1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,450 you'd like to read. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,320 It's Thursday, July 11 2013. Time for your gizmo nation media 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,750 assassination episode five to nine air. 4 00:00:10,140 --> 00:00:12,090 This is no agenda 5 00:00:13,349 --> 00:00:17,039 not sponsored by Soros here at the Travis heights hideout in 6 00:00:17,039 --> 00:00:19,469 Austin, Texas capitol in the Darkstar. State in the morning, 7 00:00:19,469 --> 00:00:21,239 everybody. I'm Adam curry 8 00:00:21,359 --> 00:00:24,659 and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's a little earlier than 9 00:00:24,659 --> 00:00:28,469 usual. I'm John C. Dvorak. Buzzkill. 10 00:00:31,590 --> 00:00:36,570 Right on no big, big problems. But we're early and everything 11 00:00:36,570 --> 00:00:38,670 falls apart the whole infrastructure, the entire 12 00:00:38,670 --> 00:00:45,480 network is attention. I'm not in charge of all that. 13 00:00:45,990 --> 00:00:47,460 So I think to the show, 14 00:00:47,490 --> 00:00:50,910 no, I think we're so I don't believe we're streaming live. 15 00:00:50,910 --> 00:00:53,430 But I would say the majority of people here the show on the 16 00:00:53,430 --> 00:00:59,850 podcast anyway. So yeah. So what are we doing? Why are we early? 17 00:00:59,850 --> 00:01:01,560 We're an hour earlier than normal. What's going on? I 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,160 get missed by a bus. My daughter's birthday. Oh, 19 00:01:06,150 --> 00:01:09,420 that's right. How old is she? She Wait, let me guess fun. She 20 00:01:09,420 --> 00:01:10,500 19 or 20? 21 00:01:10,710 --> 00:01:16,620 Ah, you hit it? Both 19 or 20 2019? 22 00:01:17,070 --> 00:01:19,920 Wow. Ah, how fast that goes, John. 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,450 Yeah, yep. Now what? 24 00:01:24,780 --> 00:01:28,380 I don't know. Don't worry doesn't for me. It hasn't ended. 25 00:01:28,500 --> 00:01:36,600 My kids gonna be 23 the end of August. And she doesn't end. Are 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,130 you charging these kids rent yet? 27 00:01:38,220 --> 00:01:45,600 She's getting pretty old. Oh, Christina. Thanks. So now I 28 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,070 don't charge the kids rent. What do you think is older? paying 29 00:01:50,070 --> 00:01:51,990 rent or you're getting now? Yeah, 30 00:01:52,020 --> 00:01:54,630 that's what my parents did. And it took me three weeks. 31 00:01:56,700 --> 00:01:59,460 Look, look at your parents. Well, I mean, your dad just 32 00:01:59,490 --> 00:02:02,130 sitting by himself. He probably would like to have you hanging 33 00:02:02,130 --> 00:02:03,120 around the house a little bit. 34 00:02:03,270 --> 00:02:05,910 I'm not so sure. But he's not doing too well. Actually. Yes. 35 00:02:05,910 --> 00:02:07,020 No. Yes. Yes. 36 00:02:07,050 --> 00:02:09,720 That's been the case since we started the show. Nope. 37 00:02:11,070 --> 00:02:13,500 True. Yeah. No, that's true. But now he's really not doing so 38 00:02:13,500 --> 00:02:16,380 well. But you go say hi to him. I'm gonna go say hi to him. 39 00:02:16,380 --> 00:02:17,490 We're leaving. 40 00:02:18,570 --> 00:02:20,220 I'm gonna come on party with you go. 41 00:02:20,220 --> 00:02:21,720 I'm not coming to party with us. 42 00:02:23,850 --> 00:02:26,610 Now, getting tickets now, 43 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:29,070 let me say Shall I tell you what our schedule is? everyone kind 44 00:02:29,070 --> 00:02:32,640 of knows. I think you should. So you can target me appropriately. 45 00:02:32,730 --> 00:02:35,100 Right. We should also mention Yeah, we got a couple issues 46 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:37,230 with a couple of missed missing shows. Well, well, not 47 00:02:37,230 --> 00:02:39,360 really missing shows because we're going to fill them up with 48 00:02:39,390 --> 00:02:42,300 with some outstanding content. There's no doubt about it. But 49 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:46,500 we've decided to take two shows off this year, during the 50 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:47,250 summer, too. 51 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,740 And wait a minute. Let's stop stop for a second. I want to 52 00:02:49,770 --> 00:02:53,130 point out to everybody. Oh, no. I want to point out to everybody 53 00:02:53,700 --> 00:02:57,420 that we've been doing this show for close to six years. Our six 54 00:02:57,420 --> 00:03:01,260 year anniversary is in October coming up. And we've never taken 55 00:03:01,260 --> 00:03:06,900 one show off. We did a clip show for Christmas a couple years ago 56 00:03:06,929 --> 00:03:09,749 and and when I got married, everyone gave me a show off. 57 00:03:11,369 --> 00:03:14,939 Remember that? Yeah. When would make it it was almost a year ago 58 00:03:14,939 --> 00:03:18,629 and making America is that when we did 200.5 Or three? I think 59 00:03:18,629 --> 00:03:22,109 that's when we did 300 I don't I don't remember. I don't know how 60 00:03:22,109 --> 00:03:24,869 many episodes but we actually did a show. No, no, we still 61 00:03:24,869 --> 00:03:27,659 have a show. Yeah, of course. And it's not like we're gonna go 62 00:03:27,659 --> 00:03:32,279 dark. Right? Oh, didn't we? Didn't we decide to put I'm 63 00:03:32,279 --> 00:03:32,429 gonna 64 00:03:33,900 --> 00:03:37,290 go dark, shows off the air. I can't go dark. 65 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,910 So Friday afternoon. So we have Thursday. We have the show next 66 00:03:41,910 --> 00:03:46,950 week. Then Friday, Ms. McKee and I haul off to Amsterdam. Then on 67 00:03:46,950 --> 00:03:50,040 Sunday, I do the show from Amsterdam using the new ultimate 68 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,280 podcast device, which would be a good field test. Yeah. So I'm, 69 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,950 I've been on it for the past two shows. And I'm still kind of 70 00:03:55,950 --> 00:04:00,060 working on all the units that the same as a field not the same 71 00:04:00,060 --> 00:04:03,150 as a field test. Exactly. Then, 72 00:04:03,870 --> 00:04:07,530 on how many tubes are in this thing? Zero. Okay, 73 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,210 it's no. But we are replicating to design that's for sure. With 74 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,500 the with dual rail power AC, it has an AC power adapter. 75 00:04:17,430 --> 00:04:18,630 It will do 220 76 00:04:19,529 --> 00:04:21,899 Yeah, of course it'll do 220 with a separate adapter. You 77 00:04:21,899 --> 00:04:25,319 can't This is why all these companies do DC adapters because 78 00:04:25,319 --> 00:04:28,889 they're cheap. But I've learned a lot you wind up doing a lot of 79 00:04:28,919 --> 00:04:32,669 balancing and biasing internally if you use DC power instead of 80 00:04:32,669 --> 00:04:35,189 having your own power on boards, you've got dual rail. I mean, 81 00:04:35,189 --> 00:04:38,219 the whole thing is, it's high end. It's just it's gonna be 82 00:04:38,219 --> 00:04:41,249 great. Once it's done, which will be maybe maybe sometime 83 00:04:41,249 --> 00:04:42,329 near Christmas, who knows? 84 00:04:42,450 --> 00:04:44,310 What do you think it would sell for? Oh, it's 85 00:04:44,310 --> 00:04:48,030 gonna have to be $400 it can't do it for any less 86 00:04:48,060 --> 00:04:50,310 399 99 No, no, I 87 00:04:50,310 --> 00:04:54,210 think it's going to be in fact I would even say it has to be 88 00:04:54,210 --> 00:04:59,640 499 99 but you can do you can replicate the best podcast in 89 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,250 the universe. With this thing I mean, it's set up to do it. 90 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,370 Okay? It's a mixer. It's all your process. If you had to buy 91 00:05:05,370 --> 00:05:08,520 all the elements individually, it would be $1,000. 92 00:05:08,940 --> 00:05:11,760 All right, well, sounds like a deal. Anyways, lightweight and 93 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:12,540 small. Yes. 94 00:05:12,570 --> 00:05:14,700 Oh, yeah. Well wait until you see this module. It's, it's, 95 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:17,130 it's like a cigarette pack. That's how small it is. 96 00:05:18,630 --> 00:05:20,820 So on Monday, the tiny knobs 97 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,360 are very tiny knobs. But for you, we'll make really giant 98 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:29,190 knobs we'll make a special John system. On Monday, we go to the 99 00:05:29,190 --> 00:05:32,520 south of France to my dear friend, Michel, the gangster. 100 00:05:33,630 --> 00:05:37,260 He, he's got a house down there. And in between this is the elite 101 00:05:37,260 --> 00:05:41,400 of the elite, as he listened to the show, oh, he's a huge fan of 102 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,620 the show. He's always he's, he's all over the 103 00:05:44,310 --> 00:05:46,980 donor nomenclature. 104 00:05:47,790 --> 00:05:51,480 Michelle, I think he donates in other ways. If you're looking 105 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,470 for Latour. 106 00:05:54,390 --> 00:05:55,290 I've been looking for. 107 00:05:55,979 --> 00:06:00,599 Yeah, but if you happen to be in the south of France. Right, 108 00:06:00,599 --> 00:06:04,679 exactly. And from there, we're going to drive to Florence to 109 00:06:05,009 --> 00:06:05,909 visit will orange, 110 00:06:05,910 --> 00:06:10,290 are you going to do a meet up? Yeah, we'll do. 111 00:06:12,030 --> 00:06:15,000 I'll do a huge meet up in Florence. I'm sure there's tons 112 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,550 of no agenda listeners in Italy. Right. Think there's two, Willow 113 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:28,470 and Willow. And then after, let me see, I think for three days 114 00:06:28,470 --> 00:06:31,110 in Florence, we're going to Oh, and of course Mickey is going to 115 00:06:31,140 --> 00:06:34,620 mimic he's going to visit our brain professors friend at the 116 00:06:34,620 --> 00:06:37,950 university there, you know, to look at more brains or whatever. 117 00:06:38,970 --> 00:06:40,020 You know how that goes. 118 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,850 I have Nixon's break. 119 00:06:43,290 --> 00:06:47,880 I have headed on ice for a long time. And then we fly back to 120 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:53,460 Amsterdam. Were there for five days. We could we could go to 121 00:06:53,490 --> 00:06:57,300 visit my daughter, of course. And then we fly back. So 122 00:06:57,330 --> 00:06:59,550 actually, when we were back in Amsterdam, then I do another 123 00:06:59,550 --> 00:07:02,130 show. So the only shows that we're not doing on July 25 And 124 00:07:02,130 --> 00:07:06,180 July 28. And then there'll be two to be doing two shows from 125 00:07:06,180 --> 00:07:09,450 Amsterdam. Both field tests with the with a new box. 126 00:07:10,980 --> 00:07:15,300 The 28th may be the Indianapolis NASCAR event. Oh really, I might 127 00:07:15,300 --> 00:07:18,810 just go down to that. To see if anyone can move and get anyone 128 00:07:18,810 --> 00:07:22,470 to we have a contact within the organization not within the 129 00:07:22,470 --> 00:07:25,050 organization. But it's in the publicity world surrounding 130 00:07:25,050 --> 00:07:28,260 NASCAR to use it to get a no agenda sticker on one of these. 131 00:07:28,260 --> 00:07:28,680 Yeah. 132 00:07:29,790 --> 00:07:34,050 I love it. I love it. Let me ask you a question. John. This hit 133 00:07:34,050 --> 00:07:39,330 me this morning as as the news reports started coming out. Why 134 00:07:39,330 --> 00:07:42,000 is it and I'm certainly not going to accept it any longer. 135 00:07:42,180 --> 00:07:46,650 Why is it people accept courtroom sketches the way they 136 00:07:46,650 --> 00:07:52,080 are drawn? The whole concept of okay, we can't have cameras in 137 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,590 the court. For whatever reason, but then we're going to have a 138 00:07:55,590 --> 00:07:58,590 sketch and the sketches always like like an artist 139 00:07:58,590 --> 00:08:01,560 interpretation. There's plenty of people you go to Central 140 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,650 Park, there's guys who can sketch you perfectly. You look 141 00:08:04,650 --> 00:08:08,460 fantastic. Like that's you. They can do a caricature for all I 142 00:08:08,460 --> 00:08:12,300 care. But the courtroom sketches that are being done, it can only 143 00:08:12,300 --> 00:08:15,600 be to hide the fact that there's no court session going on. 144 00:08:16,350 --> 00:08:19,740 There's just nothing. Have you see the reports about this about 145 00:08:19,740 --> 00:08:20,580 tonight? If 146 00:08:21,420 --> 00:08:24,990 you know, yeah, yeah, this stuff is quite interesting. The latest 147 00:08:24,990 --> 00:08:26,280 is that it may not be him. It's 148 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,130 not him. Of course, it's not why else would you not allow cameras 149 00:08:29,130 --> 00:08:29,850 in the courtroom 150 00:08:29,850 --> 00:08:32,190 in this court proceeding? Anderson, he was looking around, 151 00:08:32,340 --> 00:08:36,450 he was sort of he kept touching his face. He was fidgeting. And 152 00:08:36,450 --> 00:08:38,850 he was upset that he was ignoring what was going on. The 153 00:08:38,850 --> 00:08:42,000 judge was speaking to him. He didn't look at her. And then as 154 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,700 the charges read against him, he did stand up. And he said not 155 00:08:44,700 --> 00:08:46,230 guilty to each of those charges. 156 00:08:46,410 --> 00:08:50,220 But hold on a second. He confessed to everything. How can 157 00:08:50,220 --> 00:08:55,170 you now say not guilty? What's going on with that? This makes 158 00:08:55,170 --> 00:08:55,650 no sense. 159 00:08:56,730 --> 00:08:59,700 By the way, that said the guy looking around, I think that is 160 00:08:59,700 --> 00:09:01,620 the same actor who played the redhead. And 161 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,730 that's the same guy exactly in a Russian accent. And what's so 162 00:09:05,730 --> 00:09:08,970 interesting about that is that after court, I ran into a couple 163 00:09:08,970 --> 00:09:11,310 of his wrestling buddies from high school. And they said they 164 00:09:11,310 --> 00:09:14,370 were stunning. They never had a Russian accent when they knew 165 00:09:14,370 --> 00:09:17,520 him. Make him to court because they wanted to see if this was 166 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,180 the same guy. And they just said, you know, it wasn't now. 167 00:09:21,630 --> 00:09:24,960 So here we are. So here we have the actual report saying it's 168 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,350 not the same guy. He speaks with a Russian accent. Never heard 169 00:09:28,350 --> 00:09:32,040 him do that before. Now, here's what's if you look at the broad 170 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,010 scope of things right now, and today, of course, we have some 171 00:09:35,010 --> 00:09:38,910 breaking news happening now in the George Zimmerman trial, 172 00:09:39,150 --> 00:09:43,320 which who gives a crap if you really look at the TOS de 173 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,090 twostage. Let's look at at face value. Here we have a divide and 174 00:09:48,090 --> 00:09:50,580 conquer trial, which is what that is all about, which has 175 00:09:50,580 --> 00:09:54,540 been going on for weeks now. It seems like we Yeah, but really, 176 00:09:55,590 --> 00:09:57,030 CNN has trial itself. 177 00:09:57,030 --> 00:10:00,510 CNN has switched to an all new 24/7 Zimmerman for format I mean 178 00:10:00,510 --> 00:10:03,330 this is now it this is a format you can sell around the world 179 00:10:03,330 --> 00:10:06,840 you know this is the the Zimmerman news format but if you 180 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,160 look okay one guy did yeah huge implications perhaps. But then 181 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:17,550 over here we have the Boston bombing, which it will have long 182 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,710 resounding implications upon our security state the crouch and 183 00:10:22,710 --> 00:10:27,750 cower all the thing you know martial law. Multiple people 184 00:10:27,750 --> 00:10:33,510 killed according to the same CNN 260 people wounded yet we have 185 00:10:33,570 --> 00:10:39,300 no cameras in the courtroom and we only have one or two morons 186 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:43,740 who are so called victims who are being interviewed and this 187 00:10:43,740 --> 00:10:46,830 is the package that was on every single news station the exact 188 00:10:46,830 --> 00:10:48,900 same package I will mind this morning 189 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:51,510 after making his first court appearance since the deadly 190 00:10:51,510 --> 00:10:52,680 attacks in April so 191 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:56,310 Hearthstone I have pleading not guilty to terror charges and he 192 00:10:56,310 --> 00:11:00,300 repeated that not guilty seven times. Meantime, dozens of 193 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:02,490 bombing survivors they came face to face 194 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,160 dozens dozens came through you have to pay attention to the 195 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,360 words dozens came face to face however, we only got two outside 196 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,500 the courtroom who didn't really seem like they could even talk 197 00:11:13,530 --> 00:11:14,910 with this 19 year old accused 198 00:11:14,910 --> 00:11:17,520 terrorist. So people in the courtroom said that he almost 199 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,500 smirked during the hearing. And 200 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:24,030 some people said what is this? This is an important trial and 201 00:11:24,030 --> 00:11:26,850 we can't see it what what determines John when we can or 202 00:11:26,850 --> 00:11:30,000 cannot see something on television when it comes to a 203 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,910 trial? What is this national security? Is there something 204 00:11:32,910 --> 00:11:36,270 going on that we can say this guy right but why? What is the 205 00:11:36,270 --> 00:11:39,570 reasoning? What does the judge what is the judge's reasoning 206 00:11:39,570 --> 00:11:40,080 behind this 207 00:11:40,680 --> 00:11:44,040 consistent play on this everybody every judge has his 208 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,440 own theory they don't want to do it they don't want to turn to a 209 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,560 carnival they have a million excuses. And they just refuse to 210 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:52,590 do it. They do some don't do it. Some do. I don't know. 211 00:11:52,740 --> 00:11:55,350 Well, very was live at the courthouse now in South Boston 212 00:11:55,350 --> 00:11:59,490 with more Nicole that's right Cana these proceedings lasted 213 00:11:59,490 --> 00:12:02,490 only seven minutes but as you can imagine, inside the 214 00:12:02,490 --> 00:12:05,700 courtroom here at the Moakley Courthouse, it was emotionally 215 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:07,560 packed and the victims and their families 216 00:12:07,590 --> 00:12:12,330 emotionally packed. What does that even mean? This is a lie. 217 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,500 I've stayed away from all this for a long time. This report 218 00:12:16,500 --> 00:12:20,160 this woman was not in the courtroom. There I don't I do 219 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,830 not know anyone who was actually there acceptable you'll hear the 220 00:12:22,830 --> 00:12:24,720 two boneheads she gets to the end of this report I 221 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,570 spoke with say they didn't expect much more from the 222 00:12:27,570 --> 00:12:32,700 alleged suspect. Appearing in an orange jumpsuit his hair does 223 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:33,600 shoveled but his 224 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:40,590 pillow his hair does shoveled I think is disheveled. Is it not 225 00:12:40,620 --> 00:12:45,720 it's disheveled? Could be just shoveled? It could 226 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,750 be the shovel if you hit him over the head with a shovel dish 227 00:12:48,750 --> 00:12:50,490 shoveled Are you kidding me. 228 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,870 Appearing in an orange jumpsuit his hair dish shoveled with his 229 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:59,100 voice strong as he pled not guilty seven times. The public 230 00:12:59,100 --> 00:13:01,650 got their first look at the man accused of killing three people 231 00:13:01,650 --> 00:13:05,310 and destroying hundreds of lives video Dave the Boston Marathon. 232 00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:09,270 I actually felt sick to my stomach. It's very emotional for 233 00:13:09,270 --> 00:13:14,970 me, it was kind of airy kind of upsetting. But then again, I 234 00:13:14,970 --> 00:13:16,830 felt good that I was able to be there. 235 00:13:17,010 --> 00:13:20,010 Okay, so those are the entire two people they have in this 236 00:13:20,010 --> 00:13:20,550 report. 237 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,300 If there's only two typical man on the street from 238 00:13:24,330 --> 00:13:27,810 sank, and they they film them on the street, there were 260 239 00:13:27,810 --> 00:13:32,880 people claimed wounded, multiple deaths. Were our if this had 240 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,630 happened to any if even if my daughter had been slightly 241 00:13:36,630 --> 00:13:40,260 wounded, I'd be there I'd be I'd be outside yelling at the 242 00:13:40,260 --> 00:13:42,600 cameras. I'd be doing all kinds of stuff. They had these two 243 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,890 people with fanny packs and sunglasses. I'm sorry, I'm just 244 00:13:46,890 --> 00:13:51,000 not buying it anymore. And then and then we have the Zimmerman 245 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,200 trial to give us some courtroom feel which is going on 24/7 This 246 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,880 is a huge, huge mistake that we are witnessing right now. It 247 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,820 really is. This is not okay. Well, what's 248 00:14:02,820 --> 00:14:03,600 the mistake? 249 00:14:03,810 --> 00:14:06,990 The mistake is the mistake is that we allow ourselves to be 250 00:14:06,990 --> 00:14:10,620 snookered into still looking at these stupid sketches and then 251 00:14:10,620 --> 00:14:14,370 believe that this is taking place I don't even think this is 252 00:14:14,370 --> 00:14:18,600 taking place John, prove it to me. Prove to me that this is 253 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,370 that there's a trial taking place. 254 00:14:20,910 --> 00:14:24,630 Well, I mean, you have a I can't that's the problem. I think 255 00:14:24,630 --> 00:14:28,410 there is but I can't prove it. All I want is a little coffee 256 00:14:28,410 --> 00:14:31,410 with you on this one. I think we should all these cases should be 257 00:14:31,410 --> 00:14:32,190 televised, 258 00:14:32,250 --> 00:14:33,510 should be televised. And 259 00:14:34,830 --> 00:14:37,380 why not? They're open to the public. There's a gallery in 260 00:14:37,380 --> 00:14:39,510 there. You can go in there if you can get in there early 261 00:14:39,510 --> 00:14:42,630 enough. Well, apparently I can't watch it on television. This is 262 00:14:42,630 --> 00:14:46,920 the 21st century and this is like a big big time case and 263 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:47,160 why? 264 00:14:48,450 --> 00:14:51,510 Why not a picture? Why not a regular picture? Why do we have 265 00:14:51,510 --> 00:14:55,470 to suffice with a straight out of raw photograph? photograph? 266 00:14:55,470 --> 00:14:58,620 Yes. Why not a photograph? Why do we accept this? This is not 267 00:14:58,650 --> 00:15:03,240 1892 where they had to go develop an app? No, this is 268 00:15:03,270 --> 00:15:07,230 there's no reason for this. There is no reason that we can't 269 00:15:07,230 --> 00:15:10,350 have a photograph. And why doesn't anyone want as a result 270 00:15:10,350 --> 00:15:13,140 for no photographs at some point? This is by the way, no 271 00:15:13,140 --> 00:15:18,000 longer valid was the shutters were distracting. But of course, 272 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,180 if you go to any of these press conferences with clippity, clop, 273 00:15:21,180 --> 00:15:26,610 or anybody else, your BS, let us there are plenty of Wait, 274 00:15:26,910 --> 00:15:29,280 wait a minute, wait a minute, you're telling me that the 275 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,090 sketches sketches didn't start because of distracting the 276 00:15:33,090 --> 00:15:34,230 camera sounds? 277 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,340 Well, I think cancer me that for the purposes of you know, before 278 00:15:38,340 --> 00:15:42,270 there were cameras, let's say in the 1800s. Yeah. And then when 279 00:15:42,270 --> 00:15:45,120 cameras came to be that they were huge clunkers there were 280 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,110 these giant press cameras and a big flash shot. And so then when 281 00:15:49,110 --> 00:15:52,290 they finally had stripes, or little cameras, they made a lot 282 00:15:52,290 --> 00:15:54,180 of racket. They still most of them do. 283 00:15:54,210 --> 00:15:56,160 You're making my point for me, of course. 284 00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:59,280 I mean, now of course you have shot cameras that make zero 285 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,010 noise and there's not as use an iPhone, it did get better. So I 286 00:16:02,010 --> 00:16:02,100 was 287 00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:05,220 gonna say there's not a single person who was able to sneak in 288 00:16:05,220 --> 00:16:08,310 if an iPhone or a camera or something everyone went through 289 00:16:08,310 --> 00:16:10,860 a metal detector. Is that what happened? Did everyone go 290 00:16:10,860 --> 00:16:12,180 through a slave scanner 291 00:16:12,180 --> 00:16:15,720 stuff? You can't be in there on the iPhone, right? Well, I'm 292 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,060 just not I'm not accepting that anymore. It is no longer 293 00:16:18,060 --> 00:16:23,790 acceptable in the 21st century. To not have photos at least a 294 00:16:23,790 --> 00:16:28,110 photograph of what is taking place in the courtroom. It it. 295 00:16:29,340 --> 00:16:31,320 it invigorates conspiracy theory. 296 00:16:32,460 --> 00:16:34,920 Right. And as we're witnessing with you, 297 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,560 right, so no trial, it's 298 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,390 not taking place stop. It's 299 00:16:39,420 --> 00:16:44,070 proven to me. And and by the way, everyone's saying, well, 300 00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:46,890 the guy who we think is there who we have no evidence, no 301 00:16:46,890 --> 00:16:51,300 video video or photographic evidence. He's not the guy. He's 302 00:16:51,300 --> 00:16:56,130 taller. He speaks with a Russian accent guilty. Yeah, of course. 303 00:16:56,130 --> 00:16:58,440 He's not guilty. It's not him do anything. 304 00:16:58,560 --> 00:16:59,730 am I even doing here? 305 00:16:59,850 --> 00:17:04,350 I just woke up here. I got a headache. What's going on? This 306 00:17:04,350 --> 00:17:08,790 is this. There's so much craziness. And this is just the 307 00:17:08,790 --> 00:17:13,320 tip of the iceberg. I have been running into so many things. I 308 00:17:13,650 --> 00:17:21,360 think I need to start it off with with the snow job. I found 309 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:24,480 out some stuff that is really, really quite disturbing. Yeah. 310 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,180 It's quite disturbing to get the panel. 311 00:17:27,660 --> 00:17:33,000 Yeah. Well, first, the let me see, I need to remind, let's 312 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,500 just go back to a couple shows ago, when we had the this is the 313 00:17:37,530 --> 00:17:40,380 Charlie Rose show. And it's very important that if you're new to 314 00:17:40,380 --> 00:17:45,060 this program, we we have to bring back these clips from time 315 00:17:45,060 --> 00:17:47,070 to time. So you really understand how things work. 316 00:17:47,130 --> 00:17:51,180 Edward Snowden did not drop a file on a server. You know, he 317 00:17:51,180 --> 00:17:53,970 didn't put out a bit torrent of all these documents have not 318 00:17:53,970 --> 00:17:57,540 been floating around the world, in fact, exactly like WikiLeaks, 319 00:17:57,570 --> 00:18:00,900 he went to, to the press organizations. Turns out he 320 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:03,360 actually went to a third, which we'll talk about in a moment, 321 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:09,090 which is where my surprise comes from. And those press outlets, 322 00:18:09,090 --> 00:18:12,510 they determine what is going to be published, they have made 323 00:18:12,510 --> 00:18:15,540 everything public. Right, yeah, consulting with the government. 324 00:18:15,540 --> 00:18:18,300 And that is what I wanted to replay just so we are reminded 325 00:18:18,300 --> 00:18:22,470 that this is the editor of The Guardian talking about what she 326 00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:26,520 did. And she is the the editor at large, I believe in her 327 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,490 senior editor all Brett's, of course, is there on the Charlie 328 00:18:29,490 --> 00:18:32,160 Rose show. And they went to the government and they talked about 329 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,810 what they wanted to publish leave national 330 00:18:33,810 --> 00:18:36,000 security in the United States has been damaged. 331 00:18:37,020 --> 00:18:40,860 I do not. And we have consulted with the authorities about 332 00:18:40,860 --> 00:18:42,870 everything that we have published. And we've invited 333 00:18:42,870 --> 00:18:46,440 them with the NSA with the White House to ask them DNI 334 00:18:47,010 --> 00:18:49,770 is this damaging to national security? And should we is there 335 00:18:49,770 --> 00:18:51,810 any real reason we should not publish this? 336 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,290 We've invited specific national security concerns about we've 337 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,320 let them know what we're going to publish? And, you know, to 338 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,400 the specifics of which slide of which presentation or which 339 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,920 document On which date? And 340 00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:06,630 would you tell me how that happens? Because it's 341 00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:07,410 interesting to me. 342 00:19:07,740 --> 00:19:10,200 It's come up before with other news organizations in the United 343 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:10,560 States, do 344 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,520 you go to NSA authorities, whether it's General Alexander 345 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,530 or someone else, and say, 346 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:21,420 This is what we're prepared to publish? is, what's the next 347 00:19:21,420 --> 00:19:22,290 part of the question? 348 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,920 Well, in this situation, you're not really asking a question, 349 00:19:25,950 --> 00:19:28,560 because you have the information when you want to publish this, 350 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,310 what's your response? You're saying, This is what we have? Do 351 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:35,490 you have a specific national security concern that you would 352 00:19:35,490 --> 00:19:38,640 like to alert us to? And well, yes, that is a question or we 353 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,960 are inviting you to raise and then we don't guarantee that we 354 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,420 will agree with their interpretation or stop. What 355 00:19:45,420 --> 00:19:47,610 we're saying is we would you know, we'd like to hear that, 356 00:19:47,730 --> 00:19:52,500 and then you heard it. Actually, we haven't really concerned and 357 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:55,080 had specific national security concerns that anything's ever 358 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:55,650 expressed 359 00:19:55,650 --> 00:19:58,980 any security specific concerns. No. 360 00:19:59,010 --> 00:20:02,220 Okay. So they never were expressed any specific national 361 00:20:02,220 --> 00:20:06,630 concerti security concerns because they want this to 362 00:20:06,630 --> 00:20:10,050 happen. They wanted this to take place. And I think I can put 363 00:20:10,050 --> 00:20:13,320 together a pretty good picture now, of all the players 364 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,860 involved. Now what has happened? So let's say this took place, 365 00:20:16,860 --> 00:20:17,310 let's just 366 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,160 well, by the way, I want to remind listeners that you one 367 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,300 element in there, which we have to consider for all the 368 00:20:24,300 --> 00:20:28,440 analysis, which is no, they gave him the documents, so that no 369 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,640 problem and then everybody made a fuss, right, in fact, a lot of 370 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,520 it. So in other words, a lot of acting is taking place. And 371 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:35,760 let's 372 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,790 take a look at three actors right now, before we go to the 373 00:20:38,790 --> 00:20:41,880 best actor of all, which will be our president here is as the big 374 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,990 new Brzezinski on the Fareed Zakaria program, and he kind of 375 00:20:45,990 --> 00:20:51,420 sets it up now. Brzezinski was a big guy in the bush one regime, 376 00:20:51,420 --> 00:20:51,480 I 377 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,180 believe it was back to Nixon. Oh, yes. 378 00:20:54,180 --> 00:20:58,290 What? No, I'm sorry. He was Nixon's wasn't he? I don't think 379 00:20:58,290 --> 00:21:01,770 he was ever Secretary of State but he was. exam anyway, go on, 380 00:21:01,770 --> 00:21:04,560 but Brzezinski and of course, Brzezinski, his daughter, mica, 381 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,200 she's on the Morning Joe Show. So the Brzezinski Empire 382 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:07,830 reaches? 383 00:21:08,459 --> 00:21:11,729 Well think of Daniel Ellsberg. Now, Daniel 384 00:21:11,730 --> 00:21:15,330 Ellsberg is important in this case, because I'm not so sure 385 00:21:15,330 --> 00:21:19,680 Daniel Ellsberg was entirely clean either. Daniel Ellsberg 386 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,500 took him, it was kind of the same model. If you look at it. 387 00:21:22,860 --> 00:21:25,920 He took the so called pentagon papers to the New York Times, I 388 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,920 believe, right, John? Yep. He also there was no servers from 389 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,860 the uploaded to at the time. So that was kind of the way and I 390 00:21:31,860 --> 00:21:35,010 have a feeling the New York Times also did something very 391 00:21:35,010 --> 00:21:38,130 similar. And it might have benefited some people to release 392 00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:41,730 this information in the manner that it was released. Episode. 393 00:21:41,730 --> 00:21:45,840 Now, Ellsberg is brought in kind of as the granddaddy of doing 394 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,950 this kind of stuff. And it's interesting how he is portrayed 395 00:21:49,950 --> 00:21:53,430 versus Bradley Manning or Edward Snowden. He was against 396 00:21:53,430 --> 00:21:57,300 our policy in Vietnam. He revealed classified documents, 397 00:21:57,390 --> 00:22:00,840 he did it in the United States, and it was prepared to face 398 00:22:00,870 --> 00:22:04,650 music. He may have been misguided, but he certainly was 399 00:22:04,650 --> 00:22:09,540 patriotic. What did this guy do? He goes to China. And then he 400 00:22:09,540 --> 00:22:13,950 goes to Russia, both countries that would like to replace us on 401 00:22:13,950 --> 00:22:17,310 top of the global totem pole. And Russia, certainly under 402 00:22:17,310 --> 00:22:21,510 Putin is far from being friendly to the United States. So what 403 00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:25,890 are his motives? Who is he trying to appeal to? Who are his 404 00:22:25,890 --> 00:22:30,960 allies that he made his choice? In other words, I'm very 405 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,440 skeptical about his motivations, maybe psychologically mixed up, 406 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,530 but he's certainly no friend of the United States objectively, 407 00:22:37,710 --> 00:22:39,720 and maybe even subjectively, so here's 408 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,650 Brzezinski basically saying the guy's a spy for China and or 409 00:22:43,650 --> 00:22:46,860 Russia. So that's one way of looking at it. Now in the same 410 00:22:46,860 --> 00:22:51,120 show. We have Richard Haass, who is an elite douchebag, from the 411 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:52,830 Council on Foreign Relations. 412 00:22:53,639 --> 00:22:56,789 Machiavelli once said that you can tell somebody by the people 413 00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:59,549 he has around them. Well, this character, the countries that 414 00:22:59,549 --> 00:23:02,339 are potentially willing to take them are essentially outliers. 415 00:23:02,579 --> 00:23:04,949 And that tells you something they're really outside to the 416 00:23:04,949 --> 00:23:07,409 extent there even is an international community. They're 417 00:23:07,409 --> 00:23:10,259 not part of it. This has turned into a farce, but we should not 418 00:23:10,259 --> 00:23:12,029 forget wrapped around this farce. 419 00:23:12,540 --> 00:23:15,960 Hold on a second. wind it back a little bit, because this guy's 420 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:16,620 on a roll. I was 421 00:23:16,620 --> 00:23:18,120 waiting for you to catch this. Yeah. Okay. 422 00:23:19,380 --> 00:23:24,780 So there are outliers. China and Russia, Russia are not part of 423 00:23:24,780 --> 00:23:28,860 the international community. Oh, they are not everything we buy 424 00:23:28,860 --> 00:23:32,670 is from China. China is the most up and coming country in the 425 00:23:32,670 --> 00:23:34,560 world. What do you mean there? What is this guy trying to 426 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,590 pull? Yeah, well, this is this is for reasons. 427 00:23:38,130 --> 00:23:40,680 You should be called out as rows, call him out for being 428 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,880 fooled into craps for 429 00:23:41,910 --> 00:23:44,670 not rows. This is Fareed Zakaria. Oh, it's the God never 430 00:23:44,670 --> 00:23:48,750 mind. Do I need to say more? Now as a cardio won't call anyone I 431 00:23:48,750 --> 00:23:49,950 used to agree is 432 00:23:49,980 --> 00:23:53,610 if anybody's an anti American, it's that guy 433 00:23:53,610 --> 00:23:56,250 thinks Akari is also on the Council of Foreign Relations. Is 434 00:23:56,250 --> 00:23:57,600 he not? I think 435 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,470 he might be he probably is. But the point is, Erin Burnett in 436 00:24:01,530 --> 00:24:04,350 redoing the Constitution, throwing it out and all the rest 437 00:24:04,350 --> 00:24:05,040 of it. Exactly. 438 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,410 So this guy is short and then we'll get to the final that 439 00:24:07,410 --> 00:24:07,650 tells 440 00:24:07,650 --> 00:24:09,750 you something they're really outside to the extent there even 441 00:24:09,780 --> 00:24:11,220 is an international community. 442 00:24:11,460 --> 00:24:13,800 They're not there's not even an international community. Just so 443 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,140 you know. There's nothing really going on part of it. 444 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,260 This has turned into a farce but we should not forget wrapped 445 00:24:19,260 --> 00:24:23,190 around this farce. It's a tragedy. This guy is Woody 446 00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:28,170 Allen, lower, he's a felon, he committed treason and what he 447 00:24:28,170 --> 00:24:29,490 did a felon 448 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,890 and he didn't commit he's not been convicted of anything and 449 00:24:31,890 --> 00:24:33,300 he did not commit treason. 450 00:24:34,020 --> 00:24:38,250 And he's not a traitor is never these these floating around. 451 00:24:38,490 --> 00:24:41,460 This guy's full of crap. And he's, you know, if Snowden 452 00:24:41,490 --> 00:24:45,270 manages to squeak through this thing unscathed, this guy gets 453 00:24:45,270 --> 00:24:48,000 sued. But that is total libel, 454 00:24:48,150 --> 00:24:50,640 Americans and others around the world less safe. 455 00:24:50,820 --> 00:24:53,670 So might so when I call Hillary Clinton the lion killing 456 00:24:53,670 --> 00:24:55,080 douchebag. Am I libelous, 457 00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:58,080 she's a public official, or anything you want. Okay? Yeah, 458 00:24:58,110 --> 00:25:01,740 be fun at times to talk about him the way The media is, but 459 00:25:01,740 --> 00:25:05,730 this is serious stuff, people will be vulnerable because of 460 00:25:05,730 --> 00:25:09,360 the way that he is tipped off groups and individuals who want 461 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:13,110 to do a severe harm. So wherever he ends up in an airport lounge 462 00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:17,250 or in Venezuela or ever, his legacy will be truly disruptive. 463 00:25:17,370 --> 00:25:20,040 And this of course, and we know to be not true, because 464 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,640 otherwise our national security apparatus would have said so to 465 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,230 The Guardian prior to publishing, 466 00:25:25,530 --> 00:25:28,800 right? So the whole show these guys are essentially we're not 467 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,080 going to do what they're supposed to do, which is just 468 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,370 slander the guy 469 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,250 we're not done yet. We still have the Wall Street Journal. 470 00:25:35,730 --> 00:25:37,470 They're gonna slander him to write Stephen 471 00:25:37,710 --> 00:25:41,400 spy and we're realists also and all governments have 472 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,730 intelligence agencies and they have legal controls which 473 00:25:44,730 --> 00:25:48,690 operate and which operated at the at the NSA under multiple 474 00:25:48,690 --> 00:25:51,930 administrations. So I agree with both both of these comments. You 475 00:25:51,930 --> 00:25:55,230 know, Martin Luther King wrote a Letter from a Birmingham Jail. 476 00:25:55,410 --> 00:25:57,780 What is what is Snowden going to write letter from a Moscow 477 00:25:57,780 --> 00:26:03,090 transit lounge? Oh, letter from a from a Venezuelan four star 478 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:03,840 hotel. 479 00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:07,890 First of all, we had a false comparison. Yeah, of course, 480 00:26:07,890 --> 00:26:10,410 comparing it to Martin Luther King, 481 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,680 who was not a whistleblower by any means. Whistleblower 482 00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:16,860 know, what's this guy coming up with this? What is this guy's 483 00:26:16,890 --> 00:26:17,100 this 484 00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:20,940 shows you the Bret Stevens this, this shows you the level of 485 00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:23,460 quality of journalism in the United States. 486 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,610 And this is not a guy who was willing to pay the price for the 487 00:26:26,610 --> 00:26:29,730 civil disobedience. He thought he was committing he's also not 488 00:26:29,730 --> 00:26:34,110 a whistleblower. He went into the NSA with the intention to 489 00:26:34,110 --> 00:26:36,420 reveal secrets. It's not like he got there and said, Oh, 490 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,120 this, by the way, has been disputed by everyone. So I find 491 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:42,960 it interesting. In fact, there are recent die. The last 492 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,020 interview that Greenwald did with him, he that Greenwald 493 00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:48,660 published and we don't know if it Greenwald's doing interviews 494 00:26:48,660 --> 00:26:49,830 with anybody, but it's been 495 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,310 great. This was no that first interview you in Hong Kong. 496 00:26:53,310 --> 00:26:53,580 Yeah, 497 00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:56,160 I'm getting there. All right. Let me take let me take you 498 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,900 there and fast pace. He's terrible 499 00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:01,620 things are happening. I need to I need to reveal this to the 500 00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:05,580 public at large. One One comment though, which is, we're holding 501 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:08,130 Snowden we want to hold Snowden morally accountable. Someone 502 00:27:08,130 --> 00:27:11,220 needs to ask how is it that after the Bradley Manning 503 00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:15,150 incident, you can still have a 29 year old contractor not even 504 00:27:15,150 --> 00:27:18,030 working for the government itself, essentially walking into 505 00:27:18,030 --> 00:27:20,760 the Sanctum Sanctorum of our American intelligence 506 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,500 establishment and putting so much information on a zip drive. 507 00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:26,730 However, I assume this is 508 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,060 no he seems to know everything. zip drive. He had the Sanctum 509 00:27:30,060 --> 00:27:32,100 Sanctorum. He's 29 all the time. 510 00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:34,920 But let's stop there. zip drive? 511 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,210 Seriously. Hello. 1980 calling? 512 00:27:40,410 --> 00:27:40,860 You're right, 513 00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:43,620 put it on a zip drive. Coming into the office. What do you 514 00:27:43,650 --> 00:27:48,030 what is that under your zip drive? Watch 515 00:27:48,330 --> 00:27:49,620 the Thank you. Good point. They 516 00:27:49,620 --> 00:27:50,970 even work? Good point. 517 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,120 Do you have drivers for that? Will that work on Windows eight? 518 00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:57,900 Good point. Point well made one for Dvorak will mark you up 519 00:27:57,930 --> 00:28:01,590 large quantity of information. Someone within the intelligence 520 00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:04,770 establishment has to say why do we let this happen again and 521 00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:05,070 again. 522 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,410 It's funny because people used to always say we need to share 523 00:28:07,410 --> 00:28:10,080 more intelligence government is too siloed. You have you know, 524 00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:12,480 and now when you share intelligence, it turns out the 525 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,820 Bradley Manning's of the world and the Edward Snowden 's of the 526 00:28:14,820 --> 00:28:17,580 world end up with too much intelligence, there's probably 527 00:28:17,580 --> 00:28:19,320 some happy medium, we got it. 528 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,920 Okay, the happy medium. That's what Fareed Zakaria is pushing 529 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,530 towards, and he's saying that for reason, because he has 530 00:28:25,710 --> 00:28:28,050 personal meetings with the President, he goes to the White 531 00:28:28,050 --> 00:28:31,050 House by himself, you know, a little sit down little chat to 532 00:28:31,050 --> 00:28:35,010 talk about the agenda. This is well known, well publicized. And 533 00:28:35,010 --> 00:28:39,150 I think that this was a very elaborate setup. If you we go. 534 00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:42,090 Now this is from so I'm just gonna say that the Guardian, 535 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,450 just to give him a little time, that the Guardian probably had 536 00:28:45,450 --> 00:28:47,940 this information around the beginning of May, you know that 537 00:28:47,940 --> 00:28:50,580 you know that because this went on for a while. And you know, we 538 00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:53,580 can point to some specific dates. So maybe they had this 539 00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:59,070 around the first or second week of May, June 7. So this is over 540 00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:02,880 a month ago. Here's what the President said when the Snowden 541 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:08,430 was not known yet. But with the documents had been published, 542 00:29:08,430 --> 00:29:08,520 they 543 00:29:08,820 --> 00:29:12,720 are absolutely certain that all the safeguards are being 544 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:20,520 properly observed. Now, having said all that, you'll remember 545 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,620 when I made that speech a couple of weeks ago, about the need for 546 00:29:25,620 --> 00:29:32,370 us to shift out of a perpetual war mindset. I specifically said 547 00:29:32,370 --> 00:29:34,470 that one of the things that we're going to have to discuss 548 00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:39,420 and debate is how are we striking this balance between 549 00:29:39,420 --> 00:29:44,040 the need to keep the American people safe? And our concerns 550 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:50,700 about privacy? Because there are some trade offs involved. I 551 00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:56,700 welcome this debate. And I think it's healthy for our democracy. 552 00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:58,530 I think it's a sign of maturity because 553 00:29:58,650 --> 00:30:02,160 so here is saying I Welcome to debate and it seems it appears 554 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,820 to me the debate was wanted all along, he points back to the 555 00:30:05,820 --> 00:30:10,890 speech he had a couple of weeks ago. That was the May 23 speech 556 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,270 when he was interrupted by the by the so called protester who 557 00:30:15,270 --> 00:30:17,910 interrupted him three times when he was talking. Mainly we 558 00:30:17,910 --> 00:30:21,660 thought about drones. And I've always said, You gotta be real 559 00:30:21,660 --> 00:30:24,570 careful with this guy, because he's slick man, he puts stuff 560 00:30:24,570 --> 00:30:27,480 in, and it comes back and says, Hey, remember I told you that I 561 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,080 told you. So I did mention that. And let's go back to May 23. And 562 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,560 listen to what he said about the balance between freedom and 563 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,430 privacy when when Snowden was not on the radar, nothing had 564 00:30:38,430 --> 00:30:40,740 happened yet, as far as we knew it from the public eye. 565 00:30:42,540 --> 00:30:45,690 Affording homegrown plots presents particular challenges 566 00:30:45,690 --> 00:30:49,080 in part because of our proud commitment to civil liberties 567 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:55,650 for all who call America home. That's why in the years to come, 568 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,920 we will have to keep working hard to strike the appropriate 569 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,490 balance between our need for security and preserving those 570 00:31:02,490 --> 00:31:07,440 freedoms that make us who we are. That means reviewing the 571 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,490 authorities of law enforcement, so we can intercept new types of 572 00:31:11,490 --> 00:31:15,900 communication, but also built in privacy protections to prevent 573 00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:16,410 abuse. 574 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,950 And what has happened since all this went down. We now have the 575 00:31:19,950 --> 00:31:23,220 new rat on your on your colleague program that the 576 00:31:23,220 --> 00:31:26,430 President has instated so we're all you know, for government 577 00:31:26,430 --> 00:31:29,070 contractors, we're all looking out at each other this guy is he 578 00:31:29,070 --> 00:31:31,710 a crook? Because he I mean this is totally you know, this is the 579 00:31:31,710 --> 00:31:35,970 way you you start a complete police state. But I looked at 580 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,480 what you really kickstarted when you get the when you get the 581 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,270 Gestapo looking at each other. That's when the real that's when 582 00:31:42,270 --> 00:31:45,750 it really gets dangerous. But I looked at all the all the actors 583 00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:49,830 in this now we have the following people. We have Glenn 584 00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:56,370 Greenwald. We have Ellsberg he's, he's involved he now he's 585 00:31:56,370 --> 00:32:01,350 showing up in interviews. Oh, yeah. We have. Who are some of 586 00:32:01,350 --> 00:32:03,930 the other people that we find interesting. John Perry Barlow 587 00:32:03,930 --> 00:32:07,320 was out there with WikiLeaks. We know I suspect him of working 588 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,600 for somebody. We have, Jacob, we have Jacob. Yes, Assange, we 589 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,350 have Jacob Appelbaum, who now all of a sudden is also a 590 00:32:16,350 --> 00:32:19,530 reporter now, Jake Jacob Appelbaum, who is credited with 591 00:32:20,430 --> 00:32:23,640 the I think doing the onion router or the Tor network, but 592 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,900 he is the guy that became a spokesperson for Julian Assange. 593 00:32:28,050 --> 00:32:31,740 And he's the guy that tipped me off to keep forgetting her real 594 00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:34,500 name. I call her Leni Riefenstahl. That's not her name 595 00:32:35,490 --> 00:32:38,970 Poydras Laura Poitras. Now, all of a sudden, he's in Der 596 00:32:38,970 --> 00:32:45,060 Spiegel. And he's been doing interviews with Snowden. And 597 00:32:45,060 --> 00:32:47,640 he's the one that says, Well, I interviewed Snowden over 598 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,360 encrypted communications channels. This is in in the 599 00:32:51,390 --> 00:32:55,020 Indus Spiegel. And he says that Snowden has admitted to him, 600 00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:59,430 Jacob Appelbaum, that the NSA created Stuxnet and did it with 601 00:32:59,430 --> 00:33:02,550 the Israelis. And this oh, this is now a big story. So I'm 602 00:33:02,550 --> 00:33:05,280 looking at all these guys. And then I read this this story in 603 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,720 salon, and I've got to read this is an interview with Laura 604 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,800 Poitras. And let me just pull this up for a second because 605 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:19,020 this was because what happened is, Snowden went to her first 606 00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:24,990 according to her account. And and she would he do that? Well, 607 00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:28,890 that was one of the questions. I think. This is a kind of an oral 608 00:33:29,610 --> 00:33:32,340 interview, just no question, answer printed. So it's very 609 00:33:32,340 --> 00:33:34,680 interesting. How did this all begin? I was originally 610 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,440 contacted in January, anonymously. This is how far 611 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,470 back this goes. by Edward Snowden. Well, I didn't know who 612 00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:43,920 it was, what was the format via email, it said, I want to get 613 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,580 your encryption key. Let's get on a secure channel. And he 614 00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:50,550 didn't say what it was about. No, he just said that was the 615 00:33:50,550 --> 00:33:52,860 first and the second was I have some information in the 616 00:33:52,860 --> 00:33:55,710 intelligence community, and it won't be a waste of your time. 617 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,440 Do you get a lot of those kinds of requests? No, I don't. 618 00:33:59,250 --> 00:34:01,740 Because you immediately know what was the best, most secure 619 00:34:01,740 --> 00:34:04,770 protocol and to go about it. Actually, I did have a lot of 620 00:34:04,770 --> 00:34:05,400 people stopped 621 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:10,770 there. This is odd if you asked me. She's a documentary 622 00:34:10,770 --> 00:34:15,150 filmmaker. And well, then again, she has a great backstory, you 623 00:34:15,150 --> 00:34:18,480 know, let me just remind people of her backstory, her backstory, 624 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,450 and I, we actually played some clips of her. You probably don't 625 00:34:21,450 --> 00:34:25,680 remember those over almost no, a couple years ago. We played some 626 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,620 clips of her when she was on Democracy Now and being harassed 627 00:34:28,620 --> 00:34:29,460 by the government. Yeah, 628 00:34:29,460 --> 00:34:32,970 so she's been like me. She has been harassed and been held up 629 00:34:32,970 --> 00:34:36,210 at the border. Big deal. This isn't happened to me many, 630 00:34:36,570 --> 00:34:39,480 but she had a very worried look. She looked like she was about to 631 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,900 cry during. She does look very she has a great look. Yeah. 632 00:34:43,260 --> 00:34:43,980 Okay, go on. 633 00:34:44,070 --> 00:34:46,650 I said, Actually, I didn't know how to go about it. I've had 634 00:34:46,650 --> 00:34:49,320 lots of experience because I've been working with as you note in 635 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,950 your thing. I've done filming with WikiLeaks. I know Jacob, 636 00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:56,160 Jacob Appelbaum. I've already had encryption keys, but what he 637 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,400 was asking for was beyond what I was using in terms of security 638 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,370 and anonymity. And how did it proceed from there? Well, that's 639 00:35:02,370 --> 00:35:05,820 where I'm not going into a lot of details, but sort of ongoing 640 00:35:05,820 --> 00:35:08,730 correspondence. I didn't know I didn't have any biographical 641 00:35:08,730 --> 00:35:12,660 details or where he worked had no idea. He made claims and said 642 00:35:12,660 --> 00:35:14,520 that he had documentation at that point, it was all 643 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,270 completely theoretical. Why do you think he contacted you? 644 00:35:18,930 --> 00:35:23,940 Well, I can't speak for him. I think he got was it say He told 645 00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:27,570 me he'd contacted me, because my border harassment meant that I'd 646 00:35:27,570 --> 00:35:30,990 be a person who had been selected to be selected and he 647 00:35:30,990 --> 00:35:33,420 went through a whole litany of things means that everything you 648 00:35:33,420 --> 00:35:36,420 do every friend you have every purchase you make every street, 649 00:35:36,420 --> 00:35:39,930 you cross means you're being watched. You probably don't like 650 00:35:39,930 --> 00:35:43,890 how the system works, I think you can tell the story. Now, 651 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:50,280 this to me, it almost makes no sense. This is Laura Poitras is 652 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,090 a filmmaker, unless he wanted to have you know, get a feature 653 00:35:54,090 --> 00:35:58,500 film role. Why would you contact her specifically, if you know 654 00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:01,770 that she's being watched by everybody? But here's the thing 655 00:36:01,770 --> 00:36:09,960 that that got me that would sent me into a tailspin. I can say 656 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,000 from conversation to have with him after that. I think he had a 657 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,970 suspicion of mainstream media and particularly what happened 658 00:36:14,970 --> 00:36:17,790 with the New York Times and the warrantless wiretapping story, 659 00:36:17,970 --> 00:36:21,540 which as we know, was shelved for a year. So he expressed that 660 00:36:21,540 --> 00:36:24,960 to me, but I think also in his choices of who we contacted I 661 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,540 didn't know he was reaching out to Glenn at that point. And 662 00:36:27,540 --> 00:36:31,350 here's the line that that caught me off guard. You and Glenn were 663 00:36:31,350 --> 00:36:35,970 already colleagues right? You sit on the board together. I'm 664 00:36:35,970 --> 00:36:38,970 like board, but board is that 665 00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:41,010 that's okay. 666 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,930 Oh Ha. Look at the good get oh no, this is beyond look at the 667 00:36:45,930 --> 00:36:49,470 freedom of the press Foundation, which you can find it freedom. 668 00:36:50,190 --> 00:36:54,510 Press Freedom foundation.org And here they are ladies and 669 00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:58,380 gentlemen. The Board of Directors, Daniel Ellsberg. 670 00:36:58,860 --> 00:37:03,870 Glenn Greenwald, John CUSEC, John Perry Barlow, Josh Stearns, 671 00:37:03,900 --> 00:37:09,960 Laura Poitras, Rainey Reitman, Trevor Tim Xeni Jardin mica Lee, 672 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,820 are you kidding me? So I'm like, wait a minute. And you know me 673 00:37:14,850 --> 00:37:17,640 when it comes to any good foundation, I'm all over it. So 674 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,490 I'm looking at to for the for the nine nine use of the 675 00:37:20,490 --> 00:37:24,960 foundation of the freedom of the press foundation doesn't exist 676 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,640 because they are not a real foundation. What they do though, 677 00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:33,090 is they take 8% of all donations, they bundle which 678 00:37:33,090 --> 00:37:36,570 they hand on to the organizations they benefit. The 679 00:37:36,570 --> 00:37:39,510 organization's our wiki leaks, the Bureau of Investigative 680 00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:42,990 Journalism Center for Public Integrity Truthout muck, rock 681 00:37:42,990 --> 00:37:46,440 news, National Security Archive and the uptake. That's who 682 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,230 they're promoting this week, and they say right there, they take 683 00:37:49,260 --> 00:37:53,760 8% of all donations to I guess, pay for their own salaries. So 684 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,810 who's really behind the freedom of the press press foundation? 685 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,780 Well, it says it right there on the website. The freedom of the 686 00:38:00,780 --> 00:38:03,270 press foundation is made possible by the fiscal 687 00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:08,100 sponsorship of the foundation for national progress. Gee, what 688 00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:09,000 is that, John? 689 00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:12,150 You tell me Adam, Mother Jones. 690 00:38:14,220 --> 00:38:17,910 The foundation for national progress is you didn't even have 691 00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:23,730 a website. It is mother jones.com. Who, so they are a 692 00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:29,340 nonprofit. They had a nice $9 million income Not bad for a 693 00:38:29,340 --> 00:38:32,820 nonprofit blog. Now I have to say they also publish they've 694 00:38:32,820 --> 00:38:36,120 been publishing for a long time. Very interesting history. 695 00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:40,140 Michael Moore was the editor got into a huge fight. He sued them 696 00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:45,060 for $2 million. They settled out of court. You know, this is if 697 00:38:45,060 --> 00:38:48,540 you if you look at their their reporting on 911 They are 698 00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:51,780 totally all in on the 911 Commission Report. They laugh 699 00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:54,450 about the truth or movies, they laugh laugh about the Truther 700 00:38:54,450 --> 00:38:59,040 movement. They of course do not report who's donating this nine, 701 00:38:59,070 --> 00:39:03,420 almost $10 million other than they break it up. 2 million is 702 00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:07,470 from advertising. 4 million is from programs they do where you 703 00:39:07,470 --> 00:39:13,200 know, so they have specific, I guess, fun drives, etc. And then 704 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,800 there's another 4 million that's kind of how roughly how it's 705 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,270 split up. That comes from directly from donors who they by 706 00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:26,430 law do not have to mention, but we do see that the George Soros 707 00:39:26,460 --> 00:39:31,680 Open Society Institute has donated at least $600,000 to 708 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,990 them this year alone. So these guys they're not clean. And they 709 00:39:36,990 --> 00:39:45,210 are funding directly funding. Greenwald Poydras Barlow, Jr. 710 00:39:45,210 --> 00:39:51,870 Den Come on people. Come on. This is this is getting a little 711 00:39:51,870 --> 00:39:52,770 too obvious. 712 00:39:54,780 --> 00:40:00,960 And Mike is in there too. That kid Yeah. That's a good one. 713 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,830 That's a good dig. 714 00:40:01,950 --> 00:40:08,430 It's but it's to me. How can you have this? This freedom of the 715 00:40:08,430 --> 00:40:15,540 press foundation? It's not okay. Our mission. Our mission is 716 00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:18,030 dedicated to helping defend and support aggressive public 717 00:40:18,030 --> 00:40:20,700 interest journalism focused on exposing mismanagement, 718 00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:24,540 corruption, and law breaking in government. We accept tax 719 00:40:24,540 --> 00:40:26,880 deductible donations to a variety of journalism 720 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,250 organizations that push for government transparency and 721 00:40:29,250 --> 00:40:31,110 accountability. How, 722 00:40:31,590 --> 00:40:35,190 what big news did they break that showed corruption in the 723 00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:38,580 government? Nothing? Well, they must have done something more 724 00:40:38,580 --> 00:40:41,790 than just have a couple of beers together and it's been split up 725 00:40:41,790 --> 00:40:43,080 to 900,000. 726 00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:47,909 Well, all that all they are is a front group for for Mother Jones 727 00:40:47,909 --> 00:40:52,949 is essentially just to go collect money and then they say 728 00:40:52,949 --> 00:40:55,619 that they're giving this money to WikiLeaks, but they're not 729 00:40:55,619 --> 00:40:59,969 they collect the money. They take 8% This freedom of the 730 00:40:59,969 --> 00:41:05,579 press Foundation, they give the 92% to Mother Jones. And I guess 731 00:41:05,579 --> 00:41:08,369 Mother Jones then gives it to WikiLeaks, although I could find 732 00:41:08,369 --> 00:41:12,779 no evidence that in their in their form 990. So I'm not so 733 00:41:12,779 --> 00:41:16,799 sure they do that. Maybe they do. But this freedom of the 734 00:41:16,799 --> 00:41:19,139 press foundation is not a real foundation that at least they're 735 00:41:19,139 --> 00:41:21,449 not registered with the IRS as such, or anything that I could 736 00:41:21,449 --> 00:41:26,459 find. But this group, Xeni Jardin COMM And I've suspected 737 00:41:26,459 --> 00:41:32,579 her for a long time now I'm sure this is a spook club. I'll say 738 00:41:32,579 --> 00:41:32,789 it. 739 00:41:36,210 --> 00:41:37,650 Well, that's a pretty odd group. 740 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,280 Yeah, sure. 741 00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:44,610 The only two people that were in the there aren't leaving having 742 00:41:44,610 --> 00:41:48,750 a wiki pitches is Trevor Tim, and Rainey Reitman. 743 00:41:48,930 --> 00:41:51,330 I've heard the name Rainey Reitman somewhere, but I'm not 744 00:41:51,330 --> 00:41:53,100 sure in what context 745 00:41:53,130 --> 00:41:56,430 also affiliated according to the wiki, with the Electronic 746 00:41:56,430 --> 00:41:59,970 Frontier Foundation, which is also knee deep into this, I 747 00:41:59,970 --> 00:42:02,880 also am and I have my suspicions about them. I've had my run ins 748 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,020 that were not so great. 749 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:11,610 I've had other people with similar complaints. To NGO. 750 00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:18,870 Yeah, well, the NGO Exactly. So when I put all of this together, 751 00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:22,710 and I look at all the pieces that are on the table, it 752 00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:26,970 appears to me that this was a very elaborate setup, and I'm 753 00:42:26,970 --> 00:42:30,510 not quite sure who was the Patsy and all of this. In fact, I will 754 00:42:30,510 --> 00:42:33,450 say that the freedom of the press Foundation, these guys are 755 00:42:33,450 --> 00:42:36,750 probably more patsies than even we realize they really believe 756 00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:41,310 that they're they're great. I look at what Glenn Greenwald 757 00:42:41,310 --> 00:42:44,490 tweets all day, the guy he's very full of what he's doing 758 00:42:45,060 --> 00:42:48,570 here. And by the way, Glen, come back to America. You know, 759 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:51,390 everyone wants to know, I want Glenn Greenwald to come back to 760 00:42:51,390 --> 00:42:54,930 America. Why doesn't he live here? throwing rocks from 761 00:42:54,930 --> 00:43:01,650 Brazil? That's easy. No, no, there's lots of patsies here. 762 00:43:01,650 --> 00:43:04,080 And when you hear the President set it up, 763 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,590 and by the way, well, ya know, on almost almost as 764 00:43:07,590 --> 00:43:10,800 a non sequitur, in the conversation about drones and 765 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,460 Muslim Americans. And all of a sudden, he says we need to have 766 00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:17,880 this conversation about the balance between security and 767 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:23,370 privacy. And then a few weeks later, this comes out. He flees. 768 00:43:24,090 --> 00:43:27,810 I'm not buying the coincidence anymore. I'm just not. He knew 769 00:43:27,810 --> 00:43:31,800 he knew it was coming. Whether he was complicit in it or not, 770 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,860 he knew was coming. It was known within circles by this time, 771 00:43:34,860 --> 00:43:38,430 because this goes back to January, February. They had 772 00:43:38,430 --> 00:43:41,910 already been the Guardian had already been to the White House 773 00:43:42,060 --> 00:43:46,680 and to the Department of the Defense Intelligence and to the 774 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,470 NSA. Everyone knew what was going on they also now this is 775 00:43:49,470 --> 00:43:52,950 good, good to go. No national security problem here this this 776 00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:55,620 good to go things first problem number one, the second problem 777 00:43:55,620 --> 00:43:58,290 which I do have a clip on. And I want you to play and just tell 778 00:43:58,290 --> 00:44:01,200 me if you can identify this problem because this this is 779 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:06,930 Glenn Greenwald and democracy now with with our friend Amy. 780 00:44:07,170 --> 00:44:10,080 And there's a big hole in the way that this is presented. And 781 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,650 I think this probably helps you build your your case 782 00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:14,280 developments 783 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,550 over the weekend, and then we'll go to your latest revelations 784 00:44:18,030 --> 00:44:21,630 about the countries that have offered Edward Snowden 785 00:44:22,830 --> 00:44:23,610 asylum. 786 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,740 What happened to Evo Morales, the 787 00:44:25,770 --> 00:44:29,790 Bolivian President who's playing was forced down in Austria. Oh, 788 00:44:29,790 --> 00:44:30,450 please, 789 00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:34,200 kid. This makes me want to puke. All right, we'll keep going 790 00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:34,800 because it 791 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,750 was believed Snowden was on board. 792 00:44:37,950 --> 00:44:40,440 I think that the United States government has been its own 793 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,220 worst enemy in this entire episode, the idea that they 794 00:44:44,220 --> 00:44:47,880 would pressure their European allies to block the plane 795 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,000 carrying the president of a sovereign state from flying over 796 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,450 their countries and force it to land rather dangerously in a 797 00:44:54,450 --> 00:44:57,660 country I had no intention of landing in simply because they 798 00:44:57,660 --> 00:45:00,240 wanted to deny Edward Snowden the international well 799 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:04,050 established right to seek asylum is a really radical and extreme 800 00:45:04,050 --> 00:45:07,260 act. It just smacks of rogue nation status and the kind of 801 00:45:07,260 --> 00:45:10,830 imperialism and colonialism that Latin America has long shaped 802 00:45:10,830 --> 00:45:12,540 that and I think that's the reason you're seeing so much 803 00:45:12,540 --> 00:45:15,000 support for Snowden and Latin American governments and among 804 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:16,620 the populations as well 805 00:45:16,650 --> 00:45:19,950 too for for such a well researched journalist for 806 00:45:19,950 --> 00:45:24,660 someone who really does all his homework and is heralded as just 807 00:45:24,660 --> 00:45:29,130 a fantastic all round guy living in Brazil. Why does he not have 808 00:45:29,130 --> 00:45:35,250 a copy of the aircraft's Foxtrot Alpha Bravo 001 The Falcon 809 00:45:35,250 --> 00:45:40,710 Trident as it requests to land in Austria because they which is 810 00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:44,430 a lie a pilots lie, because they can't really tell how much fuel 811 00:45:44,430 --> 00:45:46,440 they have left I will remind you with the clip 812 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,140 001 Evening information whiskey expect 813 00:46:03,330 --> 00:46:04,440 Do you need any assistance? 814 00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:08,610 They need any assistance. 815 00:46:09,419 --> 00:46:12,749 So he says Do you need any assistance? And of course, the 816 00:46:12,929 --> 00:46:16,409 what he shouldn't be saying is you are hereby forced to land 817 00:46:16,469 --> 00:46:20,069 land your aircraft immediately. You ain't no you've got him on 818 00:46:20,069 --> 00:46:21,719 board you will land here now. 819 00:46:23,130 --> 00:46:28,740 Not at this moment. Because we are we cannot get a correct 820 00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:31,020 indication of indication. 821 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,990 Okay, so there's the lie. 822 00:46:37,230 --> 00:46:41,040 There's your forced land is forced landing, forced landing. 823 00:46:41,460 --> 00:46:43,950 And these guys one's gone with this meme. All these guys have 824 00:46:43,950 --> 00:46:46,260 gone with this meme. And this is this gets to me, because every 825 00:46:46,260 --> 00:46:49,020 time I've watched the mainstream media or Democracy Now I 826 00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:51,720 mentioned this in the newsletter. They're all in on 827 00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:54,960 this bullcrap. And no one wouldn't take very little work. 828 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,700 I mean, we uncovered this real hard, is it? How hard is it? And 829 00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:03,990 unless you're doing it on purpose, and I think it's. And 830 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,050 the funny thing is, as more and more revelations come out, we 831 00:47:07,050 --> 00:47:09,390 find out that Portugal never blocked them from going on. They 832 00:47:09,390 --> 00:47:10,800 just blocked them from landing. 833 00:47:10,860 --> 00:47:13,230 They said we don't have we don't we can't handle you right now. 834 00:47:13,230 --> 00:47:17,850 Which is not unusual, which is probably why he said, You see, 835 00:47:18,420 --> 00:47:21,510 okay, I'm a pilot. So I get I get to say this with authority. 836 00:47:21,930 --> 00:47:24,480 When you want to change something, a flight plan, 837 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,440 something is unplanned, you have to communicate with air traffic 838 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,040 control. And some if you know the guy or the gal, you can say, 839 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,100 hey, I need you to Could you please give me some it's 840 00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:38,430 actually they say, for your consideration. This is how you 841 00:47:38,430 --> 00:47:41,670 talk with air with air traffic control for your consideration 842 00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:43,710 when this is what I'd like to do. But if you don't know the 843 00:47:43,710 --> 00:47:47,400 person, you have to say either we have you can't declare an 844 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,070 emergency, you cannot declare an emergency if you don't have one 845 00:47:50,070 --> 00:47:53,430 that can that can lose your license for good. But you can 846 00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:55,440 say yeah, we've got something going on here that we don't 847 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,680 really like I've got a little fuel indication issue or I've 848 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,040 got a sick passenger, which you know, I didn't say it a heart 849 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,490 attack. It could be puking could be air sick, whatever. These are 850 00:48:05,490 --> 00:48:09,330 the lies that you use. Remember that the Bolivian President had 851 00:48:09,330 --> 00:48:14,280 just come from Moscow. So the whole thing was set up. Hey, 852 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,560 I'll make we'll make a landing. We'll make a big stink about it. 853 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,830 We'll do a press conference. That's what happened. And your 854 00:48:19,830 --> 00:48:24,030 great media, your guardians of Guardians of reality they're in, 855 00:48:24,330 --> 00:48:29,430 in Brazil, and democracy now. They're all in on it. Why can't 856 00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:30,870 anyone question this? 857 00:48:32,490 --> 00:48:34,440 Now, no one's questioned it. There's always been they've been 858 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,080 forced down and then that plane was searched because they 859 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,640 thought Snowden was on board. Yeah. And there was no in the 860 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,980 reality of it. There was no thought that Snowden was on 861 00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:48,240 board. No, then nobody they gave the clearance to go all the way 862 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:50,610 I mean, this whole thing I think Putin is behind it. 863 00:48:50,879 --> 00:48:53,609 Well, no, I Putin is certainly behind this part. And 864 00:48:53,610 --> 00:48:56,460 here's what we want you guys to hit. Did you want to do Bolivian 865 00:48:56,460 --> 00:49:02,730 Gikas or trade partners five I got a great idea. Listen to 866 00:49:02,730 --> 00:49:05,580 this. You don't have to do it if you don't want to. But why don't 867 00:49:05,580 --> 00:49:11,910 you just go float and go into instead towards Europe and then 868 00:49:11,940 --> 00:49:15,210 just get somehow land in Austria and we're just requested and we 869 00:49:15,210 --> 00:49:17,670 you can do it a lot of different ways. And then we'll dream up 870 00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:20,940 this bullcrap story and see what happens. It's just it's just 871 00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:25,380 amazing to me that this has not been it hasn't they haven't gone 872 00:49:25,380 --> 00:49:29,910 one since one little layer deeper. They're just this whole 873 00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:33,030 thing. These people are just horrible. Here's let me read the 874 00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:34,950 finest anybody watched this news? 875 00:49:35,370 --> 00:49:40,170 Oh, it's the Okay. Obviously they got hot chicks. Hello. I 876 00:49:40,170 --> 00:49:43,440 watched it for the women. I even watched it for some of the guys 877 00:49:43,470 --> 00:49:47,820 Williams. Here's the final paragraph that is this is a 878 00:49:47,820 --> 00:49:50,370 great interview. It's in salon, by the way who I think are 879 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,610 complicit in this whole thing is where Glenn Greenwald came from. 880 00:49:53,940 --> 00:49:57,540 You know salon is financed literally financed the $3 881 00:49:57,540 --> 00:50:02,010 million a year deficit by the owner. have Adobe, not the 882 00:50:02,010 --> 00:50:06,300 chairman, the whole everyone's in on this. So how did it get to 883 00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:09,420 the point? The question is asked of Laura Poitras filmmaker who, 884 00:50:09,630 --> 00:50:12,660 who Snowden reached out to because that's, that's the 885 00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:13,980 person I'm gonna go to. 886 00:50:14,730 --> 00:50:17,190 Yes. Am I being constantly watched? Yeah, I'm gonna go to 887 00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:18,150 the person constantly 888 00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:21,750 watch who has no newspaper? How did it get to the point where 889 00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:24,450 you knew it was going to be a story and how did you decide 890 00:50:24,450 --> 00:50:28,350 where where it was going to be published? So right here salon 891 00:50:28,380 --> 00:50:33,120 is presuming in the questioning that she determined where it was 892 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:33,360 going. 893 00:50:34,110 --> 00:50:38,280 She was the handler. She's the handler, yeah, her story, her 894 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,890 answer. Those are details I'm not going to go into what what I 895 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,860 what I can say is that once I had a few pieces of 896 00:50:46,860 --> 00:50:50,610 correspondence I said, let me ask a couple of people about 897 00:50:50,610 --> 00:50:53,850 this people who have experience and I sat down with a couple of 898 00:50:53,850 --> 00:50:58,290 people, one of whom was Bart Gellman at Bart Gellman at that 899 00:50:58,290 --> 00:51:02,130 point was not working for The Washington Post. You'll recall 900 00:51:02,130 --> 00:51:06,300 him saying that he was brought in as a consultant to publish 901 00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:09,780 this story. So he actually walked the story to the 902 00:51:09,780 --> 00:51:15,330 Washington Post this thing it's a setup it's a club makes its 903 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,640 its thinks of a cleanse cleansed out. Intestine. 904 00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:24,390 So let's listen to a couple of things from this guy who was the 905 00:51:24,420 --> 00:51:27,600 really old old one the oldest, I've never seen him before. I 906 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,790 never heard him before I because when it comes to wish 907 00:51:29,820 --> 00:51:33,000 whistleblowers from the NSA, I've always been a fan of 908 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,820 Benny's. Yeah, because Benny I've seen him do public 909 00:51:35,820 --> 00:51:39,240 speaking. I've listened we've had clips of him and he seems 910 00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:40,260 genuinely 911 00:51:40,350 --> 00:51:44,070 annoyed. But he's not dynamic, though. Binney is kind of like 912 00:51:44,070 --> 00:51:44,790 the No, he's not 913 00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:48,030 dynamic at all. He's he's like, like, the pissed off. boring 914 00:51:48,030 --> 00:51:48,360 person. 915 00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:51,150 He's like the guy with the red stapler. So let's, 916 00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:56,790 right, I got my staple stamp, I'm gonna burn the place down. 917 00:51:56,790 --> 00:52:00,900 They're gonna burn the place down. So let's listen to this 918 00:52:00,900 --> 00:52:03,660 Tice character who's on Russia. This, by the way, got most of 919 00:52:03,660 --> 00:52:06,840 the attention of the of the Twitter's and all the people 920 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:06,960 that 921 00:52:07,590 --> 00:52:10,740 we've run twice before right Tice is the guy that said he 922 00:52:10,740 --> 00:52:14,730 even had to eavesdrop on then Senator Obama. 923 00:52:15,570 --> 00:52:19,320 Yeah, because Tice had a thing on boiling frogs. He was 924 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,460 interviewed. Yes. Yeah. By car bears. B. Smith, who's an old 925 00:52:23,490 --> 00:52:27,570 fashioned guy. He's an old DJ type. And he. So every question 926 00:52:27,570 --> 00:52:30,990 is like this. Well, Adam, what else did you in fact, you were 927 00:52:30,990 --> 00:52:34,980 doing a thing now with the thing you just gave it. What? Well, 928 00:52:34,980 --> 00:52:37,920 Adam, what else did you find out about John Perry Barlow? 929 00:52:37,950 --> 00:52:41,310 Well, I found out that he is a former cattle rancher and one 930 00:52:41,310 --> 00:52:43,200 time lyricist for the Grateful Dead. 931 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,930 And can I ask you another question? Yes, please go ahead. 932 00:52:46,110 --> 00:52:49,680 On the list of the key people on the freedom of press foundation. 933 00:52:49,830 --> 00:52:53,040 Yes. Why is John Kuzak mentioned 934 00:52:53,070 --> 00:52:56,580 I think probably because he has done many military industrial 935 00:52:56,580 --> 00:52:59,670 complex movies. You remember the one he did about the war in 936 00:52:59,730 --> 00:53:03,270 Iraq? You remember that this guy is a total shill and paid actor 937 00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:04,620 for the Mi see. 938 00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:07,110 Oh, very good dad. I'm very good report. I 939 00:53:07,110 --> 00:53:11,040 will say no, my my my thanks goes to you, sir. Dvorak. I'm 940 00:53:11,070 --> 00:53:12,990 always happy to be on your program. 941 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,010 So anyway, so Carter B. Smith is interviewing like that with with 942 00:53:17,010 --> 00:53:20,190 Tice. And it's just you can't keep it? Yes. It's almost like 943 00:53:20,190 --> 00:53:21,720 cracking up all the time. So because there's not 944 00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:23,910 conversational, which is really, you know, it's very old 945 00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:26,460 fashioned, right. So let's listen to Thai. So more 946 00:53:26,460 --> 00:53:28,680 recently, where he actually brought out a couple of new 947 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:33,960 little tidbits about and he was the guy who was right was 948 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,560 involved with this spying on Obama in 2004. I have 949 00:53:37,620 --> 00:53:41,010 he's because he's a whistleblower. He is an NSA 950 00:53:41,010 --> 00:53:43,140 whistleblower is the NSA or CIA? Yeah, no, 951 00:53:43,140 --> 00:53:45,360 no, he was NSA. How come he's 952 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,440 not dead or in jail? 953 00:53:47,490 --> 00:53:50,280 Well, I think it was. That's a good question. 954 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,270 It doesn't qualify as a great question. But it's worth noting. 955 00:53:54,540 --> 00:53:56,880 It's worth noting, but we'll we'll play him anyway, even 956 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,760 though he's, you know, and he seems like a nice enough guy. 957 00:54:00,030 --> 00:54:02,670 But he's, he's been out of the NSA for so long. They can always 958 00:54:02,670 --> 00:54:05,790 just add, what does he know? So let's play I got three clips 959 00:54:05,790 --> 00:54:08,580 from Tice, which have a couple little interesting little items 960 00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:10,200 we may want to discuss, play one 961 00:54:10,649 --> 00:54:14,159 of NSA abuses go far beyond what people are even talking about 962 00:54:14,159 --> 00:54:16,949 right now. How far does it go for us? 963 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:23,010 Well, it goes very far. Because initially, what I saw was they 964 00:54:23,010 --> 00:54:25,110 were targeting news organizations, they were 965 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,010 targeting targeting US companies that did international business, 966 00:54:29,010 --> 00:54:32,430 they were charging, looking at financial institutions. But they 967 00:54:32,430 --> 00:54:36,810 were also going after the State Department and Secretary of 968 00:54:36,810 --> 00:54:40,410 State Colin Powell at the time, and they were going after high 969 00:54:40,410 --> 00:54:43,230 ranking military generals. And that was just with my space 970 00:54:43,230 --> 00:54:46,470 capabilities that I saw. Now later, when I got together with 971 00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:49,980 colleagues, and we started to put together the terrestrial 972 00:54:49,980 --> 00:54:53,550 side. That's the side that is being done with all those nodes 973 00:54:53,550 --> 00:54:56,100 all over the country with the fiber optics and that sort of 974 00:54:56,100 --> 00:55:00,840 thing. Then we found out that it got much worse. You because and 975 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,540 this was just the phone that we were looking at, but it was also 976 00:55:03,540 --> 00:55:07,440 being done at the email level. But that wasn't the information 977 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,590 I was getting the information I was seeing. Were phone numbers 978 00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:13,800 that were being plugged into a system that was going after 979 00:55:14,490 --> 00:55:19,050 people's phone, phone numbers, and associated numbers and a lot 980 00:55:19,050 --> 00:55:21,930 of a lot of numbers. I wasn't even sure but they went after 981 00:55:22,050 --> 00:55:26,850 they went after law firms and lawyers. They went after more 982 00:55:26,850 --> 00:55:29,850 generals, General Petraeus was one of the guys that seemed like 983 00:55:29,850 --> 00:55:32,460 right about that three star level was they were going after 984 00:55:32,460 --> 00:55:36,090 admirals and generals. They went after the Supreme Court of which 985 00:55:36,090 --> 00:55:40,140 I held. Judge Alito has paperwork in my hand numbers 986 00:55:40,140 --> 00:55:43,290 associated with Judge Alito, that someone had put into the 987 00:55:43,290 --> 00:55:46,710 system that NSA used to spy on Judge Alito. And let's 988 00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:49,200 just break this down a little bit. Because these are explosive 989 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,930 allegations right now that I have not heard anyone talk about 990 00:55:51,930 --> 00:55:54,900 before that they're actually ordered that us personally saw 991 00:55:54,930 --> 00:55:59,250 in your hands to wiretap Judge Alito, high ranking intelligence 992 00:55:59,250 --> 00:56:01,920 officers, David, trans. Barack Obama 993 00:56:02,010 --> 00:56:05,340 want to be Senator Barack Obama at that time, he wasn't even a 994 00:56:05,340 --> 00:56:10,470 senator. He had won his primary in Illinois. And I think maybe 995 00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:13,290 the catalyst and I'm not sure was the fact that he had just 996 00:56:13,290 --> 00:56:16,620 done a big speech at the Democratic Convention. All 997 00:56:16,620 --> 00:56:20,940 right, hold on a second. It's yeah, it's not on PowerPoint. 998 00:56:20,940 --> 00:56:25,440 But he is revealing information that enables al Qaeda to 999 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,330 circumvent all kinds of measures we have in place. This this he's 1000 00:56:30,330 --> 00:56:34,560 a felon and a traitor. And he's doing it with the Russians, 1001 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:40,500 literally. He's on Russia funded state media saying this 1002 00:56:40,620 --> 00:56:43,320 and the question you're asking me, let me try to guess this, 1003 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,050 but you're gonna say, why isn't somebody making a 1004 00:56:46,050 --> 00:56:48,840 fuss about this? That would be one way of phrasing. 1005 00:56:49,470 --> 00:56:52,770 Those guys on the car. Yes. Yes. Bag show. 1006 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:58,950 Yeah, do this is only to fuel the conversation. This is to 1007 00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:02,700 give the Abby Martin's who I put in the same bracket as Alex 1008 00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:06,300 Jones. She even talks the same way. Now. Let's break this down. 1009 00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:10,260 This is explosive news. She's getting worried. We watch her 1010 00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:13,500 get fat watch. It's gonna happen and she'll start selling seeds. 1011 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,340 You watch you watch. She's like, a vegan or 1012 00:57:20,340 --> 00:57:23,580 you watch you watch you watch. It's all about to happen. Well, 1013 00:57:23,580 --> 00:57:24,090 we'll 1014 00:57:24,090 --> 00:57:27,060 keep an eye on her. Okay, so let's move on with more of Tice. 1015 00:57:27,090 --> 00:57:27,450 Yeah. 1016 00:57:28,110 --> 00:57:29,520 Number two. Yeah, I 1017 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,520 guess the next question is Who is it? Who was administering the 1018 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:33,360 surveillance? 1019 00:57:33,450 --> 00:57:36,870 That's a good question. I don't know the answer to that. It 1020 00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:41,520 looked like the, the plugging in of these phone numbers was being 1021 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,320 done in the evenings at NSA. So almost, it was like being done 1022 00:57:46,410 --> 00:57:50,280 on the sly even so that most NSA employees did not know what was 1023 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,850 going on. Now a high level person at NSA told me this was 1024 00:57:53,850 --> 00:57:56,880 being directed from the Vice President office. That would be 1025 00:57:56,910 --> 00:57:59,970 Vice President Dick Cheney. I don't know that for sure. But 1026 00:57:59,970 --> 00:58:04,170 that's what I was told from a very senior person at NSA, a 1027 00:58:04,170 --> 00:58:04,680 high level 1028 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,220 Bush administration official, I guess the next question is, why? 1029 00:58:08,340 --> 00:58:12,570 Why was it being done? I mean, the first thing that comes to my 1030 00:58:12,570 --> 00:58:15,720 mind is blackmail. I don't know the answer to that either. What 1031 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,950 do you think? I mean, based on your experience, Ross. What? 1032 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,370 Because we were hanging out at the bar having a drink earlier. 1033 00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:27,600 Why is happening and spying on people like Obama judge will 1034 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,770 veto the trace 1035 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,350 they should put him in the club in the Freedom of the Press Club 1036 00:58:31,350 --> 00:58:36,120 is not Oh, Leto, it's Alito. I like oh Lido better. That's just 1037 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,640 kind of doing what we do. Now. He's like making fun of people's 1038 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,790 names. Doing a lot of what we do. Yeah. So I hear you 1039 00:58:41,790 --> 00:58:44,580 hit the word. You know, to me, I don't know for sure. But that 1040 00:58:44,580 --> 00:58:47,910 would be a means of control. If you were to look and be able to 1041 00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:50,400 listen to everybody's conversation for years on end 1042 00:58:50,430 --> 00:58:54,210 for a period of time. You could probably find out perhaps some 1043 00:58:54,210 --> 00:58:56,850 salacious information that could be used to control that 1044 00:58:56,850 --> 00:58:57,510 individual, 1045 00:58:57,540 --> 00:59:02,880 salacious, salacious, vicious information. These you said Abby 1046 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,590 steals Adams line. What is this? 1047 00:59:05,220 --> 00:59:07,590 Abby steals EMS line? 1048 00:59:07,740 --> 00:59:09,450 What's a clip I see? But 1049 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,270 I can't trust anybody. I mean, all these political politicians 1050 00:59:12,270 --> 00:59:14,670 just seemed like actors. I mean, I call these the Hollywood for 1051 00:59:14,670 --> 00:59:17,220 Ugly people. Tell what these people really think. But I 1052 00:59:17,220 --> 00:59:18,120 wanted to go into the media. 1053 00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:23,490 I call. I call DC Hollywood for Ugly people, because I heard on 1054 00:59:23,490 --> 00:59:26,160 the no agenda show, then I can't think of a single original 1055 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,750 thought myself. Yes, it's alright because we're, we're 1056 00:59:30,750 --> 00:59:33,690 raking her over the coals here. That's fine. That's fair. 1057 00:59:34,500 --> 00:59:36,030 Okay, tastes really weird, 1058 00:59:36,060 --> 00:59:37,050 but you know what she should do? 1059 00:59:37,350 --> 00:59:38,760 Here? Abby. Abby, let 1060 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,540 me give you a tip. What really works if you come out of like a 1061 00:59:42,540 --> 00:59:46,830 package, okay. With let's say someone who's a real douchebag 1062 00:59:46,860 --> 00:59:50,670 you go ahead and you say what a douchebag say it. I'm telling 1063 00:59:50,670 --> 00:59:51,990 you, your audience will love it. 1064 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,260 Yeah, they would. I think you're right. This is what I'm gonna 1065 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:56,190 hold you now. 1066 00:59:56,220 --> 00:59:59,940 Tip. You scolding you scolding me? Yeah, why? 1067 01:00:00,329 --> 01:00:03,989 This is like free consulting. You're taking money out of the 1068 01:00:03,989 --> 01:00:08,699 pockets but my child divorce consulting your child's giving 1069 01:00:08,699 --> 01:00:11,249 it away. But you got a crush on the woman. 1070 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:17,010 I'm sorry. I don't know what I'm thinking. Yes, I'm appropriately 1071 01:00:17,010 --> 01:00:17,550 scolded. 1072 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,070 Alright, tastes three. Well, I 1073 01:00:20,070 --> 01:00:22,740 have two ties three clips. So can you tell me which one you 1074 01:00:22,740 --> 01:00:26,190 want? Intel or police? 1075 01:00:27,420 --> 01:00:30,990 Okay, I think intel that this by the way, I said the Intel one 1076 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:35,190 was funny. I'll set up the Intel one. She's saying, well, if 1077 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,880 they're saying, Well, is it possible that is not Cheney, 1078 01:00:39,690 --> 01:00:43,770 although I actually liked that. Very funny. It could be the 1079 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,890 upper echelons of intelligence community. And he discusses that 1080 01:00:47,190 --> 01:00:49,830 if say it's the intelligence community, I noticed that the 1081 01:00:49,830 --> 01:00:52,680 intelligence community has not been hit with the sequester the 1082 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,850 intelligence budget, well, how was that possible? Is there some 1083 01:00:56,850 --> 01:01:00,630 kind of leverage that's being placed on our three branches of 1084 01:01:00,630 --> 01:01:04,620 government to make sure that the intelligence community is gets 1085 01:01:04,620 --> 01:01:07,680 what they want? In other words, is the intelligence community 1086 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,760 running this country? Not not our government? That's I guess 1087 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,210 that begs the question, what is there some sort of shadow 1088 01:01:15,210 --> 01:01:18,000 government at play? I mean, are we talking about the military 1089 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:18,780 industrial complex? 1090 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,390 Like Can't you say New World Order it can she say it in the 1091 01:01:21,390 --> 01:01:22,320 next 20 seconds here? 1092 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,900 What do you think as an insider and through all your research 1093 01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:27,600 and people that you've talked to? Who's running the show here? 1094 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:28,110 Ross? 1095 01:01:28,260 --> 01:01:31,860 Well, remember I don't know for sure. I just know I didn't know 1096 01:01:31,860 --> 01:01:37,350 that a whole lot of people got wiretap but I guess I would say 1097 01:01:37,350 --> 01:01:40,650 it's the it's the the upper echelon of the intelligence to 1098 01:01:40,650 --> 01:01:42,840 the intelligence community. There's running the show 1099 01:01:42,870 --> 01:01:46,080 yeah, nice choice of words. Echelon always good to use the 1100 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:50,820 throw that in and of course, we know the CIA runs the show. Da 1101 01:01:51,750 --> 01:01:55,260 and now we have the new douche from the FBI coming in coming in 1102 01:01:55,260 --> 01:01:59,100 from HSBC, the very well they 1103 01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:02,760 gotta keep everything you know, this drug the the background, or 1104 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,600 is that running drugs? That's why they don't want to legalize 1105 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,060 drugs in this country. Despite what nobody was talking about. 1106 01:02:09,060 --> 01:02:12,120 Portugal's experiment working just fine. What is it now 1107 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,660 unfortunately, they lie about it. I've seen I had clips, which 1108 01:02:15,660 --> 01:02:18,360 I haven't played but clips where this guy's are on TV. So you 1109 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,680 know, Portugal. It's a disaster and call and everybody's strung 1110 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:23,700 out on heroin. 1111 01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:25,470 Stoned man, I 1112 01:02:25,470 --> 01:02:27,330 mean, they just lie about 1113 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:32,580 this. Do you see commies? A confirmation hearing? No, but 1114 01:02:32,580 --> 01:02:33,690 play that Brasserie get rid 1115 01:02:33,690 --> 01:02:35,670 of this last time 1116 01:02:35,700 --> 01:02:38,220 tangible letter that goes to the post office. They're taking a 1117 01:02:38,220 --> 01:02:41,310 picture of everything. They're looking at the return address, 1118 01:02:41,310 --> 01:02:42,480 and they're looking at the 1119 01:02:43,350 --> 01:02:46,620 John, the guy is just a promoter. He's just out there to 1120 01:02:46,620 --> 01:02:49,740 promote and he looks at the newspaper goes, Okay, I'll say 1121 01:02:49,740 --> 01:02:52,230 that and also all right now Oh, it's crazy. Look what they're 1122 01:02:52,230 --> 01:02:54,810 doing. This guy probably never even went inside the NSA, 1123 01:02:56,370 --> 01:03:00,420 who's mailing something and that is also being digitally store. 1124 01:03:00,570 --> 01:03:04,590 So every means of communication in this country. Everything is 1125 01:03:04,590 --> 01:03:08,820 being watched by by the federal government and that is 1126 01:03:08,820 --> 01:03:11,520 Orwellian. And that is a trademark of a police state. 1127 01:03:11,550 --> 01:03:16,470 Yeah. Okay. So the fact that he's going on second rate shows 1128 01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:22,410 like Abby Martin on our tea break the set shows you I mean, 1129 01:03:22,410 --> 01:03:24,390 there's no ratings on that there's no one watching that 1130 01:03:24,390 --> 01:03:30,780 except people who want to buy seeds and us. I look at the 1131 01:03:30,780 --> 01:03:33,450 ratings. I mean, come on. This is you got it. You got to be on 1132 01:03:33,450 --> 01:03:38,070 Fox. If you're not on Fox and you're not on news. You can CNN 1133 01:03:38,070 --> 01:03:41,070 works if you're on often enough because they might repeat it. So 1134 01:03:41,070 --> 01:03:43,770 if you're on pooper show, maybe 1135 01:03:44,940 --> 01:03:46,920 not certainly not in place. 1136 01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:51,720 So we have this guy Comey. Now Comey was in the bush he 1137 01:03:51,750 --> 01:03:55,650 call me 2012. That's right. Yeah, close the movie made about 1138 01:03:55,650 --> 01:03:57,360 him. Told me 2012 This 1139 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:02,160 is the guy Exactly. Now a lot of people are looking at his 1140 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,060 history stack by the way, one of our producers is so deep on this 1141 01:04:06,060 --> 01:04:10,170 guy. And you know how the FBI runs Intel to get an edge on the 1142 01:04:10,170 --> 01:04:12,870 financial markets? Which I'm sure it's all true. He's just a 1143 01:04:12,870 --> 01:04:15,000 second really deep into that I love 1144 01:04:15,030 --> 01:04:17,550 to Yeah, once I mentioned to uh, what you mentioned on the show 1145 01:04:17,550 --> 01:04:21,480 that the real key here is just switch it all around. Don't make 1146 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,990 it about spying on people, at least just generally, but make 1147 01:04:24,990 --> 01:04:29,400 it but spying on people who are doing mergers and acquisitions. 1148 01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:32,310 Yeah, see what kind of deals what kind of deal you can get in 1149 01:04:32,310 --> 01:04:35,130 on you get to go long. I mean, these guys are walking out of 1150 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,970 the guys who have this sort of insight. They're they're walking 1151 01:04:38,970 --> 01:04:42,750 they go into a government job for 85 to $125,000 or whatever 1152 01:04:42,750 --> 01:04:47,340 they pay that that these at this echelon, they they walk away 1153 01:04:47,340 --> 01:04:49,740 with millions of dollars. How does that work? How do you make 1154 01:04:49,740 --> 01:04:52,710 so many good stock market trades when it's not your job? Now, 1155 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,460 here's what gets better with this guy. Now he was in the Bush 1156 01:04:56,460 --> 01:05:00,480 administration. He he was pretty he also approved Have 1157 01:05:00,510 --> 01:05:04,410 waterboarding people. Okay, well oversee that. It's like, well, 1158 01:05:04,410 --> 01:05:07,230 we'll let that slip by. And that's it. Yeah. It's just a 1159 01:05:07,230 --> 01:05:10,380 bunch of Arabs, you know, cares. No problem there. We're all 1160 01:05:10,380 --> 01:05:14,730 good. And there's three hours of testimony was funny. It was 1161 01:05:14,730 --> 01:05:17,820 like, it was like a like a bar mitzvah. I should have just 1162 01:05:17,820 --> 01:05:20,910 given him presents. It's like, Hey, welcome to The Club. 1163 01:05:20,970 --> 01:05:24,960 envelopes of money. Yes. taped to his jammies. Sure 1164 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:25,590 he's used 1165 01:05:26,010 --> 01:05:30,630 as well. He's on the board of directors of HSBC. HSBC, who 1166 01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:34,260 just settled for a little under $2 billion with no one going to 1167 01:05:34,260 --> 01:05:38,580 jail for laundering drug money from Mexico which is what the 1168 01:05:38,580 --> 01:05:41,550 economy is running on so I'm also I'm not against any of this 1169 01:05:41,580 --> 01:05:45,060 all power to you. It's all great. I'm fine with that banks 1170 01:05:45,060 --> 01:05:47,340 running keeps everything running and keeps everything I 1171 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,680 want to remind people out there if you want to just make sure 1172 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,650 you have a little background on this get a grant or get it off 1173 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:57,570 Netflix. Cocaine Cowboys. Yeah. And see how the banks in South 1174 01:05:57,570 --> 01:06:01,440 Florida oh my god, how they blossomed in blue. There's 1175 01:06:01,470 --> 01:06:04,110 hundreds of them making nothing but money. It's funny. Oh, the 1176 01:06:04,110 --> 01:06:06,960 whole scene dried MSNBC. 1177 01:06:06,990 --> 01:06:11,550 No, CNBC, they played that movie A couple weeks ago. No, they 1178 01:06:11,550 --> 01:06:12,330 always have like, 1179 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:17,460 yeah, it's like a psych a schizophrenic network. It's 1180 01:06:17,460 --> 01:06:21,180 like they celebrate, to during the day, they have the you know, 1181 01:06:21,180 --> 01:06:23,850 the stock market and Maria Bartiromo and all the money 1182 01:06:23,850 --> 01:06:26,190 honeys. And then at night they celebrate with shows about 1183 01:06:26,190 --> 01:06:30,810 hookers and drugs is fantastic. Like, hey, this is our other job 1184 01:06:31,230 --> 01:06:36,000 is to HSBC who got this great settlement. And he's on the 1185 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,170 board of directors and the FBI, his job is to literally stop 1186 01:06:40,170 --> 01:06:44,040 this kind of fraud. This is what they're supposed to do. So this 1187 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,620 guy is going to be in charge of his former buddies. Anyway, 1188 01:06:46,650 --> 01:06:51,720 that's fine. It makes so much sense to me. But during this, 1189 01:06:51,990 --> 01:06:55,590 this little confirmation someone has asked about it. He finally 1190 01:06:55,590 --> 01:06:58,890 gets a question from a Democratic senator, I forget her 1191 01:06:58,890 --> 01:07:01,590 name. He actually I don't have it on the clip. But she says you 1192 01:07:01,590 --> 01:07:04,470 know, my dad's a reporter. So I have to ask this question, 1193 01:07:05,070 --> 01:07:08,700 public safety, and I'm a co sponsor the free flow of 1194 01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:12,420 information act. That was the first time it was introduced, 1195 01:07:12,420 --> 01:07:15,780 and I am now to protect the freedom of the press. Can you 1196 01:07:15,780 --> 01:07:18,840 talk about your views on how law enforcement should balance one 1197 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,660 of our nation's most cherished stripes that's freedom of the 1198 01:07:21,660 --> 01:07:25,290 press and the investigations of classified information leaks, 1199 01:07:26,250 --> 01:07:29,310 they can bounce law enforcement can balance it most importantly, 1200 01:07:29,310 --> 01:07:32,880 by keeping front of mine both of those values their secrets we 1201 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,330 must keep and so we have to investigate their loss and that 1202 01:07:36,330 --> 01:07:40,050 may lead to bumping into the media. But excuse me, I bumped 1203 01:07:40,050 --> 01:07:43,440 into you with my billy club when we do those bumps we have to 1204 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,600 understand we essentially bumps 1205 01:07:45,630 --> 01:07:48,330 you know bump is basically putting cocaine on the tip of 1206 01:07:48,330 --> 01:07:50,820 your penis and inserting it annually into someone just so 1207 01:07:50,820 --> 01:07:53,580 you know a call me next time you use that phrase to what a 1208 01:07:53,580 --> 01:07:56,640 remarkable country this is, is that aggressive sometimes pain 1209 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,790 in the neck press. They're a great pain in the neck. And so 1210 01:07:59,820 --> 01:08:03,270 an enforcer has to keep both of those front of mind Enforcer. 1211 01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:06,180 And then in each case, try to work keeps using the 1212 01:08:06,180 --> 01:08:09,660 phrase front in mind in mind bump enforcer, 1213 01:08:09,690 --> 01:08:12,810 this guy is gay. So you preserve both of those values. You're 1214 01:08:12,810 --> 01:08:15,900 going to make mistakes but if you keep both front of mind I 1215 01:08:15,900 --> 01:08:16,680 think in the main 1216 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:21,270 front of mind it's in the front of mind get it right in front of 1217 01:08:21,270 --> 01:08:23,970 mine is where you have a lobotomy. So I think that's 1218 01:08:23,970 --> 01:08:25,980 probably why need to keep it there so they can remove it 1219 01:08:25,980 --> 01:08:26,640 surgically. 1220 01:08:26,850 --> 01:08:29,820 And and I'm aware of the shield legislation, I testified about a 1221 01:08:29,820 --> 01:08:32,460 different shield bill, when I was still in the government that 1222 01:08:32,460 --> 01:08:34,770 didn't have a carve out for national security, which was 1223 01:08:34,770 --> 01:08:37,260 very concerning to us. I got it this is different. 1224 01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:41,639 Yeah, didn't have a carve out a carve out carve. 1225 01:08:42,270 --> 01:08:45,270 He actually pointed out what we pointed out which is which 1226 01:08:46,110 --> 01:08:49,860 occurs this is just listen to nobody but us. But he pointed 1227 01:08:49,860 --> 01:08:52,710 out what the problem was with this bullcrap shield law. And 1228 01:08:52,710 --> 01:08:55,470 when the media goes, oh, there's gonna be a shield law. Obama's 1229 01:08:55,470 --> 01:08:59,760 idea. There's a carve out. It's not a shield law. 1230 01:08:59,820 --> 01:09:05,850 And I just need to say it hold on a second. What is that first 1231 01:09:05,850 --> 01:09:10,440 amendment right? Yeah, okay. I just want to read it so people 1232 01:09:10,440 --> 01:09:16,980 understand why this conversation by itself is unconstitutional. I 1233 01:09:16,980 --> 01:09:20,970 shall read for you again because people forget to do this. The 1234 01:09:20,970 --> 01:09:26,940 text Wow, Wikipedia. Why don't you just show the text here it 1235 01:09:26,940 --> 01:09:32,550 says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of 1236 01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:36,750 religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or 1237 01:09:37,050 --> 01:09:41,250 abridging the freedom of speech or of the press or the right of 1238 01:09:41,250 --> 01:09:45,030 the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government 1239 01:09:45,210 --> 01:09:50,100 for a redress of grievances. Again, Congress shall make no 1240 01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:55,590 law any so shield law is unconstitutional because it has 1241 01:09:55,590 --> 01:10:02,550 the word law in it. shield law. Congress shall make no law to 1242 01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:08,250 abridge the freedom of the press Done. And these people are 1243 01:10:08,250 --> 01:10:11,790 sitting there with a straight face asking these questions and 1244 01:10:11,790 --> 01:10:18,000 he's answering it that way and no one is going yeah oh wait a 1245 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,670 minute. I blow blows my mind. 1246 01:10:21,150 --> 01:10:24,720 I know it does you love this. Well, you love the Veda these 1247 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:29,040 guys are divorced boneheads This is our Congress. Yeah. Yeah. I 1248 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,010 don't know if they've read the Constitution. Yet. It 1249 01:10:32,010 --> 01:10:35,340 was really bad. Here we are an hour into the show. We have not 1250 01:10:35,340 --> 01:10:40,020 thanked our executive producers. The only reason the show was on 1251 01:10:40,020 --> 01:10:43,020 the air. So let me say right now in the morning to you John C. 1252 01:10:43,020 --> 01:10:43,710 Dvorak. 1253 01:10:44,220 --> 01:10:49,200 Well, in the morning to you, Adam curry. And I wanted to also 1254 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:53,820 say in the morning to all the ships at sea, and all the boots 1255 01:10:53,820 --> 01:10:58,920 on the ground, and all the subs in the water, and the feet in 1256 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:03,360 the air, and also the Dames and the nights out there. So I'll 1257 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,550 pick it up because you're clearly opening the spreadsheet. 1258 01:11:05,790 --> 01:11:09,330 I'd also like to thank all of our producers who showed up in 1259 01:11:09,330 --> 01:11:12,510 the chat room no agenda stream.com no agenda chat.net an 1260 01:11:12,510 --> 01:11:16,770 hour earlier today. Also, thank you Jack Blood. I think there 1261 01:11:16,770 --> 01:11:19,770 was some confusion. I'll take that on on me that I should have 1262 01:11:19,770 --> 01:11:23,280 probably mentioned it to our our crack stream team. 1263 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,690 Apparently weren't listening to the show. Well, people are 1264 01:11:27,690 --> 01:11:30,750 busy. Everyone's got a real job. John, this is all you know, 1265 01:11:30,750 --> 01:11:32,820 they're just doing stuff for us. You can't complain. 1266 01:11:33,150 --> 01:11:37,350 Do not just give I'm chiding them, chiding them, okay. 1267 01:11:37,650 --> 01:11:40,740 Anyway, we appreciate it. So what do you preach? Because it's 1268 01:11:40,740 --> 01:11:43,290 important to have the live audience who are doing the show 1269 01:11:43,290 --> 01:11:45,750 it does make a difference. It feels different. Also, thank you 1270 01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:49,770 to our artists. Thank you to Patrick boughs, provided the 1271 01:11:49,770 --> 01:11:53,460 artwork for no agenda Show episode five to eight this is 1272 01:11:53,460 --> 01:11:57,240 five to nine can't wait to see what we get at. No agenda art 1273 01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,900 generator.com. And we have I believe one or two executive 1274 01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:02,520 producers to thank today on the show. 1275 01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:09,780 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We ever make good for Michael Miller Tiburon, 1276 01:12:09,780 --> 01:12:13,890 we didn't credit him 7713 Last show IP solutions, which suppose 1277 01:12:13,890 --> 01:12:19,470 he has a note from Oklahoma City. They came in with a Will I 1278 01:12:19,470 --> 01:12:24,240 have a blank thing here on mine but I think it's okay, some 1279 01:12:24,270 --> 01:12:26,220 there's something amiss with this. For one thing, I don't 1280 01:12:26,220 --> 01:12:30,090 have a note from any IP solutions that I can find in my 1281 01:12:30,090 --> 01:12:34,950 inbox and the amount given here is, is I don't know what this 1282 01:12:34,950 --> 01:12:36,030 we'll have to move on to the 1283 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,880 is this is this just incorrect? This is something wrong on this. 1284 01:12:38,910 --> 01:12:39,630 I don't know what this 1285 01:12:39,630 --> 01:12:44,070 is. We have to move IP solutions to the Thursday show to 1286 01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,240 straighten this out. So let's start with Sir Dwayne melon song 1287 01:12:48,270 --> 01:12:51,870 totally weirdly sir Dwayne The Knights stepping up as you he 1288 01:12:51,870 --> 01:12:52,230 wanted 1289 01:12:52,230 --> 01:12:56,790 to get came at 252 52 and he of course is the Baron I guess he's 1290 01:12:56,790 --> 01:13:04,470 becoming 750 to 750 I did what I owe him sorry 752 52. I just got 1291 01:13:04,500 --> 01:13:07,350 a rat repaid for an old debt. It means I can ship in a bit more 1292 01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:11,130 this time. Hopefully this helps the doldrums of summer also gets 1293 01:13:11,130 --> 01:13:14,220 me my dukedom. So he's gonna be the Duke of 1294 01:13:14,220 --> 01:13:15,630 Oregon. Nice. 1295 01:13:17,940 --> 01:13:20,910 He defers to the peerage officer for how big a chunk of the NAFTA 1296 01:13:20,910 --> 01:13:22,230 territories I'm granted. 1297 01:13:22,620 --> 01:13:26,730 Take all you want. First come first serve this week. 1298 01:13:26,910 --> 01:13:29,880 I think I'll get we'll we'll discuss this over some email. 1299 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,610 But he'll probably end up with Jefferson. Which I think 1300 01:13:32,610 --> 01:13:34,980 would be really that's that's a nice, nice little chunk right 1301 01:13:34,980 --> 01:13:35,400 there. 1302 01:13:35,610 --> 01:13:39,990 Yeah, sir. JD of southern Silicon Valley a 529. 1303 01:13:40,349 --> 01:13:43,349 Second, did he want anything? No, he didn't want karma or 1304 01:13:43,349 --> 01:13:43,919 whatever. 1305 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,760 Let's just give him some credit. card list. 1306 01:13:48,090 --> 01:13:51,690 Absolutely. Roll it out. You've got karma. 1307 01:13:53,580 --> 01:14:00,210 Nice. So JD of southern silly silly con Valley by 2933 also 1308 01:14:00,210 --> 01:14:04,920 known as San Jose, ITM JCD and ACC Keep up the good work and 1309 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,790 the best podcasts university or some 529 plane value for value 1310 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:13,350 Thank you be the 529 club by the way. So you can keep the no 1311 01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:17,400 agenda education program running keep which is what we're doing 1312 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,000 please keep some extra special little girl yay Carmen to the 1313 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,190 producers and their families providing some real education to 1314 01:14:23,190 --> 01:14:26,160 the next generation. Accounting to follow but I believe this 1315 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:31,320 makes me the black Baron net. Sir JD of southern silly Valley 1316 01:14:31,350 --> 01:14:33,390 I thought you weren't allowed to grab a protector until your 1317 01:14:33,390 --> 01:14:33,750 Baron 1318 01:14:33,780 --> 01:14:39,240 oh he's eat no you he has his part from being a you get a 1319 01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:44,820 piece of something. I don't know. Whatever the case is, is 1320 01:14:44,820 --> 01:14:45,450 what he's got. 1321 01:14:45,480 --> 01:14:47,910 Hey, I feel good today. Just give it to him whenever he wants 1322 01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:49,050 to take it hey 1323 01:14:51,690 --> 01:14:53,400 you've got karma has 1324 01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:57,030 grown and had to start drawing up maps. Yeah, we do. We go we 1325 01:14:57,030 --> 01:14:59,310 don't want any city any internecine battles where the 1326 01:14:59,310 --> 01:15:00,120 Knights are fighting And 1327 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,840 can you imagine that would be horrible Oren Carroll 1328 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:08,400 in Seattle, Washington 3333. Other no agenda show has taught 1329 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:13,560 me how to question what I see on TV which apparently makes me 1330 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,600 question what I see on TV reading the news and hear from 1331 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,630 other people. Yes which is the real problem by the way in the 1332 01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:21,000 value for value worldwide donation does not balance with 1333 01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,100 just keep just when you talk to people about the study, they 1334 01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:26,190 just say, you know, I've listened to the clip of the guy 1335 01:15:26,190 --> 01:15:30,390 in the cockpit asking to land in Australia or Austria How is that 1336 01:15:30,390 --> 01:15:32,940 being forced down when he asked to land? 1337 01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:36,360 Yeah, that pretty much discredits every single news 1338 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:37,740 agency that there is. 1339 01:15:38,550 --> 01:15:43,380 Yeah, unless that Yeah, every single one. Yeah, I don't get 1340 01:15:43,380 --> 01:15:47,940 it. I'm going to actually tweet tweet green walled with the with 1341 01:15:47,940 --> 01:15:51,000 a copy of the clip and say What are you talking about? What does 1342 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,790 this mean? How what kind of what kind of crap are you trying to 1343 01:15:53,790 --> 01:15:54,960 pull Glenn? 1344 01:15:54,990 --> 01:15:58,230 Okay, that will be the exact words and you will get blocked 1345 01:15:58,230 --> 01:15:58,980 how fast 1346 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,580 are you think Blanche is gonna block Oh yeah. 1347 01:16:02,670 --> 01:16:06,300 Oh yeah. He's not pure. It's not pure 1348 01:16:06,929 --> 01:16:08,189 Java do this I block people 1349 01:16:09,059 --> 01:16:11,669 but you actually you actually like to respond to someone and 1350 01:16:11,669 --> 01:16:17,429 go you stuck blocked I've seen it. 1351 01:16:17,790 --> 01:16:19,920 I've seen I do that once in a while. I usually just blocked 1352 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:21,660 but sometimes I'd say block I always 1353 01:16:21,660 --> 01:16:24,330 look into if someone has like 100 followers I don't even 1354 01:16:24,330 --> 01:16:27,240 respond like Screw you. It's not 1355 01:16:29,370 --> 01:16:33,660 Varney in Apollo Pennsylvania. 333 33 is less executive 1356 01:16:33,660 --> 01:16:38,250 producer for show 529 And he says Adam a gigantic shot at 1357 01:16:38,250 --> 01:16:40,980 Carmen be greatly appreciated. Please keep up the great work. 1358 01:16:40,980 --> 01:16:42,120 Thanks, David V. 1359 01:16:42,300 --> 01:16:47,820 I think he actually wanted a shot of job karma. Gob calm and 1360 01:16:47,820 --> 01:16:52,650 right. If you're like playing jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs, let's 1361 01:16:52,650 --> 01:16:58,710 vote for jobs. Karma. Haven't played that in a while 1362 01:16:58,740 --> 01:17:01,620 now. We have rien Vaughn Reed joven 1363 01:17:01,950 --> 01:17:05,400 very good ring from right. Joven fun, right 1364 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:10,950 joven in Hercules California, the 250 Buck level he lives in 1365 01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:15,450 the depths of terror. Hercules long story used to be a dynamite 1366 01:17:15,450 --> 01:17:21,090 factory. Anyway, the town and I don't have a note from him if he 1367 01:17:21,090 --> 01:17:24,900 has something I lost it somehow in the my mail. I didn't don't 1368 01:17:24,900 --> 01:17:27,630 remember seeing it. Pass. I tried to pass this stuff. I want 1369 01:17:27,630 --> 01:17:30,840 to get it right the Eric. But we'll get back to him whatever 1370 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:34,770 he wants. Patrick Brennan in Munich, Germany. Meechan 1371 01:17:34,980 --> 01:17:40,140 Deutschland $200 In the morning, finishing my night finishing my 1372 01:17:40,140 --> 01:17:42,360 night who had this payment after Eric confirm ring still 1373 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,840 available? If no one else from Munich has taken this I'd like 1374 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:53,220 to be dressed as Sir Munch nuts. Curiously, curiously, nobody 1375 01:17:53,250 --> 01:17:54,390 else has taken 1376 01:17:54,420 --> 01:17:59,370 I was thinking of making a t shirt for myself but okay. If 1377 01:17:59,370 --> 01:18:00,930 you're if you really insist, 1378 01:18:01,140 --> 01:18:05,070 sir Munch nuts. Shout out thanks to the producers of the sheep 1379 01:18:05,070 --> 01:18:10,230 poll airport and would hope more sis admins do the same? Yes, 1380 01:18:10,230 --> 01:18:13,170 he's taking advantage of our free Wi Fi that we have offered, 1381 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:18,840 I think at least once a week, sometimes three times a week, 1382 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,500 depending on kind of the season. I get people asking me for the 1383 01:18:22,500 --> 01:18:27,180 access to the to the people airport Wi Fi, that one of our 1384 01:18:27,210 --> 01:18:29,910 producers are set up and this has now been in place three 1385 01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:33,570 years. Yeah. It's such a great rate. And people have layovers 1386 01:18:33,570 --> 01:18:36,360 for three, four hours and yeah, it's not that people don't want 1387 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:40,410 to pay for Wi Fi when this thing is like that's not segregated. 1388 01:18:40,740 --> 01:18:45,030 Fast. It's like let's see you're on it and no one else. That's 1389 01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:46,380 kind of it it's great. 1390 01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,680 Yeah, yeah, this is one of the great services that we provide 1391 01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,730 here at the no agenda show. Anyway, he says he likes some 1392 01:18:54,660 --> 01:18:58,560 job karma and he just says Keep up the good work and tells me 1393 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,160 not to let my tail feather fail or fall chopped off and you just 1394 01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:03,390 kind of a joke with the last show. 1395 01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:04,920 I get it very funny. Here you go. 1396 01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:06,480 You've got karma 1397 01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:13,050 and finally Carmen Theobald in are really Ontario Canada $200 1398 01:19:13,050 --> 01:19:16,980 And again no notes from Carmen but I want to thank them and 1399 01:19:16,980 --> 01:19:19,620 everybody we'll get to the notes if they can get us one later. 1400 01:19:19,650 --> 01:19:22,140 Yeah, I want to thank them and everyone else go to no agenda 1401 01:19:22,140 --> 01:19:25,530 show.com no agenda nation.com also and click on the donate 1402 01:19:25,530 --> 01:19:29,610 button there you go to divorce.org/n A the key support 1403 01:19:29,610 --> 01:19:33,300 site and also challenge of org.com/and A and 1404 01:19:33,300 --> 01:19:36,510 just in case you do have trouble remember remembering all the all 1405 01:19:36,510 --> 01:19:39,090 these websites is one there's one simple way we'd like to 1406 01:19:39,090 --> 01:19:39,990 program the brain 1407 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,860 for.org/and A definitely 1408 01:19:43,860 --> 01:19:47,190 go there and hook us up oops, wrong one. Sorry about that. So 1409 01:19:47,190 --> 01:19:51,060 late in the show, okay propagate the formula William. Bar formula 1410 01:19:51,060 --> 01:20:00,120 is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth And 1411 01:20:09,210 --> 01:20:14,550 I would like to mention two quick things. One, there is the 1412 01:20:14,550 --> 01:20:18,810 FCC has made you know, it's funny because the, you know, the 1413 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,540 President put out an executive order, which essentially says, 1414 01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:26,040 when a time comes I all your frequency all belongs to me. 1415 01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:30,180 Everything you've got that transmits, receives blinks. It's 1416 01:20:30,180 --> 01:20:34,620 all mine, and I can do with it, whatever I want. That's, I 1417 01:20:34,620 --> 01:20:36,630 think, pretty much a direct translation of the entire 1418 01:20:36,630 --> 01:20:39,990 executive order. And while I was looking at the regulations of 1419 01:20:39,990 --> 01:20:42,090 really what he can do, and of course, the president can do 1420 01:20:42,090 --> 01:20:46,050 quite a lot. Turns out that the FCC is making no one's really 1421 01:20:46,050 --> 01:20:51,210 talked about this. The FCC is making 1000 Low Power FM 1422 01:20:52,410 --> 01:20:59,160 stations available to nonprofits. And you can add, 1423 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,290 it's very simple that and I'll put a link in the show notes 1424 01:21:01,290 --> 01:21:05,460 under PR. You can go to the FCC website, you have to be a 1425 01:21:05,460 --> 01:21:08,580 nonprofit, which is not that hard. You just fill out some 1426 01:21:08,580 --> 01:21:13,800 paperwork. Yeah, just paperwork. And then you can become a 1427 01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:18,540 community radio station, which of course would be perfect to do 1428 01:21:18,540 --> 01:21:19,410 what, oh, 1429 01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,440 rebroadcast. No agenda show broadcast, no 1430 01:21:22,440 --> 01:21:26,130 agenda show, it would be fantastic. Imagine 1000. That 1431 01:21:26,130 --> 01:21:31,680 could be 200 per state. that would that would actually work, 1432 01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,780 John, and wouldn't you know, we could get, you know, 1433 01:21:34,290 --> 01:21:36,600 200 per stay would be a lot more than 1434 01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,860 what 200 per state would be. I know, you're right. That would 1435 01:21:40,860 --> 01:21:41,520 be 10,000. 1436 01:21:42,630 --> 01:21:46,500 But you know, start. Yeah, no, I think we get we will get maybe 1437 01:21:46,500 --> 01:21:48,000 five or six to do it. Maybe. 1438 01:21:48,900 --> 01:21:52,740 Maybe. We were talking about all these journalists. And there was 1439 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,760 a bit that obituary that came through. Are you familiar with 1440 01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:57,900 Austin Goodrich? 1441 01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,470 That name rings a bell, but I can't doesn't. I don't know who 1442 01:22:04,470 --> 01:22:05,370 it is and Goodrich 1443 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:10,260 of Port Washington who just passed away? Let me see who 1444 01:22:10,260 --> 01:22:10,560 wrote 1445 01:22:10,770 --> 01:22:13,560 that in the General Hospital soap opera, something 1446 01:22:15,660 --> 01:22:25,980 he wrote for? Let me see. Let me just see here he wrote for you, 1447 01:22:25,980 --> 01:22:29,130 boy, how come I'm not finding this? Well, let me just read the 1448 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,970 read kind of the headline. Because no one bats an eye at 1449 01:22:32,970 --> 01:22:36,210 this good rich. Combine journalism with undercover 1450 01:22:36,210 --> 01:22:40,260 service. You never know who might be a CIA agent. That was 1451 01:22:40,260 --> 01:22:43,560 the case with Austin Goodrich of Port Washington. While Goodrich 1452 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,710 was overseas during the Cold War undercover as a CBS News 1453 01:22:46,710 --> 01:22:49,860 freelance reporter and writer, almost everyone was in the dark 1454 01:22:49,860 --> 01:22:52,860 about what he was really doing. They're working for the US 1455 01:22:52,860 --> 01:22:55,380 Central Intelligence Agency and recruiting disenchanted 1456 01:22:55,380 --> 01:23:00,270 communists to help the other side. And no one says, Hmm, I 1457 01:23:00,270 --> 01:23:02,880 wonder if there's more journalists who are working for 1458 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:08,430 the CIA? instead? No hero? I'm not saying that. He's not a 1459 01:23:08,430 --> 01:23:08,940 hero. 1460 01:23:09,330 --> 01:23:12,120 Yeah, but no, well, no, you want to say as a hero because then 1461 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,030 you can encourage more people to work for the CIA because why 1462 01:23:15,030 --> 01:23:15,570 not? 1463 01:23:15,810 --> 01:23:18,810 Good, rich and native of Battle Creek, Michigan joined the CIA 1464 01:23:18,810 --> 01:23:20,970 after graduating from the University of Michigan and 1465 01:23:20,970 --> 01:23:24,300 Nancy, when they recruit you. His CIA career took them to 1466 01:23:24,300 --> 01:23:32,910 Norway, Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands. Germany and 1467 01:23:32,910 --> 01:23:37,380 Thailand. Yeah, okay. Just so you know, just so you know how 1468 01:23:37,380 --> 01:23:41,820 it works. Don't tell me that it's not happening. Don't tell 1469 01:23:41,820 --> 01:23:44,460 me that that's handled is very effective. Freedom of the Press 1470 01:23:44,460 --> 01:23:51,180 Club is not some kind of Oh, yeah. Who's buying the beers is 1471 01:23:51,180 --> 01:23:51,900 my question. 1472 01:23:53,640 --> 01:24:00,210 I think one of the I think it's funded, the beers are funded. So 1473 01:24:00,210 --> 01:24:03,480 I still have this with this battle. Go with this. This 1474 01:24:03,480 --> 01:24:07,590 brouhaha going on, which I still think is somehow targeting 1475 01:24:07,590 --> 01:24:08,250 Obama. 1476 01:24:08,610 --> 01:24:11,490 Oh, no, I think we are in agreement about that. But 1477 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,900 I'm still wondering, I still get the sense especially after 1478 01:24:15,900 --> 01:24:18,600 listening to Tyson these guys coming in at midnight, you know. 1479 01:24:19,770 --> 01:24:23,010 Let's go over to the NSA offices and run and run the thing on 1480 01:24:23,010 --> 01:24:27,960 that hot redhead we saw. Yeah, yeah, let's run that. Let's 1481 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:33,840 right, you know. That's funny. Cops and people in law 1482 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,090 enforcement generally will always run plates on the 1483 01:24:36,090 --> 01:24:36,690 hotties. 1484 01:24:37,950 --> 01:24:39,510 And let's, let's be honest. 1485 01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:47,430 So we're going to constantly so so that's what you do. I mean, 1486 01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:51,450 if you had the access to the to the terminal, at what time was a 1487 01:24:51,450 --> 01:24:55,410 good time to come in? Anytime after midnight, nobody's around. 1488 01:24:55,860 --> 01:24:59,190 Okay, so you go in there and you punch about you with a couple of 1489 01:24:59,190 --> 01:25:06,000 drunk buddies. He's got a look up, look up so and so and then 1490 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:10,140 you start listing Yeah. Oh, there's a call when he there's 1491 01:25:10,140 --> 01:25:13,830 where he's what is this? What is he calls this? His wife and then 1492 01:25:13,830 --> 01:25:17,310 he calls this other number who is Michelle? Oh, that's 1493 01:25:17,310 --> 01:25:21,630 interesting. Michelle, What's your last name? Oh, oh, does she 1494 01:25:21,630 --> 01:25:25,440 work over the agency? Yeah. Well, let's listen to the call. 1495 01:25:25,590 --> 01:25:32,010 Okay. I mean, come on people exactly what they're doing and 1496 01:25:32,010 --> 01:25:34,950 so they're, and I'm sure the blackmailing is going on and all 1497 01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:39,300 the rest of me, it's obvious to me that I mean, if they were 1498 01:25:39,300 --> 01:25:42,270 running the these machines are running, just listening in on 1499 01:25:42,270 --> 01:25:46,800 Obama in 2004. What do you think they were doing with Ross Perot, 1500 01:25:46,890 --> 01:25:50,010 this guy was, yeah, he dropped out for no good reason. Right. 1501 01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:54,630 And he dropped out for some some something weird happened there. 1502 01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:59,130 But in fact, just to remind people about the about the, the 1503 01:25:59,130 --> 01:26:03,060 angle, the the, or the blackmail angle, let's play two clips that 1504 01:26:03,060 --> 01:26:09,420 we played before. One of them is I got the holder clip is number 1505 01:26:09,420 --> 01:26:13,770 two. And the first one, which is clapper says No way I just want 1506 01:26:13,770 --> 01:26:15,870 to remind people that this happened in front of Congress 1507 01:26:15,870 --> 01:26:18,540 and nothing has come of it. So 1508 01:26:18,570 --> 01:26:22,080 what I wanted to see is if you could give me a yes or no answer 1509 01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:27,600 to the question. Does the NSA collect any type of data at all? 1510 01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:32,850 On millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? No, sir. 1511 01:26:34,140 --> 01:26:37,650 It does not. Not wittingly. 1512 01:26:38,850 --> 01:26:43,890 There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect, 1513 01:26:44,130 --> 01:26:45,510 but not not willingly. 1514 01:26:45,690 --> 01:26:48,600 You realize, John, this is a performative as taking place 1515 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,190 here you do or don't you? Yes, 1516 01:26:50,190 --> 01:26:52,860 but it's still what's called even though there's performative 1517 01:26:53,370 --> 01:26:55,590 is called perjury in most Well, 1518 01:26:55,620 --> 01:26:58,350 that depends on how you look at it, because the question is, can 1519 01:26:58,350 --> 01:27:03,660 you give me a yes or no answer? And his answer is no. The 1520 01:27:03,660 --> 01:27:05,430 question is, the question is not question 1521 01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:07,470 is, can you give me yes or no answer and he didn't come back 1522 01:27:07,470 --> 01:27:10,140 and say, Yeah, I answered the question I. 1523 01:27:10,440 --> 01:27:14,400 I said no, yes or no answer. And he did not. He gave him the 1524 01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:18,270 winningly answer. He did not. He said no to the yes or no 1525 01:27:18,300 --> 01:27:20,760 question better off of that you joined the wittingly and that 1526 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,190 kind of screws up his argue I 1527 01:27:23,190 --> 01:27:25,890 think, Okay, I think it's ruined the word wittingly forever. 1528 01:27:26,130 --> 01:27:27,120 Well, it's just one 1529 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,630 thing for sure. In any normal sense of the word, if this was a 1530 01:27:30,630 --> 01:27:33,990 baseball player talking about a steroid use, which has been 1531 01:27:34,050 --> 01:27:36,540 brought up a number of times, yeah, the guy be hauled up on 1532 01:27:36,540 --> 01:27:40,560 charges. But now, we didn't even get to that. So let let him say 1533 01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,260 what he wants. Okay. Meanwhile, of course, holder, who is a 1534 01:27:43,260 --> 01:27:48,720 much, much smarter guy insofar as he's a lawyer, he's a lawyer, 1535 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,110 lawyer. He knows the law. He's not he's not saying anything 1536 01:27:52,110 --> 01:27:55,740 about anything, especially when he can't say yes or no, but it 1537 01:27:55,740 --> 01:28:00,960 just asked, Could you show it to us that no phones inside the 1538 01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,440 Capitol were monitored members of Congress that would give a 1539 01:28:04,440 --> 01:28:07,590 future executive branch if they started pulling this kind of 1540 01:28:07,590 --> 01:28:10,200 thing off, would give them unique leverage of the 1541 01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:10,950 legislature. 1542 01:28:11,940 --> 01:28:14,550 With all due respect, Senator, I don't think this is an 1543 01:28:14,550 --> 01:28:18,300 appropriate setting for me to discuss that issue. I'd be more 1544 01:28:18,300 --> 01:28:22,890 than glad to come back in a in an appropriate setting to 1545 01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,950 discuss the issues that you have raised. 1546 01:28:28,260 --> 01:28:30,780 What does that mean? The wittingly 1547 01:28:31,500 --> 01:28:33,570 what does that so we have to realize that we're in a 1548 01:28:33,570 --> 01:28:37,530 blackmail state. Yes, the whole country is being blackmailed by 1549 01:28:38,730 --> 01:28:42,150 wine from the drunken goofballs who come and hit the terminal 1550 01:28:42,150 --> 01:28:44,850 and check out the redhead and find out where she lives. And 1551 01:28:44,970 --> 01:28:48,090 maybe they can ruin the maybe they can set it up. So they're 1552 01:28:48,090 --> 01:28:52,170 her husband dumps her by setting up some crazy ideas and a hooker 1553 01:28:52,170 --> 01:28:54,510 over there. There's all kinds of things you could do if you want 1554 01:28:54,510 --> 01:28:55,650 to get the redhead and 1555 01:28:56,610 --> 01:29:00,300 just not to gloss over it. But these things, it is real. These 1556 01:29:00,300 --> 01:29:04,770 things do happen. Look at Dominique Strauss Kahn. Yeah, he 1557 01:29:04,770 --> 01:29:08,010 was brought down as head of the IMF because of some scandal. I 1558 01:29:08,010 --> 01:29:11,490 mean, these these things do happen. And you need that and 1559 01:29:11,490 --> 01:29:15,960 from time to time you need that to happen. Yeah. And to me, Oh, 1560 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,320 good. Personally, I think it's always funny. It's like, why 1561 01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:23,310 does it matter who someone has sex with? Why does that even 1562 01:29:23,340 --> 01:29:27,780 bother you? Under blackmail? Screw him? This is the thing 1563 01:29:27,780 --> 01:29:30,540 that the society society is, you know, there's one thing to be 1564 01:29:30,540 --> 01:29:30,930 killing 1565 01:29:31,290 --> 01:29:34,350 little boys might have an issue. There may be an issue there, you 1566 01:29:34,350 --> 01:29:35,010 know, no, 1567 01:29:36,630 --> 01:29:40,770 no, hold on, hold on. Stop. No. Where's the Catholic church 1568 01:29:40,770 --> 01:29:44,640 going to jail? No, we have no problem with that. Don't give me 1569 01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:47,610 that. John. We're all the priests going to jail. Oh, no, 1570 01:29:47,610 --> 01:29:48,990 that happened 10 years ago. 1571 01:29:49,530 --> 01:29:52,170 Just get out of that group and just move it over to England and 1572 01:29:52,170 --> 01:29:54,750 look at all these crazy Old Boys Town or all this other stuff 1573 01:29:54,750 --> 01:29:55,800 that's been going on. So 1574 01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:59,190 the answer is, we don't give a rat's ass we all live and 1575 01:29:59,730 --> 01:30:02,160 die. And that's why they get blackmailed they get then they 1576 01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:03,210 do what they're told. 1577 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,620 Yeah, well, that's true. I think that the more you have in the 1578 01:30:07,620 --> 01:30:09,600 club, the better it is. Obviously, that's what you 1579 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,820 really want. You want 1580 01:30:12,539 --> 01:30:15,509 systems in place to do this. And that's the way it worked in the 1581 01:30:15,569 --> 01:30:18,989 East Germany Stasi. And it was all over there. We're done, 1582 01:30:19,019 --> 01:30:20,579 which is through the countries over. 1583 01:30:21,330 --> 01:30:26,910 I use you said you sent me an email, which is highly unusual 1584 01:30:26,910 --> 01:30:31,650 as is. Or, I mean, if it's not some bonehead chick doing some 1585 01:30:31,650 --> 01:30:34,530 stupid thing on YouTube, which you seem to get a big kick out 1586 01:30:34,530 --> 01:30:38,310 of sending me all the time. I really disliked that you'd like 1587 01:30:39,209 --> 01:30:41,519 to bust me on Oh, take a look at that. And I 1588 01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:44,580 like what I'm waiting for something to happen like some 1589 01:30:44,580 --> 01:30:47,190 guy to come in and chop her head off or something. It's just like 1590 01:30:47,190 --> 01:30:51,870 some gum chick doing like, Yeah, can you do the webcam doing as a 1591 01:30:51,870 --> 01:30:53,250 frank thing? It's horrible. 1592 01:30:53,669 --> 01:30:56,549 It's horrible. And you've never even gotten wish to make a 1593 01:30:56,549 --> 01:30:57,689 collection of these and I should 1594 01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:00,959 we should not do that. This is not that's not an outstanding 1595 01:31:00,959 --> 01:31:06,209 product. So you turned me on to something that actually just 1596 01:31:06,209 --> 01:31:08,939 freaked me out. And I think you probably got the same thing. I 1597 01:31:08,939 --> 01:31:13,379 don't know why you sent it to me or if you felt it or I don't see 1598 01:31:13,379 --> 01:31:17,819 you have the clips. So I'm glad that I can bring this up. Let's 1599 01:31:17,819 --> 01:31:22,289 first go to San Diego. And I know that you saw this because 1600 01:31:22,289 --> 01:31:25,049 this was kind of weird. This said this woman is Catherine 1601 01:31:25,049 --> 01:31:27,959 Dvorak who I'm sure is not related. She does not look like 1602 01:31:27,959 --> 01:31:28,829 she's related to 1603 01:31:28,830 --> 01:31:31,350 us. He was Kim was a camera camera Catherine but 1604 01:31:31,350 --> 01:31:33,720 you don't know her right? That's just complete coincidence. 1605 01:31:33,750 --> 01:31:36,390 Yes. A coincidence. I have. I actually do have this clip. I 1606 01:31:36,390 --> 01:31:38,250 have the you gonna play the whole way. You 1607 01:31:38,250 --> 01:31:40,710 have the no I have a little piece of the clip. I have this 1608 01:31:40,710 --> 01:31:42,510 clip. But then I have a more important clip. 1609 01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,600 Okay, I would rather I have the whole clip. 1610 01:31:45,780 --> 01:31:48,870 Do you really want I have a minute? 36 How long is yours? I 1611 01:31:48,870 --> 01:31:49,800 don't know. Take a look. Where 1612 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:53,460 is it? It's a call Hastings. Real last story. 1613 01:31:53,609 --> 01:31:55,709 Let me see your last night is I don't 1614 01:31:55,710 --> 01:31:56,430 that's not it. 1615 01:31:56,939 --> 01:32:00,299 13 seconds. Great. 1616 01:32:01,110 --> 01:32:04,980 Report from San Diego on Hastings. 3.5. Meg's 1617 01:32:05,009 --> 01:32:08,339 Oh, three minutes, four minutes. Now I've got the pertinence to 1618 01:32:08,339 --> 01:32:09,389 please, that's too long. 1619 01:32:09,660 --> 01:32:12,810 Okay. Well, I'm telling you that I want this clip in the show 1620 01:32:12,810 --> 01:32:13,410 notes, then, 1621 01:32:13,469 --> 01:32:16,559 of course, it's in the show notes. But I think what I went 1622 01:32:16,559 --> 01:32:19,049 the whole clip in the show notes. Yes. Now the whole clip. 1623 01:32:19,109 --> 01:32:22,259 I'll even play it as end of show clip if you want. If yes, you 1624 01:32:22,259 --> 01:32:25,949 decide that my piece is not pertinent to what is going on 1625 01:32:25,949 --> 01:32:29,699 this woman who is also I'm not quite sure where she's coming 1626 01:32:29,699 --> 01:32:32,879 from. And she tends to pop up kind of like as a freelance 1627 01:32:32,879 --> 01:32:35,729 reporter for the station, whenever it comes to government 1628 01:32:35,729 --> 01:32:39,419 corruption and weird stuff. And so she's reporting on the 1629 01:32:39,419 --> 01:32:43,619 Michael Hastings. He's the reporter who crashed into a tree 1630 01:32:43,619 --> 01:32:48,089 and the car brand new Mercedes Benz exploded. And so here's her 1631 01:32:48,089 --> 01:32:50,429 report. But then I want to get to the real clip, which you 1632 01:32:50,429 --> 01:32:52,229 sent. You wrote your first book, 1633 01:32:52,260 --> 01:32:53,760 I lost my love in Baghdad about 1634 01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:58,650 hold on wrong one. Oops, didn't mean to do that. Here's the San 1635 01:32:58,650 --> 01:33:00,630 Diego clip. what else what else stood out in your mind? 1636 01:33:00,660 --> 01:33:04,020 Well, the fact that when you go to the LA Police Department and 1637 01:33:04,020 --> 01:33:06,930 you guys fire department and you go to the different agencies, 1638 01:33:06,930 --> 01:33:09,210 they all said they couldn't comment. And some of them said 1639 01:33:09,210 --> 01:33:12,270 they were told not to comment on this story. So that kind of 1640 01:33:12,270 --> 01:33:15,150 stands out if you know, we look at the NSA, the government says 1641 01:33:15,150 --> 01:33:17,490 if you have nothing to hide, don't worry. I think it kind of 1642 01:33:17,490 --> 01:33:20,640 has a reverse role here. Now that I think we 1643 01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,310 have video of the scene, if we could show the video, you can 1644 01:33:23,310 --> 01:33:25,800 see what we're kind of give you an idea of what we're talking 1645 01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,140 about there is the actual scene. 1646 01:33:28,170 --> 01:33:31,440 Okay, so, so I love this way her mics off 1647 01:33:31,469 --> 01:33:34,979 as far as the accident goes and things that we do know it was an 1648 01:33:34,979 --> 01:33:40,409 extremely hot fire. And I've talked to military personnel who 1649 01:33:40,409 --> 01:33:43,889 have said that this is a extremely hot fire. I do 1650 01:33:43,890 --> 01:33:46,380 want to point out as I was listening to this, you know, I 1651 01:33:46,380 --> 01:33:50,160 have to be just as equally as fair as I am about reports about 1652 01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,580 the Sharen F trial. You know, why don't you have a quote from 1653 01:33:53,580 --> 01:33:56,070 a military personnel. I mean, that's kind of bullcrapping 1654 01:33:56,100 --> 01:33:59,220 that's just I really want to believe that but as bullcrapping 1655 01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,100 that this is not something you normally see with a car like 1656 01:34:02,100 --> 01:34:06,360 this is a 2013 Mercedes Benz. And the statement from Mercedes 1657 01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,690 said that they are aware of the accident and waiting to help the 1658 01:34:09,690 --> 01:34:12,780 LAPD but they have not got the call from Los Angeles Police 1659 01:34:12,780 --> 01:34:16,050 Department as of yet. So that intensity of the fire is very 1660 01:34:16,050 --> 01:34:16,590 concerning. 1661 01:34:16,620 --> 01:34:19,230 We're also we're just taking your word for it, but I really 1662 01:34:19,230 --> 01:34:21,510 do want to believe it. And also the placement 1663 01:34:21,510 --> 01:34:25,740 of the engine and the drive train, as we see here. They are 1664 01:34:25,740 --> 01:34:31,440 completely between 150 and 250 50 feet from the accident. 1665 01:34:31,620 --> 01:34:36,090 However the car was going south and the engine and drive caring. 1666 01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,790 Were behind it. And after I spoke with a couple of 1667 01:34:38,790 --> 01:34:42,780 university physics professors, they said in an accident like 1668 01:34:42,780 --> 01:34:46,830 this be engines and whatnot, we would go with the board. So 1669 01:34:46,830 --> 01:34:47,940 philosophy of the 1670 01:34:48,059 --> 01:34:49,769 show. What does your gut tell you in something like this? 1671 01:34:49,769 --> 01:34:52,109 You've been on a lot of news stories. What do you what do you 1672 01:34:52,169 --> 01:34:54,269 what are you looking at and where are you? Where are you 1673 01:34:54,269 --> 01:34:55,049 going with this? 1674 01:34:55,380 --> 01:34:57,870 Well, I'm looking at the positive all possibilities. I 1675 01:34:57,870 --> 01:34:59,970 mean, he could have been drinking and driving. That's 1676 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,370 Certainly something he could have done that he was near the 1677 01:35:02,370 --> 01:35:05,520 clubs on Sunset Boulevard. So that's a possibility. But I'm 1678 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,040 more inclined to believe that there were absolutely zero skid 1679 01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:10,470 marks. So something else happened either the car 1680 01:35:10,470 --> 01:35:14,700 malfunction, or something was on the car that allowed that to 1681 01:35:14,700 --> 01:35:18,060 trigger and blow up. Mercedes says their cars just don't blow 1682 01:35:18,060 --> 01:35:19,290 up. They take great 1683 01:35:19,440 --> 01:35:22,560 care has a great line, by the way, we take great care not to 1684 01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:24,180 have our cars blow up for them not to 1685 01:35:24,180 --> 01:35:27,480 do so you said something also very interesting that cars can 1686 01:35:27,480 --> 01:35:30,870 be remotely controlled is that you'd mentioned something to 1687 01:35:30,870 --> 01:35:31,410 that effect. 1688 01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:34,440 Absolutely. And that came out of the University of Southern Cal 1689 01:35:34,440 --> 01:35:38,610 art of San Diego here, they did a report in 2010, which they 1690 01:35:38,610 --> 01:35:42,750 took like a basic car like a Nissan Sentra. And using an iPad 1691 01:35:42,750 --> 01:35:46,140 like we all have here on the desk, they they were able to 1692 01:35:46,140 --> 01:35:49,950 hack into the car system and you know, operate the accelerator, 1693 01:35:49,950 --> 01:35:54,060 the brakes, windshield wipers, lights, steering. So there are 1694 01:35:54,060 --> 01:35:56,370 so many factors in play here. There's good there's a lot more 1695 01:35:56,370 --> 01:36:00,240 investigation that needs to be taken here and we'll continue to 1696 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,850 follow it obviously, if there's any kind of foul play involved 1697 01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,130 yet we want to make sure we get that out to the public. 1698 01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:10,290 Now I need to say that it sounds like she's someone who's been 1699 01:36:10,290 --> 01:36:15,120 trolling the internet banned listening to our show, as one 1700 01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:21,630 example. And and she has she has no there's nothing there. It's 1701 01:36:21,630 --> 01:36:24,780 just her saying stuff. It's kind of a collection of things that 1702 01:36:24,780 --> 01:36:27,690 we've said I think she'd put a package together now there was 1703 01:36:27,690 --> 01:36:28,680 no package 1704 01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,860 and take a picture of a guy saying sometimes things what you 1705 01:36:31,860 --> 01:36:33,420 do on TV news Yeah, common. 1706 01:36:33,450 --> 01:36:35,310 I thought that was that was very poor. 1707 01:36:35,340 --> 01:36:37,470 This is more like an editorial. Yeah, 1708 01:36:37,530 --> 01:36:41,250 I thought it was very, very poor reporting. Although the facts I 1709 01:36:41,250 --> 01:36:46,080 think we'll stand but I really don't know if the police you 1710 01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,530 know, I've said to the fire No, don't don't know if there's been 1711 01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,950 specific who told the police not to say anything who told the 1712 01:36:52,950 --> 01:36:56,700 fire department. There's a lot of holes there. Now. And you 1713 01:36:56,700 --> 01:36:59,880 sent me you actually you? You told me I needed to watch 1714 01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:03,840 something and you couldn't find the video and I wouldn't look 1715 01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:05,850 for him. Because you said all you have to watch this thing. 1716 01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:10,230 This Michael Hastings interview is really worth it. I'm like, 1717 01:37:10,230 --> 01:37:13,290 where was it until television? Yeah, somewhere. Thanks, John. 1718 01:37:13,290 --> 01:37:15,120 Really helpful. You find the link, 1719 01:37:15,900 --> 01:37:18,540 part of the divorce act tradition as as Catherine would 1720 01:37:18,540 --> 01:37:18,810 point. 1721 01:37:20,340 --> 01:37:25,020 Exactly. Well, you you've held up the family honor. So I go on, 1722 01:37:25,020 --> 01:37:29,850 I find this thing. And I, you have you really have to see the 1723 01:37:29,850 --> 01:37:33,270 video to really, truly appreciate what happens here. 1724 01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:39,690 This is the guy I forget his name who who has a show on CNN 1725 01:37:39,690 --> 01:37:43,830 and his wife sitting at the table interviewing Michael grid, 1726 01:37:43,830 --> 01:37:44,940 Hoover, by the way. 1727 01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:47,580 Who's that? That's his wife. 1728 01:37:48,090 --> 01:37:50,880 If that's if you didn't know that that was his wife, but that 1729 01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:52,560 will be sitting next year. It's his 1730 01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:56,070 wife. Yeah. And he's sitting used to be with Fox. Yeah. And 1731 01:37:56,070 --> 01:37:59,820 he's sitting with Michael Hastings and his wife. And I and 1732 01:37:59,820 --> 01:38:03,510 I heard this interview and you have to really take it into 1733 01:38:03,510 --> 01:38:08,040 context. I think Michael Hastings has been managed by the 1734 01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:13,230 CIA for many years. They've been they've kept a very tight rein 1735 01:38:13,230 --> 01:38:16,740 on what he has published, he's been completely handled. And 1736 01:38:16,770 --> 01:38:20,400 this bodes very, very poorly. For me personally, 1737 01:38:20,429 --> 01:38:23,819 you wrote your first book, I lost my love in Baghdad, about a 1738 01:38:23,819 --> 01:38:27,059 girlfriend of yours at the time who was killed in the war? How 1739 01:38:27,059 --> 01:38:28,439 much have you spoken about that? 1740 01:38:29,340 --> 01:38:32,610 mean, we've spoken about it a fair amount. I met him as a 1741 01:38:32,610 --> 01:38:36,030 friend when he was going through the aftermath of this tragedy. 1742 01:38:36,270 --> 01:38:41,220 And I got to see just you know, how horrible and just how sad. 1743 01:38:41,670 --> 01:38:42,390 You were? 1744 01:38:43,019 --> 01:38:46,229 Okay, now, let me just set this up for you. Because this is how 1745 01:38:46,229 --> 01:38:50,099 I view the world. And you may think I'm a disgusting prick. I 1746 01:38:50,099 --> 01:38:52,829 know what you're gonna say to Yeah, because this guy's wife, 1747 01:38:52,859 --> 01:38:56,039 his girlfriend dies in a horrible way in Iraq, and then 1748 01:38:56,039 --> 01:39:00,329 all sudden, this hot blonde shows up to console him. Okay. 1749 01:39:00,629 --> 01:39:03,629 And he winds up marrying her I will process that you went 1750 01:39:03,629 --> 01:39:07,919 through in terms of mourning, and then meeting Elise and being 1751 01:39:07,919 --> 01:39:09,959 open to well, yet, 1752 01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,900 I think, you know, I was very fortunate to have fallen in love 1753 01:39:12,900 --> 01:39:17,430 with an amazing woman and she was killed in this sort of in a 1754 01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:20,460 very horrible, horrific way in Iraq. I mean, this is one of the 1755 01:39:20,460 --> 01:39:23,310 other reasons why, you know, we can have this sort of 1756 01:39:23,310 --> 01:39:25,770 intellectual conversation about Iraq, and I can throw these 1757 01:39:25,770 --> 01:39:28,860 numbers out there. But at the end of the day, nothing that 1758 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,320 anyone is going to tell me really is going to change my 1759 01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:34,410 mind about how I feel deeply about about that worried because 1760 01:39:34,410 --> 01:39:36,210 of the sort of traumatic experiences he would happen to 1761 01:39:36,210 --> 01:39:39,150 her family, her friends and loved ones. I thought I thought 1762 01:39:39,150 --> 01:39:42,630 I mean, the first, the name of the book I wrote in her honor 1763 01:39:42,630 --> 01:39:44,910 was I lost my mother in Baghdad because I didn't think I could 1764 01:39:44,910 --> 01:39:48,480 love again. I was I was, you know, I feel very blessed and 1765 01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:52,650 fortunate that at least, you know, would have made and I 1766 01:39:52,650 --> 01:39:57,660 think, you know, the fact that she was able to to sort of get 1767 01:39:57,660 --> 01:40:00,210 past that is to me, you know, I feel pretty low. Okay. 1768 01:40:01,949 --> 01:40:02,999 One final note, wait 1769 01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,670 for it. Well, no, it's been misreported that Michael was 1770 01:40:05,670 --> 01:40:08,340 working on a piece about Jill Kelly at the time of his death. 1771 01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:12,000 In fact, his final unfinished story was about CIA Director 1772 01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:15,360 John Brennan. And Elise is now working on finishing that story 1773 01:40:15,570 --> 01:40:16,530 on Michael's behalf. 1774 01:40:16,710 --> 01:40:23,550 Okay. Who is at least Jordan, everybody? Well, very 1775 01:40:23,550 --> 01:40:27,180 interesting. Now, you may or may not know, The New York Times 1776 01:40:27,180 --> 01:40:31,350 published an obituary about Michael Hastings, which caused a 1777 01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:34,170 little bit of a ruckus in the press circles, because they kind 1778 01:40:34,170 --> 01:40:37,830 of discredited the work he had done on bringing down General 1779 01:40:37,830 --> 01:40:38,430 McChrystal. 1780 01:40:39,330 --> 01:40:40,740 We had clips on that right. 1781 01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:45,780 And as a response to this, at least, his new wife, who he who 1782 01:40:45,780 --> 01:40:52,590 shows up miraculously in in Iraq, and he falls in love with 1783 01:40:52,980 --> 01:40:57,840 says that she personally, she personally transcribed all of 1784 01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:03,750 the tapes that Michael did with for the McChrystal piece, so she 1785 01:41:03,750 --> 01:41:07,740 was intimately involved, and she personally transcribed them, 1786 01:41:08,430 --> 01:41:12,840 which of course, leaves a lot open to interpretation. Now she 1787 01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:19,710 is also going to personally finish the piece on former CIA 1788 01:41:22,020 --> 01:41:28,860 director. No, not Brennan. No. Brennan, 1789 01:41:29,610 --> 01:41:34,590 was it? Our betray is? No, no, no. Yes. She's working on now. 1790 01:41:34,590 --> 01:41:39,210 It's about Brennan. No, no, play that clip again. pretty lucky. 1791 01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,710 One final note, it's been misreported that Michael was 1792 01:41:43,710 --> 01:41:46,350 working on a piece about Jill Kelly at the time of his death. 1793 01:41:46,650 --> 01:41:50,010 In fact, his final unfinished story was about CIA Director 1794 01:41:50,010 --> 01:41:50,550 John Brennan. 1795 01:41:50,580 --> 01:41:55,140 I'm sorry, you're right, Ron. Regardless, she is going to 1796 01:41:55,140 --> 01:41:59,250 finish the piece on Brennan. She is also a member of the Phillips 1797 01:41:59,250 --> 01:42:05,010 foundation. Which is not to be she's a let me read her bio. At 1798 01:42:05,010 --> 01:42:07,650 least Jordan is a journalist and commentator whose writing on 1799 01:42:07,650 --> 01:42:10,320 politics and foreign policy has been published in The Atlantic 1800 01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:13,800 Newsweek Daily Beast Marie Claire blahblah. frequent guests 1801 01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:19,560 on CNN, Fox News. MSNBC also commented on BBC Fox. Oh, let's 1802 01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,320 see. She worked at the State Department as a speech writer to 1803 01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,380 Condoleezza Rice in the White House Office of presidential 1804 01:42:25,380 --> 01:42:29,100 speech writing in 2007, she joined the National Security 1805 01:42:29,100 --> 01:42:31,920 Council where she worked on pressing communication strategy 1806 01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:35,280 for Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, while at the White House at 1807 01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,530 least worked for extended periods at the US Embassy 1808 01:42:37,530 --> 01:42:40,560 Baghdad and for the commanding general strategic advisory group 1809 01:42:40,590 --> 01:42:43,920 at the International Security Assistance Force. That's ISEF. 1810 01:42:44,730 --> 01:42:49,110 She's on the board of UNICEF's next generation. She's a 1811 01:42:49,110 --> 01:42:50,310 graduate of Yale. 1812 01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:55,110 Kind of sounds like a like a like a bob woodward story. 1813 01:42:55,590 --> 01:43:01,470 She is I believe, she was Michael Hastings handler. And 1814 01:43:01,470 --> 01:43:03,330 this bodes very poorly for me. 1815 01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:07,230 Why you think Mickey's your handler? Totally one 1816 01:43:07,230 --> 01:43:10,380 bad oyster you guys have always talked about this. Oh, yeah, I 1817 01:43:10,380 --> 01:43:13,680 go too far. I go to the minute she starts taking an interest in 1818 01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:21,600 cooking I'm out this is not good. This is definitely not 1819 01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:27,090 good. So did you see you saw the number did you see the look on 1820 01:43:27,090 --> 01:43:30,480 her face? When he when she was looking at him when he was 1821 01:43:30,480 --> 01:43:35,970 talking about how she showed up? It truly disturbing truly, truly 1822 01:43:35,970 --> 01:43:38,670 disturbing I really think that she was handling him 1823 01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,920 well, whatever the case she's not handling him anymore. The if 1824 01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:48,540 that's true, I think I here's the way this should play out 1825 01:43:48,540 --> 01:43:51,240 then based on this thesis and and I'm not going to argue 1826 01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:53,880 against the thesis because I've always thought the same thing 1827 01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:01,080 she'll win a Pulitzer or some Oh journalistic award Yes. That'll 1828 01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:05,880 be really high end and for this probably the Brennan piece when 1829 01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:09,240 she finishes it and it'll come out making Brennan look like a 1830 01:44:09,540 --> 01:44:16,440 beleaguered hardworking son of a bitch and it'll be it'll have a 1831 01:44:16,440 --> 01:44:22,080 number of of kill shots on people that whoever's running 1832 01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:25,200 things now are trying to get maybe Obama 1833 01:44:26,250 --> 01:44:29,250 and are very very possible and so 1834 01:44:29,250 --> 01:44:31,740 the be Soto looks like a revealing piece but it really 1835 01:44:31,740 --> 01:44:34,260 won't have much to do with Brennan right. And it'll win 1836 01:44:34,260 --> 01:44:36,930 some sort of an award or to maybe our should get something 1837 01:44:36,930 --> 01:44:39,600 for something else that someone else will have written for her. 1838 01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:45,270 And although she probably can right and and then she'll become 1839 01:44:45,270 --> 01:44:47,220 very famous and next thing you know, she'll be on the circuit, 1840 01:44:47,220 --> 01:44:49,950 you know, and it'll be a sympathy vote for her and she'll 1841 01:44:49,950 --> 01:44:52,290 be just like, Bob Woodward should be doing big books making 1842 01:44:52,290 --> 01:44:57,000 lots of money. I was brought up I think it was vite log in 1843 01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:01,080 stack. Who brought up this, this guy who he saw, I think it was 1844 01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:05,550 stuck. This James Bamford, who is one of these characters 1845 01:45:05,550 --> 01:45:09,690 that's either, you know, just a phony stooge, or he's got a 1846 01:45:09,690 --> 01:45:12,270 whole bunch of books about the NSA. He purports to be this big 1847 01:45:12,300 --> 01:45:19,830 NSA expert. And so I'm started looking into this character. And 1848 01:45:19,860 --> 01:45:22,530 there was a couple of things in here that he's talking about. 1849 01:45:23,460 --> 01:45:27,660 That he does all these he did. He's done two or three books on 1850 01:45:27,660 --> 01:45:31,530 the NSA, I think they're just all smoke screens. And he talks 1851 01:45:31,530 --> 01:45:33,990 about how they, they're capturing everything, including 1852 01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:37,290 microwave transmissions. And that's the one that kind of got 1853 01:45:37,290 --> 01:45:40,200 me there. And he specifically goes on about how they do this. 1854 01:45:40,380 --> 01:45:43,710 Okay. Now microwave transmissions are point to 1855 01:45:43,710 --> 01:45:46,500 point. Usually, there's, you've seen these things all over the 1856 01:45:46,500 --> 01:45:48,990 place, there's one on the Bay Bridge is a good look around 1857 01:45:48,990 --> 01:45:52,260 looks like a, like a like a small satellite dish rally. 1858 01:45:52,769 --> 01:45:56,219 Where the cover on Yeah, we'd like a dome or a pointy cover. 1859 01:45:56,489 --> 01:45:58,199 Right? And you pointed at another one of these 1860 01:45:58,199 --> 01:46:02,309 transmitters and they shoot they can you can shoot maybe 40 1861 01:46:02,309 --> 01:46:03,959 miles, if you can, 1862 01:46:04,020 --> 01:46:06,480 I think you can pretty much get until the curvature of the Earth 1863 01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:09,210 hits. I mean, you if you have enough power, because of course 1864 01:46:09,210 --> 01:46:12,450 it's microwaves. So your wavelength is very short. 1865 01:46:12,809 --> 01:46:14,759 Yeah, but you need you, you wouldn't be shooting it that 1866 01:46:14,759 --> 01:46:17,729 far, nobody was just a waste of energy, you tend to Shoot it, 1867 01:46:18,089 --> 01:46:20,579 shoot it at someone's head. And that wouldn't be a waste of 1868 01:46:20,579 --> 01:46:21,239 energy. 1869 01:46:21,539 --> 01:46:24,989 It would. But the point is, is that they have limited distance. 1870 01:46:25,529 --> 01:46:31,769 But he claims he made this claim that by that the NSA has 1871 01:46:31,769 --> 01:46:36,599 satellites that are in space, and they pick up the 1872 01:46:36,599 --> 01:46:39,569 transmissions from the one microwave to another because the 1873 01:46:39,569 --> 01:46:43,019 microwave will shoot at the other the receiver and then it 1874 01:46:43,019 --> 01:46:45,569 will you know part of it will because it starts to expand a 1875 01:46:45,569 --> 01:46:49,829 little bit part of it will get passed and go into space into 1876 01:46:49,829 --> 01:46:53,369 deep space. Yeah, it's microwave and there'll be coincidentally a 1877 01:46:53,369 --> 01:46:57,599 satellite position, that perfect spot to pick up to Trenton. 1878 01:46:57,599 --> 01:47:00,629 That's not to say that there's not 1000s of these little 1879 01:47:00,629 --> 01:47:04,229 microwaves shooting every which way. Yeah. And somehow this 1880 01:47:04,229 --> 01:47:07,259 microwave transmission is going to get into space, and then get 1881 01:47:07,259 --> 01:47:11,219 picked up by the NSA and with an apparently without handshaking, 1882 01:47:11,309 --> 01:47:14,609 which is necessary for any sort of electronic communication. 1883 01:47:14,759 --> 01:47:18,089 It's just not, it's not like throwing a bucket of water into 1884 01:47:18,119 --> 01:47:21,719 another bucket of water. There's a lot of transmission that goes 1885 01:47:21,719 --> 01:47:24,089 back and forth to make sure that you're getting it you don't just 1886 01:47:24,089 --> 01:47:30,479 send stuff you have to have. Now you have to do an act somewhere 1887 01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,719 along the line, but you can there is no way a satellite 1888 01:47:33,750 --> 01:47:37,140 Hold on, hold on. Let me just any of them you cross back just 1889 01:47:37,140 --> 01:47:42,000 a little bit. You if let's say a transmitter and a receiver or 1890 01:47:42,180 --> 01:47:44,460 two transceivers are communicating and they're 1891 01:47:44,460 --> 01:47:48,840 sending an ACK, that will be an acknowledgment packet. But if 1892 01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:52,950 you go past that receiver into the curvature of the Earth into 1893 01:47:52,950 --> 01:47:56,310 space, so you're essentially behind it a little bit behind 1894 01:47:56,310 --> 01:48:00,270 and a little bit above it, you can you can still receive the 1895 01:48:00,270 --> 01:48:03,960 transmission from the original sender, you just intercepting 1896 01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,740 wallets acting with its with the other transceiver. Um, I don't 1897 01:48:07,740 --> 01:48:11,790 know how much power is going on and how far it would travel. But 1898 01:48:11,790 --> 01:48:14,520 I'm not going to dismiss it right off the bat I am. 1899 01:48:15,150 --> 01:48:17,970 It's bullshit. Not I'm not so sure. 1900 01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:21,690 I mean, I've communicated with satellites with my little with 1901 01:48:21,690 --> 01:48:24,180 my little five watts here. I mean, you can do quite a bit 1902 01:48:24,180 --> 01:48:24,780 microwaves 1903 01:48:24,780 --> 01:48:28,140 little microwave thing. Directional microwave you using 1904 01:48:28,260 --> 01:48:32,850 on your little five watts. Yeah. It's directional microwave. 1905 01:48:33,660 --> 01:48:36,330 Well, I'm receiving directional microwave the sending is just 1906 01:48:36,330 --> 01:48:37,020 you're receiving 1907 01:48:37,020 --> 01:48:41,160 a broadcast. Oh, no. It's not directional. It's not beamed at 1908 01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:45,930 you. It's it from a satellite. There is Adam over there and 1909 01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:50,010 Austin. Let's aim the satellite know the central antenna out him 1910 01:48:50,010 --> 01:48:51,180 and beam it to it. If 1911 01:48:51,180 --> 01:48:53,760 you'd let me finish, the satellite comes over it has a 1912 01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:57,330 footprint it has a quite narrow footprint and you have about a 1913 01:48:57,330 --> 01:49:00,660 five minute window to communicate with it. It's not 1914 01:49:00,660 --> 01:49:04,230 specifically pointed at me but it is pointed at a it has a 1915 01:49:04,230 --> 01:49:06,900 footprint that it is sending down but that's sending down I'm 1916 01:49:06,900 --> 01:49:11,400 sending up purely for non directional antenna. I'm sending 1917 01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:15,270 up from a vertical polarized antenna and it's it's getting to 1918 01:49:15,270 --> 01:49:18,480 me I mean, there's a lot there's a lot about RF Be careful. I 1919 01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:19,530 know a lot about RF 1920 01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:22,830 I know about RF too. And I know that this was bull crap, would 1921 01:49:22,830 --> 01:49:26,040 they say that it's got a transmission from Union oil in 1922 01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:29,130 San Francisco hitting a little pot over here over by the 1923 01:49:29,130 --> 01:49:33,720 refinery. And somehow and by the way, these things are like 40 1924 01:49:33,930 --> 01:49:36,900 feet above the ground. Somehow this thing is gonna go all the 1925 01:49:36,900 --> 01:49:39,300 way through the Earth's atmosphere all the way past 1926 01:49:39,450 --> 01:49:42,960 where the earth curvature of the earth begins. That's the space 1927 01:49:43,050 --> 01:49:45,570 where coincidentally there's a satellite waiting there to 1928 01:49:45,570 --> 01:49:49,050 listen somehow been positioned there. If you're repositioning 1929 01:49:49,050 --> 01:49:51,660 the satellites to listen in and all this crap, these things are 1930 01:49:51,660 --> 01:49:54,750 going to be dead no time because they had needle rockets to move 1931 01:49:54,750 --> 01:49:55,110 them around. 1932 01:49:55,410 --> 01:49:57,990 First of all, they have enough of them. You know that the 1933 01:49:57,990 --> 01:50:00,750 entire low Earth orbiting satellite It ring that was 1934 01:50:00,750 --> 01:50:04,410 supposed to be that great phone sat, sat phone system was bought 1935 01:50:04,410 --> 01:50:09,180 up. So you can easily use the low the low orbiting satellites 1936 01:50:09,180 --> 01:50:12,450 for that there's enough of them. And yeah, I mean, I've 1937 01:50:12,450 --> 01:50:16,680 communicated on. Yes, a longer wavelength, but I get around the 1938 01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:20,460 earth with 200 milliwatts. So yeah, yeah, I have seen a lot of 1939 01:50:20,460 --> 01:50:23,040 things that are possible. And I'm not going to say it is 1940 01:50:23,070 --> 01:50:26,340 impossible. I'm just not impossible. No, I think I think 1941 01:50:26,340 --> 01:50:28,860 you're incorrect in this and I think I have more experience. I 1942 01:50:28,860 --> 01:50:30,270 don't care about your experience. 1943 01:50:30,270 --> 01:50:35,040 You're really oblivious to directional microwave. These 1944 01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:36,180 repeaters that are no I'm 1945 01:50:36,180 --> 01:50:39,780 not, I'm not. I'm very clued into it, which is why I'm saying 1946 01:50:39,780 --> 01:50:42,420 I think that you can get some scatter from the back end. I 1947 01:50:42,420 --> 01:50:45,120 think it would be possible. I'm not ruling that out. I'm not 1948 01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:48,120 saying you can do it with accuracy every single day. I'm 1949 01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:50,370 not saying that. It will always work. It depends on a lot of 1950 01:50:50,370 --> 01:50:52,680 factors which you don't know either, including 1951 01:50:54,390 --> 01:50:56,340 one of our experts out there as women 1952 01:50:56,340 --> 01:50:58,530 I am an expert. What are you talking about? 1953 01:50:58,530 --> 01:51:02,310 You're not you don't run a satellite business. Let's get 1954 01:51:02,310 --> 01:51:06,120 somebody who runs like this. Watch me shut off your DIRECTV 1955 01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,100 reality of this bullcrap. 1956 01:51:08,490 --> 01:51:11,640 All right. We can we kind of sure in the 1957 01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:13,650 lab, anything's possible. Now, 1958 01:51:13,710 --> 01:51:17,010 I'm saying that I think it's possible. But okay, it doesn't. 1959 01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:23,610 It's irrelevant. I name it. I don't even know why it's such a 1960 01:51:23,610 --> 01:51:24,210 big deal. 1961 01:51:24,540 --> 01:51:27,600 I just find it because we have another poser out there. 1962 01:51:27,900 --> 01:51:30,060 I will. Okay, well, they're all posers. 1963 01:51:33,540 --> 01:51:35,940 Okay, I have the clip of the day, then we're just go to that. 1964 01:51:36,690 --> 01:51:39,480 Okay. I'm ready. All right. So 1965 01:51:39,480 --> 01:51:42,930 here you we've talked about this on the show before. Do you 1966 01:51:42,930 --> 01:51:45,780 remember the radio days it sends you a record, usually big 1967 01:51:45,780 --> 01:51:49,200 transcription record and they end in a script? Yeah. And 1968 01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:52,200 then you ask the questions. And then you just basically cut in 1969 01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:54,660 the answer. So it sounds like you do it. I've done this on 1970 01:51:54,660 --> 01:51:55,350 television. You 1971 01:51:55,350 --> 01:51:56,610 do it on, you can do it live. 1972 01:51:57,150 --> 01:52:01,380 I actually I've done it live. I'll just repeat it for people 1973 01:52:01,380 --> 01:52:04,380 who haven't heard it. When I was doing the program countdown in 1974 01:52:04,380 --> 01:52:10,770 the Netherlands. This is 1984 8384 Janet Jackson sent out 1975 01:52:10,770 --> 01:52:14,610 a press kit. It was a big pneumatic tape where someone 1976 01:52:14,610 --> 01:52:17,250 asked her questions and then they left a little pause and she 1977 01:52:17,250 --> 01:52:22,920 answered the questions and I time I cut together take of her 1978 01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,410 answers. And I timed My question is we even put a little bit of 1979 01:52:25,410 --> 01:52:28,560 satellite fuzz in there that was before Digital's like we're Sra. 1980 01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:33,480 Janet, we're losing you. And that was my my satellite 1981 01:52:33,480 --> 01:52:38,400 interview as promoted as such in the Dutch newspapers. That said, 1982 01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:41,610 Adam curry has a satellite interview tonight with Janet 1983 01:52:41,610 --> 01:52:43,410 Jackson and the whole thing was fake. 1984 01:52:44,550 --> 01:52:47,340 And the you think they're doing this at Fox? 1985 01:52:49,050 --> 01:52:50,550 No, I can't believe that. 1986 01:52:52,050 --> 01:52:56,490 So here's a little tidbit with an interview with the substitute 1987 01:52:56,490 --> 01:53:00,390 host for Hannity who I think, picked up the wrong question. 1988 01:53:01,020 --> 01:53:05,070 And Rand Paul, and Rand Paul is not having any difficulty 1989 01:53:05,070 --> 01:53:08,790 hearing. He's listening to everything. And there's not like 1990 01:53:08,790 --> 01:53:12,750 a bad connection or effect is the fact that it's surprisingly 1991 01:53:12,750 --> 01:53:16,710 tight satellite or whatever connection or using ISDN. 1992 01:53:16,710 --> 01:53:21,030 Whatever. Listen, listen carefully to the question and 1993 01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:22,350 listen carefully to the answer. 1994 01:53:23,940 --> 01:53:26,700 Senator, let's talk about leadership very quickly. I have 1995 01:53:26,700 --> 01:53:29,820 a lot of time for a move on. Secretary of State John Kerry 1996 01:53:30,030 --> 01:53:33,450 was said to be yachting during this military coup going on. And 1997 01:53:33,450 --> 01:53:35,850 then two days later, while the bloodshed was happening in 1998 01:53:35,850 --> 01:53:38,940 Cairo, President Obama hid the links at the golf course, your 1999 01:53:38,940 --> 01:53:43,440 thoughts? Well, you know, I've asked Secretary Kerry directly 2000 01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:46,950 about this. And I said, I asked him, should foreign aid be 2001 01:53:46,950 --> 01:53:50,580 dependent on behavior? And he said, No. And if you're not 2002 01:53:50,580 --> 01:53:53,250 going to make it dependent on behavior, what kind of leverage 2003 01:53:53,250 --> 01:53:55,620 do you have with these countries? If they think we're a 2004 01:53:55,620 --> 01:53:58,890 sap, and we're gonna continue to give them money no matter what 2005 01:53:58,890 --> 01:54:01,860 they do, they're just gonna laugh at us as they cash their 2006 01:54:01,860 --> 01:54:04,980 check. And that's why I disagree with President Obama and 2007 01:54:04,980 --> 01:54:07,980 Secretary Kerry that really, if you're gonna give money at all, 2008 01:54:07,980 --> 01:54:10,800 it's probably not a good idea. But if you're gonna give it, it 2009 01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,740 should be dependent on behavior at the very least. Alright, 2010 01:54:13,740 --> 01:54:15,600 Senator, one quick question. I want to get in here before we 2011 01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:18,990 let you go Obamacare, the delay to 2015 for the employer 2012 01:54:18,990 --> 01:54:19,470 mandate. 2013 01:54:19,710 --> 01:54:23,130 That's good. That's good. Well, it's and that's a very nice 2014 01:54:23,130 --> 01:54:28,350 transition. I spent some time watching Jen Psaki, which you 2015 01:54:28,350 --> 01:54:34,260 spell PS Aki, but I've learned her name is Jen Psaki. You know, 2016 01:54:34,260 --> 01:54:34,530 Jen 2017 01:54:34,530 --> 01:54:37,980 Psaki is a Gen Misaki that's our favorite not Misaki 2018 01:54:37,980 --> 01:54:39,300 it's sucky You don't say? 2019 01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:42,330 Whatever you want. I'm calling her pisaq Do you know anything 2020 01:54:42,330 --> 01:54:46,980 about her? Yeah, she's never worked for a living in her life. 2021 01:54:47,010 --> 01:54:48,180 Oh, I 2022 01:54:48,180 --> 01:54:52,800 think you're wrong. Okay, Iran Sheetal. So this is very 2023 01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:54,090 interesting. Jen delay this. 2024 01:54:54,870 --> 01:54:56,250 She is I mean, you're well, I'm 2025 01:54:56,250 --> 01:54:59,100 gonna I'm going to play a little clip here so you can hate her. 2026 01:54:59,460 --> 01:55:02,310 She is the The spokes hold for the Secretary of State don't 2027 01:55:02,310 --> 01:55:05,910 have anything at the top. I imagine what made oh and our 2028 01:55:05,910 --> 01:55:07,620 shots back to what a day. 2029 01:55:08,220 --> 01:55:11,640 What a day. What a day a whole. 2030 01:55:11,670 --> 01:55:13,620 She is very condescending, 2031 01:55:13,650 --> 01:55:23,430 Jen Psaki. See, suck a soccer. She works for Kerry, when he had 2032 01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:27,150 his presidential run. Then she can't I'm looking for her. I 2033 01:55:27,150 --> 01:55:33,840 have her wiki page somewhere. Then she came back in. Two, she 2034 01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:37,740 was the President Obama's spokes hole on the road during his 2035 01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:42,150 initial presidential campaign. And then she left and she went 2036 01:55:42,150 --> 01:55:47,700 to the Global Strategy Group, where her clients were, oh, gee, 2037 01:55:47,700 --> 01:55:53,760 let me see. Oh, General Electric, Al Gore, 2038 01:55:53,790 --> 01:55:58,650 GlaxoSmithKline, Goldman Sachs, Microsoft, Silverstein partner 2039 01:55:58,650 --> 01:56:04,440 Starwood. So she is a professional spokes hole, who 2040 01:56:04,470 --> 01:56:09,060 used her government contacts, clearly, to get this cushy gig 2041 01:56:09,060 --> 01:56:13,590 over there at Global Strategy Group. But she is having a very, 2042 01:56:13,590 --> 01:56:17,790 very hard time of late because not only is our buddy Matt 2043 01:56:17,820 --> 01:56:23,070 teaming up on her, but also the guy she just mentioned in that 2044 01:56:23,070 --> 01:56:28,170 clip, a shot Muhammad she has, you're here, because she's 2045 01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:31,320 afraid of these guys, because these guys are taken new 2046 01:56:31,530 --> 01:56:35,520 prisoners. And it was I thought it was a very, very funny back 2047 01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:42,030 and forth. On this whole Can we call it a coup or not? And 2048 01:56:42,030 --> 01:56:45,270 there's a reason why the administration does not want to 2049 01:56:45,270 --> 01:56:49,530 call what has happened in Egypt a coup. And that is because by 2050 01:56:49,530 --> 01:56:55,020 law in the Foreign Assistance Act, I think is that what it's 2051 01:56:55,020 --> 01:57:00,690 called when you see it's called the foreign? No, I have it here 2052 01:57:00,690 --> 01:57:07,500 somewhere. Foreign, I think it is Foreign Assistance Act, which 2053 01:57:07,950 --> 01:57:13,920 again, on May 23, was set up by the President. This is how this 2054 01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:17,910 how slick this guy is. So if there was a transition of power 2055 01:57:17,940 --> 01:57:22,560 of what we would call a coup, then the the all foreign 2056 01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:25,860 assistance, according to the United States law has to stop 2057 01:57:25,890 --> 01:57:29,670 immediately has to be suspended at the very least because we're 2058 01:57:29,670 --> 01:57:34,800 not dealing with the same people. And here is her answer 2059 01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:38,730 to that. Because you know, running a democracy if you've 2060 01:57:38,730 --> 01:57:41,610 been it's not just being chosen, John, you have to understand 2061 01:57:42,510 --> 01:57:45,510 whether you when when does it determine if you're what 2062 01:57:45,510 --> 01:57:48,330 determines if you if you're a democratically chosen leader? If 2063 01:57:48,330 --> 01:57:52,140 you really are a good guy? I mean, it was somebody voted. Is 2064 01:57:52,140 --> 01:57:54,840 there anything else that could be a part of that? Oh, you sure 2065 01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:55,860 there's nothing else? 2066 01:57:56,309 --> 01:57:59,849 Well, you have to Oh, yeah, you have to do things democratic. 2067 01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:06,330 Means clarify. So when you say that, sorry. When you when you 2068 01:58:06,330 --> 01:58:10,650 say that you're engaging them to accept the process towards a 2069 01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:15,210 civilian, political. So are you are you asking them to kind of 2070 01:58:15,210 --> 01:58:19,800 abandon their fight to get Morsi back into power, or to accept 2071 01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:20,670 his ouster. 2072 01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:24,630 That's not a determination for us to make, we're asking them to 2073 01:58:24,630 --> 01:58:27,690 engage in the process, moving forward from here, 2074 01:58:28,740 --> 01:58:34,170 did engage in the process, they can their candidate one. And now 2075 01:58:34,170 --> 01:58:37,800 their candidate is not the winner. Now their candidate is 2076 01:58:37,950 --> 01:58:42,690 the loser, and he is the loser because he was ousted by the 2077 01:58:42,690 --> 01:58:47,640 military. Why should they engage in the process? Again, if they 2078 01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:50,100 did it the first time, and essentially got screwed? 2079 01:58:50,460 --> 01:58:53,760 Well, I know I said this, so many times, people were tired of 2080 01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:57,480 it on Wednesday, and that a democratic process is not just 2081 01:58:57,480 --> 01:59:02,280 about casting your ballot. There are other factors in terms of in 2082 01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:07,710 addition to that, including how somebody behave, and how they 2083 01:59:07,710 --> 01:59:08,220 govern. 2084 01:59:08,490 --> 01:59:12,510 There you go. It's not just if you were chosen this exactly. 2085 01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:15,720 This is how they think, oh, it's not just about getting chosen. 2086 01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:18,930 Oh, no. It's about how you govern if you're a nice guy or 2087 01:59:18,930 --> 01:59:22,470 not. And Matt is having none of this. It's really fun. Is 2088 01:59:22,500 --> 01:59:25,530 curl. So correct after you responded? Yes, that it is 2089 01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:28,170 continued aid is in the US national security interests. So 2090 01:59:28,260 --> 01:59:32,580 that's one number two, is a coup to try a determinate legal 2091 01:59:32,790 --> 01:59:36,540 determination that a coup happened would require a 2092 01:59:36,570 --> 01:59:40,560 suspension or cut off in all non humanitarian systems to Egypt, 2093 01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:43,500 including the 1.3 billion and FMF. Is that correct? 2094 01:59:43,980 --> 01:59:47,040 Well, Matt, because we're not there. We haven't made that 2095 01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:47,940 determination. No, 2096 01:59:47,970 --> 01:59:51,990 but the determinate that that determination would trigger a 2097 01:59:52,020 --> 01:59:55,800 cut off or suspension of the of the assistance, is that correct? 2098 01:59:56,310 --> 01:59:59,490 Again, I don't want to be analyzing what the legal options 2099 01:59:59,490 --> 02:00:02,250 are here. As that is being closely looked at, there are a 2100 02:00:02,250 --> 02:00:05,070 number of factors that are being closely looked at. I know we'll 2101 02:00:05,070 --> 02:00:08,970 continue to talk about this in the days ahead, but I'm not 2102 02:00:08,970 --> 02:00:09,960 going to get ahead of where we are. 2103 02:00:10,530 --> 02:00:14,640 I'm not asking you to get ahead of anything. Anything I'm asking 2104 02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:18,210 you just to just to confirm what the law says, which is that if 2105 02:00:18,210 --> 02:00:22,440 there is a determination that a coup happened, that a 2106 02:00:22,770 --> 02:00:25,080 democratically elected government was overthrown, 2107 02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:30,270 unconstitutional means that that would require a suspension or 2108 02:00:30,270 --> 02:00:32,130 cut off in assistance. 2109 02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:36,870 Well, that is that is that is, there is a broad legal 2110 02:00:36,870 --> 02:00:37,470 definition. 2111 02:00:37,830 --> 02:00:41,940 Don't you love this? I love how'd you like? Well, 2112 02:00:41,970 --> 02:00:43,680 this is doing really well at this. 2113 02:00:44,190 --> 02:00:47,940 Please, Oh, please, this is fine. I'm enjoying her. Oh, this 2114 02:00:47,940 --> 02:00:50,910 is wonderful to watch. And she had a she's a redhead, which of 2115 02:00:50,910 --> 02:00:53,880 course, you know, unfortunately, mean, she has no soul. But that 2116 02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:57,630 doesn't matter. She's also wearing a fire red jacket to go 2117 02:00:57,630 --> 02:00:58,110 with it. It's 2118 02:00:58,110 --> 02:01:01,440 just it's really funny what Colin built in many cases. 2119 02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:04,470 Right, Matt? But we're also looking at what happened here on 2120 02:01:04,470 --> 02:01:07,680 the ground. There are millions of people on the ground who do 2121 02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:09,630 not think it's who it was a coup was. 2122 02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:14,220 Their explanation here is, yeah, sure. The military came in and 2123 02:01:14,250 --> 02:01:16,860 arrested him. But you know, we have lots of people on the 2124 02:01:16,860 --> 02:01:19,710 ground who don't think that happened or something like that. 2125 02:01:19,710 --> 02:01:20,280 They factor 2126 02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:24,630 lots of factors in we're in the analysis process right now. And 2127 02:01:24,630 --> 02:01:27,060 I'm not going to get ahead of where that may or may not go 2128 02:01:27,060 --> 02:01:27,360 what 2129 02:01:27,360 --> 02:01:29,910 what is the fact that there are lots of people on the ground in 2130 02:01:29,910 --> 02:01:33,450 Egypt who don't think it was a coup have any bearing on this? I 2131 02:01:33,450 --> 02:01:36,300 mean, the determination is not being made by people on the 2132 02:01:36,300 --> 02:01:38,670 ground in Egypt. The determination, as Matt rightly 2133 02:01:38,670 --> 02:01:42,300 pointed out, is normally made by the legal advisors office at the 2134 02:01:42,300 --> 02:01:43,110 State Department, 2135 02:01:43,260 --> 02:01:46,230 and through an interagency process ourselves that of 2136 02:01:46,230 --> 02:01:51,000 course, takes a lot of miners into play. Newland, 2137 02:01:52,410 --> 02:01:54,780 you can listen all these clips, I haven't been in the show 2138 02:01:54,780 --> 02:01:58,890 notes. This was kind of funny. There's, there's like two little 2139 02:01:58,950 --> 02:02:02,190 things here. This is Matt is going to throw a zinger at her 2140 02:02:02,190 --> 02:02:03,360 first one last 2141 02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:06,210 thing I want to ask you about the current president. 2142 02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:11,970 President. Now he's coming. He's coming out of Egypt currently. 2143 02:02:12,389 --> 02:02:15,809 He's the interim, as you know, beyond that, I don't have a 2144 02:02:15,809 --> 02:02:18,689 further definition for you. Obviously, there'll be our hope 2145 02:02:18,689 --> 02:02:19,799 is that there are elections? 2146 02:02:20,309 --> 02:02:24,569 And just Will you let us know when the heat from the flames of 2147 02:02:24,569 --> 02:02:27,449 the burning hoops that you're jumping through to avoid taking 2148 02:02:27,449 --> 02:02:30,749 a position on this get too hot? For will that just be obvious? 2149 02:02:31,620 --> 02:02:34,560 Just let me know when the flames of doubt. And then she comes 2150 02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:35,640 back later with this one? 2151 02:02:35,670 --> 02:02:38,880 Is it your view that the law on the law into spending eight of 2152 02:02:39,450 --> 02:02:43,620 your determination of who is made of a coup was made is is 2153 02:02:43,620 --> 02:02:48,060 able to be interpreted that it can be interpreted is not the 2154 02:02:48,060 --> 02:02:53,430 right word. That that there it is open to interpretation? Well, 2155 02:02:53,730 --> 02:02:58,950 that if a that if it is possible under the law, that if a 2156 02:02:58,950 --> 02:03:03,540 democratically elected president is removed by a military in an 2157 02:03:03,540 --> 02:03:08,040 unconstitutional manner, it might not meet the standard, the 2158 02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:08,310 legal 2159 02:03:08,400 --> 02:03:11,700 mat, let me just be very clear that our focus is absolutely on 2160 02:03:11,700 --> 02:03:15,930 abiding by the law that is being analyzed and looked at right 2161 02:03:15,930 --> 02:03:19,500 now. There are also a number of other factors that go into our 2162 02:03:19,500 --> 02:03:22,920 policy related to Egypt. So I didn't want to do one without 2163 02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:23,220 the other. 2164 02:03:23,220 --> 02:03:25,710 Okay, so that just leads me to believe that you're not, 2165 02:03:26,340 --> 02:03:28,830 particularly in this case, and you say it's a case by case 2166 02:03:28,830 --> 02:03:31,530 basis. But in this case, you're not particularly interested in 2167 02:03:31,830 --> 02:03:34,830 interpreting the law as it is written, you're interested in 2168 02:03:35,130 --> 02:03:36,570 trying to find a way to skirt. 2169 02:03:38,070 --> 02:03:41,790 The legal offense is certainly determining and analyzing the 2170 02:03:41,790 --> 02:03:42,330 law as 2171 02:03:42,330 --> 02:03:43,620 it is written, let us know 2172 02:03:45,810 --> 02:03:49,020 your own analysis and I'm not a lawyer, and I'm not aware that 2173 02:03:49,020 --> 02:03:52,080 you are either, but you never know of any more. 2174 02:03:55,980 --> 02:03:57,930 To me, is humor. I mean, I watched this. 2175 02:03:58,889 --> 02:04:01,559 I know I'm not a lawyer. I know you're not a lawyer, but you 2176 02:04:01,559 --> 02:04:02,129 never know 2177 02:04:02,130 --> 02:04:04,470 you never know our lawyer. You could be a lawyer. I could be 2178 02:04:04,470 --> 02:04:07,620 completely wrong. I may have misjudged that. I mean, this is 2179 02:04:07,620 --> 02:04:11,580 so beautiful. And then Kearney spokes hold Carney for the White 2180 02:04:11,580 --> 02:04:14,220 House, he this guy has no shame 2181 02:04:14,250 --> 02:04:17,760 in a should bumping her up to carnies job. Well, here's 2182 02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:20,520 Kearney and he jumps through the hoops in a different way. 2183 02:04:20,879 --> 02:04:24,839 Well, you're correct that the President has been meeting 2184 02:04:24,959 --> 02:04:29,519 regularly with his national security team about the 2185 02:04:29,519 --> 02:04:36,269 situation in Egypt. You're also correct, as I said yesterday, 2186 02:04:36,269 --> 02:04:41,849 that we have not made a determination about what to call 2187 02:04:41,849 --> 02:04:47,489 or label the events in Egypt that led to the change in 2188 02:04:47,489 --> 02:04:48,269 government. You can't 2189 02:04:48,270 --> 02:04:51,060 say you can't say Kuzey this thing the minute he says cool, 2190 02:04:51,090 --> 02:04:53,970 then it's all over then all the money dries up so he can't say 2191 02:04:53,970 --> 02:04:55,080 it air. What can we and 2192 02:04:55,080 --> 02:05:00,060 I tried to be very straightforward about the The 2193 02:05:00,060 --> 02:05:02,820 elephant in the room, if you will, by saying, I'm trying to 2194 02:05:02,820 --> 02:05:08,520 be straightforward about the elephant in the room. Just say 2195 02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:09,090 cool. 2196 02:05:09,090 --> 02:05:11,280 I think there's an elephant in the room here. And it is in our 2197 02:05:12,390 --> 02:05:15,600 national interests, best interests of the United States. 2198 02:05:16,410 --> 02:05:18,600 And the best interests in our view, Oh, shut 2199 02:05:18,600 --> 02:05:21,750 up. Here's McCain. McCain calls that as he sees it bluntly, 2200 02:05:21,810 --> 02:05:24,540 simply was that a coup that we saw last week. 2201 02:05:26,070 --> 02:05:30,420 It was a coup. And it was, say the second time in two and a 2202 02:05:30,420 --> 02:05:31,020 half years. 2203 02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:33,360 All right, thank you, John McCain. So you know that when 2204 02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:36,300 the McCain is always on the money side, so he there's 2205 02:05:36,300 --> 02:05:40,560 something going on with this, that he calls it a coup. But 2206 02:05:40,560 --> 02:05:45,570 again, I go back, I go back to May 23. And our our president 2207 02:05:45,570 --> 02:05:48,960 slickest guy ever he's really slick Willie can dry up and blow 2208 02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:54,090 away because Obama is slick. What did he say? I mean, this 2209 02:05:54,090 --> 02:05:56,760 was like such an issue, you have to go back to these things all 2210 02:05:56,760 --> 02:06:00,900 the time. So the President was talking about mainly drone 2211 02:06:00,900 --> 02:06:04,500 strikes, he threw in the Snowden thing, right, as we heard 2212 02:06:04,500 --> 02:06:07,650 earlier, but he also threw this and out of the blue for no 2213 02:06:07,650 --> 02:06:08,400 reason. 2214 02:06:08,790 --> 02:06:15,240 But it will also require resources. I know that foreign 2215 02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:21,120 aid is one of the least popular expenditures, that there is, 2216 02:06:22,230 --> 02:06:24,240 there was even I didn't even understand why he was talking 2217 02:06:24,240 --> 02:06:26,820 about this at the time, this just he just threw this in 2218 02:06:26,820 --> 02:06:30,240 there. We didn't even notice it, he was talking about foreign 2219 02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:30,540 aid. 2220 02:06:30,780 --> 02:06:33,930 That's true for Democrats and Republicans. I've seen the 2221 02:06:33,930 --> 02:06:39,450 polling, even though it amounts to less than 1% of the federal 2222 02:06:39,450 --> 02:06:42,600 budget. In fact, a lot of folks think it's 25%. If you ask 2223 02:06:43,350 --> 02:06:47,100 people on the streets, less than 1%, 2224 02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:51,180 still Tahiry here he is really setting up the importance of 2225 02:06:51,180 --> 02:06:55,650 foreign aid foreign assistance to mainly to Egypt and how we 2226 02:06:55,650 --> 02:06:59,520 cannot have a strategy without this regardless of what happens 2227 02:06:59,520 --> 02:06:59,850 so 2228 02:06:59,880 --> 02:07:03,870 wildly unpopular, but foreign assistance cannot be viewed as 2229 02:07:03,870 --> 02:07:10,740 charity. It is fundamental to our national security. And it's 2230 02:07:10,740 --> 02:07:13,590 fundamental to any sensible long term strategy to battle 2231 02:07:13,590 --> 02:07:20,700 extremism. Moreover, foreign assistance is a tiny fraction of 2232 02:07:20,700 --> 02:07:25,230 what we spend fighting wars that our assistance might ultimately 2233 02:07:25,260 --> 02:07:25,800 prevent. 2234 02:07:26,820 --> 02:07:28,440 He didn't segue into this, 2235 02:07:28,769 --> 02:07:32,849 I don't remember. I mean, I, I had to go look it up. It wasn't 2236 02:07:32,909 --> 02:07:36,179 it was it just came out of the blue. This guy, 2237 02:07:36,210 --> 02:07:38,520 I'm telling you, if somebody lost a page, 2238 02:07:39,480 --> 02:07:43,200 I'm telling you that everything that is happening, and we're now 2239 02:07:43,230 --> 02:07:47,010 like eight weeks later, he had he discussed in this speech, 2240 02:07:47,220 --> 02:07:52,440 we've got the Snowden thing, we've got the Egypt thing. All 2241 02:07:52,440 --> 02:07:56,520 of this stuff is just they set it up. It truly is a script 2242 02:07:56,550 --> 02:07:59,430 unfolding right before our very eyes and I'm gonna go back again 2243 02:07:59,430 --> 02:08:02,490 after the show today. And I'm going to listen to the entire 2244 02:08:02,490 --> 02:08:05,400 speech one more time and see what else I catch. Because you 2245 02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:08,250 can almost predict what's going to happen with this guy. He's 2246 02:08:08,250 --> 02:08:13,860 like clairvoyant. It's crazy, isn't it? 2247 02:08:14,670 --> 02:08:17,100 Yeah, it is weird this this is all done beforehand. 2248 02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:21,060 And it was like what and we were also very focused of course on 2249 02:08:21,060 --> 02:08:25,560 the Code Pink Lady who stood up and was yelling I think as I 2250 02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:28,890 think we discussed then all basically a part of it. And I 2251 02:08:28,890 --> 02:08:31,470 gotta wait no, you know what we didn't whatever it and talk 2252 02:08:31,470 --> 02:08:33,900 about it whatever. Missed it 2253 02:08:35,700 --> 02:08:38,670 was possible that that Code Pink Lady was actually code for this 2254 02:08:38,670 --> 02:08:41,490 as a speech, you should pay attention to pay attention. 2255 02:08:42,570 --> 02:08:47,640 Everything good is in here. Here's your year. I really like 2256 02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:49,590 that it really really feels like that but then 2257 02:08:49,590 --> 02:08:53,190 it's possibly does one speech like that every year could be 2258 02:08:53,700 --> 02:09:00,120 could be ended ideas to benefit from some are identifying it in 2259 02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:01,020 some funny way. 2260 02:09:02,220 --> 02:09:06,510 There was one thing that came up in the I think was the Egyptian 2261 02:09:06,510 --> 02:09:11,070 guy maybe it was Muhammad Arshad Muhammad? No, it was. Yeah, I 2262 02:09:11,070 --> 02:09:13,560 think was the No, no, I'm sorry, Brazilian guy, because there's a 2263 02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:16,530 lot of foreign press now showing up at the State Department. I 2264 02:09:16,530 --> 02:09:19,080 have no I guess they're not let into talk to Kearney. They only 2265 02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:21,960 get to talk to Jen who and she's sweating. She is sweating. It's 2266 02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:24,420 kind of funny because glistening, glistening under the 2267 02:09:24,420 --> 02:09:28,980 lights there. And this is where I learned about three new pieces 2268 02:09:28,980 --> 02:09:32,580 of software that have such great names. There's no way you can 2269 02:09:32,580 --> 02:09:35,760 Google it and find out about them. But this this came in from 2270 02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:37,050 the Brazilian press. 2271 02:09:38,010 --> 02:09:42,780 Could you confirm whether with or without the consent or an 2272 02:09:42,780 --> 02:09:46,080 agreement with the Brazilian government? The United States 2273 02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:50,100 government has been detained that database of monitoring or a 2274 02:09:50,100 --> 02:09:56,100 monitoring center in Brasilia, or have ever collected data at 2275 02:09:56,100 --> 02:10:00,330 the Embassy of Brazil in Washington or at the end Brasil 2276 02:10:00,330 --> 02:10:03,630 Brazil in the United Nations using physical devices installed 2277 02:10:03,630 --> 02:10:09,120 in computers, and using software such as Highlands, Vagrant, and 2278 02:10:09,120 --> 02:10:09,750 Lifesaver 2279 02:10:11,340 --> 02:10:18,480 Island, Vagrant, and Lifesaver as the Brazil guy know that we 2280 02:10:18,480 --> 02:10:19,110 don't know. 2281 02:10:21,240 --> 02:10:24,150 Well, I did get a comment an interesting observation from one 2282 02:10:24,150 --> 02:10:27,720 of our producers, which is worth noting, Brazil, you know, they 2283 02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:30,150 say well, there's Latin American countries all up in arms. That's 2284 02:10:30,150 --> 02:10:35,160 not true. Colombia regarding snowed in Colombia doesn't want 2285 02:10:35,160 --> 02:10:39,150 him, they've said, so Paraguay doesn't want him. Chile doesn't 2286 02:10:39,150 --> 02:10:43,230 want him and Brazil above all, even though Greenwald's there 2287 02:10:43,230 --> 02:10:45,270 and maybe Greenwald's behind that cuz he doesn't really want 2288 02:10:45,270 --> 02:10:46,680 to have to hang out with the guy. 2289 02:10:47,400 --> 02:10:49,980 Hey, you know, you're nice and all that. But now I don't want 2290 02:10:49,980 --> 02:10:50,820 you over the house. 2291 02:10:51,269 --> 02:10:56,459 So 20 That that there's a there's been this movement. I 2292 02:10:56,459 --> 02:11:00,239 think that this this may be leveraged the NSA, using the 2293 02:11:00,239 --> 02:11:03,419 internet to listen in all the stuff through all the various 2294 02:11:03,449 --> 02:11:06,809 nodes. There's been this movement over the years and 2295 02:11:06,809 --> 02:11:11,189 Brazil of all the countries that it is now totally irked by this 2296 02:11:11,219 --> 02:11:16,109 snooping. It has been behind this movement along with Saudi 2297 02:11:16,109 --> 02:11:20,939 Arabia, I think some countries in Africa, the Chinese, I think, 2298 02:11:20,939 --> 02:11:25,949 to a lesser degree, have been trying to get the United Nations 2299 02:11:25,949 --> 02:11:30,269 to take over the internet. Wow. Okay. Yeah. And so they're going 2300 02:11:30,269 --> 02:11:35,759 to now leverage the abuse that our security agencies have 2301 02:11:35,789 --> 02:11:39,119 heaped upon the world. It's through the internet, mostly 2302 02:11:39,119 --> 02:11:41,849 because there's been a lot of this is all you know, the email 2303 02:11:41,849 --> 02:11:46,649 and it's stealing from the the communications that you do 2304 02:11:46,649 --> 02:11:50,639 through Google and the Google all this stuff. Through Mae West 2305 02:11:50,639 --> 02:11:53,279 and maze, they have big boxes there, they can pick up the bowl 2306 02:11:53,279 --> 02:11:56,399 international traffic, if somebody wants said, I think 2307 02:11:56,399 --> 02:12:01,049 this is pretty true. A 75 to 80% of all world traffic, 2308 02:12:02,700 --> 02:12:04,980 runs through those exchanges. Sure, was through the 2309 02:12:05,070 --> 02:12:08,910 one of the big US boxes. Absolutely. And so now the whole 2310 02:12:08,910 --> 02:12:12,180 thing is like a setup and we have to consider the possibility 2311 02:12:12,180 --> 02:12:16,920 this entire thing is theater around this idea of taking the 2312 02:12:16,920 --> 02:12:19,350 internet away from the United States and 2313 02:12:19,350 --> 02:12:23,160 giving us internet freedom, and exactly the internet freedom. 2314 02:12:24,090 --> 02:12:26,010 And it'll be run by the United Nations. 2315 02:12:26,790 --> 02:12:31,380 This is a good idea, because we have we have to will, holy moly, 2316 02:12:31,380 --> 02:12:34,890 John. Here is Jen on just that. 2317 02:12:35,910 --> 02:12:39,840 Well, we are deeply concerned by the new restrictive Singaporean 2318 02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:43,590 policy requiring the licensing of news websites. We raise 2319 02:12:43,620 --> 02:12:46,740 internet freedom regularly in bilateral and multilateral 2320 02:12:46,740 --> 02:12:47,580 dialogues with 2321 02:12:47,610 --> 02:12:50,190 our pay attention closely to what she considers internet 2322 02:12:50,190 --> 02:12:50,910 freedom to be 2323 02:12:50,940 --> 02:12:54,780 foreign governments, including Singapore, we urge Singapore to 2324 02:12:54,780 --> 02:12:57,180 ensure that freedom of expression is protected in 2325 02:12:57,180 --> 02:12:59,220 accordance with its international obligations and 2326 02:12:59,220 --> 02:13:03,510 commitments. We closely monitor and close and often speak out, 2327 02:13:03,510 --> 02:13:05,880 as you all know, on both internet freedom and media 2328 02:13:05,880 --> 02:13:10,080 freedom throughout the world, this case is no different. And 2329 02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:12,720 we are concerned of course to see Singapore applying press 2330 02:13:12,720 --> 02:13:14,640 restrictions to the online world. 2331 02:13:15,210 --> 02:13:17,940 Sure. So the reason that you push for internet freedom and 2332 02:13:17,940 --> 02:13:20,310 that kind of thing in all these countries around the world isn't 2333 02:13:20,310 --> 02:13:22,650 to make it easier for this government to listen in. And 2334 02:13:23,730 --> 02:13:26,880 I just I want to make sure that the AP and Reuters stories are 2335 02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:28,500 available to all the people if 2336 02:13:32,070 --> 02:13:35,310 that's your media freedom right there. Make sure that no agenda 2337 02:13:35,310 --> 02:13:39,210 show shut them up. And make sure the AP and Reuters stories are 2338 02:13:39,210 --> 02:13:43,650 available to the slaves in Singapore. That's That sounds 2339 02:13:43,650 --> 02:13:45,030 about right to me. What do you think? 2340 02:13:45,480 --> 02:13:50,070 Yeah, yeah, that's where we're headed. Ah, 2341 02:13:50,100 --> 02:13:52,770 yeah, Singapore, their license, I guess you have to be? Well, 2342 02:13:52,770 --> 02:13:56,190 this conversation is now taking place in America. I was watching 2343 02:13:56,220 --> 02:13:59,430 some Fox crap, which I didn't clip. It was just too annoying. 2344 02:13:59,430 --> 02:14:02,280 But they were, you know, there's people on Fox News who are 2345 02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:06,420 essentially actors reading a script, where they're discussing 2346 02:14:06,420 --> 02:14:09,870 what what is real journalism and what is a journalist and when do 2347 02:14:09,870 --> 02:14:12,270 you get to be protected as a journalist and that's it 2348 02:14:12,510 --> 02:14:15,570 basically just puts a big target on our foreheads. It's like it's 2349 02:14:15,570 --> 02:14:19,320 all over eventually it will be over we will have to me I don't 2350 02:14:19,320 --> 02:14:21,720 know if we can, you can probably get the license. Can I operate 2351 02:14:21,720 --> 02:14:22,980 under your license? Do you think 2352 02:14:23,550 --> 02:14:25,260 I'll probably be able to have an assistant? 2353 02:14:26,280 --> 02:14:29,280 Can I be your assistant then please? Okay. 2354 02:14:30,480 --> 02:14:37,350 And who's gonna read his email on the knowledge and show Hey, 2355 02:14:37,350 --> 02:14:40,170 Adam, and John recently started listening to your show, I find 2356 02:14:40,170 --> 02:14:43,740 it amusing and very interesting. Appreciate what you guys bring 2357 02:14:43,740 --> 02:14:49,350 to the public for the low low price of free kudos. You 2358 02:14:49,350 --> 02:14:54,780 remember this email? Yep. From Amin? Yeah. So first, he says, 2359 02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:58,920 you guys, thanks for doing this for free. And then he says I 2360 02:14:58,920 --> 02:15:01,860 wanted to comment and get get more info on the comment Mr. 2361 02:15:01,860 --> 02:15:05,520 Devore AK made around one hour 36 minutes on show 506 about 2362 02:15:05,520 --> 02:15:09,390 federal law trumping state law being BS. I ran this by my wife 2363 02:15:09,390 --> 02:15:12,090 who was studying for her bar exam. She said it was completely 2364 02:15:12,090 --> 02:15:15,090 wrong. And the 10th Amendment doesn't give state law more 2365 02:15:15,150 --> 02:15:19,740 power than federal law. I need some ammo. Okay, listen, Mr. 2366 02:15:19,740 --> 02:15:27,690 Amin, you are a big douchebag don't first come to us and say 2367 02:15:27,780 --> 02:15:31,200 thanks for doing your show for free, and then ask for like 2368 02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:34,200 something so you can hit your wife over the head with Are you 2369 02:15:34,200 --> 02:15:41,400 insane? What an aihole. That really irked me when I got that 2370 02:15:41,400 --> 02:15:43,770 email. I was like, What a dick. 2371 02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:45,360 Let's go work for him. 2372 02:15:45,389 --> 02:15:49,439 Yeah, really? I'm sorry. Let me just let me just go fix your 2373 02:15:49,439 --> 02:15:52,829 wife. You know what, here's what you tell your wife. Why don't 2374 02:15:52,859 --> 02:15:55,859 why don't your wife put on her Leather Jacket boots and 2375 02:15:55,859 --> 02:15:58,679 marching to Colorado and start kicking everybody in the head 2376 02:15:58,679 --> 02:16:02,159 who's smoking dope and say, federal law Trumps state law? 2377 02:16:02,159 --> 02:16:06,449 You should head sleeves. Okay. Tell her to do that. 2378 02:16:10,950 --> 02:16:14,730 That's a good one. Yeah. Another good one. We got a few 2379 02:16:14,730 --> 02:16:16,140 interesting notes this week. 2380 02:16:16,170 --> 02:16:19,440 I got some other notes if you really want let me see 2381 02:16:19,470 --> 02:16:23,130 where's our where's our young listeners giving us the horror 2382 02:16:23,130 --> 02:16:25,860 stories in their high school experience? You know what spring 2383 02:16:25,950 --> 02:16:26,700 summer brain 2384 02:16:26,700 --> 02:16:30,120 break? It's like it's yeah, it's all over. What's why dried out? 2385 02:16:30,150 --> 02:16:33,780 Now as we move into our thanking thanking segment of people who 2386 02:16:33,780 --> 02:16:40,380 do support our low, low, low, low free, cheap show, this 2387 02:16:40,380 --> 02:16:44,700 little, little cheap show you get for free. And then you can 2388 02:16:44,700 --> 02:16:48,150 you get Wi Fi for free. You get through airport security without 2389 02:16:48,150 --> 02:16:50,880 having to go through a get most scanner, you get all of this 2390 02:16:50,910 --> 02:16:56,070 analysis for free. And then you have the audacity ask us to help 2391 02:16:56,070 --> 02:16:59,610 you with your wife who's clearly you should divorce her. That's 2392 02:16:59,610 --> 02:17:00,510 your help right there. 2393 02:17:00,540 --> 02:17:04,350 Get rid of free advice again. Give it away. 2394 02:17:04,709 --> 02:17:08,099 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, no, no. But here is as we move into 2395 02:17:08,099 --> 02:17:13,229 our segment, I saw something on CNN, which was I mean, when talk 2396 02:17:13,229 --> 02:17:16,619 about you and I could have come up with this one. Now let's say 2397 02:17:16,619 --> 02:17:20,699 we have a brand new vodka, right? And we want to really get 2398 02:17:20,699 --> 02:17:25,349 this vodka noticed and it's high high end right now what what 2399 02:17:25,349 --> 02:17:29,039 what can we come up with that would really this one failed? By 2400 02:17:29,039 --> 02:17:33,029 the way I don't think the execution was well done. But if 2401 02:17:33,029 --> 02:17:36,029 you really know what you're doing, I think that this is the 2402 02:17:36,029 --> 02:17:39,059 way that we might have recommended this vodka brand. Do 2403 02:17:39,059 --> 02:17:39,869 it a few guys 2404 02:17:39,870 --> 02:17:42,990 involved that are on video, not your usual thieves. 2405 02:17:43,020 --> 02:17:47,370 These guys traveled in style a Mercedes sedan with a dark glass 2406 02:17:47,370 --> 02:17:50,670 roof and the loot they were after vodka. 2407 02:17:50,910 --> 02:17:55,320 It's aged and cognac barrels for three years. Okay. It's made in 2408 02:17:55,320 --> 02:17:55,950 Ukraine, 2409 02:17:56,010 --> 02:17:59,730 it's called Spirit of the czars and it's not inexpensive. 2410 02:17:59,850 --> 02:18:05,280 Well, they took us 752 cases and the value is $249 A bottle so 2411 02:18:05,280 --> 02:18:06,870 it's a little over 1.1 million. 2412 02:18:07,709 --> 02:18:13,739 Mark says you can't go to the donee segment, right yeah. We 2413 02:18:13,739 --> 02:18:17,129 can stop with that. That is just a bogus product 2414 02:18:17,130 --> 02:18:18,780 goes on for two 2415 02:18:18,990 --> 02:18:22,350 to really you know, somebody sent us this other one and I 2416 02:18:22,350 --> 02:18:25,740 said it's probably of crap. I had I ended up clipping it 2417 02:18:25,740 --> 02:18:28,170 because this was much worse than that. Oh, what 2418 02:18:28,170 --> 02:18:30,390 do you have a better one? Yes. Which 2419 02:18:30,390 --> 02:18:34,620 one is it? This is the five eating McDonald's hamburgers on 2420 02:18:34,620 --> 02:18:38,460 the set. I skipped that one went Oh no. You had you missed out 2421 02:18:38,460 --> 02:18:42,240 where's oh here you have Guilfoyle with the leggy girl. 2422 02:18:42,240 --> 02:18:50,250 You know, all I love these hamburgers. Oh, so good. Hello, 2423 02:18:50,309 --> 02:18:53,549 now, this of course is my segment, which means that 2424 02:18:53,549 --> 02:18:56,009 there's nothing serious here except that this is important. 2425 02:18:56,039 --> 02:18:59,399 Freakonomics blog, came out with some of these very important, 2426 02:18:59,609 --> 02:19:03,929 McDonald's double what is it called? Double sorry, has 2427 02:19:03,929 --> 02:19:07,529 protein fiber, calcium and iron. It's the cheapest, most 2428 02:19:07,529 --> 02:19:10,829 nutritious and bountiful food that ever existed in human 2429 02:19:10,829 --> 02:19:13,649 history. Let me just tell you some These seeds are great just 2430 02:19:13,649 --> 02:19:18,119 everyday things like you're already healthier. Now. 2431 02:19:18,450 --> 02:19:20,490 Wow. Wow. 2432 02:19:21,540 --> 02:19:25,050 It goes on and on and on. And they're eating this hamburger. 2433 02:19:25,230 --> 02:19:29,280 And I'm talking I'm looking at this going this is crazy. This 2434 02:19:29,280 --> 02:19:32,220 is this is what you have to put up with nowadays. If you're in 2435 02:19:32,220 --> 02:19:33,090 broadcasting 2436 02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:35,910 is you have to eat hamburgers and for chilling and pretend 2437 02:19:35,910 --> 02:19:37,020 it's healthy for you. 2438 02:19:38,010 --> 02:19:40,800 Oh, it was disgusting. And then here's what here's the kicker. 2439 02:19:41,010 --> 02:19:43,650 If you wanted to bite I'll just actually you should probably 2440 02:19:43,650 --> 02:19:47,550 play this because you might have to play the rest of the also he 2441 02:19:47,550 --> 02:19:49,980 has some grudge against one is I guess one of the yogurt 2442 02:19:49,980 --> 02:19:52,920 companies that was trying to get a plug in he didn't get his 2443 02:19:52,920 --> 02:19:56,550 money they didn't pay so screw they don't get their plug. But I 2444 02:19:56,550 --> 02:19:59,400 want you there's a little little gimmick at the end before we go 2445 02:19:59,400 --> 02:20:02,520 into our donate. One segment that I first I heard and I said, 2446 02:20:02,550 --> 02:20:05,370 Oh, this guy is going to work because apparently the blog or 2447 02:20:05,370 --> 02:20:09,870 somebody stole his line. And then it dawned on me what was 2448 02:20:09,870 --> 02:20:12,210 really going on here and you'd now you get to play the rest of 2449 02:20:12,210 --> 02:20:14,910 it. Now tell you what, what we see here is five star product 2450 02:20:14,910 --> 02:20:17,370 because that's the one. No, no, no, the same exact same clip you 2451 02:20:17,370 --> 02:20:17,580 had 2452 02:20:17,640 --> 02:20:21,360 that clip only lasted they played the whole thing. Oh, no. 2453 02:20:21,390 --> 02:20:24,240 Yes. Okay, so here's where it would have to explain it. There 2454 02:20:24,240 --> 02:20:28,440 was 31 seconds, but then you have a second clip. No, that's 2455 02:20:28,440 --> 02:20:35,640 it. That's an ad. What the What this wasn't? No. No, you only 2456 02:20:35,640 --> 02:20:35,820 have 2457 02:20:36,029 --> 02:20:37,649 seven in the morning. Yeah. Okay. I'll 2458 02:20:37,650 --> 02:20:40,530 take it. There was only 31 seconds. 2459 02:20:41,400 --> 02:20:44,190 I'm gonna have to go back and clip this other part. We'll save 2460 02:20:44,190 --> 02:20:47,220 it. Save it for Sunday. Save it first. There was a very funny 2461 02:20:47,220 --> 02:20:50,520 moment and I realized I'm not gonna save. I'm gonna save it 2462 02:20:50,520 --> 02:20:53,430 for Sunday. Okay, hit that hit the jingle. Anyway. 2463 02:20:54,060 --> 02:20:59,550 I guess the point is, I think we'd rather continue our vow of 2464 02:20:59,550 --> 02:21:03,330 poverty and just getting by and eatin mac and cheese and living 2465 02:21:03,330 --> 02:21:07,410 in Texas. I would personally then then have to ever stoop to 2466 02:21:07,410 --> 02:21:11,100 those levels where I am sitting there eating genetically 2467 02:21:11,100 --> 02:21:19,620 modified starch. I can hamburger salt, goo and intestine crap and 2468 02:21:19,620 --> 02:21:23,670 then having slime. Pretend that it's good. No, I'd rather be 2469 02:21:23,670 --> 02:21:25,260 dead. I'm gonna show 2470 02:21:25,260 --> 02:21:28,710 my school by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people 2471 02:21:28,710 --> 02:21:30,720 who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun. 2472 02:21:38,580 --> 02:21:40,500 We do have some people that think as a matter of fact, 2473 02:21:40,710 --> 02:21:44,460 beginning with Patrick Turner who's in Austin, Texas. That's 2474 02:21:44,460 --> 02:21:50,700 right. I'm $11.11 the grim America show in Calgary, 2475 02:21:50,700 --> 02:21:56,460 Alberta. $111.11 and it makes them know Darrin and Graham of 2476 02:21:56,460 --> 02:22:00,330 the grim Merica Show podcast love your show. Keep up the good 2477 02:22:00,330 --> 02:22:03,150 work. For those of us who can no longer stomach I 2478 02:22:03,150 --> 02:22:04,680 think I've heard their show. It's not bad. 2479 02:22:04,980 --> 02:22:05,700 I've never heard it. 2480 02:22:05,940 --> 02:22:09,330 And you know, a lot of people say we've inspired interestingly 2481 02:22:09,330 --> 02:22:12,630 enough, we've inspired a lot of people to start their own 2482 02:22:12,630 --> 02:22:17,220 podcast and and this is part of the reason why I'm making this 2483 02:22:17,220 --> 02:22:20,520 device because all they need is just if you have a little bit of 2484 02:22:20,520 --> 02:22:23,400 processing if you have if the mixes a little bit better, it 2485 02:22:23,400 --> 02:22:26,790 will just sound you know there's ways to do this as Trix is tried 2486 02:22:26,790 --> 02:22:30,240 and true. Been doing it for 400 years. We know how to do this 2487 02:22:30,240 --> 02:22:32,370 stuff. It would make the show so much better. And I think that 2488 02:22:32,370 --> 02:22:34,860 we're going to be able to help midnight show they got they got 2489 02:22:34,860 --> 02:22:36,390 some they got their ideas. 2490 02:22:37,140 --> 02:22:42,090 Andrew green $100 in London, UK. Just adding another contribution 2491 02:22:42,090 --> 02:22:44,400 to support your wonderful show and keep the segment short. 2492 02:22:44,400 --> 02:22:44,700 Thank 2493 02:22:44,700 --> 02:22:45,180 you. Hey, 2494 02:22:45,390 --> 02:22:50,010 stop right there. ANDREW HARRISON 7713 In Gravenhurst 2495 02:22:50,040 --> 02:22:55,020 Ontario, less Smith 7713. Curiously, oh, that from the 2496 02:22:55,020 --> 02:23:02,130 7713 in Tiburon over here across the bay. He wants to know if 2497 02:23:02,130 --> 02:23:04,890 there's any good right wines. I'm gonna say this one more 2498 02:23:04,890 --> 02:23:07,410 time. I'm probably not gonna say too much. I've said on Leo's 2499 02:23:07,410 --> 02:23:11,430 show that the wine situation at Costco has deteriorated 2500 02:23:11,730 --> 02:23:15,570 completely and I don't review wines from there because there's 2501 02:23:15,570 --> 02:23:18,720 nothing there. Generally speaking, Brian Williams 2502 02:23:18,750 --> 02:23:30,060 Streamwood Illinois 7373 Brian, Wojtek in Chicago 7171 Oh, and 2503 02:23:30,120 --> 02:23:38,610 oh boy 6969 It seems to have increased here Oh, Chris do das 2504 02:23:38,730 --> 02:23:39,120 doo 2505 02:23:39,480 --> 02:23:44,250 doo doo ladies sing this song all the new daddy 2506 02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:47,850 who says were his only source of news have never heard 2507 02:23:47,850 --> 02:23:50,070 that. I bet he's never ever heard that joke 2508 02:23:53,100 --> 02:23:59,820 What do ya original Kevin Thomas nice things here and tell it's 2509 02:23:59,820 --> 02:24:01,680 one of these you get some of these guys get this obvious 2510 02:24:01,680 --> 02:24:04,860 name. We have to tell you one of the jokes it's just got to do 2511 02:24:04,860 --> 02:24:08,130 and they always give me that dead eye look and say oh geez, I 2512 02:24:08,130 --> 02:24:08,910 never heard that. I 2513 02:24:08,910 --> 02:24:12,390 had that one I always hear is where's Eve? 2514 02:24:14,430 --> 02:24:18,870 Yes, that one is Eve I don't see why anyone would say that. 2515 02:24:18,930 --> 02:24:22,320 Oh my god. That's all I heard as a kid growing up. Where's your 2516 02:24:22,320 --> 02:24:23,790 name's Adam. Where's Eva? 2517 02:24:26,400 --> 02:24:29,460 And now you would buy today's definition that's bullying by 2518 02:24:29,460 --> 02:24:29,760 the way 2519 02:24:29,910 --> 02:24:33,240 the total bullying and you know and I let myself be bullied and 2520 02:24:33,270 --> 02:24:35,580 and I've been scarred for life because of it. 2521 02:24:37,530 --> 02:24:39,660 You should have what you should have done when a kid did that. 2522 02:24:39,660 --> 02:24:44,700 You should you should just hit taking your foot and grind him 2523 02:24:44,700 --> 02:24:48,030 hit him right in the nuts as hard as you could and said right 2524 02:24:48,060 --> 02:24:49,020 there a 2525 02:24:49,050 --> 02:24:53,400 whole Yeah. So what happened is I I was getting pestered at the 2526 02:24:53,400 --> 02:24:56,490 bus stop all the time because of this and yeah, this was in the 2527 02:24:56,490 --> 02:24:59,310 Netherlands and was all over the whole situation was weird. The 2528 02:24:59,310 --> 02:25:02,490 International school then all these kids that went there the 2529 02:25:02,880 --> 02:25:05,850 the gal skis near the three brothers and a gal ski brothers 2530 02:25:05,850 --> 02:25:09,900 and it all team up on me. And then so I went to judo class and 2531 02:25:09,900 --> 02:25:12,210 I was like, Okay, I'll learn how to you know how to kick their 2532 02:25:12,210 --> 02:25:15,870 ass. And then Judo class the first class like the instructor, 2533 02:25:15,870 --> 02:25:18,120 like scared the shit out of me and I didn't want to go back 2534 02:25:18,120 --> 02:25:21,660 anymore. It's like I have a life of bullying. It's just no good. 2535 02:25:21,990 --> 02:25:24,360 Now I have guns. Come on. 2536 02:25:24,690 --> 02:25:29,340 Chris Thomas in Smyrna, Georgia, Georgia. Or Kevin Thomas. I'm 2537 02:25:29,340 --> 02:25:34,620 sorry, Chris French, the French way. Anyway, Fox point 2538 02:25:34,620 --> 02:25:39,030 Wisconsin, Daniel Varga Raleigh, North Carolina Michael Kearns 2539 02:25:39,030 --> 02:25:43,710 and Parts Unknown. Brian Brown. So we went past four already in 2540 02:25:43,710 --> 02:25:48,300 Orange, California. You will not let up the Suazo not or would 2541 02:25:48,300 --> 02:25:52,380 not let this was enough in and he tweeted the Hastings video 2542 02:25:52,380 --> 02:25:59,130 where a fire and police were told to shut up slave. Matt 2543 02:25:59,130 --> 02:26:05,070 Comstock Walcott, Connecticut is the longtime Boehner apparently, 2544 02:26:05,400 --> 02:26:11,010 David Carey in winter garden, Florida. And we continue with 2545 02:26:11,010 --> 02:26:14,820 Gregory Brinkman in mountain Zion, Illinois and Edward S. 2546 02:26:14,820 --> 02:26:17,220 Heinz in Jacksonville. 2547 02:26:17,400 --> 02:26:19,680 1669. 2548 02:26:21,720 --> 02:26:27,270 And we've concluded with that's it, that's a good run. kind of 2549 02:26:27,270 --> 02:26:32,130 backs kind of back to back kind of back. Jonathan Rose in the 2550 02:26:32,130 --> 02:26:39,810 Tanya Israel, that Netanya probably 5510 Kevin Payne in 2551 02:26:39,810 --> 02:26:44,130 Richmond, Virginia 5069. And finally, Ralph Massaro in 2552 02:26:44,130 --> 02:26:46,650 Kirkland, Washington, 50 bucks and these are all 50s 2553 02:26:46,650 --> 02:26:50,100 Christopher Walker Parts Unknown Jason Fordham in Geneva, 2554 02:26:50,100 --> 02:26:56,970 Illinois, Paul Vela in Milton Keynes Buckingham Sure. And 2555 02:26:57,030 --> 02:27:00,300 sorry at the mood of the thing here Sue Covey Alexander in 2556 02:27:00,300 --> 02:27:05,340 Moscow I good we have finally somebody look can get get the 2557 02:27:05,370 --> 02:27:06,390 broadcast there, 2558 02:27:06,420 --> 02:27:10,170 you know, get get Putin on the show. I mean, we'll even will we 2559 02:27:10,170 --> 02:27:13,080 will even break our format if we can interview Putin. 2560 02:27:14,190 --> 02:27:17,520 David funk number one. Okay. 2561 02:27:18,810 --> 02:27:22,770 How about for the big one flips of food and the vacation show? 2562 02:27:23,369 --> 02:27:26,429 Yeah, we get ya know, we can do interviews on that. Okay. Now 2563 02:27:26,429 --> 02:27:30,449 we're marking up Putin for that. Mark to sleep actually with 2564 02:27:30,839 --> 02:27:34,649 Putin was ever shown. Listen to our show. He says we were on to 2565 02:27:34,649 --> 02:27:37,289 him. I think he appreciate that. 2566 02:27:37,320 --> 02:27:41,190 I think it would be you'd be given us hookers. Very good 2567 02:27:41,190 --> 02:27:41,760 boys. 2568 02:27:42,750 --> 02:27:49,140 You like to read Ed bark Tanner, Whittier, California and finally 2569 02:27:49,140 --> 02:27:52,890 Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina. And they want to thank 2570 02:27:52,890 --> 02:27:55,770 them and all the other people have donated lesser amounts 2571 02:27:55,770 --> 02:27:59,280 contributed lesser amounts, and especially the subscribers who 2572 02:27:59,280 --> 02:28:01,440 helped us out on a monthly basis. Yeah, and please 2573 02:28:01,440 --> 02:28:05,670 people check your check your pay pal because you got letters this 2574 02:28:05,670 --> 02:28:08,430 week, we got a whole bunch of letters of people who are you 2575 02:28:08,430 --> 02:28:11,490 know, the basic mad at us? Yeah. And they're mad at us. Why did 2576 02:28:11,490 --> 02:28:14,580 you cancel my subscription? I have an 11 $11 a month 2577 02:28:14,580 --> 02:28:18,360 subscription of $4 a week. And PayPal says you cancelled it. 2578 02:28:18,360 --> 02:28:21,780 No, we don't. That would be insane to think that we would 2579 02:28:21,780 --> 02:28:25,800 cancel it. And actually, one guy sent us an email said hey, you 2580 02:28:25,800 --> 02:28:28,800 know, I'm sending you a note to what? How can i What did I do 2581 02:28:28,800 --> 02:28:32,040 wrong? Are you mad at me? Because I asked about something 2582 02:28:32,130 --> 02:28:35,820 like no, no. And then I realized how horrible this is. Can you 2583 02:28:35,820 --> 02:28:38,730 not call Pay Pal John and talk to them about this. I've sent 2584 02:28:38,730 --> 02:28:41,880 them a couple of notes so far. I'll try again. It's really It's 2585 02:28:41,880 --> 02:28:44,460 such such a bad form something it's got something to do with 2586 02:28:44,460 --> 02:28:45,420 our computers. 2587 02:28:46,020 --> 02:28:48,630 That's just it's just the note that they said some guys set it 2588 02:28:48,630 --> 02:28:50,430 up once and they have never changed it. 2589 02:28:50,550 --> 02:28:52,920 Yeah, no, I'm sure it's some legacy thing. It's sitting there 2590 02:28:52,920 --> 02:28:56,190 she keeps cropping up and they don't it may be so locked into 2591 02:28:56,190 --> 02:28:58,110 the code that they can't fix it that's why they're not 2592 02:28:58,110 --> 02:28:59,640 responding to my complaints. 2593 02:28:59,700 --> 02:29:02,400 So here's what happens is you have a subscription and then 2594 02:29:02,400 --> 02:29:07,410 sometimes for no apparent reason it gets cancelled and now 2595 02:29:07,860 --> 02:29:11,490 everyone says they did nothing I think it must have to do with 2596 02:29:11,520 --> 02:29:14,700 either a balance issue or maybe a credit card a date. 2597 02:29:14,939 --> 02:29:17,879 Most Yeah, but it's got nothing to do with us. Yeah, the thing 2598 02:29:17,879 --> 02:29:19,739 is, is that are explained I explained 2599 02:29:19,740 --> 02:29:22,560 the note the note says the no agenda show was canceled your 2600 02:29:22,560 --> 02:29:27,150 subscription please contact them. You know, to see what's 2601 02:29:27,150 --> 02:29:29,160 up. I think that's what it says to see what's up. 2602 02:29:30,630 --> 02:29:35,610 Yeah. Alright, bullcrap. Stole bull crap. We have never 2603 02:29:35,610 --> 02:29:37,620 canceled the subscription of anyone ever. 2604 02:29:37,650 --> 02:29:40,170 I don't even know how you can even cancel a subscription. Do 2605 02:29:40,170 --> 02:29:41,490 you even know how can you do that? 2606 02:29:41,849 --> 02:29:46,589 From from our end? I don't know how actually. You can't. No, no, 2607 02:29:46,589 --> 02:29:50,339 there is a way Yeah, yeah. You can go into the database of all 2608 02:29:50,669 --> 02:29:55,379 all the streams of money. People you mean the 2609 02:29:55,380 --> 02:29:58,980 oceans, the oceans. Nami of money. 2610 02:29:59,160 --> 02:30:02,550 You look up to You look up the guys look up the guy in the 2611 02:30:02,550 --> 02:30:06,180 database, you find him and you find a subscription. And then 2612 02:30:06,180 --> 02:30:08,910 you just you cancel it as though you're canceling an order. 2613 02:30:09,420 --> 02:30:12,360 Right? Yeah, you can do that from the site. It's really a 2614 02:30:12,360 --> 02:30:15,630 pain. The last time I had to do this, because some guy wanted to 2615 02:30:15,630 --> 02:30:19,380 see I had to do he couldn't afford it anymore. He says, so 2616 02:30:19,380 --> 02:30:21,960 he says you got and he couldn't do it. I don't know why he 2617 02:30:21,960 --> 02:30:25,560 couldn't do it. But he couldn't. So he says, You gotta cancel my 2618 02:30:25,560 --> 02:30:27,510 subscription. You gotta cancel my subscription. I don't, I'm 2619 02:30:27,510 --> 02:30:30,840 broke. And buddy, when I said, Well, why can't you do this? I 2620 02:30:30,840 --> 02:30:34,020 don't know how I can figure it out. So I went look the guy up 2621 02:30:34,050 --> 02:30:37,410 his he hasn't been paying for the last six months. They 2622 02:30:37,410 --> 02:30:42,930 canceled him last year. Wow. So I went through all that trouble. 2623 02:30:43,410 --> 02:30:46,560 And the guy didn't even know what what. Anyway, I was very 2624 02:30:46,560 --> 02:30:46,860 annoying. 2625 02:30:46,890 --> 02:30:49,620 And where you went from swimming in the rivers of money? 2626 02:30:51,180 --> 02:30:54,720 Go I was actually went from waiting. Pay Pal is a classic 2627 02:30:54,750 --> 02:30:59,040 cloud. Yeah, a cloud operation cloud operation? 2628 02:30:59,070 --> 02:31:03,210 Yeah. You click on something and you wait. And you wait. Yeah, 2629 02:31:03,210 --> 02:31:06,030 it's just horrible. Yeah, it is. Anyway, I'm sorry. 2630 02:31:06,090 --> 02:31:08,880 Well, we would do want to thank everyone for checking their 2631 02:31:08,970 --> 02:31:12,330 subscriptions, make sure they're still in place. That really is 2632 02:31:12,330 --> 02:31:15,780 that, you know, if we build those in over time in 10 years, 2633 02:31:15,780 --> 02:31:19,200 when I don't know when when we're trying to just get enough 2634 02:31:19,200 --> 02:31:23,160 money to pay our license fees for the podcast legally, I'm 2635 02:31:23,160 --> 02:31:25,200 sure. What do you think a license fee is going to be for 2636 02:31:25,200 --> 02:31:25,590 us? 2637 02:31:25,830 --> 02:31:29,670 $3,000 a month? I'm just guessing. 2638 02:31:30,930 --> 02:31:32,190 Maybe he could be that high? 2639 02:31:32,310 --> 02:31:35,850 I think I think that's what I would do. I you know, look, 2640 02:31:36,630 --> 02:31:41,310 I've been unlicensed news and views. So I don't know how I 2641 02:31:41,310 --> 02:31:44,370 would do it. Are they gonna write? No, I guarantee within 2642 02:31:44,370 --> 02:31:47,220 the next five years, the websites will be licensed. 2643 02:31:48,720 --> 02:31:52,290 Yeah, no, I think you're right. Well, it'll start with some kind 2644 02:31:52,290 --> 02:31:56,460 of seal of approval. That's how they always do it. Right? Your 2645 02:31:56,880 --> 02:32:01,050 organization, an organization like 25 bucks fee. Yeah, to get 2646 02:32:01,050 --> 02:32:03,390 a sticker to get a badge for your website 2647 02:32:03,540 --> 02:32:07,740 by so so the government knows that you're gonna check you out? 2648 02:32:07,740 --> 02:32:08,280 Yeah, 2649 02:32:08,280 --> 02:32:11,580 you'll have a number. Right? You have a number tattooed on your 2650 02:32:11,580 --> 02:32:16,650 arm? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That was a different regime. Oh, 2651 02:32:16,650 --> 02:32:21,450 maybe not. Who knows? Anyway, the support that we get every 2652 02:32:21,450 --> 02:32:25,080 single time I do this show, but after the show, and John and I 2653 02:32:25,080 --> 02:32:27,510 always talk for 1015 minutes between each other about 2654 02:32:27,510 --> 02:32:31,920 whatever I was too long. That's that boy that was and eventually 2655 02:32:31,920 --> 02:32:34,620 we both say, oh my god, can you believe we get to do this? 2656 02:32:34,710 --> 02:32:39,180 That's what I say. And John goes, Yeah, of course. Of 2657 02:32:39,180 --> 02:32:42,780 course. And I go to miss McKenna Kenya, I feel like the luckiest 2658 02:32:42,780 --> 02:32:44,760 guy in the world that piano because 2659 02:32:44,760 --> 02:32:48,150 we're directly supported for our good work. Yeah, the people 2660 02:32:48,150 --> 02:32:50,670 listen to the show, whether they like that one episode or 2661 02:32:50,670 --> 02:32:54,300 another. But there's always some tidbits at home cheese and then 2662 02:32:54,300 --> 02:32:56,670 they I mean I'd like for example, I still think right now 2663 02:32:56,670 --> 02:33:00,930 if you want your tidbit you use that Ecuador or they Bolivian 2664 02:33:00,960 --> 02:33:06,240 pilot asking to land in Austria Yeah, asking to land asking to 2665 02:33:06,240 --> 02:33:07,980 land and ATC 2666 02:33:08,310 --> 02:33:11,010 and ATC offering help do you need anything can we get any 2667 02:33:11,040 --> 02:33:12,090 assistance you know you 2668 02:33:12,090 --> 02:33:15,900 might Yeah, they're gonna do anything they want and then this 2669 02:33:15,900 --> 02:33:20,370 is now being shipped good these guys call it out as forced 2670 02:33:20,370 --> 02:33:22,620 landing us right there you go that's 2671 02:33:22,620 --> 02:33:23,880 that's that's it right 2672 02:33:23,880 --> 02:33:26,160 there. That's the whole thing that tells you that everything's 2673 02:33:26,160 --> 02:33:29,490 corrupt okay that except this show that could arteries are not 2674 02:33:29,490 --> 02:33:31,920 corrupt is because we're not forced eat hamburgers on the 2675 02:33:31,920 --> 02:33:35,100 air, or promote all kinds of weird stuff that some of them we 2676 02:33:35,100 --> 02:33:37,110 believe or don't believe because once the view on the road to 2677 02:33:37,110 --> 02:33:38,040 corruption, you're done 2678 02:33:38,100 --> 02:33:40,860 now? Oh, no. Once you're in, you're in for good. Yeah, yeah. 2679 02:33:41,280 --> 02:33:41,670 Just go 2680 02:33:41,670 --> 02:33:43,680 ahead and advertiser. The clip will 2681 02:33:43,680 --> 02:33:47,760 be in the in the clips and stuff section of the show notes, five 2682 02:33:47,760 --> 02:33:52,230 to nine dot n a show notes.com clips and stuff. That's the tab 2683 02:33:52,230 --> 02:33:56,820 you want to click on. Then go to the snow job link. And in there, 2684 02:33:56,820 --> 02:34:01,440 you'll see f a b 001. Bull crap about fuel. That will be the 2685 02:34:01,440 --> 02:34:04,440 clip. You can download it you can put it on your phone. You 2686 02:34:04,440 --> 02:34:06,360 can just have to have a link handy 2687 02:34:06,450 --> 02:34:09,330 on your phone. Yeah. And then somebody's yakking at you give 2688 02:34:09,330 --> 02:34:11,550 them dead eyes and you say hey, listen to this and tell me how 2689 02:34:11,550 --> 02:34:12,480 you interpret it. Yeah. 2690 02:34:12,510 --> 02:34:15,720 And then you and then you just might want to do the plane. Does 2691 02:34:15,720 --> 02:34:17,820 it force down? Is that what happens? That's what everyone's 2692 02:34:17,820 --> 02:34:19,650 reporting. You know, it's like everything you 2693 02:34:19,650 --> 02:34:23,460 do like a Brian to dog where you start just writing the guy or 2694 02:34:23,460 --> 02:34:27,270 snow Suey that it's doing. He's always writing Brian about his 2695 02:34:27,270 --> 02:34:29,970 novel. Yeah. So how you deal with that novel? Yeah. So that's 2696 02:34:29,970 --> 02:34:31,770 what you think you think was forced on you? Have you heard 2697 02:34:31,770 --> 02:34:33,930 that? Where'd you hear that from those force now? Oh, everybody 2698 02:34:33,930 --> 02:34:36,570 said well, that's the fact sciences. How do you explain 2699 02:34:36,570 --> 02:34:37,980 this and then you play the clip. 2700 02:34:39,510 --> 02:34:44,940 To support us please remember to vorak.org/and 2701 02:34:45,000 --> 02:34:46,050 A Oh boy. 2702 02:34:48,720 --> 02:34:53,070 We got a couple of big ones today for you know, celebrating 2703 02:34:53,070 --> 02:34:56,760 her birthday today. 19 or 20 years old is Jade Devorah. 2704 02:34:56,760 --> 02:35:00,960 Congratulations and a Happy belated birthday. To the one and 2705 02:35:00,960 --> 02:35:04,740 only Uber geek, the OG of Geekdom and nerdness. Nikola 2706 02:35:04,740 --> 02:35:07,860 Tesla happy birthday from your buddies here at the best podcast 2707 02:35:07,860 --> 02:35:12,780 in the universe. He gets no props, man. 2708 02:35:13,019 --> 02:35:15,269 It's no protesta was born on the 11th 2709 02:35:16,259 --> 02:35:20,129 I think it was born to the 10th I think I'm one day and just 2710 02:35:20,219 --> 02:35:22,469 briefly because then we gotta go on we have a nice thing to do. 2711 02:35:24,059 --> 02:35:29,339 How the here's what really irks me a Tesla, who, you know, 2712 02:35:29,489 --> 02:35:32,729 arguably he invented really the best transmission for 2713 02:35:32,729 --> 02:35:36,209 electricity also incur, he built the hydraulic, you know, like 2714 02:35:36,209 --> 02:35:40,739 the up there, the Niagara Falls. He was the first one to measure 2715 02:35:40,739 --> 02:35:43,619 Earth resonance, you know, wireless electricity. You know, 2716 02:35:43,619 --> 02:35:47,819 he really, Marconi came way after he was doing wireless 2717 02:35:47,819 --> 02:35:52,589 transmissions, all this stuff. Why does a guy like Elon Musk 2718 02:35:52,619 --> 02:35:57,239 get to use his name on his stupid ass battery car? That is 2719 02:35:57,239 --> 02:36:01,409 such an insult to everything that Nikola Tesla was about? How 2720 02:36:01,409 --> 02:36:04,919 does how does he get to do that? And does he have a trademark and 2721 02:36:04,919 --> 02:36:08,159 he can use that forever? And the name Tesla is just it's now on 2722 02:36:08,159 --> 02:36:14,399 this lame ass Lotus with a battery in it. Tell me I know no 2723 02:36:14,399 --> 02:36:17,789 one questions this everyone. So the next time someone's like 2724 02:36:17,819 --> 02:36:21,209 Elon Musk is great. He's the Tony Stark they modeled Tony 2725 02:36:21,209 --> 02:36:25,169 strike on him. He's great. She knows he's a fucking thief. He 2726 02:36:25,169 --> 02:36:29,129 took Tesla's name and stole it and put it on his battery car 2727 02:36:29,129 --> 02:36:30,959 and he should be ashamed of himself. 2728 02:36:31,350 --> 02:36:34,470 I think his public domain can't steal public domain 2729 02:36:34,620 --> 02:36:40,290 it but it's okay. I have a feeling this battery car is 2730 02:36:40,320 --> 02:36:44,490 direct current and not alternating current What do you 2731 02:36:44,490 --> 02:36:44,880 think? 2732 02:36:45,990 --> 02:36:48,990 Oh that's a very interesting little take how do you how do 2733 02:36:48,990 --> 02:36:52,950 you get to Yeah, DC car has to be has to be a DC car. So 2734 02:36:52,950 --> 02:36:56,040 how do you get to do that? No, no, I make the ultimate podcast 2735 02:36:56,040 --> 02:36:59,460 device with Mark Smith. What do we use AC? 2736 02:37:01,050 --> 02:37:03,030 Adam curry now of 2737 02:37:03,030 --> 02:37:07,260 course we we make a DC later on but we have to rail power I'm 2738 02:37:07,260 --> 02:37:10,170 telling you this is a big deal. Alright. Make goods we did the 2739 02:37:10,200 --> 02:37:14,070 SIR Dwayne metal song. We got him and he was actually uh, he 2740 02:37:14,070 --> 02:37:17,370 had got a double producer ship on July 4, went back changed the 2741 02:37:17,370 --> 02:37:19,800 credits of the show notes we do make good on these things. 2742 02:37:20,130 --> 02:37:23,610 Especially because he'd already put it into his his LinkedIn 2743 02:37:23,610 --> 02:37:26,070 profile which you should do if you're an executive or Associate 2744 02:37:26,070 --> 02:37:30,660 Executive Producer and Michael Miller I guess he was on the 2745 02:37:30,660 --> 02:37:33,270 list for five to eight and we got him at the top of the top of 2746 02:37:33,270 --> 02:37:35,970 the segment right we thanked him so we make good on that. Okay. 2747 02:37:36,210 --> 02:37:37,830 We want to make sure we make good on these things. Then we 2748 02:37:37,830 --> 02:37:45,990 have some title changes we have sir JD goes to Baron and Sir 2749 02:37:45,990 --> 02:37:49,470 Dwayne, of course becomes the Duke. We have that and we have 2750 02:37:49,500 --> 02:37:53,550 our one knighting so let us grab you 2751 02:37:53,550 --> 02:37:55,290 have a hold on again. 2752 02:37:57,930 --> 02:38:01,140 Patrick Brennan, step forward sir thank you very much for 2753 02:38:01,140 --> 02:38:04,080 sport the best podcast and university might have $1,000 or 2754 02:38:04,080 --> 02:38:08,160 more you know that that means you can join the elite group of 2755 02:38:08,190 --> 02:38:11,640 Knights and Dames here at the roundtable so I hereby pronounce 2756 02:38:11,640 --> 02:38:16,800 name Sir Patrick Brennan night sir Munch nuts. No agenda 2757 02:38:16,800 --> 02:38:19,860 roundtable come on by for your hook has a boyfriend boys and 2758 02:38:19,860 --> 02:38:22,320 shot in a hot pants of booze, long haired heavy metal guys and 2759 02:38:22,320 --> 02:38:25,560 Scotch winches and via Rosae. Gosh, doesn't suck a buck anvil, 2760 02:38:25,560 --> 02:38:27,480 a bong hits and bourbon sparkling Simon escorts and 2761 02:38:27,480 --> 02:38:30,660 mutton and Mead, right here at the roundtable of the Knights 2762 02:38:30,660 --> 02:38:35,520 and the dames. Thank you so much for your support. And in our 2763 02:38:35,970 --> 02:38:39,450 segment here today, John, there was a note from somebody who 2764 02:38:39,450 --> 02:38:45,210 didn't read the note actually. Let me see what was it. So who 2765 02:38:45,210 --> 02:38:48,870 was it that said, Oh, here it is. It was David Carey. I've 2766 02:38:48,870 --> 02:38:50,730 been listening for the past couple of months after hearing 2767 02:38:50,730 --> 02:38:53,760 the Texas abortion law rant I decided I could no longer be a 2768 02:38:53,760 --> 02:38:57,930 douchebag the time came to donate Adam, your take was 2769 02:38:57,930 --> 02:39:00,150 brilliant. Well, thank you. I don't but brilliant, but 2770 02:39:00,150 --> 02:39:04,500 appreciate it. I found out yet I have another piece of the puzzle 2771 02:39:04,890 --> 02:39:06,300 that I want to share with us today. 2772 02:39:06,660 --> 02:39:08,430 I mean, all yours. Okay. 2773 02:39:08,940 --> 02:39:12,720 So my general theory, besides the rant that, you know, I'm 2774 02:39:12,720 --> 02:39:15,870 just like, why is everyone why don't we see these protests for 2775 02:39:15,870 --> 02:39:20,940 other things, which was what my rant was really about. Is I had 2776 02:39:20,940 --> 02:39:23,490 this feeling that you'd look at this law which was clearly made 2777 02:39:23,490 --> 02:39:27,960 up by Alec al e c, which was done on behalf of Republican 2778 02:39:27,960 --> 02:39:31,290 lawmakers and they call it the was the pain law or something 2779 02:39:31,320 --> 02:39:36,750 the fetus pain law, which is clearly a red herring because 2780 02:39:36,780 --> 02:39:39,600 the three quarters of this bill and this if you haven't heard 2781 02:39:39,600 --> 02:39:42,060 about it, this is big news and taxes taking place here in 2782 02:39:42,060 --> 02:39:46,650 Austin. Women yelling at each other people saying the church 2783 02:39:46,650 --> 02:39:50,700 sucks just it's I'm amazed we haven't had fistfights yet. It's 2784 02:39:50,700 --> 02:39:55,410 it's very, very tense. And it's obvious that there are large 2785 02:39:55,410 --> 02:39:59,400 forces at work here and my take on it is that this is all about 2786 02:39:59,400 --> 02:40:03,450 setting up clinics to a certain standard so we can now start new 2787 02:40:03,450 --> 02:40:07,560 clinics. Instead of charging $500 for an abortion, they can 2788 02:40:07,560 --> 02:40:10,530 charge $5,000 for an abortion. Did they summarize that well 2789 02:40:10,530 --> 02:40:12,630 enough, Jonathan, pretty much the thesis that I had. 2790 02:40:13,620 --> 02:40:14,400 Yeah. 2791 02:40:15,570 --> 02:40:23,280 Guess what? Governor Perry's sister. And her name is Mila 2792 02:40:23,280 --> 02:40:30,840 parry Jones is Vice President of the United surgical partners 2793 02:40:30,870 --> 02:40:35,670 International. A Texas company in Addison, Texas that runs 2794 02:40:35,670 --> 02:40:42,960 hospitals and surgery centers co owned by doctors. This is these 2795 02:40:42,960 --> 02:40:48,750 are the guys they are well known for. For helping doctors charge 2796 02:40:48,750 --> 02:40:53,430 1000s of dollars for very simple procedures. He setting this up 2797 02:40:53,430 --> 02:40:55,830 for them? Yeah, pretty sister. 2798 02:40:56,670 --> 02:40:59,970 Yeah, yeah. Pretty obvious. You know, the funny thing is this, I 2799 02:40:59,970 --> 02:41:03,690 think this whole movement, I may have the cart before the horse 2800 02:41:03,690 --> 02:41:07,320 on that I may have backwards. But this has happened. And this 2801 02:41:07,320 --> 02:41:10,980 has long since established this, this sort of, it's just a 2802 02:41:11,010 --> 02:41:14,100 stepping stone, this gouging, it's all gouging be based on the 2803 02:41:14,310 --> 02:41:17,460 fact that the government ends up paying through auto insurance 2804 02:41:17,460 --> 02:41:19,920 companies paying in some sort of a pool mess, which which, 2805 02:41:20,220 --> 02:41:22,170 which I need to point out, that's the final step. You know, 2806 02:41:22,170 --> 02:41:24,990 we got to set it up, we have to make it really expensive, then 2807 02:41:24,990 --> 02:41:27,510 we have to have a way for the government to pay for it, which 2808 02:41:27,510 --> 02:41:31,620 currently by federal law, due to Roe vs. Wade is forbidden, 2809 02:41:32,190 --> 02:41:34,470 right. So we have this other mechanism that we're going to 2810 02:41:34,470 --> 02:41:36,630 create, oh, it's almost done through insurance companies, 2811 02:41:36,630 --> 02:41:39,960 because Obamacare is really an insurance scam. So so the 2812 02:41:39,960 --> 02:41:42,600 government's really not paying for it, but they're probably 2813 02:41:42,600 --> 02:41:46,110 subsidizing insurance companies or some other angle, but in some 2814 02:41:46,110 --> 02:41:49,440 way they are paying for it. But this happened all the all the 2815 02:41:49,470 --> 02:41:53,850 veterinaries around the going on, oh my God, you have taken 2816 02:41:54,810 --> 02:41:57,870 every little shop now as part of some that used to be just a nice 2817 02:41:57,870 --> 02:42:01,350 little veterinarian and have a dog and cat on each door. And 2818 02:42:01,350 --> 02:42:03,810 you go into this one side, you get your cattle and said you got 2819 02:42:03,810 --> 02:42:07,620 your dogs as small operation, maybe five vets and they you 2820 02:42:07,620 --> 02:42:10,560 know, and it's very reasonable everything. And now they've been 2821 02:42:10,560 --> 02:42:14,310 taken over by these huge chains, these veterinarian clinic chain 2822 02:42:14,550 --> 02:42:17,460 chains, where they essentially gouge you 2823 02:42:17,490 --> 02:42:19,920 Well, that's what they started with selling you insurance, 2824 02:42:19,920 --> 02:42:23,130 which you you really wanted to get your pet insurance. Remember 2825 02:42:23,130 --> 02:42:27,990 that? Yep. And now you go to the to the vet, it's 1000 bucks. 2826 02:42:28,349 --> 02:42:31,799 Yeah, for the mediocre service is not even as good as it used 2827 02:42:31,799 --> 02:42:34,469 to be. And then they get you give you a bunch of drugs, they 2828 02:42:34,469 --> 02:42:37,169 all know you're the animal you better you get to take these 2829 02:42:37,169 --> 02:42:40,739 drugs. And so they give you all these packets of drugs for the 2830 02:42:40,739 --> 02:42:44,519 poor animal, and that you're supposed to make them take. And 2831 02:42:44,519 --> 02:42:47,309 every and they have to go back for a follow up, which is 2832 02:42:47,309 --> 02:42:50,309 another it's just cost as much as cost to go to a regular 2833 02:42:50,309 --> 02:42:54,629 doctor. And it's just that this whole country is being scammed 2834 02:42:54,989 --> 02:42:57,989 left and right by these large organizations and the 2835 02:42:57,989 --> 02:43:00,539 legislatures that are passing these bills that encourage this 2836 02:43:00,539 --> 02:43:05,429 sort of thing. The it's just unbelievable. The gouging that 2837 02:43:05,429 --> 02:43:09,299 is going on from top to bottom of the American public is just 2838 02:43:09,359 --> 02:43:10,319 outrageous. 2839 02:43:10,350 --> 02:43:12,000 Yeah, no, no, it's 2840 02:43:12,000 --> 02:43:14,130 a worldwide is not just the American public. 2841 02:43:14,130 --> 02:43:18,060 It's all all citizens. Well, we've all been gouged. 2842 02:43:18,090 --> 02:43:21,600 And I think we do need to mention one of our producers 2843 02:43:21,600 --> 02:43:24,390 actually done a lot of work on this. And there's a whole bunch 2844 02:43:24,390 --> 02:43:28,170 of links in the show notes under trains. Bad pipelines. Good. Now 2845 02:43:28,170 --> 02:43:34,890 this is the the accident at luck. Mega antique. Is that how 2846 02:43:34,890 --> 02:43:37,470 you pronounce it like Mega antique? I'm not sure I know. 2847 02:43:37,800 --> 02:43:41,190 That's this is the plant the train that blew up in no way 2848 02:43:41,190 --> 02:43:43,410 that one. Yeah, yeah. So 2849 02:43:43,440 --> 02:43:45,990 it was a setup, it's very obvious that they're going to 2850 02:43:45,990 --> 02:43:48,480 arrest these guys. They're going to arrest people for this 2851 02:43:48,480 --> 02:43:52,110 because what happened is this magically, the pressurized 2852 02:43:52,110 --> 02:43:57,030 brakes got disengaged, which is not exactly that simple, and 2853 02:43:57,030 --> 02:44:02,250 probably a lie. And the next thing you see is everywhere. Oh, 2854 02:44:02,280 --> 02:44:04,620 we have we really need pipelines. It's much safer than 2855 02:44:04,620 --> 02:44:08,220 transporting oil via via rail. And this, of course, is a setup 2856 02:44:08,220 --> 02:44:11,850 to the XL Pipeline. It's so obvious. 2857 02:44:11,880 --> 02:44:15,240 Yeah, it is it's pretty obvious. And the joke is is that the 2858 02:44:16,470 --> 02:44:20,250 moving oil by rail is not uncommon. Do we have a bunch of 2859 02:44:20,250 --> 02:44:23,910 them that go by here, and it's been an old established way of 2860 02:44:23,910 --> 02:44:26,400 doing it? And they don't blow 2861 02:44:26,400 --> 02:44:28,770 up? Thank you. That's my point. These things they go 2862 02:44:28,770 --> 02:44:31,620 hit a pole or something they just leaks oil, although it 2863 02:44:31,620 --> 02:44:32,400 makes a mess. So 2864 02:44:32,400 --> 02:44:36,990 road road Wolf, who I think is up there in Canadia. And I got a 2865 02:44:36,990 --> 02:44:39,990 link to his blog post he's done all the work so I can't claim 2866 02:44:39,990 --> 02:44:42,090 any credit for it. It's very difficult because we don't know 2867 02:44:42,090 --> 02:44:45,600 that much about Canadian culture and I have to say the Canadians 2868 02:44:45,600 --> 02:44:48,210 in general are very sparse and giving us information we could 2869 02:44:48,210 --> 02:44:51,060 use a lot more of that we could learn a lot more since you know 2870 02:44:51,060 --> 02:44:54,120 you are the foreign oil we depend on and you know, you are 2871 02:44:54,120 --> 02:44:59,130 the ones we will be invading eventually. And you know these 2872 02:44:59,130 --> 02:45:02,730 like the Walls of these of these transport trains, you know, 2873 02:45:02,730 --> 02:45:06,180 these carry the oil there, you know, an inch thick steel, I 2874 02:45:06,180 --> 02:45:08,340 mean these things, there's no reason for it to blow up 2875 02:45:08,550 --> 02:45:13,890 no and deny that but getting crude oil to blow up is I don't 2876 02:45:13,890 --> 02:45:17,610 know how you do it. You have to have it's used the crude oil can 2877 02:45:17,610 --> 02:45:22,470 be used to make a bomb the same way and for ammonium nitrate and 2878 02:45:22,470 --> 02:45:26,190 fuel oil is what it is. It's ammonium nitrate packed together 2879 02:45:26,190 --> 02:45:30,420 with fuel oil. And you can make and it's used as a substitute 2880 02:45:30,420 --> 02:45:32,760 for dynamite. It works very well. And crude. 2881 02:45:33,450 --> 02:45:36,180 Hold on, could you wait a second? Could you just really 2882 02:45:36,180 --> 02:45:38,010 explain that in great detail. 2883 02:45:38,970 --> 02:45:44,100 There's not much detail. That's the great thing about nitrate 2884 02:45:44,100 --> 02:45:45,150 and mixing it with some oil. 2885 02:45:45,240 --> 02:45:47,460 I just want to make sure everyone knows that the NSA has 2886 02:45:47,460 --> 02:45:49,980 heard that we are telling people how you can make a bomb 2887 02:45:50,009 --> 02:45:52,859 but I'm not exempt not explaining the details. Because 2888 02:45:52,859 --> 02:45:55,859 you do have to get it to explode. In fact, to get that to 2889 02:45:55,859 --> 02:45:58,979 explode takes more than a little work. I mean, it just what you 2890 02:45:58,979 --> 02:46:01,169 can't take a match and put it to the 2891 02:46:01,500 --> 02:46:04,080 little do you think that a drone strike would have worked? 2892 02:46:04,980 --> 02:46:09,480 A drone strike hitting the crude oil? Yes, that would work. Okay, 2893 02:46:09,510 --> 02:46:14,130 just the thought. So what you're implying is that we just drone 2894 02:46:14,130 --> 02:46:16,590 the damn thing. It's a possibility. I'm telling you 2895 02:46:16,590 --> 02:46:20,130 right now there's no way for one of those these things crash 2896 02:46:20,400 --> 02:46:23,040 caught not commonly, but when they do crash. I've never heard 2897 02:46:23,040 --> 02:46:26,280 of one exploding. It's not possible. I'm taking 2898 02:46:26,370 --> 02:46:29,430 the killing 20 people I mean, this thing exploded and it took 2899 02:46:29,430 --> 02:46:32,970 out you know, 60 homes are something is crude oil is not an 2900 02:46:32,970 --> 02:46:36,330 explosive product. So either a there was something else that 2901 02:46:36,330 --> 02:46:37,530 was being transported. 2902 02:46:38,640 --> 02:46:42,120 Which could be gasoline would explode. Regardless, 2903 02:46:42,120 --> 02:46:47,460 it was billed as oil. And the headlines everywhere are, you 2904 02:46:47,460 --> 02:46:51,000 know, we really pipelines Much, much safer, much safer XL 2905 02:46:51,000 --> 02:46:52,500 Pipeline Much, much safer. I 2906 02:46:52,500 --> 02:46:55,740 don't see how a pipeline is safer. It's not but we need 2907 02:46:55,740 --> 02:47:00,390 this pipeline in place. It's certainly a lot easier. Seems to 2908 02:47:00,390 --> 02:47:03,540 me it's a lot more economical than then especially if you can 2909 02:47:03,540 --> 02:47:06,300 have the government pay for it because you know, we want to get 2910 02:47:06,300 --> 02:47:10,350 on with it. We don't want people dying. That would make sense to 2911 02:47:10,350 --> 02:47:14,820 me. To me. That would make sense. someone knocking? 2912 02:47:15,720 --> 02:47:18,780 Yeah, I'm not gonna Mr. Barak. Hey. 2913 02:47:20,430 --> 02:47:23,430 No, it's different. They don't call you DeVore. The call you 2914 02:47:23,430 --> 02:47:24,090 Jebediah 2915 02:47:25,140 --> 02:47:26,670 Mr. Deasy for 2916 02:47:28,290 --> 02:47:33,150 now. So that's all I got. 2917 02:47:35,700 --> 02:47:40,590 That's all you got. Let me see if I think I have um, see if I 2918 02:47:40,590 --> 02:47:43,530 had anything I had potential end of show clip 2919 02:47:43,530 --> 02:47:47,250 stuff on race baiting, but you can do that later. Yeah. Well, 2920 02:47:47,280 --> 02:47:49,590 you know, a lot of race baiting because we were willing to put 2921 02:47:49,590 --> 02:47:51,960 in the Red Book. They're gonna get Zimmerman's getting off in 2922 02:47:51,960 --> 02:47:52,890 the riots. Well, 2923 02:47:53,280 --> 02:47:58,680 you know what, I wasn't thinking about this. I think no riots. I 2924 02:47:58,680 --> 02:48:03,210 think no riots. And I'll tell you, I'll tell you why I've been 2925 02:48:03,240 --> 02:48:06,450 so I've been following if you do if you go to Twitter, and you 2926 02:48:06,450 --> 02:48:09,630 type in that search box at the top you type in Zimmerman. In 2927 02:48:09,630 --> 02:48:12,210 fact, let's do it right now. Okay. And then we'll end the 2928 02:48:12,210 --> 02:48:15,270 show on this. And then I'll tell I'll tell you my true thoughts. 2929 02:48:15,270 --> 02:48:18,450 So we type in Zimmerman, and let's see we do all you got to 2930 02:48:19,200 --> 02:48:21,480 you gotta you gotta make sure you do all because otherwise you 2931 02:48:21,480 --> 02:48:29,160 get top which is lame. Okay, all right, let's see. Blood they 2932 02:48:29,160 --> 02:48:33,390 finally let Zimmerman walk swear. Okay, that was the first 2933 02:48:33,390 --> 02:48:37,080 one. Zimmerman won't be safe in jail. Zimmerman won't be safe 2934 02:48:37,080 --> 02:48:40,770 outside of jail. F Zimmerman, Zimmerman, don't go to jail. 2935 02:48:40,770 --> 02:48:45,240 Somebody's gonna get him. Look at that face nothing good. I 2936 02:48:45,240 --> 02:48:47,700 really want to know what was going through Zimmerman's mind 2937 02:48:47,730 --> 02:48:50,670 if dude was a white boy Zimmerman would not have cared 2938 02:48:51,030 --> 02:48:54,840 closing arguments begin in zero and zero and is innocent. Only 2939 02:48:54,840 --> 02:48:58,170 way he does times if Judge allows prosecution to charge to 2940 02:48:58,170 --> 02:49:04,050 aggravated assault so there's someone trying to be smart. See, 2941 02:49:04,050 --> 02:49:07,590 so a lot of it is now I'm gonna kill him, you know, like his ass 2942 02:49:07,590 --> 02:49:10,740 up. If he's not locked up. I'll kill him. There's a lot of this. 2943 02:49:11,070 --> 02:49:13,920 And let me tell you, these people are all icon changers, 2944 02:49:13,920 --> 02:49:16,080 the only thing that's going to happen, and this will be the 2945 02:49:16,080 --> 02:49:20,340 proof I really hope george Zimmerman gets off regardless of 2946 02:49:20,340 --> 02:49:23,820 what I think what happened. I wanted to be completely free and 2947 02:49:23,820 --> 02:49:27,810 clear. So you can see that we are a nation of icon changers. 2948 02:49:27,810 --> 02:49:31,020 They will not be a single riot. This is not not your 1990 2949 02:49:31,020 --> 02:49:34,980 America with Rodney King, this is not that America anymore. 2950 02:49:35,100 --> 02:49:37,710 Everyone's gonna sit there and yell at each other on Twitter. 2951 02:49:39,900 --> 02:49:45,870 messed him up. Now, this is not not your 1990 America anymore. I 2952 02:49:45,870 --> 02:49:48,660 guarantee you no riots, zero riots. 2953 02:49:48,840 --> 02:49:50,550 Well, you'll get $1 If that's true. 2954 02:49:50,910 --> 02:49:52,410 Do you mean the usual Mortimer 2955 02:49:54,030 --> 02:49:55,320 Yeah, the usual boredom. I 2956 02:49:57,150 --> 02:50:05,040 hate to say it but there will be an icon change campaign. You can 2957 02:50:05,520 --> 02:50:06,150 bet on 2958 02:50:06,150 --> 02:50:08,220 it. Take that to the bank. 2959 02:50:09,089 --> 02:50:13,679 You could take it to the bank you can take that to the bank. 2960 02:50:15,599 --> 02:50:17,669 I'm gonna go with there's going to be a riot no 2961 02:50:17,670 --> 02:50:22,530 no rights, no riots. No way it's not gonna happen. And if there's 2962 02:50:22,530 --> 02:50:26,190 no riots that will be sadder than if there are riots, but it 2963 02:50:26,190 --> 02:50:30,510 will prove my point that we are a nation of icon changing couch 2964 02:50:30,510 --> 02:50:35,940 potato, hamburger eaten fat slobs have no worth. 2965 02:50:37,500 --> 02:50:38,340 It double doubles. 2966 02:50:41,820 --> 02:50:44,790 Everybody, we'll be back on Sunday, bringing you another 2967 02:50:44,790 --> 02:50:48,840 best podcast in the universe where we dissect the bullcrap 2968 02:50:49,230 --> 02:50:54,420 that is news, coming to you from so I'm sorry. Yes. Coming to 2969 02:50:54,420 --> 02:50:59,400 you. From the capital of the drone star states. In Austin, 2970 02:50:59,400 --> 02:51:01,290 Texas in the morning. My name is Adam curry, 2971 02:51:01,740 --> 02:51:05,190 and from Northern Silicon Valley, where things are just 2972 02:51:05,190 --> 02:51:07,950 going slow and there'll be no riots here. I'm John C. Dvorak. 2973 02:51:07,950 --> 02:51:08,100 We 2974 02:51:08,100 --> 02:51:10,470 will talk to you again on Sunday. Please join us for 2975 02:51:10,470 --> 02:51:13,350 another episode of no agenda 2976 02:51:20,910 --> 02:51:23,460 HOLY SHIT I just fell asleep and had this nightmare that you were 2977 02:51:23,460 --> 02:51:25,590 talking to me about really boring shit. Oh, fuck, it's 2978 02:51:25,590 --> 02:51:33,570 happening.org/n a