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Adam Curry: Ah Adam curry, John
C. Dvorak. Sunday, April 20 2014

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times you're getting donation
media assassination episode 610.

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This is no agenda from south of
the border outside of FEMA

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Region six. Coming to you from
Mexico kind of in the morning,

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everybody. I'm Adam curry

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John C. Dvorak: and from
Northern Silicon Valley where

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I'm not here either. I'm John C.
Dvorak. crag Robin Buzzkill.

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Adam Curry: That's right. You
told us to go you voted. Kind

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of.

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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I think
they voted for us to take a day

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off. Happy

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Adam Curry: for happy for 20.
Everybody. Let me get that in

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right away.

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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, for 20.
Coincidence. Yeah.

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Adam Curry: Exactly. I think
not. All right. So this is we I

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requested, actually, Miss Mickey
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have the day off. And so right
now I am in Mexico, probably

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being gang raped. I hope if I'm
lucky. So really appreciate

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that. But even more appreciation
goes out to

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John C. Dvorak: Dave Ramsey
again.

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Adam Curry: Ramsey Kane, yes. Is
he a Sir You should be? Yeah,

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John C. Dvorak: if he's not he
will be no Ramsey Kane, who's

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our the CD guy. He does no
agenda CD. And he's a clip

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collector and he does a produce
produce one of these before and

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he's great. And what can I say?
I mean, he's just like the

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perfect guy for this and he
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Adam Curry: Yeah, he really
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nuggets of stuff that Oops.
Sorry, this things are falling

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down here in Mexico. When you
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CD dot coms, we can hear all the
work he's doing. And it's his

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boss, I think who makes him do
this? When there's bosses.

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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, but his
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totally behind him. And so he
can do it at work. And so he

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does it at work when he has the
time. He has work to do to so he

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doesn't just do it all day, but
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Adam Curry: Okay, so now how are
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John C. Dvorak: play he's got a
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I guess, an hour or so. And then
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right? Discuss a couple of
things, mainly how people can

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can help us continue doing this
show and then we'll play the

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second half of the show. And
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Adam Curry: Okay. So I have no
idea what he's starting with,

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but we appreciate it. Here is
our special episode 610 clips

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show.

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So annoying when they do this.
More agenda agenda 21 crap for

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Unknown: troubling. News.
Officials in North Carolina are

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investigating a deadly outbreak
of E. coli infection has been

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traced to a county fair at least
61 people, including three dozen

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children have now become ill one
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Adam Curry: So this county fair
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for a while. Remember, it was
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flu, I actually went back and
looked at our show notes. I just

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did a search on
searched.na shownotes.com. And

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lo and behold, Episode 433. The
new swine flu h three N two was

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16 cases. People picked it up at
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John C. Dvorak: This is one of
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county fair for one thing, you
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that's gonna end. So that's
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they don't like you, or anybody
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an animal and then going through
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and then the butchering system,
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really high quality hand raised
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which is what it amounts do we
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about 1/3 The price of the grass
fed crap. So So that's gotta go.

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Adam Curry: Yep. Well, this is
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it. This is going to make it so
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bit that didn't work out. This
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we're at 53 cents 20 episodes
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months? Yeah, three months ago.
So that got no traction. So now

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it's the Oh no, the Eco E. Coli.
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county fairs and a child died.

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John C. Dvorak: child died it's
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Adam Curry: know what that
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children. Got to think of the
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John C. Dvorak: county fairs are
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all our classic institutions
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to some dork are under attack.
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culturally. And I think it all
relates to the Gen 21 I took my

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printout I have a printout of
agenda 21. Yeah. Which is like

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the big it's like the size of
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Adam Curry: room did you eat up
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whole ink cartridge

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John C. Dvorak: you burn a
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So, but the thing is dance with
this weird stuff dance. Yeah,

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I'm gonna do a special feature
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term way. But with trumpets. I'm
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Adam Curry: Okay, well, that'd
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John C. Dvorak: gonna be right.
On education. Yeah, actually,

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I've been working on this clip
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Adam Curry: Yeah, it'll be
ready. When end of the year.

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John C. Dvorak: It's half over.
It's done. I have an hour and 10

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Adam Curry: the year. So that's
what I mean, it'll be done. So

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John C. Dvorak: it's a bit
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listened to all the clips from
you know, the shoulder shows

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from since the beginning. And
there's a lot of stuff that we

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come up with, over the years
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but it's still interesting,
right, in retrospect, but it's

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not a retrospective show. But
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Adam Curry: tell you how crazy
we are about our passion for

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doing this program. So
yesterday, beautiful day here in

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at the hilltop, watchtower. And
Bobby Eaton is over. And I'm not

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quite sure, this must have
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something. And I'm kind of back
at like 90 95%. Now, Mickey made

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some kind of like appointment
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Bobby. And, and I'm like, you
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good shots, if you know what I
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enjoying the show. And then I
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Oh, you got to turn on C span
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It's the it's the correspondents
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like, Dude, you know, I'm, I'm
watching a photoshoot with Bobby

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Eaton official porn star of the
show. He's like, you can always

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watch that. Go watch the show.
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went inside and like they're
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John C. Dvorak: compelling. It
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you had a double. You could have
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Adam Curry: No, but there's I
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could have seen all this live
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worse. Because I was like, okay,
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go get some, some some meat for
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they're both in the hot tub.
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John C. Dvorak: I should jump in
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Adam Curry: I can do. And I was
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they get out? Oh, yeah, exactly.

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John C. Dvorak: Like, oh, you
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Adam Curry: a loser. But he said
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kind of interesting. Because of
course, evil Assad is turning

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off the electricity when you
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charge your cell phone. So how
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are out there and you're in
Syria in Hama and you've got

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Assad killing you What would you
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John C. Dvorak: mean, I would
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power and plug in or I would
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with some juice left or I would
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but I don't think that's a
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Adam Curry: too late. Those
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John C. Dvorak: would use my car
Check this out with batteries

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because our battery is running
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your equipments. So for phone
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actually simple way to recharge
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water with two batteries
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already exist everywhere we use
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water for one hour or 30 minutes
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inside the water at start
charge. How about that? Huh? As

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bullcrap So sounds like he's
saying buttocks

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Adam Curry: you put your
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John C. Dvorak: now what is he
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barely understand this guy
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constantly. What is he saying?
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bottle of water and the next
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Adam Curry: but he says is you
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to Duracell batteries in there
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hour. And then you plug in a USB
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the USB that normally goes into
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John C. Dvorak: This is bogus.
There's no way this works.

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Adam Curry: This is what I was
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guy is saying this then he's
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John C. Dvorak: would think

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Adam Curry: can someone try this
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John C. Dvorak: Try the X why
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Adam Curry: Yeah, I knew he
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couldn't do that he's just so he
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batteries and call me in the
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in the glass of water with it
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then just drop your USB cable in
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Adam Curry: and the guy on PBS
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John C. Dvorak: I think you did
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Adam Curry: Does that kind of
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John C. Dvorak: Please? Wow,
yeah, that's the clip of the day

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already. I just a clip of the
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that. That's the most idiotic
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got a guy from PBS. lapping it
up like a moron. Like I'd like a

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Adam Curry: Oh, that's, that's
how that's how ingenious. You're

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so inventive. So smart. So good.
I did find something else.

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Interesting that I didn't know.
Because you know, it's like, I'm

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in Illinois, right? And this is
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Central. This is HQ run by Rahm
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did what did Barack Obama do for
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was a senator. And most people
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senator. And do you know how he
What happened that that made him

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John C. Dvorak: In Illinois?
Yeah. I there was a long article

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Adam Curry: So he was running
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And Jack Ryan, if you google
him, he's, he's, you know, he's

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a cute guy. You know, he has the
he has the whole look,

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everything's perfect. And he was
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2004, of course. And Jack Ryan
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Jerry Ryan, who plays Seven of
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similarity between Obama and
Tuvok.

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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this was
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that but yeah, this is all
outlined in this article go on.

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Adam Curry: So they're getting
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run, the Chicago Tribune and W
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one of the one of the records
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1999. And it turns out, that
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clubs and saying, Hey, sit here
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watch. That ruin his entire his
entire race is like, Oh, wow,

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how does that work? I mean, do
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think not. Like, wow, I didn't
know that. That's how Obama

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actually won. Yeah,

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John C. Dvorak: I recall all
that. Yeah, there was there was

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discussed in great detail. And
also many people have been

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there's more than just a blow
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Adam Curry: well, I have the,
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document and it says a sex act.
It doesn't say what it was. I

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don't know. But a couple of
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health clubs in Chicago for all
their life, essentially. And one

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place where the President I'll
see you also used to go and work

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out. His name was Barry.
everyone called him Barry. Until

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he became Senator then all
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it was always Barry. How can we
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John C. Dvorak: Well, because he
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Okay, because he will like, I
don't know, you tell me. You

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know, my theories. It's things
that somebody has more of an

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ethnic sound and it sounds more
distinctive and markets. Much

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better. Yes. All marketing?
Because I mean, Barry, just not

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Adam Curry: Right. Well, no,
there's a resolution and

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Congress. Now resolution is not
a law. But it is, you know, I

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guess it's to make everyone feel
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and say, well, good job, Joe.
Good day at the office. The

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resolution in Congress says that
climate change is forcing women

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into prostitution. Oh,

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John C. Dvorak: I love this one.
So upside everything. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: here it is the
resolution whereas women will

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disproportionately face harmful
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insecure women with limited
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vulnerable to situations such as
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which by the way is called
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define that for you. And early
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HIV. Oh, you're gonna be a
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climate change. This is insane.
Okay, this is just insane. I

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John C. Dvorak: love this thing.
I'm glad you brought it up. I

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forgot about it. Yeah, you're
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Adam Curry: Ah, now Okay, so
let's just follow the money for

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a moment. And this is I think,
where this guy messes up because

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I think he's lying. And I
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much more involved at the time.
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really the way I see it is the
whole climate change thing not

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about saving the Earth, no one
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earth, these guys don't care.
It's about taking your money in

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the form of a tax, a carbon tax,
and it will be for everything

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like, oh, you talk too much, you
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Australia now has this. So it's
an actual tax. And from what I

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understand, the idea is to take
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poor black children in Africa.
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our American companies. We're
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giant check like
congratulations, kids.

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John C. Dvorak: Here's your
check money. Here's

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Adam Curry: your money. No, no,
you give it to American

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companies like Halliburton, and
Bechtel and you give it to all

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the big guys, this is what we do
we have war for the same reason.

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Okay, we go and you shoot up
Iraq. Why is Winco rebuild it?

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Unknown: And there's actually a
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have a huge acid rain problem in
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essentially a cap and trade
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Adam Curry: Is that true? We had
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Unknown: Yeah, where we kept the
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rights between each other. So a
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reducing their emissions could
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another company that needed more
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successful programs in American
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on the table and passed by a
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George Bush, Bush senior, and it
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solved the problem at a cost far
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estimates at the time were.

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Adam Curry: So you're the expert
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trade not the same cap and trade
that is being discussed where I

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believe all the money is and
what this whole thing is about

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John C. Dvorak: Now, there's
evidence that the whole acid

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rain thing was a hoax. No, you
don't say. And so they but I

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remember that ear. It was never
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they would show they would show
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it's just the face was
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The batteries rolled falling
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Adam Curry: I gotta find I gotta
find that statue in Italy. As

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face eaten off acid rain, I'm
sure it's on.

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John C. Dvorak: Put the cap and
trade in all these stories and

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in the success of the whole
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and then became sort of became
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because there's such resistance
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apparently, if I'm Catholic,
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up to 8% by putting me in the
dismissive category, that

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indicates that they're freaked.
So what the here's what the goal

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is, you put in a kit, you get
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carbon tax, you get all that in,
nothing really changes in it.

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And we point this out, we
pointed it out before and it

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should be pointed out the same
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and trade is an insincere
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Because if you think there's a
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trade, right? You just say,
Yeah, we got too much of this

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too much of that we can't do it
anymore. You cap it. That's what

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air pollution laws did know,
you're getting fined if this

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comes out of that smokestack.
You can't trade the pollution

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for some other places, not
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pollution does it the general
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and trade, cap and trade doesn't
change anything. It just creates

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a new system of passing money
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is to get a cap and trade in
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talking about it. And then 10
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man that cap and trade worked
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Adam Curry: Yeah. And okay. And
so and I'll pile on with you.

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And I'll say the reason why they
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we're going into a little mini
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true global cooling, and they
need to do it now before the

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break. Otherwise, you can't do
that. You can't claim victory in

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John C. Dvorak: Well, you have
to get this done.

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Adam Curry: Yeah. So we had the
we had our our dinner party on

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Monday night. And and

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John C. Dvorak: we talked a
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show. We do not much we talk
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Adam Curry: this is one of those
rare occasions where we actually

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had an off topic discussion
after the show, which I would

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say lasted for about 45 minutes
quite a record for us. And we

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had already spoken for over two
and a half hours shower up

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afterwards. And mainly because I
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of six people. And these are our
friends here in Austin. We have

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Russell, the brain scientist. We
have his lovely wife, Jennifer,

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the architect, we have Laurie
the artist and her husband Mark

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the rock and roller, who also
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John C. Dvorak: and they're all
Obama bought the total

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Adam Curry: Obama and McCain I
concluded after the evening,

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which wasn't till past midnight.
It was a good it was a good

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evening we went, we concluded
that we are probably their wacky

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friends.

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John C. Dvorak: Let's to wow.

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Adam Curry: You gotta go hang
out.

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John C. Dvorak: Unbelievable.
What they say is crazy. Crazy.

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Adam Curry: I gotta tell you,
first of all, but I had asked

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you for advice. I said, What am
I going to cook six people? I

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don't think I can do this. And
you went, you were so lovely.

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This is easy. No problem. You're
doing beef bourguignon. Like

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what? And so first of all, I did
not sell this as beef

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John C. Dvorak: like notation of
a very gentle I wrote

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Adam Curry: it, I wrote it down.
I wrote down exactly how you

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told me to do this. Yeah. And
which is quite funny. In fact, I

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will I will give you just the
first few lines. And I named it

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something different because they
said oh, what are we having for

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dinner? I said, we're having
double dip recession slaves do

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John C. Dvorak: think is a great
name for this dish? It is.

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Adam Curry: And here's here's
how you said it. You get five

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pounds of meat check steaks, one
and a half inch your cubes. And

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this is the cheapest meat you
can find. I mean, I'm talking

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cheap, cheap, cheap. Then you
get your cast iron pot. You make

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this thing hot. I mean fucking
hot. You're gonna put the meat

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in there and it's just gonna be
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It's outrageous. You have to
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This is nuts. It's carmelized
Don't touch it. That's kind of

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how you told me to do it. Yeah,
kinda. And so I had to make an

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investment and makes it a lot of
smoke. The investment was it

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done? Right? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Well, the investment was getting

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a Dutch oven, which I didn't
have. So we went to bed bath and

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John C. Dvorak: and I got your
Dutch ovens been going?

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Adam Curry: Well, no, they
actually went

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John C. Dvorak: to bed. Did you
buy the one that we saw on the

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Adam Curry: what, there were
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there were there was kind of

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there were two other choices.
One was the French kind, was

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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, they're a
little pricey. Because they're

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enameled.

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Adam Curry: They were all a
mammal. Maybe a different May.

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John C. Dvorak: Okay, what do
you do? I always go with it. The

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one I use is real is American
cast iron is it's the big it's

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the big heavy duty good cast
iron cast iron that needs to be

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Adam Curry: Yeah. So I got the
one that emerald cells. Okay, I

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liked it. I liked it. Yeah, it
was. So it's six quarts. And we

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perfect. Yeah, we needed the

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John C. Dvorak: purpose. Yep.
Yeah. Cook a lot of meals in

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Adam Curry: now. And I'm really
going to get into this because

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this was a dynamite thing to do.
I followed your instructions,

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although I did something really
stupid, which I think may have

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contributed to the success of
the meal. Because you know, what

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you do? The whole secret really
is you're throwing in a bottle

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of wine. And that's really the
secret to it. And that's just

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going to although you have a
secret ingredient, which is the

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cooking Sockeye, I thought that
was a that's a very cool thing

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to do kind of after your second
hour. But I had also asked you

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what wine they should serve at
the meal. And you had said you

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would suggest the Cotuit on 2009
But 2010 or 2011 would do and so

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I'd found a Cotuit own and I
think it was it was not cheap.

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something 2000 And it's

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expensive to run but yeah, well
so the mistake is I wound up

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pouring that into the suit.

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John C. Dvorak: Jacket
technically meat. beef

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bourguignon, of course is a
variation on stew the French

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version is made in Burgundy and
it's technically supposed to be

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made with a burgundy wine and I
suggested a Pino Yeah. And you

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used instead of serraj or
actually a granola Roblin

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whatever is Indian do nobody
knows what's in it have to go

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into rooms. So that would move
it would shift the flavor

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profile substantially but it
work. Well. Yeah. And actually

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anyone will work I've cooked
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Adam Curry: And what's great
about this is the kitchen is

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clean when everyone shows up.
This is clean. Everything's all

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the messes cleared. The things
sit in there. It's just bubbling

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along, John, they could not
believe that like You're like

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you're full of crap you've
cooked before. You've done this

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00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,890
before so not not never first
time and I gave you full credit.

436
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,040
They all know who you are. Of
course. I gave you full credit

437
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,630
John C. Dvorak: for coaching.
You

438
00:24:54,930 --> 00:24:58,470
Adam Curry: know, I said it's so
nice and right down to buying

439
00:24:58,470 --> 00:25:03,030
the Dutch oven today. So I was
honest about it, but I didn't

440
00:25:03,060 --> 00:25:06,060
say it was birth beef Bergen ya
just said it was double dip

441
00:25:06,060 --> 00:25:10,770
recession slaves do. That's
good. Yeah. Hey, I need to make

442
00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:16,260
good, my friend. Oh yeah, yeah,
because I feel so bad about that

443
00:25:16,260 --> 00:25:19,830
Matt Lauer thing with Gerard
Butler and the movie connection

444
00:25:21,060 --> 00:25:24,330
with North Korea I felt I felt
like really really bad.

445
00:25:24,420 --> 00:25:26,070
John C. Dvorak: Why cuz you got
lower fired?

446
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:32,550
Adam Curry: No. Well, I mean, we
have long Istat logs since

447
00:25:32,550 --> 00:25:35,010
established for those of you who
are new to the program, this is

448
00:25:35,010 --> 00:25:37,410
kind of a good way to ease into
it. We'll show you kind of how

449
00:25:37,410 --> 00:25:40,230
we think and how the how the
world actually works the world

450
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:43,620
of news. We have long
established that most news

451
00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:47,580
reports certainly on the big
networks are pretty much always

452
00:25:47,580 --> 00:25:49,770
to promote a movie because
that's where

453
00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:52,320
John C. Dvorak: that's where
it's just it's just a

454
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,110
coincidence that we keep running
into I don't know if

455
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:58,290
Adam Curry: it's just a
coincidence it's not that's

456
00:25:58,290 --> 00:26:00,660
where all the fun seems to be at
the movies you know, you got the

457
00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:03,480
hot actresses politicians like
to hang out with them. This is

458
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:08,220
always new surrounding movies.
And this seems to be no secret

459
00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:12,540
in in movie land and in
television, land and news land.

460
00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:17,730
In fact, Robert Redford was on
the done the what is it? Good

461
00:26:17,730 --> 00:26:20,580
Morning America with George
Stephanopoulos, who of course,

462
00:26:20,610 --> 00:26:25,050
is a a political operative for
the Democrats and obviously

463
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,520
worked in the Clinton White
House. And ABC coincidentally,

464
00:26:29,670 --> 00:26:34,650
and ABC and the news director of
ABC is married to one of Obama's

465
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,190
top advisors, not Valerie
Jarrett, but up there in the

466
00:26:38,190 --> 00:26:42,810
high echelons. And so, Robert
Redford is promoting his movie,

467
00:26:42,810 --> 00:26:46,950
and this is just to ease you
into what I'm about to explain

468
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:47,820
with North Korea.

469
00:26:48,270 --> 00:26:50,100
Unknown: My wife and I watched
the movie over the weekend

470
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:54,810
completely engrossing. And it
seems to me at least that you

471
00:26:54,810 --> 00:26:58,440
packed a lot of your passions
into a single movie, political

472
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,580
commitment, love and family life
journalism. I'm just wondering,

473
00:27:02,580 --> 00:27:05,910
where did the spark come from on
this one? Well, first of all,

474
00:27:05,910 --> 00:27:08,010
that's a great description. You
got to get on the marketing.

475
00:27:09,030 --> 00:27:09,930
When I was younger,

476
00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:12,930
Adam Curry: you got to get on
the marketing team. No, no, he

477
00:27:12,930 --> 00:27:18,270
is on the marketing team. Not in
this case. There's no real time.

478
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,730
Usually there's a touch of
particularly with ABC and Disney

479
00:27:20,730 --> 00:27:24,000
movies in this case. I think
that's why Robert Redford said

480
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,580
you ought to get on the
marketing team. They need

481
00:27:26,580 --> 00:27:30,660
somebody because he knows. Now
this is an independently finance

482
00:27:30,660 --> 00:27:34,350
movie. It's a Sony, Sony
international pictures or

483
00:27:34,350 --> 00:27:36,300
whatever, which is very good.
That is actually quite

484
00:27:36,300 --> 00:27:39,450
independent. But still, you
could see a CBS time but it's

485
00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:45,750
not there. Now, back to the Matt
Lauer. And Gerard Butler, who

486
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:50,010
was a producer on this movie,
Olympus Has Fallen is that what

487
00:27:50,010 --> 00:27:54,840
it is Olympus, Olympus Olympus
Has Fallen? And, and and the

488
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,830
premise of this movie is the
North Koreans are terrorists and

489
00:27:58,890 --> 00:28:00,960
somehow they've come down from
North Korea.

490
00:28:01,470 --> 00:28:04,530
John C. Dvorak: So they
transform transmogrify. Yeah.

491
00:28:05,370 --> 00:28:09,420
Adam Curry: And so, and I caught
this clip, but I'd forgotten,

492
00:28:09,930 --> 00:28:12,540
forgotten to play it. And then,
you know, John brought up the

493
00:28:12,540 --> 00:28:14,670
topic. I was like, Oh, I
couldn't find the clip. And the

494
00:28:14,670 --> 00:28:18,150
chat room found it for me. So I
have to kind of regroup because

495
00:28:18,180 --> 00:28:21,630
we didn't actually play the
entire clip. And then I want to

496
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,680
put a couple of things together
for you. So once again, the

497
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:32,100
movie is Olympus Has Fallen. And
this is Matt Lauer on the so

498
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:37,020
this is NBC. But of course, what
is interesting is what you're

499
00:28:37,020 --> 00:28:40,170
about to hear on the tie ins
with the politics in the movie

500
00:28:40,170 --> 00:28:41,670
business. So let's listen to it
one more time. All right,

501
00:28:41,670 --> 00:28:42,810
Unknown: Butler, welcome back.
Good

502
00:28:42,810 --> 00:28:43,410
to see you.

503
00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:46,170
You got clout. Let me tell you
what, you have cloud. All right,

504
00:28:46,170 --> 00:28:48,990
this movie is about not giving
anything away here. The North

505
00:28:48,990 --> 00:28:52,680
Koreans are the terrorists here,
they take over the White House

506
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,530
and they captured the president.
And you have arranged just as

507
00:28:55,530 --> 00:28:58,020
you're promoting this movie to
have the North Koreans make all

508
00:28:58,020 --> 00:29:00,960
kinds of strange gestures toward
the United States threatening

509
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,090
nuclear war. Now, how did you do
that?

510
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,160
Adam Curry: Well, it wasn't so
much for me, we have a very

511
00:29:05,670 --> 00:29:09,900
powerful publicity department.
Alright, so this this was very

512
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:16,770
funny. And by the way, the movie
is on Millennium pictures.

513
00:29:17,370 --> 00:29:21,000
Millennium pictures is run by a
very interesting guy, the

514
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:27,900
producers Avi Lerner, and Avi
Lerner. He was kind of like it.

515
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:31,980
He was a film distributor in
Israel. And he he wound up

516
00:29:32,010 --> 00:29:37,230
basically becoming the go to guy
for all big action action

517
00:29:37,230 --> 00:29:40,770
movies. And so this, of course,
is one of those action movies.

518
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:45,480
And his initial Financing came
from blockbuster as a part of

519
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:50,160
the Viacom family. So most of
his movie movies are financed,

520
00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:54,150
directly or indirectly by
Viacom. And now let's hear the

521
00:29:54,150 --> 00:29:58,740
rest of this little interview.
Just make some noise and say

522
00:29:58,740 --> 00:30:02,010
some ridiculous things and Then
recode Dennis Rodman and you got

523
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,810
a favorite you're pulling in all
the strings. Okay, so that of

524
00:30:06,810 --> 00:30:11,430
course is a joke but is it
really because Dennis Rodman was

525
00:30:11,460 --> 00:30:18,300
in North Korea? And And here's
where the interesting research

526
00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:21,570
comes from. What was he doing in
North Korea? Who was he working

527
00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:22,020
for?

528
00:30:23,340 --> 00:30:25,980
John C. Dvorak: Okay, well I
know one thing which was that

529
00:30:25,980 --> 00:30:29,760
his his lead, because let's face
it, the North Koreans don't know

530
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,040
who Dennis Rodman is but they do
know who the Harlem

531
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,690
Globetrotters are. Well, yes,
yes. So he got in but it looked

532
00:30:36,690 --> 00:30:39,570
like it was just him but then we
discovered the Globetrotters

533
00:30:39,570 --> 00:30:42,720
that because I guess you know,
they I'm sure they put on a show

534
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,280
there must have been a
fascination of

535
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,890
Adam Curry: the Globetrotters,
which is owned by a majority

536
00:30:46,890 --> 00:30:49,980
stake owned by Disney. I agree
with you. I think that that was

537
00:30:49,980 --> 00:30:53,010
set up by Disney and Disney is
thinking about opening

538
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:59,460
Disneyland North Korea. However,
Robin was there for working for

539
00:30:59,460 --> 00:31:05,220
vice. And vice is used to be in
kind of like an independent

540
00:31:05,220 --> 00:31:11,220
magazine. But I got some
research. Do you know who owns

541
00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:11,790
vise

542
00:31:12,180 --> 00:31:16,680
John C. Dvorak: who owns vise
Adam, Viacom when since when

543
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:19,440
Adam Curry: they bought this was
a deal that was done, I think in

544
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:26,670
2007 and is completely under the
radar and by Viacom has been so

545
00:31:26,670 --> 00:31:31,320
they they, they essentially they
made two investments. One was VB

546
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,180
s.tv, which is vice. And along
with Flux, remember the flux

547
00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:39,810
network that was supposed to be
like their answer to my space

548
00:31:39,810 --> 00:31:43,380
after that after they didn't get
that deal. So you don't remember

549
00:31:43,380 --> 00:31:46,440
because of course it was stupid
and flux went nowhere. But

550
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,690
that's when quietly they
invested in in the magazine and

551
00:31:51,690 --> 00:31:55,230
built this entire vise
television outfit. And I've

552
00:31:55,230 --> 00:31:57,390
always wondered where are these
guys getting the money from?

553
00:31:57,390 --> 00:31:57,660
Yeah,

554
00:31:57,660 --> 00:31:59,460
John C. Dvorak: you mentioned
that before because it's like

555
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,650
they're they're taking they're
doing a lot of expense stuff

556
00:32:01,650 --> 00:32:02,880
that looks expensive.

557
00:32:03,270 --> 00:32:07,020
Adam Curry: Yeah, and they've
got budget. And so then when

558
00:32:07,020 --> 00:32:10,530
Gerard Butler says this, you'll
say some ridiculous things. And

559
00:32:10,530 --> 00:32:15,090
then we call Dennis Rodman, and
you got a favorite one in all

560
00:32:15,090 --> 00:32:20,970
districts. It's not a joke. It's
true. It's obvious. It's the

561
00:32:20,970 --> 00:32:22,890
same frickin company.

562
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:27,150
John C. Dvorak: Well, I you
know, Sumner Redstone is one

563
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:28,620
character.

564
00:32:28,650 --> 00:32:30,060
Adam Curry: He's a slick, dude.
I mean,

565
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:36,780
John C. Dvorak: I met him. Yeah,
he is. He's a he's a he's a

566
00:32:37,950 --> 00:32:41,310
character. Let's put it that
way. But he is just a very it

567
00:32:41,310 --> 00:32:46,710
just, he just seems like this
tough guy. And Yuri see, where

568
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:50,640
do you think I met him? In South
Korea.

569
00:32:52,050 --> 00:32:55,680
Adam Curry: Really? He was
setting it up back then. That

570
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,550
guy is good.

571
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,250
John C. Dvorak: I didn't think
about it till now. Speaking of

572
00:32:59,250 --> 00:33:01,890
Adam Curry: which, so you have
to look at this. If you're

573
00:33:01,890 --> 00:33:06,750
looking at colonics it's a
commercial company. It's not a

574
00:33:06,930 --> 00:33:10,770
nonprofit. It's not a it's not
it's this is the this is what's

575
00:33:10,770 --> 00:33:17,100
crazy. It is a for profit
company. COMM onyx.com actually

576
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:21,360
started by a Dutch guy, which,
and they just got a new CEO Suzy

577
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,770
Mudge. Yeah.

578
00:33:23,490 --> 00:33:28,890
John C. Dvorak: I think Suzy
Mudge has a LinkedIn profile

579
00:33:28,890 --> 00:33:29,040
that

580
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,860
Adam Curry: for some Suzy, I'd
looked at her obviously I didn't

581
00:33:31,860 --> 00:33:35,010
find you didn't have a wiki
page. No, she's not very

582
00:33:35,010 --> 00:33:38,220
interesting. She's been in the
organization for 20 years. So

583
00:33:38,220 --> 00:33:43,110
she screwed her way to the top.
Yeah, well, it took her a long

584
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:43,590
time.

585
00:33:47,250 --> 00:33:50,340
John C. Dvorak: What are you
gonna do? Susie she looks like

586
00:33:50,340 --> 00:33:51,630
she good for rolling the Hey

587
00:34:01,620 --> 00:34:04,530
Adam Curry: hello, misogynist,
no agenda for you, everybody.

588
00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:09,480
Happy to be here once again.
Anyway, to wind up the war on

589
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,360
crazy. Here's the craziest
person of all, Congresswoman

590
00:34:12,390 --> 00:34:17,910
Diana did get. And this is a
great piece of video where she's

591
00:34:17,910 --> 00:34:22,830
talking about banning the
magazine clips, as she calls

592
00:34:22,830 --> 00:34:26,730
them, magazine, high capacity
magazine clips. But her

593
00:34:26,730 --> 00:34:30,090
reasoning behind it is rather
strange. And I want you to

594
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,110
listen with me just very briefly
to your last question was the

595
00:34:34,140 --> 00:34:38,910
efficacy of pad banning these
magazine clips. I will tell you

596
00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:43,500
these, these this is these are
ammunition. They're bullets. So

597
00:34:43,530 --> 00:34:47,250
the people who have those now
they're going to shoot them. And

598
00:34:47,250 --> 00:34:51,750
so if you ban if you ban him in
the future, the number of these

599
00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:56,130
high capacity magazines is going
to decrease dramatically over

600
00:34:56,130 --> 00:34:59,250
time because the bullets will
have been shot and there won't

601
00:34:59,250 --> 00:35:00,330
be any more of it. level.

602
00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:07,650
John C. Dvorak: This is
unbelievable what a cloud is

603
00:35:07,650 --> 00:35:10,440
like that woman that was on the
day and the Chamber of Commerce

604
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,020
that we had a clip of a couple
of years ago who says, Well, I

605
00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:16,800
would I would think that the
laws in Arizona really shouldn't

606
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,330
be as harsh as they are. Because
it's not a border state. It's

607
00:35:21,330 --> 00:35:25,620
like these people are. This is a
moron. Who is this? What's her

608
00:35:25,620 --> 00:35:27,090
name? Congresswoman

609
00:35:27,090 --> 00:35:33,150
Adam Curry: Diana de get D E, G,
E T, d e g e t. And she believes

610
00:35:33,150 --> 00:35:35,880
that these clips like they're
not rechargeable or something.

611
00:35:36,030 --> 00:35:39,390
You can't like put more bullets
in there. You buy them pack with

612
00:35:39,390 --> 00:35:42,120
bullets, kind of like a candy
bar. And you Yeah,

613
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,020
John C. Dvorak: then you got to
make you have to throw it away.

614
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,670
It's throw it away. This isn't
just a Motorola she doesn't she

615
00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:54,840
looks like an idiot. No offense,
lady, but you don't look that

616
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:55,680
bright. Maybe she can

617
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,640
Adam Curry: work for ah, and
this is not work that I've done.

618
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,910
But I figured I'd play a little
bit of just the pertinent piece

619
00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:07,140
of this clip. And this is Max
Keiser, who I think we both

620
00:36:07,140 --> 00:36:11,880
like, in general. Yes, he has
some funny stuff. But actually,

621
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,900
it's not max. It's his, his
researcher. What's their name?

622
00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:18,690
Shelly Shelby, something rather.

623
00:36:19,470 --> 00:36:21,450
John C. Dvorak: And I'll just
relent.

624
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,970
Adam Curry: Well, she, she does.
I mean, I could have just

625
00:36:23,970 --> 00:36:27,630
explained it, but it's cool how
she does it. She, of course, we

626
00:36:27,630 --> 00:36:33,360
talked about the $378 billion
that Wako via bank laundered

627
00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:38,850
from Mexican drug cartels. And
of course, while cobia bank is

628
00:36:38,850 --> 00:36:42,990
now Wells Fargo, and she
connects two dots here, which

629
00:36:42,990 --> 00:36:46,830
are absolutely astounding and
worth listening to a big

630
00:36:46,860 --> 00:36:50,400
Unknown: US Bank laundered
billions from Mexico's murderous

631
00:36:50,430 --> 00:36:54,480
drug gangs. So this is the
guardian news. And they've done

632
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,150
a deep investigation into the
story that we've covered before,

633
00:36:57,150 --> 00:37:00,360
which is what cobia bank and
they were found to have

634
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:07,950
laundered $378 billion or 30% of
Mexico's GDP in this time of

635
00:37:07,950 --> 00:37:15,360
drug money. The cocaine of
cocaine Yes. $378 billion $370

636
00:37:15,390 --> 00:37:18,840
billion, laundered through a
cobia which of course now is

637
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,380
owned by Warren Buffett's
company, Berkshire Hathaway. And

638
00:37:22,380 --> 00:37:25,560
of course, he's never talked
about that either. And it's a

639
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,570
huge part of the Mexican GDP and
the bank pay the fine. Well,

640
00:37:30,570 --> 00:37:30,690
it's

641
00:37:30,690 --> 00:37:36,090
378 billion and money laundering
through the cosas de cambio. And

642
00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:40,980
they paid $110 million fine or
less than 2% of one year is

643
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:43,350
Adam Curry: just gotta interrupt
the casas de cambio. I think

644
00:37:43,350 --> 00:37:45,600
it's not just where you go
change your money. The cost is

645
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,380
the Gumby cambio is not just the
like if the exchange place where

646
00:37:49,380 --> 00:37:52,020
you go and take your dollars and
turn them into pesos or vice

647
00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:55,080
versa. Well, I think that's what
it is. Well, you look that up

648
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,240
while we continue because this
is really good profits

649
00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:00,510
Unknown: from what cobia? What
cobia is now owned by Wells

650
00:38:00,510 --> 00:38:04,230
Fargo, Warren Buffett owns 6.5%
of it. But from this article,

651
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:08,160
there's a very interesting point
that I want to note that relates

652
00:38:08,190 --> 00:38:11,430
to this whole financial
catastrophe. First of all, what

653
00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:16,140
cobia started really getting
involved in these Casa de cambio

654
00:38:16,350 --> 00:38:21,870
in 2004. Just when the violence
really started getting extreme

655
00:38:22,140 --> 00:38:26,400
and the Mexican drug wars in
April in May of 2007. Three

656
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,120
years later, what cobia as a
result of increasing interest in

657
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,860
pressure from the US Attorney
General's office began to close

658
00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:39,600
its relationship with some of
the casas de cambio. And then in

659
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,850
July of 2007, all of what Kobe
has remaining 10 Mexican Casa de

660
00:38:44,850 --> 00:38:50,040
cambio clients operating through
London suddenly stopped July

661
00:38:50,070 --> 00:38:55,380
2007. What happened in August of
2007 the world credit crunch

662
00:38:55,830 --> 00:38:58,800
Adam Curry: so there you go. So
they go on to further

663
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,340
extrapolate that once Mexico
once the Mexican drug cartel

664
00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:04,860
said no, you know what, screw
we're not going to launder our

665
00:39:04,860 --> 00:39:09,180
money through you anymore. That
was the only liquid assets that

666
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:12,510
were coming into the banks. And
then right after that, what

667
00:39:12,510 --> 00:39:15,090
COVID and all these other banks
started borrowing money from the

668
00:39:15,090 --> 00:39:18,330
Federal Reserve because there
was no money. It's all drug

669
00:39:18,330 --> 00:39:21,900
money. The whole thing is drug
money. Everything legalize

670
00:39:21,900 --> 00:39:25,710
drugs. No, because then the
whole thing melts down. You can

671
00:39:25,710 --> 00:39:28,770
John C. Dvorak: already melt it
down. Now that is melted down

672
00:39:28,770 --> 00:39:31,650
legalized drugs. We want to deal
with this anymore. No, because

673
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,220
Adam Curry: then the Okay. All
right. And then you and I will

674
00:39:35,220 --> 00:39:39,210
stop doing the show and go into
growing. So while we're on that,

675
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:41,310
let me tell you a little bit
about your department of

676
00:39:41,310 --> 00:39:44,430
terrorism, Department of
Homeland Security as I continue

677
00:39:44,430 --> 00:39:49,590
to follow the sexual harassment
lawsuit. Two affidavits have

678
00:39:49,590 --> 00:39:53,010
come out John which I'd like to
share with you. Oh, good. This

679
00:39:53,010 --> 00:39:59,040
is this is way, way unsafe for
the children. So two affidavits

680
00:39:59,220 --> 00:40:02,220
I know In blacked out being over
the age of 18 make the following

681
00:40:02,220 --> 00:40:04,230
statement under penalty of
perjury I've no personal

682
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:07,920
relationship. Blah blah blah.
This is against Suzanne Barr.

683
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,360
Suzanne Barr, who was
purportedly loosing Apollo

684
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,080
tunnels girlfriend who was
brought in and sexually with

685
00:40:16,110 --> 00:40:18,900
with the other douche
knucklehead sexually harassed

686
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:22,620
men at the Department of
Homeland Security. On the last

687
00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:23,880
work day before him anyway, she

688
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,010
John C. Dvorak: wasn't qualified
for that job to start with Go

689
00:40:26,010 --> 00:40:27,300
on. On the last work

690
00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:30,390
Adam Curry: day before Halloween
2009 My duties required me to go

691
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:32,490
to the director's office where
several employees were

692
00:40:32,490 --> 00:40:35,610
discussing discussing personal
Halloween plans. I joined the

693
00:40:35,610 --> 00:40:38,490
conversation Suzanne bar was
also present for part of the

694
00:40:38,490 --> 00:40:41,220
conversation. At some point
during the conversation I

695
00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:44,880
witnessed Suzanne bar turned to
the senior ice employee to

696
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,620
Johnson and state, US sexy
MOTHER FUCKA. Then she looked at

697
00:40:49,620 --> 00:40:54,450
his crotch and asked how long is
it anyway? Several employees

698
00:40:54,450 --> 00:40:57,000
laughed nervously. Shortly
thereafter, several employees

699
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,850
returned to work duties myself
included and several continued

700
00:40:59,850 --> 00:41:04,290
the Halloween conversation. Now
let's go to affidavit be, this

701
00:41:04,290 --> 00:41:07,440
one's even better. And this is
sworn testimony from people who

702
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,200
are saying this. It's rampant in
this Department of Homeland

703
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,720
Security the people who are
trying to scare you into

704
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,780
submission. I am over the age of
teen Bubba made the following

705
00:41:15,780 --> 00:41:18,540
statement under penalty of
perjury I work for Immigration

706
00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:24,600
Customs Enforcement at Columbia
area 2009. During late 2009, ICE

707
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,330
Director Morton and others
including Suzanne Barr and Ray

708
00:41:27,330 --> 00:41:31,470
Parmer visited Columbia, during
the Columbia. Bear in mind.

709
00:41:31,830 --> 00:41:34,740
During this visit Suzanne bar
and Ray Parmer were both at a

710
00:41:34,740 --> 00:41:38,430
party at the house of the deputy
chief of mission of the US

711
00:41:38,430 --> 00:41:42,840
Embassy in Colombia, at which I
was also present. And as you can

712
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,620
imagine, John, it says here
during this party bar and Parmer

713
00:41:46,650 --> 00:41:50,490
were both drinking heavily
Parmer obtained the BlackBerry

714
00:41:50,490 --> 00:41:54,960
of Peter Vincent another ice
employee and use it to send lewd

715
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,490
messages to bar I viewed at
least one message which stated

716
00:41:59,490 --> 00:42:04,050
from farmer posing as Vincent to
bar you ready for the quote, go.

717
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,280
I want to eat the corn out of
your shit. Ah, during this

718
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,310
party, Suzanne Barr approached
me and offered to give me a blow

719
00:42:11,310 --> 00:42:14,550
job. This is what's going on
your government people to arms,

720
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:17,520
I say. Isn't it stunning? Isn't
that just stunning?

721
00:42:17,580 --> 00:42:20,940
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And why is
this not covered at all by NBC?

722
00:42:20,940 --> 00:42:21,960
CBS

723
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:24,510
Adam Curry: because you can't
say York time can't say eat the

724
00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:29,040
corn out of your poop. You
could. You could say Pussy Riot.

725
00:42:29,730 --> 00:42:33,060
We just need to have a band.
Everybody. It's the corn

726
00:42:33,060 --> 00:42:37,320
Hornitos. Yours. It's the corn,
corn eaters. Corn poo feeders.

727
00:42:38,910 --> 00:42:42,240
John C. Dvorak: Disgusting. And
again, you people that listen to

728
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:45,660
our show, they have to ask the
question, why are you hearing it

729
00:42:45,660 --> 00:42:46,890
on our show?

730
00:42:47,129 --> 00:42:49,889
Adam Curry: Why do you have to
get this news from a podcast?

731
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,160
John C. Dvorak: What do you
think of this podcast? I mean,

732
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,650
it's a great it's the best
podcast in the universe. But

733
00:42:55,650 --> 00:42:58,830
still, it shouldn't be the one
source of this sort of

734
00:42:58,830 --> 00:43:06,660
information. This is this woman
that came on through this woman

735
00:43:06,660 --> 00:43:12,870
that came on is not only a gay
lesbian, but she is she has this

736
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:17,160
new thing that a lot of them do.
They take a lot of gel. And then

737
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,560
they grow mustaches. She had a
full mustache Wait a minute,

738
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,650
women What do you take for that?
You take Andrew gel because

739
00:43:22,650 --> 00:43:25,080
there's a there's a phenomenon
in the gay community and it's in

740
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,600
Wikipedia. It's called lesbian
bed death.

741
00:43:28,410 --> 00:43:30,330
Adam Curry: Oh my God, John,
what do you what have you been

742
00:43:30,330 --> 00:43:31,380
doing with your time

743
00:43:31,470 --> 00:43:33,900
John C. Dvorak: lesbian bed
death I got a lecture about this

744
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,710
lesbian bed death seems to
happen to gay female couples

745
00:43:37,710 --> 00:43:40,680
after their two or three months
in bed together, they lose all

746
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,160
interest in sex completely
really quickly. Oh my god. This

747
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,510
is called lesbian bed death. And
to fight it. One of the two

748
00:43:48,510 --> 00:43:51,960
couples takes testosterone which
has also been in the news

749
00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:55,230
baseball players. And when you
take testosterone, you grow a

750
00:43:55,230 --> 00:43:59,130
mustache. And normally you women
always have a little bit of

751
00:43:59,130 --> 00:44:01,710
testosterone. But if you take
Andrew Joe, which is a pump that

752
00:44:01,950 --> 00:44:04,500
you put on your shots you've
used pumping on yourself and you

753
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,340
rub it in it goes through your
skin. When you take that by with

754
00:44:08,340 --> 00:44:11,460
any large amount of dosage,
dosage, you grow the mustache

755
00:44:11,460 --> 00:44:13,950
and you become very aggressive
sexually.

756
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,670
Adam Curry: Well, first of all,
I want it to be known that after

757
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:21,660
this program, I'm going to call
my lesbians and I'm going to get

758
00:44:21,660 --> 00:44:26,820
a full firsthand download on the
lesbian bed death. I have never

759
00:44:26,820 --> 00:44:30,300
heard of this. I've seen it in
the book of knowledge. And

760
00:44:30,810 --> 00:44:34,500
according to the study that
Schwartz and Blum Steen did,

761
00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:36,870
they concluded that lesbian
couples and committed

762
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:40,440
relationships have less sex than
any other type of coupled,

763
00:44:40,770 --> 00:44:43,560
heterosexual married
heterosexual cohabitating or gay

764
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,250
male and generally experienced
less sexual intimacy the longer

765
00:44:47,250 --> 00:44:50,940
the relationship lasts. After
the question quote, about how

766
00:44:50,940 --> 00:44:53,580
often during the last year have
you and your partner had sex sex

767
00:44:53,580 --> 00:44:58,080
relations. Very interesting. So
then they take the Andrew jail

768
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,790
throughout. This is Is that
covered by health care? Is that

769
00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:04,800
part of the female health care
decision?

770
00:45:04,830 --> 00:45:07,560
John C. Dvorak: my well being as
a matter of fact that the

771
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,630
connection that we had at the
beginning of the show

772
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:12,210
Adam Curry: the female health,
the women's health care

773
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:15,450
decisions, we can't make those I
don't I can't even grow a

774
00:45:15,450 --> 00:45:18,600
mustache if I try. My goodness

775
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:24,210
John C. Dvorak: Seemandhra so
I'm sorry there's a lot of this

776
00:45:24,210 --> 00:45:28,350
has not been covered. And again,
people are easily distracted by

777
00:45:28,350 --> 00:45:32,580
the free Pussy Riot mean as you
are. But there's my mom

778
00:45:32,580 --> 00:45:33,420
distracted I've

779
00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:36,900
Adam Curry: completely
deconstructed I just love the

780
00:45:36,930 --> 00:45:39,600
Erin Burnett saying pussy,
that's all. Yeah,

781
00:45:40,020 --> 00:45:42,330
John C. Dvorak: it's definitely
entertaining. But anyway, so

782
00:45:42,330 --> 00:45:44,460
there's something going on here
and then you're right Putin's

783
00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:45,750
got nothing to do with this.

784
00:45:45,779 --> 00:45:48,359
Adam Curry: Nothing at all. He
would kill there. He would kill

785
00:45:48,359 --> 00:45:52,619
them in a second. This guy
doesn't care about them. But so

786
00:45:52,649 --> 00:45:56,099
is then so you take the Andrew
Joe you grow a moustache you

787
00:45:56,099 --> 00:46:00,659
become very aggressive sexually
not rekindles the lovemaking is

788
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,390
John C. Dvorak: one of the two
partners is all cranked up on

789
00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:09,420
interest. Rate. Wow, would you
stop this the juice man is the

790
00:46:09,420 --> 00:46:11,100
juice this stuff is the future

791
00:46:11,130 --> 00:46:16,020
Adam Curry: and last, so what if
I take it? Well, I become your

792
00:46:16,020 --> 00:46:16,290
leader. I

793
00:46:16,290 --> 00:46:17,460
John C. Dvorak: would be great
for you.

794
00:46:17,490 --> 00:46:20,730
Adam Curry: What do you mean
what's wrong with me? There's

795
00:46:20,730 --> 00:46:28,050
nothing wrong with me. Wow, how
should this medicine be used? It

796
00:46:28,050 --> 00:46:31,710
comes as a gel to apply to the
skin. Oh, so you apply it right

797
00:46:31,710 --> 00:46:35,790
to your upper lip and you get
and that's your upper lip. That

798
00:46:35,790 --> 00:46:39,660
says it right here. No, it
doesn't say Andrew jail comes as

799
00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:41,280
a gel applied to the skin.

800
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,680
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, not the
upper lip where you apply

801
00:46:43,710 --> 00:46:47,460
specific parts of the body that
are that absorb through the skin

802
00:46:47,460 --> 00:46:49,500
the the chemical you need,

803
00:46:49,530 --> 00:46:51,690
Adam Curry: you can apply
Androgel anywhere on your

804
00:46:51,690 --> 00:46:55,470
shoulders, upper arms or
abdomen, between your chest and

805
00:46:55,470 --> 00:47:00,930
your waist. Be careful not to
get testosterone gel in your

806
00:47:00,930 --> 00:47:03,420
eyes. Thanks for the advice.

807
00:47:03,450 --> 00:47:05,670
John C. Dvorak: I just grew hair
in my eyes.

808
00:47:06,180 --> 00:47:08,430
Adam Curry: If you do get
testosterone gel in your eyes,

809
00:47:08,430 --> 00:47:11,370
wash them right away with warm
clean water call the doctor if

810
00:47:11,370 --> 00:47:15,870
your eyes become irritated or if
you grow hair. Wow. Well, this

811
00:47:15,870 --> 00:47:19,470
is fascinating stuff. I'm gonna
put this in the show notes

812
00:47:19,470 --> 00:47:24,210
lesbian bed death. Bed. I'm
putting that right under the

813
00:47:24,750 --> 00:47:28,950
pussy Putin thing and Andrew
Joe, this is wild. John, you've

814
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:33,090
trumped me. This is very good
stuff. But I am going to talk to

815
00:47:33,090 --> 00:47:35,670
my lesbians because they'll know
about this for sure. Oh, yeah.

816
00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:41,130
John C. Dvorak: They'll say Oh,
yeah. mandro JELA. Have you

817
00:47:41,130 --> 00:47:42,780
Adam Curry: just seen me shaving
bitch?

818
00:47:42,810 --> 00:47:47,010
John C. Dvorak: Shut up. Wow.
Never heard of that before? No.

819
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,380
Well, Hillary does. So they all
do. Yeah. Oh,

820
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:52,380
Adam Curry: I'm glad you brought
up Hillary. This is very, very

821
00:47:52,380 --> 00:47:56,880
cool. So clippety clop. I should
get her jingle out Hold on a

822
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,270
second. It wasn't a good
clippety by the way, they've

823
00:48:00,270 --> 00:48:05,070
moved the carpet. In in her room
there. So now when the doors

824
00:48:05,070 --> 00:48:07,380
open, she's almost on the carpet
immediately. So you can barely

825
00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:12,690
get a clippity clop out of her.
Oops, sorry. I didn't want to

826
00:48:12,690 --> 00:48:15,510
play that one. I wanted to play
clip,

827
00:48:15,899 --> 00:48:16,709
John C. Dvorak: jumping the gun.

828
00:48:18,210 --> 00:48:18,990
Unknown: Just clear.

829
00:48:23,790 --> 00:48:27,840
Adam Curry: Okay, so here's
Hillary with the Italian Foreign

830
00:48:27,870 --> 00:48:31,380
Minister doing one of her little
clippity clop stand ups

831
00:48:31,410 --> 00:48:38,340
Unknown: very strong commitment
to making a difference in the

832
00:48:38,340 --> 00:48:42,570
world and beyond. And on that
point. Let me congratulate the

833
00:48:42,570 --> 00:48:48,390
European Union on its Nobel
Peace Prize. Certainly, it's

834
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:54,750
quite remarkable to see how
unified and peaceful Europe is.

835
00:48:55,259 --> 00:48:57,419
Adam Curry: Oh, well, let's
switch over to the BBC.

836
00:48:57,509 --> 00:49:00,239
John C. Dvorak: The general
strike in Athens where it's kind

837
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,099
of kicked off if you will, you
can see

838
00:49:02,250 --> 00:49:02,970
Unknown: well, there's a

839
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:07,230
John C. Dvorak: fireball that
we've seen some tear gas being

840
00:49:07,230 --> 00:49:10,980
dropped. Of course, what is this
the was it the second third gen?

841
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:15,390
Adam Curry: Yes, this is this is
our peaceful or peaceful Europe.

842
00:49:15,390 --> 00:49:18,840
They're Hillary's taxi drivers.
This is fantastic.

843
00:49:19,650 --> 00:49:23,280
Congratulations on your peace
prize bus drivers air traffic

844
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,130
controllers, and of course,
there's nothing but explosions

845
00:49:26,130 --> 00:49:28,410
and fire bombs going off in
Athens,

846
00:49:28,589 --> 00:49:31,529
John C. Dvorak: not just Athens.
Now, he sorted but this happens

847
00:49:31,529 --> 00:49:32,609
is good. Just

848
00:49:33,089 --> 00:49:35,579
Unknown: a Merkel and the other
eurozone some of the other

849
00:49:35,579 --> 00:49:39,389
Eurozone leaders who are
insistent Wow. rather dramatic

850
00:49:39,389 --> 00:49:42,899
shocks here with those
firebombs. These other Eurozone

851
00:49:42,899 --> 00:49:45,539
leaders insistent that Greece
stick to these very tough

852
00:49:45,539 --> 00:49:46,709
austerity measures

853
00:49:47,310 --> 00:49:51,810
in the 21st century. And that
did not happen. By coincidence.

854
00:49:51,810 --> 00:49:56,100
It happened because of the very
hard work and dedication of

855
00:49:56,250 --> 00:50:01,410
leaders and citizens across
Europe. So For us, it's a great

856
00:50:01,410 --> 00:50:02,130
validation.

857
00:50:03,449 --> 00:50:07,199
Adam Curry: What planet are you
on? horrible woman?

858
00:50:08,490 --> 00:50:10,350
John C. Dvorak: Well, you if you
haven't noticed, they don't show

859
00:50:10,350 --> 00:50:13,770
any of this this crap going on
to the American audiences. So

860
00:50:13,770 --> 00:50:16,260
she's just playing to the
American audience. And

861
00:50:16,260 --> 00:50:18,060
Adam Curry: this was a mistake.
I mean, this was supposed to be

862
00:50:18,060 --> 00:50:20,730
like a nice little morning chat
show where they're just showing

863
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,880
a Top Shot camera of the police
and all sudden you see these

864
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,340
Molotov cocktails flying
through? And they're literally

865
00:50:26,340 --> 00:50:29,610
surprised like, Oh, that's a
fireball. Oh, well. Oh, my

866
00:50:29,610 --> 00:50:32,850
goodness. Oh, well, what should
we do?

867
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:36,330
John C. Dvorak: So the point
that I'm trying to make here,

868
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:41,160
which is that that is a
distraction to what actually was

869
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:45,690
a key point that people miss
buzzkill Jr, caught it

870
00:50:45,780 --> 00:50:50,610
immediately. And, and then when
I heard it, and it was was he

871
00:50:50,610 --> 00:50:55,020
said it as all cheese. Yes. And
that's this comment here, which

872
00:50:55,020 --> 00:50:58,110
came just before the Libya just
the clip Obama means what he

873
00:50:58,110 --> 00:50:58,770
says,

874
00:50:59,399 --> 00:51:02,909
Adam Curry: Okey dokey, people,
not everybody agrees with some

875
00:51:02,909 --> 00:51:05,759
of the decisions I've made. Or
it comes to our national

876
00:51:05,759 --> 00:51:07,169
security. I mean, what I say,

877
00:51:07,980 --> 00:51:10,200
John C. Dvorak: which implies
that he doesn't mean what he

878
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:16,020
says about anything else. Hey,
hey, buzz

879
00:51:16,020 --> 00:51:19,800
Adam Curry: kill Jr. That's
right. It's only that one. Yeah,

880
00:51:19,830 --> 00:51:20,640
everything else that

881
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,340
John C. Dvorak: you say? Yeah,
when you go out to eat? I mean,

882
00:51:23,340 --> 00:51:28,020
what I say about this. I mean,
what I say about this is it has

883
00:51:28,020 --> 00:51:32,670
all kinds of implications and
nobody caught that. Words.

884
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,820
Adam Curry: That's like when
someone says, Oh, do you want me

885
00:51:38,820 --> 00:51:41,610
to tell you the truth? I usually
say no, no, please continue to

886
00:51:41,610 --> 00:51:43,770
bullshit me like you've been
doing for the past 20 years of

887
00:51:43,770 --> 00:51:47,340
my life. And you hear that all
the time, right? I'm going to

888
00:51:47,340 --> 00:51:49,830
tell you the truth now. I mean,
honestly, and when someone says

889
00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:53,100
that honestly, and I'll have I
can't help but say no, no, no,

890
00:51:53,100 --> 00:51:55,650
please. Please give me the
dishonest version like

891
00:51:55,650 --> 00:51:57,990
everything else. You've been
telling me Don't give me honesty

892
00:51:57,990 --> 00:52:02,010
now. I don't like your honesty.
That's exactly what that was. A

893
00:52:02,010 --> 00:52:05,340
good catch by by buzzkill Jr,
good catch.

894
00:52:05,790 --> 00:52:07,350
John C. Dvorak: Good. Oh, I do
have just one clip. We should

895
00:52:07,350 --> 00:52:11,370
play that just out of curiosity.
He makes this weird noise every

896
00:52:11,370 --> 00:52:15,420
once in a while and I have a
good clip of it. And he does it

897
00:52:15,420 --> 00:52:18,660
it is more than a few times in
the speech. Listen to Chuck

898
00:52:18,780 --> 00:52:22,110
Hagel makes a sound I'll hear
about this I'm sure to hearing

899
00:52:22,110 --> 00:52:28,050
next week but I think it's
relevant to your question

900
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:30,930
Adam Curry: were you producing
again?

901
00:52:31,290 --> 00:52:34,080
John C. Dvorak: No. I swear to
God I know nothing to sweeten

902
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:34,590
that clip

903
00:52:35,940 --> 00:52:39,030
Adam Curry: that comes out of
his pie hole. Yes. No. None of

904
00:52:39,780 --> 00:52:46,740
this I'm sure to hearing next
week but I think that sounds

905
00:52:46,740 --> 00:52:51,270
like Homer Simpson is in his
head. No, this and this happens

906
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:52,320
more than once.

907
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,120
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, he just
not as loud as this one.

908
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:54,870
Unknown: No, no, no.

909
00:52:55,260 --> 00:52:58,470
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. This
squeaking sound that's not a

910
00:52:58,470 --> 00:53:02,010
squeaking sound. That's a whole
other human being inside of him.

911
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,400
I'm gonna do it one more time.
That sounds so produced John and

912
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:05,880
I believe

913
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,420
John C. Dvorak: you let me stop
stop you right now. I'm telling

914
00:53:09,420 --> 00:53:10,290
you the truth.

915
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,860
Adam Curry: I trust you and
believe you I have no reason to

916
00:53:13,860 --> 00:53:15,780
doubt you. You've never steered
me wrong.

917
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:18,390
John C. Dvorak: If you went back
and get picked this offseason,

918
00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:20,190
then you'd get it off of there
yourself. I'll hear

919
00:53:20,190 --> 00:53:26,160
Adam Curry: about this I'm sure
to hearing next week but I think

920
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:31,410
it's relevant to your question.
He's got a donkey up there.

921
00:53:31,590 --> 00:53:34,080
John C. Dvorak: It's weird,
isn't it? Wow. Here's another

922
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,700
screwy thing. So you know you're
familiar to show the

923
00:53:38,700 --> 00:53:41,190
Adam Curry: view and I don't
watch it

924
00:53:41,940 --> 00:53:43,800
John C. Dvorak: No, you don't
have to watch it because it's

925
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,040
terrible but but they've decided
to kind of up the ante a little

926
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,540
bit with you know better guests
so they brought in one of these

927
00:53:51,540 --> 00:53:55,380
some guy for the guy from Israel
I guess and play the this is

928
00:53:55,380 --> 00:53:58,020
this is what they use for the
teaser to open the show with the

929
00:53:58,020 --> 00:53:59,430
crowd going wild. Who's

930
00:53:59,430 --> 00:54:01,020
Adam Curry: the Who's the guy
from Israel who

931
00:54:01,470 --> 00:54:04,140
John C. Dvorak: was it wasn't
Netanyahu was some other guy.

932
00:54:04,740 --> 00:54:07,950
Unknown: He's really Ambassador
Michael Laura has wanting to

933
00:54:07,950 --> 00:54:11,460
America about how he runs
nuclear program is aimed right

934
00:54:11,460 --> 00:54:15,750
at Israel drag the US into a
world war that'll set the entire

935
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:16,500
Middle East and

936
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,510
Adam Curry: I love it I love it.
Hey everybody, we can be dying

937
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:25,290
world war three Mike started at
a moment he's got Iran pointed

938
00:54:25,290 --> 00:54:26,400
right at Israel

939
00:54:26,430 --> 00:54:27,450
Unknown: please welcome

940
00:54:27,450 --> 00:54:30,930
Adam Curry: the ambassador.
Fantastic.

941
00:54:31,980 --> 00:54:33,900
John C. Dvorak: That that is
like the Dvorak Korean

942
00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:35,070
consulting club that

943
00:54:35,070 --> 00:54:37,980
Adam Curry: is over that is
exactly you know that it's

944
00:54:37,980 --> 00:54:42,390
pretty much win loser drone
without without the jingle for

945
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:45,030
those of you who have never
heard it is it good to go like

946
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:51,600
this? That's right we welcome to
the guy who's about to get a

947
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,750
hell fire up is my friend.
You're a loser.

948
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,790
I like that.

949
00:55:03,150 --> 00:55:06,420
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, perfect.
That's good. Well,

950
00:55:06,450 --> 00:55:09,030
Adam Curry: there you go, that
someone's listening to the show.

951
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:13,500
And of course, the Netherlands
bites when we're in an air b&b

952
00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:17,340
Right now, as we know, that's
our new thing. Why ever stay in

953
00:55:17,340 --> 00:55:18,690
a hotel ever again?

954
00:55:20,250 --> 00:55:22,860
John C. Dvorak: Which is really
gonna outlaw Airbnb.

955
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,170
Adam Curry: I think it's I think
the opposite is going to happen.

956
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,300
John C. Dvorak: I think they
already did it New York City.

957
00:55:27,330 --> 00:55:27,840
Oh, yeah, sure.

958
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,660
Adam Curry: They the government
made Okay, let's step back for a

959
00:55:30,660 --> 00:55:35,460
second. Here's the future of our
world. And we see we're seeing

960
00:55:35,460 --> 00:55:37,740
this with Uber and we're, you
know, obviously we're seeing

961
00:55:37,740 --> 00:55:41,160
with Airbnb, you're going to see
more of this, the the world's

962
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:46,320
economy is going to run on. I
call them credibility market

963
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,250
exchanges, or something like
that. So with Airbnb, you're

964
00:55:50,250 --> 00:55:53,550
very much like Yelp, only the
Yelp got pretty compromised, but

965
00:55:53,550 --> 00:55:55,830
I think you can still, you know,
I think you actually follow some

966
00:55:55,830 --> 00:55:59,520
people still on Yelp and you
take Airbnb, you look at the at

967
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,820
the reviews and you decide, you
know, if you want to, if, you

968
00:56:02,820 --> 00:56:05,370
know, if you want to stay in
this place, and you can always

969
00:56:06,030 --> 00:56:10,050
negotiate the price, which is
kind of cool. But you also you

970
00:56:10,050 --> 00:56:12,960
have a lot of power. So there a
couple of things that weren't

971
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,940
right here and we called up and
said, Hey, man, you know, you

972
00:56:14,940 --> 00:56:17,220
want a shitty review from us?
Are you going to knock something

973
00:56:17,220 --> 00:56:19,170
off the price, you're going to
take care of a couple of things

974
00:56:19,170 --> 00:56:21,660
right now, because you do have
some power because these guys

975
00:56:21,660 --> 00:56:26,640
don't want a bad review.
Conversely, Airbnb has their own

976
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:31,680
database of me and I'm in it and
there are you know, anyone who's

977
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,530
renting out their place can go
and look up me and see if I got

978
00:56:34,530 --> 00:56:37,050
a bad review from somebody else
saying well this guy trashed the

979
00:56:37,050 --> 00:56:39,960
place or so this is really
interest that's what Uber does

980
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,880
as well with with drivers and
passengers. So Airbnb may go

981
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,300
away, but the because as a
business obviously, it's

982
00:56:48,300 --> 00:56:51,450
competing with the hotels and
the tax revenue. But I think as

983
00:56:51,450 --> 00:56:54,570
we move forward and people start
to realize that all these

984
00:56:54,570 --> 00:56:57,240
companies there's really there's
no real good way to make money

985
00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:59,460
on the internet other than
providing dialogue you know,

986
00:56:59,490 --> 00:57:03,810
internet access, but regulation
will kill these types of

987
00:57:03,810 --> 00:57:07,680
businesses but there will be
tons of of databases where you

988
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:12,180
have this credibility and you
can trade stuff and you know,

989
00:57:12,180 --> 00:57:15,330
then and buy things from people
directly. I think we're gonna

990
00:57:15,330 --> 00:57:17,100
see a lot of that but the the,

991
00:57:17,340 --> 00:57:19,020
John C. Dvorak: you know, you
have to give credit where credit

992
00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:22,170
is due this actually began with
eBay.

993
00:57:22,740 --> 00:57:25,350
Adam Curry: A totally apps this
absolutely where it started.

994
00:57:26,009 --> 00:57:28,559
John C. Dvorak: eBay came up
with the idea that you can buy

995
00:57:28,589 --> 00:57:30,569
direct from one person to
another and then they would

996
00:57:30,569 --> 00:57:33,689
review each other that you said,
this buyer never sent me the

997
00:57:33,689 --> 00:57:37,229
money or this guy's a scammer
scammer, or this piece of crap.

998
00:57:37,229 --> 00:57:40,589
He showed one picture and send
us something else. And that sort

999
00:57:40,589 --> 00:57:44,519
of thing. You even Craigslist
doesn't do that. Right? I mean,

1000
00:57:44,579 --> 00:57:48,869
you can post something in the
commentaries of Craigslist, but

1001
00:57:48,869 --> 00:57:49,379
nobody reads.

1002
00:57:49,649 --> 00:57:51,899
Adam Curry: Actually, I would go
a little bit beyond eBay and I

1003
00:57:51,899 --> 00:57:55,769
would give the porn industry I
would give them props because

1004
00:57:55,769 --> 00:57:58,139
the porn industry is always a
little bit ahead of the curve.

1005
00:57:58,139 --> 00:58:02,129
And I think escort reviews came
before eBay.

1006
00:58:07,350 --> 00:58:13,770
John C. Dvorak: Escort reviews
are one way no customer reviews.

1007
00:58:13,890 --> 00:58:18,090
Old Adam curry came over the
other day and tried to ping me

1008
00:58:18,090 --> 00:58:21,870
and he couldn't get it up. No,
that's not true. Okay,

1009
00:58:21,930 --> 00:58:26,460
Adam Curry: but okay. All right.
I'll take that. I just think

1010
00:58:26,460 --> 00:58:27,060
that all right.

1011
00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:29,760
John C. Dvorak: Well, everybody
wants to do this. By the way. I

1012
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,000
this is one of my major pet
peeves for the last 25 years.

1013
00:58:33,450 --> 00:58:37,860
Oh, the porn industry is way
ahead of everybody else. They

1014
00:58:37,860 --> 00:58:41,760
did everything wasn't for the
porn industry there'd be no VHS

1015
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,420
and Sony Betamax which is
bullcrap. The thing that made

1016
00:58:45,420 --> 00:58:49,080
those those systems work was
sports recording. That's why VHS

1017
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,500
one over beta because it could
record a whole football game and

1018
00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:53,820
beta couldn't Oh, is this

1019
00:58:54,180 --> 00:58:56,370
Adam Curry: I had never heard
this. I liked it. This is a very

1020
00:58:56,370 --> 00:58:58,170
interesting take. I'd never
heard that.

1021
00:58:58,740 --> 00:59:00,900
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, and so
that mean that's the only reason

1022
00:59:00,900 --> 00:59:03,270
that the difference there was a
quality difference would be in

1023
00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:06,780
favor of beta right but it could
only record two hours and VHS

1024
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:10,380
was always at the get go started
recording with four and then

1025
00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:13,710
went to six and beta just fell
because why would I want this

1026
00:59:13,710 --> 00:59:16,650
one I can get this and so they
and it was you know and there

1027
00:59:16,650 --> 00:59:19,980
was also more competition. It
was kind of like the iPad versus

1028
00:59:19,980 --> 00:59:21,030
the Android

1029
00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:22,800
Adam Curry: but don't forget
there was also the Philips

1030
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,120
system 2000

1031
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:27,090
John C. Dvorak: Oh, well I don't
know if it the Magnavox and my

1032
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,350
all time favorite was good. My
favorite one was a guy who went

1033
00:59:31,350 --> 00:59:34,770
to this was that era when they
had all these competitors and

1034
00:59:34,770 --> 00:59:38,220
this guy takes me aside he said
and then even Technicolor had a

1035
00:59:38,220 --> 00:59:41,520
little eight millimeter job that
was kind of ahead of its time.

1036
00:59:41,700 --> 00:59:44,670
But this guy takes me sizes
don't get this stuff. It's just

1037
00:59:44,670 --> 00:59:49,200
it's just this is the this is
the future this Sanyo V chord.

1038
00:59:49,230 --> 00:59:53,700
Adam Curry: Who was this guy?
Where was

1039
00:59:53,700 --> 00:59:57,750
John C. Dvorak: this one of
these Pacific stereos or one of

1040
00:59:57,750 --> 01:00:01,860
these things? Yeah, Sanyo V
core. As he got it technology's

1041
01:00:01,860 --> 01:00:05,280
better. It's easier to make
everybody's go into it,

1042
01:00:05,430 --> 01:00:10,230
Adam Curry: everybody. Yeah.
I'll you know what, I'll take

1043
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:12,660
that. But I think I've never
heard this theory about the

1044
01:00:12,660 --> 01:00:16,260
sports games and the length of
recording. I've also always

1045
01:00:16,260 --> 01:00:21,570
heard it was the porn industry.
And I'm with you on that I stand

1046
01:00:21,570 --> 01:00:26,610
corrected. But it's so rampant
It is horrible. So this is the

1047
01:00:26,610 --> 01:00:31,680
main problem. And and, and I
think the way it's really done,

1048
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:34,860
is they, you know, like the
current the North Korean news

1049
01:00:34,860 --> 01:00:38,460
agency, you might as well just
say, Langley, that Hello, I'm

1050
01:00:38,460 --> 01:00:41,370
reporting from Langley, the
North Korean news agency here.

1051
01:00:41,850 --> 01:00:44,970
Because that is that's how it
works. They will place articles

1052
01:00:44,970 --> 01:00:51,180
in foreign papers, foreign news
reports, and then that trickles

1053
01:00:51,180 --> 01:00:56,520
back as fact. And it's picked up
by the idiots. It's not like

1054
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,920
this, like, this is when people
always say, well, that's

1055
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,800
impossible. That can't be that
conspiracy can't be true. People

1056
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,560
wouldn't talk about it, they
would be known. Not everyone can

1057
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:05,400
keep their mouth shut,

1058
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:08,550
John C. Dvorak: do talk about
anyone would get out of there,

1059
01:01:08,610 --> 01:01:12,030
get off their butts and read
family secrets, read a book,

1060
01:01:12,210 --> 01:01:15,390
they would go and fact there's a
lot of books that discuss this.

1061
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,990
It's the people that don't
discuss it are the mainstream

1062
01:01:19,140 --> 01:01:22,350
daily news media. Yeah. And
those are the ones that have

1063
01:01:22,350 --> 01:01:25,410
been co opted in one way, shape
or form every you know, and

1064
01:01:25,410 --> 01:01:28,080
there's plenty of documentation
for this. If anyone doesn't

1065
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,870
believe this and thinks some
sort of weird conspiracy, it's

1066
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:35,310
not. But the thing that's
interesting is it actually has

1067
01:01:35,340 --> 01:01:38,970
gotten it gotten to the point
where it is made all the news.

1068
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:40,890
It's not credible anymore.

1069
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,780
Adam Curry: Nothing is credible.
You can't believe anything,

1070
01:01:42,780 --> 01:01:46,980
except it will us. And we don't
really have all the info we had.

1071
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,010
John C. Dvorak: We were only all
we're doing is mining what we

1072
01:01:50,010 --> 01:01:53,910
see and then find that sometimes
all we do is just add logic.

1073
01:01:54,210 --> 01:01:59,490
It's like does this logically
make any sense? Yeah. How hard

1074
01:01:59,490 --> 01:02:03,030
is that to do that? Logic? I
like that. In fact, a lot of

1075
01:02:03,030 --> 01:02:05,550
people I know, listen to this
show, because they're

1076
01:02:05,939 --> 01:02:08,489
Adam Curry: their intelligence
and they listen to the show.

1077
01:02:09,719 --> 01:02:10,709
Yeah, but the

1078
01:02:10,710 --> 01:02:14,040
John C. Dvorak: public at large,
is logical, or they would

1079
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,680
actually be dead, you'd have to
be logical, you know, if you're,

1080
01:02:16,830 --> 01:02:19,980
if it's a red light, and traffic
is flying around, you don't feel

1081
01:02:19,980 --> 01:02:22,980
logically you run into traffic.
I mean, just everyone is

1082
01:02:22,980 --> 01:02:26,130
logical. So when they see these
news stories, they themselves go

1083
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,220
cheese. That doesn't make sense.
But maybe it's true, because

1084
01:02:29,220 --> 01:02:32,790
it's in the New York Times, then
when they hear us and it's Oh, I

1085
01:02:32,790 --> 01:02:38,670
thought it was bull crap, too.
Before I started naming our

1086
01:02:38,670 --> 01:02:44,160
people for today's show, I want
to play a clip, which is when I

1087
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,780
fall again, who am I? This is
PBS, this is where people send

1088
01:02:48,810 --> 01:02:51,480
lots of money to they have lots
of sponsors, they got

1089
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,180
underwriters and all this. I
just want to play what I

1090
01:02:54,180 --> 01:02:59,070
consider a corrupt report by
Gwen eyeful of when she

1091
01:02:59,070 --> 01:03:01,770
discusses that idiot that we
talked about earlier in the show

1092
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,670
Aiken and his rape, legitimate
illegitimate rape thing. And it

1093
01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:08,160
because there's a there's a
there's a point of information

1094
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:12,060
here that is purposely left out,
and you have to remember that

1095
01:03:12,450 --> 01:03:15,780
Gwen is the one. She seems like
a very sweet woman, by the way

1096
01:03:15,780 --> 01:03:18,060
in a good reporter, but she's
the one who wrote the

1097
01:03:18,510 --> 01:03:21,360
Adam Curry: he. She's not that's
the problem.

1098
01:03:21,689 --> 01:03:25,139
John C. Dvorak: She might not be
if she wrote the hagiography of

1099
01:03:25,289 --> 01:03:27,959
Obama, and she's a huge Obama
supporter, and this is the kind

1100
01:03:27,959 --> 01:03:28,619
of report we get

1101
01:03:28,620 --> 01:03:32,610
Unknown: from her, impregnated
by rape apologized, but said he

1102
01:03:32,610 --> 01:03:36,960
would not be forced from the
campaign. Resulting uproar has

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01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,770
pleased Democrats and enraged
Republicans, including other

1104
01:03:40,770 --> 01:03:44,790
lawmakers and fundraisers and
come at Missouri Senator Claire

1105
01:03:44,790 --> 01:03:48,870
McCaskill, a Democrat has said
Republicans should accept Aikins

1106
01:03:48,870 --> 01:03:49,620
apology.

1107
01:03:49,950 --> 01:03:55,530
I think what's startling to me
is that these party bigwigs are

1108
01:03:55,530 --> 01:04:01,290
coming down on him and saying
that he needs to kick sand in

1109
01:04:01,290 --> 01:04:03,240
the face of the Republican
primary voters

1110
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:06,840
but party leaders including
Missouri Senator Roy Blunt, and

1111
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:11,880
former Senators Kitt bond, John
Ashcroft, John Danforth, and Jim

1112
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,270
talent, all called for akin to
stepaside.

1113
01:04:15,810 --> 01:04:16,800
Adam Curry: So what are they
missing?

1114
01:04:17,910 --> 01:04:20,160
John C. Dvorak: Hey, how about
mentioning that the Claire

1115
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,490
McCaskill clip that went on and
on and on about how they should

1116
01:04:23,490 --> 01:04:26,490
forgive this guy and let him do
his own thing? She's the guy

1117
01:04:27,030 --> 01:04:32,220
running against him. Minor
detail a minor detail she's the

1118
01:04:32,220 --> 01:04:35,370
one who's who you said yeah,
let's run this idiot Hey, why

1119
01:04:35,370 --> 01:04:38,460
don't you guys leave him alone?
I like to see I'd like to be

1120
01:04:38,460 --> 01:04:41,580
running against him. That's
never mentioned it she's like an

1121
01:04:41,580 --> 01:04:44,970
objective observers to making
this kind of as bold crap. This

1122
01:04:44,970 --> 01:04:48,720
is like the most slanted thing
I've seen on the on this news

1123
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,770
hour for a long time. And it's
so subtle, it was really

1124
01:04:52,770 --> 01:04:53,670
disgusting.

1125
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,030
Adam Curry: And how much money
do they get from the government

1126
01:04:57,030 --> 01:05:01,080
and how much money? Yeah,
millions. I'm gonna show my

1127
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,620
school by donate to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could

1128
01:05:04,620 --> 01:05:06,360
do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun

1129
01:05:14,250 --> 01:05:16,620
John C. Dvorak: Well, here we
are I on the clip show and so we

1130
01:05:16,620 --> 01:05:20,190
don't really have anybody to
thank you except for Ramsey set

1131
01:05:20,190 --> 01:05:25,290
for Ramsey and we will do a
complete thank you on the next

1132
01:05:25,290 --> 01:05:28,050
show, which will be the 24th and
Thursday on Thursday will be

1133
01:05:28,050 --> 01:05:31,920
621. We'll do a complete thank
you for everyone for this show.

1134
01:05:31,950 --> 01:05:35,220
And the next show, so it's going
to be a little long. We hope

1135
01:05:35,970 --> 01:05:38,280
Adam Curry: section in the that
would be nice.

1136
01:05:39,570 --> 01:05:42,000
John C. Dvorak: Long for the
24th we get to thanks. So

1137
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,390
everyone who's came in with
knighthoods or big donations or

1138
01:05:45,390 --> 01:05:49,140
a producer ships? You'll you'll
have to wait to the Thursday

1139
01:05:49,140 --> 01:05:49,920
show. And

1140
01:05:50,910 --> 01:05:53,460
Adam Curry: I'll have I'm sure
I'll have some Tales from the

1141
01:05:53,460 --> 01:05:56,730
travels. I've never been to
Mexico in my life. Oh,

1142
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:02,460
John C. Dvorak: yeah. So a great
hot hot sauce. And I recommend

1143
01:06:02,460 --> 01:06:06,810
using it. Okay, all righty. Also
a disinfectant.

1144
01:06:08,010 --> 01:06:10,590
Adam Curry: I really have no
idea where Ms. Mickey took me.

1145
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:11,850
Okay, well,

1146
01:06:11,850 --> 01:06:13,410
John C. Dvorak: you'll find out
when you get them. Yeah, but

1147
01:06:13,410 --> 01:06:16,590
it's it's it's you know, it's
usually the fruit that makes you

1148
01:06:16,590 --> 01:06:17,460
sick. By the way.

1149
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,760
Adam Curry: I'm not going to eat
any dough and water drink

1150
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,610
bottled water. It's just a
favorite. It is it is our fifth

1151
01:06:23,610 --> 01:06:27,690
anniversary. You do not need
dysentery. No, not on our fifth

1152
01:06:27,690 --> 01:06:32,370
anniversary. No, where we
celebrate would without just

1153
01:06:32,370 --> 01:06:35,880
about the fifth is. So yeah, we
appreciate everyone who

1154
01:06:35,910 --> 01:06:39,000
supported us even in while the
pre support we got was great.

1155
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,210
And in our and our absence
today. But of course you still

1156
01:06:42,210 --> 01:06:45,270
have some fun to listen to, and
maybe a good primer, to listen

1157
01:06:45,270 --> 01:06:48,630
together with other people who
are new to the concept, right?

1158
01:06:48,660 --> 01:06:50,610
Hit him in the mouth with the
show. Um, that's probably what

1159
01:06:50,610 --> 01:06:52,830
Ramsey has put together. Because
that's kind of kind of what he

1160
01:06:52,830 --> 01:06:53,460
does.

1161
01:06:53,610 --> 01:06:55,620
John C. Dvorak: And I want to
remind people to go to

1162
01:06:55,620 --> 01:07:00,150
divorce.org/n A to contribute to
the Thursday show. Or you can

1163
01:07:00,150 --> 01:07:03,810
also go to challenge of arc.com
a slash and a there's also no

1164
01:07:03,810 --> 01:07:07,230
agenda nation.com And there's a
button there you can push and so

1165
01:07:07,260 --> 01:07:10,350
also no agenda show there should
be a button you can get to. But

1166
01:07:10,380 --> 01:07:12,540
if you'd help us out for the
Thursday show, we'd really

1167
01:07:12,540 --> 01:07:19,260
appreciate it. So forex.org/and
a two let's go on to part two.

1168
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,520
Adam Curry: They have hot
pockets mac and cheese now.

1169
01:07:27,209 --> 01:07:30,599
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Why
don't you just make something

1170
01:07:30,599 --> 01:07:31,649
bad worse.

1171
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:37,200
Adam Curry: It's so funny. So I
ordered the memory. We got the

1172
01:07:37,230 --> 01:07:41,340
gift card for the mac and cheese
like 12 pack. So I ordered that.

1173
01:07:41,610 --> 01:07:44,580
And the other day our old
neighbor comes by in the morning

1174
01:07:44,580 --> 01:07:47,220
because he said Oh Mickey I got
your package. And Mickey had

1175
01:07:47,220 --> 01:07:49,260
ordered like some makeup thing
that you know, you can't get

1176
01:07:49,260 --> 01:07:52,650
anywhere and so she's really
excited. And you know, so Jen

1177
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,560
drops by and have coffee and
they're yapping away you know

1178
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,600
it's nine in the morning I'm
sitting in the corner prepping

1179
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,900
as usual like I get up and see
what was going out in the world

1180
01:08:01,860 --> 01:08:07,230
with some C span on my usual
chip herself. And then you know

1181
01:08:07,230 --> 01:08:10,080
because I can't wait she opens
up the box and it's freaking mac

1182
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:20,730
and cheese. Yeah, I was Mr.
unfavored Id No, unfriended. Not

1183
01:08:20,730 --> 01:08:24,930
good. So the Bilderberg Group
for that, what do you call John?

1184
01:08:24,930 --> 01:08:29,130
The drinking club is going on
over there in Watford. Watford,

1185
01:08:29,130 --> 01:08:33,690
I believe is where Elton John is
from. I think it's kind of this

1186
01:08:33,690 --> 01:08:39,240
invited. I think he's performing
in the foyer actually. And, you

1187
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:43,110
know, every single year in the
we've we've looked at this, I've

1188
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:47,640
met a couple of Bilderbergers.
The current minister of foreign

1189
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,130
affairs that is for the
Secretary of State, I guess, is

1190
01:08:50,130 --> 01:08:53,100
what you'd call them in the
Netherlands. He's the guy that I

1191
01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:54,990
interviewed him once on the
Dutch radio show where they

1192
01:08:54,990 --> 01:08:58,200
burned the station to the
ground. And he said, You're

1193
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,870
doing very important work here.
You got to continue this he was

1194
01:09:00,870 --> 01:09:04,230
trying to like give me a clue
like we're really up to no good.

1195
01:09:04,890 --> 01:09:09,240
But this Bilderberg you know,
it's like oh, the last last time

1196
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,240
was oh, there there Romney's the
man that we're the New World

1197
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,880
Order has determined Romney's
going to win. Well, how'd that

1198
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:19,380
work out? So now I'm much more
on the exam, the drinking club

1199
01:09:19,410 --> 01:09:24,510
front, but lately, but this
year, there must be 3000 people

1200
01:09:24,510 --> 01:09:29,430
out there and and it's funny
because you can see now, the

1201
01:09:29,490 --> 01:09:32,400
weather some of them are I'm
sure some people doing it

1202
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,610
intentionally. I have always
suspected Alex Jones of doing

1203
01:09:35,610 --> 01:09:40,320
this. You know, there was an
actual guy in a clown suit. The

1204
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,650
clown makeup on running around
this man these people have been

1205
01:09:43,650 --> 01:09:47,730
truly talking the whole so it
makes it look like a bunch of

1206
01:09:47,730 --> 01:09:53,580
nut jobs. True true freakin nut
jobs. Who really some people

1207
01:09:53,580 --> 01:09:55,980
have very good analysis. There's
some really intelligent people

1208
01:09:55,980 --> 01:10:00,330
there. We we look at we try to
give you an alternative view of

1209
01:10:00,330 --> 01:10:04,530
what's happening in the world.
But what discredits us time and

1210
01:10:04,530 --> 01:10:09,630
time again, Alex Jones is an
aihole. He goes out there, and

1211
01:10:09,630 --> 01:10:13,320
he does this stuff on mainstream
television, which makes it that

1212
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:18,000
much harder for anyone to
question. Any type of true

1213
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,670
conspiracy, which are the
stories the mainstream, the

1214
01:10:20,670 --> 01:10:24,360
minority mainstream media
propagates, when you do things

1215
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,230
like this on the BBC. And by the
way, there's no reason for him

1216
01:10:28,230 --> 01:10:32,070
to go on the BBC. He says he's
got 3 million listeners and 40

1217
01:10:32,070 --> 01:10:36,240
million people watch his videos.
There's no reason for him to go

1218
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:40,860
on the BBC on a Sunday. Because
he's just always I mean, just

1219
01:10:40,860 --> 01:10:45,930
listen how this ended, it was
unbelievable how he is hurting,

1220
01:10:46,110 --> 01:10:50,580
hurting the alternative media's
chances at reaching anybody

1221
01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:53,760
because the minute you bring up
anything now, people think that

1222
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:54,960
this is who you are.

1223
01:10:55,020 --> 01:10:57,300
Unknown: That's why because the
establishment Alright, know

1224
01:10:57,300 --> 01:11:01,470
what, Alex is this point. And
it's an it's an important one, I

1225
01:11:01,470 --> 01:11:04,770
would have, say 10 years ago
said, listen to all this stuff.

1226
01:11:04,770 --> 01:11:09,330
He believes that people put
cancer virus in vaccines in

1227
01:11:09,330 --> 01:11:11,520
order to create a eugenics
program. That's what that's what

1228
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,000
he believes. We would have said,
and we would and I would have

1229
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,030
said, that's kind of mad and so
on. And it's an interesting

1230
01:11:18,030 --> 01:11:22,800
psychological, like, dismiss a
problem or conspiracy theories

1231
01:11:22,830 --> 01:11:27,150
like this. I believed I believed
in I'm here to warn people you

1232
01:11:27,150 --> 01:11:30,480
keep telling me to shut up. This
isn't a game. Okay. Our

1233
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:33,630
government the US is building
FEMA camps. We have an NDA where

1234
01:11:33,630 --> 01:11:36,780
they disappear people now you
have this arrest for public

1235
01:11:36,780 --> 01:11:40,350
safety life in prison. You are
the worst person of interest.

1236
01:11:40,350 --> 01:11:43,890
No, no, it's their heads
disappear. David, thank you for

1237
01:11:47,580 --> 01:11:50,910
John C. Dvorak: watching. We
have a nifty little program

1238
01:11:51,660 --> 01:11:52,290
coming up.

1239
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,760
Unknown: will not stop the
Republic, the US awakening

1240
01:11:56,850 --> 01:12:00,840
infowars.com If you guys are
probably looking at the week

1241
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:04,380
ahead with our vertical panel
until the Sunday politics

1242
01:12:04,770 --> 01:12:10,110
crossed, the thick of the public
isn't waking up. So

1243
01:12:11,820 --> 01:12:13,470
John C. Dvorak: well, you got to
give him credit.

1244
01:12:13,679 --> 01:12:15,629
Adam Curry: He got the URL. And
that's for sure.

1245
01:12:15,690 --> 01:12:17,190
John C. Dvorak: twice now.

1246
01:12:17,550 --> 01:12:21,090
Adam Curry: So I think this
really she I think I think it's

1247
01:12:21,150 --> 01:12:22,260
unnecessary.

1248
01:12:23,219 --> 01:12:25,349
John C. Dvorak: Before you go,
Can you Can I just interrupt for

1249
01:12:25,349 --> 01:12:28,799
a second before you because I
want to hear what you say. But

1250
01:12:28,949 --> 01:12:32,939
this reminds me of that guy that
has the question marks all over

1251
01:12:32,939 --> 01:12:36,509
his suit. Remember that guy? The
ribs on the book? I hate get all

1252
01:12:36,509 --> 01:12:40,769
this money from the government?
Oh, yeah, that guy. Yeah, he had

1253
01:12:40,769 --> 01:12:43,949
all these question marks over
suit. He had the catenacci

1254
01:12:43,979 --> 01:12:47,309
agent. I won't mention his name
because it's ridiculous. Who

1255
01:12:47,309 --> 01:12:49,799
said you know what you ought to
do. I know we can get a best

1256
01:12:49,799 --> 01:12:51,869
seller out of this because you
got the same guy. You know that

1257
01:12:51,869 --> 01:12:54,479
guy. I forgot his name. You
should do something like that.

1258
01:12:54,929 --> 01:12:58,349
This is like this is like what
Alex Jones is doing. It's just

1259
01:12:58,769 --> 01:13:00,059
he's just a clown.

1260
01:13:00,150 --> 01:13:04,410
Adam Curry: What? Yeah, complete
complete clown. Um, here's the

1261
01:13:04,410 --> 01:13:08,640
guy. I Hold on. What's his name?
I got I got him on the Google's

1262
01:13:09,420 --> 01:13:11,190
free money. Matthew Lesko.

1263
01:13:11,639 --> 01:13:12,539
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, let's go.

1264
01:13:13,350 --> 01:13:15,300
Adam Curry: You know, you could
pull it off. Actually, I see if

1265
01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:17,340
you if you put on the suit and
the bow tie.

1266
01:13:17,790 --> 01:13:22,950
John C. Dvorak: The bow giants.
Opposite me tells you you so

1267
01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:25,500
what were you thinking when you
heard this? That's a by the way?

1268
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,660
I will. No, no, no, no, I

1269
01:13:27,660 --> 01:13:31,830
Adam Curry: can't. I can't take
it. I can't take it. No. Two

1270
01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:34,770
years ago. Well, what was that?
You can't

1271
01:13:34,770 --> 01:13:36,000
John C. Dvorak: take the Clip of
the Day?

1272
01:13:36,030 --> 01:13:39,390
Adam Curry: No, no, I can't take
I can't I cannot accept it. I

1273
01:13:39,390 --> 01:13:42,720
just can't accept that. No, I
can't. I I don't think it's that

1274
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,390
great. Okay, no, thank you very
much. I

1275
01:13:45,390 --> 01:13:47,670
John C. Dvorak: appreciate it in
advance, you get a second place,

1276
01:13:47,670 --> 01:13:48,300
you know, after you

1277
01:13:48,450 --> 01:13:50,130
Adam Curry: after you like
compare him to Glenn Beck. You

1278
01:13:50,130 --> 01:13:53,040
know, that's still kind of
smarts a little bit. Let me let

1279
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,040
me give you a little more extra
or let me give the producers of

1280
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,980
the show a little more extra
data. So we had this Bolivian

1281
01:13:59,940 --> 01:14:04,530
incident and and this was
essentially the setup to rile up

1282
01:14:04,530 --> 01:14:08,670
all of South America. Let me
play this is about a minute and

1283
01:14:08,670 --> 01:14:14,160
a half of we have Bolivia,
Venezuela, Argentina, by the

1284
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,250
way, the the Venezuelan
President. He's kind of like a

1285
01:14:18,330 --> 01:14:22,650
like a Devo safety dance hat on
this very interesting outfit

1286
01:14:22,650 --> 01:14:28,200
he's wearing and these are the
them speaking and translations.

1287
01:14:28,650 --> 01:14:31,110
It's a little compilation of
what they're saying about the

1288
01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:33,360
President and the United States
of America.

1289
01:14:38,850 --> 01:14:41,550
Unknown: If necessary, we will
close the US Embassy in Bolivia.

1290
01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:46,230
We do not need the US Embassy.
We don't need this pretext of

1291
01:14:46,230 --> 01:14:49,230
cooperation and diplomatic
relations when they come to

1292
01:14:49,230 --> 01:14:53,700
conspire from within and from
outside. The US Ambassador to

1293
01:14:53,700 --> 01:14:57,960
Bolivia is gone. The US Drug
Enforcement Administration is

1294
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:03,780
gone. Surely the CIA is
infiltrated all over the place.

1295
01:15:05,879 --> 01:15:07,769
Adam Curry: And now we go to
Venezuela, my hand would not

1296
01:15:07,770 --> 01:15:11,460
Unknown: tremble to shut down
the US Embassy. We have dignity,

1297
01:15:11,580 --> 01:15:15,060
we have sovereignty. Without
America, we are better off

1298
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,640
politically. And democratically.

1299
01:15:17,730 --> 01:15:19,320
Adam Curry: That was still I
believe you announcement

1300
01:15:23,850 --> 01:15:26,430
Unknown: gave the order to the
authorities in these countries

1301
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:32,820
and said Young Snowden was on
the plane with a CIA. According

1302
01:15:32,820 --> 01:15:36,030
to what has happened in Europe,
the CIA is more powerful than

1303
01:15:36,030 --> 01:15:43,980
the government's. He's in charge
in Europe, European governments

1304
01:15:43,980 --> 01:15:45,780
and the people, the CIA.

1305
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:54,960
plus un, President of Bolivia
were held hostage for 13 hours.

1306
01:15:55,350 --> 01:15:58,350
And now they're trying to
explain all this, saying it was

1307
01:15:58,350 --> 01:16:01,740
due to technical problems, or
feel problems.

1308
01:16:03,990 --> 01:16:06,690
Adam Curry: Okay, so that was
the three South American

1309
01:16:06,690 --> 01:16:09,360
countries in a row and very
interesting how they're talking

1310
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:13,200
about the CIA being infiltrated
how America is shit, you know?

1311
01:16:13,230 --> 01:16:16,200
And by the way, to the chat
room, you're absolutely right.

1312
01:16:17,010 --> 01:16:20,040
Devo did not do safety dance
that was men without hats. And

1313
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,290
because that's the only thing
you care about. I'm logging off

1314
01:16:22,290 --> 01:16:25,740
of the chat room, because you're
idiots. You're not the only fact

1315
01:16:25,740 --> 01:16:31,290
that can take up on. So. I mean,
I just logged out. How stupid

1316
01:16:31,290 --> 01:16:36,180
are you? Oh, there was it was
meant with that hat. Alright. So

1317
01:16:36,210 --> 01:16:39,480
there's clearly and this is all
Russian based. Putin is sitting

1318
01:16:39,480 --> 01:16:40,950
there laughing at this because

1319
01:16:41,220 --> 01:16:43,620
John C. Dvorak: Putin is having
the time of his life. I wouldn't

1320
01:16:43,620 --> 01:16:46,890
be surprised if Putin's group
didn't make themselves look like

1321
01:16:46,890 --> 01:16:49,230
the CIA pulling this off. Well,
let

1322
01:16:49,230 --> 01:16:51,240
Adam Curry: me tell you what
happened. So the Bolivian

1323
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:55,140
President had just had a meeting
in Moscow, he's flying back from

1324
01:16:55,140 --> 01:16:59,370
Moscow, where, you know, they
have a $5 billion deal with

1325
01:16:59,370 --> 01:17:03,780
Gazprom, which is Putin. They
know what side of the bread is

1326
01:17:03,780 --> 01:17:07,290
buttered. And this whole like,
oh, they were they were free or

1327
01:17:07,290 --> 01:17:09,900
they were not allowed to cross
they were forced to land well,

1328
01:17:09,900 --> 01:17:14,160
here is the if you look on the
map, they they they tried to

1329
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:19,590
land in Portugal for fueling
that Portugal Faro airport I

1330
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:22,080
believe could not take them for
technical reasons which is

1331
01:17:22,110 --> 01:17:25,050
highly possible that they had to
divert but if you look at the

1332
01:17:25,050 --> 01:17:29,550
map and then circle around the
go to Austria this is the the

1333
01:17:29,580 --> 01:17:33,990
tail numbers Fox Alpha Bravo 001
And I'm going to let you in a

1334
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:38,640
little bit of pilot humor here
as you listen to this force

1335
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,350
landing in Austria

1336
01:17:46,860 --> 01:17:52,740
evening information wiki Okay,
so that's the tower saying Good

1337
01:17:52,740 --> 01:17:55,410
evening How you doing
information whiskey which this

1338
01:17:55,410 --> 01:17:58,170
is the that's the the current
weather an atmosphere

1339
01:17:58,170 --> 01:18:00,660
conditions, expect this runway?
How you doing?

1340
01:18:06,690 --> 01:18:13,770
Do you need any assistance? They
need any assistance. So this is

1341
01:18:13,770 --> 01:18:16,020
the Austrian flight controller
saying hey, do you guys need any

1342
01:18:16,020 --> 01:18:18,450
assistance when you land? You
know, because we know that your

1343
01:18:18,690 --> 01:18:21,030
presidential plan you need
anything anything we can do ice

1344
01:18:21,030 --> 01:18:25,320
cream, you know, Twizzlers,
anything we can get for you. At

1345
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:30,630
this moment, we need to laugh
because we cannot get a correct

1346
01:18:30,630 --> 01:18:32,850
indication of indication.

1347
01:18:38,220 --> 01:18:41,040
Now, let me tell you a little
bit of pilot humor. So what he

1348
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,830
said is no, no, we don't need
assistance we need to land

1349
01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:48,090
because we cannot get a correct
indication of our fuel level.

1350
01:18:48,270 --> 01:18:52,830
Therefore, we need to land as a
precautionary measure. This is a

1351
01:18:52,830 --> 01:18:59,070
$47 million jet. Which is this
is not like your fuel gauge in

1352
01:18:59,070 --> 01:19:04,680
your car. And it's not just one
fuel gauges, multiple fuel gauge

1353
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,490
fuel pressure fuel flow. This is
very, very rare. In fact,

1354
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,280
there's two things pilots use
when they want to make an

1355
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,700
unscheduled landing, because
this was an unscheduled landing

1356
01:19:14,700 --> 01:19:19,590
that probably because Putin said
All right. Here's what we're

1357
01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:23,700
gonna do. Firstly, I'm going to
say that Anna Chapman wants to

1358
01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:26,640
marry Snowden that'll piss
everybody off. Then I want you

1359
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,730
guys to pretend like you're
being forced down. But he's not

1360
01:19:29,730 --> 01:19:33,060
he is requested to land. And the
two things if you need to make

1361
01:19:33,060 --> 01:19:35,790
an unscheduled stop or some
change that is not a part of

1362
01:19:35,790 --> 01:19:38,790
your flight plan. The two things
you use are one. Oh, man,

1363
01:19:38,790 --> 01:19:41,460
there's something wrong with the
fuel. We don't know because you

1364
01:19:41,460 --> 01:19:44,640
didn't declare an emergency. You
see, declaring an emergency is a

1365
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,530
whole different level. He said
no, no, as a precautionary

1366
01:19:46,530 --> 01:19:49,080
measure. We might have something
wrong with the fuel. We want to

1367
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,720
land. The other one which you
use in smaller aircraft and

1368
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,510
every pilot will know this. You
say? Yeah, we have passenger

1369
01:19:54,510 --> 01:19:57,030
who's sick. In other words, you
know that we got someone puking

1370
01:19:57,030 --> 01:19:59,850
in your cockpit and you want to
land and you just want to get

1371
01:19:59,850 --> 01:20:02,370
them out. because it smells a
puke and you want to stop, and

1372
01:20:02,370 --> 01:20:05,430
though they're both usually
lies, because you just want to

1373
01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:08,790
convert to a different flight
plan you want to land somewhere

1374
01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:14,190
you were too lazy to file etc.
To this does not jive with, they

1375
01:20:14,190 --> 01:20:17,520
were not allowed to enter
airspace, they were blocked. No,

1376
01:20:17,700 --> 01:20:22,050
they they did it made an
unscheduled stop. And it was

1377
01:20:22,050 --> 01:20:25,620
their request and it was a lie
that brought him down. But this

1378
01:20:25,620 --> 01:20:28,890
whole thing South America is I
think what Putin is doing is

1379
01:20:28,890 --> 01:20:31,560
saying, Okay, you want to
surround everything here. You

1380
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,350
want all your rockets, you want
to put everything here you want

1381
01:20:34,350 --> 01:20:38,280
it. You want Syria, you got your
stuff in Poland, you got all of

1382
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,130
North Africa, how about it get
South America all I'm waiting

1383
01:20:41,130 --> 01:20:45,060
for now is for Mexico to start
saying something to us that we

1384
01:20:45,060 --> 01:20:46,830
John C. Dvorak: had to put in
the Red Book Mexico, Mexico,

1385
01:20:46,860 --> 01:20:47,340
Mexico,

1386
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:53,280
Adam Curry: Mexico next. This is
cold war. And I think Did you

1387
01:20:53,280 --> 01:21:00,030
hear Bolivia Venezuela in and
Argentina this is like all of

1388
01:21:00,030 --> 01:21:03,240
South America is an upward Well
I think the Russians pretty much

1389
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:04,890
have deals with all of those
countries

1390
01:21:06,930 --> 01:21:11,100
John C. Dvorak: No, it's It's
becoming quite funny to us. Now

1391
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:14,070
what was the point or was you
think that this was bogus where

1392
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:17,520
they came in and searched the
plane for supposedly for Snowden

1393
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:18,390
but there was the plane

1394
01:21:18,930 --> 01:21:22,230
Adam Curry: made? Maybe they
just continued with the ruse and

1395
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:26,190
had look if they really had a
fuel indicator problem, then it

1396
01:21:26,190 --> 01:21:29,730
can take quite a while to get
someone out to look knows this

1397
01:21:29,730 --> 01:21:32,880
Trident jet and knows how to
look at the fuel indicator you

1398
01:21:32,910 --> 01:21:36,510
you kind of have to keep the
roof going whatever. But they

1399
01:21:36,510 --> 01:21:39,450
asked if they needed assistance.
This is not a forced landing.

1400
01:21:39,870 --> 01:21:44,250
This is not like someone
checking. This is all all a lie.

1401
01:21:44,610 --> 01:21:53,220
None of it is true. None of it
that's why we are by the way, I

1402
01:21:53,220 --> 01:21:58,230
want to thank who was it our
producer who was very very kind

1403
01:21:58,230 --> 01:22:02,550
the only one by the way, as far
as I know. Oops, I'm going the

1404
01:22:02,550 --> 01:22:07,740
wrong way here. Tyler, who sent
us that he had just heard the

1405
01:22:07,740 --> 01:22:11,970
show and sent us a flurry of
emails he's Oh man, I got this

1406
01:22:11,970 --> 01:22:16,410
PowerShell script and figured it
out we can use it to vote 4000

1407
01:22:16,410 --> 01:22:19,980
times and like it was like two
hours left for voting.

1408
01:22:21,270 --> 01:22:23,970
John C. Dvorak: I really have to
get hold of Tyler about a month

1409
01:22:23,970 --> 01:22:29,400
before next year show set up
about 25 of these things and

1410
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:30,510
just bomb

1411
01:22:30,540 --> 01:22:34,770
Adam Curry: but when we have no
chance John we have we have no I

1412
01:22:34,770 --> 01:22:35,190
think if

1413
01:22:35,190 --> 01:22:37,530
John C. Dvorak: we have enough
people that will set up the

1414
01:22:37,530 --> 01:22:40,140
script and run it overnight.

1415
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,380
Adam Curry: I won't feel good
about that. I'm not gonna I

1416
01:22:43,380 --> 01:22:46,410
don't care. Let me tell you how
I feel okay, please.

1417
01:22:46,440 --> 01:22:49,410
John C. Dvorak: I'm gonna give
you my story. So we had there

1418
01:22:49,410 --> 01:22:54,630
was a used to be the Comdex use
of this famous Chili Cook Off.

1419
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:58,770
And the initial Chili Cook goes
yeah, yeah, the first chili cook

1420
01:22:58,770 --> 01:23:06,240
off. I won had professional
judges and my chili was is was

1421
01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:10,410
one because it's chili was a
little off. It was not a

1422
01:23:10,410 --> 01:23:14,010
standard. It was a better
tasting chili is a reasonable

1423
01:23:14,010 --> 01:23:17,430
one. And the professional judges
recognize it for what it was a

1424
01:23:17,550 --> 01:23:20,970
very, very good. And I do have a
recipe that I distribute I'll

1425
01:23:20,970 --> 01:23:26,040
put in the next newsletter. So
the so the chili guys are the

1426
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,430
competitors that mostly one guy
from Texas, who was also a

1427
01:23:29,430 --> 01:23:35,700
columnist was pissed about this.
He demanded that they have the

1428
01:23:35,700 --> 01:23:40,380
judging have a People's Choice
Award because he believed that

1429
01:23:40,380 --> 01:23:43,320
people were over at his booth
telling him what a great chili

1430
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,530
he made and says he was Texas.
He knew a chili was an Iowan

1431
01:23:46,530 --> 01:23:46,680
from

1432
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,810
Adam Curry: California. The
judges, of course, were stupid

1433
01:23:48,810 --> 01:23:50,910
and didn't know what they were
talking about. Yeah,

1434
01:23:50,970 --> 01:23:53,430
John C. Dvorak: so so the next
year, they had the professional

1435
01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:57,990
judges and they had the People's
Choice Awards. And everybody who

1436
01:23:57,990 --> 01:24:00,690
got into the event, they had
three coins and they could go

1437
01:24:00,690 --> 01:24:04,980
around tasting chili and drop a
coin to the buckets. So I hired

1438
01:24:04,980 --> 01:24:09,600
two models that were showgirls
to Joel

1439
01:24:11,340 --> 01:24:15,210
Adam Curry: Wayman, you back up
for a second. So you're in

1440
01:24:15,210 --> 01:24:20,520
Vegas, you're like, I'm going to
win this. Do you then go to a

1441
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,940
Vegas theater? Or do you go to a
strip club to find these guys?

1442
01:24:23,940 --> 01:24:25,050
Did you find the girls

1443
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:26,220
John C. Dvorak: modeling
agencies?

1444
01:24:26,340 --> 01:24:29,550
Adam Curry: If you call the
modeling agency? Yeah. Okay.

1445
01:24:30,090 --> 01:24:34,590
John C. Dvorak: So I hired two
gorgeous six foot showgirls, and

1446
01:24:34,590 --> 01:24:38,190
had them in show girl regalia.
They were pretty tight. I also

1447
01:24:38,190 --> 01:24:41,100
had an and the joke of it, of
course at the very end, but

1448
01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:43,620
anyway, so I had to two girls at
the booth and they were also

1449
01:24:43,620 --> 01:24:46,230
greeting when people came in,
says, oh, you should vote for

1450
01:24:46,230 --> 01:24:50,970
divorce. You should throw all
your coins into DeVore X pot and

1451
01:24:50,970 --> 01:24:55,020
so they just, you know, sweet
talk people into voting for my

1452
01:24:55,020 --> 01:24:59,250
chili for people's choice award,
right which, of course I won.

1453
01:24:59,670 --> 01:25:03,810
And I had the two girls ARM and
ARM escort me up the steps to

1454
01:25:03,810 --> 01:25:05,190
accept the award. I am

1455
01:25:05,190 --> 01:25:07,500
Adam Curry: googling now. Is
there any evidence of this? Are

1456
01:25:07,500 --> 01:25:09,810
there any pictures of you and
showgirls?

1457
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,820
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, a lot of
people talk it was a little buzz

1458
01:25:11,820 --> 01:25:14,400
it was a buzz about about tell
you this the guy from Texas and

1459
01:25:14,610 --> 01:25:16,950
the other people know who even
know I'm talking about. The guy

1460
01:25:16,950 --> 01:25:24,000
from Texas was just livid.
Because it was his idea of one

1461
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,700
that year. That's the joke that
Chili's, they had changed the

1462
01:25:26,700 --> 01:25:29,490
judging a little bit. And I
realized when I tasted all the

1463
01:25:29,490 --> 01:25:32,640
chilies that had won by the
professional judges that I did

1464
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,600
not amp up the ancho flavor
because apparently whoever these

1465
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:40,920
judges, they just love the
flavor of ancho which is a

1466
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:46,980
certain chili that has a very
distinct chili, but I won the

1467
01:25:46,980 --> 01:25:50,700
People's Choice Award that's
quite feel about these things.

1468
01:25:50,700 --> 01:25:51,660
Okay, well, then I

1469
01:25:51,660 --> 01:25:56,100
Adam Curry: have an idea instead
of getting all these scripts

1470
01:25:56,100 --> 01:26:00,600
running next time, why don't we
just hire two girls and we'll

1471
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:05,310
have them you know, we'll set up
a sequence where for every vote

1472
01:26:05,310 --> 01:26:08,340
every time you vote and you have
to send us your proof of voting

1473
01:26:08,340 --> 01:26:11,340
and you can go back every single
day you will for every 1000

1474
01:26:11,340 --> 01:26:13,800
votes or whatever it is they'll
take off a piece of clothing and

1475
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:14,730
we'll post the picture

1476
01:26:16,650 --> 01:26:20,400
John C. Dvorak: Hey, that
compared to bots, that idea is

1477
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,280
not going to get it get the job
done. I like it I don't know.

1478
01:26:25,980 --> 01:26:28,440
We'll come in from both sides
and come up with the bots that

1479
01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:30,450
come in with the girls can't
lose

1480
01:26:30,990 --> 01:26:32,760
Adam Curry: will come on with
the bots will come in with the

1481
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:37,890
girls we're gonna rock it real
credits is what we give away on

1482
01:26:37,890 --> 01:26:40,620
this program. So Associate
Executive Producer and executive

1483
01:26:40,620 --> 01:26:44,010
producer you can put it on your
IMDB in your email signature on

1484
01:26:44,010 --> 01:26:46,950
your resume and unlike the fake
phonies in Hollywood will

1485
01:26:46,950 --> 01:26:49,110
actually vouch for you if
someone wants to know if you

1486
01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:51,810
were actually were a producer on
a real show and I think that

1487
01:26:52,350 --> 01:26:56,310
this qualifies as one all of you
other slaves out there please go

1488
01:26:56,310 --> 01:27:00,960
propagate it is this. We go out
yet people in the mouth

1489
01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:18,000
world stay with me now. Shut up.
And I did want to say a big in

1490
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,480
the morning to brand new human
resource and Gitmo nation. Her

1491
01:27:21,480 --> 01:27:27,780
name is Wednesday, Kane. Born as
7:07pm Last night just in time

1492
01:27:27,780 --> 01:27:31,470
to catch Sunday show. She's a
month early but she couldn't

1493
01:27:31,470 --> 01:27:33,900
wait to get out there and hit
people in the mouth.

1494
01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:37,440
John C. Dvorak: She was born on
Saturday named Wednesday Yeah.

1495
01:27:38,940 --> 01:27:41,880
Adam Curry: I know I love it.
It's awesome.

1496
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,600
John C. Dvorak: Worry name
Wednesday, Wednesday. I don't

1497
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:54,840
know. My parents were hippies so
let's play with Joe so Canada's

1498
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,420
having a big Did you know we
lost a couple of Canadian

1499
01:27:57,450 --> 01:28:02,070
listeners over the last few days
I saw one yeah once tweeted me

1500
01:28:02,070 --> 01:28:06,150
saying you suck. I hate your
show. Now. What did we do? You

1501
01:28:06,150 --> 01:28:08,430
never say did you can't tell
what Twitter because they don't

1502
01:28:08,430 --> 01:28:09,990
have enough time to express
themselves.

1503
01:28:10,559 --> 01:28:14,489
Adam Curry: Oh, I ran out of
characters. Sorry. We suck we

1504
01:28:14,489 --> 01:28:14,849
did. So

1505
01:28:14,850 --> 01:28:17,220
John C. Dvorak: I clicked on him
and I found He's a Canadian guy.

1506
01:28:17,220 --> 01:28:19,830
And so I said oh, what because
then I immediately banned him.

1507
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:20,550
And

1508
01:28:21,900 --> 01:28:25,350
Adam Curry: this is a policy
John. When people say you suck,

1509
01:28:25,350 --> 01:28:26,550
you just block him? Is that what
you

1510
01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:29,010
John C. Dvorak: do? Because I
don't use Twitter for that kind

1511
01:28:29,010 --> 01:28:30,240
of thing. I use my email.

1512
01:28:30,690 --> 01:28:33,270
Adam Curry: So you block them
there too. You block everything

1513
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:34,020
and everybody

1514
01:28:34,049 --> 01:28:37,589
John C. Dvorak: I don't need it.
I already know I suck. So I just

1515
01:28:37,589 --> 01:28:42,419
redundant. You will obey you
will obey you will obey.

1516
01:28:42,690 --> 01:28:46,770
Adam Curry: Hey, big up to get
my nation that was Iceland. What

1517
01:28:46,770 --> 01:28:48,270
is good my nation volcano.

1518
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,070
John C. Dvorak: That's what it
is glacier. How

1519
01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:54,510
Adam Curry: about glacier, no,
the BS, volcanoes. Volcanoes. So

1520
01:28:54,510 --> 01:28:59,010
big up to the people of Gitmo
nation volcano, who yesterday

1521
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:03,300
had a referendum vote. Now if
you'll recall, they had the

1522
01:29:03,300 --> 01:29:07,800
whole country melted down
because Iceland bank ski or

1523
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:11,610
something like that. had lent
all this had the savings

1524
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:15,780
accounts for citizens of Gitmo
nation east the United Kingdom

1525
01:29:15,780 --> 01:29:17,940
and get my get my nation
lowlands, which of course was a

1526
01:29:17,940 --> 01:29:21,870
total scam. And people had these
internet savings accounts with

1527
01:29:21,870 --> 01:29:25,500
really high interest. Yeah,
like, you know, hello, if it's

1528
01:29:25,500 --> 01:29:28,290
too good to be true, it sounds
too good to be true. It probably

1529
01:29:28,290 --> 01:29:32,910
is to the bank man fell apart.
And then what the International

1530
01:29:32,910 --> 01:29:38,430
Banksters said is, well, listen,
slaves there. In Iceland, you're

1531
01:29:38,430 --> 01:29:41,280
gonna have to pay it back. It'll
just have to have austerity

1532
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,950
measures and all kinds of you'll
have to pay it back. And they

1533
01:29:43,950 --> 01:29:47,880
went, we don't think so. And so
then they brought in some new

1534
01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:51,390
shills of the government and
everyone's too afraid to sign

1535
01:29:51,390 --> 01:29:53,460
off on it because they know if
anyone in government would say,

1536
01:29:53,460 --> 01:29:56,700
All right, let the human
resources work for 30 years to

1537
01:29:56,700 --> 01:30:00,570
pay it back. That will get
killed. So that They were too

1538
01:30:00,570 --> 01:30:03,930
chickenshit to do it, excuse the
language. So they held a

1539
01:30:03,930 --> 01:30:09,120
referendum and Big ups to the,
to the human resources there.

1540
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,850
They all they voted no, like,
No, we're not gonna pay that

1541
01:30:11,850 --> 01:30:15,480
back. Screw you. And now of
course, everyone's freaking out.

1542
01:30:16,860 --> 01:30:19,860
So because the governments of
the Netherlands and the United

1543
01:30:19,860 --> 01:30:24,690
Kingdom already paid back the
money to the people who invested

1544
01:30:24,750 --> 01:30:25,050
with

1545
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:28,320
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this is
like, this is like getting you

1546
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,770
know, to me, this is like those
scams that took place some years

1547
01:30:31,770 --> 01:30:36,030
back during the modem era, where
you would call up a website,

1548
01:30:36,030 --> 01:30:38,130
because this way you did it
directly, and it would it would

1549
01:30:38,130 --> 01:30:41,580
be a scam, and it would redirect
a call to Romania, which is a

1550
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,530
per minute call of $100.

1551
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:45,120
Adam Curry: You get a huge
phone, you

1552
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,300
John C. Dvorak: get a huge bill
for $30,000. And then the phone

1553
01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:50,040
company says hey, there's
nothing we can do about an

1554
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,740
international tariffs. It's an
agreement, we can't do anything

1555
01:30:52,740 --> 01:30:55,980
about it. So you're basically
they're all part and parcel of a

1556
01:30:55,980 --> 01:31:00,360
scam to take your money. And
it's like, you know, when it's

1557
01:31:00,390 --> 01:31:04,110
bull crap, is it illegal? The
whole thing was illegal. It was

1558
01:31:04,110 --> 01:31:07,170
it was it was, it's
unconscionable that they would

1559
01:31:07,470 --> 01:31:09,990
still try to well, let's see, we
can jerk them around some more.

1560
01:31:09,990 --> 01:31:12,750
Adam Curry: I'm glad they did.
Well, of course, just

1561
01:31:12,750 --> 01:31:13,560
John C. Dvorak: say no. You

1562
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:16,710
Adam Curry: will recall that
when this thing first came down,

1563
01:31:16,740 --> 01:31:21,360
what was the first thing that
Gitmo nation east? Gordon Brown

1564
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:25,260
at the time? What did he say? He
remember, as I recall, he said

1565
01:31:25,260 --> 01:31:28,500
they were a party they were
terrorist. Don't you remember

1566
01:31:28,500 --> 01:31:32,220
that? He called me he said
they're terrorists and therefore

1567
01:31:32,220 --> 01:31:34,830
they have to be locked out of
everything. You can't do trade

1568
01:31:34,830 --> 01:31:38,430
with them. Invoking the
terrorism law. That's the first

1569
01:31:38,430 --> 01:31:42,930
thing he did he called Iceland a
terrorist state. Now that was

1570
01:31:42,930 --> 01:31:45,240
his way of of kicking their ass

1571
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,340
John C. Dvorak: temporary the
problem that we have with this

1572
01:31:47,340 --> 01:31:49,650
whole terrorism crap there

1573
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:54,930
Adam Curry: is as terrorises
world. Fair isn't. Yeah, yeah.

1574
01:31:55,110 --> 01:31:56,160
So it could just

1575
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,710
John C. Dvorak: find a way here
and there to show suggest, and I

1576
01:31:58,710 --> 01:32:01,500
think this is a good name, which
would be get mon nation Puffin.

1577
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:06,300
Since Puffin, yeah, but if you
go to Iceland on Have you ever

1578
01:32:06,300 --> 01:32:10,020
been there but all they need is
Puffin. They have Puffin burgers

1579
01:32:10,020 --> 01:32:13,350
and they have roast Puffin and
then there's Puffin steaks and

1580
01:32:13,350 --> 01:32:13,620
there's

1581
01:32:13,650 --> 01:32:15,780
Adam Curry: All right, let's
have a referendum, shall we?

1582
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:17,670
Fried Puffin?

1583
01:32:17,970 --> 01:32:21,000
John C. Dvorak: What is Puffin?
Puffin is a cutest look it up.

1584
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,580
Look it up in the book of
knowledge. Puffin is the cutest

1585
01:32:23,580 --> 01:32:27,330
bird in the world. But it's
like, it's like the pigeon of

1586
01:32:27,330 --> 01:32:27,780
Iceland.

1587
01:32:28,710 --> 01:32:30,600
Adam Curry: I'm not gonna eat a
puffin.

1588
01:32:30,660 --> 01:32:32,550
John C. Dvorak: It doesn't
beautiful. It's a beautiful

1589
01:32:32,550 --> 01:32:36,420
bird. I don't want to grab them
and they choke them. They choke

1590
01:32:36,420 --> 01:32:41,070
them, and then they rip it. So
they choke the Puffin. And then

1591
01:32:41,070 --> 01:32:43,320
they they grind him in the beat.

1592
01:32:43,950 --> 01:32:46,530
Adam Curry: These guys are
terrorists. Wait a minute, we

1593
01:32:46,530 --> 01:32:49,860
can't just like kill the Puffin
humanely. You have to choke him?

1594
01:32:50,460 --> 01:32:52,290
John C. Dvorak: Well, I didn't
know that. Hey, John. Hey, John.

1595
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:56,220
Hey, John. After the show, I'm
gonna go choke the puffing. Go

1596
01:32:56,220 --> 01:32:59,640
choke the pump at the pump and
on your own time

1597
01:32:59,970 --> 01:33:03,150
Adam Curry: to get one nation
choke the Puffin. Change the BS

1598
01:33:03,150 --> 01:33:04,590
filter, we have a new name.

1599
01:33:04,950 --> 01:33:06,600
John C. Dvorak: But I was the
sole thing is kind of

1600
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,150
interesting. But it reminds me
of when I used to be a factory

1601
01:33:09,150 --> 01:33:14,040
worker during my college days.
And I realized at this point,

1602
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,070
and I think this is true, even
though I believe the two of us

1603
01:33:17,070 --> 01:33:22,830
are clean and sober to say the
least. Generally, and but there

1604
01:33:23,190 --> 01:33:25,710
Well, I was working this this
International Harvester for a

1605
01:33:25,710 --> 01:33:29,040
while and I worked one whole
summer and I was working, I

1606
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,770
could never keep up with the
demands of the simple job of

1607
01:33:32,010 --> 01:33:34,170
there was a there's a sub
assembly that I was responsible

1608
01:33:34,170 --> 01:33:38,400
for making. And I had to make
something as in submarine or a

1609
01:33:38,430 --> 01:33:42,030
sub assembly site. This was part
of the brake system. And it was

1610
01:33:42,030 --> 01:33:44,730
like a little there was a device
that had a couple of hoses on

1611
01:33:44,730 --> 01:33:46,530
it. And they had to put a thing
here and a thing there you had

1612
01:33:46,530 --> 01:33:50,610
to drill out this to put a cap I
it's about a nine step process.

1613
01:33:50,610 --> 01:33:53,700
And I had to make these things
all day. That's when I that's

1614
01:33:53,700 --> 01:33:56,160
the point at which I learned
that if you want to work in

1615
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:58,680
factories in the United States,
and I always advise this to

1616
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,680
people or factories anywhere
learn to become either a

1617
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:06,510
receiving clerk or an inspector
inspector and the inspectors the

1618
01:34:06,510 --> 01:34:09,450
best job there is and it doesn't
take much and it's just a it's a

1619
01:34:09,450 --> 01:34:14,220
good job. Anyway, while I'm
doing this thing no one wasn't

1620
01:34:14,220 --> 01:34:17,190
hired. Turns out that later
turns out there was a big drug

1621
01:34:17,370 --> 01:34:20,760
bust in both the General Motors
plant and also at the

1622
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:24,270
International Harvester place
where the these guys were strung

1623
01:34:24,270 --> 01:34:28,530
out on amphetamines. And that's
the old and because I was never

1624
01:34:28,650 --> 01:34:30,870
I could never keep up with it
with the quota. The guy was

1625
01:34:30,870 --> 01:34:34,200
always being traded. Yeah, why
behind your 1000s of units that

1626
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:37,770
you're not done. That's why you
got to take the cokes so these

1627
01:34:37,770 --> 01:34:40,950
guys were all it was
methamphetamines, the beans. And

1628
01:34:40,950 --> 01:34:44,850
so these guys What did you call
them? Beans, beans

1629
01:34:44,850 --> 01:34:46,800
Adam Curry: and green beans man
Benny. So

1630
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,570
John C. Dvorak: they used
apparently these guys are down

1631
01:34:48,570 --> 01:34:51,540
in these things all day. They
were just completely wasted on

1632
01:34:51,540 --> 01:34:53,580
drugs and they could get this
they could get their production

1633
01:34:53,580 --> 01:34:56,790
numbers up. And I think that
this is again if we look at it.

1634
01:34:56,940 --> 01:34:59,970
They always say the United
States is laced with cocaine.

1635
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,460
and all kinds of other
performance enhancing drugs.

1636
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,610
Because there's so many demands
on the workers. That's why our

1637
01:35:05,610 --> 01:35:08,970
productivity so high, but at the
same time, let's face reality

1638
01:35:08,970 --> 01:35:12,450
about this stuff. This is the
way it is. legalized drugs for

1639
01:35:12,450 --> 01:35:15,810
God's sake. All right, yeah,
done.

1640
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:20,700
Adam Curry: Right. Cool. I
should try some of that. Why?

1641
01:35:22,050 --> 01:35:24,330
I've never I've never done coke
in my life ever.

1642
01:35:24,930 --> 01:35:26,790
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well,
yeah, I would avoid it. If I as

1643
01:35:26,790 --> 01:35:31,320
your personality might be fine.
I would avoid having done E. I

1644
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,480
Adam Curry: haven't done coke I
weed. That's the only thing I've

1645
01:35:33,480 --> 01:35:37,800
ever had. I think in college, I
snorted a diet pill. But it is

1646
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:41,190
very troubling. That this is
going on. And I think we're

1647
01:35:41,190 --> 01:35:43,830
gonna see more and more of this.
This is all just oh, there's a

1648
01:35:43,950 --> 01:35:46,470
John C. Dvorak: lot of stuff
going on all around the place. I

1649
01:35:46,470 --> 01:35:50,400
mean, one of the things, riots
everywhere that we're not that

1650
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,260
are not getting reported. In
fact, when they're getting

1651
01:35:52,260 --> 01:35:58,620
reported by their own people, I
have a clip from Van cat. About

1652
01:35:58,890 --> 01:36:03,870
which is just so bogus, because
I mean, there's riots all over

1653
01:36:03,870 --> 01:36:07,320
France. And the reasons are
pretty obvious to everybody who

1654
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:10,020
just do that. Ask people whether
writing would play this French

1655
01:36:10,020 --> 01:36:13,770
or I think that this is not the
neither unreported situation in

1656
01:36:13,770 --> 01:36:15,000
the US. So we

1657
01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:18,750
Adam Curry: played a clip I
think two weeks ago, when this

1658
01:36:18,750 --> 01:36:19,440
all started,

1659
01:36:19,769 --> 01:36:22,559
Unknown: they pulled drivers
from their cars and stole the

1660
01:36:22,559 --> 01:36:26,999
vehicles and they burned down a
school and Youth Center. Dozens

1661
01:36:26,999 --> 01:36:30,389
of young men rioted in a
troubled district in northern

1662
01:36:30,389 --> 01:36:34,319
France this week. The police
department in a mule says at

1663
01:36:34,319 --> 01:36:38,399
least 16 officers were injured
after rioters lob stones at

1664
01:36:38,399 --> 01:36:42,959
them. But about 100 young men
were involved it wasn't clear

1665
01:36:42,989 --> 01:36:46,589
what exactly caused the unrest
French Prime Ministers or mark

1666
01:36:46,589 --> 01:36:50,789
gay Hall has promised to deal
with troublemakers with a from

1667
01:36:50,789 --> 01:36:51,419
hand.

1668
01:36:52,049 --> 01:36:54,959
John C. Dvorak: It was it was a
troubled neighborhood you name

1669
01:36:54,959 --> 01:36:59,039
where the immigrants what caused
a disturbance? No. Branch

1670
01:36:59,039 --> 01:37:03,599
reaction to Oh, blonde. Yeah,
being full of crap if it would

1671
01:37:03,599 --> 01:37:07,109
if if the American mentality
wasn't so passive. And if we

1672
01:37:07,109 --> 01:37:10,049
were like the French, this would
have happened within the first

1673
01:37:10,049 --> 01:37:12,629
year of Obama's administration
when he didn't close get Monix

1674
01:37:12,629 --> 01:37:14,789
didn't immediately end the war
and all the other things he

1675
01:37:14,789 --> 01:37:19,979
promised take that to the bank.
And then doing nothing and then

1676
01:37:19,979 --> 01:37:23,819
going off and killing Americans
without due process. We'd be

1677
01:37:23,819 --> 01:37:26,819
writing but we don't take the
French right at the drop of a

1678
01:37:26,819 --> 01:37:32,429
hat when somebody lies to them
like Oh, Lon did. Yep. That's

1679
01:37:32,429 --> 01:37:36,809
all it is. And all we don't know
what's causing this unrest. So

1680
01:37:36,809 --> 01:37:37,229
how long

1681
01:37:37,230 --> 01:37:39,150
Adam Curry: do you think this
will last before it happens

1682
01:37:39,150 --> 01:37:41,460
here? Do you think we'll ever
get any unrest here in the

1683
01:37:41,460 --> 01:37:42,630
United States of Gitmo,

1684
01:37:42,660 --> 01:37:47,340
John C. Dvorak: we had a lot of
this president in the new years

1685
01:37:47,370 --> 01:37:52,290
leading up to the 1970 economic
downturn that that lasted a

1686
01:37:52,290 --> 01:37:56,160
decade. And a lot of it was
triggered by the Vietnam War,

1687
01:37:56,190 --> 01:37:58,680
because people were, you know,
you had a draft and so people

1688
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,620
were bitching about that. And
then there was the Watts riots,

1689
01:38:01,620 --> 01:38:05,010
which was amazingly huge, and
the Detroit riots, which but

1690
01:38:05,010 --> 01:38:07,710
these are black on black riots,
those were and then you have the

1691
01:38:07,830 --> 01:38:10,950
student riots, there's lots of
rioting that used to take place

1692
01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:15,300
and used all been deconstructed
by the government locked down.

1693
01:38:15,480 --> 01:38:18,900
And there's been methodologies
put in place that prove that if

1694
01:38:18,900 --> 01:38:22,500
pacified the whole country,
celebrity worship and all the

1695
01:38:22,500 --> 01:38:26,910
rest of it's very complex, very
well done, there is no chance.

1696
01:38:27,090 --> 01:38:29,460
There'll be something I'll break
out once in a while. But then

1697
01:38:29,460 --> 01:38:32,280
the propaganda machine will come
out like you'd like they've done

1698
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:35,730
with these vets, they're picking
up and get it everybody a bug in

1699
01:38:35,730 --> 01:38:37,890
everyone's mind to think a
certain way. Oh, these are

1700
01:38:37,890 --> 01:38:40,230
terrible people. And they're,
you know, they're anti American,

1701
01:38:40,230 --> 01:38:42,600
they're terrorists. I mean, we
got the whole thing set up. So

1702
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:46,410
you can't do a thing. We're
locked down. And the terrorism

1703
01:38:46,410 --> 01:38:49,260
thing is part of it. So is the
TSA. I do need to

1704
01:38:49,260 --> 01:38:51,330
Adam Curry: bring you some more
reports from this dinner because

1705
01:38:51,330 --> 01:38:53,400
there were some other
interesting things we discussed,

1706
01:38:53,700 --> 01:38:59,040
particularly with Professor
Pennebaker, who I was, you know,

1707
01:38:59,220 --> 01:39:02,100
you can kind of eased into it
kind of let him know that I had

1708
01:39:02,100 --> 01:39:06,930
read his book. And I said, you
know, this performance that was

1709
01:39:06,930 --> 01:39:10,950
really quite, quite fantastic.
And he's just launched into it.

1710
01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:13,050
He told everything couldn't no
one knew what I was talking

1711
01:39:13,050 --> 01:39:16,860
about, except Mickey. And then
so he explains performative VHS.

1712
01:39:17,580 --> 01:39:19,920
And for those who don't know,
it's where typically a

1713
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,740
politician will say things like,
let me be clear. And then

1714
01:39:22,740 --> 01:39:25,530
whatever he says after that
doesn't matter, because he

1715
01:39:25,530 --> 01:39:27,570
already told the truth, because
he just wanted to be clear,

1716
01:39:27,570 --> 01:39:29,910
didn't want to tell you the
truth. He was

1717
01:39:29,910 --> 01:39:32,280
John C. Dvorak: just you wanted
to be clear. My favorite while I

1718
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:34,860
was thinking about this the
other day, and I realized the

1719
01:39:34,860 --> 01:39:38,400
Kennedys had had a distinct one
that caught on for a while, and

1720
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,670
then it kind of dropped off and
it's Ted Kennedy use it, but

1721
01:39:41,670 --> 01:39:45,930
John Kennedy used to say it all
the time. And it was this. Let

1722
01:39:45,930 --> 01:39:50,340
me say this, about that. That's
the best one right. I think

1723
01:39:50,340 --> 01:39:53,160
that's the best one. Say this
about that. Yeah, that's a good

1724
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:55,680
way to say this, about that. But
what you're gonna say next is

1725
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:57,330
like could be anything. Well,
here's

1726
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,970
Adam Curry: I'll just give an
example a recent one from Steven

1727
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,530
Barbara the Canadian is

1728
01:40:02,190 --> 01:40:04,380
Unknown: and the prime minister
is also defending his actions

1729
01:40:04,380 --> 01:40:07,410
following new revelations in the
Senate expenses scandal. Here's

1730
01:40:07,410 --> 01:40:09,960
what he had to say when asked
about the payment between his

1731
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,870
former Chief of Staff Nigel
Wright and conservative Senator

1732
01:40:13,110 --> 01:40:16,560
Mike Duffy. First of all, let me
be very clear on this I've been

1733
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,060
clear clear repeatedly I

1734
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,720
Adam Curry: double whammy. I've
been clear repeatedly let me be

1735
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:24,720
clear about this learned of this
on May the 15th. I learned of

1736
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:27,540
this May that it just doesn't
stop. It's all performances I

1737
01:40:27,540 --> 01:40:29,730
learned of this I made this
information available to the

1738
01:40:29,730 --> 01:40:35,280
public, the people of Canada. So
that's basically what it is. And

1739
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:38,220
then later, I forget who it was
one of our producers said the

1740
01:40:38,220 --> 01:40:41,790
presidential oath is essentially
the biggest performative because

1741
01:40:41,790 --> 01:40:44,940
it says I hear do by solemnly
swear that to the best of my

1742
01:40:44,940 --> 01:40:48,000
ability, like okay, thanks. Good
night, go home. Doesn't matter

1743
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,150
what you say, after that.
Pennebaker. I thought he was

1744
01:40:51,150 --> 01:40:54,000
going to shit himself. He's
like, Oh, my God, I never

1745
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,270
thought of that one. So now I'm
on the inside right now. I'm

1746
01:40:57,270 --> 01:41:02,400
like, Hey, this is good. Tell me
some more. He's, and he's, so I

1747
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:05,070
want to get into his research,
which hasn't been published yet.

1748
01:41:06,030 --> 01:41:09,780
And he has computer programs,
and he does a lot with pronouns.

1749
01:41:10,170 --> 01:41:14,850
So he has computer programs that
calculate the use of certain

1750
01:41:14,850 --> 01:41:21,750
words, but it's the words like I
am we are, that they're they

1751
01:41:21,780 --> 01:41:26,430
these types of things. And he
has several proven theorems that

1752
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:30,060
that he can point to. And the
first thing he told me about

1753
01:41:30,060 --> 01:41:35,070
was, as you can also see if, if
a right if a writer was male, or

1754
01:41:35,070 --> 01:41:40,680
female. And he's done some very
interesting studies, to see how

1755
01:41:40,710 --> 01:41:44,580
good playwrights were at writing
male or female characters, etc.

1756
01:41:45,090 --> 01:41:49,560
And just to give you an example,
all of the female characters in

1757
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:54,000
Quentin Tarantino movies are
extremely written as extreme

1758
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:58,440
males. So are those of
Shakespeare. And he has studied

1759
01:41:58,440 --> 01:42:01,320
all the American presidents and
he said about Barack Obama, he

1760
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:05,280
said, It's unbelievable that
every single American president

1761
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:09,720
is 100% Macho male, Barack Obama
could not be more female. He

1762
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,780
says, it's like a woman is
writing his stuff. I said,

1763
01:42:12,780 --> 01:42:18,330
Valerie Jarrett, he didn't get
it. But no, but he says, the

1764
01:42:18,330 --> 01:42:23,730
way, the show the way he the way
the President talks speaks, it's

1765
01:42:23,730 --> 01:42:27,060
all very soft. A little wishy
washy says it but he's doing it

1766
01:42:27,060 --> 01:42:31,470
with scientific with, with word
counts. And yeah, there

1767
01:42:31,470 --> 01:42:33,240
John C. Dvorak: are a lot of
there's actually a bunch of

1768
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:36,090
computer programs that attempt
to do this, and you can run,

1769
01:42:36,540 --> 01:42:40,440
I've run professional writers,
copy through a bunch of these

1770
01:42:40,440 --> 01:42:45,300
systems. And you can find, you
can, you can always spot a

1771
01:42:45,300 --> 01:42:49,980
female writer of, but you can,
you can see them trending to

1772
01:42:49,980 --> 01:42:52,920
female. Most professional
writers are all trained

1773
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,830
similarly, so that the female
and this come from a

1774
01:42:55,830 --> 01:42:58,740
professional professionals have
a professional style that

1775
01:42:58,740 --> 01:43:02,700
they've developed from training
and editing. And they tend to be

1776
01:43:02,700 --> 01:43:06,510
kind of mostly, if not all male,
even if they're women, and

1777
01:43:06,510 --> 01:43:09,000
there's like normal people that
just right away, they're just

1778
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:12,390
writing naturally. They I think
it's easier with them. I think

1779
01:43:12,390 --> 01:43:13,980
it's harder with professionals,
he

1780
01:43:13,980 --> 01:43:15,960
Adam Curry: Well, of course, if
a professional is trying to

1781
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,660
write, you know, a great writer
can write a woman's character

1782
01:43:18,660 --> 01:43:20,940
the way a woman thinks, you
know, I think that that would be

1783
01:43:20,940 --> 01:43:22,440
the hallmark of a great writer.

1784
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,080
John C. Dvorak: I don't think
so. I don't think that's the

1785
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:28,020
hallmark of a great writer being
able to become a woman.

1786
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:30,900
Adam Curry: No. Okay, you're
right.

1787
01:43:30,900 --> 01:43:32,370
John C. Dvorak: I'm not even
sure you're right. Many great

1788
01:43:32,370 --> 01:43:34,740
writers have ever accomplished
what you just said, Well, he

1789
01:43:34,740 --> 01:43:38,340
Adam Curry: has done this exact
study. And what great writers

1790
01:43:38,340 --> 01:43:42,030
have done it? Well, I don't I
don't have that information.

1791
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:48,450
Handy. But if you look at it
doesn't. I would say that it's

1792
01:43:48,810 --> 01:43:51,360
it may be challenging to write
like a woman if you don't know

1793
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,580
what you're doing to actually
write from a female's

1794
01:43:53,580 --> 01:43:56,580
perspective and to end for it to
come out in the computer

1795
01:43:56,580 --> 01:43:59,940
analysis as a woman but
sometimes it may not be

1796
01:43:59,940 --> 01:44:03,720
necessary. Ergo Quentin
Tarantino is characters, his

1797
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:06,930
female characters are all
extremely male, and his movies

1798
01:44:06,930 --> 01:44:10,560
seem to do fine. So it's just
it's just the point that you can

1799
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,650
distinguish between men and
women in the writing in general.

1800
01:44:14,070 --> 01:44:14,790
Is that fair?

1801
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:20,160
John C. Dvorak: I'd say it's
it's partially true I think if

1802
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,200
you want to make the argument
I'm not gonna argue against it

1803
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,770
but it's still you know, it's
what his research shows and his

1804
01:44:25,770 --> 01:44:28,200
roster he's probably coming up
with that but I don't know if

1805
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:30,720
he's studying just professionals
you study No, no, no,

1806
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:33,000
Adam Curry: no, no, no, not at
all. No, no, in fact far from

1807
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:38,130
it. And the reason why he does
this is is the ultimate reason

1808
01:44:38,130 --> 01:44:41,880
is to see that if you he's of
all about writing certain things

1809
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,490
if you had traumatic experiences
and you can actually heal

1810
01:44:44,490 --> 01:44:48,690
yourself so his this is all just
side research, which by the way

1811
01:44:48,690 --> 01:44:51,090
is now going to Bing This is
very interesting, because

1812
01:44:51,090 --> 01:44:53,670
that's, these guys all got
consulting gigs. It's very

1813
01:44:53,670 --> 01:44:57,510
interesting. So Bing, looks like
the search engine is going to be

1814
01:44:57,510 --> 01:45:01,110
looking at some some fun things.
Now The way things are written

1815
01:45:01,230 --> 01:45:05,280
but of course you know these
guys are vibing on Twitter and

1816
01:45:05,580 --> 01:45:09,540
and all this these incredible
datasets that we have and what

1817
01:45:09,540 --> 01:45:13,320
he's done is he said if you go
and look at the pronouns

1818
01:45:13,440 --> 01:45:16,470
particularly the use of AI words
that every single president has

1819
01:45:16,470 --> 01:45:21,360
used before warfare in speeches
etc you can see that right

1820
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:26,100
before they are about to attack
or do something their use of AI

1821
01:45:26,130 --> 01:45:31,260
goes down significantly so
George W with Iraq senior with

1822
01:45:31,260 --> 01:45:36,270
the with the first Gulf War
Nixon I mean that he's gone back

1823
01:45:36,270 --> 01:45:41,490
I studied that and and I rolled
How about Obama says no, we

1824
01:45:41,490 --> 01:45:44,160
haven't really done that
research so we have to

1825
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:45,900
John C. Dvorak: admit she's
going to find that little

1826
01:45:45,900 --> 01:45:48,960
country Miss there because if
you remember, we've spotted this

1827
01:45:49,290 --> 01:45:56,250
when the when they got Bin
Laden, it was I he's a very I or

1828
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:56,640
rarely,

1829
01:45:56,970 --> 01:46:00,990
Adam Curry: or for and this is
where I'm going. It didn't

1830
01:46:00,990 --> 01:46:05,370
actually happen. No intention.
It's all it's nice. Yeah, that's

1831
01:46:05,370 --> 01:46:06,480
John C. Dvorak: actually a good
one. Yeah, that's

1832
01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:09,330
Adam Curry: the way I see it.
Um, so there was this is well,

1833
01:46:09,330 --> 01:46:12,060
let me see if I can first let me
do second half of the show stuff

1834
01:46:12,060 --> 01:46:14,460
because people requesting it and
they feel that I'm lacking a

1835
01:46:14,460 --> 01:46:14,820
little bit.

1836
01:46:14,850 --> 01:46:16,500
John C. Dvorak: Are you gonna
talk Wait, wait, let me can I

1837
01:46:16,500 --> 01:46:21,450
get kicked make a wild guess.
You can talk about the aliens

1838
01:46:21,450 --> 01:46:24,270
that Obama.

1839
01:46:25,020 --> 01:46:27,060
Adam Curry: That was pretty
funny. He was a shapeshifter.

1840
01:46:27,450 --> 01:46:31,200
Yeah, shapeshifter. Yeah. That
was a couple of weeks ago. Now.

1841
01:46:31,410 --> 01:46:33,630
Then we know, we know. He's got
shapeshifters What are we gonna

1842
01:46:33,630 --> 01:46:34,680
do sit here in town,

1843
01:46:34,710 --> 01:46:37,950
John C. Dvorak: shapeshifter,
what? Michelle Obama?

1844
01:46:38,550 --> 01:46:40,170
Adam Curry: Possibly, possibly.

1845
01:46:40,620 --> 01:46:42,930
John C. Dvorak: No, I mean,
we've gone that diet.

1846
01:46:43,890 --> 01:46:45,870
Adam Curry: Now we know that
they're shapeshifters we know

1847
01:46:45,870 --> 01:46:48,600
that they employ them. This is
not this is not a new

1848
01:46:48,870 --> 01:46:49,710
John C. Dvorak: year we're gonna
do.

1849
01:46:51,420 --> 01:46:54,960
Adam Curry: This is so funny. So
you know, just to prove my point

1850
01:46:55,020 --> 01:46:58,740
that Twitter, you know, gay,
Andy Carvin. Hello, and the ad

1851
01:46:58,740 --> 01:47:01,830
and a carbon. And I pay
attention to this dude,

1852
01:47:01,860 --> 01:47:06,000
Unknown: earlier this year 500
Or so Twitter's received tweets

1853
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:10,890
from someone with the handle at
James M. Titus, who posed one of

1854
01:47:10,890 --> 01:47:14,940
several generic questions. How
long do you want to live to, for

1855
01:47:14,940 --> 01:47:19,530
example? Or do you have any
pets? At James M. Titus was

1856
01:47:19,530 --> 01:47:23,130
cheerful and enthusiastic. Kind
of like those people who comment

1857
01:47:23,130 --> 01:47:26,850
on the weather, and then laugh
heartily, perhaps because of

1858
01:47:26,850 --> 01:47:30,330
that good nature, or perhaps
because of his inquiring spirit

1859
01:47:30,330 --> 01:47:34,140
and interest in others. At James
M. Titus was able to strike up a

1860
01:47:34,140 --> 01:47:38,010
fair number of continuing
conversations. Only thing is,

1861
01:47:38,460 --> 01:47:44,130
there is no James M. Titus, he
or it is a bot, a software

1862
01:47:44,130 --> 01:47:47,550
program designed to engage
actual humans and social

1863
01:47:47,550 --> 01:47:50,130
networks. He grew out of a
contest.

1864
01:47:50,220 --> 01:47:54,540
Adam Curry: Okay, so this is a
bot. Right? Which I think a lot

1865
01:47:54,540 --> 01:47:57,720
of these things are. And if
they're not bots, and they're,

1866
01:47:58,050 --> 01:48:01,500
you know, they're systems that
are controlled by one person who

1867
01:48:01,500 --> 01:48:04,680
controls multiple personalities.
Yeah, that's the best way to do

1868
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:04,980
it. Yeah.

1869
01:48:05,010 --> 01:48:07,080
John C. Dvorak: Where do you
think this bot was created?

1870
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:10,380
John? Probably Washington DC
someplace.

1871
01:48:10,380 --> 01:48:13,590
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, no, no
new new revised

1872
01:48:13,590 --> 01:48:17,460
Unknown: a social bot a contest
staged by a group of techies

1873
01:48:17,460 --> 01:48:21,810
calling themselves the web
ecology project. Tim Wong is the

1874
01:48:21,810 --> 01:48:25,080
director of the web ecology
project. He joins us from

1875
01:48:25,110 --> 01:48:26,550
Berkeley, California.

1876
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:29,160
John C. Dvorak: I said perfectly
you did. I didn't

1877
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:32,070
Adam Curry: hear you say that,
of course is spook Central is

1878
01:48:32,070 --> 01:48:36,030
Berkeley. It's Pennsylvania and
it's Arlington. This

1879
01:48:37,260 --> 01:48:39,720
John C. Dvorak: week, people
would new listeners of the show,

1880
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:44,580
we've determined based on the
ling-ling thing and that was

1881
01:48:44,580 --> 01:48:49,950
captured outside of Iran,
Berkeley has become some sort of

1882
01:48:49,950 --> 01:48:52,410
a training ground especially
that school of journalism for

1883
01:48:52,410 --> 01:48:55,050
the for various CIA operatives.

1884
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:58,500
Adam Curry: Let me now I have
something that'll just be so

1885
01:48:58,500 --> 01:49:02,400
much fun to listen to. As you
know, I'm always out there

1886
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:06,300
looking for what's going on in
the world of choo choo trains on

1887
01:49:06,300 --> 01:49:17,490
the board trains planes now, so
you know, I subscribe to the RSS

1888
01:49:17,490 --> 01:49:22,410
feed of the US high speed rail
Association, who have their own

1889
01:49:22,410 --> 01:49:26,520
little website website. Now this
of course, is the shill

1890
01:49:27,660 --> 01:49:30,570
organization that is trying to
steal all this money to do all

1891
01:49:30,570 --> 01:49:33,120
this crazy crap for trains that
we don't need, which will only

1892
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:37,170
benefit Berkshire Hathaway and
other people who actually Bill

1893
01:49:37,170 --> 01:49:40,740
Gates apparently owns a large
chunk of the railroad as well as

1894
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:44,640
some I don't know which freight
outfit he owns.

1895
01:49:44,940 --> 01:49:49,620
John C. Dvorak: Cx CTA. X maybe
CSX. Yes, excellent.

1896
01:49:50,460 --> 01:49:55,230
Adam Curry: So they they've got
this clip homepage. And Andy

1897
01:49:55,230 --> 01:50:00,000
Coons, who he looks exactly the
way his name sounds and the cool

1898
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:05,820
Owens is on Fox Business. I
think what the Varney show was

1899
01:50:05,820 --> 01:50:06,870
at Fox Business.

1900
01:50:07,919 --> 01:50:10,919
John C. Dvorak: Maybe Stuart
varney? Maybe Yeah, no. And so

1901
01:50:10,919 --> 01:50:11,339
they have

1902
01:50:11,340 --> 01:50:15,150
Adam Curry: this listed as Andy
coons promoting high speed rail

1903
01:50:15,150 --> 01:50:17,640
on like, Okay, this will be a
puff piece, but it's the biggest

1904
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:21,960
fail in the world. And I can't
believe that these guys are so

1905
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:24,540
brazen, they actually put this
on their website, like it's a

1906
01:50:24,540 --> 01:50:28,290
good score for high speed rail,
because I have to say, the

1907
01:50:28,290 --> 01:50:34,020
Stuart Varney guy, who's a Brit,
totally nails the guy. And it's

1908
01:50:34,020 --> 01:50:37,560
just one hilarious moment after
another. And you can hear the

1909
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:41,100
entire elitist agenda from the
get go and be here.

1910
01:50:41,129 --> 01:50:44,309
Unknown: Here's where I'm coming
from. You cannot build a high

1911
01:50:44,309 --> 01:50:47,249
speed rail system in the United
States, it will take you

1912
01:50:47,399 --> 01:50:52,349
decades, if not a half century.
And that delay adds to the cost

1913
01:50:52,379 --> 01:50:55,799
making it wildly over expensive.
And you say,

1914
01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:00,390
Well, it took us 40 years to
build our interstate highway

1915
01:51:00,390 --> 01:51:02,820
system. It's a big
infrastructure project. It's the

1916
01:51:02,820 --> 01:51:05,760
21st century we need to do it
and we need to get going on it.

1917
01:51:08,850 --> 01:51:12,060
Adam Curry: We need to do it. We
just need to do it shut up. We

1918
01:51:12,060 --> 01:51:15,150
need to do we got to get going
on it. This is his This isn't

1919
01:51:15,150 --> 01:51:17,640
how he starts off. I'm like this
will be interesting believe

1920
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:19,410
John C. Dvorak: they keep up on
it. I mean, the fact that this

1921
01:51:19,410 --> 01:51:20,340
high speed rail

1922
01:51:22,290 --> 01:51:24,750
Adam Curry: listen to Marty,
because he basically he's, he

1923
01:51:24,750 --> 01:51:27,420
has all of our hands. No, he's
very good. He has all of our

1924
01:51:27,420 --> 01:51:28,140
talking points. So

1925
01:51:28,140 --> 01:51:30,330
Unknown: you agree with me that
you can't build it within a

1926
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:34,470
period of decades, literally, I
presume you also agree with me

1927
01:51:34,470 --> 01:51:36,930
that the longer the delay, the
greater the expense, so

1928
01:51:36,930 --> 01:51:38,610
therefore, we cannot afford it.

1929
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:41,970
Or we have to build it. I mean,
I don't know what else we're

1930
01:51:41,970 --> 01:51:45,780
gonna have for transportation in
20 years from now. Well, what do

1931
01:51:45,780 --> 01:51:48,120
Adam Curry: you mean, this is
this is already a done deal. We

1932
01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:52,350
have to build it. Yeah, we have
to build it. Yeah, I got the

1933
01:51:52,350 --> 01:51:55,740
president. I got Oh, Biden. I
got George W. Obama, everyone's

1934
01:51:55,740 --> 01:51:57,840
on board. What are you talking
about? We have to build it?

1935
01:51:57,870 --> 01:52:02,370
What's your problem? varn.
What's wrong with what? I'm

1936
01:52:02,370 --> 01:52:02,640
sorry.

1937
01:52:05,100 --> 01:52:07,860
Unknown: They're dependent on
oil that's spiraling out of

1938
01:52:07,860 --> 01:52:08,820
control and price.

1939
01:52:08,820 --> 01:52:13,680
So your position depends
entirely on the ever rising cost

1940
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:18,090
of fuel, which we use, we cannot
afford. But we can afford to

1941
01:52:18,090 --> 01:52:21,540
build a wildly expensive high
speed rail system that will take

1942
01:52:21,540 --> 01:52:23,280
decades to put in place. So this
guy

1943
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:26,640
Adam Curry: is actually saying
it's because of the spiraling

1944
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:29,760
cost of oil that we have to
build trains, which apparently

1945
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:35,850
run on water magic. Yeah. Total
magnetic magic or something like

1946
01:52:35,850 --> 01:52:37,290
that. Really, it's actually

1947
01:52:37,290 --> 01:52:40,350
Unknown: would cost the entire
national system would cost about

1948
01:52:40,350 --> 01:52:43,350
one quarter of what we spent on
the interstate highway system.

1949
01:52:43,350 --> 01:52:46,170
So it's actually not wildly
expensive. It's a big

1950
01:52:46,170 --> 01:52:50,070
infrastructure project covering
17,000 miles, of course, is

1951
01:52:50,070 --> 01:52:52,500
going to be expensive. Anything
we do that size is going to be

1952
01:52:52,500 --> 01:52:53,070
expensive.

1953
01:52:53,700 --> 01:52:57,750
Okay, do I have to pay for it?
There was a proposal to put a

1954
01:52:57,750 --> 01:53:00,750
high speed rail system in place
in Florida, the government of

1955
01:53:00,750 --> 01:53:03,240
Florida said, No, we're not
going to do it. Because we can't

1956
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:06,360
afford for it afford it and we
don't want to pay for it. And

1957
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:06,870
you say,

1958
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:10,950
Well, if we want a system we
have to pay for we have to pay

1959
01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:13,620
for airports, we have to pay for
roads. I mean, we're paying for

1960
01:53:13,620 --> 01:53:16,380
all that we need to do this. And
this is how we're going to move

1961
01:53:16,380 --> 01:53:18,180
the nation into the 21st
century.

1962
01:53:18,210 --> 01:53:20,580
Adam Curry: Can you believe
that? This? This is the guy

1963
01:53:20,580 --> 01:53:24,960
who's the CEO. It's just the
best they can do they know and

1964
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:28,590
they have this on the website
like it's do a better job

1965
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:32,790
getting your sleep with one
eyebrow tied behind your back.

1966
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:36,630
This is crazy. We have to pay
for it. Of course we have to pay

1967
01:53:36,630 --> 01:53:36,930
for it.

1968
01:53:37,890 --> 01:53:40,590
Unknown: Is there no cost which
is too expensive?

1969
01:53:41,940 --> 01:53:44,010
I don't see that. It's too
expensive. I mean, when you

1970
01:53:44,010 --> 01:53:46,950
figure out the amount of
mobility you get per dollar

1971
01:53:46,950 --> 01:53:50,280
spent, it's a much greater
bargain then roads or airports

1972
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:50,850
combined,

1973
01:53:50,879 --> 01:53:54,479
whatever. How many billions of
dollars was it going to the

1974
01:53:54,509 --> 01:53:58,619
first estimate to go from Tampa
St. Pete to Orlando? How many

1975
01:53:58,619 --> 01:54:00,119
billions first estimate

1976
01:54:00,180 --> 01:54:03,960
and the final estimate was about
2.9 billion. So now

1977
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:05,700
Adam Curry: it gets very
interesting because now Varney

1978
01:54:05,700 --> 01:54:09,990
starts to trap him. And the guy
actually falls right into the

1979
01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:14,820
trap which really explains why
this high speed rail will never

1980
01:54:14,820 --> 01:54:17,700
get built in our lifetime and
it'll be too expensive. If they

1981
01:54:17,700 --> 01:54:19,980
really continue down this road.
He does a good job of trapping

1982
01:54:19,980 --> 01:54:21,120
the guy $2.9

1983
01:54:21,150 --> 01:54:24,390
Unknown: billion but just that
relatively short stretch, right

1984
01:54:24,419 --> 01:54:28,259
but we spent four times that
much on AI for the Interstate

1985
01:54:28,259 --> 01:54:30,059
between those that little short
stretch

1986
01:54:30,089 --> 01:54:33,479
Yeah, but it's in place we've
got it while we spent the money.

1987
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,510
Adam Curry: We spend the money
because it's been the money

1988
01:54:36,570 --> 01:54:37,050
that's been

1989
01:54:37,410 --> 01:54:40,950
Unknown: how long would it take
to build Tampa St. Pete to fly

1990
01:54:40,950 --> 01:54:41,910
to Orlando

1991
01:54:42,210 --> 01:54:45,780
a decade away about two to three
years. No,

1992
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:51,060
you cannot be serious you
absolutely boy in Florida will

1993
01:54:51,060 --> 01:54:54,270
jump on this and say not across
my land. You haven't compensated

1994
01:54:54,270 --> 01:54:54,630
me enough.

1995
01:54:54,660 --> 01:54:56,010
Adam Curry: It's so here's where
he traps

1996
01:54:56,459 --> 01:54:59,039
Unknown: not anyone's land. It's
down the interstate. That was

1997
01:54:59,039 --> 01:55:01,559
the easiest system again. As it
was the interstate of the

1998
01:55:01,559 --> 01:55:02,699
highway, I forgot

1999
01:55:03,330 --> 01:55:06,870
to interrupt some lizard or some
tortoise or some bird that flies

2000
01:55:06,870 --> 01:55:07,470
overhead.

2001
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:11,340
It's already it's already a
transportation corridor. So that

2002
01:55:11,340 --> 01:55:13,620
was an easy setup that was
easiest one

2003
01:55:13,620 --> 01:55:15,780
Adam Curry: in America. See what
an idiot the guy is. He's

2004
01:55:15,780 --> 01:55:18,450
actually tilting his hand by
saying, Well, this is why we

2005
01:55:18,450 --> 01:55:21,180
started off with the easy ones
because we can show some wins

2006
01:55:21,180 --> 01:55:24,480
within two years. And the rest
will take 100 years to build

2007
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:28,410
because everyone's gonna like
try and stop it. I think

2008
01:55:28,410 --> 01:55:33,450
Barney's genius in this room did
a good job. Yeah,

2009
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,190
John C. Dvorak: Bernie's pretty
good. I've seen him a couple of

2010
01:55:35,190 --> 01:55:39,630
times. They're, they're grooming
him to perhaps get a fox news

2011
01:55:39,630 --> 01:55:42,300
show really. He's in Fox
Business and they bring him over

2012
01:55:42,300 --> 01:55:45,330
once in a while, you know, they
got him into peloton, or they

2013
01:55:45,330 --> 01:55:50,010
kind of queued up because he got
the Glenn Beck spot opening. And

2014
01:55:50,010 --> 01:55:52,410
they're, they're rearranging
other people there, they're

2015
01:55:52,410 --> 01:55:53,220
gonna move on.

2016
01:55:53,220 --> 01:55:55,080
Adam Curry: And just let me just
give you the final blow because

2017
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:56,160
he really nails the guy at

2018
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:59,160
Unknown: the end to at a $91
billion worth. So

2019
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:01,230
Adam Curry: he's talking about
China, you know, like $291

2020
01:56:01,230 --> 01:56:04,230
billion in the hole. This is
what you want for the United

2021
01:56:04,230 --> 01:56:04,740
States. So

2022
01:56:04,740 --> 01:56:07,830
Unknown: debt for the Chinese
high speed rail system, one

2023
01:56:07,830 --> 01:56:11,880
Chinese Professor describes it
as bit worse than the subprime

2024
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:14,460
crash is coming to China because
of this.

2025
01:56:16,230 --> 01:56:20,400
Well, I don't know. I mean,
we're spending five times that

2026
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:23,370
on a war that we're not even
getting anything. We're not

2027
01:56:23,370 --> 01:56:26,400
getting a rail system, we're not
getting, you know, we're not

2028
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:29,490
getting a strong rotation system
out of that. I'm sorry, I've

2029
01:56:29,490 --> 01:56:29,940
wasted

2030
01:56:29,940 --> 01:56:32,460
so much time in this interview.
That's where you're coming from.

2031
01:56:32,670 --> 01:56:36,210
You're saying that because we
spent what a trillion dollars in

2032
01:56:36,210 --> 01:56:40,650
Iraq, that we're spending that
to secure the oil, we should be

2033
01:56:40,650 --> 01:56:43,170
spending that on high speed
rail? Is that your argument?

2034
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:47,580
What I'm saying is is that we
have gone into debt to do a war,

2035
01:56:47,610 --> 01:56:50,610
which we're not gonna get any
benefit of China's going into

2036
01:56:50,610 --> 01:56:51,330
debt to build

2037
01:56:52,710 --> 01:56:55,680
Adam Curry: nails into the wall.
But go ahead, go go look at the

2038
01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:58,920
US high speed rail Association.
It's on their homepage and it

2039
01:56:58,920 --> 01:56:59,370
says there

2040
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:02,010
John C. Dvorak: what are they
thinking Andy Koons promotes

2041
01:57:02,010 --> 01:57:05,010
high speed rail on Fox Good job,
Andy.

2042
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:07,710
Adam Curry: There'll be a little
something extra in your paycheck

2043
01:57:07,710 --> 01:57:08,550
today.

2044
01:57:08,670 --> 01:57:12,120
John C. Dvorak: Next time put
him on MSNBC with a play the gap

2045
01:57:12,150 --> 01:57:14,280
Adam Curry: really is like how
stupid can you get to put them

2046
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:17,670
on with this guy? I thought it
was and then

2047
01:57:17,670 --> 01:57:21,120
John C. Dvorak: show it and then
be paying money. You know, maybe

2048
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:22,890
you should get take this off the
can you take it out of the

2049
01:57:22,890 --> 01:57:23,520
archives?

2050
01:57:24,690 --> 01:57:27,840
Adam Curry: I've been doing a DC
DMCA request takedown from

2051
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:31,500
Google now instead instead. What
is this the brilliant Hill and

2052
01:57:31,500 --> 01:57:34,050
Knowlton? I mean, they did they
change this?

2053
01:57:34,770 --> 01:57:36,060
John C. Dvorak: I'll tell you
what it is. You know what?

2054
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:38,910
Please? Oh, the Hill and
Knowlton is still doing it. But

2055
01:57:38,910 --> 01:57:41,970
here's what happens is classic
public and anyone out there runs

2056
01:57:41,970 --> 01:57:45,810
a corporation that uses these
agencies will say yep, the var x

2057
01:57:45,810 --> 01:57:49,440
right. They start you off with
the heavy hitters and the big

2058
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:54,120
fees every month and then very
slowly. You start bringing in

2059
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:55,410
the interns. Yeah, you

2060
01:57:55,410 --> 01:57:57,390
Adam Curry: get the interns on
the job. No, I

2061
01:57:57,390 --> 01:57:59,490
John C. Dvorak: think Dorothy
Dorothy, she's new but she's

2062
01:57:59,490 --> 01:58:02,460
she's really talented. She just
came out of Cornell and she

2063
01:58:02,460 --> 01:58:06,450
chose to be able to handle it.
No problem. Cornell Bill stays

2064
01:58:06,450 --> 01:58:08,490
the same bonehead.

2065
01:58:08,519 --> 01:58:11,099
Adam Curry: You're so right.
It's so right. They first they

2066
01:58:11,099 --> 01:58:14,849
got the guys who did the pitch
come in. And they roll out for

2067
01:58:14,879 --> 01:58:17,549
probably on an account like
this, they probably do six

2068
01:58:17,549 --> 01:58:19,739
months. Maybe a little longer

2069
01:58:19,830 --> 01:58:21,180
John C. Dvorak: at a probably a
million a month.

2070
01:58:21,930 --> 01:58:25,170
Adam Curry: At least. And that's
and that's excluding costs and

2071
01:58:26,820 --> 01:58:30,300
you know, the, you know, like
travel and hookers and stuff.

2072
01:58:31,530 --> 01:58:37,260
Fantastic. Just I love it. Great
job. So I don't know where Andy

2073
01:58:37,260 --> 01:58:41,550
Koons came from. But he's not
doing a very good job. He's kind

2074
01:58:41,550 --> 01:58:44,250
of making our argument for us. I
really appreciate it.

2075
01:58:44,580 --> 01:58:46,230
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, we
don't make the argument that

2076
01:58:46,230 --> 01:58:48,720
much anymore. I think we'd beat
it to death. It's so obvious,

2077
01:58:48,750 --> 01:58:53,010
but it's kind of now it's just
falling apart on its own

2078
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:53,670
typical.

2079
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:06,330
Adam Curry: I like that line.
resume normal activity citizen.

2080
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:08,370
Well, they're not citizens. They
didn't say that. And

2081
01:59:08,370 --> 01:59:10,680
John C. Dvorak: that cool. Yeah,
that's the future ladies and

2082
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:11,940
gentlemen. All right.

2083
01:59:11,970 --> 01:59:18,390
Adam Curry: aliens.curry.com. An
actual picture of an alien as a

2084
01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:21,960
Portuguese website. Aliens. Are
you going there?

2085
01:59:22,290 --> 01:59:24,330
John C. Dvorak: I'm just writing
down something for the no go

2086
01:59:24,330 --> 01:59:25,560
before the chat room does.
You'll

2087
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:27,990
Adam Curry: lose out aliens not
curry.com. Go Go. Go

2088
01:59:27,990 --> 01:59:30,330
John C. Dvorak: go go. Yeah, and
I'm getting him to confess they

2089
01:59:30,330 --> 01:59:31,290
can get Hurry

2090
01:59:31,290 --> 01:59:32,910
Adam Curry: up. You're gonna
lose out. You'll never get it.

2091
01:59:33,090 --> 01:59:35,940
John C. Dvorak: That guy hit it.
I'm hitting it. There it is. I

2092
01:59:35,940 --> 01:59:38,280
got it. I got it just in time.
This guy's butt.

2093
01:59:39,090 --> 01:59:42,960
Adam Curry: And Angular Merkel.
They took these pictures on a

2094
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:48,720
vacation How awesome is

2095
01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:50,340
John C. Dvorak: that? That's
pretty awesome.

2096
01:59:50,969 --> 01:59:53,489
Adam Curry: And she's angry.
Because that's only for the

2097
01:59:53,489 --> 01:59:55,619
celebrating. She says you
shouldn't be doing that to

2098
01:59:55,619 --> 01:59:57,689
politicians. Yeah, they got her
butt.

2099
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:00,480
John C. Dvorak: Butt hanging
out. At

2100
02:00:01,709 --> 02:00:02,939
Adam Curry: shapeshifting

2101
02:00:08,519 --> 02:00:10,439
John C. Dvorak: like you guys
get here's the English version

2102
02:00:10,439 --> 02:00:12,959
of the cover of her white
bathrobe Merkel took off her

2103
02:00:12,959 --> 02:00:19,949
swimwear calmly and expose her
saggy and fat buttocks. Oops.

2104
02:00:21,179 --> 02:00:25,319
Awesome, right? Very good. Yeah.

2105
02:00:27,870 --> 02:00:30,900
Adam Curry: Well, in Australia,
and we thought it was bad with

2106
02:00:30,900 --> 02:00:31,800
the BBC.

2107
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:35,220
Unknown: I'd actually inquiry
into child sex abuse as opened

2108
02:00:35,250 --> 02:00:39,720
in Australia, with more than
5000 people expected to testify

2109
02:00:39,930 --> 02:00:43,560
about abuse in places like
churches, sports clubs,

2110
02:00:43,770 --> 02:00:46,140
orphanages, and detention
centers.

2111
02:00:47,370 --> 02:00:51,480
Adam Curry: What? Why was this
not front page news everywhere?

2112
02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:54,840
5000 people are going to
testify. Oh, no, I'm sorry. It's

2113
02:00:54,840 --> 02:00:55,380
much more

2114
02:00:55,410 --> 02:00:57,660
Unknown: Prime Minister Julia
Gillard warned Australians

2115
02:00:57,750 --> 02:01:01,470
there'll be confronted with some
very uncomfortable truths. She

2116
02:01:01,470 --> 02:01:04,740
said the Royal Commission now
underway is an important moral

2117
02:01:04,740 --> 02:01:09,060
moment for Australia. Well,
let's go live to the BBC is Nick

2118
02:01:09,060 --> 02:01:13,290
Bryan in Sydney? Nick, this
doesn't go away. It gets worse.

2119
02:01:13,500 --> 02:01:16,710
Is Australia prepared for what's
about to heated on this issue?

2120
02:01:19,770 --> 02:01:23,370
Well, according to some child
sexual abuse experts that I've

2121
02:01:23,370 --> 02:01:26,730
been listening to this afternoon
know, you mentioned the figure

2122
02:01:26,730 --> 02:01:31,440
5000 people expected to testify
before this public inquiry that

2123
02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:35,820
called Royal commissions here.
But Child child sex abuse

2124
02:01:35,820 --> 02:01:40,290
experts saying the number could
be nearer to 100,000 people.

2125
02:01:41,370 --> 02:01:45,810
Adam Curry: 100,000 people,
John, what is going on there in

2126
02:01:45,810 --> 02:01:46,650
Australia?

2127
02:01:47,070 --> 02:01:50,970
John C. Dvorak: Apparently a lot
of the bugger

2128
02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:56,670
Adam Curry: frightening man.
That is That's outrageous.

2129
02:01:57,690 --> 02:01:59,910
John C. Dvorak: 100 1000s You
see how that shakes out. But

2130
02:01:59,910 --> 02:02:03,360
sports clubs, everything. It
sounds like everything except

2131
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:04,590
the grocery store has the

2132
02:02:04,590 --> 02:02:06,780
Unknown: Royal Commission goes
around the country hearing

2133
02:02:06,780 --> 02:02:10,650
evidence. It's so that many more
people might come, which is one

2134
02:02:10,650 --> 02:02:13,020
of the reasons why the head of
the commission has said that

2135
02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:15,720
they're not going to be able to
produce the report that has been

2136
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:18,540
asked of them by the Australian
government by the deadline. And

2137
02:02:18,540 --> 02:02:20,160
that's the end of 2015. So

2138
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:22,290
Adam Curry: they can't even
write up all the cases for the

2139
02:02:22,290 --> 02:02:28,080
next two years. That's how
rampant it is. We got to chop

2140
02:02:28,080 --> 02:02:29,250
some heads off people.

2141
02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:34,350
Unknown: This is going to be
such a difficult process. They

2142
02:02:34,350 --> 02:02:37,230
want to hear from so many
people. And they want to give

2143
02:02:37,230 --> 02:02:40,620
them the time to tell their
stories that it's going to take

2144
02:02:40,770 --> 02:02:42,000
a lot longer than that.

2145
02:02:42,510 --> 02:02:46,440
Now, what is now emerging about
the moral compass of Australia.

2146
02:02:46,710 --> 02:02:50,190
Adam Curry: It's broken. It's
it's spinning like Gilligan's

2147
02:02:50,190 --> 02:02:51,330
Island, like the minnow

2148
02:02:51,390 --> 02:02:54,780
Unknown: on so many issues like
this is huge.

2149
02:02:57,780 --> 02:03:01,050
That's a big question. I mean,
what the what led to this

2150
02:03:01,050 --> 02:03:05,790
inquiry being set up in the
first place last November was

2151
02:03:05,790 --> 02:03:09,090
allegations directed against the
Roman Catholic Church. So there

2152
02:03:09,090 --> 02:03:13,380
have been sealed evidence of
pedophile priests. And that

2153
02:03:13,380 --> 02:03:16,140
followed many years of
allegations against the Catholic

2154
02:03:16,140 --> 02:03:18,180
Church and did the last pope
when he made a visit to

2155
02:03:18,180 --> 02:03:22,200
Australia had to apologize to
victims of child sex abuse. But

2156
02:03:22,200 --> 02:03:25,710
the fear is Nick, the problem
goes much wider than that.

2157
02:03:26,250 --> 02:03:30,030
There's been child sex abuse in
other institutions, boarding

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schools, orphanages, orphanages,
detention centers, sports and

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recreational clubs. So that's
why there's wide ranging Royal

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Commission equestrian

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Adam Curry: facilities.

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John C. Dvorak: Here's the
thing, you know, maybe the Roman

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02:03:42,719 --> 02:03:45,989
Catholic church thing in all
areas was just a tip of the

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02:03:45,989 --> 02:03:49,859
iceberg or a distraction or a
lightning rod. Because as we saw

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in Pennsylvania at Penn State,
with that guy, there was no

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church related anything. It was
just a bunch of, you know, kids

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02:03:56,219 --> 02:03:58,499
learning how to play football
and and having to deal with this

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02:03:58,499 --> 02:04:01,709
pervert. And then it turns out,
and there was a lot of, you

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02:04:01,709 --> 02:04:04,499
know, there's a lot of evidence
that there was numerous people

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involved in the rest of the
camp, a couple of them. And then

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02:04:07,349 --> 02:04:10,259
as possible, the judicial
system, as you pointed out in

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Holland and elsewhere, is got
this going on. Maybe the whole

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02:04:14,159 --> 02:04:17,579
Catholic thing is just a
lightning rod to keep the real

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picture which is apparently in
Australia. This is not really

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too many Catholics are that I
know of. It's an Anglican

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country, as far as I can tell.
It blew by rather quickly and

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they said wait a minute, it's
it's everywhere we got 100,000

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people that are going to testify
is maybe it's just a cultural

2179
02:04:34,499 --> 02:04:38,189
thing. It's completely out of
control. Well,

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Adam Curry: I think that it's
probably the people who are

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supposed to protect the
children, you know, Child

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Protective Services, I would say
against

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John C. Dvorak: child protective
services by there was a really

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bunch of bad actors and
especially in your state, or the

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02:04:52,500 --> 02:05:00,840
notorious really, I didn't know
that. Oh, yeah. really access to

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02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:03,390
Texas and Child Protective
Services is like a nasty

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02:05:03,390 --> 02:05:04,020
operation

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02:05:04,440 --> 02:05:07,770
Adam Curry: out doesn't look
into it. Hey guys, I hear you

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02:05:07,770 --> 02:05:14,070
guys suck. Can I come and talk
to you give me something great

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02:05:14,070 --> 02:05:16,440
before we get out of here. I
mean that sucks. I'm sorry.

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John C. Dvorak: Let's play.
Here's an interesting play

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02:05:21,839 --> 02:05:28,259
Burston there's so they had this
as se cup as woman who's on

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02:05:28,259 --> 02:05:29,039
MSNBC now

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02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:31,920
Adam Curry: she's kind of like
the token right wing token right

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02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:32,310
winger,

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02:05:32,670 --> 02:05:35,790
John C. Dvorak: and she was on C
span interviewing some

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02:05:35,940 --> 02:05:39,510
millennial kid who was just
could not stop talking about

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02:05:39,510 --> 02:05:42,900
himself and what he thinks the
future is for millennials and,

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02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:46,590
and it was pretty stupid, but
play the first and cannot stop

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02:05:46,590 --> 02:05:49,890
talking clip to when I was

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02:05:49,950 --> 02:05:53,910
Unknown: growing up in the midst
of what's essentially been a 10

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02:05:53,910 --> 02:05:57,300
year war war on terror. How has
that shaped the millennial

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02:05:57,300 --> 02:05:57,930
viewpoint,

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02:05:58,650 --> 02:06:01,080
Adam Curry: it's made this
generation realize that we're

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02:06:01,080 --> 02:06:04,230
part of an interdependent global
world. This is really the first

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02:06:04,230 --> 02:06:11,250
global generation of the rest of
the world being deeply related

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02:06:11,250 --> 02:06:15,270
to us, if you may have been able
to, in some ways live under a

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02:06:15,270 --> 02:06:18,570
rock in previous generations and
be disconnected from the rest of

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02:06:18,570 --> 02:06:21,360
the world and think about, you
know, America only or your

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02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:24,510
country only. But I think we
recognize that and I think

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02:06:25,950 --> 02:06:29,280
John C. Dvorak: it's bull crap.
I mean, World War Two was, and

2212
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:31,830
in fact, most of this
globalization stuff began before

2213
02:06:31,830 --> 02:06:34,410
World War One, which was another
thing that made us real, he's

2214
02:06:34,410 --> 02:06:35,220
full of shit.

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02:06:37,260 --> 02:06:45,180
Adam Curry: It was kind of okay.
Okay, and I just wanted to have

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02:06:45,180 --> 02:06:49,650
a little effect. I like it. We
don't use it enough. Wow. All

2217
02:06:49,650 --> 02:06:53,400
right. Ramsey, Kane, thank you
very much for putting together

2218
02:06:53,400 --> 02:07:00,030
this clip show for episode 610.
We'll be back live streaming on

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02:07:00,030 --> 02:07:01,500
Thursday for 611

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02:07:03,270 --> 02:07:04,350
Unknown: and 11.

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02:07:04,890 --> 02:07:06,210
John C. Dvorak: Donation? Yes.

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02:07:06,420 --> 02:07:07,890
Adam Curry: Well, I'm sure
you'll be sending out a

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02:07:07,890 --> 02:07:08,370
newsletter

2224
02:07:08,370 --> 02:07:10,500
John C. Dvorak: regarding that.
Yes, newsletters will be

2225
02:07:10,500 --> 02:07:11,610
continuing. And thank you

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02:07:11,610 --> 02:07:13,410
Adam Curry: all very much for
your support. Thank you for

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02:07:13,410 --> 02:07:16,710
listening. Thanks for letting us
take this little break. What did

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02:07:16,710 --> 02:07:18,270
you do, John? Exactly. While you
were gone?

2229
02:07:18,510 --> 02:07:20,970
John C. Dvorak: I went to Port
Angeles. Oh, nice. Oh,

2230
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:22,710
Adam Curry: we both celebrated
some wood then.

2231
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:30,120
John C. Dvorak: Yes. Hey. Oh.
Older. Yeah. Celebrating oak.

2232
02:07:31,410 --> 02:07:35,220
Adam Curry: Yes. It's been that
long. You're celebrating oak.

2233
02:07:35,220 --> 02:07:36,030
Holy moly.

2234
02:07:36,900 --> 02:07:38,220
John C. Dvorak: But you said
it's wood.

2235
02:07:39,540 --> 02:07:43,740
Adam Curry: Anyway, so I'm
actually back. I'll be back I

2236
02:07:43,830 --> 02:07:46,830
think Tuesday so plenty of time
to catch up on what's going on

2237
02:07:46,830 --> 02:07:50,460
to parse through the stuff
because what we do so you don't

2238
02:07:50,460 --> 02:07:53,550
have to particularly watching C
span and reading legislation

2239
02:07:53,550 --> 02:07:58,530
until then. From South of the
border in the morning, everybody

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02:07:58,530 --> 02:07:59,310
I'm Adam curry

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02:07:59,370 --> 02:08:02,250
John C. Dvorak: and from
Northern Silicon Valley or North

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02:08:02,250 --> 02:08:05,550
Pacific Northwest. I don't know
if John C Dvorak will talk to

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02:08:05,550 --> 02:08:05,610
you

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02:08:05,610 --> 02:08:08,520
Adam Curry: on Thursday live
right here on no agenda.

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02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:18,900
Unknown: Local police are being
told to look out for suspicious

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02:08:18,900 --> 02:08:23,640
behavior around public
facilities. picture taking map

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02:08:23,640 --> 02:08:30,480
drawing. Evasive driving
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