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Public Radio is ready for
capitalism.

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Adam curry,

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John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday
May 14 2015. time once again for

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your gizmo nation media
assassination episode seven to

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one. This is no agenda,

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propagating the FH ITP meme and
broadcasting live from the crock

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pot Kando condo and FEMA Region
six in the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam curry

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and foraging in the forest of
the Pacific Northwest. I'm John

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C. Dvorak. Greg bobbin,
Buzzkill.

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You're no longer in the in the
Tower of Terror. No,

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I'm in the foraging forest and
foraging for support. Angeles,

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Washington. Yes. Nice.

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So it's a six week up. There.

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It is. Rain week.

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I
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about. Okay. It

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has a lot of I know it doesn't
rain in California. So it

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actually took me a while to
what's this? What is somebody

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spitting? What's going on?

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Oh, oh, the rain. Okay. We've
had nonstop rains. Now in our

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second well, not entirely
nonstop. But our second week of

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rain. They expect it to go on
for another week here. It's just

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rain. We have

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Texas is always in a perpetual
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drought. No, no, it's been. So
this is the end of our second

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week. We're going into a third
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They're always complaining in
Texas when it rains. Why don't

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they set up cisterns?

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I don't think anyone's really
complaining. Not Not really.

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We're just you know, we're a
little tired of the wetness, but

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it's not. No, we're happy. Lake
Travis was up a foot

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which is a pretty big deal for
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So yeah, what do you what are
you doing? I'm just hanging out.

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What's the deal? Is it someone's
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Actually, Eric's birthday is
coming up. I don't know if he'll

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be here for that for

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Sunday or

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no I went up to we went up
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piddle pity party. Mimi

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puddles pity party. Yeah. Who
was puddles? Puddles? Dog?

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This this thing? Ah, ah. Puddles
is the singing clown. Okay,

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what's on a very unique
landscape? I would call maybe a

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lounge Jack. I'm not sure.
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he must be really good if you
went up there just for him.

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Well, that was told he was
really good. Oh, yeah. Have you

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seen ASO need to come up here
and get the printer working?

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That's another issue.

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You're actually just this is
marriage. Tech support. That's

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That's what husbands do. We're
tech support. I'm sure there's

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some

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puddles to character. This guy
is extremely popular sells out

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in two hours wherever he goes.
It's like, you know, pretty big

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venues. Interesting. And yeah,
if he goes to Texas, I would

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recommend going to see him. The
guy can he's got a tremendous

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voice. Kind of a Tom Jones.
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you went up there under the ruse
of tech support to go see him

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that it must be good. That's
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there.

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So, so I want to get this one
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Okay, there's a girl who can
touch her eyeball with.

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Really? And you're dating her or
what is the deal?

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Oh, I did. She cheats. I just
watched it. I haven't seen it

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before. She's got a long tongue.

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This is this is what obsesses
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I mean, I've all told me she saw

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Facebook Facebook. Yeah, that's
where she saw it of course.

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And she says you got to see this
and I said I'm too busy. I was

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working on the show. Right and
then I said well maybe we'll do

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it on the show and when she

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said you got to see this Does
she really think that was going

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to bring value to your life?

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Well you know the way face
Facebook people are serious I

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didn't see something you're
asking me that question.

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I did see something on Facebook
yesterday which I'll bring up

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now. When people say all right
that's it I'm leaving Facebook

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I'm closing my account it is the
it is the adult equivalent of

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I'm running away from home we
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know you're just doing it for
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bad for Oh no. Come back please
don't leave our little club

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Well, yeah, I'm not in that
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know I I salute you for that I
stay in I will say I find more

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increasingly I find more
articles that are views for the

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show. Of course this is what
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while where I guess the New York
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Facebook's towards the end of
the times do they have any idea

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that this is dumb that this is
the they don't control their own

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distribution now?

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I don't know what they're
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probably always, you know take
their their marbles and go home

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as what they assume I'm guessing
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Anyway, I'm driving I'm very
happy we had a big news event

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which gives me or gives us the
opportunity to play a jingle on

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the bar trains good

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planes ban

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CNN has not stopped they have
not stopped with this. Yeah,

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that would be right it's it's
unconscionable but I figured out

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why didn't take long to see what
what all the the agendas were

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now whether this is

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I have a different one. For the
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train. Yeah, train crash. I

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want to hear yours first. But I
mindset mine's a little

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different. And it's just a
coincidence that I even stumbled

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on it. Okay. So other things
going on besides?

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Well, I look, I'm an aviation
guy. I'm not a train guy. So

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don't don't necessarily

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saying once on wheels.

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It's not the same thing. They're
in direct competition. I did

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catch a little bit of Well, the
same messaging from the three

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big networks CBS, NBC, ABC.
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timing of this event, however
coincidental the incidence, I

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think Mac was immediately turned
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this, some of them tracks
equipment has been charitably

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described as antique. But
despite that, a House panel

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today cut an tracks budget. Even
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than 250 million people who ride
these rails each year pass

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through tunnels and over bridges
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old, and look at Amtrak
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upgrading the northeast corridor

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would cause to its ages by the
way, age just on bridges point

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$6

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billion per year, but Congress
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year for all of Amtrak's
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Next year, funding will drop by
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House Democrats today to boost
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Now. That was CBS. Here's NBC.
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political element to all this
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Philadelphia, the fight over
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the shock

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and tragedy of what happened in
Philadelphia made a long

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standing battle over Amtrak
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Democrats wanted to see a big
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they look at the accident and
say it's an example of the need

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to improve our infrastructure.
Republicans who always argue

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that Amtrak needs to turn a
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taxpayers would not budge. And
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ABC just

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hours after the derailment a
political headline in Washington

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tonight, a battle over funding
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voting to cut Amtrak's budget by
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limits, asking to see the crash
report before they reconsider

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my analysis. Republicans kill
people. And Joe Biden has

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finally has a platform to run
his potential campaign on

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because he's from Pennsylvania
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could come up with.

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That's the logic of the whole
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that's a bolt been reverse
engineer they had this disaster

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they can't seem to determine
Well, let's play I think we have

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a democracy now clip of this.
Well, we don't you can just say

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we don't

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I don't mind that the Amtrak
wreck clip.

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Yeah, I am dead right play that
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six people have been killed and
dozens wounded after an Amtrak

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train bound for New York City
derailed just outside of

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Philadelphia. Eight people
remain in critical condition and

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not everyone on board has been
accounted for. The train had

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departed from Washington DC
carrying more than 240 people.

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Six cars overturned with
sections of the train so mangled

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people had to be rescued with
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Philadelphia Mayor Michael
Nutter called it quote an

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absolute disastrous mess, saying
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this in my life. The cause
remains unknown. Okay, urinal so

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got to the cause remains
unknown. And then I started

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thinking about what possibly is
going on. Is this possible? Is

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this possibly a protest of some
sort? It kind of in the same

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vein as the bombing in Oklahoma
years ago because of the Waco

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situation that took place where
they they attacked Waco, and

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just by coincidence, nobody's
put made this connection before

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but but this is the 30 year
anniversary of the Philadelphia

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bombing of move and we can play
the move and silly clip move

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okay.

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Today marks the 30th anniversary
of a massive police operation in

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Philadelphia that culminated in
the helicopter bombing of the

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headquarters of a radical group
known as move the fire from the

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attack incinerated six adults
and five children and destroyed

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65 homes. Despite two grand jury
investigations and commissioned

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finding the top officials were
grossly negligent. No one from

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city government was criminally
charged. Here is how the bombing

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was initially reported in
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I know nothing about this, John.
I mean, maybe not old enough. I

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just don't know. No,

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you know nothing about it
because at the time they it was

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been it was suppressed ever
since. But this was they

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actually bombed with a bomb with
two bombs actually with turns

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out as his neighborhood and then
the police department and the

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fire department let 65 homes
burn to the ground before they

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did anything. Wow. Let me
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on WC au radio.

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I've just been advised that we
have no videotape of the episode

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that apparently ended we think
ended the move situation

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tonight. the dropping of an
incendiary device and let's take

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a careful look at this 5:27pm
waiting.

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This was dropped from an
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Yes, we bombed, which is yes, it
was a helicopter. But it was a

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bomb. That was quite a bit.

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So it was this army. It was an
FBI. It

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was a bomb was from the FBI.
They believe and it was but it

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was the local police who
commandeer the state police

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chopper

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and then that kind of bomb that
they throw out.

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See for

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excellent state police
helicopter drops out there as

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the explosion. As you can see a
very dramatic explosion that

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occurs 30 seconds and really
rips into the move compound

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there you see the bunker, which
soon will go up in flames. And

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that was the explosion close up.
If there's anybody there,

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standing there, it's obvious
they couldn't survive that

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explosion.

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That was on the CRU TV actually,
we saw some video there. A move

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was a Philadelphia based radical
movement dedicated to black

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liberation and back to nature
lifestyle. It was founded by

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John Africa and all his members
took on the surname Africa in

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2010. Ramona Africa, the sole
adult survivor of the attack,

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told Democracy Now what happened
that the bomb was dropped on her

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house

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in terms of the bombing. After
being attacked the way we were

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first with for Dell you chose us
by the fire department, and then

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tons of tear gas and then being
shot at the police at MIT to

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shooting over 10,000 rounds that
set us in 90 minutes. There was

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a lot you know it was quiet for
a little bit and then without

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any warning at all. To members
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Department's bomb squad got in a
Pennsylvania State Police

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helicopter and flew over our
home and dropped a satchel

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containing C for a powerful
military explosive bet no

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municipal police department as
they had to get it from the

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federal government from the FBI
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bomb them and bomb them again

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I had no idea about this
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I do. Okay. I don't have any
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coincidence you know there's a
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this. This normally they always
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derail for no reason.

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certainly trying to wait to
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don't have a although there were
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article. Yes. This here's your
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from I believe, May 8, so it's a
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warns of train derailment threat
on May 8 devices that could be

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used by terrorists to derail
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rail facilities around the
country. The FBI warned nine Why

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are their devices to derail
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place by the railroad companies?
Nine as like a bogus story right

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off the bat go on.

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Yeah, well, it says And again,
this is before this happened.

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Yeah, well, nine derailleurs a
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to derail train cars for safety
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been stolen recently.

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and how does it derailleur work?
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no it probably goes over the
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flips probably got one on both
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at least one side more than the
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moves it off the track. I have
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could have been a you know some
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Somebody sold a derailleurs.
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been waiting for that story to
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derailment, though. That's
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though the FBI stole things and
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can relate this to the move
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China. And so far as timing,
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is coincident with their
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Philadelphia. I mean, what if it
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think differently, but it was in
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it's not unusual for people to
seek revenge. If somebody's kid

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was killed, or there's a lot of
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want to find you always want to
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That's the other thing that we
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Yeah, there was one VP of some
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to target anybody to train most
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assassin onboard shoots the guy
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but but with with this with the
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this, cutting Amtrak's funding
that was extremely Cohen

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coincidental that there was
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what's the TIM RUSSERT kid kid's
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was on. I think this was CNN.
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have to hate the Republicans.
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originally from Washington, DC.
Alex, Metro Metro is a service

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that a lot of Republican
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desperately use to get in and
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Republicans want to cut the
budget for Metro in half.

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Remember, in 2009, Metro had a
deadly accident over nine people

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were killed, they want to cut
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really is no desire to
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even if it's beneficial to their
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people who work for them because
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not in my backyard. I don't
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Fiscal hawkishness Is, is real.

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It's really there's real
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fiscal hawkish, I like and I
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desperately, us Yeah, oh, yeah.
Like out of desperation, because

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there's, that indicates that
these Republicans underpay their

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staff? Yes. Because they have to
crawl to the subway and

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desperately use it

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and they're willing to kill
them. They don't care. They

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don't care. It's a good one. Oh,
keep our eye on this. I mean,

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obviously, CNN sees the value of
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they wouldn't be doing it. So it
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And in fact, if I were CNN, if I
if I knew some things, I'd wait

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I'd sit on it. I'd wait a little
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we'll see the quarterly is go
down and go that's what they're

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doing up and the poop bam, bring
out some breaking news. I just

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found that annoying, but there
was nothing and nothing else to

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see pretty much across all
networks, but CNN was about

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about the worst. A couple of
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follow ups from the previous
show. We were talking about the

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embryos. With that Duchenne
uncle, Republican guy who is

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suing the screwy actress Nagaraj
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Sofia Vergara and the Republican

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apparently and I this is I think
it's true browsing to the

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medical journals last night,
that all fetuses start out in

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the female form. So for him to
say these two girls in that

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particular stage, that he's
correct, but they but

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that's interesting. I never
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a couple of people email email
me about that. So I appreciate

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that. But also with us being
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the near future. In this case,
Nigel Farage withdraws his

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resignation as predicted I
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but no two days later.

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yeah, that's what these you know
that. I guess the mechanism is I

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quit and if everybody goes okay,
then you quit. Yeah, but they

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were no we need you. Tweets
about it. Oh, we he can't he's

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the one responsible. One guy
said I've given to party good as

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a tweet that given the party 2
million pounds because of Nigel

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Farage. And so he's back if
which is good for us.

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The good for the show, big time.
I want to start off with Gitmo

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nation east for a moment big
things happening in the UK with

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new legislation that has been
well it hasn't been introduced.

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They're only talking about it
will be a part of the Queen's

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speech. According to a David
Carr. I'm Rob, this is the new

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counter counter terrorism
extremism bill, which, as far as

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I know, won't become really
available until the 27th when we

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when we have the Queen's speech,
but David Cameron has already

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lifted a bit of the veil about
what this will be. And again,

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there we are with our var
podcast license.com. This is

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going to become pretty useful.
I'm reading now from just from

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The Guardian, which is kind of
the best I could get the

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measures would give the police
powers to apply to the High

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Court for an order to limit
quote, harmful activities of an

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extremist individual. The
definition of harmful is to

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include a risk of public
disorder, a risk of harassment,

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alarm or distress or creating a
quote, threat to the functioning

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of democracy. Well, wait, wait
for it. The aim is to catch not

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just those who spread or incite
hatred on the grounds of gender,

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race or religion, but also those
it shouldn't be height and age

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by the way, but also those who
undertake harmful activities for

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the purpose of overthrowing
democracy they would include a

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ban on broadcasting and the
requirement to submit to the

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police in advance any proposed
publication on the web and

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social media or in print so the
way I understand this is you get

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a disruption order from the
queen as your Hey, watch out son

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we don't like what you're saying
that if you want to then post

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something on Twitter or
Facebook, you have to have it

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approved by their poli sci.

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Now, again, that's a trend.

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Well, we always talk about the
UK being the beta test for the

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rest of the universe now

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worked out well for them. We
should do it to

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Theresa May. Who is the interior
person she's in charge of

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Homeland Security, the British
equivalent of Homeland Security,

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the fantastic interview of her
on BBC Radio force I listened to

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at night when I go to bed
because it's morning, I get kind

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of you know, I can I think I
pick up a lot of it in the

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middle of the night. And it's a
12 minute interview, which

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will on a second you're telling
me that you go to bed and you

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leave the BBC on all night.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is

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I don't know. Let me think about

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okay. Well, clearly the the
sound is getting into my ears. I

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don't know if my brain I have
weird dreams though.

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I was sick. So I wonder why I
feel so British.

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I tell you how John. So Theresa
May was on BBC Four radio radio

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for the M. The host John Africa
is a good guy. He is trying to

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get her to explain the
definition of extremism, which

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will be the the the mitigating
factor in in this bill where you

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are, you know, we're going to be
restricted from broadcasting I

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presume that also includes
podcasting. just posting

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anything on the website or
social media without the your

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your messaging being approved by
the politic apparatchik. So I

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thought it was very interesting
to just play two clips from this

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from this interview, where
Theresa May is trying to talk

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about this extremism and the way
she she and by the way,

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extremism does have a
definition, which is belief in

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and support for ideas that are
very far from what most people

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consider correct or reasonable.
Which by the way, is pretty much

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everything the on the show, if
someone listens to it, who was

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all in, not with us.

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Thanks. So yeah, and

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she takes this back then tries
to explain it. She can't

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necessarily explain extremism,
but you can explain what is not

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extremist behavior, which
includes, of course, British

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values,

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this will end the reason for
doing this, John, I mean, you

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talk about tolerance and
intolerance. I mean, there are

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people out that may well

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you recall, we read in the the
EU European Union documents,

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that tolerance was going to be
big on the agenda, that you have

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to be tolerant, which we
probably should look at that

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that definition, that definition
as well or

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sadly who was seeking to divide
us. We are government of one

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nation, we want to bring people
together to ensure we are living

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together as one society but
there are those who are trying

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to promote hatred and
intolerance seeking to divide us

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into a into a dominance and
undermine our British values.

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And what we are proposing is a
bill which will have certain

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measures within it. measures
such as introducing banning

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orders for groups and disruption
orders for individuals. For

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those who are actively trying to
promote this hatred and

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intolerance, which can lead to
division in our society.

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This is fantastic. It is great,
you know, hey I hate you douche.

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Rude pick him up

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undermines our British values,
but British values, it will be

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part of a bigger picture, a
strategy which will also has a

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key part of it, actually
promoting our British values,

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our values of democracy, rule of
rule of law tolerance. Now,

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by the way, if this were in the
United States, no one would ever

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question What exactly are
British values, luckily, is the

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BBC

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and understanding acceptance of
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and freedom of speech and
essential prerequisite of a

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tolerant and decent society. And
if you ban groups of people from

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getting together and talking
about the things that worry them

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about the way our society is
heading, don't you become a part

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of it?

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No. Well, first of all, I would
say that your description of

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what we're proposing to do is is
not right.

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When you join, joining groups of
certain people getting together.

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We're not talking about that in
groups of people getting

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together who are simply talking
about problems in society, what

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they perceive as issues that
need to be a question about the

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extremism of all sorts, Islamist
extremism, but also other forms

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of extremism like Neo Nazism,

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where's climate change denial,
that should be extremism pretty

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soon,

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that is seeking to promote
hatred that is seeking to divide

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our society that is seeking to
undermine the very values that

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make us a great country to live
in that make us this great

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pluralistic society.

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Having lived in the UK for for
about five years, they can

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arrest everybody I know because
they're all racist. If hatred

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filled, not all, that's an
overstatement. But man Oh, man,

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this is this very lots of
extremely lots, or is the the

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marketplace guy would say
gajillions. Keep saying he said

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00:26:50,010 --> 00:26:55,170
it again the other day. second
clip? So again, we want to know

459
00:26:55,170 --> 00:26:59,250
about the line, how do you cross
the line into extremism, which

460
00:26:59,250 --> 00:27:01,950
again, has not been defined by
Ms men. But the reason

461
00:27:01,950 --> 00:27:05,490
we're doing this is, first of
all, because we do need, I

462
00:27:05,490 --> 00:27:08,880
think, to ensure that we are
together as one society, we are

463
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,910
one nation we are working on
voice

464
00:27:12,180 --> 00:27:16,740
is that speak with one voice? Is
that like a Nazi reference? One

465
00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:18,600
Nation speak with one voice,

466
00:27:19,170 --> 00:27:21,690
I have no idea. It is a
reference. It's a reference to

467
00:27:21,690 --> 00:27:22,590
something and there will be

468
00:27:22,590 --> 00:27:24,720
different views within that
nation, of course, it will be

469
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,810
different than doesn't nobody is
suggesting that different views

470
00:27:27,810 --> 00:27:31,050
cannot be expressed. Yeah, one
of the reasons for looking at

471
00:27:31,620 --> 00:27:32,100
saying

472
00:27:32,730 --> 00:27:35,220
you cannot, as long as you're in
line with everybody else,

473
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:40,050
extremism is the path down which
it can lead people. And what we

474
00:27:40,050 --> 00:27:44,580
can see often is that this
extreme is preaching this this

475
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,150
message of hatred, this message
of intolerance,

476
00:27:48,180 --> 00:27:51,630
oh my God, but people should be
up in arms about this, you

477
00:27:51,630 --> 00:27:55,920
should be able to hate someone
you should be able to divide

478
00:27:55,950 --> 00:27:57,390
it's crazy can actually

479
00:27:57,390 --> 00:27:58,590
lead you down a path of

480
00:27:58,590 --> 00:28:02,820
radicalization to get you to
define is at what point it

481
00:28:02,820 --> 00:28:07,200
strays into that area, at what
point it doesn't become just a

482
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,500
disagreement with you or me or
the bloke next door or the woman

483
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:13,950
next door, it becomes something
that should worry us to the

484
00:28:13,950 --> 00:28:17,460
extent that it should be banned.
That's what I'm trying to get

485
00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:18,090
out of what and

486
00:28:18,090 --> 00:28:21,090
by the way, he tries this eight
or nine times, which is boring.

487
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:23,250
But her answers were funny,
because she never got to the

488
00:28:23,250 --> 00:28:25,920
answer. But I just wanted to
pick up one,

489
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:28,140
does it qualify for being
banned?

490
00:28:28,290 --> 00:28:31,170
And obviously, when we
introduced the legislation,

491
00:28:31,170 --> 00:28:35,250
which has these banning orders,
in that legislation will be to

492
00:28:35,250 --> 00:28:39,030
ensure that we have the
definitions so that they can we

493
00:28:39,030 --> 00:28:42,120
have a definition of extremism,
which we have in our extremism,

494
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:45,450
which is satisfactory.

495
00:28:47,910 --> 00:28:49,590
Pelosi has been all over the
place on

496
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:52,800
the whole process of introducing
legislation in this country, is

497
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,410
that actually you start off with
the principle of what we want to

498
00:28:55,410 --> 00:28:58,980
do, which is to ensure that we
can promote British values, the

499
00:28:58,980 --> 00:28:59,490
values of

500
00:29:00,810 --> 00:29:03,360
promoting British values, you
can't have legislation to

501
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,470
promote British values and law
that says these are our values.

502
00:29:07,890 --> 00:29:10,620
And if you don't agree with
them, then well, well, what

503
00:29:10,620 --> 00:29:14,550
you're going to jail. Yes, yes.
Yes, you nailed it, you promote

504
00:29:14,550 --> 00:29:16,170
British values in a legalistic
sense.

505
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,170
I think I suspect that there are
many people listening to this

506
00:29:19,170 --> 00:29:22,890
program, who feel that actually
we haven't as a society. And

507
00:29:22,890 --> 00:29:23,130
this

508
00:29:23,130 --> 00:29:25,410
is this is the dangerous bit
because of course, there are

509
00:29:25,410 --> 00:29:31,080
lots of older British citizens
who are who don't understand

510
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,870
they're there. They're mad about
everything. They say, the

511
00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:36,180
country is not the way it used
to be, which always happens when

512
00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:38,730
you get older, and she's not
talking directly to them. These

513
00:29:38,730 --> 00:29:41,580
people, of course, also vote and
then we'll go out and say, Yeah,

514
00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:42,210
we're all for

515
00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:45,990
being positive enough about the
values that you

516
00:29:47,910 --> 00:29:50,250
give me a use of the phrase
again, but that's a bit woolly

517
00:29:50,250 --> 00:29:54,570
isn't it? Positive. I could run
out into the street now. And you

518
00:29:54,570 --> 00:29:56,520
couldn't say look, these are the
values we also have a wonderful

519
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,350
wonderful what somebody else
would come along and say rubbish

520
00:29:58,350 --> 00:30:00,660
I believe in something
different. Now what point what

521
00:30:00,660 --> 00:30:07,110
I'm what I'm really puzzled by
is how you get to define the,

522
00:30:07,290 --> 00:30:10,500
the line that you draw the line
at which you've crossed over

523
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:13,260
that line. And it's unacceptable
legally unacceptable.

524
00:30:14,340 --> 00:30:18,630
intelligence work takes place
within a strong legal framework.

525
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,700
We operate under the rule of law
and are accountable for it. In

526
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:26,970
southern countries secret
intelligence is used to control

527
00:30:27,060 --> 00:30:31,110
people in our lives. It only
exists to protect their

528
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:35,160
freedoms, protect their
freedoms, protect their

529
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,540
freedoms, protect the freedoms
via this this legislation could

530
00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:43,800
be solely created just to arrest
Nigel Faraj.

531
00:30:46,050 --> 00:30:51,750
I think about it I yeah, I think
that's a stretch. But I think

532
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:53,610
he's part of the system. But I

533
00:30:53,610 --> 00:30:59,040
really lobby probably I really
like the the getting permission

534
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,800
to post on social networks. I
think that's fantastic.

535
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,330
You guys think that's the way it
ought to be? UK is way

536
00:31:06,330 --> 00:31:08,220
ahead of the game. Good work.

537
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:12,960
I have people should be
protesting will be roaming the

538
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,640
streets out of pissed off them?

539
00:31:15,180 --> 00:31:19,530
Well, I think something's up
with the UK is always

540
00:31:19,530 --> 00:31:24,420
something's up. But I had this.
I've got this clip, which is

541
00:31:24,420 --> 00:31:27,120
about new trout. There's a thing
called neutrality when it comes

542
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,830
to the royal family. And the
idea is, is that they will not

543
00:31:31,860 --> 00:31:38,820
get in you get involved in
public affairs. taken care of by

544
00:31:38,820 --> 00:31:39,720
the eyes this

545
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,750
study about the Prince Charles
emails or letter? Yeah,

546
00:31:42,750 --> 00:31:43,620
this one I want to play.

547
00:31:43,650 --> 00:31:45,690
I'm glad you I'm glad you looked
at that, because I didn't

548
00:31:45,690 --> 00:31:48,330
because one of the things that
seems to be I think that this is

549
00:31:48,330 --> 00:31:52,770
a for boating, this was this
only reason this this is a new

550
00:31:52,770 --> 00:31:57,930
story. Because to me it's not is
to warn everybody that we're

551
00:31:57,930 --> 00:32:02,700
getting an activist monarch
coming your way. And he's not

552
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:05,310
going to be like Queen Elizabeth
has done a good job of kind of

553
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:08,880
staying out of it unless she has
to come in. And we know that she

554
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,820
does. And I didn't know but she
has a meeting, weekly meeting

555
00:32:11,820 --> 00:32:15,570
with the Prime Minister. Yeah,
yeah, absolutely. And then

556
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,330
things are discussed, but this
guy looks like he's a little

557
00:32:18,330 --> 00:32:23,340
more. He's not like the guy
who's just going to sit there

558
00:32:23,340 --> 00:32:28,650
and that things go. It seems to
me like an activist and I think

559
00:32:28,650 --> 00:32:30,750
that's what they're trying to
tell us in this clip. Okay, on

560
00:32:30,750 --> 00:32:33,690
the release that Prince Charles
has secret letters to government

561
00:32:33,690 --> 00:32:36,870
officials. The memo is being
made public following a 10 year

562
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:40,860
legal battle, as the heir to the
throne is expected to stay out

563
00:32:40,860 --> 00:32:43,440
of the political arena here to
talk about what these letters

564
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,480
reveal in the catalogue is live
in London with more

565
00:32:45,510 --> 00:32:48,510
Amy Hi, well, this was about
neutrality, Jenna. And of

566
00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:51,600
course, the letters show that
Prince Charles is not neutral at

567
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,440
all, but a lot of people here
commentators are arguing that

568
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,340
that is not necessarily a bad
thing, that at least he's not a

569
00:32:59,340 --> 00:33:03,060
dissolute heir to the throne or
a party prince. He is someone

570
00:33:03,060 --> 00:33:05,910
they say, who was quite
passionate about a number of

571
00:33:05,910 --> 00:33:10,710
issues from the British armed
forces to Hill farming, to

572
00:33:10,740 --> 00:33:13,410
architecture and alternative
medicine. There were no

573
00:33:13,410 --> 00:33:16,800
surprises and as much as these
were all areas the public knew

574
00:33:16,980 --> 00:33:20,430
Prince Charles was very
interested in now spokespeople

575
00:33:20,430 --> 00:33:22,830
for the Prince of Wales at
Clarence House have said that he

576
00:33:22,830 --> 00:33:26,550
cares deeply about this country
and tries to use his unique

577
00:33:26,550 --> 00:33:30,780
position to help others. The
notes were ominously called the

578
00:33:30,780 --> 00:33:34,440
black spider letters. But just
because of the wispy handwriting

579
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,830
the prince is famous for most of
what has been released kind of

580
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:41,400
disappointingly, has been typed
up. The 27 letters went out to

581
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,130
different government ministers
years ago, including former

582
00:33:44,130 --> 00:33:47,700
Prime Minister Tony Blair. In
one Charles pleads the case for

583
00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:51,180
better equipment for troops in
Iraq, saying he fears Britain's

584
00:33:51,180 --> 00:33:54,780
armed forces are quote being
asked to do an extremely

585
00:33:54,780 --> 00:33:59,010
challenging job without adequate
resources. In other letters, he

586
00:33:59,010 --> 00:34:01,230
lays out ways he thinks the
government could better help

587
00:34:01,230 --> 00:34:04,710
British farmers. Now in Britain,
the sovereign as well as the air

588
00:34:04,830 --> 00:34:07,620
are expected to be above the
fray but the Queen does have

589
00:34:07,620 --> 00:34:10,320
weekly meetings with the Prime
Minister and Prince Charles will

590
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:10,740
too.

591
00:34:11,820 --> 00:34:14,490
By being from the future, I can
put something in the book for

592
00:34:14,490 --> 00:34:18,720
you. William is going to be the
king but Prince Charles will not

593
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:19,560
be the next king.

594
00:34:22,409 --> 00:34:23,609
You think so why is this

595
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,380
unfortunate polo accident?

596
00:34:27,389 --> 00:34:31,169
Well, that would be in line with
with the British monarchy is a

597
00:34:31,169 --> 00:34:35,009
way of doing things to kill
somebody off. Yes, very.

598
00:34:35,069 --> 00:34:36,569
I'm pretty sure in history, we

599
00:34:36,569 --> 00:34:41,129
always ignore history. When we
always tomorrow we're in 2015.

600
00:34:41,129 --> 00:34:45,869
Something like that would never
happen. This was in the 1600s

601
00:34:45,869 --> 00:34:46,409
Yeah, sure. I'm

602
00:34:46,410 --> 00:34:50,760
glad you bring that up because I
am dumbfounded then I actually

603
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,920
had dinner last night with my ex
New York banker friend there who

604
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,280
of course is an Obama bot and
all in the end, what does he

605
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,100
start off with? What does he
start falling and laughing about

606
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:02,910
right away?

607
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:04,770
Republicans?

608
00:35:05,460 --> 00:35:06,510
Seymour Hersh?

609
00:35:07,050 --> 00:35:09,000
Oh, well, we got plenty on that.

610
00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:11,700
But that's why I wanted to bring
it up because I want you to lead

611
00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:18,180
it off. The thing that bothers
me is no matter this is all

612
00:35:18,180 --> 00:35:22,560
Obama bots all Democrats but
they're all in on this guy being

613
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,540
a conspiracy theorist.

614
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,840
But he's he's Pulitzer Prize
winner.

615
00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:31,950
Well, he's also highly regarded.
Yeah, but

616
00:35:31,950 --> 00:35:34,920
there's off the rails.
Completely not isn't wing nut.

617
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,660
Oh, my God. See what happened to
see what they poisoned him? No,

618
00:35:40,770 --> 00:35:44,130
not for one second. Has anyone
said hmm, maybe there's

619
00:35:44,130 --> 00:35:45,120
something to it.

620
00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:49,920
Okay, this story is there's a
couple of angles in this. It

621
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,710
goes in different directions.
First of all,

622
00:35:53,250 --> 00:35:55,740
let me explain the background of
the story. Actually, I

623
00:35:55,740 --> 00:35:56,910
have a background clip here.

624
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:02,100
I love it. Summary intro I'm
presuming. Warren insults.

625
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,080
Sorry. Intro I'm presuming.

626
00:36:04,589 --> 00:36:06,089
That would be that would be

627
00:36:06,270 --> 00:36:09,450
more sources are confirming a
key claiming an explosive story

628
00:36:09,450 --> 00:36:11,790
challenging the Obama
administration to counter the

629
00:36:11,790 --> 00:36:14,970
killing of Osama bin Laden.
Investigative journalist Seymour

630
00:36:14,970 --> 00:36:18,090
Hersh reported this weekend a
former Pakistani intelligence

631
00:36:18,090 --> 00:36:22,080
officer disclosed in London's
location to the CIA. Her said us

632
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,900
claims that found Bin Laden by
tracking his personal courier

633
00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:28,740
were false. NBC News confirmed
Hirsch's claim of the informant

634
00:36:28,740 --> 00:36:31,260
through three different
intelligence sources. Now the

635
00:36:31,260 --> 00:36:34,560
Pakistani newspaper the news
reports Pakistani officials are

636
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,530
also acknowledging the story and
have identified the officers

637
00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:41,670
Huisman Khalid Hirsch's story
says the officer received a $25

638
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:44,820
million bounty and is now living
under us protection near

639
00:36:44,820 --> 00:36:48,120
Washington Carlotta Gall, a New
York Times reporter who spent

640
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,880
years in Afghanistan and
Pakistan is also now claiming

641
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,090
she heard from a high level
Pakistani source that Pakistan

642
00:36:54,090 --> 00:36:58,140
was hiding bin Laden and later
that an officer had told the CIA

643
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,960
girl says she did not publish
the story because she could not

644
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,110
corroborate it in the United
States. Meanwhile, National

645
00:37:04,110 --> 00:37:07,800
Security blogger RJ Hillhouse is
pointing out she reported some

646
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,620
of Hirsch's key claims four
years ago, while they're already

647
00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:14,250
going down to bloggers in August
2011. Hill House wrote on her

648
00:37:14,250 --> 00:37:18,000
blog that the informant who led
the CIA to bin Laden was a walk

649
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,600
in seeking financial
compensation, and that Pakistani

650
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,020
officials were keeping Bin Laden
under house arrest with Saudi

651
00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:26,670
financial support for

652
00:37:26,670 --> 00:37:29,550
you give your analysis John, I
have three quick clips that I

653
00:37:29,550 --> 00:37:32,130
think provide even more
background and also a little bit

654
00:37:32,130 --> 00:37:37,080
of the mockery of Seymour Hersh,
as he appeared on Anderson

655
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,230
Cooper's program on CNN. So I
thought I'd just play those if

656
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:41,430
you don't mind. So,

657
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,760
starters, you assert that the
official American version of

658
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,730
what happened to Salman Bin
Laden is almost entirely false.

659
00:37:47,730 --> 00:37:50,670
You said the Pakistanis were
hiding Bin Laden that they knew

660
00:37:50,670 --> 00:37:53,580
about the raid that there was no
firefight in the compound that

661
00:37:53,580 --> 00:37:56,850
the Saudis were fronting bin
Laden's expenses that the US

662
00:37:56,850 --> 00:37:59,580
didn't bury Bin Laden at sea,
they tossed it, what remained of

663
00:37:59,580 --> 00:38:02,880
his body basically outside out
of the helicopter, what motive

664
00:38:02,910 --> 00:38:06,630
would the US have for lying
about this? And not just the US

665
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:08,430
but the Pakistanis and the
Saudis?

666
00:38:08,609 --> 00:38:12,299
Most of what you said is pretty
much what I write in this most

667
00:38:12,299 --> 00:38:16,679
recent article of mine. And all
I can tell you, is, as far as I

668
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:20,429
think the simple way to describe
it. The President, our President

669
00:38:20,429 --> 00:38:23,819
did authorized the raid, the
seals carried it out. They did

670
00:38:23,819 --> 00:38:26,219
kill bin Laden, they got in and
out successfully, and the rest

671
00:38:26,219 --> 00:38:27,329
of it is sort of hogwash.

672
00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:31,679
And here is the the conspiracy
mean, but But

673
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,120
why? I mean, why would there be
this what you're alleging is a

674
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,420
massive conspiracy involving
what would have to be dozens of

675
00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:39,930
people

676
00:38:39,959 --> 00:38:43,769
this impossible. How could it
ever happen? This I love this

677
00:38:43,769 --> 00:38:46,169
one. So many people were
involved, somebody would have

678
00:38:46,169 --> 00:38:48,089
leaked it. It can't be true

679
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,960
in three different countries
that has sustained itself until

680
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,650
now. What would be the motive
for for setting up this

681
00:38:55,650 --> 00:38:57,480
elaborate hoax hoax a

682
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,950
critical thing Anderson that
happened is we weren't supposed

683
00:39:01,950 --> 00:39:05,250
to go public. But the rate the
deal with Pasha and Kiani and

684
00:39:05,250 --> 00:39:08,880
the rest of the staff of the
Pakistan upper reaches of the

685
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,350
Pakistani military community was
we're gonna The seals are gonna

686
00:39:13,350 --> 00:39:18,270
go in, kill this guy grabbed the
body take it out. Seven to 10

687
00:39:18,270 --> 00:39:21,720
days I've had two different
numbers. Later, the President we

688
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:24,210
were going to announce the
President Obama was going to

689
00:39:24,210 --> 00:39:27,090
announce that oh my god, we did
a drone strike drone strike and

690
00:39:27,090 --> 00:39:31,290
Waziristan the sort of no man's
land between Pakistan and

691
00:39:31,350 --> 00:39:35,130
Afghanistan, the Hindu Kush
mountain area. We did a drone

692
00:39:35,130 --> 00:39:38,160
strike. And my God, we saw this
big guy, he looked familiar. We

693
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,030
took pictures, we took DNA we
got we got bin Laden. Instead,

694
00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:45,570
the night of the raid, the
president for the only thing.

695
00:39:45,930 --> 00:39:47,820
The people talked to me,
obviously military and

696
00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:50,220
intelligence people their belief
that he did it for political

697
00:39:50,220 --> 00:39:53,220
purposes. I don't know what was
in the President's mind. He

698
00:39:53,220 --> 00:39:55,410
announced instead immediately
that we got him.

699
00:39:55,770 --> 00:39:58,200
But look, there are plenty of
people who share your skepticism

700
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,360
but in this situation, I mean,
they're actually members,

701
00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:03,030
members of Seal Team Six Matt
Bissonnette, Robert and Neil who

702
00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:05,910
have gone public have said that
the raid did in fact happen

703
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:08,640
basically, as the government
said, their comrades put their

704
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,280
lives at risk were shot out in
the compound. There were bullet

705
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,890
holes all over the place. Are
you saying they're lying?

706
00:40:15,150 --> 00:40:18,000
I'm saying I can tell you one
thing. I don't know about oh,

707
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,400
Neil, Neil said, we went in
thinking we were gonna die,

708
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,370
which I think is a great
exaggeration. And Bissonnette he

709
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,340
also wrote a book, I think, no
easy day or something like that.

710
00:40:27,570 --> 00:40:29,370
Certainly was not telling you
the truth about that.

711
00:40:29,370 --> 00:40:31,650
Absolutely. I think that his
book was, there was a lot of

712
00:40:31,650 --> 00:40:33,630
stuff. Interesting, his book,
but there was a lot of stuff,

713
00:40:33,810 --> 00:40:37,050
operational stuff that everybody
most of his fellow seals sort of

714
00:40:37,050 --> 00:40:37,620
laugh at.

715
00:40:37,890 --> 00:40:41,040
All right. I'll skip the third
clip that was longer than I

716
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,830
wanted it to be. Even Dan,
actually,

717
00:40:43,830 --> 00:40:48,900
I heard her show on Democracy
Now. And they let him talk. Uh

718
00:40:48,900 --> 00:40:52,800
huh. And he said the same kind
of things. He's, he's kind of

719
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,300
fine tuning it, but he talks too
long. And but I do have a short

720
00:40:57,300 --> 00:41:00,930
clip of him giving kind of
similar to the one you just

721
00:41:00,930 --> 00:41:04,380
played, but kind of explaining
what happened was that Obama?

722
00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:08,040
And it makes sense. I mean, I'm
not sure why Cooper can't see

723
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:08,130
the

724
00:41:08,130 --> 00:41:11,220
logic of the political or the
political reason that is so

725
00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:14,520
obvious. We even on the show,
this is coincidental. We killed

726
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,760
the dead guy again, just before
you know, we're ramping up for

727
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,780
the re election.

728
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:22,260
Right? That would be one thesis.
And this none of this happened

729
00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:25,170
in any way that we have. Then we
also have the two seals who both

730
00:41:25,170 --> 00:41:27,120
claimed to have killed Obama
which,

731
00:41:28,050 --> 00:41:31,830
which, by the way, seals,
they're not football spikers you

732
00:41:31,830 --> 00:41:35,550
know, we also have another thing
Yeah, we had we had an hour and

733
00:41:35,550 --> 00:41:38,670
two gone colluding with
Hollywood on Zero Dark 30 We

734
00:41:38,670 --> 00:41:42,510
never had photos of of the
burial at sea or anything. We

735
00:41:42,510 --> 00:41:44,970
had some create a lot of
internet memes like

736
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,770
play Hirsch. yakking. We said,

737
00:41:46,770 --> 00:41:50,040
as you said in the introduction,
there was a firefight. And Obama

738
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,950
was and bin Laden was killed in
it. That's the cover the idea

739
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:56,760
that it was an outloud murder.
And he said also, in the fight

740
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,390
that he also said, treasure
trove of material was recovered,

741
00:42:00,630 --> 00:42:03,060
we have yet to see it. And I
raised a lot of questions about

742
00:42:03,060 --> 00:42:06,450
what was covered, what was
collected. At one point, the

743
00:42:06,450 --> 00:42:09,660
seals were said to have taken 15
computers out of there. But if

744
00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:13,050
you read everything that was
written, it also was written and

745
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,630
said many times, there was no
internet connection and about

746
00:42:15,630 --> 00:42:20,580
about, there was no sign of any
operational, operational CAFO

747
00:42:20,610 --> 00:42:25,350
capability of bin Laden at all.
And one of the problems with the

748
00:42:25,740 --> 00:42:29,040
protecting the walk in when you
you had to protect the walk. And

749
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,200
one of the reasons you didn't
want to talk about a walk in was

750
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,590
you, you don't do that. And so
we had

751
00:42:34,740 --> 00:42:36,930
to be the guy who reveal to the
US.

752
00:42:38,250 --> 00:42:42,450
Karma walk in, and the President
actually said in the speech, we

753
00:42:42,450 --> 00:42:47,040
had a lead and he said we had a
lead in August of 2010, which

754
00:42:47,070 --> 00:42:49,830
really for a lot of people in
the intelligence community that

755
00:42:49,830 --> 00:42:52,800
was too close to the mark, a
lead need something specific

756
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,500
happened then and that's when
the walk in went to see a guy

757
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,900
named Jonathan banks, the
station chief, a very competent

758
00:42:57,900 --> 00:43:00,990
guy from everything I hear the
station chief for the CIA in

759
00:43:00,990 --> 00:43:05,790
Islamabad. And they we had a
call in lie detector to people

760
00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:08,610
from Washington had to find into
the debrief, the guy concluded

761
00:43:08,610 --> 00:43:12,180
he was telling the truth. It was
a big piece of evidence anyway,

762
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,720
but you have to get around that
story. So you create the courier

763
00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:19,980
story that the CIA was bringing
work. And, and initially, they

764
00:43:19,980 --> 00:43:23,280
wanted to say through an
enhanced interrogation found out

765
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,670
about a courier who led him to
bin Laden. That is such a that

766
00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:29,340
is really an outrageous story.
And they sold it to a movie

767
00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:35,070
called The No, he was at the
very dark. That was the thesis

768
00:43:35,070 --> 00:43:37,770
of the movie that also included
the torture element. Absolutely

769
00:43:37,770 --> 00:43:38,250
not. So

770
00:43:38,910 --> 00:43:40,680
all right, John, your analysis?

771
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,130
Well, there's a couple of things
going on. One is the possibility

772
00:43:44,130 --> 00:43:46,470
that's the whole thing was
misdirection. He was fed all

773
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:50,250
this information and wrote a
very long article with some

774
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,660
pretty juicy stuff. And it's
very, an add more logical

775
00:43:54,720 --> 00:44:01,290
explanation. But the problem I
have with the story, besides the

776
00:44:01,290 --> 00:44:06,450
potential of it being kind of
planted with him to keep us keep

777
00:44:06,450 --> 00:44:11,550
this Obama killed by the seals
at this moment, alive when his

778
00:44:11,550 --> 00:44:16,740
possibly he was already dead, is
the is the fact that he and he

779
00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:19,050
talked about this, I couldn't
reclip it because it was just

780
00:44:19,050 --> 00:44:22,950
part of a longer exposition. He
does discuss that on they've

781
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:27,990
accused me of plagiarism. By the
way, I sent you the two links

782
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:30,630
here in the show notes. There's
this woman that was mentioned in

783
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:36,210
the earlier piece named Dr. J.
Hill House who's a very screwy

784
00:44:36,210 --> 00:44:41,400
person, and she's a She's like
an independent contracting spy

785
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,390
of some sort. And she wrote the
the main points that are

786
00:44:45,420 --> 00:44:51,000
discussed by Hersh were
discussed by her in August 7 of

787
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,690
2011. And an article she wrote
on her on her blog, which is

788
00:44:54,690 --> 00:45:02,670
called the spy who build me And
the blog is mostly about

789
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:08,940
outsourcing spy work. And this
blog was titled Bin Laden turned

790
00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:13,080
in by informant courier was
cover story. This was in 2011.

791
00:45:13,290 --> 00:45:17,130
And in here the main points that
Hirsch makes are made by her

792
00:45:17,220 --> 00:45:21,570
punch. They're made by her in a
blog post, which is probably 600

793
00:45:21,570 --> 00:45:25,770
words long, not 10,000. And and
it's done in a kind of a no

794
00:45:25,770 --> 00:45:31,200
agenda style of snide ridiculing
the snide, and the obvious

795
00:45:31,230 --> 00:45:35,250
question, are we very sure this
is this was posted in 2011. And

796
00:45:35,250 --> 00:45:36,270
I backdated.

797
00:45:36,810 --> 00:45:40,260
I would mention that that this
possible this was posted later,

798
00:45:40,830 --> 00:45:45,360
but the way it was she claims
and I think there's I will

799
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,830
believe that this is true,
because she claims that in 2011,

800
00:45:49,830 --> 00:45:52,170
and she I guess there's some
documents we could look into,

801
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,740
there was some people were
pointing to it, right because

802
00:45:55,740 --> 00:45:58,260
her says he never saw this
article as knowing anything

803
00:45:58,260 --> 00:45:59,190
about it. So now that

804
00:45:59,190 --> 00:46:01,950
not only is there going to brand
him a conspiracy theorist, but

805
00:46:01,950 --> 00:46:04,980
also a plagiarist. You might
even just chop the guy's head

806
00:46:04,980 --> 00:46:05,310
off.

807
00:46:05,460 --> 00:46:09,240
The problem is is not
plagiarism. Okay, it's lifting a

808
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:12,330
thesis, it's not plagiarism in
any way. Plagiarism is when you

809
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,920
copy verbatim Yeah. And I think
then he was worked about being

810
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,530
called a plagiarist already, and
then it was then people kind of

811
00:46:19,530 --> 00:46:22,560
ignored the rest of the story,
which is that maybe he's not a

812
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,800
plagiarist. But he lifted the
thesis.

813
00:46:26,190 --> 00:46:33,030
Regardless, this little bitch
fest results in obfuscating the

814
00:46:33,330 --> 00:46:38,640
what I believe to be the case
that bin Laden died many many

815
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,650
years ago he's been dead and
just being held up as a

816
00:46:40,650 --> 00:46:44,610
boogeyman for the right moment
for you know, have ever seen

817
00:46:45,810 --> 00:46:50,220
evidence of that but there is I
think to look at you want to

818
00:46:50,220 --> 00:46:52,770
look into some you have to get a
hold of like, did somebody get

819
00:46:52,770 --> 00:46:53,820
$25 million?

820
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:55,530
Or a portion of it? Yeah.

821
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,360
Everybody seems to say that
somebody did you want to see

822
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,730
that? We want to find out the
guy over there in a bottle bod.

823
00:47:03,060 --> 00:47:05,190
Now he's always outside of
Washington DC now

824
00:47:05,970 --> 00:47:08,940
with a Ferrari that's the guy
you want. Yeah, look for the

825
00:47:08,940 --> 00:47:09,870
Ferrari Pakistani

826
00:47:09,870 --> 00:47:13,290
driving around in fancy car
driving Uber with a Ferrari I'm

827
00:47:13,290 --> 00:47:16,320
so all her conclusions by
looking at what we do, which I

828
00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:19,470
kind of admired the logic of
some of the stuff and let me

829
00:47:19,470 --> 00:47:23,190
just read a paragraph from this
particular post. The cooperation

830
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:25,800
was why there were no troops and
about about the overall pulled

831
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,040
out it had seemed very far
fetched to me that a helicopter

832
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,620
could crash and later be
destroyed in an area of high

833
00:47:31,620 --> 00:47:35,910
military concentration without
the Pakistanis noticing. We that

834
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:40,470
we discussed this earlier. But
then it seemed even wilder to

835
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:45,300
believe that a US Navy SEAL dev
Gru actually shot a woman who

836
00:47:45,300 --> 00:47:50,250
rushed them in the leg. Yeah,
right. I know these guys the

837
00:47:50,250 --> 00:47:52,830
only way they'll shoot a woman
in the leg is if they're double

838
00:47:52,830 --> 00:47:56,370
tapping a head or chest and the
leg got in the way through

839
00:47:56,370 --> 00:48:01,110
shoots the kill. Agreed. Yeah,
and then you say that this is

840
00:48:01,110 --> 00:48:03,450
the kind of thing that she's
doing. She says the cover cover

841
00:48:03,450 --> 00:48:06,360
story was going to be a drone
strike in Pakistan which is all

842
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,160
again reiterated by Hersh things
went south when the helicopter

843
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,070
crashed the White House freaked
and the cooperating Pakistanis

844
00:48:14,070 --> 00:48:19,170
were thrown under the bus and it
was obvious there was logical

845
00:48:19,170 --> 00:48:24,750
that you can imagine I've always
had the sense that Obama is not

846
00:48:25,050 --> 00:48:28,620
the kind of guy who you could
fully trust in some really

847
00:48:28,650 --> 00:48:33,990
elaborate operation in terms of
not throwing you under the bus

848
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:39,660
to get his get his getting an
advantage I could look into the

849
00:48:40,020 --> 00:48:44,790
August 7 2011 Posting see if
it's been was past posted but I

850
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:47,910
get the sense that it wasn't
mainly because of the site than

851
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:51,030
when she she seems really
adamant and but she is kind of a

852
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:53,700
freelance spy herself and she
probably would do anything for

853
00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:54,870
money by her she's

854
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:57,870
staking his reputation and
what's left of it on and Hershey

855
00:48:57,870 --> 00:49:03,390
has been a fan of this guy but
he's done huge stories huge

856
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,520
skate, you know, I think he was
I think this was a setup at some

857
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:14,550
way much you know I don't even
though this may have been given

858
00:49:14,550 --> 00:49:17,370
to him on a silver platter I
have no idea because we know

859
00:49:17,370 --> 00:49:21,870
that intelligence agencies do
that with all these writers

860
00:49:21,900 --> 00:49:24,540
Well, I mean I haven't paid
attention to is what is it?

861
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,130
What's the who what where.com I
think is his blog. Hirsch's

862
00:49:29,460 --> 00:49:31,140
Yeah something like maybe there
would

863
00:49:31,140 --> 00:49:34,050
just annoyed by him in general.
Let's just get this guy out of

864
00:49:34,050 --> 00:49:35,580
the way there. Let me just play
this quick.

865
00:49:36,359 --> 00:49:39,389
Here right. See I don't believe
that either. I don't think

866
00:49:39,389 --> 00:49:42,689
they're getting him out of the
way. This is not this the

867
00:49:42,689 --> 00:49:47,459
demonic damage to his reputation
is minor. And you have this

868
00:49:47,459 --> 00:49:51,689
woman who nobody knows. Dr. Jay
Hill House. Nobody reads your

869
00:49:51,689 --> 00:49:55,919
blog. It's just not it'll just
blow over. And in fact, the

870
00:49:55,919 --> 00:49:58,289
whole thing will blow over I
think even the White House in

871
00:49:58,289 --> 00:50:01,229
there. Here. Do I have a White
House? A clip on this

872
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:04,950
is this. Josh Earnest Joshi,

873
00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:09,810
I can tell you that the Obama
White House is not the only one

874
00:50:09,810 --> 00:50:17,370
to observe that the story is
riddled with inaccuracies and

875
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:21,810
outright falsehoods. The former
deputy director of the CIA, Mike

876
00:50:21,810 --> 00:50:25,110
Morel said that every sentence
was wrong.

877
00:50:26,070 --> 00:50:29,400
And he stopped right there.
There's another one that comes

878
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,220
up after every sentence was
wrong. Now, that's not even a

879
00:50:32,220 --> 00:50:37,350
possibility in any dimension.
But saying every sentence was

880
00:50:37,350 --> 00:50:41,490
wrong, doesn't mean it was
inaccurate. No, if you think

881
00:50:41,490 --> 00:50:45,450
about it, but oh my god, this is
you know, it's like, they say

882
00:50:45,450 --> 00:50:47,730
something's an assertion of some
sort. And it's, oh, this is

883
00:50:47,730 --> 00:50:50,580
wrong. This is wrong. They
shouldn't say that. Oh, that's

884
00:50:50,580 --> 00:50:54,600
wrong. That's wrong. Oh, they
did bad things. That's wrong.

885
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:58,020
I'm going to agree with you that
it was not set up to discredit

886
00:50:58,020 --> 00:51:01,440
Hirsch. But I think the media is
very happy about that. And it

887
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,610
makes everybody happy to turn
him into a kook because without

888
00:51:05,610 --> 00:51:09,420
fail he this has been called a
conspiracy theory you might the

889
00:51:09,420 --> 00:51:13,110
only thing worse is to call
someone a Republican. That is

890
00:51:13,170 --> 00:51:18,420
what is being said about him.
And I'm just surprised when he

891
00:51:18,420 --> 00:51:20,910
went off into his own little
independent venture

892
00:51:21,180 --> 00:51:27,720
Well, I find it I'm surprised
that you have Democrats like the

893
00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:31,320
like the banker because I you
get the sense that Amy Goodman

894
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,490
is not thinking that way on
Democracy Now. They just give a

895
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,570
talk here you go take as much
time as you want. But the

896
00:51:39,570 --> 00:51:44,460
Democrats that were upset by the
me Lai massacre, which is what

897
00:51:44,460 --> 00:51:48,120
get where you got to start by
revealing that and and his

898
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:53,040
mostly during the Bush
administration condemning Bush's

899
00:51:53,070 --> 00:51:58,500
you know, everything from the
from the Patriot Act and, and on

900
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,040
and Cheney. I mean, her she was
just again, her she was actually

901
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,860
anti administration, no matter
who is in there, but during this

902
00:52:04,860 --> 00:52:09,060
little period where he sounded
really nutty. They're all in Oh,

903
00:52:09,060 --> 00:52:12,720
this guy. Look, he's proven that
bush ism is horrible. He's dumb,

904
00:52:12,780 --> 00:52:14,940
right? He's dumb. He's smart.
He's dumb.

905
00:52:15,570 --> 00:52:19,590
Oh, I should have remembered
that. Yes. So he Oh, the guy who

906
00:52:19,620 --> 00:52:22,110
said, George W. Bush is dumb.

907
00:52:22,590 --> 00:52:25,500
is dumb, but went but he's a
genius. He's an evil genius, but

908
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:29,040
no as Cheney. The whole thing
was ridiculous. But nobody was

909
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,490
criticizing her stem. But go say
something bad about Obama,

910
00:52:32,490 --> 00:52:35,820
Obama. Obama, like, Oh, my God,
that guy's a kook. He's a

911
00:52:35,820 --> 00:52:38,970
conspiracy theorist. I think
this is more a function of these

912
00:52:38,970 --> 00:52:39,930
Obama bots.

913
00:52:40,259 --> 00:52:43,979
But here's Anderson Cooper does
this interview with with her

914
00:52:44,009 --> 00:52:48,959
then he brings on their expert.
This is I think Peter Bergen, of

915
00:52:48,959 --> 00:52:51,299
course, is a Brit. You see if
you want it to sound credible,

916
00:52:51,299 --> 00:52:54,059
you got to have an English
accent than me. Oh, yes. He must

917
00:52:54,059 --> 00:52:54,719
be right here.

918
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:56,910
Um, you've heard what sigh
Herschend said tonight. And also

919
00:52:56,910 --> 00:52:59,700
in the article. He's gonna
remind you Anderson Cooper

920
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:02,730
worked at the CIA got a you
know, tremendous history as a

921
00:53:02,730 --> 00:53:05,340
journalist. He's broken
important stories years ago.

922
00:53:05,460 --> 00:53:06,420
What do you make of this?

923
00:53:06,450 --> 00:53:10,230
Notice that years ago, back when
he wasn't before he was insane

924
00:53:10,260 --> 00:53:11,940
years ago? That was

925
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,450
important stories years ago.
What do you make of this one?

926
00:53:15,660 --> 00:53:19,020
That's all true Anderson. But I
mean, you know, the firefight

927
00:53:19,020 --> 00:53:21,750
that took place at the bin Laden
compound is just sort of

928
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:24,360
incontrovertibly true. The idea
that this was some kind of piece

929
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,790
of performance art cooked up by
the United States in the

930
00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:29,550
Pakistanis is not, there's no
evidence for that.

931
00:53:29,580 --> 00:53:32,280
He also never said performance
art, but I like I like to

932
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,600
discredit to Peter Berg. In

933
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,370
fact, there's a lot of
countervailing evidence you

934
00:53:35,370 --> 00:53:38,520
mentioned in your interview, you
have the two seals on the record

935
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,820
explaining about the firefights
I saw with my own eyes, the

936
00:53:41,820 --> 00:53:45,510
damage that this very violent
raid inflicted on the compound

937
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:46,680
before it was demolished. He's

938
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,470
saying there were no other shots
fired, other than the shots that

939
00:53:49,470 --> 00:53:50,190
killed Bin Laden.

940
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,740
That's right. And, you know,
that's, I mean,

941
00:53:55,170 --> 00:53:58,800
you this this is, this is the
mockery. This is the mockery,

942
00:53:58,830 --> 00:54:03,960
you saw bullet holes. And he
said, they're expert, Peter

943
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:08,400
Bergens. Brit, he was probably
also an engineer before he put

944
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:09,300
in front of camera I

945
00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:11,790
mean, I you know, there was a
quite an intense exchange of

946
00:54:11,790 --> 00:54:13,290
fire with one of the bodyguards
over

947
00:54:14,069 --> 00:54:16,859
which now the guy's talking like
he was there, and this is all

948
00:54:16,859 --> 00:54:17,609
true, I don't

949
00:54:17,610 --> 00:54:20,640
know dozens of bullet holes and
doesn't one of the houses in the

950
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,060
compound before they even got to
bin Laden. So you know, that

951
00:54:24,090 --> 00:54:27,270
sort of factual element just is
we can set it there was a

952
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:29,760
firefight this wasn't some sort
of setup between the US and the

953
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,030
Pakistanis as he as which is one
of the principal claims,

954
00:54:33,180 --> 00:54:40,290
please shut up. Fine. I agree. I
think I think it was duped. He

955
00:54:40,290 --> 00:54:45,180
was duped but it was all just to
keep the the Osama bin Laden is

956
00:54:45,180 --> 00:54:46,770
alive mean going.

957
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,410
No, I mean, dad

958
00:54:50,070 --> 00:54:53,670
know that he was he would know
that he was still alive and then

959
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:54,330
they kill Yeah,

960
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,780
that he was still. I'm sorry,
being dead for a year.

961
00:54:57,870 --> 00:55:00,930
Yeah. And how many seals died in
that? Hello. copter accident who

962
00:55:00,930 --> 00:55:03,540
were apparently there and then
the seals crashed

963
00:55:04,050 --> 00:55:06,570
well they were there when the
for when the first story came

964
00:55:06,570 --> 00:55:09,000
out they were in there then the
second story about it they

965
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,930
weren't there they were a
different group Yeah the whole

966
00:55:12,930 --> 00:55:16,830
thing is messed up yeah there's
too many you know there's like

967
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,720
and I think her point about this
woman being shot in the leg

968
00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:22,080
yeah

969
00:55:23,250 --> 00:55:26,220
well taken she has a few other
one of these but again these

970
00:55:26,220 --> 00:55:31,560
were these were not much of it
wasn't she doc she said she had

971
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,890
some people in the in the
intelligence community that told

972
00:55:34,890 --> 00:55:41,790
her this story. And it's a good
thing to read. It's a very short

973
00:55:41,790 --> 00:55:45,930
piece like 600 words. And she
says begins with forget the

974
00:55:45,930 --> 00:55:48,750
cover story of waterboarding
leads the courier leads to bin

975
00:55:48,750 --> 00:55:51,570
Laden, not to deny the
effectiveness of waterboarding.

976
00:55:51,570 --> 00:55:54,720
So she's all in on that. But
it's just not applicable sources

977
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:57,360
in the intelligence community
tell me after years of trying,

978
00:55:57,540 --> 00:56:01,650
and one bureaucratically insane
near miss in Yemen, the US

979
00:56:01,650 --> 00:56:04,830
government killed OBL because a
Pakistani intelligence officer

980
00:56:04,830 --> 00:56:07,980
came forward to collect the
approximately $25 million reward

981
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,980
in the Rewards for Justice
program we

982
00:56:11,220 --> 00:56:18,240
Yeah, rewards for justice.net
Yeah, all right. So we remain

983
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:22,710
fans of Hersh Yeah, but we think
he was he was duped that can

984
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:24,450
happen happens to us

985
00:56:24,450 --> 00:56:27,300
all course it can happen to
anybody. Yeah, of course. And

986
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:30,420
and why did this run into London
book review?

987
00:56:30,450 --> 00:56:32,910
You can no one else would
publish it. That's what I heard.

988
00:56:33,150 --> 00:56:35,940
The New York Times wouldn't
publish it. No one wanted it.

989
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,380
Why don't well that's another
suspicious very suspicious

990
00:56:40,410 --> 00:56:46,800
because this guy's money. So
it's like you know this it's

991
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,530
like these valuable football
players you know, they get

992
00:56:49,530 --> 00:56:51,750
kicked off one team and
everybody's clamoring for him

993
00:56:51,750 --> 00:56:55,470
because it because it's money.
Right? You got to Hirsch article

994
00:56:55,470 --> 00:56:58,050
you make you make out I mean,
you get your name out there. He

995
00:56:58,050 --> 00:57:01,050
the people he gets a lot of
attention. We know that. And

996
00:57:01,050 --> 00:57:02,130
this was a good story,

997
00:57:02,340 --> 00:57:06,720
even though it is unlikely
untrue. I do like the fact that

998
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:09,420
we're so badass, we just kick
the bits and pieces of the guy

999
00:57:09,420 --> 00:57:10,980
out of the helicopter. That's
the story.

1000
00:57:11,550 --> 00:57:14,460
Well, the first talks about
this, I think somebody else did

1001
00:57:14,460 --> 00:57:18,210
too, that gets the pitch out
that he was not only shot, he

1002
00:57:18,210 --> 00:57:21,000
wasn't shot in the head. But he
was shot throughout the body to

1003
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,870
the point where his his neck was
severed, and his head was off.

1004
00:57:25,260 --> 00:57:28,890
And his one of his arms, I guess
fell off. Because he was just

1005
00:57:29,130 --> 00:57:33,720
riddled with these with these
machine gun fire or whatever

1006
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,080
they were using. So he was just
dead and put like, damn near in

1007
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:43,140
his suitcase. And her head is
gone. To get you know, get him

1008
00:57:43,140 --> 00:57:46,020
out of there. So good. That's
very

1009
00:57:46,049 --> 00:57:48,929
colorful. All right. No other
conclusion.

1010
00:57:49,650 --> 00:57:53,160
Not really. It just I don't know
if how long does that? I don't

1011
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,420
think it says that much later.

1012
00:57:54,450 --> 00:57:58,830
Well, one thing's for sure. From
this day forward. Whenever Sy

1013
00:57:58,830 --> 00:58:03,420
Hersh has a breaking story.
It'll be preceded by, you know,

1014
00:58:03,420 --> 00:58:07,170
the conspiracy theorists about
Osama bin Laden not being killed

1015
00:58:07,170 --> 00:58:10,470
the way he was. Yeah, that guy
has a story. It's going to be

1016
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:10,710
it's,

1017
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,770
you know, one of the reasons if
you read that second article,

1018
00:58:13,770 --> 00:58:17,820
the more recent article by this
woman bitching about her being

1019
00:58:17,820 --> 00:58:23,760
ripped off. She she says in its
very funny article, because

1020
00:58:23,970 --> 00:58:27,300
apparently, Hirsch claims you
can't you really use the

1021
00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:29,790
internet that well, because you
would have discovered this

1022
00:58:29,790 --> 00:58:33,210
article she says, I am thinking
which I which leads me to

1023
00:58:33,210 --> 00:58:35,730
believe that this might have
been something of a Senate

1024
00:58:35,730 --> 00:58:41,100
because Hirsch as an any me for
example, if I was going to write

1025
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:44,640
this story, and I had run across
this woman's article, which

1026
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,920
pretty much says much of the
same thing doesn't talk about a

1027
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,310
lot of the stuff he discusses.
But the main thesis is all he

1028
00:58:50,310 --> 00:58:52,620
would have referenced you would
have to credit her you would

1029
00:58:52,620 --> 00:58:54,150
have referenced that of course,
course you

1030
00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:57,270
just say oh and and so on. So
this is this isn't even new.

1031
00:58:57,270 --> 00:59:01,290
This was first discussed in
2011, by RJ Hillhouse and you're

1032
00:59:01,290 --> 00:59:05,820
done. And that's what you do to
get around if you're, if you're

1033
00:59:05,820 --> 00:59:09,840
lifting as a writer, if you're
lifting somebody else's idea,

1034
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,570
and you and you want to expound
it by expand upon it, you want

1035
00:59:12,570 --> 00:59:15,630
to you want to say well, this,
she's got some of the most of

1036
00:59:15,630 --> 00:59:18,360
this, right, but she's not
talking enough. And she's not

1037
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:22,440
there's not enough details here.
You credit her and then you go

1038
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,560
into the stuff you want to write
about and your your, your, your

1039
00:59:25,770 --> 00:59:29,160
clear, right, and the fact that
and he knows that and he knows

1040
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:33,030
how to do that. And everybody
does. He would have done it. He

1041
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:35,580
didn't do that. So I get the
sense that something else was up

1042
00:59:35,580 --> 00:59:43,950
here that he was set up. Yeah.
He's too much of a pro to let

1043
00:59:43,950 --> 00:59:47,130
this sort of thing happened to
him. All right. Anyway, so

1044
00:59:47,549 --> 00:59:52,229
before we get to our opening
credits, I did want to mention

1045
00:59:52,229 --> 00:59:59,519
something that popped into the
news feed about the radio topia,

1046
00:59:59,549 --> 01:00:04,379
this is The the Podcast Network.
Another one? Well, now this is

1047
01:00:04,379 --> 01:00:10,439
the one that has what do you
call it? Serial is in here and

1048
01:00:10,469 --> 01:00:15,209
the 99% available? Yeah. Right.
So the Knight Foundation has

1049
01:00:15,209 --> 01:00:20,609
invested invested is the title
$1 million in. So they've

1050
01:00:20,609 --> 01:00:23,999
donated that, I presume, to
radio topia. So he's a

1051
01:00:23,999 --> 01:00:27,209
podcasting network, who just
received a million dollars from

1052
01:00:27,209 --> 01:00:31,889
the Knight Foundation. What is
interesting about this is the,

1053
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:37,109
what you're seeing now is the
people who make this public

1054
01:00:37,109 --> 01:00:41,129
radio programming. This also
includes This American Life. And

1055
01:00:41,159 --> 01:00:43,649
the all of this is our
commercial companies that make

1056
01:00:43,649 --> 01:00:48,119
this they sell it through the
National Public Radio

1057
01:00:48,119 --> 01:00:52,199
Foundation, who then distribute
it to radio stations, they own

1058
01:00:52,199 --> 01:00:54,839
we know that they all have
advertising upfront of the doing

1059
01:00:54,839 --> 01:00:58,169
live reads, and they're going
way above and beyond anything

1060
01:00:58,169 --> 01:01:03,449
that NPR can do on the radio, by
by law, by the definite their

1061
01:01:03,449 --> 01:01:05,819
statutes. That's how they
receive government funding and

1062
01:01:05,819 --> 01:01:10,109
how they remain nonprofits. But
now you're seeing these guys are

1063
01:01:10,109 --> 01:01:14,429
also hyped up and excited. That
was saying, hey, it's time for a

1064
01:01:14,429 --> 01:01:17,459
capitalism to come to Public
Radio. There. We need

1065
01:01:17,459 --> 01:01:23,519
advertising. Oh, yeah. Yeah, let
me say, who said this, it was.

1066
01:01:25,619 --> 01:01:29,729
But Ira Glass, my hope is that
we can move away from a model of

1067
01:01:29,729 --> 01:01:33,509
asking listeners for money and
join the free market, public

1068
01:01:33,509 --> 01:01:37,169
radio is ready for capitalism.
Great,

1069
01:01:37,650 --> 01:01:42,300
Ira Glass. He's an old public
radio hack from it from forever.

1070
01:01:42,540 --> 01:01:46,710
And he would do that. That's
just a sell out. It's a big sell

1071
01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:49,470
out the the interest, you can't
expect their information to be

1072
01:01:49,470 --> 01:01:51,330
accurate if they're going to
have a bunch of advertisers,

1073
01:01:51,330 --> 01:01:52,140
this Thank you.

1074
01:01:52,170 --> 01:01:53,040
Thank you.

1075
01:01:55,290 --> 01:01:59,310
I'd love this shift. By the way,
I've been to making lemasters VR

1076
01:01:59,310 --> 01:02:04,290
mourn. My old buddy from MTV,
who is now the CEO of NPR is put

1077
01:02:04,290 --> 01:02:08,370
in a difficult position for him.
Because if these guys are taking

1078
01:02:08,370 --> 01:02:12,660
money off the table, then it's
nothing goes to the stations.

1079
01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:16,860
And by the way, a million bucks
or 2 million bucks, whatever you

1080
01:02:16,860 --> 01:02:19,290
have, and to be very honest
here, you think you're gonna

1081
01:02:19,290 --> 01:02:22,650
build a podcasting network, it
doesn't work, there's no reason

1082
01:02:22,650 --> 01:02:26,190
for networks anymore. There's
absolutely there's no value add,

1083
01:02:26,190 --> 01:02:29,160
you don't control the
distribution, you can only help

1084
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,350
by providing services.

1085
01:02:31,770 --> 01:02:35,670
You don't have a bunch of CBS
affiliate you do if you

1086
01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:39,900
do central ad buying by
definition the creators as they

1087
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:44,070
call them, now, we're not
podcast creator, they they don't

1088
01:02:44,070 --> 01:02:46,470
get the full amount because in
fact they get a very small

1089
01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:48,900
amount of it because the network
needs to you know, they employ

1090
01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:52,350
people I've done this, but if we
spent $50 million and couldn't

1091
01:02:52,350 --> 01:02:57,600
do it, it doesn't work anymore.
There's no value at zero value

1092
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:02,070
add this will fail. Now if you
pull each individual piece out

1093
01:03:02,070 --> 01:03:05,430
and these become produced some
listener supported and would

1094
01:03:05,430 --> 01:03:08,580
support it should not just be
financed but also really the way

1095
01:03:08,610 --> 01:03:12,870
way our show works. We have been
its collaboration where we miles

1096
01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:16,230
ahead of these Yahoo's by the
way, we've got artists, we've

1097
01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:20,310
got jingle producers, we've got
financial support, we've got

1098
01:03:20,310 --> 01:03:25,230
information we have a network of
experts, which we could sell to

1099
01:03:25,260 --> 01:03:28,680
any outlet and make our
producers rich by the way, this

1100
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,130
isn't this is a business that is
booming. But we don't choose to

1101
01:03:32,130 --> 01:03:35,910
do that because we don't want to
be compromised. Now. Will you

1102
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:38,640
still be able to be
multimillionaire doing a podcast

1103
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:43,200
No. No. Those days are over it's
over for most entertainment

1104
01:03:43,830 --> 01:03:46,980
we've talked about them many
puddles pity party

1105
01:03:47,340 --> 01:03:53,400
there's there's him of course.
So I encourage it please please

1106
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,930
go commercial they go to
capitalism please because it's

1107
01:03:57,930 --> 01:03:59,760
going to destroy public radio

1108
01:04:02,220 --> 01:04:05,100
Yeah, well you know what the
problem of public radio to make

1109
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:10,380
as I watched it as a god from
went from cash from when it went

1110
01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:16,800
from actual listener support to
underwriting to now these what

1111
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,980
are essentially advertisements
and then the thought that their

1112
01:04:19,980 --> 01:04:21,780
advertisements that
consideration that their

1113
01:04:21,780 --> 01:04:26,520
advertisement says we have from
that clip over the head of NPR

1114
01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:30,840
interchanges the word
advertising for underwriting

1115
01:04:30,870 --> 01:04:31,110
Yeah,

1116
01:04:31,140 --> 01:04:32,100
where's that clip?

1117
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,820
Whatever you want to call it?
Yeah, where's is the reference

1118
01:04:35,820 --> 01:04:36,420
Yeah,

1119
01:04:36,450 --> 01:04:39,240
bad guys. It's been so long
since we've played that I don't

1120
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:40,110
even know where it is.

1121
01:04:40,410 --> 01:04:43,740
Now good. Dig it up. So in
played some time, yeah. That's

1122
01:04:43,740 --> 01:04:45,120
thank a few people that are

1123
01:04:45,810 --> 01:04:49,950
you can't do that. You can't do
that. Why? Because I first have

1124
01:04:49,950 --> 01:04:52,950
to thank you for your courage.
Oh, and say in the morning, she

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01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:56,190
always forget to get thing in
the morning to you, John C or

1126
01:04:56,190 --> 01:04:59,370
the C stands for capitalism
Dvorak.

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01:05:00,359 --> 01:05:02,759
In the morning you Adam curry
into Moreno shifts as he boots

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01:05:02,759 --> 01:05:04,499
on the ground feeding the air
subs in the water and all the

1129
01:05:04,499 --> 01:05:06,629
Dames and nights out there

1130
01:05:06,659 --> 01:05:09,539
in the morning to all of our
native advertisers in the chat

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01:05:09,539 --> 01:05:13,529
room. That would be they do
provide native advertising for

1132
01:05:13,529 --> 01:05:16,919
the program our human resources
no agenda stream God calm in the

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01:05:16,919 --> 01:05:21,539
morning to star cast Squatch new
artists on the scene who

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01:05:21,539 --> 01:05:24,599
provided the artwork for Episode
Seven to zero.

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01:05:24,810 --> 01:05:27,270
And Martin JJ provided the
artwork for the newsletter.

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01:05:27,299 --> 01:05:30,779
Great work I liked this star
cast Squatch

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01:05:31,860 --> 01:05:32,880
sketch

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01:05:32,940 --> 01:05:37,470
that's a pro Yeah, in fact, we
looked at his website which is

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01:05:37,470 --> 01:05:40,740
linked from the from the show
notes and seven to zero and he

1140
01:05:40,740 --> 01:05:42,690
is a pro that's what he does for
a living. So we really

1141
01:05:42,690 --> 01:05:45,630
appreciate that no agenda art
generator.com is where you can

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01:05:45,630 --> 01:05:48,240
submit where you can look at all
of the art where you can

1143
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,480
download it printed to whatever
you want to just enjoy a lot of

1144
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,650
it's it's just funny. Funny to
look at very, very enjoyable.

1145
01:05:58,140 --> 01:06:02,970
I agree. I agree. So let's thank
a few people who are the

1146
01:06:02,970 --> 01:06:05,370
producers and executive
producers and Associate

1147
01:06:05,370 --> 01:06:08,610
Executive producers for this
shows in this case we have three

1148
01:06:08,700 --> 01:06:12,720
executive producers and nobody
else was it wasn't the best of

1149
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,800
weeks but it was it was you can
get by Seth Griffin of course

1150
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:21,480
gave us 550 bucks from South
Elgin, Elgin, Illinois Dear John

1151
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,880
and Adam, I received John's
letter about the elites wanting

1152
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:29,100
us to eat bugs. And I'm donating
$550 out of spite for their

1153
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:30,600
outrageous contempt.

1154
01:06:42,930 --> 01:06:46,560
Please enjoy a tomahawk steak on
me. Thank you and feel free to

1155
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,340
pass on the caterpillar mashed
potatoes. I also believe that

1156
01:06:50,370 --> 01:06:52,410
this brings my total
contribution to the level of

1157
01:06:52,410 --> 01:06:54,450
knighthood. Thank you so much
for all the hard work he did.

1158
01:06:54,990 --> 01:06:56,130
Sincerely Seth

1159
01:06:56,700 --> 01:06:59,760
it doesn't even show it today.
We also shall be knighting John

1160
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,000
Fletcher right where he's
Fletcher fest initiative which

1161
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,510
was very successful everyone no
downloading the Fletcher festa.

1162
01:07:07,770 --> 01:07:11,010
Show shouts from seven to zero
Show Notes seven to zero.no

1163
01:07:11,010 --> 01:07:14,010
agenda notes.com. And thank you
Seth and looking forward to

1164
01:07:14,370 --> 01:07:15,450
seeing you at the roundtable

1165
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,230
also coming in with Florida
dollars from the DC area search

1166
01:07:19,230 --> 01:07:22,680
Chase. ITM to you and the
fantastic producers of the no

1167
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,440
agenda show I'm a longtime
listeners pulled time and funds

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01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,400
together with friends to produce
a financial mobile app is geared

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01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,010
toward people with stock
portfolios. The app allows you

1170
01:07:32,010 --> 01:07:35,430
to easily apply and track a
trailing stop for each stock.

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01:07:36,510 --> 01:07:37,620
John can explain this so you

1172
01:07:37,620 --> 01:07:40,740
think there's something for you
and Horowitz unplugged?

1173
01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:44,670
Well, you look at it. Sure,
definitely. It uses green yellow

1174
01:07:44,670 --> 01:07:47,580
red flags to showcase your stock
positions during a dynamic

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01:07:47,580 --> 01:07:50,730
percentage based trailing stop
who launched the app for Android

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01:07:50,730 --> 01:07:53,700
and preparing an iPhone version.
Now you did it backwards. I

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01:07:53,700 --> 01:07:56,700
really appreciate those
producers listening with stock

1178
01:07:56,700 --> 01:07:59,790
portfolios and IRAs to give it a
try. You can find it on Google

1179
01:07:59,790 --> 01:08:08,310
Play Store by typing trailing
stops app trailing stops app.com

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01:08:09,690 --> 01:08:12,480
I really appreciate this quick
shout out to get some attention

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01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,120
and traction or users who may be
interested. Thanks again for the

1182
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,190
blood sweat and laughs you put
into every show

1183
01:08:17,190 --> 01:08:19,020
and give him a little bit of app
karma.

1184
01:08:20,970 --> 01:08:23,160
You've got karma I know how hard

1185
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:28,710
that is. And finally for three
and a four to $5.67 345671 of my

1186
01:08:28,710 --> 01:08:34,050
favorite donations. James span
in Birmingham, Alabama. I host a

1187
01:08:34,050 --> 01:08:37,590
podcast called weather brains
and happened to be an AMS

1188
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:41,790
certified meteorologist. Okay.
You guys are spot on when it

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01:08:41,790 --> 01:08:43,380
comes to climate change.

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01:08:45,870 --> 01:08:47,490
I got a clip for that today. I

1191
01:08:47,849 --> 01:08:51,449
also want to call out the news
anchor that works for with me

1192
01:08:51,449 --> 01:08:58,409
Dave Baird as a douchebag loves
the show. Nice. It's a lot of

1193
01:08:58,409 --> 01:09:04,109
meteorologists that know is
very, it's not uncommon. Let's

1194
01:09:04,109 --> 01:09:07,439
put it that way. And that's it.
That's all we got. I want to

1195
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,049
remind you a show coming up on
Sunday. It's the shortlist

1196
01:09:10,049 --> 01:09:10,289
goodness

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01:09:10,290 --> 01:09:12,810
knows no associate execs. No

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01:09:14,580 --> 01:09:21,870
divorce.org/and A get in get in
what you can. Yeah, help us out.

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01:09:21,900 --> 01:09:24,720
Yeah, please. Contribute to the
cause I'm

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01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,080
struggling here. We're
struggling. This is the third

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01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:33,300
show that we're down. Yeah. And
people are wondering if you're

1202
01:09:33,300 --> 01:09:39,030
okay. Why? Well, you know,
what's wrong with John? Why?

1203
01:09:39,390 --> 01:09:41,460
They wonder if you have onset of
dementia. I don't know. I'm just

1204
01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:43,830
telling you what I get. I'm
acting demented. I don't think

1205
01:09:43,830 --> 01:09:47,550
so. Oh, no. Different than
normal, but maybe we're just a

1206
01:09:47,550 --> 01:09:54,510
little demure. I don't
know.org/n A these you can

1207
01:09:54,510 --> 01:09:57,810
always go out there and help us
by propagating the one and only

1208
01:09:57,810 --> 01:09:58,380
formula.

1209
01:09:58,650 --> 01:10:03,330
Our formula is this Should we go
out for yet people in the mouth?

1210
01:10:10,380 --> 01:10:22,740
Hey, citizens all right, since
it came up, since we have since

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01:10:22,740 --> 01:10:28,440
we have just discussed some of
the climatology of weather ology

1212
01:10:28,440 --> 01:10:32,880
and agenda 21, or all the G, we
have two things to listen to.

1213
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,240
One is this report from CNN.
We've been talking about this

1214
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:40,050
for many, many years, about the
lack of hurricanes, which are

1215
01:10:40,050 --> 01:10:42,750
all predicted as part of
initially global warming.

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01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,010
Non stop level five hurricanes.
Now,

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01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,340
these were all predicted, so
they don't fit in with the

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01:10:50,340 --> 01:10:54,870
predictive models. What I liked
very much about this report, and

1219
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:58,290
this is one of those things that
put on the website where it's

1220
01:10:58,290 --> 01:11:02,520
not just a news anchor, talking
and giving you the story, but

1221
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:06,360
they do it from side angles. And
this case, she is looking ahead,

1222
01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:09,480
it's kind of like an in studio
kind of thing. It's very

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01:11:09,480 --> 01:11:16,290
produced. You will be surprised
by what actually has thwarted or

1224
01:11:16,380 --> 01:11:21,000
not enabled the hurricanes as
expected, according to the

1225
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:21,600
models,

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01:11:21,630 --> 01:11:25,590
maybe hard to believe we have
not had a major hurricane. We're

1227
01:11:25,590 --> 01:11:29,190
talking about a category three
or higher strike the US in the

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01:11:29,190 --> 01:11:33,930
past nine years. That's the
longest hurricane drought ever,

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01:11:34,020 --> 01:11:38,970
ever. The second longest drought
we had was back in 1861 to 68.

1230
01:11:39,060 --> 01:11:43,020
That drought lasted eight years,
the American Geophysical Union

1231
01:11:43,020 --> 01:11:47,010
did a study try to find out what
causes these hurricane droughts

1232
01:11:47,010 --> 01:11:51,090
and how often we may have them a
found that it's likely to happen

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01:11:51,090 --> 01:11:56,310
only once every 177 years. But
what's more impressive is that

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01:11:56,490 --> 01:11:59,670
they couldn't find any link to
scientific evidence of why this

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01:11:59,670 --> 01:12:04,020
happens. It basically boils down
to luck. So the last major

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01:12:04,020 --> 01:12:07,410
hurricane to strike the US was
Hurricane Wilma. That was back

1237
01:12:07,410 --> 01:12:11,400
in 2005. That doesn't mean we
haven't had destructive storms

1238
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:15,060
since Hurricane Sandy. We've
also had Ike that impacted the

1239
01:12:15,060 --> 01:12:15,810
Gulf Coast.

1240
01:12:16,020 --> 01:12:19,710
So by the way, it was not
Hurricane Sandy if that has to

1241
01:12:19,710 --> 01:12:23,550
stop it was Superstorm Sandy was
not a hurricane

1242
01:12:23,610 --> 01:12:26,970
had some major damage from
storms since 2005. But we

1243
01:12:26,970 --> 01:12:29,610
haven't had any with the
category three or higher

1244
01:12:29,610 --> 01:12:33,300
intensity. Always remember that
the hurricane drought can end at

1245
01:12:33,330 --> 01:12:36,060
any time. Be afraid it's always
important to be prepared.

1246
01:12:36,420 --> 01:12:39,900
Be prepared. Be afraid. All
right. I don't like the laughing

1247
01:12:39,900 --> 01:12:44,700
kid. It's creepy. It's creepy.
It's just creepy. I don't want

1248
01:12:44,700 --> 01:12:46,350
to hear the laughing kid is
creepy. Okay, can

1249
01:12:46,350 --> 01:12:47,520
I have a do some talking?

1250
01:12:50,730 --> 01:12:53,250
What is this a doll that you're
pulling the string on?

1251
01:12:53,549 --> 01:12:57,479
No, it's actually electric bear
called Little Bear. Alright,

1252
01:12:57,839 --> 01:12:58,649
that talks.

1253
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,410
Yeah, you know, I'm going to
start agreeing with people who

1254
01:13:01,410 --> 01:13:05,490
are wondering if you have the
onset of dementia is a very good

1255
01:13:05,490 --> 01:13:10,740
day. Now we go to the Hill. That
would be where the Congress

1256
01:13:10,740 --> 01:13:13,830
convenes in the United States of
Gitmo nation, atmospheric

1257
01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:17,880
scientists John Christie was and
of course, this is set up by

1258
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,090
Gohmert. And this will not be
shown anywhere you will not hear

1259
01:13:21,090 --> 01:13:24,360
of this even though it happened.
The he pulled out the climate

1260
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:29,550
models or I think 102 120
climate models that are computer

1261
01:13:29,850 --> 01:13:36,540
models developed by the IPCC,
which are the basis for the the

1262
01:13:36,540 --> 01:13:42,270
fear of everybody dying because
of manmade global warming, thus,

1263
01:13:42,270 --> 01:13:47,010
climate change. Very, very
interesting presentation only on

1264
01:13:47,010 --> 01:13:47,940
your no agenda show.

1265
01:13:47,970 --> 01:13:50,520
I am one of the few people that
actually builds these climate

1266
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,970
datasets from scratch so that we
can see what the real climate is

1267
01:13:53,970 --> 01:13:57,840
doing. Well, I understand you
may have a slide that compares

1268
01:13:57,870 --> 01:14:01,320
love hobbies. So setup. I
understand you have a slow me to

1269
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:05,010
slide now you're not doing a
really various climate models

1270
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:10,740
is being a lot of targeted
explainers there. So this is a

1271
01:14:10,740 --> 01:14:15,120
target. That is the trend in the
atmospheric temperature that has

1272
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:20,340
happened since 1979. That's the
target that you want to hit with

1273
01:14:20,340 --> 01:14:25,320
your climate model. So it's
likely give someone 102 bullets

1274
01:14:25,350 --> 01:14:29,190
to shoot at that target. Okay,
go to the next one. And that's

1275
01:14:29,190 --> 01:14:33,450
what they got. that not a single
one of these climate model

1276
01:14:33,450 --> 01:14:37,530
projections was able to hit the
target. That is the basis though

1277
01:14:37,530 --> 01:14:41,160
on the policies being made is on
those climate models, not on the

1278
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:47,100
evidence before us. Do you have
another slide? Hurry up with the

1279
01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:50,610
presentation trying to make a
point where the other shows a

1280
01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:54,420
difference in what's projected
and what's real, or what's the

1281
01:14:54,420 --> 01:14:59,130
one you were showing while ago?
Yes, that I think everyone here

1282
01:14:59,130 --> 01:15:02,730
in this room can Understand that
slide, I think they would

1283
01:15:02,730 --> 01:15:06,120
understand something is wrong
with the scientific theory we

1284
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,870
have about how greenhouse gases
affect the climate. I don't no

1285
01:15:09,870 --> 01:15:12,750
one has said this slide is
wrong. It's been event Don't

1286
01:15:12,750 --> 01:15:17,580
you see here is the climate, the
model of the target from these

1287
01:15:17,580 --> 01:15:20,910
models, just a big hockey stick,
which we've all seen. And then

1288
01:15:20,910 --> 01:15:23,550
you see all the models that he's
pulled together, and they're

1289
01:15:23,550 --> 01:15:25,830
very far from what has been
predictable for

1290
01:15:25,830 --> 01:15:29,490
over two years, or over a year,
it took me a long time to build

1291
01:15:29,490 --> 01:15:34,230
it, because that's downloading
102 models and so on. But that

1292
01:15:34,530 --> 01:15:38,820
is the way I understand it. The
extreme claims about climate

1293
01:15:38,820 --> 01:15:42,270
change are based upon what those
models what that red line is

1294
01:15:42,270 --> 01:15:45,210
showing, and not on what the
real world is actually doing.

1295
01:15:45,270 --> 01:15:48,030
I'm shocked shocked to find that
climate data is being

1296
01:15:48,030 --> 01:15:49,290
manipulated around yeah,

1297
01:15:49,470 --> 01:15:52,230
there you go. You will not by
the way, it's worth looking at

1298
01:15:52,230 --> 01:15:55,860
that clip. C span clip, you can
find it in the show notes, so

1299
01:15:55,860 --> 01:15:59,430
you can see the actual model.
You can pass that around to

1300
01:15:59,430 --> 01:16:03,630
people they won't believe you
anyway. That's a futile, futile,

1301
01:16:04,110 --> 01:16:07,050
futile it's the funny part about
it. It's uh, you just keep

1302
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,910
pounding you yell Gorby. And of
course, you keep pounding and

1303
01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:15,690
pounding and Al Gore did it for
the, to hopefully clean up on

1304
01:16:15,690 --> 01:16:20,040
the cap and trade scam. So you
just keep pounding and pounding

1305
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:25,170
and you get a group of people.
Like the Liberal Democrat types,

1306
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:29,370
the Bill Maher's who's so all in
on this, who have no scientific

1307
01:16:29,490 --> 01:16:33,270
training whatsoever? None zero.
I don't even think he has a

1308
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:37,140
college degree. And you but you
find these guys and you just end

1309
01:16:37,140 --> 01:16:42,120
and you start pushing more of
this at them. And then they pass

1310
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,450
it on to others who clap, and it
gets worse and worse. And you

1311
01:16:45,450 --> 01:16:51,540
end up with just just a bunch of
robots that are jumping up and

1312
01:16:51,540 --> 01:16:54,840
down dough. Yeah, we're all
gonna die. And how can anyone

1313
01:16:54,840 --> 01:17:01,680
deny this hands clapping? Thumbs
up 97% of all this, these memes

1314
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,510
just come blurting out of these
people.

1315
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,490
I think the tipping point
though, is what we talked about

1316
01:17:05,490 --> 01:17:11,760
on Sunday show where we're now
seeing a kind of a safe zone

1317
01:17:11,940 --> 01:17:15,810
that because of climate change,
denial and manmade global

1318
01:17:15,810 --> 01:17:20,250
warming denial, a lot of
scientists are backpedaling. on

1319
01:17:20,250 --> 01:17:24,570
their, on their facts and their
evidence bobike. You know, we

1320
01:17:24,570 --> 01:17:26,190
talked about the three different
reasons but all you know,

1321
01:17:26,220 --> 01:17:29,610
pressure and they don't know
that they're feeling minorities

1322
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:34,590
get the real reason. It's $340
million that was pulled by the

1323
01:17:34,590 --> 01:17:39,120
Republicans from climate
research. Oh, our money's gone

1324
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,460
away. Would you bless clear our
names?

1325
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:49,170
Ah, interesting. That, by the
way, is also what I'm gonna do a

1326
01:17:49,170 --> 01:17:52,230
little tech news without the
jingle. This merger or

1327
01:17:52,230 --> 01:17:56,580
acquisition of America Online by
Verizon? Yeah, I think

1328
01:17:56,580 --> 01:18:00,240
everyone's analysis is wrong.
Right. What are they saying?

1329
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,880
It's a bit buying the ad
network, you know, oh, we're

1330
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:08,130
putting content with the with
the pipes now. Now. I believe

1331
01:18:08,580 --> 01:18:13,920
this is purely for the diet?
Well, not purely, but I believe

1332
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:18,030
it's for the dial up customers.
And the 1.9 billion oh, wait a

1333
01:18:18,030 --> 01:18:22,440
minute. I think it's one point
as at number nine, this how many

1334
01:18:22,440 --> 01:18:27,330
billion dollars in subsidy here
$9 billion in broadband subsidy

1335
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:35,430
was made available by the FCC
late last year. Now $4.4

1336
01:18:35,430 --> 01:18:38,610
billion, not a lot of money to
it seems like a lot but not a

1337
01:18:38,610 --> 01:18:41,160
lot of money to Verizon,
certainly if you can say hey, we

1338
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,640
have how many was it to 2
million customers I have or two,

1339
01:18:44,670 --> 01:18:47,160
two and a half million dial up
customers? Hey, we got these

1340
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,710
customers, we would mind have a
little bit of broadband subsidy.

1341
01:18:49,710 --> 01:18:53,580
And these guys, Verizon is known
for taking this subsidy to build

1342
01:18:53,580 --> 01:18:56,220
out their broadband network. I
think it's totally all about the

1343
01:18:56,220 --> 01:18:56,790
dialogue.

1344
01:18:58,380 --> 01:19:02,970
Oh, that's an interesting
thesis. Let me see what the and

1345
01:19:02,970 --> 01:19:05,460
how you can prove the thesis.
But it makes sense. Let's

1346
01:19:05,490 --> 01:19:11,430
let's see what happens when they
get to the heritage. US Federal

1347
01:19:11,430 --> 01:19:15,060
Communications Commission voted
to shift 9 billion over five

1348
01:19:15,060 --> 01:19:18,180
years from traditional telephone
subsidies to broadband subsidies

1349
01:19:18,180 --> 01:19:20,910
in an effort to bring high speed
internet services to 5 million

1350
01:19:20,910 --> 01:19:24,810
US residents who don't have
access. Boom, expand the

1351
01:19:24,810 --> 01:19:29,400
network. That's That's what I
mean, it's the only profitable

1352
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:34,290
piece I guess. I don't know how
HuffPo is doing TechCrunch who

1353
01:19:34,290 --> 01:19:38,640
gives a crap which will probably
be spun out anyway, I just I

1354
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,340
went looking for a reason that
pretty soon I said, Well, this

1355
01:19:41,340 --> 01:19:46,050
makes total sense. Take the Take
Take a piece at 9 billion over

1356
01:19:46,050 --> 01:19:48,870
five years, get your money back,
expand your network and then

1357
01:19:48,870 --> 01:19:50,490
sell people all kinds of stuff.

1358
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,800
And you could probably you're
right you can probably dump

1359
01:19:54,090 --> 01:19:57,600
TechCrunch and the Huff Post for
what there was paid for them to

1360
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,330
begin with was quite a bit but
you can probably do them for a

1361
01:20:00,330 --> 01:20:04,080
couple mil or bill me a couple
of billion dollars, the way

1362
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,290
things are going until the
economy collapses, somebody will

1363
01:20:07,290 --> 01:20:12,510
buy him. Yeah. Now you may have
been on to something I like it.

1364
01:20:13,620 --> 01:20:16,530
I can't see why it wouldn't be
that because there has to be

1365
01:20:16,530 --> 01:20:21,660
better explanation for this.
Everybody in the tech writing

1366
01:20:21,660 --> 01:20:24,900
community I kind of looked at as
oh, these guys are idiots, why

1367
01:20:24,900 --> 01:20:29,700
are they doing this? Well, I
already had says dumb. They

1368
01:20:29,700 --> 01:20:32,850
never look beyond that quick
kind of analysis.

1369
01:20:33,090 --> 01:20:36,360
To me. It's just numbers being
like, what do you acquire

1370
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,840
something, particularly as a
public company, there's a lot of

1371
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:44,190
reasons to acquire something
that has certain type of asset

1372
01:20:44,220 --> 01:20:47,820
or if they're profitable,
because it's all a creative to

1373
01:20:47,820 --> 01:20:51,600
your, to your numbers I call
random public companies I know

1374
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,570
about some of this certainly
about acquisitions at 4.4

1375
01:20:54,570 --> 01:20:59,190
billion is really a joke. It's
just It's nothing. But if you

1376
01:20:59,190 --> 01:21:03,210
take into account that they do
probably two to $300 million a

1377
01:21:03,210 --> 01:21:07,770
year just on the dial up. You
know, there's a value to that

1378
01:21:07,770 --> 01:21:10,440
you assign a value to those to
those customers. But again, it's

1379
01:21:10,440 --> 01:21:13,500
it's like it'll pay for itself.
We need people to get that

1380
01:21:13,500 --> 01:21:17,820
funding for, you know, really
the Verizon is basing their

1381
01:21:17,820 --> 01:21:20,850
business, the future of their
business on content and an ad

1382
01:21:20,850 --> 01:21:23,730
network now, then you then
you're idiots.

1383
01:21:25,620 --> 01:21:27,120
How many times has that been
done?

1384
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,980
It makes it doesn't make any
sense. That's what that that's

1385
01:21:31,980 --> 01:21:34,440
what the tech press was right
about? This doesn't make any

1386
01:21:34,440 --> 01:21:35,130
sense. So help me

1387
01:21:35,130 --> 01:21:37,500
do the math for a second. If you
have 20 million dial up

1388
01:21:37,500 --> 01:21:41,490
customers paying $20 and 20
million to 2,000,002 and a half

1389
01:21:41,490 --> 01:21:44,880
million, we'll just take two 2
billion dial up customers paying

1390
01:21:44,910 --> 01:21:49,440
about $20 a month. Right? How
much is that a year?

1391
01:21:51,060 --> 01:21:56,820
Okay, that's $20 a month would
be $240 per customer. 240 times

1392
01:21:56,820 --> 01:21:59,490
two would be 480 million.

1393
01:21:59,910 --> 01:22:04,470
Right? What would you pay? What
multiple would you pay on each

1394
01:22:04,470 --> 01:22:05,190
subscriber?

1395
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,850
Well, if you play a multiple of
10x, that's your 4 billion right

1396
01:22:08,850 --> 01:22:09,240
there. Thank

1397
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,990
you. That's it?

1398
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,060
Well, it said, especially if you
get the money from the

1399
01:22:18,060 --> 01:22:23,640
government to convert these,
these 2 million to 2 million

1400
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:27,810
broadband users, which has to be
another that's got to be worth

1401
01:22:27,900 --> 01:22:32,640
probably $100. A head to do
maybe with 40 billion if you

1402
01:22:32,700 --> 01:22:36,300
when you think we look at it
that way. Yeah. I was just

1403
01:22:36,330 --> 01:22:40,230
surprised to see this immediate
analysis of oh, it's all about

1404
01:22:40,230 --> 01:22:45,990
mobile advertising. Mobile
Advertising. I'm almost ready to

1405
01:22:45,990 --> 01:22:51,600
break my iPhone to people. Why
do these websites, no Guardian,

1406
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:56,280
and they add these buttons on
about an inch of the bottom of

1407
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,520
your screen with so you can
share to Facebook and Twitter

1408
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:03,450
and email. I don't need this
from you. The screen is already

1409
01:23:03,450 --> 01:23:06,480
small. You're taking up this
real estate thing. If now we

1410
01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:10,620
have the slide over JavaScript,
the ads popping up on mobile,

1411
01:23:10,740 --> 01:23:11,820
it's useless.

1412
01:23:13,650 --> 01:23:14,640
It's useless.

1413
01:23:15,390 --> 01:23:17,370
I have not seen a slide over

1414
01:23:17,490 --> 01:23:21,180
Java I saw when just yesterday
just yesterday flash whatever

1415
01:23:21,180 --> 01:23:24,030
they're using to move probably
credibly JavaScript

1416
01:23:24,059 --> 01:23:27,959
credibly annoying. I bet you
won't hear that optional

1417
01:23:27,989 --> 01:23:30,599
analysis. I don't think anyway,
just seeing if these guys are

1418
01:23:30,599 --> 01:23:33,659
known for taking the money and
taking the money. They're known

1419
01:23:33,659 --> 01:23:37,829
for doing it. And not in a
pretty way actually.

1420
01:23:38,070 --> 01:23:43,230
Yeah. All right. Very good.
We'll close out the segment

1421
01:23:43,230 --> 01:23:48,780
trying for lunch, my phone now.
You only got phones, a landline

1422
01:23:48,780 --> 01:23:50,160
is made out of Bakelite. Here
you

1423
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,370
go. And then came the news. And
then I wanted to clip and so I

1424
01:23:53,370 --> 01:23:57,390
went to the best source I could
find an old favorite of this

1425
01:23:57,390 --> 01:24:00,030
show who went away and we no
longer play clip from Keith

1426
01:24:00,030 --> 01:24:03,690
Olbermann. On something that we
as irked us for a long time.

1427
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,660
We begin with an NFL scandal
that in some respects is more

1428
01:24:06,660 --> 01:24:09,570
cynical, more disturbing and
certainly more influential than

1429
01:24:09,570 --> 01:24:13,110
deflate gate or Ray Rice or the
tragedy of player brain trauma,

1430
01:24:13,410 --> 01:24:16,830
the salutes to the troops the
flag waving patriotic tributes

1431
01:24:16,980 --> 01:24:20,430
by NFL teams at their games to
active US military service

1432
01:24:20,430 --> 01:24:23,640
personnel. Government Records
now reveal many of them,

1433
01:24:23,820 --> 01:24:28,140
probably most of them are bought
and paid for by the US military

1434
01:24:28,170 --> 01:24:30,840
by the Defense Department most
by the National Guard. They are

1435
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,600
not organic, spontaneous
recognitions of personal

1436
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,870
sacrifice and valor. They are
not a high profile way of saying

1437
01:24:36,900 --> 01:24:39,810
thank you. They are not the
responses of one sport to the

1438
01:24:39,810 --> 01:24:44,700
public mood. They are recruiting
stunts paid for with taxpayer

1439
01:24:44,700 --> 01:24:49,980
dollars your dollars 5,400,000
of your taxpayer dollars just

1440
01:24:49,980 --> 01:24:54,420
since 2011 given just two NFL
teams who then waved the flag

1441
01:24:54,690 --> 01:24:58,050
for a price and even that
startling figure is just the tip

1442
01:24:58,050 --> 01:25:01,140
of the iceberg when it comes to
prepaid pay criticism in sports,

1443
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,800
it turns out there was nearly
$50 million of it last year

1444
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,010
alone, not 50 million for body
armor for the troops, not for

1445
01:25:08,010 --> 01:25:09,900
treating the wounded not
forgiving a veteran the only

1446
01:25:09,900 --> 01:25:14,130
thanks he truly wants a job and
a good life. But for prepackaged

1447
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:19,680
pro military stunts at sporting
events, using soldiers as props,

1448
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,440
we don't even count the cost of
the flyovers.

1449
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:28,230
By those things are extremely
expensive. This explains, you

1450
01:25:28,230 --> 01:25:30,120
know, I don't know why you've

1451
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,130
been the guy that been that has
been mad about this, and I

1452
01:25:32,130 --> 01:25:33,720
totally mad about it, but I
never

1453
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,630
thought I had and that will give
Obermann credit for whoever dug

1454
01:25:36,630 --> 01:25:38,790
this up and sent him the
information. I'm sure he didn't

1455
01:25:38,790 --> 01:25:42,090
do it himself. Yeah, he like he
had a producer who did it.

1456
01:25:42,570 --> 01:25:44,970
Probably somebody in the
Pentagon who likes him and

1457
01:25:44,970 --> 01:25:48,720
because shows entertaining. But
I'm now irked that we didn't

1458
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:53,220
just dawn on us this whole thing
was bought and paid for. I was

1459
01:25:53,220 --> 01:25:55,800
under the impression that there
was just over overpaid. The

1460
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,250
patriotism thing was over over
the top, but apparently not. But

1461
01:25:59,250 --> 01:26:01,680
I bitched one of the things I
picked up I went to University

1462
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:05,430
of California football game and
there was not only the same old

1463
01:26:05,430 --> 01:26:10,050
marching soldiers and in the
salute in the press, you know,

1464
01:26:10,050 --> 01:26:13,440
the song and all the rest of it.
But then they came out and they

1465
01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:17,700
brought out the ROTC class and
gave him a word like metals or

1466
01:26:17,700 --> 01:26:21,000
something at a football game.

1467
01:26:21,030 --> 01:26:22,140
Oh, cool.

1468
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,310
Bad to assume that was paid for?
Yeah.

1469
01:26:27,660 --> 01:26:28,980
Well, fantastic.

1470
01:26:29,849 --> 01:26:32,609
Yeah, that's that me fooled.

1471
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:37,020
Gerbils is happy rolling around
in his grave Good work. Good.

1472
01:26:37,050 --> 01:26:44,220
It's so it's so Deutsche landish
of us. No, yeah, it really is

1473
01:26:44,250 --> 01:26:46,710
the N word they should they
should do a play Valkyries Ride

1474
01:26:46,710 --> 01:26:49,170
of the Valkyries before each
game and then bringing the

1475
01:26:49,170 --> 01:26:54,480
military and some armbands for
everybody then we're good

1476
01:26:56,100 --> 01:27:01,740
Yeah, well they're gonna get the
armbands are coming Man oh man

1477
01:27:04,380 --> 01:27:06,360
here's a couple of things you
want to let's play this I want

1478
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:10,950
to get this kind of amusing.
Here's the democracy now report

1479
01:27:11,100 --> 01:27:13,650
there apparently Kim Jong Il had
some yeah

1480
01:27:13,650 --> 01:27:18,450
this this is another this point
I think no agenda producers and

1481
01:27:18,450 --> 01:27:20,010
listeners alike are just rolling

1482
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,920
I got I got it. I got the whole
thing laid out. Here's the

1483
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,250
normal kind of normal even
though I think this is a bogus

1484
01:27:26,250 --> 01:27:28,500
report. I think all these
reports are bogus, but this one

1485
01:27:28,590 --> 01:27:33,600
is the d n m cases in execution
play this so this is this will

1486
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,030
be the staging of the next clip.

1487
01:27:36,060 --> 01:27:39,060
North Korea is reportedly
executed its defense minister

1488
01:27:39,060 --> 01:27:42,930
the South Korean intelligence
service says Yong Yong Chol was

1489
01:27:42,930 --> 01:27:46,020
killed after dozing off at a
military event which the regime

1490
01:27:46,020 --> 01:27:50,160
saw as an act of disrespect to
leader Kim Jong Hoon, Ken is

1491
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,800
said to avoid the executions for
more than a dozen senior

1492
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:55,410
officials this year for
challenging his authority.

1493
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,800
Now what I heard is that they
they shot him in public with it

1494
01:27:58,800 --> 01:27:59,940
with a 50 Cal

1495
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,210
Well, that's where we're moving.
So we're gonna take this out of

1496
01:28:03,210 --> 01:28:09,150
democracies now simple report to
the outrageous Gretchen Carlson.

1497
01:28:09,480 --> 01:28:14,520
And Monica, whatever her name is
the Blondie that used to work

1498
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:20,310
for Nixon. They have an
analysis, which not only goes

1499
01:28:20,310 --> 01:28:23,700
beyond first, they have the
bogus part of the story, which

1500
01:28:23,700 --> 01:28:27,570
is what you just said. And then
they decide they get time left

1501
01:28:27,570 --> 01:28:28,680
is the block is like

1502
01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:31,680
it's the C Block but that didn't
have enough to fill

1503
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,130
it. Yes. So they did get to do a
little analysis, by the way. And

1504
01:28:35,130 --> 01:28:35,910
let me tell you what happens

1505
01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:39,270
on set. There's a floor
director, I'm standing next to

1506
01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:43,020
the camera and he's he's with
both hands. He is pretending

1507
01:28:43,020 --> 01:28:46,200
like he's stretching some
saltwater taffy. Or they may

1508
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:50,700
even be in the prompter to say
Stretch, stretch. Right?

1509
01:28:51,300 --> 01:28:54,360
Well, that talk amongst
yourselves. I mean, I think what

1510
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,420
it was they had the segment that
gave the bogus story, and then

1511
01:28:57,420 --> 01:29:01,350
they brought Monica Crowley on
and she is going to add color.

1512
01:29:01,620 --> 01:29:05,490
Mm hmm. And so she decides to go
off the deep end with her with

1513
01:29:05,490 --> 01:29:10,650
an analysis. And the analysis is
so crazy. And then Gretchen

1514
01:29:10,650 --> 01:29:14,790
who's I believe is an idiot. She
goes Oh, that's fantastic.

1515
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:18,150
That's all now I understand the
whole thing. Here we go anytime

1516
01:29:18,150 --> 01:29:18,180
a

1517
01:29:18,180 --> 01:29:22,110
new report from South Korea's
spy agency revealing North

1518
01:29:22,110 --> 01:29:25,950
Korean dictator Kim Jong Moon
has publicly executed his

1519
01:29:25,950 --> 01:29:29,940
defense minister with an anti
aircraft gun. Well, it's the man

1520
01:29:29,940 --> 01:29:33,210
that you see right here. The
alleged treason, sleeping on the

1521
01:29:33,210 --> 01:29:37,350
job talking back and complaining
about the young leader. Let's

1522
01:29:37,350 --> 01:29:40,590
bring in Monica Crowley online
opinion editor often times and a

1523
01:29:40,590 --> 01:29:44,010
Fox News contributor. So I guess
if you fall asleep in a meeting

1524
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:47,640
after serving your country for
decades and decades they offer

1525
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:51,570
well this is how communist
dictatorships behave, operate by

1526
01:29:51,570 --> 01:29:54,960
intimidation, fear and terror.
This is not the first time Kim

1527
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,110
Jong Hoon, or his father or his
grandfather has publicly

1528
01:29:58,110 --> 01:30:01,440
executed somebody who they
thought was being insubordinate

1529
01:30:01,470 --> 01:30:04,860
to the regime were talking back
or falling asleep allegedly in a

1530
01:30:04,860 --> 01:30:07,890
meeting, this is how tyrannies
behave. Not a surprise. All

1531
01:30:07,890 --> 01:30:08,100
right, I

1532
01:30:08,100 --> 01:30:11,730
want to show our viewers a
satellite image. This is of the

1533
01:30:11,730 --> 01:30:15,360
execution site in North Korea.
This comes from a human rights

1534
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:19,080
group. So apparently, Monica
they're able to capture to say

1535
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:21,720
that this is where the public
execution was when the anti

1536
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:23,670
aircraft shots came in.

1537
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,400
Yeah, now usually when you see
something like this from North

1538
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,280
Korea, and we have very little
intelligence and very little

1539
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,770
information about this regime,
it's called the hermit kingdom

1540
01:30:31,770 --> 01:30:34,980
for for a reason. It's the most
reclusive regime on the face of

1541
01:30:34,980 --> 01:30:38,100
the earth. But if these reports
are true, it indicates a couple

1542
01:30:38,100 --> 01:30:41,640
of things to me. First of all,
there could be some political

1543
01:30:41,670 --> 01:30:45,270
chaos, maybe upheaval within the
regime, and he is really trying

1544
01:30:45,270 --> 01:30:48,570
to consolidate power, send a
shot across the bow to anybody

1545
01:30:48,570 --> 01:30:51,720
who might be thinking about
challenging him for power. The

1546
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:55,080
other thing too, is that most of
the global news, Gretchen has

1547
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:58,860
been concentrated on the Iranian
nuclear talks, and on Russia,

1548
01:30:58,890 --> 01:31:01,110
and Vladimir Putin's
aggressiveness in Crimea and

1549
01:31:01,110 --> 01:31:05,040
Ukraine and elsewhere. Jealous
that he is not the center of

1550
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:08,700
global attention. Also, remember
about a week ago, he did a

1551
01:31:08,700 --> 01:31:12,990
missile test. And it got very
limited attention in the West.

1552
01:31:13,170 --> 01:31:16,740
And so now he's probably saying,
hey, look, I'm still here. And

1553
01:31:16,740 --> 01:31:20,040
one of the ways he tries to get
global attention is by executing

1554
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:21,000
a member of his cabinet.

1555
01:31:21,210 --> 01:31:23,850
Unbelievable. Monica Crowley,
you have so much fake news. But

1556
01:31:23,850 --> 01:31:25,350
thank you so much for that.
Allison makes

1557
01:31:25,350 --> 01:31:26,460
nothing but sense.

1558
01:31:26,670 --> 01:31:29,400
Unbelievable. She says.
Unbelievable. It's

1559
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:33,180
great. Yeah, fans unbelievable
would Fantastic. Thank you.

1560
01:31:33,630 --> 01:31:37,530
Two idiots. Jesus rambling I'm
making stuff up as they go

1561
01:31:37,530 --> 01:31:40,860
along, man like, oh, and when
none of it makes any sense, by

1562
01:31:40,860 --> 01:31:41,100
the

1563
01:31:41,190 --> 01:31:44,310
way, then they have a satellite
picture of the strike zone.

1564
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,680
They have a big satellite
fisheries showing, by the way it

1565
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:52,350
shows nothing. shows you some
life, blood or anything. No, it

1566
01:31:52,350 --> 01:31:56,670
was like it was so high up that
it was like it just it was like

1567
01:31:56,850 --> 01:31:59,760
it was bull crap. But just so
here it is. Here's what

1568
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:01,050
happened. You don't know that.

1569
01:32:01,290 --> 01:32:05,160
But like his, like his other the
what is the other guy if he fed

1570
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,710
to the dogs, which turned out to
be not true. And then

1571
01:32:08,130 --> 01:32:13,020
there was a guy was also killed
by flame thrower. Lovely. Yeah,

1572
01:32:13,020 --> 01:32:14,490
the dogs one was good, too.
Yeah.

1573
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:24,690
I wanted to move to the air, the
USA Freedom Act, which is

1574
01:32:24,690 --> 01:32:27,060
another one of these interesting
pieces of legislation we've been

1575
01:32:27,060 --> 01:32:30,330
following. And I want to remind
everybody that when it comes to

1576
01:32:30,330 --> 01:32:36,690
Section 215, of the National
Defense Authorization Act, that

1577
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:40,980
when did Snowden come out? When
Snowden came out with the with

1578
01:32:40,980 --> 01:32:44,160
his revelations? What year was
that? Two years, it's two years

1579
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,560
ago. So that would be 220 13.
Let's

1580
01:32:46,590 --> 01:32:49,440
take a look and get that get
this correct. And the only

1581
01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:49,740
reason

1582
01:32:49,740 --> 01:32:53,490
I say this is just so you know,
you're no agenda show on May

1583
01:32:53,490 --> 01:32:59,550
28 2011. Registered section two
fifteen.org. That's how long

1584
01:32:59,550 --> 01:33:03,990
we've been tracking this. Now, I
haven't kept the kept that up to

1585
01:33:03,990 --> 01:33:07,200
date, because we got kind of
tired of it after a while. But

1586
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:11,880
the bulk data collection from
section 215. We were talking

1587
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:13,320
about four years ago.

1588
01:33:13,620 --> 01:33:17,700
June. Yeah, that's probably
true. June 2013 is when they

1589
01:33:17,700 --> 01:33:18,930
nailed the Snowden.

1590
01:33:20,370 --> 01:33:25,230
So here we have me see where do
I put all of this?

1591
01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:30,420
By the way, if you search for Ed
Snowden, people also search for

1592
01:33:31,170 --> 01:33:36,930
Julian Assange, Glenn Greenwald,
Laura Poitras, Chelsea Manning

1593
01:33:36,930 --> 01:33:43,200
and no agenda show. Anna
Chapman. Oh, yeah. So it's funny

1594
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:46,950
that the some blonde or some
redhead bombshell years what was

1595
01:33:46,950 --> 01:33:49,200
it has it what its connection?
So I would

1596
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:54,330
like to explain then. Yeah. And
I think people appreciate this

1597
01:33:54,330 --> 01:34:01,380
deconstruction, of why this the
USA Freedom acts, which stops

1598
01:34:01,380 --> 01:34:08,010
the government collection of
mass collection bulk data is a

1599
01:34:08,010 --> 01:34:14,220
total setup for even more
spying. Everybody, but oh, this

1600
01:34:14,220 --> 01:34:18,150
is great. Yeah, we're gonna do
away with this. No. And I have

1601
01:34:18,150 --> 01:34:22,530
copies, of course of the of the
USA Freedom Act, which passed

1602
01:34:22,530 --> 01:34:25,680
the house, then I think the
Senate is voting on it tomorrow.

1603
01:34:26,700 --> 01:34:30,990
I don't know. Yeah, I think so.
So pass the House. And let me

1604
01:34:30,990 --> 01:34:37,320
explain why this is only going
to create more covert the

1605
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:42,270
trolling of of everybody's data.
So the act and we discussed this

1606
01:34:42,270 --> 01:34:45,300
when the first one that we saw
the first draft, the Act takes

1607
01:34:45,300 --> 01:34:48,720
the collection, no more
collection by the government.

1608
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:53,700
However, the telecommunications
companies will now save all of

1609
01:34:53,700 --> 01:34:58,110
this data, the end alright, and
it will save it for an X amount

1610
01:34:58,110 --> 01:35:01,650
of time then there will be
access will be granted. Now.

1611
01:35:01,710 --> 01:35:06,900
Here's the thing that that I
find that what I think is

1612
01:35:06,900 --> 01:35:10,620
basically they've set up a
backdoor to everything. We have

1613
01:35:10,620 --> 01:35:16,200
the cyber sharing agreement,
which indemnifies Any company

1614
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:21,420
from sharing their information
with the government. And we have

1615
01:35:21,420 --> 01:35:25,710
companies now what was that a
fire I who are have already been

1616
01:35:25,890 --> 01:35:29,100
pre approved, it can already
middlemen, middlemen can go both

1617
01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:31,260
all through them. So you can't
even you can't even blame these

1618
01:35:31,260 --> 01:35:35,310
companies. To me, it seems this
is perfect. This is beautiful.

1619
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,310
Do Oh, no, we can't do bulk
collection. But in the meantime,

1620
01:35:38,700 --> 01:35:43,590
these companies have complete
free range to hand over all that

1621
01:35:43,590 --> 01:35:49,260
data to the government. So it's
like covering up the obvious.

1622
01:35:52,260 --> 01:35:57,120
Yeah, we talked about in this
last show. It's classic. It's

1623
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,880
totally classic. Yeah, not only
that, but I think that was

1624
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:02,970
genius for the setup, this
little FireEye operation. And

1625
01:36:02,970 --> 01:36:03,270
they did

1626
01:36:03,270 --> 01:36:05,850
all this in the right sequence.
So we've already forgotten about

1627
01:36:05,850 --> 01:36:09,990
the cyber security Sharing Act.
We've already gotten past that.

1628
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,840
No one really complained about
the indemnification because why

1629
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:15,450
would we you know, same for
vaccine companies who gives a

1630
01:36:15,450 --> 01:36:18,510
shit. If you die, you can't sue
anybody. So what

1631
01:36:18,750 --> 01:36:21,780
the problem was even though it
indemnification means there's

1632
01:36:21,780 --> 01:36:26,850
that Oh, they've indemnified.
Okay. Does that mean they get

1633
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,340
does that mean? Is that free
lunch? Or what does that mean?

1634
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:34,290
So everyone's jumping up and
down saying, Oh, this is so

1635
01:36:34,290 --> 01:36:37,320
fantastic. No, it's not. It just
made it worse. Completely.

1636
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,050
untrackable. The I don't even
think there's reporting

1637
01:36:40,050 --> 01:36:42,840
requirements. But although
companies will now be out a

1638
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:46,590
Google is all in on this, by the
way, big blog post. Thank you so

1639
01:36:46,590 --> 01:36:50,400
much for passing this. We love
this idea. Yeah, I bet you do. I

1640
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:56,070
bet you do. And along with this
comes a report then it's about

1641
01:36:56,070 --> 01:37:00,270
cyber, but it's also about Iran.
And it comes from one of our one

1642
01:37:00,270 --> 01:37:07,380
of our favorite guys. This time
from Frederick Kagan, not Robert

1643
01:37:07,380 --> 01:37:13,740
Kagan. Of and he works for the
what does the AI that's

1644
01:37:15,420 --> 01:37:17,850
what the American American
Enterprise Institute

1645
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:23,400
Yes. And together with a guy
named Tommy Stephenson, who all

1646
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:28,110
we'll find out who he is in a
moment, created a report titled

1647
01:37:28,110 --> 01:37:32,280
The growing cyber threat from
Iran initial report of project

1648
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:33,900
pistachio harvest.

1649
01:37:39,390 --> 01:37:43,830
They're running out of ideas for
codenames pistachio harvest,

1650
01:37:44,940 --> 01:37:48,090
and collecting little nuts. They
have to open by hand.

1651
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:51,360
Wait until you hear who was
involved in this BBC interview.

1652
01:37:51,660 --> 01:37:54,810
A lot of BBC today, because
you're right. I was watching way

1653
01:37:54,810 --> 01:38:01,530
too much. MSNBC. BBC does a big
report on cyber warfare. I think

1654
01:38:01,530 --> 01:38:05,370
the title was, is cyber warfare
really that scary? They have a

1655
01:38:05,370 --> 01:38:08,010
couple of people on and I pulled
out the Kagan quotes from

1656
01:38:08,010 --> 01:38:09,450
Frederick Kagan himself. You
know, I

1657
01:38:09,450 --> 01:38:12,120
was one of the people who
advocated the surge in Iraq

1658
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:16,290
early on and good weren't
familiar with much nastier

1659
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,740
attacks and criticisms than I've
received on this report.

1660
01:38:20,129 --> 01:38:23,159
This is Frederick Kagan,
director of the critical threats

1661
01:38:23,159 --> 01:38:26,189
project at the American
Enterprise Institute, an

1662
01:38:26,189 --> 01:38:29,999
influential conservative think
tank in the US the think tank

1663
01:38:30,029 --> 01:38:32,069
that produced that divisive
report,

1664
01:38:32,429 --> 01:38:37,169
our report looked at Iranian
activities in cyberspace. And

1665
01:38:37,199 --> 01:38:41,939
what we saw is that the Iranians
are developing a significant

1666
01:38:42,119 --> 01:38:45,689
stockpile, basically, of cyber
infrastructure that they can use

1667
01:38:45,719 --> 01:38:48,209
to attack Western infrastructure

1668
01:38:48,540 --> 01:38:52,140
to find out what the Iranians
were up to. They looked at data

1669
01:38:52,170 --> 01:38:54,300
gathered by North intelligent
network

1670
01:38:55,470 --> 01:38:59,490
during remember the Norse
intelligence network, John, I'm

1671
01:38:59,490 --> 01:39:03,810
afraid I don't the CTO is Tommy
Stephenson. Um, so he works with

1672
01:39:03,870 --> 01:39:08,010
this the Norse NRS II,
cybersecurity firm worked

1673
01:39:08,010 --> 01:39:13,050
directly with AI and Kagan on
this he's the guy from the IP

1674
01:39:13,050 --> 01:39:19,110
Viking IP Viking live that
fantastic map with all the big

1675
01:39:19,110 --> 01:39:22,230
all the cyber attacks occurring
in real time right that phony

1676
01:39:22,230 --> 01:39:27,690
baloney map Yes, these are the
guys it's map.ip viking.com and

1677
01:39:27,690 --> 01:39:30,840
it has all the attacks and where
they're coming from and pew pew

1678
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,000
pew pew pew pew in fact, I'm
looking right now with number

1679
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:36,930
one China number two US military
gov by the way, I don't see any

1680
01:39:36,930 --> 01:39:40,650
Iran in their in their mapping,
but apparently the number one

1681
01:39:40,650 --> 01:39:46,050
cyber threat to this otherwise
beautifully executed, very scary

1682
01:39:46,050 --> 01:39:49,830
looking map where all the
attacks are coming from other

1683
01:39:49,830 --> 01:39:51,900
countries to the US shooting

1684
01:39:51,900 --> 01:39:52,410
at each other.

1685
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:56,370
It's fantastic. So this is the
co founder just

1686
01:39:57,179 --> 01:39:58,619
pounding Seattle right

1687
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,570
security company, which has
several million sensors around

1688
01:40:03,570 --> 01:40:04,050
the world,

1689
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:07,770
these sensors, the million
sensors. These sensors

1690
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:11,310
are designed to look like
websites for banks, power plants

1691
01:40:11,310 --> 01:40:15,720
or universities, their honeypot
polio A would be hacker,

1692
01:40:15,990 --> 01:40:20,640
we discovered a number of rather
stealthy attempts by

1693
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,420
snipers. Rather stealthy.

1694
01:40:25,050 --> 01:40:27,600
What the hell does that mean?
Doesn't mean anything but

1695
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:34,080
some systems based in Iran to
identify vulnerabilities in

1696
01:40:34,110 --> 01:40:37,650
western systems that would have
allowed the Iranians to take

1697
01:40:37,650 --> 01:40:41,490
full control over those systems,
if they had been actual systems

1698
01:40:41,490 --> 01:40:43,170
and if the attacks had been
successful.

1699
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:47,250
This is where the controversy
begins promising. Our first

1700
01:40:47,250 --> 01:40:51,060
expert witness, Robert Lee says
that to call this kind of cyber

1701
01:40:51,060 --> 01:40:54,450
activity and attack is
misleading. I'll say BBC

1702
01:40:54,450 --> 01:40:58,140
had a very balanced piece within
an expert who said this is all

1703
01:40:58,140 --> 01:41:01,950
bullcrap. But we play that role.
We didn't need him for it.

1704
01:41:02,370 --> 01:41:05,670
Instead, he describes it as
scanning. Someone looking for

1705
01:41:05,670 --> 01:41:08,910
access to website CT scanning.
Yeah, well, some scanning has

1706
01:41:08,910 --> 01:41:13,470
malicious intent. It's not in
itself an attack, he says. It's

1707
01:41:13,470 --> 01:41:16,650
like a burglar scoping the
outside of your house looking

1708
01:41:16,650 --> 01:41:19,830
for a way in? He hasn't stolen
anything yet?

1709
01:41:20,070 --> 01:41:22,800
Well, the main body of the
criticism actually misrepresents

1710
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:26,070
our report. We don't anywhere
say that there were 1000s of

1711
01:41:26,070 --> 01:41:29,250
attacks on industrial control
systems, for example, we

1712
01:41:29,250 --> 01:41:32,970
identify 65 attacks on an
industrial control system,

1713
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:38,310
do you stand by the use of the
word attack to describe those 65

1714
01:41:38,310 --> 01:41:40,110
activities that you just
mentioned?

1715
01:41:40,620 --> 01:41:45,630
I absolutely do. We use the term
in accord with standard industry

1716
01:41:45,630 --> 01:41:49,290
definitions that include
collection of information and

1717
01:41:49,290 --> 01:41:52,740
not just damaging systems. And
that's part of the standard NSA

1718
01:41:52,770 --> 01:41:54,030
definition for attack.

1719
01:41:54,060 --> 01:41:57,540
I love that I'm collecting
information on port availability

1720
01:41:57,540 --> 01:42:02,850
is defined as a cyber attack. By
NSA.

1721
01:42:04,650 --> 01:42:08,790
I didn't know that. Can you go
to that map for a second? Yeah,

1722
01:42:08,790 --> 01:42:10,680
hold on. I want to ask you a
couple things.

1723
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:14,280
Okay. It's very heavy on
resources.

1724
01:42:16,140 --> 01:42:19,410
Okay, it's alright. See how that
can be. But it's, I guess it is.

1725
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:21,840
But just go there for a minute.
You got a hook.

1726
01:42:23,130 --> 01:42:27,210
Coming up now. mapped out IP
viking.com for some reason. Is

1727
01:42:27,210 --> 01:42:29,550
it coming out? Yeah. Yes. All
right.

1728
01:42:29,580 --> 01:42:32,010
Got it. Okay. At the very
bottom, there's some in the

1729
01:42:32,010 --> 01:42:35,340
middle of the ocean of near the
Antarctica, there's a spot

1730
01:42:35,340 --> 01:42:40,830
that's just got tons of
activity. What is that? Ship?

1731
01:42:41,460 --> 01:42:43,830
I see what you're talking about.
It has a little like an

1732
01:42:43,860 --> 01:42:48,420
octagonal. Yeah. icon. I don't
know. Yeah. Is it clickable?

1733
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:53,430
Oh, good question. Never thought
of that. Expect it to be

1734
01:42:53,430 --> 01:42:56,640
clinical. Oh, yeah. It is. And
what is when you when you put

1735
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:59,400
in, you put the cursor on it
shows you its main targets.

1736
01:42:59,580 --> 01:43:03,600
Right. But what what is it? Who
are they click it doesn't do

1737
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:08,160
shit. I don't know. It's usually
another one goes straight up

1738
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:11,520
from that. And there's a thing
outside other than admitted like

1739
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:14,970
kind of in the Atlantic Ocean
off the African coast? Yeah,

1740
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:18,810
I see. Yeah, I see that too.
What is that? Pirate Ship.

1741
01:43:21,210 --> 01:43:22,260
Ahoy, matey.

1742
01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:25,260
Maybe the mapping API is off?
That's a good question. I don't

1743
01:43:25,260 --> 01:43:26,040
know what those are.

1744
01:43:26,430 --> 01:43:31,260
And now here's another last
question. Yes. You see China and

1745
01:43:31,260 --> 01:43:34,230
the Korean peninsula. Yes.
What's good? There's nothing

1746
01:43:34,230 --> 01:43:36,780
going on in China. Are you
kidding me? They have one with

1747
01:43:36,810 --> 01:43:39,750
one blip up there. Yeah, there's
one blip and it's not doing

1748
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:41,970
anything. And of course the

1749
01:43:42,180 --> 01:43:45,270
immediately as chat room will
say is Well, you know, they can

1750
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:46,380
mask IP addresses.

1751
01:43:49,770 --> 01:43:54,270
Right this and there's nothing
in Alaska either. This thing is

1752
01:43:54,270 --> 01:43:54,570
both

1753
01:43:54,570 --> 01:43:57,960
a beautiful setup. They all the
money is right here in the in

1754
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,450
the honey pots. This map is what
does it mean?

1755
01:44:00,450 --> 01:44:02,340
And yeah, here's the money.
Here's the money thing on the

1756
01:44:02,340 --> 01:44:05,670
right, it's as to attack targets
number one in the world number

1757
01:44:05,670 --> 01:44:12,120
578. As we speak, United States.
The second attack target is the

1758
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:18,300
mil.mil.gov. United States. And
then as we go from 600, do you

1759
01:44:18,300 --> 01:44:21,510
have a total of 800 attacks
going on against us right now?

1760
01:44:21,630 --> 01:44:25,170
And then Russia has 28 attacks
against it. China's got

1761
01:44:25,170 --> 01:44:29,340
apparently none. This is just a
thing that set up to get money.

1762
01:44:29,910 --> 01:44:33,270
All these bulk rappers that, you
know, let's say we got to do

1763
01:44:33,270 --> 01:44:35,610
cyber billions of dollars need
to be spent.

1764
01:44:35,790 --> 01:44:39,900
Here's the pitch that Kagan
provides why we need to, I guess

1765
01:44:39,900 --> 01:44:44,010
engage in Viking Norse. The
company that wrote this report

1766
01:44:44,010 --> 01:44:47,910
with them put screenshots of
that attack map in the report.

1767
01:44:48,180 --> 01:44:50,010
And this is all related to Iraq.
Patrick

1768
01:44:50,010 --> 01:44:53,130
Kagan says people need to wake
up to the threat. Look,

1769
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:56,460
I've spent this discussion
trying not to overhype the cyber

1770
01:44:56,460 --> 01:45:00,120
threat, but the reality is that
a very skilled and then

1771
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:04,050
determined attacker who spends a
lot of time preparing for an

1772
01:45:04,050 --> 01:45:07,290
attack can do an enormous amount
of damage to our critical

1773
01:45:07,290 --> 01:45:10,620
infrastructure and cause a lot
of people to die and do a

1774
01:45:10,620 --> 01:45:12,390
phenomenal amount of economic
damage.

1775
01:45:12,660 --> 01:45:16,380
That causes a lot of people to
die. Who has died from a cyber

1776
01:45:16,380 --> 01:45:22,230
attack so far, it would cause a
lot of people to die. Please

1777
01:45:22,230 --> 01:45:23,970
make it very difficult to
recover

1778
01:45:24,630 --> 01:45:28,080
all those scenarios of a cyber
Pearl Harbor plausible?

1779
01:45:28,230 --> 01:45:31,050
Could we have a massive cyber
attack that did a huge amount of

1780
01:45:31,050 --> 01:45:33,630
damage? And was a surprise? Yes,
absolutely. We could.

1781
01:45:34,050 --> 01:45:37,110
Governments might not plan this
kind of attack from a standing

1782
01:45:37,110 --> 01:45:41,370
start. He says, rather, it could
come about through rival states,

1783
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:45,000
testing each other's boundaries,
and slipping into cyber war.

1784
01:45:45,060 --> 01:45:47,910
The scenarios that keep me up at
night are scenarios of

1785
01:45:47,910 --> 01:45:51,930
miscalculation. There's always
this probing around perceived

1786
01:45:51,930 --> 01:45:56,190
red lines. And there's always a
question of what do we think we

1787
01:45:56,190 --> 01:45:59,670
can get away with? And in the
context of a world that has

1788
01:45:59,670 --> 01:46:02,670
become incredibly violent, and
the risk of miscalculation is

1789
01:46:02,670 --> 01:46:03,210
high?

1790
01:46:05,550 --> 01:46:08,130
You gotta get your calculus in
order, I guess. So we don't do

1791
01:46:08,130 --> 01:46:11,100
it. Mike. Why take the risk?
Let's just get some security,

1792
01:46:11,130 --> 01:46:15,000
buy some stuff. Why take a risk
lie? Take a chance, take a

1793
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:15,600
chance.

1794
01:46:15,690 --> 01:46:16,500
Precisely.

1795
01:46:18,540 --> 01:46:21,330
There was a way you were
reading, you're playing that

1796
01:46:21,330 --> 01:46:25,980
clip, there was a massive cyber
attack that took place last

1797
01:46:25,980 --> 01:46:28,020
year. I mean, it was so much
red, it almost covered the

1798
01:46:28,020 --> 01:46:33,600
complete screen all aimed at
Seattle. Ah, then it is it's

1799
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:34,500
dropped off.

1800
01:46:35,940 --> 01:46:38,460
Well, good work always good to
know the Kagan's are on the

1801
01:46:38,460 --> 01:46:40,650
case. Setting up the

1802
01:46:40,650 --> 01:46:44,100
doors money to be made as
government money to be had as

1803
01:46:44,100 --> 01:46:48,030
simple as writing a check. We
need to get in on this deal.

1804
01:46:48,330 --> 01:46:48,630
Where we

1805
01:46:48,630 --> 01:46:51,420
could have known we were on this
North deal a long time ago,

1806
01:46:51,450 --> 01:46:55,650
which is dumb. Now me Well, I'm
not there. We're lazy. We're

1807
01:46:55,650 --> 01:46:55,920
just

1808
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:59,880
we're actually not dumb. But he
does apply because after the

1809
01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:03,090
show I'm done. We're not lazy
that we just don't. I don't know

1810
01:47:03,090 --> 01:47:07,200
what it is why we I think we
just can't I don't think we need

1811
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:12,120
to get on the scam bandwagon
right yet. And I think that's

1812
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:13,650
what it amounts. Right.

1813
01:47:14,250 --> 01:47:17,400
Well, time for podcast to
embrace capitalism, John.

1814
01:47:18,179 --> 01:47:22,139
Yeah. Well, it would be living
the life for Riley getting on

1815
01:47:22,139 --> 01:47:27,869
this bandwagon. You know, kill
this thing. Boom. Yeah. Right.

1816
01:47:29,219 --> 01:47:34,619
What is this Kim and wrote in
follow up? Clip I put here I

1817
01:47:34,619 --> 01:47:35,279
don't know. That's

1818
01:47:35,370 --> 01:47:39,180
Kim Jong Il, I'm sure. I'm sure.
I don't know. Is it you want to

1819
01:47:39,180 --> 01:47:39,780
go back to that?

1820
01:47:39,810 --> 01:47:40,890
I don't want to just play it.

1821
01:47:41,700 --> 01:47:44,730
Contractor whose case ignited a
controversy over the Obama

1822
01:47:44,730 --> 01:47:47,520
administration's targeting of
journalists has been freed after

1823
01:47:48,900 --> 01:47:52,110
Stephen Kim was convicted of
leaking documents on North Korea

1824
01:47:52,110 --> 01:47:55,710
to Fox News. Ken was charged
under the Espionage Act and

1825
01:47:55,710 --> 01:47:59,610
nearly a century old law which
was also used to classify Fox

1826
01:47:59,610 --> 01:48:03,450
News reporter James Rosen a co
conspirator in the case. Ken has

1827
01:48:03,450 --> 01:48:05,670
always maintained his innocence.

1828
01:48:05,700 --> 01:48:11,040
Right. The President had a very
interesting he was on a panel,

1829
01:48:11,370 --> 01:48:14,610
which was the poverty panel if
that wasn't the exact title, but

1830
01:48:14,610 --> 01:48:19,740
that was the topic was poverty.
And the I can see our president

1831
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:24,480
as he's on his way out, he has
really been making his mark and

1832
01:48:24,480 --> 01:48:30,420
I believe the the racism that is
definitely being hyped by the

1833
01:48:30,420 --> 01:48:34,020
entire administration and
followed on nicely by the media

1834
01:48:35,910 --> 01:48:39,840
is a big part of what he wants
to leave as his legacy. Like I

1835
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:44,010
helped black Americans in
addition, you know, I killed

1836
01:48:44,010 --> 01:48:49,170
Osama bin Laden obviously. What
else will be in there? Oh, just

1837
01:48:49,260 --> 01:48:52,680
let's bitch about Fox News while
we're at it. Did you see this

1838
01:48:52,710 --> 01:48:53,790
this panel that he was on?

1839
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:55,830
Yeah, I have a clip.

1840
01:48:55,980 --> 01:48:59,040
I have. Blimey I have four clips
short ones.

1841
01:48:59,340 --> 01:49:01,320
Okay, well once you play you got
more clips playing

1842
01:49:01,349 --> 01:49:05,909
Okay. Well, I'll start with the
Fox News Why was funny. The fox

1843
01:49:05,909 --> 01:49:11,369
is funny but no, I actually
don't think is funny. Doesn't

1844
01:49:11,369 --> 01:49:12,329
have better things to do.

1845
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:19,410
I think the effort to suggest
that the poor are sponges

1846
01:49:19,470 --> 01:49:23,730
leeches are don't want to work

1847
01:49:24,060 --> 01:49:29,850
that has is he confusing? Atlas
Shrugged with Fox News. I don't

1848
01:49:29,850 --> 01:49:35,010
think I've ever seen anyone
anywhere on American news. So

1849
01:49:35,010 --> 01:49:38,250
called news programs ever say
the poor are leeches and sponges

1850
01:49:38,250 --> 01:49:39,750
that's directly from

1851
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:45,090
sources very old. The
phraseology that my Dad Yeah,

1852
01:49:45,210 --> 01:49:50,640
World War Two vet would have
said sponges. Buddy says but

1853
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:51,120
even your

1854
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:52,530
dad does he talk about the poor

1855
01:49:52,530 --> 01:49:55,710
that way? No, he would talk
about this frenzy is that we're

1856
01:49:55,710 --> 01:49:56,970
sponges, right? But

1857
01:49:57,060 --> 01:50:02,490
apparently Fox news these days.
calls a poor people, sponges and

1858
01:50:02,490 --> 01:50:05,520
leeches, according to the
President of United States,

1859
01:50:05,580 --> 01:50:09,390
he did I don't I've never heard
that. We'd have a clip of it, we

1860
01:50:09,390 --> 01:50:09,630
wouldn't

1861
01:50:09,630 --> 01:50:11,100
force him to be funny or

1862
01:50:11,670 --> 01:50:12,150
don't want

1863
01:50:12,150 --> 01:50:21,930
to work, or lazy. Or undeserving
got traction. And look, it's

1864
01:50:21,930 --> 01:50:23,310
still being propagated.

1865
01:50:23,340 --> 01:50:27,630
Where does it get traction? I'm
not seeing

1866
01:50:27,660 --> 01:50:32,490
I mean, I have to say that, you
know, if you watch Fox News, on

1867
01:50:32,490 --> 01:50:36,840
a regular basis, it is a
constant menu, they will find,

1868
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:42,270
like, folks who make me man, I
haven't know where they find

1869
01:50:42,270 --> 01:50:48,150
them, right. I don't want to
work. I just want a free Obama

1870
01:50:48,150 --> 01:50:52,920
phone or whatever. And that
becomes an entire narrative.

1871
01:50:53,460 --> 01:50:57,360
Right? That get wrapped up,
right. And you very rarely do

1872
01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:01,590
hear an interview of a waitress,
which is much more typical,

1873
01:51:01,590 --> 01:51:04,560
who's raising a couple of kids
and is doing everything right,

1874
01:51:04,590 --> 01:51:06,030
but still can't pay the bills?

1875
01:51:06,060 --> 01:51:09,060
Actually, I see a lot of that
everywhere. That's the one thing

1876
01:51:09,060 --> 01:51:09,780
I do see.

1877
01:51:10,380 --> 01:51:15,720
And so if we're going to change
how John Boehner and Mitch

1878
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:20,340
McConnell think we're gonna have
to change how our body politic

1879
01:51:20,730 --> 01:51:23,460
thinks, which means we're gonna
have to change how the media

1880
01:51:23,490 --> 01:51:25,560
reports on these issues.

1881
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,960
Okay. So I thought that that was
funny that he saw the Obama

1882
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:34,740
phone thing that was okay.
That's funny. But then he goes

1883
01:51:34,770 --> 01:51:37,080
into here, there's people don't
like

1884
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:40,740
being poor. It's hard being poor
people. People don't like being

1885
01:51:40,740 --> 01:51:45,210
poor. And it's, it's time
consuming is stressful. It is.

1886
01:51:45,690 --> 01:51:47,670
It's hard. And so it's

1887
01:51:47,670 --> 01:51:51,570
hard being poor, Hello, Captain
Obvious over time,

1888
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:58,200
families, frayed men who could
not get jobs left, mothers who

1889
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:01,650
are single are not able to read
as much to their kids. So all

1890
01:52:01,650 --> 01:52:05,850
that was happening 40 years ago
to African Americans. And now

1891
01:52:05,850 --> 01:52:08,910
what we're seeing is that those
same trends have accelerated and

1892
01:52:08,910 --> 01:52:10,920
they're spreading to the broader
community.

1893
01:52:11,490 --> 01:52:15,240
Man, his messaging here is, it
was just black people. Now it's

1894
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:17,460
everybody. Yeah, that's called
Private.

1895
01:52:17,490 --> 01:52:20,700
What kind of thinking is going
on in his head? Well, this is

1896
01:52:20,700 --> 01:52:23,370
not when I became president, it
was just black people. Now it's

1897
01:52:23,370 --> 01:52:24,330
everybody would work.

1898
01:52:25,440 --> 01:52:28,740
And put that on your library.
All right. That's it? How do we

1899
01:52:28,740 --> 01:52:31,710
talk about rich people, then
this would be interesting 25

1900
01:52:31,770 --> 01:52:39,000
hedge fund managers made more
than all the kindergarten

1901
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:45,840
teachers in the country. So I'm
not when I say that, I'm not

1902
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:49,680
saying that because I dislike
hedge fund managers, or I think

1903
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:57,540
they're evil. I'm saying that
you're paying a lower rate than

1904
01:52:58,530 --> 01:53:05,940
a lot of folks who are making
$300,000 a year, you, you pretty

1905
01:53:05,940 --> 01:53:09,990
much have more than you'll ever
be able to use and your family

1906
01:53:09,990 --> 01:53:13,200
will ever be able to use.
There's a fairness issue

1907
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:16,680
involved here. And by the way,
if we were able to close that

1908
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:19,980
loophole, I can now invest in
early childhood education that

1909
01:53:19,980 --> 01:53:23,550
will make a difference. That's
where the rubber hits the road.

1910
01:53:25,020 --> 01:53:27,300
To wealth tax, where the
question

1911
01:53:27,330 --> 01:53:33,720
of compassion, I'm My Brother's
Keeper comes into play. And if

1912
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:38,970
we can't ask from society's
lottery winners,

1913
01:53:39,390 --> 01:53:43,230
this was interesting societies
lottery winners.

1914
01:53:43,590 --> 01:53:48,600
Now I might understand a
lottery. I love my take on this.

1915
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:52,230
First of all, a hedge fund
manager is not a lottery winner,

1916
01:53:52,230 --> 01:53:55,620
he works hard. And he has to
learn a skill, even though it's

1917
01:53:55,620 --> 01:53:58,110
a skill that I'm sure a lot of
people can learn, but it doesn't

1918
01:53:58,110 --> 01:54:01,560
just fall into the money. A
lottery winner is a guy who

1919
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:05,250
invest a couple $1,000 into a
startup and the next thing you

1920
01:54:05,250 --> 01:54:07,710
know, he's a billionaire or
whatever, or 100 millionaire,

1921
01:54:07,890 --> 01:54:10,110
like overnight when he didn't
read that's a lottery winner.

1922
01:54:10,110 --> 01:54:12,870
And there's plenty of them. But
to call the hedge fund guys a

1923
01:54:12,870 --> 01:54:16,260
lottery winner, I think, I mean,
they make a lot of money, or

1924
01:54:16,260 --> 01:54:18,570
they're their lottery winner
because they got into that

1925
01:54:18,570 --> 01:54:23,460
business by accident, perhaps
this bull crap lottery winner.

1926
01:54:23,490 --> 01:54:27,150
Well, he brings it up again, in
his discussion. This is about

1927
01:54:27,450 --> 01:54:31,110
making this a fairness issue. So
I guess you have to distribute

1928
01:54:31,110 --> 01:54:34,140
it which is where you get the
wealth tax from which we don't

1929
01:54:34,140 --> 01:54:38,730
need to go into that again.
We're very controversial by the

1930
01:54:38,730 --> 01:54:39,960
way your your

1931
01:54:41,460 --> 01:54:42,540
viewpoints on that.

1932
01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:47,760
But he brings it up again here
in talking about how money with

1933
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:51,330
the lottery winners that has
really ripped apart our society.

1934
01:54:51,599 --> 01:54:55,949
We don't dispute that the free
market is the greatest producer

1935
01:54:55,949 --> 01:54:59,999
of wealth in history. It has
lifted billions of people out

1936
01:54:59,999 --> 01:55:05,159
out of poverty, we believe in
property rights rule of law, so

1937
01:55:05,159 --> 01:55:11,789
forth. But there has always been
trends in the market in which

1938
01:55:13,559 --> 01:55:19,349
concentrations of wealth can
lead to some being left behind.

1939
01:55:20,399 --> 01:55:25,259
And what's happened in our
economy is that those who are

1940
01:55:25,259 --> 01:55:29,549
doing better and better, more
skilled, more educated, luckier,

1941
01:55:29,579 --> 01:55:33,809
having greater advantage and
luckier are withdrawing from

1942
01:55:34,919 --> 01:55:41,069
sort of the commons. Kids start
going to private schools. Kids

1943
01:55:41,459 --> 01:55:46,949
start working at private clubs
instead of the public parks, an

1944
01:55:46,949 --> 01:55:52,109
anti government ideology, then
disinvest from those common

1945
01:55:52,109 --> 01:55:56,969
goods and those things that draw
us together. And that in part

1946
01:55:56,999 --> 01:56:02,729
contributes to the fact that
there's less opportunity for our

1947
01:56:02,729 --> 01:56:04,049
kids, all of our kids

1948
01:56:07,410 --> 01:56:11,790
it's it's really like he's, like
he read Atlas Shrugged and just

1949
01:56:11,790 --> 01:56:15,030
want to me all of this comes
directly from that.

1950
01:56:16,980 --> 01:56:18,660
Maybe read Atlas Shrugged. And

1951
01:56:18,660 --> 01:56:24,360
it's, it's in an interesting
way. Education Secretary Arne

1952
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:29,610
Duncan, has a thought of what to
do with these kids that we can't

1953
01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:34,020
send to early education, then
who are clearly because

1954
01:56:34,140 --> 01:56:38,610
apparently, the only today's
rich people are have private

1955
01:56:38,610 --> 01:56:45,420
clubs. Okay? No, I don't think
that's true. Poverty today is

1956
01:56:45,420 --> 01:56:48,780
very different than than poverty
in the past because we have no

1957
01:56:48,810 --> 01:56:52,380
Kardashians, but at least you're
entertained while you're eating

1958
01:56:52,380 --> 01:56:53,130
wood chips.

1959
01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:56,160
That's kind of a private club,
very private club.

1960
01:56:57,240 --> 01:57:01,920
This is Arne Duncan, about what
he believes the federal

1961
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:05,010
government in the United States
should do with poor children.

1962
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:07,170
I think all of our schools
should be community centers, our

1963
01:57:07,170 --> 01:57:10,740
schools should be open 12 1314
hours a day, with a wide variety

1964
01:57:10,740 --> 01:57:14,100
of after school programming. On
thankfully, in the vast, vast

1965
01:57:14,100 --> 01:57:16,500
majority of communities around
the nation, our schools are

1966
01:57:16,500 --> 01:57:19,410
actually safe havens, very
little violence happening in

1967
01:57:19,410 --> 01:57:22,110
schools, it's really happening.
The vast majority is on on the

1968
01:57:22,110 --> 01:57:24,960
streets. If we could keep our
kids there longer. We think that

1969
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:27,900
makes a lot of sense. Keep the
kids a little longer, more

1970
01:57:28,110 --> 01:57:31,170
vocational programs, more
chances for folks to figure out

1971
01:57:31,170 --> 01:57:33,840
what they're learning in school.
How's that relevant to where

1972
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:37,890
they go the rest of their lives?
Now when I flew out did one sort

1973
01:57:37,890 --> 01:57:40,290
of road tested with the kids
too? I thought, this idea of

1974
01:57:40,290 --> 01:57:42,330
public boarding schools and
that's a little bit of a

1975
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:45,990
different idea or controversy
idea. But the question is do we

1976
01:57:45,990 --> 01:57:49,140
have some children where there's
not a mom, there's not a dad,

1977
01:57:49,140 --> 01:57:51,780
there's not a grandma, there's
there's nobody home? And there's

1978
01:57:51,780 --> 01:57:55,110
certain kids we should have 24/7
to really create a safe

1979
01:57:55,110 --> 01:57:56,970
environment and give them a
chance.

1980
01:58:00,510 --> 01:58:02,550
There Shula put them in Shula,
here's

1981
01:58:02,580 --> 01:58:05,220
you here is little slip at the
beginning, at the very

1982
01:58:05,220 --> 01:58:05,760
beginning.

1983
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:08,370
Yeah, it was. I guess not. I
think

1984
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:15,360
it is. You can listen for it.
after school programming. Oh, my

1985
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:15,960
goodness. I think

1986
01:58:16,230 --> 01:58:18,210
school should be community
centers. Our schools should be

1987
01:58:18,210 --> 01:58:21,960
able to 12 1314 hours a day with
a wide variety of after school

1988
01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:22,650
programming.

1989
01:58:23,730 --> 01:58:26,520
Nailed it. Nailed it. Good
catch.

1990
01:58:26,910 --> 01:58:28,860
When he means it, by the way,
it's not a slip.

1991
01:58:29,339 --> 01:58:32,489
That was not he didn't stumble.
He went right into it after

1992
01:58:32,489 --> 01:58:36,299
school. That grant that is a
very low Bay,

1993
01:58:36,690 --> 01:58:41,370
you will obey and come to the
Shuler, the kindergarten, the

1994
01:58:41,370 --> 01:58:46,650
pre kindergarten we grow to
children into Schuler 24/7. And

1995
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:51,840
I like to we should have those
kids 24/7 Wow, what is

1996
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:54,030
happening, people what is going
on?

1997
01:58:55,170 --> 01:58:58,980
is really bad. And that guy who

1998
01:58:58,980 --> 01:59:03,660
isn't? Yeah. Did you see the new
TV show? Blackish?

1999
01:59:04,410 --> 01:59:06,420
Yeah, well, I've seen it. Yeah,
I saw when it first came out.

2000
01:59:07,050 --> 01:59:09,870
I'm surprised you didn't didn't
pull a clip from it.

2001
01:59:10,980 --> 01:59:17,310
I you know, I've thought about
it. It's a comedy. And it has

2002
01:59:17,310 --> 01:59:22,440
all kinds of screwball memes.
And it's about it's I kind of

2003
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:24,720
fascinated by this show, but I
find it less and less

2004
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:29,100
entertaining is kind of, it's
almost like it's a racist show.

2005
01:59:29,550 --> 01:59:33,840
It's all blacks. Yes. And I was
only someone sent me one episode

2006
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:37,380
to look at. And this is I don't
know if this might be the first

2007
01:59:37,380 --> 01:59:41,880
one. I have no idea. Which
episode this is where it's an

2008
01:59:41,910 --> 01:59:46,440
all black family. It's kind of
like a modern Huxtables I would

2009
01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:50,460
say where except the mom is
really funnier, funnier, and the

2010
01:59:50,460 --> 01:59:53,760
mom is really smart. She's the
doctor in this one. Then there's

2011
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:59,190
three kids and the son who's I
guess the middle kid. has four

2012
01:59:59,190 --> 02:00:05,850
kids. So there's only one boy
and he in the morning claims

2013
02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:08,070
that he's a republican and the
reason why he's a Republican

2014
02:00:08,070 --> 02:00:11,580
because it's really hot chick
who's in the Young Republicans,

2015
02:00:11,580 --> 02:00:15,810
and he's, he's all in on
Republican. Just he's

2016
02:00:15,810 --> 02:00:19,320
Republican. And this is how the
this episode starts, although we

2017
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:20,100
have a problem,

2018
02:00:20,430 --> 02:00:22,620
Jr. is a Republican.

2019
02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:30,000
Well, that's okay. So he wants
to shop at Banana Republic, they

2020
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:32,550
have a crazy generous return
policy.

2021
02:00:32,970 --> 02:00:37,470
You're not getting it. All
right. He's a Republican, a

2022
02:00:37,470 --> 02:00:38,010
notary

2023
02:00:38,010 --> 02:00:42,780
public is a noble profession.
We'll save us tons of time bow.

2024
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:52,200
Oh, Republican. A member of the
Irish Republican Army. Okay, so

2025
02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:55,170
if you got to take down a couple
of fish and chip shots to be

2026
02:00:55,170 --> 02:00:57,510
free of British rule. Great. You
got to do what you got to do.

2027
02:00:57,540 --> 02:01:01,950
No. Ronald Reagan, it's so hard
for anyone to believe that the

2028
02:01:01,950 --> 02:01:04,410
blockade is becoming a
Republican that they have to go

2029
02:01:04,410 --> 02:01:07,980
through this. Oh, what do you
mean? Ann Coulter? Fox News, Tea

2030
02:01:07,980 --> 02:01:10,560
Party? Republican,

2031
02:01:11,220 --> 02:01:13,170
Republican? Yes.

2032
02:01:13,170 --> 02:01:20,010
No. Yes. Yes. Yes, we don't do
that. We are compassionate

2033
02:01:20,040 --> 02:01:23,220
liberals who believe in
tolerance, acceptance open,

2034
02:01:23,910 --> 02:01:25,530
or whatever. But we're black.
All right. That's all it

2035
02:01:25,530 --> 02:01:25,890
matters.

2036
02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:29,970
When did he start believing that
immigrants should go back across

2037
02:01:29,970 --> 02:01:31,740
the border that evolution
doesn't exist?

2038
02:01:33,420 --> 02:01:37,110
And hate women thrown out? And I
love guns and all this stuff,

2039
02:01:37,350 --> 02:01:38,700
that it's a comedy show.

2040
02:01:39,060 --> 02:01:42,600
And I don't know, I know that a
little bit there. You don't know

2041
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:46,740
how much of that is satire. And
how much of that is propaganda.

2042
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:50,490
But it does address the issue,
which is, you know, all black

2043
02:01:50,490 --> 02:01:54,060
should be Democrats because they
were propagandized into that

2044
02:01:54,060 --> 02:01:54,840
some years ago

2045
02:01:54,900 --> 02:01:59,460
and all and during the the
course of the White House

2046
02:01:59,460 --> 02:02:03,150
Correspondents Dinner. The
President specifically called

2047
02:02:03,150 --> 02:02:06,090
out some of the actors from
Blackish. Who were there.

2048
02:02:09,150 --> 02:02:11,880
Oh, I Well, as you know, I've
stupidly missed that.

2049
02:02:11,910 --> 02:02:17,340
So and so I can play you a clip
from the the was it the Lear

2050
02:02:17,340 --> 02:02:19,650
foundation? Marty Copland?

2051
02:02:20,280 --> 02:02:23,130
Oh, yes. The course of our work.
This is

2052
02:02:24,060 --> 02:02:31,110
in the last two years 11 to
13 335 storylines that we worked

2053
02:02:31,110 --> 02:02:36,510
on, have been aired. We've
worked with 35 networks in the

2054
02:02:36,510 --> 02:02:40,740
past four years. 91 different
television shows.

2055
02:02:41,220 --> 02:02:42,690
Well, ad 92.

2056
02:02:44,340 --> 02:02:47,580
And that would also do wait, but
I still say the way that was

2057
02:02:47,580 --> 02:02:52,890
written was so over the top,
that it may have been a satire,

2058
02:02:52,890 --> 02:02:55,320
and maybe they gave it the other
word. Yeah, we got to do this.

2059
02:02:55,350 --> 02:02:55,830
It's the only

2060
02:02:56,250 --> 02:02:59,280
Of course you can get away with
it. It was really mean. But it's

2061
02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:00,510
still being said.

2062
02:03:00,930 --> 02:03:06,120
Yeah. It's smart ever caught.
They say I haven't stopped

2063
02:03:06,120 --> 02:03:09,330
watching the show. But I suspect
it would be something like that.

2064
02:03:09,330 --> 02:03:10,770
And that show and

2065
02:03:10,980 --> 02:03:17,700
no coincidence are totally
understandable. CSI Cyber has

2066
02:03:17,700 --> 02:03:22,080
been renewed for the second
season.

2067
02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:27,600
Dummies show ever. No, I take it
back. That other show that you

2068
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:28,200
liked.

2069
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:37,080
The bombshell was a call that
one? Yes. But I will I will

2070
02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:41,700
remind everybody that there are
new rules. Since 2013. We have

2071
02:03:41,700 --> 02:03:45,180
been under new rules with the
National Defense Authorization

2072
02:03:45,180 --> 02:03:49,260
Act where the Smith Mundt Act
was repealed meaning the United

2073
02:03:49,260 --> 02:03:53,100
States government is now
completely legally able to

2074
02:03:53,100 --> 02:03:57,030
propagandize its own citizens.
And this seems like exactly what

2075
02:03:57,030 --> 02:04:02,190
is going on here. And yeah, and
it's just it's all happening at

2076
02:04:02,190 --> 02:04:06,240
the same time, everything. So
coincidental. It all just kind

2077
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:08,520
of comes around neatly, a nice
little bundle.

2078
02:04:10,770 --> 02:04:15,000
Well, the Republican National
Committee should be separate

2079
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:21,660
that rinse, rinse and repeat
previous guy. He is such a loser

2080
02:04:21,660 --> 02:04:25,110
that I don't say they just let
this stuff happen. I mean, that

2081
02:04:25,110 --> 02:04:27,450
clip alone that you play, and
you play it a lot, and I think

2082
02:04:27,450 --> 02:04:30,780
should be played a lot of the
guy from the Lear foundation.

2083
02:04:31,980 --> 02:04:35,460
Overtly throwing making TV shows
do propaganda. I don't know what

2084
02:04:35,460 --> 02:04:38,640
it is for pay. I bet it is, but
there's money involved. And the

2085
02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:42,480
reason I suggest that is because
it's apparent that NCIS the most

2086
02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:48,210
popular show on television, and
NCIS la have competing agendas

2087
02:04:48,210 --> 02:04:52,290
insofar as their messaging is
concerned. The NCIS show has pro

2088
02:04:52,290 --> 02:04:56,610
government, Joe anti-terrorist
just sounds like it came

2089
02:04:56,610 --> 02:05:00,000
straight out of this. It's a guy
like to show anyway because if

2090
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,360
The characterizations are great.
But it's all pro government

2091
02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:07,800
propaganda. And the NCIS la
seems to be anti government

2092
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:11,940
propaganda. It's got all kinds
of like negative twist where

2093
02:05:11,940 --> 02:05:15,180
they you know, it's just it's so
apparent If anyone wishes, the

2094
02:05:15,180 --> 02:05:18,780
two shows that there's one of
the shows, I believe, after

2095
02:05:18,780 --> 02:05:22,230
listening to that lyric clip,
again, is getting paid to put

2096
02:05:22,230 --> 02:05:24,600
this stuff in and they'd be glad
to do and the other shows not

2097
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:26,550
and they're irked about it and
so that's why they go in the

2098
02:05:26,550 --> 02:05:27,390
other direction.

2099
02:05:27,420 --> 02:05:30,930
But the nice thing about it is
the American public loves it.

2100
02:05:31,050 --> 02:05:33,750
And worldwide public loves it.
They just love it. They eat it

2101
02:05:33,750 --> 02:05:36,540
now, did you see the it's not
worth playing? Because the audio

2102
02:05:36,540 --> 02:05:40,230
doesn't do anything so poorly
done trailer? I think Minority

2103
02:05:40,230 --> 02:05:43,770
Report the TV series, did you
see this? No, I did not. Okay,

2104
02:05:43,860 --> 02:05:47,910
so minority report was based on
pre crime. And it was it was

2105
02:05:47,910 --> 02:05:52,200
time in the movie. Yeah, Tom
Cruise. They had this way to see

2106
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:54,510
that a crime was going to happen
so someone was just thinking

2107
02:05:54,510 --> 02:05:56,910
about it and you'd have to go
and you get arrested because you

2108
02:05:56,910 --> 02:06:01,350
were committing a pre crime in
the way I understand the

2109
02:06:01,350 --> 02:06:04,380
television show from the
trailer, there are two people

2110
02:06:04,500 --> 02:06:10,110
who received all of the pre
crime scenery this was all

2111
02:06:10,110 --> 02:06:13,230
programmed in their head and
they know they now have to go

2112
02:06:13,230 --> 02:06:17,460
out to protect the people who
are about to be murdered. It's

2113
02:06:17,460 --> 02:06:20,310
like completely flipping it
around in a very safe range

2114
02:06:20,310 --> 02:06:24,600
the yes premise of the story
which is absolute I think is one

2115
02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:27,030
of the most famous science
fiction guy I can't remember his

2116
02:06:27,030 --> 02:06:31,680
name offhand but in the chat
room knows great writer great

2117
02:06:31,680 --> 02:06:39,150
storyteller so they say let's do
it this way. Yeah. It's gonna be

2118
02:06:39,150 --> 02:06:43,770
a fail that a story is delicate
you can't really it's gonna

2119
02:06:43,770 --> 02:06:47,850
be a fail because I don't think
the lead girl is hot objects

2120
02:06:47,850 --> 02:06:50,910
needs to be hotter that's that's
come on I know television I know

2121
02:06:50,910 --> 02:06:54,660
this works John this is that's
they have bad casting poorly

2122
02:06:54,660 --> 02:06:56,790
cast poorly cast.

2123
02:06:58,860 --> 02:07:06,330
Who let's see well, if that

2124
02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:09,360
man before we move in those you
seem to have stalled out here.

2125
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:10,710
Let's play well, I'm

2126
02:07:10,710 --> 02:07:12,630
number things just didn't quite
know where to go. So I'll let

2127
02:07:12,630 --> 02:07:12,870
you

2128
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:16,890
but let's play this talk about
the the stupid location for the

2129
02:07:16,890 --> 02:07:22,500
Obama Library, Obama South Side
clip. With a library

2130
02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:26,430
and a foundation on the
Southside of Chicago, not only

2131
02:07:26,430 --> 02:07:32,760
will we be able to encourage and
affect change locally, but what

2132
02:07:32,760 --> 02:07:36,420
we can also do is to attract a
world to Chicago.

2133
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:41,850
Southside Chicago, I don't know
if you've ever been there. I

2134
02:07:41,850 --> 02:07:44,880
have been there recently. I've
been there. And it's craphole

2135
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:47,910
it's a shithole. It's going to
this library is going to be the

2136
02:07:47,910 --> 02:07:51,810
only one in the country with
graffiti all over it. So that I

2137
02:07:51,810 --> 02:07:53,910
just thought that was the
dumbest thing and says some dude

2138
02:07:53,910 --> 02:07:57,120
helping Rahm Emanuel in a
because he had his other

2139
02:07:57,120 --> 02:07:59,760
choices. Hawaii is the place to
put it. They don't have it and

2140
02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:03,750
don't never have opportunity.
Right, right. Okay, I got

2141
02:08:03,750 --> 02:08:09,420
another one. So I'm watching a
kids show. And I'm thinking, Oh,

2142
02:08:09,450 --> 02:08:15,000
somehow Adams gotten us to some
free publicity out of me. Yeah.

2143
02:08:15,750 --> 02:08:19,710
And I'm thinking that I wanted
to congratulate you. Because

2144
02:08:19,710 --> 02:08:22,530
this show is the first thing
that came to mind when I saw

2145
02:08:22,530 --> 02:08:26,190
this little show that and look
at play apple and the and you

2146
02:08:26,190 --> 02:08:29,100
have to tolerate it. It goes 40
seconds but Apple in the and

2147
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:43,620
we begin with the letter A. A. A
is for the end found in Apple.

2148
02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:55,170
Apple starts with oh, what is
this going to do now? It's

2149
02:08:55,200 --> 02:08:59,190
jumping on the tree. Stop where
the apple will fall? Oh, no, the

2150
02:08:59,190 --> 02:09:08,070
apple is falling. Ah, somebody's
got the apple. Who has the apple

2151
02:09:08,070 --> 02:09:13,830
now? Hey, look. That's Adam.
Adam has the apple now.

2152
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:18,360
You're right. That was genius.
How did you get that in there?

2153
02:09:18,390 --> 02:09:21,750
You're right. And since I saw
that, I said that no agenda came

2154
02:09:21,750 --> 02:09:22,410
right to mind.

2155
02:09:23,160 --> 02:09:27,990
You're right. I'll say that.
You're right. 40 seconds of my

2156
02:09:27,990 --> 02:09:28,500
life.

2157
02:09:30,180 --> 02:09:36,720
Hey, man. I'm gonna show to no
agenda. Imagine all the people

2158
02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:38,760
who could do oh yeah, that'd be
fun

2159
02:09:46,500 --> 02:09:49,110
Well, we do have some people to
thank for show. What is this?

2160
02:09:49,110 --> 02:09:56,730
720 21 721721 including Cole
Calista in North Attleboro,

2161
02:09:56,760 --> 02:10:00,990
Massachusetts. He wants some
jobs. of jobs karma, we'll put

2162
02:10:00,990 --> 02:10:03,720
that out to you again because
12345 and also from Dame

2163
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:09,630
Elizabeth Bora Zan who gave me a
check for 12345 at the twit

2164
02:10:09,630 --> 02:10:10,290
cottage.

2165
02:10:10,350 --> 02:10:11,100
Oh nice.

2166
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:13,050
Got to say hi to that when

2167
02:10:13,050 --> 02:10:15,000
you took the show off the rails.

2168
02:10:15,330 --> 02:10:18,150
Yeah, well, I always take the
shoe off the railroad work I

2169
02:10:18,150 --> 02:10:22,710
must be banned. And so she she
left me a note which I

2170
02:10:23,430 --> 02:10:27,060
conveniently lost but she wanted
and I think since she's a dame

2171
02:10:27,060 --> 02:10:30,330
and she did this in person, she
wanted some some general karma

2172
02:10:30,330 --> 02:10:31,950
for some specific thing. All
right.

2173
02:10:34,200 --> 02:10:35,910
You've got karma.

2174
02:10:38,010 --> 02:10:44,700
Ready kilowatt, aka John Grom.
Ling it from battlement Mesa,

2175
02:10:44,790 --> 02:10:47,550
Colorado. Nice name for a town
7373.

2176
02:10:49,620 --> 02:10:54,060
Yes, I will do it today. So I
messed that up. He wanted me to

2177
02:10:54,060 --> 02:10:57,540
record a PSA about Field Day.
It's happening today after the

2178
02:10:57,540 --> 02:10:59,430
show I apologize. Just

2179
02:11:00,090 --> 02:11:07,380
Oh, seven eateries to him K Oh,
je je code Jag. Richard Altman

2180
02:11:07,380 --> 02:11:11,640
and Winnipeg, Manitoba. $63. Sir
Nick of the South Side Herndon,

2181
02:11:11,640 --> 02:11:16,710
Virginia. 5514 Green Team
cleaning in massive Manchester

2182
02:11:16,710 --> 02:11:20,520
New Hampshire. 5510. Sir Thomas
Nussbaum and Virginia Beach,

2183
02:11:20,520 --> 02:11:25,440
Virginia 5551 15 To celebrate
the oxymoron week which is kind

2184
02:11:25,440 --> 02:11:31,800
of oxymoron Palindrome week is
unusual week of palindromes

2185
02:11:31,800 --> 02:11:34,020
every day is about everyday
Japan according to the US

2186
02:11:34,020 --> 02:11:37,740
calendar. It is yeah, yes, I
said that specific. Very good.

2187
02:11:37,770 --> 02:11:41,220
Ralph Massaro in Kirkland,
Washington, home of Costco,

2188
02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:45,630
originally Kailyn. And this
store in Northville, Michigan,

2189
02:11:45,630 --> 02:11:52,710
Fitch 515, Joe Wagner, to defy
15 in Atlanta, Georgia.

2190
02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:54,720
He do special.

2191
02:11:55,110 --> 02:11:59,610
He's got a douche bag cause he
wears it. Please call out Zack

2192
02:12:01,260 --> 02:12:06,780
and Mike douchebag. As
douchebags they will listen

2193
02:12:06,780 --> 02:12:10,590
regularly Zack and Mike don't do
and I've never heard their names

2194
02:12:10,590 --> 02:12:15,780
in the donation segments. I
would recommend you confirm that

2195
02:12:15,780 --> 02:12:17,460
they're douchebags by asking
them

2196
02:12:19,140 --> 02:12:21,420
who shouldn't be and that will
be a douche bag check.

2197
02:12:21,750 --> 02:12:27,570
Douche bag check. Exactly, yeah.
Matthew Mullen in brick, New

2198
02:12:27,570 --> 02:12:32,850
Jersey. 5115 Anthony garlic
anger in Downers Grove, Illinois

2199
02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:37,770
downers, which is a cow is dead
in the field. 5115 he's got

2200
02:12:37,770 --> 02:12:39,750
another douchebag call this we
got here

2201
02:12:46,260 --> 02:12:51,090
all right. All right. Can I get
a douchebag call out for Humana

2202
02:12:51,180 --> 02:13:00,270
insurance to state of Illinois.
A big douche bag and Chi Hill

2203
02:13:00,270 --> 02:13:06,030
big douche bag. And Kyle
Schekman is going overboard. He

2204
02:13:06,030 --> 02:13:10,830
never donates. It's going over
overboard. Jason Daniels in

2205
02:13:10,830 --> 02:13:15,660
Dallas, Texas. If you want 15
Matthew mon Gan in Baltimore,

2206
02:13:15,660 --> 02:13:22,320
Maryland. Go down here,
Baltimore, Maryland, Brad Bauer

2207
02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:27,180
in Chicago, Illinois. He's got
to please call a douchebag day

2208
02:13:27,300 --> 02:13:30,960
wherever these kind of Matthew
has something else. Oh, that was

2209
02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:31,560
Brad Bauer. I'm

2210
02:13:31,560 --> 02:13:33,090
sorry, Brad Bauer way but

2211
02:13:33,090 --> 02:13:36,480
I want to read Matthew says
giving you a portion of the

2212
02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:41,220
first money I've made as a
lawyer. Nice. Nice. Thank you

2213
02:13:41,220 --> 02:13:42,630
for supporting. Thank you.

2214
02:13:43,139 --> 02:13:49,859
Brad Bauer is calling out. Mike,
Colonel Steve. And we'll put

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some job karma at the end for
you. Bradford Ramsey in Wichita

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Falls, Texas 5115 Aaron rush for
doin 15 Avon, South Dakota,

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Arthur Santos in Stanmore,
Middlesex, UK 5115. And the rest

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of these are $50 donations
starting with Charles Evans of

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Hawthorne new Woods Eve. Oh,
Yves Charles Eve's in Hawthorne

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woods, Illinois. Sam. Mint
cannon mink, mink cannon main

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cannon in Espo, Finland. Brian
Matthews, in Balbriggan, Dublin,

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Ireland, David Pete and Aubrey,
Texas. Were up the street from

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you. Sir Mike Westerfield $50
from Parts Unknown. Patricia

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Worthington in Miami, Florida.
Brandon says Why $50 Jacob roci

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AK will she act was the ACC not
sure. And North I should know.

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North Vancouver, BC Vancouver,
John Anderson Youngsville

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Louisiana. Sorry, Matthew live
Kingston in Sudbury, Ontario

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02:15:02,039 --> 02:15:05,879
Canada John is this is his Sir
John striker. I

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02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:07,530
don't know. It sounds right.

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Yes and then San Antonio and he
concludes the list of donors for

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02:15:12,900 --> 02:15:17,070
show 721 which is now listed up
there again with a number and

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02:15:17,070 --> 02:15:17,310
also

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02:15:17,580 --> 02:15:21,960
to credit Chris male he was
credited as tiny Prague's but

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02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:22,950
was Chris male for

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02:15:22,950 --> 02:15:25,950
his we did put it on the on the
list in the credits those

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02:15:25,950 --> 02:15:29,010
credits. Yes, of course. But we
didn't call his name because we

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were confused. It happens.
That's

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what happens.

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02:15:31,380 --> 02:15:37,080
Yeah, but thanks, Chris. That's
it. That's all she wrote.

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I got an email from Annie.

2241
02:15:42,150 --> 02:15:43,170
Annie, get your gun.

2242
02:15:43,469 --> 02:15:46,229
Hi, Adam. And John. No agenda
has inspired me in the classroom

2243
02:15:46,229 --> 02:15:50,159
for my final week of student
teaching. I collaborated with my

2244
02:15:50,159 --> 02:15:54,299
mentor teacher to do a mini unit
called breaking the media mind

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02:15:54,299 --> 02:15:56,519
control. Wait a minute, we
should have that differently.

2246
02:15:58,679 --> 02:16:04,079
Breaking the media mind control
we're going to have, we're going

2247
02:16:04,079 --> 02:16:07,769
to have students compare the
words and phrases being used

2248
02:16:07,769 --> 02:16:11,039
surrounding the Baltimore riots
from different sources. They

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02:16:11,039 --> 02:16:13,289
will look at the words used
during other riots in the US and

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02:16:13,289 --> 02:16:16,739
compare how people are being
categorized nice. The end result

2251
02:16:16,739 --> 02:16:20,099
will be deciding if using the
word thug is intentionally used

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02:16:20,099 --> 02:16:22,709
to dehumanize these people and
diminish the importance of their

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02:16:22,709 --> 02:16:28,439
poverty. Thank you, Annie. This
is this is this makes me very

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02:16:28,439 --> 02:16:32,519
happy, particularly on a day
where donations are still low. I

2255
02:16:32,519 --> 02:16:35,609
like this. This is this shows
that we're making a difference

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02:16:35,609 --> 02:16:36,689
for the young people, John?

2257
02:16:38,100 --> 02:16:41,850
Well, it's for some for some
young people. And I think it's

2258
02:16:41,850 --> 02:16:45,210
great that some teachers have
picked up on this, because it's

2259
02:16:45,210 --> 02:16:48,570
more entertaining the kids, I
believe if I was a kid, and I

2260
02:16:48,570 --> 02:16:51,060
had a teacher that was going to
have me do this sort of

2261
02:16:51,060 --> 02:16:55,560
analysis. Yeah. And I could find
little things and talk about oh,

2262
02:16:55,560 --> 02:16:58,740
look at they use this term. So
that were the the what's his

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02:16:58,740 --> 02:17:02,490
name? Sonny farms guy who said
the head of the Department of

2264
02:17:02,490 --> 02:17:06,990
Education, Arne Duncan. Yes, any
farms key and when he says

2265
02:17:06,990 --> 02:17:10,080
programming, exactly after
school programming, right? I

2266
02:17:10,080 --> 02:17:14,790
mean, come on. Jim, and I would
love this stuff they love to do

2267
02:17:14,820 --> 02:17:15,600
kids love to

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02:17:15,600 --> 02:17:17,130
discover but I would

2269
02:17:17,130 --> 02:17:20,610
encourage your kids in this mini
unit to use search not any

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02:17:20,610 --> 02:17:24,990
shownotes.com Every single
article we've ever had in the

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02:17:24,990 --> 02:17:27,930
shownotes and most a lot of them
discussed but certainly not all

2272
02:17:28,110 --> 02:17:31,470
all have offline copies stored
in searchable format through

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02:17:31,470 --> 02:17:35,280
searched out any show notes like
years of it years of not all

2274
02:17:35,640 --> 02:17:38,340
because we didn't really start
with a good system till a couple

2275
02:17:38,340 --> 02:17:42,360
years into the show. But it's a
good reason I got something with

2276
02:17:42,360 --> 02:17:45,840
Rackspace happened and I got a
an email with an innocuous

2277
02:17:45,840 --> 02:17:49,470
emails like there's a ticket for
that three servers at Rackspace.

2278
02:17:49,470 --> 02:17:53,100
I've no idea what's going on. So
by getting to bed, I'm tired.

2279
02:17:53,100 --> 02:17:55,950
I've been doing prep I've been
listening to douchebags. It's

2280
02:17:55,950 --> 02:18:00,540
what is 130 and I see a tweet
saying oh man I searched out any

2281
02:18:00,540 --> 02:18:03,840
show notes is down then the
server had stopped responding or

2282
02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:07,260
whatever. So up until two in the
morning I'm restarting this

2283
02:18:07,260 --> 02:18:09,420
getting it all set up again
because people really use it.

2284
02:18:09,780 --> 02:18:13,470
It's a valuable resource. All a
part of the no agenda show

2285
02:18:13,470 --> 02:18:19,590
package.org/in

2286
02:18:19,650 --> 02:18:20,850
A sad package

2287
02:18:27,900 --> 02:18:30,240
the band was a happy birthday in
his sir Nick on the South Side

2288
02:18:30,240 --> 02:18:33,810
celebrating today Sammy miniguns
says Happy Birthday to his son

2289
02:18:34,710 --> 02:18:38,280
turned nine on turns nine on the
15th and although she didn't

2290
02:18:38,280 --> 02:18:42,120
request it we say happy birthday
to Dame Francine Hardaway from

2291
02:18:42,120 --> 02:18:48,330
all your buddies here the best
podcast in the universe. Hey,

2292
02:18:48,360 --> 02:18:52,440
damn Francine. She will not
request it herself. But I caught

2293
02:18:52,440 --> 02:18:56,400
it so I'm happy for you and I
believe Happy Birthday to her

2294
02:18:56,400 --> 02:19:00,930
two nice things today. So a very
important one was Sir John

2295
02:19:00,930 --> 02:19:04,320
Fletcher. So grab your sword
there Johnny Boy. Got it. Okay,

2296
02:19:04,350 --> 02:19:08,550
that was the short version.
That's Griffin and John Fletcher

2297
02:19:08,550 --> 02:19:12,120
stuff on on gentlemen, you are
about to become Knights of the

2298
02:19:12,420 --> 02:19:18,330
Round Table. Very proud to
pronounce the key theme Sir Seth

2299
02:19:18,330 --> 02:19:22,770
Griffith and Sir Fletcher have
cocktails castle for you. But

2300
02:19:22,770 --> 02:19:25,110
for some blow red boys and
Chardonnay whiskey and wet

2301
02:19:25,110 --> 02:19:28,620
wipes. Three gashes in a bucket
of fried chicken, hot pans and

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02:19:28,620 --> 02:19:31,830
bows, fruit, beer and Legos,
bong hits and bourbon sparkling

2303
02:19:31,830 --> 02:19:35,190
cider and escorts porn stars and
pot. But of course for you,

2304
02:19:35,430 --> 02:19:39,570
always the backup mutton and me.
Thank you, Sir John Fletcher for

2305
02:19:39,600 --> 02:19:44,070
contributing very significantly
to the program. With your

2306
02:19:44,100 --> 02:19:48,420
Fletcher fest shout outs, you
can find them at 720 that no

2307
02:19:48,420 --> 02:19:51,630
agenda notes.com the previous
episode, we did entire a bundle

2308
02:19:51,630 --> 02:19:54,330
of them all that were put out
there and if your name is one of

2309
02:19:54,330 --> 02:19:57,570
the names like the license plate
GC in tourist shops, then you're

2310
02:19:57,570 --> 02:20:05,910
in luck. You get a freebie And
did we did we want to continue

2311
02:20:05,910 --> 02:20:10,170
our pie donations with the the
shocked?

2312
02:20:10,709 --> 02:20:13,559
Yeah, I'll do that. Yeah, I'll
put it in the news last week,

2313
02:20:13,709 --> 02:20:16,139
but I'm gonna be the next the
next and not necessary

2314
02:20:16,139 --> 02:20:16,559
newsletter.

2315
02:20:16,589 --> 02:20:18,629
I'd like to I'd like to get it
rolling properly. I think it's

2316
02:20:18,839 --> 02:20:19,529
Yeah, good idea.

2317
02:20:19,559 --> 02:20:23,159
We had to suggest we thought out
in some meaningful way but it'd

2318
02:20:23,159 --> 02:20:23,909
be another pie.

2319
02:20:23,940 --> 02:20:27,270
And here is the jobs karma that
is often requested.

2320
02:20:27,719 --> 02:20:30,689
Jobs, jobs and jobs. That's

2321
02:20:33,810 --> 02:20:44,670
karma. Okay, by believe we
prudence to talk about the TPP.

2322
02:20:45,720 --> 02:20:49,080
Since it has being so
mischaracterized in the press,

2323
02:20:50,640 --> 02:20:55,470
where I've even seen articles
saying, the house, we're going

2324
02:20:55,470 --> 02:20:57,330
to the going to pass, which I
didn't, but they're going to

2325
02:20:57,330 --> 02:21:02,010
pass it the TPP. And your
girlfriend,

2326
02:21:03,690 --> 02:21:07,620
you know who she is. Here's your
girlfriend, Barbara Boxer.

2327
02:21:09,180 --> 02:21:14,280
She stood up in Congress, and
they said, crazy things about

2328
02:21:14,520 --> 02:21:15,570
this TPP

2329
02:21:15,810 --> 02:21:21,090
that let me just send straight.
Barbara Boxer said crazy things.

2330
02:21:21,780 --> 02:21:22,890
Right that I preface

2331
02:21:22,890 --> 02:21:24,420
it by saying she's your
girlfriend.

2332
02:21:24,690 --> 02:21:26,910
Yeah. Thanks for that. You're
welcome. And I appreciate it.

2333
02:21:26,940 --> 02:21:27,660
And of course,

2334
02:21:27,690 --> 02:21:32,490
Elizabeth Warren, is now in a
public feud with the President

2335
02:21:32,490 --> 02:21:35,460
about the and it's not the TPP
that is being voted on as the

2336
02:21:35,460 --> 02:21:42,720
Trade Promotion Authority, which
and I read the document as 133

2337
02:21:42,720 --> 02:21:48,510
pages. It's kind of a guideline
to set out what will be

2338
02:21:48,510 --> 02:21:51,450
negotiated from the United
States side, I didn't really see

2339
02:21:51,450 --> 02:21:55,410
anything nefarious in it other
than obviously, as part of the

2340
02:21:55,410 --> 02:21:59,910
New World Order Program, a DA.
But all this yelling and

2341
02:21:59,910 --> 02:22:03,510
screaming and, and Barbara Boxer
even says blatantly untrue

2342
02:22:03,510 --> 02:22:08,070
things. But apparently she went
to a TPP meeting, she wasn't

2343
02:22:08,070 --> 02:22:10,530
allowed to take notes. And well,
here's what she was talking

2344
02:22:10,530 --> 02:22:11,280
about. Well, let

2345
02:22:11,280 --> 02:22:12,930
me tell you, let me tell

2346
02:22:12,930 --> 02:22:13,410
you

2347
02:22:14,520 --> 02:22:16,860
what you have to do to read this
agreement.

2348
02:22:18,480 --> 02:22:21,330
She's talking about the TPP,
which is being negotiated in

2349
02:22:21,330 --> 02:22:25,290
secret, not the TPA, which is
what is being voted on follow

2350
02:22:25,290 --> 02:22:30,420
this. You can only take a few of
your staffers who happen to have

2351
02:22:30,420 --> 02:22:37,290
a security clearance because God
knows why this is secure. This

2352
02:22:37,290 --> 02:22:43,050
is classified is nothing to do
with defense. It has nothing to

2353
02:22:43,050 --> 02:22:46,830
do with going after ISIS. It has
nothing to do with any of that.

2354
02:22:46,980 --> 02:22:52,170
But it is classified. So I go
down with my staff that I could

2355
02:22:52,170 --> 02:22:53,310
get to go with me.

2356
02:22:53,340 --> 02:22:58,290
Here's the scary thing. This
woman has classified clearance.

2357
02:22:58,830 --> 02:23:00,090
That was frightening.

2358
02:23:00,870 --> 02:23:05,010
And as soon as I get there, the
guard says to me hand over your

2359
02:23:05,010 --> 02:23:11,010
electronics. Okay, I gave over
my electronics, then the guard

2360
02:23:11,010 --> 02:23:16,800
says you can't take notes. I
said I can't take notes. Well,

2361
02:23:16,830 --> 02:23:20,430
you can take notes, but you have
to give them back to me, and

2362
02:23:20,430 --> 02:23:25,260
I'll put them in a file. So I
said, Wait a minute, I'm gonna

2363
02:23:25,260 --> 02:23:28,650
take notes. And then you're
gonna take my notes away from

2364
02:23:28,650 --> 02:23:31,380
me. And then you're gonna have
them in a file and you can read

2365
02:23:31,380 --> 02:23:38,280
my notes, Not on your life. So
instead of standing in a corner,

2366
02:23:38,460 --> 02:23:42,060
trying to figure out how to
bring a trade bill to the floor,

2367
02:23:42,240 --> 02:23:46,860
that doesn't do anything. For
the middle class that is held so

2368
02:23:46,860 --> 02:23:51,150
secretively that you need to go
down there and hand over your

2369
02:23:51,150 --> 02:23:55,410
electronics, and give up your
right to take notes and bring

2370
02:23:55,410 --> 02:23:58,290
them back to your office, they
ought to come over here and

2371
02:23:58,290 --> 02:24:01,020
figure out how to help the
middle class, how to extend the

2372
02:24:01,020 --> 02:24:06,120
highway bill, how to raise the
minimum wage, how to move toward

2373
02:24:06,120 --> 02:24:10,680
clean energy, how to fix our
currency manipulation that we

2374
02:24:10,680 --> 02:24:11,610
see abroad.

2375
02:24:11,640 --> 02:24:15,030
Alright. So I think she's
confused. I didn't think she

2376
02:24:15,030 --> 02:24:18,660
knows what she's talking about.
The Trade Promotion Authority

2377
02:24:18,660 --> 02:24:22,140
has been commonplace in the
United States government since I

2378
02:24:22,140 --> 02:24:27,660
think 772 or 74. It is not an
abnormal thing. For some reason,

2379
02:24:27,660 --> 02:24:32,760
everybody's got their their
panties in a bunch about this.

2380
02:24:33,150 --> 02:24:36,720
And by the way, the TPA
specifically states that

2381
02:24:36,780 --> 02:24:40,410
negotiations from the US side
will be about currency

2382
02:24:40,410 --> 02:24:43,830
manipulation, so she hasn't even
read the fucking bill to get to

2383
02:24:43,830 --> 02:24:48,660
get this woman out. Why is
everyone all freaked out about

2384
02:24:48,660 --> 02:24:53,820
this, John? And then I saw
what's his name? The union guy

2385
02:24:53,850 --> 02:24:54,900
not Ditka MC

2386
02:24:55,199 --> 02:24:58,139
was Well, that's one of the
things that union guy in there

2387
02:24:58,169 --> 02:25:02,549
they believe that this The
enactment, there's two problems.

2388
02:25:02,549 --> 02:25:05,189
One is they're going to give a
fast track ability to Obama.

2389
02:25:05,189 --> 02:25:07,829
That's what he wants. He can
just take care of this without a

2390
02:25:07,859 --> 02:25:09,209
bunch of fuss. So I just

2391
02:25:09,210 --> 02:25:12,930
want to stop you there. I read
this thing, and it addresses all

2392
02:25:12,930 --> 02:25:16,350
concerns. EPS clearly states
what the United States position

2393
02:25:16,350 --> 02:25:20,940
will be in the negotiations.
Okay. It's not just oh, you can

2394
02:25:20,940 --> 02:25:23,460
have do whatever you want. And
there's an up and down vote.

2395
02:25:23,490 --> 02:25:26,490
Now. She's talking about that
she can't read. You can't take

2396
02:25:26,490 --> 02:25:29,070
notes. I believe she's talking
about Stein. I think she's

2397
02:25:29,070 --> 02:25:33,090
actually she's talking about the
specific. The actual deal, the

2398
02:25:33,090 --> 02:25:34,260
real TPP.

2399
02:25:34,620 --> 02:25:36,780
Yeah, that's what she's talking
about. Nobody seems to be able

2400
02:25:36,780 --> 02:25:39,720
to look at this. I think
they're, I think it's just a

2401
02:25:39,720 --> 02:25:42,900
secrecy thing. I think they're
fed up. Because it makes total

2402
02:25:42,900 --> 02:25:44,550
sense. No wonder wraps.

2403
02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:47,640
It makes sense to me, because
you'll never get anything done.

2404
02:25:47,970 --> 02:25:52,290
If if everything is in public.
It'll just go on for 10 years.

2405
02:25:55,170 --> 02:25:58,080
Will it just it's somehow it's
bothersome. You're like a

2406
02:25:58,080 --> 02:26:01,740
senator, let's say you are and
you can't do anything. Yeah,

2407
02:26:01,740 --> 02:26:04,200
this thing is going on, it's
super secret. You want it you

2408
02:26:04,200 --> 02:26:06,510
want it to go on for 10 years. I
mean, one of the reasons that we

2409
02:26:06,510 --> 02:26:09,870
have the government set up the
way it is, is so to really make

2410
02:26:09,870 --> 02:26:13,860
it difficult to get things done.
Because we need to start doing

2411
02:26:13,860 --> 02:26:17,970
stuff willy nilly. It never
works out. It's always crap.

2412
02:26:18,270 --> 02:26:20,430
It's because you Oh, and then
you got to do more stuff to fix

2413
02:26:20,430 --> 02:26:23,460
what you've screwed up to begin
with. And that's the way the

2414
02:26:23,460 --> 02:26:25,770
system works. The system is
like, that's when people say,

2415
02:26:25,770 --> 02:26:28,050
Oh, these government workers,
they don't do any work. I'm

2416
02:26:28,050 --> 02:26:30,810
always of the opinion. In fact,
when I was a government worker,

2417
02:26:30,810 --> 02:26:34,860
myself, I I promoted this idea
is you don't want them working.

2418
02:26:35,190 --> 02:26:38,850
This kind of a fellow welfare.
Yeah, you just work. You know,

2419
02:26:38,850 --> 02:26:41,010
you go shopping, let them go
shopping, because if they're

2420
02:26:41,010 --> 02:26:45,180
working, they're causing
trouble. And I think that's the

2421
02:26:45,270 --> 02:26:48,540
case with this. And the normal
situation would be exactly what

2422
02:26:48,540 --> 02:26:51,480
you said it would never get
done. Maybe it shouldn't get

2423
02:26:51,480 --> 02:26:52,920
done. Maybe that's the point.

2424
02:26:54,300 --> 02:26:55,140
No, okay.

2425
02:26:55,859 --> 02:26:57,869
I mean, it's just I know, it's
an off the wall theory.

2426
02:26:58,140 --> 02:27:01,980
Well, I'm again, I'm all in I
want, I love it, because we need

2427
02:27:01,980 --> 02:27:05,340
to get to this point much
faster. I want to witness the

2428
02:27:05,340 --> 02:27:07,770
New World Order and the collapse
and the fight and the road.

2429
02:27:09,420 --> 02:27:12,150
Works out properly, you're not
going to manage it, because it's

2430
02:27:12,150 --> 02:27:15,270
never going to happen because of
these guys, like you just said,

2431
02:27:15,270 --> 02:27:18,180
I think you've maybe hit the
nail on the head. If everybody

2432
02:27:18,180 --> 02:27:22,080
was in on this, it would never
move along. It would just be so

2433
02:27:22,080 --> 02:27:24,690
you, you know, because right
now, they just passed this

2434
02:27:24,690 --> 02:27:28,110
thing. We did this trade deal.
That's why the Democrats turned

2435
02:27:28,110 --> 02:27:30,930
on the president. And then
Elizabeth Warren being one of

2436
02:27:30,930 --> 02:27:31,500
the leaders,

2437
02:27:31,530 --> 02:27:34,890
and she has to apologize or that
she has to go to apologize to

2438
02:27:34,890 --> 02:27:35,490
the President.

2439
02:27:36,240 --> 02:27:41,370
Well, the President insulted her
as kind of, and they had to

2440
02:27:41,370 --> 02:27:44,700
address this in the press
conference with your buddy Jason

2441
02:27:44,910 --> 02:27:50,850
Hughes. Yeah. Josh. What's his
name again? Josh? Earnest. Yeah,

2442
02:27:50,880 --> 02:27:56,040
Jason eaves. President insults.
Warren, as you see there's a

2443
02:27:56,040 --> 02:27:57,510
mountain out of a molehill.

2444
02:27:58,080 --> 02:28:01,380
On the trade question. The
specific the substance of what

2445
02:28:01,620 --> 02:28:04,950
Senator Brown said. He said the
President had been disrespectful

2446
02:28:05,310 --> 02:28:07,980
when he suggested that Senator
Warren was just another

2447
02:28:07,980 --> 02:28:13,020
politician for that part of it
was the president was the

2448
02:28:13,020 --> 02:28:15,000
President's response to the
allegation that he was being

2449
02:28:15,000 --> 02:28:15,960
disrespectful.

2450
02:28:17,340 --> 02:28:19,830
I believe that that specific
reference, I should have brought

2451
02:28:19,830 --> 02:28:22,260
the text in front of me, but I
think that the President in the

2452
02:28:22,260 --> 02:28:25,320
interview was asked directly
about Senator Warren and the

2453
02:28:25,320 --> 02:28:30,990
President noted that Senator
Warren holds elective office as

2454
02:28:30,990 --> 02:28:33,030
the President does. The
President included him

2455
02:28:33,090 --> 02:28:36,060
politician I think was though
Yeah, yeah. politician, like I

2456
02:28:36,060 --> 02:28:38,010
said to the president, like,
Well, I think he said, like the

2457
02:28:38,010 --> 02:28:41,910
rest of us. Yeah. Right. And I
think that's an indication that

2458
02:28:42,150 --> 02:28:44,640
the point the President's making
is that she's making a political

2459
02:28:44,640 --> 02:28:47,700
argument, the President's making
a political argument to, and we

2460
02:28:47,700 --> 02:28:51,660
can have a robust difference of
opinion and a robust debate. And

2461
02:28:52,020 --> 02:28:56,610
the point is, though, that this
doesn't reflect a difference in

2462
02:28:56,610 --> 02:28:57,240
values.

2463
02:28:57,720 --> 02:29:02,970
I believe this will ultimately
lead to a splintering of the

2464
02:29:02,970 --> 02:29:06,360
Democratic Party if it
continues, where Elizabeth

2465
02:29:06,360 --> 02:29:08,910
Warren has only said she wasn't
she can always decide to run for

2466
02:29:08,910 --> 02:29:15,420
president. And maybe that's why
this trade deal, which since

2467
02:29:15,450 --> 02:29:17,490
because we don't know what's in
it, we don't know what's in it.

2468
02:29:17,520 --> 02:29:20,820
Yeah, there's leak stuff. Fine.
But until we see it, it doesn't

2469
02:29:20,820 --> 02:29:24,660
exist. It may be that's why
there's a the Democrats have

2470
02:29:24,660 --> 02:29:27,000
voted against the president, not
so much to be against the

2471
02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:32,460
president but to have a secret
weapon to get the defiant child

2472
02:29:32,490 --> 02:29:36,630
Pocahontas, Elizabeth Warren
into the fold as the savior of

2473
02:29:36,630 --> 02:29:41,190
America, the savior of the
unions who are huge in

2474
02:29:42,660 --> 02:29:46,080
supporting democratic campaigns,
certainly presidential

2475
02:29:46,140 --> 02:29:50,580
elections. I'm not saying that
I'm convinced but it could be a

2476
02:29:50,580 --> 02:29:51,360
way to do it.

2477
02:29:51,780 --> 02:29:53,730
Well, there's got to be
something done it because

2478
02:29:53,730 --> 02:29:58,170
Hillary is people are taking a
dislike to her over all this

2479
02:29:58,170 --> 02:30:02,130
stuff going on. I didn't get any
good Hillary Clinton, I have

2480
02:30:02,130 --> 02:30:06,420
a couple of the Hillary 2016
clips not related directly to

2481
02:30:06,420 --> 02:30:11,370
this, but the first one would be
the No, this is about her

2482
02:30:11,370 --> 02:30:17,250
brother, Tony Rodham. Now, the
we who first heard from our

2483
02:30:17,280 --> 02:30:19,410
Uber, I mean, I discussed it
previously. But our Uber

2484
02:30:19,410 --> 02:30:25,170
sources, reiterated that Hillary
Clinton's brother received a

2485
02:30:25,170 --> 02:30:27,360
company he's working with or
consulting with received the

2486
02:30:27,360 --> 02:30:34,290
sole license to extract gold
from Haiti. And then so now he's

2487
02:30:34,350 --> 02:30:37,080
suddenly we pointed out on the
show a number two long time ago,

2488
02:30:37,110 --> 02:30:38,610
nobody else talks about this.

2489
02:30:38,670 --> 02:30:43,380
So here is a CNN panel. And
they'll talk about everything

2490
02:30:43,410 --> 02:30:47,340
except for the gold in Haiti, of
course, and they'll also kind of

2491
02:30:47,340 --> 02:30:48,240
say it's okay.

2492
02:30:48,270 --> 02:30:52,050
The allegation is that Hillary
Clinton's younger brother has

2493
02:30:52,050 --> 02:30:55,740
parlayed his relationship with
Bill and Hillary Clinton

2494
02:30:55,740 --> 02:30:58,860
throughout the years to come up
with some sometimes dubious

2495
02:30:58,860 --> 02:31:02,760
business deals for himself.
Maggie, you just laid it out?

2496
02:31:03,240 --> 02:31:06,900
Pretty well. Right. I mean,
look, there has been an ongoing

2497
02:31:07,230 --> 02:31:10,470
focus on the brothers Rodham,
right. Tony and Hugh Rodham

2498
02:31:10,470 --> 02:31:12,570
Hillary Clinton's brothers. What
was striking about the story

2499
02:31:12,570 --> 02:31:14,880
that my colleagues DeVito did is
there are these court

2500
02:31:14,880 --> 02:31:18,660
transcripts where Tony Rodham
openly says I leaned on my

2501
02:31:18,660 --> 02:31:21,540
brother in law to get help me. I
went through the Clinton

2502
02:31:21,540 --> 02:31:24,660
Foundation and he says this,
that type of stuff, I think is

2503
02:31:24,660 --> 02:31:27,390
very unhelpful that you are
going to see an attack mailers,

2504
02:31:27,390 --> 02:31:29,700
you're going to see that
potentially in ads, it says here

2505
02:31:29,700 --> 02:31:33,360
when Mr. Rodham was short on
cash in 2010. Mr. Clinton helped

2506
02:31:33,360 --> 02:31:37,500
him get a job for $72,000 a year
raising investments in green

2507
02:31:37,500 --> 02:31:40,980
tech, automotive and electric
car company, then owned by Terry

2508
02:31:40,980 --> 02:31:43,950
McAuliffe, an old friend of Mr.
Clinton's and now the governor

2509
02:31:43,950 --> 02:31:45,660
of Virginia, don't we all help
our brothers?

2510
02:31:46,440 --> 02:31:49,050
I was gonna say, I'm not sure I
agree. What's wrong with that?

2511
02:31:49,470 --> 02:31:50,100
What's wrong with that?

2512
02:31:50,130 --> 02:31:53,430
I know that I think people will
forgive helping. So we're not a

2513
02:31:53,430 --> 02:31:53,820
problem.

2514
02:31:53,850 --> 02:31:57,090
I mean, he's not a politician.
Right. Bill Clinton was not an

2515
02:31:57,090 --> 02:31:59,430
office, it doesn't seem to
conflict with her job as

2516
02:31:59,430 --> 02:32:02,940
Secretary of State if Bill
Clinton helped out the brother

2517
02:32:02,940 --> 02:32:05,160
in law. I don't see that as a
scandal to me

2518
02:32:05,160 --> 02:32:07,590
if there's any issue. I totally
agree. I think that people

2519
02:32:07,590 --> 02:32:10,590
forgive you help your family,
you help your brother. I think

2520
02:32:10,590 --> 02:32:12,930
that the more you see things of
I, you know, I went to the

2521
02:32:12,930 --> 02:32:15,180
foundation for help. No, the
Foundation says there's no

2522
02:32:15,180 --> 02:32:17,700
evidence that week or anything
that he said, but it's just it's

2523
02:32:17,700 --> 02:32:19,110
not great. It's a nice how

2524
02:32:19,110 --> 02:32:22,020
that works. Just obviously, I've

2525
02:32:22,470 --> 02:32:25,740
taken the thing from you know,
you're driving on a bumpy road.

2526
02:32:26,310 --> 02:32:29,580
And you could go into a ditch,
which would be discussing the

2527
02:32:29,610 --> 02:32:34,110
goldmine deal, but no, you pull
off into the freeway, and you're

2528
02:32:34,110 --> 02:32:38,070
home free with it, like,
actually a nice story. Oh, he

2529
02:32:38,070 --> 02:32:41,190
needed a job and nobody was
affected. But somebody gave him

2530
02:32:41,190 --> 02:32:44,490
a job. His brother hooked him up
and helped him out level up

2531
02:32:44,490 --> 02:32:47,730
anybody would do anybody would
do that for their, for their

2532
02:32:47,730 --> 02:32:49,380
brother, they needed money.

2533
02:32:49,710 --> 02:32:52,680
So that's some running
interference is what we call

2534
02:32:52,680 --> 02:32:56,010
that for the Clintons. Then this
other story, which I've been

2535
02:32:56,010 --> 02:32:58,170
waiting to figure out what is
going on. The story has been

2536
02:32:58,170 --> 02:33:01,740
around for a while. And then
finally, I figured out where

2537
02:33:01,740 --> 02:33:04,950
this is coming from. You've
probably heard this somewhere in

2538
02:33:04,950 --> 02:33:08,160
the past week before the train
derailment and

2539
02:33:08,160 --> 02:33:11,160
the group looking to replace
Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill

2540
02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:15,450
with a woman has now chosen a
successor, abolitionist Harriet

2541
02:33:15,450 --> 02:33:19,560
Tubman one an online vote, the
group now hopes the 600,000

2542
02:33:19,560 --> 02:33:22,650
people who voted will help
pressure the president to make

2543
02:33:22,680 --> 02:33:23,550
the change.

2544
02:33:24,690 --> 02:33:30,780
So this group, the women on the
$20 bill, and they had a vote,

2545
02:33:30,780 --> 02:33:36,750
and then we didn't really
discuss much of this. The the

2546
02:33:36,750 --> 02:33:40,200
woman who was who set up this
foundation, I believe her name

2547
02:33:40,200 --> 02:33:44,970
is Barbara or its Howard. She
worked for Hillary Clinton

2548
02:33:44,970 --> 02:33:50,970
during her previous presidential
campaign. So this would be a

2549
02:33:50,970 --> 02:33:54,570
great issue that the American
people will be able to get

2550
02:33:54,570 --> 02:33:57,930
behind because unfortunately,
that's how stupid we are. Yeah,

2551
02:33:57,930 --> 02:34:01,590
man. That's unfair. We put women
on so they want to remove

2552
02:34:01,620 --> 02:34:07,890
Jackson, put the put, well,
Harriet

2553
02:34:07,890 --> 02:34:09,870
Tubman. Yeah. Now,

2554
02:34:10,590 --> 02:34:13,440
it's perfect for by the way, if
anyone should be on the 20. It

2555
02:34:13,440 --> 02:34:16,170
should be Hillary. I mean, she
deserves it. Let's put her

2556
02:34:16,170 --> 02:34:20,400
observes that. And how does that
actually work? As far as I've

2557
02:34:20,400 --> 02:34:25,290
been able to find the Bureau of
Engraving and Printing decide

2558
02:34:25,320 --> 02:34:30,810
what money looks like. And this
women on the $20 bill is calling

2559
02:34:30,900 --> 02:34:35,190
for the President to to change
us, which I guess could be

2560
02:34:35,190 --> 02:34:40,500
good. I think he can. Directive
Bureau of Engraving to

2561
02:34:40,530 --> 02:34:44,820
industry to do that? I think so.
But it would be fantastic to

2562
02:34:45,360 --> 02:34:47,730
know for Hillary to say, look,
when I'm president, I will

2563
02:34:47,730 --> 02:34:49,230
change that people will love
that.

2564
02:34:49,260 --> 02:34:54,510
Well, Hillary is in the news for
just that. As a matter of fact

2565
02:34:54,510 --> 02:34:57,660
is in Time Magazine two hours
ago, Hillary Clinton shows her

2566
02:34:57,660 --> 02:34:59,970
support for Harriet Tubman on
the 20

2567
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:02,760
Well, there you go. Hey, go

2568
02:35:02,820 --> 02:35:05,640
dawn. She's all in and this will
get her the bike to the black

2569
02:35:05,640 --> 02:35:08,430
vote that she needs. It's
perfect combinations.

2570
02:35:08,520 --> 02:35:10,020
So Obama,

2571
02:35:10,050 --> 02:35:12,630
was Tubman gay by any chance.
Was she a lesbian? That would be

2572
02:35:12,630 --> 02:35:13,260
perfect.

2573
02:35:13,440 --> 02:35:17,100
Maybe he doesn't have that she
did have one child Gertie Davis

2574
02:35:17,100 --> 02:35:23,790
so it's possible that she wasn't
or was I don't know. So Hillary,

2575
02:35:24,180 --> 02:35:29,340
this will show you whether Obama
is or is not pro Hillary.

2576
02:35:30,090 --> 02:35:33,750
Because it could be a nice issue
for Hillary if Obama doesn't do

2577
02:35:33,750 --> 02:35:36,990
it, right. So he's gonna have to
be torn because here's a black

2578
02:35:36,990 --> 02:35:42,600
woman who was, you know, what a
notorious abolitionist. I would

2579
02:35:42,600 --> 02:35:45,420
think all black people were
abolitionists during that era,

2580
02:35:45,810 --> 02:35:48,960
which seemed like the right way
to lead to the noteworthy ones.

2581
02:35:49,350 --> 02:35:53,070
I want to be a slave and she was
a union spy, supposedly, I, you

2582
02:35:53,070 --> 02:35:56,430
know, I was I got my degree in
American history at University

2583
02:35:56,430 --> 02:36:00,060
of California. And I never heard
of Harriet Tubman because I

2584
02:36:00,060 --> 02:36:03,120
studied the Civil War to an
extreme. I didn't hear about her

2585
02:36:03,120 --> 02:36:07,680
until about, I'd say 10 or 15
years ago, when I was watching

2586
02:36:08,280 --> 02:36:10,380
some one of those man on the
street things that may have been

2587
02:36:10,380 --> 02:36:14,490
Jalen, or some say, Who's freed
the slaves. And nobody knew you,

2588
02:36:14,520 --> 02:36:18,450
could it No, it wasn't it was a
functional thing. But Lincoln

2589
02:36:18,480 --> 02:36:21,720
generally gets credited. So who
flipped for you to save and

2590
02:36:21,720 --> 02:36:24,330
nobody said Lincoln, they said
all kinds of things in this one

2591
02:36:24,330 --> 02:36:31,350
black girl sit said Harriet
Tubman freed the slaves. And

2592
02:36:31,350 --> 02:36:34,380
then I saw that I also started
seeing that meme floating

2593
02:36:34,380 --> 02:36:37,860
around, it was last showing up
Harriet Tubman and that she

2594
02:36:37,860 --> 02:36:42,060
freed the slaves. And now she's
gotten herself.

2595
02:36:42,240 --> 02:36:45,360
Well, we can't we can't have
anyone knowing that a Republican

2596
02:36:45,360 --> 02:36:46,320
freed the slaves.

2597
02:36:46,410 --> 02:36:51,540
Well, that's Lincoln, when
Harriet Tubman and as so now, if

2598
02:36:51,570 --> 02:36:56,580
Obama wants to play politics and
and say, okay, Hillary, I you

2599
02:36:56,580 --> 02:36:59,730
should win, even though he
should be supporting his vice

2600
02:36:59,730 --> 02:37:03,810
president. He won't do this and
he'll be out of office and

2601
02:37:03,810 --> 02:37:06,720
Hillary can use it as her
platform. I think she's gonna do

2602
02:37:06,900 --> 02:37:11,430
I think we should have just to
go with the whole meme. We

2603
02:37:11,430 --> 02:37:17,160
should have an $18 bill put
Tubman on that. Women deserve

2604
02:37:17,160 --> 02:37:19,890
less than you make less than
just sub subpar citizens in

2605
02:37:19,890 --> 02:37:26,370
America. 18.5. And then finally,
that good ol boy, Ricky Santorum

2606
02:37:26,370 --> 02:37:29,010
is back. Ricky Santos

2607
02:37:29,040 --> 02:37:32,220
we I don't know why we haven't
done this. This is bothersome.

2608
02:37:32,250 --> 02:37:35,190
I've been doing this. I've been
highlighting the potential. I

2609
02:37:35,220 --> 02:37:38,820
want to know what the scam is
how much money can you scam.

2610
02:37:39,330 --> 02:37:42,990
When you run for president.
There's no way Rick Santorum is

2611
02:37:42,990 --> 02:37:47,460
going to win anything. He's
annoying. He's too tall, looks

2612
02:37:47,460 --> 02:37:50,520
like a goofball. And he's very
just always, even though I've

2613
02:37:50,520 --> 02:37:53,910
seen him smile and have some
fun. He's serious. And in the

2614
02:37:53,910 --> 02:37:58,410
end a drip. Yeah, but he wants
him this President. Well, he's

2615
02:37:58,440 --> 02:37:59,520
uh, why is he running?

2616
02:37:59,700 --> 02:38:02,070
Well, if there's money to be
made, he's making it from the

2617
02:38:02,070 --> 02:38:05,700
military industrial complex. And
I'm very disappointed. He's a

2618
02:38:05,730 --> 02:38:09,390
he's a religious man. I remember
them talking about you praying

2619
02:38:09,390 --> 02:38:15,600
with his family what they should
do a big believer in, in the

2620
02:38:15,600 --> 02:38:19,920
church, and then I heard this
little riling speech he did. I

2621
02:38:19,920 --> 02:38:20,190
have been

2622
02:38:20,190 --> 02:38:22,950
one who has actually been
lectured a previous president,

2623
02:38:23,760 --> 02:38:26,940
on saying that this isn't a war
on terror, but it's a war

2624
02:38:27,330 --> 02:38:31,050
against radical Islamic terror
as a tactic Islam as an

2625
02:38:31,050 --> 02:38:33,990
ideology. And we need to be
honest with the American public

2626
02:38:34,050 --> 02:38:37,380
about who the nature of our
energy enemy really is. If these

2627
02:38:37,380 --> 02:38:40,740
folks want to bring back a
seventh century version of

2628
02:38:40,740 --> 02:38:45,120
Islam, then my recommendation
is, let's load our bombers up

2629
02:38:45,120 --> 02:38:47,100
and bomb them back to the
seventh century.

2630
02:38:48,120 --> 02:38:51,420
them by them and bomb them
again.

2631
02:38:54,660 --> 02:38:57,750
Is that's the old bombing and
back to the Stone Age meme.

2632
02:38:58,110 --> 02:39:01,050
Yeah, which we've been doing.
And if anyone hasn't noticed,

2633
02:39:01,050 --> 02:39:05,250
we've pointed out that Iraq has
been pretty much bombed back to

2634
02:39:05,250 --> 02:39:08,790
the Stone Age and if we're not
doing it, somebody else's. I

2635
02:39:08,790 --> 02:39:12,900
think it's a policy and he's
just expressing it. Looking at

2636
02:39:12,900 --> 02:39:14,760
it noticing that it's actually
going on

2637
02:39:14,789 --> 02:39:18,599
Yeah, but it's also it's just
it's not it's a no no who does

2638
02:39:18,599 --> 02:39:22,169
that? McCain does that also this
guy is not like McCain.

2639
02:39:23,460 --> 02:39:25,650
Disgusting. He's always kind of
in like

2640
02:39:25,710 --> 02:39:30,030
a lot of but kind of a crossover
memes colliding here with the F

2641
02:39:30,030 --> 02:39:36,840
Russia and LGBT TQQ AP Vienna.
This is something I follow.

2642
02:39:36,840 --> 02:39:39,540
Every year Vienna will be
hosting the Eurovision song

2643
02:39:39,540 --> 02:39:45,450
contest this year. And everybody
is ramping up the end to promote

2644
02:39:45,690 --> 02:39:50,490
the openness of Vienna. They
have installed a number of

2645
02:39:51,210 --> 02:39:58,140
crossing lights, which feature
gay pedestrians I'm sorry. Yes.

2646
02:39:58,530 --> 02:40:02,160
So do you have instead of a
little red man standing still,

2647
02:40:02,430 --> 02:40:06,240
there's two Redman one with his
arm around him. And then when

2648
02:40:06,270 --> 02:40:09,840
this is bull crap, beep it's BBC
and they're showing a picture of

2649
02:40:09,840 --> 02:40:15,300
it. Now this Vienna's do here,
officials, what are they talking

2650
02:40:15,300 --> 02:40:17,760
about? Officials said these
signals are a sign of Vienna's

2651
02:40:17,760 --> 02:40:21,960
open mindedness. Come on. We
know what this whole song

2652
02:40:21,990 --> 02:40:25,830
contest is about. Dude in the
dress lab one last time Come on,

2653
02:40:25,859 --> 02:40:28,709
this is Conchita Wurst.

2654
02:40:29,640 --> 02:40:33,780
The N A gay Vienna's gay
straight and lesbian crossing

2655
02:40:33,780 --> 02:40:39,510
lights show all walks of life
and this is in the Guardian so

2656
02:40:39,510 --> 02:40:41,580
they're going to have they're
going to vary these others

2657
02:40:41,580 --> 02:40:44,040
around with two women walking
across a little heart you know

2658
02:40:44,040 --> 02:40:50,280
the little hands with a heart in
between them is bull city

2659
02:40:50,280 --> 02:40:53,280
installs pedestrian seamless
showing same sex couples but

2660
02:40:53,280 --> 02:40:56,730
right wing politicians come out
in opposition. Well it sounds

2661
02:40:56,730 --> 02:40:59,250
like they want to just put a
little message to this the guys

2662
02:40:59,250 --> 02:41:02,910
it's funny. Well, the ASO those
are the go light is to gay

2663
02:41:02,910 --> 02:41:05,820
women. The stoplight is to gay
men.

2664
02:41:05,849 --> 02:41:08,699
I have one with two gay men with
low heart holding hands walking

2665
02:41:08,699 --> 02:41:14,099
as well. Okay. I just thought it
was interesting cultural Marxism

2666
02:41:14,099 --> 02:41:18,149
just getting everybody into a
very strange. Finally the

2667
02:41:18,149 --> 02:41:21,749
staying on the gay tip. ISIS
fighters have listened to the

2668
02:41:21,749 --> 02:41:25,199
show. I've told them they
should. You need to start

2669
02:41:25,199 --> 02:41:29,219
killing gays if you want to get
any traction in the US media.

2670
02:41:30,029 --> 02:41:34,049
And the latest example of ISIS
is barbarity towards gays

2671
02:41:34,289 --> 02:41:38,429
members are pretending to make
passes at suspected homosexuals

2672
02:41:38,429 --> 02:41:41,429
to draw them out, only to kill
them.

2673
02:41:47,580 --> 02:41:53,670
I'm sure that's happening. And
then the double whammy. Of

2674
02:41:53,670 --> 02:41:58,710
course we all know that.
Vladimir Putin hates gay hates

2675
02:41:58,710 --> 02:42:02,460
gays hates gays, all of Russia
hates gays can't do just can't

2676
02:42:02,460 --> 02:42:06,120
be gay and speak Rogen hates
gays, and Sweden has some

2677
02:42:06,120 --> 02:42:11,310
activist group, the more they
called the Swedish peace and

2678
02:42:11,310 --> 02:42:12,780
arbitration society.

2679
02:42:13,020 --> 02:42:17,100
The voices of Sweden are being
raised to rearm increase the

2680
02:42:17,100 --> 02:42:22,860
military budget with $1.9
billion. The Swedish peace and

2681
02:42:22,860 --> 02:42:26,670
arbitration society wants to
discuss a more effective way

2682
02:42:26,880 --> 02:42:31,320
than violence and aggression to
solve conflicts instead of

2683
02:42:31,650 --> 02:42:35,370
Hope just I should have set this
up better. This is based on the

2684
02:42:35,370 --> 02:42:38,880
multiple ports that were Russian
submarines off the Swedish

2685
02:42:38,880 --> 02:42:41,850
waters which net was never
proven, but was hyped quite a

2686
02:42:41,850 --> 02:42:46,170
bit in anticipation I guess if
more defense spending right this

2687
02:42:46,170 --> 02:42:49,470
was a month ago or something
like that. Yeah. And so this is

2688
02:42:49,470 --> 02:42:52,050
the the solution that has taken
place

2689
02:42:52,080 --> 02:42:57,210
angry threats. Any visitors will
now receive a warm welcome. The

2690
02:42:57,210 --> 02:43:01,110
Swedish peace and arbitration
society proudly presents the

2691
02:43:01,110 --> 02:43:02,100
singing sailor.

2692
02:43:02,790 --> 02:43:07,080
How did you see this thing the
singing sailor? It is a it is a

2693
02:43:07,140 --> 02:43:16,560
it is a watertight neon sign of
a depiction of a gay sailor via

2694
02:43:16,560 --> 02:43:20,520
moving his hips like the neon
flashes back and forth if the if

2695
02:43:20,520 --> 02:43:26,700
there's a little code goes
underwater. So I've got this

2696
02:43:26,700 --> 02:43:27,270
disco

2697
02:43:27,300 --> 02:43:31,440
using sealer sends out a Morse
code to any visitors nearby.

2698
02:43:33,330 --> 02:43:37,140
And the Morse code says this way
if you're gay

2699
02:43:46,740 --> 02:43:51,390
this this is their big, big way
to stop Vladimir Putin from

2700
02:43:51,390 --> 02:43:55,320
sending Russian submarines
they're going to distract them

2701
02:43:55,320 --> 02:43:57,210
with the underwater gay sailor

2702
02:43:59,070 --> 02:44:03,480
wow you got to see this thing
you got to see Yeah,

2703
02:44:03,480 --> 02:44:06,960
definitely. We'll go back and
look at that is outrageous.

2704
02:44:08,880 --> 02:44:14,070
Yeah, well, anything goes
despite our white paper that

2705
02:44:14,070 --> 02:44:16,260
Brian the gay Crusader put
together you can find that at

2706
02:44:16,260 --> 02:44:19,980
surfed calm. You know, the
ruling is not the way it has

2707
02:44:19,980 --> 02:44:25,110
been portrayed. But okay, that's
all fine. It's fine. Well, and

2708
02:44:25,110 --> 02:44:25,950
then I have

2709
02:44:26,519 --> 02:44:30,479
Kerry was in Russia when he met
with Putin. What that was really

2710
02:44:30,479 --> 02:44:31,019
explained it

2711
02:44:31,080 --> 02:44:33,060
I don't think he did he meet
with Putin. I thought Oh, yeah.

2712
02:44:33,060 --> 02:44:33,690
Foreign. Oh, yeah.

2713
02:44:34,349 --> 02:44:37,739
I met he was a meeting with the
Foreign Minister character who

2714
02:44:37,739 --> 02:44:40,949
was underplayed that meeting.
And then Putin he had a long

2715
02:44:40,949 --> 02:44:43,739
meeting with Putin he talked
about along me if I would just

2716
02:44:43,739 --> 02:44:47,129
prove it, carrying Russia play
that clip and we get that out of

2717
02:44:47,129 --> 02:44:47,519
the way.

2718
02:44:49,980 --> 02:44:52,830
Secretary of State John Kerry's
met with Russian counterpart

2719
02:44:52,830 --> 02:44:56,340
Sergei Lavrov and President
Vladimir Putin a trip to Moscow

2720
02:44:56,340 --> 02:44:59,490
it's the highest level Russia
visit by a US official since the

2721
02:44:59,490 --> 02:45:03,090
Ukraine crisis began over a year
ago. Kerry said the meeting was

2722
02:45:03,090 --> 02:45:04,470
Frank and constructive.

2723
02:45:05,160 --> 02:45:09,450
I'm grateful to President Bucha
for the significant amount of

2724
02:45:09,450 --> 02:45:13,530
time that he made available to
this discussion for his

2725
02:45:13,560 --> 02:45:14,610
directors.

2726
02:45:17,430 --> 02:45:23,190
That is just him. Yeah. Nothing
says nothing. Okay. There was

2727
02:45:23,190 --> 02:45:25,320
some meeting I did. He never
said what it was about.

2728
02:45:28,950 --> 02:45:31,770
That is interesting, and also
that it was so underplayed is

2729
02:45:31,770 --> 02:45:32,400
interesting. I

2730
02:45:32,400 --> 02:45:35,370
was told, yeah, only democracy
now really clean it up.

2731
02:45:35,910 --> 02:45:39,000
I love that you do that. I never
have to watch democracy now.

2732
02:45:39,000 --> 02:45:42,840
It's really fantastic. I mean,
that. That's how the show should

2733
02:45:42,840 --> 02:45:47,550
work. People do not have to look
at news. Just you know, if you

2734
02:45:47,550 --> 02:45:50,250
want to dive in deeper, that's
easy. But if you want some

2735
02:45:50,520 --> 02:45:54,450
headlines that make a
difference. I think we're pretty

2736
02:45:54,450 --> 02:46:01,470
good way to go. For instance,
this will be my throw away.

2737
02:46:01,470 --> 02:46:04,770
Okay, there's my throw away. Do
you recall we were talking about

2738
02:46:05,250 --> 02:46:09,390
the meme of people running up on
live news camera shoots and

2739
02:46:09,390 --> 02:46:12,210
yelling EFA right in the posi.

2740
02:46:13,980 --> 02:46:17,610
Yeah, that was a short lived
one. No, three victims were part

2741
02:46:17,610 --> 02:46:19,080
of a CSS font.

2742
02:46:20,340 --> 02:46:23,970
Oh my goodness. And it took
crews longer than anticipated to

2743
02:46:23,970 --> 02:46:27,030
find the crack in the 64 year
old pipeline. I'm standing here

2744
02:46:27,030 --> 02:46:29,460
with Fred who says he was
greatly impacted by the gushing

2745
02:46:29,460 --> 02:46:31,620
of oil. Can you tell us a little
more of what you saw?

2746
02:46:32,070 --> 02:46:35,970
Sure. Ken. I was sitting on my
front porch. Grabbed a beer and

2747
02:46:35,970 --> 02:46:36,660
fucker right now.

2748
02:46:38,340 --> 02:46:43,020
This has not stopped and CNN I
saw it this morning. This huge

2749
02:46:43,020 --> 02:46:47,940
piece about some reporter who
stood up to people propagating

2750
02:46:47,940 --> 02:46:51,120
this meme at this is more family
safe. I'm sorry, I should have a

2751
02:46:51,120 --> 02:46:53,970
pre announced that particular
cabal just trying to remind us

2752
02:46:54,120 --> 02:46:56,430
of what this meme is. And you
look at that on YouTube. It's

2753
02:46:56,460 --> 02:46:59,040
all over. It's being done
everywhere. Everywhere in the

2754
02:46:59,040 --> 02:47:00,510
world. This is being done.

2755
02:47:00,540 --> 02:47:02,520
It's crazy. It's not even funny.

2756
02:47:03,150 --> 02:47:06,630
Well, the people who don't think
it's funny or the reporters a

2757
02:47:06,630 --> 02:47:07,020
lot of

2758
02:47:07,470 --> 02:47:10,620
I would if I was a reporter
doing a live feed a stand up.

2759
02:47:10,740 --> 02:47:12,180
I'd be very annoyed by this.

2760
02:47:12,600 --> 02:47:14,910
Reporters are used to being
interrupted

2761
02:47:14,940 --> 02:47:16,080
as they did when we could.

2762
02:47:17,850 --> 02:47:21,390
But this is downright nasty.
It's happened to me about I

2763
02:47:21,390 --> 02:47:26,160
would say a dozen times a phrase
so dirty some reporters refer to

2764
02:47:26,160 --> 02:47:27,450
it by initials.

2765
02:47:27,510 --> 02:47:31,050
So the last time I had an effort
in the P as I

2766
02:47:31,050 --> 02:47:35,070
like F or in the P better
actually. That's fun glued.

2767
02:47:35,100 --> 02:47:38,880
Sometimes it even happens more
than once in the same live shot.

2768
02:47:39,180 --> 02:47:40,890
People having their their good
time.

2769
02:47:42,720 --> 02:47:45,270
Alright, that's very
unfortunate. Tanya, I'm sorry. I

2770
02:47:45,270 --> 02:47:46,170
had to put up with that.

2771
02:47:46,170 --> 02:47:49,320
Finally, there came a reporter
who wouldn't put up with it

2772
02:47:49,380 --> 02:47:52,830
outside of soccer game in
Toronto to one is better than

2773
02:47:54,270 --> 02:47:58,710
Hey, City News reporter Shauna
hunt turned from the offender to

2774
02:47:58,710 --> 02:48:00,450
other guys. She suspected

2775
02:48:00,480 --> 02:48:04,260
were you guys waiting around to
see if he could EFA and the P me

2776
02:48:04,260 --> 02:48:05,130
live on TV.

2777
02:48:06,480 --> 02:48:11,100
It's now a verb you can ever in
the peeny This is great. I love

2778
02:48:11,100 --> 02:48:12,450
her. This is going on TV.

2779
02:48:13,830 --> 02:48:18,120
You but yeah, it's a disgusting
thing to say. It's degrading to

2780
02:48:18,120 --> 02:48:21,420
women and you were gonna do it.
You would humiliate me on live

2781
02:48:21,420 --> 02:48:25,650
television on you. Will because
you know when I'm sick of this,

2782
02:48:25,650 --> 02:48:28,740
I get this every single day. 10
times a day.

2783
02:48:29,310 --> 02:48:32,730
Guys, I'm sick of it. And then
this guy made the mistake of

2784
02:48:32,730 --> 02:48:37,230
chiming in. Through it is he
even mentioned a vibrator.

2785
02:48:37,800 --> 02:48:42,600
There's not a vibrator here if
your mom My mom would die

2786
02:48:42,600 --> 02:48:45,900
laughing eventually. But you
know who didn't die laughing

2787
02:48:45,990 --> 02:48:50,280
that guy's employer Ontario's
electric provider I drew one

2788
02:48:50,280 --> 02:48:55,830
Fard, Shawn Simon's from his
$107,000 a year job, saying he

2789
02:48:55,830 --> 02:49:00,180
violated the company's code of
conduct. Ontario's premier

2790
02:49:00,180 --> 02:49:03,420
jumped into the fray, tweeting
whether or not it's caught on

2791
02:49:03,420 --> 02:49:06,690
film sexual harassment at work
is no joke.

2792
02:49:06,840 --> 02:49:10,050
So it's being combated under
sexual harassment.

2793
02:49:12,450 --> 02:49:15,750
Yeah, you know, I can see how
you can think it was sexual

2794
02:49:15,750 --> 02:49:20,010
harassment if it looked at just
technically, but as I would, I'm

2795
02:49:20,010 --> 02:49:23,610
guessing it's mostly women stand
ups that that end up with this.

2796
02:49:24,030 --> 02:49:27,090
Oh, not not only that, no. Yeah,
no, there's other words I say

2797
02:49:27,090 --> 02:49:32,460
mostly, but it's not really
sexual harassment. No, but

2798
02:49:32,460 --> 02:49:35,850
that's where they're taking it.
Well, that's one way to get rid

2799
02:49:35,850 --> 02:49:37,590
of it. I think it's

2800
02:49:37,590 --> 02:49:40,680
funny. I can't help myself. That
not not not really what's being

2801
02:49:40,680 --> 02:49:41,130
said, but

2802
02:49:41,130 --> 02:49:42,960
Well, you probably would have
thought it was funny without the

2803
02:49:42,960 --> 02:49:44,400
booya guys that used to

2804
02:49:44,610 --> 02:49:48,180
same thing, Bobby bababooey
bababooey That's what I wish

2805
02:49:48,180 --> 02:49:50,640
people ugly. I wish they would
say EFA right in the no agenda.

2806
02:49:50,640 --> 02:49:52,950
show.com something like this.
Change it up a bit.

2807
02:49:53,430 --> 02:49:56,550
Just no agenda show.com Would be
great or in the morning

2808
02:49:56,550 --> 02:49:59,160
in the morning because even that
would work. Amen. Fist bump.

2809
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:00,810
Amen fist bump can

2810
02:50:00,810 --> 02:50:05,550
even take some credit for that.
final final clip general

2811
02:50:05,550 --> 02:50:10,350
hurtling retired, said
something. And of course these

2812
02:50:10,350 --> 02:50:13,080
guys are all what? There was a
name for them. It was

2813
02:50:15,210 --> 02:50:18,360
pensionnat us. Oh man, I forgot
what it was guys who are on

2814
02:50:18,360 --> 02:50:22,410
pension for who retired from the
military or intelligence and

2815
02:50:22,410 --> 02:50:26,370
they except they're still on the
payroll, ah, invention, nice

2816
02:50:26,370 --> 02:50:29,730
this pension, something like
that pension if they like that

2817
02:50:29,730 --> 02:50:33,360
the best pension nice does.
Exactly. So he's one of them.

2818
02:50:33,810 --> 02:50:36,510
And he just said something
pretty interesting in this

2819
02:50:36,510 --> 02:50:38,220
little CNN clip, the Federal
Court

2820
02:50:38,220 --> 02:50:42,390
just ruled that the way the NSA
collects and stores certain data

2821
02:50:42,420 --> 02:50:46,050
is illegal. So what is the
government to do to combat this

2822
02:50:46,050 --> 02:50:50,160
growing threat of what is social
media inspired terrorism in many

2823
02:50:50,160 --> 02:50:51,090
ways here at home

2824
02:50:51,150 --> 02:50:53,430
social media inspired terrorism?

2825
02:50:53,550 --> 02:50:56,160
Well, when you take a look at
the decentralized kind of

2826
02:50:56,160 --> 02:50:59,220
activities that are going on in
this organization, there's very

2827
02:50:59,220 --> 02:51:02,220
little control over these
individuals. I think the

2828
02:51:02,220 --> 02:51:06,300
government is going to have to
have some renewed renewed looks

2829
02:51:06,420 --> 02:51:10,140
at things like Posse Comitatus
the Patriot Act,

2830
02:51:10,710 --> 02:51:15,030
Titus as like a disease I got
counted.

2831
02:51:15,960 --> 02:51:20,370
i Oh my God come and Titus on my
posse. This is not right. He

2832
02:51:20,370 --> 02:51:22,860
meant posse commentaar this but
for him to say that

2833
02:51:22,860 --> 02:51:27,990
is pretty big. I guess

2834
02:51:28,080 --> 02:51:31,920
if you live in Texas, it is
because you know, Jade Helm 15.

2835
02:51:32,040 --> 02:51:32,940
Need I say more.

2836
02:51:34,470 --> 02:51:36,780
All right. Well, I got one thing
just for make sure that we did

2837
02:51:36,780 --> 02:51:38,820
people know that we're on
following it, which is the

2838
02:51:38,820 --> 02:51:43,380
Madison Wisconsin shooting. Some
black guy in some situation,

2839
02:51:43,380 --> 02:51:45,720
this kind of a background on it.
Just No, I don't really have

2840
02:51:45,720 --> 02:51:48,030
anything to say about it. But it
looks to me they're going to try

2841
02:51:48,030 --> 02:51:53,490
to keep this stirring up the
race. Race issues as much as

2842
02:51:53,490 --> 02:51:54,030
they can.

2843
02:51:54,060 --> 02:51:56,010
And that is sorry, going

2844
02:51:56,160 --> 02:51:59,460
in Wisconsin police officer will
not face criminal charges for

2845
02:51:59,460 --> 02:52:02,700
fatally shooting an unarmed
African American teenager, Tony

2846
02:52:02,700 --> 02:52:06,420
Robinson was shot dead in March
after officer Matt Kenny forced

2847
02:52:06,420 --> 02:52:10,110
his way into an apartment
following a disturbance. Kenny

2848
02:52:10,110 --> 02:52:14,250
says Robinson attacked him upon
his entry. On Tuesday, the Dane

2849
02:52:14,250 --> 02:52:17,160
County District Attorney said an
investigation found Kenny was

2850
02:52:17,160 --> 02:52:20,700
lawful and firing the fatal
shots. Robinson's family members

2851
02:52:20,700 --> 02:52:23,820
say they've been denied justice.
This is Robinson's grandmother,

2852
02:52:23,820 --> 02:52:24,870
Sharon Irwin.

2853
02:52:25,529 --> 02:52:29,579
I will miss him the rest of my
life when you go home. And you

2854
02:52:29,579 --> 02:52:36,179
don't deal with this anymore.
This is a forever thing. And I

2855
02:52:36,779 --> 02:52:41,909
just wanted to say this is
politics and not justice.

2856
02:52:42,900 --> 02:52:44,580
Why is this not getting a lot of
traction?

2857
02:52:45,720 --> 02:52:48,090
Because I don't think anyone's
burned a building down yet.

2858
02:52:49,110 --> 02:52:54,090
Okay. I think that it could get
traction. It could. I'm not sure

2859
02:52:54,090 --> 02:52:56,490
that it will. And I think that
the reason I think it could is

2860
02:52:56,490 --> 02:52:59,190
because it involves Scott
Walker.

2861
02:52:59,760 --> 02:53:01,560
Ah, yes, the dangerous guy,

2862
02:53:01,890 --> 02:53:04,920
the dangerous guy. So you want
to do something in his state,

2863
02:53:04,920 --> 02:53:11,310
which is Wisconsin to get to
embarrass him and get him to not

2864
02:53:11,310 --> 02:53:16,170
run for president. Okay, which
is that work? You should run

2865
02:53:16,170 --> 02:53:20,580
until 2020. So that's fine with
me. Last there was the meeting

2866
02:53:20,580 --> 02:53:24,000
that Obama called a summit to
discuss with all the Arab

2867
02:53:24,000 --> 02:53:30,660
leaders to deal with this
Iranian agreement and all of

2868
02:53:30,660 --> 02:53:35,490
them except two guys had NAT NAT
coming in to kind of snubbed him

2869
02:53:35,580 --> 02:53:37,830
snubbed him and that's what
everyone calls it, but just the

2870
02:53:37,920 --> 02:53:41,340
clip outlines this is summit
snub with Shep Smith,

2871
02:53:41,400 --> 02:53:44,820
who lovely to hear Cheviot
invite the leaders of six

2872
02:53:44,820 --> 02:53:47,610
middies nations, to come speak
with the President and try to

2873
02:53:47,610 --> 02:53:49,620
work things out but most of
those leaders will not be

2874
02:53:49,620 --> 02:53:52,470
attending we now know. And let's
say it's a sign that those

2875
02:53:52,470 --> 02:53:55,410
countries are worried about US
nuclear talks with Iran are mad

2876
02:53:55,410 --> 02:53:58,500
at the United States. The White
House said today this is not a

2877
02:53:58,500 --> 02:54:04,650
snub that number present a snub
to the White House and if not,

2878
02:54:04,680 --> 02:54:05,490
why not?

2879
02:54:05,970 --> 02:54:08,640
I think I think we've identified
the word of the day in the

2880
02:54:08,640 --> 02:54:12,660
briefing today we that these are
individuals who could represent

2881
02:54:12,660 --> 02:54:15,300
the interests of their country
and implement any commitments

2882
02:54:15,300 --> 02:54:16,710
that they make in the context of
the meeting.

2883
02:54:17,310 --> 02:54:20,130
Well take a look at the wall
over here. Only the leaders of

2884
02:54:20,130 --> 02:54:23,370
Qatar and Kuwait have actually
confirmed that they're attending

2885
02:54:23,730 --> 02:54:27,540
vigils in Saudi Arabia say the
king is to focus on arranging a

2886
02:54:27,540 --> 02:54:31,410
ceasefire in Yemen. Then there's
Oman, the United Arab Emirates

2887
02:54:31,410 --> 02:54:33,510
and Bahrain, which have
announced their leaders will not

2888
02:54:33,510 --> 02:54:36,240
be attending without explaining
why a couple of them quote

2889
02:54:36,240 --> 02:54:39,390
didn't feel like it. And
analysts say the ruler of Oman

2890
02:54:39,390 --> 02:54:42,990
and the United Arab Emirates
have been ill. Yeah. Important

2891
02:54:42,990 --> 02:54:45,270
to point out here. Those nations
are still sending other

2892
02:54:45,270 --> 02:54:48,720
representatives to this summit,
but not the main guy. What do

2893
02:54:48,720 --> 02:54:49,140
you think

2894
02:54:50,850 --> 02:54:52,830
this is snub? Yeah, well, of
course,

2895
02:54:52,860 --> 02:54:54,750
they know what's going to
happen. They know that once we

2896
02:54:54,750 --> 02:54:57,450
have a deal with Iran, and
they're all going to be under

2897
02:54:57,480 --> 02:54:58,470
Iran's watch

2898
02:54:58,680 --> 02:55:02,370
that and there's going to be a
The Well, as we pointed out in

2899
02:55:02,370 --> 02:55:07,890
the show that the deep theorists
say that this is going to allow

2900
02:55:07,920 --> 02:55:10,650
Iran to get a bomb. So everyone
else has to get a bomb and the

2901
02:55:10,650 --> 02:55:13,680
whole place just blow itself up
and we get the money, the

2902
02:55:14,040 --> 02:55:17,250
benefit from the from the
armaments and

2903
02:55:17,250 --> 02:55:19,680
the mobilization, the
robotization stations are

2904
02:55:19,680 --> 02:55:25,050
winner, briefly a couple of big,
big pharma things I'm working

2905
02:55:25,050 --> 02:55:29,580
on. I find it interesting that
we have this story. I think

2906
02:55:29,580 --> 02:55:34,650
wired broke it. Cuba has a lung
cancer vaccine, and we want to

2907
02:55:34,650 --> 02:55:40,080
get it, but it's cancer a virus
now has it been deemed? And does

2908
02:55:40,080 --> 02:55:43,830
the cancer vaccine shoot cancer
into you so that you build up

2909
02:55:44,070 --> 02:55:46,830
your immune system? This is not
a vaccine, it may be

2910
02:55:46,830 --> 02:55:51,150
a shot. And maybe it's a drug of
some sort, obviously, and

2911
02:55:51,180 --> 02:55:53,310
what they say is it makes people
live, you know, at least four

2912
02:55:53,310 --> 02:55:56,700
months longer, something like
that, but it's not a vaccine is

2913
02:55:57,060 --> 02:55:59,400
otherwise you didn't take it
before you got lung cancer. Yes,

2914
02:55:59,400 --> 02:56:00,060
it's very

2915
02:56:00,060 --> 02:56:01,050
poor reporting.

2916
02:56:03,240 --> 02:56:06,690
Well, we have a group of people
like to global warmists, they

2917
02:56:06,690 --> 02:56:09,930
have no scientific background.
They don't know the basic

2918
02:56:09,930 --> 02:56:12,810
meaning terms. They use the word
vaccine because the drug

2919
02:56:12,810 --> 02:56:17,340
companies have decided to use it
to exploit the public. The

2920
02:56:17,340 --> 02:56:21,630
smoking vaccine is a perfect
example. Yes, remember that?

2921
02:56:21,630 --> 02:56:22,380
Yeah.

2922
02:56:23,730 --> 02:56:27,210
And the anti anti cocaine
addiction vaccine?

2923
02:56:27,420 --> 02:56:31,410
Yes. Not a vaccine. Poison.
Yeah, both

2924
02:56:32,250 --> 02:56:39,570
the cure and the, the reason and
then the company we need to look

2925
02:56:39,570 --> 02:56:47,040
out for or be have in our on our
radar Theranos, t h e r a n o s,

2926
02:56:48,060 --> 02:56:54,660
they have this lab test, where
all it takes is a home kit,

2927
02:56:54,690 --> 02:56:57,720
little finger prick. That's all
no more giving a vials of blood.

2928
02:56:57,990 --> 02:57:00,870
And then they can scan that for
which is all secret technology.

2929
02:57:00,870 --> 02:57:04,800
Of course, they can scan that
for any number of diseases. And

2930
02:57:04,800 --> 02:57:08,340
the reason why it caught my eye
is their board includes a Henry

2931
02:57:08,340 --> 02:57:13,200
Kissinger. So that would be
whenever we see Kissinger on a

2932
02:57:13,200 --> 02:57:16,800
company's board, you know that
you got to pay attention to it.

2933
02:57:17,850 --> 02:57:22,500
It's probably some sort of
there's probably some sort of

2934
02:57:22,560 --> 02:57:23,640
poisoning involved.

2935
02:57:24,420 --> 02:57:26,310
Probably not John. Yeah. Well,
he

2936
02:57:26,310 --> 02:57:29,400
likes to release a bit. He's all
in on the reducing the world's

2937
02:57:29,400 --> 02:57:36,240
population. Wow, okay. I'm done.
Okay. I mean, you poopoo the

2938
02:57:37,410 --> 02:57:45,630
Okay. And following in the ICD
10 codes, there is a bill. I

2939
02:57:45,630 --> 02:57:51,030
think coming to the floor, HR
2126, short title, cutting

2940
02:57:51,030 --> 02:57:58,800
costly codes act of 2015 saying
we don't want these codes, it

2941
02:57:58,800 --> 02:58:01,650
has to be done by October 15th.
We do not want these codes to be

2942
02:58:01,650 --> 02:58:06,510
implemented. It will kill
smaller healthcare providers.

2943
02:58:06,750 --> 02:58:10,380
And so that bill is coming to
the floor but of course it calls

2944
02:58:10,380 --> 02:58:15,090
for a study and eventually it'll
it'll be pushed through. Yeah,

2945
02:58:15,330 --> 02:58:18,780
let me see who introduced this
Mr. Poll of Texas

2946
02:58:22,920 --> 02:58:26,040
I'm seeing a lot of more stuff
they had I didn't take any clips

2947
02:58:26,040 --> 02:58:29,010
of it. But Tom Cotton seems to
be in the forefront of a lot of

2948
02:58:29,070 --> 02:58:32,730
other news stories now they're
really setting this guy up. And

2949
02:58:32,730 --> 02:58:34,620
I think what they're trying to
do is set him up to run for

2950
02:58:34,620 --> 02:58:37,440
might be the vice president
candidate, and then they can out

2951
02:58:37,440 --> 02:58:43,620
him as gay, as gay. And then
they can use the hypocrites.

2952
02:58:44,010 --> 02:58:48,060
Republicans are hypocrites. To
good argument,

2953
02:58:48,510 --> 02:58:52,980
totally. Event something very
important. I will hit the jingle

2954
02:58:52,980 --> 02:58:56,970
for this. Vaughn show Schmied
phone.

2955
02:58:59,340 --> 02:59:03,390
I think we're in big in big
trouble, John with with the web,

2956
02:59:03,990 --> 02:59:09,960
as the Mozilla Foundation, and
you will recall that the was the

2957
02:59:09,960 --> 02:59:14,370
founder, the CEO who got thrown
out because he supported

2958
02:59:16,830 --> 02:59:20,280
political campaign against gay
marriage that he was squeezed

2959
02:59:20,280 --> 02:59:21,600
out. It was pushed out.

2960
02:59:21,720 --> 02:59:24,930
Yeah, yeah. So thinking about
gays in this guy.

2961
02:59:25,289 --> 02:59:27,689
Yeah. So something's happened in
there. That was

2962
02:59:27,690 --> 02:59:30,480
minor too. I don't even think it
was really. There was just

2963
02:59:30,480 --> 02:59:31,080
something

2964
02:59:31,110 --> 02:59:34,830
well, it wasn't recovered it and
he was pushed out. So there's

2965
02:59:34,860 --> 02:59:38,970
there's a he was pushed out the
new guy in town, but here's what

2966
02:59:39,360 --> 02:59:43,230
would the Mozilla Foundation
announced? They are going to

2967
02:59:43,230 --> 02:59:53,160
deprecate HTTP and will enforce
HTTP s. Which, on Facebook, it

2968
02:59:53,160 --> 02:59:57,750
sounds like oh, this is a good
idea because the Firefox browser

2969
02:59:57,750 --> 03:00:01,290
in the future will only support
quote unquote, secure

2970
03:00:01,290 --> 03:00:04,680
connections. And the way a
secure connection is established

2971
03:00:04,680 --> 03:00:09,480
with a web server is through a
certificate that the web server

2972
03:00:09,480 --> 03:00:14,070
holds. And that certificate is
managed by a CA a certificate

2973
03:00:14,100 --> 03:00:17,790
authority. So that you know,
when you hit this website, it is

2974
03:00:17,850 --> 03:00:22,560
actually the website that they
say it is. The problem is you

2975
03:00:22,590 --> 03:00:27,840
create this single point of
entry for everybody. Now, with

2976
03:00:27,840 --> 03:00:30,090
actually it gets much easier
because then you're completely

2977
03:00:30,090 --> 03:00:34,530
trackable through this, through
this secure pipe. If the

2978
03:00:34,560 --> 03:00:37,770
certificate the certificate
authorities are compromised

2979
03:00:38,310 --> 03:00:41,520
enough, quite enough examples of
that, certainly with that

2980
03:00:41,520 --> 03:00:47,370
company in the Netherlands, but
the foundation is going to work

2981
03:00:47,370 --> 03:00:52,020
with a number of other sponsors
on Let's Encrypt, where they

2982
03:00:52,020 --> 03:00:55,650
will become a certificate
authority for free. So I think

2983
03:00:55,650 --> 03:00:58,380
the way it works is you're going
to be able to get your CA, which

2984
03:00:58,500 --> 03:01:01,110
is like it's probably a couple
100 bucks a year if you want to

2985
03:01:01,140 --> 03:01:04,830
have your own certificate on
your own web server. And now

2986
03:01:04,830 --> 03:01:07,830
they are saying, oh, you know
what, no problem, we will, we'll

2987
03:01:07,890 --> 03:01:10,860
provide them for free, we'll be
the certificate authority.

2988
03:01:11,280 --> 03:01:13,860
And this even necessary, this is
bull

2989
03:01:13,860 --> 03:01:17,040
crap, not only unnecessary, it's
incredibly stupid.

2990
03:01:17,460 --> 03:01:19,620
And it's dumb. It's dumb.

2991
03:01:20,370 --> 03:01:23,970
And also, does that mean that
Internet of Things, oh, I have

2992
03:01:23,970 --> 03:01:27,630
all kinds of devices that don't
have HTTPS, you know, my, my

2993
03:01:27,630 --> 03:01:30,540
light system does it that's not
secure, necessarily. So

2994
03:01:30,570 --> 03:01:32,430
everything has to be changed.
And what they're saying is,

2995
03:01:32,430 --> 03:01:35,370
yeah, it will change eventually.
But you know, they're not

2996
03:01:35,370 --> 03:01:37,680
putting a timeline on it.
They're saying, Oh, could be

2997
03:01:37,680 --> 03:01:41,100
weeks could be months, you know,
we'll see how we do. But but

2998
03:01:41,100 --> 03:01:44,580
this is we need a new browser
company. We need a new browser

2999
03:01:44,670 --> 03:01:48,390
that doesn't do these things.
This is this is one of the

3000
03:01:48,870 --> 03:01:52,620
this is a bad thought. So the
guy who was in April of last

3001
03:01:52,620 --> 03:01:57,960
year, he apparently said didn't
like the idea of gay marriage.

3002
03:01:57,960 --> 03:01:59,280
And that was that he had

3003
03:01:59,280 --> 03:02:04,260
supported some anti gay marriage
bill or something I don't

3004
03:02:04,500 --> 03:02:06,690
give money or something. It's
hard to see there's all these

3005
03:02:06,690 --> 03:02:09,690
articles but there's none of
them are you know, so on the

3006
03:02:09,690 --> 03:02:13,140
board of let's say state has the
right to fight gay rights is

3007
03:02:13,140 --> 03:02:15,270
from The Guardian. They get the
whole thing on against against

3008
03:02:15,270 --> 03:02:15,960
gays.

3009
03:02:15,990 --> 03:02:21,120
Yeah, this is the so the let's
encrypt.org is part of the

3010
03:02:21,150 --> 03:02:26,580
Internet Security Research
Group, a section 501 C three who

3011
03:02:26,580 --> 03:02:29,100
have I don't know how long
they've been in business, but

3012
03:02:29,100 --> 03:02:32,580
they have $0 reported they
haven't provided zero

3013
03:02:32,580 --> 03:02:36,390
information to anyone. So maybe
it's just too new. Maybe they I

3014
03:02:36,390 --> 03:02:40,410
can't believe that they wouldn't
qualify for the amount we have

3015
03:02:40,410 --> 03:02:47,100
to report. A board members is RG
executive directors, Josh ass

3016
03:02:47,190 --> 03:02:51,180
from Mozilla. They have phone,
aka my Cisco, University of

3017
03:02:51,180 --> 03:02:57,060
Michigan, Mozilla Stanford Law,
core OS, and then EFF. So

3018
03:02:57,060 --> 03:03:03,030
they're all in on this. And I
understand that if you self sign

3019
03:03:03,030 --> 03:03:06,570
your certificate that right now
if you do that, then Firefox

3020
03:03:06,570 --> 03:03:10,860
give you a scary warning. And
you can continue if you want. My

3021
03:03:10,860 --> 03:03:13,440
understanding is it will just
not support it at all anymore.

3022
03:03:14,070 --> 03:03:17,640
If it's if you don't have an
officially approved

3023
03:03:18,930 --> 03:03:22,050
certificate from USCIS is not
gonna fly. Well,

3024
03:03:23,220 --> 03:03:25,200
what do you mean is that they're
doing it when it means not going

3025
03:03:25,200 --> 03:03:25,710
to fly is

3026
03:03:25,770 --> 03:03:31,020
not going to fly? What is it
doing it they say they're doing

3027
03:03:31,020 --> 03:03:33,420
it, they can't they're not going
to it's not going to work?

3028
03:03:33,630 --> 03:03:36,210
Because the vast majority of the
people that just use the

3029
03:03:36,210 --> 03:03:40,260
internet, or just you know, and
there's a lot of websites and

3030
03:03:40,620 --> 03:03:43,350
other sites that aren't going to
do this. And there's going to be

3031
03:03:43,350 --> 03:03:45,510
old ladies that are going to
click on some they're going to

3032
03:03:45,510 --> 03:03:47,700
get this warning. Oh, no, that's

3033
03:03:47,700 --> 03:03:51,150
what you have now but it'll be
you won't you won't work. You're

3034
03:03:51,330 --> 03:03:51,600
gonna get

3035
03:03:51,600 --> 03:03:55,170
customer service calls. Gonna be
inundated with his No, you can't

3036
03:03:55,170 --> 03:03:59,250
do that anymore. It's changed. I
don't get it. It worked

3037
03:03:59,250 --> 03:04:02,370
yesterday, know that? We've
changed it. We were gone to

3038
03:04:02,370 --> 03:04:09,900
HTTPS. HTTPS. What is that word
yesterday?

3039
03:04:11,040 --> 03:04:13,800
Were they gonna have a problem?
John, these old ladies you just

3040
03:04:13,800 --> 03:04:18,240
spoke up Mr. ageist. They're
only going to Facebook. Where

3041
03:04:18,240 --> 03:04:20,040
are they going to find a
problem? Nowhere,

3042
03:04:20,070 --> 03:04:22,860
you're going to click on one of
the links in Facebook, which

3043
03:04:22,860 --> 03:04:24,720
will be the guardian or the New
York Times.

3044
03:04:25,110 --> 03:04:28,770
Please don't just give up.
They'll say how working

3045
03:04:28,950 --> 03:04:34,020
Sean Can you help me? And that
not an ageist? I'm just doing

3046
03:04:34,020 --> 03:04:34,890
what they sound like.

3047
03:04:34,890 --> 03:04:37,530
And then the next thing she does
is she calls Leo Laporte, the

3048
03:04:37,530 --> 03:04:38,070
tech guy.

3049
03:04:40,620 --> 03:04:44,820
They'll solve it. has all the
answers. I enjoy that show.

3050
03:04:44,820 --> 03:04:45,000
There

3051
03:04:45,000 --> 03:04:48,990
you go. All right. All right.

3052
03:04:50,070 --> 03:04:55,200
Groovy everybody. We've covered
quite a lot of ground today.

3053
03:04:55,680 --> 03:05:00,360
Hopefully, we can stop with the
inflate gates and train

3054
03:05:00,360 --> 03:05:06,870
derailments get on some other
stuff. In the meantime, you and

3055
03:05:06,870 --> 03:05:09,540
I, John and all of our producers
out there and all the ships at

3056
03:05:09,540 --> 03:05:12,420
sea, and boots on the ground
will have their ears and eyes

3057
03:05:12,420 --> 03:05:16,650
open for anything that is being
overlooked. I appreciate you co

3058
03:05:16,650 --> 03:05:19,830
producing the show with us,
thanks to our execs, thanks to

3059
03:05:19,830 --> 03:05:25,680
all of our financial donors.
Because this product is made by

3060
03:05:25,680 --> 03:05:31,650
us in you for you, you are not
the product coming to you from a

3061
03:05:31,650 --> 03:05:35,490
very wet FEMA Region six here in
the capital of the drone star

3062
03:05:35,490 --> 03:05:38,460
states, Austin, Texas in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

3063
03:05:38,460 --> 03:05:38,730
curry,

3064
03:05:39,150 --> 03:05:45,060
and from the foraging forest of
Northern Northwest silicon

3065
03:05:45,060 --> 03:05:47,850
Northwest. I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back

3066
03:05:47,910 --> 03:05:51,120
on Sunday right here on no
agenda

3067
03:06:13,980 --> 03:06:17,520
I can follow the rules and we'll
have a good day

3068
03:06:28,710 --> 03:06:34,830
I'm a rule follower, right.
Adios MoPhO

3069
03:06:34,890 --> 03:06:35,640
the best.

3070
03:06:38,580 --> 03:06:44,280
A man to vorak.org/n A