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What's the worst that could
happen for making these choices?

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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak,
Sunday October 12 2014 and time

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for your getting donation media
assassination episode 660 This

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is no agenda bleeding from the
upper left but it's not Ebola in

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FEMA Region six in the
indispensable nation the capital

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the drones are state in the
morning everybody I'm Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where I shave after the show I'm

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Johnson kill

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really I didn't know there was
protocol but you're probably

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right it probably much smarter
to do

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you don't want to bleed during
the show. Yeah, it's

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hard to talk and you know and
and dabbled in the wound.

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I use a straight straight edge

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not even a safety use a straight
straight razor exploit

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this drops

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the leather Yeah, somehow I
don't I don't believe that.

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So it's what's this about? You
cut yourself shaving? Well, as

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you said, offhandedly, casually
you're growing a beard.

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This was a request. By who by
Ms. Mickey. That's curious.

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Yeah, I thought so too.
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there's a big trend right now
that I've noticed and it's

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cropping up amongst the
douchebags. Amongst the the

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genders. Yeah, the hipster
hipsters that grow beard hair,

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at least or beard. If you can't,
there's actually more in and

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than that close crop thing.
Yeah. And even Jolie Odell

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has a beard.

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Hey, oh, that's possible. Sorry.
Anyway, she had her husband her

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year because she likes she made
a big stink about it. I share

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her and she did on the Twitch
show that she only likes men

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with facial hair. And he Aaron
accidentally or I didn't

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accident, but he cut it off. Cut
his beard off because he I don't

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think he likes having a beard.
And she was hurt. Get him?

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Well, Mickey, welcome. My beard,
of course, is is grayish because

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I'm gray. Although I'm in
transition on the hair

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color. It gets some of the DEB
No, no, no, the whole point.

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The whole point is she thinks is
really masculine and manly. And

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she really likes it and

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has Hemingway.

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Exactly. That's right. The old
man in the sea. The old man in

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the podcast. Man in the podcast,
Ernest Hemingway. No, but she

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she really likes it. And I said,
and I was confused, really? And

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so I got one of those trimmers.
And I don't know if I like it

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that much. It's it's,

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well, why wouldn't you
difference? Does it make what

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you think? Just do what it says?

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You please go to my Twitter
timeline. If you need to see

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this. Okay, and see the retweet
that I did from Mickey. And you

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will see exactly how the
relationship is. I think it's

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it's the most recent thing I
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I've now live more than Jared
traffic. What was the actual

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question?

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You got to look at the retweets
otherwise you won't see it.

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I don't know how you look at the
retweets. You click on my

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profile and says tweets and
retweets says tweets and

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replies,

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I think you need to go the other
one. I don't know. I'm going to

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go to Mickey's twitter then.
It's simple. I'll read it to you

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all

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you do this. I don't know how to
work it. Well, apparently.

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There's a picture some girls
showing her but

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that's something else all
together. That you hear it is

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Sunday morning wisdom and she
has a sign a picture of a sign.

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I'll read the sign to you. If at
first you don't succeed, try

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doing it the way your wife told
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Huh? I see the sign. Yeah. And
that fortunately, okay, I see

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that, but I don't see anything
else. But that's it. That's the

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sign. The sign I'm looking at
the sign. But where's the

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picture of your face?

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No, this has nothing to do with
my face. I'm just saying that's

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what you do. This is how women
are today. Oh, yeah. And this

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was the reason why I'm a little
bit behind a little bit late. We

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had a dinner guests last night.
Oh, producer Mark. And Mark is

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not only the producer of this
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producer of a documentary, which
I believe we have discussed on

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the show. And the documentary is
titled The Global catch, which

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is about the tuna trade. Okay.
And wow, so we're planning this

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is the this we're working on a
trip to Panama.

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You right, I keep forgetting
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Somebody needs to do a jingle
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trip. The trip to Panama

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science to Panama, powered by
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of the trip trip with this
podcast, by the way is powered

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by science. The trip to Panama,
which looks like it's going to

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be February, but we we had a
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of conversation, which is really
what what, in some ways threw me

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off track but also gave me a lot
of material to look into and

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talk about today. We're

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going to be less likely to be
arrested with a beard in Panama.

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Is that the deal?

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Yeah, yeah. Exactly. One is the
for Tula the for Tula Gulin.

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Saga. This is the the holy man
as they say, the holy man who

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has been holy hold up and has
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where the the CIA set him up.
And you'll recall, it was the

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SAR Neff, the Sarnath brothers,
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married to one of the guys from
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Pennsylvania, and he's been
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And he is he's been undermining
air Diwan in Turkey for for as

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for just as as many years, and
he has all the charter schools.

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You recall, we've talked about
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know we've talked about a lot.
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and as you know, Mark is very
interested in perhaps doing

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another documentary, which could
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so you know, we've we've shared
a lot of different he's been

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very inspiring to me to look
into what this guy is doing. And

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he tells me about a documentary
that's coming out, titled, love

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is a verb. Then this documentary
is about the Tula Gulin. And

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when you start to look into this
guy, who, no one has CBS, NBC,

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CNN, New York Times, no one gets
the interview this guy, no one.

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But of course, this Terry
Spencer Hesser, a woman who did

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an Indiegogo fun, crowd funded
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of course, got a full on
interview. And not only after

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she was taken to Turkey, this is
the way this guy operates. Hey,

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coming in, we'll tell you about
the interfaith movement. And

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we'll we'll take you on a free
trip to Turkey and we fly around

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and then all of a sudden,
there's a documentary immediate

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play a little bit of the trailer
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exactly what's almost the full
pitch they use for Indiegogo.

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This is the story of a

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man, a Turkish Muslim. Preacher,
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social activists. In 2013,

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by the way, I apologize, I
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really two separate tracks. This
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Time Magazine named him one of
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the world. Because of his
influence, at risk, children are

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now being educated are being
treated? And starving?

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Are you able to hear that? Are
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No, all I'm getting is data,
data, data, data, data, music.

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Okay, let me do that. Overall,
do you need to be able to hear

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it? Sorry about that. That's
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sound like a long intro to
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This was one channel there's a
voice I received this change.

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This is the story of

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a man, a Turkish Muslim,
scholar, a preacher and the

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global movement of social
activists he inspires me in

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2013, Time Magazine named him
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leaders in the world.

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I don't even recall that that he
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I don't either, but you they
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around and you make up

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what wasn't Hitler a man of the
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Vice I think maybe

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because of his influence, at
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educated in hundreds of
countries. The sick are being

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treated and the starving, often
a great person. It's also

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because of his influence and the
collective power of the

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movement, that for two of the
lands feared and even revived

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within his native Turkey. And as
a Muslim leader of a powerful

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global movement. He is
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where he lives in self imposed
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I love self imposed exile know
he was brought here by the State

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Department in the CIA and he's
been in this compound under

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their guidance action Because
Thank you protection, guidance,

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etc. And he is responsible for
the almost an overthrow of the

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entire Erawan government because
of all of the Gulenists that

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were inside the government, with
this huge scandal has been going

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on for the past three years

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to explore this controversial
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controversial holy man, and the
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Muslims, he inspires. We're
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and Sufi mysticism.

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This is interesting. This I do
not believe is true that now

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they're claiming he's a Sufi,
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and they're in this documentary,
they compare him to Rumi, of all

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things just to make

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Sufis are interesting. People
don't realize until they start

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researching and I didn't believe
it when I first heard it. But

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But bin Laden and many people in
Al Qaeda were all Sufis that

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says enough, then, doesn't it?
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to just a few of the places
where these Idealists are

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working to serve humanity in
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In order to please God, hey,
listen to this. All right. Okay,

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so that's part of that's the
trailer and then here's she has

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a little pitch this. Terry
Spencer Hesser, who likes to let

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everyone know that she's an
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Hi, I'm Terry Spencer Hester and
this is love as a verb. I was

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introduced to the Gulen Movement
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Turkey. I was an award winning
writer and television producer.

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I like doing that. Hey, I'm the
award winning Adam curry.

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Certainly you've heard of me how
you doing? Nice to meet you.

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This certainly

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is like that character.

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And please be my friend the best
selling author, John C. Dvorak.

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You have an award somewhere,
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you? We've had plenty of awards,
actually. Awards talk, I don't

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sit around bragging about I

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love. Hey, I was and I wasn't, I
guess she's no longer an award

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winning screenwriter. It's found
that to be a little strange if

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you don't say that about
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I was introduced to the Gulen
Movement in 2010. I was an award

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winning writer and television
producer. And they were one of

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the largest social movements in
the world. And really, nobody

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knew either of us to document
the works of the movement and

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profiled their laserable.

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What she was a woman I've got
pictures on the screen, she

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looks in sufferable. Here.

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We traveled throughout the
United States to Turkey where

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the movement was born, as well
as Bosnia, Belgium, Iraq, and

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Somalia,

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all related and not unimportant.
To see the connections, we got

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know the Turkish humanitarians
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philosophy of faith to like
Quran,

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which in the Netherlands and
Germany, these schools have been

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closed by governments because
they were madrassas. Yeah. And

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if you look at the his charter
school movement in the United

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States, which a lot of it's in
Texas, but also Pennsylvania, at

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least $100 million from the
government, our government going

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into this, and, of course, being
shuttled through to his movement

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around the world, you know, to
unseat, or at least, put the

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Erdogan government on alert,

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a man named by Time Magazine as
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influential leaders. Before I
began this project, I didn't

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really know any Muslims, nor did
I make an effort to. But I

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believe that in a post 911
world, you should know these

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Muslims. And I think that if
there's any hope for peace in

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the world, fatally Goulandris
example, should be followed.

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This was a very expensive
production, and one that we're

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finally in the finishing stages
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love is a verb and help us to
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the world.

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And they wanted $66,000 and got
more than 100 grand Oh,

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good. Yeah, they should good
sales.

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Well, no, I'm thinking something
different. I'm thinking this is

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Oh, yeah, I know what you're
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way to do it long. Of course,
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all kinds of financing for you
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for propaganda. It's beautiful.
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about presidential candidates
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because Kickstarter, might be
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scam them like this. become
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a movie no one's ever heard
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coming from? That's, I think
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for playwriting. And Christopher
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school thing. I'm telling you,
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Preparing for the Christopher
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into your plans. Preparing a
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learning experience for students
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classes, or for cross curricular
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our president even saying, hey,
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people stand up in the in the
Muslim community and say, you

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know, those ISIL guys, they're
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controlled counter message. And
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And we had a conversation about
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the director, the winner of the
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was vaguely aware that it was
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in America, nor was it a good
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Middle East. But for me, like
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awareness morphed into specific
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Islam and the extreme
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disagree with this. I believe
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after 911 was Bin Laden, al
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Hussein. I think if anything, it
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fear or Am I incorrect? Mickey
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That's a good question. I'm not
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wrong at this point. Thanks.
Well, that's not helpful. Well,

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I don't have an answer to that
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obviously remember it but I
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maybe side with you. And I'll
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did. They kind of went out of
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they're listening to everything
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organizations have to stay in
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one of the more the strongest
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in many instances. And, yeah,
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level, you're right. And she's
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perspective and some level she's
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Now she goes on, she says, then
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from the Niagra foundation. You
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who invited me on an interfaith
trip to Turkey now, the Niagra

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free trip to Turkey Yes. And the
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this guy his name is he's also
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can Burberry Oh glue and that's
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is in fact, if you look up the
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Google's the first thing that
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the sub heads, when they have
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have a Tula Gulin right at the
top. So it says operation.

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Yeah, so she did a documentary
with his money about him. Yeah,

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exactly. As he goes on to say, I
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this? She goes on to say,
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Hey, we're gonna do

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we need to go inside behind the
Koch brothers empire and find

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out if they are good. Guys, they
are. I am not religious, he

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said. But I'm curious and jumped
at any chance to see Turkey and

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to have an adventure with a
culture that was foreign to me.

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I looked at the system what that
woman said, Director,

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I looked at the trip as an
opportunity to discover new

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stories to fill out a free trip
Give me a break. I never dreamed

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it would change my worldview.
After the trip, I decided that

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others worldview had to be
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obey after a lot of reading
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lot of scouting and
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journey has a lot of rugs.

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She's done. I believe she has
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Emmy maybe even two might have
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She says she's won three but we
don't know what kind of Emmys

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because all enemies are the
same. If you have a local news

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story that's really good you'll
get a local me but you can still

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say your Emmy winning report has
an Emmy for doing that character

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on MSNBC when they when MSNBC
had the site, you get an

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immediate he did a virtual
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all. And because of that, yeah,
it Well was it was a very unique

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idea. It was a it was a kind of
a cartoon character that was on

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the SAT and they gave him an
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Here it is about me. Let me say
At Terry Spencer hacer.org Terry

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Spencer hacer a published
novelist, biographer produced

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playwright. That's what she got
the award for in middle school

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award winning screenwriter and
recipient of three Emmy Awards.

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Right now, you just told me that
Leo has won that the Emmys have

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kind of gone down in stature.

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They also the local Emmys or
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Emmys are a different size.
They're not the big clunkers. In

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fact, if somebody's won an Emmy,
you have to ask them, Did you

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get the big clunker here? Did
you get just one of these little

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ones here and then why don't you
just get a little

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Emmy nomination mechanic island
the mecca of the Midwest that

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sounds like a local me a war on
all fronts the life and times of

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Robert Rutherford McCormack
2005. That's an award Emmy

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nomination worried sick 2003
hear is but what's more

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interesting, I think is her
corporate work. wrote and

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produced multiple award winning
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series for the Chicago Community
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management, Roosevelt University
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McDonald's Hewitt and
Associates. So she's one of

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those Nike Gatorade are Kelly
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physicians Northwestern hospital
Chest Physicians Mars candy.

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Yeah, this is the industrial

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type so she did an industrial
paid for by Gulin that's the way

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I see it. Yeah,

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that's exactly what it is. And
she's done. So many industrials.

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She could sell it to goo Lana's
look I look at my Walmart work.

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How's Walmart doing? Yeah, you
want to do you want to be big

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like Walmart big. You want to be
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and doesn't want somebody who's
gonna go in there and actually

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do a documentary they want
what's the buff piece and she's

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like she's custom made for it.

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Here's a quick excerpts from the

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doc although millions of people
have responded to Fela goo lens

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message of hope and call to
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was not among them.

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There was an image of Fethullah
Gulen described by the state

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apparatus is a villain as
someone who is going to bring

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Sharia to this country.

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Yeah, that's kind of the whole
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trying to set up a Muslim
Republic.

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He does not choose to be on TV.
He does not choose to move

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around the country to give
public meetings he does not even

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choose to meet with significant
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lives a rather monkish kind of
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with 100 guys up on the hill in
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monkish,

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monkish is spiritually

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bonded to God Himself.

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How old is this?

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What is this documentary? No, I
know this character Goonies in

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the 60s, maybe 70s. Let's find
out book of knowledge. So this

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became a very interesting
conversation, because we really

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hadn't updated each other in, in
several months. And he's, I

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think he's been up to the
compound trying to get some

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footage. And, and, you know,
there's just, you know, we've

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had the FBI, rating some of
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and Ohio tribe. Yeah. Because
the, the way I see it me

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personally, Adam, you know, hey,
comedian over here is no, but

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this 73 A lot of this money is
maybe not just going to charter

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schools and the way some of the
charter schools are run, as you

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have to question, as did the
several EU countries, you know,

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what exactly is being taught in
these countries? Is it in the

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schools? Is it in line with the
is it common core, I guess, is

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my question. And, you know, now
he's making a move. We got this

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documentary coming out, he's
being compared to Rumi, which I

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mean, I have a book by Rumi
beautiful poems. I just don't

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think that's a fair comparison
if he can even call himself a

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Sufi at all. And it's
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that apparently was what Osama
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kind of says enough right there.
So then we move from this into

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and I think I fucked it up. We
start talking about about men

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and women and about Muslims and
and I think that Mark actually

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dove right in and that was
pretty interesting because he

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would make he gets a gets into
an argument. This is how we met

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you know, it's, it's, it's
frightening. What arguing? She

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very she's very aggressive. When
she wants to make a point, and I

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always get caught off guard
because I'm just never ready for

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it because she's good. During
the show, I know if you're gonna

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argue with me, I'm ready for it.
But then yes, oh, whoa, crap. I

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don't have I don't have my show
notes. Guy. I don't have the

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book of knowledge. I can't do
anything. And we got into a

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conversation about I think, and
I this way you're punished by

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having to wear a beard now this
correct? Yes, it's a big part of

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it. And we got into a
conversation which I believe is

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oku Ron's right now and I'm
seeing the messaging. In fact, I

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will play a Sarah Silverman
clip, which is brand new, you

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know, Sarah Silverman always
does things which are hilarious,

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but they always have a political
message. Oh, hi.

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I'm Sarah Silverman, writer,
comedian, and vagina owner.

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Women make up almost half the
working population. Yet we

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typically earn just 78 cents to
every dollar a man makes in

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almost every profession, like
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miners, and even the oldest
profession of the mall. Tail.

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You see that guy streetwalker?
Who's tailoring pants haha.

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Every year the average woman
loses around $11,000 to the wage

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gap over the course of the
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That's almost 500 grand. That's
a $500,000. Vagina tax. That's

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why I'm taking matters into my
own hands. Well, somebody else's

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hands really Dr. Goldstein, or
is it Goldstein? O'Malley? I'm

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becoming a dude.

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Okay. So this is about the this
is where what we were talking

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about. We're all kind of saying
the same thing

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debunked is bull crap about the
70% 70.

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It's actually now 78 cents. But
yeah, I want to revisit that

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briefly. But we got into a
conversation. I think Mark and I

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said that we were disappointed
in the feminist movement, as

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I've said many times on this
show, very disappointed in the

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feminist movement as to how
little is being for the amount

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of time and effort and and
screen time that is spent on ban

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bossy, and, and this wage gap,
which we need to talk about. If

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you really want to advance
women, you know, and this was

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Mark's point, and I agree with
him, you have to look at what's

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happening worldwide where Iran
and Egypt 30 years ago, women

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weren't wearing burgers, they
weren't covered up it was a

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modern progressive country.

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Now. I'm actually in the 70s
Afghanistan was the same way

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same way

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and I'm not going to say that we
didn't have a hand in it with

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the douchebags we put in place
and the geopolitical game but

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it's the more laws and other
religious nut fuckers who came

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in and, and really decompressed
and degraded women's rights in

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these countries. And I'm always
surprised how how little noise

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there is from the feminist
movement yet when you get this

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story which is of course there
is actual discrimination. I'll

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give you an example. The here's
what happened just the other

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day. This of course, what is it
going on with my Mac here? This

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is a CBS piece on the the new
CEO of Microsoft, Satya Nadella

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at a conference dedicated to
women in the technology field.

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Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella had
some stunning advice about women

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asking for a raise it's not
really

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about asking for the ring and
for because it's hilarious he's

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00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,280
but knowing and having faith
that the system will actually

446
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,760
give you the right raises as you
go along. Women should

447
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,720
keep quiet. Nadella then added
that a so called supernatural

448
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,670
force will take care of the
race.

449
00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:02,670
I think that's a little little
bit of twisting of his words.

450
00:29:02,670 --> 00:29:05,010
But okay, what are the
additional superpowers?

451
00:29:05,220 --> 00:29:09,030
Haha that quite frankly, women
who don't ask for a raise?

452
00:29:09,810 --> 00:29:13,470
Because that's good karma. It'll
come back in the long term

453
00:29:13,470 --> 00:29:15,000
efficiency things catch up.

454
00:29:15,060 --> 00:29:18,810
Even the moderator Maria club a
Microsoft board member couldn't

455
00:29:18,810 --> 00:29:19,980
believe what she heard.

456
00:29:20,010 --> 00:29:22,320
This is what a very few things I
disagree with you on

457
00:29:27,030 --> 00:29:30,720
the Twitter universe also lit up
with tweets like so what Nadella

458
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,770
said was women who want to race
take a hike. New Yorkers also

459
00:29:34,770 --> 00:29:36,300
chimed in, and I'm pretty

460
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:39,360
sure you wouldn't ever have
suggested that to any of his

461
00:29:39,389 --> 00:29:41,939
male executives and wait for a
friend of ours

462
00:29:41,970 --> 00:29:44,730
when we need to ask her what's
rightfully theirs. Nadella

463
00:29:44,730 --> 00:29:47,940
quickly went into damage control
mode and backpedal, claiming on

464
00:29:47,940 --> 00:29:50,730
Twitter his remarks were
inarticulate and that the tech

465
00:29:50,730 --> 00:29:54,270
industry must close gender pay
gap. Later he issued this

466
00:29:54,270 --> 00:29:57,060
statement to Microsoft
employees. I believe men and

467
00:29:57,060 --> 00:30:00,870
women should get equal pay for
equal work and If you think you

468
00:30:00,870 --> 00:30:03,840
deserve a raise, you should just
ask. I think it was a

469
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,920
surprisingly

470
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,180
unvarnished moment.

471
00:30:06,210 --> 00:30:11,490
It was that. Who was that? What
who was that speaking? You have

472
00:30:11,490 --> 00:30:12,450
to imagine

473
00:30:12,570 --> 00:30:15,660
that if someone within Microsoft
was already concerned about

474
00:30:15,660 --> 00:30:18,270
treatment of weapons area will
be claimed they might be feeling

475
00:30:18,270 --> 00:30:19,350
a little more concerned now.

476
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,620
Now Microsoft released an
internal diversity report

477
00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:26,040
earlier this week that showed
that 29% of the company's global

478
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,270
workforce are women, which
represents a 5% year over year

479
00:30:30,270 --> 00:30:32,790
increase. But guys, I can tell
you, the critics are still not

480
00:30:32,790 --> 00:30:33,870
pleased after this was

481
00:30:33,930 --> 00:30:38,010
Mollywood was Mollywood. Who was
it as funny? Okay, fine.

482
00:30:38,010 --> 00:30:39,810
Mollywood? Well, we started
talking

483
00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:41,940
about knowing the client, well,
knowing the climate is actually

484
00:30:41,970 --> 00:30:45,180
came up in the conversation,
because Naomi Klein, it's as if

485
00:30:45,180 --> 00:30:49,320
she listened to the last five
episodes of no agenda. And she's

486
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:52,770
on her facebook saying, hey,
these beheading videos look

487
00:30:52,770 --> 00:30:55,890
bogus. How come everyone how
come the mainstream media is not

488
00:30:55,890 --> 00:30:58,860
actually looking into the
authenticity? She's saying, Hey,

489
00:30:58,860 --> 00:31:02,940
what's up this week with Ebola?
Is it possible that we're just

490
00:31:02,970 --> 00:31:07,230
sending people over all these
combat troops to capture oil in

491
00:31:07,260 --> 00:31:08,460
in West Africa?

492
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,920
What is she doing listen to our
show and then stealing our

493
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,700
material.

494
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:17,580
But what happens is unanimously,
particularly I see a lot of

495
00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:20,670
women going, she had just
checked into the train the Crazy

496
00:31:20,670 --> 00:31:24,390
Train, she's got a nut job,
stupid, crazy woman. And this is

497
00:31:24,390 --> 00:31:30,300
where we had this kind of heated
debate about, you know, how the

498
00:31:30,330 --> 00:31:36,390
feminist movement is very quick
to cut down women. And oh, yeah,

499
00:31:36,420 --> 00:31:40,800
well, there's a known fact. And
I'm going to assert, and I can

500
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,370
actually prove my point, that
this pay gap, which, if you

501
00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:47,190
really, and we have, we have
debunked this, if you really

502
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:51,930
look at the numbers, and the
reasons behind it, there is a

503
00:31:51,930 --> 00:31:56,190
pay gap. And I would say it's
probably closer to 9%. And

504
00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:58,920
there's, you know, it's really
how you present these numbers.

505
00:32:00,150 --> 00:32:05,190
But of course, it's the the AAUW
who are creating these, and they

506
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:09,090
have $130 million. And I'll tell
you why this organization isn't,

507
00:32:09,420 --> 00:32:12,480
you know, the the was the
American Association for uniting

508
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,540
women, they come up with these
studies, and, and they say,

509
00:32:15,540 --> 00:32:18,510
Well, if you take all women up
to the age of 60, and all men

510
00:32:18,510 --> 00:32:22,140
and then you take the pay, you
add it up and divided by the

511
00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:25,410
number of people, then yeah,
then there's a huge gap. But

512
00:32:25,410 --> 00:32:30,450
there's a number of reasons for
it. And I will readily admit

513
00:32:30,450 --> 00:32:33,090
that there, most definitely,
there's discrimination. Of

514
00:32:33,090 --> 00:32:35,370
course there is and there should
be no discrimination all but

515
00:32:35,370 --> 00:32:39,660
it's not 70. You know, there's
not there's making 77 or 78

516
00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:42,420
cents of the dollar. That is a
meme that I believe is part of

517
00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:46,680
the strategy, too. And you'll
see soon that it's Republicans

518
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,100
that are of course responsible
for this. It's a strategy to get

519
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:53,250
women to never vote for a
Republican and I think I can, I

520
00:32:53,250 --> 00:32:56,760
can prove that but here's here's
where we had an interesting

521
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:02,730
conversation. I said, Why is it
that I have not heard any women

522
00:33:02,730 --> 00:33:08,190
stand up and denounce the
National Football League force

523
00:33:08,190 --> 00:33:11,790
Congress to remove their tax
exempt status, which Congress

524
00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:16,590
can do with one stroke of the
pen and and truly forced the

525
00:33:16,590 --> 00:33:21,630
commissioner to resign over a
player in one of the richest

526
00:33:21,630 --> 00:33:26,970
sports in the world who call
cold Cox's, his girlfriend, and

527
00:33:26,970 --> 00:33:30,840
we saw it on video slams her
drags her out of the elevated

528
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,580
legs, either the sack of
potatoes. It quite honestly was

529
00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:38,730
Mollywood Gen Z or on CBS
talking about that, where where

530
00:33:38,730 --> 00:33:41,640
was the outrage? I would join
any woman for the outrage to

531
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,860
tell the NFL to go pound sand.
But that never happens. And I

532
00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:50,040
will and this was you know, it's
disturbing to me,

533
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:53,850
well, never happens because it's
not directed to happen. It Thank

534
00:33:53,850 --> 00:33:56,220
you, excuse me to disturbed by
anything, you should be

535
00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:58,860
disturbed by what I'm always
disturbed by which is that

536
00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:02,490
people are being led around by
the nose by of course, the most.

537
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,370
As we discussed about a year
ago, when we had the last

538
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,810
Edelman event where they talked
about who do you trust, it's

539
00:34:09,810 --> 00:34:15,780
essentially the head of a PR
company, a use of or an

540
00:34:15,780 --> 00:34:18,570
examination of all the different
types of organization and

541
00:34:18,570 --> 00:34:23,670
individuals media police law,
the most trusted people in the

542
00:34:23,670 --> 00:34:26,760
world are NGOs, and

543
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,649
non government organizations
which are funded often by USA ID

544
00:34:31,649 --> 00:34:33,599
and other corporations about or

545
00:34:33,690 --> 00:34:37,050
who knows they always have an
agenda though. And so the AU w

546
00:34:37,050 --> 00:34:41,160
which is leading this this push
about the 70 whatever percent

547
00:34:41,310 --> 00:34:46,860
7077 off yeah. Is is an NGO and
so they're all whatever they say

548
00:34:46,860 --> 00:34:49,740
goes so they don't descend. They
don't bring it up. If they go to

549
00:34:49,740 --> 00:34:53,100
the web page and see nothing
about about these football

550
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:56,370
players pounding on women, then
it's then it's not an issue.

551
00:34:56,370 --> 00:34:59,280
This is like the we talked about
in the last show of the New York

552
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,180
Times. and these other
newspapers, if they don't write

553
00:35:03,180 --> 00:35:06,270
it up, then to your little local
paper, you don't write it up. So

554
00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:07,560
this is this is horrible.

555
00:35:07,620 --> 00:35:12,240
Let me and I want to, and I'm
only doing this, this is not

556
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:18,420
about whether women are still
not equal in society. We have a

557
00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:22,320
lot of work to do. Note, and I
think that I think that we are

558
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,150
both huge proponents of women
and want to, and we've helped

559
00:35:27,150 --> 00:35:31,920
many women to accelerate far
beyond us, far beyond us. And I

560
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,190
think you need to start making
excuses, no excuses. But I do

561
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:37,680
have women discussing this
issue, because we're probably

562
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,070
not, we will not be accepted as
qualified. But first, let's play

563
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,220
a little bit of the State of the
Union from the President to, to

564
00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:48,270
hear the what the real message
was, which is yes, it's true

565
00:35:48,270 --> 00:35:51,390
what he's saying. But now we
have an actual bill on the

566
00:35:51,390 --> 00:35:55,020
table, which I have some
professional advice may not be

567
00:35:55,020 --> 00:35:58,140
the best thing for women. In
fact, it may counter what women

568
00:35:58,140 --> 00:36:01,020
are looking for. But this is the
messaging that went out in the

569
00:36:01,020 --> 00:36:02,490
State of the Union last year.

570
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,260
Today, women make up about half
our workforce. But they still

571
00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:10,200
make 77 cents for every dollar a
man earns,

572
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,100
that's now become 78.
Apparently, you've got one penny

573
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:15,150
is the message.

574
00:36:16,410 --> 00:36:21,780
That is wrong. And in 2014, it's
an embarrassment. Women deserve

575
00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:23,250
equal pay for equal work.

576
00:36:30,660 --> 00:36:33,150
Standing ovation, and deservedly
so.

577
00:36:45,540 --> 00:36:50,130
She deserves to have a baby
without sacrificing your job. A

578
00:36:50,130 --> 00:36:54,390
mother deserves a day off to
care for a sick child or a sick

579
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:58,410
parent without running into
hardship. And you know what a

580
00:36:58,410 --> 00:37:03,480
father does too. It is time to
do away with workplace policies

581
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,650
that belong in a madman episode.
This year, let's come together.

582
00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:11,700
Congress, the White House
businesses from Wall Street to

583
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:15,480
Main Street to give every woman
the opportunity she deserves.

584
00:37:15,870 --> 00:37:20,340
Because I believe when women
succeed, America succeeds. So

585
00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:21,030
that is an

586
00:37:21,060 --> 00:37:24,960
excellent, excellent speech.
Everyone went wild. And it's a

587
00:37:24,990 --> 00:37:28,170
funny line about Mad Men. And I
think we're I think we've

588
00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:31,980
progressed a little bit since
the days of madmen. But I wanted

589
00:37:31,980 --> 00:37:36,690
to understand the process of the
Equal Pay Act. Once we have the

590
00:37:36,690 --> 00:37:40,110
Lilly Ledbetter Act as an
employer, you can get in serious

591
00:37:40,110 --> 00:37:45,480
trouble if you are caught. In
fact, women can today Sue many

592
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,500
years after the fact for a back
pay and and other punitive

593
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:53,580
damages, if they if they can
show that they were

594
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:57,420
discriminated against in the
workplaces, certainly with

595
00:37:57,420 --> 00:38:00,300
compensation. So this is not
something that is very smart for

596
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:06,090
any employer to do. And I found
a piece from Milton Friedman,

597
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,640
that well, how do you hold
Milton Friedman, The Economist?

598
00:38:09,390 --> 00:38:10,620
How do you what kind of

599
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:15,690
hold them in high regard? Yes.
And he was during every economic

600
00:38:15,690 --> 00:38:20,280
40 year era, there one is kind
of interesting. One of these

601
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,610
guys will emerge, and they have
every 40 years as you go going

602
00:38:23,610 --> 00:38:28,080
way back. And Freeman was the
guy who explained what happened

603
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,530
in the 70s, of which was the
stagflation situation. So he

604
00:38:31,530 --> 00:38:34,860
became the dominant economist.
And then and these guys,

605
00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:37,500
Coincidently, every one of them
dies within his own their own

606
00:38:37,530 --> 00:38:39,960
era. So they can't really do
anything about what happens

607
00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:43,860
wrong, which is, you know, we're
having issues now. And it would

608
00:38:43,860 --> 00:38:44,130
go on, so

609
00:38:44,130 --> 00:38:48,360
he died in 2006. But he was the
1976, recipient of the Nobel

610
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:54,210
Prize in Economics study. So you
have to you agreed, slouch? Not,

611
00:38:54,210 --> 00:38:57,750
it's actually a very funny guy.
And he addressed Of course, he

612
00:38:57,750 --> 00:39:00,750
didn't address this current bill
that is being discussed, which

613
00:39:00,750 --> 00:39:04,470
would be regulations, more
regulations, for equal pay for

614
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:08,490
equal work for men and women.
And I had to listen to this

615
00:39:08,490 --> 00:39:11,370
twice, I think we'll be able to
listen to it once and then get

616
00:39:11,370 --> 00:39:17,250
through it. This was a speech
that he did at Harvard, in this

617
00:39:17,250 --> 00:39:21,570
is got to be I think, late 90s.
About when this was already an

618
00:39:21,570 --> 00:39:25,320
issue. And so we he talks about
this, and then he gets a

619
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:30,660
question from a female student,
and then he elaborates. And when

620
00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:33,960
you think about it, wow, the guy
is smart,

621
00:39:34,020 --> 00:39:39,780
equal pay for equal work. Laws
are a source of apartheid. You

622
00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:43,350
know, the basic source of
apartheid in South Africa, was

623
00:39:43,350 --> 00:39:47,490
the insistence by trade unions
on equal pay for equal work. The

624
00:39:47,490 --> 00:39:51,300
equal the women who go around
today, urging equal pay for

625
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:53,370
equal work or being anti
feminist.

626
00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:57,480
This caught my attention as you
can imagine, yes, okay. They

627
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:57,660
don't

628
00:39:57,660 --> 00:40:01,470
intend to, but that is the
effect of their policy, because

629
00:40:01,470 --> 00:40:05,550
if there is any activity in
which for any reason, a male is

630
00:40:05,550 --> 00:40:12,660
preferable to a female, or vice
versa. The only weapon, the less

631
00:40:13,770 --> 00:40:19,170
productive sex has, is to offer
to work for less. And if you

632
00:40:19,170 --> 00:40:23,010
deny them that opportunity,
you're assuring yourself that

633
00:40:23,010 --> 00:40:25,380
you're going to have all male
jobs or all female jobs. All

634
00:40:25,380 --> 00:40:27,690
white jobs are all blacktail
that this sounds

635
00:40:27,690 --> 00:40:30,270
so counterintuitive when you
hear it for the first time. But

636
00:40:30,270 --> 00:40:33,060
when you start to think and when
he goes in to explain it again,

637
00:40:33,420 --> 00:40:35,490
you see the error of the
thinking,

638
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:38,399
don't you also condemning him to
stay that way? Not at all,

639
00:40:38,669 --> 00:40:42,089
not at all the typical course if
you go back to American history,

640
00:40:42,629 --> 00:40:48,149
by taking these low paid jobs, a
great many people, not all but a

641
00:40:48,149 --> 00:40:51,029
great many people were able to
develop skills and activities

642
00:40:51,029 --> 00:40:53,999
accumulate a little skill, a
little capital, a little

643
00:40:53,999 --> 00:40:59,009
knowledge, improve their lot,
become advanced in the stage,

644
00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:02,249
get to a higher level of
productivity and get a higher

645
00:41:02,249 --> 00:41:05,549
income. That's been the typical
way up the ladder for most of

646
00:41:05,549 --> 00:41:08,129
the people who came in here was
a way up the ladder from my

647
00:41:08,129 --> 00:41:10,739
parents were your parents or
grandparents or great

648
00:41:10,739 --> 00:41:13,739
grandparents, I don't know,
which. And that's the way in

649
00:41:13,739 --> 00:41:16,829
which unfortunately, there's no
way in which you can say

650
00:41:16,829 --> 00:41:20,219
immediately propel people to the
top of the ladder. Now get

651
00:41:20,220 --> 00:41:23,760
ready for his second
explanation, it really becomes

652
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:24,270
clear,

653
00:41:24,299 --> 00:41:28,079
Mr. Friedman, referring to the
statements that you made about

654
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:31,289
women who abdicate equal pay for
equal work,

655
00:41:31,379 --> 00:41:35,729
gi fraud, that arise out of the
light of the habit.

656
00:41:36,450 --> 00:41:39,720
By the way, there's guys in the
audience douchebags laughing

657
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:42,180
they don't get it either, until
he really explains it.

658
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,690
Yes. Okay. I just would like to
know, if you're insinuating or

659
00:41:45,690 --> 00:41:51,030
perhaps, you know, point blank
Lee saying that women and other

660
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:54,960
minorities skills are inferior
to those of those now holding

661
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,740
those jobs, and that they need
to go through a period where

662
00:41:58,860 --> 00:42:02,250
their skills need to be
improved, and therefore deserve

663
00:42:02,250 --> 00:42:03,420
to be paid less.

664
00:42:03,630 --> 00:42:07,560
No, I don't think desert has
anything to do with it. First of

665
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,930
all, I think dessert is an
impossible thing to decide who

666
00:42:09,930 --> 00:42:14,760
deserves one, nobody deserves
anything. Thank God, we don't

667
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:20,460
get what we deserve. Good luck.
But but I'm not saying that at

668
00:42:20,460 --> 00:42:24,060
all. I'm saying a very different
thing. I'm saying that the

669
00:42:24,060 --> 00:42:29,310
actual effect of requiring equal
pay for equal work will be to

670
00:42:29,310 --> 00:42:35,130
harm women. If women skills are
higher than men's in a

671
00:42:35,130 --> 00:42:37,980
particular job and are
recognized to be higher, the law

672
00:42:37,980 --> 00:42:41,430
does no good. Because then they
will be able to compete away and

673
00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:45,450
can get the same income. If
their skills are less for

674
00:42:45,450 --> 00:42:47,460
whatever reason, maybe it isn't,
because they're saying it's

675
00:42:47,460 --> 00:42:49,320
their sex, maybe it's because
they were out of the labor

676
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,490
force. Maybe it's for other
reasons. And you say the only

677
00:42:53,490 --> 00:42:56,880
way you can you are able to hire
him is by paying the same way,

678
00:42:56,940 --> 00:42:59,370
then you're denying them the
only weapon they have to fight

679
00:42:59,370 --> 00:43:02,340
with? If the unwillingness of
the men to hire him is because

680
00:43:02,370 --> 00:43:07,980
men are sexist. are, what's the
phrase racist, misogynist,

681
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:09,690
sexist pigs or whatever,

682
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,220
I don't think they had that word
back then.

683
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,110
That's the only reason they want
to hire him. Nonetheless, you

684
00:43:16,110 --> 00:43:19,530
want to make it costly to them
to exercise their prejudice. If

685
00:43:19,530 --> 00:43:23,520
you say to him, you have to pay
the same wage, no matter whether

686
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,770
you pay will hire women or men.
Then here's Mr. sexist pig. It

687
00:43:28,770 --> 00:43:30,990
doesn't cost him anything to
hire men instead of women.

688
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,830
However, if the women are free
to compete, and to say, well,

689
00:43:34,830 --> 00:43:38,400
now look, I'll offer my work for
less than he can only hire men

690
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,840
if he bears a cost. If the women
are really good as a man as good

691
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,500
as a man, that he's paying a
price for discriminating and

692
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:49,410
what you are doing not
intentionally, but by

693
00:43:49,410 --> 00:43:53,160
misunderstanding, when you tried
to get equal pay for equal work

694
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,810
laws is what you are doing is
reducing to zero, the cost

695
00:43:57,810 --> 00:44:01,350
imposed on people who are who
are discriminating for

696
00:44:01,350 --> 00:44:05,400
irrelevant reasons. And I would
like to see a cost imposed on

697
00:44:05,609 --> 00:44:08,849
this. This was mind blowing when
I thought about it for a moment.

698
00:44:09,539 --> 00:44:14,879
It's completely true. The last
thing you want is equality,

699
00:44:14,879 --> 00:44:21,089
because then there is no penalty
for hiring a man. Right? I think

700
00:44:21,089 --> 00:44:23,969
well, but no one ever thinks
that this conversation is not

701
00:44:23,969 --> 00:44:24,359
being

702
00:44:25,650 --> 00:44:29,790
discussed, doesn't fit into the
what the NGOs are telling people

703
00:44:29,790 --> 00:44:31,440
as to how to how people should
be thinking,

704
00:44:31,470 --> 00:44:33,120
well, let's listen to me. By the
way, I

705
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,460
want to mention that Milton
Friedman was one of the

706
00:44:35,580 --> 00:44:40,500
promoters of what Nixon
introduced which which never

707
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:42,930
went anywhere, which is the
negative income tax, which is

708
00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:46,680
not quite what they're doing in
Switzerland, or what they're

709
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,650
starting to do in Switzerland.
If you want to take a just take

710
00:44:49,650 --> 00:44:53,640
a quick little explain Of
course, clip that I have on

711
00:44:54,420 --> 00:44:58,410
Swiss. I think I got Swiss
giving away and that's where we

712
00:44:58,410 --> 00:45:02,250
get a little background on this
trip. load. The proposed Basic

713
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,990
Income initiative arrived with a
splash and the promise of 2000

714
00:45:06,990 --> 00:45:11,190
euro a month for every Swiss
citizen intended to let them

715
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:16,320
live without basic financial
worry. Live Without financial

716
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,190
worry what a great idea says
Elizabeth Nolan Brown and

717
00:45:20,190 --> 00:45:25,200
editor@reason.com. No, it's a
terrible idea says economist Ed

718
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,310
stringer. So Elizabeth, you got
to convince me what why is this

719
00:45:29,310 --> 00:45:32,460
a good idea? People will just
waste the money and then

720
00:45:32,460 --> 00:45:34,380
government will say, Well, you
have to spend more.

721
00:45:34,830 --> 00:45:37,860
Well, I think I don't know that
I agree exactly with that plan

722
00:45:37,860 --> 00:45:40,350
that they have. But there are
all different versions of this

723
00:45:40,350 --> 00:45:42,930
even you know, Milton Friedman
proposed some version of this

724
00:45:42,930 --> 00:45:45,780
with a negative income tax. So
it's not an anti libertarian

725
00:45:45,780 --> 00:45:47,130
position per se. Charles

726
00:45:47,130 --> 00:45:50,880
Murray, majoritarian hero wrote
a book a plan to replace welfare

727
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,130
state Give, give everyone 10,000
bucks.

728
00:45:54,660 --> 00:45:58,050
And we've talked and talked
about this the the guaranteed

729
00:45:58,050 --> 00:46:01,440
minimum income. There's a lot of
conversations about this, right?

730
00:46:01,710 --> 00:46:03,180
Yep. And

731
00:46:03,210 --> 00:46:06,270
we're just as a society, this is
this is what Friedman was

732
00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:08,670
pushing one of his many ideas.
And

733
00:46:08,670 --> 00:46:11,940
I have to say, when I look at
the President's new initiative,

734
00:46:12,690 --> 00:46:16,380
which he calls the creating
opportunities for millennials,

735
00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:19,470
did you receive the emails? No,
I didn't

736
00:46:19,890 --> 00:46:22,470
realize it. You know, I have not
been routinely opening that

737
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:24,150
Maelstrom from Obama.

738
00:46:24,180 --> 00:46:31,170
What's interesting is that
somehow I'm subscribed to to two

739
00:46:31,170 --> 00:46:32,550
different email addresses.

740
00:46:32,580 --> 00:46:35,430
I think I've subscribed you to
most of them. Yeah, thanks.

741
00:46:35,850 --> 00:46:37,740
Okay. Hi, Mimi,

742
00:46:37,770 --> 00:46:40,470
now that you're ready for
Hillary? Yeah, I have that one.

743
00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:43,410
Thank you. But what they're
doing is they are sending the

744
00:46:43,410 --> 00:46:47,790
same message for different
different subject lines. So

745
00:46:47,790 --> 00:46:50,520
there they are a be testing for
opens and stuff because I'm

746
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,210
getting an interesting, I don't
know why I'm never getting this.

747
00:46:54,750 --> 00:46:57,600
I'm always getting two different
subject lines on two different

748
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,460
ad curry.com email addresses,
which

749
00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:03,060
is yeah, they are dead. That's a
test. They're doing a B testing.

750
00:47:03,870 --> 00:47:06,510
And, and if you if you look at
the President's plan for

751
00:47:06,510 --> 00:47:09,600
millennials, it's all about
getting you into debt as quickly

752
00:47:09,630 --> 00:47:12,930
as possible with educational
system. That's the plan for

753
00:47:12,930 --> 00:47:17,820
creating jobs. And no, it's the
plan for creating a debt slaves.

754
00:47:17,820 --> 00:47:22,230
And my current thinking is that
maybe this guaranteed minimum

755
00:47:22,260 --> 00:47:25,530
income is not such a bad idea,
at least you're not a slave to

756
00:47:25,530 --> 00:47:30,960
debt. People are going to be,
you know, cannon fodder, and

757
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,660
worthless eventually, anyway,
we're out. I

758
00:47:33,660 --> 00:47:37,020
agree with this 100%. Every time
I bring it up, I it really

759
00:47:37,020 --> 00:47:41,160
creates a lot of argument
because of the just a knee jerk,

760
00:47:41,460 --> 00:47:45,720
die. And Randy has some ideas
that it can never be, but it's

761
00:47:46,050 --> 00:47:49,020
economically speaking, I think
it's a better deal than most

762
00:47:49,020 --> 00:47:51,750
people, the more they can look
forward to.

763
00:47:52,980 --> 00:47:56,130
Yeah, that's in the nonsense
that oh, you could give people

764
00:47:56,130 --> 00:47:59,760
$2,000 A month or 10,000 or
whatever it is that Stossel said

765
00:48:00,030 --> 00:48:03,600
in that clip, they're just gonna
waste it now as they're not

766
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,770
gonna What What makes you say
that? Yeah, it's a it's a

767
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:13,020
stereotype to say, if you give
some poor person $2,000 to

768
00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:16,650
sustain to sustain themselves
for a while, that they're going

769
00:48:16,650 --> 00:48:17,640
to waste it.

770
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:21,300
So now I want to wind this up by
playing a small piece which

771
00:48:21,300 --> 00:48:25,320
aired on the Wall Street Journal
website. Do they have a TV

772
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,940
channels or just all video that
doing on?

773
00:48:27,090 --> 00:48:31,770
Oh, they have? It's all online?
They do have they do have a show

774
00:48:31,770 --> 00:48:34,860
every show? There's a couple
shows a day that are sent and

775
00:48:34,860 --> 00:48:39,900
right. Yeah, this indicates some
stuff. So this is a woman from

776
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:44,550
the AAUW, the NIH, and they are
the ones that are propagating

777
00:48:44,550 --> 00:48:50,610
this 78% or 78 cents. But when
she gets deeper into it, even

778
00:48:50,610 --> 00:48:54,330
she can only show through and
she talks about the

779
00:48:54,330 --> 00:48:58,710
methodologies and how we do the
research. This woman can really

780
00:48:58,710 --> 00:49:03,330
only show a 6% difference, which
is still it's not okay. And I

781
00:49:03,330 --> 00:49:05,220
tried to say Oh, because it's
less it doesn't make any

782
00:49:05,220 --> 00:49:08,190
difference. Yeah, of course,
it's discrimination and all over

783
00:49:08,190 --> 00:49:11,010
the world for all kinds of
reasons. All with all dudes,

784
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,590
ageism. There's all kinds of
discrimination, but certainly

785
00:49:13,590 --> 00:49:16,350
against women. But then there's
this other woman from the

786
00:49:16,770 --> 00:49:20,400
International Woman's forum, I
believe, and here's at least

787
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,470
three women talking about it so
we can shut up.

788
00:49:22,529 --> 00:49:25,499
Joining me now is Aaron primely,
the Associate Director of

789
00:49:25,499 --> 00:49:28,169
Government Relations for the
American Association of

790
00:49:28,169 --> 00:49:31,649
University Women. Along with her
today we have Sabrina Schaefer,

791
00:49:31,649 --> 00:49:34,499
the executive director of the
independent Women's Forum.

792
00:49:34,949 --> 00:49:37,319
Aaron, let's start with you,
your group has been particularly

793
00:49:37,319 --> 00:49:40,289
vocal that the gender pay gap
exists, that it's a problem. How

794
00:49:40,289 --> 00:49:41,789
do you think these actions today
could help?

795
00:49:43,230 --> 00:49:47,370
Thank you so much. The American
Association has worked on this

796
00:49:47,370 --> 00:49:51,480
issue for a very long time. And
quite frankly, we're thrilled

797
00:49:51,630 --> 00:49:52,560
and we're relieved.

798
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:56,250
This is because the President
was it was it Sarah and what's

799
00:49:56,250 --> 00:50:01,620
her name? The actress in Hong
Kong. California, and he was

800
00:50:01,620 --> 00:50:03,630
talking about, oh, we're gonna
get this done, we're gonna get

801
00:50:03,630 --> 00:50:08,010
this bill passed. And you know,
we need to have more laws to

802
00:50:08,250 --> 00:50:11,760
force people into the equality
which if you follow Friedman's

803
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,770
logic will actually hurt women a
great

804
00:50:13,770 --> 00:50:17,370
step for women and their
families across the country.

805
00:50:17,610 --> 00:50:21,570
AAUW research has shown that
even accounting for all

806
00:50:21,570 --> 00:50:25,650
different factors career
education, there's still an

807
00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:29,400
unexplained pay gap, which many
believe is due to workplace

808
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,270
discrimination.

809
00:50:30,810 --> 00:50:33,780
Sabrina, I want to go to you in
addition to these executive

810
00:50:33,780 --> 00:50:36,720
actions, the president is also
pushing for the Paycheck

811
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,840
Fairness Act and Congress, you
don't think these will actually

812
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,750
make that big of a difference in
advancing equal pay. Why is

813
00:50:42,750 --> 00:50:43,110
that?

814
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,220
No, that's exactly right. Well,
first of all, this is premise on

815
00:50:47,220 --> 00:50:51,330
the faulty 77 cents statistic
that women only make 77 cents on

816
00:50:51,330 --> 00:50:54,360
what every dollar that a man
earns. Even the White House

817
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,180
yesterday conceded this point
that this is a gross

818
00:50:57,300 --> 00:51:00,240
overstatement when you control
for any number of very important

819
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:03,300
factors. college major time
spent out of the workforce time

820
00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:06,480
spent in the office each day,
the wage gap all but disappears.

821
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,180
And so we want to make sure that
we're not creating more

822
00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:12,750
legislation based on a faulty
statistic and the that won't

823
00:51:12,750 --> 00:51:15,900
actually close the wage gap.
What the bill will do is pad the

824
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:19,170
pockets of trial lawyers who
will be lining up because women

825
00:51:19,170 --> 00:51:22,170
will be automatically filed into
class suits, there will be no

826
00:51:22,170 --> 00:51:25,680
cap on damages. This will make
it harder for employers to tie

827
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,820
remuneration to actual work
product. This is a disaster and

828
00:51:29,820 --> 00:51:32,490
will have nothing to do with to
actually protect women or men in

829
00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:33,030
the workplace.

830
00:51:33,150 --> 00:51:34,980
I think he's a very good point.

831
00:51:35,069 --> 00:51:37,739
I think she's right on the
money. It's amazing that

832
00:51:37,739 --> 00:51:40,979
somebody would come out with
such honesty. I want to mention

833
00:51:40,979 --> 00:51:43,589
something here because I had a
clip some time ago to discuss

834
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:47,609
this. They were talking about
the certain women that are high

835
00:51:47,609 --> 00:51:51,419
profile. You know that we talked
about the glass ceiling. There's

836
00:51:51,419 --> 00:51:54,149
a lot of stereotypes that are
really back from the 60s that

837
00:51:54,149 --> 00:51:57,779
have have if you really started
looking at it have gone away the

838
00:51:57,779 --> 00:52:01,259
number of women CEOs and high
positions in mid big companies

839
00:52:01,259 --> 00:52:04,559
let me name a few. The CEO of
PepsiCo is a woman the CEO of

840
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:08,489
Kraft so a woman that CBS CEO of
IBM is a woman the CEO of HP is

841
00:52:08,489 --> 00:52:12,239
a woman the CEO of Xerox is a
woman, the CEO of Ben Chua

842
00:52:12,269 --> 00:52:16,379
Brazilian Petrobras is a woman
Yahoo. Disney well it would

843
00:52:16,379 --> 00:52:19,619
Disney's though of ABC part of
Disney WellPoint, the second

844
00:52:19,619 --> 00:52:23,429
biggest healthcare operation
Avon General Motors Time Inc.

845
00:52:23,459 --> 00:52:26,549
Ah, I mean, go on and on. And
these women take care of this

846
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:27,659
problem themselves.

847
00:52:27,930 --> 00:52:31,890
Well, this is an excellent
point. Where are they? Where are

848
00:52:31,890 --> 00:52:35,100
they saying we're fixing it? I
think they probably know, I

849
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:37,590
think they're smarter than this.
But this is not about women.

850
00:52:37,740 --> 00:52:41,550
This is the point I want to
make, as we look into his AAUW,

851
00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:45,990
this is, this is actually the
most anti feminist organization.

852
00:52:46,290 --> 00:52:51,300
They are abusing women, misusing
them to get people to vote for

853
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:53,850
the Democratic Party in these
upcoming elections, which is why

854
00:52:53,850 --> 00:52:58,470
this is taking place right now.
And this is they have $113

855
00:52:58,470 --> 00:53:04,140
million dollars in the bank. In
the bank, these people I wanted

856
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,210
to talk about in a minute, just
listen to the rest of this,

857
00:53:06,210 --> 00:53:08,490
because it's a great
conversation, and it's amongst

858
00:53:08,490 --> 00:53:09,510
women. Thank you.

859
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:12,690
Erin, I want to go back to you.
Because we do tend to cite that

860
00:53:12,690 --> 00:53:15,120
77 cents for every dollar that
men

861
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,610
are Yeah, because you're being
led by the messaging, which is

862
00:53:17,610 --> 00:53:20,940
all part of the system, which is
how it works in politics. And

863
00:53:20,940 --> 00:53:21,390
there has

864
00:53:21,390 --> 00:53:24,270
been a lot of criticism around
that number. What did you guys

865
00:53:24,270 --> 00:53:26,070
find when you dug into the pay
gap?

866
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:30,780
So thanks for bringing that up.
You know, I think that 77 cent

867
00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:35,340
number is actually not being
used appropriately by some folks

868
00:53:35,820 --> 00:53:41,790
in a UW has done on our most
recent report, graduating to a

869
00:53:41,790 --> 00:53:47,100
pay grab an apples to apples
comparison of women and men just

870
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:50,130
one year out of college. And
when you look at that, there's

871
00:53:50,130 --> 00:53:55,620
still an unexplained pay gap.
And what is disturbing to me is

872
00:53:55,620 --> 00:54:00,150
those who would write off a scab
as not significant. Listen, a

873
00:54:00,150 --> 00:54:05,010
pay gap, which affects your
earnings is going to have a

874
00:54:05,010 --> 00:54:08,190
significant impact on your
opportunities and choices.

875
00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:13,350
Whether you go back to school,
whether you can afford a home, a

876
00:54:13,350 --> 00:54:16,620
car, all of these issues are
very real for young women

877
00:54:16,620 --> 00:54:21,060
graduating right now just one
year for making 7% less.

878
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:27,030
So now that this is the real
number 7%. Because that's a big

879
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:31,170
difference from the 33%. They've
been talking about 23% have been

880
00:54:31,170 --> 00:54:37,320
talking about. And 7% it's still
it's inexcusable. But life is

881
00:54:37,350 --> 00:54:40,650
first not fair, and it's a lot
better than the madman days.

882
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:45,510
Now. If you go into an open
ended job, and you are offered a

883
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:50,310
job at 7% less than the guys
offered the job. And you take

884
00:54:50,310 --> 00:54:52,590
the you know in other words
you're offering I'm offering you

885
00:54:52,590 --> 00:54:56,010
a job for 10 bucks, and the
woman comes along and says I'll

886
00:54:56,010 --> 00:55:04,140
do the job for $9.93 Since then,
yeah, and you as the employee,

887
00:55:04,140 --> 00:55:09,420
okay, I'm gonna hire the woman.
And the guy doesn't get the job.

888
00:55:09,450 --> 00:55:12,480
I mean, it seems to me that
that's the mechanism at work.

889
00:55:12,690 --> 00:55:13,740
low balling.

890
00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:17,789
Well, now you're you're agreeing
with Friedman, of course, that

891
00:55:17,789 --> 00:55:21,629
this is the only way you can
actually advance and move

892
00:55:21,629 --> 00:55:26,429
forward. Yeah, but the
legislative legislative route is

893
00:55:26,429 --> 00:55:28,169
a very big, by the way, look

894
00:55:28,170 --> 00:55:30,930
at these numbers we just are
looking at at the course we

895
00:55:30,930 --> 00:55:34,080
brought this up with Nadella
start looking at the Indian pay

896
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,770
for program with h1 B visas
versus anybody how

897
00:55:37,770 --> 00:55:41,100
many old people work at
Facebook? How many programmers

898
00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:43,080
who are 60 work at Facebook,

899
00:55:43,110 --> 00:55:45,630
and you have qualified
programmers that are who are 60

900
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:48,900
That won't get a job at video, I
bet you there's zero at first,

901
00:55:48,900 --> 00:55:52,620
there probably is zero over 50.
Let's try 40. Now let's listen

902
00:55:52,620 --> 00:55:54,480
to the rest of this. Because of
these two women do finish I

903
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,520
liked this conversation like
ease dropping on,

904
00:55:57,060 --> 00:56:01,140
actually, from the same job
graduating from the same school

905
00:56:01,860 --> 00:56:05,640
with working the same hours in
the same industries and

906
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,540
occupations. Alright, so we look
at graduating to a pay gap and

907
00:56:09,540 --> 00:56:12,510
the methodology we use. You can
see the pay gap is very real.

908
00:56:12,540 --> 00:56:15,120
All right. Thanks for that.
Aaron. Sabrina, back to you for

909
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,550
the last word. There have been
some studies that say when you

910
00:56:17,550 --> 00:56:20,430
control for education, when you
control for the job, there still

911
00:56:20,430 --> 00:56:23,490
is some kind of a pay gap there.
What's your take on that? Is

912
00:56:23,490 --> 00:56:26,670
there something that needs to be
done? Well, first of all, there

913
00:56:26,670 --> 00:56:30,690
is a very small pay gap, maybe
four or five, six cents, some of

914
00:56:30,690 --> 00:56:33,060
which may be explained by
discrimination. Certainly some

915
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:35,430
of it may be explained by
women's choices and women's

916
00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:38,370
behavior things like we know,
for instance, that women don't

917
00:56:38,370 --> 00:56:41,400
negotiate their wages as often
as men do. This can have an

918
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,030
impact as well. What we want to
remind your viewers is that

919
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:47,970
there are already laws on the
books right the Equal Pay Act of

920
00:56:47,970 --> 00:56:52,680
1963 and the Civil Rights Act of
1964. Both protects women and

921
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,410
men against baseless gender
discrimination. The Lilly

922
00:56:55,410 --> 00:56:58,290
Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which
the President is touting today

923
00:56:58,410 --> 00:57:01,770
allows women to sue for
literally years after they might

924
00:57:01,770 --> 00:57:03,900
have discovered they were
discriminated against. So what

925
00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:06,780
we really want is to provide the
tools to women to better

926
00:57:06,780 --> 00:57:09,210
themselves. Learn how to
negotiate to learn conflict

927
00:57:09,210 --> 00:57:12,360
resolution to learn how to get
that corner office, this law

928
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,810
won't do that this law will
simply pad the pockets of trial

929
00:57:15,810 --> 00:57:16,350
lawyers.

930
00:57:17,490 --> 00:57:20,430
Not correct address inequities.
Where

931
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,520
we're going to sorry, we're out
of time, we're gonna have to do

932
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,950
this Andrew. Joining us,

933
00:57:26,310 --> 00:57:27,060
shut up.

934
00:57:28,050 --> 00:57:29,130
Shut up slave.

935
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,660
So let me just John, let me just
talk we're

936
00:57:30,660 --> 00:57:34,050
out of time, by the way, bothers
me more than anything else.

937
00:57:34,140 --> 00:57:34,470
Yeah, there's

938
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:39,510
not a guy. No, it's totally not.
Okay. Here's the AAUW with

939
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:47,550
current net assets $119,000,968.
For the woman who is talking

940
00:57:47,550 --> 00:57:49,710
about the pay gap and how we
need to do things, they have a

941
00:57:49,710 --> 00:57:54,900
lot of money received 1010 and a
half million dollars this year,

942
00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:57,780
of course, we can't really tell
where it's coming from. But I

943
00:57:57,780 --> 00:58:00,750
will tell you what they spend it
on their top three programs

944
00:58:00,780 --> 00:58:04,470
outreach, as a core
organizational function includes

945
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:07,710
the programs and activities that
communicate with members and the

946
00:58:07,710 --> 00:58:10,350
general public in order to
advance equity for women and

947
00:58:10,350 --> 00:58:14,370
girls through education,
philanthropy, and research

948
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,210
implemented at the National
local levels. So it is a

949
00:58:18,210 --> 00:58:21,390
lobbying group, and they're
very, very well funded clearly.

950
00:58:22,350 --> 00:58:24,690
And what I thought was
interesting is how they spend

951
00:58:24,690 --> 00:58:28,500
some of this money, just like
we're looking at this form 990s

952
00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:31,740
Because funny things, how they
run this business, I wanted to

953
00:58:31,740 --> 00:58:37,290
ask you what you thought of
this. So first of all, they put

954
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:43,140
11 and a half million dollars of
their money into the lighthouse

955
00:58:43,140 --> 00:58:46,860
diversified fund. They also have
about half a million dollars in

956
00:58:46,860 --> 00:58:50,280
mineral rights under the
investments and securities part

957
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,580
of their form. That's okay as it
makes sense for them to invest.

958
00:58:53,580 --> 00:58:58,260
But the the lighthouse fund is
very funny that they would do

959
00:58:58,260 --> 00:59:03,390
that because it is formerly the
Monroe partners. All of the

960
00:59:03,390 --> 00:59:05,730
former Monroe partners are in
there. And if you look at who

961
00:59:05,730 --> 00:59:12,600
Monroe was one row trout Jr. who
I believe has passed on now but

962
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:19,140
he was a complete iron Rand
objectivism fan is pretty much

963
00:59:19,140 --> 00:59:23,850
the opposite of what of I think
what the AAUW would want to be

964
00:59:23,850 --> 00:59:27,000
or want to be known as very
interesting to see where they're

965
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,900
putting their money, but the way
they spend it, and you tell me

966
00:59:30,900 --> 00:59:35,220
if this makes any sense to you,
John, here we go. So fundraising

967
00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:40,440
activity, they have a 123 they
have one fundraising consultant

968
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:49,680
in Arlington, Virginia and they
spent $174,665 And that resulted

969
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,340
in zero gross receipts from the
activities that just a

970
00:59:53,340 --> 00:59:57,210
consultant. Then they had
telemarketing membership

971
00:59:57,570 --> 01:00:02,190
development from Gordon and
Schwenke Meyer Inc. in El

972
01:00:02,190 --> 01:00:10,080
Segundo, El Segundo, California,
they raised $78,611 And they

973
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:16,830
paid for that fundraising derive
$76,604 of net result.

974
01:00:16,830 --> 01:00:25,650
$2,000 $2,007 This seems like a,
like a bad deal. Yeah. I mean,

975
01:00:27,330 --> 01:00:28,260
how does that work?

976
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,110
They didn't work out. Well,
here's

977
01:00:31,110 --> 01:00:35,700
another one. comnet marketing in
Medford, Oregon. gross receipts

978
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:41,670
from activity 42,765 They paid
to the fundraiser this marketing

979
01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:50,640
group 46,491 They lost $3,726 on
the deal. How does? How does

980
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:56,010
that work? So they raised people
send money $46,000 was sent in.

981
01:00:56,190 --> 01:01:00,810
Yeah. And then the guys who made
the call took all of it. Yeah.

982
01:01:01,140 --> 01:01:01,620
Well, how does

983
01:01:02,190 --> 01:01:05,730
pretty common, by the way in
boiler rooms? Well, they were

984
01:01:05,730 --> 01:01:08,850
hoping they, you know, they
haven't developed a pitch. They

985
01:01:08,850 --> 01:01:11,760
went to the boiler room company
that these marketers that

986
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,000
telemarketers, and they went
back and forth with what can you

987
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,550
what can you do for me? Well, we
can make in the boiler room,

988
01:01:17,550 --> 01:01:21,480
guys, as usual, would promise
the moon and deliver nothing

989
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:27,300
I see differently. I see it as
these guys have a Rolodex. And

990
01:01:27,300 --> 01:01:32,040
they're going to call someone
outside of their activity. And

991
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,730
here's my bill, it's $76,000 and
we'll raise some money for you.

992
01:01:36,030 --> 01:01:39,480
But really, we're just taking
your money for you getting

993
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,600
access to the $10 million you
did receive because if you look

994
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:48,330
at the total gross receipts for
their name, and for their

995
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:53,490
fundraising activities as listed
on their tax form, they raised

996
01:01:53,490 --> 01:01:58,890
160,325 And they paid out to the
very people who raised this

997
01:01:58,890 --> 01:02:07,710
$160,000 343,831 and net loss of
$183,506 I'm saying maybe you

998
01:02:07,710 --> 01:02:08,970
shouldn't fundraise

999
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,990
Well, the argument against that
is you get your name out there

1000
01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:20,160
and it's like it's like brand
advertising where you just put

1001
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,330
the brand name on I just

1002
01:02:21,330 --> 01:02:23,790
like to know where the other
nine and a half million dollars

1003
01:02:23,790 --> 01:02:24,750
came from. They don't care

1004
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,050
if came from the direct sales I
mean that's where you get direct

1005
01:02:29,070 --> 01:02:30,090
direct sales

1006
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,490
yes direct sales is what it
amounts to is where they go to

1007
01:02:32,490 --> 01:02:35,250
you go to the found various
foundations that dole out money,

1008
01:02:35,250 --> 01:02:38,520
we talk about them all the time.
We have probably if we had our

1009
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,340
own we if we started making a
Rolodex we'd have a big one. And

1010
01:02:41,340 --> 01:02:43,230
we talked about them all the
time on the show and you go to

1011
01:02:43,230 --> 01:02:46,470
them directly and they give you
their here's a check for 100,000

1012
01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:48,720
Here's a check for right okay,
we were like What are you doing?

1013
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,630
Here's a check for 250 Those are
the big big money that's the big

1014
01:02:51,630 --> 01:02:55,170
money and then the little money
which is they're trying to they

1015
01:02:55,170 --> 01:02:57,600
can't seem to get it because I
didn't know their pitches no

1016
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,690
good. I more inclined to think
that their pitch sucks.

1017
01:03:01,770 --> 01:03:08,220
Well, anyway, and results. I
would implore the women and the

1018
01:03:08,220 --> 01:03:12,360
feminist movement and i can't i
i believe i am a feminist I am

1019
01:03:12,510 --> 01:03:14,700
very what

1020
01:03:15,149 --> 01:03:18,809
the wise bullcrap. That's bull
crap. I'm a feminist. I'm a

1021
01:03:18,809 --> 01:03:21,659
lesbian. I see guys do this all
the time. It's just a kiss ass

1022
01:03:21,689 --> 01:03:25,829
commentary. Go on. Sorry, I just
bugs me when somebody says

1023
01:03:25,829 --> 01:03:30,119
they're a feminist and they're a
guy. It's for women only. It's a

1024
01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:31,709
women's only club. Hello.

1025
01:03:31,740 --> 01:03:34,920
Well, what can I call myself?
I'm a I'm a promoter of women.

1026
01:03:35,370 --> 01:03:38,100
Sympathetic, maybe is
sympathetic to the feminist

1027
01:03:38,130 --> 01:03:39,720
movement. That's fine.

1028
01:03:39,779 --> 01:03:44,069
Okay. I am sympathetic to the
feminist movement. Okay, that's

1029
01:03:44,069 --> 01:03:46,769
good. That's like that and I
want you to be aware that you're

1030
01:03:46,769 --> 01:03:50,309
being duped by a bunch of people
who only want you to vote

1031
01:03:50,309 --> 01:03:54,989
Democrat for their own good they
do not care about you

1032
01:03:55,020 --> 01:03:58,710
road you know we have we this is
a common theme I think we could

1033
01:03:58,710 --> 01:04:02,010
probably do half of our stuff is
just you're being duped or

1034
01:04:02,010 --> 01:04:06,000
trying to screw women into
voting Democrat and it's

1035
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:06,810
working.

1036
01:04:07,050 --> 01:04:10,800
And yes, the Republicans are
stupid. They don't know how to

1037
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,900
do this. They're completely
dumb.

1038
01:04:13,290 --> 01:04:16,710
They're flat footed. I don't
think they're stupid. I think

1039
01:04:16,710 --> 01:04:19,470
one I think there's a couple of
things going on one I don't

1040
01:04:19,470 --> 01:04:23,580
think they're noticing. That's
even worse. naive. I don't think

1041
01:04:23,580 --> 01:04:26,100
there's literally stupid I think
they're naive. They're not

1042
01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:30,570
noticing. And and the site and
the activist and the Republican

1043
01:04:30,570 --> 01:04:35,640
side, which I would include
people like Oh, Riley Yeah, he's

1044
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:39,900
a Democrat. Let's say he Johnny
Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity and

1045
01:04:39,900 --> 01:04:44,580
Lynn bar, good examples. They
are clueless. And they're

1046
01:04:44,580 --> 01:04:47,520
leading in there and they're
also I don't know, there's a

1047
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,680
bunch of things I listen to
these guys and I'm always

1048
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:56,700
thinking that they're so they're
kind of arrogant about it to a

1049
01:04:56,700 --> 01:04:59,550
point to a point which is also I
think, annoying to women.

1050
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,380
Because arrogant men are not
well received, it's been, I

1051
01:05:04,380 --> 01:05:08,010
think I think I'm right on that.
Yeah, I don't know. All I know

1052
01:05:08,010 --> 01:05:09,630
is that there'll be left and
right. Every time you turn

1053
01:05:09,630 --> 01:05:13,020
around the Republicans expect to
take the Senate in this next

1054
01:05:13,020 --> 01:05:16,170
election. I don't think they're
going to do it. Everybody says

1055
01:05:16,170 --> 01:05:19,530
they're going to do it, I don't
see it. So things are gonna get

1056
01:05:19,530 --> 01:05:22,470
sideswiped once again, because
they don't know what's going on

1057
01:05:22,470 --> 01:05:23,190
in the culture.

1058
01:05:24,540 --> 01:05:31,020
So I would just say, to just to
wrap this up, that I I saw the

1059
01:05:31,020 --> 01:05:36,030
video with Ray Rice date. And I
was shocked, shocked. I I've

1060
01:05:36,030 --> 01:05:38,850
never hit a woman. I know what
it's like to be hit in the face.

1061
01:05:39,330 --> 01:05:44,790
I've not I've not been knocked
out. But I certainly saw stars

1062
01:05:44,790 --> 01:05:50,190
like in the cartoons. And and
that that has just been papered

1063
01:05:50,190 --> 01:05:57,450
over. And that there is just no
absolute outrage about that yet.

1064
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:03,690
Let's go after the equal pay,
you know, when the atrocities

1065
01:06:03,690 --> 01:06:09,300
against women are so rampant
across the world, and you know,

1066
01:06:09,330 --> 01:06:12,960
it has to be it has to be for
everything. It can't just be I

1067
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,210
don't want to just yelling about
the pay gap.

1068
01:06:15,300 --> 01:06:19,020
I don't want to sound racist
here. But there is an overriding

1069
01:06:19,020 --> 01:06:23,130
assumption that black people are
Democrats and so this issue with

1070
01:06:23,130 --> 01:06:27,000
this black guy punching out a
black woman should not be

1071
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,850
brought to the fore because it
would not help the cause of

1072
01:06:29,850 --> 01:06:36,180
getting women to vote Democrat.
Yeah. So they're never come up

1073
01:06:36,180 --> 01:06:37,110
in the conversation.

1074
01:06:38,550 --> 01:06:41,250
Not that we're gonna fix this
but uh, but I did want to at

1075
01:06:41,250 --> 01:06:43,680
least play Milton Friedman. I
want people to hear these two

1076
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:50,580
women having this conversation
because the the actual, I have

1077
01:06:50,580 --> 01:06:53,340
not seen the text of the bill,
but the actual bill seems like

1078
01:06:53,340 --> 01:06:57,960
it would not help women and the
narrative that is being

1079
01:06:58,050 --> 01:07:00,840
presented by people like Sarah
Silverman, and although it's

1080
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,700
funny, you know, vagina attacks,

1081
01:07:02,820 --> 01:07:04,200
ha ha ha.

1082
01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:08,640
It is not, it does not appear
that the solution is going to

1083
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:13,440
help you. And if anything, you
are being manipulated, duped,

1084
01:07:13,470 --> 01:07:17,970
duped, duped into something that
may not be advantageous to you.

1085
01:07:18,900 --> 01:07:19,620
And that's it.

1086
01:07:20,220 --> 01:07:21,780
I think you've made your point.

1087
01:07:21,870 --> 01:07:23,190
I think I have to, and I just

1088
01:07:23,190 --> 01:07:27,930
don't make it again, ever again.
To show my school by donate to

1089
01:07:27,930 --> 01:07:30,990
no agenda. Imagine all the
people who could do that. Oh,

1090
01:07:30,990 --> 01:07:31,890
yeah, that'd be fun.

1091
01:07:38,670 --> 01:07:42,540
I just want to make sure that
this was a long conversation

1092
01:07:42,540 --> 01:07:45,210
that was very, you know, when
men and women these

1093
01:07:45,210 --> 01:07:49,740
conversations are going to be
held and I think that everyone

1094
01:07:49,740 --> 01:07:52,170
deserves a little extra
information that you're not

1095
01:07:52,170 --> 01:07:54,900
getting on. I don't know. What
the fuck do I know? I'm just

1096
01:07:54,900 --> 01:07:57,900
saying this is some information
you might want to have. Do you?

1097
01:07:57,930 --> 01:08:01,470
Did you get it? Who won the
argument? Okay, you had you mark

1098
01:08:01,470 --> 01:08:03,990
who else was at this little
dinner? Just you and Mark and

1099
01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:08,640
Mickey at our house? And who
else? No one? Oh Mark came over

1100
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:15,750
as a solo. Maybe it's expecting
like a threesome or some? Asking

1101
01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:16,830
I'm just I didn't

1102
01:08:16,889 --> 01:08:20,759
I didn't cross my mind. I'll
talk to him about it. You're

1103
01:08:20,759 --> 01:08:23,279
going to Panama with the three
of us on a sailboat. Now I'm not

1104
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:23,819
worried.

1105
01:08:26,580 --> 01:08:30,510
To introduce you to a sailboat.
We're going to put this side

1106
01:08:30,510 --> 01:08:36,600
where that may get let's make
our own someplace new. Hello,

1107
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:42,300
Natalie Wood. He went he was
angry. He left in the rowboat.

1108
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:44,010
And we never heard from him
again.

1109
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,220
Because I did yeah. That's

1110
01:08:52,229 --> 01:08:58,349
he's a lawyer but our friend
Mark so he's, he's a lawyer. I'm

1111
01:08:58,349 --> 01:09:02,009
all All I want is when I see
what's going on in the news and

1112
01:09:02,039 --> 01:09:07,139
what is what laws are being
presented. And you know, I hear

1113
01:09:07,259 --> 01:09:10,769
the messages being propagated it
because it's very compelling.

1114
01:09:10,799 --> 01:09:13,979
Yeah, Sarah Silverman says it's
a very compelling message.

1115
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:17,580
Yeah, like really a lot of women
don't like Sarah Silverman. So

1116
01:09:17,790 --> 01:09:19,560
that's the plus side but just
having

1117
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,410
some basic information as part
of what we do no matter how I

1118
01:09:22,410 --> 01:09:26,040
come about. I think you did a
fine job. Move on. Hello,

1119
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:26,670
everybody. Thank

1120
01:09:26,670 --> 01:09:29,100
you very much the basis I still
wanted to figure out this. I

1121
01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:30,300
didn't know about the threesome.

1122
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,630
No threesome. No threesome?

1123
01:09:33,660 --> 01:09:36,900
Yeah, that will be on the boat.
Sir. Boat.

1124
01:09:37,290 --> 01:09:41,040
We're going to we're going to
the indigenous people of Panama

1125
01:09:41,070 --> 01:09:43,350
which Miki hopes to photograph

1126
01:09:43,410 --> 01:09:46,170
once you take it. Take what you
want. You wanna take the train

1127
01:09:46,170 --> 01:09:47,760
or go through Mexico or
somewhere and get a lot of

1128
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:48,660
photos you can only

1129
01:09:48,660 --> 01:09:52,410
get there by by boat. You can't
get to these places any other

1130
01:09:52,410 --> 01:09:52,800
way.

1131
01:09:52,979 --> 01:09:56,009
You can take the Panama that
Trent that highway that goes all

1132
01:09:56,009 --> 01:09:57,209
the way down to South America.
These

1133
01:09:57,210 --> 01:09:58,410
are islands John,

1134
01:09:58,680 --> 01:09:59,970
are you going to Island

1135
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,110
yeah there's a whole separate
state their own state lies

1136
01:10:04,110 --> 01:10:07,710
this part of the story Yeah. Oh
geez I better take some

1137
01:10:07,710 --> 01:10:11,730
insurance policies sure Mark
workman I want to say what what

1138
01:10:11,730 --> 01:10:13,290
do you didn't say in the
morning? Hey,

1139
01:10:13,290 --> 01:10:16,260
what I want to say is thank you
for your courage and in the

1140
01:10:16,260 --> 01:10:20,310
morning to you John C. Dvorak.
You I was so confused. I played

1141
01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:24,960
the Beatle jingle which you
don't even Yes, I am a mess

1142
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,170
I have would be true if I was
taking a boat to the middle

1143
01:10:28,170 --> 01:10:29,940
of nowhere for a threesome.

1144
01:10:31,830 --> 01:10:33,900
Memorial a ship to see boots on
the ground feeding the Arabs in

1145
01:10:33,900 --> 01:10:35,640
the water and the Dames and the
Knights out there. I want to

1146
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:36,990
thank Pastor Mark

1147
01:10:37,019 --> 01:10:40,289
All right, let me thank everyone
in the chat room. We got to do

1148
01:10:40,289 --> 01:10:44,009
it properly. And let me thank
our artists. No Yes. Which

1149
01:10:44,009 --> 01:10:45,029
includes

1150
01:10:45,090 --> 01:10:46,890
no one if you get the artists.

1151
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:53,820
What happened to my hair this
morning JJ varn JJ had the

1152
01:10:53,820 --> 01:10:57,510
artwork for episode 659 And I
don't think he's been on in a

1153
01:10:57,510 --> 01:11:02,610
while. Oh, it's about time. And
we look forward to what will

1154
01:11:02,610 --> 01:11:09,000
come up for this episode. Six
zero no agenda art generator.com

1155
01:11:09,210 --> 01:11:12,600
that somebody would come in with
a 660 donation but no,

1156
01:11:12,780 --> 01:11:14,850
we had a six zero plus six.

1157
01:11:15,210 --> 01:11:19,230
Yeah, I guess that counts. Yes,
sir. Mark workman came in today

1158
01:11:19,230 --> 01:11:24,480
from Dayton Ohio, who is now a
Baronet. For $789.10 Never

1159
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:28,950
really explains why this number
and he sent a note in and all it

1160
01:11:28,950 --> 01:11:32,370
says is you'd like to Hillary
delicious. Then the little girl

1161
01:11:32,370 --> 01:11:36,360
Don't eat me and I would assume
you will know when you assume

1162
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:40,800
you make an a you know what? A
Carmen after that. And he's

1163
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:43,410
wants to be he has a name for
what he wants to be the bearer

1164
01:11:43,410 --> 01:11:47,820
of but I'm not going to I'm
going to put it aside I'm not

1165
01:11:47,820 --> 01:11:50,460
going to read it because he
doesn't want anyone stealing it.

1166
01:11:50,460 --> 01:11:52,290
So I think he wanted this to be
private that

1167
01:11:52,559 --> 01:11:56,879
almost too delicious to believe
my friend Hillary Clinton.

1168
01:11:58,980 --> 01:12:02,040
You've got karma very happy to
do that. Thank

1169
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:05,760
you. She wants to be a Baron of
place but Baronet would be the

1170
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,250
Can we give him Baronet of the
place and then he would have

1171
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,880
locked in while you're in charge
of the psi would think so. I'm I

1172
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,060
know I'm in charge of peerage.
Well, let's give him Baronet of

1173
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,070
golf Gulch.

1174
01:12:17,940 --> 01:12:20,610
I thought someone already had
golf Gosh, thanks. So

1175
01:12:20,700 --> 01:12:23,910
he's somebody bear in mind and
if they do, because he wants to

1176
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:27,210
be the Baron of Gold is gold
going out of I can't even say

1177
01:12:27,210 --> 01:12:36,090
it. Golf. Sir de JD black Baron
of Silicon Valley 666 66 as

1178
01:12:36,090 --> 01:12:39,150
special very special ITM from
the Baron of Silicon Valley

1179
01:12:39,150 --> 01:12:42,510
traveling on the East Coast like
to take the special double 666

1180
01:12:42,510 --> 01:12:48,600
is 66 dash zero dash 66 plus $6
is my club 660 Plus show 666

1181
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,090
Double producer ship and
starting donation for my

1182
01:12:51,090 --> 01:12:54,450
daughter's name hood. Titled to
be determined. I hereby

1183
01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:58,380
challenge the no agenda nation
peerage and listenership to a

1184
01:12:58,620 --> 01:13:01,080
provide at least one double
producer ship for this and the

1185
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,720
next six shows seven
opportunities to celebrate the

1186
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:08,190
year seven countdown please give
the following. Boom shaka laka

1187
01:13:08,190 --> 01:13:11,520
ITM karma to all those who need
it and deserve it douchebag call

1188
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:16,170
out to the same those that need
and deserve douchebag beggary

1189
01:13:16,260 --> 01:13:19,110
Keep up the great work and the
best podcast in the universe.

1190
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,750
Well, let's give out the he
wants. It's not really how it

1191
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:26,850
works. But he wants a douchebag
call out to those who deserve

1192
01:13:26,850 --> 01:13:32,940
it. So happy to do that. And
then here's your your requested

1193
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:39,540
combo. What's that? Where'd that
come from? Here we go.

1194
01:13:45,150 --> 01:13:51,960
You've got karma. Now yes,
that's where it came from. I got

1195
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:58,110
it. Please rise in recognition
of certainty.

1196
01:14:06,930 --> 01:14:13,920
David Foley, Sir David Foley,
Grand Duke, David Foley 333 49

1197
01:14:13,950 --> 01:14:18,600
Los Gatos, California. By TM
Gentlemen, this show has been on

1198
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:23,310
a roll lately. With some
incredible analysis and

1199
01:14:23,310 --> 01:14:26,490
identification of terms and
memes not found anywhere else.

1200
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,600
And closed Please find my
donation of 333 plus 49 cents to

1201
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:34,350
celebrate my 49th birthday is on
the list on the 13th Keep up the

1202
01:14:34,350 --> 01:14:35,100
great work.

1203
01:14:35,130 --> 01:14:37,140
You know why the show's been on
a roll? Don't you?

1204
01:14:37,590 --> 01:14:38,010
know

1205
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,970
that's how we That's how we
roll. Yeah, you're right. That's

1206
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,360
a little bit of karma for the
grand as always happy to do

1207
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:52,740
that. You've got karma. Oh, at
this note I received it was 130

1208
01:14:52,740 --> 01:14:55,800
I get into bed Miss Mickey's
already asleep and I'm just

1209
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,640
reading through you know, I
always have to do a couple

1210
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,760
emails. Oh, by the time I leave
the studio get into bed. There's

1211
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:06,120
another 30 emails, which let me
just say something right now. I

1212
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,690
keep forgetting to do this. If
you want to send me a link

1213
01:15:11,610 --> 01:15:14,100
or something to look at Eric
Gamzee, record this

1214
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:21,030
snow this is new sent tweet me.
It is much more effective, much

1215
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:26,940
more efficient. Do not put me on
your email list for all your

1216
01:15:26,940 --> 01:15:34,200
buddies. No, no, no, no. Just at
Twitter as Adam curry. It is so

1217
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,930
much more efficient than I can
respond. Other people can see

1218
01:15:36,930 --> 01:15:40,350
now you're also limited because
people like let me tell you my

1219
01:15:40,350 --> 01:15:46,830
life story. And here's a link. I
don't always need your analysis

1220
01:15:46,830 --> 01:15:49,620
and then the link to send me the
link. If you have something.

1221
01:15:49,650 --> 01:15:52,320
This is interesting, because
you've been complaining about

1222
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:57,210
this, because I can't keep up
anymore. You used to say, don't

1223
01:15:57,210 --> 01:16:02,010
just send me a link. Send me
some reason this link exists. So

1224
01:16:02,010 --> 01:16:04,620
I can decide whether I want to
click on it or not. Now you're

1225
01:16:04,620 --> 01:16:05,580
saying just send a link

1226
01:16:05,580 --> 01:16:07,950
I'm saying something different.
I'm saying I want you to be

1227
01:16:07,950 --> 01:16:11,430
limited to 140 characters to
explain why I should click on

1228
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:15,720
this link instead of me having
to look look at the subject open

1229
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,980
it up read this click on the
link then and sometimes these

1230
01:16:19,980 --> 01:16:23,190
links don't don't work and I
have to go find just please

1231
01:16:23,340 --> 01:16:26,820
If Adam curry.com/back FAQ.

1232
01:16:26,940 --> 01:16:30,510
I don't have that. I have
Twitter comm slash Adam curry.

1233
01:16:30,930 --> 01:16:36,630
That's and other people can also
okay. It's important. So I'm

1234
01:16:36,630 --> 01:16:43,350
Liam reading this from our vi
count of Tokyo. I just I just

1235
01:16:43,350 --> 01:16:47,280
started as she called the
Chicago Slovak by counters. I

1236
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,830
guess she does. I just start
giggling

1237
01:16:51,480 --> 01:16:53,940
I don't know why. 130 in the
morning is why

1238
01:16:54,030 --> 01:16:56,430
and Mickey woke up. She says
what's up? I'm gonna go to

1239
01:16:56,430 --> 01:16:59,700
sleep. Why are you giggling?
Don't worry about it. I'll tell

1240
01:16:59,700 --> 01:17:04,020
you tomorrow. He got an email
from Dame Astrid I'll read it to

1241
01:17:04,020 --> 01:17:09,780
me. I thought it was I liked the
note. Read it. Thank you for my

1242
01:17:09,780 --> 01:17:15,000
good health. So far. It's the
she she throws us a trough of

1243
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:20,580
threes. 33333 Thank you very
much for my good health. The

1244
01:17:20,580 --> 01:17:24,540
endorphins accumulated through
laughter while listening to no

1245
01:17:24,540 --> 01:17:29,640
agenda get me through life with
a refreshing breeze. I most

1246
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:35,520
enjoy the sawing sound clip this
is why I started this is where I

1247
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:41,070
started to giggle like I'm doing
it again. Occasionally I do some

1248
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:46,350
DIY and saw off two by fours yes
even dames indulge of a bit of

1249
01:17:46,350 --> 01:17:49,830
the therapeutic sewing. But now
I look at a piece of wood and

1250
01:17:49,830 --> 01:17:53,370
all I can think of is and her
head is gone.

1251
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:57,990
This sexuality it's in your DNA.

1252
01:17:58,410 --> 01:18:01,290
It is scary and wretched and
miserable. It is

1253
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,450
gross. And her head is gone.

1254
01:18:04,440 --> 01:18:06,930
Please give yourselves a big
karma shot made the mainstream

1255
01:18:06,930 --> 01:18:10,770
media keep you inspired and
comedy show running day master

1256
01:18:10,770 --> 01:18:14,940
advised Countess of Tokyo thanks
very much day Masquerade. You've

1257
01:18:14,940 --> 01:18:16,290
got karma

1258
01:18:18,660 --> 01:18:24,030
indeed, that was 333 33 from de
mas stryd As Steven ag gar who

1259
01:18:24,060 --> 01:18:28,200
hoody Agha hoody. A Garate I
don't know yet I get a shot at

1260
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:33,720
it 314 59 from Southampton, UK.
Very brief note to request some

1261
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,660
job karma as I post proach the
last few dollars before

1262
01:18:36,660 --> 01:18:38,910
achieving knighthood and a
birthday shout out from my

1263
01:18:38,910 --> 01:18:41,610
fiance Sue who is celebrating
her birthday on the show day

1264
01:18:42,030 --> 01:18:46,320
carry and carry on with the best
value for value dollar podcast

1265
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:51,840
in the universe. Brandy dollar
back to you in the studios,

1266
01:18:52,020 --> 01:18:56,730
Steven Aguilar hoody at gar
Hootie, pronounced Steven like

1267
01:18:56,730 --> 01:19:04,620
Steven not Stefan. Like Mike gar
Mike guerre, not Edgar. Edgar a

1268
01:19:04,620 --> 01:19:08,100
gear a gear a gear hoodie. Okay.

1269
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:09,330
Yeah, well, good work.

1270
01:19:11,340 --> 01:19:15,540
Jobs, jobs and jobs or jobs.

1271
01:19:18,420 --> 01:19:21,210
Finished another line is hottie
not Hootie.

1272
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:24,090
Egg gauger Hudy.

1273
01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:28,020
Hottie this is what I say. That
right? I said Edgar How do you

1274
01:19:29,310 --> 01:19:33,480
know? Edgar, honey, Stephen?
Thank you very much. Sir Thomas

1275
01:19:33,480 --> 01:19:36,600
Nussbaum in Virginia Beach,
Virginia. You know about that

1276
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,710
nice town. Oh, yeah. 240 106 My
birthday is 13th October along

1277
01:19:40,710 --> 01:19:42,600
with the we don't have on the
birthday list. Yes.

1278
01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:46,560
Pretty sure we do. Looks like is
that night yellow what he has

1279
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:46,830
there?

1280
01:19:46,830 --> 01:19:49,440
What's not see yellow here on
mine.

1281
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,550
It looks I have it's a lighter
yellow. I will say that.

1282
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,820
Okay, well, it's different. My
busy on the list or not? I'm

1283
01:19:56,820 --> 01:19:59,610
gonna go check. My birthday is
the 13th of October along with

1284
01:19:59,610 --> 01:20:03,390
the United state's Navy Donta
Tada. This now makes me barren

1285
01:20:03,390 --> 01:20:08,850
of Hampton Roads. That's nice
barren of Hampton Roads. This is

1286
01:20:08,850 --> 01:20:12,390
like we're the area where the
monitor and the Merrimack had

1287
01:20:12,390 --> 01:20:16,140
their big battle. Yes it is on
the list was the beginning of

1288
01:20:16,140 --> 01:20:20,970
the end for old fashioned ship
warfare. I may assign the

1289
01:20:20,970 --> 01:20:25,140
honorary titles such as Sheriff
and magistrate to the Seven

1290
01:20:25,140 --> 01:20:28,380
Cities of Chesapeake, Hampton,
Newport News, Norfolk,

1291
01:20:29,250 --> 01:20:35,160
Portsmouth, Suffolk and Virginia
Beach. Wow. Love to all the no

1292
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,970
agenda crew John, Adam, Mickey
and Mimi, thank you to nick the

1293
01:20:38,970 --> 01:20:42,960
rat and Martin JJ to keep the
cover skills up. Nice. Boom

1294
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,280
shaka laka. And that's how we
roll. Bingo, boom

1295
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:55,950
that's how we that's how we are.

1296
01:21:01,020 --> 01:21:02,010
And that's the story.

1297
01:21:03,930 --> 01:21:10,650
I love that clip. Sir Norman
McDonough in Woodstock, Ontario.

1298
01:21:10,650 --> 01:21:16,080
23456. Hooray. From Sir Norman.
Happy Canadian Thanksgiving. If

1299
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:20,280
you get this on time. May I have
a stuttering Obama Porky Pig?

1300
01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:24,210
Well, there you go. Anything
from Al Sharpton course? Let's

1301
01:21:24,210 --> 01:21:24,630
do that.

1302
01:21:34,770 --> 01:21:35,640
And that's the store.

1303
01:21:35,670 --> 01:21:37,560
There's no real contract.

1304
01:21:40,140 --> 01:21:47,430
Okay. Yes, that's our show.
Ladies and gentlemen. Flajnik

1305
01:21:48,180 --> 01:21:52,320
zinzino Ease can't get his last
name on the

1306
01:21:52,590 --> 01:21:55,530
deck. Does he need t shirt?

1307
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,430
Where'd you get you get a
special note from him? No, no.

1308
01:21:59,430 --> 01:22:00,930
Just general purpose karma.

1309
01:22:01,050 --> 01:22:04,920
Oh, happy to do that.
Absolutely. Come on. Board deck

1310
01:22:04,950 --> 01:22:10,230
yo dot karma. We needed a
pronunciation guide for that

1311
01:22:10,230 --> 01:22:10,560
one. That's

1312
01:22:10,980 --> 01:22:13,500
the pole. Yeah, the pollution is
there's actually not that hard,

1313
01:22:13,500 --> 01:22:16,470
but we just don't have the right
reference book in front of us.

1314
01:22:17,130 --> 01:22:21,240
And finally, last but not least,
is if I can get to think back at

1315
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:25,470
Chris Perry. In Silver Springs,
Maryland. $200. You asked I

1316
01:22:25,470 --> 01:22:29,460
delivered by the way a TMC karma
for nice job back in California.

1317
01:22:29,940 --> 01:22:35,760
I get a dwell in the DMV, but
this shit is killing me. paint

1318
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:41,850
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs.

1319
01:22:44,940 --> 01:22:48,900
What it is that she gets paid?
Well, I thought too. Yeah, yeah,

1320
01:22:48,900 --> 01:22:51,510
it gets paid well in the DMV,
but the crap doesn't like the

1321
01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:53,850
job. And we want to thank them
and all the other donors for

1322
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1323
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1324
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1325
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,410
next upcoming show on Thursday,
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1326
01:23:07,410 --> 01:23:07,950
we can get

1327
01:23:08,460 --> 01:23:13,440
devora.org/n A and along with
that, we also need you to

1328
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:15,900
continue to be on the lookout
for the choir to sing to them

1329
01:23:15,900 --> 01:23:18,120
and propagate the formula. Our
formula is

1330
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,810
this. We go out. We hit people
in the mouth.

1331
01:23:34,590 --> 01:23:38,610
Freedom, subjugation is
liberation contracts.

1332
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:56,370
And those, of course are as I
explained to mark yesterday,

1333
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:57,960
explain what

1334
01:23:58,140 --> 01:24:00,630
the credits, they're real
credits that just like Harry

1335
01:24:00,630 --> 01:24:04,260
will credits, and he's an actual
producer of an actual movie that

1336
01:24:04,260 --> 01:24:08,160
you can find on, you know,
iTunes and Netflix and Yeah, and

1337
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,860
he's the producers the show, it
is no difference he puts both on

1338
01:24:10,860 --> 01:24:11,580
his resume.

1339
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:14,460
Yeah, well, you could put this
Jeezy ever donate to the show.

1340
01:24:14,550 --> 01:24:16,680
Yeah, that's why he's a
producer. Yes. He's definitely

1341
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,160
donated to the show, as he put
it on his IMDb or his LinkedIn.

1342
01:24:20,610 --> 01:24:24,600
I believe he has it on his
business card. Oh, that's good.

1343
01:24:26,490 --> 01:24:26,970
All right.

1344
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,270
Cool. Okay. Well, I didn't mean
to like lead us all off into

1345
01:24:30,270 --> 01:24:31,800
that thing, but there was just
something different.

1346
01:24:31,889 --> 01:24:34,739
Yes. Seemed to be eaten out.
Yeah. Just to remember this

1347
01:24:34,739 --> 01:24:36,839
show. Powered by science

1348
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:43,650
powered by science. case you
were wondering. Okay. Oh, man,

1349
01:24:43,650 --> 01:24:50,940
there was it's been interesting
to this Ebola thing is just it's

1350
01:24:50,940 --> 01:24:52,530
so out of control.

1351
01:24:52,770 --> 01:24:54,420
I got no Ebola clips.

1352
01:24:55,710 --> 01:24:59,790
I have Do I have any but I think
I do actually just it's this is

1353
01:24:59,790 --> 01:25:10,770
so Oh out of control. What do I
have here? I have Yes, this is a

1354
01:25:10,770 --> 01:25:14,280
woman from the World Health
Organization, Dr. Eileen Marty,

1355
01:25:14,460 --> 01:25:18,120
and she was interviewed for I
don't think this was a TV show.

1356
01:25:18,150 --> 01:25:24,030
This was some web thing like
vise or Vox or whatever it is.

1357
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:31,410
And she has come back from West
Africa. I do have a boy even get

1358
01:25:31,410 --> 01:25:35,340
into that. I have a question.
You know, they always say this

1359
01:25:35,340 --> 01:25:39,480
thing has no borders. Ebola
knows no borders. Strangely

1360
01:25:39,480 --> 01:25:43,410
enough, it's in Nigeria, which
is pretty much not West Africa.

1361
01:25:43,980 --> 01:25:48,780
So it didn't know how to jump
into that border. But if you

1362
01:25:48,780 --> 01:25:53,100
look at the most recent news
from this week, Cote d'Ivoire,

1363
01:25:53,220 --> 01:25:57,480
the Ivory Coast has now resumed
its flights to countries struck

1364
01:25:57,480 --> 01:26:01,110
by the Ebola virus. Now the
Ivory Coast went through its

1365
01:26:01,110 --> 01:26:06,000
little issues a year or two ago.
And I think we straightened all

1366
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:10,800
of that out. And there's no more
political. We fix it. We fix the

1367
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:16,320
Ivory Coast. If you look at the
Ebola outbreak, it stops at the

1368
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:22,380
border of the Ivory Coast. Why
is it not spilling over into the

1369
01:26:22,380 --> 01:26:25,470
Ivory Coast? And why are they
resuming their flights back to

1370
01:26:25,470 --> 01:26:30,210
their neighboring country where
the there are huge outbreaks?

1371
01:26:31,020 --> 01:26:32,550
Why would they do that?

1372
01:26:34,260 --> 01:26:36,060
Because it's Bogota, that would,

1373
01:26:36,270 --> 01:26:39,570
that would be pretty much what
I'm thinking. And there's this

1374
01:26:39,570 --> 01:26:45,060
map. I think the Guardian has a
map. It's in the show notes. I'm

1375
01:26:45,060 --> 01:26:51,360
not quite sure who. Where'd this
come from. But you can see the

1376
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:56,580
Ivory Coast. It had just has
nothing it has no Ebola, but it

1377
01:26:56,580 --> 01:27:01,020
neighbors on Sierra Leone. And
to where is this? Here it is

1378
01:27:01,500 --> 01:27:04,170
distribution map who makes this
map when we take a look at this

1379
01:27:04,170 --> 01:27:08,250
thing. It says that was CDC,
Diego CDC. So we have Guinea,

1380
01:27:08,250 --> 01:27:13,470
which has they got a little
piece of the action there. Then

1381
01:27:14,010 --> 01:27:17,250
Sierra Leone, Liberia, and then
it just stops at the border of

1382
01:27:17,250 --> 01:27:20,910
Cote d'Ivoire just stops. How is
it possible but really

1383
01:27:20,940 --> 01:27:25,740
at the border? On this map? It
is inside the country that I'm

1384
01:27:25,740 --> 01:27:28,560
looking at? It's up against the
border. Okay,

1385
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,320
let me slip I'm gonna put it
into the Skype window right now

1386
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,890
you go take a look at this from
the CDC. And you tell me that

1387
01:27:34,890 --> 01:27:37,830
it's not right up against the
border exactly what I'm saying

1388
01:27:37,860 --> 01:27:42,030
from the CDC that people who are
telling you about this danger,

1389
01:27:42,060 --> 01:27:42,870
do you have the link?

1390
01:27:43,530 --> 01:27:46,290
I see something beeped at me.
And now I gotta find where the

1391
01:27:46,290 --> 01:27:48,960
link cropped up. And you know,
this is that you really,

1392
01:27:48,990 --> 01:27:50,910
yeah, they've changed your
experience have upgraded your

1393
01:27:50,910 --> 01:27:52,650
experience again on Skype. But
there's a little

1394
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,260
bit here. I know what to do. I
think I think and I got it. I

1395
01:27:55,260 --> 01:27:56,760
got it. I got it. I got it. This
is

1396
01:27:57,870 --> 01:28:02,370
this is 2014 Ebola Ebola
outbreak in West Africa.

1397
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:03,750
Ebola,

1398
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:09,210
the outbreak distribution map.
Are you telling me that it's not

1399
01:28:09,210 --> 01:28:15,390
right up against the border? So
what? But that's the point.

1400
01:28:15,450 --> 01:28:18,300
Oh, actually, that's not true.
Look, there's a little bleed.

1401
01:28:19,410 --> 01:28:21,630
That's just because we ever made
the math couldn't color inside

1402
01:28:21,630 --> 01:28:22,740
the line? No, no,

1403
01:28:22,740 --> 01:28:27,930
there's that's not up against
the border. There's need Oh, not

1404
01:28:27,930 --> 01:28:28,800
a lot, John. There's

1405
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:29,460
not a lot of

1406
01:28:30,510 --> 01:28:33,210
George creeping I think that's
the impression of trying to give

1407
01:28:33,210 --> 01:28:36,330
us that is creeping past the
border so they can prove their

1408
01:28:36,330 --> 01:28:38,280
point. So your point is null and
void.

1409
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:42,150
Okay. All right. Fine. I'm null
and void. Draw your mind is not

1410
01:28:42,150 --> 01:28:47,160
you Dr. Marty, Dr. Aileen Marty,
who just came back from from

1411
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:52,320
Nigeria even says that she's
baffled the whole world health

1412
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,530
organization is baffled how this
can happen. She does have some

1413
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,490
answers to it. But she starts
off with the way to shake hands

1414
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:07,260
in, in Africa. What is bump? Not
even it's the Bluetooth. So

1415
01:29:07,260 --> 01:29:08,790
firstly, and so of course this
is visual

1416
01:29:08,820 --> 01:29:11,550
first when they're selling
phones now is that the idea is

1417
01:29:11,550 --> 01:29:14,700
behind the whole thing. Wait
until you hear it. Some phones

1418
01:29:14,700 --> 01:29:14,790
are

1419
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:21,540
first you touch elbows. What
kind of elbow what is the your

1420
01:29:21,540 --> 01:29:25,320
forearm you touch four arms.
Then you do the Bluetooth which

1421
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,980
is a fist bump that doesn't
touch. But also a kissing on the

1422
01:29:28,980 --> 01:29:31,620
cheek would be even less
dangerous. Just listen to this

1423
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:33,660
very interesting, very
interesting what

1424
01:29:33,660 --> 01:29:36,900
we were doing in Africa and that
I found that what we were doing

1425
01:29:36,900 --> 01:29:39,990
in Africa was extremely
effective as a public health

1426
01:29:39,990 --> 01:29:44,790
measure not just for Ebola, but
for many many other diseases

1427
01:29:44,790 --> 01:29:48,210
that we're communicating to each
other all the time. Get ready

1428
01:29:48,210 --> 01:29:50,730
for this is going to be this is
the President we'll be doing

1429
01:29:50,730 --> 01:29:53,610
this pretty soon with Michelle
the Bluetooth How do you show

1430
01:29:53,610 --> 01:29:54,420
me how are you

1431
01:29:54,450 --> 01:29:58,290
sure it's just this like that?
Yes, it's very friendly. You

1432
01:29:58,290 --> 01:30:02,010
know, actually Yeah, pushing you
know it's actually very

1433
01:30:02,010 --> 01:30:03,540
intimate. We do this

1434
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,670
touching elbows very intimate
this touching you

1435
01:30:06,270 --> 01:30:09,810
should just do a little a simple
wave or do a hip thrust. I think

1436
01:30:09,810 --> 01:30:11,910
that's read each other from now
on.

1437
01:30:12,210 --> 01:30:13,200
They do the blue.

1438
01:30:13,380 --> 01:30:15,450
I would just winking a girl's a
no.

1439
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:19,350
No, you don't touch it. Don't
touch. We didn't touch

1440
01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:22,050
Bluetooth. Just like that. Yeah,
exactly.

1441
01:30:22,350 --> 01:30:25,680
And do you think it's gonna be
gone cool in the United States?

1442
01:30:26,010 --> 01:30:29,520
Sure. Hope so. It would be
great. It would be great to

1443
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,730
switch from the handshake. Into
in which

1444
01:30:32,730 --> 01:30:36,480
we've been doing for 1000s of
years, 1000s of years,

1445
01:30:36,510 --> 01:30:41,520
something that is going to
reduce all kinds of infectious

1446
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:42,900
diseases. Common kissing,

1447
01:30:42,900 --> 01:30:45,900
no kissing like we're doing in
our community. Well,

1448
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:50,640
I love kissing, don't get me
wrong, but a little less. You

1449
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:54,360
know, tongue, you know, when you
kiss on the cheek, that's

1450
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:58,350
actually less dangerous than
holding hands. Because when you

1451
01:30:59,130 --> 01:31:02,880
grab somebody's hand, your
fingers are likely to touch

1452
01:31:02,910 --> 01:31:06,540
mucous membranes that you can
from which you can bring in

1453
01:31:06,540 --> 01:31:07,830
organisms when you're

1454
01:31:07,830 --> 01:31:11,520
talking to people and, and they
get close to you and they want

1455
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:15,540
to shake hands to you sort of
move back Do they say, Oh, this

1456
01:31:15,540 --> 01:31:17,250
doctor is too rude. Back.

1457
01:31:19,410 --> 01:31:21,690
What? Back off Dracula?

1458
01:31:22,980 --> 01:31:26,700
I think well, I just tell them
why I'm doing it. And I laugh

1459
01:31:26,700 --> 01:31:31,080
and and I explain what's going
on. And most people understand.

1460
01:31:31,110 --> 01:31:33,900
I think you're right. I think
that your idea of a hip thrust

1461
01:31:33,900 --> 01:31:34,980
is much more fun.

1462
01:31:35,250 --> 01:31:39,120
Yeah. Now, it would be
universal. Everyone could do it,

1463
01:31:39,180 --> 01:31:40,740
that everyone knows how to do
it.

1464
01:31:40,770 --> 01:31:43,080
You thrust your pace at a pelvic
thrust or

1465
01:31:43,110 --> 01:31:47,520
you dress like you're doing the
old Mondrian hug. You just give

1466
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:48,150
him one of those.

1467
01:31:48,180 --> 01:31:51,090
What could you do? Can you also
go like James Brown? Oh, yeah,

1468
01:31:51,090 --> 01:31:51,240
you

1469
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,010
should make the noise hit me two
times.

1470
01:31:54,330 --> 01:31:56,340
10 educational moment? Yeah,
it's an educational

1471
01:31:56,340 --> 01:31:56,820
moment. So

1472
01:31:56,820 --> 01:31:59,970
you were in Nigeria? You weren't
supposed to go to Sierra Leone.

1473
01:31:59,970 --> 01:32:02,370
But then you ended up going to
Nigeria? Correct. What do you

1474
01:32:02,370 --> 01:32:03,120
see in Nigeria?

1475
01:32:03,690 --> 01:32:07,200
Now, listen carefully what she's
saying, what is the first thing

1476
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,620
you'd expect her to say about
Nigeria? People bleeding from

1477
01:32:10,620 --> 01:32:14,970
the eyeballs, puking dying
everywhere? Horrible? No,

1478
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:19,650
she's seeing the Mendes poverty
mixed with some areas of wealth.

1479
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:24,210
But the vast majority of the
population is incredibly

1480
01:32:24,210 --> 01:32:28,500
impoverished. Even in the major
cities, there is their open

1481
01:32:28,500 --> 01:32:34,530
sewers, a lot of pollution. But
I also found a population of

1482
01:32:34,530 --> 01:32:39,750
individuals who were extremely
eager to assist the

1483
01:32:39,750 --> 01:32:42,510
international community in
helping to get rid of the

1484
01:32:42,510 --> 01:32:44,190
epidemic in Nigeria.

1485
01:32:44,220 --> 01:32:45,990
Why did it happen in West
Africa?

1486
01:32:46,050 --> 01:32:50,190
I wonder with this, these people
who were so willing to assist

1487
01:32:50,190 --> 01:32:52,650
the international community,
were they willing to bring

1488
01:32:52,650 --> 01:32:55,770
freedom and democracy to the
country as well? Is that part of

1489
01:32:55,770 --> 01:32:58,050
what they're so incredibly
excited about doing?

1490
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,740
Well, I was watching some
friends 24 coverage, and it's

1491
01:33:01,740 --> 01:33:04,020
really they're more interested
in getting a paycheck.

1492
01:33:06,780 --> 01:33:10,710
Yeah, that Well, that's it. I
also think there's just a elites

1493
01:33:10,710 --> 01:33:15,270
who are ready to take over the
country. And all of the oil

1494
01:33:15,270 --> 01:33:16,710
that's taken over

1495
01:33:16,710 --> 01:33:20,580
the country, I don't think they
I think we need to maintain cozy

1496
01:33:20,580 --> 01:33:22,410
up to maintain what's happened.
Nobody

1497
01:33:22,410 --> 01:33:26,790
knows why Ebola ended up in this
outbreak in West Africa. No one

1498
01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:29,790
knows how to how it got to
Guinea because it's never been

1499
01:33:29,790 --> 01:33:34,800
there before. Not discussed a
lot. Now one reason that has

1500
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:39,570
been thrown out there as a
possibility. And it's it's real

1501
01:33:39,570 --> 01:33:40,860
risk in that Chase.

1502
01:33:40,860 --> 01:33:44,970
Exactly. Right. You know why we
know how the bats this? I never

1503
01:33:44,970 --> 01:33:49,920
heard this warming. That was
That would really put the cherry

1504
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:50,970
on top of it. But no.

1505
01:33:51,900 --> 01:33:54,630
There's bushmeat involved one of
one of the problem.

1506
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,840
And let me tell you, whenever
this bushmeat I'm right at the

1507
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,150
front of the line, ladies and
gentlemen,

1508
01:34:00,180 --> 01:34:03,990
is that animals can get sick
with Ebola. And there's a

1509
01:34:03,990 --> 01:34:08,520
tremendous desire to eat for
example, bats. They think that

1510
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:09,510
meat is delicious.

1511
01:34:09,510 --> 01:34:13,590
Did not we have bats all over
Austin, we are going to die

1512
01:34:13,620 --> 01:34:16,410
have the bat restaurant you know
you can make your money and make

1513
01:34:16,410 --> 01:34:20,460
your millions by opening the bat
restaurant in Santa in Austin.

1514
01:34:20,490 --> 01:34:24,570
It's the bat bushmeat restaurant
as far as bat bushmeat

1515
01:34:24,570 --> 01:34:28,440
restaurant but once again your
proprietor Adam curry. Somehow

1516
01:34:28,440 --> 01:34:31,440
were able to blame it on bush.
It's amazing how they do this.

1517
01:34:31,860 --> 01:34:33,420
I did it twice. No, no,

1518
01:34:33,450 --> 01:34:41,310
no and I'm not that brave. But
so bad meat. So if someone

1519
01:34:41,340 --> 01:34:45,870
transported an infected animal
and that and it's not the the

1520
01:34:45,900 --> 01:34:49,650
Carterville the carcass is a
danger until it's cooked. So

1521
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:55,020
uncooked carcass of an infected
animal. Don't lick it from, say

1522
01:34:55,020 --> 01:34:58,110
somewhere in the Congo where
this has been described.

1523
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:02,760
This is ridiculous. If is tall.
It's absolutely ridiculous not

1524
01:35:03,060 --> 01:35:05,790
only have their own logo,
bushmeat,

1525
01:35:06,690 --> 01:35:09,900
bushmeat, he said bushmeat, it's

1526
01:35:09,900 --> 01:35:12,540
mostly monkeys, by the way
that's bushmeat. They don't I

1527
01:35:12,540 --> 01:35:13,830
don't know, I never heard of him
eating

1528
01:35:13,860 --> 01:35:18,660
bats. So for all of the
smartness that I heard from

1529
01:35:18,660 --> 01:35:21,300
producer Mark yesterday before
he left, he said, I don't

1530
01:35:21,300 --> 01:35:24,840
understand. I'm so worried about
Ebola. And Mark, are you? You

1531
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,300
get when's the last time you
listened to our show? Yeah, it's

1532
01:35:27,300 --> 01:35:30,390
been it's been a little while. I
said, dude, you've been you've

1533
01:35:30,390 --> 01:35:33,060
been propagandize and I
explained the whole Smith month

1534
01:35:33,060 --> 01:35:37,050
act, and he was pretty blown
away by that, of course. I said,

1535
01:35:37,170 --> 01:35:41,760
have you seen one person one?
One person bleeding from the

1536
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:45,870
eyeballs with with blisters
puking on camera? No. Have you

1537
01:35:45,870 --> 01:35:50,100
seen more than five people in in
rain slickers with ski goggles?

1538
01:35:50,130 --> 01:35:56,130
No. Where is the epidemic? All I
see is people who have at

1539
01:35:56,130 --> 01:35:59,940
getting out of ambulances on
their own power. I see a so

1540
01:35:59,940 --> 01:36:04,410
called children with Ebola
walking around and laying down

1541
01:36:04,410 --> 01:36:07,530
for the camera. It's crazy,

1542
01:36:07,650 --> 01:36:10,440
you know, the one untold story,
which is nobody's picking you up

1543
01:36:10,440 --> 01:36:16,590
on our media. But I ran into it
on on France 24. Again, is that

1544
01:36:16,590 --> 01:36:20,190
the Russians, who probably
realized that this is a

1545
01:36:20,190 --> 01:36:25,140
weaponized agent, long ago, they
have three vaccines are ready to

1546
01:36:25,140 --> 01:36:29,550
roll out. Really? I didn't know
that. Yes. Russian Ebola

1547
01:36:29,550 --> 01:36:32,130
vaccines? Or Ebola?

1548
01:36:33,060 --> 01:36:35,760
Ebola? Where's where's our Ebola
chick? Almost a second.

1549
01:36:36,299 --> 01:36:38,459
Ebola? Ebola?

1550
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:45,630
Both good questions. And at the
State Department briefing.

1551
01:36:45,630 --> 01:36:52,650
Unfortunately, it's not the Matt
and Marie show. Jen is back. Oh,

1552
01:36:52,830 --> 01:36:55,650
app. Sakis no fun. But she can.

1553
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:58,200
Yeah, I agree.

1554
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:03,090
And man and Matt also, you know,
he other guys are picking up the

1555
01:37:03,090 --> 01:37:06,240
slack now. You know, matches
pile jumping. He's not even

1556
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,900
starting stuff off. But this was
a good question that she can't

1557
01:37:09,900 --> 01:37:13,230
answer and she she got kind of
testy about it. He's lovesick?

1558
01:37:15,930 --> 01:37:19,500
Is lovesick a question about
Ebola policy. Yesterday,

1559
01:37:19,500 --> 01:37:22,320
Secretary Kerry said that the US
would like to see airlines

1560
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,510
continue to fly in and out of
the three countries in Africa

1561
01:37:24,510 --> 01:37:26,700
that have been stricken by the
virus, my borders to remain

1562
01:37:26,700 --> 01:37:30,000
open. At the same time, Dr.
Thomas Friedman, the Director of

1563
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:34,620
the CDC said that about 150
people per day are entering the

1564
01:37:34,620 --> 01:37:37,140
United States from those
countries from the policy going

1565
01:37:37,140 --> 01:37:40,020
forward is to check in when they
arrive, to see if they're

1566
01:37:40,020 --> 01:37:42,840
asymptomatic, and to question
them to see whether they'll

1567
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:45,990
admit that they had contact with
someone with Ebola. If they're

1568
01:37:45,990 --> 01:37:48,510
asymptomatic, and they didn't,
they don't see the eye contact,

1569
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,690
then there'll be allowed into
the country. And of course, mr.

1570
01:37:51,690 --> 01:37:54,810
Duncan did not admit to having
contact with a person with Ebola

1571
01:37:54,810 --> 01:37:58,680
and he was asymptomatic when he
arrived, Dr. Friedens

1572
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:01,650
explanation that policies seem
to be a sort of cost benefit

1573
01:38:01,650 --> 01:38:04,860
analysis that the American
people were getting a greater

1574
01:38:04,860 --> 01:38:08,850
benefit, both in financial terms
and also in terms of our ability

1575
01:38:08,850 --> 01:38:10,620
to fight the virus. Do you have
a question? Yeah.

1576
01:38:10,890 --> 01:38:14,310
Oh, boy, fax are annoying,
aren't they? Gen.

1577
01:38:15,660 --> 01:38:19,560
virus at its source than the
price that we might pay by

1578
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,290
letting people into this country
without going through incubation

1579
01:38:22,290 --> 01:38:25,110
period from those countries
where people are suffering from

1580
01:38:25,110 --> 01:38:27,690
Ebola? So my question for the
State Department is what?

1581
01:38:28,050 --> 01:38:29,040
Who is this idiot?

1582
01:38:29,370 --> 01:38:33,510
He's just the one of the press
corps Don't worry, it's, he's

1583
01:38:33,630 --> 01:38:37,920
his question is valid. He
saying, What good is this? If

1584
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:41,670
you have 150 people a day coming
in? I don't think there's any

1585
01:38:41,670 --> 01:38:44,280
direct flights by the way from
these countries. But okay,

1586
01:38:44,940 --> 01:38:47,640
coming in, shouldn't you just
quarantine them all? If we're

1587
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:51,330
that worried about it, if look
at all the fear, you should

1588
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:53,670
quarantine them because you
can't trust them to tell the

1589
01:38:53,670 --> 01:38:56,460
truth. If you have global entry,
you're just passing right

1590
01:38:56,460 --> 01:39:00,090
through? This is a very valid
question for those of us who

1591
01:39:00,090 --> 01:39:02,820
have been scared into believing
the bullcrap,

1592
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:06,960
when measured in terms of
American lives that might be

1593
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,320
affected by this American lives
lost or permanently altered bank

1594
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:13,890
lost or created Ebola. Is there
a point at which that cost

1595
01:39:13,890 --> 01:39:18,330
benefit analysis tips? It would
be seen as a mistake to have led

1596
01:39:18,330 --> 01:39:21,300
people to travel here without a
quarantine period? Is it is it

1597
01:39:21,300 --> 01:39:24,330
one American contracting Ebola?
Is it five? Is it 10?

1598
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:28,020
This is a very good question. So
since we're not doing

1599
01:39:28,020 --> 01:39:30,840
quarantine, we're not really
shoring everything out. But just

1600
01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:34,230
you know, scaring people by
showing you pictures of of

1601
01:39:34,290 --> 01:39:37,260
pointing a gun thermometer at
your head, okay, you're good to

1602
01:39:37,260 --> 01:39:40,470
go. Or we trust you. Because
it's not true. All of this is

1603
01:39:40,470 --> 01:39:43,770
just, it's just not true. I'm
just not believing it. He's

1604
01:39:43,770 --> 01:39:46,650
saying, Yeah, so what is it five
Americans that die because of

1605
01:39:46,650 --> 01:39:52,140
these, these policies not being
airtight? It's a valid question.

1606
01:39:52,230 --> 01:39:55,380
At what point would the policy
have to be re examined and seen

1607
01:39:55,380 --> 01:39:56,220
as improvement?

1608
01:39:56,460 --> 01:39:59,310
Well, one I think what you're
referring to in part is some of

1609
01:39:59,310 --> 01:40:01,920
the new and announcements that
were made by the White House

1610
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,620
are, are in the process of being
made about measures that are

1611
01:40:04,620 --> 01:40:09,270
being put into place to screen,
over 94% of passengers.

1612
01:40:09,330 --> 01:40:11,640
94%. That doesn't sound like
enough.

1613
01:40:12,870 --> 01:40:16,410
Arriving from Ebola affected
Western African countries, we

1614
01:40:16,410 --> 01:40:19,860
continue to take steps and
evaluate what steps that can be

1615
01:40:19,860 --> 01:40:24,060
taken to, of course, not only
protect American citizens, but

1616
01:40:24,060 --> 01:40:28,980
continue to treat, do everything
we can to address this outbreak.

1617
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:32,130
And I would also note that Dr.
Frieden has also made comments

1618
01:40:32,130 --> 01:40:34,860
that by isolating these
countries, it would make it

1619
01:40:34,860 --> 01:40:37,590
harder to help them it will
spread more there and we'd be

1620
01:40:37,590 --> 01:40:41,340
likely to be exposed more here.
So there are reasons for finding

1621
01:40:41,340 --> 01:40:42,750
ways to address

1622
01:40:43,380 --> 01:40:47,220
don't I'm gonna do I'm gonna get
me one of those. They're not

1623
01:40:47,220 --> 01:40:50,220
hazmat suits that just like
Breaking Bad you can just get

1624
01:40:50,220 --> 01:40:52,830
one of these blue. I'm just
gonna just go shopping in the

1625
01:40:52,830 --> 01:40:53,700
heb with it.

1626
01:40:55,980 --> 01:40:57,570
Yeah, I think it would be very

1627
01:40:58,110 --> 01:41:00,840
cool to see what how people
respond. Well, you know, I

1628
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:05,040
told my story before about a
person that had the mask on it

1629
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:05,820
on Southwest.

1630
01:41:06,180 --> 01:41:10,440
We fly Mickey and I are both
going to be in the suits. We're

1631
01:41:10,440 --> 01:41:12,540
just gonna fly that but what's
your problem? I'm afraid of

1632
01:41:12,540 --> 01:41:13,170
Ebola

1633
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:15,210
ield get thrown off the flight

1634
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:16,530
I don't know about that.

1635
01:41:16,590 --> 01:41:20,340
I do know about that. You will
be why because I wanted to

1636
01:41:20,340 --> 01:41:24,330
protect myself summit passenger
will some passengers will object

1637
01:41:24,330 --> 01:41:26,730
to you being on the flight like
that and you'll be thrown off

1638
01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:29,610
can what can you buy these? I'm
sure that they have them on

1639
01:41:29,610 --> 01:41:32,970
eBay. Don't think the real
hazmat suits No, no, I want the

1640
01:41:32,970 --> 01:41:34,020
fake ones that those guys

1641
01:41:34,230 --> 01:41:38,040
that's just a raincoat. Goggles,

1642
01:41:38,070 --> 01:41:42,990
maybe Amazon Prime has let me
see if I just do Ebola hazmat

1643
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:52,650
suit suit. Who knows? And yes,
DuPont large yellow tie Kim QC

1644
01:41:52,650 --> 01:41:58,050
chemical protection, coveralls.
1999 with Amazon Prime.

1645
01:41:58,530 --> 01:42:01,110
That's a steal. Get an order now
click

1646
01:42:01,860 --> 01:42:07,410
here. Here's the one you want.
This is it $215 The tie can be

1647
01:42:07,410 --> 01:42:10,710
our hazmat suit chemical
protective clothing. It's my

1648
01:42:10,710 --> 01:42:14,310
size medium I needed large
attached gloves and booties

1649
01:42:14,310 --> 01:42:16,920
zipper front closure and
removable hood. This thing looks

1650
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:20,100
dynamite and look at this. I
gotta send you this link. Okay,

1651
01:42:20,130 --> 01:42:24,660
this looks dynamite the guy has
He's holding a sign a traffic

1652
01:42:24,660 --> 01:42:29,790
sign that says slow. This is
pretty interesting. You can also

1653
01:42:29,790 --> 01:42:35,220
get it in gray this is not this
is a pretty good deal.

1654
01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:37,920
Oh I liked the guy holding the
sign that says slow

1655
01:42:37,950 --> 01:42:43,320
and you can get the three M full
facepiece reusable respirator.

1656
01:42:43,980 --> 01:42:48,090
This isn't that I'm doing this.
I am going to I'm going to try

1657
01:42:48,090 --> 01:42:50,280
it first at HEB I'm just going
to walk around

1658
01:42:52,410 --> 01:42:53,430
the farmers market

1659
01:42:55,230 --> 01:42:59,610
the fun Delta the last anatomy
they'll get the joke farmer look

1660
01:42:59,610 --> 01:43:01,860
at the pictures on the site
listed this is a dynamite

1661
01:43:01,860 --> 01:43:02,430
outfit.

1662
01:43:02,969 --> 01:43:05,549
I don't like it as much as the
ones they're using with it with

1663
01:43:05,549 --> 01:43:08,009
the underwater goggles.

1664
01:43:08,550 --> 01:43:11,190
Well that's not underwater goes
the ski goggles it's the unit

1665
01:43:11,190 --> 01:43:11,910
ski goggles

1666
01:43:11,910 --> 01:43:12,330
those

1667
01:43:13,290 --> 01:43:15,420
yeah but you want to have the
big giant this

1668
01:43:15,420 --> 01:43:16,920
is actually looks like it'd be
useful

1669
01:43:17,429 --> 01:43:20,459
might actually work well on that
note the

1670
01:43:21,419 --> 01:43:24,659
here's your problem. Here's your
problem. They have the booties

1671
01:43:24,659 --> 01:43:29,069
go. The plastic goes over the
shoe so that you walk around

1672
01:43:29,069 --> 01:43:31,229
just for a few minutes and
you're gonna wear a hole into

1673
01:43:31,229 --> 01:43:34,709
the bottom right? You got to
find something that's more like

1674
01:43:34,709 --> 01:43:36,869
the ones that you don't have to
worry about that you have boots

1675
01:43:36,869 --> 01:43:39,989
on. Oh actually you could put
the boots okay it looks like you

1676
01:43:40,019 --> 01:43:42,989
the thing is got a yeah you they
are wearing

1677
01:43:42,990 --> 01:43:46,800
Tyvek I haven't here that's the
brand I'm looking at the

1678
01:43:47,459 --> 01:43:50,189
it has got a pant leg so you can
put a shoe under it. Yeah, you

1679
01:43:50,189 --> 01:43:52,019
don't need that yellow stuff on
the foot.

1680
01:43:52,050 --> 01:43:58,920
Now check this out. US AI D has
done a crowdsource initiative.

1681
01:43:59,910 --> 01:44:02,220
Let me find the I went to

1682
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:06,030
a funding operation USA ID
because you don't have enough

1683
01:44:06,030 --> 01:44:06,690
money.

1684
01:44:07,350 --> 01:44:10,560
At Grand Challenge for
Development. Here it is us AI

1685
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,740
the Ebola virus has infected
1000s of people in West Africa.

1686
01:44:13,770 --> 01:44:16,890
The alert has been sounded by
governments of Guinea, Liberia,

1687
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:21,600
Sierra Leone, Sierra Leone, not
not the Ivory Coast. And the

1688
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:24,780
world is scrambling to respond
to curtail further suffering and

1689
01:44:24,780 --> 01:44:28,680
bring this epidemic under
control. As President Obama said

1690
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:31,200
yesterday, the United Nations
Ebola is a terrific disease,

1691
01:44:31,530 --> 01:44:36,090
blah, blah, blah. In response to
this challenge, every day in

1692
01:44:36,090 --> 01:44:39,090
hot, humid, extremely difficult
environments. Healthcare workers

1693
01:44:39,090 --> 01:44:41,670
and Ebola affected countries are
performing critical tasks that

1694
01:44:41,670 --> 01:44:44,520
save lives and prevent the
spread of the virus. Personal

1695
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:48,450
Protective Equipment, which is
known as PPE, offers critical

1696
01:44:48,450 --> 01:44:51,270
protection but also is the
greatest source of discomfort

1697
01:44:51,270 --> 01:44:55,260
and stress for the workers.
While PPE is protect health care

1698
01:44:55,260 --> 01:44:57,840
workers, they cannot be worn for
more than 40 minutes in hot

1699
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:01,560
climates, severely limiting the
Time healthcare workers can care

1700
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,110
for their patients in response
to this challenge, and the

1701
01:45:04,110 --> 01:45:08,520
unprecedented Ebola outbreak
really, USA ID is partnering

1702
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:11,490
with the White House Office of
Science and Technology, the

1703
01:45:11,490 --> 01:45:14,670
Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention other US agencies and

1704
01:45:14,670 --> 01:45:18,990
the government of Sweden to lock
them maybe it's Tyvek from

1705
01:45:18,990 --> 01:45:23,310
Sweden, no budget is no it's
from DuPont and the government

1706
01:45:23,310 --> 01:45:27,120
of Sweden to launch fighting
Ebola a Grand Challenge for

1707
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:30,810
Development to help help health
care workers on the frontlines,

1708
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:35,010
provide better care and stop the
spread of Ebola. And they're

1709
01:45:35,010 --> 01:45:38,310
asking it to come up with a
better hazmat suits and the

1710
01:45:38,310 --> 01:45:45,600
prize is $1 million HMM
INTERESTING. That's

1711
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,190
what this is all about from the
get go.

1712
01:45:47,250 --> 01:45:54,210
Why Sweden though? Why Sweden?
Why would the government of

1713
01:45:54,210 --> 01:46:01,440
Sweden care say that
interesting? And there's

1714
01:46:01,440 --> 01:46:04,320
guidelines kind of interesting
those guidelines for the

1715
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:11,310
challenge here and we can see if
we can participate Okay, Baba.

1716
01:46:14,340 --> 01:46:17,280
Know this is just a guy you
can't be a you can't be an

1717
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:23,640
employee. Okay. It's like a
contest. A strange, but I think

1718
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:25,680
one of these hazmat suits I
think that's that's I think

1719
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:28,050
that's the deal. Mickey has one
What am I talking about? She's

1720
01:46:28,050 --> 01:46:28,920
got a blue one.

1721
01:46:29,250 --> 01:46:32,880
What is it for where she get it?
What's going on over there?

1722
01:46:33,870 --> 01:46:37,290
We're in we're in Austin. She
has what she uses for prefer a

1723
01:46:37,290 --> 01:46:41,940
spray painting project. Yes, I
can use hers guys paint all over

1724
01:46:41,940 --> 01:46:45,570
it. No, it's and it's blue. Oh,
this is great. I am so going to

1725
01:46:45,570 --> 01:46:51,180
try this at the heb let's see
how people respond. Just driving

1726
01:46:51,180 --> 01:46:58,710
around just going to the drive
thru at the bank. Hey I want to

1727
01:46:58,710 --> 01:46:59,490
deposit a check

1728
01:47:02,340 --> 01:47:11,010
nobody thinks you're crackpot
enough. Okay. Anyway, I get this

1729
01:47:11,010 --> 01:47:14,790
breaking sir. I want you to tell
me what the deal is. A nurse. A

1730
01:47:14,790 --> 01:47:15,180
nurse has

1731
01:47:15,180 --> 01:47:16,950
just contracted Ebola in Dallas.

1732
01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:20,580
Oh, breaking news is that right?

1733
01:47:20,820 --> 01:47:23,640
That's what I just want the CNN
is saying to me right now. I'm

1734
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:24,150
afraid

1735
01:47:24,570 --> 01:47:27,570
they didn't get it. Where are
those uniforms for ISIS

1736
01:47:27,570 --> 01:47:30,570
terrorists arrested in Texas and
last 36 hours?

1737
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:34,440
Oh no. i How could I have missed
this? Oh, what were they

1738
01:47:34,440 --> 01:47:36,780
doing your show watch Islamic
terrorists have entered the

1739
01:47:36,780 --> 01:47:39,210
United States or the Mexican
border and Homeland Security

1740
01:47:39,210 --> 01:47:42,780
Sources tell Judicial Watch that
four have been apprehended in

1741
01:47:42,780 --> 01:47:46,020
the last 36 hours by federal
authorities and the Texas

1742
01:47:46,020 --> 01:47:49,680
Department of Public Safety in
McAllen and and far

1743
01:47:49,710 --> 01:47:53,610
this is good caliphate.
Excellent. We are rocking the

1744
01:47:53,610 --> 01:47:56,130
caliphate in Texas everybody
Nice.

1745
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:04,080
Soldiers officials said they had
picked up radio talk and chatter

1746
01:48:04,740 --> 01:48:07,500
indicating that the terrorist
groups are trying to carry out

1747
01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:09,630
an attack on the border.

1748
01:48:10,380 --> 01:48:12,990
I got a tweet from someone who
says you know you guys just make

1749
01:48:12,990 --> 01:48:15,840
fun of all this. But you wait,
you wait until ISIS is here. You

1750
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,390
wait to be talking. You wait
until you

1751
01:48:19,650 --> 01:48:24,900
have the show. Apparently, and
he believes a crap and you play

1752
01:48:24,900 --> 01:48:29,670
down a bola. Will you just wait
now Okay, I'll wait. more chance

1753
01:48:29,670 --> 01:48:32,820
of being killed just driving to
the store before I'd have to

1754
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:34,110
even put my suit on.

1755
01:48:36,750 --> 01:48:41,010
Just wait, just wait. Those ISIS
guys are coming over. Although

1756
01:48:41,010 --> 01:48:45,240
the big push now is to take ISIS
off the table and run this phony

1757
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:46,920
baloney chorus and group.

1758
01:48:47,340 --> 01:48:51,060
Do you see this really happening
this? That seems to be more and

1759
01:48:51,060 --> 01:48:52,590
more of a push towards that?
Which is?

1760
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:56,250
Yeah, they wanted to do they do
what they want to do an event in

1761
01:48:56,250 --> 01:49:00,450
the United States, our
government probably Who else

1762
01:49:00,660 --> 01:49:03,240
wants to do an event and they're
gonna blame it on somebody and

1763
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:05,880
they and the way things are
going they don't want to blame

1764
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:10,380
it on ISIS, or ISIL. Right? So
they have to find somebody to

1765
01:49:10,380 --> 01:49:13,680
blame it on. They got the
horrors, the horizontal core

1766
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:18,900
horizontal operation has all
these elements where they say,

1767
01:49:18,900 --> 01:49:22,620
Well, they've already got a plan
in place is there we've known

1768
01:49:22,620 --> 01:49:25,890
fact, and all these things. So
something's going to happen and

1769
01:49:25,890 --> 01:49:30,480
it's going to be blamed on these
guys, but not ISIL because for

1770
01:49:30,480 --> 01:49:33,660
some reason we want ISIL to keep
doing what it's doing, I think

1771
01:49:33,690 --> 01:49:36,360
which has probably something to
do with the overthrow of Assad.

1772
01:49:37,140 --> 01:49:40,470
Well, that's I think that's
that's the overall analysis is

1773
01:49:40,470 --> 01:49:44,940
that has to happen. But now we
know we've had the the the F 20

1774
01:49:44,940 --> 01:49:49,410
twos were striking Syria because
we saw all kinds of cool footage

1775
01:49:49,410 --> 01:49:52,980
of it of the planes not really
doing anything. It's just a it's

1776
01:49:52,980 --> 01:49:57,120
just a stock footage. Did you
see what we sold to Saudi Arabia

1777
01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:58,590
and United Arab Emirates

1778
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:01,920
another beauty With wholesale to
sales

1779
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:05,550
actually I have it here we have
number one when you do this you

1780
01:50:05,550 --> 01:50:10,680
have to apply for a permit you
can't just here it is the it's

1781
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:17,610
the arms export control act
$1.25 billion and that includes

1782
01:50:17,610 --> 01:50:22,710
a $500 million of other I love
that so this has guided enhance

1783
01:50:22,710 --> 01:50:26,910
missile Patriot to flight test
target Patriot as target also

1784
01:50:26,910 --> 01:50:31,500
included pack three telemetry
kits, Patriot automated

1785
01:50:31,500 --> 01:50:35,010
logistics systems what are you
gonna do with this? So that's

1786
01:50:35,010 --> 01:50:39,780
1.7 5 billion and then which is
what a lot of this is about this

1787
01:50:40,020 --> 01:50:44,460
which I thought I think I saw I
didn't get a clip Panetta said

1788
01:50:44,460 --> 01:50:47,100
somewhere that this look this
will be a 30 year war against

1789
01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:52,110
ISIS. Yeah, and here is to the
unary years

1790
01:50:52,110 --> 01:50:55,710
of more arms sales to the
boneheads in the Middle East

1791
01:50:55,740 --> 01:50:58,980
here's the United Arab Emirates
which it knows that Dubai and

1792
01:50:58,980 --> 01:51:00,330
those guys are they in yes

1793
01:51:00,330 --> 01:51:05,340
Dubai. There's a bunch of them
Dubai his domain was his bad

1794
01:51:05,340 --> 01:51:09,930
chat who always is scouring the
Federal Register for us. Let's

1795
01:51:09,930 --> 01:51:13,380
see transmittal 14 for notice of
proposed issuance Here we go.

1796
01:51:13,620 --> 01:51:17,550
High Mobility Artillery
Artillery Rocket systems

1797
01:51:17,580 --> 01:51:26,850
launchers How much is this for?
This is for $900 million. Man as

1798
01:51:26,850 --> 01:51:31,320
cheap could have made a million
at this is 400 million of this

1799
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:36,000
is great. It's 900 Total 400
million is for major defense

1800
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:46,380
equipment. And 500 million the
majority is for other other is

1801
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:51,660
and that's a so what do we have
there? We have almost $3 billion

1802
01:51:52,110 --> 01:51:58,110
of sales could work everybody
which is yeah, this is what a

1803
01:51:58,110 --> 01:51:59,400
lot of what this is about.

1804
01:52:00,900 --> 01:52:06,090
Mmm hmm. So I will get shot this
piece. I think this was 25

1805
01:52:06,090 --> 01:52:09,870
minutes while you're watching
that this week. This the clip

1806
01:52:09,870 --> 01:52:12,360
Kurdish anger now this is you're
talking about them blowing up

1807
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:14,520
that little city up at the top
of

1808
01:52:14,550 --> 01:52:18,060
Barney which is just a reason to
draw turkey into it.

1809
01:52:18,509 --> 01:52:21,209
Well or something but one thing
they're doing if you listen to

1810
01:52:21,209 --> 01:52:23,909
these guys, they're they're
turning they're trying to make

1811
01:52:23,939 --> 01:52:28,019
the Kurds. The Kurds are like
part of the big piece of this

1812
01:52:28,019 --> 01:52:30,869
puzzle. I think they're trying
to get down here. We've already

1813
01:52:30,869 --> 01:52:32,669
discussed this because of the
oil by the

1814
01:52:32,670 --> 01:52:37,260
way, who is big friends with the
Kurds? Fatah patella Gulin

1815
01:52:38,340 --> 01:52:42,000
Oh, interesting. Let me play
this and we get clarities.

1816
01:52:43,980 --> 01:52:46,290
He's the secretary of

1817
01:52:47,340 --> 01:52:51,420
state supports the extremist
Islamists by giving them weapons

1818
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:55,110
to the Turkish state think you
can get rid of the Kurds. But

1819
01:52:55,110 --> 01:52:58,110
they'll never defeat us just
because this what they think of

1820
01:52:58,110 --> 01:53:01,590
us the Kurds they've destroyed
this town. What isn't this a

1821
01:53:01,860 --> 01:53:03,150
shady because the

1822
01:53:04,380 --> 01:53:07,650
helicopters keep watch from
above. On the ground armored

1823
01:53:07,650 --> 01:53:10,980
personnel carriers patrol the
streets for much of the week.

1824
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:14,670
The security Crackdown is aimed
at putting a lid on the unrest

1825
01:53:15,330 --> 01:53:18,750
in response to the Kurdish
population has changed tack the

1826
01:53:18,750 --> 01:53:21,900
protests now smaller and more
mobile to avoid major

1827
01:53:21,900 --> 01:53:26,400
confrontation. Here is
nightfalls. A raucous din rings

1828
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:30,540
out the Kurdish anger that's
close to boiling over.

1829
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:33,660
What's your take on this?

1830
01:53:33,660 --> 01:53:37,050
God is they've got it set up. So
the Kurds are blaming the Turks

1831
01:53:37,050 --> 01:53:37,830
for everything?

1832
01:53:37,860 --> 01:53:39,990
Uh huh. There's the golden
connection.

1833
01:53:40,290 --> 01:53:42,870
Yeah. It's gonna be interesting
to see how this plays out.

1834
01:53:42,870 --> 01:53:46,650
Because we're not getting that
sort of perspective in this

1835
01:53:46,650 --> 01:53:48,960
country. I know. And I don't
know how many Europeans are but

1836
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:53,130
just the French is they they're
the ones that did this report.

1837
01:53:53,130 --> 01:53:55,500
But I thought that was kind of
interesting.

1838
01:53:55,530 --> 01:54:00,420
I'm thinking that. So the way I
see a Kobani is the idea is to

1839
01:54:00,450 --> 01:54:03,240
draw the Turks in the Turks
don't want to do this. And

1840
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:05,730
they're in NATO countries. And
then you get Article Five and

1841
01:54:05,730 --> 01:54:08,130
all this stuff, and then a whole
bunch of other things get

1842
01:54:08,130 --> 01:54:11,880
triggered. And you know, this is
on it's been on the verge of

1843
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:16,290
falling for what, two weeks now.
And it's just not happening

1844
01:54:16,290 --> 01:54:18,720
because the Turks are just not
taking the bait and they're not

1845
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:21,720
jumping in to go do something
because once you do that, I

1846
01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:27,540
think once they take up arms
against the what is happening, I

1847
01:54:27,540 --> 01:54:32,040
think that's when all hell
breaks loose. That's the What

1848
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:34,200
else could it be make? Well,
besides that there's a pipeline

1849
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:38,730
running right through it, which
is minor minor. Remind everyone

1850
01:54:38,730 --> 01:54:43,260
on CNN, this town has no
strategic importance at all.

1851
01:54:43,559 --> 01:54:46,139
But we've checked we've taken a
couple of runs at the Turks we

1852
01:54:46,139 --> 01:54:48,989
did you know at that park, that
there's all the protest and that

1853
01:54:48,989 --> 01:54:52,259
looks like that was gonna work
and that didn't work. And now I

1854
01:54:52,259 --> 01:54:56,129
think that we've given up on
doing any internal stuff because

1855
01:54:56,129 --> 01:55:00,119
we don't have the skill set for
the Turks specifically or Are

1856
01:55:00,119 --> 01:55:03,179
things aren't that bad that
people really are upset like we

1857
01:55:03,179 --> 01:55:06,899
could get the Ukrainians to do
our bidding to we can't do it

1858
01:55:06,899 --> 01:55:10,529
the Turks so now I think we've
turned it over the Kurds in just

1859
01:55:10,529 --> 01:55:13,619
inciting them let them go in
there we'll give them weapons.

1860
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:16,350
This would make sense at this
very moment we have this

1861
01:55:16,350 --> 01:55:17,940
documentary coming out

1862
01:55:19,980 --> 01:55:22,590
right the good dude yeah, that
blow job documentary

1863
01:55:22,620 --> 01:55:25,590
hagiography I think is what you
would call it but blow job

1864
01:55:25,590 --> 01:55:27,030
documentary works for me.

1865
01:55:27,180 --> 01:55:30,840
That's what using the media, the
news business sheet that's what

1866
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:34,770
it's called? A BJ doc. It's
gonna be you know, if an article

1867
01:55:34,770 --> 01:55:37,230
is written that's just a puff
piece about somebody as commonly

1868
01:55:37,230 --> 01:55:39,450
referred to in the business as a
blow job.

1869
01:55:39,780 --> 01:55:44,430
Here on CNN and watching we have
helicopters flying over the TED

1870
01:55:44,430 --> 01:55:51,690
the live flying over the
hospital in Dallas. And this the

1871
01:55:51,690 --> 01:55:55,950
lower third is containing the
first Ebola outbreak. And

1872
01:55:55,950 --> 01:55:58,980
because this nurse has Ebola,
Mickey, if you're listening,

1873
01:55:58,980 --> 01:56:01,530
because you please put on your
suit and I can take a picture

1874
01:56:01,530 --> 01:56:04,560
and when just tweeted that, you
know, don't worry, friends and

1875
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:13,170
family. We're safe. This is
insane. People are just being

1876
01:56:13,170 --> 01:56:16,950
made crazy. This is the number
one thing that's making people

1877
01:56:16,950 --> 01:56:17,760
crazy now.

1878
01:56:19,050 --> 01:56:23,520
Yeah, yeah. Hear about it.
Ebola.

1879
01:56:25,980 --> 01:56:30,990
The Snowden documentary was
screened in New York. This I

1880
01:56:30,990 --> 01:56:32,460
don't know anything about this
at all.

1881
01:56:32,550 --> 01:56:36,180
Yes, citizen for it. I have a
little trailer if you want it.

1882
01:56:36,210 --> 01:56:39,120
This is the Laura Poitras
documentary, and I do want to

1883
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:43,740
discuss some of it. The main
thing is this documentary was

1884
01:56:43,740 --> 01:56:46,350
made a two hour documentary,
which I think is too long for

1885
01:56:46,380 --> 01:56:48,570
any documentary. Certainly,

1886
01:56:49,020 --> 01:56:50,820
no longer than 90 minutes.

1887
01:56:51,299 --> 01:56:55,259
Right. And his girlfriend is
apparently living with him now.

1888
01:56:55,289 --> 01:56:55,709
Yes, the

1889
01:56:55,710 --> 01:56:59,460
story is that she's the stripper
girlfriend pole dancer who was

1890
01:56:59,460 --> 01:57:01,440
kind of left out of the picture.

1891
01:57:01,469 --> 01:57:03,029
No one ever went to find her.

1892
01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:06,600
Nobody decided to interview her
because it wasn't part of the

1893
01:57:06,630 --> 01:57:10,950
the friends or her family or
parents are living in Malibu or

1894
01:57:10,950 --> 01:57:15,120
something. And then she was
blue. She was reassigned Moscow

1895
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:19,260
by whoever's her handler and now
she went and they're

1896
01:57:19,260 --> 01:57:23,070
living in so all of the shots
all the PR shots I'll call them

1897
01:57:23,070 --> 01:57:27,540
Snowden is wearing his glasses
with the missing nose pad. We

1898
01:57:27,540 --> 01:57:35,190
know that when he's been he's
being looked at candidly he

1899
01:57:35,190 --> 01:57:37,560
doesn't know where his glasses
when he's out in Moscow and

1900
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:41,370
someone gets a shot of him. It's
always without his glasses. This

1901
01:57:41,370 --> 01:57:45,180
is brand Snowden that he is
propagating. And here is the bit

1902
01:57:45,180 --> 01:57:49,650
of the trailer from the movie.
Very cyber at

1903
01:57:51,810 --> 01:57:56,100
this stage, I can offer nothing
more than my word. I'm a senior

1904
01:57:56,100 --> 01:57:59,730
government employee in the
intelligence community. I hope

1905
01:57:59,730 --> 01:58:04,290
you understand that contacting
you with extremely high risk for

1906
01:58:04,290 --> 01:58:08,700
now know that everybody cross
every purchase you make, every

1907
01:58:08,700 --> 01:58:12,600
call you dial, every cell phone
tower you pass friend you keep

1908
01:58:12,930 --> 01:58:16,680
site you visit and subject when
you type is in the hands of a

1909
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:22,800
system whose reaches unlimited.
If you publish the source

1910
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:27,240
material, I will likely be
immediately implicated. I ask

1911
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:30,030
only that you ensure this
information makes it home to the

1912
01:58:30,030 --> 01:58:34,470
American public. And be careful
citizen for

1913
01:58:34,590 --> 01:58:41,100
submission for. Okay, I work for

1914
01:58:43,110 --> 01:58:47,310
this is the first meeting with
Greg Greenwald and Poitras in

1915
01:58:47,310 --> 01:58:55,110
Hong Kong. This music is drama,
ma'am. Is drama, come on. Drama,

1916
01:58:55,980 --> 01:58:59,910
unlimited, but who safeguards
are not. In the end, if you

1917
01:58:59,910 --> 01:59:02,370
publish the source material, I
will likely be immediately

1918
01:59:02,370 --> 01:59:07,260
implicated. I ask only that you
ensure this information makes it

1919
01:59:07,260 --> 01:59:11,010
home to the American public.
Thank you and be careful.

1920
01:59:11,430 --> 01:59:22,650
Citizen for anything about you.
Okay. I work for Sorry. Hi. My

1921
01:59:22,650 --> 01:59:28,170
name is Edward Snowden. I go
ahead. Edward Joseph Snowden is

1922
01:59:28,170 --> 01:59:28,860
the full name

1923
01:59:34,500 --> 01:59:35,460
you're ruining.

1924
01:59:36,870 --> 01:59:37,980
That's not possible.

1925
01:59:39,660 --> 01:59:43,950
Very interesting. This movie now
this was bankrolled sounds

1926
01:59:44,010 --> 01:59:48,150
horrible bankrolled by my
Participant Media, which is of

1927
01:59:48,150 --> 01:59:53,970
course Jeff Skoll S K O L L. To
be discussed in a moment.

1928
01:59:54,420 --> 02:00:01,500
Executive producers. Two of them
are the big kahuna is at HBO And

1929
02:00:01,500 --> 02:00:05,130
then there's Steven Soderbergh
who Oh brother. Why do you say

1930
02:00:05,130 --> 02:00:09,180
this? Because why? He's a hack.
Explain.

1931
02:00:09,929 --> 02:00:12,599
I'm just saying Look at what
he's done. He does propaganda

1932
02:00:12,599 --> 02:00:16,109
films when he does anything
outside of the actual fiction of

1933
02:00:16,109 --> 02:00:18,359
us look at what he's done and
then even with fiction I think

1934
02:00:18,359 --> 02:00:20,519
he did probably just propaganda.
Well, let's

1935
02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:23,760
take a look into his your that's
your quite an accusation there.

1936
02:00:24,299 --> 02:00:26,399
Well, maybe I'm wrong. Let's
take a look.

1937
02:00:26,459 --> 02:00:28,769
Let's take a look. And the way
we look is

1938
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:39,390
so the first thing he did was a
full length concert for the

1939
02:00:39,390 --> 02:00:44,220
band. Yes. Okay, films such as
Kafka king of the hill, the

1940
02:00:44,220 --> 02:00:47,550
underneath Grey's Anatomy, sex
lies and videotape tape, or Erin

1941
02:00:47,550 --> 02:00:52,740
Brockovich. Yeah, traffic. What
else then? where's the where's

1942
02:00:52,740 --> 02:00:53,370
the hack?

1943
02:00:54,810 --> 02:00:55,920
Erin Brockovich,

1944
02:00:55,950 --> 02:01:04,020
that was a that would I agree
with that? The more interesting

1945
02:01:04,020 --> 02:01:08,910
name that I found on this
executive producer list was

1946
02:01:10,020 --> 02:01:14,430
Tom epic thriller Contagion.
Another one. Oh, yeah. Tom

1947
02:01:14,430 --> 02:01:17,700
Quinn, and the Hunger Games.

1948
02:01:18,389 --> 02:01:23,429
Is that also Soderbergh? Yeah.
Yeah, he's propagandists. I like

1949
02:01:23,429 --> 02:01:31,349
Tom Quinn, because Tom Quinn is
really known for all of the

1950
02:01:32,579 --> 02:01:37,709
little video vignettes that they
play on the Oscars for the

1951
02:01:37,709 --> 02:01:43,949
nominees. But if you look at his
credits, it's the Oscar

1952
02:01:43,949 --> 02:01:47,129
nominated short films, animation
Oscar nominated short films

1953
02:01:47,129 --> 02:01:50,489
documentary, Oscar nominated
short films, live action, Oscar

1954
02:01:50,489 --> 02:01:54,149
nominated short films animation.
So it's very smart to have the

1955
02:01:54,179 --> 02:01:57,719
guy who puts together the
packages for the nominees for

1956
02:01:57,719 --> 02:02:03,419
the Academy Awards to be one of
the executive producers. I think

1957
02:02:03,419 --> 02:02:07,409
that's that way if you get a
nominee, a nomination and then

1958
02:02:07,409 --> 02:02:11,219
he might, he might spice it up a
bit. Make it look better.

1959
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:15,630
Works with Clooney a lot and
Matt Damon.

1960
02:02:16,950 --> 02:02:21,840
So the here's my question to
you, Jeff skull. Why does he get

1961
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:28,590
such a pass in this? Whereas,
well, we have been vilifying

1962
02:02:28,980 --> 02:02:31,410
Pierre omnicar. drive my car.

1963
02:02:31,950 --> 02:02:33,210
No, you mostly

1964
02:02:34,650 --> 02:02:41,310
and I believe rightly so. As he
spelled skull. S co l es como es

1965
02:02:41,310 --> 02:02:45,210
que es como es call es que K O L
L he.

1966
02:02:47,220 --> 02:02:50,010
He word we need to put them on
our list of guys to vilify? Yes,

1967
02:02:50,010 --> 02:02:53,940
because he was an eBay. We lived
in Woodside For God's sake, eBay

1968
02:02:53,940 --> 02:02:57,990
and PayPal. So he is he is
partners with other guy media.

1969
02:02:57,990 --> 02:03:02,040
Yes. And a lot of his money is
still tied up in eBay slash

1970
02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:07,770
PayPal. And so he's, you know,
he should also be on the

1971
02:03:07,770 --> 02:03:13,440
chopping block for the WikiLeaks
shut down of PayPal. But He now

1972
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:17,460
gets to be Mr. Hero. And he of
course, also the Al Gore's

1973
02:03:17,460 --> 02:03:21,000
Inconvenient Truth and all these
other great movies, which if you

1974
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:23,430
guys are getting some kind of
free pass where I think he's,

1975
02:03:24,780 --> 02:03:27,870
you know, I know it's brought us
but he's, he's a low profile.

1976
02:03:27,870 --> 02:03:30,630
That's the reason I believe. I
mean, you have these other you

1977
02:03:30,630 --> 02:03:35,730
have the Elon Musk Peter Thiel,
this guy and whole mudhar to

1978
02:03:35,730 --> 02:03:38,010
this four guys that came out of
that thing. And they're all

1979
02:03:38,010 --> 02:03:40,560
going in different directions,
doing their own thing in some

1980
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:41,400
way, shape or form.

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But this is very close to
immediately because Poitras

1982
02:03:44,190 --> 02:03:47,370
works for a media and he's
falling financing the portrait

1983
02:03:47,370 --> 02:03:52,380
movie. I find the whole thing to
be.

1984
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:56,070
He has the runs the Skoll
Foundation, which he gave me

1985
02:03:56,070 --> 02:03:59,550
became a billionaire because of
eBay. So he gave it all to

1986
02:03:59,550 --> 02:04:02,250
himself in the Skoll Foundation
as though it's like some sort of

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02:04:02,250 --> 02:04:07,170
a donation, foundation support
social entrepreneurship,

1988
02:04:07,410 --> 02:04:10,620
sculptures to foundation and
today makes grants in excess of

1989
02:04:10,620 --> 02:04:14,520
80 million per year the Skoll
Foundation. Also Ron rank is the

1990
02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:18,120
largest foundation for social
entrepreneurship in the world.

1991
02:04:19,860 --> 02:04:24,150
Five 30 million to the Alliance
for Climate Protection campaign,

1992
02:04:24,150 --> 02:04:29,550
so he's a climate guy. Or that
group. He,

1993
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:33,810
he did did Inconvenient Truth.
He's a big climate guy. Yeah.

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02:04:34,980 --> 02:04:38,220
Producers Guild of American
Visionary Award. He won that in

1995
02:04:38,220 --> 02:04:41,760
2009. Time magazine. He got the
100 people of the year 2006

1996
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:45,900
Wired Magazine rave award,
National Leadership Award for

1997
02:04:45,900 --> 02:04:48,630
the Commonwealth Club and
Silicon Valley. The outstanding

1998
02:04:48,630 --> 02:04:52,080
fillet is escaping wins a lot of
awards. Yeah, its goal is to

1999
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:54,900
convey Bucha music is a lot of
money away. skull was the

2000
02:04:54,900 --> 02:04:57,810
commencement speaker and just
awarded the Honorary Doctor of

2001
02:04:57,810 --> 02:05:01,830
Law degrees from the University
of Toronto. What's the best you

2002
02:05:01,830 --> 02:05:02,460
can do there?

2003
02:05:03,390 --> 02:05:05,010
Well, when I look at Brands, no,
I

2004
02:05:05,010 --> 02:05:06,720
mean, yes, the Gandy project.

2005
02:05:06,840 --> 02:05:10,350
When I look at Brands Snowden,
who showed up on yet another,

2006
02:05:10,950 --> 02:05:14,550
you know, some conference and it
this is like, does anyone have

2007
02:05:14,550 --> 02:05:19,440
any new ideas? It's like, oh,
and now we have Ed Snowden via

2008
02:05:19,440 --> 02:05:26,460
Google Hangout from Moscow and
he's there saying you should use

2009
02:05:26,760 --> 02:05:29,970
Blackboard you should really use
red circle he's telling us all

2010
02:05:29,970 --> 02:05:33,540
these products we should be
using. I don't think he

2011
02:05:33,540 --> 02:05:36,360
shouldn't be telling us what to
use at all. I think he should be

2012
02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:37,860
telling us not to use anything.

2013
02:05:38,250 --> 02:05:39,420
Yeah, that would be better.

2014
02:05:40,830 --> 02:05:43,620
No, I just got a something
foreign global intelligence

2015
02:05:43,620 --> 02:05:48,330
networking on this almost like
maybe BBB BBB BBB on me see,

2016
02:05:48,330 --> 02:05:55,560
what do we have? We have he
copied the message. In the email

2017
02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:58,080
from the movie Star Wars. Here's
the relevant clip

2018
02:06:03,690 --> 02:06:07,470
what I have to look into it
seems that what the message that

2019
02:06:07,470 --> 02:06:09,300
Snowden sent to portress was

2020
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:12,270
helped me Wan Kenobi.

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02:06:13,770 --> 02:06:20,670
You Yes. Look, I gotta look into
that. I love stuff like that. I

2022
02:06:20,670 --> 02:06:23,640
just don't like the brand
Snowden anymore. It just it

2023
02:06:23,640 --> 02:06:26,190
doesn't feel good. Oh, was

2024
02:06:26,190 --> 02:06:32,220
influenced by authors such as
Anne Rand. And now the one Yeah.

2025
02:06:32,970 --> 02:06:40,980
II intended to becoming by iron
Rand. He intended to become an

2026
02:06:40,980 --> 02:06:44,910
author writing motivational
books on tackling the world's

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02:06:44,910 --> 02:06:47,970
problems. So he was always in
that mode where he has money is

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02:06:47,970 --> 02:06:48,570
dangerous.

2029
02:06:50,940 --> 02:06:53,670
Then where's our Skoll
Foundation? Grant?

2030
02:06:53,969 --> 02:06:58,439
Well, we're kind of the anti
Skoll Foundation grants. What we

2031
02:06:58,439 --> 02:07:03,149
need is like all in on all this
stuff is worth the 3.8 billion.

2032
02:07:04,769 --> 02:07:08,279
I have a funny, same dead eyes
looked at it all these other

2033
02:07:08,279 --> 02:07:08,999
guys have.

2034
02:07:11,460 --> 02:07:15,570
I have I have a funny carry
climate denier clip? If you want

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02:07:15,570 --> 02:07:16,140
to hear that.

2036
02:07:16,740 --> 02:07:20,730
Yeah, why not? It's a good one,
though. They're always good. If

2037
02:07:20,730 --> 02:07:21,570
it comes from carry.

2038
02:07:21,810 --> 02:07:27,540
I just say to all of you here
that. People need to feel the

2039
02:07:27,540 --> 02:07:30,540
pressure from you. You don't
know what politics is about?

2040
02:07:30,630 --> 02:07:35,190
This is a big climate
conference. I'm not in it now.

2041
02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:39,600
But I'm What do you mean, you're
not in it? I'm not in politics

2042
02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:42,300
is what I guess what he's trying
to say, all right, watermelon

2043
02:07:42,330 --> 02:07:46,710
dependent on it, to help make
the right decisions, so that we

2044
02:07:46,710 --> 02:07:51,000
move in the right direction. A
clean energy future is not a

2045
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:55,470
fantasy. Changing course and
avoiding the worst impacts of

2046
02:07:55,470 --> 02:07:59,610
climate change is not a fantasy,
and supporting healthier

2047
02:07:59,610 --> 02:08:03,150
communities and ecosystems and
driving economic growth and job

2048
02:08:03,150 --> 02:08:08,880
creation. None of that is a
fantasy. And for those people

2049
02:08:08,880 --> 02:08:13,230
who still stand in the way, for
those people who even still

2050
02:08:13,230 --> 02:08:16,140
today want to try to question
whether or not their science is

2051
02:08:16,140 --> 02:08:17,460
effective or not. I

2052
02:08:19,260 --> 02:08:22,860
just want to say, for in case
people wondered this program,

2053
02:08:23,010 --> 02:08:24,630
powered by science,

2054
02:08:25,380 --> 02:08:34,770
just ask you ask a simple
question. If we're wrong about

2055
02:08:34,770 --> 02:08:37,470
this future, what's the worst
that could happen as for making

2056
02:08:37,470 --> 02:08:38,220
these choices?

2057
02:08:40,260 --> 02:08:46,080
If he's wrong? What's the worst
that could happen? For making

2058
02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:46,950
these choices?

2059
02:08:49,890 --> 02:08:53,400
Will you waste a lot of money?
bamboozle a lot of people

2060
02:08:53,610 --> 02:08:57,120
disturb probably people that are
already unstable. There's a lot

2061
02:08:57,120 --> 02:08:58,050
that could go wrong.

2062
02:08:59,100 --> 02:09:02,760
could happen to us as we create
a whole lot of new jobs and kick

2063
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:06,570
our economies. We have healthier
people healthier children

2064
02:09:06,570 --> 02:09:10,140
because we have cleaner air. We
live up to our environmental

2065
02:09:10,140 --> 02:09:14,100
responsibility. We become truly
energy independent, and our

2066
02:09:14,100 --> 02:09:17,250
security is stronger and greater
and sustainable as a result.

2067
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:18,660
I'm Darren I'm in

2068
02:09:19,050 --> 02:09:22,170
you know when he talks about his
holdings about carbon dioxide

2069
02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:26,580
that really doesn't. The air
quality is not is not hurt by

2070
02:09:26,580 --> 02:09:27,750
carbon dioxide,

2071
02:09:27,810 --> 02:09:31,860
carbon pollution. John, you're
not saying it right, by the way.

2072
02:09:31,860 --> 02:09:36,270
So I'm flying in from Los
Angeles. And there is I'm

2073
02:09:36,270 --> 02:09:38,760
looking down to Salt Flats. I
don't see any evidence of this

2074
02:09:38,760 --> 02:09:41,700
rising tide I'm looking at
today. There's a mud flats

2075
02:09:41,700 --> 02:09:44,520
around here. They're the same
mud flats I saw 30 years ago.

2076
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:47,010
They don't see any evidence of
anything else going on.

2077
02:09:47,610 --> 02:09:49,860
As far as I'm concerned, you
have no water you I mean, are

2078
02:09:49,860 --> 02:09:52,230
you drinking your own urine
there in California at this

2079
02:09:52,230 --> 02:09:52,500
point,

2080
02:09:52,530 --> 02:09:56,280
there's water, which is not much
of it. It's not as bad as it was

2081
02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:59,580
some years and years ago when
they had to run a pipeline

2082
02:09:59,580 --> 02:10:02,610
across sand refill bridge. And
when they did

2083
02:10:02,610 --> 02:10:05,130
that again, I think they just
did that and then just open that

2084
02:10:05,130 --> 02:10:05,730
up again.

2085
02:10:05,880 --> 02:10:08,490
No, there's no pipeline there
just drove across the thing the

2086
02:10:08,490 --> 02:10:11,250
other day. While you're on the
subject of these,

2087
02:10:11,700 --> 02:10:16,230
I want you hohoho Don't you want
to hear what happens if the

2088
02:10:16,230 --> 02:10:19,140
climate deniers are wrong? Oh, I

2089
02:10:19,140 --> 02:10:21,090
thought he was done. Now.

2090
02:10:21,420 --> 02:10:24,990
If all right, the pro climate
lay it out

2091
02:10:26,070 --> 02:10:31,920
that's the worst that happens to
us. What happens if they're

2092
02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:32,400
wrong?

2093
02:10:34,380 --> 02:10:37,110
What happens if they're wrong
John? What's gonna happen? What

2094
02:10:37,110 --> 02:10:40,320
do you think will happen? If
they are if the climate deniers

2095
02:10:40,350 --> 02:10:44,220
are climate changing? manmade
climate change change deniers

2096
02:10:44,220 --> 02:10:45,180
are wrong

2097
02:10:45,300 --> 02:10:47,790
then what what do you think?

2098
02:10:48,210 --> 02:10:51,720
Oh, we're all doomed if they're
wrong

2099
02:10:53,370 --> 02:11:00,330
catastrophe life as you know
what on earth and oh man

2100
02:11:08,130 --> 02:11:12,390
life as you know what on earth
and I think we need to accompany

2101
02:11:12,390 --> 02:11:14,970
in John on let's do a little
accompaniment here. Okay, I'm

2102
02:11:14,970 --> 02:11:16,050
now getting ready right?

2103
02:11:17,910 --> 02:11:24,030
Catastrophe life as you know
what on earth and seven degrees

2104
02:11:24,030 --> 02:11:29,460
increase? Fahrenheit and we
can't sustain crops water life

2105
02:11:29,790 --> 02:11:30,840
under those circumstances.

2106
02:11:30,870 --> 02:11:36,960
No life. No life. We're gonna
die. When people die,

2107
02:11:37,410 --> 02:11:38,760
we're all gonna die.

2108
02:11:39,450 --> 02:11:45,930
Let me ask a question here. Hey,
if we're wrong does life stop as

2109
02:11:45,930 --> 02:11:52,800
we know it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we
all gonna die. Yeah, yeah. I

2110
02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:56,130
love that guy. He's my favorite
guy in the world. I'm gonna show

2111
02:11:56,130 --> 02:11:56,310
my

2112
02:11:56,310 --> 02:11:59,850
son moved by Jonah to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could

2113
02:11:59,850 --> 02:12:01,620
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

2114
02:12:09,930 --> 02:12:13,800
you able to thank for show 660
And we're like to play that

2115
02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:17,580
jingle apparently more than
once. Samuel Butterick

2116
02:12:17,970 --> 02:12:22,230
Butterick. That's a very famous
name. That's the name. They do

2117
02:12:22,230 --> 02:12:25,350
look up Butterick and Wikipedia
sites, they just a very famous

2118
02:12:25,350 --> 02:12:29,520
name. Anyway, he's in
Deutschland in grammars, Burg

2119
02:12:29,520 --> 02:12:33,660
and one in $33.33. And he's just
as a

2120
02:12:33,690 --> 02:12:37,680
combination, Ebenezer Butterick.
And the Butterick publishing

2121
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:38,640
company. Yeah, the

2122
02:12:38,640 --> 02:12:42,480
Butterick publishers 70s. They
make patterns or something?

2123
02:12:42,510 --> 02:12:48,330
Ebeneezer 77 and 78 from Andrew
Smallman. That actually should

2124
02:12:48,330 --> 02:12:53,040
add up to $21 $200.01 Oh, ICS
combining two so he should have

2125
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:56,220
gotten an Associate Executive.
We'll put him we'll give him an

2126
02:12:56,220 --> 02:12:58,260
Associate Executive Producer for
660

2127
02:12:58,350 --> 02:13:00,870
I think I think that was
actually a note that Eric sent

2128
02:13:00,870 --> 02:13:04,320
let me just see. Oh, yeah, yeah,
yeah,

2129
02:13:04,530 --> 02:13:08,310
sorry, Samuel, but it was kind
of convoluted. Yeah. And then we

2130
02:13:08,310 --> 02:13:11,220
got a birthday call out I got to
read this. I guess. This may

2131
02:13:11,220 --> 02:13:13,920
mean he's just artsy and hetero
flexible or it could be that as

2132
02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:16,920
beautiful hands long lady
fingers not well suited a

2133
02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:20,640
shaking brown people with a gay
bar produced beautiful art. What

2134
02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:23,610
are we talking about in your
idea? Okay, last two times, my

2135
02:13:23,610 --> 02:13:25,980
brother donated you got all
excited about his gorgeous

2136
02:13:25,980 --> 02:13:29,730
Archie's artsy signature and and
right, that was me. Yeah. Today

2137
02:13:29,730 --> 02:13:31,920
his birthday. So I appreciate
you saying more nice things

2138
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:34,350
about him despite the fact that
Tom's an engineer and a Marine

2139
02:13:34,650 --> 02:13:37,380
is in fact a grift gifted
artist. That's why he probably

2140
02:13:37,380 --> 02:13:41,340
has a nice hand. You may mean he
just started seeing retro Feck

2141
02:13:41,340 --> 02:13:44,550
flexible beautiful hands bah
blah blah. He's also the best

2142
02:13:44,550 --> 02:13:48,870
scumbag, artsy engineered
brother a man could wish for and

2143
02:13:48,870 --> 02:13:51,870
it wouldn't be half as much fun
listen to agenda if I couldn't

2144
02:13:51,870 --> 02:13:58,140
talk to him about it afterwards.
Tom but t om b not a typo I love

2145
02:13:58,140 --> 02:14:01,890
you. Please give Tom the
following clip threesome? The

2146
02:14:01,890 --> 02:14:05,610
Ebola it's nasty disgusting, et
cetera followed by Shut up

2147
02:14:05,610 --> 02:14:08,460
already had science. And to top
it off with a tutor they had

2148
02:14:08,460 --> 02:14:12,060
karma quick note to the regular
donors. Our grand dukes. And

2149
02:14:12,090 --> 02:14:15,720
Eric does shield thank you all
for your courage without y'all.

2150
02:14:16,200 --> 02:14:20,220
Of this German. Without y'all
there'd be a bit there'd be a

2151
02:14:20,220 --> 02:14:23,100
lot of very sad douchebags out
there. Keep up the good work.

2152
02:14:23,100 --> 02:14:27,120
Cheers, Sam do Deutsch bag
Butterick

2153
02:14:27,150 --> 02:14:30,960
it is scary and wretched and
miserable. It is gross Jenner

2154
02:14:30,960 --> 02:14:35,400
braided science. Jennifer. Dr.
Keith

2155
02:14:41,100 --> 02:14:46,350
you've got karma. Dr. Kiki kids
is right above Dr. Kiki sorry.

2156
02:14:47,280 --> 02:14:53,700
Is good or better. Already.
Science pretty good. Speaker

2157
02:14:54,720 --> 02:14:58,710
Elizabeth Visser in Winnipeg,
Manitoba. 12345. We got a

2158
02:14:58,710 --> 02:15:01,860
birthday call it coming up for
us. And men are 12345 and

2159
02:15:01,860 --> 02:15:05,940
boxhill. Sounds Victoria numbers
right there when he got three of

2160
02:15:05,940 --> 02:15:09,060
them. And Mark Pugna from
Schaumburg, Illinois comes in

2161
02:15:09,060 --> 02:15:18,480
with 12345 That guy Rick Olson
Ellensburg Washington $100

2162
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:22,590
Thanks for all you do. Ajay
Kumar and Beverly Massachusett

2163
02:15:22,590 --> 02:15:27,450
not say I sent a note in whereas
Jai Kumar doesn't really say

2164
02:15:27,450 --> 02:15:32,490
much sending along another
donation because I put some

2165
02:15:32,490 --> 02:15:35,850
halfway to go okay, it's gonna
be half the half night. Thanks

2166
02:15:35,850 --> 02:15:38,310
for cranking out the best
podcast in the universe. Gotta

2167
02:15:38,310 --> 02:15:42,360
love a show that cracks me up
and pisses off business me off

2168
02:15:42,360 --> 02:15:51,690
at the same time. Okay. The
999944 Sander Hawksbill Oh

2169
02:15:51,690 --> 02:15:58,710
Sandra hawks Berg Barragan in
Zaandam, huh nein nein nein nein

2170
02:15:58,710 --> 02:16:03,990
from the hub. So Russell
Williams in Boise, Boise, Idaho

2171
02:16:03,990 --> 02:16:09,000
parents, Baron Sondra boys Baron
son Sander still without a

2172
02:16:09,000 --> 02:16:11,880
protector and he says he can't
choose. Oh yeah, Baron. Oh,

2173
02:16:11,880 --> 02:16:16,860
yeah, Baron Sunder. Yep. Sir
Russell Williams in Boise,

2174
02:16:16,860 --> 02:16:25,830
Idaho. He's got to have cancer.
Bucky had a cantaloupe size mass

2175
02:16:25,830 --> 02:16:30,510
remove six pounds, six pound dog
and thankfully it proved to be

2176
02:16:30,510 --> 02:16:35,580
benign. Nein nein Nein. Why
because I'm just emptying the

2177
02:16:35,580 --> 02:16:37,920
Pay Pal account as the ad so
yeah, we should remind people

2178
02:16:37,920 --> 02:16:40,650
you gotta Pay Pal account with
some money just lingering in

2179
02:16:40,650 --> 02:16:43,170
there. Yeah, you can empty it
towards us.

2180
02:16:43,320 --> 02:16:47,520
Don't profit of the interest go
to the sculpture bronies.

2181
02:16:49,440 --> 02:16:54,570
Deborah Smallman in Milford
Michigan 7777 got a birthday

2182
02:16:54,570 --> 02:16:58,710
thing there. Oh, this is where
the other money casts that I

2183
02:16:58,710 --> 02:17:01,170
would like to wish Thomas
Butterick a happy birthday.

2184
02:17:01,170 --> 02:17:04,320
Okay, go. complicating things
here with the split donations

2185
02:17:04,320 --> 02:17:09,540
herb lamb 7777. Sugar here,
sugar. No. Sugar Hill gang Hill,

2186
02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:14,820
Georgia. Sir Dennis Nutting in
high Hilo, Hawaii and he sent a

2187
02:17:14,820 --> 02:17:18,180
long note well not really just a
bunch of accounting and some

2188
02:17:18,180 --> 02:17:22,140
photos. He sent me a picture of
the HELOC currently Hilo airport

2189
02:17:22,350 --> 02:17:25,470
because I talked about this yes
you did he just have a beautiful

2190
02:17:25,500 --> 02:17:29,670
outdoor baggage claim placed
into place with the airport was

2191
02:17:29,670 --> 02:17:33,690
quaint because it was be kind of
an old but well maintained place

2192
02:17:33,690 --> 02:17:38,490
like Long Beach now it's another
it looks like our Lando horrible

2193
02:17:38,610 --> 02:17:45,300
and that's what I think needs
some job karma and he has some

2194
02:17:45,540 --> 02:17:47,400
now give him some reason night.
Okay.

2195
02:17:50,340 --> 02:17:54,420
I have to open up the the karma
bucket jobs,

2196
02:17:54,570 --> 02:17:58,770
jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.

2197
02:18:01,740 --> 02:18:06,540
Alright, right out that field,
but now I feel undepressed Well,

2198
02:18:06,540 --> 02:18:08,760
I haven't been at Hilo for years
forever. But it's a it's a

2199
02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:12,930
cockroach. By the way. That's
the big island as the big giant

2200
02:18:13,290 --> 02:18:17,190
island of Hawaii. And it is
cockroach infested. Oh, that's

2201
02:18:17,190 --> 02:18:20,820
no good. But in fact, we rented
a car and the car was filled

2202
02:18:20,820 --> 02:18:24,390
with cockroaches. And so when we
got out of the car to check the

2203
02:18:24,390 --> 02:18:26,520
car, and I tell you, you know,
we took all their stuff out and

2204
02:18:26,520 --> 02:18:31,080
driving around. I said, Mimi,
you better dump your purse out

2205
02:18:31,080 --> 02:18:34,470
because Yeah, no doubt. Don't
worry about it. I said no, you

2206
02:18:34,470 --> 02:18:36,540
better dump it out. Eventually.
There's cockroaches in there and

2207
02:18:36,540 --> 02:18:38,880
she dumps her purse out about 30
Cockroaches ran out.

2208
02:18:38,910 --> 02:18:41,910
Is that Is that an actual
impersonation of her? Because

2209
02:18:41,910 --> 02:18:42,090
that's a

2210
02:18:42,600 --> 02:18:45,900
nice thing, man. I mean, we I
mean, what is the best I can do?

2211
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:51,330
I can't do women's voices that
well. Yeah, so for this one. I

2212
02:18:51,330 --> 02:18:55,740
certainly Mickey Mouse when I do
that voice. Where was I sent?

2213
02:18:55,860 --> 02:19:01,080
Hartsburg in Boise, Alison
hatch. Alison Hatchin wall, the

2214
02:19:01,080 --> 02:19:06,960
four Waldorf as in Statler and
Waldorf, Maryland $75 Brian

2215
02:19:06,960 --> 02:19:14,970
Williams 73 7370. He comes in
commonly. Okay, there's a go and

2216
02:19:14,970 --> 02:19:17,160
Debashish Duta

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02:19:18,240 --> 02:19:20,580
de bas shish doo dum. De Bosch
is Duda.

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02:19:21,449 --> 02:19:27,059
Bosch is Duta in Mason, Ohio.
66. Adam Ward 55 Double nickels

2219
02:19:27,059 --> 02:19:34,229
on the diamond Derbyshire UK.
Michael Slazenger in MATCOM

2220
02:19:35,909 --> 02:19:41,279
Michigan 5510 And the last of
these are $50 donations. And

2221
02:19:41,279 --> 02:19:46,649
we'll read them off one at a
time Andrew Dawson and one team

2222
02:19:46,649 --> 02:19:50,669
on South Victoria Australia and
I really liked in fact the

2223
02:19:50,669 --> 02:19:51,869
Australians are stepping says

2224
02:19:51,870 --> 02:19:54,600
he's been listening for about
four years don't have a job but

2225
02:19:54,600 --> 02:19:58,290
for my 33 asked for donations so
I can tell you always his

2226
02:19:58,290 --> 02:20:01,320
birthday through his 33rd
birthday. I want to contribute

2227
02:20:01,320 --> 02:20:04,800
to some general and job karma
and a birthday call out. Yeah,

2228
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:06,870
we'll do that in a moment for
the 12 that is today is his

2229
02:20:06,870 --> 02:20:07,620
birthday so

2230
02:20:09,090 --> 02:20:15,390
Morris consulting loss of wages
Nevada $50 Paul groves in lunga

2231
02:20:15,390 --> 02:20:20,190
Radha Victoria, another
Australian deputy Yakko Yaqoob

2232
02:20:20,250 --> 02:20:26,160
watch shack in North Vancouver
BC I think I got that close and

2233
02:20:26,160 --> 02:20:30,300
Tonio McMullen. $50 Parts
Unknown Paul Vela and Milton

2234
02:20:30,300 --> 02:20:36,240
Keynes UK 50 always count on on
Paul. Sir Mark Tanner. And is he

2235
02:20:36,240 --> 02:20:40,260
Sir Paul Vela? I think so. Yeah,
Sir Mark Tanner, Whittier,

2236
02:20:40,290 --> 02:20:47,040
California and finally Jason.
The luzio in Gaddis, furred

2237
02:20:47,040 --> 02:20:49,920
Pennsylvania, I want to thank
these folks and everybody who,

2238
02:20:50,610 --> 02:20:51,150
for those

2239
02:20:51,570 --> 02:20:53,850
folks, I wanted to I wanted to
read

2240
02:20:54,090 --> 02:20:57,540
one little email and also thank
everyone who contributed to

2241
02:20:58,110 --> 02:21:03,000
lesser lesser amounts in the I
just

2242
02:21:03,480 --> 02:21:06,900
got an email from Neil. He says,
For what it's worth, I'm now on

2243
02:21:06,900 --> 02:21:10,380
the $5 a month program, it is
truly about the least I could

2244
02:21:10,380 --> 02:21:14,310
do. I think he means the best he
could do. But okay. Of course, I

2245
02:21:14,310 --> 02:21:16,890
wanted to make some grand
gesture and dreamed of the day

2246
02:21:16,890 --> 02:21:19,080
where I could be an instant
night or at least Associate

2247
02:21:19,080 --> 02:21:22,170
Executive Producer. Have you
read my clever note on the show

2248
02:21:22,170 --> 02:21:25,560
and play seven jingles. However,
it slowly dawned on me that

2249
02:21:25,560 --> 02:21:29,550
those are the things I want, not
the things that you need. I've

2250
02:21:29,550 --> 02:21:32,700
been listening since about
episode 81. It was trivial to go

2251
02:21:32,700 --> 02:21:36,600
back and listen to the archives
and have yet to give a dime I am

2252
02:21:36,600 --> 02:21:39,930
ashamed of that value for value.
Even though I'm not sure at this

2253
02:21:39,930 --> 02:21:42,270
point, I could ever adequately
compensate the both of you for

2254
02:21:42,270 --> 02:21:45,150
all the value you've given me
using that as an excuse to never

2255
02:21:45,150 --> 02:21:47,550
donate seems really stupid.
Thank you for your courage, but

2256
02:21:47,550 --> 02:21:52,530
more importantly, thank you for
my courage. And we do that's

2257
02:21:52,530 --> 02:21:57,120
what a lot of $5 donors, it's
all of it is really highly

2258
02:21:57,120 --> 02:21:57,870
appreciated.

2259
02:21:57,900 --> 02:22:02,460
But let me read one note too,
which is from Chris Perry. And

2260
02:22:02,460 --> 02:22:05,460
this was a he I don't know what
happened to this donation but it

2261
02:22:05,460 --> 02:22:07,920
came through he thinks
anonymously was two and $1 So

2262
02:22:07,920 --> 02:22:12,750
he's a Associate Executive
Producer for show 659 He He says

2263
02:22:12,750 --> 02:22:16,200
he edited a short note about
comedy to get somewhere else

2264
02:22:16,200 --> 02:22:20,910
find a job in California I
believe I think it was do I wish

2265
02:22:20,910 --> 02:22:24,990
duped retro actively however, as
I was terminated from my job

2266
02:22:25,020 --> 02:22:28,290
yesterday afternoon, I was
thrown under the bus by my

2267
02:22:28,290 --> 02:22:32,250
boss's boss to appease a noisy
client and my boss decided that

2268
02:22:32,250 --> 02:22:35,310
he couldn't justify having me
work there. The funny part is I

2269
02:22:35,310 --> 02:22:39,750
was a SIS admin engineer but the
work they they terminated me for

2270
02:22:39,750 --> 02:22:43,380
was entirely not related to
systems administration. Sorry I

2271
02:22:43,380 --> 02:22:46,050
had to read take care don't let
the drought in California Texas

2272
02:22:46,050 --> 02:22:47,970
choke you Chris

2273
02:22:48,780 --> 02:22:51,750
I'm still dying from Fukushima
so you know I don't know Yeah,

2274
02:22:51,750 --> 02:22:52,470
we'll add

2275
02:22:52,470 --> 02:22:54,930
him to the job karma at the end
here that we're gonna get to

2276
02:22:55,830 --> 02:22:56,700
Fukushima

2277
02:22:59,310 --> 02:23:01,980
you're worried about Ebola? No,
man, I'm almost dead from

2278
02:23:01,980 --> 02:23:03,960
Fukushima radiation. Why would
I?

2279
02:23:04,500 --> 02:23:07,530
Why would a radioactive trash is
hitting the shores

2280
02:23:07,620 --> 02:23:10,080
everybody thank you very much
for your consideration for the

2281
02:23:10,080 --> 02:23:13,830
value for value model that makes
this program continue on for

2282
02:23:13,860 --> 02:23:18,090
almost seven years. The 26th of
October is our big seven so you

2283
02:23:18,090 --> 02:23:20,640
could send us a sack of sevens
you can send us triple sixes for

2284
02:23:20,640 --> 02:23:24,540
the six things six show on the
way and we continue to deliver

2285
02:23:24,540 --> 02:23:26,820
the karma when you asked for it
and hopefully it worked in go

2286
02:23:26,820 --> 02:23:30,450
boom check. Jobs, jobs, jobs and

2287
02:23:30,450 --> 02:23:32,670
jobs for jobs.

2288
02:23:38,940 --> 02:23:44,220
And for our Thursday show please
go to vora.org/and

2289
02:23:44,310 --> 02:23:44,730
A.

2290
02:23:52,440 --> 02:23:55,860
Listener says Happy Birthday
Happy 35th to her smokin hot

2291
02:23:55,890 --> 02:24:00,120
deal. husband Patrick. send
pictures. Samuel Butterick and

2292
02:24:00,120 --> 02:24:02,820
Deborah Smallman say happy
birthday to Thomas Butterick.

2293
02:24:02,820 --> 02:24:07,260
celebrating today. Stephen Iger,
how to ease his fiancee Sue is

2294
02:24:07,260 --> 02:24:10,380
also celebrating her birthday
today Sir David Foley and Grand

2295
02:24:10,380 --> 02:24:14,280
Duke of the USA will be
celebrating his 49th tomorrow as

2296
02:24:14,280 --> 02:24:17,610
well. Sir Thomas Nussbaum and
Alison hatched Andrew Dawson say

2297
02:24:17,610 --> 02:24:22,680
happy birthday to Joe hatch from
Detroit turning 35 on the 14th.

2298
02:24:24,360 --> 02:24:28,770
Lauren says Happy Birthday to
her hubby Rich will be 33 on the

2299
02:24:28,770 --> 02:24:31,920
14th and we say happy birthday
to everybody hear from the best

2300
02:24:31,920 --> 02:24:40,200
podcast in the universe. So we
have Sir Thomas Nussbaum, who is

2301
02:24:40,200 --> 02:24:44,880
going to be the Baron of the
Hampton Roads. We have Sir Mark

2302
02:24:44,880 --> 02:24:49,860
workman who becomes a Baronet
and you said he could is that he

2303
02:24:49,890 --> 02:24:51,810
had are we giving him his
protector? Is that what he's

2304
02:24:51,810 --> 02:24:52,410
getting? Might

2305
02:24:52,410 --> 02:24:53,640
as well as you in advance.

2306
02:24:53,640 --> 02:24:56,070
I mean, he's gonna put it in
here and he's and you it was the

2307
02:24:56,070 --> 02:24:57,390
Baronet of

2308
02:24:57,870 --> 02:25:01,680
golf. Golf golf. Yeah, gold
gold.

2309
02:25:01,710 --> 02:25:05,400
I don't know if he has to battle
with somebody I thought that was

2310
02:25:05,400 --> 02:25:06,120
given away.

2311
02:25:06,270 --> 02:25:11,190
I don't know if somebody said we
have a dispute. We'll resolve it

2312
02:25:11,220 --> 02:25:13,680
in the peerage committee meets
once a month

2313
02:25:13,710 --> 02:25:20,550
under arbitration. Yes. And then
we have a black knighting this

2314
02:25:20,550 --> 02:25:23,580
does not happen often, but we
thanked him profusely for his

2315
02:25:23,700 --> 02:25:28,650
contributions on Thursday show
and somehow he did tend to not

2316
02:25:28,650 --> 02:25:33,060
show up in in the knighting. And
now he becomes a black knight

2317
02:25:33,060 --> 02:25:36,510
Sir H M F, I see that had MoPhO
in charge, he thought it was

2318
02:25:36,510 --> 02:25:40,440
quite appropriate that he will
become a black knights since he

2319
02:25:40,470 --> 02:25:43,890
was the one you'll recall,
burned his entire face and hands

2320
02:25:43,890 --> 02:25:49,650
and, and was cured. Apparently
within within weeks, and so

2321
02:25:49,650 --> 02:25:53,370
we're very, very happy for him
so and he has a special request

2322
02:25:53,370 --> 02:25:55,830
for what he wants present at the
round table, which I've written

2323
02:25:55,830 --> 02:26:00,870
down. So just grab our blades
here and we'll ask you hmm, I

2324
02:26:00,870 --> 02:26:03,270
see had Morpho in charge, please
step down. Sir. You

2325
02:26:03,990 --> 02:26:07,020
are welcome to the round table
of the Knights name.

2326
02:26:07,050 --> 02:26:09,720
And you are a black knight. So
you've got the black armor and

2327
02:26:09,720 --> 02:26:14,100
we hereby pronounce the SIR
Akena by seeing black knight of

2328
02:26:14,100 --> 02:26:19,320
us may. And we have for you.
hookers and blow red boys and

2329
02:26:19,320 --> 02:26:22,320
Sharda today and the West
whiskey and wet wipes and as you

2330
02:26:22,320 --> 02:26:26,430
requested, heartless and how
long Oh, yeah. Along with your

2331
02:26:26,430 --> 02:26:29,130
wenches and beer Botkin Villa
bong hits and bourbon, sparkling

2332
02:26:29,130 --> 02:26:32,730
cider escorts, and of course,
the button and meet and go to no

2333
02:26:32,730 --> 02:26:37,170
agenda nation.com/rings and pick
up your ring. And thank you very

2334
02:26:37,170 --> 02:26:40,860
much for your courage for your
consideration for your value for

2335
02:26:40,860 --> 02:26:45,000
our value. And and just for
being a night and for being

2336
02:26:45,000 --> 02:26:48,180
patient. It is highly indeed,

2337
02:26:48,210 --> 02:26:51,360
we were planning talking about
all the Pay Pal billionaires

2338
02:26:51,360 --> 02:26:55,620
that came out of that operation.
I've got this clip of a from

2339
02:26:56,280 --> 02:27:00,240
France 24 where they have
they've talking to a Tesla guy,

2340
02:27:00,510 --> 02:27:02,280
and I thought you'd be
interested in hearing this.

2341
02:27:03,300 --> 02:27:08,160
Okay, hold on a second. Yes, the
clip doesn't actually say Tesla

2342
02:27:08,160 --> 02:27:09,360
guy, interestingly enough,

2343
02:27:09,480 --> 02:27:13,440
a full range of increasingly
affordable electric sports cars.

2344
02:27:13,440 --> 02:27:17,130
Today I'm joined by John Gillan,
Vice President of Worldwide

2345
02:27:17,130 --> 02:27:19,620
sales and services. Thank you so
much for joining us today. Thank

2346
02:27:19,620 --> 02:27:20,730
you for joining us. Thank you.

2347
02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:28,590
Thank you for joining. I am part
of the Tesla board. Yes, thank

2348
02:27:28,590 --> 02:27:33,360
you for joining us. I love it's
good to have you here. Yes. It's

2349
02:27:33,360 --> 02:27:35,910
good to be here to have you
here. Good to have you here. Be

2350
02:27:35,910 --> 02:27:40,050
here. Well, thank you both. Oh,
yes. Thank you for having us.

2351
02:27:40,050 --> 02:27:43,980
Good. Thank you. It's good. Good
to have you here. What? And what

2352
02:27:43,980 --> 02:27:45,750
was the it was about their new
D?

2353
02:27:45,810 --> 02:27:49,080
Their nods I don't know what to
who cares. I think it was about

2354
02:27:49,080 --> 02:27:52,110
their batteries. Whatever the
case they do have a clip I want

2355
02:27:52,110 --> 02:27:56,430
to play which is the I heard
this I don't normally don't

2356
02:27:56,430 --> 02:28:00,960
listen to that show on RT that
has the financial guy.

2357
02:28:03,660 --> 02:28:04,860
Max Max Keiser

2358
02:28:04,920 --> 02:28:08,250
Excellent. Good. Oh, Max. And
but this one. So I got I've got

2359
02:28:08,250 --> 02:28:11,640
this clip on the Scottish poll,
Texas this Sunday. So I looked

2360
02:28:11,640 --> 02:28:15,240
it up everything they say in
this clip is accurate. And it's

2361
02:28:15,240 --> 02:28:17,670
I should have sent you the link
for the show notes. But they

2362
02:28:17,880 --> 02:28:21,000
apparently they're looking, you
know, they made everyone in

2363
02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:23,190
Scotland vote on the web,
they're going to be independent,

2364
02:28:23,190 --> 02:28:25,620
and now they're going to ding
him for the back taxes.

2365
02:28:25,650 --> 02:28:27,570
Reality is trading at a
discount.

2366
02:28:27,720 --> 02:28:32,970
Now, of course, we came close to
a bloodless revolution here in

2367
02:28:32,970 --> 02:28:35,760
the United Kingdom with a
Scottish referendum. And of

2368
02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:39,450
course, they chose to stay
dependent on the United Kingdom

2369
02:28:39,450 --> 02:28:44,250
on Westminster. Anyway, poll tax
returns from dead to haunt

2370
02:28:44,370 --> 02:28:49,080
Scottish politics. So all those
people who registered to vote

2371
02:28:49,080 --> 02:28:53,760
all those new registers to vote
in Scotland, put their name on

2372
02:28:53,760 --> 02:28:58,260
the poll registers, record
amounts, something like 92% of

2373
02:28:58,260 --> 02:29:02,400
the population that could vote
chose to vote. And what are the

2374
02:29:02,700 --> 02:29:05,340
what is Westminster? What are
the what is the political elite

2375
02:29:05,340 --> 02:29:09,480
doing for even daring to suggest
that could be changed for daring

2376
02:29:09,510 --> 02:29:15,120
those 45% of the population that
had the courage to want change?

2377
02:29:15,300 --> 02:29:19,890
Well, they're threatening to
bring back their fines of 450

2378
02:29:19,890 --> 02:29:22,740
million pounds worth of unpaid
poll tax from the Margaret

2379
02:29:22,740 --> 02:29:27,780
Thatcher era and 8990 and 91 up
in Scotland. Well, that's what

2380
02:29:27,780 --> 02:29:28,980
they're being they're being
threatened

2381
02:29:29,550 --> 02:29:32,430
as retribution. Yeah, for having
the temerity to want

2382
02:29:32,460 --> 02:29:36,090
independence. They're not gonna
give them more devolution power.

2383
02:29:36,300 --> 02:29:38,760
They're not gonna give them any
nothing. They're gonna take more

2384
02:29:38,790 --> 02:29:41,310
because they dare to stand up to
the Queen. They're gonna get

2385
02:29:41,340 --> 02:29:44,280
raked over the coals. You just
like Smithfield markets, going

2386
02:29:44,280 --> 02:29:47,430
back hundreds of years, wherever
they the king was giving into

2387
02:29:47,430 --> 02:29:50,190
the peasants revolt, and they
met with a king and he killed

2388
02:29:50,190 --> 02:29:50,610
them all.

2389
02:29:50,640 --> 02:29:54,870
Well, that's Smithfield market
is where William Wallace was.

2390
02:29:55,260 --> 02:29:59,460
First he was gutted. He was
disassembled and then his legs

2391
02:29:59,460 --> 02:30:03,360
and arms torn apart. And then he
was hung and his head put on a

2392
02:30:03,360 --> 02:30:06,360
pike. So there you have it.
That's what's happened to them.

2393
02:30:06,480 --> 02:30:09,240
This is what this is what
happens when you fail to have

2394
02:30:09,270 --> 02:30:09,990
enough courage

2395
02:30:12,360 --> 02:30:13,200
to tell a story.

2396
02:30:13,770 --> 02:30:19,620
I'm just looking at CNN. And now
the lower third is first time

2397
02:30:19,650 --> 02:30:23,160
Ebola transmitted in the United
States. And I cannot have the

2398
02:30:23,160 --> 02:30:25,710
sound of it. I can see the the
woman who's who's reading the

2399
02:30:25,710 --> 02:30:29,130
prompter. And she has like this,
the sad look in her eyes, like

2400
02:30:29,160 --> 02:30:29,670
ah

2401
02:30:32,550 --> 02:30:38,520
Ebola, or Ebola, the theme song,
the song Ebola,

2402
02:30:38,580 --> 02:30:41,430
we have it. I just didn't want
it. You didn't have any? I

2403
02:30:41,430 --> 02:30:44,490
didn't want to overdo it. And we
certainly have it or we got the

2404
02:30:44,520 --> 02:30:52,050
Ebola. No, we have the Ebola
Ricola. We've got that. In Euro

2405
02:30:52,050 --> 02:30:57,300
land, similar news to this, the
Catalan independence referendum

2406
02:30:57,300 --> 02:31:02,400
is coming up, I believe, at the
end of this month. Yeah. Now

2407
02:31:02,400 --> 02:31:05,970
this is not officially
sanctioned by the government is

2408
02:31:06,269 --> 02:31:12,059
kind of a protest. It's a Yeah,
it's a created situation. That

2409
02:31:12,119 --> 02:31:15,719
is not it's not like the one in
Scotland word supposedly would

2410
02:31:15,719 --> 02:31:17,339
have actually taken place. Well,
FC

2411
02:31:17,340 --> 02:31:20,850
Barcelona has now saw that they
could get thrown out of the

2412
02:31:20,850 --> 02:31:24,390
league for this but they all
signed supporting the Catalan

2413
02:31:24,390 --> 02:31:28,140
independence. Which is that's a
big deal when when the soccer

2414
02:31:28,140 --> 02:31:34,560
team says yeah, we should. And
now I just read this today,

2415
02:31:34,830 --> 02:31:39,120
Catalan independence can include
Valencia. And how do you

2416
02:31:39,120 --> 02:31:43,170
pronounce the bill Eric's this
island. So that's Ibiza and all

2417
02:31:43,170 --> 02:31:46,440
those islands and, and
Formentera and all those

2418
02:31:46,440 --> 02:31:51,180
beautiful islands there. And
they want to include those in

2419
02:31:51,180 --> 02:31:58,500
their independent katalon state
I guess good. What am I How will

2420
02:31:58,500 --> 02:32:03,930
this work? It won't. But
everyone votes? Yes. It's kind

2421
02:32:03,930 --> 02:32:05,220
of like Crimea, isn't it?

2422
02:32:06,900 --> 02:32:10,860
Well, yeah, but who to who comes
running in? I mean, the Crimea

2423
02:32:10,860 --> 02:32:13,230
thing. Yeah. Okay, they're all
gonna vote yes. And the

2424
02:32:13,230 --> 02:32:13,650
Russians,

2425
02:32:14,310 --> 02:32:17,850
the Russians, is Vladimir. Hey,
everybody, we're ready for it.

2426
02:32:17,850 --> 02:32:23,250
Come on. Vladimir partying in
Ibiza.

2427
02:32:24,660 --> 02:32:29,280
It go for that? Shit. I'd go for
it. You were just there recently

2428
02:32:29,280 --> 02:32:33,480
where? You know, didn't you go
there recently? No, I thought

2429
02:32:33,480 --> 02:32:34,410
you were gonna go there

2430
02:32:36,270 --> 02:32:39,120
was somebody and we talked about
it, but there was there is no

2431
02:32:39,120 --> 02:32:43,020
place that you can get decent in
good connection. Everybody had?

2432
02:32:43,140 --> 02:32:48,420
Yes, we have internet. We have
three G. That's not gonna work.

2433
02:32:49,500 --> 02:32:53,130
That's interesting. The
President weighed in on net

2434
02:32:53,130 --> 02:32:57,000
neutrality. And I saw a clip
with some analysis from chunk

2435
02:32:57,270 --> 02:33:02,490
over there at the young at the
Young Turks show. And if you

2436
02:33:02,490 --> 02:33:07,500
look at the chunk, chunk show on
YouTube, they have to see now he

2437
02:33:07,500 --> 02:33:13,830
does a Squarespace commercial
before the the actual bit, and

2438
02:33:13,830 --> 02:33:15,270
it's sad.

2439
02:33:16,290 --> 02:33:17,970
I think there must be bleeding
money, who

2440
02:33:17,970 --> 02:33:20,370
can make a website for me and I
was like, I'm not gonna do a

2441
02:33:20,370 --> 02:33:22,500
chunk, make your own. And then
he goes to Squarespace. It's

2442
02:33:22,500 --> 02:33:26,100
like, oh, I made a good website.
Okay, thank you internet. It's

2443
02:33:26,100 --> 02:33:31,920
stupid. And they played this
clip of the president on net

2444
02:33:31,920 --> 02:33:35,040
neutrality. i We need to pull
this apart for a number of

2445
02:33:35,040 --> 02:33:39,030
reasons. And I would say number
one is because we're getting

2446
02:33:39,030 --> 02:33:43,200
very close to some decision
making here by the FCC. And I

2447
02:33:43,200 --> 02:33:47,580
also received another email and
it was almost as if, holy moly.

2448
02:33:47,610 --> 02:33:52,680
We predicted it. This is the FFT
F people. Tiff, it's Tiffany

2449
02:33:52,680 --> 02:33:57,810
from FFT f the fight for the
future of the of the technology

2450
02:33:57,810 --> 02:34:00,210
future, whatever it is, what's
his outfit called?

2451
02:34:00,270 --> 02:34:03,720
Yeah, I can't remember. It's
some dumb operation. Yeah, but

2452
02:34:03,720 --> 02:34:05,670
it's funded, you know, it's
funded,

2453
02:34:05,790 --> 02:34:11,010
like us funded. It was the good.
And what is it all about? Oh,

2454
02:34:11,010 --> 02:34:11,670
mouse.

2455
02:34:12,720 --> 02:34:13,800
I you have a mouse.

2456
02:34:14,429 --> 02:34:17,339
Yeah, a mouse that, you know,
the kind of mouse are hooked to

2457
02:34:17,339 --> 02:34:19,379
the computer that never catch
on?

2458
02:34:20,189 --> 02:34:23,639
was out of my mouth. Hey, so as
you start to over email, hey,

2459
02:34:24,390 --> 02:34:27,810
hey. Just wanted to make future.
Yeah.

2460
02:34:28,110 --> 02:34:30,510
Just want to make sure you saw
this email. There's good news.

2461
02:34:31,380 --> 02:34:34,920
Thanks in part to the response
we helped generate. The FCC has

2462
02:34:34,920 --> 02:34:38,760
extended the deadline to receive
comments about the Comcast

2463
02:34:38,790 --> 02:34:44,460
attempted internet takeover. Now
it's Comcast attempted internet

2464
02:34:44,460 --> 02:34:46,800
takeover until October 29.

2465
02:34:47,100 --> 02:34:50,010
I didn't know that Comcast is
attempting to take over the

2466
02:34:50,010 --> 02:34:50,640
internet.

2467
02:34:51,150 --> 02:34:54,510
There are just a few days left
to stop Comcast from taking over

2468
02:34:54,510 --> 02:34:58,440
Time Warner Cable and signing a
death sentence for net

2469
02:34:58,440 --> 02:35:02,070
neutrality. Click here to take
action now, which is a donate

2470
02:35:02,070 --> 02:35:02,340
button.

2471
02:35:02,370 --> 02:35:04,680
Yeah, give them money. That's
right. Isn't that what it is?

2472
02:35:04,710 --> 02:35:07,680
Click here to take action taking
action is give them money.

2473
02:35:07,770 --> 02:35:11,430
This one really requires no
explanation. The most hated

2474
02:35:11,430 --> 02:35:15,630
company in the US is trying to
take over the second most hated

2475
02:35:15,630 --> 02:35:21,240
company in the US. Let me say, I
don't know these are the most

2476
02:35:21,240 --> 02:35:24,480
hated companies in the US I can
think of a couple I'm not too

2477
02:35:24,480 --> 02:35:25,410
fond of.

2478
02:35:25,950 --> 02:35:27,750
Well read the list.

2479
02:35:28,860 --> 02:35:32,190
Well, that there's no list is
number one is Comcast. Number

2480
02:35:32,190 --> 02:35:33,960
two was Time Warner. That's what
she's saying.

2481
02:35:34,590 --> 02:35:39,300
The most hated companies in the
US. I think at&t would top be

2482
02:35:39,300 --> 02:35:44,670
either one of those. How about
what kinds of possibility

2483
02:35:44,670 --> 02:35:45,120
companies

2484
02:35:45,120 --> 02:35:50,040
you can throw it okay. Let me
continue here. In a move that

2485
02:35:50,040 --> 02:35:53,730
would raise our cable and
internet bills, stifle online

2486
02:35:53,730 --> 02:35:59,040
free speech and make them one of
the most powerful lobbies

2487
02:35:59,280 --> 02:36:00,780
in history.

2488
02:36:01,560 --> 02:36:07,380
This merger is bad for everyone.
And there's tons of opposition

2489
02:36:07,710 --> 02:36:11,310
even from within the FCC. We
have a real chance of stopping

2490
02:36:11,310 --> 02:36:15,030
this but we have to act quickly.
Quickly. The deadlines next

2491
02:36:15,030 --> 02:36:19,620
week. Click here to stop Comcast
in its tracks. That's another

2492
02:36:19,620 --> 02:36:24,090
donate button. Comcast is
already the largest and most

2493
02:36:24,090 --> 02:36:27,840
powerful opponent of net
neutrality, online privacy and

2494
02:36:27,870 --> 02:36:32,100
internet freedom, not my
internet freedom. They have been

2495
02:36:32,100 --> 02:36:36,780
caught several times abusing
their gatekeeper power as an

2496
02:36:36,780 --> 02:36:42,210
internet provider to further
their own interests. Go on not

2497
02:36:42,210 --> 02:36:42,900
please talk.

2498
02:36:43,320 --> 02:36:46,200
I'm gonna say this guys I'm
looking at their website the

2499
02:36:46,200 --> 02:36:50,340
effort to help me help cut $40
Donate they have all these

2500
02:36:50,340 --> 02:36:53,010
shotgun projects they're all
over the place battle for the

2501
02:36:53,010 --> 02:36:57,540
net. The reset the net that's
them occupy the FCC That's them.

2502
02:36:57,540 --> 02:37:01,200
We crammed in tents on the FCC
doorstep for nine days and

2503
02:37:01,200 --> 02:37:04,140
change the game for net
neutrality You did really you

2504
02:37:04,140 --> 02:37:07,560
change the game and then what
are we worried about? Fast Track

2505
02:37:07,560 --> 02:37:11,940
is obsolete apps obsolete
technology. Stop fast track for

2506
02:37:11,940 --> 02:37:17,730
the TPP net neutrality help us
save Stephen cold bear. Boy cat

2507
02:37:17,730 --> 02:37:23,310
caught the RSA. The NSA video
the behind that will stop SOPA

2508
02:37:23,310 --> 02:37:28,320
again, call for freedom. Stop
watching us it's another project

2509
02:37:28,320 --> 02:37:28,800
of theirs.

2510
02:37:29,070 --> 02:37:32,100
These guys are all at their
front Barrett Brown.

2511
02:37:32,100 --> 02:37:36,150
What did I don't even know about
this one? They're 20,000

2512
02:37:36,150 --> 02:37:39,780
demanding freedom for a
journalist who faces 105 years

2513
02:37:40,020 --> 02:37:45,960
for sharing a link. Oh, this I
gotta see, let me five years

2514
02:37:46,620 --> 02:37:49,890
stay with the program for one
second, we need to just explain

2515
02:37:49,920 --> 02:37:55,650
very briefly, that any type of
regulation any okay is not

2516
02:37:55,650 --> 02:37:59,640
desired. You do not want
anything called net neutrality.

2517
02:37:59,640 --> 02:38:02,550
And when you hear our presidents
understanding of it, it will it

2518
02:38:02,550 --> 02:38:09,900
will become abundantly clear to
you that we are hosed. He has no

2519
02:38:09,900 --> 02:38:14,430
clue what he's talking about.
And every single rule proposal

2520
02:38:14,430 --> 02:38:19,560
we have read verbatim on this
program includes the language,

2521
02:38:19,830 --> 02:38:27,450
ISPs will block unlawful content
and unlawful network traffic.

2522
02:38:28,110 --> 02:38:33,870
This will include bullying, this
will include peer to peer. This

2523
02:38:33,870 --> 02:38:34,650
will include

2524
02:38:35,040 --> 02:38:36,510
hate speech Oh, agenda?

2525
02:38:36,570 --> 02:38:41,850
Yeah. And only they will be
blocked. Now it's not it's okay.

2526
02:38:41,850 --> 02:38:45,870
Because I believe you cannot
really, you can't shut off the

2527
02:38:45,870 --> 02:38:48,510
networks unless you're
physically coming in and cutting

2528
02:38:48,540 --> 02:38:51,900
the cable line to people's
houses that all kinds of ways

2529
02:38:51,900 --> 02:38:56,250
around this. But this will be
the result. And this is what

2530
02:38:56,250 --> 02:39:00,450
they've all wanted. And outfits
like Tiffany, hey, Tiffany from

2531
02:39:00,450 --> 02:39:05,760
fight for the future, are duping
you. Now listen to your

2532
02:39:05,760 --> 02:39:10,020
president who even contradicts
himself. It's almost like the

2533
02:39:10,020 --> 02:39:11,730
series of tubes, this guy

2534
02:39:12,270 --> 02:39:18,390
on net neutrality. I made a
commitment very early on that. I

2535
02:39:18,390 --> 02:39:20,910
am unequivocally committed to
net neutrality.

2536
02:39:21,060 --> 02:39:25,560
Now. What do you think he means
by net neutrality? I don't know.

2537
02:39:25,890 --> 02:39:29,430
Everybody's equal, like equal
pay and equal. Everything.

2538
02:39:29,520 --> 02:39:31,320
Maybe equal. Equal?

2539
02:39:31,440 --> 02:39:36,480
Fair. No losers, all winners.
Everybody wins. Everybody gets

2540
02:39:36,480 --> 02:39:38,850
the same. Everybody's equal the
same

2541
02:39:38,880 --> 02:39:40,410
hug and shares secret.

2542
02:39:40,740 --> 02:39:42,960
I think that is what has

2543
02:39:50,010 --> 02:39:53,340
think it's what has unleashed

2544
02:39:55,470 --> 02:39:57,660
the no agenda show the power

2545
02:39:57,870 --> 02:40:06,240
of the internet and We don't
want to lose that or clog up the

2546
02:40:06,240 --> 02:40:06,810
pipes.

2547
02:40:10,320 --> 02:40:14,940
We don't want to clog up the
pipes. Well, if you had net

2548
02:40:14,940 --> 02:40:19,920
neutrality, you are actually
going to clog up the pipes. You

2549
02:40:19,920 --> 02:40:25,650
need to manage network traffic
with different packet

2550
02:40:25,650 --> 02:40:33,150
prioritization. Am I crazy? Am I
not hearing him correctly?

2551
02:40:34,290 --> 02:40:37,710
It's gonna clog up the pipe.
When you got when you have, if

2552
02:40:37,710 --> 02:40:40,830
you don't have to net
neutrality, you're going to clog

2553
02:40:40,920 --> 02:40:43,140
up, you understand what I'm
saying? You know, it's like a

2554
02:40:43,140 --> 02:40:47,160
toilet bowl. If it's not used by
both the women and the men and

2555
02:40:47,160 --> 02:40:50,220
you're down for the, for the
women, you leave it down because

2556
02:40:50,220 --> 02:40:53,130
that's what they want. And if
you don't do that, then you

2557
02:40:53,130 --> 02:40:56,100
don't have the net neutrality
and that is in this thing gets

2558
02:40:56,100 --> 02:40:59,160
clogged up dad and they have to
drill it out with a roto rooter.

2559
02:40:59,190 --> 02:41:02,670
This guy should be vilified for
talking like Ted Stevens, this

2560
02:41:02,670 --> 02:41:06,150
is not a pipe. It's not a it's
not. Thank you, John. It's not

2561
02:41:06,180 --> 02:41:12,270
it's not a drainage. It's not a
sewer. Well, our show is kind of

2562
02:41:13,020 --> 02:41:15,780
our shows going through the
sewer. But it's not it's not

2563
02:41:15,780 --> 02:41:19,740
it's not a pipe. It's not how it
works. This is not how it works.

2564
02:41:19,800 --> 02:41:24,000
It's not a garden hose. It's not
a freeway, it's not a highway.

2565
02:41:24,090 --> 02:41:27,330
It's not a fast lane is not a
slow lane, you need packet

2566
02:41:27,330 --> 02:41:30,480
prioritization, any of this
stuff to work, and it is going

2567
02:41:30,480 --> 02:41:34,260
on all the time. So saying that
net neutrality will stop

2568
02:41:34,260 --> 02:41:39,270
clogging up the pipes is stupid,
and incorrect.

2569
02:41:40,350 --> 02:41:48,210
The power of the internet and we
don't want to lose that. Or clog

2570
02:41:48,210 --> 02:41:53,730
up the pipes. Oh God

2571
02:41:53,820 --> 02:41:58,950
at 10 Steven was ridiculed.
Forever been talking about the

2572
02:41:58,950 --> 02:42:02,580
tubes, the pipe says not a
truck, and all the rest of it.

2573
02:42:02,580 --> 02:42:05,610
And meanwhile Chris, this guy
gets a pass. So it's like 10

2574
02:42:05,610 --> 02:42:07,350
years later you think he no more

2575
02:42:07,350 --> 02:42:10,860
says Why bring up chunk chunk?
Because they're always like,

2576
02:42:10,860 --> 02:42:15,330
well, it's a great speech. Why
is all I hope he says yeah, he's

2577
02:42:15,330 --> 02:42:17,550
great speeches is one of the
best speeches.

2578
02:42:18,150 --> 02:42:19,560
All in with Obama.

2579
02:42:20,640 --> 02:42:26,100
The pipes. And so you can hear

2580
02:42:26,130 --> 02:42:30,120
what the fuck did I just say?
You should add a little bit out

2581
02:42:30,150 --> 02:42:30,510
I will

2582
02:42:30,540 --> 02:42:33,870
a lot of aspects to net
neutrality. And yeah, one of the

2583
02:42:33,870 --> 02:42:35,910
things that people are most
concerned about is paid

2584
02:42:35,910 --> 02:42:36,720
prioritization.

2585
02:42:37,619 --> 02:42:43,979
Oh, I'm so concerned about paid
prioritization. No, people want

2586
02:42:44,009 --> 02:42:48,389
their Netflix not to buffer and
they will pay for it. And it's

2587
02:42:48,389 --> 02:42:55,829
not prioritization. It is paid
peering. It is private peering

2588
02:42:55,829 --> 02:42:58,469
arrangements, which should be
completely private and

2589
02:42:58,469 --> 02:43:02,999
agreeable. For for what people
want, which is Facebook and

2590
02:43:03,029 --> 02:43:06,299
Netflix. People don't want
anything else stupid morons. But

2591
02:43:06,299 --> 02:43:09,899
okay. So people are worried
about paid prioritization.

2592
02:43:12,060 --> 02:43:15,150
Talking about what if you asked
100 people on the street it just

2593
02:43:15,150 --> 02:43:17,340
a direct question, are you
worried about paid

2594
02:43:17,340 --> 02:43:21,180
prioritization? What would they
say? I think

2595
02:43:21,210 --> 02:43:24,270
100 People would not know what
that's about but if you said I

2596
02:43:24,270 --> 02:43:27,210
worried about net neutrality,
they would all say oh, yeah, oh,

2597
02:43:27,210 --> 02:43:30,120
man, we get we gotta have net
neutrality gonna get screwed

2598
02:43:30,120 --> 02:43:33,360
that neutrality. You're gonna
you are gonna get screwed your

2599
02:43:33,360 --> 02:43:36,840
net neutrality with your
unlawful content laws and

2600
02:43:36,840 --> 02:43:40,590
regulations, unlawful network
traffic laws and regulations.

2601
02:43:40,620 --> 02:43:43,290
And who's going to determine
this the FCC, so the FCC is

2602
02:43:43,290 --> 02:43:45,630
going to get its way which is
always wanted to do which is

2603
02:43:45,630 --> 02:43:48,780
take control of both cable
networks. Because they the

2604
02:43:48,780 --> 02:43:51,450
broadcasting thing is dead. It's
over. I mean, at some point,

2605
02:43:51,450 --> 02:43:55,860
it's got a limited life left.
And then Federal Communications

2606
02:43:55,860 --> 02:43:57,900
Commission's about
communications and they want to

2607
02:43:57,900 --> 02:44:02,310
get hold of something else to do
so they can regulate it. So you

2608
02:44:02,310 --> 02:44:05,910
can't show a ticket without
being fined because you need to

2609
02:44:05,910 --> 02:44:09,450
get some money in the coffers.
Or you can't say fuck, you can't

2610
02:44:09,510 --> 02:44:13,080
cuss? And you can't do this. You
can't do that. And you have to

2611
02:44:13,080 --> 02:44:15,600
get a license to be a podcast or
blog or no

2612
02:44:15,600 --> 02:44:19,650
hate speech, hate speech about
No, no bullying, no name

2613
02:44:19,650 --> 02:44:20,340
calling,

2614
02:44:21,420 --> 02:44:22,320
gets bullying.

2615
02:44:23,250 --> 02:44:29,370
Now, what do you I'm trying to
think how I should how I should

2616
02:44:29,370 --> 02:44:33,150
present this to you for what
He's about to say. Well, you

2617
02:44:33,150 --> 02:44:33,960
should just listen to it.

2618
02:44:34,530 --> 02:44:35,940
The notion that somehow

2619
02:44:36,990 --> 02:44:41,490
I'll ask the question anyway. Is
he powerful? Our president, can

2620
02:44:41,490 --> 02:44:44,130
he call someone and say, here's
what I want? Here's what I want

2621
02:44:44,130 --> 02:44:44,580
you to do.

2622
02:44:45,390 --> 02:44:48,270
Yes, he could actually call the
president of Mexico and tell him

2623
02:44:48,270 --> 02:44:51,270
to release that marine that's in
jail down there, but he won't do

2624
02:44:51,270 --> 02:44:52,830
it. Could he? Yes, it's
powerful. Could

2625
02:44:52,830 --> 02:44:56,340
you think he could call the FCC
and say, Dude, here's what I

2626
02:44:56,340 --> 02:45:00,270
want you to do. Yeah. Is that
within his realm of Is that

2627
02:45:00,270 --> 02:45:02,430
within his, with his injury?
He's

2628
02:45:02,790 --> 02:45:06,240
not part of his job necessarily.
But he's powerful enough to do

2629
02:45:06,240 --> 02:45:06,690
that. Now,

2630
02:45:06,690 --> 02:45:09,360
does he appoint this man does he
appoint the

2631
02:45:09,390 --> 02:45:12,240
chairman or the leave is
appointed by the executive

2632
02:45:12,240 --> 02:45:12,810
branch.

2633
02:45:12,930 --> 02:45:17,820
So when people and I'm looking
to you, Leo, when people say we

2634
02:45:17,820 --> 02:45:20,880
had a lot of the head of the guy
that head love He is now the

2635
02:45:20,880 --> 02:45:23,610
head of the FCC. It is actually
the president who appointed him

2636
02:45:23,610 --> 02:45:25,590
Correct. I'm thinking

2637
02:45:25,590 --> 02:45:28,350
Yes, President it up while
you're while you're playing the

2638
02:45:28,350 --> 02:45:31,050
clip, I'll look at the head of
the FCC, but I'm pretty sure the

2639
02:45:31,050 --> 02:45:32,250
executive branch is

2640
02:45:32,250 --> 02:45:36,030
Tom Wheeler, I believe. Yeah.
And I'm pretty sure I smack my

2641
02:45:36,030 --> 02:45:40,110
lips. And I'm pretty sure that
President Obama Well, let's hear

2642
02:45:40,140 --> 02:45:41,760
from the President himself. Some

2643
02:45:42,450 --> 02:45:45,240
folks folks can pay a little
more money.

2644
02:45:45,270 --> 02:45:48,420
What for me, like Netflix, folks
can pay a little bit more money,

2645
02:45:48,570 --> 02:45:53,010
better service, more exclusive
access to customers.

2646
02:45:53,100 --> 02:45:56,640
So the FCC, the FCC is directed
by five commissioners appointed

2647
02:45:56,640 --> 02:46:00,090
by the President of the United
States, the President not

2648
02:46:00,090 --> 02:46:01,650
confirmed by the US Senate.

2649
02:46:02,550 --> 02:46:07,440
He just said, some people are
concerned that some folks which

2650
02:46:07,470 --> 02:46:13,050
can, it can be Republicans,
folks can be terrorists, folks

2651
02:46:13,050 --> 02:46:16,200
can be students we heard him use
folks can be sometimes we've

2652
02:46:16,200 --> 02:46:20,070
been addressed this, folks. But
some folks can pay a little bit

2653
02:46:20,070 --> 02:46:25,080
more money for direct access to
the customers. Now this is very

2654
02:46:25,080 --> 02:46:28,620
telling it how he views net
neutrality. He views it

2655
02:46:28,620 --> 02:46:31,800
completely from the cable
network standpoint, he does not

2656
02:46:31,830 --> 02:46:35,820
at all give a rat's ass about
anyone who's an independent

2657
02:46:35,820 --> 02:46:38,850
producer, just trying to make
connections with people globally

2658
02:46:38,850 --> 02:46:42,780
through this global network. He
only thinks in supply of

2659
02:46:42,780 --> 02:46:47,820
content, and customers on the
other end, which is insulting to

2660
02:46:47,820 --> 02:46:52,590
the American people, American
entrepreneurs, to content

2661
02:46:52,590 --> 02:46:57,180
creators to anybody who uses
this very unique opportunity we

2662
02:46:57,180 --> 02:47:01,050
have in our lifetime, which he
is now personally trying to

2663
02:47:01,050 --> 02:47:04,740
limit by pushing for net
neutrality, because he believes

2664
02:47:04,740 --> 02:47:09,450
it's the supply of content that
we should be happy to have from

2665
02:47:09,450 --> 02:47:13,380
Hollywood. And there's nothing
at all about the equality of

2666
02:47:13,380 --> 02:47:20,070
just connecting and as free flow
of ideas and speech. But just

2667
02:47:20,070 --> 02:47:20,640
chunk talk

2668
02:47:20,640 --> 02:47:25,740
about that now and get better
service more exclusive access to

2669
02:47:25,740 --> 02:47:32,310
customers through the internet.
That's something I'm opposed. I

2670
02:47:32,310 --> 02:47:35,850
was opposed to it. When I ran, I
continue to be opposed to it

2671
02:47:35,850 --> 02:47:41,250
now. Now, the FCC is an
independent agency. They came

2672
02:47:41,280 --> 02:47:44,580
out with some preliminary rules
that think the net routes and a

2673
02:47:44,580 --> 02:47:47,400
lot of folks in favor of net
neutrality. Were concerned with

2674
02:47:47,430 --> 02:47:51,510
net routes. This is a very old
term. Interesting. Yeah, that's

2675
02:47:51,510 --> 02:47:55,440
a good one. Net routes. Now. Net
routes are the people who got

2676
02:47:55,440 --> 02:48:00,210
Howard Dean. Initially, I think
on the ballot, and then of

2677
02:48:00,210 --> 02:48:03,360
course, the same net roots got
them off. But it also includes

2678
02:48:03,420 --> 02:48:09,150
some of the Democrat leading
organizations that I think

2679
02:48:09,150 --> 02:48:12,870
pretty much anybody who does any
lobbying online is considered to

2680
02:48:12,870 --> 02:48:17,010
be net roots. But it's kind of
an old term. It's kind of a mid

2681
02:48:17,010 --> 02:48:18,030
2000s term.

2682
02:48:19,050 --> 02:48:25,500
My appointee Tom Wheeler knows
my position. I can't now that

2683
02:48:25,500 --> 02:48:29,340
it's now that he's there. I
can't just call them up and tell

2684
02:48:29,340 --> 02:48:30,690
him exactly what to do.

2685
02:48:31,230 --> 02:48:33,120
You can Oh crap.

2686
02:48:34,770 --> 02:48:38,880
What to do what to do? I can't
tell him what to do. Yes, you

2687
02:48:38,880 --> 02:48:44,730
can. Yes, you can. You've got a
pen, you've got a phone is what

2688
02:48:44,730 --> 02:48:45,720
he's been telling us.

2689
02:48:46,980 --> 02:48:49,170
It's gonna pan I got a phone, I
can do this. I can do that. Now

2690
02:48:49,170 --> 02:48:50,820
you won't do anything. The guy
that he

2691
02:48:50,820 --> 02:48:56,070
appointed. I put him in, I can't
tell him what to do. Well, then

2692
02:48:56,100 --> 02:48:59,580
either you have no power, or
it's a crappy candidate you put

2693
02:48:59,580 --> 02:49:00,720
in which one is it

2694
02:49:00,750 --> 02:49:04,350
now that he's there? I can't
just call him up and tell him

2695
02:49:04,380 --> 02:49:09,840
exactly what to do. But what
I've been clear about what the

2696
02:49:09,840 --> 02:49:12,210
White House had been clear about
is is that we expect whatever

2697
02:49:12,210 --> 02:49:17,940
final rules to emerge to make
sure that we're not creating two

2698
02:49:17,940 --> 02:49:19,440
or three or four tiers

2699
02:49:20,010 --> 02:49:24,630
two or three or why not 50 tier
why not? What's wrong with your

2700
02:49:24,630 --> 02:49:27,660
tears? Love, we won't want it we
don't want tears. There's

2701
02:49:27,660 --> 02:49:32,070
already tears. It's already
cheered. Service, you get t you

2702
02:49:32,070 --> 02:49:35,790
pay more for business accounts.
Yeah. Well, we can't have that.

2703
02:49:35,790 --> 02:49:40,200
Now. I don't know sounds like
it's just like the Vonnegut

2704
02:49:40,200 --> 02:49:44,130
story where instead of everybody
having great access the people

2705
02:49:44,130 --> 02:49:48,480
that have fast access, so I have
200 megabits per second. I'm

2706
02:49:48,480 --> 02:49:52,380
going to get penalised. I'll
have a limiter put on because

2707
02:49:52,440 --> 02:49:58,260
then I'll have more access than
you. And they'll poke one eye

2708
02:49:58,260 --> 02:50:01,170
out so that I know so that we
see either set Okay, I think we

2709
02:50:01,170 --> 02:50:07,860
made our point internet internet
what? Now? That's it two tiers

2710
02:50:07,860 --> 02:50:11,250
of internet that was clumps are

2711
02:50:11,760 --> 02:50:16,380
gonna lead to the following. I
have a clip this would have this

2712
02:50:16,380 --> 02:50:20,490
the future of tech reporting. Do
we have to admit this is a clip

2713
02:50:20,490 --> 02:50:21,840
from four years

2714
02:50:22,170 --> 02:50:25,650
to tech news jingle Are we okay?
Yeah,

2715
02:50:25,680 --> 02:50:27,390
let's play the check news jingle

2716
02:50:30,000 --> 02:50:32,910
that means I have to go look for
it. Oh, you want to play it then

2717
02:50:32,940 --> 02:50:35,610
I have it I have it. I have tech
news jingle and then we have

2718
02:50:35,610 --> 02:50:36,330
tech news.

2719
02:50:39,750 --> 02:50:44,250
My phone the way I see it the
only good phones a landline and

2720
02:50:44,250 --> 02:50:46,320
the phone should be made out of
Bakelite.

2721
02:50:49,980 --> 02:50:52,950
The very you know from classic
dungeons now we try to present

2722
02:50:52,950 --> 02:50:55,020
ourself as a dungeon crawl.
There's lots of dungeons but

2723
02:50:55,230 --> 02:50:58,860
outdoor areas like you're seeing
in this demo and, and wilderness

2724
02:50:58,860 --> 02:50:59,640
areas and towns as

2725
02:50:59,640 --> 02:51:01,680
well. Not sure the engine can
render them beautifully. And

2726
02:51:01,680 --> 02:51:04,020
clearly you guys are taking
advantage of that the game looks

2727
02:51:04,050 --> 02:51:06,480
incredible. On to the demons
Forge. When

2728
02:51:06,480 --> 02:51:08,250
did we get to play it? When do I
get it? When do I convince my

2729
02:51:08,250 --> 02:51:10,710
friends to buy it? We're
shipping first quarter next

2730
02:51:10,710 --> 02:51:11,010
year.

2731
02:51:16,500 --> 02:51:22,770
Was this what I miss? It was
four years ago. And did that

2732
02:51:22,770 --> 02:51:30,420
game ever come out? I don't
care. I launch my phone. That's

2733
02:51:30,420 --> 02:51:34,200
our tech news, everybody. I hope
you enjoy it. I do have one last

2734
02:51:34,200 --> 02:51:38,250
little bit of annoyance that I
need to get out. And this is

2735
02:51:38,250 --> 02:51:45,930
regarding Haiti. I'm sorry. It
always happens. We missed

2736
02:51:45,930 --> 02:51:52,590
something we missed this.
Laurent le mouth. The prime

2737
02:51:52,590 --> 02:51:56,250
minister of Haiti. We didn't we
missed his appointment. We

2738
02:51:56,250 --> 02:51:57,420
missed this whole thing.

2739
02:51:57,900 --> 02:52:01,020
And you're the Haiti guy. I
know. You're supposed to be

2740
02:52:01,050 --> 02:52:02,280
dogging Haiti

2741
02:52:02,670 --> 02:52:08,700
TMZ had a little piece on this
guy. And the headline was yeah,

2742
02:52:08,700 --> 02:52:12,990
my girlfriend's a supermodel and
I'm damn proud of it. Oh, let me

2743
02:52:12,990 --> 02:52:20,100
look at this girl who's this
guy? This is Lauren Lamos he is

2744
02:52:20,130 --> 02:52:23,310
the prime minister of Haiti now
you know the President the

2745
02:52:23,310 --> 02:52:27,030
elected president and forced on
us by the Clintons of course is

2746
02:52:27,030 --> 02:52:33,090
a sweet Mickey Martelli and, and
so his friend who runs the cell

2747
02:52:33,120 --> 02:52:37,050
network there in in Haiti, big,
big Selma, if you look this guy

2748
02:52:37,050 --> 02:52:40,590
up is very interesting. Lorenza
moth, let me just tell you a

2749
02:52:40,590 --> 02:52:45,990
little bit about him. Young guy
born in 72, and he was the co

2750
02:52:45,990 --> 02:52:52,680
founder and CEO of the global
voice group. That's a very big I

2751
02:52:52,680 --> 02:52:55,860
think they do a pretty much a
Caribbean exclusive, but they

2752
02:52:55,890 --> 02:52:59,310
obviously provide everything to
Haiti, I think they've got the

2753
02:52:59,310 --> 02:53:05,970
deal with the microfinance etc.
And he was appointed initially

2754
02:53:05,970 --> 02:53:12,660
as a special adviser to his
friend, President sweet Mickey

2755
02:53:12,660 --> 02:53:16,830
Martelly, in order to achieve,
you know, less of a conflict now

2756
02:53:16,830 --> 02:53:19,740
to have less conflict of
interest as being an actual

2757
02:53:19,740 --> 02:53:24,780
politician. And then in 2011, he
and Bill Clinton co chair the

2758
02:53:24,780 --> 02:53:27,960
Presidential Advisory Committee
for the economic development and

2759
02:53:27,960 --> 02:53:34,320
investment in Haiti. All those
billions of dollars, well, went

2760
02:53:34,320 --> 02:53:39,060
into his cell network as far as
I can tell. And then he was the

2761
02:53:39,660 --> 02:53:44,010
foreign minister, but then he
became the prime minister after

2762
02:53:44,010 --> 02:53:47,820
the current Prime Minister Gary
khanyile resigned and this is

2763
02:53:47,820 --> 02:53:51,630
2012. And so he's the prime
minister by appointment not by

2764
02:53:52,020 --> 02:53:59,550
vote. And his girlfriend is
Petra was at number COVID.

2765
02:53:59,580 --> 02:54:02,820
Number COVID, I think is how you
pronounce it. Now you'll

2766
02:54:02,820 --> 02:54:07,950
remember her of stunningly
beautiful. She was the

2767
02:54:07,950 --> 02:54:14,700
supermodel who was caught in the
tsunami. And her fiance and

2768
02:54:14,700 --> 02:54:18,510
photographer was swept away and
she managed to hold on to a palm

2769
02:54:18,510 --> 02:54:23,970
tree and she got hurt and he
died and a horrible story. And

2770
02:54:23,970 --> 02:54:26,940
she was done with Sean Penn for
a while and now she's with this

2771
02:54:26,940 --> 02:54:29,970
guy. And she has a that's

2772
02:54:29,970 --> 02:54:34,800
why Sean Penn was hanging out in
Haiti for so long. He was like

2773
02:54:34,800 --> 02:54:36,690
in Haiti all the time.

2774
02:54:37,500 --> 02:54:41,130
And she so she and I really
think her hearts in the right

2775
02:54:41,130 --> 02:54:45,480
place. She has the happy What
does it call it? Happy, happy

2776
02:54:45,480 --> 02:54:48,330
foundation. Hold on a second,
something like that. It's called

2777
02:54:48,330 --> 02:54:53,280
the happy hearts fund. And I
think we brought it up briefly

2778
02:54:53,280 --> 02:54:58,050
on the show. But the happy
hearts fund gave a big award to

2779
02:54:59,310 --> 02:55:04,020
Bill Clinton In New York for all
of his great work for Haiti. And

2780
02:55:04,020 --> 02:55:04,920
I just want to remind the

2781
02:55:04,920 --> 02:55:08,940
picture of I just added a
picture I just sent you, I, I

2782
02:55:08,940 --> 02:55:09,120
have

2783
02:55:09,120 --> 02:55:13,080
the picture. And I just want to
remind you that when this

2784
02:55:13,110 --> 02:55:17,670
happened, we had three
presidents all sitting down and

2785
02:55:17,670 --> 02:55:18,750
asking for the following.

2786
02:55:18,960 --> 02:55:22,350
We just need cash. I know a lot
of people want to send blankets

2787
02:55:22,350 --> 02:55:23,190
or water,

2788
02:55:23,790 --> 02:55:25,080
just send your cash.

2789
02:55:25,650 --> 02:55:30,660
So this guy is rolling larger.
Everyone, everyone's at this

2790
02:55:30,660 --> 02:55:36,000
party and his good party. But he
also comes in and speaks with,

2791
02:55:37,110 --> 02:55:41,670
with our Secretary of State
Kerry. And they do the little

2792
02:55:41,670 --> 02:55:44,220
clippity clop move, and they,
the guy is tiny, by the way next

2793
02:55:44,220 --> 02:55:47,280
to Carrie, which is kind of
funny, big man, his girlfriend

2794
02:55:47,280 --> 02:55:50,370
must be a head taller than him.
That's why they're not in

2795
02:55:50,370 --> 02:55:53,820
pictures. Maybe you could stand
next to Bill, I don't want to be

2796
02:55:53,820 --> 02:55:56,760
in the picture. And as I was
listening, all of a sudden, it's

2797
02:55:56,760 --> 02:56:00,030
like, Oh, my God, they're about
to screw this country royally,

2798
02:56:00,270 --> 02:56:05,910
even more than it is now. We
know that. of the 500,000 people

2799
02:56:05,910 --> 02:56:09,120
who were in tents, you know, the
United Nations, the blue helmets

2800
02:56:09,120 --> 02:56:12,870
brought in cholera, people are
dying. But what's happening is

2801
02:56:12,900 --> 02:56:16,350
they're just ignoring everything
there. They are pushing people

2802
02:56:16,500 --> 02:56:20,700
into the neighboring I have the
name of it. Here it is. It's

2803
02:56:20,700 --> 02:56:25,080
really quite sad. While they're
building all these huge hotels

2804
02:56:25,080 --> 02:56:30,420
and turning into this super
luxurious destination, really,

2805
02:56:31,470 --> 02:56:35,430
the 100 1000s of people are
being pushed in their tents into

2806
02:56:35,490 --> 02:56:39,120
a desert, kind of neighboring
desert out of Port au Prince.

2807
02:56:39,750 --> 02:56:42,750
And now let's listen to this
guy. And the problem is they

2808
02:56:42,750 --> 02:56:46,350
have an election coming up the
end of this month. But there are

2809
02:56:46,350 --> 02:56:50,190
people inside the government of
Haiti who had been elected who

2810
02:56:50,190 --> 02:56:53,880
are who have will have they they
will have nothing of it. They

2811
02:56:53,880 --> 02:56:57,540
don't have the electoral rules,
the electoral rules that

2812
02:56:57,540 --> 02:57:00,840
everyone decided on, when they
went to the vote, they had been

2813
02:57:00,840 --> 02:57:08,130
changed by by the administration
to read differently. And the

2814
02:57:08,130 --> 02:57:11,400
senators said we're not voting
on this is bullcrap, you're

2815
02:57:11,400 --> 02:57:15,000
trying to screw us so that you
can screw the people of Haiti.

2816
02:57:15,630 --> 02:57:18,990
But this is how it works. When
you're in with the Atlanticist

2817
02:57:18,990 --> 02:57:22,020
and the globalists like Carrie
here they are together happy

2818
02:57:22,020 --> 02:57:29,010
to welcome the Prime Minister of
Haiti, here to Washington, and

2819
02:57:29,010 --> 02:57:34,800
in doing so I welcome a good
friend, good partner, major

2820
02:57:34,800 --> 02:57:40,440
efforts to meet the challenges
of Haiti, which are significant

2821
02:57:40,440 --> 02:57:45,540
because of the devastating
earthquake and some of the needs

2822
02:57:45,750 --> 02:57:47,370
to push for political reform.

2823
02:57:47,850 --> 02:57:51,780
Political reform, you say sounds
like freedoms coming your way

2824
02:57:51,780 --> 02:57:52,320
Haiti.

2825
02:57:55,110 --> 02:57:58,290
The government has worked hard
and we have worked hard, the

2826
02:57:58,290 --> 02:57:59,850
international community has
worked

2827
02:57:59,880 --> 02:58:03,630
hard to steal the money to make
a difference

2828
02:58:03,630 --> 02:58:05,730
to the lives of the people of
Haiti.

2829
02:58:09,270 --> 02:58:13,170
Do you remember the big the big
benefit concert the Clooney put

2830
02:58:13,170 --> 02:58:13,560
on?

2831
02:58:14,190 --> 02:58:15,630
Oh, yeah, we all remember.

2832
02:58:16,080 --> 02:58:20,280
And we have a deep interest in
the United States and helping to

2833
02:58:20,280 --> 02:58:26,400
continue down this road. Both
democracy and economic growth

2834
02:58:26,490 --> 02:58:27,330
and development.

2835
02:58:27,900 --> 02:58:30,600
It's so disgusting to hear these
people talk like this about

2836
02:58:30,600 --> 02:58:32,370
people are dying in tents.

2837
02:58:32,580 --> 02:58:36,000
There is work to be done. And
particularly as we know, there

2838
02:58:36,000 --> 02:58:44,040
is a challenge of completing the
task of having local and

2839
02:58:44,040 --> 02:58:49,290
legislative elections as soon as
possible, being able to set the

2840
02:58:49,290 --> 02:58:53,760
date and hold those elections to
complete the task of Haiti's

2841
02:58:53,760 --> 02:58:54,480
transition.

2842
02:58:54,869 --> 02:58:58,769
Transition to what what When did
this happen? When did we need to

2843
02:58:58,769 --> 02:59:02,459
transition these people need
houses? They need a roof and

2844
02:59:02,459 --> 02:59:03,749
water and no

2845
02:59:03,779 --> 02:59:07,469
cholera is the problem. I'm
sorry, it didn't kill them off

2846
02:59:07,469 --> 02:59:09,989
yet this week was just to get
the population reduced down to

2847
02:59:09,989 --> 02:59:13,199
something reasonable and easy to
manage there and to fix things.

2848
02:59:13,290 --> 02:59:16,080
While it did. They're very
close. And then you'll hear this

2849
02:59:16,080 --> 02:59:17,580
from the Prime Minister,

2850
02:59:17,670 --> 02:59:21,450
unfortunately, that is being
blocked down politically by

2851
02:59:21,450 --> 02:59:25,110
Republicans. I spoke with
President Martelly just the

2852
02:59:25,110 --> 02:59:28,770
other day about this. And we
intend to try to work very

2853
02:59:28,770 --> 02:59:33,960
closely to move forward this
this resistance, the

2854
02:59:33,960 --> 02:59:37,560
unwillingness to allow the
people to be able to have this

2855
02:59:37,560 --> 02:59:42,150
vote really challenges the
overall growth and development

2856
02:59:42,150 --> 02:59:43,440
progress of the country.

2857
02:59:43,769 --> 02:59:48,839
It's it's just mind boggling to
me that there's a group of

2858
02:59:48,869 --> 02:59:52,979
elected leaders in Haiti who are
saying we're it's written

2859
02:59:52,979 --> 02:59:57,869
everywhere you can read it in
all kinds of publication that

2860
02:59:57,869 --> 03:00:01,319
are being screwed and we're not
gonna let these elections happen

2861
03:00:01,319 --> 03:00:06,239
under these rules because it is
it we're being duped. And here

2862
03:00:06,239 --> 03:00:11,009
are these, here's this asshole
carries, oh, we maybe should go

2863
03:00:11,009 --> 03:00:12,809
on we should maybe we should
arrest these people that are

2864
03:00:12,809 --> 03:00:16,319
just waiting for that to happen.
You're blocking progress it is

2865
03:00:16,349 --> 03:00:20,009
just it's mind boggling that no
one says anything about this

2866
03:00:20,040 --> 03:00:24,450
need to have a fully functioning
government. The President has

2867
03:00:24,450 --> 03:00:27,630
been working very hard, the
Prime Minister working very very

2868
03:00:27,630 --> 03:00:31,410
hard to pull people together to
make this happen.

2869
03:00:31,440 --> 03:00:34,440
Where did this pretty carry did
give this boring speech

2870
03:00:34,470 --> 03:00:37,650
at the State Department with the
guy and the about the guy who's

2871
03:00:37,650 --> 03:00:41,160
about to speak and you'll hear
what he has to say. He was one

2872
03:00:41,160 --> 03:00:45,720
of those they're together and he
came in to get 25 billion and

2873
03:00:45,720 --> 03:00:50,760
IMF loans. That's why he's in
Washington with Fifi Fifi

2874
03:00:50,760 --> 03:00:53,400
Lagarde of this. This is just
it's

2875
03:00:53,430 --> 03:00:56,520
the we'll talk about that today.
And we have very, very high

2876
03:00:56,520 --> 03:01:00,690
hopes that we can make progress
with respect to that, because

2877
03:01:00,690 --> 03:01:04,440
that will facilitate our ability
to build big buildings if

2878
03:01:04,440 --> 03:01:08,100
continue the progress and
complete the task of helping the

2879
03:01:08,100 --> 03:01:12,060
people of Haiti to have the day
to day lives they deserve and

2880
03:01:12,060 --> 03:01:16,380
want, which we want for PRIME
MINISTER Well,

2881
03:01:16,769 --> 03:01:20,549
I want to thank Secretary Kerry
for for having us today. It's a

2882
03:01:20,549 --> 03:01:24,419
great pleasure and honor to be
here. It's my second visit. I

2883
03:01:24,419 --> 03:01:29,939
used to be foreign minister here
of ad so I'm very, very happy to

2884
03:01:29,939 --> 03:01:34,529
be able to discuss his progress.
We came a long way. After a

2885
03:01:34,529 --> 03:01:40,259
devastating earthquake that took
away 250,000 lives. 500,000

2886
03:01:40,259 --> 03:01:45,389
people were wounded. The country
had $14 billion in damages. And

2887
03:01:45,419 --> 03:01:49,409
50% of the population of
photoprints was homeless. That's

2888
03:01:49,409 --> 03:01:54,089
the situation we found today.
98% of that population has been

2889
03:01:54,089 --> 03:01:54,989
relocated,

2890
03:01:55,140 --> 03:01:58,920
relocated, 98% of the poverty of
the population has been

2891
03:01:59,310 --> 03:02:06,300
relocated. Yes. Long is this
clip? Well, I'm sorry. I mean,

2892
03:02:06,300 --> 03:02:07,920
it's, it's important to me,

2893
03:02:07,949 --> 03:02:10,319
Well, I know but you couldn't
cut it down a little bit.

2894
03:02:10,350 --> 03:02:16,050
I've cut it in. It's a third of
what it was. All right. Well, if

2895
03:02:16,050 --> 03:02:16,650
you're bored, it's I'm

2896
03:02:16,650 --> 03:02:19,050
just saying I have a two minute
clip you always give me grief

2897
03:02:19,050 --> 03:02:21,510
about but this clip is going on
forever. I think the points been

2898
03:02:21,510 --> 03:02:22,080
made.

2899
03:02:22,470 --> 03:02:25,500
Well, no, I don't think so. I
think the the numbers are

2900
03:02:25,500 --> 03:02:29,490
important. So if he's saying 98%
have been recruited relocated of

2901
03:02:29,490 --> 03:02:32,640
2 million people in Puerto
prince that still leaves 2%

2902
03:02:32,640 --> 03:02:36,000
That's 40,000 People are still
intense pooping their guts out

2903
03:02:36,000 --> 03:02:37,230
in the city itself.

2904
03:02:37,470 --> 03:02:40,770
Does it deny the relocated
people can't they be in tents?

2905
03:02:41,040 --> 03:02:43,710
They are intense. Well,
everybody's in tents.

2906
03:02:45,270 --> 03:02:46,770
But they've been relocated.

2907
03:02:48,330 --> 03:02:50,970
wordage they've been relocated.
That doesn't mean anything. It

2908
03:02:50,970 --> 03:02:52,770
means that they're screwed. Yes.

2909
03:02:53,430 --> 03:02:56,160
All right. Well, yeah, it's just
me. Nevermind, we don't have to

2910
03:02:56,160 --> 03:02:57,120
listen to it. It's fine.

2911
03:02:57,150 --> 03:03:00,000
I'm just saying you. I think the
point is, is made these you're

2912
03:03:00,000 --> 03:03:01,590
just you know, you've said this

2913
03:03:01,590 --> 03:03:04,650
four times. Now the point is
made the point is made your

2914
03:03:04,650 --> 03:03:05,130
clips are

2915
03:03:05,130 --> 03:03:09,450
too long. Okay. All right. When
I do clips you cut me off at

2916
03:03:09,450 --> 03:03:11,160
about a minute and you're quite
the

2917
03:03:11,160 --> 03:03:14,970
opposite. If you go listen to
the last 10 shows I've said this

2918
03:03:14,970 --> 03:03:17,640
is actually the place where it's
okay to play long clip. You've

2919
03:03:17,640 --> 03:03:19,920
had three minute clips you've
had five minute clips and we've

2920
03:03:19,920 --> 03:03:21,990
let them play out entirely so
fine,

2921
03:03:22,020 --> 03:03:26,010
fine, fine. Those clips and so
you could come on it's fine.

2922
03:03:26,010 --> 03:03:32,820
It's fine it's fine. It's okay
no no we get it or get each

2923
03:03:32,820 --> 03:03:35,220
other for this but you all would
will cut me off but

2924
03:03:35,220 --> 03:03:38,370
instead of saying how long is
this clip to say okay, get the

2925
03:03:38,370 --> 03:03:39,030
point of gun

2926
03:03:40,110 --> 03:03:42,570
trying to say that but then you
won't listen to me.

2927
03:03:42,600 --> 03:03:45,180
Oh, you didn't say that? You
said How long is this clip?

2928
03:03:45,450 --> 03:03:47,160
Where was this boring speech?
Oh,

2929
03:03:47,160 --> 03:03:49,950
I think if you listen a little
earlier I was trying to get this

2930
03:03:49,950 --> 03:03:53,790
shortened up I just think to too
long these clips you had today

2931
03:03:53,850 --> 03:03:56,760
was your long clip day. I mean
it's fine if you think it's

2932
03:03:56,760 --> 03:03:59,730
important but I don't see or
anything in that carry thing we

2933
03:03:59,730 --> 03:04:03,540
could have cut that right off
carry is boring. He said nothing

2934
03:04:03,570 --> 03:04:05,580
he said then this other guy
doesn't say anything because you

2935
03:04:05,580 --> 03:04:09,390
already told us what we need to
know. I think we were right on

2936
03:04:09,390 --> 03:04:11,610
the money with the whole thing
but I don't see that there's any

2937
03:04:11,640 --> 03:04:15,990
backup in these clips is just
the guys Blad at I just didn't

2938
03:04:15,990 --> 03:04:19,050
think the clips are positive.
They didn't help your point. I

2939
03:04:19,050 --> 03:04:22,620
think they were they were just
weren't good clips. Sorry. Okay,

2940
03:04:22,620 --> 03:04:24,480
and it's just only that when the
other stuff was good. It's just

2941
03:04:24,480 --> 03:04:27,450
this clip here was and Carrie
you know, I can only put up with

2942
03:04:27,450 --> 03:04:28,440
so much of that guy.

2943
03:04:28,830 --> 03:04:32,160
Okay. You didn't complain about
the three minute global warming

2944
03:04:32,160 --> 03:04:34,410
clip. You thought that was
funny. That was three minutes.

2945
03:04:35,880 --> 03:04:36,450
Well, it

2946
03:04:36,450 --> 03:04:41,880
was Yeah. I don't know. I mean,
the global warming thing is

2947
03:04:41,880 --> 03:04:44,550
different because it was kind of
led to a punch line your

2948
03:04:44,580 --> 03:04:47,520
you got your two minutes
Scottish poll tax clip, which

2949
03:04:47,520 --> 03:04:49,560
you could have said they're
gonna get screwed over Potter to

2950
03:04:49,560 --> 03:04:53,100
screw skulls. As I find it's
fine. It's fine. It's called

2951
03:04:53,130 --> 03:04:55,500
it's called you know, not
everyone has listened to every

2952
03:04:55,500 --> 03:04:59,340
single show like we have. That
everybody know there are new

2953
03:04:59,340 --> 03:05:01,650
people who have no The whole
idea what's going on in Haiti.

2954
03:05:03,360 --> 03:05:07,110
People forget these things.
Well, that's true when you have

2955
03:05:07,140 --> 03:05:10,470
you when you have the Secretary
of State standing there and

2956
03:05:10,470 --> 03:05:16,650
saying transition is being
blocked in Haiti. It is

2957
03:05:16,650 --> 03:05:22,230
disgusting. These two are people
it is disgusting that no one is

2958
03:05:22,230 --> 03:05:26,730
saying hey, ass wipe. Where did
all the money go that Clinton

2959
03:05:26,730 --> 03:05:30,150
stole you guys are partying it
up in New York with supermodel

2960
03:05:30,150 --> 03:05:34,410
girlfriends. Screw you
douchebags and it's real people.

2961
03:05:34,470 --> 03:05:38,190
And you can fly three hours and
be there at the hilt at the

2962
03:05:38,190 --> 03:05:39,510
Clinton hotel,

2963
03:05:39,570 --> 03:05:42,690
by the way, but since you
mentioned her as it probably a

2964
03:05:42,690 --> 03:05:46,260
good person, I would recommend
reading her wiki page and you

2965
03:05:46,260 --> 03:05:50,850
tell me she's not a spy for
somebody? Really? No, seriously?

2966
03:05:51,239 --> 03:05:52,199
Well, let's take a look.

2967
03:05:52,409 --> 03:05:57,329
She speaks like 20 languages she
has been everywhere. She has all

2968
03:05:57,329 --> 03:06:03,059
the earmarks of some sort of I
don't know who let's see who

2969
03:06:03,059 --> 03:06:05,339
speaks Czech Slovak Polish
English

2970
03:06:05,790 --> 03:06:08,460
she's she's from Czechoslovakia
you get to speak a couple of

2971
03:06:08,460 --> 03:06:08,850
languages

2972
03:06:09,360 --> 03:06:14,640
slide on but Slovak Polish
English French Italian she was

2973
03:06:14,640 --> 03:06:18,180
engaged the English actor Jamie
by Bellman or whoever that isn't

2974
03:06:18,180 --> 03:06:21,420
that ended. And then she's here
she's in the tsunami. She's

2975
03:06:21,420 --> 03:06:24,540
over. She's she's lived
everywhere. It's just I'm just

2976
03:06:24,600 --> 03:06:27,420
tired of me. You read this and
telling me that she's not a spy?

2977
03:06:28,200 --> 03:06:29,400
Knowing the the

2978
03:06:29,730 --> 03:06:32,670
I don't think No I don't think
she's a spy. I think she's a

2979
03:06:32,670 --> 03:06:35,520
very She's probably just No, I
don't think so. I think she's

2980
03:06:35,520 --> 03:06:38,820
probably a very sweet girl. And
she's been in certain circles

2981
03:06:38,820 --> 03:06:41,700
she does not know any different
this has been her life from very

2982
03:06:41,700 --> 03:06:46,470
early on. Her foundation is
selling chaupar necklaces for

2983
03:06:46,470 --> 03:06:51,630
$1,500 of which 17% goes to the
charity on her on the charities

2984
03:06:51,630 --> 03:07:02,490
website which I find to be
sketchy I don't know now I don't

2985
03:07:02,490 --> 03:07:05,610
I don't mean that but do you
think she's a spy? I don't think

2986
03:07:05,610 --> 03:07:06,000
so.

2987
03:07:06,300 --> 03:07:09,690
No, take a read the whole thing
when you have a chance and maybe

2988
03:07:09,690 --> 03:07:10,500
I'm wrong but

2989
03:07:10,530 --> 03:07:13,920
she's a presidential model you
know she's an executive and I

2990
03:07:13,920 --> 03:07:17,520
know what you're thinking but I
am thinking MK Ultra of anything

2991
03:07:19,080 --> 03:07:24,660
look at her she's a privileged
girl is privileged

2992
03:07:24,870 --> 03:07:27,120
certify she's been everywhere
she's a

2993
03:07:27,120 --> 03:07:31,740
bit short 510 That's not really
talked enough for well for

2994
03:07:31,740 --> 03:07:33,120
supermodel status

2995
03:07:38,280 --> 03:07:40,380
as I don't like the picture on
our wiki

2996
03:07:42,210 --> 03:07:45,570
if you just go to images you get
some really good pictures of her

2997
03:07:45,630 --> 03:07:49,020
it looks a little easier than
Sports Illustrated swimsuit

2998
03:07:49,020 --> 03:07:53,760
model two which is always a plus
out choosing the Miss Universe

2999
03:07:53,760 --> 03:08:00,630
competition in Quito Ecuador.
With a shoo in Miss Universe

3000
03:08:00,630 --> 03:08:02,610
competition woohoo she
representing must have been

3001
03:08:02,610 --> 03:08:10,290
Czechoslovakia. How about Haiti?
Why not? Piers currently sign

3002
03:08:10,290 --> 03:08:10,650
in.

3003
03:08:10,710 --> 03:08:13,140
I'm very happy. I'm dating
around Plymouth.

3004
03:08:14,460 --> 03:08:17,100
Yeah, that's the other thing.
Why would she date this guy?

3005
03:08:17,640 --> 03:08:21,960
Well, look at him. He's so
beautiful. I'm sorry. He has

3006
03:08:21,960 --> 03:08:24,990
money because he has money. I'll
just say it. She's gonna think

3007
03:08:24,990 --> 03:08:27,480
she's shallow. And shallow.
That's what I'll say.

3008
03:08:27,509 --> 03:08:29,099
I'll just say she's keeping an
eye on him.

3009
03:08:30,150 --> 03:08:31,950
While she was keeping an eye on
Sean Penn.

3010
03:08:33,360 --> 03:08:36,450
Somebody's got to. Yeah,

3011
03:08:36,480 --> 03:08:39,960
maybe what could be well, if you
take the Haiti thing into

3012
03:08:39,960 --> 03:08:45,840
consideration, you may be right.
You may be right. Of course,

3013
03:08:45,840 --> 03:08:52,230
this $3 million. You knows I
have the 990. A lot of travel,

3014
03:08:52,260 --> 03:08:57,180
spending a couple $100,000 on
travel. Traveling everywhere.

3015
03:08:57,210 --> 03:08:57,750
Fine.

3016
03:08:57,900 --> 03:09:00,090
All right. All right. Let's
summarize the Haitians are being

3017
03:09:00,090 --> 03:09:02,070
screwed. And now they're going
to be screwed more?

3018
03:09:02,100 --> 03:09:06,930
Well, no, I think what is
happening is the senators

3019
03:09:06,990 --> 03:09:08,970
because that's what I was in the
clip was coming up, but we're

3020
03:09:09,090 --> 03:09:13,320
never going to hear that again.
The senators in in Haiti I have

3021
03:09:13,320 --> 03:09:17,280
for 200 days I've been blocking
this election, which is supposed

3022
03:09:17,280 --> 03:09:20,490
to happen on the 26th they've
been blocking it because the

3023
03:09:20,520 --> 03:09:23,880
electoral rules were changed the
ones they all voted on and

3024
03:09:23,910 --> 03:09:27,000
saying we're not going to
approve this. And I think

3025
03:09:27,120 --> 03:09:30,810
someone will have to die.
Something bad is going to happen

3026
03:09:30,810 --> 03:09:34,770
and you're hearing he's going to
carry saying hey, Carrie, we

3027
03:09:34,770 --> 03:09:37,710
have to get this approved.
Because otherwise we can't

3028
03:09:37,830 --> 03:09:41,160
really move the last 2% or
whatever it is into the tents

3029
03:09:41,160 --> 03:09:44,640
and you know, bulldoze over them
or whatever they're going to do

3030
03:09:44,820 --> 03:09:48,450
to go look at pictures of hey,
they're building high rises,

3031
03:09:48,450 --> 03:09:51,870
condos, it's going to be it's
going to be a beautiful resort.

3032
03:09:52,380 --> 03:09:57,330
They've just steamrolled these
people away. I just have

3033
03:09:57,330 --> 03:10:00,210
compassion for I've never been
there. I don't know anyone. From

3034
03:10:00,210 --> 03:10:03,180
Haiti, I have compassion for
this. It pisses me off.

3035
03:10:03,540 --> 03:10:07,950
Yeah. Well, well, you're the one
tracking it. It's never been the

3036
03:10:08,010 --> 03:10:13,500
scam since the first since the
earthquake happened. And it's

3037
03:10:13,500 --> 03:10:16,440
been give us your money and then
it all ended up in the Clinton

3038
03:10:16,440 --> 03:10:20,220
Foundation. I don't know. We've
We've discussed this quite a bit

3039
03:10:20,220 --> 03:10:22,230
on the show for people that are
new to the show.

3040
03:10:22,260 --> 03:10:25,590
That's kind of what I meant is a
little background for people,

3041
03:10:25,620 --> 03:10:29,490
man. All right. All right. I'll
take it. You're right. It was it

3042
03:10:29,490 --> 03:10:32,970
was too long. You're right. But
just send the clips too long.

3043
03:10:32,970 --> 03:10:33,150
Don't

3044
03:10:33,150 --> 03:10:35,280
give me too long carry stinks. I

3045
03:10:35,280 --> 03:10:37,380
don't know what I don't like is
when you say you made your

3046
03:10:37,380 --> 03:10:39,810
point. That's like, that's rude.

3047
03:10:41,520 --> 03:10:46,200
You didn't make your point to
you. Well, I'm the guy that's

3048
03:10:46,200 --> 03:10:46,740
listening.

3049
03:10:48,720 --> 03:10:52,020
Okay, well, that's a good point
there. All right, you got any

3050
03:10:52,020 --> 03:10:53,190
clips then to ended up?

3051
03:10:53,789 --> 03:10:56,399
I'm gonna put my clips off. I
did have some stuff I wanted to

3052
03:10:56,399 --> 03:10:59,069
do from last year, but I didn't
put them on this clip. Yeah,

3053
03:10:59,069 --> 03:11:06,629
here play this monkey, given the
right to vote. is the dumbest

3054
03:11:06,629 --> 03:11:07,499
story of the week

3055
03:11:07,530 --> 03:11:11,310
with this. And onto our legal
panel. The New York appeals

3056
03:11:11,310 --> 03:11:14,970
court weighing a case that would
grant chimpanzees legal

3057
03:11:14,970 --> 03:11:18,270
personhood. But will this monkey
business hold up in court here

3058
03:11:18,270 --> 03:11:21,630
to debate a civil rights
attorney Paul Millis of Meyer

3059
03:11:21,660 --> 03:11:25,410
Suzhou, English and Klein and
Bill Franken, a partner at

3060
03:11:25,410 --> 03:11:29,610
Frumkin and Hunter law firm.
Wow, okay, Bill, what is legal

3061
03:11:29,610 --> 03:11:30,720
personhood for the

3062
03:11:30,990 --> 03:11:34,080
legal personhood is basically
being qualified under the law as

3063
03:11:34,080 --> 03:11:36,750
a person. So you can avail
yourself of some of its

3064
03:11:36,750 --> 03:11:39,270
protections like habeas corpus,
which is what they're trying to

3065
03:11:39,270 --> 03:11:43,050
do here to say that human beings
Yes, well, it's it has to be a

3066
03:11:43,050 --> 03:11:45,930
stretch of the law out and the
word person, there's no question

3067
03:11:45,930 --> 03:11:48,810
about it. But if you look at
science and technology and our

3068
03:11:48,810 --> 03:11:52,230
knowledge of animals and what
they know, et cetera, this suits

3069
03:11:52,260 --> 03:11:55,860
it's getting close to know that
the DNA and certain makeup of

3070
03:11:55,860 --> 03:11:58,290
chimpanzees are the same as
humans. And that's where the

3071
03:11:58,290 --> 03:12:00,210
analysis starts. With all due
respect

3072
03:12:00,210 --> 03:12:03,390
below, should I call your doctor
says, this is Monkey Business at

3073
03:12:03,390 --> 03:12:07,080
its height. A person is not a
monkey, a monkey is not a

3074
03:12:07,080 --> 03:12:10,110
person, pure and simple. And
you're quoted the chimpanzee

3075
03:12:10,110 --> 03:12:11,430
is also not a monkey, by the
way.

3076
03:12:11,460 --> 03:12:13,830
With this, they dealt with it in
divorce cases where people are

3077
03:12:13,830 --> 03:12:17,130
fighting over Fido. They want
Fido both of them do and the

3078
03:12:17,130 --> 03:12:20,340
court says it's a chattel. In
other words, it's something you

3079
03:12:20,340 --> 03:12:24,510
own. We may love our dogs, and I
certainly do mine but it's on

3080
03:12:24,540 --> 03:12:25,800
it's something you own. It's a
piece of

3081
03:12:26,070 --> 03:12:31,980
no you don't that's not true.
You're not your your caregiver,

3082
03:12:32,010 --> 03:12:35,010
your caregiver, Guardian,
Guardian, thank you, you're not

3083
03:12:35,010 --> 03:12:37,620
allowed to own a pet. So that's
only

3084
03:12:37,620 --> 03:12:39,870
in certain states. Okay,

3085
03:12:39,930 --> 03:12:42,960
what's the most convincing
argument that these animal

3086
03:12:42,960 --> 03:12:45,780
activists have constantly I
gotta, you know, this is crazy

3087
03:12:45,780 --> 03:12:48,210
to me. They're human beings. And

3088
03:12:50,370 --> 03:12:52,320
anyway, you summarize, what's
the point? No,

3089
03:12:52,350 --> 03:12:56,460
one point is that this is this
is a dumb piece of crap story

3090
03:12:56,460 --> 03:12:59,490
that came up on Fox and it's
never going to that's not going

3091
03:12:59,490 --> 03:13:02,100
to work. And they found two guys
that talk about it. One guy's

3092
03:13:02,100 --> 03:13:04,110
took the one side of being a
monkey should be given

3093
03:13:04,110 --> 03:13:06,630
citizenship, and the other one
didn't. That's the other side,

3094
03:13:06,630 --> 03:13:09,270
which is the way it works on
these shows. If I went, if it

3095
03:13:09,270 --> 03:13:12,180
was me, I'd be I'd be glad to
argue for the monkey, you know,

3096
03:13:12,180 --> 03:13:15,660
just to get on some airtime.
Wow. But anyways, and Ron, we

3097
03:13:15,660 --> 03:13:18,990
cut we cut the Haiti clip short
for that. Wow.

3098
03:13:19,020 --> 03:13:21,810
Yeah, yeah. I cut it. I
listened. I stopped it.

3099
03:13:22,980 --> 03:13:24,270
After two minutes of it,

3100
03:13:25,050 --> 03:13:26,340
I could have stopped it sooner.

3101
03:13:26,460 --> 03:13:30,120
The only thing I have. I do want
to mention that next week, this

3102
03:13:30,120 --> 03:13:33,780
coming week, regulators from the
United States and United Kingdom

3103
03:13:33,840 --> 03:13:38,190
will get together in a war room
to see I'll tell you who's

3104
03:13:38,190 --> 03:13:42,240
getting together Treasury
Secretary Jack Lew. George

3105
03:13:42,240 --> 03:13:45,840
George Osborne, the UK,
Chancellor of the Exchequer,

3106
03:13:45,840 --> 03:13:51,270
which is the Treasury Secretary,
along with Federal Reserve

3107
03:13:51,270 --> 03:13:55,170
Chairwoman Janet Yellen. And
bank of Governor Bank of England

3108
03:13:55,170 --> 03:13:59,460
governor Mark Carney, they're
going to do a simulation of what

3109
03:13:59,460 --> 03:14:03,330
would happen if a large bank
failed. And I'm only bringing

3110
03:14:03,330 --> 03:14:07,410
this up because sometimes when
they do these drills, you know,

3111
03:14:07,440 --> 03:14:09,750
weird things happen. And I said
weird but

3112
03:14:10,109 --> 03:14:12,389
weird. Scope. It's the Bank of
America.

3113
03:14:12,930 --> 03:14:16,530
No. Oh, like 911 was a
simulation SEVEN, SEVEN was a

3114
03:14:16,530 --> 03:14:20,250
simulation. It's always these
drills and tests going on when

3115
03:14:20,460 --> 03:14:23,910
crazy things happen. And we need
to be aware of that.

3116
03:14:31,620 --> 03:14:34,680
Oh, maybe that's what is oh, you
know what it could be? What?

3117
03:14:35,130 --> 03:14:41,160
Cyber attack by ICE not by ISIL.
But by the Corizon. Group. Yeah,

3118
03:14:41,190 --> 03:14:41,970
of a bank.

3119
03:14:42,000 --> 03:14:46,050
Nice. Well, we'll be right up
getting there.

3120
03:14:46,050 --> 03:14:49,200
We're getting primed for cyber,
cyber, cyber, cyber to an

3121
03:14:49,290 --> 03:14:53,970
extreme. And then we can dump
the money into this stuff that

3122
03:14:54,300 --> 03:14:57,990
you know these various. Who's
the one guy that's always the ex

3123
03:14:57,990 --> 03:15:01,800
CIA guys always bought there? I
don't have Bob here. The other

3124
03:15:01,800 --> 03:15:08,730
guy the Bolton, what's his
name's not gates. Some other guy

3125
03:15:08,730 --> 03:15:13,380
when he was McChrystal animala I
don't know if I said his name.

3126
03:15:13,410 --> 03:15:15,990
Oh, yeah, that guy. He's always
he's been scheming to be the

3127
03:15:15,990 --> 03:15:18,180
head of cyber for a while he's
written a couple books.

3128
03:15:19,170 --> 03:15:23,280
What's the matter, honey? Are
you Are you not feeling well?

3129
03:15:24,390 --> 03:15:27,690
Did Jaya John's fault. Yes. She
has a bola.

3130
03:15:29,790 --> 03:15:33,480
Nora going around again, which
looks a lot like Ebola.

3131
03:15:34,620 --> 03:15:38,010
So you don't know who that guy
is? Think of it later. Coming to

3132
03:15:38,010 --> 03:15:40,950
you from FEMA Region six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

3133
03:15:40,950 --> 03:15:41,430
curry,

3134
03:15:41,580 --> 03:15:45,180
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where it's I don't know what it

3135
03:15:45,180 --> 03:15:47,970
was the tide is out. I'm John C.
Dvorak. We'll

3136
03:15:47,970 --> 03:15:52,680
be back on Thursday right here.
On no agenda. Tell me about the

3137
03:15:52,680 --> 03:15:55,080
sexuality in your DNA.

3138
03:15:55,440 --> 03:15:58,860
It is scary and wretched and
miserable. It is gross.

3139
03:15:59,340 --> 03:16:00,450
And her head is gone.

3140
03:16:00,450 --> 03:16:05,310
We are here hashtag America near
our hashtag target soon, a full

3141
03:16:05,310 --> 03:16:09,270
range of increasingly affordable
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3142
03:16:09,270 --> 03:16:13,140
joined by John Gillan, Vice
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3143
03:16:13,140 --> 03:16:15,300
services. Thank you so much for
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3144
03:16:15,300 --> 03:16:16,110
joining us. Thanks,

3145
03:16:16,290 --> 03:16:17,850
Howard. By science,

3146
03:16:18,060 --> 03:16:20,640
there's a need for rescue
mission. When the world is

3147
03:16:20,640 --> 03:16:24,000
threatened. The world needs
help. calls on America

3148
03:16:30,330 --> 03:16:40,980
and that's the story. Adios
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