1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,840 Oh, your baby. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. 2 00:00:03,930 --> 00:00:07,500 It's Thursday, December 11 2014. And time for your Gitmo nation 3 00:00:07,500 --> 00:00:14,220 media assassination episode 677. This is no agenda. Anticipating 4 00:00:14,220 --> 00:00:17,730 storm again here in FEMA Region six in the capital of the drone 5 00:00:17,730 --> 00:00:21,060 Star State. Austin, Texas in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam 6 00:00:21,060 --> 00:00:21,510 curry, 7 00:00:21,660 --> 00:00:24,690 and screw that from Northern Silicon Valley where we're 8 00:00:24,690 --> 00:00:28,410 having the storm of the century. I'm John C. Dvorak. 9 00:00:32,070 --> 00:00:35,550 It doesn't happen often, but you actually really clipped your own 10 00:00:35,550 --> 00:00:41,160 mic there. I did. Yeah. I'm looking at my board gone. I 11 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:46,260 can't help this. Just a little start over No, no, no, I'll tell 12 00:00:46,260 --> 00:00:50,100 you what, why don't we? John? John, this is Adam here in the 13 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:57,420 studio. What's it looking like? John? What are you learning? My 14 00:00:57,420 --> 00:01:02,850 word. I don't know what to do. I'm holding on for dear life. 15 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:09,360 Store again. 2014. 16 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,000 What you guys have in store for we have all the servers on the 17 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:12,630 West Coast. No, 18 00:01:12,630 --> 00:01:14,640 we're supposed to get the remnants of your store. 19 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:17,100 Don't want the remnants. 20 00:01:17,460 --> 00:01:21,750 It's funny. I saw I swear to you, I saw a prediction last 21 00:01:21,750 --> 00:01:25,140 week. That said we're going to have this warm snap all over the 22 00:01:25,140 --> 00:01:28,500 country. I forgot to mention on the show, I put it in the show 23 00:01:28,500 --> 00:01:30,450 notes. Three or four shows ago 24 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,390 when this thing that when that's hitting us, and I guess it hit 25 00:01:33,390 --> 00:01:36,120 the Pacific Northwest, and that typically dribbles down to 26 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:41,310 Denver. This was like the world's World's Worst wind and 27 00:01:41,310 --> 00:01:44,280 rainstorm. It was overnight. I mean, it ripped off a bunch of 28 00:01:44,310 --> 00:01:49,830 pieces of the house. One piece of the house, I have to say 29 00:01:49,860 --> 00:01:53,820 this, it would have been some as I look out the window here, a 30 00:01:53,820 --> 00:01:57,780 piece of flashing from the roof is flapping around, capped off 31 00:01:57,780 --> 00:02:01,410 and hanging Wow by a thread going back and forth and back 32 00:02:01,410 --> 00:02:03,570 and forth. And if you know where that flashing looks like you can 33 00:02:03,570 --> 00:02:06,450 imagine if it snaps off, which it should do eventually from 34 00:02:06,660 --> 00:02:10,410 from mental fatigue. Yeah, it will snap off and then catch the 35 00:02:10,410 --> 00:02:13,080 wind and go flying and probably go right through somebody's 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,510 window and impale somebody. No, no, no, no. And her head is 37 00:02:18,510 --> 00:02:21,180 gone. That's what we'll have. Meanwhile, I was hanging here 38 00:02:21,180 --> 00:02:23,760 and I'm looking at could have like gone right through this 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,540 window here. But it's such a long piece that's hanging that 40 00:02:27,540 --> 00:02:30,150 actually has it comes to slam toward the window, it hits the 41 00:02:30,180 --> 00:02:34,530 house and blocks it from going into the window. It's that and 42 00:02:34,530 --> 00:02:37,920 then we had just a big mess, just generally speaking to bring 43 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:40,590 a lot of stuff inside and we're waiting for some trees to fall. 44 00:02:40,590 --> 00:02:43,710 There's one tree up the hill that looks like it should go but 45 00:02:43,710 --> 00:02:45,420 there's flooding. It's just a mess. 46 00:02:45,510 --> 00:02:48,840 Now you have been in this location for many years. Yes. 47 00:02:48,900 --> 00:02:51,690 Yes. Long time. And have you ever witnessed this good this 48 00:02:52,170 --> 00:02:53,310 severity of storm? 49 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,030 I don't know that for such an extended period. We'd get a 50 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:59,580 windstorm that would last I don't know this is probably the 51 00:02:59,580 --> 00:03:01,020 wind. And yeah. 52 00:03:01,050 --> 00:03:05,550 When do you attribute this to climate change made by men? You 53 00:03:07,170 --> 00:03:10,260 know, I can get attributed to the cycle that we have for 54 00:03:10,260 --> 00:03:12,660 drought and we have elected Governor Brown he's talking 55 00:03:12,660 --> 00:03:16,080 about the drought cycle we have drought for two years. We're all 56 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,140 gonna die because because of global warming, and now we got 57 00:03:19,170 --> 00:03:22,440 nothing but rain. I mean, this is going to be 48 inches in the 58 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,860 hole. This'll fill up all the reservoirs like instantly, and 59 00:03:25,860 --> 00:03:27,780 then it's going to you know, it's gonna go on for another 60 00:03:27,780 --> 00:03:31,050 day. You could bet when part the worst part was last night you 61 00:03:31,050 --> 00:03:31,200 could 62 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,870 back off another dog biscuit on your mic. I don't know what if 63 00:03:33,870 --> 00:03:37,860 something changed, but you know, you're clipping clipping man. 64 00:03:38,190 --> 00:03:42,750 Let me let me see what clipping bra. Don't be clipping man. 65 00:03:43,410 --> 00:03:45,150 I'll give I'll give you one sit and listen to while you're at 66 00:03:45,150 --> 00:03:49,080 that. Because they can really feel what it's like to sound 67 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,960 better. Well, yeah, just when you get excited. 68 00:03:52,109 --> 00:03:56,939 I'm excited. I think I'm deaf because of the noise last night. 69 00:03:57,779 --> 00:04:02,789 This is surprising. Of course, I'm in Texas. almost zero 70 00:04:02,909 --> 00:04:07,499 coverage of this storm. I know because I follow space weather 71 00:04:07,499 --> 00:04:09,869 and all kinds of different things as he was going. I am 72 00:04:09,869 --> 00:04:12,839 interested in the weather. And of course, it's on the Weather 73 00:04:12,839 --> 00:04:16,379 Channel. But nothing it's just no one's talking about this 74 00:04:16,409 --> 00:04:17,909 outside. He's done to me. 75 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,050 What did I 76 00:04:19,049 --> 00:04:21,839 do about it? He didn't know about it. Really? I didn't know 77 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,639 about your storm. No, this is your 78 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,260 storm. We don't have we have rains 79 00:04:25,290 --> 00:04:28,500 or mono. This has been big news. Well, the sun is out here. Yeah. 80 00:04:29,130 --> 00:04:32,610 Big news when it turns into a huge snow pile as it plows 81 00:04:32,610 --> 00:04:37,080 through the country right we don't fill up the resorts right 82 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:41,130 from the storm we had a week ago. The ski resorts are all 83 00:04:41,130 --> 00:04:44,520 full of snow right? Right. So they have to blow phony snow 84 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,330 anymore. And now this will just pack it so it'll be there'll be 85 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,480 snow and fill like last year they were lucky to get any snow 86 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,090 days and because of the whole thing. The schools are closed. 87 00:04:54,090 --> 00:04:54,960 Yes, yes, I 88 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,680 saw snow day everywhere and people are lining up at the gas 89 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,010 stations. This is what we do in America. Go Go get ya 90 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,740 start. They went shopping yesterday and it was everything 91 00:05:04,740 --> 00:05:07,470 was packed and I realized this because they're all getting you 92 00:05:07,470 --> 00:05:11,970 know, get some some gas down for the big storm. Yeah, yeah. 93 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,410 How long is it supposed to last? 94 00:05:13,860 --> 00:05:17,400 It's probably about a couple more days. Okay, well, that'd be 95 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,760 another one coming. I mean, we didn't look at the satellites 96 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,940 there's just gonna be a series of these, which again will soon 97 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,620 to be diverting water. Oh by and dead just as the storm hits they 98 00:05:28,620 --> 00:05:35,100 jacked up the price of water because of the drought. Scam 99 00:05:35,100 --> 00:05:38,100 Yes, money. But by the way, I want to get to the big story 100 00:05:38,100 --> 00:05:40,170 right off because I think it's really important. And it's 101 00:05:40,170 --> 00:05:43,020 something we got to talk about immediately because I think it's 102 00:05:43,020 --> 00:05:46,140 the big news. The big the biggest of the biggest of the 103 00:05:46,140 --> 00:05:47,970 biggest news stories to hit. 104 00:05:49,740 --> 00:05:53,010 All right, this of course, now I'm looking at your clip list 105 00:05:53,010 --> 00:05:57,540 and thinking I know what it's not. I'm trying. I'm trying to 106 00:05:57,540 --> 00:06:00,150 guess and anticipate what is going to be 107 00:06:00,270 --> 00:06:08,490 Yeah, yeah. Lebron James. Yeah. In a photo op, you don't have 108 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,610 you don't have a clip of that. The raw know the royal college 109 00:06:11,610 --> 00:06:16,260 should have a clip but it's just the royal couple. Yes. Was took 110 00:06:16,260 --> 00:06:19,500 in a game a basketball game for the first time in their life, 111 00:06:19,650 --> 00:06:23,850 and in Brooklyn of all places. And just to see LeBron James, 112 00:06:23,970 --> 00:06:28,560 and then they pose with a photo op, and he unknowingly put his 113 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,410 arm around her but his arm around her and now it's a 114 00:06:31,410 --> 00:06:32,340 scandal. 115 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:41,610 Yes, wow. Okay. Sure. Big Sia. I'm so baffled. This whole I 116 00:06:41,610 --> 00:06:44,760 still I cannot get over the older I get the less I can 117 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:50,580 really go along with this royalty thing. Is this to 118 00:06:50,580 --> 00:06:55,110 people? And we have to have special like dignitaries. It did 119 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:59,040 not. I don't know it's I really just can't care. 120 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,350 No, you don't care if you're not a royalist if you are a royal 121 00:07:04,350 --> 00:07:05,730 issued understand. Yeah, 122 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,830 I have, of course what is actually the big story of the 123 00:07:10,830 --> 00:07:13,980 day and I have to congratulate you as you came very close to 124 00:07:13,980 --> 00:07:19,380 predicting what this was all about. You. You had you had most 125 00:07:19,380 --> 00:07:22,140 of it right. But here's the story. At least 126 00:07:22,140 --> 00:07:25,860 16 Women have accused Bill Cosby of sexual assault, and in many 127 00:07:25,860 --> 00:07:29,220 cases the stories are very similar. The women claimed the 128 00:07:29,220 --> 00:07:32,310 comedian gave them pills that knock them unconscious. One 129 00:07:32,310 --> 00:07:35,940 woman Dr. Charlotte laws claims her longtime friend had a long 130 00:07:35,940 --> 00:07:39,540 running affair with Cosby in the early 80s and was still drugged 131 00:07:39,540 --> 00:07:42,870 by him even though they were already in a consensual sexual 132 00:07:42,870 --> 00:07:46,500 relationship. Laws. Thanks Cosby could be a psalm no philia 133 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,710 some no some no feel Yak. 134 00:07:53,730 --> 00:07:57,570 Well, that sounds a lot better than necrophilia. Yeah, women 135 00:07:57,570 --> 00:08:00,450 aren't dead and we don't know of him ever having sex with a dead 136 00:08:00,450 --> 00:08:06,450 person. And technically, I guess that technically that would be 137 00:08:06,450 --> 00:08:09,030 Yeah, that would be it. I never knew that was such a thing. But 138 00:08:09,030 --> 00:08:09,840 I can Yeah, 139 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,040 apparently apparently there is such a such a condition. Assam 140 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:14,910 no celiac. 141 00:08:18,030 --> 00:08:21,090 I believe it. Yeah. That was probably I would believe that's 142 00:08:21,090 --> 00:08:24,420 what was going on here. Because like we said, there's no reason 143 00:08:24,420 --> 00:08:28,650 for him to go out. You know, so far out of his way to get sex 144 00:08:28,650 --> 00:08:29,070 when you're 145 00:08:29,340 --> 00:08:31,710 well, you don't really have to get into it. I just thought it 146 00:08:31,710 --> 00:08:34,770 was interesting that you had I don't want to get into I thought 147 00:08:34,770 --> 00:08:37,890 you came. Let's not get into anything Cosby's been into. 148 00:08:38,190 --> 00:08:41,670 That's not a good idea. Yeah, no, I nailed it. Yes, you did. 149 00:08:41,670 --> 00:08:44,550 Pretty much. I'll give you I'll give you props for nailing it. 150 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,770 Well, you sent out a newsletter. And when I read your newsletter, 151 00:08:49,770 --> 00:08:52,320 as I always do, and notice I didn't say good to go this time. 152 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,150 I said, looking good. 153 00:08:54,180 --> 00:08:59,580 I know you're waiting to say good to go. You know, where 154 00:08:59,580 --> 00:09:02,310 there's so many mistakes in that newsletters. I did it. Oh 155 00:09:02,310 --> 00:09:05,310 really? Oh, God. Oh, I'm 156 00:09:05,310 --> 00:09:07,950 sorry. Well, I wasn't feeling very well. Yesterday, I was on 157 00:09:07,950 --> 00:09:10,230 the couch most of the day. I just 158 00:09:10,380 --> 00:09:13,290 yeah, what I do before I send the newsletter as I mail it to 159 00:09:13,290 --> 00:09:18,900 myself. And I edited I edit it while I'm putting it together. 160 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,930 And then I mail it to myself because reading it off the 161 00:09:21,930 --> 00:09:24,900 screen as an email is almost like a new thing. So I can kind 162 00:09:24,900 --> 00:09:28,770 of read it without with fresh eyes. And holy crap. 163 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,380 I'm so sorry. I and then I usually catch stuff, but I 164 00:09:31,380 --> 00:09:34,650 didn't catch anything. Yeah. And then I think it was because the 165 00:09:34,650 --> 00:09:39,360 content was very interesting to me. And this, although we really 166 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,770 never ever do any preparatory work together. And we have no 167 00:09:43,770 --> 00:09:46,470 idea really what we're showing up with for each show and we'll 168 00:09:46,470 --> 00:09:50,220 talk about this in our Christmas episode, which has been produced 169 00:09:50,220 --> 00:09:55,740 for your enjoyment coming up on on Christmas. When sometimes 170 00:09:55,740 --> 00:09:59,400 you'll send a newsletter out like this, and it's filled with 171 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,420 cheeses, a, um, this is what we're going to be doing. And you 172 00:10:03,420 --> 00:10:07,530 know, this is it's, this is the topic and to me it's obvious 173 00:10:07,590 --> 00:10:12,270 you've got this ready to go deconstruction wise and I, I'm 174 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,510 excited about what you're going to bring to us. 175 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:19,560 Well, I was a little overwhelmed. I go, I have my 176 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:24,210 little clip machine. And I'm getting my last clips yesterday 177 00:10:24,210 --> 00:10:29,820 and I look at the number says 66, zero. Yes. And a lot of them 178 00:10:29,820 --> 00:10:31,620 are long, because I have the whole 179 00:10:31,890 --> 00:10:34,980 clip of abuse, man, you can't be doing that. I didn't like the 180 00:10:34,980 --> 00:10:35,340 idea. 181 00:10:35,340 --> 00:10:39,030 So I when I paired him down, I probably lost a lot of stuff I'd 182 00:10:39,030 --> 00:10:41,490 like to have talked about I'm gonna put in later shows. 183 00:10:42,660 --> 00:10:45,300 Because there's a lot of very interesting stories. I mean, 184 00:10:45,300 --> 00:10:48,390 there were stories that I picked up listening to the 185 00:10:48,390 --> 00:10:53,430 congressional hearings on the on the torture report. But what I 186 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:56,430 what I mentioned in a newsletter for people who decide not to 187 00:10:56,430 --> 00:11:00,300 take the newsletter, which is free, because they think it's I 188 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:03,930 don't know why they don't like it. Whatever the case, it was so 189 00:11:03,930 --> 00:11:06,510 apparent to me. And I was so disappointed. I was disappointed 190 00:11:06,510 --> 00:11:09,870 in two things. One, the lack of response that we got for the 191 00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:13,710 last show in terms of donations to this show. Yeah, very poor. 192 00:11:14,670 --> 00:11:18,570 Just horrible. And I think a lot of people are drifting away 193 00:11:18,570 --> 00:11:21,240 because I think the mainstream media is lower as much better. 194 00:11:21,570 --> 00:11:22,800 But what we really got 195 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,500 to say that again, you think the mainstream media is lower 196 00:11:26,339 --> 00:11:29,399 back in because that's why we get a lot of stuff kickback. Ah, 197 00:11:29,429 --> 00:11:33,269 okay. You ever noticed this? So when did the things I noticed 198 00:11:33,299 --> 00:11:38,579 was all of the all of with no was was actually two exceptions. 199 00:11:38,579 --> 00:11:41,009 I have to go to the desk and grab my notes on the other desk. 200 00:11:41,009 --> 00:11:41,129 Let's 201 00:11:41,130 --> 00:11:45,240 go to the news desk. John. You go to the news desk. Go ahead. 202 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:45,360 I've 203 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,680 been willing to you What are you gonna do? 204 00:11:46,830 --> 00:11:49,950 I'll tell you, you go to the news desk. I'll play a jingle. 205 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,290 You ready? 123 go. 206 00:11:52,319 --> 00:11:54,119 I mean, what do you think Wolf Blitzer? 207 00:11:54,150 --> 00:11:58,140 That's my new, my new one. It just that's the only question we 208 00:11:58,140 --> 00:12:04,050 need to ask Wolf Blitzer. All right, I think Wolf Blitzer. 209 00:12:04,170 --> 00:12:05,730 What do you think Wolf Blitzer? 210 00:12:07,590 --> 00:12:11,160 Right. What I noticed was everybody except very few 211 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:16,200 people. And the two that I could I could positively identify that 212 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,130 weren't in the CIA's pocket or buddies with some of these old 213 00:12:20,190 --> 00:12:25,530 CIA hacks. It was because of the number everybody was spewing a 214 00:12:26,010 --> 00:12:31,440 pretty well defined list of talking points. Everybody, MSNBC 215 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,510 and Fox are on the same side. Yeah. 216 00:12:33,540 --> 00:12:36,810 Which which kind of solidifies our theory or my theory that 217 00:12:36,870 --> 00:12:40,440 they're run by the same people, namely Democrats. There's that 218 00:12:40,470 --> 00:12:43,530 the before you move anything that I will just something that 219 00:12:43,530 --> 00:12:48,570 will tickle you. Yesterday, the President came out with a 220 00:12:48,570 --> 00:12:52,230 proclamation just to throw everything on top of it. Did you 221 00:12:52,230 --> 00:12:57,840 know that yesterday? He proclaimed the week beginning 222 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:03,510 December 10 2014. Which doesn't make sense to me the week 223 00:13:03,510 --> 00:13:05,580 doesn't start on a Wednesday. 224 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,900 Does it? No, it's very strange, 225 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,660 right? Presidential Proclamation. You gotta read 226 00:13:12,660 --> 00:13:17,160 this. He says it's a Human Rights Day. And this starts 227 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:22,530 human rights week. On Wednesday, yeah. On the same on the same 228 00:13:22,980 --> 00:13:26,580 day that this report comes out. Come on. 229 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,760 Well, there's something fishy about Obama's position in this 230 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,450 whole thing because he was according to everybody that's on 231 00:13:33,450 --> 00:13:35,700 the committee was a roadblock. 232 00:13:35,820 --> 00:13:38,340 And I want to tell our producers out there who are listening this 233 00:13:38,370 --> 00:13:43,470 this of course is a very us get mo nation centric topic. Pay 234 00:13:43,470 --> 00:13:46,050 attention this can happen in your part of the world if it 235 00:13:46,050 --> 00:13:47,040 isn't already. 236 00:13:49,110 --> 00:13:53,160 Yeah, I would agree with that. If it isn't already well, 237 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,220 anyway, so I'm watching all these shows and everybody is is 238 00:13:56,220 --> 00:14:00,240 doing the same. They're they're talking from the same sheet it's 239 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,700 just so obvious. They all say the same things. They all do the 240 00:14:02,700 --> 00:14:06,090 same I have the worst of course is Fox. Yeah, it goes they go 241 00:14:06,090 --> 00:14:12,180 over the top with many people on Fox. Literally saying, tortures 242 00:14:12,180 --> 00:14:17,400 good. I think these people deserve to be tortured. included 243 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,100 those poor 26 people that were in the group that had nothing to 244 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:23,070 do with anything and they were just tortured anyway, but they 245 00:14:23,070 --> 00:14:26,220 went on I do have a fox. It's kind of long, but it's worth 246 00:14:26,220 --> 00:14:29,640 listening to. This is a fox medley because I couldn't get 247 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,670 this part of the 65th I couldn't I just took little chunks from 248 00:14:32,670 --> 00:14:35,850 every one of these millions of clips from Fox Fox medley 249 00:14:36,090 --> 00:14:38,370 thirsty blood thirsty bastard. 250 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,300 Did you mix some house music to this man? I 251 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:43,680 if I had more time I would. 252 00:14:45,330 --> 00:14:48,840 Okay, we ready? Yeah, hit it. Is it useful? Was 253 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,810 it effective to use torture? Well, to start with, I would 254 00:14:51,810 --> 00:14:51,960 just 255 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,040 I did start off with the news hour. It's all the same. These 256 00:14:56,070 --> 00:14:59,340 people were all in and this is they have a person and then they 257 00:14:59,340 --> 00:15:01,590 have somebody spawning, usually a CIA guy 258 00:15:02,939 --> 00:15:04,979 at the World Cup. I mean, there were a lot of guys who came out 259 00:15:04,979 --> 00:15:08,069 who I hadn't seen either in a long time or ever. If they were 260 00:15:08,069 --> 00:15:11,039 all out on the on the circuit, it was pretty fun to watch. Is 261 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:11,789 it useful? Was 262 00:15:11,790 --> 00:15:14,790 it effective to use torture? Well, to start with I would 263 00:15:14,790 --> 00:15:18,150 disagree with the term torture. But the enhanced interrogation 264 00:15:18,180 --> 00:15:22,230 program that we utilize on a handful of top terrorist 265 00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:26,880 absolutely beyond any doubt, produced vital intelligence to 266 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,330 help keep America safe. Give me an example of Osama bin Laden. 267 00:15:31,049 --> 00:15:33,599 This makes no sense to me whatsoever. Meghan we were a 268 00:15:33,599 --> 00:15:37,679 nation at war. look at why would we release it now? What what did 269 00:15:37,679 --> 00:15:40,859 we have to gain? All of this has been debated, all of this has 270 00:15:40,859 --> 00:15:43,349 been settled. We understood all of that, 271 00:15:43,769 --> 00:15:48,599 that it will put Americans here and abroad at risk curious, and 272 00:15:48,599 --> 00:15:51,509 tonight Fox News confirming that the FBI and homeland security 273 00:15:51,509 --> 00:15:54,179 have sent a joint warning to law enforcement that the Senate 274 00:15:54,179 --> 00:15:57,929 report could in fact, Spark violence. Megan, on the 275 00:15:57,929 --> 00:16:01,319 allegation the CIA program was not effective. A former CIA 276 00:16:01,319 --> 00:16:04,049 officer with first hand knowledge of the interrogations, 277 00:16:04,289 --> 00:16:07,229 says nonliving architect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed one of three 278 00:16:07,229 --> 00:16:11,969 detainees waterboarded by the CIA generated 2000 intelligence 279 00:16:11,969 --> 00:16:15,509 reports. Tonight Americans at home and abroad are at greater 280 00:16:15,509 --> 00:16:19,769 risk than they were 24 hours ago. Tonight Americans at home 281 00:16:19,769 --> 00:16:23,249 and abroad are at greater risk than they were 24 hours ago. 282 00:16:23,639 --> 00:16:25,649 Our next guest says the release of this report amounts to 283 00:16:25,649 --> 00:16:28,949 nothing less than providing aid and comfort to the enemy in 284 00:16:28,949 --> 00:16:31,679 wartime Fox News strategic analyst Lieutenant Colonel Ralph 285 00:16:31,679 --> 00:16:33,959 Peters is with me, your reaction officer 286 00:16:35,130 --> 00:16:39,090 discussed same here last and more discussed. And you know, 287 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,620 Shawn, the very people that are flagellating the CIA today for 288 00:16:43,620 --> 00:16:47,160 doing what they approved it to do, are going to be the first 289 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,550 ones to cry intelligence failure when there's another attack. I 290 00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:52,140 mean, it's a messy world. 291 00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:54,720 I think the torture the I'm sorry, the enhanced 292 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,360 interrogation techniques. I think they serve their purpose. 293 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,260 I think they made us safer. ISIS is be heavy Americans. What 294 00:17:01,290 --> 00:17:05,490 What's worse, that, or Collete, Sheikh Mohammed getting some 295 00:17:05,490 --> 00:17:08,130 water splashed on his face or someone else getting slapped? Or 296 00:17:08,130 --> 00:17:10,200 hearing loud music or kept awake? 297 00:17:11,190 --> 00:17:18,720 Music in three days, all laws. Everything they did put together 298 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,140 in reports, there was no criminal prosecution from this. 299 00:17:22,140 --> 00:17:26,070 Do you understand that? And yours and saying, you know, we 300 00:17:26,070 --> 00:17:28,230 don't like what you did? Well, why didn't you any of the 301 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:30,000 senators who are on this intelligence committee and were 302 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,210 privy to this information? Why didn't you object then? And why 303 00:17:33,210 --> 00:17:34,410 are you doing it now? 304 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,490 It goes on and on and on with the same memes in the same they 305 00:17:41,490 --> 00:17:44,220 have, and it's on all the channels, but let's 306 00:17:44,220 --> 00:17:49,950 just state for a fact. What has come out of this. There is 307 00:17:49,950 --> 00:17:52,890 really it gives me no more pleasure than to hear the words 308 00:17:52,890 --> 00:17:56,580 rectal feeding and rectal hydration. I really, really 309 00:17:56,580 --> 00:17:58,200 think that is the funniest thing. 310 00:17:58,379 --> 00:18:02,489 Did you get that they actually had the recipe that went into 311 00:18:02,489 --> 00:18:04,289 the rectal feeding and you see that 312 00:18:04,290 --> 00:18:09,420 I mean, how can you ground salad, the meal which they call 313 00:18:09,420 --> 00:18:16,020 sloshing up this report this just it was so funny to me that 314 00:18:16,890 --> 00:18:20,640 the water tour and you know, water torture has been applied 315 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,510 for centuries probably. But yet we have in our politically 316 00:18:24,510 --> 00:18:28,770 correct world. And I think was actually rectal rehydration 317 00:18:28,770 --> 00:18:34,650 which makes it even funnier than rectal hydration. It. Okay, so I 318 00:18:34,650 --> 00:18:39,780 have had a back and forth with Uncle Don. And I have been 319 00:18:39,810 --> 00:18:42,210 upgraded in uncle Don's world. 320 00:18:43,980 --> 00:18:49,380 Okay, yes, i By the way, I did have questions that we I should 321 00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:51,990 have given to you to ask Uncle Don, which is what does he 322 00:18:51,990 --> 00:18:56,940 think? Well, I have Oh, yeah. Of Hayden and Rodriguez. Well, 323 00:18:58,890 --> 00:19:01,740 as the first one gave you his the first thing he said is new 324 00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:05,790 subject being referred to as Uncle Don reminds me of a 325 00:19:05,790 --> 00:19:10,650 children's radio program of my early youth by that name. I'm 326 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:14,100 very, I'm very proud to be your uncle. But let's just drop the 327 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:19,500 uncle bit. Now I call this an upgrade. I think he's he's 328 00:19:19,530 --> 00:19:24,240 taking me serious now. It's too late. So I did not ask him 329 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,460 specifically, but you want to hear what he what his general 330 00:19:26,460 --> 00:19:29,880 thoughts? Yeah, of course. So for those of you who are new to 331 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,410 the program, look up Donald Gregg. And you'll see why he 332 00:19:34,410 --> 00:19:38,100 speaks of some authority. And it is my belief that he is such a 333 00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:41,400 good guy these days. Certainly, that he that's why he's not 334 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,250 asked on any mainstream programming, mainstream media 335 00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:47,460 programming, because he actually speaks the truth. Certainly when 336 00:19:47,460 --> 00:19:51,510 it comes to North Korea, so he says the central question in 337 00:19:51,510 --> 00:19:54,300 this case, funny how he used a lot of these memes were always 338 00:19:54,300 --> 00:19:58,410 catching that is not being dealt with that question is Why was 339 00:19:58,410 --> 00:20:02,730 the CIA told to do what was told to do and who told them that 340 00:20:02,730 --> 00:20:06,090 brings into focus people like the miserable Attorney General 341 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:10,200 Alberto Gonzalez. The lawyers like John you who fell over 342 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,920 themselves legitimizing enhanced interrogation, giving legal 343 00:20:13,950 --> 00:20:18,000 legal cover to what CIA did. And by the way, whenever you guys 344 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,980 really the CIA, they never say the CIA. You notice that? 345 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:24,900 Now you notice it now? 346 00:20:24,930 --> 00:20:28,410 Yeah. So he says giving legal cover to what CIA did. The 347 00:20:28,410 --> 00:20:33,330 central bank Ukraine? Yes. The central and most painful part of 348 00:20:33,330 --> 00:20:37,140 this is that bush 43. And Cheney, having failed to prevent 349 00:20:37,140 --> 00:20:40,650 911 in the first place, lost faith in our ability to deal 350 00:20:40,650 --> 00:20:43,050 traditionally with the crisis they had largely caused 351 00:20:43,050 --> 00:20:47,250 themselves. That's the real rub of the issue. I think Obama 352 00:20:47,250 --> 00:20:51,090 wants to avoid that central point. But I think it's going to 353 00:20:51,090 --> 00:20:55,050 be hard for him to do. What do you think? He says? 354 00:20:57,090 --> 00:20:59,370 Well, he didn't throw in all the classic memes that they're 355 00:20:59,370 --> 00:21:02,790 using, which is we're now more danger than we were before our 356 00:21:02,790 --> 00:21:04,650 lives are at risk because of this report. 357 00:21:04,770 --> 00:21:07,410 Because I don't think I think he he probably thinks that's 358 00:21:07,410 --> 00:21:08,790 bullcrap. That's not important. Sure. He 359 00:21:08,790 --> 00:21:11,700 does. Most people that know anything, think it's bullcrap. 360 00:21:11,820 --> 00:21:14,910 But they're pushing it like there's no tomorrow. And what's 361 00:21:14,910 --> 00:21:18,750 funny is that there's a number of countries self contradictions 362 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,710 in the in all of their own debates. I don't think I 363 00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:27,570 honestly don't believe it was a top PR guys at the it's at CIA, 364 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:33,360 that that put the put the talking points together. I think 365 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:37,290 it was a public relations group put together by Hayden. Yeah, go 366 00:21:37,290 --> 00:21:41,430 hos definitely Hayden and Tennant. Do you want to read the 367 00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:44,910 three of them wrote that, that let the op ed in the New York 368 00:21:44,910 --> 00:21:48,240 Times, which, if you read that op ed, the talking points are 369 00:21:48,270 --> 00:21:51,660 all in there. And the main one they keep pushing is it did 370 00:21:51,660 --> 00:21:55,470 help. It did work. It did help it did work. And they just keep 371 00:21:55,470 --> 00:21:58,410 saying it over and over. And, and so all the Stooges that came 372 00:21:58,410 --> 00:22:01,890 in from, which is most of the people in the mainstream media, 373 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,650 with the exception of two people I can identify there may be 374 00:22:04,650 --> 00:22:07,740 more, and I never heard what Rachel had to say. So I don't 375 00:22:07,740 --> 00:22:11,850 know about her. I didn't slip. But I'll tell you the other 376 00:22:11,850 --> 00:22:16,380 lesbian Hayes, Christopher Hayes. That guy, 377 00:22:16,830 --> 00:22:19,020 why do you resort to name calling this discredit the 378 00:22:19,020 --> 00:22:20,010 entire program? 379 00:22:20,490 --> 00:22:24,810 From the back correspondents dinner? He would I give him full 380 00:22:24,810 --> 00:22:30,060 credit. He was not talking points. Oh, really? At all. And 381 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:34,890 I'm sure they're calling him Wow. To get him on board because 382 00:22:34,890 --> 00:22:40,590 he was brutal. And he had the best guy on he had Colonel 383 00:22:40,590 --> 00:22:45,000 Wilkerson. i Okay. Let's move right to get to it. Let's go to 384 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:50,370 Colonel Wilkins. Colonel Wilkerson is was Colin Powell is 385 00:22:50,370 --> 00:22:54,750 Chief of Staff. Right during this whole thing. And Wilkerson 386 00:22:54,750 --> 00:22:58,170 comes on as a guest and he's not the normal Richard Engel coming 387 00:22:58,170 --> 00:23:01,440 on to to apologize and say, Well, you know, we it's 388 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,440 unknowable. He used the unknowable meme and all the rest 389 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,220 of they're all everybody on all these channels with these. Let 390 00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:13,620 me just do one little quickie. Before that. There was one guy 391 00:23:13,620 --> 00:23:17,010 who I had to rush to get the this is actually kind of funny. 392 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,240 He took over one of the shows this guy Arey Melber, a ri 393 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,770 Melber. Airy Melber was never obviously read in or paid off or 394 00:23:25,770 --> 00:23:31,080 bought off. And he was a fly in in s NBCs ointment because he 395 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,320 was a substitute. And they didn't know I guess nobody knew 396 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:34,920 that he wasn't 397 00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:37,980 Oh, yeah. Oh, no. I saw this guy. Ari Ari, isn't it? Yeah. 398 00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:42,360 Hari Raya the nice. The nice looking Jewish boy. I've seen I 399 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:43,440 saw this. Yeah, okay, good. 400 00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:46,440 Okay, here he is jumping in on something that he shouldn't have 401 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,280 said anybody jumps in. And this is this clip is the one guy the 402 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,660 one guy on MSNBC question going forward is what is the role of 403 00:23:54,660 --> 00:23:55,380 the CIA? 404 00:23:55,530 --> 00:23:57,600 Sorry, I keep playing the right one. 405 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,230 The one guy and then the one guy on MSNBC. Well, there's 406 00:24:01,230 --> 00:24:06,120 no actual clip called one guy. There's one Trump's Oh, okay. 407 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,880 You got to help me out with that man. All right, here we go. 408 00:24:09,030 --> 00:24:12,510 Sometimes, in a time of war, you have to go out and do things 409 00:24:12,510 --> 00:24:15,480 that you wouldn't normally think were appropriate or right. But 410 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:15,810 if we're 411 00:24:15,810 --> 00:24:18,780 going to protect, the more you do war crimes, and that's what 412 00:24:18,780 --> 00:24:20,280 we're talking, we're talking about war crimes under the 413 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,270 Geneva Convention. 414 00:24:23,220 --> 00:24:25,050 They believe that they were justified because of the 415 00:24:25,050 --> 00:24:27,060 circumstances at the time. That is the argument they're making. 416 00:24:27,060 --> 00:24:29,370 And I think that's that's where this really is breaking down. 417 00:24:29,370 --> 00:24:32,460 Now. I think I do think most Republicans, at least publicly 418 00:24:32,460 --> 00:24:33,000 wasn't enough. 419 00:24:33,930 --> 00:24:37,170 There was a roundtable discussion and our thing was RV 420 00:24:37,170 --> 00:24:41,550 show and Touray was on the music course 421 00:24:41,550 --> 00:24:43,620 it was all detours all in with the memes 422 00:24:43,620 --> 00:24:46,230 and but he was you could they had the one of the go into 423 00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:48,210 commercial break and they have one of those shots where you see 424 00:24:48,210 --> 00:24:53,010 the whole group and he's rolling his eyes. Already we already 425 00:24:53,010 --> 00:24:54,540 didn't read his memo. 426 00:24:55,170 --> 00:24:58,170 Yeah, already apparently didn't read his memo. Because he was he 427 00:24:58,170 --> 00:25:02,970 was adamant about the report. He He read more than they did. They 428 00:25:02,970 --> 00:25:04,170 were talking points given 429 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,750 you know what's next for Irie podcasting? 430 00:25:08,099 --> 00:25:14,099 Probably poor bastard. He's out. Oh, so anyway we have Chris 431 00:25:14,099 --> 00:25:17,219 Hayes who obviously never He was never it because it was funny to 432 00:25:17,219 --> 00:25:19,739 watch the show before he isn't there all while you know, it was 433 00:25:19,739 --> 00:25:24,029 a time at the changing times and it was a 911 era and we had to 434 00:25:24,029 --> 00:25:27,479 do what we had to do and and if it wasn't for this, we wouldn't 435 00:25:27,479 --> 00:25:31,199 have caught Bin Laden, which by the way was 10 years after. 436 00:25:31,229 --> 00:25:35,279 Yeah. And it was also four years three, three or four years after 437 00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:36,779 they stopped doing this interrogators and then they 438 00:25:36,779 --> 00:25:39,839 can't catch bin Laden and now Yeah, sure. So the bin Laden 439 00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:44,279 thing is bullcrap. But let's listen to Wilkerson, who comes 440 00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:48,149 on to discuss this with Chris Hayes joins me 441 00:25:48,150 --> 00:25:50,820 now retired US Army Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson. He was Chief 442 00:25:50,820 --> 00:25:54,570 of Staff for Secretary of State Colin Powell, in 2000 to 2005. 443 00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:59,130 Your reaction to the reaction today, do you feel as if we've 444 00:25:59,130 --> 00:26:01,890 made progress as a nation in reckoning with this period? 445 00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:04,470 Where are we back where we were 10 years ago? 446 00:26:05,099 --> 00:26:08,159 I think the latter, Chris, because I don't think even 447 00:26:08,159 --> 00:26:10,919 though this might bring a modicum of accountability to 448 00:26:10,919 --> 00:26:13,889 some of the people at the top, some of the people you've named, 449 00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:18,359 I don't think anything really will be done. So whatever 450 00:26:18,479 --> 00:26:23,069 punitive a factor is to it will be whitewashed will might not be 451 00:26:23,069 --> 00:26:25,829 accomplished. And it's for lying. Let me tell you, I've 452 00:26:25,829 --> 00:26:29,159 been watching it all day, Chris. I've been watching people like 453 00:26:29,159 --> 00:26:33,719 Phil Mudd. And John McLaughlin, whom I spent so much time with, 454 00:26:33,719 --> 00:26:36,479 I grew sick of them, getting Powell ready for his 455 00:26:36,479 --> 00:26:40,229 presentation at the United Nations Phil Mudd. I remember 456 00:26:40,229 --> 00:26:44,339 him coming into the Waldorf Astoria Hotel Room, where at 2am 457 00:26:44,339 --> 00:26:48,029 in the morning of that morning, five February, I was taking 458 00:26:48,029 --> 00:26:51,839 things out of pals presentation that connected al Qaeda with 459 00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:55,979 Baghdad. And Phil was frantic, trying to get it stuck back in 460 00:26:56,249 --> 00:26:59,339 and even went and woke George Tenet up in his hotel and tried 461 00:26:59,339 --> 00:27:03,299 to get George Tenet to make me stop doing it. And then to hear 462 00:27:03,299 --> 00:27:07,799 Phil Mudd come on TV and talk about so calmly how competent 463 00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:11,129 and how wonderful this program was and how I worked and so 464 00:27:11,129 --> 00:27:15,089 forth. It almost made me sick to listen to that going on these 465 00:27:15,089 --> 00:27:18,929 people lied in my presence. They lied to Condi Rice, they lied to 466 00:27:18,929 --> 00:27:22,409 Steve Hadley kondisi deputy at the time they lied to rich 467 00:27:22,409 --> 00:27:26,429 Armitage pals deputy they lied to me. People like George Tenet, 468 00:27:26,429 --> 00:27:29,939 John McLachlan they lied about the mobile biological labs, they 469 00:27:29,939 --> 00:27:34,619 lied about connections with al Qaeda. So for them to sit there 470 00:27:34,619 --> 00:27:37,739 and say that they didn't lie to the Senate Select Committee or 471 00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:40,529 to the House Committee. It's absolutely absurd. 472 00:27:43,650 --> 00:27:47,220 Yeah, he's this is the only guy on any of the shows that I've 473 00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:52,770 seen that was there and not working for the agency or or 474 00:27:52,980 --> 00:27:56,070 Cheney and by the way, Wilkerson blames the whole thesis Cheney 475 00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:59,490 was the only one at the at the top that knew anything. But 476 00:27:59,490 --> 00:28:03,090 let's go to his he does have a thing, positive thing to say 477 00:28:03,090 --> 00:28:06,030 about the CIA, because there is a meme going on all this is a 478 00:28:06,030 --> 00:28:11,640 beating up flagellating the CIA, but but he has a kind of a 479 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,740 different take on it, which I believe is a little more 480 00:28:13,740 --> 00:28:15,510 logical. And this is the Wilkerson to 481 00:28:15,810 --> 00:28:18,510 recommendation job recommendation. Let's I want us 482 00:28:18,570 --> 00:28:21,360 both to try saying CIA instead of the CIA. 483 00:28:21,390 --> 00:28:23,610 Yeah, no, I know. Yeah. No. 484 00:28:26,010 --> 00:28:30,300 Wow. You went right down the trap. You went from the CIA to 485 00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:33,480 Yeah, no, I'm sorry. I'm just shut up. Yes, shut up. 486 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,830 Believe the CIA when the CIA says this is one sided. This is 487 00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:40,200 bunk. Don't Don't listen to this. 488 00:28:41,730 --> 00:28:45,540 This is another disservice to the agency. Chris, there are a 489 00:28:45,540 --> 00:28:48,780 lot of good people at the agency, there are just as many 490 00:28:48,780 --> 00:28:51,840 people I would submit, if you could do a survey, there would 491 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,890 be more people who are anxious to see the agency's name. And 492 00:28:55,890 --> 00:28:58,890 these people who've done these sorts of things cleared out 493 00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:02,580 anxious to see some sort of accountability, anxious to get 494 00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:05,790 their hands clean, to get the agency's hands cleaned, and to 495 00:29:05,790 --> 00:29:09,660 get on with business to do the things that the CIA should do in 496 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:12,480 the way that they should do them in conformance with the law when 497 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,220 and if possible. This is not an agency that is out there. You 498 00:29:17,220 --> 00:29:21,000 know, cowering in the dark, wondering as McLaughlin 499 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,360 intended, and others have said, if it has a future, this is a 500 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,420 group of people who would like to do their duty to their 501 00:29:27,420 --> 00:29:30,300 country and to their mission. And they'd like to get this 502 00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:31,560 stuff off their hands. 503 00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:36,570 Now, I agree with that. Totally agree. Yeah. Which is what Don 504 00:29:36,570 --> 00:29:39,390 wants. He says, Let's rip the band aid off, get to get the 505 00:29:39,390 --> 00:29:45,060 Panetta report out, which is the CIA's version of this. Get that 506 00:29:45,060 --> 00:29:49,170 out, redact what you have to but minimal and do it and just get 507 00:29:49,170 --> 00:29:50,190 over it and move on? 508 00:29:50,340 --> 00:29:54,240 I don't have a clip of this, but the redactions of the Feinstein 509 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,220 report are apparently ludicrous. According to Jay Rockefeller. He 510 00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:01,500 says that they Are they says that he saw that we're 511 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:05,460 unredacted versus the stuff that was taken out, including fake 512 00:30:05,460 --> 00:30:10,080 names. They were protecting names. So they actually put fake 513 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,710 names in the report to protect names. And they redacted those. 514 00:30:13,740 --> 00:30:17,970 Well, yeah. And abundant. There's a lot of dumb stuff that 515 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,320 we have less than 600 pages from 6000. So I call that a 90% 516 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,610 redaction right there. 517 00:30:24,420 --> 00:30:27,210 Right. Well, that one of the senators believes that the whole 518 00:30:27,210 --> 00:30:30,030 report will eventually be released. Of course. 519 00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:34,020 25 years it gets declassified. Eventually it will be Yeah. 520 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,230 So Wilkerson, part three, I thought was the best of the 521 00:30:37,230 --> 00:30:37,560 clips 522 00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:41,310 internal CIA email from July 12 2003. noted, the White House 523 00:30:41,310 --> 00:30:44,490 is extremely concerned, Secretary Powell would blow his 524 00:30:44,490 --> 00:30:48,360 stack if he would be briefed on what's been going on. You're 525 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,790 working for Secretary Powell that time your reaction to that. 526 00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:54,750 I'm sure that's probably the case. I got to see him. That 527 00:30:54,750 --> 00:30:58,050 worked for him over 12 years. And I got to see him blow his 528 00:30:58,050 --> 00:31:02,670 stack worse than he'd ever blown it before, at the CIA, with 529 00:31:02,670 --> 00:31:05,730 George Tenet and John McLaughlin, because he says to 530 00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:09,570 what was being done to them, he took me into a room and told me 531 00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:13,410 to cut about 25% of the presentation he was supposed to 532 00:31:13,410 --> 00:31:17,310 give out, told me to take it out because it was worthless. He was 533 00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:20,580 even worried that it wasn't accurate. And then within a few 534 00:31:20,580 --> 00:31:24,360 minutes, George Tenet showed up with the spellbinding news that 535 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,470 a high level al Qaeda operative had revealed under interrogation 536 00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:32,850 he said no revealing that he was being tortured at the time that 537 00:31:32,850 --> 00:31:35,910 he had revealed significant contacts between Al Qaeda and 538 00:31:35,910 --> 00:31:39,450 Saddam Hussein's operatives in Baghdad, this was a flat out 539 00:31:39,450 --> 00:31:42,570 lie. We later learned it was Sheikh Al Libbi, that he was 540 00:31:42,570 --> 00:31:46,620 being tortured, no USA personnel were even present. And that 541 00:31:46,620 --> 00:31:49,500 within a week to 10 days, he recounted what he'd given under 542 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:53,100 torture. So this is the kind of thing that was happening when I 543 00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:56,130 was out at the CIA for five days and nights with these people who 544 00:31:56,130 --> 00:31:59,100 are now trying to tell the American people that they were 545 00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:01,050 competent, and they were telling the truth. 546 00:32:02,730 --> 00:32:05,280 Yeah, this summarizes things. 547 00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:09,270 I have a couple of things to add to this as you move along. Just 548 00:32:09,270 --> 00:32:12,420 wanted to get the this is Hayden, who by the way, has 549 00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:15,570 developed a tic? Yes, I 550 00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:17,790 know. It's just somebody mentioned that I noticed this 551 00:32:17,790 --> 00:32:18,330 tech stack 552 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,480 stack mentioned it and I and I went looking at Oh, man, oh, 553 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,750 he's got a, he's got a twitch in his eye 554 00:32:24,750 --> 00:32:27,480 and blinking eye blink, blink, blink one eye blink. And 555 00:32:28,170 --> 00:32:32,130 this is this is stress. It is stress. I'm an expert on tics. 556 00:32:32,490 --> 00:32:35,430 This is stress. And he's saying a lot of look, I think this is 557 00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:38,940 his central, the central argument. And I have something 558 00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:40,530 to say about this precisely. 559 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,890 This isn't a response here about defending torture. I'm here 560 00:32:43,890 --> 00:32:47,640 talking to you about defending history. What we really could 561 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:52,890 have used is a really non political look at the CIA 562 00:32:52,890 --> 00:32:56,880 program. The one that was the one that was launched, when this 563 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,240 report first got underway, this report was supposed to have 564 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,520 conducted interviews, hearings, and give recommendations. It 565 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,880 doesn't have any of those. I was in government for 10 years after 566 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,270 911. And let me tell you a phrase I never heard from 567 00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:16,650 anybody in any position of authority. Whatever you guys do 568 00:33:16,650 --> 00:33:20,760 about this terrorism threat, please, please don't overreact. 569 00:33:21,090 --> 00:33:22,350 Never heard of Brian. 570 00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:26,820 And this is so what well, but this is really what it comes 571 00:33:26,820 --> 00:33:32,340 down to my view on this is that in general, the general 572 00:33:32,910 --> 00:33:38,520 consensus of the American citizen is we don't care. Oh, I 573 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,740 agree. We don't care. We don't care if you have to shove 574 00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:43,470 broomsticks up people's asses if you're going to rectally 575 00:33:43,470 --> 00:33:46,740 rehydrate them. We don't care. We don't care. And we've been 576 00:33:46,740 --> 00:33:51,030 trained as Big Bad motherfuckers to go out and kill everybody. 577 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,440 Drone, everybody. We don't care. We're a blood thirsty. And we've 578 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,980 been trained that way. We're militaristic, we're trained to 579 00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:02,880 kill. And in general, we don't care. And people were like, Oh, 580 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,910 well, the Democrat bullshit. Everybody here is trained to 581 00:34:05,910 --> 00:34:06,420 kill. 582 00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:10,860 No, I don't think I actually the only one. There's one person 583 00:34:10,860 --> 00:34:13,140 that brought it up and then the guy backed off some guy wrote a 584 00:34:13,140 --> 00:34:19,440 book is semi critical on hardball. Chris Matthews has 585 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,380 gotten a hard ball and he uses the end. Matthews is the only 586 00:34:22,380 --> 00:34:24,450 guy because I've been waiting for somebody to say if it's 587 00:34:24,450 --> 00:34:26,640 sadism, because that's what I always believed this was a 588 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,600 really all about. He had a bunch of sadists with an opportunity. 589 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,810 I mean, you see guys like Rodriguez, I mean, he looks like 590 00:34:33,810 --> 00:34:36,630 a guy you don't really want to ever meet or know. 591 00:34:37,020 --> 00:34:40,950 And I tell us he wrote Rodriguez. Rodriguez was 592 00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:44,490 the head of covert operations under Hayden. And he was one of 593 00:34:44,490 --> 00:34:48,060 the guys that was running the torture program. And he is 594 00:34:48,330 --> 00:34:52,110 usually doing a duo a double bit with hate and floating around 595 00:34:52,260 --> 00:34:55,830 defending everything they did for out of fear. Or there's two 596 00:34:55,830 --> 00:34:58,920 fears one which is I think unwarranted, which is the United 597 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,210 States will will I filed charges against them because they Hayden 598 00:35:03,210 --> 00:35:05,970 in particular lied and lied and lied and lied and when he 599 00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:11,070 brought what the clip you had yeah the original he's right the 600 00:35:11,070 --> 00:35:13,020 original investigation was going to be a bunch of interviews and 601 00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:16,020 some other things but it turned out they were the people that 602 00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:19,170 were going to be interviewed were lying constantly. They were 603 00:35:19,170 --> 00:35:22,020 intimidating the staff they were spying 604 00:35:22,020 --> 00:35:25,800 on them Yeah, they were spying on spying they were spying 605 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,600 him but they were also intimidating there were there 606 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,140 were threats there were death threats subtle death threats 607 00:35:31,140 --> 00:35:36,450 there came in into the office it's what we do well then then 608 00:35:36,930 --> 00:35:39,840 Feinstein who was doesn't give a crap about this because she 609 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,960 knows is bogus. She said we're not this is not going to work 610 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,450 this way. What we're going to do is get every document we can out 611 00:35:45,450 --> 00:35:49,320 of their office and they took 6 million documents and read every 612 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,260 email they could and and what and there's no reason if 613 00:35:52,260 --> 00:35:55,410 somebody in the email says well we killed this guy by accident 614 00:35:55,410 --> 00:35:58,740 here at this this this black site and then they put all the 615 00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:01,620 details in there for some unknown reason they do this and 616 00:36:01,620 --> 00:36:04,440 the but they did what's the what are you going to ask the guy 617 00:36:04,650 --> 00:36:07,200 he's just put it on the email he's got all the information 618 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,710 that you don't need to to talk to him after the fact one of the 619 00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:14,490 memes and all this is all they never interviewed anybody. They 620 00:36:14,490 --> 00:36:17,820 never interviewed the people who were tortured. They gonna say 621 00:36:18,090 --> 00:36:21,480 and they never interviewed the torturers. Okay, well, you 622 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,090 didn't but you have 6 million documents to extract this 623 00:36:24,090 --> 00:36:26,340 information from you don't really need to interview 624 00:36:26,340 --> 00:36:28,020 anybody. It's kind of like historical 625 00:36:28,050 --> 00:36:32,580 and here's the thing this is this what this really does is it 626 00:36:32,580 --> 00:36:38,130 destroys and chops down the American exceptionalism because 627 00:36:38,130 --> 00:36:41,250 we're no better than the Japanese you know what they've 628 00:36:41,250 --> 00:36:44,490 done we know better than the Chinese we know better than the 629 00:36:44,490 --> 00:36:47,580 German Nazis we know better and we're just people and we have 630 00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:51,360 all of our crazy crap like every but everybody else but we have 631 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,890 this nice veneer we put over it and we expect this to end like 632 00:36:55,890 --> 00:36:59,850 all of our movies do no boy gets girl a happier happily ever 633 00:36:59,850 --> 00:37:06,870 after. And it's just even Dawn is not seeing that preaches suck 634 00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:11,790 like everybody else we just have we have cooler uniforms we have 635 00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:12,390 we should 636 00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:13,500 suck less 637 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,220 yeah that's the idea but we don't it's not we're 638 00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:20,610 not going to we're never will if we if we have all these blood 639 00:37:20,610 --> 00:37:25,230 thirsty a holes that are on Fox. And even obviously, apparently 640 00:37:25,230 --> 00:37:29,460 on MSNBC. I have some guys are just pushing, pushing, pushing. 641 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,990 And you know, we got a thing about this at the end. But let 642 00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:35,610 me play a couple more things here that are kind of 643 00:37:35,610 --> 00:37:38,280 interesting. Sure. Sure. Al Sharpton is all in on this. By 644 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,600 the way, you know, even though Sharpton had to kind of tone his 645 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,260 down a little bit, but Richard angle seems to be the point guy 646 00:37:46,260 --> 00:37:50,820 for the CIA. Who will again, we Richard II. We've talked him on 647 00:37:50,820 --> 00:37:53,400 the show before we've had clips from him on the show before he 648 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,210 is the foreign correspondent for NBC. Yes, he's the guys always 649 00:37:57,210 --> 00:38:00,090 in one time era. He was doing a report from Paris and he was 650 00:38:00,090 --> 00:38:04,050 busted for doing it were Theiss. He said one thing and it was 651 00:38:04,050 --> 00:38:05,160 someplace else now he's a 652 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,800 phony, phony, phony, phony, phony. And he 653 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:13,620 is he was on all the shows on MSNBC. He was on the the first 654 00:38:13,620 --> 00:38:16,500 show where he got into a beef with this with the with IRA or 655 00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:20,940 whatever is a Ari, Ari, he got into a beef with Ari on an Early 656 00:38:20,940 --> 00:38:24,120 Show. Then the Tory the roundabout show came on. And 657 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,270 then Ari was on that show too. And he got to do another beef 658 00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:29,850 with angle and angles kept saying the exact same things in 659 00:38:29,850 --> 00:38:32,850 every show. He varied it a little bit. Then he shows up on 660 00:38:32,850 --> 00:38:36,390 Sharpton and I assume he showed up on everybody show except 661 00:38:36,570 --> 00:38:39,630 Hayes's Chris Hayes's show he didn't show up, right, because 662 00:38:39,630 --> 00:38:44,940 he had some other guy who, who was obviously a CIA guy, but he 663 00:38:46,020 --> 00:38:48,600 didn't do one a battle with Hayes because it was obviously 664 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,450 Hayes was on the warpath, and he wasn't it then he just kind of 665 00:38:51,450 --> 00:38:54,150 backed off. And so nothing came with that. But the here's the 666 00:38:54,180 --> 00:38:57,300 angle and Sharpton is the kind of report you'd have with these 667 00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:00,180 guys in his kind of answer you get from a stupid question. The 668 00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:03,090 question is a mean question. Right from the talking points. 669 00:39:04,260 --> 00:39:08,910 Joining me now is NBC News Chief foreign correspondent Richard 670 00:39:08,910 --> 00:39:11,400 Engel thank you for being here. Richard. My pleasure. How are 671 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:18,930 you? Good. Did the CIA go rogue all was there more to it? Well, 672 00:39:18,930 --> 00:39:22,230 I think in one element, I think the country went rogue 673 00:39:22,290 --> 00:39:26,220 there's no real conflict. The country went rogue rogue. The 674 00:39:26,220 --> 00:39:29,430 content that's what I'm saying. I agree. The country went rogue. 675 00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:34,140 He didn't he did it just to kind of push people off of the 676 00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:37,110 questioning. Yeah, that wasn't the best I'm sure that was not 677 00:39:37,110 --> 00:39:39,360 the best talking point. 678 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,910 You don't you don't you're not watching CNN Do you mind if I 679 00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:46,260 play a little CNN intermezzo here. Play this is this the 680 00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:49,350 report just coming out Brooke. Brooke, CNN. 681 00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:50,910 Your baby 682 00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:55,680 books Brooke the Dave who they airbrush her so well in the with 683 00:39:55,710 --> 00:40:00,420 within with the the makeup spray paint. Oh yeah. believable. And 684 00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:06,900 she has a Christiane Amanpour on and two memes here. One. Putin 685 00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:12,000 wouldn't dare put out a report about his torture. Right? And 686 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,400 then the other one is a familiar one that we've that we've seen 687 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,930 recently in which I believe, 688 00:40:15,989 --> 00:40:18,929 how do they get Putin into this now that she's good. 689 00:40:20,580 --> 00:40:24,120 She's good. She gets Brooke, my girl, Brooke on CNN, and 690 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,050 unimportant brings in something that has been lingering around. 691 00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:31,920 And we recently discussed one of the cases and what we think this 692 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,880 is really all about in international new world order 693 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,200 terms. Finally, this 694 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,080 trend transparency in this report, and this is something 695 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,590 that say, Vladimir Putin would never ever do that a 696 00:40:43,590 --> 00:40:48,390 possibility. Well, precisely. I mean, that's, I can't think of 697 00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:51,450 another government that has a would do this kind of thing, 698 00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:54,630 whether Western democracies over here, or obviously, 699 00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:58,050 dictatorships and authoritarian regimes just wouldn't be doing 700 00:40:58,050 --> 00:41:01,050 this. And I think obviously, philosophically, morally, 701 00:41:01,050 --> 00:41:04,590 ethically, that is a strength of the United States to confront 702 00:41:04,590 --> 00:41:09,600 this massive wrongdoing, to put it out in public, and to try to 703 00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:12,960 move forward in a way that corrects that and make sure that 704 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,560 doesn't happen. You know, when you think about it, this all 705 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,700 goes back to the days after 911, when Secretary of Defense Donald 706 00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:24,090 Rumsfeld cast out the Geneva Conventions and said, I don't 707 00:41:24,090 --> 00:41:27,570 give a uto What about the Geneva Conventions, these people are 708 00:41:27,570 --> 00:41:30,900 terrorists, and we're gonna get them any which way. And to that 709 00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:34,140 point, though, what's happened, as your previous guests, Karen 710 00:41:34,140 --> 00:41:37,980 Greenberg said, while this may or may not be strictly illegal 711 00:41:37,980 --> 00:41:41,040 in the United States, and you know, all the tortured legality 712 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,030 that has tried to justify this, it is most definitely a crime 713 00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:48,900 under international law. And so my guest, former colonel of the 714 00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:53,340 Air Force, former prosecutor at, at one terrible day said he 715 00:41:53,340 --> 00:41:58,020 would advise any Americans named in this investigation, or at all 716 00:41:58,050 --> 00:42:01,980 tainted by all of this to vacation domestically. I mean, 717 00:42:01,980 --> 00:42:06,000 that is, you know, a real worry that they, you know, be had up 718 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,060 under international law. For this kind of activity, 719 00:42:09,060 --> 00:42:11,430 were two things we learned here is that she may not be 720 00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:16,230 compromised, like 90% of the other people, as by what she 721 00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:19,170 said, because there's no talking point. So I think she's mi six, 722 00:42:19,170 --> 00:42:21,960 six if and yeah, no, I would, I would agree she may be British, 723 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,850 and she's not going to be going for then he was not gonna be 724 00:42:23,850 --> 00:42:27,600 reading somebody else's talking points. The thing about that 725 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,870 what she said, though, I agree. 100%. And that, that I believe 726 00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:32,790 is why Hayden has those ticks? 727 00:42:33,210 --> 00:42:36,600 Yeah, cuz she doesn't want to get arrested. Yeah, he 728 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,450 knows. I mean, you it's almost like being a prisoner in the 729 00:42:39,450 --> 00:42:43,350 country. Because it's exactly what it is. I mean, Cheney's 730 00:42:43,350 --> 00:42:47,190 worried about going overseas, Bush doesn't appear to care, 731 00:42:47,220 --> 00:42:52,170 because he never traveled any way of staying home, stays in 732 00:42:52,170 --> 00:42:55,230 his ranch. He doesn't care. But wouldn't bother him in the least 733 00:42:55,230 --> 00:42:58,530 of us. And you indicted in Germany for something 734 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,890 I find it interesting just to see the we had this case with 735 00:43:01,890 --> 00:43:05,340 the president of Kenya, and we know the International Criminal 736 00:43:05,340 --> 00:43:08,910 Court, although they really don't care to really prosecute 737 00:43:08,910 --> 00:43:12,870 anyone, and they've really never prosecuted anyone fully. And as 738 00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:17,370 far as I know, the no case has actually won been won. Anything. 739 00:43:17,460 --> 00:43:19,290 I thought Milosevic was one. 740 00:43:19,919 --> 00:43:23,339 A he I think he just he died prematurely. Didn't he die 741 00:43:23,759 --> 00:43:25,469 before they finished? Oh, that's 742 00:43:25,470 --> 00:43:28,320 a possibility. That's one way of getting taken care of it. I kill 743 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:28,500 him. 744 00:43:28,529 --> 00:43:29,969 I thought he died. Yeah. 745 00:43:30,330 --> 00:43:31,590 Look, I'm looking at what you're talking about. 746 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:39,060 Let me see. Of course, we had a couple of couple of questions 747 00:43:39,060 --> 00:43:44,940 for Josh Earnest in the which I like to watch in the press 748 00:43:44,940 --> 00:43:45,660 briefings. 749 00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:49,650 This he died, he died. I told you 2006 He died before 750 00:43:49,650 --> 00:43:52,800 they could fully Ignite. And he represented himself and the 751 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,480 whole thing was a farce. So yeah, here is Major Garrett. 752 00:43:57,810 --> 00:44:00,480 What's made major is ABC. NBC Major 753 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,780 Garrett is the I believe he is ABC best best disc jockey 754 00:44:03,780 --> 00:44:07,710 name ever. Yeah, man, you got traffic and weather. Have you 755 00:44:07,950 --> 00:44:11,580 ever bought a major garden? Martin? Asked me, of course, 756 00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:14,190 about the political timing of this report. Gosh, over the 757 00:44:14,190 --> 00:44:14,910 weekend, Senate 758 00:44:14,910 --> 00:44:17,820 Democrats spent a good deal of time talking among themselves 759 00:44:17,820 --> 00:44:21,030 about whether this was the right time to release that report. And 760 00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:23,490 there are many who believe this is not the right time, but it's 761 00:44:23,490 --> 00:44:26,700 a very, very close call that there are a number of objective 762 00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:29,730 reasons why it's, as you've just hinted a moment ago, never a 763 00:44:29,730 --> 00:44:32,760 good time to release this report. From the White House's 764 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,430 perspective, what is the deciding factor that makes this 765 00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:38,850 the right time other than the political calendar which 766 00:44:38,940 --> 00:44:41,610 suggests if Senate Republicans are in charge Intelligence 767 00:44:41,610 --> 00:44:43,710 Committee, this report will never see the light of day. 768 00:44:44,670 --> 00:44:48,720 The fact is major the right time will be determined by members of 769 00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:51,930 the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence that is as it 770 00:44:51,930 --> 00:44:54,300 should be, it's their report, and they should make the 771 00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:56,640 decision about the appropriate time well, for at least, the 772 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,410 President is chiefly responsible 773 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,650 for articulating and bending the security this country its 774 00:45:01,650 --> 00:45:04,890 emphases and its personnel. He has to have an opinion on this. 775 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,910 It can't be a simple casual bystander leaving it to the 776 00:45:08,910 --> 00:45:12,150 committee to decide entirely on its own, without any guidance 777 00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:13,950 was the best time? Well, 778 00:45:13,980 --> 00:45:16,920 again, we have been, I don't want to get the impression that 779 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,930 there hasn't been any guidance right there. There has been 780 00:45:18,930 --> 00:45:21,450 communication between the administration and the 781 00:45:21,450 --> 00:45:24,000 committee. Again, that's something that they have to 782 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,610 decide that the members of the committee have to decide for 783 00:45:26,610 --> 00:45:30,480 themselves, it is their report. And as you've reminded me on a 784 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,860 number of occasions, despite the President's priority that he 785 00:45:34,860 --> 00:45:36,780 places on the safety and security of United States of 786 00:45:36,780 --> 00:45:39,450 America, the legislative branch is 787 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,120 on board with him. There is of course, something else that was 788 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,900 going on during all of this, which was kind of pushed to the 789 00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:49,380 background, which I will get to when you when you wrap all this 790 00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:54,000 up. But obviously there was a $1.1 trillion spending bill with 791 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:54,690 all kinds of 792 00:45:55,049 --> 00:45:59,519 little gotchas. So can I wrap in that thing? Yes. And of course, 793 00:45:59,549 --> 00:46:02,789 campaign finance reform, what does that got to do with 794 00:46:02,789 --> 00:46:03,389 anything? 795 00:46:03,630 --> 00:46:06,240 Federal land changes, I mean, there's a lot of things 796 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:11,610 happening. And, and to me, it felt this was a major reason for 797 00:46:11,610 --> 00:46:15,990 the timing is to get this done and have and not just get the 798 00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:20,280 spending bill done, but have the ability for all kinds of groovy 799 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,520 little things to be put in there. I mean, really, really 800 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,130 groovy stuff. I mean, we're going to invade Burma Just Say 801 00:46:26,130 --> 00:46:30,210 No stuff that's in there is nuts. 802 00:46:31,470 --> 00:46:35,340 Yeah, well, that's it was probably one of the many reasons 803 00:46:35,340 --> 00:46:38,700 I think it was it was covering up a lot of stuff. I have 804 00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:43,170 another one that's kind of different. Here in meanwhile, 805 00:46:43,230 --> 00:46:47,880 even the Senate has a number of great speeches. The John 806 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:48,930 McCain's was outstanding. 807 00:46:49,169 --> 00:46:52,649 I thought it was I agree. That was a Um, no. John McCain fan. 808 00:46:52,770 --> 00:46:55,290 I know. The show is not a John. 809 00:46:55,379 --> 00:46:59,129 John also loved me. He said the speech of his career and Don 810 00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:01,559 does not like John McCain. Right? 811 00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:04,379 A lot of people don't, but everyone liked it. Who really 812 00:47:04,379 --> 00:47:05,249 likes John McCain? 813 00:47:05,730 --> 00:47:07,290 Raise your hand without talking. Lindsey 814 00:47:07,290 --> 00:47:12,390 Graham comes up after John McCain essentially condemns 815 00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:13,800 McCain speeches, 816 00:47:13,830 --> 00:47:14,910 these guys are playing 817 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:18,150 dead grandma is going to be in the doghouse with McCain for a 818 00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:22,140 while. And then of course, my favorite one that came up I 819 00:47:22,410 --> 00:47:25,230 actually like Jay Rockefeller is the best. Rockefeller had a 820 00:47:25,230 --> 00:47:28,320 great one here, I'll put a bring it into the next show, because 821 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,340 he had an anecdote, a couple of anecdotes that were really good. 822 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,320 And, and Patrick Leahy had a bunch of interesting anecdotes 823 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,480 that I thought were funny. In fact, it was going to skip to 824 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,840 this one because this is this. He's talking about how he 825 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,750 realized that there's the lying that was going on in front of 826 00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:48,900 this committee and in front of Congress, and it was getting on 827 00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:50,730 their nerves, which is one of the reasons they wanted to 828 00:47:50,730 --> 00:47:55,410 release les he is Democrat. Yes, Lee, he's a Democrat. And I 829 00:47:55,410 --> 00:47:58,140 don't think this was that motive politically motivated, even 830 00:47:58,140 --> 00:48:03,060 though everyone likes to think that, but this is my, my Les, he 831 00:48:03,090 --> 00:48:05,880 who's hard to understand nowadays, and there's a long 832 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,720 clip, but it's well worth it. Because this is, this is right 833 00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:14,490 out of the house of cards. This is a story that if you can use 834 00:48:14,490 --> 00:48:17,610 like, again, late he's lost his voice. But this is the story 835 00:48:17,610 --> 00:48:20,550 about how Washington really works. And this is Leahy's story 836 00:48:20,550 --> 00:48:21,660 about the joggers 837 00:48:21,780 --> 00:48:26,010 that very similar to what we had leading up to the border rack 838 00:48:26,010 --> 00:48:30,900 after 911. I remember being in those hearings. Mr. President. I 839 00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:34,230 remember listening to the Vice President. I remember listening 840 00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:38,490 to others in the secret hearings, and thinking it 841 00:48:38,490 --> 00:48:42,720 doesn't ring true. And I stated that I thought some of the 842 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:46,440 things you were telling us didn't ring true. And I remember 843 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,000 walking early one morning with my wife near our home, and two 844 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:56,220 joggers coming up calling us by name people would never seen in 845 00:48:56,220 --> 00:49:00,120 the neighborhood. Hey, asshole. One of them said I hear you have 846 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:05,910 some questions. Have you asked to see report and names of 847 00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:09,030 particular report? I said I hadn't. I didn't know there was 848 00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:15,540 such a tape. So you might find it interesting to read. I did 849 00:49:16,260 --> 00:49:21,480 that I raised even more questions about what I'd read. 850 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,890 They're totally contradicted. But the vice president others 851 00:49:25,890 --> 00:49:32,010 who say and I mentioned that to some. Two days later, we're out 852 00:49:32,010 --> 00:49:38,940 walking again. Both joggers. My wife remembers this so well. A 853 00:49:38,940 --> 00:49:45,360 bad 10. They say I see you read reports as I say I did. But did 854 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,860 they tell you about this other report? I said I didn't know 855 00:49:49,860 --> 00:49:57,570 there was such one. You may find it interesting. And I got it was 856 00:49:57,570 --> 00:50:01,500 obvious from that that there was holding evidence Saddam Hussein 857 00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:05,190 had nothing to do with 911 Contrary to what the Vice 858 00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:09,570 President others say, there were no weapons of mass destruction, 859 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:18,690 that this is not proved to be a harmful nation to us. In fact, 860 00:50:18,690 --> 00:50:24,030 they're actually well pendant by the no fly zone we set up. But 861 00:50:24,030 --> 00:50:27,750 we rush to war because we'll show them. They did not love it 862 00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:32,130 either. I had nothing to do. I love it. Now almost $3 trillion 863 00:50:32,550 --> 00:50:35,970 later. Look at the mess where 864 00:50:37,860 --> 00:50:41,910 you know, the thing that saddens me about all this is we are 865 00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:45,840 doing exactly the same right now. We are we are being lied to 866 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:52,920 about just one small example ISIS ISIL is who are going to 867 00:50:53,250 --> 00:50:57,090 put get in there flying toyoda's and come over here and kill us 868 00:50:57,090 --> 00:51:01,950 all. There, we've been lied to with fake. I see no difference 869 00:51:01,950 --> 00:51:05,340 between these fake truly fake beheading videos. beheadings 870 00:51:05,340 --> 00:51:08,100 happen, these videos are fake, they certainly don't show an 871 00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:10,860 actual beheading. It's no different from Colin Powell 872 00:51:10,860 --> 00:51:14,190 holding up a vial of anthrax or, you know, yellow cake or any of 873 00:51:14,190 --> 00:51:17,310 this stuff. And so it is happening. We are being 874 00:51:17,310 --> 00:51:22,260 distracted from lies taking place that yet again. And to me, 875 00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:27,420 if I think I hold the American public, I think if we actually 876 00:51:27,420 --> 00:51:31,770 said hey, you know what, this mofo, Saddam Hussein, he wants 877 00:51:31,770 --> 00:51:37,020 to ruin us by not using our petro dollar to trade in his 878 00:51:37,050 --> 00:51:41,790 oil. He wants to use the euro. We got to take him out. I think 879 00:51:41,790 --> 00:51:45,420 then the American people will be like, Yeah, and we and it would 880 00:51:45,420 --> 00:51:50,130 be truth. And we'd be done with it. And maybe Saddam Hussein 881 00:51:50,130 --> 00:51:54,390 would have said, crap, man, we shouldn't do this. Why we think 882 00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:57,720 we have to lie to everybody. We've evolved a little bit, you 883 00:51:57,720 --> 00:51:59,880 know. That's my feeling. 884 00:52:01,650 --> 00:52:07,740 I think your feeling stems from Hope and Change. Something that 885 00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:11,070 doesn't really exist. Yeah, the general public at large as you 886 00:52:11,070 --> 00:52:13,830 as you can see how easily people are fooled when you go to the 887 00:52:13,830 --> 00:52:15,900 store he's listened to to have some people having a 888 00:52:15,900 --> 00:52:19,080 conversation non no agenda listeners, let's say yeah. And 889 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,840 they're, and they're just spewing the same memes that 890 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,900 we're talking about here, back and forth, and back and forth. 891 00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:28,890 And ball. Yeah, it worked. It got we caught Bin Laden, because 892 00:52:28,890 --> 00:52:31,950 of the torture, when there's actually zero evidence of that 893 00:52:31,950 --> 00:52:35,730 it was 10 years later, and for three or four years after the 894 00:52:35,730 --> 00:52:39,960 torture ended. It's like the end. And by the way, the 895 00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:45,840 Feinstein report, which was one I'm gonna call it had gone 896 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,610 extensively into the bull crap, that we caught Bin Laden based 897 00:52:50,610 --> 00:52:54,870 on torture, when in fact, there's no zero evidence of it. 898 00:52:55,170 --> 00:52:58,230 And but yet, if you go and listen to these shows, it keeps 899 00:52:58,230 --> 00:53:01,110 coming up again, and again, and again, Hayden still says it, 900 00:53:01,110 --> 00:53:04,590 they all keep saying it. And so and they're saying it a lot more 901 00:53:04,590 --> 00:53:07,110 than Feinstein, because who listens to the who's going to 902 00:53:07,110 --> 00:53:11,130 read that report or the summary, or listen to that one guy, and 903 00:53:11,130 --> 00:53:14,010 Chris Hayes's show that you did likelihood of catching that 904 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,550 zero. I mean, that's not a very popular show. And you meanwhile, 905 00:53:17,550 --> 00:53:20,760 you listen to hate and I got a funny clip on Hayden online. You 906 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,080 want to just drop that in. 907 00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:26,910 Okay, hold on a second. I was just rereading Don's op ed about 908 00:53:26,910 --> 00:53:29,430 torture. I remember I sent that to you, like two months ago. 909 00:53:29,550 --> 00:53:33,900 Yeah. Some interesting historic perspective in that I'll put it 910 00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:35,250 in, in the show notes. 911 00:53:36,450 --> 00:53:39,060 What do I have here? Michael Hayden on lying. 912 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,850 Okay, sorry. I'm gonna introduce Hayden. 913 00:53:42,299 --> 00:53:46,019 So when Dianne Feinstein today says you lied, is she lying? 914 00:53:47,790 --> 00:53:51,840 I'll go so far as to say she's incorrect. I mean, lying. Lying 915 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,830 is intentionally intentionally misleading someone. All right. 916 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,430 Let me make another distinction. telling people something they 917 00:53:59,430 --> 00:54:02,550 don't want to hear is not the same thing as telling people 918 00:54:02,550 --> 00:54:03,660 something that is untrue. 919 00:54:05,340 --> 00:54:08,940 I did not have sexual relations with that. Why did he say oh, 920 00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:12,630 no, what he said, these guys are all caught with their pants 921 00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:13,080 down. 922 00:54:14,940 --> 00:54:18,630 Well, they're they they're doing I think a grip. Personally, I 923 00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:22,170 think they're doing it because they call out to troops. Every 924 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,040 time. I've said in the newsletter, we have had this 925 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:30,990 rare opportunity to spot the spooks while they're 926 00:54:30,990 --> 00:54:33,990 wearing revolving lights on their heads. Now that's like 927 00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:36,870 spook spook, spook spook, as 928 00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:40,260 you can tell the ones who are the spooks, and it's so easy to 929 00:54:40,260 --> 00:54:43,710 get this. They say the same things they they support. They 930 00:54:43,710 --> 00:54:47,610 don't they didn't want to report that one of the things I said 931 00:54:47,610 --> 00:54:50,970 before is that the stupidity of this they all say that one of 932 00:54:50,970 --> 00:54:54,270 the memes is oh, well, none of this information is new. We 933 00:54:54,270 --> 00:54:58,770 already knew this. We knew it. We knew it. We knew it. So why 934 00:54:58,890 --> 00:55:00,930 and then they'll say that one One breath and then a few 935 00:55:00,930 --> 00:55:05,010 breaths later say releasing this report is going to cost 936 00:55:05,070 --> 00:55:09,570 Americans lives. It's going to make no way. I mean, if everyone 937 00:55:09,570 --> 00:55:14,430 already knew this, it was public domain. By argument, what 938 00:55:14,430 --> 00:55:18,300 difference does it make? What is the rate to paraphrase Hillary? 939 00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:21,150 What difference does it make if you release this report, because 940 00:55:21,150 --> 00:55:25,770 it's already known? How's it going to endanger anybody? And 941 00:55:25,770 --> 00:55:28,020 by the way, the idea of in danger of this report, 942 00:55:28,020 --> 00:55:32,250 endangering you, and me and everybody in the United States 943 00:55:32,250 --> 00:55:36,990 and even people overseas is nonsense. Nobody's endangered. 944 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,900 who's reading this stuff that only people that listen to our 945 00:55:39,900 --> 00:55:43,650 news media that this is all a huge smokescreen, the people 946 00:55:43,650 --> 00:55:47,460 that are putting it out there are not to be trusted, ever. 947 00:55:47,490 --> 00:55:51,420 Mickey. Mickey always does my kind of my fieldwork. And she 948 00:55:51,420 --> 00:55:54,060 came home yesterday. And she's been out and about and she'd 949 00:55:54,060 --> 00:55:57,060 been listening to NPR and you know, she she's very good at 950 00:55:57,630 --> 00:56:02,220 getting a feel. She says, this country doesn't care. No, the 951 00:56:02,220 --> 00:56:08,070 Americans don't care if we tortured or not. And I think 952 00:56:08,070 --> 00:56:11,490 that is that's this is. This is just the overlooked 953 00:56:11,490 --> 00:56:12,510 fact. Yeah, 954 00:56:12,540 --> 00:56:16,260 we really, really don't care. What am I getting for Christmas, 955 00:56:16,260 --> 00:56:21,660 mommy, this is the these are the important things. When people 956 00:56:21,660 --> 00:56:24,540 just they do not care. This is all positioning. 957 00:56:25,530 --> 00:56:28,470 Oh, it's the preventives international indictments. Yes, 958 00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:29,970 that's part of the cover stuff. 959 00:56:30,180 --> 00:56:32,430 So they can go on vacation. These a bunch of guys who want 960 00:56:32,430 --> 00:56:35,790 to go on vacation to Wyoming when they're I want to go on 961 00:56:35,790 --> 00:56:39,420 vacation. This is the dope place. This is really what it's 962 00:56:39,420 --> 00:56:43,980 all about. To get out of here. Things I want to bring up one. 963 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:49,170 Poland, What a travesty that Poland who immediately says 964 00:56:49,170 --> 00:56:53,520 yeah, we had we had black sides. give these people the 965 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,850 opportunity to be in the Visa Waiver Program. Will you already 966 00:56:56,850 --> 00:56:57,810 come on? 967 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,740 You're right that is that's bull crap, man. He's amazing bull 968 00:57:01,740 --> 00:57:02,130 crap. 969 00:57:02,490 --> 00:57:05,730 What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? These people are 970 00:57:05,730 --> 00:57:08,700 our friends. They're NATO members, let them come in and 971 00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:12,510 visit when they feel like it. If you look at the the spending 972 00:57:12,510 --> 00:57:18,150 bill, the defense part, which is more than half of it, Poland's 973 00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:21,090 all kinds of stuff. But if we're going to help Poland buy more of 974 00:57:21,090 --> 00:57:24,300 our war material, more polish stuff, come on, put these people 975 00:57:24,300 --> 00:57:28,140 in already, and then the which I haven't hasn't really been 976 00:57:28,140 --> 00:57:33,990 brought up. Although Don mentioned this, and I corrected 977 00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:36,750 him, but he hasn't responded to that. I'm sure there's a reason. 978 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,520 He says you know, he's he's flabbergasted and disappointed 979 00:57:41,730 --> 00:57:47,610 that nobody in CIA had blown the whistle on these practices. And 980 00:57:47,610 --> 00:57:51,870 I said, well, in fact, the only guy so far as I know who did say 981 00:57:51,870 --> 00:57:56,520 something about it to the press, John Kiriakou is in jail for it. 982 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,560 And he's a former case officer, an analyst, right and he leaked 983 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:07,890 this information about the about torture to the press. And they 984 00:58:07,890 --> 00:58:11,730 threw him in jail. I haven't heard anyone talk about him. 985 00:58:11,790 --> 00:58:16,530 I haven't heard anything about that. But it should be mentioned 986 00:58:16,530 --> 00:58:20,100 probably in the report. I'm guessing because I haven't seen 987 00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:23,340 his name in the report. No, no in that 500 You haven't read the 988 00:58:23,340 --> 00:58:26,490 500 page report I've read Yeah, I read the report that they 989 00:58:26,490 --> 00:58:31,620 released. You read all 500 pages course went in two days? Yes. 990 00:58:32,220 --> 00:58:34,620 I haven't slept Look at me. I'm a mess. 991 00:58:36,090 --> 00:58:38,400 Well, the talking points they extracted from that report are 992 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,130 the ones that that's all you're going to hear about because the 993 00:58:41,130 --> 00:58:43,560 only chance that he was going to mention that guy would be Chris 994 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,190 Hayes. And he was too busy excoriating everybody 995 00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:51,810 essentially on his show and then now of course it's mostly been 996 00:58:51,810 --> 00:58:57,660 dropped the whole topic is dropped right so now we can play 997 00:58:57,660 --> 00:59:01,410 another couple clips and then I get freaking wrapped a lot a lot 998 00:59:01,410 --> 00:59:01,650 of 999 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,380 things may change by the time people hear the show we have a 1000 00:59:04,380 --> 00:59:07,950 Brennan is is going to do a news conference 1001 00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:12,870 well I'm sure it's gonna be the same talking points in America 1002 00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:16,650 there was it was it was careless to release the report because 1003 00:59:16,650 --> 00:59:20,910 Americans lives are at risk we know that we did the said the 1004 00:59:20,910 --> 00:59:23,790 other one another class it was we know Yeah, we know we did 1005 00:59:23,790 --> 00:59:27,900 this but that was so long ago that was the bush Cheney regime 1006 00:59:27,900 --> 00:59:31,650 were different. Long ago we stopped doing different now. 1007 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,120 Come on, we've learned 1008 00:59:33,959 --> 00:59:37,709 and there's a you know, anytime you hear any of that, it's like 1009 00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:39,539 bull crap. 1010 00:59:39,570 --> 00:59:40,680 What do you guys talking about? 1011 00:59:40,980 --> 00:59:44,790 I like the way Tori that I have a Tory clip Touray Touray 1012 00:59:44,910 --> 00:59:49,080 whatever you call him obviously compromised, twisting the 1013 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,870 arguments so that you tell he's not compromised. He's just dumb. 1014 00:59:52,380 --> 00:59:57,690 is injured. He's compromised. You take the art you taken twist 1015 00:59:57,690 --> 01:00:01,830 or you give somebody a this is a question is Some mean late in 1016 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,860 talking point question, you throw it to somebody and then 1017 01:00:04,860 --> 01:00:08,460 they they take it and they they turn it to something else as the 1018 01:00:08,460 --> 01:00:11,580 oh, you know, you asked me a question I say, well, that's not 1019 01:00:11,580 --> 01:00:14,940 the question you should be central point is, yeah, any 1020 01:00:14,940 --> 01:00:16,830 there's a million ways of doing this. This one's a little 1021 01:00:16,830 --> 01:00:19,620 different. And I thought it was interesting. So Tori twisting 1022 01:00:19,650 --> 01:00:23,310 deed, everyone on Capitol Hill is queasy about this entire 1023 01:00:23,310 --> 01:00:27,420 issue. For many reasons. This is all about the CIA and what the 1024 01:00:27,420 --> 01:00:32,370 CIA did, but they are not alone in this leaders in Congress, and 1025 01:00:32,370 --> 01:00:38,460 both houses were briefed 17 times from 2002 to 2005. They 1026 01:00:38,460 --> 01:00:44,100 knew and this report talks about the CIA lying or not concealing 1027 01:00:44,130 --> 01:00:47,610 evidence to Congress, but surely, a lot of folks on the 1028 01:00:47,610 --> 01:00:51,270 Hill knew what was going on. Should they also be held 1029 01:00:51,270 --> 01:00:52,470 responsible here? 1030 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,700 I think so. Yes. I mean, looking at the members, a lot of the 1031 01:00:56,700 --> 01:00:58,620 members will say, Well, look, we were sworn to secrecy weren't 1032 01:00:58,620 --> 01:01:00,810 allowed to say something. The problem with that argument is 1033 01:01:00,810 --> 01:01:03,240 that in fact, they do have a mechanism to say something if 1034 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,180 they believe that what was that they were being told was 1035 01:01:06,180 --> 01:01:08,700 egregious enough, they could have just gone to the House or 1036 01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:11,820 Senate floor and talked about it. They are given immunity from 1037 01:01:11,820 --> 01:01:14,250 prosecution if they're on the Senate or House floor. 1038 01:01:15,570 --> 01:01:18,660 Well, now, if you are a senator, and you heard something that you 1039 01:01:18,660 --> 01:01:20,970 don't like in the in the thing, and you decide to blow the 1040 01:01:20,970 --> 01:01:23,550 whistle on it by going to the House or Senate floor, because 1041 01:01:23,550 --> 01:01:25,890 you're immune, you're not on that committee anymore, you're 1042 01:01:25,890 --> 01:01:27,960 off, you're out kicked out of the committee, and you're 1043 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,500 probably blacklisted from a lot of stuff. Because you can't keep 1044 01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:33,330 your mouth shut in committee. You're supposed to keep your 1045 01:01:33,330 --> 01:01:36,330 mouth shut. So that's bull crap. I get kneecapped. That's a 1046 01:01:36,330 --> 01:01:39,990 complete bull crap, not thing. But the thing, the meme that was 1047 01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:42,540 in there, and I've heard it a number of times is this is the 1048 01:01:42,540 --> 01:01:46,830 bull crap that they were they all knew, when Wilkerson makes 1049 01:01:46,830 --> 01:01:49,920 it very clear that they didn't know they were lied to. 1050 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,550 Constantly lied to. So they didn't know. So that oh, they 1051 01:01:53,550 --> 01:01:57,000 were brief. They knew they were brief. They knew no, they didn't 1052 01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,240 know. And it's obvious they didn't know. And that's one of 1053 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,750 the reasons that Feinstein got so upset, because she was being 1054 01:02:03,750 --> 01:02:06,900 lied to. And she didn't expect being spied on. She thought that 1055 01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:10,830 Oh, everybody's telling me the truth. She was a stooge for the 1056 01:02:10,830 --> 01:02:14,790 agencies all the time. And during our show within 1057 01:02:14,820 --> 01:02:18,570 Lionsgate, two or three years ago, she was a stooge, just like 1058 01:02:18,570 --> 01:02:22,800 that. The Rogers character. And by the way, the new guy taking 1059 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:28,260 over Feinstein spot is worse than Roger Federer. Yeah, he's 1060 01:02:28,260 --> 01:02:29,400 worse than Rogers. 1061 01:02:29,490 --> 01:02:32,550 Yeah, we looked him up. The guy is all in total Military 1062 01:02:32,550 --> 01:02:37,890 Industrial Complex. He's got a ship on his homepage. Like ship 1063 01:02:37,890 --> 01:02:40,500 and we know this going to be built all the ships, we got all 1064 01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:41,940 the money's all here. It's really good. 1065 01:02:41,970 --> 01:02:44,250 Here's the other one. This is the one where I'm sorry, this is 1066 01:02:44,250 --> 01:02:47,490 this clip is the switcheroo. And the subtle threatened by the 1067 01:02:47,490 --> 01:02:51,600 way, I believe when Touray said that about he that was a threat. 1068 01:02:52,590 --> 01:02:55,890 Oh, yes, these guys knew. And if they they should be in jail, 1069 01:02:55,890 --> 01:03:00,330 too. That was a threat. Threat of the senators. Interesting. 1070 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,750 Yeah. So the total threat. And this one, here's a little more 1071 01:03:03,750 --> 01:03:04,620 subtle threat 1072 01:03:04,650 --> 01:03:07,110 messages and cables back saying not only is it's not working, 1073 01:03:07,110 --> 01:03:09,960 it's disgusting and said some CIA officials moved to tears 1074 01:03:10,050 --> 01:03:12,390 watching the process from their own accounts as their language. 1075 01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:15,060 It's not Dianne Feinstein's language. I got to think it 1076 01:03:15,060 --> 01:03:17,370 takes a lot to move a CIA operative to tears. 1077 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:21,210 Well, it does. And like I said, You're responsible for carrying 1078 01:03:21,210 --> 01:03:23,580 out orders and instructions unless they're immoral or 1079 01:03:23,580 --> 01:03:27,060 illegal. And I think at a higher level, also, if they're stupid, 1080 01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:31,680 I mean, if your ranking guide the chain of command, but that 1081 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,820 still doesn't dismiss, it still doesn't reduce the stupidity of 1082 01:03:35,820 --> 01:03:38,640 releasing the report in the first place. I think it's, I 1083 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,460 think it's a political move. And if you like I said, you run the 1084 01:03:41,460 --> 01:03:44,820 tape forward five years, are the people who were involved in 1085 01:03:44,820 --> 01:03:49,740 producing this report? Are they then at risk? The people who are 1086 01:03:49,740 --> 01:03:53,160 responsible for doing other things, which future 1087 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,520 administration you might find distasteful? Are they now at 1088 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,370 rest? Yeah, that's extremely, it's an extremely dangerous 1089 01:03:59,370 --> 01:03:59,910 thing to do. 1090 01:04:00,870 --> 01:04:03,330 And we're about out of time, I understand the concern. We're 1091 01:04:03,330 --> 01:04:05,340 gonna hear from you again, and it goes to the question we asked 1092 01:04:05,340 --> 01:04:07,470 earlier in the show, how do you say we're never going to do this 1093 01:04:07,470 --> 01:04:10,320 again, if you don't have any transparency or accountability, 1094 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,650 but too much transparency, as we know can be a risk for folks who 1095 01:04:13,650 --> 01:04:16,350 are out there. Colonel Jack Jacobs, thanks for your time. 1096 01:04:16,530 --> 01:04:18,930 The only thing the one thing that I haven't I'm sorry, go 1097 01:04:18,930 --> 01:04:19,620 ahead. Well, I was gonna 1098 01:04:19,620 --> 01:04:23,490 say that what he's talking about and it was brought up on Hannity 1099 01:04:23,490 --> 01:04:27,420 was Rodriguez and some other people the threat is, well, if 1100 01:04:27,420 --> 01:04:30,360 you're going to do that to us, then we're going to do it to you 1101 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,600 with the drones that you all approved. Right. Everybody 1102 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,720 approved of the drone program. That's and Feinstein is one of 1103 01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:37,350 them. That's part 1104 01:04:37,350 --> 01:04:40,740 of it. The angle we haven't really discussed with this. This 1105 01:04:40,740 --> 01:04:45,720 touches on it. We have this feud. But we have the feuds we 1106 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,170 know there's a inter governmental feud as CIA 1107 01:04:49,170 --> 01:04:54,780 certainly NSA. We know that that that we know firsthand CIA does 1108 01:04:54,780 --> 01:04:59,190 not like NSA is crypto, weenie boy. Collect everything. Screw 1109 01:04:59,190 --> 01:05:05,850 everybody else. methodology. A CIA agent, working for a 1110 01:05:05,850 --> 01:05:12,090 contractor, as a contractor for NSA outed NSA. This is Snowden. 1111 01:05:12,510 --> 01:05:16,320 We know that CIA feels this guy and Snowden did it, you know, 1112 01:05:16,350 --> 01:05:23,370 hey, valor for him. This is a form of retaliation. No, the 1113 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:28,980 retaliation is in here and at a meta level. If the government 1114 01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:33,930 what if in 20 years, we really find out that everybody was 1115 01:05:33,930 --> 01:05:36,660 spying on everybody, this is this. I think this is what's 1116 01:05:36,660 --> 01:05:40,830 happening. We find out. Well, we have some we have some some 1117 01:05:40,830 --> 01:05:44,970 actual proof. Everybody was spying on everybody. There's 16, 1118 01:05:45,030 --> 01:05:47,550 I think 16 different intelligence organizations in 1119 01:05:47,550 --> 01:05:51,300 the intelligence community. And then, 1120 01:05:52,170 --> 01:05:55,110 and then there's the contractors. Yeah. Millions 1121 01:05:55,110 --> 01:05:57,090 chose to joggers, where they came up to 1122 01:05:57,930 --> 01:06:01,830 play just random joggers that happens every day. And 1123 01:06:01,830 --> 01:06:03,900 with an agency, they could have been with one of the 1124 01:06:03,900 --> 01:06:07,410 contractors, they could have been lucky. They could have 1125 01:06:07,410 --> 01:06:11,280 answered that's what his wife was. Yeah, of course. Never 1126 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:11,760 forget. 1127 01:06:13,140 --> 01:06:18,450 She saw the silence or slip out from the jogging suit. This is, 1128 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:23,070 this is this is what's really, truly sad is we have gotten to 1129 01:06:23,070 --> 01:06:26,820 this point, and thanks to 911 and the obviously we we can all 1130 01:06:27,570 --> 01:06:32,520 look at how that came to be and is just one great coincidence. 1131 01:06:33,390 --> 01:06:35,220 Regardless are are 1132 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,310 there's plenty of evidence to suggest that we were headed this 1133 01:06:38,310 --> 01:06:40,350 way long before 911. Was that just sped 1134 01:06:40,350 --> 01:06:43,500 up that you just need a tipping point? You just and the real do 1135 01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:43,770 what 1136 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:49,110 what to me? is the key to this is the money. Just too much 1137 01:06:49,110 --> 01:06:52,980 money? Yes, that's being blown on this crap. Yes. 1138 01:06:53,009 --> 01:06:57,569 And that is why I believe the timing is so good. If you look 1139 01:06:57,569 --> 01:07:02,309 at what money is being it, I'll just read you one line from 1140 01:07:02,369 --> 01:07:05,579 this, this bill that was passed the spending bill appropriations 1141 01:07:05,579 --> 01:07:09,059 bill, what the way that works, they throw a whole bunch of 1142 01:07:09,059 --> 01:07:12,779 things into it, including the NDAA, the National Defense 1143 01:07:12,779 --> 01:07:16,979 Authorization Act, which is all of this stuff we need to pay 1144 01:07:16,979 --> 01:07:22,859 for. And so, I I looked at not only the this $1.1 trillion 1145 01:07:23,159 --> 01:07:25,739 bill, but also at the Authorization Act that was 1146 01:07:25,739 --> 01:07:31,109 folded into it. And one of the key phrases of this is buying 1147 01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:36,629 back the sequestration. So this is all about the money. It of 1148 01:07:36,629 --> 01:07:40,199 course it is it is purely a financing bill, but to have this 1149 01:07:40,199 --> 01:07:43,709 come out and obfuscate the news cycle while all these things are 1150 01:07:43,709 --> 01:07:48,509 happening in the background. You know that that coincidence to me 1151 01:07:48,509 --> 01:07:51,329 is just too obvious. You know, special ops and terrorism are 1152 01:07:51,329 --> 01:07:56,129 getting a lot here in in a lot of money. 1153 01:07:58,020 --> 01:08:03,360 This is all money wasted. Yeah, yeah. of taxpayer money is 1154 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:07,080 astonishing how much taxpayer money we have just to waste, but 1155 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,690 we do it. Well, of course, a lot of is loaned. I mean, we borrow 1156 01:08:09,690 --> 01:08:12,990 money to the tune of 14, I think, really 14 trillion, 1157 01:08:13,170 --> 01:08:17,640 but 17 1717 cents, how much of that you got. 1158 01:08:18,990 --> 01:08:20,880 I don't get don't get any of it. 1159 01:08:21,990 --> 01:08:26,790 I'd like to thank a few people. But before that I I'd like to if 1160 01:08:26,790 --> 01:08:29,340 you're done, I'd like to wrap this segment up with some 1161 01:08:29,580 --> 01:08:33,630 I've got one or two more things. Ancillary, they're ancillary. 1162 01:08:33,870 --> 01:08:35,190 I'd rather do them after the break. 1163 01:08:35,190 --> 01:08:37,920 But then I'd like to wrap up this portion with some wise 1164 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:42,900 words from our president, who has now resorted to quoting 1165 01:08:42,900 --> 01:08:45,540 scripture at least what he thinks is in Scripture. 1166 01:08:47,010 --> 01:08:48,270 We have Oh, you're kidding me. 1167 01:08:49,890 --> 01:08:54,000 No, I'm not kidding. You have this one. But what he is trying 1168 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:59,970 to say is, you know, hey, maybe we need to clear clean up our 1169 01:08:59,970 --> 01:09:03,210 own house and not be so judgmental of everybody else 1170 01:09:03,210 --> 01:09:07,800 around the world who are doing horrible things. This is his 1171 01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:11,460 main message and he he's going to not only misquote scripture I 1172 01:09:11,460 --> 01:09:15,300 don't think this is in scripture and it up soon enough and he 1173 01:09:15,300 --> 01:09:16,590 doesn't even do it well 1174 01:09:16,620 --> 01:09:22,830 and I think yeah, good book says you know don't don't throw 1175 01:09:23,340 --> 01:09:27,300 stones and glass houses or make sure we're looking at the log in 1176 01:09:27,300 --> 01:09:30,450 our eye but before we're pointing out the moat and other 1177 01:09:30,450 --> 01:09:32,670 folks eyes they may think go boom 1178 01:09:36,210 --> 01:09:40,110 is a don't throw a stone in a glass house which I think means 1179 01:09:40,110 --> 01:09:46,050 people in glass houses shouldn't cast the first stone Are you 1180 01:09:46,050 --> 01:09:46,350 okay? Yeah 1181 01:09:46,350 --> 01:09:47,430 the sun like that. Yeah, 1182 01:09:47,460 --> 01:09:49,500 I don't believe that is from the good book. 1183 01:09:49,530 --> 01:09:50,640 I don't know that it is 1184 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:55,320 either. I don't think that scripture there and and look at 1185 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,100 the split the log in our own right. The moat of others, I 1186 01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:02,190 thought was the splinter. in your own eye the log in the log 1187 01:10:02,190 --> 01:10:06,870 in our own I don't know, but it didn't sound right. No, it was 1188 01:10:06,930 --> 01:10:11,190 unscripted and therefore unworthy. 1189 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,070 Yeah, he's short timer. All right. 1190 01:10:17,130 --> 01:10:19,890 And with that, I of course would like to thank you for your 1191 01:10:19,890 --> 01:10:24,570 courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak 1192 01:10:24,630 --> 01:10:26,610 in the morning to do Adam curry in the morning all ships and sea 1193 01:10:26,610 --> 01:10:28,560 boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water all the 1194 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:29,490 games and nights out there 1195 01:10:29,820 --> 01:10:32,850 in the morning to our human resources in the chat room, no 1196 01:10:32,850 --> 01:10:37,800 agenda stream.com or agenda, reading people. We have all 1197 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:42,990 kinds of different versions of that scripture. In the chat 1198 01:10:42,990 --> 01:10:46,500 room. Thank you to our artists of the Nika rad came back strong 1199 01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:52,650 with the art for a 676. And it was good. It's good to see a 1200 01:10:52,650 --> 01:10:56,010 whole bunch of new art coming in. I don't know if it's because 1201 01:10:56,010 --> 01:10:59,850 we talked about it. Or if change was made if some of the bugs are 1202 01:10:59,850 --> 01:11:02,970 ironed out, but I personally was appreciative of seeing so much 1203 01:11:02,970 --> 01:11:07,830 art, no agenda art generator.com please check that out. And if 1204 01:11:07,830 --> 01:11:11,970 you if you feel so compelled, contribute. It's a big deal. It 1205 01:11:11,970 --> 01:11:18,060 really helps. Really helps the show and keeps us being noticed 1206 01:11:18,060 --> 01:11:20,700 in in the lineup of shows that people can choose from. 1207 01:11:21,450 --> 01:11:27,300 Yeah. I'm very disappointed in myself here. Because they seem 1208 01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:28,080 to have lost Paul 1209 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,860 Pierce's note. Roy, maybe it's ROI peers. Yeah, 1210 01:11:31,860 --> 01:11:35,940 I'm sorry holes and other peers. Yeah, ROI peers, impose a 1211 01:11:35,940 --> 01:11:39,600 basketball player. Let's thank a few people who contributed to 1212 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:47,430 show 677 including Shawn Aloka 34567 from Slovakia. Hey, as an 1213 01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:51,090 expert because he's an expat ex expat married to a wonderful 1214 01:11:51,090 --> 01:11:55,080 Slovak wife whom, who I'm still trying to hit in the mouth. She 1215 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,590 doesn't listen to that easy but asked about the show after I do 1216 01:11:58,590 --> 01:12:00,930 and I'm halfway there. I'm sending you one of John's 1217 01:12:00,930 --> 01:12:04,350 favorite donations. 34567 is a birthday gift to myself. I'm 47 1218 01:12:04,350 --> 01:12:07,020 today, this donation puts me over halfway to knighthood. I'd 1219 01:12:07,020 --> 01:12:14,790 like to be sir boom. Shawn Aloka Okay, Shawn Shakalaka Slovakia. 1220 01:12:15,210 --> 01:12:19,680 Boom. Sean so lucky shaka laka All right. We'll do that. I will 1221 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,550 remember that when you remind us. Yeah, every time I hear 1222 01:12:23,550 --> 01:12:27,900 boom, Shakalaka jingle makes me think I need to donate. And this 1223 01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:30,270 is interesting. Yes, I think so. I didn't 1224 01:12:30,270 --> 01:12:32,970 know that was why is that a trigger? It's a good one. When 1225 01:12:32,970 --> 01:12:35,640 you hear Boom shakalaka you think oh, Donate. 1226 01:12:35,850 --> 01:12:39,060 Donate. Bucha you should have played donate and been some you 1227 01:12:39,060 --> 01:12:42,120 know some low note. How about Charlize 1228 01:12:42,570 --> 01:12:50,520 devorah.org/donate 1229 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,070 i What does he want here? 1230 01:12:53,220 --> 01:12:57,030 I need to donate. Anyway since I think supporting the bill hold 1231 01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:59,520 up my end of the year value for value model encourage others to 1232 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,830 do their part as well. Thank you for providing the listeners the 1233 01:13:01,830 --> 01:13:04,200 best deconstruction in the news as well as providing some great 1234 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,350 comedy and tech analysis as a bonus. Keep up the great work 1235 01:13:07,830 --> 01:13:10,800 like some job karma from my wife she works so I can stay home and 1236 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,830 take care of the cat and be an amateur photographer and I 1237 01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:17,610 really want to keep it that way. Okay, thank you some of my 1238 01:13:17,610 --> 01:13:21,210 photos we go to those and kind of get a Boom shakalaka mac and 1239 01:13:21,210 --> 01:13:22,200 cheese montage 1240 01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:27,390 your slaves get the mac and 1241 01:13:28,890 --> 01:13:33,180 cheese macaroni and cheese shatter melted together mac and 1242 01:13:33,180 --> 01:13:35,250 cheese mac and cheese mac and cheese. 1243 01:13:37,140 --> 01:13:43,050 Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese by iron Rand. You've got karma. 1244 01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:45,690 You didn't do your little sound effect. 1245 01:13:49,410 --> 01:13:53,010 Roy Pierce who sent us a note I believe from Fort Pierce, 1246 01:13:53,010 --> 01:13:57,390 Florida three to $34 he and there was a note attached to Roy 1247 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,080 you know what to do send me an email John divorce.org which you 1248 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,020 know next time because I don't know I'm looking looking 1249 01:14:04,020 --> 01:14:06,690 looking. I just can't find out on why it was in the pile of 1250 01:14:06,690 --> 01:14:12,240 notes. I thought if I find it by the halfway point, we'll all 1251 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:16,530 read it later. I don't think I will. Eric Hall Britta in South 1252 01:14:16,530 --> 01:14:20,700 Ogden, Utah. Please accept my oh just give a Roy Pierce of karma 1253 01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:25,680 of course happy to happy to comply. You've got karma. 1254 01:14:27,870 --> 01:14:33,510 Eric Hall Britta and South Ogden, Utah $250. i Please 1255 01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:36,450 accept my meager donation more to come as I continue the cord 1256 01:14:36,450 --> 01:14:39,630 cutting and move to paying value for value. Thanks for your 1257 01:14:39,630 --> 01:14:46,710 service. And I believe this is our last donor. Yes, 1258 01:14:47,610 --> 01:14:49,950 fortunately. Wow. Yeah, 1259 01:14:50,010 --> 01:14:50,670 really, 1260 01:14:50,700 --> 01:14:56,040 Sir Mark Wilson to Baronet of Glasgow 200. Short and Sweet. 1261 01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,440 Thanks for everything you do. Please give me an LG why karma 1262 01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:06,690 shot. Regard sir. Mark Wilson Baronet of Glasgow ready. You've 1263 01:15:06,690 --> 01:15:11,130 got karma. That's it. Yeah, we didn't get a lot, for some 1264 01:15:11,130 --> 01:15:14,700 reason. And I was very disappointed. We expect to show 1265 01:15:14,700 --> 01:15:16,860 coming up on Sunday. So it's shorter week and it's going to 1266 01:15:16,860 --> 01:15:20,640 be hard to get numbers back to where they should be about is 1267 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,600 less than last year for this particular show. And more remind 1268 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:29,460 people to go to divorce that org slash N A and divorced dad. The 1269 01:15:29,460 --> 01:15:33,120 verb sorry, channel right.com/and. A no agenda 1270 01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:34,140 show.com And no agenda. 1271 01:15:34,260 --> 01:15:37,020 Has anyone ever go to channel the word.com? Did you ever look 1272 01:15:37,020 --> 01:15:38,550 at numbers? And does anyone do that? 1273 01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:41,460 Eric would look at the numbers very rarely because there's no 1274 01:15:41,460 --> 01:15:45,480 reason to unless the divorce.org/and A is down and 1275 01:15:45,480 --> 01:15:47,910 it's only been in the last year it hasn't been down I think but 1276 01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:51,330 once and it was for a short period. 1277 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,610 About just got a message in Adam where did the no agenda chat 1278 01:15:56,610 --> 01:16:02,280 room goto you need to pay 50 cents to access the chat room 1279 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:07,590 now with the PayPal hack the chat room what was going on? 1280 01:16:07,590 --> 01:16:11,310 Well, that's a 50 says it's I think it's a good idea. I just 1281 01:16:11,310 --> 01:16:14,340 don't know how to 30 cents. 1282 01:16:14,910 --> 01:16:17,550 The problem is with Pay Pal, you only get 20 cents of it. 1283 01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:21,720 Exactly. Getting that keeps him Which reminds me I did get a 1284 01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:25,200 check somebody I guess you know, says I'm going to you know, we 1285 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,200 had a debate about this Eric and I Eric to shill about whether I 1286 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:32,160 should mention this guy's name. But I decided not to. But this 1287 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:36,150 guy has. I think he probably I don't believe this is that funny 1288 01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:40,890 that people do this. But this guy who is living in Tennessee 1289 01:16:42,060 --> 01:16:45,510 looks like he's in Flint, Michigan, and may even know who 1290 01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:50,430 this is. But he's going through his bank to send us a check for 1291 01:16:50,430 --> 01:16:55,590 nine cents. No dollars and nine cents now. It's hilarious. But 1292 01:16:55,590 --> 01:16:58,140 you know, we're trying to I think it's kind of cheesy 1293 01:16:58,140 --> 01:17:01,410 because the bank has to spend 50 cents to mail the nine cent 1294 01:17:01,410 --> 01:17:04,530 check, or the nine cents. I just think it's kind of you know, 1295 01:17:04,530 --> 01:17:08,430 it's fine. Hohoho great gag. But it's kind of chicken shit. And I 1296 01:17:08,460 --> 01:17:09,450 don't encourage it. 1297 01:17:09,450 --> 01:17:12,630 Yeah, we are trying to do some work here. 1298 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:18,060 Yeah, and it's, you know, the nine cent check in a frame. I 1299 01:17:18,060 --> 01:17:19,650 don't know what I'm gonna do with it. Okay, so 1300 01:17:19,650 --> 01:17:22,680 it came in? Yeah. Can I get a call from the bank the other day 1301 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,930 about some wire transfer? Did you get a call about that? 1302 01:17:25,140 --> 01:17:27,660 When they call you? Oh, yeah, you're under? Yeah, they did. I 1303 01:17:27,660 --> 01:17:29,790 just told him to put it in. That's our wire transfer from 1304 01:17:29,790 --> 01:17:31,890 the guy we just needed. Ah, right. 1305 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:34,560 Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, I 1306 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,950 was saying. He said it was gonna come in. I pushed it into the 1307 01:17:37,950 --> 01:17:41,220 last show. Okay, gotcha is for was 1308 01:17:42,660 --> 01:17:47,220 Sergi cue, I think. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, 1309 01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,670 I don't know what they were so concerned about this. Oh, I know 1310 01:17:50,670 --> 01:17:57,780 why. This bank manager told me he had sent it to himself as the 1311 01:17:57,780 --> 01:18:01,890 recipt Oh, I see. Okay, but it was going into our account. And 1312 01:18:01,890 --> 01:18:04,230 he asked me, Why should we're supposed to what am I supposed 1313 01:18:04,230 --> 01:18:06,780 to do here and I said, we'll just put it in. It's uh, he just 1314 01:18:06,780 --> 01:18:09,750 didn't, somebody fouled up the how to do it, because they had 1315 01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:13,170 the right account number. I got crazy details. And so they went 1316 01:18:13,170 --> 01:18:13,440 in. 1317 01:18:14,370 --> 01:18:17,430 Thank you to our executive producers here and Associate 1318 01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:21,720 Executive producers to and to that to be precise. These, of 1319 01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,330 course, are real credits, you can put them anywhere, they seem 1320 01:18:24,330 --> 01:18:26,610 to work very well on LinkedIn profiles get you a lot of 1321 01:18:26,610 --> 01:18:29,520 attention, but you can put them anywhere, or you can actually 1322 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,670 just show them flash them. Wherever credits are accepted. 1323 01:18:32,670 --> 01:18:35,340 And unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we will gladly vouch 1324 01:18:35,340 --> 01:18:35,820 for you 1325 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,720 to vorak.org/n A and 1326 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,540 of course, we always need your ultimate help going out there 1327 01:18:42,900 --> 01:18:44,130 and propagating the formula. 1328 01:18:44,490 --> 01:18:49,200 Our formula is this, we go out, we get people in the mouth. 1329 01:19:02,970 --> 01:19:05,400 Like to recommend people get a couple of credits, and they can 1330 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,770 flash your pair. There you go. 1331 01:19:08,820 --> 01:19:12,180 I want to talk about this spending bill for a moment or 1332 01:19:12,210 --> 01:19:12,660 Well, let 1333 01:19:12,660 --> 01:19:15,030 me finish my list here. And there's a couple of things I 1334 01:19:15,030 --> 01:19:19,560 wanted to talk about. One of the things that's going on that I 1335 01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:25,380 think may be a few skated by the by this event of the release of 1336 01:19:25,380 --> 01:19:28,290 the report is this major event that I want to talk about a 1337 01:19:28,290 --> 01:19:32,250 release of a report and it's going to put risk lives at risk. 1338 01:19:32,550 --> 01:19:35,550 And there's no reason for an all the rest, play the Abbaye clip 1339 01:19:35,550 --> 01:19:38,340 now this is a clip to me, which is similar to what we've already 1340 01:19:38,370 --> 01:19:42,780 analyzed with South Korea but played RB and what's going on in 1341 01:19:42,780 --> 01:19:45,360 Japan, which I think is much more important than anything to 1342 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,340 do with the old reports 1343 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:52,020 and I'm at what ABA is calling a changing security environment. 1344 01:19:52,440 --> 01:19:58,650 his Cabinet approved a landmark change in policy. In July, they 1345 01:19:58,650 --> 01:20:02,820 decided to re interpret the Constitution to enable the 1346 01:20:02,820 --> 01:20:08,730 country to use the right to collective self defense. It 1347 01:20:08,730 --> 01:20:13,020 allows Japan to defend a closely related country under attack, 1348 01:20:13,290 --> 01:20:17,310 like this scenario where Japan's Maritime Self Defense Force 1349 01:20:17,310 --> 01:20:26,070 ships defend a US naval vessel. Past dealers interpreted the 1350 01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:30,930 constitution to mean Japan cannot take such actions. But 1351 01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:34,590 our best says the country must change course 1352 01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,950 bandhan Sukhothai 1353 01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:42,960 making all possible preparations will in itself serve as the 1354 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:49,260 power to thwart attempts to wage war on Japan. This is deterrence 1355 01:20:52,830 --> 01:20:53,370 Okay, 1356 01:20:53,580 --> 01:20:55,800 does anybody find this a little disturbing? 1357 01:20:55,980 --> 01:20:59,580 Well Well there's two there's two things one we already knew 1358 01:20:59,580 --> 01:21:02,040 that the Constitution was being changed so they they could 1359 01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:05,370 defend themselves and we're all over that and in fact while that 1360 01:21:05,370 --> 01:21:08,850 clip was playing I was looking in the report for the I know 1361 01:21:08,850 --> 01:21:11,070 there's a specific Japan portion 1362 01:21:12,059 --> 01:21:18,479 though in the in the bill yeah figures yeah all idea obviously 1363 01:21:18,509 --> 01:21:21,749 to anyone I'd be I think we everyone should be on board with 1364 01:21:21,749 --> 01:21:27,839 this idea. We need to sell more stuff. Yes. Sell the most of is 1365 01:21:27,839 --> 01:21:32,039 these as bombs and rockets companies they're gonna buy from 1366 01:21:32,039 --> 01:21:33,659 us not the Chinese or the Russians. 1367 01:21:33,870 --> 01:21:39,120 Here is the let me see. No, the funds available title obligate 1368 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,990 architect engineer, Baba Baba. I thought there was something else 1369 01:21:42,990 --> 01:21:46,260 in here. I have to. I have to scan to the bill for a moment. 1370 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:52,260 Yeah, so the idea is that we want Japan obviously to start 1371 01:21:52,260 --> 01:21:55,020 buying their own stuff and you know, we'll be happy to help out 1372 01:21:55,020 --> 01:21:59,460 obviously, when we have rate of overtime pay. This is filled 1373 01:21:59,460 --> 01:22:02,790 with John Hold on a second when you get all this rate of 1374 01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:05,280 overtime pay for Department of the Navy employees performing 1375 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,770 work aboard or dioxide in support of the nuclear aircraft 1376 01:22:07,770 --> 01:22:13,950 carrier forward deployed in Japan. Reaffirming a sense of 1377 01:22:13,950 --> 01:22:17,040 Congress reaffirming security cooperation with Japan and the 1378 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,550 Republic of Korea of two places by the way, who now are going to 1379 01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:25,770 be customers. Korea, South Korea, we are going to stop the 1380 01:22:25,770 --> 01:22:29,280 operational command of their defense we're handing it back to 1381 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:34,110 them. And they we of course want them to pick up that operational 1382 01:22:34,110 --> 01:22:38,970 command and buy our stuff. Our sense of Congress is the sense 1383 01:22:38,970 --> 01:22:41,580 of Congress that increased cooperation on missile defense 1384 01:22:41,580 --> 01:22:43,830 among the United States, Japan and the Republic Republic of 1385 01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:47,130 Korea would enhance the security of allies of the United States 1386 01:22:47,130 --> 01:22:50,340 in Northeast Asia increased the defensive forward base forces of 1387 01:22:50,340 --> 01:22:52,740 the United States and enhanced the protection of the United 1388 01:22:52,740 --> 01:22:56,970 States with regard to threats from the Korean peninsula. So 1389 01:22:56,970 --> 01:22:59,220 the Secretary of Defense shall conduct an assessment to 1390 01:22:59,220 --> 01:23:02,790 identify opportunities for increasing missile defense 1391 01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:09,270 cooperation as code for foreign sales. We the United States, 1392 01:23:09,270 --> 01:23:13,080 Japan, public Korea, evaluate opera options for enhanced short 1393 01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:16,980 range missile rocket and artillery defense capabilities 1394 01:23:17,190 --> 01:23:20,760 to address the threats from the Korean peninsula. This kind of 1395 01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,000 tells you that at least for the next period of that is now being 1396 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:28,770 financed that presumed the bill is going to pass we will see a 1397 01:23:28,770 --> 01:23:33,540 North Korea being very very dangerous and us helping our and 1398 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,500 ourselves and our allies and Japan and the Republic of Korea 1399 01:23:38,130 --> 01:23:41,850 with some sales that's 1400 01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,540 fine. It feels sorry for the North Koreans because there is 1401 01:23:45,810 --> 01:23:50,610 there a punching bag there. They're being vilified as a 1402 01:23:50,610 --> 01:23:51,990 sales mechanism. 1403 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,700 They well isn't it isn't that what the whole Axis of Evil was 1404 01:23:56,700 --> 01:23:57,600 to start with? 1405 01:23:57,930 --> 01:24:02,970 Well, it looks like it in hindsight there's a We're 1406 01:24:02,970 --> 01:24:05,820 selling a lot of statistical advice and Howard warned against 1407 01:24:06,420 --> 01:24:08,670 Oh yeah. 1408 01:24:10,170 --> 01:24:14,400 We play that you talk about it no one cares. Nobody cares. The 1409 01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:15,990 rundown of all of the 1410 01:24:16,020 --> 01:24:18,600 the mind will care when all hell breaks loose. 1411 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:23,160 I'm just looking at the billions of dollars for the Japanese 1412 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:30,990 fleet Yokota Air Base it's just so much money going to to 1413 01:24:30,990 --> 01:24:35,670 finance this really the sales it is what it's just it is a sales 1414 01:24:35,670 --> 01:24:39,600 job. This this is the military industrial complex, not just 1415 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:44,280 Eisenhower I'm sorry. That is at its finest its finest our 1416 01:24:44,670 --> 01:24:48,060 finest hour of selling crap to people that don't need it. 1417 01:24:48,090 --> 01:24:50,730 Oh, well, yeah, they will. They don't but they think they do 1418 01:24:50,730 --> 01:24:51,660 because well, it's 1419 01:24:52,230 --> 01:24:54,810 me Yeah. Well, we're that's what how sales works a good sale. I 1420 01:24:54,810 --> 01:24:58,380 mean, you can sell somebody something they actually need and 1421 01:24:58,380 --> 01:25:01,260 want they'll buy it. Yes. And there are people that are in 1422 01:25:01,260 --> 01:25:04,050 active war zones that need to buy stuff because of course, we 1423 01:25:04,050 --> 01:25:06,390 may have created the active war zone or whatever the case isn't. 1424 01:25:06,390 --> 01:25:09,030 It's not much of a sales job. But when you get started in 1425 01:25:09,030 --> 01:25:13,890 during peacetime to get people riled up enough to buy stuff is 1426 01:25:13,890 --> 01:25:16,890 like you have to create a you have to create bullcrap, you 1427 01:25:16,890 --> 01:25:19,020 have to lie to them, and you have to convince them they need 1428 01:25:19,020 --> 01:25:21,870 these these things. And they were valid standing. 1429 01:25:22,980 --> 01:25:27,690 Sadly, yes, we're very good at it. Did you want to make another 1430 01:25:27,690 --> 01:25:28,170 point? 1431 01:25:28,620 --> 01:25:32,040 No, I That's my only point. It's a sad point to make. 1432 01:25:32,250 --> 01:25:35,550 I looked at this. This bill, I think if we 1433 01:25:35,550 --> 01:25:39,540 did something, if we made something other than armaments, 1434 01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,020 there's these current US companies that make these little 1435 01:25:43,050 --> 01:25:46,560 those crazy little vehicles that cost $2 million and have a 1436 01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,100 machine gun on the turret, you know, and they try to sell them 1437 01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:52,950 to the local police departments, these things, these kinds of 1438 01:25:52,950 --> 01:25:56,100 things. This is terrible. It's not doing anyone any good. 1439 01:25:56,220 --> 01:26:00,960 Well, the President and his cronies, and we have talked 1440 01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,420 about it before, but I think we have to revisit it, I'd like to 1441 01:26:03,420 --> 01:26:10,350 do it right now. are trying to change our, our future. So we 1442 01:26:10,350 --> 01:26:16,320 will not just be well, that's probably not true. Trying to at 1443 01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:20,280 least not create soldiers and salespeople of weaponry out of 1444 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:24,780 out of the youth. And we are doing that by celebrating our 1445 01:26:24,780 --> 01:26:25,770 Hour of Code. 1446 01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,460 Hi, and laugh. And I'm Tanya, and we're lucky enough to be 1447 01:26:32,460 --> 01:26:34,860 studying computer science. Hi, I'm Tanya, we think it's 1448 01:26:34,860 --> 01:26:37,590 terrible that 90% of schools don't teach it. We definitely 1449 01:26:37,590 --> 01:26:40,320 didn't offer it at my high school. So we're trying to make 1450 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,200 this video to show that anybody can learn. You want to get 10 1451 01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:47,670 million students to do our code, our code, our code, our code, 1452 01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:54,450 our code, our code. How do you get the sunflower? 1453 01:26:54,809 --> 01:26:58,679 This is so good. Wait for the lines of code, do some 1454 01:26:58,680 --> 01:26:59,850 actions I got it. 1455 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:03,450 And then we'll run it and see what happens 1456 01:27:09,570 --> 01:27:14,910 I wrote this because that you just very awesome. I felt like 1457 01:27:14,940 --> 01:27:17,010 Cody's like FBI hacker. 1458 01:27:18,210 --> 01:27:20,550 A little bit of problem solving a little bit of logic. It's like 1459 01:27:20,550 --> 01:27:23,430 construction programming is a lot easier today. It's 1460 01:27:23,430 --> 01:27:26,010 don't just play on your phone program. 1461 01:27:26,730 --> 01:27:29,310 I just want to get that in. Don't just play on your phone 1462 01:27:29,370 --> 01:27:34,830 program it now I am of course a big advocate of today's kids 1463 01:27:34,830 --> 01:27:39,150 should learn how to set up a web server, email server, some basic 1464 01:27:39,150 --> 01:27:41,940 things, not so sure that programming your phone is 1465 01:27:41,940 --> 01:27:44,520 exactly what we want our kids to do. But the President is all in 1466 01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:49,650 on this as his Hollywood as his Silicon Valley. And here's his 1467 01:27:50,250 --> 01:27:53,730 one minute speech on the Hour of Code. Hi, everybody, everybody. 1468 01:27:54,330 --> 01:27:57,300 Last year, students and teachers across our country celebrated 1469 01:27:57,300 --> 01:28:01,500 Computer Science Education Week with an hour of code. They learn 1470 01:28:01,500 --> 01:28:05,850 new skills, program games and apps and realized that while no 1471 01:28:05,850 --> 01:28:08,760 one is born, a computer scientist becoming a computer 1472 01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:12,720 scientists isn't as scary as it sounds. With hard work and a low 1473 01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:16,410 math and science anyone can do it for this year as computing NO 1474 01:28:16,410 --> 01:28:20,910 to these are all common core competencies. And this is being 1475 01:28:20,910 --> 01:28:24,210 presented as part of Common Core because it's the same people who 1476 01:28:24,210 --> 01:28:25,830 are pushing this or Science 1477 01:28:25,830 --> 01:28:28,500 Education Week, more than 48 million people have already 1478 01:28:28,500 --> 01:28:31,650 signed up. And we're hoping even more of you will get involved. 1479 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,970 Don't just consume things, create things take an hour to 1480 01:28:35,970 --> 01:28:38,670 learn more about the technology that touches every part of our 1481 01:28:38,670 --> 01:28:42,270 lives. It's how you can prepare yourself with the skills you 1482 01:28:42,270 --> 01:28:45,480 need for your future. And it's how you can help prepare our 1483 01:28:45,480 --> 01:28:49,830 country for the future as well. America has always been a nation 1484 01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:51,810 of tinkerers and builders and inventors. 1485 01:28:52,350 --> 01:28:56,640 We Is that true? We're a nation of tinkerers and inventors. 1486 01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:01,740 I think if you go to Ben Franklin, you can you can make 1487 01:29:01,740 --> 01:29:05,130 that assertion and say that he was the first of the 1488 01:29:05,250 --> 01:29:08,070 Tinker Tinker brought the world everything from the light bulb 1489 01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:11,190 and the telephone to the iPad and the internet. Whether you're 1490 01:29:11,190 --> 01:29:14,280 a young man trying his hand at programming for the first time, 1491 01:29:14,340 --> 01:29:16,680 or a young woman who's already hard at work on the next big 1492 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:20,580 thing. We're counting on you, America's young people to keep 1493 01:29:20,580 --> 01:29:23,970 us on the cutting edge. Thanks, everybody. Thank you and happy 1494 01:29:23,970 --> 01:29:24,300 coding. 1495 01:29:24,450 --> 01:29:26,850 Alright. Yeah, some exercise kids 1496 01:29:26,850 --> 01:29:28,410 go to a code.org. I 1497 01:29:28,410 --> 01:29:31,830 just want to review Bill Gates's thing to he's got this no, 1498 01:29:31,860 --> 01:29:36,930 this is all Bill Gates, the Microsoft YouthSpark 1499 01:29:37,740 --> 01:29:40,290 code.org co.org A money 1500 01:29:40,650 --> 01:29:46,650 to about a boot. And of course, it's a nonprofit, of course, 1501 01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:54,960 of course ever not found code.org to o code.org. 1502 01:29:55,530 --> 01:29:59,310 That won't work. So well. Let's look at the leadership. That 1503 01:29:59,310 --> 01:30:05,250 said that CO found Anders This is Hadi Partovi and I think 1504 01:30:05,250 --> 01:30:10,830 these are x something or other guys but the donor list is 1505 01:30:10,830 --> 01:30:16,380 really what I find interesting. Platinum supporters $3 million 1506 01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:22,470 plus contribution. Balmer family giving little picture of a Steve 1507 01:30:22,470 --> 01:30:27,630 Ballmer right there, Google, Microsoft and the Omidyar 1508 01:30:27,630 --> 01:30:31,860 Network. Yeah, I really want to my kids involved with these with 1509 01:30:31,860 --> 01:30:35,940 these outfits. The gold supporters $1 million or more. 1510 01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:42,060 That's Ali Patro V and Hadi. Partovi. I guess these, I guess 1511 01:30:42,060 --> 01:30:44,610 these guys are the the brothers that are married, I'm not sure. 1512 01:30:45,180 --> 01:30:51,270 And they are. They're from. I like link exchange, Myspace 1513 01:30:51,660 --> 01:30:55,020 msn.com. They kind of I guess that Microsoft, Microsoft guys? 1514 01:30:56,250 --> 01:30:59,850 Answer Microsoft. I don't know, Bill Gates, Facebook guys, 1515 01:30:59,850 --> 01:31:06,480 Owner, John and Ann door. John Doerr usual suspects, John 1516 01:31:06,480 --> 01:31:10,440 Doerr. But he would ask me about what he would do up with his his 1517 01:31:10,470 --> 01:31:14,190 how, what, Adam, what's your recommendation? My 16 year old 1518 01:31:14,190 --> 01:31:19,470 daughter is all effed up. What should I do? Code I think, teach 1519 01:31:19,470 --> 01:31:23,370 her how to code. John, that'll help. Sean Parker Foundation, 1520 01:31:23,580 --> 01:31:29,970 Salesforce. Many of the Amazon what do we have here? 1521 01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:32,070 Okay, it was Microsoft. You're right. And yeah, 1522 01:31:32,070 --> 01:31:38,100 see, I told you. This all this is a very, it's, it's really the 1523 01:31:38,100 --> 01:31:43,140 Microsoft side of the world. I don't think this is very good. 1524 01:31:43,170 --> 01:31:48,600 It's not balanced, for sure. And you go to the partners, this is 1525 01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,480 what is what is happening here. And then we've talked about this 1526 01:31:51,480 --> 01:31:55,230 before. This, these people are changing the curriculum. They're 1527 01:31:55,230 --> 01:31:59,430 starting. They're helping public schools go out of existence, 1528 01:31:59,460 --> 01:32:03,270 bringing in charter schools, and they want kids to learn how to 1529 01:32:03,270 --> 01:32:08,430 code so they can be the next cheaper coders. Yeah, cheap 1530 01:32:08,430 --> 01:32:12,720 coders for these companies. And then right at the top, Amazon, 1531 01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:18,330 Apple, Best Buy. We have Electronic Arts, Dropbox, 1532 01:32:18,330 --> 01:32:24,420 Facebook, Google, juniper, con LinkedIn, Rovio, Yahoo, Zappos. 1533 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:31,350 And it's okay, but let's not kid each other about this. And I'm 1534 01:32:31,350 --> 01:32:34,620 getting all these notes from producers of ours who say, hey, 1535 01:32:34,650 --> 01:32:37,950 my kid is now involved in this and that pushing this and this 1536 01:32:37,950 --> 01:32:43,230 is coming home with him an hour of code and okay. I don't like 1537 01:32:43,230 --> 01:32:48,930 the fact that it's completely driven by business. Is that what 1538 01:32:48,930 --> 01:32:51,030 we want for education? Is that how we want it to run 1539 01:32:51,060 --> 01:32:54,120 within we already discussed this with the idea that it was 1540 01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:58,350 brought up in one of the tutorials lectures about about 1541 01:32:58,350 --> 01:33:03,000 Common Core was like the pipeline. Yeah, it's yes, the 1542 01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:06,840 pipeline, the pipeline blind to a job with with, you know, 1543 01:33:07,620 --> 01:33:12,330 Excel, Cisco, Cisco, in Chicago, Cisco in Chicago, they open up 1544 01:33:12,330 --> 01:33:14,610 the they're paying for the charter schools, they open as 1545 01:33:14,610 --> 01:33:18,180 many charter schools as public schools closed. And now these 1546 01:33:18,180 --> 01:33:20,670 kids are a pipeline, they have the pipeline to the 1547 01:33:20,970 --> 01:33:22,980 what I think is funny about the charter school thing, which 1548 01:33:22,980 --> 01:33:27,510 will, we need to do always do that special episode discussing 1549 01:33:27,510 --> 01:33:32,820 in more detail, is the idea that you go into a community, and you 1550 01:33:32,820 --> 01:33:37,500 skim off all the smartest kids in a school and kill the rest. 1551 01:33:38,580 --> 01:33:43,080 That's what they would like to be the best of all, sports has 1552 01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:46,170 offered them the opportunity, quote, unquote, to go to the 1553 01:33:46,170 --> 01:33:49,320 charter school and the parents, oh, yes, of course. And then you 1554 01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,990 go to the next school, next school, and you skim off a bunch 1555 01:33:51,990 --> 01:33:54,570 of kids, and you either send it to the first or the site, and 1556 01:33:54,570 --> 01:33:57,390 then another Charter School, and you leave the public schools 1557 01:33:57,390 --> 01:34:01,050 with the worst kids. And of course, now that there's now 1558 01:34:01,050 --> 01:34:04,200 that there's not as many of them, you close the school, and 1559 01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:07,620 then you put those worst kids in with the other worst kids. So 1560 01:34:07,620 --> 01:34:10,530 you have to buy them their gangs, 1561 01:34:10,530 --> 01:34:13,320 you've got to you've got a bad bank, a slush fund. 1562 01:34:13,590 --> 01:34:17,280 And then so you have a school of horrible students that are very 1563 01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:21,870 poorly managed, let's say. They have issues that aren't being 1564 01:34:22,530 --> 01:34:26,250 addressed in any way. The school sucks, they can't teach anyone 1565 01:34:26,250 --> 01:34:30,240 anything. And you end up with a kind of a mud sill class of 1566 01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:33,420 students that can't read or write. And they of course, go 1567 01:34:33,420 --> 01:34:36,450 out and become criminals or do what they have to do to get out 1568 01:34:36,450 --> 01:34:39,240 of that situation, which would usually be to get out of town, 1569 01:34:39,660 --> 01:34:42,960 which they can't do. And you end up and then they wound again. 1570 01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:46,020 Now, when the government comes along, says, well, these charter 1571 01:34:46,020 --> 01:34:49,560 schools are doing so much better than the public school. Public 1572 01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:53,250 School stinks. We have to fire everybody there. And then they 1573 01:34:53,250 --> 01:34:55,440 put in a prison warden in there to get it over with it's 1574 01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:58,830 actually a conduit right to prison. And so they can make 1575 01:34:58,860 --> 01:35:02,370 license plates and then whole thing is stinks. If anybody 1576 01:35:02,370 --> 01:35:07,170 can't see it. I'm sorry. No, that's okay. should get a pet 1577 01:35:07,170 --> 01:35:07,950 peeve thing for that. 1578 01:35:07,980 --> 01:35:12,660 Yeah. John Cena borax diva 1579 01:35:13,830 --> 01:35:16,830 things you want them welcome back in just just a quick 1580 01:35:16,830 --> 01:35:20,280 rundown since of course I did go through it of the the spending 1581 01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,650 bills, just some funny things in there. The funniest thing, of 1582 01:35:22,650 --> 01:35:26,010 course is that here is John Boehner with his promise from I 1583 01:35:26,010 --> 01:35:27,900 think 2010, the American people 1584 01:35:27,900 --> 01:35:31,110 want leaders who will listen, they don't need any more 1585 01:35:31,110 --> 01:35:36,660 lectures coming into Washington. They've ignored the cries of 1586 01:35:36,660 --> 01:35:40,560 outrage from the American people by forcing a vote on bill after 1587 01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,710 bill without giving lawmakers enough time to even read the 1588 01:35:43,710 --> 01:35:47,010 bill says, If I'm the speaker, next year, we're gonna get the 1589 01:35:47,010 --> 01:35:55,320 Reform Movement moving again in the United States Congress. One 1590 01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:58,230 of my first orders of business would be to post every bill 1591 01:35:58,260 --> 01:36:01,830 online for at least 72 hours before it comes to the floor of 1592 01:36:01,830 --> 01:36:07,890 the house for a vote. Eight or whatever 1593 01:36:07,890 --> 01:36:11,040 everyone promised that people forget, I don't forget so 1594 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,710 quickly, but I wanted to make sure that everyone who Baynard 1595 01:36:13,710 --> 01:36:18,240 also promised this. So we don't have that. And I guess it's 1596 01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:21,630 going to be voted on today, it was hard for me, I had to skim 1597 01:36:21,630 --> 01:36:26,700 certain places to just to get through it while I had the the 1598 01:36:26,700 --> 01:36:29,460 torture report as well. So just a lot to go through 1599 01:36:29,610 --> 01:36:32,310 simultaneously a few things that are of notes, I think that we 1600 01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:37,260 should just discuss. In general campaign finance, which you 1601 01:36:37,260 --> 01:36:40,800 already brought up, this is interesting, where this is now 1602 01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:47,670 going to change a donor who had to date if I think the limit was 1603 01:36:47,670 --> 01:36:53,310 $32,400, I thought it was 6400. could be it could be I could 1604 01:36:53,310 --> 01:36:59,250 have that wrong. But now, you'll be able to donate almost 10 1605 01:36:59,250 --> 01:37:05,550 times as much. Up to 300. I think it's the 32,000 that's the 1606 01:37:05,580 --> 01:37:07,980 main maybe it's per household, you can just whatever 1607 01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:10,860 is beside the point, you can update. So you can get more 1608 01:37:10,860 --> 01:37:13,560 money, tenfold, tenfold, tenfold, 1609 01:37:13,590 --> 01:37:15,600 it's good for the only way you're gonna keep newspapers in 1610 01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,420 business. All of that goes positive thing. 1611 01:37:18,450 --> 01:37:21,180 It's very good for the media. Yes, that's where all that money 1612 01:37:21,180 --> 01:37:25,290 goes. newspapers, television, that radio, the media 1613 01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:30,780 appropriations portion of the Act, the kind of overturn, 1614 01:37:30,810 --> 01:37:35,280 really the biggest change of the original Dodd Frank Act, which 1615 01:37:35,310 --> 01:37:38,400 you'll recall, was brought into existence, because we never 1616 01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:42,060 ever, ever wanted to get into a situation again, where we would 1617 01:37:42,060 --> 01:37:45,960 have such a financial crisis, we had the great recession, worst 1618 01:37:46,530 --> 01:37:49,980 ever since the Great Depression, which President Obama saved us 1619 01:37:49,980 --> 01:37:54,120 from. So he needs to veto this. If you can do line item vetoes, 1620 01:37:54,120 --> 01:38:00,540 but he needs to veto the change, where they tried to make this 1621 01:38:00,540 --> 01:38:03,630 change earlier now it's been solidified, we actually track 1622 01:38:03,630 --> 01:38:10,410 the original bill, where the risk for derivatives swaps in 1623 01:38:10,410 --> 01:38:16,320 particular, will be burdened on the FDIC, the Federal Deposit 1624 01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,560 Insurance Corporation, which is a contributions from the bank, 1625 01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:25,830 who will never ever have enough money to shoulder a meltdown of 1626 01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:30,780 the derivatives trading, which is what is the what it $300 1627 01:38:30,780 --> 01:38:34,260 trillion, if that really all came out? rageous. Yeah. And 1628 01:38:34,260 --> 01:38:37,080 it's all just papers and people promises and yeah, but 1629 01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:41,520 then, of course, the liability of 300 trillion is out there. 1630 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:48,510 But the likelihood of is more likely to just turn over than it 1631 01:38:48,510 --> 01:38:52,950 is to cash out unless we expect another meltdown, like we had in 1632 01:38:52,950 --> 01:38:57,420 2007 2008, then you might have some problems. But you did. The 1633 01:38:57,420 --> 01:39:01,980 assumption is always made that yeah, that did theoretically, 1634 01:39:01,980 --> 01:39:05,190 you could have this this liability come to the fore, but 1635 01:39:05,850 --> 01:39:08,430 the likelihood is pretty low. 1636 01:39:10,530 --> 01:39:14,280 What, what have a meltdown of the derivatives market? Yeah. 1637 01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:18,390 Okay. That's partially what happened with with the 1638 01:39:18,390 --> 01:39:23,940 reinsurance and why AIG had to go and Lehman Brothers. Yeah. 1639 01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:24,930 All right. 1640 01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,710 I mean, they've, they're gone. And now yeah, of course, the 1641 01:39:28,950 --> 01:39:32,820 mechanisms are still in place, which is what bothers everybody. 1642 01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:37,440 But it just, I didn't know I think if we economy collapses, 1643 01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:39,660 it's going to be for something else. I think that may be a 1644 01:39:39,660 --> 01:39:40,800 contributing factor. 1645 01:39:41,460 --> 01:39:46,260 Nice to see that we had nice to see we did have some some space 1646 01:39:46,260 --> 01:39:52,140 to add $7 million to the Justice Department's budget for the new 1647 01:39:52,140 --> 01:39:57,630 anti Heroin Task Force. Not quite sure what they're going to 1648 01:39:57,630 --> 01:40:03,840 do yet anti heroin fee A Well, this is for the COPS Office, 1649 01:40:03,930 --> 01:40:07,290 though what are the cops is that I forget what the acronym is. 1650 01:40:08,700 --> 01:40:11,610 The money will be used as part of a competitive grant program 1651 01:40:11,610 --> 01:40:14,670 for drug enforcement, including investigations and operations to 1652 01:40:14,670 --> 01:40:19,650 stop the distribution or sale of the drug. Okay, sounds to me 1653 01:40:19,650 --> 01:40:24,750 like there. This is actually to enhance the sales pipeline. If 1654 01:40:24,750 --> 01:40:27,660 you want to stop the sales, how about the poppy production, 1655 01:40:27,660 --> 01:40:30,840 heroin production Afghanistan never been as high ever, 1656 01:40:31,110 --> 01:40:35,130 but is now at record breaking levels. It's just reported more 1657 01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:38,310 heroin is coming out of Afghanistan than ever. 1658 01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,160 Nice, isn't it? Yeah. Well, it's 1659 01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,530 a no, we know why. You know, it's because that's what we're 1660 01:40:43,530 --> 01:40:46,620 there it is this how the CIA gets that extra money so they 1661 01:40:46,620 --> 01:40:48,690 can own all the media. Yep. 1662 01:40:49,860 --> 01:40:52,530 Funny. Of course, everyone mentions Joe Biden again, has a 1663 01:40:52,530 --> 01:40:55,830 pay freeze. So sad. It'd be convenient and has been singled 1664 01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:59,490 out in this bill. No more money for the vice president. It 1665 01:40:59,490 --> 01:41:03,450 happens every single time and he never gets a raise. Libya, no 1666 01:41:03,450 --> 01:41:06,630 more US aid until the Secretary of State confirmed the country 1667 01:41:06,630 --> 01:41:10,980 is cooperating with ongoing investigations into the Benghazi 1668 01:41:10,980 --> 01:41:15,330 attack. And there was a lot of Moore's hearings going on about 1669 01:41:15,330 --> 01:41:17,880 that, which I want nothing really worth mentioning, 1670 01:41:18,210 --> 01:41:21,270 was what's his name, trying to get some trying to squeeze 1671 01:41:21,270 --> 01:41:25,050 something out of these, these guys who are sick of testifying, 1672 01:41:25,050 --> 01:41:26,220 they're never gonna get anywhere. 1673 01:41:27,780 --> 01:41:30,480 District of Columbia will be prohibited from legalizing 1674 01:41:30,480 --> 01:41:34,020 marijuana for much of the coming year. We were waiting to see 1675 01:41:34,020 --> 01:41:41,070 what would happen with this. This would block the Justice 1676 01:41:41,070 --> 01:41:43,470 Department from interfering with state level medical marijuana 1677 01:41:43,470 --> 01:41:45,900 measures and prohibits the Drug Enforcement Agency from 1678 01:41:45,900 --> 01:41:49,350 interfering with industrial hemp production, though there's a 1679 01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:53,280 little bit of movement there, but not really, really anything. 1680 01:41:53,790 --> 01:42:01,020 super interesting. I saw there was lots of stuff approval for a 1681 01:42:01,020 --> 01:42:06,120 military cooperation with Burma. I've been kind of waiting to see 1682 01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:12,330 what's gonna happen up there. And I'm not quite sure. There's 1683 01:42:12,330 --> 01:42:17,460 not no real numbers necessarily attributed to it. But it does 1684 01:42:17,580 --> 01:42:24,630 flow into that whistleblowers. We have language in here ensures 1685 01:42:24,630 --> 01:42:27,060 the government contractors are not barred from reporting 1686 01:42:27,060 --> 01:42:29,370 allegations of waste, fraud or abuse if they sign a 1687 01:42:29,370 --> 01:42:34,260 confidentiality agreement. And the occupational Yeah, the 1688 01:42:34,260 --> 01:42:36,960 Occupational Safety and Health Administration will receive a 1689 01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,930 $500,000 increase for its enforcement of existing 1690 01:42:39,930 --> 01:42:44,040 whistleblower laws. Yeah, that's really going to help. That's 1691 01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:49,890 really going to help running the White House, EB nine see I had 1692 01:42:49,950 --> 01:42:54,780 let me just see the military side of that what I have here. I 1693 01:42:54,780 --> 01:42:58,320 made it several markups and notes, we have a special ops and 1694 01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:04,890 terrorism. Extension of authority for support of special 1695 01:43:04,890 --> 01:43:09,120 operations to combat terrorism. Carrie was also up at the hill 1696 01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:12,240 asking for a very specific authorized authorized use of 1697 01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:18,780 military force. He wants a new one for ISIS. And I think that 1698 01:43:18,780 --> 01:43:21,150 they're trying to fold that into this. Maybe that's why it's 1699 01:43:21,150 --> 01:43:26,790 being delayed at the moment. He wants one. I did not clip 1700 01:43:26,790 --> 01:43:31,590 anything from him because I know he's too boring to play on the 1701 01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:36,120 show. It's very interesting how he's stating that. The President 1702 01:43:36,510 --> 01:43:37,440 I think if you speed 1703 01:43:37,440 --> 01:43:38,430 him up in my hell, 1704 01:43:39,330 --> 01:43:43,200 no, it's not gonna help. The president to clearly has under 1705 01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:48,870 the 2002 AUMF has the right to go after ISIS. But now they want 1706 01:43:48,870 --> 01:43:54,810 one very specific which will specifically broad, which allows 1707 01:43:54,810 --> 01:43:58,140 the author the use of military force anywhere in the world, not 1708 01:43:58,140 --> 01:44:04,620 just a particular reason, just anywhere. is very disturbing. We 1709 01:44:04,620 --> 01:44:11,460 have the some transfer of land ownership, which seems to be a 1710 01:44:11,460 --> 01:44:16,020 quid pro quo, kind of where there will be eight new national 1711 01:44:16,020 --> 01:44:20,190 parks 245,000 acres of land designated as new national 1712 01:44:20,190 --> 01:44:27,000 parks, in a swap 110,000 acres of federal ownership for 1713 01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:30,690 economic development will be created such as mining, drilling 1714 01:44:30,690 --> 01:44:34,140 and infrastructure. I do not know exactly where that's going 1715 01:44:34,140 --> 01:44:37,230 to take place but it seems like somebody's getting a good deal 1716 01:44:37,230 --> 01:44:40,470 out of that. And as I said the main the main thing really here 1717 01:44:40,470 --> 01:44:43,080 is buying back the sequestration. That is literally 1718 01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:48,090 what it said says in the defense portion of the bill just have to 1719 01:44:48,090 --> 01:44:52,260 turn everything back and every news report that I can find says 1720 01:44:52,260 --> 01:44:55,590 exactly that. This is the sequestration ends here 1721 01:44:55,620 --> 01:44:58,980 and we have to realize and remember and remind people that 1722 01:44:58,980 --> 01:45:05,670 sequestration was a cutback on increases on increases. So 1723 01:45:05,670 --> 01:45:07,860 they've got the same amount of money they've always had to 1724 01:45:07,860 --> 01:45:12,960 blow. But the increases were pulled back. Yes. And now the 1725 01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,690 increases will be back in play. So back back on their old 1726 01:45:15,690 --> 01:45:19,530 treadmill so the amount of money going to these to the military 1727 01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:24,930 for training, we'll be again back to where it was, which is 1728 01:45:24,930 --> 01:45:27,930 lots of, well, it's a lot of money, a lot of stuff that goes 1729 01:45:27,930 --> 01:45:32,010 on to the surplus market lost a lot of drone financing, a lot of 1730 01:45:32,010 --> 01:45:34,740 drone financing, also a lot of stuff that gets pulled out from 1731 01:45:34,740 --> 01:45:38,340 these battle fronts and given to local police. All comes from 1732 01:45:38,340 --> 01:45:41,190 that that sort of wild spending. 1733 01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:45,060 I wanted to throw back to something that I said that I had 1734 01:45:45,060 --> 01:45:47,730 difficulty convincing you about and I want to give it another go 1735 01:45:47,730 --> 01:45:51,240 if you're if you're okay with that. This is about a Ferguson 1736 01:45:51,270 --> 01:45:55,710 and the result of this the body cameras and when I believe is 1737 01:45:55,710 --> 01:45:56,640 federalisation, 1738 01:45:56,670 --> 01:45:58,770 the body cameras are abomination. 1739 01:46:01,110 --> 01:46:03,870 I think it's the I do not think it's a good initiative. I think 1740 01:46:03,870 --> 01:46:09,270 what is happening is we are seeing a federalization of our 1741 01:46:09,270 --> 01:46:13,110 police forces. First if the president 1742 01:46:13,260 --> 01:46:16,950 exactly how you get from body cameras to federalisation is my 1743 01:46:16,950 --> 01:46:20,220 other counter argument my others my side of this for people who 1744 01:46:20,220 --> 01:46:21,150 who are just tuning in 1745 01:46:21,180 --> 01:46:24,360 and this is what I would like to talk about, I think I can I want 1746 01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:27,420 to take another go at it. How we go from body cameras to 1747 01:46:27,420 --> 01:46:31,410 federalisation. Okay, first let's listen to a little bit of 1748 01:46:31,410 --> 01:46:33,780 the language which is going on this. The President did an 1749 01:46:33,780 --> 01:46:37,920 interview to a couple interviews with BT Black Entertainment 1750 01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,890 Television. I've liked that interviewer a lot. By the way. 1751 01:46:40,890 --> 01:46:41,340 Yeah, you 1752 01:46:41,340 --> 01:46:43,530 should hear what Tavis Smiley said about 1753 01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,740 I did hear that. Tavis Smiley hated that. I know 1754 01:46:46,890 --> 01:46:49,080 what Tavis Smiley doesn't like the president because he won't 1755 01:46:49,140 --> 01:46:50,400 do his show, apparently, 1756 01:46:50,670 --> 01:46:54,000 Tavis Smiley and he got into a fight with Don Lemon. I like 1757 01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,790 that I'm not gonna waste our time talking about that. I like 1758 01:46:56,790 --> 01:47:00,570 this guy. I like the way he asked questions. He sounded like 1759 01:47:00,570 --> 01:47:02,760 Eddie Murphy when you didn't when you close your eyes, which 1760 01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,970 just made it kind of funny. But here's the Telemundo guy. And I 1761 01:47:05,970 --> 01:47:09,690 did not like this line of questioning the issue of the 1762 01:47:09,690 --> 01:47:12,690 killings of Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Trayvon Martin clearly 1763 01:47:12,690 --> 01:47:15,240 shows that we don't live in a post racial society as many 1764 01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:18,330 expected when you were elected. Well, I didn't expect that. You 1765 01:47:18,330 --> 01:47:22,530 probably didn't either. But But many people expected you 1766 01:47:22,530 --> 01:47:28,230 probably to do more on race relations, dealing with white 1767 01:47:28,230 --> 01:47:32,040 privilege. Do you get angry with this dealing with white 1768 01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:36,630 privilege? Now? It's just out there. Now it's just out there. 1769 01:47:36,630 --> 01:47:39,960 It's part of the we have white privilege. So this is not it's 1770 01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:46,590 gone beyond racism. Now, the way I read this, no, it's not that 1771 01:47:46,590 --> 01:47:50,460 some people are racist, white people have a problem, white 1772 01:47:50,460 --> 01:47:55,320 privilege. I do not like this where this is headed in. In the 1773 01:47:55,320 --> 01:48:00,360 way we're in the discourse. Here is the representative from the 1774 01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:03,690 Center for American Progress. This is a Democratic Party 1775 01:48:03,690 --> 01:48:13,200 funded outfit. Her name is Aisha Moodle, Mills, she's on MSNBC. 1776 01:48:13,230 --> 01:48:14,880 And wow, 1777 01:48:15,060 --> 01:48:18,210 I'm thinking for 2016. I mean, the fact that Republicans have 1778 01:48:18,210 --> 01:48:21,960 such a big block of of voters in the south, do you think it's 1779 01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:24,780 gonna be a problem, for example, for Hillary Clinton or any other 1780 01:48:24,780 --> 01:48:27,030 Democrat who runs in 2016? 1781 01:48:27,330 --> 01:48:30,390 For sure the South is going to be a tough nut nut to crack but 1782 01:48:30,510 --> 01:48:33,180 but I actually disagree with this idea that it's that the 1783 01:48:33,180 --> 01:48:35,370 reason why Democrats have completely lost the South is 1784 01:48:35,370 --> 01:48:38,520 because it's about policy exclusively. The reality. And 1785 01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:40,110 every single poll shows this, 1786 01:48:40,140 --> 01:48:42,840 if it comes back to reality, every single poll shows that 1787 01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:44,430 this must be true fact that 1788 01:48:44,430 --> 01:48:47,430 Democrats have completely lost the South because white people 1789 01:48:47,580 --> 01:48:50,880 are running away from Barack Obama and this African American 1790 01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:53,490 man who's occupying the White House, Mary Landrieu only got 1791 01:48:53,490 --> 01:48:56,820 something like 80% of the white vote, you're seeing that more 1792 01:48:56,820 --> 01:49:00,300 and more and more white people are voting for Republicans and I 1793 01:49:00,300 --> 01:49:03,780 and I talk about that because we can't discount the idea of the 1794 01:49:03,780 --> 01:49:06,900 racial politics that are playing out down there. People hate this 1795 01:49:06,900 --> 01:49:09,150 President and southerners hate this president Ward's may have 1796 01:49:09,150 --> 01:49:10,980 hated any other Democratic president. 1797 01:49:11,130 --> 01:49:15,090 Yeah, he's black. We hate him white privilege, which is, you 1798 01:49:15,090 --> 01:49:17,430 might as well say white supremacy. Come on, just say it. 1799 01:49:18,810 --> 01:49:21,000 A couple of guys have. Of course, 1800 01:49:21,480 --> 01:49:24,930 this is this is ridiculous. There is no there is no evidence 1801 01:49:24,930 --> 01:49:27,720 Pete white people are running away in the South because he's 1802 01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:32,550 black. There's no evidence of this being the reason it is but 1803 01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:36,540 it is very, very dangerous language and people are starting 1804 01:49:36,540 --> 01:49:39,030 to believe it. People are starting to buy into this 1805 01:49:39,030 --> 01:49:43,230 because hey, it's on TV all day long so you can control the 1806 01:49:43,230 --> 01:49:47,640 minds. You can control people the way they think. Okay, now 1807 01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:52,020 we're going to move into what I think is where this is heading 1808 01:49:52,020 --> 01:49:57,510 and it started out with Eric Holder. He is He is the he's the 1809 01:49:57,510 --> 01:50:00,990 guy who doesn't get a lot of the the mainstream media Attention. 1810 01:50:01,500 --> 01:50:05,370 When he, when he does his little speeches, he's very boring, very 1811 01:50:05,370 --> 01:50:09,000 dry, you only want to listen to a clip. But he has spoken about 1812 01:50:09,180 --> 01:50:12,390 a creating the Institute of Justice within the Justice 1813 01:50:12,390 --> 01:50:16,200 Department. And the I actually call it the department of social 1814 01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:19,620 justice. This is what? So justice, you know, what, we need 1815 01:50:19,620 --> 01:50:23,490 an Institute of Justice, which will deal with racial issues. 1816 01:50:23,940 --> 01:50:27,780 And the Justice Department can do some legal things when it 1817 01:50:27,780 --> 01:50:31,800 comes to police forces and city. Yes, I want 1818 01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:37,050 to mention a meme that's going around. That may relate to this, 1819 01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:40,230 okay. And you see it on TV, there's a bunch of actors in the 1820 01:50:40,230 --> 01:50:43,200 black and white, and they're saying things, one after the 1821 01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:47,730 other, and about social justice and all that sort of thing. And 1822 01:50:47,730 --> 01:50:51,660 somebody comes out and says, the opposite of Poverty isn't 1823 01:50:51,660 --> 01:50:57,810 wealth. It's justice. Wow. Now the and I've heard this before, 1824 01:50:57,810 --> 01:50:59,910 I didn't think about it until I saw it again, this last time, 1825 01:50:59,910 --> 01:51:02,880 and I wasn't gonna bring it up until you brought it up. But the 1826 01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:07,230 opposite is in anti social justice in some funny way. To 1827 01:51:07,230 --> 01:51:11,520 me, if I had a choice between wealth and justice as an 1828 01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:15,930 opposite of poverty, I take the wealth and then fight to get the 1829 01:51:15,930 --> 01:51:19,290 justice. But okay, let's just say that justice, I don't even 1830 01:51:19,290 --> 01:51:21,000 know what that means. By the way, it seems like a non 1831 01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:24,630 sequitur, how is justice, the opposite of poverty, you could 1832 01:51:24,630 --> 01:51:28,590 be in poverty and get plenty of justice, it doesn't do any good 1833 01:51:28,590 --> 01:51:31,710 in terms of making more money or getting wealth, or getting out 1834 01:51:31,710 --> 01:51:34,020 of poverty, let's say, well, these, these are the means 1835 01:51:34,020 --> 01:51:38,130 assume that justice by in of itself will bring people out of 1836 01:51:38,130 --> 01:51:41,190 poverty, because the only reason they're in poverty is because of 1837 01:51:41,190 --> 01:51:46,680 some injustice that connects to white privilege. And this, and 1838 01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:50,310 this is an anti poverty program that he's suggesting, amongst 1839 01:51:50,340 --> 01:51:54,300 the cognitive Sani, who know that justice is a code word. 1840 01:51:55,440 --> 01:51:58,530 Very good point, we now have to keep our eyes open for this 1841 01:51:58,530 --> 01:52:03,180 particular meme. This justice is the is the antithesis, 1842 01:52:03,180 --> 01:52:08,520 antithesis, or the opposite opposite of poverty. Very good. 1843 01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:16,770 But I believe that what is happening here is a a move, to 1844 01:52:16,770 --> 01:52:21,330 control it certainly control policing across the country, 1845 01:52:21,450 --> 01:52:24,810 just so people understand maybe different where you're from. In 1846 01:52:24,810 --> 01:52:27,150 the United States, the Austin Police Department is run by the 1847 01:52:27,150 --> 01:52:30,930 City of Austin, it may have connections with the city of 1848 01:52:30,930 --> 01:52:34,770 Dallas or the city of New York, but it is not in Washington, DC, 1849 01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:38,340 who runs the city of Austin, they just don't run it. But it's 1850 01:52:38,370 --> 01:52:41,100 our it's our police force. And the sheriff fits into this 1851 01:52:41,100 --> 01:52:44,610 somehow, which we've talked about is a very important guy in 1852 01:52:44,610 --> 01:52:47,940 the politics and with how things actually work with a law and 1853 01:52:47,940 --> 01:52:52,560 order. And that is our system. With the federal funding of 1854 01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:57,540 these body cameras. I believe we are starting down a path that 1855 01:52:57,540 --> 01:53:00,960 will federalize the police forces, then and I'm going to 1856 01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,930 try it again with you. And then I've had four clips to 1857 01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:10,770 accentuate this point. First of all, listen to what the man 1858 01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:14,310 says. We've I've we've been through this a million times the 1859 01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:17,670 things President Obama says, You gotta listen really carefully. 1860 01:53:17,670 --> 01:53:21,330 Because he all he they know very well what he's saying. Who 1861 01:53:21,330 --> 01:53:23,580 writes it for me, however, however it comes up, it's very, 1862 01:53:23,580 --> 01:53:26,940 very smart. They're very, very meticulous about I told you this 1863 01:53:26,970 --> 01:53:27,900 three years ago. 1864 01:53:28,980 --> 01:53:34,020 Here's the interview with a BT, where he starts to go down this 1865 01:53:34,020 --> 01:53:36,660 road one and progress means different things to different 1866 01:53:36,660 --> 01:53:39,450 people. So there are those that want body cameras or those that 1867 01:53:39,450 --> 01:53:44,340 want civilian review boards. And much of this is not a federal 1868 01:53:44,340 --> 01:53:45,660 mandate. Most of 1869 01:53:45,660 --> 01:53:50,520 it, most of it is not federal, but the federal government can 1870 01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:51,990 have an influence. Okay. 1871 01:53:52,559 --> 01:53:57,539 So this is have an influence, to me means he wants to have that 1872 01:53:57,539 --> 01:53:58,199 and influence 1873 01:53:58,530 --> 01:54:02,520 fund a lot of jurisdictions all across the country. 1874 01:54:03,330 --> 01:54:06,750 Follow the money. Yes, we've already been funding police 1875 01:54:06,750 --> 01:54:09,570 departments with this militaristic stuff, which police 1876 01:54:09,570 --> 01:54:12,270 departments have now come to depend on whether they're using 1877 01:54:12,270 --> 01:54:16,380 it or auctioning it and use the money. This is a federal 1878 01:54:16,380 --> 01:54:19,950 funding. And when you control the purse strings, you have 1879 01:54:19,950 --> 01:54:22,500 leverage, as the President will say himself, 1880 01:54:22,530 --> 01:54:27,600 and if we can identify best practices, then for us to be 1881 01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:32,940 able to say you need to adopt these best practices. And if you 1882 01:54:32,940 --> 01:54:37,290 don't, then perhaps some of the funding that's available around 1883 01:54:38,310 --> 01:54:42,090 some things that law enforcement cares about, become less 1884 01:54:42,090 --> 01:54:42,600 available. 1885 01:54:42,810 --> 01:54:46,560 This is exactly how common core was put in place. If you don't 1886 01:54:46,590 --> 01:54:50,640 accept the Common Core, then the billions of dollars from the No 1887 01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:54,330 Child Left Behind and the Start programs, you may not get that 1888 01:54:54,330 --> 01:54:56,130 funding. So what do you want to do? 1889 01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:59,250 We're going to provide more to folks who are doing the right 1890 01:54:59,250 --> 01:55:02,010 thing and you We're going to be investigating folks who are not 1891 01:55:02,010 --> 01:55:02,610 doing the right thing. 1892 01:55:02,970 --> 01:55:05,310 I'm sorry, not just not giving what we're gonna investigate 1893 01:55:05,310 --> 01:55:08,580 you, if you don't take the money by doing the right thing we may 1894 01:55:08,580 --> 01:55:09,420 investigate you 1895 01:55:09,450 --> 01:55:12,330 think that becomes an important part of the leverage that we can 1896 01:55:12,330 --> 01:55:12,720 exert. 1897 01:55:12,990 --> 01:55:16,530 And does that happen through federal legislation? Or does 1898 01:55:16,530 --> 01:55:20,760 that happen through utilizing the DOJ as a tool? We saw Eric 1899 01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:26,010 Holder in Cleveland yesterday. And the dissent decree and the 1900 01:55:26,310 --> 01:55:30,000 the supervision agreement, I think was a good one that said, 1901 01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,190 the city of Cleveland, here's what you've been doing wrong 1902 01:55:32,190 --> 01:55:34,320 systemically, right. And now we're going to hold you 1903 01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:37,710 accountable. Is that going to become the rule? Or does there 1904 01:55:37,710 --> 01:55:39,630 ultimately have to be federal policy? 1905 01:55:39,660 --> 01:55:42,930 Let's stop for one moment here and switch over to Eric Holder 1906 01:55:43,140 --> 01:55:46,260 with the mayor of Cleveland, the police department of Cleveland, 1907 01:55:46,260 --> 01:55:50,190 horrible racist profiling, gotta stop gotta get them on board. 1908 01:55:50,460 --> 01:55:53,670 And they have now come to an agreement which will turn into a 1909 01:55:53,670 --> 01:55:59,190 legal term, a consent decree decree with the Department of 1910 01:55:59,190 --> 01:56:01,290 Justice. Here is the announcement with Eric Holder 1911 01:56:01,290 --> 01:56:02,430 and the mayor of Cleveland 1912 01:56:02,460 --> 01:56:06,810 since March of 2013. The Justice Department has closely examined 1913 01:56:07,050 --> 01:56:09,930 nearly 600 use of force incidents that occurred between 1914 01:56:09,930 --> 01:56:15,000 2010 and 2013, including the incidents involving the use of 1915 01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:18,810 lethal and less than lethal force, we have determined that 1916 01:56:18,810 --> 01:56:21,600 there is reasonable cause to believe that the Cleveland 1917 01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:24,270 division of public police engages in a pattern and 1918 01:56:24,270 --> 01:56:27,540 practice of using excessive force and as a result of 1919 01:56:27,570 --> 01:56:30,720 systemic deficiencies, including insufficient accountability, 1920 01:56:31,020 --> 01:56:33,990 inadequate training, and equipment, ineffective policies 1921 01:56:33,990 --> 01:56:37,980 and inadequate engagement in the community. Now, fortunately, 1922 01:56:38,070 --> 01:56:41,220 today, I can announce that the Department of Justice and the 1923 01:56:41,250 --> 01:56:45,300 city of Cleveland have come together, have come together to 1924 01:56:45,300 --> 01:56:49,080 set in motion a process that will remedies these issues in a 1925 01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:53,400 comprehensive and in a court enforceable manner. under Mayor 1926 01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:56,490 Jackson's leadership, the city has acknowledged that the 1927 01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:59,580 department's findings raise issues of importance to people 1928 01:56:59,940 --> 01:57:02,700 really throughout this community. And together, we have 1929 01:57:02,700 --> 01:57:05,550 agreed to a statement of principles that will lead to a 1930 01:57:05,550 --> 01:57:09,600 court enforceable consent decree, including an independent 1931 01:57:09,660 --> 01:57:13,560 monitor who will oversee the implementation of sustainable 1932 01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:18,030 reforms, assess compliance based on objective measures, and 1933 01:57:18,030 --> 01:57:22,590 ensure that robust policies and practices will result in more 1934 01:57:22,590 --> 01:57:25,530 effective and constitutional policing. 1935 01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:31,410 Jess, okay, that is a legally enforceable agreement between a 1936 01:57:31,410 --> 01:57:35,970 city and an independent state now directly under enforcement 1937 01:57:35,970 --> 01:57:39,960 by the Department of Justice, once they get the consent decree 1938 01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,180 drawn up and signed back to the President. 1939 01:57:42,210 --> 01:57:46,170 You know, let's look at what the the taskforce generates. I mean, 1940 01:57:46,170 --> 01:57:48,960 I've confidence, you know, we've got a police chief, we got a 1941 01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:51,090 criminologist. We've got civil rights leaders, we've got 1942 01:57:51,090 --> 01:57:55,470 activists, as part of this task force process. Let's see the 1943 01:57:55,470 --> 01:57:58,110 specifics that they generate, but I will tell you that the 1944 01:57:58,110 --> 01:58:02,820 Department of Justice already has authority. So in the Eric 1945 01:58:02,820 --> 01:58:07,080 Garner case, Eric Holder, I think, properly said, we're 1946 01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:12,600 going to initiate a civil rights investigation. The Cleveland 1947 01:58:12,750 --> 01:58:16,470 case you just mentioned, we already have the ability to take 1948 01:58:16,470 --> 01:58:16,830 a look. 1949 01:58:17,940 --> 01:58:21,300 This is pretty much the par for the course, just like the 1950 01:58:21,300 --> 01:58:25,410 authorized use of military force, we already have the 1951 01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:28,830 proper authority to do this. Under a civil rights 1952 01:58:28,830 --> 01:58:32,400 investigation. I think I don't even know if you call it a civil 1953 01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:35,640 rights investigation, I believe it can just be a investigation 1954 01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:38,910 about breaking the law. I don't know why it has to specifically 1955 01:58:38,910 --> 01:58:41,850 be called a civil rights investigation. We already have 1956 01:58:41,850 --> 01:58:45,210 the authority for that. But we will go to individual cities and 1957 01:58:45,210 --> 01:58:49,440 states and we will get a legally binding agreement, where we 1958 01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:52,920 oversee what you're doing. And we also have all the money that 1959 01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:55,980 you need. Finally, the President is just going to come out and 1960 01:58:55,980 --> 01:58:56,520 say it. 1961 01:58:56,700 --> 01:58:59,910 You know, I've said it before, the vast majority of law 1962 01:58:59,910 --> 01:59:03,510 enforcement officers are doing a really tough job. And most of 1963 01:59:03,510 --> 01:59:07,260 them are doing it well, and are trying to do the right thing. 1964 01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:12,060 But a combination of bad training, in some cases, a 1965 01:59:12,060 --> 01:59:16,830 combination in some cases of departments that really are not 1966 01:59:16,830 --> 01:59:23,760 trying to root out biases, or tolerate sloppy police work. A 1967 01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:26,970 combination in some cases, folks, just not knowing any 1968 01:59:26,970 --> 01:59:32,640 better. And I think a lot of cases, subconscious fear of 1969 01:59:32,820 --> 01:59:39,210 folks who look different. All of this contributes to a national 1970 01:59:39,210 --> 01:59:42,060 problem. That's going to require a national solution. 1971 01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:46,230 Folks, before you drag this on any further, we're 1972 01:59:46,230 --> 01:59:48,570 going to end it right now. I'm going to end it right now. But 1973 01:59:48,570 --> 01:59:49,170 go ahead. 1974 01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:53,880 Well, before you drag this on any further, first of all, yeah, 1975 01:59:53,940 --> 01:59:57,300 I'm sure the Feds would love to run all the police departments 1976 01:59:57,300 --> 01:59:59,790 if they could because it's more money to them and they like to 1977 01:59:59,790 --> 02:00:01,800 get as much money as they can, they can take the local money 1978 02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:04,200 and put that in their coffers and wasted, like they do 1979 02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:06,570 everything else. And it's a known fact that they've done 1980 02:00:06,570 --> 02:00:08,820 this, you know, they try to push their way in their states like 1981 02:00:08,820 --> 02:00:12,030 they do with road programs, oh, you're not gonna go along with 1982 02:00:12,030 --> 02:00:14,550 this program? Well, then we'll cut off your road funding, they 1983 02:00:14,550 --> 02:00:17,580 do that they screw the states that way. So they can push them 1984 02:00:17,580 --> 02:00:19,770 around, even though they're they don't know quite what to do this 1985 02:00:19,770 --> 02:00:22,530 marijuana thing, even though in that bill, you're talking about 1986 02:00:22,530 --> 02:00:25,830 as discussed in Washington, DC marijuana proposals, like we're 1987 02:00:25,830 --> 02:00:28,050 not going to just not going to give him any money, because it's 1988 02:00:28,050 --> 02:00:32,130 not what we want. And and this experiment of federalizing all 1989 02:00:32,130 --> 02:00:35,910 the local police departments actually done in Sweden in 1965, 1990 02:00:35,970 --> 02:00:38,400 where they did exactly what you're describing, they took 1991 02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:41,790 over the whole place, it turned out to be a fiasco. And they had 1992 02:00:41,790 --> 02:00:46,020 to federalize that in a federal management sense where they had 1993 02:00:46,020 --> 02:00:48,660 to give local, because they would, because the Feds can't. 1994 02:00:48,780 --> 02:00:52,860 This is like Macy's having centralized buying. So when I 1995 02:00:52,890 --> 02:00:55,260 went when they started establishing centralized 1996 02:00:55,260 --> 02:00:58,140 anything, which is federal government doing it National 1997 02:00:58,140 --> 02:01:00,330 Police, you always screw up because you don't know what's 1998 02:01:00,330 --> 02:01:03,060 going on in the local areas, you don't know anything, you're just 1999 02:01:03,090 --> 02:01:06,150 idiots. You're just robots. And that's what they always ends up 2000 02:01:06,150 --> 02:01:09,120 happening always gets pushed back because of that Macy's with 2001 02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:12,270 his centralized buying results in me being able to go to 2002 02:01:12,270 --> 02:01:17,250 Florida and buy some really outstanding wool suits, because 2003 02:01:17,250 --> 02:01:19,980 nobody in Florida ever buys these suits, but decentralized 2004 02:01:19,980 --> 02:01:23,820 buyers put them there anyway. And none of this that you're 2005 02:01:23,820 --> 02:01:26,520 good that you've gone on and on about has anything to do with 2006 02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:30,510 the cameras. This is a fallacy argument, what you would call 2007 02:01:30,510 --> 02:01:33,780 post hoc, where you see one thing leading to another and you 2008 02:01:33,780 --> 02:01:36,450 hook the two together, as the one has something to do with the 2009 02:01:36,450 --> 02:01:39,390 other your real argument, which is that the Federal Police, 2010 02:01:39,660 --> 02:01:42,720 we're gonna have a federalized police demands these cameras, 2011 02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:46,260 because if we don't have cameras on everybody, all these cops is 2012 02:01:46,260 --> 02:01:49,350 going to be completely out of control. Thus, the cameras are 2013 02:01:49,350 --> 02:01:53,190 needed, I am not seeing the connection between cameras. And 2014 02:01:53,190 --> 02:01:56,760 this because this has been going on forever. And the cameras are 2015 02:01:56,790 --> 02:01:59,340 an element that has nothing to do with it, 2016 02:02:00,090 --> 02:02:04,020 despite the fact that they are being funded and called for by 2017 02:02:04,020 --> 02:02:06,030 the central federal government that 2018 02:02:06,270 --> 02:02:10,050 despite that, that's where you get the fallacy fallacy argument 2019 02:02:10,050 --> 02:02:12,930 of post hoc, you're connecting to things that have nothing to 2020 02:02:12,930 --> 02:02:13,770 do with each other, 2021 02:02:13,860 --> 02:02:15,300 they're gonna come for you First 2022 02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:18,450 I'll have a camera to 2023 02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:21,480 hear is the promise the President made, which I have 2024 02:02:21,480 --> 02:02:23,010 just not forgotten, we cannot 2025 02:02:23,010 --> 02:02:27,420 continue to rely only on our military, in order to achieve 2026 02:02:27,420 --> 02:02:30,720 the national security objectives that we've said. We've got to 2027 02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:33,960 have a civilian national security force that's just as 2028 02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:37,440 powerful, just as strong, just as well funded. 2029 02:02:39,210 --> 02:02:40,170 Enjoy that 2030 02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:45,120 came long before the candidates. The cameras may be a defensive 2031 02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:47,790 mechanism against this. And that's one of the things he 2032 02:02:47,790 --> 02:02:51,510 promised when he got elected was the set up shop, which a lot of 2033 02:02:51,510 --> 02:02:56,820 people believe is the TSA shit set up shop as a national police 2034 02:02:56,820 --> 02:03:00,120 or a national brown shirts. I don't even know what he was 2035 02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:03,660 talking about when you tried to break it down. But yeah, so what 2036 02:03:03,660 --> 02:03:07,620 he's this is old. This is not even new. It's it's a long, 2037 02:03:09,090 --> 02:03:13,800 desired situation that the Democrats and I don't know why 2038 02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:17,370 Obama, why they want this, but it's not not a new situation. 2039 02:03:17,370 --> 02:03:19,560 And it's got nothing to do with the cameras. Your connection. 2040 02:03:19,590 --> 02:03:23,910 Yeah. So in other words, I'm not buying any of it in regards to 2041 02:03:23,910 --> 02:03:26,280 the cameras. Okay. 2042 02:03:26,460 --> 02:03:30,360 Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Take away the cameras. 2043 02:03:30,630 --> 02:03:32,130 I'm okay. Take away the cameras. 2044 02:03:32,430 --> 02:03:35,850 Okay. I'll take away the cameras. And then yeah, I agree 2045 02:03:35,850 --> 02:03:36,930 with everything you say. 2046 02:03:38,760 --> 02:03:42,090 Okay, all right, then fine. But then I then I am wrong about the 2047 02:03:42,090 --> 02:03:42,780 cameras. 2048 02:03:44,100 --> 02:03:45,900 Yeah, that is my assertion, 2049 02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:48,720 then I'm wrong. It's good. I'd rather I'm happy to be wrong 2050 02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:49,650 about the cameras. 2051 02:03:50,010 --> 02:03:53,370 Yeah, I do not good to go with the National Police. 2052 02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:57,660 No, I'm all against this. This is my point. That this cannot 2053 02:03:57,660 --> 02:04:00,060 happen if this is it, what is happening is because of the 2054 02:04:00,060 --> 02:04:06,390 racial tension that is being amplified, amplified to an 2055 02:04:06,390 --> 02:04:10,320 extreme degree. This is why the President feels very comfortable 2056 02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:12,930 in saying we are coming for you. And we're going to create 2057 02:04:12,930 --> 02:04:15,990 legally binding agreements with you so we can control you with 2058 02:04:15,990 --> 02:04:21,390 our money and with the court system. We agree on that. 2059 02:04:21,660 --> 02:04:24,420 Yeah, I think there's always been a trend of they've been 2060 02:04:24,420 --> 02:04:28,380 trying anyway, they don't think they're as good as it as it 2061 02:04:28,500 --> 02:04:33,060 they're not as good at it as they like to believe. Right. 2062 02:04:34,110 --> 02:04:38,250 Well, I certainly hope these cameras do not contribute to 2063 02:04:38,310 --> 02:04:41,190 going down that road. Let me let me let me put it this won't 2064 02:04:41,190 --> 02:04:44,580 get off this camera thing. You are stuck on that. You just say 2065 02:04:44,670 --> 02:04:47,340 that. What is it with you in these cameras? There's something 2066 02:04:47,340 --> 02:04:48,330 else going on? 2067 02:04:51,510 --> 02:04:54,870 I don't think it's a good idea. Ya know, I've gotten that 2068 02:04:54,870 --> 02:04:56,580 impression. I'm from the future. 2069 02:04:58,290 --> 02:05:00,990 In this case, you will have your front confusion and you must 2070 02:05:00,990 --> 02:05:03,330 know the cameras are everywhere. Yeah, 2071 02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:04,980 I'm all for less cameras, 2072 02:05:05,130 --> 02:05:06,360 but you know, it's already happened. 2073 02:05:06,390 --> 02:05:09,390 I'm for less cameras is what I'm saying. 2074 02:05:11,219 --> 02:05:15,629 I'm not a big camera fanatic. Yes, you know, when I buy a 2075 02:05:15,629 --> 02:05:18,779 monitor if it's got a camera on it I put a piece of gaffers tape 2076 02:05:18,779 --> 02:05:22,049 right over the thing right over there do the same thing with the 2077 02:05:22,049 --> 02:05:22,679 phone camera. 2078 02:05:23,219 --> 02:05:26,069 I don't know maybe it's just I don't like the idea of cameras 2079 02:05:26,309 --> 02:05:33,719 that are part of a federal government program I'm okay with 2080 02:05:33,749 --> 02:05:37,709 I'm more okay with cameras when individual police departments go 2081 02:05:37,709 --> 02:05:40,949 okay, we're gonna put cameras on our guys and some do and some 2082 02:05:40,949 --> 02:05:43,919 have success and some haven't. I don't like the idea that why 2083 02:05:43,919 --> 02:05:45,989 does that have to come from the federal government? 2084 02:05:46,020 --> 02:05:49,740 Why why it shouldn't I don't think it should either. 2085 02:05:49,740 --> 02:05:52,380 And I went so there's always strings attached this is my 2086 02:05:52,380 --> 02:05:55,320 point. This is why I don't like this part. I don't like that 2087 02:05:55,320 --> 02:05:57,150 seems like you're starting something 2088 02:05:57,420 --> 02:05:59,760 you've already got half these police departments buying all 2089 02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:03,330 the crap that TSA was quote unquote giving away 2090 02:06:05,490 --> 02:06:08,700 they're not I thought they were the 1033 program I thought it 2091 02:06:08,700 --> 02:06:09,930 would be it is gifted 2092 02:06:10,950 --> 02:06:16,260 and I kind of yeah yeah it's gifted so well with the seller 2093 02:06:16,260 --> 02:06:18,870 they bought or they gift or whatever it's still a strings 2094 02:06:18,870 --> 02:06:19,530 attached 2095 02:06:20,370 --> 02:06:21,780 Yeah, not a fan 2096 02:06:24,180 --> 02:06:28,980 no I'm always been against from the beginning the military's 2097 02:06:28,980 --> 02:06:32,610 ation of the American police departments and to the point 2098 02:06:32,820 --> 02:06:34,800 where the American police departments aren't even police 2099 02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:37,620 departments anymore, as it was pointed out in the wire when one 2100 02:06:37,620 --> 02:06:41,220 of the cops was lamenting the problem with the law enforcement 2101 02:06:41,220 --> 02:06:45,090 is that nobody police's the all they do is practice law 2102 02:06:45,090 --> 02:06:49,230 enforcement. Law enforcement is different than policing. Yes. 2103 02:06:49,650 --> 02:06:52,350 Law enforcement is oh, you build you stepped across other you 2104 02:06:52,350 --> 02:06:56,580 broke the law. You're in jail for that. There's not policing 2105 02:06:56,580 --> 02:06:58,920 policing, you say, Hey, don't step over that line. Again. 2106 02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:01,350 You're gonna get me you know, that's a violation. That's 2107 02:07:01,350 --> 02:07:03,930 policing. And that's what should be done. You never see any of 2108 02:07:03,930 --> 02:07:06,540 that on the street especially with the black the blacks that 2109 02:07:06,540 --> 02:07:09,690 are blah. Oh, you broke the law. You broke the section so and so 2110 02:07:09,690 --> 02:07:12,780 are you see these indictments where they list everything? Now 2111 02:07:12,780 --> 02:07:16,170 you didn't have your shoes tied? You didn't do this? And you 2112 02:07:16,170 --> 02:07:18,270 didn't date the guy for all these things when he's get the 2113 02:07:18,270 --> 02:07:24,480 guy you know, was a shoplifter took a candy bar. Spear resisted 2114 02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:26,130 arrest. He did this. He did that. 2115 02:07:26,340 --> 02:07:33,000 Speaking of moving on, speaking of police, and I was laughing at 2116 02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:34,950 these kinds of stories. We're going over to Euro land for a 2117 02:07:34,950 --> 02:07:39,930 moment. And the people in the lowlands are always so surprised 2118 02:07:39,930 --> 02:07:43,020 about Texas and well, you live there and you have guns in his 2119 02:07:43,020 --> 02:07:49,050 crazy and right now there is a a way crime wave of liquidation 2120 02:07:49,050 --> 02:07:53,550 happening in the Netherlands by the so called micro mafia. 2121 02:07:54,419 --> 02:07:56,699 Well, I don't know anything about this. This is 2122 02:07:56,700 --> 02:08:04,320 great. Details somewhat sketchy, but people are being killed left 2123 02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:08,070 and right. Cops are taking people's cell phone video and 2124 02:08:08,070 --> 02:08:11,520 pictures away from them at the sign at the scene of the crime. 2125 02:08:12,030 --> 02:08:14,910 And people of course, have no recourse against that in the 2126 02:08:14,910 --> 02:08:17,340 Netherlands, you have no rights you can opt out if 2127 02:08:17,340 --> 02:08:19,830 you're in the Netherlands or anyplace else else for that 2128 02:08:19,830 --> 02:08:22,410 matter. You set up one of those situations where you as you're 2129 02:08:22,410 --> 02:08:25,830 recording a video is sending it to a server. 2130 02:08:26,430 --> 02:08:29,760 I don't have any details on that but you would think that is also 2131 02:08:29,760 --> 02:08:32,490 possible but people just say hey, the cops to be a man they 2132 02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:35,820 they took my phone away maybe made me delete everything. 2133 02:08:37,380 --> 02:08:42,180 Apparently so I think the cops are probably involved in this 2134 02:08:42,180 --> 02:08:45,600 whole thing and Dutch police of the Justice Department has had 2135 02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:52,590 its issues in the past with with many different situations. What 2136 02:08:52,620 --> 02:08:58,560 the police are saying as well. A big shipment of cocaine was 2137 02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:02,430 either stolen or someone didn't deliver or something happened. 2138 02:09:03,210 --> 02:09:06,600 And now it's okay not heroin. Cocaine is what there's well and 2139 02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:10,470 remember that the a couple of weeks ago when I was over there, 2140 02:09:10,830 --> 02:09:15,360 somehow heroin has been laced or white heroin being sold as 2141 02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:18,630 cocaine and and tourists are dying because they think in a 2142 02:09:18,630 --> 02:09:21,180 little little sneaky little trick for the snoot and then 2143 02:09:21,180 --> 02:09:25,740 they stopped breathing. Inhale is heroin and there are signs 2144 02:09:25,740 --> 02:09:28,380 everywhere saying you won't be arrested for doing drugs but 2145 02:09:28,380 --> 02:09:31,440 please you know, be careful there's no bad bad coke out 2146 02:09:31,440 --> 02:09:35,370 there and it's it's actually heroin and you can die. So there 2147 02:09:35,400 --> 02:09:39,120 so maybe maybe that's why the maybe they're substituting 2148 02:09:39,390 --> 02:09:42,330 heroin for the cocaine and of course heroin is much cheaper. 2149 02:09:43,260 --> 02:09:45,690 Much much cheaper right now because it's so we have 2150 02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:51,330 overproduction the cops are saying this is not this is no 2151 02:09:51,330 --> 02:09:55,110 longer about the the missing cocaine so they clearly know 2152 02:09:55,110 --> 02:09:58,110 what's going on. But now all the kingpins are so worried they're 2153 02:09:58,110 --> 02:10:00,780 gonna get killed they decided to take out the other A guy first 2154 02:10:00,900 --> 02:10:05,010 tempted, some innocent woman was just riddled with bullets in 2155 02:10:05,010 --> 02:10:08,280 broad daylight the other day trying to shoot somebody else. 2156 02:10:09,330 --> 02:10:09,780 And 2157 02:10:09,990 --> 02:10:12,870 it's right was trying to shoot somebody else. Now somebody 2158 02:10:12,870 --> 02:10:16,110 somebody was trying to shoot another person and they wound up 2159 02:10:16,110 --> 02:10:22,860 riddling her. Oh, and it is Moroccans and anti aliens that 2160 02:10:22,890 --> 02:10:23,790 if you're from the 2161 02:10:24,630 --> 02:10:27,300 Antilles, and like Antillean I like, like 2162 02:10:27,360 --> 02:10:33,900 reptilian until aliens and also Auto Tone Dutch people so native 2163 02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:39,000 Dutch people and they have a name now the micro mafia moc are 2164 02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:44,940 over the macro mafia. And this is this is taking place, and the 2165 02:10:44,940 --> 02:10:49,950 cops say we don't see this lightening up anytime soon. How 2166 02:10:49,950 --> 02:10:54,630 does that happen with no gun laws and everything so strict 2167 02:10:54,630 --> 02:10:56,640 and all organized and ordered? 2168 02:10:58,050 --> 02:11:01,830 The big question that's the fallacy of use the word again, 2169 02:11:02,130 --> 02:11:07,560 fallacy of gun control. Yeah, you don't get a gun but everyone 2170 02:11:07,560 --> 02:11:11,070 else does. Yeah, please have guns. Criminals have guns but 2171 02:11:11,070 --> 02:11:11,820 you don't get one. 2172 02:11:12,180 --> 02:11:13,920 Let's take a quick break here. I want to do some other video. 2173 02:11:14,310 --> 02:11:17,760 I'm gonna show my son moved by donate to no agenda. Imagine all 2174 02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:20,340 the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun 2175 02:11:27,420 --> 02:11:28,260 for women, very 2176 02:11:28,260 --> 02:11:28,890 few people. 2177 02:11:29,730 --> 02:11:32,610 I was actually I was gonna say before we thank the few people 2178 02:11:32,610 --> 02:11:35,910 who donated I have two things to mention one. We got a lovely 2179 02:11:35,910 --> 02:11:39,330 note from Vicki pool. Did you get the handwritten note in the 2180 02:11:39,330 --> 02:11:46,350 PIO box? Vicki pool who is her note here? Yes, the dame and she 2181 02:11:46,350 --> 02:11:48,720 sent I think she sent one to you as well. 2182 02:11:48,840 --> 02:11:51,360 Didn't I read in the last show? I 2183 02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:54,030 did you read it which I may we 2184 02:11:54,030 --> 02:11:56,850 might have talked about or she made a type written version and 2185 02:11:56,850 --> 02:11:57,540 yeah, I'm 2186 02:11:57,540 --> 02:12:00,120 sorry. We did talk about that. I liked it because I finally got 2187 02:12:00,120 --> 02:12:03,660 my envelope with this you know the the sealing wax and her 2188 02:12:03,660 --> 02:12:07,860 nitrate Dame ring in there. We also got a note from Angela 2189 02:12:07,860 --> 02:12:12,810 Kubera. Do Adam and Donna wanted to let you know I have received 2190 02:12:12,810 --> 02:12:16,410 a note and gift card from a no agenda listener. They sent it 2191 02:12:16,410 --> 02:12:20,010 anonymously but the envelope had ITM written all over it and the 2192 02:12:20,010 --> 02:12:26,370 return address was 33 Bingo Boom shakalaka so I knew it came from 2193 02:12:26,430 --> 02:12:29,250 the no agenda family a very nice gesture I thank them for it. 2194 02:12:29,490 --> 02:12:32,340 They must live in my area or somewhere near as the note came 2195 02:12:32,340 --> 02:12:34,710 through Phoenix where all of our mail goes through as well. The 2196 02:12:34,710 --> 02:12:37,080 no agenda listeners are super people after what they did for 2197 02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:42,990 my husband. As you know, her husband passed away Tom and he 2198 02:12:42,990 --> 02:12:45,930 was made a night posthumously after what they did from a 2199 02:12:45,930 --> 02:12:48,300 husband now this you should be proud you have such a giving and 2200 02:12:48,300 --> 02:12:51,630 terrific audience. I'm proud to be part of the no agenda family. 2201 02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:54,960 Merry Christmas, Angela Canberra. So that was very nice. 2202 02:12:56,010 --> 02:13:00,090 That yeah, that is that route is fantastic. Really is 2203 02:13:00,960 --> 02:13:03,270 another one I was looking at last year spreadsheet for the 2204 02:13:03,270 --> 02:13:07,020 same time. I noticed a lot of names on there that are not I'm 2205 02:13:07,020 --> 02:13:09,450 not seeing anymore. I think we lose people. 2206 02:13:09,630 --> 02:13:12,030 Oh, I'm sure we do. And I think I think your assertion is right 2207 02:13:12,030 --> 02:13:17,310 I think people get sucked back into the news than the 2208 02:13:17,310 --> 02:13:21,960 mainstream news it's it's become somewhat compelling. And you 2209 02:13:21,990 --> 02:13:24,120 regular rehydration. Come on. 2210 02:13:24,270 --> 02:13:27,990 It's you watch the news. And if you're not like if you don't 2211 02:13:27,990 --> 02:13:30,870 have to do this show or you're you don't listen to the show, 2212 02:13:30,990 --> 02:13:35,490 this show, which tries to identify the the gotcha memes, 2213 02:13:36,270 --> 02:13:40,740 you could easily just drift back into just the life of the 2214 02:13:40,740 --> 02:13:50,880 sinner. That's what it is. I'm a sinner, I tell you, life of a 2215 02:13:50,880 --> 02:13:54,480 sinner. You're just watching this crazy guys do all work for 2216 02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:57,150 somebody else. That double dipping guy knows how much money 2217 02:13:57,150 --> 02:13:59,730 some of these people making that and by the way, when I saw this 2218 02:13:59,730 --> 02:14:05,400 crap, all these guys with the same talking points. I realized 2219 02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:08,490 that that's why some of these people got these jobs. I mean, 2220 02:14:08,490 --> 02:14:12,840 it's like, was it Woodward? Bernstein? Woodward, you know, 2221 02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:15,780 who was Navy intelligence and they moved him in because 2222 02:14:15,780 --> 02:14:19,530 somebody suggested he worked there and some there's a lot of 2223 02:14:19,530 --> 02:14:26,130 no talents. Especially at Fox. That pay get paid quite a bit. 2224 02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:28,410 look good. They all got the right haircut. 2225 02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:34,830 Some of them do. I think a few of them. I'm not going to. This 2226 02:14:34,830 --> 02:14:37,980 may be a little bit going out on a limb. I think some of the 2227 02:14:37,980 --> 02:14:43,110 women at Fox are just really good look and trannys 2228 02:14:45,240 --> 02:14:47,280 Wow, and you complain about my cameras. 2229 02:14:48,360 --> 02:14:51,930 Rick Olson in Ellensburg, Washington 100. Do you get to 2230 02:14:51,930 --> 02:14:54,360 figure this out for yourself by the way, just think about it 2231 02:14:54,390 --> 02:14:55,710 when you see one of these guys. 2232 02:14:56,040 --> 02:14:59,970 Very disparaging name by the way you transsexual that's fancy 2233 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:01,110 transgender? 2234 02:15:01,230 --> 02:15:04,560 I'm sorry, I'd use the word that word. I won't use it anymore. 2235 02:15:04,710 --> 02:15:08,250 Cut that one discuss it anymore. 199 99 from Ellensburg. 2236 02:15:08,250 --> 02:15:12,810 Washington, Rick Olson. But when you look at some of these women, 2237 02:15:12,810 --> 02:15:14,760 she's thinking, is that possibly a guy? 2238 02:15:14,940 --> 02:15:17,040 Well, I'm Ann Coulter I've always 2239 02:15:17,580 --> 02:15:21,390 I don't think so not I wouldn't put her on the list. I'm going 2240 02:15:21,390 --> 02:15:25,200 to cut to the chase here says Rick. devalue your show has 2241 02:15:25,200 --> 02:15:27,450 provided me these last few years of listening to seize my 2242 02:15:27,450 --> 02:15:29,760 monetary donations to this point. And for that, I 2243 02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:34,470 apologize. Anyway, he becomes a knight today. Yes, sir. And now 2244 02:15:34,470 --> 02:15:36,030 we have done that hadn't done 2245 02:15:36,060 --> 02:15:38,520 that. Wait a minute. No, wait a minute. Wait a minute. He 2246 02:15:38,520 --> 02:15:41,610 becomes a knight we should at least do his his request here. I 2247 02:15:41,610 --> 02:15:44,190 mean, it's not like the list is so long. The second it's gonna 2248 02:15:44,190 --> 02:15:44,430 take 2249 02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:49,170 199 99 Because he didn't necessarily wait. He does ask. 2250 02:15:49,170 --> 02:15:49,230 He 2251 02:15:49,230 --> 02:15:51,930 says yeah, he says he wants a deep douching he wants an Atlas 2252 02:15:51,930 --> 02:15:59,850 Shrugged and a karma. Can we do that? Yeah. You've been de 2253 02:15:59,850 --> 02:16:00,570 deuced? 2254 02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:13,440 By ein Rand. You've got karma. I figured that would be okay. You 2255 02:16:13,440 --> 02:16:14,010 did that. 2256 02:16:25,950 --> 02:16:30,570 I was ready for it. I guess you were I was wrong. I was 2257 02:16:30,570 --> 02:16:33,330 expecting you weren't ready for it. One to seven. Well, 2258 02:16:33,660 --> 02:16:37,890 well, Eric has done something nifty. He's, yeah. He's, he's 2259 02:16:37,890 --> 02:16:43,740 highlighted. It would be arrow flashing. The blink with the 2260 02:16:43,740 --> 02:16:45,600 blink tag, blink thing, which 2261 02:16:45,600 --> 02:16:46,560 I think still works. 2262 02:16:47,250 --> 02:16:49,710 I don't know if the blink tag works on every browser. 2263 02:16:49,739 --> 02:16:56,759 127 14. Belgium. He's the guy. He's our Grand Duke of Belgium 2264 02:16:56,759 --> 02:17:02,069 and France. As of today, and appropriate donation, excuse me 2265 02:17:02,069 --> 02:17:08,129 have to be p it you? Especially 12 plus seven plus 14 adds up to 2266 02:17:08,129 --> 02:17:09,359 and I get nothing here. 2267 02:17:09,690 --> 02:17:12,330 I think it would be 3333 Yeah, 2268 02:17:12,360 --> 02:17:14,250 I think not keep up the great work. 2269 02:17:14,279 --> 02:17:16,139 Thank you very much. Grand Duke. 2270 02:17:17,969 --> 02:17:25,289 Thank you, Randy Duke David, Donald Barofsky in. Who is W A 2271 02:17:25,289 --> 02:17:31,979 600 Am I 70 threes Burroughs keys 12345 and he hasn't sent a 2272 02:17:31,979 --> 02:17:36,539 note in on United Federation of Planets stationery. 2273 02:17:37,170 --> 02:17:38,370 What is this? 2274 02:17:38,969 --> 02:17:42,029 So he sent a note in on the United Federation of Planets 2275 02:17:42,029 --> 02:17:47,759 stationery, and he's a ham and obviously is a trekker so we 2276 02:17:47,759 --> 02:17:51,599 know what okay, it's a tricky get it. I got it. Yeah. It says 2277 02:17:51,599 --> 02:17:56,549 Starfleet Command through atomic rod turned me onto your show. 2278 02:17:56,579 --> 02:18:00,599 Aha, there you go via his podcast atomic insights. That's 2279 02:18:00,599 --> 02:18:05,489 right. I have listened to half a dozen shows. And now I'm hooked 2280 02:18:05,579 --> 02:18:14,729 Nice. Here's my contribution to keep it going. At eights John 2281 02:18:14,729 --> 02:18:19,169 Knowles in Murfreesboro. I never know if I ever pronounced that 2282 02:18:19,170 --> 02:18:21,510 right Murphy Murphy Murfreesboro. 2283 02:18:22,620 --> 02:18:24,930 I don't know Hunter Lemondogs lemons since that's in Tennessee 2284 02:18:24,930 --> 02:18:31,080 Dan. Daniel J Breck Jr. in Pasadena Maryland. I mentioned 2285 02:18:31,080 --> 02:18:34,800 that no agenda is excellent is informative and entertaining 2286 02:18:34,830 --> 02:18:36,060 nothing else like it? 2287 02:18:37,080 --> 02:18:41,190 We well there's there's a good look and trainings at Fox 2288 02:18:43,080 --> 02:18:45,930 you just have to wonder that one in particular is finally you 2289 02:18:45,930 --> 02:18:49,800 know just interesting. Once you get it in your brain, you can't 2290 02:18:51,360 --> 02:18:58,320 really all right nonnamous in leechburg, Pennsylvania at 910 2291 02:19:00,120 --> 02:19:02,520 He got around to canceling his audible subscription and 2292 02:19:02,520 --> 02:19:07,470 diverting the money to a better cause to make up for time 2293 02:19:07,470 --> 02:19:11,340 between when I decided and when I finally set it up sorry for 2294 02:19:11,340 --> 02:19:15,840 the delay and Merry Christmas in tele armor LLC in Portland 2295 02:19:15,840 --> 02:19:18,480 Oregon. And by the way, I wanted to go to the site to see what it 2296 02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:23,850 is they do. Would it be a surprise check out at 728 are 2297 02:19:23,850 --> 02:19:28,200 more.com Yeah Intel armor.com 2298 02:19:28,230 --> 02:19:31,020 armor a are you are 2299 02:19:31,050 --> 02:19:33,030 and he makes it here's the thing you gotta get ready for the 2300 02:19:33,030 --> 02:19:36,750 button. Mark McEvoy's birthday was yesterday and he's a douche 2301 02:19:36,750 --> 02:19:37,260 bag. 2302 02:19:37,799 --> 02:19:44,429 Boy, okay. Killer armor. Advanced screen protection. No, 2303 02:19:44,429 --> 02:19:47,669 that's not at all what I thought it would be. And that must be 2304 02:19:47,699 --> 02:19:49,649 that can't be the right one. Hold on. What is this? Yeah, it 2305 02:19:49,649 --> 02:19:50,789 is until the armor Yeah, 2306 02:19:51,180 --> 02:19:53,700 sure. Brian William and Streamwood Illinois. 2307 02:19:53,700 --> 02:19:59,970 70 370-373-7373 is time Aaron. He's in St. Agnes South 2308 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:04,230 Australia 63 with some job cover for him at the end and everybody 2309 02:20:04,230 --> 02:20:09,030 will get some nice small world designs Prescott, Arizona 5678. 2310 02:20:09,360 --> 02:20:12,420 And there he is Sir Tomic rod Adams himself he 2311 02:20:12,750 --> 02:20:15,990 did the 555 his birthday of course they coming up now. 2312 02:20:18,150 --> 02:20:22,170 Excuse me. He says he liked the pot and kettle segment, but how 2313 02:20:22,170 --> 02:20:25,050 to large countries use the media to spread propaganda messages to 2314 02:20:25,050 --> 02:20:28,170 the public. Please add me to the birthday lists you're on. You're 2315 02:20:28,170 --> 02:20:37,110 on rod. Michael asked. Asked Falk. I guess asked for 2316 02:20:37,110 --> 02:20:42,300 crossfire Park is folic acid Farland Deutschland 5533 Loving 2317 02:20:42,300 --> 02:20:44,520 the Berliners just enough Berliners we should do a meet 2318 02:20:44,520 --> 02:20:49,320 up. Kevin deal is Charlotte North Carolina. 5510 Shawn Gates 2319 02:20:49,320 --> 02:20:56,940 and Paul Yap. I'm Paul up is always pronounced by the way to 2320 02:20:56,940 --> 02:21:01,470 wall of Washington to the 510 point gap. It's good. I'm 2321 02:21:01,470 --> 02:21:07,020 thinking of the wine. wall up. David Grisanti in Denver, 2322 02:21:07,020 --> 02:21:14,820 Colorado. 5288 William Bowman of Port port. Why Nimi California 2323 02:21:14,820 --> 02:21:18,900 50. And these are all 50s Paul Vela in Milton Keynes, UK. 2324 02:21:19,140 --> 02:21:24,360 Antonio McMullen Parts Unknown David Pete, Aubrey, Texas, John 2325 02:21:24,360 --> 02:21:32,820 Vanderlaan, and ACEN Drent renter train tour. Kyle kicker 2326 02:21:32,850 --> 02:21:38,040 Kinzel in Green Bay, Wisconsin got green bat on here. And it 2327 02:21:38,040 --> 02:21:41,070 which is a good name for town. And finally, last but not least, 2328 02:21:41,250 --> 02:21:46,620 David Michael in Edmond, Oklahoma. And there is a note 2329 02:21:46,620 --> 02:21:51,420 from Kyle it says And yeah, I think there is where might it 2330 02:21:51,420 --> 02:22:00,930 be? No, I don't have chi put the cows note is over there with 2331 02:22:00,930 --> 02:22:02,670 Paul's no or Pierce's? No, no. What 2332 02:22:02,670 --> 02:22:07,200 do you think Wolf Blitzer. Can wolf help? Wolf can 2333 02:22:07,200 --> 02:22:10,890 help and help. So you can send me another note. Now we'll slip 2334 02:22:10,890 --> 02:22:13,500 it in. I do know from some anonymous person which I should 2335 02:22:13,500 --> 02:22:20,550 read. Okay. This is the letter D. He's first I heard about no 2336 02:22:20,550 --> 02:22:24,420 agenda was when John was a gifted guest on this week and 2337 02:22:24,450 --> 02:22:27,720 phones. It says are you 2338 02:22:27,720 --> 02:22:29,730 on this week in phones this week? Yes, I'm 2339 02:22:29,730 --> 02:22:36,270 on this week in phones good. When I made the switch to no 2340 02:22:36,270 --> 02:22:41,550 agenda, I hope it opened my mind to the to the more critically 2341 02:22:41,550 --> 02:22:45,540 not to not simply dismiss the media think more critically not 2342 02:22:45,570 --> 02:22:51,000 to Okay, I can't read it. It's impossible. But he's a very nice 2343 02:22:51,000 --> 02:22:57,150 guy. And he says, best of luck. That is it for our show here. Of 2344 02:22:57,180 --> 02:23:00,150 677. We hope it picks up a little bit or a lot. 2345 02:23:00,480 --> 02:23:04,440 It should pick up more. Yeah. And I will be making what you're 2346 02:23:04,440 --> 02:23:06,690 saying is year over year, we're down over last year. 2347 02:23:07,200 --> 02:23:11,250 On this down to December all the December shows are down from 2348 02:23:11,250 --> 02:23:16,230 last year. So either people are all partying at Christmas 2349 02:23:16,230 --> 02:23:20,100 parties, which I don't see any evidence of or they're depressed 2350 02:23:20,130 --> 02:23:22,290 broke or that mediums suck them back. 2351 02:23:22,320 --> 02:23:25,260 I think either way, I'm there with you. I'm thinking a lot of 2352 02:23:25,260 --> 02:23:29,070 people have been sad. They'll come back. But please hurry. 2353 02:23:30,600 --> 02:23:32,880 Well, they're not listening. So are you telling him to come 2354 02:23:32,880 --> 02:23:34,230 back? So I gotta do any good? 2355 02:23:34,470 --> 02:23:38,190 Well, I'm just hoping I'm hopeful about their philandering 2356 02:23:38,190 --> 02:23:38,700 ways 2357 02:23:38,730 --> 02:23:41,430 maybe it's possible that you can only take so much of the no 2358 02:23:41,430 --> 02:23:42,570 agenda show. Oh, 2359 02:23:42,630 --> 02:23:43,680 I'm there. 2360 02:23:46,200 --> 02:23:50,250 for.org/jobs 2361 02:23:50,400 --> 02:23:54,630 jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 2362 02:23:56,640 --> 02:23:59,520 As your economy everybody thank you very much for your support 2363 02:24:06,810 --> 02:24:10,740 we say happy birthday to Shan Shan Aloka Boom shaka laka locka 2364 02:24:10,740 --> 02:24:15,330 he turns 47 Today sir atomic rod Adams turning 55 Happy Birthday 2365 02:24:15,330 --> 02:24:18,540 Sir Roger you Shawn Gates's Happy birthday to my home and 2366 02:24:18,540 --> 02:24:23,370 Muhammad of Sumner Washington turning 24 today, and Scott 2367 02:24:23,370 --> 02:24:26,070 Hamilton says Happy Birthday to his son Matthew Hamilton. He 2368 02:24:26,070 --> 02:24:29,610 turns 18 Happy birthday. And many best wishes from all your 2369 02:24:29,610 --> 02:24:32,100 buddies here from the staff man and for the best podcast in the 2370 02:24:32,100 --> 02:24:39,930 universe. And then we have Rick Olson who came in with 199 99 2371 02:24:39,930 --> 02:24:46,860 and he's been he has been saving up for his knighthood and we're 2372 02:24:46,860 --> 02:24:50,340 very happy that he is reached the table that is round and 2373 02:24:50,340 --> 02:24:54,270 we're going to induct him with a ceremony and get John's Whoa. 2374 02:24:55,260 --> 02:25:01,440 Did you do a boy thank goodness I recall so come on out man. 2375 02:25:01,440 --> 02:25:04,380 Thank you very much for your support. And you might have 2376 02:25:04,380 --> 02:25:07,890 $1,000 or more that brings you into the covenant roundtable. 2377 02:25:07,890 --> 02:25:11,280 The Knights in the Dames and I hear by at your requests 2378 02:25:11,280 --> 02:25:14,790 pronounced the cane you, sir Rick Knight have an origin table 2379 02:25:14,790 --> 02:25:16,890 for you. We've got hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay, 2380 02:25:16,890 --> 02:25:20,400 malted barley and hops, poppies and Taylor's vintage port bad 2381 02:25:20,400 --> 02:25:23,190 science and perky breasts cannabis and Cabernet grey 2382 02:25:23,190 --> 02:25:25,530 Geisha has been a bucket of fried chicken hot pan some 2383 02:25:25,530 --> 02:25:28,290 booze, wenches and beer Rubenesque lemon and Rosae vodka 2384 02:25:28,290 --> 02:25:30,810 and vanilla bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and 2385 02:25:30,810 --> 02:25:33,420 escorts and of course we always have the mutton in mead at the 2386 02:25:33,420 --> 02:25:38,010 end of the list go to no agenda nation.com/rings And we'll make 2387 02:25:38,010 --> 02:25:41,580 sure that we hook you up and please tweet a picture. We've 2388 02:25:41,580 --> 02:25:44,580 had a couple people doing that so we can retweet it's nice it's 2389 02:25:44,580 --> 02:25:48,240 a nice little package you get and it's real this is real This 2390 02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:51,870 isn't you know, we have periods we have a map we have a system 2391 02:25:52,110 --> 02:25:54,330 and one day also be uncovered 2392 02:25:55,470 --> 02:25:57,150 right when we take over the place 2393 02:25:58,109 --> 02:26:02,339 someone's gonna have to take over the place I got a note 2394 02:26:03,539 --> 02:26:07,949 whenever we start talking about the Van Allen belts and all that 2395 02:26:07,949 --> 02:26:08,549 stuff and 2396 02:26:08,940 --> 02:26:11,250 the Van Allen belt here we go. 2397 02:26:12,420 --> 02:26:18,150 I was going to say that NASA has discovered a new Radiation Belt 2398 02:26:19,050 --> 02:26:23,910 another one outside of the Van Allen belt or at the at the edge 2399 02:26:24,480 --> 02:26:28,860 and it was funny to read that they have a they actually 2400 02:26:28,860 --> 02:26:32,550 address the Van Allen belt issue with it is Orion went through 2401 02:26:32,550 --> 02:26:37,440 the Van Allen belt which of course was only previously done 2402 02:26:37,440 --> 02:26:43,380 by the Apollo missions when they went to the moon. And and they 2403 02:26:43,380 --> 02:26:45,750 had and there's specifically about the Van Allen belts I put 2404 02:26:45,750 --> 02:26:52,770 it in the show notes. It's a good their version of why this 2405 02:26:52,770 --> 02:26:55,830 is not a hoax. They even say it. Don't people think this is a 2406 02:26:55,830 --> 02:26:58,470 hoax. We never went through the Van Allen belt. I don't know why 2407 02:26:58,470 --> 02:27:02,730 you have to protest it that much. But okay. Radiation levels 2408 02:27:02,730 --> 02:27:05,160 traveling 15 times farther into space and the International 2409 02:27:05,160 --> 02:27:08,070 Space Station will take Orion beyond the radiation protection 2410 02:27:08,070 --> 02:27:11,670 offered by Earth's atmosphere magnetic field. In fact, the 2411 02:27:11,670 --> 02:27:15,900 majority of EFT one will take place inside the Van Allen belt 2412 02:27:15,900 --> 02:27:19,590 clouds of heavy radiation that surrounds earth. No spacecraft 2413 02:27:19,590 --> 02:27:22,050 built for humans has passed through the Van Allen belts 2414 02:27:22,080 --> 02:27:25,980 since the Apollo mission. And even those only pass through the 2415 02:27:25,980 --> 02:27:29,400 belts because they didn't linger. I just thought that was 2416 02:27:29,400 --> 02:27:35,130 a cute way of saying it. There's your scientific answer as to why 2417 02:27:35,610 --> 02:27:37,740 it was okay for the Apollo missions because they didn't 2418 02:27:37,740 --> 02:27:41,730 linger in the belts they did not linger and they went through and 2419 02:27:41,730 --> 02:27:47,580 I got this email the secure email. So I this is an anonymous 2420 02:27:47,580 --> 02:27:50,730 on the last show you were talking about missing Saturn V 2421 02:27:51,000 --> 02:27:56,520 blueprints. And this is part of the what makes the original Moon 2422 02:27:56,520 --> 02:28:00,210 Landing so complicated. So it makes you suspicious 2423 02:28:00,240 --> 02:28:04,740 among other things, and we're sure granted baffles me because 2424 02:28:04,740 --> 02:28:07,170 on the one hand while you're suspicious about this, you have 2425 02:28:07,170 --> 02:28:10,290 no issues with but Moon bases. 2426 02:28:10,320 --> 02:28:14,040 So no because we have we have this is just about the original 2427 02:28:14,040 --> 02:28:18,750 moon landings. Okay. I presume that that we have figured out 2428 02:28:18,750 --> 02:28:23,070 how to not linger in the belts. No, this is just a part of the 2429 02:28:23,130 --> 02:28:28,290 all the original Moon Landing video material has been erased, 2430 02:28:28,380 --> 02:28:33,030 unfortunately. But also all of the blueprints have disappeared 2431 02:28:33,210 --> 02:28:37,200 of the the actual rocket the lander all of this stuff is 2432 02:28:37,200 --> 02:28:40,920 gone. It's just sad, sad, sad don't doesn't help with people 2433 02:28:40,920 --> 02:28:43,470 who are of conspiratorial minded thinking. 2434 02:28:43,500 --> 02:28:47,670 No, I wouldn't think so. Because it seems to me, and I'm not of 2435 02:28:47,670 --> 02:28:50,880 the conspiratorial mind except when it comes to the some of the 2436 02:28:50,880 --> 02:28:57,390 women on Fox. It seems to me that this is one of the most 2437 02:28:57,390 --> 02:29:02,070 historic events in the history of mankind. This is like 2438 02:29:02,250 --> 02:29:03,600 Christopher Columbus. 2439 02:29:03,630 --> 02:29:07,380 I mean, we can save every tweet yet. We don't have the the Bloop 2440 02:29:07,440 --> 02:29:12,330 I should say Saturn five I should say not V five. You 2441 02:29:12,330 --> 02:29:14,370 should have corrected me on that. The Saturday 2442 02:29:14,460 --> 02:29:16,860 I kind of zoned out go on. 2443 02:29:17,310 --> 02:29:24,000 Sure you do. But 15 years ago, I was working on an IT contract at 2444 02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:27,360 the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama. This is 2445 02:29:27,360 --> 02:29:30,540 where the Saturn five was designed. The IT department had 2446 02:29:30,540 --> 02:29:33,510 just moved into an old building that had previously housed 2447 02:29:33,510 --> 02:29:37,290 engineering. Now the story I was told is that when engineering 2448 02:29:37,290 --> 02:29:40,170 left to move into the new headquarters, they left behind 2449 02:29:40,170 --> 02:29:43,350 many old filing cabinets including the kind used to store 2450 02:29:43,350 --> 02:29:48,630 large drawings. You know the kind it needed the space and 2451 02:29:48,630 --> 02:29:51,420 called engineering to come and get the cabinets engineering 2452 02:29:51,420 --> 02:29:54,270 said the cabinets were no longer needed and could be disposed 2453 02:29:54,270 --> 02:29:58,200 off. They were hauled out to the dumpster. A few weeks later, a 2454 02:29:58,200 --> 02:30:01,170 frantic engineer came back asked In the whereabouts of the old 2455 02:30:01,170 --> 02:30:04,200 cabinets and said they contain rocket and spacecraft designs 2456 02:30:04,200 --> 02:30:09,540 from the 50s and 60s, too late, they were gone. I think this, 2457 02:30:09,720 --> 02:30:11,370 this answers the question. 2458 02:30:12,570 --> 02:30:16,980 That is the biggest bogus story I've ever heard. Oh, yeah, it 2459 02:30:16,980 --> 02:30:19,740 just throw it away. Now I don't think so then by the way, it's 2460 02:30:19,740 --> 02:30:24,390 not as though people don't do this. And I'm reminded of a 2461 02:30:24,390 --> 02:30:29,760 friend of mine, who used to work at Dell publishing. And so he's 2462 02:30:29,760 --> 02:30:33,840 going out, he's going home, and he's noticing that dude goes, or 2463 02:30:33,840 --> 02:30:35,400 he's at a warehouse or something. Whatever the case, 2464 02:30:35,400 --> 02:30:39,330 he's noticing these, these guys taking piles and piles of 2465 02:30:39,360 --> 02:30:43,740 artwork and throwing it in the dumpster. Original alley oop 2466 02:30:43,740 --> 02:30:48,630 cartoons, all kinds of book cover cartoons, not cartoons, 2467 02:30:48,630 --> 02:30:51,870 but oil paintings that they use in book covers, like Hitchcock 2468 02:30:51,870 --> 02:30:55,890 mysteries and the rest. And so he asked the guy by psi are 2469 02:30:55,890 --> 02:30:58,950 throwing this stuff out. We're not just what good is it? So he 2470 02:30:58,950 --> 02:31:02,340 scrounge as much as he could to fill his trunk and his back seat 2471 02:31:02,340 --> 02:31:05,070 full width would probably amounts to a couple $100,000 2472 02:31:05,070 --> 02:31:08,130 worth of stuff. If he was to auction it off. He gave me about 2473 02:31:08,130 --> 02:31:12,990 four pieces, including a nice Hitchcock car. Cool. And it's 2474 02:31:12,990 --> 02:31:17,580 just as this happens, it's like I was at Tech TV. And I was 2475 02:31:17,610 --> 02:31:21,450 walking around and there was a big giant box of tapes. And I 2476 02:31:21,450 --> 02:31:24,210 looked at it said silicone on spin. I said, What's this? 2477 02:31:24,480 --> 02:31:29,100 Because that's the first couple years of silicone spin. Why? 2478 02:31:29,130 --> 02:31:32,850 What are you doing with it? We're throwing it out. And the 2479 02:31:33,240 --> 02:31:36,570 TV people are notorious for throwing stuff out. And so I 2480 02:31:36,570 --> 02:31:38,940 said, I'll take it, I took it home, it's in the basement. 2481 02:31:38,970 --> 02:31:44,130 Yeah, one day you're going to be found delved under a mountain of 2482 02:31:44,130 --> 02:31:45,510 crap, including these tapes. 2483 02:31:45,600 --> 02:31:49,650 It's in the basement. Anyway, the point is that it actually 2484 02:31:50,250 --> 02:31:54,330 doesn't surprise me that someone would be so careless, not 2485 02:31:54,330 --> 02:31:57,000 thinking clearly. For example, the artwork, I suppose you 2486 02:31:57,000 --> 02:32:00,180 couldn't sell the Dell artwork, because it was probably still 2487 02:32:00,180 --> 02:32:03,180 owned by the artists. They use. Most people steal stuff from 2488 02:32:03,180 --> 02:32:07,230 artists. And they can't really sell it because the artist owns 2489 02:32:07,230 --> 02:32:09,900 it. So they just throw it out, instead of giving it to the 2490 02:32:09,900 --> 02:32:12,840 employees or whatever. Just giving it to bums on this chair. 2491 02:32:12,840 --> 02:32:14,970 I don't know what you do with it. Whatever the case is, I 2492 02:32:14,970 --> 02:32:16,890 think it's possible. But it seems to me that if I was 2493 02:32:16,890 --> 02:32:20,130 working anywhere around there, I grabbed those plans. Personally, 2494 02:32:20,250 --> 02:32:22,500 I'd love to have some old I think 2495 02:32:22,530 --> 02:32:24,690 I think they just did not know that they were in there. I don't 2496 02:32:24,690 --> 02:32:26,910 think anyone looked at the plans. I just tossed them out. 2497 02:32:26,940 --> 02:32:33,690 That's probably true. Dominique Strauss Kahn made a kind of the 2498 02:32:33,690 --> 02:32:36,780 story. Yeah, that's I'm done. Yeah. Yeah. You just mock me. 2499 02:32:36,870 --> 02:32:37,380 All right. 2500 02:32:37,470 --> 02:32:40,230 I didn't mock you. I thought it was I was trying to explain how 2501 02:32:40,230 --> 02:32:43,170 this could possibly happen. Now how they why they erased the 2502 02:32:43,170 --> 02:32:45,600 tapes of the moon landing even though it's one of 2503 02:32:45,600 --> 02:32:48,240 them. Oh, you said it yourself. Television. People are careless, 2504 02:32:48,510 --> 02:32:56,040 careless. Dominique Strauss Kahn, is set to become head of 2505 02:32:56,040 --> 02:32:58,140 the National Bank of Ukraine. 2506 02:32:59,940 --> 02:33:03,660 Holy crap. 10.5 To the day 2507 02:33:03,660 --> 02:33:08,550 think anybody needs needs to be made whole somehow. Hey, man, I 2508 02:33:08,550 --> 02:33:10,950 will put you back at the bottom of the rung here there. 2509 02:33:11,760 --> 02:33:14,340 We're really sorry about that. Hold on your main thing that 2510 02:33:14,340 --> 02:33:17,010 didn't really happen, you know, but we had to get Christine 2511 02:33:17,010 --> 02:33:20,580 Lagarde and you see Fifi Lagarde. Now we're really sorry 2512 02:33:20,580 --> 02:33:24,510 punishment. It could also be Victor you should you Shenko 2513 02:33:24,540 --> 02:33:29,130 which will be even funnier. But we'll see. Poroshenko the 2514 02:33:29,160 --> 02:33:33,840 President has now instructed Ukrainian Secret Service to 2515 02:33:33,840 --> 02:33:37,110 crack down on media outlets criticizing the country's 2516 02:33:37,140 --> 02:33:40,260 government because of course they are receiving funding from 2517 02:33:40,260 --> 02:33:44,940 Russia and have a special anti Ukrainian mission which is the 2518 02:33:44,940 --> 02:33:48,630 Neo imperialist who want to destabilize Ukrainian state from 2519 02:33:48,630 --> 02:33:55,950 within and they can only be anti state elements and spies have 2520 02:33:55,950 --> 02:33:57,600 Kremlin's fifth column. 2521 02:33:59,400 --> 02:34:01,350 Yeah, yeah, that sounds right. 2522 02:34:02,700 --> 02:34:07,470 It does. It does sound does sound right. And we have our own 2523 02:34:07,560 --> 02:34:15,270 interesting changes here. In our media space. i It's kind of it's 2524 02:34:15,270 --> 02:34:19,350 become an obsession just to keep looking what sheer drive my car 2525 02:34:19,350 --> 02:34:24,150 and ER is doing. And we had, we already knew he had hired Andy 2526 02:34:24,150 --> 02:34:26,340 Carvin. He is the 2527 02:34:26,400 --> 02:34:30,240 the side wanted to bring this up. How Yeah, your buddy. Yeah, 2528 02:34:30,630 --> 02:34:34,860 he had, of course, Andy Carvin who calls himself a news disc 2529 02:34:34,860 --> 02:34:39,060 jockey by tweeting and retweeting tweets, which to me 2530 02:34:39,060 --> 02:34:44,070 is completely useless. I really don't know he was heralded I 2531 02:34:44,070 --> 02:34:47,220 think he took the NPR buyout didn't wasn't there a buyout he 2532 02:34:47,220 --> 02:34:49,080 had they were trying to get rid of people have no idea it's 2533 02:34:49,080 --> 02:34:56,940 possible. So he has started a social media reporting team. For 2534 02:34:56,940 --> 02:35:02,850 first look media, which is now being hosted on medium. And 2535 02:35:02,850 --> 02:35:06,150 they're called they're calling themselves reported ly reported 2536 02:35:06,180 --> 02:35:11,700 dot L Y. And because it's on medium, they have an RSS feed. 2537 02:35:11,700 --> 02:35:12,180 So I'm, 2538 02:35:12,509 --> 02:35:15,899 I'm, yeah, good luck, dad. We got anything on there. 2539 02:35:15,929 --> 02:35:18,749 No, there's nothing on there. But they're introducing 2540 02:35:18,749 --> 02:35:22,079 themselves. He has the so he's hired this team, and this is 2541 02:35:22,199 --> 02:35:25,949 Marina Petrillo, who on December nights at the view from Italy, 2542 02:35:26,489 --> 02:35:29,009 and talking about how great this is going to be. There's no other 2543 02:35:29,009 --> 02:35:33,599 place I want to be right now. And this is what really, really 2544 02:35:33,599 --> 02:35:33,959 brought 2545 02:35:35,310 --> 02:35:38,040 my friend from what are you doing? Nothing I'd be hit a 2546 02:35:38,040 --> 02:35:38,580 button. Oh. 2547 02:35:39,750 --> 02:35:42,570 Andy put together a team that relies on professionality 2548 02:35:42,570 --> 02:35:46,140 experience and a passionate love for social journalism, which 2549 02:35:46,140 --> 02:35:50,130 we're calling native journalism, but also have on diversity and a 2550 02:35:50,130 --> 02:35:54,780 touch of quirkiness, community service context, Discovery 2551 02:35:54,960 --> 02:35:58,530 presents narration begin of being 2552 02:35:58,590 --> 02:36:01,380 this guy really has a line of bull crap here comes 2553 02:36:02,790 --> 02:36:06,480 being a flexible experience and caring team will hopefully 2554 02:36:06,480 --> 02:36:10,410 enable us to be where we are more needed. We're a startup. 2555 02:36:10,650 --> 02:36:11,970 We're a band 2556 02:36:14,970 --> 02:36:16,050 Holy crap. 2557 02:36:16,769 --> 02:36:19,139 I know. You're not a band. 2558 02:36:19,710 --> 02:36:23,550 You are nine repeat after me. And have a band of people 2559 02:36:23,580 --> 02:36:26,970 they know they they think that like the rock and roll you see 2560 02:36:27,000 --> 02:36:29,730 Yeah, no, that's what he did a rock and roll on. Yeah, it's 2561 02:36:29,730 --> 02:36:34,080 total bull crap. Well, this is the kind of thing that happens 2562 02:36:34,080 --> 02:36:34,830 when people get 2563 02:36:36,210 --> 02:36:42,510 so kind of self aware and in a mega that kind of may make Louis 2564 02:36:42,690 --> 02:36:46,350 in the in the Netherlands we have a saying for this. You'd 2565 02:36:46,350 --> 02:36:50,370 like the Dutch sayings, don't you? I do over at parts of tilt. 2566 02:36:51,960 --> 02:36:55,620 Which means listed up so high to get on the horse that he's going 2567 02:36:55,620 --> 02:36:56,880 to fall off on the other side. 2568 02:36:57,419 --> 02:37:00,479 Well, I'm going to point the finger at set you know the one 2569 02:37:00,479 --> 02:37:03,659 of the I think the top show on Fox now is Megan Kelly's new 2570 02:37:03,659 --> 02:37:09,119 show. She took over from from O'Reilly as the top 2571 02:37:09,720 --> 02:37:13,110 vote getter. Okay, ratings ratings got it. Ratings is 2572 02:37:13,110 --> 02:37:17,400 what I meant. And so she's getting kind of full of herself 2573 02:37:17,400 --> 02:37:22,050 in a very awkward way. And you wouldn't have this clip is that 2574 02:37:23,880 --> 02:37:28,590 to me and Kelly off script, this is the show she's now decided, I 2575 02:37:28,590 --> 02:37:32,850 guess to become either a rap artist or a performance artist 2576 02:37:32,880 --> 02:37:38,160 Megan Kelly. Yeah, our she's, she's trying to be a word jazz. 2577 02:37:38,160 --> 02:37:41,160 It's like word jazz. So she's going from one segment to the 2578 02:37:41,160 --> 02:37:44,520 next. And I know this wasn't on the prompter. And here's her 2579 02:37:44,520 --> 02:37:45,180 talking. 2580 02:37:45,750 --> 02:37:47,940 Already the President's taking some heat for praising the 2581 02:37:47,940 --> 02:37:51,000 transparency of this move. This is an important milestone and 2582 02:37:51,000 --> 02:37:53,400 transparency. This is the if you like your plan, you can keep 2583 02:37:53,400 --> 02:37:55,920 your plan guy. I'm not an emperor. I'm not a king. I don't 2584 02:37:55,920 --> 02:37:59,070 have the authority to do this immigration move. Obviously, we 2585 02:37:59,070 --> 02:38:01,410 didn't also the Benghazi talking points and we could go on. 2586 02:38:02,009 --> 02:38:05,309 Oh, she's got a cadence going on. I like it. Yeah, it's rap. 2587 02:38:05,339 --> 02:38:09,719 This is good. He's I'm a bitch. I'm a lover. I'm a wife. I'm a 2588 02:38:09,719 --> 02:38:10,979 mother should do that she can do 2589 02:38:11,009 --> 02:38:15,929 what is the point of this? And is this is really straying away 2590 02:38:15,929 --> 02:38:18,299 because she was trying to do a little more straight news that 2591 02:38:18,329 --> 02:38:21,119 you know, kind of with a lot of interviews kind of interview 2592 02:38:21,119 --> 02:38:24,329 oriented news show but now she's throwing and stuff like this was 2593 02:38:24,329 --> 02:38:29,399 just lopsided, you know, partisan to horrible and 2594 02:38:29,399 --> 02:38:32,189 horrible, horrible, horrible. She's really gone off the deep 2595 02:38:32,189 --> 02:38:36,479 end. And I barely smiles anymore. She's just got this 2596 02:38:36,659 --> 02:38:37,949 grimace. Yes. 2597 02:38:38,010 --> 02:38:40,290 You know, as you know, what's next? Her looks are gonna go. 2598 02:38:41,790 --> 02:38:45,750 Yeah, yeah, it's I think it's already happening. Her hair is 2599 02:38:45,750 --> 02:38:46,440 getting a little 2600 02:38:47,190 --> 02:38:50,370 her hair. This last time was stringy. Right. It was very 2601 02:38:50,370 --> 02:38:53,910 stringy. I think and I don't think it's hurtful. I think the 2602 02:38:53,910 --> 02:38:58,560 makeup people. She's got to be a hater. Hell on Wheels. Just 2603 02:38:58,560 --> 02:39:00,510 shows up. Yeah. 2604 02:39:00,660 --> 02:39:03,690 Oh, man is not Kelly again, is here. She 2605 02:39:03,690 --> 02:39:05,970 comes on to make it look like you guys didn't do a very good 2606 02:39:05,970 --> 02:39:09,060 job with me last time. I saw it. Right, right. Right. Right, 2607 02:39:09,060 --> 02:39:12,240 right. Yeah, that should go after the crew and a little bit 2608 02:39:12,240 --> 02:39:15,060 lighter, funny. And next thing you know, she's gonna look like 2609 02:39:15,060 --> 02:39:16,440 hell on the TV. 2610 02:39:17,070 --> 02:39:21,210 There was a really cool report that came out. That was if 2611 02:39:21,210 --> 02:39:26,460 there's some other data that I'm still looking for, that is 2612 02:39:26,460 --> 02:39:29,460 involved with this particular report. And I heard about it on 2613 02:39:29,460 --> 02:39:35,130 NPR and I had to clip the their version of the story. One of the 2614 02:39:35,130 --> 02:39:39,120 things that is always interesting to me is how me when 2615 02:39:39,120 --> 02:39:41,280 it comes to vaccinations, and I want to make sure everyone knows 2616 02:39:41,280 --> 02:39:44,760 I'm not an anti Vaxxer. Now I am 2617 02:39:44,789 --> 02:39:46,919 as a destroyer, we should have gotten I should have gotten a 2618 02:39:46,919 --> 02:39:49,859 clip for this. I haven't we're going to talk about what I'm 2619 02:39:49,859 --> 02:39:50,489 going to do. I'll 2620 02:39:50,580 --> 02:39:57,810 I'll I'll tell you. We I think there's certain vaccines that 2621 02:39:57,810 --> 02:40:01,650 are unnecessary and Certainly the amount that is pumped into 2622 02:40:01,650 --> 02:40:06,960 kids early on that certainly begs a lot of a question. And 2623 02:40:06,990 --> 02:40:12,900 now of course, we the CDC has come out and said, Oh, anyone 2624 02:40:12,900 --> 02:40:15,750 who's going to make these Ebola vaccines we are indemnifying you 2625 02:40:15,750 --> 02:40:17,310 but in general, the pharmaceutical countries 2626 02:40:17,340 --> 02:40:21,090 companies are indemnified. And what is always interesting to 2627 02:40:21,090 --> 02:40:24,480 me, and we've discussed this before, is if you if your 2628 02:40:24,480 --> 02:40:27,420 children are vaccinated, and they're all good to go, and 2629 02:40:27,420 --> 02:40:31,320 there is an unvaccinated or poorly vaccinated child at 2630 02:40:31,320 --> 02:40:38,310 school, why is that child banned when you're shouldn't have to 2631 02:40:38,310 --> 02:40:41,700 worry because you know, he does vaccinate immunity, right? You 2632 02:40:41,700 --> 02:40:47,190 would think that that is not a problem. And this report really 2633 02:40:47,640 --> 02:40:51,150 made me think about what is going on here and what the truth 2634 02:40:51,150 --> 02:40:55,080 is and where we really are at with contagious diseases. 2635 02:40:55,110 --> 02:40:59,610 researchers asked parents this question, if they knew a quarter 2636 02:40:59,610 --> 02:41:02,700 of the children in their own child's daycare was not fully 2637 02:41:02,700 --> 02:41:06,180 vaccinated, would they take their child out? Research 2638 02:41:06,180 --> 02:41:09,600 Scientist Sarah Clark was surprised by the answer. Over 2639 02:41:09,600 --> 02:41:13,560 70% of parents said that they definitely or probably would 2640 02:41:13,560 --> 02:41:17,760 consider doing that a big deal. She says since changing daycare 2641 02:41:17,760 --> 02:41:20,670 isn't easy for the parents or the child. And here's another 2642 02:41:20,670 --> 02:41:24,960 surprise 41% of parents said children who aren't up to date 2643 02:41:24,960 --> 02:41:28,410 with vaccines should be excluded, kind of like public 2644 02:41:28,410 --> 02:41:31,500 school. If you don't have them, you're not getting in. But 2645 02:41:31,800 --> 02:41:35,910 that's the basic there's the numbers. If I found out that 25% 2646 02:41:35,940 --> 02:41:38,310 of the children were not vaccinated, I'm taking my kid 2647 02:41:38,310 --> 02:41:42,930 out of daycare if a kid should not be allowed in school if 2648 02:41:42,930 --> 02:41:44,370 they're not vaccinated, but for many 2649 02:41:44,370 --> 02:41:48,270 parents, the bigger surprise may be this. The fact is federal 2650 02:41:48,270 --> 02:41:51,810 health data show that one in four children actually aren't 2651 02:41:51,810 --> 02:41:55,380 fully vaccinated, not because parents subject to the vaccines, 2652 02:41:55,500 --> 02:41:58,920 they just didn't make it to the doctor on time, whether it's due 2653 02:41:58,920 --> 02:42:02,310 to not being able to get an appointment or family life just 2654 02:42:02,310 --> 02:42:05,340 got too hectic or they didn't really know they were supposed 2655 02:42:05,340 --> 02:42:08,910 to come in. Well, those four months shots get delayed until, 2656 02:42:09,240 --> 02:42:12,780 let's say five and a half or six months. It's the one year mark 2657 02:42:12,780 --> 02:42:16,410 when vaccines are most often missed after routine. well baby 2658 02:42:16,410 --> 02:42:20,490 visits aren't as regular vaccines like D tap diptheria, 2659 02:42:20,490 --> 02:42:24,510 tetanus, pertussis, measles and chickenpox. Clark says the 2660 02:42:24,510 --> 02:42:28,410 findings should start a much needed conversation between 2661 02:42:28,410 --> 02:42:31,800 parents and daycare providers about vaccine policies and how 2662 02:42:31,800 --> 02:42:34,770 to change them to make sure children stay healthy. 2663 02:42:34,800 --> 02:42:40,140 I think this is a watershed report when you win the 25% of 2664 02:42:40,140 --> 02:42:43,530 children not being vaccinated not because parents are anti 2665 02:42:43,530 --> 02:42:47,850 vaccine, because they just forgot, didn't have time. Maybe 2666 02:42:47,880 --> 02:42:51,690 whatever the reason is, when that's an average, you look at 2667 02:42:51,690 --> 02:42:56,550 Montana. 80% of children are under vaccinated. This is 2668 02:42:56,550 --> 02:43:01,290 rampant, that children in the United States are really not up 2669 02:43:01,290 --> 02:43:05,340 to the vaccination level that people believe they are yet we 2670 02:43:05,340 --> 02:43:08,130 don't have all these crazy outbreaks of all this stuff 2671 02:43:08,130 --> 02:43:11,970 going on. To me, this means only one thing it truly is a 2672 02:43:11,970 --> 02:43:14,730 government program to ensure that you are shot up with 2673 02:43:14,730 --> 02:43:17,580 whatever they want you to be shot up with. And it's not 2674 02:43:17,580 --> 02:43:22,110 affected right now. But it's going to come. The numbers are 2675 02:43:22,110 --> 02:43:27,930 just astounding. Chicago 60% not vaccinated properly under 2676 02:43:27,930 --> 02:43:30,540 vaccinated. Why aren't we all dying? 2677 02:43:32,220 --> 02:43:36,540 Well, this herd immunity would be the reason whatever the case 2678 02:43:36,540 --> 02:43:38,970 I think is an interesting guy thought you were gonna bring 2679 02:43:39,030 --> 02:43:45,000 bring up the fact that this latest flu vaccine not only 2680 02:43:45,000 --> 02:43:50,100 doesn't work the CDC pocalypse shit what happened. What 2681 02:43:50,100 --> 02:43:52,290 happened. I just dropped something. It's something 2682 02:43:52,290 --> 02:43:57,870 important. Yeah, the preamp. Anyway, it also drops the mic 2683 02:43:57,870 --> 02:44:02,550 and I gotta reset it. So we can wait. Spit in a prayer. The CDC 2684 02:44:02,550 --> 02:44:06,570 apologized for the shot. And the Italians took the shot off the 2685 02:44:06,570 --> 02:44:07,200 market. And 2686 02:44:07,200 --> 02:44:08,190 we had that on the last show 2687 02:44:08,220 --> 02:44:12,600 we had I know he did. Did I mentioned that everyone I talked 2688 02:44:12,600 --> 02:44:16,470 to who's got the flu is sick had had the had the shot just before 2689 02:44:16,470 --> 02:44:20,550 they caught the flu? Yeah. Oh, yes, you did. Well, I'm still 2690 02:44:20,550 --> 02:44:22,590 hung up on it again, got a better story? 2691 02:44:24,180 --> 02:44:27,900 No, I mean, are you insinuating something that maybe they tried 2692 02:44:27,900 --> 02:44:28,740 to make us all sick? 2693 02:44:30,780 --> 02:44:33,210 I just think they're careless. Because ever since they this is 2694 02:44:33,210 --> 02:44:35,160 the problem with indemnification. Yes. And I 2695 02:44:35,160 --> 02:44:38,460 think it's the overlooked problem of indemnification. And 2696 02:44:38,460 --> 02:44:41,400 this way. We brought us up on the show before the reason that 2697 02:44:41,400 --> 02:44:44,970 I don't think it's a good idea to use gamma radiation to 2698 02:44:44,970 --> 02:44:50,010 irradiate our food supply, even though it would eliminate E coli 2699 02:44:50,010 --> 02:44:51,870 and a lot of other things that are killing people. 2700 02:44:52,260 --> 02:44:56,160 Pasteurization you mean, no gamma radiation where you would 2701 02:44:56,160 --> 02:44:58,140 go to be way beyond pasteurization. It's just 2702 02:44:58,170 --> 02:44:59,970 who is doing this and where's this being talked about? 2703 02:45:02,040 --> 02:45:04,860 nobody's doing it because it's been talked about to death when 2704 02:45:04,860 --> 02:45:07,860 they started to introduce it. In the United States, it's being 2705 02:45:07,860 --> 02:45:11,340 done in Europe and other parts of the world. And it's but it's 2706 02:45:11,340 --> 02:45:13,890 not pasteurization. It's they take these got these big 2707 02:45:13,890 --> 02:45:17,070 machines and then a gamma radiate the product as it goes 2708 02:45:17,070 --> 02:45:20,430 through which is harmless to the to AIDS. It's not, it's not a 2709 02:45:20,730 --> 02:45:25,080 radiation that makes it radioactive. Okay, it just kills 2710 02:45:25,080 --> 02:45:30,150 everything. And it would kill every whole lot and in sterilize 2711 02:45:30,150 --> 02:45:32,760 everything sterilized stuff, and would kill you if you walk 2712 02:45:32,760 --> 02:45:37,740 through it. And but it's an old processes, not unknown, and it's 2713 02:45:37,740 --> 02:45:41,460 used in some countries for certain things, but I've and I 2714 02:45:41,490 --> 02:45:44,670 know it people in the United States Oh god, it's radius, you 2715 02:45:44,670 --> 02:45:47,580 radiate. It's radioactive. You're gonna kill it. You did. 2716 02:45:47,580 --> 02:45:49,650 So they're all scared to skittish about it, because they 2717 02:45:49,650 --> 02:45:51,990 don't understand the math because they're all so science 2718 02:45:51,990 --> 02:45:54,330 oriented. They believe in global warming, but they don't get 2719 02:45:54,360 --> 02:45:58,740 this. That's another argument to make be made. And I'm against 2720 02:45:58,740 --> 02:46:02,550 it, not because it's not a great idea. But because once it's 2721 02:46:02,550 --> 02:46:06,090 done, nobody gives a shit after that. They're gonna be throwing 2722 02:46:06,090 --> 02:46:10,950 the meat in the dirt. You know that dog shit in there. Who 2723 02:46:10,950 --> 02:46:14,130 cares? Yeah, cuz it'd be the gore and this is what happens 2724 02:46:14,130 --> 02:46:16,590 when he when you indemnify and this is a form of 2725 02:46:16,590 --> 02:46:19,140 indemnification. If you think about it, it purifies 2726 02:46:19,140 --> 02:46:23,220 everything. You indemnify the vaccine makers, so they nothing 2727 02:46:23,220 --> 02:46:25,950 they do is everything they do and no matter how crappy the 2728 02:46:25,950 --> 02:46:29,640 product too bad, and so they're all indemnify. So you end up 2729 02:46:29,640 --> 02:46:32,550 with these mediocre products. They're coming up because they 2730 02:46:32,550 --> 02:46:34,650 don't have to worry about it. Who cares. And 2731 02:46:34,680 --> 02:46:37,800 by the way, there is a fund, which the Federal Register 2732 02:46:37,800 --> 02:46:41,640 publishes it. I think every month, there is a fund that pays 2733 02:46:41,640 --> 02:46:45,270 victims of vaccination incidents. So it's kind of a 2734 02:46:45,270 --> 02:46:49,590 double whammy. The government pays for that. Yeah, and a lot 2735 02:46:49,590 --> 02:46:51,300 of money. And there's a lot of you know, of course, 2736 02:46:51,300 --> 02:46:54,150 you have to die off scot free. So they don't know. They don't 2737 02:46:54,150 --> 02:46:57,780 have to do any quality control. Right. Yeah, live vaccines. What 2738 02:46:57,780 --> 02:47:00,510 did that batch it's all live VAs grew and who cares. But there 2739 02:47:00,510 --> 02:47:04,800 isn't, it may get it out. We got to get it out. And that's my, 2740 02:47:05,610 --> 02:47:11,160 that would be my pet peeve. That clip. This is one of the 2741 02:47:11,160 --> 02:47:15,690 funniest stories. Because this poor guy who's a professor, I 2742 02:47:15,690 --> 02:47:19,560 guess, at Harvard, Harvard Business is going to be the 2743 02:47:19,560 --> 02:47:22,890 goat. He's going to his life's going to be ruined, hopefully. 2744 02:47:23,130 --> 02:47:26,850 And this is the story that was on the today or the Good Morning 2745 02:47:26,850 --> 02:47:31,290 America, whatever the one on CBS is, and this is Edelman versus 2746 02:47:31,290 --> 02:47:32,190 the Chinese. 2747 02:47:32,910 --> 02:47:35,250 It doesn't need more setup or is that does that well, now you'll 2748 02:47:35,250 --> 02:47:37,830 get this Oh, I know about this guy. Yes. I know that he is a 2749 02:47:37,830 --> 02:47:38,790 Harvard professor. Yeah. 2750 02:47:39,570 --> 02:47:42,180 Boston Globe reports on a Harvard associate professors 2751 02:47:42,180 --> 02:47:45,690 food fight. Benjamin Edelman threatened legal action because 2752 02:47:45,690 --> 02:47:50,010 he was overcharged for dollars for Chinese takeout. The 2753 02:47:50,010 --> 02:47:52,710 restaurant admits it's admitted its website prices were 2754 02:47:52,710 --> 02:47:56,010 outdated. Adelman fired off at least five emails to the 2755 02:47:56,010 --> 02:47:59,220 restaurant he wrote, I suggest that Sichuan garden, refund me 2756 02:47:59,220 --> 02:48:03,390 three times the amount of the overcharge. Later he wrote, the 2757 02:48:03,390 --> 02:48:05,850 more you tried to claim your restaurant was not at fault, the 2758 02:48:05,850 --> 02:48:09,600 more determined I am to seek a greater sanction against you. 2759 02:48:09,960 --> 02:48:14,550 He's serious. Yes, Mr. Edelman needs a chill pill. Very 2760 02:48:14,550 --> 02:48:15,240 serious. 2761 02:48:16,290 --> 02:48:17,430 What is his knees? It was 2762 02:48:18,330 --> 02:48:20,460 chill pill or chill pill. Okay, 2763 02:48:20,490 --> 02:48:25,290 I didn't hear what she said. Let's do this. I've seen this 2764 02:48:25,290 --> 02:48:29,340 story and I ignored it. Now I 2765 02:48:29,340 --> 02:48:35,070 couldn't possibly ignore it. It was too funny. But the guy is 2766 02:48:35,070 --> 02:48:38,790 like making a federal case out of a $4 equity Do you could have 2767 02:48:38,790 --> 02:48:40,890 got the four bucks back I'm sure by walking back. 2768 02:48:40,890 --> 02:48:44,730 But the I think I think funnier are all these emails that come 2769 02:48:44,730 --> 02:48:51,090 out of this clear promotional move by obviously not by Sony, 2770 02:48:51,510 --> 02:48:55,140 whoever is in charge of promoting the Seth Rogen 2771 02:48:55,530 --> 02:49:00,870 Christmas movie about Kim Jong Kim Jong Hoon? Yeah, this is 2772 02:49:00,900 --> 02:49:05,070 that I think that parts work but now it's just the emails to 2773 02:49:05,070 --> 02:49:13,410 bring down really just a couple of main people say that Angelina 2774 02:49:13,410 --> 02:49:20,880 Jolie is unfit minimally talented, spoiled brat this is 2775 02:49:20,880 --> 02:49:24,660 the way that producers and movie studios and television this 2776 02:49:24,660 --> 02:49:27,660 shows Yep, just so you know, this is exactly what but by the 2777 02:49:27,660 --> 02:49:35,550 way, where Where are the women yelling misogyny. I mean this is 2778 02:49:35,580 --> 02:49:42,660 if this is the culture of Hollywood which it is why is Why 2779 02:49:42,660 --> 02:49:44,190 is no one up in arms about this 2780 02:49:46,290 --> 02:49:51,780 they're all giggling I don't know because some the whoever 2781 02:49:51,810 --> 02:49:55,800 decides that something should be targeted. Didn't target it. 2782 02:49:56,760 --> 02:49:59,220 Feeling sorry for Sony. I'm not sure exactly what 2783 02:49:59,670 --> 02:50:10,560 no Got Sony it's it's the what is it? rootin Amy Pascal, a bit 2784 02:50:10,560 --> 02:50:14,250 of Scott Rutan is big time producer. Yes. And then of 2785 02:50:14,250 --> 02:50:23,220 course they they brought in the the race racism you know? Okay 2786 02:50:23,250 --> 02:50:27,000 yeah doesn't read this to you per scholar according to 2787 02:50:27,000 --> 02:50:30,540 BuzzFeed, which you know is all it's a promotional outlet at 2788 02:50:30,540 --> 02:50:35,730 BuzzFeed. Peskov who is the CO chairman of the studio, asked 2789 02:50:35,730 --> 02:50:39,390 rootin for advice before going to an Obama fundraiser hosted by 2790 02:50:39,690 --> 02:50:45,120 DreamWorks Animation had Jeffrey Katzenberg, particularly what 2791 02:50:45,180 --> 02:50:48,120 she should ask the President at this quote stupid Jeffery 2792 02:50:48,120 --> 02:50:54,480 breakfast. The the answer was maybe he'd like to finance some 2793 02:50:54,480 --> 02:50:58,080 movies I doubted was the reply. Should I ask him if he liked 2794 02:50:58,080 --> 02:51:06,390 Django with replying 12 years or the butler or Think Like a Man 2795 02:51:08,130 --> 02:51:11,610 so the the racial undertones are all in there. 2796 02:51:12,660 --> 02:51:14,550 Yeah, that's Hollywood for you. Yeah, 2797 02:51:14,580 --> 02:51:17,760 that's exactly what it is. That's exactly what 2798 02:51:17,910 --> 02:51:20,430 the biggest fuss about this stuff when you get a hold of 2799 02:51:20,430 --> 02:51:22,860 these memos. I think maybe there's more of these big 2800 02:51:22,860 --> 02:51:27,120 companies should be hacked and get those memos I laugh riot 2801 02:51:27,150 --> 02:51:27,420 Yeah, 2802 02:51:27,450 --> 02:51:30,450 I really enjoy it. I think people should know that this 2803 02:51:30,480 --> 02:51:35,310 this is exactly how these how Hollywood operates. And I would 2804 02:51:35,310 --> 02:51:37,350 say absolutely racist. 2805 02:51:38,820 --> 02:51:40,410 Yeah, racist, sexist. 2806 02:51:41,910 --> 02:51:43,410 Bingo. Boom. Shakalaka 2807 02:51:43,560 --> 02:51:45,030 is totally totally 2808 02:51:47,400 --> 02:51:51,780 okay, I think that's about all I have. It looks like Brennan said 2809 02:51:51,780 --> 02:51:56,490 no proof torture produced useful info. That's interesting. No, 2810 02:51:56,490 --> 02:51:56,880 Brennan 2811 02:51:56,880 --> 02:52:02,370 took that site. Oh, that's gotta be gotta make the old ticks on. 2812 02:52:03,360 --> 02:52:06,660 Hayden go crazy. Oh, yeah, they'll be Blinken in Lincoln. 2813 02:52:06,660 --> 02:52:06,810 And 2814 02:52:07,980 --> 02:52:13,830 this is war, baby. Now it's all out war. Uh huh. The only other 2815 02:52:13,830 --> 02:52:14,070 thing you 2816 02:52:14,070 --> 02:52:16,800 know, one of the I did hear one argument from one of the Stooges 2817 02:52:16,980 --> 02:52:19,410 that bought off that it was it would there was a couple of 2818 02:52:19,410 --> 02:52:21,660 arguments that that actually got my attention because they were 2819 02:52:21,660 --> 02:52:26,010 kind of creative. And this one guy, and I can't remember which 2820 02:52:26,010 --> 02:52:29,610 of the many shows that these guys are on what show he was on. 2821 02:52:29,610 --> 02:52:33,660 But he says why none of this makes any sense. Why would they 2822 02:52:33,660 --> 02:52:38,430 be doing this for all those years? If it wasn't working? 2823 02:52:39,510 --> 02:52:42,570 Which was just the logic, it was just a logical question. Hmm. 2824 02:52:43,020 --> 02:52:45,570 And of course, my answer would be both because they're sadist 2825 02:52:45,570 --> 02:52:48,000 and they just like they like doing it. Yeah, they like 2826 02:52:48,000 --> 02:52:51,270 beating guys up. There's are there are people out there? Who 2827 02:52:51,270 --> 02:52:57,720 are genuine sadists that like to beat up and kill people? That's 2828 02:52:58,170 --> 02:53:01,530 my, that'd be my response to that. But if there was, if that 2829 02:53:01,530 --> 02:53:04,020 response wasn't available, it's you know, what are you going to 2830 02:53:04,020 --> 02:53:07,950 say? There? Maybe they're just wasting money that there's $81 2831 02:53:07,950 --> 02:53:13,470 million contract psychologist gotten? Who knows? It's just it 2832 02:53:13,470 --> 02:53:16,200 was I think it was a waste of time. Well, 2833 02:53:16,290 --> 02:53:18,720 I'm sure there will be some crises that will probably be 2834 02:53:18,720 --> 02:53:21,840 averted just in time for Christmas. And we'll all be 2835 02:53:21,840 --> 02:53:26,340 witnessing that. Try not to get yourself sucked in. It's really 2836 02:53:26,340 --> 02:53:29,820 not good. And we will be here to 2837 02:53:30,030 --> 02:53:32,640 don't believe anything. i The listeners, the best listeners, 2838 02:53:32,640 --> 02:53:35,370 we have the ones who say I don't watch mainstream media, and 2839 02:53:35,370 --> 02:53:37,380 that's pretty much wanna watch something, go watch the 2840 02:53:37,380 --> 02:53:39,480 congressional hearings, you get a lot more out of that. And 2841 02:53:39,480 --> 02:53:39,750 there's a 2842 02:53:39,750 --> 02:53:42,030 lot of there'll be some repeats, but there's definitely some good 2843 02:53:42,030 --> 02:53:47,970 ones on on C span. Currently, though, this will this will 2844 02:53:47,970 --> 02:53:51,720 continue. And well, well. We'll have more on Sunday show. Please 2845 02:53:51,720 --> 02:53:55,350 remember to support us. It is the way the system works for us 2846 02:53:55,350 --> 02:54:02,790 our value for value proposition DeVore act.org/na. And I hope 2847 02:54:02,790 --> 02:54:05,550 you weather the storm there. John. Everything seems 2848 02:54:05,550 --> 02:54:08,460 to be calming down at least for now. I think the worst of it's 2849 02:54:08,460 --> 02:54:11,250 over for us. Is it heads east. 2850 02:54:11,850 --> 02:54:15,390 Excellent. And 2851 02:54:16,290 --> 02:54:17,880 we'll see you for hanging from my 2852 02:54:17,880 --> 02:54:22,320 roof. Coming to you from FEMA Region six here and the capital 2853 02:54:22,320 --> 02:54:24,660 of the drone Star State in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam 2854 02:54:24,660 --> 02:54:25,110 curry 2855 02:54:25,170 --> 02:54:28,440 in from Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be 2856 02:54:28,440 --> 02:54:28,680 back 2857 02:54:28,680 --> 02:54:32,790 on Sunday doing it live. No agenda stream.com And on the 2858 02:54:32,790 --> 02:54:36,210 podcast right here on no agenda. 2859 02:54:54,180 --> 02:54:59,970 It was worth it. It was worth it. shaka laka Boom shakalaka 2860 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:03,150 Boom shakalaka and Boom shaka laka that's how we 2861 02:55:03,990 --> 02:55:04,470 that's how we 2862 02:55:12,509 --> 02:55:22,769 and that's the story Adios mofo.org/n A