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And then she found that she was
the spawn of Satan. Adam curry,

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John C. Dvorak. It's

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Thursday, October 17 2013. Time
feud Gitmo nation media

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assassination episode 557. This

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is no agenda. Running the

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sickbay here in the traverse is
hot out in the capital of the

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drilling stars. We are in Austin
J Haas in the morning,

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everybody. I'm Adam curry,

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where if you didn't take the

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garbage out, it's too late. I'm
John C. Dvorak. Greg Laden was

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killed. Yeah, there's a train
going by.

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What happens? There's trucks
trains the ghetto Beep beep beep

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Hey, man, this stuff is bad here
at the Travis heights hideout.

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What happened? Miss Mickey is
not well.

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Oh, hold on a second. Let me
close the window.

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Yeah, that'll help her.

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She feel better now.

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Let me check. Yes, instantaneous
results. Now she's got some some

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weird kind of flu man. This is
not good.

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Oh, you guys should have loaded
up on vitamin d3 When you had

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the chance. And yeah, it's

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all it's all come but it's this
is a weird one where she has a

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kind of like a semi dry cough
accent okay, it's less like a

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flu and more like one of your
favorite afflictions, which is

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spontaneous human combustion.

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She hasn't blown up yet. She's

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getting pretty close. She runs a
little fever now and then but

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then in the middle of the night,
you'd be like, Oh, just throw

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off all everything has to go and
she she's like, Oh, I'm in my

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everything's too hot.
Everything's too hot. And you

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feel her like legs and and her
body is just like, you know,

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keep the gasoline away. Yeah, so
I don't know. It's a weird kind

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of flu.

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It sounds like the doctor has
one of those could be one of

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those crazy funguses or
something that you haven't seen

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these desert areas? Give me an A
you could be more like a valley

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fever here in California.

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I have no idea what valley fever
is? Oh, you should look

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it up a lot of California is and
especially people that weren't

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raised in California can get get
the sinkhole valley fever. And

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it's from the dust that when you
have the certain times of the

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year when the when all the
climate changes blows? Well,

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yeah, climate changes, it
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during the year. Okay, just the
regular climate change. Yes, of

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course. And the wind is all of a
sudden blowing out of the

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Central Valley. It brings us
these spores into San Francisco

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Bay area, for example, and from
like Fresno, and you get these

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things in your lungs and next
thing you know, you get funguses

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grown inside. Yeah. And you end
up with this flu like symptoms

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is called Valley fever is really
good son of a bitch to get rid

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of. Yeah, well, we have

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Cedar here in Austin, which I
don't think is hit yet. And I

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know that that gets to her. But
this is these are different

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symptoms and she'll be okay. But
it's Did you have a fever? Yeah,

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she's running a fever. Yeah. And
she's funny though. She She

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really is in. She's been in bed
since Tuesday.

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Is she a good sick person or

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she's a great sick person.
Sometimes she's sometimes she's

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a plus. Sometimes she'd like to
get away from Marie.

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Some people are bad.

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She's really good. I feel
horrible. I just I feel

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inadequate. I just like I don't
know what else I can do with

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this. Yeah, thank you. Hey, oh,
however, she does say funny

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things, man. You

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meanwhile while hallucinating

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Yes. So she says I have a
dastardly flu. I'm like what?

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Yeah, it's my on Facebook. My
one of my doctor friends says I

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have the flu. I have his
dastardly flu. And that's it.

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You You're so sweet. Honey,
you're European. You just never

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heard of this word because it's
not used enough. But dastardly

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flu is not like a version of
swine. It's a description it's a

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it's an adjective. And she was
all bummed out she's like what I

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thought I had like some awesome
flu that no one had heard of.

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Like the dastardly Egyptian flu
or something and that's what one

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of her doctor buddies who put
the whole Facebook thing when

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she's delirious is kind of
interesting. Because she'd be

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like, Look, honey, here's a
video of dolphins clapping sad

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because I don't want to live out
pretty sad is bad. This is no

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good. The household falls apart
immediately. Nothing works. I

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don't know what to do. clean the
dishes. That's what I do that

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throw it in the machine and
everything and I was just like,

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ah, oh my goodness. I missed
that we missed out on so many

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great obat opportunities because
we had a whole bunch of things

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planned. Oh, that's a shame. Oh
yeah, like a dinner tonight and

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tonight have been great because
they'd be gloating. Yes, yes,

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indeed they would be gloating.
And I'm glad you bring that up.

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But first let me thank you for
your courage. John,

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I want to thank you for your
courage. Adam.

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This has become the meme because
you're on no agenda. Yeah, we

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changes

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the changes from year to year.
It's weird though. This

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this one just took hold. We I
think we only use it once or

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twice on the show. And everyone,
every email I get starts with

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thank you for your courage.

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And it feels well it made you
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I think we need to say this to
each other more often just in

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general life just in passing.

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You might as well just make
everything meaningless.

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You know, when I get one of
those solicitors on the street,

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the ones that I hate the opinion
solicitors and I'm always pretty

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good at coming up with you know,
when they leave. Hey, would you

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like to hate animals? Or would
you like to save the whales? No,

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I hate him. I think I'll start
off by Oh, thank you for your

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courage. See what see what that
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That's a great idea when
somebody comes up to you like,

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Hey, can I ask you but I'd
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Thank you for your thank you for
your courage, but I'd rather

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not. Which is kind of like a
veiled threat at the same time.

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I like it.

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And I'm like, I'm not from these
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Today is the store. Monday, I
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this go into effect? It's so
hard to tell any more with just

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we're gonna get to this to the
shutdown bullcrap. Which of

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course, as predicted right on
time in the nick of time, with

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the same script that Boehner
used on the the what was it the

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last time we had some crisis? It
was the same thing. He couldn't

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get the vote. And then the the
plan B didn't work.

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Yeah, you're just playing along
with the Tea Party guys has

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shown that they can't when he
plays the game, I think Boehner

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is doing a pretty good job of
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is great. Did you see the thing
where they? Oh, I didn't clip

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it. I should have clipped it.
The Republicans slipped one

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through on the Democrats, which
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couple of them. Where you can't
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the floor unless it's pre
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Well, yeah, we talked about that
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we I don't remember. Yeah, but
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a this crisis.

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Yeah, well, not just the crisis.
But but the the Obamacare

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funding of the crisis, quote,
unquote, crisis. There was only

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to one little bit but but
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at the whole here's the
analysis. Explain before we go,

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no, no, this is exactly I'm
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Because I know what you're gonna
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think I do. I think it's almost
been six years, John, come on, I

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know every nook and cranny of
your body. Honey, I know exactly

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where you're coming from.

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I present.

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The analysis that no one has
given is how the process

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actually works. And who was
really holding up who, and I

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don't know anyone better than
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professor, John C. Dvorak. The C
stands for cash. Who can explain

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the process and why it really
was? It's always been the

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Senate. It's been the Senate
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Yeah, no, that's true. I had no
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the wrap up that I that I read,
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can you can get to that. But you
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first, because no one became
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with that. But I don't really,
I'm not really in the in the

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mood to do this. But I'll tell
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all money that is spent by the
government is is is called out

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by Congress, Congressman is this
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strings.

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This is important, we got to
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power of the purse, which I
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Article One, Section Eight, I
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and the Constitution in front of
the concept. The Constitution

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specifically states that the
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decide which pieces of the
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that is, in particular, their
their function, if it is a

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taxation, right?

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Yes, specifically, they're the
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money and how to spend it.
They're the ones who say, here's

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what we got, here's the money we
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spend it. Generally speaking,
it's called the budget. And the

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Congress that you know, the
House and the Senate work

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together on this at some point
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you know, supposedly supposed to
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Senate is supposed to be a
rubber stamp. And then the

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President has to sign off on it
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to sign it and if he doesn't
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this time they had a budget it
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just leave the Obamacare funding
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do that it's been done before
but everyone withdrawal the law

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of the land the law.

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Now let me ask you a question.
The way I understand it is they

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can pass this on they can pass
on a bill about motorcycle rear

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tire ers and the Senate can take
that bill, rip it all out. They

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have the right to do that and
put in anything they want, which

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they've done in the past. They
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their own their own law, their
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it. You but they still could
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They could have passed any piece
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but they still but at the end of
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houses have to approve the final
product. Right. Okay.

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So I'm saying it's not just one
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I mean, oh, David, the house had
done a bill was completed. It

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was weeks and weeks ago is way
before the shutdown. And it was

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and it was it was pretty much
the budget with that what

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everybody kind of wanted. And
they went it but it had one

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thing in there was that we're
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Obamacare thing. And which was
which was not not an unusual

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thing. If people had read my
news or your newsletter,

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newsletter that was done in.

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It's okay. It's your newsletter
now. I see the writing on the

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wall. Yeah. That's how it always
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Yeah, all right. Yeah. So
anyway, if the newsletter has a

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link to a very good column by
atomic or by soul,

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yes, actually was the guy who
put it in the show notes under

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Sharia.

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Very good to read. It's very
simple. And if they had to build

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them, but if Obama wasn't gonna
buy into this, and he

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apparently, he called their
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that, and I can't even talk my
way or the highway, which is

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what the Republicans always

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said. But you know what he did?
He did, he called their bluff

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and he was save the world.

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And so now everyone thinks he's
a big hero, when in fact, he was

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a divider. Yes.

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He's a fighter, not a lover. And
he saved the world. He saved the

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world. John, he pulled us back
from the brink once again, save

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the world.

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The guy is amazing. I you

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know, me, I'd like I like to go
read these things. So this is

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got this got to be the worst hr
2775. Well, of course, they

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slipped a lot of things in here.

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Oh, yeah. In fact, no, that's
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But that was a big one here for
Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell

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snuck a beauty in or like, like
a $2 billion increase in some

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damn project in his in his
hometown or whatever. Which and

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but the way they did it is so
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slipped it in the deal they made
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no, no, we put that in. Because
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project, it would cost the
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million dollars. So oh, we
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know, what was a $700 million
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$2.9 billion project. So I think
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really good at this he got
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and he had the top Democrats
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Yes, it's great. These guys are
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top of the class douchebag In
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let me ask you the show comes
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for their own crap.

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You want to you're reading this?
I want you to answer this

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question. There's a bunch of
this the the shutdown cost the

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American it cost Americans $25
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that's just numbers being
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lay everybody

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off in a bit you got a building
right? It's it's cost so much to

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run it you fire everybody in the
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and now you're now you're it's
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were running the building now
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know, this is this is what
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crap number falling, or no, no,
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I'm telling you. Why did this do
what where does this come

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because it's a lie. In fact,
right at the top here, I section

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115 of the of the settlement
ensures furloughed employees are

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compensated and ratifies
obligations made during the

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shutdown similar to language
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shows they should say so as you
predicted, it was a nice paid

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vacation. Maybe it was a little
unnerving because you know, you

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sit at home like Ah crap, man,
what's going to happen? Not

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going to support the no agenda
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there was some of that but not
everyone gets gets back pay. The

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effective date for this joint
resolution is back dated. This

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is one of my favorite things.
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guess that that makes all of us
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financial thing. Something going
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authorization for the Food for
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gotten into but it looks like a
lot of fun. Extends authority

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for activities to counter the
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conventional a system recovery.
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the Lord's Resistance Army last
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is the whole Kony thing. And so
now this we had to put this

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money into forgot about him we
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100 Guys, that stinks. So we
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what else was anointed there was
a lot of just annoying things

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extends authority for the
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terrorism standards program.
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A lot of criticism This is
listen I wish somebody would

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start dissecting this what you
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everyday we should pound on this
there's tons of crap like this

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in there so that this was a
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everyone through a wringer made
the everyone fret and made the

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old ladies worry about their
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them for this crap that they put
together with all these bullshit

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things in their life that quote
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to this extent this is a good
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here extends authority for the
Secret Service to apply proceeds

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from undercover investigations
in other words if the Secret

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Service ochres five finds you
with a hooker and some

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counterfeit bills they can put
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extends authority for quote
other transaction contracting

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agreements for the Department of
Homeland Security. Yeah, no

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that's not suspicious of its you
know, this is these things are

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Oh, have you ever heard of cola?
I had to look this one up,

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prohibits cola for members of
Congress for fiscal year 2014

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I'm like Wow, man That's harsh.
They can't even have a coke what

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apparently COA cost of living?
That's right it's their it's

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their salary increase.

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So they gotta get that no, they

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don't It prohibits prohibits
good. Yeah, so that time Yeah,

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that's a good thing. Why

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some other scam? No, they're not
gonna they're not going to

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starve to death these guys. No,
no. So they're just, well,

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let me just write it. There it
is. Let me just roll out I get

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three things and I want you to
wrap it up. And I want to start

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by saying one thing. I am of the
belief. How's that for

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performative? I am I do believe
and I am of the belief systems

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that I want my state
representative in arguing for my

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state. So this is a good thing
and I'm not necessarily against

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a lot of these things that are
put in here Yeah, Mitch

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McConnell Good on you man. You
got $3 billion for your state

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you know whatever project your
your boys your boys, you know,

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and good on that's whatever it
is going on. Good on ya. Good on

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you. I don't see anything for
Texas in here, too. But I'm okay

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with that. Your debt. Your Ted
Cruz guy. Words of sucks. But I

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don't see anything in here.
Either

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way that guy's getting on my
nerves. Yeah.

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Didn't you say he was going to
the White House? He thinks he's

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going to be president or
something. That'd be funny. Yes,

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he has the same chance as as
Rick Santorum. He is not an

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appealing person. No, he's he's
condescending he's pompous. To

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do.

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So what I don't like is all
these federal programs and stuff

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for the Secret Service and
homeland security that is

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unspecified. Now to go and
figure out what that is that

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part I find extremely annoying.
I'm okay. With your state's

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representatives trying to get
what's best for your state

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because at the end of the day,
we're not a country. We're not a

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we're not united. We're fine. I
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bumper sticker the other day
y'all can go to hell. And I'm

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gonna go to Texas. So that's
exactly right. Here the here's

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two quick things. Now, I want
you to hear how this was being

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for people. This is 30 seconds
for people who have or do not

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live in the United States of
Gitmo nation. And this This was

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coming down to the wire as they
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then of course, if you listen to
no agenda show, you just sat

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back and relax and you knew that
it would all get taken care of

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at the last minute minute as
happened as promised. Here's

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MSNBC. This is Thomas Roberts.
This is how he talks to this is.

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Mark Marsha Blackburn, I think
she's She She must be a

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Republican. About the shutdown
and it seems just not okay.

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When it comes to Obamacare, do
you hate Obamacare more than you

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love your country?

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I gotta tell you something. I
think that comments like that,

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that you are making are just
incredibly inappropriate. What

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we have to realize like

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it's incredibly inappropriate to
shut down our government and to

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take off hostages of Americans
that you've taken because you've

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taken the government through a
shutdown and all the American

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people you're not walking them
to a cliff the economy and

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you're gonna push them over one
by one based on the fact that

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you don't like the ACA that's
all it is you don't like the

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Affordable Care Act listen to
yourself yes

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yeah so that I mean she's right

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what do you like these guys on
MSN but destroy this network is

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starting to fall apart oh yeah
no

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this dumb this is not this is
not what this is not

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entertainment. You're just
propaganda and people are even

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dumping

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on Fox when they propagandize
you. It's entertaining.

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Yes. And they've got better
looking legs. This guy got no

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legs. Well, yeah, they got they
got laid. Here's a here's Debbie

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Wasserman Schultz who said to me
an unbelievable thing. On more

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on the Morning Joe Show again
and MSNBC. And she was there

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with Peter King or it gets she
was in the studio. Peter King

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was on the remote box. Peter
kins Republican right? I'm gonna

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guess. I can't remember. Yeah,
he's like a douche. They're both

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he's one of the worst. He's also
the biggest Muslim. Bader.

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So Debbie Washington. Yes,
Debbie Wasserman Schultz is she

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is in charge of the Democratic
Party. She she's the chair

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person. And she said something I
found to be very interesting,

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although, right in line with
MSNBC viewers who love this idea

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brought up a concept that you've
been talking about with

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Republican women. Tell Peter,
and let's see if he agrees. So

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this could be solved. So

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Peter, if if we put all the
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the House together, the
consensus from all of us is that

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we would get this done in a few
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So she just said, If it was up
to the women, then we'd have

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this done in a few hours. Don't
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think he has a sexist pig thing
to say? Yeah. But this is this,

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by the way, was not only her
saying that there was a bunch of

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people saying this meme, this
meme came out. Ah, and then when

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they when the thing was finally
finished in the Senate, again,

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because Susan Collins was
involved along with a woman from

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Alaska to women. They took
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And so this has become kind of a
meme that the women if we elect

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more women, this is just
obviously, you know, an attempt

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to get more women elected. If we
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these problems because these
man, which brings me to another

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point that I'll be making later
in the show,

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okay, bookmark that Peter King
did he had a good comeback? He

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was ready for it. Oh, that's?
Oh, I don't know. I think you

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should put Sarah Palin then
they're also really let's make a

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hot woman from Alaska as the
brunt of this joke. Right. What

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do you say to that? Debbie
Wasserman Schultz?

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You know, I would argue that
even if Sarah Palin were in the

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room, we could find a way to get
a shot at about Sarah.

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You're all douche knuckles.

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So let's wait.

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I hope I hope I hope, I hope I
hope I pray. I pray to my god

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Lucifer, that Hillary Clinton
becomes president. I cannot

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wait.

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How much coffee have you had
today?

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I haven't actually, I've only
had one cup. Because why am I am

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I to do I need to calm down here
while I'm wound up? Well, I'm

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excited because there's all
kinds of stuff that I can ask

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you about, you know, play the

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crisis wrap so we can get get
rid of this this time.

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I don't know if we're gonna get
rid of it.

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Under the Budget Control Act.
This is far less than many of us

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had hoped for, frankly. But it's
far better than what song had

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saw.

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The framework came from a
bipartisan group of 14 senators

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led by Republican Susan Collins
of Maine, this great country

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deserves a Congress that can
govern. And that was the

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unifying theme of our group. The
agreement, they worked out funds

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government operations for three
months at reduced spending

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levels already in place, and it
raises the debt ceiling through

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February 7. The deal also calls
for a congressional panel to

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negotiate a long term deficit
reduction package. And it

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requires that Americans verify
incomes to qualify for subsidies

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under the new health care law.
That was the sole section

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related to Obamacare after
Republicans spent weeks trying

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to block or delay parts of the
law. Heart 65. Last month, Texas

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Senator Ted Cruz, a leading Tea
Party conservative filibustered

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over the issue. Today. He said
he'd vote no, but would not try

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to delay action. I have

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no objections to the timing of
this vote. And the reason is

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simple. There's nothing to begin
Ain't from delaying this vote

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one day or two days, the outcome
will be the same. Every senator,

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every member of the House is
going to have to make a decision

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where he or she stands that

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Arizona Republican John McCain,
meanwhile, had oppose the

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shutdown when he voiced relief
today.

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I think it's obvious that we are
now seeing the end of this

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agonizing Odyssey that this body
has been put through but far

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more importantly, the American
people have been put through

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it's one of the more shameful
chapters that I have seen in the

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years that I've spent here in
the Senate

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now please, every year you've
been set guy he is the

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definition bullshitting is the
definition of shameful that guy

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right there guys What an idiot
and you know, of course this

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only take us to what February 1
I think that's a no that's the

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yeah so it's like to be
continued. We'll do a whole new

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there'll be series five episode
one all over again exclusively

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on if they could just move it to
Netflix. And just take it off

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cable news so

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you don't you know if you're
trading stocks

446
00:26:07,020 --> 00:26:10,890
Here we go. Screw stocks,
Mitchell triangles got $2

447
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,130
billion dollars for you know
more

448
00:26:14,220 --> 00:26:15,900
action not less. No,

449
00:26:16,050 --> 00:26:20,190
no, no. Yes. Okay. That's where
the peons in the game, John, but

450
00:26:20,190 --> 00:26:23,700
the real players, because here
Make no mistake Harry Reid's

451
00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:27,480
state also benefits from this
damn. Yeah, the real players are

452
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:34,890
in construction. Yo, yo, yo, I'm
sorry, that's a breaking bad

453
00:26:34,890 --> 00:26:40,200
thing. I can't I have to stop
doing that. I'd say so. Here's

454
00:26:40,290 --> 00:26:47,250
so all right. Hold on a second.
All right. Let me explain. Every

455
00:26:47,250 --> 00:26:51,480
six to eight weeks, seven or
eight weeks, but I made I made

456
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,530
it rain early. Mickey and I have
a massage. We haven't assumed

457
00:26:55,530 --> 00:26:59,040
come to the house. Whoa, she's
actually a

458
00:26:59,340 --> 00:27:04,950
donations. Yeah, right. So she's
having Missy have a hair cutter

459
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:05,970
come to the house to

460
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,360
know so it's six or eight weeks
as

461
00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:13,260
a makeup artist show up. Before
you go to dinner with the bots

462
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,340
she's she answers the phones at
Mickey's chiropractor's office

463
00:27:17,340 --> 00:27:19,410
and moonlights doing massage

464
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,450
this is where makeup yourself
when you go to visit Obama bots.

465
00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:26,820
No, a little makeup a little
powder.

466
00:27:26,850 --> 00:27:30,090
No. What does this have to do
with with a massage?

467
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:32,700
I figured you have the makeup
artist come over and a bunch of

468
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:34,380
lights and no

469
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,270
I care I carry her bed in from
the trunk of her Honda. Okay, so

470
00:27:42,270 --> 00:27:43,590
it's not like I spent the

471
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:52,170
night massage person is the oh I
never mind I'll just drop the

472
00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:53,430
subject I get it.

473
00:27:54,660 --> 00:27:58,140
She by the way is very funny.
She's from New Zealand and she's

474
00:27:58,140 --> 00:28:00,390
been here six years she just
recently got divorced

475
00:28:00,390 --> 00:28:04,320
conveniently after her five year
period of having a green card.

476
00:28:05,010 --> 00:28:11,220
And but she's a New Zealand
girl. And and she she finds it

477
00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:15,960
very hard to understand you know
she in New Zealand in general

478
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,920
I'm going to generalize women
who have casual sex because they

479
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,130
want it and it makes them feel
good are seen as independent

480
00:28:23,130 --> 00:28:28,680
strong willed women in America
they're seen as slots it's an

481
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,830
orange slot some horse and so
she was she was like I don't

482
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:35,220
understand this. I'm sorry that
was my my John Lennon I can't do

483
00:28:35,220 --> 00:28:38,970
with the New Zealand accent
she's at easy no it's not she

484
00:28:38,970 --> 00:28:42,090
said it's really really hard to
understand because you know in

485
00:28:42,090 --> 00:28:45,000
New Zealand it you know it's
very normal to have a nail and

486
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,850
bail or a fucking Chuck and
she's rolling and all these are

487
00:28:47,850 --> 00:28:53,940
like whoa, what's a nail and
bail? Fucking Chuck. I like

488
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,710
nail in Bay.

489
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,990
I know. And then so anyway, so
she tells the stories and she's

490
00:29:00,990 --> 00:29:05,370
very entertaining. It's really
really funny. And and then I

491
00:29:05,370 --> 00:29:08,580
said but what do you want to be
when you grow up? You know

492
00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:09,720
what's your answer was

493
00:29:11,940 --> 00:29:18,630
a massage therapist scaffolding
she wants to be like scaffolding

494
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:19,770
that makes sense.

495
00:29:19,860 --> 00:29:23,010
This is why this comes back to
the construction. She says right

496
00:29:23,010 --> 00:29:25,410
now in New Zealand because of
the you know, the big

497
00:29:25,410 --> 00:29:29,040
earthquakes they had. I remember
the really big one in Christ

498
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,200
Church and surrounding area and
they've had a couple of follow

499
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:37,830
ons. The government has has all
scaffolding in place. There's no

500
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:40,830
no more scaffolding in New
Zealand. So no one can build

501
00:29:40,830 --> 00:29:44,100
anything because all the
scaffolding has been slipped up

502
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:46,800
by the government and is outside
of you know, government

503
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,990
buildings, etc. And she's like,
this is the business and morons

504
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:58,110
can put it together. I'm in the
curry divorce Investment Group

505
00:29:58,140 --> 00:30:05,610
hedge fund are in so scaffold
scaffolding. Anyway, onward does

506
00:30:05,610 --> 00:30:10,290
sorry about the the sidetrack
Obama, as he announced this deal

507
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,220
throughout the V largest
performative I have ever seen

508
00:30:14,220 --> 00:30:18,450
him give, which I wanted to
share. And as you know, we have

509
00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:21,300
learned from performative that
when a politician most likely,

510
00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:24,750
but anyone is about to give you
a load of crap, and he's going

511
00:30:24,750 --> 00:30:28,770
to purposely lie, but without
lying, because he only is

512
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,400
referring back to the
performative that he uses, then

513
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,710
it's pretty much all bullcrap.
And it's a lie.

514
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:41,790
I'll give an example, please. In
fact, let me say this, about

515
00:30:41,790 --> 00:30:43,230
that. Exactly. You've done

516
00:30:43,230 --> 00:30:45,750
it already. So you're just
saying something you're not

517
00:30:45,780 --> 00:30:49,050
you're not say stating anything
is true, or a even as a brief?

518
00:30:49,770 --> 00:30:52,530
And then so everything after
that refers to what I just said,

519
00:30:52,530 --> 00:30:56,130
which is, let me say this about
that. Everybody's crazy. I mean,

520
00:30:56,130 --> 00:30:58,290
and then you've been, right,
it's got nothing to do with

521
00:30:58,290 --> 00:30:59,340
anything. No, you say,

522
00:30:59,460 --> 00:31:03,780
the president, tell the lie is
that he wants to work with

523
00:31:03,780 --> 00:31:07,110
everybody, and he'll do anything
necessary. And he wants to help

524
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:10,770
the people. And so Save the
Children and make the world a

525
00:31:10,770 --> 00:31:13,830
better place. That's the lie.
But he sets it up beautifully

526
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:16,590
with actually a Bill Clinton
asked performance

527
00:31:16,620 --> 00:31:20,250
immediately. And we can begin to
lift this cloud of uncertainty

528
00:31:20,250 --> 00:31:23,730
and unease from our businesses,
and from the American people.

529
00:31:24,330 --> 00:31:27,690
I'll have more to say about this
tomorrow. And I've got some

530
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,930
thoughts about how we can move
forward in the remainder of the

531
00:31:30,930 --> 00:31:36,390
year, stay focused on the job at
hand. Because there's a lot of

532
00:31:36,390 --> 00:31:39,060
work ahead of the standby,
including our need to earn back

533
00:31:39,090 --> 00:31:42,180
the trust of the American people
that's been lost over the last

534
00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:46,170
few weeks. And we can begin to
do that by addressing the real

535
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:49,440
issues that they care about. All
right, so here comes the Get

536
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,590
ready. I've said it before. I'll
say it again.

537
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:58,950
Wow, that is that's a Clinton
one. That's what Clinton knew.

538
00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:59,880
That's what Ray

539
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,310
said it before. And I'll say it
again,

540
00:32:02,429 --> 00:32:06,359
I'm willing to work with anybody
I'm eager to work with anybody,

541
00:32:06,629 --> 00:32:11,249
Democrat or Republican House or
Senate members on any idea that

542
00:32:11,249 --> 00:32:14,789
will grow our economy, create
new jobs, strengthen the middle

543
00:32:14,789 --> 00:32:17,699
class and get our fiscal house
in order.

544
00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:23,640
So clearly, you don't mean that
I said it before I'll say it

545
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:29,820
again. Fully actually that's so
at this point that's just

546
00:32:29,820 --> 00:32:33,780
insulting to the to the no
agenda, the audience. Oh, it for

547
00:32:33,780 --> 00:32:36,150
our Yeah, our group understands.
And then of course, we had

548
00:32:36,150 --> 00:32:39,930
something crazy happen. And I
knew it was going to happen. I

549
00:32:39,930 --> 00:32:43,890
knew something. I knew something
was up. I knew the signs were

550
00:32:43,890 --> 00:32:48,420
everywhere. When Senator Barb
What's her name again?

551
00:32:48,450 --> 00:32:54,840
McCluskey. Malinowski McCluskey,
Senator Barb, this old bag of

552
00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:00,180
wind throws out not once, not
twice, but three times as is

553
00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:02,130
perfect for the magic number.

554
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,600
Thank you very much, Mr.
President. I rise then to speak

555
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:13,530
for approximately 10 minutes.
objection. Mr. President, we're

556
00:33:13,530 --> 00:33:18,720
33 hours there it is one away
from the possible to false of

557
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,680
the United States of America on
its debt obligations. Now, that

558
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,150
was 33 hours of where it is,
again, from the possibility of

559
00:33:27,150 --> 00:33:34,170
the United States of America
becoming a deadbeat nation, not

560
00:33:34,860 --> 00:33:37,800
its bills not paying its bills

561
00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:41,729
to its own people and other
creditors. Hi.

562
00:33:41,940 --> 00:33:46,140
When do I get my bills paid by
my government? Oh, wait, one

563
00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:47,850
more. One more. One more. One
more.

564
00:33:47,879 --> 00:33:52,259
We're 33. He just doesn't stop

565
00:33:52,260 --> 00:33:55,260
that code is the code was
important because there was a

566
00:33:55,290 --> 00:33:59,130
bond trade that you could have
made because just before they

567
00:33:59,130 --> 00:34:01,980
passed all this stuff, they were
I was watching Bloomberg. And

568
00:34:01,980 --> 00:34:05,070
there was some guy on the on one
of the trading desk guys, and he

569
00:34:05,070 --> 00:34:09,300
had this computer. I mean, he
showed this spike on one of

570
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:11,880
these other some bond in
particular, that would have been

571
00:34:12,540 --> 00:34:15,540
the way he said this is the bond
that would be most affected. So

572
00:34:15,570 --> 00:34:19,140
it collapsed, because it would
be the if the government

573
00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:21,420
defaulted, supposedly, even
though we know it wouldn't have

574
00:34:21,420 --> 00:34:24,390
really done anything. But if the
if there was some situation that

575
00:34:24,390 --> 00:34:28,830
occurred, this was the one bond
that would have not been paid

576
00:34:28,830 --> 00:34:38,310
out. And right after she dropped
her 3333 33 If you had gone or

577
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:40,950
actually you if you've gone
short on that bond, and then

578
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:43,770
gone long on that bond within a
one hour period, you would have

579
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,680
probably made about five to 10x
your money. I mean, how

580
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,590
did you hear about this? And
more importantly, why did we not

581
00:34:49,590 --> 00:34:50,430
act on this?

582
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,040
This is the problem that the two
of us have

583
00:34:55,710 --> 00:34:56,970
cashflow we're really

584
00:34:56,969 --> 00:35:00,179
good at Monday morning
quarterbacking sitting In the

585
00:35:00,179 --> 00:35:04,619
couch sitting on the shelves
could have made money. We could

586
00:35:04,619 --> 00:35:05,609
have been in on that.

587
00:35:06,990 --> 00:35:10,980
Yeah, this is, this is quite the
quite the problem. Yes. Well, I

588
00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:16,290
took it differently. Although I
appreciate that analysis. And if

589
00:35:16,290 --> 00:35:19,410
there's any links I can throw
into the show notes at 557 dot

590
00:35:19,410 --> 00:35:22,860
na shownotes.com I'd love to do
that, then maybe you can send me

591
00:35:22,860 --> 00:35:27,060
some. So So yeah, we got a lot
of smart people who, who listen,

592
00:35:27,060 --> 00:35:29,280
who might be able to figure
something out and help, you

593
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,390
know, get us in early?

594
00:35:30,689 --> 00:35:33,359
Well, we there's another
opportunity coming up at the end

595
00:35:33,359 --> 00:35:36,929
of the year. Yeah. Where this
will all play out again, all

596
00:35:36,929 --> 00:35:39,779
over again, investments that you
can turn around real fast, you

597
00:35:39,779 --> 00:35:42,239
got to be done on your toes. So
you can't be sitting around. You

598
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,699
can't be working can't be
watching C span or something

599
00:35:44,729 --> 00:35:48,029
Donald's and spec to actually
pull this off. But if you're

600
00:35:48,029 --> 00:35:50,699
sitting at the terminal, you
could probably make some serious

601
00:35:50,699 --> 00:35:51,809
money really fast. I've

602
00:35:51,810 --> 00:35:55,470
always thought that if I gave up
everything I do, and only

603
00:35:55,470 --> 00:35:58,440
focused on like a level two
screen, and I just sat at home

604
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,320
and really played. I've always
thought I could do it. Have you

605
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,810
ever felt that you could really
do it? If you just did nothing

606
00:36:03,810 --> 00:36:04,260
else?

607
00:36:04,529 --> 00:36:07,379
People can do it. A friend of
mine actually does it. He used

608
00:36:07,379 --> 00:36:10,649
to be a publisher and he used to
have all these you work for a

609
00:36:10,649 --> 00:36:13,259
living and now all he does his
day trade. Yeah. And

610
00:36:13,259 --> 00:36:16,139
essentially, it's like, I think
I must have brought this up

611
00:36:16,139 --> 00:36:19,109
before. It's like the guy I knew
that used to be an HP engineer

612
00:36:19,859 --> 00:36:22,709
knew him pretty well, years ago,
and he was a professional poker

613
00:36:22,709 --> 00:36:28,739
player. And he says even the
most mediocre player, typically,

614
00:36:28,739 --> 00:36:31,559
and most poker players,
professional poker players make

615
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:36,719
about $125,000 a year playing
poker all the time. The problem

616
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,889
is, you have to be playing poker
all the time. Right? Right.

617
00:36:40,889 --> 00:36:44,099
You're essentially just
professionally playing poker all

618
00:36:44,099 --> 00:36:46,979
the time. And that's the same
thing with this. This is doesn't

619
00:36:46,979 --> 00:36:51,839
sound like a lot of fun for 125,
who was 125 million? Yeah, I

620
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:55,679
could see doing it. But for just
because you like playing poker.

621
00:36:56,099 --> 00:36:59,579
You know, you can make 125,000
He says, And this I think the

622
00:36:59,579 --> 00:37:02,759
guy who's playing the stock
market is probably doing okay,

623
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:06,089
but it's not, you know, well,
fun thing to do.

624
00:37:06,330 --> 00:37:10,050
Yeah, but at the same time, it's
show is more fun.

625
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:10,680
Oh, no,

626
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,340
this show was a lot more fun.
Even if we don't make poker

627
00:37:14,340 --> 00:37:18,600
money. But if I was playing the
market, you're still you're kind

628
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,700
of doing a little bit of what we
do for the show anyway,

629
00:37:24,090 --> 00:37:26,790
you can do a little bit of that
you have to but since the

630
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:30,420
markets rigged is what everybody
who plays the market tells you

631
00:37:30,420 --> 00:37:34,290
right? It makes it difficult
unless you're kind of part of

632
00:37:34,620 --> 00:37:37,680
their some scheme or you're you
know, in the mob and you're part

633
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,490
of a pump and dumper. You get
some sort of insight inside or

634
00:37:41,490 --> 00:37:42,810
you're part of Congress.

635
00:37:43,140 --> 00:37:45,780
You got to be on this. And you
know, I know Annie Duke, she

636
00:37:45,780 --> 00:37:50,430
used to live near us in when we
lived in Los Angeles. And I had

637
00:37:50,430 --> 00:37:52,890
her up to the house a couple of
times, because she'd released

638
00:37:52,890 --> 00:37:55,920
books about you know, I had the
big book show. I was doing it

639
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,760
actively. And, and I was looked
at it because she was one of the

640
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,920
people she has plays poker. In
fact, she started the poker

641
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,470
League, I believe I have no idea
where that is. And you know, the

642
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:08,430
whole idea is to sell television
rights or have control rights

643
00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:13,080
over poker playing on TV. And
you know, she's she has the

644
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,220
potential to be super hot. But
she just looks ragged from the

645
00:38:17,220 --> 00:38:22,200
poker. It's just looking at her
like, girl, you know, she has

646
00:38:22,890 --> 00:38:24,300
real potential, but

647
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:26,130
you drew sitting on your butt.

648
00:38:26,850 --> 00:38:30,000
And her butt was the thing that
was the biggest problem. Like

649
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,210
you gotta get off of that. But
girl, damn.

650
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,840
No, that's not a business I'd
want to be in.

651
00:38:37,470 --> 00:38:41,640
Anyway, I took this 33 as a
warning for something weird to

652
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,730
happen. And boy did it ever
right near the end of this vote

653
00:38:44,730 --> 00:38:45,180
and to share you

654
00:38:45,180 --> 00:38:47,970
the comments of the president.
Also, this is from C span. You

655
00:38:47,970 --> 00:38:50,820
may have seen at the very end of
the vote that a woman came to

656
00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:53,880
the de us and was speaking to
mics were off. Those mics are

657
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,850
controlled by the House Radio
and TV gallery. The microphones

658
00:38:56,850 --> 00:39:00,090
were off. But here's the
reporting of Jamie Dupree from

659
00:39:00,090 --> 00:39:03,810
Cox radio on that issue. He says
one of the house demographers

660
00:39:03,810 --> 00:39:07,620
had to be taken off the floor.
After getting up and screaming

661
00:39:07,650 --> 00:39:09,900
during the vote. We'll update
that story

662
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:13,890
as we are. So I'm looking at
this and I have two pieces of

663
00:39:13,890 --> 00:39:17,460
audio to play. And they don't
match up which is the

664
00:39:17,460 --> 00:39:23,580
infuriating thing. There was a
an NPR reporter who I guess he

665
00:39:23,580 --> 00:39:28,560
has his own control over things.
Because he started tweeting a

666
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,350
SoundCloud file it says oh my
god, I've recorded this woman's

667
00:39:31,350 --> 00:39:36,360
crazy rant. So the first I'll
play the, the audio, the real

668
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:43,200
the wild audio, where the the
the where they called the Madam

669
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,550
President, is is gaveling This
woman to get her to try to shut

670
00:39:47,550 --> 00:39:51,210
up. So she's just hammering away
and this lady's Yellin You can't

671
00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:56,880
really hear what she's saying.
But the audio that the that the

672
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,670
NPR guy recorded doesn't have
any of the gaveling in it. So

673
00:39:59,670 --> 00:40:01,140
here's the The wild audio first

674
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:08,850
speech of the month Don't touch
me. He will not be the greatest

675
00:40:08,850 --> 00:40:14,940
deception here is this is not
one nation under God. It never

676
00:40:14,940 --> 00:40:18,240
was. Had it been, it would not
have been.

677
00:40:18,509 --> 00:40:21,389
So this is actually the the wild
audio. It sounds like she's no

678
00:40:21,389 --> 00:40:24,749
longer in the in the house. It
sounds like she's in the

679
00:40:24,749 --> 00:40:28,799
hallway. And her name is
supposedly Denise. But I think

680
00:40:28,799 --> 00:40:30,659
someone calls her Molly at some
point.

681
00:40:31,649 --> 00:40:32,159
No

682
00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:41,280
written by Freemasons, they go
against God

683
00:40:50,010 --> 00:40:55,260
Jesus Christ. I'm thinking she
got one of those emails about

684
00:40:55,260 --> 00:40:57,360
Satan or something. And she's
like,

685
00:40:57,810 --> 00:40:59,520
so wife swappers. Yeah,

686
00:40:59,940 --> 00:41:03,540
here's here's this to take part.
So this is not the same audio as

687
00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:04,290
what has yet

688
00:41:04,290 --> 00:41:07,020
nothing to do with the 33. I'm
telling you, the 33 was a coded

689
00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:08,430
message got people to go

690
00:41:08,430 --> 00:41:10,830
along. I'm already there. I'm
just saying that something

691
00:41:10,830 --> 00:41:14,340
happened. And we're just we've
moved on. We've moved on from

692
00:41:15,540 --> 00:41:18,990
what was so some crazy woman

693
00:41:19,020 --> 00:41:24,090
Well, hold on a second. Hold on
a second. You can't just pass

694
00:41:24,090 --> 00:41:27,450
this off as just some crazy
woman starts. She was a pet

695
00:41:27,450 --> 00:41:31,320
according to what the official
report is. She was she's a

696
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,070
stenographer who has been there
for many years. And she's and

697
00:41:35,070 --> 00:41:38,130
this is supposed to be her. We
don't know that for sure.

698
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:41,610
Because now apparently,
someone's name is Molly. And

699
00:41:41,610 --> 00:41:45,000
she's yelling about, you know,
the, the Freemasons didn't write

700
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,430
the constitution, they would
never do that. You can't I mean,

701
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:55,470
she's obviously it's going off
in a atypical manner. And this

702
00:41:55,470 --> 00:41:58,050
is the wild sound, which I
thought it sounded like people

703
00:41:58,050 --> 00:41:59,910
were yelling Allahu Akbar, quite
honestly.

704
00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:10,770
seen our hammering her out

705
00:42:23,550 --> 00:42:26,340
now she's getting hauled off. So
it's clearly not the same

706
00:42:26,340 --> 00:42:27,780
recording at all.

707
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:31,320
No, this is something else. But
you're right. The other one was

708
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,230
done in the hall. Yeah, the
queue into the hallway where

709
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:36,720
they could put them, they can
mic her, or has stick a mic in

710
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:39,540
her face. And then she she
continued her rant in the

711
00:42:39,540 --> 00:42:43,380
hallway. We have no idea what
the premise was, because I would

712
00:42:43,380 --> 00:42:45,870
have been on the floor of the
Congress. She's just bitching,

713
00:42:46,110 --> 00:42:51,450
moaning about some. Well, it's,
you think that she was triggered

714
00:42:51,450 --> 00:42:55,050
by some? Some, you know, some
code word. Next thing? You know,

715
00:42:55,050 --> 00:42:56,040
she's going nuts.

716
00:42:56,070 --> 00:42:59,400
She was talking to a couple guys
look like she was talking to

717
00:43:00,630 --> 00:43:02,880
members of the House. And then
she I mean, if you look at the

718
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,710
video, you can see it. She's
talking to some guys and she

719
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:08,010
walks over, she walks right up
and just starts yelling, and you

720
00:43:08,010 --> 00:43:11,130
can hear if you really listen,
you can hear some things. But

721
00:43:11,130 --> 00:43:13,380
it's not. We're not sure at all
that this is what she was

722
00:43:13,380 --> 00:43:15,930
yelling about this could it
could be two separate incidents.

723
00:43:15,930 --> 00:43:19,410
But it shouldn't be just one.
You can't just pass over that

724
00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:23,760
when you have a woman shot to
death and unarmed mom shot to

725
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:30,120
death outside because oh, she's
crazy. You know, and why didn't

726
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,330
they shoot her to death? Why
don't we have a big ceremony

727
00:43:33,330 --> 00:43:37,380
right now thanking the sergeant
in arms for protecting them from

728
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:40,320
the crazy lady, another armed
unarmed crazy lady,

729
00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:43,380
another unarmed mom. Yeah. Why
don't we have that?

730
00:43:43,410 --> 00:43:45,990
You? Why is this just being
glossed over? I don't I don't

731
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:48,750
think that's appropriate. I'd
like to know what's happening.

732
00:43:49,950 --> 00:43:55,560
Yeah, and because yes, I am
concerned about the drugs people

733
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,970
are being prescribed. And I
think I'm I'm on the Abilify

734
00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:02,970
tip. Now. I think Abilify is the
one that's that's pushing people

735
00:44:02,970 --> 00:44:04,290
over the edge. That

736
00:44:04,799 --> 00:44:07,679
Yeah, Ben because it's always an
additive drug. So it's not you

737
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:10,109
don't take Abilify by itself
from what I can tell.

738
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,910
Well, at parties you can

739
00:44:14,310 --> 00:44:15,180
what a party.

740
00:44:15,450 --> 00:44:17,910
Yeah, if you party, you just
take an immense pop and Abilify,

741
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:23,790
but it's good. The only the only
difference is for the first time

742
00:44:23,790 --> 00:44:29,580
in three attempts. This was not
a black person. Which is another

743
00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:31,950
thing that is just not being
discussed, and I'll bring it up

744
00:44:31,950 --> 00:44:34,410
here. It's crazy. No one just
says it

745
00:44:34,590 --> 00:44:38,010
and attempted a prank could land
one California man behind bars.

746
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,830
Police arrested a baggage
handler for allegedly planting

747
00:44:40,830 --> 00:44:43,830
those dry ice bombs around Los
Angeles International Airport

748
00:44:43,830 --> 00:44:47,700
this week. officers arrested
DeCarlo Bennett last night. They

749
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:50,970
say then it admitted to planning
the devices and blowing them up

750
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,010
but he says it was just a prank

751
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,670
another black guy. So we've had
the black guy Navy Yard shooter

752
00:44:56,670 --> 00:45:00,420
we've had the black unarmed
mother who was was not shooting

753
00:45:00,420 --> 00:45:04,740
anything but was killed. Oh, by
the way whose lawyer was

754
00:45:04,740 --> 00:45:10,950
arrested? And who so Miriam
Carey sister has been denied

755
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:18,090
custody of, of her sister's 14
month old girl. So she can't get

756
00:45:18,090 --> 00:45:20,670
that the lawyer the family
lawyer says, Oh, this is not

757
00:45:20,670 --> 00:45:24,420
over yet. Boom next day, he's
arrested on like bankruptcy

758
00:45:24,420 --> 00:45:29,730
charges and is thrown in jail.
Yeah. And none of this is weird

759
00:45:31,350 --> 00:45:38,880
at all, and then fine. Oh, and
normally crazy people are white

760
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,660
rednecks if we just want to
stereotype and generalize from

761
00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:46,800
the south with AR fifteens. To
what what is going on and why is

762
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,980
no one saying you know, hey,
this is interesting. This is not

763
00:45:49,980 --> 00:45:53,520
the typical profile it's not a
sovereign citizen doing this

764
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,020
it's it's people who are
probably likely to have been on

765
00:45:58,050 --> 00:46:03,990
the vilify Yes. And, and in the
neighborhood of God knows what

766
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:09,630
kind of external factors which
could be radio waves or

767
00:46:09,630 --> 00:46:13,860
whatever. To this, so this lady
was white, but we don't know

768
00:46:13,860 --> 00:46:16,710
when this will pass. We will not
hear a single thing and I find

769
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:23,130
that uncharacteristically
annoying of the press.

770
00:46:23,970 --> 00:46:25,170
No, you don't. Yeah, I

771
00:46:25,170 --> 00:46:27,420
do. Right? It's very
characteristically

772
00:46:27,420 --> 00:46:33,540
annoying. uncharacteristic at
all

773
00:46:33,570 --> 00:46:36,270
look at how they blew up all the
Yes, they've blown up all these

774
00:46:36,270 --> 00:46:38,370
other stories. And now this one
is just oh, that's

775
00:46:38,370 --> 00:46:44,640
what they do. Yeah. Okay,
they've been doing that. Since

776
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,650
we started the show, and before
actually, he has been doing that

777
00:46:46,650 --> 00:46:50,040
since the 1920s. Yeah, that's
true. Well, then only there.

778
00:46:50,070 --> 00:46:52,020
Yes. If you fill all your
chairs, no, no,

779
00:46:52,410 --> 00:46:53,610
you crap.

780
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,470
We'd rather have stories like
this. Like what? Man over here

781
00:46:58,470 --> 00:47:03,360
sad tale and diner secretly
plays pays for meal. When one

782
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,520
mystery diner in Boston
restaurant in a Boston

783
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,220
restaurant overheard a mother
and daughter gets some bad news.

784
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,250
He took out a pen and scribbled
this note to his waiter. Do me a

785
00:47:11,250 --> 00:47:14,940
favor and bring me their check
to someone just got diagnosed.

786
00:47:14,940 --> 00:47:17,550
Don't tell them. A waiter
impressed by his customers

787
00:47:17,550 --> 00:47:22,800
active. Oh, oh boy, kindness
posted it on Reddit. We're glad

788
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,560
he did. Now that we have our
faith in humanity restored to

789
00:47:25,740 --> 00:47:29,250
the GWOT waiter known as whisk
guys on Reddit writes that the

790
00:47:29,250 --> 00:47:31,590
two women started crying after
the daughter received a phone

791
00:47:31,590 --> 00:47:34,050
call mid meal and that he then
combined the two bills as

792
00:47:34,050 --> 00:47:36,630
requested. I waited until the
guy left and told them that they

793
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:39,270
he had taken care of their check
and that he had said Best

794
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:42,690
wishes, which was what he had
said on the note he wrote me in

795
00:47:42,690 --> 00:47:47,460
the second bill. The mother
cried even harder. I almost lost

796
00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:47,820
it.

797
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,780
Yeah, that's the kind of that's
the kind of story we want. Now

798
00:47:55,830 --> 00:47:59,700
Oh my second now I have to find
this this thing. Oh, God started

799
00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:04,860
today. This this. This is the
story of the day Hold on a

800
00:48:04,860 --> 00:48:05,280
second.

801
00:48:05,340 --> 00:48:08,430
Oreos are just as addictive as
cocaine.

802
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:15,330
That's the jingle version.
Here's the full soundbite.

803
00:48:15,420 --> 00:48:19,470
Oreos are just as addictive as
cocaine. That's according to a

804
00:48:19,470 --> 00:48:22,620
study from Connecticut College.
Researchers found that eating

805
00:48:22,650 --> 00:48:26,130
Oreos activated more neurons in
the pleasure center.

806
00:48:26,970 --> 00:48:28,260
drains and exposure to

807
00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:31,620
the pleasure center. What is she
thinking of her own pleasure

808
00:48:31,620 --> 00:48:35,400
center when she's doing this
read in the pleasure center or

809
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,090
morphine?

810
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:38,760
To get a job in Hollywood with
his app?

811
00:48:38,820 --> 00:48:39,690
I don't know.

812
00:48:40,050 --> 00:48:43,230
That's like most humans. Rats
like to eat the Oreo cookies

813
00:48:43,230 --> 00:48:44,550
creamy metal first.

814
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:50,220
Oh, man. Yeah. Can you believe
that? You just read that? Yeah,

815
00:48:50,220 --> 00:48:55,290
you did. You really did. Sorry
to say? Yeah, that's Are you are

816
00:48:55,290 --> 00:48:58,860
you there? Because you've been
cutting out a little bit. I

817
00:48:58,860 --> 00:49:01,590
didn't think so. I have a
feeling we gotta check.

818
00:49:02,370 --> 00:49:05,040
Oh, crap. She's flipped for the
day.

819
00:49:05,220 --> 00:49:09,000
Oh, thank you. Well, the
question is, is it the long clip

820
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:10,140
or the short clip that is

821
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,380
the middle part that's the clip
of the day old.

822
00:49:16,830 --> 00:49:19,830
Oreos are just as addictive as
cocaine.

823
00:49:22,020 --> 00:49:23,310
I love how she says it.

824
00:49:23,730 --> 00:49:25,710
Yeah, you know, she's got a lot
of she's like,

825
00:49:25,710 --> 00:49:29,610
Yeah, I'm really enthusiastic
about the cocaine business.

826
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:31,620
She's obviously you got
something going on.

827
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,260
Carroll CNN.

828
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,690
A kind of evergreen submission.
I'm going to discuss a new part

829
00:49:39,690 --> 00:49:42,330
of the show, at least from my
perspective, from my side,

830
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:47,160
you're going to hear things that
I think should be evergreen

831
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,470
clips and then I'm going to
present them to you to either

832
00:49:49,470 --> 00:49:52,680
approve or disapprove or put in
the evergreens and never use

833
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,370
again, which is typically what
happens. But please try this

834
00:49:56,370 --> 00:50:00,840
evergreen submission. Okay, so
the interesting This is

835
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,580
information The world needs to
know. We still think just a

836
00:50:05,580 --> 00:50:06,330
little website.

837
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,300
Yeah. Okay. This is about the
this is the Fifth Estate.

838
00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:15,870
This is something the world
needs to know.

839
00:50:15,900 --> 00:50:21,810
You know, Julian Assange A is
pissed off about this movie is

840
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:25,710
Oh my goodness. Hold on. I have
one more time. Okay, hold on.

841
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,280
We'll put it into the
evergreens. This is information

842
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:34,110
The world needs to know. This
beyond just a little website.

843
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:41,340
Yeah, he is. He's pissed off. He
was on. Good for him. Let me

844
00:50:41,340 --> 00:50:43,170
thank him. I got to see what
this I have to clip.

845
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,480
Me. This movie's got to be a
hilarious kind of a parody or I

846
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,550
don't I'm sure it's filled with
government propaganda.

847
00:50:50,580 --> 00:50:55,200
Here's, well, here's, here's
what he had. This is a two

848
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,840
parter. Really. Here's the first
part where he's being

849
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,700
interviewed by George
Stephanopoulos for ABC. And

850
00:51:02,730 --> 00:51:09,510
Stephanopoulos even sets it up.
Well, I think it's this one.

851
00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:10,800
This is what we need. The Fifth
Estate

852
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,960
is being distributed by
Touchstone Pictures division of

853
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:18,270
ABCs parent company Disney and
without. That says it all

854
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,640
continue the debate. We turn
live to Julian Assange. She

855
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,100
joins us from the Ecuadorian
embassy in London.

856
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,800
And I wonder is he still at the
Ecuadorian embassy is he is

857
00:51:25,830 --> 00:51:28,410
yours at this point, just a
bookcase in his in his house

858
00:51:28,410 --> 00:51:30,270
somewhere in his bunker wherever
he's living.

859
00:51:30,779 --> 00:51:33,089
He could have snuck him out
somehow. Well, I'm

860
00:51:33,090 --> 00:51:34,470
sure they get him out once in a
while. Thank

861
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:37,470
you for joining us again, Mr.
Assange. And you heard Benedict

862
00:51:37,470 --> 00:51:40,620
Cumberbatch there. He says he
tried to neither glorify nor

863
00:51:40,620 --> 00:51:44,100
vilify you. And the film
celebrates many of the what he

864
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:47,370
calls the great things that
Wikileaks has done. Do you

865
00:51:47,370 --> 00:51:48,030
accept that?

866
00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:56,280
Well, Mr. Cumberbatch wrote me a
charming, very polite letter.

867
00:51:56,700 --> 00:52:01,890
And with genuine concerns about
the nature of the script being

868
00:52:01,890 --> 00:52:06,840
used in that film. He's reported
to have said to Vogon, to The

869
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:13,410
Guardian, that he had fights
with the director, who wanted to

870
00:52:13,650 --> 00:52:18,420
present me as a, quote, cartoon
baddie. That's Mr. Cumberbatch,

871
00:52:18,420 --> 00:52:21,630
his words, I don't want to put
words into his addition. This

872
00:52:21,630 --> 00:52:25,140
is where Julian Assange, by the
way jumps the shark tunnel words

873
00:52:25,140 --> 00:52:28,710
into his mouth. But of course,
he he is under a contract and is

874
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:32,790
limited to what he can say in
the film. I do know that he

875
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:40,320
tried to ameliorate some of the
worst elements of the script.

876
00:52:40,380 --> 00:52:44,070
But unfortunately, with limited
success, what's your biggest

877
00:52:44,070 --> 00:52:45,270
complaint? Please try it.

878
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:47,430
What's your biggest complaint
that the film

879
00:52:49,170 --> 00:52:52,620
I don't know where to begin? I
mean, we script well, before

880
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,190
this happened, there was no
approach to us are by DreamWorks

881
00:52:56,190 --> 00:53:00,270
in any formal capacity
whatsoever, informal approach by

882
00:53:00,270 --> 00:53:04,050
Benedict Cumberbatch just days
before shooting, shooting began.

883
00:53:04,740 --> 00:53:09,000
This is a film that is based
upon my life's work, the work of

884
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,840
my organization. We have people
in extremely serious situations.

885
00:53:13,470 --> 00:53:14,340
Sarah Harrison,

886
00:53:14,670 --> 00:53:19,290
now. So he is he's now he said,
he's about to say that they are

887
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,010
irresponsible filmmaking, which
is hello, pot kettle callings.

888
00:53:23,010 --> 00:53:26,850
Like this is the guy who's the
radical whistleblowing

889
00:53:26,850 --> 00:53:30,690
publishing, you know, get
everyone out in the open. Now

890
00:53:30,690 --> 00:53:34,770
he's being screwed by the
system. And his girlfriend,

891
00:53:34,770 --> 00:53:37,020
which is Sarah Harris. And now
they're going to keep coming

892
00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:41,310
back to Sarah Harrison, which I
think Stephanopoulos is poking

893
00:53:41,310 --> 00:53:44,130
because it's pretty well known
that Sarah Harrison came in as

894
00:53:44,130 --> 00:53:48,720
an intern, Assange started
giving her the special wiki

895
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:53,430
stick, and she became like, you
know, the senior legal counsel

896
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:56,640
at WikiLeaks, and she apparently
is now with Snowden in Russia,

897
00:53:57,210 --> 00:54:00,750
or wherever, wherever she's
hiding out. And I think that

898
00:54:00,750 --> 00:54:05,160
Stephanopoulos his job here is
to bind her to know to tweet to

899
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,460
tweet Julian's nipples about
about this because she's kind of

900
00:54:08,460 --> 00:54:10,800
hot. Oh, seeing was no

901
00:54:10,830 --> 00:54:14,700
possibility that she's Yeah,
actually the nail is no, yes.

902
00:54:14,910 --> 00:54:19,140
Yes, yes. Yeah. It was found out
of Hong Kong, now effectively in

903
00:54:19,140 --> 00:54:22,500
exile in Russia because of the
terrorist investigation here.

904
00:54:22,770 --> 00:54:25,950
Jeremy had Hammond knowledge
media source to 25

905
00:54:25,950 --> 00:54:27,030
organizations, including

906
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:29,610
ours, and no one cares. We're
gonna go back to Sarah Harrison.

907
00:54:29,610 --> 00:54:29,760
This

908
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,940
is what George will do for
sentencing in under a month's

909
00:54:32,940 --> 00:54:37,830
time, an ongoing grand jury
investigation. What are the

910
00:54:37,980 --> 00:54:41,040
responsibilities for ethical
filmmaker,

911
00:54:41,370 --> 00:54:45,060
responsibility for ethical
filmmaking immediate, the movie

912
00:54:45,060 --> 00:54:49,860
about me, is not fear. I told my
hard work and not making all the

913
00:54:49,860 --> 00:54:50,370
money in

914
00:54:50,370 --> 00:54:54,450
that context. None of the
suggested changes that we sent

915
00:54:55,110 --> 00:54:59,970
to Participant Media. I didn't
get a writer credit ended up

916
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,870
Even in the final text of the
film, and but there's been a big

917
00:55:03,870 --> 00:55:06,060
cashing in that has gone Oh,
there

918
00:55:06,060 --> 00:55:10,470
she is real beef. Oh, everyone's
making money but he's really not

919
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:11,820
now Now let's get let's get back
to

920
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,870
New York about that Tupac was my
piece of the actual

921
00:55:15,870 --> 00:55:19,170
Yeah, well, dude this is you
know you're a martyr this is

922
00:55:19,170 --> 00:55:23,130
what this is how it is dude. And
now let's talk his nipple about

923
00:55:23,130 --> 00:55:23,820
saris

924
00:55:24,270 --> 00:55:27,210
ritual organization that is he
he's trying

925
00:55:27,210 --> 00:55:29,100
to get in there but the
satellite delay is messenger.

926
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:29,400
Yeah.

927
00:55:29,490 --> 00:55:31,260
And you mentioned Sarah
Harrison, as you said, it's the

928
00:55:31,260 --> 00:55:32,250
ritual organization,

929
00:55:32,250 --> 00:55:36,330
DreamWorks, it's making a lot of
money. Tris is intending to make

930
00:55:36,330 --> 00:55:39,510
a lot of money from this
process. But none of there's no

931
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:44,280
contribution to our defense fund
to the Defense Fund of our lead

932
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,360
sources. And so

933
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,460
let me move on to Sarah
Harrison, as you said, She's

934
00:55:47,460 --> 00:55:50,130
with Edward Snowden. We saw
Edward Snowden this week receive

935
00:55:50,130 --> 00:55:52,140
an award from four American
whistleblowers,

936
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,260
that he's also going to throw
this in his face. Hey, how's

937
00:55:55,260 --> 00:55:58,110
that award you've gotten? Oh,
I'm sorry. You don't have any

938
00:55:58,110 --> 00:56:02,400
awards and listen to him. He
takes the bait. You can hear him

939
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,420
being spiteful,

940
00:56:03,450 --> 00:56:06,450
who travelled over to meet with
him. And it was something that

941
00:56:06,450 --> 00:56:09,630
was facilitated by WikiLeaks, of
course, Sarah Harrison, a Prime

942
00:56:09,630 --> 00:56:12,360
member of WikiLeaks, as well,
she's been with Snowden

943
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,450
throughout his time in Russia.
What can you tell us about how

944
00:56:15,450 --> 00:56:16,260
Edward Snowden

945
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,740
is doing so it's basically
saying so your girlfriend was

946
00:56:19,740 --> 00:56:23,040
over there during the award
ceremony with the with Ed

947
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,620
Snowden. Hey, how do you spend a

948
00:56:25,620 --> 00:56:27,060
lot of time with Yeah,

949
00:56:27,089 --> 00:56:28,259
she's in exile with

950
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,660
what you're doing with him
anyway. thing

951
00:56:31,379 --> 00:56:33,359
protecting his human rights No,

952
00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:35,190
next for him and for Sarah
Harrison.

953
00:56:38,490 --> 00:56:43,140
Edward Snowden is safe. We
through a lot of work is in

954
00:56:43,140 --> 00:56:47,250
particularly by Sarah Harrison
managed to gain asylum in

955
00:56:47,250 --> 00:56:52,560
Russia. Our attempts to gain him
asylum in South America were

956
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,580
thwarted in a very bizarre
manner by the State Department

957
00:56:56,580 --> 00:57:00,150
by denying by canceling his
passport while he was in Moscow.

958
00:57:01,140 --> 00:57:03,930
Sorry, that's bullcrap. But
okay, we bumped down.

959
00:57:04,860 --> 00:57:11,550
He's safe. He's working to
educate people, the journalists

960
00:57:11,550 --> 00:57:15,120
involved in these in these
disclosures as to what is going

961
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,350
on. He very rightly received
that award from a former NSA,

962
00:57:19,350 --> 00:57:23,190
CIA, FBI and DOJ whistleblowers.

963
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,100
You hear what he's doing here?
He's like, Oh, yeah, no, he's

964
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:28,740
clearly you know, yes. No,
that's fine. He received that

965
00:57:28,740 --> 00:57:32,340
award from the whistleblowers.
That was right on Yeah, I get

966
00:57:33,150 --> 00:57:37,620
an award. I get no money awards
come out. I get nothing in my

967
00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:39,750
girlfriend, screwing with this
other

968
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:46,380
day. Tegrity. That's a serious
matter. It's a threat to us

969
00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:50,190
democracy and to democracy more
broadly in the west, to have a

970
00:57:50,190 --> 00:57:54,930
surveillance apparatus on every
single person. That would have

971
00:57:54,930 --> 00:57:57,510
been the dream of East Germany.

972
00:57:57,540 --> 00:58:00,690
Yeah. And meanwhile, he's
screwing my girlfriend. This is

973
00:58:00,690 --> 00:58:04,440
not okay. You watch it. This is
this is you watch. I guarantee

974
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,420
you they're about to stick it to
him.

975
00:58:06,810 --> 00:58:09,870
What's there to watch? We could
see coming down Broadway, but

976
00:58:09,870 --> 00:58:12,870
it's so much fun because like
Sarah Harris, and she's, she's

977
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:15,510
hot. She's a hot day, as

978
00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:20,010
are moments of she's probably a
lot of fun. I bet. She looks

979
00:58:20,010 --> 00:58:20,910
like a fun girl.

980
00:58:22,890 --> 00:58:25,500
And then, ultimately, I've
discovered

981
00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:27,900
Robbie has a New Zealand frame
of mind.

982
00:58:30,420 --> 00:58:35,010
Neyland Bale, maybe she's into
scaffolding. Who knows? Here's,

983
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:38,130
so here's the final advice that
I had to take away from this

984
00:58:38,130 --> 00:58:41,790
interview. You and I are doing
it all wrong. John, the if you

985
00:58:41,790 --> 00:58:45,990
if you want to. I mean, you
know, we I think I believe we

986
00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:51,300
challenge our government twice a
week. At least we challenge the

987
00:58:51,300 --> 00:58:57,060
narrative, we challenge the
story. We we do research, we

988
00:58:57,060 --> 00:59:01,920
really work on trying to uncover
what is going on. Our problem is

989
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,100
we're doing it in America. This
is where we're this is where

990
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:05,940
we're stupid.

991
00:59:08,610 --> 00:59:11,790
Well, I would leave US Embassy,
you know, it's a it's a it's a

992
00:59:11,790 --> 00:59:15,930
bit of a prison in some way. But
I have good people here. But

993
00:59:15,930 --> 00:59:22,470
where would I go to? I would end
up in the outside world with

994
00:59:22,530 --> 00:59:23,130
fewer.

995
00:59:23,550 --> 00:59:26,130
Yeah, this is where we are on
the outside world. It's very

996
00:59:26,130 --> 00:59:27,180
it's horrible here what is

997
00:59:27,210 --> 00:59:29,850
happening to the outside world.
That's a much bigger

998
00:59:29,850 --> 00:59:32,790
consideration is a big
consideration for me and my

999
00:59:32,790 --> 00:59:35,670
staff and the 12 different legal
actions we have going in

1000
00:59:35,670 --> 00:59:38,580
different different countries.
But it's a consideration for

1001
00:59:38,580 --> 00:59:42,930
everyone. What type of place is
Western democracy going to be?

1002
00:59:43,230 --> 00:59:47,220
Is it going to be a place that
with a collapsing rule of law?

1003
00:59:47,220 --> 00:59:53,610
Oh, yeah. Mess isolations all
the crap. Where I

1004
00:59:53,610 --> 00:59:55,170
can't find her. Where's that
siren is coming

1005
00:59:55,170 --> 00:59:57,990
from? It's outside his cabin
where he's suffering from cabin

1006
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:58,740
fever. Cool.

1007
00:59:58,980 --> 01:00:01,740
Does that sound like a Brit?
siren Do you? Yes, yes, it does.

1008
01:00:01,770 --> 01:00:02,160
It does

1009
01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:06,390
have a totalitarian regime. We
don't yet have a totalitarian

1010
01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:10,110
regime but we have getting
pretty close and impractical. Is

1011
01:00:10,110 --> 01:00:11,790
it going to cross over into
something else?

1012
01:00:11,820 --> 01:00:16,200
Now let's hear about the people
who really know how to to blow

1013
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,690
things open. It's not us because
we're in America would

1014
01:00:18,690 --> 01:00:21,840
be a hard place for
investigative organization like

1015
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:26,520
WikiLeaks to work in. It is a
hard place for Glenn Greenwald.

1016
01:00:26,580 --> 01:00:28,920
He's now an effective exile in
Brazil.

1017
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:33,990
Effective exile in Britain. Play
the BS clip he's not in effect.

1018
01:00:35,250 --> 01:00:35,910
He's not in a

1019
01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:40,320
boyfriend in Brazil. Yes, he's
not an effective exile.

1020
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,990
But wait, there's more are
portraits and effective exile in

1021
01:00:42,990 --> 01:00:46,500
Germany is not an effective
exile she's living in

1022
01:00:46,530 --> 01:00:48,810
Berlin. I want to give you this

1023
01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:53,070
close to the Chaos Computer Club
and the brand new German

1024
01:00:53,580 --> 01:00:56,670
intelligence agency building is
right around the corner.

1025
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,610
Berlin you Berlin is a party
place it historically has always

1026
01:01:02,610 --> 01:01:03,630
been held in

1027
01:01:03,630 --> 01:01:07,290
Brazil. Portraits in effective
exile in Germany. Sarah Harrison

1028
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,960
a UK citizen ineffective exile
in Russia

1029
01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:15,360
yeah Sarah Harrison ineffective
exile writing the Paul

1030
01:01:16,140 --> 01:01:20,010
asylum in Russia me asylum here
the West is becoming a place

1031
01:01:20,490 --> 01:01:24,630
where the best and the brightest
who keep the government hold the

1032
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:29,700
government to account ending up
in asylum or in exile in other

1033
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:30,360
countries we

1034
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:35,610
aren't doing this wrong in
Germany we are doing this wrong

1035
01:01:35,610 --> 01:01:37,560
You and I we have to go into
exile.

1036
01:01:38,190 --> 01:01:40,020
Yeah, I mean they excel already.

1037
01:01:41,070 --> 01:01:44,160
This Texas is not part of
America by the way. I'm an exile

1038
01:01:44,370 --> 01:01:46,170
effective. I mean effective

1039
01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:49,260
exile in Texas effective exile

1040
01:01:49,290 --> 01:01:54,090
on exile in Texas. I'm effective

1041
01:01:54,090 --> 01:01:57,090
exile in my office, which I
can't seem to clean up.

1042
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,560
That is a FEMA Region disaster
site.

1043
01:02:02,129 --> 01:02:03,659
FEMA Region nine

1044
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:08,250
Well, let me say in the morning
to you John C. Dvorak.

1045
01:02:08,460 --> 01:02:10,470
Well, in the morning, do you
Adam curry in the morning all

1046
01:02:10,470 --> 01:02:12,570
ships at sea boots on the ground
feet in the air subs in the

1047
01:02:12,570 --> 01:02:14,460
water and all the games and
nights out there and

1048
01:02:14,460 --> 01:02:18,390
in the morning to our human
resources in the chat room. No

1049
01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:21,420
agenda stream.com no agenda
chat. dotnet thank you all for

1050
01:02:21,420 --> 01:02:24,060
showing up. Very nice to have
you here. In the morning to all

1051
01:02:24,060 --> 01:02:27,240
of our artists in particular
Patrick boughs who was the

1052
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:31,260
artist who scored the artwork
for album artwork for episode

1053
01:02:31,260 --> 01:02:35,340
556. We always look forward to
seeing what you can bring to the

1054
01:02:35,340 --> 01:02:38,640
table for no agenda art.
generator.com is where you can

1055
01:02:38,670 --> 01:02:46,200
submit and the Ron Boyd who is
the developer behind the no

1056
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,290
agenda, karma generator app,
which you can you can just go to

1057
01:02:49,290 --> 01:02:53,280
the app store and find that I
think it's only for iOS. He is

1058
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,510
working on. He'd sent me a nice
note and he says, Hey, I'm going

1059
01:02:57,510 --> 01:03:00,900
to start working on on the iBook
for you guys with the album art.

1060
01:03:02,130 --> 01:03:03,180
And we talked about that.

1061
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:07,950
Yeah, we did now. Yeah, yeah, we
did. We just is I book is that

1062
01:03:07,980 --> 01:03:09,930
so it goes into the eye
bookstores deal.

1063
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,710
Yeah. I remember I remember the
the right. Casting lady would

1064
01:03:13,710 --> 01:03:16,110
promote it for us the new then
Right, right. Right. Right.

1065
01:03:16,110 --> 01:03:19,080
Right. So I thought that'd be
good. And then she links it

1066
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,660
together. And you know, she'll
put on like, the iBooks page.

1067
01:03:21,660 --> 01:03:24,930
She'll link it to the podcast,
and she's really smart. Yeah.

1068
01:03:25,590 --> 01:03:28,830
She's Oh, that's great. I just
wanted to throw that out there.

1069
01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:32,850
Well, hopefully that'll work. We
do have a few executive

1070
01:03:32,850 --> 01:03:34,980
producers and Associate
Executive producers.

1071
01:03:44,940 --> 01:03:48,690
Finally, Eric seems to have
demoted him to arch Duke when in

1072
01:03:48,690 --> 01:03:53,910
fact, he's the Grand Duke. Yeah.
Steven Pels, mockers in Belgium

1073
01:03:54,180 --> 01:03:59,130
came in with 666, not six, six,
which is a whole sack of sixes.

1074
01:03:59,430 --> 01:04:02,460
Here Amos and Jedediah, he
writes a whole sack of sixes in

1075
01:04:02,460 --> 01:04:04,590
preparation for the sixth
anniversary of the show in order

1076
01:04:04,590 --> 01:04:07,320
to help you continue your
sterling work of hitting a

1077
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,740
slaves in the mouth. Also, to
help celebrate my own birthday

1078
01:04:10,740 --> 01:04:14,610
last Tuesday, the 15th please be
so kind as to bestow a round of

1079
01:04:14,610 --> 01:04:17,700
Suazo enough karma on all no
agenda nights and gamers out

1080
01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:22,740
there. I am truly privileged to
be among them on to the next six

1081
01:04:22,740 --> 01:04:23,940
years. No

1082
01:04:23,940 --> 01:04:26,670
and we'll hand off the cup.
Thank you so much Grand Duke

1083
01:04:26,820 --> 01:04:34,350
you've got karma I just love
that guy. Thank you. He's

1084
01:04:34,350 --> 01:04:38,100
already he's he's truly our our
patron of patrons. A man amongst

1085
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:39,360
men. He is

1086
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,620
the Hold on a second. He is the
Archduke.

1087
01:04:44,430 --> 01:04:46,560
Arch is not grand. Grand dude.
He

1088
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:50,310
is the grand dude. No arches
underground. Yeah, no, I was

1089
01:04:50,310 --> 01:04:53,340
just looking as I sent a note to
David Julian who's next on the

1090
01:04:53,340 --> 01:04:57,570
list. I'll read his note. This
is David Julian 333 33. Morgan

1091
01:04:57,570 --> 01:04:59,100
Hill, California came in again

1092
01:04:59,130 --> 01:05:00,720
again with the same ENCODE.

1093
01:05:01,530 --> 01:05:06,780
The note says blue fire hydrant.
No agenda.

1094
01:05:07,650 --> 01:05:09,420
No idea what it means, but

1095
01:05:09,450 --> 01:05:14,040
I asked him what it meant. Okay?
He refused to respond.

1096
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,940
He just didn't respond at all or
he said, I'm responding but I'm

1097
01:05:17,940 --> 01:05:18,870
not telling you.

1098
01:05:19,230 --> 01:05:25,770
No response whatsoever. Hmm.
Well, I'll do it again, just

1099
01:05:25,770 --> 01:05:28,800
because I liked the short notes.
Let's

1100
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,920
split. Let's split it up. You do
the three sections. So all

1101
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,940
y'all, I'll start blue fire
hydrant.

1102
01:05:36,630 --> 01:05:38,040
No agenda.

1103
01:05:39,450 --> 01:05:45,480
That's the that's the kind of
support I appreciate. Well, I'm

1104
01:05:45,510 --> 01:05:47,820
in Falcon and the snowman now
all of a sudden.

1105
01:05:49,590 --> 01:05:52,530
All right. Do you have the
beginning of this note from VP

1106
01:05:52,530 --> 01:05:57,420
live? vape. Team 333 for the
Massachusetts I got his word

1107
01:05:57,420 --> 01:05:59,700
starts off podcast in 2001.

1108
01:06:01,740 --> 01:06:06,210
Oh no, I have. This is from our
vaping producer, the VP live

1109
01:06:06,210 --> 01:06:11,640
vape team. Which you can find at
Vape team.com. I heard you guys

1110
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,090
talking about vaping on episode
556. I've been vaping for four

1111
01:06:15,090 --> 01:06:17,580
years since the first products
hit the market. I went from one

1112
01:06:17,580 --> 01:06:20,970
and a half packs per day to just
vaping in around a week. I

1113
01:06:20,970 --> 01:06:23,910
haven't had a cigarette since I
started vaping. We had seen

1114
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:26,460
1000s of people quit smoking
dramatically reduced the amount

1115
01:06:26,460 --> 01:06:29,820
of cigarettes they consume. I
love how the product has helped

1116
01:06:29,820 --> 01:06:33,210
me and my family so much that I
decided to start the podcast in

1117
01:06:33,210 --> 01:06:38,340
2011. The vaping podcast. We
don't take money from the

1118
01:06:38,340 --> 01:06:39,090
industry and it

1119
01:06:39,090 --> 01:06:44,100
was show is this. Hey, this
vaping is great. What about you

1120
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:45,330
Bill? What do you think?

1121
01:06:49,350 --> 01:06:51,240
We don't take money from the
industry but do take free

1122
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,360
products as giveaways we fund
the show out of our own pocket

1123
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,120
YouTube ads and with the
occasional donation the FDA is

1124
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,910
about to regulate these
products. Now. I will say I've

1125
01:06:59,910 --> 01:07:03,300
received several vaping emails
but this is the executive

1126
01:07:03,300 --> 01:07:05,430
producer. So we're going to read
this standalone we can talk

1127
01:07:05,430 --> 01:07:09,030
about the vaping later if we get
to it. So the FDA is about to

1128
01:07:09,030 --> 01:07:11,160
regulate these products that has
been in progress for several

1129
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,820
years since the FDA declared
them tobacco products in 2009.

1130
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,280
The regulation is supposed to
drop this month but the

1131
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,490
government shutdown might delay
it well. Good luck there. Ever

1132
01:07:20,490 --> 01:07:25,290
since the A NTZ Anti nicotine
tobacco zealots found them on

1133
01:07:25,290 --> 01:07:31,320
their radar. You find that
repressive I'm sorry. repressive

1134
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,530
representatives from stress is a
thing. Representatives from

1135
01:07:34,530 --> 01:07:36,690
groups like American Cancer
Society American Lung

1136
01:07:36,690 --> 01:07:39,960
Association in the Campaign for
Tobacco Free Kids are against

1137
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,870
these devices, even though they
clearly have many healthy

1138
01:07:42,870 --> 01:07:45,750
benefits and actually help
people reduce quit smoking. No

1139
01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:49,830
matter what Adam thinks he's
wrong. He's wrong. What does

1140
01:07:49,830 --> 01:07:53,100
Adam know? The truth is that
nicotine and tobacco are two

1141
01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:55,680
different things. Nicotine has
similar health risks as common

1142
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,800
stimulants such as caffeine
Yeah, true. The problem with

1143
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,350
nicotine currently is the
delivery method burning tobacco

1144
01:08:01,350 --> 01:08:03,540
releases 1000s of other
chemicals which are known to

1145
01:08:03,540 --> 01:08:06,300
have significant health risks.
Vaping produces no secondhand

1146
01:08:06,300 --> 01:08:10,920
smoke and no toxic byproducts.
Then he goes on to say that the

1147
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,020
pharmaceutical industry is
against vaping since their

1148
01:08:13,020 --> 01:08:15,540
current nicotine replacement
therapy, drugs, patches, gum,

1149
01:08:15,540 --> 01:08:19,740
Chantix, etc, are highly
ineffective. And they can't sell

1150
01:08:19,740 --> 01:08:22,620
electronic cigarettes as drugs
since they are tobacco products.

1151
01:08:22,620 --> 01:08:25,680
Also drugs like Chantix, which
have insane side effects. Yes,

1152
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:31,380
we know our big profit centers.
So he winds up by saying I've

1153
01:08:31,470 --> 01:08:33,660
been an advocate for vaping
around the country to industry

1154
01:08:33,660 --> 01:08:37,230
that is exploding, and helping
people continue using nicotine

1155
01:08:37,230 --> 01:08:40,020
in a much safer fashion. If you
have any questions, please let

1156
01:08:40,020 --> 01:08:40,320
me know.

1157
01:08:41,130 --> 01:08:45,270
I believe he's the one who sent
the email which accused Pfizer

1158
01:08:46,110 --> 01:08:48,480
of being behind if I'm not
mistaken.

1159
01:08:49,019 --> 01:08:52,679
We got the it's all in the show
notes by the way. Yes, that

1160
01:08:52,679 --> 01:09:00,449
Pfizer gave two almost $3
million to let's see, in total

1161
01:09:00,449 --> 01:09:03,599
that is to the American Academy
of Pediatrics, American Cancer

1162
01:09:03,599 --> 01:09:05,699
Society, American Heart
Association, American Lung

1163
01:09:05,699 --> 01:09:09,059
Association Campaign for Tobacco
Free Kids, American Medical

1164
01:09:09,059 --> 01:09:12,029
Association, American Legacy
Foundation Action on Smoking and

1165
01:09:12,029 --> 01:09:19,979
Health. Total of
$2,757,000.03 $757,300 and that

1166
01:09:19,979 --> 01:09:24,569
was Pfizer of course who don't
they make the Chantix? Yeah, I

1167
01:09:24,569 --> 01:09:28,529
think they do. And other
products and so that of course

1168
01:09:28,529 --> 01:09:32,549
that's how it works. And in
fact, I think that as much as I

1169
01:09:32,549 --> 01:09:35,459
hate to do it, I think John you
and I should get on the anti

1170
01:09:35,459 --> 01:09:38,999
vaping train. It seems like oh
yeah, the money. That's where

1171
01:09:38,999 --> 01:09:40,079
the money is.

1172
01:09:40,260 --> 01:09:42,510
Yeah, we should set fire Hey,
you know this vaping

1173
01:09:44,460 --> 01:09:53,250
smoking $200,000 Yeah, it vaping
blows. Don't Don't blow your

1174
01:09:53,250 --> 01:09:57,840
life. Don't vape Come on. Send
me some money.

1175
01:09:58,830 --> 01:10:00,630
Yeah, well, there To think it's

1176
01:10:00,630 --> 01:10:03,450
actually Glaxo think isn't Glaxo
who makes it

1177
01:10:04,770 --> 01:10:11,430
but knew what chance X Glaxo
Pfizer well here let's don't

1178
01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:14,490
let's don't continue the show
yeah, we find out reality

1179
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:28,590
Chantix is h a n tix space wiki
Wow. Source wow it's also called

1180
01:10:28,590 --> 01:10:32,670
Varun Varun neckline, which is
the I guess the

1181
01:10:33,150 --> 01:10:35,550
the medical name drug name

1182
01:10:36,330 --> 01:10:40,830
marketed by Pfizer usually in
the form of tartrate it says

1183
01:10:40,830 --> 01:10:43,320
prescription medication used to
treat smoking addiction.

1184
01:10:43,860 --> 01:10:49,290
Okay, good. I do understand that
there's different types of

1185
01:10:49,290 --> 01:10:53,370
vaping there are you know, there
are there's a type of vaping

1186
01:10:53,370 --> 01:10:56,880
where kids just have like some
cherry crappy liquid and there's

1187
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,660
like a wick in a pen and then
the battery burns it and there's

1188
01:11:00,660 --> 01:11:04,230
actual That is actual smoke.
It's not like a vaporizer.

1189
01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:08,070
They're burning like cherry
goop. I got a couple emails

1190
01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:13,290
about that. And Dr. Sharkey
checked in I love it. It was

1191
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:19,080
it's an interesting topic. It is
definitely on people's minds. I

1192
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,630
was like, and I'm just happy
that we're in the game. We got

1193
01:11:21,630 --> 01:11:27,330
some skin in the game because we
have received a $333.33 cent

1194
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,950
donation from the VP live vape
team. Yeah, so we're in the

1195
01:11:31,950 --> 01:11:32,400
game.

1196
01:11:34,860 --> 01:11:36,120
All right. Onward.

1197
01:11:36,389 --> 01:11:37,259
I love that though.

1198
01:11:37,380 --> 01:11:43,170
Thank you go to $66 Sir Andrew
harms Kansas City's zero world

1199
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:48,330
Indian Indian Happy Anniversary
guys love all you do give

1200
01:11:48,330 --> 01:11:51,540
yourself some karma will take it
no thank you very much.

1201
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:56,250
Appreciate that. You've got
carnivores I would say keto

1202
01:11:56,250 --> 01:11:58,290
Charlie Oscar whiskey India,
India.

1203
01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:02,400
I said Indian I think Yeah.

1204
01:12:03,210 --> 01:12:04,320
Didn't sound at all lay.

1205
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:12,480
Indian Edward sheets in
Brewerton New York to under $10

1206
01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:17,220
to show it he says his comment.
The show is great. Thank you.

1207
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:23,400
Stay loud and proud makin cheesy
my way to knighthood. Mac and

1208
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:29,520
cheese, mac and cheese finally.
Finally, from walk Walkley

1209
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:34,920
heights South Australia tuner in
$2. From Christina Caldwell, who

1210
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,550
writes in after almost running
off the road myself laughing at

1211
01:12:38,550 --> 01:12:42,750
Adams commentary to the White
House mum incident light

1212
01:12:42,750 --> 01:12:43,350
fingered this

1213
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:45,690
donate Why did I say something
weird?

1214
01:12:46,140 --> 01:12:48,240
I don't know. Apparently is
something funny to the

1215
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:52,020
Australian? I figured this
donation was long overdue I

1216
01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:54,840
finally hit my husband in the
mouth after years of trying this

1217
01:12:54,840 --> 01:13:00,300
isn't always stunning to the two
of us because of our previous

1218
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,770
experiences with the wooden
spouses yeah

1219
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,940
know that men have always been
trying to get their their

1220
01:13:08,970 --> 01:13:12,210
spouses their wives particularly
in generally Yeah, who

1221
01:13:12,210 --> 01:13:17,250
are tend to be generally not as
amenable to our message

1222
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:21,210
Yes, maybe maybe the
misogynistic nature of our

1223
01:13:21,210 --> 01:13:22,740
speech has something to do with
that

1224
01:13:22,740 --> 01:13:25,800
could be it could be that's
possible and then it would be

1225
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,370
reversed because it's the
southern hemisphere so that the

1226
01:13:29,370 --> 01:13:35,250
toilet the other worlds in
opposite direction Yeah. I

1227
01:13:35,250 --> 01:13:38,040
finally hit my husband in the
mouth after years of trying he

1228
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:41,940
recently delighted in pointing
out that I am one of those evil

1229
01:13:41,940 --> 01:13:46,830
people who listen in doublespeak
Oh no. So he does listen to the

1230
01:13:46,830 --> 01:13:50,460
show because the we must have
caught our rant on that. Despite

1231
01:13:50,460 --> 01:13:52,860
no that's what he was laughing
at your thing you sound like

1232
01:13:53,670 --> 01:13:58,170
exactly despite no agenda being
against me I knew all was not

1233
01:13:58,170 --> 01:14:03,180
lost. This realization came when
John told the fact that kale is

1234
01:14:03,180 --> 01:14:07,260
horrible. I throw this in my
husband's face as he has many a

1235
01:14:07,260 --> 01:14:11,040
time been unable to understand
why I refuse to eat kale salad

1236
01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:17,250
and any other horrid green
veggie he can find. And I please

1237
01:14:17,250 --> 01:14:20,280
request as much needed shot of
karma for my husband my

1238
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,030
god gotta get the guy some meat
and meat karma for him. Here you

1239
01:14:24,030 --> 01:14:28,650
go. Karma This is not good. Met
will have a man down soon.

1240
01:14:29,220 --> 01:14:33,090
The man down kale overdose man
down kale overdose.

1241
01:14:33,750 --> 01:14:37,080
I was at the Whole Foods
yesterday because Miss Mickey

1242
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:42,060
wanted this particular type of
peanut soup. Yeah, so what do

1243
01:14:42,060 --> 01:14:45,180
you want us I want the peanut
soup from Whole Foods. Okay, I

1244
01:14:45,180 --> 01:14:48,900
go get that problem Okay dear.
Yeah, it's nice. It's bad in a

1245
01:14:48,900 --> 01:14:53,820
bad she's in a poor way. And and
I was there meaningless. I

1246
01:14:53,820 --> 01:14:56,190
really only had to get the soup
you know, so I'm kind of walking

1247
01:14:56,190 --> 01:14:59,970
around looking at other things.
I just can't afford it. She did.

1248
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,350
Blaze cheese. Cheese blocks with
cranberry for $18 I shoot

1249
01:15:04,350 --> 01:15:10,680
kidding me anyway, and I'm
looking all the women there. So,

1250
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,160
first of all the dudes are
hipster. They got that douchebag

1251
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,550
hat on. You know the one I'm
talking about. Pork Pie and pork

1252
01:15:17,550 --> 01:15:19,020
pie. What is the pork pie?

1253
01:15:19,350 --> 01:15:21,780
There's a pork pie hat they like
to wear was that Yeah, yeah.

1254
01:15:21,780 --> 01:15:24,000
Also app from Burberry. Yeah,

1255
01:15:24,030 --> 01:15:27,000
douche bag. And you know, and
with the shirt tails out, and

1256
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,390
they're sitting the Converse
sneakers on. But that's a vest.

1257
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:34,440
Yeah, but they got money. So
they're at Whole Foods. And

1258
01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:35,760
then, but the women,

1259
01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:39,000
that's most of them, and some of
them do, but most of them don't

1260
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,770
do that. And the reason they
don't have money is because they

1261
01:15:40,770 --> 01:15:42,270
go to Whole Foods. Yeah.

1262
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,460
Well then there's this then the
women

1263
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,960
unit by the way, by the way, you
never see these these hipsters

1264
01:15:48,990 --> 01:15:50,400
at the farmers market.

1265
01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:54,360
Never. Never, never, never,
never ordered wheat. Well, we

1266
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,870
have a co op here which just
opened up that I'm really that's

1267
01:15:57,900 --> 01:16:02,760
the mean screw anything else.
Okay, go but now that the women,

1268
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:10,590
they all have a high level of
hotness and pick up ability. But

1269
01:16:11,460 --> 01:16:12,240
yeah,

1270
01:16:12,990 --> 01:16:14,850
while I was staying there, most
of them are pretty thin. Because

1271
01:16:14,850 --> 01:16:18,570
they're, you know, they don't
eat anything. They kale. They

1272
01:16:18,570 --> 01:16:21,420
kale. Anyone's throwing up most
of the time.

1273
01:16:22,050 --> 01:16:23,310
thrown up green kale.

1274
01:16:23,490 --> 01:16:28,200
It's like a version of bulimia.
Bulimia.

1275
01:16:29,250 --> 01:16:34,200
Bulimia. Are you gonna write it
down? Kelly Mia? Yeah, but they

1276
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,660
all look unhappy. That was gonna
be my punch line, because

1277
01:16:36,660 --> 01:16:40,470
they've got calenus Yeah, they
look unhappy. They just all of

1278
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:45,180
them just have a grouchy growl
on their face. Oh, yeah, they

1279
01:16:45,180 --> 01:16:49,620
do. It's just it's Wow, it's not
this is not a good place to be.

1280
01:16:50,460 --> 01:16:53,490
And they've changed Whole Foods
now with monitors and stuff and

1281
01:16:53,490 --> 01:16:58,770
the aisles are talking to you.
It's very creepy. I just creepy.

1282
01:16:59,070 --> 01:17:01,140
We're going we gotta wait to
build. That's our co op. We'd

1283
01:17:01,140 --> 01:17:01,920
like to occasionally

1284
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,770
you'll find the ones that have
been doing the veganism long

1285
01:17:04,770 --> 01:17:08,220
enough. And they have this
weird, taller to their skin.

1286
01:17:08,220 --> 01:17:11,460
They get these little crosshatch
they're like in their 20s. But

1287
01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:14,700
their skin looks like it's in
his 60s. Yeah. You have to look

1288
01:17:14,700 --> 01:17:19,350
carefully. For you. It looks
like little spider webs like

1289
01:17:19,380 --> 01:17:21,870
webbing. It's got this a name
for it. You got to look very

1290
01:17:21,870 --> 01:17:24,570
competent. You haven't got
enough oil in their system,

1291
01:17:24,690 --> 01:17:28,080
whatever. Whatever it is. They
don't have they are missing

1292
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:28,950
something for sure.

1293
01:17:29,220 --> 01:17:32,160
Yeah, they end up grumpy. And
they lose their sense of humor.

1294
01:17:32,190 --> 01:17:34,650
And once you lose your sense of
humor, I can assure you it's all

1295
01:17:34,650 --> 01:17:41,250
over. You're done. What was it
called? Again? Bulimia, bulimia.

1296
01:17:42,900 --> 01:17:45,180
There goes our free box from
healthy surprised, Doc.

1297
01:17:45,210 --> 01:17:49,290
Oh, no, he's a fanatic. Just
says you're gonna double up on

1298
01:17:49,290 --> 01:17:50,340
the kale snacks.

1299
01:17:51,930 --> 01:17:54,600
Anyway, thank you very much.
These are our executive

1300
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,790
producers and Associate
Executive producers, the way it

1301
01:17:56,790 --> 01:18:00,240
works on this show is very
simple. It's a value for value

1302
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:04,260
model. You support us and you
get the credits and dimensions

1303
01:18:04,260 --> 01:18:06,570
right at the will almost at the
top of the show and the opening

1304
01:18:06,570 --> 01:18:09,630
of the program. We have a thank
you segment later on. But these

1305
01:18:09,630 --> 01:18:13,170
are the people especially when
you see the the executive

1306
01:18:13,170 --> 01:18:17,400
producers today who have you
know, they're already patrons,

1307
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,920
and they keep coming back and
keep supporting us and we're

1308
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,680
into our sixth year almost or
this is our sixth year we'll be

1309
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,520
going into seventh. And when is
it again? Our our sixth, it

1310
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,020
doesn't fall on a show day does
it?

1311
01:18:28,260 --> 01:18:33,150
No, it's on the 28th I think or
the 26th 28th or 26th is love

1312
01:18:33,150 --> 01:18:36,090
the fact that we we keep arguing
over when it really was I

1313
01:18:36,090 --> 01:18:38,880
thought well, we can look it up
while you look it up. And I'll

1314
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,820
remind everyone how they can
support the show. The full

1315
01:18:41,820 --> 01:18:50,430
rock.org/na donate enough to be
some day and I want to thank Mr.

1316
01:18:50,430 --> 01:18:58,260
Oil who has set up something
called the ITM box. As a way to

1317
01:18:58,260 --> 01:19:04,440
fund the No 2626 Yeah, okay, I'm
gonna remember it now. 26.

1318
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:09,360
Neither of us have we've said
2827 23. But no one had 27 No,

1319
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:14,070
we say 26. Sometimes just 26.
Yeah, ITM box.com

1320
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:17,580
is where you can it's gonna it's
kind of like a Kickstarter for

1321
01:19:17,580 --> 01:19:20,850
media projects for the stream.
But the no agenda stream does

1322
01:19:20,850 --> 01:19:24,840
need help. And that is the first
campaign

1323
01:19:25,170 --> 01:19:26,100
listener say

1324
01:19:27,540 --> 01:19:32,250
inbox.com. So take a look at
that. And of course, as I

1325
01:19:32,250 --> 01:19:39,240
mentioned the no agenda karma
karma generator app. Ron Boyd. I

1326
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,240
think he has a donation coming
up later on our take from that

1327
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:46,440
fine public relations
initiative. And we always want

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01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:50,220
people to I don't know do
something like, go out propagate

1329
01:19:50,220 --> 01:19:56,220
our formula. Our formula is
this. We go out. We hit people

1330
01:19:56,220 --> 01:20:00,120
in the mouth It

1331
01:20:11,250 --> 01:20:13,710
reminds us to work that org
slash and a challenge of

1332
01:20:13,710 --> 01:20:17,040
org.com/na the no agenda
show.com Make sure to go there

1333
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,080
and there's a button you can
click on also no agenda

1334
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:19,920
nation.com

1335
01:20:20,460 --> 01:20:25,920
indeedy. I got a number of
things. Do you want to go down

1336
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:26,880
under for just a moment?

1337
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:28,770
Excuse me?

1338
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,310
Would you like to go down under
for a moment?

1339
01:20:32,429 --> 01:20:35,009
We have Australian news? We sure
do. In fact, let's

1340
01:20:35,010 --> 01:20:39,330
set it up. Australian news.
Tough new laws to tackle

1341
01:20:39,330 --> 01:20:40,650
motorcycle gangs will

1342
01:20:40,650 --> 01:20:43,590
go before Parliament's in the
Australian state of Queensland

1343
01:20:43,590 --> 01:20:46,830
today, the move is part of a
crackdown taking place in

1344
01:20:46,830 --> 01:20:49,860
several states against biker
gangs. In recent months, there

1345
01:20:49,860 --> 01:20:53,790
have been several cases of gang
related violence. So for more on

1346
01:20:53,790 --> 01:20:56,370
this issue, let's speak now to
my colleague, John Donaldson,

1347
01:20:56,370 --> 01:20:58,890
who joins us from Sydney. Good
to see you, John. Now, this

1348
01:20:58,890 --> 01:21:02,790
is a fine piece of slave
training legislation, which was

1349
01:21:02,790 --> 01:21:06,840
brought to my attention via this
BBC report, which I'll play the

1350
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:10,410
rest of in a moment. Also,
producer Alex Down Under in

1351
01:21:10,410 --> 01:21:14,220
Queensland, sent me the
legislation and he actually did

1352
01:21:14,580 --> 01:21:18,720
the hello when this happens. Now
we have our producers, sending

1353
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:22,500
in PDFs pre marked up for your
convenience that are that hit

1354
01:21:22,500 --> 01:21:26,790
the show notes. This. This will
be an ask John, when this is

1355
01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:30,720
done. What do you think this
legislation is really about?

1356
01:21:30,780 --> 01:21:35,940
Tell us first of all, how
powerful are these guys? Well,

1357
01:21:35,940 --> 01:21:36,930
they're pretty powerful. And

1358
01:21:36,930 --> 01:21:39,930
of course the police say they
have connections to drug dealing

1359
01:21:39,930 --> 01:21:43,830
organized crime. There's a lot
of inter gang violence not just

1360
01:21:43,830 --> 01:21:47,220
in Queensland, but in states
across Australia. It's estimated

1361
01:21:47,220 --> 01:21:52,470
they're around 3500 members of
the so called outlaw biker gang

1362
01:21:52,470 --> 01:21:56,490
such as the Hells Angels 35
different gangs across the

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01:21:56,490 --> 01:22:00,180
country. And Queensland is just
the latest state really to sort

1364
01:22:00,180 --> 01:22:03,540
of say it's hard enough these
laws that they're trying to get

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01:22:03,540 --> 01:22:06,870
through parliament. The State
Parliament this week, being

1366
01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:10,800
billed as the toughest Australia
has ever seen. Large rewards

1367
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,940
being offered for information
leading to gang activities. The

1368
01:22:14,940 --> 01:22:19,170
bikes of any gang member who is
convicted will be crushed and

1369
01:22:19,170 --> 01:22:22,680
turned into scrap metal
restrictions on gang members

1370
01:22:22,860 --> 01:22:26,250
wearing their colors or their
their leathers in public

1371
01:22:26,250 --> 01:22:28,560
letters, the letters there's
their letter

1372
01:22:28,590 --> 01:22:31,920
writing in large groups and even
one saying it no gang member

1373
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:36,870
will be allowed to own a tattoo
parlor. It was a bit of a

1374
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:37,740
background to this.

1375
01:22:38,009 --> 01:22:41,249
When I heard that when I heard
the leathers and tattoo parlor.

1376
01:22:41,249 --> 01:22:44,519
I'm like this is a bullshit
thing. Something is going on

1377
01:22:44,519 --> 01:22:46,799
with this that specific
incidents that have triggered

1378
01:22:46,799 --> 01:22:51,209
this. Yes. Is there is a
motorcycle gangs rampant

1379
01:22:51,209 --> 01:22:54,479
throughout Australia. Are they
just raping women and pillaging

1380
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,539
villages and chopping children's
heads off, sir,

1381
01:22:57,540 --> 01:23:00,360
just interest to this
legislation to to crack down on

1382
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:00,870
the gaps?

1383
01:23:02,910 --> 01:23:05,700
Well, this is a long running
problem, I think.

1384
01:23:06,750 --> 01:23:09,750
Oh, well, you surprise me with
that question. 1980s There have

1385
01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:14,460
been 100 since the 1980s people
killed in gang related murders

1386
01:23:14,460 --> 01:23:17,910
and more than 1000 shootings
we've had. Let me get this

1387
01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:22,980
right. In 30 years 100 people
have been killed by gangs. Oh,

1388
01:23:23,010 --> 01:23:25,200
wow. Gee, what is statistics

1389
01:23:25,230 --> 01:23:31,950
a spate of violence mostly into
gang violence rivals, drive by

1390
01:23:31,950 --> 01:23:34,920
shootings, that sorts of things
in recent months, not only in

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01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:38,550
Queensland, but also in the
state of Victoria. Last week, we

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01:23:38,550 --> 01:23:42,570
had police in Victoria carrying
out raids on more than 60

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01:23:42,570 --> 01:23:46,650
different properties linked to
the Hells Angels gang. And there

1394
01:23:46,650 --> 01:23:51,060
they seized a large amounts of
guns, weapons, some sort of

1395
01:23:51,060 --> 01:23:53,190
military style weapons and

1396
01:23:53,190 --> 01:23:55,320
Alright, so this just goes on
into bull crap. What do you

1397
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:58,800
think this is really about? What
do you suspect is in this anti

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01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,470
motorcycle gang legislation,
John?

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01:24:02,220 --> 01:24:04,350
Well, there's a number of
possibilities. And by the way, I

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01:24:04,350 --> 01:24:07,380
think it's rather peculiar that
they crushed the motorcycles

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01:24:07,380 --> 01:24:09,570
instead of putting them on the
market and selling and making

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01:24:09,570 --> 01:24:10,470
some money for the state.

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01:24:10,500 --> 01:24:15,300
This is no this is. This is part
of the meme to really help you

1404
01:24:15,300 --> 01:24:19,890
associate this legislation with
it with motorcycle gangs

1405
01:24:19,890 --> 01:24:21,000
specifically.

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01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,450
Big Pharma. No,

1407
01:24:24,900 --> 01:24:29,730
no. So this is the VR helmet
laws. It's better than that.

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01:24:30,060 --> 01:24:33,390
Okay, this is slave training.
101. I have I have the document

1409
01:24:33,390 --> 01:24:36,450
in front of me, I will just
highlight a few things, even

1410
01:24:36,450 --> 01:24:39,120
though that our producer Alex
has highlighted a lot. This

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01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:43,200
really is the vicious lawless
Association disestablishment

1412
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:48,630
bill for 2013. This is not about
motorcycle gangs, no, this is

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01:24:48,630 --> 01:24:56,130
about any group, or association
defined as follows. Any group of

1414
01:24:56,160 --> 01:25:02,040
three or any group of three or
More persons by whatever name

1415
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,430
called whether associated
formally or informally. And

1416
01:25:05,430 --> 01:25:07,650
whether the group is legal or
illegal.

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01:25:08,190 --> 01:25:10,110
At least it is knitting club.

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01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:16,650
Yes, that's an association that
falls under this Act. For this,

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01:25:16,710 --> 01:25:21,180
for this act, a person is a
participant in the affairs if

1420
01:25:21,210 --> 01:25:24,120
and I have a couple here, the
person has attended more than

1421
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:27,360
one meeting or gathering of
persons who participate in the

1422
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:31,290
affairs of the association in
any way or has taken part on any

1423
01:25:31,290 --> 01:25:34,350
one or more occasions in the
affairs of the association in

1424
01:25:34,350 --> 01:25:37,200
any other way. And you could do
the

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01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:42,960
quilting club is already on?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And

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01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:47,760
book clubs, are those women's
Shades of Grey? Yes, always at

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01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:48,600
least five of them.

1428
01:25:48,660 --> 01:25:52,980
Now, of course, you can have a
club unless one of the persons

1429
01:25:52,980 --> 01:25:56,880
in the club is a vicious,
lawless associate.

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01:25:57,719 --> 01:26:00,449
Yeah, I can see that in any
quilting club, there's always

1431
01:26:00,449 --> 01:26:02,669
one woman in there, that's just
a vicious person.

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01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:07,290
It can be if you commit a
declared offense, our

1433
01:26:07,290 --> 01:26:11,040
participant in the affairs of an
association that commits

1434
01:26:11,070 --> 01:26:17,430
offenses. And as a part of this
bill, if you are deemed a

1435
01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:21,810
vicious, lawless associate, in
addition to the fines for the

1436
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:27,750
crime committed, you will get an
additional 15 years of sentence

1437
01:26:28,410 --> 01:26:34,230
just because of how it's defined
in this bill. Now, let's go down

1438
01:26:34,230 --> 01:26:37,350
to the next bit here.

1439
01:26:39,210 --> 01:26:45,030
I have some of the offenses that
you might be interested in

1440
01:26:45,030 --> 01:26:46,380
sorry, that didn't Oh, here we
go.

1441
01:26:47,940 --> 01:26:50,220
Okay, of the Criminal Code,
there's a number of things you

1442
01:26:50,220 --> 01:26:54,630
can do to have to if you're in a
group of three, and if you've

1443
01:26:54,630 --> 01:26:59,430
had a meeting more than one
meeting, and you have committed

1444
01:26:59,460 --> 01:27:04,830
a fray Are you familiar with
this word afraid? Oh, no, you

1445
01:27:04,830 --> 01:27:11,610
have to explain it a f f ra y A
fray an instance of fighting in

1446
01:27:11,610 --> 01:27:17,160
a public place that disturbs the
peace the bar fight bar fight

1447
01:27:17,220 --> 01:27:22,470
yes, if you have attempted to
pervert justice, if you commit a

1448
01:27:22,470 --> 01:27:27,090
bomb hoax, if you operate a
vehicle in a dangerous manner

1449
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:31,620
manner, if you receive tainted
property, or if you possess

1450
01:27:31,620 --> 01:27:36,060
dangerous drugs are amongst the
25 I have listed here. And if

1451
01:27:36,060 --> 01:27:38,370
you're in a group of three or
more, and if you call yourself

1452
01:27:38,370 --> 01:27:43,020
something, you can get an
additional 15 years for any of

1453
01:27:43,020 --> 01:27:49,710
these offenses. This is a Slave
Act is what this is. Now, the

1454
01:27:49,710 --> 01:27:56,280
way I understand that it is only
for the province of Victoria.

1455
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,340
No it wasn't a Victoria was the
other one Victoria is who is

1456
01:27:59,340 --> 01:28:00,690
also a problem. Now this

1457
01:28:00,690 --> 01:28:04,080
isn't this Queensland isn't
Queensland, Queensland. Isn't

1458
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:04,950
that in Victoria?

1459
01:28:05,910 --> 01:28:08,190
No, Victoria, I think is a
separate province, Queensland.

1460
01:28:08,190 --> 01:28:09,210
Yes, Victoria. Yes,

1461
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:14,400
this is Queensland I'm sorry,
shows you what I know. This is

1462
01:28:14,430 --> 01:28:18,750
this is very disturbing. And the
way it's being sold to the

1463
01:28:18,750 --> 01:28:23,100
public is a you know, this is
this is almost like the EU

1464
01:28:23,220 --> 01:28:27,180
protocols on human rights.
Unless you know you have the

1465
01:28:27,180 --> 01:28:29,910
flu, and then we can arrest you
and throw you in jail or any

1466
01:28:29,910 --> 01:28:34,650
other communicable disease. You
know, you can't be shot dead by

1467
01:28:34,650 --> 01:28:36,870
a police officer unless you're
running away from the police

1468
01:28:36,870 --> 01:28:40,890
officer because clearly you
know, then you're dangerous. And

1469
01:28:40,890 --> 01:28:44,010
so now if you were afraid and
you're in a group of three,

1470
01:28:44,730 --> 01:28:47,910
which could easily be don't wear
you know, agenda T shirts

1471
01:28:47,910 --> 01:28:52,950
together. If there's three of
you, if someone has to wear the

1472
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:57,720
twit t shirt to come can wear
the no agenda shirt and someone

1473
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:05,070
has to wear something different.
So for as much as we are always

1474
01:29:05,070 --> 01:29:08,010
looking at Australia and saying
wow, those guys got it together.

1475
01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:12,120
This sucks. Nice slave training
Australia.

1476
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:19,680
Yeah, it's about standing and
glad that they're doing

1477
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:20,250
something.

1478
01:29:20,370 --> 01:29:23,790
Well I'm glad that we have
producers who are wide awake

1479
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:30,210
down there and you can find this
marked up legislation in the

1480
01:29:30,210 --> 01:29:34,380
show notes 557 dot n a show
notes.com.

1481
01:29:37,290 --> 01:29:41,640
What? Nothing, I was just I just
done I'm in stunned silence.

1482
01:29:42,330 --> 01:29:44,580
Every single day. I'm like AC
there. Did he drop out?

1483
01:29:45,390 --> 01:29:46,380
Paranoid now.

1484
01:29:46,410 --> 01:29:51,960
Hey to what I found interesting
is the news of Glenn Greenwald.

1485
01:29:52,530 --> 01:30:00,240
And Jeremy Scahill. Grant
Grunwald leaving the guy Already

1486
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:05,550
in to start up his own
organization backed by this the

1487
01:30:05,580 --> 01:30:10,800
one of the guys from was it eBay
or PayPal eBay wasn't? What's

1488
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:11,220
his name?

1489
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,960
I don't know anything about this
KIDDING ME Pierre on

1490
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,140
on the dark. Oh my god, yeah,
you don't get

1491
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,290
started but the guy is a total
flake he has started a number of

1492
01:30:22,290 --> 01:30:25,650
publications. And then out of
the blue, as far as I can tell,

1493
01:30:25,860 --> 01:30:29,040
he gets bored and then just
pulls the funding. Well, so

1494
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,860
these guys are going to be left
hanging. Oh, no, this is gonna

1495
01:30:31,860 --> 01:30:33,840
be swinging in the wind. You
hadn't heard about

1496
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,110
this. Now? Oh, my God. Oh, this
is this is

1497
01:30:37,260 --> 01:30:40,770
i Okay. Major point. I didn't
hear about it. Okay, so the

1498
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:45,180
so here's the deal. Glenn
Greenwald, has announced his

1499
01:30:45,180 --> 01:30:48,240
departure from the guardian.
He's going to start up a new

1500
01:30:48,780 --> 01:30:51,240
online only news venture.

1501
01:30:51,270 --> 01:30:55,650
So wait a minute, stop. So let
me get this straight. He's with

1502
01:30:55,650 --> 01:30:59,520
salon, a huge money losing
operation, which is exactly what

1503
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,270
you're describing, goes to the
Guardian makes a reputation for

1504
01:31:03,270 --> 01:31:08,820
himself. He's probably got carte
blanche. And he says that screw

1505
01:31:08,820 --> 01:31:12,480
this, I'm gonna go back to this
to a similar situation that just

1506
01:31:12,480 --> 01:31:16,980
loses money. And I'm going to
right now I'm going to be losing

1507
01:31:16,980 --> 01:31:19,800
the money. But I'll be losing on
the on behalf of Peter.

1508
01:31:20,370 --> 01:31:28,020
It's Pierre. Pierre Peter. Well,
yeah, so what's there's a couple

1509
01:31:28,020 --> 01:31:31,710
of things interesting about it.
One is this. Pierre actually

1510
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:36,900
wrote about this, and he did a
couple interviews. And he says,

1511
01:31:36,900 --> 01:31:37,650
Well, you know, give

1512
01:31:37,650 --> 01:31:40,020
me $250 million.

1513
01:31:40,650 --> 01:31:44,490
This is not okay. Let me give
you what he actually said. He

1514
01:31:44,490 --> 01:31:50,220
said that he was offered the
Washington Post, as well as the

1515
01:31:50,250 --> 01:31:55,380
eBay boy, the Amazon boy, what's
his name Bezos. And he also I

1516
01:31:55,380 --> 01:31:58,050
don't know if he looked first or
whatever. But so apparently, he

1517
01:31:58,050 --> 01:32:00,780
was like, Well, this is great.
They want to win $50 million.

1518
01:32:01,620 --> 01:32:07,260
But now I think I'm gonna go do
something else. And he has had a

1519
01:32:07,260 --> 01:32:11,220
Civil Beat the Honolulu Civil
Beat running for a couple of

1520
01:32:11,220 --> 01:32:12,450
years, which is a

1521
01:32:13,110 --> 01:32:15,390
Oh, that's a runaway breakout
hit.

1522
01:32:15,690 --> 01:32:19,170
That is a and he's actively
involved with that. So he is

1523
01:32:19,170 --> 01:32:24,120
kind of, I guess, enjoying being
a news, a news guy. So even

1524
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,880
though he has not said he's
dedicated the presses, even

1525
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,120
though he has not said he is
dedicating $250 million. He

1526
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:35,790
says, Well, I didn't spend 250
million on the post so that you

1527
01:32:35,790 --> 01:32:38,490
could see that as my possible
inlay. He has not committed

1528
01:32:38,490 --> 01:32:38,970
that.

1529
01:32:39,150 --> 01:32:41,850
Well, we're at The Guardian. I'm
reading from The Guardian. If

1530
01:32:41,850 --> 01:32:45,390
you think there's only sour
grapes in The Guardian, in an

1531
01:32:45,390 --> 01:32:49,740
interview me, blah, blah, blah.
Omidyar said he was committing

1532
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:55,500
an initial 50 mil. Okay, that's
yet unnamed venture.

1533
01:32:55,530 --> 01:32:59,190
That's not what he's he's quoted
as saying in a quoted interview,

1534
01:32:59,190 --> 01:33:05,250
but that's okay. For me, what I
found interesting was exactly

1535
01:33:05,250 --> 01:33:09,780
what you highlight is, salon is
essentially a publication that

1536
01:33:09,780 --> 01:33:14,490
cost $3 million a year run by
sugar daddy, sugar daddy, who is

1537
01:33:14,490 --> 01:33:18,690
the chairman of Adobe, whose
daughter happens to be the

1538
01:33:18,690 --> 01:33:22,980
president of salon or CEO may be
I can't remember which one it

1539
01:33:22,980 --> 01:33:25,920
is. But you know, so, you know,
they they, essentially they

1540
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,800
bring in a million dollars in
advertising, it costs him 4

1541
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:34,140
million to run the outfit. So he
puts in three. And Greenwald

1542
01:33:34,140 --> 01:33:36,870
left that. And you're right. He
built up a reputation, a

1543
01:33:36,870 --> 01:33:41,460
reputation, which I'll I'll add
is built with in a collaborative

1544
01:33:41,460 --> 01:33:47,340
effort, I think, with editors,
and you know, some staff. And

1545
01:33:47,370 --> 01:33:52,260
now he has all this stuff. I
guess he has a trove. And he's

1546
01:33:52,260 --> 01:33:56,640
going to build I don't know if
he's going to build it or the

1547
01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:01,710
way Pierre says it he says that
Poydras and Scahill and I guess

1548
01:34:01,710 --> 01:34:03,210
a whole bunch of other people
from the

1549
01:34:03,330 --> 01:34:08,280
one just hired the staff from
Democracy Now. Right. Exactly.

1550
01:34:08,490 --> 01:34:11,700
It sounds to me as though what
he's doing is he's rare America

1551
01:34:11,730 --> 01:34:14,640
is what I'm thinking. Well, I
don't think it nothing could be

1552
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:19,320
that bad. Democracy Now. Lisa's
hung in there democracy now and

1553
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:23,130
the stuff that you get on the on
Pacifica, radio, your KPFA. And

1554
01:34:23,130 --> 01:34:26,160
these guys, were, you know, they
have to devote at least an hour

1555
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:31,110
a day to Navajo poetry. So, hey,

1556
01:34:31,110 --> 01:34:33,720
I resent that. Yeah.

1557
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,930
The funny thing is about the
Navajo poetry they actually read

1558
01:34:36,930 --> 01:34:39,480
it in Navajo. I mean, it's just
like cheese. Can you find

1559
01:34:39,480 --> 01:34:43,110
something more entertaining than
this? Even the Navajo is don't

1560
01:34:43,110 --> 01:34:50,550
like it. So right. So he's going
to 250 By the way as a lot

1561
01:34:50,550 --> 01:34:54,870
because you don't need a lot of
money. Yeah, internet era. Your

1562
01:34:54,900 --> 01:35:00,000
need for this kind of overhead
is 250 is buying the wall.

1563
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,650
Washington Post where you have a
plant this that online. I mean,

1564
01:35:04,650 --> 01:35:07,800
if you can't do a publication
with Glenn Greenwald and all

1565
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:11,040
these people for five mil, you
know, kind of the budget that

1566
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,530
salon has, yeah, I don't know
what you're thinking.

1567
01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:17,580
I'm thinking a lot of people are
gonna be like, hey, Glenn,

1568
01:35:17,610 --> 01:35:22,710
you've always thought you were
great. It me a job get me a job.

1569
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,130
I just don't understand, you
know, for a guy who is

1570
01:35:26,130 --> 01:35:29,700
everything is important about at
the end of the day, turns out

1571
01:35:29,700 --> 01:35:33,480
for him, it's not I think the
Guardian was certainly letting

1572
01:35:33,510 --> 01:35:36,360
giving him free rein on
publishing. I don't think he was

1573
01:35:36,780 --> 01:35:39,840
curtailed in any way. I think
he's able to do his side

1574
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:43,650
projects. So it is ultimately
for just like everyone else,

1575
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,020
it's for the money. I guess I
can't,

1576
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,110
if you really wanted to do it,
right, he would have done a book

1577
01:35:49,740 --> 01:35:51,750
a while he made that may be a
part of the deal.

1578
01:35:52,110 --> 01:35:55,380
Well, maybe maybe they helped
them do that. And it's in the

1579
01:35:55,380 --> 01:35:56,580
book should be out by now, by
the

1580
01:35:56,580 --> 01:36:02,580
way. Yeah. And it's also very
possible, the way Pierre says it

1581
01:36:02,580 --> 01:36:07,770
himself as part of my analysis
from his own blog, as part of my

1582
01:36:07,770 --> 01:36:13,500
learning process. He's rich
guys. And I think he is actually

1583
01:36:13,500 --> 01:36:18,930
the guy who wrote the first eBay
code. So I think, you know, this

1584
01:36:18,930 --> 01:36:22,260
is kind of a success story, you
know, of just kind of a nerdy

1585
01:36:22,260 --> 01:36:26,910
guy wrote a wrote some code for
an auction site. And really, now

1586
01:36:26,910 --> 01:36:30,720
he's available. As part of my
learning process. This is listen

1587
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,600
to F. Williams, if you get a
chance. You know, these guys who

1588
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:37,410
like wrote some code and we're
head yeah. Now they're all like,

1589
01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:40,980
oh, well, I'm, you know, as part
of my learning process. I

1590
01:36:40,980 --> 01:36:43,890
recently reached out to Glenn
Greenwald to find out what

1591
01:36:43,890 --> 01:36:48,570
journalists like him need to do
their jobs. Well, as it turns

1592
01:36:48,570 --> 01:36:51,870
out, he and his colleagues,
Laura Poitras, and Jeremy

1593
01:36:51,870 --> 01:36:56,400
Scahill are already on a path to
create an online space to

1594
01:36:56,400 --> 01:37:01,170
support independent journalists.
We had a lot of overlap in terms

1595
01:37:01,170 --> 01:37:07,740
of our ideas, and decided to
join forces. Oh, my second you

1596
01:37:07,740 --> 01:37:12,390
okay. I do that. Can

1597
01:37:12,390 --> 01:37:16,230
you wait, okay, she did she been
eating kale or anything like

1598
01:37:16,230 --> 01:37:16,530
that?

1599
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:18,960
Hold on one second. Let me just
check to make sure she's okay.

1600
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:22,350
That sounded like a distress
call. Hold on one sec. No, she's

1601
01:37:22,350 --> 01:37:22,860
okay.

1602
01:37:23,250 --> 01:37:24,090
What happened to her,

1603
01:37:24,330 --> 01:37:26,760
I think was just a really loud
coffin and hit the noise gate.

1604
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:31,410
And it sounded like a dog being
run over. Oh, I'm just I'm just

1605
01:37:31,410 --> 01:37:33,870
ready to run in there and see
like the bed and flames were

1606
01:37:33,870 --> 01:37:35,280
their legs on fire.

1607
01:37:36,990 --> 01:37:39,180
Oh, you mean because the
spontaneous human combustion?

1608
01:37:39,180 --> 01:37:42,960
Yes. That's it starts in that
No, no, no, no. You have to

1609
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,930
understand how this works. I
thought it always starts the

1610
01:37:45,930 --> 01:37:50,160
midriff along the the belly,
kind of across the center of

1611
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:54,750
your body spread up and down
simultaneously. And I thought it

1612
01:37:54,750 --> 01:37:57,960
always started in the legs. No,
no, no, no, the legs of the last

1613
01:37:57,960 --> 01:37:58,620
thing they light up.

1614
01:37:58,980 --> 01:38:00,720
What do I know? Now?

1615
01:38:01,770 --> 01:38:04,830
If you read about it, this is an
actual phenomenon.

1616
01:38:06,750 --> 01:38:11,280
This is Gee, I really hope
someone has a hold on a second

1617
01:38:11,310 --> 01:38:15,840
one second here, Joe. Yeah,
today's recording is going to be

1618
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:19,530
very interesting. It'll be fine.
Now I'm gonna have to patch

1619
01:38:19,530 --> 01:38:21,390
together a million dinars. Oh,
you're gonna actually

1620
01:38:21,390 --> 01:38:23,340
have to do some post Oh, gee.

1621
01:38:25,050 --> 01:38:30,120
Somehow I I still had it set up
to start new file. When goes

1622
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,610
below a certain level

1623
01:38:32,610 --> 01:38:35,610
of audio. You screwed the pooch
is what you're telling me.

1624
01:38:35,610 --> 01:38:38,820
I have like 20 files. Okay, I
can patch them all together to

1625
01:38:38,820 --> 01:38:41,850
work out. Don't worry about it.
I'll do some work. Hey, you

1626
01:38:41,850 --> 01:38:44,550
know, it's not that we have to
spend $50 million to build our

1627
01:38:44,550 --> 01:38:49,380
operation with I just find this
extremely interesting more we

1628
01:38:49,380 --> 01:38:52,920
get these free people who now
are going to let themselves be

1629
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:57,780
tied down to a billionaire who
may have I don't know some kind

1630
01:38:57,780 --> 01:39:01,530
of agenda. Who knows? Now,
although the guy seems pretty

1631
01:39:01,530 --> 01:39:02,280
cool.

1632
01:39:04,500 --> 01:39:10,110
He's still like, what he is.
Well, he was Mr. Moneybags, they

1633
01:39:10,110 --> 01:39:12,990
were in he does have an agenda.
They all do.

1634
01:39:13,140 --> 01:39:16,260
Well, this is the same guy who I
mean, he's in the club with

1635
01:39:16,290 --> 01:39:23,040
Jeffrey scoll. You know, of
course financed Inconvenient

1636
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:26,790
Truth. But also, you know, did
amazing

1637
01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:29,460
client. He's like, Yeah, you
think there's gonna be any anti

1638
01:39:29,460 --> 01:39:33,570
climate? You know? Well,
reporting it all.

1639
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:35,640
Well, the question is, what is
it going to be? I mean, Glenn

1640
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,760
Greenwald, not just not known
for his sports reporting, you

1641
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:42,810
know, so is it just going to be
all about whistleblowers? Is it

1642
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:44,250
all going to be one

1643
01:39:44,730 --> 01:39:50,460
whistleblowers daily from Palo
Alto, California. I'm your host.

1644
01:39:52,620 --> 01:40:00,720
Exactly. So yeah, this seems.
Now it seems dodgy. I'd say,

1645
01:40:02,130 --> 01:40:07,950
dodgy, I'd say, dodgy, dodgy
very dodgy and surprise you to

1646
01:40:07,950 --> 01:40:10,230
know about that I was kind of
excited to talk to you about it

1647
01:40:10,230 --> 01:40:10,980
and I guess you

1648
01:40:10,980 --> 01:40:13,080
could have sent me a heads up
like I sent you

1649
01:40:15,809 --> 01:40:18,719
John this is like this is huge
news I

1650
01:40:19,230 --> 01:40:23,640
was huge news is not a huge news
to me I'm flabbergasted me like

1651
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:27,870
I care you know, Jesus started
another douchebag publication

1652
01:40:27,870 --> 01:40:30,510
with a lot way too much money.
This is where every time they've

1653
01:40:30,510 --> 01:40:33,060
done this by the way the only
guys who operate well it was

1654
01:40:33,060 --> 01:40:36,480
operate on a shoestring. If you
have all this money, I guarantee

1655
01:40:36,480 --> 01:40:39,750
the single B A dog they're gonna
hire a bunch of guys or aren't

1656
01:40:39,750 --> 01:40:42,240
going to do any work because
they got the money coming in and

1657
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:44,160
they don't have to worry about
making money so they're not

1658
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,940
going to be lean and hungry is
going to be a piece of crap. I

1659
01:40:47,940 --> 01:40:53,250
mean, I can guarantee it.
Portfolio did it when Conde Nast

1660
01:40:53,250 --> 01:40:55,980
rolled it out, you can see right
away that it wasn't going to

1661
01:40:55,980 --> 01:40:59,160
succeed because it just had too
much money they were just coming

1662
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,230
out of their ears are overpaying
everybody.

1663
01:41:02,130 --> 01:41:07,020
I'm thinking that the whole
concept of a network of anything

1664
01:41:07,440 --> 01:41:11,700
is just inappropriate in today's
age. I don't see the necessity

1665
01:41:11,700 --> 01:41:16,320
for Glenn Greenwald to need to
be part of a network I mean, if

1666
01:41:16,380 --> 01:41:19,620
if Greenwald the way he would
the stuff he's doing if he just

1667
01:41:19,620 --> 01:41:24,600
said paid support me and my
sources, the guy would make a

1668
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:25,410
million bucks.

1669
01:41:25,500 --> 01:41:27,000
Well, that's what Solomon did.

1670
01:41:28,650 --> 01:41:29,850
Solomon

1671
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,730
Solomon, what's his first name?
The guy that political common,

1672
01:41:32,790 --> 01:41:36,300
Gilbert. Oh, yeah. This is first
name.

1673
01:41:36,809 --> 01:41:41,009
Gilbert O'Sullivan. Ed Sullivan.

1674
01:41:42,060 --> 01:41:43,440
Ed Sullivan.

1675
01:41:43,440 --> 01:41:46,710
That's Andrew Sullivan. Think is
Andrew isn't it? Andrew

1676
01:41:46,710 --> 01:41:48,390
Sullivan. Andrew Sullivan.

1677
01:41:48,420 --> 01:41:48,870
All right. Well,

1678
01:41:48,870 --> 01:41:49,680
what did he do?

1679
01:41:50,550 --> 01:41:53,010
Andrew Sullivan decided he's
going to go on his own he's

1680
01:41:53,010 --> 01:42:00,360
going to do a pay poor I pay per
view not a pay per view. But I

1681
01:42:01,290 --> 01:42:04,080
Yeah, firewall publication.

1682
01:42:04,140 --> 01:42:06,480
Oh, the dish is that his thing?
Is that still?

1683
01:42:06,570 --> 01:42:09,150
I don't know if the dish is what
it turned out to be. By the way

1684
01:42:09,150 --> 01:42:12,120
your volume goes up and down and
up and down. It's driving me

1685
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:16,680
nuts. Okay. I have to turn you
off. Hang on a second. Now your

1686
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:17,520
sound terrible.

1687
01:42:17,550 --> 01:42:22,770
Alright, am I too loud? Yeah,
you're 1212 How's this 121212

1688
01:42:22,770 --> 01:42:25,530
better well, at least I can hear
you because how about this 1212

1689
01:42:25,530 --> 01:42:28,620
Is this better one? Okay, it was
it was set to automatic on this

1690
01:42:28,620 --> 01:42:32,250
computer. I'm sorry. Huh? Isn't
that what became the Daily

1691
01:42:32,250 --> 01:42:33,450
Beast? Or is that where he

1692
01:42:34,620 --> 01:42:37,170
went off? Or he quit all those
things to screw it I'm just

1693
01:42:37,170 --> 01:42:42,090
gonna write by myself and I want
you to pay and he got $650,000

1694
01:42:42,090 --> 01:42:47,760
right off the top. Wow. A lot
more than we get. Yeah. Oh,

1695
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:50,910
that's right that 650 grand plus
I don't know if he can sustain

1696
01:42:50,910 --> 01:42:53,940
it. These are all subscriptions
and they're all 25 bucks

1697
01:42:53,940 --> 01:42:55,860
subscriptions or something like
that. But he had a pretty big

1698
01:42:55,890 --> 01:42:59,520
audience and he was well
marketed himself very well yeah.

1699
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,520
And I don't see why Greg
Greenwald could do the same

1700
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:06,420
thing and he you know make a
million dollars a year or at

1701
01:43:06,420 --> 01:43:09,900
least for a while got sick of
reading the same thing over and

1702
01:43:09,900 --> 01:43:10,140
over

1703
01:43:10,140 --> 01:43:12,630
he would have enough well he
would have an operating budget

1704
01:43:12,630 --> 01:43:15,000
which is really what you want
you know you want a budget to be

1705
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:18,570
able to operate arm to you know
to travel I guess he has to

1706
01:43:18,570 --> 01:43:21,300
travel in his he has his sources
and stuff like that. But in

1707
01:43:21,300 --> 01:43:25,710
general what are the costs
really when you have a brand and

1708
01:43:25,710 --> 01:43:31,260
which I think he carefully built
I'd say some of it off salon but

1709
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:34,560
at The Guardian is really where
he came into the the mainstream

1710
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:38,130
view and he's just been you
know, you go on every single new

1711
01:43:38,130 --> 01:43:41,850
show and your you're the
authority on something. You Why

1712
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:46,860
Why ruin it with an Uber Lord,
why ruin it with colleagues for

1713
01:43:46,860 --> 01:43:50,010
Christ's sake why why would you
even want to have Poydras and

1714
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:52,590
and Scahill sucking off your
dime.

1715
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:57,270
Yes, gay Hills definitely.
incredibly competitive. He does

1716
01:43:57,270 --> 01:44:04,020
movies. He's much better as a
Harem Scarem type of person in

1717
01:44:04,020 --> 01:44:07,260
interview shows. He gets on
there and scares the crap out of

1718
01:44:07,260 --> 01:44:10,800
you. Greenwald bores you with
his monotone died too bad but

1719
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:15,660
bad but he keeps getting
interrupts you he's not

1720
01:44:15,660 --> 01:44:19,920
interesting compared to Scahill
Scahill is very entertaining.

1721
01:44:19,950 --> 01:44:22,470
When you hear him you go, Oh my
God, all these things are

1722
01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:25,080
happening. What we're gonna do,
we're all gonna die, right?

1723
01:44:25,290 --> 01:44:28,800
Whereas greenwall is just like
monotone monotone monotone.

1724
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:31,920
Meanwhile, the mainstream media
certainly in the United

1725
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:35,850
Kingdom's of Gitmo nation east
to have their own strange way of

1726
01:44:35,850 --> 01:44:39,750
spicing up their news coverage.
This is from the News Hour,

1727
01:44:39,750 --> 01:44:42,480
which I would say is a
reasonably prestigious program.

1728
01:44:45,330 --> 01:44:49,680
This is a download from the BBC.
To find out more and our Terms

1729
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:56,100
of Use, go to BBC World
service.com/podcast This is Tim

1730
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:56,550
Franks

1731
01:44:56,550 --> 01:45:00,000
with news hour recorded on the
14th of October at 20 as GMT.

1732
01:45:00,270 --> 01:45:03,780
Coming up, we begin a week of
special programs with prominent

1733
01:45:03,780 --> 01:45:05,670
female guest editors. This is

1734
01:45:05,670 --> 01:45:08,160
Chelsea Clinton, Vice Chair of
the Clinton Foundation in New

1735
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:11,280
York. I'm in the news, our
editor's chair today as part of

1736
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:14,850
the BBC 100 Women's season,
we'll be looking at attitudes

1737
01:45:14,850 --> 01:45:16,350
towards the ivory trade in
China.

1738
01:45:17,430 --> 01:45:21,900
So Chelsea Clinton, you kidding
me? She's now the special guest

1739
01:45:21,900 --> 01:45:30,420
editor of the news hour. Yeah, I
know. It's Wow. Yeah, I know.

1740
01:45:30,630 --> 01:45:31,290
It's bad,

1741
01:45:31,290 --> 01:45:32,250
big man.

1742
01:45:33,570 --> 01:45:35,460
And not in our favor, buddy.

1743
01:45:35,639 --> 01:45:40,829
No. Ah, we maybe should do some
of that. You know that I'm gonna

1744
01:45:40,829 --> 01:45:43,679
start a new segment of the show
besides the other segment. Yeah.

1745
01:45:43,709 --> 01:45:48,029
Which you're looking for this
embedded stuff. So I'm watching.

1746
01:45:49,109 --> 01:45:53,789
I'm watching the Ki o n. And so
they they have the out of the

1747
01:45:53,789 --> 01:45:56,159
blue in the middle of the new
show. They bring out those Wells

1748
01:45:56,159 --> 01:46:00,029
Fargo what is K Ionis? That
station is the channel is the

1749
01:46:00,029 --> 01:46:03,929
NBC affiliate in Salinas,
California. Okay, gotcha, as in

1750
01:46:03,929 --> 01:46:07,529
the valleys. And so and so it's
kind of locals kind of local

1751
01:46:07,529 --> 01:46:11,189
hick. It's a hick version of the
NBC stuff compared to KR, we're

1752
01:46:11,189 --> 01:46:11,849
not careful and

1753
01:46:12,660 --> 01:46:15,090
K Hicks as an redneck or

1754
01:46:15,420 --> 01:46:18,900
just kind of silliness, you
know, can be alright, we get no

1755
01:46:18,900 --> 01:46:19,500
donor. So

1756
01:46:19,500 --> 01:46:23,700
Salinas is where Bill and Ted
are from. Excellent Adventure.

1757
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:25,050
Yeah, they were from Salina

1758
01:46:25,290 --> 01:46:28,500
at figures. So they bring this
guy on, and then essentially

1759
01:46:28,500 --> 01:46:32,400
just a plug for Wells Fargo,
they have, it's a two people in

1760
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:36,720
his own phone bank, you could
call it as crazy. And so but

1761
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:39,420
just play this and that, and
there's a little irksome aspect

1762
01:46:39,420 --> 01:46:39,900
to this

1763
01:46:39,930 --> 01:46:43,320
center, and our friends from
Wells Fargo are here, and

1764
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:47,520
they're helping you at home,
determine what is a good time

1765
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:51,300
for your children to start
saving. And I'm here with Luis

1766
01:46:51,300 --> 01:46:53,970
Dominguez, so we wanted to ask
you that question. You know, a

1767
01:46:53,970 --> 01:46:56,190
lot of a lot of you are out
there thinking you could call us

1768
01:46:56,190 --> 01:46:59,190
here, the phones aren't ringing.
So if you want free information,

1769
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:02,070
call the number on the bottom of
your screen. But Luis, tell us

1770
01:47:02,250 --> 01:47:06,270
when is a good time for children
to start saving? What should you

1771
01:47:06,270 --> 01:47:06,960
tell parents

1772
01:47:07,290 --> 01:47:09,930
they want? Ideally, I would say
as soon as the child is born is

1773
01:47:09,930 --> 01:47:12,510
the best time because just like
with anything, the longer that

1774
01:47:12,510 --> 01:47:16,290
you can save, the better it is.
However, I would say the best

1775
01:47:16,290 --> 01:47:18,990
time is right now. There's no
reason to wait. And it doesn't

1776
01:47:18,990 --> 01:47:21,870
matter how old the kids are,
right now, it'd be the best time

1777
01:47:21,900 --> 01:47:24,450
because if you haven't already
started saving, then the longer

1778
01:47:24,450 --> 01:47:26,970
you wait, the later it becomes.
So as soon as you can start,

1779
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:27,840
that's the best time.

1780
01:47:28,170 --> 01:47:32,280
Okay, so Okay, when they're
born, what do they understand

1781
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:34,620
when they're born? I mean, what
would you tell parents? What do

1782
01:47:34,620 --> 01:47:37,710
you do when you have a child eat
them

1783
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:38,760
out? That's a great question.

1784
01:47:39,660 --> 01:47:40,770
Great question.

1785
01:47:48,390 --> 01:47:49,770
Short is not a great question.

1786
01:47:50,220 --> 01:47:51,990
It's an idiotic question.

1787
01:47:52,470 --> 01:47:54,480
What do you do as soon as
they're born?

1788
01:47:55,170 --> 01:47:58,320
The kid he goes on, he says the
kids can't really they don't

1789
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:01,230
understand saving. So what
should you do it and the guy

1790
01:48:01,230 --> 01:48:04,500
says, this is a great question
is not a great question. I don't

1791
01:48:04,500 --> 01:48:06,570
get these people with. That's a
great question.

1792
01:48:09,210 --> 01:48:11,880
Board. I mean, what would you
tell parents? What do you do

1793
01:48:11,910 --> 01:48:14,010
when you have a child? Yeah,
that's

1794
01:48:14,010 --> 01:48:15,090
a great question. And

1795
01:48:17,250 --> 01:48:19,410
how's that? A great question.
I'm asking you.

1796
01:48:19,650 --> 01:48:22,470
It's not a great question. It's
just not it's the only reason

1797
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:26,250
it's a great question is because
it put the the guy from the bank

1798
01:48:26,250 --> 01:48:30,060
in the in the in frame for
another three seconds for the

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01:48:30,060 --> 01:48:34,740
commercial. isn't, you know,
this, I'm seeing a lot of this,

1800
01:48:34,740 --> 01:48:39,360
I'm seeing a lot of the bank
making it hard for you to have

1801
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:45,060
your money. Chase is doing
something where if you deposit

1802
01:48:45,060 --> 01:48:50,010
more than $50,000 in cash in a
week, if you have a cash cash

1803
01:48:50,010 --> 01:48:55,380
business, like a restaurant,
then you that's not allowed

1804
01:48:55,380 --> 01:49:00,420
unless you are upgraded to a new
type of business account, which

1805
01:49:00,420 --> 01:49:03,870
of course, you know, then gives
you the right to do 100,000.

1806
01:49:03,870 --> 01:49:06,930
It's like they're just coming up
with ways to restrict what you

1807
01:49:06,930 --> 01:49:09,300
can do with your money. And when
your money's in the bank. I

1808
01:49:09,300 --> 01:49:12,930
mean, what is this great
percentage rate we get one that

1809
01:49:12,930 --> 01:49:17,310
tells us that much even that
much. Yeah. And I saw the I keep

1810
01:49:17,310 --> 01:49:22,080
getting offers from from Chase
for the Sapphire card. Have you

1811
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:28,200
seen this? No. Oh my god. So put
in $50,000 into a savings

1812
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,650
account. Okay, I don't have
that. But alright, let's presume

1813
01:49:31,650 --> 01:49:35,130
I had $50,000. And I put it into
a chase savings account. I will

1814
01:49:35,130 --> 01:49:39,570
get the Sapphire card which is a
credit card made of metal.

1815
01:49:40,770 --> 01:49:44,460
And I like that that's which is
a take off on the AMEX black,

1816
01:49:44,460 --> 01:49:48,690
black correct. And I'm seeing
people and then

1817
01:49:49,020 --> 01:49:51,060
what difference does it make if
it's made of metal?

1818
01:49:51,150 --> 01:49:55,140
Well, because it's a very pretty
card. I mean, it's it's it has

1819
01:49:55,230 --> 01:49:59,820
this blue royal kind of purplish
blue hue to it. Take a look and

1820
01:49:59,820 --> 01:50:03,930
then People will draw some faces
from Chase. Yeah. And so I've

1821
01:50:03,930 --> 01:50:07,170
seen people pay with this card
and they will throw it down

1822
01:50:07,170 --> 01:50:10,470
nonchalantly or drop it and go
no, it has this like

1823
01:50:11,250 --> 01:50:12,300
this. Yes metal

1824
01:50:13,769 --> 01:50:16,409
and people go oh yes, this is my
sapphire card.

1825
01:50:17,309 --> 01:50:20,369
This you know, these things is
that that blue ish looking?

1826
01:50:20,399 --> 01:50:28,439
Yeah, she card. Yes sapphire 20
Oh crap. Yeah. Is the card work

1827
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:29,159
or not?

1828
01:50:30,180 --> 01:50:32,490
Miserly my mind doesn't always

1829
01:50:32,490 --> 01:50:36,450
have to be harder for them to
cut the car. Mine doesn't always

1830
01:50:36,450 --> 01:50:37,470
seem to work.

1831
01:50:38,700 --> 01:50:41,880
By your estimation, John, how
long have we been broadcasting?

1832
01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:43,920
If you take out the stops we
had?

1833
01:50:44,130 --> 01:50:46,650
Is it time for our donations
lasted about two to three

1834
01:50:46,650 --> 01:50:47,970
minutes each. Okay, is

1835
01:50:47,970 --> 01:50:50,850
it time for the donation segment
because I've lost all the way

1836
01:50:50,850 --> 01:50:51,300
over during

1837
01:50:51,300 --> 01:50:53,490
the donation segment. I was just
waiting for you to cut to it.

1838
01:50:53,490 --> 01:50:57,090
Oh, here we go. I'm gonna show
my son moved by donate to no

1839
01:50:57,090 --> 01:51:00,090
agenda. Imagine all the people
who could do that. Oh yeah,

1840
01:51:00,090 --> 01:51:00,810
that'd be fun

1841
01:51:08,970 --> 01:51:12,690
indeed. So we do have a few
people to thank Andrew Holcomb

1842
01:51:12,690 --> 01:51:15,720
in Ann Arbor, Michigan 100 came
in with $125 and silently

1843
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:19,800
requested karma yesterday and it
arrived Nice. Thank you. Here's

1844
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:23,640
the donation to confirm that
karma and supporting to confirm

1845
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:27,390
that karma works and to support
your hard work gentleman

1846
01:51:27,750 --> 01:51:30,150
thank you so much that's very
kind of you and then we cut

1847
01:51:30,150 --> 01:51:37,530
right to the chase Oh wow. Oh,
yeah, that was I was not was not

1848
01:51:37,530 --> 01:51:38,670
expecting it. Here we go.

1849
01:51:41,910 --> 01:51:48,150
Tight again. Today. Yeah.
Meanwhile, we have a black night

1850
01:51:48,150 --> 01:51:51,540
I apparently because Craig
Porter in Jacksonville, Florida.

1851
01:51:52,470 --> 01:51:55,470
Donated 6969 And she'll fight
for the six hundreds who was not

1852
01:51:55,470 --> 01:51:57,870
announced as a night I think
this is because I changed my Pay

1853
01:51:57,870 --> 01:52:02,400
Pal email after I was knighted.
I was knighted on show two 328.

1854
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:05,730
So he's got another knighthood.
What's the deal? Now Chase Pay

1855
01:52:05,730 --> 01:52:09,900
Pal and bla bla. He wants to be
called a knight and Sir Craig

1856
01:52:09,900 --> 01:52:12,960
Porter under this donation. So
he needs to be renamed.

1857
01:52:12,990 --> 01:52:15,750
Yes, we have we have him on the
list for Yeah, we have him on

1858
01:52:15,750 --> 01:52:17,730
the list for a ceremony today.

1859
01:52:18,089 --> 01:52:23,939
Eric Thorson, Bergen. Hordaland
and Norway. 6969. These are all

1860
01:52:23,939 --> 01:52:31,109
6969 P Bo in Maastricht PIM as
he calls it. Nope. Just he would

1861
01:52:31,109 --> 01:52:34,469
like it. Psalm 6969. Carmen, I
suggest you give it to him.

1862
01:52:34,589 --> 01:52:40,859
Yes. Because that is the end of
our 69 Okay, here we go. You've

1863
01:52:40,859 --> 01:52:45,419
got karma 66. Did

1864
01:52:46,710 --> 01:52:50,910
we get down to one and this that
little guy yelling 6969 Dude, we

1865
01:52:50,910 --> 01:52:53,310
had somebody complaining that we
threatened to kill it. We're

1866
01:52:53,310 --> 01:52:53,910
gonna kill it.

1867
01:52:54,660 --> 01:52:57,570
No, it's when it's over. It's
done. Because I don't want to do

1868
01:52:57,750 --> 01:53:02,550
6969 to 61 guy and then the play
The thing again? That's very

1869
01:53:02,550 --> 01:53:07,800
dumb. Yeah, we'd rather have
6666 which is now we have 6666

1870
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:10,260
people including Lucas. Z.

1871
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:13,170
Z. Z one. Yeah, that's what I'd
say.

1872
01:53:13,230 --> 01:53:18,210
You Nick munition Deutschland
Andrew Gardner in Charlotte

1873
01:53:18,210 --> 01:53:25,350
Hall, Maryland, harsh shod Patel
in Bilston West Midlands. Brian

1874
01:53:25,350 --> 01:53:30,900
Watson in Sugar Grove, Illinois.
Terry Floyd in San Leandro,

1875
01:53:30,900 --> 01:53:33,390
California. I do have a note
from him. And he did write it in

1876
01:53:33,480 --> 01:53:37,290
my head with a hand of
handwritten longhand cursive

1877
01:53:37,500 --> 01:53:42,150
out some I don't know where it
is lost it. Where's the note?

1878
01:53:51,210 --> 01:53:52,830
Wow, that's working out great.
That

1879
01:53:54,150 --> 01:53:58,200
sounds like I'm like, I feel
like a bureaucrat. I got all

1880
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:02,100
these things printed out. I got
the lists. I got the note. And

1881
01:54:02,100 --> 01:54:04,020
the note seems to have
disappeared off the face of the

1882
01:54:04,020 --> 01:54:07,530
earth. Wait a minute. Hold on
one second. Could be in here. A

1883
01:54:07,530 --> 01:54:10,230
bit. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Great.

1884
01:54:11,099 --> 01:54:14,039
Yeah. Do you want me to just to
continue while you're looking

1885
01:54:14,039 --> 01:54:16,109
for that, or is there anything I
can do to help?

1886
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:19,680
It's not here. It's not here. It
was just again.

1887
01:54:20,730 --> 01:54:21,750
Terry Floyd.

1888
01:54:22,230 --> 01:54:25,320
Terry Floyd. Yeah, he says no,
and he signed it at the bottom.

1889
01:54:27,210 --> 01:54:30,630
I don't have the note anymore.
I'll maybe find it by the end of

1890
01:54:30,630 --> 01:54:32,760
this section. Good work. Sorry.

1891
01:54:33,270 --> 01:54:37,020
I had to note it's annoying.
It's okay. We'll come back to

1892
01:54:37,020 --> 01:54:37,440
Terry

1893
01:54:37,740 --> 01:54:40,590
I need a rubber stamp or
something or I need I need to

1894
01:54:40,590 --> 01:54:45,900
filing some I need a system. Oh
wait a minute. I found a note. I

1895
01:54:45,900 --> 01:54:48,480
know it and we will read some of
these notes when they hand

1896
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:52,950
shipped. In the morning I
donated a Bitcoin to Adam back

1897
01:54:52,950 --> 01:54:55,650
when you guys accepted them but
decided I owed you something

1898
01:54:55,650 --> 01:54:59,970
more after the outstanding work
you have to have done generated

1899
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,690
and generated over the past few
months. I sat on this check for

1900
01:55:03,690 --> 01:55:09,540
too long. And this stinks, by
the way, but check. You sat on

1901
01:55:09,540 --> 01:55:15,240
it too long. Okay, it wasn't
funny. Before I decided to send

1902
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:18,210
it out now that I heard your
analysis of the Silk Road take

1903
01:55:18,210 --> 01:55:23,760
down Adam was right on the
money. There are several fishy

1904
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,760
and contradictory details in the
affidavits from Maryland and New

1905
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:30,450
York filed against the Dread
Pirate Roberts by the way, we

1906
01:55:30,450 --> 01:55:31,290
haven't followed up on that

1907
01:55:31,590 --> 01:55:35,550
guy. Well, I keep seeing cartoon
drawings, you know, because I

1908
01:55:35,550 --> 01:55:38,190
guess he's, they bring in front
in front of some judge

1909
01:55:38,190 --> 01:55:40,860
somewhere, which apparently
press is not allowed because

1910
01:55:40,890 --> 01:55:45,660
Ooh, that will be too scary. So
I keep seeing drawings of him.

1911
01:55:45,660 --> 01:55:51,120
So I guess he's real. And he
denies that he's even Dread

1912
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:53,940
Pirate Roberts. He's not he's
denying. He's denying that he's

1913
01:55:53,940 --> 01:56:01,350
that And the crazy thing,
Bitcoin $155. Now this thing is

1914
01:56:01,350 --> 01:56:08,460
going back to an all time high.
So this whole exercise is fishy.

1915
01:56:09,390 --> 01:56:12,300
On Adams recommendation, I said
about this bid message client

1916
01:56:12,300 --> 01:56:16,320
and fired off a note to him, but
I have yet to receive a reply. I

1917
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:20,340
am the one who answers my email.
I really liked this tool. And

1918
01:56:20,340 --> 01:56:22,650
you can see a lot of potential
you know, you can publish a

1919
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:25,470
newsletter using bit messaging,
you won't have to deal with any

1920
01:56:25,470 --> 01:56:29,160
Google spam filters. True. Okay,
well, the

1921
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:32,970
problem with the bid message is
I am so I have everything loaded

1922
01:56:32,970 --> 01:56:36,090
on a USB stick, which is kind of
the preferred method so you can

1923
01:56:36,090 --> 01:56:38,880
just stick it into any computer
and fire up your bit message

1924
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:42,690
stick it Yeah. And but if you
don't after two days, any

1925
01:56:42,690 --> 01:56:46,740
messages sent to you get deleted
nightmare. Sometimes I forget. I

1926
01:56:46,740 --> 01:56:47,970
forget to stick it in.

1927
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:53,790
There you have it you get older.
Yeah. You forget to stick it in

1928
01:56:54,330 --> 01:57:00,690
shame. O'Hare. Shane O'hare and
was Silla Alaska. Or Arkansas.

1929
01:57:00,690 --> 01:57:02,460
It's Alaska. Silla.

1930
01:57:02,730 --> 01:57:04,920
We're still in Alaska. Yeah,
that's

1931
01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:09,900
where what's your name is from
Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin. The

1932
01:57:09,900 --> 01:57:16,470
defense 5560 William front
goglia In Cornelius North

1933
01:57:16,470 --> 01:57:21,540
Carolina. 3555. Sir Maxwell
Roberts. Double nickels on the

1934
01:57:21,540 --> 01:57:26,580
dime from Crown Point. Indiana.
Shannon Adkins in Warren,

1935
01:57:26,580 --> 01:57:30,930
Michigan $50. These are all 50.
Now, Tristan Mason and Auckland.

1936
01:57:31,500 --> 01:57:37,170
Wesley Bauman in are Bowman in
council Grove, Kansas. Matthew

1937
01:57:37,170 --> 01:57:39,630
Stevens in Fort Worth, Texas.
We're up the street from you,

1938
01:57:39,870 --> 01:57:44,460
Josh McDonald and Brunswick,
Victoria, Australia and finally

1939
01:57:44,460 --> 01:57:49,860
Jetson noble in Oxford,
Mississippi and Gary parks in

1940
01:57:49,890 --> 01:57:53,730
Oxnard, California. Plus, Chris
Slowinski our old buddy in

1941
01:57:53,730 --> 01:57:58,530
Sherwood Park, Alberta where all
the money is and Philip Mason in

1942
01:57:58,530 --> 01:58:03,690
powe's. That'll be our donation
segment for show 557

1943
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:08,760
Yes, and Sir Maxwell Roberts did
add a note. He needed some NBA

1944
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:13,050
karma for UT Austin and
University of North Carolina and

1945
01:58:13,050 --> 01:58:15,930
of course, we always try to do
everything for our our big

1946
01:58:15,930 --> 01:58:19,620
patrons, our knights, our
dame's, our barons, Dukes, etc.

1947
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:22,740
So we appreciate that. But of
course, thank you to everybody

1948
01:58:22,740 --> 01:58:26,850
who has stepped in today. Looks
like we are down on the sack of

1949
01:58:26,850 --> 01:58:32,100
sixes, we're gonna have to do a
big push before our our actual

1950
01:58:32,130 --> 01:58:37,920
celebration and swung what date
what date, the 26th and 28th.

1951
01:58:37,980 --> 01:58:44,310
Now it's the 26th I'm gonna
remember it now. And of course,

1952
01:58:44,490 --> 01:58:46,830
looks like the swells and off is
just about gone. But everyone

1953
01:58:46,830 --> 01:58:50,430
who has sent in and also on the
monthly 30 threes elevens the

1954
01:58:50,430 --> 01:58:53,340
twelves the fives the fours, the
twos. Thank you so much this

1955
01:58:53,340 --> 01:58:59,400
karma is for you. You've got
karma and we'd love more support

1956
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:02,640
for Sunday show make that list
just a tad bit longer. I know

1957
01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:05,970
it's hard with NPR doing their
drive right now.

1958
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:08,250
That's killing us.

1959
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:12,870
Yeah, I heard it. I heard a
plea. The other day was like,

1960
01:59:13,290 --> 01:59:17,490
there was some guy who was
reading like poetry about he was

1961
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:22,020
a kid. Yeah, it was poetry about
yoga. And then the host comes on

1962
01:59:22,020 --> 01:59:26,790
and she's like, Do you love
programming like this? Wouldn't

1963
01:59:26,790 --> 01:59:30,360
it be a shame programming like
this? We're no longer on NPR.

1964
01:59:30,390 --> 01:59:37,020
I'm like, wow, did you hear what
you just played? Really? Really?

1965
01:59:37,020 --> 01:59:40,470
I was quite weird anyway. They
take their money from they get

1966
01:59:40,470 --> 01:59:43,260
their money from advertising.
Big underwriters. You really

1967
01:59:43,260 --> 01:59:46,830
don't need to participate. I'm
sorry to say it but they get

1968
01:59:47,010 --> 01:59:49,650
they don't need your money. They
really don't need your money.

1969
01:59:49,710 --> 01:59:51,990
It'll make you feel good, but it
also make you feel good to

1970
01:59:51,990 --> 02:00:03,930
support the no agenda show
borak.org/and A That's and of

1971
02:00:03,930 --> 02:00:07,170
course right off the bat we need
to congratulate our grand super

1972
02:00:07,170 --> 02:00:11,550
Belgium Sir Stephen Pels.
mockers who celebrated on the

1973
02:00:11,550 --> 02:00:16,800
15th. Somehow we miss that is
quite a full pop. Kelly Canac

1974
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:19,950
says Happy Birthday to her
fiance, Jeremy Cooper. He

1975
02:00:19,950 --> 02:00:23,880
celebrated last Friday, October
11. And Sir Andrew Gardner says

1976
02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:29,190
Happy Birthday to Woody
celebrating on these 17 What do

1977
02:00:29,190 --> 02:00:31,710
you of course photographer and
that's happy birthday from the

1978
02:00:31,710 --> 02:00:35,070
no agenda racing team and all of
your friends here at the best

1979
02:00:35,070 --> 02:00:41,490
staff and management of the no
agenda show. Which is pretty

1980
02:00:41,490 --> 02:00:45,780
much what you hear. Right here.
That's that's what we got. We we

1981
02:00:45,780 --> 02:00:46,650
are I have a

1982
02:00:47,250 --> 02:00:48,870
we're lean and mean. We are

1983
02:00:48,870 --> 02:00:53,790
very lean and mean and we have
bring out let's bring out a

1984
02:00:53,790 --> 02:00:57,390
Black Knight I guess so what
Craig Porter please. You don't

1985
02:00:57,390 --> 02:01:00,060
mind sir. Step forward. We're
not sure what happened. But

1986
02:01:00,090 --> 02:01:04,320
there you go. It's how it goes
with a skeleton staff. Thank you

1987
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:06,930
very much for your support. For
the no agenda show and the

1988
02:01:06,930 --> 02:01:10,650
amount of $1,000 more I hereby
probably pronounced the search

1989
02:01:10,650 --> 02:01:13,560
Greg partner. Night of the no
agenda round table for you.

1990
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:16,080
We've got hookers and blow three
geishas in a bucket of fried

1991
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:18,840
chicken, red boys and Chardonnay
if you prefer hot pans and

1992
02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:22,170
booze, wenches and beer geishas
and softy, vodka, vanilla,

1993
02:01:22,380 --> 02:01:25,530
sparkling cider, and escorts,
bong hits and bourbon, or maybe

1994
02:01:25,530 --> 02:01:29,310
just plain old mutton and Mead.
Regardless, your chair is here

1995
02:01:29,310 --> 02:01:32,790
now in perpetuity, at the night
of the roundtable for the

1996
02:01:32,790 --> 02:01:36,450
Knights and the dames. Go to
nogen nation.com/rings to pick

1997
02:01:36,450 --> 02:01:41,070
up your well deserved night
ring. And thank you again for

1998
02:01:41,070 --> 02:01:45,810
supporting the show. And again,
we'll we'll need your support on

1999
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:46,530
Sunday.

2000
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:50,190
Yes, indeed. Oh,

2001
02:01:50,190 --> 02:01:52,530
hopefully you miss me. He'll be
better by then. Better

2002
02:01:52,530 --> 02:01:55,530
because I'm sure she'll be fine.
Tomorrow. Three, day three.

2003
02:01:55,530 --> 02:01:57,690
She's not looking too good. She
was okay. A lot of these things

2004
02:01:57,690 --> 02:02:00,840
last about three days. Just lay
off the kale.

2005
02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:03,300
I think it's the kale that did
it.

2006
02:02:04,710 --> 02:02:10,080
So I gotta get kind of a grape
local. play this clip and then I

2007
02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:12,600
want to I want to deconstruct
this a little bit and read and

2008
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:15,780
so because my conclusion about
this kind of thing is just

2009
02:02:15,780 --> 02:02:20,370
annoying. PAL I'm sorry. It
would be nice if you knew what

2010
02:02:20,370 --> 02:02:24,000
the clip was. Yeah, what helped
write Palo Alto Emergency Alert

2011
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:24,510
System.

2012
02:02:24,809 --> 02:02:28,499
Okay, meanwhile, my computer's a
little wonky. We got

2013
02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:31,590
some Peninsula residents were
surprised by an emergency

2014
02:02:31,590 --> 02:02:34,380
message they received. Yes, I'm
27,000 Palo

2015
02:02:34,380 --> 02:02:39,270
Alto residents got this noisy
smartphone emergency alert about

2016
02:02:39,750 --> 02:02:44,370
of all things. A charity pancake
breakfast, obviously was not an

2017
02:02:44,370 --> 02:02:48,000
emergency KPI X fives Len
Ramirez spoke to some people who

2018
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:50,670
say the fire department is
abusing this system.

2019
02:02:52,170 --> 02:02:54,690
The instant message went out on
the county's emergency

2020
02:02:54,690 --> 02:02:58,800
notification system to 10s of
1000s of people in Palo Alto all

2021
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:01,620
at once I got the alert in three
ways. I got a text an email a

2022
02:03:01,620 --> 02:03:05,070
phone call under the header
alert sec. The Palo Alto Fire

2023
02:03:05,070 --> 02:03:08,070
Department sent out word that
they were a holding a pancake

2024
02:03:08,070 --> 02:03:11,310
breakfast Saturday morning and
be that a helicopter would be

2025
02:03:11,310 --> 02:03:14,880
landing at a local school for
demonstration purposes only. In

2026
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:17,400
retrospect if I had to do it
again, I probably would have put

2027
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:20,850
the helicopter in the first or
second sentence fire chief Eric

2028
02:03:20,850 --> 02:03:23,730
Nikhil defended using the alert
system which was designed

2029
02:03:23,730 --> 02:03:26,970
primarily for major emergencies
and Sesa when the system is

2030
02:03:26,970 --> 02:03:30,720
homepage for the community event
which benefited projects safety

2031
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:31,620
net. Yeah, I've

2032
02:03:31,620 --> 02:03:36,180
been following this and as you
know, I've got some some some

2033
02:03:36,180 --> 02:03:37,320
info so I can

2034
02:03:37,500 --> 02:03:40,980
well project safety net is the
key here Yes. What is this

2035
02:03:40,980 --> 02:03:43,680
project safety net and in fact
LD there's a bunch of these

2036
02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:47,310
things going on in Palo Alto and
they tend to be oriented or

2037
02:03:47,310 --> 02:03:50,730
about the as they put it on if
you start digging around the

2038
02:03:50,730 --> 02:03:53,310
websites, and I thought it was
interesting because they keep

2039
02:03:53,310 --> 02:04:00,330
changing is the LG bt TQQ
community. Cute double que Yes,

2040
02:04:00,330 --> 02:04:00,690
double

2041
02:04:00,690 --> 02:04:03,420
que quiere and Queenie

2042
02:04:04,050 --> 02:04:07,440
questioning that would be you my
friend. Ah,

2043
02:04:07,470 --> 02:04:12,510
I'm questioning I prefer by
curious but questioning is I

2044
02:04:12,510 --> 02:04:15,450
think I fall in that I do fall
in this category.

2045
02:04:15,660 --> 02:04:21,420
There's also LGBT que si. And I
and there's a bunch of other

2046
02:04:21,420 --> 02:04:23,850
ones. And so I started looking
into this and realizing that

2047
02:04:23,850 --> 02:04:28,320
apparently the the LGBTQ
community has taken over the

2048
02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:31,350
emergency system. And they're
the ones making these broadcasts

2049
02:04:31,350 --> 02:04:34,590
because they were so important.
And I realized, you know, it's

2050
02:04:34,590 --> 02:04:38,430
so funny to follow this this the
history of this moniker. And

2051
02:04:38,430 --> 02:04:43,230
there's a really good page, LGBT
web page on the Wikipedia. And

2052
02:04:43,230 --> 02:04:47,250
of course I'm always reminded
when I was working at WME VO and

2053
02:04:47,430 --> 02:04:52,380
Brooks who's a fairly notorious
gay guy there was there he was

2054
02:04:52,410 --> 02:04:55,320
he always said he never could
figure out when it happened when

2055
02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:59,730
they changed it from GLB T to
LGBT

2056
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:04,080
one that uses be gay and lesbian
uses to be just began lesbian,

2057
02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:07,110
but then the lesbians didn't
like that. At first it was gay

2058
02:05:07,200 --> 02:05:10,470
and because lesbians are gay,
but the lesbians didn't like

2059
02:05:10,470 --> 02:05:12,570
that, because they didn't want
to be associated with the men

2060
02:05:12,570 --> 02:05:16,590
with penis. So they have to
exist. So they had to make it.

2061
02:05:16,890 --> 02:05:20,490
And then you know, GLBT was
because the Baiser irked. And so

2062
02:05:20,490 --> 02:05:24,390
were the transgenders. And so
now everybody's irked. And it

2063
02:05:24,390 --> 02:05:27,300
doesn't seem to be like a group
with cohesion, even though they

2064
02:05:27,300 --> 02:05:30,390
have a party once in a while. It
seems like they just at each

2065
02:05:30,390 --> 02:05:33,660
other's throats. And there's a
bunch of crazy stuff that goes

2066
02:05:33,660 --> 02:05:36,810
on including these, you know,
the third gender identity, which

2067
02:05:36,810 --> 02:05:39,720
is one of these things that's
that's being promoted in India.

2068
02:05:40,050 --> 02:05:41,400
And so you end up with,

2069
02:05:41,850 --> 02:05:43,980
well hold on, what about CBT i

2070
02:05:44,010 --> 02:05:50,580
h, because Hijra ha j are a
third gender identity has its

2071
02:05:50,580 --> 02:05:55,290
own subculture. And so this is
getting really carried away with

2072
02:05:55,290 --> 02:05:57,360
all this kinda. And I would
recommend people reading the

2073
02:05:57,360 --> 02:06:03,630
entire page of the LGBT page on
Wikipedia, because it discusses

2074
02:06:03,660 --> 02:06:08,220
kind of the history of this. And
I just find the whole thing to

2075
02:06:08,220 --> 02:06:11,310
be I don't know if it's
laughable, but why are they

2076
02:06:11,310 --> 02:06:15,000
sending out emergency messages
for a pancake breakfast? Have

2077
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:19,650
you ever been to a pancake
breakfast? No ludicrous. It's a

2078
02:06:19,650 --> 02:06:23,970
bunch of cheap pancakes with a
bunch of cheap, the cheapest,

2079
02:06:23,970 --> 02:06:26,550
there's no real maple syrup
there. I guarantee it even in

2080
02:06:26,550 --> 02:06:31,140
Palo Alto, it'll be some sort of
high fructose corn syrup mixture

2081
02:06:31,320 --> 02:06:34,050
that you dump on there with a
bunch of cheap butter or

2082
02:06:34,050 --> 02:06:36,840
margarine and then you eat this
in public

2083
02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:42,240
while people are watching you

2084
02:06:45,090 --> 02:06:49,860
know I scold the LGBTQ Q
community for

2085
02:06:49,890 --> 02:06:54,720
Boris using this system. So let
me understand by the way,

2086
02:06:54,720 --> 02:06:57,870
I expect Amber Alerts to have
advertisements within the next

2087
02:06:57,870 --> 02:06:59,550
five years I'm putting it in the
Red Book.

2088
02:06:59,790 --> 02:07:04,740
I was received a couple of
screenshots from the so first of

2089
02:07:04,740 --> 02:07:08,430
all, this is all part of the
commercial mobile alert system

2090
02:07:08,430 --> 02:07:14,100
cm a s and CMAs also known as
wireless emergency alerts, you

2091
02:07:14,100 --> 02:07:17,280
know as we know they work
through the cell tower system

2092
02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:21,210
and they're broadcasting to you
directly we got another we got

2093
02:07:21,210 --> 02:07:24,930
another one of these I'm Nikki's
phone the other day because it

2094
02:07:24,930 --> 02:07:28,230
has almost been raining kind of
like nonstop for a couple of

2095
02:07:28,230 --> 02:07:33,450
days here and awesome but really
you know flash flooding etc and

2096
02:07:33,450 --> 02:07:36,870
this is all part of the giant
voice system as we know it as

2097
02:07:36,870 --> 02:07:40,710
the you know the slave training
tools which will tell you to

2098
02:07:40,710 --> 02:07:43,830
shelter in place cower in the
corner

2099
02:07:43,860 --> 02:07:48,300
or you get this is the giant
voice system on Saturday there

2100
02:07:48,300 --> 02:07:50,250
will be a pancake breakfast

2101
02:07:52,050 --> 02:07:58,230
Yeah, exactly. He sent us a
second I've got it I saved him

2102
02:07:58,230 --> 02:08:02,790
here in the show notes so in the
Canadian system on Android

2103
02:08:02,790 --> 02:08:05,550
because this as far as I know
right now I've only seen this on

2104
02:08:05,550 --> 02:08:09,690
the iPhone I haven't seen it on
the on the new Android so he has

2105
02:08:10,050 --> 02:08:15,570
it's just crazy. So there's you
can set your preferences. So

2106
02:08:15,570 --> 02:08:19,710
Cell Broadcast settings. Here's
the preferences, show extreme

2107
02:08:19,710 --> 02:08:22,470
threats and these are all
checked by default of course,

2108
02:08:23,130 --> 02:08:26,820
which I'm reading directly from
the screen show extreme threats

2109
02:08:26,820 --> 02:08:30,090
display alerts for extreme
threats to life and property.

2110
02:08:30,180 --> 02:08:33,630
I'm going to uncheck that one
that was That sounds boring.

2111
02:08:34,140 --> 02:08:38,640
Show severe threats. Display
alerts for severe threats to

2112
02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:41,910
life and property that's checked
by default show Amber Alerts,

2113
02:08:42,090 --> 02:08:45,480
display child abduction
emergency bulletins, turn on

2114
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:49,890
notifications altogether. And
then you can select the alert

2115
02:08:49,890 --> 02:08:54,570
sound duration which is four
seconds by default BBB BBB BBB

2116
02:08:54,570 --> 02:08:59,250
vibrate on alert and also speak
alert message use text to speech

2117
02:08:59,640 --> 02:09:03,870
to speak emergency alerts. And
then we have the E TW s

2118
02:09:03,870 --> 02:09:10,170
settings. Do I have these here?
Yes. Display test broadcasts for

2119
02:09:10,200 --> 02:09:16,050
earthquake tsunami warning
system. Show see M A 's test

2120
02:09:16,050 --> 02:09:18,900
broadcasts, which is displayed
test broadcasts for the

2121
02:09:18,900 --> 02:09:22,980
commercial mobile alert system
and show the opt out dialog at

2122
02:09:22,980 --> 02:09:27,780
the end. Which says show an opt
out dialog after displaying the

2123
02:09:27,780 --> 02:09:32,340
first CMAs alert other than
presidential alerts. You see

2124
02:09:32,340 --> 02:09:36,300
when when the food or talks
then, obviously you know we

2125
02:09:36,300 --> 02:09:40,500
can't turn that one off. To this
is just another great reason why

2126
02:09:40,500 --> 02:09:43,890
I don't carry a cell phone
anymore. This is insanity. And

2127
02:09:43,890 --> 02:09:48,420
you're right, getting pancake
breakfast commercial messages.

2128
02:09:50,070 --> 02:09:52,020
I'm still kind of thrown by the
queue thing.

2129
02:09:53,730 --> 02:09:56,010
That I can't complain as much
anymore

2130
02:09:56,130 --> 02:09:58,590
because I'm questioning but now
I'm part of the group.

2131
02:09:59,309 --> 02:10:01,499
You're part of This group does
crowd

2132
02:10:01,890 --> 02:10:05,310
outlet. Is that what they're
called outlet? outlet is an

2133
02:10:05,310 --> 02:10:09,510
LGBTQ youth organization. Oh, I
can't be youth. But I could be a

2134
02:10:09,510 --> 02:10:10,770
big brother at outlet.

2135
02:10:11,100 --> 02:10:12,030
Yeah, you could.

2136
02:10:13,559 --> 02:10:15,749
Hi, kids. Hi. And

2137
02:10:15,750 --> 02:10:19,410
they're here to support and
empower the LGBTQ Q

2138
02:10:19,439 --> 02:10:23,099
I've been questioning all my
life. Is there anyone here who

2139
02:10:23,099 --> 02:10:24,869
could help push me over the
edge,

2140
02:10:25,079 --> 02:10:27,419
there's a bunch of these things
in Palo Alto is another reach

2141
02:10:27,449 --> 02:10:32,279
out.com Reach Out is run by the
Inspire USA foundation. Look

2142
02:10:32,279 --> 02:10:37,019
that one inspires mission is to
help millions of young people

2143
02:10:37,019 --> 02:10:42,299
lead happier lives. There's a
money sponge. There's another

2144
02:10:42,299 --> 02:10:46,949
one. ACS just for teens,
adolescent counseling service

2145
02:10:46,949 --> 02:10:49,679
empowers teens and their
families in our community to

2146
02:10:49,679 --> 02:10:52,499
realize their emotional and
social potential through

2147
02:10:52,499 --> 02:10:56,669
counseling and preventative
preventative education, whatever

2148
02:10:56,669 --> 02:10:58,769
that means that as long as
you're not black, you can go to

2149
02:10:58,769 --> 02:11:03,359
that. The Trevor Project is the
leading national organization

2150
02:11:03,359 --> 02:11:07,049
providing crisis intervention
and suicide prevention services

2151
02:11:07,049 --> 02:11:10,979
for lesbian, gay, bisexual,
transgender and questioning

2152
02:11:10,979 --> 02:11:14,099
youth. So I guess the
questioning user also suicidal.

2153
02:11:15,599 --> 02:11:21,599
Palo Alto has got issues. Yeah,
no kidding. Wow. And it was just

2154
02:11:21,599 --> 02:11:25,739
named the best place in the
world to live. If you can afford

2155
02:11:25,739 --> 02:11:29,489
it. Yes, the most expensive
place in the Bay Area, generally

2156
02:11:29,489 --> 02:11:34,619
speaking less you go to
Hillsborough. Anyway, that's my

2157
02:11:34,619 --> 02:11:34,859
little

2158
02:11:34,890 --> 02:11:35,760
gripe for now. That's,

2159
02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:41,460
that's good. And it looks like I
finally got an email titled Red

2160
02:11:41,460 --> 02:11:48,540
Book denial. Like what? Yeah, so
this red book, this RB, what is

2161
02:11:48,540 --> 02:11:55,050
it RRD BK dotnet. So apparently,
one of the Red Book entries that

2162
02:11:55,050 --> 02:11:59,220
we have in our official red book
went on his website. And my read

2163
02:11:59,220 --> 02:12:01,020
would prediction was deputy
director of the National

2164
02:12:01,020 --> 02:12:04,290
Security Agency, John C. Inglis
will become the next Secretary

2165
02:12:04,290 --> 02:12:06,990
of Homeland Security replacing
Janet Napolitano when she

2166
02:12:06,990 --> 02:12:11,310
leaves. Now we've had no
replacement. As far as I know,

2167
02:12:11,790 --> 02:12:16,890
and the news came out that
Kaiser Alexander is quitting.

2168
02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:23,130
Yes, along with his second in
command, John C. Inglis and yeah

2169
02:12:23,160 --> 02:12:27,630
and then so someone went on the
red book site and said I think

2170
02:12:27,630 --> 02:12:29,910
it's safe to say this is not
going to happen now that he's

2171
02:12:29,910 --> 02:12:34,410
being forced out you're denied I
don't Yeah, yeah. And then I got

2172
02:12:34,410 --> 02:12:36,780
an email like I'm denied and
it's not true that they could

2173
02:12:36,780 --> 02:12:37,170
see you

2174
02:12:37,170 --> 02:12:41,010
denied because what it says it's
it says denied on the website

2175
02:12:41,010 --> 02:12:41,760
denied me

2176
02:12:41,790 --> 02:12:46,920
I don't know. This is the this
is the site anyway said denied.

2177
02:12:47,370 --> 02:12:51,690
So I guess that mean to my my
red book entry has been denied.

2178
02:12:51,690 --> 02:12:54,480
I don't know what that means.
What was your red book entry?

2179
02:12:55,410 --> 02:12:56,610
What I just told you that

2180
02:12:56,640 --> 02:12:59,490
England was gonna go to Homeland
Security? Yeah.

2181
02:12:59,940 --> 02:13:03,270
I think it's so possible. Yeah,
sure it is.

2182
02:13:04,200 --> 02:13:05,970
So why would it be denied? Well,

2183
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:09,240
this is why I don't like it.
Okay, well, you mentioned it's

2184
02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:16,620
not gonna get any more approval.
If Adam Curry who has read book

2185
02:13:16,620 --> 02:13:21,900
authorization phase, I asked
secret authorization to actually

2186
02:13:21,900 --> 02:13:22,620
use the red

2187
02:13:22,860 --> 02:13:26,700
clearance. Whenever he says goes
in there I have red book

2188
02:13:26,700 --> 02:13:27,420
clearance.

2189
02:13:27,660 --> 02:13:31,080
He has total clearance for the
Red Book. So whatever he says he

2190
02:13:31,080 --> 02:13:35,790
can be full of crap, which is
possible. It still goes in the

2191
02:13:35,790 --> 02:13:40,380
red book to be used later as a
pointer. He was full of crap on

2192
02:13:40,380 --> 02:13:41,700
this No, that's terrible.

2193
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:44,730
I don't think I think it's still
good they maybe they use the

2194
02:13:44,730 --> 02:13:45,780
wrong IP address. Maybe

2195
02:13:45,780 --> 02:13:48,180
they saw you as just some
interloper, not the real Adam

2196
02:13:48,180 --> 02:13:48,600
curry.

2197
02:13:49,620 --> 02:13:53,490
Regardless of that, it is of
course very interesting to see

2198
02:13:53,520 --> 02:13:58,500
Alexander saying he's going to
leave in six months along with

2199
02:13:58,500 --> 02:14:03,570
English and I will say that the
smart thing for these guys to do

2200
02:14:03,570 --> 02:14:06,540
would be to start their own
consulting company they've set

2201
02:14:06,540 --> 02:14:07,410
up beautifully it's

2202
02:14:07,410 --> 02:14:11,310
gonna go right to work probably
for for Sharecare Tov

2203
02:14:11,310 --> 02:14:13,200
you think we'll go straight
because because this guy they

2204
02:14:13,200 --> 02:14:14,820
actually they don't call him
Kaiser

2205
02:14:15,150 --> 02:14:18,150
let's face he's not an
entrepreneur. Take a look at

2206
02:14:18,150 --> 02:14:21,930
him. But as a guy as a students,
church office operation just do

2207
02:14:21,930 --> 02:14:25,080
some lobbying, and probably take
a few records of of them if you

2208
02:14:25,080 --> 02:14:27,390
know what I'm saying. You know,
be kind of the official

2209
02:14:27,390 --> 02:14:29,340
blackmailer for the for the
place got

2210
02:14:29,340 --> 02:14:33,780
some info. Yeah. He was they
used to call him Alexander the

2211
02:14:33,780 --> 02:14:36,780
geek. When he was a kid,

2212
02:14:36,810 --> 02:14:40,080
it's all geeky wouldn't have
that Star Trek thing. Take that

2213
02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:40,680
with him. Yeah,

2214
02:14:40,710 --> 02:14:46,080
he's a break that down and put
that in the truck. They called

2215
02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:48,540
him the Emperor actually, I've
been reading I've been reading

2216
02:14:48,540 --> 02:14:53,910
up on his on his past. And that
is what they would what they

2217
02:14:53,910 --> 02:14:57,600
would call him inside the
hallowed walls in DC they call

2218
02:14:57,600 --> 02:15:00,510
him Emperor Alexander. So we
actually by calling him Kaiser

2219
02:15:00,720 --> 02:15:06,090
we're actually close. Close but
I think Emperor is above Kaiser,

2220
02:15:06,090 --> 02:15:06,540
isn't it?

2221
02:15:06,810 --> 02:15:07,920
I think they're equal.

2222
02:15:11,639 --> 02:15:16,169
Toes Yeah, that's that's
surprising yet. Is it really I

2223
02:15:16,169 --> 02:15:20,579
mean, here's the guy who has has
the goods on everybody. He has

2224
02:15:20,579 --> 02:15:26,099
built this, this army now that
and is frightened all these

2225
02:15:26,129 --> 02:15:31,289
nincompoops in Congress about
the horrible threats to our

2226
02:15:31,319 --> 02:15:36,149
world. And, and he and his
cronies are just sitting there

2227
02:15:36,149 --> 02:15:40,139
lying. And no one calls him on
it and they just get to phase a

2228
02:15:40,139 --> 02:15:43,289
pitch. It'd be a big party to
when they leave. They can't they

2229
02:15:43,289 --> 02:15:47,189
get the huge party, and it's
rolling for himself. But if I

2230
02:15:47,189 --> 02:15:49,829
was him, I wouldn't go to work
for Chertoff. I think I'd start

2231
02:15:49,829 --> 02:15:52,139
my own gig. I think he could do
it. I think he has the goods on

2232
02:15:52,139 --> 02:15:55,319
enough people. Don't you think?

2233
02:15:55,620 --> 02:16:00,090
Yeah, no, if I would, if you
were him, you would start your

2234
02:16:00,090 --> 02:16:02,970
own thing and you'd have like a
five person operation it'd be

2235
02:16:02,970 --> 02:16:06,060
kind of, you know, an
intelligence security operation

2236
02:16:06,060 --> 02:16:08,820
be a little different than
shortstops operation, I believe.

2237
02:16:09,360 --> 02:16:12,870
But you know, that other guy,
Hayden, you know, went over to

2238
02:16:12,870 --> 02:16:15,630
work for Chertoff and he's kind
of the CIA guy he was the head

2239
02:16:15,630 --> 02:16:19,530
of the NSA for a while and he
felt fit right in and he'd be

2240
02:16:19,530 --> 02:16:22,290
the guy that would kind of
cajole Alexander the guy coming

2241
02:16:22,290 --> 02:16:24,780
over here you know you can
always start your own thing

2242
02:16:24,780 --> 02:16:26,880
later but you want to get the
you know, you want to get you

2243
02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:29,370
want to get your feet wet you
want to get the west you would

2244
02:16:29,370 --> 02:16:31,770
you'd like to see if you like it
here you might like it here I

2245
02:16:31,770 --> 02:16:34,260
won't have to start your own
thing. We got plenty of money

2246
02:16:34,260 --> 02:16:34,770
boy,

2247
02:16:34,800 --> 02:16:37,410
right build build up your your
Rolodex,

2248
02:16:37,500 --> 02:16:39,180
get your creds, and you know

2249
02:16:40,709 --> 02:16:44,189
I love I love the we got plenty
of money Boy, that's my

2250
02:16:44,189 --> 02:16:47,669
favorite. You got plenty of
money boy.

2251
02:16:49,500 --> 02:16:54,960
So, you know, is it he'll do
okay? And I don't I just don't

2252
02:16:54,960 --> 02:16:59,130
see him. You know, being the top
guy church officer is the

2253
02:16:59,160 --> 02:17:04,590
bullcrap artists that can really
you know do some damage you

2254
02:17:04,590 --> 02:17:08,130
know, he's he's a good frontman.
He is hardcore, like the devil.

2255
02:17:08,220 --> 02:17:11,970
You know, as he does that a
skull for a face. It's horrible.

2256
02:17:12,840 --> 02:17:18,690
scare the crap out of you. So
you have a horse problem in the

2257
02:17:18,690 --> 02:17:24,270
western states. A horse problem?
Yeah, horse problem, play wild

2258
02:17:24,270 --> 02:17:25,380
horse problem.

2259
02:17:27,270 --> 02:17:31,440
There is renewed controversy in
New Mexico over a plan to reopen

2260
02:17:31,440 --> 02:17:34,800
horse slaughterhouses, which
have been banned in this country

2261
02:17:34,800 --> 02:17:38,250
for six years. Hari Sreenivasan
has our report about what's

2262
02:17:38,250 --> 02:17:42,990
triggered this debate and then
bring them on in along the fence

2263
02:17:42,990 --> 02:17:45,810
line but several times a week
this summer, residents of the

2264
02:17:45,810 --> 02:17:49,710
Navajo Indian Reservation in New
Mexico mapped out a game plan.

2265
02:17:51,330 --> 02:17:54,810
They set up a temporary pen and
then headed out by horseback and

2266
02:17:54,810 --> 02:17:58,980
ATVs to round up groups of wild
horses that have become a threat

2267
02:17:58,980 --> 02:18:01,680
to the livelihood of farmers and
ranchers here.

2268
02:18:01,980 --> 02:18:05,100
These horses are bouncing in
between ranches in between

2269
02:18:05,100 --> 02:18:08,790
homesteads. They're again eating
the forage drinking the water

2270
02:18:08,790 --> 02:18:12,870
each horse feral horse we
estimate eats anywhere between

2271
02:18:12,870 --> 02:18:17,550
five and 18 pounds of forage a
day. They drink between five and

2272
02:18:17,550 --> 02:18:19,680
15 gallons of water a day.

2273
02:18:21,420 --> 02:18:24,540
Bernie za spokesman for the
tribe estimates that feral

2274
02:18:24,540 --> 02:18:27,480
horses that is horses that run
wild but at one time were

2275
02:18:27,480 --> 02:18:32,400
domesticated cost the Navajos
$200,000 a year in damages.

2276
02:18:32,640 --> 02:18:36,450
There are approximately 70,000
of them in northwestern New

2277
02:18:36,450 --> 02:18:39,870
Mexico alone and Zaha says
they're putting a tremendous

2278
02:18:39,870 --> 02:18:43,740
strain on the land and resources
land that is already struggling

2279
02:18:43,740 --> 02:18:46,470
from a catastrophic drought. I
say

2280
02:18:46,950 --> 02:18:51,090
Edom well that's what we're
trying to do. But the animal

2281
02:18:51,090 --> 02:18:54,270
rights folks don't seem to care
about and you know, they think

2282
02:18:54,270 --> 02:18:57,420
that you know, a lot of people
eat horse meat. A lot of

2283
02:18:57,420 --> 02:19:01,260
cultures I mean they do in China
they do and Slovenia is like a

2284
02:19:01,260 --> 02:19:03,720
big horse meat even though they
don't like to admit it to

2285
02:19:03,750 --> 02:19:08,610
outsiders. And I went to a horse
meat specialty steakhouse when I

2286
02:19:08,610 --> 02:19:14,370
was there and had a big slab of
sirloin horsemeat which was kind

2287
02:19:14,370 --> 02:19:18,930
of dance I guess I did
Slovenians I don't know it's not

2288
02:19:18,930 --> 02:19:23,850
that I don't dislike horse meat,
but it's not something I mean it

2289
02:19:23,850 --> 02:19:25,620
makes a good talk so I had in
Mexico

2290
02:19:25,650 --> 02:19:28,830
I've had have had that's fine
with me i also have no problem

2291
02:19:28,830 --> 02:19:30,990
with it. I'm not I don't have
problem I don't have a problem

2292
02:19:30,990 --> 02:19:34,800
with the thought of it. I mean,
there was a big thing recently

2293
02:19:34,800 --> 02:19:38,130
like a couple months back in the
UK. The horse meat is in

2294
02:19:38,130 --> 02:19:42,270
everything and it's a Tescos and
it's at Burger King and it said

2295
02:19:42,630 --> 02:19:45,450
yeah Mac King Berg burgers
obviously coming in

2296
02:19:45,450 --> 02:19:48,660
from outside the country because
they banned somehow but played

2297
02:19:48,660 --> 02:19:50,970
this play this out that play
horse part two

2298
02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:54,600
round ups, in which horses are
chased across open land into

2299
02:19:54,600 --> 02:19:59,520
makeshift corrals and then
loaded into trailers to head to

2300
02:19:59,520 --> 02:20:03,270
auction Many of the horses end
up in slaughterhouses in Canada

2301
02:20:03,270 --> 02:20:07,800
and Mexico, their meat exported
to China or Europe, where unlike

2302
02:20:07,800 --> 02:20:12,990
the US, horse meat is regularly
consumed. The United States shut

2303
02:20:12,990 --> 02:20:16,260
down horse slaughterhouses in
this country six years ago when

2304
02:20:16,260 --> 02:20:19,680
it prohibited federal funding
for inspectors. But recently

2305
02:20:19,680 --> 02:20:24,420
Congress removed it was the law
of the land. And this summer,

2306
02:20:24,570 --> 02:20:28,200
the USDA awarded the first
permit that would allow horse

2307
02:20:28,200 --> 02:20:31,590
slaughter to resume in the US.
It was a decision that ignited a

2308
02:20:31,590 --> 02:20:35,040
nationwide debate about the
practice of killing horses for

2309
02:20:35,040 --> 02:20:36,210
me. Wow, I

2310
02:20:36,210 --> 02:20:39,180
can just I can just see this I
can already see it come in here

2311
02:20:39,180 --> 02:20:44,490
and Texas has gonna be protests
and it's all sad. I can see

2312
02:20:44,490 --> 02:20:44,670
this.

2313
02:20:45,630 --> 02:20:48,210
Llama but people shouldn't
discuss this the next dinner.

2314
02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:55,350
Yeah. Oh, the poor horsey. You
can eat a horsey. So play part

2315
02:20:55,350 --> 02:20:58,500
three, and you have a couple a
second comments.

2316
02:20:58,770 --> 02:21:01,890
Rios concedes that humane
euthanasia and population

2317
02:21:01,890 --> 02:21:05,370
control are very expensive
remedies. Euthanasia costs

2318
02:21:05,370 --> 02:21:09,480
roughly $300 per horse, and
that's not including the cost to

2319
02:21:09,480 --> 02:21:13,560
round it up. Right now.
Contraception for wild horses is

2320
02:21:13,560 --> 02:21:16,680
difficult to administer. It
involves shooting darts from

2321
02:21:16,680 --> 02:21:20,250
helicopters, the treatment that
must be reinjected every two

2322
02:21:20,250 --> 02:21:24,120
years. Rios is opposed to
slaughter, but she says it's not

2323
02:21:24,120 --> 02:21:29,040
a simple issue. She says horses
are dying every day in trucks as

2324
02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:31,680
they're shipped out of the
country and on the range land

2325
02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:34,650
when they run out of food. She
thinks the government has been

2326
02:21:34,650 --> 02:21:37,260
delinquent by not spending
enough money to deal with the

2327
02:21:37,260 --> 02:21:41,670
problem. It's inhumane to let
animals starve to death

2328
02:21:41,700 --> 02:21:44,970
dehydrate to death. procreate.

2329
02:21:45,450 --> 02:21:49,140
Excuse me, isn't that the
definition of inhumane is

2330
02:21:49,260 --> 02:21:59,490
animals. It's an inhumane means
not treated like a human. Well,

2331
02:21:59,670 --> 02:22:02,970
it's as you say, it's inhumane
to treat animals that way. Isn't

2332
02:22:02,970 --> 02:22:05,370
that like some kind of paradise

2333
02:22:05,640 --> 02:22:08,430
that we have? Now you brought
this up? I have to we have to

2334
02:22:08,430 --> 02:22:09,120
look it up. I'm

2335
02:22:09,120 --> 02:22:10,950
gonna finish the last 16 seconds

2336
02:22:11,730 --> 02:22:16,170
procreate at a level that the
environment is unable to

2337
02:22:16,170 --> 02:22:22,020
support. So that's why at the
shelter, we wouldn't just say we

2338
02:22:22,020 --> 02:22:25,650
were against slaughter, we are
for humane alternatives.

2339
02:22:27,060 --> 02:22:30,150
Cremation, what are the human
doing?

2340
02:22:30,420 --> 02:22:33,120
When I say we should bring
wolves back to whatever?

2341
02:22:33,449 --> 02:22:37,079
What humane alternatives do we
have for animals? This is going

2342
02:22:37,079 --> 02:22:37,349
this is

2343
02:22:38,610 --> 02:22:43,650
inhumane means lacking pity or
compassion. It's got nothing to

2344
02:22:43,650 --> 02:22:44,250
do with anything.

2345
02:22:44,820 --> 02:22:48,540
Well, Oh, okay. I thought the
word human was in there.

2346
02:22:49,080 --> 02:22:53,610
Yeah, well, no, it means lackey.
Not acting like a like as

2347
02:22:53,610 --> 02:22:58,530
compassionate human. Without
compassion for misery or

2348
02:22:58,530 --> 02:23:03,060
suffering. Period. Okay, not
about people. No. Okay.

2349
02:23:04,770 --> 02:23:07,110
It seems it seems like maybe
that has.

2350
02:23:07,740 --> 02:23:10,680
And it says here it as part of
the definition confining wild

2351
02:23:10,680 --> 02:23:13,350
horses is inhuman, whatever you
do is inhumane. But anyway,

2352
02:23:13,350 --> 02:23:16,860
they've sued to stop the
slaughterhouse. And they have

2353
02:23:16,860 --> 02:23:19,980
all kinds of reasons why and
that meanwhile, these horses are

2354
02:23:19,980 --> 02:23:22,770
being shipped out to Mexico are
there they're just such a great

2355
02:23:22,770 --> 02:23:26,490
job down there. You can count on
that. And so the but it's, you

2356
02:23:26,490 --> 02:23:28,860
know, they have an injunction
and this whole thing is going

2357
02:23:28,860 --> 02:23:31,770
on. We have too many horses that
need to be eaten. And they're

2358
02:23:31,770 --> 02:23:33,720
running all over the place. You
have people starving in the

2359
02:23:33,720 --> 02:23:37,860
streets. We have homeless that
would love to have a horse

2360
02:23:37,860 --> 02:23:39,240
steak. But no,

2361
02:23:39,780 --> 02:23:43,140
we have people eating mac and
cheese. Yeah, people are going

2362
02:23:43,140 --> 02:23:47,700
69 cent mac and cheese at 39
cent. Mac and cheese dinners.

2363
02:23:50,100 --> 02:23:52,710
Anyway, that's just I did I just
thought that was an interesting

2364
02:23:52,710 --> 02:23:54,900
situation. I didn't realize
there was 70,000 of them there.

2365
02:23:54,900 --> 02:23:57,090
They're apparently just a
quarter of a million to a

2366
02:23:57,090 --> 02:24:03,120
million wild horses running
around. Wow. Well. Here's

2367
02:24:03,120 --> 02:24:05,040
another I got one more. Okay,

2368
02:24:05,070 --> 02:24:08,250
I have some other stuff that I
got.

2369
02:24:08,250 --> 02:24:11,400
Did they finally gave the Medal
of Honor to this one soldier.

2370
02:24:11,429 --> 02:24:16,349
Did you see that ceremony? Yeah,
that was creepy.

2371
02:24:17,370 --> 02:24:19,380
Well, it was creepy because they
didn't want to give the guy the

2372
02:24:19,380 --> 02:24:22,530
award. But they already gave it
to one of the Marines that was

2373
02:24:22,530 --> 02:24:23,130
involved with it

2374
02:24:23,130 --> 02:24:25,470
as they gave it to the guy who
then they took it back and they

2375
02:24:25,470 --> 02:24:28,200
arrested him and they accused
him of lying and as all this

2376
02:24:28,200 --> 02:24:32,280
crazy stuff going on this. This
whole thing is a debacle, this

2377
02:24:32,280 --> 02:24:36,240
medal of honor. So now they have
for the first time in like 200

2378
02:24:36,240 --> 02:24:39,570
years. They've given the Medal
of Honor to two guys from the

2379
02:24:39,570 --> 02:24:43,710
same battle. Yeah, right. Yeah.
Okay.

2380
02:24:43,800 --> 02:24:46,110
Well, they didn't want to give
it to this guy who was the the

2381
02:24:46,110 --> 02:24:50,160
captain I believe. And so play
part one of this and then the

2382
02:24:50,190 --> 02:24:53,220
what I thought was funny about
this, essentially, the rationale

2383
02:24:53,220 --> 02:24:56,340
that the army finally came out
with was the dog ate the

2384
02:24:56,340 --> 02:24:56,970
homework

2385
02:24:57,000 --> 02:25:00,240
because to surrender, so well
stops treating kind of long

2386
02:25:00,240 --> 02:25:04,680
enough to respond by lobbing a
grenade. And finally, after more

2387
02:25:04,680 --> 02:25:06,990
than an hour and a half of
fighting air support arrives.

2388
02:25:09,389 --> 02:25:13,589
A helmet cam worn by a crewman
in a medevac helicopter showed

2389
02:25:13,589 --> 02:25:17,969
Swenson kissing the sergeant's
head to reassure him. Westbrook

2390
02:25:17,969 --> 02:25:22,199
ultimately died, joining the
four Americans 10 Afghan troops

2391
02:25:22,199 --> 02:25:26,339
and an interpreter killed in the
ambush. Another man involved in

2392
02:25:26,339 --> 02:25:29,909
that fight. Marine Corporal
Dakota Meyer was awarded his

2393
02:25:29,909 --> 02:25:33,959
medal of honor in 2011. The
Pentagon is now investigating

2394
02:25:33,959 --> 02:25:37,439
allegations that Swensons
nomination was delayed because

2395
02:25:37,439 --> 02:25:41,309
he criticized superiors over the
handling of the battle. The

2396
02:25:41,309 --> 02:25:44,219
military says his paperwork was
lost.

2397
02:25:44,969 --> 02:25:49,139
You know, they literally deleted
this guy's name from the

2398
02:25:49,139 --> 02:25:53,999
database inside the Pentagon.
Yeah, like like took his name

2399
02:25:54,029 --> 02:25:54,629
out?

2400
02:25:56,370 --> 02:25:58,590
Well, it was one of the
congressman from Missouri up in

2401
02:25:58,590 --> 02:26:03,300
Washington state whose cladding
that apparently supposedly

2402
02:26:03,300 --> 02:26:06,930
helped. But play part two and
the there's a little rundown by

2403
02:26:06,930 --> 02:26:09,660
with this other guy that
discusses some of these issues.

2404
02:26:10,050 --> 02:26:11,580
To help fill in this story. I'm

2405
02:26:11,580 --> 02:26:14,700
joined now by David Nakamura of
The Washington Post. He's

2406
02:26:14,700 --> 02:26:18,330
interviewed Swenson many times.
And while this is a story of

2407
02:26:18,360 --> 02:26:22,440
uncommon heroism, is it also
fair to say that it was an

2408
02:26:22,440 --> 02:26:26,040
uncommon path to today's metal
ceremony? Absolutely. It's been

2409
02:26:26,040 --> 02:26:29,400
a long four years right for will
Swenson he has left the military

2410
02:26:29,400 --> 02:26:32,280
two years ago, and he went back
to his native Seattle where he's

2411
02:26:32,280 --> 02:26:34,800
from where he went to college.
And he has really kept a low

2412
02:26:34,800 --> 02:26:37,020
profile. In part, I think
because of the controversy

2413
02:26:37,020 --> 02:26:39,720
surrounding his award. There is
a lot of allegations that the

2414
02:26:39,750 --> 02:26:42,390
army was concerned about his
criticism concerned about what

2415
02:26:42,390 --> 02:26:45,360
kind of representation he would
give. He was on a public stage

2416
02:26:45,360 --> 02:26:49,020
like this. However, there's been
pressure from outside, both from

2417
02:26:49,110 --> 02:26:52,470
reports and in the media, but
also a US Congressman got

2418
02:26:52,470 --> 02:26:55,290
involved asking what happened to
this nomination. He deserves the

2419
02:26:55,290 --> 02:26:58,260
award. He's got it today. He
stood up there, like a good

2420
02:26:58,260 --> 02:27:00,600
soldier and accepted the award
and that was back in his

2421
02:27:00,600 --> 02:27:03,030
uniform. So it was a very
powerful moment. The President

2422
02:27:03,030 --> 02:27:06,270
touched on it lightly as he did
as he does it all medal

2423
02:27:06,270 --> 02:27:10,950
ceremonies, he told the story of
how this award came to be. It

2424
02:27:10,950 --> 02:27:14,940
took a long time for those men
to get air support when they

2425
02:27:14,940 --> 02:27:17,970
were pinned down by those
snipers. Absolutely our our

2426
02:27:17,970 --> 02:27:20,910
reporting show that it's about
took about 90 minutes probably

2427
02:27:20,910 --> 02:27:23,970
understand from eyewitnesses of
people involved in the ambush,

2428
02:27:24,060 --> 02:27:27,600
90 minutes of pure fighting.
There's were 11 or so us

2429
02:27:27,600 --> 02:27:30,870
trainers with Afghan National
Army troops and border police

2430
02:27:30,870 --> 02:27:34,470
who were allied with the US but
we're not completely under our

2431
02:27:34,470 --> 02:27:37,950
command. And so some of those
folks just ran off in the battle

2432
02:27:38,100 --> 02:27:41,820
the US soldiers got and Marine
Corps got separated from one

2433
02:27:41,820 --> 02:27:44,490
another, which was a part of the
problem. Their communication was

2434
02:27:44,490 --> 02:27:47,010
cut off at one point. And so
they were really expanded on the

2435
02:27:47,010 --> 02:27:49,380
battlefield for a long time. It
took two hours for wills Swenson

2436
02:27:49,380 --> 02:27:51,720
and his men to move back they
suffered casualties including

2437
02:27:51,870 --> 02:27:54,720
Kenneth Westbrook as the video
showed, and that was a problem

2438
02:27:54,720 --> 02:27:57,510
and they eventually were able to
regroup, go back out, and they

2439
02:27:57,510 --> 02:28:00,660
found the former three Marines
and a Navy corpsman who had been

2440
02:28:00,660 --> 02:28:02,250
killed unfortunately, what are
some

2441
02:28:03,960 --> 02:28:06,990
anyway so they go on and talk
about why did it take an hour

2442
02:28:06,990 --> 02:28:10,020
and a half and supposedly
somebody was reprimanded but

2443
02:28:10,020 --> 02:28:13,350
they won't say who fairly this
was under MIT crystals watch by

2444
02:28:13,350 --> 02:28:19,170
the way who had changed the
rules of engagement the rules of

2445
02:28:19,170 --> 02:28:22,020
engagement to being some weird

2446
02:28:22,080 --> 02:28:25,470
now here's the disgusting thing
about this as the the dead

2447
02:28:25,470 --> 02:28:30,750
soldiers were just you know no
no arriving ceremony no flag

2448
02:28:30,750 --> 02:28:34,140
draped coffin no salutes no oh
yeah no what happens but and

2449
02:28:34,140 --> 02:28:37,050
then you don't see it on the
news? No the President is not

2450
02:28:37,050 --> 02:28:42,090
there that left that's forbidden
it's opening we can't show the

2451
02:28:43,200 --> 02:28:47,280
dead people don't show the dead
children mr. president press

2452
02:28:47,280 --> 02:28:47,640
corps

2453
02:28:47,640 --> 02:28:51,360
shameful episode in the Army's
you know, typical beer some

2454
02:28:51,360 --> 02:28:56,130
bureaucrats got in the middle
and they had to you know, they

2455
02:28:56,130 --> 02:28:59,070
were gonna be embarrassed by
their by the guys that

2456
02:28:59,160 --> 02:29:01,140
apparently I don't know why they
did. There's still no

2457
02:29:01,140 --> 02:29:03,510
explanation for why in air
support.

2458
02:29:04,800 --> 02:29:07,410
I'm not sure why we're
discussing it other than I'm

2459
02:29:07,410 --> 02:29:08,760
just disgusted by

2460
02:29:08,939 --> 02:29:11,219
the way we're discussing it
because it's a good story.

2461
02:29:11,250 --> 02:29:14,010
It'd be Oh, no, that's what I
mean. But it's creepy. It is

2462
02:29:14,010 --> 02:29:17,190
creepy. Orly creep. How'd this
happen? I mean, the package I

2463
02:29:17,190 --> 02:29:22,290
had was I actually titled it
creepy Medal of Honor package.

2464
02:29:22,290 --> 02:29:24,390
Just want to hear it just a
little bit of this play the

2465
02:29:24,390 --> 02:29:25,560
whole thing repeat of

2466
02:29:25,560 --> 02:29:29,250
compassion and loyalty to a
brother in arms.

2467
02:29:29,490 --> 02:29:33,030
Westbrook dies a month later at
Walter Reed but Swenson stayed

2468
02:29:33,030 --> 02:29:35,910
in touch with his family who
were at the ceremony today.

2469
02:29:36,119 --> 02:29:39,899
I looked into a room that was
there to support me this guy

2470
02:29:39,900 --> 02:29:42,690
I have to say, it was kind of
what creeped me out the guy who

2471
02:29:42,690 --> 02:29:43,380
won the medal.

2472
02:29:43,560 --> 02:29:45,810
But I went there to support them
and I will continue to be there

2473
02:29:45,810 --> 02:29:47,790
to support them. My colleagues,

2474
02:29:48,810 --> 02:29:52,860
the families of the fallen,
listen to him as powerful

2475
02:29:52,860 --> 02:29:53,190
moment.

2476
02:29:53,700 --> 02:29:58,380
So was September 8 2009. US
forces got ambushed by 60

2477
02:29:58,380 --> 02:30:00,780
Taliban enroute to meet Villa
Two elders.

2478
02:30:00,960 --> 02:30:03,060
Maybe it was just creepy looking
at it. I'll stop it now.

2479
02:30:03,330 --> 02:30:06,660
Well, maybe it was creepy
because the guy's still irked.

2480
02:30:07,410 --> 02:30:11,190
Yeah, yeah. The way he just
become bitter. Yeah, the way he

2481
02:30:11,190 --> 02:30:12,240
was talking. And

2482
02:30:12,660 --> 02:30:15,750
he sounded like he was talking
like someone who had just was

2483
02:30:15,750 --> 02:30:19,170
about to blow. And he knew
better. Yeah. So he made it

2484
02:30:19,170 --> 02:30:23,940
clear that he was not a happy
camper. I have. So here's one

2485
02:30:23,940 --> 02:30:24,120
for

2486
02:30:24,120 --> 02:30:27,210
you. Here's one for you. But
you've done three in a row. Now

2487
02:30:27,240 --> 02:30:27,720
I'm doing

2488
02:30:27,750 --> 02:30:30,510
this will be three in a row. But
I just want to ask you this

2489
02:30:30,510 --> 02:30:35,010
question. This is an ask Adam
actually, this is the IHT

2490
02:30:35,010 --> 02:30:38,640
rebranded, I went I'm gonna ask
in advance, why would anyone in

2491
02:30:38,640 --> 02:30:41,640
their right mind do what just
happened?

2492
02:30:42,840 --> 02:30:45,930
And outdoors, the International
Herald Tribune incomes, the

2493
02:30:45,930 --> 02:30:51,750
International New York Times
after 126 year run, the IHT is

2494
02:30:51,750 --> 02:30:52,560
rebranded.

2495
02:30:54,690 --> 02:30:57,960
You're like you're the one of
the world's experts on brands.

2496
02:30:57,990 --> 02:31:01,350
Yes, I am. That's correct. I am
a brand expert, Nike would be

2497
02:31:01,350 --> 02:31:04,830
nowhere without me. In fact, I
said, Hey, just do it. And then

2498
02:31:04,830 --> 02:31:06,150
that became pretty famous.

2499
02:31:07,080 --> 02:31:11,400
So why would they do this? For
one thing when you're overseas?

2500
02:31:11,760 --> 02:31:13,650
I mean, the New York Times when
you subscribe to The New York

2501
02:31:13,650 --> 02:31:15,780
Times, I don't care where you
are. But if they I get, I used

2502
02:31:15,780 --> 02:31:17,820
to have it come in here now. And
they have it on Sundays. And

2503
02:31:17,820 --> 02:31:19,800
actually, I forgot to pay for
it. So they don't even send me

2504
02:31:19,800 --> 02:31:22,650
that anymore. But I'll sell it
to pay eventually. Because I do

2505
02:31:22,650 --> 02:31:27,120
like to do the online research
with it. Whatever the case, when

2506
02:31:27,120 --> 02:31:29,730
I get to New York Times, and I
open it and start reading it, I

2507
02:31:29,730 --> 02:31:33,510
know I'm reading a New York City
newspaper about what's going on,

2508
02:31:33,540 --> 02:31:37,020
mostly in New York. They got the
art museums, they got Broadway

2509
02:31:37,020 --> 02:31:39,060
plays, it kind of makes you
think you're kind of like maybe

2510
02:31:39,060 --> 02:31:41,280
a little bit in New York, it
feels a little cosmopolitan.

2511
02:31:41,280 --> 02:31:44,070
Yes, of course. Now, when you're
overseas, and you see the

2512
02:31:44,070 --> 02:31:47,340
International Herald Tribune,
it's an international paper

2513
02:31:47,340 --> 02:31:49,860
about everything all over the
place, even though

2514
02:31:49,890 --> 02:31:52,590
but it is written and published
by The New York Times

2515
02:31:52,590 --> 02:31:53,820
Corporation, correct. And

2516
02:31:53,820 --> 02:31:56,100
it was actually a joint venture
with them in the Washington Post

2517
02:31:56,100 --> 02:31:58,830
for a long time and the
Washington Post gave up. But so

2518
02:31:58,830 --> 02:32:01,920
what but it's still a brand that
has been around for over 100

2519
02:32:01,920 --> 02:32:05,310
years. Why would you change it
to the International New York

2520
02:32:05,310 --> 02:32:09,330
Times? It makes no sense. New
York is about New York what

2521
02:32:09,330 --> 02:32:12,330
would you put the name New York
on it the international times

2522
02:32:12,330 --> 02:32:16,230
would make sense. So I'm asking
you on a branding basis what

2523
02:32:16,260 --> 02:32:17,970
what is what's the thinking
here?

2524
02:32:19,800 --> 02:32:23,820
Sounds to me like we have a
pending sale or investment or

2525
02:32:23,820 --> 02:32:27,990
something else is happening that
is exterior to this and either a

2526
02:32:27,990 --> 02:32:30,630
board member had a great idea
that sounds like someone who has

2527
02:32:30,630 --> 02:32:35,340
no idea what they're doing is
doing something in fact, maybe

2528
02:32:35,370 --> 02:32:39,120
Eleanor Clift is running the New
York Times. Listen to this.

2529
02:32:39,150 --> 02:32:41,250
Well, this is one of the big
problems now you've got a race

2530
02:32:41,250 --> 02:32:43,470
to be first whether you're
tweeting or you're on the air or

2531
02:32:43,470 --> 02:32:46,830
you're writing a blog or what
are writing a story. You've got

2532
02:32:46,830 --> 02:32:50,730
so many demands as journalists
now on your l&r, you're at The

2533
02:32:50,730 --> 02:32:53,400
Daily Beast you're doing this do
you have somebody editing, every

2534
02:32:53,400 --> 02:32:55,860
tweet, every story, every word
that you owe?

2535
02:32:55,890 --> 02:33:00,480
Nobody edits the tweets as far
as I know. Nobody edits. No, no.

2536
02:33:00,840 --> 02:33:04,560
In fact, I say to myself every
day Eleanor think less tweet

2537
02:33:04,560 --> 02:33:04,950
more.

2538
02:33:04,980 --> 02:33:07,800
There you go. That's the slogan
ladies and gentlemen, think less

2539
02:33:07,800 --> 02:33:13,650
tweet more. It's this woman.
Clip of the Day it goes on

2540
02:33:13,650 --> 02:33:20,220
because I don't tweet enough.
Really scary. You trust yourself

2541
02:33:20,220 --> 02:33:24,480
and I was just talking about
masturbation. Don't do it.

2542
02:33:24,480 --> 02:33:27,780
I mean, I tweet fairly erect.
Just replace

2543
02:33:27,780 --> 02:33:33,030
tweet with this story is much
better for Eleanor. Oh, come on,

2544
02:33:33,030 --> 02:33:35,130
Elena. Oh, come on. You're stuck

2545
02:33:35,190 --> 02:33:38,670
writing a story. You've got so
many demands as journalists now

2546
02:33:38,910 --> 02:33:41,670
on your l&r. You're at The Daily
Beast, you're doing this. Do you

2547
02:33:41,670 --> 02:33:44,730
have somebody editing every
tweet, every story? Every word

2548
02:33:44,730 --> 02:33:45,420
that you owe?

2549
02:33:45,450 --> 02:33:51,510
Nobody edits the tweets, as far
as I know. No, no. In fact, I

2550
02:33:51,510 --> 02:33:54,780
say to myself every day, Eleanor
think less tweet more because I

2551
02:33:54,780 --> 02:33:59,700
don't tweet enough. Really
scary. Well, no, you have to

2552
02:33:59,700 --> 02:34:04,320
kind of trust yourself and put,
I don't do it. I mean, I tweet

2553
02:34:04,350 --> 02:34:09,240
fairly irregularly. But in
today's world, we are encouraged

2554
02:34:09,270 --> 02:34:13,620
to tweet to get our stories out
there or promote our colleagues.

2555
02:34:13,860 --> 02:34:18,120
And if we're analysts and
pundits, we should we should get

2556
02:34:18,120 --> 02:34:20,730
our thoughts out there. I've
never done anything or said

2557
02:34:20,730 --> 02:34:24,120
anything that's career ending
yet. We're all about two steps

2558
02:34:24,120 --> 02:34:25,710
away from Actually

2559
02:34:25,740 --> 02:34:28,830
Actually I think she has said
something career ending on the

2560
02:34:28,830 --> 02:34:33,180
Twitter constitutional. That was
her tweet.

2561
02:34:33,930 --> 02:34:43,350
So she said that nobody edits
her tweets that she knows up.

2562
02:34:43,530 --> 02:34:45,330
Does she know how this even
works?

2563
02:34:45,420 --> 02:34:49,950
Because she's she actually
writes down in longhand. And

2564
02:34:49,950 --> 02:34:55,080
then she goes and she counts
with a pen 123456 720 Good. And

2565
02:34:55,080 --> 02:34:57,480
she hands it off to someone they
go then and tweet.

2566
02:34:57,960 --> 02:35:00,690
That's sounds like it. Let's
take a look. Look at Eleanor

2567
02:35:00,690 --> 02:35:01,980
Cliff's Twitter

2568
02:35:03,270 --> 02:35:05,880
Thank you I had this is
something this is this is why

2569
02:35:05,880 --> 02:35:07,110
we're a great team John

2570
02:35:07,230 --> 02:35:11,760
man BC polls find Obamacare
gaining popularity since shut

2571
02:35:11,760 --> 02:35:16,980
down. Thank you How's Repubs for
doing better job selling the ACA

2572
02:35:16,980 --> 02:35:25,440
than the White House blasts from
the past New York Times digs

2573
02:35:25,440 --> 02:35:30,480
down into the GOP shutdown
strategy and finds Ed Meese

2574
02:35:30,600 --> 02:35:34,560
Reagan era hardline ag back in
vogue.

2575
02:35:36,240 --> 02:35:38,550
She's fantastic. Is this all
down one,

2576
02:35:38,970 --> 02:35:42,060
tweet number three, Someone
should tell the House

2577
02:35:42,060 --> 02:35:46,260
Republicans the definition of
insanity is doing the same thing

2578
02:35:46,290 --> 02:35:49,500
over and over and expecting a
different result.

2579
02:35:51,000 --> 02:35:54,030
Wow, that is that is just
stellar stuff.

2580
02:35:55,050 --> 02:36:00,150
So it goes on with these sorts
of lame it's not even good Obama

2581
02:36:00,150 --> 02:36:04,530
bots stuff is. Yeah. There's one
here is just out of the blue

2582
02:36:04,560 --> 02:36:07,170
nose. Jen. She doesn't read
tweets. She doesn't answer

2583
02:36:07,170 --> 02:36:09,450
anybody's to you know you're
supposed to do. She's not even

2584
02:36:09,480 --> 02:36:14,010
good at this. She's just out of
the blue says John Kerry poised

2585
02:36:14,010 --> 02:36:19,350
to make history. Oh, doing what?
It just all it says there's no

2586
02:36:19,350 --> 02:36:22,440
reference. There's no link.
Alright, let

2587
02:36:22,440 --> 02:36:26,790
me Let's get off Eleanor, so to
speak, please. But you should

2588
02:36:26,790 --> 02:36:30,420
follow her just to know know
yourself. No, no, no, no, no.

2589
02:36:30,420 --> 02:36:33,210
Okay, a couple of stories here.
I just wanted to want to win by

2590
02:36:33,509 --> 02:36:35,489
200 followers. That's how bad it
is.

2591
02:36:35,670 --> 02:36:41,160
One. And there was I had this on
the show notes. I think maybe

2592
02:36:41,160 --> 02:36:44,910
for a week now. The workers who
are demolishing the Sandy Hook

2593
02:36:44,910 --> 02:36:48,420
Elementary School at a cost of
$50 million to build a new

2594
02:36:48,420 --> 02:36:52,650
school on the same site are
required to sign confidentiality

2595
02:36:52,650 --> 02:37:02,190
agreements. Why? To protect the
families? Of course. I know.

2596
02:37:03,510 --> 02:37:07,830
It's like it. Like this couldn't
get any more annoying this whole

2597
02:37:07,920 --> 02:37:13,500
ordeal to they're not allowed to
talk about what they find inside

2598
02:37:13,500 --> 02:37:15,090
when they're demolishing the
place.

2599
02:37:18,060 --> 02:37:20,640
You mean like the microphones
and cameras in the walls?

2600
02:37:22,470 --> 02:37:26,340
The confidential agreements are
forbid public discussion of the

2601
02:37:26,340 --> 02:37:29,160
site photographs or disclosure
of any information about the

2602
02:37:29,160 --> 02:37:33,330
building, where the so called
Sandy Hook shooting took place.

2603
02:37:34,530 --> 02:37:39,060
Allegedly, because we haven't
seen anything. No. I mean, it's

2604
02:37:39,060 --> 02:37:45,060
right there in the with the bin
Laden pictures. And we haven't

2605
02:37:45,060 --> 02:37:48,450
seen that crazy medical examiner
around either on what happened

2606
02:37:48,450 --> 02:37:49,680
in that guy. Remember the crazy
guy,

2607
02:37:49,800 --> 02:37:52,290
he's got a movie deal? must

2608
02:37:53,760 --> 02:37:57,180
then this is kind of a red book,
although we've I think we've

2609
02:37:57,420 --> 02:38:00,120
checked this off several times.
But now the headline, by the

2610
02:38:00,120 --> 02:38:07,500
way. IBM's Watson wants to fix
America's doctor shortage. As it

2611
02:38:07,500 --> 02:38:10,590
turns out, and this this, by the
way is this is an old story

2612
02:38:10,590 --> 02:38:12,990
we've done enough, no, this is a
little different. It's a little

2613
02:38:12,990 --> 02:38:17,220
different. This is because this
kind of ties into the Affordable

2614
02:38:17,220 --> 02:38:22,110
Care Act. Now, as you know, and
I know this many, many doctors

2615
02:38:22,110 --> 02:38:25,980
who are just being fired general
pack practitioners, there's no

2616
02:38:25,980 --> 02:38:29,430
use for them. Everything's going
to be done by your health care

2617
02:38:29,430 --> 02:38:34,260
provider. We've tracked this a
long time here on the show. And

2618
02:38:34,260 --> 02:38:37,530
in fact, you will what you
really get as registered nurses

2619
02:38:37,710 --> 02:38:40,830
and other administrative
personnel who are going to put

2620
02:38:40,830 --> 02:38:45,570
bandages on you and subscribe,
prescribe certain medication,

2621
02:38:45,720 --> 02:38:48,990
have one doc who just signs off
on stuff, it's all going into

2622
02:38:48,990 --> 02:38:52,110
this, the general practitioners
office is going into this kind

2623
02:38:52,110 --> 02:38:56,040
of automated mode, the only real
money to be made is with

2624
02:38:56,040 --> 02:38:59,610
specialists. So anyone who's a
general practitioner, you just

2625
02:38:59,610 --> 02:39:04,980
kind of out the hospitals are
firing these guys and gals. This

2626
02:39:04,980 --> 02:39:08,760
story says that there should
there will be as many as 45,000

2627
02:39:08,790 --> 02:39:14,880
primary care doctor shortage by
2020. But the idea is to have

2628
02:39:14,910 --> 02:39:23,970
IBM's Watson, do your diagnosis.
This is a little new. And

2629
02:39:23,970 --> 02:39:27,000
they're and they're actually
talking about a trial phase that

2630
02:39:27,000 --> 02:39:31,140
they've set up now. Where you go
in you answer questions on the

2631
02:39:31,140 --> 02:39:33,330
computer, which of course you
can do from the comfort of your

2632
02:39:33,330 --> 02:39:37,350
own home, and then Watson will
just prescribe stuff for you. So

2633
02:39:37,350 --> 02:39:43,050
removing people altogether from
the process. This is a little

2634
02:39:43,050 --> 02:39:44,970
new. So instead of

2635
02:39:45,000 --> 02:39:49,170
like the guys just sign off on
the marijuana is a doctor you

2636
02:39:49,170 --> 02:39:51,480
know, you go to these
conventions in California, the

2637
02:39:51,480 --> 02:39:55,170
marijuana pot thing or whatever
and you go to a bunch of your

2638
02:39:55,470 --> 02:39:56,010
doctor

2639
02:39:56,040 --> 02:39:59,970
your diagnosis for for you. It's
a freemium or what

2640
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:03,000
Are you having what's what's the
deal? So I'm having trouble

2641
02:40:03,000 --> 02:40:06,840
sleeping? For sure. Yeah, I got
a sore throat up. Here you go,

2642
02:40:07,410 --> 02:40:09,630
Oh, I got these horrible
headaches that won't go away. I

2643
02:40:09,630 --> 02:40:15,720
bet you Exactly, exactly. Okay,
well, that's a nice depressing

2644
02:40:15,720 --> 02:40:16,440
piece of news.

2645
02:40:16,920 --> 02:40:21,600
No, well, that's. And then there
was this big article, which to

2646
02:40:21,600 --> 02:40:25,800
me was new in Fast Company,
which I think the the article,

2647
02:40:26,340 --> 02:40:29,520
or the interview was done a
while ago, because this is about

2648
02:40:29,520 --> 02:40:33,150
23. And me. And I've been
following this company. Yeah,

2649
02:40:33,150 --> 02:40:35,100
this is one of your pet peeves.
Yeah, it is. This

2650
02:40:35,100 --> 02:40:39,120
is the it's the it's just math,
everyone's DNA is going to save

2651
02:40:39,120 --> 02:40:42,150
your life. Now this, of course,
is Sergey Brin, his wife, who I

2652
02:40:42,150 --> 02:40:44,550
believe is now ex wife, aren't
they getting a divorce where

2653
02:40:44,550 --> 02:40:45,090
they're separate,

2654
02:40:45,510 --> 02:40:48,690
funded the younger woman. So
this

2655
02:40:48,990 --> 02:40:53,370
story by Elizabeth Murphy, who
took her adopted six year old

2656
02:40:53,370 --> 02:40:57,090
daughter, and made her do the
DNA test.

2657
02:40:59,520 --> 02:41:02,610
And then she found that she was
the spawn of Satan.

2658
02:41:03,570 --> 02:41:06,660
Well, it's, it's kind of crazy
when you're reading through

2659
02:41:06,660 --> 02:41:13,500
this. So she talks about Sergey,
and how Sergey has a 54% chance

2660
02:41:13,500 --> 02:41:19,500
of Parkinson's based upon her
$99 test. And so you know, so

2661
02:41:19,500 --> 02:41:23,670
he's drinking coffee and
exercising in between meetings.

2662
02:41:26,790 --> 02:41:32,430
Wow. Really. And but really the
the idea, because now I

2663
02:41:32,430 --> 02:41:35,340
understand what this company is
about, it's not about really

2664
02:41:35,340 --> 02:41:37,140
helping you. This is about
scaring

2665
02:41:37,140 --> 02:41:42,900
that crap idea. Well, there's
that 7580 90% chance maybe it

2666
02:41:42,900 --> 02:41:44,910
would be something you're trying
to go for the 10. But it's a

2667
02:41:44,970 --> 02:41:46,320
5050. Toss up?

2668
02:41:46,440 --> 02:41:48,480
Well, I've been I've been
reading up on a coin. I've been

2669
02:41:48,480 --> 02:41:50,640
reading a lot of medical

2670
02:41:50,640 --> 02:41:53,610
way. Just that to keep
interrupting you, which I'm

2671
02:41:53,610 --> 02:41:58,170
doing now. If you look up, it's
just math. It's like a meme.

2672
02:41:58,650 --> 02:42:01,500
It's just math. It's about
Social Security. It's just math

2673
02:42:01,500 --> 02:42:04,650
is math. Yeah. It's just math,
just math, just math.

2674
02:42:04,740 --> 02:42:08,460
It's just math. Well, the human
genome is not just math, I hate

2675
02:42:08,460 --> 02:42:11,820
to tell you, because this thing,
when did we decode this and 99,

2676
02:42:11,910 --> 02:42:12,810
the human genome,

2677
02:42:12,990 --> 02:42:18,420
early recent, we still know how
it completely worked like 1516

2678
02:42:18,450 --> 02:42:23,490
years ago. And what this is a
parlor trick, according to many

2679
02:42:23,490 --> 02:42:26,700
people who are familiar with
with this guy know, if you want

2680
02:42:26,700 --> 02:42:29,670
to know some parlor tricks about
yourself, that's great. But what

2681
02:42:29,670 --> 02:42:32,910
they're really doing as I read
this article, it's like Twitter,

2682
02:42:33,570 --> 02:42:37,800
where they're taking your DNA
information, they want to have a

2683
02:42:37,800 --> 02:42:44,040
lot of it, like 20 or 30 million
samples of DNA. And then they're

2684
02:42:44,040 --> 02:42:48,690
going to start to say, Oh, now
we can do big data. Right? This

2685
02:42:48,690 --> 02:42:52,230
is this is all throughout this
whole article, big data. And

2686
02:42:52,230 --> 02:42:54,990
then we can figure out what
really causes cancer.

2687
02:42:56,790 --> 02:42:59,190
And give us some money. Yeah,
and this big

2688
02:42:59,190 --> 02:43:03,210
data thing I've got to tell you,
the more I hear it, the more I

2689
02:43:03,210 --> 02:43:04,740
see. Yes, I'm

2690
02:43:04,740 --> 02:43:06,420
100%. with you on this one,

2691
02:43:06,450 --> 02:43:09,090
you're well, you're the one that
kind of alerted it to me. And it

2692
02:43:09,090 --> 02:43:13,800
has gotten to the point now,
where I find it a sport to see

2693
02:43:13,800 --> 02:43:20,130
what Amazon is recommending to
me. It is really interesting.

2694
02:43:20,130 --> 02:43:24,360
They have no clue. They really
do not know. I mean, yeah, they

2695
02:43:24,390 --> 02:43:28,110
they keep trying to get me to
buy the diesel generator, which

2696
02:43:28,110 --> 02:43:30,180
I have, which I've looked at
once and which I won't buy

2697
02:43:30,180 --> 02:43:32,100
because they're all made in
China, even though they say

2698
02:43:32,100 --> 02:43:35,880
American power horse or whatever
on it. That's the only thing

2699
02:43:35,880 --> 02:43:38,970
they know how to do. They can do
that. They send you the email,

2700
02:43:38,970 --> 02:43:41,820
like oh, you looked at this,
look at it again. And that

2701
02:43:41,820 --> 02:43:42,750
sometimes works.

2702
02:43:42,929 --> 02:43:47,969
My recommendation is if you can
somehow get on somebody else's

2703
02:43:47,969 --> 02:43:51,659
computer and go to Amazon and
hope that it auto loads with

2704
02:43:51,659 --> 02:43:55,649
their account, which it tends to
do start looking at weird crap.

2705
02:43:55,889 --> 02:44:00,299
Plastic dildos. Look up all
these crazy things that are just

2706
02:44:00,299 --> 02:44:03,539
nuts. And then from then on,
every time they go anywhere,

2707
02:44:03,539 --> 02:44:06,899
they're gonna get these ads. No,
no, it's everywhere. By the way,

2708
02:44:06,899 --> 02:44:07,079
there's

2709
02:44:07,230 --> 02:44:10,170
just worse because you get the
dildo ads when you're on just

2710
02:44:10,170 --> 02:44:11,580
any old site that has like,
Yeah,

2711
02:44:12,030 --> 02:44:13,770
I'm saying that's kind

2712
02:44:13,770 --> 02:44:16,050
of cool. Yeah, dildo ads.

2713
02:44:17,100 --> 02:44:21,210
Yeah, you'd be so you go to some
regular, some Reddit site and a

2714
02:44:21,210 --> 02:44:25,170
dildo as will start popping up.
While you're there is a great

2715
02:44:25,170 --> 02:44:26,340
gag to play on someone.

2716
02:44:27,270 --> 02:44:32,370
I guess the only thing I want to
say is that I'm kind of on board

2717
02:44:32,370 --> 02:44:36,480
with this is just a parlor
trick. And I actually I was

2718
02:44:36,480 --> 02:44:39,300
talking to the Voodoo doctor
about this yesterday. You know,

2719
02:44:39,300 --> 02:44:44,700
the applied kinesiology or guy
acupuncture guy. Yeah, I see him

2720
02:44:44,700 --> 02:44:49,530
every six weeks and I'm I'm I'm
feeling good. I'm not sick in

2721
02:44:49,530 --> 02:44:49,950
bed.

2722
02:44:51,210 --> 02:44:53,850
But he says, You have caught
what she has.

2723
02:44:53,939 --> 02:44:58,799
A lot of people come to him with
their 23 and me printouts and he

2724
02:44:58,799 --> 02:45:04,589
says throw it out. And he said,
Your DNA is not your destiny is

2725
02:45:04,709 --> 02:45:07,829
is the quote, he says, you know,
all you're going to do is if if

2726
02:45:07,829 --> 02:45:10,529
someone tells you, you have this
gene and you actually have this

2727
02:45:10,529 --> 02:45:13,199
gene, and you're thinking about
this gene, you're going to

2728
02:45:13,199 --> 02:45:15,419
activate it. This is,

2729
02:45:15,990 --> 02:45:21,660
well, I don't want to get on
board with that. It's possible

2730
02:45:22,110 --> 02:45:24,600
that if you're preoccupied I
mean, this is the old trick with

2731
02:45:24,600 --> 02:45:28,830
motorcycle riding. When you're
driving around on a cycle it

2732
02:45:28,830 --> 02:45:31,680
same thing with cars, but to a
lesser extent, although they did

2733
02:45:31,710 --> 02:45:34,350
car when you were the race
driver there and you're racing

2734
02:45:34,350 --> 02:45:38,160
around, they tell you to do
similar things, is if you look

2735
02:45:38,220 --> 02:45:41,550
if you're on a you're coming
down a dirt road and a bike, and

2736
02:45:41,550 --> 02:45:45,330
you're genuine worried about
this huge boulder. That is right

2737
02:45:45,330 --> 02:45:48,180
there. If you look at the
boulder,

2738
02:45:48,210 --> 02:45:52,710
you will crash into it. Yeah,
you will crash into it. Exactly.

2739
02:45:52,740 --> 02:45:53,010
Look

2740
02:45:53,550 --> 02:45:55,950
to the side of the either side
of the boulder and you

2741
02:45:55,950 --> 02:45:58,590
concentrate on that spot, you
will zoom past the boulder.

2742
02:45:58,590 --> 02:46:02,340
It's, it's and it always
happens. So when you're focused

2743
02:46:02,340 --> 02:46:05,250
on something in this case,
you're preoccupied with your

2744
02:46:05,250 --> 02:46:09,600
genetic mishap. It may be just
like the boulder you may

2745
02:46:09,720 --> 02:46:12,210
actually it may be true. Maybe
the guys riding you could

2746
02:46:12,330 --> 02:46:14,820
possibly at least you're
thinking about it too much.

2747
02:46:15,090 --> 02:46:19,590
Yeah. 55 So I will agree based
on my folder, and

2748
02:46:19,920 --> 02:46:23,070
well then, you know, like the
54% and all that stuff. It's

2749
02:46:23,070 --> 02:46:23,970
just insane.

2750
02:46:25,320 --> 02:46:29,160
Yeah, we should put in the Red
Book. Sergey will get

2751
02:46:29,640 --> 02:46:34,620
Parkinson's just put it right
in. Yeah. Put it in. Good to go.

2752
02:46:35,640 --> 02:46:38,520
All right. I'm gonna say this
other stuff. I got some common

2753
02:46:38,520 --> 02:46:41,370
core stuff. We'll save that for
for Sunday. I'm going to have

2754
02:46:41,550 --> 02:46:46,980
quite a Oh, you also want to do
the we'll do the podcast patent

2755
02:46:46,980 --> 02:46:48,060
thing we'll do that Sunday.

2756
02:46:48,570 --> 02:46:52,710
All right, the podcast, Pat.
Well, yeah, it's been fun. Yeah,

2757
02:46:52,710 --> 02:46:55,020
cuz I wanted that's what I sent
you a note about? Because I want

2758
02:46:55,020 --> 02:46:59,520
you to because you're the expert
on podcasting and patents. I'm

2759
02:46:59,520 --> 02:47:00,690
pretty good on patents too.

2760
02:47:01,980 --> 02:47:05,640
I want to hear about this
podcast patent situation.

2761
02:47:05,670 --> 02:47:09,960
Yeah. Well, I pretty much I can
just say this that my name is

2762
02:47:09,960 --> 02:47:13,860
not mentioned anywhere in any of
the documentation. Nor is Dave

2763
02:47:13,860 --> 02:47:18,450
Winer. This is this, this is the
idiocy of not only the patent

2764
02:47:18,450 --> 02:47:24,810
system, but of people who feel
they need to defend something,

2765
02:47:25,350 --> 02:47:29,700
which really does no one any
good. You know, other than just

2766
02:47:29,700 --> 02:47:33,300
like, Yeah, we got to do another
lawsuit and other people paid

2767
02:47:33,300 --> 02:47:37,080
for it. It's to me the whole
thing is a waste of energy. But

2768
02:47:37,080 --> 02:47:39,840
I do want to get into it and
explain it. So I'll be happy to

2769
02:47:39,840 --> 02:47:40,800
do that on Sunday.

2770
02:47:42,720 --> 02:47:45,870
A winner Yeah,

2771
02:47:45,930 --> 02:47:50,550
a winner for sure. All right.
What did I have your head

2772
02:47:52,410 --> 02:47:57,240
and done? Yeah, I think

2773
02:47:57,240 --> 02:47:59,820
we're done too. I have like the
I want maybe this ISS thing will

2774
02:47:59,820 --> 02:48:03,090
just be nice. Just International
Space Station quick. 20 seconds

2775
02:48:03,090 --> 02:48:03,360
World

2776
02:48:03,360 --> 02:48:06,420
Pictures from the International
Space Station, the astronauts

2777
02:48:06,420 --> 02:48:10,650
saw a strange and unexpected
view out there windows. American

2778
02:48:10,650 --> 02:48:13,830
astronaut Mike Hopkins tweeted,
saw something launching into

2779
02:48:13,830 --> 02:48:16,950
space today. Not sure what it
was, but the cloud had left

2780
02:48:16,950 --> 02:48:20,160
behind was pretty amazing. And
boy, is he right? Turns out it

2781
02:48:20,160 --> 02:48:23,520
was a plume from a Russian
military missile tests. No.

2782
02:48:23,520 --> 02:48:23,820
Yeah,

2783
02:48:23,910 --> 02:48:30,900
space wars. But nothing to see
here. Good me. All right. So

2784
02:48:30,900 --> 02:48:33,360
I've got a lot of patching to do
here. Somebody interesting.

2785
02:48:34,020 --> 02:48:35,370
It's just gonna take you a few
minutes.

2786
02:48:38,040 --> 02:48:42,660
Okay. All right, everybody. Make
sure you go by that to ITM

2787
02:48:42,660 --> 02:48:52,620
box.com. Take a look at that.
And John, yes. Thank you for

2788
02:48:52,620 --> 02:48:53,340
your courage.

2789
02:48:53,760 --> 02:48:55,440
Thank you for your courage,
Adam.

2790
02:48:56,730 --> 02:48:59,670
More of this type of analysis
for you. And I think some new

2791
02:48:59,670 --> 02:49:03,510
things will creep onto the radar
now that the Big Show is over,

2792
02:49:03,630 --> 02:49:07,650
as predicted everybody back to
work. Yeah, finally. Well, it

2793
02:49:07,650 --> 02:49:12,150
was time we knew what happened.
And thank you all for the good

2794
02:49:12,150 --> 02:49:16,890
karma for Mr. Mickey's well
being. That's appreciated.

2795
02:49:18,000 --> 02:49:22,020
Coming to you from the sickbay
here at the Travis heights

2796
02:49:22,020 --> 02:49:25,440
hideouts in Austin Tay Haas in
the morning. I'm Adam curry.

2797
02:49:26,280 --> 02:49:30,720
And from the very hot northern
Silicon Valley, where if you

2798
02:49:30,720 --> 02:49:33,060
didn't take your garbage out by
now, you have to wait for a

2799
02:49:33,060 --> 02:49:34,380
week. I'm John C. Dvorak.

2800
02:49:34,410 --> 02:49:37,530
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