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Well wait a minute, let me
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you my sympathy with the
Ukrainians. Adam curry,

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John C. Dvorak. Thursday,
January 30 2014. Time for your

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donation media assassination
episode 587. This is no agenda,

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raising the bar on information
inequality from FEMA Region six

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here in the traverse high tide
on Lawson tea house in the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where I asked the proverbial

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question Would you pay $15.50
for a jumbo Gulf shrimp

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cocktail? I'm John C. Dvorak.
Greg Lawton, Buzzkill.

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I would not but I have in the
past. Seems a little steep. It's

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very steep. Where and was it?
Gulf Coast trim? Is that what

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you said?

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Well, this is the oyster menu
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Oyster Bar, Grand Central
Station, one of the great places

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to be quite good. Yeah.

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But this is from December
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consistently because I have a
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house. Yes. As archiving?

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You know, that will be a great
book one day.

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Well, would compare the prices
I'm sure. 2014 is even higher,

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just in general, I think it'd be
an interesting book to look at

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menus from the past. Yeah, menus
from the past with John C.

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Dvorak.

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The problem with RK archiving a
menu or two is that you, you end

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up with just a mishmash like
this? And it's nothing that it

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doesn't really it's not like a
good collection if I was if I

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was a collector, I knew what I
was doing I lectures Yes. From

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guys who do this who collect
menus, no feel that collect

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anything that you do delight,
you go to an antique and the

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dealer and the some guy's got a
great collection of some sort of

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plastic?

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John, John, you are a far cry
from an antique dealer, my

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friend.

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I don't get I don't come here to
be insulted. Yes, you do. So

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anyway, the or no, so Anywho.
The guy says, oh, yeah, no,

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you're if you're gonna collect
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complete collection as close to
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everything has to be in mint
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you're just fooling yourself.
You're an idiot. So you know, I

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don't have either one of those.
I don't meet either criteria.

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Well, idiot, you're not a
complete idiot. And in fact,

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neither of us are idiots. I
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how long had it not rained in
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about six months, and we shook

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our rain sticks and what
happened? It rained. I got I

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must have at least 10 reports of
rain. I have people sending me

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satellite images of rain over
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We need more rain better kick
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Let's do it again. And we got
rainstick for California. We did

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a little bit in Austin too, by
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To get rid of some of the cedar
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have to say I'm at you know
these rain sticks. They're not

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going to be messed around with
and luckily we are licenced rain

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stick professionals. You know,
they could go horribly

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and made brain sticks Utah. from
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We are licenced professionals
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obviously. Moreover, they work
I'm using moreover now more

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often.

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Well, it's better than so. Oh,
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use it again. In his speech in
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another moreover.

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Yes, I know. I heard that. I was
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heard it as I thought the same
thing. I'm sure you thought

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there are a mess most of our
listeners. Uh huh. There's using

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they're using Microsoft Word.

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Microsoft Word the Presidential
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You know, it's interesting,
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the we watched it, as we also
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appropriately said she felt
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Isn't whenever we watch
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about on television, you always
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Well the Grammys were
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I know what the what the problem
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said that she had sold her her
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obvious why she you know the
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and had the dark horse of death
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losing their touch. And here's
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so integrated now with with the
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they perform and then there's a
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you know, pink is as a
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has a commercial and then
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MasterCard Justin Timberlake had
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had two commercials. It's so
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anymore. You can't get a good
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of the commercials are in the
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Perry thing this was a the the
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because this thing was a pre
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movie with Angelina Jolie exact
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of blood on her.

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number showed up. We had the
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couples in a mass wedding. I

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know everybody tweeted about
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I have to say I was really
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they had just had the dead
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know if you've had this January.

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There's a lot of I don't know, I
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people left off the dead
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Well, here's what happened.
Polly Anthony shows up on the

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dead list. And Polly Anthony was
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major record label female
executives and I knew her quite

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well from my New York radio
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name like Polly Anthony right
there you know you're cool. And

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she was kind of MILFy kind of
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the girl executive who really
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sure you made sure that you know
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industry very well and I had no
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59 You know pancreatic cancer
some bullshit like that. And it

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really shocked me I don't I
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first deadlifts maybe you
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that a certain point you get to
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year anyways yeah okay, so I
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you know some other people you
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or I've interviewed, then you
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kind of from a personal level.
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just went oh man, this blows if
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I always says see somebody that
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two reactions one is ah, I
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know then you look them up and
find their ad and it's not that

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right. And then the other one is
the other one is I and this is

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the reaction I normally get and
then when you get older you'll

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get this one too a lot. Wow, I
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that's okay. I don't have that
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reaction was oh man Polly died.
This is horrible. I didn't know

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and it turns out she died at the
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never knew and so now I feel
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you know when my daughter was
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I mean this is kind of you know,
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friendship. Then the second
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said if I die before you i You
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dead segment I want my own full
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two other people I wish that
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to I want to do that with the
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I want a full frame and I and I
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Yeah, you're gonna get it.

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I want a little a little audio
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Man oh man. How bad is that he
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Screw it. I actually had when I
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who these people were and they
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you couldn't read the next frame
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is terrible. And the 33 mean
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also comes up in the in the
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But wait wait before you go
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and does kind of tie into
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about Russia. Is this is the CBS
CBS I can't do it. CBS No, we

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got CBS network. And they
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to show something but the minute
these 33 couples are going to

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see all their love with a kiss
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and women on women and kisses.

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They cut away I saw a couple
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No you did not see any gay
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true. There may be in you think
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it. And and and I would like to
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the network that was fined
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Jackson's nipple to children.

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That was ABC.

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No, it was the Super Bowl. We'll
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CBS Super Bowl. Maybe it was
ABC. I thought it was genius. I

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look it up. Anyway, yeah, it was
the the the Grammys what's Ken

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Ehrlich? Now I've worked with
Ken Ehrlich. He's the director.

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He's the writer. He's the
producer. He's a dick. We've

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talked about him before. He's an
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He's old fashioned. Give it to
the Ryan Seacrest, give it to

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some new girls but

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totally kick ass

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give it to some new guy who's
gonna next Dick Clark well, he

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they better give this to why he
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I think that he does with de
Klerk stuff. But they but the

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Grammys should totally give this
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get it away from Ken Ehrlich.
I'm gonna retire. Anyway. Okay,

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so there was the Jeep about all
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Disney movie, and the songs all
sucked Malik Malik. Maleficent.

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Is that if what a stupid title.
That's the new Disney movie with

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Angelina Jolie? Maleficent.
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Maleficent?

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Like, yeah, no, I have no, if
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you look at the trailer for
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the Grammys, as a commercial,
you'll see that that's totally

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Katy Perry's performance. You
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do a good good devil worship
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All right, CBS.

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The Janet Jackson. Yeah, I
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then we had the the State of the
Union address. And I was quite

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surprised how many people
emailed me. And I wasn't going

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to get any clips from it. And
now, you know, because what do

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you expect? First of all, we
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according to the Nielsen who
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the State of the Union. So we
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the mind. I mean,

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please, can you give us a magic
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tell us with all this?

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That's what I was. Well, you
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I have I pulled a couple of
quick clips just to make some

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points. Is there anything you
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this, this speech? Well,

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I got a kick out of this part.

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Did you What did you I watched
the span what coverage Did you

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I've watched either a CNN to CNN
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in this case, CNN had Wolf
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and this guy, I don't know what
he's on, but he just could not

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stop talking. So they'll get
Let's be quiet now. Where they

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where they're going to announce
the President is going to say

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the president's name and the
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the President be walking down
the aisle and we're gonna we're

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gonna make some of the people on
the outside everyone. Hear what

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the President says to these
people on the aisle. And when

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the president and he talks over
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What I what I really miss, and
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course, we had an ice day, the
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Austin froze, essentially. Yeah,
this was kind of nice that this

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happen. So we stayed inside the
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watching. Like, where's the word
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where's the red carpet event?
Shouldn't we have Kelly Osborne

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and then that's the fat gay guy.
Should they be doing like

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fashion stuff? Because Wow, you
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Hey, I love you yellow outfit.
Oh, your orange is great. Oh,

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purple is all the rage. Who
gives the WHO styles these

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women? It is the most atrocious.
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Well, what have you spent you?
Can you imagine watching this

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and then seeing a bunch of women
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prints? I mean, come on. Well,
you know. Yeah, the guy's got to

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be dressed like Prince. I don't
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By the way. Did you see Taylor
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the Grammys?

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Probably when she was standing
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Yeah, she kind of ruined it with
a dancing but man she looks good

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in that dress. Oh my god. And
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Especially. Deb she's got the
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working on her especially when
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the orgasmic headshaking What
the hell was that? That was

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a break her neck? That was

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we have you seen the there's a
video floating around? Where?

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What is the it's the console
game where you're you're

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fighting with? You're doing kung
fu kicks, and I've played it 100

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years ago, ever anyway, so one
of these characters drops in the

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frame and starts kicking her in
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goes back. It's very funny.
Okay, back to the State of the

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Union. And all the atrocious.
America should just

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you asked me a question. You
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dummy. No wonder the

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world hates us. Just look at
what our politics our female

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politicians are wearing. No
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looks so weird. Here's what
God's got to me. There's a one

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moment it's early in the speech
where he decides that he's going

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to he's going to tell he's
already been doing executive

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orders left and right, even
though they say he hasn't done

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that many. And I don't have the
numbers, but whatever the case

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is, he says, he says he's tired
of Congress's do nothing.

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Congress hasn't done anything.
So he's going to take matters

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into his own hands as a
dictator. And he's going to

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start using his pan and his
phone to get things done,

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because he is the president and
he's screw Congress. They give

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him a standing,

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oh, well, half of the audience
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for one thing, they should have
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No, this is very interesting.
You know, when the President

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goes, does these president the
Democratic Party fundraisers,

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there's never any audio or video
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always releases a transcript,
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you have no context. But I
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And for the past, a while months
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couple months, everywhere he
goes. The crowd at these

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fundraisers are cheering,
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Yeah, we could just show him
show him these as well show him.

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This is a big thing amongst the
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really, really, really want him
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executive orders. So I'm gonna
say it's not him. The entire

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Democratic Party really wants a
dictator. Well, they will

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whatever they want. They want to
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If the Republicans were in
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chanting the same crap horse, of
course, but he should be he

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should be immediately impeached.
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he hasn't done anything yet. He
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after the just for threatening
right after the, I don't want to

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jump ahead because you have some
clips from the speech, we'll get

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back to you. But I think we
should at least the next day. He

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goes out and I think he's a
little more blunt about it with

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this clip, I have Obama. He goes
to Costco. Yeah, he will. He

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mentioned Costco didn't he in
the speech. And then he goes to

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Costco, and he gives a speech at
Costco to the employees. And I

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guess anyone wandering around

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headquarters in his State of the
Union. Last night, President

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Obama spoke of opportunity for
everybody promising to issue an

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executive order to increase the
minimum wage for new federal

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employees. Today, he took his
message on the road, at a Costco

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in Maryland, the President said
he wants to give America a

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raise, and won't wait. If the
House and Senate hold things up.

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America can't just stand still,
if Congress isn't doing

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anything, I'm not gonna stand
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take steps to expand opportunity
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it with or without Congress.

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Now, this is about the 1010
minimum wage for federal

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contractors. This is not about
anything else than that. Which

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is I mean, of course, I looked
into Article Two, which is about

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of the Constitution, you always
have to kind of refresh your

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memory, about, you know, how the
executive orders work. And there

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is no specific mention of an
executive order in the

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Constitution. However, the in
Article Two there and this has

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been going on since Wow, George
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orders, if it is if it pertains
to the Constitution and the rule

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of law being followed, which is
him. This is a very broad

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interpretation. And remember
that just about everybody in

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politics these days is a lawyer.
So there's a lot of lawyering

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around this. And it can be
struck down. I mean, there's

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there have been executive orders
that have been struck down in

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the past and the Supreme Court
can look at these but you're

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looking at half the country.
Well, more than half the country

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51% of the country that votes.
Who really want this they they

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they want Germans wanted Hitler.
Well, I want this. Okay, you are

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jumping ahead now. But let's
talk about this. This is the a

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meme that is running around
about inequality. And I have

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been paying very close attention
to this and what caught my eye

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specifically, was an article and
a letter sent into thick The

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Wall Street Journal, by Tom
Perkins. Uh, Tom Perkins is a

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very famous Silicon Valley
venture capitalist or he kind of

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was that his name is still on
the Kleiner Perkins Caulfield

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buyers door. And, of course,
I've raised a lot of money from

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my previous combos or previous
company with them. A baton

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person Just not not a part of
it.

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And he's still a part owner.

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Oh, yeah. But he but they. So he
sent this letter to The Wall

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Street Journal. And it was kind
of was based on his ex wife

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Danielle Steel,

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filling about a power couple.

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She sold him she sold about a
billion books, a billion with a

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beat loaded.

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She has one of the biggest
mansions in San Fran she is

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the most successful fiction
writer of our time. And she was

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apparently I haven't read the
piece but she was pulled apart

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by the Sanford's, I believe by
the Chronicle. And she's a

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horrible person. She's a rich
snob and who does she think she

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is. And of course, there's no
mention that she is a huge

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philanthropist and has given
away a lot of money to all kinds

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of good causes. And then Tom
Perkins, I guess he they're

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divorced, but he still likes
her, they get along and said, I

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got a defender and say hold on a
second. This is very dangerous.

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And I kind of got into this and
I started researching. He says,

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It's very dangerous when 99% of
the population start hating 1%.

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Now what he's doing here is he's
taking the 99% versus the 1%

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meme of Occupy Wall Street. And
he is saying and he actually

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specifically equated it to Nazi
Germany. Yeah, well, yeah. But

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I'd be you know what I've looked
into this, and he has, I think

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he has a point. And I really
liked what he was saying. He's

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saying, in the 30s, it was the
Jews who, in fact, it this is

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well known the Germans at the
nationalistic Germans known as

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the Nazis and the Nazi Party,
the Nationalist Party, I talked

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about the stab in the back. And
the stab in the back was the

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according then to what was
reported and written and spoken

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about, where the Jews who ran
the banks and the stock market,

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and that they had, they being
the Jews had rigged the war, the

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financing of the war, and
Germany had lost World War One.

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And moreover, they were
responsible for the Bolshevik

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Revolution. And, of course, then
we got Kristallnacht. And this

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is the end, though. So Perkins
got his ass handed to him by the

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anti Defamation League is what
happens if you say, if you're in

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mainstream, and you say anything
about Jews, immediately, you get

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called and called out, and it's
a horrible it's happened to me

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is a very, very horrible
experience. So this happened to

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him.

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And he said, all what happened
to you again, the way your head

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and whatever, I

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really don't give a shit,
because there's nothing can go,

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nothing can happen to me, I have
no skin in the game. And they

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can't take away any advertisers.
But his point is, at the time,

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and this is his equation, the 1%
Actually, if you look at

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Wikipedia is 0.86% of the
population were Jews, and the

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Jews were running the financial
industry. And they got

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persecuted. Because, you know,
they had apparently used their

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financial power to ruin Germany.
This is his equation. And if

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you've searched around on the
internet, you can find this

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story. And of course, I wasn't
there. And I have no idea really

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what the facts are. But it's not
something that's taught in

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school, necessarily. People just
say, well, Hitler hated Jews,

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and he started killing him and
all the Germans were in on it,

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there's probably a little more
backstory to it. It's just a

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little more, just a little more,

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there's more to it, obviously,
but that generality is not is

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not wrong.

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But there but someone started a
spark. There was a reason why

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the Jews were so hated that they
went to kick the gas them, John,

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you think they're gonna get you
thinking mob is finally going to

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form and go to Hillsborough? And
well, well, well, well rounded

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up the rich put their heads on a
stick? Well,

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if you listen, if the President
of the United States in a state

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of the union is pounding on
about inequality, and what is it

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what what does it actually mean?
To people are saying everything

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is shit in our country? Because
the richest 1% are hoarding all

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the money? Yes, yes. Yes. I
think you're not far off from

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people saying that would be
something to see from you're not

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far off from saying people who
are rich are the problem and we

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need to gas them.

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No, see, this is this is where I
go off in another road. Okay, we

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need to develop a wealth tax and
the problem is solved. But go on

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with your thing.

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Oh, no, that's not my thing. I'm
making an analysis here. Here's

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I pulled a little clip from Tom
Perkins. When he went to explain

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this on

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Bloomberg, how do you see this
divide? Playing out.

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Now that as the messenger I've
been shot, I think at least read

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the message.

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But you just said at the
beginning of this that you were

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gone, you regret

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regret the use of that word.

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The word is crystal enough that
he regrets using that equating

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the Occupy Wall Street people to
Nazis who went and, and and

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trashed all Jewish shops, banks
and synagogues

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was a terrible misjudgment. I
don't regret the message at all.

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In fact, what is the message?
The message is anytime the

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majority starts to demonise a
minority, no matter what it is.

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It's wrong and dangerous, and no
good ever comes from it? What's

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the solution? Well, first to
understand the problem. Be aware

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of it. That's why I wrote the
letter. And I don't apologise

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for writing the letter. I should
not have used that awful word.

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But the letter said what I
believe and I believe we have to

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be careful that we don't
demonise a anybody. And we

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certainly don't demonise the
most creative part of our

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society.

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Now, let me understand, John,
you saying wealth tax is the

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solution. I don't think it's the
solution at all the wealth tax

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is not going to raise anyone's
standard of living it's only

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going to be put into the
government to be squandered on a

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military

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anyone who pays income taxes
standard of living in one second

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once it's passed is instant.
What do you mean standard of

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living is increased?

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How do you how do you how do you
figure that

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you're making $100,000 a year
let's say and you're being taxed

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at a 30% rate so you're taking
home 70,000 Once a wealth tax is

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enforced, your income tax is
going to drop probably at least

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by half to about 15,000 your
your standard of living goes up

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immediately.

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Mice my standard of living

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goes oh I'm just saying the
theoretical person that makes

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$100,000 a year now

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that's bullcrap that makes no
sense.

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What do you mean it makes no
sense what are you talking

446
00:27:14,790 --> 00:27:15,150
about?

447
00:27:15,450 --> 00:27:21,810
So if you tax a billionaires 50%
of their income you're telling

448
00:27:21,810 --> 00:27:22,200
me it's gonna

449
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,990
make it you're talking about
we're talking about one 2%

450
00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:29,010
Yeah billionaires That's what I
said. If you want you tax them

451
00:27:29,010 --> 00:27:30,420
1% More okay.

452
00:27:30,659 --> 00:27:34,709
Oh you tax them like 1% of their
wealth to write and then where

453
00:27:34,709 --> 00:27:37,859
does that money go? What's
what's is different to some

454
00:27:37,859 --> 00:27:41,039
make? What do you mean where it
goes where all the money goes?

455
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:44,519
Where same place it goes now
Okay, so yeah, it's not you're

456
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:48,749
not gouging people earning an
income by taking their their

457
00:27:48,779 --> 00:27:51,719
hard earned money away from them
for actually working. Okay. So

458
00:27:51,719 --> 00:27:55,979
we will have established wealth
let me understand it's not it's

459
00:27:55,979 --> 00:27:59,099
doing nothing for anybody and
they're demanding to be taxed

460
00:27:59,099 --> 00:27:59,639
more May I

461
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,810
ask you a question? Are you
saying that if we tax the the

462
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,640
the 1% that we can then
alleviate taxes on the 99% it

463
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,600
gets taxed?

464
00:28:10,020 --> 00:28:15,000
Everybody gets taxed the same?
Yes. Okay. A wealth tax right. I

465
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,930
get it and but your mistake is
you think that the person who

466
00:28:18,930 --> 00:28:22,260
was poor is going is not going
to benefit from that.

467
00:28:22,949 --> 00:28:27,329
Yeah, they are. How is that
gonna pay any taxes?

468
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:30,480
Oh, you so you're saying there's
no tax we only have a wealth

469
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,010
tax. Yes.

470
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:36,570
There's no income tax. That's
the that's the killer.

471
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,240
Oh, that's not the same as just
saying wealth tax. You're saying

472
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,650
a wealth tax system. When so if
you're wealthy, then you get

473
00:28:43,650 --> 00:28:46,440
taxed in America. That's what
you're saying. You pinko you

474
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,580
pinko commie.

475
00:28:48,690 --> 00:28:50,700
It's what they do in
Switzerland. Is that a communist

476
00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:51,030
nation?

477
00:28:52,140 --> 00:28:57,630
With with with a monarchy?
Output, please. No, no, no,

478
00:28:57,630 --> 00:28:59,430
John, John, Jonah. This

479
00:28:59,460 --> 00:29:02,100
Okay, wait, well, let's let's
back up with you in this idea.

480
00:29:02,220 --> 00:29:05,640
First of all, Tom Perkins is an
out and out douchebag of the

481
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,810
highest order period. I agree.
And he comes out with this

482
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,790
arrogant crap is no American
thing. I feel like I should say

483
00:29:14,790 --> 00:29:18,420
something because oh, I'm being
put upon Oh, my God, I could be.

484
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,020
I could be strung up tomorrow by
an angry mob, which is never

485
00:29:22,020 --> 00:29:24,180
going to happen in a million
years. And he's got places all

486
00:29:24,180 --> 00:29:27,330
over the world to retreat to
have he has this horrible

487
00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:30,810
problem that's facing him. And
he comes out with this nonsense,

488
00:29:30,930 --> 00:29:35,280
a piece of crap article, which
is excoriated by everybody in

489
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:38,970
coding his own company, Kleiner
Perkins. It has to come out and

490
00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:42,990
say, Oh, my God, this guy had
our own founders and idiots. We

491
00:29:43,020 --> 00:29:45,870
just disavow ourselves from this
whole thing. And you're

492
00:29:45,870 --> 00:29:46,920
defending it?

493
00:29:47,610 --> 00:29:50,460
i Yeah, I'm not defending
everything. I'm saying it's

494
00:29:50,460 --> 00:29:53,790
worth listening to what he's
saying. And by the way, a tweet

495
00:29:53,790 --> 00:29:57,930
from Kleiner Perkins, PR is not
the same as John Doerr staying

496
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,590
standing up and saying this is
bullcrap that's not exactly the

497
00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:05,250
same thing as John Doerr. Well,
you should ask John what

498
00:30:05,250 --> 00:30:07,200
he's gonna say. He's gonna say
it's bullcrap.

499
00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:12,870
What I'm saying is when you have
the president of America,

500
00:30:13,770 --> 00:30:19,650
pushing the equality mean, what
does that mean? Forget Tom

501
00:30:19,650 --> 00:30:23,130
Perkins. What is the President
saying with that? He's saying

502
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,020
America's unfair, that the rich
people only get richer. Is that

503
00:30:28,020 --> 00:30:30,000
what he's saying? I just want to
understand

504
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,060
what he said in 2008. Why would
he change his tune?

505
00:30:33,090 --> 00:30:38,610
Right? Do you not see that there
could be a danger in that? of

506
00:30:38,610 --> 00:30:44,730
persecution? Of I'm going to
say, Please, listen to me. You.

507
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,450
Okay, you're you're you're
trying to break this argument by

508
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,040
by rolling your eyes.

509
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,530
But I think they're,

510
00:30:53,640 --> 00:31:00,120
yeah, they're rusty. But I think
there is a valid point that you

511
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,790
need to look at history. What
happens when you persecute a

512
00:31:02,790 --> 00:31:06,990
small group of people who in
this case happened to be mainly

513
00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:07,860
Jews?

514
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,740
No, they're not. Yes, they are.
A Jew liner. One door is not a

515
00:31:13,740 --> 00:31:14,280
Jew,

516
00:31:14,490 --> 00:31:18,300
John, in general, they're
talking. This is about bankers.

517
00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:20,910
But I'm no friend of the
bankers. I'm just looking at

518
00:31:20,910 --> 00:31:24,990
history and saying, oh, that's
an interesting point. Then then

519
00:31:24,990 --> 00:31:27,420
maybe we should go back. And
maybe you should tell me how did

520
00:31:27,420 --> 00:31:32,400
Hitler get an entire nation to
hate this small as 0.8% of the

521
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,900
population so much so that they
gassed them to death? How was

522
00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:38,070
that? How did that happen?

523
00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:41,160
It was a complex sociology at
the time. Do

524
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,710
you think we have a complex
sociology right now?

525
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:48,150
Let's put it this way. I don't
think the rich are going to

526
00:31:48,150 --> 00:31:51,420
suffer or even have a potential
of suffering the fate of the

527
00:31:51,420 --> 00:31:55,170
Jews in Germany during World War
Two. I don't even think it comes

528
00:31:55,170 --> 00:32:00,210
close. I think this is just rich
people whining, okay.

529
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,210
I am not on the road. They

530
00:32:03,210 --> 00:32:07,560
don't love us. Oh, I'm not a
loved person for all. All the

531
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,810
good. I've done. I'm not nobody
loves me.

532
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,420
Okay, let's take this a little
further look at what's actually

533
00:32:12,420 --> 00:32:16,140
happening. To the people who
work at the rich people's

534
00:32:16,140 --> 00:32:22,230
companies. There is a growing
hatred for people who take the

535
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:26,280
Google bus or the Apple bus or
it will the people who are

536
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,640
pushed out of the neighbourhood
by Twitter by the gentrification

537
00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:37,140
of certain well established
areas of San Francisco, there is

538
00:32:37,140 --> 00:32:39,840
an actual hatred going on. Now.

539
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,170
I'm not buying it. You're not
buying the hatred as a true a

540
00:32:43,170 --> 00:32:47,430
created pile of crap done by
extortionist much like you'd see

541
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:50,490
with the rainbow coalition that
are way soon as they get their

542
00:32:50,490 --> 00:32:53,640
pay off from Google and Twitter
and all these other guys, they

543
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,890
get a little money under the
table, this will go away

544
00:32:55,890 --> 00:32:56,880
overnight. I

545
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,350
hope so. I really do.

546
00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:01,170
It's an extortion racket.

547
00:33:01,530 --> 00:33:06,750
Hmm. Okay. Well, I want to
register that I feel that you

548
00:33:06,750 --> 00:33:11,430
need to look at some history and
that I do not like, I personally

549
00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:14,370
forget Tom Perkins. Do not I
don't lay awake at night

550
00:33:14,370 --> 00:33:20,940
thinking about Tom Perkins. I do
not like when my president is

551
00:33:20,940 --> 00:33:28,350
bitching about income
inequality. You know, this is

552
00:33:28,350 --> 00:33:32,550
not this, this country is an
experiment and we set it up a

553
00:33:32,550 --> 00:33:36,540
certain way. And that's part of
it. And here's the difference

554
00:33:36,540 --> 00:33:38,490
between our president of the
State of the Union and our

555
00:33:38,490 --> 00:33:41,760
President. As he was running for
reelection,

556
00:33:41,790 --> 00:33:44,880
Americans understand that some
people will earn more money than

557
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,000
others. And we don't resent
those who by virtue of their

558
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,420
efforts,

559
00:33:48,659 --> 00:33:51,779
have you stopped for a second
stop? You know, have you noticed

560
00:33:51,779 --> 00:33:54,419
this throughout the speech? When
did you start picking up this

561
00:33:54,419 --> 00:33:58,499
habit of talking like this?
Every so often, he'll say, and

562
00:33:58,499 --> 00:34:02,249
then which people? Is this like
George Bush used to do that? If

563
00:34:02,249 --> 00:34:03,899
he did you notice this in the
speech?

564
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:06,630
Many times, well, there's a Cup
trophy, there's a couple of

565
00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:09,600
things that we need to talk
about. But so this, I've clicked

566
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,860
this together, of him at the
State of the Union, and then

567
00:34:13,860 --> 00:34:16,200
have him in running for
reelection.

568
00:34:16,229 --> 00:34:19,319
Americans understand that some
people will earn more money than

569
00:34:19,319 --> 00:34:22,409
others. And we don't resent
those who by virtue of their

570
00:34:22,409 --> 00:34:25,229
efforts, achieved incredible
success. If you've got a

571
00:34:25,229 --> 00:34:29,789
business that you didn't build
that somebody else made that

572
00:34:29,789 --> 00:34:30,149
happen.

573
00:34:30,179 --> 00:34:34,109
So we're in when did that
happen? This switch? I remember

574
00:34:34,109 --> 00:34:36,449
quite quite, quite clearly you
didn't build that you're not

575
00:34:36,449 --> 00:34:40,829
successful. You built it on the
backs of other people. And now

576
00:34:40,829 --> 00:34:42,989
it's Oh, no, it's the
difference.

577
00:34:43,139 --> 00:34:45,659
I think it's the same message.
Wow.

578
00:34:46,589 --> 00:34:48,959
Okay, well, we're gonna have to
disagree on this.

579
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,530
You don't think it's the same
message he's, he is he's again,

580
00:34:52,530 --> 00:34:55,710
excoriating the rich because
they're got all this money, and

581
00:34:55,710 --> 00:34:58,170
there's not there really
shouldn't be their money anyway,

582
00:34:58,170 --> 00:35:00,990
because it's all done on the
inside. struction all the crap

583
00:35:00,990 --> 00:35:02,880
that the government know, I
agree

584
00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:06,000
it's the same message, but the
words are different. He's

585
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,580
saying, Oh, no, this is a great
country where you can be as rich

586
00:35:08,580 --> 00:35:12,060
as you want, but not really. His
message is no, not really.

587
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,720
Well, he's always been had this
message is not unusual for him.

588
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:17,610
I think he's always been his I

589
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,090
just my point is this and this
is my point. He is anti rich

590
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:26,100
anti business. And except, of
course, when you know, when

591
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:29,400
you're willing to show up and
you have a fort, you had a $400

592
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,960
million truck company and then
he can you abuse you to pretend

593
00:35:34,110 --> 00:35:37,650
like you're some new
entrepreneur. Did you catch this

594
00:35:37,650 --> 00:35:41,370
with a Ford lady, this is this
is the piece that he talked

595
00:35:41,370 --> 00:35:42,450
about two years ago,

596
00:35:42,510 --> 00:35:46,380
as the auto industry came
roaring back. Andhra rush opened

597
00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:50,370
up a manufacturing firm in
Detroit. She knew that Ford

598
00:35:50,370 --> 00:35:53,370
needed parts for the best
selling truck in America. Watch,

599
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,410
and she knew how to make those
parts. Yeah,

600
00:35:55,890 --> 00:35:59,970
she best selling truck in
America. It's a Ford camera, I

601
00:35:59,970 --> 00:36:01,110
got the biggest kick out of

602
00:36:01,110 --> 00:36:04,530
that. So she already owned
before this before she opened

603
00:36:04,530 --> 00:36:09,240
her new CDM is the initial the
business before she already had

604
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:14,790
a $400 million dollar trucking
company. So this is just more at

605
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:18,780
least the guy talks out of both
two sides of the face. He loves

606
00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:22,680
having the elites around him and
paying for his campaign and

607
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,880
whatever else he needs money
for. But yet, screw the rich,

608
00:36:26,910 --> 00:36:30,990
which is a popular meme. And
it's a growing frustration,

609
00:36:30,990 --> 00:36:35,040
John, and I am going to agree in
general, with Tom Perkins

610
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,150
message that has to be in
America. I feel that has to be

611
00:36:39,180 --> 00:36:41,910
evaluated and looked at and we
do need to be a little careful

612
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:44,880
about that. And I hope I really
hope you're right. I hope it's

613
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,860
just a whole bunch of people who
are pressuring and want to get

614
00:36:49,860 --> 00:36:53,040
paid off, and then the whole
issue will go away. I don't see

615
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,340
it that easily. I don't see it
going away that simply.

616
00:36:59,220 --> 00:37:00,690
Well, when the economy
collapses, it

617
00:37:01,290 --> 00:37:04,890
seems when the economy collapse
collapses, that is what happened

618
00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:09,480
in 29. We had the same problem.
2829 It was people bitching

619
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,870
about the same thing. There's
was discrepancy, and then that

620
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:17,010
was corrected by the economy
itself. Not completely, but

621
00:37:17,010 --> 00:37:18,090
enough so that it but

622
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,520
I do not believe that. Who was
the president at the time

623
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:21,150
Roosevelt?

624
00:37:22,290 --> 00:37:23,040
In 28?

625
00:37:23,279 --> 00:37:27,929
Yeah, was the President Hoover,
Hoover. I do not believe Hoover

626
00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:35,339
was doing speeches saying, Yeah,
rich people suck. In times, like

627
00:37:35,339 --> 00:37:39,479
this is not the message. That's
not the right message. It's a

628
00:37:39,479 --> 00:37:43,469
dangerous message. And what is
rich, by the way, by many

629
00:37:43,469 --> 00:37:47,879
standards, you and I are
incredibly rich. Seriously,

630
00:37:48,060 --> 00:37:50,190
we're rich and spirit, Adam,
rich in spirit.

631
00:37:50,850 --> 00:37:54,060
Blow me Devorah. Like, okay,
fine. Let me ask you another

632
00:37:54,060 --> 00:38:00,030
question. Why does our
government and apparently a lot

633
00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:05,160
of people, why are we all in on
pre kindergarten? Do we really

634
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,970
need to send our children this
training?

635
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:11,100
This is a great question.

636
00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:16,680
Slave training, the children who
are younger than five need

637
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:25,050
government financed? Start
education. No, no, I do not

638
00:38:25,050 --> 00:38:30,930
believe children need to go to
some. Sure. Five,

639
00:38:31,050 --> 00:38:34,230
most students do not need to go
to kindergarten. It's that's

640
00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:37,200
where it begins. White do it
earlier. No, I agree with this

641
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,890
1,000%. Why don't we just here,
do it like this part and choose

642
00:38:40,890 --> 00:38:44,370
to do the kids born, you grab
them from the mom, and you put

643
00:38:44,370 --> 00:38:47,370
him into a state run institution
from day one and teach them to

644
00:38:47,370 --> 00:38:48,840
be a trained killer?

645
00:38:49,530 --> 00:38:53,610
Exactly, or whatever with Common
Core God knows. Which The

646
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,910
President also hype without
actually saying it? Yes. Oh,

647
00:38:56,910 --> 00:39:00,630
great. The governors are all in
state led initiatives. No, no,

648
00:39:00,630 --> 00:39:04,860
your children are being trained
to be. And maybe it's the right

649
00:39:04,860 --> 00:39:08,100
way to go. I don't know if
you're gonna have an equality

650
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:11,070
state anyway, you might as well
have everyone just be you know

651
00:39:11,070 --> 00:39:13,920
what? I think the matrix comes
into play. We just need to

652
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,520
figure out a way to pump human
resources with enough food and

653
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,000
hook up electrodes. So they just
provide electricity. And just

654
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,130
have you stay at home and watch
television.

655
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,980
So we look at this speech as a I
don't know what was what was

656
00:39:28,980 --> 00:39:31,650
your takeaway? They use a
Silicon Valley terminology

657
00:39:31,650 --> 00:39:33,720
brought up the venture capital
community. What was your

658
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:38,550
takeaway from this speech? Did
it save Obama's career and make

659
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:42,450
him a great man because because
some people in the media seem to

660
00:39:42,450 --> 00:39:45,300
think so. Ah,

661
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,840
I need to talk about two more
things to give you my final wrap

662
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,570
up. The first one is this but
the

663
00:39:51,570 --> 00:39:55,860
debate is settled. Climate
change is a fact. And when our

664
00:39:55,860 --> 00:39:59,700
children's children look us in
the eye and ask if we did all we

665
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:03,180
could To leave them a safer,
more stable world with new

666
00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:06,450
sources of energy, I want us to
be able to say yes, we did.

667
00:40:07,830 --> 00:40:10,710
I want to say something I agree
with the President on this.

668
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,660
Climate change is a fact.

669
00:40:14,370 --> 00:40:16,620
global cooling. And what

670
00:40:16,620 --> 00:40:20,250
he did not say is manmade
climate change is a fact. The

671
00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:22,500
guy's very, it's always
changing. Yes, thank you. The

672
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:27,150
guy's very slick, very, very,
very slick. He had no problem

673
00:40:27,150 --> 00:40:32,220
saying that. I two things I
looked something up. Because

674
00:40:32,250 --> 00:40:37,200
there's two things that really,
really, really bothered me. And

675
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,040
the first one is for the
president who I don't, I believe

676
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,060
he is an atheist.

677
00:40:43,530 --> 00:40:47,700
To brought this up on the show
sometime back and we're pretty

678
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:50,820
convinced of this. He never goes
to church doesn't care.

679
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:56,160
So he winds up his speech with
God bless America. He always

680
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,580
does, which I find to be
hypocritical. But okay, this

681
00:40:59,580 --> 00:41:05,220
actually started in 1973, with
Richard Nixon before that, no

682
00:41:05,220 --> 00:41:09,030
president ever did this. Right.
This is true, and I didn't

683
00:41:09,060 --> 00:41:15,180
realise that and it is. It is
just a marketing ploy. Though,

684
00:41:15,210 --> 00:41:19,410
again, initiated by Nixon, and
it the I would say most people

685
00:41:19,410 --> 00:41:23,010
who use this term God bless
America, God bless these not

686
00:41:23,010 --> 00:41:27,900
using these United States are
hypocritical, atheist pricks.

687
00:41:28,290 --> 00:41:31,260
And they're just using it to
sucker anybody in who might

688
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:37,290
somehow believe in this or who
actually believe in it. But in

689
00:41:37,290 --> 00:41:41,490
general, it's a marketing ploy.
And it's sad. It's sad,

690
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,900
specially since Richard Nixon
started it. What does that tell

691
00:41:45,900 --> 00:41:49,260
you? If you're still doing it?
Now? Now,

692
00:41:49,290 --> 00:41:50,760
you can't get rid of it now.

693
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:52,290
Now, here is not

694
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:55,890
before you go on. Yeah, it's
done. It's a done deal. This is

695
00:41:55,890 --> 00:41:58,680
like the little I don't know if
you remember the flag, the flag

696
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:03,690
on the lapel a scandal,
apparently, was Obama one day he

697
00:42:03,690 --> 00:42:05,190
didn't put his little flag on

698
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:07,200
his lapel. Yeah, he wasn't
patriotic.

699
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,400
So there was just everybody was
all over it. I gotta watch.

700
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,550
What's the flag doing there in
case he gets shot down oversight

701
00:42:14,580 --> 00:42:18,930
Vietnam? I mean, what do we know
he's an American he knows is the

702
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,690
President for God. This is like
the badges that these tests

703
00:42:21,690 --> 00:42:22,800
these general generals

704
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:28,620
were okay, good. I'm glad you
got to that point. I am so sad

705
00:42:29,730 --> 00:42:34,860
to see our representatives of
government. And, and I'm pretty

706
00:42:34,860 --> 00:42:38,790
confident most people who the 33
point 3 million people who watch

707
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:43,950
this speech, the longest
applause and it wasn't like we

708
00:42:43,950 --> 00:42:49,170
hadn't had 15 Or maybe 20
cutaway shots of this poor boy

709
00:42:49,170 --> 00:42:53,310
who's half his head got blown
off in Afghanistan. And we're

710
00:42:53,310 --> 00:42:57,990
all standing and applauding and
we're tearing up for the fact

711
00:42:57,990 --> 00:43:01,710
that this country sends its
children to get half their heads

712
00:43:01,710 --> 00:43:06,000
blown off in a country we have
no business why are we there to

713
00:43:06,210 --> 00:43:10,680
rip off poppy fields for drugs
and oil pipelines and minerals

714
00:43:10,770 --> 00:43:13,380
and pretend that we're
protecting the homeland. It

715
00:43:13,380 --> 00:43:18,030
disgusts me. And I come from a
long line of uniforms and people

716
00:43:18,030 --> 00:43:21,720
in in in government agencies,
who I consider to be extremely

717
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:26,700
patriotic, but the way this is
now being used for this bogus,

718
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:33,060
bullshit war. Really, really no,
I got very angry and very sad

719
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,320
about oh, because he's there in
some other athletes. Some

720
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,690
Afghani kid blew his head off,
because he didn't know what the

721
00:43:39,690 --> 00:43:42,990
fuck that American kid was doing
there. It made me really sad

722
00:43:42,990 --> 00:43:45,660
that this is what we're
applauding, and it was misused

723
00:43:45,690 --> 00:43:49,350
by this administration to cover
up all the other crap that is

724
00:43:49,350 --> 00:43:53,220
going wrong. So we can all feel
good about our men and women who

725
00:43:53,220 --> 00:43:56,490
are thank you for your service.
Second thing

726
00:44:00,330 --> 00:44:03,570
do you think there become a day
it seems to me it's it should be

727
00:44:03,570 --> 00:44:06,450
now where they just don't do
this speech.

728
00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:10,560
There's no actual reason to do
it other than marketing.

729
00:44:10,860 --> 00:44:14,190
I think there's something in the
law are in the hands or make a

730
00:44:14,190 --> 00:44:14,820
report

731
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,000
to Congress. It doesn't have to
be on television. It doesn't

732
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,080
have to be televised, it

733
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,440
can be spoken words, it can be
just sent out as a memo.

734
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:25,860
In fact, it is supposed it has
by constitutional law, it has to

735
00:44:25,860 --> 00:44:29,850
be written. According to Article
Two,

736
00:44:30,330 --> 00:44:34,050
I find that this be it bothers
me and that it just I think that

737
00:44:34,050 --> 00:44:37,590
thing is gratuitous. I think
it's it's out of date. It's not

738
00:44:37,590 --> 00:44:40,350
necessary. I don't see any
reason why every network in the

739
00:44:40,350 --> 00:44:42,780
world has to put it on or
they're going to feel like

740
00:44:42,930 --> 00:44:44,640
people are going to condemn
because you know what would

741
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,670
happen if CBS actually ran as
normal schedule on a Tuesday

742
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:52,140
night with NCIS NCIS LA and
persons of interest? It would

743
00:44:52,350 --> 00:44:57,270
kill the other networks? Yeah,
it would be the end of it. If

744
00:44:57,270 --> 00:45:00,510
one of the network's was stand
up and say Look, we're not

745
00:45:00,510 --> 00:45:04,110
running this thing because it's
boring. And nobody watches it.

746
00:45:04,110 --> 00:45:08,130
It is meaningless. And it's it's
just a political speech and they

747
00:45:08,130 --> 00:45:12,330
just pulled the plug on and
said, No, we're running NCIS and

748
00:45:12,330 --> 00:45:15,270
our regular scheduled
programming for Tuesday night,

749
00:45:15,450 --> 00:45:19,020
they would wipe out the other
networks in the neck which would

750
00:45:19,020 --> 00:45:20,460
have to follow suit in the
future.

751
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,210
That is the Ted Turner model, by
the way. Article two, section

752
00:45:24,210 --> 00:45:27,780
three, the president shall from
he shall from time to time give

753
00:45:27,780 --> 00:45:31,170
to Congress information of the
State of the Union, and

754
00:45:31,170 --> 00:45:34,680
recommend to their consideration
such measures as He shall judge

755
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:40,350
necessary and expedient time to
time. He may, on extraordinary

756
00:45:40,350 --> 00:45:47,010
occasions, preempt any primetime
programming, to the Constitution

757
00:45:47,010 --> 00:45:51,900
says right here to convene both
houses or either of them. And in

758
00:45:51,900 --> 00:45:54,750
case of disagreement between
them with respect to the time of

759
00:45:54,750 --> 00:45:58,350
adjournment, he may adjourn them
to such time as he shall think

760
00:45:58,350 --> 00:46:01,530
proper. Did you ever know this,
he shall receive Ambassadors,

761
00:46:01,530 --> 00:46:05,490
other public ministers smoke, we
do Glines a Coke, he shall take

762
00:46:05,490 --> 00:46:08,460
care that the laws be faithfully
executed, and shall commission

763
00:46:08,460 --> 00:46:14,010
all the offs to this very, very
small line about this. But that,

764
00:46:14,010 --> 00:46:21,600
of course, and that started with
who was the first televised

765
00:46:21,630 --> 00:46:24,780
State of the Union president?
Well, that

766
00:46:24,780 --> 00:46:29,100
would have to be after Roosevelt
would do stuff on the radio, and

767
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:32,160
that was ramped everything.
Yeah. And so then you had Truman

768
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,950
and television was just coming.
It would probably be Eisenhower,

769
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,240
I think it was Eisenhower.

770
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:41,220
But he was actually a good
public speaker that was

771
00:46:41,220 --> 00:46:44,460
interesting to listen to.
Because he didn't he didn't have

772
00:46:44,460 --> 00:46:47,220
he wasn't written by handlers,
and it wasn't teleprompters he

773
00:46:47,220 --> 00:46:48,750
read from a piece of paper.

774
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,570
I will say, though,

775
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,310
that this has got to go.

776
00:46:54,450 --> 00:46:59,970
The State of the Union is sad.
The leader of our union is

777
00:46:59,970 --> 00:47:06,090
lying, and tiptoeing around and
riling people against each

778
00:47:06,090 --> 00:47:09,840
other. I think he's it's very,
it was divisional. Also the

779
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,710
douchebags who are in the actual
chamber, oh, I'm not gonna stand

780
00:47:13,710 --> 00:47:16,440
up. Oh, I'm gonna stand up. Oh,
and we're military. We're not

781
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,080
standing. We're not even going
to clap for anything, you know.

782
00:47:19,410 --> 00:47:24,960
And the Supreme Court judges.
It's the whole thing is a big

783
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,400
puppet theatre of douchebags,
who, by the way, pretty much,

784
00:47:29,790 --> 00:47:33,570
without exception are all
millionaires and part of the 1%.

785
00:47:36,180 --> 00:47:40,140
Yeah, this is true. With the
exception of Biden energy can

786
00:47:40,140 --> 00:47:40,920
save a nickel

787
00:47:44,940 --> 00:47:49,560
and it's shameful it the whole
thing is shameful. It really is.

788
00:47:49,590 --> 00:47:52,230
I'm ashamed of what I see when I
see this

789
00:47:52,530 --> 00:47:56,100
as another reason why when it
should be preempted. And it

790
00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:59,100
should be this is over. This is
stupid. We should have to stop

791
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:02,790
doing these speeches. If war
breaks out or something in real

792
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:06,810
war. Yeah, the president can
come on and preempt a few real

793
00:48:06,810 --> 00:48:10,950
war. I see no reason for this
speech. chewed up a good part of

794
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:16,080
this show. True. True. Nobody's
knowledge.

795
00:48:16,260 --> 00:48:19,560
Anything. No, it's true. It's
just ruined. It's ruined. It's

796
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:27,990
ruined my day. And of course, it
is misused by the the true

797
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:33,660
douchebags. I'm looking at you,
Dianne Feinstein. To the tee up

798
00:48:33,660 --> 00:48:38,250
L. Security Intelligence
Committee hearing in Senate the

799
00:48:38,250 --> 00:48:41,850
next morning. Well, no one's
talking about anything except

800
00:48:41,850 --> 00:48:45,240
Oh, the vote or the President
was very firm or whatever. He

801
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:48,750
might have funny about the
speaker of the house. Yeah.

802
00:48:49,050 --> 00:48:52,590
Well, that's all going on in
between Justin Bieber updates.

803
00:48:53,250 --> 00:48:57,390
We've got the we had we had the
Oh, my God. Everybody was here.

804
00:48:57,390 --> 00:48:59,130
John, did you see this thing on
C span?

805
00:48:59,430 --> 00:49:02,400
There was two of them. At the
same time, there was the Justice

806
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,320
Department Oversight Committee,
and then there was the

807
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,560
intelligence cell Senate
Oversight Committee, and it was

808
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,530
loaded with good stuff. That's
what I was spending my time

809
00:49:10,530 --> 00:49:10,980
studying.

810
00:49:11,010 --> 00:49:17,340
Well, I got it too. So I so
clapper Brennan, Comey, Flynn

811
00:49:17,340 --> 00:49:21,360
and Olson, this is this is the
these are the guys you want. Oh,

812
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,140
by the name of the crop. I found
your clip of Dianne Feinstein

813
00:49:25,140 --> 00:49:26,520
from 2009.

814
00:49:28,110 --> 00:49:34,110
When she asked in 2009, remember
the date? What did she ask? She

815
00:49:34,110 --> 00:49:37,740
asked if there's going to be an
attack on the homeland within

816
00:49:37,740 --> 00:49:38,640
six months?

817
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,750
2009 2009 2009 What is the
likelihood

818
00:49:43,050 --> 00:49:48,150
of another terrorist attempted
attack on the US homeland in the

819
00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:52,650
next three to six months high or
low? Director Blair,

820
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:56,130
an attempted attack the priority
is certain I would say Mr.

821
00:49:56,130 --> 00:50:00,090
Panetta, I would agree with Mr.
Molar agree channel Well

822
00:50:00,090 --> 00:50:02,820
purchase ma'am agree Mr. dinger?
Yes

823
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:04,320
Well there you go.

824
00:50:06,450 --> 00:50:09,360
attempted attack in 2009 that
was going to take place within

825
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,170
six months.

826
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:14,040
Actual terrorist attack blowing
something up.

827
00:50:14,609 --> 00:50:19,439
Yeah, yeah some kid. Yeah, I
pulled a kid peed in the wrong

828
00:50:19,439 --> 00:50:20,039
bathroom you

829
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,490
know who knows? I pulled a
couple of clips just short ones

830
00:50:23,580 --> 00:50:29,910
shows you what a this is. I was
actually irked almost the for

831
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:34,500
the last couple of days watching
this stuff. I got some clips too

832
00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:35,070
but plate what

833
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:40,050
I have. Yeah, I have a little a
little Whoa, what's going on

834
00:50:40,050 --> 00:50:45,000
here what's happening hello to
check to alright. Before it

835
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:51,690
started the Code Pink was in the
in the audience holding up signs

836
00:50:51,690 --> 00:50:56,370
like stop lying Stop stop
spying. And I have to give some

837
00:50:56,370 --> 00:51:00,840
kudos to Code Pink. They got
cute girls now with big boobs

838
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,350
and tight T shirts who are
yelling stuff

839
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:07,050
they must have had as some
consultants come in?

840
00:51:08,370 --> 00:51:11,310
Well, I think we maybe they
listened to our show, I think

841
00:51:11,340 --> 00:51:15,210
wasn't this one of our
recommendations to get some good

842
00:51:15,210 --> 00:51:15,750
looking girls

843
00:51:16,589 --> 00:51:19,889
that listen to our show from
both sides of the political

844
00:51:19,889 --> 00:51:25,229
spectrum. Code Pink is not on
that list. I can assure you that

845
00:51:25,229 --> 00:51:29,489
there's not an I challenge any
Code Pink person out there that

846
00:51:29,489 --> 00:51:31,799
actually listens and I don't
want somebody with some bold

847
00:51:31,799 --> 00:51:36,449
crapper to say yeah, I'm in gold
pink. No, I want to so honest

848
00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:39,719
input that will you get or
nothing is going to come in.

849
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:43,110
So I tried to crank this audio
up because this is just before

850
00:51:43,140 --> 00:51:47,160
Diane, fine. stinkle. A hammer
is the beginning of the meeting,

851
00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:51,660
where this really cute girl with
a really tight t shirt with a

852
00:51:51,690 --> 00:51:55,680
just nice, nice chest and she
was showing it all for a reason

853
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,140
to get some media attention,
which of course fails

854
00:51:58,140 --> 00:52:02,520
completely. But it's the right
idea. She'll get some attention

855
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,650
here on the no agenda. So So
just imagine what she looks

856
00:52:04,650 --> 00:52:09,090
like. And she essentially is
doing a Donald Trump on on

857
00:52:09,090 --> 00:52:13,050
clapper clapper and Brennan and
she's firing them on behalf of

858
00:52:13,050 --> 00:52:14,070
the American people.

859
00:52:24,270 --> 00:52:26,880
about national security threats
let's talk about drones that

860
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:34,650
violate international law
terrorists have already fired to

861
00:52:35,550 --> 00:52:40,050
Congress and provide to the
American. I like I'm gonna give

862
00:52:40,050 --> 00:52:44,160
them a little in the morning for
the cute Code Pink girls and

863
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,450
clapper your fire to Brennan
you're fired. I like it, then I

864
00:52:48,450 --> 00:52:51,150
think that's that's a continuing
meme that we need to keep alive.

865
00:52:51,150 --> 00:52:55,320
You're fired. What you should
have done though, is she should

866
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,870
have fired a couple more people
who on the panel. I'm going to

867
00:52:57,870 --> 00:53:02,730
play you two very short clips,
one from Senator Collins and one

868
00:53:02,730 --> 00:53:07,410
from Senator Mikulski. Both
women not that that is matters

869
00:53:07,410 --> 00:53:11,280
in this case, but they both
happen to be douche buckets. And

870
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,700
here's the reason why the
American people don't trust you.

871
00:53:15,330 --> 00:53:18,270
And I'm just gonna I'm gonna ask
everybody this question, John, I

872
00:53:18,270 --> 00:53:19,920
want you to answer because
you're the only one with the

873
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:23,760
only other person on this
programme with a microphone. If

874
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:31,200
I asked you what is the first
name of the whistleblower, known

875
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,310
as Snowden?

876
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,770
I would say I would say Edward
Edward

877
00:53:37,770 --> 00:53:40,680
would be your answer. I'm going
to look at the chat room see if

878
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,430
they also would answer, Edward.
And I wonder if I went on the

879
00:53:44,430 --> 00:53:48,510
street and ask people what is
Snowdens first night? Do you

880
00:53:48,510 --> 00:53:51,030
think people would know Ed or
Edward Do you think they would

881
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:51,600
know this?

882
00:53:52,050 --> 00:53:56,160
I think anyone who heard of him
you would know this. Yes.

883
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,540
Because it's always been used.

884
00:53:57,570 --> 00:53:59,430
Let's listen to Senator Collins,

885
00:53:59,460 --> 00:54:04,830
General Flynn. That's fire in
the discussion today and in

886
00:54:04,830 --> 00:54:11,010
general, there has been very
little focus on the damage that

887
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,710
Edward Snowden Edwin okay

888
00:54:13,740 --> 00:54:20,280
Edwin snowed in All right. Let's
go to the the miniature douche

889
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,120
bucket known as Mikulski Senator
Mikulski, let's see who she

890
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,580
thinks this Snowdens first name
and no group of

891
00:54:26,580 --> 00:54:30,030
employees has been battered more
than the peep the men and women

892
00:54:30,030 --> 00:54:33,270
who work at the National
Security Agency because of the

893
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:35,580
illegal leaks by Eric Snowden

894
00:54:35,580 --> 00:54:40,560
Eric snowed and Okay, very good,
very good. This is why people

895
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,070
hate you. This is why people
don't trust you're so out of

896
00:54:44,070 --> 00:54:47,070
touch. You don't even know the
guy's first name. What are you

897
00:54:47,070 --> 00:54:49,830
doing, Rick? Are you just I
missed that, by the way. Are you

898
00:54:49,830 --> 00:54:51,090
guys high on meth?

899
00:54:51,660 --> 00:54:55,560
And Mikulski? She's horrible.
And Susan Collins I have three

900
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,260
clips from her but they're so
damn long because all she does

901
00:54:58,260 --> 00:55:03,660
is read from a script and Can
dem kid Edwin?

902
00:55:04,140 --> 00:55:08,130
Eric, Edwin, are you kidding me?
These people are smoking crack.

903
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,160
They're not even literal
reading. They don't even have a

904
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:16,470
newspaper apparently. Come on.
This is why people have no trust

905
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:21,930
in you, Senators, distinguished
senators, all right, clapper.

906
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,440
Wow, here's clapper. And this,
of course was talked about a

907
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,590
lot, but there's something in
here that he refers to, that

908
00:55:28,590 --> 00:55:29,760
needs to be discussed.

909
00:55:29,790 --> 00:55:32,670
But what I do want to speak to
as a nation senior intelligence

910
00:55:32,670 --> 00:55:36,510
officer is the profound damage
that his disclosures have caused

911
00:55:36,510 --> 00:55:40,350
and continue to cause. As a
consequence, the nation is less

912
00:55:40,350 --> 00:55:44,370
safe and its people less secure.
What Snowden has stolen and

913
00:55:44,370 --> 00:55:48,420
exposed has gone way way beyond
his professed concerns with so

914
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:51,690
called domestic surveillance
programmes. As a result, we've

915
00:55:51,690 --> 00:55:54,360
lost critical foreign
intelligence collection sources,

916
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,230
including some shared with us by
valued partners, terrorists and

917
00:55:58,230 --> 00:56:01,350
other adversaries of this
country are going to school on

918
00:56:01,350 --> 00:56:05,250
US intelligence sources, methods
and tradecraft, and the insights

919
00:56:05,250 --> 00:56:08,940
that they are gaining are making
our job much, much harder. And

920
00:56:08,940 --> 00:56:12,270
this includes putting the lives
of members or assets of the

921
00:56:12,270 --> 00:56:15,300
intelligence community at risk,
as well as our armed forces,

922
00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:19,440
diplomats and our citizens.
We're beginning to see changes

923
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,620
in the communications behaviour
of adversaries, which you

924
00:56:22,620 --> 00:56:25,620
alluded to, particularly
terrorists a disturbing trend,

925
00:56:25,620 --> 00:56:29,490
which I anticipate will
continue. Snowden claims that

926
00:56:29,490 --> 00:56:33,870
he's one and his mission is
accomplished. If that is so I

927
00:56:33,870 --> 00:56:37,290
call on him and his accomplices
to facilitate the return of the

928
00:56:37,290 --> 00:56:40,920
remaining stolen documents that
have not yet been exposed to

929
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,830
prevent even more damage to us
security. Now, the

930
00:56:43,890 --> 00:56:47,970
media made a big deal about
accomplices and Gregory Roush

931
00:56:49,230 --> 00:56:53,220
was all you all got in a husky
about Oh, am I an accomplice now

932
00:56:53,220 --> 00:56:56,340
and I don't even think Clapper
was talking about the

933
00:56:56,340 --> 00:56:59,040
journalists being accomplices
but okay, that's at least that

934
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,670
gives the Glenn Greenwald some
some fodder for the next couple

935
00:57:02,670 --> 00:57:06,360
of next 48 hours. But what
Clapper is referring to here is

936
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:11,670
an interview done by a rd, the
German television network,

937
00:57:11,790 --> 00:57:17,460
again, always Germany. And this
and this is something that just

938
00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:21,120
needs to be noted. We've got
Poydras in Germany, Appelbaum in

939
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:25,230
Germany, we've got the German at
what Snowden won't do interviews

940
00:57:25,230 --> 00:57:28,620
with 60 minutes. What is it only
German television? Okay, fine.

941
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:33,060
Because this guy is a CIA
operative, and he gives it away

942
00:57:33,090 --> 00:57:36,780
not once, but twice. And
specifically, what clapper

943
00:57:36,780 --> 00:57:37,530
alluded to,

944
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,040
at the very end, you ended up in
Russia, many of the intelligence

945
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,450
community suspect you made a
deal classified material for

946
00:57:45,450 --> 00:57:47,640
asylum here in Russia,

947
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,870
the chief of the task force
investigating me, as recently as

948
00:57:51,870 --> 00:57:55,440
December, said that their
investigation had turned up no

949
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,820
evidence or indications at all,
that I had any outside help or

950
00:57:59,820 --> 00:58:05,490
contact or made a deal of any
kind. To accomplish my mission,

951
00:58:06,660 --> 00:58:10,560
he throws it away. And he says
to accomplish my mission,

952
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,740
right, the minute you got these
clips, because I was going up

953
00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:18,600
this is this. There's Yeah, and
there we are to at two pieces of

954
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,760
evidence was within this
interview, and people can check

955
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:21,330
it out. It's,

956
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:24,540
it's in the showcase. We gotta
we gotta link in the show notes.

957
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,820
He says, let me just let me just
make this point. He says, to

958
00:58:29,820 --> 00:58:33,450
accomplish my mission. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. His

959
00:58:33,450 --> 00:58:38,820
mission is a CIA mission. Yeah.
And he was a CIA offered. This

960
00:58:38,820 --> 00:58:40,770
is what we've been saying on the
show from us.

961
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:45,540
And when you're a CIA operative,
you are always a company man.

962
00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:50,640
You are always a company, man.
You do not leave, you can stop

963
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,840
working for them. They call you
you're in or you're dead. You're

964
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,620
always accompany man worked
alone. I didn't need so for

965
00:58:58,620 --> 00:59:01,320
Snowden to say. Let me just play
it again. Because the way it

966
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:09,090
slips out. And it is his
mission. To accomplish my

967
00:59:09,090 --> 00:59:12,570
mission to accomplish my
mission, yeah, a mission, is it?

968
00:59:13,410 --> 00:59:15,660
I think we've got it. Let's go
to the second exam.

969
00:59:15,689 --> 00:59:17,579
Here's the Okay, here's the CIA
stuff.

970
00:59:17,820 --> 00:59:24,330
In 2007. The CIA station to you
with diplomatic cover in Geneva

971
00:59:24,330 --> 00:59:27,570
in Switzerland. Why did you join
the CIA? By the way? I don't

972
00:59:27,570 --> 00:59:29,130
think I can actually answer that
one. Okay,

973
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,890
because I'm a CIA agent.

974
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,700
If it's what you'd have been
doing there, forget it. But why

975
00:59:35,700 --> 00:59:36,780
did you join the CIA?

976
00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:41,070
In many ways, I think it's a
continuation of trying to do

977
00:59:41,070 --> 00:59:46,140
everything I could to prosecute
the public good in the most

978
00:59:46,140 --> 00:59:50,220
effective way. And it's in line
with the rest of my government

979
00:59:50,220 --> 00:59:52,440
service. Yes.

980
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:58,860
And he is going to be brought
home. The deal is being worked

981
00:59:58,860 --> 01:00:04,470
out as we speak. It's all going
to flow nicely. You know,

982
01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:07,440
there'll be, there'll be some,
there'll be some beautiful deal,

983
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,650
he's going to come back and
it'll all be over. And the CIA

984
01:00:10,650 --> 01:00:15,060
gets what they wanted. They get
total control over the NSA, who

985
01:00:15,060 --> 01:00:18,420
had who had gone off the
reservation, they needed to shut

986
01:00:18,420 --> 01:00:22,650
those guys down, rein in the
FBI. I'm feeling there may be an

987
01:00:22,650 --> 01:00:27,750
addendum to executive order one,
two, triple three. Because

988
01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:29,940
that's what everyone is
operating off of, once again, in

989
01:00:29,940 --> 01:00:37,350
the in the Senate hearings, it
brought up again, and I can tell

990
01:00:37,350 --> 01:00:39,690
you is this this is a set up,

991
01:00:39,870 --> 01:00:43,500
you dissected, dissected the one
two triple three thing and the

992
01:00:43,500 --> 01:00:46,500
last show, which I thought was
quite good, and it's still in

993
01:00:46,500 --> 01:00:49,230
play, which means that these
guys can be given the ability to

994
01:00:49,230 --> 01:00:51,990
just do anything they want to.
And I think that's pretty much

995
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:56,400
epitomised in this great bull
crap answer clip I have, which

996
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,480
is where we're direct clappers
direct asked another direct

997
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,070
question which he doesn't
answer,

998
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:07,110
especially given what's been
happening, that the CIA and the

999
01:01:07,110 --> 01:01:10,860
director understand the limits
of their mission and its

1000
01:01:10,860 --> 01:01:13,890
authorities. We all are well
aware of executive order 12,

1001
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,580
triple three, that order
prohibits the CIA from engaging

1002
01:01:17,580 --> 01:01:20,340
in domestic spying and searches
of US citizens within our

1003
01:01:20,340 --> 01:01:24,060
borders. Can you assure the
committee that the CIA does not

1004
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:28,290
conduct such domestic spying and
searches? I can assure the

1005
01:01:28,290 --> 01:01:31,530
committee that the CIA follows
the letter in the spirit of law

1006
01:01:31,530 --> 01:01:34,350
in terms of what CIA's
authorities are, in terms of its

1007
01:01:34,350 --> 01:01:36,990
responsibilities to collect
intelligence that keep this

1008
01:01:36,990 --> 01:01:38,070
country safe. Yes.

1009
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,130
Have you ever screwed around me
with another woman I can confirm

1010
01:01:44,130 --> 01:01:46,710
to you that I absolutely would
never think that would be

1011
01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:49,950
appropriate to do because I like
the use of performance much more

1012
01:01:49,950 --> 01:01:51,090
than answering your question.

1013
01:01:52,890 --> 01:01:56,280
So they got bigger. They walked
on that one. Now, when you talk

1014
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:01,950
about the CIA going after the
NSA. You have to kind of see

1015
01:02:01,950 --> 01:02:05,520
who's in what camp because the
FBI is in a camp. And then we

1016
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:11,880
have we have the DIA. Yes. So
they had General Flynn, right.

1017
01:02:12,300 --> 01:02:15,090
And Susan Collins was grilling
him with and she threw some

1018
01:02:15,090 --> 01:02:16,920
stuff in there, by the way,
which I did a little research

1019
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:22,320
on, like the the Three Mile High
stack of documents. So that a

1020
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,580
doc three how my step, three
mile high stack of documents I

1021
01:02:26,580 --> 01:02:31,950
calculated to be 48 million
documents. Yeah, based on the

1022
01:02:31,950 --> 01:02:35,370
fact that a sheet of paper is
point one millimetre.

1023
01:02:37,470 --> 01:02:41,190
John, oh my gosh, did you do
this calculation on the chaise

1024
01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:41,760
lounge?

1025
01:02:41,939 --> 01:02:48,449
I did the calculation on the
computer. So she's doing her

1026
01:02:48,449 --> 01:02:53,159
thing. So she's always in the
NSA. I think the whole Feinstein

1027
01:02:53,159 --> 01:02:57,119
committee, by the way, is in the
NSA camp, because I either

1028
01:02:57,119 --> 01:02:59,129
they've been blackmailed. I
mean, she sounds like she's been

1029
01:02:59,129 --> 01:03:03,209
blackmailed away. She's reading
this question. And the DIA seems

1030
01:03:03,209 --> 01:03:06,749
to also be under the gun because
this is being asked of again,

1031
01:03:06,839 --> 01:03:09,119
and Flynn who by the way, and
this is kind of interesting.

1032
01:03:09,569 --> 01:03:14,009
Flynn is a three star general.
In other testimony, they bring

1033
01:03:14,009 --> 01:03:20,159
up the fact that the Cyber
Command is run by to you to

1034
01:03:20,189 --> 01:03:24,239
count up to four star generals.
Yeah. So the Cyber Command and

1035
01:03:24,239 --> 01:03:26,789
it was some of the some of the
cyber command we can mention I

1036
01:03:26,789 --> 01:03:29,849
can tell you about later. But
let's this is a long clip. And

1037
01:03:29,849 --> 01:03:30,839
you can interrupt

1038
01:03:31,470 --> 01:03:36,150
me just say one thing about
before it all started, we found

1039
01:03:36,210 --> 01:03:41,370
out that clapper and Clapper is
in charge of he essentially he

1040
01:03:41,370 --> 01:03:44,880
is the conduit of all
intelligence to the President.

1041
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,910
This is as determined by
executive order one two triple

1042
01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:52,470
three, everything this bonehead
Clapper, we're not we're not

1043
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:56,580
we're gonna hear from a Flynn
but clapper the bonehead is he

1044
01:03:56,580 --> 01:04:00,660
is the mack daddy of all these
guys. He is the conduit to the

1045
01:04:00,660 --> 01:04:04,560
president. He gave a
confidential note what did they

1046
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:10,920
call it all off the record
security thing

1047
01:04:11,940 --> 01:04:15,270
in the private sessions for you.
Whenever they have a word for it

1048
01:04:15,270 --> 01:04:19,410
to Yeah, I know they do. Anyway
something session he Yeah, he

1049
01:04:19,410 --> 01:04:19,710
had a

1050
01:04:19,710 --> 01:04:24,660
session and updated the Senate
with all kinds of information

1051
01:04:24,660 --> 01:04:30,660
that could not be revealed the
publicly disclosed and I believe

1052
01:04:30,690 --> 01:04:35,880
it's in these discussions where
he says Ah, yeah, Diane. Yes, I

1053
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,730
have a little Oh, hold on a
second. Have a I have a piece of

1054
01:04:38,730 --> 01:04:43,500
paper here for you. Yes. This is
about your husband's dealings

1055
01:04:44,190 --> 01:04:47,130
with all the post offices. Yeah,
we wouldn't want that to slip

1056
01:04:47,130 --> 01:04:50,610
out Woodway I think you're right
I think these people all of them

1057
01:04:50,610 --> 01:04:51,780
are being blackmailed.

1058
01:04:53,850 --> 01:04:57,300
So Susan Collins really is
reading the end this is just

1059
01:04:57,300 --> 01:04:59,730
this is this is you already
played part of this clip is

1060
01:04:59,730 --> 01:05:04,170
where she says, Ed, what's not
Edwin Edwin?

1061
01:05:05,010 --> 01:05:06,540
Thank you, Madam Chairman.

1062
01:05:07,230 --> 01:05:09,600
Uh, did she have a stroke? By
the way, this woman, she had a

1063
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,790
stroke seven years ago. That's
what I'm not gonna laugh about

1064
01:05:11,790 --> 01:05:14,370
that. But it is annoying because
it takes a long time to get the

1065
01:05:14,370 --> 01:05:14,820
words out.

1066
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,030
I should have sped up this
process.

1067
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,400
Sorry for all your stroke
victims out there. I know. It

1068
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,940
sucks. And my dad's one of them.
It sucks. Like, oh, you just

1069
01:05:23,940 --> 01:05:25,440
want to like, hey, Snowden.

1070
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:31,980
General Flynn. That's fire and
the discussion today. And in

1071
01:05:31,980 --> 01:05:38,190
general, there has been very
little focus on the damage that

1072
01:05:38,220 --> 01:05:45,030
Edward Snowden has done to our
military. I've read the DIA

1073
01:05:45,090 --> 01:05:52,140
assessment. And it is evident to
me that most of the documents

1074
01:05:52,140 --> 01:05:59,100
stolen by Mr. Snowden have
nothing to do with the privacy

1075
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:04,380
rights and civil liberties of
American citizens, or even the

1076
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:09,780
NSA collection programmes.
Indeed, these documents and

1077
01:06:09,780 --> 01:06:15,300
we've heard the number 1.7
million documents are in many

1078
01:06:15,300 --> 01:06:20,460
cases, multi pages. If you
printed them all, and stack

1079
01:06:20,460 --> 01:06:24,570
them, they would be more than
three miles high.

1080
01:06:25,770 --> 01:06:29,190
Call it McGlinn. Call it McGlinn
tell him to recut eight miles

1081
01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:30,540
high into three miles high

1082
01:06:30,660 --> 01:06:39,120
three. So let's stop right
there. Now, all along, at least

1083
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,480
from what they've been telling
us. They don't really know what

1084
01:06:42,510 --> 01:06:43,920
Snowden ever took.

1085
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,520
Even Glenn Greenwald says he has
he thinks it's made up this

1086
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:47,910
number.

1087
01:06:48,390 --> 01:06:53,580
Yeah. And then the government
itself has admitted over and

1088
01:06:53,610 --> 01:06:57,720
over and the NSA said we don't
know what he took, right? We

1089
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,550
don't even know how he took it.
Which is

1090
01:06:59,610 --> 01:07:02,790
well, yes, we do. We took it off
a SharePoint Server.

1091
01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:07,980
So we don't know this. So where
does this information come from?

1092
01:07:07,980 --> 01:07:10,770
Is she just making it up? I
think she gets from this

1093
01:07:10,770 --> 01:07:12,720
information. She's reading from
a script, obviously,

1094
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,330
this is bullcrap. He gets it
from this week in Google.

1095
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,150
squeaking Jeff Jarvis.

1096
01:07:18,180 --> 01:07:23,820
I say that to get the public
more information. No

1097
01:07:23,820 --> 01:07:29,220
more propaganda. Very good. Miss
Collins, to thank you the

1098
01:07:29,220 --> 01:07:31,800
public. Thanks you for your
service and your courage

1099
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:38,880
about how extraordinarily
extensive the documents that

1100
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,070
he's sold. were sold.

1101
01:07:41,250 --> 01:07:45,630
He sold them. Did she say
stoled? stolte? I think she said

1102
01:07:45,630 --> 01:07:48,930
stoled. I think she did. She's
she's from the hood now

1103
01:07:48,930 --> 01:07:49,470
apparently.

1104
01:07:50,490 --> 01:07:53,580
Alright, the more I hear these,
this, this, this is all theatre

1105
01:07:53,580 --> 01:07:55,950
because they have the real
sessions in private. Exactly.

1106
01:07:56,220 --> 01:07:59,700
But you know, this is a we
brought it up already. I'm gonna

1107
01:07:59,730 --> 01:08:04,200
mention this is part of the
negotiations. Yeah, we are going

1108
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,500
to start to slam Snowden for
stuff that we don't know what

1109
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:10,380
he's got. We admitted earlier.
But now we somehow know what

1110
01:08:10,380 --> 01:08:13,140
he's got. And it's got nothing
to do with privacy. It's a bunch

1111
01:08:13,140 --> 01:08:15,600
of military information that's
going to be used against the

1112
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,350
Americans.

1113
01:08:17,130 --> 01:08:19,350
And what's the guy's name? I
gotta read the script here.

1114
01:08:19,350 --> 01:08:22,170
What's the Eric? Okay. Eric
Snowden

1115
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:27,600
Airoli extensive. The documents
that he's sold,

1116
01:08:27,899 --> 01:08:32,819
she said stoled? Oh, let me ask
you a question about the

1117
01:08:32,819 --> 01:08:33,989
documents. You stole the

1118
01:08:34,019 --> 01:08:39,989
word and they don't just pertain
to the NSA, they pertain to the

1119
01:08:40,019 --> 01:08:42,869
entire intelligence community.

1120
01:08:42,990 --> 01:08:46,680
Yes. Let's quickly hop back to
the ARD interview and find out

1121
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:47,940
what that entails. Yes,

1122
01:08:47,940 --> 01:08:53,340
the NSA spy on Siemens on
receitas. On other successful

1123
01:08:53,340 --> 01:08:57,720
German companies, for example,
to prevail, and to have the

1124
01:08:57,750 --> 01:09:00,630
advantage of knowing what is
going on in the scientific and

1125
01:09:00,630 --> 01:09:01,590
the economic world,

1126
01:09:01,740 --> 01:09:04,980
I don't want to preempt the
editorial decisions of

1127
01:09:04,980 --> 01:09:09,450
journalists. Okay. But what I
will say is there's no question

1128
01:09:09,930 --> 01:09:13,950
that the US is engaged in
economic spying, if there is

1129
01:09:13,950 --> 01:09:17,760
information at Siemens that they
think would be beneficial to the

1130
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,810
national interests, not the
national security of the United

1131
01:09:21,810 --> 01:09:24,870
States. They'll go after that
information, and they'll take it

1132
01:09:24,929 --> 01:09:30,149
and that is particularly
interesting in regards to the

1133
01:09:30,149 --> 01:09:35,669
huge scandals in Greece with
Siemens, Siemens high speed rail

1134
01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:39,419
for California. Yeah, it's very
interesting that the word

1135
01:09:39,419 --> 01:09:41,069
Siemens comes up Siemens

1136
01:09:41,069 --> 01:09:43,319
comes up with seems that Siemens
has probably been bitching to

1137
01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:46,709
somebody about this because they
know this is going on. So asked

1138
01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:50,549
me the question that the Snowden
about good to us.

1139
01:09:52,410 --> 01:10:01,980
Eric, Eric, Eric. Eric, we will
sync that The National Security

1140
01:10:01,980 --> 01:10:07,920
Agency is spying on the Mercedes
and shamans. Oh, I can't

1141
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,860
answer that question because I'm
gonna leave it to the journalist

1142
01:10:10,860 --> 01:10:14,580
to answer the question. What
does kind of have an obvious

1143
01:10:14,580 --> 01:10:16,110
answer of Yes.

1144
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,390
Thank you for this interview is
very nice. I like it's very much

1145
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:26,460
that you chose the German German
television to talk the truth,

1146
01:10:26,490 --> 01:10:27,210
the truth is

1147
01:10:27,210 --> 01:10:29,310
to get the message out to you
boneheads

1148
01:10:30,149 --> 01:10:31,049
and include him,

1149
01:10:31,230 --> 01:10:39,210
by the way, just hit me a long
term, since the 60s CIA trick

1150
01:10:39,810 --> 01:10:45,420
has been to have your operatives
write something in a foreign

1151
01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:50,190
publication. So that then the
United States publications can

1152
01:10:50,190 --> 01:10:56,430
point to it as fact and truth.
This is a known CIA way of

1153
01:10:56,730 --> 01:11:01,260
propagandising people till you
get someone to write something

1154
01:11:01,290 --> 01:11:07,650
in the index built. And then the
New York Times can say, Well,

1155
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,310
look, the Germans wrote it in
their number one publication, it

1156
01:11:11,310 --> 01:11:18,990
must be true. And this is why
the CIA, Eric CIA, Snowden has

1157
01:11:18,990 --> 01:11:24,000
chosen the German press. And by
the way, this is a proper German

1158
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:28,290
channel. This is not some fly by
night, commercial channel. Now,

1159
01:11:28,290 --> 01:11:31,650
it's not a it's not a it's not
at Murdoch own channel. You

1160
01:11:31,650 --> 01:11:35,880
know, this is a state television
station for mation. Let's go

1161
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,700
back to miss columns about

1162
01:11:38,730 --> 01:11:43,650
military intelligence or defence
capabilities, the defence

1163
01:11:43,710 --> 01:11:51,300
industry now, you are the leader
of military intelligence. You

1164
01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:56,730
have also been deployed for
extensive periods in Iraq. You

1165
01:11:56,730 --> 01:12:03,270
know, what the impact is on the
military? Could you share with

1166
01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:09,060
the committee your assessment of
the impact that the damage that

1167
01:12:09,090 --> 01:12:16,440
Edward Snowden has done to our
military, and in particular, has

1168
01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:21,990
he placed our men and women in
uniform at greater risk?

1169
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,230
Yes, you were dinging your
belly. Mr. demora.

1170
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,210
What a chicken shit.

1171
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,550
Yeah, you know what they should
have had

1172
01:12:33,870 --> 01:12:37,980
to do spring main vote this
woman out of office,

1173
01:12:38,309 --> 01:12:41,819
that what she should have done
is said, let me show you this

1174
01:12:41,819 --> 01:12:46,619
poor Ranger who's half his head
was blown off because of Edwin

1175
01:12:46,619 --> 01:12:50,759
Snowden. That's it. They just
make the connection. Please.

1176
01:12:51,179 --> 01:12:54,869
Just go all the way. What do you
care? See this guy who has to

1177
01:12:54,869 --> 01:13:00,569
clap with one hand on his chest?
Yeah, let's roll him out. This

1178
01:13:00,599 --> 01:13:05,399
because of Eric Snowden. His
head was blown off. Because the

1179
01:13:05,399 --> 01:13:10,559
terrorists went to school on his
documents. Oh, it's next. It's

1180
01:13:10,559 --> 01:13:14,939
put it in the book. It's next.
John put this in the book.

1181
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,710
I don't know how to put it in
the book.

1182
01:13:17,130 --> 01:13:20,550
Wounded Warrior result of
Snowden leaks.

1183
01:13:20,610 --> 01:13:23,550
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

1184
01:13:23,580 --> 01:13:29,340
And this is it's so disgusting.
I want to I saw this whole thing

1185
01:13:29,340 --> 01:13:33,300
and, and she was very annoying,
and it's nothing she can help

1186
01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:35,790
other than that she's reading a
script, and she read slowly.

1187
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,560
Senator Collins, thanks for that
question. And yeah, thanks. You

1188
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,310
read it pretty well. It was kind
of exactly what the script said.

1189
01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:45,900
So let me read my lines to you

1190
01:13:45,929 --> 01:13:49,829
know, on the report that you're
that you're indicating or

1191
01:13:49,829 --> 01:13:53,399
highlighting this guy's clearing
his throat so much Yeah, cuz

1192
01:13:53,399 --> 01:13:57,659
he's lie is lying do have a, I
believe a session in about a

1193
01:13:57,659 --> 01:14:01,349
week for this committee to go
through the entire report. The

1194
01:14:01,409 --> 01:14:07,109
strongest the strongest word
that I can use to describe, you

1195
01:14:07,109 --> 01:14:14,099
know, how, how bad this this is,
is grave damage to our national

1196
01:14:14,099 --> 01:14:20,219
security. I think another way to
address you know, your question

1197
01:14:20,699 --> 01:14:24,629
is, you know, what is the what
are the costs that we are going

1198
01:14:24,629 --> 01:14:29,639
to incur because of the scale
and the scope of what has been

1199
01:14:29,639 --> 01:14:35,339
taken. Bye, bye, Snowden. I I
won't put $1 figure but I know

1200
01:14:35,339 --> 01:14:42,629
that the scale or the cost to
our nation you know, obviously

1201
01:14:42,629 --> 01:14:43,949
in treasurer in

1202
01:14:44,700 --> 01:14:49,380
case I missed that he she didn't
he didn't do the blood. He said

1203
01:14:49,380 --> 01:14:52,560
I was waiting. I was the blood
where's the blood, mix it up

1204
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:53,130
abilities

1205
01:14:53,130 --> 01:14:56,310
that are going to have to be
examined, re examined and

1206
01:14:56,370 --> 01:14:59,700
potentially adjusted. But I
think that the greatest cost

1207
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:06,900
that The that is unknown today,
but we will we will likely face

1208
01:15:07,140 --> 01:15:08,640
is the cost in human life.

1209
01:15:08,670 --> 01:15:12,060
Yes, yes show the kid with his
head blown off

1210
01:15:12,570 --> 01:15:18,480
on tomorrow's battlefield or in
in some in some some place where

1211
01:15:18,510 --> 01:15:22,620
where we will put our military
forces when we ask them to go

1212
01:15:22,620 --> 01:15:23,310
into harm's way,

1213
01:15:23,310 --> 01:15:26,370
and I think that's exactly what
I'm predicting is exactly what

1214
01:15:26,370 --> 01:15:27,150
I'm predicting. That's the

1215
01:15:27,150 --> 01:15:32,520
greatest cost that we face with
the disclosures that have that

1216
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,190
have been presented so far.
Yeah. Like the

1217
01:15:35,190 --> 01:15:36,300
kid with his head blown

1218
01:15:37,170 --> 01:15:41,100
down have gone up, he just goes
on with his bullcrap. So she

1219
01:15:41,100 --> 01:15:43,860
comes back and asked this other
guy, Matt Olson, who's the

1220
01:15:43,860 --> 01:15:46,470
counterterrorism specialist for
the White House now.

1221
01:15:47,250 --> 01:15:51,210
Isn't he the guy that wrote the
book? And we I think we had we

1222
01:15:51,210 --> 01:15:54,120
looked at this Olson guy, he's a
another lawyer. I'm not a

1223
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:54,540
lawyer.

1224
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,220
But listen to his answer. Now,
this is not as long thank God,

1225
01:15:59,460 --> 01:16:01,860
because I started by the length
of these, but you know, Susan

1226
01:16:01,860 --> 01:16:06,720
Collins, I do say I should have
processed her. So we could have

1227
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:11,190
cut her questions from three
minutes to 30 seconds. You

1228
01:16:11,190 --> 01:16:14,070
can just put Jill Abrams from
the New York Times in there and

1229
01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:21,030
it would be the same. Well, let
me tell you about Snowden. Hey,

1230
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:25,080
you got that down? And well, I
saw her. She was interviewed by

1231
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:30,900
Al Jazeera. And I thought of
clipping it, but it was She

1232
01:16:30,900 --> 01:16:33,480
really said no. Sounded like
Schumer

1233
01:16:33,480 --> 01:16:34,530
when you're doing that voice.

1234
01:16:34,710 --> 01:16:39,630
Mr. Olson, it's good to see you
again. We've worked extensively

1235
01:16:39,630 --> 01:16:42,360
when I was on the homeland
security stuff.

1236
01:16:43,530 --> 01:16:48,960
So when they worked extensively,
she was berating him for lying

1237
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:53,070
about Benghazi. Really, oh, it
was their old transcript. So

1238
01:16:53,070 --> 01:16:56,340
really, working together. Now
they are

1239
01:16:56,370 --> 01:16:59,550
oh, you should if you have the
transcript, you can go to C span

1240
01:16:59,550 --> 01:17:03,030
video library and get a clip it
really couldn't find it. There's

1241
01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:03,090
a

1242
01:17:03,090 --> 01:17:05,550
lot of you that the library
search thing is not you know

1243
01:17:05,550 --> 01:17:05,640
what

1244
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,580
the problem is, because I do it
all the time. And they have the

1245
01:17:08,580 --> 01:17:11,460
timeline, you can fill in the
word and it'll and the timeline

1246
01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:14,190
will find when someone said
something, but if you click on

1247
01:17:14,190 --> 01:17:18,030
it, it takes you to right after
someone said something, but it

1248
01:17:18,030 --> 01:17:24,120
could be 20 minutes of
transcript. It's horrible. I

1249
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,750
spend hours finding this stuff
for you, people.

1250
01:17:28,170 --> 01:17:35,760
Committee, I want to turn to the
impact of the Snowden leaks on

1251
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:41,430
our nation's ability to connect
the dots and to protect our

1252
01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:48,090
citizens from terrorism attacks.
You address this issue at a

1253
01:17:48,090 --> 01:17:55,320
recent conference. Have you seen
terrorist groups change their

1254
01:17:55,320 --> 01:18:02,400
methods as a ret, as a direct
result of the disclosures of the

1255
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:06,390
stolen documents that Mr.
Snowden has?

1256
01:18:06,540 --> 01:18:09,510
Yeah, this is this was quite
funny. Actually, I thought

1257
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:13,380
before you hit this play
anymore, let me just throw this

1258
01:18:13,380 --> 01:18:18,600
out to our listeners and you.
How do you know what do you what

1259
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,300
he begins to say is you have to
ask the question, how does he

1260
01:18:21,300 --> 01:18:25,890
know any of this? How do you how
what? And if you do know this?

1261
01:18:25,890 --> 01:18:26,370
Why can't

1262
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,670
Why can't you get these guys if
you just go pick

1263
01:18:29,670 --> 01:18:30,870
them up? Or drone?

1264
01:18:30,870 --> 01:18:34,380
them? Yes. Hello Dr. Brennan's?
Right, notice this too, of

1265
01:18:34,380 --> 01:18:38,550
course, it's a total hole in the
way they operate. It's a hole in

1266
01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:40,080
the in the, in the

1267
01:18:40,110 --> 01:18:42,780
narrative, it's a hole in the
narrative if we if you know all

1268
01:18:42,780 --> 01:18:45,540
our stuff, that we have this
attitude about blowing people

1269
01:18:45,540 --> 01:18:49,290
out of the out of the off this
earth with a drone? Yeah, go do

1270
01:18:49,290 --> 01:18:55,200
it. Yeah. We're talking. Senator
Collins, the answer that is yes.

1271
01:18:55,980 --> 01:19:00,480
As we've been discussing, the
the terrorist landscape has

1272
01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:03,750
become increasingly complex.
We've seen the geographic

1273
01:19:03,750 --> 01:19:09,240
diffusion of groups and
networks. And that places a

1274
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,540
premium on our ability to
monitor communications. And what

1275
01:19:12,540 --> 01:19:17,190
we've seen in the last six to
eight months is an awareness by

1276
01:19:17,190 --> 01:19:20,400
these groups that and they're
increasingly sophisticated, and

1277
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:25,260
awareness of our ability to, to
monitor communications and

1278
01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:28,590
specific instances where they've
changed the ways in which they

1279
01:19:28,590 --> 01:19:32,460
communicate to avoid being
surveilled, or being subjected

1280
01:19:32,460 --> 01:19:34,440
to our our surveillance tactics.
Yeah.

1281
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:38,010
I agree with you, John. I feel
that if you know that there's

1282
01:19:38,010 --> 01:19:41,940
guys who were talking about
something and then they changed

1283
01:19:41,940 --> 01:19:45,690
their ways ie they stopped using
what was that video conference

1284
01:19:45,690 --> 01:19:52,740
chat thing that was on the list
along with Skype, whatever they

1285
01:19:52,770 --> 01:19:57,840
so they stopped using Skype.
Right and you know this and you

1286
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:02,610
know, the guys where they
located Blow em up. You do that

1287
01:20:02,610 --> 01:20:06,990
for anybody else. So it's yeah
it's a hole in the plot it's a

1288
01:20:06,990 --> 01:20:10,260
hole in the narrative. The
writers don't know how to fill

1289
01:20:10,260 --> 01:20:12,720
it by the way because these guys
know they don't it's the same on

1290
01:20:12,750 --> 01:20:17,280
CSI or or homeland that the
holes are the same and you can

1291
01:20:17,310 --> 01:20:20,880
if you really objectively watch
the shows you would be shouting

1292
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:26,130
your television saying you know
he's doing it well him up Yeah,

1293
01:20:26,610 --> 01:20:27,990
so it's uh yeah,

1294
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:29,700
I find it very offensive and I

1295
01:20:29,730 --> 01:20:34,320
and of course more offensive is
there was zero coverage of this

1296
01:20:34,380 --> 01:20:41,700
zero because everyone was
talking about snow which is

1297
01:20:41,730 --> 01:20:44,820
cracks me up by the way I love
how we can all predict how we're

1298
01:20:44,820 --> 01:20:48,300
all going to die from global
warming, but we can't predict

1299
01:20:48,330 --> 01:20:55,320
ice and I and all of Atlantic
got caught by it because

1300
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:59,190
meteorologist couldn't fit go
well gee, I didn't know what was

1301
01:20:59,190 --> 01:21:05,910
going to happen please insult me
Hey, in the morning to you John

1302
01:21:05,910 --> 01:21:06,720
C Dvorak.

1303
01:21:06,900 --> 01:21:08,640
And good morning to you Adam
curry in the morning all the

1304
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,530
shifts to see boots on the
ground feet in the air subs in

1305
01:21:10,530 --> 01:21:11,910
the water all the games and
nights out?

1306
01:21:11,940 --> 01:21:14,130
Yes in the morning to the chat
room. We've been very harsh on

1307
01:21:14,130 --> 01:21:17,280
me this morning. No agenda
stream.com no agenda chat dotnet

1308
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,430
Oh, they said you know everyone
knows better. Curry doesn't know

1309
01:21:20,430 --> 01:21:24,060
what curry didn't know history
shell I didn't know history he

1310
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,130
you get an F for history. Curry.

1311
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:26,970
Who's that guy?

1312
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,090
Man, that guy is the guy who
talks like that. It's trouble a

1313
01:21:30,090 --> 01:21:34,470
in the morning. Our artists
Thank you very much. Joshua

1314
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:39,300
Pettigrew. But a nice Davo a
piece of art for episode a 586.

1315
01:21:39,300 --> 01:21:43,140
This is episode 587. You could
find the show notes at 587. That

1316
01:21:43,140 --> 01:21:48,690
no agenda notes.com. And very
happy to thank a number of our

1317
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,630
executive producers and
Associate Executive producers.

1318
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,810
The opening credits are a little
delayed today just because we

1319
01:21:54,810 --> 01:21:57,630
got into so there was so much to
talk about. But these are the

1320
01:21:57,630 --> 01:21:59,640
people that you these are well
these are the people that

1321
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,510
finance it. That that keep us
going keep the show going. And

1322
01:22:03,510 --> 01:22:06,840
these are the people who
ultimately decide if we continue

1323
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,530
or not, along with everyone else
who is producing the programme,

1324
01:22:10,530 --> 01:22:13,620
and we will thank them in a
segment later on in the show.

1325
01:22:16,410 --> 01:22:18,150
Oh, interesting. And let

1326
01:22:18,150 --> 01:22:21,660
us start with our first
executive producer Hold on

1327
01:22:21,660 --> 01:22:26,190
a second. The problem was that I
had my my keyboard had locked

1328
01:22:26,190 --> 01:22:26,910
up. I couldn't type

1329
01:22:26,940 --> 01:22:29,040
you've had nothing but problems
with this keyboard.

1330
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,870
I've had a really huge I've had
weird problems recently from

1331
01:22:33,870 --> 01:22:36,450
mechanical things I heard I had
I heard

1332
01:22:36,450 --> 01:22:40,710
I heard the horror which show?
Yeah. And that was unacceptable.

1333
01:22:42,030 --> 01:22:42,780
That noise?

1334
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,670
I filtered it out after some
point you're not here to listen

1335
01:22:47,670 --> 01:22:48,780
to the beginning. Right? I heard

1336
01:22:48,780 --> 01:22:52,590
the whole show and you call that
filtering. Yeah, you feel. Yeah.

1337
01:22:52,620 --> 01:22:55,590
Thank you. You're like whatever
the case. Oh, don't worry. I can

1338
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:59,220
we'll fix it in the mix. No, no.
That was

1339
01:22:59,220 --> 01:23:00,420
at the beginning. And

1340
01:23:00,630 --> 01:23:03,750
may I make Can you just give me
I make an observation else and

1341
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:04,830
make an observation.

1342
01:23:05,070 --> 01:23:08,730
No. Make it in your other show.

1343
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:13,770
This is exactly the point. You
talk differently to him than you

1344
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:14,580
talk to me.

1345
01:23:15,990 --> 01:23:18,450
What do you mean I talk
differently to him? I'm the same

1346
01:23:18,450 --> 01:23:18,990
person.

1347
01:23:19,530 --> 01:23:21,900
Yeah, it's different somehow.
And I'm a little I know because

1348
01:23:21,900 --> 01:23:24,000
I'm a little jealous, less
likely to pull out a gun and

1349
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:24,510
shoot me.

1350
01:23:25,650 --> 01:23:28,020
And I'm a little jealous. I'm a
little hurt actually.

1351
01:23:31,890 --> 01:23:36,450
He says the same thing. Like me.

1352
01:23:36,900 --> 01:23:40,590
Yeah, you'd like to Horowitz
better than you'd like me.

1353
01:23:41,820 --> 01:23:45,000
Well, I like a couple of guys
for sure. And they tend to be

1354
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:50,910
some of our producers, including
our two Insta nights. Yeah.

1355
01:23:50,910 --> 01:23:54,030
Andrew Wilson in Hampton,
Victoria, Australia who came in

1356
01:23:54,030 --> 01:23:58,410
with $1,000. Wow. Yes. Wow.
Indeed. Dear John and Adam,

1357
01:23:58,410 --> 01:24:01,680
thanks for a great show back in
565. You kindly gave me some no

1358
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,890
agenda karma. To my wife and
myself. We're trying for a baby,

1359
01:24:04,980 --> 01:24:09,150
I can proudly announce that my
lovely wife is now 13 weeks

1360
01:24:09,150 --> 01:24:12,840
pregnant and things are looking
good. Ah, now the rest of it

1361
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:13,230
just cut

1362
01:24:13,230 --> 01:24:16,200
I have after three years what I
have and I don't have any more.

1363
01:24:16,260 --> 01:24:16,590
That's all I

1364
01:24:16,590 --> 01:24:19,440
got this after three year. Well,

1365
01:24:20,670 --> 01:24:23,700
let me hand out some some extra.
This is what happens when you

1366
01:24:23,700 --> 01:24:26,610
know when you have your first
your wife is pregnant. And you

1367
01:24:26,610 --> 01:24:29,130
get past that magical three
months. So you get to you know,

1368
01:24:29,130 --> 01:24:33,120
week 13 Then you know you just
like you're buying stuff you're

1369
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:34,170
throwing money around.

1370
01:24:37,380 --> 01:24:40,110
And there's karma no

1371
01:24:40,110 --> 01:24:43,500
better place and tend to toss it
our way. Andrew, thank you very

1372
01:24:43,500 --> 01:24:47,520
much instantly. You've got
Carmen will be nodding him later

1373
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:48,510
on, of course.

1374
01:24:50,190 --> 01:24:55,020
And then we have a second
instant ICT. Paul Tao who

1375
01:24:55,020 --> 01:24:56,970
actually wrote a couple of
different notes I'm going to

1376
01:24:56,970 --> 01:25:00,330
play the one I think is most
appropriate. He's from He says

1377
01:25:00,330 --> 01:25:05,460
Qatar, he's in Qatar. Okay. He
now lives in Lombok wherever

1378
01:25:05,460 --> 01:25:09,210
that is. I'm back off shore now
and I noticed I made a donation

1379
01:25:09,210 --> 01:25:11,640
send a few photos. It's amazing
what a few drinks can do

1380
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,550
that. Yes, they sent the photos
right, dry.

1381
01:25:15,690 --> 01:25:18,570
Anyway, just a quick look and
give me a minute he wants to

1382
01:25:18,570 --> 01:25:21,810
milk call out some good luck
karma for the new holiday villa.

1383
01:25:23,250 --> 01:25:28,530
He was just getting Oh, he's in
Lombok, Indonesia. I think he

1384
01:25:28,530 --> 01:25:32,310
invited you to move to
Indonesia. My website is Naef

1385
01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:35,670
avila.net not finished. meant to
do it Sunday Monday, but it had

1386
01:25:35,670 --> 01:25:39,990
a few too many drinks instead. I
come from the UK work in Qatar

1387
01:25:39,990 --> 01:25:46,110
and now live in Lombok and a
sixth grade show and keep it and

1388
01:25:46,110 --> 01:25:48,810
keep it up. We will be donating
more soon. Wow.

1389
01:25:49,650 --> 01:25:52,260
Can you spell the this this
website of his

1390
01:25:52,830 --> 01:26:00,690
an IP a H na pa ni p h Villa V i
l l a.com? Leave his his

1391
01:26:00,690 --> 01:26:06,450
place.net or dotnet. Oops. I
just want to see it. Does he

1392
01:26:06,450 --> 01:26:08,190
have is this a place that we can
stay?

1393
01:26:09,420 --> 01:26:13,410
I believe I'm not sure maybe
nipa Villa finished so

1394
01:26:13,770 --> 01:26:18,000
if you Oh, wow. Oh my gosh. Oh
my gosh. Are you kidding me?

1395
01:26:18,270 --> 01:26:23,130
Relaxing, relaxing comfort in
your private villa. It looks

1396
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:30,150
awesome. Wow. Open January. Oh.
Oh, hello. Wow.

1397
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,370
Geez, hold on. We get there.

1398
01:26:32,460 --> 01:26:35,160
Each room can sleep up to four
people with a double bed and so

1399
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:39,780
who's going to sleep is a party
party palace. Full AC and room

1400
01:26:39,780 --> 01:26:43,770
fan? Beautiful ensuite shower
fitted wardrobe dress mirror.

1401
01:26:43,890 --> 01:26:48,570
wide choice of movies. Hello
porn and satellite TV available

1402
01:26:48,570 --> 01:26:52,110
cold mineral does he have Wi Fi?
He doesn't mention if he has you

1403
01:26:52,110 --> 01:26:55,260
got to have Wi Fi dude. If you
don't have Wi Fi then it's off.

1404
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,220
But look at it. She's got the
best connection you can get

1405
01:26:59,429 --> 01:27:03,059
is beautiful there. All right,
no call out and the karma.

1406
01:27:03,059 --> 01:27:11,669
Absolutely. That's one mother.
You've got karma. And just some

1407
01:27:11,669 --> 01:27:14,369
beautiful pictures of waterfall
and check

1408
01:27:15,870 --> 01:27:19,830
in i p h Villa dotnet. You
should if you're going to

1409
01:27:19,830 --> 01:27:23,580
Indonesia you might want to
consider that point. Lombok was

1410
01:27:23,580 --> 01:27:24,930
Lombok who cares?

1411
01:27:24,930 --> 01:27:29,220
It looks great. And well. Nice.
Nice, Paul. Thank you very much

1412
01:27:29,220 --> 01:27:31,260
and we will be knighting you as
well, my friend. Thank you.

1413
01:27:34,140 --> 01:27:38,190
I like the hustle and bustle of
the cities of Indonesia.

1414
01:27:38,850 --> 01:27:39,930
Yogyakarta is

1415
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:41,970
I have never been

1416
01:27:43,290 --> 01:27:45,120
hustling and bustling. Let's put
it that way

1417
01:27:45,150 --> 01:27:49,350
too. Because they're as well.
What do they have tuk? tuk tuk

1418
01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:49,770
tuk? So

1419
01:27:49,890 --> 01:27:51,930
those little things they drive
you around

1420
01:27:52,019 --> 01:27:55,949
those three wheel things? Yeah,
it's places is crawling with

1421
01:27:55,949 --> 01:27:57,239
tuktuks yeah, there's too

1422
01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:04,470
many. Okay, you're annoying.
Dean Sharkey, a $600. from

1423
01:28:04,470 --> 01:28:07,200
Calgary, Alberta, Canada a John
and Adam great work this. I

1424
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,960
think this makes me a night $2
And he's got some counting.

1425
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,740
Sorry for the delay and topping
this up. I can mention Tom

1426
01:28:13,740 --> 01:28:16,320
merits daily tech news show that
would be great. He loves you

1427
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,780
guys. He does. Yeah, he's

1428
01:28:18,810 --> 01:28:22,290
he's he's talked about us. Oh,
good for him. Yeah, he thinks

1429
01:28:22,290 --> 01:28:24,450
the value for value model is a
good idea.

1430
01:28:24,990 --> 01:28:28,620
We have a link to patreon.com
Ace detective to support the

1431
01:28:28,620 --> 01:28:31,800
daily best tech news out there.
Keep up the great work. Dean

1432
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,800
sharp GA in Calgary. Thank you.
So all the money is

1433
01:28:34,830 --> 01:28:36,780
thank you very much, Dean. It's
highly appreciate it and we'll

1434
01:28:36,780 --> 01:28:40,650
be needing you as well today.
Nice. That's a great day.

1435
01:28:40,890 --> 01:28:44,070
Now Daniel de West came in with
$500 from Bukit bought

1436
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:48,390
Deutschland. And he wrote an
extremely long note. I don't

1437
01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:49,980
know if we read this in advance.

1438
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,490
I read it almost something wrong
with my mic, man. What is going

1439
01:28:53,490 --> 01:28:55,890
on here? What is Hello,

1440
01:28:56,010 --> 01:28:57,090
filter it and post.

1441
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:02,700
Oh, something's happened.
Something bad is going on? All

1442
01:29:02,700 --> 01:29:03,930
right. Okay.

1443
01:29:05,850 --> 01:29:06,870
Let's see what we say yeah,

1444
01:29:07,290 --> 01:29:09,600
I'll send I'll send the file to
you to fix and post

1445
01:29:09,990 --> 01:29:13,890
it free. Thank you. I'll filter
it is free. It's something he

1446
01:29:13,890 --> 01:29:15,870
starts off. And I don't know if
we've missed the beginning

1447
01:29:15,870 --> 01:29:17,910
because it frees you as well as
the rest of us. I'm certain

1448
01:29:18,420 --> 01:29:20,970
you're missing the top line, I
believe in the value for value

1449
01:29:20,970 --> 01:29:24,660
model you both of us for your
show. And then it frees you as

1450
01:29:24,660 --> 01:29:26,940
well as the rest of us from a
certain level of information

1451
01:29:26,940 --> 01:29:30,540
control mandated by the state
and their corporate partners.

1452
01:29:30,780 --> 01:29:33,210
More people should consider
value for value as a way of

1453
01:29:33,210 --> 01:29:36,870
distributing content, whether
journalistic or artistic. Yes, I

1454
01:29:36,870 --> 01:29:37,290
agree.

1455
01:29:38,100 --> 01:29:40,620
It was not long ago, he
continues that journalists and

1456
01:29:40,620 --> 01:29:43,200
artists had joined together in
order to create an independent

1457
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,840
platform, distribute and
distribute ideas and commentary.

1458
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,960
Some more interesting and
influential than others run

1459
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:53,640
examples the Russian Formalists
from 1910 to 1930. Who saw that

1460
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,800
maybe I should do this in the
right voice, who sought an

1461
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:59,670
alternative perspective on
language and art and who and

1462
01:29:59,670 --> 01:30:02,910
writers still dangerous to the
state were eventually condemned

1463
01:30:02,910 --> 01:30:06,600
and hounded by Stalin. And the
authorities because the ideas

1464
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,690
are not simple enough for the
people. Many writers either

1465
01:30:09,690 --> 01:30:13,470
followed the state dictates or
fled, or were imprisoned and

1466
01:30:13,470 --> 01:30:14,100
tortured.

1467
01:30:14,610 --> 01:30:17,820
But you know, this was actually,
the his whole note is quite

1468
01:30:17,820 --> 01:30:20,250
beautiful. And what I'd like to
do is I'd like to put his whole

1469
01:30:20,250 --> 01:30:23,670
note into the show notes. So
people can read it, because

1470
01:30:23,700 --> 01:30:26,310
he's, he isn't noticed very
long. Yeah, but at some

1471
01:30:26,310 --> 01:30:30,150
historical perspective, about
what we're doing. Yeah. And how

1472
01:30:30,150 --> 01:30:39,060
it relates to history. And do
you remember John, maybe 10

1473
01:30:39,060 --> 01:30:45,360
years ago that particularly
liberals, were all concerned

1474
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:46,350
about the arts?

1475
01:30:48,030 --> 01:30:50,280
Well, they generally, always

1476
01:30:50,580 --> 01:30:55,620
well, no, no, that's not true.
Because now it's stem. Do you

1477
01:30:55,620 --> 01:30:58,710
remember it was like it's It's
an outrage or sorry? Should it

1478
01:30:58,710 --> 01:31:01,380
be hated him? The kids have, you
know, they only have one hour of

1479
01:31:01,410 --> 01:31:04,650
art class one hour of music?
This is no good. It's gonna be

1480
01:31:04,650 --> 01:31:07,740
horrible. And now they're all
stem. Yes, science, technology,

1481
01:31:07,740 --> 01:31:11,490
engineering and math. And are
interesting

1482
01:31:11,490 --> 01:31:15,990
point and Abend. That's one
point for a valid source of

1483
01:31:17,070 --> 01:31:17,820
observation.

1484
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:23,580
And so here is Daniel de west,
from Deutschland, who is saying,

1485
01:31:23,580 --> 01:31:27,120
hey, you know, there was a time
when artists were condemned and

1486
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,160
looks like those times are back
upon us my friend.

1487
01:31:30,300 --> 01:31:33,450
Yes, and he says those who do
nothing are surely doing

1488
01:31:33,450 --> 01:31:39,300
something. Yeah. Negative. But
anyway, want to thank him? Did

1489
01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:42,330
he go I don't see that he made
night with this, but if he did,

1490
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:46,050
please let us know. And we'll
throw it on lists next time to

1491
01:31:46,050 --> 01:31:49,920
random hillbillies in for
$333.33 from Elkins, West

1492
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,370
Virginia, your old stomping
grounds. John, I was going to

1493
01:31:53,370 --> 01:31:55,890
send this for the Sunday show,
but I was too busy getting ready

1494
01:31:55,890 --> 01:32:00,300
for my new job. I use my new job
karma to send to all producers

1495
01:32:00,300 --> 01:32:03,810
that 2014 will be the most
excellent. Our water is fine,

1496
01:32:03,810 --> 01:32:06,600
but my Adderall supply is
critical. Although we're stuck

1497
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:08,340
with weed to make it through the
winter.

1498
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,430
You'll do fine sir. Random
hillbilly, thank you for your

1499
01:32:11,430 --> 01:32:14,010
support as always from West
Virginia.

1500
01:32:16,140 --> 01:32:17,910
Sir gene that tool you have.

1501
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,990
That is the Behringer Mariott
the Sheriff of Texas,

1502
01:32:22,230 --> 01:32:26,670
the Sheriff of Texas 333 33 out
of Austin call out to Shane

1503
01:32:26,670 --> 01:32:32,040
Patton as a douchebag being a
longtime no no agenda listener

1504
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:35,790
doing very well financially and
not donate It's

1505
01:32:35,790 --> 01:32:37,140
an outrage. I tell you

1506
01:32:39,780 --> 01:32:43,830
Greg Porter is here with $200
from Jacksonville, Florida. Hi,

1507
01:32:43,830 --> 01:32:46,860
John and Adam. I had an
emergency appendectomy today, so

1508
01:32:46,860 --> 01:32:51,030
I'd like to request some
recovery karma Wow. For a while

1509
01:32:51,030 --> 01:32:54,870
I'm sitting here in the
hospital. Mac and cheese is what

1510
01:32:54,870 --> 01:32:59,040
set off the whole episode. And
so if I could get somehow get a

1511
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:04,860
fuck mac and cheese I just gave
him that so you can give him a

1512
01:33:04,860 --> 01:33:05,280
karma?

1513
01:33:05,460 --> 01:33:12,870
Yeah, okay. It's kind of crazy.
We've got karma. Wow. I'm sorry

1514
01:33:12,870 --> 01:33:15,300
to hear that mac and cheese.
Send it off, man. That's bad.

1515
01:33:16,140 --> 01:33:20,460
Yeah, it's Did you eat Mac?
Cause this problem

1516
01:33:20,490 --> 01:33:22,920
1212 I something was wrong with
me here.

1517
01:33:23,370 --> 01:33:24,900
What happened? I don't sound
fine.

1518
01:33:25,650 --> 01:33:46,890
221-221-2122 Shit. 21212122 tu
what is going on? 212212212 MK

1519
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:51,540
two. Sounds weird. All right,
well carry on the airframe

1520
01:33:51,540 --> 01:33:55,230
recording. Yeah, I'm recording.
You'll be able

1521
01:33:55,230 --> 01:33:59,550
to count to two now people like
three three say Jason Kirk and

1522
01:33:59,550 --> 01:34:03,420
COVID. Coggan Cogan, is Coggan
Cogan, I don't know station

1523
01:34:03,420 --> 01:34:07,710
comes from Vegas Cogan station I
think, I think so to $200. And

1524
01:34:07,710 --> 01:34:10,350
he has a note that he mailed
Okay, in the morning, Bob and

1525
01:34:10,350 --> 01:34:13,110
Ray I've been wanting to ditch
my Boehner status for some time

1526
01:34:13,110 --> 01:34:17,310
now and I finally decided I've
waited far too long. And I

1527
01:34:17,310 --> 01:34:20,040
figured if I'm going to do it, I
might as well become a producer

1528
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:24,210
at the same time. If you would
kindly de douche me and if you

1529
01:34:24,210 --> 01:34:27,390
could get some financial karma
my way it would be very greatly

1530
01:34:27,390 --> 01:34:29,670
appreciated as I'm trying to
actually save money and put away

1531
01:34:29,670 --> 01:34:32,550
for retirement but I'm finding
that life doesn't make that an

1532
01:34:32,550 --> 01:34:35,580
easy task. Also, I'll let you to
pick something off the

1533
01:34:35,580 --> 01:34:39,210
soundboard to play as I don't
feel I've donated enough to boss

1534
01:34:39,210 --> 01:34:44,010
you to around just yet. And PS
he says Keep up the great work

1535
01:34:44,010 --> 01:34:47,580
and he says PS told the gay
Crusader he did a great job on

1536
01:34:47,580 --> 01:34:50,520
the white paper that I've
already started hitting people

1537
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:58,110
in the mouth with awesome oh, my
just do this d do. You've been D

1538
01:34:58,110 --> 01:35:04,590
deuced? No Oh you've got karma

1539
01:35:06,990 --> 01:35:08,040
Hold on one second John.

1540
01:35:09,210 --> 01:35:13,770
Yeah, so we have these
mechanical problems have been

1541
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:15,210
plaguing me for a while it's not

1542
01:35:15,210 --> 01:35:17,520
a it's not necessarily a
mechanical problem but it could

1543
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:21,540
be electrical no actually it is
it seems like a potential metre

1544
01:35:22,020 --> 01:35:25,590
well when my car I talked about
this on the Yeah, you cruise to

1545
01:35:25,590 --> 01:35:28,290
cruise control, stop driving
along and then boom cruise

1546
01:35:28,290 --> 01:35:34,320
control dies on me. Of course my
car is 20 years old. My car my

1547
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,770
car is too old. And then I token
it, you know, I'm turning it on

1548
01:35:37,770 --> 01:35:41,280
and off and on or off and trying
to add nothing. And so then I'm

1549
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,320
coming back it still doesn't
work then all of a sudden starts

1550
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:47,970
working fine. Yeah, well, I just
found that to be peculiar.

1551
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:53,010
I had a problem. Back in the
day. In 1988. I had a Rolls

1552
01:35:53,010 --> 01:35:57,180
Royce silver shadow to remember
those days when I was rich and

1553
01:35:57,180 --> 01:36:01,920
it had a cruise control that
stopped working but this cruise

1554
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,130
control the way the Brits did it
and you can look this up. In

1555
01:36:05,130 --> 01:36:10,110
this particular vehicle they use
the bellows a an actual except

1556
01:36:10,110 --> 01:36:15,090
the weird is the bellows and the
bellows would get suctioned. And

1557
01:36:15,090 --> 01:36:18,150
that's what would then because
for some reason, they always had

1558
01:36:18,150 --> 01:36:21,330
to have something in between the
control and the actual

1559
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:25,500
electronic or the actual
mechanics. So they had like this

1560
01:36:25,500 --> 01:36:28,200
bellows and the bellows will air
would get sucked in and then

1561
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:30,900
that would pull the accelerator
cable. But of course, the

1562
01:36:30,900 --> 01:36:34,110
bellows was made of rubber and
it wasn't a new car. And it

1563
01:36:34,110 --> 01:36:36,630
eventually you know, just gets
leaky and porous and then the

1564
01:36:36,660 --> 01:36:40,470
cruise control stopped working.
And that's your little car

1565
01:36:40,470 --> 01:36:41,460
history for today.

1566
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:45,270
Somebody gave me a story once
about how you tune a British

1567
01:36:45,270 --> 01:36:49,650
triumph motorcycle and how
screwy the whole way it works is

1568
01:36:49,650 --> 01:36:54,060
it's just weird. Anyway, let's
get back to our people. What was

1569
01:36:54,060 --> 01:36:57,600
that? I didn't say anything or
go out on me again. No, hello?

1570
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:01,080
Hello. Hello. I'm here. Okay,
nevermind. Did your cruise

1571
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:05,340
control go out? Christian
Schlatter in Luthor, Seguin,

1572
01:37:05,340 --> 01:37:10,440
thaw, Switzerland. Enjoy your
show a lot. Please don't make it

1573
01:37:10,440 --> 01:37:15,480
shorter. By the way, Davos is
spelled with S at the end, since

1574
01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:18,510
it is part of the German
speaking part of Switzerland. So

1575
01:37:18,510 --> 01:37:22,050
we're supposed to say Davos. It
spelled that way. Didn't say

1576
01:37:22,050 --> 01:37:24,810
pronounced that way. Okay. But I
think that maybe you do

1577
01:37:24,810 --> 01:37:29,550
pronounce it that way, I guess,
Davos, Davos, Joel oral or

1578
01:37:29,550 --> 01:37:37,440
Bondo. Ovando Joe Bondo and come
in come in Georgia. In the

1579
01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:39,120
morning, gentlemen, the first
donor like they asked for

1580
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:42,120
forgiveness and a deed douching.
Since I've been listening to the

1581
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:45,630
show for six months, and I have
not invested in the show. Oh,

1582
01:37:45,660 --> 01:37:48,480
your donation levels of late
have made me concerned that the

1583
01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:52,020
experiment of value for value
may fail. And thus no more of

1584
01:37:52,020 --> 01:37:56,280
your deep insight and analysis
of day to day media bullcrap. I

1585
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:59,730
will step up my donations once I
get my degree, he says another

1586
01:37:59,730 --> 01:38:02,010
student into student I love
that. But for now you have a

1587
01:38:02,010 --> 01:38:06,330
slice of my alcohol and and you
have a slice of my alcohol

1588
01:38:06,330 --> 01:38:09,750
annual allowance. Please give me
some comments since I'm moving

1589
01:38:09,750 --> 01:38:14,190
to a new apartment in March. But
what's funny here, we had the

1590
01:38:14,190 --> 01:38:17,130
two notes that came in by email,
both of them wanted the same

1591
01:38:17,130 --> 01:38:19,620
thing at D douching. And karma
isn't that interesting, kind of

1592
01:38:19,620 --> 01:38:21,540
a coincidence or another random
number theory.

1593
01:38:21,570 --> 01:38:23,850
But let's let's hand it out to
him right now. And thank you

1594
01:38:23,850 --> 01:38:32,100
very much for your courage.
You've been de deuced you've got

1595
01:38:32,250 --> 01:38:33,480
karma ice.

1596
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:38,730
That concludes our executive and
Associate Executive Producer

1597
01:38:38,730 --> 01:38:41,220
segment of the show and remind
people that we do have another

1598
01:38:41,220 --> 01:38:45,330
show coming up on Sunday, which
was kind of a failure in terms

1599
01:38:45,330 --> 01:38:49,710
of our support last week. No
agenda show.com no agenda

1600
01:38:49,710 --> 01:38:53,880
nation.com have donate buttons,
also divorce.org/na which is the

1601
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:57,240
key support page and also
channel of work done if you

1602
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:58,050
can't find that.

1603
01:38:58,500 --> 01:39:03,030
And I want to thank sir face of
FEMA five who has registered

1604
01:39:03,030 --> 01:39:09,360
20 thirty.com spelled Fallout
20 thirty.com And he also

1605
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:12,510
registered 20 thirty.org. Both
of them of course, pointing to

1606
01:39:12,630 --> 01:39:17,400
know Jim shorter com along with
the 2030 Club. Lots of articles

1607
01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:22,800
in the show notes today.
Regarding 2030. I said this meme

1608
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,850
is is really it's really, really
happening. In fact, NPR even

1609
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:30,090
propagated it just the other
day. Here's NPR though it's

1610
01:39:30,090 --> 01:39:33,750
better than simply doing and by
the way, NPR apparently I said

1611
01:39:33,780 --> 01:39:36,630
British people all the time now
because it sounds so much more

1612
01:39:36,630 --> 01:39:40,620
official. I guess it's a tool.
It's not an awful lot better.

1613
01:39:40,740 --> 01:39:44,520
Doug power of Greenpeace. He
claims the world must cut carbon

1614
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:49,860
emissions by at least 55% Before
the year 2030. But the EU is

1615
01:39:49,860 --> 01:39:52,080
proposing a 40% cut instead.

1616
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:56,970
Yeah, baby, join the 2030 club.
You can make lots of money, send

1617
01:39:56,970 --> 01:40:00,510
money to us. It's a great
system. We continue to propagate

1618
01:40:00,510 --> 01:40:04,350
2030 is the year of Armageddon.
That's right.

1619
01:40:07,140 --> 01:40:09,570
Hello? Yeah. Armageddon. Yeah, I

1620
01:40:09,570 --> 01:40:13,170
don't know if you're bound not
saying anything with all of our

1621
01:40:13,230 --> 01:40:15,240
mechanical problems, we don't
know what's going to happen.

1622
01:40:17,130 --> 01:40:19,380
So yes, wheels will be falling
off of things.

1623
01:40:19,500 --> 01:40:22,230
Now suddenly, we do have another
show, please a support to the

1624
01:40:22,230 --> 01:40:27,840
programme.org/and. And of
course, we would like you to do

1625
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,930
one thing always go out and
propagate the formula. Our

1626
01:40:30,930 --> 01:40:35,370
formula is this. We go out, we
hit people in the mouth

1627
01:40:48,030 --> 01:40:54,630
just mixing it up, just mixing
it up a little bit. Wow, I have

1628
01:40:54,630 --> 01:40:58,230
so much that we have there's
just too much for the show

1629
01:40:58,230 --> 01:41:02,490
today. But most importantly, I
think we need to thank Brian

1630
01:41:02,490 --> 01:41:07,980
Heiss known as Brian the great
the gay Crusader who released

1631
01:41:07,980 --> 01:41:10,860
the 129 page white paper.

1632
01:41:11,460 --> 01:41:17,190
I didn't expect it to be such a
monster. Did you left no stone

1633
01:41:17,190 --> 01:41:17,910
unturned?

1634
01:41:17,940 --> 01:41:22,080
Yeah. And as I worked with him
on this, oh, he did the work but

1635
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:26,220
he would send me chapters and
and, and his main thing was I

1636
01:41:26,220 --> 01:41:31,140
don't want anyone to be able to
get aid any leeway every base

1637
01:41:31,140 --> 01:41:34,860
has to be covered. I would hate
it he said if someone figured

1638
01:41:34,860 --> 01:41:38,370
out a way to you know,
essentially die look at this is

1639
01:41:38,370 --> 01:41:42,480
bullcrap. And I think he I think
he pretty much got all the bases

1640
01:41:42,480 --> 01:41:45,840
covered really. I think he
realised

1641
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:51,270
that this is like a screed from
a paranoid there was there was

1642
01:41:51,270 --> 01:41:54,690
nothing he left out and there's
no book that nobody can argue

1643
01:41:54,690 --> 01:41:56,970
against. I think that's why it
didn't get any you know, because

1644
01:41:56,970 --> 01:41:59,460
there wasn't any of these you
know, these picky guys you know

1645
01:41:59,460 --> 01:42:03,750
the guys who say, Oh, yeah Star
Trek uniform that letter badges

1646
01:42:03,750 --> 01:42:07,140
down and it shouldn't be
according to the Star Trek

1647
01:42:07,140 --> 01:42:07,770
manual.

1648
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:10,890
And so he's now people have been
sending they've been hitting

1649
01:42:10,890 --> 01:42:14,670
people in the mouth with it of
course, but also been posting it

1650
01:42:14,670 --> 01:42:18,840
to the on the gay Reddit
subreddit. Like almost no come

1651
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:22,110
one guy of course, you know,
like the gays are the last

1652
01:42:22,110 --> 01:42:26,670
people to find this interesting.
Which irks me to no end. But

1653
01:42:26,670 --> 01:42:29,280
then on put it another Reddit
and then kind of a couple of

1654
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:34,800
nice really nice comments and I
think one of those here I felt

1655
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:36,810
so foolish for not seeing this
for what it really was. These

1656
01:42:36,810 --> 01:42:39,720
are just comments. I was
honestly convinced that Russia

1657
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:43,020
was making moves to grossly
violate human rights. I effing

1658
01:42:43,020 --> 01:42:47,250
hate how effective and
coordinated us propaganda is. It

1659
01:42:47,250 --> 01:42:51,060
is good. Someone else said this
is the best this is. This is

1660
01:42:51,060 --> 01:42:57,780
someone's this is this
disappoints me. This is why

1661
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:03,930
people hate America because
propaganda is so thorough. Yeah,

1662
01:43:04,470 --> 01:43:05,430
no kidding.

1663
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:10,200
Well, that's what gurbles was,
uh, you know, he became a great

1664
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,060
propagandist because he

1665
01:43:12,090 --> 01:43:14,910
there is no, there is no war
one. There is no are in

1666
01:43:14,910 --> 01:43:16,950
Goebbels. Yeah, whatever. It's
like, you know,

1667
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:20,160
we mispronounce a lot of names.
I like saying, girl, well,

1668
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:24,600
that's fine. And there was a lot
of propaganda done in world war

1669
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,360
one that made the Germans look
like a bunch of monkeys and all

1670
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:30,930
the rest of it. And it found
that, you know, well, yeah, we

1671
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,000
too can play at that game. And
he was pretty good.

1672
01:43:33,690 --> 01:43:36,570
So as I've been looking at a lot
of these, a lot of these groups

1673
01:43:36,570 --> 01:43:39,540
and what is happening, and of
course, this, this comes kind of

1674
01:43:39,540 --> 01:43:44,430
right on time that this white
paper comes out. Because there's

1675
01:43:44,460 --> 01:43:47,880
a lot of weird things are
happening based on this

1676
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:51,120
propagandistic move which was
started by Harvey Firestein of

1677
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:55,830
all people. But just to give you
an idea of really how annoying

1678
01:43:55,860 --> 01:43:58,950
to me this is very, very
annoying that based upon this

1679
01:43:58,950 --> 01:44:06,570
lie we now have Melissa
Etheridge was certainly one of

1680
01:44:06,570 --> 01:44:11,070
the most well known lesbians
when it comes to celebrate ease

1681
01:44:11,730 --> 01:44:16,020
with uprising of love. And you
really John, please go to

1682
01:44:16,050 --> 01:44:21,450
uprising of love.org, which has
Hangouts on the air powered by

1683
01:44:21,450 --> 01:44:27,480
Google. Yes. Join uprising of
love in support of the safety

1684
01:44:27,480 --> 01:44:31,230
and dignity of lesbian, gay,
bisexual, transgender and

1685
01:44:31,260 --> 01:44:37,050
intersex Russians. Are you
kidding me? You are now

1686
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:42,450
officially using this to raise
money for gay activists in

1687
01:44:42,450 --> 01:44:45,840
Russia. And look at the people
who are on board with this. Look

1688
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:49,530
at this. And all these people
should be shamed for not looking

1689
01:44:49,530 --> 01:44:50,280
really into.

1690
01:44:50,850 --> 01:44:52,320
I'm fine. What a crowd.

1691
01:44:52,440 --> 01:44:57,330
I mean, we've got Andy Cohen,
he's Madonna, Ed Harris. Alan

1692
01:44:57,330 --> 01:45:03,240
coming. Oh, just the whole Ah,
everybody's on board without

1693
01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:06,810
even looking at what's happening
and look at the sponsorships.

1694
01:45:06,810 --> 01:45:13,260
And then I'm like who is who is
behind this? So you if you go to

1695
01:45:13,260 --> 01:45:16,080
donate now and you know me, I
love finding all the

1696
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:21,420
organisations that are a part of
this. And I was able to trace

1697
01:45:21,420 --> 01:45:23,880
this back through three
nonprofits This is how

1698
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:28,050
disgusting This is, to me. Is
this nonprofits based on

1699
01:45:28,050 --> 01:45:31,650
nonprofits based on nonprofits
and if you follow it all the way

1700
01:45:31,650 --> 01:45:36,270
through this uprising of love,
you ultimately get to the Arcus

1701
01:45:36,270 --> 01:45:40,530
Foundation, who are apparently
paying for this and well, I

1702
01:45:40,530 --> 01:45:43,110
guess they'll be taking the
money in and the Arcus

1703
01:45:43,110 --> 01:45:49,830
foundation is pretty much solely
maintained by John Lloyd

1704
01:45:49,830 --> 01:45:54,690
Stryker, which is a great porn
name, by the way, but he's not a

1705
01:45:54,690 --> 01:45:57,510
porn artist. He's an American
architect, philanthropist and

1706
01:45:57,510 --> 01:46:00,600
activist for social
environmental causes. He is a

1707
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:03,360
billionaire stockholder and heir
to the Stryker Corporation

1708
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,900
medical supply company fortunes
of his grandfather, Homer

1709
01:46:06,900 --> 01:46:11,520
Stryker, and his net worth is
estimated one to $1.2 billion

1710
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:17,550
dollars. So we put a whole bunch
of, of stock into this

1711
01:46:17,550 --> 01:46:21,060
foundation. So this it's it's
heavily front loaded, got lots

1712
01:46:21,060 --> 01:46:26,490
of dough, and people are soaking
the guy that's soaking him. He's

1713
01:46:26,490 --> 01:46:32,820
gay. And he's a big he,
primarily, the Arcus Foundation

1714
01:46:33,450 --> 01:46:37,170
supports two causes sexual
orientation and gender equality

1715
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:44,370
and apes, which is an
interesting combo. apes and

1716
01:46:44,370 --> 01:46:48,540
gays, I don't know why, but that
seems to be his main things. But

1717
01:46:48,540 --> 01:46:53,280
I'm really annoyed about this
entire group of people. And

1718
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:58,260
let's add to that we have a big
concert coming up. Sponsored by

1719
01:46:58,260 --> 01:47:02,280
human rights, Amnesty
International, bringing human

1720
01:47:02,310 --> 01:47:07,290
rights home with Madonna and
Pussy Riot is everyone is going

1721
01:47:07,290 --> 01:47:10,500
to this you have done that this
is money making. They're taking

1722
01:47:10,500 --> 01:47:13,650
money for tickets, they're
everyone's paying themselves.

1723
01:47:13,650 --> 01:47:16,140
You can look at the form 990s
I've linked it all in the show

1724
01:47:16,140 --> 01:47:18,510
notes. Everybody gets paid.
Everybody gets a salary

1725
01:47:18,510 --> 01:47:20,760
everybody gets their expenses
taken care of. And then

1726
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:23,550
whatever's leftover we're going
to send to some other nonprofit

1727
01:47:23,550 --> 01:47:27,960
in Russia, because the poor gays
apparently have no money to add

1728
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:34,230
to be activists or whatever.
Don't fall for this people. This

1729
01:47:34,230 --> 01:47:44,010
is bull. Bringing human rights
home. The Amnesty concert pussy

1730
01:47:44,010 --> 01:47:47,550
ride. Yeah, that's a great show.
Have you ever actually heard

1731
01:47:47,550 --> 01:47:49,110
Pussy Riot perform

1732
01:47:50,370 --> 01:47:54,210
this you might as well have
three versions of Yoko Ono

1733
01:47:56,400 --> 01:48:00,030
sad, it's really it's, it makes
me mad. You know, we're big

1734
01:48:00,030 --> 01:48:04,200
proponents of the LGBTQ Qi
community. And this is a rip

1735
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:07,170
off. It's just people just
scamming money.

1736
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:10,320
This is and this is this is a
shocker to you.

1737
01:48:11,129 --> 01:48:15,179
Um, you know, when I want the
gays and the lesbians and the

1738
01:48:15,179 --> 01:48:18,659
transgendered and the intersex
and the bisexuals and the que

1739
01:48:18,659 --> 01:48:22,679
que ir and curious and whatever,
I want you to understand that

1740
01:48:22,709 --> 01:48:25,829
there are people who are just
taking money just because it's

1741
01:48:25,829 --> 01:48:27,659
what they do. They don't give
up. They don't really don't

1742
01:48:27,659 --> 01:48:31,949
care. It's all pretend. It's
like Haiti, does it no one know

1743
01:48:31,949 --> 01:48:34,019
the money isn't actually going
towards anything. It's just to

1744
01:48:34,019 --> 01:48:36,299
have a concert and everyone to
go, oh, it's like change your

1745
01:48:36,299 --> 01:48:39,359
Twitter icon. That's what it's
the equivalent to change your

1746
01:48:39,359 --> 01:48:45,839
Twitter icon. It's not really
doing anything. And the BBC, of

1747
01:48:45,839 --> 01:48:50,789
course, continues to proper
propagandise. They had a great

1748
01:48:50,789 --> 01:48:56,939
report here it is. interviewing
the mayor of Sochi with, of

1749
01:48:56,939 --> 01:49:00,629
course, a translation voice in
voice over so we don't really

1750
01:49:00,629 --> 01:49:02,939
know what the mayor said. But
it's all right. The message is

1751
01:49:02,939 --> 01:49:03,569
clear. It's

1752
01:49:03,570 --> 01:49:07,590
a big question for some
Olympians and Paralympians as to

1753
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:12,240
how they will be treated in
Russia. And to find out more

1754
01:49:13,140 --> 01:49:18,060
we're going to a place with no
name and no sign above the door.

1755
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:20,700
The reason it's a gay bar

1756
01:49:21,660 --> 01:49:23,250
so the guy is in Sochi

1757
01:49:23,940 --> 01:49:27,510
plenty of places and he's and
he's walking reason there's no

1758
01:49:27,510 --> 01:49:30,630
name there's what if there was a
name it couldn't be a gay bar

1759
01:49:30,690 --> 01:49:33,870
is this is such a propaganda
report.

1760
01:49:37,770 --> 01:49:41,040
Russia's new law bans the
promotion of non traditional

1761
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:46,110
sexuality to underage teens.
Critics say the law is draconian

1762
01:49:46,230 --> 01:49:49,380
and it effectively outlaws gay
rights protest

1763
01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:53,100
without notice how the report
only highlights what one side

1764
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:57,360
says critics say doesn't say
what other people think or what

1765
01:49:57,390 --> 01:50:00,660
you know what would may be a
conversation on Oh, it's

1766
01:50:00,660 --> 01:50:05,010
draconian. And it outlaws
homosexuality injustice across

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01:50:05,010 --> 01:50:06,480
the board, BBC.

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01:50:06,570 --> 01:50:11,160
So how does the math feel about
gay people in Sochi? In our

1769
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:13,140
town? Don't have them in the
sun.

1770
01:50:14,190 --> 01:50:17,130
The mayor apparently says we
don't have gays in our town.

1771
01:50:17,130 --> 01:50:19,260
This is this is the BBC report
issue.

1772
01:50:20,070 --> 01:50:24,330
No, I'm not sure. I didn't know
them. I went to a go bar last

1773
01:50:24,330 --> 01:50:24,630
night,

1774
01:50:24,660 --> 01:50:29,400
I don't bloody know them. That.
I don't know if there is a a

1775
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:33,810
Russian word that translates the
way bloody translates in British

1776
01:50:33,810 --> 01:50:37,920
English. Which is where if you
say bloody, that's a worst swear

1777
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:43,530
word than fuck. So this is a
very skewed translation.

1778
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:47,670
Will gay people be welcomed to
the Sochi Olympics, NASA gets to

1779
01:50:47,670 --> 01:50:50,760
be our hospitality will be
extended to everyone who

1780
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:54,060
respects the laws of the Russian
Federation, and who doesn't

1781
01:50:54,090 --> 01:50:58,770
impose their habits and their
will on others. So yes, everyone

1782
01:50:58,800 --> 01:50:59,370
is welcomed.

1783
01:51:00,059 --> 01:51:03,629
And then it goes on and on and
on and on. It's just more more

1784
01:51:03,629 --> 01:51:06,689
of the same. So please, people
download a copy of the white

1785
01:51:06,689 --> 01:51:11,999
paper. It is in the show notes
today. And you can find it under

1786
01:51:11,999 --> 01:51:15,809
the if Russia column. And of
course, we've tweeted links to

1787
01:51:15,809 --> 01:51:19,259
it as well. And if you are a
subscriber to the newsletter,

1788
01:51:19,679 --> 01:51:22,439
and we always have a link to
subscribe to the newsletter in

1789
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:26,009
every single copy of our show
notes, then you will have

1790
01:51:26,009 --> 01:51:29,249
already received your copy. And
it's quite an enjoyable read. I

1791
01:51:29,249 --> 01:51:31,919
think I think it's a good job. I
think it's, there's a lot of

1792
01:51:31,919 --> 01:51:35,339
legalese in there, which you can
you can skim past the bits you

1793
01:51:35,339 --> 01:51:38,819
want to but there's very
colourful. And that kind of

1794
01:51:38,819 --> 01:51:43,319
shows what we've been saying all
along that gays are mistreated

1795
01:51:43,319 --> 01:51:47,309
worse in the United States of
America and in many other

1796
01:51:47,309 --> 01:51:51,239
countries. And that is not
discussed at all, it is not

1797
01:51:51,239 --> 01:51:54,359
propagandise. And it's obvious
that we need to make the

1798
01:51:54,359 --> 01:51:56,009
Russians look bad.

1799
01:51:56,640 --> 01:52:02,460
Well, and this is all at least
one train of thought is that

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01:52:02,970 --> 01:52:07,800
because Putin took in Snowden,
yeah. And he needs to be

1801
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:10,350
punished. So there we punishing
him, this is going to make him

1802
01:52:10,350 --> 01:52:14,430
look like an idiot. And it
continues from there. So let's

1803
01:52:14,430 --> 01:52:16,830
we're talking about that part of
the world. Let's jump to the

1804
01:52:16,830 --> 01:52:18,960
Ukraine, which we're not
following close enough.

1805
01:52:19,019 --> 01:52:22,229
I do have a few things. But what
do you what do you have? Well,

1806
01:52:22,229 --> 01:52:22,439
once

1807
01:52:22,440 --> 01:52:26,070
you throw your stuff out there?
Well, I saw

1808
01:52:26,100 --> 01:52:31,650
a an interesting news piece,
haiku Herman, the president of

1809
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:38,250
the Euro lands, and he welcomed
Putin to Brussels. And I heard

1810
01:52:38,250 --> 01:52:41,970
something and I just decided to
investigate. Here's a little

1811
01:52:41,970 --> 01:52:43,260
snippet of this report,

1812
01:52:43,830 --> 01:52:47,190
a more stable economic and
institutional environment,

1813
01:52:47,670 --> 01:52:52,890
improved market access, and
intensified trade relations with

1814
01:52:52,890 --> 01:52:57,450
Rankin demand and create new
business opportunities for all

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01:52:57,690 --> 01:53:02,100
that can be different
interpretations and

1816
01:53:02,100 --> 01:53:06,420
misunderstandings on the
association agreements. And

1817
01:53:06,420 --> 01:53:12,120
that's why we both agreed to
pursue bilateral consultations

1818
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:15,900
at expert level on the Eastern
Partnership Association

1819
01:53:15,900 --> 01:53:20,700
agreements, and the economic
consequences on both sides.

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01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:24,360
European Union is closely
following the developments in

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01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:28,650
Ukraine and strongly condemns
violence, we call for restraint

1822
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:32,850
and those responsible have to be
held to account. We want the

1823
01:53:32,850 --> 01:53:36,150
fundamental freedoms, such as
the freedom of expression and

1824
01:53:36,150 --> 01:53:37,680
assembly preserved.

1825
01:53:38,670 --> 01:53:43,710
So I when I heard this report, I
heard Eastern Partnership, and

1826
01:53:43,710 --> 01:53:47,550
that apparently, Putin had to
come to Brussels because there

1827
01:53:47,580 --> 01:53:52,410
was some confusion about the
interpretation. And this could

1828
01:53:52,410 --> 01:53:56,370
only mean one thing, that
there's some agreement that

1829
01:53:56,370 --> 01:54:02,610
we're not aware of, that Putin
is a part of, and lo and behold,

1830
01:54:02,970 --> 01:54:06,180
the Eastern Partnership, the
European Union and Eastern

1831
01:54:06,180 --> 01:54:09,180
Europe, and I have the documents
right here in the show notes.

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01:54:10,350 --> 01:54:13,230
The Eastern Partnership is a
joint initiative involving the

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01:54:13,230 --> 01:54:19,110
European Union, EU member states
and Armenia, Azerbaijan,

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01:54:19,710 --> 01:54:26,970
Belarus, Georgia, Moldova, and
Ukraine. Now, if you look at all

1835
01:54:26,970 --> 01:54:30,540
these particular countries on
the map, they have one very

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01:54:30,540 --> 01:54:32,280
specific thing in common.

1837
01:54:34,230 --> 01:54:36,360
They have a border with Russia,
probably, yeah,

1838
01:54:36,390 --> 01:54:42,750
a border between Russia and the
EU. So Belarus is interesting,

1839
01:54:42,750 --> 01:54:46,260
because Bella Rousses is right
above Ukraine. And these are all

1840
01:54:46,590 --> 01:54:48,510
pipeline, I just call them
pipeline states.

1841
01:54:48,540 --> 01:54:51,570
There's something there's also a
GE, we have to always understand

1842
01:54:51,570 --> 01:54:54,870
the geopolitical aspect of this
to pipeline. If you're Russia

1843
01:54:54,870 --> 01:54:56,970
sending stuff out and you have
all these border countries.

1844
01:54:57,030 --> 01:54:59,220
Yeah, they're all going to be
pipeline states because you

1845
01:54:59,220 --> 01:55:01,710
can't get there. or from here,
you have to go through one of

1846
01:55:01,710 --> 01:55:06,540
these. Right. But Russia has
traditionally since the 1700s.

1847
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:11,070
And that's why the Soviet Union
formed develop this, this method

1848
01:55:11,100 --> 01:55:14,700
of protecting itself, because
the Europeans kept attacking

1849
01:55:14,700 --> 01:55:18,960
them, beginning of not beginning
with, but even pre Napoleon. And

1850
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:22,200
so they put, they put buffer
states between the Mother

1851
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:27,810
Russia, and the Europeans are
always trying to grow in there.

1852
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:31,800
I mean, even Napoleon tried it,
Hitler tried it. And so they

1853
01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:35,130
feel they, they feel this need
to have these, they don't want

1854
01:55:35,130 --> 01:55:38,340
to be bumped up against anything
that's European, even though

1855
01:55:38,340 --> 01:55:40,530
there's culturally the
Ukrainians are never going to be

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01:55:40,530 --> 01:55:44,490
very European, but they still
date. So this is like a paranoid

1857
01:55:44,490 --> 01:55:47,760
thing that goes way beyond and
goes a lot deeper than just

1858
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:50,700
worrying about pipelines that
they're freaky. Well, it's

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01:55:50,730 --> 01:55:54,660
there's an actual agreement,
it's called the DC FTA. This is

1860
01:55:54,660 --> 01:55:59,520
what they were discussing in
Brussels. And I have to tell you

1861
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:03,480
that this is a lot of theatre.
John, what's going on is in a

1862
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:08,400
very clear European Union
Ukraine agreement, it's called

1863
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:13,200
deep and comprehensive free
trade area, the DC FTA.

1864
01:56:14,250 --> 01:56:20,550
Well, what you might be implying
that there is a an extortion

1865
01:56:20,550 --> 01:56:23,070
game going on here too, because
obviously, if you're going to do

1866
01:56:23,070 --> 01:56:25,410
a deal with the Russians and
includes all these other states,

1867
01:56:25,410 --> 01:56:27,630
these other states have to be
part of that. Yeah. All of a

1868
01:56:27,630 --> 01:56:29,070
sudden be part of the EU.

1869
01:56:29,100 --> 01:56:34,230
No, no, but this isn't the this
is the mistake. I think the we I

1870
01:56:34,230 --> 01:56:38,700
certainly was making and in
believing that somehow Ukraine

1871
01:56:38,700 --> 01:56:41,640
was being asked to join the EU,
nothing could be further from

1872
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:45,360
the truth. The deep and
comprehensive free trade area.

1873
01:56:45,390 --> 01:56:50,490
DCFTA is part of the association
agreement between the EU and the

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01:56:50,490 --> 01:56:53,670
Republic of Ukraine. These
Association agreements are what

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01:56:53,700 --> 01:56:57,660
this is not becoming part of the
European Union. It is a free

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01:56:57,660 --> 01:57:02,160
trade agreement. Chapter one
removed customs duties on

1877
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:03,750
imports and exports.

1878
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:06,180
Right. But it wasn't this
separate from the deal done with

1879
01:57:06,180 --> 01:57:10,500
the Russians did which included
the Ukrainian deal, no, this the

1880
01:57:10,500 --> 01:57:13,890
Ukrainians stopped this. I mean,
the Russians stopped or somebody

1881
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:16,860
or actually the president of the
Ukraine suspended the

1882
01:57:16,860 --> 01:57:19,560
preparations for signing that
agreement you're talking about

1883
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:23,370
and why because Putin had to go
to Brussels, because as you

1884
01:57:23,370 --> 01:57:27,300
heard the President just say,
the interpretation of the

1885
01:57:27,300 --> 01:57:31,200
details was problematic. So
they're hashing out some detail.

1886
01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:36,780
And Putin is a part of this.
This whole thing and Ukraine is

1887
01:57:36,780 --> 01:57:43,170
just I'm, I'm totally believing
now. That this is it is only

1888
01:57:43,170 --> 01:57:47,070
about one agreement, and it's
about the numbers. And they just

1889
01:57:47,100 --> 01:57:51,660
both sides. Just start this crap
in Ukraine, just to get everyone

1890
01:57:51,660 --> 01:57:54,540
to the table. And Putin did go
to the table. He went to

1891
01:57:54,540 --> 01:57:58,290
Brussels to work on this deal
specifically on this deal,

1892
01:57:58,560 --> 01:57:59,730
because we interpret

1893
01:58:00,060 --> 01:58:04,800
yours so you don't think if I'm
not mistaken from your persona,

1894
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:07,590
you don't think the State
Department's behind all the bull

1895
01:58:07,590 --> 01:58:08,910
crap going on in the Yes,

1896
01:58:08,940 --> 01:58:11,610
I think the State Department is
behind one half of the bull

1897
01:58:11,610 --> 01:58:15,390
crap. And I think the the
Russian State Department is

1898
01:58:15,390 --> 01:58:17,820
behind the other half of the
bull crap out let's look

1899
01:58:17,820 --> 01:58:20,100
at it. Let's look at our State
Department aren't more

1900
01:58:20,100 --> 01:58:24,030
interesting than theirs. Let's
hear that about the Ukrainian

1901
01:58:24,030 --> 01:58:28,350
using social media in much the
same way. Although carries not

1902
01:58:28,350 --> 01:58:30,150
as good as how we do it. Man.

1903
01:58:30,150 --> 01:58:31,380
This is this is what we do.

1904
01:58:31,410 --> 01:58:34,860
This is what carries not as good
as Hillary, at least his people

1905
01:58:35,100 --> 01:58:37,560
aren't as good as Hillary. So
it's a little bit it's a little

1906
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:38,550
slipshod,

1907
01:58:38,580 --> 01:58:41,130
he has no leadership. She can
Yeah, he doesn't he doesn't lead

1908
01:58:41,130 --> 01:58:41,700
his PISA

1909
01:58:41,700 --> 01:58:44,700
what he's doing but let's play
you, Ukraine, Twitter and catch

1910
01:58:44,700 --> 01:58:45,630
up with what's going on.

1911
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:53,370
When we don't lay siege to
administration, we lay siege to

1912
01:58:53,370 --> 01:58:57,030
Twitter. This tweet posted by
Ukrainian web user sums up an

1913
01:58:57,030 --> 01:59:00,030
operation launched by anti
government protesters on Monday,

1914
01:59:00,270 --> 01:59:02,940
and with the ongoing protests,
which began over two months ago,

1915
01:59:03,180 --> 01:59:06,180
in and around kyiv's
Independence Square, now dubbed

1916
01:59:06,210 --> 01:59:10,320
Euromaidan by demonstrators, the
activists initiative called upon

1917
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:13,050
supporters of the movement that
world over to face tweets in

1918
01:59:13,050 --> 01:59:15,810
massive numbers to show support
for the anti government

1919
01:59:15,810 --> 01:59:18,450
protesters in Ukraine and call
for backing from the

1920
01:59:18,450 --> 01:59:21,690
international community. Online
campaigning propelled the

1921
01:59:21,690 --> 01:59:25,560
digital maiden hashtag to number
one position on Twitter, topping

1922
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:27,210
worldwide trending topics.

1923
01:59:28,770 --> 01:59:31,110
Yeah, well, of course, what do
we have to change it now? Is

1924
01:59:31,110 --> 01:59:32,490
there is there a particular icon
I

1925
01:59:32,490 --> 01:59:36,000
haven't gotten that far, but
digital made? in.com is kind of

1926
01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:37,920
the thing you want to look at
and spelled with an

1927
01:59:38,010 --> 01:59:39,570
A right, Ma?

1928
01:59:40,770 --> 01:59:48,900
Ma? Ma N? Yeah. Dan actually
refers to the square deaths in

1929
01:59:48,900 --> 01:59:52,230
the Ukraine. So we're now have a
digital version, in other words,

1930
01:59:52,230 --> 01:59:56,190
a virtual version of this giant
square. And so now we're having

1931
01:59:56,190 --> 01:59:58,410
the same thing that we saw when
we had this little strife

1932
01:59:58,410 --> 02:00:01,020
between Georgia and Russia. We
have a website.

1933
02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:04,080
I have a little a little
interesting tidbit for you.

1934
02:00:05,100 --> 02:00:13,560
Regarding Ukraine chapter nine
intellectual property there are

1935
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:16,980
big problems with patents and
geographical indications known

1936
02:00:16,980 --> 02:00:23,880
as G eyes. The protection will
be immediate for most EU G eyes

1937
02:00:23,910 --> 02:00:27,150
this is brand brand names but
some names long used by

1938
02:00:27,150 --> 02:00:30,240
Ukrainian producers will be
phased out over different

1939
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:33,300
periods of time. You ready for
the names?

1940
02:00:33,809 --> 02:00:35,009
I'm all ears,

1941
02:00:35,219 --> 02:00:44,279
champagne, cognac, Madeira,
Porto, Jerez, Sherry Calvados,

1942
02:00:44,309 --> 02:00:51,359
grappa, Ionis por tu GEZ,
Armagnac, Marsala Malaga and

1943
02:00:51,359 --> 02:00:55,709
Toka. Those have 10 years to be
phased out apparently the you

1944
02:00:55,709 --> 02:00:57,119
can't use those words.

1945
02:00:57,480 --> 02:00:59,490
Well for good reason and seven

1946
02:00:59,490 --> 02:01:06,900
years for bottom is Yano oregano
Reggiano, or rock for and Fetta.

1947
02:01:07,170 --> 02:01:08,460
Kudu. Fetta is

1948
02:01:08,460 --> 02:01:11,970
a brand I didn't know about feta
being a protected name. I had no

1949
02:01:11,970 --> 02:01:15,870
idea about that either. I wonder
about that one. Because fat is

1950
02:01:15,870 --> 02:01:19,110
made into many countries, it's
always called Federer. But the

1951
02:01:19,110 --> 02:01:21,660
other stuff is a trademark
violation that they've been

1952
02:01:21,660 --> 02:01:24,630
fighting the champagne people in
particular, they were fighting

1953
02:01:24,630 --> 02:01:27,450
because we used to use the word
champagne on our sparkling

1954
02:01:27,450 --> 02:01:30,720
wines. And I think we still do
in some instances, but it's not

1955
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:33,240
champagne. Unless it comes from
Champagne. The French are always

1956
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:37,440
irked when they see some cheap
plonk with the name champagne on

1957
02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:39,630
it was not champagne. It's just
as bubbling wine.

1958
02:01:39,750 --> 02:01:42,900
The parties commit themselves to
let market prices prevail on the

1959
02:01:42,900 --> 02:01:45,810
domestic gas and electricity
markets and not to regulate

1960
02:01:45,810 --> 02:01:49,350
prices for industry. Neither
party will impose prices for

1961
02:01:49,350 --> 02:01:53,220
exporting energy products which
are higher than domestic prices.

1962
02:01:54,780 --> 02:01:57,720
As a part of the treaty,
interrupting transit or taking

1963
02:01:57,720 --> 02:02:00,600
energy goods from transit that
are destined for the other party

1964
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:07,650
is prohibited. That's what this
is about. It's about transit of

1965
02:02:07,650 --> 02:02:13,290
energy. And Putin just wants to
make sure that that everything

1966
02:02:13,290 --> 02:02:14,070
works for him.

1967
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:20,190
Well, they definitely want to
get to Putin wants to keep Viet

1968
02:02:20,220 --> 02:02:25,620
Yanukovych. And the our State
Department wants to get rid of

1969
02:02:25,620 --> 02:02:30,780
him. Because this side that
digital made in sight is run by

1970
02:02:30,780 --> 02:02:33,030
a New York public relations
company.

1971
02:02:34,110 --> 02:02:35,160
Which company is that?

1972
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:47,550
You can go to it its website is
go b w d.com gobwd.com? Yeah,

1973
02:02:47,550 --> 02:02:55,530
gobwd.com go be WD as they are
the ones who own this website,

1974
02:02:55,530 --> 02:02:58,170
if you look into it, and they're
the ones that are pushing the

1975
02:02:58,170 --> 02:03:00,540
digital made and thing and
they've got some and it's a very

1976
02:03:00,540 --> 02:03:05,790
interesting company. They have a
they are just an all purpose,

1977
02:03:05,790 --> 02:03:08,820
you know, international group.
Yeah, good. Fine.

1978
02:03:08,850 --> 02:03:10,500
I like this a lot. Yeah. So

1979
02:03:10,500 --> 02:03:13,350
you convince so this so that's
the State Department side of

1980
02:03:13,350 --> 02:03:16,740
things that has to be ordered.
You know, it's possible the only

1981
02:03:17,070 --> 02:03:20,250
outside there's an outside
chance because the guy is so

1982
02:03:20,250 --> 02:03:23,670
rich. That the boxer that's
there.

1983
02:03:24,510 --> 02:03:25,800
Yeah, right. Right, right. Yeah,
I

1984
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:28,140
know what you mean. What's his
name? What's their last name of

1985
02:03:28,140 --> 02:03:32,310
these two guys, their brothers
and their guys is they're worth

1986
02:03:32,310 --> 02:03:34,230
millions and millions of
dollars. And they can easily

1987
02:03:34,260 --> 02:03:37,770
cost you about 10 grand to work
could be WD to put together

1988
02:03:37,770 --> 02:03:40,470
something and they they do a
little better. I don't know if

1989
02:03:40,470 --> 02:03:44,010
they're doing a good job on
purpose. And by making the

1990
02:03:44,010 --> 02:03:47,250
website look like it could be
like a homegrown because it's

1991
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:51,840
it's crappy looking digital made
in sight, or they're just a

1992
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:54,900
crappy operation. But their
website is slick enough to make

1993
02:03:54,900 --> 02:03:58,260
me think that they specifically
because if you remember the GA

1994
02:03:58,260 --> 02:04:03,960
sites that we looked at way too
slick for a for a for a

1995
02:04:03,990 --> 02:04:05,190
grassroots thing. Well, they

1996
02:04:05,190 --> 02:04:13,050
also have here the Ukrainian
Genocide awareness website which

1997
02:04:13,050 --> 02:04:15,090
is a charity organisation.

1998
02:04:15,870 --> 02:04:21,090
Yeah, that probably refers back
to that Russian starvation thing

1999
02:04:21,090 --> 02:04:25,230
the Russians did do a bunch of
country. Yes. Polo them right.

2000
02:04:25,230 --> 02:04:27,600
People need do need. It's like
It's like the Armenians are

2001
02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:28,740
still irked about that,

2002
02:04:28,950 --> 02:04:32,670
by the way, progress of
agreements according to the EU

2003
02:04:32,670 --> 02:04:36,750
Eastern Partnership. Ukraine was
supposed to it says here if

2004
02:04:36,750 --> 02:04:41,460
conditions met Ukraine should
have signed in 2013 a Georgia

2005
02:04:41,460 --> 02:04:46,740
and Moldova to initial in 2013.
Azerbaijan, that's the big one

2006
02:04:46,740 --> 02:04:50,010
because that's where that's
where they've got all of the all

2007
02:04:50,010 --> 02:04:54,540
of the the Baku you know that's
where all the oil fields are the

2008
02:04:54,540 --> 02:04:57,690
gas field. That's huge. still
negotiating the agreement

2009
02:04:57,690 --> 02:05:04,740
Armenia process disconnect
Minute. And Belarus so far known

2010
02:05:04,740 --> 02:05:09,240
to get no negotiations, but I
would say as with Ukraine the

2011
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:13,440
way it is, if they don't work it
out with Putin, I'd say Bella

2012
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:17,370
Rousses on on deck next. I mean,
they're just above Ukraine. It's

2013
02:05:17,370 --> 02:05:21,060
a it's a great, you know, it's
just as good I'd say.

2014
02:05:22,500 --> 02:05:25,680
Yeah, I'm sure that'll happen to
we're in pretty good. So Vitaly

2015
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:28,350
Klitschko, who is the guy who's
always given the speeches, and

2016
02:05:28,350 --> 02:05:32,040
he's in the Ukraine. And he was
actually meeting with the with

2017
02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:35,880
the head guide, couple days ago,
he has a net worth of $65

2018
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:40,890
million, which goes a long way
to, you know, doing some some

2019
02:05:40,890 --> 02:05:45,690
damage in a country like to
Ukraine. So it's not that

2020
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:48,960
you can get a lot of hours from
a PR company. And that's for

2021
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:51,900
sure. Yeah. What else you got
from Ukraine.

2022
02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:55,830
The other part is just the
second half of the Twitter

2023
02:05:55,830 --> 02:05:57,930
stuff. That's what kind of
triggered the whole thing.

2024
02:05:58,170 --> 02:06:01,260
There's obvious our State
Department if this Vitaly is not

2025
02:06:01,260 --> 02:06:05,790
doing the whole thing himself.
We've got to be in on this.

2026
02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:08,700
Let me play the second bit see
what's in there. A purpose built

2027
02:06:08,700 --> 02:06:12,300
website had a list of pre
written tweets cyber activists

2028
02:06:12,300 --> 02:06:16,710
can use to target international
media outlets, for example, and

2029
02:06:16,710 --> 02:06:19,800
urge them to investigate
suspicions that Moscow sent

2030
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:23,670
troops to Russia to help Kyiv
suppress the unrest. Other

2031
02:06:23,670 --> 02:06:27,150
tweets reached out to Western
political leaders such as Barack

2032
02:06:27,150 --> 02:06:31,110
Obama or David Cameron, urging
them to impose sanctions on

2033
02:06:31,110 --> 02:06:34,410
Ukraine in response to the
continued use of violence

2034
02:06:34,410 --> 02:06:38,640
against protesters. This YouTube
video has been relaying a

2035
02:06:38,640 --> 02:06:42,240
similar message. It features
activists asking web users from

2036
02:06:42,240 --> 02:06:45,840
across the globe to lobby their
political representatives and

2037
02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:49,020
ask them to take targeted
measures against the Ukrainian

2038
02:06:49,020 --> 02:06:49,890
authorities.

2039
02:06:53,070 --> 02:06:54,120
Obviously, it's,

2040
02:06:54,690 --> 02:06:56,730
there was there's some funny
videos coming out of there.

2041
02:06:56,880 --> 02:07:00,300
There was one about a week ago,
where Vitaly Klitschko they

2042
02:07:00,300 --> 02:07:04,320
would write rioting a little too
much at the moment. And so he's

2043
02:07:04,320 --> 02:07:06,810
standing in front of some bus
with his microphone telling him

2044
02:07:06,810 --> 02:07:11,430
to calm down. And some guy I
guess he had a fire extinguisher

2045
02:07:12,750 --> 02:07:17,100
and it was the powders. Just let
the entire extinguisher go on to

2046
02:07:18,690 --> 02:07:19,590
cover him. Cool.

2047
02:07:20,070 --> 02:07:24,990
Have you back off? Have you ever
unloaded a powder fire

2048
02:07:24,990 --> 02:07:25,740
extinguisher?

2049
02:07:27,060 --> 02:07:28,080
I've sprayed one

2050
02:07:28,080 --> 02:07:30,660
once. My god that's fun.

2051
02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:32,640
It's a lot of stuff in there.

2052
02:07:33,570 --> 02:07:34,860
It never ends.

2053
02:07:35,880 --> 02:07:40,170
Yeah. I remember one time I
decided store I was working for

2054
02:07:40,170 --> 02:07:45,750
Ford Motor Company was there. So
there was a there was a small

2055
02:07:45,750 --> 02:07:51,420
fire that had broken out on top
of one of the paint booths. And

2056
02:07:51,420 --> 02:07:54,210
it was just a little fire and
was just starting to go. And

2057
02:07:54,210 --> 02:07:57,780
some guys freaked out. He grabs
one of these things. One of the

2058
02:07:57,780 --> 02:08:00,630
powder ones and he pulls the
trigger on it and there was just

2059
02:08:01,740 --> 02:08:05,070
had nothing in Oh really? Oh
man. I'm wondering how many do

2060
02:08:05,070 --> 02:08:06,840
we found when that finally
worked. But it was like

2061
02:08:07,050 --> 02:08:09,540
wondering how many dead fire
extinguishers are all over the

2062
02:08:09,540 --> 02:08:11,910
place to give you a sense of
confidence. They

2063
02:08:11,940 --> 02:08:16,530
have an absolute shelf life. As
part of my when I had the

2064
02:08:16,530 --> 02:08:21,240
aircraft when I had the Cessna,
you have to have a fire

2065
02:08:21,240 --> 02:08:24,210
extinguisher on board and it has
to be replaced I think is

2066
02:08:24,210 --> 02:08:27,900
probably every year. It has it
has a date on it. And it's done.

2067
02:08:27,900 --> 02:08:29,580
And you got to get rid of it got
to get a new one.

2068
02:08:30,300 --> 02:08:34,680
Well, or you have to have it
reloaded depending I have one. I

2069
02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:40,650
have one of the giant huge The
thing is almost 100 pounds, co2

2070
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:45,540
fire extinguisher that came off
of a Liberty ship that was being

2071
02:08:47,250 --> 02:08:50,310
destroyed, you know, chopped up
in Richmond. And they had all

2072
02:08:50,310 --> 02:08:53,340
these fire extinguishers outside
and they were just you wanted

2073
02:08:53,340 --> 02:08:56,790
one, you could just take it. And
so I took it and this thing,

2074
02:08:56,820 --> 02:09:01,770
just thing it just put down on a
house fire. But it also has to

2075
02:09:01,770 --> 02:09:05,880
be looked at or refilled every
so often does. Have you heard

2076
02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:11,880
this, these reports from the UK
about people not being able to

2077
02:09:11,880 --> 02:09:14,250
access their money at HSBC.
Yeah,

2078
02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:16,920
yeah, it's all over the place.
There's been two or three

2079
02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:19,950
stories and most of them the one
that goes to the agenda,

2080
02:09:19,950 --> 02:09:24,270
mainstream media in the US goes
like this guy goes in and then

2081
02:09:24,300 --> 02:09:28,140
this is the right wing radio
guys using this when the guy

2082
02:09:28,140 --> 02:09:33,360
goes in to age SBC, and he says
I want to take out $10,000 And

2083
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:35,820
then they start grilling and why
you want the money. Because my

2084
02:09:35,820 --> 02:09:39,450
mother I owe $10,000 And I want
to pay it back to her. I don't

2085
02:09:39,450 --> 02:09:42,690
know why doesn't write her a
check, but okay. And the guy

2086
02:09:42,690 --> 02:09:43,770
says no, it's well,

2087
02:09:44,130 --> 02:09:47,820
this is UK. They don't have
checks. He but he wants it. That

2088
02:09:47,820 --> 02:09:50,250
would make sense. He wants to
take it out cash and then give

2089
02:09:50,250 --> 02:09:53,310
it cash. It's about the cash.
It's about actually taking.

2090
02:09:53,670 --> 02:09:56,280
He can't do it. He says What can
I take out so they can't tell

2091
02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:59,580
you? Well, okay, I want to take
out 5000 No, I can't take a

2092
02:09:59,580 --> 02:10:02,700
Flettner Oh, says okay, I want
to take a four No, three, can I

2093
02:10:02,700 --> 02:10:05,190
take out three? Yeah, you can
take out three, well, can I come

2094
02:10:05,190 --> 02:10:07,830
back in 10 minutes and take out
another three says no, it's

2095
02:10:07,830 --> 02:10:12,030
three a day. That's the that's
the story as it's been floating

2096
02:10:12,030 --> 02:10:14,190
around hand to mouth, but this

2097
02:10:14,190 --> 02:10:17,310
by the way will happen to you in
America too. If you if you go to

2098
02:10:17,310 --> 02:10:19,950
a bank and say I want to take
out you know, if you have it, if

2099
02:10:19,950 --> 02:10:23,100
you say I want to take out
$10,000 or $20,000, you will get

2100
02:10:23,100 --> 02:10:28,680
you will they will not say Oh,
here you go, sir. You will, the

2101
02:10:28,710 --> 02:10:32,250
manager will come out will talk
to you about it. And the reason

2102
02:10:32,850 --> 02:10:37,530
is that is fractional banking.
Because 10,000, you can multiply

2103
02:10:37,530 --> 02:10:41,700
that times I think it's 100
times 90 or something not

2104
02:10:41,700 --> 02:10:46,770
the only reason. Well, there's,
it's a big, you can finish this,

2105
02:10:46,770 --> 02:10:50,970
but there's a there's a lot of
scammers that have been ripping

2106
02:10:50,970 --> 02:10:54,360
off old ladies, for example.
Sure. And they always demand

2107
02:10:54,360 --> 02:10:56,850
that the old lady go to the this
has been well documented, they

2108
02:10:56,850 --> 02:10:59,760
go to the bank to take some of
their savings out to give to the

2109
02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:02,220
scammer because he's going to
fix the roof or whatever. And

2110
02:11:02,220 --> 02:11:05,370
the bank will grill the old lady
about this. And then they find

2111
02:11:05,370 --> 02:11:07,290
out who this is this is going to
get the money and then they'll

2112
02:11:07,290 --> 02:11:11,670
call the police. So it's not
just fractional banking, that's

2113
02:11:11,670 --> 02:11:12,840
an issue here.

2114
02:11:14,730 --> 02:11:22,080
Okay. So you're saying that if
you go to the bank, and this

2115
02:11:22,080 --> 02:11:26,130
happens to you, that is because
your bank is protecting you?

2116
02:11:26,130 --> 02:11:29,130
Because there might be you know,
you're an old guy, and you know,

2117
02:11:29,130 --> 02:11:31,710
gee, we have to really be
careful because someone could be

2118
02:11:31,710 --> 02:11:33,360
tricking John, is that it?

2119
02:11:34,080 --> 02:11:37,800
Yeah. Okay. But I think I can
walk into the mechanics bank

2120
02:11:37,950 --> 02:11:42,000
tomorrow and take $10,000 out in
cash. Put it back if I want to

2121
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:44,220
or not without anybody saying
anything.

2122
02:11:44,730 --> 02:11:49,230
Okay. I've heard these stories
happening all over. And yeah,

2123
02:11:49,950 --> 02:11:53,280
I'm sure there's a part of that.
But if you if you know,

2124
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:58,380
I know these banks are there,
they don't have any money. Well,

2125
02:11:58,380 --> 02:12:02,670
yeah, they probably that would
10,000 was all they have. That

2126
02:12:02,670 --> 02:12:03,180
often

2127
02:12:03,210 --> 02:12:07,500
is the case that that's all they
have on hand in the actual bank

2128
02:12:07,860 --> 02:12:13,560
is maybe 10 grand in cash.
That's funny. Why I mean, so of

2129
02:12:13,560 --> 02:12:16,230
course this is being played in
the alternative media as bank

2130
02:12:16,230 --> 02:12:20,190
run, collapsing. I don't think
that's going to happen.

2131
02:12:20,550 --> 02:12:24,780
Ya know, that. This being played
funny, I have to agree. But it's

2132
02:12:24,810 --> 02:12:25,980
this story is interesting,

2133
02:12:26,070 --> 02:12:28,860
but more interesting is the
bankers who are killing

2134
02:12:28,860 --> 02:12:34,410
themselves, suiciding
themselves. We have the JP

2135
02:12:34,410 --> 02:12:41,130
Morgan executive who plunged to
his death. Oh, 33 stories. Oops.

2136
02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:42,960
Always love that.

2137
02:12:43,050 --> 02:12:44,190
Oh, I missed that. Yeah.

2138
02:12:45,090 --> 02:12:49,890
That's a great one. Yeah, yeah,
there's the end. So see, we will

2139
02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:53,370
see a 39 year old JP Morgan bank
executive died this morning if

2140
02:12:53,370 --> 02:12:57,870
you jumped while he only jumped
500 feet from the top of the

2141
02:12:57,870 --> 02:13:03,060
banks European headquarters.
What is a 33 storey skyscraper

2142
02:13:03,060 --> 02:13:06,360
which is mentioned casually ad
nauseam, got to get the 33 in

2143
02:13:06,360 --> 02:13:10,110
there. Two days earlier, fellow
American Banker banker was found

2144
02:13:10,110 --> 02:13:14,850
hanging in his South Kensington
home who still kills themselves

2145
02:13:14,850 --> 02:13:21,750
by hanging this and this also is
the way that this assistant to

2146
02:13:21,750 --> 02:13:25,230
Lamar Alexander killed himself.
Yeah, hanging my hanging. I

2147
02:13:25,230 --> 02:13:29,430
looked into this because this
pedo bear stuff is always

2148
02:13:29,430 --> 02:13:35,100
interesting. I looked into the
actual complaint slash

2149
02:13:35,100 --> 02:13:38,220
indictments Yeah, he left a
letter he which is published

2150
02:13:39,000 --> 02:13:47,010
this guy's name is Jesse Ryan
last carne. Last carne. And so

2151
02:13:47,190 --> 02:13:51,300
there's no website Jesse Jesse
Ryan lost Carnes last

2152
02:13:51,300 --> 02:13:56,760
message.com wherein he, his
parents have handed over

2153
02:13:56,760 --> 02:14:01,170
apparently a letter not a
suicide note but a a note of him

2154
02:14:01,170 --> 02:14:07,740
apologising and then saying that
he was abused and how you know

2155
02:14:07,740 --> 02:14:13,320
how this led up to his interest
in child pornography. But if you

2156
02:14:13,320 --> 02:14:18,930
look at the actual the actual
documentation there's something

2157
02:14:18,930 --> 02:14:23,250
very sketchy about this what
what happened is key downloaded

2158
02:14:23,250 --> 02:14:31,050
two movies. Both which involved
very young female children very

2159
02:14:31,050 --> 02:14:34,200
graphic by the way that the
description in the in the police

2160
02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:40,650
documents, which actually it's
the postal Fraud Unit. And so we

2161
02:14:40,650 --> 02:14:43,410
downloaded these two, two
movies, this is all that it's

2162
02:14:43,410 --> 02:14:47,850
about two movies, and they were
made available from his IP

2163
02:14:47,850 --> 02:14:55,290
address on Nutella. And that's
what they busted him on. They

2164
02:14:55,290 --> 02:15:01,260
came to his house. The claim is
that he put a A removable hard

2165
02:15:01,260 --> 02:15:06,120
drive on the roof or outside the
window, which they then

2166
02:15:06,120 --> 02:15:10,290
retrieved. And of course, we
don't really know if they that

2167
02:15:10,290 --> 02:15:13,440
could be placed there, which is
that's the way it's written into

2168
02:15:13,440 --> 02:15:16,950
this because outside Yeah, it's
very sketchy heat, the guy never

2169
02:15:16,950 --> 02:15:21,120
admitted that he placed it
there. And on that drive word,

2170
02:15:21,120 --> 02:15:24,360
these two movies and this entire
thing is based upon these two

2171
02:15:25,530 --> 02:15:29,760
videos on some dubious hard disk
that seems to be outside. Yes.

2172
02:15:30,330 --> 02:15:34,980
That's the easily retrievable,
that's it not just outside but

2173
02:15:34,980 --> 02:15:36,090
outside where they get

2174
02:15:36,120 --> 02:15:39,150
outside on the outside the
window where they when they got

2175
02:15:39,150 --> 02:15:42,240
it from outside. And they claim
they saw him place it there,

2176
02:15:42,240 --> 02:15:46,470
which, you know, of course, why
would you do that? Exactly. So

2177
02:15:46,500 --> 02:15:51,330
it's the whole thing is rather
sketchy. And the fact that he

2178
02:15:51,360 --> 02:15:55,140
you know, you know, the trial
was coming up, it happened in

2179
02:15:55,140 --> 02:15:59,670
December the trial supposed to
be in February? It's, yeah,

2180
02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:04,380
child pornography is a huge
problem. But for them to track

2181
02:16:04,380 --> 02:16:11,130
down these two movies. And I'm
not quite sure. What, how this

2182
02:16:11,130 --> 02:16:16,800
came about. You know, it's like,
do we have is the mail postal

2183
02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:21,690
fraud service, just tracking
Nutella IP addresses? You know,

2184
02:16:21,690 --> 02:16:26,130
this is very unclear to me. And
I would say that this looks like

2185
02:16:26,130 --> 02:16:30,030
it's a part of something much,
much, much, much bigger, that he

2186
02:16:30,030 --> 02:16:31,320
may have been involved in.

2187
02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:35,160
I know something about Yeah, it
was one thing

2188
02:16:35,160 --> 02:16:37,830
for sure. If you want to look at
child trafficking and child

2189
02:16:37,830 --> 02:16:41,850
pornography, and child abuse,
Washington, DC and surrounding

2190
02:16:41,850 --> 02:16:48,090
areas, pretty good place to go.
And I have a couple links in the

2191
02:16:48,120 --> 02:16:52,920
show notes. Space specifically
about DC the DC area and it's

2192
02:16:53,010 --> 02:16:59,250
it's, it's, it's out of control.
We'll never know. Of course,

2193
02:16:59,250 --> 02:17:00,480
we'll never know exactly what's
going on.

2194
02:17:00,750 --> 02:17:05,940
We'll never know it's no 33
involved, apparently. No, I

2195
02:17:05,940 --> 02:17:11,910
couldn't find a 33 Wow. So I
picked up a bunch of interesting

2196
02:17:11,910 --> 02:17:14,610
little sub clips from the
hearings, different hearings,

2197
02:17:15,330 --> 02:17:16,020
and

2198
02:17:18,420 --> 02:17:20,670
by different douchebags now
there's some of it, some are

2199
02:17:20,670 --> 02:17:23,550
just laced with really
interesting information that we

2200
02:17:23,550 --> 02:17:26,490
don't normally know about it. I
would like to push a couple of

2201
02:17:26,490 --> 02:17:32,190
those out. In does Durbin, who's
I don't know what he was trying

2202
02:17:32,190 --> 02:17:36,810
to prove. But he decided to
reveal all kinds of statistics

2203
02:17:36,810 --> 02:17:40,020
and facts that I thought was
quite interesting. This is the

2204
02:17:40,020 --> 02:17:42,450
facts and figures of the federal
prison system.

2205
02:17:42,480 --> 02:17:45,810
But we talked about a federal
prison population.

2206
02:17:47,549 --> 02:17:50,459
That is actually that that's the
facts and figures from that this

2207
02:17:50,459 --> 02:17:54,269
is Leahy, we can skip that for
now. When it gets to this other

2208
02:17:54,269 --> 02:17:59,249
one, where is the federal is the
Charlie Rose drones within the

2209
02:17:59,249 --> 02:18:01,439
well played here play this one.
This is another one of these.

2210
02:18:01,679 --> 02:18:04,799
This is uh, this was the one
that talks about drones within

2211
02:18:04,799 --> 02:18:06,059
the US. And this is I think, is

2212
02:18:06,060 --> 02:18:09,690
Leahy and uses from which
senatorial thesis from the

2213
02:18:09,690 --> 02:18:11,400
Justice Department oversight
committee.

2214
02:18:12,150 --> 02:18:20,430
What plans? Does justice private
have to use? Drones within the

2215
02:18:20,430 --> 02:18:24,690
US for law enforcement purposes?
And, and what kind of safeguards

2216
02:18:24,690 --> 02:18:32,010
are being developed by the
Orwellian aspect of them, I find

2217
02:18:32,550 --> 02:18:33,450
very chilling.

2218
02:18:34,530 --> 02:18:38,940
With regard to these use of
these unmanned aerial systems at

2219
02:18:38,940 --> 02:18:41,160
this point, the only component
within the department that is

2220
02:18:41,160 --> 02:18:47,250
using them in an operational way
is the FBI. And I think we have

2221
02:18:47,250 --> 02:18:50,370
to understand that they if used
appropriately, they can

2222
02:18:50,850 --> 02:18:54,900
determine purpose. This holder
does that a lot when he's lying.

2223
02:18:55,260 --> 02:18:59,310
If you remember the young child
who was held hostage in a

2224
02:18:59,310 --> 02:19:01,890
tunnel, I think it was in
Georgia or Alabama someplace.

2225
02:19:01,980 --> 02:19:04,770
No, I don't remember that. Do
you remember that? No, I don't

2226
02:19:04,770 --> 02:19:05,790
remember this at all.

2227
02:19:06,690 --> 02:19:13,320
Use was made of a drone in that
case and proved decisive in

2228
02:19:13,350 --> 02:19:17,190
resolving that situation in a
good way. The inspector general

2229
02:19:17,190 --> 02:19:19,710
in the Justice Department has
recommended that we come up with

2230
02:19:19,740 --> 02:19:23,370
a uniform system of rules and
regulations within the

2231
02:19:23,370 --> 02:19:27,660
department to control how these
these devices are used. And that

2232
02:19:27,660 --> 02:19:29,910
is something that I support and
something that we will be

2233
02:19:30,030 --> 02:19:33,180
developing and that I'd like to
work with you on the government

2234
02:19:33,180 --> 02:19:35,100
and I think other members of the
committee on both sides

2235
02:19:35,459 --> 02:19:38,849
can stop that clip. I just I'll
summarise we're getting drones.

2236
02:19:39,510 --> 02:19:44,580
Yeah. And currently the US
Customs has grounded their drone

2237
02:19:44,580 --> 02:19:49,860
fleet after they had to crash a
drone off the off the coast

2238
02:19:49,860 --> 02:19:50,970
there in California.

2239
02:19:51,360 --> 02:19:52,740
I think these things are
hackable.

2240
02:19:54,180 --> 02:19:57,480
Now they're not just hackable,
it's just it's in general. It's

2241
02:19:57,480 --> 02:20:01,050
just not a great idea. Just not
a great It's good to have

2242
02:20:01,080 --> 02:20:01,920
airman.

2243
02:20:02,820 --> 02:20:05,940
Yeah, well, those days are gonna
be over there as you predicted.

2244
02:20:05,970 --> 02:20:07,080
Oh yeah, they're not okay. Now

2245
02:20:07,080 --> 02:20:09,390
here's dirt. This is the clip.
This is the one that's got the

2246
02:20:09,390 --> 02:20:12,060
facts and figures. It's kind of
interesting. This is Gitmo facts

2247
02:20:12,060 --> 02:20:12,810
and figures.

2248
02:20:13,140 --> 02:20:16,920
But we talked about a federal
prison population. This is

2249
02:20:16,920 --> 02:20:18,690
somebody who concerns, facts and

2250
02:20:18,690 --> 02:20:20,280
figures. I'm sorry.

2251
02:20:21,300 --> 02:20:23,610
I thought you were setting it up
differently. Here's Gitmo facts

2252
02:20:23,610 --> 02:20:24,240
and figures.

2253
02:20:24,869 --> 02:20:30,209
wheels of justice question
number two 155 detainees remain

2254
02:20:30,239 --> 02:20:35,189
at Guantanamo. I want to say for
the record, this has been the

2255
02:20:35,189 --> 02:20:39,569
subject of a lengthy debate here
in Congress, the President made

2256
02:20:39,569 --> 02:20:43,289
his intentions clear when
elected to close Guantanamo. And

2257
02:20:43,289 --> 02:20:48,359
yet resistance in Congress has
thwarted him from accomplishing

2258
02:20:48,359 --> 02:20:53,189
that. For those who want an
establishment of the record,

2259
02:20:53,189 --> 02:20:57,089
over 500 people had been
convicted of terrorism and

2260
02:20:57,089 --> 02:21:02,129
terrorism related crimes through
our judicial process since 911.

2261
02:21:02,819 --> 02:21:07,319
in federal courts, in contrast,
there have been six convictions

2262
02:21:07,349 --> 02:21:10,949
and one plea agreement from
Guantanamo's military

2263
02:21:10,949 --> 02:21:14,009
commissions. Two of those
commission convictions have been

2264
02:21:14,009 --> 02:21:18,209
overturned, the most dangerous
terrorists who've been convicted

2265
02:21:18,209 --> 02:21:24,119
through our judicial system
reside in our prison system, and

2266
02:21:24,149 --> 02:21:29,249
the worst of the worst in
maximum security. We spend, on

2267
02:21:29,249 --> 02:21:33,899
average $78,000 A year and
facilities like Florence,

2268
02:21:34,049 --> 02:21:37,589
Colorado, maximum security to
hold the most dangerous

2269
02:21:37,589 --> 02:21:39,959
criminals in America, including
the most dangerous terrorists,

2270
02:21:40,109 --> 02:21:44,129
and there has never ever, ever
been an escape or question that

2271
02:21:44,129 --> 02:21:48,929
they would escape. We are
spending for the 155 detainees

2272
02:21:48,929 --> 02:21:56,219
in Guantanamo, on average, not
$78,000, a year $2.7 million a

2273
02:21:56,219 --> 02:22:01,649
year per detainee. It is an
outrageous waste of taxpayers

2274
02:22:01,649 --> 02:22:02,309
dollars. Can

2275
02:22:02,310 --> 02:22:05,730
I Can is it not so that the
President can just use his phone

2276
02:22:05,730 --> 02:22:07,590
and his pen and just close it

2277
02:22:07,710 --> 02:22:11,370
with that if you that clip that
you had last week or last show?

2278
02:22:12,000 --> 02:22:14,820
Yeah, where it's what he said he
was going to do is gonna use an

2279
02:22:14,820 --> 02:22:17,340
executive order to close it. Why
doesn't

2280
02:22:17,340 --> 02:22:18,480
he just do this now?

2281
02:22:19,170 --> 02:22:20,580
Well, you that you tell me

2282
02:22:21,720 --> 02:22:24,630
that we were going to start a
process to start reviewing the

2283
02:22:24,630 --> 02:22:30,000
155 detainees, in the hopes that
we could dispose of some

2284
02:22:30,480 --> 02:22:34,950
dismissed some transfer some. It
took a long time to get started.

2285
02:22:35,310 --> 02:22:39,150
The wheels of justice,
unfortunately, went very slowly.

2286
02:22:40,110 --> 02:22:42,750
The president issued an
executive order in March of

2287
02:22:42,750 --> 02:22:47,880
2011. The first periodic review
board hearing at Guantanamo took

2288
02:22:47,880 --> 02:22:52,410
place in November of last year.
And earlier this month, the

2289
02:22:52,410 --> 02:22:55,200
board recommended the transfer
of the first detainee in

2290
02:22:55,200 --> 02:23:01,080
question. The second periodic
review board hearing occurred

2291
02:23:01,080 --> 02:23:05,640
yesterday. I'm glad to hear this
progress has been made. But with

2292
02:23:05,640 --> 02:23:12,360
155 detainees, 71 of whom are
eligible for evaluation. As

2293
02:23:12,360 --> 02:23:15,030
Attorney General we can't live
long enough to go through this

2294
02:23:15,030 --> 02:23:20,970
process at $2.7 million a year,
hurt Guantanamo detainee.

2295
02:23:22,110 --> 02:23:28,350
Hold on. I just heard that the
President issued an executive

2296
02:23:28,350 --> 02:23:31,920
order in November 2011. Is that
Is that not what he said?

2297
02:23:32,070 --> 02:23:36,840
Yeah. I have the executive order
was to review the cases

2298
02:23:36,870 --> 02:23:39,750
review and disposition of
individuals detained at the

2299
02:23:39,750 --> 02:23:42,660
Guantanamo Bay naval base and
disclosure of detention

2300
02:23:42,660 --> 02:23:45,750
facilities. Okay. It's just a
review. Yeah.

2301
02:23:46,320 --> 02:23:47,430
He isn't then crap. What

2302
02:23:47,430 --> 02:23:49,230
a push the EO, that's pussy.

2303
02:23:49,500 --> 02:23:52,170
Did you notice that one little
phrase at the Durban uses in

2304
02:23:52,170 --> 02:23:55,350
there, he says we're, we need to
review him. So we can either

2305
02:23:55,410 --> 02:23:57,930
move them or dispose of this.

2306
02:23:59,250 --> 02:24:02,430
I did hear that it's
disposition. And the root word

2307
02:24:02,430 --> 02:24:03,900
is dispose. No, he

2308
02:24:03,900 --> 02:24:07,140
didn't say disposition. He said
dispose. I know. But

2309
02:24:07,140 --> 02:24:11,130
if he's saying it as based upon
disposition, I think he did. I

2310
02:24:11,130 --> 02:24:16,080
think disposition did come up
somewhere. Maybe both of them

2311
02:24:16,350 --> 02:24:21,600
Executive Order review and
disposition of individuals. So I

2312
02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:24,420
can totally see where a
douchebag like this would say

2313
02:24:24,420 --> 02:24:27,750
yeah, that's the same as dispose
of which is what's going to

2314
02:24:27,750 --> 02:24:30,690
happen to all citizens of Gitmo
nation eventually.

2315
02:24:31,710 --> 02:24:35,730
They're gonna just dispose just
just dispose of Yeah, one of the

2316
02:24:35,730 --> 02:24:38,580
things when you watch a lot of
these, these hearings is you

2317
02:24:38,580 --> 02:24:42,450
catch a little this little, just
some little needling that goes

2318
02:24:42,450 --> 02:24:45,480
on, which I always think is the
best part of these things. And I

2319
02:24:45,480 --> 02:24:50,100
caught one. Oh, and this is a
needling that goes that went on

2320
02:24:50,100 --> 02:24:55,650
between Durbin Grassley and I
believe Leahy and this is the

2321
02:24:55,650 --> 02:24:59,580
clip as though WTF Grassley
amendment clip I don't even know

2322
02:24:59,580 --> 02:25:03,090
this happened. But apparently
Grassley passed an amendment to

2323
02:25:03,570 --> 02:25:07,500
make it so that the Congress, it
gets to be in the same boat as

2324
02:25:07,500 --> 02:25:09,150
everyone else with Obamacare,

2325
02:25:09,510 --> 02:25:12,030
and the amount that you have.
And I compliment you on that.

2326
02:25:12,030 --> 02:25:12,780
Senator Durbin.

2327
02:25:12,990 --> 02:25:15,300
Thanks a lot. Mr. Chairman. I
just want to say for the record,

2328
02:25:15,300 --> 02:25:18,480
it was the Grassley amendment
that brought us into this world

2329
02:25:19,110 --> 02:25:22,470
in terms of bringing members of
Congress and their staff into

2330
02:25:22,500 --> 02:25:26,880
the Affordable Care Act, which
we're now under and if it was

2331
02:25:26,880 --> 02:25:30,000
not complete, when it came to
any kickback and such, then we

2332
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:33,120
certainly want to make sure that
it is I would like to

2333
02:25:33,720 --> 02:25:37,860
didn't know that. Why do you
have to tell you about every I

2334
02:25:37,860 --> 02:25:42,150
think every every staff, every
staff member, every staff member

2335
02:25:42,150 --> 02:25:44,970
in the Congress are now paying
considerably more for their

2336
02:25:44,970 --> 02:25:47,310
health care dole than it is to
Grassley amendment.

2337
02:25:49,410 --> 02:25:51,420
As Chairman, if Haha,

2338
02:25:52,530 --> 02:25:56,220
that's hilarious. Now you think
the right wing radio guys would

2339
02:25:56,220 --> 02:26:00,420
pick up on this? I just like
everybody's paying a lot more

2340
02:26:00,420 --> 02:26:04,140
because because of Obamacare, I
just thought it was hilarious.

2341
02:26:04,410 --> 02:26:06,900
And then of course, they give it
the needle to Grassley, who is

2342
02:26:06,900 --> 02:26:10,080
defending himself there instead
of you know, they got a hearing

2343
02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:14,730
going on, but they have to bitch
at each other. The last one I

2344
02:26:14,730 --> 02:26:17,280
have is the facts and figures
for the federal prison system,

2345
02:26:17,280 --> 02:26:19,590
which also has a little stat in
it that I thought was

2346
02:26:19,590 --> 02:26:20,280
interesting.

2347
02:26:22,230 --> 02:26:25,410
We talked about a federal prison
population. This is somebody who

2348
02:26:25,410 --> 02:26:29,610
concerned too many of us here.
It's grown by more than 500% in

2349
02:26:29,610 --> 02:26:36,390
the last 30 years. And that's
money that you have money that

2350
02:26:36,390 --> 02:26:39,600
can't be used to hire more
prosecutors or agents or

2351
02:26:40,110 --> 02:26:44,220
providing assistance to state
and local law enforcement. In

2352
02:26:44,220 --> 02:26:48,240
fact, the Inspector General said
the bureau public Bureau

2353
02:26:48,240 --> 02:26:52,980
president's budget, is that the
top of his list of management

2354
02:26:52,980 --> 02:26:58,560
challenges for the department,
the top of the list, what? What

2355
02:26:58,560 --> 02:27:01,710
is this increasing prison
population doing to your other

2356
02:27:01,710 --> 02:27:02,580
priorities?

2357
02:27:03,270 --> 02:27:05,880
Well, the budget now, the Bureau
of Prisons budget takes up

2358
02:27:05,880 --> 02:27:09,810
roughly a third of the Justice
Department's entire budget and

2359
02:27:09,810 --> 02:27:13,290
it priek Wow, doing a variety of
other things that I know members

2360
02:27:13,290 --> 02:27:15,930
of this committee are interested
in. And

2361
02:27:16,320 --> 02:27:22,470
as it ended, I had no idea that
the federal prison system took a

2362
02:27:22,470 --> 02:27:25,110
third of the Justice
Department's budget. Yeah.

2363
02:27:26,250 --> 02:27:27,300
It's a bonanza.

2364
02:27:28,830 --> 02:27:31,470
Yes, bonanza for these private
companies that are exploiting

2365
02:27:31,470 --> 02:27:37,470
these taxpayers dime. And yeah,
well,

2366
02:27:38,880 --> 02:27:43,320
and, and your point would be,
yeah,

2367
02:27:44,310 --> 02:27:47,700
I said, we take a little break
words have been a very long

2368
02:27:47,730 --> 02:27:50,130
looks like it's gonna be a long
show. Regardless, we were very

2369
02:27:50,130 --> 02:27:52,320
late with our executive and
Associate Executive producers

2370
02:27:52,320 --> 02:27:54,030
who it's kind of a short list
for the rest of I think we

2371
02:27:54,030 --> 02:27:54,690
should do it right now.

2372
02:27:54,840 --> 02:27:58,260
I'm going to show my move by
Jonah to no agenda. Imagine all

2373
02:27:58,260 --> 02:28:00,810
the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.

2374
02:28:08,400 --> 02:28:10,650
Started, we do have some people
to think when to start with

2375
02:28:10,650 --> 02:28:17,220
David do rousse the rows, the
rows in swing, direct spine

2376
02:28:17,220 --> 02:28:23,790
drift via indirect spine direct?
I can see that. Holland sorry

2377
02:28:23,790 --> 02:28:26,460
for about a year without donate
going a year without donating on

2378
02:28:26,460 --> 02:28:28,710
the verge of a job loss. I could
really use some karma.

2379
02:28:29,009 --> 02:28:32,219
Wow, let me just give that to
him right now. Just why not?

2380
02:28:32,609 --> 02:28:35,369
You've got karma. hope, hope
that works.

2381
02:28:36,690 --> 02:28:42,840
Chris Trueheart in Abbotsford
BC, which asks a question Who

2382
02:28:43,080 --> 02:28:44,610
being loved as poor?

2383
02:28:45,960 --> 02:28:47,100
I like to question.

2384
02:28:49,050 --> 02:28:53,760
Yeah, it's an interesting
question. David bevers dusty

2385
02:28:53,760 --> 02:28:57,990
Dave from Collinsville,
Oklahoma. He has it he does have

2386
02:28:57,990 --> 02:29:02,490
a long note, which is really
long note, which will. We've

2387
02:29:02,490 --> 02:29:09,720
read I'll send out a copy. And
then we have another long note

2388
02:29:09,720 --> 02:29:11,730
from my mouse would work

2389
02:29:11,760 --> 02:29:14,610
Damien's wallets from Adelaide.

2390
02:29:16,230 --> 02:29:18,420
In South Australia, if you see
anything in there, we should

2391
02:29:18,420 --> 02:29:19,410
read it. Yeah, he

2392
02:29:19,439 --> 02:29:23,489
Well, it's 111 11 and he says to
the business of making it rain.

2393
02:29:23,519 --> 02:29:26,759
Her name is Gina She's smoking
hot likes to strap on a tool

2394
02:29:26,759 --> 02:29:29,489
belt and would love to strip and
John's club and he sent a

2395
02:29:29,489 --> 02:29:34,139
picture. I didn't get a picture
hold of her in a tool belt with

2396
02:29:34,139 --> 02:29:39,299
a drill. Nice. Yeah. So she
should be on the list for the

2397
02:29:39,299 --> 02:29:39,689
club.

2398
02:29:39,720 --> 02:29:40,710
He's now on the list.

2399
02:29:41,790 --> 02:29:44,970
Yeah, I'll send you the picture
is a good pic is a good picture.

2400
02:29:47,310 --> 02:29:53,670
Anonymous in nowhere Oklahoma.
$100. Another an unknown guy

2401
02:29:53,670 --> 02:29:56,700
which happened. He sent this in
by mail and then I don't know

2402
02:29:57,090 --> 02:30:01,140
where his name went because it's
not on the list. Her Oh, but he

2403
02:30:01,140 --> 02:30:03,240
does a good letter. Thank you
for the great product full time

2404
02:30:03,240 --> 02:30:05,970
news delivering an interesting
and provoking thinking analysis

2405
02:30:05,970 --> 02:30:09,660
and ideas. He called the
International call himself the

2406
02:30:09,660 --> 02:30:13,020
international human resource and
mentioned a huge number as my

2407
02:30:13,020 --> 02:30:17,340
resource ID. Oh, I recall that.
Yeah, somehow when you read on

2408
02:30:17,340 --> 02:30:19,830
the podcast, a big number
distracted you from my karma

2409
02:30:19,830 --> 02:30:22,110
route requests. This was some
time ago, I guess. Yeah, just

2410
02:30:22,110 --> 02:30:26,220
not a big deal. But I could have
used some karma at the time. So

2411
02:30:27,210 --> 02:30:29,850
it really nice job, Carmen, he
sent us a couple 100 bucks, so

2412
02:30:29,850 --> 02:30:30,750
we should send it to him.

2413
02:30:30,900 --> 02:30:34,170
Yes. And I would like to
reiterate, everyone understands

2414
02:30:34,170 --> 02:30:41,700
we cut down these segments by
promising to read executive and

2415
02:30:41,700 --> 02:30:44,250
Associate Executive Producer
notes regardless verbatim,

2416
02:30:44,250 --> 02:30:48,000
whatever, whatever they send us.
And everything else. We read all

2417
02:30:48,000 --> 02:30:51,720
the notes, of course, but we
just don't have the time to read

2418
02:30:51,720 --> 02:30:54,360
everyone's note and we give
general purpose karma at the

2419
02:30:54,360 --> 02:30:56,550
end. But of course, since
today's list is relatively

2420
02:30:56,550 --> 02:31:01,950
short, DO IT jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

2421
02:31:03,750 --> 02:31:04,290
Pharma.

2422
02:31:06,780 --> 02:31:13,260
Matt Stewart nein, nein nein
Nein. Rebecca McGinley in San

2423
02:31:13,260 --> 02:31:18,210
Diego nein, nein nein Nein. She
gets there just to get the nein

2424
02:31:18,210 --> 02:31:19,050
nein nein Nein.

2425
02:31:19,560 --> 02:31:21,300
Oh, yeah, if you want.

2426
02:31:22,710 --> 02:31:28,860
Stacy St. Armand Kingston,
Ontario 8686. Michael Kearns and

2427
02:31:28,860 --> 02:31:35,700
Kansas City Missouri 6969. And
that goes along with Shane Oh

2428
02:31:35,700 --> 02:31:40,260
Heron was Scylla Alaska. Which
is I think pronounced the he's

2429
02:31:40,260 --> 02:31:45,870
in Kenai or something. Anyway,
Damien Taemin in Perth, which is

2430
02:31:45,870 --> 02:31:47,400
a place I've always wanted to
visit.

2431
02:31:49,500 --> 02:31:52,320
I've been it's beautiful. It's
green. Perth is green, sir,

2432
02:31:52,470 --> 02:31:56,040
is what they say. Sir Brian
Barrow and Wootton Bassett in

2433
02:31:56,040 --> 02:31:59,370
Wiltshire. And that ends the
6969 segment. Michael

2434
02:31:59,370 --> 02:32:06,750
Siegenthaler. It from Parts
Unknown 6666. Sergio, no. 5870

2435
02:32:06,750 --> 02:32:08,850
and Nataniel. Well,

2436
02:32:08,880 --> 02:32:13,200
we have a note. We have a note
there was something we missed,

2437
02:32:13,440 --> 02:32:18,570
because we always break for days
and nights. A double insurance

2438
02:32:18,570 --> 02:32:22,080
policy so you do not forget the
F cancer karma from my friend's

2439
02:32:22,080 --> 02:32:25,800
wife. Ah, that's right. He had
that on the last show. And we

2440
02:32:25,800 --> 02:32:28,800
didn't we glossed over that,
which doesn't usually happen

2441
02:32:28,800 --> 02:32:31,920
when we have something from one
of our nights or dame's. Also I

2442
02:32:31,920 --> 02:32:35,340
want to say that in this humble
opinion of this night, I think

2443
02:32:35,340 --> 02:32:38,400
John think John's analysis of
the reasons for wanting to do

2444
02:32:38,400 --> 02:32:40,770
away with the electoral
Electoral College and native

2445
02:32:40,770 --> 02:32:45,330
advertising were outstanding and
terrific material for hitting

2446
02:32:45,330 --> 02:32:50,430
people in the mouth. Oh, and the
Oracles bit at Davos had me

2447
02:32:50,430 --> 02:32:52,020
peeing in my pants with laughter

2448
02:32:53,610 --> 02:32:55,350
was that I don't know.

2449
02:32:55,830 --> 02:33:04,110
Unbelievable stuff sir Joe elder
of Zion and as requested karma

2450
02:33:04,170 --> 02:33:07,680
we always tried to hook our
Knights and Dames up sorry for

2451
02:33:07,680 --> 02:33:07,950
the

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02:33:08,100 --> 02:33:10,710
teeth Gibson Holly Springs,
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Robert love $56 from Orlando,
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York, Pennsylvania. 5555 Eric
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are all 50s John Anderson
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stops up John ship at sea
reporting in from the

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transaction own discovery spirit
drillship Oh, interesting. You

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asked for ship at sea ships at
sea.

2460
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It's interesting. Trans ocean
discover spirit drillship Wow.

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drillship Peter totake is $50
from Parts Unknown Derek

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Kirkwood Layton, Utah James
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2463
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Alan being over here in Oakland.
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Elliot Gardner says Happy
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2469
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please sir I'd like Andrew

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2490
02:35:59,850 --> 02:36:05,010
do the risks that we take often.
personal risk,

2491
02:36:05,370 --> 02:36:06,390
what risks

2492
02:36:08,550 --> 02:36:12,210
you never get it? Well, of
course. Why do I even ask? Why

2493
02:36:12,210 --> 02:36:16,230
do we even ask if you ever get
any threats? I'm sure you don't

2494
02:36:18,090 --> 02:36:20,910
like it? I probably don't know.
I haven't gotten any threats.

2495
02:36:20,910 --> 02:36:22,920
People are threatening you all
the time.

2496
02:36:23,370 --> 02:36:27,090
About what? Yeah, you know,
let's start up some Jew Muslim

2497
02:36:27,090 --> 02:36:29,220
conversation. See how that works
out again. That was

2498
02:36:29,670 --> 02:36:31,350
you have as a topic you enjoy.

2499
02:36:32,250 --> 02:36:38,550
I'm a risk taker. I'm a risk
taker. Turkey for a moment. I've

2500
02:36:38,550 --> 02:36:41,850
been calling around to some
sources to figure out what's

2501
02:36:41,850 --> 02:36:46,200
happening. The Gulin Petula
Gulin This is the imam who lives

2502
02:36:46,200 --> 02:36:50,670
in as they call him. I love that
how the mainstream media calls

2503
02:36:50,670 --> 02:36:55,410
him the moderate imam who lives
in self imposed exile in

2504
02:36:55,410 --> 02:37:00,030
Pennsylvania. All right, hold on
a second. I just need bullshit,

2505
02:37:00,060 --> 02:37:07,110
right? That the CIA helped him
get his paperwork. He lives in a

2506
02:37:07,110 --> 02:37:12,180
compound. And for the first time
in 16 years, he did an interview

2507
02:37:12,930 --> 02:37:13,380
with

2508
02:37:14,430 --> 02:37:16,170
me this is the clip of the day
already.

2509
02:37:16,800 --> 02:37:20,970
Well, I it wasn't worth
clipping. Oh, I hate to say it.

2510
02:37:21,600 --> 02:37:25,290
It really it really just wasn't.
And of course he speaks in

2511
02:37:25,860 --> 02:37:30,810
Arabic. And so I have no idea if
the translation is proper. And

2512
02:37:30,810 --> 02:37:35,550
it was done for the BBC. And I
think the fact that he did the

2513
02:37:35,550 --> 02:37:36,810
interview was more interesting

2514
02:37:36,810 --> 02:37:38,070
lead up to this dud.

2515
02:37:39,630 --> 02:37:44,220
dud, it's not a dud. There's a
there's a lot going on with the

2516
02:37:44,220 --> 02:37:47,940
with Turkey right now mainly,
that the the Turkish central

2517
02:37:47,940 --> 02:37:51,930
bank intervened popped up
interest rates to 12%. Because

2518
02:37:51,930 --> 02:37:57,120
the Turkish lira was tanking
against the dollar. It blew

2519
02:37:57,120 --> 02:38:00,810
everything back up. And as of
yesterday, the lira is now even

2520
02:38:00,810 --> 02:38:04,710
lower than it was before. So it
appears their mission has

2521
02:38:04,710 --> 02:38:10,530
failed. But what I have learned
from sources, the reason for the

2522
02:38:10,530 --> 02:38:16,950
intervention from the his met or
the Gulenist is that Erawan was

2523
02:38:16,950 --> 02:38:22,200
moving too fast with the
Islamification and Gulin wants

2524
02:38:22,200 --> 02:38:27,120
to slow it all down and probably
working with the CIA slash State

2525
02:38:27,120 --> 02:38:31,860
Department slash Treasury
whatever, launched a obviously

2526
02:38:31,890 --> 02:38:34,320
there was an internal attack,
but the financial attack may

2527
02:38:34,320 --> 02:38:39,240
have been a part of it. To bring
everyone down a bit to make him

2528
02:38:39,270 --> 02:38:44,370
perhaps even some of his buddies
may lose in the local elections

2529
02:38:44,370 --> 02:38:48,690
coming up in March. But that's
what the rift appears to be from

2530
02:38:48,690 --> 02:38:52,650
the Gulin side is that Erawan
This has always been the plan

2531
02:38:53,250 --> 02:38:58,200
we've always had the plan was
always to bring to Islam of phi

2532
02:38:58,650 --> 02:39:02,070
Turkey and spread out to Europe
and Gulin things no one was

2533
02:39:02,070 --> 02:39:09,750
going to fast. Pa now and that
comes from

2534
02:39:09,750 --> 02:39:12,690
in that fast to me the this
whole still stems from him

2535
02:39:12,690 --> 02:39:16,950
wanting to level that one park
and put it in a big mall.

2536
02:39:18,150 --> 02:39:20,280
That well that's where it
started. Yeah, yeah. We

2537
02:39:20,280 --> 02:39:23,730
always forget that that one
moment. And then it just kind of

2538
02:39:25,080 --> 02:39:29,190
started to mushroom and then our
State Department I've worked one

2539
02:39:29,190 --> 02:39:33,930
of some buddy, probably us just
I had to rub put the rubble of

2540
02:39:33,930 --> 02:39:34,560
patrol in

2541
02:39:35,550 --> 02:39:38,760
the rubble. But I think I think
that's still the best, the best

2542
02:39:38,760 --> 02:39:40,290
strategy Rob allies at all,

2543
02:39:40,350 --> 02:39:43,530
yeah, verbalise it, and then you
could, you know, sell them some

2544
02:39:43,530 --> 02:39:44,760
construction work,

2545
02:39:45,539 --> 02:39:49,949
or the president's going to
Jordan pretty soon. Of course,

2546
02:39:49,949 --> 02:39:52,169
we have a 10s of 1000s of
troops.

2547
02:39:53,700 --> 02:39:56,100
Jordan is right, right near
Syria, for those of you who

2548
02:39:56,100 --> 02:40:01,080
don't have a map, or don't care
to look at the map. And they'd

2549
02:40:01,080 --> 02:40:04,320
been doing all kinds of practice
drills for Syria. So I wonder

2550
02:40:04,320 --> 02:40:08,580
what if that is going to have
some kind of effect on the Syria

2551
02:40:08,580 --> 02:40:12,660
situation? As the President
Obama will meet with King

2552
02:40:12,660 --> 02:40:18,000
Abdullah the second? I'm not
quite sure what that means.

2553
02:40:18,570 --> 02:40:19,650
It's a good meal.

2554
02:40:20,160 --> 02:40:23,160
Yeah. Well, we're just not
qualified to understand.

2555
02:40:24,930 --> 02:40:27,600
Good meals. Probably some decent
wine. Maybe I do

2556
02:40:27,600 --> 02:40:32,940
have a question for you. Sunday
is the Superbowl. Yeah, as as we

2557
02:40:32,940 --> 02:40:37,590
think. Well, there you go. As we
know, I never watched sports

2558
02:40:37,590 --> 02:40:40,680
although I do have Winter
Olympic fever

2559
02:40:43,500 --> 02:40:46,050
i Okay. Oh, that's right. We
already talked about this. I

2560
02:40:46,050 --> 02:40:48,330
won't go into it again. You like
skating?

2561
02:40:48,360 --> 02:40:51,060
Yeah, like ice skating and even
curling there's some hot women

2562
02:40:51,060 --> 02:40:51,960
in curling, by the way.

2563
02:40:52,020 --> 02:40:54,540
Yeah, I know those two Canadian
sisters from pretty good.

2564
02:40:56,580 --> 02:41:00,150
So we have the Super Bowl
traditionally, we are able to

2565
02:41:00,150 --> 02:41:04,230
call these all these games are
rigged. The fix is in is the

2566
02:41:04,230 --> 02:41:06,420
heading in the show notes. For
those of you who wonder about

2567
02:41:06,420 --> 02:41:13,650
it, we've we've called many many
events properly even World Cup

2568
02:41:13,650 --> 02:41:18,390
soccer. And nailed it. And now
we Yes, we are after year after

2569
02:41:18,390 --> 02:41:23,370
year. Now we have an interesting
combination of things. We have

2570
02:41:23,670 --> 02:41:27,000
watch Washington, Seattle,
Washington and we have Colorado

2571
02:41:27,000 --> 02:41:33,180
Denver, Colorado. Both we states
where marijuana has recently

2572
02:41:33,180 --> 02:41:36,720
been legalised right. That's not
a factor that I don't I think

2573
02:41:36,720 --> 02:41:39,300
that cancels each other out
because of course we believe

2574
02:41:39,300 --> 02:41:43,140
that the The team that wins is
the one that needs the most

2575
02:41:43,140 --> 02:41:50,850
based upon economics or some
kind of vibe they need to prop

2576
02:41:50,850 --> 02:41:55,410
them up. Yeah, yeah. Now there's
a couple of things that are

2577
02:41:55,410 --> 02:41:58,920
interesting here of course
Colorado had the flooding in

2578
02:41:58,920 --> 02:42:02,130
Colorado had has a shoot all the
shootings are unconscious

2579
02:42:02,130 --> 02:42:02,790
shootings,

2580
02:42:02,820 --> 02:42:05,820
mass shootings, flooding. Now
this game

2581
02:42:05,820 --> 02:42:11,370
is going to be played in New
Jersey. Yeah, I was just

2582
02:42:11,370 --> 02:42:15,840
thinking you know, we have six
weeks and everything I know you

2583
02:42:15,840 --> 02:42:18,960
think that nothing should happen
with a sporting event? But if if

2584
02:42:18,960 --> 02:42:21,870
we could do anything to screw up
Chris Christie even better? I

2585
02:42:21,870 --> 02:42:23,820
mean, this would be the moment
it figure

2586
02:42:23,820 --> 02:42:25,740
he's already on the ropes. I
don't think there's anything

2587
02:42:26,100 --> 02:42:28,740
left in Yeah, he's done for a
while.

2588
02:42:28,769 --> 02:42:32,129
So I'm gonna make a comeback. So
I'm not sure exactly why but I

2589
02:42:32,129 --> 02:42:35,039
have a feeling Seattle's going
to win. And I don't I can't

2590
02:42:35,039 --> 02:42:36,629
really explain why

2591
02:42:36,660 --> 02:42:39,750
doesn't fit into any of I know,
this fits into none of our

2592
02:42:39,750 --> 02:42:40,230
models. I

2593
02:42:40,230 --> 02:42:43,380
know. This is my problem. This
is why I feel weighed thinking

2594
02:42:43,380 --> 02:42:45,870
they're gonna win. I don't know.

2595
02:42:48,360 --> 02:42:50,940
There must be some reason for
them to win.

2596
02:42:52,140 --> 02:42:52,860
Why?

2597
02:42:53,010 --> 02:42:57,090
What's wrong with Denver? No,
not. John. I'm only saying I

2598
02:42:57,090 --> 02:42:58,590
have a weird feeling.

2599
02:42:58,800 --> 02:43:01,890
Okay, well, you so you're going
with an instinct, you believe

2600
02:43:01,890 --> 02:43:04,500
they're gonna win from some for
some instinctual reason?

2601
02:43:04,560 --> 02:43:07,950
Well, I can, the only thing I
can I can think of is Colorado's

2602
02:43:07,950 --> 02:43:11,670
had enough exposure, and we need
to focus on Seattle for some

2603
02:43:11,670 --> 02:43:15,660
reason. I just I can't put my
finger on why,

2604
02:43:15,960 --> 02:43:18,090
yeah, I would go with a

2605
02:43:18,090 --> 02:43:20,700
regular model, we just stick
with the models. That way we

2606
02:43:20,700 --> 02:43:21,690
should, I would stick

2607
02:43:21,690 --> 02:43:24,090
with a model. That means that
Denver for a number of reasons.

2608
02:43:24,090 --> 02:43:26,700
And then there's a lot of
football reasons to back it up.

2609
02:43:26,700 --> 02:43:30,750
There's a sympathy vote for for
EA for Peyton Manning, he should

2610
02:43:30,750 --> 02:43:33,360
wait because he came back from a
broken neck and he's playing

2611
02:43:33,360 --> 02:43:37,110
football again. And they're in a
lot of operations. And he's back

2612
02:43:37,110 --> 02:43:40,740
on track. They also have they
there's excuses for them too,

2613
02:43:40,740 --> 02:43:44,700
when, for example, they train
and operate out of Denver, which

2614
02:43:44,700 --> 02:43:47,070
is a mile high, which means
you're more oxygenated down in

2615
02:43:47,070 --> 02:43:51,390
New York would be coming in from
Seattle. And this just seems to

2616
02:43:51,390 --> 02:43:57,450
be a lot more karmic stuff going
on for the Broncos as opposed to

2617
02:43:57,450 --> 02:44:02,100
the Seattle team, which has a
blowhard guy, this guy's blew up

2618
02:44:02,100 --> 02:44:07,320
on the camera, and it's just I'm
sticking with the formula. I'm

2619
02:44:07,320 --> 02:44:10,200
just going with the well, but
then for that reason,

2620
02:44:10,350 --> 02:44:16,950
could there be any other way to
put Seattle into the formula? Is

2621
02:44:17,220 --> 02:44:19,410
Alan is the owner of the team?

2622
02:44:19,500 --> 02:44:23,940
Is there a Gates Foundation
connection may be something that

2623
02:44:23,940 --> 02:44:28,050
has to happen in Seattle. Is
there a reason that Seattle

2624
02:44:28,050 --> 02:44:33,780
should be focused on AI I
couldn't come up with it. But I

2625
02:44:33,780 --> 02:44:34,140
reserved

2626
02:44:34,140 --> 02:44:36,630
anything Seattle has no chance
to win this game if we're going

2627
02:44:36,630 --> 02:44:37,890
to base it on our model.

2628
02:44:38,669 --> 02:44:41,429
I feel I'm missing something
with Seattle. I really feel

2629
02:44:41,460 --> 02:44:43,920
oh, you got like a few minutes
to figure it out. Because we're

2630
02:44:43,920 --> 02:44:47,100
not well, you could do it on the
on the Sunday morning show

2631
02:44:47,100 --> 02:44:50,430
because this game starts late
okay. No, I I got now until

2632
02:44:50,430 --> 02:44:53,280
Sunday morning to come up with
the rationale that would give

2633
02:44:53,280 --> 02:44:55,830
you Seattle, Seattle victory in
a big game like

2634
02:44:55,859 --> 02:44:58,979
well, you know what anything
could happen between now and

2635
02:44:58,979 --> 02:45:04,049
Sunday. Yeah, anything could
happen so maybe that's what I'm

2636
02:45:04,049 --> 02:45:07,019
feeling maybe something still
has to happen in Seattle. That

2637
02:45:07,019 --> 02:45:08,519
makes us feel sorry for them

2638
02:45:10,920 --> 02:45:17,430
it's raining there. It's always
raining there Yeah, I don't see

2639
02:45:17,430 --> 02:45:20,280
it. I just don't see it and I
just stick with their model

2640
02:45:20,280 --> 02:45:22,350
which always is never failed.

2641
02:45:23,370 --> 02:45:26,220
Yeah, no, I'm sticking with the
model. I'm just trying to I

2642
02:45:26,220 --> 02:45:29,430
don't think I feel like we're
missing something with Seattle.

2643
02:45:29,910 --> 02:45:33,510
I just don't I can't put my I
can't put my Google in

2644
02:45:33,540 --> 02:45:35,790
Seattle and the word disaster

2645
02:45:37,680 --> 02:45:43,530
let's do a different Seattle sad
you do disaster I'll do sad let

2646
02:45:43,530 --> 02:45:48,120
me see huh no, no no, I don't
think I have anything you I

2647
02:45:48,120 --> 02:45:49,080
think on disaster

2648
02:45:50,340 --> 02:45:54,360
coming up now. Office of a no
prepare it Nope. It looks as

2649
02:45:54,360 --> 02:46:00,090
though there's no the only thing
that could happen is a volcano

2650
02:46:00,090 --> 02:46:01,800
or an earthquake or a tsunami.

2651
02:46:02,040 --> 02:46:05,610
Let's do Seattle bad news. Let
me see what bad news brings us

2652
02:46:05,970 --> 02:46:08,790
there's not a lot of bad news
coming out it just isn't it's

2653
02:46:08,790 --> 02:46:13,590
just bad news we'll be them
losing the game and bad news

2654
02:46:13,590 --> 02:46:13,980
that read

2655
02:46:14,040 --> 02:46:17,460
that fits right in the model
doesn't it? I don't know I'm

2656
02:46:17,490 --> 02:46:20,940
okay I want to stick with the
model I just I don't think we've

2657
02:46:20,940 --> 02:46:25,800
done enough of the due diligence
for some reason I probably wrong

2658
02:46:28,050 --> 02:46:33,090
bad news didn't sell the
Seahawks attitudes. Bass from

2659
02:46:33,090 --> 02:46:35,550
the bad news is a band I guess
played there something

2660
02:46:36,930 --> 02:46:43,320
gas price gas prices is seem to
have been exploding as in

2661
02:46:43,350 --> 02:46:45,180
natural gas as in went up

2662
02:46:45,180 --> 02:46:47,340
a nickel or something like that.
I thought it went up higher than

2663
02:46:47,340 --> 02:46:52,650
that went up 5% Maybe my
thinking is five some? No. When

2664
02:46:52,650 --> 02:46:55,140
I finally get there, you know
finally that it's been depressed

2665
02:46:55,140 --> 02:46:57,120
so long. It's about time it went
up and the

2666
02:46:57,120 --> 02:47:01,080
president of course, talked
about it as well. Um, then we

2667
02:47:01,080 --> 02:47:08,070
have in the Bitcoin department
very funny. The easy the the

2668
02:47:08,070 --> 02:47:14,220
vice chairman of the Bitcoin
Foundation, Charlie Shrem, CEO

2669
02:47:14,220 --> 02:47:22,350
of the bit instant arrested for
money laundering. Oh, yeah. You

2670
02:47:22,350 --> 02:47:23,040
didn't hear this.

2671
02:47:23,640 --> 02:47:24,660
I didn't see that come in.

2672
02:47:26,070 --> 02:47:29,790
It's kind of interesting,
because the way the the Reddit

2673
02:47:29,790 --> 02:47:33,210
is playing it, the Reddit
communities like this is this is

2674
02:47:33,210 --> 02:47:36,570
just to scare people away. It's
bullcrap. And so now if you read

2675
02:47:36,570 --> 02:47:40,260
the indictment, the guy
actually, you know, was helping

2676
02:47:40,260 --> 02:47:44,610
one of his customers literally
launder money.

2677
02:47:45,090 --> 02:47:49,080
Hey, if HSBC can do it, I can do
it now. Well, there's that.

2678
02:47:49,620 --> 02:47:53,010
Well, you also have to make sure
to note that some people are

2679
02:47:53,010 --> 02:47:57,450
given the go ahead to do it. And
you're not correct. That's

2680
02:47:57,450 --> 02:47:59,670
totally correct. I got some
interesting news. I thought it

2681
02:47:59,670 --> 02:48:04,620
was kind of at least stunned me.
Was the wine sales in China have

2682
02:48:04,620 --> 02:48:06,150
now surpassed France?

2683
02:48:06,690 --> 02:48:09,360
Oh, my goodness. No. And
finally, do you like your wine?

2684
02:48:09,360 --> 02:48:12,150
If so this is one for you. And
the Chinese have stolen rather

2685
02:48:12,150 --> 02:48:15,420
an important title, haven't
they? From the French? Yes, this

2686
02:48:15,450 --> 02:48:18,060
according to a survey from the
wine and spirits Association.

2687
02:48:18,090 --> 02:48:21,510
Vinexpo. They say that China has
overtaken France as the world's

2688
02:48:21,630 --> 02:48:25,530
number one consumer of red wine.
Their research found that

2689
02:48:25,530 --> 02:48:29,640
Chinese drank almost 1.9 billion
bottles of red wine last year,

2690
02:48:29,640 --> 02:48:34,560
that's up over 130% in the past
five years. It does though, put

2691
02:48:34,560 --> 02:48:37,800
France in second place, Italy in
third. As an expert says it's

2692
02:48:37,800 --> 02:48:40,020
down to both the increased
wealth on the part of the

2693
02:48:40,020 --> 02:48:43,050
Chinese, but also a preference
for the colour red because in

2694
02:48:43,050 --> 02:48:45,540
Chinese culture, it's the colour
of good luck and good fortune,

2695
02:48:45,690 --> 02:48:47,880
which explains why red wine
sounds better than white.

2696
02:48:50,370 --> 02:48:56,400
really explain anything? Let me
know who does not go with with

2697
02:48:56,430 --> 02:48:59,490
with European style wines. I
don't know how this is this is

2698
02:48:59,490 --> 02:49:00,390
even possible.

2699
02:49:02,670 --> 02:49:03,600
You're the expert.

2700
02:49:04,290 --> 02:49:05,100
Just saying.

2701
02:49:06,150 --> 02:49:08,610
Just saying is just not an
acceptable thing to say.

2702
02:49:08,820 --> 02:49:10,560
I'm not gonna say that anymore.
Okay.

2703
02:49:10,619 --> 02:49:11,909
Unless you say Moreover, I

2704
02:49:11,910 --> 02:49:17,700
will say let me say this about
that. Okay. I believe that the

2705
02:49:17,700 --> 02:49:20,400
Chinese just don't even drink
this wine. They just buy it.

2706
02:49:21,660 --> 02:49:24,750
They've been on a buying binge.
But I've been to China. I've

2707
02:49:24,750 --> 02:49:29,370
never had wine with Chinese ever
where they go to Chinatown. And

2708
02:49:29,370 --> 02:49:31,080
people drink beer with their
food.

2709
02:49:33,780 --> 02:49:35,220
Are they just collecting it?
Maybe?

2710
02:49:35,640 --> 02:49:36,630
I don't know what they're doing.

2711
02:49:37,380 --> 02:49:40,230
From Criminal Minds a show I've
never watched but many of our

2712
02:49:40,230 --> 02:49:44,790
producers do. This is a nice
little ditty about the flu shot.

2713
02:49:44,820 --> 02:49:47,670
Not as amazing as you pretty
amazing. I started with an SQL

2714
02:49:47,670 --> 02:49:49,890
injection that sort of be
dealing with download a patch to

2715
02:49:49,890 --> 02:49:52,920
fight it off, but it's the patch
that contains a Trojan horse

2716
02:49:53,040 --> 02:49:55,920
like taking the flu shot filled
with cancer. Exactly, exactly.

2717
02:49:56,460 --> 02:49:58,260
Taking a flu shot filled with
cancer

2718
02:49:59,370 --> 02:50:02,580
and we have that flu shot from
Baxter some time back or a flu

2719
02:50:02,580 --> 02:50:03,690
shot filled with birds.

2720
02:50:05,640 --> 02:50:08,880
Yeah, they were mixing it up. I
just love how they just slip

2721
02:50:08,880 --> 02:50:16,560
that in there. What audience are
you going after? Oh, no. I like

2722
02:50:16,560 --> 02:50:17,340
it. I like it.

2723
02:50:18,720 --> 02:50:22,560
Oh crap, I got some bullcrap to
follow that with. This is

2724
02:50:22,560 --> 02:50:26,430
Schumer on the shield law and
wise, you know, it's not quite

2725
02:50:26,430 --> 02:50:29,790
getting to where they want it to
go. This is the meat shield law

2726
02:50:29,790 --> 02:50:30,900
withhold or scripted

2727
02:50:30,929 --> 02:50:34,529
the media shield law, which is
it's called the free flow of

2728
02:50:34,529 --> 02:50:37,769
information act to be exactly
the department's revised

2729
02:50:37,769 --> 02:50:40,349
guidelines governing the
obtaining of evidence from

2730
02:50:40,349 --> 02:50:43,109
members of the news media are a
step in the right direction.

2731
02:50:43,139 --> 02:50:46,679
However, they haven't been
finalised and it's more than six

2732
02:50:46,679 --> 02:50:50,309
months after the department sent
its report to the President.

2733
02:50:50,549 --> 02:50:54,179
When will the revised guidelines
be finalised in the Code of

2734
02:50:54,179 --> 02:50:55,619
Federal Regulations?

2735
02:50:55,710 --> 02:50:57,330
When will they go into effect?

2736
02:50:57,750 --> 02:51:00,600
I would expect that we would
have them available for comment

2737
02:51:00,600 --> 02:51:03,510
within the next couple of weeks.
I had actually hoped that we

2738
02:51:03,510 --> 02:51:06,570
would have them done by this
hearing. There was a little

2739
02:51:06,570 --> 02:51:09,510
glitch towards the end, but I
think we'll get through that.

2740
02:51:09,510 --> 02:51:12,330
And then we will have them
available for public work.

2741
02:51:12,359 --> 02:51:14,729
So the website wasn't working
with me.

2742
02:51:15,930 --> 02:51:18,750
Within weeks, I will say that,
in spite of the fact that they

2743
02:51:18,750 --> 02:51:23,580
are not yet issued, we are
working. Wow, Mr performative

2744
02:51:23,580 --> 02:51:27,690
here under them as if they were
in place. And we are also

2745
02:51:27,720 --> 02:51:33,450
a home, I gotta back this up.
How to lie in, in Congress at

2746
02:51:33,450 --> 02:51:34,800
101 say that,

2747
02:51:35,040 --> 02:51:37,560
in spite of the fact that they
are not yet issued. We are

2748
02:51:37,740 --> 02:51:42,720
working under them as if they
were in place. And we are Oh,

2749
02:51:42,720 --> 02:51:44,970
hold on a second. He's working
as if they were already in

2750
02:51:44,970 --> 02:51:47,730
place. That's interesting. Also
looking

2751
02:51:47,730 --> 02:51:52,800
to two people the board that
we're putting together as

2752
02:51:52,800 --> 02:51:57,150
a board, pull the board. Write
that down. I've got to people

2753
02:51:57,150 --> 02:52:01,590
the board. Oh, which board? Is
this? The media shield board of

2754
02:52:01,590 --> 02:52:04,860
the review process? Mr. Fallon
has been working on that. Oh,

2755
02:52:04,860 --> 02:52:05,190
Jimmy

2756
02:52:05,190 --> 02:52:08,340
Fallon is going to be on the
people board. Nice. Well, then

2757
02:52:08,340 --> 02:52:12,630
it's in good hands. Right. Who's
Mr. Fallon? Who's Mr. Fallon?

2758
02:52:12,930 --> 02:52:17,250
Some guy this works for? I don't
know.

2759
02:52:17,610 --> 02:52:21,150
Let's see media shield board.

2760
02:52:21,210 --> 02:52:23,640
He's like to get to be he's the
guy picking the names for the

2761
02:52:23,640 --> 02:52:26,430
bill. One of the boards. There's
two boards. And he talked about

2762
02:52:26,430 --> 02:52:28,710
I didn't realise there were two
of them. I didn't know this.

2763
02:52:28,710 --> 02:52:31,650
Either. One of two is a bunch of
local stooges and the other one

2764
02:52:31,650 --> 02:52:33,360
supposed to be taken from
industry.

2765
02:52:33,840 --> 02:52:36,870
Oh, that's right. No, we knew we
know this. We know this. Okay.

2766
02:52:36,900 --> 02:52:39,570
So that means it's actually
happening. This is really going

2767
02:52:39,570 --> 02:52:44,880
to happen. Congress shall make a
law impeding the the infringing

2768
02:52:44,910 --> 02:52:48,390
on the freedom of the press.
Yeah. Actually going to make a

2769
02:52:48,390 --> 02:52:49,410
law. This is great.

2770
02:52:49,590 --> 02:52:51,660
Yeah, it's against the
constitution, but they're gonna

2771
02:52:51,660 --> 02:52:53,550
do it anyway. Yeah. Well, that's
good, because

2772
02:52:53,730 --> 02:52:56,610
we have a couple more weeks left
than before they people the

2773
02:52:56,610 --> 02:53:01,230
board. Once the board has
people, John, it's all over.

2774
02:53:02,940 --> 02:53:06,960
Well, it's been all over for a
while. It's just now it's more

2775
02:53:06,960 --> 02:53:07,500
official.

2776
02:53:07,530 --> 02:53:11,610
Yeah. Well, luckily, I can work
for you. When you have your

2777
02:53:11,610 --> 02:53:12,360
licence.

2778
02:53:12,540 --> 02:53:15,360
Yeah, it's a process. I'll get
my licence. It's going to take a

2779
02:53:15,360 --> 02:53:18,810
while. Probably take some
classes. Probably had to take

2780
02:53:18,810 --> 02:53:21,720
some seminars. I probably had to
be checked in every I've had to

2781
02:53:21,720 --> 02:53:27,690
Doc, I have to be tested for
drugs. Yes. And psychological

2782
02:53:27,690 --> 02:53:32,580
evaluation. Yeah. And I had to
pass some sort of a test that

2783
02:53:32,580 --> 02:53:35,250
shows have you loyal to the
government? Yeah, I licence.

2784
02:53:35,250 --> 02:53:36,060
I'll be good. You're

2785
02:53:36,119 --> 02:53:40,559
flying colours. I predict flying
colours. No problem. All right,

2786
02:53:40,559 --> 02:53:43,529
everybody. Sorry. We didn't get
to our Justin Bieber news for

2787
02:53:43,529 --> 02:53:47,189
that. Just turn on CNN, Fox,
ABC, NBC, MSNBC, whatever you

2788
02:53:47,189 --> 02:53:50,279
want. They'll have tonnes of
that we hour. We'll be back on

2789
02:53:50,279 --> 02:53:54,599
Sunday to bring you more media
analysis and deconstruction.

2790
02:53:55,259 --> 02:53:57,869
Here in FEMA Region six in the
morning everybody. My name is

2791
02:53:57,869 --> 02:53:58,559
Adam curry.

2792
02:53:59,910 --> 02:54:03,060
And because I have a long pause
there, but and from Northern

2793
02:54:03,060 --> 02:54:06,000
Silicon Valley, where I am
considering getting a caviar

2794
02:54:06,000 --> 02:54:09,900
sandwich for 895. I'm John C.
Dvorak. We'll be back on Sunday

2795
02:54:09,900 --> 02:54:19,050
right here on no agenda. You
will obey you will obey you will

2796
02:54:19,050 --> 02:54:28,590
obey adios MoPhO devora.org/n A