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throttle them. Let's throttle
them less throttle them. Adam

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curry, John C. Dvorak.

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It's Thursday November 13 2014.
Time for your gizmo nation media

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assassination episode 669 earth
this is no agenda enjoying the

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cyclogenesis here in FEMA Region
six in the capital of the drone

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Star State Austin chaos in the
morning everybody. I'm Adam

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curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
was a strain late stress strain.

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Nevermind, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Kill.

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Don't drink that little setup.
Don't drink before the show,

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man.

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I drink water.

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What did you want to say? What
did you want

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to say? There's this strange
liquid falling from the sky

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called Snow. I don't know what
it is. It's rain. It's raining.

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It's raining as we speak.

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34 degrees Fahrenheit here in
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Wow, nice. By the way, that high
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This is the first of all this is
global warming, obviously. No

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doubt about it. And I was I was
listening. Actually, I was

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watching Michio Kaku,

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I hate that guy. If you don't
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Him, He's entertaining because
he's a goofy.

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He's very goofy. And he said,
fool of himself to ask that I

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don't dislike

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Well, of course. So he's always
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Oprah's girlfriend and, and
Charlie Rose. Who was drunk

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still.

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Generally Yeah, Charlie, I think
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making so much money on that
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That's why he's drunk.

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And he's just tired. Here's you
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to do that show and yeah earlier

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No, no, you have to be there by
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I don't know he might not live
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city. It's okay if he comes from
outside and he's up at two

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hours. Okay, you got to get up
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Most people get up at 230 This
is no life. I've done morning

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radio shows in the morning radio
show. You can just fall out of

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bed you have to do hair and
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first joint before I was at the
studio was still it's a very

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challenging life because you
haven't you really have to go to

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bed at eight and I had to sleep
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Yeah, you can't wake everybody
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Alright, here's Kaku on talking
about this arctic blast. CBS

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News

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contributor Michio Kaku is with
us. He's at is a physics

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professor at the City University
of New York. Good morning.

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Morning. Tell us exactly what
this is.

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Well superstorm no repacks more
energy than Hurricane Sandy.

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Oh, it was not a hurricane you
aihole Sandy was a superstorm it

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was never a class it never
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they said more punch

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is headed our way and we are in
the bullseye. This weekend it's

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gonna plow into Alaska creating
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hell breaks loose gonna collide
with the Jetstream pushing

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arctic air all the way down
perhaps as low as Florida. Now

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remember the polar vortex of
last year?

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Yes, you've come up with a new
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Did he say ship polar vortex and
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Yes, because he knows that this
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come up with a new name. Because
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again last time it was a mistake
by the way. I don't think all

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hell has broken loose. It's cold
but all hell has broken loose.

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What kind of hell are we talking
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New York tomorrow. And I have no
no one's freaking out. Oh, hell

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has broke It's cold but not hell
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been cold before pushing arctic
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low as Florida. Now remember the
polar vortex of last year? But

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he laughed. He knew. I remember
that bowl. This is different.

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There's a name for this is
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geek talk for when pressures
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hot air cold air colliding. Like
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and the American Midwest.
Plunging temperatures perhaps

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three degrees below normal.

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When I looked this up this Bombo
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it is really just a different a
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is rapid or extreme.

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Will I but they changed the word
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funny. Yes, funnier.

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It's funny. Well, really it's
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which is characterized by
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millibars in a 24 hour period.
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vortex was that word was an
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with the with the jet stream and
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it's happening. It's just a name
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drift?

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just to sounds you know good
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can't actually give an
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that's what it is. This is what
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Genesis, but he can't actually
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can't use the polar vortex
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part of climate change, global
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as plunging temperatures perhaps
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Wow, best and worst case
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In the best case scenario simply
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and mufflers and just hunker
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Shelter in Place, it could mean
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are canceling flights left and
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You don't have to cancel a
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dressed up disrupted people's
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kilter. So we're talking about a
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Today John is pagan but it's
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of November longer

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we think this is gonna last
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stories today. I do not see
transportation. The I do not see

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airlines thrown in off kilter. I
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as a hey get this guy off the
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it's just it's just this is what
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the rest of the month and into
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well, it peaks mid week next
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pretty miserable weather
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both will probably be with us
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winner is going to be horrific
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Well, it means we're going to
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polar vortex and you know, used
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glowing.

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Now happened every year forever

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changing. It means that on
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violent swings. All right,
Professor Kaku with the bumbo

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Of course, it's it's all kinds
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must have gotten four clips off
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And then I'll get off of this is
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That's the reason for the
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today the house I think is
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have pro pipe liners in majority
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until January true. But this is
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getting started, ya know,

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as far as I know that. That
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Landrieu whose guy has a runoff
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jump into the fray. And she's
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the Senate because right now is
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the only time they can block it.
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makes sense. Makes sense? Well,
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facebook.com/carol, CNN.

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Woman I can never see again.

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She had an ad. Right. She had
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course, is a Democratic
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think he was an advisor to
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left right. bullcrap. But what I
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Carol, CNN, facebook.com/carol,
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actually global warming comes
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that the Earth has been cooling
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far as I know, from the evidence
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best a general stop in the in
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we're talking very infant
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I've seen says it is so cooling.
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professional work?

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Well, I mean, if you look at the
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you'll get one group that has
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show at schooling and then the
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numbers. Can somebody decide on
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be looking at, but from what I
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Well, regardless, Carol's
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journalist or a news reader or a
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problem is ROMs. friends in
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don't believe in climate change.
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believe in science. The new
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Chairman James Inhofe says God
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us to get involved with that,
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science, but we don't believe in
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right because the planet has
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not gotten warmer. But here's
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agree on. Oh, come on. Come on
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know we have 98% of scientists
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she's gotten instead of 97 Now
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scientists who are 2% Oh, I

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don't know date right and by the
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your source rush limbaugh was
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know this they're kind of this
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Is this your source Rush
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it. Well, here's what's
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you know, I still would like to
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who's your source Rush Limbaugh

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yeah. You're right. I I'm
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your source O'Reilly man can I
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All right. Well, if my sources
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of the argument, listen to this
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subtle propaganda. O'Reilly
slips on this idiot who's like,

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you know, presents these posts
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Republican victories and he's
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go Exelon administration.

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In China, President Obama has
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Chinese will work together, work
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by many to provoke global
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agreement historic. Others say
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from Macon, Georgia. Eric
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conservative blog red state.com.
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believer in global warning?
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billion years. So I would put
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camp. All right. So

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you feel it's a cycle of nature,
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nothing to do with it. If they
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miniscule, okay, now, you know,
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scientific opinion. And you
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always say, you can't prove it
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prove this. So it's foolish to
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So here's what he does. He slips
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the other guy who was obviously
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are you familiar with the
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climate scientists that say this
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was presented before Congress
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petition that was discussed in
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ignored her White House from
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it, ignored it. That's what he
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is no evidence. And then, of
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that the 97% number was derived
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Rush Limbaugh from Rush
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going on this is the discourse,
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government to reject the global
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astonishing debate and and knee
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this up one too many times for
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get out of this this way of
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anything quite as effective.
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Kurtz as its first executive
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fundraising campaign to grow the
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climate science legal defense
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there's got to be Koch brothers
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and this is relevant because
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confusing and problematic for
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against the climate change
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scientists. And of course, all
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20. is not supposed to be about
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because of this so called
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in Australia is all Oh, it's
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saved. But well, we had the
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there's always something going
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China, and he makes an agreement
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apparently is? Well, actually,
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explains it. Okay, let's play
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is it when you put together
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yesterday's deal on trade, given
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the US and China?

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information products is very,
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affect American business in a
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indeed is implemented in the
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agreement next year, this is a
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climate change deal, though,
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pretty vague in the White House
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news agency in their release,
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in 2030. So I got to make sure
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really is a deal here. And
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years, as Mitch McConnell says,
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McConnell, but you know, doing
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Did he did the report say
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There was two, you talk about
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was that was the day before they
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information. Oh, okay. So we did
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terrorists computers. Like that
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thought was good. The second
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with the climate change, that
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China the agreement is from the
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doing anything for 16 years.
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claim they're going to naturally
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they'll be done. Meanwhile, of
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of this sort of debate. So let's
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Glenn iPhone, with some guy from
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With the backdrop, we always
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the last chance before we won't
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irreversible. I gotta I gotta be
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this every year.

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three sixty.org?

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Right two parts per million,
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Jean as a surgeon here in
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online weather thingies and then
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the conditions are inside his
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inside his house. He's got like
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call him sometimes Are you dead?

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No, but he's winning the climate
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his house. That's the snakes
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playing?

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So we're playing at China, Gwen
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climate change. Whoo. Okay,

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Michael Oppenheimer is one of
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reports on climate change, and a
professor of Geosciences and

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International Affairs at the
Woodrow Wilson School at

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Princeton University. Welcome
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for having me how big a deal is
this deal? This is huge. As

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far as I'm concerned. There are
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the science, the science tells
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the climate Danger Zone, we've
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turned around, that is going
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sometime in the 2020 to 2030
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here of 2030 is consistent with
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something just interject this
danger zone climate science

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Defense Fund, just hired this
top lawyer. All right, you've

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been looking at this. Clips. You
know what this is? No, I'm

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listening to your clip I go on
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toenails.

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I don't never clip my toenails.
I should admit this way. Let me

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get this down climate science
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This organization is to was
started to quote, climate

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researchers are in need of
immediate legal assistance to

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prevent their private
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exposed. This Yeah, yeah,

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yes, about climate gate. Yes,
they're worried sick, that

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there's another smoking gun out
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scam for the individual
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if anything happens, you will be
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The scientific method is
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belief that skepticism is good
results should be subjected to

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the utmost scrutiny through the
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close examination and
replication by others in the

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scientific community. Those who
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to the standards of rigorous
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litigate. For the individual
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are a painful burden, especially
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Academic salaries were not
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legal expenses. Okay, I get it.
Yes, protect through a strict

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legal framework protect

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that is the smokescreen for
what's going on, which has got a

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big, big ass lawyer to come in
and do it. Okay. Yeah. And I'm

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sure that that lawyer will be
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then you like they mentioned,
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organization to a bunch of pros.
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All right. I'm sorry, I didn't.
It's important. All right. So

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I think I'm not complaining.
Okay. Yeah. So Glen comes out

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with this guy who thinks
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and he goes on and on. He says,
You should have well, the

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Chinese won't be doing anything
until 2030. But we're still

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we're still within the climate
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in the zone. So meanwhile, the
other guys are going away. This

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is crazy. You know, he can't let
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16 years. And that's some sort
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even going to do any anyone can
agree to not do anything. All

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right. That is a scam.

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Yeah, well, well, well,
deconstructed.

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Much as you can do. There was
some interesting other little

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things that came out of this
Chinese spy started analyzing

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this deals with China. The one
that was interesting is this

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one, I never knew this. This is
this the same guy. This is the

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clip China internal strife. I
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It's going to be very important
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agreements that it reached. And
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political system now is in
distress. Everyone says that si

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Jinping has quickly consolidated
control in Beijing. But there

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are too many symptoms of
problems, including the failure

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to dispose of the issue of Jo
Yong Kong, the former securities

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are and also this continuing
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part of flag officers, which
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disagreements in the People's
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Ping i don't think has the
consensus to be able to deal

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with the international community
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saw this in that really
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Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo
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breached one diplomatic protocol
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shows that there's real problems
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that they can't deal with a
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fashion. Hmm.

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Something's up. Oh Biden.

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I believe that. Can we stay in
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Well imagine is playing my last
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to this guy, which is some woman
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George W. HW bush of staff as a
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She's now a professor at UC San
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it's the NAB, it's

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the military farm team. The JV
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this interesting, she was really
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found something kind of
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And that raises another
interesting point. But Susan

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shirk, I do want to get your
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pressures and how they're
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think this relationship moves
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China? Well, I do think that Xi
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focused on domestic threats to
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communist party in power,
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society and economy over the
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contrast between what looks like
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confident China on the world
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Jinping in China, about the
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But I think she did well for
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so well, looking like, you know,
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responsible big power. And
that's going to resonate

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domestically as well. Just
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posturing thus. Yes, posh, she

455
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:16,080
did well, for himself. It's just
a great sentence.

456
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:21,030
Yeah, she's clean tonight from
the Clinton administration.

457
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:24,660
Rob Clinton. Okay, back to you,
right. Yeah, I remember.

458
00:27:25,770 --> 00:27:31,620
Okay, staying in Asia. first
clip, this is a we on the

459
00:27:31,620 --> 00:27:34,380
previous program, which we will
discuss in probably in our

460
00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:38,520
Christmas episode. We did some
live deconstruction, as it hit

461
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,110
me during a while we were
talking about the release of Bay

462
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:46,950
and Miller from North Korea. It
hit me that this guy who I had

463
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:50,910
seen, just out of the corner of
my eye Sugarman, David Sugarman.

464
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,170
And we actually researched it on
the air on the show, it turns

465
00:27:55,170 --> 00:27:59,610
out, he's a sports agent. And
this kind of explains a lot of

466
00:27:59,610 --> 00:28:02,550
why he might have been involved
in trying to get Kenneth Bay

467
00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:07,440
back now, Kenneth Bay. He is,
this is I'm learning a lot about

468
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,250
this, this particular little
thing that happened. He is a

469
00:28:11,250 --> 00:28:14,640
trader owns a travel company,
and although the State

470
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,970
Department and the officials
here, just say the straight

471
00:28:17,970 --> 00:28:21,120
department. Yeah, but that will
be wrong. I think I said the

472
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:23,910
State Department would be wrong.
We'll just call it the straight

473
00:28:23,910 --> 00:28:31,140
department from now on. He had
he had organized the Dennis

474
00:28:31,140 --> 00:28:32,070
Rodman trip.

475
00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:36,060
Oh, okay. Stayed on this idea.
Yeah. Well,

476
00:28:36,060 --> 00:28:39,000
I stayed on like a hot potato, I
stayed on it for a reason got a

477
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,570
big surprise, got a really big
one for information, man, new

478
00:28:42,570 --> 00:28:47,160
shit has come to life, got some
good stuff for you. And Sugarman

479
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,340
was along for the ride because
he represents Kenny Anderson,

480
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:59,610
who went to North Korea with
Dennis Rodman. So, so and this

481
00:28:59,610 --> 00:29:04,680
guy, Bey organized the trip, but
the straight department portrays

482
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:10,020
him as a missionary who tried to
overthrow the country by placing

483
00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:13,830
Bibles or something like that,
right. That was one

484
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:17,190
of the things I believe it was.
The other guy was one of the

485
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:19,170
guys was out missionary, the
other guy

486
00:29:19,170 --> 00:29:22,050
left the button. Well, there's
some new, some new information

487
00:29:22,050 --> 00:29:24,960
on the other guy, the Miller
kid, as we'll call him. So

488
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,930
here's a quick report on
Sugarman, who says something

489
00:29:27,930 --> 00:29:33,450
very interesting that he feels
that he is responsible for the

490
00:29:33,450 --> 00:29:36,240
return or at least partially, he
doesn't claim full

491
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,970
responsibility believes he's
partially responsible for the

492
00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:43,740
return of Bay, as he had, but he
really did the rounds. He went

493
00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:48,360
to the State Department, he went
to Hillary, even Charlie wrangle

494
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,960
I'm not quite sure what wrangle
has to do with it. But no, no,

495
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,280
no. And also, well listen to the
report for exactly two

496
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,740
years now. Tour Guide and
missionary Kenneth bay of

497
00:29:58,740 --> 00:30:01,650
Washington State has been in
prisoned in the North Korean

498
00:30:01,650 --> 00:30:04,410
labor camp system suspected of
trying to overthrow its

499
00:30:04,410 --> 00:30:07,650
government. And for nine months
New Jersey sports agent and

500
00:30:07,650 --> 00:30:10,530
political activist David
Sugarman has been pushing for

501
00:30:10,530 --> 00:30:13,830
his release after reaching out
to Bay's family and meeting with

502
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:18,180
them in New York. Today. They
told him ecstatic. I mean, they

503
00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:21,030
can't wait for him to come home
Sugarman led a social media

504
00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:24,030
campaign on Twitter and Facebook
today. He could celebrate by

505
00:30:24,030 --> 00:30:27,720
posting. We did it. We did it.
We brought Kenneth Bay back I am

506
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,560
in tears crying right now we did
it. I can't believe it. And the

507
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,500
family statement this ordeal has
been excruciating for the

508
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:37,980
family. But we are filled with
joy right now. Our Thanksgiving

509
00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:40,560
celebration this year will be
one we will never forget.

510
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,380
Sugarman met with everyone from
former Secretary of State

511
00:30:43,380 --> 00:30:46,650
Hillary Clinton to Jesse
Jackson, and Congressman Charlie

512
00:30:46,650 --> 00:30:49,950
wrangle, and he took this selfie
with the North Korean ambassador

513
00:30:49,950 --> 00:30:53,580
to the UN, who called him this
morning. He said to say thank

514
00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:57,810
you. And did you? I sure did.
Yes. No one can say for sure why

515
00:30:57,810 --> 00:31:00,150
bae and the other Americans have
been released, though there is

516
00:31:00,150 --> 00:31:03,750
some speculation North Korea is
worried about against it by the

517
00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:06,930
International Criminal Court
says former US ambassador to

518
00:31:06,930 --> 00:31:10,530
South Korea, Stephen Bosworth.
There are ways in which they can

519
00:31:10,530 --> 00:31:14,430
communicate with us largely
through their mission to the UN

520
00:31:14,430 --> 00:31:18,360
in New York, which is referred
to as the New York channel. As

521
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,240
for Sugarman, he says he may
have been just one part of an

522
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,480
effort by many to bring Bae
back. Oh, let's

523
00:31:24,540 --> 00:31:27,360
let's stop, okay, the New York
channel

524
00:31:27,570 --> 00:31:32,100
bullshit, and you'll find out
why. But so this guy is saying

525
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:33,780
there's the New York channel,

526
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:37,530
but wouldn't a New York channel
be done. And

527
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:43,860
interestingly enough, I received
an email from Uncle Don, who

528
00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:47,250
says Looking forward to seeing
you guys on Monday. I've been

529
00:31:47,250 --> 00:31:49,740
waiting. I'm going to New York
tomorrow. And we'll go on up to

530
00:31:49,740 --> 00:31:53,460
our mock to see him on Monday,
him and Meg. He says I was

531
00:31:53,460 --> 00:31:58,500
interviewed, as you know, Don
can't get he can't even walk on

532
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:04,260
a set of any mainstream media
news program because he's not on

533
00:32:04,260 --> 00:32:08,490
board with the message. And the
message is evil, frightening,

534
00:32:08,490 --> 00:32:13,260
scary. Crazy. So he did this
interview, it was some local

535
00:32:13,260 --> 00:32:18,030
public radio station. And so Don
said, I believe that's what he

536
00:32:18,030 --> 00:32:21,240
said, email, I believe you may
be able to use some clips on

537
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,080
your show.

538
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,930
While he's promoting himself for
UK as a clip, yeah. So that's

539
00:32:27,930 --> 00:32:29,400
actually a step in the right
direction.

540
00:32:29,850 --> 00:32:32,460
Let me get let me read it for
bit for Batum Hold on a second.

541
00:32:33,390 --> 00:32:36,840
And read his email is really it
was I was kind of blown away.

542
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:43,380
Let's see what he says here.
Here it is.

543
00:32:48,420 --> 00:32:52,560
Adam, this interview ran 20
minutes, it was excellent. I've

544
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,350
already had a call from someone
at UCLA who wants me to speak at

545
00:32:55,350 --> 00:33:01,650
a forum. You may find some use
for this on your podcast in form

546
00:33:01,650 --> 00:33:04,470
of clips. Looking forward to
seeing you

547
00:33:04,860 --> 00:33:07,380
listen much. Listen to the
podcast once in a while you

548
00:33:07,380 --> 00:33:08,670
wouldn't know about the clips.

549
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,920
Looking forward to seeing you
here at three ponds. Code code.

550
00:33:14,610 --> 00:33:17,160
So I listened this interview and
I posted the full interview in

551
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,580
the show notes. And I pulled a
couple clips from it. And I

552
00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:24,690
started to understand a little
better what had happened. And we

553
00:33:24,690 --> 00:33:30,690
have to go back to October 28
when the United Nations released

554
00:33:30,690 --> 00:33:36,210
their human rights report. This
is the I believe, as dawn will

555
00:33:36,210 --> 00:33:40,950
tell us correctly. This is the
the genesis of what happened as

556
00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:46,620
the United Nations released that
372 page report detailing

557
00:33:46,620 --> 00:33:50,490
brainwashing torture,
starvation, imprisonment for

558
00:33:50,490 --> 00:33:53,850
crimes such as questioning the
system or trying to escape it or

559
00:33:53,850 --> 00:33:58,590
secret Christianity in North
Korea. And they were and this

560
00:33:58,590 --> 00:34:03,630
report says we should call Kim
Jong on to account and we should

561
00:34:03,630 --> 00:34:10,170
hold them before the criminal
court. And it is Don's belief as

562
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,340
in some follow up emails that
this request for release came

563
00:34:14,340 --> 00:34:19,020
directly from Kim Jong on. Let's
just start with a little bit of

564
00:34:19,020 --> 00:34:20,970
background and these are all
reasonably sure I tried to make

565
00:34:20,970 --> 00:34:24,270
them as short as possible about
the gulags and this Miller kid.

566
00:34:24,570 --> 00:34:29,820
Apparently the Mueller kid was a
journalist. I'm pretty sure he

567
00:34:29,820 --> 00:34:35,790
was a spy. And he was there to
document the gulags. Right.

568
00:34:35,790 --> 00:34:39,810
Yeah, good idea. Yeah, so so he
had to be

569
00:34:40,170 --> 00:34:43,170
when we talked about this last
show, and we determined he was a

570
00:34:43,170 --> 00:34:43,650
spy.

571
00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:45,210
Here's, here's dawn.

572
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,710
Did he go to Berkeley by any
chance?

573
00:34:46,739 --> 00:34:47,609
I don't know.

574
00:34:47,969 --> 00:34:51,959
I think that the the entire
issue of the gulags and the

575
00:34:51,959 --> 00:34:56,969
prison camps is a matter of high
sensitivity to the North

576
00:34:56,969 --> 00:35:02,459
Koreans. I say that because I On
the 20th of October, I

577
00:35:02,459 --> 00:35:06,479
introduced Ambassador Johnny's
home of North Korea to the

578
00:35:06,479 --> 00:35:09,779
Council on Foreign Relations
where he spoke on the record

579
00:35:09,809 --> 00:35:13,679
about human rights in North
Korea. He took a lot of flack

580
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:18,449
from a human rights activists
there because he had been told

581
00:35:18,449 --> 00:35:23,039
what to say by Pyongyang. And he
could not really answer their

582
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:28,229
questions to their satisfaction,
but it was very clear that a

583
00:35:28,229 --> 00:35:31,739
matter of great sensitivity to
them was the possibility that

584
00:35:31,739 --> 00:35:37,439
the UN might take action to try
to indict Kim Jong on for crimes

585
00:35:37,439 --> 00:35:41,369
against humanity due to the
conditions in the in the gulags.

586
00:35:41,759 --> 00:35:46,079
So I don't know anything about
the what the young man in North

587
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:49,169
Korea was doing. But if they
thought he was going to try and

588
00:35:49,169 --> 00:35:52,439
get into a camp, that would be a
matter of great sensitivity to

589
00:35:52,439 --> 00:35:52,769
them.

590
00:35:54,570 --> 00:35:59,370
So there's done even before the
report came out with the report

591
00:35:59,370 --> 00:36:02,820
that the ambassador was already
already trying to run intercept

592
00:36:02,850 --> 00:36:06,720
interference before this report
was was was going on. Okay.

593
00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:11,220
Here's the New York connection,
that which now a reminder of

594
00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:15,900
that. Don was the ambassador to
South Korea, but he was also

595
00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:18,630
there during the Korean War,
Vietnam War. You've been around?

596
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:22,680
Yeah, he's over 180.

597
00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:25,890
I think the 8485 is pretty cool.
Yeah, here is the New York

598
00:36:25,890 --> 00:36:26,340
connection.

599
00:36:26,370 --> 00:36:30,450
I've made six trips to North
Korea. And in February, four of

600
00:36:30,450 --> 00:36:34,830
us all, representing PCI went to
North Korea and heard from them

601
00:36:34,830 --> 00:36:39,210
what their economic development
plans are, and have heard from

602
00:36:39,210 --> 00:36:41,880
them, they needed help in
developing these plans. So we've

603
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:47,130
been trying to be helpful on
that. And after the meeting, on

604
00:36:47,130 --> 00:36:50,400
the 20th of October was the
ambassador dying, I took him to

605
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,750
dinner, and said, You made it
clear that the prisoners have

606
00:36:54,750 --> 00:36:57,780
nothing to do with the human
rights issue in the north. I was

607
00:36:57,780 --> 00:37:01,980
glad to hear that. And I said,
this is absolutely the time to

608
00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:06,570
release those people. And so,
yesterday when I heard they had

609
00:37:06,570 --> 00:37:10,410
been released, I sent him a note
congratulating him and he

610
00:37:10,410 --> 00:37:13,320
responded an hour later said,
thank you very much. We talked

611
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,700
about that. And I tried to do
what you suggested. So that's

612
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:20,970
the kind of communication we
have. It's offline. I have no

613
00:37:20,970 --> 00:37:25,560
feedback whatsoever from the
Obama administration. I had none

614
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,730
from the Bush administration.
I've had no feedback from

615
00:37:29,730 --> 00:37:32,940
anybody in the White House since
I started going to North Korea,

616
00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:38,040
but I think it's been worth
doing and PCI now I think is a

617
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,950
fairly well trusted entity by
them. And I think they talk

618
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:42,150
fairly freely to us.

619
00:37:44,010 --> 00:37:45,840
Pretty often Brooks he's gone
rogue.

620
00:37:46,350 --> 00:37:53,190
Yeah, he is. And the PCI that's,
that's, that is, is? What is it?

621
00:37:54,180 --> 00:38:00,240
The project? That's the that's
the think tank he's in. Okay, so

622
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,700
it's a NGO? No,

623
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:05,220
it's not an NGO. It's a thing.
It's a think tank, but a

624
00:38:05,220 --> 00:38:08,820
business? It's a business front
for sure. Sure. What's not it's

625
00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:12,090
a it's a front. I'm saying that
from a different project concern

626
00:38:12,090 --> 00:38:14,820
International, they change the
name of like Pacific something

627
00:38:14,820 --> 00:38:16,920
or it doesn't matter. If Mr.
Frond is what

628
00:38:17,010 --> 00:38:21,030
he is not doing this completely
outside of the system. I don't

629
00:38:21,930 --> 00:38:26,970
make sense. Well, hold on. I'm
sure Obama's not you know, but

630
00:38:26,970 --> 00:38:29,850
uh, you know, they get their own
discrete department.

631
00:38:29,970 --> 00:38:36,780
Okay. Let me skip ahead. One.
He's going to talk about his

632
00:38:37,170 --> 00:38:41,190
trying to, I think the talks
about the well, let me try this

633
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:44,550
one first. So the question, of
course, is why does a former CIA

634
00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:47,670
guy while he Why is he
interested in going to North

635
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:48,150
Korea?

636
00:38:48,330 --> 00:38:50,910
So Donald Greg, I'm sure there
are people in our audience who

637
00:38:50,910 --> 00:38:57,660
were wondering why a former CIA
officer would feel compelled to,

638
00:38:58,740 --> 00:39:02,700
to, to feel that there's a need
to communicate with North Korea

639
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:06,000
and to get beyond the
demonization which seems to be

640
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,160
very popular in all

641
00:39:08,250 --> 00:39:10,110
minorities See, why don't want
to do the interview with this

642
00:39:10,110 --> 00:39:16,980
guy. British accent sounds
official. Yeah, no one no. Two.

643
00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:19,170
It's funny. No one will ever
hear the show except go through

644
00:39:19,170 --> 00:39:21,510
no business. People are gonna
hear it through us exactly.

645
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:23,430
Political and journalistic
circles.

646
00:39:24,450 --> 00:39:26,010
What a wonderful question.
That's,

647
00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:29,640
that's a new that's a variant by
the way, instead of great

648
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,910
question. That's a wonderful
question. You should use that.

649
00:39:32,939 --> 00:39:35,489
I love the fact you asked me
that. And the answer is very

650
00:39:35,489 --> 00:39:40,259
simple. I'd rather talk to them
and fight them. I was involved

651
00:39:40,259 --> 00:39:43,739
for four years in the in the war
in Vietnam, which we never

652
00:39:43,739 --> 00:39:48,179
should have fought. And I've
observed. You know what happens

653
00:39:48,179 --> 00:39:52,469
when we do demonize foreign
leaders that cost us and we

654
00:39:52,469 --> 00:39:55,289
certainly have demonized Kim
Jong Un calling him into

655
00:39:55,289 --> 00:39:59,399
question. From the moment he
appeared. The North Koreans

656
00:39:59,399 --> 00:40:03,119
think very hot I love him. When
I last went there in February

657
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:08,339
this year they, a Vice Foreign
Minister of Foreign Affairs said

658
00:40:08,399 --> 00:40:11,099
the sky's the limit under Kim
Jong Un and they think very

659
00:40:11,099 --> 00:40:15,479
highly of him. And I think this
decision to release the

660
00:40:15,689 --> 00:40:18,689
prisoners comes directly from
Kim Jong Un, I think it's the

661
00:40:18,689 --> 00:40:22,229
kind of decision he's going to
start making. He's going to be

662
00:40:22,229 --> 00:40:26,579
around for a long time. I think
we need to help him understand

663
00:40:26,579 --> 00:40:30,329
us better. And I think we need
to understand them better than

664
00:40:30,329 --> 00:40:33,449
we do. For more than a decade.
I've called North Korea the

665
00:40:33,449 --> 00:40:36,089
longest running failure in the
history of American

666
00:40:36,089 --> 00:40:37,169
intelligence. And that's how

667
00:40:37,170 --> 00:40:41,010
you stay off CNN dawn. This is
not, this is not how you get on

668
00:40:41,010 --> 00:40:41,580
the news.

669
00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:46,320
And I feel that that applies to
intelligence, organizationally,

670
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,660
and it also applies to us
intellectually.

671
00:40:49,140 --> 00:40:53,040
Now he's going to talk about the
previous times he has gone to

672
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:59,010
the White House, to no bearing a
personal message from the leader

673
00:40:59,010 --> 00:41:02,610
of North Korea for the
President. And this was George

674
00:41:02,610 --> 00:41:06,510
W. Bush, who and Don was a
Republican, he converted to

675
00:41:06,510 --> 00:41:09,150
Democrat and voted for Obama.
He's not very happy with his

676
00:41:09,150 --> 00:41:12,660
decision. And I don't think
boards these has indicated that

677
00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:17,400
to me anything but John McCain,
and yeah. And so when you are

678
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,030
Don Gregg, and you have a
message from the leader of the

679
00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:26,160
of North Korea, a handwritten
note to deliver to the

680
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:32,010
President, what do you think
happens? With bush? Yeah, w. And

681
00:41:32,010 --> 00:41:34,440
by the way, he that he was the
National Security Adviser for

682
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:37,110
W's dad for a Rite Aid. Yeah,

683
00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:41,700
yeah. Back in the day, right.
What would he do, he'd probably

684
00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:45,090
table it, just stick it in a
folder and say, I'll get back to

685
00:41:45,090 --> 00:41:46,470
you. It's worse,

686
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:50,040
I've been particularly
disappointed that Obama seems to

687
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,580
have inherited some of the worst
tendencies of the Bush

688
00:41:53,580 --> 00:41:57,990
administration. In that reason.
I had carried to the White House

689
00:41:57,990 --> 00:42:02,940
in 2002, a written offer from
North Korea, from Kim Jong Il to

690
00:42:02,940 --> 00:42:07,170
restart talks. I was in and out
of the White House in 20 minutes

691
00:42:07,170 --> 00:42:10,680
and Condoleezza Rice, his deputy
said, Oh, no, we won't talk to

692
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,660
them. That would be rewarding
bad behavior.

693
00:42:13,230 --> 00:42:18,210
He was kicked out by candies,
Assistant Assistant.

694
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,960
Whoa. And then you help you get
into the making the country he's

695
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,990
been, he's been marginalized.
He's totally here.

696
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,210
And we have now something called
strategic patience, which is

697
00:42:33,630 --> 00:42:36,780
actually the same thing, we're
sort of hoping that North Korea

698
00:42:36,780 --> 00:42:40,230
will implode and they're not
going to implode. And the longer

699
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:43,350
we don't talk to them, the
stronger their nuclear deterrent

700
00:42:43,350 --> 00:42:46,980
becomes, the North Koreans have
made it very clear to me that

701
00:42:46,980 --> 00:42:50,640
they want to talk to us. But
that until we sit down and

702
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,340
really talk to them without a
lot of preconditions, they're

703
00:42:53,340 --> 00:42:56,760
going to continue to strengthen
their nuclear deterrent. And so

704
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,720
I think the longer we wait to
talk, the deeper the pit, we're

705
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:03,180
into what we'll have to
eventually climb out of

706
00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:05,760
this. I think this is one of the
most important clips that we

707
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,350
have. And this is

708
00:43:07,620 --> 00:43:10,800
definitely an important clip.
And it tells me something else

709
00:43:11,370 --> 00:43:14,010
during the Bush administration
and continuing because he does

710
00:43:14,010 --> 00:43:17,100
make dimension that this that
whatever the policy is, I don't

711
00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:19,710
think he's aware of it. And I
don't think we are either there

712
00:43:19,710 --> 00:43:24,540
is something going on, there is
some plot afoot. There is some

713
00:43:24,540 --> 00:43:27,030
scheme it either has to do with
the South Koreans, it has to do

714
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:29,400
with oil, it has to do with the
Russians, it has to do with

715
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,430
something we don't aren't aware
of. It's almost like, you know,

716
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:37,830
hidden alien spaceships. A few
people know what it is, and

717
00:43:38,580 --> 00:43:41,670
nobody else does. And that's why
he got you know, we don't care

718
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:44,760
what these guys say we have
something in mind that we're not

719
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,630
talking about get out.

720
00:43:45,780 --> 00:43:48,960
Well, the two things. Yeah, of
course, the Chinese don't want

721
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,650
it to fall apart because they
don't want you know, a million

722
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,370
North Koreans walking into
China. I did see a note today

723
00:43:56,370 --> 00:44:00,840
that Lockheed and Raytheon are
going to sell $1.4 billion worth

724
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,890
of missiles to South Korea. So
it's always good to make the

725
00:44:04,890 --> 00:44:06,960
neighbor country afraid of

726
00:44:07,290 --> 00:44:10,560
that you sell bought a bowl
Chris, y'all, you know, the last

727
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,690
about two years and you gotta
buy another billion couple

728
00:44:12,690 --> 00:44:13,380
billion worth

729
00:44:13,410 --> 00:44:18,360
now when we see North Korea
portrayed on on our mainstream

730
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:24,330
news. It's always a nuclear
power, who have a crazy kid on

731
00:44:24,330 --> 00:44:24,780
the button.

732
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,620
Walking around goose stepping,
yeah,

733
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,460
he has done.

734
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,560
I think North Korea is not a
nuclear threat to anyone. I

735
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,350
think they they know that if
they used a nuclear weapon, they

736
00:44:37,350 --> 00:44:42,570
would be obliterated. But as you
say, if they get some others

737
00:44:42,570 --> 00:44:45,900
will be tempted to and there are
right wingers in South Korea who

738
00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:49,920
are already talking about
developing nuclear weapons,

739
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,580
something that I had a hand in
stopping when I was chief of

740
00:44:53,580 --> 00:44:55,560
station there in the mid 70s. So

741
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,890
this is I think that's part of
the plan is sell some junk to

742
00:44:58,890 --> 00:45:03,030
South Korea. Just making megive
me keep them up. We don't want

743
00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:03,900
any peace.

744
00:45:04,169 --> 00:45:07,949
You know, that is the simplest
explanation, which is usually

745
00:45:07,949 --> 00:45:12,299
the best explanation. There's a
lot of business to be done hecky

746
00:45:12,299 --> 00:45:16,259
selling crap to South Korea. And
if they if everything was hunky

747
00:45:16,259 --> 00:45:19,199
dory between the two countries
and they they got away from the

748
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:22,529
armistice, you know, they signed
it we actually finished the war

749
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:28,229
and they would there's all that
business something else

750
00:45:28,229 --> 00:45:31,259
interesting that I'm reading.
Maybe that's all there is to it.

751
00:45:31,289 --> 00:45:32,219
It's of no Well, there's

752
00:45:32,220 --> 00:45:35,460
a timeline there's a timeline
check this out. The US is

753
00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:40,170
scheduled to hand over command
of South Korea's wartime

754
00:45:40,170 --> 00:45:46,170
defenses in December 2015. So
missile defense capabilities are

755
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:53,790
vital. In June Bloomberg
reported pa three PAC three and

756
00:45:53,790 --> 00:45:56,220
Lockheed is longer range
Terminal High Altitude Area

757
00:45:56,220 --> 00:45:59,970
Defense system known as tad were
among the missile systems that

758
00:45:59,970 --> 00:46:03,630
South Korea's military was
eyeing it's a sales job. It's a

759
00:46:03,630 --> 00:46:04,590
fucking sales job.

760
00:46:04,620 --> 00:46:07,770
We get out you know, we take
over turning it over to you

761
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,950
know, you have to buy the gear.
Yeah. Because until then we're

762
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:12,630
buying our own gear, right.
Yeah,

763
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,100
that's what it seems like.

764
00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:16,980
Yeah, so we turn it over now.
We're gonna we're doing you a

765
00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:21,810
favor by the gear that we used
to bring in for free but makes

766
00:46:21,810 --> 00:46:24,330
Yeah, but make sure you're
really afraid of those guys up

767
00:46:24,330 --> 00:46:26,640
north and the crazy kid goose
stepping around.

768
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,750
I took complete and total scam,
two more clips. And that

769
00:46:30,750 --> 00:46:33,120
probably by the way is all well
then we

770
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,320
don't know any better. Because
this is the guy who I trust

771
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:42,120
more. And the fact that has been
marginalized in the media is

772
00:46:42,180 --> 00:46:44,910
endless. His book coming out.
He's not getting on CNN to

773
00:46:44,910 --> 00:46:46,620
promote his book like everybody
else,

774
00:46:46,650 --> 00:46:50,970
because he doesn't have they
won't book him Bacho pot shards

775
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,450
he's probably on about well,
there's that. There's a he's

776
00:46:54,450 --> 00:46:55,980
probably a blacklist.

777
00:46:56,609 --> 00:47:01,979
Yeah. And by the way, us playing
clips on our show was not

778
00:47:01,979 --> 00:47:02,879
helping his career.

779
00:47:04,290 --> 00:47:06,900
I don't think it's hurting it
because nobody is CNN listens to

780
00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:07,980
the no agenda show.

781
00:47:08,340 --> 00:47:09,480
Let's play two more.

782
00:47:09,630 --> 00:47:12,060
There's probably a few lesser
producers who do and then they

783
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,780
they sneak some of this stuff
in. But there they won't admit

784
00:47:15,780 --> 00:47:18,870
it. It's like almost no, it's
like driving around listening.

785
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:22,590
Let's bring back Rush Limbaugh.
If you put Rush Limbaugh on your

786
00:47:22,590 --> 00:47:25,620
radio, and it turned up, you're
not going to go through a drive

787
00:47:25,620 --> 00:47:28,980
thru at McDonald's with that
playing? Oh, geez, no one's

788
00:47:28,980 --> 00:47:29,760
gonna do it. No.

789
00:47:30,930 --> 00:47:35,850
So what Don is not I like this,
almost done this, this next

790
00:47:35,850 --> 00:47:40,860
clip, where he does say that to
totalitarian regime? And he

791
00:47:40,860 --> 00:47:41,160
says,

792
00:47:41,370 --> 00:47:45,480
Singapore, by the way, yes, we
love Singapore. And he's

793
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:46,050
explaining

794
00:47:46,050 --> 00:47:48,990
how you deal with them and how
you make things change.

795
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:53,159
And when people ask me why I
keep fooling around with, with

796
00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:53,999
the North Koreans, I've

797
00:47:54,030 --> 00:47:56,880
got nothing better to do beats
collecting stamps,

798
00:47:56,910 --> 00:48:00,960
I say not only I'd rather talk
but fight. I said my experience

799
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:06,000
is that totalitarian regimes and
North Korea is a totalitarian

800
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,050
regime. They change only when
they see that it is in their

801
00:48:10,050 --> 00:48:13,560
interest to change that happened
after Nixon reached out to

802
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,430
China. And it also happened
after George Herbert Walker

803
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:20,850
Bush, and Gorbachev worked
together to bring down the

804
00:48:20,850 --> 00:48:25,830
Berlin Wall. And changes took
place. And I think changes need

805
00:48:25,830 --> 00:48:30,510
to start to take place in North
Korea internally generated. And

806
00:48:30,510 --> 00:48:33,780
so I think these talks to the
North Koreans about their human

807
00:48:33,780 --> 00:48:38,430
rights problem are very valuable
if it translates into actions

808
00:48:38,430 --> 00:48:42,810
which they can take on their own
volition within their society to

809
00:48:42,810 --> 00:48:45,600
make it less represent less
repressive.

810
00:48:46,410 --> 00:48:48,030
He said reprehensible that's
what I

811
00:48:48,030 --> 00:48:51,450
thought he was gonna say.
Interesting. Well, I'm gonna ask

812
00:48:51,450 --> 00:48:54,900
him about this PCI saying I want
to find out what they're doing.

813
00:48:55,170 --> 00:48:58,560
Yeah, I think it's a it's a
business front and he wants to

814
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,510
help businesses get into North
Korea.

815
00:49:00,810 --> 00:49:04,380
Well, I here's what I you got
your PIN, I asked a question.

816
00:49:04,799 --> 00:49:08,609
I Oh, hold on. This is This
calls for an outline.

817
00:49:09,870 --> 00:49:14,670
Outline. I have like one
question, maybe two questions

818
00:49:14,670 --> 00:49:18,060
even pretty soon. So I have to
get my shoot, shoot, shoot, you

819
00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:21,780
know, the one I really want to
know is how serious is North

820
00:49:21,780 --> 00:49:25,230
Korea about creating a tourist
destination? So Well,

821
00:49:25,230 --> 00:49:30,570
that was on my list too. Okay,
creating a tourist destination,

822
00:49:30,570 --> 00:49:33,180
which seems to be the businesses
that are getting in Okay, that's

823
00:49:33,180 --> 00:49:35,370
question number one. You are
Yep, you're on the list

824
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,630
to buy was the ye doesn't really
go into much of an explanation

825
00:49:39,630 --> 00:49:43,830
about this character. Who were
the two guys that were were

826
00:49:43,860 --> 00:49:48,810
taken that were subsequently
released. Why was I can

827
00:49:48,810 --> 00:49:51,750
understand why they grabbed the
spy, because that was just too

828
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:54,270
obvious. Yeah, but why the other
guy he was responsible for the

829
00:49:54,270 --> 00:49:58,680
basketball thing. Good. Why, I
mean, it doesn't make sense

830
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,380
because that guy would be seen
as a good guy who set up the

831
00:50:01,380 --> 00:50:05,010
basketball game with the with
the Koreans versus the NBA

832
00:50:05,010 --> 00:50:07,680
players, right? The rest of it
right, right. Why was he taken

833
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,120
was he may be just taken? I
mean, I'm almost imagining since

834
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,170
a totalitarian state now this is
just a comedic thing, but I'm

835
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:18,630
imagining they get the guests as
you were very good bringing

836
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:25,140
those basketball guys over. You
now work for us. Could be I mean

837
00:50:25,140 --> 00:50:29,070
that I mean, that's a movie
script. Yeah. It's a James Bond

838
00:50:29,070 --> 00:50:32,040
story. But what I don't want to
work for you. I have a wife and

839
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,700
family I'm back. No, no, no, you
work for us. Now you bring more

840
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:39,870
basketball. You stay here in the
you very luxurious hotel. You

841
00:50:39,870 --> 00:50:40,620
stay you know,

842
00:50:40,650 --> 00:50:44,400
I think I think you're right.
And probably it was done out of

843
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,850
the goodness of someone's heart
like, hey, our fearless leader

844
00:50:47,850 --> 00:50:50,400
likes his basketball crap. Let's
get me on this. Get this guy on

845
00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:52,080
doing more of that.

846
00:50:54,210 --> 00:50:58,680
I mean, yeah, why else? Why else
was the guy grabbed? They knew

847
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:05,550
us unknown person. friendly to
the government. Right? That was

848
00:51:05,550 --> 00:51:08,220
actually a subtle fear of mine.
If I could get into with Kim

849
00:51:08,220 --> 00:51:09,120
Jong Il.

850
00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:10,050
Yeah. For the

851
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,470
for his wife, Oh, you're very
good with wine you stay.

852
00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:16,170
Recommend wine, not daily basis,
you

853
00:51:16,170 --> 00:51:19,500
label you label everything now.
Give rating,

854
00:51:19,950 --> 00:51:21,930
put down year with expiration.

855
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:26,250
Now as much as I liked Don, the
straight department and of

856
00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:30,780
course, he was often listed as a
civilian in the State

857
00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:35,040
Department. They're all laying
on Putin being crazy.

858
00:51:36,090 --> 00:51:40,350
revisionist Russia. And the last
question was about Russia,

859
00:51:40,770 --> 00:51:44,790
particularly as President Obama
was going to get his arm rubbed

860
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:48,510
up by Putin there. And in China,
funny captions by the way, if

861
00:51:48,510 --> 00:51:52,590
you look at my my Twitter feed,
did you see that picture of

862
00:51:52,590 --> 00:51:56,340
Putin rubbing Obama's arm? No,
no, it's very cute. It's kind of

863
00:51:56,340 --> 00:52:01,830
sexual. Anyway, strange. I'm
sorry, they asked you. Julian,

864
00:52:02,340 --> 00:52:05,430
don't worry about. So the
question I think was, hey, what

865
00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:09,510
about China and Russia and
everyone being played or Russia

866
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:12,000
and China are now teaming up
together? And what's the what's

867
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,450
the word

868
00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:16,770
as the conference that I
attended In? In? In the UK a

869
00:52:16,770 --> 00:52:20,370
couple of weeks ago, there were
some very intelligent senior

870
00:52:20,370 --> 00:52:25,140
Russians with whom I talked, and
I said, Look, I fought you guys

871
00:52:25,140 --> 00:52:29,520
and CIA all through the Cold
War, but I have huge amount of

872
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,720
respect for Russia.

873
00:52:31,260 --> 00:52:32,970
Imagine he actually did,

874
00:52:33,570 --> 00:52:35,430
hey, I'm sure he did. I

875
00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:39,090
fought you. And if this century
is going to be any better than

876
00:52:39,090 --> 00:52:43,140
our last, we have to find find
ways to work together on certain

877
00:52:43,140 --> 00:52:45,630
issues. And they said, Well, we
would agree with that. But

878
00:52:45,630 --> 00:52:48,870
you've got to, you've got a very
difficult situation with Putin

879
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:52,710
who is totally in control, and
has reawakened in the minds of

880
00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:55,380
the Russians and the hearts,
their hope of sort of

881
00:52:55,410 --> 00:52:59,250
international clout and
grandeur. And so we have a real

882
00:52:59,250 --> 00:53:03,330
problem coming there and what
role she is going to play will

883
00:53:03,330 --> 00:53:06,780
become clearer to us all, I
think, after Obama sees him on

884
00:53:06,780 --> 00:53:07,710
this trip to Asia.

885
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,490
I actually like how he
characterized that I, I can

886
00:53:14,490 --> 00:53:17,820
believe that Putin has awakened
something in the Russian people

887
00:53:17,820 --> 00:53:23,340
not necessarily revisionist
Russia have a days gone by, but

888
00:53:23,340 --> 00:53:25,170
I can see where there's a
patriotism.

889
00:53:27,630 --> 00:53:29,370
What brings me to an odd clip,

890
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,890
okay, that's all I got on Don.
Oh,

891
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,120
I got a couple of Putin clips
here about you know, they had

892
00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:40,320
about Ukraine, of course, see if
I can find it. And I

893
00:53:40,350 --> 00:53:44,580
unfortunately made too many
clips. I had Russia, blaming

894
00:53:44,580 --> 00:53:48,720
golf, Ukraine a quarter off
Woodruff. I think it's this way.

895
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,420
This is the LG zeroes report on
the Ukrainian situation, where

896
00:53:54,420 --> 00:53:57,390
they bring on a guy who this is
a little different take on

897
00:53:57,390 --> 00:54:00,510
things this is that the Russians
are actually encroaching, and

898
00:54:00,510 --> 00:54:04,770
they're lying about it. Only for
the Russian audience. They don't

899
00:54:04,770 --> 00:54:06,810
give a crap. But we think the

900
00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:10,470
most guys position since the
fighting began in eastern

901
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:13,860
Ukraine is to insist that it has
no military role in the

902
00:54:13,860 --> 00:54:17,040
conflict. So the defense
ministry has dismissed general

903
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,030
breed loves comments, calling
them alarmist and anti Russian.

904
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:24,420
It's a message probably meant
more for domestic ears than

905
00:54:24,420 --> 00:54:28,110
foreign ones. Most Russians have
no desire to see sons and

906
00:54:28,110 --> 00:54:31,350
brothers die fighting in
Ukraine. So pretending that

907
00:54:31,350 --> 00:54:35,700
there are no Russian soldiers as
long as the level of hostilities

908
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:39,120
allows such a pretense. Well,
that's about what Russia is

909
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,410
going to be doing that we're

910
00:54:40,410 --> 00:54:45,720
going to deny. With fighting
intensifying in recent days, the

911
00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:49,590
ceasefire agreed in Minsk
appears to be dead. Both the

912
00:54:49,590 --> 00:54:53,580
rebels and the Ukrainian army
are preparing for increased

913
00:54:53,580 --> 00:54:59,790
hostilities. We're seeing more
power coming into the hands of

914
00:54:59,790 --> 00:55:03,090
terror groups and Russia, we see
all their movements, their

915
00:55:03,090 --> 00:55:05,940
positions. And of course, we're
waiting for them to act. How can

916
00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:09,480
we react to their acts? I see it
as my aim to be ready to fight.

917
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,050
And this dovetails into a clip I
have. But I have a question,

918
00:55:13,110 --> 00:55:17,070
which is the one I asked
consistently. Why would Russia

919
00:55:17,070 --> 00:55:21,780
do that? For what reason for to
what and for what good for? What

920
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,150
would they do? Why come in?

921
00:55:24,270 --> 00:55:27,420
Why would they send in this is
this and it's not just for the

922
00:55:27,420 --> 00:55:31,440
Russian audience. CNN is all
over this. Russia, Russia,

923
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,630
Russia, Russia, Russia, it's all
you hear all day long, Russia,

924
00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:38,250
Russia, Russia. Why does anyone
say why? What is the point of

925
00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:41,490
this stupid ass country, which
not really fully gay, they're

926
00:55:41,490 --> 00:55:45,330
only in if they're in if they're
in we I

927
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,940
think it is possible that
they're in only to be a

928
00:55:47,970 --> 00:55:51,300
defensive major because the
Ukrainian army is going to come

929
00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:54,870
in again, and start realizing
the place which is and if we

930
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:59,640
consider the fact and wish they
been doing defensive outliers,

931
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,140
just those two areas. And
because we're behind the entire

932
00:56:04,170 --> 00:56:09,690
Ukraine revolution, which the
porch, the porch we did, we

933
00:56:09,690 --> 00:56:14,280
screwed the pooch. We are
internalizing what the Russians

934
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,400
may be there as they've set up
some barriers that keep that

935
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,650
from happening. They don't have
any interest in seeing this

936
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,150
happening right on their border.

937
00:56:21,330 --> 00:56:24,570
So in your clip, they mentioned
what Breedlove had said

938
00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:27,930
Breedlove is the new the Allied
commander and believes

939
00:56:27,930 --> 00:56:30,510
is CO and Professor Cohen who
will use all commonly on the

940
00:56:30,510 --> 00:56:32,850
show who believes is just full
of crap.

941
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,810
Well wait until you hear this
report that this is broth this I

942
00:56:36,810 --> 00:56:39,090
got this yesterday and then I'll
follow it up with a clip from

943
00:56:39,090 --> 00:56:44,040
this morning. Because the word
has gone out. Okay, ranch, ramp

944
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,510
it up, ramp it up. Fuck Russia,
ramp it up, ramp it up. It's

945
00:56:48,510 --> 00:56:50,220
really, really disgusting. This.

946
00:56:51,810 --> 00:56:55,980
Russian tanks and Russian troops
are rolling across the border.

947
00:56:55,980 --> 00:56:58,860
Russia denies it. But now
there's an ominous warning from

948
00:56:58,860 --> 00:57:01,680
Ukraine's defense minister,
talking about the Russian

949
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:06,570
military moves and I'm quoting
now expect unexpected actions on

950
00:57:06,570 --> 00:57:10,470
their part. I think the main
task is to prepare for fighting

951
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:11,070
that. Okay.

952
00:57:11,130 --> 00:57:15,510
So let's just summarize.
Abramoff says Russian tanks,

953
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:19,680
Russian troops. Russia denies
it. They don't have proof but

954
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:25,590
Russian true and then they quote
the Ukrainian defense minister

955
00:57:25,620 --> 00:57:26,700
newly appointed

956
00:57:28,530 --> 00:57:31,950
by the way he's got sorry, it's
got nice outfits got three stars

957
00:57:31,950 --> 00:57:33,810
a bunch of crazy looking things
all over.

958
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,710
Oh, the Ukrainian guy. Yeah.
Okay. Well, then you're talking

959
00:57:37,710 --> 00:57:38,670
about Breedlove, right?

960
00:57:38,910 --> 00:57:41,940
No, no, our defense guy the
Ukrainian guys got Yeah, he's

961
00:57:41,940 --> 00:57:43,470
got scrambled eggs all over

962
00:57:43,470 --> 00:57:45,720
them. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice.
Pretty nice. Now here comes

963
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:46,080
greetings

964
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,560
from the Ukrainian defense
minister. Our CHIEF NATIONAL

965
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,990
SECURITY CORRESPONDENT Jim
Sciutto. is working just shortly

966
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:56,820
for us. This is pretty alarming.
I've spoken with Ukrainian

967
00:57:56,820 --> 00:57:57,630
officials in Kyiv.

968
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,480
Don't mention no names, never
unnamed. Just I spoke with some

969
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,280
officials spoke to some dudes
got some guides or whether

970
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,630
you're talking today. There's
tremendous

971
00:58:03,630 --> 00:58:06,270
alarm. And I think you can say
outrage at these Russian moves.

972
00:58:06,270 --> 00:58:08,280
Because you remember yesterday,
there was another one of these

973
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,490
humanitarian convoys that went
across without inspection. And

974
00:58:11,490 --> 00:58:14,220
both Ukrainian and Western
officials say you know, these

975
00:58:14,220 --> 00:58:17,040
need to be inspected before you
go. And now today you have the

976
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,760
Russians brazenly openly sending
in arms and we're talking about

977
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,540
artillery tanks, and NATO
believes Russian forces. I spoke

978
00:58:24,540 --> 00:58:26,730
to an official and Ukrainian
foreign ministry who says that

979
00:58:27,660 --> 00:58:29,400
it's the belief of the foreign
ministry that Russia is

980
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,160
preparing for a major offensive
by the pro Russian separatists

981
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,590
in eastern Ukraine, I want you
to listen to the NATO Supreme

982
00:58:34,590 --> 00:58:36,420
Allied Commander General Philip
Breedlove,

983
00:58:36,569 --> 00:58:42,479
we see forces that are capable
of being nuclear that are being

984
00:58:42,479 --> 00:58:43,559
moved to Crimea.

985
00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:49,379
Okay. Now, we see forces that
are capable of being nuclear,

986
00:58:49,410 --> 00:58:51,810
anything is capable. This is

987
00:58:51,810 --> 00:58:56,400
the point in a jeep and an
Abaqus. So he's also he's also

988
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,550
saying Crimea, which is where
the Russians traditionally have

989
00:58:59,550 --> 00:59:04,380
had their port and they've had
their their base there. And of

990
00:59:04,380 --> 00:59:06,600
course, there was the illegal
completely outrageous

991
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,210
encroachment of all borders, who
had the Crimea and said, Yeah,

992
00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:11,520
we want to be part of Russia.
Okay, I'm not gonna debate that

993
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:17,190
but for this guy, breed love.
The head honcho the copy to to

994
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:23,640
to copy the dude of the NATO
forces to propagate such

995
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:29,220
propaganda of capable Yeah, it's
like being pre cancer, pre

996
00:59:29,220 --> 00:59:34,470
cancerous. Of course, I'm also
pre nuclear. This is in the

997
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:37,350
report, really. It's just crazy
listening to

998
00:59:37,350 --> 00:59:39,150
Allied Commander General Philip
Breedlove.

999
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:45,210
We see forces that are capable
of being nuclear that are being

1000
00:59:45,210 --> 00:59:49,200
moved to Crimea, whether they
are or not, we do not know. But

1001
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,880
they guys gotta go kind of just
got their movement there that

1002
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,320
could support that mission.

1003
00:59:55,350 --> 00:59:57,840
They got equipment there that
could support that mission if

1004
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:58,380
required.

1005
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,950
All right mission what are they
gonna do

1006
01:00:02,010 --> 01:00:06,030
the nuclear mission to try
everybody blow up? Yes but treat

1007
01:00:06,060 --> 01:00:09,420
Friday Friday basically

1008
01:00:09,420 --> 01:00:09,810
do

1009
01:00:09,870 --> 01:00:13,230
we annexed it's now part of
Russia but if they're moving

1010
01:00:13,230 --> 01:00:15,540
nuclear military equipment

1011
01:00:15,870 --> 01:00:20,700
jumped to the actual doing it
remote possibility because it's

1012
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:24,450
capable now oh this this
actually I'm glad I don't have

1013
01:00:24,450 --> 01:00:25,470
CNN anymore

1014
01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:26,220
Goodman

1015
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,970
military, you know CNN so if you
want some someone's gotta watch

1016
01:00:29,970 --> 01:00:31,350
it now watch the blaze

1017
01:00:31,770 --> 01:00:36,600
for military equipment capable
of using nuclear material that

1018
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,900
would be an ominous mood of a
whole bunch of levels you can

1019
01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:42,150
imagine this is based where I'd
say

1020
01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:45,660
some what Yeah, so called on

1021
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:48,750
Russia moving in both MiG
fighter aircraft as well as to

1022
01:00:48,750 --> 01:00:49,710
pull off bombers.

1023
01:00:49,770 --> 01:00:53,040
Yeah, airplanes are nuclear
capable. Yes.

1024
01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:54,750
into Crimea, which as you say
that.

1025
01:00:55,620 --> 01:00:58,590
That's so that's what that's
what they're that's what they're

1026
01:00:58,620 --> 01:01:02,670
they mean by nuclear capable
machinery? Anything?

1027
01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:05,280
Yeah. Well, it could be a tank.
Do they have these shells that

1028
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,260
you know, that can be a mini
nuke STAY WITH US

1029
01:01:07,260 --> 01:01:11,010
illegally. It is not known that
they have nuclear weapons on

1030
01:01:11,010 --> 01:01:13,980
board haven't been observed by
us satellites. But we know that

1031
01:01:13,980 --> 01:01:17,160
they're their nuclear capable.
And this has always been the Kim

1032
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:17,760
Kardashian is

1033
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,290
ASOs nuclear capable.

1034
01:01:20,940 --> 01:01:22,500
It's true as a matter of fact,

1035
01:01:22,860 --> 01:01:25,950
us in terms of monitoring these
Russian moves. They don't know

1036
01:01:25,950 --> 01:01:28,020
what Russia intends to do. And
they know what they're capable

1037
01:01:28,020 --> 01:01:30,360
of doing. But they don't know if
they have the intent to actually

1038
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,170
deployed. So what

1039
01:01:31,170 --> 01:01:39,300
you hear is an instigated by the
United Nations war machine. This

1040
01:01:39,450 --> 01:01:41,670
was capable is capable could
have could be not sure who

1041
01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:43,710
capable capable could be noop
noop, noop, noop, noop, noop

1042
01:01:43,710 --> 01:01:47,040
noop noop? No, this is not
journalism. This is not

1043
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:47,640
journalism,

1044
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,450
nuclear weapons there. Again,
speaking with Ukrainian foreign

1045
01:01:51,450 --> 01:01:54,390
ministry officials, this is what
they believe is happening. The

1046
01:01:54,390 --> 01:01:56,580
conventional force is going
across the border into eastern

1047
01:01:56,580 --> 01:01:58,890
Ukraine to prepare for a new
offensive by pro Russian

1048
01:01:58,890 --> 01:02:02,490
separatists. These forces in
Crimea meant to be something of

1049
01:02:02,490 --> 01:02:06,090
a flanking move to tell the
Ukrainians we got you backed on

1050
01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:09,930
two sides from the east and from
the south. And you know, when

1051
01:02:09,930 --> 01:02:13,920
you think in those terms, we'll
listen to Wolfram broth wrap it

1052
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,200
up. No other words you can call
this but a war, right?

1053
01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:19,890
War, it's a war. It's a war
installation, etc.

1054
01:02:20,070 --> 01:02:21,660
But but there's really this.
There's a war

1055
01:02:21,689 --> 01:02:24,509
guys business. He's NATO. He's
got nothing to do with these two

1056
01:02:24,509 --> 01:02:25,079
countries.

1057
01:02:25,140 --> 01:02:27,540
These wars going on in eastern
Ukraine. Right, I did hear the

1058
01:02:27,540 --> 01:02:30,540
NATO Supreme Allied Commander
raised that possibility that

1059
01:02:30,540 --> 01:02:33,240
they might even be bringing in
equipment that could use nuclear

1060
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,970
weapons. That's an ominous
question, and would violate half

1061
01:02:35,970 --> 01:02:36,600
a dozen treaties.

1062
01:02:36,990 --> 01:02:40,860
No. They're not NATO's point
that out,

1063
01:02:40,980 --> 01:02:44,970
Ukraine gave up its nuclear
arsenal in order to get its

1064
01:02:44,970 --> 01:02:47,580
independence, if you will, and
if you will, moved all those

1065
01:02:47,580 --> 01:02:50,220
nuclear weapons out. The
Russians promised at the time,

1066
01:02:50,220 --> 01:02:53,070
they would never undermine
Ukrainian sovereignty. How's

1067
01:02:53,070 --> 01:02:53,550
that working out?

1068
01:02:54,300 --> 01:02:58,260
How's that working out? How's
that working out? Dr. Fauci.

1069
01:02:58,290 --> 01:03:00,360
Thanks so much, as always, for
joining

1070
01:03:00,540 --> 01:03:04,740
us meddling. Good to be here
both. Good to be here. Dr. Fauci

1071
01:03:04,740 --> 01:03:08,340
was on another show recently,
we'll get to that. Okay, well,

1072
01:03:08,790 --> 01:03:11,700
before we get to that, I'd sure
like to take a break here.

1073
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,300
Okay, I just wanted I wanted to
wind it up with my last

1074
01:03:15,630 --> 01:03:18,390
meal, then wind it up. That's
what I was going to do. Well,

1075
01:03:18,390 --> 01:03:21,240
you know, you were gonna talk to
Doc by Dr. Fauci. That was just

1076
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:22,080
the broth thing.

1077
01:03:22,650 --> 01:03:30,570
Okay. I wanted to play the this
morning's propaganda on CNN. So

1078
01:03:30,570 --> 01:03:35,820
what possibly could be funnier
and not true than nuclear

1079
01:03:35,820 --> 01:03:43,050
capable machinery being moved
into Crimea? How about Russian

1080
01:03:43,050 --> 01:03:48,870
bombers? Next up to flying over
the Gulf of Mexico. I think I've

1081
01:03:48,870 --> 01:03:51,780
got a better version of the
clip. Alright. Tell me which one

1082
01:03:51,780 --> 01:03:52,980
it is? Well, it's

1083
01:03:52,980 --> 01:03:53,970
up there. It says.

1084
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,010
Oh, airplane and golf. Here we
go. That's Roulot. Now Russia

1085
01:03:59,010 --> 01:04:03,000
has said it plans to send long
range bombers on flight patrols

1086
01:04:03,030 --> 01:04:06,150
over North American waters
including the Gulf of Mexico.

1087
01:04:06,180 --> 01:04:09,630
The aim it says to secure the
country's military presence over

1088
01:04:09,630 --> 01:04:12,510
the West Atlantic eastern
Pacific and the Caribbean and

1089
01:04:12,510 --> 01:04:15,870
Gulf of Mexico it comes just
days after NATO singled out some

1090
01:04:15,870 --> 01:04:19,530
Russian incursions into European
airspace with some aircraft

1091
01:04:19,530 --> 01:04:22,950
flying what it called
provocative routes the US though

1092
01:04:23,130 --> 01:04:27,300
playing down Moscow's plan
missions as routine training in

1093
01:04:27,300 --> 01:04:31,170
international airspace so that's
that's that clip was actually

1094
01:04:31,740 --> 01:04:34,440
too decent. That's not good

1095
01:04:34,650 --> 01:04:37,980
clip is Ridgeway my clip
actually has the punch line but

1096
01:04:37,980 --> 01:04:42,510
go ahead play your clip that is
probably more sensational.

1097
01:04:42,540 --> 01:04:45,270
Yeah, we have to start off by
this Russia. You're going to

1098
01:04:45,540 --> 01:04:50,310
this is how you start off the
the item Russia, Russia,

1099
01:04:50,340 --> 01:04:54,150
Russia, Russia is flexing its
military muscle it would appear

1100
01:04:54,330 --> 01:04:57,420
it would appear is planning to
send long range bombers to

1101
01:04:57,420 --> 01:05:00,300
patrol the Gulf of Mexico and
the Caribbean. That would bring

1102
01:05:00,300 --> 01:05:04,560
the flights close to the US to
comfort to close rather for come

1103
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:04,740
from

1104
01:05:05,700 --> 01:05:08,100
very close it's right here in
the context here

1105
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,820
and then the picture from Getty
Images yes some Obama tuple F

1106
01:05:14,820 --> 01:05:19,260
bomb or black and white pictures
information which prop they

1107
01:05:19,260 --> 01:05:22,710
needed sound effects exactly
hold on we need we need prop

1108
01:05:22,710 --> 01:05:30,210
sounds do I have props it's
really really really it's not

1109
01:05:30,660 --> 01:05:30,870
it's

1110
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:37,470
well it comes after NATO warned
Russia about moving combat

1111
01:05:37,470 --> 01:05:41,160
troops into eastern Ukraine
tensions very

1112
01:05:41,220 --> 01:05:44,760
very high or bringing tensions
very very hot

1113
01:05:44,819 --> 01:05:48,599
argument where you say those
bombers your this was right

1114
01:05:48,629 --> 01:05:52,559
after you as though there's a
connection there's no connection

1115
01:05:52,709 --> 01:05:53,159
and then they

1116
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,400
bring on some douche now the
thing with CNN and I'm sure the

1117
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:02,190
blaze does it as well all of
these former retired guys

1118
01:06:02,460 --> 01:06:07,920
they're all consultants to
companies that either directly

1119
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:14,100
manufacture weaponry or our
think tanks that help

1120
01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:15,780
manufacture that help

1121
01:06:16,050 --> 01:06:19,950
yeah no they bring in a
professor or somebody who's just

1122
01:06:19,950 --> 01:06:24,030
studying this problem Oh it's
always former Colonel when they

1123
01:06:24,030 --> 01:06:26,820
bring him on he they won't bring
him on anything else because

1124
01:06:26,820 --> 01:06:29,250
he's like he's a he's a Negative
Nelly

1125
01:06:29,790 --> 01:06:33,990
not on board not on board. Or
like Don you know,

1126
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,940
a point about this. I just my
clip was better because it said

1127
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,450
that nobody in the White House
our own government said this is

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01:06:42,450 --> 01:06:46,920
just a routine flight over
international airspace is a

1129
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,210
routine exercise which is

1130
01:06:48,300 --> 01:06:51,600
which is also we have the open
skies agreement right and then

1131
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,110
it's just a routine extra we do
this yes, we fly over Russia.

1132
01:06:55,110 --> 01:06:57,090
It's part of the Open Skies
agreement. Yes.

1133
01:06:57,210 --> 01:07:00,870
So you don't meet so you put
these to us at this is just

1134
01:07:01,290 --> 01:07:04,740
trying to scare the American
public to so they can be

1135
01:07:04,740 --> 01:07:05,970
manipulative. Not

1136
01:07:05,970 --> 01:07:10,170
only will I admit that your clip
was better, I will also say

1137
01:07:10,830 --> 01:07:12,870
thank you for your courage. And
in the morning to you John

1138
01:07:12,870 --> 01:07:16,380
C. Dvorak. I was wondering if
you'd ever asked in the morning

1139
01:07:16,380 --> 01:07:18,630
to you Adam curry in the morning
and all ships at sea boots on

1140
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:20,790
the ground feet in the air subs
in the water and all the days

1141
01:07:20,790 --> 01:07:21,660
and nights out and in

1142
01:07:21,660 --> 01:07:24,870
the morning to all of our human
resources there in the chat

1143
01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:28,590
room. No agenda stream.com in
the morning to our artists.

1144
01:07:29,070 --> 01:07:34,350
Thank you Nick the red for the
album art for episode 668 no

1145
01:07:34,350 --> 01:07:37,920
agenda art generator.com is
where you can the newly revamped

1146
01:07:38,490 --> 01:07:42,000
generator where you can find all
of the art Deb it's apparently

1147
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,150
much easier now for artists they
can choose from two different

1148
01:07:45,150 --> 01:07:48,600
templates or not use a template
and nor make their own and it's

1149
01:07:48,660 --> 01:07:53,640
an it's based on Drupal,
headless, headless, no.

1150
01:07:55,380 --> 01:08:00,840
Your head was gone. Oh, hey, you
should have dropped in

1151
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,370
one of these days we should get
you a sad

1152
01:08:03,690 --> 01:08:08,010
thing here you Adam. Adam to her
Drupal is here the head of her

1153
01:08:08,010 --> 01:08:08,280
head

1154
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:14,970
is gone. All right. Wow. So,
yes. So, finding and playing

1155
01:08:15,060 --> 01:08:18,750
this type of material on our
program is not in line with the

1156
01:08:18,750 --> 01:08:23,190
commercial interests of most
advertisers and or groups who

1157
01:08:23,190 --> 01:08:27,210
will go after your advertisers
if you do not adhere to their

1158
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:31,260
strict political correctness or
other forms of cultural Marxism.

1159
01:08:31,470 --> 01:08:34,200
And therefore we have chosen for
a value for value model which

1160
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,530
means not only are we produced
by a global intelligence network

1161
01:08:37,620 --> 01:08:40,590
around the world, but also
financially supported by them.

1162
01:08:40,590 --> 01:08:43,080
So who is supporting us for
today as

1163
01:08:44,609 --> 01:08:48,359
today's little light Oh, and we
have a wildly after that

1164
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,570
newsletter where you said hello,
it's been light. Yeah,

1165
01:08:51,599 --> 01:08:55,289
yeah, I didn't say it right
apparently. is it's a tray is a

1166
01:08:55,289 --> 01:08:58,349
technique trick to do it could
get anyone to actually read the

1167
01:08:58,349 --> 01:09:01,289
newsletter and the famous words
I think, by the way, one of my

1168
01:09:01,289 --> 01:09:05,699
problem is, is I didn't have a
picture attached. Oh, seems to

1169
01:09:05,699 --> 01:09:11,309
be what people care about most.
You know. He bought me a picture

1170
01:09:11,309 --> 01:09:15,359
when you're in New York have
yesterday they having a cigar.

1171
01:09:15,389 --> 01:09:15,539
Let me

1172
01:09:15,539 --> 01:09:19,829
tell you, yes. Oh, for sure.
Yesterday, Mickey did a photo in

1173
01:09:19,829 --> 01:09:25,889
the garage, photoshoot. naked
chicks like naked. Yeah. And you

1174
01:09:25,889 --> 01:09:28,289
know me, it's like, and so we
have a door on the other side.

1175
01:09:28,409 --> 01:09:32,969
You know, no, no, no, I'm not
allowed to not get through the

1176
01:09:32,969 --> 01:09:36,839
peephole. No, no, I've been
trained. I do not I don't even

1177
01:09:36,839 --> 01:09:39,959
glance over because it can make
them nervous. Whatever. I'm very

1178
01:09:39,959 --> 01:09:43,529
proper. This is Mickey's
business. I'm proper. And then

1179
01:09:43,559 --> 01:09:47,159
you know, so like, two hours go
by. And then there's a knock on

1180
01:09:47,159 --> 01:09:51,299
my studio door. And it's sir
Jean, who apparently has been

1181
01:09:51,299 --> 01:09:54,389
doing lights during this entire
shoot. What

1182
01:09:55,650 --> 01:09:58,770
is how did he manage I'll come
and do lies

1183
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:05,610
Do likes to if he's like, man,
like Oh, can you help me find

1184
01:10:05,610 --> 01:10:11,040
the tea? I gotta make tea for
every lot of funny story that's

1185
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,430
messed up. So we'll get a
picture of Jean in the studio

1186
01:10:14,430 --> 01:10:16,170
with a naked models about Yeah.

1187
01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:22,590
All right, I'll thanks a few
people to get this finished.

1188
01:10:22,830 --> 01:10:26,820
Because not much to do here.
Anonymous Baron $333.33 from

1189
01:10:26,820 --> 01:10:29,580
Jamaica Payne, Massachusetts
make Jamaica Plain

1190
01:10:29,790 --> 01:10:33,030
Massachusetts. And this is a
contribution toward Tom

1191
01:10:33,060 --> 01:10:35,670
Canberras posthumous knighthood
oh yeah,

1192
01:10:35,700 --> 01:10:41,910
this is this has been really
this has been really nice to

1193
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:42,450
see.

1194
01:10:43,019 --> 01:10:45,389
Yeah, there's a bunch and I
think we're almost there.

1195
01:10:45,389 --> 01:10:48,959
According to Eric, he's got it
down to like seven or $800 so

1196
01:10:48,959 --> 01:10:52,619
far. So take a look at Eric's
node. Tom, Tom Kuhn, Berra by

1197
01:10:52,619 --> 01:10:56,759
the way KU era. And if anyone
doesn't remember, you can

1198
01:10:56,759 --> 01:11:00,659
actually Oh, I got I got a note
from Angela because 757 of the

1199
01:11:00,659 --> 01:11:04,259
757 I got a note from from
Angela.

1200
01:11:04,710 --> 01:11:10,800
Let me see if I have it. Here.
She She's also really blown away

1201
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,170
by by what's happening home on
one so you've just got a minute

1202
01:11:13,170 --> 01:11:18,480
I can I think I can retrieve it
here. Yeah, put it in my notes.

1203
01:11:19,260 --> 01:11:22,710
I when I saw this, I was like,
wow, that's gone pretty quickly.

1204
01:11:24,570 --> 01:11:27,030
Hey, Adam, and John. I want to
thank the listeners gave towards

1205
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:30,510
my husband Tom's passing his
knighthood on Sunday show. And

1206
01:11:30,510 --> 01:11:33,090
then she so she's thanking the
ones that she heard on Sunday

1207
01:11:33,090 --> 01:11:37,050
show Taylor Casella, Daniel
Torello Bill Hartnett and Carol

1208
01:11:37,050 --> 01:11:40,140
Garrett. Of course there's many
more that came in today. I'm

1209
01:11:40,170 --> 01:11:42,600
forever grateful for your
thoughtfulness, generosity and

1210
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,760
kindness. I was so touched when
I heard these donations being

1211
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,690
read on the show. My husband Tom
would love this. I'm sure he

1212
01:11:48,690 --> 01:11:51,240
knows somehow and is smiling.
Yeah, but yeah, we

1213
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,570
have on the list of for Angela
Canberra, which is her Taylor

1214
01:11:54,570 --> 01:11:59,970
Costello. Daniel Terrell telio
Bill Hart net Brett Phegley Sir

1215
01:11:59,970 --> 01:12:04,800
John Adams, Carol Garrett, Sir
David drawl and anonymous Baron

1216
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,950
who just came in right now and
sort of gray fantast so that's

1217
01:12:07,980 --> 01:12:11,940
the list and we're up to 757 So
I get the next show probably.

1218
01:12:12,330 --> 01:12:16,350
And when it's great it's really
just kind of touching. Okay, so

1219
01:12:16,350 --> 01:12:18,540
should executive producers for
today's show we got three of

1220
01:12:18,540 --> 01:12:22,320
them. Dame Joan data free in
Morgantown, West Virginia, your

1221
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,840
stomping grounds to 7777

1222
01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:27,180
Did you receive an email from
her about the to Brian,

1223
01:12:27,540 --> 01:12:30,480
I'm gonna look for it before we
get to the birthday segment and

1224
01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:32,970
then when we start that I'll
tell you the names and you'll

1225
01:12:32,970 --> 01:12:36,480
put them on the list. She's got
100 Each for two birthdays and a

1226
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:40,770
sack of sevens for the belated
anniversary so we will find that

1227
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:47,490
email William low rock in locust
North Carolina to 2222 as my

1228
01:12:47,490 --> 01:12:50,670
first large donation I need some
job karma. Not only am I

1229
01:12:50,670 --> 01:12:53,940
interested in interviewing for a
new gig soon I also just found

1230
01:12:53,940 --> 01:12:59,040
out my current employer intends
to fire me in January after I

1231
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,350
helped him build his drone
business.

1232
01:13:01,710 --> 01:13:05,430
What? Yeah, oh, that's lame. Mo

1233
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,270
i love the show and have been
listening since August 13.

1234
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:14,310
August August 2013. And have hit
several people in the mouth just

1235
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:20,940
for fun. Could you throw in a
ISIS ISIS baby? Yeah, job Carmen

1236
01:13:20,940 --> 01:13:22,050
ISIS ISIS baby.

1237
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,450
I got it. I was Ah come on you
fuck I'm sorry. Sorry,

1238
01:13:27,450 --> 01:13:30,870
Tourette's. Tourette's tres. Ah,
it's just annoying. Sometimes

1239
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:33,000
the I'm not going to outwork.
Alright, here we go

1240
01:13:44,820 --> 01:13:48,480
you've got karma. Yeah, read
ahead for these things. And I've

1241
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:51,450
been while you were talking I
was trying to get the jingle in

1242
01:13:51,450 --> 01:13:53,040
for like 10 seconds.

1243
01:13:53,130 --> 01:13:56,400
It was a job Skarmory needed and
you left out the jobs part

1244
01:13:56,430 --> 01:13:57,720
because I was completely

1245
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:03,870
distracted. Alright,
everything's going wrong. going

1246
01:14:03,870 --> 01:14:09,300
wrong. Jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

1247
01:14:11,190 --> 01:14:13,680
You've got the good karma there
we go there we

1248
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:18,390
got a double of karma. He's
gonna He's gonna get shot work.

1249
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:20,880
Maybe a good job working for the
government. That's your best so

1250
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:27,510
that's where Don So Don keel he
puts kill it because I've always

1251
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:32,490
thought that was cool. That was
wrong. In Windham, North. North

1252
01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:39,390
north. New Hampshire, North
Hampshire to 2222 He's in

1253
01:14:39,390 --> 01:14:43,770
Windham north north Hampshire.
ITM John and Adam time to donate

1254
01:14:43,770 --> 01:14:47,790
again. First I need some serious
maximum big time job karma. i

1255
01:14:47,790 --> 01:14:52,110
Okay. Any other jingle Adam,
Adam, Adam Chu. I can nobody

1256
01:14:52,110 --> 01:14:54,480
gives me an opportunity to
choose a jingle.

1257
01:14:55,230 --> 01:15:01,110
I delegate my jingle choice to
the state was gentleman from

1258
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:01,890
California

1259
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:14,160
I will pick that Calypso Thank
you for keeping me sane which is

1260
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,160
apparently a number of people
believe we do. And I think we

1261
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:21,420
do. Thanks for keeping me sane
and entertained

1262
01:15:30,780 --> 01:15:40,740
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's
vote for jobs. Karma nice choice

1263
01:15:40,740 --> 01:15:44,790
sir. Well plan we have this as
all we get for today's show and

1264
01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:49,230
this is show 669 We didn't
nobody came up with the 669 now

1265
01:15:49,260 --> 01:15:52,350
to become the only club member
but that's okay. We do have a

1266
01:15:52,350 --> 01:15:57,330
show coming up on Sunday and it
will be show 670 Think about how

1267
01:15:57,330 --> 01:15:58,110
many shows we've

1268
01:15:58,110 --> 01:16:02,220
done of which portion of my side
will be done from New York City

1269
01:16:02,220 --> 01:16:02,820
and you're gonna

1270
01:16:02,820 --> 01:16:04,680
actually bring the gear to New
York City. We'll do the show

1271
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:09,060
from there. I'll be stuck here
in the in the north Highlands.

1272
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,620
And we want to remind people go
to dvorak.org/n H challenge of

1273
01:16:13,620 --> 01:16:17,880
rit.com/na the no agenda show in
the no agenda nation.com sites

1274
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,180
both have donate buttons you can
click on and find an alternative

1275
01:16:22,230 --> 01:16:27,210
route to the donation section of
the of the blogs and I also

1276
01:16:27,210 --> 01:16:31,620
wanted to thank producer Jerry
small he heard us talking a

1277
01:16:31,620 --> 01:16:36,240
while back about what kind of a
projector Mizuhiki should get

1278
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,820
for those who want to do
something in projection and some

1279
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,660
Oh yeah. He said he's had one
laying around it's secondhand

1280
01:16:42,660 --> 01:16:50,340
but he had one laying around a
Canon S x x. This is like it is

1281
01:16:50,340 --> 01:16:51,930
a fantastic machine.

1282
01:16:52,230 --> 01:16:55,710
Let's see with an extra bulb. Oh
that's what you need.

1283
01:16:55,740 --> 01:16:58,800
This thing is nice. Ken and

1284
01:16:58,950 --> 01:17:03,630
S X at checkout the look at this
look at

1285
01:17:03,630 --> 01:17:07,080
this thing. I don't know how
many lumens it has but it's his

1286
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:07,920
it gets a six

1287
01:17:07,950 --> 01:17:10,080
at the mark two or the mark one

1288
01:17:10,110 --> 01:17:12,540
I don't know. You know, I don't
know that. I

1289
01:17:12,540 --> 01:17:16,800
don't know. Okay, well it looks
like a winner. Yeah, well, she

1290
01:17:16,830 --> 01:17:19,530
she was playing with scotch 3000
lumens.

1291
01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:25,590
That's what you want. Right? And
yeah, I just wanted to thank him

1292
01:17:25,590 --> 01:17:28,110
for that she's gonna thank him
separately but I was just like

1293
01:17:28,110 --> 01:17:33,690
wow, that was nice. That was
nice. Thank you I'm sure you'll

1294
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,790
you'll be thanked appropriately

1295
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,600
by that so make sure that I just
who is it again that did this

1296
01:17:39,630 --> 01:17:43,680
Jerry small Jerry get some get
some photos in exchange for

1297
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:43,950
this.

1298
01:17:44,130 --> 01:17:52,290
Maybe you can do lights slash
and everybody we still need you

1299
01:17:52,290 --> 01:17:54,900
to go out there and do the very
important work of propagating

1300
01:17:54,900 --> 01:18:00,300
our formula our formula is this
we go out we get people in the

1301
01:18:00,300 --> 01:18:00,600
mouth

1302
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:17,220
a citizen and this just in at
the very last moment before the

1303
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:22,380
before we started with them with
a with a broadcast after Matt

1304
01:18:22,380 --> 01:18:27,870
Taibbi rejected himself from the
$250 million WordPress blog

1305
01:18:27,870 --> 01:18:36,450
known as The Wizard that long
didn't even start the the editor

1306
01:18:36,450 --> 01:18:38,490
in chief John Cook has left

1307
01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:41,610
that guy came over made a big
deal about this you because

1308
01:18:41,610 --> 01:18:46,530
he came from Gawker I think. And
he's going back to Gawker, just

1309
01:18:46,530 --> 01:18:49,650
like time he's going back to
Rolling Stone. This tells me

1310
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:54,360
tells me there's some bad poopoo
going on there. We spotted that

1311
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,240
year drive and we said Yeah, we
did. And we're like, this is

1312
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:01,740
great. This is fantastic. Be
like now this is bullcrap.

1313
01:19:02,610 --> 01:19:05,670
i Before we continue by the way
and before we get into that a

1314
01:19:05,670 --> 01:19:10,560
little more I do have Joan data
phrase note. Oh please. She did

1315
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,830
request a couple of sound
effects. Okay.

1316
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,100
Can then kind of get my pen
first for the birthdays yet the

1317
01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:19,050
pen. I got the pen we're good
here. Here's

1318
01:19:19,050 --> 01:19:21,780
the pin. Let me read the note
for the pic for the pen first.

1319
01:19:21,780 --> 01:19:24,330
Alright, I'm such a douchebag
again, I forgot to donate for my

1320
01:19:24,330 --> 01:19:27,780
birthday for the birthday of my
son sir Max return 14 Last

1321
01:19:27,780 --> 01:19:32,220
Friday the 11 Seven. I got a
terrible mom please do the couch

1322
01:19:32,220 --> 01:19:35,850
me for that. She says it thinks
she meant d do she needs a D

1323
01:19:35,850 --> 01:19:38,580
douching put that down. And
don't forget his birthday. I

1324
01:19:38,580 --> 01:19:42,840
just forgot to donate. And also
my husband Alex is turning 50

1325
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,240
this Friday. That's tomorrow. So
women

1326
01:19:46,350 --> 01:19:49,440
she forgot her son's birthday
and her husband's birthday.

1327
01:19:49,470 --> 01:19:51,900
No, no, her husband is tomorrow.
So she remembered that

1328
01:19:51,930 --> 01:19:55,530
oh, the kid. Oh, poor kid.

1329
01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:00,000
Sir Max and an owl and Alex and
she needed even though you

1330
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,480
refuses to listen to the show is
your husband on there you go

1331
01:20:03,690 --> 01:20:06,390
good. I still love him and would
like to wish him a happy

1332
01:20:06,390 --> 01:20:08,970
birthday then again this really
stupid my wedding anniversary

1333
01:20:09,390 --> 01:20:11,970
anniversary of the no agenda
show fall on the same date

1334
01:20:12,150 --> 01:20:15,660
October 26. And I didn't donate
for that either. I always mean

1335
01:20:15,660 --> 01:20:18,360
to but then I lose my mind I
count on you guys to remind me

1336
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,180
of my own wedding anniversary
you follow through and then I

1337
01:20:21,180 --> 01:20:26,310
dropped the ball it's the fault
of hormones if you ask me so you

1338
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:30,720
need sir Max. Alex and then the
her and her wedding on October

1339
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,270
Anniversaries are actually three
things and and here's what she

1340
01:20:33,270 --> 01:20:36,660
wanted. If it's not too late to
read it could I please ask for a

1341
01:20:36,750 --> 01:20:41,520
president Porky Pig and an Al
Sharpton resist we much on

1342
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:45,780
That's not that bad? No, it's
not like a confusing mess. And

1343
01:20:45,780 --> 01:20:48,540
then that'll finish and we'll
have we got her all straightened

1344
01:20:48,540 --> 01:20:48,900
out.

1345
01:20:50,130 --> 01:20:54,960
Okay, and douching, Porky resist
karma.

1346
01:20:55,620 --> 01:20:57,930
She doesn't ask for karma, but I
give her some okay.

1347
01:21:00,030 --> 01:21:04,350
You've been de deuced that's how
we that's how we

1348
01:21:12,390 --> 01:21:17,160
and that's the story. But
resist. We must. We must. You

1349
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:23,520
will my mind. Okay. All right.
We're all caught up. All right.

1350
01:21:25,170 --> 01:21:27,870
Well, back to this, this
intercept thing.

1351
01:21:28,530 --> 01:21:30,090
Yes. That's great.

1352
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,910
I just want I do want to point
out that we said from the get

1353
01:21:32,910 --> 01:21:38,550
go, this was the very first day
and so who else needs where's

1354
01:21:38,550 --> 01:21:42,660
it? What's the guy's name? The
hoity toity Professor douchebag,

1355
01:21:42,660 --> 01:21:46,950
who was also the blogger Dude,
come on, what's his name? That

1356
01:21:47,010 --> 01:21:50,880
was consulting for them. It's
like Jeff Jarvis.

1357
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,230
What's the guy's name and why
you wrote it

1358
01:21:55,259 --> 01:21:59,099
Brad. Jeff Rosen. Hey, how's
that working out for you Jeff

1359
01:21:59,099 --> 01:22:02,789
rosin Jay Rosen have with noise
from now on. He's Jeff Rosen.

1360
01:22:02,879 --> 01:22:05,099
Okay, Jeff Rosen and Jay Jarvis.

1361
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,700
Sounds good. Yeah, I guess that
didn't work out it wasn't here

1362
01:22:08,700 --> 01:22:11,580
it is, you know they're gonna
have all this freedom and and

1363
01:22:11,580 --> 01:22:14,430
this guy who comes in as the
editor he says we're stopping

1364
01:22:14,430 --> 01:22:16,980
right now in our tracks. And
we're the guy

1365
01:22:17,009 --> 01:22:20,549
that said we're going to
celebrate the Sabbath or

1366
01:22:20,549 --> 01:22:21,149
something when

1367
01:22:23,700 --> 01:22:26,010
the whole thing is whacked. Oh,

1368
01:22:26,130 --> 01:22:31,920
hey, are you from the hood all
of a sudden? Yeah. James Cook is

1369
01:22:31,950 --> 01:22:32,700
with an E

1370
01:22:33,420 --> 01:22:35,610
No, no, I think because James
Cook and

1371
01:22:35,610 --> 01:22:37,530
let me see what we have in here
we go

1372
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,890
and it does. He does. He sent a
missive out for us to read about

1373
01:22:40,890 --> 01:22:45,480
how why he quit. No, this isn't
making too much money.

1374
01:22:45,570 --> 01:22:51,000
This is this. This just came in
so just before the show starts I

1375
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:55,380
don't know if there's if there's
any other news Let me see. No, I

1376
01:22:55,380 --> 01:22:56,280
don't have anything else.

1377
01:22:57,570 --> 01:22:59,790
What about the site itself? They
should have some announcement

1378
01:22:59,790 --> 01:23:03,210
there. Well, okay, I EB That's
hilarious.

1379
01:23:07,050 --> 01:23:12,090
Well, Ty EB what is it? What
what's it called first look.

1380
01:23:13,290 --> 01:23:16,170
At first look, Meteor. So like
they have the crappiest.

1381
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,490
I know they. I think the guy is
just maybe there was no maybe

1382
01:23:20,490 --> 01:23:23,430
they just did this on the cheap.
expecting

1383
01:23:23,490 --> 01:23:26,910
that now they had they were the
grand jury. Well, they're

1384
01:23:26,910 --> 01:23:31,770
building a safe room in the New
York offices, right?

1385
01:23:32,340 --> 01:23:35,340
Yeah, because they're gonna get
raided. So but

1386
01:23:35,910 --> 01:23:39,720
and by the way, I think that
that would make them that goes

1387
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,730
beyond their mission, I think
are important to now this is

1388
01:23:41,730 --> 01:23:44,760
from the 28th so this is the
Matt Taibbi announcement from

1389
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,030
Pierre and we do drive my car. I
regret to announce that after

1390
01:23:48,030 --> 01:23:51,000
several weeks of discussions
Matt Taibbi has left first look,

1391
01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:53,700
we wish him well. Our
differences were never about

1392
01:23:53,700 --> 01:23:56,730
editorial independence. We have
never wavered from our pledge

1393
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,400
that journalistic content is for
the journalist who decides come

1394
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:02,460
up period. We're disappointed by
how things have turned out. He

1395
01:24:02,460 --> 01:24:05,130
was excited by Matt's editorial
vision and hope to help him

1396
01:24:05,130 --> 01:24:08,160
bring it to fruition. Now we
turn our focus to exploring next

1397
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,890
steps for the talented team that
has worked to create Max

1398
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:11,790
publication.

1399
01:24:14,220 --> 01:24:17,970
Like to get the real story on
this tie is one of those things

1400
01:24:17,970 --> 01:24:21,090
that remind reminded of an
interview with a with a

1401
01:24:21,090 --> 01:24:25,170
Hollywood guy, Michael Bay was
on a show that is now not on any

1402
01:24:25,170 --> 01:24:27,270
longer. But it was always
discussing these little things

1403
01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:30,840
with Peter Guber and a couple
other other guests. It was a

1404
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,540
very it was all inside baseball
about the movies. He said, when

1405
01:24:33,540 --> 01:24:36,600
he first got the Transformers
gig, that you know, he said,

1406
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,280
Well, it sounds good because
there's a lot of money involved.

1407
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,810
And they said they wanted him to
do it in Canada. And he goes up

1408
01:24:42,810 --> 01:24:45,720
to Canada and he says, This
isn't right. There's something

1409
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:49,770
wrong here. This is not good.
This is some sort of scam. So he

1410
01:24:49,770 --> 01:24:52,710
came back he says I'm doing it
in Hollywood with my people.

1411
01:24:52,740 --> 01:24:57,420
Oh yeah. But here it is. Grande
Grimaldo rap so they had they

1412
01:24:57,420 --> 01:25:01,290
pulled Glenn out to write the
the old it want to hear it.

1413
01:25:01,470 --> 01:25:04,920
Yeah. John's headline doo doo
doo doo doo doo doo doo John

1414
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,620
Cook is leaving the intercept to
return to Gawker at the end of

1415
01:25:07,620 --> 01:25:11,550
the year. Pretty much now what
the intercepts Editor in Chief

1416
01:25:11,550 --> 01:25:14,310
John Cook who spent the year
tripling our staff size and

1417
01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:17,910
significantly increasing our
daily journalistic output is

1418
01:25:17,910 --> 01:25:19,980
leaving at the end of the year
to return to Gawker Media.

1419
01:25:20,220 --> 01:25:23,550
Deputy Editor Ryan Tate will
continue to work with John and

1420
01:25:23,550 --> 01:25:26,100
the rest of the newsroom to
effect a smooth transition until

1421
01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:28,980
the search for cooks permanent
replacement already underway

1422
01:25:28,980 --> 01:25:32,850
it's completed. Quote, working
with my intercept colleagues has

1423
01:25:32,850 --> 01:25:35,430
been one of the most fulfilling
things I've done in my career

1424
01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:38,520
and my decision to leave was a
painful one to make Cook said

1425
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:42,030
but I feel comfortable leaving
in the knowledge of this that it

1426
01:25:42,030 --> 01:25:44,850
is now perfectly situated to
become a powerful journalistic

1427
01:25:44,850 --> 01:25:47,190
force under new editorial
leadership.

1428
01:25:47,220 --> 01:25:49,650
Oh he's a good guy he's one of
those guys who never said

1429
01:25:49,650 --> 01:25:51,510
anything but doesn't want burn
bridges

1430
01:25:52,830 --> 01:25:56,190
blah blah let's get a quote
farm. Oh, John Cook did a

1431
01:25:56,550 --> 01:25:59,580
tremendous job in getting the
intercept off the ground said

1432
01:25:59,580 --> 01:26:03,480
intercept co founding editor
Jeremy Scahill is great. We got

1433
01:26:03,510 --> 01:26:07,080
Greenwald interviewing his co
founding editors great. He was

1434
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,450
the perfect person to lead us
through the inevitable

1435
01:26:09,570 --> 01:26:12,690
inevitably difficult first year
of figuring out how we want it

1436
01:26:12,690 --> 01:26:15,720
to function and exactly what we
want it to be. We are now

1437
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,300
preparing to expand the
intercepts coverage and bring on

1438
01:26:18,300 --> 01:26:19,620
more journalists

1439
01:26:21,030 --> 01:26:24,720
that it was fired for hiring too
many people probably breaking

1440
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:25,260
the bank

1441
01:26:25,559 --> 01:26:29,489
he he wasn't the guy he saw
what's going on so it's it's

1442
01:26:29,819 --> 01:26:31,109
phony baloney

1443
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:37,200
was something we met there's
something that will obviously

1444
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,120
drove him anti EB out

1445
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:45,540
or Tybee part part of it was he
was accused of being a dick. He

1446
01:26:45,540 --> 01:26:48,600
said yes, he said you stupid
bitch or something to some woman

1447
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:49,050
there.

1448
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:53,040
Oh no. Yeah, but then they she
was a stupid bitch. Is that

1449
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:53,550
possible? They

1450
01:26:53,550 --> 01:26:56,340
brought in independent
investigators and they said oh,

1451
01:26:56,340 --> 01:27:00,120
there was no harm no foul, but I
guess like a newsroom where you

1452
01:27:01,170 --> 01:27:04,320
Yeah, newsroom we got it stupid
bitch. You missed it. Whatever.

1453
01:27:04,350 --> 01:27:06,840
You could take bitch asshole to
a guy whatever.

1454
01:27:08,670 --> 01:27:12,420
Yeah, that's a good would go on.
Yeah, people yell at each other.

1455
01:27:12,420 --> 01:27:12,840
Let's see

1456
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:18,900
what New York Times says. If
they they okay, they are just

1457
01:27:18,990 --> 01:27:24,600
they just quoting Greenwald. Of
course. It shows up. So they're

1458
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:30,030
talking about Gawker Media. And
they're happy Mr. Nick Denton.

1459
01:27:32,490 --> 01:27:37,470
This is a funny, doesn't Nick
Denton do like gossip? Yeah,

1460
01:27:37,470 --> 01:27:40,290
he's a gossip guy. In an
interview Thursday, he will do

1461
01:27:40,290 --> 01:27:44,190
what he did best on gawker bring
great big scoops. But across the

1462
01:27:44,190 --> 01:27:45,810
eight sites, okay.

1463
01:27:48,510 --> 01:27:51,270
All right. I have advice for
these guys. Bring it somebody

1464
01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:52,620
from TMZ.

1465
01:27:53,820 --> 01:27:57,660
Exactly. Yeah. More stories
about Kim Kardashians, but

1466
01:27:58,470 --> 01:28:02,010
that'll work. Man. Oh, man. Oh,
man.

1467
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,110
You stupid bitches. Funny.

1468
01:28:04,139 --> 01:28:07,889
It's something like that. I was
reading the whole as rundown of

1469
01:28:07,889 --> 01:28:15,629
it. It's just ridiculous. Let me
see. Oh, okay. Whoa. Yes. I was.

1470
01:28:15,899 --> 01:28:16,589
Sorry. Go ahead.

1471
01:28:16,620 --> 01:28:18,600
I'm sorry. I said two words. So
that's okay. So

1472
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:19,350
what did you want to say?

1473
01:28:20,730 --> 01:28:23,820
My son and I came back. They
were in Hawaii.

1474
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,490
This is your son who I have a
picture of where they lay around

1475
01:28:26,490 --> 01:28:27,780
his neck. Yeah, I

1476
01:28:27,780 --> 01:28:32,850
know. Apparently, the Hawaiians
are all in on hating Obama. You

1477
01:28:32,850 --> 01:28:34,920
know, remember when Obama first
became president, he would make

1478
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,680
this trip to Hawaii for the
first couple of years and then

1479
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,980
he never went again. So they
have these mints. He brought

1480
01:28:40,980 --> 01:28:45,270
some back to mint. Mint. Little
boxes of mints. I've seen

1481
01:28:45,540 --> 01:28:48,390
peppermint. Yeah. peppermints.
And one of them says

1482
01:28:49,140 --> 01:28:56,670
disappointed mince Obama. And
here's another one. lemon

1483
01:28:56,670 --> 01:28:59,310
flavored eaves drops.

1484
01:29:00,750 --> 01:29:03,390
Prove who makes these who
produce?

1485
01:29:03,780 --> 01:29:05,520
That's a question that's up for
grabs. It's

1486
01:29:05,910 --> 01:29:06,750
interested in this. This

1487
01:29:06,750 --> 01:29:10,290
is great. The unemployed. He's
got some of the unemployed

1488
01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:13,410
philosophers guild they there's
what they call themselves and

1489
01:29:13,410 --> 01:29:17,100
it's on the back of each one.
The unemployed philosophers

1490
01:29:17,100 --> 01:29:19,410
Guild and I guess they're you
know, there's it's a gimmick.

1491
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,640
But it's an all the trinket
shops. Apparently a lot of Obama

1492
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:28,380
stuff. That's all negative.
Interesting. I just thought, oh,

1493
01:29:28,380 --> 01:29:29,370
yeah, it was interesting.

1494
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,800
Why do we think this is
happening?

1495
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:38,340
There's a huge backlash against
Obama. And it was all apparently

1496
01:29:38,340 --> 01:29:41,310
orchestrated by the Republican
Party and I have to give them

1497
01:29:41,310 --> 01:29:45,660
credit for it. They had if you
went to you listen to the news

1498
01:29:45,660 --> 01:29:48,630
hour. They had Debbie Wasserman
Schultz,

1499
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,170
who is the She's the head of the
Democratic Party, the

1500
01:29:52,170 --> 01:29:55,380
Democratic Party, committee,
whatever, Democratic National

1501
01:29:55,380 --> 01:29:55,710
Committee,

1502
01:29:55,980 --> 01:29:59,970
I have net this. So this is
someone who I I really don't

1503
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,530
Like, yes, she is just an
annoying person. Totally notice

1504
01:30:04,530 --> 01:30:05,280
I say person.

1505
01:30:05,970 --> 01:30:11,670
Now let me play two clips then.
Yes, just to annoy me. And of

1506
01:30:11,670 --> 01:30:13,710
course she's going to be
interviewed about the election

1507
01:30:13,740 --> 01:30:16,740
by Who do you think on the news
our might?

1508
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,830
That's not That's not fair
because I have your clip list.

1509
01:30:20,820 --> 01:30:22,020
So I can send

1510
01:30:22,020 --> 01:30:22,380
it

1511
01:30:22,559 --> 01:30:28,529
course the hagiography. Let's
play well. Oh, Chuck Hagel on TV

1512
01:30:28,529 --> 01:30:32,369
live right now with a huge
bandaid on his face. Oh,

1513
01:30:32,369 --> 01:30:37,439
somebody punched him out.
Finally. Wow. You don't have CNN

1514
01:30:38,099 --> 01:30:41,849
now, and I don't have a TV. And
when I do the show, I do the

1515
01:30:41,849 --> 01:30:42,239
show.

1516
01:30:42,630 --> 01:30:44,970
Oh, no. But somebody has to keep
an eye on the end of the

1517
01:30:45,090 --> 01:30:47,760
show. No, I you know, as far as
I'm concerned, you, I think it

1518
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,910
would be kind of cool to do the
show with 25 monitors there and

1519
01:30:50,910 --> 01:30:54,390
you can keep looking around it,
but it'd be better for video.

1520
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:57,870
Anyway, let's get back to this.
I'll get them out of the way. So

1521
01:30:58,740 --> 01:31:02,940
Gwen Eiffel asks a specific
question, and what is the

1522
01:31:02,940 --> 01:31:07,140
question? Well, the question is,
is Nancy Pelosi said it was

1523
01:31:07,140 --> 01:31:10,410
either an appetite or a
disaster, some decisions. She

1524
01:31:10,410 --> 01:31:14,370
made some comment and I will ask
Debbie wash Wasserman Schultz.

1525
01:31:14,610 --> 01:31:18,240
What what do you think of those
two things that Pelosi said?

1526
01:31:18,300 --> 01:31:23,310
Which is worse? Answer. What do
you think the answer is? The

1527
01:31:23,310 --> 01:31:29,130
answer is a Debbie Wasserman
Schultz. I don't care what

1528
01:31:29,130 --> 01:31:31,320
you're asking me. I'm just gonna
talk and say whatever it feels

1529
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:31,620
like.

1530
01:31:31,980 --> 01:31:35,730
And by the way, it would be
funny to have General Dempsey

1531
01:31:35,730 --> 01:31:39,360
introduce her washerman Schultz.

1532
01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:42,870
Nancy Pelosi said in an
interview today that this was

1533
01:31:42,870 --> 01:31:46,260
not a GOP way but an ebb tide
for the Democrats, which is

1534
01:31:46,260 --> 01:31:51,510
worse. Well, what we're doing is
looking beyond just this one

1535
01:31:51,510 --> 01:31:56,130
election, we felt and certainly
last Tuesday was a tough night

1536
01:31:56,130 --> 01:32:00,570
for Democrats. But, you know, if
you look at 2010 and 2014

1537
01:32:00,780 --> 01:32:05,460
midterm elections, clearly we
know the voters support our

1538
01:32:05,460 --> 01:32:09,360
agenda. They consistently last
Tuesday voted to increase the

1539
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:13,410
minimum wage, voted in a gun
safety statewide initiative,

1540
01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:16,680
three states, one state defeated
personhood amendment

1541
01:32:17,910 --> 01:32:20,790
she did was she points out that
you know, Colorado tightened up

1542
01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:23,010
his gun laws and Washington
State did too. And so that's a

1543
01:32:23,010 --> 01:32:26,070
big movement that everyone's all
in with the Democrats. But

1544
01:32:26,070 --> 01:32:30,630
anyway, I found a this is a kind
of an ask Adam, I think this is

1545
01:32:30,630 --> 01:32:33,630
the right clip for it. Do you
this is I'm gonna ask you, this

1546
01:32:33,630 --> 01:32:36,870
is a clip of Debbie Wasserman
Schultz very, it's not too long.

1547
01:32:37,590 --> 01:32:40,770
And she's discussing this the
election disaster which was her

1548
01:32:40,770 --> 01:32:46,380
fault. And she has a new, a new
meme a new term something I want

1549
01:32:46,380 --> 01:32:48,570
to see if you can identify it in
this clip.

1550
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:55,560
We have two electorates that it
appears are straightening

1551
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,230
themselves out. And we need to
take a deep dive look. And

1552
01:32:58,230 --> 01:33:01,380
that's why I'm going to appoint
a committee in the next few days

1553
01:33:01,380 --> 01:33:06,000
to really take a deep dive
assessment. There's a disconnect

1554
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,340
on on the maximum getting out
and voting for our candidates

1555
01:33:08,340 --> 01:33:10,740
and midterms and we've got to
take a really deep dive on what

1556
01:33:10,740 --> 01:33:11,760
found what the problems

1557
01:33:12,450 --> 01:33:15,180
what do you think it is that
she's trying to say?

1558
01:33:15,630 --> 01:33:17,460
How many times can I guess?

1559
01:33:18,389 --> 01:33:20,639
Yes, once Deep Dive.

1560
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:21,690
That's that.

1561
01:33:21,990 --> 01:33:22,890
That's what I'm thinking.

1562
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:26,430
I know. I know when this is
gonna take a deep dive Adam this

1563
01:33:26,460 --> 01:33:31,560
I've heard this used by
management when they've screwed

1564
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:35,850
something up for a customer. Now
we're taking a really deep dive

1565
01:33:35,850 --> 01:33:38,190
to find out what's going on.
We'll get to the bottom of this

1566
01:33:38,190 --> 01:33:44,640
as we take the deep dive. That's
it means they screwed up. Big

1567
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:52,560
Ticket big time. Okay, Chuck
Hagel. Okay. He had a minor

1568
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:54,210
kitchen mishap

1569
01:33:56,010 --> 01:33:57,570
his wife went after him he

1570
01:33:57,570 --> 01:34:01,320
stood up quickly and scratched
his cheek on an open cabinet

1571
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:01,920
door.

1572
01:34:02,100 --> 01:34:06,120
Oh, I you know, I have I haven't
scratched my cheek but I've come

1573
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,490
up under an open cabinet door
and hit myself right in the head

1574
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,430
and trickles down your face.
I've had that happen to as a kid

1575
01:34:11,430 --> 01:34:11,760
I've never

1576
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:15,810
had the blood. Oh, and you see
stars Yeah, you had to be

1577
01:34:15,810 --> 01:34:18,690
careful you got to keep your
cabinet doors closed people.

1578
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:23,850
But you could I put on a nice
like Donald Duck Band Aid or

1579
01:34:23,850 --> 01:34:25,830
some this is one of the
standards

1580
01:34:26,220 --> 01:34:29,070
LEA should have there should be
some some cute fun. Funny. Yeah,

1581
01:34:29,070 --> 01:34:32,130
maybe like smiley faces and make
fun of it. No, that's

1582
01:34:32,130 --> 01:34:32,850
not possible.

1583
01:34:32,970 --> 01:34:36,390
Yeah. No, he's not a funny guy.
No. Um,

1584
01:34:36,480 --> 01:34:40,440
I see it happened I think right
after I know what it was was

1585
01:34:40,440 --> 01:34:49,440
Monday. Yeah, Monday. I was I
was actually depressed. Whoa,

1586
01:34:49,440 --> 01:34:56,460
yeah. For at least 24 hours. And
I had drinks actually for

1587
01:34:56,460 --> 01:34:57,180
drinks.

1588
01:34:58,290 --> 01:35:01,860
Get me to drink so that I get in
class. During your lightweight

1589
01:35:02,939 --> 01:35:07,499
drinks with something and why is
why blu rays good? Yeah, very

1590
01:35:07,499 --> 01:35:09,689
good with Eric, the
constitutional lawyer.

1591
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,380
I had to talk to him in a
highball glass while you're

1592
01:35:13,380 --> 01:35:14,130
drinking it out of

1593
01:35:14,340 --> 01:35:20,550
it. What? Kind of like a
tumbler? I would say. Yeah. And

1594
01:35:20,550 --> 01:35:24,090
it was orange peel in there and
some other stuff. Oh, Eric

1595
01:35:24,090 --> 01:35:27,510
ordered it was it was a dynamite
drink. But I was definitely

1596
01:35:27,510 --> 01:35:30,300
overserved. But I was I was
emotional. And he's the only guy

1597
01:35:30,330 --> 01:35:35,160
around here I can just unload
and say, Holy, Holy, Holy, you

1598
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:35,280
are

1599
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:36,870
crying like a baby. Yeah, I

1600
01:35:36,870 --> 01:35:43,260
was. Why, after I read the
proposed Net Neutrality rules

1601
01:35:43,260 --> 01:35:44,460
from our president.

1602
01:35:47,070 --> 01:35:48,720
Let me walk right into that one.

1603
01:35:49,170 --> 01:35:54,900
And then and, and I got worse,
and you need to see this. I have

1604
01:35:54,900 --> 01:35:56,670
set up a little URL for you to
visit.

1605
01:35:57,180 --> 01:35:59,520
Because, you know, it's this is
the end of our show.

1606
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,850
Eventually. Well, but what Eric
would Eric the constitutional

1607
01:36:02,850 --> 01:36:07,260
lawyer said he said Isn't this
like really great for your show?

1608
01:36:07,260 --> 01:36:11,640
I said Yeah, until it's and he
says oh there's that

1609
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:14,700
me the URL I need

1610
01:36:14,700 --> 01:36:18,810
to set it up first. So this is a
video the President made a video

1611
01:36:19,890 --> 01:36:27,780
and and I was so outraged and
sickened by the worthless aihole

1612
01:36:27,780 --> 01:36:32,490
propaganda at the beginning of
this video. Want to see if you

1613
01:36:32,490 --> 01:36:35,550
can catch it, John? Well,
actually, you're gonna see to me

1614
01:36:35,550 --> 01:36:42,690
the itm.im/buffer and take a
look at the beginning of this

1615
01:36:42,690 --> 01:36:43,290
video

1616
01:36:47,790 --> 01:36:56,490
again, it's coming up what do
you see it's loading. Okay, what

1617
01:36:56,490 --> 01:36:59,550
is it this thing said what to
pick net neutrality predator is

1618
01:36:59,550 --> 01:37:00,720
a picture of him.

1619
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:05,130
The videoing of Mike Trout lay
the video

1620
01:37:06,210 --> 01:37:09,360
by the video and the video is
down here Okay, here we are.

1621
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,360
He's in his studio with loud
Where's where's Jean played? And

1622
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:13,980
all this lighting play the video

1623
01:37:13,980 --> 01:37:16,800
and tell me what you see at the
beginning of the video. Okay.

1624
01:37:18,630 --> 01:37:26,370
Says buffer all please frown
outraged by this.

1625
01:37:26,430 --> 01:37:27,900
This is disgusting.

1626
01:37:27,930 --> 01:37:31,620
Now of course it's legal as the
Smith Mundt Act has been

1627
01:37:31,980 --> 01:37:40,170
overturned, but to put up a fake
buffering logo to accentuate the

1628
01:37:40,170 --> 01:37:46,020
plan. Here is the audio. Hi
everybody, Heil. Ever since the

1629
01:37:46,020 --> 01:37:49,230
internet was created, it's been
organized around basic

1630
01:37:49,230 --> 01:37:54,930
principles of openness,
fairness, and freedom. Now, this

1631
01:37:54,930 --> 01:38:00,990
will not stand. Actually, the
Internet was created in a manner

1632
01:38:01,110 --> 01:38:04,890
so that any piece of it could be
a blowed up and the rest of the

1633
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:08,160
network would continue to
operate. That is Joe's days are

1634
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:13,530
over. It was not for freedom and
openness. It was for defense.

1635
01:38:14,250 --> 01:38:17,700
Communication. Yes. So But
you're right, it must this must

1636
01:38:17,700 --> 01:38:21,180
end. There are no gatekeepers
deciding which sites you get to

1637
01:38:21,180 --> 01:38:25,500
access that must end to We must
stop this. There are no toll

1638
01:38:25,500 --> 01:38:31,650
roads on the information
superhighway. Hello, 1986. We

1639
01:38:31,650 --> 01:38:35,850
want our superhighway back. This
set of principles. The idea of

1640
01:38:35,850 --> 01:38:39,810
net neutrality has unleashed the
power of the internet, and given

1641
01:38:39,810 --> 01:38:44,010
innovators the chance to thrive.
abandoning these principles

1642
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:46,590
would threaten to end the
Internet as we know it.

1643
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:51,510
Bullcrap that's why I'm laying
out a plan to keep the Internet

1644
01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:54,150
free and open. And that's why
I'm urging the Federal

1645
01:38:54,150 --> 01:38:56,580
Communications commissioned to
do everything they can to

1646
01:38:56,580 --> 01:39:00,390
protect net neutrality for
everyone. They should make it

1647
01:39:00,390 --> 01:39:03,420
clear that whether you use a
computer, phone or tablet,

1648
01:39:03,930 --> 01:39:07,650
internet providers have a legal
obligation not to block or limit

1649
01:39:07,650 --> 01:39:11,460
your access to a website. Cable
companies can decide which

1650
01:39:11,460 --> 01:39:14,790
online stores you can shop at,
or which streaming services you

1651
01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:19,110
can use, and they can't let any
company pay for priority over

1652
01:39:19,110 --> 01:39:22,770
its competitors. To put these
protections in place, I'm asking

1653
01:39:22,770 --> 01:39:26,610
the FCC to reclassify internet
service under Title two of a law

1654
01:39:26,610 --> 01:39:30,720
known as the Telecommunications
Act. I'm asking them to

1655
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,480
recognize that for most
Americans, the Internet has

1656
01:39:33,480 --> 01:39:36,390
become an essential part of
everyday communication and

1657
01:39:36,390 --> 01:39:40,200
everyday life. The FCC is an
independent agency, and

1658
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:42,420
ultimately this decision is
theirs alone.

1659
01:39:44,010 --> 01:39:46,650
But the public has already
commented nearly 4 million

1660
01:39:46,650 --> 01:39:51,180
times. Yeah, the from all the
lobbying groups which primarily

1661
01:39:51,180 --> 01:39:57,420
are comprised of Google eBay,
Amazon, asking to make sure that

1662
01:39:57,420 --> 01:40:01,740
consumers, not the cable company
gets to decide which sites they

1663
01:40:01,740 --> 01:40:07,260
use. Why am I always a consumer?
I'm not always a consumer. When

1664
01:40:07,260 --> 01:40:10,320
I'm using the internet, I can be
a producer, I can be a

1665
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:14,460
communicator, I can be an
academic, I can be someone who

1666
01:40:14,460 --> 01:40:17,550
just wants to ping pong with
somebody else. Why is

1667
01:40:17,550 --> 01:40:20,880
everything, everything on the
internet according to the

1668
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:24,990
President, and all the morons,
and retards who run this

1669
01:40:24,990 --> 01:40:29,550
country, including Valerie, f
you biatch Jarrett, why is

1670
01:40:29,550 --> 01:40:33,000
everything and consumer?
Americans are making their

1671
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,880
voices heard, and standing up
for the principles that make the

1672
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,120
internet a powerful force for
change? As long as I'm

1673
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:42,060
President, that's what I'll be
fighting for to know. Great.

1674
01:40:42,420 --> 01:40:46,560
You by the way, my wife bitches
about the term consumer. Well,

1675
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,930
she does. He's right. And she
actually documented went from

1676
01:40:48,930 --> 01:40:52,530
citizen to something there's
like about 10 terms for the

1677
01:40:52,530 --> 01:40:55,710
public, the public. You know,
there's a bunch of things that

1678
01:40:55,710 --> 01:40:59,220
became only recently the
consumer as though Yeah, all

1679
01:40:59,220 --> 01:41:01,860
that it is a complaint is I
mean, this consumer, it's

1680
01:41:01,860 --> 01:41:04,890
assuming that all we're good,
all the good, we are just

1681
01:41:04,890 --> 01:41:09,060
consuming crap off of Amazon or
to buy, you know, movies from

1682
01:41:09,060 --> 01:41:12,090
Netflix. And by the way, Tom
Wheeler, the chairman, was

1683
01:41:12,090 --> 01:41:16,500
appointed by President Barack
Obama. How does that make you

1684
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:21,720
independent? Oh, no, like I'm
voting for the guy I'm not

1685
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:22,650
voting him in.

1686
01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:26,850
And I will read from you for to
you from his from the

1687
01:41:26,850 --> 01:41:30,180
President's plan. And he says,
once again, the FCC is an

1688
01:41:30,180 --> 01:41:32,760
independent agency. Ultimately,
this decision is there as alone.

1689
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:41,610
True. However, the FCC can force
urge manipulate pressure

1690
01:41:41,610 --> 01:41:49,890
Congress into passing laws for
this now. I want to so the FCC

1691
01:41:49,890 --> 01:41:52,320
should create a new set of rules
protecting net neutrality and

1692
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,230
ensuring that neither the cable
company nor the phone company

1693
01:41:55,230 --> 01:41:58,620
will be able to act as a
gatekeeper restricting what you

1694
01:41:58,620 --> 01:42:02,460
can do or see online. The rules
I have asked what have they done

1695
01:42:02,460 --> 01:42:05,400
that, by the way, I'm just going
to continue the rules, I am

1696
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:09,420
asking for our simple common
sense steps that reflect reflect

1697
01:42:09,420 --> 01:42:13,470
the internet and you and I that
reflect the internet you and I

1698
01:42:13,470 --> 01:42:18,480
use every day, and that some
ISPs already observe these

1699
01:42:18,510 --> 01:42:23,220
bright line rules include Ooh,
right. And there's a hyphens

1700
01:42:23,220 --> 01:42:27,990
hyphenated. Now, again, the
first thing he says here is that

1701
01:42:28,650 --> 01:42:33,960
no company will be able to act
as a gatekeeper restricting what

1702
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,330
you can do or see online.

1703
01:42:37,050 --> 01:42:38,940
Who does that? Let

1704
01:42:38,940 --> 01:42:47,370
me continue. No company can be
act and act as a gatekeeper. The

1705
01:42:47,370 --> 01:42:51,000
first rule the president
proposes is no blocking. If a

1706
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:56,820
consumer requests access to a
website or service and the

1707
01:42:56,820 --> 01:43:03,210
content is legal, your ISP
should not be permitted to block

1708
01:43:03,210 --> 01:43:08,700
it. That way, every player not
just those commercially

1709
01:43:08,700 --> 01:43:14,100
affiliated with an ISP gets a
fair shot at your business, you

1710
01:43:14,100 --> 01:43:20,970
lowly, moronic college surfing
consumer now. Not. So of course,

1711
01:43:21,480 --> 01:43:25,980
I say to Eric to constitutional
lawyers. Do you think Eric that

1712
01:43:26,190 --> 01:43:31,530
under this WikiLeaks
publications would be considered

1713
01:43:31,530 --> 01:43:37,890
legal? He says no. How about
Snowden documents? would these

1714
01:43:37,890 --> 01:43:43,530
be considered illegal? He says
no. Now I throw this out by

1715
01:43:43,530 --> 01:43:48,150
chance in a discussion forum.
And I say who and what is going

1716
01:43:48,150 --> 01:43:52,620
to be deemed as illegal content
hate speech, bullying, there are

1717
01:43:52,620 --> 01:43:56,160
already laws against hate speech
in California. So that will not

1718
01:43:56,160 --> 01:44:00,240
be that would be illegal content
and therefore should be blocked.

1719
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:04,950
So let me just read one
response. And which I think is

1720
01:44:04,980 --> 01:44:10,920
it's actually a well balanced
response. But it's, I think this

1721
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:13,800
is what we're going to be
dealing with. And it comes back

1722
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:17,220
to the question you kept asking
me, where's this number four. So

1723
01:44:17,250 --> 01:44:22,470
this person kts says, Let me get
this right. You believe an ISP

1724
01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:24,990
shouldn't be able to block your
content whenever they want,

1725
01:44:24,990 --> 01:44:27,090
whether it's legal or not,
that's the position you're

1726
01:44:27,090 --> 01:44:30,240
taking that the ISP can block
whatever they want from you the

1727
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,300
subscriber for whatever reason
they want is that okay with you,

1728
01:44:33,540 --> 01:44:35,940
you're all hung up on who will
decide what is legal and

1729
01:44:35,940 --> 01:44:39,150
illegal, that is already in
place. Child pornography is

1730
01:44:39,180 --> 01:44:42,150
illegal has been for a while for
good reason, and will land you

1731
01:44:42,150 --> 01:44:44,970
in jail today without the new
law. There are lots of other

1732
01:44:44,970 --> 01:44:49,350
illegal content types, that does
not change with the law. We what

1733
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:54,150
the proposal does change that if
the content is legal, then the

1734
01:44:54,150 --> 01:44:58,260
ISP will not be allowed to block
you from getting it. Why do you

1735
01:44:58,260 --> 01:45:02,370
want the ISP to retain what they
Do today block legal content

1736
01:45:02,370 --> 01:45:09,180
from you, however they want to?
Why would you want this? Wow,

1737
01:45:09,210 --> 01:45:12,240
that's a good, I must say I have
no answer.

1738
01:45:13,139 --> 01:45:18,599
There's no answer for it. It's
an illogical argument assumes

1739
01:45:18,599 --> 01:45:21,839
that there's assumptions being
made in that within the

1740
01:45:21,839 --> 01:45:24,509
arguments like Oh, Riley, when
he when I played that clip

1741
01:45:24,509 --> 01:45:27,269
earlier, where he makes
assumptions. There's assumptions

1742
01:45:27,269 --> 01:45:31,439
that this is going on. I mean,
give me an example of where

1743
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:34,829
they're blocking legal content
or any content for that matter.

1744
01:45:34,889 --> 01:45:37,919
They don't block the porn sites,
they don't block the child porn.

1745
01:45:38,219 --> 01:45:40,559
They let you do you want to go
get it, go get it and then get

1746
01:45:40,559 --> 01:45:43,079
arrested. And he'd like he said,
people do get arrested. They

1747
01:45:43,079 --> 01:45:45,059
just collect it. And the next
thing you know, they're in

1748
01:45:45,059 --> 01:45:45,509
court.

1749
01:45:45,570 --> 01:45:49,500
What's worse, I will submit to
you. Now, this is the

1750
01:45:49,500 --> 01:45:53,220
President's proposal. All the
proposals we've seen have not

1751
01:45:53,220 --> 01:45:56,220
used the word illegal. They've
used the word lawful, then

1752
01:45:56,220 --> 01:45:59,670
they've specifically unlawful
unlawful content and, quote,

1753
01:45:59,820 --> 01:46:01,650
unlawful network

1754
01:46:02,159 --> 01:46:05,429
traffic. And BitTorrent ah,

1755
01:46:05,729 --> 01:46:08,669
I figured it out. Okay,
encryption.

1756
01:46:09,389 --> 01:46:11,399
All right. Of course, they've
been trying to get rid of

1757
01:46:11,399 --> 01:46:15,359
encryption forever. Nice. Watch.
It'll, that's what it's going to

1758
01:46:15,359 --> 01:46:18,779
do time today. You got two
points. You know, you got none.

1759
01:46:19,769 --> 01:46:22,769
What do you mean you haven't
you? You've done great with

1760
01:46:22,829 --> 01:46:25,439
China, and put the harmonica

1761
01:46:25,469 --> 01:46:27,449
do something. Yeah, but it's
not. That's not me. That's

1762
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:31,259
anyone could have done. Gambit.
That's great. Because that's

1763
01:46:31,259 --> 01:46:36,029
exactly what they've been the
FBI in particular. boning about

1764
01:46:36,029 --> 01:46:39,929
you, oh, you know, we can go
into the phones. We can do this.

1765
01:46:39,929 --> 01:46:42,479
We can't do that. If we don't
have access to it. Encryption is

1766
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:47,639
bad. Yeah, no, exactly. Right.
You're right. All all content

1767
01:46:47,639 --> 01:46:48,299
has to be sorry,

1768
01:46:48,300 --> 01:46:50,010
what did you say? What did you
say? I didn't hear it. What did

1769
01:46:50,010 --> 01:46:52,530
you say? I said is bad. You said
I was right.

1770
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:56,430
I thought I forgot. I can't
remember one minute to that.

1771
01:46:56,430 --> 01:46:56,580
Now.

1772
01:46:56,580 --> 01:47:00,480
That is the number one proposal
from the President. Number two,

1773
01:47:00,870 --> 01:47:06,180
no throttling. Nor should ISPs
be me.

1774
01:47:06,480 --> 01:47:10,020
rattling throttling thing? I
believe, you know, this,

1775
01:47:10,020 --> 01:47:11,910
let me read let me read let me
read it, then you can respond.

1776
01:47:12,210 --> 01:47:16,440
Nor should ISPs be able to
intentionally slow down some

1777
01:47:16,440 --> 01:47:21,000
content or speed up others
through a process often called

1778
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:25,230
throttling. Based on the type of
service or your ISPs

1779
01:47:25,230 --> 01:47:27,390
preferences. Go.

1780
01:47:27,870 --> 01:47:30,030
You should do that voice more
often. Yes, I shall.

1781
01:47:31,440 --> 01:47:33,420
Well, did you want to respond to
the throat? I

1782
01:47:33,420 --> 01:47:39,690
got things to say, oh, first of
all, are they doing this now? I

1783
01:47:39,690 --> 01:47:40,470
don't know. Well,

1784
01:47:40,500 --> 01:47:46,050
well, yes. This is the this is
the what started it was the

1785
01:47:46,050 --> 01:47:50,040
Netflix throttling. And the
buffering which of course, got

1786
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:53,130
everybody all up in arms,
because holy crap, I can't see

1787
01:47:53,130 --> 01:47:54,210
House of Cards.

1788
01:47:54,270 --> 01:47:57,270
And here's the here's the thing
about that. And they they they

1789
01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:59,460
bought a peering agreement,
because they wouldn't use let's

1790
01:47:59,460 --> 01:48:01,710
go back. We've talked about this
before, I'll talk about it

1791
01:48:01,710 --> 01:48:06,420
again. Netflix has these
appliances that you that all the

1792
01:48:06,420 --> 01:48:09,630
ISPs get for free, and you put
them on your server on your

1793
01:48:09,660 --> 01:48:13,830
system at the home office. And
now you get to direct access to

1794
01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:17,040
the most popular stuff, I think
100 terabytes where the movies,

1795
01:48:17,070 --> 01:48:18,960
I just want you to know that
when we started this

1796
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:22,710
conversation, this exact moment
our stream started, got

1797
01:48:22,710 --> 01:48:23,310
interrupted.

1798
01:48:24,900 --> 01:48:29,850
Yeah, by coincidence, it was on
Comcast, Comcast is just crappy

1799
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:33,270
that me, let's get to that.
That's beside the point. So they

1800
01:48:33,270 --> 01:48:36,180
have these appliances. Now, the
way net neutrality works, the

1801
01:48:36,180 --> 01:48:38,340
way I read it, the way they're
talking about this, those

1802
01:48:38,340 --> 01:48:42,750
appliances have got to go, you
can't have those that's unfair,

1803
01:48:42,870 --> 01:48:47,310
you have to have everything
brought in across the pipe from

1804
01:48:47,310 --> 01:48:50,490
Netflix Central, and then then
fed out, which will mean the

1805
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:53,400
service of you think Netflix was
bad. This would be terrible,

1806
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:56,070
because now it's good. It's
safe, because if you have to go

1807
01:48:56,070 --> 01:48:59,670
to Vudu to get their movies, and
then bring them in and then send

1808
01:48:59,670 --> 01:49:02,700
them out to the to the client,
you have to do the same thing

1809
01:49:02,700 --> 01:49:06,270
with Netflix, you can't have the
Netflix box sitting there feed

1810
01:49:06,270 --> 01:49:10,170
and stuff out. Comcast refused
to use these boxes. In fact,

1811
01:49:10,170 --> 01:49:14,640
Comcast was more net neutral at
that point than anybody else.

1812
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:16,920
And then they did a peering
agreement, then it became less

1813
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:19,350
net net neutral. And that got
everybody bent out of shape

1814
01:49:19,410 --> 01:49:22,140
because of the peering
agreement. I guess everybody

1815
01:49:22,140 --> 01:49:25,650
wanted Comcast to use the
Netflix appliances, but they

1816
01:49:25,650 --> 01:49:28,650
didn't do that. And they'd have
to have 1000s and 1000s of them

1817
01:49:28,650 --> 01:49:31,530
to make it work. Right. But
that's beside the point. This

1818
01:49:31,530 --> 01:49:34,500
whole thing is completely
misunderstood. It's a scam. It's

1819
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:37,530
talking about throttling and
what's going on but

1820
01:49:37,530 --> 01:49:44,250
hold on. I want to jump in for a
second. I assert, the entire

1821
01:49:44,250 --> 01:49:50,550
term was only introduced to get
to this point of stopping

1822
01:49:50,550 --> 01:49:55,620
encryption stopping free speech.
The term net neutrality is non

1823
01:49:55,620 --> 01:50:00,690
existent in the technical layers
of the internet. and how it

1824
01:50:00,690 --> 01:50:04,110
works. Just briefly, John Oh,
shut up. The peering agreements

1825
01:50:04,110 --> 01:50:08,820
is how the internet grew. And
back in the day, if you couldn't

1826
01:50:08,820 --> 01:50:11,250
get appearing agreement, which
meant I would send roughly the

1827
01:50:11,250 --> 01:50:14,250
same amount of traffic through
through the peer to the peering

1828
01:50:14,250 --> 01:50:17,430
point that you would send to me,
that's what no money changed

1829
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:20,910
hands. If you didn't have that
kind of traffic, you would have

1830
01:50:20,910 --> 01:50:24,960
to buy what was known as
transit. Okay. And it was all

1831
01:50:24,990 --> 01:50:28,230
you said, okay, yes, it's not
neutral. It's never been

1832
01:50:28,230 --> 01:50:31,830
neutral. It has nothing to do
with border gateway protocols

1833
01:50:31,830 --> 01:50:34,710
and how the internet really
works. It the term net

1834
01:50:34,710 --> 01:50:39,600
neutrality, made up by some
professor is bullshit.

1835
01:50:39,750 --> 01:50:42,330
No, he actually no, the guy who
dreamed up the term is

1836
01:50:42,330 --> 01:50:45,570
documented, and he now reneged
on it.

1837
01:50:45,900 --> 01:50:49,500
But it doesn't matter. It's
never been, you just said, I'm

1838
01:50:49,500 --> 01:50:50,040
just saying.

1839
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:54,000
I didn't. I'm just saying I said
so. So Wow. Okay, right.

1840
01:50:54,210 --> 01:51:00,450
Net neutrality has never existed
in the network. It's never been

1841
01:51:00,450 --> 01:51:03,570
there, the net with the internet
was not built on net neutrality.

1842
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:08,580
It was built on a bunch of crazy
networks strung together. And it

1843
01:51:08,580 --> 01:51:12,870
expanded through peering. It was
never just a lie. The President

1844
01:51:12,870 --> 01:51:13,650
is nearby,

1845
01:51:13,950 --> 01:51:15,360
a way to save money.

1846
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:20,040
And in fact, the internet when
it's first started, if you said,

1847
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:23,100
Hey, I'm a consumer looking to
buy something, people would yell

1848
01:51:23,100 --> 01:51:27,210
at you and kick you off. I guess
it's true. I haven't forgotten

1849
01:51:27,210 --> 01:51:27,480
that

1850
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:31,590
original network was running
through these big giant

1851
01:51:31,860 --> 01:51:34,590
government run pure and
university University

1852
01:51:34,620 --> 01:51:35,700
universities.

1853
01:51:35,820 --> 01:51:38,580
And then it turned out that
caught there was carriage costs,

1854
01:51:38,580 --> 01:51:41,190
because it cost so much money to
go through some of these, these

1855
01:51:41,310 --> 01:51:44,340
giant pipes. And, and people
said, well, you know, what, if

1856
01:51:44,370 --> 01:51:47,250
you and I hook up together,
because half of my traffic is

1857
01:51:47,250 --> 01:51:49,800
going to your people, and your
traffic is coming to me, we

1858
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,470
don't have to go through this
roundabout thing, and we just

1859
01:51:52,470 --> 01:51:54,540
talked to each other. Okay,
we'll sign that. Then they

1860
01:51:54,540 --> 01:51:57,420
signed off on and that's and
then that hearing room grew. And

1861
01:51:57,420 --> 01:52:01,980
then somebody got the wise idea,
Comcast, and others, Time Warner

1862
01:52:01,980 --> 01:52:05,580
said, you know, what we can do
is we can have cable modems. And

1863
01:52:05,580 --> 01:52:08,040
then we can buy backbones, and
then we can put these little

1864
01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:11,880
guys out of business. And now we
have these giant networks that

1865
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:13,200
couldn't be brought down by

1866
01:52:13,830 --> 01:52:18,510
I want to interject not entirely
true. And this goes back to the

1867
01:52:18,510 --> 01:52:23,460
level three in the earlier days
of where the guys who had the

1868
01:52:25,590 --> 01:52:30,480
Metropole metropolitan fiber,
they bought up and the smaller

1869
01:52:30,480 --> 01:52:35,160
guys all sold out, did Jack's
and all these guys who had

1870
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:38,250
little networks, they would fuck
it, let's get rich to sell out.

1871
01:52:38,250 --> 01:52:41,370
So that's not entirely true that
the big guys were evil. This was

1872
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:44,370
a very typical capitalistic
monopolistic way

1873
01:52:44,370 --> 01:52:47,400
of saying they were evil. I
never use the word evil I want

1874
01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:50,040
it could come across as that
people talk about the evil

1875
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:51,210
Comcast or the evil.

1876
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:54,270
Comcast can't get his act
together with my connection, I'm

1877
01:52:54,270 --> 01:52:54,450
going to

1878
01:52:54,450 --> 01:52:57,000
be well think about this evil
about that. Sure.

1879
01:52:58,050 --> 01:53:01,380
My connection on Comcast and I
am I'm convinced of this. And

1880
01:53:01,380 --> 01:53:04,350
I've actually discussed this on
DHL unplugged, I'll discuss it

1881
01:53:04,350 --> 01:53:07,680
again. I believe that Comcast,
once they set up business,

1882
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:11,190
Comcast, they shape their
traffic and send all the

1883
01:53:11,190 --> 01:53:14,610
bandwidth to the businesses
during the day, of course, and

1884
01:53:14,610 --> 01:53:17,700
then at five o'clock, when the
businesses are shutting down,

1885
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:21,450
boom, it goes back to the users
and and which is the consumers

1886
01:53:21,450 --> 01:53:24,780
you mean Can they come the
consumers you I still stick with

1887
01:53:24,780 --> 01:53:30,750
the word now not generations ago
consumer. So the users get there

1888
01:53:30,780 --> 01:53:35,010
because I here's my my
bandwidth, about 10 o'clock in

1889
01:53:35,010 --> 01:53:35,070
the

1890
01:53:35,070 --> 01:53:38,010
morning, you somehow you turn
this net neutrality conversation

1891
01:53:38,010 --> 01:53:40,530
into your own personal vendetta
against Comcast,

1892
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:43,710
yeah, okay, two megabits per
second throughout the day,

1893
01:53:43,710 --> 01:53:48,930
sometimes 500k Like round just
before lunch it off that hill,

1894
01:53:49,650 --> 01:53:54,030
and there's a bunch of slowdowns
it taken for two megabits fight

1895
01:53:54,030 --> 01:53:57,480
and this is gray out of bounds
with what they're promising in

1896
01:53:57,480 --> 01:54:00,660
their advertising. And I'm down
like this. Oh, it must be your

1897
01:54:00,660 --> 01:54:03,240
browser. Oh, it must be the
wireless. Oh, it must be this

1898
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:07,230
must be that these are these
great suits. experts out there

1899
01:54:07,230 --> 01:54:09,330
telling me what's going on five
o'clock.

1900
01:54:09,660 --> 01:54:13,470
John, you we know that you're on
shared bandwidth. That is not

1901
01:54:13,530 --> 01:54:16,410
that is the that is just a
shitty ISP that has nothing to

1902
01:54:16,410 --> 01:54:17,820
do with net neutrality.

1903
01:54:18,330 --> 01:54:24,510
Five o'clock, boom. 70 megabits
per second. Midnight's 70

1904
01:54:24,510 --> 01:54:27,660
megabits per second, the whole
thing is 70 megabits per second.

1905
01:54:27,750 --> 01:54:31,200
Then here it goes again, during
the day it drops down to two or

1906
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:37,050
500 500k. If I'm lucky, have two
pages won't load videos won't

1907
01:54:37,050 --> 01:54:39,840
work. Nothing works. I can't
podcast. We've known that for a

1908
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:43,170
long time been going on for you.
Right. All right. And then

1909
01:54:43,170 --> 01:54:45,390
Comcast as well. We'll send
somebody over.

1910
01:54:45,660 --> 01:54:48,060
But you're just an angry
consumer.

1911
01:54:48,420 --> 01:54:50,940
Yeah. Well, there you have it.
We continue

1912
01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:57,540
increased transparency. The
connection between consumers and

1913
01:54:57,540 --> 01:55:04,350
ISPs. I really hate you for
saying this. You're not You're

1914
01:55:04,380 --> 01:55:06,840
not You're not You're not.
You're the president. Me. I know

1915
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:12,540
the President. Oh, so he's the
connection between consumers and

1916
01:55:12,540 --> 01:55:15,930
the ISPs. We're not producers.
We're not academics. We're not

1917
01:55:15,930 --> 01:55:20,310
researchers. We're consumers. I
hate you for this. This so

1918
01:55:20,310 --> 01:55:26,430
called last mile. He's not the
owner. I know. Yours you living

1919
01:55:26,430 --> 01:55:31,860
in Hello 9093 colleagues. Last,
the last mile is not the only

1920
01:55:31,860 --> 01:55:37,110
place some sites might get
special treatment. By the way,

1921
01:55:37,110 --> 01:55:44,400
the last mile is completely
within the purview of the ISP to

1922
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:51,270
do whatever the hell they want.
So I am also asking the FCC, so

1923
01:55:51,330 --> 01:55:58,590
it says so comma, so yes, so
comma. Yes. I am also asking the

1924
01:55:58,590 --> 01:56:03,060
FCC to make full use of the
transparency authorities the

1925
01:56:03,060 --> 01:56:07,560
Court recently upheld and if
necessary to apply Net

1926
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:13,200
Neutrality rules, to points of
interconnection between the ISPs

1927
01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:18,270
and the rest of the internet,
which is peering this is this is

1928
01:56:18,270 --> 01:56:24,150
breaking the system. And the
final one, no paid

1929
01:56:24,150 --> 01:56:29,700
prioritization. Simply put
colon, no service should be

1930
01:56:29,700 --> 01:56:36,000
stuck in a quote, slow lane,
because it does not pay a fee.

1931
01:56:37,230 --> 01:56:40,680
That kind of gatekeeping would
undermine the level playing

1932
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:47,880
field essential to the Internet
growth. So comma, no, so comma,

1933
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:54,150
as I have before comma, I am
asking for an explicit ban on

1934
01:56:54,150 --> 01:56:58,650
paid prioritization and any
other restriction that has a

1935
01:56:58,650 --> 01:56:59,940
similar effect.

1936
01:57:01,770 --> 01:57:04,470
Well, it looks like Comcast
gonna have to cut off Netflix

1937
01:57:04,470 --> 01:57:05,790
with that peering arrangement.

1938
01:57:06,990 --> 01:57:10,650
Now Associated Press went
deeper. This is this is just the

1939
01:57:10,650 --> 01:57:19,380
the little blurb II thing that
the White House put out. And we

1940
01:57:19,380 --> 01:57:26,940
have here is a common Who is
this talking on Monday Obama

1941
01:57:26,940 --> 01:57:29,880
wade into the fray get this
Associated Press gave a major

1942
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:33,390
boost to interactive activist
but activists. I guess we're not

1943
01:57:33,390 --> 01:57:36,510
into the activist since we don't
believe in it, saying the FCC

1944
01:57:36,510 --> 01:57:38,910
should explicitly banned any
paid prioritization on the

1945
01:57:38,910 --> 01:57:43,050
internet. Obama also suggested
the FCC reclassify consumer

1946
01:57:43,050 --> 01:57:46,470
broadband as a public utility
under the 1934 communications

1947
01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:49,320
act. So there's no legal
ambiguity that would mean title

1948
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:54,240
to a quote, It is common sense
the same philosophy should guide

1949
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:57,120
any servers that is based on the
transmission of information,

1950
01:57:57,330 --> 01:58:00,600
whether a phone call or a packet
of data. He doesn't understand

1951
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:05,610
how this works. Pat, your
packets don't go in one stream.

1952
01:58:05,910 --> 01:58:06,780
It's a packet of data.

1953
01:58:08,730 --> 01:58:10,350
I think you made your point
about what he doesn't know what

1954
01:58:10,350 --> 01:58:12,540
he's talking about. But let's
continue with the read the read.

1955
01:58:12,570 --> 01:58:17,610
Yeah, well, the read I wanted to
get to net neutrality is the

1956
01:58:17,610 --> 01:58:23,610
idea. Here it is. Now, who is
fighting for this? First, this

1957
01:58:23,610 --> 01:58:26,010
tectonic shift and national
policy? Should it be adopted?

1958
01:58:26,070 --> 01:58:32,250
FBI would create dev no worse
devastating results. This is

1959
01:58:32,250 --> 01:58:34,740
Powell who said this who will
chair the FCC during the Bush

1960
01:58:34,740 --> 01:58:39,420
administration, consumer groups
and content providers hailed

1961
01:58:39,420 --> 01:58:42,870
Obama's move. These are people
who represent us, John, consumer

1962
01:58:42,870 --> 01:58:45,780
groups represent the consumers
because that's all we are saying

1963
01:58:46,230 --> 01:58:52,170
Bhama that actually did Halem
consumer, pale Obama, consumer

1964
01:58:52,170 --> 01:58:56,700
groups and content providers
hailed Obama's move with Netflix

1965
01:58:56,700 --> 01:59:01,770
posting to its Facebook page.
How fucking sad is this? I'll

1966
01:59:01,770 --> 01:59:05,400
read that again, with Netflix
posting to its Facebook page

1967
01:59:05,460 --> 01:59:08,250
that consumers should pick
winners and losers on the

1968
01:59:08,250 --> 01:59:14,190
internet, not broadband
gatekeepers. The oh my god,

1969
01:59:14,430 --> 01:59:18,210
okay, net neutrality here. This
is associated press from the

1970
01:59:19,170 --> 01:59:24,450
consumer groups who hail Obama.
Net Neutrality is the idea that

1971
01:59:24,450 --> 01:59:28,410
Internet Service Providers
shouldn't block slow or

1972
01:59:28,410 --> 01:59:33,000
manipulate data moving across
its networks. As long as content

1973
01:59:33,030 --> 01:59:38,460
isn't against the law comma,
such as child pornography, or

1974
01:59:38,460 --> 01:59:44,070
pirated music. A file or video
posted on one site will load

1975
01:59:44,070 --> 01:59:48,480
generally at the same speed as a
similarly sized file or video on

1976
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:56,790
another site. Okay. This is
bullshit. It's not that's not

1977
01:59:56,790 --> 02:00:02,010
true. There could be a different
routes multiple hops will not

1978
02:00:02,010 --> 02:00:04,170
the will. And that's what that
to say the general Yeah,

1979
02:00:04,500 --> 02:00:07,020
beating up what we already know.
I think it would I think the

1980
02:00:07,020 --> 02:00:09,150
point you made about the
encryption and then the

1981
02:00:09,150 --> 02:00:11,970
lawfulness unlawfulness is what
this is really all about.

1982
02:00:12,120 --> 02:00:16,110
arguing the technology wishes
you keep drifting into is

1983
02:00:16,110 --> 02:00:17,100
fruitless.

1984
02:00:17,580 --> 02:00:20,010
I just thought about I'm not
arguing the technology. I'm

1985
02:00:20,010 --> 02:00:22,050
correcting the yes, the

1986
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:25,110
fruitless. Fruitless. Okay.

1987
02:00:25,500 --> 02:00:28,320
Well, apparently just looking
from the comments, it's

1988
02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:31,980
fruitless to argue at all
because clearly, I'm just all in

1989
02:00:31,980 --> 02:00:36,030
on the big the big guys and I
love Comcast and I'm paying by

1990
02:00:37,530 --> 02:00:41,340
Friday, right, and I dream and
masturbate. I was Rick. I'm

1991
02:00:41,340 --> 02:00:41,670
sorry.

1992
02:00:41,910 --> 02:00:43,890
You the Koch brothers. Dude.

1993
02:00:44,340 --> 02:00:47,130
That's, I'm waiting. I'm waiting
for that. It's

1994
02:00:47,130 --> 02:00:49,590
big oil. Yeah, that's talking.

1995
02:00:49,620 --> 02:00:54,480
But then Ted Cruz is the biggest
boob moron douche bag and I'll

1996
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:55,800
say the retard

1997
02:00:55,890 --> 02:00:59,940
is this news. Ted Cruz. You've
hated Ted Cruz from the

1998
02:00:59,940 --> 02:01:01,530
beginning of the show. No, hit
it. I've

1999
02:01:01,530 --> 02:01:05,280
never hated him. Ted Cruz clip
No, I don't have no it's a quote

2000
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:10,020
no clip. Net Neutrality is Obama
care for the internet? You

2001
02:01:10,020 --> 02:01:14,850
dickhead. You stupid, stupid,
stupid. It's this stupid.

2002
02:01:15,870 --> 02:01:21,840
Stupid, stupid, stupid man. With
your stupid Goldman Sachs tax

2003
02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:25,230
Stupid, stupid wife. You stupid
people.

2004
02:01:25,380 --> 02:01:27,180
Okay, I think you made your
point.

2005
02:01:27,210 --> 02:01:28,350
I'm done. I'm done. It

2006
02:01:28,350 --> 02:01:29,880
was BS. You depressed?

2007
02:01:30,390 --> 02:01:35,700
Yes. Because we're gonna I need
to figure out a career. In five

2008
02:01:35,700 --> 02:01:37,800
years, I'll have no job. Yours.
Oh,

2009
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:40,200
yeah, within five. Once this
takes place. And of course,

2010
02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:44,160
everyone's all in on it. I said
about the number of people that

2011
02:01:44,160 --> 02:01:48,510
you see through it, I can count
on one hand, and you only have

2012
02:01:48,510 --> 02:01:50,640
three. I'm sure a lot of our
listeners are in agreement. But

2013
02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:52,800
most of them probably still
don't know what they're talking

2014
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:57,060
about. And they made out may or
may not care. But but the people

2015
02:01:57,060 --> 02:02:01,050
I know that sincerely understand
that this is a lead in to a

2016
02:02:01,050 --> 02:02:03,900
disaster letting the government
run the internet, which is what

2017
02:02:03,930 --> 02:02:05,640
of course the government wants
to do and

2018
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:07,500
to outlaw encryption.

2019
02:02:07,620 --> 02:02:11,700
And what's great is that, to me,
is the way they've sold it,

2020
02:02:11,700 --> 02:02:15,270
which is very much like the I
don't want to equate it with

2021
02:02:15,270 --> 02:02:19,410
global warming. But they've sold
it as a very nice at the

2022
02:02:19,410 --> 02:02:23,310
narrative is dynamite. And
they've sold everybody on it.

2023
02:02:23,550 --> 02:02:28,050
And the term works so well as it
is. And you'd listen to these

2024
02:02:28,050 --> 02:02:31,710
guys on these podcasts. And they
go on and on about it. Because

2025
02:02:31,710 --> 02:02:34,410
if if they don't pass that
neutrality, they're out of

2026
02:02:34,410 --> 02:02:38,430
business somehow. That works.
Yes. What's changing? I mean,

2027
02:02:38,430 --> 02:02:41,190
what if they didn't, if we just
dropped the whole argument

2028
02:02:41,190 --> 02:02:45,480
dropped the idea what's going to
change is Comcast all of a

2029
02:02:45,480 --> 02:02:48,960
sudden going to say, you know, I
don't like that guy's podcast,

2030
02:02:48,990 --> 02:02:52,950
that's that's throttling. I
don't see that they care. That

2031
02:02:53,010 --> 02:02:54,240
would be the point.

2032
02:02:54,750 --> 02:02:57,480
No, because people don't care
about pod. Don't care about

2033
02:02:57,480 --> 02:02:58,470
Netflix wants

2034
02:02:58,470 --> 02:03:01,470
to do this. The government wants
to throttle stuff. The

2035
02:03:01,470 --> 02:03:04,890
government wants to end
encryption. I think he doesn't

2036
02:03:04,890 --> 02:03:07,440
care. As far as they're
concerned. Go ahead and download

2037
02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:10,200
all the music you want. Just
make sure you pay are your bill.

2038
02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:14,490
Yeah. They don't care about
downloading music. It's only

2039
02:03:14,490 --> 02:03:17,820
because the government forces
them to care about it. There's

2040
02:03:18,060 --> 02:03:20,880
their concern is more work. Why
would they put themselves

2041
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:24,180
through doing more work? Oh,
let's find a couple of

2042
02:03:24,180 --> 02:03:27,270
objectionable podcasts and
throttle them. Let's throttle

2043
02:03:27,270 --> 02:03:29,910
them. Let's throttle them.
That's not going to do this.

2044
02:03:29,910 --> 02:03:33,000
Why? Why would they do that?
Have you care?

2045
02:03:33,030 --> 02:03:35,070
Have you cast your Koch brothers
check yet?

2046
02:03:36,330 --> 02:03:42,420
I get it right here. 100,000
million dollars. Look, brothers

2047
02:03:42,420 --> 02:03:44,370
don't even listen to our show.
I've,

2048
02:03:44,550 --> 02:03:48,630
I've put an intro to distributed
hash tables under the NA tech

2049
02:03:48,630 --> 02:03:50,820
heading in the show notes.
People should read that that's

2050
02:03:50,820 --> 02:03:56,250
where we're headed. That's the
only way to be able to maybe get

2051
02:03:56,250 --> 02:03:57,180
the seven years.

2052
02:03:58,350 --> 02:04:01,050
You know what I think is great
as the way they've sold this

2053
02:04:01,050 --> 02:04:04,950
because you know the FCC is they
see the future. The FCC, the

2054
02:04:04,950 --> 02:04:08,670
broadcasting thing is a slow
dying business is not dying

2055
02:04:08,670 --> 02:04:11,370
tomorrow. It's not dying in 10
years, but it's dying. There's

2056
02:04:11,370 --> 02:04:14,610
going to be more people
broadcasting, like we're doing

2057
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:17,550
over the internet, using the
internet as a transport vehicle,

2058
02:04:17,670 --> 02:04:21,210
because it's cheaper, is more
versatile that goes all over the

2059
02:04:21,210 --> 02:04:24,390
world is you can't do that with
a radio transmitter. It's not

2060
02:04:24,390 --> 02:04:27,240
possible and it costs a lot of
money to run those things. The

2061
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:30,420
FCC looks at this and say, well,
we got to regulate the damned

2062
02:04:30,420 --> 02:04:33,480
radio and television and we get
the talent that they get to

2063
02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:38,280
$350,000 fine for showing
somebody's nipple and or cussing

2064
02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:41,520
once or twice or getting let's
get rid of Howard Stern let me

2065
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:41,700
give

2066
02:04:41,700 --> 02:04:47,250
you let me give you a better
analogy. I am a FCC licensed

2067
02:04:47,730 --> 02:04:50,970
amateur radio operator by
there's many spectrum that I may

2068
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:58,350
operate in up to 1500 watts. I
can't say fuck. I can't sell

2069
02:04:58,350 --> 02:05:02,790
something. I can't Broadcast. I
can no I can't do it. There's no

2070
02:05:02,790 --> 02:05:08,160
free speech on ham radio? No.
Because the FCC licenses it.

2071
02:05:08,370 --> 02:05:11,160
Right. So hello. And we

2072
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:14,460
know for a fact if you start
looking into the record, they've

2073
02:05:14,460 --> 02:05:18,450
been trying to get their little
mitts around cable TV. Yeah,

2074
02:05:18,510 --> 02:05:21,480
yeah. Oh, is there some way we
could get a hold of cable TV so

2075
02:05:21,480 --> 02:05:24,300
we could regulate it. And then
of course, the real goal here is

2076
02:05:24,300 --> 02:05:26,250
this charge for licenses you
have to pay. It's

2077
02:05:26,250 --> 02:05:28,350
very important what you're
saying I need to stop you. This

2078
02:05:28,350 --> 02:05:34,710
is really important. Cable TV is
not regulated by the FCC. And

2079
02:05:34,710 --> 02:05:40,590
this was always the problem. The
cable companies and the cable

2080
02:05:40,590 --> 02:05:43,080
company used to be little guys
who thought they were broadcast

2081
02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:46,590
networks. And they know, man,
the Cable Ace awards. I had to

2082
02:05:46,830 --> 02:05:50,880
schmooze with their ugly as
wives for years at MTV, because

2083
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:56,100
they were the gatekeepers. They
would they determined if MTV was

2084
02:05:56,100 --> 02:06:00,000
in the standard basic package or
if it was a premium service. FCC

2085
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:04,860
has no regulation, you say this
is what is this is why

2086
02:06:05,670 --> 02:06:10,440
classifying it as a title to
service with all video moving

2087
02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:15,600
slowly to Internet Protocol.
This is when they when they do

2088
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:21,060
that, then they actually have a
real grip on the cable company

2089
02:06:21,060 --> 02:06:24,210
as you say. It's this is what
they've been right. What is it?

2090
02:06:24,210 --> 02:06:28,110
Not 30 years they've been trying
to do this? Yes. Do you need old

2091
02:06:28,110 --> 02:06:30,600
guys like us to be able to look
into the history and tell you

2092
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:31,200
this? People

2093
02:06:31,680 --> 02:06:33,960
have been trying to do this
forever, and they've been

2094
02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:38,910
unsuccessful? Now this is their
backdoor. This is a backdoor

2095
02:06:38,910 --> 02:06:42,420
methodology to get a hold of all
that stuff. That cable, all the

2096
02:06:42,420 --> 02:06:45,330
cable programming. Because
there's a lot of subversive

2097
02:06:45,330 --> 02:06:48,990
stuff on cable TV, there's a lot
of cussing, there's nudity,

2098
02:06:49,140 --> 02:06:51,930
there's all these things that we
don't want because some kid

2099
02:06:51,930 --> 02:06:56,250
might see it, you know, and the
kid in today's world by virtue

2100
02:06:56,250 --> 02:06:58,950
of the fact that they see a lot
of nudity they go what so what?

2101
02:06:59,220 --> 02:07:02,400
Oh, there's a tip, big deal. I
mean, in Europe, that's been you

2102
02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:05,190
know, the standard thing even on
broadcasting there's tickets

2103
02:07:05,190 --> 02:07:07,770
there all over the place. But
you know, oh, God, you know,

2104
02:07:07,770 --> 02:07:11,190
let's just fight. It's finally
because the FCC likes to find

2105
02:07:11,190 --> 02:07:14,280
these things that are a bunch of
stooges that are on the FCC.

2106
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:16,710
They're always a bunch of
idiots. If you listen, go listen

2107
02:07:16,710 --> 02:07:19,440
to some of their events that
they have some of their meeting

2108
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:23,250
some of their questions and
answers are horrible. Yeah, this

2109
02:07:23,250 --> 02:07:25,500
is what this is what they're up
to in the net neutrality thing.

2110
02:07:25,500 --> 02:07:30,270
They must be just due to high
fiving constantly right now. And

2111
02:07:31,050 --> 02:07:35,160
with the notion that or the fact
that the public at large, all

2112
02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:35,910
the podcasts are

2113
02:07:35,970 --> 02:07:42,180
all in all in in their stroking
their white pussies with glee,

2114
02:07:43,200 --> 02:07:44,370
as it were. Yeah.

2115
02:07:46,170 --> 02:07:51,240
I will. I will add to that, that
this is a very unique American

2116
02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:57,150
problem. In some regard, this is
why it's starting here. Because

2117
02:07:58,140 --> 02:08:01,230
and I'm generalizing. So I will
preface by saying in general,

2118
02:08:01,770 --> 02:08:09,750
Americans are so hung up over
public display of body parts and

2119
02:08:09,750 --> 02:08:14,130
sexuality and breasts. So it's
funny Mickey the other day she's

2120
02:08:15,090 --> 02:08:17,820
okay, she's wearing a sweater.
So do you like the sweater that

2121
02:08:17,850 --> 02:08:20,790
we I'm very good at this. I do
the fashion show thing. I said

2122
02:08:20,790 --> 02:08:24,510
no. Try the other shoes. And I'm
good at this. I'm actually I'm

2123
02:08:24,510 --> 02:08:27,060
good at this. I'm sure you are
and so she's What do you think

2124
02:08:27,060 --> 02:08:30,240
this sweater says? I love this
sweater is really great. Ah, can

2125
02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:35,700
I can take my bra off? Well,
what is the bra for is it said

2126
02:08:35,700 --> 02:08:40,260
well to my nipples don't show. I
said oh, do you wear a bra when

2127
02:08:40,260 --> 02:08:44,310
you're in Amsterdam says no.
Here in America. All the guys

2128
02:08:44,310 --> 02:08:44,460
like

2129
02:08:48,600 --> 02:09:01,260
yes, they do. Obviously what
happens? Sad, sad. Do it that's

2130
02:09:01,260 --> 02:09:04,140
just the way it is. And these
guys reflect that and then they

2131
02:09:04,140 --> 02:09:08,070
push it and they make sure that
you don't have nipple showing or

2132
02:09:08,130 --> 02:09:11,910
anything and that once they get
a hold of the internet, there's

2133
02:09:11,910 --> 02:09:17,100
a lot of changes a lot of
nipples. Once they once the FCCU

2134
02:09:17,130 --> 02:09:21,000
which is they're headed for once
they own the internet as a as a

2135
02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:24,960
regulatory body under this bull
crap. Once they're in charge.

2136
02:09:25,140 --> 02:09:29,340
You watch what happens and yeah,
it's gonna be bad.

2137
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:35,490
That's why this video went
viral. This is another example.

2138
02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:40,950
Another example from an American
perspective. Oh, this is Megan

2139
02:09:40,950 --> 02:09:43,350
Kelly introducing Mike Huckabee,

2140
02:09:43,380 --> 02:09:45,690
Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee,
who's the host of pocket of

2141
02:09:45,690 --> 02:09:47,700
Huckabee right here on the Fox
News Channel.

2142
02:09:51,450 --> 02:09:52,890
She must be find on

2143
02:09:57,930 --> 02:10:01,860
the show, but Joanie didn't no
agenda. I imagine all the people

2144
02:10:01,860 --> 02:10:03,870
who could do that. Oh, yeah,
that'd be fun

2145
02:10:11,099 --> 02:10:13,559
I want to thank a few people. i
By the way, we both want to

2146
02:10:13,559 --> 02:10:16,289
thank him, obviously. But I want
to say I hope we don't talk

2147
02:10:16,289 --> 02:10:20,069
about net neutrality anymore. I
think it's a done deal. We're on

2148
02:10:20,069 --> 02:10:22,409
the outside looking in. And
that's just the way it is. I

2149
02:10:22,409 --> 02:10:24,749
don't think beating a dead horse
it does. We're not changing

2150
02:10:24,749 --> 02:10:28,619
anybody's mind. We're gonna
change anyone's mind.

2151
02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:33,270
Now. Well, can we own the only
thing I'd like to do? Maybe I

2152
02:10:33,270 --> 02:10:38,610
just want to somewhere, be in
writing. Dear people of Earth

2153
02:10:38,640 --> 02:10:42,000
like, like the Yoko Ono damn
people up, I've

2154
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:45,120
written two or three pieces
doing exactly what you suggest,

2155
02:10:45,210 --> 02:10:49,080
which was referred to Twitter
guys. Oh, look at this. He said

2156
02:10:49,080 --> 02:10:51,720
this is I agree with him. Yeah,
they already agreed with me

2157
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:55,500
before I wrote it. And you know,
yeah, I don't care. Whatever you

2158
02:10:55,500 --> 02:10:58,080
think is bowl crabs. DeVore. I
tried to get attention,

2159
02:10:58,110 --> 02:10:58,770
trolling,

2160
02:10:59,219 --> 02:11:02,819
trolling, trolling. And he's the
guy that said cable modems would

2161
02:11:02,819 --> 02:11:03,749
never work.

2162
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:09,270
Sorry, there's always something
I said. Sorry. There's that one.

2163
02:11:09,420 --> 02:11:13,470
i Yeah, that's what it leads.
They don't work. By the way. The

2164
02:11:13,470 --> 02:11:15,720
way I'm getting my bandwidth is
Devin was right.

2165
02:11:18,390 --> 02:11:21,270
By the way, they believe they
are no one ever says anything

2166
02:11:21,270 --> 02:11:25,830
about what I used to say. Well,
you put it in writing. I did

2167
02:11:25,830 --> 02:11:27,750
lots of interviews, but that
doesn't count.

2168
02:11:27,900 --> 02:11:30,870
No, no. You can say anything you
want over the it's interesting

2169
02:11:30,870 --> 02:11:35,220
to me that in the broadcast
medium, it's like completely set

2170
02:11:35,220 --> 02:11:38,640
aside. It's not even even
transcripts. Don't get picked

2171
02:11:38,640 --> 02:11:40,890
up. It's just a different thing
than when you write a thoughtful

2172
02:11:40,890 --> 02:11:41,370
essay.

2173
02:11:41,400 --> 02:11:44,520
Okay, well, I'm not going to do
that anytime soon. Let's thank

2174
02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:46,500
our producers here who are
voting

2175
02:11:46,650 --> 02:11:56,580
Fabrice shumi in Anaheim 12345
favorite number he said the job

2176
02:11:56,580 --> 02:11:59,580
karma really works he got his
dream job building race cars for

2177
02:11:59,580 --> 02:12:00,210
a living he

2178
02:12:00,210 --> 02:12:03,330
did you see Yeah, he sent a
picture. That picture Oh,

2179
02:12:03,780 --> 02:12:06,300
but he's building race. You know
we need it. Why should we even

2180
02:12:06,300 --> 02:12:10,380
be buying cars we should just
get we must have enough

2181
02:12:10,380 --> 02:12:12,810
listeners out there that can put
together a jalopy that's got a

2182
02:12:12,810 --> 02:12:13,110
pig.

2183
02:12:13,710 --> 02:12:17,010
If someone puts together a
jalopy I will drive it

2184
02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:21,690
with a big engine. Like a hot
rod with a blower on it on the

2185
02:12:21,690 --> 02:12:23,730
front. Big blower sitting on the
top and

2186
02:12:23,730 --> 02:12:27,060
you can put any advertising you
want on the side. I will drive

2187
02:12:27,060 --> 02:12:27,360
it.

2188
02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:29,670
I will drive I will do the same.

2189
02:12:29,700 --> 02:12:33,660
I want it not to be able to fit
in the garage. I got a parking

2190
02:12:33,660 --> 02:12:37,080
on the street. Yeah, a monster
truck. Yeah, I'm

2191
02:12:38,130 --> 02:12:43,140
going to for Michael succow In
Belmar New Jersey. 12345. Greg

2192
02:12:43,260 --> 02:12:49,530
Pasmore in Ha ha Salon de
Halland hallandale. No, get it

2193
02:12:49,650 --> 02:12:52,530
Hallandale Beach, Florida never
heard of that areas. And when

2194
02:12:52,560 --> 02:12:56,700
1199 Brian Williams in
Streamwood. Illinois. It was

2195
02:12:56,700 --> 02:13:04,440
always coming in. 7373 73 is the
you Brian has 70 threes. I think

2196
02:13:04,440 --> 02:13:08,010
he's a knight. I could be wrong,
sir. Jimmy free hollow books.

2197
02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:12,450
6960. Now we did get a few of
these. I got a note from Carrie.

2198
02:13:12,450 --> 02:13:17,220
Sian, by the way Oh, started the
6969 thing. She hasn't she

2199
02:13:17,220 --> 02:13:20,400
stopped listening to the show.
Now she's back on board. Oh,

2200
02:13:21,270 --> 02:13:23,610
that's all I know. She's been
apparently been traveling for

2201
02:13:23,610 --> 02:13:25,410
some reason. And she doesn't
explain it very

2202
02:13:25,470 --> 02:13:28,680
well. So you know, it's hard to
podcast. I had an idea about

2203
02:13:28,680 --> 02:13:31,950
that, by the way. Remind me
after the show. I have another

2204
02:13:31,950 --> 02:13:33,540
one of our great business ideas.

2205
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:36,750
Okay, let me write this down.
That will never execute. No,

2206
02:13:36,750 --> 02:13:38,190
that's what we do. We talk about
him,

2207
02:13:38,280 --> 02:13:42,270
but I want to talk about it with
you first. And then we can talk

2208
02:13:42,300 --> 02:13:44,370
about how we should then we can
forget to talk about it on the

2209
02:13:44,370 --> 02:13:44,910
show.

2210
02:13:45,720 --> 02:13:47,940
Okay, we'll do it. We'll do
that. I got it written down in

2211
02:13:47,940 --> 02:13:52,680
the Red Book. Okay, got it. Then
we have who's been around he

2212
02:13:52,680 --> 02:13:54,090
wants to play it Bill and Ted
six.

2213
02:13:55,230 --> 02:13:57,390
What I don't even know what the
jingle looks like.

2214
02:13:57,599 --> 02:14:01,739
It's just 6969 Those guys Yeah,

2215
02:14:01,740 --> 02:14:04,170
no, I'm it's Bill and Ted, but I
don't even know

2216
02:14:04,170 --> 02:14:07,590
how to play that jingle. Which
makes sense in this little I

2217
02:14:07,590 --> 02:14:08,310
understand,

2218
02:14:08,310 --> 02:14:11,280
but I must have I got it. I
gotta get it. I got it. I gotta

2219
02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:19,170
I gotta gotta gotta have it. Oh,
here it is. 6969 done.

2220
02:14:19,380 --> 02:14:22,110
That's the one we used to use.
And then we stopped using it

2221
02:14:22,110 --> 02:14:27,810
because we did streak ended, sir
Jim of Beverly Hills zoo Cal.

2222
02:14:28,980 --> 02:14:33,450
But it says from obviously
Beverly Hills. I'd be lost

2223
02:14:33,450 --> 02:14:35,670
without you guys. 60 minutes.
He's nicer. Patrick Coble,

2224
02:14:35,670 --> 02:14:41,040
Nashville, Tennessee. 6969.
Eric, as Ness in Lawndale,

2225
02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:46,800
California same 6969 John Claude
Schmidt, John Claude Schmidt

2226
02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:55,290
Schmid in Costa Mesa, karma to
Andre and Kevin. Oscar into Tao

2227
02:14:56,220 --> 02:15:01,530
Oscar Nadal wears this big
tennis player 60s He's 91 I

2228
02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:07,230
think we have a Stephen Dallas.
Austin, Mexico, Mako, sir. That

2229
02:15:07,230 --> 02:15:08,760
is. Oh, yeah, go ahead. Sorry,

2230
02:15:08,790 --> 02:15:16,110
sir herb of salt salt freak.
Sugar Hill GA 6969. Sir James

2231
02:15:17,730 --> 02:15:20,430
applies that to Tom's
knighthood.

2232
02:15:20,639 --> 02:15:25,469
Okay? Yeah, Sir James Cates in
Virginia Beach Virginia 6969

2233
02:15:25,469 --> 02:15:29,429
Jeremiah Trible tribal tribal
tribals gotta be tribal.

2234
02:15:30,569 --> 02:15:35,069
Longview, Texas. Six nice his
name Michael Henderson Peachtree

2235
02:15:35,069 --> 02:15:38,159
corners GA. I think that's
everywhere in Georgia and that

2236
02:15:38,159 --> 02:15:44,579
closes the 6969 segment now we
got club Chad Inman 66 dot 90

2237
02:15:44,579 --> 02:15:46,979
which is a one I kind of
encouraged because it's this

2238
02:15:47,009 --> 02:15:50,999
show 669 And that would be right
plus angle ease if you read this

2239
02:15:50,999 --> 02:15:56,309
no one other guy came in with
that Joshua Thea Dorsen I

2240
02:15:56,609 --> 02:15:58,019
believe is weighed in Hilton

2241
02:15:58,050 --> 02:16:03,390
All right, he's Did you read his
note? He says just wanted to let

2242
02:16:03,390 --> 02:16:07,020
you know that no agenda
methodology scored me and 88.6

2243
02:16:07,020 --> 02:16:10,380
to one win and Australia's race
that stops a nation the

2244
02:16:10,380 --> 02:16:14,520
Melbourne Cup horse race. Not
only did the favorite come last

2245
02:16:14,520 --> 02:16:21,180
and die of heart failure, a
German a German horse won. So

2246
02:16:21,180 --> 02:16:25,290
that's why sharing some of his
winnings with us. We should have

2247
02:16:25,290 --> 02:16:30,210
been in on that one. The
favorite horse died. German

2248
02:16:30,210 --> 02:16:34,710
course one V Havana making
favorite of horses die. They

2249
02:16:34,710 --> 02:16:37,320
die. They die. Their favorite
will die.

2250
02:16:37,740 --> 02:16:41,310
Stacy St. jumpstarted
Christopher Davidson in Bella

2251
02:16:41,310 --> 02:16:49,530
Vista, Arkansas. 6660s Stacy St.
Armand Kingston, Ontario. 6439.

2252
02:16:49,530 --> 02:16:55,170
Nicole Martini in Stevens
stoinis. Probably pronounce that

2253
02:16:55,170 --> 02:16:56,610
Stuyvesant story business.

2254
02:16:58,200 --> 02:17:02,370
Just a one in New Yorker six.
Stuyvesant Stuyvesant. Holy

2255
02:17:02,370 --> 02:17:06,540
crap. Can I just interject for
one moment? Yeah. You know, even

2256
02:17:06,540 --> 02:17:10,890
though Technology News has is
called only about phones, and

2257
02:17:10,890 --> 02:17:14,970
apparently comet landings, and
it's just crap. I will say

2258
02:17:14,970 --> 02:17:18,420
looking at this new CNN
technology reporter forgetting

2259
02:17:18,420 --> 02:17:20,160
some dynamite looking women do

2260
02:17:20,190 --> 02:17:22,830
you know you're just doing this
because I don't get CNN anymore.

2261
02:17:22,830 --> 02:17:23,340
RACHEL

2262
02:17:23,340 --> 02:17:25,890
CRANE. Hello, Rachel. Alright,
keep going.

2263
02:17:25,889 --> 02:17:28,139
I'm gonna look around. Let me
write his name down RACHEL

2264
02:17:28,139 --> 02:17:28,709
CRANE.

2265
02:17:28,829 --> 02:17:32,009
She may I think she's the I
think she's the newest women on

2266
02:17:32,009 --> 02:17:35,099
AlJazeera. Are you waiting to
see RACHEL CRANE? She is a

2267
02:17:35,099 --> 02:17:35,819
classic.

2268
02:17:35,820 --> 02:17:38,640
Okay, let's get on with it. My
goodness. By the way, there's a

2269
02:17:38,640 --> 02:17:41,640
birthday involved and Nicole
Martini. I think we have that

2270
02:17:41,640 --> 02:17:45,540
one lined up Keith Ryan
Bloomfield, Connecticut. 5678

2271
02:17:45,540 --> 02:17:52,770
Rad new per tuck to divide 55
Sir J D in San Jose, California.

2272
02:17:52,770 --> 02:17:57,870
5510 went back and forth with
him over over my following him

2273
02:17:57,870 --> 02:18:00,810
on Twitter, which I did and then
he donated weight he's always

2274
02:18:00,810 --> 02:18:05,130
donating Kevin deal Charlotte,
North Carolina, Sir Kevin Payne

2275
02:18:05,130 --> 02:18:09,540
and Chantilly Virginia 5069 and
these are all $50 donors which

2276
02:18:09,540 --> 02:18:14,970
include Brandon sev why why?
Patricia Worthington in Miami,

2277
02:18:15,330 --> 02:18:19,800
Mike Westerfield Parts Unknown
Jakhu but what what? SCIAC what?

2278
02:18:19,830 --> 02:18:23,670
Warjack? I'm guessing North
Vancouver, then I would say

2279
02:18:23,669 --> 02:18:28,049
Jacob it would be Jacob, Jakob.
Jakob Jacob. I said Jacob.

2280
02:18:28,410 --> 02:18:33,780
And I'd say Jakob, okay. Paul
groves in Wangaratta. Victoria,

2281
02:18:33,780 --> 02:18:39,060
Australia Antonio McMullen.
Parts Hudson, Paul Vela, in

2282
02:18:39,090 --> 02:18:44,880
Milton Keynes. Alexander should
Covey and Moscow. Patrick maqam

2283
02:18:44,880 --> 02:18:50,280
in Long Island City, cherry
wensen Langley, Washington and

2284
02:18:50,280 --> 02:18:55,140
finally Vincent K. haymes. in
Decatur, Alabama.

2285
02:18:55,139 --> 02:18:58,109
I have a note from Terry. Oh, I

2286
02:18:58,110 --> 02:19:01,140
want to say yeah, Terry wins.
It's not really a note. Terry

2287
02:19:01,140 --> 02:19:05,340
wins. I want to sense this
check. But the whole envelope is

2288
02:19:05,340 --> 02:19:08,520
some sort of Matt, what do you
call when you bend paper? It's

2289
02:19:08,520 --> 02:19:08,940
called.

2290
02:19:11,580 --> 02:19:14,370
Now this the origami?

2291
02:19:14,610 --> 02:19:18,780
Yeah, origami. So she sent this
huge origami thing with a with a

2292
02:19:18,780 --> 02:19:22,110
seal on the back. And it's like
you take it off and then it's

2293
02:19:22,110 --> 02:19:25,290
like one sheet of paper with a
check. And I used that was the

2294
02:19:25,290 --> 02:19:29,190
most dangerous envelope I've
ever seen. Okay, it was kind of

2295
02:19:29,190 --> 02:19:32,070
cute though. But it didn't even
say anything in there. Vincent

2296
02:19:32,070 --> 02:19:35,310
que haymes. in Decatur, Alabama
just said that at 50 bucks. And

2297
02:19:35,310 --> 02:19:42,030
finally last and not least was
Shane peed in from parts of his

2298
02:19:42,030 --> 02:19:44,370
axes. I don't know where he's
from. It seems like he's from

2299
02:19:44,370 --> 02:19:49,620
Atlanta. And he sent the long
note complaining about his wife

2300
02:19:49,980 --> 02:19:55,140
and he's a night and it's also
as the oldest daughter's sixth

2301
02:19:55,140 --> 02:19:57,210
birthday do I don't know if
that's on the list. No, I'm

2302
02:19:57,210 --> 02:20:02,520
think you're confusing. Is that
was that the was that the no

2303
02:20:02,520 --> 02:20:04,860
idea? Right? You're right. He
was complaining about his wife

2304
02:20:04,860 --> 02:20:07,650
and it's his daughter's. I don't
know. Does she have a name?

2305
02:20:09,150 --> 02:20:11,430
Laney Laney Hold on? I don't
think that's on the list.

2306
02:20:11,430 --> 02:20:11,910
Actually. Let

2307
02:20:11,910 --> 02:20:15,780
me yeah, my give my daughter
Laney some birthday love. And

2308
02:20:15,780 --> 02:20:16,350
hold on.

2309
02:20:16,560 --> 02:20:23,340
So that's Laney from Shane,
daddy shame.

2310
02:20:23,850 --> 02:20:26,430
Yes. And the resolute as to the
rest of the note, we're really

2311
02:20:26,430 --> 02:20:31,080
not going to sit here and he was
saying that domestic disputes

2312
02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:33,990
he rescinded that, by the way
and, you know, I don't follow up

2313
02:20:33,990 --> 02:20:35,460
notes. Yeah. Yeah,

2314
02:20:35,490 --> 02:20:39,810
but he's definitely a complaint
to make. It was probably legit.

2315
02:20:39,810 --> 02:20:43,320
Yeah. But no, okay. It made me
if you

2316
02:20:47,730 --> 02:20:52,230
are just a horrible, man. That's
really bad. That's really bad.

2317
02:20:52,710 --> 02:20:58,770
Well, okay, a light. Light on in
on both ends of it. We will be

2318
02:20:58,770 --> 02:21:02,640
doing a show on Sunday. I'll be
in New York. So highly

2319
02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:05,460
appreciate anything that we can

2320
02:21:05,730 --> 02:21:08,700
be. Yeah, we're gonna have a
show coming up on Sunday. 670.

2321
02:21:08,940 --> 02:21:10,920
So think of us in the meantime,

2322
02:21:10,980 --> 02:21:14,580
RACHEL CRANE joined CNN is the
network's newest digital

2323
02:21:14,580 --> 02:21:18,180
correspondent, okay, where she
covers Pop Culture and

2324
02:21:18,180 --> 02:21:18,960
Innovation.

2325
02:21:19,289 --> 02:21:22,559
Oh, yeah. She's the everyone's
social network. Uh huh.

2326
02:21:22,920 --> 02:21:26,310
In this role, she'll be creating
original video content related

2327
02:21:26,310 --> 02:21:32,220
to her beat to run across across
CNNs platforms. She comes to us

2328
02:21:32,220 --> 02:21:34,860
from Bloomberg, where she was a
technology and innovation

2329
02:21:34,860 --> 02:21:37,980
correspondent who hosted and
produced Blum blog, Bloomberg

2330
02:21:37,980 --> 02:21:42,150
brink. A show highlighting
cutting edge technology and new

2331
02:21:42,150 --> 02:21:49,650
ideas. Well, good hire I'd say.
She really as she looks great.

2332
02:21:49,650 --> 02:21:50,670
Not in this picture. But

2333
02:21:52,800 --> 02:21:55,200
she's not she may be pretty, she
may be intelligent. She's not

2334
02:21:55,200 --> 02:21:58,650
that photogenic. Although the
fact even she was on the cover

2335
02:21:58,650 --> 02:22:03,090
of Cosmo, apparently. And I
don't think you know, okay,

2336
02:22:03,150 --> 02:22:03,930
whatever. Yeah,

2337
02:22:03,960 --> 02:22:05,130
I can see what she's caused.
I've

2338
02:22:05,130 --> 02:22:07,200
been blown away by her photos

2339
02:22:07,560 --> 02:22:10,050
that I just saw on TV. I'm only
talking as a television

2340
02:22:10,050 --> 02:22:13,350
producer. I'm not talking as a
man. I'm talking about someone

2341
02:22:13,350 --> 02:22:17,730
who has hired people before. And
this is the direction that

2342
02:22:17,730 --> 02:22:21,750
technology reporting is going in
pop culture and innovation. That

2343
02:22:21,750 --> 02:22:22,380
is yeah,

2344
02:22:22,410 --> 02:22:26,700
that's it. Yeah, there's a new
Instagram service, Culture and

2345
02:22:26,700 --> 02:22:28,710
Innovation. Yeah. And her

2346
02:22:28,710 --> 02:22:31,140
back forget tech. So her. Her

2347
02:22:31,170 --> 02:22:35,880
credits or credibility comes
from covering Pop Culture and

2348
02:22:35,880 --> 02:22:39,720
Innovation for several years. By
interviewing SpaceX and Tesla

2349
02:22:39,720 --> 02:22:44,490
CEO Elon Musk. Famed futurist
and Google's Director of

2350
02:22:44,490 --> 02:22:48,690
Engineering Ray Kurzweil, and
NASA William Gerstenmaier.

2351
02:22:49,230 --> 02:22:52,020
That did it she's good. Well,
hold

2352
02:22:52,020 --> 02:22:56,130
on. She has also traveled to Abu
Dhabi to report on the pre

2353
02:22:56,130 --> 02:23:00,870
planned sustainable city Mazar,
she's toast. She's tasted wine

2354
02:23:00,870 --> 02:23:05,250
made by robots in California's
Napa Valley, and covered the

2355
02:23:05,250 --> 02:23:10,770
privatization of space at NASA's
Kennedy Space Center and gone

2356
02:23:10,770 --> 02:23:13,620
behind the bars of San Quentin
prison to see how the

2357
02:23:13,620 --> 02:23:17,340
institution taught inmates to
make many satellites.

2358
02:23:18,570 --> 02:23:20,880
Yeah, that sounds good. Yeah,

2359
02:23:20,940 --> 02:23:24,630
perfect. Right hire a great
hire. You know, Lisa should have

2360
02:23:24,630 --> 02:23:25,350
hired her

2361
02:23:29,850 --> 02:23:32,010
so what is the next thing you
were gonna say?

2362
02:23:32,040 --> 02:23:35,310
I was going to say thank you all
very much for the support of the

2363
02:23:35,310 --> 02:23:41,430
no agenda show devorah.org/a Hey

2364
02:23:49,620 --> 02:23:52,770
where are we just left it off?
Ladies. Happy sixth birthday

2365
02:23:52,770 --> 02:23:55,440
from your daddy Shane is very
proud of you loves you very much

2366
02:23:55,440 --> 02:23:59,220
Nicole Martini Happy birthday to
the love her life John Augustino

2367
02:23:59,220 --> 02:24:06,810
who turned 30 on November 19. We
have Dame Joan daughter Frey who

2368
02:24:06,870 --> 02:24:10,290
says oh man, I screwed up happy
birthday to Sir Maxim turn 14

2369
02:24:10,290 --> 02:24:13,620
last Friday. Happy birthday to
your husband, Alex who turns 50

2370
02:24:13,620 --> 02:24:18,030
tomorrow and and belated Happy
anniversary to her husband Alex.

2371
02:24:18,480 --> 02:24:21,390
It was the same date that we
celebrated our seventh

2372
02:24:21,390 --> 02:24:25,800
anniversary October 26. So happy
birthday to all of you. From all

2373
02:24:25,800 --> 02:24:32,070
of us here the best podcast in
the universe. And then we have

2374
02:24:32,070 --> 02:24:38,340
our anointing of Shane Peden and
I think he had a name which is

2375
02:24:38,340 --> 02:24:42,690
not on this either. Gotta pull
it out of the notes. I know he

2376
02:24:42,690 --> 02:24:48,690
had a name. Here it is. No. I
thought he had a special name he

2377
02:24:48,690 --> 02:24:51,720
wanted I'm looking at that note.
Now. Maybe it was I thought I

2378
02:24:51,720 --> 02:24:53,160
saw that an email could be
wrong.

2379
02:24:54,840 --> 02:24:56,550
So the email I don't have that

2380
02:24:56,700 --> 02:25:01,710
spreadsheet today is kind of in
my binder, but I Okay, I just

2381
02:25:01,710 --> 02:25:04,290
thought he had a special name he
wanted maybe I'm confused that

2382
02:25:04,290 --> 02:25:07,350
somebody else does not matter
because we still pull out our

2383
02:25:07,350 --> 02:25:09,960
blades as mine.

2384
02:25:11,940 --> 02:25:17,640
Hold on, by the way before I
pull mine out, as it were. Yes,

2385
02:25:17,910 --> 02:25:21,750
this woman, RACHEL CRANE is has
no Wikipedia entry but she's

2386
02:25:21,750 --> 02:25:26,100
listed prominently and IMDb know
who's dating who?

2387
02:25:26,430 --> 02:25:27,330
Who she dating.

2388
02:25:27,780 --> 02:25:32,010
She was dating this guy Elias
could follow this can follow

2389
02:25:32,010 --> 02:25:36,180
this. Who looks sketchy. And
then some Tom Cruise looking

2390
02:25:36,180 --> 02:25:39,480
character that's named Robert
shwartzman. But she stopped

2391
02:25:39,480 --> 02:25:43,200
dating him in 2008. I think
she's dating this other guy. So

2392
02:25:43,200 --> 02:25:44,460
that's good to know. Good

2393
02:25:44,460 --> 02:25:48,540
to know. Yeah. Thank you. That's
why we are the best podcast in

2394
02:25:48,540 --> 02:25:53,430
the universe. It's about time
you all right, shaping come

2395
02:25:53,430 --> 02:26:01,350
forward, my friend and please
step on up. As we hereby proudly

2396
02:26:01,350 --> 02:26:06,450
Knight V to join the roundtable
of the Knights and Dames and

2397
02:26:06,450 --> 02:26:09,900
call you sir shaved season we
have for you. You may need him

2398
02:26:10,260 --> 02:26:13,230
hookers and blow red boys and
Chardonnay as cream and bear

2399
02:26:13,230 --> 02:26:16,500
feelings porn stars and pop
opium and warm orange juice.

2400
02:26:16,650 --> 02:26:20,070
Happy when mingled bourbon
served by Oktoberfest frontlines

2401
02:26:20,550 --> 02:26:23,610
wenches and beer bong hits and
burn more maybe just a button in

2402
02:26:23,610 --> 02:26:28,740
need all for you please go to no
agenda nation.com/rings And I'll

2403
02:26:28,740 --> 02:26:31,230
look again to see if I can find
the email I thought somebody you

2404
02:26:31,230 --> 02:26:33,840
had a special night name you
want either way

2405
02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:36,360
there's so this RACHEL CRANE is
a different RACHEL CRANE. Oh,

2406
02:26:36,360 --> 02:26:37,590
okay. She's an actress.

2407
02:26:37,619 --> 02:26:40,139
Oh, there's there's a rogue
person. Yeah.

2408
02:26:40,949 --> 02:26:42,899
It's the same name. If you're in
showbiz, I don't know what's

2409
02:26:42,899 --> 02:26:44,969
going on. You can write you and
you can fight

2410
02:26:44,970 --> 02:26:50,040
that, you know, you can fight
that your mic stand is got a WD

2411
02:26:50,040 --> 02:26:50,460
40.

2412
02:26:51,029 --> 02:26:53,489
No, I actually have the right
stuff for it. It's called the

2413
02:26:53,489 --> 02:26:56,549
reticle branch handers and
there's I found this lubricant

2414
02:26:56,549 --> 02:27:00,569
that makes it's the greatest
stuff ever. out we will talk

2415
02:27:00,569 --> 02:27:02,849
about in next show now and I'll
put some on the stand. So I

2416
02:27:02,849 --> 02:27:06,239
don't have this. This constant
squeaking I know what you mean,

2417
02:27:06,239 --> 02:27:08,369
because it would stop doing it.
So I didn't pay much attention.

2418
02:27:08,369 --> 02:27:09,029
Now today.

2419
02:27:09,060 --> 02:27:11,580
It's actually funny because a
couple times during the show, I

2420
02:27:11,610 --> 02:27:14,130
would hear the sound and I
thought it was a text message or

2421
02:27:14,130 --> 02:27:17,160
something coming. I had no idea
and then I recall. Yes. It's

2422
02:27:17,160 --> 02:27:20,820
just really bad today. It is it
is yes. Worse than has been. I'm

2423
02:27:20,820 --> 02:27:22,230
gonna write this down. What's it
called?

2424
02:27:23,250 --> 02:27:26,250
ranch hand or something like
that. I'll get the name dueling

2425
02:27:26,280 --> 02:27:31,020
ranch hand. It's a very obscure
lubricant that I saw. Yeah, I'll

2426
02:27:31,020 --> 02:27:35,730
bet Oh, no, I'm telling you for
like WD 40. And just any sort

2427
02:27:35,730 --> 02:27:40,830
of, it's a synthetic oil. So
it's a very slippery rock. Girls

2428
02:27:40,830 --> 02:27:45,270
want to try it on any ranch.
thing in Holy mackerel

2429
02:27:45,480 --> 02:27:52,260
ranch hand. It's a little pricey
be on the safe side. That must

2430
02:27:52,260 --> 02:27:52,830
not be it.

2431
02:27:53,370 --> 02:27:56,070
Now I know what you're talking
about. I don't know you're just

2432
02:27:56,070 --> 02:27:59,700
trying to be you're just trying
to be Hey, what you're trying to

2433
02:27:59,700 --> 02:28:01,020
do, hey,

2434
02:28:01,380 --> 02:28:07,890
new entry in the DSM. DSM is of
course the Bible for OKAY, ALL

2435
02:28:07,890 --> 02:28:11,280
THINGS crazy that it really is
just a sales tool for the

2436
02:28:11,280 --> 02:28:18,840
pharmaceutical industry. Okay.
orthorexia nervosa, have you

2437
02:28:18,840 --> 02:28:25,620
heard of this? Would you like to
hear about it? No. No, you

2438
02:28:25,620 --> 02:28:26,730
don't? Would you like to hear
about

2439
02:28:26,730 --> 02:28:28,950
it break it down to say it has
something to do with

2440
02:28:29,699 --> 02:28:33,269
striving to eat healthy foods is
a good thing unless you take it

2441
02:28:33,269 --> 02:28:36,479
too far. And increasingly,
experts are seeing people slide

2442
02:28:36,479 --> 02:28:39,899
into an obsession with healthy
eating that can be decidedly

2443
02:28:39,899 --> 02:28:42,839
unhealthy and even lead to
malnutrition. Here to tell us

2444
02:28:42,839 --> 02:28:45,419
more about the condition some
experts referred to as

2445
02:28:45,449 --> 02:28:49,379
orthorexia is WSJ health
reporter Sumati. Reddy. Sumati.

2446
02:28:49,379 --> 02:28:52,289
Thanks so much for being here.
Tell us about this condition is

2447
02:28:52,289 --> 02:28:55,649
it officially recognized? So
it's not it's not in the DSM,

2448
02:28:55,649 --> 02:28:58,889
which is like the Bible of
mental illness? It's coming. But

2449
02:28:58,889 --> 02:29:01,019
some experts will say that there
are certain categories that

2450
02:29:01,019 --> 02:29:04,289
could fall under. And it's
similar in some ways to

2451
02:29:04,289 --> 02:29:07,679
anorexia, but different in
others, correct? Yeah. So like

2452
02:29:07,679 --> 02:29:11,519
the driving, sort of motivation
behind it is very different than

2453
02:29:11,519 --> 02:29:14,489
anorexia because it's about
quality of food, not quantity.

2454
02:29:14,519 --> 02:29:17,399
And it has nothing to do with
body issues. zactly and trying

2455
02:29:17,399 --> 02:29:20,309
to be thin. Exactly. No, there's
just people who really just are

2456
02:29:20,339 --> 02:29:22,169
concerned about what they're
putting into their body. It has

2457
02:29:22,169 --> 02:29:25,319
to be organic, it has to be
vegan and has to be certain type

2458
02:29:25,319 --> 02:29:27,359
of food from a certain grocery
store, that kind of thing, but

2459
02:29:27,359 --> 02:29:32,039
the same issues of control and
denial can be at play, correct?

2460
02:29:32,039 --> 02:29:34,919
Yes. So you do have a lot of
similarities with obsessive

2461
02:29:34,919 --> 02:29:37,409
compulsive disorder as well as
like anorexia and sometimes it

2462
02:29:37,409 --> 02:29:39,809
can lead to anorexia because
these people end up you know,

2463
02:29:39,809 --> 02:29:42,659
not eating a lot of food. Sounds
like the kind of thing that can

2464
02:29:42,659 --> 02:29:46,979
start very innocently with a
positive idea of changing your

2465
02:29:46,979 --> 02:29:50,759
lifestyle and eating healthy
foods and then vegan, it's a

2466
02:29:50,759 --> 02:29:53,159
slippery slope, correct. So it's
actually so you know, you get

2467
02:29:53,159 --> 02:29:55,229
people who are like gluten free
and they're cutting out in their

2468
02:29:55,229 --> 02:29:58,319
dairy free and they're sugar
free card free and so many major

2469
02:29:58,319 --> 02:30:00,509
food groups. There's not much
that left that you You can eat

2470
02:30:00,509 --> 02:30:01,769
and that's how you end up, you
know,

2471
02:30:02,040 --> 02:30:04,230
dying. Okay, dust.

2472
02:30:06,270 --> 02:30:08,640
It was funny. I had to we had
Ron and our friends Ron and

2473
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:11,940
Peggy over. Was that maybe

2474
02:30:11,970 --> 02:30:14,100
a Friday? you've discussed them
before on the show, Ron and

2475
02:30:14,370 --> 02:30:20,340
I may be wrong and Peggy are
born and bred Texans had been in

2476
02:30:20,340 --> 02:30:24,720
Austin since early early 70s.
Very famous for the restaurant

2477
02:30:24,720 --> 02:30:26,400
Jeffries, which they sold

2478
02:30:27,540 --> 02:30:30,720
them. You have we have talked
about this because of Jeffrey's

2479
02:30:30,900 --> 02:30:34,920
right. And they're, they're your
age, you know, so I get along

2480
02:30:34,920 --> 02:30:44,370
famously with him. Okay. And we
were talking about what came up

2481
02:30:44,370 --> 02:30:47,730
was DDT, and I'm not quite sure

2482
02:30:48,840 --> 02:30:51,120
what I already know where this
is going.

2483
02:30:51,750 --> 02:30:57,090
Well, now these are Austinites.
So they are, you know, they're,

2484
02:30:57,750 --> 02:31:01,380
they can they were only like,
Hey, what's your view on on

2485
02:31:01,380 --> 02:31:04,950
ISIS, or their sons works for
UNESCO is going to do to jika

2486
02:31:04,950 --> 02:31:07,920
stone or something. They're
really worried I said, and, of

2487
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:11,160
course, I laid into it, that,
you know, going to Tajikistan is

2488
02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:11,430
just as

2489
02:31:11,730 --> 02:31:14,760
pleasant as hell for these
people to come over for dinner.

2490
02:31:14,760 --> 02:31:17,250
They get they get, they must be
having the shakes when they

2491
02:31:17,250 --> 02:31:18,090
leave your place.

2492
02:31:18,840 --> 02:31:22,080
Mickey actually, she said it's
she's she's Do you think that

2493
02:31:22,080 --> 02:31:24,990
they're really a friend or they
just want to come over to laugh

2494
02:31:24,990 --> 02:31:25,500
at us?

2495
02:31:25,890 --> 02:31:29,880
No, they I guarantee that's,
well, I'm sure that that was

2496
02:31:29,880 --> 02:31:32,220
some of your other friends. Not
these not pegging where they

2497
02:31:32,220 --> 02:31:35,430
shake their heads ago. Can you
believe what that guy thinks?

2498
02:31:36,720 --> 02:31:38,160
Yeah, I'm sure there's a little
that

2499
02:31:38,189 --> 02:31:40,859
they were actually worried
about. That's just it's more

2500
02:31:40,859 --> 02:31:43,349
dangerous to drive to Houston
than it is for your kid to go to

2501
02:31:43,349 --> 02:31:44,159
Tajikistan.

2502
02:31:44,490 --> 02:31:47,880
That's true. Yeah, but come up
with a stat that proves that.

2503
02:31:48,269 --> 02:31:51,479
So we were talking about a noun
pissed off, I can't remember

2504
02:31:51,539 --> 02:31:58,889
what it must have been something
that we did. Anyway. I said,

2505
02:31:58,889 --> 02:32:02,609
this is just like DDT, which,
you know, got taken taken off

2506
02:32:02,609 --> 02:32:05,609
the market with all these lies,
it was creating cancer and

2507
02:32:05,609 --> 02:32:10,739
killing eagles and, and I said,
the guy who invented it, of

2508
02:32:10,739 --> 02:32:14,309
course, millions of people died
since because DDT is no longer

2509
02:32:14,309 --> 02:32:17,789
allowed to be sold. And now
people have malaria. And he

2510
02:32:17,789 --> 02:32:21,119
said, Well, it's funny you say
that? Because when I was a kid,

2511
02:32:21,149 --> 02:32:25,469
he did it when I was a kid. We
weren't. We were not rich. We

2512
02:32:25,469 --> 02:32:29,189
lived in the cheapass
neighborhood. The DDT truck

2513
02:32:29,189 --> 02:32:32,399
would come around, and we would
all be so happy and we'd be

2514
02:32:32,399 --> 02:32:35,609
jumping around to get sprayed
completely by it. So we wouldn't

2515
02:32:35,609 --> 02:32:39,569
get all kinds of fleas and ticks
and crap. And I said, No, you

2516
02:32:39,569 --> 02:32:41,279
did. He said no.

2517
02:32:42,390 --> 02:32:46,170
Which is to add to it ever heard
about the DDT truck? Oh, well,

2518
02:32:46,200 --> 02:32:49,530
that would be Texas. That was
great.

2519
02:32:49,650 --> 02:32:55,530
I didn't I didn't do any DDT
truck, Texas. I didn't do any

2520
02:32:55,530 --> 02:33:00,570
research on Oh, I can find the
fog truck. Oh, they fog you with

2521
02:33:00,570 --> 02:33:05,670
it? Yeah. In San Antonio. There
it is San Antonio. Ha. And

2522
02:33:05,670 --> 02:33:10,980
people the kids were so happy.
You wouldn't have lice. I wonder

2523
02:33:10,980 --> 02:33:11,700
what I want. I

2524
02:33:11,880 --> 02:33:16,980
don't know somebody that
stockpiled. Or their father

2525
02:33:16,980 --> 02:33:19,830
stockpiled DDT. Because he
thought that thing was something

2526
02:33:19,830 --> 02:33:22,920
of a scam in Georgia somewhere.
And they had so many barrels of

2527
02:33:22,920 --> 02:33:27,810
it, that he keeps spraying his
area and according to you can,

2528
02:33:28,320 --> 02:33:31,140
according to this person telling
me the story you can from a

2529
02:33:31,140 --> 02:33:35,550
satellite photo, you can see
that it's like this green lush,

2530
02:33:35,760 --> 02:33:41,130
fantastic block of goodness in
the middle of nowhere. That's

2531
02:33:41,130 --> 02:33:46,830
all dead. And because this stuff
is you know, if you get hacked,

2532
02:33:46,830 --> 02:33:49,680
you can get a hold of it. It's
like really a great bug killer.

2533
02:33:50,790 --> 02:33:53,160
But it doesn't include DDT
anymore, I presume?

2534
02:33:53,400 --> 02:34:01,740
No, this was DDT. Oh. It was
just straight DDT. Anyway, yeah,

2535
02:34:01,740 --> 02:34:05,640
it was it's an actually
interesting story of me the

2536
02:34:05,640 --> 02:34:09,120
argument out here in California,
where a lot of this stuff begins

2537
02:34:09,120 --> 02:34:11,880
was that it was making the
Pelican eggs. I was at

2538
02:34:11,880 --> 02:34:12,480
harlequins.

2539
02:34:12,480 --> 02:34:15,120
You're right it wasn't eagles,
it was pelicans. Pelicans. Yeah,

2540
02:34:15,150 --> 02:34:15,360
we

2541
02:34:15,900 --> 02:34:18,330
were getting thin and they
blamed it on DDT. And I don't

2542
02:34:18,330 --> 02:34:21,090
have that documented that
possessively began the whole

2543
02:34:21,090 --> 02:34:25,170
thing because we need our
pelicans which is a great bird.

2544
02:34:25,170 --> 02:34:27,180
By the way, if you're driving
around the San Francisco Bay

2545
02:34:27,180 --> 02:34:29,790
area, there's a lot of pelicans
around and you see him flying,

2546
02:34:29,910 --> 02:34:32,370
if you can put two and two
together and see how the

2547
02:34:32,370 --> 02:34:36,270
reptiles became birds. Then
you're you're oblivious to the

2548
02:34:36,270 --> 02:34:42,840
obvious Okay, well I got some I
got some Oh, there it is again.

2549
02:34:43,530 --> 02:34:48,810
I kept Yeah, it's my my style of
what I'm doing. I got it. I got

2550
02:34:48,810 --> 02:34:53,160
a guest the movie. Oh, I have a
couple complaints by the way up

2551
02:34:53,160 --> 02:34:55,350
for that. I'm gonna come out on
the show. I've been about

2552
02:34:55,380 --> 02:34:59,490
me about me in particular, but
things to do. I want to start

2553
02:34:59,490 --> 02:35:01,620
with one of the good plates I
thought we're doing guest the

2554
02:35:01,620 --> 02:35:02,400
movie for guest

2555
02:35:02,400 --> 02:35:05,580
the movie after this. Okay, this
one I want you to get this will

2556
02:35:05,580 --> 02:35:09,210
be another Adam gets something.
This is what's wrong with this

2557
02:35:09,210 --> 02:35:11,910
clip from American Dad. Okay,

2558
02:35:11,970 --> 02:35:15,120
so is this an ask Adam is this
kind of well you know it's just

2559
02:35:15,120 --> 02:35:16,080
not not don't worry about it.

2560
02:35:16,530 --> 02:35:19,140
And lastly the schools are
running contain mascots been

2561
02:35:19,140 --> 02:35:22,140
missing since last week if
anyone sees it, I learned the

2562
02:35:22,140 --> 02:35:23,610
new head of the zoology
department.

2563
02:35:25,470 --> 02:35:28,440
There it is. It would be zoology
instead of Zoo.

2564
02:35:29,070 --> 02:35:33,060
I like to know how a Seth
MacFarlane has a huge staff of

2565
02:35:33,060 --> 02:35:35,640
people. I don't want to beat
this to death.

2566
02:35:35,790 --> 02:35:38,070
I've been to a table reading
Have you know this? Right?

2567
02:35:39,029 --> 02:35:41,969
I think you mentioned it once
before. There's a huge number of

2568
02:35:41,969 --> 02:35:44,249
people and that the table
reading is a good example. And

2569
02:35:44,249 --> 02:35:49,979
he put the table Oh 2020 And
they all read this script and

2570
02:35:49,979 --> 02:35:53,939
then they somebody says zoo
ology, and nobody says anything.

2571
02:35:54,869 --> 02:35:57,989
Okay, well, then you're dealing
with idiots. Seth has Tourette's

2572
02:35:57,989 --> 02:36:00,899
by the way. Oh, that makes
nothing but sense.

2573
02:36:00,930 --> 02:36:05,310
He's got the same tics that I
do. Which is why I'm convinced

2574
02:36:05,310 --> 02:36:07,080
he doesn't like to do
interviews.

2575
02:36:08,790 --> 02:36:12,060
Oh, that would explain it. He's
very rarely on an interview. I

2576
02:36:12,060 --> 02:36:14,160
don't think I've seen him once.
Ever.

2577
02:36:15,300 --> 02:36:17,760
All right, time for guest guest
the movie. Yeah. Guest the

2578
02:36:17,760 --> 02:36:23,250
movie. It's time for another
episode of guests that movie.

2579
02:36:23,940 --> 02:36:28,080
All right. Here we go. Everybody
gets that movie. The game show

2580
02:36:28,080 --> 02:36:42,900
where I suck I like a lot of
call it for sad enough? I guess

2581
02:36:42,900 --> 02:36:43,320
so.

2582
02:36:49,980 --> 02:36:52,950
I got set to the scene. So you
can really get get it because

2583
02:36:52,950 --> 02:36:55,170
you just don't seem to seem that
you know what this is?

2584
02:36:56,100 --> 02:36:59,940
You don't even let me respond.
But okay, okay. You need to set

2585
02:36:59,940 --> 02:37:01,050
the scene. Go ahead and listen.

2586
02:37:01,860 --> 02:37:04,620
She says I like foreplay, grabs
her breasts and then she says

2587
02:37:04,620 --> 02:37:07,770
that's enough. And boom. I just
wanted to make sure you had that

2588
02:37:07,770 --> 02:37:12,480
part is I'll give you another
hint. Okay. Matthew Modine. Yes,

2589
02:37:12,780 --> 02:37:13,980
of course. It is.

2590
02:37:14,550 --> 02:37:18,570
This is Ferris Bueller's Day Off

2591
02:37:24,120 --> 02:37:25,770
you only get one guest. Oh,

2592
02:37:26,010 --> 02:37:32,820
I can't do that. Have a second
guest The Breakfast Club. What

2593
02:37:32,820 --> 02:37:37,140
is it? Private School? Oh, I've
never seen that one. How could I

2594
02:37:37,140 --> 02:37:38,010
know that?

2595
02:37:38,040 --> 02:37:41,730
I gotta get I gotta get more. I
gotta get a better feeling for

2596
02:37:41,730 --> 02:37:43,500
what kind of movies you like. So
I can

2597
02:37:43,560 --> 02:37:46,170
I can. I can tell you what movie
I watched last night with my

2598
02:37:46,170 --> 02:37:46,710
wife.

2599
02:37:46,980 --> 02:37:47,640
Okay, what?

2600
02:37:50,130 --> 02:37:54,000
What's her name? Candace
Cameron. Cameron Diaz. With the

2601
02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:54,600
sex tape.

2602
02:37:54,900 --> 02:37:58,590
Can his camp or kidney sex tapes
and intimate? Yeah,

2603
02:37:59,250 --> 02:38:01,620
that's where she makes a sex
tape or their husband and that's

2604
02:38:01,620 --> 02:38:05,070
supposed to be very funny movie.
I have to tell you. We were

2605
02:38:05,310 --> 02:38:09,510
because I had done all my prep
during the day. Okay, I had and

2606
02:38:09,510 --> 02:38:12,630
I even ate my head a pizza
during the preps around six and

2607
02:38:12,660 --> 02:38:16,020
seven o'clock to have done and
really tired and said well let's

2608
02:38:16,020 --> 02:38:21,990
watch a movie and we're scanning
through the the Netflix and oh

2609
02:38:21,990 --> 02:38:25,770
that we wanted to this is gonna
be the dumbest movie ever. And

2610
02:38:25,800 --> 02:38:31,200
it was really not it was pretty
good. Rob Lowe. Perfect Rob Lowe

2611
02:38:31,230 --> 02:38:35,250
character. Somebody could have
could have cut some bits out of

2612
02:38:35,250 --> 02:38:42,780
it. Camera and a lot of camera
naked. Very, very sexy. The

2613
02:38:42,780 --> 02:38:47,340
premise of the movie is
completely stupid. It was I

2614
02:38:47,340 --> 02:38:52,320
liked it. I would give it a
seven. I'm just quite high.

2615
02:38:52,680 --> 02:38:55,890
Okay, fine. And you should
become a reviewer on Rotten

2616
02:38:55,890 --> 02:38:56,730
Tomatoes. And I said

2617
02:38:56,730 --> 02:39:00,330
to Mickey, I said I should have
paid attention when Cameron's

2618
02:39:00,330 --> 02:39:04,080
mom was pushing her onto me
during circus of the stars.

2619
02:39:05,820 --> 02:39:11,490
Really now she's 13 So I don't
know. Which she was kind of old.

2620
02:39:11,490 --> 02:39:16,410
You 1919 2019 It's kind of
homely looking.

2621
02:39:16,890 --> 02:39:19,800
Yeah, she needs makeup shapes
but but she blossomed.

2622
02:39:21,720 --> 02:39:25,710
All right. Well, then I have
only two more things. I don't

2623
02:39:25,710 --> 02:39:34,800
know if I could save some of it.
I think I should do the bulletin

2624
02:39:34,800 --> 02:39:43,260
Yeah, the Ebola piece Oh law, as
predicted. Sir Bob Geldof and

2625
02:39:43,260 --> 02:39:50,070
amid your your buddy mid your
ultravox and big announcement.

2626
02:39:50,970 --> 02:39:56,670
big big big big announcement,
Band Aid. 30 everybody. That's

2627
02:39:56,670 --> 02:40:02,430
right. Releasing once again. Do
They Know It's Christmas time.

2628
02:40:03,120 --> 02:40:06,900
And this falls right in line
with not only Facebook, but

2629
02:40:06,900 --> 02:40:13,050
Google, both soliciting
donations for Ebola. So we're

2630
02:40:13,050 --> 02:40:17,640
ratcheting this puppy up even
though there's been no Ebola and

2631
02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:23,850
care alone for 42 days more than
42 days now. But I think adding

2632
02:40:23,850 --> 02:40:29,310
credence to at least my thesis
slash theorbo theorem, that this

2633
02:40:29,310 --> 02:40:36,480
is bullcrap to surround the oil
arm some rebels. The President

2634
02:40:36,480 --> 02:40:42,450
finally released his own where's
it released? The gonna get it

2635
02:40:42,450 --> 02:40:48,600
here. The we did the fiscal year
2015 budget amendments? I think

2636
02:40:48,600 --> 02:40:53,490
we did that. Right. Perhaps.
Okay. But I asked Congress to

2637
02:40:53,490 --> 02:40:56,250
consider inclusive and close
fiscal year 2015 budget

2638
02:40:56,250 --> 02:41:00,870
amendment for the Department of
Defense. This is to combat Of

2639
02:41:00,870 --> 02:41:04,500
course, the the cuts in the
increases, amendment will

2640
02:41:04,500 --> 02:41:09,360
provide for $5.6 billion that's
for the degrade and ultimately

2641
02:41:09,360 --> 02:41:16,410
defeat the Islamic State of Iraq
and the Levant. $5 billion, in

2642
02:41:16,410 --> 02:41:24,330
addition to the $58.6 billion
bringing 260 $3.6 billion for

2643
02:41:25,740 --> 02:41:30,450
some more money. Nothing. I'm
sorry, the ISIL stuff is not in

2644
02:41:30,450 --> 02:41:34,260
here. Okay. Oh, the Ebola stuff.

2645
02:41:35,670 --> 02:41:37,020
So well, I've

2646
02:41:37,980 --> 02:41:42,090
kind of go back to Ebola. Yeah,
hit it. So the two things are

2647
02:41:42,210 --> 02:41:48,030
one. I find it very disturbing.
Is Google and Facebook. raising

2648
02:41:48,030 --> 02:41:54,120
money for Ebola? I don't
understand. What why. We mean,

2649
02:41:54,120 --> 02:41:57,690
why? Why are they doing it? I
said I don't understand. They

2650
02:41:57,690 --> 02:42:02,580
say because it's I think it's
just ramping up hysteria. We do

2651
02:42:02,580 --> 02:42:05,640
have a pandemic elections are
over. Yeah. They just started

2652
02:42:05,640 --> 02:42:08,790
this. On think they

2653
02:42:08,790 --> 02:42:11,970
missed a point. I don't know. I
don't know. They didn't know

2654
02:42:11,970 --> 02:42:13,770
this was all about the
elections. We have

2655
02:42:13,770 --> 02:42:17,760
Molly involved in this as well.
You know, Molly now has and we

2656
02:42:17,760 --> 02:42:21,720
know our economic hitman has
said yes, yes, yes, yes. The

2657
02:42:21,720 --> 02:42:25,890
Ebola. In my seven year old
seven year old a mom died from

2658
02:42:25,890 --> 02:42:30,480
Ebola and the 24 year old nurse
who was treating him. That's the

2659
02:42:30,480 --> 02:42:34,290
way I want to go. So a lot of so
this is coming back. We have sir

2660
02:42:34,290 --> 02:42:38,640
Bob and Mitch, you are a little
bit of their announcement to Bob

2661
02:42:38,640 --> 02:42:43,260
Geldof he now he's been called
by the UN. Now this is what he

2662
02:42:43,260 --> 02:42:46,260
does. They pay him to do this.
They pay him and then you have

2663
02:42:46,260 --> 02:42:50,100
theirs. They've got all kinds of
little companies. It's all on

2664
02:42:50,100 --> 02:42:53,190
the show notes. If you're
interested in looking at it. We

2665
02:42:53,190 --> 02:42:59,910
have the what is it called? The
word charm limited, which is the

2666
02:43:01,980 --> 02:43:06,840
the company that handles all the
rights and licensing for Band

2667
02:43:06,840 --> 02:43:11,640
Aid hashtag band aid 30. And you
look at Harvey Goldsmith, he's

2668
02:43:11,640 --> 02:43:13,620
the big concert promoter put on
like a

2669
02:43:14,010 --> 02:43:18,660
band aid 30 for Ebola, it's for
Ebola, and you're not gonna fly?

2670
02:43:19,080 --> 02:43:21,180
Well, I'm telling you, the Ebola
thing was all about the

2671
02:43:21,180 --> 02:43:22,710
elections, the elections are
over.

2672
02:43:23,100 --> 02:43:26,070
It's not all about the
elections. John, it's about

2673
02:43:26,880 --> 02:43:29,880
Africa, and West Africa in
particular, you know, this has

2674
02:43:29,880 --> 02:43:33,480
been my thesis, which is why
it's ongoing. What's interesting

2675
02:43:33,480 --> 02:43:38,670
about this is that if you look
at the charter of the we're

2676
02:43:38,670 --> 02:43:42,300
trying to limited and the band
aid 30, which has been renamed,

2677
02:43:42,540 --> 02:43:47,130
their charter has always been to
feed the world and make sure

2678
02:43:47,160 --> 02:43:50,760
that they then continued on some
proceeds still, which is very

2679
02:43:50,760 --> 02:43:55,080
low at this point, have been
going to, you know, help feed

2680
02:43:55,080 --> 02:43:58,350
the world. But now all of a
sudden, which is not the charter

2681
02:43:58,380 --> 02:44:03,450
of the charity, they're going to
feed Ebola or or help a bola

2682
02:44:03,450 --> 02:44:06,870
because the UN has asked Bob
Geldof to do this, telling me

2683
02:44:06,900 --> 02:44:10,710
again that remember the world
food programs involved. You

2684
02:44:10,710 --> 02:44:13,620
remember John the big scam we
talked about? Yeah, back to

2685
02:44:13,620 --> 02:44:14,730
Yeah, we talked about it quite

2686
02:44:14,730 --> 02:44:21,450
a lot of pressure on Mitch
myself to do it for, I suppose

2687
02:44:21,630 --> 02:44:25,410
cultural reasons or whatever
documentaries and things. And

2688
02:44:25,410 --> 02:44:29,400
neither of us are into
nostalgia. But about three weeks

2689
02:44:29,400 --> 02:44:34,860
ago, I got a call from the UN
saying that they required at

2690
02:44:34,860 --> 02:44:41,400
least a 20% increase across the
board and systems and materials.

2691
02:44:41,490 --> 02:44:44,640
So this is how it works. The UN
is calling everybody they're

2692
02:44:44,640 --> 02:44:48,180
calling Geldof the calling
soccer Zuckerberg they're

2693
02:44:48,180 --> 02:44:52,890
calling Sergey or Eric or Larry
or whatever. We need 20%

2694
02:44:52,890 --> 02:44:53,640
increase

2695
02:44:54,330 --> 02:44:59,040
in personnel. They can't put a
number on it. But they're very

2696
02:44:59,040 --> 02:45:03,780
concerned that this Situation in
West Africa will either spiraled

2697
02:45:03,870 --> 02:45:08,250
beyond those borders sometime
around the beginning or mid

2698
02:45:08,250 --> 02:45:11,760
December or will be contained.
And then

2699
02:45:11,760 --> 02:45:14,760
it sounds like we only have a
couple of weeks before spirals

2700
02:45:14,760 --> 02:45:15,660
out of control. I

2701
02:45:15,750 --> 02:45:19,470
think what triggered it both for
Mitch and myself was the

2702
02:45:19,470 --> 02:45:26,790
phenomenal bravery of the
national health workers, the

2703
02:45:26,790 --> 02:45:28,320
nurses and doctors at

2704
02:45:28,440 --> 02:45:29,700
disguise of whoring.

2705
02:45:30,600 --> 02:45:32,280
Okay, so you don't want to hear
it anymore. Do you want to hear

2706
02:45:32,280 --> 02:45:32,820
the song?

2707
02:45:33,660 --> 02:45:35,190
I had the song yeah

2708
02:45:46,170 --> 02:45:47,910
the songs, the songs aren't out
yet,

2709
02:45:48,150 --> 02:45:51,540
guys. I'd be very interested
when it comes out.

2710
02:45:51,570 --> 02:45:58,050
What's gonna be Phoebe bola? Do
They Know It's Christmas time?

2711
02:45:58,170 --> 02:46:01,440
fidi that's the song. You know
the song?

2712
02:46:01,830 --> 02:46:04,770
Yeah, you think they would? No,
no, no, you're just now you're

2713
02:46:04,770 --> 02:46:05,880
off to edge. That's

2714
02:46:05,880 --> 02:46:08,070
the song. It's it's the remake.

2715
02:46:08,130 --> 02:46:11,100
You're gonna remake it and use
the word Ebola and yes, well,

2716
02:46:11,100 --> 02:46:11,220
you

2717
02:46:11,220 --> 02:46:14,310
don't want to listen to the
Geldof. So you found out that

2718
02:46:14,310 --> 02:46:14,880
don't because

2719
02:46:14,880 --> 02:46:20,520
it's like stick pins in my eyes.
Listen to that guy Yak. I just

2720
02:46:20,520 --> 02:46:22,590
wanted to get one thing out of
the way since we seem to be

2721
02:46:22,680 --> 02:46:27,060
ignoring it to an extreme on the
show, which is that Mexico is on

2722
02:46:27,060 --> 02:46:29,670
the borderline of having a
revolution down there. I have

2723
02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:32,700
not yet covered by us. It's not
being covered by the mainstream

2724
02:46:32,700 --> 02:46:35,610
media in the United States. It's
being covered internationally.

2725
02:46:36,030 --> 02:46:39,330
But they're burning down the
place. That area where the 43

2726
02:46:39,330 --> 02:46:43,710
students were murdered by the US
is being burned to the ground.

2727
02:46:43,710 --> 02:46:45,960
They've they're now they're in
Mexico City burning down the

2728
02:46:45,960 --> 02:46:46,770
palaces. Tell

2729
02:46:46,770 --> 02:46:49,650
me please tell me. Well, let's

2730
02:46:49,650 --> 02:46:52,620
play a couple of reports. So we
can at least get up and then we

2731
02:46:52,620 --> 02:46:56,730
can good. And yes, because I was
France 20 fours report on this.

2732
02:46:58,650 --> 02:47:02,430
to Mexico now where protests
angry over the disappearance of

2733
02:47:02,430 --> 02:47:06,180
43 college students have set
fire to a state Congress

2734
02:47:06,180 --> 02:47:10,200
building in Guerrero states.
It's just the latest in a series

2735
02:47:10,200 --> 02:47:13,350
of violent protests that have
erupted since Friday, when

2736
02:47:13,350 --> 02:47:16,380
authorities said that a drug
gang were responsible for the

2737
02:47:16,380 --> 02:47:20,610
murders. It's an official line
the protesters refused to accept

2738
02:47:20,790 --> 02:47:22,290
Oliver Fairey has this report.

2739
02:47:24,270 --> 02:47:28,080
Relatives of the 43 missing
students are angry and still in

2740
02:47:28,080 --> 02:47:31,800
the dark. They met Tuesday night
with independent Argentine

2741
02:47:31,800 --> 02:47:35,400
investigators only to learn that
the bodies found in a mass grave

2742
02:47:35,400 --> 02:47:39,390
close to require may not be
those of the missing families

2743
02:47:39,480 --> 02:47:43,260
are remaining cautious nor will
I lose the evidential case and

2744
02:47:43,260 --> 02:47:46,080
when in light of the evidence
found is back when travelers

2745
02:47:46,080 --> 02:47:49,290
wall how it was found on the
London scene where it was found

2746
02:47:49,290 --> 02:47:53,280
that on tourists they still no
confirmation via Nose, nose

2747
02:47:53,280 --> 02:47:56,940
multiple. Now obviously the
genetic forensics have led us

2748
02:47:56,940 --> 02:48:01,050
down a different route Yangdi
Granata rombo. The federal

2749
02:48:01,050 --> 02:48:04,260
government had said last week
that gang members confessed to

2750
02:48:04,260 --> 02:48:07,980
the killing. But speaking to
France farm cat Mexico's deputy

2751
02:48:07,980 --> 02:48:10,650
foreign minister said the
government was not rushing to

2752
02:48:10,650 --> 02:48:11,580
conclusions and

2753
02:48:12,510 --> 02:48:17,160
they are missing and they will
remain so until we know exactly

2754
02:48:17,490 --> 02:48:23,640
the identity of the remnants
that were just sent to one

2755
02:48:24,210 --> 02:48:26,790
specialized laboratory in
Austria.

2756
02:48:27,390 --> 02:48:31,620
Protesters on Tuesday Hales
Guerrero states Japji security

2757
02:48:31,620 --> 02:48:35,340
chief for several hours before
handing him over to a local

2758
02:48:35,340 --> 02:48:39,300
human rights group. The ruling
Institutional Revolutionary

2759
02:48:39,300 --> 02:48:43,020
Party is regional headquarters
were also torched. The

2760
02:48:43,020 --> 02:48:46,680
demonstrators say they want
justice for the 43 students who

2761
02:48:46,680 --> 02:48:51,240
went missing in September. Amid
the unrest President Ernesto

2762
02:48:51,240 --> 02:48:54,840
pinion Yeto has been criticized
for traveling to China for a

2763
02:48:54,840 --> 02:48:58,980
summit. The tragic murky case
has undermined his assurances

2764
02:48:58,980 --> 02:49:02,640
that his security strategy was
bearing fruit and reducing

2765
02:49:02,640 --> 02:49:06,990
Mexico's infamous gang warfare.
Okay,

2766
02:49:07,260 --> 02:49:10,440
we have something to do with
this with our situation with the

2767
02:49:10,440 --> 02:49:13,650
Sinaloa Cartel, but they never
discussed any of that play the

2768
02:49:13,860 --> 02:49:16,680
democracy now is a slight
another take on this. These are

2769
02:49:16,680 --> 02:49:18,390
all slightly different
perspectives.

2770
02:49:18,480 --> 02:49:23,310
Okay. All right. protests are
continuing across Mexico after

2771
02:49:23,310 --> 02:49:26,880
the apparent confession of
confession of gang members for

2772
02:49:26,880 --> 02:49:30,570
the massacre of 43 college
students in the southern state

2773
02:49:30,570 --> 02:49:34,620
of Colorado six weeks ago. On
Friday, the Mexican Attorney

2774
02:49:34,620 --> 02:49:37,530
General said suspects in the
case admitted to killing the

2775
02:49:37,530 --> 02:49:42,390
students and incinerating their
bodies leaving investigators to

2776
02:49:42,390 --> 02:49:45,840
the remains. The students
disappeared following a police

2777
02:49:45,840 --> 02:49:50,490
ambush fueling public anger over
government corruption and

2778
02:49:50,490 --> 02:49:54,750
Mexico's endemic violence. On
Saturday, a breakaway group of

2779
02:49:54,750 --> 02:49:57,660
protesters set fire to the door
of the presidential palace in

2780
02:49:57,660 --> 02:50:01,050
Mexico City after a march that
Truthout Dozens of people.

2781
02:50:01,380 --> 02:50:05,160
Mexican President Enrique Pena
Nieto has drawn criticism for

2782
02:50:05,160 --> 02:50:08,580
leaving Mexico to attend the
APEC summit in China amidst the

2783
02:50:08,580 --> 02:50:12,150
unrest. A new report from a
leading Mexican journalist says

2784
02:50:12,150 --> 02:50:15,630
pinion Yeto lives in a private
mansion owned by a contractor

2785
02:50:15,630 --> 02:50:18,120
who received a lucrative
government contract to build

2786
02:50:18,150 --> 02:50:23,850
high speed rail. We'll have more
from after headlines. Okay. Ah,

2787
02:50:24,780 --> 02:50:28,260
this is getting strange. And
then we have the last clip. I

2788
02:50:28,260 --> 02:50:31,680
have two more, but I think what
I'll do, which is, this is the

2789
02:50:31,680 --> 02:50:35,310
guy who's the head of the
Mexican law journal, speaking

2790
02:50:35,520 --> 02:50:39,720
and discussing the possibility
of a coup d'etat. Yeah. Okay,

2791
02:50:39,810 --> 02:50:42,930
which can happen at any moment,
apparently. And this is the

2792
02:50:43,050 --> 02:50:45,180
Mexico of fancy ideas

2793
02:50:45,270 --> 02:50:48,510
straight. That National Palace
was birthed by Governor

2794
02:50:48,510 --> 02:50:51,600
provocateurs and a coordinated
action all of a sudden, a few

2795
02:50:51,600 --> 02:50:54,750
hours later, Pinyon because we
say no to violence, we are in

2796
02:50:54,750 --> 02:50:59,040
favor of peace. Violence is done
by the Mexican state. We don't

2797
02:50:59,040 --> 02:51:01,290
have to wait for it at the
local. This isn't a little

2798
02:51:01,320 --> 02:51:03,990
better local massacre, it
already happened. And so that's

2799
02:51:03,990 --> 02:51:06,840
where the average is coming. Of
course, hopefully, there's not

2800
02:51:06,840 --> 02:51:09,630
another one. But on Wednesday,
and there's something out I

2801
02:51:09,630 --> 02:51:11,550
know, I'm taking up too much
time. We can come back to this

2802
02:51:11,550 --> 02:51:14,430
Wednesday on Monday. Sorry, this
this Monday, the Mexican

2803
02:51:14,430 --> 02:51:16,500
military and you mentioned
booking the vessel. What

2804
02:51:16,500 --> 02:51:19,620
happened in Burkina Faso coup
d'etat on Monday, the Mexican

2805
02:51:19,620 --> 02:51:23,850
military front page on Tuesday,
but on Monday, the general

2806
02:51:24,150 --> 02:51:29,850
synthwave was said we are ready
to intervene not only to combat

2807
02:51:29,880 --> 02:51:32,940
organized crime, but we are
ready to intervene to defend

2808
02:51:33,000 --> 02:51:36,720
Enrique Pena yet those political
reforms, structural reforms,

2809
02:51:36,720 --> 02:51:39,840
economic reforms, this is a
political agenda that the

2810
02:51:39,840 --> 02:51:42,630
military is setting out there.
And this is very dangerous.

2811
02:51:42,630 --> 02:51:45,150
That's why it's very important
that we're here in Paris. And

2812
02:51:45,150 --> 02:51:47,040
then there's a lot of
international attention here

2813
02:51:47,040 --> 02:51:49,680
because otherwise, the Mexican
military, which historically has

2814
02:51:49,680 --> 02:51:52,200
been very well disciplined said
Midas is already getting

2815
02:51:52,200 --> 02:51:54,990
Germany's mind started to get
fancy ideas, and that would be

2816
02:51:54,990 --> 02:51:59,820
dangerous. There's a lot of,
huh, okay, can you break it

2817
02:51:59,820 --> 02:52:00,180
down?

2818
02:52:00,390 --> 02:52:03,810
Trying to now but the thing is
that we're not I believe the

2819
02:52:03,810 --> 02:52:07,410
United States is is yet to get
involved in this. And that's why

2820
02:52:07,410 --> 02:52:10,410
the news outlets we don't
discuss it when you look at the

2821
02:52:10,410 --> 02:52:15,060
foreign this time this country
is burning.

2822
02:52:15,330 --> 02:52:19,050
I would say that the reason why
our news in America is not

2823
02:52:19,050 --> 02:52:23,880
showing it is because no one is
being offered for interviews by

2824
02:52:23,880 --> 02:52:26,520
the by the strike department,
because that's typically how it

2825
02:52:26,520 --> 02:52:29,370
happens. What are we going to
do? Oh, we gotta call it Oh, in

2826
02:52:29,460 --> 02:52:32,640
talking to some guy okay. No
one's there's no Booker's going

2827
02:52:32,640 --> 02:52:39,180
out there trying to find news,
Booker's talent Booker's. Okay.

2828
02:52:40,830 --> 02:52:44,190
The military coup d'etat is that
the is that's a

2829
02:52:44,190 --> 02:52:52,110
possibility, although this guy
Enrique Pena, Neto is a would be

2830
02:52:52,110 --> 02:52:57,180
part of it. Whatever is going on
is it seems to be a little off

2831
02:52:57,180 --> 02:53:00,990
script from the normal stuff
that we look at. It's it's right

2832
02:53:00,990 --> 02:53:03,480
on our border, which you'd think
that would get a little more

2833
02:53:03,480 --> 02:53:07,140
attention. I border, Hulu, my
boy. Right on right next to it

2834
02:53:07,140 --> 02:53:10,170
right down the street from you.
Yeah, it's right down the street

2835
02:53:10,170 --> 02:53:14,250
from you. And it's like, I think
it needs to be followed a little

2836
02:53:14,250 --> 02:53:17,940
more closely, because nobody
else is discussing it. I mean,

2837
02:53:17,940 --> 02:53:20,580
we had enough trouble trying to
get anything going with the

2838
02:53:20,610 --> 02:53:25,470
Venezuelan situation we had
people criticizing us for. But

2839
02:53:25,590 --> 02:53:28,770
yeah, for not having not being
able to do anything for lack of

2840
02:53:28,770 --> 02:53:29,550
information.

2841
02:53:29,580 --> 02:53:32,910
Yeah, we had no information, no
insights we get same situation

2842
02:53:32,910 --> 02:53:37,560
here. I don't know how many we
have a couple of Mexican donors.

2843
02:53:37,800 --> 02:53:41,310
And I'd maybe even a night. That
would be nice if we heard from

2844
02:53:41,310 --> 02:53:46,170
them. But this situation looks
grim. And it may be something

2845
02:53:46,170 --> 02:53:48,930
has been boiling over for some
time, which would account for

2846
02:53:48,930 --> 02:53:54,510
all the people flocking across
the border. Because this country

2847
02:53:54,510 --> 02:53:55,380
is a mess,

2848
02:53:55,440 --> 02:53:56,880
because it's messed up. Right.

2849
02:53:57,330 --> 02:54:00,030
I mean, you can play the last
clip, if you want. Unity, this

2850
02:54:00,030 --> 02:54:04,260
is they put the Mexican military
on trial or for for a previous

2851
02:54:04,260 --> 02:54:07,500
massacre that we've never
discussed in the United States.

2852
02:54:07,530 --> 02:54:11,370
They are now trying seven or
eight military officials in

2853
02:54:11,370 --> 02:54:14,580
civilian courts. This is a major
advance in terms of justice, but

2854
02:54:15,000 --> 02:54:17,220
they're doing it because of the
international pressure. They're

2855
02:54:17,220 --> 02:54:19,590
being tried not for this
massacre, but for the previous

2856
02:54:19,590 --> 02:54:23,910
massacre on June 30. And flat
layer, which was absolutely and

2857
02:54:23,910 --> 02:54:26,400
totally covered up by all
members of government in

2858
02:54:26,400 --> 02:54:28,530
particular by the federal
attorney general for three

2859
02:54:28,530 --> 02:54:33,270
months until the Associated
Press and independent witness

2860
02:54:33,330 --> 02:54:36,660
came out and made this
international scandals before at

2861
02:54:36,660 --> 02:54:39,990
Napa before this more recent
massacre. And that's what forced

2862
02:54:40,050 --> 02:54:43,680
the Mexican government to now
try these these military today

2863
02:54:43,680 --> 02:54:47,280
with a new massacre Nuala which
was much worse. Once again, the

2864
02:54:47,280 --> 02:54:49,740
military and the federal
officials are being protected.

2865
02:54:50,250 --> 02:54:57,000
Ah. Well, I think one thing for
sure there's drugs involved.

2866
02:54:57,720 --> 02:55:00,330
There's drugs involved and
apparently there's a A lot of

2867
02:55:00,360 --> 02:55:04,830
disappearing going on in Mexico
is being discussed in the UN and

2868
02:55:04,830 --> 02:55:09,000
some other centers of influence
and mostly in Europe.

2869
02:55:09,090 --> 02:55:13,230
And so let me ask you a
question. Should Miss Mickey go

2870
02:55:13,230 --> 02:55:17,400
to Mexico City to discuss her
art Expo there?

2871
02:55:18,240 --> 02:55:19,410
I don't see why not.

2872
02:55:19,440 --> 02:55:23,220
You said the country is on fire.
It is as Mexico.

2873
02:55:23,730 --> 02:55:27,690
She's dying. She's got an
escort. She's fine. She's gonna

2874
02:55:27,690 --> 02:55:30,840
roam around. I mean, I can.
There's so many people that

2875
02:55:30,840 --> 02:55:32,970
disappear. They just keep
disappearing. I mean, there's a

2876
02:55:32,970 --> 02:55:35,580
lot of kidnappings obviously
that go on in Mexico and that's

2877
02:55:35,580 --> 02:55:38,250
been a huge problem where if we
even if this has been going on

2878
02:55:38,250 --> 02:55:39,900
for a decade, hey,

2879
02:55:40,349 --> 02:55:43,289
let's kidnap the tall blonde one
I hear he can get lots of

2880
02:55:43,289 --> 02:55:44,129
donations.

2881
02:55:44,880 --> 02:55:48,930
i My experience in Mexico last
time I was in Mexico City was

2882
02:55:48,930 --> 02:55:53,250
Don't do this. Don't do that.
Drive around in the richest of

2883
02:55:53,250 --> 02:55:56,760
the rich drive around and
bulletproof Junkers. Nobody can

2884
02:55:56,760 --> 02:56:00,390
drive around in a nice Mercedes
or anything else because it gets

2885
02:56:00,630 --> 02:56:03,780
because you'd look like a
target. And that was like a

2886
02:56:03,780 --> 02:56:07,440
decade or maybe even longer ago.
I mean, it's been deteriorating.

2887
02:56:07,440 --> 02:56:12,090
So God knows what the heck's
going on? I don't think it's I

2888
02:56:12,090 --> 02:56:15,060
don't think it's a place you
can't visit if you're cautious,

2889
02:56:15,060 --> 02:56:18,960
but it's not. And this is all
taking place south of Mexico

2890
02:56:18,960 --> 02:56:22,200
City even though Mexico City was
where the riots were. They had

2891
02:56:22,200 --> 02:56:26,430
some there and they burnt to try
to burn burned down. One of the

2892
02:56:26,550 --> 02:56:29,820
executive mansions but it was
not the place he lives because

2893
02:56:29,820 --> 02:56:32,790
he lives in a fancier place.
They had the honcho, the

2894
02:56:32,790 --> 02:56:34,200
president el presidente de

2895
02:56:34,230 --> 02:56:38,160
Okay, so two things I've learned
from this one. We certainly need

2896
02:56:38,160 --> 02:56:42,780
help from our Mexican producers.
I don't think I've received

2897
02:56:42,780 --> 02:56:48,210
anything any feedback info,
whatever. We need some boots on

2898
02:56:48,210 --> 02:56:53,400
the ground information to second
thing I've learned when you for

2899
02:56:53,400 --> 02:56:55,830
the people who are making us
jalopies to ride around and with

2900
02:56:55,830 --> 02:56:58,620
the big engines, bulletproof I
liken it to be Bulletproof

2901
02:56:59,910 --> 02:57:05,040
Bulletproof jalopy with a big
engine sticking out. All right.

2902
02:57:06,030 --> 02:57:10,140
Bulletproof Bulletproof. So
tomorrow morning or lie we fly

2903
02:57:10,170 --> 02:57:15,900
to New York City? And if not, if
not everything has been

2904
02:57:15,900 --> 02:57:26,940
disrupted by the peak of the
cycle Genesis. Which Kakou

2905
02:57:26,940 --> 02:57:33,180
predicted. And I guess we're
gonna see if we can change our

2906
02:57:33,180 --> 02:57:38,220
strategy there on Syria by
Sunday to put more boots on the

2907
02:57:38,220 --> 02:57:42,930
ground and to get them out.
Everyone's doing stuff and at

2908
02:57:42,930 --> 02:57:46,320
work. And we are here to
deconstruct it for you.

2909
02:57:47,340 --> 02:57:48,420
As best we can

2910
02:57:48,450 --> 02:57:52,140
we do our best to help us. Help
me. Please remember us that did

2911
02:57:52,140 --> 02:57:55,440
some help for the Mexican stuff
we do. And we always need your

2912
02:57:55,680 --> 02:58:00,360
financial support. dvorak.org/na
coming to you from FEMA Region

2913
02:58:00,360 --> 02:58:03,330
six. All right, it's pretty
chilly. In the morning,

2914
02:58:03,330 --> 02:58:04,500
everybody. I'm Adam curry.

2915
02:58:05,010 --> 02:58:07,410
And from Northern Silicon Valley
where it's not chilly at all. It

2916
02:58:07,410 --> 02:58:10,080
was rain this morning. But now
it's clearing up right now the

2917
02:58:10,080 --> 02:58:15,180
California desert day. I'm John.
I'm somebody John C. Dvorak. I

2918
02:58:15,180 --> 02:58:18,630
think John Holdren botched the
beginning too. So I might as

2919
02:58:18,630 --> 02:58:21,930
well finish with a balanced
approach. We'll talk to you

2920
02:58:21,930 --> 02:58:32,730
again on Sunday right here on no
agenda. Baby bingo boom bingo

2921
02:58:32,730 --> 02:58:39,060
Boom shakalaka it was worth it.
It's it was worth it. I'm Joe

2922
02:58:39,060 --> 02:58:43,020
Biden. And thank you for taking
the time to listen. Adios MoPhO

2923
02:58:47,310 --> 02:58:51,060
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