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The Chinese disaster of 2030 I

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don't know Chinese population
disaster of 2030 2030. Adam

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curry, John C. Dvorak. It's
Thursday, January 16 2014. Time

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for your Gitmo nation media
assassination episode 583.

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This is no agenda,

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counting down to the 2030
Armageddon from FEMA Region six

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here to traverse town in Austin,
Texas. taxes, taxes in the

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morning, everybody. Adam curry

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in northern Silicon Valley where
I've just noticed my third red

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book is full. I don't know what
I'll do. I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Well, maybe we should
incorporate the red book into

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this brand new system I'm using.
Oh, yeah, no, it's actually it's

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gonna be good. No. Well, that's
you heard me mess up my opening.

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Because as I was, as I was
reading the lie, I was right my

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opening. What I always write my
opening, you know, I write do

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disappointed. All right.

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I still mix it all live. But as
I'm reading, I'm reading it. I'm

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like, Wow, it's so much easier
to read. Have you ever had this

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to read? You're actually, I've
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where you're reading something
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looking into the camera, but
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completely different.

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And as smooth as silk, except
for Yeah,

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except this wasn't so smooth.
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counting down to the 2030 arm
again, like my God, look how

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beautiful this type font is.
This looks really good. And then

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I messed up taxes. I said taxes
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there Yeah. Gitmo nation,

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I remember that first, when I
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was young, in college, and just
after college, and I would you'd

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read these PSAs. And you know,
these different kinds of things.

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And you Yeah, and I remember the
first time where I was reading

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it, where I actually felt like I
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it. I know, it's you

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know, it's, it's, it's really,
when you get to that level, and

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I had that because at MTV was
almost eight years of this, when

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you get to that level where
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lines and a n one word. And you
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talk to people it really is.
It's like, it's like, it's it's

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great. It really is. It makes
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whatever happens, I thought that
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Like I got this, I can handle
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elbow, if you sound natural,
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feel natural. And you're even
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think that's kind of an
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indeed. As opposed to some
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that they're always reading it
sounds like already. Of course,

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some people may I think an
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version of this is to just make
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when you talk.

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Yeah. Hi, honey. How are you
doing today?

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What Hello, dear. How

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was your day? How are you? Gonna
try that? No, but Dave Jones,

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who's been working on the
freedom controller with me for

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we've been doing this three
years now. I think he delivered

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the kind of like the next
generation. This thing this

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software, John, it's almost it's
like, it's like a news show in a

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box thing. It takes you all the
way from, like a Pinterest for

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news, all the way to show notes
all the way through. The no

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agenda show runs on this.

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And it says, I just wrote that
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will be lost to history
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was right.

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What did you write down
Pinterest for news? Yeah, yeah,

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no, I It's funny because I had
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middle of the night. And I
emailed myself that I'm like,

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Hey, that's pretty good.
Actually. That's a pitch. That's

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a pitch right there.

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as Pinterest for news.

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no Pinterest for the news room.
John, for the news room. It's

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even better than that. Anyway,
so just to start off, I did not

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watch you on on the twit shows
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decided to watch the Golden
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beginning to end, we actually
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needed to experience some
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you know, luckily here in the
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traditional for years because
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the east coasters and then you
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o'clock. They play it twice in a

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row. Oh, right. So you get it
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over again at eight so I didn't
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going to miss them because I'm
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I just catch it at eight.

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So here's I have no clips or
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because it was the experience in
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the entire every acceptance
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political stuff? I don't care if
it's pro or con, it doesn't

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matter. Can somebody please say
something about the state of the

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world on this this incredible
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Now, especially with the Golden
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fun, and you can do whatever you
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and by the way, it's the
Hollywood foreign press. It's

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about the entire world. It's not
just the United States is the

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foreign press.

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You know, the Golden Globes are
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I, is that I don't know. Is that
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far as I can? I know. Yeah, he's
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on a on Public Radio. I'm sorry,
Public TV. Well, then Bart kept

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right. It kept needling him
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They used to be completely
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cleaned that up a while ago. But
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thing is after we were done, and
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time, I turned off the TV and
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each other like, I'm so
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because for three hours, the
television was telling me my

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family is not perfect. I don't
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I mean, I felt like, assaulted
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and I'm a sensitive guy in
general. And yeah, my family is

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not perfect. And then you just
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kids or all that kids and
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they all love each other and
everything fabulous. Oh, and

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then and the kid winds up being
an Olympic athlete. And you just

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feel like a shit like a stupid
no good low life parent. Who's

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who has the wrong car? I don't
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know what that is. But I
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you know, this is not healthy
for you know, we never watch

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television or rarely to really
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don't know how people No wonder
people need all these

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antidepressants. That television
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really, you know, it was like a
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Like kind of sped watch it. So I
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know you kind of skipped around.
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watched about a third of it. And
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her friend are funny to a point
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you know, how many times is it
gonna remain funny that the

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these chicks are drunk and
making out with with superstars?

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How am this not funny anymore?
It's just not. It's not funny

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and how many people are
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is when you're doing inside
jokes. No one unders. No one

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knows who he is like some fat
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who that is. Now, that wasn't
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There's a little too much inside
baseball. The thing

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that was very that's the kind of
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stems from a post. It may have
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and I'm sure they stole it from
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gay community, the LGBTQ Q and I
are very outraged at Matthew

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McConaughey and Jared Leto. And
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this is how lame, the LGBTQ Qi
community really is. They feel

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that Matthew McConaughey he and
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for their starring role in
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Buyers Club, which I thought was
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end there when they they kind of
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industry and and undid the whole
movie by saying, Oh, well, you

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know, really that drug? AZT,
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people less of it, more people
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about that that cancer drug
killing AIDS patients, HIV

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patients. They're all saying in
your acceptance speech, you

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shouldn't have talked so much
about Brazilian waxing. You

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should have talked about HIV
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did you watch the movie? The
whole movie was a statement

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about this. And then these guys
win and then everyone's pissed

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off because they're talking
about how much weight they had

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to lose or how hard it was to
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characters. is sad. It is sad.

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I missed that part.

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It's one of the bees in the BB.

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I didn't know I take it back. I
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guy's a robot. Not Yes, zero
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does not seem like a person.
You'd go have a drink with very

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robotic, stiff.

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Everyone's drunk at this thing.
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well, that could be but he's
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Anyway, so I'm just I got more
about the gay community in

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general. I got more to bitch
about today. Oh, yes. No, it's

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very good. Do you want to first
start with the obvious I have a

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I have a clip that this is this
relates to the newsletter and of

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course the Red Book since you
said it's full. Do you have a

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clip about, about the DEA stuff?
Because I have a clip?

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No, I do not. Okay. Oh, they

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claimed that there were as many
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the way, this this, by the way
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with broth. And I say funny,
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completely we went this goes
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or 12 1211 Maybe, I don't know,
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that we were taught, you know,
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we first picked up, I think it
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years ago. Yeah. And he had in
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think I put a link into the
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Yes, the actual the actual
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this is now blowing up and I
believe it's all part of the

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Hillary 2016 You're now it's tit
for tat it's we're gonna we're

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gonna make your Republicans look
bad. We'll make your Democrats

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look bad. We're gonna make you
look bad. We're gonna make you

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look bad. Oh, yeah. Well, look
at I got I got these documents

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from the DEA, I'm gonna make you
look bad. And of course, CNN

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can't really make the president
or the DEA or holder anybody

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really looked bad. So they're
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They claimed that there were as
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DEA, and operatives, from
Mexican drug cartels. Now,

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before I continue with this, by
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I love it when whenever there's
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drug cartels from Mexico, bring
in the Hispanic reporter,

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please. This is so obvious what
they're doing now read CNN to

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tell

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you exactly how they got their
information. Essentially, they

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took a look at a case out of
federal court in Chicago. This

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is a deposition that they mainly
base the report on and the

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position it wasn't a

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deposition. Now I know. I know.

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He's lying. He's lying. No, he
doesn't know what he's talking

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about. I don't think he's lying.
Meanwhile, they're, they're

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showing the documents and the
court documents are scrolling by

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kind of really small on the
screen. They're discrediting the

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actual evidence from this court
case, which we've put in the

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show notes and we discussed an
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a Mexican drug lord in which he
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he wasn't a drug lord. Getting
everything wrong. He wasn't a

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drug dealer. He wasn't using
Enforcer. We're

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never gonna get through this
clip. He was mediating between

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the leadership of the Sinaloa
drug cartel and the DEA. Now, it

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is really up for interpretation
whether we want to believe what

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an attorney for a drug cartel
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Wolf, real quick. What he told
in deposition. Again, this is

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under oath, he said, Mr. Lawyer
Castro This is the attorney that

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I'm telling you about stated
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exchange, the attorney

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wasn't under oath,

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keeping keeping you I'm counting
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Unbelievable.

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You know, what rival drug
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United States government agreed
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the pending case against Mr.
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with his drug trafficking
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Sinaloa Cartel not to act

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you have to say and those of the
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like it is when you're doing
Hey, bro did the Sinaloa Cartel

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activity prosecute

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him and listen to this

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prosecute him? Why can't they
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why do they have to have this
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It's so the only one who
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it's racist. Yes, thank

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you leadership of the Sinaloa
Cartel and not to apprehend

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them. The agents stated that
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approved by high ranking
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prosecutors. And Wolf, let me
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out to the DEA, they have no
comment on this case. And

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there's no Mexican official that
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with filed in 2010 information
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Yeah, but we're on the ball.
Now, you see,

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and it was fine. Now we're
looking at 2014. And these guys

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at CNN are dragging it into the

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let's see your broth wrap it

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up. Do we know anything else
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arrangements, including if there
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The report doesn't specifically
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is very specific like you'd let
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America. Give us all of Chicago
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I think they I think they're
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I don't get why they that would
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when there's a deal but okay,

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very specifically about the fact
that in exchange for information

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for managing the the operative
was going to essentially avoid

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any type of prosecution
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cartel known as the Sinaloa
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to us agents about rival drug
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cartels and the Gulf Cartel.

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Dr. Fauci thanks so much, as
always for joining us guys at

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Dr. Burrows. She's playing the
broth Penuel role Clint, sorry.

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You stepped on it.

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Good work and play it again.
Come on, come on.

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Good work. Good work that Dr.
Fauci thanks so much as always

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for joining us. Good to be here,
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I just it's it's always funny.
It's always good for me I think

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those girls making out with the
celebrities as funny. This is

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this is this is high level
comedy. Well, exactly. Do you

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want to just briefly explain
since we had this in the Red

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Book, we had this in the book
more than two years ago. We've

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discussed it ad nauseam on the
show and I believe although I

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wouldn't know exactly where to
look. I believe in the show we

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actually said this no, this will
never come to light no one's

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ever going to this that was
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didn't think we said that. I
think we said this will go

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nowhere. I'm pretty sure we said
something. I don't remember

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saying then whatever the case
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Essentially now it's cropped up
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no sense to me a four years
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after the Fed, I

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think I think it's a tit for
tat. I mean, this is I see this

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continue. So first we slam
Biden, then we slam Christie,

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you know, then we've got to go
back we got to slam you know,

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here's what's here's what's
interesting about it, to me it

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that listening to that report,
nowhere do they mention which is

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in the document as as I recall,
having looked at it again is

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isn't mentioned on these news
reports that Fast and Furious,

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was a gun running operation
which explains everything no no

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of course lost guns. It explains
the laws of guns because they

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were never lost. They were
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Cartel to some to kill the

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whatever the kid not to, to get
rid of the other gang members,

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which was get rid

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of the other gangs and do that
do that, you know, divide and

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conquer something. JC mushkil
Jr. mentioned, there's a there's

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a video game that has this. Were
some Booker, some novel that

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uses this model of taking, just
providing one group and amongst

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a lot of groups, all the power
until they wipe out the other

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groups and then you wipe them
out, which is the way it always

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ends. And I'm sure the Sinhala
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avoid that. Well,

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do you think that that was the
plan all along was to get to do

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that and then to wind up wiping
out the Sinaloa Cartel? What do

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you think that was the actual
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yeah, now that you mentioned the
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probably one of these. What do
you think bureaucrats who's

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sitting around reading all the
time to do this?

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You know what, when we talked
about this, a lot of people

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emailed about this storyline,
and I'm pretty sure the chat

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room will will recall what it
was it was from a TV series. Not

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to get it was not it was a TV
series that had this exact

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storyline.

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Yeah, well, this is the
storyline I think that they're

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trying to implement. I don't
think it's doable. But the fact

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that CNN wouldn't mentioned the
Fast and Furious thing, which

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does explain the whole thing.
You know, me if you look at as a

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gun running operation, yeah.
Okay. Now, it makes sense that,

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you know, the guns are all over
the place down there that we

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sent them. And we're behind it,
and the agent got killed with a

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gun. And so they had to kind of
change their story where they

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didn't want to admit they're
doing this because the American

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public doesn't understand
something as complicated as

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this. And I'm sure it sounds
great in the meetings. You know,

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what?

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I got a great idea. I saw this
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This is this will work. It
worked on TV.

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Yeah, exactly. So I think but

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if if they if if someone just
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public and did a fireside chat,
I don't know. How about, let

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Michelle do it. You know, at
this point, no one's gonna

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believe Barack, let Michelle do
it sit down and say, look, look,

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listen. Here was the plan. All
we wanted to do was you wanted

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to get rid of all the gangs so
we we pick the guys we thought

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were the winners the Sinaloa
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we let them traffic some drugs
where we needed the money for

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the banks anyway, you know that
the exchange will look the whole

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economy is running on the on
this drug money from Mexico. And

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the money comes back into our
country. So that's all good for

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Barclays and USBC. US whatever.
And then the idea was once those

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guys were the only ones left,
then we drove them. And then

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then we'd be rid of the problem.
Yeah. And I think most American

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ones will go oh, well, okay.
America. No, yeah. No,

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no, I don't think so. It
probably has been you you're

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ignoring the fact that after
watching this three hours of

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television, the public is
nullified. It's a public has

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lost it.

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So there was something else that
that all of a sudden started

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happening. And this is a there
is definitely the powers are at

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play here. And this, there's no
and I think I have a theory on

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where it's going. There is no
doubt this is moving towards the

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2000 while certainly the 2014
but towards you know, we need

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three years at least. Well, it's
gonna be two now for the 2016 In

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election, it's time it's time to
start. The TV networks need the

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ad revenue they want. They need
the controversy. They need

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something to start. So now stuff
is coming out. And of course,

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one of the main things that may
have gotten snowed under a

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little bit was this report about
the military. And knowing within

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15 minutes that the attack on
the consulate in Benghazi was in

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fact a terror attack.

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A Senate panel report says the
September 11 2012 attack on a US

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diplomatic outpost in Benghazi
Libya was preventable. The

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attack killed the US Ambassador
to Libya, Christopher Stevens

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and three other US government
personnel. But the State

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Department says there was no
specific evidence to show that

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militants were preparing an
attack.

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Now here's the other report goes
to the heart of the Benghazi

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matter. Now, newly declassified
documents show that President

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Obama's closest military
advisors knew within 15 minutes.

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It was terrorism on September
11.

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And let me just remind you of
the response from the President

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in the Rose Garden at the United
Nations and from clippity clop

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Hillary Clinton

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we reject all efforts to
denigrate the religious beliefs

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of others. Some have sought to
justify this vicious behaviour

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along with the protest that took
place at our embassy in Cairo

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yesterday. As a response to
inflammatory material posted on

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the Internet.

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That is what we saw play out in
the last two weeks. It was a

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crude and disgusting video
sparked outrage throughout the

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Muslim world. I have made it
clear that the United States

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government had nothing to do
with this video.

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It's so fun to listen to things
in retrospect nobody plays this

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stuff. No, of course not. Now.
Now, here's something I think I

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have a theory and it ties into
this report. I'm sure you read

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this and I didn't really look
it's not so much about the truth

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in it or but it's that Hitler's
mind comp. The book is

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apparently exploding in ebook
sales. And, and I'm not quite

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sure I haven't yet this data, it
just Google it. Yeah, Amazon is

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for some reason. Hitler's mind
calm is that's that is the here

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ABC News. Hitler's mind calm
surges in ebook sales Pitlor out

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of Hitler's anti semitic
political testament mind calm.

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I'm not so sure was only about I
don't think there was no anyway.

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Whatever. This is written by
someone who I don't think Reddit

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is surging up electronic book
bestseller lists. Now, I don't

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think people are looking for a
new Hitler necessary, but I do

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think we need to be on the
lookout for something else. And

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we can just look at history. And
I think that this report kind of

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ties into that this is this was
a little collection of what has

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happened to the military
leadership in the in these

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United States. And this is only
maybe a third of what's happened

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since Benghazi a stunning

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chain of events today. Michael
Kerry, the two star general

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responsible for the nation's
three intercontinental ballistic

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missile wings fired from his
command the reason personnel

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misbehaviour on a military
business trip. This comes just

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48 hours after President Obama
himself relieved the number two

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in command over the nation's
nuclear arsenal over his

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suspected use of counterfeit
poker chips. These following

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alarming string of general
officers losing their jobs this

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year for inappropriate
behaviour, misconduct or lack of

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leadership to Marine Corps
generals fired less than two

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weeks ago for not providing
proper force protection in

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Afghanistan, and Army Brigadier
General relieved of duty for

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adultery, and army two star
general fired from groping a

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civilian. And in March, a navy
one star removed for racially

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insensitive comments and abusive
leadership. Now,

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of course, we know that general
Ham was removed, we have the

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Admirals being removed since
Benghazi. I think the the this

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administration is very worried,
not about a new Hitler, who

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would be a national
nationalistic figure because

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that's what Hitler was. And I by
the way, it's pretty well

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documented who funded Hitler and
it was, without doubt, America

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had a hand in that, certainly
the Bush family they're afraid

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of a new Napoleon. And Napoleon,
of course, was a lieutenant who

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rose through the ranks and I
think they're trying to get rid

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of anybody who could stand up
here the military is no friends

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with this administration or with
this Congress, you know, cutting

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their promised benefits, etc.
And the military personnel they

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got to I don't know tanks,
Weapons Guy. aeroplanes ships.

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And, and I'm thinking that there
still was a chance and you may

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think I'm nuts. Yeah, that
general former General David

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Petraeus may move to the
forefront as the Napoleon who

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needs to come and and save the
nation. Now that Christy's out

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of the way that's not going to
happen anymore I think there's a

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there's a possibility that that
is why this Purge is taking

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place anyone who has any type of
power whatsoever get them out of

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the way quick if they're not
loyal

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I don't think so. Personally, I
just don't see this kind of

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action taking place betray us
I'm sure would like to think

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that himself why people are
reading mind calm is probably

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because it's free. I'm guessing
on the on the ebooks. It's a

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good read. I mean, I've read it.

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Yeah, it's, you know, here's
what we should do. We should I

448
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,760
guess, is it a public domain by
now?

449
00:26:07,710 --> 00:26:10,020
Well, I don't think Hitler's
gonna sue you for copyright

450
00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:13,410
infringement. Well, then then we
can release a net technically it

451
00:26:13,410 --> 00:26:16,110
technically it's he was done and
it's it couldn't be public

452
00:26:16,110 --> 00:26:16,440
domain.

453
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:21,240
So we could rerelease it. And
then on the cover, it would say

454
00:26:21,330 --> 00:26:23,460
it's a good read John C. Dvorak.

455
00:26:25,230 --> 00:26:29,100
Yeah, that's what I don't think
we should we should re edit it.

456
00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:29,910
That would be funny.

457
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,570
That would be very funny. It's a
it's

458
00:26:33,570 --> 00:26:37,950
a good line comedy calm. It's
probably Yeah, it's with a

459
00:26:37,950 --> 00:26:38,430
Hitler.

460
00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:41,430
It's probably been done. No, Mel
Brooks, of course did history of

461
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:43,590
the world, which was great. And
he did a lot of that stuff in

462
00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:51,600
there. Anyway, I, I had a, I
think a stroke of genius, which

463
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:57,270
is going to help us retire. I
know you're always on the

464
00:26:57,270 --> 00:27:03,120
lookout for that. And, and it is
also going to help everyone who

465
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:06,450
is a part of the no agenda
production family. Start a

466
00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:11,130
business that will be very
successful. Does it sound like a

467
00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:11,940
win win to you?

468
00:27:14,010 --> 00:27:16,890
Does it sound like anything but
hot air but go on?

469
00:27:16,980 --> 00:27:22,650
Okay. What were the big
Armageddon, crises of our time?

470
00:27:23,310 --> 00:27:30,510
I won't go back too far. 2000
What was 2000? I don't know You

471
00:27:30,510 --> 00:27:36,660
of course. You know, the, the
millennial bug. y2k. y2k? And

472
00:27:36,660 --> 00:27:40,320
what was that basically?
Bullshit sales and soaking the

473
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,800
public that would billions of
dollars made may be hundreds of

474
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:44,400
billions.

475
00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:47,550
Right. Exactly. All right. Well,
you might have mentioned the.com

476
00:27:47,550 --> 00:27:48,870
collapse in 2001.

477
00:27:48,899 --> 00:27:52,679
No, no, no, this is simply
because it was just a date. All

478
00:27:52,679 --> 00:27:54,689
it was was a desktop look just
dates.

479
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,930
Okay. I'm playing along as best
I can. All right. What

480
00:27:57,930 --> 00:28:00,000
was the next time this scam
happened?

481
00:28:02,460 --> 00:28:03,210
911.

482
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:09,720
Now, no date that people were
afraid. That's a date. No, no,

483
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,970
no, no, no, John, you don't
understand what 2012 The Miami?

484
00:28:15,150 --> 00:28:17,370
The Mayan Calendar end of the
world.

485
00:28:17,490 --> 00:28:20,520
All right, right. 2012 the end
of the world I remember that

486
00:28:21,090 --> 00:28:23,730
billing on the show because I
went to a meeting with a bunch

487
00:28:23,730 --> 00:28:25,530
of these people that were
expecting the worst

488
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,880
billions of dollars made on
that. No aliens. We even made

489
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,450
money on it with my and
challenge coins. Exactly. Okay,

490
00:28:33,450 --> 00:28:37,770
so it's clear that breakpoint by
the way, here's a crazy

491
00:28:37,770 --> 00:28:43,380
beautiful coin. It's clear that
the human psyche likes this. And

492
00:28:43,380 --> 00:28:47,880
we like having some doomsday
date that you know, that

493
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,170
everyone lives forward to and of
course, you know, you can make a

494
00:28:52,170 --> 00:28:55,800
tonne of money and you need
about a decade. So that was

495
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:59,130
between us it was 12 years
between the y2k and then we had

496
00:28:59,130 --> 00:29:02,190
the 2002 and it was nothing but
a date based upon some

497
00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:06,960
smorgasbord bullcrap Mayan dumb
stuff. And everyone bought into

498
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:16,290
it and was tonnes of money. So,
my idea 2030 2031 And 2030 is

499
00:29:16,290 --> 00:29:19,440
going to be the next date and
it's going to be Armageddon.

500
00:29:20,430 --> 00:29:26,850
2030 is the new 2012 In fact, I
registered the 2030 club.com so

501
00:29:26,850 --> 00:29:32,130
you can go you can go there
right now the 2030 club.com. And

502
00:29:32,220 --> 00:29:36,810
if you Google around for 2030
new stories it's already

503
00:29:36,810 --> 00:29:42,120
happening. Obesity Apocalypse by
2030 says ABC News I

504
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,720
got 2030 club.com This is
welcome to Web I affordable

505
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:52,260
reliable. The VA with the why
don't you just get 2030 club

506
00:29:52,260 --> 00:29:56,640
because it was taken by whereby
wherever you just landed on

507
00:29:57,210 --> 00:30:01,890
Hello, don't you think? You
think I'm stupid? The no the

508
00:30:01,890 --> 00:30:03,060
2030 Science

509
00:30:03,060 --> 00:30:07,290
is in 23 We'll see total
Armageddon, climate systems,

510
00:30:07,290 --> 00:30:11,400
financial systems food. Sure.
Yeah. You got to Okay, well, we

511
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,860
gotta get our consulting
meeting. Okay. So first of all,

512
00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:18,900
yes. First of all, this all has
to be centred. On page.

513
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,510
This is just a placeholder.

514
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,710
It just to be centred, it has to
be a black background with red

515
00:30:25,710 --> 00:30:26,370
fonts.

516
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,760
Sorry, you are so right. Yes.
With red letters, yes,

517
00:30:32,790 --> 00:30:35,250
I'm sorry. And maximum font
size.

518
00:30:36,570 --> 00:30:39,510
Okay, I'm taking notes, hold on,
all centred

519
00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:42,900
down, the gut has to go all the
way to China, it's gotta be a

520
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:44,520
long note leading

521
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:50,700
notes, hold on, hold on. black
background, red letters, and

522
00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:51,300
then green

523
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:52,230
and yellow letters,

524
00:30:52,530 --> 00:30:55,350
flashing, flashing, blinking
stuff. No

525
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:59,610
blinking, blinking. And so it
goes all the way down. And then

526
00:30:59,610 --> 00:31:03,180
all these links are not links,
they're just further down on the

527
00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:06,090
same page. So the page is really
long, just

528
00:31:06,690 --> 00:31:11,670
just one very long page. Okay.
So here's the idea.

529
00:31:11,970 --> 00:31:16,230
By by the way, if you want, you
can have a few animated GIFs.

530
00:31:17,490 --> 00:31:20,910
Yes. And so you know, you need
to, we need to get your cycle

531
00:31:20,910 --> 00:31:24,660
book out. And just 2030 is the
date, whatever it is, isn't

532
00:31:24,660 --> 00:31:28,860
gonna change at 2030 is the day,
we need t shirts. Everybody can

533
00:31:28,860 --> 00:31:32,370
get in on this. And, of course,
you can become a member of the

534
00:31:32,370 --> 00:31:35,520
2030 Club starting as of the
beginning of January, and you'll

535
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,180
be on this list, too, right?
Adam and John are there. So if

536
00:31:39,180 --> 00:31:42,870
you donate a total of 2030, then
you're in the 2030. Club, this

537
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:50,010
is your website. But if you
donate $7.30 a month, by 2030,

538
00:31:50,010 --> 00:31:52,170
you'll be a member of the 2030.
Club. So there's a number of

539
00:31:52,170 --> 00:31:55,110
ways to get time. Yeah, just
there's a number of ways to get

540
00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:59,700
there. My thinking is, this is
our retirement plan. Because

541
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:03,090
every game in 16 years will want
to retire will be tired of that.

542
00:32:03,090 --> 00:32:05,190
I think that I think that's a
good 2030 I think is a good

543
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:09,360
number for you and I to end the
show in 2030. And we just need

544
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,670
to push the Armageddon, I'm not
quite sure which one it's going

545
00:32:11,670 --> 00:32:17,850
to be I have jobs apocalypse
2030 Food apocalypse, jobs, pot,

546
00:32:18,090 --> 00:32:24,030
food crisis 2030 climate crisis
2030, water, water, water would

547
00:32:24,270 --> 00:32:28,860
be a good one water may write
that down to water. So I think

548
00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:33,540
we just need to own 2030
Whenever someone Google's 2030,

549
00:32:33,540 --> 00:32:37,350
Armageddon, 2030 apocalypse, we
need to own that they need to

550
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:39,780
show up on our black background
with red letters.

551
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:42,660
Right? But we can have alternate
sites, there's no reason to just

552
00:32:42,660 --> 00:32:43,560
have one side,

553
00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:47,550
of course, and attend and all
producers can get in on this

554
00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:50,910
because they can start 2030
businesses, which will make

555
00:32:50,910 --> 00:32:54,420
money 30 sites Yes. And then
you'd send us you know, a little

556
00:32:54,420 --> 00:32:57,450
piece of the of the action. And
we'll keep we promise, our

557
00:32:57,450 --> 00:33:03,000
promise is we will propagate
2030 as the Armageddon year. And

558
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,950
we'll make 2030 The new to 2012
and everybody else can start a

559
00:33:07,950 --> 00:33:08,670
business on it.

560
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,680
Now, you said that there's an
alternative ending to the Mayan

561
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,960
calendar. That was 2030 No, I

562
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,620
didn't say that.

563
00:33:17,340 --> 00:33:19,620
Oh, well. You just did now. i
Oh, I'm

564
00:33:19,620 --> 00:33:24,330
sorry. Yes. I know. I think
that's too flimsy. I like the

565
00:33:24,330 --> 00:33:24,720
water. I

566
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,790
think it's just an element.
Yeah, but I

567
00:33:26,820 --> 00:33:30,180
know I like water because no one
has really claimed that yet. And

568
00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:34,080
it's so unprovable. And I'm sure
tonne water

569
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,810
with water is going to be
somehow that vanish from the

570
00:33:36,810 --> 00:33:37,680
face of the earth.

571
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:41,340
It'll only be bottled water
owned by Coca Cola. No.

572
00:33:41,490 --> 00:33:43,320
Well, actually, there's already
some evidence that they're

573
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,990
trying people are trying to buy
up these huge water reservoirs

574
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,980
Well, wishes have an aquifer is
in paradise,

575
00:33:50,130 --> 00:33:56,520
Paraguay. So this is perfect.
2030 the 2030 club.com and we

576
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,070
will I'm going to change the
background I'll get the red

577
00:33:59,070 --> 00:34:02,580
letters going and it'll just be
news about and I'll and I will

578
00:34:02,580 --> 00:34:06,390
maintain it. I'm happy to do
that with stories about how 2013

579
00:34:06,390 --> 00:34:09,270
It's just just going to it's
going everything's going to end

580
00:34:09,659 --> 00:34:11,939
I like the way you've got this
this goes climate system

581
00:34:11,939 --> 00:34:15,329
financial system food shortages,
obesity crisis fact.

582
00:34:18,270 --> 00:34:20,700
Hey, this is well this is only
one half of the consulting group

583
00:34:20,700 --> 00:34:23,400
imagine when we do a couple
meetings on this. Yeah.

584
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,470
You like yeah, no, I do and
you've done that you've managed

585
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:33,000
to come up with these crazy
schemes on an occasional basis

586
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,350
and they've always been
successful.

587
00:34:35,820 --> 00:34:39,960
And so here are the here's what
I'm gonna post today. Oh, here

588
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:46,770
it is. study predicts obesity
apocalypse. By 2030 ABC News.

589
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:49,200
Here's how they start off their
article rising

590
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:50,309
sea SAPA lick,

591
00:34:50,670 --> 00:34:55,320
the beast apocalypse, rising sea
levels, flying cars speculation

592
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,450
about what the world will look
like a quarter century from now

593
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,690
or in no short supply, but if
new research released this week

594
00:35:00,690 --> 00:35:03,600
is correct. We can at least be
sure of one thing the forecast

595
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,220
calls for fatness

596
00:35:06,990 --> 00:35:09,120
that were you getting that ABC
News?

597
00:35:09,810 --> 00:35:13,380
Wow released in the journal
obesity. The studies suggest

598
00:35:13,380 --> 00:35:16,590
that by the year 2030, all I
gotta do a little every nearly

599
00:35:16,590 --> 00:35:19,140
every American will be
overweight or overweight or

600
00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:25,110
obese. So that's one. Then we
have the apocalypse delayed

601
00:35:25,110 --> 00:35:28,080
until 20. This is CNET. UK
Government,

602
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:30,630
American will be obese. Yeah.

603
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:36,570
We'll be retired, but we'll be
fat. The UK government's chief

604
00:35:36,570 --> 00:35:39,720
scientists declares that 2030
will be the year in which food

605
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:43,980
and energy shortages coupled
with population explosion, and

606
00:35:43,980 --> 00:35:47,970
climate change will create
disaster. But do you need any

607
00:35:47,970 --> 00:35:51,300
more headline than that? No,
that's a good one. These guys

608
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:56,730
are writing it for us. For a
stray meteorite might smack into

609
00:35:56,730 --> 00:35:58,740
the world. I like that too.

610
00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:01,080
Beautiful. Beautiful.

611
00:36:01,439 --> 00:36:02,519
We're all doomed.

612
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:06,360
So I think we need so a will
maintain the 2030 club at

613
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,410
2030 club.com. And you can
certainly register domain names

614
00:36:10,410 --> 00:36:15,720
and point to this. And we'll
work on we'll work on some more

615
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:19,050
of the I'm just going to put
stories there just because it

616
00:36:19,050 --> 00:36:24,720
needs to be the 2030 hub of
information. And we'll continue

617
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,910
to propagate that so you can
everyone else can build a

618
00:36:26,910 --> 00:36:31,620
business around it. And oh,
there's

619
00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:33,030
plenty of there's seminars.

620
00:36:35,370 --> 00:36:38,100
Webinars Baby, what are you
talking about webinars

621
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:41,490
and seminars and these crazy
cost to get up there and they

622
00:36:41,490 --> 00:36:44,820
tell you how it's all going to
end webinar. This one over was

623
00:36:44,820 --> 00:36:53,550
in Masonic over by the NARS
area, San Francisco. The Greens

624
00:36:53,550 --> 00:36:56,640
restaurant is whatever it is,
it's a waste, whole area. And

625
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,550
they had the big meeting there
of all these 2012 people we were

626
00:36:59,550 --> 00:37:03,510
actually at a dinner and then we
walked by and I went in. And

627
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:07,650
meanwhile, you know my mom, Mimi
and Jay oh, gosh, don't go in.

628
00:37:08,370 --> 00:37:12,810
So So I went in, and the place
was crawling with babes. Oh,

629
00:37:12,810 --> 00:37:16,830
really? Yeah. These 2012 vein
what a benefit and what the

630
00:37:16,830 --> 00:37:17,400
heck.

631
00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:23,100
Oh, pop side John. Oh my gosh,
this stuff is just writing

632
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:28,350
itself. Pop sigh Surely you've
heard of pop psi OpSite hop psi.

633
00:37:29,340 --> 00:37:34,140
MIT predicts world economy will
collapse by 2030 Oh, come on.

634
00:37:34,140 --> 00:37:38,790
This is beautiful. You gotta get
your book out and put this link

635
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:40,800
in the show notes. This is
fabulous.

636
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,100
Well, you know what, according
to the cycle, what actually

637
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:45,150
happens in 2030?

638
00:37:47,460 --> 00:37:48,990
probably really good stuff.

639
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:52,320
We're done. It's all grassy,
nothing. Oh,

640
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,630
I didn't hear you say that.

641
00:37:55,950 --> 00:37:59,190
Okay, well talking about that
since you're talking about the

642
00:37:59,190 --> 00:38:03,210
obesity thing. So I'm live
watching this watching some

643
00:38:03,210 --> 00:38:08,970
television and let's see what
clip is here. It's history of

644
00:38:08,970 --> 00:38:13,290
copywriting and making available
How about is

645
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:16,140
click Bitcoin crashes 2030

646
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,890
But yeah, that's definitely
going to happen controversy over

647
00:38:19,890 --> 00:38:20,700
spinning.

648
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,920
Oh, hold on a second. It's funny
we were just talking

649
00:38:25,980 --> 00:38:28,110
disappointed in this jury is out

650
00:38:29,550 --> 00:38:35,040
on the docket All right, we're
gonna move on now to one of the

651
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,100
hottest workout trends doesn't
make you bigger instead of

652
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:41,670
smaller celebrity trainer Tracy
Anderson landed in the hot seat

653
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:47,040
after saying that spinning bulks
up the thought of Juju Chang is

654
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,900
a spinning fan. She's here with
the skinny on the exercise. Nice

655
00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:52,560
fun Robin.

656
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:58,170
Now, as you know, I am an expert
in the in the whole lies

657
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,280
spinning.

658
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:05,130
I had no idea that spinning is
nothing more than a bunch of

659
00:39:05,130 --> 00:39:09,420
people getting in a room on
stationary bicycles. And been

660
00:39:09,420 --> 00:39:13,500
pumping away like crazy. That is
not true. That's what it looks

661
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:16,290
like to me. Right? Do you would
you like to get your own

662
00:39:16,290 --> 00:39:19,110
stationary bicycle in your house
and do the same thing? Yes.

663
00:39:19,110 --> 00:39:21,750
You can't cheat or would you
like me to tell you what it

664
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:22,560
really is?

665
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:24,870
No. Okay, go ahead.

666
00:39:25,260 --> 00:39:27,150
No, you're just gonna mock

667
00:39:27,150 --> 00:39:30,720
up my bigoted opinion on this.
Yeah, he's mostly in there with

668
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:32,940
a bunch of women. They're all
pumping away pumping away

669
00:39:32,940 --> 00:39:34,710
pumping away and you're getting
big thighs?

670
00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:41,640
No. Okay, no. There's multiple
parts of this one is for someone

671
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:46,050
who is intimidated by going to a
gym, where there's a bunch of

672
00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:50,010
guys walking around with huge
abs and you know, and there's

673
00:39:50,010 --> 00:39:52,080
like a sock in their crotch
yoke.

674
00:39:52,380 --> 00:39:55,320
Like Jesus gives you an exercise
causes that.

675
00:39:55,620 --> 00:39:58,740
But they put a sock in the
crotch or they're wearing

676
00:39:58,740 --> 00:39:59,700
something down by the

677
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:03,720
way. Be For you continue let me
say this. I was under the

678
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:06,510
impression that I didn't even
know what spinning was. I didn't

679
00:40:06,510 --> 00:40:09,450
know it's just pumping away. I
thought it was some sort of like

680
00:40:09,450 --> 00:40:12,690
maybe some yoga like thing where
you're in a room spinning like

681
00:40:12,690 --> 00:40:17,280
with your arms out, no bending
around, I'd say you Well, I

682
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,220
guess what Adam to get into the
eventual

683
00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:26,040
No, that's not what it is. So
the so it is for. And it's

684
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,100
mainly for women, because it's
women mainly who are there. But

685
00:40:29,220 --> 00:40:36,900
for guys, it's fabulous because
80 plus 80% of the audience in

686
00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:42,960
the spin class are women who
already look good. And then you

687
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,070
have the ones who need help and
are there for you know, to lose

688
00:40:47,070 --> 00:40:52,050
weight and, and they're really
nice. And you can you can come

689
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:56,070
you can fraternise with them
easily because they're like,

690
00:40:56,070 --> 00:40:57,330
hey, you know, you're nice. You

691
00:40:57,330 --> 00:40:59,280
can't you get to move the
bicycle around. Now

692
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,840
you're all in a row next to each
other. And this these are, these

693
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:09,360
are very specific type of spin,
exercise bicycles, you know, and

694
00:41:09,540 --> 00:41:11,610
you can change the friction on
the flywheel.

695
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:14,670
I understand that but how can
you fraternise with anybody

696
00:41:14,670 --> 00:41:15,990
except the one next to you?

697
00:41:16,020 --> 00:41:18,840
That's well no you fraternise as
you get going in as you're

698
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,020
coming out and with the person
next to you and and and it is

699
00:41:22,020 --> 00:41:27,690
really a performance by the
trainer who puts together a

700
00:41:27,930 --> 00:41:32,460
playlist of songs that have
specific rhythms It's not unlike

701
00:41:32,460 --> 00:41:37,650
going to a club. In fact, you
all get into the same vibe and

702
00:41:37,650 --> 00:41:40,650
there's exercises you do where
you're moving up and down

703
00:41:40,650 --> 00:41:44,190
standing or using your core
crunches using you know,

704
00:41:44,190 --> 00:41:45,030
exercising or

705
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:49,830
the listeners to the no agenda
show who bring their own iPod

706
00:41:49,830 --> 00:41:53,550
and listen to the no agenda show
while they're at the gym. Now

707
00:41:53,550 --> 00:41:54,990
who are hurting the show with no

708
00:41:54,990 --> 00:41:59,460
snow? That is bullshit. This is
a very I'm going to I'm going to

709
00:41:59,490 --> 00:42:03,960
defend this. I'm going to if
you're going to the gym and

710
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,210
running or working out Yeah, you
should listen to no agenda show

711
00:42:06,210 --> 00:42:11,220
this is a 45 Minute that's all
it is 45 minute high intensity

712
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:15,360
workout. And I have not seen a
bunch of women walking around

713
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,020
with huge thighs in fact I see
nothing but really cute butts

714
00:42:19,590 --> 00:42:24,360
really toned arms really nice
bodies most of them are tiny

715
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,300
this small used for some reason
spin class attracts tiny women.

716
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:33,900
And I myself have lost my entire
almost my entire gut. I have now

717
00:42:33,930 --> 00:42:40,320
a two pack. Instead of one I'm
working towards six and my chest

718
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:45,480
has expanded by an inch and a
half and I feel really really

719
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,500
good my circulation is great. I
went to the dentist he said well

720
00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:51,390
we won't have to rip all your
teeth out like we thought

721
00:42:51,390 --> 00:42:54,480
because your circulation is
really good and your gums sex is

722
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:54,990
good

723
00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:57,300
even at home

724
00:42:59,580 --> 00:43:05,220
that was funny and so yeah, but
this all right

725
00:43:05,220 --> 00:43:09,810
okay, I'm done. All right. So
this is just a what you're

726
00:43:09,810 --> 00:43:13,650
saying really? Is that this is
actually just a publicity stunt

727
00:43:13,650 --> 00:43:16,650
yes for some spin for the
spinning operation who is which

728
00:43:16,650 --> 00:43:19,440
is a commercial operation and
they got some free publicity

729
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,290
definitely good for them.
Definitely. Exactly. This was

730
00:43:22,290 --> 00:43:24,990
not a Good Morning America or
some you know thing which is

731
00:43:24,990 --> 00:43:27,360
perfect for this audience for
that audience. Yeah.

732
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,540
You know, I there were two
things, because I got a couple

733
00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:33,900
of clips from from the morning
shows. You think so you thought

734
00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:37,260
that was dumb? How about this?
This is Charlie Rose. Ladies and

735
00:43:37,260 --> 00:43:40,440
gentlemen, Charlie Rose, the
journalist extraordinaire. And

736
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,260
listen this great piece we've
got about the Smithsonian Lady

737
00:43:43,260 --> 00:43:46,680
Michelle Obama is marking
another fashion milestone. The

738
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,300
Smithsonian Institution decided
two dresses are better than one

739
00:43:52,530 --> 00:43:56,880
is in Washington at National
Museum of American History. Jan

740
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,420
Good morning.

741
00:43:58,410 --> 00:44:00,750
Well, good morning Charlie, Nora
and Gail. Okay, so the

742
00:44:00,750 --> 00:44:04,770
Smithsonian usually only
exhibits the first gown that the

743
00:44:04,770 --> 00:44:08,310
first lady would wear and first
inaugural bolo shocker. Of

744
00:44:08,310 --> 00:44:11,370
course, this white gown that we
all remember Mrs. Obama wore

745
00:44:11,370 --> 00:44:14,280
four years ago that's been on
display here for the past few

746
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,730
years. But starting today, the
public will be able to see Mrs.

747
00:44:17,730 --> 00:44:22,560
Obama's second inaugural ball
gown and Obama's shoes also will

748
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,990
be on display but they're a
little different than the shoes

749
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,380
she wore four years ago. They're
by the same designer Jimmy Choo

750
00:44:28,380 --> 00:44:32,250
and red obviously to match the
red dress but the big difference

751
00:44:32,250 --> 00:44:36,390
is the heel there about half as
tall as the one she wore in the

752
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:37,920
first inaugural boss.

753
00:44:38,910 --> 00:44:44,550
Ah, and we can't win an award
for a podcast yet. The Jimmy

754
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:48,150
Choo shoes from the Second
Inaugural Ball are in the

755
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:53,730
museum. Yeah. And by the way,
Jimmy Choo is not a designer,

756
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,510
you idiot. Jimmy Choo was the
brand the woman who started that

757
00:44:58,410 --> 00:45:04,530
is a woman. Her name is not
Jimmy, ABC went one step further

758
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,850
with your tax dollars

759
00:45:05,850 --> 00:45:08,940
and it's a very revealing People
Magazine Interview with First

760
00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:13,080
Lady Michelle Obama just before
her 50th birthday. So honest on

761
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,220
a range of topics. She

762
00:45:14,220 --> 00:45:17,040
already did the up talk that
birthday it startings including

763
00:45:17,070 --> 00:45:21,000
her take on plastic surgery, and
Botox. We've got an exclusive

764
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,730
first look right here. The big
day is fast approaching. One

765
00:45:26,730 --> 00:45:29,040
thing we know for sure is that
the President has already given

766
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,860
an early gift while on the
annual family vacation in

767
00:45:31,860 --> 00:45:35,250
Hawaii, taking the girls home to
Washington, leaving the first

768
00:45:35,250 --> 00:45:42,480
lady behind for an extra few
days a vacay vacay. With some of

769
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,530
her close friends, including
Oprah, she looks so fantastic.

770
00:45:46,530 --> 00:45:49,290
And just to be clear, Mrs. Obama
says she doesn't Imagine having

771
00:45:49,290 --> 00:45:52,560
plastic surgery, but she's
learned never say

772
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,300
vacay I thought she was gonna
say just to be clear, Mrs. Obama

773
00:45:57,300 --> 00:46:00,480
and Mr. Obama are playing paying
for the extra plane ride and

774
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,800
extra $80,000 a day out of their
own pocket. That's what I

775
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,620
thought she was going to say.
But instead know that she went

776
00:46:07,620 --> 00:46:11,190
back to the lead about the
plastic surgery.

777
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,520
Way, Claire email, I want you to
open up that little thing I sent

778
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,120
you on Obama. Yeah, this is
actually maybe actually

779
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,870
happening. Just actually. It's
actually Actually Actually, this

780
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,920
notice has been showing up in
the National Enquirer, which we

781
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,380
know is actually a pretty good
operation. They paid for their

782
00:46:28,380 --> 00:46:33,210
stories about Obama and Michelle
are having, you know, at the

783
00:46:33,210 --> 00:46:36,180
point of almost getting divorced
and they are having a big fight.

784
00:46:37,110 --> 00:46:39,600
Because Obama's fooling around
somehow

785
00:46:39,630 --> 00:46:43,980
and this reminds me I have it in
the PR links for today. Producer

786
00:46:43,980 --> 00:46:49,680
Tim registered Obama divorce.com
for us. Nice and if you click on

787
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,460
if you go to Obama divorce.com
It currently forwards to the no

788
00:46:53,460 --> 00:46:54,600
agenda show website.

789
00:46:55,530 --> 00:47:00,630
Excellent timing. Yeah. Go to
your Google browser and click on

790
00:47:00,630 --> 00:47:03,840
the images to get to the image
browser or just click type in

791
00:47:03,930 --> 00:47:07,200
Obama tit comb ti t co MB

792
00:47:07,230 --> 00:47:11,100
Hold on a second. Oh, we're not
keep we need to keep up with

793
00:47:11,130 --> 00:47:13,500
SEO. SEO MBE

794
00:47:13,980 --> 00:47:19,920
No. II just the IMF. No, no EADS
t i t c o m. B. B. Alright.

795
00:47:19,980 --> 00:47:22,050
Mama tech calm images.

796
00:47:22,260 --> 00:47:25,620
This is his best buddy from high
school in Hawaii. Supposedly

797
00:47:25,650 --> 00:47:29,640
this is Isn't he a convicted
felon this guy. Now he tried to

798
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:34,140
pick up a whore supposedly ever
you got convicted of that? Yeah,

799
00:47:34,140 --> 00:47:37,680
in 2011. Yeah. Oh, he did. By
the way. There's never a mention

800
00:47:37,710 --> 00:47:40,200
of what the horror was male or
female a

801
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,810
prostitute. And then it's not
really necessary to be so

802
00:47:42,810 --> 00:47:45,240
denigrating towards the oldest
profession.

803
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:49,860
I am sorry. He tried to pick up
a prostitute, which was a sting

804
00:47:49,860 --> 00:47:52,680
operation. And it's never really
clear whether it was a male or a

805
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,640
female. Right. And I if you look
at these photos with Obama

806
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:57,120
hanging out

807
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,610
with this guy that's always
fooling around with is that what

808
00:47:59,610 --> 00:48:01,560
you're saying? I didn't say
anything

809
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,010
of the sort. But I think that
picture of you had the same

810
00:48:05,250 --> 00:48:09,210
layout I do. You would have a
picture with Obama his arm over

811
00:48:09,210 --> 00:48:12,480
the guy in a peculiar way. Yeah,
I see that at the top there. And

812
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,910
then there's another guy that
shows up in their golfing with

813
00:48:14,910 --> 00:48:18,600
their golfing. This guy's name
is Martin Nesbitt. Yeah, he's a

814
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,720
black guy who shows up on a lot
of these

815
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:23,730
shots a bit like Kanye

816
00:48:25,140 --> 00:48:30,540
is a kind of little Kanye. But
there's something up

817
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,510
well and where's Reggie Love and
all this? Because Reggie,

818
00:48:33,540 --> 00:48:36,000
that's what I'm wondering. I
wish I knew you'd bring that up

819
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,700
because I can't find any
connection between enlisted

820
00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:41,190
Reggie's the middleman or
something like that. I have no

821
00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:45,780
idea. But supposedly, when they
went on this December vacation

822
00:48:45,780 --> 00:48:46,410
to Hawaii,

823
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,990
you mean Vagos blow up the vacay

824
00:48:49,710 --> 00:48:54,060
the vacay there was a huge blow
up and to the point where and,

825
00:48:54,330 --> 00:48:58,200
and I guess they were she Mrs.
Obama who do you find a lot of

826
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,680
pictures of her glaring at
Barack glaring Yeah, well,

827
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,690
that's Yeah. On. Cool, glaring.
Yeah. Ever since that little

828
00:49:06,690 --> 00:49:12,330
incident with the Danish woman.
Yeah. They are arguing and when

829
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,840
Obama came back on to 747
Michelle refused to be in the

830
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,470
same plane with him supposedly,
according to the Enquirer. And

831
00:49:19,470 --> 00:49:22,830
it sounds to me as though it's
the Secret Service because I'm

832
00:49:22,830 --> 00:49:26,730
assuming the Enquirer isn't
making this up because they have

833
00:49:26,730 --> 00:49:31,020
a great history of you know,
paying people off to tell us

834
00:49:31,050 --> 00:49:33,300
and not being sued successfully.

835
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:37,530
Exactly. They have been sued
yeah and once in a while they

836
00:49:37,530 --> 00:49:39,780
get fired you know, but it's
usually minor stuff is like this

837
00:49:39,780 --> 00:49:43,080
saying somebody was drunk yeah,
when they weren't it's never

838
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,350
been anything like this like the
John Edwards thing putting the

839
00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:46,980
lid off that

840
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:48,840
I'm putting this into the show
notes as well.

841
00:49:49,380 --> 00:49:54,660
So they supposedly they're in a
they're having and now now when

842
00:49:54,660 --> 00:49:57,210
this story comes out this kind
of reaffirms, which wasn't

843
00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:00,300
wasn't mentioned in the Enquirer
story, but it reaffirms that,

844
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:08,580
that comment that apparently
Obama's or Mrs. Michelle made to

845
00:50:08,610 --> 00:50:10,140
Sarcos his wife.

846
00:50:10,410 --> 00:50:14,970
Ah lamber. Yeah. No.

847
00:50:16,350 --> 00:50:20,340
Well, the French vi vague. Yes.
And rancher guy has

848
00:50:20,340 --> 00:50:24,150
his hot wire the hot singer
wife, Carla Bruni. Carla Bruni,

849
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:28,680
who used to bounce on Jagger
Mick Jagger's squeeze for one

850
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:29,070
around.

851
00:50:29,550 --> 00:50:33,240
Whatever the case was, she, I
guess, felt no obligation to

852
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:36,870
keep a girl secrets and came out
in the media. This was like

853
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:39,660
years ago, obviously, when
Sarkozy was still in office and

854
00:50:39,660 --> 00:50:43,680
said, Mrs. Obama is miserable in
her marriage. She hates every

855
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:44,730
minute. Yes, yes. I

856
00:50:44,730 --> 00:50:47,310
do remember that? Yes. She told
yes.

857
00:50:47,759 --> 00:50:52,319
is about four years. Yeah,
you're right. And it just seems

858
00:50:52,319 --> 00:50:54,959
to be falling into place,
especially with all the glaring

859
00:50:54,959 --> 00:50:58,169
look she gives and all this
other stuff. And if you look at

860
00:50:58,169 --> 00:51:01,829
these pictures here on the Obama
tick comb image, I think you'll

861
00:51:01,829 --> 00:51:04,949
see the three of them sitting
together at a at a basketball

862
00:51:04,949 --> 00:51:09,449
game and you see, tick comb, you
know, here and there. Just seems

863
00:51:09,449 --> 00:51:13,769
to me that this is a lot of
stress on a relationship. Yes,

864
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:17,279
this job. And there are certain
women that are cut out for it.

865
00:51:17,489 --> 00:51:20,399
And certain women like Hillary,
who just put up with the

866
00:51:20,399 --> 00:51:23,549
bullcrap, knowing she's she's
got a lock on getting somewhere

867
00:51:23,549 --> 00:51:28,169
herself and ditch and bill, but
Michelle's got no skin in the

868
00:51:28,169 --> 00:51:30,269
game. She's not going to be
running for president or

869
00:51:30,269 --> 00:51:33,719
anything. She doesn't care.
Yeah. So I think she's I think

870
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,179
something's up here. I think
they may be on to something and

871
00:51:36,179 --> 00:51:41,639
instead somebody in the secret
services is sick of it, I

872
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,790
guess may not want to fly
without the president too often.

873
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:50,100
Yeah, but she wasn't that she
didn't. She took her own gender

874
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:51,600
that same time she stayed behind

875
00:51:51,630 --> 00:51:55,680
you don't want to be flying on
that. On that Cessna Caravan

876
00:51:55,710 --> 00:51:58,500
island hopping in there in
Hawaii with anyone who might

877
00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:01,020
have been responsible for a
birth certificate or some Yeah,

878
00:52:01,620 --> 00:52:05,070
yeah, no, yeah, actually, that's
she probably isn't she probably

879
00:52:05,070 --> 00:52:08,490
I doubt she has read the
economic hitman Confessions of

880
00:52:08,490 --> 00:52:11,670
an economic hitman which
discusses this this problem

881
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:14,850
which just eases way to
assassinate somebody is to put

882
00:52:14,850 --> 00:52:17,820
them in a little plane and then
you know, what is sabotage is

883
00:52:17,820 --> 00:52:21,240
the etymology of kit comb as a
name do you think? Where does

884
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:24,810
this is British? Yeah, but even
if it's British, what is what

885
00:52:24,810 --> 00:52:25,620
does it take comb?

886
00:52:26,010 --> 00:52:29,370
I don't know. Maybe the in those
days the women in England had

887
00:52:29,370 --> 00:52:36,240
very hairy breasts. Wow, really?
You asked me I mean, it's just

888
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:37,200
the best I can come up with.

889
00:52:41,310 --> 00:52:46,890
Maybe we have it in the book of
knowledge. Last Anglo Saxon

890
00:52:46,890 --> 00:52:51,180
origin dialectal variant of a
local national name tid comb

891
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:58,470
from a place from a place called
tid comb. First record in

892
00:52:58,470 --> 00:53:03,510
Wiltshire first recorded in the
Domesday Book as titty comb. Ah,

893
00:53:03,540 --> 00:53:06,810
then Ted Frith. Okay, so it's
from a place all right. Got it?

894
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:09,720
Oh, good. That's him. That's
nothing. Anyway,

895
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:11,910
this is I thought would fit kit
kind of fits in with what you

896
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:13,740
were talking about a little bit
earlier. What

897
00:53:13,740 --> 00:53:17,040
you steered me towards is I have
to defend my my workout. Let me

898
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,950
tell you something, boy, I'm
looking good. I'm looking at

899
00:53:19,950 --> 00:53:23,700
curried I'm going to be 50 this
year, and I feel really good.

900
00:53:24,270 --> 00:53:27,870
Okay, well, I got all my hair.

901
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:32,730
Yeah, well, that's gonna be
you'll be the hair will be alive

902
00:53:32,730 --> 00:53:37,140
when you're dead. See? Okay,
anyway, so that's why I just

903
00:53:37,140 --> 00:53:40,950
wanted to get that in. We'll
keep an eye on this. Just keep

904
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:45,630
an eye on Miss. Michelle's
glaring at Obama. She glares at

905
00:53:45,630 --> 00:53:45,750
him

906
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:52,350
and keep an eye on the Obama
divorce.com website value. That

907
00:53:52,350 --> 00:53:57,630
is going to go up with leaps and
bounds. I guarantee it. Well,

908
00:53:57,630 --> 00:53:59,640
anyway, thank you for your
service. Thank you for your

909
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,000
courage. And in the morning to
you John C. Dvorak.

910
00:54:03,660 --> 00:54:05,790
In the morning, do you Adam
curry in the morning all ships

911
00:54:05,790 --> 00:54:08,010
and sea boots on the ground feet
in the air substance of water

912
00:54:08,010 --> 00:54:10,080
and all the Dames and nights out
there.

913
00:54:10,770 --> 00:54:13,260
In the morning to everyone in
the chat room, no agenda

914
00:54:13,260 --> 00:54:18,840
stream.com no agenda chat.net To
everybody up there and whittling

915
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:23,220
down their $9.2 million value as
an American or as other country

916
00:54:23,220 --> 00:54:25,530
human resource and in the
morning to all of our artists

917
00:54:25,530 --> 00:54:30,060
Thank you comic strip blogger
for the artwork in Episode 582.

918
00:54:30,780 --> 00:54:33,030
Always looking forward to what
we can find it no agenda art

919
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:35,820
generator.com Where we're after
the show we pretty much

920
00:54:35,820 --> 00:54:38,640
immediately choose the artwork
even before we choose the title.

921
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,690
So sometimes we'll look at we'll
be thinking of something in the

922
00:54:42,690 --> 00:54:43,230
show and

923
00:54:43,230 --> 00:54:46,530
barely choose the art with the
title never I don't think we've

924
00:54:46,530 --> 00:54:46,980
ever done it

925
00:54:47,009 --> 00:54:51,599
never. And we end if we end the
title never reflects on the

926
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:57,209
artwork so the artwork is kind
of a title by itself. And today

927
00:54:57,839 --> 00:55:02,339
in the credits were since I'm
trying a new system. Instead of

928
00:55:02,339 --> 00:55:05,549
na shownotes.com We're trying
something new, maybe temporary.

929
00:55:05,549 --> 00:55:10,019
We'll see what we do. It's no
agenda notes.com. So today's

930
00:55:10,049 --> 00:55:15,659
episode shownotes will be at 583
dot no agenda notes.com, which I

931
00:55:15,659 --> 00:55:17,189
also think is easier to
remember, you're

932
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:19,500
going to have a redundantly at
the other site. Yes,

933
00:55:19,530 --> 00:55:26,010
of course, da, da. No agenda
notes.com. And this is the new

934
00:55:26,010 --> 00:55:29,340
of the new system that Dave
Jones is helped me put together.

935
00:55:29,340 --> 00:55:32,670
Here's eight actually, he's done
all the work. I just say it

936
00:55:32,670 --> 00:55:36,240
doesn't work. Make it like this.
I'm pretty good at that.

937
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:36,690
Apparently.

938
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,900
Yeah. That's called the
supervising. Yeah.

939
00:55:40,410 --> 00:55:46,470
Yeah. Supervising. Exactly. So,
you know, of course, we don't

940
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:50,430
have money to pay people like
National Enquirer. We don't get

941
00:55:50,430 --> 00:55:53,880
any money from advertisers that
will help you remove your

942
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:54,690
cellulite.

943
00:55:55,529 --> 00:55:58,619
No, but weak follow all this
stuff it did. It takes time and

944
00:55:58,619 --> 00:56:01,469
effort. So we can follow the
National Enquirer and then

945
00:56:01,469 --> 00:56:04,439
deconstruct what they have to
say and then also add some

946
00:56:04,439 --> 00:56:05,399
analysis. Correct.

947
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,220
And I also watched the entire
testimony of the President's

948
00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:11,430
panel on the NSA. I have a
couple of clips from that. Oh,

949
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:14,820
good. Yeah. And I think a pretty
big a catch, I think I got to

950
00:56:14,820 --> 00:56:17,040
catch out of it. So that's the
kind of stuff we do, you know,

951
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,940
we watch and then it was the
Ukraine panel, with the Victoria

952
00:56:20,940 --> 00:56:23,790
Newlands all that stuff we're
able to do because of the

953
00:56:23,790 --> 00:56:26,610
support of our producers. And we
always love to credit our

954
00:56:26,610 --> 00:56:28,950
executive producers and
Associate Executive producers at

955
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:31,740
the top of the show, because
they're the ones that that

956
00:56:31,740 --> 00:56:34,320
really, you know, bring in the
money just like Hollywood, and

957
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,840
you get the credit. The credits
are in these brand new show

958
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:43,500
notes, as well as accepted
anywhere show notes are valid as

959
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:43,800
such.

960
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,740
But we always have to remember a
$5 subscription is just as

961
00:56:46,740 --> 00:56:47,130
important.

962
00:56:47,790 --> 00:56:49,380
Just as important. Exactly.

963
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,730
Let's take a few of these guys.
We have a curious balance.

964
00:56:53,730 --> 00:56:58,830
today. We have 123456 Executive
Producers and one lone Associate

965
00:56:58,830 --> 00:57:02,550
Executive producer from Norway.
That is interesting. Brett

966
00:57:02,550 --> 00:57:06,750
Mahoney came with $500 in North
Quincy, Massachusetts, and

967
00:57:06,750 --> 00:57:09,300
longtime Boehner not donating to
the show because of my low

968
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:12,540
college income. Now there you
have it, what does it do? That

969
00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:15,180
was an excuse because I'm a
veteran getting paid by the

970
00:57:15,180 --> 00:57:17,970
government to go to college and
most of my money's goes for food

971
00:57:17,970 --> 00:57:18,750
and alcohol.

972
00:57:19,830 --> 00:57:21,450
Not necessarily in that order,

973
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,260
sir, good man. I heard from a
person in North Attleboro,

974
00:57:25,260 --> 00:57:29,670
Massachusetts that donated in
show 582 And I felt I needed to

975
00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:34,140
donate, I felt I needed to
donate, consider this donation

976
00:57:34,140 --> 00:57:37,290
towards towards both my
knighthood towards both my

977
00:57:37,290 --> 00:57:41,040
knighthood and what as the money
rolls in over the next few

978
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,740
months of my last semesters of
college, I will donate to make

979
00:57:43,770 --> 00:57:45,960
both knighthoods complete once a
couple of nights.

980
00:57:46,170 --> 00:57:49,320
Maybe he's doing it for his
girlfriend or wife or some

981
00:57:49,470 --> 00:57:53,610
I'll just drink less alcohol,
makeup, eat less food. Have a

982
00:57:53,610 --> 00:57:57,600
choice morning. In the morning
doll, no agenda listeners in

983
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:58,380
Massachusetts.

984
00:57:59,580 --> 00:58:01,290
In the morning back out to
Brett, thank you very much,

985
00:58:01,290 --> 00:58:04,590
highly appreciated, you will be
executive producer for episode

986
00:58:04,590 --> 00:58:05,910
583.

987
00:58:06,779 --> 00:58:11,399
And so will Nathan Craddock in
Los Angeles, California. Hey,

988
00:58:11,399 --> 00:58:15,419
Phil, it's been a year since I
started to listen to the no

989
00:58:15,419 --> 00:58:17,849
agenda show and thought I should
make a donation commemorate my

990
00:58:17,849 --> 00:58:20,759
vacation and support the best
podcast in the universe. The

991
00:58:20,759 --> 00:58:24,029
global cooling discussion has
been awesome. And then he had

992
00:58:24,029 --> 00:58:26,579
some more stuff. Then he sent me
an email with the finishing the

993
00:58:26,579 --> 00:58:29,969
node off, which was mostly
complaining about he thinks he

994
00:58:29,969 --> 00:58:32,249
got truncated, I couldn't find

995
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,640
it looks like he goes he looks
like he got truncated. Yeah,

996
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:36,000
yeah.

997
00:58:36,029 --> 00:58:38,879
But he got truncated short,
because most people like the one

998
00:58:38,879 --> 00:58:43,709
before was extremely long. So
I'm not absolutely sure what

999
00:58:43,709 --> 00:58:49,619
happened. And since he's in
here, let me let me go get that

1000
00:58:49,619 --> 00:58:53,999
email. Sorry, I have it. Yeah,
it's your I gotta do a quick

1001
00:58:53,999 --> 00:58:57,599
search. Because I didn't think
he would. I thought it got

1002
00:58:57,599 --> 00:58:59,909
truncated because he never
because the donation didn't go

1003
00:58:59,909 --> 00:59:08,339
through but not sure. Go to
hear. Please, truncated. It's

1004
00:59:08,339 --> 00:59:10,769
been a year since he goes on. My
father has always been a sceptic

1005
00:59:10,769 --> 00:59:13,529
about global warming. He worked
for years for the California

1006
00:59:13,529 --> 00:59:16,199
Department of Water Resources
and Laters, a director for water

1007
00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:20,639
and resource conservation for
Butte County. He basically

1008
00:59:20,639 --> 00:59:23,459
thought all weathermen were
dummies, and most climate

1009
00:59:23,459 --> 00:59:26,429
scientists were bought and paid
for by the government or big

1010
00:59:26,429 --> 00:59:30,269
business. He always said we
humans have short term thinking

1011
00:59:30,269 --> 00:59:32,909
he told me how many times about
tree core samples that showed

1012
00:59:32,909 --> 00:59:36,149
California had been through 500
years of drought in the past.

1013
00:59:36,449 --> 00:59:39,869
And lest we forget, but you
samedi has been carved out by

1014
00:59:39,869 --> 00:59:43,889
glaciers talking about climate
change. There's more stories

1015
00:59:43,889 --> 00:59:46,559
from him about how screwed up
our climate data is, but I'll

1016
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:49,079
save that for a future donation.
Thank you for your courage, grit

1017
00:59:49,079 --> 00:59:51,659
and determination. Hope this
helps.

1018
00:59:51,690 --> 00:59:55,050
That's where that's that's very
nice. Say hi to your dad. And

1019
00:59:55,740 --> 01:00:00,570
yeah, go figure. Go figure here.

1020
01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:05,580
Yeah, so the way it works,
Miguel of its Roman in St.

1021
01:00:05,580 --> 01:00:12,630
Petersburg, Russia 355 40 That
is the exact amount every

1022
01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:16,530
Russian citizen spent on Super
on the stupid Winter Olympics

1023
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,410
$355.40 like 50 billion

1024
01:00:19,410 --> 01:00:21,660
euros or something so far.

1025
01:00:22,890 --> 01:00:26,910
We got some big military police
retired ones. Isn't that nice

1026
01:00:26,910 --> 01:00:30,030
from Russia with hate and
bullying? It's legal here yet.

1027
01:00:32,610 --> 01:00:36,690
I got I have a lot of F Russia
stuff to talk about today.

1028
01:00:37,860 --> 01:00:43,770
New fifth Boroson in Tucson
Arizona. 333 33. Heil boys. Oh.

1029
01:00:43,860 --> 01:00:50,010
swordplay arm at all for the
great 2014 Okay, happy

1030
01:00:50,010 --> 01:00:54,720
to hand out some karma sir.
You've got karma not quite sure

1031
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,100
what she means. It's our

1032
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:59,460
plate. Yeah, she means she's
getting a knighted Oh damn.

1033
01:00:59,460 --> 01:01:02,640
Yes, of course. I see. It's
blue. I'm sorry. I missed the I

1034
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,940
missed the the obvious colour
coding on the spreadsheet.

1035
01:01:06,750 --> 01:01:10,890
Sure, random hillbillies here
with rented $33.33 from good old

1036
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:15,030
Elkins West Virginia. And he
says no comment.

1037
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:18,000
Thank you so random hillbilly
always there in a pinch despite

1038
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,440
your water being undrinkable.

1039
01:01:20,580 --> 01:01:24,330
Now this says load is this Joan
enriched loan enrich

1040
01:01:25,470 --> 01:01:28,500
I think it's would that be a
capital I maybe it's

1041
01:01:28,529 --> 01:01:30,479
in Aeon Dion,

1042
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,860
maybe you finally get to say
Aeon. I feel bad. I don't know.

1043
01:01:34,890 --> 01:01:35,880
I don't know if that's why I'm

1044
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,190
rich to send us a note so we
know what's what's going on with

1045
01:01:38,190 --> 01:01:42,960
your name. 333 30 threes in
Brook Park, Ohio. Happy New Year

1046
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:47,070
mofos This probably means that
isn't mail keeping women never

1047
01:01:47,070 --> 01:01:50,910
say that keep hitting people in
the mouth in 2014 to pee as I

1048
01:01:50,910 --> 01:01:53,730
think I should have been a night
since mid last year. I'm also a

1049
01:01:53,730 --> 01:01:56,010
monthly subscriber but I assume
a little more grease to

1050
01:01:56,010 --> 01:02:00,510
stimulate the process won't
hurt. So do we want to night him

1051
01:02:00,510 --> 01:02:00,990
today?

1052
01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:07,080
Well, I don't know.

1053
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,840
The accounting he just made the
statement that he should be

1054
01:02:09,870 --> 01:02:12,780
Yeah, I don't have I mean Eric's
pretty good about this and I

1055
01:02:12,780 --> 01:02:16,350
don't have anything for him on
the list. I'm happy to do it.

1056
01:02:16,380 --> 01:02:19,230
But he needs to talk to the back
office I think

1057
01:02:19,650 --> 01:02:22,710
all right we'll put it off yeah,
we have at least one night and

1058
01:02:22,710 --> 01:02:23,190
he's waited

1059
01:02:23,190 --> 01:02:26,100
he's waited this long. So you
waited this long this is a

1060
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:29,370
reminder people that please do
not be emailing us and saying I

1061
01:02:29,370 --> 01:02:34,590
You didn't nightmare. Now you
have to keep track that same guy

1062
01:02:34,590 --> 01:02:37,230
again. It's that guy. You got to
keep track of your own

1063
01:02:37,230 --> 01:02:40,770
accounting and just let us know.
We can it's easy for us to check

1064
01:02:40,770 --> 01:02:43,380
we you just need to help us out.
And we're happy to do that.

1065
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:50,340
Yeah, we believe you. Thomas so
why he I believe thing is via

1066
01:02:50,370 --> 01:02:54,510
always v always so there might
be a true ball printed via v

1067
01:02:54,510 --> 01:03:01,950
here. We have. Right yeah.
Thomas we're in Nourison Nairs,

1068
01:03:01,950 --> 01:03:04,920
Nins Narrows and I don't know
how to pronounce that either. In

1069
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,440
Norway at 20 bucks, he's no
comment. I didn't see a note

1070
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,960
from him. But if he has one you
can send it in later. We'll read

1071
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,480
it when we get the chance. Those
are our executive producers and

1072
01:03:12,930 --> 01:03:17,250
the one Associate Executive
Producer for show 583 We want to

1073
01:03:17,250 --> 01:03:20,040
thank these people profusely
along with all the others who

1074
01:03:20,370 --> 01:03:24,510
contributed to the show for this
particular show on Thursday, and

1075
01:03:24,510 --> 01:03:29,010
remind you to go to divorce that
org slash na for to continue

1076
01:03:29,070 --> 01:03:30,720
contributing and helping us out

1077
01:03:30,779 --> 01:03:35,009
indeed and reminder under the PR
section in the show notes,

1078
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:37,829
you'll find information about
the first New York New Jersey

1079
01:03:37,829 --> 01:03:42,689
meetup which we spoke about on a
previous episode. And again,

1080
01:03:42,689 --> 01:03:45,629
thanks to producer Tim for
registering and forwarding Obama

1081
01:03:45,629 --> 01:03:49,049
divorce.com to the website for
the best podcast in the

1082
01:03:49,049 --> 01:03:49,679
universe.

1083
01:03:49,710 --> 01:03:53,940
devora.org/and A real credit

1084
01:03:53,940 --> 01:03:57,570
people use them wisely and
please help us propagate the

1085
01:03:57,570 --> 01:03:58,440
formula formula

1086
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,430
is this. We go out. We hit
people in the mouth

1087
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,830
is that a Peppermill? Or what is
that?

1088
01:04:17,370 --> 01:04:21,960
It's the marching soldiers. Oh,
oh, actually, what is it? What

1089
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:22,560
is that I'm doing

1090
01:04:22,590 --> 01:04:24,180
the jackboots. That's what that
is

1091
01:04:24,450 --> 01:04:25,830
the jackboot jackboots.

1092
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:32,940
A crystal geyser, Alpine
Springwater cheap plastic bottle

1093
01:04:34,380 --> 01:04:38,220
okay, they may have this cheap
plastic. When you squeeze it,

1094
01:04:38,220 --> 01:04:39,000
they make a noise.

1095
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:46,650
I I got a lot of feedback on the
universal basic income.

1096
01:04:48,750 --> 01:04:53,370
Also referred to by Nixon and
others as the reverse income tax

1097
01:04:53,370 --> 01:04:53,910
or

1098
01:04:54,060 --> 01:05:00,240
as an experiment in Canada.
Navia men come, men come in Tom

1099
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,410
Yes, there was a famous
experiment in 1974. They took a

1100
01:05:04,410 --> 01:05:09,150
town of I think it's 30,000
people in Canada Navia. And for

1101
01:05:09,180 --> 01:05:15,360
a number of years, gave everyone
a standard Minh come. And it was

1102
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,680
only three years ago that
someone discovered the all the

1103
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:24,180
data from this test, which they
never turned into a report. And,

1104
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,660
of course, immediately
conspiracy theories come about

1105
01:05:27,660 --> 01:05:30,270
and say, Well, why didn't they
do that? Well, who was this

1106
01:05:30,270 --> 01:05:36,870
woman who, in 1902 1004, Evelyn
forgets, which is funny by

1107
01:05:36,870 --> 01:05:40,620
itself, Dr. Evelyn forget,
conducted analysis of the

1108
01:05:40,620 --> 01:05:44,640
programme in 2009. And here's
what she found not only when new

1109
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,180
mothers and teenagers working
substantially less, mothers with

1110
01:05:48,180 --> 01:05:50,370
newborns stop working, so they
want to stay at home longer,

1111
01:05:50,370 --> 01:05:52,830
their babies, teenagers work
less, they weren't under as much

1112
01:05:52,830 --> 01:05:55,560
pressure to support the
families, which resulted in more

1113
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,620
teenagers graduating, and
addition, those who continue to

1114
01:05:58,620 --> 01:06:00,450
work were given more
opportunities to choose what

1115
01:06:00,450 --> 01:06:03,720
type of work they did. She found
that in the period that mean

1116
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,260
comm was administered hospital
visits dropped 8.5% fewer

1117
01:06:07,260 --> 01:06:10,830
incidences of work related
injuries, fewer emergency room

1118
01:06:10,830 --> 01:06:14,550
visits from car accidents and
domestic abuse, a reduction in

1119
01:06:14,550 --> 01:06:17,250
rates of psychiatric
hospitalisation, a number of

1120
01:06:17,250 --> 01:06:22,290
mental illness related
consultations, decreased working

1121
01:06:22,290 --> 01:06:29,970
hours dropped 1% for men 3% for
women. In in all, the report

1122
01:06:29,970 --> 01:06:31,620
says that it was very
successful.

1123
01:06:32,820 --> 01:06:34,140
There was your last name again,

1124
01:06:34,170 --> 01:06:34,980
forget.

1125
01:06:35,550 --> 01:06:38,040
I'm sorry, no, no, what was your
last name? You forgot? What is

1126
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:38,190
it?

1127
01:06:38,460 --> 01:06:42,900
Switzerland? You really, you're
really killing me here. You

1128
01:06:42,900 --> 01:06:45,480
should have put your Photoshop
yourself in with the Three

1129
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,020
Stooges on your newsletter
because you'd fit right in. We

1130
01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:54,570
there's a there's quite a number
of people who think this is a

1131
01:06:54,570 --> 01:06:58,710
very good idea. And I don't
think it's by accident that this

1132
01:06:58,710 --> 01:07:03,450
is being discussed right now,
because of the the resurgence of

1133
01:07:03,450 --> 01:07:06,150
the war on poverty. Was it

1134
01:07:06,210 --> 01:07:08,250
Roosevelt anniversary? Yes. Was

1135
01:07:08,250 --> 01:07:13,470
it Roosevelt? Who, who did this?
40 years ago, Johnson, John was

1136
01:07:13,470 --> 01:07:20,550
a Johnson really? Yeah, the
Austin Stone Ian. Switzerland

1137
01:07:20,550 --> 01:07:23,850
has something similar. Someone
told me Norway had something

1138
01:07:23,850 --> 01:07:25,710
like this, but I couldn't find
any evidence of that. And of

1139
01:07:25,710 --> 01:07:29,880
course, the European Union is
trying on an individual level,

1140
01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:32,910
because they can't do it on a
national level, to get some kind

1141
01:07:32,910 --> 01:07:37,980
of income going. And this has
also been analysed for the

1142
01:07:37,980 --> 01:07:43,170
United States. And the analysis
that I've read, says that we

1143
01:07:43,170 --> 01:07:47,040
could give every man woman child
in the United States, a min

1144
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,470
calm, which means it will be
enough for you to live on

1145
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:55,830
without doing anything. And it
would only cost about 25% of the

1146
01:07:55,860 --> 01:08:00,210
defence budget. Now all of this
is just academic and I had no

1147
01:08:00,210 --> 01:08:07,170
idea. You know, I'm just reading
stuff. I have to say that if you

1148
01:08:07,170 --> 01:08:11,760
really look at all the hassle,
because of course everything

1149
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,840
would go away, John, you have
Social Security, unemployment

1150
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:16,650
benefits,

1151
01:08:17,099 --> 01:08:20,279
bureaucracies will be shut
shuttered all bureaucracies

1152
01:08:20,310 --> 01:08:22,830
which is why I think it'll never
happen, because you know, who

1153
01:08:22,830 --> 01:08:25,350
would want to give up the
bonanza of being a part of the

1154
01:08:25,350 --> 01:08:29,250
welfare system in providing
welfare? That would be I mean,

1155
01:08:29,250 --> 01:08:34,950
that would it would it would
shut down a lot of waste? And I

1156
01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:38,160
don't know, I can't really, I
would love to see some real

1157
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,800
studies on this. Or why don't we
just do it here and then wonder

1158
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,250
why doesn't the state just do
this and see, what happens? Is

1159
01:08:44,250 --> 01:08:44,790
it do you think?

1160
01:08:45,689 --> 01:08:48,779
Maybe what would happen? It
would work change. It would work

1161
01:08:48,779 --> 01:08:52,169
structure things so drastically,
we'd have less policing, we'd

1162
01:08:52,169 --> 01:08:55,529
have less juvenile delinquency,
we'd have less, we'd have better

1163
01:08:55,529 --> 01:08:58,229
educated kids, because then now
they could afford to have their

1164
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:03,839
teeth cleaned. And on and on.
And it would be it wouldn't work

1165
01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:07,859
the system did corporate
corporate system wouldn't really

1166
01:09:07,859 --> 01:09:10,799
function the way we like it to
function, which is to have a

1167
01:09:11,189 --> 01:09:17,999
kind of a crime ridden scare the
public Yeah. More fun the way it

1168
01:09:17,999 --> 01:09:18,119
is.

1169
01:09:18,179 --> 01:09:20,579
You wouldn't be you know what it
would end our show, but at least

1170
01:09:20,579 --> 01:09:25,859
we could eat it within the show.
The show would be over. I

1171
01:09:25,859 --> 01:09:29,669
thought it was I of course, the
main thing is how do you pay for

1172
01:09:29,669 --> 01:09:33,629
it? And this is where there's a
couple of ways one would be the

1173
01:09:33,629 --> 01:09:37,379
your wealth tax idea which
you've harped on for many years.

1174
01:09:37,889 --> 01:09:41,759
But the reason I think the
elites could there is a way for

1175
01:09:41,759 --> 01:09:47,879
them to buy into this by levying
consumption tax and I would just

1176
01:09:47,879 --> 01:09:51,329
say why don't you just make a
carbon tax so then you when you

1177
01:09:51,329 --> 01:09:54,269
know that you can stop the
climate change bullcrap, you

1178
01:09:54,269 --> 01:09:56,519
want that you want the carbon
tax, here you go, here's the

1179
01:09:56,519 --> 01:09:59,969
carbon tax, so you can tax
people, but everyone gets into

1180
01:09:59,999 --> 01:10:02,609
have money to live and then the
elites make out like crazy

1181
01:10:02,609 --> 01:10:05,189
because they're stealing all the
money from the carbon tax and

1182
01:10:05,189 --> 01:10:08,699
the carbon exchange and whatever
but then everybody Kanye maybe

1183
01:10:08,699 --> 01:10:11,519
we'll have there'll be lots of
people doing podcast painting

1184
01:10:11,609 --> 01:10:18,959
making music is this Do I sound
like a crazy commie when I say

1185
01:10:18,959 --> 01:10:19,349
this

1186
01:10:24,810 --> 01:10:30,390
hello okay

1187
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,840
well that was it everybody John
quit the show. Okay, did you

1188
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:41,880
hang up on me? No my computer
Did did you find it eight

1189
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,350
Windows eight finally reboot?

1190
01:10:43,769 --> 01:10:48,149
I don't know it may be but it
was past the hour so what

1191
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:52,379
happened was the message came up
on the big giant the new blue

1192
01:10:52,379 --> 01:10:56,579
screen of death I've never seen
it before. And it's so much

1193
01:10:56,579 --> 01:11:02,669
better font. It says it says
your PC has a problem and then

1194
01:11:02,669 --> 01:11:03,569
it just killed it.

1195
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:08,220
Wow well right now you sound
there's a new sound to your

1196
01:11:08,220 --> 01:11:13,920
signal. Oh, that's not good. No,
it sounds a little bit like huh

1197
01:11:16,170 --> 01:11:18,720
like you got some like your disk
is corrupted or something.

1198
01:11:20,010 --> 01:11:22,860
It may straight now because it
was doing a recovery of a bunch

1199
01:11:22,860 --> 01:11:24,270
of shit is still booting so

1200
01:11:24,300 --> 01:11:27,570
All right. Okay, so I'll restate
the question.

1201
01:11:27,570 --> 01:11:34,170
I don't know where you are. Let
me Yeah. Oh, I see. Okay, here

1202
01:11:34,170 --> 01:11:37,620
it is. There's a message. Your
licence to use this evaluation

1203
01:11:37,620 --> 01:11:40,920
version of Windows has expired.
Yeah, and your PC.

1204
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:44,610
Why can't this happen during the
Vortech Horowitz unplugged why

1205
01:11:44,610 --> 01:11:45,390
on this show?

1206
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:49,560
Your PC will restart in one hour
and continue to restart every

1207
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,500
two hours. Oh up until we get
through the show. easy then.

1208
01:11:52,530 --> 01:11:54,090
Yeah, you sound like crap.

1209
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,060
This guy don't think this the
sound was straightened out.

1210
01:11:57,300 --> 01:11:57,570
Okay,

1211
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,900
well, congratulations. You've
successfully ruined the show.

1212
01:12:02,190 --> 01:12:05,040
And really this show let me
reiterate what you were saying.

1213
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:08,490
Which was that big with this
with this min I don't like that

1214
01:12:08,490 --> 01:12:10,620
word by the way. I'd rather have
reversed income tax or

1215
01:12:10,620 --> 01:12:12,570
guaranteed income or something
like that universal

1216
01:12:12,570 --> 01:12:15,600
basic wage or income seems to be
the the main.

1217
01:12:16,740 --> 01:12:19,260
There'll be a lot more art.
Yeah, art.

1218
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,850
There'd be a lot more Yeah, just
art in general books, music,

1219
01:12:24,390 --> 01:12:27,780
visual art. The world will be a
beautiful place unicorns

1220
01:12:27,780 --> 01:12:32,010
rainbows. It sounds utopian. I
agree. In fact, this is the

1221
01:12:32,010 --> 01:12:34,020
definition of Utopia I believe.

1222
01:12:35,610 --> 01:12:38,790
Oh, that's a drawback.

1223
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,990
Hey, you okay, well, it's your
own fault. So I don't care how

1224
01:12:42,990 --> 01:12:46,740
you sound but once you just call
me call me it's this is not a

1225
01:12:46,740 --> 01:12:50,640
Skype problem my friend. This is
a an audio busing problem. I

1226
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:51,510
know the difference.

1227
01:12:52,350 --> 01:12:54,480
Okay, all right. Take a look
what we got here for our

1228
01:12:54,750 --> 01:12:55,470
something something

1229
01:12:55,470 --> 01:12:57,660
screwy. Anyway

1230
01:13:02,370 --> 01:13:06,000
tal call technical info. Well,
there's just no packet loss or

1231
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:06,690
anything. No, that's

1232
01:13:06,690 --> 01:13:10,020
not it's something with your
audio setup is with your USB

1233
01:13:10,020 --> 01:13:12,630
audio setup. I know what I'm
talking about. Yeah, okay, I

1234
01:13:12,630 --> 01:13:18,720
know. Professional. I am a
professional. Hold on. So why

1235
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,210
don't you call is still probably
still booting. So why don't you

1236
01:13:21,210 --> 01:13:24,060
just call me back immediately
and we'll see what happens.

1237
01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:28,440
Okay, we're back. Yeah, no, I
know. It's the other day I was

1238
01:13:28,440 --> 01:13:32,100
trying to call John to test his
cable modem and then and I keep

1239
01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:35,160
getting rejected. I'm like,
Well, okay, douche whatever, you

1240
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,830
know, I get it. You don't have
time for me. And they're gonna

1241
01:13:37,830 --> 01:13:41,880
email from meanie. He says, hey,
you know the Skype was ringing

1242
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,740
and so as you I had no time for
you.

1243
01:13:45,570 --> 01:13:47,790
She is in the middle of sounds
exactly what

1244
01:13:47,790 --> 01:13:53,130
she said. Yeah, she said I had
no time for that. By the way,

1245
01:13:53,130 --> 01:13:56,730
you're right. The sound went
away. So okay, very good. Good

1246
01:13:56,730 --> 01:14:00,600
job. Good work. Alright, so
universal basic income. Yeah,

1247
01:14:00,630 --> 01:14:05,970
very interesting idea. Got sir
Jean, the Sheriff of Texas. In

1248
01:14:05,970 --> 01:14:08,790
the in the back channel says the
minimum free pay would never

1249
01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:11,670
work in a free society. It only
works in a prison. Happy to

1250
01:14:11,670 --> 01:14:14,940
explain the economics of this on
Saturday. I was an economics

1251
01:14:14,940 --> 01:14:16,170
major for a while.

1252
01:14:16,500 --> 01:14:23,580
Oh, please. I was an economics
major. an economics major so

1253
01:14:23,580 --> 01:14:27,360
white. No offence gene but

1254
01:14:28,350 --> 01:14:31,230
obviously there's some guy in
Switzerland and Miss Macie heard

1255
01:14:31,230 --> 01:14:36,510
him on on NPR Shut up with your
fucking phone. This is annoying

1256
01:14:36,510 --> 01:14:37,020
man.

1257
01:14:38,910 --> 01:14:40,830
And there he goes. Mr.
Tourette's.

1258
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:43,650
Sorry, it is the Tourette's.
What is that

1259
01:14:43,650 --> 01:14:44,160
phone?

1260
01:14:45,570 --> 01:14:48,240
When you I thought it would be
you know, you get Time Warner

1261
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,420
Cable and it's oh yeah, I'll
take the phone from you. And

1262
01:14:51,420 --> 01:14:54,660
they immediately sell your name
and number to everybody in the

1263
01:14:54,660 --> 01:14:59,490
universe Time Warner Cable or a
holes. Okay, so this is an

1264
01:14:59,490 --> 01:15:03,720
article From November 12 2013,
Switzerland's proposal to pay

1265
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:10,080
people for being alive. And the
guy who is proposing this is a

1266
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:14,760
guy named Schmidt. What's his?
What's his first name?

1267
01:15:15,750 --> 01:15:18,660
And by the way, that's very
interesting is kind of bigoted

1268
01:15:18,660 --> 01:15:21,000
wording, paying people to be
alive.

1269
01:15:21,330 --> 01:15:23,250
If I said no, that's the New
York Times. That's the New York

1270
01:15:23,250 --> 01:15:24,030
Times headline.

1271
01:15:24,570 --> 01:15:28,050
That's terrible. Is that the way
it should be presented? Yeah.

1272
01:15:29,010 --> 01:15:30,480
Well, I don't know. I mean, it's

1273
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:35,190
taking responsibility for your
own citizenry. How's that for a

1274
01:15:35,190 --> 01:15:36,210
way of presenting? It

1275
01:15:36,210 --> 01:15:40,920
seems to me that it would it was
it reverse income tax very

1276
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:45,330
interesting. Because if you look
at all of the the, all the

1277
01:15:45,330 --> 01:15:49,110
programmes all the things that
that are split out, and by the

1278
01:15:49,110 --> 01:15:56,100
way, are being skimmed, but you
know, just skimmed. Now the EBT

1279
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:59,430
cards, just everything is being
scammed and scammed and people

1280
01:15:59,430 --> 01:16:03,150
are lying in the stigma. If you
take all it would probably cost

1281
01:16:03,150 --> 01:16:03,840
us less.

1282
01:16:05,340 --> 01:16:06,900
No, there was just no doubt
about it.

1283
01:16:06,930 --> 01:16:10,170
But is that is that is that? Not
that? Is that not the kind of

1284
01:16:10,170 --> 01:16:13,590
the definition of a socialistic
or Marxist system? Or is this?

1285
01:16:14,010 --> 01:16:17,850
Does that not compare? Because
we kind of fringe? Yeah, because

1286
01:16:17,850 --> 01:16:21,630
we're kind of already doing it.
We're just doing it in bits and

1287
01:16:21,630 --> 01:16:23,580
pieces, and it has a lot of
overhead.

1288
01:16:24,540 --> 01:16:26,970
Yeah, the overheads gotta go.
That's the problem. Yeah.

1289
01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:29,610
Interesting. Well, I'm gonna
keep my

1290
01:16:29,610 --> 01:16:31,230
free transportation while you're
at it.

1291
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:35,640
No, I don't think we'd have
that. And that, I think, no, I

1292
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,860
think we should know I think
that should go away. I mean, you

1293
01:16:37,860 --> 01:16:39,510
get your money, and then you
have to pay your own

1294
01:16:39,510 --> 01:16:43,110
transportation. But uh, well let
that be free to why not? That's

1295
01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:46,740
not now you're talking crazy.
Now we're talking commies,

1296
01:16:46,770 --> 01:16:48,120
of course in France.

1297
01:16:48,990 --> 01:16:51,420
commies my case in point? No.

1298
01:16:51,570 --> 01:16:53,760
Well, it's not really free in
France. But but they don't have

1299
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,610
reverse would have vanished. Let
me get a little little travel

1300
01:16:56,610 --> 01:17:00,630
tip my occasional travel tin. So
you go to Venice, and there's

1301
01:17:00,630 --> 01:17:03,990
these you get around Venice on
these. You can get a taxi. But

1302
01:17:03,990 --> 01:17:07,980
most people get on these buses
called aparatos. And they are

1303
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:11,340
just a giant just like a little
fairy Bodega holds about maybe a

1304
01:17:11,340 --> 01:17:13,170
couple 100. I don't know, 100
people, I don't know how many it

1305
01:17:13,170 --> 01:17:16,020
holds. But as big. And it goes
from a bus stop the bus stop,

1306
01:17:16,020 --> 01:17:20,190
there's these bus stops on the
water. And you can buy a day

1307
01:17:20,190 --> 01:17:23,430
pass if you're a tourist or you
can have the little tickets, or

1308
01:17:23,430 --> 01:17:27,690
you can just get on and off the
thing. And you know, nobody ever

1309
01:17:27,690 --> 01:17:30,540
I've never seen anyone check. I
mean, why suppose once in a

1310
01:17:30,540 --> 01:17:33,150
million years, somebody comes on
and checks for tickets. But

1311
01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:36,990
generally speaking, I've never
seen it. Just get on.

1312
01:17:37,860 --> 01:17:40,470
I understand. But when you're
giving people money to live,

1313
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,830
that is the whole point then you
make your choices and let

1314
01:17:43,830 --> 01:17:46,470
someone else put together the
transportation company and then

1315
01:17:46,470 --> 01:17:50,610
you people can buy a ticket.
It's either minimum minimum

1316
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,420
either income a basic wage, and
everything or nothing. You know,

1317
01:17:54,420 --> 01:17:54,750
just it

1318
01:17:54,750 --> 01:17:56,700
benefits everybody to have free
public.

1319
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,410
No, it doesn't. It really
doesn't. I've lived in countries

1320
01:18:01,410 --> 01:18:05,310
where so called free it's crap.
And it's not

1321
01:18:05,340 --> 01:18:10,110
that just because there's not a
min Come Come early say

1322
01:18:10,140 --> 01:18:14,460
I need to move to a mid income
country. That's really got to

1323
01:18:14,460 --> 01:18:14,790
try

1324
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,400
a slightly a slightly obscene
sound to it.

1325
01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:22,110
I like it. I'm kind of Yeah, I'm
kind of I'm kind of into it. But

1326
01:18:22,110 --> 01:18:25,350
Miss Mickey and I are thinking
about maybe going to a European

1327
01:18:25,350 --> 01:18:28,200
country for a month this summer.
Maybe Spain or something?

1328
01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:29,490
Yeah. Spain's Great.

1329
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:34,800
Yeah. If you don't if you don't
mind the the riots.

1330
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,920
They have the highest they have
high speed internet.

1331
01:18:39,180 --> 01:18:40,230
Everywhere in Spain.

1332
01:18:41,430 --> 01:18:43,470
Well, where you'd be probably.
Let's get it.

1333
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,770
Well, we were thinking maybe we
could go to one of the islands

1334
01:18:46,770 --> 01:18:50,880
is actually what we're thinking.
Oh, forget it. Forget what high

1335
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:57,450
speed internet? Yeah. I don't
know. It'd be fun. Something,

1336
01:18:57,480 --> 01:18:58,350
something else. We

1337
01:18:58,350 --> 01:19:00,450
still live it up in Barcelona.

1338
01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:03,000
Maybe we need to get out. We
need to go to I think Europe is

1339
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,700
important for us to go and have
boots on the ground this summer.

1340
01:19:06,420 --> 01:19:09,390
To feel what's going on. Don't
you agree?

1341
01:19:10,110 --> 01:19:12,780
Yeah. You get a different feel
for things. I think it's a good

1342
01:19:12,780 --> 01:19:16,560
idea. Barcelona is cool. Go
there.

1343
01:19:17,310 --> 01:19:24,660
All right. I watched a very long
session with the panel that made

1344
01:19:24,660 --> 01:19:30,780
the 4036 47 recommendations to
the President's the

1345
01:19:30,780 --> 01:19:32,430
one that was the surveillance
panel.

1346
01:19:33,540 --> 01:19:35,880
I don't think it was called
their surveillance panel. No,

1347
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,550
no, because I watched the long
panel too. And it had all the

1348
01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:42,960
same the same. It had Did it
have Richard Clark? Yes. Clark

1349
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:44,010
Sunstein.

1350
01:19:44,250 --> 01:19:49,170
Yes. That's the panel I saw
morale was very long. And it was

1351
01:19:49,230 --> 01:19:52,890
and most of it was about section
215.

1352
01:19:53,250 --> 01:19:55,470
Right. And Sunstein is the
worst. Well, I

1353
01:19:55,470 --> 01:19:58,020
have Yes, I have. I have some
interesting clips that I pulled

1354
01:19:58,020 --> 01:20:01,290
from this. And I think I found
something I'm pretty big, which

1355
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,640
was given away almost near the
end of the two hours, which was

1356
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:09,120
happy because, ya know, because
I watched the whole thing. And

1357
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,390
I'd like to remind everybody,
that we're all tall. Everyone's

1358
01:20:12,390 --> 01:20:16,920
like, oh, it's ever since grant
Greenwell and Snowden and

1359
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:21,300
everyone's Oh, section 215 or
metadata. If you go to section

1360
01:20:21,300 --> 01:20:24,810
two fifteen.org, you will see
that this is a no agenda show

1361
01:20:24,810 --> 01:20:33,540
website created may 28 2011. So
just I'd like to point out that

1362
01:20:33,570 --> 01:20:37,650
your little no agenda show is
all over this stuff. From day

1363
01:20:37,650 --> 01:20:43,230
one. Tweet, so you know, we're
on the ball. And now all of a

1364
01:20:43,230 --> 01:20:46,410
sudden for the past what, ooh,
six months the world knows about

1365
01:20:46,410 --> 01:20:52,920
it. The mica Morel things
Morrell? Who is the the outgoing

1366
01:20:53,220 --> 01:20:58,620
number two in command at the
CIA. These guys well, yes.

1367
01:20:58,890 --> 01:21:02,280
I want to mention, I want what
he had like the most mixed

1368
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:06,840
messages. Yes, he did. He came
on and he said, Well, this is

1369
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:10,560
terrible. These NSA guys are
horrible people. And then he

1370
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,350
went on and said, you know,
they're pretty good guys. And it

1371
01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:15,930
was back and forth. It was like
watching a tennis match with one

1372
01:21:15,930 --> 01:21:19,320
guy playing himself. T. It's not
a very disturbing it's almost

1373
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,480
like he had like somebody
electrodes hooked up. We had to

1374
01:21:21,480 --> 01:21:22,740
change his yes story

1375
01:21:22,769 --> 01:21:26,729
that morale was clearly MK
Ultra. He also he wrote an op

1376
01:21:26,729 --> 01:21:30,989
ed. And this was referred to
several times throughout the

1377
01:21:30,989 --> 01:21:35,279
session, where he said had we
had section 215 metadata,

1378
01:21:35,579 --> 01:21:38,909
storing the 911 would not have
happened. And you know, it was

1379
01:21:38,909 --> 01:21:42,689
like everyone else on the panel
was like, Yeah, even Richard.

1380
01:21:46,859 --> 01:21:49,529
But what's interesting is that
these so called recommendations

1381
01:21:49,529 --> 01:21:51,479
which we have read for you,
we've marked them up for you.

1382
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,239
We've discussed them on the
show. We told you, if it does

1383
01:21:54,239 --> 01:21:59,219
anything, it makes it easier. It
says no slap down of the NSA.

1384
01:21:59,219 --> 01:22:02,909
This is no no penalty. This is
making it easier. And this was

1385
01:22:02,909 --> 01:22:03,929
confirmed, General

1386
01:22:03,930 --> 01:22:09,000
Alexander testified to us that
in oh nine, the NSA,

1387
01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:12,420
this is very funny. By the way.
Feinstein gets really miffed

1388
01:22:12,420 --> 01:22:15,270
here to lay he who was running
running the show,

1389
01:22:15,780 --> 01:22:20,280
did in fact go to the FISA court
and found that it took nine days

1390
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:24,720
not average, to be able to
collect the information that was

1391
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:30,000
necessary. Are you aware of
that? No, ma'am. Well, that's

1392
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:34,590
According to testimony by
General Alexander. We also know

1393
01:22:35,550 --> 01:22:37,680
my time is up. Is that what
you're saying to me?

1394
01:22:40,380 --> 01:22:42,480
She looks at him like my time is
up. Is that what you're saying?

1395
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:45,360
To me? Really? Really? Is what
you're saying? Any My time is

1396
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:45,660
up?

1397
01:22:45,780 --> 01:22:48,120
I saw. This was disgusting.

1398
01:22:48,150 --> 01:22:51,930
Let me finish. I really
appreciate Thank you. Oh, thank

1399
01:22:51,930 --> 01:22:53,940
you. Oh, she's so insincere.

1400
01:22:54,630 --> 01:22:57,000
He can be very strict. Oh,

1401
01:22:57,060 --> 01:22:58,860
this is little tit for tat
there.

1402
01:23:01,620 --> 01:23:07,440
You either this was used after
the fact and the Boston bombing.

1403
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:12,270
But here's the difference. The
Boston they used emergency

1404
01:23:12,270 --> 01:23:12,720
power.

1405
01:23:12,750 --> 01:23:15,030
This is what listen to the point
she's trying to make. She's

1406
01:23:15,030 --> 01:23:19,830
trying to make the point that it
took Alexandria Kaiser,

1407
01:23:19,830 --> 01:23:23,040
Alexander says it took nine days
to get approval from the FISA

1408
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:27,360
court to get into the metadata
that's too long. And then she's

1409
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,270
saying well, but they use
emergency for something after it

1410
01:23:30,270 --> 01:23:33,870
happened at Boston. And then
morale was gonna say something

1411
01:23:33,870 --> 01:23:34,440
fascinating.

1412
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,340
And they were able to get
information quickly. This is

1413
01:23:38,340 --> 01:23:43,470
used to prevent an attack. So
those of us that see it

1414
01:23:43,470 --> 01:23:46,050
important to prevent another
attack tear, I don't need to

1415
01:23:46,050 --> 01:23:49,140
tell you terrorism is up groups
have metastasized.

1416
01:23:50,250 --> 01:23:53,940
John, did you know that
terrorism is up? Groups

1417
01:23:54,660 --> 01:23:57,840
didn't know that that
metastasized? It's a cancer. I

1418
01:23:57,840 --> 01:23:59,670
tell you the GM brain cancer,

1419
01:23:59,700 --> 01:24:02,670
we know they'll come after us if
they can they Oh,

1420
01:24:02,670 --> 01:24:05,610
hold on a second. Right, then we
know they will come after us.

1421
01:24:05,670 --> 01:24:09,630
The boogeyman is out to get you
Feinstein says so

1422
01:24:09,750 --> 01:24:13,620
there's a real litany here of
fact, back so the question

1423
01:24:13,620 --> 01:24:19,170
comes, do you not find value
substantial value in being able

1424
01:24:19,170 --> 01:24:20,670
to prevent this attack?

1425
01:24:21,930 --> 01:24:26,040
So I find substantial value in
any tool that helps us prevent

1426
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:31,860
attacks tool. I believe that to
15 carries the potential to

1427
01:24:31,950 --> 01:24:37,620
prevent attacks and that's why I
think it needs to continue. But

1428
01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:41,940
one of the the important issues
I think, is the question of

1429
01:24:41,970 --> 01:24:49,320
efficacy for us did not really
impact our view on the change in

1430
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:55,290
approach to the programme. We do
not believe that we're going to

1431
01:24:55,290 --> 01:25:00,000
add a substantial burden to the
government by making the change

1432
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,930
changes, we are suggesting fact,
if something can't be done

1433
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,420
quicker than nine days, then
they need to make some changes

1434
01:25:06,420 --> 01:25:10,080
to make that happen. We also
wrote into our report and

1435
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:14,730
emergency provision so that in
in an emergency situation when

1436
01:25:14,730 --> 01:25:17,040
the intelligence community knows
they need to move quickly,

1437
01:25:17,370 --> 01:25:21,720
they'll be able to query the
data without a court order going

1438
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,370
into the court after the fact.

1439
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,220
Right, so this is exactly what
we write in the documentation.

1440
01:25:26,340 --> 01:25:30,840
So essentially, they made it
easier. It's easier. So hey, you

1441
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,180
know, the court after
afterwards, go just go and get

1442
01:25:33,180 --> 01:25:34,680
the warrant later. Don't worry
about it,

1443
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,890
shoot that guy and then go get
some permission.

1444
01:25:38,370 --> 01:25:43,020
Cass Sunstein, I gotta click
this group a cast something

1445
01:25:43,020 --> 01:25:47,730
Professor Sunstein married to
powers the current to the new

1446
01:25:47,940 --> 01:25:51,780
ambassador to the United
Nations, who thank God for all

1447
01:25:51,780 --> 01:25:54,270
the evil he is at least is
losing his hair. I mean, at

1448
01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:56,970
least His looks are going
because I hope the guy suffers

1449
01:25:56,970 --> 01:26:00,660
somehow for being such an
incredible shill and really,

1450
01:26:00,870 --> 01:26:05,520
really just a no good guy. I've
read his his white papers, where

1451
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:10,740
he says he said infiltrate
online forums and chat rooms and

1452
01:26:10,740 --> 01:26:16,320
podcasts and and basically
commit COINTELPRO evil man

1453
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:20,400
Sunstein. But as I was listening
to him, and by the way, he

1454
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:25,380
messes this up in this, he says
something that who catches it?

1455
01:26:25,380 --> 01:26:29,640
I'm not. Can't remember who
catches what he says. But his

1456
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:34,230
speech is real really weird. He
began, it's like he's groaning

1457
01:26:34,230 --> 01:26:40,050
the whole time. Did you catch
this? No, you can. Listen to it.

1458
01:26:40,710 --> 01:26:45,090
Are you aware? Has the NSA ever
done surveillance on members of

1459
01:26:45,090 --> 01:26:48,450
Congress? Or other elected Mary?
What?

1460
01:26:49,140 --> 01:26:50,010
That's Mike Lee.

1461
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:54,240
Yes, Mike Lee. But SAS. Sunstein
is going to answer the question,

1462
01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:55,020
what is net

1463
01:26:55,050 --> 01:26:56,130
net officials?

1464
01:26:57,900 --> 01:27:03,570
We're not aware of any such and
one of the things we learned in

1465
01:27:03,570 --> 01:27:07,110
our review is that there's no
targeting by the NSA of people

1466
01:27:07,110 --> 01:27:10,350
because of their political views
or their religious convictions,

1467
01:27:10,710 --> 01:27:13,740
or their or their political
party. So in terms of

1468
01:27:13,740 --> 01:27:24,630
concretely, some details we
here's why. We may not be

1469
01:27:24,930 --> 01:27:25,500
precise.

1470
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,400
I'm not doing that. By the way.
It's like he has some kind of

1471
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:29,880
Tourette's.

1472
01:27:31,860 --> 01:27:37,740
Some details we may not have.
What is that John?

1473
01:27:38,099 --> 01:27:40,709
Yeah, him that sounds like
you're doing No, that's him.

1474
01:27:41,579 --> 01:27:42,839
It's coming out of his throat.
Okay,

1475
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,630
now just play a part of it. And
don't say anything in terms of

1476
01:27:45,630 --> 01:27:53,070
concretely some details we may
not have watched that.

1477
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:57,180
Now, but now you'll be quiet
because it doesn't stop it keeps

1478
01:27:57,180 --> 01:27:57,630
going.

1479
01:27:58,740 --> 01:28:03,870
May not have precise questions
that every one of which we have

1480
01:28:03,900 --> 01:28:08,310
off the off the top of the mind
answers to but politics,

1481
01:28:08,310 --> 01:28:10,680
religion, political views,
that's not what they're

1482
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:11,280
interested in.

1483
01:28:11,310 --> 01:28:14,100
I think whenever he's lying is
when that happens.

1484
01:28:16,230 --> 01:28:19,800
That is weird, because I watched
him to testify. And I did not

1485
01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:22,440
but I didn't clip it. Yeah,
because I was still watching.

1486
01:28:22,770 --> 01:28:25,590
Right eventually pull some clips
myself, probably for the next

1487
01:28:25,590 --> 01:28:29,700
show. But this is an example of
we did you hear this when you

1488
01:28:29,700 --> 01:28:31,320
were seeing him or only when you
were

1489
01:28:32,220 --> 01:28:37,290
at when I when I saw, I saw this
this piece of testimony. I

1490
01:28:37,290 --> 01:28:44,430
rewound it, because it's on C
span.gov. com, org, net org Fu

1491
01:28:44,820 --> 01:28:47,970
and and then I hit the recorder
and then I played it and I turn

1492
01:28:47,970 --> 01:28:50,400
up the volume because the
kitchen is right next door to

1493
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:54,240
the to my little studio here to
go get something to drink. And

1494
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,310
that's when I heard it and I
wasn't watching the video. I'm

1495
01:28:56,310 --> 01:28:59,970
like, holy crap, but I'm also
sensitive to tics and stuff like

1496
01:28:59,970 --> 01:29:04,410
that because you know, I've
Tourette so I was a must because

1497
01:29:04,410 --> 01:29:04,920
he's lying.

1498
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:09,420
That is very weird, isn't it?
Yeah, cuz I watched him. I

1499
01:29:09,420 --> 01:29:12,390
didn't hear that. But now that
now I'm hearing is as creepy.

1500
01:29:12,540 --> 01:29:16,350
Now when I see him again, I'll
I'll notice it. Did you notice

1501
01:29:16,350 --> 01:29:19,950
that for one thing? He this is
good because he bypassed the

1502
01:29:19,950 --> 01:29:21,480
mike Lee's question. Well, he

1503
01:29:21,480 --> 01:29:23,940
actually Michael actually comes
back and nails him on what he

1504
01:29:23,940 --> 01:29:24,570
says.

1505
01:29:25,139 --> 01:29:28,709
Okay, well, I do have a he
pulled an interesting trick

1506
01:29:28,709 --> 01:29:30,779
here, which is kind of funny,
but go on.

1507
01:29:30,809 --> 01:29:33,449
Let me there's about a minute
here. I'm rewinding a bit so we

1508
01:29:33,449 --> 01:29:37,139
can hear some of that and then
listen to Lee catching him in

1509
01:29:37,139 --> 01:29:37,739
what he said

1510
01:29:39,150 --> 01:29:44,580
may not have precise questions
that everyone which we have off

1511
01:29:44,580 --> 01:29:48,720
the off the top of the mind
answers to but politics,

1512
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,090
religion, political views,
that's not what they're

1513
01:29:51,090 --> 01:29:51,720
interested in.

1514
01:29:51,780 --> 01:29:54,450
Now, notice he says politics,
religion, political views,

1515
01:29:54,450 --> 01:29:57,540
that's not what the NSA is
interested in. Oh, really? I

1516
01:29:57,540 --> 01:30:00,750
thought from the kitchen where
I'm getting my drink. Oh really,

1517
01:30:00,900 --> 01:30:03,960
please, somebody do something.
That's just one small thing. And

1518
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:07,140
this is that little Weasley,
lawyer boy on the right. And he

1519
01:30:07,140 --> 01:30:09,630
of course is thinking like
Lori's like, Oh, hold on a

1520
01:30:09,630 --> 01:30:11,940
second, just so you know, we're
only talking about this

1521
01:30:11,940 --> 01:30:14,160
administration, not about like
know, the Church Committee. And

1522
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,050
of course, you know, the CIA
when they were when they

1523
01:30:16,050 --> 01:30:18,420
basically were really spying on
everybody all the time.

1524
01:30:18,900 --> 01:30:21,270
We're talking about in recent
years, we're not talking about

1525
01:30:21,270 --> 01:30:23,820
back in the 60s and 70s, when
there's a different history

1526
01:30:24,060 --> 01:30:27,420
begins. Because he's a lawyer.
And the question was, if you'll

1527
01:30:27,420 --> 01:30:31,320
call Did you spy on Congress?
And of course, he was happening

1528
01:30:31,350 --> 01:30:35,730
in the 60s and 70s. And oh, yes,
I'm sorry. It stopped after

1529
01:30:35,730 --> 01:30:39,330
that, because we had the church
commission. And yeah, we figured

1530
01:30:39,330 --> 01:30:42,150
it all out. No one went to jail.
Nothing happened. But we stopped

1531
01:30:42,150 --> 01:30:44,730
all that. So just so you know,
we know what happened then. But

1532
01:30:44,730 --> 01:30:45,750
it's not happening now.

1533
01:30:45,780 --> 01:30:47,850
Well, insurance agencies doing
things that got exposed?

1534
01:30:48,660 --> 01:30:52,860
No, no, I mean, in current
years, although I do want to

1535
01:30:53,010 --> 01:30:56,280
clarify Professor Sunstein do
one thing you said about

1536
01:30:56,280 --> 01:31:05,550
religious views. I assume you
would agree that a commitment to

1537
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:11,370
jihad would not qualify as a
religious view and and indeed,

1538
01:31:11,460 --> 01:31:17,910
would be a political position
and embrace of violence that

1539
01:31:17,910 --> 01:31:22,860
merits very close scrutiny to
prevent that violence from me.

1540
01:31:23,130 --> 01:31:26,220
If this is very interesting,
what happened here? And I think

1541
01:31:26,220 --> 01:31:29,820
that this will this at some
point in the future, maybe 10

1542
01:31:29,820 --> 01:31:33,540
years from now this will be
discussed, because what Sunstein

1543
01:31:33,570 --> 01:31:38,820
clearly said is the NSA is not
out to find out about your

1544
01:31:38,820 --> 01:31:43,410
political views, your religious
views. And what Lee is saying is

1545
01:31:43,410 --> 01:31:48,570
Hold on a second crazy jihadist,
which is a radical Islam. It's a

1546
01:31:48,570 --> 01:31:53,400
religion. It's a religious
belief. He's saying, well, that

1547
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:58,320
doesn't count. Oh, okay. I'm
sorry. Only the crazy religious

1548
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,440
belief like is radical Islam
doesn't count. Every other

1549
01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:05,580
crazy. One is okay. This is very
critical. What's happening here

1550
01:32:05,580 --> 01:32:06,750
and no one's pointing this out.

1551
01:32:06,750 --> 01:32:09,570
There's reason to believe the
person is threatening to the

1552
01:32:09,570 --> 01:32:13,470
United States that would not
fall within protected religious

1553
01:32:13,590 --> 01:32:14,190
belief.

1554
01:32:14,310 --> 01:32:18,510
Okay. So you freedom of
religion, unless we think you're

1555
01:32:18,540 --> 01:32:19,110
crazy,

1556
01:32:19,140 --> 01:32:21,780
right? This would probably fall
on the political to it. That's

1557
01:32:21,780 --> 01:32:25,410
why I think occupy was targeted.
Yes. But the little interesting

1558
01:32:25,410 --> 01:32:30,090
gotcha that Sunstein pulled here
was, instead of directly

1559
01:32:30,090 --> 01:32:34,410
answering the question, he said,
and I just wrote it down. There

1560
01:32:34,410 --> 01:32:39,180
is no targeting of these of
political of Congress or

1561
01:32:39,180 --> 01:32:42,780
anybody. No targeting by the
NSA. Oh, yeah. Oh,

1562
01:32:42,780 --> 01:32:45,750
yeah. No, it's all of that is so
subtle. And that's why the other

1563
01:32:45,750 --> 01:32:48,600
guy jumped in just to cover
their ass once again.

1564
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:51,750
Right. So the end? Yeah, the NSA
is not the guys who have been

1565
01:32:51,780 --> 01:32:55,440
already busted for tax evasion
and other things using NSA data.

1566
01:32:55,770 --> 01:32:58,650
What the question should have
been? Has anybody is anybody

1567
01:32:58,740 --> 01:33:04,650
being targeted using NSA data is
exactly by any agency

1568
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:06,870
whatsoever? That's the question.

1569
01:33:06,990 --> 01:33:10,830
Well, so that's the big gotcha
that I'm going to get to, that

1570
01:33:10,830 --> 01:33:14,670
this whole thing was was weird,
because they had votes going on

1571
01:33:14,670 --> 01:33:18,030
at the same time. And it was, it
was like a tag team wrestling

1572
01:33:18,030 --> 01:33:19,140
match. And all of a sudden,

1573
01:33:19,170 --> 01:33:22,410
right. That's when Feinstein
came in at the late in the game,

1574
01:33:22,410 --> 01:33:25,320
right? She didn't hear anything
up there. She just came in there

1575
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:29,730
to boost the MSA Pontifex boost
herself. And but by doing the

1576
01:33:29,730 --> 01:33:33,660
old sales trick, don't you?
Adam, don't you agree that

1577
01:33:33,660 --> 01:33:36,600
Dianne Feinstein came at the
last minute, Adam, don't you

1578
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:41,490
agree that she can't? Don't you
agree that don't you agree this

1579
01:33:41,490 --> 01:33:43,320
and don't you agree that well,
and

1580
01:33:43,350 --> 01:33:46,650
Al Franken did it? It took it
one step higher, all of a

1581
01:33:46,650 --> 01:33:51,180
sudden, he was in charge of the
meeting. And he essentially

1582
01:33:51,210 --> 01:33:54,840
says, I'm so happy to see that
your recommendations are the

1583
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:58,380
same that I have in my
transparency bill on the

1584
01:33:58,530 --> 01:34:04,860
subcommittee that I chair, and
then he he goes into this weird.

1585
01:34:05,910 --> 01:34:09,120
It was it was very strange,
where he's basically promoting.

1586
01:34:09,150 --> 01:34:11,580
And I think it was smart,
actually. Because if anyone's

1587
01:34:11,580 --> 01:34:14,250
going to no one picks this stuff
up, except us, but if anyone

1588
01:34:14,250 --> 01:34:17,940
were to pick up a soundbite, or
he his PR people could reuse it

1589
01:34:17,940 --> 01:34:23,280
and say, he's basically having
the NSA panel, confirm that Al

1590
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:26,550
Franken is a smart guy. It's
something like that. And here's

1591
01:34:26,550 --> 01:34:27,030
a bit of it.

1592
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:31,260
I'm gonna just continue to drill
down. Oh, yeah.

1593
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,570
It's funny because he asked a
question, and then he was going

1594
01:34:33,570 --> 01:34:36,090
to move on. But then someone put
a piece of paper down. And then

1595
01:34:36,090 --> 01:34:39,330
he says, I'm going to continue
to drill down on this. I think

1596
01:34:39,330 --> 01:34:44,130
he's a teleprompter reader. He
may not actually have a brain is

1597
01:34:44,130 --> 01:34:46,950
what I'm thinking that was very
weird to see someone prompt him

1598
01:34:46,950 --> 01:34:47,700
to do something

1599
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:51,510
on the first recommendation,
because it's different from what

1600
01:34:51,510 --> 01:34:54,300
the administration has been
saying. And it's saying your

1601
01:34:54,300 --> 01:34:56,880
opponent calls for the
government to say how many

1602
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:00,000
people have had their
information collected my bill

1603
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,210
For the calls for the government
to say how many people have had

1604
01:35:03,210 --> 01:35:06,960
their information collected yet
last November, representatives

1605
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:11,460
from the Office of the Director
of National Intelligence and the

1606
01:35:11,460 --> 01:35:16,800
NSA came before the Subcommittee
on privacy technology and law

1607
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:17,700
which I chair and

1608
01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:22,410
disguise a lit. I don't know,
John, he's irritating me. He's

1609
01:35:22,410 --> 01:35:24,930
saying I'm so glad you agree
with me. But you know, no one

1610
01:35:24,930 --> 01:35:26,580
else agrees me I don't know
justify

1611
01:35:26,610 --> 01:35:30,570
weird it would be, quote,
difficult, if not impossible for

1612
01:35:30,570 --> 01:35:32,820
the government to say how many
people have had their

1613
01:35:33,210 --> 01:35:35,880
information collected under
these authorities? Now listen to

1614
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:40,290
his question. Mr. Swire. Did the
administration communicate this

1615
01:35:40,290 --> 01:35:45,600
concern to you? If so, why did
you find it unpersuasive?

1616
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:50,340
He knows the answer. Did they
communicate this to you? If so,

1617
01:35:50,340 --> 01:35:52,320
why did you find it
unpersuasive? He knows the

1618
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,960
answer already there. What
script is this?

1619
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,170
Fast? No, but we know that these
are scripted. Because we've

1620
01:35:58,170 --> 01:36:01,470
already seen when somebody goes
off script or doesn't read the

1621
01:36:01,470 --> 01:36:01,980
script,

1622
01:36:02,220 --> 01:36:04,080
I'm going to move forward a
little bit in this thing to

1623
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:07,740
Frank and basically his his
message is protect Silicon

1624
01:36:07,740 --> 01:36:09,960
Valley editor. Let me just move
forward.

1625
01:36:09,990 --> 01:36:12,360
Some teachers, administrators, a
small number of customers, for

1626
01:36:12,630 --> 01:36:15,390
people who's who's being certain
security problems when it comes

1627
01:36:15,390 --> 01:36:18,900
to the two people or one person

1628
01:36:18,990 --> 01:36:23,460
so well, here we go. I'm out of
my time. And as you can see

1629
01:36:23,460 --> 01:36:27,360
where I have another vote, so we
will recess for five minutes for

1630
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,600
another vote for 1/4. The first
is commercial for we do I just

1631
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:36,900
want to Mr. Sunstein just
reiterate this thing about the

1632
01:36:36,930 --> 01:36:43,200
the the the company's their
ability to disclose because it

1633
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:49,590
is hurting them. And we have a
an analytics firm Forrester says

1634
01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:52,500
the American cloud computing
industry stands to lose up to

1635
01:36:52,500 --> 01:36:58,200
$180 billion by 2016 as a result
of increased distrust of their

1636
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,630
services particularly abroad so

1637
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:11,070
screw them yeah, you but yeah, a
bunch of you know, they give

1638
01:37:11,070 --> 01:37:18,330
your data to everybody. Screw
them, screw them who don't give

1639
01:37:18,330 --> 01:37:19,500
a crap about them.

1640
01:37:19,710 --> 01:37:22,380
All right. I don't understand
how anybody overseas in

1641
01:37:22,380 --> 01:37:26,010
particular, let alone Americans
would use the service. Well,

1642
01:37:26,010 --> 01:37:26,130
they're

1643
01:37:26,130 --> 01:37:30,420
not this is this is the Hello,
this is the this is the now this

1644
01:37:30,420 --> 01:37:31,950
is why Silicon Valley is long

1645
01:37:31,950 --> 01:37:36,450
on Seagate drives. All right, I
have to choose not this is not a

1646
01:37:36,450 --> 01:37:38,850
recommendation, you can consult
your advisor.

1647
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:43,440
I have two more. One is the big
payoff which just blew me away

1648
01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:47,490
and it took me it takes us back
decades to what's really going

1649
01:37:47,490 --> 01:37:50,190
on and it was I think it was a
mistake. It was not supposed to

1650
01:37:50,190 --> 01:37:54,240
come out. Everyone was tired.
But first we have Senator

1651
01:37:54,240 --> 01:38:02,370
Sessions and sessions this man
needs to be voted out of office.

1652
01:38:02,730 --> 01:38:06,030
You need to vote this guy out.
Where's where what state is he

1653
01:38:06,030 --> 01:38:07,590
from John sessions? What is

1654
01:38:07,770 --> 01:38:11,190
the southern states in the
Arkansas or Alabama? Yeah,

1655
01:38:11,190 --> 01:38:13,260
Alabama Elgin CELTA book and
I'll let you do

1656
01:38:13,260 --> 01:38:20,250
that. So he is talking with
stone, who is the constitutional

1657
01:38:20,250 --> 01:38:23,820
law professor from Chicago. I
like stone by the way, I'm

1658
01:38:23,820 --> 01:38:27,300
changing my my stance on him. I
think he's I think he actually

1659
01:38:27,300 --> 01:38:28,380
is a pretty good guy.

1660
01:38:28,890 --> 01:38:30,270
I didn't know you had a stance
on him.

1661
01:38:30,300 --> 01:38:33,450
I thought the whole panel are a
bunch of Yahoo's and jag offs.

1662
01:38:34,050 --> 01:38:37,440
But the stone guy I don't know,
I kind of like now, when you

1663
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:44,280
hear how the lack of knowledge
of something as basic as cloud

1664
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:48,060
versus local, where data is
stored and what that really

1665
01:38:48,060 --> 01:38:51,240
should mean, constitutionally or
even technically speaking

1666
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:52,230
sessions,

1667
01:38:52,230 --> 01:38:55,560
Jeff Sessions from Alabama,
douche session, when

1668
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:58,410
you're comparing this to the
metadata you're talking about

1669
01:38:58,410 --> 01:39:03,180
this is stuck out millions of
Americans records swept up, nose

1670
01:39:03,690 --> 01:39:08,310
swept up notion this somewhere
in a computer.

1671
01:39:09,060 --> 01:39:13,650
No subpoena has ever been
allowed to reach that breadth

1672
01:39:14,010 --> 01:39:16,800
that happens under the metadata
programme. So I think the

1673
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:19,170
analogy is simply a flawed
analysis and looking

1674
01:39:19,170 --> 01:39:24,240
at every record that's there,
they have to have some sort of

1675
01:39:25,470 --> 01:39:28,800
in this year that they suck is
valid.

1676
01:39:30,450 --> 01:39:35,910
What is session say? Is this the
sessions? The guy an idiot? He

1677
01:39:35,910 --> 01:39:36,630
does this a couple of

1678
01:39:36,630 --> 01:39:39,930
times. It goes why is he
defending them? Because almost

1679
01:39:39,930 --> 01:39:42,570
to be queried? No, he's
defending it.

1680
01:39:42,690 --> 01:39:45,720
This is why you have to vote him
out and listen to his this is

1681
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:46,590
like a series just to

1682
01:39:46,590 --> 01:39:49,170
be questioning them not
defending them. I don't know.

1683
01:39:49,170 --> 01:39:50,760
Why didn't he go sit at the
table.

1684
01:39:50,790 --> 01:39:53,970
He's going to defend it
throughout this entire thing.

1685
01:39:54,060 --> 01:39:57,870
He's fighting it and but the way
he's doing it is like he's going

1686
01:39:57,900 --> 01:40:00,870
he is Isn't it?

1687
01:40:01,350 --> 01:40:05,940
No subpoena has ever been
allowed to reach that breadth

1688
01:40:06,300 --> 01:40:09,090
that happens under the metadata
programme. So I think the

1689
01:40:09,090 --> 01:40:11,490
analogy is simply a flawed
analysis and looking

1690
01:40:11,490 --> 01:40:16,530
at every record, that's there,
they have to have some sort of

1691
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:25,440
indicia that they suck is valid,
valuable for an investigation.

1692
01:40:25,470 --> 01:40:28,530
I agree. I agree with a
distinguished gentleman from

1693
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:30,630
Alabama, whatever he said,

1694
01:40:32,010 --> 01:40:33,900
even inquire into it,

1695
01:40:33,990 --> 01:40:37,440
yes, but you were drawing an
analogy to the subpoena. And

1696
01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:40,500
what I'm saying is that the
subpoena traditionally has to be

1697
01:40:40,500 --> 01:40:45,000
relatively narrowly drawn to
particular information directly

1698
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,120
relevant to a particular
inquiry. And the metadata

1699
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:53,790
programme does, in fact, elicit
vast amounts of data, far beyond

1700
01:40:53,790 --> 01:40:56,400
anything that any subpoena in
the history of the world has

1701
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:56,820
been allowed.

1702
01:40:57,270 --> 01:41:00,180
I love stuff. This is stone,
he's saying, hey, you know, this

1703
01:41:00,180 --> 01:41:04,410
is far beyond anything in the
history of the world, in the

1704
01:41:04,410 --> 01:41:07,680
world of subpoenas, so he's a
he's kind of a good guy. Now

1705
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:11,460
listen to sessions. He's going
to give us the technology, the

1706
01:41:11,460 --> 01:41:15,600
technological analysis of why a
stone clearly is full of crap.

1707
01:41:15,660 --> 01:41:20,730
Okay, let's get this straight.
So the matter data comes in. And

1708
01:41:21,030 --> 01:41:25,080
is, the only difference is it
was in the computers of the

1709
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:30,900
phone company. But for easier
access is put in the computer of

1710
01:41:30,900 --> 01:41:31,980
the government's

1711
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:36,690
Oh, okay, let's get this
straight. I hate to do a

1712
01:41:36,690 --> 01:41:40,080
southern accent there. But this
guy is really. So there's no, it

1713
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:43,650
was just for easier access.
Because you know, when no one

1714
01:41:43,650 --> 01:41:48,180
else ever heard of an API or
ODBC connection, or just for

1715
01:41:48,180 --> 01:41:51,060
ease, we just copied it all over
to the government system for

1716
01:41:51,060 --> 01:41:54,300
easier access. Clearly, that's
what what could go wrong

1717
01:41:54,330 --> 01:41:59,160
somewhere. And the inquiries
only go to those records, just

1718
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:02,400
like they would have gone to the
phone company. There. The only

1719
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:08,250
difference is for convenience
and computer. Access it was

1720
01:42:09,060 --> 01:42:13,050
government can get it quicker,
because some of these issues are

1721
01:42:13,050 --> 01:42:14,070
life and death.

1722
01:42:14,340 --> 01:42:20,460
Okay, so here's your Senator,
hello, Alabama. Vote this guy

1723
01:42:20,490 --> 01:42:26,490
out. His reasoning is, it's okay
to put private, individual

1724
01:42:26,490 --> 01:42:30,750
citizen data on government
computer systems to be analysed

1725
01:42:30,750 --> 01:42:34,410
because it's life and death. We
have to get to these records

1726
01:42:34,410 --> 01:42:37,350
quicker. does this guy think
it's like on a floppy disk or

1727
01:42:37,350 --> 01:42:38,040
something?

1728
01:42:39,780 --> 01:42:42,750
I don't know what this guy's
thinking as the Supreme Court,

1729
01:42:42,810 --> 01:42:45,990
five justices, at least to the
Supreme Court have explicitly

1730
01:42:45,990 --> 01:42:51,240
recognised a year ago. There are
limits that technology now has

1731
01:42:52,440 --> 01:42:56,760
called into play about how far
this doctrine that if you if you

1732
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:59,460
disclose information to somebody
else, that you have no

1733
01:42:59,460 --> 01:43:02,520
reasonable expectation of
privacy in the information. So

1734
01:43:02,550 --> 01:43:05,700
in the Jones case, five
justices, including Justice

1735
01:43:05,700 --> 01:43:09,390
Alito, in a very important
opinion, suggested that that

1736
01:43:09,390 --> 01:43:13,170
basic principle that as you say
was around for a long time has

1737
01:43:13,170 --> 01:43:15,240
to be called into question when
you get into a world where

1738
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:16,740
technology allows that to

1739
01:43:16,740 --> 01:43:20,520
this day is going to go defend
it again, just because they

1740
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:24,450
called in the question No,
holding. No, it's been so held.

1741
01:43:24,480 --> 01:43:27,660
He's He's basically no holding
has been so held. In other

1742
01:43:27,660 --> 01:43:32,610
words, that's not been proven,
or I guess there's no no Supreme

1743
01:43:32,610 --> 01:43:34,320
Court statement,

1744
01:43:34,349 --> 01:43:36,359
though. And it did nothing we
say has anything to do with the

1745
01:43:36,359 --> 01:43:37,139
Constitution? Oh,

1746
01:43:37,140 --> 01:43:39,480
that I don't see any difference
really? No doubt you're

1747
01:43:39,510 --> 01:43:42,360
accessing the same records,
whether you get them from the

1748
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:48,030
phone company or whether in bulk
in the Balkan COSCO. assessable

1749
01:43:48,030 --> 01:43:48,570
account.

1750
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:52,530
It gets sad, do you hear
something? You come see, Steve.

1751
01:43:53,430 --> 01:43:57,810
And he's going to give away what
the whole idea is, as we

1752
01:43:57,810 --> 01:43:59,670
predicted on the show sons sons
think

1753
01:44:00,990 --> 01:44:03,300
this is helpful, I think the
direction you're going in is

1754
01:44:03,300 --> 01:44:06,690
actually quite compatible with
our recommendation. So our

1755
01:44:06,690 --> 01:44:10,440
recommendation is not that we
eliminate the to 15 programme.

1756
01:44:11,100 --> 01:44:14,250
We have a programme where the
government doesn't have all this

1757
01:44:14,250 --> 01:44:17,400
stuff, which the government
doesn't in the cases you worked

1758
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:20,880
on as a prosecutor or district
attorney, it doesn't just have

1759
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:24,390
it gets access to it on a
certain show. And that's exactly

1760
01:44:24,390 --> 01:44:27,870
the model that we're suggesting.
And what we suggest is that that

1761
01:44:27,870 --> 01:44:31,440
model won't compromise any
national security goal. Because

1762
01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:34,080
in cases where time is of the
essence human life is on the

1763
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:38,190
line, you can get get out of
like that, because in cases

1764
01:44:38,190 --> 01:44:40,650
where it isn't on the line, you
go through the standard legal

1765
01:44:40,650 --> 01:44:44,850
process. So the analogy from
tradition to which you rightly

1766
01:44:44,850 --> 01:44:47,460
refer that is actually what
we're building on in our

1767
01:44:47,460 --> 01:44:48,360
recommendation.

1768
01:44:48,990 --> 01:44:49,980
My time is up.

1769
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:52,680
My time is up. I don't care I
was just here to just tell you

1770
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,530
that I know anything about hard
drives. i These are These clips

1771
01:44:55,530 --> 01:44:56,610
are a little long graduate

1772
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:00,810
sessions. Full Name Yeah. Which
I don't think it'd be voted out

1773
01:45:00,810 --> 01:45:04,170
just for having just the name
alone. Other monarchs, yeah.

1774
01:45:04,590 --> 01:45:07,860
Jefferson Beauregard Sessions
the third.

1775
01:45:08,670 --> 01:45:14,850
Beauregard Jefferson floppy disk
Beauregard. Actually, I made a

1776
01:45:14,850 --> 01:45:15,240
mistake. It

1777
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,460
was something I wanted to
mention in this hearing that

1778
01:45:17,490 --> 01:45:22,140
cropped up once and I can I'm
gonna have to go read listen to

1779
01:45:22,140 --> 01:45:25,410
this and get a clip of it. But
one of the senators actually

1780
01:45:25,410 --> 01:45:28,080
brought up and then they was
basically shouted down by

1781
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:33,060
everybody. What good is all this
bowl crap, when it didn't stop

1782
01:45:33,060 --> 01:45:37,200
the Boston bomber? It didn't
stop the guy in the Navy Yard

1783
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:40,950
guy. It didn't. All this, all
these things have happened with

1784
01:45:40,950 --> 01:45:43,800
all these programmes in place.
And he couldn't stop the simple

1785
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:46,860
things that you know, and the
shoes was well, you know, the

1786
01:45:46,860 --> 01:45:48,000
Boston bombers he

1787
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,490
didn't make no he didn't make a
call. No, the

1788
01:45:50,490 --> 01:45:53,370
Boston bombers that guy followed
up with saying, Look, that guy

1789
01:45:53,370 --> 01:45:55,680
was in these guys were in
contact with the Russians,

1790
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:58,440
aren't we following and then
they brought it they won. They

1791
01:45:58,440 --> 01:45:59,820
really got to was

1792
01:46:00,060 --> 01:46:03,780
wish I could remember I said
Mike I know. I know exact says I

1793
01:46:03,780 --> 01:46:04,320
know exactly.

1794
01:46:04,440 --> 01:46:07,350
The shooting that hospital
shooting by the doctor has San

1795
01:46:07,350 --> 01:46:10,650
or whatever his name was. Yeah,
the guy was in constant contact

1796
01:46:10,650 --> 01:46:14,400
with the aulaqi guy
communicating with him and

1797
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:18,090
nobody did, sir. Did nobody
picked up on this. What good is

1798
01:46:18,090 --> 01:46:18,870
this programme?

1799
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:22,110
And, and I couldn't clip it
because nobody answered no. And

1800
01:46:22,110 --> 01:46:24,660
the whole question was five
minutes and there was no answer.

1801
01:46:25,140 --> 01:46:28,830
And in the Boston bombing,
Hello, do you not hear me?

1802
01:46:29,250 --> 01:46:32,940
Hello? Hello. Hello. I thought
he couldn't hear me. Hello,

1803
01:46:32,940 --> 01:46:33,960
John. Do you hear me?

1804
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,390
It's been an hour. Hello?

1805
01:46:37,590 --> 01:46:41,460
Hello. All right. I don't know
what's going on. Hold on.

1806
01:46:43,380 --> 01:46:50,850
To essentially on the Boston
bombing, Morel said they never

1807
01:46:50,850 --> 01:46:54,300
called. And then the senator who
was asking the question, and I

1808
01:46:54,300 --> 01:46:57,930
think it might have been cruise
actually who I helped me it was

1809
01:46:57,930 --> 01:47:00,780
cruise. And I gotta tell you, I
was impressed with cruises

1810
01:47:00,780 --> 01:47:04,890
performance. And I don't know
much I looked up cruise in the

1811
01:47:04,890 --> 01:47:09,210
book of knowledge. It's just no
slouch. I mean, if you believe

1812
01:47:09,210 --> 01:47:12,750
what everyone says, Oh, that
Nidhi it from Texas. That crazy

1813
01:47:12,750 --> 01:47:15,690
flop right? I agree with you.
This guy. He was Solicitor

1814
01:47:15,690 --> 01:47:16,980
General. Um, he I

1815
01:47:16,980 --> 01:47:20,130
just do not believe he is
presentable as a presidential

1816
01:47:20,130 --> 01:47:23,070
candidate because he's got a
weird look about him.

1817
01:47:23,340 --> 01:47:26,760
Well, he's, well, that's racist,
because of course, he's, uh,

1818
01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:30,930
he's Hispanic. So the weird look
about him just saying that would

1819
01:47:30,930 --> 01:47:35,610
be could be deemed racist. Okay.
So, um, but, but this is part of

1820
01:47:35,610 --> 01:47:39,780
the thing. So he's born in
Canada, a Canadian Calgary. But

1821
01:47:39,780 --> 01:47:43,530
then essentially grew up, he's,
his dad is spending his dad

1822
01:47:43,530 --> 01:47:47,850
like, he's people went through
hell to work in for 50 cents a

1823
01:47:47,850 --> 01:47:51,690
week. You know, it's a real,
tear jerking story. And he went

1824
01:47:51,690 --> 01:47:58,470
through. He became, he went to
Princeton, calm Laude, Harvard

1825
01:47:58,470 --> 01:48:03,060
Law School, was the in fact, he
was so good on the debate team

1826
01:48:03,060 --> 01:48:05,700
at Princeton, they named a
debate team prize after him.

1827
01:48:05,700 --> 01:48:10,710
This guy is no slouch. No, I
agree. But he gets he gets a

1828
01:48:10,710 --> 01:48:13,260
real bad rap. And he had, he was
asking some very good questions

1829
01:48:13,260 --> 01:48:17,460
like that. But of course, he got
no answers. And he was also just

1830
01:48:17,460 --> 01:48:19,680
kind of sitting in and then he's
like, Alright, time for me to go

1831
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:23,850
vote. So the final blow up blow
up clip from Clark. But first

1832
01:48:23,850 --> 01:48:28,950
Grassley. And I think this is an
important clip. Because once

1833
01:48:28,950 --> 01:48:32,400
again, this is stone, the
constitutional lawyer from

1834
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:36,690
Chicago, who essentially blows
the lid off the importance of

1835
01:48:36,690 --> 01:48:42,000
metadata. So what we know about
metadata is, you know, you can

1836
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:44,700
find out what number called what
number and for how long?

1837
01:48:44,849 --> 01:48:48,389
Well, you remember that the
beginning of the whole hearing,

1838
01:48:48,629 --> 01:48:51,449
that's x, the CIA guy, the
second in command guy, that

1839
01:48:51,449 --> 01:48:55,139
robot morale. He essentially
said that when he was the first

1840
01:48:55,139 --> 01:48:57,839
guy, they asked anything to one
of them and he says, oh,

1841
01:48:57,839 --> 01:49:01,019
metadata is everything. You can
get everything from metadata.

1842
01:49:01,019 --> 01:49:04,079
It's not just some numbers. It's
like you can do it. You got to

1843
01:49:04,109 --> 01:49:05,669
do everything is connected to
it.

1844
01:49:05,700 --> 01:49:09,840
Well, here stone, really
speaking in plain English, which

1845
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:13,320
I think probably was a mistake.
But no one watches this, but ASO

1846
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:13,920
doesn't matter. But

1847
01:49:13,950 --> 01:49:17,430
let me read a lead in one of the
changes that your report

1848
01:49:17,670 --> 01:49:22,140
recommends concerning the
telephony metadata programme is

1849
01:49:22,140 --> 01:49:25,860
that a private third party your
party's all the metadata instead

1850
01:49:25,860 --> 01:49:30,270
of the NSA. But we've seen many
ins recent instances where

1851
01:49:30,270 --> 01:49:34,020
companies like Target and Neiman
Marcus have been unable to

1852
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:37,530
guess where Grassley doesn't
shop. He doesn't shop at Neiman

1853
01:49:37,530 --> 01:49:40,440
Marcus, because it's not in
Marcus protect private

1854
01:49:40,440 --> 01:49:43,950
data. My constituents would be
very concerned about privacy

1855
01:49:43,950 --> 01:49:47,550
issues. So any one of you, but
hopefully not all of you because

1856
01:49:47,550 --> 01:49:50,910
I want to ask one more question.
What was the group's assessment

1857
01:49:51,150 --> 01:49:54,960
of the privacy risks associated
with your recommendation that

1858
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:58,560
the metadata be stirred, stored
instead of in hands? Sure. And

1859
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:02,310
did you speak to the telephone
companies to explore whether

1860
01:50:02,370 --> 01:50:04,470
they are willing or able to hold
them at a date.

1861
01:50:04,650 --> 01:50:07,140
So maybe you're talking about
the same bid here, because this

1862
01:50:07,170 --> 01:50:10,260
it wasn't morale. But this is
stone, and he's going to tell us

1863
01:50:10,290 --> 01:50:13,620
just what you can do with this.
It's crazy when he explains it.

1864
01:50:14,070 --> 01:50:17,550
We did speak with the telephone
companies about that. And they

1865
01:50:17,580 --> 01:50:21,960
obviously would rather not hold
that data. Our judgement about

1866
01:50:21,990 --> 01:50:26,160
the government holding the data
is that the primary danger of

1867
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:30,210
the 215 telephony metadata
programme is not if it is used

1868
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:34,470
only in the way in which it's
used as authorised, but that it

1869
01:50:34,470 --> 01:50:37,920
leaves sitting out there a huge
amount of information, personal

1870
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:42,690
information about Americans that
could could be abused in awful

1871
01:50:42,690 --> 01:50:47,730
ways. And the question is how to
avoid that potential abuse. And

1872
01:50:47,730 --> 01:50:50,790
one of the ways we decided it
makes sense to avoid that is to

1873
01:50:50,790 --> 01:50:53,100
take it out of the hands of
government, the conservative the

1874
01:50:53,100 --> 01:50:55,350
Fourth Amendment, the
conservative our constitutional

1875
01:50:55,350 --> 01:50:59,760
history, is that government can
do far more harm if it abuses

1876
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:03,510
information in its possession
than private entities can. And

1877
01:51:03,510 --> 01:51:06,360
therefore, our judgement was
that the government should not

1878
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:09,690
have possession of this
information. Because if it does,

1879
01:51:09,690 --> 01:51:12,270
there's always the possibility
of someone coming along down the

1880
01:51:12,270 --> 01:51:16,050
road, seeing this as a great
opportunity to get political

1881
01:51:16,050 --> 01:51:19,620
dirt on on individuals, on their
activities on their

1882
01:51:19,620 --> 01:51:23,040
organisations, their
associations, and that that's a

1883
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,950
danger that we want to avoid. On
the other hand, we do believe

1884
01:51:25,950 --> 01:51:28,950
that that data is useful. And
the idea was to find a way that

1885
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:32,160
would enable the government to
have access to the data, but but

1886
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:35,130
minimise the risk that it could
be abused in that way. And our

1887
01:51:35,130 --> 01:51:38,100
judgement was that keeping it in
private hands would still pose

1888
01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:41,700
privacy risks. But the privacy
risks would be a very different

1889
01:51:41,700 --> 01:51:44,220
order. And they would be much
less in the sense of the kind of

1890
01:51:44,220 --> 01:51:47,190
abuse that historically we're
most concerned about with the

1891
01:51:47,190 --> 01:51:47,490
government.

1892
01:51:47,550 --> 01:51:51,210
What could possibly go wrong?
Put it in private hands, nothing

1893
01:51:51,210 --> 01:51:54,000
could go wrong, no abuse could
ever take place there. That

1894
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:57,540
could not happen. All right.
Here's the kicker. This is the

1895
01:51:57,540 --> 01:52:00,750
one that I don't think you saw,
because you probably bailed. It

1896
01:52:00,750 --> 01:52:03,750
was right at the end. And I was
so close myself. This is Clark,

1897
01:52:03,750 --> 01:52:07,560
who had been very quiet. Richard
Clark, who is what's his he has

1898
01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:10,200
a big consultancy, and he's
basically says,

1899
01:52:11,220 --> 01:52:13,440
What are you gonna make out
whatever the case,

1900
01:52:13,950 --> 01:52:18,870
and he blew the lid off this and
all of a sudden, I'm like, what

1901
01:52:18,990 --> 01:52:24,420
section 215? Is, is
kindergarten, ladies and

1902
01:52:24,420 --> 01:52:28,650
gentlemen, metadata.
Kindergarten, this is this is

1903
01:52:28,650 --> 01:52:29,700
kindergarten, section

1904
01:52:29,700 --> 01:52:33,990
seven or two in Section 215. And
these are both sections about

1905
01:52:33,990 --> 01:52:36,390
which there's been a lot of
public debate discussion, but

1906
01:52:36,390 --> 01:52:39,600
the review group also recommends
greater government disclosure

1907
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,210
about these and other
surveillance authorities that

1908
01:52:42,210 --> 01:52:44,640
possesses but the report
appropriately and

1909
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:47,790
understandably, does not itself
disclose any additional

1910
01:52:48,180 --> 01:52:50,940
programmes. What review, if any,
did the group make of

1911
01:52:50,940 --> 01:52:54,570
undisclosed programmes? Or could
you at least comment about

1912
01:52:54,570 --> 01:52:56,880
whether lessons learned from
such review is, in fact

1913
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:57,600
reflected in the

1914
01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:00,180
report? Okay, so let's just
understand what the answer is

1915
01:53:00,180 --> 01:53:03,180
going to be in the next 30
seconds. The question is, did

1916
01:53:03,180 --> 01:53:07,170
you only look at these two
programmes? The 712 or

1917
01:53:07,170 --> 01:53:12,990
710 710 12? Two section? Oh,
two, seven, or the 700?

1918
01:53:12,990 --> 01:53:17,670
Something? Yeah. And now, seven,
section 215 to 15. Did you only

1919
01:53:17,670 --> 01:53:20,130
look at these two, or were there
other things that of course, you

1920
01:53:20,130 --> 01:53:23,100
know, you can you couldn't
disclose that you also looked at

1921
01:53:23,100 --> 01:53:28,230
other information gathering
systems. And Clark's answer was

1922
01:53:28,260 --> 01:53:29,400
astounding.

1923
01:53:30,030 --> 01:53:32,430
Well, I think there's a great
deal of metadata collected by

1924
01:53:32,430 --> 01:53:35,820
the national security letter
programme. And we do speak to

1925
01:53:35,820 --> 01:53:38,730
that in the recommendations.
There's also a great deal of

1926
01:53:39,330 --> 01:53:43,080
communications related
information collected under the

1927
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:47,880
executive order one, two triple
three. public attention is

1928
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:53,280
focused on 215, but 215 produces
a small percentage of the

1929
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:54,750
overall data that's collected.

1930
01:53:57,150 --> 01:54:02,400
Okay, executive order one, two
triple three, executive order by

1931
01:54:02,430 --> 01:54:10,680
Ronald Reagan. Wow. Executive
Order 12333 section 2.3

1932
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:14,370
collection of information.
agencies within the intelligence

1933
01:54:14,370 --> 01:54:17,550
community are authorised to
collect, retain or disseminate

1934
01:54:17,550 --> 01:54:20,760
information concerning United
States persons, in accordance

1935
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:24,660
with procedures established by
the head of the agency concerned

1936
01:54:24,750 --> 01:54:27,600
and approved by the Attorney
General, consistent with

1937
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:33,570
authorities provided by part one
of this order. Hello. Basically,

1938
01:54:33,630 --> 01:54:36,810
there's an executive order,
stemming from Ronald Reagan's

1939
01:54:36,810 --> 01:54:40,740
time that says you can go and
collect anything you want as

1940
01:54:40,740 --> 01:54:44,670
long as the head of the agency
approves it. Those procedures,

1941
01:54:44,670 --> 01:54:47,070
supplement collection, retention
and dissemination of the

1942
01:54:47,070 --> 01:54:50,460
following types of information,
information that is publicly

1943
01:54:50,460 --> 01:54:53,580
available or collected with the
consent of the person concerned.

1944
01:54:53,700 --> 01:54:58,950
Oh, hello, Facebook, Twitter,
Google. It's right there.

1945
01:54:59,190 --> 01:55:02,040
Yeah, and it In the terms of
service, you have given consent,

1946
01:55:02,070 --> 01:55:05,070
you're given consent. And it may
be interesting to note that it's

1947
01:55:05,070 --> 01:55:07,590
possible that when you gave
consent to Facebook, you may

1948
01:55:07,590 --> 01:55:09,120
have been given blanket consent

1949
01:55:09,180 --> 01:55:12,780
or most definitely outside of
Facebook information.

1950
01:55:13,020 --> 01:55:15,930
When you sign up for Facebook,
you may have been, you may have

1951
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:19,860
implicitly given and I think I
think a judge would say this

1952
01:55:20,310 --> 01:55:23,430
implicitly given away
everything, all your secrets,

1953
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:28,440
according to this executive
order, as long as it is publicly

1954
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:32,790
available or has been collected
with the consent of the person

1955
01:55:32,790 --> 01:55:36,330
concerned. Of course, if you're
giving it it's being collected

1956
01:55:36,330 --> 01:55:40,890
with the consent of the person
concerned, be information

1957
01:55:40,890 --> 01:55:42,990
constituting foreign
intelligence or

1958
01:55:42,990 --> 01:55:46,320
counterintelligence including
such information concerning

1959
01:55:46,470 --> 01:55:50,760
corporations or other commercial
organisations. There's your

1960
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:54,270
spying collection within the
United States of foreign

1961
01:55:54,270 --> 01:55:56,850
intelligence not otherwise
obtainable shall be undertaken

1962
01:55:56,850 --> 01:56:01,770
by the FBI. And we know that the
FBI walks around the offices of

1963
01:56:01,770 --> 01:56:06,150
Facebook. See information
obtained in the course of lawful

1964
01:56:06,150 --> 01:56:07,770
foreign intelligence
counterintelligence,

1965
01:56:07,860 --> 01:56:10,170
intelligence, narcotics, or
intelligence, terrorism

1966
01:56:10,260 --> 01:56:14,190
investigation. information
needed to protect the safety of

1967
01:56:14,190 --> 01:56:17,010
any persons or organisations,
including those who are Target's

1968
01:56:17,010 --> 01:56:20,520
victims or hostages. information
needed to protect foreign

1969
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:24,600
intelligence, this thing this
is, and this is what Clark is

1970
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:29,550
referring to. This executive
order essentially says you can

1971
01:56:30,090 --> 01:56:35,160
limit anything you want as long
as the head of the agency and

1972
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:36,900
the Attorney General approve it.

1973
01:56:37,770 --> 01:56:40,770
So here's the here's the follow
up follow up question that you

1974
01:56:40,830 --> 01:56:43,590
didn't see the end of this, but
you're gonna tell me after I

1975
01:56:43,980 --> 01:56:46,650
give you the follow up question,
you're gonna tell me yes, that's

1976
01:56:46,650 --> 01:56:52,440
exactly what they asked. Okay.
And this would be Feinstein. She

1977
01:56:52,470 --> 01:56:54,420
she was already showing she
should be at the table, and it

1978
01:56:54,420 --> 01:57:03,360
should be directed to her. So
because the 702 And what 215 are

1979
01:57:03,420 --> 01:57:07,560
just as tip of the iceberg, the
real action is in the 12, triple

1980
01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:11,520
three. That means that all this
has been going on since Reagan,

1981
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:16,890
thus 911 should have been
prevented. Why wasn't it?

1982
01:57:20,550 --> 01:57:24,120
It's funny, John, but no one
asked that question.

1983
01:57:24,570 --> 01:57:27,390
Oh, ah, that's the first
question that comes to mind.

1984
01:57:29,130 --> 01:57:33,360
This is an Richard Clarke, of
course, he has based his entire

1985
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:41,610
career on this executive order.
And there's some collection

1986
01:57:41,610 --> 01:57:47,850
techniques, what can and cannot
be done. And it's, it has the

1987
01:57:47,850 --> 01:57:51,540
same wording. Agencies are not
authorised to use such

1988
01:57:51,540 --> 01:57:54,240
techniques as electronic
surveillance unconsented

1989
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:56,280
physical search, mail
surveillance, physical

1990
01:57:56,280 --> 01:58:03,000
surveillance or monitoring,
monitoring devices, unless they

1991
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:05,340
are in accordance with
procedures established by the

1992
01:58:05,340 --> 01:58:07,650
head of the agency concerned and
approved by the Attorney

1993
01:58:07,650 --> 01:58:13,680
General. There you go. So,
essentially, they're saying you

1994
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:17,040
can't do it unless the head of
the agency says yes. And the

1995
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:18,510
Attorney General says yes.

1996
01:58:19,140 --> 01:58:23,760
Which means two guys, two guys
with the key CIA, and CIA and

1997
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:26,580
holder. So you got two guys
holding the keys to the to the

1998
01:58:26,610 --> 01:58:30,150
Brennan, Brennan and holder, and
it doesn't say here, but

1999
01:58:30,150 --> 01:58:32,460
essentially, those two guys can
also kill you with a drone,

2000
01:58:32,460 --> 01:58:35,910
because they're the ones that
are doing it. Yeah. And it says

2001
01:58:35,910 --> 01:58:40,650
everywhere, CIA is not allowed
to search personal property of

2002
01:58:40,650 --> 01:58:43,260
non United States, persons
inside the United States or the

2003
01:58:43,260 --> 01:58:45,420
United States, persons inside
the United States. That's when

2004
01:58:45,420 --> 01:58:49,590
the FBI takes over, which is
make sense. That's what the FBI

2005
01:58:49,590 --> 01:58:53,280
is for. The FBI does all of that
internally, and they are

2006
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:56,190
subservient, where they're
supposed to be subservient to

2007
01:58:56,190 --> 01:59:00,030
the CIA, which kind of explains
the six week cycle. Because

2008
01:59:00,030 --> 01:59:03,300
these guys have to show the boss
all the time. That yeah, we're

2009
01:59:03,300 --> 01:59:06,600
doing good boss. We don't good.
We got some terrorist here. Look

2010
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:07,170
at terrorists.

2011
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:11,550
Well, we got the cycle coming up
on us. Today's the 16th where we

2012
01:59:11,550 --> 01:59:16,200
are two weeks away. So jumping
from that depressing little

2013
01:59:16,230 --> 01:59:21,570
presentation. We have Gates and
his book. And by the way, what

2014
01:59:21,570 --> 01:59:22,440
happened to him?

2015
01:59:22,770 --> 01:59:26,940
Well, as you recall, he he fell
down the stairs and fractured

2016
01:59:27,060 --> 01:59:32,370
his neck. Okay. Well, that was
that is the story.

2017
01:59:32,730 --> 01:59:35,610
So he's there with this weird
thing around him. It's not a

2018
01:59:35,610 --> 01:59:39,270
normal neck brace. It's a huge
giant thing. Like one of those

2019
01:59:39,270 --> 01:59:42,090
things actually showing up on TV
to plug his book. It's

2020
01:59:42,090 --> 01:59:45,510
one of those things you put on a
dog so he can't bite himself.

2021
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:48,330
Well, one of those fronts Yes,
it

2022
01:59:48,330 --> 01:59:51,030
gets it occasionally does try to
bite himself and it's weird to

2023
01:59:51,030 --> 01:59:57,180
see. So here's a little I have
two clips he showed up on on the

2024
01:59:57,180 --> 02:00:02,280
News Hour, and a knife Want to
just play this clip first clip,

2025
02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:05,760
which is pulls verbal stunt to
point out a verbal stunt that we

2026
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:09,210
should all be listening for. And
again, I'm watching it on

2027
02:00:09,210 --> 02:00:11,940
television. I didn't catch it,
then this is really a problem.

2028
02:00:12,150 --> 02:00:15,990
But soon as I pulled the clip
and started listening to it just

2029
02:00:17,670 --> 02:00:22,890
just sound only I so obvious
what he's what he did here. But

2030
02:00:23,610 --> 02:00:24,690
this is interesting,

2031
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:28,650
brought over the National
Security Agency's surveillance

2032
02:00:28,650 --> 02:00:33,150
practices, especially since the
Edward Snowden revelations. Do

2033
02:00:33,150 --> 02:00:37,440
you think that the NSA in many
of its programmes and practices

2034
02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:38,700
has gone too far?

2035
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:44,850
The question is, whether NSA
developed capabilities and

2036
02:00:44,850 --> 02:00:49,020
applied those capabilities that
went beyond the guidelines or

2037
02:00:49,020 --> 02:00:55,140
the left and right curbs, if you
will, that the President and the

2038
02:00:55,140 --> 02:00:58,620
Congress expected and were
briefed on?

2039
02:00:59,190 --> 02:01:01,680
Yeah, that's that is I think
we've probably discussed this,

2040
02:01:01,830 --> 02:01:03,930
this trick before. It's a very
good one.

2041
02:01:04,830 --> 02:01:06,450
You just asked me a question.

2042
02:01:06,930 --> 02:01:08,880
Did you eat the cookies?

2043
02:01:09,930 --> 02:01:13,920
The question is whether or not I
like ice cream.

2044
02:01:16,140 --> 02:01:19,950
Yeah, that's how you do it that
that is the hallmark of a

2045
02:01:19,950 --> 02:01:21,360
professional ladies and
gentlemen.

2046
02:01:23,250 --> 02:01:26,250
Now, there's a couple of things
about this whole report. One was

2047
02:01:26,250 --> 02:01:30,060
the timing of the answer and the
response. He was not on a

2048
02:01:30,060 --> 02:01:33,240
satellite link or this was
highly edited, which I suspect

2049
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:37,410
it was because he would come in
way too quick. You know, you

2050
02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:40,530
watch enough of this stuff. You
know, the timing, I cut a lot of

2051
02:01:40,530 --> 02:01:44,160
these I cut a lot of the sound
missing, you know, the dead air

2052
02:01:44,160 --> 02:01:47,640
out of these clips. There was no
dead air at all it was he

2053
02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:48,720
actually came in too

2054
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:50,490
quick. He was in the studio.

2055
02:01:51,120 --> 02:01:53,880
He was either seated seated in
the studio, which means this was

2056
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:57,690
a fraud possible because he
could have been seated right

2057
02:01:57,690 --> 02:02:00,000
across from her because they do
have guests sitting they sit

2058
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:03,420
right there. He could have done
that. But no, but it was

2059
02:02:03,420 --> 02:02:07,860
actually so tight. Even if it
was in the studio. It was too

2060
02:02:07,860 --> 02:02:10,500
tight. It was almost like it was
clipped together and there's

2061
02:02:10,500 --> 02:02:14,790
also they went back and forth
between him and Judy and his

2062
02:02:15,150 --> 02:02:19,620
blink rate. They would put the
camera on her for 510 seconds

2063
02:02:19,620 --> 02:02:22,860
she would not blink. They will
put the camera on him for five

2064
02:02:22,860 --> 02:02:25,590
to 10 seconds at least 100
blinks

2065
02:02:25,620 --> 02:02:29,520
ah nice another giveaway another
telltale sign of

2066
02:02:30,000 --> 02:02:34,170
many triple and quadruple blinks
which we've been doing lately it

2067
02:02:34,170 --> 02:02:38,670
very much Nixonian. So he was
blinking like a madman I noticed

2068
02:02:38,670 --> 02:02:42,060
this is one good reason to see
the video. But and then they cut

2069
02:02:42,060 --> 02:02:45,030
back to her no blinks, same
period of time back to him

2070
02:02:45,030 --> 02:02:46,890
blink, blink, blink, blink,
blink blink like a madman,

2071
02:02:46,890 --> 02:02:51,210
right. So he was staging in some
way or full of crap or whatever.

2072
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:56,070
And so here's the part two of
the clip where he goes on about

2073
02:02:56,910 --> 02:03:01,050
she's he slams snowed in which I
suppose he had to do. And then

2074
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:04,470
she asked him an interesting
question, which he weasels out

2075
02:03:04,470 --> 02:03:08,700
of and, and there was mixed
analysis of this, whether it was

2076
02:03:08,700 --> 02:03:13,620
a pro Hillary or anti Hillary
book, and it in the law after I

2077
02:03:14,430 --> 02:03:17,460
listened to all the nests, it
was definitely a Hillary hit job

2078
02:03:17,460 --> 02:03:20,550
fronts on on Biden and some
other things which we already

2079
02:03:20,550 --> 02:03:21,420
determined. But anyway,

2080
02:03:21,810 --> 02:03:24,360
that's why I think that the
White House review and the

2081
02:03:24,360 --> 02:03:27,360
congressional review are so
important. And if the programme

2082
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:31,110
did go beyond those guidelines
did go beyond those limits, to

2083
02:03:31,110 --> 02:03:34,830
get it back within those limits.
And if in fact, there were

2084
02:03:34,830 --> 02:03:39,510
people who knowingly went beyond
what the President had approved,

2085
02:03:40,020 --> 02:03:42,120
that, that they be held
accountable,

2086
02:03:42,150 --> 02:03:45,810
how much damage do you think
these revelations have done? And

2087
02:03:45,810 --> 02:03:47,910
do you think Snowden is a
traitor?

2088
02:03:47,940 --> 02:03:51,240
By the way? I'm just listening
to that. That was an edit John.

2089
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:55,260
So I'm thinking that this was
produced and cut down and that I

2090
02:03:55,260 --> 02:03:59,490
could hear. I could hear a very
specific audio edit there.

2091
02:04:01,050 --> 02:04:02,940
Alright, that confirms what I
was thinking. Right.

2092
02:04:02,970 --> 02:04:04,890
Okay, let me just roll that back
just a little bit, and then I'll

2093
02:04:04,890 --> 02:04:07,080
shut up and listen to it. You
can hear it very clearly.

2094
02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:09,900
lations have done a little
further

2095
02:04:11,640 --> 02:04:13,290
than that they be held

2096
02:04:13,290 --> 02:04:16,650
accountable. How much damage do
you think these revelations have

2097
02:04:16,650 --> 02:04:20,790
done? And do you think Snowden
is a traitor or a hero?

2098
02:04:20,970 --> 02:04:24,360
I think that the revelations
have done a lot of damage. They

2099
02:04:25,020 --> 02:04:29,130
sounds like they have the
potential to do a lot more. I

2100
02:04:29,130 --> 02:04:33,810
think he's a traitor. We, you
know, we've built we've spent 40

2101
02:04:33,810 --> 02:04:37,260
years building institutions of
oversight for intelligence since

2102
02:04:37,260 --> 02:04:41,310
the mid 1970s. In the Congress,
in the executive branch and in

2103
02:04:41,310 --> 02:04:47,130
the judiciary, there are
multiple avenues to for people

2104
02:04:47,130 --> 02:04:50,370
who believe that the rules are
being broken or that the law is

2105
02:04:50,370 --> 02:04:55,530
being broken to pursue in order
to bring those problems to

2106
02:04:55,530 --> 02:05:00,570
authorities who can evaluate
whether or not things The

2107
02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:03,660
somebody who's breaking the law
in the intelligence community.

2108
02:05:03,690 --> 02:05:04,260
Yeah,

2109
02:05:04,350 --> 02:05:07,830
exactly. You owe that to William
Binney and all these other guys

2110
02:05:07,830 --> 02:05:11,640
who tried to go through channels
and they got in ended up ruining

2111
02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:12,900
their lives. Yeah.

2112
02:05:13,470 --> 02:05:17,940
Or as we've pointed out the so
called whistleblower pass that

2113
02:05:17,940 --> 02:05:21,810
the President only that he had
signed into law, but were not

2114
02:05:21,810 --> 02:05:28,710
enacted until nine months after
Snowden. The so called Snowden

2115
02:05:28,710 --> 02:05:33,960
leaks then it was not available.
It was it was not enacted yet

2116
02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:38,790
these these paths. Yeah, yes. i
By the way, I just wanted to

2117
02:05:38,940 --> 02:05:44,490
just a quick call back to the
the CIA and the FBI collecting

2118
02:05:44,490 --> 02:05:47,220
all of your information get to
the clip. Yeah, that's alright.

2119
02:05:47,250 --> 02:05:48,180
That's all there was. Yeah.

2120
02:05:49,410 --> 02:05:50,520
Was the other part.

2121
02:05:51,059 --> 02:05:54,869
That's all there was, bro. Bro.
Brah. No, bro.

2122
02:05:54,900 --> 02:05:57,030
Well, let me just put the other
part out. Jimmy, just say it

2123
02:05:57,030 --> 02:06:02,550
swing finish that section. She
asks him that. She asked him she

2124
02:06:02,550 --> 02:06:06,270
says Patrick Moynihan once said
that anyone who is still that

2125
02:06:06,270 --> 02:06:09,240
worked for an administration and
writes a tell all book during

2126
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:12,930
the administration is a is a low
life. How do you respond to

2127
02:06:12,930 --> 02:06:16,050
that? Oh, and when he says it
was mostly I was mostly critical

2128
02:06:16,050 --> 02:06:19,530
of myself. And he goes on and
on. And he makes some excuse.

2129
02:06:19,530 --> 02:06:23,700
And then he then he says that.
And he named about eight books

2130
02:06:23,700 --> 02:06:27,210
coming out from all these other
guys that are all men. And Obama

2131
02:06:27,210 --> 02:06:30,510
hides it before the end of this
thing. This is going to be very

2132
02:06:30,510 --> 02:06:31,620
interesting to watch

2133
02:06:31,650 --> 02:06:34,920
what's what's annoying to me is
that these people have not even

2134
02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:37,740
read the book. So I now have a
copy of the book. And I'm going

2135
02:06:37,740 --> 02:06:38,310
to read it.

2136
02:06:38,730 --> 02:06:44,190
I read one one guy ran into read
the book. And well, he had some

2137
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:49,200
just thought. I mean, I can't
summarise for him. I haven't

2138
02:06:49,200 --> 02:06:53,430
read the book either. But I was
listening to Face The Nation, or

2139
02:06:53,430 --> 02:06:54,900
what's the show with chip on it?

2140
02:06:55,380 --> 02:06:57,240
Yeah, talk to the press,

2141
02:06:57,870 --> 02:07:00,750
whatever it's called. And one
guy, the whole group, they're

2142
02:07:00,750 --> 02:07:04,860
all pontificating about one
thing or another. And they one

2143
02:07:04,860 --> 02:07:08,430
guy had read the book, some guy
from Bloomberg. And he says, you

2144
02:07:08,430 --> 02:07:10,110
know, you're kind of right.
You're kind of wrong about some

2145
02:07:10,110 --> 02:07:12,600
of this stuff. And what was the
point of talking about if you

2146
02:07:12,600 --> 02:07:15,420
haven't read the damn book?
Anyway, go on?

2147
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:17,640
Well, there's a couple things.
First, I just wanted to, just

2148
02:07:17,640 --> 02:07:20,490
because I had it written down
about the CIA and the FBI

2149
02:07:20,490 --> 02:07:22,920
collect the under Executive
Order collecting all of your

2150
02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:27,480
publicly available information.
If you've ever wondered, why

2151
02:07:27,480 --> 02:07:31,980
Google continuously and I think,
I'm pretty sure Facebook does

2152
02:07:31,980 --> 02:07:35,190
this, and Yahoo probably does
that as well. They're always

2153
02:07:35,190 --> 02:07:38,760
saying, yeah, why don't you give
us your cell phone number? So we

2154
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:43,710
can like, you know, have double
verification and text you so you

2155
02:07:43,710 --> 02:07:47,250
know, if you ever lose your
login, these people are

2156
02:07:47,250 --> 02:07:52,320
connecting your phone record to
their to their database? Yeah,

2157
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:56,340
you've voluntarily voluntarily
giving it up. Exactly. So

2158
02:07:56,340 --> 02:07:57,420
something else? Well,

2159
02:07:57,480 --> 02:08:00,930
Your Honour, if he had
voluntarily given it up.

2160
02:08:03,180 --> 02:08:06,300
Something else happened, which
is interesting is Daniel

2161
02:08:06,300 --> 02:08:11,430
Ellsberg from the Pentagon
Papers, made a big deal and went

2162
02:08:11,430 --> 02:08:15,660
on all the shows and New York
Times article about them

2163
02:08:15,660 --> 02:08:19,020
welcoming Edward Snowden to the
Board of Directors of the

2164
02:08:19,020 --> 02:08:23,220
freedom of the press foundation.
Now, I want to just remind

2165
02:08:23,220 --> 02:08:28,110
everybody what the freedom of
the press foundation is. This is

2166
02:08:28,710 --> 02:08:33,720
co founded by Laura Poitras
grand Greenwell, Daniel

2167
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:41,490
Ellsberg, and what's the actor?
The keys Oh, John Cusack accused

2168
02:08:41,490 --> 02:08:45,150
that Barlow's in there
somewhere. And I want to remind

2169
02:08:45,150 --> 02:08:52,050
you that this is funded 100% by
Mother Jones. All right, they

2170
02:08:52,050 --> 02:08:57,330
say it on their website that
they are they only live by the

2171
02:08:57,330 --> 02:09:02,610
good graces of and it's actually
it's not that's doing business

2172
02:09:02,610 --> 02:09:06,810
as Mother Jones Hold on a
second. What is the what is the

2173
02:09:06,810 --> 02:09:12,090
name of the organisation? Hold
on, we press freedom Foundation

2174
02:09:12,090 --> 02:09:13,830
says right there on their
website, which is just

2175
02:09:13,830 --> 02:09:17,220
hilarious. Down at the bottom.
The freedom of press foundation

2176
02:09:17,220 --> 02:09:20,280
is made possible by the fiscal
sponsorship of the foundation

2177
02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:25,740
for national progress doing
business as Mother Jones okay.

2178
02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:32,370
So Mother Jones is not yet they
get a lot of money $9 million a

2179
02:09:32,370 --> 02:09:38,610
year. And this is not
necessarily a neutral

2180
02:09:38,610 --> 02:09:43,200
organisation in my book. But
that just needs to be pointed

2181
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:49,140
out. And what this is all good
for I don't know. I don't know.

2182
02:09:49,140 --> 02:09:52,320
I don't understand. Did you did
you do you have any thoughts on

2183
02:09:52,320 --> 02:09:52,800
this job?

2184
02:09:53,309 --> 02:09:56,579
No, not at all. I think we beat
it to death already that there's

2185
02:09:56,579 --> 02:09:58,559
something's up with those guys
and we don't know what it is

2186
02:09:58,559 --> 02:10:01,259
necessarily accept it.
somebody's making money at the

2187
02:10:01,259 --> 02:10:03,179
end of the day yeah

2188
02:10:04,440 --> 02:10:07,920
I will probably going to do some
kind of I guess we'll be turning

2189
02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:09,540
our icons dark pretty soon

2190
02:10:09,570 --> 02:10:11,880
they're gonna have they're gonna
have a meeting with Snowden

2191
02:10:11,910 --> 02:10:13,680
they're gonna go to Russia it
sounds like they're gonna do a

2192
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:15,630
boondoggle and I'll go Russian
Yeah

2193
02:10:16,290 --> 02:10:19,110
Yeah Yeah something like that a

2194
02:10:19,140 --> 02:10:19,680
be fun

2195
02:10:19,740 --> 02:10:21,840
Hey Mother Jones give us some
money we gotta go to Russia

2196
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:28,470
gotta have a part a I mean a
meeting Yeah. Mother Jones

2197
02:10:32,220 --> 02:10:39,360
I have a obviously I'm gonna
have to do somebody's Windows

2198
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:41,880
eight thing because it keeps
sending me messages. I have I

2199
02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:43,860
found a new buzzword or
something that I think the

2200
02:10:43,860 --> 02:10:48,270
Republicans are going to try
tied to Hillary. Okay. I've

2201
02:10:48,270 --> 02:10:51,930
never heard this before. Okay.
It came right at a rants,

2202
02:10:51,930 --> 02:10:56,640
Priebus his mouth. Okay. He was
on the ship show. Jim Gregory.

2203
02:10:56,670 --> 02:11:00,930
Yeah, which is the consternation
face Meet the Press meeting

2204
02:11:00,930 --> 02:11:05,550
press. Sure to meet the Preface.
The Press, talk to the press.

2205
02:11:06,720 --> 02:11:09,210
Now he's going to talk a little
bit about the book, the gates

2206
02:11:09,210 --> 02:11:11,430
book, he's going to talk a
little bit about Hillary, and

2207
02:11:11,430 --> 02:11:14,340
I'm after he's done with this
after this clip is over, I want

2208
02:11:14,340 --> 02:11:18,180
you to tell me, because it's
pretty obvious what the new

2209
02:11:18,840 --> 02:11:22,200
proach is going to be,
especially the the one single

2210
02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:27,150
buzz term, which he can't resist
pretty much revealing Hillary

2211
02:11:27,150 --> 02:11:29,400
Clinton that Secretary of State
told the President that her

2212
02:11:29,400 --> 02:11:33,690
opposition to the 2007 surge in
Iraq had been political because

2213
02:11:33,690 --> 02:11:37,020
she was facing him and the Iowa
primary. The President conceded

2214
02:11:37,020 --> 02:11:40,050
vaguely that opposition to the
Iraq surge had been political to

2215
02:11:40,050 --> 02:11:42,180
hear the two of them making
these admissions and in front of

2216
02:11:42,180 --> 02:11:46,650
me was as surprising as it was
dismaying. Certainly,

2217
02:11:46,920 --> 02:11:49,200
progressive liberal Democrats
may have an issue with her

2218
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:52,380
taking that position, as
reported by Robert Gates. How do

2219
02:11:52,380 --> 02:11:52,830
you view it?

2220
02:11:54,270 --> 02:11:56,760
I think she's a political
person. And I think what this

2221
02:11:56,760 --> 02:12:00,330
country is starving for are
real, authentic people that want

2222
02:12:00,330 --> 02:12:02,730
to serve this country with a
pure heart. And when they read

2223
02:12:02,730 --> 02:12:04,950
these things about Hillary
Clinton, when they examine her

2224
02:12:04,950 --> 02:12:09,150
life, they question it. And I
think that this is something

2225
02:12:09,180 --> 02:12:12,720
that is going to be potentially
on the ballot, coming 2016 and

2226
02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:15,690
surrounds Hillary Clinton
wherever she goes. Is she real?

2227
02:12:15,840 --> 02:12:18,720
She authentic? Is she genuine?
Does she want to serve this

2228
02:12:18,720 --> 02:12:21,930
country to pure heart? I think
she's political. And I think

2229
02:12:21,930 --> 02:12:24,180
that Robert Gates book shows
that once again,

2230
02:12:25,020 --> 02:12:31,740
wow. Is she real? Is she Pure?
Pure Heart. Pure Heart. Yeah, he

2231
02:12:31,740 --> 02:12:32,520
said it twice.

2232
02:12:32,730 --> 02:12:36,240
He said it twice. I think this
is going to be this way. They're

2233
02:12:36,240 --> 02:12:41,100
going to go after her as a
phoney and insincere phoney

2234
02:12:41,100 --> 02:12:45,210
within who doesn't have a pure
heart. It's just like, Okay,

2235
02:12:45,210 --> 02:12:47,400
well, let's see how this one
works out for you guys.

2236
02:12:47,429 --> 02:12:51,239
Well, I like the the mean, that
flows on kind of on the back of

2237
02:12:51,239 --> 02:12:53,609
that about her her enemy
hitlist.

2238
02:12:54,780 --> 02:12:56,250
Yeah, right.

2239
02:12:57,810 --> 02:12:59,580
Hillary to the hit list,

2240
02:12:59,610 --> 02:13:02,970
because I noticed that but I
didn't get around to pull in the

2241
02:13:03,060 --> 02:13:03,660
article.

2242
02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:06,780
Yeah, Hillary Clinton's 2008
presidential campaign kept a

2243
02:13:06,780 --> 02:13:09,570
detailed list of party
colleagues who staffers believe

2244
02:13:09,570 --> 02:13:13,200
had betrayed her. During the
long and bitter primary ballot

2245
02:13:13,200 --> 02:13:16,980
with President Obama, a new book
reveals the list included

2246
02:13:16,980 --> 02:13:20,940
rankings, with those who are
considered the most egregious

2247
02:13:20,940 --> 02:13:25,800
traders by Clinton loyalists.
This is very Nixonian totally.

2248
02:13:26,340 --> 02:13:29,460
Then Senator John Kerry, who
would ultimately succeed Clinton

2249
02:13:29,460 --> 02:13:31,650
as Secretary of State and the
Obama administration was among

2250
02:13:31,650 --> 02:13:37,650
those who received the blackest
of black marks. Yeah, I can just

2251
02:13:37,650 --> 02:13:43,800
see little scribble that big
headed shit. Let's see. Who

2252
02:13:43,800 --> 02:13:47,610
else? Edward Kennedy. Wow, of
course, he's dead.

2253
02:13:48,450 --> 02:13:50,190
Oh, yeah, he turned out he
should be at the top of the

2254
02:13:50,190 --> 02:13:51,570
list. He really turned on her.

2255
02:13:52,170 --> 02:13:57,450
Jay Rockefeller, Bob Casey,
Patrick Leahy, as well as Chris

2256
02:13:57,450 --> 02:14:01,740
Van Hollen, Democrat from
Maryland, Rob Andrews barren

2257
02:14:01,740 --> 02:14:08,190
Hill. And this book HRC is
scheduled to be published

2258
02:14:08,190 --> 02:14:12,270
February 11. So that's another
one of those books but you just

2259
02:14:12,270 --> 02:14:17,340
see the reporting. What is this
this other report is from Oh,

2260
02:14:17,340 --> 02:14:19,920
this is the blaze which of
course is totally right wing.

2261
02:14:20,970 --> 02:14:24,750
Hillary Clinton secret hitlist.
Oh yeah, well, we know there is

2262
02:14:24,750 --> 02:14:30,450
a Clinton body count so this is
nothing new. You probably don't

2263
02:14:30,450 --> 02:14:32,670
want to be on any list that
Hillary Clinton has on her

2264
02:14:32,670 --> 02:14:35,790
person. Yeah, I don't think so.
You don't think what

2265
02:14:36,150 --> 02:14:39,120
I don't think you want to be on
the list. Oh no, this you can

2266
02:14:39,120 --> 02:14:43,380
die with your on her friends of
Hillary list and be good to

2267
02:14:43,380 --> 02:14:43,800
shots

2268
02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:46,800
to the head with a gun in your
left hand. This is not a good

2269
02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:48,720
list to be on. This is very,
very bad.

2270
02:14:49,470 --> 02:14:52,950
I'm gonna show my son moved by
donate to no agenda. Imagine all

2271
02:14:52,950 --> 02:14:55,500
the people who could do that. Oh
yeah, that'd be fun.

2272
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,400
I just like to start off John
real quick with a quick thank

2273
02:15:05,400 --> 02:15:09,360
you to Joe from healthy
surprise.com We I got another

2274
02:15:09,360 --> 02:15:12,060
box did you get another box?

2275
02:15:12,180 --> 02:15:15,780
No, I didn't get a box for a
while. Adam thanks for last box

2276
02:15:15,780 --> 02:15:17,370
I got was was not good.

2277
02:15:17,790 --> 02:15:21,540
Well, we got something called
kale Nola in the new box, kale

2278
02:15:21,540 --> 02:15:22,350
Nola.

2279
02:15:22,680 --> 02:15:25,350
I think I got kale Nolan the old
bucks, which was weeks ago.

2280
02:15:25,710 --> 02:15:28,860
Well, Joe, you got to send me an
email, because you're still

2281
02:15:28,860 --> 02:15:30,300
sending it to our old address. I

2282
02:15:30,300 --> 02:15:33,870
gotta go. You just got the old
box. So thanks for continuing

2283
02:15:33,870 --> 02:15:36,450
to deconstruct the news. Your
value for value model really is

2284
02:15:36,450 --> 02:15:38,790
the only way to provide unbiased
coverage. Well, at least the

2285
02:15:38,790 --> 02:15:41,610
biases you bring are funny and
are aligned with the citizens as

2286
02:15:41,610 --> 02:15:44,940
opposed to the security state.
Keep up the great work with

2287
02:15:44,940 --> 02:15:48,450
love. Joseph Winky chief snack
apologist from healthy

2288
02:15:48,450 --> 02:15:51,090
surprise.com All right, there
was some good stuff in the box.

2289
02:15:51,150 --> 02:15:54,390
The kale Nola was interesting.
I'll try anything with kale in

2290
02:15:54,390 --> 02:15:54,570
it.

2291
02:15:55,559 --> 02:15:57,209
Oh, brother. Oh, real. I'll

2292
02:15:57,210 --> 02:15:57,990
try anything.

2293
02:15:58,920 --> 02:16:01,890
Yeah, well, let's do Obama bots
are getting to you. It's just a

2294
02:16:01,890 --> 02:16:06,150
matter of time. Yeah, right.
Marius. Mikkel buster. Want to

2295
02:16:06,150 --> 02:16:10,500
thank him from spider burger,
Norway. Uh, so I'm sorry. Speed

2296
02:16:10,500 --> 02:16:14,280
Berg? I'm sure. 12345 He has a
note by the way. I don't know

2297
02:16:14,280 --> 02:16:19,290
that he's on the birthday list.
His birthday. He wants Scott. So

2298
02:16:21,240 --> 02:16:23,820
Kenneth. Meikle busts

2299
02:16:24,030 --> 02:16:26,880
Hold on a second. He's not on
the list. So Marius,

2300
02:16:27,000 --> 02:16:29,430
I don't know. But this whole
thing's got a big black border

2301
02:16:29,430 --> 02:16:31,530
around it, but he's not gonna
birthday listeners Michael

2302
02:16:31,530 --> 02:16:35,160
bustin. Who was he
congratulating Kenneth? KENNETH

2303
02:16:35,160 --> 02:16:37,890
Michael bust. Yeah. And how old
is he?

2304
02:16:38,490 --> 02:16:41,010
Does? He'll be 26? Okay, on

2305
02:16:42,809 --> 02:16:45,689
on the 15th. Okay, that's on
yesterday.

2306
02:16:46,620 --> 02:16:51,270
And he, as you know, this kms
photography.co.uk and 1000

2307
02:16:51,270 --> 02:16:54,960
bodies project.com. We've talked
about him. Yeah, I know. Yeah,

2308
02:16:54,990 --> 02:16:58,140
of course. Of course. David
Tanya Wyman came into the

2309
02:16:58,140 --> 02:17:04,080
$111.11. And she sent me a note
by mail. The last few months had

2310
02:17:04,080 --> 02:17:07,530
been so busy and she's one of
our more illustrious dames. And

2311
02:17:07,530 --> 02:17:11,250
so we will always read her note.
The last few months have been so

2312
02:17:11,250 --> 02:17:14,130
busy, I've become dangerously
close to Boehner hood for not

2313
02:17:14,130 --> 02:17:17,790
donating. So please accept a mia
culpa in the form of an enclosed

2314
02:17:17,790 --> 02:17:20,670
making it rain donation by
supporting John's exit strategy

2315
02:17:20,670 --> 02:17:22,890
by calling lady Nina to the
stage.

2316
02:17:24,360 --> 02:17:26,160
Are we doing that today? Are we
doing that? No, no, no.

2317
02:17:27,420 --> 02:17:29,730
But she's got it. She's on the
list. All right, good. I have

2318
02:17:29,730 --> 02:17:32,850
two recommendations for my
fellow producers the book Oryx

2319
02:17:32,850 --> 02:17:37,140
and Crake by Margaret Atwood, a
remarkable dystopian tale,

2320
02:17:38,070 --> 02:17:41,370
encompassing no agendas memes,
such as corporate fascism,

2321
02:17:41,370 --> 02:17:44,460
company towns and genetic
engineering in the 1967 version

2322
02:17:44,460 --> 02:17:48,180
of the movie, bedazzled, a
hilarious black comedy featuring

2323
02:17:48,180 --> 02:17:51,420
Peter Cook and Dudley Moore in a
jaw droppingly prescient,

2324
02:17:51,780 --> 02:17:55,410
prescient, final scene. Best of
luck to you both.

2325
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:57,930
I think I've heard of this, but
dazzle I have not seen it, but

2326
02:17:57,930 --> 02:17:58,650
I've heard I have.

2327
02:17:58,649 --> 02:18:02,939
It's good. It's quite funny. Rob
Dodd $111 in Shoreline,

2328
02:18:02,939 --> 02:18:07,709
Washington, huge fans give a
shout out to the Boehner to Joel

2329
02:18:07,709 --> 02:18:12,959
the Boehner Dylon NJ so I think
a shout out means a douche

2330
02:18:13,169 --> 02:18:14,639
thing. Do shout out.

2331
02:18:14,730 --> 02:18:15,900
Okay, I'll give him a do shout
out.

2332
02:18:17,370 --> 02:18:20,820
Yeah, the air Vasquez $100 in
San Diego, California. We've got

2333
02:18:20,820 --> 02:18:26,940
him on the birthday list. Mon
Amanda Skrei. I'm guessing

2334
02:18:26,940 --> 02:18:28,170
schoolboy What do you think?

2335
02:18:28,710 --> 02:18:31,110
As groyne This is girl 100
bucks.

2336
02:18:31,650 --> 02:18:34,290
And she's in South Bend,
Indiana. She's working on her

2337
02:18:34,290 --> 02:18:41,040
PhD. Last lafaye King of
Muskegon, Michigan $100. And

2338
02:18:41,040 --> 02:18:42,600
then we have a group of

2339
02:18:43,200 --> 02:18:47,850
Oh, I'm sorry, I was I was in a
completely different space.

2340
02:18:49,139 --> 02:18:52,169
A group of 6969

2341
02:18:53,639 --> 02:18:55,169
Short group but it's a group.

2342
02:18:55,799 --> 02:18:58,649
It's lathe king by the way. I'm
reading his note since this

2343
02:18:58,649 --> 02:19:05,429
sounds like a safe with an L.
And he's in Michigan Ed hor gay

2344
02:19:05,429 --> 02:19:11,699
or George Alvarez in Council
Bluffs, Iowa 6969 Brian Barrow

2345
02:19:11,699 --> 02:19:17,609
in Wootton Bassett, UK,
Christopher yaghi, in Konata,

2346
02:19:17,639 --> 02:19:24,599
Ontario, and Steven do in
Newburgh, West Virginia, and I

2347
02:19:24,599 --> 02:19:32,009
think he said something by mail,
I think. And where is it? Yeah,

2348
02:19:32,009 --> 02:19:38,069
he said. It unreadable note that
had the ending of screw longhand

2349
02:19:38,069 --> 02:19:41,939
he does isn't block letters.
Thank you for your comedy and

2350
02:19:41,939 --> 02:19:45,539
you're welcome to my check all
of all of it. Screw Pay Pal. I

2351
02:19:45,539 --> 02:19:49,799
needed to send a long overdue
Swasey enough because I've been

2352
02:19:49,799 --> 02:19:53,669
getting laid regularly and I
don't want to tempt the karma

2353
02:19:53,669 --> 02:19:59,669
gods by running too high a
surplus. So send me some 6969

2354
02:20:00,149 --> 02:20:04,079
karma to all human resources and
some new human resource to do

2355
02:20:04,079 --> 02:20:08,429
that the end of the list right?
And my lady friend at the get

2356
02:20:08,429 --> 02:20:13,109
the lot lizards and LSD ready
for my eventual knighthood.

2357
02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:15,390
Okay lizards analysis

2358
02:20:15,599 --> 02:20:19,289
mapelli. Again 1616. I

2359
02:20:19,290 --> 02:20:22,800
did. And this is an interesting
one from Thai.

2360
02:20:26,400 --> 02:20:33,720
Yeah, Thai McClure sent 69 in.
He's out in New Jersey Union

2361
02:20:33,720 --> 02:20:37,380
City, his longtime listener now
in need of a kidney transplant.

2362
02:20:37,380 --> 02:20:40,260
He hoped for some kidney
transport plant karma. We have

2363
02:20:40,260 --> 02:20:47,670
to do that. Yes. You've got
karma. He's, he's on dialysis.

2364
02:20:48,180 --> 02:20:51,990
I'll tell you, I'll tell you
that. A friend of ours gave his

2365
02:20:51,990 --> 02:20:55,350
kidney to someone who was in
need of a kidney and it's, it's,

2366
02:20:55,440 --> 02:20:59,760
it's a lot easier than it
sounds. No, it is. I mean, you

2367
02:20:59,760 --> 02:21:01,860
know, it's like three days in
the hospital and then you're out

2368
02:21:01,860 --> 02:21:05,790
and you get a little bit of
bloating, maybe because you've

2369
02:21:05,790 --> 02:21:10,770
been opened up. But it's not.
It's not the horror syndrome

2370
02:21:10,770 --> 02:21:12,870
that it used to be. It's a
pretty you know, if you can

2371
02:21:12,870 --> 02:21:17,400
donate a kidney to somebody,
it's pretty doable. Yeah. All

2372
02:21:17,400 --> 02:21:20,160
right. I'm always in awe of
people doing this kind of thing.

2373
02:21:20,160 --> 02:21:21,150
By the way. I'm like David

2374
02:21:21,150 --> 02:21:25,050
Hassan in Brooklyn, New York.
6669. Steven, sit

2375
02:21:25,290 --> 02:21:27,690
down hold on. I gotta say hi to
David. He's been helping me out

2376
02:21:27,690 --> 02:21:30,240
a lot on Turkey translation
stuff.

2377
02:21:31,710 --> 02:21:36,600
He's speaks Turkish he does.
Good. Lee Stephenson, Stockholm,

2378
02:21:36,630 --> 02:21:42,960
Sweden. 5555 Maxwell Roberts.
What is this colour? Oh, this is

2379
02:21:42,960 --> 02:21:45,600
because the douchebag call it
double nickels on the dime he

2380
02:21:45,600 --> 02:21:48,360
wants to call out Scott
McLaughlin for being a douche

2381
02:21:48,360 --> 02:21:54,540
bag douche bag Bill Hutchinson
and shine shaido Park in

2382
02:21:54,540 --> 02:21:58,830
Australia double Nick was on the
dime. He will have a birthday

2383
02:21:58,860 --> 02:22:03,360
call out Stephanie lesbian mid
lows the in Virginia double Nick

2384
02:22:03,360 --> 02:22:07,080
goes on the dime Scott carbon
parts unknown double nickels on

2385
02:22:07,080 --> 02:22:12,630
the diamond Timmy. Coke que yo
KKE cookie. Double nickels on

2386
02:22:12,630 --> 02:22:15,060
the diamond coulomb Borg
Netherlands. How do you

2387
02:22:15,060 --> 02:22:19,050
pronounce that? Newland? Bora?
No, not that name. Oh, Kochi.

2388
02:22:19,170 --> 02:22:23,280
Timmy cooker. cooker. Okay.
cooker. cooker. Crock me

2389
02:22:23,280 --> 02:22:27,120
coca. Sure. Steven Nelson and
wheat Ridge, Colorado wheat

2390
02:22:27,120 --> 02:22:32,460
Ridge, Aeon Chafee, Los Angles,
California. It should say

2391
02:22:32,460 --> 02:22:41,370
anonymous, but it doesn't. mark
something as I got a writer

2392
02:22:41,370 --> 02:22:45,750
reader reader, I don't know. Or
make me a kangaroo. Character,

2393
02:22:45,750 --> 02:22:46,020
Mike,

2394
02:22:46,260 --> 02:22:48,900
Mike Roeder, probably the rotor

2395
02:22:48,930 --> 02:22:50,520
do you get to that come through
on your spreadsheet?

2396
02:22:50,550 --> 02:22:51,330
I'm just guessing.

2397
02:22:51,750 --> 02:22:56,580
Heidelberg. Homer the Heidelberg
press. Josh MacDonald Brunswick

2398
02:22:56,580 --> 02:23:00,150
victorious Chris Lewinsky
Sherwood Park, Alberta, Huey,

2399
02:23:00,150 --> 02:23:03,960
Chris and finally 50 bucks each.
Those are all $50 and Cameron

2400
02:23:03,960 --> 02:23:08,700
Smith and Wangari New Zealand. A
nice name for a town he's got a

2401
02:23:08,700 --> 02:23:12,780
birthday coming up. Anonymous in
Putney, Virginia. Walter grant

2402
02:23:12,780 --> 02:23:16,470
the fourth in Moreno Valley,
California Stephanie Johnson,

2403
02:23:16,470 --> 02:23:20,250
Saginaw, Michigan, Mike
Westerfield are right regular, I

2404
02:23:20,250 --> 02:23:25,200
think is Sir micro Westerfield,
Brandon Savoie, Parts Unknown

2405
02:23:25,290 --> 02:23:31,320
Alan Dylon in Luxembourg and
finally Philip Mason in powe's

2406
02:23:31,590 --> 02:23:32,160
UK

2407
02:23:32,189 --> 02:23:36,059
and then just going back to Bill
Hutchinson he has a birthday

2408
02:23:36,059 --> 02:23:39,089
call out but also an F cancer
for his friends who seven year

2409
02:23:39,089 --> 02:23:42,329
old daughter has stage four
brain cancer ouch Yeah, so

2410
02:23:46,889 --> 02:23:55,619
you've got karma, and I had a
mate Good. From Marky boy from

2411
02:23:55,679 --> 02:23:59,639
the devil's toilet, Florida. I'm
an 1111 monthly donor had been

2412
02:23:59,639 --> 02:24:03,569
for three years just donate $100
This was earlier in the week or

2413
02:24:03,569 --> 02:24:07,409
Sunday. Due to John's newsletter
the window liqueurs at PayPal

2414
02:24:07,409 --> 02:24:10,799
didn't accept the note I wrote.
Could you please called even at

2415
02:24:10,799 --> 02:24:15,599
un un un and Stacy as sponging
donor douchebags

2416
02:24:18,030 --> 02:24:20,430
Marky boy from the devil's
toilet, Florida want to miss

2417
02:24:20,430 --> 02:24:21,390
those douchebag calls.

2418
02:24:21,570 --> 02:24:24,600
I wanted to always want to try
and get the call and then there

2419
02:24:24,600 --> 02:24:28,770
was somebody I guess I forgot to
write this down. Somebody pulled

2420
02:24:28,770 --> 02:24:36,360
it made a joke on us with a
name. That it was like my caucus

2421
02:24:36,360 --> 02:24:42,510
up Mike. Mike Mike Alcazar for
butts. Yeah, Mike Alcazar? Yeah,

2422
02:24:42,510 --> 02:24:43,860
thanks. Yeah, we're so busy.

2423
02:24:43,920 --> 02:24:46,770
Like you know how you managed to
do that on Pay Pal that okay.

2424
02:24:48,090 --> 02:24:51,240
Well, regardless, the fact that
we didn't catch it because we're

2425
02:24:51,240 --> 02:24:54,210
so busy. I don't know doing the
show during the show. You wanted

2426
02:24:54,210 --> 02:24:56,880
to share it? Yeah. Hahaha. All
right.

2427
02:24:57,480 --> 02:25:02,490
A couple other little notes. I
got Eddie Ching a sensor know

2428
02:25:02,490 --> 02:25:04,590
how does one sign up for the
newsletter?

2429
02:25:04,830 --> 02:25:08,280
It's on every single episode
show notes is on no agenda

2430
02:25:08,280 --> 02:25:10,770
show.com It's everywhere. It
says sign up for that

2431
02:25:10,770 --> 02:25:11,580
newsletter.

2432
02:25:11,940 --> 02:25:16,890
Exactly. That another guy cat
man in Laredo has donated a

2433
02:25:16,890 --> 02:25:19,950
small amount but he said that he
wanted to make sure that we knew

2434
02:25:19,950 --> 02:25:23,730
that 1124 show that's how far
back he is was excellent. Oh,

2435
02:25:23,730 --> 02:25:26,940
thank you. And he likes the
Freddie the firewall character.

2436
02:25:27,960 --> 02:25:33,480
Well, luckily, somebody does.
Anything else who can I kind of

2437
02:25:33,480 --> 02:25:38,100
think Oh, hold on a second. What
the hell is this? iTunes just

2438
02:25:38,100 --> 02:25:43,920
opened up? Why? I don't know.
And it says what is it doing?

2439
02:25:44,610 --> 02:25:53,520
Oh, it's it's asking me for
some. But the weirdest thing I

2440
02:25:53,520 --> 02:25:58,050
must have hit an A if I'm sorry.
My whole computer is now frozen

2441
02:25:58,050 --> 02:26:00,750
because of iTunes. Hold on. What
the hell?

2442
02:26:01,290 --> 02:26:03,930
No, iTunes is one of the worst
pieces of garbage ever bought

2443
02:26:03,990 --> 02:26:05,580
perpetrated on the American
public

2444
02:26:05,640 --> 02:26:10,440
the population of the world not
just the American public. It's

2445
02:26:10,440 --> 02:26:14,520
like it's a resource hog. All
right, everybody. We will have

2446
02:26:14,520 --> 02:26:16,650
another show on Sunday. Just a
couple of days we'll have more

2447
02:26:16,650 --> 02:26:19,500
deconstruction I think. I think
we've provided some value for

2448
02:26:19,500 --> 02:26:22,920
you. You've learned about one
two triple three Hello, one two

2449
02:26:22,920 --> 02:26:25,680
triple three. Like it's I'm
there Yeah, thank you.

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02:27:53,700 --> 02:27:57,270
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02:27:57,270 --> 02:28:02,190
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2475
02:28:02,190 --> 02:28:05,220
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2476
02:28:05,250 --> 02:28:07,230
nothing to corrupt our opinions.

2477
02:28:07,740 --> 02:28:13,800
No, nothing at all. Nothing.
Let's see. What else did I there

2478
02:28:13,800 --> 02:28:19,470
was some other things that were
going Oh, yes. Russia, Russia,

2479
02:28:19,500 --> 02:28:24,810
Russia, Russia, Russia. Now,
Brian are gay Crusader, who I

2480
02:28:24,810 --> 02:28:28,320
have to say, I thank him for his
courage because he's going to

2481
02:28:29,820 --> 02:28:31,500
he's gonna get himself in
trouble.

2482
02:28:31,529 --> 02:28:35,009
Yes, he's gonna get himself in
trouble. He realises it. But he

2483
02:28:35,009 --> 02:28:39,959
is so mad about the continuous
propagation of these lies about

2484
02:28:39,959 --> 02:28:45,479
the particularly if you compare
it to how LGBTQ IQ Qi people are

2485
02:28:45,479 --> 02:28:48,569
treated in other countries,
including these United States.

2486
02:28:49,889 --> 02:28:54,569
For and he's mad that his
communities are being used for

2487
02:28:54,569 --> 02:28:58,979
political reasons that people
are so many people are all on

2488
02:28:58,979 --> 02:29:02,609
board with it. So there's a
couple of things that that have

2489
02:29:02,609 --> 02:29:08,069
happened in just this past week
regarding the so called gay

2490
02:29:08,069 --> 02:29:13,499
laws, gay hate in Russia. And
the Netherlands is at the top of

2491
02:29:13,499 --> 02:29:18,899
lose the list right now. As I,
as I think I told you, the king

2492
02:29:19,409 --> 02:29:22,859
and the queen, along with the
Prime Minister all going to the

2493
02:29:22,859 --> 02:29:28,619
Olympic Games and the Dutch are
outraged. And the Russians, they

2494
02:29:28,619 --> 02:29:33,809
came right back and said, Oh,
really Holland. Really? What

2495
02:29:33,809 --> 02:29:36,029
they probably said quietly is if
you don't shut up, we're going

2496
02:29:36,029 --> 02:29:39,419
to turn off your gas but they
said, Oh, really Holland, we

2497
02:29:39,419 --> 02:29:43,139
have this little report. This
little report about human rights

2498
02:29:43,139 --> 02:29:45,989
in the European Union. I've put
I've taken the liberty of

2499
02:29:46,589 --> 02:29:50,249
putting a marked up copy of this
report in the show notes which

2500
02:29:50,249 --> 02:29:54,869
you'll find at 583 dot no agenda
notes.com report on the human

2501
02:29:54,869 --> 02:29:58,739
rights situation in the European
Union. The very interesting

2502
02:29:58,739 --> 02:30:03,389
document Well, they've taken it
from publicly available sources.

2503
02:30:03,389 --> 02:30:06,659
This is the Russians retaliating
saying the European Union

2504
02:30:06,659 --> 02:30:09,419
continues to position itself as
the main outpost in the struggle

2505
02:30:09,419 --> 02:30:11,909
for human rights in the world,
but its own legal activity in

2506
02:30:11,909 --> 02:30:15,959
this area does not correspond to
these claims. In the European

2507
02:30:15,959 --> 02:30:19,409
Union space still remain for
some unresolved issues

2508
02:30:19,409 --> 02:30:22,109
concerning the implementation of
the EU Charter of Fundamental

2509
02:30:22,109 --> 02:30:25,229
Rights. The this is a legal
thing, which I thought was

2510
02:30:25,229 --> 02:30:28,289
interesting. The inclusion of
the charter in the Lisbon Treaty

2511
02:30:28,379 --> 02:30:31,139
has not changed its limited
application. The charter applies

2512
02:30:31,169 --> 02:30:34,229
only to the activities of the EU
institutions and its member

2513
02:30:34,229 --> 02:30:36,839
states in the case they
implement the US legislation,

2514
02:30:37,289 --> 02:30:41,249
which they haven't. So Russia is
basically saying, you know, you

2515
02:30:41,249 --> 02:30:44,819
guys are a bunch of hypocrites
Shut up. And the Netherlands in

2516
02:30:44,819 --> 02:30:48,359
particular was called out. And
then every single day have a

2517
02:30:48,359 --> 02:30:50,879
little blurb on every country
only highlighted the Netherlands

2518
02:30:50,879 --> 02:30:55,919
because the Russians basically
made a big deal out of it. Among

2519
02:30:55,919 --> 02:30:58,439
the areas of concern in terms of
respect for human rights in the

2520
02:30:58,439 --> 02:31:00,389
Kingdom of the Netherlands,
attention is still drawn to the

2521
02:31:00,389 --> 02:31:03,179
situation with illegal
immigrants and asylum seekers.

2522
02:31:03,749 --> 02:31:06,089
They have to note the asylum
seekers are all thrown into

2523
02:31:06,089 --> 02:31:08,729
these little cabins which look
like jails and people are

2524
02:31:08,999 --> 02:31:13,589
committing suicide in them and
they're catching on fire. And

2525
02:31:13,619 --> 02:31:19,409
like 24 People are dying. Just
because of that they're stuck in

2526
02:31:19,409 --> 02:31:24,089
this little wooden box. And then
they go into the the Netherlands

2527
02:31:24,089 --> 02:31:28,289
being pretty much open house for
paedophiles and child

2528
02:31:28,289 --> 02:31:33,599
pornography. And they have no
open source information to back

2529
02:31:33,599 --> 02:31:37,349
up their claims. So it's well
worth reading. If you check out

2530
02:31:37,349 --> 02:31:40,139
the show notes, here's the
things that are interesting.

2531
02:31:41,099 --> 02:31:45,779
Heineken is once again going to
sponsor the Holland house at the

2532
02:31:45,899 --> 02:31:50,309
at the Olympic Games in Sochi.
And they're getting a free pass

2533
02:31:50,429 --> 02:31:54,209
for some reason. Heineken said,
oh, you know, we we talked to

2534
02:31:54,209 --> 02:31:58,169
the COC, which is the the Big
Gay organisation in Holland. And

2535
02:31:58,199 --> 02:32:01,979
we we got, we were informed and
we think we can still sponsor

2536
02:32:01,979 --> 02:32:05,759
the biggest still sponsor the
the Olympic Games and the

2537
02:32:05,759 --> 02:32:09,479
Holland house. And of course,
not a single publication in the

2538
02:32:09,479 --> 02:32:12,719
Netherlands is calling them to
task because oh, I don't know,

2539
02:32:12,899 --> 02:32:19,859
they're a huge advertiser. Here
in the United States, we of

2540
02:32:19,859 --> 02:32:26,699
course, continue to propagate
the lie that there are some knew

2541
02:32:26,729 --> 02:32:30,749
that some anti gay regulation
kill all the gays, you can't be

2542
02:32:30,749 --> 02:32:33,389
gay, you can't talk. You can't
even think gay. You can't even

2543
02:32:33,389 --> 02:32:35,639
want a blow job from a woman
that looks like a guy if you're

2544
02:32:35,639 --> 02:32:38,009
going to Russia. And what we
have done is we have the

2545
02:32:38,009 --> 02:32:41,489
President, as you recall, has
put together a team and what was

2546
02:32:41,489 --> 02:32:45,299
this team? John, this was known
gays and lesbians to go to the

2547
02:32:45,299 --> 02:32:49,409
Olympics to make a stand. Was
this your impression of what

2548
02:32:49,409 --> 02:32:53,039
happened? There? Yeah, that's
what I thought and and on. This

2549
02:32:53,159 --> 02:32:59,579
was the ability Jean King, known
lesbian. And she's there to make

2550
02:32:59,579 --> 02:33:02,579
a stand. And she was talking
about this on one of the morning

2551
02:33:02,579 --> 02:33:06,389
shows. And wouldn't you know, it
turns out, maybe not so

2552
02:33:06,420 --> 02:33:09,540
as one of five members of the US
presidential delegation, Billie

2553
02:33:09,540 --> 02:33:10,410
Jean King, good morning.

2554
02:33:10,440 --> 02:33:11,940
Good morning. It's great to be
here.

2555
02:33:12,210 --> 02:33:15,060
This delegation includes three
openly gay members.

2556
02:33:15,060 --> 02:33:18,420
And which is funny, actually,
because Janet Napolitano is also

2557
02:33:18,420 --> 02:33:20,970
on the delegation, and she's not
counted as one of the three

2558
02:33:21,810 --> 02:33:24,360
that would catch but

2559
02:33:24,390 --> 02:33:27,150
there's, she's going but they
put up the three and it's

2560
02:33:27,720 --> 02:33:32,490
the one straight person. I don't
know. But I think there's not

2561
02:33:32,490 --> 02:33:34,650
straight I'm sure they're all
gay Nacho mentioned it. Yeah.

2562
02:33:36,540 --> 02:33:39,600
Is one of five members of the US
presidential delegation, Billie

2563
02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:40,470
Jean King, good morning.

2564
02:33:40,500 --> 02:33:42,030
Good morning. Great to be here.

2565
02:33:42,270 --> 02:33:45,330
This delegation includes three
openly gay members and of

2566
02:33:45,330 --> 02:33:49,050
course, a lot of people view it
as as a as a gesture to the

2567
02:33:49,050 --> 02:33:52,230
Russian government, which
recently passed strict anti gay

2568
02:33:52,230 --> 02:33:52,680
laws.

2569
02:33:52,710 --> 02:33:57,240
Okay, stop, stop this. This
makes me mad. Did you hear what

2570
02:33:57,240 --> 02:33:57,870
he said?

2571
02:33:58,590 --> 02:34:01,560
Yeah, they passed a bunch of
anti gay law, strict

2572
02:34:01,560 --> 02:34:07,020
anti gay laws. The word gay is
not even in the law. And it is

2573
02:34:07,020 --> 02:34:11,790
about propaganda of alternative
lifestyle to minors. That's it.

2574
02:34:11,910 --> 02:34:17,310
There is no word about gay,
lesbian, any LGBTQ Qi at all

2575
02:34:17,310 --> 02:34:19,560
whatsoever. This is a lie

2576
02:34:19,620 --> 02:34:22,710
as one of five members of the US
presidential delegation Billie

2577
02:34:22,710 --> 02:34:23,610
Jean King, good morning.

2578
02:34:23,640 --> 02:34:25,140
Good morning. It's great to be
here.

2579
02:34:25,380 --> 02:34:28,440
This delegation includes three
openly gay members and of

2580
02:34:28,440 --> 02:34:32,190
course, a lot of people view it
as a as a as a gesture to the

2581
02:34:32,190 --> 02:34:35,370
Russian government, which
recently passed strict anti gay

2582
02:34:35,370 --> 02:34:35,880
laws.

2583
02:34:36,240 --> 02:34:38,700
Did you think she's gotten
because she didn't read them?

2584
02:34:38,760 --> 02:34:40,590
You discuss that with the
president anyway?

2585
02:34:40,710 --> 02:34:42,510
No, did not. Oh,

2586
02:34:42,540 --> 02:34:46,350
wow. You wait a minute. The
president. I thought he was

2587
02:34:46,350 --> 02:34:50,490
pretty much taking credit for
sending these people there. No,

2588
02:34:50,550 --> 02:34:53,460
no, no. Didn't talk about not at
all didn't even didn't even come

2589
02:34:53,460 --> 02:34:57,210
up in conversation. Not for a
second. Really. Did

2590
02:34:57,210 --> 02:34:59,010
you discuss that with the
president anyway?

2591
02:34:59,100 --> 02:35:02,340
No did not No, we've not been
told what to say not to say

2592
02:35:02,340 --> 02:35:04,170
what's just kind of nice,
actually. So

2593
02:35:04,170 --> 02:35:05,160
what do you see your role is?

2594
02:35:05,520 --> 02:35:07,980
I think our first job is to
represent our country and our

2595
02:35:07,980 --> 02:35:08,520
President,

2596
02:35:09,000 --> 02:35:12,630
by the way, nice trip. Free
trip.

2597
02:35:13,110 --> 02:35:16,920
Yeah. Just Sochi, which is so
right on the on the Baltic

2598
02:35:16,920 --> 02:35:17,700
ocean, I believe.

2599
02:35:18,540 --> 02:35:21,870
These are the trips you want.
Yeah, private planes,

2600
02:35:21,870 --> 02:35:25,710
helicopters, limos food, all the
chicks, you can bang.

2601
02:35:26,040 --> 02:35:28,980
And also, our job is this is,
you know, the Olympics are

2602
02:35:28,980 --> 02:35:32,670
really, first and foremost about
the athletes. And I think I

2603
02:35:32,670 --> 02:35:35,220
don't want anyone to lose sight
of that. Because these these

2604
02:35:35,220 --> 02:35:36,960
athletes have worked so hard. I
mean,

2605
02:35:37,440 --> 02:35:39,990
when we spoke with you back in
August, we asked you if athletes

2606
02:35:39,990 --> 02:35:42,960
should protest and back then you
said, that's sort of a hard one.

2607
02:35:43,500 --> 02:35:46,710
What do you think now? And I
would have to imagine that we 50

2608
02:35:46,710 --> 02:35:48,480
Which a lot of people don't
realise exists, right? The

2609
02:35:48,480 --> 02:35:49,860
Olympics plays a big role.

2610
02:35:50,010 --> 02:35:54,510
Yes, I think that probably came
from the fact with John Carlos

2611
02:35:54,510 --> 02:35:59,640
and Tommie Smith racer, their
arms about civil rights, human

2612
02:35:59,640 --> 02:36:02,970
rights back in 68. I think the
real power is written after that

2613
02:36:02,970 --> 02:36:07,650
rule 50 Because it bans all
landowners to protest or

2614
02:36:07,650 --> 02:36:10,530
demonstrate and if they do, they
can have their metal stripped,

2615
02:36:10,860 --> 02:36:12,000
and they can be sent home.

2616
02:36:12,270 --> 02:36:15,870
All right. You know, I'm one of
those crazy people who then goes

2617
02:36:15,870 --> 02:36:24,180
and looks at rule 50 Polly's
rule 50 advertising,

2618
02:36:24,210 --> 02:36:30,510
demonstrations, and propaganda.
The IOC executive board

2619
02:36:30,510 --> 02:36:32,790
determines the principles and
conditions under which any form

2620
02:36:32,790 --> 02:36:35,910
of advertising or other
publicity may be authorised, no

2621
02:36:35,910 --> 02:36:38,490
form of advertising or other
publicity shall be allowed in

2622
02:36:38,490 --> 02:36:41,220
and above the stadium venues and
other competent competition

2623
02:36:41,220 --> 02:36:43,200
areas which are considered as
part of the Olympic sites,

2624
02:36:43,200 --> 02:36:45,600
commercial installations and
advertising sign shall not be

2625
02:36:45,600 --> 02:36:49,170
allowed in the state. This is an
advertising clause. And then, if

2626
02:36:49,170 --> 02:36:52,590
one line, no kind of
demonstration, or political,

2627
02:36:52,590 --> 02:36:56,310
religious, or racial propaganda
is permitted in any Olympic

2628
02:36:56,310 --> 02:36:59,610
sites, venues or other areas, is
pretty much the same as the

2629
02:36:59,610 --> 02:37:05,040
Russian law against propaganda
to minors for alternative

2630
02:37:05,040 --> 02:37:08,760
lifestyle, you're not allowed to
propagandise any alternative

2631
02:37:08,760 --> 02:37:14,250
lifestyle is the same. And
that's all and the rest is all

2632
02:37:14,790 --> 02:37:18,930
about advertising. What the logo
can be where it can be displayed

2633
02:37:18,930 --> 02:37:22,140
how big it nope, no greater than
60 centimetres from, you know,

2634
02:37:22,140 --> 02:37:24,990
six centimetres, 60 centimetres
from the from the Olympic logo

2635
02:37:24,990 --> 02:37:28,800
headgear Canada, it's all about
advertising in this one little

2636
02:37:28,800 --> 02:37:35,280
line, your rule 50 is exactly
the same as the Russian law. No

2637
02:37:35,280 --> 02:37:38,490
propaganda permitted for
religious, political or racial

2638
02:37:38,490 --> 02:37:43,290
propaganda, or any kind of
demonstration. And the President

2639
02:37:43,290 --> 02:37:45,840
didn't even ask her to do
anything in the first place.

2640
02:37:47,430 --> 02:37:49,500
So you think this was a bunch of
bull?

2641
02:37:50,100 --> 02:37:52,890
Let me know, let me just tell
you what's happening in the

2642
02:37:52,890 --> 02:37:55,740
United States. I'll just give
you four headlines, arrests made

2643
02:37:55,740 --> 02:37:58,710
and beating of man by mob of 20,
outside gay bar in Cleveland,

2644
02:37:58,860 --> 02:38:02,640
man's nose broken and Capitol
Hill gay bashing, gay man

2645
02:38:02,640 --> 02:38:05,910
allegedly attacked by Cleveland
mob and hate crime. You see the

2646
02:38:05,910 --> 02:38:08,520
problem here. And if I could get
a million of these for the

2647
02:38:08,520 --> 02:38:11,430
Netherlands, where the Moroccan
immigrants have turned

2648
02:38:11,430 --> 02:38:14,820
Amsterdam, the most gay friendly
city in the world, to my

2649
02:38:14,820 --> 02:38:19,980
knowledge, into a place where
people, especially gay and

2650
02:38:19,980 --> 02:38:22,590
lesbian couples don't want to
hold hands on the street anymore

2651
02:38:22,650 --> 02:38:28,440
for fear of being beaten up. And
this is a misdirected anger,

2652
02:38:29,280 --> 02:38:34,260
particularly from the LGBTQ Qi
community who are so mad, but

2653
02:38:34,260 --> 02:38:38,940
they are directing their anger
towards Russia in properly and

2654
02:38:38,940 --> 02:38:40,890
not dealing with the stuff that

2655
02:38:42,330 --> 02:38:44,010
their anger directed.

2656
02:38:44,370 --> 02:38:46,950
You I'm sorry, you're right.
They are being directed. But

2657
02:38:46,950 --> 02:38:51,570
it's misdirected anger. Right? I
agree. And you look at what's

2658
02:38:51,570 --> 02:38:55,950
happening in your own home. And
this all this protest is because

2659
02:38:55,950 --> 02:39:00,090
they're angry about what's
happening to them personally.

2660
02:39:00,240 --> 02:39:03,930
And this being your eyes being
directed towards Russia, for

2661
02:39:03,930 --> 02:39:09,600
completely for real political
reasons. And I have to tell you,

2662
02:39:09,750 --> 02:39:14,640
I'm so tired of this Cold War. I
grew up during the Cold War. I'm

2663
02:39:14,640 --> 02:39:20,730
tired of it. It's it's no fun.
And it's too bad. It's kind of

2664
02:39:20,730 --> 02:39:24,960
working again, How stupid are
we? I'll never forget going to

2665
02:39:24,960 --> 02:39:31,740
Moscow in 1988 or 89. before the
wall came down for the Moscow

2666
02:39:31,740 --> 02:39:35,970
music Peace Festival. And I was
told about the KGB and every

2667
02:39:35,970 --> 02:39:39,360
hooker was KGB, and they'll be
tapping my phone. And it's all a

2668
02:39:39,360 --> 02:39:42,660
police state and everything's
horrible. And I remember looking

2669
02:39:42,660 --> 02:39:48,420
out of the 35 camera truck with
a direct satellite phone

2670
02:39:48,420 --> 02:39:50,790
connection to Long Island. I
could pick up the phone had a

2671
02:39:50,790 --> 02:39:55,920
Long Island dial tone and saw
this little grey bus Lada bus,

2672
02:39:56,070 --> 02:39:59,280
which was the KGB thing with
little curtains and I thought,

2673
02:39:59,370 --> 02:40:02,220
holy crap AP, we thought these
guys had some technology, they

2674
02:40:02,220 --> 02:40:05,220
got nothing. And it turns I had

2675
02:40:05,220 --> 02:40:07,020
nothing. It was really funny
because I was there around the

2676
02:40:07,020 --> 02:40:11,940
same time. And I was staying at
the mirror, which is spelled M

2677
02:40:12,900 --> 02:40:19,350
and backwards R. And it was it
was a diplomats hotel before

2678
02:40:19,350 --> 02:40:22,590
they commercialise it for the
public even though it was still

2679
02:40:22,620 --> 02:40:27,000
before the fall of the of the
communism and so everyone

2680
02:40:27,000 --> 02:40:28,740
there's so they're all these
maids you know, there's some

2681
02:40:28,770 --> 02:40:31,860
woman at each floor you have to
say hello to and all the rest.

2682
02:40:32,370 --> 02:40:36,870
But they had microphones planted
in there. And the microphones

2683
02:40:36,870 --> 02:40:40,770
had their clearly microphones,
but the mic they were planted

2684
02:40:40,770 --> 02:40:45,870
there, God knows when and they
had been painted over from like

2685
02:40:45,870 --> 02:40:48,570
little layers and let you could
chip the paint off and find that

2686
02:40:48,570 --> 02:40:50,430
microphone. But it was just like
they didn't care. It was just,

2687
02:40:51,120 --> 02:40:54,990
it just the whole thing was so
shoddy. Like, oh, good had to

2688
02:40:54,990 --> 02:40:58,380
feel bad. I've said this before.
Ronald Reagan, when he got

2689
02:40:58,410 --> 02:41:01,890
elected, made a big deal about
the evil empire, the evil

2690
02:41:01,890 --> 02:41:04,890
empire. And he went on and on
and on about it until he went to

2691
02:41:04,890 --> 02:41:09,870
Russia. Right, exactly. went to
Russia and never used that term

2692
02:41:09,870 --> 02:41:13,050
again. And he's the one who
worked with Gorbachev to get

2693
02:41:13,050 --> 02:41:18,270
things together his wall down
now. He apparently went there

2694
02:41:18,270 --> 02:41:20,460
and saw what was going on. It
was horrible.

2695
02:41:21,660 --> 02:41:25,740
In but this propaganda. So we
have this Dave Sater, and he's

2696
02:41:25,740 --> 02:41:28,680
been all over the news that this
guy must be a CIA operative or

2697
02:41:28,680 --> 02:41:31,950
something that Oh, I got kicked
out of Russia. I'm a journalist

2698
02:41:31,950 --> 02:41:35,700
and get kicked out of Russia.
Well, we really and actually,

2699
02:41:35,700 --> 02:41:38,190
I'll props to Brian that I'm not
giving his last name because I

2700
02:41:38,190 --> 02:41:41,400
don't I don't want him if he
wants to use his last name on

2701
02:41:41,400 --> 02:41:43,830
the report and everything that's
up to him. I don't want to be

2702
02:41:43,830 --> 02:41:47,310
outing him the whole time, so to
speak. He did the research on

2703
02:41:47,310 --> 02:41:51,030
this Dave Sater. First of all
the guy was working for Radio

2704
02:41:51,030 --> 02:41:55,980
Free Europe Radio Liberty,
hello. You know, yeah. And and

2705
02:41:55,980 --> 02:42:01,830
he essentially, he didn't get
his his visa in time. It expired

2706
02:42:01,830 --> 02:42:07,410
November 20. Before the 21st.
And the Russian authorities even

2707
02:42:07,410 --> 02:42:10,170
said, Hey, man, you gotta get
your visa together. And he

2708
02:42:10,170 --> 02:42:14,880
didn't and then he reentered
this, get out. And now he's

2709
02:42:14,880 --> 02:42:17,550
making a big deal. Oh, they're
kicking the journalists out.

2710
02:42:18,840 --> 02:42:24,720
Shut up, people shut up. And
then the Nobel laureates penned

2711
02:42:24,720 --> 02:42:29,610
an open letter to Putin, actor
Ian McKellen and 27 Nobel

2712
02:42:29,610 --> 02:42:32,850
laureates have written an open
letter urging Russia's president

2713
02:42:32,850 --> 02:42:38,550
to repeal an anti gay law, which
is not true ABC News. It's not

2714
02:42:38,550 --> 02:42:43,410
an anti gay law and expressing
their solidarity with critics of

2715
02:42:43,410 --> 02:42:50,640
the legislation. Ah, maybe tires
me and

2716
02:42:52,500 --> 02:42:55,050
Ty you know, when we do this
sort of thing, we've been doing

2717
02:42:55,050 --> 02:42:58,860
it forever. And it's funny to
see the old fashioned versions

2718
02:42:58,860 --> 02:43:02,460
of it here and there and and
then you don't get this here too

2719
02:43:02,460 --> 02:43:06,180
much of it. But they're the
Iranians have, you know, have

2720
02:43:06,180 --> 02:43:09,360
you done a deal with them and
they come out and tell their

2721
02:43:09,360 --> 02:43:13,200
people essentially blatant lies
about how it came down, but

2722
02:43:13,200 --> 02:43:15,510
isn't really not that much
different than what we do only

2723
02:43:15,510 --> 02:43:19,500
as kind of funnier? Because we
think that you know that this

2724
02:43:19,500 --> 02:43:23,400
isn't going on everywhere, but
play my your Iranian blowhard

2725
02:43:23,820 --> 02:43:28,110
clip and see some other people
doing this sort of lying

2726
02:43:28,140 --> 02:43:31,950
today, President Hassan Rouhani
claimed his government won a

2727
02:43:31,950 --> 02:43:36,000
victory with a landmark nuclear
agreement. Under the deal Iran

2728
02:43:36,000 --> 02:43:39,480
is to scale back its nuclear
enrichment in exchange for

2729
02:43:39,480 --> 02:43:43,260
economic sanctions relief over
the next six months. Rouhani

2730
02:43:43,260 --> 02:43:47,130
told supporters in the city of
Iwase that the US and others

2731
02:43:47,250 --> 02:43:49,260
cave to Iran's demands.

2732
02:43:51,060 --> 02:43:53,880
The Geneva agreement will be put
into action within the next few

2733
02:43:53,880 --> 02:43:56,580
days. Do you know what the
Geneva agreement means? It means

2734
02:43:56,580 --> 02:43:58,890
the surrender of great
international powers before the

2735
02:43:58,890 --> 02:44:02,190
great nation of Iran. The Geneva
agreement means the breaking of

2736
02:44:02,190 --> 02:44:04,860
the barrier of sanctions that
had been imposed wrongfully on

2737
02:44:04,860 --> 02:44:06,930
this dear and peace loving
nation of Iran.

2738
02:44:07,439 --> 02:44:10,589
Iranian hardliners have
criticised the deal arguing it

2739
02:44:10,589 --> 02:44:13,679
infringes on Tehran's right to
nuclear enrichment.

2740
02:44:14,100 --> 02:44:16,770
Yeah, this is the this is the
thing that Israel is so

2741
02:44:16,830 --> 02:44:21,120
incredibly angry about. They
feel that they've been sold down

2742
02:44:21,120 --> 02:44:27,300
the river. And I believe this
part of this is why the Minister

2743
02:44:27,300 --> 02:44:33,000
of Defence the Defence Minister,
what's his name? Hold on. I have

2744
02:44:33,030 --> 02:44:39,750
to be His name is your lawn.
Where he said John Kerry is

2745
02:44:39,750 --> 02:44:42,810
messianic thing to get this guy
out of here. You're right.

2746
02:44:42,810 --> 02:44:46,560
He was the he's the anti carry
Yellowheart another blow he's

2747
02:44:46,560 --> 02:44:46,680
like,

2748
02:44:46,680 --> 02:44:50,130
why don't you give him once you
give him a Nobel Peace Prize so

2749
02:44:50,130 --> 02:44:53,400
we can just That's all I can get
him out of here, messianic.

2750
02:44:56,160 --> 02:44:58,980
There he says he doesn't know
what he's doing. Yeah, well, he

2751
02:44:58,980 --> 02:45:01,740
doesn't Well, that's probably
true, but who does?

2752
02:45:01,830 --> 02:45:06,600
Yeah, well, and I totally am on
board that, you know, we're

2753
02:45:06,600 --> 02:45:10,620
discounting this guy. You got to
think John Kerry wants to make a

2754
02:45:10,620 --> 02:45:13,500
run as well, for 2016. We
haven't really looked at him

2755
02:45:13,500 --> 02:45:14,130
carefully.

2756
02:45:14,670 --> 02:45:16,980
Well, yeah, good point. We
haven't we haven't considered

2757
02:45:16,980 --> 02:45:18,750
him as a possible candidate,
because

2758
02:45:18,750 --> 02:45:23,280
he's the kind of guy that, you
know, he would his ego almost

2759
02:45:23,280 --> 02:45:28,590
kind of warrants it, you know.
So there was all kinds of things

2760
02:45:28,590 --> 02:45:32,520
showing up in the in the Federal
Register about Iran, let's see,

2761
02:45:34,020 --> 02:45:36,570
January 15. And this notice is
to inform the public that the

2762
02:45:36,570 --> 02:45:39,660
President United States
determined on November 29 2013.

2763
02:45:40,170 --> 02:45:44,160
Above above the NDAA. Consistent
with prior to termination, there

2764
02:45:44,160 --> 02:45:46,230
is sufficient supply of
petroleum petroleum products

2765
02:45:46,230 --> 02:45:49,260
from countries other than Iran
to permit a significant

2766
02:45:49,260 --> 02:45:51,870
reduction in the volume of
petroleum and petroleum products

2767
02:45:51,870 --> 02:45:56,400
purchased from Iran. But then
right below it. We have a

2768
02:45:56,400 --> 02:46:02,640
determination from the Secretary
of State that says, As amended

2769
02:46:02,640 --> 02:46:06,900
by the Iran Threat Reduction in
Syria Human Rights Act, as of

2770
02:46:06,900 --> 02:46:10,050
November 29, each of the
following importers of oil from

2771
02:46:10,050 --> 02:46:14,730
Iran has qualified for the 180
day exception. And I believe

2772
02:46:14,730 --> 02:46:21,750
this is what what Rouhani is
celebrating. So for 180 days,

2773
02:46:21,750 --> 02:46:24,240
the following countries have an
exception to purchase oil from

2774
02:46:24,240 --> 02:46:27,570
Iran, India, Malaysia, the
People's Republic of China, the

2775
02:46:27,570 --> 02:46:30,960
Republic of Korea, that would be
South Korea, Singapore, South

2776
02:46:30,960 --> 02:46:38,520
Africa, Sri Lanka, Taiwan, and
Turkey. I guess that's that's

2777
02:46:38,520 --> 02:46:43,230
kind of the the wind there, I
guess. And then there's an Iran

2778
02:46:43,230 --> 02:46:48,570
Russia deal that that seems to
be concerning. Very small, a

2779
02:46:48,570 --> 02:46:54,180
$1.5 billion. But it's, I don't
know, man.

2780
02:46:55,020 --> 02:46:59,040
I don't think it's I think that
things are fine. Although, you

2781
02:46:59,040 --> 02:47:01,260
know, the guy has to do the
blowhard thing. And it doesn't

2782
02:47:01,260 --> 02:47:03,960
surprise me because when
Kennedy, you know, forced them

2783
02:47:03,960 --> 02:47:08,730
to pull the missiles out of
Cuba. I was a kid then I

2784
02:47:08,730 --> 02:47:12,060
remember all this. And we took
all this credit for making the

2785
02:47:12,090 --> 02:47:16,860
Khrushchev back down. Yeah. It
was a quid pro quo. They told us

2786
02:47:16,860 --> 02:47:18,630
Yeah, we'll take the missiles
out, but you gotta get those

2787
02:47:18,630 --> 02:47:22,110
missiles out of Poland. Exactly.
And so we pulled a bunch of

2788
02:47:22,110 --> 02:47:24,600
missiles out and then we pulled
the same stunt that this guy

2789
02:47:24,600 --> 02:47:27,240
did, which is take credit for
the whole thing those Russians

2790
02:47:27,240 --> 02:47:30,060
are, you know, they backed down,
they we backed him down, and

2791
02:47:30,060 --> 02:47:32,070
this is nonsense we don't need

2792
02:47:32,580 --> 02:47:36,930
as a funny, funny little thing
in Israel. Israel's ministerial

2793
02:47:36,930 --> 02:47:39,870
committee for legislation
approved a bill on Sunday that

2794
02:47:39,870 --> 02:47:44,250
would forbid the use of the word
Nazi in any form, as well as

2795
02:47:44,250 --> 02:47:49,530
words with similar sounds. For
any reason, use of the word Nazi

2796
02:47:49,560 --> 02:47:52,200
would be allowed only for
educational purposes,

2797
02:47:52,440 --> 02:47:57,630
documentation, historical or
scientific research. Offenders

2798
02:47:57,630 --> 02:48:01,320
face up to six months in prison
and a fine of 100,000 shekels by

2799
02:48:01,350 --> 02:48:06,360
20 $28,000. If you use the word
the draft, the law also outlaws

2800
02:48:06,390 --> 02:48:10,470
insulting someone by wishing or
expressing hope that the Nazis

2801
02:48:10,470 --> 02:48:14,490
goals should be fulfilled. As
well as lamenting the fact that

2802
02:48:14,490 --> 02:48:17,970
the Nazis failed to achieve
their goals. You gotta write

2803
02:48:17,970 --> 02:48:20,400
this down and we got to be very
careful. You can't call anyone a

2804
02:48:20,400 --> 02:48:25,800
Nazi anymore. However, the bill
does not prohibit calling actual

2805
02:48:25,800 --> 02:48:27,090
Nazis Nazis

2806
02:48:33,540 --> 02:48:40,830
this is what you know, people. I
mean, seriously. What are you

2807
02:48:40,830 --> 02:48:44,760
regulating here? His courage?
Yeah, free speech.

2808
02:48:45,539 --> 02:48:50,969
I have one last clip. Because it
caught me off guard. The Chinese

2809
02:48:50,969 --> 02:48:54,509
have relaxed a one child rule.
And they they've started

2810
02:48:54,509 --> 02:48:58,079
relaxing some time ago by
allowing only children to have

2811
02:48:58,349 --> 02:49:01,889
to chop children. But then now
it's just pretty much wide open.

2812
02:49:02,159 --> 02:49:05,879
And I was thinking because the
Chinese love children so much

2813
02:49:06,719 --> 02:49:10,349
that they would go into start
having a bunch of kids. And it's

2814
02:49:10,499 --> 02:49:15,389
may not be true. In fact, the
situation because I think I

2815
02:49:15,389 --> 02:49:18,149
think the Chinese culture has
actually changed just enough

2816
02:49:18,149 --> 02:49:21,989
with all this capitalism that
they've inserted that the

2817
02:49:21,989 --> 02:49:25,409
Chinese don't want to have more
kids and they and this report

2818
02:49:25,409 --> 02:49:26,669
kind of outlines some of it.

2819
02:49:26,730 --> 02:49:29,970
Well, I made this up on food
safety standards in China a

2820
02:49:29,970 --> 02:49:33,210
terrible that's how sturdy bn is
in the supermarket. I always go

2821
02:49:33,210 --> 02:49:37,260
to the imported food section of
this u haul. When my child was

2822
02:49:37,260 --> 02:49:40,320
very young, we used to order
milk powder, and even nappies

2823
02:49:40,320 --> 02:49:44,970
from Japan over the internet.
But maybe in Bangkok, at that

2824
02:49:44,970 --> 02:49:49,110
time, I can have milk powder was
more than 30 euros, bad soil

2825
02:49:49,110 --> 02:49:49,950
maybe back.

2826
02:49:50,340 --> 02:49:55,170
China's birth rate is now below
1.5 children per woman. That's

2827
02:49:55,170 --> 02:49:58,830
one of the lowest in the world.
Many experts like swash Wei

2828
02:49:58,830 --> 02:50:01,950
Jiang say the one child policy
is now irrelevant.

2829
02:50:02,340 --> 02:50:07,350
So unsanctioned. Over the long
term, the birth rate in China

2830
02:50:07,350 --> 02:50:10,710
will be very low on Wednesday,
all kinds of some question that

2831
02:50:10,740 --> 02:50:15,570
other Chinese communities like
in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau, and

2832
02:50:15,570 --> 02:50:19,470
even have the lowest birth rates
in the world. And over there,

2833
02:50:19,500 --> 02:50:23,700
they don't even have any birth
control policies. The percentage

2834
02:50:23,700 --> 02:50:27,390
of senior citizens in China will
keep increasing in the future,

2835
02:50:27,600 --> 02:50:30,330
which will impact the
sustainable economic development

2836
02:50:30,360 --> 02:50:32,760
of our countries and stuff like
that. So there will be big

2837
02:50:32,760 --> 02:50:33,420
problems.

2838
02:50:34,620 --> 02:50:38,010
This ageing demographic and a
limited pension system have

2839
02:50:38,010 --> 02:50:42,060
direct consequences on China's
birth rates. Many young couples

2840
02:50:42,060 --> 02:50:45,510
must sacrifice the money needed
for a second child to

2841
02:50:45,510 --> 02:50:48,000
financially help their elderly
parents.

2842
02:50:49,800 --> 02:50:55,080
And you know what? This all
happens? Well, 2030 30, baby,

2843
02:50:55,890 --> 02:50:56,970
and what are we calling it?

2844
02:50:58,500 --> 02:51:02,490
The China the Chinese disaster
of 2030? I don't know Chinese

2845
02:51:02,490 --> 02:51:05,910
population disaster of 2030.
Yeah, it would be good. Yeah, I

2846
02:51:05,910 --> 02:51:07,890
think that's a good 120 30

2847
02:51:08,580 --> 02:51:11,640
I have a different clip to play
us out with. And we have not

2848
02:51:11,640 --> 02:51:16,020
done Turkey. But this is
actually good. Because I have a

2849
02:51:16,020 --> 02:51:19,980
couple more things to study,
some some, some real crazy crap

2850
02:51:19,980 --> 02:51:25,830
is going down in Turkey as this,
the Gulenist versus the

2851
02:51:27,090 --> 02:51:35,190
essentially versus Erawan. Now
the Gulenist police force rated

2852
02:51:35,220 --> 02:51:39,690
the humanitarian relief
Foundation, which is a Turkish

2853
02:51:39,720 --> 02:51:43,050
non governmental organisation
known as the i Ah, ah, these are

2854
02:51:43,050 --> 02:51:48,780
the same guys who sent the
flotilla to Gaza, right. And the

2855
02:51:48,780 --> 02:51:52,050
Gulenists were against that to
start with. So now it's the

2856
02:51:52,050 --> 02:51:54,570
power play is getting pretty
obvious. But there's a couple

2857
02:51:54,570 --> 02:51:57,660
more things that I that I'm
looking into this is very, very

2858
02:51:57,660 --> 02:52:00,330
complicated because as a
Westerner, you know, the

2859
02:52:00,330 --> 02:52:04,500
culture, the understanding, the
Sunnis, the Shiites, the posts

2860
02:52:04,500 --> 02:52:08,160
of the Kalif, the caliphate, all
these, it's, I'm becoming a

2861
02:52:08,160 --> 02:52:13,920
student of this, and, um, it's
very, very hard to get a real

2862
02:52:13,920 --> 02:52:19,110
grasp on all of it. And, you
know, and, and I still think

2863
02:52:19,110 --> 02:52:23,550
it's got to be kind of our
standard operating procedure,

2864
02:52:23,550 --> 02:52:27,870
you know, it's like, we need to
have some form of control over

2865
02:52:27,870 --> 02:52:32,220
this very important geographic
area, because of the pipelines

2866
02:52:32,220 --> 02:52:35,100
and the train tracks that will
be going through it. And so we

2867
02:52:35,100 --> 02:52:39,690
just create a storm internally
and then, you know, then our guy

2868
02:52:39,690 --> 02:52:41,100
stands up, I guess. I think

2869
02:52:41,250 --> 02:52:45,690
that's kind of the way it works.
Yeah, we just leave rubble.

2870
02:52:46,020 --> 02:52:49,020
Yeah, but it's too important. I
don't think archy canopy left

2871
02:52:49,020 --> 02:52:50,850
and Rob and I don't think it's
gonna be left in rubble.

2872
02:52:51,660 --> 02:52:55,650
However, I do have a Nigel
Farraj clip from the European

2873
02:52:55,650 --> 02:52:58,920
Union. And I don't even have to
ask you, I know you love

2874
02:52:58,920 --> 02:53:06,360
listening to Nigel. Nigel batten
making plans for Nigel. And he

2875
02:53:07,350 --> 02:53:10,320
this is his welcome to the you
know, the the presidency of the

2876
02:53:10,320 --> 02:53:15,120
European Union changes. And And
just to add insult to injury,

2877
02:53:15,120 --> 02:53:19,200
Greece is now maintains the
presidency of the European

2878
02:53:19,200 --> 02:53:23,220
Union. And Nigel Farage is the
kind of guy who welcomes

2879
02:53:23,220 --> 02:53:25,140
everybody in with open arms.
Well, I must

2880
02:53:25,140 --> 02:53:27,600
congratulate you Mr. Samaras for
getting the Greek presidency off

2881
02:53:27,600 --> 02:53:31,410
to such a cracking start your
overnight successful negotiation

2882
02:53:31,410 --> 02:53:34,560
in the trial of our method, I'm
sure we'll have them dancing in

2883
02:53:34,560 --> 02:53:39,180
the streets of Athens, no matter
that your country, very poorly

2884
02:53:39,180 --> 02:53:42,690
advised by Goldman Sachs joined
a currency that it was never

2885
02:53:42,690 --> 02:53:47,100
suited to no matter that 30% are
unemployed, that 60% of youth

2886
02:53:47,250 --> 02:53:51,210
are unemployed, that a neo Nazi
party is on the march that there

2887
02:53:51,210 --> 02:53:54,810
was a terrorist attack on the
German Embassy. No, don't worry

2888
02:53:54,810 --> 02:53:57,540
about all that, because the
trial of our method has been a

2889
02:53:57,540 --> 02:54:02,340
success. And in many ways, it
sums up the two Europe's the

2890
02:54:02,340 --> 02:54:05,250
Europe that's talked about in
here by the dreamers, who wants

2891
02:54:05,250 --> 02:54:09,720
to impose a new United States of
Europe with an identity and a

2892
02:54:09,720 --> 02:54:13,050
currency and the real world out
there. And you come here, Mr.

2893
02:54:13,050 --> 02:54:17,460
Samaras. And you tell us that
you represent the sovereign will

2894
02:54:17,790 --> 02:54:21,630
of the Greek people? Well, I'm
sorry, but you're not in charge

2895
02:54:21,630 --> 02:54:25,200
of Greece. And I suggest you
rename and rebrand your party.

2896
02:54:25,500 --> 02:54:28,440
It's called New Democracy. I
suggest you call it no

2897
02:54:28,440 --> 02:54:33,450
democracy, because Greece is now
under foreign control. You can't

2898
02:54:33,450 --> 02:54:36,450
make any decisions. You've been
bailed out, and you've

2899
02:54:36,450 --> 02:54:40,410
surrendered democracy, the thing
your country invented in the

2900
02:54:40,410 --> 02:54:43,890
first place, and you can't admit
that joining the Euro was a

2901
02:54:43,890 --> 02:54:47,370
mistake, because of course, Mr.
Papandreou did that, didn't he?

2902
02:54:47,400 --> 02:54:50,130
He even said there should be a
referendum in Greece. And within

2903
02:54:50,130 --> 02:54:54,540
48 hours, the unholy trinity
that now run this European Union

2904
02:54:54,600 --> 02:54:58,140
had him removed and replaced by
an ex Goldman Sachs employee

2905
02:54:58,140 --> 02:55:03,630
puppet. We are On now by big
business, big banks, and then

2906
02:55:03,630 --> 02:55:07,170
the shape of mr. Barroso, big
bureaucrats. And actually,

2907
02:55:07,440 --> 02:55:10,650
that's what these European
elections are really going to be

2908
02:55:10,650 --> 02:55:13,920
all about. It's going to be a
battle of national democracy

2909
02:55:14,130 --> 02:55:19,350
versus EU state, bureaucracy.
Whatever you may say, in this

2910
02:55:19,350 --> 02:55:23,880
chamber, the people out there
don't want a United States of

2911
02:55:23,880 --> 02:55:27,480
Europe. They want a Europe of
sovereign states trading and

2912
02:55:27,480 --> 02:55:30,510
working together. And I believe
the European elections are going

2913
02:55:30,510 --> 02:55:34,680
to mark a watershed. Up until
now everybody has thought much

2914
02:55:34,680 --> 02:55:36,870
of they may not like the
development of the European

2915
02:55:36,870 --> 02:55:41,070
Union, that it was inevitable,
that myth of inevitability will

2916
02:55:41,070 --> 02:55:44,100
be shattered by the European
elections this year. Thank you.

2917
02:55:45,660 --> 02:55:48,930
I love it that he brings up the
Papa Andreas was replaced by

2918
02:55:48,930 --> 02:55:53,670
Goldman Sachs show within 48
hours. Oh, yeah. You forget, we

2919
02:55:53,670 --> 02:55:53,880
have

2920
02:55:53,880 --> 02:55:56,430
to remember that one of the
precepts of our show is that

2921
02:55:56,430 --> 02:55:58,890
this is all leading to a great
civil war.

2922
02:55:58,920 --> 02:56:01,950
Yes. Which may start in Turkey.

2923
02:56:02,910 --> 02:56:05,670
Oh, it's gonna start somewhere.
Yeah, that's why

2924
02:56:05,670 --> 02:56:08,400
we want to go to Europe this
summer and enjoy it while it

2925
02:56:08,400 --> 02:56:13,920
lasts. I think it's probably a
good idea. By the way. You heard

2926
02:56:13,920 --> 02:56:16,500
something in there, which one of
our producers caught and turned

2927
02:56:16,500 --> 02:56:19,980
me on to the big this new big
government big whatever he was

2928
02:56:19,980 --> 02:56:23,220
saying? I'm seeing this crop up
and climate change conversation

2929
02:56:23,220 --> 02:56:30,000
as well. Big heat, big rain, big
wind? Yeah, keep your eye out on

2930
02:56:30,000 --> 02:56:33,450
it's it's, this is the new
thing. It's big. Was it not too

2931
02:56:33,450 --> 02:56:40,050
big heat? Big heat. All right.
Yes. So I got I got my turkey

2932
02:56:40,050 --> 02:56:43,860
stuff for Sunday. Got some
vaccine stuff for the swine flu,

2933
02:56:43,860 --> 02:56:47,670
which is interesting. We have to
talk more about car probably

2934
02:56:49,020 --> 02:56:50,640
Central African Republic.

2935
02:56:52,170 --> 02:56:56,160
There's some good copyright
stuff. hearings on C span, which

2936
02:56:56,160 --> 02:56:58,950
I picked a couple of clips out
of. Oh, good, good, good, grand.

2937
02:56:59,910 --> 02:57:01,530
It's very interesting. Some of
the thinking,

2938
02:57:02,850 --> 02:57:06,720
Oh, I have some some good
scholastic legislation from New

2939
02:57:06,720 --> 02:57:09,900
York, which will knock your
socks off. All right, well,

2940
02:57:09,900 --> 02:57:12,000
good. So we have stuff to look
forward to. And of course,

2941
02:57:12,000 --> 02:57:14,070
there's always something new
that will crop up. It's what we

2942
02:57:14,070 --> 02:57:16,080
do. So you don't have to

2943
02:57:21,420 --> 02:57:26,220
just in time for the reboot a.
Let's get in. They're coming to

2944
02:57:26,220 --> 02:57:29,040
you from FEMA Region six here in
the capital of the drone star

2945
02:57:29,040 --> 02:57:31,260
states in the morning,
everybody. My name is Adam

2946
02:57:31,260 --> 02:57:31,680
curry,

2947
02:57:32,070 --> 02:57:34,410
and from Northern Silicon
Valley, where I expect my

2948
02:57:34,410 --> 02:57:37,740
machine to be auto rebooted.
Thank you, Microsoft. I'm John

2949
02:57:37,740 --> 02:57:38,400
C. Dvorak.

2950
02:57:38,430 --> 02:57:42,450
We'll talk to you again on
Sunday right here. On no agenda.

2951
02:57:43,590 --> 02:57:44,280
See you then.

2952
02:57:59,340 --> 02:58:13,380
George Clooney is a spy.org/n a