They take it as truth they take it as true take it as truth.
Truth destroyed,
destroyed computers destroy computers. Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak. Thursday, December 19 2013. Time Period Gitmo
nation media assassination episode 575.
This is no agenda,
reading the report and recommendations of the
President's Review Group on Intelligence and Communications
Technology so you don't have to hear and feel region six in the
morning. I'm Adam curry.
And for brother Silicon Valley where it's sunny, it's cold, and
everything is going great for the locals. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Dragwon.
Buzzkill.
We're happy everything's going great for the locals.
Going great for the locals. Wow.
Yeah, since everyone there is rich, living it up Silicon
Valley.
I'm one is reflecting that. Apparently. It's just horrible.
I'm lucky to be here. I'm lucky to be alive. I'm so sick. This
is this is now
you're still sick. Wait a minute. You were sick on the
last show?
I didn't tell. I only told you after the show that I was sick.
I didn't even tell you during the show. Because?
No, because you sound fine. And you sound fine. Now I think
you're faking it.
Yeah. Here's what happened one week ago, after the show on
Thursday. I went to a fundraising event for ham, the
Health Alliance ham, it's h a m am Pam harm, harm, harm. The
Health Alliance for Austin musicians which gives gives
health care to 1000s of Austin musicians who are poor and on
the street. Even those who aren't on the street can't
afford it. And I got sick some someone gave me something some
horrible bug and it really should kiss. Not just
handshaking, kissing is not where your
handshake is worse handshake. And
so it was really really bad. And you know it was in my head
sinuses and then we did the show on Sunday and I kind of
collapsed after the show. I've been in bed and really weird
like my back hurt and my my lungs are congested. And then
this report comes in yesterday from Houston, the only
on 11 News.
Police officials here with the health department are on a
mission to find out more about this mystery, flu like illness.
They don't want to scare the public but there is no question
this is serious. And it's raising both questions and
concerns. So far, there are eight confirmed victims and four
of those patients have died. They range in age from 41 to 68.
Now here's the thing, baffling doctors all of these patients
have had flu like and or pneumonia like symptoms and all
have tested negative for the flu sources are telling us tonight
that two of the surviving patients are being treated at
Conroe Regional Medical Centre and are very sick. We are being
told that doctors at this hospital and others in
montgomery county are being advised to use extra precaution
to prevent this from spreading. Sources say this illness also
appears to be causing kidney failure at this point. We do not
know if any of these patients had pre existing conditions. The
montgomery county health department is waiting on more
conclusive test results hoping to get a better handle on
exactly what they are dealing with. There you
go. Half of the people who have apparently what I have are dead.
flu like symptoms between the flu. Yeah, between the ages of
41 and 68. Kidney failure. I could keel over at any moment.
Right during the show. This would not be a good thing for
the future of this show.
No, we're not. But have no fear. I have a condom over my mic. So
I can't infect anyone on the show today. Everything should be
okay. But I knew I need to get better. I get the kids coming
tomorrow night then yeah, Christina is coming. Oh
yeah, it's gonna be nuthouse here. It's going to be crazy.
Let's the kids would kids. You talking about my kid Christina
and her girlfriend. They're coming from Rotterdam. They're
coming for two weeks.
What happened? And I kid Dixon? What? Didn't you have a
boyfriend and Dixon or something like that? Dylan? Dexter,
Dexter, Dexter, they're having a Dexter. Dexter is
Dixie is doing great actually. They're still very good friends.
And they talk a lot and Dexter went from because it's very hard
to find a job and he's he's very in England in the UK and very
hard to find work. So he for a while was a Domino's Pizza
delivery. But of course, like all good Domino's Pizza
delivery, he essentially delivered weed along with the
pizza. And he did that for a while but he thought to step it
up a bit and he started growing weed in like his dad's apartment
in London. Dexter is a very entrepreneurial and young man.
Did he get busted?
I think his dad busted him. But then he was like, Oh, I can't
believe so. When was was growing weed in your apartment? Dad?
That's not I guess he finally fessed up and just dexterous,
funny. Yeah, we'd like Dexter. Well, there you go. But anyway
that this is a weird I have I have a body buzz you know, my
whole body is kind of buzzing so I don't know maybe I had a body
buzz Yeah. Yeah, so my body's buzzing. Me buzz would you like
your your fingertips and your your arms? Just buzz a little
bit? Is this weird? Really? You've never heard of a body
buzz? I'm sorry. Well, anyway, but I'm here and I spend all day
in bed down
fine. So you don't have pneumonia?
Well, pneumonia is the lung thing, isn't it? Yeah, yeah.
Well, I had severe pain in my my shoulders and my lungs, and I
have I'm coughing and it's congested.
You sound fine. This can't be bad. By the way. This is the old
you sound fine, then you're dead.
Can you just say I sound crappy. That made me feel much better.
I'd be better
idea. Jeez. Anyway, so I didn't know what they don't know what
this is. It's just something like some crazy thing going
around. I have no idea. Only in Texas. Well, it's
Houston is where the report came from Sinaloa
you're in Austin. So Oh, yeah, we're
far enough away. Sure.
Were there any Houstonian musicians?
You know, it was it was a bunch of rich douchebags. And the
whole idea is to kind of extract money from them. I do the whole
thing that I didn't like it at all. I didn't like how that went
down. The whole thing was not not fun for me. I got to talk to
these people. I'm not going to participate. If it's like that.
It's we don't need to go into it. But I you know, I tried to
spend some time on some some charity, you know, we tried to
do something.
And it was not I was gonna kill you.
Can you just give me a read for a second? Because there's I got
a home on you. That is crazy. I want to see if I can get rid of
it.
I don't know. It could be any home. I mean, it could be from
anything because I'm over on the other side of the plates. It
could be the machine hum and it could be I don't know. Here's
the kind of for people out there. Listen to the show. We
got a few. Let me give you a little clip tease. All right. We
got coming up anti American Mid Pacific on Russia today. All
right, no one cares.
And we're fine. I think it's on your end. I don't know what's
going on. It doesn't. It's not all that bad.
I mean, it's buzzing to me. Rooms buzzing alright. So what
should you maybe do? Maybe your body buzz
could be the body buzz. All right. So where do you want to
start? Because I already teased what I've been doing what I
spent yesterday, struggle, really ploughing through 308
pages of the report and recommendations of the
President's Review Group on Intelligence and Communications
Technologies.
Which is kind of weird to start with that. I have a couple of
little I did some reading myself and I have a couple of things to
go into. But yours is probably what did you like is more like
what what is your read Oscar Wilde?
No, I read the the the indicted or the court case that said that
the NSA was violating the Constitution.
Good. Let's start there. And let me just to get everyone all
clued in Hold on a second. I have this. I have a clip to set
us up. And then I want to
get your clip to set it up. I want to play my clip to set it
up because my my thought went to a dead end. All right. Well,
well,
I'm glad you read that complaint because I haven't here's my
setup. A federal
judge in Washington ruled today that the government's collection
of phone records of millions of Americans is likely
unconstitutional. It is the first time that a federal court
has ruled against the once secret surveillance programme,
which was exposed by National Security Agency leaker Edward
Snowden. In a blistering attack, Judge Richard Leon said he has
little doubt that the author of our Constitution, James Madison,
would be aghast at what Judge Leon said amounts to an
unreasonable search.
Okay, that's my setup. What is yours?
Well, mine is Glen. Glen. Glen. Glen when I fall who was an
appalling you know, Obama bot extraordinaire, since you wrote
a book on him. Yes. And so I heard this clip and then I went
and listened to he had a similar cup to one you played from
France van cat, where the guy goes, he quotes from the from
the complaint, which actually discusses, the guy does say it
sounds it's Orwellian. Yes, that's in the complaint, right.
It's in the complaint, so the French guys, but I felt soft
peddled the whole thing so much that I thought that she was kind
of wrong. But then I went and looked at the thing. This word
got me to read it, and she was actually right and probably more
objective, but let's play her little
thing. A federal judge ruled today that the National Security
Agency's bulk collection of phone records is likely
unconstitutional. Judge Richard Leon set the Massa round up of
calls was an unreasonable search and violated Americans
reasonable expectation of privacy, but he put his decision
on hold pending a likely government appeal. We'll have
more on today's ruling right after the news summary.
Okay. I thought that her use of the word likely unconstitutional
was was kind of a soft pet.
That was the same they did in the in the CBS thing. They also
he also used the likely word.
The judge used it. I mean, he essentially said, okay, so that
was not misreporting as I was suspecting it was. He
essentially what he did was he he said, This is horrible.
They're obvious. He says he never said it was a fact. But he
says his obviously they have a great case here. They're going
to it's a Fourth Amendment violation of Fifth Amendment
violation and a First Amendment violation, which nobody brought
up in the news. But the most most newsworthy or most
interesting thing for the no agenda, thinking is this little
tidbit that everybody seemed to overlook. Nobody wanted to bring
it up. And I'll read it for a from the page
that before you do that, who is this law? Who was fired who has
filed this lawsuit?
Larry Clayman, founder of freedom, watch, okay, so
this is a guy who sues a lot. Public Interest
organisation. Yeah, he's in he does just to get Yeah, to get
the Supreme Court. Right. Okay. He does the same thing as the
ACLU does, only he beat him to it. In fact, people have talked
about him beating the ACLU to the punch on this right. Which
makes you wonder, but anyway, but here's the thing about it.
It's not just climbing or claiming. It says, It is the
attorney Larry Clayman, founder of freedom watch a public
interest charges and Charles strange. Now, here's the
interesting part. Charles Strange is the father of Michael
strange, a cryptologist. technician for the NSA, and
support personnel for Navy SEAL Team Six, who was killed in
Afghanistan when his helicopter was shot down in 2011. Oh,
that's interesting. Don't you think that is kind of
newsworthy? That would be clip of the day if it was a clip? I
don't have a clip. No, I
know. But that's Wow. That's a great find. And he's a CO CO
Charles Strange is the CO lead complainant or complaint
plaintiff, plaintiff, plaintiff, he's the CO plaintiff. And they
just mentioned, we're a bunch of lawyers, aren't we? We're not
lawyers. We're not pretending to be the plaintiff law. Yeah. And
besides that, we got it right. So anyway, so that was kind of
interesting. And it says they were shut down in 2011. They
assert, which is strange and claiming and how they got it got
this did happen. They asserted their subscribers Verizon
Wireless, and they bring suit against the NSA Department of
Justice, several executives, President Obama holder, Keith
Alexander and the District Judge Robert venison, as well as
Verizon and CEO. Good. This is gonna be a really nice case. But
the judge himself stayed his he filed the injunction.
Yeah. But he said, but but I'm going to leave it open because
there's going to be an appeal anyway.
He says you're going to stay at because otherwise, it's just
gonna be a lot more paperwork. Right? So he gives us
government.
This guy is just trying to make a name for himself this judge or
Well, no, the
way you read this thing. This is a very good case. Uh huh. The
judges tried the judges just, he just looked at and so yeah, this
is also legit. It's very well done.
So there's a couple things. This is very interesting. I didn't
know about the father of the of the dead navy seal. And why
would he specifically be filing just for the exact same? It's
the same complaint, right?
Yeah. Well, I was thinking about that, too. When I read this.
Yeah. Here's that is what they're after. And this is
what's why it's going to be a fun case to watch. They're going
for discovery. Yeah, just so we can feel man. Yeah, yeah.
Thanks. Something's fishy about that bullcrap. That week when it
came out in 2011. We talked about it extensively on the show
how half the team was wiped out in this crazy helicopter crash
out of the blue. What were they doing? What
wasn't the crash that was shot down? Yeah, they were brought
down by a stinger or aldehyde or something bad or harsh? But
yeah, well, of course it had USA on it. Okay, don't make no
stingers.
So I think strangers after after.
That's good. Now it's interesting because it's, I
didn't pull any clips from it. This guy who's the the other
plaintiff from freedom. Okay. He was on CNN last night. And Don
Lemon kicked him off. He actually kicked him off the toll
this producer guy shot his mic. And it's it's marginally funny,
but it shows just how, how already mainstream was going to
try and shut this case down, and how not a single word is uttered
about this father. I think that that that is a great find. It
turns out however, if you listen to Dianne Feinstein here, that
there was another case just a month ago, where exactly the
opposite took place, or then an opposite ruling. And she really
wants this to go to the Supreme Court.
Well, this was not the first time last month, there was a
hearing of a case, the case of someone providing financial and
other support to Al Shabaab, it took place in the Southern
District of California, the judge was Jeffrey Miller, he
found that that two to 215 programme was constitutional.
And the point of issue was specifically that. So you have
one case a month ago, which has not been reported on that I've
seen and you have the case of a few days ago, which has been
reported on extensively. And what does this all mean? This
means that clearly, it's going to go up on appeal, and go to
the Supreme Court, and I very much would urge the Court to
take the case.
Okay, so this, I think, is a setup, John, whichever case, you
look at the the spider in the middle of the web, but Dianne
Feinstein wants it to go to the Supreme Court. So it's a setup.
Not necessarily. You're you're saying we're doomed to be upset
that you're saying that this judge who wrote is very nice
piece is corrupt or in some none? Like why No.
Well, he I think what what I, the way it's been reported, he
stayed his judgement, because be too much paperwork, because it's
going to be appeal anyway. So he knows. The whole point is we
need to take it one step higher, which I guess would ultimately
be the Supreme Court. Well, I
think yeah, I think he's assuming that right. And it
seems like What are you implying, though, is the setup
so the Supreme Court can say no, it's fine. We can we get to hell
with the Fourth Amendment. You got Scalia in there? I don't
think that's going to happen. Yeah, you
know what, it's this is what I've learned. And let me lead in
with this clip today and investigative panel raised some
serious concerns and recommended some dramatic changes at the
NSA. The 46 recommendations spelled out in the 300 page
report are surprising and sweeping. The panel chosen by
President Obama is urging that the NSA stop collecting and
mining phone calls from Americans. The advisors say that
surveillance programme creates potential risks to public trust,
personal privacy and civil liberty. They also urge that
spying on foreign citizens, including world leaders must be
carried out by a duly enacted law or executive order, and must
be excessively directed at protecting national security
interests. Okay, so that's the lead into this 308 page report,
which I ploughed through.
You read this thing before you do it before you go there. On my
desk interesting to do you have the list of the people that are
on this, this Do people have reproduced this report. You're a
bunch of white students. Hello,
this is how my this is how it starts off. Of course I have
that. Okay. I
want you to read those names because it includes of all
people that guy Richard Clark, well,
look, no, no, no backup, backup backup. All on scroll to that.
Okay. Richard Clark, you want to explain who Richard Clark is
Dick Clark?
Yeah, Dick Clark, who's been we've seen him since we began
this show. This character has been on and off the news. And
he's, he's essentially he's an ex CIA guy who was just began
his career in media, by bitching about the fact that he knew all
about the that Osama bin Laden was a bad guy and he was part of
he was him and that bearded guy that other character went on and
on about how they nobody listened to them when they said
this is going to happen. And then and then he went from one
thing to another and Richard Clarke finally ended up seeing
that there was a bonanza in cybercrime, right, anything
right?
Okay. That's just one of the names. The next name is Michael
J. Morrell.
Wherever we heard that name. Come on, he's
another x agency guy, isn't he?
He's the guy who's on his way out. He's the Alright, He's the
assistant. He's the Deputy Director of the CIA. 33 years
he's on his way out gonna write a great book. He did his first
interview ever. Recently. You'll recall that Yep. Then we have a
Jeffrey R stone is the next on the list. This is the this is
the cover. This is I think the guy he wrote most of this is the
lawyer of course from Chicago. Chicago Law School. Got to have
your Chicago shield in there. Very Very famous, and very well
respected lawyer, I would say if you look at his book of
knowledge entry, you can see all of the things that he has done,
but I thought, you know, the, the Chicago connection makes a
lot of sense. And of course, he's in a number of the boards
of a number of interesting organisations and you right,
being the operative
word, yeah. Then we have Cass Sunstein of Cass Sunstein is of
course, the husband of our current ambassador to the United
Nations, Susan power, powers power. Cass Sunstein authored
the paper where he said that the authorities, the federal
authorities need to infiltrate groups of people talking crazy,
like us to
another, we're never gonna get infiltrated. We don't have
guests. All right.
So Cass Sunstein is a is a known operative when it comes to
disinformation. And he writes about it this is this is what he
wants what he specialty. Then Peter Swire is the other guy who
to round out this list. He is professor of business, I
believe, but most importantly, he's a big wave over there at
the he's a senior fellow at the Centre for American Progress. So
he is a super, super left wing Obama bot, who got thrown in
there, these guys were handpicked. And this is this is
almost like the 911 Commission. You know, it's really it's it's
not the people you want to have some kind of independence.
That was somebody that somebody on Democracy Now they have a
clip, but it's not important, mentioned that the the entire
operation was was office and worked under the under clapper.
Oh, he was the manager of the whole thing makes
total sense. Makes total sense. And I have marked up this entire
document. We're not going to do all of that. But I encourage you
to go to 575, that na shownotes.com and take a look at
it. And I've highlighted relevant, relevant passages. And
I think I kind of know where they're going with this. And the
way the media is reporting on this is this panel. And no one
ever says who's on I find that interesting. We're the as far as
I know, we're the only media outlet that has said, hey, if
the X is the CIA guy, it's Cass Sunstein. It's Richard Clarke.
Are you kidding me? No, they all say, handpicked by the White
House. Even Glenn Greenwald hasn't mentioned the names,
which leads me to believe they're just parroting what they
hear. No one is no one actually ever looks at this stuff. And
let it know. And by the way, I almost did die ploughing through
this. It's really it's a lot. There's a lot of legalese. But
it's a very interesting history of how FISA and the F and the n
the Foreign Intelligence Service court came to be there is it is
well worth reading, just to understand, because it really
goes back to the 1970s to the Church Committee, where that's
where the FISA Court was created. And there's a lot of
that history in here and I cross reference everything even put
some links into the book of knowledge. And there's a couple
of things that, you know, they start off by saying, well,
traditional distinctions between foreign and domestic are very
unclear today, you know, there's a lot of this fuzzy wuzzy stuff.
And essentially, this document is saying the same thing three
times over, which I think is what most good documents do, is,
you know, you say it short, you say it a little bit longer. And
then you say it really, really long with all of your sources
and all of your important stuff in there. And as with
everything, every recommendation they make everything they say
should change, which the media is running with as well, this,
this panel says the NSA should no longer store the data, the
metadata in the document itself, which is bearing down on who
this has got to be page like more like 79 and we'll see if I
can scroll to a real fast.
Second, third party,
the NSA itself is happy with the recommendation it says that in
the document is happy with the recommendation of not having to
store all this data themselves because a it's very costly, and
it's really complicated. B They can't get it from everybody. And
so they would much more prefer that they had real time in this
document real time interfaces to all all providers data so that
they can do this on the fly when they have the appropriate
approval which will be just as simple as ever
And they want to use a distributed database and
everybody else's storage
facility. Yes. And it says in the document, the NSA is happy
with this recommendation. They wanted to do it anyway. It
literally says that in the document. So for the media to
say, Oh, this is Oh, they boy, they hit him on the phone, those
wrap their knuckles didn't make bullshit. They give me exactly
what they want, exactly what they want. And here's the thing
that we're the legalese that is coming into play and why I think
that this is go and this has been to the Supreme Court
multiple times the Fourth Amendment, the Supreme Court
ruled that wiretapping is not unconstitutional against the
Fourth Amendment. This is what this has already been hashed
out, many, many times. And they just it's we're like the boiling
frogs. You know, this is just another one more, we got to go
through one more step than we really got all these stupid
human resources. And the approach is very interesting
chapter one principles in this document. The United States
Government must protect at once two different forms of security,
national security and personal privacy. Now, here's the
trickiness John, and you're gonna love what they're doing
here. In the American, I'm reading from this document in
the American tradition, the word security has had multiple
meanings. Uh huh. Were you aware of this, John?
I am now
in contemporary parlance, it often refers to national
security or Homeland Security. Thus understood it signals the
immense importance of counteracting threats that come
from those who seek to do the nation and its citizens harm.
One of the government's most fundamental responsibilities is
to protect this form of security broadly understood. Now, and
then it goes into whole thing about September 11. At the same
time, the idea of security refers to a quite different and
equally fundamental value, captured in the Fourth Amendment
to the United States Constitution. The right of the
people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not
be violated. This form of security is a central component
of the right of privacy, which the Supreme Court Justice Louis
Brandeis famously described as the right to be let alone the
most comprehensive of rights and the most valued by civilised
men. And then they go into set to literally look at the
etymology of the word security. It might seem puzzling or a
coincidence of language, that the word security embodies such
different values, but the etymology of the word solves the
puzzle. Haha, there is no coincidence here. In Latin the
word Securus offers the core meanings which include free from
care quiet, easy, and also tranquil, free from danger and
safe. People who are at physical risk because of a threat of
external violence are by definition in danger, they are
not safe. So to people made insecure by their own government
in their persons, houses, papers and effects can hardly be free
from care or tranquil. And indeed, the first sentence of
the Constitution juxtaposes the two values explicitly using the
word secure. Meaning and now they're saying secure means
liberty and prosperity and the right to the pursuit of
happiness, to they're trying to twist the word secure into
something the government has to protect you from and against
yourself, so that you can have secure ie liberty. And they're
saying that the secure the the meaning of secure kind of also
means you have to have liberty. So we have to protect that by
looking at your shit. Does that make any sense?
Well, I can see what what it's trying to make sense, but it
doesn't in fact, make sense and and to go back to the etymology
of well known terms, I mean, you can't is like pretty, it's
pretty specious, I'd say is it's like as Jimmy it's totally
specious. It's a total gimmick. And so they're trying to find
anything they can to rationalise what they're up to. Well, I
mean, I was watching just as a side clip here, which is part of
this. I was, saw Chris Matthews had Obama on and Obama and the
weird thing was Matthews had then it was a sit down someplace
other than the studio.
This is that tour that he did remember, I remember I told you
that he was doing a tour on the President's Right,
right. Exactly what it was. Yeah. And so Matthews is like
his mouth was kind of a gape. The whole time that Obama said
it, well, he has those kind of like, well, no, I think he was
actually stunned. Oh, because he had that look of the is a
cartoon looked at the Simpsons used ones where the mouth is
kind of open. be like yeah in shock Ah, but it because you
can't say anything because you're like the number one Obama
but currently in the in the MSNBC place but but listen to
this nonsense from Obama
I've said before and I will say again the NSA actually does a
very good job about not engaging in domestic surveillance, not
reading people's emails not listening to the contents of
their phone calls outside of our borders, the NSA is more
aggressive. It's not constrained by laws. And part of what we're
trying to do over the next month or so is having done an
independent review and brought a whole bunch of folks, civil
libertarians and lawyers and others to examine what's being
done. I'll be proposing some self restraint on the NSA and to
initiate some reforms that can give people more confidence.
So his his panel of outside people is that
John Steen is the libertarian. How did how does Obama as the
president, how does he How do you for anybody impose self
restraint on somebody on the basis of someone? Well, madam, I
want you to restrain yourself, I'm going to impose my will on
making you have to restrain yours. It's not possible. This
is bullcrap,
the way, the way it's described in this document is through. And
of course, this is where it gets interesting through the
executive orders. And executive orders should be shouldn't make
you should constrain you to do certain things. But if if you
look what's happened, they're reaching back to 2010 2011
executive orders that just show the setup to this. If you didn't
know better, and maybe we don't know better, it feels like the
whole thing is a setup just to solidify the way that they've
always wanted to start with which is which is really to have
full access. Just the state have. Yeah, well, yes. And have
the distributed database, and good to go.
Yeah, that's makes a lot cheaper, better things do that
money. The
The interesting thing really is, though, to go back and see the
history now really this started in in 1928. This is when the
Supreme Court first started looking at the emerging
technologies of telephony. And what and this is when
wiretapping was deemed not a search within the meaning of the
Fourth Amendment, then in 1978 76, I think we had the
Church Committee. And again, is it went to the Supreme Court,
and it came, it keeps coming back. We're not We the People
are not going to win this one. All the all that is really
happening here is the systems are being set up. So the minute
it involves national security, imminent death, or something,
that's kind of their their main things, then all bets are off,
we can go immediately. And there is there will be a change to
national security letters, or that is the proposed
recommendation of which by the way, 60 are written every single
day. The FBI writes 60 National Security did in 2012, according
this document over 30,000 National Security Letters.
That's a lot of people that need to shut up.
I think this is terrible, of course, and something's got to
be done about those national security. Well,
there is a recommendation in here that they would have, you
know, yet another secret judge who would, you know, take a look
at that. And it shouldn't just be the FBI, which I of course
agree with. But I don't see just using
it as a, you know, this is when I was doing diag in the 90s when
I was doing this radio show real computing. We had an FBI guy on
and this was when they were trying to push through. It was
the clipper chip. It wasn't a clip it was some other thing. It
was something that spies on your TV viewing or something with
some ridiculous technology and made the assertion and the guy
really couldn't disagree with me but the FBI would love for their
job to just be so easy that all they have to do is just tap
everyone's phone listen and figure out who the bad guys
aren't go arrest them as opposed to actually doing police work.
Yeah. They because what's if you have a choice if you if you're
in law enforcement, you have a choice between just spying on
everybody like the Stasi in East Germany,
just kicking back drink some coffee and drinks have
doughnuts, wait for the light to pop on.
And then a light Yeah. And then you go bust to get thrown in
jail, throw the keys away and then you go to wait for the next
light to come on. You don't have to do any work. You don't even
have to be trained. And this is ideally what they want. Yeah.
And because when they have to do police work, they suck at it
apparently and they don't want to improve their their
capabilities. And
let me remind everybody in the Time magazine cover interview of
Mark Zuckerberg ERG, and I think this is again, the only
programme there's ever really discussed this. In, in the in
this cover article, there's Robert Muller, then director of
the FBI pops his head around the corner walls, Zuckerberg being
interviewed and says, Hey, I was in the building, just you know,
want to say hi. Because that's how I like it. And yeah, and
there is language in this document, specifically saying
that if people and it's very key to what this document think
does, besides the make it easy for the NSA to tap into
everybody, if this would become a recommendation or a law or
anything, again, this is just a document. But you know how these
things go, nothing is by chance with the Obama administration.
So it's setting up the NSA for much easier work, which they
like, as we've already identified, it's also setting up
the conversation for well, if if you're giving all your
information to other third parties anyway, and you're not
worried about what they're doing with it necessarily, then why
should it be a problem for that to be searched? That that will
be the next conversation? And then ultimately, let me see if I
can find
Well, you know, they've already come up with some stories that
have shown up on the media, where the NSA has turned over
data to the IRS to bus people and it turned over data on
protest groups. Apparently, the what was the thing in New York
of the protests from Occupy Wall occupy was busted but so they're
already doing this. And I think they sneak these things out
everyone's we'll see if anybody squawks about it. But But listen
to media doesn't say crap.
This in a series of decisions in the 1970s, the Supreme Court
held that individuals have, quote, no reasonable expectation
of privacy, in information they voluntarily share with third
parties, such as banks and telephone companies, explain
Facebook explain, explaining that, quote, what a person
knowingly exposes to third parties is, quote, not a subject
of Fourth Amendment protection. And then in Miller versus United
States court applied this reasoning to bank records in
Smith versus Maryland. It extended it to an individual's
telephone calling records. This is this is history. There's
they're just giving us fact they're throwing it in your
face, and you have no privacy slave, shut up. This has been
decided. So we can go back again. But I don't The only time
it changed was recently in 2012. With the GPS device being
attached to the guy's car. Do you recall that right that that
was seen as a breach of someone's privacy under the
Fourth Amendment? That was actually Sonia Sotomayor,
Justice Sotomayor, as she wrote that in her opinion, but
otherwise, you have no right to privacy with any information you
give to a third party. Now the problem is, of course, that we
can't do without a lot of third parties.
Like, well, you're making it and the system is making it worse.
Yes.
Thank you. Ted Kaczynski, rules once again. It always comes back
to the Unabomber. I can't help myself and
gentlemen of the jury, you have to realise that Mr. Curry is a
huge protege of Ted Kaczynski.
Right. Well, I don't know if you will, you probably did hear.
Hear the news that happened? Or came out this morning. Here we
go talking about centralization.
Well, sure. It's certainly know what consumers want to hear with
the holiday shopping season. Now in high gear. As you said the
security breach involves stolen credit card and debit
information. And according to the Secret Service, it could
impact millions of people who shop at Target at stores all
across the country and tonight at this Target store at seventh
and fig shoppers we talked to or thinking twice now about using
their credit after hearing what investigators say appears to
have happened here a breach they say that may go back as far as
Black Friday. Now somehow investigators believe cyber
criminals hacked into the cyber criminal systems at targets
retail
this by the way is a very interesting report from KTLA and
I want to play the rest of it because they have two men on the
street interviews. And it is it literally is a no agenda guy and
then all the rest. Those two people this is about supposedly
40 million credit card slash debit card numbers stolen from
point of sale systems at Target which of course is the problem
with your forced centralization of money which is not always
necessary. There are ways around Boris
we know that's where you swipe your card. Give your personal
information including your pin number. Now how they did it
isn't clear yet. The big concern of course, is that these
criminals may be using the information to create fake cards
or use a person's pin number to get into their ATM and take out
money. This has happened in other retailers in the past and
at least one construction have cut this down. I apologise and
we're told us that's why he only shops with cash.
Yay. I just deal with cash now
that's the safest way to go about shopping for me anyways
okay that's our no agenda guy are you ready? Are you ready for
the rest
that's kind of like your life they could like steal your
information and take take that's like they have they're taking
your life they can take your identity they take your life
because out here your identity is everything your identity was
what matters because that's who you are.
That's right keep your identity safe. Keep your ID cards don't
become an invalid in society. Yeah, cash people we got to get
back to cash this is crazy. I I shopped at Target The one time I
go they steal the numbers we bought the money Yeah, we bought
it we bought a Christmas lights for the house the decorated for
the kids went to target the one time I go okay, anyway, the
recommendations are very the only one that the media is able
to pull out that makes any sense that makes it sound like this
panel. This blue ribbon panel did anything is the one where
they say oh well you know it should be a third party it
should either be the carriers themselves or a third party and
I was looking at the the big circle jerk fast to the Silicon
Valley douchebags at the white house the other day
can you play a clip I have of that? Is this was dude seemed to
me to be it was yeah Jana if you saw any of the videos no I did I
want to finish the thought and then okay, there's a bit of okay
go off and don't want to lose my train of thought on
well then write it down and make a mark put the tie your shoelace
okay the it dawned on me that looking at the list and of
course I saw the video and actually have a 35 seconds of
audio that I wanted to play from it the people missing you know
there was no Cisco wasn't there you know the people that really
matter who are really part of the backbone of the internet.
These guys weren't they it was Marissa Meyer who was
strategically placed you know, she looked up pretty. Eric
Schmidt is right across from the present and then we have the
Netflix guy, and we have the Salesforce really no no, this
was a pitch this is a pitch as to who can store all this data
as far as I'm concerned. This was not anything else other than
Hey, let's go hang out at the White House and these guys are
dicks let me play my little 35 seconds here. And I'll tell you
what's happening so you can follow along it's kind of hard
to hear this is the pool is allowed to the pool videos
allowed to be shot and the President is making some joke
about the house of cards and then the Netflix guy goes my
clip well then I'm setting it up that we have the same no plant
plant and the Netflix guy goes to Academy and then Eric Schmidt
is laughing like a moron it's true like he's about to jump
over and suck the president off It's so scary.
But the advanced copies of House of Cards
are willing to do a little cameo cameo Well, I wish things were
that ruthlessly efficient
just guys getting a lot of stuff done
Eric Schmidt is a is a weenie boy. He's a little suck up
little weenie pussy boy. Did you
see him? It was pathetic. Oh,
and these are the people you trust anything with immediately.
Sean Google opt out of I'm cancelling my Netflix for this
just for that one guy.
So they had it set up. So Biden was sitting next to Marissa
Meyer. Yeah. Just a horn dog sitting next to the only blonde
kind of cute blonde. Yeah. And then on the other side, by the
way, by the way, by the way. Sheryl Sandberg,
Paula. Marissa looked hot. She looks but she needs
she's photogenic. That's all. That's it.
But she needs little posture training because now it looks
like they looked like she was put there. Like, oh, here's a
chick that was she needs to figure out how to sit. You know,
but she looks hot. She's photogenic. Alright.
photogenic. very photogenic. She wants to realise that. You know,
she's ahead of me. Yeah. Did this Sheryl Sandberg who's
anything but photogenic? Yeah. Was over on the other side of
the other girl of Obama and there was somebody between Obama
and her I can't remember who some other guy
that Jarrett's in there and all the dicks.
It was just they were just yucking it up. They didn't have
any buddies. They were supposed to go there to tell us you You
know, just stopped the NSA from doing this. No, they weren't,
there was just, they would just go have it's a drinking club
and they were there to pitch. And I'm telling you, they were
there. So maybe Salesforce or someone wanted to pitch to store
all the data, because it can't the recommendations specifically
is a third party. But let me tell you, when these people they
have, they just want to suck up to the power. That's all that
they're doing there. Every single one of them. It was so
pathetic, please the video is linked in the show notes 575
that any shownotes.com Look at that video. It is so you can
tell you can see by the body and particularly Eric Schmidt was
mind boggling. This is one of the richest most powerful
technology people in the world. And he's completely molten goo.
But the fact that he's sitting across from the President, and
you know these people.
Oh, Dick, just think stuff.
Disgusting. It was pretty disgusting. I have to say,
here's to kind of move into the next phase here. Jake Tapper
just give you an idea of the conversation that will be the
this is the only thing that we'll keep talking about, even
on this document itself says, you really can't look at this
being a balance between security and privacy. Because it's the
same thing as you know, the word secure, is what it's all about.
But this is pretty much what, what what the media is going to
tell you.
You're talking about security versus liberty. Ultimately, you
don't hear John Boehner, your former boss complaining about
these NSA programmes. He's actually a very strong supporter
of them. Right and the same with a lot of Republicans. Yep, the
Rand Paul's of the world. And yes, you have commentators
talking about it. You have, you know, jerks like me covering it,
but the bottom line is, I think the American people honestly
want security over freedom. I really do when it comes to these
little thing.
Yeah. Oh, Jake Tapper. Nene. He knows slip
of the day.
Really? You sure know? Because I may have more.
No, no, you can't beat that one. Day that the following week.
I wanted to run
believable that anybody in that sort of situation would say
something like that, for one thing is presumptuous. I mean,
it's condescending. It's beneath contempt. The guy's a creep for
saying that.
That's what he does. All right, I
didn't know it was that bad. Now,
I've discovered something in looking lovely.
They'd rather be slaves under a strong government that protects
them because they're scared little bunnies can't use that
freedom. They want to be safe in little cages. You can't use that
word.
You can't use the S word. Do you know what slave means? The
people in America. Alright, now, here's what's interesting. This
is all about the NSA, one of our main thesis, DC, SCI, forums,
theory theoretical games, is that there is an ongoing battle
between agencies in particular the CIA and the NSA, the church
committee that was predominantly against the CIA. Now, this is
interesting, because this couldn't be a tit for tat,
ongoing battle that spans decades. In fact, Frank Church,
who, who led the Church Committee, and he was a senator
from Idaho, I believe. on Meet the Press said had the following
quote, and of course, there's no audio in the need to develop a
capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United
States government has perfected a technological capability that
enables us to monitor the messages that go through the
air. Now that is necessary and important to the United States
as we look abroad at enemies or potential and or potential
enemies. We must know at the same time, that capability at
any time could be turned around on the American people. And no
American would have any privacy left, such as the capability to
monitor everything, telephone conversations, telegrams, it
doesn't matter, there would be no place to hide if this
government ever became a tyrant. If a dictator ever took charge
in this country, the technological capacity the
intelligence community has given the government could enable it
to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight
back because the most careful effort to combine together in
resistance to the government, no matter how privately was done is
within the reach of the government to know such as the
capability of this technology. I don't want to see this country
ever go across that bridge. I know the capacity that is there
to make tyrannical tyranny total in America, and we must see to
it that this agency and that's the key and all agencies that
possess this technology operate within the law and under proper
supervision so that we never cross over that abyss. This is
the Abyss from which there is no return he was talking about
without mentioning it, the NSA after he fought the CIA in the
Church Committee. My feeling, John, is that this is just the
pendulum coming back at the NSA. Because the CIA CIA got such a
beating. This was about of course, the Pentagon Papers
ultimately came from from this church committee period. This is
about Watergate. It but it was all CIA and the NSA was quietly
building up and Here's Frank Church warning for exactly what
we're seeing now. Exactly what we're seeing. And then the
media, this is the thing that no one really, they knew it, but
they didn't really see it like that. Jake. Jake Tapper,
asshole. The media is so in. And I pulled a number of clips, I
felt it might my duty to pull clips from the CBS 60 minutes.
NSA piece, which started with the most hilarious thing I've
ever I've ever heard. This, by the way, is it something that in
general, we need to watch out for in journalism, and we'll
discuss after we hear it unprecedented
access to NSA headquarters, where we were able to speak to
employees who have never spoken publicly before. Full
disclosure, I once worked in the Office of the Director of
National Intelligence, where I saw firsthand how secretly the
NSA operates. It's often said, and all right,
this full disclosure thing, I see this a lot in reporting. And
it's like Kara Swisher would say, oh, full disclosure. I'm
married to a woman who's an executive at Google. Therefore,
now that I fully disclosed this, you can believe everything I
say. Have you noticed this trend? Just as funny
you say this because there's a clip I didn't pull, but I'll,
I'll reprise it. They run this and they ran this on democracy.
Now. I do have two clips from from this interview that was
done about the Washington Post Jeff Bezos in the connection to
the CIA where they're choosing.
That's the next piece. Yeah, well, I can't wait for that when
you
go to that. And they and they were talking to a professor of
journalism up in Ithaca. And I do have a clip from him. But I
don't have this part where he says, he says exactly that. He
says, but he doesn't say it in a sceptical way. You're saying it,
he says, Well, you know, a lot of this wouldn't be a problem if
they would just fully disclose every time you do an article on
the CIA that Jeff Bezos is associated with the CIA because
of their $600 million contract to do with the server farm for
the CIA. Well, and that was so out of the blue, I'm thinking
and I was thinking to myself, you know, exactly what you're
thinking, What good does it do? I mean, it's not I think it's a,
you have to mention it occasionally. But I think for
the most part in today's world, people can kind of know it's
becoming two together, or maybe you shouldn't be doing a story.
I know.
Thank you. It's becoming a meme. That if you as long as you say
full disclosure, people like oh, he disclosed it. That doesn't
mean that all of a sudden the reporting is going to be non
biassed, I got a great email from one of our producers. I had
already clipped this. And he said, Oh, Adam, just so you
know, this, John Miller, who was chosen to do the 60 minute piece
on the NSA. And by
the way, John Miller has, as far as I can tell, has never done
anything for 60 minutes except this Oh, why didn't they send in
one of their regular guys?
The answer, as part of the deal for CBS to get the exclusive the
NSA demanded the reporter be someone who had previously held
a security clearance. Because a security clearance means you
sign a lifetime non disclosure agreement that covers not just
classified information you may be privy to in your work, but
all classified information, even leaked classified information
that you've seen in your entire life. So him doing this with
this legally binding nondisclosure agreement, is the
reason why they let him in at all, so nothing that they could
classify whatever get out by through this reporter.
It's worse than that, because what it also indicates, which is
the crazy part of it, is that anything that Snowden revealed,
could not be used as a question.
Exactly. That's exactly correct. And so he could
not counter anything that whatever was said if he had
evidence to the contrary, based on these leaks, he couldn't
bring it up. Question Exactly. Is he'd be thrown in the slammer
and people and CBS put up with this bullshit. What is wrong
with these guys? It is just they have this Laurel Logan, who's an
obviously a corrupt reporter. And now we have this and these
guys expect people to take them seriously. Yes,
because we have become anaesthetised to the whole full
disclosure. You can't this is that you can't the full
disclosure would have been. I have a lifetime non disclosure
agreement I can't even ask about in information that has been
leaked because I can't even talk about it if it's classified,
and four, I am really in the nondisclosure. You can't say
that either. Exactly.
Exactly. So this is the Tiffany network. Well, oh wait, Walter
Cronkite just puked in his mouth. Or is it Edward R.
Murrow? I can't remember. Someone puked. It is
unconscionable that 22nd 15 seconds of Oh, full disclosure,
I used to work in the DNI office. Wow. Wow. Okay. So while
we're at it, he might as well just sell the lie. And when you
listen to and this is what's so beautiful, when you don't see
that guy's big head that John Miller's Big Head, filling up my
screen, my 4k screen. When you don't see his head, and you
listen, you can hear how he is. It's almost like it's scripted.
If a terrorist is suspected of having contacts inside the
United States, the NSA can query a database that contains the
metadata of every phone call made in the US going back five
years. So you understand then there might be a little
confusion among Americans who read in the newspaper, that the
NSA has vacuumed up the records of the telephone calls of every
man, woman and child in the United States for a period of
years. That sounds like spying on Americans.
Right? And that's wrong. That's absolutely wrong.
There's no you don't hear the call. You don't hear the call?
You don't see the name.
He's telling. He's giving him the answers. He's not asking
questions. You don't see
the names, you just see this number called that number.
This is not an interview. He isn't he's answering questions
that this number, the two from number, the duration of the call
and the date time group, that's all you get it all we can do is
tell the FBI, that number is talking to somebody who is very
bad, you have to go look at,
by the way, one of the recommendations in the report I
just remembered is that the and this is an extension of powers.
The recommendation is if the FBI if someone travels to the United
States, the NSA will be given 72 hours to continue to follow him,
instead of currently where they are supposedly supposed to stop
and then handed over to the FBI. So it's an extension of power 72
hours extra. All right.
I gotta interrupt you, for sure. Sure. As you're gone into the
Alexandria and is bullcrap, I think we can make a segment out
of this because during a hearing, Alexandria came up with
another analogy. Another bad analogy is kind of like the
excuse for using this metadata. Because I think that you
shouldn't use the analogy. And you didn't do any of these joke
analogies on 60 minutes. But this one here is just a much as
an eye roller as the submarine one billions
and billions of books of information that are out there.
There is no viable way to go through that information if you
don't use metadata. In this case, metadata is a way of
knowing where those books are in the library, and a way of
focusing our collection, the same that our allies do to look
at where are the bad books. From our perspective, from the
National Security Agency's perspective, what we do is get
great insights into the bad actors overseas.
I think we need to start burning books again. Bad books bad Well,
you know what we will turn into a segment here is something
about a bad book that New York
Daily News says the author of The Anarchist Cookbook wants his
work pulled from shelves, linked to last week's Colorado high
school shooting burn Areum Pauwels guide includes
instructions on making explosives burn it, I say
burn it. That's where we're that's where we're headed people
don't worry, don't worry.
Okay. Now, of course, you can't do anything in any kind of fear
based programme, unless you link it to 911. This is this is this
is our standard. This is how we do it. Here's how we roll. We
know it's a part of the talking points. Let's roll back to 911.
And these phone calls may go between different phone
companies. If you only go to one company, you'll see what that
phone company has, but you may not see what the other phone
company has or the other. So by putting those together, we can
see all of that, essentially at one time.
Before 911 Did we have this capability? We did not? Is it a
factor? Was it a factor?
I believe it was what
General Alexander
no wait now listen to this. Now this is interesting. So this is
this is typical. Don't play with that thing. Jon's annoying when
I'm trying to think
I was just dropping a coin in a jar.
This is very annoying when you have a interviewer ask a
question. And then the subject answers the question, but then
they turn down the his volume and then over his answer. Say
what the answer is, this is this is the Worst, lowest form of
journalism. There is.
I believe it was.
What General Alexander is talking about is that two of the
911 hijackers Khalid al midbar, and the wife alHazmi. Were in
touch with an al Qaeda safehouse in Yemen. The NSA did not know
their calls were coming from California as they would today.
I think this was the factor that allowed mudhar.
So did you hear what they just did there?
Yeah, yeah, they took there. He was saying something. But it
wasn't even it was. Yeah, they were they were amplifying a
point. Yes, using a trick. But we're using a TV trick without
even voicing over the guy's actual comments. And you see,
and you see, explain it to the idiots watching the
show. And we don't even know what he said. All right, if
you're a sysadmin, the war is on you got all kinds
of figures out there about how much he took how many documents?
We've been told 1.7
million. And by the way, this number is it was it's the CBS
number. We have no idea where this comes from. There's even
Glenn Greenwald on rough has not given us this number. This is an
interesting number. We have no idea about this, but okay.
I wouldn't dispute that.
How is that possible?
So the people who control that the access to those machines are
called system administrators, ah sis admins may have passwords
that give them the the ability to go around those security
measures. And, and that's what Snowden did.
I think, you know, how, here's,
here's my prediction, okay,
I have a prediction about this to go ahead.
Sis admins are going to be required to get licenced. And
they will all receive what a variation of a national security
letter that will require them to, to not do certain things,
report certain things and actually be a partner with the
government. You know,
how in in a nunnery in a convent all that they only have Unix
around. I think that's where we're headed.
To get a cut the nuts off,
just add milk your eyes out, yeah, you'll have one
capability. So maybe you can use your hands. And but you'll have
to have the guy with the eyes to sit next to you, they're going
to disable you one way or the other. If that didn't work,
that's one. That's the extent to which these people are crazy,
John. And, of course, we know sis admins and I know a
sysadmin, who worked on the drone programme. When this
sysadmin left. They said hey, would you please change the root
password and give it to you to the next guy? Are you kidding
me? This is how dumb it is that just dumb. These people that are
fiefdoms. They don't give a crap about security. Really, they
just one. It's disgusting. And of course, it's the Chinese
provided as part of that.
So I'm going to assume that there's one in there about
China. And there's one in there about Iran. And there's another
in there about Russia,
many more than let me just get this straight. We're about to
accuse China and Russia and Iran of hacking and spying and being
horrible one,
if it's many more than one. Yes. How many of those are there?
31,000?
If those documents fell into their hands, what good would it
do them?
It would give them a roadmap of what we know what we don't know.
And give them implicitly way to protect
the exactly so we then now we go into the dashboard. This is so
funny, because this is this is the proof that these are
basically Silicon Valley Yahoo's
twice a week under the dim blue lights of the NSA Operation
Centre. The director is given a briefing. Sure we added three
new hostage cases this week with his deputy Chris English General
Alexander listens to a rundown of global issues and
international crises the NSA may be asked to collect intelligence
on Sir moving to Afghanistan the meeting is called the stand up
because no one sits down
this is when they're wearing camo this is this well I got an
answer about that. I got the answer to the same letter from
the guy that talked about the camo
Yeah, we got it we got a camo letter. Okay, but the standup is
a Silicon Valley thing. Oh, I remember this Emilio that we had
a new Dez C CTO came in and he decided we should do a stand up
meeting all the engineers change the
name of the meeting to stand up the daily stand up No, but there
was a other thing that was changed and we go on who cares?
It's just this the whole culture of this thing is just creepy.
This especially
in the camp with a camo on which is
okay, well the camo is standard apparently. We got so many
people yelling at us. Snipers. The camo
is standard. That just we were wrong about the camo But the
three words that yeah we were the perception from yes we were
our assumption is as stupid I was that wrong.
That's not your right. I'm sorry I forgot that was our
assumption. It's they're comfortable apparently. All
right, here's the Alexandre setting up the pitch could take
down anything from the power grid to Wall Street. Could a
foreign country tomorrow topple our financial system?
I believe that a foreign nation could impact and destroy major
portions of our finances. The
question is, how much of it could we stop? Well, right now
it
would be difficult to stop it because our ability to see it is
limited.
One thing I didn't see coming was called the BIOS plot.
This is my favourite. This is the one that anyone who has any
knowledge of how things work saw right through now Kaiser
Alexander is smart. He's not going to roll this bull crap out
himself. So here let's push a woman out there. Oh, wait, let's
push a black woman out that's even funnier. This I'm telling
you, John, this is how these people think. And did you see
you saw this You saw what happened this is this is
disgusting. Make her tell the big lie about the bios that
brick the economy
Plunkett direct saw Yeah, this was horrible. This is
really, really bad. And they made her tell it which was just
disgusting.
The NSA. And for the first time discusses the agency's role in
discovering the plot. One of
our analysts actually saw that the nation state had the
intention to develop and to deliver to actually use this
capability to destroy computers. Destroy computer to destroy
computers. So the BIOS is a basic
three times in a row. Did you hear that? Yeah,
destroy computers, destroy computers, destroy computers.
That's how you remember things. This is Mind control people's 60
minutes says
destroy computers. He says destroy computers. She says,
Because destroy computers, you were 123 punch, you remember?
And 60 minutes is what? The intelligencia with the elites.
What is school people, my friends in Austin, Texas, watch
60 minutes and take it as truth. Yes, they take this like it's 60
minutes, man, they take it as truth. They take it as truth,
they take it as true take it as truth.
Truth destroyed, destroyed computers, destroy computers
destroyed computer
is a basic input output system. It's like the foundational
component firmware of a computer, you start your
computer up, the BIOS kicks in, it activates hardware, it
activates the operating system, it turns on the computer.
This is the bio system which starts most computers, the
attack would have been disguised as a request for a software
update. If the user agreed, the virus would have infected the
computer. So this basically would have gone into the system
that starts up the computer runs the systems tells it what to do
that's right. And basically turned it into a cinderblock a
brick. And after that, there wouldn't be much you could do
with that computer.
That's all on a second hold on Stop, Stop the presses stop, the
presses are stopped. So you're telling me the government is
buying computers that don't have a factory reset hard reset that
on the motherboard, which all of them do that I got machines all
over the place. And there's a little clip you put on and it
resets the BIOS to factory reset in case something like this
happens. So how was this a cinderblock? Or a brick? Does it
make the thing catch on fire? I mean, what am I missing here?
Are they just full of crap? Ah, that would
be it. I will point out that this of course, this is a major
security issue. It's an issue with the Microsoft Update
Tuesday it's an issue with any any centralised updating system,
it is probably the most looked after system in any computer or
peripheral company. Interesting that one of the recommendations
of the of this document, the 300 page document is specifically
specifically to allow the NSA under certain such circumstances
to launch zero day attacks. It says it's specifically in the
document that under certain circumstances, the NSA should be
allowed to launch zero day exploits and attacks to protect
our national security. And this is a good way to do that.
Think about the impact of that across the entire globe. It
could literally take down the US economy.
I don't think so. What is she saying? She's
insane. This woman should be ashamed of herself. Oh,
she shouldn't she's just she's being pushed to do this. It's
shameful they made her do this.
I don't mean to be flip
about this, but But okay, standby. Standby. Here it comes.
It has
a kind of a little Dr. Evil quality I'm going to develop a
programme that can destroy every computer in the world. It sounds
almost unbelievable. Don't be fooled.
Don't be, don't be absolutely destroying every. Second, you
got to hear that last bit.
programme that can destroy every computer in the world. It sounds
almost unbelievable.
Don't be fooled. There are absolutely nation states who
have the capability and the intentions to do just that.
Based on what you learned here at NSA, would it have worked?
We believe it would have
Yes, it would have worked and they stopped it, John. They they
stop it the BIOS bricking, I don't know, they killed they
stick they saw the guy who was
evidence or they have this shot. And if somebody wants to do
this, because they are out to get us why don't they do it?
Now? What's the point? Why wait?
A couple more quick, really quick hits here. I had a
question about this.
This week, the CEOs of eight major internet providers,
including Google, Apple and Yahoo. asked the president for
new limits to be placed on the NSA his ability to collect
personal information from their users.
What exactly I don't like this internet provider meme anymore.
He's not they're not internet providers. Exactly. And they're
providers of service. Zhan the internet. Yes. This is what an
internet providers essentially an ISP is
more interesting, the actual internet providers weren't
there. This is this is the whole joke. The internet providers
were not at the meeting. The guys who actually open up the
light port so that the NSA can tap in they're not there. They
got nothing to say like, oh, yeah, urine. And here's, here's
proof in Kaiser, Alexander's words, that they are sucking it
up from the network. So our
objective is to collect those communications no matter where
they are. But we're not going into a facility are targeting
Google as an entity or Yahoo is an entity, but we will collect
those communications of terrorists that flow on that
network sources
as long as it flows on the network. You see, it flows on
the network John, that's what it's about. There is here's
gotta go back to the document that I have one final clip and
around this out. These these Yahoo's these these geniuses,
these shills who wrote this report had the near the end they
say it might reduce budgetary costs and political risk. If
technical collection agencies could make use of artificial
intelligence software that could be launched onto networks, and
will be able to determine in real time what precise
information packet should be collected. Such smart software
will be making the sorting decision online, as
distinguished from current situation in which vast amounts
of data are swept up. And the sorting is done after it has
been copied onto the data storage systems. were unable to
determine whether this concept is feasible or fantasy. But we
suggest that should be examined by an inter agency information
technology research team, Bonanza,
that's what I just use your read. That's the first thing I'm
thinking. I'm wondering what JC is going to do next. Next
programming. It'll be that it says hundreds of millions of
dollars down the drain. I guarantee Richard Clarke will be
in it somehow.
Of course he will. That's why he wrote it right in there. This is
his setup for the next
set of verges scoring the big dough.
Oh, yeah. And then there's a one other thing you'll hear is a
recommendation that a civilian should be running the agency.
Now, let me just tell you what that means. That's code. Okay.
And this is code for a spy. My uncle Don, when he they would
you would read about him in the, in his early career in the New
York Times he would say Donald Greg civilian at the Pentagon.
This is code. They want a CIA guy to run the NSA.
Yeah, that bought Obama Nix that already. We know that.
And then while we're at it, but just just to finish up the whole
60 minutes, why don't we completely discredit Edward
Snowden by making him seem completely kooky.
He was taking a technical examination for potential
employers and no cheat. Did I say he used a system
administrator privileges to go into the account of the NSA
employee who was administering that test?
This is the guy you want to promote? Isn't this the guy
who's uh, yeah, it is.
But by that, did you miss the mean? They threw the me Mattis
high school dropout? Yeah.
I was taking a technical examination. I forgot to put
that in your writing for potential employment and NSA. He
used a system administrator privileges to go into the
account of the NSA employee who was administering that test. And
he took both the questions and the answers and use them to pass
the test.
At home, they discovered Snowden had some strange habits.
He would work on the computer with a hood that covered the
computer screen and covered his head and shoulders so that he
could work in his, his girlfriend couldn't see what he
was doing.
This seems like standard procedure to me. But no, no, no,
let's call it very
exposed to be he was what protecting the data. He's doing
his job. Yeah, but no, that's kooky.
That's pretty
strange. sitting at your computer kind of covered by a
sheet over your head and the screen. Agree. Agreed, agreed,
agreed. Agreed. We also learned for the first time that part of
the damage assessment considered the possibility that Snowden
could have left a bug or virus behind on the NSA system. Yeah,
this
is the funny I love this part like a time bomb a time bomb,
like a time bomb it's
so all the the machines that he had access to, we removed from
our classified network, all the machines in the unclassified
network and including the actual cables that connect those
machines. We removed the cables,
the game could be lurking in the cables is are you telling me
that that's the technical expertise of this entire
organisation has gone to removing cables yet probably
because they're afraid there's some evil thing lurking in the
cable problem solved. Problem solving macro, this is the this
is the most frightening thing they said on that show. This has
to have cost millions and millions of dollars
10s of millions and million millions. All right.
So to summarise everybody. This document, which is now being
touted as a great recommendation is nothing more than a big
bonanza for some of the, by the way, morale is leaving, you
know, he'll wind up at some kind of cut Oh, yeah, it does this
stuff
CEO, the chairman of the board,
not gonna we're not gonna run a thing just get paid. And
you won't be sitting here right? He'll be just beginning to
calculate. They're gonna build,
they're gonna build this software, which is a
recommendation, the NSA is going to have much easier access.
It'll be interesting to see I have a feeling that there is
going to be a pitch and there will be a third party I think
that I I have a feeling that that's it's just it's too nice
of an opportunity. Too much money with too much money. And
it could be Adobe who couldn't do all they have to do is just
walk it across the street in Utah, the data centres right
across from the NSA, when Adobe
has been left out of the picture, they weren't given the
opportunity to sit at the table with Obama and Yuk it up and
drink. Well, they're probably they they may be you might be
right. They may be this. I think that a pro Adobe waltz in
Yep. So I have a feeling that Adobe is ready for they already
have the information. I'm going to share. Please look at
Omniture look at what it's doing. Look at what it stores
look at what the information look at their white papers. They
have a military and governmental programme programme for
Omniture. So you can find out what's happening in real time
with someone's computer. This is what Adobe is very. We're gonna
see I think they got a little ding with the passport the the
password thing they got that hack you know, that was maybe
that was industrial espionage to make espionage to make them look
bad
with this pending I'm sure there's competition for that
job.
Nothing is off the table at this point. And with with with tapper
on CNN, what he's saying and with this completely unjust
journalistic, all in scripted 60 minutes piece. There's nothing
left to believe, except us, of course, because we have nothing
left to lose.
Well, we don't, we don't have the conflict of interest. As we
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that is in fact it's quite the opposite. You're supposed to
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You know, I mean, I guess it's the blue pill Red Pill the
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they make a choice to do that. Yeah. Well, good luck to them.
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That's the illness creeping in. And rest in peace there. Al
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Oh, screw magazine. Yeah. That was to have a show. My favourite
thing he ever did. Yeah, that guy was disgusting. By the way.
He was great. He was the best thing he did. He was on public
access in New York, Manhattan. Always the funniest.
I was in New York when a midnight blue was the show when
when he had that show. I'd lived in New York at that time. It was
channel J.
I thought Alex Bennett did Midnight Blue.
No, I'm pretty sure it was.
Well, whatever the case was. Goldstein was always on public
access doing one thing or another. And my favourite one
was he had this show. Where if you were invited to come on, I
guess and cuss out people. Yeah. And and all he had to get
complaints. He I saw this show a couple times that all it was was
gold stain on the screen giving the finger and saying fuck you
hammock or schlemm mirror, whatever, whatever. Whoever he
was angry at. And it fuck you United Airlines. And he was he
tells some story about how they screwed him out of $1. Or just
they wouldn't refund his money or something. And then he would
sit there and scream at them. And I just thought this was
like, wow, this is what has come to
Yeah, well, but on the other hand, those were the golden days
of free speech that the whole idea of cable access. When cable
first started, no one knew what to do with cable. They didn't
get it. I mean, you kids here today you think is normal?
That's television? No, that didn't. Advertisers were like,
who's gonna watch that crap? You know, no one got it. And part of
the deal was in order to have a cable company, which is kind of
a monopoly. In the region, you had to allow public access, and
anyone could show up with their tape. And you'd have to have
channels for people to put it on. And these were the and Al
Goldstein, who was really yeah, he was a disgusting creep, but
he was a free speech advocate and you need people like him to
push those boundaries to show that it's, you're supposed to be
able to do that and I guarantee you if today you tried to do
this type of show on anywhere on cable that it would be thrown
off. Yeah. If you didn't get jailed. Yeah,
exactly. And so of course, that's why we've migrated to
podcasting. Which brings up one other thing I wanted to I didn't
see your name on it. Did you see this? Writer's for free speech
thing that they sent to the President in mind? Was that
maybe the it was ACLU or the p n was a pen? I think pen America
centre. It was like for four or 500 writers all said, you know,
stop the surveillance, because we're self censoring. You didn't
see this at all?
I mean, that's self censoring.
Sorry. No, you're not. But
no, I think I've heard about it. I didn't pay
much. Well, there's, there's a number of articles. And, and I'm
just bringing this up for this very reason why it's interesting
that we that we have taken to the podcasting in our artistic
and our expression. Because there's many articles saying
how, you know, writers are not talking about things as much on
the phone, you know, they're because writers are pussies,
apparently. And journalists are probably the bigger postseason.
And of course, they're right to be worried because you are being
listened to, but also what people write, they're holding
back their self censoring. And I thought to myself, this is kind
of beautiful, because the podcast. Yeah, I think you can
some transcription may be possible. But in general, I
think it's not the NSA, no one has time to listen to what we're
saying the type of information and news that we are actually
giving. And if they did, they'd be sucked in within a minute
they'd be donating to we are kind of the perfect avenue
because it's not something that gets sucked up in, in machine
language that can read words. And it's, you know, it's too
much work to go through everything. But if someone does
take the time, I think they'll probably like it.
Yeah, I think so. So I
think we're, this is a very important service.
Yeah, that's what we say. So we keep trying to convince
ourselves
just pointing it out. Just just need to convince myself nobody's
got to do it. I mean, it's a once in a while, essentially,
the what I saw on the L Goldstein show, and I think it's
what it was called, not I think about it. And Robin, what's her
name? Robin, Robin bird, Robin bird, she was nude. Yeah. And
just gave interviews, she was naked, and we'd get
the bang for your buck song at the end.
And then there was the you know, the extra E is for extra P girl.
Yeah. And all the rest of it that was on there was a goal. It
was just a funny moment in history that disappeared
completely. It was beautiful. And now as we get this is the
start clamping down and smashing dissent and all the rest of it.
And I want to tell people out there who think about donating
says screw those guys. We did let them day right and get it
for free. Why should I give them a nickel, I wanted to say, you
know, you probably listen to something that won't ever be
seen, again, anything like it? Probably five or 10 years. And
I'd be like, go I remember those guys used to tell all these
things. And they used to go through documents, and now they
won't even let us see the documents.
Remember how I never donated to those guys, and now they're
dead?
I never donate because, you know, I didn't think it was
worth Why should I don't and now they're dead. Now we got people
that donate over and over again, which is you know, the ideal.
Yeah, but it's but there's so many people out there that just
are too. You know, it reminds me talking about cheap. I mean,
it's like they've the story going around, we'll get to next,
which is the Indian diplomat story. Well, chat, it's a funny
story in itself. Before
we get into that, let's just pause for a second with 99% of
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by the way and Internet services, you consume what you
think are for free, like, you know, like Gmail, and you know,
and then and then they change all the time and this is you are
being upgraded for their actual customers. Okay, that's what's
going on here. You the products are being upgraded for their
customers, which is the advertisers. No one has given
you the actual information. We're giving you real
information, and we're giving you community we're giving you a
whole bunch of things and the opportunity to support it. All
right, now you're gonna talk about some cheapass Indian
because that's usually what comes after the word Indian.
Well, there was a funny story that went on this week, which is
the diplomat of in we're I guess we're gonna have the New York
counsellor someday, which I always thought diplomatic
immunity meant what what it says, which is immunity.
But that's for parking tickets. Isn't it
I thought it was a murder to me based on what I've seen in
really well I mean it just I'm going by what I see on Tumblr
try that out so there's the story is becoming quite funny
because this woman apparently was and it's all based on the
cheap Indian meme she claimed on her visa form I do have a clip
you might as well play it new and get it go through it that
was his incident one
yeah Indian Well, yeah, right one
can do is government says it's shocked and appalled at the
manner in which its deputy consul general in New York has
been quote, humiliated. Devyani cover, Gotti arrested last week
charged with making false statements and visa fraud on an
application for a housekeeper. She pleaded not guilty and was
released on $250,000 bail.
A diplomatic tit for tat is underway. On Tuesday, concrete
security barriers were removed in front of the US Embassy in
New Delhi. India's responding to what it says was the heavy
handed treatment of one of its diplomats. Last week India's
Consul General Divya Nico briody was arrested over charges of
visa fraud. She was handcuffed strip search and me to share
jail cell with the prisoner population. India has won the
United States have consequences until it gets an apology.
Every country has dignity and cannot be in this manner. More
steps should be taken against the United States until they
give an unconditional apology.
Cobra is accused of lying on her domestic workers visa
application saying she would pay 975 an hour when in fact she
paid 331 below minimum wage. While India has not disputed the
charges it says this is not her diplomats are friendly nations
or to be treated shaken up by the Indian response the US has
said this is an isolated incident.
Well then Jen or whatever her name is hearth
band camp.
And she said the band camp girl comes out and she makes she's
she doesn't really say anything as usual in soccer your
heart is it Marie Harford Okay, Marie harp harp harp harm her.
Yeah.
Can I go? Isn't she the Bandcamp? girl? She's
the Bandcamp girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This limited episode was somebody who was charged with a
crime is a separate and isolated incident. We know this is a
sensitive issue though. And that's why we're looking at what
transpired and talking to the Indians about it. drug approval,
bilateral
relations between India and the United States have grown
stronger in recent years. Many believe India's reactions oh
wait for the government to flex its muscle and stand up to the
US ahead of next year's general election.
Back to Friday briefings I'm sorry that August is over. Oh,
and this one time at bandcamp I don't have anything at the top
today.
I stuck a flute and I just can't help myself.
She can't that's it. That is the grossest thing that we
consistently play as an evergreen but it's also let it
sounds just like her
from a number one movie that everyone knows is great. If I
ever met her I just be like
yeah, well anyway the Indians and then we have the I don't
understand why they had the strip searched the woman because
it just seems funny. It's much funnier. Who is a hilarious we
all admit to that and the Indians don't have much of a
sense of humour. From what I can tell. I mean, I've seen their
movies but now they've like they took all the barriers away and
they stopped the Indian guard around the US Embassy they just
fight it mafia attack the embassy
isn't this kind of just the way it made three bucks an hour now
but this is the way it go this is what we do when we want to
pick a fight with somebody the Russians are doing the same with
the Netherlands right now. We had that the we arrested one of
their diplomats they arrested one of ours now they're like
well, we're not going to take your milk products anymore. Is
this childish? It's just going back and forth. When it's all
really about buying some big gun or something. It's always the
same Indians I don't know. I don't understand. I don't
understand the Indian are they is India any good to us at all?
These in you have any use?
Well, they provide us with most of our semiconductor designers.
Okay, well see they have a real knack for
what we're finding we could we could grow those guys here.
Yeah, to a point
these guys are really good at that. Yeah, that's about it from
what I can tell but I could be wrong but I don't know because
we don't have to admit we know Indians admit to ever listening
to the show except a few that have you know, become Americans
and I'm not I don't I don't think they count we never have a
dash they do a once every two years. One of them donates, but
they're just really as of the opinion they have this their
religious their basic religious orientation with reincarnation
in the rest is that you get what you deserve, when there's no
reason to donate anything,
but then they get what they deserve or they get out scoring.
Well, they do get our scoring which is
a the, the FBI something really I'm gonna get this from this
must have been. It was really funny. Of course we had our six
week cycle and the FBI I think they're pissed off because you
know this is this is what they do this is the big all you know
we've entrapped some guy but they never really tell it like
that. But we've stopped someone from from blowing up the
airport. We've thought of this self radicalised, homegrown
terrorist plot, intended to kill lots of people. And it got
snowed under because of this unfortunate school shooting. So
the FBI comes out and they send a douchebag and this guy is a
douchebag. He's got a really weird, round, funny, sweaty head
to say the following today, the
FBI said that this year, its agents prevented 150 attacks
like the one in Colorado,
or so. So are you kidding? It gets better, because they're
actually going to now say that they always try to stop someone
from violence. Well, the opposite is true because they
try to honeypot them into doing it. This is the funniest clip,
the Bureau is working with communities to spot potential
threats early. And our HOMELAND SECURITY CORRESPONDENT Bob Orr
got an inside look at how it works. Andre Simmons runs an FBI
unit charged with stopping mass shootings before they happen
three times a week Simmons and the behavioural Threat
Assessment Centre, confront a case dealing with a potential
shooter identified through tips from churches, police, campus
security and businesses. And when you study somebody, what is
it that jumps off the page and use this as a real problem?
Oh, pay attention pay attention. This is what they're looking for
reps
what we look at is there a fascination with previous
attacks?
I hope no one looks at my Google searches.
Is there a overwhelming sense of a downward spiral?
Oh, yeah.
Often in mass shootings as in the attacks of the Colorado
movie theatre and the Washington Navy Yard. Gunmen reveal warning
signs to coworkers neighbours or classmates. Simmons says when
the FBI gets an early heads up about threatening behaviour.
Analysts work to redirect the subject from violence to mental
health treatment.
This is okay so stop here. A this is clearly another another
notch in the war on crazy because you know you're crazy.
And to this is a lie. The FBI says oh, hey, here's a guy who
wants to blow some up let's go egg him on
monitoring or custody. The FBI team researches the subjects
background and often interviews the person and acquaintances. In
the past year the behavioural team has tackled 150 cases, not
one resulted in violence.
Do you believe this? John, do you believe what they're doing?
is great. Just I think you thought this would be clip
that's
what I thought Yeah, isn't about
making the rest or locking people up. This is about
stopping events.
While prosecution obviously remains as the FBI one of our
main priorities. We really think prevention is even better.
I still the challenge is growing
through entrapment.
Fire at a Colorado High School is the latest reminder, these
active shooters
or continuing so we're doing everything we can to unite
mental healthcare resources with law enforcement and make a
positive change.
Yeah, we're on crazy mental health care. Two things to say
about that one, you're not going to hear much more about the
Arapahoe high school shooting for two reasons. One, it was a
an armed security officer who stopped this arm
before you go on. I was watching one of these shows and they were
going on at night. The litany was there was you know gun
violence. They played a two clips they played the head of
the NRA who recommended so you guys got a problem with this. We
like our guns put an arm guard guy into school and that'll stop
it. Yes. And yeah, so they did that. No one's gonna whoops,
wait a minute. Well, let's back off on this because this is
actually what the NRA suggested.
And there's this little ditty is what another student had to say
about him.
Because funnily enough, very proud of being a socialist.
He was very
outspoken on his political views. Well, bomb to him. It
just meant
economic equality. More economic equality.
Proud to be a socialist. Oops, kid. The shooter. Yeah. Proud to
be a socialist. Oops, oops. Yeah, no, I think we should
shoot Sheesh. Don't talk ixnay on the OSHA list, say, okay,
somebody's gonna
get chewed out for this. Because they put it into the public
domain. I mean, obviously, there's 150 of these events kind
of commonly happening. And they could have put any one of them
up there. But they did put up the Wichita today. In the
meanwhile, there's some whoever let this thing slide into the
public consciousness. We've made a huge mistake. Huge
mistake. And if you remember we had well, I'll actually I'll
bring it up after this. This is the latest development in the
Boston bombing the Boston bombing, of course, where
apparently there is a videotape of the Sarnath brothers one or
two, depositing in a backpack with said, pressure cooker
explosive into the wastebasket.
Oh, is that right, Adam? Have
you seen that video? No, we have not seen the video, nor has the
governor of Massachusetts seen the video, although he's
reliably informed it exists.
But But, but But why? Why have we seen this video? Well,
because it's for your own protection by 911. Security is
something but of course, now we know the real issue.
David, it's great to have you here. And according to your
report, Tamar Lin, who was the older of the two brothers was
hearing voices could have been seen as schizophrenic. Any
treatment for that. What did you learn about why no treatment for
the type of symptoms that he may have been shown?
No treatment? Why no treatment? Okay.
The I'm watching Well, let me Democracy Now before you go on,
I want to play this clip and get fewer psych beds. Oh, God. And
they go on and on about this. And I will and I have to make a
comment after this clip. Admissions, the war on crazy
certainly
hope that the Newtown massacre causes people to realise that
for years, we've actually been going in the wrong direction on
mental health. The states have been cutting billions of dollars
out of mental health budgets. And so the relatively modest
increases we've seen in the last year are only beginning to make
up for that fact. We have 90% fewer inpatient psychiatric beds
today than we had in the 1950s.
We have no place to put the crazy people.
The funny thing about this is unfortunate. There's people old
enough, such as myself, who remember this, the whole scene
as it evolved. It was, I guess it was began probably before I
was born. But there was this movement amongst the Liberals
only to close down these horrible mental facilities
because the life there was so miserable and hard on them, they
should have had community servicing or something else. We
had to shut down these mental hospitals. And there was a bunch
of them are in the Bay Area. There's one up in Napa Sonoma,
one for the insane. There was Ag News down in San Jose, there was
one here and they were moaning and groaning about this. It was
all brought to a head by the movie, One Flew Over the
Cuckoo's Nest and the book. And so when Ronald Reagan got into
office, he was being hounded by the liberals, you know that
they're gonna is meant he basically just shut them all
down and said, You guys, just what do you want? Fine. And so
he shut them all down. And then it's been sliding ever since.
But now because we can use this as leverage to get people to
vote against the Republic conveniently now, I don't know
how you make that connection, because it was the liberals who
wanted these places shut down and release the crazies into the
public. It's actually very, I have to say, this is one of the
best turnarounds of, of concept versus reality I've ever seen.
Yeah. In other words, it's like, it's the reality of what's going
on is like completely misused.
Yeah. Well, I think it's going one step further. Mental Health,
and the diagnosis, and treatment of mental health is determined
by one main system in the United States. And you know what this
is, this is one of my favourites. It's the DSM, the
diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders. And
in the DSM, we have odd which we've discussed when it first
came out, it's now published, Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
Even the best behave can be difficult and challenging at
time. But if your child or teen has a persistent pattern of
tantrums, arguing, and angry or disruptive behaviour towards you
and other authority figures, he or she may have oppositional
defiant disorder as they should as a parent you don't know
this drug them so well compliant. Let me
give you the this is from the Mayo Clinic. I'm not reading
from some bullcrap thing Mayo clinic.com. As a parent, you
don't have to go it alone and trying to manage a child with
Oppositional Defiant Disorder. Doctors, counsellors and child
development experts can help treatment of OD D involves
therapy training to help build positive family interactions and
medications to treat related mental health conditions. This
is where it's going. And then once you're drugged once you're
on the drug, then you're in the system then they have your
information. And then you then you can't do a lot of things
like drive a car or be around children and other children. Be
in civil servant gun. Can't buy a gun, your child. So here's
some of the symptoms just so you know your child and by the way
it says child now this could also be your neighbour, your
brother, your sister, your father, your mother, that's just
a matter of definition, maybe displaying displaying signs of
odd instead of normal moodiness if the behaviours are persistent
if the behaviour is lasted at least six months, about six
years on the show, are clearly disruptive to the family and
home or school environment. The following behaviours are
associated with odd John you ready?
I'm ready, I'm ready negativity what?
Defiance Okay, disobedience and hostility directed towards
authority figures. Well, there you have it. And here are some
of the behaviours are show Yes. These behaviours might cause
your child to regularly and consistently so this is what
this is how it may surface have temper tantrums. Be
argumentative with adults, refuse to comply with adult
requests or rules, annoy, annoy other people deliberately. blame
others for mistakes or misbehaviour act touchy and
easily annoyed, feel angered and resentment be spiteful or
vindictive, act aggressively towards peers have difficulty
maintaining friendships have academic problems and feel a
lack of self esteem. I mean, this is from the manual that
determines if you have a mental health issue. So go ahead and
laugh and let it go and don't say anything because they're
coming for you eventually.
And for everybody, yeah. You get rid of those personality
characteristics from the general population. You've got problem
Nobody's life. No, it's
pretty much includes most people that think for themselves and
can do now as you stand up and say that's bull crap. Yep. A
year that puts you in that category.
The the ultimate answer is lithotomy.
Well, there's that,
too. Did you? Did you see? This clip has been going around?
Well, Barbara Walters. What she said about Obama? No, this is a
great clip. Just a little it says what do you call it thing
they serve in between to clean cleanse your palate? Entre mom
and Ultramel lunch amount of Barbara Walters about? Of course
she did her. Oh, hold on a second. What is this people?
Well, he's gone. Let's that's the old Nokia E 71. That I will
have laying around. That's the only phone I possess.
Oh, is that what you're using now? Yeah. Well, it doesn't have
GPS
hasn't as pretty much nothing. Got keyboard 121212. I thought I
heard a weird phone. Yeah, it has a real keyboard. Yeah, so
she has her most interesting people of 2013. Of course, it
was a Hillary Clinton Gee, who would have expected that. But
here's what she said on CNN. I think it was Penn boring. She
said what she said about Obama was kind of funny.
Well, you've touched on it to a degree he made so many promises.
We thought that he was going to be I shouldn't say this at
Christmas time, but the next Messiah and the whole Obamacare
or whatever you want to call that a fundamental, affordable.
She doesn't double one. I gotta play that again. She says
Obamacare or a formidable whatever you want to call it.
She can't even say affordable.
I think she's drinkable.
I think she's drunk. And then she doesn't even know how many
years he has left. I think she's gone senile
pharmacists, we thought that he was going to be, I shouldn't say
this Christmas time, but the next Messiah and the whole
Obamacare or whatever you want to call that a formidable,
affordable health that just hasn't worked for him. And he
stumbled around on it. And people feel very disappointed
because they expected more. It's very difficult when the
expectations for you a very high, you're almost better off
when they're low. And then they rise and rise as well. Very
high. And they've dropped but you know, you still have several
years to go. I wouldn't say at three years, my peers and there
will be a lot of changes and when
you're an idiot. What does you have three more years appears.
Hmm. blind leading the blind brother. I know though that was
your entre? Mo
Yeah, that was cute. I probably have something like that.
All right. I'm just holding back and waiting. Okay,
well, if you want to play an instrument for me play
Stonehenge. I have elicited a pet peeve.
Okay. Oops, oops. Stonehedge tried to get away
from me. The droids of Salisbury Plain have voiced their
displeasure. or they're comparing a new display of
Neolithic Neolithic remains and Stonehenge to a Victorian peep
show. one of Europe's oldest and most mysterious manmade
attractions getting a 27 million pounds makeover that includes a
21st century state of the art Visitor Centre.
Can you imagine?
You know, I went to Stonehenge. I'll be real quick. I went to
Stonehenge as a kid. And there was no gate around you say
this what I'm gonna bitch about All right, go. So I went 1973.
So it's exactly 40 years ago, I went to Stonehenge. And I sat on
the stones. Yeah. And there was nobody there. There was like, I
was with someone. And there was I was walking around with and
there was a bunch of cows nearby. And there was nothing
there was there wasn't anything you had to go visit. Hey, look
at this cool, you know, and there was I think there was a
small shop that sold little stone hinges or something and
they were closed. It was it was like you walk up didn't kick the
stones or whatever you want. So that gets some hooligans came
along and painted the damn things. And then so they fenced
it off, and now they're making it. And the last time I went was
with the kids. The place was packed. Yeah. There's like 200
people there.
Yeah, I went, my dad ruined it. My dad took me in it was
probably 78. He took me on a trip to to London, which was not
a good trip for a number of reasons. Anyway, well. So then
we went to we went to whoops. We went to Stonehenge. And you're
right, it was, I think there were a couple of Druids walking
around. Like who was just some weird guys, don't, don't, don't
worry about and then people are kind of spaced out walking
around. But you could sit on everything you can lean against
it. You took the picture, you know, hey, here I am and
Stonehenge. And and then it got roped off. And now they have a
$23 million pound Visitor Centre. Yeah. It's like, it's
like the time when I did the documentary in Thailand. And it
was supposed to be this rough guide thing. Yeah, there's all
kinds of weird stuff you do like drink Cobra blood and then go up
to the Burmese border and the the Golden Triangle and you
know, chew on leaves and opions now it was all great. And then
well, let's let's go see the long necks like Oh, okay. And we
drive for hours and yeah, I was like wow, this is really where
people only few people have seen the long necks of Thailand and
then there's a big sign with like a finger pointing long neck
this way. Like what was really buying into it. And we've made
the other Oh, this is very few Westerners have been at the
minute you get there. They're all like give me bought bought
bought bought that's all they could say bought bought bought
they want money to take a picture with a long neck. It's
all it's all the whole thing is one big Disneyland there's not
much unbelievable. There's not much originality left is there.
Speaking of bought, bought bought, I'm gonna
show my mood but Jonah to no agenda. Imagine all the people
who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun
then we just do a segment a minute ago.
Well, you know, we're
not gonna take very long exam Yale sounds good. We got some
people to think Yale is Toski and Viana Hello serve John and
serve Adam as a French Canadian American expat in Europe I'm
doing nothing but hitting slaves in the mouth. However, it seems
to be too many people are focusing on problems in America
and not paying attention to the robber barons in Brussels. Well,
we try keep it up long lived the value of your value model that's
interesting. It's $133 from Yale by the way thank
you yo. Now before we get to the $100 This is why I wanted to
take our time for this you we have a Make It Rain a three show
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There's a lot of interesting palindromes coming up in 2014
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Oh John, I got this great from this great page from popular
technology dotnet I created a shortcut go to ice age.curry.com
Ice age.curry.com And then I will play the video that's on
that page. This is essentially a link from the 70s and it shows
starts off right there with the Time magazine cover the big
phrase meagre time time or do you have the page?
I'm on it now.
Yeah, you see that? You see the BIG TIME magazine there?
Scroll down Hold on
No it's at the top what if the scroll down at the top?
I don't have it add it's just a movie
you don't have a whole bunch of links.
Yeah, yeah, there's a bunch of links at the top is a video with
a says it in search of the coming Ice Age.
Oh, this shouldn't be well, maybe it hasn't loaded on your
system or something above that is the Time magazine cover but
here is here's the piece of that video. They took that down looks
like might be well no it loaded for me. This Oh, there it is.
Okay, cropped up when I refreshed. This is Leonard Nimoy
better known as Mr. Spock from Star Trek. Doing a voiceover for
the coming Ice Age is from 1978 and you can just replace
everything you hear with. Well, let's see Al Gore distinct the
voice Al Gore and think global warming when they say global
cooling. This is 1978 Not even that long ago.
In 1977, the worst winter in a centuries bucked the United
States
rip the Midwest
for weeks on. Blizzards paralysed cities of the
Northeast. One desperate night in Buffalo, eight people froze
to death in their own cars. That personnel was on the road at
night.
Traffic just absolutely stacked. It was afraid of being stuck in
the car all night long, with the cold and the wind running out of
gas. And then what? I think that if we had to go through a real
bad winter, just like we just went through. I think we'd have
to think about moving someplace else.
Move where the brutal buffalo winter might become common all
over the United States. climate experts believe the next Ice Age
is on its way. According to recent evidence, it could come
sooner than anyone had expected. And weather stations in the Far
North. Temperatures have been dropping for 30 years. Long
three of summer ice are now blocked year round. According to
some climatologists within a lifetime, we might be living in
the next Ice Age.
Exactly the same propaganda that's going on today. Exactly.
That would have gotten clip in the day. Right. I
can't accept it. It is just a clip.
You've got three clips today that we're all worthy.
Yeah, but it's it's
worded that that is this good. Fine on this website. Yeah, this
page is great. It has just it's got a million links. Yeah, about
the Ice Age from 1970. All the way through 91 or two links.
Were just like 100. And look at the look at the publications. LA
Times is mankind manufacturing a new ice age for itself? Let's
see St. Petersburg Times pollution called Ice Age threat.
Dirt will bring new ice age, Ice Age, refugee dies, underground
pollution might lead to another ice age. Air pollution may cause
ice age, there's a new ice age coming. Ice Age begins a new
assault in the north. This is great. Time Magazine science,
another ice age. Isn't this fantastic?
This is a great collection. Yeah, it's
really, really good. And this is this is what you need to hit
people in the mouth with climate changes called ominous New York
Times. Let's look at that one. Let's see if that one still
exists. Do you have to pay for this if you go to select Santa
gotta pay for it. Climate change is called ominous. scientists
warned predictions must be made precise to avoid catastrophe.
changes in the Earth's climate are inevitable and mankind must
learn to predict these variations to avoid potential
catastrophe. A group of prominent scientists has
concluded after two years study well I could do that voice.
You know she had Kaltenborn or whatever his name was.
Okay, let me try the Chicago Tribune once you've I can do
that. Oh, you have to buy all these man. Dice each come with
the system that controls our climate and you have to buy the
rest of the article. The end of the world is to be heralded by a
summer that is no summer the bitter cold persists and the sun
giving you
yeah if you if you if you tilt your voice to having kind of
like some MMA is something you need to like mispronounce things
a certain way. So it's very sanitised to be stiffer you're
not stiff and different. Okay,
let me see. Just gonna bring up a new one right around the
corner Ice Age predicted. Cambridge, Massachusetts UPI. A
scientist predicts a little ice age could begin in about 135
years. Massachusetts Institute of Technology meteorologist
heard C Willett in an article in the ministry of Technology
Review predicts temperatures generally will get lower in the
coming years. He said this could lead to a period when glaciers
begin building up a little ice age. How's that?
It's better I like it. You can use it so this is
great when you when you look at all these articles and maybe you
should print these out and take them into school.
Take him into school kids new ah WHAT IS THIS TIME magazine they
lying to us
Time magazine 1977 The Big Freeze
Yeah, and the main one that's been floating around that we've
had on the show before the Main articles in Newsweek so
everybody was all in on this. Yeah, Johnny we're all in for
Look how long it was all in for like eight years no 1010
years out through from 70 through 79
Well okay 10 Right. When was today oh there's
more videos already been seen this the weather
decade a decade of frightening the public right to November 14
Seven united as a matter of fact, here's the new ice age
almost upon us.
Here's the BBC is 90 ready to freeze of
Spokane Daily Chronicle 1979
The BBC is 1974 documentary The weather machine. Let's listen to
this.
There's the ever present threat of a Big Freeze will a new ice
age claim our lands and bury our northern cities. It's bedded
Manhattan island before when Greg glaciers half a mile thick
filled the Valley of New York's Hudson River.
The warm periods are much shorter than we believe
originally. They are something around 10,000 years long. And
I'm sorry to say that the one we are living in now has just
passed it's 10,000 Tears bursting what of course means
that the ACH is due now anytime
anytime. Oh and reminder as of January 1 Because of all this
global warming climate change bullshit. New Light Bulb bans
kick in your 40 and 60 watt bulbs are going away convert to
LEDs everybody or worse those Mercury RF emitting pieces of
crap
yeah that go they make a bunch of racket give you one I have
one of those things in the dining room and you turn it on
it sounds like a siren song Why do
you even have it in your house? Take it out.
I like it because I can barely hear but but everyone else in
the group they it's DoD or whatever it's called. I found
that I'm annoying. I'm purposely annoying people.
I found this other outfit called Climate next what is it called
Climate nexus.org climate you should go to climate nexus.org
And these are the climate change propagandists under the What is
this is just interesting. So this is how they do it. What we
do we strive to tell the climate story in new, innovative
innovative ways that's how the British innovative ways. A few
examples of our work Superstorm Sandy the idea this is a pitch
this website Superstorm Sandy approached the Mid Atlantic
October 26 2012. Polling indicates that making
connections to extreme weather helps people to understand the
significance of climate change and its associated impacts in
line with this research climate Nexus identified the storm as a
potential messaging focus Yeah, you shouldn't this is this
should be us were dumb.
We could be making a lot more money doing this sort of
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known problem and we've been had we've good catch is a good one
we've been had. I can't bad so a producer he pointed out to me. I
can't believe how dumb I am in this case. This this Chinese
Moon Landing so called Moon Landing, alleged moon landing.
It's so obvious it's fake their gift they handed it to us on a
silver platter and I didn't see it. Here is the headline. Jade
Rabbit rover basks in lunar Bay of Rainbows. Greeley, the Jade
Rabbit is a well known sex toy that has been around for
decades. And Bay of Rainbows if that's not a metaphor for for
vagina, then I don't know what it is. These guys are laughing
at us
I'm surprised they didn't use Happy Valley
it may it may come I don't know it's it's I can't believe it all
put up. Don't Roth J rabbit basks in lunar Bay of Rainbows.
Are you kidding me China's I give him props for that though.
It went by I didn't even I didn't even see it at first now.
Actually, Paul Pierre Dimon
turned me on to that
you remember the talking about China the incidents suppose you
have one of our destroyers was damn near rammed that piece of
crap that Ukrainian aircraft carry that the Chinese have
built out?
Yeah, this is this is this was a they had to change direction to
evolve move
quick. So here's the here's what actually really happened which
has never been reported here. Of course, but and this I agree
with this report because this report came from the NH NHK
Japanese news service. And they're unlikely to be on the
side of the Chinese in any dispute. No, but here's here's
the way they tell it what happened. It was
China has rebutted us criticism concerning a near miss between
their naval vessels earlier this month in the South China Sea. US
Pacific Fleet officials said last week that the Aegis
equipped cruiser USS Cowpens narrowly avoided a collision
with a Chinese naval vessel. The incident occurred on December 5
and international waters. US official said the Chinese vessel
manoeuvre too close to the Aegis cruiser, and it failed to act in
line with international norms which resulted in the near miss.
China's defence ministry issued a statement on Wednesday saying
its vessel handled the encounter in strict accordance with
protocol. It said the two defence departments were kept
informed of the situation and carried out effective
communications. The ministry added that both sides are
willing to maintain close cooperation and make efforts to
ensure regional peace and stability. You West media
reported that China's Liaoning aircraft carrier had been
conducting training exercises and the Aegis cruiser had been
gathering intelligence. The report said that although the
Chinese side ordered the USS calpains to stop, the cruiser
kept moving because it was in international waters. Then the
Chinese vessel blocked its course.
That sounds about right.
Which is harassing them. Yeah. Spying on their deal.
Well, we're in that we're in the Chinese see anyway, we know. I'm
sorry. We're we're saving people in the Philippines with the USS
George Washington biggest aircraft carrier in the
universe. Yeah, we're saving people here. And a couple of
sorties a day who saved
them and then of course we reported missed report the whole
thing. Yeah, I mean, I think it'd be fine if we honestly say
we're out there harassing the janitors this game, we shot bam
and that crappy old aircraft carrier but no, the way they
have it. If you listen to some of these reports, all the
Chinese are building up to Munich. Russians, they're going
to have a bunch of these aircraft carriers, this aircraft
carrier is a piece of crap.
The funny thing is when it went away, you just said that which
sounded very top Ganesh, which, of course is our culture of our
movies and everything. The American people, I think we were
ready for that kind of talk. We're okay with it. You don't
have to lie. And I mean, seriously, if if the news just
came on, and then you had Dempsey? Well, Dempsey is not
the right guy. We need someone with a little more stance to go.
Yeah, we're harassing them then. chinks. Hi, yeah, yeah. Why?
Because we're protecting these islands here that's important to
us and our allies he's dealt, but he
is Yeah. No reason that you express there. Is it to an
extreme, including the
epithet, we gotta call the jab because we're gonna happen
in this country because of the women that really are behind.
Oh, you can't say that? Oh, you do? Oh, you said something bad.
Oh, stop, you're out. You know, take your average. Let's go
after the advertiser which they're doing on a number of
shows. Now. Wait, stop.
I have another example of this cultural Marxism. By the way,
you miss me saying Jackson nips? I did. Yeah. Well, and here and
here's another one we can do Jennifer Lawrence. She's an
actress,
people who judge other women, especially on the red carpet.
You're very sensitive to that. Why?
Because why is humiliating people funny. And I also and I
get it, and I do it, too. We all do
it. Well, why is it funny? Because she's a dick.
I think when it comes to the media, the media needs to take
responsibility for the effects that it has on our younger
generation on these girls that are watching these television
shows, and picking up how to talk and how to be cool and how
to be. So then all of a sudden, being funny as making fun of the
girl that's wearing an ugly dress or making fun of the girl
that's, you know, and the word fat. I just think it should be
illegal to call somebody fat on TV, and we're regulating
cigarettes and sex and cuss words. Because of the effect it
has on our younger generation. Why aren't we regulating things
like calling people fat?
How about smelly bitches
regulating things like calling people fat. That's what that's
the exact quote. Yeah, that's that's what it is. Why aren't we
regulating things we regulate? People that by the way, should
be such as but that's another sort of matter.
Like, wow. And of course, Barbara walls.
How do you get like this?
This is what do you mean? How do you get like this, she's a part
of the establishment. That's how you get like this. This is this
is what the establishment talks like, this is how the elites
went. And Bill Gates and Melinda Gates, they're in on this too.
They walk around talking this O R word, S word, T word, C word,
V word. This is how this is, this is what happens. And then
we lose everything. We lose language, we lose meaning we
lose identity, we lose freedom of speech, we lose the
opportunity to talk freely as human beings.
definitely lose freedom of speech. That's what this is all
about.
Yeah. What happened to you can say, I may not agree with what
you say, but I'll defend your right to say to the death. No,
everyone's like, I screwed that. I
shouldn't say that. That's what it that's what it's evolved to.
You shouldn't say that. It's not nice, and it's hurting someone's
feelings. Say that. You can't say that. You can't say that.
Can't say that.
Okay, how about this, then? This is, this is actually this. I
thought this would get Clip of the Day.
We do know, as we look at the larger picture here, Sean, that
LGBT rights is just one of the points of friction, but twisted
is
another F Russia about social games. And you know,
the Yeah, I got a couple clips to follow. We in our country in
Russia right now, as we look at the litany of other things right
now. It's Russia support for Syria, their relationship with
Iran, current crisis in the Ukraine, also the protection of
asylum that was granted to NSA leaker leaker Edward Snowden
there in Russia. So how do you think that the President can
balance all the delicate foreign policy issues, but still take a
decisive stand on human rights because so many people consider
President Obama to be the first gay president?
I don't think he meant to say that.
I don't know if that's, I think it may be wrong, because don't
forget, he was on the cover of business or Newsweek as first as
the first gay president. Yeah, yeah. And it's come up in other
venues that he's well
we know we know them. We know the fact. Fact.
But I don't know it depends on what what outlet that was. I
know, there's a lot of stuff going on. In fact, you want to
see the classic I mean, it's all anti Russian anti Putin stuff.
And apparently, I guess you know, they there's some sort of,
we'll play the clip USA sends gaze to the left Biggs
Hey, where's my memo?
Brock Obama may be even a slap in the face for the Russian
delegation and openly gay athletes. tennis legend Billie
Jean King will be part of the US delegation to the opening
ceremony in Russia on February the seventh, there will be no US
president, there will be no US First Lady, no vice president
and not a single member of the cabinet here in Washington.
Instead, there will be a gay rights activist. And there is
this statement from the White House to back things up. The
Obama administration says that its delegation, quote represents
the diversity that is the United States we haven't even spoken
about the closing ceremony yet that we'll also have as part of
its delegation, an openly gay American athlete that will be
Caitlyn Kay, how she is a two time Olympic medalist in ice
hockey, a clear snub and a protest almost on behalf of the
Obama administration, Russian President Vladimir Putin will
not be happy.
Hold on a second. Okay, so besides the fact that Pakistan
actually it has outlawed gay sex constitutionally, and you know,
everything, everything's all good for them. In fact, you
know, they're, they're still letting us drone they're
terrorists. And there's not a word said about that. We are now
going to continue this bullcrap mean that Russia has some anti
gay stance, which is categorically not true. And in
fact, the Russian laws are much more LGBTQ. LMNOP friendly then
United States laws in general. But then we're sending Billie
Jean King as as our gay census someone hearts This is dumb.
This is who cares Billie Jean. When is the last time she was on
a tennis court? When's the last time she was on a woman? This is
dumb. Let me look at this Caitlyn Is she hot? This
Caitlyn.
By the way I listened to this and it's like oh, that's that's
you know they did this one other time. I remember years ago they
had the they come and go
I got dizzy from that. outburst. I'm sorry.
kuvaas Because you're ill. Yeah. It was a good outburst. I
enjoyed it. So we've done this before in the past, but why
doesn't you know the people that have to crack down on this is
not the Russians. They should just who cares? We just get
whatever money we get. Where's the Olympic Committee? They're
the ones that these guys run the world they should be coming over
say hey, you're never gonna get another Olympics in your country
if you keep this bullshit up. How could
they even choose this country? Because it's not true. They love
it. It's all it's all about the money for them. This is
fantastic. Get this promotion everyone to watch. But boy,
yeah. Well, that's true.
But come on. If we're gonna send a lesbian to Russia. Let's send
Let's send a good one. No Cheese Louise. Why did have to Billie
Jean King. That's it's like Elton John with a with a bra. I
mean, come on.
I don't know where that came from. Please vote for us an
image I just
Oh, man.
They're going after the RT is finally getting out of its
shell. And they're dead just trying to blast the US every way
they can. So let's look at this clip, which is the anti American
Middle East pitch on Russia today, which I just think was
off the wall.
What do you make up how the US is responding to this issue
given the conflicting interests here, for example, in Syria, you
have the Assad government, which has been friendly to the
Christian communities. But the US is opposed to the Assad
government instead favours the rebels which we're now seeing
factions of the rebels not being friendly to Christians, can the
US even play a role in mitigating this problem?
Nobody understands what the US game plan at this, at this time
in the Middle East, the US, for the first time in a very long
time, are perceived in the Middle East, even by its
strongest allies, such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt as an
unreliable partner. This is quite harsh. I have not heard
such harsh criticism for the US government, probably since the
height of the anti American sentiments in Egypt in the
Middle East in the 60s.
So they're going to believe in their story after story. All
they're doing is blasting our foreign policy blasts in the US
on our tea with various anchors and they're all in on this. It's
actually quite quite entertaining. I have to say.
Putin changed something I think he did away with Ria. He closed
down the the RIA News organisation and as bolstered
our Tea I think there was ice read about some change. So that
makes sense if we're seeing an increase in anti American
sentiment from them
yeah and pro and a lot of pro Syrian sentiment Yeah. Including
this there's got a couple of clips on the Syria thing play
great Assad propaganda. Okay, killed are used as human
shields.
The things being done in our drawer unthinkable. They're
slaughtering children and throwing them out a Windows and
no one's doing anything about it.
Yes, yes. Those are the rebels by the way. That's the rebel.
Yeah, that's, of course it's completely believable.
Thrown children out of windows and nobody is doing anything
about it. Play aside part two. This is getting good. Right now.
Syrian authorities say they have evidence confirming that
massacres have taken place and address Sadad Latakia and many
other areas, which remain under the control of the armed
opposition. The situation in Syria has now deteriorated to
the point that international norms of combat are no longer
being observed
by of course the throwing kids out window these are the rebels
who are throwing the kids out of the windows. Yeah,
obviously and he's got his part three we wrap it up hydro he's
an industrial town with a lot of its residents working both in
the private sector and for government agencies. Horrifying
crimes have been committed in this town houses were set on
fire with people trapped inside the Syrian
army which is positioned just outside the town continues to
carry out surgical strikes as part of their effort to liberate
ADRA which is now the only hope of the families waiting for news
of their loved ones inside the town. You know,
Oh, wow. Well,
before you say that, I just wanted that thing. You just
heard that thing there is so amateurish surgical strikes.
Yeah. Russians suck at this. Yeah, well,
yeah. Yeah, they suck and they need help. surgical strikes. I
heard it I was thinking that
you know how my mom would say like, you know,
if you don't clean up your room we're going to send you to
Africa where you don't have a room
so now now parents don't have about sending the food that the
starving Chinese right so
now we can just say you know if you don't behave yourself Adam
Clark curry I'm sending you to to Syria where they throw
children like you out the window.
Yeah, it's very out the window. Bam. no apparent reason.
No, of course not. Well, this is not very good.
I have a couple of throat callbacks to the earlier part of
the show. No, okay. One of them but which does not do the
callback is the sob winds the jet do listen to this little
piece of propaganda, I believe. I think this was on van cat. So
it wasn't a Russian propaganda. But I think it's very telling
and if anyone should be at the table with the laughing Obama
and Biden that it should have been the CEO of Boeing.
Now Brazil has managed to put several noses out of joint in
both France and the United States in choosing who to buy
new fighter planes from
Yeah, simple deal that's caused a lot of diplomatic tussle I
suppose. After a decade of on and off negotiations. It was
Sweden's Saab, which won the $4.5 billion dollar contract to
supply fighter jets to Brazil. Now the deal will see Sao Paulo
were supplied with 36 new jets by 2020 sub one out over
competition from France's Dessel and also Boeing, an American
company. Now when Brazilian government source said that that
was the NSA spying scandal that cost the American firm, its
chance at winning contracts. That's certainly a surprise
choice.
Interesting.
You know, Snowden wrote an open Well, I'm sorry, Glenn
Greenwald. Dorf wrote an open letter on behalf of Edward
Snowden because it's Greenwald's writing, you can tell.
Actually, there's analytic tools that you could run and you could
probably find it was him.
Do we have those tools handy?
Actually, I have a couple of them but I you know, they're
buried somewhere in the office. Don't count on you
could have just said no. Yeah. No, where he is now vying for
asylum in Brazil, and then everything starts to come into
vision. Now, you know what I mean?
Well, actually, the unreported Snowden suggested deal is that
clip about what exactly what you said,
Okay. Wow, you come prepared white men.
And as NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden offers to help Brazil
dig deeper into NSA activities. He said he could do so in
exchange for political asylum. The Snowden leaks have provoked
outrage about us mass surveillance worldwide.
Yeah, yeah. No, I It's all coming into view now. But what
was interesting about this letter, hold on a second. And
the reason I don't I don't need any, any tool Hold on. I have a
letter here, PIPA open letter to the people of Brazil. Let me
just open this up in the web browser. There was something
very annoying in here that caught my eye and as a no agenda
producer, everyone else would go rather. So it says says an open
letter to people in Brazil, Edward Snowden six months ago, I
stepped out from the shadows lady lady lady law. And then we
have I have expressed my willingness to assist wherever
appropriate and lawful. But unfortunately, the United States
government has worked very hard to limit my ability to do so
going so far as to force down the presidential plane of Evo
Morales to prevent me from travelling to Latin America.
That's a lie.
Well, it's not only a lie, but he wasn't on that plane. No. So
it's a double kind of a it's a lie in different dimensions.
The plane was not forced down. We have the air traffic control
audio, we've played it several times. They, they they had their
own lie on the flight crew had their own lie that they wanted
to land because someone was wrong with their gauges. They
asked to land no one was forced down. No matter what how you put
it, going so far as to force down the presidential plane.
That is a lie. And that tells me the Glenn Greenwald don't rap
wrote it. He writes this stuff. This guy is. Okay. Hey, I need
to remind you, we're going to talk about the something related
to that. Come on about our bees. Oh, so Washington Post.
Oh, yeah. Bezos, the Washington Post where I get to two clips of
sets it up. We can talk about it. Yeah. The first one would be
a Washington Post. No, no, no, no, it would be BS. Yeah, why
the Bezos Washington Post and CIA story that's the one
on the Washington Post is dealing with conflict of
interest questions. That newspaper was recently acquired
by Jeff Bezos, the founder and CEO of Amazon. And as CEO of
Amazon Bezos recently signed a $600 million contract with the
CIA to provide cloud computing infrastructure, the 600 million
that Bezos is getting from the CIA eclipses the 250 million he
paid to buy the Washington Post newspaper. And there are
questions over whether or not this deal could affect the
Washington Post reporting on CIA matters. Here's Bezos responding
on 60 minutes.
does that present any conflict for you the fact that you
provide a cloud that the CIA uses for its data? I don't think
so. We're building what's called a private cloud for them,
Charlie, because they don't want to be on the public cloud.
But here's what former Washington Post reporter John
Hanrahan told The Huffington Post, quote, one thing is
certain posts, reporters and editors are aware that Bezos, as
majority owner of Amazon has a financial stake in maintaining
good relations with the CIA. And this sends a clear message to
even the hardest nose journalist that making the CIA look bad
might not be a good career move,
right? Is it Bezos, or Bezos?
Oh, who cares? These knows play the professor on the CIA and
Bezos and Amazon story. There's the guy that this, by the way is
all on Russia today, too, you know, again, go after us.
I mean, I would hate to be a Washington Post reporter on that
beat, I'd hate to be a Washington requester reporter on
a few other beats. That basis, you know, is involved in, but
yeah, it has a chilling effect that everyone there knows that
the Washington Post that Amazon already played a role, it wasn't
a very kosher one, and kicking WikiLeaks off of its web
hosting, which really hurt WikiLeaks, during the height of
a controversy a while back. And so the relationship of Amazon
and Bezos to an agency like the CIA is, is very relevant. And
remember an Amazon spokesman last month, were saying we look
forward to a successful relationship with the CIA.
Of course, what I'd say
that's what I say to that kind of money.
People talk about that actual point that Amazon etc to the a
the Amazon Web Services kicked WikiLeaks off, I'd forgotten
about that. Actually. It's all people only talk about the
PayPal stuff, but yeah, Amazon kicked them off their
infrastructure. I remember that.
Yeah. So epsilon,
which is what which is why it's so great that we're using bit
torn sink because you know what, even if someone shut down, if
they took away my computers and cut off my cable, all I'd have
to do is give the one number or which I've memorised that one
key to anyone else who anyone in the world and then they could
automatically become the seed the the main seed for the no
agenda show propagation. How cool is that?
Back to this Washington Post story, does anybody think the
Washington Post is not long since been compromised?
And that's it's funny because no one seems to understand anymore
that because internet it's just done. The Washington with the
Washington The Washington Post for the day they took the first
advertisement was compromised Hello? Oh, yes, of course, it's
compromised and no and no one cares about the Washington Post
other than the people in Washington. So it's the whole
thing is all of this, all of this stuff is just that whatever
you can move, finagle and get something, get some heat and get
the other suckers to flow along with it and get everyone talking
about it, then you've got your moment, then you can push
something through and you're done. And we're on to the next
thing. Yeah, of course, they're compromised. And it would like
like Carlos Slim is not compromising the New York Times
to write about telecommunications course
course.
So this is a nonstory, who cares with Bezos? The Washington know
what what we're, what we're seeing here is it's kind of like
your beanie babies. This is when the journalists are starting to
eat each other. Now they're all yelling at each other. You say
because you essentially the Washington Post has been saved.
He said to money though most of these things are money losing
operations. It's been saved for the foreseeable future
everyone's happy they got a job. You know, there's I think
there's journalists unions, they have minimum wage written
contracts the guild, the guild, thank you. They've got pensions
and this is a big deal. People care about themselves first and
foremost. And, and other journalists are sick of it.
They're all the day the candidate you can't, you can't
do that. You can't do that. You can't get you to do this. It's
gonna go back and forth. And then meanwhile, the thieves are
laughing, stealing our money and then tiptoeing away into the
into the, into the sunset.
I have a third party this was says WaPo. Part two, I'm not I
don't remember what it was. But it was, it was a perfect lead
into the donation segment, which
was the clip is longer than the donation segment.
It's only tourists.
Post isn't the only newspaper that seeing its reputation
question. In fact, Americans are losing confidence in all
newspapers. Is a Gallup poll found back in June, only 23% of
Americans almost a new historic low have confidence in
newspapers.
Yes. According to whose poll a newspaper poll?
No. 23% is a low number, their new favourite polls would jack
it up? Well, there you go. 23%. And another was less than one in
four persons have any confidence in in major media? I mean, gee,
is that if that's not a lead into like helping people support
us a little more, I don't know what is?
Well, yes, absolutely true. And we have more time, we focus on
less topics, perhaps because, you know, I don't know, we don't
have to do the Lindsay Lohan story of the Kim Kardashian
story. We can if we want, we have time to do what's playing
on the non TV, not for ratings. You know, I went through your
308 page document. No one even gave you the names. They all
even Glenn Greenwald route on rap Key said, now just you know,
White House shills, he didn't even give you the net. It's
interesting to know who those names are. And then you can then
immediately understand the insight. This is the kind of
analysis that anyone could give you. But not with the model that
they're using. They have to be on the high pay short, hit the
news at the top of the hour, we got to cut it off for the
commercial break. That's why I think that's why we've been
doing it for more than six years. And oh, by the way, we
make it look easy. So consider what goes into it. Try. Hey,
please do a show anytime.
Give it a shot. Go look at a few people try.
Yeah, go look at the show notes five,
because I have yet to have a very tolerant family. So as I'm
sitting there watching like the News Hour and C span and
whatever else there is, and I'm getting crazy clips, you know,
they want to watch something they actually they've all given
up now they're all playing video games to get through and they
all hold up in their own mind just so you have to have a
tolerant family to do this. Yes, especially you're just studying
all the time.
Yeah. Yeah, it never really stops you just always analysing
and always looking for unfortunately always looking for
the angle which sometimes there is just no angle and I think
family members get tired of you always being looking for the
angle and just can you just shut up and enjoy it for once. That's
what I get sometimes.
I haven't gotten that. Well, no
but from that for my daughter. It's understandable So please
support us to vorak.org/na. That is where you can, it doesn't it
doesn't matter what you support us with all these all the bits
and bobs help. I'm always astounded by people who say they
they can't donate canif I'm like $5. Really, really $5 And you
couldn't find that. Okay?
No, it's nonsense. When we have kids like the worst, the first
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there's, you know, starving artists, they don't come up and
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But you just want to have a private conversation on email.
Let me argue with Adam for a little while. That's fun. He'll
do that for free. But this is a moment to stop and just reflect
what has happened to us. We are in the in in a fundamental
monumental change in the world. And we're glossing over it,
because Facebook, Twitter, Google, et cetera, YouTube,
Spotify, iTunes, iPods, iPhones, what is capable what you are a
part of listening to this podcast. That is That is the
true revolution that is taking place. Because while everyone is
fighting for position, remember newspaper ads, they'd had the
classifieds. That's why newspapers ran out of money,
because the classifieds went to Craigslist and to and to Angie's
List and all these other places. They and even though they were
warned, that was their moneymaker was the classified
ads. And they had no way to make money without being completely
compromised, because all the advertisers go look at CNET, you
know, you look at CNET. What are they advertising, ads,
technology, electronics, gadgets, phones, these people
compromise, there's no, there's no two ways about it. This is
what goes they say they're not but they are. We are not
broadcasting this on YouTube, we're not on Facebook, we're not
on the Twitter network. We're not owned by anybody, we're run
by you, you help us distribute the programme with these brand
new protocols that are disrupting life as we know it,
the music business is dead over and done with the movie
business, they're dead, they have to figure it all out all
over again. And it's going to take another 10 years of the
struggling and everyone yelling and fighting and legislation and
eating each other up. Meanwhile, we are just kind of kind of
eking through the window of opportunity. And as long as we
can keep the support going. I think we can keep the programme
and the analysis going. And that is truly something Fendt just
mind blowing that is happening in your lifetime. And you're a
part of it.
That was good. Yeah. Thank you. That was a 10 pointer
from the 3d, three pointer line. But I really feel that way. Oh,
and by the way,
this is why the people that an hour of code, aren't teaching
Linux, they aren't teaching php. Now they're teaching all the
commercial crap@code.org Thank you for the number of producers
who pointed that out to me. I don't want you to really realise
that the network is there. The protocols are there. The
software is there. You can do it. Alright, I think I'll go
collapse now.
Yes, it's time for you to get some rest my friend. Yeah. For
the Sunday show coming up. The Big Show where there'll be some
cool stuff over you know, there's always some cool stuff
at the end of the week. You'd like to throw some stuff into
the pot. So it's forgotten by Monday. Yeah, especially with
Christmas coming up. And Christmas is coming up so it was
gonna be shopping.
Someone will be shopping somewhere.
Someone's shopping it all the time. It's always in the
morning. Alright, everybody coming to you from FEMA
Region six here in Austin, Texas at the Travis heights hideouts
in the morning. I'm Adam curry.
And from somewhere one of the FEMA regions nine I believe.
Also known as Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll
be back on Sunday right here on no agenda
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