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punchy. All right. Give me
another Karina the queue. It.

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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak is
Thursday, February 6 2014. Time

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for your Gitmo nation media
assassination episode 589. This

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is no agenda separating Ace of

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Spades from Ace of hearts here
in FEMA Region six in Traverse

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site tight out in Austin, Texas
in the morning, everybody. I'm

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Adam curry, and from Northern

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Silicon Valley where I count 11
episodes to go until show 600

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I'm John C. Dvorak. Craig Levin
Buzzkill.

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Wow, I've almost forgotten about
show 600

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And I'm still in my menu reading
voice apparently. Okay, now try

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to snap out of it.

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Yeah, please do because we have
another episode of the Best

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podcast in the universe to
produce here for everybody.

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Exactly. You know, we were we
have a because Mickey has an art

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show coming up. In a couple of
weeks here in Austin. We know

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there's a little social stuff we
have to kind of do you. You go

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to someone else to show and you
know, you you basically we're

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trolling for buyers. Yeah.
schmoozing, trolling for buyers,

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is what it's called, you know,
let's go to this other art show.

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See if we meet anybody
interesting. Can I invite them

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to the pre pre opening? Of
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thing is, is Oh, and what do you
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So this is a running gag. Yeah.
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I think I have a new answer,
which is just so much easier.

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used to say legislative analyst
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with government legislation now
analysts but even but then I

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still have to talk to people and
explain everything. You know, so

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I figured why don't I just say,
I'm half of a comedy podcast

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duo. I think that's true. Yes,
it is. It's completely true.

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This is a comedy Podcast. I'm
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it. I think people go, Oh,
because everyone's heard of Marc

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Maron, or, you know, it's one of
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to know, Marc Maron,

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is what he said Marc Maron,

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but they said Martin, no, Marc,

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Marc Maron, or, you know,
whoever, Louie CK anyone who has

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Rola. Yeah, Adam Carolla. In
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say I'm Adam Carolla. That's,

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you should just say I'm Adam.

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Adam Carolla, what's your
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Right.

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Exactly. Well, slave strong,
everybody. This is episode 589

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of the no agenda show. I just
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someone sent it to me, I thought
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strong. San Francisco strong
going on around here and this

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other this strong thing is on my
Gay Day, I never liked it when

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Bruce Springsteen was doing it.
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well, of course, we had Jersey
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Strong with the bombing. I think
slave strong is just good for

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us. Slave slave strong
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Possible title? Yeah,

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somehow I think it might be
misinterpreted by the SEO.

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Straw. Yeah, actually, it
probably wouldn't work.

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But I but I do love these
Thursday shows for a really

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specific reason. Monday is when
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And we have a lot of time to
research stuff. And it's just,

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there's just a lot of time to
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think is it whatever I think I'm
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it that way you John. And I
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about what we're coming to the
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probably one of the hardest
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going to talk about just to make
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me that the curry Devorah
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guess we joke about from time to
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real. And here's the example.
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interested in all this heroin
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watching the mainstream media,
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to deconstruct it, I'm noticing
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questions that aren't being
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Yeah, just, it's just a simple
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yeah. Or where does it come
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assumed but when you so I'm
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you know, got my three screens.
Whoo. But we really have in this

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show has an enormous breach of
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it is mind boggling. And that
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Devorah Consulting Group, you
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Do you know what I mean? You
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remedy.

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It sure did. And it was it was
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course it's a derivative of was
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I in fact, IG probe and you
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Jew gas and And Bear. They did
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with the invention of the
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great documentary it's about an
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documentary which I have in the
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Wait, hold on second. Now I
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because I normally just let this
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you get the kind of hate mail
you get occasionally the Jew

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gas.

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And it's easy. Did you
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about? I know

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you man Krylon whatever cycle
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line is a thing from DuPont.
Same thing.

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Anyway, I don't care if you send
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nobody cares. So so I'm getting
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fentanyl. There's some there's
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that we're going to talk about
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doctors from addicts from, from
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not know this, but there is an
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products at this moment in the
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Oh, just cook call Syria.

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Well, so this this has been
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which is understanding the
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warfare use of fentanyl, which,
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I think we talked about in the
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version of its three dash metal
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And of course, it killed a lot
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stuff does, essentially it just
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sleep and then you stop
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how to breathe. But it's very
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surge of fentanyl and of course
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surge of fentanyl being cut into
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actual need and necessity for
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lollipop or even the injectable
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it their prescriptions filled
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with who you're taking cancer
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eaten with pain, massive pain.
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kind of go back to to the heroin
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people really know about the
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Scotsman I believe started by
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China and, and everyone in China
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on opium and it was one of the
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between the the Empire and the
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If we were traded, it was being
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lot of was there must have been
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point the I guess the the ruler
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all is not you go watch the
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exactly what happened. But he
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stop this crap. These guys are
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people were strung out on opium
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done. And then they said, Well,
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they tried to and they said,
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going to import your opium
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with the entire Royal Navy
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yeah, oh, no. Oh, no. The hell.
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in reparations. And, and the
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first Opium War, all this the
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slowly get into the, into the
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when the derivative of opium
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then with a hypodermic needle,
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really dimethyl morphine, so
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molecules added to the morphine,
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they thought heroin would be a
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then now we're talking
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these beautiful little silver
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monogrammed and little cute
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couldn't drink they could smoke
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they'd be at a dinner party or
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jabbed themselves in the leg
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heroin. And it was all the rage.

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favour and check out Open up
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I'm getting a lot of received
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is an hour and I'm missing out
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this that's not It's not
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this is not okay. Let me see if
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kind of a rage and we're
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floating around. I have one

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want me to just call you back
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no, it's okay. It stopped right
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going crazy for a while. Keep an
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much summarises what's going on
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centres designed to help those
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saw a number of 100 people in
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years ago, they now see 700 it's
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public health advocates on Long
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Jeffery Reynolds with the Long
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and drug dependence says in his
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has never seen drug addiction
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they've continued to climb. At
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lose about one person per day to
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actor, according to national CDC
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celebrities help raise the
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galvanise our attention. And
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keeps Long Island's families who
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in the drug market, and
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the risks associated with the
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this clip up. I want I want to
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to say that this report I could
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Francisco. I couldn't pull it
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everyone's doing the same thing.
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fentanyl. There's a couple of
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this has been fentanyl is being
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as long as it's also a it's
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fentanyl, which apparently, if
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p and n are something which is a
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that you can essentially make
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It's through the Siegfried
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kind of funny. They call it the
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yeah, where's Roy? Yeah,
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expected. I have I but I do have
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here. First of all, the fentanyl
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in 2006. And for some reason,
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an idea, but no one was talking
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any new story referring to
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as many heroin fentanyl combo
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have right now. And at the time,
what I can find is very

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difficult to search these
things. Once you have an

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incident like an actor that
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It varies every Google, Google
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So yeah, I mean, you can do date
ranges, and I have my own search

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engine. So doesn't work. It's
very hard, very hard. But so

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eventually, you come up with
some answers. And apparently at

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the time, the fentanyl was being
produced in a lab in Mexico, and

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was being smuggled in and then
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looking at this and I've been
I'm putting all these things

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together, this kind of gets back
to what I was talking about the

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the no agenda, the creative work
Consulting Group, where we have

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all these people and all this
information coming in, I was at

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countless in real time, and able
to I'm able to assemble all the

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different pieces that kind of
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first thing and I had to look
this up. If you look at TV

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advertising dollars by the
pharmaceutical industry, there's

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a significant reduction,
particularly in cable news of

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pharmaceutical advertising, a
lot of the money has shifted to

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the web ad and it's shifted in
the, you know, in all these

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websites that give you of
course, you know, you have the

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typical WebMD and you've got the
Dr. Oz stuff, but a lot of the

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so called education and a lot of
its going into online video,

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just a lot of that money is
shifting, and of course they

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still buy their big branding
opportunities. But when is the

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last time we even played an ad
on this show? Because we'd like

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to live out himself all

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the time. I had one lined up for
a couple shows ago we never

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played it but but it's it's not
common. I do see Ambien. Still

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advertising but the amount of on
although I have to say this, you

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don't one thing you don't do and
I is watch the network news.

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I've I've specifically in the
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Well, all I know is from my ex,
I haven't Well, of course I have

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watched it for weeks. But last
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few weeks ago, almost all the
ads were for people about to

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drop dead if something or other

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right, but there's lots of and
what I did is I went to

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Advertising Age and I looked up
the numbers of the ad buys I

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mean that that is the the
closest I can get to some to

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really seeing where the money is
going. And one thing's for sure,

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very minimal money is going to
cable news. And this is

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significant because who was
propagating this the most is all

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the cable news channels they
it's been until the toothpaste

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bomb threats oh my god, please.
Everything was all about heroin,

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fentanyl, heroin, fentanyl,
heroin, fentanyl. And I saw a

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fantastic piece on PBS. And, and
this is this is one of those

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rare opportunities where you you
hear something, but you don't

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hear it until you're only
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watching the video. We have this
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if you if you're not looking at
the picture, and you just listen

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to the words and the flow and
the cadence, you actually hear

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what the person is really
saying. And on this particular

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programme, they're they're two
people. I've cut it cut this

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down to a couple of quick clips.
One is Sam Quinonez. And he is a

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reporter for the Los Angeles
Times. I don't think he has

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necessarily any agenda with the
things that he's saying. But the

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things that he's saying are
very, from my research, very

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true. But at this so he's in Los
Angeles in the studio in New

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York, they had our drugs are
Gil, Gil Kerlikowske. And when

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you listen to this guy speak, it
is like he is actually well, you

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tell me that this guy is not
actually pitching the use of

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heroin. It's and it blew me away
when I just listened to it.

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While I was editing it down.

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There is no question we are
seeing a resurgence of heroin

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and seeing it where and in what
kind of population? Well, it's

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very different and two issues
come up. One is, of course, if

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prescription drugs are more
tightly regulated, or less

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accessible, or more expensive,
people can turn to heroin,

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because they're already
addicted, they suffer the

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disease of addiction to these
opioids, heroin is less

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expensive. But there's a second
part and that is that we see a

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group of young people who are
very naive and believe that

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heroin and used in certain ways
they won't become addicted. It's

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edgy. And what of course happens
is it's incredibly dangerous.

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I did not hear him for one
second say don't do heroin. I

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hear him giving some facts and
stating them. So matter of

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factly it almost sounds like
hey, you're addicted to

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prescription medicine. Well, you
can always get heroin, it's

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readily the budgets cheaper. And
the kids you know, this is edgy.

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And i Wow, the guy is almost
pitching it. He's not almost

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paid pitching, and he's pitching
it. Now let's go to just make

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sure I hear his Quinonez and
listen to what he has to say cuz

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I think he's, he's, he's really
giving us some good facts here

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that help us understand what is
happening. And eventually I'm

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going to get to my what I theory
of what I think is happening,

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which this fits into,

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all over the country. And I
would say largely, this is a

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white problem. I don't find
opioid addiction too much in

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black or Latino populations.
This is very different from the

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way heroin spread 40 years ago,

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this is this is pretty critical
stuff. This is, of course, just

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playing

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seven days where a lot of black
and Latino communities were

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really badly hit. Heroin today.
And prescription pill addiction

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today is almost entirely white,
a white phenomenon and it's in

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rural America. It's in a largely
suburban America, places that

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have done fairly well, middle
class, upper middle class areas,

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and it's in towns that that
really never had a problem with

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Heron before this. Charlotte,
Salt Lake Columbus, Cincinnati,

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Albuquerque, places like that,
where you just didn't really see

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it so much. Now it's become a
very, very big problem. And as

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Gil Kerlikowske said, it's
mostly related to the use of the

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gateway drug and all this is are
these prescription pills Well,

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I love what this guy is saying
he's he's really explaining the

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problem and he's gonna get into
the numbers of where that where

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this is coming from,
particularly when you know that

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these drugs are pretty much
exactly the same, but

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explain that Add a little bit
more Sam, you start

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that many of these prescription
painkillers are virtually

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identical molecularly to heroin
oxy. codeine is very, very

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similar, almost identical to
heroin. The problem is that

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there's a

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notice how we said that twice.

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Yeah, black market in these
pills now, because they've been

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so widely prescribed, there was
a revolution in medicine in the

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United States, back in the 80s,
and 90s. That said, these pills

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are non addictive ones prescribe
to pain patients, chronic pain

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patients. So we had this kind of
rising sea level of pills all

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across all across the country, a
very deep black market developed

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in which these pills now cost
$1, a milligramme. Most of these

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pills come in 3040 80,
milligramme doses, that means

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you're you're having to pay
3040 80 bucks a pill, and a lot

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of people getting addicted,
their tolerance rises, they

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cannot, they end up using three,
four or five of these pills.

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I've met people who had three
$400 a day addictions, heroin on

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comes in. And it it's it's a
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that. And if you're already a
lot of these folks getting

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addicted to the pills have
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when they start injecting, it's
kind of like they've crossed the

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Rubicon in a sense. And so
heroin, injecting heroin isn't

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that much different from
injecting these pills. It just

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happens to be far cheaper

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to there's the there's what's
really going on with this

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epidemic in the United States,
and certainly in the United

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States, but I think it's it's
worldwide. And And finally,

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someone asked me ask the
question, where is this stuff

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coming from? which we believe is
from has this has to be from

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Afghanistan, I'd also say the
kind of the tail is this ace of

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spades stamp, ace of spades and
ace of hearts. These are very

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militaristic emblems, and
certainly found many units in

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Afghanistan. So that was just I
don't have any proof of this.

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But I'm thinking we

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can make that so I get to your
I'm Ben, you're teasing us a

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little too long here. What is
this theory?

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You need to? You need to have
some of the real information you

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need the background. Okay, I'll
walk I'll skip this clip, and

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you'll never hear it.

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Don't get mad about it. It's
just like, I'm waiting for the

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for the punch line. Come in.

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All right, here it is. Let's
listen to Quinonez one more

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time, I'm sorry. gairloch
kowski. With his messaging, kids

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get plenty of pro drug messages.
We need to give them anti drug

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messages, particularly around
heroin that work.

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Okay. What did he just say? Kids
get plenty of pro drug messages,

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which would be what you see on
television advertise what you

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see on the web about all these
groovy drugs, what we need to do

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is create some anti drug
messaging around heroin. We just

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play that again and listen to
it,

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kids get plenty of pro drug
messages, we need to give them

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anti drug messages, particularly
around heroin that work. So

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here's

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what I'm seeing. This is a war
between the pharmaceutical

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industry and the the illicit
drug industry whose pricing have

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dropped down now, from around
2015 to $20, just a couple years

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ago now to four or $5. And the
number one way to do that, if

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you want people to come back to
your drug, is to make the

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competitor's drug look
dangerous. And who has access to

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fentanyl, and it's especially
since there seems to be a

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shortage. I'm thinking the
pharmaceutical industry is at

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war, maybe even with just the
media who of course, shill for

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the banks and the political
horrors. And that's what that's

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what the heroin money runs. And
maybe they want some of that

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money back. But because they
haven't been advertising, you

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know, they're not the they're
not getting the exposure they

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want. I'm thinking it's very
possible that this has been a

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spike by pharmaceutical industry
to scare people away from the

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heroin, which kills you back
into the safer heroin, although

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it's more expensive. And you
know, just to prove their point,

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they say fucking kill an actor.
Which is what they always do

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when we really want to make a
point.

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Well, they had apparently 100
People are dying a day of

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overdoses and there's every so
often an actor gets involved in

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the actor. I don't know if
people have that much sympathy

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for, you know, the actors being
rich and then

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on heroin. Philip Seymour
Hoffman there's nothing but

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sympathy.

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Ya know, I'm saying but I think
I don't know how much of it is

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actually such that it would
affect the culture. I mean, it's

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just sympathy for you know, we
had sympathy for was a Whitney

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Houston or whatever. earned all
the rest of them that have

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dropped dead over the last. This
is

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very specific as it now comes to
light that he died of a mixture

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of heroin fentanyl, which no,

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no, that's been rebuked. That
that's been on and off. Yeah,

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no. Net last report was no.

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We. Okay, I have a different
report here. But you know, what

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is the New York Daily News

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versus Associated Press had the
fentanyl one. And then it was

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rebutted by the New York Daily
News. And then all the news

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outlets in New York who say that
wasn't fentanyl, they just say

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is still a problem. So I don't
know what I think could come

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back into play. There's
something fishy,

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going. I'm going to think that
was fentanyl. But you know,

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it'll it's almost it almost
doesn't matter at this point.

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Because I don't know

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why they by the way, why they
didn't get 60 bags or something

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according to them, but do
whatever they can. But

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the news is very consistent. The
news is, you get hooked on this

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prescription pills. Then you go
to the cheaper heroin L and now

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it's killing. You know, that is
the message. That's the message.

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And I think, particularly with
with the Affordable Care Act,

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maybe we're going to see some
repricing or something's going

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to happen, but people need to
get back on the regulated stuff.

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That seems to be the message
that I'm hearing. That seems to

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be the message from Gil
Kerlikowske.

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The message though, that's
actually coming through that I

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think the point you really
originally made, I think is a

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more valid one, which is that
the real messaging is you can

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use heroin, it's cheaper. And
then the end of when the guy

442
00:26:27,390 --> 00:26:31,080
says, oh, Oxycodone is the same
as heroin. I mean, that seems

443
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,330
like the wrong kind of messaging
is Yeah, no, no,

444
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:36,720
no, that messaging is totally
there, John, that is that is

445
00:26:36,750 --> 00:26:41,430
absolute. But I see two messages
that I'm thinking to fentanyl is

446
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:43,050
a message of a different sort.

447
00:26:43,470 --> 00:26:45,420
The fentanyl is the dangerous
mess. That's

448
00:26:45,420 --> 00:26:46,650
the dangerous message. Yeah, you

449
00:26:46,650 --> 00:26:49,080
can buy heroin on the street,
but you might get fentanyl and

450
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:49,710
be dead.

451
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,060
Now check this out. This is the
wonder drug Narcan, which is now

452
00:26:54,060 --> 00:26:57,720
being pushed. So this is by
prescription only this people

453
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,780
want this over the counter. It's
now going into the hands of

454
00:27:00,810 --> 00:27:04,290
police officers. EMT already
have it Vince core

455
00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:09,960
Valley son had overdosed on
heroin. He was starting to turn

456
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,290
blue, he wasn't breathing. He
was gasping for breath.

457
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:18,480
paramedics were carrying the
drug Naloxone, better known as

458
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,510
Narcan, five or so minutes they
came back said he was awake and

459
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:21,900
breathing.

460
00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:26,160
This person is actually waking
you up from the dead

461
00:27:26,370 --> 00:27:29,640
time or copies. Now the drug
that's long been used by

462
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,360
paramedics and in emergency
rooms, is in the hands of police

463
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:34,020
officers.

464
00:27:34,050 --> 00:27:36,810
And by the way, this package is
highly produced. This is a

465
00:27:36,810 --> 00:27:40,230
pharmaceutical industry produced
or at least paid for production

466
00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:43,380
package. This is not just your
local news that just threw this

467
00:27:43,380 --> 00:27:46,170
together. This is good. Listen,
all the sound effects cops who

468
00:27:46,170 --> 00:27:47,280
are often the first on

469
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,870
the scene of medical calls.

470
00:27:48,990 --> 00:27:52,170
It's very surreal. It's
literally the person is blue,

471
00:27:52,260 --> 00:27:55,200
the lips of blue, they're not
breathing. This individual did

472
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,780
not have a heartbeat, wake up,
and they're up and they're

473
00:27:57,780 --> 00:28:00,240
talking. It's simply amazing.

474
00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:03,180
Yes, by heroin or painkillers.
We're not going

475
00:28:03,180 --> 00:28:05,940
to arrest our way out of this
epidemic of substance abuse.

476
00:28:05,970 --> 00:28:08,310
It's a disease. So we have to
help the people.

477
00:28:08,340 --> 00:28:11,850
The Quincy Police Department's
track record using Narcan is

478
00:28:11,850 --> 00:28:18,060
extraordinary. Its officers have
administered it 221 times and

479
00:28:18,060 --> 00:28:23,070
reversed 211 overdoses in just
over three years. This

480
00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:25,980
is kind of like the pulp fiction
thing where you need new jabs

481
00:28:25,980 --> 00:28:28,830
the adrenaline needle in her
chest and she comes back to

482
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:31,380
life. That's literally what this
is, except you spray it into

483
00:28:31,380 --> 00:28:35,190
someone's nose. And as they're
dying of an overdose as they

484
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:38,730
come back to life, it completely
nullifies the effects of heroin.

485
00:28:40,020 --> 00:28:45,570
So how about this for a thought?
You've made a mountain out of a

486
00:28:45,570 --> 00:28:49,200
molehill and all this is
orchestrated by the company that

487
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,320
makes Narcan which is by the way
should be a generic drug from

488
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,310
the way I see only

489
00:28:53,310 --> 00:28:58,560
one company makes it Sankyo. Let
me see

490
00:28:58,590 --> 00:29:03,360
is next Naloxone, which is the
is the drug itself. Yes, was

491
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,780
developed by Sankyo, in the 60s,
which means that anyone can make

492
00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:07,230
it but only

493
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:10,140
as far as I know only one
company actually makes its

494
00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:10,740
market under

495
00:29:10,740 --> 00:29:15,090
various trademarks, including
Narcan, Naloxone, Narcan t,

496
00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:17,640
which is three different drugs
which was three different

497
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,150
countries and

498
00:29:18,270 --> 00:29:21,900
companies I don't know if
they're from I had a note that

499
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:25,020
said it was just one but it
could be putting out one is

500
00:29:25,020 --> 00:29:29,490
generic and there's not all that
much money to be made.

501
00:29:29,670 --> 00:29:33,300
That's not true. The big drug
companies are buying up all the

502
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:35,880
generic companies and they're
charging the same for example,

503
00:29:35,910 --> 00:29:40,830
Provigil has gone generic and if
you go buy the generic version

504
00:29:40,830 --> 00:29:43,290
is the same price actually, it's
a little more alright.

505
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,450
Well, this couldn't be that that
could be one part of it seems

506
00:29:48,450 --> 00:29:51,630
like this is the magical drug
and you see article after

507
00:29:51,630 --> 00:29:54,840
article now with people saying,
Oh, if only someone if only

508
00:29:56,070 --> 00:30:00,300
Hoffman had had some Narcan and
someone around a buddy say 50

509
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:00,780
Buddy.

510
00:30:01,050 --> 00:30:04,320
Well, they had if you look it
up, if you look up knacks alone,

511
00:30:04,740 --> 00:30:08,490
you'll find there on the web.
There are everybody's talking

512
00:30:08,490 --> 00:30:12,090
about Ohio wants more and all
the rest of it. Right. So this

513
00:30:12,090 --> 00:30:17,820
is a big deal. you've stumbled
onto? I'm not sure that the the

514
00:30:17,820 --> 00:30:21,000
other aspect, which is, you
know, get people on oxycodone?

515
00:30:21,150 --> 00:30:23,940
Well, there's there's three
aspects, I think there's much

516
00:30:23,940 --> 00:30:30,240
more to it. One is we have the
the heroin trade, which runs our

517
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:35,790
banking industry, which runs so
much. You know, that needs to be

518
00:30:35,790 --> 00:30:39,120
propagated. And so, you know,
this is why we have this

519
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,130
conversation ongoing, and it all
the dangerous talk gets people

520
00:30:44,130 --> 00:30:48,900
to do it more. But there is most
definitely led by the drugs are

521
00:30:49,140 --> 00:30:52,530
a push to get people back. And
it's all about education. And we

522
00:30:52,530 --> 00:30:54,420
can't you know, you heard that
you can't We can't arrest our

523
00:30:54,420 --> 00:30:56,280
way out of this. We can't make
any laws people have to

524
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,620
understand, and the
understanding will come in the

525
00:30:58,620 --> 00:31:03,090
form of you need to take the
good stuff. The only problem is

526
00:31:03,090 --> 00:31:06,420
who's going to pay for it. And
then this Narcan pops up and

527
00:31:06,420 --> 00:31:09,510
this was actually I was tipped
off to this by Chad, our, our

528
00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:14,940
firemen, EMT guy in a boulder.
And he says just wait he says

529
00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:17,400
just wait because he's had this
in his in his pack for a long

530
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,580
time because he helps put out
fires, but most of the time he's

531
00:31:20,580 --> 00:31:21,840
dealing with morons.

532
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:28,020
What is the cost of this stuff?
$20 $20. Yeah, that's a good

533
00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:28,410
deal.

534
00:31:28,919 --> 00:31:32,069
You'd want to hear what Chad had
to say about Narcan. Sure. He's

535
00:31:32,069 --> 00:31:35,459
because I sent this video to
him. He said Ha, if only Narcan

536
00:31:35,459 --> 00:31:37,769
were so simple, it's a pretty
amazing drug. It really does

537
00:31:37,769 --> 00:31:41,219
turn so he's he uses this on
people who are od ng it really

538
00:31:41,219 --> 00:31:43,589
does turn people back on pretty
much instantly. Of course when

539
00:31:43,589 --> 00:31:46,109
people get bounced back that
hard with Narcan they almost

540
00:31:46,109 --> 00:31:49,349
always puke and a generally
pissed and sometimes go into

541
00:31:49,349 --> 00:31:53,849
immediate withdrawal, which can
include seizures, not fun. I

542
00:31:53,849 --> 00:31:59,309
generally understatement I
generally administer this and it

543
00:31:59,309 --> 00:32:01,769
gets worse. I generally
administer the absolute minimum

544
00:32:01,769 --> 00:32:04,019
dose to keep them breathing. Of
course, I can monitor things

545
00:32:04,019 --> 00:32:08,399
like blood oxygen levels, and
exhaled exhaled end tidal co2

546
00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:11,729
which is helpful as a data
junkie is so much easier and

547
00:32:11,729 --> 00:32:15,419
safer to manage than the full
power junkie also. The half life

548
00:32:15,419 --> 00:32:18,779
of Narcan is usually much less
than most opiates. This means

549
00:32:19,109 --> 00:32:22,739
that people wake up, the Narcan
wears off and then the opioids

550
00:32:22,739 --> 00:32:25,439
before the opiates do and then
they go back to being to

551
00:32:25,439 --> 00:32:29,759
overdosing. Of course, things
get more complicated with a

552
00:32:29,969 --> 00:32:34,799
Polyform overdose. The meth
heroin combo is fairly common.

553
00:32:35,249 --> 00:32:37,949
I'm learning stuff I never
thought I'd ever know. In the

554
00:32:37,949 --> 00:32:41,609
case of the meth head who freaks
out and needs to come down right

555
00:32:41,609 --> 00:32:44,519
fucking now he may choose to
medicate his whacked out meth

556
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:46,889
mind with whatever available
central nervous system

557
00:32:46,889 --> 00:32:50,249
depressant he has handy. Heroin
is very good at this. It's cheap

558
00:32:50,249 --> 00:32:53,879
and prolific so the meth head
shoots heroin to come down and

559
00:32:53,879 --> 00:32:57,179
goes Nighty night starts to OD
then when Joe jinga last

560
00:32:57,179 --> 00:33:00,689
paramedic gets called because
meth man turned blue and hits

561
00:33:00,689 --> 00:33:03,959
him with the full monty dose of
Narcan. The meth head awakens

562
00:33:03,959 --> 00:33:06,719
completely redecorated the back
of the ambulance with the vomit

563
00:33:06,719 --> 00:33:10,199
exorcist exorcist style. And
because the meth is still active

564
00:33:10,199 --> 00:33:13,829
under all the heroin becomes the
Incredible Hulk. He says when

565
00:33:13,829 --> 00:33:16,199
you're puke wrestling The
Incredible Hulk all by yourself

566
00:33:16,199 --> 00:33:18,629
in the back of a six by eight
foot box. This is not so much

567
00:33:18,629 --> 00:33:21,809
fun. I pervert I prefer this a
data junkie.

568
00:33:22,590 --> 00:33:25,140
But this is there's a lot going
on the strap these guys down a

569
00:33:25,140 --> 00:33:25,800
bit time.

570
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,740
Yeah, well, of course, because
the Narcan does away with the

571
00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:31,290
heroin overdose, but then the
meth comes back and they become

572
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,130
insane.

573
00:33:32,159 --> 00:33:34,559
This doesn't sound good to
people got to stop using these

574
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:36,269
stupid drugs every idiotic

575
00:33:36,930 --> 00:33:39,240
the more than the heroin is just
not a good drug.

576
00:33:39,719 --> 00:33:41,099
Well, and meth is.

577
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,630
So you know, it's,

578
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:48,690
I find there's definitely
something going on. I have two

579
00:33:48,690 --> 00:33:53,010
clips. Because I think it I
don't know where it applies on

580
00:33:53,010 --> 00:33:55,500
this. But they're these drug
companies are up to something

581
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,460
because this these are two
produced clips that are that

582
00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:03,300
came in his packages. And to me
that is part of the war on

583
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:06,060
generics. And we've talked about
this before. There's two wars

584
00:34:06,060 --> 00:34:08,730
going on by these drug
companies. One is the generics.

585
00:34:08,730 --> 00:34:11,130
They, they try. Like I said,
they buy the companies up and

586
00:34:11,130 --> 00:34:14,310
then they charge the same price
for the generic drug to screw

587
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:19,200
the customer, right. And then
there's the what's the there's

588
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,450
another do you have this other
war going on? But let's play

589
00:34:21,450 --> 00:34:25,200
this war on generics? Part one
just

590
00:34:25,739 --> 00:34:29,729
hormone drospirenone used in Yaz
and the generics that followed

591
00:34:29,879 --> 00:34:32,969
is associated with double the
risk of blood clotting when

592
00:34:32,969 --> 00:34:36,509
compared to earlier oral
contraceptive formulas. However,

593
00:34:36,509 --> 00:34:39,779
doctors note that the risk with
any oral contraceptive is still

594
00:34:39,779 --> 00:34:43,139
much lower than the clotting
risks associated with pregnancy.

595
00:34:43,379 --> 00:34:46,259
But what the Alexander's
discovered next affects more

596
00:34:46,259 --> 00:34:48,179
than just women. If you were
taking

597
00:34:48,180 --> 00:34:54,600
a brand name drug, you can sue
the manufacturer for problems

598
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,610
with side effects and death. But
she was on generic drug so we

599
00:34:59,610 --> 00:35:00,960
have no recourse

600
00:35:00,990 --> 00:35:04,890
in 1992, the FDA started
requiring generic drug labels

601
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,820
match the brand name versions,
the goal assured doctors

602
00:35:08,820 --> 00:35:12,480
generics were equivalent to
brand names. But since then, a

603
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,560
series of Supreme Court cases
has led to sweeping protections

604
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,670
for the makers of generic drugs,
including Pliva V min scene

605
00:35:20,850 --> 00:35:24,240
where the court ruled, you can't
hold generic drug manufacturers

606
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:27,720
liable for failing to warn
consumers of risk. Because the

607
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:31,800
generic label is a copy of the
brand name as required by the

608
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,580
FDA.

609
00:35:32,610 --> 00:35:36,570
Right now the law is in a state
of chaos where no consumer has

610
00:35:36,570 --> 00:35:40,350
any rights at all against
directly against a Generic

611
00:35:40,380 --> 00:35:42,960
Pharmaceutical Company. And
we're all scratching our heads

612
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,130
trying to figure out what to do
with it

613
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,790
now generics accounted for 80%
of all prescriptions, and the

614
00:35:47,790 --> 00:35:51,330
FDA is considering a rule
change. It would allow generic

615
00:35:51,330 --> 00:35:54,780
manufacturers to update labels
independent of brand named

616
00:35:54,780 --> 00:35:58,500
counterparts. Family planning
expert, Dr. Michael Paul Carr

617
00:35:58,620 --> 00:36:02,250
says that would help inform
consumers about risks sooner.

618
00:36:02,490 --> 00:36:05,400
But in the meantime, women need
to consider all birth control

619
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,120
options.

620
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,820
This is really what a bonanza
these guys already had it for

621
00:36:08,820 --> 00:36:12,480
the vaccines where you can't sue
them for if you if you die or

622
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,870
get anything from a vaccination.
And now they buy up the

623
00:36:15,870 --> 00:36:18,660
generics. And you just can't sue
anybody because it's just some

624
00:36:18,660 --> 00:36:19,530
generic thing.

625
00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:23,250
Yeah, and then they but they
still would like you to buy the

626
00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:26,460
brand names or at least
associate because when you do

627
00:36:26,490 --> 00:36:28,890
this, you get the you get the
full impact.

628
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,970
They're both other methods that
are more effective and safer,

629
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,720
for example, like intrauterine
devices, and implants. And then

630
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:39,630
there are 50 different oral
contraceptive pills on the

631
00:36:39,630 --> 00:36:40,050
market as

632
00:36:40,050 --> 00:36:43,440
well, generic manufacturers are
fighting changes, and ask the

633
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,320
FDA to take more time
considering them in this letter,

634
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,160
the changes as proposed will
have far reaching consequences

635
00:36:50,190 --> 00:36:54,300
affecting patient safety, as
well as health care costs. But

636
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:57,750
that argument isn't enough for
Jane and Michael Alexander, who

637
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:59,940
are holding out hope for change.

638
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:06,900
It's too late for us. It's too
late for Lauren. But it's not

639
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:12,810
too late for other people who
are harmed by generic drugs.

640
00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:15,750
harmed harmed. Yeah. So

641
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:18,210
they had these people coming to
see your harm by generic drugs

642
00:37:18,210 --> 00:37:21,720
now that what you said is, is
very interesting, because first

643
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:24,750
of all, it did report why would
the generic drug companies want

644
00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:27,330
to change anything if they're if
they're off the hook for

645
00:37:27,330 --> 00:37:30,450
everything? So that's
something's bogus about that

646
00:37:30,450 --> 00:37:33,150
logic? Yeah. Seems to me, I'm
off the hook for everything. I

647
00:37:33,150 --> 00:37:35,640
don't want to change anything.
I'm not gonna get involved.

648
00:37:35,790 --> 00:37:37,980
Or maybe it's just the
flexibility if they need to add

649
00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:40,200
something, you know, there's
there's something Yeah, but it's

650
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,300
a new side effect, or big drug

651
00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:46,140
companies that are are the ones
that are buying up all these

652
00:37:46,140 --> 00:37:49,140
generic companies. And so I
think your first assertion,

653
00:37:49,140 --> 00:37:52,590
which is that, let's move this
to a generic charge, same amount

654
00:37:52,590 --> 00:37:56,820
of money. Ah, and take
yourselves take yourselves right

655
00:37:56,820 --> 00:37:57,870
out of the legal implications.

656
00:37:57,870 --> 00:38:01,410
Right. Interesting. Well,

657
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,630
there's and by the way, this is
what I think this war on

658
00:38:03,630 --> 00:38:08,670
generics is, is not, it may not
really be a war on generics at

659
00:38:08,670 --> 00:38:11,730
all, it may be a fan of
cakewalk. And the war on

660
00:38:11,730 --> 00:38:13,980
compounding is the other one
that's going on.

661
00:38:14,009 --> 00:38:17,009
Oh, that's insurance, no longer
coverage, compounding.

662
00:38:17,220 --> 00:38:19,890
So there's something phoney
about all this stuff. And it all

663
00:38:19,890 --> 00:38:23,250
leads to the big pharma
companies? Well, as I say your

664
00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:26,970
report does to the of course it
does. Yes. And it's like Big

665
00:38:26,970 --> 00:38:30,780
Pharma once. But you know, I
don't know and maybe have

666
00:38:30,780 --> 00:38:34,440
something to do the advertising
but something's going on.

667
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,650
Because this is a lot of just a
lot of smoke screen. It seems to

668
00:38:37,650 --> 00:38:41,550
me for all kinds of sums.
Somebody in the drug business

669
00:38:41,550 --> 00:38:45,480
must know the message. Somebody
got a memo somewhere, and

670
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,160
they've got to send us a copy of
it.

671
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,290
But this the the fentanyl thing
is so weird that this happened

672
00:38:52,290 --> 00:38:56,580
in 2006. They said it came from
Mexico. But now there's we have

673
00:38:56,580 --> 00:39:00,960
actual users of fentanyl, who
can't get it or the refilling

674
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,250
that prescription takes two
weeks up to two weeks. And this

675
00:39:05,250 --> 00:39:08,550
is from producers who have
emailed me directly. And I

676
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:11,730
really look for the Syria
chemical weapons connection.

677
00:39:12,210 --> 00:39:15,630
It's very hard to although metal
fentanyl of course would come

678
00:39:15,630 --> 00:39:20,520
from Russia. And Experts
disagree whether that was used

679
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:24,930
in in Syria to there's no hard
evidence that it was used.

680
00:39:25,980 --> 00:39:29,610
There. There's a lot of
indications that would make

681
00:39:29,610 --> 00:39:33,540
sense for for Russian weaponry
to cut what we've also

682
00:39:33,570 --> 00:39:35,910
we've know the Russians supply
this series with all their

683
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:37,380
weaponry, so why wouldn't they

684
00:39:37,410 --> 00:39:42,210
we have also used fentanyl gas
in Iraq. And this was there was

685
00:39:42,210 --> 00:39:49,140
a big, I think was the sunshine
report or something I have it in

686
00:39:49,140 --> 00:39:52,320
the show notes somewhere. This
was a Rumsfeld thing. Rumsfeld

687
00:39:52,350 --> 00:39:57,480
really wanted fentanyl gas, to
be legalised and to run outside

688
00:39:57,510 --> 00:40:01,470
of the chemical weapons tree.
because he said it well, it's

689
00:40:01,470 --> 00:40:05,550
not really a chemical weapon and
singing capacitor. Of course,

690
00:40:05,550 --> 00:40:07,800
unfortunately, when you get
incapacitated, you can't breathe

691
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:13,230
and you die. But there was there
was a big, big detail for him.

692
00:40:13,230 --> 00:40:17,310
Yeah, very, very annoyingly
small detail, what was it

693
00:40:17,310 --> 00:40:22,680
called? It was called the a lot
of this has really been removed

694
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,920
from the record and Google
washed and you can't find any of

695
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,030
this anymore. But in Iraq, there
are accounts of American made

696
00:40:30,270 --> 00:40:35,040
fentanyl gas being sprayed from
helicopters onto onto citizens

697
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,860
and then a base basically, you
puke and you stop breathing, you

698
00:40:37,860 --> 00:40:44,670
die. So why, why this is
happening now. It may just be

699
00:40:44,670 --> 00:40:48,180
coincidental that maybe there
was a lot of fentanyl all of a

700
00:40:48,180 --> 00:40:50,160
sudden showing up on the
marketplace, which is what we

701
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,590
surmised a little bit on the
last show, but I'm thinking

702
00:40:52,590 --> 00:40:55,650
more. I'm thinking this is
coming from somewhere else.

703
00:41:00,090 --> 00:41:03,870
People are crazy about the
fentanyl. Chad told me that he

704
00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:07,050
he's witnessed people who had
stolen the patches would roll up

705
00:41:07,050 --> 00:41:10,110
the patch and tried to smoke the
patch directly. Just a roll the

706
00:41:10,110 --> 00:41:10,800
hatch.

707
00:41:10,890 --> 00:41:12,300
What is wrong with everybody?

708
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,570
Well, now this is this is
another point. This is all the

709
00:41:15,570 --> 00:41:21,060
people keep talking about it
being a sickness. This addiction

710
00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:27,120
to heroin and heroin opioids but
really the way I understand how

711
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,490
it happens, and I'm going to be
able to talk to the brain

712
00:41:29,490 --> 00:41:31,620
Professor tomorrow night, we
have another one of our Obama

713
00:41:31,620 --> 00:41:36,840
bot dinners. Oh, good. What
happens is the the this, the

714
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,890
opioid comes into the brain
hijacks your, your neuro

715
00:41:40,890 --> 00:41:45,150
receptor pleasure centre, and
basically ruins it. So your

716
00:41:45,150 --> 00:41:47,610
brain only really responds to
happiness coming from the

717
00:41:47,610 --> 00:41:54,540
opioids no longer from your,
from your natural. Your natural

718
00:41:54,570 --> 00:41:59,400
meth has a similar effect of
ruining your brain so you can't

719
00:41:59,430 --> 00:42:00,510
enjoy things. Right.

720
00:42:01,260 --> 00:42:03,780
So is that a sickness? Well,
it's a

721
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:08,040
it was not a disease. It's not
it's not airborne. It's a is it

722
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,440
a sickness? It's a syndrome, I
think.

723
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,870
But it's self inflicted
syndrome.

724
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,850
Yeah, well, no, I'm chop off
your arm and it would be you'd

725
00:42:17,850 --> 00:42:18,720
wouldn't have an arm?

726
00:42:19,710 --> 00:42:22,650
No, but that's that's what I
mean is I just get this

727
00:42:22,650 --> 00:42:26,130
constant. Oh, it's so sad. He
has the sickness. And like, I'm

728
00:42:26,130 --> 00:42:27,630
not so sure about all that.

729
00:42:27,660 --> 00:42:30,810
Well, if they did, if the effect
is permanent, which it is with

730
00:42:30,810 --> 00:42:34,560
math, supposedly, where you
actually ruin

731
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,610
your pleasure centre. condition,
then it's not but it's not okay.

732
00:42:38,610 --> 00:42:39,600
Yeah, it's a condition

733
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,820
that it's a brain damage. You
just essentially Okay, here it

734
00:42:41,820 --> 00:42:44,400
is, wants you to sit yourself in
the head with a hammer, right?

735
00:42:44,430 --> 00:42:46,710
And see what happens is it you
know, or get a concussion or

736
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:52,230
two. It's creates a bridge. It's
sounds like it causes brain

737
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:52,560
damage,

738
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,980
right. But then then what
happens is people get this brain

739
00:42:55,980 --> 00:42:59,100
damage from the legally
prescribed pharmaceutical

740
00:42:59,100 --> 00:42:59,850
versions.

741
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:04,200
Now, the whole thing that you
overlooked in this is another

742
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:09,390
kind of, of an argument that's
going around, it began on sports

743
00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:15,450
channels. And it was a special
done on Real Sports with Brian

744
00:43:15,450 --> 00:43:18,720
Gumbel. That's probably why I
overlooked it. Yeah, well,

745
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:21,330
you're overlooking some
interesting stuff. Because there

746
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,590
there's a big huge movement
among the football players. To

747
00:43:25,590 --> 00:43:29,580
get the NFL to legalise
marijuana. We've talked about

748
00:43:29,580 --> 00:43:32,160
this. Yes, I know. I'm gonna but
you didn't bring this up.

749
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,070
Because there was a couple
aspects we didn't talk about,

750
00:43:35,070 --> 00:43:38,700
which is that many of the
football players believe that

751
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:41,460
the heroin derivatives and some
of these drugs that they're

752
00:43:41,460 --> 00:43:44,400
getting, including one guy who
apparently blew out his kidneys

753
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,610
and had to go on dialysis over
some painkiller that he was

754
00:43:47,610 --> 00:43:52,890
prescribed to an extreme is they
say that works better marijuana

755
00:43:52,890 --> 00:43:55,410
and doesn't have any after
effects in his psyche you tick

756
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,360
instead of taking these horrible
opiates? Yeah, but um, they know

757
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,700
but it and they don't see it
being a problem.

758
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:05,370
But I'm not hearing this
conversation in the lexicon. Um,

759
00:44:05,370 --> 00:44:06,630
this is why either and I'm

760
00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:10,950
wondering what why we have these
parallel debates going on with

761
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:16,200
no conclusion because this
again, to me would indicate that

762
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,480
they're maybe they're trying
here, how about this for an idea

763
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:22,290
there? The marijuana thing is
huge. It's taking over the place

764
00:44:22,650 --> 00:44:26,010
in terms of what's going on
culturally. It's going to be

765
00:44:26,010 --> 00:44:29,460
legal everywhere, eventually,
but nobody wants that. This is a

766
00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:32,910
huge threat to the industry.
Because of what the football

767
00:44:32,910 --> 00:44:36,750
players say is true. They don't
these these all these, these

768
00:44:37,140 --> 00:44:40,080
anti pain medications could be
wiped out by something and grow

769
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,950
in your backyard. It's possible
that trying to draw attention to

770
00:44:43,950 --> 00:44:46,890
the other side of this debate
keep marijuana completely out of

771
00:44:46,890 --> 00:44:50,370
the argument because there was
not one thing in the entire

772
00:44:50,850 --> 00:44:54,480
research you did just now or
anything I've heard were the

773
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,750
heroin issue and marijuana is
brought up the gateway drug is

774
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:59,520
no longer marijuana. It used to
be no

775
00:44:59,730 --> 00:45:03,060
it Everybody knows the gateway
drug is Facebook this is obvious

776
00:45:03,060 --> 00:45:09,570
now. I'm not kidding either.
Well, well not seriously

777
00:45:09,570 --> 00:45:13,860
Facebook is it messes with your
brain it's like let me show

778
00:45:13,860 --> 00:45:17,010
everybody that I'm not a total
loser and please Like me Like me

779
00:45:17,010 --> 00:45:20,100
Like me Like me. This is not
this is not healthy. This is

780
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:21,360
very unhealthy behaviour.

781
00:45:21,630 --> 00:45:24,450
You just jumped? I don't know
what you did. You didn't jump a

782
00:45:24,450 --> 00:45:27,330
shark you jumped a chasm of
samsara. You brought Facebook

783
00:45:27,330 --> 00:45:27,750
into it,

784
00:45:27,780 --> 00:45:30,990
I'm just telling you that I
believe that that Facebook is a

785
00:45:30,990 --> 00:45:34,260
gateway drug that's all we can
go back to marijuana. How about

786
00:45:34,260 --> 00:45:40,680
this? What if the idea is to so
we have the parallel of the

787
00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:45,120
legal heroin and the illegal
heroin in both cases they're not

788
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,030
good because they permanently
damage your pleasure centre your

789
00:45:48,030 --> 00:45:54,720
receptors but in in unsupervised
use you die How about we go to

790
00:45:54,750 --> 00:45:59,580
pharmaceutically produced
marijuana I think a lot of

791
00:45:59,580 --> 00:46:04,050
people would be very into that
idea that okay, it's no matter

792
00:46:04,050 --> 00:46:08,010
what I do whether I grow it
whether I drink it, smoke it and

793
00:46:08,010 --> 00:46:11,340
put it in my butt I'm not going
to OD from it, but it's probably

794
00:46:11,340 --> 00:46:13,980
better if I have the
pharmaceutical industry make it

795
00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:15,750
for me and measure it properly.

796
00:46:18,660 --> 00:46:20,310
I think I think that boats
already

797
00:46:20,310 --> 00:46:22,620
sale maybe maybe I don't know
there's a lot of money.

798
00:46:22,649 --> 00:46:24,839
I mean, have you been to one of
these dispensaries?

799
00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:29,400
No, no? No, I go to the corner
like normal people. It's like

800
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:37,470
they have a man got a damn bag
for me. Those days are over. Oh

801
00:46:37,470 --> 00:46:39,600
really? Dime I

802
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,730
used to do you know Silk Road
until they got rid of it? I

803
00:46:44,730 --> 00:46:48,660
would. I'm afraid to do it. Now
I'm afraid of what is? Or I

804
00:46:48,660 --> 00:46:51,660
don't I don't I don't what order
and I don't know when you order

805
00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:53,400
some which again, I'm not
telling you. I'm not gonna

806
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:58,290
incriminate myself. Oreos are
just as addictive as cocaine. I

807
00:46:58,290 --> 00:46:59,220
ordered Oreo. You're

808
00:46:59,220 --> 00:47:01,710
right. There's something about
well, I don't know. But here's

809
00:47:01,710 --> 00:47:04,680
the here's the here's your
coincidence. 10 year anniversary

810
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,710
of Facebook massive amounts of
heroin use.

811
00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:15,600
I'm just no coincidence. I'm
pointing out the obvious. I'm

812
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:20,970
not, I'm not making this up. I
see people going into very weird

813
00:47:20,970 --> 00:47:25,500
modes because of Facebook. And
there's there's there's of

814
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:28,440
course, there's all kinds of
dopey Stupid, stupid surveys.

815
00:47:28,830 --> 00:47:32,430
But once you're not on Facebook,
I check this thing out regularly

816
00:47:32,430 --> 00:47:36,210
at least. There you go. Yes, two
or three times a week, and I get

817
00:47:36,210 --> 00:47:37,560
and I can feel it. Just

818
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,320
come on. admit it. Admit it.
You'd go more than that. No, I

819
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:40,470
do

820
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:45,510
not. Absolutely not. I don't. I
can't. It makes me unhappy. It's

821
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:48,570
just like watching television.
Although when I was watching the

822
00:47:48,570 --> 00:47:52,020
Super Bowl, of course, I got
pretty happy. Because now like,

823
00:47:52,290 --> 00:47:55,980
my prediction came true. A year
the better predictor of the two

824
00:47:55,980 --> 00:47:58,050
of us and I have to be honest
with you though. There's

825
00:47:58,050 --> 00:47:58,950
something I didn't tell you.

826
00:47:59,370 --> 00:48:01,590
What you knew the game was
rigged. Well,

827
00:48:01,620 --> 00:48:05,430
the game is rigged. That's why
it's easy for us to guess it nor

828
00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:10,290
to to predict who's going to win
because yeah, of course. Please

829
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,500
Did you see that first snap?
Come on. Oh, come on.

830
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,260
Well, here's what's interesting
about that first snap I found

831
00:48:16,260 --> 00:48:20,340
out is there was actually a I
think it was an IT WASN'T eight

832
00:48:20,340 --> 00:48:23,610
to one but it was something like
50 to one there was an eight to

833
00:48:23,610 --> 00:48:26,160
one bet that you could get in
Vegas that said there'll be a

834
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,750
safety in the golf Well, hello,
very game has a safety but wait,

835
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,740
there was a 50 to one I think
was 50 to one and somebody

836
00:48:34,740 --> 00:48:37,680
pointed out that those odds seem
actually kind of low for this

837
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,520
bet which was Will there be a
safety on the first play of the

838
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:41,670
bet

839
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:43,320
must have been more than 50 to
one?

840
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:50,250
No, that's the point well, no
The point is we're waiting here

841
00:48:50,250 --> 00:48:53,700
this out the reason it wasn't as
high as it should have been

842
00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:57,090
which seems to me to be 10,000
to one Yeah, it's because they

843
00:48:57,090 --> 00:49:00,540
everybody knew it everybody was
in they were all in and the odds

844
00:49:00,540 --> 00:49:01,920
came way down Oh,

845
00:49:02,010 --> 00:49:05,100
is there a way to get a chart of
these odds to see if if the

846
00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:05,640
Odyssey

847
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,590
that you can watch odds change
but you'd have to try it

848
00:49:07,590 --> 00:49:09,420
yourself charted? Right. Oh,

849
00:49:09,450 --> 00:49:12,600
well, of course. So besides
that, it's rigged. I told you I

850
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,830
had a feeling this like no, I
also named the Pope. I'm a time

851
00:49:16,830 --> 00:49:19,620
traveller. Should I come on? I'm
a time traveller.

852
00:49:20,550 --> 00:49:24,180
Yeah, you might be. You have no
proof that you're not

853
00:49:24,450 --> 00:49:28,770
you know what Mickey said? buy a
lottery ticket. Douchebag

854
00:49:28,980 --> 00:49:32,790
Yeah, right. I agree with
lottery tickets.

855
00:49:33,660 --> 00:49:36,420
Really? Really? You want to show
me your time dollar buy lottery

856
00:49:36,420 --> 00:49:36,810
tickets. See

857
00:49:36,810 --> 00:49:42,780
what bitch Exactly. Anyway, go
on with what you how you got

858
00:49:42,780 --> 00:49:43,590
this information.

859
00:49:44,850 --> 00:49:49,650
Know that? I didn't know why I
got it did. I felt I told you I

860
00:49:49,650 --> 00:49:52,110
felt it. I tried to shoehorn it
in I came up with the bowing

861
00:49:52,110 --> 00:49:55,170
angle you didn't like it? People
say you know, by the way, the

862
00:49:55,230 --> 00:49:58,290
the marijuana laws do not kick
in until April in Washington

863
00:49:58,290 --> 00:50:01,200
State apparently. Yeah. So the
It was that that difference?

864
00:50:01,290 --> 00:50:03,420
There's another one that we
completely overlooked because we

865
00:50:03,420 --> 00:50:06,870
are so incredibly colorblind on
this show. This was a black

866
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:10,020
quarterback versus a white
quarterback. There's that I

867
00:50:10,020 --> 00:50:13,530
didn't think of that. Or I never
heard it. But you know, I was

868
00:50:13,530 --> 00:50:17,460
like, well, whatever. Young guy
versus old guy rich guy versus

869
00:50:17,460 --> 00:50:20,850
not so rich guy. I think Windows
eight really is the is the main.

870
00:50:21,420 --> 00:50:24,060
That's the main issue that
Seattle needed to win Windows

871
00:50:24,060 --> 00:50:25,920
eight is just that explains
everything because

872
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,880
there was an eight in the score.
Already three to eight.

873
00:50:30,569 --> 00:50:33,089
But just tell me you were
sitting there going fire frown

874
00:50:33,089 --> 00:50:33,449
roof.

875
00:50:33,930 --> 00:50:37,500
I was know when I saw the first
play that that safety. You went,

876
00:50:37,530 --> 00:50:41,280
Ah, I said that's it. This games
this game, you might as well

877
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,820
just, it's over. I didn't
realise that the Denver team was

878
00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:48,630
going to be such nervous wrecks.
And then it just got worse and

879
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:52,410
worse and worse. And it just
became obvious that one, you

880
00:50:52,410 --> 00:50:55,470
know, if the team if they played
up to any kind of potential,

881
00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:57,990
there was no comparison, the
Denver team was just

882
00:50:57,990 --> 00:51:01,170
incompetent. And they said all
the records this year was a

883
00:51:01,170 --> 00:51:02,370
setup for the betting

884
00:51:02,399 --> 00:51:07,229
public. Well, my favourite of
everything. Of course, you know,

885
00:51:07,229 --> 00:51:11,099
we had all the security and we
had the snipers. And it was a

886
00:51:11,099 --> 00:51:17,369
level one net national security
event. Yet no problem for a 911

887
00:51:17,369 --> 00:51:21,899
truther to just roll up on stage
and hop on the bus, get through

888
00:51:21,899 --> 00:51:25,739
everything with some bogus past
that he had from you know, like,

889
00:51:26,069 --> 00:51:31,919
the Milli Vanilli concert and
comes right in everything about

890
00:51:31,919 --> 00:51:32,699
being a VP

891
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,010
investigating 911 911

892
00:51:38,010 --> 00:51:39,780
was perpetrated by people within
our own government.

893
00:51:40,290 --> 00:51:43,740
Now, what kind of security is
that? That's not very good.

894
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,030
Security. Now, no one is going
like Oh, how did that happen?

895
00:51:48,330 --> 00:51:52,350
Gee, oh, I'm sorry. The minute
the game ends, it's no longer a

896
00:51:52,350 --> 00:51:58,230
security threat, apparently.
While 10s of 1000s of people are

897
00:51:58,230 --> 00:52:03,480
still waiting to get onto New
Jersey Transit. So I guess what

898
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,790
the snipers went home. It's just
all done at that point. We

899
00:52:05,790 --> 00:52:08,130
don't shut him off right there.
Oh, yeah. Where

900
00:52:08,130 --> 00:52:13,530
was the red.on his head? Ah,
that. It makes me so mad that

901
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:18,900
that no one picks that up and
says, Hello. All of that talk

902
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:24,870
about the you know, the air
strikes in the ring of steel

903
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:28,950
zones. All this stuff now? Mom,
no, nothing happened now. Now.

904
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:29,940
Now. It's okay,

905
00:52:29,970 --> 00:52:34,440
but have been a terrorist. So
people can get in it, but it

906
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:39,720
looked at associate thing. Well,
before we do that? Don't know

907
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:43,620
not before we do that. Just say
what else did you have to say

908
00:52:43,620 --> 00:52:44,280
there? Adam?

909
00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:47,700
I wanted to say thank you for
your courage and in the morning

910
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:49,080
to your John C. Dvorak.

911
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:54,390
And in the morning to you, Adam
curry. Yeah. And in the morning

912
00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:56,670
all ships and sea boots on the
ground feet in the air subs in

913
00:52:56,670 --> 00:52:59,910
the water. And all the Dames and
nights out there. And we have

914
00:52:59,910 --> 00:53:00,810
quite a few of them.

915
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,400
We do and thank you to our human
resources in the chat room. No

916
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,250
agenda stream.com no agenda
chat.net Thanks for being there

917
00:53:08,250 --> 00:53:10,530
hanging out with us today. Thank
you to our artists. Thank you

918
00:53:10,530 --> 00:53:15,420
Patrick boughs for the artwork
on episode 588. No agenda art

919
00:53:15,420 --> 00:53:18,090
generated art comm is where you
can find all of the submissions.

920
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:23,970
We use them for our newsletters.
We use them for for just for

921
00:53:23,970 --> 00:53:26,040
everything pretty things to look
at. Sometimes they want it but

922
00:53:26,370 --> 00:53:29,310
it went on the wall every once
in a while. Exactly. And we have

923
00:53:29,310 --> 00:53:29,970
our

924
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:36,720
our trademark patented value for
value model, which means if we

925
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,450
don't take any advertising
money, if you actually like the

926
00:53:39,450 --> 00:53:43,170
value that we're giving you from
the research we do from the the

927
00:53:43,170 --> 00:53:44,610
in depth analysis than we'd

928
00:53:44,610 --> 00:53:46,950
like to apparently other people
are using the term value for

929
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:50,520
value. Yeah, that's cool. I
think it's cool. Yeah, I think

930
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,140
we climbed IPO picked up on
this,

931
00:53:52,169 --> 00:53:56,279
I think we can safely say we
coined it. But you know,

932
00:53:56,279 --> 00:53:58,919
whenever you so here's the
here's the crazy thing. So you

933
00:53:58,919 --> 00:54:03,329
have a value for value model.
Yet people are doing this

934
00:54:03,329 --> 00:54:08,429
through a third party company,
who's taking a total of 8% away

935
00:54:08,429 --> 00:54:12,029
from your value for value and
shoving you down into a big

936
00:54:12,029 --> 00:54:15,479
group of people. This is a whole
point is we need to get away

937
00:54:15,479 --> 00:54:19,379
from these networks. I like the
idea you're talking

938
00:54:19,380 --> 00:54:21,480
you're not talking about Pay
Pal, pal. No, no, no, no, I'm

939
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,500
talking about the what's the
Petroni Patreon or whatever it's

940
00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:32,190
called Patrone Patreon. The idea
is right. But again, if people

941
00:54:32,190 --> 00:54:35,820
are working for tips, I hate it
when you say that $1 per episode

942
00:54:35,820 --> 00:54:39,660
really $1 per episode. That's
not value for value that's

943
00:54:40,860 --> 00:54:43,350
that when the episode is longer
than the Star Trek's movie,

944
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,770
well, we're filled with better
content. How about that?

945
00:54:47,940 --> 00:54:50,460
Yeah, you actually learned
something? Yeah. It's like going

946
00:54:50,460 --> 00:54:51,330
to a seminar,

947
00:54:51,810 --> 00:54:52,560
a webinar

948
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,110
webinar. This is our webinar.
Yes, it's worth more than $1

949
00:54:58,530 --> 00:55:00,750
Well, let's thank a few people
who know us worth more than $1

950
00:55:00,750 --> 00:55:04,050
and actually gave us more than
$1, our executive and Associate

951
00:55:04,050 --> 00:55:07,740
Executive Producers beginning
with Sir Rick Bressler in

952
00:55:07,770 --> 00:55:13,980
Arlington, Washington who came
in with 34543. And he did that

953
00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:17,010
because he's making his he said
I could be a Baronet, but I

954
00:55:17,010 --> 00:55:21,510
think I'm going to give my wife
Becky a knighthood. And he sent

955
00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:24,840
a note in a read by my
accounting and he talks about

956
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,600
his accounting he's reached a
second night and my wife has

957
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,950
been a little jealous of my
night ring. And he did seal the

958
00:55:31,950 --> 00:55:37,140
envelope with duacs Nice so
instead of changing my status

959
00:55:37,140 --> 00:55:42,510
the Baronet I'll take a chance
on getting lucky tonight and ask

960
00:55:42,510 --> 00:55:47,010
you to bestow Dame hood on Dame
Becky with all the rights and

961
00:55:47,010 --> 00:55:47,670
privileges

962
00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:51,390
thereof now she made choose for
rent boys and Chardonnay tonight

963
00:55:51,390 --> 00:55:53,340
so I'm not sure you know, I
don't think

964
00:55:53,340 --> 00:55:56,820
so. If you listen to this, oh,
he said and I don't know if I

965
00:55:56,820 --> 00:56:00,690
should even read this, but I'll
do it anyway. I'd rather have my

966
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:04,440
testicles nibbled off. Oh no,
I'm sorry. This is different

967
00:56:05,310 --> 00:56:08,580
than what I thought said he read
a half nipple off by enraged

968
00:56:08,580 --> 00:56:13,050
fire ants then use Pay Pal. So
donations have taken the form of

969
00:56:13,050 --> 00:56:19,740
checks direct bank transfer,
which he did back in I guess it

970
00:56:19,740 --> 00:56:22,350
was last year and we I don't
know we ever credited him for

971
00:56:22,350 --> 00:56:25,530
that anyway, because I people
have to tell us when they get

972
00:56:25,530 --> 00:56:28,680
the bank transfer because they
there's no they don't send me a

973
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:33,180
memo. Anyway digitally donation
6969 may be a bit more work for

974
00:56:33,180 --> 00:56:37,200
you than taking credit cards
online and not not too much more

975
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,910
work. But at least pay pal
doesn't steal the money. I will

976
00:56:41,910 --> 00:56:47,310
follow up on during said no
agenda nation did slash rings.

977
00:56:47,730 --> 00:56:48,480
For the reason,

978
00:56:48,660 --> 00:56:51,690
by the way. I mean, a lot of
people are always complaining

979
00:56:51,690 --> 00:56:54,960
about Pay Pal being in the
middle and yeah, you know, they

980
00:56:54,990 --> 00:56:58,470
they take they take a percentage
like a credit card does. Yeah,

981
00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:02,670
we're okay with that. You know,
they they provide a service, you

982
00:57:02,670 --> 00:57:05,940
know, record record, they do
record good record keeping.

983
00:57:05,970 --> 00:57:10,800
Yeah, you know, some people fuck
Pay Pal. Yeah. You know, if you

984
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,680
can do checks, great. We also
accept checks from Canada.

985
00:57:14,550 --> 00:57:15,060
People always

986
00:57:15,689 --> 00:57:18,029
will accept checks from
anywhere, anywhere, you can take

987
00:57:18,029 --> 00:57:20,789
a foreign currency check and
take it over to the bank bank

988
00:57:20,789 --> 00:57:23,849
mechanics bank in this case, and
you send it through what's

989
00:57:23,849 --> 00:57:27,149
called collections. So like a
collection agencies just called

990
00:57:27,149 --> 00:57:31,589
collections and the bank takes
the check. And then they go

991
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:35,339
through some rigamarole it takes
about two weeks. But the money

992
00:57:35,339 --> 00:57:38,849
eventually shows up in the
account. After you know, they

993
00:57:38,849 --> 00:57:41,939
get the Senate to foreign
currency exchange and all the

994
00:57:41,939 --> 00:57:46,349
rest but it's called clay so you
could send us a check from Hong

995
00:57:46,349 --> 00:57:51,569
Kong dollars, and it will be and
they don't take a big chunk of

996
00:57:51,569 --> 00:57:53,999
this. There's just you know,
it's a couple of points. You

997
00:57:53,999 --> 00:57:54,089
know

998
00:57:54,090 --> 00:57:56,460
what they are in business and
what they don't do our bank is

999
00:57:56,460 --> 00:57:59,640
wire transfers they get they get
like a haemorrhage if you ask

1000
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:00,270
him for that.

1001
00:58:01,350 --> 00:58:02,730
If you want to do one know an

1002
00:58:02,730 --> 00:58:06,150
incoming wire transfer, we get
quite a few. They try. I think

1003
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:08,130
they charge us a lot for that.
John, you wanna you want to

1004
00:58:08,130 --> 00:58:09,270
look? It's very

1005
00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:12,330
expensive. Yeah, it's not worth
it for anything under $500.

1006
00:58:12,330 --> 00:58:16,770
Exactly. Yeah, there are
apparently some banks that have

1007
00:58:16,830 --> 00:58:20,580
almost no fees for wire
transfers. But our bank for

1008
00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:26,010
whatever reason we have our kept
theories don't like doing them.

1009
00:58:26,070 --> 00:58:26,820
They do them know.

1010
00:58:27,330 --> 00:58:30,360
Hey, they like dealing in cash.
What can I tell you the cash,

1011
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,750
business cash business we'd like
to get the checks is lovely.

1012
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,430
We also want to help anyway,
Rick will be the executive

1013
00:58:38,430 --> 00:58:42,840
producer along with Shane O'Hare
from West Scylla Alaska. You

1014
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:47,910
know where that is? It's right
there by Russia. Yeah, ha ha ha

1015
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:52,410
my 333 33 in the morning, John
and Adam. I was listening to the

1016
00:58:52,410 --> 00:58:54,360
exceptional Sunday show and
suddenly the lights in my

1017
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,850
bedroom went out I went down to
the breaker box and saw that

1018
00:58:56,850 --> 00:59:02,970
fuse number 33 had been flipped
I knew this was a sign I had to

1019
00:59:02,970 --> 00:59:06,960
donate your live analysis of the
bad heroin was next level and

1020
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:12,450
hearing John say bitch say was
bitch. This is like lame. Okay.

1021
00:59:13,530 --> 00:59:17,790
made me laugh. I didn't really
laugh. I should be about halfway

1022
00:59:17,790 --> 00:59:20,430
to a knighthood now and when I
finally hit it, I requested the

1023
00:59:20,430 --> 00:59:24,810
night watcher of Russia. Ah, all
right, I can easily keep an eye

1024
00:59:24,810 --> 00:59:28,740
out from it. Hi out on it from
my house here, the night watcher

1025
00:59:28,740 --> 00:59:32,550
of Russia. All right. And whilst
Scylla if possible, I'd like to

1026
00:59:32,550 --> 00:59:36,000
give a plug for the site I wrote
for, or a write for group geek

1027
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,630
scape.net It's all about movies,
video games, comics and more. We

1028
00:59:39,630 --> 00:59:43,470
are truly an independent group
of nerds. So we have our first

1029
00:59:43,470 --> 00:59:47,220
movie premiering at South by
Southwest that means Adam has to

1030
00:59:47,220 --> 00:59:48,150
go see this movie.

1031
00:59:48,210 --> 00:59:51,720
Oh, give me a pass for doc of
the dead dock of the dead

1032
00:59:51,810 --> 00:59:55,560
nice all about rabid fans of
zombies and features interviews

1033
00:59:55,560 --> 01:00:00,330
with legends from genre, such as
George Romero and Simon pay Big

1034
01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:05,970
also shout out to rice cook AMI
and mega Buzz 64 Mega 64 Boys

1035
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:09,210
thank you guys for doing the
show week after week it helps me

1036
01:00:09,210 --> 01:00:12,090
stay sane I constantly hitting
people in the mouth can I get a

1037
01:00:12,090 --> 01:00:13,530
mac and cheese karma shots?

1038
01:00:13,590 --> 01:00:14,490
Absolutely.

1039
01:00:15,210 --> 01:00:18,330
Your slaves can get used to mac
and cheese mac and cheese

1040
01:00:19,050 --> 01:00:23,430
macaroni and cheese shattered
melted together mac and cheese

1041
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:32,580
mac and cheese mac and cheese.
Karma anyway on words, and then

1042
01:00:32,580 --> 01:00:35,400
we go to our social executive
producers I'm gonna have to look

1043
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,850
up John, I think he has a note
Lucy if you find STARCO of Surco

1044
01:00:38,850 --> 01:00:43,830
send in an email. Nicholas amid
Shelley in Albany, New York.

1045
01:00:43,830 --> 01:00:48,360
$271.82 Hi, John and Adam.
Here's a donation modelled after

1046
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,200
another magic number out there
two, seven 1.82.

1047
01:00:52,530 --> 01:00:53,790
I have nothing from Surco

1048
01:00:54,900 --> 01:01:00,030
22 71.82. I want you to look
that number. I'm in electric.

1049
01:01:00,330 --> 01:01:03,720
What am i You're my education
and say you're stepping on me. I

1050
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,350
value my education immensely,
both from school and the best

1051
01:01:07,350 --> 01:01:11,160
podcast in the universe. He
wants some karma to all

1052
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:17,670
listeners and people with
purpose. Cheers. You've got

1053
01:01:17,820 --> 01:01:22,950
karma? Yeah, that's from STARCO.
Oh, am

1054
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:25,530
I allowed to talk? I'm sorry. I
didn't want to step down. You're

1055
01:01:25,530 --> 01:01:29,010
stepping on me. Well, you're
giving me commands like find

1056
01:01:29,010 --> 01:01:35,790
this note. Number circle. Look.
Do a handstand dance Monkey Boy

1057
01:01:35,850 --> 01:01:38,940
dance monkey boy. There's
nothing from STARCO I have

1058
01:01:38,940 --> 01:01:43,800
nothing for STARCO I got nothing
either. Sometimes. Okay. Well,

1059
01:01:43,860 --> 01:01:48,330
you will thank you, Dennis.
STARCO to under 50 bucks from

1060
01:01:48,330 --> 01:01:51,510
Seaside Park, New Jersey.
Benjamin.

1061
01:01:53,490 --> 01:01:55,590
We've done this before. Yeah, I

1062
01:01:55,590 --> 01:02:01,320
know. I know. I know. And I can
do it for Muay.

1063
01:02:04,860 --> 01:02:05,670
vinoy.

1064
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,270
Or more me, that's what I meant.
Yeah,

1065
01:02:09,300 --> 01:02:10,440
I'm pretty, pretty close.

1066
01:02:10,650 --> 01:02:17,670
Benjamin Verne. Fermoy. In
mepple, correct. Doing it $35.

1067
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:20,430
He's in Holland and his mepple
as you can. I think you can

1068
01:02:20,430 --> 01:02:23,340
figure that out. Requesting a
shot at karma from my brother,

1069
01:02:23,790 --> 01:02:27,180
sir Adrian who got me listening
to the best podcast in the

1070
01:02:27,180 --> 01:02:29,910
universe. And then he's
propagating the formula that we

1071
01:02:29,910 --> 01:02:32,610
needed to Adrian on the previous
episodes, so it stays in the

1072
01:02:32,610 --> 01:02:36,540
family. That's beautiful. You've
got karma karma. Thank you,

1073
01:02:36,630 --> 01:02:37,140
gentlemen.

1074
01:02:37,650 --> 01:02:42,660
Eric Brown to 1212 and Felton
California. He needs a fuck

1075
01:02:42,660 --> 01:02:45,360
cancer for his wonderful mother
in law and a birthday shout out

1076
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,720
for my twins. We have them on
the list. Namie and Noah who

1077
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,680
turned six Moreover, thanks for
the analysis and entertainment

1078
01:02:56,700 --> 01:03:03,780
karma Yes. And we'll Wilmington
Delaware. 208.

1079
01:03:04,140 --> 01:03:07,830
I think he wants to pronounce
gays I believe gays I think

1080
01:03:07,830 --> 01:03:11,760
sorry gag GA ze but guys, gays.
I think it's gays.

1081
01:03:12,150 --> 01:03:17,310
Okay, I'll never get that. Yeah,
I'll try. But you can correct

1082
01:03:17,310 --> 01:03:23,040
me. This. This will finish off
by knighthood 208 For my

1083
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:27,180
birthday, but to wait for my
birthday February 8. Okay. I

1084
01:03:27,180 --> 01:03:30,960
can't thank the best podcast in
the universe enough for helping

1085
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,930
me pass the hours travelling for
work and more importantly,

1086
01:03:33,930 --> 01:03:38,100
getting me to avoid those body
scanners. Can I get an F cancer

1087
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:41,400
another one and karma shot for
those fighting their battle with

1088
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,240
cancer especially the heroes of
the be positive foundation?

1089
01:03:45,540 --> 01:03:53,040
Yeah, absolutely. Like
andrew.org. Karma

1090
01:03:53,069 --> 01:03:53,909
no problem.

1091
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,780
Barry Kroger in Greeley,
Colorado. $200. He wants karma

1092
01:04:00,780 --> 01:04:01,590
for the family.

1093
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,080
A lot of karma torquest today.

1094
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,510
And finally our last Associate
Executive Producer. We have

1095
01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:13,650
seven today which is a good
deal. Michael Miller in Tiburon,

1096
01:04:13,650 --> 01:04:17,520
California. Hey, Michael. I can
wave to him from here. He wants

1097
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,340
a project completion rollout
karma.

1098
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:26,160
Sure. I hope it gets done.
You've got finished. I don't

1099
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,620
know if it's if it's finished if
he wants it to be finished.

1100
01:04:29,910 --> 01:04:31,950
When we're done with this little
segment, I want to play the

1101
01:04:31,950 --> 01:04:36,420
cancer spike clip because yeah,
there's this there's something

1102
01:04:36,420 --> 01:04:40,020
weird going on and I want to
discuss that. I do have a I will

1103
01:04:40,020 --> 01:04:45,960
take a crack pot. We'll take a
crack pot position here which I

1104
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:46,920
normally don't do.

1105
01:04:47,370 --> 01:04:50,910
But I'd like to thank you
everyone who weighed in today

1106
01:04:50,910 --> 01:04:54,180
with their financial resources
for this programme. You are

1107
01:04:54,180 --> 01:04:57,450
hereby credited with either an
executive producer or Associate

1108
01:04:57,450 --> 01:05:00,900
Executive Producer. What are you
clicking for? This past couple

1109
01:05:00,900 --> 01:05:02,490
episodes, you're clicking
something

1110
01:05:02,790 --> 01:05:05,370
I have. I'll tell you after the
show,

1111
01:05:05,940 --> 01:05:07,290
could you just stop it then?

1112
01:05:08,130 --> 01:05:12,420
If when it makes that noises, I
can't, you can't help you. It's

1113
01:05:12,420 --> 01:05:13,290
unpredictable.

1114
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:21,120
Okay, so thank you, everybody.
Get your executive producer,

1115
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,660
Associate Executive Producer.
Credit. These are real credits,

1116
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,630
unlike the douchebags in
Hollywood will vouch for him if

1117
01:05:27,630 --> 01:05:29,610
anyone wants to know if this is
you know, if you're looking for

1118
01:05:29,610 --> 01:05:33,270
a new gig, particularly media
related where you can vote talk

1119
01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:35,310
to him, no problem, we'll tell
him exactly how valuable your

1120
01:05:35,310 --> 01:05:39,330
contribution was not just the
monetary version either. And

1121
01:05:39,330 --> 01:05:42,810
please go to the following
website to help us out for our

1122
01:05:42,810 --> 01:05:46,980
Sunday show. Sunday's had been
very bad support wise over the

1123
01:05:46,980 --> 01:05:51,780
past couple of weeks. So please
help us out at full rack.org/and

1124
01:05:51,870 --> 01:05:56,910
A two quick PR mentions, I want
to thank the anonymous donor who

1125
01:05:56,910 --> 01:06:02,430
gave us four words on
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1126
01:06:04,020 --> 01:06:07,230
Okay, that was 6969 dudes.

1127
01:06:07,290 --> 01:06:13,230
Yeah. 6969 dudes.com. Okay, I
get it. But maybe even better.

1128
01:06:13,590 --> 01:06:18,420
After we played that clip from
the douchebag of Unilever at

1129
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:24,030
Davos, Paul Ballard in says,
Good gentlemen, thank you for

1130
01:06:24,030 --> 01:06:26,820
your courage that you may like
to see the following website,

1131
01:06:26,820 --> 01:06:30,030
which has was discussed
discussed in Episode 586. Now

1132
01:06:30,030 --> 01:06:37,140
forwarding to the no agenda.
show.com future awesome.org Wow,

1133
01:06:37,170 --> 01:06:40,950
yeah, that's it like that name?
Yeah, future. awesome.org That

1134
01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:44,490
is who we are. It's what we're
all about. And please,

1135
01:06:44,490 --> 01:06:48,060
yeah, especially you What do you
mean, you can't from the future?

1136
01:06:48,270 --> 01:06:48,840
There you go.

1137
01:06:49,350 --> 01:06:52,230
Thank you all everybody and
continue to go out and propagate

1138
01:06:52,230 --> 01:06:57,330
the formula. Our formula is
this. We go out for yet people

1139
01:06:57,330 --> 01:06:57,810
in the mouth

1140
01:07:15,630 --> 01:07:16,440
all right, cancer.

1141
01:07:17,490 --> 01:07:20,310
Oh, yeah, this is interesting
because it because we notice a

1142
01:07:20,310 --> 01:07:24,930
lot of these deaf cancer call
outs in our show. And just play

1143
01:07:24,930 --> 01:07:27,900
this clip and give this a listen
to

1144
01:07:29,370 --> 01:07:33,030
a stark warning from the World
Health Organisation cancer rates

1145
01:07:33,030 --> 01:07:35,910
are set to soar over the next
two decades,

1146
01:07:36,180 --> 01:07:39,450
we're seeing a very rapid
increase in the numbers of

1147
01:07:39,450 --> 01:07:43,050
cancers worldwide, but
particularly in the low and

1148
01:07:43,050 --> 01:07:44,280
middle income countries.

1149
01:07:44,790 --> 01:07:48,600
The factors were living longer,
were more obese and drinking to

1150
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:49,290
excess,

1151
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,650
there are things that people can
do. And in particular, what we

1152
01:07:52,650 --> 01:07:56,670
want is to get out a message out
there that you can prevent

1153
01:07:56,850 --> 01:07:57,420
cancer.

1154
01:07:59,460 --> 01:08:01,470
Okay, your thoughts? Mr. Devore.

1155
01:08:01,500 --> 01:08:04,080
It was a special eight. You
know, this is a this is

1156
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,030
something you should be talking
about. I don't know why I'm

1157
01:08:06,030 --> 01:08:09,450
doing it. But there was a
special on free speech TV, it

1158
01:08:09,450 --> 01:08:13,380
was a documentary about
electromagnetic issues, and

1159
01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:18,210
cancer increase in cancers. And
they went from one repressed

1160
01:08:18,210 --> 01:08:23,250
report to another that weren't
funded by the telecommunications

1161
01:08:23,250 --> 01:08:27,480
business, which clearly show
that overuse of the cell phones

1162
01:08:27,480 --> 01:08:31,200
and Wi Fi all over the place is
causing problems and they think

1163
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,360
it may be interfering with sleep
patterns.

1164
01:08:34,229 --> 01:08:36,959
I don't see why this would have
to be so cracked potty I think

1165
01:08:36,959 --> 01:08:42,059
this is in fact for GE
specifically has been mentioned

1166
01:08:42,059 --> 01:08:46,379
as a as a huge culprit and
instigator of cancers but I also

1167
01:08:46,379 --> 01:08:48,449
have to say just look at what
people were putting in their

1168
01:08:48,449 --> 01:08:51,269
faces you know, the people are
not living healthy and they said

1169
01:08:51,269 --> 01:08:55,169
the low to middle income
countries which were essentially

1170
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:58,109
are you know, we're what are we
pushing there? Coca Cola and

1171
01:08:58,109 --> 01:09:05,009
hamburgers. Now we're sending
kale to Africa. I mean,

1172
01:09:05,070 --> 01:09:08,790
I heard that. Yeah, that's where
it belongs.

1173
01:09:09,059 --> 01:09:14,819
Yes, I agree. And all the kale
to Africa. I agree.

1174
01:09:15,090 --> 01:09:17,880
I have collected kale recipes
now and remind people to go to

1175
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,300
the or send an email to
john@divorce.org with its

1176
01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:26,550
subject line kale, and submit
your original and pass down

1177
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:27,150
recipes.

1178
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,850
Of course, I did see this
report. The World War Two, the

1179
01:09:32,850 --> 01:09:35,910
World Health Organisation,
actually the headline of that

1180
01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:39,930
report says, you know cancers to
double by 2030 which was you

1181
01:09:39,930 --> 01:09:42,690
know, of course I love that so
that's going on the the

1182
01:09:42,690 --> 01:09:45,000
2030 club.com website.

1183
01:09:45,809 --> 01:09:47,339
I think we stumbled onto
something.

1184
01:09:47,670 --> 01:09:50,760
Well, you know, whenever people
show up with jingles

1185
01:09:56,700 --> 01:09:59,970
then you know, we're onto
something. It's the triangle

1186
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,600
Sound is perfect. It's the 2030
Omni apocalypse, which I think

1187
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,720
is good because it's like an
omnibus bill. It's an apocalypse

1188
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:11,700
is going to be everything.
Cancer. We should just have the

1189
01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:15,450
segment, the 2030 Omni pocket.
Thank you, John Fletcher by the

1190
01:10:15,450 --> 01:10:20,910
way. For customer on the POC
illogical list, I think it's low

1191
01:10:20,940 --> 01:10:25,980
M NIPOCLY. PSC

1192
01:10:26,970 --> 01:10:29,370
shouldn't be c y L y.

1193
01:10:29,790 --> 01:10:31,350
You're asking the Dutch guy.

1194
01:10:32,430 --> 01:10:42,750
I'll figure it out as possible.
30 We, that's good. That's the

1195
01:10:42,750 --> 01:10:47,430
start. It's like metal, you
can't understand a word of it.

1196
01:10:47,610 --> 01:10:51,270
You put it in the in the
newsletter, which was good. You

1197
01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:54,360
put the 2030 we have a link now
on the donation page for

1198
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:55,710
23rd $20.30

1199
01:10:55,710 --> 01:10:59,310
cent donation. Very good. You
become a member of the end of

1200
01:10:59,310 --> 01:11:00,180
the world club.

1201
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:05,070
And I was very surprised that
you put kittens back in the

1202
01:11:05,070 --> 01:11:06,510
newsletter instead of puppies.

1203
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:12,240
I saw that kitten pic. If you
think about that way that letter

1204
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:16,590
was formatted. First I told that
we were told the or producers

1205
01:11:16,590 --> 01:11:20,880
that we didn't get much in the
way of support on the Sunday

1206
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:25,500
show. And so I had a kitten
looking for Lauren Lee at an

1207
01:11:25,500 --> 01:11:26,490
empty bowl.

1208
01:11:27,570 --> 01:11:31,470
I was surprised mainly because
the Super Bowl actually had

1209
01:11:31,470 --> 01:11:32,610
switched the puppies.

1210
01:11:34,170 --> 01:11:36,810
No, they always had the puppy
bowl. They never had a Kitten

1211
01:11:36,810 --> 01:11:37,200
Bowl.

1212
01:11:37,770 --> 01:11:40,170
Oh, I well. Maybe that's I'm
just talking about the the

1213
01:11:40,170 --> 01:11:43,830
commercials I saw Budweiser with
puppies. Puppies, puppies

1214
01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:44,520
everywhere.

1215
01:11:45,330 --> 01:11:48,990
Yeah, yeah, it was puppy puppy
week. That may be when they have

1216
01:11:48,990 --> 01:11:51,540
puppies and one team wins and
has kittens in the game. The

1217
01:11:51,540 --> 01:11:54,750
other could be now I'm gonna
look into it. And by the

1218
01:11:54,750 --> 01:11:59,400
way, how you you've mentioned
this many times because you

1219
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,190
watch games. I watched one game
a year. And that's

1220
01:12:02,519 --> 01:12:05,879
probably the best game to watch.
Although this was not if you

1221
01:12:05,879 --> 01:12:08,549
want a real football game. It
was fun game to watch

1222
01:12:08,580 --> 01:12:14,910
the militarism Bala turistic.
Net. I mean, Bruno Mars, halfway

1223
01:12:14,910 --> 01:12:17,910
through his song than the
cutting away to people in

1224
01:12:17,910 --> 01:12:25,620
Afghanistan and hey, I can't
wait to come home and now and I

1225
01:12:25,620 --> 01:12:29,310
am the I spent four hours with
Sergeant Fred here in Austin

1226
01:12:29,310 --> 01:12:32,550
yesterday. Just Just every
couple months, I wanna sit down

1227
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:35,790
with Sergeant Fred Vietnam
veteran 82nd airborne. He's a

1228
01:12:35,790 --> 01:12:39,420
producer of the show me these
guys got stories, you know, he's

1229
01:12:39,420 --> 01:12:42,510
got stuff to talk about. And I
just think how and even he's

1230
01:12:42,510 --> 01:12:45,060
like, What the hell is so
disgusting? How does the

1231
01:12:45,060 --> 01:12:49,470
militarization and Budweiser a
Belgian company, pretend they're

1232
01:12:49,470 --> 01:12:54,750
all patriotic? And let's bring
home the hero? Yeah, sure. But a

1233
01:12:54,750 --> 01:13:00,240
hero of what? Of what kind of
war and everyone's just all in?

1234
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:05,310
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Troops. This
troops that. It's it's so wrong.

1235
01:13:05,310 --> 01:13:08,670
We're so militaristic. It's
frightening.

1236
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:13,230
I noticed this. You see it in
college games, too. Oh, they

1237
01:13:13,230 --> 01:13:17,460
have the flyovers. They have the
military band comes out. Yeah.

1238
01:13:17,550 --> 01:13:21,090
And they have the I was at a Cal
game a few years ago where they

1239
01:13:21,090 --> 01:13:25,320
actually had a bunch of people
product. During halftime they

1240
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:29,640
brought these guys out in the
middle of the of the game, I

1241
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,850
swear. And they they they
enlisted them but this it

1242
01:13:32,850 --> 01:13:38,760
has to be a combo of the mind
numbing Enos of what people who

1243
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,460
watch I mean people who really
watch football, if that's what

1244
01:13:41,460 --> 01:13:43,380
they do. I mean, you watch you
know, your interest in the game

1245
01:13:43,380 --> 01:13:45,570
statistics. You got some money
on it, whatever you're doing,

1246
01:13:45,690 --> 01:13:49,470
but you're not hypnotised and
only into my team. This you're

1247
01:13:49,470 --> 01:13:53,640
not doing fantasy football on
Yahoo. And this is it's a

1248
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,060
militaristic thing and it's
being inter woven and it can't

1249
01:13:57,060 --> 01:14:00,300
be healthy. It just can't be It
can't be.

1250
01:14:00,990 --> 01:14:02,910
I'm thinking Facebook is the

1251
01:14:02,940 --> 01:14:07,980
is the instigator of all this.
And then the guy who's the most

1252
01:14:07,980 --> 01:14:11,880
patriotic, the number one
patriotic commercial Bob Dylan,

1253
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:16,740
everyone this yelling at him,
where he actually said, yeah,

1254
01:14:16,740 --> 01:14:20,550
we'll make your cars which used
to be a very normal thing every

1255
01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:24,780
people would be proud to drive
American. And here's Bob Dylan

1256
01:14:24,810 --> 01:14:29,610
got God bless him making some
money like and I can't believe

1257
01:14:29,610 --> 01:14:36,240
he's such a sellout set up as a
mich que por on Twitter. 100 400

1258
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:41,820
millionaire Mitch que por Oh,
Everything's ruined. Sell out.

1259
01:14:42,450 --> 01:14:47,970
It was a great commercial. It
was incredibly patriotic. And

1260
01:14:48,030 --> 01:14:51,660
everyone's just all over Bob
Dylan's when when's the last

1261
01:14:51,660 --> 01:14:54,420
time you bought a Bob Dylan
record Mitch K poor and sent Bob

1262
01:14:54,420 --> 01:14:58,770
Dylan some money? Yeah, tour. I
can't believe

1263
01:14:59,370 --> 01:15:02,700
you're outta here. Have them
starve let them starve so this

1264
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:03,240
okay so

1265
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,910
when I'm out and about and when
Miss McCain i We noticed this

1266
01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:08,790
and you notice this to John you
know you're you're like 61 or

1267
01:15:08,790 --> 01:15:17,730
whatever you are 6246 Hey i i Go
out and I I interact with people

1268
01:15:17,730 --> 01:15:21,360
who are 10 years younger than we
are and they don't look healthy

1269
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:29,610
they look stressed and tired and
distracted easily beat and and

1270
01:15:29,610 --> 01:15:32,760
so I'm joking about Facebook but
it has to be a combination of

1271
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,670
the bull crap that people are
being fed and you're supposed to

1272
01:15:35,670 --> 01:15:40,380
believe to them toothpaste is
going to explode.

1273
01:15:40,860 --> 01:15:45,510
Okay, let's see I have the
toothpaste report here. We both

1274
01:15:45,510 --> 01:15:48,450
are on this right away. This
seemed to be like a package for

1275
01:15:48,450 --> 01:15:51,390
some reason I'm not sure what it
is is definitely a slamming

1276
01:15:51,390 --> 01:15:54,930
Delta. But there's something
going on to play the toothpaste

1277
01:15:54,930 --> 01:15:55,740
report where is it?

1278
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,740
I don't see it. That's why it's
funny because oh, here it is.

1279
01:15:59,490 --> 01:16:02,940
It's titled l QA Dist. Alright,
got it

1280
01:16:02,970 --> 01:16:06,540
warning about terrorism. Just as
the Winter Olympics are about to

1281
01:16:06,540 --> 01:16:09,900
begin it involves of all things
tubes of toothpaste and the

1282
01:16:09,900 --> 01:16:13,440
Sochi Games that start on
Friday. QHPs Patty Lee is live

1283
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:16,920
now at SFO she learned it has no
direct flights to Russia so

1284
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:21,420
petty given that our passengers
reacting well, they are still

1285
01:16:23,220 --> 01:16:27,990
stuck. This is the way the
report goes. So Adam, there's

1286
01:16:27,990 --> 01:16:30,960
absolutely nothing about this
story that has anything to do

1287
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,780
with where you are. So how is
everyone reacting?

1288
01:16:34,290 --> 01:16:37,980
People are really frightened
right now. They it's gotten so

1289
01:16:37,980 --> 01:16:41,400
bad that they are now reverting
back to baking soda and water

1290
01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:42,450
back to you broth.

1291
01:16:43,350 --> 01:16:47,040
Okay. I just thought this was
the lead in was just like for

1292
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,890
one thing, so it's nonstory. Why
are we playing this but okay,

1293
01:16:49,890 --> 01:16:52,500
parallel worlds that you got to
play? Okay, well, first,

1294
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:59,070
let's be honest, the crazy to
toilet to toilet commodes, the

1295
01:16:59,070 --> 01:17:03,360
horrible hotel rooms for the
journalist? That story was

1296
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:08,190
getting a little old. Yeah, like
okay, this is much better

1297
01:17:08,220 --> 01:17:12,600
because explosive materials are
hidden inside travel size tubes

1298
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:13,320
of toothpaste,

1299
01:17:13,350 --> 01:17:15,870
travel size tubes. This is even
better

1300
01:17:16,110 --> 01:17:18,900
in any toothpaste on the plane.
No, no,

1301
01:17:18,900 --> 01:17:21,900
no, but even travel and so this
little tube

1302
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,290
illiquidity thing Yeah, take
much for a determined terrorists

1303
01:17:25,410 --> 01:17:29,610
to sneak them onboard.
toothpaste tubes could be used

1304
01:17:29,610 --> 01:17:33,360
to smuggle bombs onto planes.
That warning came from Homeland

1305
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,080
Security today. And just for
airlines flying direct to Russia

1306
01:17:37,260 --> 01:17:40,800
ahead of the Winter Olympics in
Sochi is the type of venue where

1307
01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:45,000
you know terrorists kind of
gravitate to it. I'm Rick Smith

1308
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:48,840
is a former FBI agent and head
of security firm Cannon Street.

1309
01:17:49,050 --> 01:17:52,110
He worries about the safety of
the Winter Games, which

1310
01:17:52,110 --> 01:17:56,190
terrorists have already promised
to disrupt recently unleashing

1311
01:17:56,190 --> 01:17:58,920
suicide bombers in other Russian
cities.

1312
01:18:00,300 --> 01:18:04,620
I'm sorry. They recently
unleashed the suicide the

1313
01:18:04,620 --> 01:18:10,500
terrorists unleashed the suicide
bombers. Yeah. Wow. No. Wonder

1314
01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:12,150
people look so shit.

1315
01:18:12,570 --> 01:18:15,780
Demise by all this stuff.
Homeland Security's warning was

1316
01:18:15,780 --> 01:18:19,530
directed towards us carriers,
namely Delta Airlines.

1317
01:18:19,559 --> 01:18:25,439
And by the way, I went
immediately to www.dhs.gov Not a

1318
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,319
single warning, not a single
press release, no news

1319
01:18:28,319 --> 01:18:32,519
information. Nothing about this
whatsoever. No official from

1320
01:18:32,519 --> 01:18:36,989
Department of Homeland Security
was ever on. There's no document

1321
01:18:37,019 --> 01:18:38,759
that's being pointed to which
runs

1322
01:18:38,790 --> 01:18:40,710
a direct flight out of New York.

1323
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,190
I believe the games will be
safe. But we're in a very

1324
01:18:44,190 --> 01:18:47,430
different setting in Sochi than
we were in Salt Lake City. Sochi

1325
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:49,050
is a very dangerous
neighbourhood.

1326
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:51,960
Mitt Romney today called for
more information about this

1327
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,680
specific intelligence to help
the TSA airlines and passengers

1328
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,250
prepare. But Rick Smith says
it's likely on a need to know

1329
01:18:59,250 --> 01:18:59,850
basis.

1330
01:18:59,910 --> 01:19:03,270
I'd like to think that there's
more specific intelligence on

1331
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:05,970
what they're looking for other
than just a toothpaste to if

1332
01:19:05,970 --> 01:19:09,510
someone could, you know to a
toothpaste and it's like scary.

1333
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:09,990
So

1334
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:15,780
it's like, Oh, I like something
scary. Yeah. So safe at all.

1335
01:19:17,730 --> 01:19:21,360
SFO had little to say about this
terrorist warning and only that

1336
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,720
it didn't have any information
to share. So here at SFO and

1337
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,960
airports across the world ahead
of the Olympics, there's a lot

1338
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,990
of trepidation preparation and
hoping for the best

1339
01:19:31,230 --> 01:19:35,340
you know, when I see this stuff,
I of course, this is bull bull

1340
01:19:35,340 --> 01:19:43,080
crap. I really, I'm amazed. I'm
just amazed how this propagates

1341
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:47,520
and everybody jumps on board and
how much they just love this. I

1342
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,980
have a couple of clips as well
about the truth, just little

1343
01:19:49,980 --> 01:19:53,490
blurbs and blips and shunning a
lot of buzz that I want to play

1344
01:19:53,490 --> 01:19:56,100
because you have a blip that I
want to hear that for sure he is

1345
01:19:56,100 --> 01:19:57,900
CNN breaking news.

1346
01:19:59,100 --> 01:20:01,830
Break up with me News we're
following word of the possible

1347
01:20:01,830 --> 01:20:04,980
new terror threat. Only hours
before the start of the Winter

1348
01:20:04,980 --> 01:20:08,520
Olympic Games in Sochi, Russia.
The United States is advising

1349
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:12,600
airlines with direct flights to
Russia to be aware of toothpaste

1350
01:20:12,630 --> 01:20:16,950
or cosmetic tubes. That could be
concealing explosive materials.

1351
01:20:16,980 --> 01:20:20,790
So did when the way broth does
it just no one can really top

1352
01:20:20,790 --> 01:20:23,310
the guy because he's so
shameless. Let's say there's

1353
01:20:23,310 --> 01:20:27,510
a toothpaste container of
toothpaste, and it has

1354
01:20:27,510 --> 01:20:30,930
explosives in it. What kind of
damage could that do to a plane?

1355
01:20:31,020 --> 01:20:34,470
And this is just a beautiful
question. It's just what kind of

1356
01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:38,490
Let's hypothetically let's let's
see, what could that do to was

1357
01:20:38,490 --> 01:20:41,220
see for what what do you do to a
plane?

1358
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,640
Well, any any type of explosive
concealed explosive can be

1359
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:46,530
extremely damaging. It could be
this, of

1360
01:20:46,530 --> 01:20:50,310
course is the douchebag beater
cane or king. Oh, yeah, I've got

1361
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:51,210
Peter King a couple

1362
01:20:51,210 --> 01:20:54,030
times. It could be enough to
bring a plane down. Oh, it

1363
01:20:54,030 --> 01:20:58,020
could be Peter King is now an
FAA expert. He's an agent on AV

1364
01:20:58,020 --> 01:21:00,060
it couldn't be enough, you know,
as you know, could be enough to

1365
01:21:00,060 --> 01:21:01,380
bring a plane down.

1366
01:21:01,500 --> 01:21:05,850
And but again, any type of
explosive on a plane is of great

1367
01:21:05,850 --> 01:21:06,870
concern to us. Yes,

1368
01:21:06,900 --> 01:21:07,980
great concern.

1369
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,550
Unless he was you got a mouse in
his pocket, talking about rest

1370
01:21:11,550 --> 01:21:11,640
of

1371
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:15,480
humanity who thinks it's okay to
have an explosive on a plane?

1372
01:21:15,900 --> 01:21:20,280
So, I guess the key question,
are the athletes safe right now

1373
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,850
are the American spectators, the
family members, the fans, all of

1374
01:21:23,850 --> 01:21:26,400
the guests who are going to
Sochi in the next few days? Are

1375
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:27,090
they safe?

1376
01:21:28,710 --> 01:21:30,930
Are they safe? They are
reasonably safe,

1377
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,840
but reasonably safe. But hold
on. I don't want you to get the

1378
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:38,280
wrong idea here. I would not go
myself if I would not go myself

1379
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:41,370
screw those Russians are an
athlete. That's one thing. But

1380
01:21:41,370 --> 01:21:45,150
just as a spectator, I was an
athlete. That's one thing. Oh,

1381
01:21:45,570 --> 01:21:47,220
vote this man out.

1382
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,280
I don't know why this guy gets
reelected.

1383
01:21:50,370 --> 01:21:57,090
This. This is unbelievable. It's
just unbelievable. And then ah,

1384
01:21:57,660 --> 01:22:02,490
and then we have a Bernat, Erin
Burnett. And she needs she got

1385
01:22:02,490 --> 01:22:06,960
Rogers because both Rogers and
Kim Rogers Mike Rogers gather

1386
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,540
douche bag. They were both doing
the rounds. These are the two

1387
01:22:09,540 --> 01:22:15,180
guys who have oversight over all
of our spying and security. I

1388
01:22:15,180 --> 01:22:18,420
don't even know if they do
airport security. But for some

1389
01:22:18,420 --> 01:22:21,300
they're the guys who will talk
and you can call it a drop of a

1390
01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:25,590
half of at the drop of a hat. So
here's a horse. Yes. Here's the

1391
01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:29,130
presstitute with the media
horrid presstitute Bernat about

1392
01:22:29,130 --> 01:22:32,220
a Olympic terror. And there's
all kinds of very interesting

1393
01:22:32,220 --> 01:22:34,530
little memes that crop up here.
evening, everyone.

1394
01:22:34,530 --> 01:22:36,720
I'm Erin Burnett. And we begin
out front tonight with the

1395
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,570
breaking news. A top US
counterterrorism official

1396
01:22:39,570 --> 01:22:43,410
tonight says there are quote
specific threats aimed at the

1397
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:45,600
Olympics, which are just three
days away.

1398
01:22:46,110 --> 01:22:49,950
By the way, no mention who the
top guy was none of that us

1399
01:22:49,950 --> 01:22:53,040
tonight tracking the threats
racing against time to stop any

1400
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,940
terrorist attacks. US warships
and aeroplanes are moving into

1401
01:22:56,940 --> 01:22:57,780
final position.

1402
01:22:57,839 --> 01:23:01,469
Really? Warships, aeroplanes
moving into final position just

1403
01:23:01,469 --> 01:23:03,269
like we had war with Russia.

1404
01:23:03,540 --> 01:23:06,450
They're moving into what final
position? They're on the art

1405
01:23:06,450 --> 01:23:08,370
ships on the Baltic Sea. Yes,

1406
01:23:08,730 --> 01:23:11,670
apparently, according to Erin
Burnett, ready to respond,

1407
01:23:11,730 --> 01:23:12,930
they're ready to respond.

1408
01:23:15,450 --> 01:23:18,720
President Obama was briefed on
the situation today. And his

1409
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,900
team says that they are both
taking all appropriate steps his

1410
01:23:21,900 --> 01:23:26,160
team regarding the safety of
Americans. And joining me now is

1411
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,680
Congressman Mike Rogers, the
chairman of the Intelligence

1412
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:32,580
Committee. Thank you so much for
taking the time. Obviously, the

1413
01:23:32,580 --> 01:23:34,650
director of the National
Counterterrorism Centre at the

1414
01:23:34,650 --> 01:23:37,710
hearing today said I'll quote
him there are a number of

1415
01:23:37,710 --> 01:23:40,860
specific threats when it comes
to terror attacks at the

1416
01:23:40,860 --> 01:23:43,020
Olympics. And so she How worried
are you

1417
01:23:43,050 --> 01:23:46,920
how Oh, this is Oh, you know,
this is the guy to ask, How

1418
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,460
worried are you? I'm gonna say
that probably he can't talk too

1419
01:23:50,460 --> 01:23:52,620
much, you know, because well,

1420
01:23:52,650 --> 01:23:56,160
I think the venue's themselves
will be okay. You know, the

1421
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,070
Russians have done a lot of a
lot of guards, gates and guns.

1422
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:03,030
Ah, here we go. Guards, gates
and guns. This is a new one,

1423
01:24:03,030 --> 01:24:06,000
John, for some reason. This is
like his little thing show

1424
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,840
title. Yeah. And he and he
brings it back in a second piece

1425
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,570
here with Aaron, are you talking
about al Qaeda? I mean, what

1426
01:24:12,570 --> 01:24:15,810
other threats Do you have? What
do you got on open up your book?

1427
01:24:15,810 --> 01:24:17,520
What are the threats? Do you
happen to can you just give me

1428
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:18,270
some names?

1429
01:24:18,630 --> 01:24:23,220
Well, there are al Qaeda and al
Qaeda affiliates. And we believe

1430
01:24:23,220 --> 01:24:28,050
other groups that that fit the
terrorist profile, expressed an

1431
01:24:28,050 --> 01:24:32,790
interest, at least an aspiration
of trying to do something about

1432
01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:39,450
the games. Okay, all of that is
concern and it just kind of ups

1433
01:24:39,450 --> 01:24:43,890
the opportunities for a mistake
to be made if somebody just

1434
01:24:43,890 --> 01:24:48,000
slipped through you know, one of
the cracks in fairly robust

1435
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:48,990
guards gates and guns,

1436
01:24:50,010 --> 01:24:53,160
guards gates and gun security
plan to something up with this.

1437
01:24:53,250 --> 01:24:53,700
The best

1438
01:24:53,700 --> 01:24:57,630
security you can have is that it
combined with fully robust inner

1439
01:24:57,630 --> 01:25:01,980
cooperative intelligence Yeah,
Fully robust is missing. Yes,

1440
01:25:01,980 --> 01:25:02,310
fully

1441
01:25:02,310 --> 01:25:04,860
robust inner cooperative
intelligence. That's what we

1442
01:25:04,860 --> 01:25:06,960
need that and that's not a show
title by the way, that's just

1443
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,350
too long. But it doesn't stop
there because you know, we have

1444
01:25:10,350 --> 01:25:14,670
toothpastes and guards, gates
and guns, but apparently we now

1445
01:25:14,670 --> 01:25:16,710
have a cyber FIDE the Black
Widow.

1446
01:25:16,740 --> 01:25:19,800
Black Widows are female suicide
bombers, traditionally, women

1447
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,410
seeking revenge for the death of
their husbands. But that's

1448
01:25:22,410 --> 01:25:25,170
changed. Now. There's a whole
new group of black widows what

1449
01:25:25,170 --> 01:25:29,610
terror experts are telling us
are black widows. 2.0 Okay.

1450
01:25:30,930 --> 01:25:37,800
upgrade it. I'm just speechless
of

1451
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:41,010
borderline Clip of the Day I am
speechless. No, I you know, she

1452
01:25:41,010 --> 01:25:43,710
is just deteriorate. I don't
watch CNN anymore.

1453
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:48,540
I have to be on that you do that
I have it on all the time,

1454
01:25:48,540 --> 01:25:52,230
because that's just where it's
where the nutty stuff comes

1455
01:25:52,230 --> 01:25:55,170
from. Now, of course, that
wasn't enough. You know, we got

1456
01:25:55,170 --> 01:25:56,370
to scare everybody. You're

1457
01:25:56,370 --> 01:25:58,620
probably responsible for half
their ratings

1458
01:25:59,790 --> 01:26:03,270
right now, but I don't do Piers
Morgan anymore, at least and you

1459
01:26:03,270 --> 01:26:08,580
gotta give me that. NBC. And I
picked this up one of my friends

1460
01:26:08,580 --> 01:26:12,600
yesterday. So I totally believe
this guy. What's his name? Russ

1461
01:26:12,630 --> 01:26:16,980
Engle, Ronald? Dog boy,
something

1462
01:26:17,340 --> 01:26:21,540
visitors to Russia can expect to
be hacked. And as Richard Engel

1463
01:26:21,540 --> 01:26:25,500
found out upon his arrival
there, it's not a matter of if.

1464
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:30,420
But when Richard, good evening.
Good evening, Brian. It is not

1465
01:26:30,420 --> 01:26:32,820
just hacking. The State
Department warned that

1466
01:26:32,820 --> 01:26:37,290
travellers should have no
expectation of privacy, even in

1467
01:26:37,290 --> 01:26:40,920
their hotel rooms. And as we
found out you are especially

1468
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,400
exposed as soon as you try and
communicate with anything.

1469
01:26:44,610 --> 01:26:48,960
Now this makes me chuckle.
Because you could just say this

1470
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,290
was for America, we there's no
expectation of privacy here,

1471
01:26:52,290 --> 01:26:52,920
either.

1472
01:26:53,070 --> 01:26:55,320
Yes. I know. The irony of these

1473
01:26:55,320 --> 01:27:02,010
reports, especially not in a
hotel room. And, and so this

1474
01:27:02,010 --> 01:27:05,220
goes on for a little bit, and I
can just see the meeting now.

1475
01:27:05,910 --> 01:27:11,970
Okay, yeah. And I don't watch
sports channels. Because I just

1476
01:27:11,970 --> 01:27:15,840
don't, but I can see like, the
meetings I listen, we read we

1477
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,990
really got to ratchet up this,
this anti Russian thing. But,

1478
01:27:19,290 --> 01:27:21,570
you know, we're getting close to
the games. Now. We got the real

1479
01:27:21,570 --> 01:27:24,840
sports happening. I'm thinking
that we got to do something for

1480
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,180
the sports guys guys don't want
to hear about gays. They're not

1481
01:27:27,180 --> 01:27:29,370
interested in the gay thing.
They just want to hear about

1482
01:27:29,370 --> 01:27:31,950
gays. We can't do that. And they
have Russia hates gays. What are

1483
01:27:31,950 --> 01:27:38,370
we going to do? I know they're
killing dogs. Yeah, that's a

1484
01:27:38,370 --> 01:27:43,740
good one. Everybody loves dogs.
We can't just Oh, yeah. Now, I

1485
01:27:43,740 --> 01:27:50,760
was unaware. That Keith
Olbermann. So he moved to ESPN

1486
01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:52,410
two, I believe, is this correct?

1487
01:27:52,410 --> 01:27:55,620
Back to ESPN. That's where he
started right? After but this

1488
01:27:55,620 --> 01:28:01,290
is after he was on MSNBC. And
then he was on Current TV. And

1489
01:28:01,290 --> 01:28:04,140
then I don't remember what
happened. But then he saw it in

1490
01:28:04,140 --> 01:28:05,700
TV shows up sometimes on what

1491
01:28:05,849 --> 01:28:08,489
Current TV thing was a fiasco
because it was a cheap

1492
01:28:08,489 --> 01:28:10,829
production. He didn't like it.
He just walked off.

1493
01:28:10,860 --> 01:28:14,610
Right? Right. Whatever his
problem was, and he shows up on

1494
01:28:14,610 --> 01:28:18,690
Bill Maher from time to time.
But now we're on ESPN two and

1495
01:28:18,690 --> 01:28:22,440
then our our new night sent me a
link to this clip and I'm just

1496
01:28:22,440 --> 01:28:27,000
going to play it until you say
you can't take it anymore. Have

1497
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,430
you ever seen his show on ESPN
too?

1498
01:28:29,460 --> 01:28:33,150
Oh, yeah, I've seen it a number
of times. What happens is he

1499
01:28:33,180 --> 01:28:33,480
have

1500
01:28:33,480 --> 01:28:36,960
They drugged him? What what has
happened to him?

1501
01:28:37,230 --> 01:28:39,840
Like what are you asking about?
I don't know what you mean.

1502
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:40,620
Well, you tell me

1503
01:28:40,620 --> 01:28:43,560
that this is an if this is
normal for Keith Olbermann, then

1504
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:48,720
okay, this so heat someone said,
dude, here's the memo. We have

1505
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,720
to make people hate Russia
because they're killing dogs.

1506
01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:54,570
So we start tonight at Madison
Square Garden where this our

1507
01:28:54,570 --> 01:28:58,050
preparations are already
underway for the 130/8

1508
01:28:58,050 --> 01:29:01,680
Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show
for 48 hours starting Monday

1509
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:06,420
2845 Dogs will be paraded,
judged picked up so people can

1510
01:29:06,420 --> 01:29:09,750
examine their private parts,
petted, hugged, nuzzled, kissed,

1511
01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:14,670
shampoo dried and set and loved
only this year at exactly the

1512
01:29:14,670 --> 01:29:17,910
same time. 4600 miles away.
They're holding another sporting

1513
01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:20,040
event whose participants
sponsors and viewers are

1514
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:24,240
enabling its organisers to take
dogs and hunt and kill them.

1515
01:29:25,260 --> 01:29:28,770
hunt and kill them reportedly
shoot them with poison darts or

1516
01:29:28,770 --> 01:29:32,610
lead poison meat for them, hunt
and kill them. The Russian

1517
01:29:32,610 --> 01:29:33,660
government promised not to

1518
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,880
hunt I think we get the message
hunt and kill that hunt and kill

1519
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:43,920
them profit, hunt and kill them
for national pride. The other

1520
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,320
event is of course the 2014
Winter Olympics.

1521
01:29:46,349 --> 01:29:50,489
Now is this typical for him on
ESPN two is this disease stick?

1522
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:54,420
Yeah. The smiling dog to my
right is not from the dog show.

1523
01:29:54,630 --> 01:29:57,540
He's from Sochi, Russia. And
he's probably dead now.

1524
01:30:01,079 --> 01:30:05,969
just this is this is only the
beginning, John. This is only

1525
01:30:05,969 --> 01:30:09,539
the beginning. I sat through
this last night I falling on the

1526
01:30:09,539 --> 01:30:09,959
floor.

1527
01:30:10,260 --> 01:30:13,080
So you're missing out on this
grind some great material as I

1528
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:14,430
said earlier in the show.

1529
01:30:15,420 --> 01:30:18,420
Again, he's probably the dog
that over his shoulder is

1530
01:30:18,420 --> 01:30:19,620
probably dazzling. It's

1531
01:30:19,620 --> 01:30:23,430
organised, he's dead, take dogs
and hunt and kill them. He's

1532
01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:26,700
dead. hunt and kill them
reportedly shoot them with

1533
01:30:26,700 --> 01:30:30,150
poison darts in the back of the
doors so far, it's too hot then

1534
01:30:30,150 --> 01:30:33,270
kill them. Though the Russian
government promised not to hunt

1535
01:30:33,270 --> 01:30:37,050
and kill them for profit, hunt
and kill them for national

1536
01:30:37,050 --> 01:30:41,430
pride. The other event is of
course the tried. Weed gets

1537
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:45,240
better 1014 Winter Olympics.
This smiling dog to my right is

1538
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:49,110
not from the dog show. He's from
Sochi, Russia. And he's probably

1539
01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:53,040
dead now. I touched on this last
night the area does have what

1540
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,440
you and I would consider an
enormous number of stray dogs.

1541
01:30:55,620 --> 01:30:57,990
North American journalists have
been tweeting photos of them

1542
01:30:58,170 --> 01:31:00,990
commenting not just on their
unexpected friendliness, but

1543
01:31:00,990 --> 01:31:04,680
also about how many of them look
not like feral da but like

1544
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:05,250
abandoned

1545
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,280
pets. Ah, they're not just in
their pets John, they're not

1546
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:09,480
just feral dogs damn

1547
01:31:09,480 --> 01:31:13,020
rushes. They get a pet dog and
he just kicked,

1548
01:31:13,980 --> 01:31:15,210
hunt and kill them.

1549
01:31:15,690 --> 01:31:18,570
The city of Sochi has a standing
contract with a pest control

1550
01:31:18,570 --> 01:31:23,130
company to kill 300 dogs a
month. More during the Olympics.

1551
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:27,450
Oh, the company is called Basia
services. It is run by an Alexei

1552
01:31:27,450 --> 01:31:30,930
Sorokin. And to horrified
onlookers. He says things like

1553
01:31:31,110 --> 01:31:34,590
let's call things by their real
name. These dogs are biological

1554
01:31:34,590 --> 01:31:38,190
trash. Biological trash,

1555
01:31:38,700 --> 01:31:42,900
the horror of calling dogs
biological trash.

1556
01:31:43,679 --> 01:31:46,409
From the Associated Press
account. Sorokin, quote, said he

1557
01:31:46,409 --> 01:31:48,569
was stunned last week when he
attended a rehearsal for the

1558
01:31:48,569 --> 01:31:51,419
opening ceremony and saw a stray
dog walking in on the

1559
01:31:51,419 --> 01:31:52,019
performers.

1560
01:31:52,050 --> 01:31:54,120
Now listen to this now a lot.
Now listen to this because this

1561
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,090
isn't his night for him. I think
he's in

1562
01:31:57,150 --> 01:32:00,840
a dog ran into the fish stadium.
We took it away. He said, God

1563
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:02,940
forbid something like this
happens at the actual opening

1564
01:32:02,940 --> 01:32:05,430
ceremony. This will be a
disgrace for the whole country.

1565
01:32:05,460 --> 01:32:06,360
I prediction

1566
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:13,050
Redbook put it in opening
ceremony. Dog, dog, dog on the

1567
01:32:13,050 --> 01:32:17,220
field, snipers will not be
great.

1568
01:32:17,250 --> 01:32:20,190
It won't be a sniper. But
there'll be a dog. There'll be

1569
01:32:20,190 --> 01:32:23,280
some the Americans by the way,
our State Department will put

1570
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,130
the dog in their foot, the dog
will bring the sneak the dog on

1571
01:32:26,130 --> 01:32:26,520
the field.

1572
01:32:27,060 --> 01:32:30,480
If only it could be Bo, or since
it's still the White House dog

1573
01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:34,740
out there. I think it'll someone
will either kick the dog. This

1574
01:32:34,740 --> 01:32:38,820
is going to be an international
incident. And by the way, he's

1575
01:32:38,820 --> 01:32:43,410
in the audience of ESPN to do
they really need this kind of of

1576
01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:46,830
indoctrination and propaganda.
Are these people so brain dead

1577
01:32:46,830 --> 01:32:50,100
that they sit there and watch
this guy do this?

1578
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:53,070
And you'd have to ask that
question.

1579
01:32:54,810 --> 01:32:56,070
The irony of his own words

1580
01:32:56,070 --> 01:32:57,690
as well containment of this

1581
01:32:57,690 --> 01:33:00,360
fabulous Sorokin, and
unprecedent Putin.

1582
01:33:00,510 --> 01:33:03,720
And by the way, this whole
thing, this whole this

1583
01:33:03,750 --> 01:33:07,200
controversy that is everywhere
about oh they're killing the

1584
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:12,300
dogs is based on a contract for
to get rid of 300 dogs that are

1585
01:33:12,300 --> 01:33:14,910
running around the stadium and
are annoying. That's what all

1586
01:33:14,910 --> 01:33:16,080
this whole thing is based

1587
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:19,890
on a news event today ignore the
issue, ignore the issue disgrace

1588
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:25,920
who are the biological trash.
Mr. Sorokin also told ABC News

1589
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:29,580
that Sochi has, quote, an
epidemic of rabies. Oh, if that

1590
01:33:29,580 --> 01:33:31,890
is correct, of course, the issue
of dealing with the stray dogs

1591
01:33:31,890 --> 01:33:34,770
is irrelevant, because if Sochi
has a rabies epidemic, the

1592
01:33:34,770 --> 01:33:37,950
spectators and athletes and
journalists need to be evacuated

1593
01:33:37,950 --> 01:33:40,320
from the area immediately and
the weapons must be cancelled

1594
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:40,710
tonight.

1595
01:33:44,820 --> 01:33:47,340
But he's serious, John, do you
think he writes this himself?

1596
01:33:48,510 --> 01:33:51,150
Yeah, he writes most of his own
materials my understanding,

1597
01:33:51,330 --> 01:33:53,490
does he know that this is
comedy?

1598
01:33:54,810 --> 01:33:58,170
Well, he is a comedian in some
way so probably oh my god, I

1599
01:33:58,170 --> 01:34:00,750
think he's serious. dead serious
about this. You want to hear

1600
01:34:00,750 --> 01:34:03,360
more of it? This is gonna get a
big laugh.

1601
01:34:03,390 --> 01:34:06,000
Do you want to hear more? Yeah,
this is great.

1602
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,960
Because if that is true, not
only does Mr. Sorokin kill dogs

1603
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:13,110
with poisoned meat on darts,
instead of capturing them and

1604
01:34:13,110 --> 01:34:16,140
spaying and neutering them, oh,
but he's not even good at it.

1605
01:34:17,370 --> 01:34:20,370
It's maybe because Sorokin and
his other dog killers have

1606
01:34:20,370 --> 01:34:24,240
competition. This is video from
the Boston Globe website. From

1607
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,450
their superb story on all this
by reporter David Filippov. The

1608
01:34:27,450 --> 01:34:31,440
woman is Dr. Vlada probo Terrova
she is a dentist and she and a

1609
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:35,370
few friends have started an ad
hoc Sochi dog rescue mission.

1610
01:34:35,790 --> 01:34:42,120
And by the way, these girls hot,
hot, hot hot girls and they with

1611
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,190
dogs hot girls with dogs

1612
01:34:44,370 --> 01:34:47,490
in this ramshackle kennel near a
swamp there are 14 dogs and

1613
01:34:47,490 --> 01:34:52,680
again, like abandoned pets,
again offspring abandoned rover

1614
01:34:53,010 --> 01:34:55,050
who should have a statue built
in her honour

1615
01:34:57,270 --> 01:35:01,740
for saving the dogs as we can
even get a podcast award. She's

1616
01:35:01,740 --> 01:35:03,480
getting a statue in her honour.

1617
01:35:03,510 --> 01:35:06,270
So she and her group have
rescued sterilised found homes

1618
01:35:06,270 --> 01:35:10,080
for as many as 100 of the dogs.
But her estimate is that

1619
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,350
Sorokin's men may have already
killed 7000 dogs.

1620
01:35:13,679 --> 01:35:14,879
Okay, that's enough.

1621
01:35:16,020 --> 01:35:19,320
It's, you just want to get the
wrap up. Last 30 seconds,

1622
01:35:19,860 --> 01:35:23,610
wanted me to stop it. And
remember this. In the next two

1623
01:35:23,610 --> 01:35:26,640
weeks of Olympic hype, some
Americans will spend their time

1624
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,420
and their money supporting an
event that enabled this carnage.

1625
01:35:31,140 --> 01:35:34,110
But other Americans will refuse
to do so. And perhaps a few

1626
01:35:34,110 --> 01:35:36,690
Americans will calculate what
they might have spent on the

1627
01:35:36,690 --> 01:35:40,050
products advertised during the
telecast of these Olympics,

1628
01:35:40,410 --> 01:35:44,520
Olympics stained with the blood
of 1000s of dogs. And give some

1629
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:47,280
of that money. All right, don't

1630
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,130
want to hear the latest getting
ridiculous. You said something

1631
01:35:50,130 --> 01:35:53,610
very interesting. This, by the
way, this to me is like how do

1632
01:35:53,610 --> 01:35:56,880
you get this course he's got his
own staff. I mean, that's what

1633
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:02,310
he wants on that show. But it's
like I got an idea. You know,

1634
01:36:02,310 --> 01:36:05,040
there's they're trying to scare
people off to associate thing

1635
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,950
with this. And that. Dog
killers. Yeah.

1636
01:36:07,980 --> 01:36:10,740
But that's the meeting. I just
had what we can't do gays

1637
01:36:10,740 --> 01:36:12,630
because the guys who watch
sports are sick, and they don't

1638
01:36:12,630 --> 01:36:14,910
want to talk about gays all the
time. No, but they'll talk about

1639
01:36:14,910 --> 01:36:18,690
dogs and many hunting dogs, of
course, is horrible dog is man's

1640
01:36:18,690 --> 01:36:22,170
best friend is like killing a
person. Now, you said something

1641
01:36:22,170 --> 01:36:24,270
very interesting. And we have it
in the book now that we're

1642
01:36:24,270 --> 01:36:27,540
expecting a stray dog to run out
during the opening ceremony,

1643
01:36:27,540 --> 01:36:29,550
which of course, if that
happens, we'll be placed by the

1644
01:36:29,550 --> 01:36:33,840
State Department. Before we get
to the breaking news that we

1645
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:37,110
have regarding the State
Department, something else

1646
01:36:37,110 --> 01:36:43,110
happened just recently in
regards to Russia, which I

1647
01:36:43,110 --> 01:36:50,400
believe is now being intertwined
with the homophobia, the Russia,

1648
01:36:50,430 --> 01:36:59,250
Russia hates gays mean. And this
is the so called funding for NGO

1649
01:36:59,250 --> 01:37:02,370
law and just see what the exact
name of it is. Have you followed

1650
01:37:02,370 --> 01:37:08,100
this at all? A little bit. So
the the, there's a new law in in

1651
01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:12,390
Russia, that a non governmental
organisation if they receive

1652
01:37:12,390 --> 01:37:19,200
money from genuine as nonprofit,
they have to register as a

1653
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:24,450
foreign agent. Yeah. Which is
not all that abnormal. The

1654
01:37:24,450 --> 01:37:29,550
problem is, is this, this is the
actually the Human Rights Watch.

1655
01:37:29,550 --> 01:37:33,570
These guys are all over this, by
the way run and financed by the

1656
01:37:33,570 --> 01:37:37,440
State Department, State
Department. So here they are in

1657
01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:41,130
the European Parliament. It
literally combining these two,

1658
01:37:41,130 --> 01:37:42,900
it's a little hard to understand
cuz everyone's got a frickin

1659
01:37:42,900 --> 01:37:43,650
accent. But yeah,

1660
01:37:43,650 --> 01:37:48,780
we're very concerned, too, about
the certain restrictive new

1661
01:37:48,780 --> 01:37:53,010
laws, including the so called
foreign agent law, and the

1662
01:37:53,010 --> 01:37:57,540
reason rates and fiscal controls
performed properly by Russian

1663
01:37:57,540 --> 01:38:01,290
officials on the Office of
several domestic and foreign

1664
01:38:01,290 --> 01:38:06,810
NGOs and institutions. We will
also discuss the rights of LGBTI

1665
01:38:06,810 --> 01:38:10,200
people in the context of this
new legislation passed by the

1666
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:14,580
Duma that forbids I quote, the
propaganda of non traditional

1667
01:38:14,580 --> 01:38:17,100
sexual relations amongst minus

1668
01:38:17,130 --> 01:38:19,950
So here's what's being said and
being discussed. They're saying,

1669
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:24,960
just to ratchet it up one more
notch, that besides hating gays,

1670
01:38:25,350 --> 01:38:29,970
the Russians are cracking down
on nonprofit nongovernmental

1671
01:38:29,970 --> 01:38:34,530
organisations who are receiving
cash to help the gays. So

1672
01:38:34,530 --> 01:38:38,820
they're making it worth taking
the gay money. This is now it's

1673
01:38:38,850 --> 01:38:42,360
this is obscene. What is
happening? This isn't it's a

1674
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:48,660
bubble. It's not true. And
you've got people freaking out

1675
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:53,130
and making up just making stuff
up to an incredible degree.

1676
01:38:54,060 --> 01:38:57,810
About how and of course, you
know, everyone should be careful

1677
01:38:57,810 --> 01:39:01,140
of America's non government
organisations. Those Those

1678
01:39:01,140 --> 01:39:03,720
exactly the organisations that
start riots.

1679
01:39:03,930 --> 01:39:07,920
Yeah, no. This is what we do. We
get we got a clue about

1680
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,190
this is our good at it. Yeah,
we're very good at it. This is

1681
01:39:11,190 --> 01:39:14,220
our system. This is this is how
we roll and Russia smart like

1682
01:39:14,220 --> 01:39:16,230
now we don't want that. You
know, we want to make sure we

1683
01:39:16,230 --> 01:39:19,920
know what these people are
doing. And now you get the oh,

1684
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:20,430
there's so many,

1685
01:39:20,490 --> 01:39:25,920
by the way, what we generally
try to do in our country. Yeah,

1686
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:29,820
if there's a Russian front,
yeah. We'd like to know Yeah.

1687
01:39:32,250 --> 01:39:32,850
Wait, go on.

1688
01:39:33,570 --> 01:39:37,230
No, so there's all of these
different organisations. Excuse

1689
01:39:37,230 --> 01:39:39,900
me so you principle six.org is
something you might want to look

1690
01:39:39,900 --> 01:39:46,080
at principle number six.org. And
this is obvious, and they don't

1691
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:49,830
even tell you who's financing
them other than, again, American

1692
01:39:49,830 --> 01:39:53,670
Apparel was one of their one of
their partners who's you know,

1693
01:39:53,670 --> 01:39:58,650
this is buying, buying order. P
six gear, get your T shirt and

1694
01:39:58,650 --> 01:40:03,180
sit and say I hate rush. to
Russia, and that's essentially

1695
01:40:03,180 --> 01:40:07,170
what it is. And then they'll be
they'll send money to the LGBT

1696
01:40:07,170 --> 01:40:11,610
community to help them with
whatever horrible thing is going

1697
01:40:11,610 --> 01:40:17,220
on in Russia, the New York Times
points directly in, in one of

1698
01:40:17,220 --> 01:40:21,180
their articles on the lead, I
guess. I don't know if it's a

1699
01:40:21,180 --> 01:40:25,860
blog or what that is. Yeah.
Christine Houser points to a

1700
01:40:25,860 --> 01:40:30,660
video, a YouTube video made by
Human Rights Watch, which is

1701
01:40:30,660 --> 01:40:33,060
well done, you know, but
there's, there's no context has

1702
01:40:33,060 --> 01:40:37,440
no journalistic reporting here.
There's no names of so called

1703
01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:40,740
victims of video basically
shows, like six different cases

1704
01:40:40,770 --> 01:40:44,970
of people who are the voiceover
says, This guy is gay, and they

1705
01:40:44,970 --> 01:40:45,960
kicked him in the head.

1706
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:50,670
The guy that's there even
happened in San Francisco Yeah,

1707
01:40:50,700 --> 01:40:55,350
or even we just had people here
in Austin on Sixth Street,

1708
01:40:55,590 --> 01:40:58,290
kicked while they're on the
ground big scandal about it did

1709
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:02,190
gay or not, which they don't
think they were but it happens

1710
01:41:02,190 --> 01:41:05,400
everywhere, but the way it's put
together. And this is the New

1711
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,580
York Times, with just days left
until the start on Friday of the

1712
01:41:08,580 --> 01:41:10,950
Sochi Winter Olympics, Human
Rights Watch released a video on

1713
01:41:10,950 --> 01:41:16,470
Tuesday, completely edited could
be from 20 years of material, no

1714
01:41:16,470 --> 01:41:21,000
names no nothing journalistic
whatsoever. Human Rights Watch

1715
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:23,430
released a video on Tuesday that
highlights the disturbing

1716
01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:26,460
violence and discrimination that
gay, lesbian, transgender and

1717
01:41:26,460 --> 01:41:31,440
bisexual people face in Russia.
That is propaganda. It is not

1718
01:41:31,440 --> 01:41:35,310
journalism, whatever it is, it's
just not journalism. That just

1719
01:41:35,310 --> 01:41:41,190
saying things. And I understand.
Yeah, we're pissed that we

1720
01:41:41,190 --> 01:41:44,820
didn't get the Olympic Games and
that Snowdens in Russia, but T

1721
01:41:44,820 --> 01:41:51,660
people make it a little less
obvious. And then something came

1722
01:41:51,660 --> 01:41:54,840
out just before we started the
show, and this is also in

1723
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:58,800
relation to Russia. Regarding
Ukraine, you want to set this

1724
01:41:58,800 --> 01:41:59,310
clip up?

1725
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,660
Yeah, turns out and now we have
to think about where this claim

1726
01:42:03,660 --> 01:42:07,800
claim Yes, showed up
mysteriously on the internet.

1727
01:42:08,010 --> 01:42:12,390
And there's there's layers and
layers of irony about this clip.

1728
01:42:13,290 --> 01:42:16,320
And I believe and I will you
could put in the Red Book or not

1729
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:18,570
doesn't make any difference
because so obvious. This will be

1730
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:23,460
a scandal later this week. Right
now many people here will be

1731
01:42:23,460 --> 01:42:26,310
hearing it for the first time
and you'll probably hear it

1732
01:42:26,310 --> 01:42:29,190
again later. We're gonna try to
suppress it of course

1733
01:42:29,190 --> 01:42:31,680
I agree. Well, you're gonna hear
it uncensored here to start

1734
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:35,550
with, which is good. Right, and
let's just lay it out. We have

1735
01:42:35,550 --> 01:42:35,970
uses

1736
01:42:35,970 --> 01:42:39,930
Victoria Nuland on the phone
with the with the ambassador,

1737
01:42:39,930 --> 01:42:43,740
American Ambassador to the
Ukraine. just chit chatting

1738
01:42:43,830 --> 01:42:46,800
and let in this. I was gonna say
let's get a little background on

1739
01:42:46,830 --> 01:42:49,230
the Ukrainian situation. The
Ukrainian

1740
01:42:49,230 --> 01:42:52,830
situation is completely you
know, it's out of control. It's

1741
01:42:52,830 --> 01:42:57,990
a they're trying to overthrow
the government. And it's just a

1742
01:42:57,990 --> 01:43:02,310
little even more background we
have of I don't know how to put

1743
01:43:02,310 --> 01:43:05,340
this because there's our one of
our economic hitmen. We do have

1744
01:43:05,340 --> 01:43:10,860
a few. But one of them who's a
friend of mine has been dating

1745
01:43:10,860 --> 01:43:14,760
this woman who is you know that
there's this I can't remember

1746
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:15,120
the name.

1747
01:43:15,390 --> 01:43:19,200
Hold on a second. Hold on backup
just a little bit. One. So a

1748
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:21,840
friend of yours is dating a
woman and he's an economic

1749
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:23,370
hitman or she's she's

1750
01:43:23,370 --> 01:43:28,560
an economic hitman and she's a
spy for the State Department. As

1751
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:31,170
long as our show by the way, she
hates us.

1752
01:43:31,500 --> 01:43:33,630
Hate. Yeah, wait a minute,

1753
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:35,130
I would say that's probably
right.

1754
01:43:35,580 --> 01:43:36,450
Have you met her?

1755
01:43:36,930 --> 01:43:40,350
Know, okay, but never meet her.
She won't meet us. Wow. And it

1756
01:43:40,350 --> 01:43:42,360
turns out she is

1757
01:43:42,750 --> 01:43:45,990
because because we unmask the
CIA as for what they really are.

1758
01:43:45,990 --> 01:43:47,130
That's what she hates us.

1759
01:43:48,060 --> 01:43:50,700
No, she's not. She's in State
Department. She knew they stayed

1760
01:43:50,700 --> 01:43:52,470
in Florence. Get that little
agency.

1761
01:43:53,190 --> 01:43:56,940
Oh, okay. This is from all our
Hillary bashing. I get it.

1762
01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:00,390
Yeah. intelligence.gov has got
the list of all these little

1763
01:44:00,420 --> 01:44:04,020
mini agents. Okay, I get it. I
get it. And she's the one and

1764
01:44:04,020 --> 01:44:07,140
let me get the name of them. I
had it here. I sent myself a

1765
01:44:07,140 --> 01:44:10,770
note. And I can't find a note.
Did you email that to yourself?

1766
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,680
How do you do it? I mail it to
myself. So it will go to the

1767
01:44:13,710 --> 01:44:18,000
here's the go to
intelligence.gov. And then when

1768
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:23,460
you go to member agencies under
mission, you have the all the

1769
01:44:23,460 --> 01:44:26,010
agencies and this is all they're
all these agencies are in a

1770
01:44:26,010 --> 01:44:30,210
club. This is a club, literally
a collaborative club of all the

1771
01:44:30,300 --> 01:44:33,600
top intelligence agencies.
There's the Central Intelligence

1772
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,690
Agency, the Department of Energy
Office of intelligence, they

1773
01:44:36,690 --> 01:44:39,930
have an Intelligence Agency,
Department of Homeland Security

1774
01:44:39,930 --> 01:44:43,530
has an intelligence agency, the
Department of State this is her

1775
01:44:43,590 --> 01:44:46,110
I think I don't know this for a
fact I just put

1776
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:49,050
put two and two together.
There's a lot going on here.

1777
01:44:49,230 --> 01:44:49,770
Department of

1778
01:44:49,770 --> 01:44:54,390
State is called Intelligence and
Research. It's a spy agency that

1779
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:58,440
the State Department runs on its
own. I believe this woman works

1780
01:44:58,440 --> 01:45:03,750
for him. She's in the Ukraine.
Okay, Newlands in the Ukraine.

1781
01:45:03,750 --> 01:45:04,680
They're all

1782
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:06,180
in the Ukraine right now,

1783
01:45:06,210 --> 01:45:08,370
the Department of State's
Intelligence and Research

1784
01:45:08,370 --> 01:45:11,130
operation is interesting because
they're so they actually

1785
01:45:11,130 --> 01:45:15,450
assigned a slightly meta
Intelligence Group because they

1786
01:45:16,470 --> 01:45:20,010
they overlook all the OIC do a
little oversight on all the

1787
01:45:20,010 --> 01:45:22,350
other intelligence agencies to
make sure that they're

1788
01:45:22,590 --> 01:45:28,020
supporting each other, the State
Department's theories about the

1789
01:45:28,020 --> 01:45:28,590
world,

1790
01:45:28,740 --> 01:45:31,890
right, which is that they have
the official ones and then the

1791
01:45:32,100 --> 01:45:35,640
unofficial, which is Human
Rights Watch and Amnesty and all

1792
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:39,030
these fantastic organisations,
which literally get funding from

1793
01:45:39,030 --> 01:45:41,550
the State Department. And then
there's the nongovernmental

1794
01:45:41,550 --> 01:45:45,330
organisations on the ground, who
just like what Russia is now

1795
01:45:45,330 --> 01:45:49,590
forbidding start, start stuff
and start a ruckus.

1796
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:54,930
So So Nuland was phone tapped,
and who do you think might have

1797
01:45:54,930 --> 01:46:01,860
done that? Yeah, so we I think
you probably agree with this. We

1798
01:46:01,860 --> 01:46:05,130
assumed the Russians tapped your
phone and released this thing,

1799
01:46:05,130 --> 01:46:08,580
hoping it would go viral.
Remember, I'm sorry. Play it.

1800
01:46:08,610 --> 01:46:08,910
Okay.

1801
01:46:08,940 --> 01:46:12,540
And so let's just the players,
again, are Ukraine in the

1802
01:46:12,540 --> 01:46:16,320
middle. Russia wants to transit
gas and everything through

1803
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:20,250
Ukraine into their biggest, they
keep it as a buffer state and at

1804
01:46:20,250 --> 01:46:24,330
Buffer State offered security as
well and wants to supply supply

1805
01:46:24,450 --> 01:46:26,730
their gas to their biggest
customer, the European Union,

1806
01:46:26,970 --> 01:46:31,950
the European Union, really
wanted to get Ukraine in, you

1807
01:46:31,950 --> 01:46:35,550
know, to obviously, to fix the
prices of the gas. And you know,

1808
01:46:35,550 --> 01:46:38,730
and of course, we have another
country moving to the euro. And

1809
01:46:38,730 --> 01:46:41,130
the United States, I think I
have a report which kind of

1810
01:46:41,130 --> 01:46:45,000
shows what our true mission is.
But we're well, here's Victoria

1811
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:49,110
Nuland And, clearly, we're a
player separate from Ukraine and

1812
01:46:49,110 --> 01:46:50,190
the EU can't remember

1813
01:46:50,190 --> 01:46:53,460
if I told you this, or if I only
told Washington this that when I

1814
01:46:53,460 --> 01:46:57,180
talked to Jeff Feltman this
morning, he had a new name for

1815
01:46:57,180 --> 01:47:01,020
the UN guy, Robert Serry, did I
write that this morning? Yeah, I

1816
01:47:01,020 --> 01:47:06,060
saw that. He's now gotten both
salary and Bonnke. Moon to agree

1817
01:47:06,060 --> 01:47:10,800
that salary could come in Monday
or Tuesday. Okay. So that would

1818
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:14,100
be great, I think to help glue
this thing and have the UN help

1819
01:47:14,100 --> 01:47:18,510
glue it. And, you know, fuck the
EU, though. Exactly. And

1820
01:47:18,510 --> 01:47:20,550
I think we've got to do
something to make it stick

1821
01:47:20,550 --> 01:47:23,580
together. Because you can be
pretty sure that if it does, if

1822
01:47:23,580 --> 01:47:26,820
it does start to gain altitude,
the Russians will be working

1823
01:47:26,820 --> 01:47:30,030
behind the scenes to try to
torpedo it. Yes.

1824
01:47:30,929 --> 01:47:34,469
First of all, is also in the in
somewhere in the clip, the

1825
01:47:34,469 --> 01:47:38,429
original clip. She goes on to
say that she wants to make sure

1826
01:47:38,429 --> 01:47:42,509
Klitschko who is the head,
essentially the titular head of

1827
01:47:42,509 --> 01:47:47,939
the of the opposition. Not to be
part of this at all, if we want

1828
01:47:47,939 --> 01:47:51,899
to put in one of our guys. And
we're already planning to put in

1829
01:47:51,899 --> 01:47:56,459
an American stooge in this
Ukrainian situation. And this is

1830
01:47:56,459 --> 01:48:00,329
not this isn't. So the Russians,
obviously, of doing what they do

1831
01:48:00,599 --> 01:48:03,779
what we do, they tap the phone,
but instead of what we do, which

1832
01:48:03,779 --> 01:48:06,569
is keep the stuff in a big pile
over there, and Utah somewhere,

1833
01:48:07,079 --> 01:48:08,129
they released it,

1834
01:48:08,130 --> 01:48:12,660
put it on the internet. Now, I
think I know what some of this

1835
01:48:12,660 --> 01:48:16,500
is about. There's something that
happened in Ukraine, which I was

1836
01:48:16,500 --> 01:48:22,590
unaware of. And here's a report
from I think this is well, it's

1837
01:48:22,590 --> 01:48:25,500
an English report, one of our
Ukrainian listeners sent this to

1838
01:48:25,500 --> 01:48:29,070
me. And I was surprised by this
knowledge and operating

1839
01:48:29,070 --> 01:48:31,950
agreement on shale gas
production between Ukraine and

1840
01:48:31,950 --> 01:48:35,880
the US oil and gas company
Chevron may be signed in March,

1841
01:48:36,090 --> 01:48:38,610
and therefore Chevron will be
able to actually start

1842
01:48:38,610 --> 01:48:43,290
development of the Alaska field
in western Ukraine. Apparently,

1843
01:48:43,350 --> 01:48:46,620
there's some big shale gas in
Ukraine that has been recently

1844
01:48:46,620 --> 01:48:52,200
discovered. Oh, and shapes then
Chevron, Chevron gets the

1845
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,950
contract they need to start in
March. So what do you do you

1846
01:48:55,950 --> 01:48:59,730
call your resource extraction
organisation known as the State

1847
01:48:59,730 --> 01:49:03,660
Department, who then do whatever
necessary until ultimately

1848
01:49:03,660 --> 01:49:05,970
sending in the jackals on behalf

1849
01:49:05,970 --> 01:49:07,080
of Chevron? Yes,

1850
01:49:07,170 --> 01:49:10,230
acting energy and coal industry
minister at the Watts debates

1851
01:49:10,230 --> 01:49:13,800
case had this on Tuesday,
Chevron representatives are in

1852
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:17,190
Ukraine and coordinate their
actions with the Ministry so

1853
01:49:17,190 --> 01:49:20,490
it's keynoted besides, according
to the Acting Minister and

1854
01:49:20,490 --> 01:49:24,390
investment programme of the
shell company for 2014 was

1855
01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:27,660
approved last shell. So we have
Chevron we have shell

1856
01:49:28,830 --> 01:49:31,860
I think we're gonna keep with
Chevron because fuck the EU.

1857
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:36,240
Fuck the EU. They can you dig
and take shell out of there?

1858
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:40,170
Yes. Chevron. Chevron is working
for one country, not to Chevron.

1859
01:49:40,620 --> 01:49:43,470
Yeah. Yeah, it's all fun. But

1860
01:49:43,500 --> 01:49:46,020
but really, it's all about human
rights. And we just want you

1861
01:49:46,020 --> 01:49:48,900
know, we just want if we have
democratic countries with

1862
01:49:48,900 --> 01:49:52,320
Democratic leaders, the world is
a better place. It's not at all

1863
01:49:52,320 --> 01:50:01,830
about, I don't know, oil and
gas. It's so transparent. I'm

1864
01:50:01,830 --> 01:50:02,190
blown

1865
01:50:02,190 --> 01:50:05,250
away with the staying with the
State Department. Are you

1866
01:50:05,250 --> 01:50:08,100
familiar with the with the
parody video? That's a big

1867
01:50:08,100 --> 01:50:12,180
scandal. No, I'm actually gonna
go I'm gonna mention something

1868
01:50:12,180 --> 01:50:17,250
else about our economic hitman
his girlfriend. Oh, after I

1869
01:50:17,250 --> 01:50:20,820
bring this out there so there's
a parody video floating around

1870
01:50:20,850 --> 01:50:25,230
Israel I believe and it's got
innocence. It's a news report. I

1871
01:50:25,230 --> 01:50:27,570
only have the absolute beginning
of it. I have

1872
01:50:27,570 --> 01:50:30,180
heard about I think I saw I
haven't seen I don't know what

1873
01:50:30,180 --> 01:50:36,210
it's about. So hold on, hold on.
Mr. De save all around. Now, you

1874
01:50:36,210 --> 01:50:38,100
sure you want to talk about the
State Department?

1875
01:50:38,850 --> 01:50:43,710
State Department so they have
versus video on this list? I

1876
01:50:43,710 --> 01:50:45,900
got State Department and the
video would that be it?

1877
01:50:46,590 --> 01:50:50,640
State that's I think that's her.
I think that's a Pataki or

1878
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:51,240
whatever. No, it's

1879
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:54,690
her name. No, Jen. Jen Sakhi
saqi.

1880
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:57,780
Talking about it. Speaking
American slamming, robbing the

1881
01:50:57,810 --> 01:51:02,130
prison State Department on peace
talks. Aaron No, it's horrid

1882
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:06,150
Carrie parody, you know, this
just the beginning of the thing

1883
01:51:06,150 --> 01:51:08,220
because there's no reason to
watch or listen to the whole

1884
01:51:08,220 --> 01:51:12,450
thing is mostly visual anyway.
And I'll set it up. There's a

1885
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:16,980
it's a fake news report. And
John Kerry is floating around

1886
01:51:16,980 --> 01:51:21,030
the Middle East and hit and
there's a guy who's who's like a

1887
01:51:21,030 --> 01:51:23,430
short version of John Kerry
looks a little like him. He's

1888
01:51:23,430 --> 01:51:27,570
got a phoney wig on and he's in
a big giant Escalade with a

1889
01:51:27,570 --> 01:51:28,230
bunch of Pat

1890
01:51:29,370 --> 01:51:32,400
who was this is this Israeli
produced is this

1891
01:51:32,670 --> 01:51:37,260
it's sketchy. But I think we
think it's Palestinian produced

1892
01:51:37,260 --> 01:51:39,720
or maybe Israeli produced one of
the two they don't like carry

1893
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:43,230
either side. Good both sides in
this of this debate about you

1894
01:51:43,230 --> 01:51:46,560
know, the they're trying to do
peace talks and whatever. Nobody

1895
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:49,170
likes carry this. So nobody
likes carry so they're doing the

1896
01:51:49,170 --> 01:51:52,410
same. So the guy looks a little
like carry but he's he sounds

1897
01:51:52,410 --> 01:51:55,890
like like a Turkish rug
salesman. So you won't get any

1898
01:51:55,920 --> 01:52:00,120
carry imitation. Alright, this
is just the very beginning of

1899
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,550
it. And this was good began the
controversy.

1900
01:52:03,030 --> 01:52:06,750
John Kerry landed this morning
in Israel as part of his ongoing

1901
01:52:06,750 --> 01:52:09,570
efforts to broker an agreement
between Israel and the

1902
01:52:09,570 --> 01:52:10,620
Palestinians.

1903
01:52:15,630 --> 01:52:21,180
If not, my name is not Dr. John
Kerry. John Kelly. Yes. Jonathan

1904
01:52:21,180 --> 01:52:22,920
solutions. Yes.

1905
01:52:22,950 --> 01:52:25,980
Carrie began his tour at the
Wailing Wall in Jerusalem.

1906
01:52:26,190 --> 01:52:30,660
Perhaps the most sensitive issue
in the negotiations. Providing

1907
01:52:30,660 --> 01:52:32,670
Jerusalem is not an easy thing.

1908
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:38,730
We must realise that it's holy
to all religions, Jews,

1909
01:52:38,940 --> 01:52:44,970
Christians, Muslims, Buddhists.
Klingons. And what I'm saying is

1910
01:52:46,770 --> 01:52:52,230
why fight over an old wall? I'll
build you a brand new wall.

1911
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:56,070
Anyway, it goes on like that.

1912
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:58,770
Okay, so yeah, it's a bit
parody. All right, understand?

1913
01:52:59,280 --> 01:52:59,730
What got

1914
01:53:00,330 --> 01:53:02,460
International is an
international incident this

1915
01:53:02,460 --> 01:53:03,030
video?

1916
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:07,740
Well, it's, it's become an
issue, okay? Because it's it

1917
01:53:07,740 --> 01:53:11,700
because according to Jen, you
know, they're insulting for

1918
01:53:11,700 --> 01:53:15,840
Kerry left and right. And this
is just another example of the

1919
01:53:15,900 --> 01:53:18,480
insults being thrown at this
poor bastard.

1920
01:53:18,990 --> 01:53:21,660
This is a State Department in
the video. So this would be the

1921
01:53:21,660 --> 01:53:25,770
State Department and the video,
the q&a that went on about this

1922
01:53:25,770 --> 01:53:28,740
video. And it turns out, there's
a little factoid in here which I

1923
01:53:28,740 --> 01:53:30,210
want to discuss and after

1924
01:53:31,440 --> 01:53:35,760
you watch the Israeli settlers
councils video, the local India

1925
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:37,920
is Middle East peace efforts.

1926
01:53:38,519 --> 01:53:42,209
I don't believe he's watched the
video. We're certainly aware of

1927
01:53:42,209 --> 01:53:46,529
the video. I have not personally
watched it now a new reaction to

1928
01:53:46,529 --> 01:53:50,729
it. I think it it goes in with
what I've already stated about

1929
01:53:50,849 --> 01:53:55,259
attempts to mischaracterize his
record his position, his

1930
01:53:55,259 --> 01:53:59,849
positions on issues, his
statements, how that is not an

1931
01:53:59,849 --> 01:54:03,509
attack on him. That's an attack
on the process. And of course,

1932
01:54:03,719 --> 01:54:06,029
that kind of rhetoric we find
unacceptable.

1933
01:54:07,890 --> 01:54:11,130
I mean, clearly, the Secretary
does not believe that Jerusalem

1934
01:54:11,130 --> 01:54:14,910
is the holy city for hobbits.
Yeah, man, I

1935
01:54:14,910 --> 01:54:19,800
have not seen the video match.
Perhaps. So perhaps now you've

1936
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:23,340
sold it very well. I will I will
watch the video I'm making a

1937
01:54:23,340 --> 01:54:25,740
broad point about all the
different

1938
01:54:26,940 --> 01:54:31,680
what kind of a lying sack is
she? I have not seen your video

1939
01:54:31,710 --> 01:54:33,840
course she's seen the video.
Well, here's

1940
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,270
the thing. I'm you know, I
thought that too. And I think

1941
01:54:36,270 --> 01:54:39,870
that's for example, it's
sunlight his hits. I would be

1942
01:54:39,870 --> 01:54:42,270
the first one to if I'm working
the State Department. I'd be the

1943
01:54:42,270 --> 01:54:46,830
first one to get on that video.
Exactly. I'm not absolutely sure

1944
01:54:46,830 --> 01:54:50,580
that you mean it sounds like
yeah, I I questioned it because

1945
01:54:51,060 --> 01:54:54,990
the woman that I believe is part
of the Yeah, so she's in the

1946
01:54:54,990 --> 01:55:00,660
State Department. She's part of
intelligence. So the Her

1947
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:08,310
boyfriend, sits her down at his
computer and asks her I mean,

1948
01:55:08,310 --> 01:55:13,410
never get another note from
these guys asks her to, she

1949
01:55:13,410 --> 01:55:16,920
says, Have you ever seen the
Bradley Manning stuff?

1950
01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:19,410
You mean like the helicopter
killing people?

1951
01:55:19,620 --> 01:55:21,810
Well, she I don't know if she
even saw that. But I'm talking

1952
01:55:21,810 --> 01:55:25,320
about the the WikiLeaks the big
pile of crap, right? The cables,

1953
01:55:25,350 --> 01:55:32,070
right? And she said, No. She's
not allowed to ever see them.

1954
01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:35,640
It's just what you can't i can't
access them at the office

1955
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:36,030
illegal.

1956
01:55:36,030 --> 01:55:38,580
She's She's It's classified. So
she's not allowed to see it. I

1957
01:55:38,580 --> 01:55:40,860
think. Isn't that the idea?
Yeah, yeah.

1958
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:45,180
Yeah. Who Are they kidding, with
this nonsense that they can't

1959
01:55:45,180 --> 01:55:46,290
look at this stuff.

1960
01:55:46,470 --> 01:55:49,470
It's called
compartmentalization. And it's

1961
01:55:49,470 --> 01:55:52,440
done with very specific reasons.
So no one really has the full

1962
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:56,370
picture. The fact that you and I
have a pretty decent picture,

1963
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:59,610
makes no difference. We're
expendable. I can get to the

1964
01:55:59,610 --> 01:56:04,110
head in five seconds. If I'm
annoying enough. It's just Yeah,

1965
01:56:04,140 --> 01:56:05,730
it's not important

1966
01:56:05,730 --> 01:56:08,730
to me. If you want to look at it
from that perspective, I there's

1967
01:56:08,730 --> 01:56:11,700
plenty. You're not the only one
that's that has a broad

1968
01:56:11,700 --> 01:56:15,210
perspective, there's plenty of
people that have a much better

1969
01:56:15,210 --> 01:56:17,850
perspective than we haven't have
worked in the government, and

1970
01:56:17,850 --> 01:56:22,350
maybe are not security cleared,
but they've seen enough and

1971
01:56:22,350 --> 01:56:25,200
they've heard enough and people
gossip. I also

1972
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:28,320
think that people are very
afraid. I believe that the a lot

1973
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:31,590
of the people that I've met in
the DC area, and certainly

1974
01:56:31,590 --> 01:56:34,920
during our first Hot Pockets
tour, who have clearance,

1975
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:38,130
certain clearances, they don't
want to risk. They don't want to

1976
01:56:38,130 --> 01:56:40,920
risk their job. They want to
risk anything by looking at

1977
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:43,380
something that may not be
cleared for them for their

1978
01:56:43,380 --> 01:56:49,620
level, because they know that
it's being checked. And yeah, of

1979
01:56:49,620 --> 01:56:53,790
course, there's people who who
have a lot of the the whole

1980
01:56:53,790 --> 01:56:57,450
picture, but I think those those
people are on podcasters I don't

1981
01:56:57,450 --> 01:57:00,660
think I don't think the
government actually allows this

1982
01:57:00,660 --> 01:57:05,970
to happen. I really don't. It's
called compartmentalization. It

1983
01:57:05,970 --> 01:57:08,880
happens all the time. So no one
within government can really put

1984
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:09,570
it all together.

1985
01:57:11,190 --> 01:57:13,530
Yeah, I guess you can walk
around as a cog in the wheel.

1986
01:57:13,530 --> 01:57:16,440
Just lockstep and not caring
that there's, you know, you've

1987
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:17,580
been fed crap.

1988
01:57:18,419 --> 01:57:21,149
People like their jobs that like
their houses, they like their

1989
01:57:21,149 --> 01:57:24,269
lives. They're being told by the
television what to do. And

1990
01:57:25,019 --> 01:57:28,769
then they do it. Yeah, exactly.
So I have the opinion that it's

1991
01:57:28,769 --> 01:57:33,869
quite possible that she hasn't
seen the video. And she'd been

1992
01:57:33,869 --> 01:57:37,409
she makes it because the way
she's answered the question, she

1993
01:57:37,409 --> 01:57:39,479
says, Well, this is just another
example of Miss

1994
01:57:39,479 --> 01:57:43,019
characterization, which is not
has nothing to do with Carrie,

1995
01:57:43,019 --> 01:57:46,169
but it's the process and blah,
blah, blah. That's if she saw

1996
01:57:46,169 --> 01:57:50,489
the video Like, like Matt has
seen it. Okay, she would have

1997
01:57:50,489 --> 01:57:54,029
known it's just ridiculous and
she would have said, Yeah, I saw

1998
01:57:54,029 --> 01:57:57,119
it. It's ridiculous. Now she
could have been forbidden from

1999
01:57:57,119 --> 01:57:58,229
seeing it, which is like

2000
01:57:58,230 --> 01:58:02,670
he really, here's what I don't
understand. So parodies are done

2001
01:58:02,700 --> 01:58:06,990
all the time. In this country
everywhere around the world. Why

2002
01:58:06,990 --> 01:58:11,430
all of a sudden, is this parody?
Such a big deal? It's not like

2003
01:58:11,430 --> 01:58:16,020
the Knesset produced the video
themselves. This is just This is

2004
01:58:16,020 --> 01:58:19,260
more this is this is
psychological warfare, and we're

2005
01:58:19,260 --> 01:58:23,970
falling for it and Matt clearly
is a part of it. Why else would

2006
01:58:23,970 --> 01:58:25,500
he bring this is not a big deal.

2007
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:28,080
It wasn't his question it was
somebody else's matches threw in

2008
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:32,370
the kicker wondering why she was
nuts why she didn't see it.

2009
01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:35,730
Okay and so it it sounded like
an Israeli guy who brought it up

2010
01:58:36,780 --> 01:58:41,220
yeah did write it was well this
is just they don't like carrying

2011
01:58:41,220 --> 01:58:44,550
they're trying to stir up
trouble. Yeah, and Israelis

2012
01:58:44,550 --> 01:58:47,850
conserve as much trouble as the
Russians big time. Oh, you're

2013
01:58:47,850 --> 01:58:50,370
not gonna be dropped and phone
taps either

2014
01:58:50,370 --> 01:58:54,360
way. This Justin and I think
this is the right move. Billie

2015
01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:57,300
Jean King no longer part of the
Olympic delegation.

2016
01:58:59,880 --> 01:59:01,200
Oh good for her. Yeah,

2017
01:59:01,230 --> 01:59:05,790
she's I know exact she's I think
she's great you guys Oh no, my

2018
01:59:05,790 --> 01:59:08,730
mom is sick whatever exactly.
You do not want any part of this

2019
01:59:08,730 --> 01:59:12,570
Billie Jean King you don't want
any part of this farce

2020
01:59:20,970 --> 01:59:25,620
Yeah, it's this rush of this is
getting ridiculous as far as I'm

2021
01:59:25,620 --> 01:59:29,940
concerned this Russian crap and
American crap at the throwing

2022
01:59:29,940 --> 01:59:33,150
all this junk get the Russians
to screw up the Olympics is one

2023
01:59:33,150 --> 01:59:37,950
thing leaking, you know, private
conversations, which again for

2024
01:59:37,950 --> 01:59:40,140
no one on the State Department
probably get to listen to.

2025
01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:43,200
Anyway, I think it's going to
cause it neulander job.

2026
01:59:43,230 --> 01:59:45,630
Do you think that this will be
picked up or do you think it

2027
01:59:45,630 --> 01:59:48,450
will be completely ignored by
the media?

2028
01:59:49,500 --> 01:59:52,620
I think is going to have to be
picked up was just one of those

2029
01:59:52,620 --> 01:59:57,480
things. Once it gets tweeted. By
the no agenda show where

2030
01:59:57,480 --> 02:00:01,080
whoever. Yeah, it's out I mean,
This is gonna be good. They're

2031
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:04,020
gonna start asking why isn't
somebody saying something? I

2032
02:00:04,020 --> 02:00:08,130
just know what? I think you know
who's gonna bring it up? Matt?

2033
02:00:08,310 --> 02:00:13,980
Your buddy Nigel? Oh, Faraj.
Yes. Well, Nigel brings it up.

2034
02:00:14,070 --> 02:00:14,970
It's all over.

2035
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:19,080
Well, let me ask you out, why
have we still not seen a single

2036
02:00:19,080 --> 02:00:25,860
clip? Or, quote or anything from
the German Snowden interview?

2037
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:28,950
This is the somewhere a memo
went

2038
02:00:28,980 --> 02:00:32,640
free at this point. I'm sorry. I
said it's creepy at this point.

2039
02:00:32,670 --> 02:00:38,610
It's extremely creepy. Not a
single news organisation can

2040
02:00:39,210 --> 02:00:43,770
justify not pointing to it
talking about it quoting

2041
02:00:43,770 --> 02:00:46,410
anything from it. It's not
acceptable.

2042
02:00:49,860 --> 02:00:52,500
No, it's not. I'm getting the
sense that all these people are

2043
02:00:52,500 --> 02:00:55,440
read in. They've signed security
agreements. And they're not

2044
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:57,480
going to say anything, because
they're not allowed to. I think

2045
02:00:57,480 --> 02:00:58,680
that's where the media is,
right?

2046
02:00:58,710 --> 02:01:03,210
I agree with you. That's exactly
where it is, we are the only

2047
02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:06,390
bastions of freedom.

2048
02:01:06,990 --> 02:01:09,510
It's pretty close to that. I
mean, we could have the knock on

2049
02:01:09,510 --> 02:01:12,810
the door. And it would be the
guy would come in not to shoot

2050
02:01:12,810 --> 02:01:14,700
you. Oh, to give me come and say
here

2051
02:01:14,820 --> 02:01:17,460
are signing this. You are
signing this. Now.

2052
02:01:17,700 --> 02:01:21,780
You're gonna get some security
levels z, which is at the

2053
02:01:21,780 --> 02:01:24,360
bottom, but you can now you
can't talk about any of this

2054
02:01:24,360 --> 02:01:24,780
stuff.

2055
02:01:25,110 --> 02:01:26,940
What would happen that would
that's that

2056
02:01:26,970 --> 02:01:28,260
that's what this show is?

2057
02:01:28,410 --> 02:01:31,590
Yeah, it actually scares me more
than anything. I'm less worried

2058
02:01:31,590 --> 02:01:34,860
of getting to to the head than
getting the NSL to get the

2059
02:01:34,860 --> 02:01:37,200
letter, then it's all over. And
then I have no vocation.

2060
02:01:37,740 --> 02:01:41,070
There may be and we don't know
what NSL is there are that are

2061
02:01:41,070 --> 02:01:44,880
out there. There may be NSOs.
We've never heard of that do

2062
02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:49,560
exactly what I just described,
which shuts you up as a member

2063
02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:51,540
of the media or there was just
thrown in jail.

2064
02:01:53,340 --> 02:01:55,860
Yeah, somehow I still don't
think that were important

2065
02:01:55,860 --> 02:01:57,120
enough. I just don't see it

2066
02:01:57,120 --> 02:01:59,970
now. I don't think so either.
Quickly. I think a lot of people

2067
02:01:59,970 --> 02:02:04,230
in government listen to us. And
they go that's pretty good and

2068
02:02:05,070 --> 02:02:06,270
wrong. Wrong.

2069
02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:09,360
That's pretty good. Hey, wanna
go out to lunch?

2070
02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:15,750
It's pretty good. So what Yeah,
I mean, Doolin thing has nothing

2071
02:02:15,750 --> 02:02:18,210
to Newland thing. Now I agree
about that. Just very

2072
02:02:18,210 --> 02:02:21,540
disconcerning that the there's
two things disconcerning about

2073
02:02:21,540 --> 02:02:25,020
the Snowden interview. One is
that it's not gotten any play in

2074
02:02:25,020 --> 02:02:28,380
the USA by any media outlets has
gone by as you know, people like

2075
02:02:28,380 --> 02:02:33,510
us. A and B. Where's the other
six hours of it? How come that

2076
02:02:33,510 --> 02:02:34,560
hasn't been leaked out?

2077
02:02:34,590 --> 02:02:38,400
Oh, yeah. No, there's it's it's
very edited. Very, very,

2078
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:41,640
extremely tightly at it. It was
also either questions or even in

2079
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:44,400
English. I mean, how
international Do you want it to

2080
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:49,890
be? You know, now, there's
something that came up. And this

2081
02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:53,190
goes back to Rogers, but it's
part of the the snow job thing

2082
02:02:53,670 --> 02:02:57,450
as this move toward moves
towards the obvious media shield

2083
02:02:57,450 --> 02:03:02,010
law, in violation of the
American Constitution. This is

2084
02:03:02,130 --> 02:03:07,080
Rogers baiting, literally
baiting Comey. Now Comey is

2085
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:10,650
variances that new Director of
the FBI, he's a new kid on the

2086
02:03:10,650 --> 02:03:14,880
block. He's very, very good. I
mean, he's a banker. He was on

2087
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:17,940
the board of directors, HSBC,
and you know, he's part of the

2088
02:03:17,940 --> 02:03:21,480
big hedge funds. As the right
guy. He's the right guy to have

2089
02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:23,700
because the FBI, of course,
helps launder the money. And

2090
02:03:23,700 --> 02:03:26,520
he's on the, in the
congressional hearing that this

2091
02:03:26,520 --> 02:03:30,030
is just one of the little bits
of it. And Rogers is making a

2092
02:03:30,030 --> 02:03:35,430
very, very interesting argument
for theft of documents and how

2093
02:03:35,430 --> 02:03:39,870
and the difference between theft
of documents and fencing, stolen

2094
02:03:39,870 --> 02:03:43,740
property and freedom of the
press, which I got to hand it to

2095
02:03:43,740 --> 02:03:47,820
Comey. He's not really taking
the bait, but he is setting the

2096
02:03:47,820 --> 02:03:48,990
debate up.

2097
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:53,250
There have been discussions
about selling of access to this

2098
02:03:53,250 --> 02:03:59,550
material to both newspaper
outlets and other places. Mr.

2099
02:03:59,550 --> 02:04:02,160
Comey the best of your
knowledge, is fencing stolen

2100
02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:07,590
material, is that a crime? Yes,
it is. And would be selling the

2101
02:04:07,590 --> 02:04:10,530
access of classified material
that is stolen from the United

2102
02:04:10,530 --> 02:04:12,270
States government is would that
be a crime?

2103
02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:16,830
It would be it's an issue that
can be complicated if involves

2104
02:04:16,830 --> 02:04:18,990
the news gathering and news
promulgation function, but in

2105
02:04:18,990 --> 02:04:21,990
general fencing or selling
stolen property is a crime.

2106
02:04:22,139 --> 02:04:27,149
So if I'm a newspaper reporter
for fill in the blank, and I

2107
02:04:27,149 --> 02:04:30,299
sell stolen material, is that
legal? Because I'm a newspaper

2108
02:04:30,299 --> 02:04:30,809
reporter.

2109
02:04:31,740 --> 02:04:33,510
Right? If you're a newspaper
reporter and you're hacking

2110
02:04:33,510 --> 02:04:35,700
stolen jewellery, it's still a
crime. And if

2111
02:04:35,700 --> 02:04:39,150
I'm hacking stolen, classified
material that I'm not legally in

2112
02:04:39,150 --> 02:04:42,960
possession of for personal gain
and profit, is that not a crime?

2113
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:46,470
I think that's a harder question
because it involves a news

2114
02:04:46,470 --> 02:04:48,810
gathering function could have
First Amendment implications.

2115
02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:51,450
That's something that probably I
think we better answered by the

2116
02:04:51,450 --> 02:04:52,440
department justice.

2117
02:04:52,500 --> 02:04:56,640
So entering into a commercial
enterprise to souls sell stolen

2118
02:04:56,640 --> 02:04:57,510
material is

2119
02:04:58,830 --> 02:05:02,040
at the back of have a little bit
Did you were you kibitzing and

2120
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:03,570
you said you think or there was
that?

2121
02:05:04,170 --> 02:05:06,120
I'm sorry. I said that. I said
that. That was me.

2122
02:05:06,150 --> 02:05:07,170
I thought it was Rogers.

2123
02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:11,250
I'm working on my Rogers
impersonation. Okay. Were you

2124
02:05:11,250 --> 02:05:13,680
confused? Sorry about that.
Sorry about that. But he might

2125
02:05:13,680 --> 02:05:14,580
as well have said it,

2126
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:17,610
the amendment implications that
something would probably be

2127
02:05:17,610 --> 02:05:19,380
better answered by the
Department of Justice.

2128
02:05:19,440 --> 02:05:23,550
So entering into a commercial
enterprise to source sell stolen

2129
02:05:23,550 --> 02:05:28,050
material is acceptable to a
legitimate news organisation.

2130
02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:31,920
I'm not sure I'm able to answer
that question in the abstract.

2131
02:05:32,070 --> 02:05:33,990
It's something we ought to think
about, is it not by the way,

2132
02:05:33,990 --> 02:05:35,340
that that's a keeper?

2133
02:05:35,940 --> 02:05:38,550
I'm not sure I'm able to answer
that question in the abstract.

2134
02:05:39,510 --> 02:05:39,930
Yeah,

2135
02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:41,610
that's that's a pro. That's,
that's,

2136
02:05:41,639 --> 02:05:45,209
that is a that is a lawyer
banker dude, right there that is

2137
02:05:45,209 --> 02:05:45,599
Pro.

2138
02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:49,590
So this is reminds me John Dean
during the Nixon impeachment,

2139
02:05:49,590 --> 02:05:52,920
where he I always tell people
this I used to when I was at the

2140
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:55,050
air pollution district, I had to
give a lot of testimony and we

2141
02:05:55,050 --> 02:05:59,160
learned a lot of these tricks.
This is a good one. And that's a

2142
02:05:59,160 --> 02:06:01,620
good one never heard that one
before. But my favourite one,

2143
02:06:01,620 --> 02:06:05,400
which is what John Dean used to
just do constantly, is that he

2144
02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:09,660
preface every answer with I'm
not sure I fully understand the

2145
02:06:09,660 --> 02:06:12,810
question, but Right, but this
has been you're off the hook.

2146
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:16,080
I don't think I can answer that
question in the abstract. Hi,

2147
02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:19,170
yes. So it's just beautiful.
It's beautiful to view. Thank

2148
02:06:19,170 --> 02:06:21,060
you. I'm keeping this for the
rest of my life.

2149
02:06:21,090 --> 02:06:23,490
I'm not sure I'm able to answer
that question in the abstract,

2150
02:06:23,490 --> 02:06:23,910
beautiful,

2151
02:06:23,940 --> 02:06:25,710
something we ought to think
about. Is it not? Oh, yes,

2152
02:06:25,710 --> 02:06:29,280
certainly. And so if there are
accomplices and purveying stolen

2153
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:30,870
information, shouldn't we be
concerned about

2154
02:06:30,870 --> 02:06:34,410
that? We should be concerned
about all the facts surrounding

2155
02:06:34,410 --> 02:06:36,150
the theft of classified
information and its

2156
02:06:36,150 --> 02:06:36,900
promulgation.

2157
02:06:36,930 --> 02:06:40,170
Now, here. He's now Rogers is
about to say something very

2158
02:06:40,170 --> 02:06:45,030
interesting. All these guys went
to the big security conference

2159
02:06:45,060 --> 02:06:49,410
in I think it's Munich. It's
every year every other year, and

2160
02:06:49,410 --> 02:06:52,380
this everybody goes all the
intelligence all the spooks are

2161
02:06:52,380 --> 02:06:53,070
in Germany.

2162
02:06:54,059 --> 02:06:58,829
And interestingly, over the,
again, the Munich conference

2163
02:06:58,829 --> 02:07:01,859
where we had individuals tell us
that in fact, there are

2164
02:07:01,889 --> 02:07:04,439
individuals who were saying to
be in possession of this

2165
02:07:04,439 --> 02:07:08,069
information or eager to sell
this information to other news

2166
02:07:08,069 --> 02:07:11,969
organisation Poydras Applebaum
is would that be a legitimate

2167
02:07:14,519 --> 02:07:16,649
exercise on behalf of a
reporter?

2168
02:07:17,490 --> 02:07:19,470
That's a question now you're
getting from the general to the

2169
02:07:19,470 --> 02:07:21,660
particular I don't want to talk
about the case in particular,

2170
02:07:21,660 --> 02:07:23,370
because it's an active
investigation of ours.

2171
02:07:23,730 --> 02:07:27,630
It's an active investigation for
accomplices brokering and stolen

2172
02:07:27,630 --> 02:07:28,200
information.

2173
02:07:28,560 --> 02:07:31,560
We are looking at the totality
of the circumstances around the

2174
02:07:31,620 --> 02:07:32,940
theft and promulgation.

2175
02:07:32,970 --> 02:07:33,870
That's very interesting.

2176
02:07:33,990 --> 02:07:38,760
That's very interesting. It's a
common so this is going to

2177
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:42,810
define what when you are a
journalist who is a journalist

2178
02:07:42,810 --> 02:07:47,160
and when you are hogging stolen
information

2179
02:07:49,800 --> 02:07:53,820
the setup is beautiful they're
out to get Glenn Greenwald for

2180
02:07:53,820 --> 02:07:54,240
sure. I

2181
02:07:54,240 --> 02:07:56,670
don't know if they're out to get
him. I don't I'm not so sure

2182
02:07:56,700 --> 02:07:59,790
they need him. Keith, I think
Greenwald is going to get the

2183
02:07:59,790 --> 02:08:03,810
licence Greenwald will be
licenced but they're gonna

2184
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:06,870
they're gonna have to screw
someone. I hope it's Applebaum.

2185
02:08:06,900 --> 02:08:08,280
Oh, God, I hope they take him

2186
02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:11,790
sure. I think I think they're
now you really think

2187
02:08:11,790 --> 02:08:13,230
that they're gonna nail
Greenwald?

2188
02:08:13,710 --> 02:08:16,920
I think they want to, because if
you listen to enough of these

2189
02:08:16,920 --> 02:08:19,530
hearings are always bitching
about this. We're talking about

2190
02:08:19,530 --> 02:08:23,040
the green wall. And green was
the one that was listed in strat

2191
02:08:23,040 --> 02:08:27,660
for as a guy you gotta get Okay.
Remember that? Yeah.

2192
02:08:28,980 --> 02:08:31,290
I you know, it doesn't really
matter. They're still the

2193
02:08:31,290 --> 02:08:35,730
assault is still on to determine
who is who is allowed to report

2194
02:08:35,730 --> 02:08:37,980
and who's not allowed to report
that's essentially where it's

2195
02:08:37,980 --> 02:08:39,240
going to where it's going to go.

2196
02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:43,530
That's the long term. That's the
long game. But let's make a few

2197
02:08:43,530 --> 02:08:46,200
examples out of some guys over
at it. Yeah. Do you want to

2198
02:08:46,200 --> 02:08:47,460
steal this stuff? Find

2199
02:08:47,910 --> 02:08:49,290
out what those podcasters

2200
02:08:50,610 --> 02:08:53,460
but again, we don't know
anything. All we do is analyse.

2201
02:08:54,030 --> 02:09:04,710
I saw that there's a new podcast
network called Radio topia. And

2202
02:09:04,710 --> 02:09:11,100
they are being financed by the
Knight Foundation. Starting off

2203
02:09:11,100 --> 02:09:20,970
with $200,000 This is you know
how come they don't sponsor us?

2204
02:09:22,380 --> 02:09:23,310
For good reason?

2205
02:09:25,110 --> 02:09:29,100
Yeah. PRX the online marketplace
for public media.

2206
02:09:29,460 --> 02:09:32,970
Saul just say they're sponsoring
people. They will do their

2207
02:09:32,970 --> 02:09:33,480
bidding.

2208
02:09:33,509 --> 02:09:38,549
Yeah, exactly. And the new
entrant the new hire at first

2209
02:09:38,549 --> 02:09:44,999
look media Pierre Oh my dark
drive my car and Granberry Well,

2210
02:09:45,449 --> 02:09:49,049
the new guy the new guy any idea
new new guy? You're gonna love

2211
02:09:49,049 --> 02:09:50,459
it. Oh, who Andy carbon,

2212
02:09:51,089 --> 02:09:54,389
though. Wow. Put that in the Red
Book who was should have

2213
02:09:54,389 --> 02:09:55,319
predicted we should have

2214
02:09:55,320 --> 02:09:58,080
done that. I didn't. Apparently
he took the buyout from NPR. I

2215
02:09:58,080 --> 02:10:01,710
didn't even know that they had
to cut staff and so they gave me

2216
02:10:01,710 --> 02:10:04,920
the offered him a buyout and he
took it. So he took the buyout

2217
02:10:04,950 --> 02:10:09,360
and he took the new job at the
baby. You can dry my cars place.

2218
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:13,350
Wow. Yeah. Well, that's a catch.
Yeah,

2219
02:10:13,500 --> 02:10:16,650
that's going to it's going to be
very interesting. This is it's

2220
02:10:16,650 --> 02:10:21,480
probably, it's almost like a
honeypot for douchebags. Blow

2221
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:23,580
that thing up, eventually just
get rid of everybody.

2222
02:10:24,090 --> 02:10:26,130
I'm gonna show my school by
donating to

2223
02:10:26,130 --> 02:10:29,190
no agenda. Imagine all the
people who could do that. Oh,

2224
02:10:29,190 --> 02:10:30,090
yeah, that'd be fun.

2225
02:10:38,850 --> 02:10:41,040
Whoa, what happened? I don't
know.

2226
02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:45,870
So they have a note from
somebody before I get to my

2227
02:10:45,870 --> 02:10:49,620
names here. They're getting
close. Just wanted to pass along

2228
02:10:49,620 --> 02:10:52,800
an observation about native
advertising. This anonymous

2229
02:10:52,830 --> 02:10:58,470
producer says the two of you
seem to be so against it as I

2230
02:10:58,470 --> 02:11:03,810
am. But I find it interesting.
How you to manage to insert into

2231
02:11:03,810 --> 02:11:09,360
every show or so it seems. I
think it was mentioned once in

2232
02:11:09,360 --> 02:11:15,270
seven years. Comments promoting
the Amazon Kindle. Yeah, this

2233
02:11:15,270 --> 02:11:19,230
was a really, this was really
bad if you episodes ago and John

2234
02:11:19,230 --> 02:11:24,090
went on and on about how great
it is to read books on the new

2235
02:11:24,090 --> 02:11:30,960
Kindle Paperwhite. So just what
is Amazon going to, to exchange

2236
02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:34,380
for all this? free shipping on
your mac and cheese? I free

2237
02:11:34,380 --> 02:11:40,800
shipping anywhere. I'm a member
of Amazon Prime. Now, I sent a

2238
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:41,940
note you sent a note you just

2239
02:11:43,260 --> 02:11:47,550
didn't say that. I said like I
said, this is because he says

2240
02:11:47,550 --> 02:11:50,250
not an OS is not an observation.
It's an insult. And I take and

2241
02:11:50,250 --> 02:11:51,420
I'm offended by it.

2242
02:11:51,450 --> 02:11:53,730
Yeah, you were offended. By the
way I said, I just want to say

2243
02:11:53,730 --> 02:11:57,300
something about this. Because
the fact that we don't have

2244
02:11:57,300 --> 02:11:59,940
advertising the fact that we're
not doing native advertising,

2245
02:11:59,940 --> 02:12:04,140
we're not taking any money from
anybody like that allows us to

2246
02:12:04,140 --> 02:12:07,770
say what we think and I like the
Kindle Paperwhite. And I can

2247
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:11,910
honestly say it, I'm not
sponsored by nook, that mate

2248
02:12:11,910 --> 02:12:14,610
would tell me not to say this.
So I'm not sponsored by Amazon

2249
02:12:14,610 --> 02:12:17,610
ever told me to pump it more or
to put down or to give a model

2250
02:12:17,610 --> 02:12:19,170
number or who knows what they
do, or

2251
02:12:19,170 --> 02:12:21,510
even audible who would be
against the whole idea of

2252
02:12:21,510 --> 02:12:22,590
reading in general,

2253
02:12:23,160 --> 02:12:26,460
especially on the Amazon Kindles
which have a little button you

2254
02:12:26,460 --> 02:12:32,340
can push it or read the book for
Yeah. So anyway, the the freedom

2255
02:12:32,340 --> 02:12:35,880
of being able to say what I want
about all these products, and I

2256
02:12:35,910 --> 02:12:38,610
don't do it that often. But once
in a while I do like a product.

2257
02:12:38,610 --> 02:12:42,810
And this one is one of them. Is
is the reason that this model

2258
02:12:42,810 --> 02:12:46,080
worked so well. And I want to
remind people of that. And it's

2259
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:49,650
really shameful that somebody
would think the opposite, as

2260
02:12:49,680 --> 02:12:51,270
though be a joke,

2261
02:12:51,300 --> 02:12:55,080
even as a joke. Sorry, even as a
joke. It's nice, even

2262
02:12:55,080 --> 02:12:57,750
as a joke. Because if we
completely if you're completely

2263
02:12:57,750 --> 02:13:02,250
sponsored by individuals, are we
not supposed to talk about any

2264
02:13:02,250 --> 02:13:05,610
product in a product oriented
universe? Is that what you're

2265
02:13:05,610 --> 02:13:09,810
saying? So we can't mention
anything? Oh, gee, I got my car,

2266
02:13:09,810 --> 02:13:12,870
what kind of car you drive? I
can't say because because

2267
02:13:12,870 --> 02:13:15,690
they're not giving me money. So
I can't talk about it. It just

2268
02:13:15,690 --> 02:13:19,890
really, I found the whole thing
to be that sort of attitude. By

2269
02:13:19,890 --> 02:13:22,260
the way. That's not the first
guy that brought this this stuff

2270
02:13:22,260 --> 02:13:24,900
up about native advertising that
they're, well, you're plugging

2271
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:28,170
you plugged the guy's website
when he when he gave you a

2272
02:13:28,170 --> 02:13:33,300
donation of $100. That kind of
guy. You get a clue people

2273
02:13:33,330 --> 02:13:36,990
but that's not exactly how he
sounds. You're not doing that

2274
02:13:36,990 --> 02:13:40,650
part, right. I'm sorry. Oh,
you're not doing the guy, right.

2275
02:13:41,160 --> 02:13:45,510
I know. You have the guy's voice
down. I see you plugging the

2276
02:13:45,510 --> 02:13:49,500
guy's website. You. You said you
do take advertising. That's the

2277
02:13:49,500 --> 02:13:51,780
guy. That's the guy. Yeah, your
voice is a little better for

2278
02:13:51,780 --> 02:13:55,170
that. Yeah. But we have a few
people thank James Rocco in

2279
02:13:55,170 --> 02:13:59,760
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.
12345. Just says he wants some

2280
02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:02,220
karma at the end. We'll give him
and everybody else some karma

2281
02:14:02,310 --> 02:14:09,810
late. Matthew Leigh Leigh, in
London, UK $111.11. So we're

2282
02:14:09,810 --> 02:14:12,180
gonna make a second donation in
more ways than one first to

2283
02:14:12,180 --> 02:14:15,780
receive some brand karmas or
drummer and lead guitar. lead

2284
02:14:15,780 --> 02:14:18,570
guitars are currently not on
good terms.

2285
02:14:18,600 --> 02:14:23,730
This is bad. This is bad. We can
try. Bad karma is hard.

2286
02:14:23,820 --> 02:14:27,090
No, no, that bad karma doesn't
work. Wait a minute, hold on.

2287
02:14:27,300 --> 02:14:29,640
Secondly, I want to add a little
incentive to keep the rainstick

2288
02:14:29,640 --> 02:14:33,540
alive and well. We got to use in
a minute. You make my sleazy

2289
02:14:33,540 --> 02:14:37,140
call out to Rhema the woman who
okay we'll put them on shears on

2290
02:14:37,140 --> 02:14:39,000
the list. We'll call out
randomly when next time we do

2291
02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:39,510
the dance.

2292
02:14:39,540 --> 02:14:43,710
Now. I'm a little I'm not sure
what to do here because there

2293
02:14:43,710 --> 02:14:50,130
are conflicting reports about
the rainstick I get emails from

2294
02:14:50,130 --> 02:14:52,020
people who are begging us to
stop.

2295
02:14:52,320 --> 02:14:54,450
Well, I need to we need the rain
here.

2296
02:14:55,530 --> 02:14:59,010
And I think I had my rainstick
pointed the wrong way. So I

2297
02:14:59,010 --> 02:15:00,960
think that would that's what how
happened that it showed up in

2298
02:15:00,960 --> 02:15:01,770
other spots.

2299
02:15:02,010 --> 02:15:06,420
We'll do it after the show.
Okay. I don't know about the

2300
02:15:06,420 --> 02:15:07,470
band What are you gonna do you
want to

2301
02:15:08,459 --> 02:15:10,499
have it let's give it a shot so
you can get some bad karma

2302
02:15:10,499 --> 02:15:13,169
going. You've got karma never
know.

2303
02:15:13,709 --> 02:15:15,989
And at the end of the day job
karma with the job for

2304
02:15:15,989 --> 02:15:19,109
everybody. Yeah. Because there's
a lot of requests for that David

2305
02:15:19,109 --> 02:15:23,489
Rossa in Clarkston, Michigan
$111.11 What band is this man is

2306
02:15:23,489 --> 02:15:27,179
Matthew in you know IDEA says
I'm coming in rather low we have

2307
02:15:27,179 --> 02:15:30,539
a lot of band guys that listen
to the show. Since I'm coming in

2308
02:15:30,539 --> 02:15:32,999
rather low on the donation I'd
love to get read.

2309
02:15:33,179 --> 02:15:35,399
Are you guys you're gonna read I
don't read everything it's

2310
02:15:38,220 --> 02:15:41,490
and I'm just looking for the
name is Tony. Tony, Tony. Okay,

2311
02:15:41,490 --> 02:15:45,840
Tony is coming up. Not today.
Michael Bramble in Taylorsville,

2312
02:15:45,840 --> 02:15:49,530
Utah. He's got a nobody coming
in.

2313
02:15:50,430 --> 02:15:53,790
He's just about 111 11 He's
making it rain just didn't put

2314
02:15:53,790 --> 02:15:54,960
anybody on the list.

2315
02:15:55,140 --> 02:15:57,600
Maybe you should. Michael sent
us an email some email. Yep.

2316
02:15:57,870 --> 02:16:03,240
Mike or Nicola chuck in
Saskatoon at Paris of Canada

2317
02:16:03,600 --> 02:16:06,420
111 11 cents. And is there

2318
02:16:07,050 --> 02:16:10,410
his ex is Lisa and Amy to the
stage branch.

2319
02:16:11,730 --> 02:16:17,880
Kristin Zachman villas wages
Nevada 7777 Paul Webb $75 and

2320
02:16:17,880 --> 02:16:21,540
tweak Twickenham. We get some UK
people this week this show for

2321
02:16:21,540 --> 02:16:22,320
some reason.

2322
02:16:23,640 --> 02:16:26,070
Because it's horrible weather.
It's raining and everyone's

2323
02:16:26,070 --> 02:16:27,420
indoors listening to the show.

2324
02:16:28,050 --> 02:16:30,330
I got to play the report from
Ireland they're going to have

2325
02:16:30,360 --> 02:16:32,490
like a huge storm and its
founding

2326
02:16:33,450 --> 02:16:35,760
6969

2327
02:16:37,469 --> 02:16:41,849
Niners today including Brian
Brown and Orange California Chad

2328
02:16:41,849 --> 02:16:46,019
biderman Biederman in Round
Lake, Illinois, Timothy Nessie

2329
02:16:46,289 --> 02:16:51,509
in Whitby, Ontario, Edward Hines
in Jacksonville, Florida Thomas

2330
02:16:53,370 --> 02:16:55,770
butter Butterick Butterick

2331
02:16:56,010 --> 02:17:00,150
Semper Fi in Flushing, Michigan,
and then that's what close

2332
02:17:00,180 --> 02:17:03,690
you missed. For some I don't
know how you missed John Heller

2333
02:17:03,690 --> 02:17:05,340
there from Missoula.

2334
02:17:05,490 --> 02:17:08,130
Oh, I didn't miss John Heller is
at the top is from Missoula,

2335
02:17:08,130 --> 02:17:08,850
Montana.

2336
02:17:09,150 --> 02:17:14,730
69 6960 969 dudes.com

2337
02:17:14,730 --> 02:17:17,370
and that is your Swasey enough
karma. I should get you laid.

2338
02:17:19,200 --> 02:17:25,470
Been blessing $69 flat. Russell
road 6789. Tallahassee Florida

2339
02:17:25,470 --> 02:17:28,980
game show, I like that. I like
Bazian chalazia.

2340
02:17:29,010 --> 02:17:31,770
I like 6789 That's also a nice
donation number

2341
02:17:32,129 --> 02:17:37,409
6789. Yes, I like it. 6789 and
must mean something. 6666

2342
02:17:37,409 --> 02:17:40,739
Irvine, California from game,
Sergeant Fred Austin, Texas.

2343
02:17:40,739 --> 02:17:41,189
Your buddy.

2344
02:17:41,219 --> 02:17:45,839
I have a note. I have a note I
met with Yeah, I met with

2345
02:17:45,839 --> 02:17:48,959
Sergeant Fred. He always gives
us a cash donation. Sergeant

2346
02:17:48,959 --> 02:17:55,049
Fred is a Vietnam veteran. And
the lives around here and he's a

2347
02:17:55,049 --> 02:17:58,019
great guy. He's always doing
everything for the show. And I

2348
02:17:58,019 --> 02:18:00,869
want to read his note, Adam in
the morning, getting great value

2349
02:18:00,869 --> 02:18:02,939
from the best podcast in the
universe. Thank you for your

2350
02:18:02,939 --> 02:18:06,719
courage. How about some karma
for those underpaid, overworked

2351
02:18:06,719 --> 02:18:11,579
and stressed out combat infantry
men, and the airborne Rangers

2352
02:18:11,609 --> 02:18:15,119
that were that are always in
harm's way but forgotten by the

2353
02:18:15,119 --> 02:18:19,709
douchebag elites and
legislators. Thanks for all your

2354
02:18:19,709 --> 02:18:24,149
quality work. Also, how about an
F cancer for all of the

2355
02:18:24,179 --> 02:18:29,339
complications from Agent Orange
to our Vietnam veterans. And I

2356
02:18:29,339 --> 02:18:32,429
tell you, if you ever have a
chance You should grab a beer

2357
02:18:32,429 --> 02:18:35,939
with a veteran. a Vietnam
veteran is even better if you

2358
02:18:35,939 --> 02:18:39,389
can get one of those if they're
not dead yet. Get one and they

2359
02:18:39,389 --> 02:18:43,979
tell you your comms one you want
to you want to seriously have

2360
02:18:43,979 --> 02:18:47,579
your life altered and have your
brain changed. When they really

2361
02:18:47,579 --> 02:18:50,279
start to talk that it'll make
you think a little different

2362
02:18:50,279 --> 02:18:54,449
about about the football games.
So anyway, thank you very much,

2363
02:18:54,449 --> 02:18:56,759
Sergeant Fred double nickels on
the dime and I will hand out the

2364
02:18:56,759 --> 02:19:03,779
karma as requested to you and
all other karma

2365
02:19:06,270 --> 02:19:12,930
tied to wrath camp in Ripon,
Wisconsin 55. Robert lit love.

2366
02:19:13,410 --> 02:19:17,940
Orlando, Florida $52. And now
these are all $50 donations.

2367
02:19:17,940 --> 02:19:20,220
We'll wrap it up with Cory
Bennett in Antioch California

2368
02:19:20,220 --> 02:19:26,310
Christopher Walker 50. Dominic
Doron in Atlanta, Georgia

2369
02:19:26,310 --> 02:19:33,180
Matthew Jenna zu ski in Chicago,
Chicago, Patrick maqam MATCOM in

2370
02:19:33,180 --> 02:19:39,930
Mount Vernon, New York, Dan Greg
GreB. In Lansdale, Pennsylvania,

2371
02:19:40,470 --> 02:19:46,470
Brett Farrell a regular on in
Oklahoma City. Wrap it up for

2372
02:19:46,500 --> 02:19:52,560
donations for show 589 11 shows
to go we'll be at show 600

2373
02:19:52,590 --> 02:19:55,980
Are we doing a special 600 club
are we is there something that

2374
02:19:55,980 --> 02:19:56,130
was

2375
02:19:56,130 --> 02:19:59,730
in the news? You don't read the
newsletter? I forgot. I was so

2376
02:19:59,730 --> 02:20:02,490
we're doing The 600 Club yeah a
celebration club you get a

2377
02:20:02,490 --> 02:20:05,280
double producer credit you get
the credit when you give this

2378
02:20:05,310 --> 02:20:08,850
when you donate 600 and also
goes to knighthood Of course,

2379
02:20:09,000 --> 02:20:12,060
and then you get and second
credit on show 600 So you get

2380
02:20:12,060 --> 02:20:13,980
two things you can put in your
IMDB

2381
02:20:14,430 --> 02:20:19,380
nice and of course you get to
celebrate 600 episodes are the

2382
02:20:19,380 --> 02:20:23,460
best podcast in the universe and
please think about us and what

2383
02:20:23,460 --> 02:20:26,400
we're doing for your Sunday show
that Sundays for some reason I

2384
02:20:26,400 --> 02:20:29,370
don't know if it's the time a
year if it's I don't know what

2385
02:20:29,370 --> 02:20:31,290
it is. I have no idea what's
going on but Sunday's have been

2386
02:20:31,290 --> 02:20:35,490
hard for us. And I don't like
the yo yo lifestyle if you know

2387
02:20:35,490 --> 02:20:41,520
what I mean. So please go to
borak.org/and a

2388
02:20:48,930 --> 02:20:53,070
Joseph gays celebrates on the
eighth two days from now and we

2389
02:20:53,070 --> 02:20:55,770
say happy birthday to him. Eric
Brown says Happy Birthday to his

2390
02:20:55,770 --> 02:21:00,390
twins Namie and Noah they turn
six tomorrow and Russell Rhodes

2391
02:21:00,390 --> 02:21:05,340
has Happy Birthday to his son
Vikram turns four on February 8,

2392
02:21:05,340 --> 02:21:08,010
hope you're recording this.
Happy Birthday three buddies,

2393
02:21:08,010 --> 02:21:14,790
you had the best podcast in the
universe. And then we have two

2394
02:21:14,790 --> 02:21:18,090
nice things while one knighting
and a Daming, which is always

2395
02:21:18,090 --> 02:21:23,160
nice. So if you can just grab
your sword. Yeah, you're very

2396
02:21:23,160 --> 02:21:27,090
good to the stage please. Becky
Bressler. I'm sorry, it's a

2397
02:21:27,090 --> 02:21:30,330
different segment to the
roundtable, Becky Bressler and

2398
02:21:30,330 --> 02:21:35,730
Joseph case. Both of you have
supported the no agenda show in

2399
02:21:35,730 --> 02:21:38,310
the amount of $1,000 or more and
therefore we are very proud to

2400
02:21:38,310 --> 02:21:40,350
welcome you to the roundtable
the knights and the names and

2401
02:21:40,350 --> 02:21:44,100
hereby pronounce these Sir
Joseph gays and Dame Becky

2402
02:21:44,100 --> 02:21:46,680
Bressler Knight and Dame with an
origin roundtable for you. We've

2403
02:21:46,680 --> 02:21:49,890
got hookers and blow rent boys
in Chardonnay. Three games has a

2404
02:21:49,890 --> 02:21:52,230
bucket of chicken fried chicken,
Cuban cigars and single malt

2405
02:21:52,230 --> 02:21:55,470
scotch, cannabis and Cabernet,
Bok and vanilla bong hits and

2406
02:21:55,470 --> 02:21:58,950
bourbon or maybe just a mutton
and Mead and go to Georgia

2407
02:21:58,950 --> 02:22:03,150
nation.com/rings. Pick them up.
And of course, Becky received

2408
02:22:03,150 --> 02:22:06,840
that from your wonderful night.
So now both of you can take a

2409
02:22:06,840 --> 02:22:09,780
seat at the table and you could
hit each other in the mouth you

2410
02:22:09,780 --> 02:22:15,540
can do you can gang up on people
and do mouth headings. It's

2411
02:22:15,540 --> 02:22:17,940
beautiful when it's in the
family, I really appreciate

2412
02:22:17,940 --> 02:22:28,440
that. Okay, I've been tracking
Euro land a little bit. As of

2413
02:22:28,440 --> 02:22:33,420
course, the reason to track it
is we have a big European, the

2414
02:22:33,450 --> 02:22:36,630
elections coming up in a couple
of months, a lot of different

2415
02:22:36,630 --> 02:22:40,830
things are happening and a deal
has finally been reached. And

2416
02:22:40,830 --> 02:22:45,990
this is what I was most
interested in on the bailing of

2417
02:22:45,990 --> 02:22:52,110
the banks. You recall that this
was tested in Cyprus was a

2418
02:22:52,110 --> 02:22:56,220
Cyprus Yeah, with Cyprus. And
now the European Parliament and

2419
02:22:56,460 --> 02:23:00,600
council presidency negotiators
reached an agreement yesterday

2420
02:23:01,590 --> 02:23:06,510
on the bank Recovery and
Resolution Directive. And the

2421
02:23:06,510 --> 02:23:09,810
idea is that this will be the
bail in principle instead of

2422
02:23:09,810 --> 02:23:12,360
bail out principles. So the
first people who would get

2423
02:23:12,360 --> 02:23:18,090
screwed by due to a bank failure
would be shareholders and

2424
02:23:18,090 --> 02:23:24,210
creditors, before the public
uses tax money, which has been

2425
02:23:24,240 --> 02:23:27,870
the case for the past. What is
it now five, six years,

2426
02:23:28,230 --> 02:23:32,010
particularly in the Netherlands,
I might point out, here's the

2427
02:23:32,010 --> 02:23:39,900
rub. This does not go into
effect until January 2016. And a

2428
02:23:39,900 --> 02:23:46,230
lot could happen before then. As
it turns out, only six banks in

2429
02:23:46,230 --> 02:23:52,170
the EU have almost $2 trillion
worth of exposure. In the

2430
02:23:52,170 --> 02:23:56,970
emerging markets total value is
3.4 trillion. This of course, is

2431
02:23:56,970 --> 02:24:01,380
the Argentina, Turkey. What
other countries that we have

2432
02:24:01,380 --> 02:24:04,650
that are screwed up? I mean,
didn't Argentina de venezuela

2433
02:24:04,680 --> 02:24:08,070
This is out as completely I
think Venezuela is a huge

2434
02:24:08,070 --> 02:24:11,280
problem. Is this like it's just
coming apart? It's like a basket

2435
02:24:11,280 --> 02:24:11,760
case?

2436
02:24:11,850 --> 02:24:14,100
Yeah, well, it was poorly
managed.

2437
02:24:14,700 --> 02:24:18,690
And so these banks have all
these have loaned all this money

2438
02:24:18,690 --> 02:24:22,530
to these emerging markets. And I
presume the only the only thing

2439
02:24:22,530 --> 02:24:26,580
for them to do now is to inflate
their money in order to print

2440
02:24:26,580 --> 02:24:30,660
more to pay it back. But I think
this is why we're seeing all

2441
02:24:30,660 --> 02:24:34,290
kinds of it's not just the Feds
10 billion less tapering. I

2442
02:24:34,290 --> 02:24:36,390
think that there's a real
problem with the European banks

2443
02:24:36,390 --> 02:24:39,960
if you and Horowitz any
discussions about this? No. I'd

2444
02:24:39,990 --> 02:24:44,400
be very curious to hear what he
has to say. All right. And I

2445
02:24:44,400 --> 02:24:48,630
think that this bail in
directive is a great idea, but

2446
02:24:48,630 --> 02:24:52,230
it's just kind of covering up
because it won't go in into

2447
02:24:52,230 --> 02:24:56,490
effect until 2016. I think we
could see some real problems

2448
02:24:56,490 --> 02:24:59,970
with the big European banks in
the next year even more

2449
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:01,530
Well, they're pretty good at
juggling.

2450
02:25:02,580 --> 02:25:05,160
If you can only juggle so much
until it just, oh, they

2451
02:25:05,160 --> 02:25:05,700
obviously can

2452
02:25:05,700 --> 02:25:08,790
juggle the 2016. Or they
wouldn't have gone for this. No,

2453
02:25:08,820 --> 02:25:10,410
that's the way I see I see
exactly

2454
02:25:10,410 --> 02:25:13,620
the opposite. They push it off
to 20 to 2016 because it's going

2455
02:25:13,620 --> 02:25:16,620
to happen before then. Which
means it'll be taxpayers money.

2456
02:25:16,650 --> 02:25:17,610
That's what I'm thinking.

2457
02:25:17,730 --> 02:25:21,300
No, that's that's a good logic.
I like it. Yeah, stick the

2458
02:25:21,300 --> 02:25:25,950
taxpayers. Yeah. Well, the
European taxpayers are screwed.

2459
02:25:29,040 --> 02:25:31,530
There's no doubt about it.
There's all this crap going on.

2460
02:25:31,890 --> 02:25:34,890
Can you play a little clip this
logistics crazy clip from

2461
02:25:34,890 --> 02:25:38,670
Ireland from I don't know, I
shouldn't be watching this Irish

2462
02:25:38,670 --> 02:25:43,050
news. It's actually Irish news.
But the 14 inches of rain

2463
02:25:43,080 --> 02:25:47,280
next to their property. Since
early morning. Cork City has

2464
02:25:47,280 --> 02:25:51,060
been preparing for what is
expected to be the worst flood

2465
02:25:51,180 --> 02:25:52,380
in many years.

2466
02:25:53,070 --> 02:25:55,530
There is a lot of apprehension
we've all come in with Malibu to

2467
02:25:55,530 --> 02:25:58,380
snow this morning. Preparation
for this evening, because

2468
02:25:58,380 --> 02:26:01,260
yesterday morning was absolutely
horrific. And the water was

2469
02:26:01,500 --> 02:26:03,990
very, very high on again, it was
experienced the height of the

2470
02:26:03,990 --> 02:26:04,500
water.

2471
02:26:04,920 --> 02:26:08,670
And the memory of yesterday's
floods were still vivid. Rose

2472
02:26:08,670 --> 02:26:12,450
Cronin is just one trader that
got hit. And she only opened her

2473
02:26:12,450 --> 02:26:15,390
business before Christmas. We
were expecting wash to come into

2474
02:26:15,390 --> 02:26:18,150
vogue 12 or 14 inches tonight.
That's what the expectation is.

2475
02:26:18,540 --> 02:26:22,560
So I got clear on my stock. No,
I appreciate it. This is not so

2476
02:26:22,560 --> 02:26:29,670
good. 14 inches. That is a lot
of rain. So South American

2477
02:26:29,670 --> 02:26:31,590
style, you know, rain forest,

2478
02:26:31,860 --> 02:26:35,370
there's all kinds of stuff
happening in the UK. There's

2479
02:26:35,400 --> 02:26:37,740
train tracks washing out and
yeah,

2480
02:26:38,010 --> 02:26:39,690
Cornwall's being washed away.

2481
02:26:39,720 --> 02:26:40,560
So hold on a second

2482
02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:48,690
there you go Ireland.

2483
02:26:53,970 --> 02:26:57,300
From the Hillary, no one's who
by the way, I don't believe

2484
02:26:57,300 --> 02:27:01,650
anyone's ever used the effects
of a rain stick on a podcast or

2485
02:27:01,650 --> 02:27:05,250
a broadcast that so it's just
not localised. In other words,

2486
02:27:05,250 --> 02:27:09,090
we're not just the noise is not
just a local noise. You know,

2487
02:27:09,090 --> 02:27:12,300
this magical noise. It's
actually being good showing up

2488
02:27:12,300 --> 02:27:14,880
everywhere. It may be maybe
dangerous thing to do. We should

2489
02:27:14,880 --> 02:27:15,750
probably stop.

2490
02:27:16,050 --> 02:27:18,420
We should consult the manual
perhaps.

2491
02:27:19,800 --> 02:27:22,110
Well, I don't I didn't get a
manual mind.

2492
02:27:24,480 --> 02:27:30,180
From the Hillary 2016 department
never ceases to amaze. First of

2493
02:27:30,180 --> 02:27:33,030
all, someone put a I'm ready for
Hillary bumper sticker in my

2494
02:27:33,030 --> 02:27:37,140
mailbox. All right. I'm looking
at you Armando. I bet you I

2495
02:27:37,140 --> 02:27:39,390
think there's the mailman. I
think he's playing a joke on me

2496
02:27:39,390 --> 02:27:41,820
like yeah, I'm sure yeah. That
was funny.

2497
02:27:42,270 --> 02:27:43,800
When I said what to me, me.

2498
02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:48,360
Have you followed this? Tom
Sizemore Elizabeth Hurley Bill

2499
02:27:48,360 --> 02:27:52,410
Clinton story? No, this is
great. Because this actor I'd

2500
02:27:52,410 --> 02:27:54,330
never heard of and Tom Sizemore.
Yeah, he's

2501
02:27:54,330 --> 02:27:57,030
famous. He is. Yeah, well,

2502
02:27:57,090 --> 02:28:02,280
so he there's a tape of him the
tape is now it's all transcribed

2503
02:28:02,280 --> 02:28:04,470
and I didn't want to get
anything is not worth a clip.

2504
02:28:04,890 --> 02:28:08,280
But he essentially is talking
about how he introduced

2505
02:28:08,310 --> 02:28:11,310
Elizabeth Hurley to Bill
Clinton. The and how Bill

2506
02:28:11,310 --> 02:28:14,730
Clinton like pushed them into a
corner and said, you know, give

2507
02:28:14,730 --> 02:28:17,460
me her number. I'm the I'm the
commander in chief. I'm gonna

2508
02:28:17,490 --> 02:28:19,560
fucking kill you if you don't
give me this was when he was

2509
02:28:19,560 --> 02:28:26,310
president. Yes. And, and, and so
he they sent a plane for Hurley

2510
02:28:26,910 --> 02:28:29,610
and she got on the plane with an
hour flew down the White House

2511
02:28:29,760 --> 02:28:33,810
and was there for four days. And
Bill was just ravishing the crap

2512
02:28:33,810 --> 02:28:38,220
out of her for four days. And
it's now sighs Moore's taking it

2513
02:28:38,220 --> 02:28:41,400
all back. And it's but it's,
it's really Yeah, sure with a

2514
02:28:41,400 --> 02:28:44,400
gun to his head. Yeah, but it's
hilarious. I love this. It makes

2515
02:28:44,400 --> 02:28:47,160
so much sense. And you see
pictures of Elizabeth Hurley and

2516
02:28:47,160 --> 02:28:53,550
Bill Clinton like yeah, he's
totally doing her. Just it's

2517
02:28:54,210 --> 02:28:56,070
everything is coming in and he
was one of his

2518
02:28:56,070 --> 02:28:59,820
heroes. They're doing anything
they can to it's just it's all

2519
02:28:59,820 --> 02:29:01,890
starting now. It's going to be
resolved part

2520
02:29:01,890 --> 02:29:04,320
of this is campaigning Yes, of
course it is. It's it's gonna

2521
02:29:04,320 --> 02:29:07,110
somebody has to do this. There
are people that would like to

2522
02:29:07,110 --> 02:29:11,190
get that job and may not like
Hillary getting the job and so

2523
02:29:11,190 --> 02:29:14,670
the best way to get at Hillary
is the you know, as to embarrass

2524
02:29:14,670 --> 02:29:17,970
her because she's obviously
she's just makes her look like

2525
02:29:17,970 --> 02:29:20,400
well, she can't even keep
dragging her own household

2526
02:29:20,400 --> 02:29:23,430
what's going on? And why could
she be president she can't even

2527
02:29:23,430 --> 02:29:26,940
tell that we're all man is
screwing Elizabeth Hurley is not

2528
02:29:26,940 --> 02:29:30,480
as though she's Elizabeth her
he's not unrecognisable where's

2529
02:29:30,480 --> 02:29:34,890
the made so that's that's the
that's what the point of it is

2530
02:29:34,890 --> 02:29:37,740
obviously I fear for Bill
they're gonna have to kill him.

2531
02:29:37,740 --> 02:29:38,130
Yes.

2532
02:29:39,090 --> 02:29:41,550
That's what I was thinking like
I fear for Bill. This is not

2533
02:29:41,550 --> 02:29:42,600
good for his health.

2534
02:29:43,020 --> 02:29:46,200
But we predicted She's gonna
kill him for votes eventually.

2535
02:29:46,200 --> 02:29:49,350
But it may be soon you may win
because your bet was just going

2536
02:29:49,350 --> 02:29:53,700
to be before the election. Like
no, I was before the election

2537
02:29:53,700 --> 02:29:56,970
you I thought you were like this
year was like the next six

2538
02:29:56,970 --> 02:29:57,540
months.

2539
02:29:57,600 --> 02:30:00,000
Yeah, you might want to pull the
red book predictions because now

2540
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:02,610
I'm uncertain what the timing
was. I'll

2541
02:30:02,850 --> 02:30:06,420
dig it up. Whatever the case. I
will it's in the other I know

2542
02:30:06,420 --> 02:30:07,410
where I can find that one.

2543
02:30:08,400 --> 02:30:12,360
But I can it's just yeah, Bill
is in trouble. He's he needs to

2544
02:30:12,690 --> 02:30:14,430
lay very low for a while.

2545
02:30:15,509 --> 02:30:20,069
Elizabeth Hurley that Trump

2546
02:30:21,510 --> 02:30:26,220
Well, she is let's be honest, I
think she's always been looking

2547
02:30:26,220 --> 02:30:30,750
for the guy that would take care
of her the way this is my own. I

2548
02:30:30,750 --> 02:30:33,840
have no idea. I don't know.
Where's my perception? And it's

2549
02:30:33,840 --> 02:30:36,810
bad of me to think this but I've
always felt that she would go

2550
02:30:36,810 --> 02:30:39,660
for any guy that would take care
of her so she could do a roll

2551
02:30:39,660 --> 02:30:41,910
here and then she isn't she
married to that Indian guide and

2552
02:30:41,910 --> 02:30:43,650
she settle for an Indian guy at
the end.

2553
02:30:44,640 --> 02:30:47,550
That's a good question. Some
probably some rich guy person

2554
02:30:47,550 --> 02:30:50,310
was you know, it was her up on
the book of knowledge.

2555
02:30:52,320 --> 02:30:56,730
Please, I think she got married
to some Indian guy and find out

2556
02:30:57,120 --> 02:31:02,610
Get me some positioning.
Lizabeth hurry. Tom Sizemore

2557
02:31:02,610 --> 02:31:06,690
blames Hurley okay got that
part? Yeah. It's pretty early

2558
02:31:06,690 --> 02:31:10,140
denies bill. She's beautiful.
She's very sexy. And she's good

2559
02:31:10,140 --> 02:31:10,650
looking woman.

2560
02:31:10,740 --> 02:31:14,040
You got to Google the pictures
of her and Bill and she's like,

2561
02:31:14,070 --> 02:31:17,760
rubbing his back and so obvious

2562
02:31:19,110 --> 02:31:23,280
when she was last seen with
fashion designer Valentino at

2563
02:31:23,280 --> 02:31:26,370
the 2007 Cannes Film Festival.
Where's the say she's married.

2564
02:31:26,850 --> 02:31:30,960
Partner. She's guys partners,
and she had to grant a 2000 and

2565
02:31:30,960 --> 02:31:35,910
he ran off with a black woman
Shane wore worn Awa or

2566
02:31:36,420 --> 02:31:39,240
didn't you run off with a black
man? I thought I thought it was

2567
02:31:39,240 --> 02:31:43,020
a transsexual that he that he
was caught with wasn't a

2568
02:31:43,020 --> 02:31:43,650
transsexual

2569
02:31:43,650 --> 02:31:46,380
a black transaction was a black
person black hooker no as a

2570
02:31:46,380 --> 02:31:49,350
black hole cares about the
colour. All right, whatever.

2571
02:31:50,010 --> 02:31:54,060
Yeah, there you go. Take notes,
people. It's just a black guy

2572
02:31:54,090 --> 02:32:00,180
like chick. Let's see personal
life. She had a couple kids.

2573
02:32:01,710 --> 02:32:05,880
They're one at least male and
just by some casual guy.

2574
02:32:06,089 --> 02:32:09,329
The kids always get in the way
of screwing the president.

2575
02:32:10,199 --> 02:32:11,069
That's annoying.

2576
02:32:11,220 --> 02:32:14,220
Oh, here it was late. 2002.
Hurley you're just old news.

2577
02:32:14,460 --> 02:32:20,370
Curly stay started dating Indian
textile air era now er, run a

2578
02:32:20,370 --> 02:32:25,350
small software company since 98.
She likes nerds early and they

2579
02:32:25,350 --> 02:32:29,520
are married. They up? Okay, you
got me on this. They got married

2580
02:32:29,520 --> 02:32:34,620
at sudden Delhi castle in 2007
had a second traditional Hindu

2581
02:32:34,620 --> 02:32:38,970
wedding. Indian celebration
blah, blah, blah, really is net

2582
02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:43,320
Hurley, whose net worth is
estimated at 13 million pounds,

2583
02:32:44,070 --> 02:32:50,250
raised a 200 acre she really
resided on a 200 acre or an acre

2584
02:32:50,250 --> 02:32:54,090
organic farm and bambas Lee
Glauser glocester off. All

2585
02:32:54,090 --> 02:32:54,450
right,

2586
02:32:54,509 --> 02:32:56,159
I don't think I care that much
anymore.

2587
02:32:56,460 --> 02:32:58,140
I'm just trying to figure out
she's married. Still married to

2588
02:32:58,140 --> 02:33:00,840
this guy can't tell. Alright,
whatever.

2589
02:33:01,920 --> 02:33:03,240
I heard a very interesting

2590
02:33:04,470 --> 02:33:07,560
divorced him into Tesla, no cow.
Okay, so she got some money

2591
02:33:07,560 --> 02:33:13,200
and but the whole bill thing was
much earlier. Yeah. I was

2592
02:33:13,200 --> 02:33:15,990
listening to this thing. On I
was stuck in traffic. The other

2593
02:33:15,990 --> 02:33:20,280
day, I was listening to NPR and
I think was fresh air with Terry

2594
02:33:20,280 --> 02:33:24,330
Gross, fresh air. And she added
this author on a book about

2595
02:33:24,360 --> 02:33:29,940
things like the the joy, all joy
and no fun of having children.

2596
02:33:31,200 --> 02:33:35,100
It's just this Hurley thing
reminded me of that. And all

2597
02:33:35,100 --> 02:33:40,860
studies point to the fact that
the children have chained

2598
02:33:40,950 --> 02:33:44,190
Parenthood has changed in the
past, like two generations,

2599
02:33:44,640 --> 02:33:48,750
where kids used to be an
economic plus to the family. We

2600
02:33:48,750 --> 02:33:51,480
have some kids and you put them
to work. Yeah, make them do

2601
02:33:51,480 --> 02:33:56,160
something. Yeah. But now, it has
turned around into they've

2602
02:33:56,160 --> 02:33:59,430
become this incredible burden.
And we have to ensure their

2603
02:33:59,430 --> 02:34:02,670
happiness and make sure they
don't get scratched or cut or

2604
02:34:02,670 --> 02:34:07,410
damaged. helicopter parent as
well. And that pretty much

2605
02:34:07,410 --> 02:34:10,350
across the board. Every study
shows that kids make people

2606
02:34:10,350 --> 02:34:17,700
unhappy. By like, yeah, yeah. We
should get back to that. Put

2607
02:34:17,700 --> 02:34:22,920
them to work. Yeah, yeah. You've
done that very well. I love how

2608
02:34:22,920 --> 02:34:26,310
you're you've put your kids to
work all the time. They'd like

2609
02:34:26,310 --> 02:34:29,100
to work. Yeah. Well, I think
kids in general like to work.

2610
02:34:29,400 --> 02:34:31,680
It's just not if you don't bring
them up that way, then they

2611
02:34:31,680 --> 02:34:32,640
don't know what it is.

2612
02:34:33,539 --> 02:34:37,469
That's how they do stuff and
they, you know, found nails and

2613
02:34:37,469 --> 02:34:41,489
do books. Writing

2614
02:34:41,970 --> 02:34:47,520
pull up pound nails. It was the
other one. Do books like the

2615
02:34:47,520 --> 02:34:54,900
accounting? Yeah. Who was
pounding? They're all computer.

2616
02:34:54,900 --> 02:34:57,150
They're all computer literate,
which is kind of interesting.

2617
02:34:57,180 --> 02:34:58,110
Interesting. Yeah, it's

2618
02:34:58,110 --> 02:35:03,900
handy. Yeah. I've been following
the Panama Canal that you

2619
02:35:03,900 --> 02:35:09,030
brought this up a few episodes
ago where work has stopped. And

2620
02:35:09,480 --> 02:35:13,140
I've been I've been looking into
this, they want to broaden this

2621
02:35:13,140 --> 02:35:17,400
canal, this is a big problem,
everyone's ready for this canal

2622
02:35:17,400 --> 02:35:20,790
to be widened so they can bring
in the big ships. In fact,

2623
02:35:20,790 --> 02:35:28,410
they're already constructing new
ships based upon the Panama

2624
02:35:28,410 --> 02:35:34,080
Canal widening, in the new locks
will accommodate ships carrying

2625
02:35:34,080 --> 02:35:38,040
up to 12,000 containers
currently, that's 5000 is a

2626
02:35:38,040 --> 02:35:42,210
limit. And we were looking at
this you know, the financing a

2627
02:35:42,210 --> 02:35:46,440
pet that there's a there's a
dispute between the builder and

2628
02:35:46,470 --> 02:35:51,180
the Panama Canal Authority, and
the the and the Spanish builders

2629
02:35:51,180 --> 02:35:53,850
and the finance years. And so
there's an actual it's going to

2630
02:35:53,850 --> 02:35:56,100
the court. So that's what's
happened, there is a dispute,

2631
02:35:56,430 --> 02:35:59,340
but no one really can explain
what it is. I guess it's you

2632
02:35:59,340 --> 02:36:01,530
know, it's not someone can
explain it, but I don't think

2633
02:36:01,530 --> 02:36:04,080
the documents have been
published yet. But what here's

2634
02:36:04,080 --> 02:36:09,060
what I was looking for. There is
a competing canal being built

2635
02:36:09,060 --> 02:36:11,760
through Nicaragua, that's what
that's the one that Chinese are

2636
02:36:11,760 --> 02:36:12,450
financing.

2637
02:36:14,040 --> 02:36:17,760
Well, you know, Nicaragua was
the original location for the

2638
02:36:17,850 --> 02:36:22,320
Panama Canal for Nicaraguan
canal. Yeah. And it's a very

2639
02:36:22,320 --> 02:36:26,040
funny story behind it. It was
apparently easier to dig the

2640
02:36:26,070 --> 02:36:30,030
Panama area. If you see any of
these documentaries about that

2641
02:36:30,030 --> 02:36:34,440
canal, it was a nightmare. And
apparently it still is a because

2642
02:36:34,440 --> 02:36:38,130
of the conditions and the
distance that you had to go up

2643
02:36:38,130 --> 02:36:42,180
and down. And I guess it was
easier to do whatever there was

2644
02:36:42,180 --> 02:36:46,920
a lot longer to do in in
Nicaragua. But they had what had

2645
02:36:46,920 --> 02:36:51,840
stopped it was kind of a weird
story. What stopped it was a

2646
02:36:51,840 --> 02:36:54,780
stamp there was there's a bunch
of competing groups in there and

2647
02:36:54,780 --> 02:36:59,460
they the US Post Office produced
a stamp celebrating this

2648
02:36:59,910 --> 02:37:03,360
alternative route and they had
acted they had on the stamp and

2649
02:37:03,390 --> 02:37:10,560
active volcano that was actually
the US, US Congress. Next step

2650
02:37:10,560 --> 02:37:11,160
route. We're

2651
02:37:11,160 --> 02:37:15,090
not going to do that. I don't
like the mushroom cloud on your

2652
02:37:15,090 --> 02:37:15,630
stamp.

2653
02:37:17,250 --> 02:37:18,990
So anyway, that's one story. We

2654
02:37:18,990 --> 02:37:21,720
have a lot of listeners what not
a lot. We have listeners in

2655
02:37:21,720 --> 02:37:23,310
Panama, one of them has a hotel.

2656
02:37:23,790 --> 02:37:27,360
Yeah, we were invited. Or you
are I don't remember my invite.

2657
02:37:27,360 --> 02:37:29,760
But maybe you know, you of
course, you're invited, please.

2658
02:37:30,480 --> 02:37:33,240
I'd love to visit Panama
supposed to have been modernised

2659
02:37:33,240 --> 02:37:35,940
is really supposed to be
happening spot now. Well, you

2660
02:37:35,940 --> 02:37:41,190
sent me a few pictures. It's
beautiful. Pictures now? Well, I

2661
02:37:41,190 --> 02:37:48,780
think you were on the list.
Then, let's see. Oh, yes, Google

2662
02:37:48,780 --> 02:37:54,060
has struck a deal with the
European Union to make, quote,

2663
02:37:54,060 --> 02:37:59,400
significant changes in their
search results to avoid a

2664
02:37:59,400 --> 02:38:04,230
multibillion euro fine. This is
the result. This is I find

2665
02:38:04,260 --> 02:38:08,790
fascinating for just a couple of
reasons. This is the this ends a

2666
02:38:08,790 --> 02:38:14,070
three year investigation of anti
competitive anti competition

2667
02:38:15,480 --> 02:38:20,850
investigation that Google gives
higher rankings and preference

2668
02:38:20,850 --> 02:38:25,680
to products they own in their
search results. And to avoid

2669
02:38:25,680 --> 02:38:29,040
this find Google said okay,
we're going to settle however,

2670
02:38:30,930 --> 02:38:34,380
this is the rub. Which the
second time I've said that

2671
02:38:34,380 --> 02:38:39,360
today. The company the competing
search engines are not allowed

2672
02:38:39,360 --> 02:38:45,540
to review the changes Google
will be making. So the European

2673
02:38:45,540 --> 02:38:50,550
competition commissioner who are
keen Almunia struck a deal with

2674
02:38:50,550 --> 02:38:53,670
Google. And they said, Okay,
we're going to change what we

2675
02:38:53,670 --> 02:38:56,190
do, but we're not going to tell
everybody what it is. We're not

2676
02:38:56,190 --> 02:38:59,190
going to let the competition
review it, which I think is

2677
02:38:59,730 --> 02:39:01,230
they're gonna get away with
that.

2678
02:39:01,769 --> 02:39:04,529
Well, it looks like it'd be
bullcrap. Yeah. It looks like

2679
02:39:04,529 --> 02:39:04,739
it.

2680
02:39:05,850 --> 02:39:09,450
Oh, there's these guys are
idiots. You gotta Google by the

2681
02:39:09,450 --> 02:39:12,000
balls. I think you got to
squeeze not just let him okay,

2682
02:39:12,000 --> 02:39:12,510
whatever.

2683
02:39:12,780 --> 02:39:16,680
Well, how you recall that Joe
Keane is one of the guys who was

2684
02:39:16,680 --> 02:39:21,630
being tapped by the NSA. You got
to think maybe they got a little

2685
02:39:21,630 --> 02:39:23,400
something on him. Hey, listen

2686
02:39:23,400 --> 02:39:28,320
to this call. Hi, honey. What do
you do now?

2687
02:39:28,950 --> 02:39:32,910
Yeah, what are you wearing? Oh,
can you touch yourself? Yeah,

2688
02:39:32,910 --> 02:39:35,550
that'd be great. Oh, you're
cute. I'm so sorry. We need to

2689
02:39:35,760 --> 02:39:36,900
wrap this up.

2690
02:39:39,360 --> 02:39:42,090
You know, we have well, I'm not
gonna go into too many stores. I

2691
02:39:42,090 --> 02:39:44,730
want to play this clip with the
Central African Republic. So he

2692
02:39:44,730 --> 02:39:48,900
keeps his people people updated
on all hell breaking loose in

2693
02:39:48,900 --> 02:39:50,130
Central Africa.

2694
02:39:50,850 --> 02:39:54,300
Does Herbert the international
affairs editor joins me on set.

2695
02:39:54,450 --> 02:39:57,960
Welcome, Doug. Well, speaking of
the Central African Republic, I

2696
02:39:57,960 --> 02:40:01,710
mean, about 50 vehicles around
the town of Cebu, it's north of

2697
02:40:01,710 --> 02:40:05,970
the capital Bongi. And it's
sending its 25,000 residents

2698
02:40:05,970 --> 02:40:09,870
fleeing for safety. It's turning
out to be more difficult in

2699
02:40:09,870 --> 02:40:13,560
Central African Republic for
French troops, then Mali. Yeah,

2700
02:40:14,100 --> 02:40:17,580
it's an entirely different
ballgame to use a sporting

2701
02:40:17,580 --> 02:40:20,850
metaphor for the French Mali.
Within a few days and weeks, the

2702
02:40:20,850 --> 02:40:24,930
French were able to rack up at
least spin it as success in many

2703
02:40:24,930 --> 02:40:28,050
respects, having driven the
Islamist back, at least into

2704
02:40:28,050 --> 02:40:31,050
their sort of readouts in the
North Central African Republic

2705
02:40:31,050 --> 02:40:33,990
has been a humanitary and
humanitarian and a security

2706
02:40:33,990 --> 02:40:37,500
disaster for the French on all
fronts. You have 1600 French

2707
02:40:37,500 --> 02:40:41,370
troops, basically working
alongside an overwhelmed African

2708
02:40:41,400 --> 02:40:45,660
peacekeeping force of 4600. The
EU is going to be sending in its

2709
02:40:45,660 --> 02:40:49,470
own contingent of about 500 to
600, unclear which countries

2710
02:40:49,470 --> 02:40:52,620
will contribute what they're all
in over their heads. We've had

2711
02:40:52,620 --> 02:40:56,550
basically a Christian majority
militias called the anti balaka,

2712
02:40:56,730 --> 02:40:59,850
on the rampage in many, many
areas against a much more much

2713
02:40:59,850 --> 02:41:03,870
smaller Muslim minority Muslims
about 10 to 15% of the country.

2714
02:41:04,320 --> 02:41:07,710
It's been both sides, obviously
responsible here for atrocities,

2715
02:41:07,710 --> 02:41:10,680
it's been kicked for tat
killings. You've had this spiral

2716
02:41:10,680 --> 02:41:14,190
of sectarian violence and what
you've had basically as the the

2717
02:41:14,190 --> 02:41:16,860
minority Muslim militias, the
ones who had originally taken

2718
02:41:16,860 --> 02:41:19,740
power toppled the president,
then president last year in

2719
02:41:19,740 --> 02:41:22,830
March, they've been pushed back.
They have been basically

2720
02:41:22,830 --> 02:41:25,920
confined to barracks in the
northwest, also around the

2721
02:41:25,920 --> 02:41:29,340
Capitol Bongi. But the problem
is now they are watching

2722
02:41:29,340 --> 02:41:32,370
Muslims, they're sitting in
their barracks, seeing Muslims

2723
02:41:32,370 --> 02:41:35,820
falling victim prey to these
Christian militias. It is an

2724
02:41:35,850 --> 02:41:38,250
absolute bloody mess. No one
really knows what to do. A lot

2725
02:41:38,250 --> 02:41:40,140
of the French soldiers are not
even they're afraid to get out

2726
02:41:40,140 --> 02:41:44,520
of their tanks. They are seen as
hostile, sometimes by all sides

2727
02:41:44,520 --> 02:41:47,820
not protecting one or the other.
And there have been warnings,

2728
02:41:47,820 --> 02:41:50,610
very grim warnings that this
thing could spy escalate into

2729
02:41:50,610 --> 02:41:54,000
all out genocide. It's not there
yet, but the ethnic religious

2730
02:41:54,030 --> 02:41:57,780
undertones and overtones of this
conflict are extremely scary,

2731
02:41:57,780 --> 02:42:00,930
and some say a microcosm of what
could spill across the region if

2732
02:42:00,930 --> 02:42:02,070
they don't find a solution.

2733
02:42:02,520 --> 02:42:06,420
Yeah, this is very, very bad.
And I'm just waiting for the UN

2734
02:42:06,420 --> 02:42:08,460
resolution to come in because
the French aren't doing their

2735
02:42:08,460 --> 02:42:08,970
job.

2736
02:42:09,120 --> 02:42:11,340
They just French can't do the
job. They don't know what

2737
02:42:11,340 --> 02:42:14,700
they're doing. If it was us, and
I don't believe we have too

2738
02:42:14,700 --> 02:42:18,210
much. It's, I could be wrong.
And I'm probably wrong. When I

2739
02:42:18,210 --> 02:42:20,910
say what I'm going to say, I
don't think we have too much

2740
02:42:20,910 --> 02:42:22,050
involvement in this.

2741
02:42:22,080 --> 02:42:26,610
There's only one pipeline that
goes through car to Cameroon,

2742
02:42:26,670 --> 02:42:29,250
and I get the sense that you
know, it's just you know, if

2743
02:42:29,250 --> 02:42:31,830
there's anybody over there it's
it's it's people like our

2744
02:42:31,830 --> 02:42:35,850
economic hitman who wouldn't be
there, obviously. But but it's

2745
02:42:35,850 --> 02:42:40,170
just these groups, it wouldn't
be the State Department No. So

2746
02:42:40,290 --> 02:42:45,420
So, which, by the way, also says
that things can really get rub

2747
02:42:45,420 --> 02:42:49,110
alized without our help. So it's
not like we need to be there to

2748
02:42:49,140 --> 02:42:50,070
make things worse,

2749
02:42:50,100 --> 02:42:54,390
but we are everywhere in Africa
and in everything that comes out

2750
02:42:54,390 --> 02:42:57,660
of the Department of Defence is
all pointing towards a future in

2751
02:42:57,660 --> 02:43:01,260
Africa once the realisation of
the Middle East is complete. Of

2752
02:43:01,260 --> 02:43:04,650
course. We still need to work on
that a little bit.

2753
02:43:06,120 --> 02:43:09,060
Yeah, well, we I think the
Middle East is getting pretty

2754
02:43:09,060 --> 02:43:14,460
close to being completely
realised. We'll see. But anyway,

2755
02:43:14,490 --> 02:43:24,870
well, then I have a report from
from Belgium, Stan. And this is

2756
02:43:25,230 --> 02:43:26,700
going in Belgium, Stan,

2757
02:43:26,730 --> 02:43:32,220
well, not so good. Now this is
we've played some of this guy

2758
02:43:32,220 --> 02:43:36,720
stuff before Dale heard from
CBN. This is the Christian

2759
02:43:36,720 --> 02:43:41,910
Broadcast Network. So definitely
skewed. However, my darling wife

2760
02:43:41,910 --> 02:43:45,270
Miss Mickey has lived in
Brussels. I have lived near

2761
02:43:45,270 --> 02:43:51,570
Antwerp as she and she witnessed
this in the 90s So imagine this

2762
02:43:51,570 --> 02:43:55,350
report which is not brand new.
It says you know it's almost a

2763
02:43:55,350 --> 02:43:59,550
year old but I had not heard
this report yet. It's it's

2764
02:43:59,550 --> 02:44:04,170
really pretty incredible when
you hear what's happening in. In

2765
02:44:04,170 --> 02:44:04,800
Belgium Stan?

2766
02:44:05,160 --> 02:44:09,090
The graffiti says it all welcome
to Belgium. Stan, by the way,

2767
02:44:09,090 --> 02:44:12,450
this guy's voice. I just need
him to read from me all the

2768
02:44:12,450 --> 02:44:16,950
time. Welcome to Belgium. Stan.
The graffiti says that all

2769
02:44:16,950 --> 02:44:17,520
Muslims

2770
02:44:17,520 --> 02:44:20,910
are still a minority in Belgium.
But in the capital of Brussels.

2771
02:44:20,910 --> 02:44:24,270
They're already the largest
religious group one quarter of

2772
02:44:24,270 --> 02:44:27,750
the city's population and are
expected to be the majority in

2773
02:44:27,750 --> 02:44:32,160
less than 20 years. Another 2030
reference. The most

2774
02:44:32,160 --> 02:44:35,370
confrontational Muslim group
here is Sharia for Belgium,

2775
02:44:35,460 --> 02:44:38,370
which use shouting and threats
to shut down a debate by

2776
02:44:38,370 --> 02:44:42,870
moderate Muslims a few months
ago. I sat down and talked to

2777
02:44:42,870 --> 02:44:47,700
the leader of Sharia for Belgium
found Belkacem alias Abu Imran.

2778
02:44:48,210 --> 02:44:51,600
Sharia for Belgium is a small
group that a lot of people don't

2779
02:44:51,600 --> 02:44:55,470
take seriously. But he sounded
very serious when he told me

2780
02:44:55,470 --> 02:44:58,980
that he expects Muslims to rule
Belgium and the world.

2781
02:44:59,010 --> 02:45:02,250
We believe that they should
Yeah, I will dominate the shed

2782
02:45:02,250 --> 02:45:04,530
yet will be implemented
worldwide

2783
02:45:04,710 --> 02:45:08,280
Sherea for Belgium is a public
relations nightmare for those

2784
02:45:08,280 --> 02:45:11,640
Muslim groups which tried to
play down their ties to radical

2785
02:45:11,640 --> 02:45:16,650
Islam and Sharia law. Imran was
completely open with CBN News

2786
02:45:16,710 --> 02:45:21,060
saying Islam and Sharia law are
inseparable. And democracy is

2787
02:45:21,060 --> 02:45:21,570
wrong.

2788
02:45:21,600 --> 02:45:24,570
Sharia is Islam to be clear.
There is no difference between

2789
02:45:24,600 --> 02:45:30,060
Islam and Sharia. It just the
name. Democracy is the opposite

2790
02:45:30,060 --> 02:45:33,570
of Islam of Sharia and Islam. We
believe that Allah is the

2791
02:45:33,570 --> 02:45:37,050
legislator, Allah Who makes the
laws. He's the one who tells us

2792
02:45:37,170 --> 02:45:38,610
what's allowed and what's
forbidden.

2793
02:45:38,910 --> 02:45:43,230
I know some Muslims who think of
themselves as Democrats, and

2794
02:45:43,260 --> 02:45:46,950
they say they're against Sharia.
Are they real Muslims?

2795
02:45:46,980 --> 02:45:50,790
Yeah, that's really funny. When
I hear someone saying, Yeah, I

2796
02:45:50,790 --> 02:45:54,420
was speaking to a democratic
Muslim is the same thing as

2797
02:45:54,420 --> 02:45:58,140
saying I was speaking to a
Christian Jew, or to a Jewish

2798
02:45:58,140 --> 02:46:00,090
Muslim or something like that.
It's impossible.

2799
02:46:00,210 --> 02:46:04,530
Do you think that's true? John,
do you think that that is the

2800
02:46:04,560 --> 02:46:07,560
there's a big group that
believes that that is completely

2801
02:46:07,560 --> 02:46:11,070
impossible that the you cannot
be a democratic Muslim that

2802
02:46:11,280 --> 02:46:13,500
Muslim you have to be?

2803
02:46:13,710 --> 02:46:16,950
Yeah, no, I think the litany
that I've heard this before, I

2804
02:46:16,950 --> 02:46:20,460
think I think that I think some
course of study would lead you

2805
02:46:20,460 --> 02:46:23,160
to that. Conclusion. Yeah, no
problem.

2806
02:46:24,420 --> 02:46:26,790
You want to hear more. I mean, I
find fascinating report.

2807
02:46:26,820 --> 02:46:29,970
How could you meet a Jewish
Muslim or a Christian Jew and

2808
02:46:29,970 --> 02:46:33,180
the Muslim that says he's
against Shetty out? He's not a

2809
02:46:33,180 --> 02:46:34,140
Muslim, it's impossible.

2810
02:46:34,410 --> 02:46:38,040
Like in many countries across
Europe, a culture war over Islam

2811
02:46:38,040 --> 02:46:41,340
is well underway in Belgium.
Last month, the Mosque of

2812
02:46:41,340 --> 02:46:45,270
Charlevoix was desecrated with
the mask of a pig head and the

2813
02:46:45,270 --> 02:46:47,940
daughter of the head of
Belgium's right wing party and

2814
02:46:47,940 --> 02:46:51,480
Sophie to winter, posed in a
bikini and burqa with the words

2815
02:46:51,480 --> 02:46:55,380
in Dutch freedom or Islam.
Someone painted over this poster

2816
02:46:55,380 --> 02:46:59,190
giving her a full burqa. They
also painted over freedom and

2817
02:46:59,190 --> 02:47:01,500
Sophie to winter received death
threats.

2818
02:47:04,830 --> 02:47:07,890
This is going to no good can
come of this.

2819
02:47:09,090 --> 02:47:12,780
No, no, it's a couch. You know,
people mock it. But I think it's

2820
02:47:12,780 --> 02:47:15,840
a with this group, not the
moderate Muslims who are trying

2821
02:47:15,840 --> 02:47:19,710
to get out from under the these
guys. By the way. There's nice

2822
02:47:19,710 --> 02:47:22,260
guys are just a bad group of
people.

2823
02:47:23,010 --> 02:47:26,400
And I'm not getting tonnes of
emails from moderate Muslims

2824
02:47:26,400 --> 02:47:29,670
saying, Wow, you're right on.
I'm just not seeing it. So

2825
02:47:29,670 --> 02:47:31,710
please send me send me some
info. I don't think

2826
02:47:31,710 --> 02:47:33,540
we have that many Muslims that
listen to the show.

2827
02:47:33,570 --> 02:47:38,760
Why not? I think we certainly
must have some.

2828
02:47:39,840 --> 02:47:42,150
Well, maybe you get some notes
from some we did. We had a

2829
02:47:42,150 --> 02:47:44,490
couple of guys that were a
little more active on the show.

2830
02:47:44,490 --> 02:47:46,230
Then they disappeared.

2831
02:47:46,500 --> 02:47:48,720
Let me just fast forward to the
end of this report. Because what

2832
02:47:48,720 --> 02:47:51,270
the guy says there I think is
kind of the the main point.

2833
02:47:51,660 --> 02:47:54,930
There will be a majority of
Muslims here in Belgium. Even

2834
02:47:54,930 --> 02:47:59,070
the city of Antwerp. More than
40% of the children in the

2835
02:47:59,070 --> 02:48:02,880
schools are Muslims. So it's
just a matter of time. No prob,

2836
02:48:02,880 --> 02:48:04,260
we don't we don't have any
problem.

2837
02:48:04,320 --> 02:48:07,950
And Imran offered this advice to
white native Belgians

2838
02:48:08,100 --> 02:48:13,350
if they want to if they want to
push us back or something like

2839
02:48:13,350 --> 02:48:16,230
that. I don't know. Maybe they
can start to marry for wives and

2840
02:48:16,230 --> 02:48:19,620
have a lot of children start
with that. Maybe they will have

2841
02:48:19,620 --> 02:48:20,670
a chance but I don't think so.

2842
02:48:22,230 --> 02:48:25,020
There you go. Them's fightin
words.

2843
02:48:25,260 --> 02:48:26,160
That wraps it up.

2844
02:48:27,119 --> 02:48:32,009
You need for Hey, by the way,
I'm all for it for wives who had

2845
02:48:32,009 --> 02:48:33,479
a lot of children to work it

2846
02:48:33,480 --> 02:48:36,690
actually. Yeah, there's just
four is that it for you can go

2847
02:48:36,690 --> 02:48:39,750
beyond I mean, four is what the
current thinking is, but I think

2848
02:48:39,750 --> 02:48:42,540
they could go on to Yeah, that's
what you need is like four

2849
02:48:42,540 --> 02:48:43,260
wives? Uh huh.

2850
02:48:44,610 --> 02:48:47,430
No, I thought I was thinking I
had you more in mind. Quite

2851
02:48:47,430 --> 02:48:48,180
honestly, I thought.

2852
02:48:49,530 --> 02:48:52,620
Well, four wives, the way I do
things is possible. There'll be

2853
02:48:52,620 --> 02:48:57,750
in different places. So I do
want to forgot to give the jobs

2854
02:48:57,750 --> 02:49:02,040
karma. For our call outs. I'm so
sorry. And I also want to I got

2855
02:49:02,040 --> 02:49:04,980
a note, by the way letter on one
of the checks that came in from

2856
02:49:05,040 --> 02:49:08,940
Thomas Butterick, who's a
sergeant in the Marines. And he

2857
02:49:08,940 --> 02:49:13,080
has a signature that is like, if
this guy's not an artist, he

2858
02:49:13,080 --> 02:49:15,750
should be. I mean, it's just
it's the best signature I've

2859
02:49:15,750 --> 02:49:18,900
ever seen on a note. It's like a
blight it looks like a square

2860
02:49:18,900 --> 02:49:22,320
when it's old, done and
finished. He wanted as short as

2861
02:49:22,320 --> 02:49:25,500
shout out to his brother Samuel,
so I'm gonna give him that and

2862
02:49:25,530 --> 02:49:32,580
also add him to the job karma.
Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote

2863
02:49:32,580 --> 02:49:38,070
for jobs. Karma. Karma.

2864
02:49:39,630 --> 02:49:43,560
Okay, I think I think we're done
for today.

2865
02:49:44,490 --> 02:49:46,650
Unless you Yeah, they're all the
other stuff is minor.

2866
02:49:46,740 --> 02:49:49,200
Unless you have something else.
I think we've covered the main

2867
02:49:49,200 --> 02:49:54,510
bases. I guess what we'll be
waiting for now is to see the

2868
02:49:54,510 --> 02:49:59,610
opening of the Sochi Games we're
hoping to dog we're waiting for

2869
02:49:59,610 --> 02:50:00,300
a dog Dog

2870
02:50:00,570 --> 02:50:03,840
it'd be one of those little
thing you can do what kind of a

2871
02:50:03,840 --> 02:50:06,060
dog we can use as we both agree
there's going to be no What do

2872
02:50:06,060 --> 02:50:09,300
you think there's gonna be a
small yappy dog that jumps a lot

2873
02:50:09,300 --> 02:50:13,380
like a mid sized dog like the
poodle sized dog that then he's

2874
02:50:13,380 --> 02:50:16,140
going to be jumping a lot No I
think it'd be more of a running

2875
02:50:16,140 --> 02:50:17,970
around like crazy and they're
going to chase him and they

2876
02:50:17,970 --> 02:50:19,890
won't be able to catch him he's
not gonna be one of those.

2877
02:50:20,640 --> 02:50:22,830
Oh, that's interesting. I was
thinking more one of those

2878
02:50:22,830 --> 02:50:26,130
mongrels that you know the
Shaggy and kind of like as like

2879
02:50:26,160 --> 02:50:31,890
a piece of crap look and Don's
as beat has three legs. It's

2880
02:50:31,890 --> 02:50:34,890
like hopping around trying to
make it and I was thinking one

2881
02:50:34,890 --> 02:50:38,520
of those but we'll have to see.
Anyway, Newlands got her job cut

2882
02:50:38,520 --> 02:50:41,580
out for her she needs to get the
robot dog in there.

2883
02:50:42,990 --> 02:50:45,900
That may save her job as a
matter of fact that was out now

2884
02:50:45,900 --> 02:50:48,390
if she can pull that one off.
Keep an eye on this. I think

2885
02:50:48,390 --> 02:50:52,440
this thing has got legs. i By
the way, I agree with her.

2886
02:50:53,340 --> 02:50:55,170
F the EU Yeah.

2887
02:50:55,200 --> 02:50:58,320
Oh is of all the things that you
know are going on. As far as I'm

2888
02:50:58,320 --> 02:51:00,360
concerned. She's right on the
money. But this is not going to

2889
02:51:00,360 --> 02:51:06,450
fly with anybody. The chat room,
I'm on her side with f the EU

2890
02:51:06,510 --> 02:51:06,990
the chat

2891
02:51:06,990 --> 02:51:10,200
room is suggesting a dingo
instead of a dog.

2892
02:51:11,010 --> 02:51:15,000
But a wild kangaroo just
bouncing around and never gets

2893
02:51:15,000 --> 02:51:15,330
that.

2894
02:51:15,360 --> 02:51:18,120
All right night everybody. Thank
you very much for your support.

2895
02:51:18,240 --> 02:51:21,030
Please help us for Sunday.
They've been bad of late

2896
02:51:21,060 --> 02:51:25,980
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over everything as we always do,

2897
02:51:26,040 --> 02:51:30,720
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do. We're happy to perform these

2898
02:51:30,720 --> 02:51:36,420
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2899
02:51:36,420 --> 02:51:39,210
six here in the capital of the
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2900
02:51:39,210 --> 02:51:40,800
in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry,

2901
02:51:41,009 --> 02:51:43,529
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where it was raining this

2902
02:51:43,529 --> 02:51:47,129
morning, but now it's stopped. I
should get the rain stick out.

2903
02:51:47,159 --> 02:51:48,209
I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll

2904
02:51:48,210 --> 02:51:51,300
be back on Sunday right here on
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2905
02:52:01,620 --> 02:52:05,850
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