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I don't know about your flag,
but I wouldn't mind seeing your

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pole. Adam curry,

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John C. Dvorak and Sunday
October 14 2012. Time if you're

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getting donation media
assassination, episode four,

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five, this is no agenda. And
watching the watchers in fact

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checking the fact checkers from
the capital of the drone Star

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State Austin Hay House in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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curry,

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from Northern Silicon Valley
where the fog is rolled in. It's

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gloomy. I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg
Levin Buzzkill.

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You sound great.

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Well, for as long as it lasts,
just don't haven't watched any

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videos. Hey,

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you gotta be using Chrome.

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Did you see the Michael Dunn
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Who was Michael Dunn Alright, if
you were if you if you're not

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listening live to the show. You
have no idea why we think this

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is so hilarious. But no, I did
not watch them. Michael, who was

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Michael Dunn.

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Not go to your Twitter feed. You
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you tweeted. Yeah. And it should
be an add random curry. Michael

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Dunn. I made this. I know you'll
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saw that. Pretty. His his image?
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It's great. Yeah. But did he put
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Well, I don't think it actually
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You never know if people
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generator.com.

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should probably take a look at
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probably not listening anyway.
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Yeah, true. So we're on the on
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works. See if we get any better.
Better vibe than than Skype. So

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this is a test. So far. So good.
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the show. That's great.

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Yeah, in 10 minutes late. So any
news this week? I think there's

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a few distractions that when we
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I have a question for you right
off the bat. This something is

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really been bugging me. And this
is this. This is a call back

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really to the to the
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presidential debate. Of course,
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debate on Thursday evening. We
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bit. But I'm seeing one thing.
And again, I know a lot of

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really smart people who are
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smart people who are who are
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diehard and the Democrat the
people I know who are Democrats,

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there's there's something that's
really been bugging me they are

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using this 15 second clip from
the presidential debates and

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I'll tell you what, what people
are saying about this now I want

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to get your take on it

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not the case. Look, I got five
boys. I'm used to people saying

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something that's not always
true, but just keep on repeating

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it and ultimately hoping I'll
believe it but that that is not

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the case. All right. I will not
reduce the taxes paid by

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so that clip people are saying
he called the president boy to

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his face okay, so saying that
this would Romney said here was

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racial was a racial attack on
the President was a racial

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attack. Why? Cuz he's like,
because it's worse the

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connection between that and
racism, because of the words.

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He's the equivalent of five
young white boy,

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I'm telling you, this is this is
a total meme. And some really,

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really soon this

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meme at all? Are

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you kidding me? No. I mean, you
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really made

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me get into Texas, but I have

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no, not at all. Not at all. This
is everywhere. In fact, I'll

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tell you what, this is the one
that pissed me off this morning.

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I will read this to you. And
then you tell me who wrote this

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blog post he called the
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From the boy thing, yes. I have
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God, listen to this hitting. So
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gonna read this. And I've seen
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the debate and then showed up
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and like, okay, now I have to
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person is not dumb. All right.
Here's the blog post. He called

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the president boy. just tuned in
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Morning News Discussion on
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seems to be whether or not VP
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Congressman Ryan in the
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But I haven't forgotten what
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Obama. He said the president is
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truth. Quote, look, I've got
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saying that's not always true,
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ultimately hoping I'll believe
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to his face with 70 million
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times. I think this is far more
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said at the 47% Dinner in May.
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saying that this this 15 second
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the case. Like I got five boys.
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something that's not always true
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and ultimately hoping I'll
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the case. All right,

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the dad is a racial slur. You
can Google this John you can

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Google and see how many people
think that this is a racial slur

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that it was a smart, a really
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tricky tricky slur. Yeah, who
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boys. Was it a boy it was boys.

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So who do you think wrote that
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Well, it would have to be some
aihole Dave Winer. Oh you're

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kidding he's got he's not dumb
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huge Obama bato

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no kidding but the people who
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programmed this is this is this
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Anyway, okay, so I'm not crazy
right? Because I you know, I

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don't I don't like either of
these douchebags. But I'm not

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crazy when I hear that I'm not
I'm not thinking. You said boys.

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He called him a boy to his face.

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Forget your reference to
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not whiner?

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No, no, exactly wrong. Get

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out creative. Douchebag

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didn't add up. Thank you. But
this is this is some form of

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mind control. And if you Google
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people tune into this and the
only thing I can say is if you

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think this when you hear that
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yourself.

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Oh, no, you're a huge racist.

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There's no no two ways about it.
Then you're thinking about the

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damage. The

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Democrats are very racist. I
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go take a look at Palo Alto
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that oh, we're all the blacks
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East Palo Alto live in by
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him getting over crossed. Don't
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stay there to track dogs across
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And the funny thing is, I think
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know that calling someone boy is
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really in effect the whole boy,
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think most modern Americans
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references way old. Yeah.

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Where's it from? From the

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40s or the 50s? Or something? I
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me nobody. You know, I think few
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to watermelon and fried chicken.
That that Richard Pryor used to

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always like to make because it
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Yeah. So I know you didn't
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and 18 million results for
Romney calling Obama boy. Yeah,

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Obama is like, Yeah, I'm telling
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Romney, of course, compared him
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also a boy reference. I'm
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Obama a boy? Romney calls Obama
Boy, oh, my goodness, people get

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a frickin grip. Anyway, so
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controlled America, ladies and
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a clip of the day if there was a
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Well, have you heard the clip?
It's just it's it's not a big

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deal. The thing is, you know, I
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this morning, and I started
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comment, like, No, this is a
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This is not my form. I should
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this. I've got to ask John if
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Oh, that's kind of criminal I
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That kind of analysis. That
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or anybody else anybody anybody
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somebody i Hey, yeah, but do you
have any kids? Yeah, I got two

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boys. Race races calling Obama
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isn't making me crazy is making
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So first of all, let me just say
John, John, in the morning to

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you my friend

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in the morning, do you Adam
curry in the morning all ships

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at sea boots on the ground subs
in the water feet in the air and

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to all our knights out there who
have continued to support the

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show in the best way possible.

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Yes, indeed. And to Martin JJ
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previous that was wrong

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with our other artists had
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I mean, it's not like

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you spent a lot of time by the
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Going over the art we do and we
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don't want to make it sound as
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even things out a little bit but
I don't care. But Adam is likes

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to see other artists get their
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discussions, Dziedzic wins again
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explain. But if anything, we
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we again, I mean, we gotta give
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just the best stuff. So keep
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check out all of the art we have

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an art clip from for the
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And I do want to say in the
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chat.net, who were always there
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narrow and to piss me off from
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challenging. So of course, I did
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debate. And I have a few
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to take, I had to take a couple
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stay awake. And then Biden, of
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whether but you know, there's
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this is why really seriously,
voting third party is the way to

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go. Yeah, because that way, you
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crap. I ran into somebody that
day said Yeah, well, you voted

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for I voted for Gary Johnson.
Oh, you're gonna waste your

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Oh, really? The old waste your
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Waste your vote? Oh, you're
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I'm gonna waste my vote. If I
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my vote. If I vote for Romney
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different? I don't care about
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Call this person out. Who was
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are not invited into the debate.
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corrupt debates that only have
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Don King, Don Lemon to the
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So you've seen Obama versus
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tonight, though, a presidential
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their minds about the issues
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I'm getting excited and like, oh
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presidential debate between two
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discussion.

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Now, John, can you can you
understand my excitement at this

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point? And I just, I'm, like,
Oh, my God, barely were

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suckered go, we're gonna cover a
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to social issues. But as third
even fourth party candidates, I

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decided to start with the
obvious question, though. Why

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are you running?

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I'm running as a mother and now
they edit to a Skype

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conversation. She's, she's on
Skype. And Gary Johnson, doctor,

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he's like, in some other room,
they have a try screen out. This

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is not a debate. And I've been
inactive and just listened to

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Jill Stein for a moment really,
people listened because she's no

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good political medicine, because
listen, we got to fix this one,

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in order to fix everything else
that ails us. But what propelled

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me into this race was when the
President put Medicare and

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Social Security on the chopping
block as the solution to the

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debt ceiling crisis a year ago.
So I'm basically in this to

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ensure that everyday people have
a voice in this election and a

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choice at the polls. That's not
bought and paid for by Wall

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Street. This is like raw, You're
so boring, Jill Stein, you have

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no platform you all you're doing
is, well, I don't like what

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they're doing. You have no
message and to ensure that we

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can put forward the solutions
American people are clamoring

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for now let's listen to Gary
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That was a little bit longer
than 30 seconds. I didn't give

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you the time. But let's do well.
Gary, we'll give him a minute or

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so to do it. But

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if you've got you're ready,
John, because, you know, I'm

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still on the fence between
Roseanne Barr and Gary Johnson.

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Yeah, but I think Gary Johnson
clinches it with with this

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performance in his CNN third
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30 seconds Gary so why do you
feel you'd be best suited to to

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run the country and why are you
running?

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Well, I wouldn't be doing this
if I didn't think I could do a

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really good job at being
president united states been an

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entrepreneur my entire life to
term governor of New Mexico I

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think very successfully at that
and the differences between

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myself and other candidates look
Let's not buy my ran let's get

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out of Afghanistan now bring the
troops home. I think that

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marriage equality is a
constitutionally guaranteed

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right let's end the drug wars.
Let's legalize marijuana now. I

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would have never signed the
National Defense Authorization

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Act, I would repeal the Patriot
Act. I think that we need to

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balance the federal budget now
or we're going to find ourselves

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in a monetary collapse and let's
abolish the IRS and eliminate

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income tax and corporate tax
will reboot the American

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economy. 10s of millions of jobs
get created in a zero corporate

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tax rate. Environment. How good
is that guy?

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Just you don't want him up there
debate and the only

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thing the only thing he didn't
say was hookers and blow for

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everybody. I mean, that's the
only thing I was missing. A

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guy's great.

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Well, so all the good it does.
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now. But good. How funny would
it be though, if you had that

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debate, if you had like Biden,
Joe Biden, or? Or was Obama and

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Obama, Obama or Romney against
Gary Johnson, it would be like

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no contest. Because he only

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didn't know he would wait, he
would wipe the room with those

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two guys. Those two guys are
stooges. They're stooges for the

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military industrial complex.
It's so apparent. Yeah, they're

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good. They didn't do anything. I
mean, Obama is just essentially,

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like somebody said to me, so
we're gonna vote for in the 2008

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election, say, I think I'm gonna
vote for McCain don't vote for

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McCain, because we vote for
McCain. These wars are going to

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drag on they're never going to
repeal the Patriot Act, the

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economy is probably going to get
worse and worse. And I said,

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Well, maybe it turns out, he was
right. Yes. for McCain. The

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economy got worse. I know. It's
an old joke.

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So the only thing? Well, there's
a couple things. Biden had a big

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fat lie. A BIG BIG LIE that I
was surprised that I have not

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heard one. He had a bunch of
bull crap in there. Well, I but

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there was like a really big one.
Which one you think well listen

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to this audio talk

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about this great recession if it
fell out of the sky, like Oh, my

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goodness, where did it come
from? It came from this man

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voting to put two wars in a
credit card to at the same time

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put a prescription drug benefit
of the credit card, a trillion

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dollar tax cut for very wealthy
I was there. I voted against

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them. I said, No, we can't
afford that.

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Now. Did I hear him just say
that he voted against the wars,

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the two wars that we put on the
credit card? Is that what I

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heard him say, John, is what he
said, Okay, let me just say,

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wait, wait, wait, if you parse
it, if you parse it carefully.

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It may be that he really said he
voted against the one thing that

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he said at the end of his little
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but he says he says I voted
against them. So that

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voted against it. They talk
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this great recession if it fell
out of the sky, like Oh, my

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goodness, where did it come
from? It came from this man

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voting to put two wars in a
credit card to at the same time

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put a prescription drug benefit
of the credit card a trillion

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dollar tax cut for very wealthy
I was there. I voted against

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them. I said that we can't
afford that. I voted

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against them. Yeah, big. Okay.
Well, just wanted to point out

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that on joint resolution 23,
September 14 2001. Joe Biden

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voted yay. And on the Iraqi
vote, Joe Biden voted Yay. So

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unless I misunderstood, which is
possible, but it sure sounded to

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me. Like he was saying, I was
there my friends.

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I was there. I voted against I
voted against it.

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Well, he voted for them. So
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it's a lie. Well, he also
apparently Rupert Murdoch took

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him to test on his Twitter feed,
which I actually now believe

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he's actually writing. Okay,
because he got nothing else to

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do. He says his bullcrap he says
Obama and Netanyahu aren't the

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best of friends is though Biden
made it chatting all the time.

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In fact, they're drinking
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They're on Facebook, the
Facebook friends chatting it up.

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They're on mumble I hear. Okay,
so So there were some really, I

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mean, I lost the kind of
interest in watching one. When

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these guys they don't even
understand the basic principles

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of what their jobs are or what
their their boss's jobs are.

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Here's the question came to Ryan
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waited for Russia to give us the
green light at the UN Russia do

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something but they're still
arming the man. Iran is flying

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flights over Iraq, and the

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opposite is being armed to help
Bashar Assad.

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And by the way, if we had the
status of forces agreement that

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the Vice President said he would
bet his vice presidency on in

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Iraq, we probably would have
been able to prevent that. But

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he failed to achieve that as
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Let me ask you the question,
what's your criteria for

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intervention? Okay, so the
question is, what is your

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criteria for an intervention in
Syria? There is only one but

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we'll listen to what Ryan says

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in Syria. Worldwide, what is in
the national interests of the

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American people?

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Wrong? I'm sorry, that is wrong.
That is only if Congress votes

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to go to war. There's no other
criteria. The people The people,

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not you douchey only the people
can do that. Now let's listen to

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a very egregious statement by
Joe Biden. What would you say to

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that American hero about this
campaign? And at the end of the

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day, are you ever embarrassed by
the tone? Vice President Biden.

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I would say to him the same
thing I say to my son who did

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serve a year in Iraq, that we
only have one truly sacred

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obligation,

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only one truly sacred obligation
as a government, as a

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government.

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That's to clip those we send
into harm's way and care for

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those who come home.

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Now. I'm sorry, that is wrong.
That should be to defend the

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Constitution. That is the only
sacred thing you have you

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douche. These, these things
really get me when I hear them

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say this. How can you how can
you do this? How can you do

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these things? This is just it's
so natural. I

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think the Constitution is being
marginalized on a daily basis,

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so we can just get rid of it.

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But I did learn something. And
I'm surprised that well, maybe,

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I mean, I learned what the
fighting season is all about.

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And the fighting seas Yes.

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illustrate the issue here.
Because I think this can be a

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little confusing. We've all met
with General Allen and general

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scrapper karate in Afghanistan
to talk about fighting seasons,

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here's the way it works.

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We're gonna get an explanation.
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just filling with snow. The
Taliban and the terrorists in

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the economy and the kid Assura
come over from Pakistan to fight

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our men and women. When it fills
in with snow, they can't do it.

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That's what we call fighting
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Fighting gets really high. In
the winter, it goes down. And so

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when Admiral Mullen and General
Petraeus came to Congress and

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said, if you pull these people
out before the fighting season

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is end, it puts people more like
that

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grammar. If you pull these
people out before the fighting

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season is end, you can say over
or has ended, but fighting

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season is end is something's
wrong with your programming

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search risk.

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That's the problem. Yes, we drew
22,000 troops down last month.

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But the remaining troops that
are there who still have the

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same mission to prosecute
counterinsurgency are doing it

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with fewer people. That makes
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now here's where it got really
interesting. Not a mission to

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prosecute. Oh, yeah. The wording
is beautiful, is beautiful. It's

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got a weird way of saying
things. Well, some of us just

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grammatically incorrect. But now
they get into a little tit for

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tat, which had me thinking about
something.

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We're sending fewer people out
in all these hotspots to do the

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same job they were supposed to
do a month ago because we took

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22,000 people out,

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turned them over to the Afghan
troops we trained. No one got

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pulled out that didn't get
filled in by train Afghan

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personnel. And he's confused.
He's He's conflating two issues.

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The fighting season that
Petraeus was talking about,

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is that correct? conflating as
it Yeah. Is it like isn't a

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configuration or conflating? I
never heard the word conflate.

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I've used it right. Let's look
it up. Yes, this

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is a very good idea. What does
conflate mean? conflates,

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definition conflate to combine?
No, that's actually a very good,

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very good use of the word. to
conflate to combine them Okay,

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now we'll take Yeah, they did.
Well, yes.

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We will take that as a correct
answer.

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Former and Admiral Mullen was
the fighting season this spring.

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When he was talking about we did
not we did not pull them out.

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The calendar works the same
every year. It does work

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the same every year. Summer
fall.

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It's warm or it's not so I when
I heard that. I thought we just

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spring summer have a

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long way to go for a joke.

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Wow. Yeah.

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So that was just the worst
debate ever. It was it was

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really Oh, Biden's yucking it up
and I'm surprised you know, all

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of all Ryan had to do was stop
and look at him while he was

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mugging and say to him.

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What are you doing? What do you
what do you do? What's wrong

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with your face?

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I mean, why didn't he call him
out and just stop and say

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something like, are you done
yet? I mean, he could have

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called him out as a little kid.
Yeah, by just stopping and

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looking at him because he just
had to see him because their way

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their table was set up. You had
to see him rolling his eyes and

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given that big dumb smile and
laughing Oh, yeah. All the rest

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of it, but he didn't do
anything. He's just such a

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weenie. Yeah.

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Well, and it's interesting. If
it was, I think crowd crowd

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Heimer Krauthammer. He said
this, you wouldn't hear you

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would interpret this debate one
way if you only read the

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transcript, you would interpret
it another way. If you if you if

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you heard on on radio, because
of course you wouldn't see Joe

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Biden making all the grimacing
faces and laughing and yucking

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it up. And on television Of
course, it was very, I thought

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it I found it to be very
uncomfortable. You know, it's

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one thing if you think
somebody's lying, it's another

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thing to just, you know, keep
smiling about it is

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creepy. just creepy. No, it's
totally creepy. Guy's creepy.

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00:25:38,490 --> 00:25:43,950
But lot Lawrence O'Donnell. He's
on the lean forward. Obama

450
00:25:43,950 --> 00:25:46,140
channel. Yeah, MSN do.

451
00:25:47,250 --> 00:25:49,380
Ms. Ms. DNC,

452
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:56,220
Ms. MSN, MSNBC, Obama channel.
He has he has an idea. He knows

453
00:25:56,220 --> 00:25:59,220
how to fix all of this. He
thinks we should change the

454
00:25:59,220 --> 00:26:00,360
rules of the debate.

455
00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:04,860
The debates now put candidates
through ridiculous memorization

456
00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:07,860
tests, tests that have nothing
to do with the job of being

457
00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:08,310
President.

458
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,320
What a memorization test really,
really is. Maybe your guy is on

459
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,550
a memorization trip,

460
00:26:14,610 --> 00:26:19,440
there will always be staff
present to remind the President

461
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,520
or brief the President on
whatever he or she needs to

462
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,600
remember or know more to change
his batteries, which is why to

463
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,240
return to the protocol of
Senators debating in the Senate

464
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,280
chamber, each candidate should
be allowed at least one staff

465
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,880
member to sit beside the
candidate throughout the debate.

466
00:26:39,870 --> 00:26:45,060
Oh, crazy. But your lawyer
whispered, is not even slightly

467
00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:48,870
distracting to Senate debates to
have a silent staff member

468
00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:53,670
sitting beside the senator, as
you see, every day on C span.

469
00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:56,340
Oh, handing the senator a
document that will support what

470
00:26:56,340 --> 00:26:59,250
the Senator is about to say I
used to be one of those people

471
00:26:59,250 --> 00:27:01,980
in the staff chair on the Senate
floor or in hearings. And

472
00:27:02,010 --> 00:27:05,130
this is this is nuts. And I'm
telling you that this is they're

473
00:27:05,130 --> 00:27:08,880
really considering making this
change. Because Oh, you know,

474
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,680
you can't have somebody
remember, hey, why don't you

475
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,440
just give the guy his
teleprompter? Just put

476
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,230
teleprompter? That'd be great.
Who needs it?

477
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,440
Wait a minute. Did you
suggesting that What did

478
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,320
everyone do what Bush did in the
last debate and have that thing

479
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,870
and his transmitter the
transmitter exactly why he goes

480
00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:25,590
in first out

481
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:28,620
what he wants. And Obama, you
said that he might have had one

482
00:27:28,620 --> 00:27:31,260
in his lat in the last debate he
wants, he wants to wish he would

483
00:27:31,260 --> 00:27:33,270
have made sense. That's why I
had to keep looking down so I

484
00:27:33,270 --> 00:27:35,130
could listen to the guy. Like
Hold

485
00:27:35,130 --> 00:27:38,490
on a sec. I can't I can't hear
you. He Larry here suggests even

486
00:27:38,490 --> 00:27:38,790
more

487
00:27:38,820 --> 00:27:41,310
friends of mine, who were
watching on C span didn't even

488
00:27:41,310 --> 00:27:45,960
notice me. That's how invisible
staff can be in government, but

489
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,520
they are absolutely essential in
government. The President is

490
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,230
never alone with a decision. And
you would never want him to be.

491
00:27:55,890 --> 00:27:56,460
What is

492
00:27:56,460 --> 00:28:00,690
this? This guy's on drugs. And
he's not sharing, and he's not

493
00:28:00,690 --> 00:28:09,090
sharing his drugs. It's just
nuts. Meanwhile, of course, Joe

494
00:28:09,090 --> 00:28:13,290
Biden really made a big mistake.
And yet, and his biggest mistake

495
00:28:13,290 --> 00:28:16,050
was throwing it Hillary Clinton
under the bus.

496
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,740
You may or may.

497
00:28:20,850 --> 00:28:24,690
I'm subscribing to the notion I
think you might be too which is

498
00:28:24,690 --> 00:28:32,430
that Hillary is trying to derail
the the Obama reelection. So she

499
00:28:32,430 --> 00:28:38,700
has a better shot at 2016. And
so I think they're becoming

500
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:39,780
aware of this.

501
00:28:40,139 --> 00:28:46,559
And they're fighting back. Yeah.
So this is from the the press,

502
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:49,529
of course, is completely
complicit in this and they know

503
00:28:49,529 --> 00:28:54,179
their role. This was spokes
whole Carney trying to defend

504
00:28:54,989 --> 00:29:01,079
his man versus the press saying,
Well, you know, how could How

505
00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:05,909
could Biden say that they didn't
know, more security had been

506
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:10,439
requested, even though he knew
that security had been

507
00:29:10,439 --> 00:29:13,979
requested, when he did the
debate, because that had already

508
00:29:13,979 --> 00:29:18,329
been out in testimony in that
four hour testimony, but he's

509
00:29:18,329 --> 00:29:21,059
still saying that we didn't know
we didn't know and Kearney is

510
00:29:21,059 --> 00:29:23,339
basically saying it's Clinton's
job.

511
00:29:24,270 --> 00:29:26,970
Wanted to ask you about Libya
and the Vice President's

512
00:29:27,090 --> 00:29:30,210
response yesterday in the
debate, Martha Raddatz mentioned

513
00:29:30,210 --> 00:29:33,480
to him the US officials and
Lydia had asked for more

514
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,720
security there and the Vice
President replied, Well, we

515
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,480
weren't told they wanted more
security there. We did not know

516
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,830
they wanted more security again.
That That wasn't the testimony

517
00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:46,650
at the oversight hearing. On
Wednesday, though, Charlene Lam

518
00:29:46,650 --> 00:29:50,070
conceded that she had refused
requests for more security. So

519
00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:53,280
I'm wondering, what what did the
vice president mean that what

520
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,890
did he mean by Wait? Did he mean
the administration did He mean

521
00:29:55,890 --> 00:29:57,120
the White House they

522
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,510
are speaking directly for
himself and for the President he

523
00:30:00,510 --> 00:30:03,000
meant the White House now. Okay.
Just want to make sure we

524
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,440
understand that. He was just I
don't hear anything. We don't

525
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,840
know anything. We just sit up
here in a little white house.

526
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,670
Yeah, we didn't know yet those

527
00:30:11,670 --> 00:30:13,740
guys talking in our ear, but I
guess they don't talk loud

528
00:30:13,740 --> 00:30:14,310
enough now.

529
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:17,640
That's about all I had on the
debate.

530
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,340
I think that's enough. Yeah.
Yeah, I

531
00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:20,970
would agree.

532
00:30:23,130 --> 00:30:25,170
It means nothing. I guess
there's the next debate. What is

533
00:30:25,170 --> 00:30:25,830
Tuesday?

534
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:29,580
By Tuesday is the next debate.
Yep. It'll be

535
00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:31,740
interesting to see how Obama
does on this one.

536
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,200
We want to make predictions.

537
00:30:35,850 --> 00:30:38,550
Well, I think we predicted
pretty well that Oh, Biden was

538
00:30:38,550 --> 00:30:42,420
gonna bring up the 47%. And he
did. Yeah. And you made some

539
00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:45,150
prediction that somebody on
Twitter went crazy about saying

540
00:30:45,150 --> 00:30:49,230
you're unbelievably visionary
first coming up with something.

541
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,060
I am, I am visionary. I am
visionary, I tell you I see into

542
00:30:54,060 --> 00:31:01,920
the future. Well, something
happened. And I'm not quite sure

543
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,550
if that because here's what I
think is going on. We have the

544
00:31:05,580 --> 00:31:09,390
Benghazi situation, of course,
Benghazi gate, as we're calling

545
00:31:09,390 --> 00:31:13,050
it out Benghazi gate. That is
the mean, we want to put out

546
00:31:13,050 --> 00:31:15,960
there. Because this, of course,
would be great to have this

547
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,160
conversation during the next
debate. So you can see the

548
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,900
entire move the push, like, oh,
let's they were lying, they were

549
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:27,660
covering up, you know, this is
this is this has got to come out

550
00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:33,270
to the forefront of the of the
debate on Tuesday. And the that

551
00:31:33,270 --> 00:31:36,840
would be the Republican side,
the Democratic side, is trying

552
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,980
to thwart that. And somehow
someone gave the wrong message

553
00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:46,230
to Al's Awapuhi now he's the
he's you know, he's now the new

554
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:49,320
number one in in Al Qaeda, or is
he still number two?

555
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:54,270
I don't really keep a diary. I
don't subscribe to ring magazine

556
00:31:54,270 --> 00:31:57,060
anymore. So I don't know where
he sits in the World

557
00:31:57,060 --> 00:31:59,820
Championship does scale there.
But he

558
00:31:59,820 --> 00:32:01,470
definitely has gotten the wrong
memo.

559
00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:03,990
Tonight. We're hearing from
outside as leader for the first

560
00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:08,100
time since September 11. In an
audio posted to a website, I'm

561
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:12,420
in Oslo, aakhri. urges Muslims
to wage holy war against the US

562
00:32:12,420 --> 00:32:13,200
and Israel

563
00:32:13,410 --> 00:32:17,130
over that, you know, no, never
heard of such a thing. Don't

564
00:32:17,130 --> 00:32:18,060
step on it.

565
00:32:19,230 --> 00:32:23,910
Wage holy war against the US and
Israel over that YouTube video

566
00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:25,410
that mocked the Prophet
Muhammad.

567
00:32:26,730 --> 00:32:34,200
What? What? He got the wrong
script. An idiot.

568
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,950
So you know, now now we know the
guys on someone's payroll, but

569
00:32:37,950 --> 00:32:39,900
someone's not communicating
properly.

570
00:32:39,930 --> 00:32:42,690
Yeah, they're not getting his
memos around fast enough.

571
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,430
How dumb is that? No, dude.
ixnay on the ad obey. What do

572
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:51,750
you say? And even the fact that
this report says, on a site,

573
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:58,710
somewhere, nondescript, just on
a site, he said, Yeah, and they

574
00:32:58,710 --> 00:33:01,380
never have the, the actual
video, they just have some B

575
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:04,650
roll and just tell you what they
think the guy said, according to

576
00:33:04,650 --> 00:33:09,510
some kind of intelligence. But
haven't you know, this is this

577
00:33:09,510 --> 00:33:11,880
is wrong. This is really stupid.

578
00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:15,059
So the video thing is on the on
the back burner. So what do you

579
00:33:15,059 --> 00:33:17,699
think? I think the what's going
to happen is I think the

580
00:33:17,699 --> 00:33:22,469
Democrats are or maybe elderlaw.
I don't think Hillary thinks

581
00:33:22,469 --> 00:33:24,389
it's such a great idea, because
she's going to take a lot of

582
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:29,549
heat for this, but which isn't
good. But for her. I think that

583
00:33:29,579 --> 00:33:34,169
anything to get the conversation
off the economy. Oh, yeah. With

584
00:33:34,469 --> 00:33:35,729
benefits to Democrats.

585
00:33:35,820 --> 00:33:43,200
Big deal. Well. Yeah, but the
Benghazi thing is is tough

586
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:43,680
because

587
00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:49,230
I don't think the public cares
at all. Oh, I'm

588
00:33:49,230 --> 00:33:52,470
not gonna argue whether the
public cares, but I think the

589
00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:55,830
campaign's believe it matters.
Yeah, I

590
00:33:55,830 --> 00:33:57,480
think they do. But I think the
wrong

591
00:34:00,330 --> 00:34:01,680
what does the public care about?

592
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,650
They care about getting gig, you
know, having a job again,

593
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,900
getting more money than they
made last year. I mean, that's

594
00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:09,270
an all the public cares about
it, right. And they're not

595
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:11,370
making more money than they made
last year, the year before the

596
00:34:11,370 --> 00:34:13,740
year before, and they want to be
able to sell and buy houses.

597
00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:16,260
They can't do that the banks
aren't lending money. I mean,

598
00:34:16,260 --> 00:34:18,570
that those are the issues that
people care about. And they

599
00:34:18,570 --> 00:34:22,230
don't care about Benghazi they
have, you know, you could go out

600
00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:24,630
in the street right now and then
interview 100 people, and I

601
00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:29,040
would say 99 of them would not
even know where Benghazi is. Are

602
00:34:29,310 --> 00:34:30,210
you ever heard of it?

603
00:34:31,650 --> 00:34:33,870
Yeah, you're probably right.

604
00:34:33,989 --> 00:34:36,689
And the one guy would probably
be wrong, that you had something

605
00:34:36,689 --> 00:34:37,139
to say

606
00:34:37,170 --> 00:34:40,650
so what So are you saying that
both candidates actually want to

607
00:34:40,650 --> 00:34:44,760
focus on on things other than
the economy or No, no,

608
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,760
they were put though the
Republicans are being suckered

609
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,670
left and right. And it was
focusing on the wrong and the

610
00:34:50,670 --> 00:34:54,060
Democrats just loved it. The
Democrats love anything, but

611
00:34:54,060 --> 00:34:58,260
talking about the economy,
right. Good point. Good point.

612
00:34:58,980 --> 00:35:01,800
So there'll be contrived At the
same mistakes were made,

613
00:35:02,130 --> 00:35:05,850
mistakes were made and won't
happen again. And we got to get

614
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,870
good at moving our troops out of
Afghanistan and 2014 and all

615
00:35:09,870 --> 00:35:12,300
foreign policy in the next
debate by the way is about

616
00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:15,120
foreign policy which means it's
going to be really bad right?

617
00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:18,690
It's going to be just don't be
the first debate was about

618
00:35:18,690 --> 00:35:22,140
domestic policy and I what
Jeremy remember the first debate

619
00:35:22,350 --> 00:35:24,720
was, what was important that I
don't I

620
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,840
don't remember anything. I don't
remember every single thing they

621
00:35:27,870 --> 00:35:29,880
talked about. We I don't
remember

622
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,510
anything either.

623
00:35:30,540 --> 00:35:32,880
We didn't have a huge
distraction. They floated a

624
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,860
little trial balloon and tried
to do this again,

625
00:35:35,130 --> 00:35:38,160
as well. for staying with us for
the next hour. We do have to

626
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:38,820
start tonight

627
00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:41,880
notices the MSNBC oh wow Obama
channel again

628
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:44,730
with some breaking news. We have
some more details for you about

629
00:35:44,730 --> 00:35:46,920
the breaking news that is just
in tonight. Breaking news,

630
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,050
breaking news. More details on
the breaking news is breaking

631
00:35:49,050 --> 00:35:52,380
news, John. Oh, standby. I gotta
tell you it's breaking news

632
00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:53,610
broke a mad cow. What is it

633
00:35:53,850 --> 00:35:58,860
about this shot this gunshot
fired at the Obama campaign's

634
00:35:58,860 --> 00:36:02,310
headquarters in Denver, Colorado
late today. These are pictures

635
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:05,400
that we've got of the shattered
window front of the Obama

636
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,940
campaign office, according to
the reports that we have so far.

637
00:36:09,180 --> 00:36:13,320
There were people inside the
campaign office at the time of

638
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,930
this incident, which is in part
what makes this a story of

639
00:36:15,930 --> 00:36:18,930
national significance. Really,
what

640
00:36:19,620 --> 00:36:23,490
really, that was national
significance because

641
00:36:23,490 --> 00:36:27,660
someone was around a bullet.
Hey, come to Oakland lady.

642
00:36:30,180 --> 00:36:31,860
national significance.

643
00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:36,300
Come to Oakland, ladies and
gentlemen. Were the occupied

644
00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:40,410
people rammed the Obama campaign
headquarters within they busted

645
00:36:40,410 --> 00:36:43,350
into place and tore it up but
that barely didn't cover that.

646
00:36:43,350 --> 00:36:44,280
Did they on MSN

647
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,740
it was not of national
significance.

648
00:36:47,129 --> 00:36:51,269
It seems like it was to me but
no, no, I rent a stray bullet. I

649
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:54,540
think it was white supremacist.

650
00:36:55,169 --> 00:36:57,449
Well, I was I think the story
would have been better if

651
00:36:57,449 --> 00:36:59,039
somebody put a swastika on

652
00:37:00,570 --> 00:37:03,570
no swastikas are not for no we
don't many Obama

653
00:37:03,570 --> 00:37:05,880
campaign should you nobody was
hurt this because everyone was

654
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,260
told the bullets come in. No,
no. You

655
00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:10,020
see the bullet went from the
inside out.

656
00:37:11,370 --> 00:37:13,800
Good. Yeah. That's the way I see

657
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,500
it. And they had the kind of I
didn't didn't clip it, but they

658
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:19,890
had the cops on. Normally in
this type of story. The cop was

659
00:37:19,890 --> 00:37:23,790
like, you know, it was a nine
millimeter. It was an AK 47 and

660
00:37:23,790 --> 00:37:28,650
was you know, you know, getaway
car, nothing of that. Just no

661
00:37:28,650 --> 00:37:33,030
one got hit. That's it. That's
all the cops are saying no

662
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:35,670
details. And of course, the
story went nowhere. It was a

663
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:37,650
trial balloon. They've done
they've done this before. We've

664
00:37:37,650 --> 00:37:40,800
seen this trying to distract.
That's just for the thing I'm

665
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,130
still waiting for Will there be
another just because there's so

666
00:37:44,190 --> 00:37:47,940
there's such megalomaniacs there
in the White House? That they

667
00:37:47,940 --> 00:37:51,330
probably want to distract from
the economy and from Benghazi.

668
00:37:51,390 --> 00:37:54,480
So they'll try and come up with
something else to change the

669
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,740
story. And I think

670
00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:58,470
they're gonna I don't think they
I think they got a winner with

671
00:37:58,470 --> 00:38:02,250
this Benghazi thing. Okay,
because it's the lab let us suck

672
00:38:02,250 --> 00:38:05,970
up all the all the cycles and
screw it. Who cares?

673
00:38:06,030 --> 00:38:10,170
Interesting, which, which could
also make us think that it was

674
00:38:10,590 --> 00:38:12,900
it's always been in their
interest from the get go to have

675
00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:14,280
this Benghazi thing happen?

676
00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:20,010
Or maybe they had to get rid of
that guy. I mean, like Serpico

677
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:23,610
explain the Serpico

678
00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:27,150
surfer go the movie. Yeah,
Serpico was a very famous police

679
00:38:27,150 --> 00:38:30,930
officer who was I guess in New
York, New York City, New Jersey,

680
00:38:30,930 --> 00:38:33,630
I think was in New York. No, no,
he was in New Jersey. And it was

681
00:38:33,630 --> 00:38:38,220
Jersey cop. And he was he was
like a straight he was not

682
00:38:38,220 --> 00:38:41,880
corrupt. Yeah. And so he
wouldn't take bribes he wouldn't

683
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,130
do all this stuff but it but
there was a known fact that a

684
00:38:44,130 --> 00:38:46,410
lot of drug dealing. All this
stuff was going on. It was under

685
00:38:46,410 --> 00:38:49,080
right under the police watch
because they were just taking

686
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,590
money, but he wouldn't do it.
And so one day was sent off to

687
00:38:52,590 --> 00:38:55,080
some bus somewhere where he's
supposed to have all this backup

688
00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:00,660
and nobody showed up. As they
Hey, you're on your own. Yes. So

689
00:39:01,050 --> 00:39:04,140
they almost killed him to be
where he lives not

690
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,870
your Frank Serpico lives now.

691
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,220
Where Amsterdam Oh, Jesse.
Really? Yeah, he's

692
00:39:11,250 --> 00:39:14,610
he's laying low in Amsterdam
people still want to kill him.

693
00:39:16,140 --> 00:39:20,040
Well, yeah, it wouldn't surprise
me so anyway, so this guy may

694
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,020
have been in that boat and even
though I still think it was a

695
00:39:22,020 --> 00:39:27,330
bunch of kidnapping but it was
reporting we just know that's

696
00:39:27,330 --> 00:39:31,050
wrong and now so we have to just
assume that you know any of

697
00:39:31,050 --> 00:39:34,620
these theories that that are
possibilities are probably one

698
00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:38,040
of them is more likely to be
correct but obviously they

699
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,440
didn't send them didn't send any
extra help there and this whole

700
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,500
thing was in the dead of night I
mean, no, it's fishy from the

701
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:46,470
get go so I but I think it's a
great distraction for them

702
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,900
because it takes the public does
not care

703
00:39:49,230 --> 00:39:52,140
at all. We just care about
eating

704
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,180
and Honey BooBoo.

705
00:39:57,060 --> 00:40:01,230
That's a word that that has been
banned from this for The clips

706
00:40:01,230 --> 00:40:05,370
are okay you can say the name on
a boo boo. I don't know if the

707
00:40:05,370 --> 00:40:09,480
voice is kicking everyone's ass
so Honey BooBoo is just as

708
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:13,080
Honey BooBoo is a reality show.
They're on cable. Yeah, so the

709
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,640
voice isn't really competing
with

710
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:17,760
Duck Dynasty is kicking Honey
Boo Boos ass.

711
00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:20,310
Oh, Duck Dynasty is a winner.

712
00:40:20,730 --> 00:40:21,270
Yeah

713
00:40:22,830 --> 00:40:26,220
Yeah Did you see that guy there?
No, no,

714
00:40:26,460 --> 00:40:28,620
no I don't watch it.

715
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,440
Oh no there's a clip they had
the Duck Dynasty. I think it was

716
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,670
on the view or something.

717
00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:34,110
Oh no, I got other things.

718
00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:38,910
We had this clip. I saw it. I
got the guy on the viewer. He's

719
00:40:38,910 --> 00:40:44,190
a big he's Oh, somebody asked
somebody. Somebody asked him

720
00:40:44,190 --> 00:40:48,660
what is it that scares you? And
the guy goes chlamydia

721
00:40:55,980 --> 00:40:57,090
so the guy's a comedian.

722
00:40:59,850 --> 00:41:03,090
Let's thank our producers before
we go any further we've been

723
00:41:03,090 --> 00:41:07,230
yapping way too long. Boy do we
have any producers

724
00:41:07,830 --> 00:41:10,770
we bet well we luckily we got
identity tonight which is a big

725
00:41:10,770 --> 00:41:16,170
deal. And but generally
speaking, I would say this this

726
00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:20,310
particular show is quite light.
Right and which is unfortunate.

727
00:41:20,430 --> 00:41:26,520
But there you go. So what
happens meanwhile? I'm

728
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:31,890
downloading it Oh, really? Well,
I just this is I'm using I'm

729
00:41:31,890 --> 00:41:37,410
using Chrome and normally when I
was using it we always used to

730
00:41:37,410 --> 00:41:40,050
automatically download but this
No I gotta click on something

731
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,960
alright, so we have one
executive producer our instant

732
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,780
night and one Associate
Executive Producer and that's it

733
00:41:46,350 --> 00:41:50,220
so our instant night is a sir
will will be oh he's already a

734
00:41:50,220 --> 00:41:50,730
Sir

735
00:41:52,890 --> 00:41:55,890
Okay, well it's Yeah. Ryan he's
doubling down then.

736
00:41:56,370 --> 00:42:01,860
Brian bemrose Orion bemrose in
Everett Washington 2000 Yeah the

737
00:42:01,860 --> 00:42:03,930
Texas supposed to go with my
donation every October my

738
00:42:03,930 --> 00:42:06,330
company has a giving campaign
where they badger their

739
00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:08,550
employees and to donate to a
charity by the way I worked for

740
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:14,130
union oil and they did that to
us it was like it was the

741
00:42:14,130 --> 00:42:19,410
ineffective mentioned who it
was. Oh, one second, okay. This

742
00:42:19,410 --> 00:42:22,500
is I can't stomach the thought
of my hard tax dollars going to

743
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:27,540
the United Way or the Clinton
Foundation. I'm instead instead

744
00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:30,090
sending it to no agenda though.
I don't expect a matching

745
00:42:30,090 --> 00:42:33,540
contribution from the company.
The only thing I ask in return

746
00:42:33,540 --> 00:42:37,500
is some karma for Dame Lisa she
continues her battle with Ms.

747
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,170
With all the drugs that doctors
have prescribed this place is

748
00:42:40,170 --> 00:42:42,150
starting to feel like a Pfizer
commercial

749
00:42:42,180 --> 00:42:46,380
All right, well, we definitely
will hand out some fdms Karma

750
00:42:46,410 --> 00:42:48,720
you've got karma Thank you very

751
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:52,770
much for your not bad when I was
working at a union union oil as

752
00:42:52,770 --> 00:42:57,210
a youngster they had United Way
was united way which is exactly

753
00:42:57,210 --> 00:43:01,800
what he says. They had their
yearly fundraising for god knows

754
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,940
what we never knew. And it was
like you donated or you know,

755
00:43:06,210 --> 00:43:09,120
because it was every apparently
every manager in my I guess my

756
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,960
supervisor had to make sure that
they get x numbers of dollars or

757
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,440
else

758
00:43:14,610 --> 00:43:16,410
Or else Or else what Oh, is I

759
00:43:16,410 --> 00:43:18,690
don't know it was his bonus or
he wouldn't get a raise or they

760
00:43:18,690 --> 00:43:20,940
wouldn't talk to him again. Or
they wouldn't be the had to sit

761
00:43:20,940 --> 00:43:21,450
in the corner is

762
00:43:21,450 --> 00:43:25,080
this like? Let me ask you this.
This is like a union thing.

763
00:43:26,580 --> 00:43:30,000
Is that when we're non union, it
was a non union department.

764
00:43:30,029 --> 00:43:34,559
Okay. All right. Well, thank you
very much, sir Ryan. That is so

765
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:37,619
incredibly nice of you. And
power to Dame Lisa there. Thank

766
00:43:37,619 --> 00:43:40,019
you for doubling down on the
best podcast in the universe. It

767
00:43:40,019 --> 00:43:42,599
really did help particularly
today, we knew it was going to

768
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:44,969
be light. So we're happy that
you checked in. Thank you so

769
00:43:44,969 --> 00:43:46,019
much for supporting the show.

770
00:43:47,490 --> 00:43:50,220
Uh, Thomas Wyler is our
Associate Executive Producer and

771
00:43:50,220 --> 00:43:54,000
now becomes a night with
foreigners $240.79 And he's an

772
00:43:54,660 --> 00:43:58,110
older Dreisbach which I believe
is in which lamination

773
00:43:58,110 --> 00:43:58,980
Deutschland? Yeah.

774
00:44:01,170 --> 00:44:05,970
I reached him out of 1011 12 I
can't wait to get my precious

775
00:44:05,970 --> 00:44:09,900
ring. I love and enjoy your
podcast since day one is truly

776
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:12,510
the best podcast in the universe
and a big part of the daily

777
00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:16,920
commute the visa karma I asked
for and for 27 worked very well

778
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,100
I have a five and a half weeks
in the USA this this summer.

779
00:44:20,250 --> 00:44:23,940
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780
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781
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783
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:37,950
Since a year ago, I started
listening to the Joe Rogan shows

784
00:44:37,950 --> 00:44:41,640
Well, I think Adam you should
get in that show on that show as

785
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,890
a guest he's G tries. If you
could send my karma hot milk

786
00:44:46,890 --> 00:44:53,160
little girl stays Zito Chavo
jingle. I love you guys. Thomas

787
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,750
Wilder aka wireless owl.
Poisonous was in Switzerland,

788
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:58,290
Switzerland.

789
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,490
So let me just see how As you
want Dreisbach Swiss, he wants

790
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,930
one hot meal for little girls.
So that's the case Shut up,

791
00:45:06,930 --> 00:45:10,020
slay. Okay, let me see if I can
do this. Sure we can one way or

792
00:45:10,020 --> 00:45:16,500
the other. That's one mother,
I'd like to shut up, please.

793
00:45:18,690 --> 00:45:23,100
You've got karma. Nailed it.

794
00:45:23,669 --> 00:45:28,409
That was good. Anyway, that
concludes our producer segment,

795
00:45:28,409 --> 00:45:34,469
unfortunately for this show for
five, two, and we will probably

796
00:45:34,469 --> 00:45:37,829
hopefully pick up a little bit
of steam. Next show as we

797
00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:44,069
approach the fifth anniversary,
which is on October 26. Big this

798
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:47,549
month, a big, big deal. Five
years of doing this

799
00:45:47,579 --> 00:45:51,839
deconstruction, five years deal,
nobody can can come close to

800
00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:55,739
what we do. And we never had a
fight. And we still we've had a

801
00:45:55,739 --> 00:46:01,469
couple of fights. And we still
have people that say, I know

802
00:46:01,469 --> 00:46:06,029
these guys are crazy. Yeah,
crazy. And all we do is read the

803
00:46:06,029 --> 00:46:09,749
bills. And we tell what's in the
bill that somebody else is

804
00:46:09,749 --> 00:46:11,789
falling all over themselves
about and we say look, here's

805
00:46:11,789 --> 00:46:14,459
what it's really about. Now,
how's that crazy? All you do is

806
00:46:14,789 --> 00:46:17,489
a little home the homework a
which is a term I don't likes.

807
00:46:17,489 --> 00:46:17,849
Yeah.

808
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,760
Some people call it to what's
the word Joe? Joe? Oh,

809
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:24,750
journalism, that's it.

810
00:46:25,710 --> 00:46:28,740
Actually looking at things, you
know, looking at indictments,

811
00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:32,340
reading through them, watching C
span seeing what people actually

812
00:46:32,340 --> 00:46:35,730
say, recording what they say.
And then and then calling them

813
00:46:35,730 --> 00:46:38,490
on it. Finding that you know,
Joe Biden says he didn't vote

814
00:46:38,490 --> 00:46:41,880
for the two wars on a credit
card. We did.

815
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,080
He did. Yeah. I got some of that
stuff. I've done some government

816
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,760
legislation analysis today.
Yeah, well, yeah, I got a doozy

817
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:51,180
for you

818
00:46:51,210 --> 00:46:53,400
recently thing I came up with I
was hoping to find some good

819
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,890
stuff with those Russians down
in Houston there that were

820
00:46:55,890 --> 00:46:56,340
indicted.

821
00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:59,760
Let me talk Hold on a second.
First, the reminder for

822
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,660
everyone. We have the 5555
donation level for our fifth

823
00:47:03,660 --> 00:47:06,510
anniversary October 26. So
please go to

824
00:47:06,510 --> 00:47:09,510
vorak.org/n

825
00:47:09,570 --> 00:47:12,180
NF there's nothing for you to
donate so far. It's okay because

826
00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:14,760
you can always go out and
propagate our formula. Our

827
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,200
formula is this. We go out we
hit people in the mouth

828
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:42,240
I am I am receiving information
on on this. Now who do we know

829
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:47,700
in the Dallas area who's
Russian? Who sir Jean Neff

830
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:48,420
Tullio F.

831
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:51,000
Oh, that he didn't know he was
in Dallas.

832
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:59,460
And he dude, he I don't know
which agency he works for. But

833
00:47:59,490 --> 00:48:02,520
he was responsible for this
takedown one way or the other. I

834
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:07,020
know he was involved in it. The
he's, this is what he does. And

835
00:48:07,020 --> 00:48:09,840
when you if you ever meet the
guy, I hope you do. You'll be

836
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,510
like, okay, no doubt.

837
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:15,270
Yeah, there's one it was guys
your

838
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:18,540
limit? Let me let me give you a
call. I get it. Now. He lives

839
00:48:18,540 --> 00:48:24,390
alone with his pet Python. Are
you getting? Are you getting the

840
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:25,230
picture of Sir? I'm

841
00:48:25,230 --> 00:48:29,100
getting there. Okay. Yes. Is he
tall? Short, then? You don't

842
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:29,280
want

843
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,860
to don't want to bump into him
in a dark alley. Let's put it

844
00:48:31,860 --> 00:48:35,820
that way. He's a sweetheart
though. And don't get me wrong

845
00:48:35,850 --> 00:48:39,840
total sweetheart. Just Just
don't be Russian on the wrong

846
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,790
side of him. That would be kind
of bad.

847
00:48:45,210 --> 00:48:52,590
So I ran into a legal blog,
export, export bull X export law

848
00:48:52,590 --> 00:48:55,770
blog or something like that. The
guy's like, he says, this is a

849
00:48:55,770 --> 00:48:59,940
bunch of bullcrap this
indictment because they're

850
00:48:59,940 --> 00:49:03,060
mostly nailing is yes. Or not
registering as foreign agents,

851
00:49:03,090 --> 00:49:03,330
which

852
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,950
all spies have to do.

853
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,300
Yeah, but no,

854
00:49:06,570 --> 00:49:09,690
right. Yeah, no, that's true.
You know, in every country.

855
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:13,530
Now you look No. Now this guy
explains them. I didn't.

856
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,370
Okay. Let me just make sure that
we have an understanding here

857
00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:23,430
that I have no knowledge of
this. That each country has

858
00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:26,190
agents and they have to register
and of course they have

859
00:49:26,220 --> 00:49:29,520
unregistered agents. But the
idea is all your agents are

860
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,000
supposed to be registered. That
is the general Geneva Convention

861
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,750
law. No. Okay. All right. I
don't know what I'm talking

862
00:49:36,750 --> 00:49:38,760
about. I have no family history.

863
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:43,440
Yeah, the way this if you're
looking at I'd have to go find

864
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:49,140
that post. But the reason for
registering is not because this

865
00:49:49,140 --> 00:49:50,310
is not you're wrong.

866
00:49:50,399 --> 00:49:53,579
Okay. I'm wrong. All right, I'm
wrong. The whole

867
00:49:53,610 --> 00:49:56,880
thing was in the 30s. When they
when they came up with this

868
00:49:56,910 --> 00:50:00,300
registering as a foreign agent
that was propaganda. saw to

869
00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:04,410
Washington DC. It wasn't for
export guys. Because if you're

870
00:50:04,410 --> 00:50:07,410
exporting to a foreign country,
which everybody does Caterpillar

871
00:50:07,410 --> 00:50:11,040
they the the way this indictment
went down as it's the same as

872
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,560
if, okay if he has to be if they
have to register as foreign

873
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,890
agents for exporting processor
to I didn't even by the way

874
00:50:16,890 --> 00:50:19,800
there was no processor chips
involved it was it was memory

875
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:25,110
chips and D to A converters.
That's all they would do. And by

876
00:50:25,110 --> 00:50:30,450
the way to the tune of $50
million since 2008. Why now? Was

877
00:50:30,450 --> 00:50:37,650
this bus taking place? Now I
looked up all the parts to see

878
00:50:37,650 --> 00:50:40,860
what they were exporting. And
yes, they were militarized. So

879
00:50:41,610 --> 00:50:44,340
Well, isn't that your answer?
Right there them because they

880
00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:49,050
were militarized? Well, we're in
a proxy war with Russia. I mean,

881
00:50:49,050 --> 00:50:49,710
yeah, I think we,

882
00:50:50,340 --> 00:50:52,860
because they've been sending
they've been shipping parts

883
00:50:52,860 --> 00:50:56,550
since 2008. That they come up
out of the blue and bust these

884
00:50:56,550 --> 00:51:00,870
guys. I think it is part of the
proxy war. Yes. It's like, Hey,

885
00:51:01,740 --> 00:51:04,500
we got an idea. Hey, yo, because
you for one thing, you can take

886
00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:07,530
a look at the bag of parts. And
you get it looks to me as though

887
00:51:07,530 --> 00:51:11,400
they were shipping stuff for a
testing. Because there were too

888
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,730
many different DNA converters.
It's not like how many of these

889
00:51:14,730 --> 00:51:17,880
things do you need? I mean, it
wasn't like they have shipping

890
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,330
buckets full of one, one type
there was all these different

891
00:51:21,330 --> 00:51:21,660
ones.

892
00:51:21,690 --> 00:51:25,140
And what is the what is the DD
Ed's so that's digital to analog

893
00:51:25,140 --> 00:51:27,210
converter, what would that be
used for to

894
00:51:27,390 --> 00:51:30,570
use it for like if you have a
fin that you have to move on a

895
00:51:30,570 --> 00:51:36,030
missile, you know, the digital
information that has to be

896
00:51:36,030 --> 00:51:41,640
turned into gear and move it
around? Okay? Again, like that,

897
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:45,330
that kind of thing. So that you
need D Day converters, a lot of

898
00:51:45,330 --> 00:51:48,510
DDA converters, and then they
had all the memory chips that

899
00:51:48,510 --> 00:51:51,150
they were ordered, were all
militarized. In other words,

900
00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:54,600
they were the hardened type of
memory that has work under

901
00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:01,020
extreme conditions. But you
know, yeah, the bag of parts

902
00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:03,120
looks pretty sketchy. But
there's been doing it since

903
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,390
2008. To the end, they've been
doing like a dual big business,

904
00:52:06,420 --> 00:52:09,450
his whole family, a bunch of
these people. So I think it's a

905
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:13,140
I think it's part of the whole
thing is I wouldn't be surprised

906
00:52:13,140 --> 00:52:17,490
if they got off eventually. But
But meanwhile, they the

907
00:52:17,490 --> 00:52:20,640
indictment wants to confiscate
everything. They have all their

908
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,830
bank accounts listed or taken
all their money, they have all

909
00:52:22,830 --> 00:52:25,050
their houses and all their
offices listed. They're taken

910
00:52:25,050 --> 00:52:28,620
all that, you know, the way they
operate. Yeah, of course, they

911
00:52:28,620 --> 00:52:30,000
were taking your stuff.

912
00:52:32,220 --> 00:52:33,630
Oh, gotta love it.

913
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,620
Anyway, there was a report that
I have on the clips that came

914
00:52:37,620 --> 00:52:39,840
from where I figured that if I'm
gonna get a clip about this, I'm

915
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,060
gonna get the Russia Today clip
because that'll be the most

916
00:52:42,060 --> 00:52:46,170
slanted. You can play that and
it gives people a background on

917
00:52:46,170 --> 00:52:46,980
what we're talking about.

918
00:52:48,570 --> 00:52:50,910
I don't have one specifically
the only one that says Russia

919
00:52:50,910 --> 00:52:54,180
today is Turkey. So you have to
notice another clip. It's

920
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,910
something labeled very clearly,
I'm sure.

921
00:52:57,810 --> 00:53:01,050
Yeah, let's see. Turkey assault
positioning.

922
00:53:02,340 --> 00:53:05,550
New Russian spies. How about
that one? Yeah, I would make it

923
00:53:05,580 --> 00:53:08,010
Yeah. Okay. It's so clearly
arty.

924
00:53:08,070 --> 00:53:10,380
But what we're seeing is a
statement being issued by the

925
00:53:10,380 --> 00:53:12,960
Russian Foreign Ministry
regarding the four Russian

926
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,690
citizens currently still in
custody who have been charged

927
00:53:15,690 --> 00:53:19,230
with the illegal export of
military technology. The foreign

928
00:53:19,230 --> 00:53:21,870
ministry is suggesting that
these four Russians are being

929
00:53:21,870 --> 00:53:25,650
put under extreme psychological
and moral pressure in order to

930
00:53:25,650 --> 00:53:28,500
get them to sign confessions.
The foreign ministry is also

931
00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:31,320
wanting a review of the decision
to deny these for Russian

932
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,460
citizens bail. It has taken the
media by storm and little bit it

933
00:53:35,460 --> 00:53:37,920
has been all over the media.
This is some kind of spy

934
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,770
scandal. This is dismissed by
the Foreign Ministry, they say

935
00:53:40,770 --> 00:53:42,750
all you have to do is look at
the charges that have been

936
00:53:42,750 --> 00:53:46,200
leveled against these four
Russian citizens, their criminal

937
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,710
charges, the families of these
Russian citizens have been

938
00:53:49,770 --> 00:53:52,530
expressing concern over the way
that they're being treated while

939
00:53:52,530 --> 00:53:54,960
they're in custody has been
suggestions that they're being

940
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,170
forced to sleep on the floor,
that they're in very crowded

941
00:53:58,170 --> 00:54:00,870
cells. These four Russian
citizens were picked up on the

942
00:54:00,870 --> 00:54:04,890
third of October as part of a
group of 11 people that the FBI

943
00:54:04,890 --> 00:54:08,370
wanted to speak to in connection
with the export of high tech

944
00:54:08,460 --> 00:54:11,760
technology from the United
States to Russia. It's believed

945
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,630
that technology has a potential
of military use. They were

946
00:54:15,630 --> 00:54:18,240
picked up in Houston and Texas
over the next few days. They're

947
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:21,960
going to be moved to New York
where the first hearings on this

948
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,490
case will be heard next week.

949
00:54:23,940 --> 00:54:26,310
Do you think they could make it
clear that they were citizens

950
00:54:26,370 --> 00:54:27,690
any more than they already did?

951
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,300
There's that and of course in
there did they lift up the

952
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:36,060
waterboarding part which may or
may not have taken place Yeah.

953
00:54:37,050 --> 00:54:42,090
Yeah. So yeah, no, this is part
of whatever scheme whatever this

954
00:54:42,090 --> 00:54:44,610
is getting worse by the minute
this this action between the

955
00:54:44,610 --> 00:54:47,880
United States and Russia is
coming very is becoming very

956
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,620
clear. How nasty is getting
because Russia today has his own

957
00:54:52,620 --> 00:54:57,150
channel now, by the way, no
network on on the dish. Yeah.

958
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,960
And it's all really is gone.
They crank up the propaganda and

959
00:55:01,260 --> 00:55:03,930
I mean, it's really
propagandistic more than much

960
00:55:03,930 --> 00:55:05,190
more than it was a year ago.

961
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,790
But I think in general, you can
say that about everything on

962
00:55:08,790 --> 00:55:13,140
cable we have our T is
completely pro pro Russia, screw

963
00:55:13,140 --> 00:55:15,300
America, and they and they
hammer on all the things we

964
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:19,560
like, I have to say, you know,
NDA, you know, drones, you know,

965
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,800
there's essentially, I mean, we
could be we could work for the

966
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,770
Russians in that regard. Yeah,
you know, it's what bothers me.

967
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:31,230
Yeah. Then we have MSNBC Obama
channel. They are. They're not

968
00:55:31,260 --> 00:55:33,600
they're not even apologizing for
it.

969
00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:37,260
No, and if you get that idiot,
Ed Schultz, I got it goes crazy.

970
00:55:37,860 --> 00:55:41,130
You know, he just screams and he
rants about how evil the

971
00:55:41,130 --> 00:55:43,140
Republicans are. He's a horrible
person.

972
00:55:43,170 --> 00:55:48,510
There was something I caught on
current, which, and I had to do

973
00:55:48,510 --> 00:55:53,340
a little bit of research and it
wasn't all that hard. Who do you

974
00:55:53,340 --> 00:55:58,440
think current is working for? I
mean, besides for Al Gore, but

975
00:55:58,770 --> 00:56:00,930
who do you think they're
representing? Because they must

976
00:56:00,930 --> 00:56:03,390
represent it they can't just be
completely when you hear the

977
00:56:03,390 --> 00:56:03,960
report.

978
00:56:04,049 --> 00:56:07,469
They're not an Obama did they
have the some of the old Obama

979
00:56:07,469 --> 00:56:10,949
bought people from MSNBC, so we
know that they're on that side

980
00:56:10,949 --> 00:56:14,549
of things, but I would say more
Hillary? Well, I'm gonna

981
00:56:14,550 --> 00:56:17,760
say it may be more Obama than
you think. Listen to this

982
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,690
report. And then I did a little
bit of deconstruction of it. And

983
00:56:21,690 --> 00:56:23,190
we'll see where this is all
coming from

984
00:56:23,190 --> 00:56:28,110
so I'm ever warehouse employees
at Walmart stores are walking

985
00:56:28,110 --> 00:56:31,230
out and striking. And this is a
very big deal, because we've

986
00:56:31,230 --> 00:56:33,690
heard a lot of drama with
Walmart, you know, they refuse

987
00:56:33,690 --> 00:56:37,980
to unionize their workers. They
refuse to pay them a fair wage

988
00:56:37,980 --> 00:56:42,240
for their hard work. And a lot
of employees are now tired, so

989
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:45,570
tired of it, that they're
willing to risk their jobs to

990
00:56:45,570 --> 00:56:47,490
walk out and do this strike.

991
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:48,330
Okay, so

992
00:56:49,860 --> 00:56:56,580
can I say something first? Yeah.
Walmart isn't refusing to

993
00:56:56,580 --> 00:56:58,500
unionize their workers. Whew,

994
00:56:58,530 --> 00:57:01,080
yep. That's a good you're
catching on?

995
00:57:01,290 --> 00:57:03,930
Why would they throw that in
there? Oh, they're refusing to

996
00:57:03,930 --> 00:57:08,880
your union. No, the the workers
themselves have to caught create

997
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,570
a situation where they can take
a ballot, and then decide to

998
00:57:12,570 --> 00:57:16,470
unionize. And then a bunch of
laws fall into place. There's no

999
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:20,370
company that refuses to unionize
their workers or wants to

1000
00:57:20,370 --> 00:57:22,350
unionize their workers unless
it's corrupt.

1001
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:24,630
So that is the first clue.

1002
00:57:24,810 --> 00:57:28,050
So, you know, they're asking for
something very simple. For

1003
00:57:28,050 --> 00:57:30,960
instance, there's one employee
who's been there. He's striking.

1004
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,990
He's been there for three years.
And he's still making a little

1005
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:38,700
over $8 890 an hour. Okay. And
he's working in the produce

1006
00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:39,270
section.

1007
00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:41,460
By the way, that's what I make
me do.

1008
00:57:41,850 --> 00:57:45,210
They're not giving these
employees what they need to

1009
00:57:45,210 --> 00:57:50,190
survive, despite the fact that
they are massively profitable.

1010
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,840
So it's up to you. This is
disguised as news. I don't know

1011
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,720
who this woman is. But now chunk
is going to come in and chunk us

1012
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,290
some facts of the city strike
for the first time in Walmart's

1013
00:58:01,290 --> 00:58:05,760
history in the last 50 years.
And one of the original strikes

1014
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,480
that began this was in a place
for subcontractors as they were

1015
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:15,060
doing business. The factory got
to be 120 degrees. So the two

1016
00:58:15,060 --> 00:58:17,700
things they were asking for,
they weren't asking for like

1017
00:58:17,700 --> 00:58:21,150
great benefits or even increased
salaries. They want to ceiling

1018
00:58:21,150 --> 00:58:25,320
fans because it was 120 degrees
in there. And they wanted shin

1019
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,870
guards, because those heavy
carts they were pushing around,

1020
00:58:27,870 --> 00:58:30,420
kept running into their shins,
and they were getting hurt.

1021
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:36,270
Okay, so let's just revisit what
we've heard here. Walmart evil,

1022
00:58:36,450 --> 00:58:39,780
evil, evil, evil warmer, they
won't let their their workers

1023
00:58:39,780 --> 00:58:43,740
unionize. All they wanted were
some ceiling fans and some shin

1024
00:58:43,740 --> 00:58:49,230
guards. So I start to I start to
research who is organizing this

1025
00:58:49,260 --> 00:58:56,040
strike. This is an outfit called
OUR Walmart. If you go to four

1026
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:03,750
respects.org John, f o r, r e s,
p e, c t, fo r r e s p e c t,

1027
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:10,110
for respect not org. Our Walmart
organization United for Respect

1028
00:59:10,110 --> 00:59:14,520
at Walmart about us OUR Walmart
vision, we envision a future in

1029
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,400
which our company treats us the
associates of Walmart with

1030
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,940
respect and dignity. We envision
a world where we succeed in our

1031
00:59:20,940 --> 00:59:24,300
careers our company succeeds in
business, our customers receive

1032
00:59:24,300 --> 00:59:28,410
great service and value blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah. So I'm

1033
00:59:28,410 --> 00:59:33,390
looking at who is this
organization and all it says is

1034
00:59:33,390 --> 00:59:35,910
organization united for
respected Walmart independent

1035
00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:39,360
not for profit organization for
hourly associates are

1036
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,420
organizations not affiliated
with Walmart stores and etc,

1037
00:59:42,420 --> 00:59:46,560
etc. So I do a little who is on
them, which by the way, a chunk

1038
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,920
could have done with his TV
station there. That woman kind

1039
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,010
of Yeah, he's got he's got he's
got cameras and people running

1040
00:59:53,010 --> 00:59:56,700
around. Yeah, let's see staff.
He's got staff. It is the

1041
00:59:56,700 --> 01:00:00,270
organization united for Spectre,
Walmart. They are located hated

1042
01:00:00,270 --> 01:00:03,480
at I mean for just a bunch of
people just like, you know,

1043
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,570
we're workers where we're you
know, evil Walmart we're gonna

1044
01:00:06,570 --> 01:00:09,870
strike it's a multistage strike
by the way. It's funny they have

1045
01:00:09,870 --> 01:00:14,100
an office at 17 75k Street
Northwest in the District of

1046
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:18,210
Columbia. That would be the
lobbyist Street. And it this is

1047
01:00:18,210 --> 01:00:24,060
registered this domain name this
fall respect.org by certain W

1048
01:00:24,060 --> 01:00:31,830
O'Neill at ufcw.org. Oh my, what
is the UFC W John?

1049
01:00:34,050 --> 01:00:35,790
I don't know offhand United Food

1050
01:00:35,790 --> 01:00:41,400
and Commercial Workers
International Union. Hello. Some

1051
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,630
union is the union people. Your
course. Yeah, but they're

1052
01:00:45,630 --> 01:00:48,840
pretending these these people
I'm currently paying be

1053
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:49,470
grassroots.

1054
01:00:49,890 --> 01:00:50,760
Exactly.

1055
01:00:51,150 --> 01:00:52,020
It's a hijack.

1056
01:00:52,650 --> 01:00:55,650
Well, no, it's it's a good so
what do you call it? astroturf?

1057
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:01,020
astroturfing. Okay. So who is
currently V working for it? They

1058
01:01:01,020 --> 01:01:05,730
can't be completely stupid. I
mean, this is so silly. Instead

1059
01:01:05,730 --> 01:01:08,700
of the report should be well, it
looks like Walmart is trying to

1060
01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:11,310
unionize. And here's who's
helping them with it through

1061
01:01:11,310 --> 01:01:15,240
this front organization called
for respect.org are Walmart.

1062
01:01:15,630 --> 01:01:18,570
This is not a not a tough story
to bring. And I think it's

1063
01:01:18,570 --> 01:01:22,380
actually quite exciting to see
you know, this is we know that

1064
01:01:22,380 --> 01:01:23,220
Walmart that's

1065
01:01:23,250 --> 01:01:25,980
actually more interesting than
the story that they're telling.

1066
01:01:25,980 --> 01:01:29,310
Yes, thank you. Because you
know, these union guys are

1067
01:01:29,310 --> 01:01:32,070
trying Yeah, at this because if
they could unionize a few

1068
01:01:32,070 --> 01:01:35,700
Walmart's these guys, the US
whatever they are. They're CWM?

1069
01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:39,300
Yeah, they would have them it is
a bonanza and union dues.

1070
01:01:39,509 --> 01:01:41,309
Thank you. And where does that
go to?

1071
01:01:41,819 --> 01:01:44,669
It goes right to them paying for
that expensive office at

1072
01:01:44,669 --> 01:01:49,109
775170 5k? Street? Yeah. But we
also know that I'm looking at it

1073
01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:53,249
now. And we'll go down right
down on the street and look at

1074
01:01:53,249 --> 01:01:56,369
it. Can you go into they have an
insight on the Google's not yet,

1075
01:01:56,429 --> 01:02:00,359
but they haven't, but they are
building them up? I think it's

1076
01:02:00,359 --> 01:02:02,759
one of those you go inside there
has a guy with a big hand said

1077
01:02:02,759 --> 01:02:05,579
you can't go any further. Right.
But of

1078
01:02:05,580 --> 01:02:09,990
course Obama is is backed by the
union. So this is why I think

1079
01:02:10,980 --> 01:02:14,700
Current TV is still somehow
shilling for Obama.

1080
01:02:17,730 --> 01:02:21,390
Well, I know chant chunk is a
big Obama bot. So that's

1081
01:02:24,030 --> 01:02:27,450
what is his real name? I don't
know as

1082
01:02:28,050 --> 01:02:31,860
I don't know, it's really been
as a chunk. Chunk group. Oh,

1083
01:02:31,860 --> 01:02:32,880
Jake jogar

1084
01:02:32,910 --> 01:02:38,280
chunk is easier. I hear it
here's looking at our elites of

1085
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,780
the world. This was very, very
funny. So we arrested one

1086
01:02:42,780 --> 01:02:46,890
banker, I think, and not even
really for screwing the world

1087
01:02:46,890 --> 01:02:51,720
economy. But this was the the
Indian guy, the Gupta guy who

1088
01:02:51,870 --> 01:02:53,730
got nailed for insider trading.

1089
01:02:54,060 --> 01:02:57,480
Oh, yeah, he got Yeah, I think
he was a fall guy. But anyway,

1090
01:02:57,570 --> 01:03:01,800
well, now the elites are coming
out and because you know, of

1091
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:07,620
course, he's gonna get sentenced
because he got nailed for for

1092
01:03:07,620 --> 01:03:13,020
insider trading. Here's a quote
from Kofi Annan. Kofi Annan is

1093
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,750
the guy who fights for justice,
who actually gave up but he was

1094
01:03:15,750 --> 01:03:19,380
fighting for justice in Syria,
that Kofi Annan says to the

1095
01:03:19,380 --> 01:03:23,340
judge, I urge you to recognize
Raj opt for the good that he has

1096
01:03:23,340 --> 01:03:25,770
done in this world to give him
the credit that he deserves for

1097
01:03:25,770 --> 01:03:29,400
helping others and to take into
account his effort to improve

1098
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:35,520
the lives of millions of people.
Okay, what yeah, that's Kofi

1099
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:40,290
Annan, but who's next Bill Gates
checks in. I wanted to add my

1100
01:03:40,290 --> 01:03:43,560
voice to those of other friends
and colleagues of Rajat Gupta

1101
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:48,780
who are writing to you in order
to round out rajas profile. He

1102
01:03:48,780 --> 01:03:53,940
says he's, you know, he was he's
on the board of the Bill and

1103
01:03:53,940 --> 01:03:56,850
Melinda Gates Foundation. So
Bill Gates is in there shilling

1104
01:03:56,850 --> 01:04:00,810
for him. We as a society need
more visionaries like Rajat

1105
01:04:00,810 --> 01:04:04,830
Gupta Rajat Gupta is no threat
to anyone inside or outside the

1106
01:04:04,830 --> 01:04:05,880
prison fence.

1107
01:04:06,509 --> 01:04:09,179
Snowden neither is any other
insider trader.

1108
01:04:10,710 --> 01:04:13,590
And you know what, it might just
work these elite eight holes

1109
01:04:13,590 --> 01:04:16,980
they all stick up for each
other. Yeah, you should pretty

1110
01:04:16,980 --> 01:04:19,470
wild. You should denounce your
Windows machine. You should

1111
01:04:19,470 --> 01:04:21,030
throw it out the window right
now.

1112
01:04:23,670 --> 01:04:26,550
So drmeister They go get these
people coming out of the

1113
01:04:26,550 --> 01:04:29,850
woodwork reminds me that that
the Kennebunkport hooker

1114
01:04:33,660 --> 01:04:34,650
Am I missing a clip?

1115
01:04:35,490 --> 01:04:38,880
No. Yeah, I don't have. I have a
story though. Right. I

1116
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,100
have the link in the show notes.
I didn't look at it because I

1117
01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:43,920
figured it would use it. You
rarely send me a link as I just

1118
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,080
put it in there. I didn't look
at it. Tell me the story.

1119
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:52,800
Well, there's a hooker who ran a
I guess she was a personal

1120
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,740
trainer or or she ran a yoga
studio or something and

1121
01:04:55,740 --> 01:04:59,970
Kennebunkport busted her candy
bar prostitution

1122
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,730
Isn't that where the where the
Kennedys had the compound?

1123
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:07,350
That's Oh, this may be
Kennebunk. Oh, it's not

1124
01:05:07,350 --> 01:05:10,440
Kennebunkport, it's Kennebunk is
right next door to the other

1125
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,500
side of the tracks where the
hookers are. And I guess she was

1126
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:13,860
screwing

1127
01:05:14,310 --> 01:05:16,110
the other side of the bridge. Is
that possible?

1128
01:05:16,529 --> 01:05:22,679
Yes. I'm glad you thought that
was funny. Anyway, she was I

1129
01:05:22,679 --> 01:05:25,859
guess and she she apparently had
the bad habit of filming

1130
01:05:25,859 --> 01:05:29,489
everything. Oh, so she has all
these tapes hate it when my

1131
01:05:29,489 --> 01:05:33,809
hookers do that and all the all
these guys and this thing goes

1132
01:05:33,809 --> 01:05:36,329
on. I thought I had it. Oh,
actually, I know I remember

1133
01:05:36,329 --> 01:05:39,569
where the clip went. I don't
have it on my list here. But

1134
01:05:39,749 --> 01:05:42,569
they get there's a report I had
it was I took it from the

1135
01:05:42,569 --> 01:05:46,859
YouTube anyway, the they're
making a big stink about this

1136
01:05:46,859 --> 01:05:49,709
because he got she barely has a
black book with all this stuff

1137
01:05:49,739 --> 01:05:52,829
in people's names. But I'm
watching this report and they're

1138
01:05:52,829 --> 01:05:54,989
going on and on and on and on
and on and on. And then they

1139
01:05:54,989 --> 01:05:58,439
said yeah, she's being you know,
she's indicted. It's a

1140
01:05:58,439 --> 01:06:03,239
misdemeanor in the town. So this
is like nationwide breaking news

1141
01:06:03,239 --> 01:06:06,629
and it's a crappy misdemeanor
yet,

1142
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,470
but this is not a good idea to
have Black Books and videotapes

1143
01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:12,990
and tell people about it. This
is usually how you wind up

1144
01:06:13,020 --> 01:06:18,420
Suicide is not a good plan. She
was an idiot but not a good plan

1145
01:06:18,420 --> 01:06:19,170
at all as is

1146
01:06:19,470 --> 01:06:22,290
but I'm reminded that what why
are these guys coming out of the

1147
01:06:22,290 --> 01:06:26,580
woodwork to defend Gupta you
know when they should probably

1148
01:06:26,580 --> 01:06:28,980
stay you know staying away from
it because it sounds to me as

1149
01:06:28,980 --> 01:06:31,350
though they've got something to
deal with insider trading.

1150
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:38,250
Oh, right. Oh, they're worried
that he might blow the whistle

1151
01:06:38,250 --> 01:06:42,120
on them. So they're like yeah,
my buddy Gupta Come on, man go

1152
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:42,930
easy on

1153
01:06:43,830 --> 01:06:47,520
Russia because once they flip a
guy like let's face it, he's not

1154
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,510
the only guy doing illegal
trades. So you're right and he

1155
01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:54,960
must know everybody and their
sister and so now these guys are

1156
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,000
getting on his good side it
seems to me that's the only

1157
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,130
reason that's what the hooker
This is just what happens with

1158
01:06:59,130 --> 01:07:02,340
the hooker you know, the judge
lets her off. Why?

1159
01:07:02,460 --> 01:07:06,330
Oh, well gee, Judge lift up them
robes. Let's see if we can get a

1160
01:07:06,330 --> 01:07:06,960
match.

1161
01:07:07,860 --> 01:07:09,600
Wow. So anyway, okay.

1162
01:07:09,900 --> 01:07:13,140
Well, Rashad is is cruising for
freedom and the hooker has

1163
01:07:13,140 --> 01:07:16,920
proven cruisin for an
unfortunate lead poisoning at

1164
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:17,790
high velocity.

1165
01:07:19,170 --> 01:07:23,400
She is wow. I wish she barely
taped all of her encounters.

1166
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:28,020
That is so not smart. Yeah, they
have the tape so now it's

1167
01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:30,930
evidence against her the whole
thing's a disaster. Wow.

1168
01:07:33,510 --> 01:07:39,840
Well, maybe now would be time
for me to to sit down and well,

1169
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,900
actually, I'd like I'd like to
continue our celebration, John.

1170
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,470
Our silly our celebration of
National Cybersecurity Awareness

1171
01:07:49,470 --> 01:07:53,250
Month. Oh, that's right. It does
not stop it started the

1172
01:07:53,250 --> 01:07:54,240
beginning of October. I

1173
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,070
took part today took part today.
Oh, yeah. What

1174
01:07:56,070 --> 01:07:58,650
did you do to celebrate National
sign? rated a

1175
01:07:58,650 --> 01:08:03,930
vast? A vast? Yeah, it's one of
the one of the is the current

1176
01:08:04,590 --> 01:08:12,270
anti virus free free. Oh, being
your Avast needs to be up to

1177
01:08:12,270 --> 01:08:13,290
date in right. Yes.

1178
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,260
No. So you're guaranteed they
can spy on you. No, that's good.

1179
01:08:16,290 --> 01:08:18,930
Good. Good. Yeah. Always make
sure there's a backdoor. Well,

1180
01:08:18,930 --> 01:08:19,410
every

1181
01:08:19,410 --> 01:08:23,430
everybody is celebrating along
with us. So CNN, Iranian hackers

1182
01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:27,210
have launched a cyber war on us
targets. According to The Wall

1183
01:08:27,210 --> 01:08:30,870
Street Journal, which sides top
US officials. They say there's

1184
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:34,350
been a string of hacking attacks
on American banks and on oil and

1185
01:08:34,350 --> 01:08:37,740
energy companies in the Persian
Gulf and Middle East. Defense

1186
01:08:37,740 --> 01:08:40,770
Secretary Leon Panetta is
sounding the alarm. Yes. And of

1187
01:08:40,770 --> 01:08:44,250
course, so CNN and the Wall
Street Journal, we cannot leave

1188
01:08:44,250 --> 01:08:49,020
out MSN or CNBC. also
celebrating Cybersecurity

1189
01:08:49,020 --> 01:08:52,500
Awareness Month. Wells Fargo,
America's fourth largest bank

1190
01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:55,890
has been hit with a cyber
attack. Bank says no major

1191
01:08:55,890 --> 01:08:59,040
damage was done to their
accounts. US officials are now

1192
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,880
saying he ran and others are now
repairing a cyber attack on the

1193
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:07,530
US. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE LEON
PANETTA suggested a Pearl Harbor

1194
01:09:07,530 --> 01:09:13,350
type threat. And he laid out his
worst case scenarios. So I I

1195
01:09:13,350 --> 01:09:18,360
pulled a number of clips from
this speech that Leon Panetta

1196
01:09:18,750 --> 01:09:25,320
gave in New York on the on the
intrepid before the business

1197
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:30,090
enterprise organization. And I
think we some of them are a

1198
01:09:30,090 --> 01:09:33,030
couple minutes. Would you like
to go through these because his

1199
01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:35,520
whole speech was 40 minutes in
total. I've been able to boil it

1200
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,010
down. But I think what he was
saying is so incredibly

1201
01:09:38,010 --> 01:09:42,330
important, so that we understand
just how screwed we are as a

1202
01:09:42,330 --> 01:09:45,510
freedom fighters on the
internet. You and I are going to

1203
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:47,910
be off the air very, very soon.

1204
01:09:49,290 --> 01:09:50,610
I wouldn't be surprised.

1205
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:55,380
The first thing that I found
very interesting was Panetta is

1206
01:09:55,380 --> 01:09:59,160
connection to 911, which I
didn't even know there was one

1207
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:00,000
strong Nash

1208
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,110
Your defense is all about. And
you understand that a strong

1209
01:10:04,110 --> 01:10:08,340
national defense and a strong
economy go hand in hand.

1210
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,870
You see, is that the one I was
looking for? I think so.

1211
01:10:13,620 --> 01:10:19,710
With that in mind, tonight, I'd
like to discuss with you have an

1212
01:10:19,710 --> 01:10:21,150
issue, and I'm sorry.

1213
01:10:22,740 --> 01:10:25,080
Well, we'll just listen to this
one, I have no idea where that

1214
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:25,530
clip point

1215
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:31,740
that I think, is at the very
nexus of business, and national

1216
01:10:31,740 --> 01:10:38,610
security, the threats facing the
United States, in cyberspace,

1217
01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:43,920
and the role that the defense
department must play in

1218
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:49,320
defending this country from
those kinds of threats. We're on

1219
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:55,140
an aircraft carrier, a famous
and great aircraft carrier. And

1220
01:10:55,140 --> 01:10:59,880
it's a fitting and appropriate
venue to have this discussion,

1221
01:11:01,140 --> 01:11:06,570
this ship and the technology
that's on display at this

1222
01:11:06,570 --> 01:11:11,790
museum, a test to one of the
central achievements of the

1223
01:11:11,790 --> 01:11:14,730
United States in the 20th
century.

1224
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,130
You know, what's so horrible
about this guy when he talks he

1225
01:11:17,130 --> 01:11:19,560
takes so long to get the words
out.

1226
01:11:19,650 --> 01:11:22,860
Now when you use a density, you
can crank it up and you can you

1227
01:11:22,860 --> 01:11:23,820
can speed him up.

1228
01:11:25,230 --> 01:11:30,000
It's it's it's annoying, but
therefore, it was easy to edit.

1229
01:11:30,209 --> 01:11:33,179
Well, so far, you didn't edit
that part out and it's pretty

1230
01:11:33,179 --> 01:11:33,509
dull.

1231
01:11:33,540 --> 01:11:36,690
Yeah, well, then let's go to
exciting bit.

1232
01:11:37,710 --> 01:11:42,780
But even more alarming is an
attack that happened two months

1233
01:11:42,780 --> 01:11:48,540
ago, when a very sophisticated
virus called Shamoun

1234
01:11:48,630 --> 01:11:51,390
Shamoun. Have we heard of the
Shimon virus John?

1235
01:11:52,860 --> 01:11:54,180
Doesn't ring a bell

1236
01:11:54,210 --> 01:11:58,230
did your vast update for the
Shimbun virus? My friend? Ah, I

1237
01:11:58,230 --> 01:12:01,110
don't think so. Listen to what
this virus can do. It can

1238
01:12:01,110 --> 01:12:02,430
destroy you

1239
01:12:02,969 --> 01:12:08,339
infected computers in the Saudi
Arabian state oil company,

1240
01:12:08,369 --> 01:12:16,049
Aramco. Shamoun, included a
routine called a wiper,

1241
01:12:16,740 --> 01:12:18,540
wiper, a wiper,

1242
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,500
not a folder, not a scrunch here
but a wiper,

1243
01:12:23,550 --> 01:12:31,290
coated to self execute. This
routine replaced crucial systems

1244
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:35,550
files with an image of a burning
US flag.

1245
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:42,780
Okay, let me just get this
straight. So it plays JPEGs on

1246
01:12:42,780 --> 01:12:48,060
your instead of your registry or
something. I mean, I don't know.

1247
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,880
Let's listen some more because I
need to spell this virus

1248
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,340
Shamoun. You can look it up in
the book of knowledge. It is

1249
01:12:53,340 --> 01:13:02,700
exactly his description, s h a m
o n, which is HASSHAMO N. Now

1250
01:13:02,700 --> 01:13:06,330
listen, when I listen to when
you read the Wikipedia, you'll

1251
01:13:06,330 --> 01:13:08,310
hear exactly his description.

1252
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:15,360
But it also put additional
garbage data, garbage data that

1253
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:19,680
overrode all the real data on
the machine.

1254
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,250
This guy should be teaching it

1255
01:13:24,030 --> 01:13:30,660
more than 30,000 computers that
it infected were rendered

1256
01:13:30,750 --> 01:13:37,530
useless and had to be replaced.
Now. That's way Oh crap. Bull

1257
01:13:37,530 --> 01:13:42,930
crap. Oh, crap. What?

1258
01:13:42,990 --> 01:13:45,690
Yeah, no, no, wait, wait, no,
remember who he's talking to.

1259
01:13:45,690 --> 01:13:48,540
He's talking to business
enterprise executives. So of

1260
01:13:48,540 --> 01:13:53,940
course, first you say oh, my god
blew up 30,000 computers.

1261
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:59,070
It virtually destroyed 30,000
computers,

1262
01:14:00,300 --> 01:14:02,490
destroying 30,000 computers.

1263
01:14:03,750 --> 01:14:07,590
Then just days after this
incident, there was a similar

1264
01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:14,070
attack on Ross gas of Qatar, a
major energy company in the

1265
01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:20,520
region. All told. The shamoon
virus was probably the most

1266
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:25,140
destructive attack that the
private sector has seen today.

1267
01:14:25,380 --> 01:14:26,040
Okay.

1268
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:27,180
Really?

1269
01:14:27,210 --> 01:14:28,920
What No, no, wait for the scary
bit

1270
01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:34,470
agenda, the impact and attack
like that would have on your

1271
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:37,500
company. You aihole

1272
01:14:39,090 --> 01:14:43,350
First you lie about how the
computers were trashed. And then

1273
01:14:43,380 --> 01:14:50,310
imagine if that if that happened
to your company. Imagine if that

1274
01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:54,270
happened. So this goes on and on
and on. And you can see in the

1275
01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:58,350
in the Wikipedia it is literally
the same example of the 30,000.

1276
01:14:58,620 --> 01:15:03,210
It's a relatively new art
Article, so whatever Shamu virus

1277
01:15:03,210 --> 01:15:06,990
Okay, fine. So what do we need?
What do we need for all this? We

1278
01:15:06,990 --> 01:15:07,890
need new rules.

1279
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,940
Hold on a second. Let me do it.
Let me tell you the I'm looking

1280
01:15:11,940 --> 01:15:14,340
at the great thing about
Wikipedia nowadays is you can

1281
01:15:14,340 --> 01:15:15,900
look at the history of the
article.

1282
01:15:16,050 --> 01:15:21,360
And AT and T is the most recent
editor. Someone at the AT and T.

1283
01:15:22,410 --> 01:15:27,960
Things started showing up in
August 19. Of this year. With

1284
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:33,180
this is redundant, just two
people knew most. And Thor wall

1285
01:15:33,180 --> 01:15:34,650
they're discussing water. Yeah,

1286
01:15:34,710 --> 01:15:40,830
yeah. The shields obviously
this, of course, is bullcrap. So

1287
01:15:40,830 --> 01:15:43,740
what do we need? John? What do
we need to take action? What do

1288
01:15:43,740 --> 01:15:46,260
we need? What do we need? What
do we know? But

1289
01:15:46,260 --> 01:15:49,170
we need 30,000 machines all we
need

1290
01:15:49,170 --> 01:15:50,400
new rules.

1291
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,600
Responding to the cyber threat
cyber threat requires the right

1292
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,950
policies and organizations
across the federal government.

1293
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,540
For the past year, the
Department of Defense has been

1294
01:16:03,540 --> 01:16:08,820
working very closely with other
agencies to understand where are

1295
01:16:08,820 --> 01:16:13,170
the lines of responsibility?
When it comes to cyber defense?

1296
01:16:14,130 --> 01:16:17,640
Where do we draw those lines?
And how do those

1297
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:23,040
responsibilities get executed?
As part of that effort, the

1298
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:27,630
department is now finalizing the
most comprehensive change to our

1299
01:16:27,630 --> 01:16:32,040
rules of engagement in
cyberspace in seven years,

1300
01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:36,240
okay, so we don't know what the
rules are yet. But this is

1301
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,030
what's happening. We're changing
the rules, the most significant

1302
01:16:39,030 --> 01:16:44,070
change in seven years. We're in
the process. No worries, we're

1303
01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:45,960
getting there. Now. Of course,

1304
01:16:46,769 --> 01:16:51,449
the Department of Defense also
has a role. Uh huh. It is a

1305
01:16:51,449 --> 01:16:56,189
supporting role. Okay. But it is
an essential role. And tonight,

1306
01:16:56,189 --> 01:16:59,999
I want to explain what that
means. Thank you. But first, let

1307
01:16:59,999 --> 01:17:04,889
me make clear what it does not
mean, okay. It does not mean

1308
01:17:04,889 --> 01:17:06,869
that Department of Defense.

1309
01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:10,740
Do you notice that he stumbles
every single time he's trying to

1310
01:17:10,740 --> 01:17:13,470
say Department of Defense? He
says department of depends.

1311
01:17:15,630 --> 01:17:17,790
Yeah, he seems to have trouble
saying defense

1312
01:17:17,820 --> 01:17:21,720
clear what it does not mean
department. He's always saying

1313
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:22,410
department.

1314
01:17:23,730 --> 01:17:28,410
It does not mean that Department
of Defense will monitor

1315
01:17:28,410 --> 01:17:31,500
citizens, personal personal
computers.

1316
01:17:31,530 --> 01:17:35,940
Oh, no, of course not. A
citizen. No, not at all. Hey,

1317
01:17:35,940 --> 01:17:38,880
citizen. We won't monitor your
personal email.

1318
01:17:39,809 --> 01:17:43,499
We're not interested in personal
communication. Oh, no, of course

1319
01:17:43,499 --> 01:17:47,489
not. Or in emails, no. Or in
providing the day to day

1320
01:17:47,489 --> 01:17:51,479
security of private and
commercial networks like vas,

1321
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:55,679
that is not our goal. That is
not our job. That is not our

1322
01:17:55,679 --> 01:17:57,539
mission. Oh, gudi

1323
01:17:57,690 --> 01:17:58,710
are Miss job is

1324
01:17:58,710 --> 01:18:02,250
it? Well, it will. The mission
is of course

1325
01:18:02,250 --> 01:18:05,370
he says it he says it assumes
they do wait. You have to assume

1326
01:18:05,370 --> 01:18:07,830
the way set made that phrase,
it's somebody's job. It's not

1327
01:18:07,830 --> 01:18:10,740
his though. Well, that's what
his job is to monitor our email,

1328
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,430
the commercial companies, that's
what he's leading up to. He's

1329
01:18:14,430 --> 01:18:17,700
leading up to saying it is your
job to do that

1330
01:18:18,150 --> 01:18:24,030
is to defend the nation, defend
the nation, we defend, we deter

1331
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:29,760
and if called upon, we take
decisive action to protect our

1332
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:34,860
citizens. In the past we have
done so through operations on

1333
01:18:34,860 --> 01:18:40,440
land and at sea, in the skies
and in space. And now in this

1334
01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:45,720
century, the United States
military must help defend the

1335
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:51,930
nation in cyberspace as well.
Yeah, if a foreign adversary

1336
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:58,740
attack us soil, the American
people have every right to

1337
01:18:58,740 --> 01:19:03,120
expect their national defense
forces to respond

1338
01:19:03,330 --> 01:19:05,790
to it's kind of interesting that
we're being we're under attack

1339
01:19:05,790 --> 01:19:10,440
right now because I heard it on
CNN and CNBC. So we are under

1340
01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:14,790
attack. So at any moment, Leon
Panetta will dawn his Tron cyber

1341
01:19:14,790 --> 01:19:18,330
suit and and come to our rescue,
how can you help companies

1342
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:24,270
ultimately, no one has a greater
interest in cybersecurity, than

1343
01:19:24,270 --> 01:19:29,790
the businesses that depend on a
safe, secure and resilient

1344
01:19:29,970 --> 01:19:34,530
global digital infrastructure,
particularly those who operate

1345
01:19:34,830 --> 01:19:39,960
the critical networks that we
must help defend. To defend

1346
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:44,970
those networks more effectively.
We must share information

1347
01:19:45,570 --> 01:19:49,500
between the government and the
private sector, about threats in

1348
01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:54,720
cyberspace. We've made real
progress in sharing information

1349
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,070
with the private sector that

1350
01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:59,130
just go look on Second Street in
San Francisco or just look up

1351
01:19:59,130 --> 01:20:03,390
Echelon or, or their wiretapping
without warrants, we've made

1352
01:20:03,390 --> 01:20:05,160
some real progress.

1353
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:10,440
But very frankly, we need
Congress to act to ensure that

1354
01:20:10,440 --> 01:20:15,900
this sharing is timely and
comprehensive. company should be

1355
01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:19,800
able to share specific threat
information with the government,

1356
01:20:20,340 --> 01:20:24,300
without the prospect of lawsuits
hanging over their head, oh,

1357
01:20:24,300 --> 01:20:29,310
here we go. There it is. And the
key principle must be to protect

1358
01:20:29,310 --> 01:20:34,080
the fundamental liberties and
privacy in cyberspace that we

1359
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,060
are all duty bound to uphold

1360
01:20:36,090 --> 01:20:37,740
What could possibly go wrong?

1361
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:44,100
Fact is that to fully provide
the necessary protection in our

1362
01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:49,050
democracy, cybersecurity
legislation must be passed by

1363
01:20:49,050 --> 01:20:54,960
the Congress. Without it, we
are, and we will be vulnerable.

1364
01:20:55,440 --> 01:20:57,810
And then of course, we've got to
wrap the whole thing up by

1365
01:20:57,810 --> 01:21:00,930
really putting this the fear of
God into you while you're on an

1366
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,120
aircraft carrier in New York.

1367
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:12,900
before September 11 2001. The
warning signs were there. We

1368
01:21:12,900 --> 01:21:19,590
weren't organized. We weren't
ready. And we suffered terribly.

1369
01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:26,760
For that lack of attention. We
cannot let that happen again.

1370
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:32,070
This is pre 911 moment.

1371
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:40,020
Let's clap for that. Pre 911.
Wadley pre 911

1372
01:21:40,050 --> 01:21:44,970
PD attackers are plotting. Our
systems will never be

1373
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:50,370
impenetrable. Just like our
physical defenses are not

1374
01:21:50,370 --> 01:21:56,400
perfect. But more can be done to
improve them. We need Congress

1375
01:21:57,030 --> 01:22:02,730
and we need all of you to help
in that effort. I want you to

1376
01:22:02,730 --> 01:22:06,450
know that Department of Defense
is doing our part.

1377
01:22:07,019 --> 01:22:12,629
Yeah. Right. So there you go pre
911 This is a Pearl Harbor event

1378
01:22:12,629 --> 01:22:14,129
Pearl spelled P E R

1379
01:22:14,130 --> 01:22:19,020
L. So you should read my column
cyber war. Bring It On October

1380
01:22:19,020 --> 01:22:22,980
12. PC Magazine people out there
right where I discussed this

1381
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:27,420
exact topic. Yeah. And I'd have
a couple of good lines in here.

1382
01:22:27,900 --> 01:22:32,310
One is now according to the
government officials, we have

1383
01:22:32,310 --> 01:22:35,700
again, a threat looming over our
heads. This time. It's a form of

1384
01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:39,390
cyber terrorism. Nevermind that
the terrorists who we managed to

1385
01:22:39,390 --> 01:22:43,650
identify tend to be living in
mud huts in Waziristan where

1386
01:22:43,650 --> 01:22:46,710
they enjoy blasting them left
and right with drone strikes. As

1387
01:22:46,710 --> 01:22:49,710
far as I know, these folks and
their dirt roads do not sit on

1388
01:22:49,710 --> 01:22:54,810
any OSI 768 fiber network. Even
if they have a phone line, it

1389
01:22:54,810 --> 01:22:57,390
would be a miracle exactly how
they can manage to get the

1390
01:22:57,390 --> 01:23:01,710
skills necessary to develop
complex cyber attacks is beyond

1391
01:23:01,710 --> 01:23:02,250
me.

1392
01:23:03,180 --> 01:23:05,910
You did you you should have
added in there, didn't our

1393
01:23:05,910 --> 01:23:10,650
government just tell us that
Iran was was disconnecting the

1394
01:23:10,650 --> 01:23:12,540
entire country from the web that

1395
01:23:12,540 --> 01:23:14,010
in the column? Oh, good, good. I

1396
01:23:14,010 --> 01:23:16,380
mean, you can't have it both
ways. There is

1397
01:23:16,440 --> 01:23:19,890
Iran or Iran who by the way, in
the in the debates, it's

1398
01:23:19,890 --> 01:23:25,740
interesting that that Ryan
pronounce it Iran correctly, the

1399
01:23:25,740 --> 01:23:29,160
host pronounce it Iran
correctly. And Biden pronounce

1400
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:29,940
it Iran.

1401
01:23:29,970 --> 01:23:33,510
He's not in the loop. He's not
in the loop. But here's here's

1402
01:23:33,540 --> 01:23:36,540
here's where I was leading up to
this is some legislation unless

1403
01:23:36,540 --> 01:23:38,910
you want to read more from your
column, which I always enjoyed,

1404
01:23:38,940 --> 01:23:42,120
but people should go get this
column and they get a point here

1405
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:43,110
I brought I brought out

1406
01:23:43,950 --> 01:23:46,590
there a free decoder ring. If
you read the column, this is

1407
01:23:46,590 --> 01:23:47,100
something

1408
01:23:47,730 --> 01:23:51,360
they learned something. So I
have the latest

1409
01:23:52,230 --> 01:23:56,100
draft document of clean it the
clean it which is now

1410
01:23:56,100 --> 01:24:00,630
circulating through the European
Union. This is that now we've we

1411
01:24:00,630 --> 01:24:06,030
read this legislation earlier,
the August Legia briefing. And I

1412
01:24:06,030 --> 01:24:09,690
have now come into possession of
the most recent update, it is

1413
01:24:09,690 --> 01:24:13,230
the clean it project. This is
from the European Union. There's

1414
01:24:13,230 --> 01:24:16,560
a link in the show notes at 452
dot n a shownotes.com. You can

1415
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,070
see the entire clean it site
this of course this document is

1416
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:24,180
not listed there. Because it is
confidential, not for

1417
01:24:24,180 --> 01:24:27,750
publication limited
distribution. This document or

1418
01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:30,570
the recipient may share this
document only with others within

1419
01:24:30,570 --> 01:24:33,990
their organization on a need to
know basis. Now the fact that I

1420
01:24:33,990 --> 01:24:37,830
am in possession of this
probably means that it's being

1421
01:24:37,830 --> 01:24:41,550
floated to see what the response
will be. And they purposely

1422
01:24:41,550 --> 01:24:45,240
leaked. Yes, it is being leaked.
I would like to read you some of

1423
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,120
the recommendations that will be
a part of the legislation of the

1424
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:52,890
European Union as it pertains to
terrorism, illegal activities

1425
01:24:52,920 --> 01:25:00,690
and the internet. Are you ready?
No. Okay, so The leading the

1426
01:25:00,690 --> 01:25:04,170
European Commission will be
approached to consider finding a

1427
01:25:04,170 --> 01:25:07,140
European organization that will
adopt the results of the clean

1428
01:25:07,140 --> 01:25:11,070
it continuous activities and
hosts the new European public

1429
01:25:11,070 --> 01:25:15,120
private dialogue and cooperation
format to reduce terrorists use

1430
01:25:15,150 --> 01:25:18,300
of the internet. So what they're
doing here is they're pitching

1431
01:25:18,300 --> 01:25:21,990
for regulation, and of course,
another government body that

1432
01:25:21,990 --> 01:25:25,470
will regulate your internet
freedoms. And in Europe, it is

1433
01:25:25,470 --> 01:25:28,320
the European Commission who does
this, they have all the power,

1434
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,680
these are the non elected elites
who run the show. So let's just

1435
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,660
run through a couple of things
of what this will Oh, by the

1436
01:25:33,660 --> 01:25:36,570
way, governments that commit to
this document will start the

1437
01:25:36,570 --> 01:25:40,620
National Clean it cooperation
format within half a year. So

1438
01:25:40,620 --> 01:25:44,070
this is six months from now,
John, we could be off air within

1439
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:47,370
six months. And I'll tell you
why. Listen to what's going on

1440
01:25:47,370 --> 01:25:50,850
here. Under the legal framework,
internet companies must be

1441
01:25:50,850 --> 01:25:55,650
obliged by law to provide le A's
that's law enforcement agencies,

1442
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:57,750
but I'll just call them le A's
from now on because they use it

1443
01:25:57,750 --> 01:26:00,930
throughout the entire document.
With all necessary customer

1444
01:26:00,930 --> 01:26:03,750
information for investigations
of terrorists use of the

1445
01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:08,250
internet, it must be legal for
police officers to patrol on

1446
01:26:08,250 --> 01:26:12,510
social media. This includes
having a profile, joining user

1447
01:26:12,510 --> 01:26:15,870
groups sending and receiving
messages on the platform. So

1448
01:26:15,870 --> 01:26:17,820
we're gonna have cops on the
social.

1449
01:26:18,330 --> 01:26:21,930
This is a cop job. I wouldn't
mind having Well, standby

1450
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:26,790
because I'm gonna be on patrol
today. I'll be on Twitter. I

1451
01:26:26,790 --> 01:26:31,800
need a break. I gotta take a
break from Twitter. I'm gonna go

1452
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:35,340
ask you guys at lunch. I'm gonna
be out. Yeah, this afternoon.

1453
01:26:35,340 --> 01:26:37,890
I'm going to be patrolling
Facebook, if you know what I

1454
01:26:37,890 --> 01:26:40,770
mean. And then I'm gonna go
patrol friend finder, if you

1455
01:26:40,770 --> 01:26:42,060
know what I mean, again, a
camera.

1456
01:26:43,410 --> 01:26:47,910
kind of check on everybody. Go
check on the terrorist. Okay,

1457
01:26:47,910 --> 01:26:52,050
knowingly providing hyperlinks
on websites to terrorist content

1458
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:57,420
must be defined by law as
illegal. Let me repeat that.

1459
01:26:57,690 --> 01:26:59,700
Yes, please repeat that that was
a good one.

1460
01:26:59,879 --> 01:27:04,919
Knowingly providing hyperlinks
on websites to terrorist content

1461
01:27:05,219 --> 01:27:09,749
must be defined by law is
illegal. Of course, really, what

1462
01:27:09,749 --> 01:27:11,099
is terrorist content?

1463
01:27:11,429 --> 01:27:12,749
Is that of course, man.

1464
01:27:15,900 --> 01:27:20,130
There you go. Terrorist content,
states Muslim states. And that

1465
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,680
that means of course, the the
member states of the European

1466
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:26,460
Union countries must make clear
that original terrorist content

1467
01:27:26,460 --> 01:27:29,340
and terrorist activities on the
internet of people and

1468
01:27:29,340 --> 01:27:33,150
organizations is illegal and
should not be allowed on

1469
01:27:33,150 --> 01:27:36,450
internet company platforms. And
the platform's is the thing that

1470
01:27:36,450 --> 01:27:38,490
becomes very interesting,
because we're going to explain

1471
01:27:38,490 --> 01:27:44,970
what that means. I love this
judge's public prosecutors and

1472
01:27:44,970 --> 01:27:49,260
specialized police officers must
be legally allowed to order by

1473
01:27:49,260 --> 01:27:52,740
means of a notice and take
action procedure to remove

1474
01:27:52,770 --> 01:27:55,800
terrorist content from the
internet. So that doesn't mean

1475
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,620
you're gonna have a trial. I
mean, specialized police

1476
01:27:58,620 --> 01:28:01,980
officers can go, let's remove
this remove this from the

1477
01:28:01,980 --> 01:28:05,280
internet. This is a terrorist
content, let's get rid of it.

1478
01:28:07,260 --> 01:28:11,460
Governments must have le A's or
intelligence agencies monitor

1479
01:28:11,460 --> 01:28:15,000
terrorist use of the internet,
but only monitor specific

1480
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,090
threats, not primarily the
population as a whole or all

1481
01:28:18,090 --> 01:28:21,630
internet use. Again, what could
possibly go wrong with that?

1482
01:28:22,530 --> 01:28:25,200
Governments have clear policies
and intelligence gathering and

1483
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,380
when to take action against
terrorists radicalizing content

1484
01:28:28,380 --> 01:28:31,560
on the radicalizing content on
the internet. So now it's

1485
01:28:31,620 --> 01:28:36,030
radicalizing content that they
will be policing. Governments

1486
01:28:36,030 --> 01:28:39,060
must have specialized police
officers patrol on social media.

1487
01:28:39,060 --> 01:28:43,470
There it is, again, governments
must disseminate lists of domain

1488
01:28:43,470 --> 01:28:47,100
names that are not allowed to be
registered to prevent terrorist

1489
01:28:47,100 --> 01:28:53,310
propaganda. So what would what
like I don't know. No agenda

1490
01:28:53,310 --> 01:28:54,210
show.com.

1491
01:28:56,130 --> 01:28:58,920
No agenda that's got a very
nebulous,

1492
01:28:59,340 --> 01:29:02,610
it's propaganda man, is to
prevent terrorist propaganda.

1493
01:29:02,610 --> 01:29:06,000
This is so open for
interpretation. Governments must

1494
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:11,010
subsidize competent NGOs as non
governmental organizations gonna

1495
01:29:11,010 --> 01:29:14,610
have to be us exactly. That
substantially contribute to

1496
01:29:14,610 --> 01:29:18,240
reducing terrorist use on the
Internet and radicalized we're

1497
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,300
up. That's exactly what the no
agenda shows all about. But then

1498
01:29:21,300 --> 01:29:21,600
we have to

1499
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:25,800
become a registered NGO. Yeah.
Okay. Well, there's money in it

1500
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,050
for us. I'm telling you, there's
big money in it for us.

1501
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,570
Yeah. I mean, I don't have a
problem with this. Okay.

1502
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,490
Let me skip down to the next bit
here.

1503
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:39,450
And by the way, we also consider
Hillary a terrorist. Yes. And

1504
01:29:39,450 --> 01:29:39,660
just

1505
01:29:39,660 --> 01:29:42,570
saying this is enough to get us
kicked off. Now we have to

1506
01:29:42,570 --> 01:29:47,400
implement flagging and reporting
buttons systems. Flagging slash

1507
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:50,940
Report button systems must be
implemented by provider

1508
01:29:50,940 --> 01:29:55,200
everywhere. Ah, yes, log. Well,
yes, I'll tell you. This has to

1509
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:58,680
happen on the following
providers of chat boxes, email

1510
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:02,130
services, messaging says Some
social networks retailing sized

1511
01:30:02,340 --> 01:30:06,210
Voice over Internet Protocol,
web forums must all have

1512
01:30:06,210 --> 01:30:09,870
flagging systems. web forums.

1513
01:30:13,019 --> 01:30:14,999
Now it's dumb, but it gets
better.

1514
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:19,860
The anonymity of the boingboing.
Yeah, the anonymity of the

1515
01:30:19,860 --> 01:30:23,730
reporter must be preserved.
Reporter details must hit man.

1516
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,010
This is contradictory because
there's other laws saying you

1517
01:30:26,010 --> 01:30:28,020
can't have anonymity. What's the
deal?

1518
01:30:28,829 --> 01:30:32,219
Let me finish the sentence.
Reporter details must never be

1519
01:30:32,219 --> 01:30:36,029
shown to content owners. In
other words, you can just go rat

1520
01:30:36,029 --> 01:30:39,839
on people and you're never gonna
have any recover repercussions

1521
01:30:39,869 --> 01:30:42,929
because you know, you'll be
protected. You'll be protected

1522
01:30:42,929 --> 01:30:44,219
by ratting someone out.

1523
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,090
Oh, yeah, I'm reading out the
New York Times.

1524
01:30:48,390 --> 01:30:52,710
Specialized NGOs should actively
flagged illegal terrorist

1525
01:30:52,710 --> 01:30:55,860
content. Oh, my God. John, can
you imagine just sitting around

1526
01:30:55,860 --> 01:30:57,630
all day just clicking flagging
stuff

1527
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,560
all day, like this guy's face.

1528
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,640
And it gets better. Internet
companies could extend a higher

1529
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:09,060
credibility status to trusted
flagging organizations.

1530
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:13,890
trusted flaggers? Yes. I love
the brown dress that flag to say

1531
01:31:13,890 --> 01:31:14,700
my flag

1532
01:31:14,790 --> 01:31:17,340
will have the brown shirts in
cyberspace.

1533
01:31:17,610 --> 01:31:19,560
I don't know about your flag.
But I wouldn't mind seeing your

1534
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:20,910
poll. Hey, now.

1535
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:26,430
Voice over IP Voice over IP
services, it must be possible to

1536
01:31:26,430 --> 01:31:29,790
flag users for terrorist
activity. Now you guys got it

1537
01:31:29,790 --> 01:31:30,150
out.

1538
01:31:30,420 --> 01:31:31,470
Unless you're listening in.

1539
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,200
If messaging systems are
attached, it must also be

1540
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:38,400
possible to flag specific
messages. Some Voice over IP

1541
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,160
technologies allow for
conversations to be flagged.

1542
01:31:41,190 --> 01:31:43,110
Yeah, I guess that's what Skypes
doing. That's why they're

1543
01:31:43,110 --> 01:31:44,130
sucking so bad.

1544
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,460
Yeah, too many flags clogging up
the bandwidth. Internet

1545
01:31:47,460 --> 01:31:47,940
companies

1546
01:31:47,940 --> 01:31:51,570
offering users the opportunity
to create their own subgroups

1547
01:31:52,140 --> 01:31:54,690
should make flagging reporting
buttons available on the

1548
01:31:54,690 --> 01:31:56,850
subgroups. And for the most is

1549
01:31:56,850 --> 01:32:00,180
read listen list. Now you're
getting me mad. And there's a

1550
01:32:00,180 --> 01:32:03,630
column and this is my Monday
calling magazine how stupid this

1551
01:32:03,630 --> 01:32:07,530
is. You can have every blog and
every comment stream and

1552
01:32:07,530 --> 01:32:10,620
everything does have a flagging
by the moment.

1553
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:15,450
And for the moderators to remove
content. So we need to have

1554
01:32:15,450 --> 01:32:16,710
nots, you can if that's what

1555
01:32:16,710 --> 01:32:24,480
moderators can do already. Yeah.
Nazis. moderators, moderate, for

1556
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:29,700
a reason to terrorism, if
somebody comes on the blog and

1557
01:32:29,700 --> 01:32:30,630
says, You suck.

1558
01:32:30,870 --> 01:32:34,350
Well, this is interesting,
because I'm glad you asked me

1559
01:32:34,350 --> 01:32:38,220
that question. They're
terrorizing me. Here it is. So

1560
01:32:38,220 --> 01:32:42,300
now they know. So the calling
for this advisory organization,

1561
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,760
which will determine all of
these things. This is the

1562
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,240
ministry of appropriate
freedoms. The organization will

1563
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,930
provide research and advice on
terrorist and other content

1564
01:32:51,930 --> 01:32:56,850
which is recognized as dangerous
throughout the EU and in each

1565
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:02,640
individual country. They would
be legislation, the organization

1566
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:06,660
should provide advice on
legislation and jurisprudence,

1567
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,910
academic work on the subject,
material that can be researched

1568
01:33:11,910 --> 01:33:16,860
and use for machine learning,
known terrorist and extremist

1569
01:33:16,860 --> 01:33:20,610
content. And here comes hate
speech.

1570
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:29,820
So that's where you're going to
get kicked off the interwebs is

1571
01:33:29,820 --> 01:33:32,490
because of your hate speech,
because you said something

1572
01:33:32,490 --> 01:33:39,780
hateful, you bullied somebody,
boo hoo hoo. By the way, if

1573
01:33:39,780 --> 01:33:43,050
you're going to join one of the
NGOs, the Nazi group

1574
01:33:43,050 --> 01:33:48,900
organizations, estates here,
specifically governments, legal,

1575
01:33:49,350 --> 01:33:53,550
law enforcement agencies, NGOs,
and internet companies could

1576
01:33:53,550 --> 01:33:58,470
employ or use former terrorists
and victims to reduce

1577
01:33:58,470 --> 01:34:01,860
radicalization online. So
there's a gig in it for you so

1578
01:34:01,860 --> 01:34:09,600
we can flip Yeah. Yeah. Oh,
yeah. So see, had one more

1579
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,270
thing. referral units,

1580
01:34:12,300 --> 01:34:14,370
what are you reading from again,
unless you remind me,

1581
01:34:14,430 --> 01:34:23,280
this is the clean it. Clean it
September 2012. Document for

1582
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,560
best practices and permanent
dialogue.

1583
01:34:26,700 --> 01:34:31,800
And this came from from the
interwebs. Not made came from

1584
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,410
the EU or who's who's the author
of the

1585
01:34:34,440 --> 01:34:38,220
this is the if you I'll give you
the website, hold on a second.

1586
01:34:38,850 --> 01:34:49,950
Is Here it is. Come on mouse.
The URL is clean. It project got

1587
01:34:49,950 --> 01:34:58,920
EU and they have the August. Up
there the August draft. This is

1588
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:03,030
September. This is reducing. So
the most recent article on the

1589
01:35:03,030 --> 01:35:06,210
clean it is reducing the impact
of terrorist use of the

1590
01:35:06,210 --> 01:35:14,910
Internet. And so, September is
not published officially. Now,

1591
01:35:14,910 --> 01:35:16,080
interestingly enough,

1592
01:35:17,550 --> 01:35:20,280
this is how does this differ
from the August? Did you do a

1593
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,320
comparison? Yeah.

1594
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,390
The August was just like, oh
terrorists, you know, using the

1595
01:35:27,390 --> 01:35:30,330
internet, whatever. Now,
radicalizing, no, no, this this

1596
01:35:30,330 --> 01:35:33,930
has specific rules and
regulations are laying out here.

1597
01:35:33,990 --> 01:35:36,840
You should this wasn't just
planted and it's bull crap. And

1598
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,660
it never will appear in the real
document. No, because

1599
01:35:39,660 --> 01:35:44,370
the last time I got one it was
it was published a few weeks

1600
01:35:44,370 --> 01:35:50,250
later, okay. Internet companies
must only ask customers users to

1601
01:35:50,250 --> 01:35:55,110
identify themselves in with
real, real names.

1602
01:35:56,460 --> 01:36:01,350
Oh, wait a minute. Wait a
minute. How can you what are the

1603
01:36:01,350 --> 01:36:05,880
cops doing it? They're gonna be
patrolling the Facebook and the

1604
01:36:06,150 --> 01:36:08,910
Twitter and the friendfinder.
And all the rest of these

1605
01:36:08,910 --> 01:36:11,340
things. They're gonna be using
their real names Adolphus

1606
01:36:11,340 --> 01:36:13,500
sergeant, John Jenkins.

1607
01:36:13,530 --> 01:36:16,710
Well, I'm glad I'm glad you
asked that we have the heading

1608
01:36:16,710 --> 01:36:20,880
virtual policing a virtual
community policing. Let me read

1609
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,550
you some hype. And this, by the
way is all marked up in the show

1610
01:36:23,550 --> 01:36:27,300
notes you can download the PDF.
virtual community policing must

1611
01:36:27,300 --> 01:36:30,510
be used to find and connect to
persons in danger of being

1612
01:36:30,510 --> 01:36:31,440
radicalized.

1613
01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:34,500
There's a whole bunch of just
arrest them and throw them in

1614
01:36:34,500 --> 01:36:37,740
the slammer like we normally do.
Virtual police officers should

1615
01:36:37,740 --> 01:36:40,950
be Hey, I got a better idea. Why
don't we find these people and

1616
01:36:40,950 --> 01:36:43,980
then trick them into pushing a
button it says is a bomb blowing

1617
01:36:43,980 --> 01:36:48,060
up a building that will be well,
virtual? Are we doing most of

1618
01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:51,690
the radicalization ourselves I
mean, well, just cutting out the

1619
01:36:51,690 --> 01:36:53,610
middleman doesn't make sense,
then I'll

1620
01:36:53,610 --> 01:36:57,660
jump straight to point eight
virtual police officers should

1621
01:36:57,660 --> 01:37:01,740
become members in extremist and
terrorist fora as much as

1622
01:37:01,740 --> 01:37:06,330
possible, subscribing to news
mailing lists and alerts etc. To

1623
01:37:06,330 --> 01:37:10,260
be able to detect any terrorist
content or activity. It's saying

1624
01:37:10,260 --> 01:37:14,190
it right there. You have the
virtual police officers have to

1625
01:37:14,220 --> 01:37:19,470
join the terrorist forums, which
they call for. Subscribe to the

1626
01:37:19,470 --> 01:37:22,620
news and news lists and mailing
lists I guess get involved in

1627
01:37:22,620 --> 01:37:27,810
the communities you can then go
bust people. Virtual police

1628
01:37:27,810 --> 01:37:30,780
officers on the other hand
should be easily recognizable

1629
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:34,230
make clear they are real
policemen and use their real

1630
01:37:34,230 --> 01:37:40,380
photos names and various ways to
contact them. Virtual police

1631
01:37:40,380 --> 01:37:44,370
officers should use going to
work virtual police officers

1632
01:37:44,370 --> 01:37:48,480
should use easy to understand
popular language friendly icons

1633
01:37:48,570 --> 01:37:52,020
and profile photographs in order
to lower the threshold of being

1634
01:37:52,020 --> 01:37:55,680
contacted and in order to be
effective in combination with

1635
01:37:55,680 --> 01:38:07,680
the younger users of social
media was up yo brah yo bro guys

1636
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:19,590
anyone lead around here so this
is what's coming and then you

1637
01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:22,200
know what's gonna happen this is
exactly what this is. You know

1638
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:25,050
there's no stopping this and
this is also going to be used

1639
01:38:25,050 --> 01:38:30,780
for intellectual property. Yeah,
this is going to be used to curb

1640
01:38:30,780 --> 01:38:33,660
your free speech which you
already don't have certainly not

1641
01:38:33,660 --> 01:38:36,450
in Europe. You know, because
then you might be practicing

1642
01:38:36,450 --> 01:38:38,100
hate speech. No, I

1643
01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:40,620
hate speech I hate I hate hate
you suck

1644
01:38:44,310 --> 01:38:46,770
now here in the United States,
you suck hate speech. It's

1645
01:38:46,770 --> 01:38:52,530
totally hate speech. here and
get more nation proper AT and T

1646
01:38:54,060 --> 01:38:58,620
has now announced that in
November, they will start on

1647
01:38:58,620 --> 01:39:03,240
their Uverse with the six
strikes in your out policy. And

1648
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:07,260
it looks like everyone else is
joining in on this. So if you

1649
01:39:07,260 --> 01:39:11,040
download in November 28
customers whose accounts are

1650
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,890
repeatedly flagged there you go
there's the flagging already

1651
01:39:14,070 --> 01:39:17,430
sneaking in for alleged
copyright infringement which

1652
01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:20,910
means downloading something will
have their access to frequently

1653
01:39:20,910 --> 01:39:24,300
visited websites blocked until
they complete an online

1654
01:39:24,300 --> 01:39:29,580
copyright course. Internet your
speakers just a little bit John.

1655
01:39:29,730 --> 01:39:32,520
Just a tad. Just coming back.

1656
01:39:32,550 --> 01:39:36,090
This is a reminds me of traffic
school.

1657
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:41,820
It's exactly the same as traffic
school. And an 18 t's U verse is

1658
01:39:41,820 --> 01:39:47,430
not the only one that's going to
do this Time Warner I'm also we

1659
01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:51,810
have we have the what's the
other cable outfit?

1660
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:55,260
Time where Comcast Comcast Yeah,

1661
01:39:55,290 --> 01:39:58,230
they're gonna do it. Verizon.
Everyone's jumping on the

1662
01:39:58,230 --> 01:40:02,700
bandwagon, November 28. Is when
everyone's going to start

1663
01:40:02,700 --> 01:40:07,770
Cablevision, Comcast Time Warner
and Verizon and if you if you

1664
01:40:07,770 --> 01:40:14,040
download something illegally
more than six times then you

1665
01:40:14,070 --> 01:40:18,360
then you will basically only get
a web page that says you have to

1666
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:24,300
complete the copyright course.
Which is just like traffic

1667
01:40:24,300 --> 01:40:25,080
school. You're right.

1668
01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:28,350
Yeah, and you knew what that
means. These are what the scam

1669
01:40:28,350 --> 01:40:29,490
is I'll tell you why. Right now

1670
01:40:29,490 --> 01:40:31,680
where you're worried about some
money. It's a money scam.

1671
01:40:31,710 --> 01:40:34,890
Exactly. This course is going to
cost John or

1672
01:40:34,890 --> 01:40:38,010
dollars. Why don't we set the
course of where we should be

1673
01:40:38,010 --> 01:40:38,370
headed. The

1674
01:40:38,670 --> 01:40:47,460
first thing I thought of is is
air some money we need something

1675
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:52,140
Yeah, we do. I'm gonna show my
mood by donating to no agenda.

1676
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:55,320
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

1677
01:41:02,700 --> 01:41:05,130
we do a few people think we want
to thank them right now.

1678
01:41:05,910 --> 01:41:11,190
Beginning with Keisha? Right for
the $150 and no comment. I

1679
01:41:11,190 --> 01:41:13,950
couldn't find one in the email
either Murray stone and stone

1680
01:41:13,950 --> 01:41:17,160
Vermont. Just town is actually
named after him.

1681
01:41:17,550 --> 01:41:20,820
Cool. Yeah, and that's not a
coincidence.

1682
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:25,260
$100 Here's a small donation as
you can keep up your good work

1683
01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:27,600
so you can keep up the good work
I started listening in after

1684
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,570
realizing that grumpy guy on
Twitter just might know a thing

1685
01:41:30,570 --> 01:41:34,200
or two. I do like your
commercial free value for value

1686
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,500
business model and hope you can
continue at least until the end

1687
01:41:37,500 --> 01:41:42,030
of the world as we know it.
Which is coming up my dad pretty

1688
01:41:42,030 --> 01:41:44,700
short. I'd like some random
karma

1689
01:41:45,570 --> 01:41:46,800
random karma it is.

1690
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:48,870
You've got karma.

1691
01:41:50,460 --> 01:41:54,120
Michael Henry in Snellville
Georgia $100 Thanks again for

1692
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:55,890
the best podcast in the
universe. Here's a small

1693
01:41:55,890 --> 01:41:59,700
donation to help keep Y'all good
with your better halves a karma

1694
01:41:59,700 --> 01:42:03,180
and one hot meal for the dames
out there from Sir Michael Henry

1695
01:42:03,180 --> 01:42:07,470
and Sir Michael sorry. From
Snellville. That's one hot now.

1696
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,310
You've got karma.

1697
01:42:13,950 --> 01:42:17,880
And our Baron of record in
Belgium.

1698
01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:21,840
Oh, well. The Baron is back
while he was back. All right.

1699
01:42:21,870 --> 01:42:25,500
Awesome. Good. I guess the
divorce finalized. Baron van

1700
01:42:25,500 --> 01:42:30,180
Pels, mockers. Especial donation
on today's episode of the Best

1701
01:42:30,180 --> 01:42:33,300
podcast in university 555 for
pre celebrating five years of

1702
01:42:33,300 --> 01:42:35,550
the best fun I've had while
commuting to and from work,

1703
01:42:35,910 --> 01:42:39,510
including the DSC and a 4444 to
wish myself a happy birthday in

1704
01:42:39,510 --> 01:42:43,020
the same this next Monday. We do
have them on the list. I would

1705
01:42:43,020 --> 01:42:45,120
like to request a little karma
in order to help me find a

1706
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:48,810
perfect new home soon. Keep up
the great work and as Adam said,

1707
01:42:49,110 --> 01:42:56,370
always Judy zo van der BGF lezen
Don vert Jeff, in de lager,

1708
01:42:56,370 --> 01:43:03,600
Landon Onga, Val de vich, Roy,
John ROG Amara and Bobby

1709
01:43:06,900 --> 01:43:09,750
There's nothing funnier than
making you say stuff in Dutch.

1710
01:43:10,830 --> 01:43:15,240
And you really you and you're
really pretty good. So it was an

1711
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:20,130
I in a J It's an A that's the
only thing so it will be blame

1712
01:43:20,130 --> 01:43:23,550
shift to whenever you whenever
you see the hours the word okay

1713
01:43:23,700 --> 01:43:27,840
you see the ferriter bleibt lace
and so you see the the air their

1714
01:43:27,870 --> 01:43:31,350
life delays and right now read
the one after life along the

1715
01:43:32,970 --> 01:43:36,210
line on the way well

1716
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,730
fell over trifled on good

1717
01:43:38,730 --> 01:43:43,770
trifled on the trifled vit
Rotella for turtles Very good.

1718
01:43:44,670 --> 01:43:47,400
You know it's much much better
than you think you know.

1719
01:43:49,050 --> 01:43:50,880
I should take the language at a
small course.

1720
01:43:50,910 --> 01:43:55,470
Yeah, let me just let me hit let
me hit karma. Karma this little

1721
01:43:55,470 --> 01:43:56,340
karma from the Baron

1722
01:43:57,900 --> 01:44:01,020
Toby knots in Kenilworth
Illinois. That's the little

1723
01:44:01,020 --> 01:44:05,010
ritzy town just north of
Chicago. 3333 in honor of

1724
01:44:05,010 --> 01:44:09,540
1011 12 plus 3535. Can I get a
look over here plus a double

1725
01:44:09,540 --> 01:44:12,840
tap? Looking forward to joining
the order of knights shortly.

1726
01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:15,240
Peace Love no home or big hair
Toby?

1727
01:44:17,190 --> 01:44:20,670
Don't look over here. Nothing to
see. Look.

1728
01:44:23,070 --> 01:44:24,750
You've got karma.

1729
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:25,800
I like that combo.

1730
01:44:26,190 --> 01:44:31,050
That's a good combo. Joseph
hatch in Springfield Virginie Oh

1731
01:44:31,500 --> 01:44:41,970
6969 My prediction was wrong. We
got more 60 Niners so I'm

1732
01:44:42,870 --> 01:44:47,130
getting Suazo knifes keeping the
dream alive just getting by both

1733
01:44:47,130 --> 01:44:51,210
of you keep up the great work is
also my birthday. Turning 33

1734
01:44:51,210 --> 01:44:54,210
today can I get a citizen to do
the head getting laid karma I'm

1735
01:44:54,210 --> 01:44:58,860
getting the needed for the year
just find out. This week my wife

1736
01:44:58,860 --> 01:45:02,460
is going to have our third baby
Maybe she's pissed that our

1737
01:45:02,460 --> 01:45:04,500
three year old says Shut up
slave.

1738
01:45:07,140 --> 01:45:13,590
He says oops. That's very funny
actually. Okay. Hey citizen, a

1739
01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:16,290
citizen. Double tap citizen

1740
01:45:19,500 --> 01:45:21,000
karma. I added that.

1741
01:45:22,740 --> 01:45:27,090
Brian Williams Streamwood
Illinois 6969. No comment. Larry

1742
01:45:27,090 --> 01:45:30,480
and Kara 6969 Wish we could
donate sooner Better late than

1743
01:45:30,480 --> 01:45:34,050
never. I propagate the formula
and hit my husband in the mouth

1744
01:45:34,050 --> 01:45:39,840
now he's addicted and propagates
to we're sending 3333 times to

1745
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:42,420
for tickets to the mothership.
Because when the shit hits the

1746
01:45:42,420 --> 01:45:46,290
fan, we're too old to head for
the hills and 6969 for the best

1747
01:45:46,290 --> 01:45:50,550
podcast in the universe. She's
they actually sent in another

1748
01:45:50,550 --> 01:45:55,950
6666 On top of this one. All
right, cool. Can we get a we

1749
01:45:55,950 --> 01:46:00,240
want to show our support by
donating to na de douching and

1750
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:03,570
karma and possible another karma
for my husband's boss, Bob?

1751
01:46:04,350 --> 01:46:06,180
Who's, unfortunately got
Parkinson's.

1752
01:46:06,270 --> 01:46:11,040
Okay, well, here it comes.
You're gonna you've been d do a

1753
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:16,410
big fat karma for everything you
need. You've got karma. Just can

1754
01:46:16,410 --> 01:46:18,480
you lower the speakers just a
tad more, or,

1755
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:22,590
This is a funny irony to this.
Uh, for one thing, you shouldn't

1756
01:46:22,590 --> 01:46:24,900
be hearing the speakers because
they got the mic set up in such

1757
01:46:24,900 --> 01:46:27,750
a way. So I don't know where
that echoes coming from. But

1758
01:46:27,780 --> 01:46:32,730
one, the mumble configuration
volume control doesn't do

1759
01:46:32,730 --> 01:46:38,550
anything. And the system volume
controls doesn't do anything.

1760
01:46:38,850 --> 01:46:39,690
Doesn't do anything. So

1761
01:46:39,690 --> 01:46:42,450
you can't actually turn down the
volume. No,

1762
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,480
I can't change the volume at
all. I can't even mute it.

1763
01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:47,310
Really? Yeah.

1764
01:46:47,849 --> 01:46:51,059
Because I because I'm hearing my
voice come back and I can see

1765
01:46:51,059 --> 01:46:53,369
it's coming from you because I
can see the European

1766
01:46:53,370 --> 01:46:55,950
ones possibly coming from me but
it's it's awfully sensitive

1767
01:46:55,950 --> 01:46:59,070
because it never has before and
whatever. Whatever stuck with

1768
01:46:59,070 --> 01:46:59,430
it. No,

1769
01:46:59,460 --> 01:47:02,490
it's alright, because what I've
done here is I've just added a

1770
01:47:02,490 --> 01:47:06,180
little more gate. So you have to
make sure you're talking to the

1771
01:47:06,180 --> 01:47:07,140
mic otherwise you're not

1772
01:47:07,830 --> 01:47:14,040
talking into the mic now. Is
this good? Yeah. What? Scott in

1773
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:18,750
Leesburg, Virginia. 6969 I
haven't been getting any 6969

1774
01:47:18,750 --> 01:47:20,370
action lately, and I couldn't
bear

1775
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:24,660
one. What? Oh, boy. He's not
getting any 69 action. That

1776
01:47:24,660 --> 01:47:25,230
sucks. Ah,

1777
01:47:25,290 --> 01:47:28,290
I couldn't bear the thought of
you suffering the same fate.

1778
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:32,640
Please send a double tap striker
to the drone loving drones with

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whom I work. By the way. There's
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wants

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a douchebag to to the head. Let
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it.

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Anyway, there's a bunch of
people out there that you taught

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bring up the drones thing. Yeah.
Well, you know, we had to

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protect Americans. Seriously,
it's weird.

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Well, they are programmed. The
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great success.

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and chat. Here's my Swasey
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John Adams he was 100% correct
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Adam. Please send me some 6969
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matters. Please keep up the
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US Canucks have been stepping it
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some four year coming up.
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You've got karma

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I got some.

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Port Jefferson New York 6969 I
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just my Italian Shut up slave.
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with my mouth shut please give
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hopefully it has been sitting in
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all my Long Island no agenda
karma. Yeah, we

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both screwed this one up. That
was dumb. By the way, that

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is slip town is pronounced
Islip.

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Islip. Yeah, I should have known
I should have known a lot

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better.

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Honestly, it's the airport when
you fly in at some point. Okay.

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All right. Here's the karma.
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do it. You've got

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karma. Why do I say Islam? Why,
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that's a correction I can't
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you can't get that right John
Jehovah, just close your eyes.

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Alright, I'm gonna anchor you
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Islip, Islip, Islip you'll never
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Iceland, Sir Michael Miller in
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over? He asks, apparently not.
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though. John Heller, Missouri
Missoula, Montana 6969 In

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Letterman country. Some of this
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Miss Mickey for quitting
smoking. Hey, congrats and spend

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01:50:44,670 --> 01:50:47,070
some new spending on some new
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laughing two weeks ago as you
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I get excited on Sundays and
Thursdays. Awaiting the days

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deconstruction I just attended a
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author of UFOs the untold truth.
He calls it a government cover

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up for unknown reasons. But are
you two rational thinkers think

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about you have was you kidding
me? They're real. Of course. I

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don't believe it. Oh, karma or
anything. He's retired. But he

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is the last on the list of 6969

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that totally that has to kill it
now. Sir. 6969

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segment. No, that's, I can't
Well, maybe somebody else will

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come in one more time. I just
can't see this. This is almost

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been a year. Since Carrie shun
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thing.

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It's been a year really a year.

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I think it's almost I have an
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I'm gonna dig through and I'll
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pronounce Dutch names if you can
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gotten this right Higgins
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Milk Baby doing good karma we're
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was karmic for us. Oh, okay.
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You've got karma.

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North Carolina. Pity five to
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the fifth anniversary. Really
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you provide. As an aside the
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hear on the local triangle area
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people see the underwriting and
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hitting them in the mouth at
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Australia. Thanks for the best
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I think it's Ross Trevor. I
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lot simpler than I said Ross
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Ross, Trevor? Ed. James doubting
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behind on listing and I haven't
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caught up to the episode where
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behind. Glad to say I'm all
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you know what's really ashamed
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episode will be off the air.

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anniversary from the sounds of
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six months, slick media LLC and
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know 50 And that's what we got
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of people who contribute to the
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received the it was an
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through as an attachment on the
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new clean it document so that
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and be reading at the same time
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show notes a real tour de force.
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A for

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you hit the jingle there can you
give Christopher lemon some

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gratuitous karma for being he's
gonna get evicted? Oh,

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where did this come in on the on
the emails? Nice. It's

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it's an email. Yeah,

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well, we don't want them
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You've got karma.

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We kick it off with our very own
Baron of Belgium. Baron Steven

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Bomb pal Smotrich wretches
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tomorrow Joseph hatch turns 3314
today that Fizzers says Happy

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Birthday to her husband Patrick.
He turned 33 Yesterday happy

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birthday from all your buddies
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universe. And then we have two
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people are becoming 1011 12
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couple more of the 1212 12 of
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before the end of the year
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wonderful night ring package. So
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there, John. Hello. Thomas Wyler
stepped forward. And Kim please

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step forward that is Kim is
receiving the damn hood I

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presume from Sir Tyler Fox. So
thank you very much for your

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donation in the amount of $1,000
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the group on the no agenda
roundtable nights and Dan's

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please stand by as I hereby
pronounce the Sir Thomas and

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night and day of the no agenda
roundtable your horse and low

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rent boys and Chardonnay guy
says and Saki actually Mickey

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made me say geishas and sakeI
she said I was saying we were

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01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:08,250
saying it wrong. It's Geisha
night, not

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geisha. And there was a geisha?

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01:59:10,500 --> 01:59:16,080
I guess I did and I knocked off
my crap. My light fell off my

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01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:18,390
desk when I was so excited when
I do these knighthoods. I

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01:59:18,390 --> 01:59:18,750
actually

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01:59:18,750 --> 01:59:23,070
would like to be in the dark
when you podcast I do. Like in a

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cave,

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01:59:23,700 --> 01:59:27,390
but I actually have a Oh man it
broke. Oh crap.

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01:59:28,140 --> 01:59:31,350
I can't see your keyboard it
turn the light on in the in the

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room.

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01:59:32,190 --> 01:59:35,460
Well, you know, the thing is I
have a light that actually just

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01:59:35,550 --> 01:59:40,740
is clipped onto the monitor. And
when I do these knighthoods, I

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01:59:40,740 --> 01:59:44,370
actually I waved my arms. Yeah,
I am doing the whole chunking

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01:59:44,370 --> 01:59:49,020
thing. I know I'm getting all
wild and stuff. And so I knocked

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01:59:49,020 --> 01:59:51,600
the light off and broke the
whole attachment. When I was

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01:59:51,870 --> 01:59:54,300
reminded I'm walking down the
street and there's some woman

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01:59:54,300 --> 01:59:58,050
sitting on a park bench on her
cell phone yakking at some and

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01:59:58,050 --> 02:00:01,200
she's wiggling her arms all over
the place. He says if this

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02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:04,950
gesticulating actually is being
communicated somehow magically

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over the phone

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well that's pretty much me John
just like that. I'm just sticky

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02:00:09,150 --> 02:00:14,460
lating so I promised some
Canadian content here it is

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02:00:14,490 --> 02:00:18,180
page dedicated to Amanda Todd's
memory the bullies have found

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02:00:18,180 --> 02:00:23,310
her again. The news below it
rest in peace Amanda laugh out

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02:00:23,310 --> 02:00:27,270
loud. I'm so happy she's dead
now wrote another who identified

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02:00:27,270 --> 02:00:30,810
herself as a classmate and
pictures the one that teen wish

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02:00:30,810 --> 02:00:35,160
she'd never shared, posted over
and over again. Police

1984
02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:38,970
investigating her death are now
also investigating this

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02:00:39,150 --> 02:00:40,620
gathering evidence

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02:00:41,279 --> 02:00:44,009
to potential so you clearly you
need a little setup to this

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02:00:44,009 --> 02:00:47,639
clip. This is about Amanda Todd.
And there's a reason why I'm

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02:00:47,639 --> 02:00:51,239
playing this clip Amanda Todd
who killed herself after being

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02:00:51,239 --> 02:00:56,159
cyber bullied to a Canadian
really identify an individual

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02:00:56,159 --> 02:00:59,519
that may in some way have played
a role in her ultimately making

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02:00:59,519 --> 02:01:00,539
this terrible decision.

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02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:06,960
This is Amanda Todd just weeks
ago in flashcards detailing a

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02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:11,550
teenage mistake. A nude photo
sent in trust than broadcast for

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02:01:11,550 --> 02:01:16,560
all to ridicule. She changed
homes she changed schools but

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02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:20,550
the internet bullies wouldn't
allow the gossip to die. This 15

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02:01:20,550 --> 02:01:23,790
year old killed herself
Wednesday. Her mother said she's

1997
02:01:23,790 --> 02:01:27,120
proud her daughter made that
video. She didn't want anyone to

1998
02:01:27,120 --> 02:01:33,480
feel the pain that she felt she
had the biggest part. It changes

1999
02:01:33,510 --> 02:01:37,980
your life forever. If anyone
understands this pain Alan cube

2000
02:01:37,980 --> 02:01:41,790
Lee does his son Jamie was
bullied. Last October the 15

2001
02:01:41,790 --> 02:01:45,120
year old killed himself Hubler
has been fighting for change

2002
02:01:45,180 --> 02:01:46,050
ever since

2003
02:01:46,590 --> 02:01:50,820
people in British Columbia will
come together and just say to

2004
02:01:50,820 --> 02:01:54,210
the bullies that it's over. The
game's up stop

2005
02:01:54,510 --> 02:01:58,140
cyberbullying and sexting our
words experts say need to become

2006
02:01:58,140 --> 02:02:01,980
part of all Canadians
vocabulary, advice for parents,

2007
02:02:02,010 --> 02:02:05,910
educate your kids, remind them
what goes online stays online.

2008
02:02:06,450 --> 02:02:09,030
Just like they teach kids about
being street smart and street

2009
02:02:09,030 --> 02:02:11,370
safety. They can teach you about
cyber safety.

2010
02:02:11,670 --> 02:02:15,630
While police investigate how and
why Amanda Todd died B C's

2011
02:02:15,630 --> 02:02:18,840
Premier is calling for change,
potentially making cyber

2012
02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:22,710
bullying a criminal offense.
Identifying and punishing kids

2013
02:02:22,770 --> 02:02:23,880
who hurt kids.

2014
02:02:24,060 --> 02:02:27,720
Ah, there you go. There you go.
It is a will become a criminal

2015
02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:33,180
offence to bully online. And are
you still with me, John? Yeah.

2016
02:02:33,210 --> 02:02:37,050
Okay. I would like to remind
everyone that we have seen this

2017
02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:40,890
happen over and over again,
where kids get cyber bullied,

2018
02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:46,170
and then they wind up committing
suicide. Usually the lawyers who

2019
02:02:46,170 --> 02:02:49,590
come out for this are
representing certain other

2020
02:02:49,590 --> 02:02:53,190
entities, because what is not
being told in this story I show

2021
02:02:53,220 --> 02:02:56,220
and I want to do whenever I read
this, whenever I read teen kills

2022
02:02:56,220 --> 02:03:00,330
himself, because of bullying. I
immediately Google for the

2023
02:03:00,330 --> 02:03:03,060
following. And here it is.
Amanda's bullying continued

2024
02:03:03,060 --> 02:03:07,830
despite moving to a new city,
antidepressants, and counseling

2025
02:03:07,830 --> 02:03:11,850
did little to combat the severe
depression. What happens is

2026
02:03:11,850 --> 02:03:15,900
these kids, they, of course,
they they become depressed. And

2027
02:03:15,900 --> 02:03:18,240
you know, there's all kinds of,
you know, it sucks to be

2028
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:21,060
bullied, you know, this is when
parents need to step up. You

2029
02:03:21,060 --> 02:03:25,140
need to help your child not take
them to the doctor and put them

2030
02:03:25,140 --> 02:03:29,190
on the drugs where the
commercial literally says may

2031
02:03:29,220 --> 02:03:34,680
induce suicide, thoughts of
suicide in young people. These

2032
02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:37,020
kids are killing themselves
because you put them on the

2033
02:03:37,020 --> 02:03:41,280
drugs that make them kill
themselves. Stop doing this. It

2034
02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:45,780
is not the cyber bullying. It is
the drugs that are supposedly

2035
02:03:45,810 --> 02:03:49,560
helping them against their
depression. Stop giving your

2036
02:03:49,560 --> 02:04:01,170
children these drugs copies of
the day. You can Google it every

2037
02:04:01,170 --> 02:04:01,890
single time.

2038
02:04:02,220 --> 02:04:05,340
Yeah, I think you're probably
right. It makes sense.

2039
02:04:06,269 --> 02:04:09,599
You remember the we had the big
one here in America. And then

2040
02:04:09,599 --> 02:04:13,289
the lawyers who showed up were
were lawyers for pharmaceutical

2041
02:04:13,289 --> 02:04:18,209
companies. Because they want to
steer these poor parents in the

2042
02:04:18,209 --> 02:04:21,179
direction of odd cyber bullying.
We need laws against cyber

2043
02:04:21,179 --> 02:04:24,569
bullying which of course will
completely shut down free speech

2044
02:04:24,659 --> 02:04:28,319
because it'll be hate speech or
or the terrorism speech or

2045
02:04:28,319 --> 02:04:32,159
radicalization speech or
whatever it is. Please wait

2046
02:04:32,189 --> 02:04:35,219
whatever you do don't look at
the the antidepressants we had

2047
02:04:35,219 --> 02:04:37,979
the kid on don't look at the
meds that had nothing to do with

2048
02:04:37,979 --> 02:04:38,309
it

2049
02:04:44,790 --> 02:04:48,480
yeah, I'm thinking that's
probably right. Yeah, good job

2050
02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:53,010
somebody up and dopamine weird
out and that's in especially

2051
02:04:53,010 --> 02:04:54,270
kids. She's only 15

2052
02:04:54,389 --> 02:04:58,109
Yeah. And don't don't the
commercial specifically say

2053
02:04:58,230 --> 02:05:00,630
yeah, no, they do we play those
commercials. oscillators all the

2054
02:05:00,630 --> 02:05:01,350
disclaimers,

2055
02:05:01,830 --> 02:05:05,160
they say specifically may cause
suicidal thoughts in young

2056
02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:05,640
people.

2057
02:05:10,710 --> 02:05:13,410
Okay, well that's your Canadian
news, ladies and gentlemen, we

2058
02:05:13,410 --> 02:05:14,520
try to stay upbeat.

2059
02:05:16,410 --> 02:05:21,390
How's that working out? How's
that working out for you? All

2060
02:05:21,390 --> 02:05:21,780
right.

2061
02:05:23,490 --> 02:05:26,790
I got a couple of interesting
items. These are like, old

2062
02:05:26,790 --> 02:05:31,380
stories that were never reported
that I remember. Because they

2063
02:05:31,380 --> 02:05:33,420
were all new when I watched
them. It's what I didn't know.

2064
02:05:33,420 --> 02:05:36,750
This is why I didn't know that.
Now. Here's a couple of them.

2065
02:05:36,750 --> 02:05:40,740
Let's go through Omega three.
How about the weird Gore Bush

2066
02:05:40,740 --> 02:05:44,670
debate anecdote? Now let me set
this up. They were discussing

2067
02:05:44,670 --> 02:05:47,910
with some consultants what you
know how you set you know, your

2068
02:05:48,060 --> 02:05:51,240
How do you do practice for the
debates and all the rest of it.

2069
02:05:51,750 --> 02:05:55,200
And these consultants dropped a
little bombshell in here that I

2070
02:05:55,200 --> 02:06:01,650
had no idea. This was during the
Bush Gore debates of 2000. I

2071
02:06:02,100 --> 02:06:05,010
keep up with the news. I never
heard this story ever, ever see

2072
02:06:05,010 --> 02:06:08,490
videotape of this. You don't
even see pictures. No. There's

2073
02:06:08,490 --> 02:06:11,280
there's a reason why you don't
want you don't want to show

2074
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:14,010
those vulnerable moments. We
don't want to give away any

2075
02:06:14,010 --> 02:06:17,550
component to our prep in the
2000 campaign, one of McKinnon

2076
02:06:17,550 --> 02:06:21,720
secretaries gave Bush debate
prep video to the Gore campaign.

2077
02:06:21,780 --> 02:06:25,380
The Gore campaign very smartly
went right to the FBI. And what

2078
02:06:25,380 --> 02:06:25,620
happened

2079
02:06:25,620 --> 02:06:27,540
to her? She went to prison for a
year.

2080
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:30,900
Well, I remember that wasn't
that they were getting it off of

2081
02:06:30,900 --> 02:06:33,780
the off of the satellite off of
the raw feed was not what how

2082
02:06:33,780 --> 02:06:38,400
they were obtaining that video.
That's illegal. I'm just saying

2083
02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:38,790
that's

2084
02:06:39,900 --> 02:06:42,960
no, apparently they had some
tapes. And this woman who I

2085
02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:46,020
guess was a double agent for the
campaign, if you want to call it

2086
02:06:46,020 --> 02:06:49,440
that. She gives us stuff over
the Gore campaign. They call the

2087
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:52,110
FBI. They throw the woman in
prison for doing what?

2088
02:06:53,430 --> 02:06:55,050
For stealing the sex tape.

2089
02:06:55,590 --> 02:06:57,660
I mean, really, what was there
something more to this, this

2090
02:06:57,660 --> 02:06:58,680
doesn't sound right.

2091
02:07:00,390 --> 02:07:03,390
Well, it's theft, I guess you
can call it. I mean, all these

2092
02:07:03,390 --> 02:07:06,000
you know, the DNC, the RNC,
they're incorporated, they're

2093
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:10,140
corporations. So that's
industrial theft, industrial

2094
02:07:10,140 --> 02:07:11,220
espionage.

2095
02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:14,640
So meanwhile, there's this story
that's floating around, which

2096
02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:17,010
had mainstream media didn't pick
up on I think it's just a

2097
02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:21,780
provocative, provocative action
taking place. This came off of I

2098
02:07:21,780 --> 02:07:25,530
think, the Chinese news. This is
a simulated drill that's going

2099
02:07:25,530 --> 02:07:29,280
to take place with the United
States, working with Japan and

2100
02:07:29,310 --> 02:07:31,080
tell me what you think this
might be about.

2101
02:07:31,380 --> 02:07:35,970
The Japanese newspapers Sanchay
Shimbun reports that the US and

2102
02:07:35,970 --> 02:07:40,980
Japan will hold joint military
drills in November, near and in

2103
02:07:40,980 --> 02:07:45,870
and in inhabited make Abaddon
inhabited island in Okinawa

2104
02:07:45,870 --> 02:07:50,220
Prefecture. Naval land and air
forces from both countries are

2105
02:07:50,220 --> 02:07:54,660
expected to participate in the
drills, which reportedly aimed

2106
02:07:54,660 --> 02:08:00,120
at simulating the retaking of an
island occupied by enemy forces.

2107
02:08:01,170 --> 02:08:03,030
Hmm, gee,

2108
02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:05,940
that might be about Well,

2109
02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:08,880
a couple of things are so we got
to keep these Chinese in check.

2110
02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:11,550
Because these trainers are doing
some really bad stuff they are.

2111
02:08:11,790 --> 02:08:14,880
There is an all out assault on
our Petrodollar by the Chinese.

2112
02:08:15,540 --> 02:08:19,140
They are making their own deals
outside of the US petro dollar

2113
02:08:19,140 --> 02:08:21,960
system, whatever they had, like
10 countries now they're doing

2114
02:08:21,960 --> 02:08:25,890
the doing oil deals with we got
it. We got to check these guys.

2115
02:08:26,460 --> 02:08:30,120
And now the movement in Toledo
they're in Ohio. They're all

2116
02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:30,330
over

2117
02:08:30,330 --> 02:08:35,970
Africa. Forget Toledo. We got
taken over Toledo. No Holy

2118
02:08:35,970 --> 02:08:36,690
Toledo.

2119
02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:39,750
We got to let these Chinese know
that. You know, you can't mess

2120
02:08:39,750 --> 02:08:40,620
with us that way.

2121
02:08:41,370 --> 02:08:44,670
And then there's this and then
there's this clip, which this is

2122
02:08:44,670 --> 02:08:48,900
the set this up. This is the odd
TEPCO this analysis.

2123
02:08:48,930 --> 02:08:51,660
This is just a clip of Palooza
you're laying out on me here

2124
02:08:52,020 --> 02:08:53,730
Killip a palooza, this is

2125
02:08:54,660 --> 02:08:57,630
this I didn't realize I think we
may have talked about I don't

2126
02:08:57,630 --> 02:09:01,620
remember this specifically. But
they're reanalyzing they had an

2127
02:09:01,620 --> 02:09:05,340
independent panel look at the
meltdown of the reactors in

2128
02:09:05,340 --> 02:09:10,860
Japan. And by the way, you do I
just want to remind some of our

2129
02:09:10,860 --> 02:09:13,320
listeners who were all panicky
about these things we're gonna

2130
02:09:13,320 --> 02:09:17,550
blow up Oh, no, there's fake
reports that were put out there

2131
02:09:17,550 --> 02:09:20,640
that were supposed to like bite
into like, you know, some other

2132
02:09:20,910 --> 02:09:23,970
deconstruction shows might have
done the mean like,

2133
02:09:25,290 --> 02:09:27,900
you mean like people getting
Geiger counters to check their

2134
02:09:27,900 --> 02:09:29,790
sushi. John, is that what you're
talking about?

2135
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:38,640
Ready now this is this. I did
not know. You ready? I did not

2136
02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:40,740
know. I didn't want to talk
about this after we hit it.

2137
02:09:40,770 --> 02:09:41,040
Okay.

2138
02:09:41,130 --> 02:09:45,240
And still with news from Japan.
The head of Tokyo Electric Power

2139
02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:50,580
companies new independent panel
says the company blew it on

2140
02:09:50,580 --> 02:09:54,810
nuclear plant safety. It was the
first time the company had

2141
02:09:54,810 --> 02:09:58,710
admitted that last year's
Nuclear Crisis was was

2142
02:09:58,740 --> 02:09:59,520
avoidable.

2143
02:10:00,870 --> 02:10:04,650
The operators should have known,
if certain things happen, they

2144
02:10:04,650 --> 02:10:08,760
vent. If certain things happen
to add sea water, I can assure

2145
02:10:08,760 --> 02:10:12,930
you in the United States, if
they had an issue of reactor

2146
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:16,590
cooling where the core was about
to become uncovered, the

2147
02:10:16,590 --> 02:10:19,260
operators would not call the CEO
of the company and they

2148
02:10:19,260 --> 02:10:21,990
certainly would not call the
president of United States and

2149
02:10:21,990 --> 02:10:23,850
ask could they do that they
would do it

2150
02:10:25,470 --> 02:10:29,550
so what he's saying is he didn't
come out and out and say it but

2151
02:10:29,820 --> 02:10:34,140
apparently the guys running
these reactors that think is

2152
02:10:34,140 --> 02:10:37,410
falling apart and the guy says,
What are we going to do? We can

2153
02:10:37,410 --> 02:10:39,810
follow up procedures No, let's
call the boss

2154
02:10:40,050 --> 02:10:42,540
well that's exactly how it
works. They're in Japan that's

2155
02:10:42,540 --> 02:10:43,500
the whole culture.

2156
02:10:43,770 --> 02:10:47,160
Yeah. So they call the boss and
I guess they call the Prime

2157
02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:52,260
Minister somebody the premier I
mean, they wouldn't they didn't

2158
02:10:52,290 --> 02:10:56,010
just take care of it. This is
really a flaw in certain Asian

2159
02:10:56,010 --> 02:10:59,010
cultures. I may miss this like

2160
02:10:59,100 --> 02:11:01,350
so what I'm not right but what
I'm not getting from the report

2161
02:11:01,350 --> 02:11:05,040
is did they get through to the
boss or the Premier and what was

2162
02:11:05,040 --> 02:11:05,760
the answer?

2163
02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:09,150
Well, I don't know if they did
it. See it sounds to me that the

2164
02:11:09,150 --> 02:11:14,850
guy wasn't home. Well, hey, let
it melt down until he gets home.

2165
02:11:14,850 --> 02:11:15,810
Hey, Jenson,

2166
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:19,230
no one's home man what are we
gonna do? I don't know dude.

2167
02:11:19,470 --> 02:11:21,930
Call again called the Prime
Minister cell number.

2168
02:11:24,330 --> 02:11:27,690
Puts posted on Twitter man, I
don't know we gotta get through.

2169
02:11:28,590 --> 02:11:31,410
So I have one other one. That's
a little tidbit that is just

2170
02:11:31,410 --> 02:11:36,840
completely alien. To me. This is
something of a long clip. But it

2171
02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:39,930
adds a little piece of a
fundamental piece of information

2172
02:11:39,930 --> 02:11:42,810
that I think we need to know on
this show. And apparently the

2173
02:11:42,810 --> 02:11:47,880
French especially with Oh lawned
are in really intend to be one

2174
02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:50,340
of the players that I don't
know. I guess they got this pair

2175
02:11:50,340 --> 02:11:53,070
up their ass. They want to be
now one of the players in

2176
02:11:53,070 --> 02:11:53,940
Africa.

2177
02:11:54,510 --> 02:11:57,870
Before we play the clip, can I
answer your question? Sure. The

2178
02:11:57,870 --> 02:12:01,440
hair up your ass analogies. An
interesting one? Is this

2179
02:12:01,440 --> 02:12:03,960
something that actually has
happened to you? Or have you

2180
02:12:04,110 --> 02:12:06,990
witnessed it's just an old
phrase, but does it come from in

2181
02:12:06,990 --> 02:12:09,780
the old days that people used to
have a hair up their ass?

2182
02:12:10,080 --> 02:12:12,630
I don't know where it why it was
even used as a term.

2183
02:12:12,930 --> 02:12:15,900
No, just ask them thought maybe
you had an idea? I never heard

2184
02:12:15,900 --> 02:12:18,780
it before. Yeah, but only now
that I just think about like,

2185
02:12:18,780 --> 02:12:20,550
wow, you know, is that annoying?

2186
02:12:21,030 --> 02:12:23,220
I didn't really expect to
deconstruct the old

2187
02:12:23,220 --> 02:12:26,940
colloquialisms on the show. I
mean, I'm gonna give you my

2188
02:12:26,940 --> 02:12:30,690
every time I say one of these
old things like cripes.

2189
02:12:30,750 --> 02:12:34,500
Well, no, we thought Yes. We
have discussed Cripe we have

2190
02:12:34,500 --> 02:12:38,490
discussed. Get on the stick
we've discussed Fiddlesticks we

2191
02:12:38,490 --> 02:12:39,600
discuss all these times.

2192
02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:44,250
I don't say Fiddlesticks. We've
discussed it. That don't even

2193
02:12:44,250 --> 02:12:46,110
remember what what was
Fiddlesticks what was

2194
02:12:46,650 --> 02:12:50,010
discussed. Your mother wears
army boots. Ah,

2195
02:12:50,070 --> 02:12:51,420
that was a good one. Yeah.

2196
02:12:52,230 --> 02:12:55,590
But hair up your ass. I'll look
it up when we listen to the clip

2197
02:12:55,650 --> 02:12:58,020
that was supposed to be a
celebration of the French

2198
02:12:58,020 --> 02:13:01,230
language 70 heads of state and
gathering in the Democratic

2199
02:13:01,230 --> 02:13:04,560
Republic of Congo this Saturday,
along with French President

2200
02:13:04,560 --> 02:13:07,170
Francois Oh, lord. But the
summit is shrouded in

2201
02:13:07,170 --> 02:13:09,990
controversy earlier this week or
launched himself said the

2202
02:13:09,990 --> 02:13:13,470
situation in Congo was
unacceptable in terms of human

2203
02:13:13,470 --> 02:13:16,860
rights, democracy and the
respect of the opposition, but

2204
02:13:16,860 --> 02:13:21,060
he agreed to attend in an effort
to promote democracy in Africa.

2205
02:13:21,360 --> 02:13:24,180
Earlier we spoke to a reporter
Nicolas Yama who's covering the

2206
02:13:24,180 --> 02:13:27,840
summit for France and cat. He
told us what's the top of the

2207
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:28,680
agenda today?

2208
02:13:30,270 --> 02:13:32,340
Well, we know that first of all,
they're going to talk about the

2209
02:13:32,370 --> 02:13:35,730
crisis situations in the
Francophone areas. And first of

2210
02:13:35,730 --> 02:13:38,550
all about Marley and northern
Mali, the territory is occupied

2211
02:13:38,700 --> 02:13:41,880
by Islamist forces, they will
discuss the possible military

2212
02:13:41,880 --> 02:13:44,760
intervention of a regional
force. They will also talk about

2213
02:13:44,790 --> 02:13:48,450
Congo here where in the east of
the country, the N 23 rebels are

2214
02:13:48,450 --> 02:13:51,930
opposed to government forces.
The UN says that Rwanda supports

2215
02:13:51,930 --> 02:13:55,410
these rebels. Kigali denies the
accusations. So here today, the

2216
02:13:55,410 --> 02:13:58,110
Congolese and random delegations
will be able to discuss that

2217
02:13:58,110 --> 02:14:00,810
topic. And of course, it's a
francophone Summit. So they're

2218
02:14:00,810 --> 02:14:03,480
going to talk about the future
of the French language. Today

2219
02:14:03,480 --> 02:14:08,580
French is spoken by 220 million
people in 2050 700 million

2220
02:14:08,580 --> 02:14:12,000
people will talk French and most
of them will be here in Africa,

2221
02:14:12,570 --> 02:14:14,730
and they will all be singing
Swasey enough.

2222
02:14:15,090 --> 02:14:19,260
Did you know that they were
going to do 700 million Babel

2223
02:14:19,260 --> 02:14:22,200
gonna be speaking in French and
most of them in Africa.

2224
02:14:22,230 --> 02:14:25,350
He was still I believe the
official language of politics.

2225
02:14:27,120 --> 02:14:31,560
French it is the it is the Ilia
I think it's still the elitist

2226
02:14:31,560 --> 02:14:34,590
language. I think that ended
some time back and well not

2227
02:14:34,590 --> 02:14:35,670
according to the French.

2228
02:14:37,620 --> 02:14:39,120
I just thought that was
peculiar.

2229
02:14:39,599 --> 02:14:44,669
Well, you know, the French
colonialism certainly spread out

2230
02:14:44,669 --> 02:14:47,429
quite a bit. I mean, you talk to
any of these people from from

2231
02:14:47,429 --> 02:14:50,759
Africa, they all speak French,
most of them

2232
02:14:51,540 --> 02:14:54,540
and then I have the one last
thing which is my clip gone bad.

2233
02:14:55,890 --> 02:15:00,480
Polasek clip gone bad. All
right. Well

2234
02:15:05,819 --> 02:15:13,349
concrete laws governing workers
was that actually broadcast that

2235
02:15:13,349 --> 02:15:14,219
way on RT?

2236
02:15:14,970 --> 02:15:16,470
No, it was a clip gone bad.

2237
02:15:16,769 --> 02:15:24,629
Okay. Wow, she the correct use
of the phrase is a have a wild

2238
02:15:24,629 --> 02:15:26,009
hair up your ass

2239
02:15:27,840 --> 02:15:30,420
not just the hair been
concatenated Yes,

2240
02:15:30,420 --> 02:15:33,870
it has been a wild hair, which
would be a psychological

2241
02:15:34,110 --> 02:15:37,800
irritation. A wild hair dye

2242
02:15:37,800 --> 02:15:40,620
it doesn't. There has to be a
better. There has to be an

2243
02:15:40,620 --> 02:15:41,880
etymology that makes sense.

2244
02:15:41,910 --> 02:15:47,580
Well, I'm looking at the
etymology and there's 1952 as a

2245
02:15:47,580 --> 02:15:49,350
reference, but

2246
02:15:49,560 --> 02:15:52,800
it was as wild H AI R h a r e.

2247
02:15:53,400 --> 02:16:02,310
H AI R, I believe. You can have
a hair across your ass. How

2248
02:16:02,310 --> 02:16:05,190
about you can have a hairy
Canary This is that's a good

2249
02:16:05,190 --> 02:16:07,860
one. We should use the hairy
Canary line. I never heard it.

2250
02:16:07,920 --> 02:16:11,490
What is it used for? As in a
wild hair up your ass? It's just

2251
02:16:11,490 --> 02:16:17,760
another way hairy Canary. Canary
Canary. That's where we go hairy

2252
02:16:17,760 --> 02:16:22,650
Canary and we're sticking with
it. Well, John, I think it is

2253
02:16:22,650 --> 02:16:26,700
now time since we have everybody
listening. I think it is time to

2254
02:16:26,700 --> 02:16:28,320
congratulate the European Union.

2255
02:16:28,320 --> 02:16:30,660
Welcome to the program. This
year's Nobel Peace Prize has

2256
02:16:30,660 --> 02:16:33,750
been awarded to the European
Union The Nobel Committee so the

2257
02:16:33,750 --> 02:16:37,350
EU deserved the award for its
long term role is uniting the

2258
02:16:37,350 --> 02:16:39,210
continent after World War Two.

2259
02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:43,620
Yes, that's right. Yeah. I mean,
how? How lame. Is this?

2260
02:16:44,100 --> 02:16:46,710
His business as bad as Obama? I
mean,

2261
02:16:48,030 --> 02:16:50,760
yeah, we have a Nobel Peace
Prize winner with a kill list. I

2262
02:16:50,760 --> 02:16:54,330
mean, that was already crazy.
But now Well, here's the here's

2263
02:16:54,330 --> 02:16:57,390
Burroughs. So he's very happy,
bro. So thanks. It's great. I

2264
02:16:57,390 --> 02:16:57,660
have to

2265
02:16:57,660 --> 02:17:02,070
say that when I woke up this
morning, I did not expect it to

2266
02:17:02,070 --> 02:17:03,630
be such a good day.

2267
02:17:03,689 --> 02:17:07,049
Because you know Europe is going
down in flames. Everything is

2268
02:17:07,049 --> 02:17:09,569
breaking away. But we have a
prize.

2269
02:17:10,620 --> 02:17:15,090
It was with great emotion that I
received the news of the words

2270
02:17:15,360 --> 02:17:17,460
of nobel peace prize to the
European Union.

2271
02:17:18,180 --> 02:17:21,630
European what he said Nobel note
Oh, you

2272
02:17:21,630 --> 02:17:22,440
keep saying Nobel

2273
02:17:22,469 --> 02:17:28,229
in and then you pin community
hasn't been the fight. Countries

2274
02:17:28,229 --> 02:17:34,829
split by the Cold War. And as
made it around the values of

2275
02:17:34,829 --> 02:17:39,959
respect for human dignity,
freedom, democracy, justice, the

2276
02:17:39,959 --> 02:17:43,079
rule of law and respect for
human rights

2277
02:17:43,170 --> 02:17:46,680
and just wait until we get the
police on the cyber networks. It

2278
02:17:46,680 --> 02:17:51,930
will be great. Oh, sand in your
badge is another one that's

2279
02:17:51,930 --> 02:17:56,130
being recommended here. So here
is of course our friend Nigel

2280
02:17:56,130 --> 02:17:59,670
Farage, who pretty much
expresses the same sentiments we

2281
02:17:59,670 --> 02:18:03,870
have on the best podcast in the
universe about this ludicrous,

2282
02:18:04,020 --> 02:18:11,160
ridiculous, elite megalomaniac
inspired idea and degradation of

2283
02:18:11,160 --> 02:18:15,390
the entire concept of any Nobel
Prize by handing it to the

2284
02:18:15,390 --> 02:18:17,730
European Union rife with wars

2285
02:18:17,730 --> 02:18:20,490
get more on that top story, the
Nobel Peace Prize being awarded

2286
02:18:20,490 --> 02:18:21,180
to them please pay

2287
02:18:21,180 --> 02:18:26,100
attention to the BBC shield
trying to confront Nigel Farraj

2288
02:18:26,100 --> 02:18:27,120
about this European

2289
02:18:27,120 --> 02:18:29,820
Union. Joining us live now from
Central young London is the

2290
02:18:29,820 --> 02:18:33,720
leader of the UK Independence
Party, Nigel Farage, Mr. Farage,

2291
02:18:33,900 --> 02:18:37,440
welcome to BBC World News. So
you've been phoning Josie

2292
02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:39,900
Manuel, but also to say
congratulations, well done.

2293
02:18:41,879 --> 02:18:44,369
You are so funny. NEWSMAN.

2294
02:18:44,580 --> 02:18:46,830
I think the whole thing is
nonsense. I mean, if anybody is

2295
02:18:46,830 --> 02:18:50,280
seriously suggesting that a
democratic stable postwar

2296
02:18:50,280 --> 02:18:52,740
Germany would have invaded
France, again, with the

2297
02:18:52,740 --> 02:18:55,650
intention of smashing it to
smithereens, I would suggest

2298
02:18:55,770 --> 02:18:58,290
there misreading history. I
don't believe there was any

2299
02:18:58,290 --> 02:19:03,180
prospect of war happening in
Western Europe after 1945. And

2300
02:19:03,180 --> 02:19:07,380
arguably, projects that take
different nation states, force

2301
02:19:07,380 --> 02:19:10,320
them together, under a new
identity, a new flag and a new

2302
02:19:10,320 --> 02:19:13,620
anthem. If they do it without
the consent of the peoples, far

2303
02:19:13,620 --> 02:19:16,950
from creating peace, this can
actually create war, as

2304
02:19:16,950 --> 02:19:21,390
Yugoslavia has showed us. So I'm
baffled by this prize, as I

2305
02:19:21,390 --> 02:19:24,300
think the viewers will be
because the last big European

2306
02:19:24,300 --> 02:19:27,300
story was Angela Merkel going to
Athens. And there we saw

2307
02:19:27,390 --> 02:19:31,920
swastikas being flown and Europe
now being dominated by grief,

2308
02:19:31,950 --> 02:19:35,100
violence and division. So you've
completely omitted or you've

2309
02:19:35,100 --> 02:19:38,160
forgotten what the Cold War was
about them? Yes, the Cold War

2310
02:19:38,160 --> 02:19:42,420
was about NATO, NATO and the
nuclear deterrent, the fact we

2311
02:19:42,420 --> 02:19:45,630
had the fact the Russians didn't
invade us had absolutely nothing

2312
02:19:45,630 --> 02:19:48,450
to do with the European Union,
which after all, wasn't actually

2313
02:19:48,450 --> 02:19:52,140
fully created until 1992. So
you're saying the European Union

2314
02:19:52,140 --> 02:19:55,140
now is not about freedom. It's
not about law. It's not about

2315
02:19:55,140 --> 02:19:57,960
human rights. It's not about
reconciliation. It's about the

2316
02:19:57,960 --> 02:20:01,860
destruction of nation state.
democracy. mr. Barroso was

2317
02:20:01,860 --> 02:20:05,790
perfectly clear one month ago in
Strasburg national democracy has

2318
02:20:05,790 --> 02:20:09,750
to go it has it has it has to be
transferred up to a European

2319
02:20:09,750 --> 02:20:13,440
level and that is being done
without consent and far from

2320
02:20:13,440 --> 02:20:15,750
making the peoples of Europe
love each other. What has

2321
02:20:15,750 --> 02:20:19,740
actually happened is the Euro
zone has divided Europe north to

2322
02:20:19,740 --> 02:20:23,940
south and our our increasing
growing emulators and violence

2323
02:20:23,940 --> 02:20:27,210
on the streets We are headed in
a very bad and I think dangerous

2324
02:20:27,210 --> 02:20:28,950
direction you be

2325
02:20:30,510 --> 02:20:33,570
this douchebag from the BBC
cheese

2326
02:20:33,600 --> 02:20:36,960
this this just in Jerry Sandusky
is one the Think of the children

2327
02:20:36,960 --> 02:20:43,320
award. Yeah, kids builders had a
good one. He said what's next

2328
02:20:43,380 --> 02:20:48,420
Herman Van Rompuy wins an Oscar.
Like funny enough. The

2329
02:20:48,450 --> 02:20:50,010
wasn't a good one. It wasn't
funny.

2330
02:20:50,040 --> 02:20:52,290
I'd like that one. I liked it
when it came out. You didn't

2331
02:20:52,290 --> 02:20:52,830
like that one?

2332
02:20:53,400 --> 02:20:54,990
No, it wasn't nominated.

2333
02:20:58,590 --> 02:21:06,420
Was it? Iran has they're
creating the Islamic Nobel

2334
02:21:06,420 --> 02:21:11,490
Prize. They figured thing is now
so devalued. Yeah. Oh, I missed

2335
02:21:11,490 --> 02:21:15,780
this one. Yeah, Iran, which has
themselves only one Nobel Prize

2336
02:21:15,780 --> 02:21:19,470
Laureate announced the inception
of a rival award intended solely

2337
02:21:19,470 --> 02:21:24,360
for outstanding scientists of
the Islamic world. That's great.

2338
02:21:24,390 --> 02:21:26,190
That's very smart. But they
shouldn't just do it for the

2339
02:21:26,190 --> 02:21:33,780
Islamic world. It'll be the
great Prophet world prize. Can't

2340
02:21:33,780 --> 02:21:35,460
wait, this would be a fun
ceremony.

2341
02:21:39,720 --> 02:21:41,790
There's a million jokes in
there. I can't come up with one.

2342
02:21:41,790 --> 02:21:42,240
Yeah.

2343
02:21:42,570 --> 02:21:48,840
But they're in there. They're in
there for sure. Let's just talk

2344
02:21:48,840 --> 02:21:52,230
about this for one second. But
why did they do this?

2345
02:21:52,800 --> 02:21:55,020
Well, there's a couple of
factors here. One, you have to

2346
02:21:55,020 --> 02:22:00,210
remember, the country that does
the Nobel Peace Prize is not the

2347
02:22:00,210 --> 02:22:03,570
same country that does the Nobel
Prize for Literature and

2348
02:22:03,570 --> 02:22:06,930
chemistry. And all the rest is a
different award altogether. And

2349
02:22:06,930 --> 02:22:11,940
it is done out of Norway, as
opposed to the Nobel Prizes,

2350
02:22:11,940 --> 02:22:16,050
which are done out of Sweden.
And Norway, ironically enough,

2351
02:22:16,050 --> 02:22:19,050
is not part of the European
Union. They stayed out.

2352
02:22:20,340 --> 02:22:24,240
Ah, that's interesting. So I

2353
02:22:24,240 --> 02:22:27,330
thought that Yeah, I thought
that little, like, we're not in

2354
02:22:27,330 --> 02:22:30,090
it. But you guys can hear we'll
give you an award Shut up. Maybe

2355
02:22:30,090 --> 02:22:32,700
they were trying to buy him off
or something. I have no idea.

2356
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:33,930
Wow,

2357
02:22:33,960 --> 02:22:38,790
interesting. Maybe it was just
poking their eye out. It's like,

2358
02:22:39,600 --> 02:22:42,930
we're here. We're outside of
that whole debacle. I know, I'm

2359
02:22:42,930 --> 02:22:46,500
funny. Let's kick sand in their
face and give them the Peace

2360
02:22:46,500 --> 02:22:47,400
Prize Award.

2361
02:22:47,940 --> 02:22:52,200
Right? There's that element does
exist in the award system, all

2362
02:22:52,200 --> 02:22:56,580
awards system, since I've been a
judge in different awards. And

2363
02:22:56,850 --> 02:23:00,330
every once in a while there's a
political thing that takes place

2364
02:23:00,330 --> 02:23:05,250
when you decide between one A or
B, which are both deserving. And

2365
02:23:05,250 --> 02:23:08,640
you'll pick one, or the group
will pick one or somebody will

2366
02:23:08,640 --> 02:23:11,580
boss everybody into picking the
one that will cause more

2367
02:23:11,580 --> 02:23:15,330
controversy, or it will be the
one that just throw sand in the

2368
02:23:15,330 --> 02:23:17,940
face kind of thing. I mean,
there's that does happen. So

2369
02:23:17,940 --> 02:23:19,080
what drives me? Can

2370
02:23:19,080 --> 02:23:21,210
you give me a specific example?
I mean,

2371
02:23:21,390 --> 02:23:27,120
yeah, there was a computer press
award some time back. And this

2372
02:23:27,120 --> 02:23:30,750
was in the 80s. And I was a
judge and it was a code judge,

2373
02:23:30,750 --> 02:23:34,920
actually, with William William
Randolph Hearst, the third. And

2374
02:23:34,920 --> 02:23:40,440
I believe was Bill, Willie. So
the two of us were picking best

2375
02:23:40,440 --> 02:23:44,700
computer magazine. I believe it
was a 1985 I think set the

2376
02:23:44,700 --> 02:23:48,540
stage. Are you on his yacht? He
doesn't have a yacht. He does

2377
02:23:48,540 --> 02:23:51,090
get into time he's driving
around a Honda Civic. But

2378
02:23:51,090 --> 02:23:54,000
anyway, and it was one of those
Honda sevens you can find the

2379
02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:57,960
old civics if anybody knows
this, these old civics they had

2380
02:23:57,990 --> 02:24:01,830
a they were all right hand drive
because in Japan, they're on the

2381
02:24:01,830 --> 02:24:03,930
right hand side of the road. So
they make the left hand drive

2382
02:24:03,930 --> 02:24:06,810
was special for the United
States and other countries. But

2383
02:24:06,810 --> 02:24:09,660
the way they did those old
civics they still had the gears

2384
02:24:09,660 --> 02:24:13,860
for the right hand drive stuff
on the in the passenger side. So

2385
02:24:13,860 --> 02:24:18,510
there was a little bump at the
top of the of the floor panel

2386
02:24:18,660 --> 02:24:21,600
that you could push down and
stop the car from the driver's

2387
02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:21,930
side.

2388
02:24:21,990 --> 02:24:25,800
Wait a minute, these cars had
they'd have a clutch as well.

2389
02:24:26,040 --> 02:24:28,590
No, there was no clutch but
yeah, there might have been but

2390
02:24:28,590 --> 02:24:30,600
there was the there was the
brake that was sticking out

2391
02:24:30,630 --> 02:24:33,660
really. So you can just so you
could never got in one of these

2392
02:24:33,660 --> 02:24:36,810
cars that always feel around for
the bump, and then I slam on the

2393
02:24:36,810 --> 02:24:39,900
brakes. That would drive that
what the hell's wrong with my

2394
02:24:39,900 --> 02:24:40,500
car?

2395
02:24:41,100 --> 02:24:46,140
Really, this? Okay, so so I'm
just like you are full of jokes,

2396
02:24:46,140 --> 02:24:46,800
and you'd have

2397
02:24:47,580 --> 02:24:50,580
to get a million of them. So
anyway, so we came down to Byte

2398
02:24:50,580 --> 02:24:55,050
magazine and computer currents,
which was a throwaway, free,

2399
02:24:55,770 --> 02:24:59,910
newsprint magazine, and we just
thought it would be so funny to

2400
02:24:59,910 --> 02:25:04,050
go If it's computer currents, as
opposed to a magazine, which is

2401
02:25:04,050 --> 02:25:07,470
like a big, you know, big fat
magazine, this is like a local

2402
02:25:08,160 --> 02:25:10,680
local magazine couldn't resist.

2403
02:25:10,860 --> 02:25:14,400
Oh, man. And that was that's the
only example you have. I'm sure.

2404
02:25:15,300 --> 02:25:17,910
I'm just not going to tell you
all the examples. throw a brick

2405
02:25:17,910 --> 02:25:18,720
through the window somewhere.

2406
02:25:19,800 --> 02:25:22,500
So someone's pissed because I
didn't get some hokey computer

2407
02:25:22,500 --> 02:25:23,400
press award.

2408
02:25:26,700 --> 02:25:29,370
Generally speaking, I played it
straight, but there was always a

2409
02:25:29,370 --> 02:25:32,670
consideration, like, who would
get the most benefit from the

2410
02:25:32,670 --> 02:25:37,980
award? Do these guys need
another award? Wow. You know,

2411
02:25:37,980 --> 02:25:41,130
that kind of thing? That's very
common. Wow. Now when you're in

2412
02:25:41,130 --> 02:25:43,260
meetings, if you're like an
editorial system with a you

2413
02:25:43,260 --> 02:25:47,220
know, at the top 100 people and
you sit around a table,

2414
02:25:47,250 --> 02:25:50,310
generally speaking, just the
editorial staff, and somebody

2415
02:25:50,340 --> 02:25:52,470
they just throw out names and
this I think you should be

2416
02:25:52,470 --> 02:25:57,810
number 30. Oh, what about sewing
sew up? To 15? What about what's

2417
02:25:57,810 --> 02:26:00,690
her name? Oh, yeah, let's put
her up to number two. But don't

2418
02:26:00,690 --> 02:26:03,060
put her number one because she's
number one, two. They won't be

2419
02:26:03,060 --> 02:26:05,130
good. Let's put somebody else
that she hates. Number one.

2420
02:26:05,130 --> 02:26:06,420
Okay. But this person

2421
02:26:06,660 --> 02:26:09,810
so spiteful or not so spiteful
and mean

2422
02:26:09,810 --> 02:26:12,750
wow. As what you do when you're
in the business so

2423
02:26:12,750 --> 02:26:16,380
you think that goes on at the
Oscars and the Country Music

2424
02:26:16,380 --> 02:26:17,820
Awards and all that stuff?

2425
02:26:17,850 --> 02:26:24,060
Yeah, of course. All awards and
all this are bull crap. Do you

2426
02:26:24,090 --> 02:26:27,900
want 100 Most influencers Come
on? I mean, you know, when they

2427
02:26:27,900 --> 02:26:31,140
have the meeting that guy says
will disappear. Oh, really? This

2428
02:26:31,140 --> 02:26:34,440
this guy off? Let's put let's
put him number eight and then

2429
02:26:34,440 --> 02:26:35,820
put so and so number seven.

2430
02:26:36,150 --> 02:26:39,570
I know that even happens with
the with what they do the riches

2431
02:26:39,570 --> 02:26:43,440
list. I know, I know that
they're totally making that up.

2432
02:26:43,560 --> 02:26:45,960
Because in Holland, when I
actually had a lot of money,

2433
02:26:46,890 --> 02:26:49,350
they would put me on a list and
I'd be like, he's got 50

2434
02:26:49,350 --> 02:26:54,570
million. I'd be like, I wish
they were just they just make up

2435
02:26:54,570 --> 02:26:58,860
numbers. And then they actually
would have the audacity to say,

2436
02:26:59,310 --> 02:27:02,070
well, you know, you could always
just open your accounting to us

2437
02:27:02,070 --> 02:27:06,420
so we can take a look at it for
Yeah, cuz I would always I

2438
02:27:06,420 --> 02:27:08,580
didn't want to be on your stupid
list. I don't have that kind of

2439
02:27:08,580 --> 02:27:12,150
money. I never did. But they
would just put you on the list

2440
02:27:12,150 --> 02:27:15,330
just to you know, to draw you
in, I guess. I don't know. You

2441
02:27:15,330 --> 02:27:20,520
know, it's all it's all bull
crap in general. All prices

2442
02:27:20,520 --> 02:27:23,070
bullcrap. The only thing that's
not bull crap is this program

2443
02:27:23,070 --> 02:27:23,610
right here.

2444
02:27:25,770 --> 02:27:27,960
This there's some truth to that.
Do you remember the first time

2445
02:27:27,960 --> 02:27:32,070
we met John? And I hate to be
revealing all this? inside

2446
02:27:32,070 --> 02:27:34,740
information hitting Molly. But I
think you have to know this

2447
02:27:34,740 --> 02:27:35,490
donations

2448
02:27:35,520 --> 02:27:39,420
are soaring through the roof as
we speak. Because this is this

2449
02:27:39,420 --> 02:27:43,800
is information people just don't
get. So I think it's very smart.

2450
02:27:43,800 --> 02:27:44,400
You did this?

2451
02:27:45,360 --> 02:27:48,120
We met in 1993. At CNET

2452
02:27:48,150 --> 02:27:51,120
That's correct. And what was the
occasion had seen it. But you

2453
02:27:51,120 --> 02:27:54,750
were auditioning to be the host
of something to tab the main

2454
02:27:54,750 --> 02:27:58,020
host, John. By Richard Hart.

2455
02:27:58,020 --> 02:28:02,160
No, no. Incorrect. I'm sorry. We
were doing it. No, that's

2456
02:28:02,160 --> 02:28:05,010
exactly right. No. Incorrect.
I'll

2457
02:28:05,010 --> 02:28:09,060
do it again. It was the pilot
weekend we were shooting the

2458
02:28:09,060 --> 02:28:14,610
pilots. I refused the job. Okay.
I refused the job because they

2459
02:28:14,610 --> 02:28:15,540
weren't they saw you

2460
02:28:15,540 --> 02:28:20,010
standing up there reading lines.
That was the pilot. It was the

2461
02:28:20,010 --> 02:28:22,980
pilot weekend. And by the way,
you're a handsome young man.

2462
02:28:23,370 --> 02:28:25,050
So what show were you doing?

2463
02:28:25,620 --> 02:28:28,890
What was the show? No, they had
me doing some. Yeah, we had a

2464
02:28:28,890 --> 02:28:29,790
couple of differences

2465
02:28:29,790 --> 02:28:32,940
was the name. What was the name
of the show? The discussion

2466
02:28:32,940 --> 02:28:33,390
show?

2467
02:28:33,960 --> 02:28:34,920
Yeah, the discussion?

2468
02:28:34,950 --> 02:28:35,670
Was it called?

2469
02:28:35,970 --> 02:28:38,220
I don't remember. Because I
found

2470
02:28:38,220 --> 02:28:42,870
yesterday. In cleaning up we so
I did two things yesterday. One

2471
02:28:42,870 --> 02:28:47,640
is a very, very unhappy moment
on Friday. very unhappy moment.

2472
02:28:47,640 --> 02:28:50,880
I did my taxes. Because you
know, of course, is it Monday or

2473
02:28:50,880 --> 02:28:54,660
Tuesday when you actually have
to send the check. Yes. And we

2474
02:28:54,660 --> 02:28:58,830
don't get no refunds around
here. So I'm sure Mimi does your

2475
02:28:58,830 --> 02:29:00,900
taxes. Right? She took care of
that for you guys.

2476
02:29:01,350 --> 02:29:03,360
That's being finished as we
speak essay,

2477
02:29:03,390 --> 02:29:07,110
so I did it. unhappy moment. And
I'm like, you know, I'm so

2478
02:29:07,110 --> 02:29:10,740
pissed off. Why don't I just
continue and I'll clean out the

2479
02:29:10,740 --> 02:29:15,000
entire garage, which included 10
boxes of crap that were

2480
02:29:15,810 --> 02:29:20,460
unceremoniously packed by my ex
wife and shipped off to La which

2481
02:29:20,460 --> 02:29:24,000
means that literally, imagine a
box and just throwing everything

2482
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:26,610
in there just like a dumping
trash can.

2483
02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:29,130
Sounds exactly my office. Right.

2484
02:29:29,820 --> 02:29:35,670
And I cleaned up the studio. And
I found the the entire pilot

2485
02:29:35,670 --> 02:29:38,550
tape of that whole CNET weekend
because that was never

2486
02:29:38,550 --> 02:29:41,880
broadcast. That was that way. We
were just doing a pilot to sell

2487
02:29:41,880 --> 02:29:45,030
to cable stations, because CNET
was supposed to be a cable

2488
02:29:45,030 --> 02:29:50,340
channel before it became an
Internet network. And I have the

2489
02:29:50,340 --> 02:29:51,780
pilot of that show that you did.

2490
02:29:52,259 --> 02:29:54,869
Really? Can you make a dub for
me?

2491
02:29:56,940 --> 02:30:00,240
If I could, even if I can even
find the machine to play it Um,

2492
02:30:01,140 --> 02:30:03,600
you have probably a VHS Matic.
No, it's

2493
02:30:03,600 --> 02:30:07,350
a VHS. It's just I don't have a
VHS player. Oh, I do you have a

2494
02:30:07,350 --> 02:30:09,540
VHS player that I think was
called? No, but I think it was

2495
02:30:09,540 --> 02:30:14,670
called The Insiders or something
like that maybe. Yep. And so I

2496
02:30:14,670 --> 02:30:18,360
do want to reiterate, they
offered me the job. I was doing

2497
02:30:18,360 --> 02:30:21,630
it with Dr. Mae Jemison, the
astronaut you'll recall,

2498
02:30:21,630 --> 02:30:25,290
beautiful black woman. Remember,
you don't remember I can

2499
02:30:25,290 --> 02:30:27,330
barely remember what time I got
up.

2500
02:30:29,430 --> 02:30:34,140
And they offered me like some
bullcrap salary and 18 million

2501
02:30:34,140 --> 02:30:41,280
shares of stock. And I was like,
Well, how much? Do you have

2502
02:30:41,280 --> 02:30:43,860
outstanding? They wouldn't tell
me I'm like, well, then how?

2503
02:30:43,950 --> 02:30:46,320
There's no good. It's not good.
Tell me how many shares are

2504
02:30:46,320 --> 02:30:48,870
outstanding? I don't know what
you're giving me. And they want

2505
02:30:48,870 --> 02:30:54,120
me to move to San Francisco.
Interesting tidbit. I had

2506
02:30:54,120 --> 02:30:57,450
registered, I registered for
them on the spot that day that

2507
02:30:57,450 --> 02:31:02,790
weekend. cnet.com. And I hosted
their email for at least six

2508
02:31:02,790 --> 02:31:03,420
months.

2509
02:31:05,190 --> 02:31:07,140
Because they had that with MTV
to

2510
02:31:07,410 --> 02:31:11,310
Yeah, well, but MTV I set up a
server but this is just like you

2511
02:31:11,340 --> 02:31:14,160
I remember telling them Kevin
Wendell memory was sitting there

2512
02:31:14,160 --> 02:31:18,450
and Halsey minor and I said,
Guys, this needs to be a

2513
02:31:18,450 --> 02:31:22,200
computer thing. This is this is
a this is a whole computer. This

2514
02:31:22,200 --> 02:31:25,320
cable thing. Great idea. That's
not what your future is. In

2515
02:31:25,320 --> 02:31:31,050
fact, do you have a website? No.
Okay, we have prodigy. No, no,

2516
02:31:31,050 --> 02:31:36,090
no, no look, in fact, I'm not
kidding. I used to forward Kevin

2517
02:31:36,090 --> 02:31:40,290
Wendell and Halsey minors email
to their prodigy account. And I

2518
02:31:40,290 --> 02:31:44,730
registered cnet.com on the spot
and set up email aliases so that

2519
02:31:44,730 --> 02:31:47,310
it would go to their to their
prodigy email

2520
02:31:48,720 --> 02:31:52,020
again ahead of your time, man,
let's with this show.

2521
02:31:52,050 --> 02:31:54,600
Look where it got me nowhere.

2522
02:31:54,990 --> 02:31:57,120
That's the problem with being
that ahead of you. You're too

2523
02:31:57,120 --> 02:31:57,870
far ahead.

2524
02:31:57,900 --> 02:32:01,050
But that does qualify me as a
visionary. Yeah, I

2525
02:32:01,050 --> 02:32:09,060
guess. Well, that's interesting.
Joining me main host of the

2526
02:32:09,060 --> 02:32:10,950
whole network No,

2527
02:32:12,090 --> 02:32:16,350
no, that they were offering me a
job as a host. I don't know if

2528
02:32:16,350 --> 02:32:19,320
it was the main host. I think it
was the main host but I said I

2529
02:32:19,320 --> 02:32:22,440
wasn't interested because they
were gonna pay just not enough

2530
02:32:22,440 --> 02:32:25,830
money to move out there. Move my
whole family. No security with

2531
02:32:25,830 --> 02:32:28,680
his bullcrap fly by night
operation. That's some talk

2532
02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:28,950
show.

2533
02:32:29,190 --> 02:32:31,440
I didn't have much faith in a
talk show with some

2534
02:32:31,470 --> 02:32:34,770
some good white haired guy who
was all grouchy and like this is

2535
02:32:34,770 --> 02:32:35,940
good. This is going to fail.

2536
02:32:38,280 --> 02:32:40,170
I'm just kidding. Man. I love
you. You know that.

2537
02:32:42,360 --> 02:32:45,750
wouldn't know what to do without
you wouldn't know what to do

2538
02:32:45,750 --> 02:32:49,920
without being able to talk with
you at least twice a week? I'd

2539
02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:51,060
probably be divorced again.

2540
02:32:51,780 --> 02:32:54,690
Yeah, it could be but I'll tell
you this would plan A into show

2541
02:32:54,690 --> 02:32:58,290
clip after this is over. Okay.
UK and Russia and the Merchant

2542
02:32:58,290 --> 02:33:01,440
Marines. Apparently the Russians
want to give some old Merchant

2543
02:33:01,440 --> 02:33:04,080
Marines that were in the British
Navy, a British merchant

2544
02:33:04,080 --> 02:33:07,830
marines, who went all through
the icebergs to drop off

2545
02:33:07,830 --> 02:33:10,710
supplies and award in the
British government. Right?

2546
02:33:10,860 --> 02:33:13,350
Mainly because of that one
douchebag guy that we keep

2547
02:33:13,350 --> 02:33:16,200
pointing out. The Foreign
Secretary.

2548
02:33:16,230 --> 02:33:19,560
Oh, Hague, William Hague. Yeah.
Hey, hey, now.

2549
02:33:20,040 --> 02:33:25,770
You can't do it. You can't have
the award screw. Yeah. Okay, so

2550
02:33:25,770 --> 02:33:27,660
big scandal. And

2551
02:33:27,690 --> 02:33:31,530
please, everybody, enjoy your
weekend. Remember us as you

2552
02:33:33,030 --> 02:33:37,290
think about what you want to
spend your valuable assets on if

2553
02:33:37,290 --> 02:33:41,190
you felt this program was
valuable. dvorak.org/na. I am

2554
02:33:41,190 --> 02:33:44,190
here in the capital of the drone
Star State Austin, Texas in the

2555
02:33:44,190 --> 02:33:45,900
morning, everybody. My name is
Adam curry,

2556
02:33:46,500 --> 02:33:49,290
and from Northern Silicon
Valley. And let me look outside

2557
02:33:49,290 --> 02:33:52,650
for a second. Yep, still foggy.
I'm John C. Dvorak. We

2558
02:33:52,650 --> 02:33:57,240
will be back again on Thursday,
right here on no agenda.

2559
02:34:03,960 --> 02:34:08,430
To definitely fulfill our bubble
have certain deaf humming, a

2560
02:34:08,430 --> 02:34:12,990
temperature was well, well,
below zero. I mean, I was 18

2561
02:34:12,990 --> 02:34:18,480
years of age 18 years of age,
going up to Russia and enduring

2562
02:34:18,480 --> 02:34:21,720
all that power chips and
whatever. But we've done it real

2563
02:34:21,720 --> 02:34:24,630
good out. Because the job had to
be done.

2564
02:34:25,199 --> 02:34:29,399
John stories and memories are
among the most harrowing of the

2565
02:34:29,399 --> 02:34:33,149
war. To the Russians. It was
more than just supplies. There

2566
02:34:33,149 --> 02:34:36,959
was psychological support,
contributing hugely to the war

2567
02:34:36,959 --> 02:34:40,769
efforts. That's why in April,
the Russian President awarded

2568
02:34:40,769 --> 02:34:44,489
the issue of metal to the allies
who taken part in the convoy

2569
02:34:44,489 --> 02:34:48,929
missions. But Incredibly, the
British government's blocking

2570
02:34:48,929 --> 02:34:52,499
Russia from rewarding British
veterans, for their valor,

2571
02:34:53,039 --> 02:34:57,479
veteran of the Arctic convoys in
recognition of your outstanding

2572
02:34:57,479 --> 02:35:01,169
contribution into our allied
corps. operation due to World

2573
02:35:01,169 --> 02:35:06,299
War Two, that discretionary
medicine is attacked for with by

2574
02:35:06,299 --> 02:35:11,489
apparently, unless the British
government sanctions it is a non

2575
02:35:11,489 --> 02:35:16,319
starter, which I think
unforgivable, why

2576
02:35:16,620 --> 02:35:20,040
the Foreign Office says it's
against the rules in order for

2577
02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:23,340
permission to be given for an
award to be accepted. There has

2578
02:35:23,340 --> 02:35:26,880
to be a specific service to the
country concerned. And that

2579
02:35:26,880 --> 02:35:30,960
service should have taken place
within the previous five years.

2580
02:35:31,350 --> 02:35:33,900
Jon's wife says that's
ridiculous.

2581
02:35:33,930 --> 02:35:38,280
They're all late 80s, early 90s.
Some of them What on earth are

2582
02:35:38,280 --> 02:35:42,360
they supposed to do over the
last five years? They're still

2583
02:35:42,360 --> 02:35:47,220
bred men of what they were
during the war. It never leaves

2584
02:35:47,220 --> 02:35:52,110
them. So why are they being
penalized and not being given

2585
02:35:52,110 --> 02:35:55,800
this middle? I think it's
disgraceful. absolutely

2586
02:35:55,800 --> 02:35:56,730
disgraceful.

2587
02:35:56,850 --> 02:36:01,620
Turn off your television. Wow.
And you can always follow me on

2588
02:36:01,620 --> 02:36:09,900
Twitter at the best.org/n A

