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The name of the talk show is
legally drunk. Adam curry, John

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C. Dvorak.

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June 9 2013 times you're getting
on nation media assassination

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Episode Five to zero. This is no
agenda, celebrating the miracle

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of Suazo enough this morning
here in the Travis heights

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hideout in Austin, Texas capital
the drone Star State in the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry and

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from Northern Silicon Valley
where it's cold and miserable.

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I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg Levin
Buzzkill.

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We had a huge rainstorm this
morning here. I mean, like just

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all of a sudden you know, and
don't use hate it when Yeah,

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there you go. Don't you hate it
when you spend an hour the day

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before? Doing things like I
don't know washing the car.

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That's still watering the lawn.
You can't wash

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your car.

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It's not even my car. It's Miss
Mickey's card and she's coming

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back. So hang on. Oh, so

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you're making the car? Oh, yeah.

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What just not just the car got
flowers in the house. You know,

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I got I'm totally she's

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coming. She finally come in. You
think tonight? Yes. With a

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little bit easier tomorrow.
Probably.

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She's gonna go through Atlanta.
Well, if she gets stuck in

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Atlanta, that's good news,
because we have about 10

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producers in Atlanta, who will
pick a lot love to party with

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her.

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Yeah, well, you're snappy today.
Oh, hold on. John, before we do

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anything, we need to play our
new theme song from They Might

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Be Giants. You've heard of these
guys. Right? Yeah, of course.

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Complete transmission to the NSA
suspending you rights for the

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duration.

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I think these guys are so
awesome. I

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think maybe giants.

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Yes, it's true. They really get
it. And they had this out. I

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can't remember. This has been a
while.

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Yeah. Well, this is not news.
We're going to talk about this,

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I guess right off the bat.

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No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no,
no, no, no, we have to ease into

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it. Because I have. I am going
to satisfy everyone with the

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value I'm going to provide
today.

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Because I will have a theory on
it. thoughts on the matter?

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Yeah. Well,

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why don't we ease into it,
though, with a little bit of fun

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and our presidents expense?

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Oh, well, I'm always game for
that.

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So the President had a little
little press thing. It wasn't

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really intended to be much of a
press thing about, specifically

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about the prison and all of this
spying that people are talking

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about. It was about Obamacare.
And if you're ever invited to

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stand behind the president, you
really got to think about if you

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want to do this, did you see
this particular press

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conference?

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Now with a guy standing back
there? mugging? No,

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there were four people and they
all asleep? Well, they if you

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watch them, you see after about
five minutes, they zombify did

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you get the STEREO A eyes and
and one guy's head is cocked to

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the right the whole

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time. You know why they? This is
a bad idea.

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You should also add that's the
right man, I don't need to be on

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the stage with the President.
That's okay. I'll just sit here

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in the audience. So what
happened to the right off the

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bat, it was exhilarating and
wonderful to watch. Because the

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the stage manager forgot to hand
the president who's not just

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hand the present his script, but
to put it onto the onto the

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podium. And and oh, and the
President was not happy with

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this. I mean, he I would say he
came close to throwing a

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celebratory tantrum. And here's
what happened.

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Morning, everybody is wanting to
see all of you. And I want to

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thank everybody who's here. I
think there's only one problem

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and that is that my remarks are
not sitting here.

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People, people. This is this is
the sign of a man who is very,

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very frustrated. And there's
stuff bubbling under when you

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talk like this to your staff,
and you call them people and you

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say PayPal, PayPal, hello no
PayPal. And so And Ed McMahon, a

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panelist in the in the audience
yucking it up for him

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at all things by on Friday
afternoon, things get a little a

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little challenged. I'm going to
have a I'm going to answer a

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question.

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So it's interesting that he
knows already he's going to

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answer a question at

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the end of the remarks. But I
want to make sure that we get

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the remarks on PayPal,

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PayPal. What what does that mean
to you, John, when someone does

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that to the staff

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Well, I think it could be taken
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thing. No. laughs

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You know, but when, you know,
not the second time and his face

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was mad, he was mad. But really
the whole thing he can't even

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start. He can't just start, you
know, ad lib a little bit. Just

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said just a teeny weeny bit, or
say, Hey, hold on a second. I'll

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be right back. Just get off the
stage. Dude. Where's my script?

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Or where's my remarks? This is
what it's called now. remarks.

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Yes. I have some remarks with
this movie I'm doing. Oh,

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goodness. Oh, goodness. Oh, man.
Folks are folks are sweating.

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And you hear someone said, Don't
fire him. Did you hear that?

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It's very, very interesting
moment. I felt this. Folks folks

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are sweating those people,
right. Well, good morning,

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everybody. Good morning. So we
fast forward through all of all

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of the stuff and then there's
the shill. And we know that

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there's always a shill who's
going to ask a question here

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there. But there was only one
question and one shill.

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Thank you very much. I'm gonna
take one question. And then

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remember, people are going to
have opportunities to also

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answer questions when I'm with
the Chinese president today. So

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I don't want the whole day to
just be a bleeding press

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conference, but

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I'm going to bleeding press
conference. Is he now British

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all of a sudden? And instead of
saying fucking press conference,

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it's a bleeding or is there
actual blood involved? Or what

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does this mean?

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That's odd. Right? Yeah. Yeah.
Take you could have said, you

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know, start using scheisse
cough. Terms. Iced coffee.

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This is not an outstanding word.

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No, I was saying he's like, if
he's gonna start swearing and

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kind of offhanded foreign ways.

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Definitely. You should mix it up
a bit is what you're saying.

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Yeah. So this doesn't turn into
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Jackie combs question.

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Now Jackie comms interesting. So
he calls on one reporter, one

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reporter only. And she is a
reporter. And he's he pronounces

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it combs. And it took me a while
to find out who he's talking

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about. So the New York Times got
got the one G O figured how does

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that work? Of all the people in
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gets to ask the question, and
listen specifically to how she

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phrases her question. For the
newspaper of record, I would

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have to say quite shameful. Mr.
President, could you please

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react to the reports of secret
government surveillance of

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phones and internet a few also
assure Americans that the

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government your government
doesn't have some massive secret

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database of all their personal
online information and

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activities?

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Is she reporting for a high
school newspaper? Wow. Can you

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also wish you the American
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this is leading the witness? Or
how does that qualify as an

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actual question? Can you assure
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don't have some massive database
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have to do is say no. That was
that was Whoa, New York Times?

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Hmm. Okay, now let's go into I
have to say, it always happens

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with this guy. But here we go.
People pay attention.

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You know, when I came into this
office, I made two commitments

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that are more important than any
commitment I make.

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Okay. Do we need to play his
oath again, John? Is it that

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time? Where we think so? Yeah. I
actually, I forgot to put that

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in my home. I'll have it in two
seconds. Damn. So the two things

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that he promised you would
expect it would be the equal to

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the oath that he took when he
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day. And right, so that's not
going to happen. I don't have to

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worry now,

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number one, to keep the American
people safe. What?

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That's the number one thing.

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That's not That's not what it
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are Barack Hussein Obama, do
solemnly swear

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That I will faithfully execute,

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that I will faithfully execute
the office of President of the

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United States, the office of
President of the United States,

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and will to the best of my
ability and will to the best of

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my ability, preserve, protect
and defend, preserve, protect

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and defend the American people
Constitution of the United

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States, the Constitution of the
United States, so help you God.

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So help me God. Congratulations,
Mr. Pres. Okay. So I made two

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commitments that are more
important than any commitment I

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make. Number one to keep the
American people safe. And number

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two, to uphold the Constitution.

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He gets a couple of things there
about what happened to protect

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and defend. Does he think he
just has to hold it up in the

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air Like, just every night I
pulled that thing like this,

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just put it up there in the air.
No, Mr. President, nowhere in

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the Constitution or in Article
Two does it state that you have

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to defend and protect the
American people. You can

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appoint. You can you can do
meetings meetings with you are

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the Commander in Chief, which
means you you get to do

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meetings. Okay? Unless you want
to get on like a horse and go

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out there and be in front with a
saber, then you know, then I'll

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give you a little slack. I'll
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no, no, that is not your job.
The American people defend the

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American people. Am I correct?
John, you are the constitutional

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lawyer. Absolutely.

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Okay includes what I consider to
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privacy. And no,

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no, no, you see, it's not really
a constitutional right to

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privacy. It's a con you already
have the rights to privacy. The

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government is not allowed to
encroach that right. This is I

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find it very, very disturbing
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professor, President Obama
continuously propagates this

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mean, this is disturbing

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and observance of civil
liberties. Now, the programs

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that sell,

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so he's full of just nothing but
slippery stuff in this. To me,

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this was just comedy gold, this
this whole speech, it was 15

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minutes, and I just broke it
down a little 32nd bits. So this

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is about the incident. We're
going into prism. John, I do

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want to hear what you're
thinking about. So he says, the

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words matter with this guy, we
know this. So let's listen to

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his exact words.

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When it comes to telephone
calls, nobody is listening to

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your telephone calls.

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I think he's telling the truth
here. However, what he's saying

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is no one's listening to him. He
didn't say they're not being

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recorded to get listened to
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Yeah, no, that's what's going
on. Exactly. This whole thing

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has been an exercise in
obfuscation. You know, the, oh,

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there's no direct connection.
There's no, there's all these,

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you know, these key buzzwords
that have been used to defend

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them, you know, this is out of
out of control?

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Well, it gets a little better
when and I thought this to me,

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where he uses the very same
reporter Jackie comes as an

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example. And I felt if you were
talking to me this way, I'd be

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like, Are you threatening me?

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Anybody in government wanted to
go further than just that top

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line data and wanted to, for
example, listen to Jackie combs

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phone call to you. That could
happen, Jackie, they'd have to

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go back to

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Nevada to do

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a federal judge.

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I don't think I like the way you
asked that question, Jackie. I

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don't know. So here it is. We
all know what to bend, I think

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was Benjamin Franklin. I'll
paraphrase I have, there's

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multiple versions of his quote.
But Benjamin Franklin, one of

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the great statesmen in America,
and a guy who flew a kite in a

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lightning storm. I said, if you
and those who trade security for

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privacy or privacy for security,
really deserve neither. And our

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president, what he said here,
really just blew me away.

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I specifically said that one of
the things that we're going to

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have to discuss and debate is
how are we striking this balance

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between the need to keep the
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Which is not a need, I guess,
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state.

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And our concerns about privacy,
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about privacy, John, it's just a
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because there are some trade
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no, no, there's no trade off.
There shouldn't be any trade

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offs.

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I welcome this debate.

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Whoa, wait,

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and I think it's healthy for our
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that's what got me it. This is
healthy for our democracy, John

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trading privacy for securities
held sign

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of maturity, oh, it's a sign of
maturity. That's probably five

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years ago, six years ago, we
might not have been having this

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debate. And I think it's
interesting that there's some

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folks on the left, but also some
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worried about it, who weren't
very worried about it. When it

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was a Republican President, I
think that's good. That we're

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having this discussion. But I
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everybody to understand and I
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understand.

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Oh, oh, hold on a second. That's
us, John. She doesn't he she

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doesn't be doing that. We think
Why did there are some trade

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offs involved in this trade off?
Yeah, of course.

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Yeah. I came in with a healthy
skepticism about these programs.

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No, I think you came in actually
with some promises about getting

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rid of these programs.

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My team evaluated them. We
scrubbed them thoroughly. We

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actually We expect what does
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mean, I know,

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most of my clips have got stuff
like this in them. And if

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somebody's using a word, a
scrubber screwball word, it's

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like, why are they doing this?
I, yeah, go on

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oversight, increase some of the
safeguards. But my assessment,

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and my team's assessment was
that they help us prevent

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terrorist attacks.

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And by the way, this is
something that CEOs do a lot.

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When, when they want to convince
people of bullcrap, they'll talk

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about the team. You've probably
heard this job. In a company

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meeting. Well, my team or the
team like that hates the team,

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man. It's not just me, it's the
team. The whole team's behind

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me. We didn't elect your team.
Okay, we elected you, not the

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team. So have weird words. This
was a and of course, I had to

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look this one up. But this is a
term when you're talking about

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breaking the law, essentially,
or breaking the constitutional

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law to use this term
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And the modest encroachments?

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Okay, let's look at some
analogies of the term modest

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encroachment. Do you have any
John?

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No, but I'm sure you do.

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I just had one. I just had one
like, Don't worry, baby. It's

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only the tip. It's I think
that's that's a that is a good

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analogy of modest encroachment

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on privacy that are involved in
getting

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it how do you even have a modest
encroachment on privacy

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definition of encroach from
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that'll suffice? encroach to
enter by gradual steps or by

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stealth into the possessions or
rights of another, but only

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modestly. So he is admitting to
a crime?

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No. Well, yeah, that's true. But
and the way if you look at the

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overall possibilities, of
encroachment on privacy, this

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would be just that just a modest
because it's only tapping your

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phones and listen to your calls.
There's no mics in your house.

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There's no guy following you
around. They're not taking

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pictures when you leave your
house is every one of these as

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is as one, one whole unit. I
could go on and on and on. And

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they don't they're not coming in
and checking your underwear.

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They're not people are barreling
into the house to you know, just

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sit with you at dinner, expose
all these possibilities that

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they're not doing is modest.
Yes, it's very much so this only

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this one little thing, which is
tapping your phone and listening

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in. No, no,

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no, no, not listening, not
listening. Not listening yet.

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No. But it isn't. It isn't
encroachment. So he is in fact

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admitting to breaking
constitutional law. That if you

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take the words by their
definition,

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phone numbers or duration,
without a name attached and not

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looking at content, that you're
not

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looking at count No, you don't
look at a phone call. You listen

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to a phone call, or it's
transcribed. Maybe that's what

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he means that we're not looking
at the transcription of it yet

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yet.

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On. Net, it was worth us doing
that. It was worth doing

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nothing. Doing you didn't
accomplish it. Oh, no, hold on,

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hold on. worth us doing. That's
some other folks may have a

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different assessment of that

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all folks who have a different
assessment, raise your hand

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without talking.

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But I think it's important to
recognize that you can't have

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100% security and also then have
100% privacy. And zero

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inconvenience

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is perfect. Benjamin Franklin
just threw up. I don't want to

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happen, I just puked all over
myself in my grave.

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We're gonna have to make some
choices

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as a society, make some choices
as I so he's done. And remember,

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he was only going to answer one
question. And if you watch the

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video, he leaves the stage, but
he has forgotten to address the

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whole The whole reason behind
this coming out the leak. So

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some dude just yells out random
delete loops. And and you know,

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the President has been when
people yell stuff out and he

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says I'm gonna do one question
and one question only he keeps

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walking. He just leaves. He
doesn't come back. And he he

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went, you can see him go, Oh
crap. And he goes back. And he's

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just like, yeah,

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thank you guys. Well, like

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oh shit, all right. Yeah, well,

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I don't I don't welcome leaks.

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We forgot to mention this this
so they have a su Fleur

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sitting recorder was was botched
as he should have let him go.

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But this wasn't even a reporter
I think this was just one of the

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duels a staffer. Yes, a su
Fleur. It's not what it's called

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someone who sits in a little box
on stage. When you forget your

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line, so sue Fleur.

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He may be under the stage with a
little trapdoor she has a little

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trapdoor opens it Don't say
that. It's my line was

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my line. It would be funny if if
Obama said, Oh, guys, I'm up.

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What's My Line? That would be
funny,

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because there's a reason why
these programs are classified.

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You know, I think I think that
there's a suggestion that

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somehow any classified program
is a quote unquote, secret

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program, which is a secret.
Yeah. Somehow suspicious? Yes.

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But the fact of the matter is,
you will,

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yes, fact of the matter if you
are the most transparent

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government in history, yes.
That's suspicious.

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In our modern history. There are
a whole range of programs that

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have been classified, because
when it comes to, for example,

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fighting terror, terror.

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I mean, he almost is saying
terror like George Bush,

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where he's talking about those
leaked documents that got on the

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net, right. There's the five
slides of a probably a tweet.

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That didn't exactly just get on
the net. Yeah. But that's what

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he's talking. Yeah, they were
planted

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or whatever. But it says top
secret at the bottom. Yeah. And

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it has all this other crap on
there, which none of its really,

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I don't see it was secret at
all. And I think we've known

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about this for line, enemy, Go
on, play, play some Mormon, play

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him out.

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Our goal is to stop folks from
doing us harm. And if

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Wayman if the folks are handing
you the script, and it's folks

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are doing your harm, who are the
folks at a certain point, you

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can you got to stop saying they
and you got to identify you

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can't just say, folks,

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folks, every step that we're
taking, try to prevent AQ on the

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F a terrorist act is on the
front page in the newspapers or

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on television, then presumably,
the people who are trying to do

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us harm are going to be able to
get around our preventive

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measures. Oh, that's why these
things are classified. Mm hmm.

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Especially one major that was
even listed on there was just,

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it was just a blow out of when
these guys started doing deals

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with Google.

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Exactly. Now, Let's

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wind it up as we play them. And
people can't trust not only the

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executive branch, but also don't
trust Congress and don't trust

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federal judges. Let me

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see how we do in three for
three, I think. I think he

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nailed Him

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to make sure that we're abiding
by the Constitution, due process

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and rule of law, then we're
gonna have some problems. Yes,

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exactly.

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We have a problem. We don't
trust the executive office, or

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Congress or the federal judges.
I think we have plenty of reason

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to distrust.

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But my observation is, is that
the people who are involved in

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America's national security,
they take this work very

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seriously. Yeah, they're not
going to screw you. they cherish

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our Constitution,

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and they actually know what was
in there. The last

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thing they'd be doing is taking
programs like this to listen to

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somebody's phone calls.

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Now, do you hear how his voice
like he's almost laughing?

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Because this I had to listen to
several times, where he said,

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the last thing these people want
to do is

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listen, listen to somebody's
phone calls.

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What is that all about? Phone
calls.

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I don't know why I even did this
press conference. This is just

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seems like a bonehead move.

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And so of course, finally the
his his last statement is is

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obviously the zinger.

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And if people can't trust not
only the executive branch Oh, we

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already did that. Also, don't
trust Congress.

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We already did that one. So
yeah, so we can't trust the

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government. And and I just found
this you're right, this whole

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press conference to be weird.
Ill thought out the fact that I

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guess they were still making
changes to his remarks or

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something. This isn't just
something that gets forgotten.

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I'm pretty sure someone was
changing something or adding

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something or

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bullets probably I would. I
listened to the the twerp come

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out and when she took her thank
you for putting me in the head

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of national security. And I
listened to the way she speaks

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to the rise. I took me a second.
You're talking the tour. Okay,

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yes, to me

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talks like this when she talks
to me People. It's very weird.

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Yeah. So so she came out I have
I was just it's a long talk she

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gave, but she took forever to
get her words out. And it's

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always this kind of stilted,
weird type of communication.

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That's Herky jerk. And she drew
a couple of weird terms in there

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too. I mean, play this thing.
And then I think she was I

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believed as the new honcho,
she's the one who was supposed

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to have the remarks ready. I'll
bet. Mr. President,

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thank you so much. I'm deeply
honored and humbled to serve our

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country, as your national
security adviser. I'm proud to

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have worked so closely with you
for more than six years. And I'm

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deeply grateful for your
enduring confidence in me. As

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you've outlined, we have vital
opportunities to seize and

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ongoing challenges to confront.
We have much still to accomplish

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on behalf of the American
people. And I look forward to

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continuing to serve on your
national security team to keep

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our nation strong and safe. Tom,
it's been a real honor to work

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with him. You have led with
great dedication, smarts, and

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skill, and you leave a legacy of
enormous accomplishment. All of

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us around the principal's table.
We'll miss you. And I wish you

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and Kathy and your family all
the very best. I am bored,

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because so she is She sounds
like a robot. So she says you

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guys got smarts, which seems
smart, demeaning. If yes. Well,

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this is just principles table.

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It's the guy. Yeah, it's the
grown up table. That's what it

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is that used that's a very good
catch. Can I interrupt for one

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second? The chats over? Now the
chat, but the chat room was

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pointing something out that we
missed something what the

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President said here. And if
people can't trust, he says, if

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people can't trust the executive
branch, and don't trust

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Congress, and if people can't

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trust not only the executive
branch, but also don't trust

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Congress.

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That's interesting. And that's a
good test trust,

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and they don't trust Yeah. Good
catch. I like that. Yeah. I

453
00:27:28,530 --> 00:27:31,500
don't know what quite what it
means. But it's interesting. He

454
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:31,860
would do it.

455
00:27:31,889 --> 00:27:34,499
He's saying you can't trust me.
That's I think that is

456
00:27:34,499 --> 00:27:36,389
subliminal if people can trust
me,

457
00:27:36,510 --> 00:27:40,020
because like, I don't think you
can trust. No. Well,

458
00:27:40,410 --> 00:27:47,460
so I've been laughing so, so
hard at the Obama bots are just

459
00:27:47,460 --> 00:27:51,750
freaking out about this. I mean,
just like totally, totally

460
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:52,950
freaking out.

461
00:27:53,610 --> 00:27:57,750
Ya know? And which is weird,
because this is not anything.

462
00:27:57,810 --> 00:28:02,100
Let me tell us an anecdote. This
is nothing new what they did.

463
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:05,490
And I wrote a column last
Thursday's PC magazine you

464
00:28:05,490 --> 00:28:09,420
should read people should read,
which is called your telecom

465
00:28:09,420 --> 00:28:12,120
provider as the enemy. I don't
think that was my title. But

466
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:16,260
anyway, that no, it's not
Devorah title? No, no, they

467
00:28:16,290 --> 00:28:22,230
don't know why they have. We
know a couple of things that

468
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:24,510
we've known a couple of things
that grabbing metadata is

469
00:28:24,510 --> 00:28:28,170
nothing new. They I was shown in
the early 1990s. When I was in

470
00:28:28,170 --> 00:28:32,760
London with the PC Magazine, UK,
Interpol gave us a lecture on

471
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,200
this. And they showed how you
can use metadata to develop

472
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,860
personal networks. So you could
and they showed an example of a

473
00:28:40,860 --> 00:28:44,220
Italian crime family. And they
had all these, they had all the

474
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,310
same thing that they collected
here, just phone call who you

475
00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:50,430
called, how long the call is
for. And so you could put all

476
00:28:50,430 --> 00:28:54,450
these numbers together. And then
they had a network analysis map.

477
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,140
And they could figure out who
the boss of the crime family was

478
00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:03,240
based on the way things fell,
fell. And that's essentially all

479
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,250
that's been going on. And this
is like not a big shocker to

480
00:29:08,250 --> 00:29:11,220
anybody who keeps up with this
that we're that we've been doing

481
00:29:11,220 --> 00:29:13,950
this the more interesting thing
and I pointed out in the in the

482
00:29:13,980 --> 00:29:17,490
column is what the big picture
is, which is what you mentioned

483
00:29:17,490 --> 00:29:22,590
earlier, which is the recording
of every call constantly and

484
00:29:22,590 --> 00:29:25,260
then storing them in a huge
database of warehouses that

485
00:29:25,260 --> 00:29:27,360
they're building around the
country. Most I think that

486
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,490
monster in Utah, Colorado has
got one.

487
00:29:29,670 --> 00:29:34,350
So what's what's fascinating to
me, though, is that I guess,

488
00:29:34,650 --> 00:29:38,310
even like Leo Laporte both
posted this whole thing on on

489
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:42,480
his Google Plus page, where he's
just outraged and like I gave

490
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,360
you 1000s of dollars and you're
lying and

491
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,560
of all people he and Obama for
yes,

492
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,290
but of all people, he should
know what goes on in the

493
00:29:52,290 --> 00:29:55,620
technology world. And let me
just play two quick clips,

494
00:29:55,860 --> 00:29:59,970
because it's so funny to see
people like chunk over there to

495
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,560
Reaching out Current TV who is
without a doubt. He's always

496
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,910
been pro Obama. He's He's tries
to be fair, but he's done a lot

497
00:30:08,910 --> 00:30:13,140
of really a lot of defending of
the president and he certainly

498
00:30:13,470 --> 00:30:16,650
is more left than right. He was
incensed.

499
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,300
Well, that's not who we're
supposed to be. But that's

500
00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:22,290
exactly who Barack Obama is.
That's who he is. It would

501
00:30:22,290 --> 00:30:25,530
change his love. Look, people
sometimes say, oh, no, no, no,

502
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,740
he never promised not to spying
on you. Yes, he

503
00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:32,880
did. He promised the right there
in Oh, eight campaign. So like,

504
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,460
there's supposed to be a big
phone Pong like, oh, no, don't

505
00:30:35,460 --> 00:30:41,280
do it. He lied. It's not subtle.
He said there will be no spying

506
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:47,610
of citizens for not suspected of
a crime. He lied. There is

507
00:30:47,610 --> 00:30:51,960
spying on all of us. And we're
not suspected of a crime. Barack

508
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,550
Obama is a liar. And I make it
clear. Like that's like a big

509
00:30:56,550 --> 00:30:58,260
thing to say, oh my god, wow.

510
00:31:00,390 --> 00:31:04,260
This is funny because nobody
spoke about the Gitmo thing. In

511
00:31:04,260 --> 00:31:06,960
fact, I have a clip that
combines two of these things,

512
00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:10,920
okay, which is the get most
thing which which, by the way, I

513
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,510
want to mention, but they got a
guy from the National Review on

514
00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:19,380
Bill Maher's crappy show. And
I'm gonna when I plan my second

515
00:31:19,380 --> 00:31:22,890
clip from Bill Maher than you
know why it's a crappy. So

516
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,860
here's the Guantanamo clip. This
is Bill Maher, and we're talking

517
00:31:25,860 --> 00:31:29,040
about so you get to have
national review guy talks about

518
00:31:29,070 --> 00:31:32,730
that this shouldn't be news to
anybody. And then he mentions a

519
00:31:32,730 --> 00:31:36,150
few things. And then And then
Mark cuts it off with this weird

520
00:31:36,150 --> 00:31:37,590
snide ending. In

521
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:39,540
fact, this sort of dragnet
approach to these sorts of

522
00:31:39,540 --> 00:31:42,150
things goes back a long, long
time we had in the 1990s,

523
00:31:42,660 --> 00:31:46,770
possibly even earlier than that.
Surveillance of computer

524
00:31:46,770 --> 00:31:50,910
networks, phone records, things
like that. The 90s Yeah. Before

525
00:31:50,910 --> 00:31:53,610
911 We had a number of programs
like this already going on. It

526
00:31:53,610 --> 00:31:56,160
wasn't talked about as much at
the time, but they're not

527
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,100
exactly new things. You know,
you've got a lot of people on

528
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:02,250
the right that are really taking
advantage of it. There's an

529
00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:05,670
element of selective outrage, I
think there. But it's also the

530
00:32:05,670 --> 00:32:08,010
fact you did have a guy who
campaigned for president saying

531
00:32:08,010 --> 00:32:10,470
I won't give up your phones. I'm
gonna get rid of the stuff in

532
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:12,720
the Patriot Act. We don't like
I'm gonna close down Guantanamo

533
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,210
Bay and all the rest of that
stuff. He's taken the George W

534
00:32:15,210 --> 00:32:17,820
Bush football and run with it.
And I think if he tried to close

535
00:32:17,820 --> 00:32:20,850
Guantanamo Bay, Congress
wouldn't let him so let's not

536
00:32:21,030 --> 00:32:25,020
spread bullshit right away.
Okay.

537
00:32:25,410 --> 00:32:27,870
Oh, wait, you you're telling me
that when he got into office and

538
00:32:27,870 --> 00:32:31,260
had owned the Senate and own the
house of representatives and had

539
00:32:31,260 --> 00:32:34,620
the executive branch he tried to
close Guantanamo Bay, but

540
00:32:34,860 --> 00:32:38,460
Congress me But John, because
all Democrats wouldn't look at

541
00:32:38,460 --> 00:32:39,240
him. If you

542
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,660
wrote a million dollar check.
And wouldn't you be pissed off

543
00:32:42,660 --> 00:32:45,420
now to and when to be like
trying to say anything to defend

544
00:32:45,450 --> 00:32:49,440
that money that you gave? Yeah,
it wasn't his fault, man. And

545
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,650
I'm not dumb. I'm not done with
my money. Alright, do we play

546
00:32:52,650 --> 00:32:53,430
this other thing here?

547
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,930
No, no, don't play that. Yeah.

548
00:32:55,620 --> 00:32:59,190
What can I play you then? To
Chris Matthews, just just

549
00:32:59,190 --> 00:33:02,790
because he's funny, not because
people watch him anymore. He

550
00:33:02,790 --> 00:33:07,230
can't do anything. But to take
it to race all the time. He

551
00:33:07,230 --> 00:33:09,900
always has to say it's, you
know, they don't want the black

552
00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:13,560
man in the White House. But he I
mean, of all the things you can

553
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,270
say as a as a person on a news
channel. The things that Chris

554
00:33:18,270 --> 00:33:20,610
Matthews says is just ludicrous.
And

555
00:33:20,610 --> 00:33:23,610
the scandal Peter, what again to
you why did they get the idea?

556
00:33:23,610 --> 00:33:27,480
If it isn't ethnic? And I'll
just leave the possibility. Why

557
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,020
did they just assume evil on the
part of Obama? I mean, he's

558
00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:34,080
raised this light his whole life
has been crystal clear and clean

559
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,750
as a whistle and transparent we
know his whole life through all

560
00:33:36,750 --> 00:33:39,510
the great excellent education
he's had the good part working

561
00:33:39,510 --> 00:33:41,430
through a pro bono work he's
done throughout his life he's

562
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:44,190
never been a money grubber. He's
never done anything wrong in his

563
00:33:44,190 --> 00:33:47,910
life legally ethically. Whatever
his family is picture perfect

564
00:33:47,910 --> 00:33:48,660
the rays Well, I

565
00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:52,110
hope I gotta stop I gotta stop.
Oh, mom. We don't want his his

566
00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:53,820
school records are sealed.

567
00:33:54,090 --> 00:33:56,610
He's in he's in it. There's no
evidence he ever went to

568
00:33:56,610 --> 00:33:57,570
Columbia. He's

569
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,530
He's admitted to breaking the
law by smoking weed and snorting

570
00:34:01,530 --> 00:34:12,180
coke. He's lied about his or, at
least there was about it was

571
00:34:12,180 --> 00:34:15,840
born in Kenya. So this you know,
there's definitely smudges.

572
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,870
Everybody has smudges, to say
the least. But to say, according

573
00:34:18,870 --> 00:34:20,070
to Chris, well, he does

574
00:34:20,429 --> 00:34:23,429
something wrong in his life
legally, ethically, whatever his

575
00:34:23,429 --> 00:34:26,759
family is picture perfect. The
rays race those daughters, that

576
00:34:26,759 --> 00:34:30,209
the marriage everything is clean
as a whistle, and that they just

577
00:34:30,209 --> 00:34:34,529
refer them as evil. They just
refer to Mr. Scott, stick with

578
00:34:34,529 --> 00:34:36,869
these people. They just got a
problem with the Senate

579
00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:39,389
President Nick. Well, is there
any other evidence to justify

580
00:34:39,389 --> 00:34:41,669
why they keep calling him a bad
man? Yeah,

581
00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:44,969
he's a bad man. Clean as a
whistle.

582
00:34:45,179 --> 00:34:49,409
You should talk to chunk. liar.
Liar Liar.

583
00:34:49,710 --> 00:34:51,390
And Tommy's Mickey called.

584
00:34:51,780 --> 00:34:55,830
He's the last holdout amongst
the left. I mean, even democracy

585
00:34:55,830 --> 00:34:59,790
now is all over this guy. I
know. I know. I know. I know. I

586
00:34:59,790 --> 00:35:03,090
know. Did the last hold up?
Because he was the first guy who

587
00:35:03,090 --> 00:35:09,450
said, Well, what makes me I feel
the tingling up my leg? Yeah, of

588
00:35:09,450 --> 00:35:11,880
course I remember. He loved the
man so much.

589
00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:15,510
In a band crush, Miss Mickey,

590
00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:21,480
I called. I spoke to her Friday
or Saturday, anyway. And so she

591
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,610
told me what's going on. I said,
you know, people are freaking

592
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,850
out here. She says, Well, what
and so I told the story about

593
00:35:26,910 --> 00:35:29,790
him, because that really hasn't.
It's only now starting to really

594
00:35:29,790 --> 00:35:33,630
pop in the in the press where we
have a culture here in America

595
00:35:33,630 --> 00:35:36,780
where people get you're seeing
it, I'm getting messages from

596
00:35:36,780 --> 00:35:39,840
people saying, Man, you were
right, is the guy's insane. And

597
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,260
of course, Huffington Post,
literally took a picture that

598
00:35:43,260 --> 00:35:48,570
was one of our album art pieces
of work. And put under a George

599
00:35:48,570 --> 00:35:53,580
W. Obama, I mean, literally took
where we used God, two years

600
00:35:53,580 --> 00:35:56,160
ago, maybe, I'm sure they just
did a Google search with the

601
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,370
images, and it came up with it.
And there it was. And so you're

602
00:35:59,370 --> 00:36:03,420
seeing the really, truly the
Obama boss just freaking out.

603
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:09,540
And so I tell Mickey, this. And
she says, this is fantastic. I'm

604
00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:13,440
like, What do you mean? It's
like, No, this is great. Because

605
00:36:13,470 --> 00:36:16,380
now people, this is going to be
great for the show people are

606
00:36:16,380 --> 00:36:18,690
going to wake up, they're
starting to figure things out.

607
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:22,110
Oh, that's a very positive way
of looking at it. I think that's

608
00:36:22,110 --> 00:36:25,320
great. And I subsequently went,
Okay, I've got to find out

609
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,990
what's really going on, because
this cannot this cannot be the

610
00:36:27,990 --> 00:36:31,530
truth. This cannot be happening.
I have I think I have a theory

611
00:36:31,530 --> 00:36:32,160
if you will, let

612
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,130
me finish with what I was
discussing earlier, which was

613
00:36:35,130 --> 00:36:37,410
this column I wrote, which
discussed the, you know, we

614
00:36:37,410 --> 00:36:40,380
already knew about this, this
network analysis thing has been

615
00:36:40,380 --> 00:36:42,600
going on, like this guy said,
the 90s, which seemed to have

616
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,700
stunned Bill Maher's. And I've,
I've seen the demo in the 90s.

617
00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:52,500
And what's going on now is this
collection of, no, you have to

618
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,860
listen to the end of this, this
thesis, the collection of all

619
00:36:55,860 --> 00:36:59,910
phone calls all the time, into
this end, like Obama says,

620
00:36:59,910 --> 00:37:03,150
nobody's listening. They're just
collecting. And, and I think

621
00:37:03,150 --> 00:37:05,460
this is genius, by the way, and
I point this out in the column,

622
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:09,600
the idea will be in the future,
that if they are going to

623
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:15,000
subpoena your phone records,
they will subpoena your old

624
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,110
calls, of course, they'll
they'll pull out the whole file

625
00:37:19,110 --> 00:37:21,750
of everything you've talked
about since 2002. And they'll

626
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:25,350
listen to it after they get the
court order. But meanwhile, it's

627
00:37:25,350 --> 00:37:28,530
already there and they aren't
yet it's already there ready to

628
00:37:28,530 --> 00:37:31,230
be looked at if you get a
warrant? So you're gonna stick

629
00:37:31,230 --> 00:37:34,380
with the law but here's any I
here's what I think the genius

630
00:37:34,380 --> 00:37:38,490
is and I think the argument is
this if I if somebody gets a

631
00:37:38,490 --> 00:37:42,240
warrant to come into my house to
look for evidence that I've you

632
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:43,740
know, done something they can
only

633
00:37:43,740 --> 00:37:45,750
they can only look at for that
one piece of evidence

634
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:52,260
but they are looking for stuff
that indicates something I

635
00:37:52,260 --> 00:37:55,320
already did it's actually
looking into the past when they

636
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,800
come into my house that's the
argument you're gonna use for

637
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,650
these phone calls. All we're
doing is doing what we do with

638
00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:05,220
any other kind of warrant we're
looking in the past we couldn't

639
00:38:05,220 --> 00:38:07,710
do that before we could get a
wiretap and we can start

640
00:38:07,710 --> 00:38:08,580
listening to you

641
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:11,850
here we go let's let's look into
the past let's look into

642
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,020
so you could go and you grab I
get grab all of Adam Curry's old

643
00:38:19,020 --> 00:38:21,870
phone calls they've been stored
in their safe nobody's been

644
00:38:21,870 --> 00:38:24,690
listening to but now with the
court order I can and I'm doing

645
00:38:24,690 --> 00:38:28,110
the same thing I would be doing
if I went into your house, I'm

646
00:38:28,110 --> 00:38:32,430
looking for stuff that relates
to a past thing. That's exactly

647
00:38:32,430 --> 00:38:35,730
what this is. And there's a good
way with this. Everybody's calls

648
00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:38,490
are gonna be recorded forever.
Yes, it's safe is going to be

649
00:38:38,490 --> 00:38:41,340
there. It's not going to be you
know, listened to but casually

650
00:38:41,370 --> 00:38:45,450
although that could happen, by
the way. So can't overlook that

651
00:38:45,450 --> 00:38:46,170
possibility.

652
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,870
This is the this is the you'll
hear this now. Because I noticed

653
00:38:51,870 --> 00:38:54,870
this as well. You will hear
people talking about getting a

654
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:59,490
court order to go and listen to
them not to listen to wire isn't

655
00:38:59,490 --> 00:39:02,190
the word is no longer wiretap.
It's go and listen to your

656
00:39:02,190 --> 00:39:05,730
calls. And I think you're spot
on with this, that everything

657
00:39:05,730 --> 00:39:10,140
has been recorded, and they will
go back and and they will then

658
00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:14,220
subsequently have everything and
my God, what a what a what a

659
00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:16,320
bunch of evidence do you have,
then that's

660
00:39:16,350 --> 00:39:18,720
Yeah, and I would call this a
reverse wire.

661
00:39:19,379 --> 00:39:20,969
Ooh, like it's a post crime.

662
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:27,300
It's a post crime and you use a
reverse wire. It's just it's

663
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:30,270
just genius. And nobody's
talking about this all they're

664
00:39:30,270 --> 00:39:33,240
talking about as this, you know,
which is funny, because they

665
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:35,970
can't seem to defend themselves
against this thing that's been

666
00:39:35,970 --> 00:39:39,060
going on since the 90 which 90s,
which is just getting met

667
00:39:39,060 --> 00:39:41,880
metadata from the phone
companies. And I think by the

668
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,160
way, getting the emails which
they're doing the same thing

669
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,490
with from Google and all these
email providers, they're storing

670
00:39:47,490 --> 00:39:49,500
all that stuff, too. And that
will be part when you get a

671
00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:52,710
warrant. You also grab all that
old email that you've done on

672
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:54,480
your Gmail, this is why you
should have your own mail

673
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,320
server, by the way.

674
00:39:55,350 --> 00:39:59,310
Yeah. Which I think I've had for
the past five years. Exactly.

675
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,330
Would you like to hear my theory
what I've, what I've uncovered

676
00:40:03,330 --> 00:40:06,090
what I've come up with here on
this because there's a lot of

677
00:40:06,090 --> 00:40:07,170
loose ends. First of

678
00:40:07,170 --> 00:40:09,420
all, let's get the Clip of the
Day for the Chris Matthews.

679
00:40:10,889 --> 00:40:13,919
I want it to be some for
something of value not just

680
00:40:14,909 --> 00:40:19,409
lame. Terrible. Let's thank our
producers first I think we have

681
00:40:19,409 --> 00:40:22,529
a very short list. We do have a
long list of big swath enough

682
00:40:22,529 --> 00:40:25,259
Day Of course we'll get into
that in a moment. Actually,

683
00:40:25,290 --> 00:40:29,700
almost everybody was a was a
Swasey lover. We broke the

684
00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:33,180
record with do that get to that
later. Yeah, but right now let's

685
00:40:33,210 --> 00:40:43,890
take a look at as I open it.
Yeah. Okay, we have a way always

686
00:40:43,890 --> 00:40:47,670
opens in this funny way. Halfway
down. We have one executive

687
00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:52,650
producer and one Associate
Executive Producer for show 520

688
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:57,630
No 520 club member sir Craig of
Mahna Mahna Mahna Mahna. In the

689
00:40:57,630 --> 00:41:02,580
UK, Dorothy and Lillian, he
addresses us finally i proper on

690
00:41:02,610 --> 00:41:05,550
the comment box for my Pay Pal
calm and finally found it okay.

691
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,200
And the irony is I have nothing
to say. Except to request some

692
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,510
job karma and a dash of travel
karma on the side for my

693
00:41:12,540 --> 00:41:13,380
upcoming holiday.

694
00:41:13,710 --> 00:41:16,140
Absolutely, sir. Kreger
phenomena. Thank you very much

695
00:41:16,530 --> 00:41:21,480
from Dorothea karma. Thank you
for addressing us properly by

696
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,340
our proper names Dorothy and
Lillian.

697
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:30,420
And we have Henry Reese of
Nagoya, Japan. I thought sent me

698
00:41:30,420 --> 00:41:34,440
a note. I don't recall an email
so maybe I don't know it came in

699
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,280
the mail. Okay, well, I'm sorry.

700
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,580
No, that's not that's not
sufficient.

701
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,610
To 66 sucks I have to go
downstairs and dig around but I

702
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,710
do need to write the notes up
but I don't see him

703
00:41:46,740 --> 00:41:48,720
when you come to school. You
need to come prepared.

704
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,090
Maybe this is it. No this isn't
it.

705
00:41:51,690 --> 00:41:54,060
I mean, dog ate your homework.

706
00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:56,250
Oh, wait a minute. Uh huh.

707
00:41:56,580 --> 00:41:57,990
So yeah, I'm not given up that
easy.

708
00:41:58,020 --> 00:42:00,150
Oh, okay. No, the bit Hold on a
second.

709
00:42:01,650 --> 00:42:09,480
holding on. holding on. I'm
still holding on maybe I'll play

710
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,070
some Harry Reid while we're
holding on

711
00:42:11,940 --> 00:42:14,490
right now. I think we should
every just everyone should just

712
00:42:14,490 --> 00:42:17,700
calm down and understand this
isn't anything that is brand

713
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:20,970
new. It's been going on for some
seven years. And we've tried

714
00:42:22,770 --> 00:42:26,250
often to try to make it better
and we'll continue to do that

715
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,880
calm down slaves resume normal
activities is Harry Reid.

716
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:35,520
What did he even say call game
he says so. I was looking at

717
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,700
last week's notes that are
brought to this desk. Make a

718
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:41,100
Sunday donation. I like the
shortlist of producers. I'm

719
00:42:41,460 --> 00:42:45,660
donating to 6667 to get me
halfway to knighthood. There

720
00:42:45,660 --> 00:42:48,720
John and Adam Henry Reese, from
Gitmo nation teetering.

721
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,250
Teetering. Yeah, teetering. As
in ready to collapse, the

722
00:42:53,250 --> 00:42:55,350
collapse? Yeah, I guess on the
edge. Very nice

723
00:42:55,380 --> 00:42:59,910
living here on a broken income
in Nagoya, Japan. Adam, yes.

724
00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:04,980
Stop with the Joe Biden
President routine. Why? I don't

725
00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:06,090
know. He doesn't say why.

726
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:10,080
And may I point out He's scaring
me. I point out that a number of

727
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,640
people sent in and said, Here's
what happened with Gerald Ford.

728
00:43:16,350 --> 00:43:21,870
Gerald Ford became president was
never elected. And what happened

729
00:43:21,870 --> 00:43:28,110
is Spiro Agnew had to leave
because he was caught cheating,

730
00:43:28,350 --> 00:43:32,160
or taking a bribe. And then
President Nixon said, oh, you

731
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,500
know what, why don't I bring in
this guy, Gerald Ford, then

732
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:38,730
Nixon got impeached or he left
during his impeachment. Gerald

733
00:43:38,730 --> 00:43:43,110
Ford became President. First
time a man became president who

734
00:43:43,110 --> 00:43:46,110
was not elected for any office.
So my theory

735
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,130
could actually I thought Gerald
Ford was a senator or something

736
00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:50,730
somewhere.

737
00:43:51,630 --> 00:43:53,430
He was, huh.

738
00:43:53,549 --> 00:43:56,999
Yeah, look at knowledge. Yeah.
Oh,

739
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:06,210
let me see. I have I actually
did look it up. And here we go.

740
00:44:09,180 --> 00:44:16,050
To so hard to read the book of
knowledge. But a lot of a number

741
00:44:16,050 --> 00:44:21,900
of people sent this to me. I
don't think he was darling. See,

742
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:25,440
on October 10. Agnew resigned,
pleaded no contest to criminal

743
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,160
charges

744
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:32,070
or representatives. Okay, House
member from 49 to 73. Long Haul

745
00:44:32,070 --> 00:44:32,670
in the house.

746
00:44:33,210 --> 00:44:37,500
But he was not ready, buddy. But
the point is, he was not elected

747
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:40,110
to the executive office and
certainly not elected to be

748
00:44:40,110 --> 00:44:40,710
president.

749
00:44:40,770 --> 00:44:43,920
No, it was a fluke. But you said
he was never elected to an exec

750
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:44,310
any

751
00:44:44,340 --> 00:44:47,220
I'm sorry. All right. Well,
maybe it was Boy Scout leader.

752
00:44:48,060 --> 00:44:50,460
Now it's 1070. He was still in
the house. He was pulled from

753
00:44:50,460 --> 00:44:51,000
the house.

754
00:44:51,090 --> 00:44:56,280
But what's interesting is House
Speaker Carl Albert said we gave

755
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,510
Nixon no choice but Ford so you
can smell some good smell it.

756
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,670
I'm kind of set up there. And of
course, he was a boob.

757
00:45:06,810 --> 00:45:10,290
Actually, he was considered
really a good house member. Not

758
00:45:10,290 --> 00:45:13,530
a boob at all. Well, anyway,
let's get right to the letter

759
00:45:13,530 --> 00:45:18,030
from our friend in Japan. John,
I also heard stories of candles

760
00:45:18,030 --> 00:45:21,750
burning down many fine old
houses during my hippie days in

761
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:27,630
Eugene and Portland. Okay, yeah,
it needs some karma. A de

762
00:45:27,630 --> 00:45:29,370
douching and a noodle guy.

763
00:45:30,270 --> 00:45:31,200
A noodle guy.

764
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:32,640
Wow, the new guy.

765
00:45:32,940 --> 00:45:35,550
That noodle the whole noodle kid
clip? Yeah,

766
00:45:35,580 --> 00:45:37,230
I'm always game for it.

767
00:45:38,670 --> 00:45:41,850
Okay, you caught me off guard
here. You know, let me see.

768
00:45:41,850 --> 00:45:46,470
Where's the I have a noodle
laugh? I think I have that. Let

769
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:53,520
me see what this I don't know. I
don't think do I have them? Do I

770
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,690
have the noodle? Cool? Was that
you catching me off guard with

771
00:45:57,690 --> 00:46:00,030
this you'd like oh, no, we need
the noodle guy. I don't want to

772
00:46:00,030 --> 00:46:02,640
do the karma and the devolution
first I mean could be douche

773
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:12,570
first. You've been de Deus.
You've got karma? I didn't know

774
00:46:12,570 --> 00:46:14,280
you didn't. There was there was
no idea.

775
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,410
We will give him the noodle guy
when you find it.

776
00:46:16,860 --> 00:46:20,040
I feel bad. I don't have the
noodle kid ready?

777
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,670
Yeah, I always thought it was at
the ready. So anyway, those are

778
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:28,470
Executive Associate Executive
producers for show for 520. And

779
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:30,840
by the end, I want to thank them
and remind people that we do

780
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,940
have a show coming up on
Thursday. And we need to

781
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,820
continue to support the
work.org/in

782
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,280
A Yes, indeed. Here's your
noodles kid.

783
00:46:38,490 --> 00:46:41,820
Well, like I described earlier,
there are two fundamental

784
00:46:41,820 --> 00:46:45,630
classes that are just a plain
fact in society. You either work

785
00:46:45,630 --> 00:46:48,540
for someone else, or you work
for yourself. And most people

786
00:46:48,540 --> 00:46:53,010
work for someone else in a way
that they aren't free. You don't

787
00:46:53,010 --> 00:46:56,400
really get to decide your work.
For example, I work at noodles a

788
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,390
restaurant. And basically it's a
dictatorship. They're told

789
00:47:00,390 --> 00:47:02,730
exactly what we're going to
cook, how we're going to cook

790
00:47:02,730 --> 00:47:05,850
it, what time we're going to get
there. And basically, if they

791
00:47:05,850 --> 00:47:09,120
don't like what they're doing,
they try to tell us what to do.

792
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,910
If they don't listen, they get
rid of us. And so we were not

793
00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:14,670
able to actually cooperate in a
way that we make decisions

794
00:47:14,670 --> 00:47:18,270
together. I tried to convince my
my fellow employees that we

795
00:47:18,270 --> 00:47:21,900
should have a union at noodles.
So it's a source of power to

796
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:24,870
start with. And then I think in
terms of the bigger picture,

797
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:28,290
when you look at revolutions,
the way that you actually get

798
00:47:28,290 --> 00:47:32,760
rid of any sort of dictatorship,
is by having workers take

799
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:38,220
control of the place where they
work. Would your plan your

800
00:47:38,220 --> 00:47:42,930
vision for noodles? Sure. Would
it include the owner, what

801
00:47:42,930 --> 00:47:48,720
capacity if the owner wanted to
cooperate with us as an equal

802
00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:52,260
and provide his skills that he
had? We would definitely

803
00:47:52,260 --> 00:47:55,860
cooperate with him we'd have to
abdicate his position as being

804
00:47:55,860 --> 00:47:59,430
an owner and controller of us
and he would have to recognize

805
00:47:59,430 --> 00:48:04,710
that we noodles together and
basically if he doesn't want to

806
00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:06,390
cooperate with us, he's against

807
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:12,030
us. There you go. Against us
they make it they tell us what

808
00:48:12,030 --> 00:48:13,200
we have to cook man

809
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,030
and if we they tell us what time
to come in.

810
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:22,020
This is bad. This is the
dictator. Oh, man. Well, there

811
00:48:22,020 --> 00:48:24,090
you go once in a while you got
to bring the noodle kid out and

812
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,430
he little kid we need to bring
him in once every six months.

813
00:48:26,430 --> 00:48:27,540
Yeah, we got to do it. It's

814
00:48:27,870 --> 00:48:31,050
like clockwork, it always just
picks me up and it gives me a

815
00:48:31,050 --> 00:48:31,770
little boost.

816
00:48:32,460 --> 00:48:33,420
So well,

817
00:48:33,810 --> 00:48:39,450
let me let me do the
whole.org/and A and let me say

818
00:48:39,450 --> 00:48:41,010
in the morning to you John C.
Dvorak.

819
00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:43,230
Good morning to you Adam curry
in the morning all ships and sea

820
00:48:43,230 --> 00:48:45,810
boots on the ground feet in the
air subs in the water and all

821
00:48:45,810 --> 00:48:47,430
the days and nights out and to

822
00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:50,250
our artists. Thank you very
much. Joshua Pettigrew, who

823
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,300
created the art for episode 519
are highly appreciated. No

824
00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:57,960
agenda rt generator.com is where
you can find more information

825
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,750
and already playing a role in
today's show. Thank you very

826
00:49:00,750 --> 00:49:04,680
much for the chat room. No
agenda chat.net no agenda

827
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,410
stream.com Did I get that the
right way around? I'm not sure.

828
00:49:07,620 --> 00:49:10,650
And you out there. Please
continue to propagate our

829
00:49:10,650 --> 00:49:16,110
formula. Our formula is this. We
go out. We hit people in the

830
00:49:16,110 --> 00:49:16,410
mouth

831
00:49:32,610 --> 00:49:36,060
think that's an evergreen?
Whatever it is with the

832
00:49:36,060 --> 00:49:39,540
noodles, laugh. Laugh it's in
the Evergreen box. That's why I

833
00:49:39,540 --> 00:49:41,130
grabbed it is I don't know what
it is.

834
00:49:42,030 --> 00:49:44,160
So a friend of mine and you said

835
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,450
so you said so. We got to stop
saying so. Thank you. I

836
00:49:48,450 --> 00:49:51,150
appreciated it four times myself
this morning and it's bugging

837
00:49:51,150 --> 00:49:52,050
the shit out of me.

838
00:49:52,350 --> 00:49:55,590
I haven't heard it. But I should
be paying careful more careful

839
00:49:55,590 --> 00:49:58,650
attention to catch doing it. Go
ahead. Yes, we are trying to for

840
00:49:58,650 --> 00:50:00,750
anyone listening. We're trying
to live mandate the use of the

841
00:50:00,750 --> 00:50:01,650
word so

842
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,060
miss some other words and or
ever. Yes, awesome, amazing,

843
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:11,070
amazing Amanda's out and any and
any who was also off the list

844
00:50:11,790 --> 00:50:14,730
that was that was never on the
list was I'm telling

845
00:50:14,730 --> 00:50:17,190
you that we're scrambling my
brains. I know that we're

846
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:19,860
scrambling my brains. Can I kind
of give you my theory or do you

847
00:50:19,860 --> 00:50:22,350
want to talk about your UK guy?
It could be elitist.

848
00:50:22,380 --> 00:50:24,780
I just want to mention that we
have a friend of mine actually.

849
00:50:25,410 --> 00:50:29,700
Theresa Holcomb is married to a
famous harmonica player who must

850
00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:35,040
he'll cringe as he hears me. And
I got them into the show because

851
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,530
Theresa came out to visit with
Mimi, they're all down here

852
00:50:37,530 --> 00:50:39,060
partying. And so

853
00:50:39,630 --> 00:50:42,300
wait a minute, you're partying?
Well, I

854
00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:44,460
was at I was doing working on
the show what kind of party

855
00:50:44,460 --> 00:50:47,220
they're doing. And they're out
floating around. I have no idea.

856
00:50:47,370 --> 00:50:51,660
I'm hanging out with comics. Oh,
well, Teresa's a comic and sent

857
00:50:51,660 --> 00:50:55,860
me me used to produce it. So
anyway, so I said, so again.

858
00:50:55,890 --> 00:50:58,200
Yep. I caught it the second
time. All right.

859
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,830
It's hard. It's hard. It's very
hard. It's very hard.

860
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,540
It's gonna be a tough one. Yeah.
I noticed that Obama was saying

861
00:51:06,540 --> 00:51:08,700
the fact of the matter, the fact
of the matter. The fact of the

862
00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:12,990
matter is we broken ourselves of
that horrible habit. So I did it

863
00:51:12,990 --> 00:51:14,280
again. Anyway.

864
00:51:16,020 --> 00:51:18,840
Just don't. It's hard. It's
hard. I know.

865
00:51:19,290 --> 00:51:23,790
Theresa said that, that MIT was
a conspiracy turning into a

866
00:51:23,790 --> 00:51:26,010
conspiracy, not UK style.

867
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,700
Who was her husband? You mean?
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And I

868
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:32,190
said, Well, you've got to get
him to listen to the no agenda

869
00:51:32,190 --> 00:51:36,090
show, right? She gotten to
listen to the show. And he says

870
00:51:36,090 --> 00:51:39,540
he can't understand a word we're
taught. He just appeared. And I

871
00:51:39,540 --> 00:51:42,690
was listening to our, the way we
did the opening. And we started

872
00:51:42,690 --> 00:51:46,290
to talk about our producers and
the douchebags and all the rest.

873
00:51:46,530 --> 00:51:50,850
And I realized that we're so way
ahead of a new listener. Yeah.

874
00:51:51,390 --> 00:51:58,140
It's really problematic. I said,
You've got to read the note, the

875
00:51:58,140 --> 00:52:01,290
no agenda page in the Wikipedia,
and maybe that would help. It's

876
00:52:01,290 --> 00:52:02,460
tea time, everybody.

877
00:52:02,850 --> 00:52:08,040
Maybe he understands that. Or
this is my favorite. This is a

878
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:13,080
fact. The fact. So he couldn't
understand any of it. And I

879
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,920
said, so. He could not
understand any of did he give

880
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,680
up? Did he did he get into it?
At a certain point? You

881
00:52:20,310 --> 00:52:21,630
understand what's going on?

882
00:52:22,380 --> 00:52:24,030
Still, he hasn't given up yet.

883
00:52:25,590 --> 00:52:29,160
Okay, let's try this on. And
maybe this will work. I'm 11.

884
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,580
And even I can split a douche
bag. Daughter seems to

885
00:52:32,580 --> 00:52:36,540
understand this. His daughter?
Yeah, cool. I like it. That's a

886
00:52:36,540 --> 00:52:42,960
good jingle. By the way. I like
that one a lot. All right. After

887
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,400
the after the conversation with
Miss Mickey. I'm thinking I have

888
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,700
to think like no agenda. And
it's been very good being

889
00:52:51,150 --> 00:52:55,560
completely isolated. Because the
path I went down, I don't think

890
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,160
I if I had been distracted by
anything, I might not have

891
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:04,320
figured out a few interesting
points in this whole prism

892
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,550
affair. If the main thing as a
no agenda, producer and I put

893
00:53:08,550 --> 00:53:11,490
myself in the in the listeners
chair and our listeners, our

894
00:53:11,490 --> 00:53:15,690
producers, it was all a little
too easy. You know what I mean?

895
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:17,910
I felt the same way

896
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:21,900
it looked rigged. Yeah, a little
rig. And I'm like, I lead

897
00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:24,660
and here's another thing when
you're doing these like why at

898
00:53:24,660 --> 00:53:28,290
the bottom of that of the
slides, it says top secret.

899
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,720
Unless face isn't that to be a
little weird.

900
00:53:30,990 --> 00:53:34,230
They need some templates or
something. But PowerPoints,

901
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,440
PowerPoint presentation,
generally speaking, especially

902
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,350
to a larger group, would you put
all that crap at the bottom? I

903
00:53:40,350 --> 00:53:42,480
don't think so. I think that was
just

904
00:53:43,110 --> 00:53:47,970
okay. So you had the same
feeling I had. And the journey

905
00:53:47,970 --> 00:53:53,820
really started for me with an
interview on a podcast. I feel

906
00:53:53,820 --> 00:53:57,450
stupid. I forgot the name of the
podcast. Well, the the guy who

907
00:53:57,450 --> 00:54:01,260
was being interviewed is Ray
McGovern. And Ray McGovern was

908
00:54:01,260 --> 00:54:07,050
an analyst for the CIA during
the Kennedy administration. And

909
00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:10,440
he's a blog and he's a blogger.
Now, essentially, he's retired.

910
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:15,810
And he's on the program, because
he wrote this article called

911
00:54:15,810 --> 00:54:20,190
doubting Obama's resolve to do
right. wherein he essentially

912
00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:23,580
calls the President or worse,
and I'll get to why he call him

913
00:54:23,580 --> 00:54:26,850
that in a moment. Um, so here's
just like, I think 30 or 40

914
00:54:26,850 --> 00:54:30,750
seconds of part of the okay.
Yeah, I'm okay. It was a weird

915
00:54:30,750 --> 00:54:38,280
sound. Here is part of what kind
of got me on to this. This is a

916
00:54:38,850 --> 00:54:41,730
an anecdote that I found very
interesting. And

917
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,930
I know from a good friend who
was there when it happened at a

918
00:54:45,930 --> 00:54:50,970
small dinner with progressive
supporters after these

919
00:54:50,970 --> 00:54:54,870
progressive supporters were
banging on Obama before the

920
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:58,620
election. Why don't you do the
things we thought you stood for?

921
00:54:58,770 --> 00:55:02,490
Obama turned sharp Leon said,
don't you remember what happened

922
00:55:02,490 --> 00:55:06,810
to Martin Luther King Jr. That's
a quote. And that's a very

923
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:11,850
revealing quote. The other thing
is, I've always been kind of

924
00:55:11,850 --> 00:55:16,470
shocked that when he came into
office, not only did he not

925
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:21,210
prosecute the tortures of the
kidnappers, the people with the

926
00:55:21,210 --> 00:55:25,020
black prisons so that even the
people who violated our Fourth

927
00:55:25,020 --> 00:55:28,980
Amendment rights, he left them
all in place. And, you know, I

928
00:55:28,980 --> 00:55:33,690
suspected at the time now, I'm
pretty convinced the president

929
00:55:33,690 --> 00:55:35,520
United States is afraid of the
CIA.

930
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:40,440
So I hope I said it. I really
liked that where he said, the

931
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,250
President of the United States
is afraid of the CIA. And this

932
00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:49,260
makes sense. In our general
thesis that we need, we've

933
00:55:49,260 --> 00:55:52,860
been saying this for what Yes,
well, since the first election

934
00:55:52,860 --> 00:55:55,350
says Obama first got elected
weed writers a feud?

935
00:55:55,380 --> 00:55:59,400
Well, not just a few. But even
Ron Paul said, Watch, actually

936
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,260
look for that clip, I couldn't
find it where he said, Look, the

937
00:56:01,260 --> 00:56:04,170
CIA is taken over the run,
they're running the joints, what

938
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:05,700
it took, it took it from you.

939
00:56:06,990 --> 00:56:11,430
It's been scrubbed, and scrubbed
it. Now in his article in this

940
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:15,540
sentence, and by the way, I have
an outline for in the show

941
00:56:15,540 --> 00:56:19,650
notes, which is not just an
outline, but also indented. And

942
00:56:19,740 --> 00:56:22,620
this whole story I'm about to
tell you, you can go and follow

943
00:56:22,620 --> 00:56:25,290
the steps and see if I went
wrong, or see if you'd like what

944
00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:28,860
I came up with. So you can do
that after the fact, five to

945
00:56:28,860 --> 00:56:34,290
zero.na shownotes.com. So in
this article, he says, The CIA

946
00:56:34,380 --> 00:56:38,970
is messing with Obama's head.
And this is where he contradicts

947
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:44,130
our initial theory, and says the
hecklers are put in place by the

948
00:56:44,130 --> 00:56:50,910
CIA to show Obama we can get to
you at any time. Like, wow,

949
00:56:50,910 --> 00:56:51,210
that'll

950
00:56:51,210 --> 00:56:54,690
leave aesthesis to I think we
there was a number of incidents

951
00:56:54,690 --> 00:56:59,370
where suddenly something crazy
happened, which was that sort of

952
00:56:59,370 --> 00:57:04,170
thing. I can't remember the
details. But we've spotted this

953
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,000
this trick a couple of times.

954
00:57:06,359 --> 00:57:08,909
But, but this has been
happening, this has been

955
00:57:08,909 --> 00:57:13,319
happening a lot in recent
memory. And so you take into

956
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:16,019
account, the President saying,
Hey, man, I don't want to be

957
00:57:16,019 --> 00:57:18,929
Martin Luther King, I don't want
to get shot. And that he's

958
00:57:18,929 --> 00:57:22,889
afraid. And then the CIA
possibly, and I think it's more

959
00:57:22,889 --> 00:57:28,439
likely than a scripted. The way
we talked on the last show, but

960
00:57:28,439 --> 00:57:30,989
we certainly have discussed, I
think it seems more likely, this

961
00:57:30,989 --> 00:57:33,629
is a way of saying, oh, you know
what, we can get anyone into

962
00:57:33,629 --> 00:57:36,749
anywhere. Oh, by the way, your
wife, here we go. We've got

963
00:57:36,749 --> 00:57:40,289
people right in front. Whatever
you do, we got our eyes on you.

964
00:57:40,709 --> 00:57:44,969
And I'm like, okay, that makes
sense. Now, how do I bring this

965
00:57:44,999 --> 00:57:49,589
into, into prison? First of all,
the CIA runs everything. Now the

966
00:57:49,589 --> 00:57:55,589
feuds, we without doubt, have
identified and have played many

967
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:59,699
different anecdotes of people
saying the CIA, they hate all

968
00:57:59,699 --> 00:58:02,699
the other intelligence agencies,
I'm pretty sure that they would

969
00:58:02,699 --> 00:58:07,979
love to get one over on the NSA.
So let's presume for a moment,

970
00:58:07,979 --> 00:58:09,089
this may be an

971
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:13,740
NSA has been uncooperative, very
uncooperative. Notice this, we

972
00:58:13,830 --> 00:58:17,580
reported this. I didn't know for
years now the NSA is and they're

973
00:58:17,580 --> 00:58:18,060
arrogant.

974
00:58:18,990 --> 00:58:25,080
Now, what if we could make the
president look bad? At the same

975
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:30,120
time distract everyone from the
true bad actor in the cyber

976
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,880
world not talking about phone
calls, but in the cyber world,

977
00:58:33,330 --> 00:58:36,870
so that we could really continue
our massive surveillance program

978
00:58:37,110 --> 00:58:40,620
without anyone and of course,
hiding in plain sight, without

979
00:58:40,650 --> 00:58:43,260
anyone suspecting what we're
doing, because everyone's

980
00:58:43,260 --> 00:58:49,830
focused on something else. So
let's crap I did it. Looking at

981
00:58:50,190 --> 00:58:53,520
what we know already, obviously,
Google, I mean, are you kidding

982
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:59,610
me? In 2010? Ever, they had to
admit, yes, we have the NSA

983
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,180
Alliance program. This is this
is not like a secret. This has

984
00:59:03,180 --> 00:59:06,840
been out there for years at
Google and the NSA have a

985
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,830
department they have a joint
venture discussed in mainstream

986
00:59:10,830 --> 00:59:17,550
media, even the court the courts
upheld the Google's denial and

987
00:59:17,550 --> 00:59:21,600
the NSA is denial of a Freedom
of Information Act request, that

988
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,900
they could keep it secret. So
this is this is new. Oh, and by

989
00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:29,250
the way, we do all remember that
after 180 days, the government

990
00:59:29,250 --> 00:59:33,330
has the right to read your email
anyway. I mean, this is do we

991
00:59:33,330 --> 00:59:36,630
forget? This isn't the biggest
joke there is right? Did we

992
00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:39,450
forget this all of a sudden that
this has already been out there.

993
00:59:39,450 --> 00:59:39,600
And

994
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:44,040
if your emails over 180 days
old, and it's stored on an email

995
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:48,660
service, any service and many of
them, the government can look at

996
00:59:48,660 --> 00:59:49,560
it without a warrant.

997
00:59:50,610 --> 00:59:52,920
Now let's look at let's just
grab one. Let's look at the

998
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,430
Facebook. So Facebook, we know
that Facebook has one of their

999
00:59:56,430 --> 01:00:02,040
venture capital founding funders
was incude Tell which is, which

1000
01:00:02,070 --> 01:00:06,870
is the intelligence agencies,
venture capital fund and Person

1001
01:00:06,870 --> 01:00:11,910
of the Year 2010. Mark
Zuckerberg Time Magazine. Oh,

1002
01:00:11,940 --> 01:00:14,610
how quickly we forget I pointed
this out to a couple of my Obama

1003
01:00:14,610 --> 01:00:17,490
bot friends who were like, How
is this possible? I said, well,

1004
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:21,780
let's just read your leftist
propaganda. And the relevant

1005
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,160
paragraph from this article from
it was and we talked about this

1006
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,430
on the show that knowing jocks
numerous times, the door opened,

1007
01:00:29,490 --> 01:00:33,180
and a distinguished looking gray
haired man burst in is the only

1008
01:00:33,180 --> 01:00:36,240
way to describe his entrance
trailed by a couple of deputies.

1009
01:00:36,570 --> 01:00:39,720
He was both the oldest person in
the room by 20 years, and the

1010
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,870
only one wearing a suit. He was
in the building, he explained

1011
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,870
with the delighted air of a man
about to secure iron clad

1012
01:00:45,870 --> 01:00:49,140
bragging rights forever. And he
had just had to stop in to

1013
01:00:49,140 --> 01:00:52,620
introduce himself to Zuckerberg,
Robert Mueller, Director of the

1014
01:00:52,620 --> 01:00:57,600
FBI, pleased to meet you. Are
you kidding me? Then we didn't

1015
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,950
know what this paragraph isn't.
So yes, the FBI is

1016
01:01:01,980 --> 01:01:05,850
in that was put in there for
code. I mean, that was put in

1017
01:01:05,850 --> 01:01:09,540
the article. So everyone would
that was in whatever circle that

1018
01:01:09,540 --> 01:01:12,990
was being transmitted to all
okay. Right. But we're good.

1019
01:01:12,990 --> 01:01:15,720
Now. We're in what we're

1020
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,110
seeing is Silicon Valley
freaking out now. Because of

1021
01:01:19,110 --> 01:01:23,220
course, they they, they they
cooperate. It's all part of the

1022
01:01:23,220 --> 01:01:27,570
sharing program. And they're
all. And I truly believe, John,

1023
01:01:27,870 --> 01:01:30,810
that they are they've been taken
off guard. They're like, whoa,

1024
01:01:30,810 --> 01:01:33,840
wait a minute. You're accusing
us of what? So they're all very

1025
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,210
careful with their little
wording. And we don't give you

1026
01:01:36,210 --> 01:01:39,090
direct access and all this
stuff. By the way. Did you see

1027
01:01:39,090 --> 01:01:42,900
Jeff Jarvis defending Google.

1028
01:01:43,650 --> 01:01:46,380
Now, Jeff Jarvis is a Google
student, you might as well just

1029
01:01:46,380 --> 01:01:47,070
work for him.

1030
01:01:47,250 --> 01:01:52,350
It was just I should I should.
He's like, I take Larry Page at

1031
01:01:52,350 --> 01:01:56,850
his literal word. So in other
words, whatever, whatever Larry

1032
01:01:56,850 --> 01:02:00,930
said, literally, I'm I take him
at his word. And then he talks

1033
01:02:00,930 --> 01:02:04,260
about conspiratorial thinking
about these companies. Oh, this

1034
01:02:04,260 --> 01:02:08,400
can't be true. There's no
gambling going on here. Okay,

1035
01:02:08,670 --> 01:02:14,580
but I have a feeling. I have a
feeling that, that they were

1036
01:02:14,580 --> 01:02:18,000
really taken off guard with
this. Now. We look at this

1037
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,150
PowerPoint. And as we just
discussed, I mean, what kind of

1038
01:02:21,150 --> 01:02:25,200
PowerPoint is this? What I found
immediately interesting, was to

1039
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,160
note that Apple was added to the
so called prison program six

1040
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:33,570
months after Steve Jobs died.
And I've always heard I noticed

1041
01:02:33,570 --> 01:02:37,410
that too. I've always heard the
Steve Jobs. This is a definitely

1042
01:02:37,410 --> 01:02:41,640
conspiratorial story. That the
the government always wanted a

1043
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,490
backdoor into everything
Microsoft rolled over like a

1044
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:49,230
like a bitch puppy. And you
know, and yes, you do not need a

1045
01:02:49,230 --> 01:02:52,680
backdoor to break into Windows,
and you can just so easy to

1046
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,940
compromise it. But the jobs
always said no, I'm not going to

1047
01:02:56,940 --> 01:03:00,360
let you into my system. And that
sounds like him. We'll get back

1048
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:01,440
to later fact,

1049
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,900
I know that there was probably
some struggle at Microsoft, I

1050
01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:05,940
don't think they're rolled over
that quickly. Because here's the

1051
01:03:05,940 --> 01:03:11,730
problem with with a lot with
having that NSA dot dat or

1052
01:03:11,730 --> 01:03:13,950
whatever, you know, there was
these little pieces of code that

1053
01:03:13,950 --> 01:03:16,230
were floating around the
windows,

1054
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:19,770
the DLL system, or what the
registry or whatever, yeah,

1055
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:25,950
is that you ruin foreign sales.
I mean, you can't take this

1056
01:03:25,950 --> 01:03:29,850
product correct into France or
Germany, and expect anyone to

1057
01:03:29,850 --> 01:03:34,890
use it if it's just if it's just
a Trojan horse as a whole, for

1058
01:03:34,890 --> 01:03:36,150
the NSA.

1059
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,790
And there's just not possible.
There's all these stories about,

1060
01:03:38,790 --> 01:03:42,450
you know, an Israeli back end
and all these things. But I have

1061
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,080
heard many, many times, Steve
Jobs won't allow that to happen.

1062
01:03:46,140 --> 01:03:48,870
And so I found it interesting.
We'll get back to the Apple

1063
01:03:48,870 --> 01:03:51,420
thing, but I know as well. So
Apple jumps

1064
01:03:51,420 --> 01:03:52,890
on what happened to Steve Jobs?

1065
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,160
Well, I'll get back to that he's
dead. So Apple jumps on board.

1066
01:03:56,460 --> 01:03:57,270
They killed him.

1067
01:03:57,630 --> 01:04:00,030
Would you let me get to my
story? There's so much more to

1068
01:04:00,030 --> 01:04:02,790
talk about. I mean, if that
would be the the conclusion of

1069
01:04:02,790 --> 01:04:05,550
the story, which it is. That
would be sad. There's a lot more

1070
01:04:05,550 --> 01:04:11,820
to talk about, though. So the
leaks come out. Through a guy

1071
01:04:11,820 --> 01:04:15,480
named Glenn Greenwald. You have
to go back to the source of no

1072
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,170
one is questioning this very
disturbing to me. Who is Glenn

1073
01:04:19,170 --> 01:04:20,280
Greenwald, of course.

1074
01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:25,860
Grin. Glenn Greenwald is an
outstanding columnist was a

1075
01:04:25,980 --> 01:04:30,270
total lefty. I do follow him. He
used to be a salon magazine. And

1076
01:04:30,270 --> 01:04:33,630
he's kind of a he's one of those
progressive progressives that's

1077
01:04:33,630 --> 01:04:36,900
gone beyond being an Obama bot
and is nothing but critical of

1078
01:04:36,930 --> 01:04:41,070
the president. And then somehow
I don't know how this even hooks

1079
01:04:41,070 --> 01:04:43,380
up with him, but he's the one
who rolled it out in the garden.

1080
01:04:45,510 --> 01:04:49,740
was something fishy about how
this what the progress was, and

1081
01:04:49,740 --> 01:04:51,330
I'm guessing you're gonna tell
me

1082
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:56,700
yes, that is correct, John.
That's where I started. So I

1083
01:04:56,700 --> 01:04:59,820
here's what I learned briefly
about Glenn Greenwald. He's a

1084
01:04:59,820 --> 01:05:03,030
four I'm a lawyer. He was a
civil rights lawyer. And many

1085
01:05:03,030 --> 01:05:06,210
people have said some nasty
things about his work as a civil

1086
01:05:06,210 --> 01:05:09,450
rights lawyer, but I don't think
that is important. He lives in

1087
01:05:09,450 --> 01:05:14,640
Brazil, with his boyfriend. And
he worked at Salon magazine

1088
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:19,830
since 2007. Before a I would say
a high profile moved to Guardian

1089
01:05:19,830 --> 01:05:24,270
USA less than a year ago. So
Versa Goddamnit I keep saying

1090
01:05:24,270 --> 01:05:31,080
so. To me, very interesting to
see Glenn's move to the

1091
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:37,110
Guardian. And here he is the
biggest story of of the century

1092
01:05:37,110 --> 01:05:41,670
really for him, as you say, he's
so left that he really is, I

1093
01:05:41,670 --> 01:05:45,600
would say he almost hates the
president. And part of his

1094
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,110
reasoning for not liking the
president for many years was the

1095
01:05:49,110 --> 01:05:52,620
defensive Marriage Act. And you
know, he's gay. So he's in

1096
01:05:52,620 --> 01:05:55,650
Brazil, it's like, I can't live
in America, because America is

1097
01:05:55,650 --> 01:05:59,160
all effed up and so I'm living
in Brazil. So there. He's been

1098
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:03,840
very, very critical of all that.
But more importantly, he loves

1099
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:11,010
Petraeus. And I went back to
watch Yes, so yeah, well, let me

1100
01:06:11,010 --> 01:06:14,970
put it this way. Now, he
defended what happened to

1101
01:06:14,970 --> 01:06:18,090
portray us. So portray us, as
you remote, as you recall, was

1102
01:06:18,090 --> 01:06:24,120
director of the CIA. And John
Brennan, who our friend McGovern

1103
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:28,560
says McGovern says, President
Obama brought Brennan in because

1104
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,760
he's so afraid of the CIA. He
thought I have I have loyalty

1105
01:06:32,940 --> 01:06:36,780
from Brennan, so they won't try
to kill me. Because Brennan is

1106
01:06:36,780 --> 01:06:39,630
running the show. Remember, this
is a you know, Brennan is

1107
01:06:39,660 --> 01:06:42,570
appointed by the President. So
the President was so afraid of

1108
01:06:42,570 --> 01:06:45,540
the CIA. He said Brennan and
also he said, let's get the

1109
01:06:45,540 --> 01:06:49,530
drones out of the CIA before
they drone me or whatever. And

1110
01:06:49,530 --> 01:06:54,570
so Brendan was brought in grant
Glenn Greenwald for public

1111
01:06:54,570 --> 01:06:57,840
fights. If you go back and read
his columns, which apparently

1112
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:02,370
you follow him, he was like,
Brennan is the worst guy ever.

1113
01:07:02,370 --> 01:07:05,340
You can't have him in and and
portray us. I just have a little

1114
01:07:05,340 --> 01:07:07,920
clip here from Democracy Now.
Instead of saying, you know,

1115
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,860
what portrays this douchebag
elite as douchebag No, he

1116
01:07:10,890 --> 01:07:14,700
immediately goes and bitches
about the FBI. I think there's a

1117
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:18,990
lot of media focus on the
salacious aspects of this case,

1118
01:07:18,990 --> 01:07:22,410
for reasons that are obvious,
which isn't the media loves sex

1119
01:07:22,410 --> 01:07:26,910
scandals. But there are real
issues arising from this of

1120
01:07:26,910 --> 01:07:30,270
genuine importance and substance
beginning with the fact that the

1121
01:07:30,270 --> 01:07:35,580
FBI based on really no evidence
of any actual crime, engaged in

1122
01:07:35,580 --> 01:07:39,810
this massive surveillance effort
of first obtaining all kinds of

1123
01:07:39,810 --> 01:07:43,470
intimate and private information
about two women, one of whom

1124
01:07:43,470 --> 01:07:46,020
complained, one of whom was the
target of the complaint, Paula

1125
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:50,160
Broadwell. And Joe Kelly,
learned the locations and email

1126
01:07:50,190 --> 01:07:53,460
accounts of Paula Broadwell, who
was the subject of this fairly

1127
01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:56,520
innocuous complaint, read
through all of her emails, learn

1128
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:00,450
the identity of her anonymous
lover, David Petraeus, likely

1129
01:08:00,450 --> 01:08:02,340
read through certainly read
through all of her emails

1130
01:08:02,340 --> 01:08:05,820
probably read through his, and
then in the process, as well

1131
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,870
learned about an affair between
the complaintant Joe Kelly or

1132
01:08:09,870 --> 01:08:12,540
not an affair but inappropriate
communications, as they're

1133
01:08:12,540 --> 01:08:16,410
calling it, and the four star
general in Afghanistan, General

1134
01:08:16,410 --> 01:08:20,310
Allen and then obtain 20 to
30,000 pages of emails between

1135
01:08:20,580 --> 01:08:23,970
them as well. So you're talking
about a massively invasive

1136
01:08:23,970 --> 01:08:27,450
investigation, without any of
their knowledge, obtaining their

1137
01:08:27,450 --> 01:08:30,000
most private and intimate
communications all without

1138
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:34,410
evidence of any predicate crime,
really, without the need, except

1139
01:08:34,410 --> 01:08:37,440
in a few cases for judicial
review or oversight. And to me,

1140
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:41,190
it really illustrates how how
invasive and sprawling this

1141
01:08:41,220 --> 01:08:44,040
unaccountable surveillance state
has become this happens all the

1142
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,610
time, just generally the people
less powerful and influential

1143
01:08:47,820 --> 01:08:50,130
than the two generals in
question here. And so we can

1144
01:08:50,130 --> 01:08:54,300
really learn the lessons, I hope
about what we've allowed the

1145
01:08:54,300 --> 01:08:58,740
government to do in terms of its
investigative powers. Instead of

1146
01:08:58,740 --> 01:09:02,460
saying, well, wow, this is
really not okay with the CIA

1147
01:09:02,460 --> 01:09:04,890
director was doing the title of
his article. That's why he was

1148
01:09:04,890 --> 01:09:08,160
invited on to Democracy Now was
FBI is abuse of the surveillance

1149
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:12,180
state is the real scandal here.
Regarding John Brennan being

1150
01:09:12,180 --> 01:09:16,950
picked the CIA chief, he wrote
Brennan's appointment is

1151
01:09:16,980 --> 01:09:20,850
crossing multiple lines that no
Obama supporter should sanction.

1152
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:26,760
So he was very much against that
very much. So I believe that he

1153
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:32,580
is possibly compromised. And
that's not the first time you

1154
01:09:32,610 --> 01:09:37,620
hear about the CIA, using people
in the press, or writing stories

1155
01:09:37,620 --> 01:09:42,060
for them for the CIA. And I'm
like, okay, maybe maybe this is

1156
01:09:42,090 --> 01:09:46,590
you know, maybe there's
something to this now. So, Glenn

1157
01:09:46,620 --> 01:09:51,120
Greenwald now we have friends,
by the way inside all the

1158
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:56,280
alphabet letter agencies, we
have NSA challenge coins, but I

1159
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,730
have never received anything as
cool as this. I mean, this I

1160
01:09:59,730 --> 01:10:03,780
mean, Getting a PowerPoint like
that. I mean, that's that's it.

1161
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,810
I mean, wow. I mean, we don't
get past the gift shop. But

1162
01:10:06,810 --> 01:10:10,290
Glenn Greenwald in the New York
Times says the leak came from,

1163
01:10:10,440 --> 01:10:15,330
quote a reader of mine, who was
comfortable working with me. The

1164
01:10:15,330 --> 01:10:18,780
source Mr. Greenwald said,
quote, knew the views that I had

1165
01:10:18,810 --> 01:10:24,150
and had an expectation of how I
would display them. I'm thinking

1166
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:29,370
really, is that simple, just
you're telling me that, that we

1167
01:10:29,370 --> 01:10:34,020
have all these people inside the
NSA, and other agencies and but

1168
01:10:34,050 --> 01:10:37,890
but your source gets a hold of
this PowerPoint, so I'm thinking

1169
01:10:37,890 --> 01:10:41,580
this is either bullcrap. Or it's
much higher up than we could

1170
01:10:41,580 --> 01:10:46,590
ever be. Or perhaps maybe it's a
little combination. So now I'm

1171
01:10:46,590 --> 01:10:50,370
going to look into Mr.
Greenwald's history as a

1172
01:10:50,370 --> 01:10:53,700
journalist. So he's a
journalist, he started out at

1173
01:10:53,700 --> 01:10:56,790
Salon magazine, where it became
a blogger. Now, salon magazine

1174
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:59,610
is very interesting. It is a
publicly listed company. So

1175
01:10:59,610 --> 01:11:02,520
there's all kinds of information
available about them. current

1176
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,970
stock price of Salon magazine,
the salon media publishing

1177
01:11:05,970 --> 01:11:12,060
Empire is 11 cents a share job,
ya know, they lose a million

1178
01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:17,070
dollars a year have never been
profitable ever. And I'm like,

1179
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:20,130
well, that's kind of
interesting. Who is funding this

1180
01:11:20,130 --> 01:11:21,930
outfit? Considering you

1181
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,210
by the way, that's kind of
interesting when you consider

1182
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,510
all these other little startups
that have come and gone Tech

1183
01:11:27,510 --> 01:11:29,850
Crunch and all these other guys
to get bought for millions of

1184
01:11:29,850 --> 01:11:32,850
dollars and get incorporated
into AOL and other things. Salon

1185
01:11:32,850 --> 01:11:37,830
has always been, never been up
for grabs. I find that actually

1186
01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:38,790
peculiar, but go on.

1187
01:11:38,940 --> 01:11:45,000
They coming from a a corporate a
whole, she'll background, I also

1188
01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:48,240
particularly when it comes to
funding companies. I also was

1189
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,740
like, Well, how does something
continue to exist? They've got

1190
01:11:52,740 --> 01:11:56,220
to have some sugar daddy,
someone who is paying for this.

1191
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:58,770
And if they're paying for it,
then there's a reason for that

1192
01:11:58,770 --> 01:12:01,260
as well. So there must be some,
there's gotta be something

1193
01:12:01,260 --> 01:12:04,800
behind this. So it has been
unprofitable throughout its

1194
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:10,020
entire history, all this public
knowledge. But since 2007, two

1195
01:12:10,500 --> 01:12:14,070
board members, including the
chairman of the board, have been

1196
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:17,460
funding the company with
approximately three to $4

1197
01:12:17,460 --> 01:12:22,500
million a year. These two
gentlemen are John Warnock, and

1198
01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:27,480
William Hambrecht. Would you Are
you familiar with these names?

1199
01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:31,830
John? I know these guys. Yes,
William Hambrecht is of course,

1200
01:12:32,130 --> 01:12:36,600
one of the founders of the one
of the largest Silicon Valley

1201
01:12:36,660 --> 01:12:41,640
venture capital companies. And
John Warnock is the CEO, I

1202
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:47,910
believe, of Adobe, Chairman,
Chairman, Chairman of Adobe. And

1203
01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:50,850
all this information is in the
show notes. And Bill Hambrick

1204
01:12:50,850 --> 01:12:54,090
daughter I might point out is
the president of Salon magazine,

1205
01:12:54,090 --> 01:12:57,930
so you know, that's a good hire
right there. So if you think

1206
01:12:57,930 --> 01:13:01,860
about for a second, all of the
companies that were mentioned in

1207
01:13:01,860 --> 01:13:05,790
the prism document, all the
companies that could compromise

1208
01:13:05,820 --> 01:13:10,350
data that's centrally located,
what is the one company that

1209
01:13:10,350 --> 01:13:14,940
really is inside the CIA and the
NSA and the FBI that has its

1210
01:13:14,940 --> 01:13:20,430
products used every single day?
That is Adobe. And that is

1211
01:13:20,430 --> 01:13:25,410
promote primarily Adobe with
their reader acrobat. And when

1212
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,520
they have this thing called F
secure, which is to redact that

1213
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:35,430
PDF files, PDF files, there's so
that is such a black box, the

1214
01:13:35,430 --> 01:13:39,810
PDF by itself, but let's Of
course, look at now, what we all

1215
01:13:39,810 --> 01:13:44,100
think of outside of the Creative
Suite of Adobe always think

1216
01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:49,890
about flash. Let's go back to
the dead man talking to me. Dead

1217
01:13:49,890 --> 01:13:55,050
man being Steve Jobs, who
refused to put flash into iOS,

1218
01:13:55,080 --> 01:14:00,960
and he wrote a letter in 2000.
It was not long before it was a

1219
01:14:00,990 --> 01:14:05,820
2010, I think, or 11. He wrote a
letter called his thoughts on

1220
01:14:05,820 --> 01:14:10,080
flash. And he outlined a number
of reasons why he didn't want

1221
01:14:10,110 --> 01:14:15,780
Adobe in iOS. Third, there's
reliability, security and

1222
01:14:15,780 --> 01:14:19,110
performance. Symantec recently
highlighted flash for having one

1223
01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:23,280
of the worst security records in
2009. We also know firsthand

1224
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,580
that Flash is the number one
reason Mac's crash. We've been

1225
01:14:26,580 --> 01:14:29,430
working with Adobe to fix these
problems but have persisted for

1226
01:14:29,430 --> 01:14:32,760
several years. And we don't want
to reduce the reliability and

1227
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:38,790
security of our iPhones, iPods
and iPads by adding flash. And

1228
01:14:38,790 --> 01:14:45,060
if you read now, headline from
the register from June 9, that

1229
01:14:45,060 --> 01:14:48,150
would be today may was
yesterday. It was the eighth

1230
01:14:48,180 --> 01:14:52,230
this came out. Steve Jobs death
clears way for Adobe CTO

1231
01:14:52,230 --> 01:14:56,280
defection the CTO of Adobe has
just left to join apple and

1232
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,730
there is some question whether
maybe flash will come to the

1233
01:14:59,730 --> 01:15:04,620
iPhone On which I'll get to in
just a moment. Now, we know that

1234
01:15:04,620 --> 01:15:09,300
Flash has been doing it has been
a security risk. There's been

1235
01:15:09,300 --> 01:15:13,860
exploits it there's, it's been
accused of phoning home. It's

1236
01:15:13,860 --> 01:15:18,060
also on every single computing
device pretty much except for

1237
01:15:18,060 --> 01:15:23,670
the iOS platform. It True. Most
guys who are who are security

1238
01:15:23,670 --> 01:15:28,200
conscious that I know, sis
admins won't run it. They refuse

1239
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,320
like, oh, I can't watch that
video, which is why Steve Jobs I

1240
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:35,010
believe said no flash, that
thing's a mess. But maybe he

1241
01:15:35,010 --> 01:15:38,100
knew a little bit more. Maybe he
knew that. That really what

1242
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:43,710
Flash is, is it really is a true
spying mechanism. It can access

1243
01:15:43,710 --> 01:15:46,500
your camera, your microphone, it
can do all kinds of things.

1244
01:15:46,500 --> 01:15:50,670
Flash cookies, are really very
persistent, very hard to get rid

1245
01:15:50,670 --> 01:15:54,360
of. And who uses these things,
the advertising world. So I'm

1246
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:59,250
thinking to myself, if Adobe
truly were evil, and Adobe wants

1247
01:15:59,250 --> 01:16:02,820
to get this document out and
make all their competitors look

1248
01:16:03,210 --> 01:16:06,450
like horrible people. So they
can go on their merry way and

1249
01:16:06,450 --> 01:16:10,290
really aggregate the data of the
people not go in and sift it but

1250
01:16:10,290 --> 01:16:13,860
but really get the data directly
right off your computer was

1251
01:16:13,860 --> 01:16:16,500
going to be keystrokes for all I
know it could be anything Flash

1252
01:16:16,500 --> 01:16:20,040
is very, very sophisticated. But
it's a black box. We are not. We

1253
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:24,000
can't look inside of all of it.
Of course you can't have flash

1254
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,820
just dialing home people would
catch on to that. But what is

1255
01:16:26,820 --> 01:16:30,180
the one thing in this entire
conversation that everyone just

1256
01:16:30,180 --> 01:16:33,660
dismisses offhand? Whoo,
advertising that works track?

1257
01:16:33,660 --> 01:16:38,550
Yeah, yeah. Well, I guess it's a
good trade off. Why wouldn't

1258
01:16:39,810 --> 01:16:45,150
Adobe acquire an advertising
network? Well, as it turns out,

1259
01:16:45,630 --> 01:16:50,040
Adobe acquired something better,
which is a company which was

1260
01:16:50,070 --> 01:16:58,500
funded by our friend Warnock's
buddy, William Omniture. I'm not

1261
01:16:58,500 --> 01:17:03,690
sure which they bought for $3
billion. I'm the chair is the

1262
01:17:04,170 --> 01:17:10,110
statistics system of the
advertising industry. And

1263
01:17:10,110 --> 01:17:13,590
Omniture is a company that was
started by a guy called Josh

1264
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:19,260
James, in Utah as a part of the
Church of Latter Day Saints, ie

1265
01:17:19,290 --> 01:17:23,760
the Mormons who have the largest
database of human beings on the

1266
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:29,880
universe. But in the universe,
what I'm seeing is I'm seeing

1267
01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:34,440
Adobe is the true bad actor, and
how many times they upgrade

1268
01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:37,680
their flash, and it's still
sucking and it's crashing, and

1269
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,400
they have Omniture. Embedded in
that they're not hiding

1270
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:45,390
anything. They're tracking you.
Oh, and most people go oh, well,

1271
01:17:45,390 --> 01:17:48,840
you know, it's just advertising,
obviously, you know, whatever.

1272
01:17:49,020 --> 01:17:51,660
We don't really know what the
data is, is being sent back. But

1273
01:17:51,660 --> 01:17:53,880
it's there. It's open, it's free
and clear on what you're

1274
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,390
tracking. And people say it's
just advertising, it's not the

1275
01:17:57,390 --> 01:18:01,110
government. Now, I think this is
by far worse. And this now makes

1276
01:18:01,110 --> 01:18:04,920
sense to me that Steve Jobs knew
that these guys were up to no

1277
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,580
good and he didn't want any part
of it. Now, of course, none of

1278
01:18:08,580 --> 01:18:12,270
this would make sense unless you
could also really put this on

1279
01:18:12,300 --> 01:18:15,720
all iOS devices. And here's
where I think Apple is now on

1280
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,030
board with the program, we've
got Tim Cook, who probably

1281
01:18:18,060 --> 01:18:21,240
doesn't have the same scruples
as Steve Jobs. And you need to

1282
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:25,560
know that Adobe acquired a video
ad platform called audit tude.

1283
01:18:26,010 --> 01:18:30,570
They're just recently $120
million acquisition. And they

1284
01:18:30,570 --> 01:18:36,960
immediately turn this around.
And you can't buy ads with them.

1285
01:18:37,170 --> 01:18:39,690
Not as far as I can tell from
their website. But they've

1286
01:18:39,690 --> 01:18:44,220
turned this into Adobe
primetime. It's called Project

1287
01:18:44,220 --> 01:18:48,150
primetime, it's a video
platform, and it will now come

1288
01:18:48,150 --> 01:18:52,530
to iOS, it will work on
everything. This is what the CTO

1289
01:18:52,530 --> 01:18:56,940
guy is coming to do. And it
essentially has flash built into

1290
01:18:56,940 --> 01:19:01,200
it. And they they were at NAB
making deals with every single

1291
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,920
broadcaster. And they will
become the streaming video

1292
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,470
provider of choice because
they're going to give it all

1293
01:19:07,470 --> 01:19:13,140
away. And now they've
successfully put in the true

1294
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:17,700
true spying mechanism into every
single computing device on the

1295
01:19:17,700 --> 01:19:23,070
planet, sucking that data out
right in plain sight. Going back

1296
01:19:23,070 --> 01:19:26,640
into the databases, and they
have huge data centers through

1297
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:31,020
Omniture. And that's, that's the
company that you need to be

1298
01:19:31,020 --> 01:19:34,650
afraid of. And that's the
company that the CIA, maybe the

1299
01:19:34,650 --> 01:19:37,710
NSA, but I think these guys,
they'll sell it to anybody. We

1300
01:19:37,710 --> 01:19:40,920
know the Mormons, they sell
their database to ancestry.com

1301
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,280
It's free. No, it's just selling
it. So there's nothing sneaky.

1302
01:19:44,460 --> 01:19:49,590
And that's why Google and Yahoo
and Microsoft are like neither

1303
01:19:49,590 --> 01:19:52,560
will the what what they were
taken off guard because they

1304
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:56,460
have no idea what's happening.
But these guys, these guys

1305
01:19:56,550 --> 01:20:00,780
directly tied into Glenn
Greenwald directly They are the

1306
01:20:00,780 --> 01:20:02,010
ones that are behind this.

1307
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:09,000
Well, a couple of things. It's I
like the way you pieces

1308
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,510
together, you'll be getting a
call from Glenn Beck. Because

1309
01:20:12,510 --> 01:20:17,670
you put you through a lot of
stuff into one thesis that looks

1310
01:20:17,670 --> 01:20:22,920
like it makes sense except a
couple of little items. One, the

1311
01:20:23,460 --> 01:20:26,460
these companies that you say
were caught off guard, it was

1312
01:20:26,460 --> 01:20:30,810
curious that they all had pretty
much the exact same wordage to

1313
01:20:30,810 --> 01:20:34,500
their denials. And I don't think
they all call each other say

1314
01:20:34,500 --> 01:20:36,540
what are you going to say? What
are you going to say it doesn't

1315
01:20:36,540 --> 01:20:39,960
detract from what's happened say
that but it says nothing good

1316
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,110
was caught off as much guard as
you as you might imagine, but

1317
01:20:43,110 --> 01:20:45,210
to call me Glenn Beck is huge
insult.

1318
01:20:46,110 --> 01:20:48,990
I didn't call you get Glenn Beck
I said he'd be calling.

1319
01:20:49,019 --> 01:20:52,529
Oh, well, yeah, I guess you were
saying that I didn't like

1320
01:20:52,529 --> 01:20:54,959
getting Glenn Beck or something
which is insulting to

1321
01:20:55,290 --> 01:21:00,450
me. It's not meant to be okay. I
play the weasel words for data

1322
01:21:00,450 --> 01:21:03,420
capture. And I think there's a
couple of little things in there

1323
01:21:03,420 --> 01:21:05,670
that I would this one would
bounce off.

1324
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:11,070
The US National Security Agency
and the FBI are tapping directly

1325
01:21:11,070 --> 01:21:14,580
into the central servers of nine
leading us internet companies.

1326
01:21:14,910 --> 01:21:18,510
That's according to a report in
The Washington Post. It comes in

1327
01:21:18,510 --> 01:21:21,510
the back of Britain's Guardian
newspaper, claiming Washington

1328
01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:24,300
is collecting telephone records
of millions of Americans.

1329
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:28,200
Google, Apple, Yahoo, and
Facebook having statements

1330
01:21:28,230 --> 01:21:31,620
denied the government had direct
access to their central servers.

1331
01:21:31,950 --> 01:21:34,800
Microsoft said it does not
voluntarily take part in any

1332
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,120
government data collection.

1333
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:41,160
I like to say two things. One,
be reminded the Guardian was in

1334
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:46,290
direct cahoots with WikiLeaks,
but not like they took WikiLeaks

1335
01:21:46,290 --> 01:21:49,770
and published it in the
newspaper. No, we now know. And

1336
01:21:49,770 --> 01:21:52,800
it's been published everywhere,
that the Guardian would then

1337
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,900
call up the State Department
say, Hey, we're gonna publish

1338
01:21:54,900 --> 01:21:56,940
this that okay, well, no. Could
you take that out? Could you

1339
01:21:56,940 --> 01:21:59,340
take that out? Okay. Yeah,
right. So the New York Times,

1340
01:21:59,580 --> 01:22:03,570
and but if you truly if you want
to really, instead of having to

1341
01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:06,480
go yes, of course, of course,
this is taking place with these

1342
01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:10,380
companies. But if you really
want to have the information of

1343
01:22:10,380 --> 01:22:12,180
everybody, it's up. No, I'm not

1344
01:22:12,180 --> 01:22:15,000
gonna argue this. I what I
wanted to point out is

1345
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,090
Microsoft's comment, which was
now has been lost due to the

1346
01:22:18,090 --> 01:22:21,330
history but where they said they
don't voluntarily do anything,

1347
01:22:21,330 --> 01:22:23,700
which means that I think that
there's some other program in

1348
01:22:23,700 --> 01:22:27,030
place, which is forcing them to
do stuff, since they use the

1349
01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:31,620
word volunteer. Neat, meaning
they don't wrap up right and

1350
01:22:31,650 --> 01:22:32,610
correct it in

1351
01:22:33,270 --> 01:22:36,780
this, but this is, this is the
point that you made earlier.

1352
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,260
This is not news. We know that
they're doing this, we know that

1353
01:22:40,260 --> 01:22:43,500
this has been going on. And we
know that the FBI isn't in

1354
01:22:43,500 --> 01:22:46,500
Facebook, we know that the NSA
is in Google. But this is all

1355
01:22:46,500 --> 01:22:49,770
peanuts. That's my point. It's
peanuts, and it's distracting

1356
01:22:49,770 --> 01:22:52,500
from what's really going on
right in front of our noses.

1357
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,830
I wish they would get rid of
flash flashing Villanelle was

1358
01:22:55,830 --> 01:22:59,700
doing the x three Show Joe and
going onto a rant about how

1359
01:22:59,700 --> 01:23:04,140
flash and talking about the
cookies you can't get rid of. It

1360
01:23:04,140 --> 01:23:06,240
does all kinds of stuff you
can't get rid of. There's

1361
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:10,920
nothing you can do. When when
you get a whatever it is that

1362
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,670
they that you might get planted
through flash, it's impossible

1363
01:23:14,670 --> 01:23:15,810
to get off your machine.

1364
01:23:15,870 --> 01:23:19,110
And Steve Jobs knew this. He
knew they were up to no good. He

1365
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:23,070
was at UPenn very famous for
hating a lot of these kinds of

1366
01:23:23,070 --> 01:23:26,910
people really getting into big
feuds with guys exactly like

1367
01:23:26,910 --> 01:23:31,890
this. Exactly like this. And I
think for these reasons and how

1368
01:23:31,890 --> 01:23:35,430
many truly elite superstar super
rich people do we know that

1369
01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:41,730
still die of cancer today? Not a
lot. If you look at the cancer

1370
01:23:41,730 --> 01:23:46,620
rate amongst the citizens, how
many would besides Steve Jobs,

1371
01:23:46,650 --> 01:23:50,610
who else have super elite status
way up there in the echelons has

1372
01:23:50,610 --> 01:23:55,320
died of cancer in recent memory?
Yeah, this is Hugo Chavez,

1373
01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:58,080
another enemy of the state. Give
me another one.

1374
01:23:59,310 --> 01:24:01,200
Exactly. We'd all be enemies of
the state.

1375
01:24:01,650 --> 01:24:04,170
Yes. Well, Steve Jobs was an
enemy of the state.

1376
01:24:06,090 --> 01:24:09,810
So but I think I think you've
got an interesting thesis and I

1377
01:24:09,810 --> 01:24:14,610
like it. But it doesn't detract
from way way too bad prediction.

1378
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:20,100
Way to backpedal, dude. It's
doesn't detract from my

1379
01:24:20,130 --> 01:24:24,180
prediction some weeks back, that
once they got the scandals going

1380
01:24:24,180 --> 01:24:28,410
there, we're gonna pile on to
get rid of Obama. And I think

1381
01:24:28,410 --> 01:24:31,140
that this, you can't ignore that
this is part of that.

1382
01:24:31,170 --> 01:24:35,520
Well, we also in this it's
funny, did we not play that? Do

1383
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:40,080
we not play where the President
said that he would probably he

1384
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,720
might be gone by the next three
and a half years. Do we play

1385
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:44,730
that piece? In Play?

1386
01:24:44,730 --> 01:24:45,840
Do you have it? Yes.

1387
01:24:46,140 --> 01:24:48,000
I was at the end of this clip. I
think I

1388
01:24:48,510 --> 01:24:51,090
can't trust not only the
executive branch at the end of

1389
01:24:51,090 --> 01:24:56,400
this clip, don't trust Congress
and don't trust federal judge.

1390
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,340
It was very weird. I'm actually
amazed I didn't play it earlier.

1391
01:24:59,730 --> 01:25:02,970
Do process and rule of law, then
we're gonna have some problems

1392
01:25:02,970 --> 01:25:08,310
here. But my observation is, is
that the people who are involved

1393
01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:10,770
in America's national security,

1394
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,880
I see if I can roll the
Constitution forward.

1395
01:25:15,269 --> 01:25:17,909
And by the way, we're going
after that I will be a private

1396
01:25:17,909 --> 01:25:22,739
citizen. Here we go. And I
suspect I went too far. The

1397
01:25:22,739 --> 01:25:26,309
privacy issues, I will leave
this office at some point

1398
01:25:26,339 --> 01:25:28,319
sometime in the next three and a
half years.

1399
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:33,870
Maybe earlier. I don't know.
Sometime, maybe next year, maybe

1400
01:25:33,870 --> 01:25:34,500
next month?

1401
01:25:35,130 --> 01:25:42,240
Well, maybe. There was two
interesting clips that are also

1402
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:45,450
floating around that would seem
to have been regurgitated into

1403
01:25:45,450 --> 01:25:51,930
the into the net to give a to
pile on Obama. And one of them,

1404
01:25:52,050 --> 01:25:54,930
I got the two here, then they're
floating around. I didn't have

1405
01:25:54,930 --> 01:25:57,720
to do any digging at him to do
go to C span. They're just out

1406
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:03,390
there, which is the one where
Laffer lies to Congress and play

1407
01:26:03,390 --> 01:26:03,780
that.

1408
01:26:04,019 --> 01:26:09,089
Okay. So what I want to just see
is if you could give me this is

1409
01:26:09,569 --> 01:26:11,069
this is Laffer clapper

1410
01:26:12,660 --> 01:26:16,830
who, I think it's Clapper, okay.
No, no, it's Laffer the new guy.

1411
01:26:17,220 --> 01:26:19,800
Those laughs I was new to
yesterday. Oh, wait, wait, wait.

1412
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:23,580
That's why this is this is
months ago. And this is white in

1413
01:26:23,580 --> 01:26:24,810
one of those committee meetings.

1414
01:26:26,670 --> 01:26:30,300
Play now. Yeah. So what I want
to just see is if you could give

1415
01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:34,590
me a yes or no answer to the
question. Does the NSA collect

1416
01:26:34,620 --> 01:26:39,720
any type of data at all on
millions or hundreds of millions

1417
01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:46,440
of Americans? No, sir. It does
not. Not

1418
01:26:46,440 --> 01:26:52,050
wittingly. There are cases where
they could inadvertently perhaps

1419
01:26:52,770 --> 01:26:53,460
collect

1420
01:26:53,550 --> 01:26:58,800
but not not wittingly. It's like
she fell onto my penis. I can't

1421
01:26:58,800 --> 01:26:59,970
it's just happened.

1422
01:27:00,990 --> 01:27:07,140
So he's done. Meanwhile, holder
Who's No, no,

1423
01:27:07,470 --> 01:27:11,190
yeah, that's that was that was
my favorite that was older comes

1424
01:27:11,190 --> 01:27:13,800
out and says the following,
which is actually frightening

1425
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,350
answer if you think about it,
but it just asked, Could you

1426
01:27:16,350 --> 01:27:21,120
assure to us that no phones
inside the Capitol were

1427
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,970
monitored of members of
Congress, that would give a

1428
01:27:23,970 --> 01:27:27,150
future executive branch if they
started pulling this kind of

1429
01:27:27,150 --> 01:27:29,760
thing off, would give them
unique leverage of the

1430
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:30,510
legislature.

1431
01:27:31,470 --> 01:27:34,080
With all due respect, Senator, I
don't think this is an

1432
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,830
appropriate setting for me to
discuss that issue. I'd be more

1433
01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:42,450
than glad to come back in a in
an appropriate setting to

1434
01:27:42,450 --> 01:27:45,510
discuss the issues that you have
raised.

1435
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:49,800
You didn't get them. You didn't
get the last part where the the

1436
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,890
senator says that? No, the
appropriate answer would be no.

1437
01:27:53,429 --> 01:27:55,949
I didn't get that because it
wasn't on the clip. Oh, really?

1438
01:27:55,979 --> 01:27:58,889
Who's doing who's doing your
clips? No, no, this is the clip

1439
01:27:58,889 --> 01:28:01,199
that was floating around the
net. Here that Oh, hold on

1440
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,510
here. Let me play you the full
improper clip.

1441
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,810
When government bureaucrats are
sloppy. They're usually really

1442
01:28:06,810 --> 01:28:12,570
sloppy. When it just asked,
Could you assure to us that no

1443
01:28:12,570 --> 01:28:15,960
phones inside the Capitol were
monitored of members of Congress

1444
01:28:16,440 --> 01:28:18,960
that would give a future
executive branch if they started

1445
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:22,620
pulling this kind of thing off,
would give them unique leverage

1446
01:28:22,620 --> 01:28:23,610
of the legislature.

1447
01:28:24,599 --> 01:28:27,209
With all due respect, Senator, I
don't think this is an

1448
01:28:27,209 --> 01:28:30,959
appropriate setting for me to
discuss that issue. I'd be more

1449
01:28:30,959 --> 01:28:35,549
than glad to come back in a in
an appropriate setting to

1450
01:28:35,549 --> 01:28:39,959
discuss the issues that you have
raised in this open forum. I

1451
01:28:39,959 --> 01:28:41,039
don't I don't have what

1452
01:28:41,340 --> 01:28:45,120
I would interrupt you and say
the correct answer would be say,

1453
01:28:45,150 --> 01:28:48,690
No, we stayed within our lane,
and I'm assuring you we did not

1454
01:28:48,750 --> 01:28:50,610
spy on members of Congress.

1455
01:28:52,290 --> 01:28:56,280
That would be the correct
answer. Right. No, we didn't spy

1456
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:57,570
on you. But of course,

1457
01:28:58,050 --> 01:29:01,290
he did. Yeah, obviously. That's
what that's what the answer

1458
01:29:01,290 --> 01:29:02,760
says. Yeah, he obviously did.

1459
01:29:03,030 --> 01:29:05,400
It's great. It's great. I love
it.

1460
01:29:07,110 --> 01:29:10,620
So yeah, well, things are going
downhill as we speak.

1461
01:29:11,009 --> 01:29:15,599
The McLaughlin group had a guy
on from the Economist. And

1462
01:29:15,599 --> 01:29:17,849
someone told me who was that
that said that to me the other

1463
01:29:17,849 --> 01:29:21,899
day said, Well, this story is so
big. It's even in the economists

1464
01:29:21,929 --> 01:29:26,009
like yeah, natural for abuse.
But there is no reality yet.

1465
01:29:26,009 --> 01:29:29,459
It's got to be when of course
it's a British guy from the

1466
01:29:29,459 --> 01:29:33,059
economist, who's who's on the
McLaughlin group. He has a

1467
01:29:33,059 --> 01:29:36,329
different different reality of
than we do here in America watch

1468
01:29:36,329 --> 01:29:38,939
very closely the potential is
great. It could I agree with

1469
01:29:38,939 --> 01:29:39,389
Eleanor

1470
01:29:39,420 --> 01:29:42,420
reality. It's not what's the
economist saying about this?

1471
01:29:42,810 --> 01:29:43,140
Look, I

1472
01:29:43,140 --> 01:29:45,630
think that you're right. You
know, you have the choice. You

1473
01:29:45,630 --> 01:29:48,360
say, is it shocking? Or is it an
abuse of privacy? Well, you know

1474
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,090
what, it? It is an abuse of
privacy, but I don't think it

1475
01:29:51,090 --> 01:29:53,850
shocks anyone. I mean, if you
think about it, if if someone

1476
01:29:53,850 --> 01:29:56,670
says to you, did you know that
the American government pays

1477
01:29:56,670 --> 01:29:59,490
attention when someone in New
York makes a phone call to

1478
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,580
InnoEnergy Hardy in Pakistan,
and if that flashes up, they

1479
01:30:02,580 --> 01:30:06,870
then track it. I kind of assumed
that that's what the NSA is. I

1480
01:30:06,870 --> 01:30:11,250
mean now information. They may
not be talking about their

1481
01:30:11,250 --> 01:30:13,590
business, they may be talking
about their personal life. The

1482
01:30:13,590 --> 01:30:18,240
idea the idea that the NSA
tracks these these foreign phone

1483
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,210
calls and emails is what the NSA
is for. I don't think the

1484
01:30:21,210 --> 01:30:24,810
American public realizes

1485
01:30:24,810 --> 01:30:27,990
this is bullcrap me this is a
pivot. Yes, of course. It has

1486
01:30:27,990 --> 01:30:30,090
nothing to do. That's not what
we're talking about. We're

1487
01:30:30,090 --> 01:30:35,100
talking about tracking and
saving the Google emails and

1488
01:30:35,130 --> 01:30:37,560
dent taking all the metadata
from all the phones from

1489
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:42,210
Verizon. Yes, not about I mean,
yeah, that old saw about well,

1490
01:30:42,210 --> 01:30:45,090
you know, when a phone call
comes in, and it stays all over.

1491
01:30:45,690 --> 01:30:49,110
I think he actually said a light
switch on the switchboard goes

1492
01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:53,910
on. We've got a Pakistani

1493
01:30:54,510 --> 01:30:57,210
jackpot on a slot machine in
Vegas away, he makes

1494
01:30:57,750 --> 01:31:00,240
a jihadi calling. Oh, we better
check this one out. That's what

1495
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:07,590
we're for here at the NSA. So we
are being duped in a number of

1496
01:31:07,590 --> 01:31:13,530
things. I believe Glenn
Greenwald is a shill. I believe

1497
01:31:13,530 --> 01:31:18,630
that he is compromised by the
CIA, that he has published these

1498
01:31:18,630 --> 01:31:23,700
documents which may not be may
or may not be authentic. I

1499
01:31:23,700 --> 01:31:29,580
believe that He has published
them under the auspices of Adobe

1500
01:31:29,670 --> 01:31:34,650
and Omniture. To make it maybe
he might not even know that he's

1501
01:31:34,650 --> 01:31:36,960
doing it. He may think that he
has the scoop of the century.

1502
01:31:37,650 --> 01:31:42,480
But I think the connections are
close enough that this is a made

1503
01:31:42,510 --> 01:31:46,890
to obfuscate the word you used
earlier, the true spying

1504
01:31:46,890 --> 01:31:51,420
mechanism that is taking place.
And when Adobe primetime comes

1505
01:31:51,420 --> 01:31:54,960
out, I encourage you not to
install it. It'll be hard

1506
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:58,470
because they're gonna have all
the primetime all your shows all

1507
01:31:58,470 --> 01:32:02,310
your favorite celebrate ease. Oh
god install the software I'm on

1508
01:32:02,310 --> 01:32:07,170
because it's got it's got all
the celebrities sports Oh, this

1509
01:32:07,170 --> 01:32:10,200
was gonna be gonna have
everything. And it's gonna be

1510
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:13,650
almost free. Another free
trinket we hold in front of you.

1511
01:32:13,830 --> 01:32:17,730
It's shiny and glistening. Don't
worry, just install it it'll be

1512
01:32:17,730 --> 01:32:18,240
perfect

1513
01:32:21,450 --> 01:32:24,630
Well, the problem with the
thesis is that if this was ever

1514
01:32:24,900 --> 01:32:27,690
discovered, is really risky.

1515
01:32:27,810 --> 01:32:31,230
I don't understand what what you
mean by discovered it is

1516
01:32:31,230 --> 01:32:31,860
happening.

1517
01:32:32,070 --> 01:32:34,410
Now that you say it's happening
but do you don't there's no

1518
01:32:34,410 --> 01:32:37,560
evidence that that these guys
are phoning home or spying on

1519
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,420
us? It's a flash mechanist hold
on

1520
01:32:39,450 --> 01:32:42,960
you. You seem to misunderstand
what I'm saying. This isn't you

1521
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:46,440
didn't get it on the site. Got
it. Go look in your flash

1522
01:32:46,440 --> 01:32:49,800
cookies right now. And you'll
see there an ominous your flash

1523
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:54,300
cookie. Yeah. Yeah, that is that
is phoning home. It is phoning

1524
01:32:54,300 --> 01:33:00,330
home consistently. It's not the
actual phoning home mechanism.

1525
01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:03,930
But you go to a site and on the
church is on every single site,

1526
01:33:03,930 --> 01:33:06,300
John? So they are tracking you
they are but they're not

1527
01:33:06,300 --> 01:33:08,910
tracking you for advertising
purposes. They're tracking.

1528
01:33:08,910 --> 01:33:09,210
That's

1529
01:33:09,210 --> 01:33:12,660
the that's the that's the you've
got to prove that.

1530
01:33:12,990 --> 01:33:15,330
What do you mean, I've got to
prove it. You can you as an

1531
01:33:15,330 --> 01:33:18,660
advertiser, the biggest
advertising agencies in the

1532
01:33:18,660 --> 01:33:25,140
universe, pay Omniture money to
get behavioral data on what

1533
01:33:25,140 --> 01:33:26,700
people are surfing to.

1534
01:33:28,380 --> 01:33:33,720
to I'm not going to say that
you're wrong, I just really

1535
01:33:33,870 --> 01:33:38,550
wonder because for example, we
criticize constantly, the crappy

1536
01:33:38,550 --> 01:33:41,940
job, they do have targeting
advertising. And this is all

1537
01:33:41,940 --> 01:33:44,820
done through Omniture. So you're
saying that even though they

1538
01:33:44,820 --> 01:33:47,940
can't do their own, what they're
supposed to be doing correctly,

1539
01:33:48,030 --> 01:33:50,880
they're somehow profiling
everybody in the country and

1540
01:33:50,940 --> 01:33:55,440
sending off this data to the NSA
or the CIA or one of these three

1541
01:33:55,440 --> 01:33:59,760
letter words, I would say that
they're doing a good job of that

1542
01:33:59,790 --> 01:34:03,030
does two different things.
You're talking about what ads

1543
01:34:03,030 --> 01:34:05,610
people are seeing that's
different than knowing every

1544
01:34:05,610 --> 01:34:08,880
single website you serve to
that's different than when and

1545
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,670
when you install Gmail there's
flashing that there's all this

1546
01:34:11,670 --> 01:34:15,510
flash everywhere John, this
flash everywhere Omni you

1547
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,690
installed Ghostery and see that
Omniture is not on every single

1548
01:34:18,690 --> 01:34:23,610
page. It's one thing to get the
data and then try and recommend

1549
01:34:23,610 --> 01:34:26,340
an ad it's another thing to get
the data and know what the hell

1550
01:34:26,340 --> 01:34:29,340
someone's doing. It's two
different things.

1551
01:34:31,620 --> 01:34:36,960
Diet agree Okay, and what and
what I'm still I'm now I have to

1552
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,110
uninstall a bunch of stuff and
use a different I think we

1553
01:34:40,110 --> 01:34:42,150
should do the no agenda browser.
Oh, and

1554
01:34:42,180 --> 01:34:48,570
by the way, this Adobe primetime
will also be on Xbox. It's gonna

1555
01:34:48,570 --> 01:34:52,410
it's gonna be on everything is
going to be the new de facto

1556
01:34:52,410 --> 01:34:56,790
standard. Truly, and this is
what the fight has always been

1557
01:34:56,790 --> 01:35:01,380
about between HTML five and N.
Flash and you get an open

1558
01:35:01,380 --> 01:35:06,000
standard that doesn't have the
Celebrate ease. And the people

1559
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:07,140
are stupid. They're stupid.

1560
01:35:07,620 --> 01:35:13,770
Here's, here's a little tidbit
when html5 was rolled out, I

1561
01:35:13,770 --> 01:35:16,770
won't say who this was, but a
very kind of a famous guy.

1562
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:19,410
Why can't you say because you'd
be compromised, you'll get shot.

1563
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,860
Now it's because it's just
cheap. Okay? All right. Got it.

1564
01:35:22,860 --> 01:35:31,200
And the guy says to me, oh,
Adobe's dead. Really dead,

1565
01:35:31,290 --> 01:35:36,390
because this is going to kill
flash. And I thought about that

1566
01:35:36,390 --> 01:35:38,820
for a while. And I still, you
know, it's a possibility that

1567
01:35:38,820 --> 01:35:41,970
this html5 could kill flash,
because right now we just put

1568
01:35:41,970 --> 01:35:47,160
video, colon or whatever the tag
is, for running videos, instead

1569
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:50,700
of doing it through flash, which
is always problematic is, you

1570
01:35:50,700 --> 01:35:54,150
know, they got to updating it
all is worse than real player.

1571
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:58,080
They're updating it constantly
for whatever reason, and it's

1572
01:35:58,110 --> 01:36:00,900
suspect. And it's got Yeah, and
you get

1573
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:06,750
all the time. There's always an
update. So always sucking and

1574
01:36:06,750 --> 01:36:10,560
why. And why is it crashing? Who
knows what it's doing in there.

1575
01:36:11,850 --> 01:36:13,350
It probably shouldn't be
banished.

1576
01:36:14,580 --> 01:36:18,090
Most definitely should be
banished. This is we need to

1577
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:22,920
start an anti Adobe primetime
campaign, because that's the

1578
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:26,370
final frontier they need to get
on the iOS devices. That's what

1579
01:36:26,370 --> 01:36:29,610
it's always been about the CTO
of Adobe leaves and goes to

1580
01:36:29,610 --> 01:36:33,000
Apple just before this happens.
All this takes place after Steve

1581
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:39,480
Jobs dies. No, no, no. If anyone
wanted to preserve any legacy of

1582
01:36:39,480 --> 01:36:44,010
Steve Jobs, and you should you
should when they do this when

1583
01:36:44,010 --> 01:36:47,910
they basically through a a
backhanded way install Flash

1584
01:36:47,910 --> 01:36:51,990
onto the iOS platform. You all
should take your phones and go

1585
01:36:51,990 --> 01:36:55,770
throw them at headquarters in
Cupertino, smash your phones and

1586
01:36:55,770 --> 01:37:00,510
say you are pissing on the
legacy of Steve Jobs. Because

1587
01:37:00,510 --> 01:37:03,270
that's what's that's what will
take place. And Tim Cook look at

1588
01:37:03,270 --> 01:37:07,950
the guy. Come on. He you know,
he bit. Okay, come on. NCIS.

1589
01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:15,300
Come on in. And as you can see
the guys at worse when when he

1590
01:37:15,300 --> 01:37:23,160
should be British. He's not. I
think I'm very, very concerned.

1591
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:27,270
And I just look at all these
things in the advertising angle.

1592
01:37:27,270 --> 01:37:31,410
I've never thought about that.
And, and it's not just Omniture

1593
01:37:31,410 --> 01:37:36,330
is not an ad network. It is a
tracking mechanism. And that's

1594
01:37:36,330 --> 01:37:45,780
the thing that direct started by
the Mormons. Hello. If anyone

1595
01:37:45,780 --> 01:37:48,150
can connect the names to the
numbers is them.

1596
01:37:49,830 --> 01:37:54,480
All right, well, I went out
follow this. I'm sure you'll

1597
01:37:54,480 --> 01:37:57,600
have more to say about it. This
primetime thing. I'm not sure if

1598
01:37:57,600 --> 01:37:59,550
that's even going to catch on.
But we'll see.

1599
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:03,270
When they have the celebratory
content it will that's what I'm

1600
01:38:03,300 --> 01:38:07,560
surprised you didn't see you
didn't see this at the I didn't

1601
01:38:07,590 --> 01:38:09,990
at the NAB because this was may

1602
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:12,690
have been there, but I didn't
see it. And I went to the Adobe

1603
01:38:12,690 --> 01:38:16,350
conference. I didn't see it.
Well, I didn't know very little

1604
01:38:16,350 --> 01:38:18,840
about Project primetime. I
hadn't

1605
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,150
heard of it at all. I had no
idea was going on until I

1606
01:38:21,150 --> 01:38:24,510
stumbled across it. And I see
the CTO of Adobe's left to go

1607
01:38:24,510 --> 01:38:28,890
work for Apple. i Okay. And then
I see comments. If you look at

1608
01:38:28,890 --> 01:38:31,500
it, and all this in the show
notes five to zero and he shows

1609
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:37,920
you see comments from I think
like your typical SIS admin

1610
01:38:37,980 --> 01:38:44,400
sysadmin Linux guy could be
like, Hey, this is just bringing

1611
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:49,530
flash in on the back end.
Everyone sees it. People that

1612
01:38:49,530 --> 01:38:55,170
care. Doesn't matter if it's
installed. It's installed. And

1613
01:38:55,170 --> 01:38:57,960
once it's installed, then any
page that has a little eaten

1614
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:01,950
those invisible flash things.
There you go. Okay,

1615
01:39:02,010 --> 01:39:06,120
I like this. I like the theory.
Well, thank apples hire of anti

1616
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:11,310
Adobe, anti apple. Adobe CTO
raises it so the guy was anti

1617
01:39:11,310 --> 01:39:16,140
apple. Adobe CTO Kevin Lynch
will soon be trading jerseys and

1618
01:39:16,140 --> 01:39:18,960
going over to Team Apple a move
that has some apple watchers

1619
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:23,070
perplexed. Adobe confirmed
Lynch's job change late Tuesday

1620
01:39:23,070 --> 01:39:26,430
following a regulatory filing
that revealed Lynch's plans.

1621
01:39:26,700 --> 01:39:29,670
Apple later confirmed the move
as well saying Lynch's blog

1622
01:39:29,700 --> 01:39:32,910
title at Apple would be VP of
technology. And then he

1623
01:39:32,910 --> 01:39:37,380
reporting to current hardware
lead Bob Mansfeld. Kevin Lynch,

1624
01:39:37,380 --> 01:39:40,800
Adobe CTO is leaving the company
to take a position at Apple.

1625
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:45,240
Well, here's the question that
comes to mind. Why it for

1626
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:49,290
the integration? Obviously, we
have iOS

1627
01:39:50,070 --> 01:39:54,630
know that you would do a that's
not a job change. That's that

1628
01:39:54,630 --> 01:39:56,610
would be that makes any sense
normally

1629
01:39:58,170 --> 01:39:58,560
no

1630
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:05,670
There was a lot of things that
it didn't make sense. When Adobe

1631
01:40:05,670 --> 01:40:08,070
bought if you read the articles
if you go back and read the

1632
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:11,610
articles why Adobe bought
Omniture people like why is

1633
01:40:11,610 --> 01:40:13,950
Adobe buying Omniture? This
makes no sense.

1634
01:40:14,070 --> 01:40:16,680
But yeah, actually I I've
noticed that but eventually

1635
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,410
originally hails from
Macromedia, which of course is

1636
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:23,310
version of Flash flash. But now
to really add to your thesis,

1637
01:40:23,310 --> 01:40:25,650
you should do a little
background on that macro media

1638
01:40:25,650 --> 01:40:28,830
and how that got started to
create flash in the first place.

1639
01:40:28,860 --> 01:40:32,430
Well, the funny thing is, Mark
Kanter started that.

1640
01:40:34,470 --> 01:40:39,690
Yes, he did. And I'm one of
them. I'm not, I'd have to say

1641
01:40:39,870 --> 01:40:40,260
he did

1642
01:40:40,260 --> 01:40:45,270
director though he did director
so I, I don't think he's

1643
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:49,770
spooked. I know Mark pretty
well. He's a he's not a spoke.

1644
01:40:49,770 --> 01:40:53,760
He's a stoner for sure. And
he's, he's a fun guy. But now

1645
01:40:54,030 --> 01:40:58,410
he's, he's not a part of a part
of that. But the, when you look

1646
01:40:58,410 --> 01:41:02,820
at Adobe, if you look at their,
they have an entire program for

1647
01:41:02,820 --> 01:41:05,820
PDFs by themselves, you
shouldn't use PDF, either

1648
01:41:05,820 --> 01:41:10,410
Acrobat or whatever. And use it
and I think I'm convinced this

1649
01:41:10,410 --> 01:41:10,830
is why

1650
01:41:10,830 --> 01:41:13,290
by the way, which is Apple
again, they had their own they

1651
01:41:13,290 --> 01:41:13,680
had their

1652
01:41:13,710 --> 01:41:16,950
Thank you they had the preview
because they didn't want the

1653
01:41:16,950 --> 01:41:20,280
calling home thing of Acrobat
Reader. If you look at the

1654
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:23,220
government, if you look, I spent
some time last night looking at

1655
01:41:23,220 --> 01:41:25,530
the Adobe website, and
particularly their government

1656
01:41:25,530 --> 01:41:30,180
stuff. They you can track a PDF
through an entire organization

1657
01:41:30,180 --> 01:41:33,390
as large as the government, you
can track exactly who has it,

1658
01:41:33,390 --> 01:41:36,750
where it's going. They have this
thing called Echo sign, which is

1659
01:41:36,750 --> 01:41:40,140
for legal documents, which
there's a couple of competing

1660
01:41:40,140 --> 01:41:44,550
products, but Adobe echo sign is
used for contracts in the

1661
01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:48,480
commercial world. And the minute
you sign that and click it, it's

1662
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:51,900
talking back, it's calling home,
it's definitely calling Adobe.

1663
01:41:52,650 --> 01:42:01,170
Bad This is a known fact. PDF by
itself is evil, do not open Do

1664
01:42:01,170 --> 01:42:03,780
not open it in Adobe Reader.

1665
01:42:04,860 --> 01:42:09,030
Macro media created Shockwave,
which was the forerunner and

1666
01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:14,010
cursor cursor. Yep, a director
of a director viewer plugin for

1667
01:42:14,010 --> 01:42:17,010
web browsers but later moved to
expand its market by this and do

1668
01:42:17,010 --> 01:42:21,180
this by branching out to web
native media tools in 19 97k. Or

1669
01:42:21,180 --> 01:42:26,100
Patel, founder of social
philanthropy fund, fuse global

1670
01:42:26,820 --> 01:42:33,000
look into that. And then it had
Stephen Elop now CEO of Nokia

1671
01:42:33,780 --> 01:42:36,810
created his first web strategy,
which later proved to be the

1672
01:42:36,810 --> 01:42:39,540
most valuable pivot point for
Macromedia and being acquired by

1673
01:42:39,540 --> 01:42:41,760
Adobe for multi billions of
dollars.

1674
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:47,880
Yeah, it's not like this is it?
They're not making the money off

1675
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:53,790
of sales of the director. Okay.
Adobe makes a lot of money.

1676
01:42:54,210 --> 01:42:58,710
They're not making it off the
sales of Photoshop.

1677
01:43:02,310 --> 01:43:05,400
Anyway, interesting, actually,
the history of Macromedia on the

1678
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:06,750
Wikipedia is worth reading.

1679
01:43:07,650 --> 01:43:10,170
Alright, shall we? Should we
leave this for the time being so

1680
01:43:10,170 --> 01:43:13,080
we can regroup a little and
maybe we'll come back to that on

1681
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:13,650
Thursday?

1682
01:43:14,460 --> 01:43:17,700
If there really anything else, I
do have some interesting clips.

1683
01:43:17,700 --> 01:43:24,540
I think right now. 6969. The
show must move by donation to no

1684
01:43:24,540 --> 01:43:27,570
agenda. Imagine all the people
who could do that. Oh, yeah,

1685
01:43:27,570 --> 01:43:28,290
that'd be fun.

1686
01:43:36,150 --> 01:43:40,410
And before we get into this
rosin off, I do want to thank

1687
01:43:40,440 --> 01:43:46,110
Greg Davies, who is the creator
of the 60s and 6969 Jingle.

1688
01:43:47,070 --> 01:43:50,700
Oh, great. Did he send you a
note saying hey,

1689
01:43:50,940 --> 01:43:54,600
it says hey, I don't have any
money but can you but I created

1690
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:55,320
your jingle

1691
01:43:58,950 --> 01:44:02,190
some donors for show 520 Let's
get to the earlier ones which is

1692
01:44:02,190 --> 01:44:07,740
Patrick Oberman Australia $111
He wants to thank us for the

1693
01:44:07,740 --> 01:44:12,180
stunning analysis. Dan good
Saul. UK

1694
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God God saw God God saw

1695
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dots all sorry, one Oh, not to
been a boner for a few months

1696
01:44:19,740 --> 01:44:22,740
but after three great shows back
to back and after countless

1697
01:44:22,740 --> 01:44:25,860
sightings of 33 I knew it was
time to donate to the best

1698
01:44:25,860 --> 01:44:28,650
podcast in the universe doing a
media degree in Cardiff it's

1699
01:44:28,650 --> 01:44:31,830
mind blowing how stupid people
are the propaganda the BBC is

1700
01:44:31,830 --> 01:44:35,850
shitting out I often get called
crazy or conspiracy this is like

1701
01:44:35,850 --> 01:44:40,020
a breath of fresh air when I
listen to the show. He needs to

1702
01:44:40,020 --> 01:44:43,470
give all the fellow Welsh no
agenda listener some karma they

1703
01:44:43,470 --> 01:44:43,830
need it.

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I agree they can. Karma.

1705
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Joe the dish slave Sergio the
dish Slave I believe that $100

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Brian Williams Streamwood
Illinois.

1707
01:44:55,500 --> 01:44:58,110
I did want to point out he said
that this is a modest

1708
01:44:58,110 --> 01:44:59,730
encroachment on his wallet

1709
01:45:00,630 --> 01:45:05,730
Yes, most encroachment, Brian
Williams Streamwood Illinois.

1710
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He's he was figuring out our
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their 20 month old human
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hitting them out a couple of
months ago and now offering

1716
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value for value isn't much
because we're very poor. But we

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hope to keep our hope our
donation buys us a 6969 plus two

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to the head 7169. I don't know
whether I should count this

1719
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because we our record is broken
today. And everyone is taking

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part in historical event.

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historical event

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7469 69 contributions we have to
thank the wheel. Before we do

1723
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that though Bert Barton's in the
Netherlands is in for 70 So here

1724
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we go. Ready?

1725
01:46:00,330 --> 01:46:02,730
Well, hold on a second. So
you're telling me that the whole

1726
01:46:02,730 --> 01:46:05,010
world would be upside down
tonight? This is going to be

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just one big Suazo not fastest.
It's phenomenal. And Miss

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Mickey's coming home tonight
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People who helped us out with
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not sure how you pronounce that.
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Hey rainstick Sherry has a
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dictionary right there.

1746
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We'll give her a birthday cola
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universal. Nice. Craig Kutner in

1748
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:39,960
Norwalk, Connecticut. Danny
Baker in Morristown, Tennessee

1749
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:46,230
David Smith and Ashford Kent,
United Kingdom. Dean Bertram

1750
01:47:46,230 --> 01:47:53,610
sardine Bertram desert Don being
in 1000 Oaks California. Eric

1751
01:47:53,610 --> 01:48:01,320
Olsen Parts Unknown Gary Howell
in Houston Texas. George lights

1752
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:01,620
in

1753
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:06,870
Lifson think think yeah, I eat
lead son I think oops. Thanks.

1754
01:48:06,870 --> 01:48:08,070
So yeah.

1755
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:14,160
Greg steer old good old Greg
stere. He says 6969 by and ran

1756
01:48:15,450 --> 01:48:20,280
Yeah, II own is it II own IO N
Iowan Do you think that is?

1757
01:48:21,690 --> 01:48:24,660
Probably Joan, but you know,
okay Ioan

1758
01:48:24,750 --> 01:48:28,530
Eon is probably really eon he on

1759
01:48:29,790 --> 01:48:37,560
Yeah, relate to your Brook Park,
Ohio. Jaco Personen in Finland.

1760
01:48:39,180 --> 01:48:44,070
Jacque vasti en in Valley Stream
New York, James blank and Culver

1761
01:48:44,070 --> 01:48:48,960
City. Teams Chesney in
Brownsville, Michigan, Yan do

1762
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:56,040
Broca in Sharpsburg, GA,
probably Jan Jessie Nelson in

1763
01:48:56,040 --> 01:49:02,430
San Antonio up the street from
you. Jim Reed Irvine, California

1764
01:49:06,180 --> 01:49:08,880
Jim I'm sorry Jim John Richard
in

1765
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:13,950
evolutional say in Vegas when
Don't Don't worry about it. And

1766
01:49:13,980 --> 01:49:15,420
Eric's gotta read the notes.

1767
01:49:16,620 --> 01:49:20,910
John Richard in New Orleans,
Louisiana John blit in Calgary,

1768
01:49:20,910 --> 01:49:25,140
Alberta, Jonathan Jackson and
Chattanooga, Tennessee. Joseph

1769
01:49:25,140 --> 01:49:28,590
gaz in Wilmington, Delaware.
Joseph Richards in Kalamazoo,

1770
01:49:28,590 --> 01:49:33,390
Michigan Joe Sir Joseph sir
wills in Palm Bay, Florida,

1771
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:44,730
Sharon Selzer in LaGrange,
Lagrange Kentucky. Keith by the

1772
01:49:44,730 --> 01:49:48,420
way in Vidic has has a birthday
is not on the list. It's not

1773
01:49:48,450 --> 01:49:53,610
just not highlighted in yellow.
Okay. Keith B Buechler. In

1774
01:49:53,610 --> 01:49:57,780
Covington, Louisiana. Larry
Peters Geez in Arlington, Texas,

1775
01:49:57,780 --> 01:50:00,720
down the street from you,
Lawrence front Check Sir

1776
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:05,370
Lawrence actually, in Danville
and I'm going to try to scroll

1777
01:50:05,370 --> 01:50:06,090
down without this thing

1778
01:50:06,090 --> 01:50:08,820
skipping like mine is not
skipping mine is doing quite

1779
01:50:08,820 --> 01:50:09,660
well apparently there's a

1780
01:50:09,660 --> 01:50:12,780
code that you can put into the
spreadsheet, and it won't skip.

1781
01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:18,540
Ah. So I think the code has been
installed. Lawrence Francesc

1782
01:50:18,540 --> 01:50:23,070
sirloin. She just got him. Mark
Baden Deford in Spanish for

1783
01:50:23,100 --> 01:50:31,440
Alabama, Matthew Thomas Brunner,
Missouri. Matthew, why we win

1784
01:50:31,470 --> 01:50:36,360
doll? When did all when When did
all what do you think? Vernon

1785
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:41,550
Hills, Illinois? Melody man in
Rheingold, Louisiana Michael

1786
01:50:41,550 --> 01:50:45,480
Miller Sir Michael Miller and
Tiburon Baron Michael Zelina.

1787
01:50:45,480 --> 01:50:49,590
Parts Unknown my Magewell deli
on Donna's street from you and

1788
01:50:49,590 --> 01:50:56,310
Houston. Nicola Nicola off in
North burrow Massachusetts, me

1789
01:50:56,310 --> 01:51:01,020
girl was in Austin, actually
really down the street. Not

1790
01:51:01,020 --> 01:51:01,530
Houston.

1791
01:51:02,250 --> 01:51:04,260
No, I said, Houston. I thought I
said Austin.

1792
01:51:04,290 --> 01:51:08,040
No, you said Houston. I did.
Yeah. Yeah. The whole joke of

1793
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,350
down the street from me. It's
like little old now.

1794
01:51:12,450 --> 01:51:16,620
It is. But isn't he down the
street? Now when he's from

1795
01:51:16,620 --> 01:51:21,960
Nikolaev Alba and Brandon's in
Florida, sir. Snakes snakes

1796
01:51:21,990 --> 01:51:26,640
snakes. Sir Pete. Have a ball
with a prison thing. Make sure

1797
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:28,830
to emphasize how the rest of the
world politicians forget to

1798
01:51:28,830 --> 01:51:36,510
freak out about this. Peter
Pukki Pooky What do you think

1799
01:51:36,510 --> 01:51:39,060
puky wouldn't be puky they
haven't been eaten.

1800
01:51:39,540 --> 01:51:40,770
Like puky better.

1801
01:51:41,250 --> 01:51:47,850
By Bowmanville. Ontario, good.
Ray Mets and San Diego. Richard

1802
01:51:47,850 --> 01:51:54,120
Garrett in Thunder Bay, Ontario.
Rick Gibbs in Woodbury. Robert

1803
01:51:54,120 --> 01:52:02,100
gold in Toronto. Robert Hegedus
isn't he has sir. Spring Texas.

1804
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:08,310
John Jordan Evans, Georgia Ray
couture in Billings, Montana,

1805
01:52:08,340 --> 01:52:12,510
not related to the couture. I
wouldn't think Sam Leung Baron

1806
01:52:12,540 --> 01:52:19,140
Sam in Toronto. Scott L. Brecht
and Windsor, Seth Griffin,

1807
01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:23,340
Shannon Adkins and Warren
Michigan Shehzad I have to read

1808
01:52:23,340 --> 01:52:28,650
74 of these Shahzad Monsoor in
Philadelphia Stephen shown in

1809
01:52:28,650 --> 01:52:33,660
Independence Missoura. Stephen
E. Taft in Marietta, Georgia.

1810
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,060
Thomas Nussbaum Sir Thomas, do

1811
01:52:36,060 --> 01:52:39,180
you think you missed the Stephen
Dale Roscoe,

1812
01:52:39,480 --> 01:52:42,750
Stephen Dell, Roscoe and
Middleton Delaware? Hey go

1813
01:52:42,870 --> 01:52:46,560
Tammany Timothy, brush yours in
Koopalings.

1814
01:52:46,620 --> 01:52:48,690
Now you Mr. Thomas Nussbaum. I'm
sorry, I

1815
01:52:48,690 --> 01:52:52,710
just I said, Okay. All right. As
I said, Sir Thomas, no, sorry.

1816
01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:58,470
Todd Brink in New Berlin,
Wisconsin, Todd, LG in Katy,

1817
01:52:58,470 --> 01:53:04,890
Texas. Victor Greg in Parts
Unknown David bearson. Altoona,

1818
01:53:05,790 --> 01:53:13,050
Iowa. And that concludes our
16th I did. Now there's a couple

1819
01:53:13,050 --> 01:53:15,810
things here we have this the
record 74. But there may be some

1820
01:53:15,810 --> 01:53:19,770
make goods that show up and in a
revised spreadsheet and anyone

1821
01:53:19,770 --> 01:53:22,740
who came in after midnight, you
you didn't get in on this. And

1822
01:53:22,740 --> 01:53:26,100
that's quite as maybe 10. But
we're going to hold a record at

1823
01:53:26,100 --> 01:53:28,440
74 Until the next

1824
01:53:28,440 --> 01:53:31,620
six nine will be this this has
to end.

1825
01:53:32,250 --> 01:53:35,490
So we have so the next six nine
will be in five years.

1826
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:39,030
Well no, this is not true.
Because today was USA Swaziland

1827
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:43,680
off day, as most people pointed
out. The truce was enough of the

1828
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:46,890
world Swasey enough day will be
in

1829
01:53:47,790 --> 01:53:50,580
September. Yes, but I don't
think we have a show on that

1830
01:53:50,580 --> 01:53:52,710
day. Let's take a look. We can
still

1831
01:53:52,710 --> 01:53:55,860
celebrate the day with by doing

1832
01:53:55,860 --> 01:53:58,050
it. So it'd be nine.

1833
01:53:58,110 --> 01:54:01,860
It'll be September 6. Yes. Yeah.
Do we have a show Friday? It's

1834
01:54:01,860 --> 01:54:04,920
Friday. It'll still be world
squalls enough day by

1835
01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:06,330
presidential proclamation.

1836
01:54:06,630 --> 01:54:09,810
I will see. Anyway, so that's
our group and want to thank all

1837
01:54:09,810 --> 01:54:15,330
of them and a few more we have
to feed, which lesser amounts

1838
01:54:15,330 --> 01:54:21,180
and is six $50. I got Michael
Allen and Brooklyn at 5555. At

1839
01:54:21,180 --> 01:54:24,720
rocker 180 to go get him on
Twitter, Kevin Dandridge in

1840
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:30,360
Charleston, South Carolina 52
Joel pool and gray, Tennessee 50

1841
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:33,990
And then 50 from Tyler Doherty
in Savannah, Georgia. Great town

1842
01:54:33,990 --> 01:54:37,560
by the way, Mark Tanner,
Whittier, California, and Keith

1843
01:54:37,590 --> 01:54:41,460
Gibson and Holly Springs, North
Carolina. Since the show has

1844
01:54:41,460 --> 01:54:47,130
been great lately. Shout out to
the shill in Chapel Hill and

1845
01:54:47,130 --> 01:54:47,490
Vincent

1846
01:54:47,490 --> 01:54:49,710
Farrell who you skip I think
this spreadsheet needs to

1847
01:54:49,710 --> 01:54:53,670
changing because it's difficult
for you

1848
01:54:54,629 --> 01:54:57,449
I didn't say Vincent Farrell and
San Bruno California I don't

1849
01:54:57,449 --> 01:54:59,549
think so. No. And well he's I
said it now.

1850
01:55:00,750 --> 01:55:04,710
Yes you did indeed. Hey well
good showing everybody thank you

1851
01:55:04,710 --> 01:55:08,220
very much I made a personal plea
this time for us was enough and

1852
01:55:09,150 --> 01:55:12,000
it's a good Swaziland off
indeed. Particularly since

1853
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:16,290
Mickey will be home she will not
get stuck in Atlanta. She will

1854
01:55:16,290 --> 01:55:19,920
be home and I feel that we've
delivered some value for value

1855
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:22,470
so I feel pretty good about this
today. Thank you so much. We

1856
01:55:22,470 --> 01:55:25,530
have some make goods which I
don't know what they mean. John,

1857
01:55:25,530 --> 01:55:29,370
do you have a note on BART
Burton's and Marco Strauss?

1858
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:30,780
Where's this?

1859
01:55:31,020 --> 01:55:33,000
Well this showed up in the

1860
01:55:33,030 --> 01:55:35,040
there were there were mentioned
earlier and apparently that was

1861
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:37,110
part of the they were left off
the last spreadsheet so they

1862
01:55:37,110 --> 01:55:39,000
weren't mentioned gotcha gotcha
in the green

1863
01:55:39,630 --> 01:55:43,380
there Yeah. Oh, it's green is
that green? Okay got it.

1864
01:55:43,620 --> 01:55:45,780
I'm a little colorblind is green
on mine

1865
01:55:46,500 --> 01:55:49,530
I'm sure it's green I'd see it's
not it looks more like a sickly

1866
01:55:49,530 --> 01:55:53,280
yellow on mine but that's could
be just my monitor I want to

1867
01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:56,220
thank healthy surprise Did you
get a box

1868
01:55:56,970 --> 01:55:59,790
yes I did get a bunch of the
boxes are shrinking

1869
01:56:01,050 --> 01:56:03,630
well you know I think that's
right because

1870
01:56:03,630 --> 01:56:06,120
these guys that are making this
these products a lot of them are

1871
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:08,160
going out of business because
not all these products are

1872
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:08,670
edible.

1873
01:56:09,690 --> 01:56:12,390
Did you try anything new in the
healthy healthy Surprise Box

1874
01:56:14,130 --> 01:56:17,550
nothing that was that stood out
is I mean this stuff the old

1875
01:56:17,550 --> 01:56:19,920
classics like those little
macaroons and some of these

1876
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:23,070
other things that are just
delicious. Yeah, the Mac net

1877
01:56:23,070 --> 01:56:23,820
combinations.

1878
01:56:24,630 --> 01:56:29,550
I had the chips what was it? Was
that was one of the bigger bags

1879
01:56:29,550 --> 01:56:30,300
in there had kind

1880
01:56:30,300 --> 01:56:33,480
of the pineapple chips. No,

1881
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:40,080
no, no, it was like, what was
it? I can't remember what it was

1882
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:44,130
crisps more not like really
chips but more. There was light

1883
01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:46,770
light and new Azure gobbled them
up gobbled them

1884
01:56:46,770 --> 01:56:49,620
up. I like to the pineapple
chips.

1885
01:56:49,860 --> 01:56:54,690
Healthy surprise.com Always
hooks us up with with a box of

1886
01:56:55,530 --> 01:56:57,360
a box of fried food. Yeah, free
food.

1887
01:56:57,360 --> 01:56:59,550
Well we like it and it keeps
forever that stuff. That's what

1888
01:56:59,550 --> 01:57:02,220
I like about it is that stuff is
never goes out of stock.

1889
01:57:02,610 --> 01:57:05,100
The real drawback to that box is
there's always something with

1890
01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:05,790
kale.

1891
01:57:07,290 --> 01:57:10,170
I'm not big on kale dried

1892
01:57:10,170 --> 01:57:14,970
kale, kale chips, kale,
doughnuts, kale, all these

1893
01:57:14,970 --> 01:57:18,480
different kinds of kale things
they're terrible. Doughnuts.

1894
01:57:18,510 --> 01:57:19,110
Okay.

1895
01:57:21,870 --> 01:57:25,800
Kale doughnuts. Also at least
Garling did she send you a

1896
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:28,140
bottle of wine of her homemade
wine?

1897
01:57:29,730 --> 01:57:31,800
You talking about the lemon did
no not

1898
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:34,260
the lemon cello? I know you got
that? No, she's she sent me a

1899
01:57:34,260 --> 01:57:37,620
bottle of her homemade wine
which I have not consumed yet.

1900
01:57:37,950 --> 01:57:41,730
I'm waiting to consume that with
with a lovely Ms. Mickey. I'm

1901
01:57:41,730 --> 01:57:43,950
looking forward to that. No,

1902
01:57:43,980 --> 01:57:45,060
I didn't get a bottle of wine.

1903
01:57:45,780 --> 01:57:48,750
I think she actually said in the
note don't let John get his

1904
01:57:48,750 --> 01:57:51,150
panties in a bunch he's getting
one too so

1905
01:57:51,599 --> 01:57:55,109
a motion she she makes it one
bottle at a time but now i don't

1906
01:57:55,109 --> 01:57:57,989
know i don't know maybe it's
good be she's fermenting as we

1907
01:57:57,989 --> 01:57:58,259
speak

1908
01:57:58,260 --> 01:58:02,310
these are hot Fisher chick from
Alaska. They're so so this was

1909
01:58:02,310 --> 01:58:08,070
fun Washington. Yeah, whatever.
Same thing. Washington Alaska is

1910
01:58:08,070 --> 01:58:12,720
that kind of the same area
kinda. Anyway, thank you very

1911
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:15,840
much for supporting the
Swaziland off and for supporting

1912
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:19,200
the program that's highly
appreciated. To everyone who who

1913
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:22,860
checked in and of course to our
executive producer and Associate

1914
01:58:22,860 --> 01:58:27,330
Executive Producer for episode
520. And if you feel that you're

1915
01:58:27,330 --> 01:58:29,640
getting value for value on this
program, then go to the

1916
01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:33,120
vorak.org/n A.

1917
01:58:40,500 --> 01:58:44,550
We say happy birthday to
rainstick Sherry who celebrates

1918
01:58:44,550 --> 01:58:49,320
today? David Smith turned 41
Yesterday. Karen cell says Happy

1919
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:53,010
Birthday to Bradley cells have
turned 47 He turns 47 Tomorrow.

1920
01:58:54,030 --> 01:58:57,630
Kevin Dandridge says Happy
Birthday to his beautiful

1921
01:58:57,630 --> 01:59:01,410
Brazilian wife Alba send
pictures please. Joel pool and

1922
01:59:01,410 --> 01:59:05,100
Brian say happy birthday to the
dame Dame Vicky pool Happy

1923
01:59:05,100 --> 01:59:07,440
birthday to you and I'm gonna
guess celebrated yesterday happy

1924
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:10,140
birthday from all of your
friends here the best podcast in

1925
01:59:10,140 --> 01:59:11,250
the universe.

1926
01:59:13,890 --> 01:59:16,800
And we had on Victus in there.
Yeah, I just threw it at the

1927
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:19,920
end. I couldn't hear because I
had this rain stick going. Yeah.

1928
01:59:20,550 --> 01:59:21,120
Yeah, that's

1929
01:59:21,180 --> 01:59:26,130
that's that's the drawback. Sir
page snakes is officially a

1930
01:59:26,130 --> 01:59:29,520
Baronet. want to mention that
that his title changes today? A

1931
01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:33,810
second knighthood? He had no
idea that he he overlooked his

1932
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:37,260
his knighthood. I second night
it over a year ago.

1933
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,140
Yeah, there's a couple that we
have to bring up to speed. Yeah.

1934
01:59:40,890 --> 01:59:43,860
And we want to apologize to Greg
Brunson who has been a knight

1935
01:59:43,860 --> 01:59:48,150
forever and we keep because he
comes in at a I don't know why

1936
01:59:48,150 --> 01:59:48,960
it doesn't show up.

1937
01:59:49,050 --> 01:59:53,280
And we got a note which I will
read because we do have a a

1938
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:58,230
Daming today, in the morning,
boys. I've given Adam and Miss

1939
01:59:58,230 --> 02:00:01,530
Mickey a blanket sent cashed did
the show and enjoyed the water

1940
02:00:01,530 --> 02:00:04,800
conferred by the rain stick. I
listened to the big voice and

1941
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:08,550
sentence was enough lucra I've
hit people in the mouth and

1942
02:00:08,550 --> 02:00:12,000
thrown shoes. I have been a good
little slave. But lately, I've

1943
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:14,370
been spinning questioning
authority and reading Atlas

1944
02:00:14,370 --> 02:00:17,910
Shrugged. Come to find out I'm
not turning into an Illuminati,

1945
02:00:18,210 --> 02:00:21,210
but I turned into a game weeks
ago when I didn't even know it

1946
02:00:21,390 --> 02:00:23,970
included me at the roundtable
please I have an appetite for

1947
02:00:23,970 --> 02:00:27,150
Mudbugs and moonshine. Oh no,
not

1948
02:00:27,150 --> 02:00:28,080
another one. I'm

1949
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:29,250
gonna add it right now.

1950
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:31,590
Mudbug Mudbugs

1951
02:00:33,660 --> 02:00:36,330
and moonshine Now do you
remember who this is?

1952
02:00:37,740 --> 02:00:40,410
No, not offhand. So you get a
blanket and

1953
02:00:40,470 --> 02:00:44,670
no you didn't? You did not as
you will be Lady of the loom.

1954
02:00:45,150 --> 02:00:50,850
Day melody when we were in on
the Hot Pockets tour. She is the

1955
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:56,160
producer who said that we helped
her get through her chemo her Oh

1956
02:00:56,160 --> 02:00:59,280
that's right. Her whole cancer
and I said no no you got through

1957
02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:02,220
cancer said no no. You guys got
me through cancer and the

1958
02:01:02,220 --> 02:01:05,610
blanket that she needed for us.
Do you I don't know if

1959
02:01:05,610 --> 02:01:10,920
you have this knitted or loomed
it's knitted knitted knitted

1960
02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:11,370
blankets.

1961
02:01:11,730 --> 02:01:15,690
And it's whew it's a two person
blanket. Yeah, no I'm absolutely

1962
02:01:15,690 --> 02:01:19,380
sure because we talked about it
if you have this we that's our

1963
02:01:19,380 --> 02:01:22,140
go to blanket Do you have one of
those like a go to blanket in

1964
02:01:22,140 --> 02:01:22,740
the house where?

1965
02:01:23,219 --> 02:01:27,059
Yes I do from and it tends to be
my blankets tend to be from

1966
02:01:27,059 --> 02:01:27,599
Peru.

1967
02:01:28,290 --> 02:01:33,030
Well, mine's from Dallas. But if
it's between you and me, we love

1968
02:01:33,330 --> 02:01:38,910
we love our blanket. And it's
very special to us because of

1969
02:01:38,910 --> 02:01:41,880
the story behind it. So we
really liked that and very happy

1970
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:46,590
to bring you in to the exclusive
club if John if you wouldn't

1971
02:01:46,590 --> 02:01:47,310
mind and we can have

1972
02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:52,440
a second I can't get stuck. Let
me get some WD 40 Okay.

1973
02:01:54,300 --> 02:01:59,430
Wow, theater of the mind ladies
and gentlemen. Melody man

1974
02:01:59,430 --> 02:02:02,850
stepped forward. We are very
very proud to have you still

1975
02:02:02,850 --> 02:02:08,460
with us first of all, and at the
no agenda roundtable of Knights

1976
02:02:08,460 --> 02:02:12,300
and Dames. Thanks for your
contributions of which they are

1977
02:02:12,300 --> 02:02:16,800
many. I hereby pronounce the day
melody man Lady of the loom.

1978
02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:20,250
Come on for your hookers and
blow rent boys and Chardonnay,

1979
02:02:20,670 --> 02:02:24,990
long haired man heavy metal guys
and Scotch vodka and vanilla

1980
02:02:24,990 --> 02:02:28,380
bong hits and bourbon sparkling
cider and escorts mutton to meet

1981
02:02:28,380 --> 02:02:35,040
or buy your choice Mudbugs and
moonshine Can I skip a couple

1982
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:37,470
there for the for the dames
because he or she may want the

1983
02:02:37,470 --> 02:02:40,890
long haired heavy metal guys and
Scotch but she may not want the

1984
02:02:40,890 --> 02:02:43,470
winches and beer I don't think
so. Just knowing her a little

1985
02:02:43,470 --> 02:02:45,690
bit. Right should be holding to
that.

1986
02:02:46,500 --> 02:02:49,380
You should have two lists. Yeah.
Oh, yeah.

1987
02:02:49,710 --> 02:02:56,790
To read from to read from I tell
you. Oh, man.

1988
02:02:58,620 --> 02:02:59,760
Well, let's see.

1989
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:01,140
Oh, I have something funny.

1990
02:03:01,770 --> 02:03:02,790
I got some funny.

1991
02:03:03,870 --> 02:03:05,490
Yeah, it's not as funny as what
I got.

1992
02:03:05,849 --> 02:03:08,099
Okay, play your funny thing
first.

1993
02:03:08,130 --> 02:03:17,250
Here's what I have. Why does it
play man who's gone? No agenda

1994
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:22,380
show. Little faster. Now. I
think that the faster one I

1995
02:03:23,190 --> 02:03:28,710
think it is the faster one. This
came in from Torrey Pines, high

1996
02:03:28,710 --> 02:03:34,710
school San Diego student voices.
And this is it's actually a that

1997
02:03:34,710 --> 02:03:40,290
is a I guess from the the
student newspaper and they have

1998
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:44,670
a couple of slave slaves in
training. The question is, was

1999
02:03:44,670 --> 02:03:47,640
the Justice Department was the
Department of Justice? Correct.

2000
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:53,280
And using a subpoena to access
associated presses records? Are

2001
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:55,800
you interested in hearing what
the students of Torrey Pines

2002
02:03:55,800 --> 02:03:57,330
High School in San Diego say?

2003
02:03:59,460 --> 02:04:00,510
Oh, absolutely.

2004
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:04,860
Charlie Pope nine years old says
they are justified. If one of

2005
02:04:04,860 --> 02:04:07,980
the CIA's own told the person
the information then it's their

2006
02:04:08,010 --> 02:04:12,360
own responsibility. Casey
Cunningham 10 years old, she

2007
02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:16,290
says it was for the overall good
of everyone involved. national

2008
02:04:16,290 --> 02:04:19,560
security is more important than
someone writing in a newspaper.

2009
02:04:20,070 --> 02:04:27,360
Oh. Ali Zimmer is 11. Yeah, I
think it's okay. Because it's

2010
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:30,450
our country. And they're doing
this to keep us safe. It's a

2011
02:04:30,450 --> 02:04:37,140
reasonable thing to do. And, and
finally, Santiago Quintana,

2012
02:04:37,140 --> 02:04:41,340
who's 12 says, Hey, man, not
wiretapping would compromise the

2013
02:04:41,340 --> 02:04:45,060
safety of our nation. The AP
should be sorry, maybe even

2014
02:04:45,060 --> 02:04:48,660
properly say so. There you go.
Ladies and gentlemen, that's

2015
02:04:48,660 --> 02:04:52,950
your future. That is that is
truly the future of the slaves

2016
02:04:52,950 --> 02:04:55,710
in America. And yet, plus your

2017
02:04:55,710 --> 02:05:03,390
future and who's going to eat
his On the no agenda show, which

2018
02:05:03,390 --> 02:05:10,170
brings me to the Bill Maher
little rant about the bought the

2019
02:05:10,170 --> 02:05:13,530
declar. about them. Sorry, the
Bill of Rights. Can you can play

2020
02:05:13,530 --> 02:05:14,610
that, please? Yes.

2021
02:05:14,610 --> 02:05:17,430
One second Maher. Absolutely
yes.

2022
02:05:18,090 --> 02:05:22,320
And by the way, before I start,
it's less offensive what Bill

2023
02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:25,860
Maher said than the audience's
reaction to what Bill Maher

2024
02:05:25,860 --> 02:05:26,340
said, oh,

2025
02:05:26,340 --> 02:05:29,880
boy about this before on the
show, if it's good for the goose

2026
02:05:29,940 --> 02:05:32,400
is good for the gander. Well,
no, I mean, if the Fourth

2027
02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:35,070
Amendment now is up for debate,
and apparently it is because all

2028
02:05:35,070 --> 02:05:37,200
these things we're doing if you
go through the Fourth Amendment,

2029
02:05:37,200 --> 02:05:40,230
you go line by line. Now we've
kind of really abrogated that.

2030
02:05:40,470 --> 02:05:43,680
Then why isn't the Second
Amendment up for debate? It's

2031
02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:49,980
just as obsolete as the Fourth
Amendment. It's true. No, no,

2032
02:05:49,980 --> 02:05:55,350
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no. The applause sign went on.

2033
02:05:55,380 --> 02:05:58,920
They don't know what their Well,
yeah. They didn't actually

2034
02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:00,270
listen to what he said.

2035
02:06:01,170 --> 02:06:04,650
What he said essentially, was
that the Bill of Rights, which

2036
02:06:04,650 --> 02:06:07,710
includes the Second Amendment
and the Fourth Amendment, and

2037
02:06:07,710 --> 02:06:10,740
the First Amendment and the 10th
amendment, and everything in

2038
02:06:10,740 --> 02:06:16,350
between is up for grabs, because
because we've or he's accepted

2039
02:06:16,470 --> 02:06:20,850
the government story on the
Fourth Amendment being useless

2040
02:06:20,850 --> 02:06:24,900
or archaic or, or old fashioned
or whatever the heck, he said,

2041
02:06:25,020 --> 02:06:29,040
This is the most disgusting
person in the world to do this.

2042
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:32,970
It's the most anti American
thing he's done. To say that,

2043
02:06:33,090 --> 02:06:37,800
essentially the Bill of Rights
is bullcrap. So there's no

2044
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:40,560
freedom of a union, if it's up
for grabs, good for the good,

2045
02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:43,830
good, good for the goose good
for the gander. That said, take

2046
02:06:43,830 --> 02:06:46,080
another second. Look at the
First Amendment. Freedom of

2047
02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:49,200
Religion screw that freedom of
the press, freedom of assembly,

2048
02:06:49,260 --> 02:06:52,140
screw it. Well, di is This is

2049
02:06:52,200 --> 02:06:55,260
horrible. I don't know if I took
it that way. I took that a

2050
02:06:55,260 --> 02:06:59,340
little differently. I took it
for him to say it's I thought he

2051
02:06:59,340 --> 02:07:00,720
was saying it facetiously

2052
02:07:01,530 --> 02:07:05,280
that I voted against the Second
Amendment. So why would he say

2053
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:06,330
it facetiously he

2054
02:07:06,330 --> 02:07:08,460
has a gun. He He's a gun owner.

2055
02:07:08,850 --> 02:07:12,120
That's beside the point. No, he
dipped out GD. He's not a

2056
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:15,510
facetious person. He meant it.
He meant that the Fourth

2057
02:07:15,510 --> 02:07:17,790
Amendment shot. So the second
amendment gotta go

2058
02:07:18,390 --> 02:07:21,810
show and we looked at the Fourth
Amendment. Well, we've looked at

2059
02:07:21,810 --> 02:07:25,050
it in the past. Again, we should
just talk about it for a second.

2060
02:07:25,230 --> 02:07:27,210
Because What's always
interesting about these, when

2061
02:07:27,210 --> 02:07:29,940
people say, Oh, there's the
Fourth Amendment, the First

2062
02:07:29,940 --> 02:07:33,510
Amendment, you sometimes just
gotta go and read it and just

2063
02:07:33,510 --> 02:07:37,110
see what it says. And let's see
if it's reasonable or not. I

2064
02:07:37,110 --> 02:07:39,510
have it here, the text of the
Fourth Amendment, the right of

2065
02:07:39,510 --> 02:07:45,030
the people to be secure in their
persons, houses, papers, and

2066
02:07:45,060 --> 02:07:50,490
effects, against unreasonable
searches and seizures shall not

2067
02:07:50,490 --> 02:07:56,310
be violated. So I like this is
again, this is the fourth

2068
02:07:56,310 --> 02:08:01,500
amendment is not a right. I have
the right to be secured by

2069
02:08:01,500 --> 02:08:04,440
person house paper and effects
against unreasonable search and

2070
02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:08,040
seizures. The fourth amendment
is telling the government you

2071
02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:12,630
cannot violate my already
existing rights. In addition, no

2072
02:08:12,630 --> 02:08:17,520
warrants shall be issued, but
upon probable cause supported by

2073
02:08:17,550 --> 02:08:21,540
oath or affirmation, and
particularly describing the

2074
02:08:21,540 --> 02:08:25,440
place to be searched, and the
persons or things to be seized.

2075
02:08:27,540 --> 02:08:29,070
Now, and that's the end,

2076
02:08:29,100 --> 02:08:32,220
I think they get around. Yeah,
that's the end if that's simple,

2077
02:08:33,420 --> 02:08:36,660
too. So it has been reasonably
encroached. And by the

2078
02:08:36,660 --> 02:08:39,720
way, I should mention this. The
reason this was written in the

2079
02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:43,650
first place is because during
the pre revolutionary war times,

2080
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:47,280
George the Third in his goons,
they were just bussing in

2081
02:08:47,280 --> 02:08:49,590
anybody's house whenever they
felt felt like it kind of like

2082
02:08:49,590 --> 02:08:50,910
what happened in Boston.

2083
02:08:51,870 --> 02:08:57,150
Yes, which there's a word for
that. And I had that last week,

2084
02:08:57,150 --> 02:09:01,170
because I was reading about the
governor, maybe a habit here. So

2085
02:09:01,170 --> 02:09:05,310
the governor, let me see if I
find this the governor of

2086
02:09:05,490 --> 02:09:09,390
Massachusetts. The story is
what's his name? I bet you still

2087
02:09:09,390 --> 02:09:14,310
have the story here somewhere.
What's his name? Govan govern

2088
02:09:14,310 --> 02:09:18,720
nor? What's his name, John. I
don't know. Why don't you know

2089
02:09:18,720 --> 02:09:21,360
this? You're the book of
knowledge. Patrick, that

2090
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:21,990
black guy

2091
02:09:23,310 --> 02:09:24,210
named Patrick

2092
02:09:24,390 --> 02:09:26,340
developed? Devall. Oh, now,

2093
02:09:26,640 --> 02:09:32,730
d v. Al. Yeah. I can't find it
offhand. Oh, yes. Here it is.

2094
02:09:33,660 --> 02:09:37,590
After here. This is pretty
funny, too. After the manhunt

2095
02:09:37,590 --> 02:09:44,460
was over, he apparently went out
and got hammered. Yeah, so So

2096
02:09:44,730 --> 02:09:46,230
just want to read this to you.
This is very interesting.

2097
02:09:46,470 --> 02:09:49,620
Governor Deval Patrick gave a
candid behind the scenes look at

2098
02:09:49,620 --> 02:09:52,980
the horrific days after the
Boston Marathon bombings telling

2099
02:09:52,980 --> 02:09:55,260
employees at a Cambridge
marketing firm yesterday he got

2100
02:09:55,260 --> 02:09:58,950
quite drunk the day after the
intense manhunt finally ended

2101
02:09:59,220 --> 02:10:01,590
and we know He got drunk because
he knows that there was no

2102
02:10:01,590 --> 02:10:03,810
evidence. There's no video
evidence of anything that went

2103
02:10:03,810 --> 02:10:04,200
on.

2104
02:10:04,530 --> 02:10:06,840
Right? And he was the one who
let the diseases of the

2105
02:10:06,840 --> 02:10:09,450
stormtroopers go in and out of
one house after another. So

2106
02:10:09,450 --> 02:10:12,780
here's how he plays it back, by
the way, dressed as Storm

2107
02:10:12,780 --> 02:10:13,410
Troopers.

2108
02:10:14,849 --> 02:10:18,869
Yes, that's even worse. Patrick
said the killing of bomber to

2109
02:10:18,869 --> 02:10:22,259
Marian Sarnath. And the capture
of his younger brother Dzhokhar

2110
02:10:22,259 --> 02:10:25,859
Tsarnaev on April 19, was a
relief, because people wouldn't

2111
02:10:25,859 --> 02:10:30,389
be bitching and moaning he said
about the unprecedented Shelter

2112
02:10:30,389 --> 02:10:34,409
in Place order he gave that day.
And he says he claims the

2113
02:10:34,409 --> 02:10:38,219
President called him and said,
hey, you've all How long had

2114
02:10:38,219 --> 02:10:41,189
that shelter in place in place?
Did you know about that is

2115
02:10:41,189 --> 02:10:43,919
called a shelter in place that
that was the I knew that that

2116
02:10:43,919 --> 02:10:46,499
was the words they used. I
didn't I think that's a great

2117
02:10:46,499 --> 02:10:50,309
term. I didn't know that shelter
in place. Isn't that mean? Like

2118
02:10:50,669 --> 02:10:52,109
crouch and cower?

2119
02:10:52,470 --> 02:10:55,200
It's the same thing as they do
with those kids. In the school's

2120
02:10:55,230 --> 02:10:55,890
yes shelter.

2121
02:10:55,920 --> 02:10:58,140
That's exactly what it is. Go
crouch in the in the dark

2122
02:10:58,140 --> 02:11:04,890
closet. cower in the corner and
be in a wimp. Yeah. Kratos

2123
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:06,750
crouches, Hauer well, that look.

2124
02:11:07,260 --> 02:11:09,420
Well, that what did the
President told him? What was the

2125
02:11:09,450 --> 02:11:10,740
give go back to that

2126
02:11:11,189 --> 02:11:16,769
key said? He said, Deval, I'm
briefed. What are you going to

2127
02:11:16,769 --> 02:11:18,869
do about the city? You can't
keep it locked down

2128
02:11:18,869 --> 02:11:22,499
indefinitely. I said, Mr.
President, I know that. I'm

2129
02:11:22,499 --> 02:11:25,889
trying to sort that out now.
Basically, the state police said

2130
02:11:26,039 --> 02:11:30,239
had said we should end this when
we finished the door to door in

2131
02:11:30,239 --> 02:11:32,579
Watertown. So if we haven't
found him, we should say to

2132
02:11:32,579 --> 02:11:35,909
people, look, live your lives.
But please be careful because

2133
02:11:35,909 --> 02:11:41,369
he's still at large. And it's
just more about him being drunk.

2134
02:11:44,070 --> 02:11:45,990
Interesting. Yeah. I like that.

2135
02:11:47,970 --> 02:11:49,110
Crouch and cower.

2136
02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:53,010
So you remember when we did the

2137
02:11:53,490 --> 02:11:55,230
what? So?

2138
02:12:00,090 --> 02:12:03,600
You catch yourself more than I
catch myself at the moment.

2139
02:12:05,700 --> 02:12:07,320
Anyways, anywho.

2140
02:12:11,130 --> 02:12:16,020
Horrible. No, that's not that's
an unnecessary unnecessary

2141
02:12:16,020 --> 02:12:19,260
roughness. I call it

2142
02:12:21,270 --> 02:12:23,940
we heard a story. We talked
about this some time back when

2143
02:12:23,940 --> 02:12:26,460
there was some stuff we're
picking up on C span about the

2144
02:12:26,460 --> 02:12:32,220
massacre that took place on in
Yemen that early in Obama's

2145
02:12:32,220 --> 02:12:38,610
bombing career placements. The
place was called some it was

2146
02:12:38,610 --> 02:12:40,650
some village where they kill all
these women. It's where

2147
02:12:40,650 --> 02:12:43,830
they make the cuts the drugs.
And so

2148
02:12:45,510 --> 02:12:50,070
don't want to play that clip,
which is the same here. Where is

2149
02:12:50,070 --> 02:12:52,950
it attack in Yemen. We heard
about first time that time you

2150
02:12:52,950 --> 02:12:53,400
play that

2151
02:12:53,430 --> 02:12:56,100
and I wanted to turn to another
attack. And that's the case of

2152
02:12:56,100 --> 02:12:56,760
Modula.

2153
02:12:57,510 --> 02:13:00,540
Well, the the the first time
that President Obama authorized

2154
02:13:00,990 --> 02:13:04,830
a any strikes against Yemen was
December 17 2009. Yemen had been

2155
02:13:04,830 --> 02:13:07,680
bombed by the United States once
before that under President Bush

2156
02:13:07,680 --> 02:13:11,790
in November of 2002. And
President Obama was expanding

2157
02:13:11,790 --> 02:13:14,100
the authorities for the Joint
Special Operations Command in

2158
02:13:14,100 --> 02:13:18,150
the CA to strike in countries
beyond Afghanistan and elsewhere

2159
02:13:18,150 --> 02:13:22,590
around the world. And in this
first missile attack, the US use

2160
02:13:22,590 --> 02:13:25,560
cruise missiles and cluster
bombs on this small Bedouin

2161
02:13:25,560 --> 02:13:30,450
village in the in Modula in
Abyan province, and they said

2162
02:13:30,450 --> 02:13:33,270
that they were targeting a an al
Qaeda leader and then all kinds

2163
02:13:33,270 --> 02:13:38,100
of training camp. And it turned
out that the bombing killed 46

2164
02:13:38,430 --> 02:13:41,820
people, 14 women and 21
children, and the Yemeni

2165
02:13:41,820 --> 02:13:44,160
government actually took
responsibility for the strikes,

2166
02:13:44,310 --> 02:13:46,920
and said that its own Air Force
had conducted it and that it was

2167
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:50,190
a successful attack against an
al Qaeda base. And the United

2168
02:13:50,190 --> 02:13:55,680
States began conspiring with the
Yemeni regime to bomb Yemen, and

2169
02:13:55,680 --> 02:13:58,170
then have the Yemenis take
responsibility for it. And

2170
02:13:58,170 --> 02:14:00,270
General David Petraeus, the
CENTCOM commander was revealed

2171
02:14:00,270 --> 02:14:03,540
in the WikiLeaks cables to have
hatched this plot with the

2172
02:14:03,540 --> 02:14:06,720
Yemeni dictator Ali Abdullah
Saleh. But this was one of the

2173
02:14:06,720 --> 02:14:09,930
most gruesome attacks that's
been conducted over the past

2174
02:14:09,930 --> 02:14:14,100
three years in Yemen, shredding
human beings, children and women

2175
02:14:14,100 --> 02:14:16,290
in this strike that they said
was aimed at an al Qaeda camp.

2176
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:17,850
Good work.

2177
02:14:18,900 --> 02:14:22,020
So we've talked about this
before that with these details,

2178
02:14:22,020 --> 02:14:24,870
they also had some people on
from Yemen including this one

2179
02:14:24,870 --> 02:14:27,510
guy, who was describing
essentially this was like

2180
02:14:27,510 --> 02:14:31,290
hundreds of cows and sheep, and
goats, and these women and

2181
02:14:31,290 --> 02:14:33,750
children and when the cluster
bombs came in, it blew

2182
02:14:33,750 --> 02:14:37,710
everything up, killed all these
animals, which I think at least

2183
02:14:37,710 --> 02:14:40,710
Obama bots can get worked up
about that kill all these

2184
02:14:40,710 --> 02:14:43,680
animals. And according to this
guy who was was on the scene

2185
02:14:43,680 --> 02:14:48,720
later, he says that it was like
meat, mixed meat. We had pieces

2186
02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:52,530
of cow with humans, disgusting
description, and it was all

2187
02:14:52,590 --> 02:14:55,920
burned up and stuff. Yeah, it
was just a horrible it's

2188
02:14:55,920 --> 02:14:58,560
probably stunk to high heaven.
Whatever the case. She's

2189
02:14:58,890 --> 02:15:01,890
explaining kind of this at The
end of the Democracy Now show

2190
02:15:01,890 --> 02:15:03,690
and this is one of the things I
want to point out with this

2191
02:15:03,690 --> 02:15:07,470
clip, which is the Democracy
Now, or Amy Goodman and show in

2192
02:15:07,470 --> 02:15:10,020
a hurry. This is one of the
reasons I want to point out to

2193
02:15:10,020 --> 02:15:13,470
people why you're supporting
this show because we never in

2194
02:15:13,470 --> 02:15:16,950
fact broadcasters can get around
this but generally speaking,

2195
02:15:17,130 --> 02:15:21,030
it's disgusting to have to end
the show when the middle of

2196
02:15:21,030 --> 02:15:24,690
somebody's chatting and here's
an example honestly, we could

2197
02:15:24,690 --> 02:15:29,490
only found very very few home
with a karaoke and I and we've

2198
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:36,720
mixed with hundreds of sheep and
goats. And I mean they were all

2199
02:15:36,720 --> 02:15:43,140
mixed together I mean with blood
and they got bombed with about

2200
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:44,670
six or seven

2201
02:15:46,320 --> 02:15:50,340
shape salad men curry and masala
Locky. I want to thank you both

2202
02:15:50,340 --> 02:15:53,160
for being with us. We're so
sorry The broadcast has ended we

2203
02:15:53,160 --> 02:15:56,370
will continue the conversation
after posted@democracynow.org

2204
02:15:56,670 --> 02:16:00,570
Dirty Wars which covers this
opens today in Washington DC in

2205
02:16:00,570 --> 02:16:03,900
Los Angeles and in New York at
the IFC and Lincoln Plaza in

2206
02:16:03,900 --> 02:16:06,840
Washington nice street theater
and in at the landmark theater

2207
02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:07,680
in Los Angeles.

2208
02:16:07,710 --> 02:16:10,710
I'll be touring at the Laugh
Factory and

2209
02:16:11,100 --> 02:16:13,710
she gets all his plugs in at the
embassy can't let the guy

2210
02:16:13,710 --> 02:16:16,500
finish. This is why the show
stayed

2211
02:16:16,530 --> 02:16:21,210
it was a mixed meet shish kebab
plate with smelled really

2212
02:16:21,240 --> 02:16:23,670
delicious. Very nice.

2213
02:16:23,700 --> 02:16:27,780
I think that some of the media
people can't get it out of their

2214
02:16:27,780 --> 02:16:29,580
heads that they're, you know,
the people that work in these

2215
02:16:29,580 --> 02:16:33,390
commercial operations can't help
themselves. Yeah. So I think

2216
02:16:33,390 --> 02:16:35,850
it's getting to them because you
can play this clip Central

2217
02:16:35,850 --> 02:16:38,790
Coast. You'll see what I'm
talking about. This is a little

2218
02:16:38,850 --> 02:16:41,970
outro but this week's Ag Report,
I'm Brianna Berman solo your

2219
02:16:41,970 --> 02:16:43,320
Central Coast News.

2220
02:16:45,600 --> 02:16:49,020
Right. So how come I didn't
understand this one, I think

2221
02:16:49,140 --> 02:16:53,340
Central Coast News. But this
week's Ag Report. I'm Brianna

2222
02:16:53,340 --> 02:16:56,940
Berman solo you're Central Coast
News. Yes.

2223
02:16:58,469 --> 02:17:01,229
That's right. It was the Ag
Report. So yes, it was this

2224
02:17:01,229 --> 02:17:01,739
news.

2225
02:17:02,160 --> 02:17:04,140
What are you doing? Central
kosher?

2226
02:17:04,260 --> 02:17:06,930
What are you doing watching the
Ag Report Dvorak?

2227
02:17:07,830 --> 02:17:10,020
Always watch them. It's very
important to California to watch

2228
02:17:10,020 --> 02:17:12,870
the Ag reports. Half now if you
didn't think that was bad

2229
02:17:12,870 --> 02:17:16,230
enough. Yeah. Oh, no. Okay,
we're wrapping up the armed

2230
02:17:16,230 --> 02:17:19,440
services committees finally
voted on a bill. And they're

2231
02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:22,170
going to just pass it. And
they're and they're in the

2232
02:17:22,170 --> 02:17:25,830
process of doing the voting and
the rest of it. And, and then

2233
02:17:25,860 --> 02:17:28,050
this happens, clowning in
Congress.

2234
02:17:30,510 --> 02:17:33,660
The Chair now recognizes
gentleman from Texas, Mr.

2235
02:17:33,660 --> 02:17:36,840
Thornberry, Vice Chair of the
House for the purpose of a

2236
02:17:36,840 --> 02:17:40,620
motion as chairman, I move the
committee report the bill hr

2237
02:17:40,620 --> 02:17:45,570
1960, as amended favorably to
the house with a recommendation

2238
02:17:45,570 --> 02:17:49,110
that it do pass. The question is
on the motion of the gentleman

2239
02:17:49,110 --> 02:17:53,340
from Texas, Ms. Thornberry, so
many as are in favor will vote

2240
02:17:53,340 --> 02:17:56,580
aye. Those opposed no.

2241
02:18:00,389 --> 02:18:02,399
I call for a vote. I want to
count.

2242
02:18:02,910 --> 02:18:05,910
I'm sorry to interrupt this,
this this late date, but I would

2243
02:18:05,910 --> 02:18:08,520
be doing a bad job. Right. We
have a member of our staff whose

2244
02:18:08,520 --> 02:18:18,060
birthday is today as well. We
don't have a song. Thing. kind

2245
02:18:18,060 --> 02:18:21,540
of embarrassed about that. But
Tim mcleese, who has done an

2246
02:18:21,570 --> 02:18:23,010
outstanding job for us?

2247
02:18:28,500 --> 02:18:33,120
What is going on? If you want to
quit quit if you want to quickly

2248
02:18:33,150 --> 02:18:36,510
quickly sing the Republican
song. Republican sorry, I don't

2249
02:18:36,630 --> 02:18:40,740
I don't remember it. But is is
your birthday song.

2250
02:18:40,770 --> 02:18:47,640
It doesn't last too long. Second
verse is much like the first.

2251
02:18:48,210 --> 02:18:52,020
This is your birthday song. It
doesn't last too long. I'm

2252
02:18:52,020 --> 02:18:57,000
trying to give you guys a chance
to learn this. It takes some of

2253
02:18:57,000 --> 02:19:01,290
us years. Happy birthday.

2254
02:19:03,360 --> 02:19:09,840
I'd like to thank the members
for working in such a harmonious

2255
02:19:09,870 --> 02:19:14,520
bipartisan manner. This,

2256
02:19:15,180 --> 02:19:18,120
it's what it was you're watching
your Congress at work.

2257
02:19:18,270 --> 02:19:21,870
Wow. And then they get thanked
for the harmonious manner in

2258
02:19:21,870 --> 02:19:25,830
which they sang together. All
right, well, then I get to do

2259
02:19:25,830 --> 02:19:29,220
something stupid. That was on
television. This came in this

2260
02:19:29,220 --> 02:19:32,820
morning. I'm sure you've heard
about it. So the Bilderberg

2261
02:19:32,820 --> 02:19:37,080
Group for that. What do you call
John? The drinking club is going

2262
02:19:37,080 --> 02:19:40,290
on over there in Watford.
Watford I believe is where Elton

2263
02:19:40,290 --> 02:19:45,360
John is from. I think it's kind
of divided. I think he's

2264
02:19:45,630 --> 02:19:49,260
performing in the foyer
actually. And, you know, every

2265
02:19:49,260 --> 02:19:53,160
single year in the we've we've
looked at this I've met a couple

2266
02:19:53,160 --> 02:19:57,870
Bilderbergers the current
minister of foreign affairs that

2267
02:19:57,870 --> 02:20:00,330
afford this Secretary of State I
guess is what you'd call Holland

2268
02:20:00,330 --> 02:20:03,420
in the Netherlands. He's the guy
that I interviewed him once on

2269
02:20:03,420 --> 02:20:05,430
the Dutch radio show where they
burned the station to the

2270
02:20:05,430 --> 02:20:09,090
ground. And he said, You're
doing very important work here.

2271
02:20:09,150 --> 02:20:11,490
You got to continue this. He was
trying to like give me a clue

2272
02:20:11,490 --> 02:20:16,110
like, we're really up to no
good. But this Bilderberg and I

2273
02:20:16,110 --> 02:20:20,310
was like, oh, and then the last
last time was oh, there Romney

2274
02:20:20,310 --> 02:20:22,620
is the man that we're the New
World Order has determined

2275
02:20:22,620 --> 02:20:25,860
Romney is going to win. Well,
how'd that work out. So now I'm

2276
02:20:25,860 --> 02:20:31,140
much more on the, on the
drinking club front. But lately,

2277
02:20:31,170 --> 02:20:35,880
but this year, there must be
3000 people out there and it's

2278
02:20:35,880 --> 02:20:40,770
funny because you can see now,
the weather some of them are I'm

2279
02:20:40,770 --> 02:20:43,590
sure some people doing it
intentionally. I have always

2280
02:20:43,590 --> 02:20:47,370
suspected Alex Jones of doing
this. You know, there was an

2281
02:20:47,370 --> 02:20:51,600
actual guy in a clown suit. The
clown makeup on running around

2282
02:20:51,960 --> 02:20:55,350
this man there's people
ventriloquist talking the whole

2283
02:20:55,380 --> 02:21:00,600
so it makes it look like a bunch
of nut jobs. True, true freakin

2284
02:21:00,600 --> 02:21:04,320
nut jobs, who really some people
have very good analysis, there's

2285
02:21:04,320 --> 02:21:08,340
some really intelligent people
there. You know, we we look, we

2286
02:21:08,340 --> 02:21:10,710
try to give you an alternative
version of what's happening in

2287
02:21:10,710 --> 02:21:15,690
the world. But what discredits
us time and time again, Alex

2288
02:21:15,690 --> 02:21:20,580
Jones is an aihole. He goes out
there, and he does the stuff on

2289
02:21:20,580 --> 02:21:23,880
mainstream television, which
makes it that much harder for

2290
02:21:23,880 --> 02:21:28,860
anyone to question, any type of
true conspiracy, which are the

2291
02:21:28,860 --> 02:21:31,680
stories the mainstream the
minority mainstream media

2292
02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:36,060
propagates, when you do things
like this on the BBC. And by the

2293
02:21:36,060 --> 02:21:39,630
way, there's no reason for him
to go on the BBC. He says he's

2294
02:21:39,630 --> 02:21:43,620
got 3 million listeners, 40
million people watch his videos.

2295
02:21:43,740 --> 02:21:48,870
There's no reason for him to go
on the BBC on a Sunday. Because

2296
02:21:48,870 --> 02:21:51,780
he's just always I mean, just
listening to how this ended. It

2297
02:21:51,780 --> 02:21:57,450
was unbelievable how he is
hurting, hurting the alternative

2298
02:21:57,450 --> 02:22:00,900
media's chances and reaching
anybody because the minute you

2299
02:22:00,900 --> 02:22:04,530
bring up anything now, people
think that this is who you are.

2300
02:22:04,560 --> 02:22:07,110
And that's why because the
establishment right know what to

2301
02:22:07,110 --> 02:22:11,010
do. Alex is this point and it's
an it's an important one, I

2302
02:22:11,010 --> 02:22:14,310
would have, say 10 years ago
said, listen to all this stuff.

2303
02:22:14,310 --> 02:22:18,870
He believes that people put
cancer virus in vaccines in

2304
02:22:18,870 --> 02:22:21,060
order to create a eugenics
program. That's what that's what

2305
02:22:21,060 --> 02:22:24,840
he believes. We would have said,
and we would I would have said

2306
02:22:24,930 --> 02:22:27,600
that's kind of mad and so on.
And it's an interesting

2307
02:22:27,600 --> 02:22:32,970
psychological problem.
Conspiracy theories like this.

2308
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:36,930
I believed I believed in I'm
here to warn people you keep

2309
02:22:36,930 --> 02:22:40,020
telling me to shut up. This
isn't a game. Okay. Our

2310
02:22:40,020 --> 02:22:43,200
government the US is building
FEMA camps. We have an NDA where

2311
02:22:43,200 --> 02:22:46,350
they disappear people now you
have this arrest for public

2312
02:22:46,350 --> 02:22:50,250
safety life in prison. You are
the worst person of interest No,

2313
02:22:50,250 --> 02:22:59,250
no, it's their heads disappear.
David, thanks for watching we

2314
02:22:59,250 --> 02:23:06,330
have a new program. Not stop the
Republic humanity's awakening

2315
02:23:06,420 --> 02:23:08,070
infowars.com

2316
02:23:08,670 --> 02:23:10,980
If you guys are probably looking
at the week ahead with our

2317
02:23:10,980 --> 02:23:16,200
political panel. The Sunday
politics crossed the finger the

2318
02:23:16,200 --> 02:23:17,580
public isn't waking up

2319
02:23:21,390 --> 02:23:23,040
well, you gotta give him credit.

2320
02:23:23,220 --> 02:23:28,530
He got the URL. And that's for
sure. twice now. So I think this

2321
02:23:28,590 --> 02:23:31,830
really she I think I think it's
unnecessary.

2322
02:23:32,760 --> 02:23:35,280
Before you go, Can you Can I
just interrupt for a second

2323
02:23:35,670 --> 02:23:38,820
before you because I want to
hear what you say. But this

2324
02:23:38,820 --> 02:23:42,960
reminds me of that guy that has
the question marks all over his

2325
02:23:43,170 --> 02:23:45,960
suit. Remember that guy? The
ribs? So the book height you get

2326
02:23:45,960 --> 02:23:49,470
all this money from the
government? Oh, yeah, that guy?

2327
02:23:49,470 --> 02:23:53,100
Yeah, he had all these question
marks over suit. He had an

2328
02:23:53,100 --> 02:23:56,850
agent. I won't mention his name
because it's ridiculous. Who

2329
02:23:56,850 --> 02:23:59,370
said you know what you ought to
do get annoyed and get a best

2330
02:23:59,370 --> 02:24:01,410
seller out of this because you
got the same guy. You know, that

2331
02:24:01,410 --> 02:24:04,770
guy forgot his name. You should
do something like that. This is

2332
02:24:04,770 --> 02:24:08,520
like this is like what Alex
Jones is doing. It's just a he's

2333
02:24:08,520 --> 02:24:10,470
just a clown. What? Yeah,

2334
02:24:10,529 --> 02:24:16,139
complete complete clown. Um,
here's the guy. I Hold on.

2335
02:24:16,139 --> 02:24:19,619
What's his name? I got I got him
on the Google's free money.

2336
02:24:19,619 --> 02:24:20,759
Matthew Lesko.

2337
02:24:21,179 --> 02:24:22,109
Yeah, let's go.

2338
02:24:22,890 --> 02:24:25,260
You know, you could pull it off.
Actually, I see if you if you

2339
02:24:25,260 --> 02:24:26,910
put on the suit and the bow tie.

2340
02:24:27,330 --> 02:24:33,030
The bow giants. Opposite to me
tells you you so what were you

2341
02:24:33,030 --> 02:24:36,420
thinking when you heard this?
That's a by the way. I will. No,

2342
02:24:36,420 --> 02:24:37,200
no, no, no, I

2343
02:24:37,200 --> 02:24:42,060
can't. I can't take it. I can't
take it. No. Two years ago.

2344
02:24:43,050 --> 02:24:44,310
Well, what was that? You can't

2345
02:24:44,310 --> 02:24:46,020
take the Clip of the Day. No,

2346
02:24:46,530 --> 02:24:49,350
no, I can't take I can't I
cannot accept it. I just can't

2347
02:24:49,350 --> 02:24:52,710
accept that. No, I can't. I I
don't think it's that great.

2348
02:24:53,130 --> 02:24:55,650
Okay, no, thank you very much. I
appreciate it. Hold

2349
02:24:55,650 --> 02:24:57,390
it in abeyance. You get a second
place you know

2350
02:24:57,390 --> 02:24:59,820
after you after you like compare
him to Glenn Beck. You know,

2351
02:24:59,820 --> 02:25:01,380
that's still kind of smarts a
little bit

2352
02:25:03,149 --> 02:25:08,279
more thing, but you won't be so
sensitive after Mickey shows up,

2353
02:25:08,729 --> 02:25:10,229
slaps you around. Yeah,

2354
02:25:10,919 --> 02:25:16,919
this is this is so unnecessary
and so stupid and so

2355
02:25:17,219 --> 02:25:22,199
counterproductive. It really is.
Now you just got to question the

2356
02:25:22,199 --> 02:25:22,919
motives.

2357
02:25:23,249 --> 02:25:26,189
No, I'm a totally agree with you
on this that there's no this guy

2358
02:25:26,189 --> 02:25:29,969
has got some motives behind this
sort of ranting because it makes

2359
02:25:29,999 --> 02:25:35,009
everybody including us look like
whoa, not a conspiracy jerks.

2360
02:25:35,249 --> 02:25:35,879
And yeah,

2361
02:25:35,880 --> 02:25:38,760
here's what's here's what's
really important to understand

2362
02:25:39,210 --> 02:25:46,590
his he is so 1970 with his FEMA
camps, and what else that he was

2363
02:25:46,590 --> 02:25:50,550
a Yellin about. They're coming
to take you away he

2364
02:25:50,910 --> 02:25:54,120
has, they're gonna disappear,
disappear and people.

2365
02:25:54,360 --> 02:25:59,010
Okay, so here's what you need to
understand. It is. It is so much

2366
02:25:59,010 --> 02:26:04,560
more subtle, but so much more
worse than that. It is so beyond

2367
02:26:04,560 --> 02:26:08,190
that no one's coming to take you
away to a FEMA camp.

2368
02:26:08,280 --> 02:26:11,040
No, I think you you having those
kids clips?

2369
02:26:11,100 --> 02:26:13,650
Yes. This is this is the
subtlety of it. This is

2370
02:26:13,650 --> 02:26:16,920
what the kids Oh, that's Did you
free press. That's not

2371
02:26:16,920 --> 02:26:19,140
important. We don't need that.
Yes,

2372
02:26:19,350 --> 02:26:22,710
this is this is the real
problem. This is really where

2373
02:26:22,710 --> 02:26:25,710
it's going. This is what you
have to protest. This is if you

2374
02:26:25,710 --> 02:26:30,210
really want to do something, do
this with your own family, do

2375
02:26:30,210 --> 02:26:33,330
this in your own environment, do
this with your own friends. And

2376
02:26:33,330 --> 02:26:36,330
you got to be eat because now
it's gotten that much harder.

2377
02:26:36,420 --> 02:26:39,450
You can't just say, well, this
is nuts. You know, we're, we're

2378
02:26:39,450 --> 02:26:42,690
teaching our kids to cower in
the corner. We're teaching

2379
02:26:42,690 --> 02:26:47,040
people to what was the term
again, shelter in place, we all

2380
02:26:47,040 --> 02:26:51,480
have to balance out your
security for your freedom, this

2381
02:26:51,480 --> 02:26:54,000
is the thing you need to fight
that that the only thing that he

2382
02:26:54,000 --> 02:26:57,390
has right is it and I wish they
didn't miss that is the whole

2383
02:26:57,450 --> 02:27:02,340
idea of an information war. That
is that is the truth. And is so

2384
02:27:02,340 --> 02:27:06,540
much more damaging. So and but
if they want to kill you, it is

2385
02:27:06,540 --> 02:27:09,600
not a problem. We just released
one of the viruses, there's tons

2386
02:27:09,600 --> 02:27:13,920
of ways to do it. This is not to
come and take you away this new

2387
02:27:13,920 --> 02:27:16,650
one, it's annoying, they're not
going to take you away. It's

2388
02:27:16,650 --> 02:27:20,160
annoying to have to stack bodies
anywhere or put them in camps

2389
02:27:20,160 --> 02:27:23,280
and take care of them. They
don't want that. That's too much

2390
02:27:23,280 --> 02:27:26,640
work too much work that re
educating your children. You're

2391
02:27:26,640 --> 02:27:30,630
no longer important. You and I
John, I think we have no stake

2392
02:27:30,630 --> 02:27:33,840
in the outcome anymore, quite
honestly, which I think is why

2393
02:27:33,840 --> 02:27:36,510
we are so free, which isn't
great. I

2394
02:27:36,510 --> 02:27:40,290
think we'd have zero stake in
the outcome. Yeah, we're just I

2395
02:27:40,290 --> 02:27:46,500
actually even think, you know,
my kids have maybe J might have

2396
02:27:46,500 --> 02:27:49,980
some, I think this is a long
term process. Yeah, probably

2397
02:27:49,980 --> 02:27:52,500
take one more generation, and
then you just have the whole

2398
02:27:52,500 --> 02:27:54,780
public could be gone, you know,
that essentially, we lose the

2399
02:27:54,780 --> 02:27:59,370
Republic, to the one to one
world order or whatever, or

2400
02:27:59,370 --> 02:27:59,820
whatever that

2401
02:27:59,820 --> 02:28:01,710
whatever the thing was that we'd
probably be running.

2402
02:28:01,710 --> 02:28:05,340
I'm not saying that, you know,
we would be running it. The

2403
02:28:05,340 --> 02:28:08,310
Americans, but it's like there's
the public could just be left

2404
02:28:08,310 --> 02:28:08,910
behind.

2405
02:28:09,119 --> 02:28:13,829
But it is truly only a matter of
you changing your own attitude

2406
02:28:13,829 --> 02:28:17,879
and behavior. That's all it is.
When Miss Mickey says this is

2407
02:28:17,879 --> 02:28:21,179
great, and people are gonna wake
up. Yeah, I have to say I'm

2408
02:28:21,179 --> 02:28:24,989
cautiously a little optimistic.
But you really have to, we got

2409
02:28:24,989 --> 02:28:28,589
to work at so much more. And you
need to do very simple things.

2410
02:28:29,399 --> 02:28:34,679
Like saying, don't install Flash
or the new Adobe, whatever. But

2411
02:28:34,679 --> 02:28:39,059
also, Hey, did you know that
that the first and second, third

2412
02:28:39,059 --> 02:28:41,579
and fourth amendment that
they're not rights, but that

2413
02:28:41,579 --> 02:28:44,339
they are actually rights you
already have and they and this

2414
02:28:44,339 --> 02:28:47,159
is stuff that government can do
to your existing rights? These

2415
02:28:47,159 --> 02:28:50,399
are very minimal things. But
when people see that they go,

2416
02:28:50,399 --> 02:28:52,289
Huh, they don't even know this?

2417
02:28:53,460 --> 02:28:57,300
No, I know that one little fact,
would you like to pound which I

2418
02:28:57,300 --> 02:29:01,590
think you should, because I
never do it is really important

2419
02:29:01,590 --> 02:29:04,230
to for people to realize that
the Constitution was to keep the

2420
02:29:04,230 --> 02:29:08,340
government from doing things not
to give them abilities to do

2421
02:29:08,340 --> 02:29:08,730
things

2422
02:29:08,759 --> 02:29:11,819
and attacks. And the President
who keeps saying his first

2423
02:29:11,819 --> 02:29:16,289
responsibility is to protect the
American people is not true.

2424
02:29:16,589 --> 02:29:21,299
That is not his responsibility.
You can look in Article Two. And

2425
02:29:21,299 --> 02:29:26,879
I picked it up just the other
day. It is not true. It's just

2426
02:29:26,879 --> 02:29:29,369
not he's supposed to do
meetings. He's supposed to

2427
02:29:29,399 --> 02:29:32,849
nominate people. And he is the
commander in chief, which does

2428
02:29:32,849 --> 02:29:37,199
not mean he gets to declare war
does not mean he gets to do any

2429
02:29:37,199 --> 02:29:39,689
of that. He gets to have more
meetings and he gets to give

2430
02:29:39,689 --> 02:29:43,079
some advice and take some
advice. He does have a

2431
02:29:43,079 --> 02:29:47,129
responsibility towards Congress
to suggest he is in fact the

2432
02:29:47,129 --> 02:29:51,479
President is supposed to by
article to petition the

2433
02:29:51,479 --> 02:29:54,749
government on behalf of the
people. That is one of the

2434
02:29:54,749 --> 02:29:57,299
President's most important job.
He's supposed to listen to the

2435
02:29:57,299 --> 02:30:01,379
people and then go okay people I
got you Papa, Papa Papa, and he

2436
02:30:01,379 --> 02:30:04,199
supposed to go to Congress and
say, hey Congress, here's what

2437
02:30:04,199 --> 02:30:08,399
the people want. Instead, he's
become this elaborate pitchman

2438
02:30:09,119 --> 02:30:13,649
to pitch, whatever the agenda is
on the inside and this

2439
02:30:13,649 --> 02:30:18,899
particular President, I have to
say, I feel very, very sorry.

2440
02:30:19,559 --> 02:30:23,429
Because I thought for the
longest time, up until this

2441
02:30:23,429 --> 02:30:28,469
week, I thought he was really
part of part of the evil empire.

2442
02:30:29,129 --> 02:30:34,319
And now I find out he's just an
actor, really just an actor. And

2443
02:30:34,319 --> 02:30:38,789
he's afraid he's afraid for his
job, he's afraid for his life.

2444
02:30:39,959 --> 02:30:42,809
Because he doesn't want to wind
up like Martin Luther King, he's

2445
02:30:42,809 --> 02:30:45,359
not going to fight against this
stuff. He's not going to fight

2446
02:30:45,359 --> 02:30:49,109
for anybody. He's going to shut
up, read his lines, don't bump

2447
02:30:49,109 --> 02:30:52,679
into the furniture, don't make
waves. Because he doesn't want

2448
02:30:52,679 --> 02:30:56,609
to die, the only thing he might
do, and I'm only repeating what

2449
02:30:56,609 --> 02:30:59,519
we've heard on the show, this is
not something I'm not I don't

2450
02:30:59,519 --> 02:31:02,729
want to be taken the wrong way.
The only thing he might do is he

2451
02:31:02,729 --> 02:31:07,229
might punch out early to screw
this. He's talked about it. He

2452
02:31:07,229 --> 02:31:11,549
said, Michelle would take 100
million that go. He says today

2453
02:31:11,549 --> 02:31:13,919
he says, Well, you know, I'll be
gone sometime in the next three

2454
02:31:13,919 --> 02:31:17,669
and a half years might be sooner
rather than later. Don't waste

2455
02:31:17,669 --> 02:31:20,609
your time impeaching this guy,
your problem is much, much

2456
02:31:20,609 --> 02:31:23,609
bigger. Much bigger. You gotta
get every single one of these

2457
02:31:23,609 --> 02:31:26,909
douchebags out of Congress and
Senate just every single one of

2458
02:31:26,909 --> 02:31:29,429
them has got you gotta have a
complete reboot. And we have no

2459
02:31:29,429 --> 02:31:31,709
stake in that that's gonna take
decades and is

2460
02:31:31,710 --> 02:31:34,080
no way that anyone would do it.
Because the way this rigged?

2461
02:31:34,770 --> 02:31:35,460
Yeah,

2462
02:31:35,609 --> 02:31:38,249
because only Congress can
impeach people in Congress. I

2463
02:31:38,249 --> 02:31:40,259
think it's completely I looked
this up

2464
02:31:40,290 --> 02:31:43,680
that they've gerrymandered their
way into permanent jobs. John

2465
02:31:43,680 --> 02:31:47,070
Boehner, for example, is a known
fact that you could he could be

2466
02:31:47,070 --> 02:31:50,670
a child molester and he would
not get voted out of that spot

2467
02:31:50,670 --> 02:31:53,610
because they have they've
gerrymandered his his area and

2468
02:31:53,610 --> 02:31:56,970
we're in it doesn't make any
sense to two people where you

2469
02:31:56,970 --> 02:32:00,900
have the state these districts
representative districts and you

2470
02:32:00,900 --> 02:32:04,590
have the district that has a
it's like it's a little Gob up

2471
02:32:04,590 --> 02:32:08,250
here and as long thin line they
may go down 100 miles and over

2472
02:32:08,250 --> 02:32:11,670
to the left was another Gob
right yeah this person

2473
02:32:11,670 --> 02:32:15,090
represents this this this crazy
district that we're doing this

2474
02:32:15,090 --> 02:32:15,210
in

2475
02:32:15,210 --> 02:32:18,390
Texas now to it's it's
incredible the redistricting is

2476
02:32:18,390 --> 02:32:18,960
nuts.

2477
02:32:19,080 --> 02:32:21,360
Yeah, they read districts so
Well, I'll tell you what, I'll

2478
02:32:21,360 --> 02:32:24,210
do a deal with a you can have
this, this and this, and they'll

2479
02:32:24,240 --> 02:32:27,600
vote Democrat no matter what.
And but you got to give me this,

2480
02:32:27,600 --> 02:32:30,600
this and this because this is
all Republican territory. And

2481
02:32:30,600 --> 02:32:34,140
then I know I've got a job for
life. That's what they've done.

2482
02:32:35,160 --> 02:32:40,350
I would recommend that in your
just in your own little circle

2483
02:32:40,350 --> 02:32:43,560
of influence, your own little
sphere of influence is where you

2484
02:32:43,560 --> 02:32:47,460
can make these changes and live
a happy life AI for all the

2485
02:32:47,460 --> 02:32:48,060
crowd worry

2486
02:32:48,060 --> 02:32:49,320
about buying seeds.

2487
02:32:50,850 --> 02:32:53,100
Now this is not that's not going
to help you and make you

2488
02:32:53,100 --> 02:32:57,390
happier, more storable food or
water filled water filter. I'm

2489
02:32:57,390 --> 02:33:01,200
not again, I'm not against any
of that, but I am the clouds

2490
02:33:01,200 --> 02:33:03,690
like this, this just this
useless. You can

2491
02:33:03,690 --> 02:33:07,680
run some really crappy vodka
through those water filters. And

2492
02:33:07,680 --> 02:33:08,400
it actually improves

2493
02:33:08,430 --> 02:33:14,430
really, I so I have not turned
on the television. Since Ms.

2494
02:33:14,430 --> 02:33:20,880
Mickey left. I have not. And not
even CNN or anything. I've only

2495
02:33:20,880 --> 02:33:24,930
been watching online. That was
kind of my test. And I think

2496
02:33:24,930 --> 02:33:27,060
that it's been very successful.
I don't think the show has

2497
02:33:27,060 --> 02:33:31,530
suffered whatsoever. And I feel
fantastic. I feel really really

2498
02:33:31,530 --> 02:33:35,550
good. I've done I've been very
productive and done a lot of fun

2499
02:33:35,550 --> 02:33:37,680
things. I'm a little
disappointed. That is one thing

2500
02:33:37,680 --> 02:33:42,510
that's a real bummer. real
bummer. You know, because I'm so

2501
02:33:42,510 --> 02:33:47,610
excited about ham radio. And you
know, I'm I'm really I got some

2502
02:33:47,610 --> 02:33:52,650
ideas about Morse code and which
has been around for 170 years

2503
02:33:52,650 --> 02:33:57,660
and it's still valid and
relative today. And I find out

2504
02:33:57,660 --> 02:34:04,230
the FBI has put out a tender,
tender where they are requesting

2505
02:34:05,010 --> 02:34:09,900
to purchase something they have
to do this. You know, so RFP,

2506
02:34:10,260 --> 02:34:12,600
it's an RFP request for person.
Yeah.

2507
02:34:13,020 --> 02:34:16,440
So what are they? So there's
this document and it's the

2508
02:34:16,440 --> 02:34:23,520
required says the equipment that
they want Icom 9500 Ah 810 AC VX

2509
02:34:23,550 --> 02:34:32,070
eight DDR with Mars mod FC 40
antenna Icom IC 9100 Kenwood, th

2510
02:34:32,070 --> 02:34:38,700
D 72. A Kenwood tm 710. Two
meter 70 centimeter Icom IC R

2511
02:34:38,700 --> 02:34:41,700
two. I mean, it goes on and on.
They are essentially building an

2512
02:34:41,700 --> 02:34:45,690
entire lab because they heard
that I was like making Morse

2513
02:34:45,690 --> 02:34:52,380
code cool again. Hey, there's a
good way that curry is all over

2514
02:34:52,380 --> 02:34:56,760
this. We got to stop that guy.
We got to listen in on what he's

2515
02:34:56,760 --> 02:34:57,270
doing.

2516
02:34:59,730 --> 02:35:02,520
So One of the dads just before
we go, I got one last thing

2517
02:35:02,580 --> 02:35:04,890
actually have a couple extra I
can put this off, they'll put it

2518
02:35:04,890 --> 02:35:06,840
off till Thursday to answer your
question.

2519
02:35:06,840 --> 02:35:12,900
Oh, are you doing a tweet today?
Yes. Oh have polluted you

2520
02:35:12,900 --> 02:35:21,240
perfect. Yeah they're gonna it's
all going to be about prison,

2521
02:35:21,510 --> 02:35:23,850
and you're gonna not be able to,
you're not gonna be able to show

2522
02:35:23,850 --> 02:35:24,240
no, I'm

2523
02:35:24,240 --> 02:35:26,790
gonna tell them the same story,
I've got to call them I got the

2524
02:35:26,790 --> 02:35:28,680
whole thing. I'm going to not
change it much. And

2525
02:35:28,680 --> 02:35:30,420
you're not going to mention
Adobe at all.

2526
02:35:31,440 --> 02:35:34,680
I couldn't do that you had the
oldest stuff. I it's not in my

2527
02:35:34,680 --> 02:35:38,730
head. Okay. But all right, I do
have I do have a little thing we

2528
02:35:38,730 --> 02:35:41,160
play in this show where you can
play it now. Or you can play it,

2529
02:35:41,160 --> 02:35:46,410
never play it. But I decided I'd
done this before. John Kerry

2530
02:35:46,410 --> 02:35:50,610
gave a long speech. It was like
an hour. And so I started

2531
02:35:50,610 --> 02:35:53,520
skipping through it. And I
realized that you can skip

2532
02:35:53,520 --> 02:35:57,840
through a John Kerry speech in
Panama to miss anything. And you

2533
02:35:57,840 --> 02:36:01,950
realize that all he does is
throw in cliche after the idea.

2534
02:36:03,030 --> 02:36:06,720
He's droning on a click, click,
click, click, click, click and

2535
02:36:06,720 --> 02:36:11,400
it's just like, dumb, useless
speaker this guy, you're useless

2536
02:36:11,430 --> 02:36:14,910
eaters as a useless speaker.
He's terrible.

2537
02:36:15,120 --> 02:36:16,680
Well, so I play this.

2538
02:36:17,310 --> 02:36:20,310
Once you play for as long as you
can stand it okay,

2539
02:36:20,490 --> 02:36:24,990
for for human rights. And let me
point out this is John Kerry,

2540
02:36:25,020 --> 02:36:29,910
Secretary of State who signs his
name, John F. Kerry. So you all

2541
02:36:29,910 --> 02:36:33,570
kind of get the inference that
he's the new JFK. He's the

2542
02:36:33,570 --> 02:36:35,340
second coming of Camelot.

2543
02:36:35,910 --> 02:36:41,850
Community, as many of you might
know. And even if it's just for

2544
02:36:41,850 --> 02:36:45,930
short while trying to act as
possibility in a time of

2545
02:36:45,930 --> 02:36:51,000
promise, tremendously to each
and every one of you. Oh, the

2546
02:36:51,000 --> 02:36:56,370
deep personal connection that I
divers, and veterans tend to sit

2547
02:36:56,370 --> 02:37:00,420
at that ceremony. But 1886,
almost 30 years ago, this at the

2548
02:37:00,420 --> 02:37:03,840
top of the mountain across the
Dead Sea. We had a big debate.

2549
02:37:04,440 --> 02:37:07,410
Well, we just call them cliche
carry from now on cliche,

2550
02:37:07,410 --> 02:37:08,880
cliche, it's good man.

2551
02:37:08,880 --> 02:37:12,780
It's like it when he speaks. He
couldn't save in 1986. It has to

2552
02:37:12,780 --> 02:37:17,070
be in 1986, almost 30 years ago.
And what is it? He takes it even

2553
02:37:17,070 --> 02:37:21,060
further by the Gregorian
calendar? I mean, he can't just

2554
02:37:21,060 --> 02:37:23,340
get tell you what his point is.
Yes, it just

2555
02:37:23,370 --> 02:37:27,420
yeah, in 1936, in the year of
our Lord almost 30 years ago,

2556
02:37:27,420 --> 02:37:28,860
which is three decades

2557
02:37:30,060 --> 02:37:32,490
cliche anymore, you get the
idea.

2558
02:37:32,519 --> 02:37:37,349
I would like to need to do two
plugs here. Two plugs. One is

2559
02:37:37,409 --> 02:37:44,939
one of our relatively new
listeners, James Prohaska, has

2560
02:37:44,999 --> 02:37:49,619
released a self published a book
on Amazon. It's interesting

2561
02:37:49,619 --> 02:37:52,799
book, so it's kind of it's for
the book club, Andrew Jackson

2562
02:37:52,799 --> 02:37:57,269
and the vampires, an alternative
historical fiction screenplay.

2563
02:37:57,779 --> 02:38:00,449
And it's a screenplay. It's a
script. It's printed like a

2564
02:38:00,449 --> 02:38:03,749
script that reads like a script.
And it I say, it's pretty funny.

2565
02:38:04,139 --> 02:38:07,139
And it's kind of one of these
things. It's just short book,

2566
02:38:07,409 --> 02:38:13,739
one of these things that you
read and you go Ah, so that and

2567
02:38:14,459 --> 02:38:20,819
then completely. I wanted to do
you remember Kevin the blade?

2568
02:38:21,509 --> 02:38:24,869
Kevin the blade? Yeah, Kevin the
blade. He was the the Canadian

2569
02:38:24,869 --> 02:38:30,449
kid who listened to no agenda.
And I was looking for someone to

2570
02:38:30,449 --> 02:38:33,779
help me edit the big app show
when I was still doing that.

2571
02:38:33,779 --> 02:38:38,129
Remember how that's tied back?
Back in the LA days. So Kevin,

2572
02:38:38,129 --> 02:38:42,059
the blade and he, he basically
like, gave up and went back to

2573
02:38:42,059 --> 02:38:45,929
Canadia with his girlfriend and
he's been tootling around, but

2574
02:38:45,929 --> 02:38:48,779
he has come up with a I've
always used the intern

2575
02:38:48,779 --> 02:38:51,689
essentially, I paid him whatever
I could, but he really worked

2576
02:38:51,689 --> 02:38:56,069
for basically for no money. And
so I want to thank him by giving

2577
02:38:56,069 --> 02:38:59,789
him a plug for his new project,
which I think is going to be a

2578
02:38:59,789 --> 02:39:03,689
massive hit. And he's doing and
if it's a Kickstarter or an

2579
02:39:03,689 --> 02:39:07,319
Indiegogo or something anyway,
it's called come giggle with me.

2580
02:39:07,769 --> 02:39:14,009
Come giggle with me.com. And
it's a reality cooking show with

2581
02:39:14,009 --> 02:39:16,649
people who are stoned on
marijuana.

2582
02:39:18,660 --> 02:39:22,290
Let's find you know, I've always
wanted to do a talk show. Really

2583
02:39:22,290 --> 02:39:26,520
similar to this. It was, but it
was different. It My idea is

2584
02:39:26,520 --> 02:39:29,340
this and I still think it's
valid. The theme of the talk

2585
02:39:29,340 --> 02:39:31,050
show is legally drunk.

2586
02:39:31,290 --> 02:39:34,440
Okay, yeah, that sounds that
sounds good. And you have to and

2587
02:39:34,440 --> 02:39:36,720
you have to have a breathalyzer
right to make sure you're

2588
02:39:36,720 --> 02:39:39,240
legally breathalyzer and then
the announcer comes over and

2589
02:39:39,240 --> 02:39:42,450
their big thing slams on the
screen. legally drunk.

2590
02:39:42,480 --> 02:39:47,130
Okay, you're good to go. And
then one then you get on the

2591
02:39:47,130 --> 02:39:47,700
talk show.

2592
02:39:48,000 --> 02:39:50,850
Then you go out. You're on the
talk show. I'd be the host. I

2593
02:39:50,850 --> 02:39:55,140
would be sober. Yeah. And you
just get people yakking drunk

2594
02:39:55,350 --> 02:39:59,490
because they'll say all kinds of
crazy things. Great show

2595
02:39:59,490 --> 02:40:00,690
somebody I like it.

2596
02:40:00,750 --> 02:40:04,620
I like it well, so in this case,
five stoners are pitted against

2597
02:40:04,620 --> 02:40:07,320
each other to see who can cook
the best munchies and throw the

2598
02:40:07,320 --> 02:40:08,130
best party.

2599
02:40:08,610 --> 02:40:09,810
Oh, this is similar.

2600
02:40:09,840 --> 02:40:14,100
Yeah, not legally drunk is good.
How about legally baked? I think

2601
02:40:14,100 --> 02:40:15,870
it's funny when people are
stoned because when people are

2602
02:40:15,870 --> 02:40:17,610
drunk can also get aggressive
and

2603
02:40:18,060 --> 02:40:20,010
but that's fine, too. That's
good television.

2604
02:40:20,040 --> 02:40:23,340
It's great television. I would
produce this with you. Yeah. And

2605
02:40:23,340 --> 02:40:29,490
here's your host of legally
legally baked. Who would be your

2606
02:40:29,490 --> 02:40:30,270
first guest?

2607
02:40:30,750 --> 02:40:34,080
I think first you got to find
people that are that like to

2608
02:40:34,080 --> 02:40:35,070
drink. I think that's

2609
02:40:35,789 --> 02:40:39,029
what I can do legally. Undo it.
I can bake for your show to be a

2610
02:40:39,029 --> 02:40:39,509
guest.

2611
02:40:39,600 --> 02:40:42,720
Well, I baked to me implies
marijuana or something like

2612
02:40:42,720 --> 02:40:43,200
yeah, no, I

2613
02:40:43,200 --> 02:40:44,760
don't want to do legally drunk.
I don't like drunk.

2614
02:40:44,789 --> 02:40:48,569
I know. No, I'm not going to do
a big show, too. It's too it's

2615
02:40:48,569 --> 02:40:51,149
too slow moving. You wouldn't
have to be nobody would ever be

2616
02:40:51,149 --> 02:40:54,449
aggressive and they wouldn't
start yelling or falling off

2617
02:40:54,449 --> 02:40:58,079
that shared. Opportunity. Yeah,
you're

2618
02:40:58,080 --> 02:40:59,790
right. You're right. You're
right. What am I thinking?

2619
02:41:04,110 --> 02:41:07,920
Fantastic. Oh, hold on. We
actually have a little jingle

2620
02:41:07,920 --> 02:41:10,500
for that time to drink up. There
you go. That would be your

2621
02:41:10,500 --> 02:41:16,170
opening. That would be the
opening up. Okay, well, quite a

2622
02:41:16,170 --> 02:41:19,980
show. I would say. You have to.
You have to get moving. And you

2623
02:41:19,980 --> 02:41:24,330
got to go on up there right. To
the oops, sorry. Try that again.

2624
02:41:25,560 --> 02:41:31,560
Yeah, that was good. And I shall
be putting the finishing touches

2625
02:41:31,590 --> 02:41:36,300
on cleaning up the house here.
Or the the lady of the manor or

2626
02:41:36,300 --> 02:41:42,030
she returns leaving a mess.
Yeah, right. That's, that's a

2627
02:41:42,030 --> 02:41:44,280
good that's some great advice
there. John. You already

2628
02:41:44,280 --> 02:41:44,850
married?

2629
02:41:46,260 --> 02:41:52,410
The show off. Besides that, when
usually when guys clean up the

2630
02:41:52,410 --> 02:41:57,750
house, and the woman comes home
after some time. Wow, what did

2631
02:41:57,750 --> 02:42:00,210
you do? The house is a mess. You
can't win.

2632
02:42:01,590 --> 02:42:07,380
That's true. That's true. You
can't read? Absolutely. Thank

2633
02:42:07,380 --> 02:42:09,210
you very much for tuning into
the best podcast in the

2634
02:42:09,210 --> 02:42:15,750
universe, where we bring you our
our analysis of worldly events

2635
02:42:15,750 --> 02:42:20,880
and such twice a week, Thursdays
and Sundays here. And of course,

2636
02:42:20,880 --> 02:42:23,820
we'll be back on Thursday to
bring you another JAM PACKED

2637
02:42:23,820 --> 02:42:27,060
episode. Who knows what will
happen if you're a celebrity.

2638
02:42:27,090 --> 02:42:30,270
I'd be careful. Someone's gonna
die between now and Thursday to

2639
02:42:30,420 --> 02:42:35,520
change the news cycle. I'm
looking at you Mandela coming to

2640
02:42:35,520 --> 02:42:38,910
you from Traverse highs hideout
in Austin, Texas in the morning

2641
02:42:38,910 --> 02:42:40,530
everybody. My name is Adam curry

2642
02:42:40,590 --> 02:42:43,560
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where it's very windy for some

2643
02:42:43,560 --> 02:42:46,110
unknown reason. I'm John C.
Dvorak. We

2644
02:42:46,110 --> 02:42:49,170
will talk to you again on
Thursday right here on no

2645
02:42:49,500 --> 02:42:50,370
agenda.

2646
02:42:51,480 --> 02:42:53,460
Bollocks This is a fact.

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