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I hit it. Adam curry, John C.

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Dvorak. Number 14 2013 Time for
you to get my nation media

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assassination episode 565. This
is no agenda fishing for

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herring. Here at the Travis
heights hot out and FEMA Region

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six. Austin teh house in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where it's finally gotten a

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little bit cold lows expected to
hit the 60s. I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Wow, John, how about a
precipitation report?

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I just noticed that the weather
around the country is pretty

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bad. But so I thought I'd make
people feel better.

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It's chilly here too. I mean,
all of a sudden, we got a cold

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front. It's just you know, it's
like, oh, 40s During the day,

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and it froze two days ago.

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Nice night. Yeah.

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It is nice.

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Not the case out here. In fact,
this is the first time said

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where there's 1890. There was a
problem. And but 95 I think

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there's one where we haven't had
any rain at all, which we

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usually have a little bit by
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You know, I'm thinking I was
going to hold off on this. But

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maybe since you started with
the, with the historical stuff,

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maybe I should just just hit you
with it straight on. Because I

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think unless you already know
about it, I personally am very,

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very upset about this kid. Can

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I make a quick guess? Sure.
You've become a warmest?

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No. In fact, we had dinner with
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who, who ran, who has run
several restaurants, but they

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ran Jeffries, which is a famous
Austin staple. And they sold it

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like two years ago, but they
still own a piece. And so they

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invited us to dinner there. And
and these know, they're like in

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their late 60s. At a certain
point, I'm just like, you know,

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we're going towards global
cooling, don't you? And it was

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cool, because they were like,
you know, that doesn't sound too

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crazy. Because, you know, if you
walk eastward long enough,

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eventually you're heading west.
Oh my Wow, that's so deep. It

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makes so much sense. But no,
that's not it. John. From

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Hartman, what thumb Hartman has
stolen your idea. And he has

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usurped you. And I'm upset. I'm
upset because that he stolen the

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idea. I'm upset because, you
know, we've been talking about

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your idea for I don't know, five
years. And he came out with it

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with the cycle book.

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Oh, no, that's his book. It
says, yeah, it's missing too

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much information. I saw that
that's a that's a

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Can I listen, can we listen to a
little clip of him with with all

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the bragging about his cycle? Is
his crash book, his crash book,

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here he is with the with Amy
Goodman on democracy sometimes

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title is the crash of 2016. Why
2016?

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Well, we're actually in this
crash. And it really started to

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that.

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I just want to hear your
commentary because you're

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pissed. I know you're pissed
that his book is out six, when

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the housing market started
falling apart, just like in 1927

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when the housing market fell
apart, and that crash lasted you

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see you also when your book
comes out, John, you've got to

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talk like that, too. When are
they gonna have the passion, you

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got to have that kind of like
that snooty kind of talking with

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your with your your teeth
clenched thing quite some time

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as Hoover did nothing. Now we
have a situation where it's not

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just do nothing. Obama was
successful in the first few

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months of his administration and
putting enough of a bandaid on

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it that they're holding this
back with baling wire and bubble

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gum.

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But Bush had hoped he saw that

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the Bush administration had
hoped this is actually what he

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says here is something
interesting, which I want to ask

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you about. It sounds kind of
like a like it could be possible

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that they could wait until
November of 2008. So it'd be

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after the election. So it
wouldn't hurt the Republican

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candidates.

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He was unsuccessful. The Obama
administration is now because

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they're not doing the real
structural change necessary.

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They're hoping they can push it
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chose that date. There's an
enormous amount of effort in our

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government and in the Fed to try
to hold us off. Does that

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make sense, John, that I mean,
if you're a cycle guy, and

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there's plenty of them in the
government, and and I would

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think I believe Bernanke is one
of them. You would have expected

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the whole thing to collapse in
2009. Anyway, so there was no

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way I mean, it was pushing
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from truth that the early 2000s
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to form very early on Yeah, and
I think that it caught it I

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think the whole thing collapsed
on it caught him off guard that

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what what specifically he
doesn't say this, but what

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specifically were they doing to
kick the can down the road? They

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were nothing there. You can't
cite me? He's just making this

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up because he hates bush.

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Well, but I have to say he's out
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previous, you know, he cites the
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without saying or 40 years, but
I know the dates by now I've

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heard you use them so often. But
the thing that that I, that is

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wrong, is that and I don't think
I have this clip, but Amy

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Goodman says, so what can we do
to avoid it? And he has all

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these answers. And I'm like, no,
no, no, no, no, it's

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understanding professor in the
in the Nobel laureate, Professor

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Dvorak, the cycle comes just
like the sun rises and sets you

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can't stop it. Right? It's
there's no stopping.

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No, there's things you can do.
There's BandAids, like

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quantitative easing, easing,
which pushes, which does push it

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off, but that could eventually
the economy still falls apart.

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And ya know, they think that you
can do anything about this. I

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mean, for one thing, here's what
gets me first you, you, you, you

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subscribe to this. This is what
is the problem with this book is

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if you subscribe to the cycle
theory at all, you subscribe to

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the cycle theory, right? And
theory is, as you said, it's

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like the sun coming up and down.
It's nothing new. What can we do

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to prevent the sun to guide just
like being a native in Africa?

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What are we gonna do to stop the
sun? Don't look close your eyes.

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You know, that kind of thing.

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So what is nice though, what I
liked it, you know, to your

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benefit. Is that halfway through
the interview, then Tom Hartman

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goes completely insane about
global warming. And you've got

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You've got to hear this. Oh,
it's this money. This is

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so insane what he's about to say
here. I mean, I've heard some

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crazy things. But this one
really, really takes the king

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what about

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the issue of climate change that
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video about how this fits into
the coming crash of two

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of 2006. So the by the way,
climate change is a part of the

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coming crash. Apparently, this
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a cycle. And somehow climate
change gets involved.

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Exactly. It's a part of it. It's
another stressor. It's a

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stressor, John, it's just
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there it's

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a very, very significant
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did last hours he's promoting
this video which you have to

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watch which is over last
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to talk about that this is just
the video we just added to your

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last hour we're gonna hug you're
maxed out you're glad that we

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point out it's Tom within the
thing that the IPCC is not

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talking about right now. And
scientists are people are

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hysterical about it. Yes.
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us there are very concerned
about is that there are

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trillions of tonnes of methane
hydrate, nothing frozen up in

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ice in the Arctic and around
continental shelves. Okay, now

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you gotta listen to this. So
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scientists that IPC is not
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know, I'm sure they don't want
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scientists all

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they want to do. That's why it
makes no sense. Problem is they

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can't dig there's like, here's
the here's what he won't talk

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about. Wait, you gotta hear it.
Wait, don't? Well, yeah, you're

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gonna play it for the audience.
I've already heard this, by the

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way, this clip. Okay, I just
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surprised me because I've
watched this whole thing. Oh,

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I'm so

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disappointed. Well, I'm sure the
audience missed this find

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Democracy Now interview. I'm
sure they all missed it. And so

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there's trillions of cubic
tonnes of of methane just

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waiting to erupt from underneath
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melts, then there will be a
sudden global warming is sudden,

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like, all of a sudden, we're
gonna be burning out when you

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look at the five past
extinctions in the planet earth.

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Oh, John. He has now studied the
five past extinctions. I guess

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he has a DVD or something he
reviewed every single one was

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triggered by one of these
methane releases know what, what

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happened? What happened to like,
asteroids? I never heard every

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single one of the five I can't
even Can you name five previous

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back, you have to go back
sanctions. Now, please, to every

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single one of them was triggered
by one of these methane

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releases. Okay.

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Now he's just making it up as
you can now he's like acting

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like a 12 year old. Just
throwing stuff out there making

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This is where it gets funny.
That is the worst case scenario.

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We're hopeful that we can. How
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that? Because, of course, the
Greenpeace, the Arctic 30 The 28

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Greenpeace activists and the two
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shipped across Russia jailed.
They were protesting Russia

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engaging in Arctic drilling.
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forgot to mention the Arctic 30
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protesting drilling. Yeah.
Protesting Russian drilling.

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Yeah, maybe but not American
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edge of doing that same thing in
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NASA right now has an experiment
called curve Car. John, have you

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heard of NASA's CAR, CAR
experiment CAR, CAR carbon

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Arctic reservoir vulnerability
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reservoir vulnerability
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acronym called car. In our
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one of the head research on
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he trying to win? And he's
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Gore and make money on a

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movie. Not only that, he
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just be sitting there just like
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there's over there quite shows
I've got Glenn Miller's brother

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doing this a trillion tonnes of
methane in the Arctic. All

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right. Now here it comes. Here
is the kicker as we end this

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clip, how are these trillions of
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let free? The answer may
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addition, maybe as much as two
and two and change, two and

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change in the Arctic worldwide,
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trillion tonnes to trigger an
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as one to 2 trillion tonnes
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away with the ice sheet, and
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rather shallow, frankly. And
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through there that are stirring
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playing with fire.

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Blender.

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Guys, unbelievable. And he
should have stuck with the

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crash. 2016 he had me there. But
then he took me down this path.

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And as weird

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these guys are like, so they're
kind of brain damaged. Yeah,

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they can't they seem to be on
the right track. Yeah. And then

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they just go off the track. And
to some, you know, these, these

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preconceived? Are these, these
legis created little worlds that

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just boggle their own? I mean, I
think it's short. And again,

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I've talked about this before. I
think a lot of these people have

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their brains are short circuited
by contradictory information.

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Oh, in a cycle be stopped. It's
a contradictory thought. Yeah,

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it makes him go numb. We had
dinner. Was it? What is today's

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Thursday? So we had dinner on
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bought friends of ours, the ones
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Republicans. So now this is the
one that you always are

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interested in.

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I'm interested in all of them.
But this vicariously through

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dinner after dinner.

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So Mickey found this new place,
which is kind of like a big

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dance hall. But it was
interesting and that the food

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was was actually quite nice. But
I discovered something new. And

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I discovered that if you go all
in on the Obama bot about

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Hillary, it makes them very
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here's how I did it. Okay,
totally. So of course, politics

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came up. And so who do you
think, you know, you're going to

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run against Hillary and I
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Republicans and like, they got
no buddies. There's nobody who

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can run against who can beat
Hillary? No, no, no. I mean,

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from the Democratic Party, the
Democratic Party, typically, who

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gave throw Biden in there, he's
branded, no one cares, just

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anyone who will just be easy.
And he got really like, no, no,

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no, I think we know we, I said
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run our empire. And this is the
this is, this is what throws

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them off. You've got to throw
the Empire word in there. But if

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you say, you cannot argue
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qualified to run our empire. And
it got well, maybe we should

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bring in one of the Castro
brothers. What, what accounting

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of the Castro brothers or the
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the Castro brothers from Cuba?
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have one of the Castro brothers
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San Antonio.

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And so these are different
candidates for Castro's Yeah.

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this guy is kind of on the I
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donor to the to the party and
more involved than he lets on

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electron to me at least. I think
that they're probably going to

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and it would be great to get a
Latino Texan on the ticket with

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Hillary would be very
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That's an interesting ploy. The
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problem with this guy apparently
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Like oh my god, well, you can
take some Spanish lessons or

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start learning Yeah, but I
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okay, that's interesting. But
that's an aside. Back to climate

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change for a minute. Okay.

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Well, I have the one climate
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much as I could. The guy in
which they made a big deal. They

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played this guy's entire five
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you know, because they had
agreed to have thumb on on Yeah,

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this is the guy in the
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on a hunger strike until people
start to cough up Green Climate

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Fund might give you start to
contribute or do something now

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that I'd never heard of the
Green Climate Fund.

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He's he's in the fellow. He's
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days a

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typhoon survivor. And he was
talking to, I guess they brought

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him to some I couldn't tell. But
they brought him to some other

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country. And he was testifying
about the typhoon. And this is

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kind of what how it went.

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We've seen Lee he refused to
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allow me I wish to speak on a
more personal note supertyphoon

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high and perhaps unknown to many
here, made landfall in my own

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family's hometown, in the
devastation. This time

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staggering. These last two days,
there are moments when I feel

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that I should rally behind
climate advocates who peacefully

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confront those historical
responsible for the current

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state of our climate. The
selfless people who fight coal,

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expose themselves to freezing
temperatures, or black oil

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pipelines. In fact, we are
seeing increasing frustration,

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and thus more increased civil
disobedience. The next two

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weeks, these people and many
around the world to serve as our

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conscience will again remind us
of this enormous responsibility

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to the youth here who constantly
remind us that their future is

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in peril, the climate heroes who
risked their life reputation

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personal liberties, to stop
drilling in polar regions into

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those communities standing up to
unsustainable and climate

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disrupting this guy

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and just your regular Filipino
victim. Because you don't

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seem like and he's reading this
Bible, is

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this from is this over to
COVID-19 and Warsaw, is this

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where he was doing this? Or is
he actually even

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though this is the only weak
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but wherever he declared he was
going to go on a fast until the

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until the Green Climate Fund got
some attention?

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Well, this is what's interesting
is that this typhoon happened

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right in the middle of kop 19
which is the you know, the the

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big climate powwow?

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Yeah, this must be where he is.
This

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energy we stand with them. We
cannot solve problems at the

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same level of awareness that
created them. As Dr. pachadi

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alluded Weinstein earlier now
even can pronounce Charlie's

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name, we cannot solve climate
change when we seek to spew more

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emissions. Sir president and I
express this with all sincerity,

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in solidarity with my countrymen
who are struggling to find food

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back home, and with my brother
who has not had food for the

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last three days with all due
respect, Mr. President, and I

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mean, no disrespect for your
kind hospitality. I will now

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commence a voluntary fasting for
the climate. This means I will

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voluntary refrain from eating
food during this call until

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outcomes inside until concrete
pledges have been made to ensure

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mobilisation of resources for
the Green Climate Fund. We

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cannot afford a fourth cup with
an empty GCF.

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Okay. Okay, here's what I'm
thinking, you know, the Asians

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are so reticent to actually be
critical. Apparently the food at

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COP is so bad. This is his way,
always apologising so much.

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I'm so sorry, but I just can't
eat this crap. This food is so

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bad

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in the commissary that this is
his way then with all the

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apologies, Mr. President, I
can't eat this food anymore. I'm

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going on a fast and that's the
way he if it was an American who

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said hey, the food sucks. This
is no you can't do that in Asia.

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So this this whole thing

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happened in the Philippines. And
and my mind immediately went

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when I when I realised this was
taking place in the middle of

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cop 19. In Warsaw, my mind
immediately went to state of

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fear Michael Creighton's book
like, Okay, this could be

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interesting. And how, you know,
we were just waiting for it. And

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of course, you know, people are
now coming out and saying, well,

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obviously this is this is due to
climate change. It's just no two

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other ways about it. And and
we've got to throw in like

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George Clooney, who immediately
threw in a meme, which he's

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jacked up from 95 to 99. Now,
well, it's just a stupid

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argument.

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I mean, you're whether or not
this particular storm is anyone,

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if you have 99% of doctors who
tell you you are sick, and 1%

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that says that you're fine. You
probably want to hang out with a

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check it up for the 99 You know
what I mean? I the idea that we

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ignore it, that we're interested
I'm way involved in climate

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change is ridiculous. What's the
worst thing that happens? You

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know, we we clean up the earth a
little bit. And you know, and

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yeah, I find this to be the most
ridiculous argument ever

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that poor George because he
really messed up what he was

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saying there he even said the
idea where he have some climate

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change is ridiculous. He
couldn't even get that outright.

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But the metaphor is all wrong.
Because if 99% of my doctor say

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I'm going to die, I'm gonna hang
on to that 1% guy who says,

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Look, I got this thing over
here. Don't worry about it. I'm,

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I'm on here, I'm gonna be
sitting on his doorstep every

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single day to give me hope. So
that is the nine that would what

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used to be the 95%. And I've
heard this literal meme. If 95%

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of the doctor said you're sick,
you're gonna believe the 5%?

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Well, I think the metaphor is
wrong. Because yes, I'm gonna

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believe that 5% Then we have of
course, the interesting case of

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you know, there's

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so many budgets to interrupt
you. There's so many Nobel

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Prizes and other effective was
one just recently, I wish I

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could remember the details.
Where one guy in a crowd, one

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lone physicist, would say, now
that I think is this it's this

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way, this is the way these
things work. In this situation,

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I You're full of crap. And he
just dogs on and next thing you

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know, it's 25 years later, he's
proven right? It's a standing

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ovation. And the whole thing,
this is this, you know, unless

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there's never a consensus about
any of this stuff, and that's

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what science that's what makes
science so interesting sciences

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in the sciences never in that's
the thing you have to realise.

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Well,

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you don't have to tell me that
because you know, science.

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All right now. So what I find
interesting is what is the what

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is the first thing we do? And I
had to go back and look at the

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map just to understand that it
dawned on me immediately,

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please, if you're listening to
this podcast, and you have the

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opportunity, go to the
maps.google.com. And just look

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at the Philippines and tell me
where it is, and then say, hmm,

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maybe that's why we sent our
nuclear powered United States

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ship George Washington aircraft
carrier to go and help out.

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Yeah, how convenient that we're
now in the sea of China. Like,

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Japan wasn't close enough. Oh,
we're a little bit closer. We're

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over there, where the Chinese
had been working on oil deals

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with malignant Manila. And
wouldn't it this is not we're

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not sending an aircraft carrier
to help. We're sending an

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aircraft carrier to guard to
make sure that no one else

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weasels in now, here's the
conspiracy theory, which came

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out almost immediately and I
thought was very interesting.

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Although I'd looked at all the
YouTube videos if you maybe

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someone sent you the link from
this guy Dutch sense, I think is

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his name on YouTube. Maybe and
he has all these charts and

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graphs from God knows where and
yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure it's

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all really really well
researched. And he shows where

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the microwave blast caused the
caused the storm. And he shows

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it on the map. And then he shows
what microwaves look like on on

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a radio spectrum which that's
where it fell apart for me

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because I'm looking here at five
five megahertz on in the ham

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band you're showing a software
defined radio from like SDR

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web.com or something so that's
where you full of crap. But the

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idea the idea because you know,
we just a couple of weeks ago we

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were trying to get more bases in
the Philippines and the

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Filipinos like man you know,
thank you man. I think that's so

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important that you have these
bases of course we occupied the

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Philippines at one point and the
Philippines very important you

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know, we get what we get from
the semiconductors. What other

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stuff do we get from the
Philippines? Y'all must be

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tonnes of stuff.

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Well, the main thing nowadays is
call centres Well

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hey. Very important. I'm sure
there's more than just call

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centres Yeah, that

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was not really that important to
us. I

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thought semiconductors was
really big. We can do without

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them we

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Malaysia is where most of those
coming from

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China is there enough oil for to
be interesting to China Sure.

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Thoughts. Yeah,

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I'm not seeing that unless
there's something we don't know

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about but I haven't seen it

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how about just a strategic
geographic location of the

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Philippines?

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I think you know, if you're if
you're gonna go toward here is

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this some sort of weather

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modification and I'm I'm
actually debunking that because

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I know that's in

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his case, but it's possible that
there's a storm that forms and

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you want to make it bigger, give
it a little little boost. You

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might want to drop a bunch of
silver nitrate on it or whatever

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night isn't nitrate, nitrate
nitrate and you know, just a

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pump it up a little bit because
it did go into it with Pastor

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the Philippines who cares and
then it blasted and hit the

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Vietnam coast and went up into
China to some pretty interesting

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areas. So I don't know, I have
no idea what the point of this

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was there. There's been these
typhoons. Here's what bothers

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me. These Typhoons are commonly
are common to this time of year

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and to that region, this part of
the world, and they've been

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going on forever. I was in one
in Taiwan once and I'm it's it's

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really astonishing how much rain
comes down. I mean, you can't

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it's you can't walk. It's you
can't believe how much rain is

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also the one step outside. You
are so

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it's it's the monsoon season?

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Is that what it is? Yeah. The
monsoon season? Yeah, I've

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been in Thailand when that hit
and that's, that's pretty

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serious. I mean, not with the
winds. Yeah, it's very wet. It's

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okay, you know, nothing can
stop, stop there, this water.

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So, and we tried to look up, for
example, you go to the

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Wikipedia, and you look up
typhoons in the Philippines and

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you trying to find some historic
ones, there was a monster in

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1911. There was another big one
in 1967. So I mean, these are

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all pretty dated, but there has
to be stuff that goes way before

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that. And there's there's really
no record. But you have to

445
00:26:08,490 --> 00:26:15,240
assume that this is, is not that
one shot deal. This never had

446
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,640
nothing like this has never
happened before, which is what

447
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,460
always bothers me because we
very rarely covered these

448
00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:21,750
typhoons that hit the

449
00:26:21,780 --> 00:26:25,020
Asia but now we'd have now we
have the now we have the climate

450
00:26:25,020 --> 00:26:25,740
change via

451
00:26:25,740 --> 00:26:28,230
we got climate change now. So
every little thing that happens

452
00:26:28,260 --> 00:26:32,820
anywhere yeah, is focused on and
then you use it as leverage for

453
00:26:32,820 --> 00:26:33,870
climate change. Here's

454
00:26:33,870 --> 00:26:37,500
what here's what Erin Burnett
did on her show. I found this to

455
00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:46,740
be quite bizarre what she I cut
it down to like a minute 15

456
00:26:46,740 --> 00:26:48,960
Because it was five minute
segment and they went to the

457
00:26:48,990 --> 00:26:52,920
their 3d studio. You know where
that that guy who's apparently

458
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,440
the only one? They're still
doing that? Yeah, he's the only

459
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,320
guy who knows how to run the 3d
studio, I guess. And he was

460
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,720
showing us well, this setup. So
what

461
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,810
if a supertyphoon like high end
hit the United States?

462
00:27:03,810 --> 00:27:06,450
That's the question. That's what
we need to know. We don't care

463
00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:07,830
about the Filipinos.

464
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:11,370
When did American, I'm gonna
stop for just one second to

465
00:27:11,940 --> 00:27:15,990
bring up a point. Canadian news,
which I always listen to when

466
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:20,370
I'm up north and Canadian news
for decades. When I started

467
00:27:20,370 --> 00:27:25,620
listening 1020 years ago, was
notorious for every news story

468
00:27:25,620 --> 00:27:28,800
was, oh, San Francisco had an
earthquake. What would it be

469
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,360
like? If it was? What would it
be like if it was here? And I

470
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:37,110
always said, This is so lame.
They can't just report the news.

471
00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:40,950
What happened? They always have
to bring it to Canada. Oh, what

472
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:44,790
would happen if it was in
Canada? We don't care. Now.

473
00:27:45,930 --> 00:27:49,320
But this, but when you hear what
they did on this one? I mean, it

474
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,380
was like Do we really have
nothing else to say I guess

475
00:27:52,380 --> 00:27:56,310
Anderson Cooper was still on
route to be boots on the ground

476
00:27:56,310 --> 00:28:00,720
or something we couldn't get a
live shot or something or just

477
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,580
wasn't interesting enough. To
give you

478
00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:06,750
an idea. As I showed you that
was the superimposed image. But

479
00:28:06,750 --> 00:28:08,010
when you're talking about some
of these,

480
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,650
they're showing they're showing
the East Coast of America with

481
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,270
with the with the radar image of
the typhoon now off the east

482
00:28:15,270 --> 00:28:16,590
coast of America and speeds

483
00:28:16,620 --> 00:28:21,150
235 miles an hour. That that is
there's nothing been any

484
00:28:21,150 --> 00:28:23,370
anything like that. That's a
Category Five of epic

485
00:28:23,370 --> 00:28:26,430
proportions. Katrina hit, of
course, much, much weaker than

486
00:28:26,430 --> 00:28:29,160
that. I believe that 120 miles
an hour. Tom Foreman's outfront,

487
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,190
so he's up front and our stupid
3d studio I guess the question

488
00:28:32,190 --> 00:28:34,620
is the United States. Is it
prepared?

489
00:28:34,740 --> 00:28:37,980
Is it prepared? No, no, that's
the simple answer. Because it's

490
00:28:37,980 --> 00:28:40,080
almost impossible to imagine.
Let's go What are we going to

491
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,260
compare this tension being
prepared for something like

492
00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:45,930
this? We've been trying to
figure out the true scope of a

493
00:28:45,930 --> 00:28:50,010
storm like this all day long.
Just imagine if this had hit

494
00:28:50,130 --> 00:28:54,210
Florida down here effectively
stretching from one end to the

495
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,200
other what might be affected?
What might happen, John, if it

496
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,980
were Florida, can we scare these
stupid slaves into something?

497
00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:06,690
This is wreckage, wreckage,
wreckage, unbelievable. The

498
00:29:06,690 --> 00:29:09,300
damage that we've been done if
this happened, Aaron, there's no

499
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:11,910
question as much as you tried to
evacuate people, there would be

500
00:29:11,910 --> 00:29:15,780
huge loss of life. And even if
you could get everybody out with

501
00:29:15,780 --> 00:29:18,750
that kind of damage, you would
end up with somewhere around,

502
00:29:18,930 --> 00:29:21,930
add up these places alone, just
to counties that are completely

503
00:29:21,930 --> 00:29:25,800
underwater. And you will have
more than 11 million people with

504
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,240
no homes. No businesses, no
roads, you realise where he's

505
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,170
taken us. We've gone from a
typhoon on the other side of the

506
00:29:34,170 --> 00:29:40,890
world to having no businesses,
no home, wreckage 11 million

507
00:29:40,890 --> 00:29:44,490
displaced Americans, and this
would be a national catastrophe,

508
00:29:44,490 --> 00:29:49,170
national catastrophe. What is
the point? He says it has

509
00:29:49,170 --> 00:29:52,110
like during the Chernobyl thing,
doing one of these stories?

510
00:29:52,110 --> 00:29:56,670
Where what if Chernobyl was in
the middle of New York City? I

511
00:29:56,670 --> 00:30:01,350
mean, this is bullcrap. Yeah.
Needless This bullcrap it's

512
00:30:01,350 --> 00:30:05,550
really sad alright so I mean the
conditions aren't the same we

513
00:30:05,550 --> 00:30:08,820
don't have the same tropical
environment it's a tropical area

514
00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:12,120
much more so than Florida are
hookers gives good ocean

515
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,670
conditions is the Pacific versus
the Atlantic call

516
00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:18,750
centres suck in Florida. It's
really now they

517
00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:20,250
gotta they got work. Now the
mail

518
00:30:20,250 --> 00:30:24,330
order brides are no good. In
Florida. In fact, it might be a

519
00:30:24,330 --> 00:30:27,810
benefit. Sorry, sir, get mostly,

520
00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:30,540
I have some Floridians
listening. I

521
00:30:30,540 --> 00:30:33,240
know, too. And so now and then
I'll wrap up my little segment

522
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,700
here with another talking point.
And this is this is also on CNN

523
00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:41,400
because, you know, they aired
that the documentary, the

524
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:44,580
Pandora's Promise documentary.
And so once again, they have the

525
00:30:44,580 --> 00:30:46,800
director on who of course is,
you know, famous, the anti

526
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,010
nuclear now he's pro nuclear.
And here is the talking point,

527
00:30:50,010 --> 00:30:53,130
which I don't understand why
people don't just stand up and

528
00:30:53,130 --> 00:30:58,140
say, hey, that's bull crap. This
is the talking point as to what

529
00:30:58,140 --> 00:31:01,950
and this is the guy talking is
he owns a solar energy company.

530
00:31:03,210 --> 00:31:06,360
So he's a solar guy, and he
hates nuclear. It's the same

531
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,210
thing that Van Johnson said that
we played, I think, on a Sunday

532
00:31:09,210 --> 00:31:12,030
or, or the Thursday before that
you work for a solar company.

533
00:31:12,030 --> 00:31:15,060
That's right, you're completely
against nuclear? Well, I

534
00:31:15,060 --> 00:31:18,240
wish nuclear worked. I wish it
cost less. I think the primary

535
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,360
problem with nuclear power today
is that it cost twice as much as

536
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:26,100
solar power. We as a society
have spent over $100 billion,

537
00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:29,970
trying to make nuclear power
cheap and affordable. The price,

538
00:31:29,970 --> 00:31:33,330
however, has just gone up. So
about 30 years ago, it was about

539
00:31:33,330 --> 00:31:36,570
five cents per kilowatt hour.
Just as recently as last week in

540
00:31:36,570 --> 00:31:40,290
the UK, my home country kind of
embarrassingly, has decided to

541
00:31:40,290 --> 00:31:42,780
subsidise nuclear, so that
they're going to buy from that

542
00:31:42,780 --> 00:31:45,900
power plant at 20 cents per unit
of energy. That's

543
00:31:46,410 --> 00:31:51,900
so the argument that I'm hearing
now, against completely carbon

544
00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:58,110
free energy is not even we're
afraid of Oh, the 60 people who

545
00:31:58,110 --> 00:32:03,450
died in total of all and nuclear
catastrophes, and people can

546
00:32:03,450 --> 00:32:06,030
yell and scream and email me all
you want. But you really look.

547
00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:07,110
I'm gonna

548
00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:09,690
interrupt you for a second.
Somebody brought up this point

549
00:32:09,690 --> 00:32:13,230
to me. I think it was buzzkill
Jr. But to try it because he's

550
00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:17,040
got a friend who's his new kid
guy prone who's always just

551
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,360
feeding them. Yeah, this is why
it's better. Yeah. He said, can

552
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,660
you get the number for me asking
me the question, I want the

553
00:32:24,660 --> 00:32:30,450
number of how many people died
in the Fukushima disaster. I

554
00:32:30,450 --> 00:32:33,600
think it was like three guys or
five guys who died during the

555
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,770
actual explosion.

556
00:32:35,460 --> 00:32:38,160
There's numbers not available,
because I think the numbers

557
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:43,020
lower than anyone wants to
discuss if

558
00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:45,450
you even go to the World Health
Health Organisation who you

559
00:32:45,450 --> 00:32:50,910
would expect to be to lie on the
anti nuke side for Chernobyl,

560
00:32:50,910 --> 00:32:54,480
they'll say, you know, total was
about 60 people. And it's

561
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,410
inconclusive, if all these you
know if all of Europe has

562
00:32:58,590 --> 00:33:01,530
thyroid issues, and they all
died of throat cancer. It's

563
00:33:01,530 --> 00:33:06,810
inconclusive. We've talked about
that enough. This is now this

564
00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:11,310
has now come down to price.
You're going to tell me that

565
00:33:11,580 --> 00:33:15,810
when you have all these other
options of cap and trade and

566
00:33:15,810 --> 00:33:21,780
carbon tax, that why don't we
just if it truly is going to fix

567
00:33:21,780 --> 00:33:24,480
it, but it's too expensive. Why
don't you take all that bull

568
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,470
crap off the table and just do
the expensive stuff? Why does no

569
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:31,830
one say this? Oh, it's too
expensive. Oh, I guess

570
00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:35,520
fuck the way the world is gonna
come to an end. Fuck we're gonna

571
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,880
have it's too expensive. We're
all gonna die. But this is too

572
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:39,780
expensive.

573
00:33:39,870 --> 00:33:42,420
This is what I don't understand
how come no one says exactly

574
00:33:42,420 --> 00:33:46,740
what you just said. Oh, so it's
not worth it to you to spend

575
00:33:46,740 --> 00:33:52,170
more to save the earth? No, it's
what we tried. We tried is too

576
00:33:52,170 --> 00:33:55,260
expensive. It's twice as
expensive as this great solar.

577
00:33:55,260 --> 00:33:59,790
So I guess we'll have to use
this. This is infuriating that

578
00:33:59,790 --> 00:34:02,430
no, I'm I'm screaming at the
television when I see this.

579
00:34:02,459 --> 00:34:05,549
No, this is the I have to say I
kind of mentioned this in the

580
00:34:05,549 --> 00:34:10,649
newsletter. This kind of
discrepancy is we? Our show

581
00:34:10,649 --> 00:34:13,679
seems to be the only one that
ever discusses it. Well, yeah,

582
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:17,399
because we obvious because we're
not getting any money from Big

583
00:34:17,399 --> 00:34:22,619
Oil from big solar or big nuke.
That's true. That's why we

584
00:34:22,619 --> 00:34:23,519
discuss it. But

585
00:34:23,850 --> 00:34:25,350
we're just sitting here
bitching.

586
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,070
And on that note in the morning
to you John C. Dvorak.

587
00:34:29,250 --> 00:34:33,270
Oh, well, in the morning to you,
Adam curry in the morning all

588
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:37,530
the boots on the ground feet in
the air subs in the water. All

589
00:34:37,530 --> 00:34:40,950
the days and nights out there
and I think I left something

590
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:41,130
out.

591
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:43,229
That's all right. I'd like to
thank the Human Resources say in

592
00:34:43,229 --> 00:34:44,909
the morning to them they're in
the chat room norgine

593
00:34:44,909 --> 00:34:48,899
ustream.com no agenda chat.net
in the morning to our artists

594
00:34:48,899 --> 00:34:52,889
and thank you for your courage
nick the rat who was the artist

595
00:34:52,889 --> 00:34:56,699
for episode 564 And we always
look forward to what we can find

596
00:34:56,699 --> 00:35:02,669
it no agenda art generator.com
We'd love our Artists do and the

597
00:35:02,669 --> 00:35:04,769
way we as always, we just
mentioned we don't get any money

598
00:35:04,769 --> 00:35:10,799
from oil from solar greenies. No
green money here. No nuclear

599
00:35:10,799 --> 00:35:14,879
money, green money, green money,
not none of that. No, the way we

600
00:35:14,879 --> 00:35:18,359
do it is we are paid by our
producers, people who listen to

601
00:35:18,359 --> 00:35:22,409
the show and actually produce it
by finances and also by

602
00:35:22,439 --> 00:35:26,339
inflammation. And we have
Associate Executive producers,

603
00:35:26,339 --> 00:35:28,649
just like Hollywood and
Associate Executive producers.

604
00:35:29,069 --> 00:35:30,929
And John is going to go down the
list right now.

605
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,140
We have executive producers and
Associate Executive producers,

606
00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:38,040
as a matter of fact, and for
some reason, and I can't put my

607
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,550
finger on why we have a lot of
them today. And I want to thank

608
00:35:41,550 --> 00:35:44,040
every one of them for jumping
in. Cool. But let's start with

609
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,970
Sir David Foley, the Baron of
Silicon Valley or the Duke of

610
00:35:47,970 --> 00:35:52,380
Silicon Valley. I'm sorry, He's
way up. There it is a Duke came

611
00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:54,510
in with 642 77 which is

612
00:35:55,230 --> 00:35:58,470
what that's an interesting
number show 565

613
00:35:58,710 --> 00:36:05,250
was a bunch of stuff 565 Was fun
is club 565 membership in a sack

614
00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:10,530
of Lucky Seven. Nice. All right,
thank you. So he says sorry for

615
00:36:10,530 --> 00:36:13,620
the gap and support. I've been
on the road scooping up content

616
00:36:13,620 --> 00:36:18,180
for 4k special.com, which is his
website, he sells 4k TVs and

617
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,920
they ship them so you buy when
any any containers in your block

618
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:27,030
continues to offer no agenda
listeners $50 off a purchase of

619
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:32,490
a TV or streaming player using
the discount code in a and they

620
00:36:32,490 --> 00:36:36,420
match that $50 discount with a
$50 donation to the show.

621
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:41,700
And so this is 565 membership
and like I said, the sack of

622
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:45,150
satisfaction lucky said when
thank him, and also is Thanks,

623
00:36:45,150 --> 00:36:52,230
sir Leonarda Ren Kumar, in
groaning in Surlyn. RT 333 33.

624
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:56,370
He must have sent a note in and
I should have pre screen this.

625
00:36:56,370 --> 00:36:57,030
Let's say

626
00:36:57,810 --> 00:37:01,080
we sometimes we screw up those
notes and people get very upset.

627
00:37:01,890 --> 00:37:02,550
Yes.

628
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,370
But also, please don't send a
birthday wish two months in

629
00:37:08,370 --> 00:37:12,960
advance through a check. The
chances are that we do that it's

630
00:37:12,990 --> 00:37:17,610
the chances are low. I mean,
it's us. It's just us. There's

631
00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:17,970
no I

632
00:37:17,970 --> 00:37:22,740
don't have any secretaries
working for us. So here's the

633
00:37:22,770 --> 00:37:29,640
ranking. I didn't say anything
and his email. No, I don't see

634
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,140
that. He's sent us a note. If
you have a note, Leonard send it

635
00:37:34,140 --> 00:37:34,440
again.

636
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:35,940
I don't see it either. John. I'm
looking

637
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:42,480
grainer 333 33 in London,
England. I here's 333 33 For the

638
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,660
best podcast in the universe I'm
donating is a birthday present

639
00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:48,780
to myself. I turned 31 This
Friday, the 15th of November. I

640
00:37:48,780 --> 00:37:50,730
can't believe I've been
listening to you guys since my

641
00:37:50,730 --> 00:37:57,990
early 20s. I was a kid I used to
listen to the no agenda show.

642
00:37:58,050 --> 00:38:01,920
Wait a minute. He turns 31 But
he's listening since his early

643
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,520
20s

644
00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:05,970
And he's listening to us. Right
now. It's guy.

645
00:38:07,050 --> 00:38:08,730
I've been doing it since mid
20s.

646
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,630
It could you've been doing stuff
for at least so I see what

647
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:14,760
you're saying. It's not just the
show. Okay, not just the show.

648
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,260
You didn't say this. But listen
to the show

649
00:38:16,290 --> 00:38:18,840
you guys. You guys.

650
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:24,750
I firmly believe you have shaped
the way I live my life. Whoa,

651
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,360
that's allowing me to see beyond
all the bullcrap that's put out

652
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,270
there by the mainstream media. I
don't own a TV and apart from

653
00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:34,350
the occasional show on a BBS
player, BBC iPlayer I'm sorry

654
00:38:34,350 --> 00:38:36,930
BBC iPlayer. PBS

655
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,650
we're gonna rebrand that thing.
It's the BBS Sleipnir the BBS

656
00:38:40,650 --> 00:38:41,160
plan guys

657
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,350
are the only news I listen to I
love the lack of commercials in

658
00:38:43,350 --> 00:38:46,500
my media consuming life please
give a shout out to my band leaf

659
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:49,680
hound who ironically for me have
just got a lucky break with one

660
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,130
of our songs being used in the
latest Casio G shot project

661
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,420
chilli commercial.

662
00:38:54,450 --> 00:38:58,620
Oh, but that's that's money in
the bank. You get on a

663
00:38:58,620 --> 00:39:01,140
commercial like that for the
Casio. That's huge.

664
00:39:01,170 --> 00:39:02,940
Congratulations. It is huge.

665
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:05,670
I'd also like to request some
card for my latest business

666
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:12,030
venture sported to uk.co.uk
sportive sorry, sport is a UK I

667
00:39:12,030 --> 00:39:18,150
ve uk.co.uk We organise bike
rides and our ride. The Essex

668
00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:21,690
season Ender is coming up this
Sunday. Hopefully the commerce

669
00:39:21,690 --> 00:39:24,360
should keep everything running
smoothly. So you want some

670
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,020
karma? Yeah, thanks, Anna for
countless hours of entrainment

671
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,640
and making me sound
knowledgeable at dinner parties.

672
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,470
sound bite as

673
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:40,110
he talks it, no agenda sound
bites, perfect. It works. You've

674
00:39:40,110 --> 00:39:44,580
got karma. We know it. You can
use it and your new one will be

675
00:39:45,090 --> 00:39:48,720
Hillary Clinton is uniquely
qualified to run the American

676
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:52,260
empire. And we just watched the
smoke because they can't say

677
00:39:52,260 --> 00:39:55,830
anything. Oh, by the way,
Elizabeth Warren apparently is

678
00:39:55,830 --> 00:39:58,200
also they're throwing the piece
someone's throwing her up now.

679
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:58,950
Have you seen this?

680
00:39:59,250 --> 00:40:01,920
That she's thrown But I can
imagine throwing up

681
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:06,300
this like she's being thrown
into the ring, as you know, as a

682
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:06,750
potential

683
00:40:06,750 --> 00:40:10,170
candidate to run against. Oh,
yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, they gotta

684
00:40:10,170 --> 00:40:11,310
make it look good. Yeah,

685
00:40:11,550 --> 00:40:14,850
we need a horse race. Pun
intended everybody.

686
00:40:16,770 --> 00:40:19,890
And finally our last executive
producer, sir random hillbilly

687
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:23,670
from Elkins, West Virginia. I
don't have a note from him.

688
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:25,800
I don't think so either.

689
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,380
I should go over these notes.
I'm going to double check. No,

690
00:40:31,410 --> 00:40:36,870
no. are in the mail Billy. Tim
and his email.

691
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:40,950
This is the only thing you have
to do.

692
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:45,570
You know, I take a lot of these
notes. And I forward them with

693
00:40:45,570 --> 00:40:50,880
the with the moniker in a notes.
Yeah. And then by the time it

694
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,120
was just a couple of things. By
the time I started doing the

695
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,620
clips, I just lose track of that
part of it. But let me take a

696
00:40:58,620 --> 00:41:03,720
look at na just look at N A. And
it's in subject and I just get

697
00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:05,070
all of these notes.

698
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,830
I don't have a few. I mean, I
always hold on everything. I

699
00:41:10,830 --> 00:41:13,110
have a little folder for stuff
that you told me to say. But

700
00:41:13,110 --> 00:41:15,390
it's not any of these. No random
hillbilly.

701
00:41:16,050 --> 00:41:20,970
Yeah, we get a lot of notes from
the NA show. Well, anyway, okay.

702
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:25,650
Now is is our next one is not is
is that not an executive

703
00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:26,490
producer at that level?

704
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:32,280
Well, I think we had no beach.
Well, we'll we'll give it to to

705
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:38,280
Nina. But what does it actually
mean it go from Hamburg? I guess

706
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,600
it just went to her the person's
account. I always thought it was

707
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,550
333 33 was the cut off? I
thought okay, well. But it could

708
00:41:47,550 --> 00:41:50,460
be confusing. I go back and look
on the support page. We don't

709
00:41:50,460 --> 00:41:53,310
even know what you know, it's on
the support page.

710
00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:58,800
Well, the support page, like
athletic support.org/n

711
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,030
is the support page.

712
00:42:00,060 --> 00:42:03,030
You can read the next one and
I'll check and see what what it

713
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:04,230
says on the support page. Don't

714
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:09,420
see random hillbillies nail
here. No, I don't see the other

715
00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:13,290
things here either. Oh, well.
Nina, or I'm sorry, not needed.

716
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:18,600
Elena Chetco from Hamburg. In
the morning, Adam and John. I'm

717
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,030
a new listener of the greatest
podcast in the universe. I want

718
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:23,070
to thank you for your courage
and your hard work. I'd like to

719
00:42:23,070 --> 00:42:27,360
request a biodiversity Don't be
a denier. And you've got karma

720
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,570
jingles. If you would be so kind
would you mentioned my project

721
00:42:30,570 --> 00:42:38,970
that's on Kickstarter it said
saw Oh Mambo. SAWOMAM a b Oh,

722
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,280
thanks so much. And she voted
for no agenda in the podcast

723
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:44,670
award.

724
00:42:44,700 --> 00:42:49,230
I just I just found something
out about that. You have to go

725
00:42:49,230 --> 00:42:54,060
back and vote every day. Why?
Because because everyone else is

726
00:42:54,060 --> 00:42:57,270
doing it. Apparently you can
vote for your favourite podcast

727
00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:01,890
once in every 24 hour period. So
if this is the problem people go

728
00:43:01,890 --> 00:43:03,840
that like click vote whatever
you

729
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,490
need a bot Hey, we got somebody
write us a bot to do this.

730
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,170
I think voting closes today.

731
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,160
All right, here comes a year
goes by

732
00:43:14,370 --> 00:43:17,760
another year. Another award
ceremony

733
00:43:24,180 --> 00:43:31,620
the sciences you've got karma.
You ask?

734
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,060
We deliver

735
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:40,140
$266 from Werner flips in in
Burg Shan hook

736
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,550
barracks and hook pretty good.

737
00:43:43,230 --> 00:43:45,600
That's in the Holland donation
should put me well in the

738
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,970
knighthood executive producer no
agenda Well, above all, he got

739
00:43:47,970 --> 00:43:51,240
some numbers. I want to be
called the Wi Fi night. I know

740
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:54,540
why I won't tell you why. But
yes, you will know why without

741
00:43:54,540 --> 00:43:59,550
telling me why I can guess why.
He's the guy who's a guy. He's

742
00:44:00,420 --> 00:44:03,270
realisations. Anything. Thanks
for making my commuting.

743
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:08,730
Interesting and please a milk
shout out to my wife. That's one

744
00:44:08,730 --> 00:44:16,590
mother. I'd like to have Kevin
Hart in Pleasanton, California,

745
00:44:16,590 --> 00:44:21,540
very nice little town there in
the East Bay. $250 long overdue

746
00:44:21,540 --> 00:44:24,600
that's what they have the county
fair, long overdue value for

747
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,790
value. Thank you for your hard
work and analysis. Now I can

748
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:30,600
stop feeling guilty for not
donating and enjoy the show for

749
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,560
a while. This will not be my
last donation. There are a few

750
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,770
things in life. I look forward
to any more but no agenda on

751
00:44:37,770 --> 00:44:40,560
Monday and Friday on my Monday
and Friday commute is one of

752
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,610
them. I can imagine if you have
a commute. And you know it's

753
00:44:44,610 --> 00:44:47,670
like an Monday especially maybe
Friday too. It's like hell yeah.

754
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:50,250
You start the week off and then
you end the week with us. I can

755
00:44:50,250 --> 00:44:53,130
see where that's cool. That's
nice. I can see it. That's you

756
00:44:53,130 --> 00:44:59,970
when you have the Mondays. Yeah.
Sander hawks Barragan in Zonda.

757
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,560
I'm 2222

758
00:45:04,740 --> 00:45:07,440
Oh hold on a second this is
interesting I hadn't realised

759
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,070
this could happen so we have the
Make It Rain donation which is

760
00:45:11,070 --> 00:45:16,980
111 11 Yeah. And Sandra Oh he
Oh, now I get he tweeted and he

761
00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:20,820
wanted a double Make It Rain
donation, but he gave me the

762
00:45:20,820 --> 00:45:26,640
names John. So you have to he
wants Tara and Robin to be

763
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,260
called to the stage.

764
00:45:28,620 --> 00:45:31,260
So are you ready? Now? I know we
haven't Okay, well put I'm gonna

765
00:45:31,260 --> 00:45:33,870
put on the list. We're gonna do
it in this part of the show

766
00:45:33,870 --> 00:45:34,290
where we

767
00:45:34,529 --> 00:45:36,269
Why don't you do it now we can
do this one now.

768
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:38,849
Because we're gonna have one I
don't want to do it over and

769
00:45:38,849 --> 00:45:41,429
over again. I want to do it
after we'll do it. We'll use his

770
00:45:41,429 --> 00:45:46,349
name's Tara and Robin, which is
what he wants. Yeah, and then

771
00:45:46,349 --> 00:45:52,259
we'll just I have I wrote two
scripts. Oh, I see. Guys. I

772
00:45:52,259 --> 00:45:56,729
didn't realise there's a little
homework. Okay. So there's a

773
00:45:56,729 --> 00:45:59,129
little pattern involved. I got
to put the pattern and I'm gonna

774
00:45:59,699 --> 00:46:02,489
because there's gonna be two
people. I'm gonna have to alter

775
00:46:02,489 --> 00:46:03,149
the script a little

776
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,809
I didn't realise you had worked
on it. Oh yeah. All right. Well,

777
00:46:06,809 --> 00:46:07,109
hold on.

778
00:46:07,469 --> 00:46:11,279
I blew it so badly you know you
did you did you Did I felt bad

779
00:46:11,309 --> 00:46:11,669
Alright, so

780
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:14,700
then let me just because he's an
Associate Executive Producer.

781
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,180
Let me give him a stock make it
rain. How does that sound?

782
00:46:18,869 --> 00:46:26,969
Okay next Bambi Bambi to the
stage I guess like Oh good.

783
00:46:27,029 --> 00:46:30,179
That's thinks that you're gonna
have to throw those clips out

784
00:46:30,179 --> 00:46:33,959
because I got to wish I get some
work on

785
00:46:34,350 --> 00:46:39,270
I can't wait oh wow. Man. I'm so
excited. Hey, come on. Come on.

786
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:41,340
Come on. Come on. I can't get
you to do it now.

787
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,450
I got I'm gonna do it. I got it.
I told you I have to make an

788
00:46:45,450 --> 00:46:48,240
alteration because I got two
names. Okay. Jean nathula The

789
00:46:49,350 --> 00:46:51,300
surgeon he also wants to make it
right

790
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:56,100
he's also was a to x bitches but
he doesn't have name any names

791
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:56,940
or switches. Okay,

792
00:46:56,970 --> 00:47:00,150
well he can put you can send it
to me through the back channel.

793
00:47:00,870 --> 00:47:01,110
Well, I

794
00:47:01,110 --> 00:47:03,240
don't want to have three I guess
I could do three you're gonna

795
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:06,150
have more because we have Make
It Rain donations coming. Yeah,

796
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:06,630
but we're not going

797
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:08,730
to just keep doing the I'm going
to do the one announcement with

798
00:47:08,730 --> 00:47:15,210
all the women in it. That's what
I mean. Yeah. Destiny. We're

799
00:47:15,210 --> 00:47:16,140
gonna be at the gold club.

800
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,200
We want to stage we will be the
gold club. That's the plan

801
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,010
Hello.

802
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,810
dames. Dame Joan data free.
Joanie workington Sir there sir

803
00:47:27,810 --> 00:47:32,460
day. Don't name Joni Morgan Town
to honour bucks. Love you guys.

804
00:47:32,460 --> 00:47:35,010
Thank you so much for watching
MSM for all of us. So you don't

805
00:47:35,010 --> 00:47:38,100
have to and I think that's
right. Oh, by the way. Oh, and

806
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:41,460
I'm sorry. That's, that's
renting these things. I don't

807
00:47:41,460 --> 00:47:44,040
like the way this laid out. This
donation is the honour my son,

808
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,180
sir. Max's birthday was last
Thursday, last Thursday. Yeah,

809
00:47:48,270 --> 00:47:51,960
last Thursday, but last
Thursday, but I forgot to donate

810
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,930
in time for the show last week.
May I please have a D douching.

811
00:47:54,930 --> 00:47:56,220
For being a bad mom.

812
00:47:56,250 --> 00:48:02,400
She You're a horrible mom. This
is. D Do your bad mother.

813
00:48:02,730 --> 00:48:05,610
And as a bonus, she'd like to
honour her husband Alex on his

814
00:48:05,610 --> 00:48:09,000
birthday, which is today 100.
And he doesn't really deserve it

815
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,850
because he refuses to listen to
the show. Oh, wow. No, he

816
00:48:11,850 --> 00:48:16,890
doesn't. This is the no agenda
news app. At least he won't say

817
00:48:16,890 --> 00:48:19,980
for sure. Also, some travel car
would be greatly appreciated if

818
00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:23,100
you travelled to Cozumel, again
this year over Thanksgiving

819
00:48:23,340 --> 00:48:26,490
diving and much needed
relaxation. We're going to be

820
00:48:26,490 --> 00:48:30,120
hanging out with some of my
friends who was a total obat and

821
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:33,330
hopefully the karma will help me
keep my mouth shut so I don't

822
00:48:33,330 --> 00:48:34,890
ruin the whole week for
everyone.

823
00:48:36,750 --> 00:48:44,820
Oh, it's another instalment of
with the youth got calm.

824
00:48:44,820 --> 00:48:45,270
Remember,

825
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:50,820
just say Hillary is uniquely
qualified to run the Empire. Sit

826
00:48:50,820 --> 00:48:52,110
back and watch the fun.

827
00:48:53,460 --> 00:48:58,230
Andrew Wilson and Hampton
Victoria $200 Great show Can I

828
00:48:58,230 --> 00:49:00,810
get some karma from my wife and
I were trying to have a human

829
00:49:00,810 --> 00:49:03,870
resource. Thanks, Andrew. And
Mel is in Melbourne.

830
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:07,710
Absolutely. You've got karma
Good luck with that

831
00:49:08,910 --> 00:49:11,490
anonymous donor donate dollar
donation from Dublin.

832
00:49:12,060 --> 00:49:15,030
So I oh three months from now.
No, no less like six weeks or

833
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:19,170
so. We should know. If it
weren't what well, if it worked

834
00:49:19,170 --> 00:49:19,770
for Andrew.

835
00:49:20,820 --> 00:49:21,900
Oh, yeah, no, no,

836
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,870
no. Let us know. If we're good
with that. I have a feeling that

837
00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:27,510
we somehow we have some like
some lucky. Like it's

838
00:49:28,260 --> 00:49:31,710
it's the it's the vibration of
the bell. I believe.

839
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,790
That would be it. So yes.

840
00:49:36,270 --> 00:49:41,550
So anyway, I want to mention to
people that you can help us

841
00:49:41,550 --> 00:49:44,520
continue doing this show for as
long as you want by going to no

842
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,440
agenda nation.com no agenda
show.com or divorce.org/n A

843
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,830
which is the main support page
to warwick.org/n A.

844
00:49:54,330 --> 00:50:01,230
and P are mentioned member Nick
Principi. Donate Good and he got

845
00:50:01,230 --> 00:50:05,430
our name on the credits. Yeah of
a movie. So the movie is the

846
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:09,060
Black Cat in the Raven. Open
your browser John, I want you to

847
00:50:09,090 --> 00:50:12,900
he took a shot of it. In fact,
I'm going to do it too because

848
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:15,900
there's audio with it. It's it's
short, but it's beautiful. And

849
00:50:15,900 --> 00:50:25,080
go to N A movie p r.currie.com.
And EULA that should take you

850
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,290
right to the movie. And I'm
going to listen what happens

851
00:50:28,290 --> 00:50:31,500
when our name shows up. It says
our feature presentation shall

852
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:36,300
begin in a moment. Join us on
Facebook. And then a black cat

853
00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:39,360
is proudly sponsored by no
agenda, no agenda show.com

854
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,060
Devoid that org slash na and
people are clapping in the

855
00:50:42,060 --> 00:50:46,410
audience. John. This is the
audience's copy for our show.

856
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:50,310
What am I looking at? Are you
seeing it? Yeah, watch right

857
00:50:50,310 --> 00:50:53,430
now. It's just showing the
feature presentation. You'll see

858
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:57,360
it you'll see it. See how the
moments it seems like a long

859
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,230
time here it is. Join us on
Facebook search for after that

860
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,180
retro Fantasma films through so
this is at some theatre I take

861
00:51:06,180 --> 00:51:10,320
Yeah. And the no agenda thing
they they're sponsored Yeah

862
00:51:10,350 --> 00:51:10,560
Don't

863
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,340
you remember he donated any
sponsored us with a with like a

864
00:51:14,340 --> 00:51:16,230
movie donation? Oh, yeah, I
remember

865
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,030
the credit. So he's now Okay, so
they were the crazy people in

866
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:21,150
the

867
00:51:21,150 --> 00:51:25,050
audience are applauding our
show. And not like know what

868
00:51:25,050 --> 00:51:29,310
they're not like hands but like
it's like a bunch of people.

869
00:51:29,730 --> 00:51:32,310
This is in North Carolina. You
have more listeners than we

870
00:51:32,310 --> 00:51:35,100
think. Yeah, that's what was so
amazing. Like, if people

871
00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:37,680
we rolls out the logo, no
agenda.

872
00:51:39,330 --> 00:51:44,070
What people actually have heard
of our show. I thought that was

873
00:51:44,070 --> 00:51:47,250
extremely cool. So you can
that's in the show notes of

874
00:51:47,250 --> 00:51:47,970
course. And I liked

875
00:51:48,270 --> 00:51:51,540
I liked his little his little
creation here with a fireball.

876
00:51:51,570 --> 00:51:58,230
Yes, pretty. It's very pretty
well. Well, thank you all very

877
00:51:58,230 --> 00:52:00,690
much. This is indeed a good
showing for today. Thank you to

878
00:52:00,690 --> 00:52:03,090
our executive producers and
Associate Executive producers

879
00:52:03,090 --> 00:52:08,850
for keeping the show on the road
vorak.org/n A. And of course,

880
00:52:08,850 --> 00:52:11,100
just like in the movie theatres,
we need you to go out and

881
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:16,350
propagate our formula. Our
formula is this. We go out, we

882
00:52:16,350 --> 00:52:17,340
hit people in the mouth.

883
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:37,920
I wouldn't mind going straight
into let me see if I have it

884
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:49,230
though. Distraction was agenda.
This would definitely be

885
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:54,060
disappointingly, the most
emailed article that I received.

886
00:52:54,990 --> 00:53:03,990
Where the British authorities
say it is pretty much likely and

887
00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:08,160
probably an accident that that
spy, zipped himself in the bag

888
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,510
and locked himself in the locker
and died in this tragic

889
00:53:12,510 --> 00:53:18,180
accident. And while you know, so
this is like, look, we know that

890
00:53:18,180 --> 00:53:23,910
that's bullcrap. And obviously,
and it's become like a joke,

891
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,180
where we're just like, Oh,
that's so crazy. I can't believe

892
00:53:27,180 --> 00:53:29,490
they're saying that. But
meanwhile, all this stuff is

893
00:53:29,490 --> 00:53:34,110
happening that no one's paying
attention to it particularly in

894
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:39,120
the United Kingdom. And now let
me see a time I have a clip

895
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:45,840
here. There is a shut up slave
slave training exercise going on

896
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:51,240
that is of just epic
proportions. That is now about

897
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:54,690
to be related to a proposed bill
and the way I understand it from

898
00:53:54,690 --> 00:53:57,990
people who have helped me read
this and this is in Gitmo nation

899
00:53:57,990 --> 00:54:01,560
East in the UK. It looks like
it's going to pass with very few

900
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,530
of any amendments and pretty
quickly, which means that it

901
00:54:04,530 --> 00:54:08,070
goes to Royal Assent I guess the
Queen has to sign off on it. And

902
00:54:08,070 --> 00:54:13,500
this is the the new anti social
behaviour crime and policing

903
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:23,400
bill are 2013 2014 where we now
are introduced to the I P N A.

904
00:54:24,450 --> 00:54:26,070
Now have you heard anything
about this John?

905
00:54:27,450 --> 00:54:29,520
The i p and A

906
00:54:29,550 --> 00:54:33,300
the injunctions to prevent
nuisance and annoyance?

907
00:54:33,390 --> 00:54:35,250
No, no, you got me here. This

908
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:40,950
is an I can't believe that that
the people of Britannia are not

909
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:46,740
on the streets rioting against
this. This gives the authorities

910
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,520
this bill actually I'll read you
the just the the they call it a

911
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,840
bill in the UK to go figure
makes provisions about

912
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,050
antisocial behaviour, crime and
disorder including provisions

913
00:54:58,050 --> 00:55:00,840
about recovery of possessions of
dwelling how so they can kick

914
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,730
you out of your house. There's
all these things they can do.

915
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:08,640
But essentially, if you it's,
it's also pre crime, if you are

916
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:14,820
a nuisance or annoying. The
police can't arrest you. They

917
00:55:14,820 --> 00:55:18,060
can throw you out of your house,
they can throw your family out

918
00:55:18,060 --> 00:55:21,780
of their house. If you are 10
years of age or older, this is a

919
00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:25,890
change from the the anti social
behaviour orders where it was 18

920
00:55:25,890 --> 00:55:29,820
but not enough. And now, a local
authority can do this, a housing

921
00:55:29,820 --> 00:55:32,790
provider can do the chief
officer of police for police

922
00:55:32,790 --> 00:55:36,510
area, a constable of the
transport police force, like the

923
00:55:36,510 --> 00:55:41,100
tube cops, the environment
agency's YouTube car, yeah. Oh,

924
00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:45,120
yeah. God, and when you read
through this British put up with

925
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,080
this well, because they're being
tricked into laughing about the

926
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:54,060
spy in the bag. And you know,
anyone who was remotely 29 steps

927
00:55:54,060 --> 00:55:57,540
removed from the royal child.
That's all that the press is

928
00:55:57,540 --> 00:56:01,020
talking about over there,
apparently. And this thing is,

929
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:06,750
it is just sick. When you see
what I mean, literally, if if

930
00:56:06,750 --> 00:56:10,980
you're a nuisance, and
annoyance, or if you are going

931
00:56:10,980 --> 00:56:18,060
to be a nuisance. Then all all
these powers kick in. And I am

932
00:56:18,090 --> 00:56:23,070
flabbergasted that that this is
not like the number one

933
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,930
conversation in Gitmo nation
each because when this if this

934
00:56:27,930 --> 00:56:32,970
thing passes, that's it, you're
done. I mean, how can you how

935
00:56:32,970 --> 00:56:35,640
can you stop this? How can how
can you then you have no

936
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,120
recourse. This is why we have
guns in America is to stop this

937
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:44,310
tyrannical behaviour from the
government. And by the way, a

938
00:56:44,310 --> 00:56:46,740
criminal behaviour order that
includes a requirement must

939
00:56:46,740 --> 00:56:50,610
specify the person, a person may
be an individual, but can also

940
00:56:50,610 --> 00:56:54,450
be an organisation. So it's not
just for individual persons, it

941
00:56:54,450 --> 00:56:57,120
could be for your, for your
knitting club, because they're

942
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,770
an annoyance. And it can be from
making noise, they can come on a

943
00:57:01,770 --> 00:57:05,640
public place, and determined
that you are a nuisance and tell

944
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,720
you to shove off go away from
this public spot. How can people

945
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:12,180
stand for this? This is against
human rights even?

946
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,490
Well, that's from our
perspective, this is the reason

947
00:57:14,490 --> 00:57:17,220
we put the Bill of Rights in
because we were sick of the

948
00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:20,970
British rule where they just you
know, hey, a soldier is going to

949
00:57:20,970 --> 00:57:22,890
put stay in your place, hey,
we're going to come in and look

950
00:57:22,890 --> 00:57:25,290
around, and all that sort of
thing, even though we have a

951
00:57:25,290 --> 00:57:28,920
bunch of people now wanting to
go back to that, for obvious

952
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:33,480
reasons. Yeah. Who, who, though
bots,

953
00:57:34,830 --> 00:57:37,290
but you know, it is kind of like
that. So first of all, the

954
00:57:37,290 --> 00:57:40,260
problem really stems from the
drinking. And the drinking is

955
00:57:40,260 --> 00:57:43,410
because there's nothing to do
for the kids. There's no jobs,

956
00:57:43,410 --> 00:57:47,100
there's no future. I mean,
Christina has friends, they are

957
00:57:47,130 --> 00:57:50,850
either either growing weed in
their basement and selling it,

958
00:57:51,210 --> 00:57:54,060
or they're working for Domino's
and distributing weed in the

959
00:57:54,060 --> 00:57:59,250
Domino's boxes or, or they're in
Afghanistan shipping poppies

960
00:57:59,250 --> 00:58:01,830
back. And you know, we got some
information on that later on,

961
00:58:01,830 --> 00:58:10,470
too. But But these new laws were
being annoying is going to be

962
00:58:10,770 --> 00:58:15,120
this show. We could probably
could not do this show in the

963
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:19,710
United Kingdom because we would
just be annoying. And we can be

964
00:58:19,710 --> 00:58:20,760
given an order to

965
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,630
doing it in the United Kingdom.
But we but they can't come into

966
00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:25,950
our house those bastards

967
00:58:25,980 --> 00:58:31,950
not not yet. So I'm just
flabbergasted that these things.

968
00:58:31,950 --> 00:58:32,580
So it's the

969
00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:37,470
you know, and this is Cameron.
Cameron, the big libertarian.

970
00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:37,860
Yeah.

971
00:58:38,850 --> 00:58:42,450
So I have links to the to the
legislation in the show notes

972
00:58:42,450 --> 00:58:46,530
read through it. I think I
tweeted a link. I'm like, Well,

973
00:58:46,530 --> 00:58:49,260
this is night. This is a model
for Europe, the UK setting the

974
00:58:49,260 --> 00:58:53,010
setting the stage. And then
English people were like, what

975
00:58:53,010 --> 00:58:58,740
section of the bill do you find
so offensive? What section? How

976
00:58:58,740 --> 00:59:04,020
about the whole bloody thing?
It's just it flabbergasting.

977
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:09,090
flabbergasting. Yeah, really,
really, really flabbergasting.

978
00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:11,820
And then of course, as a part of
the you know, this is

979
00:59:12,270 --> 00:59:14,730
it keeps things nice and quiet
for the upper class.

980
00:59:15,780 --> 00:59:19,350
Yeah, well, you know that that
is really the truth. It's really

981
00:59:19,350 --> 00:59:22,140
all about this is for this is
law for the upper class because

982
00:59:22,140 --> 00:59:24,540
the Riff Raff are annoying me in
my neighbourhood.

983
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:29,490
Yeah, these riffraff and making
too much noise now they're

984
00:59:29,490 --> 00:59:31,410
yelling at each other call the
police

985
00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:34,110
in Europe itself. We had the
Council of Europe which I'm

986
00:59:34,110 --> 00:59:36,990
still a little unclear what the
Council of Europe does.

987
00:59:37,020 --> 00:59:40,320
Yeah, you know I am to it comes
and goes in the new cyclists

988
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,670
like what why? This is different
than the legislator of Europe.

989
00:59:44,670 --> 00:59:47,490
The council have something else
and there's a million Council it

990
00:59:47,490 --> 00:59:50,310
got a big website. They got a
really big website, the Security

991
00:59:50,310 --> 00:59:51,930
Council in the United Nation, I
believe.

992
00:59:52,049 --> 00:59:54,839
Also they they're all over the
hate speech thing, which is

993
00:59:54,839 --> 00:59:58,739
another thing which is how can
you distinguish freedom of

994
00:59:58,739 --> 01:00:02,849
speech from hate speech? This is
again, just not something that

995
01:00:02,849 --> 01:00:05,039
makes any sense in my mind.

996
01:00:06,210 --> 01:00:09,030
Students and human rights
activists have discussed ways to

997
01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:12,360
stop the spread of hate speech
at a conference in France

998
01:00:12,780 --> 01:00:17,010
to stop the spread like it's an
ink flick the ink ink spot, it's

999
01:00:17,010 --> 01:00:20,730
so that was such an ink spot,
just spreading the spreading of

1000
01:00:20,730 --> 01:00:25,440
hate speech. What what does that
even mean? I hate you. Hey, man,

1001
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:26,850
that's unconstitutional.

1002
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,080
The Council of Europe held the
three day meeting in the eastern

1003
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,000
city of Strasburg do a three

1004
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:42,210
day meeting about this stuff.
It's dry, you you're ugly. I

1005
01:00:42,210 --> 01:00:45,180
don't like you look gay. I don't
like you because of that. Is

1006
01:00:45,180 --> 01:00:47,040
that hate speech? Is that is
that? I don't know. I don't

1007
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:47,250
know.

1008
01:00:47,610 --> 01:00:50,100
The hate speech is anything you
want it to be that Thank you.

1009
01:00:50,370 --> 01:00:53,940
The conference attracted over
150 participants from 38

1010
01:00:53,940 --> 01:00:57,960
countries. Hey, hate speech is
legally prohibited in many

1011
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,660
European countries. But the
regulations are not keeping up

1012
01:01:00,660 --> 01:01:03,030
with the expansion of the number
of Internet users.

1013
01:01:03,060 --> 01:01:06,960
Oh, it's hate speech on the
internet. Of course.

1014
01:01:07,710 --> 01:01:09,300
Some countries are considering
on

1015
01:01:09,300 --> 01:01:12,630
a second back back up that clip
and I want to hear that, again.

1016
01:01:13,380 --> 01:01:17,430
What's not keeping up with the
number of users? The regulator

1017
01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:19,950
law, the regulation is a
regulation. It doesn't have to

1018
01:01:19,950 --> 01:01:24,090
keep up. It has to exist. No, it
doesn't have to change. Oh,

1019
01:01:24,150 --> 01:01:26,910
there's twice as many people
let's change the law.

1020
01:01:26,970 --> 01:01:30,870
No, but I'm pretty sure it's
about the anonymous hate speech,

1021
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:32,130
John, but still,

1022
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,770
the regulations are not keeping
up with the expansion of the

1023
01:01:34,770 --> 01:01:38,640
number of Internet users. Some
countries are considering

1024
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:43,080
imposing tougher penalties. The
participants dispute what

1025
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,650
do you say I hate you and you
blow up. What could a tougher

1026
01:01:46,650 --> 01:01:47,400
penalty be?

1027
01:01:47,700 --> 01:01:50,850
Just how to deal with hate
messages posted on the intranet?

1028
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:56,340
Donate me. One person proposed
stepping up online monitoring

1029
01:01:56,340 --> 01:01:58,860
and asking website operators to
delete them.

1030
01:01:58,950 --> 01:02:03,900
Yes, this is a good concept
called moderating or monitoring

1031
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:06,930
you know we need monitoring from
the government. Government will

1032
01:02:06,930 --> 01:02:10,230
monitor you and we will ask you
politely to remove the hate

1033
01:02:10,230 --> 01:02:13,920
speech. If you do not remove the
hate speech. Your website will

1034
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:14,550
go poof

1035
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,150
another set of schools should
educate students not to use hate

1036
01:02:18,150 --> 01:02:24,000
speech by showing them examples
of it. Oh, oh that's elicit

1037
01:02:24,030 --> 01:02:29,340
examples of flooring. I know it
when I see it. Eliminate its

1038
01:02:29,340 --> 01:02:32,640
pitch, but we can prevent it
from taking root on young

1039
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:38,040
people. Council staff member Rui
Gomez said he welcomes imposing

1040
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,670
stricter regulations to draw
people away from hate speech.

1041
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,540
I'm sorry. Is there a definition
I should have looked this up?

1042
01:02:46,350 --> 01:02:47,040
Definitely.

1043
01:02:48,090 --> 01:02:52,170
We do have a woman affected by
hate speech. There's a we have a

1044
01:02:52,170 --> 01:02:55,050
clip. Early glitch girl.

1045
01:02:55,590 --> 01:02:58,710
Oh god, I clipped this and threw
it out.

1046
01:02:59,010 --> 01:03:01,500
I kept it this is the one that
was the the interview with her.

1047
01:03:01,530 --> 01:03:02,070
Yes

1048
01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:06,390
of course glitch girl was
interviewed on ABC and she

1049
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,290
decided that she was being
bullied now the real story here

1050
01:03:10,290 --> 01:03:13,680
is not the this is the woman
that is face is kind of a cute

1051
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,180
Columbia. I think she's
Colombian and

1052
01:03:15,180 --> 01:03:17,760
she by the way, so you're not
you're not seeing her properly.

1053
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,870
She is the face who was on the
healthcare.gov website right the

1054
01:03:21,870 --> 01:03:24,450
first face and she's being
interviewed and she has the

1055
01:03:24,450 --> 01:03:28,830
exact same hairdo and earrings
and makeup everything exactly

1056
01:03:28,830 --> 01:03:31,950
the same so you can identify her
as glitch girl

1057
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:35,310
as glitch girl. And apparently
some people had you know made

1058
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,550
fun of her fun of her and they
bullied her and she bitches

1059
01:03:38,550 --> 01:03:41,850
about being bullied. Because
they moved her eyes closer

1060
01:03:41,850 --> 01:03:42,930
together. I love

1061
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,760
I love those Photoshop jobs.

1062
01:03:47,310 --> 01:03:50,040
So she felt really a put upon
it. So she had to come out and

1063
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,340
do this interview. Now, the real
interesting factoid in this

1064
01:03:53,340 --> 01:03:56,190
interview to me is none of this.
I don't care. I think it's

1065
01:03:56,190 --> 01:04:00,060
interesting that they brought
her to tears. Yes. Which is we

1066
01:04:00,060 --> 01:04:03,060
had with this Philippine guy to
bring in people to tears is what

1067
01:04:03,060 --> 01:04:06,360
the network's like to do. That's
ratings. But what I think

1068
01:04:06,450 --> 01:04:08,880
there's a little tidbit in here
I want to see if you catch it

1069
01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:12,870
because it's what to me was the
number one thing and this clip

1070
01:04:12,870 --> 01:04:13,410
the other side

1071
01:04:13,410 --> 01:04:16,680
of the Obamacare rollout and the
woman who became the face of the

1072
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:22,470
website fiasco, plastered on the
homepage of healthcare.gov, the

1073
01:04:22,470 --> 01:04:26,400
source of anger for so many and
ABCs Amy Robach spoke to her and

1074
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,590
an ABC News exclusive great to
see Amy,

1075
01:04:28,620 --> 01:04:30,960
thank you so much. Good morning
Robin and her picture may be

1076
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,960
gone now from the website but
the woman who actually has a

1077
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,380
name Adriana says she is not
completely over the sting of

1078
01:04:37,380 --> 01:04:42,030
what she calls bullying is the
face that launched a frenzied

1079
01:04:42,030 --> 01:04:46,890
hunt. Smiling lady, have you
seen the Mystery Girl? As

1080
01:04:46,890 --> 01:04:49,860
frustrations with a glitch
plagued Obamacare website

1081
01:04:49,860 --> 01:04:53,370
mounted people turn their
attention to the mystery woman

1082
01:04:53,370 --> 01:04:57,390
on the homepage. And until now
her identity remained a secret.

1083
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,690
Why do you want to speak out now
because I mean it serve as a

1084
01:05:00,690 --> 01:05:04,560
chance to tell people who I am
and not just let everybody else

1085
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:05,580
do whatever they want.

1086
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,690
I wanted her to say because I'm
looking for a big part. I'd like

1087
01:05:09,690 --> 01:05:10,980
a movie role or something.

1088
01:05:11,250 --> 01:05:13,110
She you know, she could have
said stuff like that and they

1089
01:05:13,110 --> 01:05:14,310
cut it out. Oh true.

1090
01:05:14,340 --> 01:05:20,070
So who is the woman who was the
face of the Obamacare website?

1091
01:05:20,220 --> 01:05:25,710
I'm a mother and a wife and not
a professional model Adriana who

1092
01:05:25,710 --> 01:05:29,670
asked that we not use her last
name is from Colombia and not a

1093
01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:32,910
US citizen though she is
eligible to apply for health

1094
01:05:32,910 --> 01:05:34,560
care under her permanent
residents.

1095
01:05:34,620 --> 01:05:38,700
That was it. It was a commercial
lease that's what I that was my

1096
01:05:38,700 --> 01:05:39,570
takeaway wrong.

1097
01:05:40,980 --> 01:05:42,450
But that's not what I got.

1098
01:05:42,690 --> 01:05:44,580
Let me continue then. I'm sorry,
you status.

1099
01:05:44,730 --> 01:05:47,640
And while she says the picture
was supposed to be a typical

1100
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,570
stock photo, she says she never
anticipated it would quickly

1101
01:05:51,570 --> 01:05:55,860
become a laughingstock we signed
on. Lisa said it was possibly

1102
01:05:55,860 --> 01:05:59,670
going to be used for material
for promoting the health care,

1103
01:05:59,700 --> 01:06:03,090
which is there know that it was
going to have a negative impact.

1104
01:06:03,150 --> 01:06:07,320
You've been dubbed glitch girl,
the most despised face on the

1105
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:12,840
planet. Did you ever anticipate
this type of publicity scrutiny?

1106
01:06:12,900 --> 01:06:17,220
No. Adding insult to injury,
Adriana says she wasn't paid for

1107
01:06:17,220 --> 01:06:20,280
the photo. Have you ever
experienced anything like this

1108
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,740
before? And you're like, Wow,
this is actually a reason why I

1109
01:06:22,740 --> 01:06:27,600
wanted to be here. Because I say
kid, I never went through that.

1110
01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:32,430
But now I am in some sort of
bullying. There it is. It is

1111
01:06:32,430 --> 01:06:39,930
bullying money shot. But at the
same time. You know, I thought I

1112
01:06:39,930 --> 01:06:41,100
had to do this.

1113
01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:43,440
What did you hear?

1114
01:06:44,700 --> 01:06:49,770
Okay, they spent $100 million
plus they didn't pay me 600

1115
01:06:49,770 --> 01:06:54,900
million on this website. She
doesn't get a nickel. They don't

1116
01:06:54,900 --> 01:06:59,490
even give her a modelling fee.
What kind of greedy bastards are

1117
01:06:59,490 --> 01:07:00,540
running this country?

1118
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:10,260
Ron Blum? That's funny. Yeah. I
hadn't I didn't look at it that

1119
01:07:10,260 --> 01:07:10,590
way.

1120
01:07:11,460 --> 01:07:15,870
That's the way I looked at it.
That's funny. But you're right.

1121
01:07:15,870 --> 01:07:18,060
I think there was a commercial
aspect to it. Don't forget if

1122
01:07:18,060 --> 01:07:21,000
you're an illegal you can call
it your dragon. She has a work

1123
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,510
permit. Here. And on this, we
got to get our numbers up

1124
01:07:24,540 --> 01:07:28,740
and look this up for us. Hate
speech is outside the law,

1125
01:07:28,890 --> 01:07:32,430
communication that vilifies a
person or a group based on

1126
01:07:32,430 --> 01:07:36,900
discrimination against that
person or group. In law, hate

1127
01:07:36,900 --> 01:07:41,310
speech is any speech gesture or
conduct writing or display,

1128
01:07:41,580 --> 01:07:45,390
which is forbidden because it
may incite violence or pre

1129
01:07:45,390 --> 01:07:49,650
judicial action against or by a
protected individual or group.

1130
01:07:50,310 --> 01:07:53,310
Or because it disparages or
intimidates a protected

1131
01:07:53,310 --> 01:07:57,390
individual or group. The law may
identify a protected individual

1132
01:07:57,390 --> 01:07:59,910
or protected group by certain
characteristics. In some

1133
01:07:59,910 --> 01:08:03,300
countries. A victim of hate
speech may seek redress under

1134
01:08:03,300 --> 01:08:06,690
civil law, criminal law or both.
But hey, oh, this is important.

1135
01:08:06,870 --> 01:08:14,340
A website that uses hate speech
is called a a hate site. Most of

1136
01:08:14,340 --> 01:08:21,750
these sites contain internet
forums and newsletters emphasise

1137
01:08:21,750 --> 01:08:28,050
a particular viewpoint. It's us.
I don't want to say too much.

1138
01:08:28,380 --> 01:08:38,610
But turn that mic up there. Mr.
de C. Dvorak. Critics have

1139
01:08:38,610 --> 01:08:41,550
argued the term hate speech is
contemporary example of Newspeak

1140
01:08:41,550 --> 01:08:44,400
used to silence critics of
social policies that have been

1141
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,190
poorly implemented in a rush to
appear politically correct.

1142
01:08:47,190 --> 01:08:50,820
Well, yes. I'm going to the
Netherlands. We're leaving

1143
01:08:50,820 --> 01:08:54,180
tomorrow for a week. Let me see
what the law is the Dutch Penal

1144
01:08:54,180 --> 01:08:58,260
Code prohibits both insulting
group and inciting hatred,

1145
01:08:58,260 --> 01:09:02,640
discrimination or violence. Wow.
Here it is. He who publicly

1146
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,520
orally in writing or graphically
intentionally expresses himself

1147
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,040
insultingly regarding a group of
people because of their race,

1148
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:12,120
their religion, or their life
philosophy, their heterosexual

1149
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,010
or homosexual orientation, I

1150
01:09:14,010 --> 01:09:17,970
got a clip that that makes fun
of this. I'm going to be it

1151
01:09:17,970 --> 01:09:19,800
right after you're done with
this definition. We're going to

1152
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,270
go to a hate speech clip.

1153
01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:24,480
Okay. When we finish up the
definition, there heterosexual

1154
01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:28,140
homosexual orientation, or their
physical, physiological or

1155
01:09:28,140 --> 01:09:32,280
mental disability, shall be
punished by imprisonment of no

1156
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:37,230
more than a year, or a monetary
penalty of the third category,

1157
01:09:37,230 --> 01:09:41,970
whatever that means. So I can't
say hey, cripple, I always say

1158
01:09:41,970 --> 01:09:42,480
that

1159
01:09:42,780 --> 01:09:43,920
you don't say that. I

1160
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:48,810
say yes. All the time. The
cripples like it. They do. I the

1161
01:09:48,810 --> 01:09:53,100
way I say it, because I this is
I've always done this. You just

1162
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:56,490
bring out the obvious and then
you you make it no big deal.

1163
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,560
This is what I learned growing
up in Amsterdam. This is the

1164
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:02,910
crazy thing is that hey, cripple
How you doing and then okay how

1165
01:10:02,910 --> 01:10:05,130
you how you feeling? Well except
for the cancer that's killing me

1166
01:10:05,130 --> 01:10:08,730
feel pretty good oh okay then we
can move on and not have this

1167
01:10:08,730 --> 01:10:12,180
cloud hanging over us least
that's my experience but I guess

1168
01:10:12,180 --> 01:10:14,580
I can beat now be arrested and
thrown in jail for a year

1169
01:10:14,610 --> 01:10:17,670
yes a year and they by the way
that will not be I don't think

1170
01:10:17,670 --> 01:10:20,010
they're gonna give you a line so
we can do the show where you're

1171
01:10:20,010 --> 01:10:20,880
in the slammer?

1172
01:10:21,480 --> 01:10:24,750
Are you kidding me? In Holland
in the slammer? You get

1173
01:10:24,750 --> 01:10:25,440
internet?

1174
01:10:25,710 --> 01:10:28,500
Do you get high speed you get
broadband? Absolutely. Can you

1175
01:10:28,500 --> 01:10:30,540
have your microphone and rig

1176
01:10:30,570 --> 01:10:32,700
yeah can have the ultimate
podcast device all

1177
01:10:32,700 --> 01:10:34,170
sounds fine.

1178
01:10:35,250 --> 01:10:38,190
I'm not worried about the price.
It's the the monetary penalty

1179
01:10:38,190 --> 01:10:40,200
I'm worried about. That's the
point I had also that

1180
01:10:40,260 --> 01:10:42,900
you wouldn't be able to get
clips as easy I don't think

1181
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,500
Do you have the content on that?
Let's play the clip. Okay, now

1182
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:50,160
here's this hate speech clip by
this definition. This is the

1183
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:55,740
hate speech clip I have this is
a clip on kale. And obviously

1184
01:10:56,100 --> 01:11:01,770
it's hate speech by definition
because it mocks kale and this

1185
01:11:01,770 --> 01:11:05,370
book that just came out it's
just very is mocking a book that

1186
01:11:05,370 --> 01:11:08,970
now this is Craig Ferguson a
late night guy and I had to clip

1187
01:11:08,970 --> 01:11:12,120
this I usually don't clip these
guys by clip this one because I

1188
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:16,290
had to look this book up myself
but he I think some summarises

1189
01:11:16,290 --> 01:11:19,800
my feelings. But this is pure
hate speech.

1190
01:11:21,090 --> 01:11:23,430
I was just waiting for the show
to start you know, getting

1191
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:31,170
myself ready for some quality
entertainment. I saw the book

1192
01:11:31,170 --> 01:11:38,070
that Jeff was reading it was 50
Shades of kill real book ever

1193
01:11:38,070 --> 01:11:41,850
written. This is a book that I'm
apparently plugging right now

1194
01:11:41,850 --> 01:11:44,460
but it's a book which I just
read in the little thing you

1195
01:11:44,460 --> 01:11:46,560
know, the thing on the inside,
kind of like the tweet or

1196
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:53,730
something little blurb for the
book. It says indulge savour

1197
01:11:53,730 --> 01:11:56,460
satisfied there. Remember, we're
talking about kale here, right?

1198
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,380
It says nothing is sexier than a
sharp mind atop a lean healthy

1199
01:12:01,380 --> 01:12:02,700
body. Well, that's true.

1200
01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:10,620
That's me. Okay, few foods are
able to deliver this promise

1201
01:12:10,650 --> 01:12:11,520
like kale.

1202
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:17,100
She is the ideal plant in many
ways. But first of all, I reject

1203
01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:19,830
the notion that a plant has
agenda that's very sexist. I

1204
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:24,450
look. She She kale is the ideal
plant many ways. Beautiful,

1205
01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:30,450
versatile, nourishing and
downright delicious. Something

1206
01:12:30,450 --> 01:12:33,750
else when I eat kale, because
these people have turned kale

1207
01:12:33,750 --> 01:12:37,890
and some of the interest in in
tasty. I reject it, frankly, I

1208
01:12:37,890 --> 01:12:39,720
think it's I think it's mohkum

1209
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:46,440
we've had two dinners since our
last show. And in both Mickey's

1210
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:49,680
getting pissed at me now,
because in both cases I'm like,

1211
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,040
Oh, I shall order the kale in
the end you know when when the

1212
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,560
when the server is asking me
what I'd like because I'm

1213
01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:00,000
convinced it takes like crap no
matter who makes it. And

1214
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:01,980
this is hate speech. Hate it.

1215
01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:08,400
I'm hating the kale. And in both
cases so far total crap. It just

1216
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:09,030
sucks.

1217
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,840
I'm reading from the book now
the inside thing that he was

1218
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,020
really referring to the little
you have the book or you have

1219
01:13:16,020 --> 01:13:19,800
the book. Wow, I don't have the
book. I have the Amazon look

1220
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,910
inside the book cliffnotes live
notes in 50 Shades of CO

1221
01:13:23,910 --> 01:13:27,480
Discoverer 50 and Tyson's 15 as
best they could do it right away

1222
01:13:27,480 --> 01:13:30,210
we're putting the book together
for the no agenda show called

1223
01:13:30,210 --> 01:13:33,360
the kale recipe book and have
some name for it won't be that

1224
01:13:33,390 --> 01:13:36,720
that's a working title. I want
people to submit kale. Why don't

1225
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:37,770
you say I've only got

1226
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:42,750
six? Yeah, thanks everybody.
It's gonna be a real thin book.

1227
01:13:43,260 --> 01:13:46,320
So we have we have and it's her
as always, the kale is referred

1228
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:51,180
to as a woman and kale cheddar
omelette, get your hands a

1229
01:13:51,180 --> 01:13:55,230
little dirty with afternoon
quickies. Haha, get it likes

1230
01:13:55,230 --> 01:13:59,460
zucchini and kale bites, turn up
the heat with Chipotle flank

1231
01:13:59,460 --> 01:14:04,260
steak with lime black beans and
kale. Oh man are spicy Mussels

1232
01:14:04,260 --> 01:14:07,950
with kale and surrender your
most forbidden cravings with

1233
01:14:07,950 --> 01:14:13,830
chocolate chip kale cookies. I
mean, okay, so this is to me as

1234
01:14:13,830 --> 01:14:18,000
hate speech, what we're doing is
attacking vegetable. But I did

1235
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,730
some research on kale. And it
turns out that there's a kale

1236
01:14:20,730 --> 01:14:24,270
Institute type of operation
running out of England with

1237
01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:28,170
public relations support that
has triggered this national

1238
01:14:28,170 --> 01:14:32,100
movement to eating kale, which
and if you ever look at I think

1239
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:36,210
it's because they're trying to
grow it as a cash crop that

1240
01:14:36,210 --> 01:14:40,050
people actually buy and want
instead of chard, or spinach,

1241
01:14:40,050 --> 01:14:42,150
which are more problematic, and
you can actually do a lot of

1242
01:14:42,150 --> 01:14:44,640
hydroponics with the spinach and
most of it's not even grown in

1243
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:49,170
the dirt anymore. And so kale is
a crop that's resistant to bugs

1244
01:14:49,470 --> 01:14:54,420
in it even the insects won't eat
it and it trying to promote this

1245
01:14:54,420 --> 01:14:56,070
kale. Like

1246
01:14:57,690 --> 01:14:59,730
what does that scare this crap

1247
01:14:59,879 --> 01:15:03,179
with? In this tale, there's a
horrible kale, which everyone

1248
01:15:03,179 --> 01:15:05,819
defends, especially the
vegetarians have been sold a

1249
01:15:05,819 --> 01:15:10,019
bill of goods are all over. But
again, I were soliciting

1250
01:15:10,019 --> 01:15:14,279
recipes, I believe it's possible
to make kale tastes good under

1251
01:15:14,279 --> 01:15:18,509
some circumstances you have my
basic theory now is you'd have

1252
01:15:18,509 --> 01:15:21,839
to par boil it for about 10
minutes. And then you have to

1253
01:15:21,839 --> 01:15:24,929
fry it with a lot of garlic and
oil until it softens up and then

1254
01:15:24,929 --> 01:15:29,789
you have to put it in a food
processor and puree it with

1255
01:15:29,789 --> 01:15:30,839
something else.

1256
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:36,360
Yeah, like chocolate chip
cookies or something. Speaking

1257
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:40,620
of crops, John, my favourite
report came out once again. And

1258
01:15:40,620 --> 01:15:45,270
you know, I always look forward
to reading the report from the

1259
01:15:45,270 --> 01:15:50,520
UN ODC. We've been tracking the
UN ODC reports. For months since

1260
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,810
the show began. I think un ODC
of course, is the United Nations

1261
01:15:54,810 --> 01:16:02,970
Office on Drugs and Crime and
good news, opium crops in

1262
01:16:02,970 --> 01:16:10,740
Afghanistan all time high. This
is so funny, because in this

1263
01:16:10,740 --> 01:16:12,420
report, well, I have

1264
01:16:12,900 --> 01:16:15,510
this too. This is hilarious. So
I actually have the report,

1265
01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:18,300
as I always do. I've highlighted
some bits for you. It's in the

1266
01:16:18,300 --> 01:16:21,420
show notes. 565 dot na
shownotes.com. Let me read just

1267
01:16:21,420 --> 01:16:25,230
a few choice bits, starting at
the Preface. opium poppy

1268
01:16:25,230 --> 01:16:29,340
cultivation in Afghanistan
reached a sobering record high

1269
01:16:29,340 --> 01:16:33,000
in 2013. And we're not even done
with 2013.

1270
01:16:33,150 --> 01:16:35,010
I like to use the word soberly.

1271
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,500
According to the 2013
Afghanistan opium survey, which

1272
01:16:40,500 --> 01:16:43,140
by the way, John, you and I
should be on the board of that

1273
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:49,980
cultivation amounted to some
209,000 hectares. How many acres

1274
01:16:49,980 --> 01:16:50,370
is that?

1275
01:16:50,730 --> 01:16:52,830
Oh, let me get I'll do the
calculation. Will you read

1276
01:16:52,890 --> 01:16:55,860
outstripping the earlier record
in 2000? December again,

1277
01:16:55,890 --> 01:17:02,190
2200 9000. hectares? Okay,
outstripping the earlier record

1278
01:17:02,190 --> 01:17:09,360
in 2007, of 193,000 hectares and
representing a 36% increase over

1279
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:15,750
2012. This is really, in fact,
let's

1280
01:17:15,900 --> 01:17:22,290
516,450 acres Yes. partay.

1281
01:17:24,180 --> 01:17:28,290
Moreover, the two provinces that
had previously been declared

1282
01:17:28,290 --> 01:17:34,380
Poppy, free Faryab and bulk in
northern Afghanistan, lost this

1283
01:17:34,380 --> 01:17:42,030
status, but that's okay.
Because, you know, all in all,

1284
01:17:42,270 --> 01:17:46,890
opium production in 2013, went
up to some five and a half 1000

1285
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:57,120
tonnes, a 49% increase over
2012. Very, very good. As we

1286
01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:00,270
approach 2014, and the
withdrawal of international

1287
01:18:00,270 --> 01:18:03,990
forces from the country,
Afghanistan, working with its

1288
01:18:03,990 --> 01:18:07,320
many friends and allies and a
spirit of shared responsibility,

1289
01:18:07,590 --> 01:18:10,650
must make some very serious
choices about the future it

1290
01:18:10,650 --> 01:18:15,060
desires and act accordingly.
reining in the illicit economy,

1291
01:18:15,090 --> 01:18:18,630
criminality and corruption is
essential. So I went through

1292
01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:23,100
this whole report for you and
for you people listening and a

1293
01:18:23,100 --> 01:18:25,470
couple other fact sheet here
about the the survey, just a

1294
01:18:25,470 --> 01:18:28,560
couple. Some other numbers.
Besides the acreage of the

1295
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:33,870
current GDP are in 2012, the GDP
of Afghanistan was 18 point 95

1296
01:18:33,870 --> 01:18:38,430
billion thanks to the increase
in the poppy trade that is now

1297
01:18:38,430 --> 01:18:43,500
21.0 4 billion. So this good
news. Total farm gate value of

1298
01:18:43,500 --> 01:18:47,130
opium production in 2012 was oh
point 7 billion we are now at oh

1299
01:18:47,130 --> 01:18:53,700
point 95 billion, an increase of
4% of the tire GDP to the gross

1300
01:18:53,700 --> 01:18:58,260
income from OPM per hectare.
Now, so what was that number?

1301
01:18:58,260 --> 01:19:02,700
Again? You had John, you had the
516,450

1302
01:19:02,700 --> 01:19:03,360
acres

1303
01:19:03,389 --> 01:19:06,539
time. Okay, so but we had to do
the hectare so it was let me

1304
01:19:06,539 --> 01:19:11,009
just get 209,200 9000 Hold on a
second. I'm gonna get the

1305
01:19:11,009 --> 01:19:20,609
calculator 209 One 2000 crap
into that 209123 times the value

1306
01:19:20,609 --> 01:19:28,649
of each hectare per year is 4500
bucks. That is a whopping when

1307
01:19:28,649 --> 01:19:33,359
we count the zeros 12312 Right
nine to set that's a trillion

1308
01:19:33,359 --> 01:19:38,759
dollars as $940 million, billion
a billion dollars I'm sorry, a

1309
01:19:38,759 --> 01:19:42,569
billion dollars. That's just the
raw stuff. That's just growing

1310
01:19:42,569 --> 01:19:47,309
it. What's interesting about
this report is Nowhere. Nowhere

1311
01:19:48,029 --> 01:19:52,019
do they explain how it gets
transported? Isn't that

1312
01:19:52,019 --> 01:19:56,579
interesting? But the data, but
the BBC holds seems to be

1313
01:19:56,909 --> 01:20:00,629
overlooked. How many? Five and a
half 1002 ones

1314
01:20:00,690 --> 01:20:04,440
you got five I just thought
Yeah, yeah,

1315
01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:06,870
I don't know how that works. So
there's a map here, which is

1316
01:20:06,870 --> 01:20:07,530
really cool.

1317
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,640
10 here you got lots of stuff to
move. I gotta move it

1318
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,400
to the show the cultivation,
they have maps in this. You've

1319
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,820
got to look at it. It's
hilarious. So they have home on

1320
01:20:17,820 --> 01:20:21,570
province, Kandahar province or
has gone Province, where the

1321
01:20:21,570 --> 01:20:27,300
bases are. You've heard these
names in the news. The Dutch

1322
01:20:27,300 --> 01:20:30,270
people who Korea got or has
gotten that's where the entire

1323
01:20:30,270 --> 01:20:35,940
Dutch military are probably
happy, Kandahar province Helm,

1324
01:20:35,940 --> 01:20:38,640
you've heard these names. And
this is where the largest

1325
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,400
increases have taken place
that's on the map, right where

1326
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:46,020
the bases are because we are
protecting them and the BBC have

1327
01:20:46,020 --> 01:20:48,990
this. So the BBC has this report
all about Poppy is up rubber

1328
01:20:48,990 --> 01:20:52,410
opium production. And here's
their video report. Here's

1329
01:20:52,440 --> 01:20:56,670
here's what they lead us to
believe about this 209,000

1330
01:20:56,670 --> 01:21:01,650
hectares of five and a half 1000
tonnes of poppy. As Afghanistan

1331
01:21:01,650 --> 01:21:05,370
records its largest opium
harvest these graves tell a

1332
01:21:05,370 --> 01:21:09,810
story as to just what the effect
of that is on the people of this

1333
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:14,400
country. This is Ghulam Nabi his
friend Abdul Karim, who were

1334
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:18,600
hanged in Iran for trying to
cross the border smuggling sacks

1335
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:23,250
of opium five and a half 1000
tonnes. Apparently, the reward

1336
01:21:23,250 --> 01:21:26,370
had they got to the other side
would have been as little as

1337
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:31,890
$100 at about 70 pounds, the
penalty for them and other men

1338
01:21:31,890 --> 01:21:36,210
whose bodies ended up in this
graveyard was death. They came

1339
01:21:36,210 --> 01:21:40,530
from the village down the hill,
which because of the this rather

1340
01:21:40,530 --> 01:21:43,230
curious trade that many of the
men in the village have become

1341
01:21:43,230 --> 01:21:48,090
involved in curious trade. You
mean this financial bonanza for

1342
01:21:48,090 --> 01:21:52,410
everyone involved is known
locally as widows village, it's

1343
01:21:52,440 --> 01:21:57,780
changed its name. That's the
profound effect on families in

1344
01:21:57,780 --> 01:22:02,040
this part of Afghanistan have
this difficult and grim trade.

1345
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:06,030
This is one of the world's most
unstable frontiers between

1346
01:22:06,090 --> 01:22:10,200
Afghanistan and Iran over here
behind the why you can see

1347
01:22:10,470 --> 01:22:15,510
Afghans who are coming home
having been working in Iran or

1348
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,360
or perhaps they've been to see
relatives that are still many

1349
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:22,830
Afghan refugees over there. But
you can see that the Iranian

1350
01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:27,240
frontier is just about a 50
yards 50 metres behind me over

1351
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,750
there President cars eyes
picture on this side of the

1352
01:22:30,750 --> 01:22:35,670
border. And beyond that the two
Ayatollahs mark the place where

1353
01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:39,420
Iran begins to now they show
them a whole bunch of trucks and

1354
01:22:39,420 --> 01:22:43,470
like, Well, maybe it's in those
trucks. Now on this side, is

1355
01:22:43,470 --> 01:22:46,800
what the world is really
concerned about. These are

1356
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:51,210
hundreds of trucks that pass
through this frontier every day,

1357
01:22:51,330 --> 01:22:56,340
most of them empty coming from
Afghanistan, going out into

1358
01:22:56,340 --> 01:23:00,720
Iran, and the local customs
police border policeman here,

1359
01:23:00,930 --> 01:23:05,040
told me that he believes about
10 of those trucks might have

1360
01:23:05,310 --> 01:23:09,240
contraband drugs on them might
be loaded with opium or heroin

1361
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:13,650
hidden in a compartment. Yes,
five and a half 1000 tonnes of

1362
01:23:13,650 --> 01:23:16,710
secret compartments. Bull crap.

1363
01:23:17,580 --> 01:23:20,520
How's a couple of things that
I've obviously I started one is

1364
01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:23,850
one thing. It's a story that's
it's a, there's two guys was

1365
01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:27,810
there's freelancers, obviously,
poached a couple of bags and

1366
01:23:27,810 --> 01:23:30,030
stuff that's trying to get
across

1367
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:34,200
interns not even freelance. It's
an intern stole some bags.

1368
01:23:34,230 --> 01:23:36,900
Yeah, it took a couple of bags
across the border on their own

1369
01:23:36,900 --> 01:23:39,060
as if they're, you know, trying
to get a few extra bucks that

1370
01:23:39,060 --> 01:23:43,050
are underpaid. And they're not
French enough to protest this.

1371
01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:46,800
So they then so they made a big
story out of that. Now, the fact

1372
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:50,520
that the story exists, because
this is a small border incident

1373
01:23:50,910 --> 01:23:55,440
in Iran someplace that we
shouldn't even know about,

1374
01:23:55,620 --> 01:23:57,960
unless it's sending a message.
So the only reason this was

1375
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,380
covered as a news story, it was
to try to get it out and far

1376
01:24:01,380 --> 01:24:05,520
enough out there. So these these
Afghanis that work in these, you

1377
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:11,850
know, these opium places. Don't
try to pull this crap. Yeah,

1378
01:24:11,850 --> 01:24:14,040
you're working for us. You were
pretty well paying. Yeah,

1379
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,550
don't be stealing the sacks.
Don't be trying to do that.

1380
01:24:17,550 --> 01:24:21,180
Because you'll wind up here in
the grave. You'll be coming from

1381
01:24:21,180 --> 01:24:26,550
that widow town, just loaded on
to the C 47 As we told you to.

1382
01:24:29,220 --> 01:24:33,510
And again, please take note that
we no longer on in American news

1383
01:24:33,540 --> 01:24:37,530
during the longest war in our
history. Have a rivals on

1384
01:24:37,530 --> 01:24:41,970
television or any pictures
whatsoever of a flag draped

1385
01:24:41,970 --> 01:24:45,810
coffins. And please see the
movie American Gangster to

1386
01:24:45,810 --> 01:24:49,950
understand what might possibly
be going on with these planes

1387
01:24:49,950 --> 01:24:50,670
that come back.

1388
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:55,230
Right and American Gangster.
Fascinating film is based on the

1389
01:24:55,230 --> 01:24:59,640
real guy who's still alive and
still tells this story. It's

1390
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:03,210
nuts. to dramatise, yes, but
it's it's the way it worked,

1391
01:25:03,210 --> 01:25:08,190
which was we're using coffins of
wood, or drugs and ship them all

1392
01:25:08,190 --> 01:25:08,880
over the place.

1393
01:25:08,910 --> 01:25:11,790
And I'm not blaming the
military, I'm planting it

1394
01:25:11,790 --> 01:25:16,140
squarely on the CIA. That is
what they do. And do and that's

1395
01:25:16,140 --> 01:25:16,260
how

1396
01:25:16,260 --> 01:25:19,530
you that's how they can maintain
this budget of having every

1397
01:25:19,530 --> 01:25:21,750
third person in the country
working for them.

1398
01:25:21,780 --> 01:25:24,300
And that's how the banks
maintain their

1399
01:25:24,750 --> 01:25:29,100
Yes. This is the basic, no
agenda thesis. All right. Now,

1400
01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:29,250
of

1401
01:25:29,250 --> 01:25:33,450
course, we have the other drug
trade, which is, I think,

1402
01:25:33,450 --> 01:25:37,380
sometimes funnier, more
interesting. And certainly

1403
01:25:37,380 --> 01:25:42,930
wildly profitable. And oh, yes,
legal. Got a huge boost. As we

1404
01:25:42,930 --> 01:25:46,410
had a report come out, and the
minute I saw the headline, I

1405
01:25:46,410 --> 01:25:50,370
knew I had to follow up. Doctors
say 33 million Americans should

1406
01:25:50,370 --> 01:25:53,700
be taking statin drugs. Well,
wait a minute, I hear the you

1407
01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:57,660
know, the magic number. That's
the magic number. Then you know

1408
01:25:57,660 --> 01:26:02,730
that something's up. And one of
our producers, fantastic. He, he

1409
01:26:02,730 --> 01:26:04,800
was freaking out. He says, Oh my
God, because I have no agenda. I

1410
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,830
knew exactly what was going on
he collected for us. Not one,

1411
01:26:07,830 --> 01:26:11,700
not two, but three reports, all
chopped down here to 32nd size

1412
01:26:11,700 --> 01:26:17,940
bites of the great new reports
about Lipitor. And I wonder, I

1413
01:26:17,940 --> 01:26:21,840
wonder what it could mean. Let's
go to CBS segment one,

1414
01:26:21,870 --> 01:26:25,080
doctors used to rely on a
specific cholesterol level to

1415
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,860
determine which patients needed
the drugs known as statins. Now,

1416
01:26:28,890 --> 01:26:31,980
new guidelines from the American
Heart Association and the

1417
01:26:31,980 --> 01:26:35,820
American College of Cardiology
are recommending statins for for

1418
01:26:35,820 --> 01:26:38,550
high risk groups. The groups
include patients with

1419
01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:42,600
cardiovascular disease, those
with a bad cholesterol of 190 or

1420
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:47,010
higher patients between 40 and
75 with type two diabetes, and

1421
01:26:47,010 --> 01:26:51,240
patients between 40 and 75, with
a 10 year elevated risk of

1422
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:52,680
cardiovascular disease,

1423
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:56,370
we're trying to take the people
who benefit most and give them

1424
01:26:56,370 --> 01:26:59,490
the therapies to start with that
benefit most

1425
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:04,230
die lovest Yes, I am between 40
and 120 years old and I have at

1426
01:27:04,230 --> 01:27:07,770
least 10 years of some kind of
precancerous pre heart things

1427
01:27:07,770 --> 01:27:08,640
Global's yeah you

1428
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:10,860
do you bear start taking this
stuff. Now. Let's

1429
01:27:10,860 --> 01:27:14,580
go to CBS follow up report to
measure that risk. The panel

1430
01:27:14,580 --> 01:27:17,640
created a calculator that
considers factors other than

1431
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,540
just cholesterol. A calculator,
John, get out your calculator.

1432
01:27:21,540 --> 01:27:22,680
Let's see if you need

1433
01:27:22,710 --> 01:27:24,540
a I obviously, do I

1434
01:27:26,220 --> 01:27:30,870
looting ethnicity? Oh, this
city. We don't have enough black

1435
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:36,360
people on this drug. Come on.
That's a huge market, can't you

1436
01:27:36,390 --> 01:27:38,280
I can't believe we're not
selling to these people. For

1437
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,580
example, a 50 year old white
male with treated high blood

1438
01:27:41,580 --> 01:27:45,990
pressure, total cholesterol of
220. And good cholesterol of 45

1439
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:49,470
has a 10 year risk of
cardiovascular disease of 5%

1440
01:27:49,710 --> 01:27:52,680
Cool statin treatment may not be
warranted. Maybe for a man who

1441
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:56,790
is African American group known
to be at higher risk. The exact

1442
01:27:56,790 --> 01:28:00,660
same numbers give a risk of
almost 9% a level that meets the

1443
01:28:00,660 --> 01:28:04,590
panel's criteria for treatment.
Now, what kind of racist crap is

1444
01:28:04,590 --> 01:28:09,330
this? That was so racist and
hate speech? How do you get to

1445
01:28:09,330 --> 01:28:13,530
say a group that is known for
higher risk? Why? Because

1446
01:28:13,530 --> 01:28:17,850
they're black. Is it something
that I miss out on some great

1447
01:28:17,970 --> 01:28:22,080
scientific discovery? Well,
let's ask Sanjay Gupta over at

1448
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:26,940
CNN. What this basically means
now is that if you go to your

1449
01:28:26,940 --> 01:28:30,120
doctor and you meet one of these
four criteria, heart disease,

1450
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:34,200
diabetes, a cholesterol over
190, or whore black heart risk

1451
01:28:34,230 --> 01:28:36,090
greater than seven and a half
percent, you're probably going

1452
01:28:36,090 --> 01:28:38,040
to be prescribed a statin drug.
And then if you look at the

1453
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,920
projections, they say about
35 36 million people are taking

1454
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,760
the drugs now it could literally
double it could go to 70 to 76

1455
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,300
million people within the next
few years. They're not sure. Did

1456
01:28:48,300 --> 01:28:49,500
you hear that? John?

1457
01:28:50,220 --> 01:28:55,020
It's a bonanza it can double
Yes, yes.

1458
01:29:00,030 --> 01:29:06,330
Yes. So they you know, it's
generic. Now Lipitor. There is a

1459
01:29:06,330 --> 01:29:09,480
generic statins are all generic
Yes. But the drug companies have

1460
01:29:09,480 --> 01:29:11,850
bought the generic companies
that make the generics and so

1461
01:29:11,850 --> 01:29:14,910
they keep the price is the same.
So it's like a buck a pill or

1462
01:29:14,910 --> 01:29:17,520
two bucks or satisfy the
expensive Pfizer has

1463
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:22,830
the has Lipitor, and Merck has
the Xolo Corazon was I think

1464
01:29:22,830 --> 01:29:27,420
Zola Coors is what did the
generic version of it and these

1465
01:29:27,420 --> 01:29:31,950
are, these are multiples of six
$7 billion a year drugs. And so

1466
01:29:31,950 --> 01:29:34,950
they came out so these are all
commercials, and we were waiting

1467
01:29:34,950 --> 01:29:37,740
for this to happen. We're like,
you know, because pharma, you

1468
01:29:37,740 --> 01:29:41,340
know, they need to advertise and
these are advertisements to get

1469
01:29:41,340 --> 01:29:44,280
you to scare you because you're
black. You should go and get

1470
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:45,000
your statins.

1471
01:29:45,690 --> 01:29:48,090
Yeah, obviously the blacks have
not been buying into this so

1472
01:29:48,090 --> 01:29:49,710
they have to be scared better.

1473
01:29:51,150 --> 01:29:56,070
And, and it's a commercial and
I'm disgusted by it. I am and

1474
01:29:56,070 --> 01:29:59,970
you should be not you but people
listening should just be so this

1475
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,620
custard by it oh right down this
jam Katya and Nadia

1476
01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:09,150
well what about Tara and Robin
what

1477
01:30:09,150 --> 01:30:12,630
not the Katya and Nadia shirt
jeans? Dancers.

1478
01:30:13,470 --> 01:30:18,930
Katya, Katya. Katya Katya Katya
and Nadia well whatever who's

1479
01:30:18,930 --> 01:30:20,700
cheering and Robin now that's

1480
01:30:20,700 --> 01:30:23,970
for that's for our other
producer that's for

1481
01:30:24,780 --> 01:30:28,830
so we got Katya Nadia Tara Robin
destiny and Hillary

1482
01:30:30,630 --> 01:30:36,510
guess anyway so that is how the
mainstream and a couple of in

1483
01:30:36,510 --> 01:30:41,670
the champagne room this is no
sex in the champagne room this

1484
01:30:41,670 --> 01:30:48,000
is how mainstream media does it
and and I'm glad that we have

1485
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,970
our producers out there you know
catching it and saying oh wow,

1486
01:30:50,970 --> 01:30:54,030
this is unbelievable. It's a
bonanza you just yeah you can

1487
01:30:54,030 --> 01:30:57,060
wait for all the commercials to
roll out and the media bio will

1488
01:30:57,060 --> 01:30:59,670
be done based upon who did a
good job on the on the roll. I

1489
01:30:59,670 --> 01:31:05,070
think CBS did well. They had two
segments and and of course

1490
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,830
Sanjay Gupta he had the he did
have whole produced numbers you

1491
01:31:07,830 --> 01:31:10,740
Did you hear the music and you
had like he was in green screen

1492
01:31:10,740 --> 01:31:16,680
and everything going on. So
very, very impressed with with

1493
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:22,350
the big pharma advertising with
in conjunction with their a

1494
01:31:22,350 --> 01:31:32,100
trade groups. Okay, shall we go
into our rode into our big

1495
01:31:32,100 --> 01:31:32,640
commercial?

1496
01:31:34,980 --> 01:31:40,290
Which I'm writing to no agenda?
Imagine all the people who could

1497
01:31:40,290 --> 01:31:42,060
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be
fun.

1498
01:31:49,020 --> 01:31:53,220
First time in weeks that we do
it on time, so we might as well

1499
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:54,570
roll it out.

1500
01:31:54,870 --> 01:31:57,720
Oh, yeah. That's a good thought.
Yeah. We do have a few people

1501
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:05,160
that think starting with Yakov
Kravitz in Parts Unknown 169 69

1502
01:32:05,460 --> 01:32:08,310
And then he came in again, but
this time he's in Princeton junk

1503
01:32:08,580 --> 01:32:12,210
touch in New Jersey, really? 160
nicely, so I'm not sure what

1504
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:13,920
what the deal is. Maybe he's,

1505
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:19,740
he did I think he came up with a
second donation for his wife.

1506
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:21,030
wish her happy birthday

1507
01:32:21,030 --> 01:32:24,030
and she was gonna have to move
him up to executive producer.

1508
01:32:24,540 --> 01:32:25,890
With doubles. Yeah, I

1509
01:32:25,890 --> 01:32:27,840
agree. I agree. So we'll just do
that

1510
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,240
afterwards. But he does have a
note in the Morning John and

1511
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:33,960
Amis donation Sunday, November
17. I like to wish my wife Anna.

1512
01:32:34,260 --> 01:32:38,700
Happy birthday this November 16.
They give her some 6969 Karma.

1513
01:32:41,370 --> 01:32:43,170
Okay, so how do I do that?

1514
01:32:43,290 --> 01:32:46,860
You give him just dorsum 60 I
don't know what we have 6969

1515
01:32:46,860 --> 01:32:47,130
Cook.

1516
01:32:47,580 --> 01:32:50,610
Oh, no, we don't really well.
I'll give you a couple of karma.

1517
01:32:50,970 --> 01:32:55,260
She'll know what to do with it.
Apparently not. I don't think

1518
01:32:55,260 --> 01:32:57,540
she'll have any trouble figuring
it out as involve

1519
01:32:57,540 --> 01:33:01,260
yak off? Yes, it does. Sean
Connolly in Naperville,

1520
01:33:01,260 --> 01:33:04,260
Illinois, all the way from
Chicago via Arkansas. What's

1521
01:33:04,260 --> 01:33:08,130
Hillary on new 111 11 Call out
so she's on the list. I'm going

1522
01:33:08,130 --> 01:33:12,750
to do a one call out for all the
girls. Okay. At least I'm going

1523
01:33:12,750 --> 01:33:15,780
to try all right now that
there's 20 of them. Yeah, well,

1524
01:33:15,780 --> 01:33:19,020
this is a potter Laurent. Yes,
sir. Lauren Osterman from

1525
01:33:19,050 --> 01:33:22,680
Innsbruck, Austria. Please
mention me uh, sir Lauren

1526
01:33:22,710 --> 01:33:26,130
Osterman from innsbrook Okay.
Hi, Nancy and Frank. Awesome

1527
01:33:26,130 --> 01:33:28,140
work lately. I really enjoyed
the last few episodes if

1528
01:33:28,140 --> 01:33:31,740
possible, to get some na
healthcare karma. I've been

1529
01:33:31,740 --> 01:33:35,100
expressed a feeling of
suffocation yet no physiological

1530
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:36,240
reasons could be found.

1531
01:33:37,980 --> 01:33:41,340
Okay, well, we'll hit you with
the karma in a bit. First, we

1532
01:33:41,340 --> 01:33:42,720
got to get through the makeup
room.

1533
01:33:42,750 --> 01:33:46,530
Duane Mallinson, the Duke of
mystery and tie guard or again

1534
01:33:47,940 --> 01:33:52,530
111 11 And he's got he's got
Marissa

1535
01:33:52,620 --> 01:33:58,560
as in Meyer. He says, let's make
it rain. For and bring Marisa as

1536
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,440
admire to the stage also was
Duke of mystery. I hereby

1537
01:34:01,440 --> 01:34:05,730
reserved 33 and me for future
use in your genetic data

1538
01:34:05,730 --> 01:34:09,870
spoofing activities. Very good.
33 me.com I guess he got that.

1539
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,870
It is parked as a forward to no
agenda. show.com That's great.

1540
01:34:13,710 --> 01:34:16,770
And waiting for your courage. 33
and me.com Great. Well, that's a

1541
01:34:16,770 --> 01:34:25,110
good website. Oh, okay. Then we
have Ray Metz aquarium services

1542
01:34:25,110 --> 01:34:30,390
in San Diego, California. Also
111 11 Making it rain on 1112 13

1543
01:34:30,390 --> 01:34:34,410
Give it up for destiny. And Eric
Brzezinski from West Hartford

1544
01:34:34,410 --> 01:34:38,340
Connecticut with 111 11 Here's
the money from the interview I

1545
01:34:38,340 --> 01:34:42,750
did plus another 1111 to make it
rain. Maybe I can get a little

1546
01:34:42,750 --> 01:34:45,510
girl yay. No, I'll give you the
little girl yeah, you did not

1547
01:34:45,510 --> 01:34:49,590
give us a name for for your Make
It Rain segment. But John, you

1548
01:34:49,590 --> 01:34:52,770
tell me when you're ready, and I
will and I will roll it all out

1549
01:34:52,770 --> 01:34:53,070
and

1550
01:34:53,790 --> 01:34:55,680
get gotta get close to the mic.
So I get

1551
01:34:56,550 --> 01:34:58,920
over modulate and I got I'm
going to put a little echo on

1552
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,110
it. So you tell me when you're
ready. Then we'll kick it off.

1553
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:06,930
Here Okay, hit it all right,
please welcome to the stage Tara

1554
01:35:06,990 --> 01:35:09,600
is bombshells a former ballerina
and tight end playing for the

1555
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,810
Seattle miss in the lingerie
Football League looking to score

1556
01:35:12,810 --> 01:35:19,110
with anyone who can make a pass
Tara on stage two and stage

1557
01:35:19,110 --> 01:35:24,210
three bring out Robin, Robin and
destiny. Ladies and gentlemen

1558
01:35:24,210 --> 01:35:25,830
come on let's put your hands
together and give a growing

1559
01:35:25,830 --> 01:35:28,410
Welcome to Robin and destiny.
They like to trampoline blow

1560
01:35:28,410 --> 01:35:31,980
glass sky skydiving played the
skin flute for Robin and

1561
01:35:31,980 --> 01:35:36,780
destiny. Katie Nadia to the
champagne room Melissa to the

1562
01:35:36,780 --> 01:35:38,520
floor for private dances.

1563
01:35:41,850 --> 01:35:50,070
The skin flute they say that you
weren't over modulating as much

1564
01:35:50,070 --> 01:35:52,590
as I would have liked you to but
otherwise good good kickoff of

1565
01:35:52,590 --> 01:35:53,130
the segment.

1566
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:54,750
Okay, I'll work on yeah, good

1567
01:35:54,750 --> 01:35:55,500
work. Good work.

1568
01:35:56,070 --> 01:35:58,830
It's an all mentioned they all
mentioned I think. Yeah, I think

1569
01:35:58,830 --> 01:36:02,040
you got them all in there. Well,
I may have left out hit

1570
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:08,520
somebody. Anyway. Okay. That's
our 111 11 will improve or came

1571
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:11,610
up with this. Me is going on
with her health thank yous.

1572
01:36:12,630 --> 01:36:16,620
Daniel How is in Portland,
Maine. $100 East Coast crackpot

1573
01:36:16,980 --> 01:36:25,200
sir gear $100 from Oslo Norway.
Andrew Lim Mansur Lim met I

1574
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:30,030
always get this wrong some
Andrew LEM Dasani. missiny la

1575
01:36:30,030 --> 01:36:34,440
Messonnier Hey love messenger at
910 Colorado Springs Baron

1576
01:36:34,440 --> 01:36:40,740
Robert Gosh go and Sherwood
Park, Alberta 7777 77 Lucky

1577
01:36:40,740 --> 01:36:44,700
sevens jerris Corporation lucky
sevens from Arlington, Virginia

1578
01:36:44,700 --> 01:36:49,530
Matthew Mongan in Hampshire,
Maryland. Lucky sevens David

1579
01:36:49,530 --> 01:36:53,250
Overbeck 7773 from Brookfield,
Wisconsin,

1580
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,470
he had a note that I wanted to
read I want to drop this motto

1581
01:36:55,470 --> 01:36:58,890
7773 is a double reverse PR
mentioned for the seventh guest

1582
01:36:58,890 --> 01:37:02,790
three Kickstarter. The seventh
guest was the killer app for the

1583
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:05,820
CD ROM and now they've got the
original actor who played stuff

1584
01:37:06,210 --> 01:37:08,820
and the original music to make a
third instalment in the series.

1585
01:37:08,820 --> 01:37:11,490
I use this as an opportunity to
hit the backers of the seventh

1586
01:37:11,490 --> 01:37:14,430
guest three in the mouth for the
no agenda show. Now I'd like to

1587
01:37:14,430 --> 01:37:16,770
ask if any of your listeners
were fans of the game to check

1588
01:37:16,770 --> 01:37:20,940
out the Kickstarter for the
seventh guest three. And David

1589
01:37:20,940 --> 01:37:24,630
is of course a knight and also
executive producer of the no

1590
01:37:24,630 --> 01:37:27,690
agenda stream he goes way back
Sir David Overbeck Thank you,

1591
01:37:27,810 --> 01:37:31,620
sir. Overbeck 1616 I

1592
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:38,550
only have two of these folks
Ignacio Perez in Madrid. Make

1593
01:37:38,550 --> 01:37:42,840
Nashville Garcia I see is this
this is our boy miss our boy. He

1594
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:45,870
did send us a note recently.
Brink trying to bring us up to

1595
01:37:45,870 --> 01:37:49,530
speed he's he's an architect.
And he's asked to leave Spain to

1596
01:37:49,530 --> 01:37:50,130
get work.

1597
01:37:50,310 --> 01:37:51,780
That's meant where's he going?

1598
01:37:52,260 --> 01:37:58,710
I don't know. Wow. Italy I think
I think he should go to South

1599
01:37:58,710 --> 01:37:59,190
America.

1600
01:37:59,220 --> 01:38:00,960
Yes, his birthday tomorrow. So
we're gonna put them on the

1601
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:02,790
list. Josh

1602
01:38:02,849 --> 01:38:07,769
Morris in Kearney, Missouri
6969. And that closes the second

1603
01:38:08,789 --> 01:38:17,279
69 $64.13 from Craig dam low in
Everett, Washington. And then

1604
01:38:17,279 --> 01:38:22,859
finally $50 donations from
Brandon sieve why Savoy? Parts

1605
01:38:22,859 --> 01:38:26,489
Unknown Mike Westerfield Parts
Unknown Matt Seaver Knoxville,

1606
01:38:26,489 --> 01:38:30,329
Tennessee, Charles Evans in Lake
Zurich, Illinois and finally

1607
01:38:30,329 --> 01:38:35,609
sicko V. Alexander, or
Alexander's case may be in

1608
01:38:35,609 --> 01:38:41,429
Moscow, Russia, aka Oh, yeah.
Those are our folks that helped

1609
01:38:41,429 --> 01:38:44,099
us on show. 565

1610
01:38:44,130 --> 01:38:49,350
That's right. Thank you all so
much. I'm very happy with

1611
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:52,170
today's turnout. Remember, we do
this twice a week. So we're

1612
01:38:52,170 --> 01:38:54,720
looking at you know, you sent a
newsletter and what did you

1613
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:59,970
like? Uh, you were supposed to
give us the economic hitman

1614
01:39:00,270 --> 01:39:01,440
thing in the newsletter.

1615
01:39:01,590 --> 01:39:04,260
Yeah, I was editing it and
editing it and then time was

1616
01:39:04,260 --> 01:39:06,540
gone by and I saw I better ship
this newsletter. So I'm gonna

1617
01:39:06,540 --> 01:39:09,060
put it on the Sunday newsletter.
So if anyone doesn't get the

1618
01:39:09,060 --> 01:39:10,710
newsletter should subscribe
today.

1619
01:39:10,740 --> 01:39:14,280
Okay, I was gonna call you out
as an Indian giver. But um, um,

1620
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:16,050
I'll hold back.

1621
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:20,130
But I'm not from India. For
starters, I do have an Indian

1622
01:39:20,130 --> 01:39:20,940
story though.

1623
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:28,860
Now homeless thing. We have a
lot of stuff to do. So me, so I

1624
01:39:29,670 --> 01:39:31,710
said it. I set it I say by the
way,

1625
01:39:31,710 --> 01:39:35,520
let's wait. Let's wait. Let's
stop. Now. Stop. We've got to

1626
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:39,390
thank this guy from cigar
journey. Yes, every show for the

1627
01:39:39,390 --> 01:39:39,720
last

1628
01:39:39,839 --> 01:39:43,199
year. We're like, hey, we forgot
to thank the cigar guy.

1629
01:39:44,190 --> 01:39:47,970
And gangly who is the editor of
cigar journal which is a really

1630
01:39:47,970 --> 01:39:54,090
good magazine sent us a
selection of what our I guess

1631
01:39:54,090 --> 01:39:57,420
semi famous or famous cigars
that are now in the market. And

1632
01:39:57,420 --> 01:40:01,320
with this cool little thing
inside which was a A little pad

1633
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:05,040
of CES humidor thing. Yeah,
yeah, it's like automatic. So

1634
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,590
you can use anything and you
throw this little bag in there.

1635
01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:08,910
It's like an automatic humidor.

1636
01:40:08,940 --> 01:40:11,790
I gotta tell you a funny story
about this. So I remember when I

1637
01:40:11,790 --> 01:40:16,800
had ordered from the Silk Road
before, down before Yeah.

1638
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:21,540
So I was at the FQ Banos on
there. No, but I was so

1639
01:40:21,630 --> 01:40:26,610
you know, I was expecting my my
order to come and I had no idea

1640
01:40:26,610 --> 01:40:29,610
how it arrives. You know, if and
it says well, we'll send it to

1641
01:40:29,610 --> 01:40:34,320
you stealth whatever that meant.
And so this this package shows

1642
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:38,490
up with cigars in it. I'm like,
wow, this is a great way to ship

1643
01:40:38,490 --> 01:40:43,470
the drugs. And I swear to God,
it took me half an hour of going

1644
01:40:43,470 --> 01:40:47,790
like Well, where's the drugs? To
figure out that it was just

1645
01:40:47,790 --> 01:40:52,860
cigars? I thought it was like
wow, this is a really of course

1646
01:40:52,860 --> 01:40:56,040
the dogs will never sniff it
like that. Yeah, but it was

1647
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:57,120
actually just a cigars

1648
01:40:57,150 --> 01:41:00,960
and his name's Ganly I think it
makes it family but anyway, it's

1649
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:03,450
highly appreciated man thank God
it is funny though. I could just

1650
01:41:03,450 --> 01:41:05,250
imagine you're expecting because
it would that would be as

1651
01:41:05,250 --> 01:41:08,850
stealthy as it gets. When do you
do you would be tempted to tear

1652
01:41:08,850 --> 01:41:09,390
into one of the

1653
01:41:10,020 --> 01:41:12,480
snapping them open? Like where
is it? It's gotta be in here

1654
01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:15,390
clip not in this one. Now
actually, I smoked a couple of

1655
01:41:15,390 --> 01:41:18,540
those cigars with I think one
with Sir Jean and one with the

1656
01:41:18,750 --> 01:41:23,970
with Mike. Yeah. Mike, your
producer, Mike. Jane. The ones

1657
01:41:23,970 --> 01:41:28,200
we smoked. Yeah, but I don't
smoke anymore. So we had a

1658
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,840
whiskey and then you have you
know, you have a smoke is nice.

1659
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,000
Yeah, of course. It's like it's
a whole ritual. And these are

1660
01:41:33,030 --> 01:41:36,360
and they're good tasting cigars.
But it's been a while since I've

1661
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:40,560
been you know, fully cognac goes
well with the goods for

1662
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:45,990
art.org/na donate enough to be
tonight some day.

1663
01:41:53,190 --> 01:41:56,100
All right, Jakub Kravitz
congratulates his wife Ana,

1664
01:41:56,100 --> 01:42:01,500
celebrating on the 16th. That'll
be on Saturday. Dame Joni Joan

1665
01:42:01,500 --> 01:42:03,900
daughter Frey congratulates her
husband Alex who celebrates

1666
01:42:03,900 --> 01:42:09,180
today and bad mom Joan, Happy
belated birthday to son to son

1667
01:42:09,180 --> 01:42:12,810
sir Max who celebrated last
Thursday. I'm sure he'll forgive

1668
01:42:12,810 --> 01:42:17,310
you eventually. Then we have
Ignacio got to CFN is

1669
01:42:17,340 --> 01:42:20,010
celebrating on Friday. And
that'll be tomorrow. Happy

1670
01:42:20,010 --> 01:42:23,640
Birthday and Luke Reiner turns
31 on Friday as well, happy

1671
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:26,400
birthday from all your pals hear
the best podcast in the

1672
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:31,290
universe. And then we have a
knighthood which is long time

1673
01:42:31,290 --> 01:42:34,650
coming. I I'm surprised. We
probably should have noted this

1674
01:42:34,650 --> 01:42:37,830
guy a long time ago considering
how much he's helped out the

1675
01:42:37,830 --> 01:42:43,110
show. But now he is alerted us
to his monetary contribution. So

1676
01:42:43,350 --> 01:42:46,740
you can grab the long blade
John, this is a long time coming

1677
01:42:47,370 --> 01:42:51,780
for Warner here. So we're gonna
flip step forward, sir, we are

1678
01:42:51,780 --> 01:42:56,220
very proud to welcome you to the
round table where we have all of

1679
01:42:56,220 --> 01:43:03,150
our Knights and Dames and we
gladly pronounce you, sir. The

1680
01:43:03,150 --> 01:43:07,560
Wi Fi nights come on down for
your opium and warm orange juice

1681
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:10,500
your hookers and blow your red
boys and Chardonnay if you

1682
01:43:10,500 --> 01:43:12,630
happen to be in that hot pants
of booze, long hair heavy metal

1683
01:43:12,630 --> 01:43:15,000
guys and Scotch Rubenesque
lemonade Rosae gauges and sakeI

1684
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,880
vodka, vanilla ball nicks and
bourbon sparkling cider escorts

1685
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:21,600
or maybe you just want some
mutton in need and go to no

1686
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:27,300
agenda nation.com/rings Get your
rings it's your ring your well

1687
01:43:27,300 --> 01:43:31,800
deserved ring and thank you
again for supporting our

1688
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:34,440
programme although we never win
the award we are

1689
01:43:39,480 --> 01:43:42,450
don't understand why they this
is the the we have like the

1690
01:43:42,450 --> 01:43:45,900
categories people were in
people's choice and news. You

1691
01:43:45,900 --> 01:43:50,100
can't have a popularity contest.
You can in the People's Choice

1692
01:43:50,100 --> 01:43:52,680
Awards of course that's what
it's for you have everyone votes

1693
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,770
and you get the award that's
kind of what the Golden Globes I

1694
01:43:55,770 --> 01:43:58,980
believe it that way. But if
you're gonna do the other ones,

1695
01:43:58,980 --> 01:44:02,520
they have to be judged by
somebody who's a judge

1696
01:44:02,550 --> 01:44:06,270
your peers. Yeah. Or you know,
well, no, the whole thing is a

1697
01:44:06,270 --> 01:44:07,470
popularity contest.

1698
01:44:07,620 --> 01:44:10,530
Yeah, but you have all of them
as a popularity contest is

1699
01:44:10,530 --> 01:44:12,450
ludicrous. Because the guy with

1700
01:44:13,740 --> 01:44:17,220
some it's been going on for six
years now. Now all of a sudden

1701
01:44:17,220 --> 01:44:18,300
you're questioning how they

1702
01:44:19,620 --> 01:44:21,600
are paying attention because
I've been questioning this all

1703
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:26,700
along. I'm not paying attention.
But whoever has the best bought

1704
01:44:26,700 --> 01:44:33,510
wins so it should be just award
for the best bought. Okay, I'm

1705
01:44:33,510 --> 01:44:37,380
not going to argue. So I'm
looking@msn.com which still

1706
01:44:37,380 --> 01:44:41,280
exists actually shows up once in
a while I helped launch that.

1707
01:44:42,270 --> 01:44:46,860
Yeah, well, thanks for nothing.
So all it is is this is the way

1708
01:44:46,860 --> 01:44:50,370
the news made the mainstream
media's headed this way. It's

1709
01:44:50,370 --> 01:44:55,140
like let me just read you want
to click on this stuff like

1710
01:44:55,170 --> 01:44:57,030
that. We're just gonna give you
some the here's the editors

1711
01:44:57,030 --> 01:44:59,970
picks. I'm just gonna read you
the little headline is, man

1712
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,800
guilty and $100 million vets
fraud pick. No depression

1713
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:11,400
speeds, ageing questionmark
Death Row organ donors fear

1714
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:18,480
Yeah, click this, the scrunchie
makes a return. Oh, brother Andy

1715
01:45:18,480 --> 01:45:25,230
Kaufman's alive. Click, see Cole
swallows back yard,

1716
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,350
man. Okay, this is News, News,

1717
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:34,440
News. And as you go down to the
photo news you got act who wants

1718
01:45:34,440 --> 01:45:39,900
to expand racial profiling
lawsuit. Shields to join Fox

1719
01:45:39,900 --> 01:45:43,410
show is Kris Jenner ready to
date?

1720
01:45:43,530 --> 01:45:46,980
Have you seen the did you get
the memo that Kris Jenner I mean

1721
01:45:46,980 --> 01:45:52,680
that Bruce Jenner wants to
transgender? No, that's

1722
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:59,520
Kenny has a womanish. Look, I
know. But that, by the way stems

1723
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:02,070
from I'm absolutely sure you had
a vasectomy because there's a

1724
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:04,440
certain look, I'm gonna explain
it. Yeah.

1725
01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:09,120
Wait a minute, you're gonna tell
me the guys who have a vasectomy

1726
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:10,200
get a certain look?

1727
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:14,220
Yes, they do. And let me let me
I'm gonna give you the premise

1728
01:46:14,220 --> 01:46:19,590
for this thing. Okay. I had a
book in my collection. And it

1729
01:46:19,590 --> 01:46:24,690
was printed around 1927 or
219 29. That era. And it was the

1730
01:46:24,690 --> 01:46:28,830
name of the book was look young
forever. And it was a

1731
01:46:28,830 --> 01:46:33,360
promotional book. Typical Greer
shit that was going on in the

1732
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:37,950
20s. This was the eugenics era,
a promotional book for getting

1733
01:46:37,950 --> 01:46:42,450
vasectomies as a youth as a
major way to make men look

1734
01:46:42,450 --> 01:46:46,500
younger when they're old. And
they shed the before and after

1735
01:46:46,500 --> 01:46:49,170
pictures of all these men who
had vasectomies, which was, I

1736
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:54,060
guess, a new procedure back in
the 20s. Or whenever it came

1737
01:46:54,060 --> 01:46:56,790
about is when this book came
out, and I think their original

1738
01:46:56,790 --> 01:46:59,970
purpose of the vasectomy was for
this purpose was for like a

1739
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,780
facelift. I'm not saying they
sell it. And every look of these

1740
01:47:03,780 --> 01:47:09,810
guys always had this kind of
kind of a plumper, smoother,

1741
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:13,980
definitely smoother, kind of
womanly face, kind of like a

1742
01:47:13,980 --> 01:47:18,570
female face. And I started
noticing people actually had

1743
01:47:18,570 --> 01:47:21,390
vasectomies with rare exceptions
once in a while. There's a guy

1744
01:47:21,390 --> 01:47:25,020
that that exception to the rule,
but most of them always have

1745
01:47:25,020 --> 01:47:30,660
this kind of certain. The pasty
kind of dopey face look.

1746
01:47:31,050 --> 01:47:33,300
That is a totally Jenner. Yeah,

1747
01:47:33,690 --> 01:47:37,380
that is that is a first SEC
dummy look. And Jenner is one of

1748
01:47:37,380 --> 01:47:40,380
these guys that has that look, I
don't know he's his look is

1749
01:47:40,380 --> 01:47:40,710
really,

1750
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:43,260
but I know guys who have had
vasectomy and they don't have

1751
01:47:43,260 --> 01:47:44,640
that look at all your day.

1752
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:47,520
You have not thought about it
much. And some guys say they

1753
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:49,800
have expected me for some reason
or other. I

1754
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,710
know the guys on the there's
like a morning show here. And I

1755
01:47:52,710 --> 01:47:57,300
went on that morning show. Yeah.
And, and one of their sponsors,

1756
01:47:57,690 --> 01:47:59,670
is a doctor and I guess you
know, this is what you have to

1757
01:47:59,670 --> 01:48:05,790
do in morning radio. Oh, this is
really good. Morning to you. Oh,

1758
01:48:05,790 --> 01:48:10,140
have a vasectomy. And then of
course he had to do it. Oh, god.

1759
01:48:10,170 --> 01:48:13,830
Yeah. And he said it was it was
he said it was like, it sucked

1760
01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:19,950
for a couple days, but I don't
know. anymore. Let's move. Yes.

1761
01:48:20,010 --> 01:48:21,510
Uh huh. Let's move along,
please.

1762
01:48:21,540 --> 01:48:24,120
Okay. Anyway, so that means
saying this is the kind of news

1763
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:26,160
that's out there. But no, I
don't know anything about Bruce

1764
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,010
Jenner wanting to have, of
course, after being on that show

1765
01:48:29,010 --> 01:48:31,470
for a while I can understand it.
So looking

1766
01:48:31,470 --> 01:48:38,910
at so I said, so. Looking at the
exchanges, and I need to bring

1767
01:48:38,910 --> 01:48:41,460
this up because people need to
understand what's going on.

1768
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:46,170
There's a lot of Bitcoin news,
Bitcoin Yeah. Well into the

1769
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:48,150
we need a jingle for the Bitcoin
report.

1770
01:48:48,179 --> 01:48:51,719
We do. We do. And I'd like to
explain to people how this

1771
01:48:51,719 --> 01:48:57,209
works. Because the I'm kind of
flabbergasted John that no one

1772
01:48:57,209 --> 01:49:02,399
really sees the scam for what it
is. When you run the exchange,

1773
01:49:02,429 --> 01:49:05,849
you determine the price. This is
not NASDAQ. This is not

1774
01:49:05,849 --> 01:49:09,719
regulated by the SEC. In fact,
there's there's so many

1775
01:49:09,719 --> 01:49:12,839
exchanges now and this is where
the money is. If you look at the

1776
01:49:12,839 --> 01:49:17,009
bid and the ask, if you want to
sell your bitcoins, you can you

1777
01:49:17,009 --> 01:49:19,859
can get about 390 for them, if
you want to buy them Well now

1778
01:49:19,859 --> 01:49:24,269
you're at 440. That's called the
spread and that's outrageous to

1779
01:49:24,269 --> 01:49:28,439
bid. That's outrageous, of
course. That's outrageous. And

1780
01:49:28,439 --> 01:49:32,579
you see and everyone's getting
in on it now. In fact, circle

1781
01:49:32,579 --> 01:49:37,619
internet financial, just got a
pretty heavy hitter. They

1782
01:49:37,649 --> 01:49:41,729
brought him onto the board of
directors Raj dot date, I think

1783
01:49:41,729 --> 01:49:45,119
his name is they're going to
start an exchange, you've got to

1784
01:49:45,149 --> 01:49:48,239
Ibet everyone's launching an
exchange because that's where

1785
01:49:48,239 --> 01:49:51,899
the money is. And you get to set
the price and you get to rip

1786
01:49:51,899 --> 01:49:56,249
everybody off this ice. It's
like this is such a beautiful

1787
01:49:57,989 --> 01:50:03,149
scam. It's truly is so well
thought out that I'm not

1788
01:50:03,149 --> 01:50:05,879
thinking that the bitcoin is
actually, you know, there's not

1789
01:50:05,879 --> 01:50:09,809
going to be any scam with with
the Bitcoin itself. Because

1790
01:50:09,809 --> 01:50:12,299
that's solid, I guess the
cryptography and how it's done

1791
01:50:12,299 --> 01:50:15,509
is solid, but he's exchanges,
this thing's gonna go to 1000

1792
01:50:15,539 --> 01:50:19,319
It'll be 1000 before the end of
the year, and it'll go beyond

1793
01:50:19,319 --> 01:50:23,459
that there's no downside, and
you put any of your trading on

1794
01:50:23,459 --> 01:50:26,879
the exchange, you know, there's
always a delay, or like, oh,

1795
01:50:26,879 --> 01:50:30,029
sorry, you know, the system's
down. Yeah, and the system comes

1796
01:50:30,029 --> 01:50:33,539
back up, and the price
difference is 20 bucks, guess

1797
01:50:33,539 --> 01:50:37,049
who makes the money? I'm just
astounded that people don't see

1798
01:50:37,049 --> 01:50:38,069
what's going on here.

1799
01:50:40,650 --> 01:50:42,990
Well, the whole thing is a scam.

1800
01:50:43,650 --> 01:50:47,670
Right? But it's so well done.
It's a psychological pie.

1801
01:50:47,670 --> 01:50:51,270
What I like about it, what I
really enjoy the most is how the

1802
01:50:51,270 --> 01:50:54,180
all the techies are all in?

1803
01:50:54,570 --> 01:50:57,000
Well, this this is this is kind
of where I wanted to take it

1804
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:00,720
because someone found out and I
think Bitcoin is probably the

1805
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:04,350
best example of it. But the
nuclear guys also know how to

1806
01:51:04,350 --> 01:51:07,800
play the alternative media and
the and the Libertarians and the

1807
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:12,330
geeky people like us, which we
are to some degree and we're we

1808
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:18,180
touch all of those areas, and
are taking advantage of us in in

1809
01:51:18,210 --> 01:51:23,070
really almost a disgusting way.
Because you know, the, the hard

1810
01:51:23,070 --> 01:51:25,620
core member when we did the hate
we got about Bitcoin in the

1811
01:51:25,620 --> 01:51:31,080
beginning when we were laughing
about it. He was like, You can't

1812
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:34,950
run a store with the prices
changing every 10 minutes,

1813
01:51:35,370 --> 01:51:39,330
veering to 10 or $20. You can't
you can't do that you can't be

1814
01:51:39,330 --> 01:51:42,120
competitive. You can't be
changing your prices all the

1815
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:46,050
time. This is crazy. This is not
a monetary unit. It is a great

1816
01:51:46,050 --> 01:51:49,530
scam. And I'm and I pretty much
suspect Max Keiser of being you

1817
01:51:49,530 --> 01:51:53,190
know, he sold his Hollywood
exchange. He's built exchanges,

1818
01:51:53,220 --> 01:51:58,230
he must be behind one of them.
Yeah, no, he has to be. And so

1819
01:51:58,230 --> 01:52:01,260
it's the exact same, same
software, I

1820
01:52:01,260 --> 01:52:03,720
bet you if you can get to that
code all might be Yeah, you

1821
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:09,750
could find some, sometimes
similar. Forensic code tracker

1822
01:52:09,750 --> 01:52:11,760
could probably figure out who
wrote this thing.

1823
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:16,290
Now, something else happened
yesterday, which I think is also

1824
01:52:16,290 --> 01:52:21,090
a psychological operation, which
hits exactly the same people,

1825
01:52:21,570 --> 01:52:26,580
and is a huge is actually very,
very smartly done. So what

1826
01:52:26,580 --> 01:52:33,390
happened is yesterday, WikiLeaks
leaked. And if you download the

1827
01:52:33,390 --> 01:52:41,070
document, it even says secret
TPP treaty. Okay, so now, you

1828
01:52:41,070 --> 01:52:41,910
know

1829
01:52:41,940 --> 01:52:44,130
that I talked about the TPP
before?

1830
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:47,250
Well, not so we've talked about
the T tip?

1831
01:52:47,790 --> 01:52:50,010
No, no, we've talked about the
TPP. We have talked about it.

1832
01:52:50,460 --> 01:52:53,100
I've talked about it, because I
talked about when Putin was

1833
01:52:53,100 --> 01:52:56,070
having a meeting with these
guys. And all the rest of it. We

1834
01:52:56,070 --> 01:52:58,530
have discussed this this
operation, we didn't have the

1835
01:52:58,530 --> 01:52:59,670
details, right?

1836
01:53:00,180 --> 01:53:03,360
Well, we've had a draft version,
but here's what's interesting.

1837
01:53:04,650 --> 01:53:11,190
We don't get the entire TPP we
get one chapter. And we get the

1838
01:53:11,190 --> 01:53:16,470
intellectual property, quote
unquote, internet freedoms, and

1839
01:53:16,470 --> 01:53:21,000
copyright chapter, which is the
only thing people on the

1840
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:25,110
internet who are activists care
about. And so this thing comes

1841
01:53:25,110 --> 01:53:27,420
out and of course, you know, me,
I'm like, Oh, great, I'm gonna

1842
01:53:27,420 --> 01:53:31,350
read this. And I'm going through
it. I'm like, holy crap, this is

1843
01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:37,050
completely unusable. It is every
single line, every single

1844
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:42,840
proposal has five to 15
opposition's counter proposals

1845
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:45,840
by each country to the this is,
you know, it's an ongoing

1846
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:49,410
conversation is what this is.
And it's it's like, here's the

1847
01:53:49,410 --> 01:53:53,550
conversation is like, well,
America has copyright at 70

1848
01:53:53,550 --> 01:53:57,780
years after death, and Mexico
wants it to be 100. But sweet.

1849
01:53:57,780 --> 01:54:03,870
No, but Venezuela or some other
country wants to be 95. It's

1850
01:54:03,870 --> 01:54:12,540
like, which, who gives a crap?
But en que en que everybody has

1851
01:54:12,540 --> 01:54:19,350
their has their their analysis
ready? So here is Electronic

1852
01:54:19,350 --> 01:54:24,780
Frontier Foundation, and I read
this document, really, so here's

1853
01:54:24,780 --> 01:54:28,410
how they, so they they took one
day to read it, which is what

1854
01:54:28,410 --> 01:54:34,260
took me t p p li confirms the
worst. US negotiators still

1855
01:54:34,260 --> 01:54:40,080
trying to trade away internet
freedoms. All right. WikiLeaks

1856
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:43,650
is compromised and eff was
compromised, and they're all

1857
01:54:43,650 --> 01:54:46,890
working together. And the only
thing I can find is this is a

1858
01:54:46,890 --> 01:54:52,200
red herring. So everybody's
focused on the wrong thing. Do

1859
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:55,860
you think that copyright and
internet freedoms is important?

1860
01:54:56,670 --> 01:54:58,770
If you're going to be you're
going to be running around like

1861
01:54:58,770 --> 01:55:03,510
SOPA changing your eye con TPP
New World duty Mimi meet Nia

1862
01:55:03,510 --> 01:55:09,030
what's happening is the gas you
idiots. It's all about the gas

1863
01:55:09,030 --> 01:55:13,230
to Japan and to Asia. And what
they don't want you to do is see

1864
01:55:13,230 --> 01:55:17,070
that the real negotiation the 20
other chapters that WikiLeaks

1865
01:55:17,070 --> 01:55:20,820
couldn't get their hands on.
That's where you're going to

1866
01:55:20,820 --> 01:55:25,320
wind up with 50% of us gas
production, which will crack

1867
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:28,620
you, which will give you make
your faucet burn, which will

1868
01:55:28,620 --> 01:55:33,240
give you earthquakes from your
super leftist obat. Green

1869
01:55:33,270 --> 01:55:36,660
president. That's the part
that's being covered up, you're

1870
01:55:36,660 --> 01:55:40,560
focused in the wrong area. Of
course, it's a New World Order

1871
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:43,980
document. But this is just to
distract you and keep you busy

1872
01:55:43,980 --> 01:55:47,880
and make you change your, your
avatar. This is not what is

1873
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:52,080
really important. And this
document, please trade away

1874
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:55,980
internet freedoms, even the EFF
couldn't point in much in the

1875
01:55:55,980 --> 01:55:59,970
document. They have all this
here. The link chapter features

1876
01:55:59,970 --> 01:56:03,330
proposals for sending a new
floor for copyright duration,

1877
01:56:03,510 --> 01:56:06,870
ranging from the already
problematic us term of life of

1878
01:56:06,870 --> 01:56:10,800
the author plus 70 years to an
incredible life of the author

1879
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:16,380
plus 100 years proposed by
Mexico. This is this is what

1880
01:56:16,380 --> 01:56:21,120
you're worried about, by the
way. What's wrong with that? You

1881
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:24,960
have no copyrights, I don't mind
holding on to my copyrights a

1882
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:28,230
little bit longer. Oh, no evil
Disney, we don't get to use the

1883
01:56:28,230 --> 01:56:33,360
mouse. So why is that important?
John, am I missing something

1884
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:36,750
here, that's not to give you
votes I have, please give me

1885
01:56:36,750 --> 01:56:37,320
both sides,

1886
01:56:37,349 --> 01:56:41,549
I have the various feelings
about this myself. First of all,

1887
01:56:41,549 --> 01:56:45,149
the idea that copyrights are
limited to 26 years and possibly

1888
01:56:45,179 --> 01:56:49,799
from the date of creation, not
the day you die. So if you wrote

1889
01:56:49,799 --> 01:56:54,359
something when you're you know,
in your 20s, and you live to be

1890
01:56:54,359 --> 01:56:59,309
100, this thing would be in
copyright forever. Virtually,

1891
01:56:59,519 --> 01:57:02,699
the idea is that it is 26 years,
and then you could maybe renew

1892
01:57:02,699 --> 01:57:05,219
it there that was actually given
to you it is in the

1893
01:57:05,219 --> 01:57:09,329
Constitution. Essentially, you
can renew it for another 26

1894
01:57:09,329 --> 01:57:13,049
years if you felt that the need
to most people did not feel the

1895
01:57:13,049 --> 01:57:18,869
need to. So after 20 The idea
was that at 26 years, art, this

1896
01:57:18,899 --> 01:57:23,729
applies to more than just
writing art. Cartoons would be

1897
01:57:23,729 --> 01:57:24,329
included in

1898
01:57:24,330 --> 01:57:27,180
our photo grammes, as it has,
it's constantly referred to in

1899
01:57:27,180 --> 01:57:28,740
the document phonograms

1900
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:34,230
records. In other words, music
and also writing would be pushed

1901
01:57:34,230 --> 01:57:38,070
into the public domain. So it
could be enjoyed by everybody

1902
01:57:38,070 --> 01:57:41,940
while it was still alive. And it
would influence the culture in a

1903
01:57:41,940 --> 01:57:45,690
positive direction. And so you
want your copyrights to expire

1904
01:57:45,690 --> 01:57:47,550
at the end, the guys shouldn't
be able to if you can't make

1905
01:57:47,550 --> 01:57:53,220
your money in 26 to 52 years,
renewing, if you can't make your

1906
01:57:53,220 --> 01:57:55,710
money, your personal money for
your creation in that period of

1907
01:57:55,710 --> 01:57:57,540
time, well, then you're a loser.

1908
01:57:59,190 --> 01:58:00,810
Maybe your song just suck.

1909
01:58:01,740 --> 01:58:05,670
They figure well, what can we do
to make to milk this. So the

1910
01:58:05,670 --> 01:58:08,460
Disney guys are behind most of
this, they change the law so

1911
01:58:08,460 --> 01:58:12,000
they could keep their mouse and
protect their dura, which they

1912
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:14,880
could do anyway with a
trademark. So it's not even that

1913
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:17,010
important. But whatever the case
was, they didn't want people

1914
01:58:17,130 --> 01:58:26,370
redistributing Sleeping Beauty
on TV. Okay, now wait, wait. Now

1915
01:58:26,370 --> 01:58:31,200
on the other hand, as a
copyright, somebody who produces

1916
01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:34,710
content, I think it's kind of
cool if I can I own this

1917
01:58:34,710 --> 01:58:39,060
forever. And you my kids can
benefit from it after I'd 100

1918
01:58:39,060 --> 01:58:42,600
years after I'm dead. You know,
that's a Rich's good greedy

1919
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:46,410
perspective. Right? And it's but
it's not good for the society.

1920
01:58:46,410 --> 01:58:50,250
It was, the idea was that it's
good for the society to

1921
01:58:50,370 --> 01:58:54,900
incorporate public domain things
into their into the structure of

1922
01:58:54,900 --> 01:58:55,500
the future.

1923
01:58:55,920 --> 01:59:00,810
But let's move let's move beyond
this. What you know, but what I

1924
01:59:00,810 --> 01:59:05,820
take away what I object to, is,
first of all reporting, like

1925
01:59:05,820 --> 01:59:09,210
it's set in stone, which is not,
we're talking about things that

1926
01:59:09,210 --> 01:59:14,490
have been hashed out for years,
70 years, 95 years old. Okay,

1927
01:59:14,670 --> 01:59:18,810
but it's not like this is a new
debate. This, but the way this

1928
01:59:18,810 --> 01:59:23,640
is being presented, is the New
World Order is taking away our

1929
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:28,110
internet. And if you read the
documents, it's kind of similar

1930
01:59:28,110 --> 01:59:30,840
to what we have already. You
know, there's some, you know,

1931
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:33,570
there's lots of there's lots of
fair use, you know, there's talk

1932
01:59:33,570 --> 01:59:38,940
about the about ISPs being you
know, you can have the like the

1933
01:59:38,940 --> 01:59:43,710
DCMA So, if you're just a
vessel, you know, a carrier then

1934
01:59:43,710 --> 01:59:45,990
you're then you're not
responsible for what's on there.

1935
01:59:45,990 --> 01:59:49,560
I mean, it's all it's all kind
of the same, the same stuff. But

1936
01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:53,730
this is being presented. As you
know, this is what it's all

1937
01:59:53,730 --> 01:59:59,190
about, and I'm seeing people
literally posting links, this is

1938
01:59:59,190 --> 02:00:01,770
worth a read because we're being
screwed.

1939
02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:04,770
Not you're not, hey, that was my
link.

1940
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:09,390
First of all, you haven't read
it. Because you want to slice

1941
02:00:09,390 --> 02:00:13,860
your wrists halfway through.
It's so boring. And it's so

1942
02:00:13,860 --> 02:00:17,850
repetitive. And yeah, you know,
sure there's some stuff in there

1943
02:00:17,850 --> 02:00:23,250
about, about patents on drugs.
But it's not like it's anything

1944
02:00:23,250 --> 02:00:28,500
new. The real deal here is, is
Oh, so much bigger, and it's

1945
02:00:28,500 --> 02:00:32,580
going to wreck our Earth. And
that's, that's what makes me

1946
02:00:32,580 --> 02:00:34,770
laugh is that people don't
understand that they're being

1947
02:00:34,770 --> 02:00:38,550
tricked. This is not a leak.
This is the purpose release.

1948
02:00:38,550 --> 02:00:42,810
This is this is like, like, oh,
yeah, oh, I'm sorry, Lady Gaga

1949
02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:45,930
album got leaked two days before
it was supposed to come out.

1950
02:00:46,530 --> 02:00:47,970
This is a PR move.

1951
02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:50,580
Yeah, no, I'm not gonna argue
with it. Because where's the

1952
02:00:50,580 --> 02:00:54,630
rest of the document where they
somehow would glommed onto one

1953
02:00:54,630 --> 02:00:55,200
thing.

1954
02:00:55,440 --> 02:01:00,540
And EFF is out the same day with
this whole. And really, they

1955
02:01:00,540 --> 02:01:02,880
talk about all these things that
are wrong with the patent

1956
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:06,930
system, and copyright and but
they can't point to it in the

1957
02:01:06,930 --> 02:01:11,040
document because it's really not
there. That's that's what I'm,

1958
02:01:11,370 --> 02:01:15,060
and then there's this. The
agreement claims not to confine

1959
02:01:15,060 --> 02:01:17,790
copyright limitations and
exceptions further than earlier

1960
02:01:17,790 --> 02:01:21,120
deals such as Berne Convention,
but early analysis from groups

1961
02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:27,030
like knowledge, ecology,
International. Now knowledge,

1962
02:01:27,060 --> 02:01:32,850
ecology International, who are
these guys? They're funded by

1963
02:01:32,850 --> 02:01:37,290
Rockefeller MacArthur
Foundation, the EFF was pointing

1964
02:01:37,290 --> 02:01:45,840
to these guys seriously.
MacArthur grant and they also

1965
02:01:45,870 --> 02:01:47,310
really can only pointing

1966
02:01:47,310 --> 02:01:50,490
and mending the knowledge
ecosystem.

1967
02:01:53,310 --> 02:01:57,150
Knowledge, ecology International
is obtained from WikiLeaks, a

1968
02:01:57,150 --> 02:01:59,550
complete copy of the
consolidated negotiating text

1969
02:01:59,550 --> 02:02:02,880
for the IP chapter of the Trans
Pacific Pacific Partnership copy

1970
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:05,670
here on the WikiLeaks site, the
leaked text was destroyed among

1971
02:02:05,670 --> 02:02:08,520
the chief negotiators. And then
you know, they talk there's all

1972
02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:11,700
kinds of background but then
really doesn't get into anything

1973
02:02:11,730 --> 02:02:18,120
in the document itself. This is
what I'm so interested in it

1974
02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:22,530
because the document is met.
I've read it, John, you know, I

1975
02:02:22,530 --> 02:02:24,600
read this, you know, I read
these, you know, I hate the New

1976
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:25,200
World Order,

1977
02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:26,520
love reading this stuff.

1978
02:02:26,550 --> 02:02:30,000
I hate these guy hates
everything they stand for. When

1979
02:02:30,000 --> 02:02:32,610
I read this, I'm like, How can
you even make a report about

1980
02:02:32,610 --> 02:02:37,050
this? It's a negotiation. And
everyone has it. And it's

1981
02:02:37,050 --> 02:02:40,560
everyone has a little thing in
there. Venezuela wants, you

1982
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:43,620
know, wants it this way. And
Mexico wants it that way. And

1983
02:02:43,620 --> 02:02:48,330
then we have, you know, the
just, it's just crazy. It's not,

1984
02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:53,400
you're being fooled. Please go
ahead and read it, read it, then

1985
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:57,420
go and find all the things that
these great analysis point to.

1986
02:02:59,490 --> 02:03:05,220
Again, the KTI, guys 70 plus 70
years for natural persons, and

1987
02:03:05,220 --> 02:03:09,630
then oh, it's like Mexico wants
life plus 100 years. Whoo,

1988
02:03:09,630 --> 02:03:12,960
that's just crazy talk. Really,
this is what you're so upset

1989
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:16,500
about. So I think it's a red
herring. And I think it's been

1990
02:03:16,500 --> 02:03:17,970
set up by WikiLeaks.

1991
02:03:18,030 --> 02:03:20,250
Yeah, I think you've made your
point on the red herring part

1992
02:03:20,250 --> 02:03:23,550
now I'm I'm stuck on this
knowledge ecology international

1993
02:03:23,550 --> 02:03:26,310
site. And I see what they're
pointing to they're pointing to

1994
02:03:26,460 --> 02:03:32,640
the k e i analysis of WikiLeaks
of TPP IPR text from August

1995
02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:37,860
30 2013. So this has been this
is the data is sketchy. There's

1996
02:03:37,860 --> 02:03:38,670
a guy you're looking

1997
02:03:38,670 --> 02:03:41,280
at the right thing you're not
looking Oh, yeah, that is that

1998
02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:45,360
is what the yes that's guy
that's from the tech the text is

1999
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:48,510
from August 30. But this they
wrote this this has only just

2000
02:03:48,510 --> 02:03:49,680
been leaked, so this is why it's

2001
02:03:49,800 --> 02:03:52,350
just been leaked. It was leaked
on the 13th of November and

2002
02:03:52,350 --> 02:03:55,320
ended submitted and the guy who
wrote to analysis that they're

2003
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:58,350
all pointers, this guy had to
look him up now seeking to find

2004
02:03:58,350 --> 02:04:04,260
anything about him James love.
Really, James love NGO director,

2005
02:04:04,380 --> 02:04:07,650
James Packard, love is the
director of knowledge ecology

2006
02:04:07,650 --> 02:04:11,310
International, firmly, oh, wait
a minute. This is good. These

2007
02:04:11,310 --> 02:04:14,490
guys. These guys are formally
known as the consumer project on

2008
02:04:14,490 --> 02:04:19,620
technology. Oh, there you go.
And not an NGO with offices in

2009
02:04:19,620 --> 02:04:21,750
Washington, DC and Geneva.

2010
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:24,540
I'm telling you, these guys are
the New World Order and they're

2011
02:04:24,540 --> 02:04:29,940
tricking you. Let's look at
their Wiki at their Wikipedia

2012
02:04:29,940 --> 02:04:36,360
entry. Here we are supported by
grants from the Ford Foundation.

2013
02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:39,570
The John D And Catherine T.
Macarthur Foundation, the Open

2014
02:04:39,570 --> 02:04:44,250
Society Institute. The
Rockefeller Foundation, please

2015
02:04:44,520 --> 02:04:47,880
push you see what's going on.
Don't take your analysis from

2016
02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:48,330
these get

2017
02:04:48,690 --> 02:04:53,010
about New World Order. Yeah, so
are like the laundry list. Yeah.

2018
02:04:56,010 --> 02:04:59,280
Anyway, so before you go yelling
and screaming about something,

2019
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:03,240
have a read To just even just
have a read of the we have

2020
02:05:03,240 --> 02:05:04,200
a link to in the show notes.

2021
02:05:05,279 --> 02:05:12,329
Not just that, but several of
the several of the analysis. So

2022
02:05:12,329 --> 02:05:17,879
EFF, Dan Gilmore, and Gilmore,
this was in The Guardian. I

2023
02:05:17,879 --> 02:05:22,349
could do better than this. Dan
Gilmore writes his whole thing.

2024
02:05:22,379 --> 02:05:25,739
And he says, Well, it'd be in
here. The more you know about

2025
02:05:25,739 --> 02:05:28,499
the odious Trans Pacific
Partnership, the less you're

2026
02:05:28,499 --> 02:05:32,309
like it. It's made for corporate
intellectual property and

2027
02:05:32,309 --> 02:05:36,119
profits. And then he has a
picture of a woman with a SOPA

2028
02:05:36,119 --> 02:05:40,799
sticker over her mouth. And
then, among the many betrayals

2029
02:05:40,799 --> 02:05:44,729
of the Obama administration, is
its overall treatment of what

2030
02:05:44,729 --> 02:05:49,649
many people refer to as
intellectual property. And then

2031
02:05:49,649 --> 02:05:53,849
again, he just really doesn't
have anything. No specifics, no

2032
02:05:53,849 --> 02:05:56,879
specifics, nothing new and goes
back to, you know, basically

2033
02:05:56,879 --> 02:06:01,259
saying, this is soap two or
three or nine or whatever. It's

2034
02:06:01,259 --> 02:06:05,069
not it's just not it's a dumb
document that has been dangled

2035
02:06:05,069 --> 02:06:06,599
out there to get everyone all
worked up.

2036
02:06:07,440 --> 02:06:11,640
Well, it seems to work. I'm
worked up about it. Yeah, you're

2037
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:14,580
more worked up than anyone but I
also linked to the follow this

2038
02:06:14,580 --> 02:06:16,980
it sounds like you're I think
you're dead on this one. This is

2039
02:06:16,980 --> 02:06:19,800
just all be you know, some Yeah,
it's it looks like a PRD.

2040
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:20,970
Everything is a PR stunt.

2041
02:06:21,150 --> 02:06:24,210
at Bloomberg, I have a link to
this Bloomberg article, which is

2042
02:06:24,210 --> 02:06:29,250
from earlier this year, getting
Japan to guzzle American gas.

2043
02:06:29,910 --> 02:06:33,960
And that's really and it says
why so because Japan's non

2044
02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:37,020
tariff barriers protecting major
sectors of the economy, the TPP

2045
02:06:37,020 --> 02:06:39,360
aims to reduce all these
barriers, preferably to zero

2046
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:41,550
Japan's inclusion in the trade
pact will boost American

2047
02:06:41,550 --> 02:06:44,280
exports, create American jobs,
and make both economies more

2048
02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:47,820
efficient now and well into the
future. And this is an I had

2049
02:06:47,820 --> 02:06:51,270
this conversation with Miss
Mickey this morning. And this is

2050
02:06:51,300 --> 02:06:56,730
this is the part that is weird
coming out of my mouth. But we

2051
02:06:56,730 --> 02:07:02,340
really need this. I mean, I
don't want to live in, in a dead

2052
02:07:02,340 --> 02:07:05,820
society. You know, America is
not America, not a country.

2053
02:07:06,510 --> 02:07:10,920
America is a business. Okay,
let's get that straight. And

2054
02:07:10,920 --> 02:07:14,160
that's why our president is
called the chief executive. And

2055
02:07:14,160 --> 02:07:17,730
we have the resource extraction
unit. That's the Pentagon. And

2056
02:07:17,730 --> 02:07:20,130
we have all these different,
we're a business get over

2057
02:07:20,130 --> 02:07:23,190
yourself, we're a business. And
if you don't want to live in a

2058
02:07:23,190 --> 02:07:27,180
dead, broken, bankrupt business,
then you want this thing to go

2059
02:07:27,180 --> 02:07:30,510
through. And you want us to
essentially beat Russia at their

2060
02:07:30,510 --> 02:07:34,350
own game. You want it to happen,
we can start building from

2061
02:07:34,350 --> 02:07:39,090
there. We can we can we really
can. But I have to say we have

2062
02:07:39,090 --> 02:07:41,280
to start, we have to get this.

2063
02:07:42,150 --> 02:07:46,020
Well, here's what I see. First
of all these people complaining

2064
02:07:46,020 --> 02:07:49,590
and tweeting, and moaning and
groaning is accomplishes

2065
02:07:49,590 --> 02:07:53,040
nothing. They have no influence
whatsoever. It's very rare that

2066
02:07:53,070 --> 02:07:55,830
they anything's ever
accomplished. I mean, like they

2067
02:07:56,190 --> 02:08:00,270
think this SOPA thing keeps
coming back in one form or

2068
02:08:00,270 --> 02:08:03,450
another if this, isn't it, it'll
be something else and who cares?

2069
02:08:03,870 --> 02:08:09,000
The point is, is that there's a
there is a lack of ability,

2070
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:12,990
we're not the French, the French
when they see some sort of thing

2071
02:08:12,990 --> 02:08:17,700
that they don't personally like.
They do a little work research.

2072
02:08:17,850 --> 02:08:21,030
They don't just jump the gun and
just go crazy. But then they do

2073
02:08:21,030 --> 02:08:24,240
something they burn trucks, they
turn stuff over they take

2074
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:27,150
action. Yeah, we don't take any
action whatsoever. We just

2075
02:08:27,270 --> 02:08:30,630
change it change our Twitter
icon. It this is just yeah, you

2076
02:08:30,630 --> 02:08:33,930
change your Twitter icon to
green or purple or whatever it

2077
02:08:33,930 --> 02:08:37,680
is. or black. My favourite one.
What's the point?

2078
02:08:37,890 --> 02:08:42,030
Well, along with this comes an
email that I received after the

2079
02:08:42,060 --> 02:08:50,250
previous show. And I was gonna
read his email on the no agenda

2080
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:56,310
show. And this is from I think,
Bridget. Hi, Adam. Whilst I love

2081
02:08:56,310 --> 02:09:02,880
your show, I was shocked to hear
that you are annoyed by homeless

2082
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:07,230
people holding up signs in the
street. Now I would like to

2083
02:09:07,260 --> 02:09:10,710
revisit and say that I didn't, I
said I was annoyed by people

2084
02:09:10,710 --> 02:09:14,340
holding up signs on the access
roads to the highway that

2085
02:09:14,340 --> 02:09:18,510
usually say I'm not gonna lie, I
need a beer. This is a matter of

2086
02:09:18,510 --> 02:09:21,600
very close to my heart. And if
you took the time to talk to one

2087
02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:24,180
of these poor buggers you would
find they did not choose to

2088
02:09:24,180 --> 02:09:29,040
stand there. They all have a
very sad story to tell. And in

2089
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:32,640
the state they're in now filthy
and depressed. There is no way

2090
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:34,620
they can get a job unless
someone helps them give them a

2091
02:09:34,620 --> 02:09:37,800
chance respects them. Not
everyone is a talented musician

2092
02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:42,960
worthy of your money. I do runs
where I distribute food to

2093
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:45,750
homeless people and also stop
and chat with them for 10

2094
02:09:45,750 --> 02:09:48,780
minutes or so when I have the
time. It is much appreciated and

2095
02:09:48,780 --> 02:09:54,990
makes me feel good to you should
try it. Now, I need this beer

2096
02:09:54,990 --> 02:09:55,170
good

2097
02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:57,690
is that you think that was the
voice that she had as a woman

2098
02:09:57,690 --> 02:09:58,320
right? Yes, she

2099
02:09:58,320 --> 02:10:01,170
came back because I said you
should listen to me. Then these

2100
02:10:01,170 --> 02:10:05,280
might reply, you should listen
again. What is on the sign? Was

2101
02:10:05,280 --> 02:10:07,860
it just the street or the
entrance of the highway? Do I

2102
02:10:07,860 --> 02:10:10,350
never give money? Or do I just
not give it under circuit

2103
02:10:10,350 --> 02:10:13,950
certain circumstances. And I
give $5 standard to any musician

2104
02:10:13,980 --> 02:10:16,920
above all this, you are telling
me you can't even spare $5 for

2105
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:19,290
the no agenda show, look who's
talking, because she said she

2106
02:10:19,290 --> 02:10:22,920
couldn't donate. And then she
comes, she comes back very

2107
02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:26,790
defensive. I suppose my point
was that even if someone asked

2108
02:10:26,790 --> 02:10:29,280
for beer money, I will give it
to them. Imagine living in the

2109
02:10:29,280 --> 02:10:32,790
street, I listened again, I will
not backtrack, you only give

2110
02:10:32,790 --> 02:10:34,830
money to people with a talent
and are annoyed by everything

2111
02:10:34,830 --> 02:10:37,830
else. You said verbatim,
everybody's working. Everyone's

2112
02:10:37,830 --> 02:10:40,650
trying to do something. They're
not crippled. There are people

2113
02:10:40,650 --> 02:10:44,130
in this world with either no
talent, a low IQ or people who

2114
02:10:44,130 --> 02:10:48,150
are extremely bad luck. Okay, so
let me just say something,

2115
02:10:49,290 --> 02:10:53,730
everybody and this, this is so
hypocrite, everybody makes

2116
02:10:53,730 --> 02:10:57,300
choices in their life, you
cannot tell me that you stop for

2117
02:10:57,300 --> 02:11:01,020
every person who asks you money,
everyone makes a decision. I am

2118
02:11:01,020 --> 02:11:04,680
just not a hypocrite, I give my
decision upfront. And I help

2119
02:11:04,800 --> 02:11:08,670
people who I want to and can
help. You know, we're in a big,

2120
02:11:09,420 --> 02:11:12,120
big play here. And this isn't
you know, kind of like everybody

2121
02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:17,280
does have to play their role.
And everybody has your link in

2122
02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:22,020
the chain. Our link but we do
actually with John and I do has

2123
02:11:22,020 --> 02:11:25,620
been under attack for decades.
You know, just to open give you

2124
02:11:25,620 --> 02:11:30,120
open an honest analysis, and to
help people understand what's

2125
02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:33,780
going on. And that's what I
decided to do on a daily basis.

2126
02:11:33,780 --> 02:11:36,150
And if I decide only to give
musicians then I hope someone

2127
02:11:36,150 --> 02:11:38,490
else picks up the slack
somewhere else but to come out

2128
02:11:38,490 --> 02:11:44,460
and say that I'm that I'm mean
or or horrible for not giving

2129
02:11:44,460 --> 02:11:49,320
money to everybody. Screw you.
Everybody makes decisions. You

2130
02:11:49,320 --> 02:11:52,380
just make it on the spur of the
moment. And you're embarrassed

2131
02:11:52,380 --> 02:11:52,920
to say it

2132
02:11:56,760 --> 02:12:00,090
once you got an understood Yeah.

2133
02:12:02,940 --> 02:12:05,370
And then the thing that she
doesn't even donate to our show

2134
02:12:05,370 --> 02:12:07,950
ever has just gone galls me.

2135
02:12:09,270 --> 02:12:14,010
Yeah, well, she takes it. She's
just she's not really on board.

2136
02:12:14,010 --> 02:12:17,250
She has. She's just looking for
stuff to bitch about. Yeah,

2137
02:12:17,490 --> 02:12:19,170
she's probably a miserable
person.

2138
02:12:19,980 --> 02:12:25,080
Well, I if not then I hope she
is now. Did you know you will

2139
02:12:25,080 --> 02:12:31,740
know this? I was. Let me see did
I find this in a must have been

2140
02:12:31,740 --> 02:12:32,520
an article?

2141
02:12:34,020 --> 02:12:36,510
I'm going to read you the
opening quote here from this

2142
02:12:36,510 --> 02:12:41,100
article. It was pretty good. We
just pull it let me tell you

2143
02:12:41,100 --> 02:12:45,600
where the articles from first.
It's the original NSA

2144
02:12:45,600 --> 02:12:50,550
whistleblower. And this is so
typical of actually was in

2145
02:12:50,550 --> 02:12:55,740
Gawker. Very surprising. This is
written by Adrian Chen. title of

2146
02:12:55,740 --> 02:12:57,750
the article after 30 years of
silence the original NSA

2147
02:12:57,780 --> 02:13:00,720
whistleblower looks black. This
is a guy named Perry fell walk.

2148
02:13:01,170 --> 02:13:02,220
Have you ever heard of this guy?

2149
02:13:02,490 --> 02:13:05,700
No. I thought I knew all of
whistleblowers, but he does not

2150
02:13:05,730 --> 02:13:06,150
check this

2151
02:13:06,150 --> 02:13:08,940
out. And this actually goes back
to Bobby Inman, which is kind of

2152
02:13:08,940 --> 02:13:13,290
funny. And there in 1972, was a
rogue analyst some kid in his

2153
02:13:13,290 --> 02:13:16,320
20s describing the NSA is
business down to the colours of

2154
02:13:16,320 --> 02:13:19,230
the badges worn at its
headquarters. Winslow Peck,

2155
02:13:19,230 --> 02:13:23,460
which was his codename claimed
that the NSA had broken all of

2156
02:13:23,460 --> 02:13:26,730
the Soviets codes that the
government's official account of

2157
02:13:26,730 --> 02:13:29,490
the Vietnam War was a lie and
that the agency was guilty of

2158
02:13:29,490 --> 02:13:33,360
salacious corruption. Quite a
few people in the NSA are into

2159
02:13:33,390 --> 02:13:36,750
illegal activities of one kind
or another. It's taken to be one

2160
02:13:36,750 --> 02:13:39,120
of the fringe benefits of the
job, you know, enhancing your

2161
02:13:39,120 --> 02:13:42,630
pocketbook smuggling people
inside the NSA or even involved

2162
02:13:42,630 --> 02:13:43,710
with the slave trade

2163
02:13:43,830 --> 02:13:47,400
well inside but the real
moneymakers inside information.

2164
02:13:47,430 --> 02:13:50,580
Of course, if I get to listen to
all the phone calls, I want to

2165
02:13:50,580 --> 02:13:55,200
between like some hotshot let's
say Carl Icahn or someone else,

2166
02:13:55,200 --> 02:13:57,510
and I get a heads up on
somebody's going to do the next

2167
02:13:57,510 --> 02:14:01,230
day. Hey, I'm making money.
There were more there was more

2168
02:14:01,230 --> 02:14:06,000
money made on 911. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. That has never been no

2169
02:14:06,000 --> 02:14:09,060
one's ever uncovered. What Wow,
all these guys all of a sudden

2170
02:14:09,060 --> 02:14:10,740
shorted all the airlines snow

2171
02:14:10,740 --> 02:14:12,660
conveniently, all that
information went down and

2172
02:14:12,660 --> 02:14:18,810
building seven. Well, yeah. This
this also goes into the Welch

2173
02:14:18,840 --> 02:14:23,250
assassination. Is any of this
coming back to I 72 was way too

2174
02:14:23,250 --> 02:14:26,220
early for me. But you were also
a young man and probably doing

2175
02:14:26,220 --> 02:14:27,510
other things at the time.

2176
02:14:29,220 --> 02:14:31,950
Right, I was led to believe that
these other things were going to

2177
02:14:31,950 --> 02:14:33,000
be beneficial.

2178
02:14:33,180 --> 02:14:36,450
But this this Eventually, this
led into the Church Committee.

2179
02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:40,560
Alright, the Church Committee
which which was created the

2180
02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:43,320
congressional oversight
committees, which have sold out

2181
02:14:43,320 --> 02:14:47,640
the American public Yes. Yeah.
And it's really I think church

2182
02:14:47,640 --> 02:14:53,280
was killed. Um, well, so Well,
assassination. I'm not familiar

2183
02:14:53,280 --> 02:14:53,820
with this.

2184
02:14:54,690 --> 02:14:58,110
The world assassination. I wrote
some quotes here. Evidence of

2185
02:14:58,290 --> 02:15:00,000
manipulation of the American
press for the purpose of

2186
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,780
influencing events in the United
States, CIA successfully

2187
02:15:03,780 --> 02:15:06,390
exploited the murder of one of
its station chiefs to set back

2188
02:15:06,390 --> 02:15:09,540
efforts to bring the CIA under
constitutional control. This was

2189
02:15:09,540 --> 02:15:13,890
the outing of of CIA operatives
this actually led to the law

2190
02:15:13,890 --> 02:15:23,100
that you couldn't do that. And
he published this Perry I'm

2191
02:15:23,100 --> 02:15:28,650
sorry what's his name Perry. The
crazy name fell walk. He

2192
02:15:28,650 --> 02:15:33,360
published his account in rampart
magazine. Does this mean

2193
02:15:33,360 --> 02:15:34,050
anything to you?

2194
02:15:34,440 --> 02:15:41,640
Yeah, rampart was the big the
big kind of would you call it

2195
02:15:41,640 --> 02:15:47,310
was a radical progressive it was
it was kind of the revolutionary

2196
02:15:47,550 --> 02:15:50,730
popular revolutionary magazine
of its era did a lot of

2197
02:15:50,730 --> 02:15:54,150
investigative stuff. It's kind
of like devolved into what

2198
02:15:54,150 --> 02:15:55,590
Mother Jones is because

2199
02:15:55,620 --> 02:15:58,560
in fact, in fact, I think part
of it did become Mother Jones, I

2200
02:15:58,560 --> 02:15:59,190
could be whatever

2201
02:15:59,190 --> 02:16:01,590
the case is, is not the same as
it was it was pretty

2202
02:16:01,710 --> 02:16:03,540
entertaining reading, let me
tell you. So

2203
02:16:03,570 --> 02:16:10,200
in 7172, fell what blew the
whistle on echelon. That's what

2204
02:16:10,200 --> 02:16:14,760
he uncovered. The NSA at the
time was a little known

2205
02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:17,010
organisation and amongst the
most secret of the US

2206
02:16:17,010 --> 02:16:20,490
intelligence agencies fell walk
was revealed that it had

2207
02:16:20,490 --> 02:16:24,420
significantly larger budget than
the CIA. And he was in turn

2208
02:16:24,420 --> 02:16:29,190
motivated by Ellsberg release of
the Pentagon Papers. And so back

2209
02:16:29,190 --> 02:16:32,130
in the day, no one's ever heard
of CIG in signals intelligence

2210
02:16:32,130 --> 02:16:36,240
and and this goes back to the
five eyes. Though what's

2211
02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:40,260
interesting is that none of this
is really new this is, in fact,

2212
02:16:40,260 --> 02:16:47,340
it's almost like the same script
is being played out. Maybe just

2213
02:16:47,400 --> 02:16:50,310
with a different production
team, and maybe different

2214
02:16:50,310 --> 02:16:51,540
financial backers.

2215
02:16:52,320 --> 02:16:57,150
Well, it seems like the same
antagonists the CIA not getting

2216
02:16:57,150 --> 02:16:59,820
as much money as they want,
although they probably can if

2217
02:16:59,820 --> 02:17:04,410
you can incorporate the drug
money, which we assume they use.

2218
02:17:06,090 --> 02:17:08,880
They probably have a huge
budget, but it's just it's still

2219
02:17:08,880 --> 02:17:12,660
hurtful. It seems. Yes. That's
the NSA a bunch of guys sitting

2220
02:17:12,660 --> 02:17:16,290
at desks, you know, poking you
know, typing in stuff it should

2221
02:17:16,290 --> 02:17:19,530
be getting so much more money
than then the agents that are

2222
02:17:19,530 --> 02:17:21,210
supposedly running everything

2223
02:17:22,770 --> 02:17:26,010
well, the only thing I can say
now is that oh, my god, I can't

2224
02:17:26,010 --> 02:17:29,430
believe I didn't know this. And
all I got a whole a tonne of

2225
02:17:29,430 --> 02:17:34,350
links in the show notes about
Perry fell walk the Rampart

2226
02:17:34,350 --> 02:17:38,010
article which was titled us
electronic espionage and memoir.

2227
02:17:38,880 --> 02:17:41,370
And it's interesting cuz you
know, he didn't go to jail. He's

2228
02:17:41,370 --> 02:17:44,550
still around, you know, there
was no like, come home and face

2229
02:17:44,550 --> 02:17:46,890
the music. In fact, that's
probably the one thing that

2230
02:17:47,550 --> 02:17:50,160
Edward Snowden Well, he didn't
do it wrong. I think he got

2231
02:17:50,430 --> 02:17:57,540
jacked by Greenwald and and
buddies. He got screwed. That's

2232
02:17:57,540 --> 02:17:59,100
why he's,

2233
02:17:59,730 --> 02:18:02,760
well, I think the laws were
different than to i don't i

2234
02:18:02,820 --> 02:18:06,030
They've have been tightening and
tightening this, these, the

2235
02:18:06,030 --> 02:18:10,830
Senate and House committees have
been passing all this, you know,

2236
02:18:10,830 --> 02:18:15,000
this legislation on the side to
tighten down because every time

2237
02:18:15,030 --> 02:18:16,560
there's been a lot of
whistleblowers, I mean, there's

2238
02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:19,380
that guy, then there's the guys
that are more recent, who was

2239
02:18:19,410 --> 02:18:21,840
especially the one guy who got
screwed by the FBI, they tried

2240
02:18:21,840 --> 02:18:24,510
to throw him in jail forever,
right. And every time a new guy

2241
02:18:24,510 --> 02:18:26,820
comes along, they tight and
tight. And so if you say

2242
02:18:26,820 --> 02:18:30,090
anything, that's why we have
every other document now done by

2243
02:18:30,090 --> 02:18:33,360
government is secure. It needed
security clearance to read it

2244
02:18:33,480 --> 02:18:35,970
when it's just a list of
birthdays, right? I mean, the

2245
02:18:35,970 --> 02:18:39,840
whole thing has been screwed up.
So I think back in the day, this

2246
02:18:39,840 --> 02:18:41,940
guy could you could probably do
more stuff. Now. You can't do

2247
02:18:41,940 --> 02:18:42,450
anything.

2248
02:18:43,020 --> 02:18:45,660
But it's really interesting. And
I think it's almost required

2249
02:18:45,660 --> 02:18:50,790
reading for, for anyone today
just to understand where all of

2250
02:18:50,790 --> 02:18:56,130
this comes from where they took
Bobby Inman, he ran the NSA.

2251
02:18:56,580 --> 02:18:59,160
This is what I Yeah. Gee, it
seems to me that there's a guy

2252
02:18:59,160 --> 02:19:01,830
living right down the street
from the kid go knock on his

2253
02:19:01,830 --> 02:19:04,560
door, have a nice little
conversation and I'm going

2254
02:19:04,560 --> 02:19:07,830
to do that, because I'm going to
call uncle Don who was mentioned

2255
02:19:07,890 --> 02:19:11,040
that Inman is a very good friend
of hers. And so here's what

2256
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:15,510
happens. So Inman, I think he
left the NSA in a huff, he was

2257
02:19:15,510 --> 02:19:23,730
pissed off, because the Israelis
bombed, or they blew up the ship

2258
02:19:23,850 --> 02:19:28,440
that had NSA on it. What ship
was that? It was liberty.

2259
02:19:28,440 --> 02:19:31,860
Liberty, yes. And that and he
got really pissed off and he

2260
02:19:31,860 --> 02:19:36,450
left now, what's funny, is that
here, here in Austin, I've

2261
02:19:36,450 --> 02:19:39,840
mentioned Bobby Inman to several
people. And what always comes

2262
02:19:39,840 --> 02:19:45,000
back is Oh, yes, all the boys
know, Bobby. Yeah. And that's

2263
02:19:45,030 --> 02:19:51,990
funny because if you read Perry
fell walks article at the time

2264
02:19:52,020 --> 02:19:54,960
when the NSA was recruiting
people and they were recruiting

2265
02:19:55,020 --> 02:19:58,830
just smart kids. The only thing
they were worried about was

2266
02:19:58,830 --> 02:20:01,740
homosexuality now That seemed
the agency seemed to be really

2267
02:20:01,740 --> 02:20:04,530
hung up on that for some reason.
So I don't know if that was in

2268
02:20:04,530 --> 02:20:06,960
direct relation to him and
running it then or whatever it

2269
02:20:06,960 --> 02:20:12,870
was. But there's some crazy crap
going on in, in, in all of these

2270
02:20:12,870 --> 02:20:18,030
divisions. And if you have kids,
let me tell you, you have to

2271
02:20:18,030 --> 02:20:23,370
teach your kids how to run their
own stuff. And you know, you've

2272
02:20:23,370 --> 02:20:27,510
got to let them understand how
an operating system works and

2273
02:20:27,810 --> 02:20:31,710
give them let them mess around
with Linux. Let them understand

2274
02:20:31,980 --> 02:20:35,070
how the internet works. And
please educate them that it's

2275
02:20:35,070 --> 02:20:38,460
not all these centralised
services like Facebook and

2276
02:20:38,460 --> 02:20:41,760
Twitter, you've got to arm your
children with some real

2277
02:20:41,760 --> 02:20:45,810
knowledge of how stuff works,
because they won't survive if

2278
02:20:45,810 --> 02:20:50,040
they just continue on this trip
that we're placing everybody on.

2279
02:20:51,270 --> 02:20:53,520
So we have to change your
timeline. I'm just looking some

2280
02:20:53,520 --> 02:20:54,690
stuff up while you're yakking,

2281
02:20:54,870 --> 02:20:57,630
which is, let's face it, that's
all I'm doing.

2282
02:20:58,020 --> 02:21:01,170
Here is you're yakking. Now
you're good. You're revealing

2283
02:21:01,170 --> 02:21:03,420
interesting information. But he
was the director of the National

2284
02:21:03,420 --> 02:21:07,860
Security Agency from 77 to 81,
the USS Liberty that was early

2285
02:21:07,860 --> 02:21:11,100
as 67 Oh, that can't be that.
And then he after he quit the

2286
02:21:11,100 --> 02:21:14,220
NSA. He went to the CIA's a
deputy direct.

2287
02:21:14,220 --> 02:21:17,790
He left there and he was angry.
I remember he was angry. This

2288
02:21:17,790 --> 02:21:20,790
was Don told me he said he was
angry. And he left because he

2289
02:21:20,790 --> 02:21:23,880
thought something was bull crap.
It's not in his wiki page. Of

2290
02:21:23,880 --> 02:21:26,700
course. No, I gotta, I gotta
meet with this guy.

2291
02:21:26,730 --> 02:21:30,600
It would have taken place in 82.
And so I don't know what

2292
02:21:30,600 --> 02:21:33,930
happened at age and maybe it was
during the Reagan

2293
02:21:33,930 --> 02:21:34,530
administration.

2294
02:21:34,560 --> 02:21:37,890
That's how old he he's 82. Now
speaking of 82 I gotta get to

2295
02:21:37,890 --> 02:21:45,720
him quick. Yeah. Geez, man, I'm,
but he was also an way he might

2296
02:21:45,720 --> 02:21:49,380
be a great guy to have a beer
with. Oh, Betty is. It's just I

2297
02:21:49,380 --> 02:21:51,690
gotta find the right reason for
the introduction.

2298
02:21:52,650 --> 02:22:01,680
You want to talk to him? Yeah.
That's true. Hmm. Just say

2299
02:22:01,680 --> 02:22:04,920
you've always been a big fan.
Don't say that. No, young people

2300
02:22:04,920 --> 02:22:06,300
don't need to see fans. We're
not

2301
02:22:06,300 --> 02:22:10,560
going to say that. That's not a
good idea. fan. I got a good

2302
02:22:10,560 --> 02:22:14,820
Rick Perry rumour for you know,
here in Texas, everyone wants to

2303
02:22:14,820 --> 02:22:16,350
know, is he going to because he
No, he's not gonna run for

2304
02:22:16,350 --> 02:22:17,220
governor. You know,

2305
02:22:17,220 --> 02:22:18,180
he wears a dress.

2306
02:22:18,720 --> 02:22:22,320
He is a crossdresser. That is
pretty much confirmed. So

2307
02:22:22,320 --> 02:22:24,960
everyone wants to know is now
that he's not, you know, he's

2308
02:22:24,960 --> 02:22:27,480
not going to run for governor
again. Of course. Will he run

2309
02:22:27,480 --> 02:22:32,760
for president? And I heard that
he has been offered the

2310
02:22:32,760 --> 02:22:34,260
chairmanship of the NRA,

2311
02:22:35,940 --> 02:22:39,570
the National Rifle Association.
That's a good gig. It'd

2312
02:22:39,570 --> 02:22:46,140
be interesting, right? From our
Clooney files, I've promised you

2313
02:22:46,140 --> 02:22:50,070
more art is coming more art will
be discovered until the release

2314
02:22:50,070 --> 02:22:56,430
of the movie. In fact, I can
reveal to you that between 60

2315
02:22:56,430 --> 02:22:59,460
and 80 art pieces will be
returned to their rightful

2316
02:22:59,460 --> 02:23:05,040
owners at the premiere in Los
Angeles and Berlin. Yeah. These

2317
02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:11,730
guys are so smart. This is this
is such a great setup. And I

2318
02:23:11,730 --> 02:23:13,080
might get invited to the
premiere.

2319
02:23:14,520 --> 02:23:16,530
How you're gonna get invited to
the premiere?

2320
02:23:17,310 --> 02:23:20,970
Right? What do you mean? Yeah,
because like you told me because

2321
02:23:20,970 --> 02:23:23,010
I keep promoting the movie. What
are you talking about?

2322
02:23:26,490 --> 02:23:31,710
Hello, who's going to invite you
to the premiere? The people

2323
02:23:31,740 --> 02:23:36,960
who are helping Clooney find all
the art are insiders. How else

2324
02:23:36,960 --> 02:23:37,980
do I know this stuff?

2325
02:23:40,200 --> 02:23:42,810
Yeah, no. And so I'm gonna maybe
do you have a little chat with

2326
02:23:42,810 --> 02:23:44,250
George while you're there. And
that

2327
02:23:44,250 --> 02:23:46,440
has been while I'm not going to
go if I can't have a chat with

2328
02:23:46,440 --> 02:23:51,330
George. That's the whole point.
is pretty good to interview with

2329
02:23:51,330 --> 02:24:00,240
him in thing is Esquire maybe.
Or Vanity Fair. And it is funny

2330
02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:03,810
because the whole it's he comes
across as a really nice gay guy.

2331
02:24:03,840 --> 02:24:07,110
I mean, it's just, it's just the
thing that is not mentioned in

2332
02:24:07,110 --> 02:24:07,470
there.

2333
02:24:08,880 --> 02:24:11,700
Now he seems like a nice enough
guy. Yeah, it's totally nice.

2334
02:24:12,480 --> 02:24:17,190
But you know, global warming
stooge. Oh, he's just, ah,

2335
02:24:17,640 --> 02:24:18,720
that's just what he does.

2336
02:24:19,619 --> 02:24:24,059
Now, it's all I got. Okay. So I
got a I got a five eyes

2337
02:24:24,059 --> 02:24:27,329
programme clip. Don't want
people talking about five eyes

2338
02:24:27,329 --> 02:24:29,819
besides you a minute ago. You
should might want to explain

2339
02:24:29,819 --> 02:24:32,369
what that is, since we haven't
really discussed it at all in

2340
02:24:32,369 --> 02:24:35,549
the show. Or we can play this
clip from Russia today, which

2341
02:24:35,549 --> 02:24:39,449
obviously is prejudice about the
whole thing, but it's kind of

2342
02:24:39,449 --> 02:24:39,959
interesting.

2343
02:24:40,650 --> 02:24:43,290
According to the Snowden leaks
UK intelligence was able to

2344
02:24:43,290 --> 02:24:47,820
monitor up to 600 million
communications every day, but

2345
02:24:47,820 --> 02:24:51,570
they weren't the only ones who
had access to them. 850,000 NSA

2346
02:24:51,570 --> 02:24:54,420
employees and private us
contractors could also dig into

2347
02:24:54,420 --> 02:24:57,660
UK databases. Now it's going to
teach you can explains Britain

2348
02:24:57,660 --> 02:25:00,720
wasn't alone either in helping
Washington to keep an eye on the

2349
02:25:00,720 --> 02:25:01,230
world

2350
02:25:02,250 --> 02:25:05,400
intelligence services of five
English speaking countries have

2351
02:25:05,400 --> 02:25:09,540
joined resources to spy on the
whole world. The US is the most

2352
02:25:09,540 --> 02:25:14,190
resourceful its closest ties are
with Britain's GCHQ but Canada,

2353
02:25:14,220 --> 02:25:17,820
Australia and New Zealand are
also contributing. Australia

2354
02:25:17,820 --> 02:25:21,510
backs up Washington by keeping
tabs on Asian countries from the

2355
02:25:21,510 --> 02:25:24,480
documents leaked by Edward
Snowden. We learn that

2356
02:25:24,540 --> 02:25:29,220
Australian embassies across Asia
Pacific hosts this highly

2357
02:25:29,220 --> 02:25:32,010
sensitive intelligence
collection programme as part of

2358
02:25:32,010 --> 02:25:35,250
the Five Eyes network. It's not
just terrorists that the five

2359
02:25:35,250 --> 02:25:39,720
eyes are looking for. A former
Australian intelligence officer

2360
02:25:39,720 --> 02:25:42,810
previous to the programme said
the main focus is political,

2361
02:25:42,810 --> 02:25:45,150
diplomatic and economic
intelligence.

2362
02:25:45,390 --> 02:25:47,190
Oh yeah, thank you very much

2363
02:25:47,220 --> 02:25:51,990
the main focus main focus so
there's no terrorism angle to

2364
02:25:51,990 --> 02:25:56,280
this. It's all we're now dealing
America safe now. We're it's

2365
02:25:56,280 --> 02:25:57,960
about economic Well,

2366
02:25:58,980 --> 02:26:01,770
hold on. That's all a matter of
opinion. I interpret that as

2367
02:26:01,770 --> 02:26:04,860
keeping America safe by stealing
other country's money.

2368
02:26:05,310 --> 02:26:10,260
Well, let's do that. Well, yeah.
Or sucker them into deals that

2369
02:26:10,260 --> 02:26:12,120
we you know, renege on or we

2370
02:26:12,120 --> 02:26:14,610
have a lot of tricks when you
hear about this stuff.

2371
02:26:15,150 --> 02:26:18,600
Ask the American Indians what
they think of our hard deals

2372
02:26:18,630 --> 02:26:21,330
Oh, well, ya know our deal with

2373
02:26:21,600 --> 02:26:24,060
casinos eventually so they
shouldn't be complaining anymore

2374
02:26:24,090 --> 02:26:27,900
but we so when that when I hear
the winning when you hear

2375
02:26:27,900 --> 02:26:32,250
congressmen and women talking
about you know the the Chinese

2376
02:26:32,610 --> 02:26:36,510
spying and you know it's true
for them it's really important

2377
02:26:36,510 --> 02:26:42,450
not spying on you know, on you
or I O Oh, chopped off we're

2378
02:26:42,450 --> 02:26:45,480
going to steal no agenda show we
make that just like that. No,

2379
02:26:45,870 --> 02:26:49,200
but they're stealing what they
are stealing is was That was

2380
02:26:50,250 --> 02:26:52,770
rough. Rohit. Oh, from the 40s a

2381
02:26:53,970 --> 02:26:58,140
lot, one of my best what they
are stealing is technology, like

2382
02:26:58,140 --> 02:27:01,560
the rockets at the now selling
to Turkey. You know, that is

2383
02:27:01,590 --> 02:27:07,620
essentially our stuff. And so,
all all of this, we are we are

2384
02:27:07,620 --> 02:27:11,220
in the other camp, all the
politicians, all the big

2385
02:27:11,220 --> 02:27:15,330
captains of industry, it's all
about them and their stuff. No

2386
02:27:15,330 --> 02:27:20,070
one cares about us. Did you see
that? Now turkey. This is funny.

2387
02:27:20,610 --> 02:27:23,370
Has asked NATO to extend the
Patriot deployment near the

2388
02:27:23,370 --> 02:27:27,090
Syrian border. I'd be like, hey,
Turkey, bitch, cook, get your

2389
02:27:27,090 --> 02:27:30,060
Chinese stuff. That to protect
you.

2390
02:27:31,410 --> 02:27:33,630
Yeah, Turkey. These would be
called out on that. You're

2391
02:27:33,630 --> 02:27:33,990
right.

2392
02:27:34,350 --> 02:27:38,190
And I figured out the Jimmy
Kimmel thing. Why he was

2393
02:27:38,190 --> 02:27:40,320
apologia? I thought first we
thought it was for promotion. He

2394
02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:44,460
was apologising about the the
kids table kill everyone in

2395
02:27:44,460 --> 02:27:49,170
China joke. Yeah. I finally
figured it out.

2396
02:27:50,640 --> 02:27:52,230
We had anything to figure out
how

2397
02:27:52,500 --> 02:27:57,840
I stumbled upon it to why he's
had to apologise as the network

2398
02:27:57,840 --> 02:28:01,860
has apologised. It's good to see
apologies everywhere. Why? Well,

2399
02:28:01,890 --> 02:28:03,390
what network is Jimmy Kimmel on?

2400
02:28:04,860 --> 02:28:09,990
He's on ABC, which is what?
conglomerate? Disney?

2401
02:28:10,950 --> 02:28:16,020
And what are we building in
Shanghai? Oh, Disney Land and

2402
02:28:16,020 --> 02:28:19,140
yeah, Disney World. Yep.
actually have an article.

2403
02:28:19,860 --> 02:28:22,980
Let's make them kowtow to us.
Yeah.

2404
02:28:23,699 --> 02:28:27,719
Yeah. Because you know, we don't
want to mess that up. We don't

2405
02:28:27,719 --> 02:28:28,619
want to mess it up.

2406
02:28:30,030 --> 02:28:33,180
No, this is the despicable thing
about the media nowadays is that

2407
02:28:33,180 --> 02:28:36,060
there's all these little you
can't do a joke or you if

2408
02:28:36,060 --> 02:28:38,400
somebody says oh, you know we're
gonna let's wait let's get to

2409
02:28:38,400 --> 02:28:41,850
see one get a better deal out of
Disney by making a fuss over

2410
02:28:41,850 --> 02:28:46,020
this Jimmy Kimmel kids table
Exactly. And now they can be all

2411
02:28:46,020 --> 02:28:49,620
act in a huff because I'll tell
you there was a the Chinese

2412
02:28:50,910 --> 02:28:54,240
holding up signs with ABC logos
on it. You know, like,

2413
02:28:54,270 --> 02:28:58,800
none of the Chinese people in
China are thick skinned, they

2414
02:28:58,800 --> 02:29:01,470
have a superiority complex. They
don't think they can they are

2415
02:29:01,470 --> 02:29:04,260
very hard to insult to be honest
about if you go over there you

2416
02:29:04,260 --> 02:29:08,550
can try. And I remember one time
I wrote a column for PC magazine

2417
02:29:08,550 --> 02:29:15,300
where I took the I took the
Who's on First gag from Abbott

2418
02:29:15,300 --> 02:29:19,530
and Costello and did a thing of
because I just returned from

2419
02:29:19,530 --> 02:29:23,760
Taiwan. So I did a thing on
she's on first which is Stan she

2420
02:29:23,760 --> 02:29:28,380
the head of Acer and who H O is
on second this kind of just same

2421
02:29:28,380 --> 02:29:32,160
joke with with a Chinese names,
right? And it was it was

2422
02:29:32,160 --> 02:29:37,080
actually quite well constructed
was very funny. One of the

2423
02:29:37,080 --> 02:29:40,350
editors said you're good to eat.
So I'm gonna run this but you're

2424
02:29:40,350 --> 02:29:42,720
gonna get in trouble. They're
going to be nothing but

2425
02:29:42,720 --> 02:29:45,750
complaints about this because
it's like racist or whatever

2426
02:29:45,750 --> 02:29:51,030
they said, Right? Not one single
person said anything.

2427
02:29:52,290 --> 02:29:56,940
I'm going to, we're going to go
see Uncle Don and I'm Meg. We

2428
02:29:56,940 --> 02:29:59,160
have to do a trip to New York
and it's time you know these

2429
02:29:59,160 --> 02:30:03,480
people in their 80s If and and I
don't know he's he's written his

2430
02:30:03,480 --> 02:30:05,640
book but I don't I think he's
having trouble getting it

2431
02:30:05,640 --> 02:30:07,950
published so I'm gonna have to
work on him because I want to

2432
02:30:07,950 --> 02:30:12,240
publish it. God do I want to
publish that book. But I'm going

2433
02:30:12,240 --> 02:30:19,170
to record him doing one of his
Asian accents. He was ambassador

2434
02:30:19,170 --> 02:30:22,650
to Korea and he has he does this
thing about ship debajo which I

2435
02:30:22,650 --> 02:30:24,660
can't do but I'm going to record
I'm gonna going to record the

2436
02:30:24,660 --> 02:30:30,810
ship debajo story. He has so
many of them. And he doesn't

2437
02:30:30,810 --> 02:30:31,230
care.

2438
02:30:33,810 --> 02:30:37,950
Now, a lot of people don't care.
I personally find it very

2439
02:30:37,950 --> 02:30:38,520
offensive.

2440
02:30:38,640 --> 02:30:45,300
Yeah, I fell across something.
And, and I looked it up to

2441
02:30:45,300 --> 02:30:48,450
figure out what was going on.
This was a State Department

2442
02:30:48,450 --> 02:30:51,480
briefing, you know, I love to
watch him. Uh, Jen Psaki is

2443
02:30:51,480 --> 02:30:56,400
back? Oh, yay. Yay. Let's see if
I can crank this up loud enough

2444
02:30:56,400 --> 02:31:00,810
so you can get the question.
Clearly, an anti Hillary move.

2445
02:31:02,130 --> 02:31:08,250
Device. Pro Publica has a story
saying that. It has asked the

2446
02:31:08,250 --> 02:31:12,870
State Department to release the
names of the so called special

2447
02:31:12,870 --> 02:31:15,360
government employees at the
State Department. These are

2448
02:31:15,360 --> 02:31:19,200
people listed department Trump
can also receive income from

2449
02:31:20,010 --> 02:31:21,300
outside sources.

2450
02:31:22,109 --> 02:31:23,879
Are you hearing this? What this
is about?

2451
02:31:24,179 --> 02:31:26,639
Yeah, so yeah, I hear it very
well, as a matter of fact is

2452
02:31:26,639 --> 02:31:29,009
he's asking the question about
double dipping?

2453
02:31:29,190 --> 02:31:33,210
Yes, the special government
employees. And as it turns out,

2454
02:31:33,480 --> 02:31:37,980
the State Department has 100
special government employees.

2455
02:31:38,730 --> 02:31:40,140
And they can

2456
02:31:40,140 --> 02:31:43,170
be on government dole and they
can also be on some corporate

2457
02:31:43,170 --> 02:31:43,740
dole.

2458
02:31:44,220 --> 02:31:48,780
Yes. Well, in fact, if you look
up the definition, some ethics

2459
02:31:48,780 --> 02:31:52,770
provisions that allow two
executive branch employees apply

2460
02:31:52,770 --> 02:31:57,120
differently to any employee who
qualifies as a s g special

2461
02:31:57,120 --> 02:32:00,450
government employee. This was
this category was created in

2462
02:32:00,450 --> 02:32:05,880
1962. And as defined as G is an
officer employee who was

2463
02:32:05,880 --> 02:32:09,180
retained designated, appointed
or employed to perform temporary

2464
02:32:09,180 --> 02:32:12,420
duties, with or without
compensation for not more than

2465
02:32:12,420 --> 02:32:18,180
130 days during any period of
365 consecutive days. The STE

2466
02:32:18,180 --> 02:32:20,100
category should be distinguished
from other categories of

2467
02:32:20,100 --> 02:32:23,700
individuals who serve executive
branch agencies. So this is

2468
02:32:23,700 --> 02:32:26,580
basically saying that, you know,
someone may have a great job

2469
02:32:26,580 --> 02:32:30,660
somewhere. But we really need
them in government that really

2470
02:32:30,660 --> 02:32:35,460
special really, really special
so we can bring them in for no

2471
02:32:35,460 --> 02:32:39,960
more than 130 days on temporary
basis. This question, by the way

2472
02:32:39,960 --> 02:32:45,930
is about one special government
employee in particular. Uma

2473
02:32:45,960 --> 02:32:46,590
Aberdeen

2474
02:32:48,420 --> 02:32:51,420
Ah, good because my next clip
will be right in that same

2475
02:32:51,420 --> 02:32:51,750
league.

2476
02:32:51,780 --> 02:32:57,480
What's perfect so uma Aberdeen
was working for the huge

2477
02:32:57,480 --> 02:33:03,360
consultancy that that Bill
Clinton was a part of. At the

2478
02:33:03,360 --> 02:33:07,140
same time, she was the body man
for Secretary of State Hillary

2479
02:33:07,140 --> 02:33:12,210
Clinton. I doubt she was only on
the road 130 days of any 365

2480
02:33:12,420 --> 02:33:14,970
But this is not a she was
Hillary that's bullcrap.

2481
02:33:15,420 --> 02:33:20,850
Exactly. And I have a feeling
that this is part of the getting

2482
02:33:20,850 --> 02:33:24,300
ready to do anything to stop
Hillary Clinton vibe whoever is

2483
02:33:24,300 --> 02:33:28,530
behind it. But that's why this
of course is cropping up and you

2484
02:33:28,530 --> 02:33:31,230
can look out for it now. But
we'll also find out there were

2485
02:33:31,230 --> 02:33:35,310
at least 100 Other special
government employees and and

2486
02:33:36,360 --> 02:33:41,040
astounding that these waivers
are made in government now that

2487
02:33:41,040 --> 02:33:45,510
people can play both sides and
essentially enrich themselves or

2488
02:33:45,570 --> 02:33:49,350
their their industries and their
businesses with inside

2489
02:33:49,350 --> 02:33:51,660
information. It should be
stopped.

2490
02:33:54,690 --> 02:33:56,100
So that was it. That was the
clip.

2491
02:33:57,120 --> 02:33:58,620
Oh, there's more to it. But it's
it's okay. Well,

2492
02:33:58,620 --> 02:34:01,950
let me play a couple clips I got
here but one of the experts and

2493
02:34:01,950 --> 02:34:08,370
consultants that was on this was
on fan cat French TV. And this

2494
02:34:08,370 --> 02:34:11,010
is a some just some interesting
discussions about what went

2495
02:34:11,010 --> 02:34:14,940
wrong in the Middle East. And it
starts with this one clip of how

2496
02:34:14,940 --> 02:34:18,990
the USA sides with the Muslim
Brotherhood. And the reason it's

2497
02:34:18,990 --> 02:34:22,950
interesting to me is because uma
Aberdeen, who is a consultant to

2498
02:34:22,950 --> 02:34:26,490
Hillary during this era, where
they all the Arab Spring took

2499
02:34:26,490 --> 02:34:26,820
place a

2500
02:34:26,820 --> 02:34:29,550
guy just wrote a book has clear
ties to the Muslim

2501
02:34:29,550 --> 02:34:32,400
Brotherhood, she is connected to
the Muslim Brotherhood. So let's

2502
02:34:32,400 --> 02:34:34,980
just play a couple of these
clips. This by the way, as part

2503
02:34:34,980 --> 02:34:37,410
of the clip list,

2504
02:34:37,439 --> 02:34:41,399
and that instead decided to
support the Islamic

2505
02:34:41,399 --> 02:34:44,639
fundamentalists or groups such
as the Muslim Brotherhood. It's

2506
02:34:44,639 --> 02:34:48,839
really quite difficult to
understand why Washington and

2507
02:34:48,839 --> 02:34:52,979
the European capitals would do
something like that. That's an

2508
02:34:52,979 --> 02:34:56,279
absolutely amazing question. We
are still trying to answer it

2509
02:34:56,279 --> 02:34:58,319
not just one book. I hope
there'll be other authors who

2510
02:34:58,319 --> 02:35:01,199
will go and investigate the
inside To the governments, both

2511
02:35:01,199 --> 02:35:04,499
in France and in the United
States and elsewhere. In my

2512
02:35:04,499 --> 02:35:08,579
view, the West in general made
three mistakes. Number one, we

2513
02:35:08,579 --> 02:35:11,669
did not understand that civil
society was ready for an

2514
02:35:11,669 --> 02:35:14,279
uprising in the Middle East, we
completely relied either on the

2515
02:35:14,279 --> 02:35:17,789
regimes or Barack on the one
hand or acid on the other hand,

2516
02:35:18,119 --> 02:35:20,939
and on the end, we did not
partner except with the Islamist

2517
02:35:20,939 --> 02:35:26,069
so when the first cycle came in
Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and a

2518
02:35:26,069 --> 02:35:29,879
little bit of Syria, it was
truly young people, women,

2519
02:35:29,879 --> 02:35:33,479
minorities, we saw them on TV.
But immediately after that, the

2520
02:35:33,479 --> 02:35:37,799
Islamist well organised, very
sophisticated, took over, the

2521
02:35:37,799 --> 02:35:41,669
massive mistake we made was when
we concentrated everything on

2522
02:35:41,669 --> 02:35:45,419
those Islamist, our advisors,
both in Washington and in

2523
02:35:45,419 --> 02:35:50,009
Brussels, told us the Islamist,
an agent of reform, and

2524
02:35:50,009 --> 02:35:53,189
revolution, but it took
Washington a long time before

2525
02:35:53,189 --> 02:35:57,809
they decided to push Mubarak out
for that time, precisely. And I

2526
02:35:57,809 --> 02:36:01,439
mentioned in my book, as long as
these were not the Islamist

2527
02:36:01,499 --> 02:36:03,989
leading the movement and the
Brotherhood were on the side, if

2528
02:36:03,989 --> 02:36:07,529
you remember, then the advisors
in the White House and other

2529
02:36:07,529 --> 02:36:10,859
places said let's wait and see.
When the Brotherhood moved in,

2530
02:36:10,889 --> 02:36:14,489
became in the centre of Tahrir
Square, then Mr. Mubarak was

2531
02:36:14,609 --> 02:36:17,609
called to leave, which means to
me that the partnership between

2532
02:36:17,609 --> 02:36:20,759
the Brotherhood and the advisors
of the administration is a long

2533
02:36:20,759 --> 02:36:22,529
one. It's not just an ad hoc.

2534
02:36:22,590 --> 02:36:25,080
Oh, yeah. It's been going on for
decades.

2535
02:36:25,500 --> 02:36:28,440
Yeah, yeah, we're right in bed
with the guys who are supposedly

2536
02:36:28,440 --> 02:36:32,310
protecting ourselves from and
let's go to part two, what's the

2537
02:36:32,310 --> 02:36:36,300
name of this guy's book is
called Arab Spring Islamist

2538
02:36:36,300 --> 02:36:36,930
winter.

2539
02:36:38,730 --> 02:36:39,750
catchy title?

2540
02:36:40,320 --> 02:36:43,530
Yeah, I thought so too, is
alright, this part two need

2541
02:36:43,530 --> 02:36:46,860
setup? I know it's just a little
more logic here. But it's

2542
02:36:46,860 --> 02:36:51,930
difficult to believe that, as I
say, the United States would

2543
02:36:52,470 --> 02:36:56,220
have such a policy, what
interest is it for the United

2544
02:36:56,220 --> 02:36:58,950
States and Western Europe to
have Islamist fundamentalists in

2545
02:36:58,950 --> 02:37:01,920
power in the Middle East? Well,
actually, today's opposition in

2546
02:37:01,920 --> 02:37:04,500
the Arab world are counter
arguing. So it's not even the

2547
02:37:04,500 --> 02:37:08,370
experts. The settlers in Egypt,
secularism, Tunisia, if we hear

2548
02:37:08,370 --> 02:37:10,860
what they're saying, they will
tell you we have not been

2549
02:37:10,860 --> 02:37:13,800
received, even before the Arab
Spring. I mean, how many

2550
02:37:13,800 --> 02:37:16,500
delegations were received in
Washington State Department,

2551
02:37:16,500 --> 02:37:19,770
National Security Council and
the White House not speaking

2552
02:37:19,770 --> 02:37:23,010
about the Congress, the Congress
did try to receive, they will

2553
02:37:23,010 --> 02:37:26,730
tell you it's uniquely Muslim
Brotherhood and but within NGOs,

2554
02:37:26,730 --> 02:37:30,060
within other NGOs, the real
reason is that there was a

2555
02:37:30,060 --> 02:37:32,790
theory that the Islamist are
well organised and that the

2556
02:37:32,790 --> 02:37:36,450
Islamist will eventually stop
the jihadist meaning work with

2557
02:37:36,450 --> 02:37:39,180
moderates, we have been told
that as long as our moderates,

2558
02:37:39,360 --> 02:37:43,560
there will be a real wall to
stop the jihadist we did not

2559
02:37:43,560 --> 02:37:46,470
understand that it's one
ideology, one with the weapon

2560
02:37:46,560 --> 02:37:47,460
and one without.

2561
02:37:48,870 --> 02:37:53,850
So is that I use the word so
yeah. What he's saying here, and

2562
02:37:53,910 --> 02:37:57,510
if you remember, during this
period, it was true. They only

2563
02:37:57,510 --> 02:38:00,600
brought over people don't people
they brought to talk to to

2564
02:38:00,600 --> 02:38:03,150
Washington, which all the right
wing talk show guys went

2565
02:38:03,180 --> 02:38:06,090
ballistic about. And they but
they didn't understand the

2566
02:38:06,090 --> 02:38:08,940
mechanism. Were Muslim
Brotherhood guys, they never

2567
02:38:08,940 --> 02:38:12,150
brought anybody else over,
nobody was received, as the guy

2568
02:38:12,150 --> 02:38:16,230
says. And now the the
interesting little last little

2569
02:38:16,230 --> 02:38:20,250
tidbit here is the part is the
third part of this little talk,

2570
02:38:20,640 --> 02:38:24,720
where he mentioned that it was
almost as if pulling out of

2571
02:38:24,720 --> 02:38:30,780
Iraq, when they pulled out was
to let the Iranians be able to

2572
02:38:30,780 --> 02:38:37,620
cross the rack to go help the
Syrians, the Assad regime are

2573
02:38:37,620 --> 02:38:40,440
normally started to help the
Syrian radicals, if you will

2574
02:38:40,440 --> 02:38:43,620
just play this. And you'll see,
it's just a weird coincidence

2575
02:38:43,740 --> 02:38:47,580
that all this is just keeping
the same problems in play.

2576
02:38:47,910 --> 02:38:51,810
Coincidence, I think not.
Another point in your book, you

2577
02:38:51,810 --> 02:38:57,960
say that President Obama missed
an opportunity to fix the Syrian

2578
02:38:57,960 --> 02:39:02,820
conflict before withdrawing
troops from Iraq? In what way?

2579
02:39:02,820 --> 02:39:05,790
Could he have fixed that, given
that it was out of the question

2580
02:39:05,790 --> 02:39:11,100
then as it is now to send troops
to Syria? Precisely, we had the

2581
02:39:11,100 --> 02:39:14,370
troops around, we didn't have to
send any more troops. What I was

2582
02:39:14,400 --> 02:39:17,160
arguing about is when the Syrian
opposition or the Syrian

2583
02:39:17,190 --> 02:39:22,410
uprising began was in March of
2011. And President Obama wanted

2584
02:39:22,410 --> 02:39:26,490
to withdraw all forces from Iraq
by the end of 2011. So to the

2585
02:39:26,520 --> 02:39:30,180
east of Syria to the east of
President Assad regime, you had

2586
02:39:30,240 --> 02:39:34,230
coalition forces, and by the
mere fact that we have separated

2587
02:39:34,230 --> 02:39:38,250
Syria from Iran, help was not
coming to the Assad regime. We

2588
02:39:38,250 --> 02:39:42,480
had our eye air bases in Iraq.
We were present in Iraq, Turkey

2589
02:39:42,480 --> 02:39:45,480
in the north Jordan in the
south, six feet in the

2590
02:39:45,660 --> 02:39:48,930
Mediterranean, the Assad regime
itself would have started to

2591
02:39:48,930 --> 02:39:52,200
make significant concessions
because this is geopolitics

2592
02:39:52,620 --> 02:39:53,460
or what does that mean?

2593
02:39:54,270 --> 02:39:57,750
What he's saying is that it's
almost as if we if we would have

2594
02:39:57,750 --> 02:40:01,860
helped Syria early ly As with
the other operations where we

2595
02:40:01,860 --> 02:40:04,860
just waited and wait until the
Muslim Brotherhood took over,

2596
02:40:05,280 --> 02:40:09,210
there was really the opposition
at that time was only consisting

2597
02:40:09,240 --> 02:40:13,590
of, you know, true Syrians that
were into democracy and they

2598
02:40:13,590 --> 02:40:19,950
were secularists. But to, but to
allow the the Iranians to metal

2599
02:40:19,950 --> 02:40:22,950
and also anyone else who wanted
to get into to keep this thing

2600
02:40:22,950 --> 02:40:27,060
going to the point, he's
suggesting that our goal is to

2601
02:40:27,060 --> 02:40:32,550
put radical Islamists into these
power spots, not let Assad stay

2602
02:40:32,550 --> 02:40:36,600
there not let some normal people
take over the place. But only

2603
02:40:36,600 --> 02:40:41,580
Islamist and so by pulling out
of Iraq and letting the the

2604
02:40:41,640 --> 02:40:48,270
people flow from Iran, across
into Syria to screw things up

2605
02:40:48,270 --> 02:40:51,600
more so it could be into a
situation developed devolve into

2606
02:40:51,600 --> 02:40:56,430
a situation similar to Egypt.
His basic thesis is that we're

2607
02:40:56,430 --> 02:40:59,640
behind. I mean, I've always
thought it was just to create

2608
02:40:59,670 --> 02:41:03,090
lots of rubble, but we're
apparently for some reason,

2609
02:41:03,240 --> 02:41:09,030
behind mostly Muslim Brotherhood
types taking over the place. And

2610
02:41:09,570 --> 02:41:12,450
because supposedly, we've been
convinced that these people are

2611
02:41:12,450 --> 02:41:16,020
not the same as the other bad
Islamists.

2612
02:41:17,280 --> 02:41:20,160
And why do you think that

2613
02:41:20,160 --> 02:41:24,570
is? Why do you I generally use
my Avidan right, but when I

2614
02:41:24,570 --> 02:41:28,560
think it's I think it's a
corruption. I don't think that

2615
02:41:28,560 --> 02:41:32,340
we know what we're doing. I
think uma Avidin piece of

2616
02:41:32,340 --> 02:41:34,980
impartial of the Muslim Muslim
Brotherhood, which was once a

2617
02:41:34,980 --> 02:41:39,480
violent organisation, these are
Islam is just posing as peace

2618
02:41:39,480 --> 02:41:43,050
lovers. But we saw what happened
when this guy got in as a as the

2619
02:41:43,080 --> 02:41:46,500
head of Egypt. He's immediately
started trying to institute

2620
02:41:46,500 --> 02:41:50,820
Sharia law and change things on
the books and cause it you know,

2621
02:41:50,820 --> 02:41:53,670
cause nothing but trouble make
people wear, you know, head

2622
02:41:53,670 --> 02:41:57,600
scarves and all the rest of it.
It happened in Tunisia. Tunisia

2623
02:41:57,600 --> 02:41:58,920
is even a better example.

2624
02:41:58,980 --> 02:42:02,760
Well, that's where it kind of
started but I think, here's the

2625
02:42:02,760 --> 02:42:08,310
sad thing is that it's of
course, it's corruption. It's

2626
02:42:08,310 --> 02:42:12,000
about money, it's about
whatever, but that these people

2627
02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:15,600
and I will say, you know, the
Clintons, the bushes and Obama,

2628
02:42:15,990 --> 02:42:21,300
they don't understand the
history of these cultures, these

2629
02:42:21,300 --> 02:42:25,110
religions, these regions, and I
think they just have like math,

2630
02:42:25,110 --> 02:42:27,720
whatever, we'll deal with it
when it happens. Like we can

2631
02:42:27,720 --> 02:42:31,230
always mom them out of existence
or whatever. I think it's a

2632
02:42:31,230 --> 02:42:34,470
hubris that they really don't
understand what these people

2633
02:42:34,470 --> 02:42:35,970
are, you're probably right

2634
02:42:35,970 --> 02:42:39,450
because they're so easily in,
influenced by people with with a

2635
02:42:39,450 --> 02:42:43,230
clue. And I would put uhm,
Aberdeen into that category. She

2636
02:42:43,230 --> 02:42:48,510
has a clue. She's got a lot. But
talking about a not

2637
02:42:48,510 --> 02:42:51,900
understanding cultures. I think
we should probably listen to

2638
02:42:51,900 --> 02:42:55,860
this clip, which is the India
justice minister. Okay.

2639
02:42:56,070 --> 02:42:59,460
This story came in from India,
the country's top law

2640
02:42:59,460 --> 02:43:03,630
enforcement officer is under
fire for saying this during a

2641
02:43:03,630 --> 02:43:08,070
news conference about legalising
gambling of all topics. Central

2642
02:43:08,070 --> 02:43:12,570
Bureau of Investigation chief
Ranjit Sinha said, and we quote,

2643
02:43:13,140 --> 02:43:17,850
If you can't prevent rape, you
might as well enjoy it says he

2644
02:43:17,850 --> 02:43:21,120
was talking about gambling and
his comment was taken out of

2645
02:43:21,120 --> 02:43:25,020
context of the comments caused
immediate outrage across India

2646
02:43:25,050 --> 02:43:28,680
not too long ago. There were
huge protests after the deadly

2647
02:43:28,680 --> 02:43:32,400
gang rape of a young medical
student on the New Delhi bus.

2648
02:43:32,430 --> 02:43:35,730
Ah, yes, the curry Devorah
consulting groups crisis

2649
02:43:35,730 --> 02:43:39,660
management division could be
called to task for this one.

2650
02:43:40,740 --> 02:43:42,690
We need to get that guy out of
the country that

2651
02:43:42,690 --> 02:43:48,390
Dick Okay. Dick Blitz, here is
V. J. 44, the true President of

2652
02:43:48,390 --> 02:43:50,910
the United States of America, a
highest adviser to the

2653
02:43:50,910 --> 02:43:55,500
president, Valerie Jarrett, as
she dances around the Health

2654
02:43:55,500 --> 02:43:57,690
Care website deadline of the end
of November.

2655
02:43:58,050 --> 02:44:00,870
The countdown clock Yes,
healthcare.gov. You have?

2656
02:44:03,630 --> 02:44:04,500
Literally a lot,

2657
02:44:04,529 --> 02:44:06,659
you have a good memory.
Unfortunately, I can't believe

2658
02:44:06,659 --> 02:44:08,339
you're asking me that smart
people

2659
02:44:08,700 --> 02:44:12,060
in positions of power, were
highly focused on the idea of

2660
02:44:12,240 --> 02:44:15,540
making sure the website worked.
And clearly it hasn't worked the

2661
02:44:15,540 --> 02:44:20,190
way you or many people would
hope. What can you tell us now

2662
02:44:20,220 --> 02:44:24,810
that that would give us some
confidence that the next few

2663
02:44:24,810 --> 02:44:27,240
weeks will be different from the
last few and that you guys have

2664
02:44:27,240 --> 02:44:28,230
figured out how to fix

2665
02:44:28,410 --> 02:44:30,870
it? It's a fair question. I
mean, obviously, there's no one

2666
02:44:30,870 --> 02:44:33,360
more frustrated and the
president of the website hasn't

2667
02:44:33,360 --> 02:44:36,690
lived up to our expectations.
But he has taken immediate

2668
02:44:36,690 --> 02:44:40,140
action of bringing in a team to
help supplement the team that's

2669
02:44:40,140 --> 02:44:43,560
there. Jeff signs who has a lot
of history in the business

2670
02:44:43,560 --> 02:44:46,980
community starting up companies
managing did an excellent job

2671
02:44:46,980 --> 02:44:49,590
when he worked for the
administration as performance

2672
02:44:49,590 --> 02:44:52,860
officer and two stances ahead of
the Office of Budget and

2673
02:44:52,860 --> 02:44:56,280
Management is over there now
full time working with a team of

2674
02:44:56,280 --> 02:44:59,370
innovators to try to correct the
problems and we are seeing

2675
02:44:59,370 --> 02:45:03,300
progress And it's complicated
and it's challenging but the

2676
02:45:03,300 --> 02:45:05,820
President has made it very very
clear that we're going to just

2677
02:45:05,820 --> 02:45:09,630
keep grinding away it until we
get it right and we are looking

2678
02:45:09,630 --> 02:45:12,210
towards the end of the month to
see substantial progress and,

2679
02:45:12,450 --> 02:45:14,970
and Jeff feels comfortable that
we are on target for that.

2680
02:45:15,630 --> 02:45:16,290
Screwed

2681
02:45:17,100 --> 02:45:19,620
well, you made her king.

2682
02:45:19,830 --> 02:45:20,700
Hello.

2683
02:45:21,390 --> 02:45:24,210
She's all a guy got one. All
right, tell me you're gonna get

2684
02:45:24,240 --> 02:45:28,110
objective reporting from any
network when you hear a

2685
02:45:28,110 --> 02:45:32,130
commercial like this on CB s,
this is CBS help their

2686
02:45:32,130 --> 02:45:38,610
loved ones. That story is next.
This portion of the CBS Evening

2687
02:45:38,610 --> 02:45:42,720
News is sponsored by Walmart,
where over 400 people are

2688
02:45:42,720 --> 02:45:45,780
promoted every day. That's the
real Walmart

2689
02:45:47,520 --> 02:45:48,810
promoted to the death

2690
02:45:48,810 --> 02:45:54,330
camp was promoted every day. And
that's the real Walmart. Girl.

2691
02:45:54,330 --> 02:45:55,740
It's just a promotion machine.

2692
02:45:55,770 --> 02:45:57,720
I think we should end it right
there, John.

2693
02:45:58,170 --> 02:45:59,040
Okay, we can do that.

2694
02:46:00,150 --> 02:46:03,240
That is there you go. Your
mainstream media, just a

2695
02:46:03,240 --> 02:46:06,420
promotion machine is getting
worse by the minute. You can

2696
02:46:06,420 --> 02:46:12,000
only turn to the people that you
trust the most. Which hopefully

2697
02:46:12,000 --> 02:46:16,380
is us sometimes. Well, we
certainly try. We really do. We

2698
02:46:16,380 --> 02:46:21,360
read. We analyse and we take no
money from nobody but us, us

2699
02:46:21,360 --> 02:46:25,050
guys and gals. Thank you so
much. And we'll do it again on

2700
02:46:25,050 --> 02:46:27,750
Sunday. I do have a couple of
things I'm working on. I got

2701
02:46:27,750 --> 02:46:33,840
some Euro land stuff. Agenda 21
Common Core stuff. Kind of

2702
02:46:33,840 --> 02:46:37,320
funny. This is what your kids
will be dealing with in school.

2703
02:46:37,980 --> 02:46:43,770
Unless we can put a stop to it.
And, or L and I'll be coming to

2704
02:46:43,770 --> 02:46:47,550
you from Amsterdam. Hey, that's
right, leaving tomorrow.

2705
02:46:48,420 --> 02:46:49,950
Even on a jet plane. That's

2706
02:46:49,950 --> 02:46:54,120
right. So the all all things
willing, everything goes well,

2707
02:46:54,120 --> 02:46:57,540
we should be talking to you from
Amsterdam. And I think we have a

2708
02:46:58,470 --> 02:47:00,540
like a 10 hour difference
because they haven't changed in

2709
02:47:00,540 --> 02:47:04,620
timezone and for Daylight Saving
Time. It'd be fun. So I'll start

2710
02:47:04,620 --> 02:47:10,740
at 7pm in the morning. Coming to
you for FEMA Region six here in

2711
02:47:10,740 --> 02:47:14,100
Austin, Texas. In the morning.
I'm Adam curry

2712
02:47:14,160 --> 02:47:17,280
and from Northern Silicon
Valley, which is FEMA Region

2713
02:47:17,280 --> 02:47:21,840
nine. Is that where we are? I
don't think so. It's depressing.

2714
02:47:21,870 --> 02:47:22,800
I'm John C. Dvorak.

2715
02:47:22,800 --> 02:47:25,560
We'll talk to you again on
Sunday right here on the best

2716
02:47:25,560 --> 02:47:28,530
podcast in the universe. No
agenda.

2717
02:47:35,370 --> 02:47:43,500
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