Here's how I'd like to punish women first I'd like to punch
him in the gut. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Sunday, April 3 2016. time once again for your Gitmo nation
media assassination episode 813. This is no agenda. Yes. And this
time it really is sunday from the violet crown to the Big
Apple and broadcasting live from the capital. The drone star
stayed here and FEMA Region six in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry.
And from the 18th floor of some godforsaken part of the west
side of Manhattan looking at what appears to be construction.
I'm John C. Dvorak. Raglan, Buzzkill.
All right. Well, I in the morning to you, John, let
me that was that lag was me.
Yeah. Okay. It wasn't the Skype. It was all you? I believe. So.
Luckily, I'm just trying to adjust your sound on the fly. So
John, you're in Manhattan today on your mobile rig? Yes. Which
mobile rig which is always challenging with hotel Wi Fi. I
believe that's what you're on right now.
Yeah. Pretty good. Seems to be working.
Before we get underway. I just need to ask you a quick little
question that I saw the spreadsheet today. Is this
because you didn't get any checks in for the spreadsheet?
Right. There's I can't get checks because I'm not. It
wasn't.
Because I looked at the spread. I slept very little last night.
We have an hour earlier today. I was volunteering at the bandanna
ball last night for Ronald McDonald House. And when I saw
the spreadsheet, I was like, I almost I was like, I'm gonna go
back to bed. And then I thought no way. This must be because
there's no checks. There's no checks. Okay, good. No, good.
Good. I feel much better now. So how you doing in my head?
We went to got in on Friday and we went to a
play. We use the whole divorce. Family, right?
Yeah, well, no, Eric's still in a shield is still in Washington
State with his family. Okay. But everybody else seems to be here.
He was invited though. Yeah, of course. Just checking.
would have been a huge hassle for him. Yeah. And besides that,
you know, we'd like to go to plays, okay. It doesn't matter.
He's not a big play guy play by plays or musicals?
Well, the American way, of course, is musicals. So we go to
musicals, we do go to plays once in a while. It's it's something
that kind of interesting, but generally speaking, the musical
and I have to say, if you want to hear the experience so far,
yeah, of course. Now, we always go because of the cost
prohibitive costs of going to musicals, we always get our
tickets on at Rush. What's rush rush is it will people should do
at the morning of the of the at eight o'clock play you find when
the Boxtop office opens on that day of the play, and then you
get in the line and you buy rush tickets and rush tickets are
just sold. Maybe I would say it cost to fill up the theatre.
Right. And you and typical play a Broadway musical currently is
around 250 bucks of seat
and is that's just the regular ticket price on the ticket
itself. Yeah, gotcha.
Rush tickets are like three.
Holy moly is is that what the StubHub guys go pick up to sell
online? Is that how that works?
I don't know what they do. But they here's the here's the
process, Mimi's actually resources even more than I have.
I always knew about their stuff and student rush. I mean that
stuff but Russian student Russia. So you want to get these
tickets and now there's certain shows you're just not going to
get there just sold out
actually the full I would guess Hamilton and sold
out you have to get you have to pay 300 bucks to go to Hamilton
at least. And you might have to blow somebody. But that's just
You just wait, who I was talking to somebody about to say what's
the rush to see any of these plays, if you know that if you
know how the theatre works. Not one of these plays is like
something so contemporary that you have to go see it today.
It's been out in the in the public, going from pre as
previews and tests test markets around the country, usually for
about two years. Generally speaking, a Broadway musical has
been in the wild for a couple of years before it gets to Broadway
right sometimes even go off Broadway, then Broadway. And so
it's not like this, you know, so So for example, we haven't seen
the Book of Mormon because we were here last time when it was
opening, right? It was like dude, just like family couldn't
get in, you'd have to pay 250 But we're not doing that.
There's too many good players you can get into for $30 which
is still high as far as I'm concerned. And so you just wait
so we'll go see Book of Mormon probably be able to get rush
tickets for by now. I'm hoping and the difference is, well, you
don't get to see the original actors. Oh, well, for a couple
of things to think about that. This is tips for you people that
want to come to New York and do some Broadway stuff. Don't
drink. Okay, can't see the original actress. First of all,
let me ask you, Adam, who played three starring roles in the Book
of Mormon?
I have no idea. And I saw Book of Mormon. There you go. I have
the playbill, even somewhere, but I have no idea. Now,
the point is, is that the the actors who come in to take over
the roles, you're still looking at a Broadway musical, it's
still on Broadway. And the actors who come in are never
slouches.
Right? Except for the Hamilton guy is a he's a superstar in his
own right.
Right. You will run into that once in a while. But but you
might find that the guy who replaces him, which will
probably happen after they use the only work good for six
months, maybe right? Might be just as good or better. And
future star you don't know. Sure, sure. So it's silly to
these arguments to having to rush to see these overpriced
play
wasn't Barbra Streisand's big breakthrough as an understudy
somewhere at
one point that would not surprise me. And
I think that's that maybe maybe I'm wrong, but I think that's
that was how she got your hurry is
probably true. Yeah. I think everybody was an understudy at
one point. Yeah. So that's what we do. So we'd get the cheap
tickets. And the cheap tickets 90% of the time are always damn
good tickets. It's not like, yeah, you're not front row seat.
And you're not sitting together, I presume? Yes. Oh, really?
Yeah, five, five in a row. Because because I have some
audio from the Dvorak family inside the theatre, and it
didn't sound like you were sitting together.
But pay that
off. Turn them off that they're too bright, turn them off. Turn
off the off the light.
That was a special audio isn't me I was.
Sorry. So so the sort of Broadway musical is an American
art form. And it is an art form it is. It's art. And so we the
first play we saw was because we just got here. So Nick was
trying to see some front of matinee today. But we got here
and we what was one of the movie disaster, which was kind of a
musical version of this Poseidon Adventure. Oh, yeah.
Yes. This has been a comedy long running show, though, isn't it?
That's No, no, it's
I think he's still in previews.
Oh, I thought it was okay. I'm mistaken. So it's The Poseidon
Adventure as uncommon entertaining,
but you can just see when you've seen enough of these you look at
you go this is entertaining. It's fun to everybody really
number of famous people up there. And but you can just see
it has no legs. I don't ever go on the road. And it's just a lot
one of those things that comes and goes but really
entertaining. I thought so it was very entertaining a lot of
songs. And so that's what we're doing good until Tuesday when I
have the dinner and we're already getting people jacked up
about coming over to the sparks bar to hang out. Yeah.
And what's the time eight o'clock? Is that what you want
it sparks Yeah.
Or go to dinner there. And then you know, we take we have a
dinner at six.
Yeah, go up to the divorce table and go and then walk away.
So Mimi says is gonna happen? They will now we're gonna come
and they're gonna pester you again. I think that's great.
Yeah,
we need to take pictures. Oh, good, man. I'm glad to end this
and your birthday is. Tuesday is Tuesday. Right? Okay, so you're
flying back on Tuesday? No, you had dinner. You had dinner on
Tuesday. I'm sorry. I got you. I got you dinner on Tuesday. Well,
good, man. I'm happy for you.
Well, thank you. Good. You're gonna have fun right now. So the
weather is very strange. It was hot and muggy yesterday and now
it's windy and cold. Passing New York bull crap
as it happens. Okay. Well, meanwhile, lots of things going
on. And I see let me start today with Euro land. France
Timmermans who I think is the AC the vice chairman of the he's a
he's what's his face is number one guy who's the president over
there. It's Ed Barone on eyebrow so anyway, younger and maybe
he's Yonkers guy. Yeah, I think you're right. He's Yonkers guy
so yeah, France Timmermans was Assistant Secretary of State to
the Netherlands. When I met him this was at the radio station
that eventually be I
got to the ground. Figuring out what we have to do this on the
run.
We do. I'm on the lam. I'm on the land. And I don't know if
you recall me telling you the story about him. But I said the
I said hey, no he during the interview I said so you're a
Bilderberger and says yeah, and and then you know kind of
laughing about that and saying okay, so you wanted the elites
who was changing us to the new world or and it was all funny,
but he's very smart guy. I, and he really travelled or used to
travel with the queen before we had the king and would go to all
these, what he called sales calls. And I like they said
that, but then after that interview, he pulled me aside,
he said, you know, you're really doing something important here,
just keep doing that, which to me at the time meant either he's
going to either he's telling me, Hey, you're so right, the New
World Order is coming and just sit back and watch the fireworks
cuz you can't stop it anyway. Or maybe he was saying, Help me,
help me, give me a new world order. Either way. He's
propagating his One World, one New World Order meme in the
European Parliament, as he did just the other day. And of
course, this comes down to migration, slash refugee crisis,
I'd say it's migration more than anything.
Diversity is now in some parts of Europe seen as a threat.
And he, of course, was one of the many people in all of the EU
government, who started with the idea of the multicultural
society, this is what it had to be. This started really 20 years
ago, aggressively when I saw it taking place. The UN I was in
the Netherlands, five years after kind of the start and the
you could see everything that is now coming to head you could see
these integration issues, because these countries in
Europe are just not integration or immigration countries. But
that's not acceptable. That's not what we're going to do
people we're back to the multicultural society, except
we're not going to call it that anymore.
Diversity is now in some parts of Europe seen as a threat.
Diversity comes with challenges. But diversity is humanity's
destiny. Oh, there is not going to be even in the remotest
places of this planet. A nation that will not see diversity in
its future. That's where humanity is heading. Like, you
better like enslave politicians trying to sell to their
electorates a society that is exclusively composed of people
from one culture, or trying to portray a future based on the
past that never existed. Oh, therefore that future will never
be
realised. So in the past, it was never just countries. Is that
was that what I understood him to say?
Well, there were five thumbs. Yeah, but that's the same thing.
He's not really
he said, while he says it was never we were never culturally
integrated. Is that true? Do you think we were just all one big
mass of people, that's bullcrap
that never existed, therefore, that future will never be Europe
will be diverse. Like all other parts of the world, we don't
like it. The only question is, how do we deal with that
diversity? My answer to that is by ensuring that our values
determine how we deal with diversity, and not giving up our
values to refuse diversity.
Oh, hold on, let me hear him. But you know, this guy have
died. I messed this up. I didn't have enough sleep. But I
probably need to slow him down to the scary voice on him. He
would be great with this little spiel. Know what I mean?
Yeah, see? And not Yeah,
great spiel.
Let me hear what he says here,
showing that our values determine how we deal with
diversity, and not giving up our values to refuse diversity,
not giving up our values to refuse diversity. What? I'm not
understanding it's a written statement. I mean, this, I don't
understand what he's saying here. I'm not sure. I'm gonna
back it up just a tad here,
that diversity? And my answer to that is by ensuring that our
values determine how we deal with diversity, and not giving
up our values to refuse diversity.
What the hell does that mean? I don't it doesn't mean anything.
But he's, he's an insane person, I think so
that will bring us down as a society. We don't get this
right. I truly believe Europe will not remain the Europe we've
built. Europe will not remain a place of peace and freedom for
very long.
Was that supposed to mean we're all gonna die? Okay, that's make
sense.
War, I think is what he's saying. I heard his war, but we
don't do it.
What does diversity have to do it? Like that's what he's trying
to. What he really means is the integration.
Yes, but you can't say multicultural. You can't say
integration. So it's using diversity because that really
works. I think I think that diversity really is it's a good
word. Oh, yes. It's just diverse. Admitted John, have you
not been trying since our last show? Once in a while just
trying out the new speak we learned. I caught I caught
myself using it from time this from
time to time, where like what I'm
like I have native incumbent citizen privilege. I tried that
one on a couple people. And you know that just all these all
these all these ways to describe people, you know, not old
people, but people of advanced age. I've been working on that.
And people look at me very oddly.
Oh, I called people non disabled. Yes.
Hey, you look like a fine non disabled guy, don't you? I got
so many emails from people are saying, Wow, this is good. We've
been trying it out. Fantastic.
Hey, by the way, just open the spreadsheet. The spreadsheet is
wrong. And like really, really wrong. Yeah, like really, really
wrong. Okay,
so what do we do with the spreadsheet?
I'm gonna send a note to Eric and maybe he can fix it or not
fix it. I don't know his but his way off. There's there's a bit I
mean, Astrid, Dame Astrid came in because I got the email.
Yeah. About nine o'clock. Yeah, but $250. And that's not even on
there. Yet. It's on mine. Oh, well, then I'm wrong about it
being wrong. But the numbers wrong. I know for a fact.
All right. Yeah, we will get to that in a moment. No worries.
Jim says I'm sorry. got distracted. No worries. It's
okay. It's okay. As you normally don't you're I know what your
range is for complaining about the spreadsheet. And when I saw
the number I said, Well, that's within his range. He's not going
to complain about it. No, no, but you complained about it. So
I had to go check in I see it's off by a lot.
fits on one screen today.
That will did these get those credits away? You have to do it
on a show or something? No good man is no good. Well, these
guys. Well, his whole diversity thing, I think is really just an
anti anti Western civilization thing to be honest about it
doesn't really make a lot of sense.
It's, to me it sounds more still sounds more like
New World Order control mechanism is something is wrong
with the I mean, I think diversity is fine to a point.
But not when you're just destroying the culture that you
had. Seems to be what's going on to me, right. That's what the
British are complaining about. What do you mean by that? You
know, I mean, if you listen to you, Kip, they're talking about
you know, the British British structure the British society is
not going to be British any
Oh, yeah. Of course. But that's that's exactly what they're
saying in the year. I mean, this is more fodder for a Brexit for
sure. saying no, you pretty much you can have your own identity.
This is the way that the way the world is going. And everybody
just has to live with it and shut up slave. That's how that's
just it done. And the Shut up slave thing is come really
coming to a head in the Netherlands right now. It's so
we the Ukraine EU ascension treaty is coming up will
actually be Oh, has been ratified by most of the most of
the EU countries. So that Ukraine, not quite sure exactly
the the parts of the deal, but it is a pathway into the into
the EU itself, although they're saying Well, that'll take a
while and but we have to have better trade agreements and the
Dutch people who are still reeling from the loss of several
100 of their citizens from well, they don't really know did
Russia shoot it down or not to apparently, in all the reporting
that we're seeing the Dutch government never even really
used or even possibly saw the radar images the US made
available. So a smaller kind of upstart party. Guys, I know the
kind of douchebags I think they did it kind of as a joke, but
not really, they started to referendum. And they legally got
the amount of signatures necessary for the referendum.
And now on the sixth of April, there will be a Dutch
referendum, which is an advisory referendum. This is this is what
I like, and the Dutch Oh, yes, this is so fantastic. We get to
determine the future we help. We're gonna help with democracy.
We don't want this ascension agreement. And we're going to
have a referendum This is really fantastic. But if you look at
it, the referendum is only an advice to the to the government,
they do not have to follow this advice. And now the thinking is
that they'll just say, Oh, that was great. Thanks for your
advice. We'll move on. But what is interesting in this, and I
have all the documents, the Ukrainian government was hacked
with some of their computers. And I have a full spectrum of
documents. Regarding the here it is Netherlands referendum media
campaigns. So the government of course, they want a yes vote.
And it's very simple. You if you look at the ballot, yes, no,
although it looks like we have some unique opportunity Before
this to go wrong, because you have to fill in the Red Square
completely as a circle inside the red square. And if you mark
anything outside of that, then it'll be invalid. It's like a
hanging chad thing. It's ridiculous. The pictures will be
in the show notes. So, so the Dutch government, of course,
they want to know they want to have a positive outcome of the
referendum. And they have put together a media campaign. And
so I have a couple of the couple of things that they will be
doing but also who is funding this and who is directly funding
this campaign, funding money into the Dutch government. So
this is the the media campaigns they're looking at. And this has
been ongoing. It's almost time for the referendum itself, but
this is now the first time the documents are coming up.
proposed idea. The core of the emotional campaign is designed
to resonate with the hearts and minds of the Dutch people
through familiar cultural images. One of them is Teile.
Ireland Spiegel, a folklore character popular in the
Netherlands, Belgium and Germany. Moreover, Richard
Strauss composed the tone poem to Odin speakers loose the
history here in 1894, and T 25, which illustrates the cultural
significance of the character. Today he serves as an
illustration of a hipster adventurous who could be played
both by adults and children. Thanks to his unique appeal to
all ages. The camp the campaign will focus on the musical
dedicated to tap out and see hope performed by Ukrainian
musical prodigies, a 10 year old Anastasia, but bytescout and
Romain SAS near chin, and the duo of young violinists. And
despite their young age, the performances will be performed
in Dutch to show their skills and how much we're alike. And
they really go deep into the into this about make the kids
you know, make them blonde, so they look like Dutch children,
really abusing children. Actually, the media campaign
contains the right photos of how this will work. It's very
typical of although you never see these documents, but what is
damning, is the 700,000 euros pay, and I have the meeting memo
the notes everything between marketers of the Prime Minister
of the United States and representatives of this person's
organisation, can you guess which organisation it is or who
the person is behind it? With the 700,000 euros to support the
Dutch government with their campaign? Soros? First guess
you're right. direct payment to the Dutch government. Why? Well,
to protect his staff, we've been through this.
Yeah, my No, I'm just just saying it gives you the target
about something.
Wow. I think Soros has lots of interests in Ukraine. Seems to
be
lots of people. I would be interested in you somewhat
behind a lot of this.
But he's behind tonnes of it. I would argue the whole my Don may
have been part of his doing. Yes, we've always said
Hagen's are working with the Soros is I don't think so. I
why not?
Why not? Because I've never seen that connection made. That would
be a bad connection to have in public. I'll tell you that.
Yeah, yeah. Glenn Beck could be all over it. Yeah.
Isn't that good? Not good. Anyway, so it'll be interesting
to see. And you know, the Dutch, usually when they feel screwed
over, they make a lot of noise. And then they kind of like, go
back and put their head in the sand. Sad to say.
All right. So we will keep an eye on that, obviously. So I did
a little editing since I had a little extra time on my hands. I
was I was kind of fascinated by what I've been able to do with
Hillary's Hillary talking. Okay. All right. Now, I want you to
play this clip. It's a little long, but I want to play so this
is Hillary plain. Okay.
impenetrable Encryption provides significant cyber security
advantages, but may also make it harder for law enforcement and
counterterrorism professionals to investigate plots and prevent
future attacks. ISIS knows this too. At the same time, there are
legitimate worries about privacy network security kill it. Yeah.
Okay.
All right now so I've decided to go with people. So I've now
you've seen my my
abilities. Yeah, yes. Yeah. Your Your skills are
this is this. Watch his face the nation they know John Deke
Dickerson Yes. Are Dickens Dickens isn't. This is Hillary
the exact same thing transmogrified into John
Dickinson.
impenetrable encryption. provides significant cyber
security advantages, but may also make it harder for law
enforcement and counterterrorism professionals to investigate
plots and prevent future attacks. ISIS knows this too. At
the same time, there are legitimate worries about
privacy, network security, and creating new vulnerabilities
that bad actors including terrorists can exploit
that works for me.
Yeah, if it's impressed with my own ability, they're very good.
Good.
What more what is it? How much did you slow her down for that?
That was that was a that was a that was a it was a tempo? No,
that was a pitch change. Saw Wasn't she wasn't slow down. Now
this one is a this one is you remember that stooge. It was on
60 minutes that we heard from
John, John Miller. He was an NSI. Miller did now he's with
John Miller.
Same exact deed.
impenetrable Encryption provides significant cybersecurity
advantages. It may also make it harder for law enforcement.
And it's good. I like okay. John Miller. Yes.
And you want me to continue?
I don't have any more. I was only two I got that worked.
What are you trying to say that she's a trainee? I mean, what
are you? What are you trying to say about me? I'm not quite he
does have,
it doesn't take much to make her sound like a man. Let's put it
that I noticed
something else about Hillary because I did a lot of editing
mice, actually the White House and everybody's been editing
these days. I'm gonna have a little package to share with you
later. I was on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow had an interview with
Hillary Clinton. And I saw that, did you notice any because you
had extreme close ups, which I like, I like seeing someone's
face for a long time filling the screen, because you get to
really see their visual cues. Did you notice anything when you
watch that interview?
No. Hillary Clinton, notice what you're what you're getting at
it. And notice that Hillary
Clinton's pupils are extremely dilated. Now, and I looked at
Rachel Maddow and her pupils were very small. She has Rachel
Maddow has beautiful brown eyes. I do want to add that there was
a lot of light. And I've been in studios and this is women
particularly are always disappointed by how their eyes
look on television. Unless you know, that's why you have a lot
of makeup on your eyelashes and everything to kind of detract
from the smaller pupil.
Yeah, you get a pinhole for a pupil because it's so bright in
there.
So I don't know what she's doing to have these dilated pupils
some thing but um, you know, I'm actually hurt now that I didn't
notice this well, and
I went and I saw I was searching around and Google search term
Hillary's dilated pupils. The no one has noticed this, but there
is a study that shows that people trust people much more by
a factor of three, if they have if their pupils are dilated.
Well, the reason for that is because I've no other studies
that indicate that if you're with someone that you you're
dating, that your pupils dilate, if you're attracted to the
person you're with, wow.
Well, that's even better than my theory. You're telling me
Hillary has the hots for Rachel.
That would indicate yes, yes.
Even under the bright lights,
that's why people do when you when you I think a secondary
that people you know, trust people would have dilated eyes
because the signalling would be you see somebody with dilated
eyes that means they're attracted to you, you would be
more trusting of somebody like that,
right? Well, Rachel had no vibe for because her pupils were
little pinholes
she doesn't like older women.
But you know, and I really focused on my rounded back and I
looked again and there strangely enough at a certain point, it
almost looked like the eyes were doing I don't I've never studied
someone like this. It's a first impression. It looked like the
eyes were being controlled by some other entity they are
telling a whole different story. Like it's a lizard there's a
lizard inside I can see it there's a lizard inside but but
your pupils I don't know there's there's something we used to use
something called Star drops I think back in the day there's I
don't think there's probably our legal you put them in your eye
like your pupils would would dilate for television, but it
didn't last long. And I'm pretty sure was not good for you
whatever that crap was sure it's not good. So maybe Hillary's
just on the Vyvanse or the Adderall or whatever and you
know board sounds like I'm not sure when and I just and people
like in the chat room were saying contact lenses now. Now I
know how to spot contact. These are not contact lenses. No, no
go look at it. Go look at the video. I have it in the show
notes by A coincidence. Anyway, so
I'm I don't know which of the SSRIs or anything that Hillary
be normally taking it. I think I know marijuana will dilate some
people's eyes but this definitely that which. Yeah, but
that comes with, right. I don't know about cocaine, whether
dilates eyes or not somebody might want to look it up.
I'm pretty sure it does.
Could be something that simple. But I think the idea that she's
got the hots for ratio, I
like that one better than anything.
It's a good. I mean,
I was just, and I'll say beautiful, her eyes, you know,
they're clear. But the pupils were Big. And you know, he was
listening to the words, I'm like, this woman is evil, but
then I'm looking at, oh, she looks kind of nice and
trustworthy. I felt it. And this is before I'd even searched for
the whole meaning Behind the dilated pupils.
Yeah. Well, that'll pay off for
hopefully. And I have, as I said, I'd probably do that after
we thank some people, I want to have a little package it put
together of Hillary and and Rachel, but first over to the
White House, who were doing their very own editing. And
since the government did it, I would say this is censorship.
But it was very, very disturbing. We had a number of
things happen in Washington DC that we had the Big nuclear
summit. And I'm sure everyone saw the the video of the
President and, you know, we had what's her name at the Torp.
Susan Rice and watermelon head carry, everyone's on one side.
And then on the other side, it was all the other people seemed
like we had. We had people from Japan from South Korea, and we
had President Francois Holanda and President Francois, alarmed
he speaker, the French, and everyone's listening in on. And
in hindsight, when you watch Obama's face, as you know, he
has a little earpiece in and looking at him intently
listening to the translation. And here's what he had one point
said. And this is only the track because I have the transcript.
And this is the official White House transcript, which is
always a bit hidden. There's never released paired with the
video. Francois long said in the translated version, but we're
also well aware of the roots of terrorism. Islamist terrorism is
in Syria and in Iraq. We therefore have to act both in
Syria and Iraq. And this is what we're doing within the framework
of the coalition. Well, that's what he said, What is wrong with
what he said? I don't know what. I'll read it again. But we're
also well aware of the roots of terrorism. Islamist terrorism is
in Syria and Iraq. What did he say wrong?
Islamist terrorism is in Syria and Iraq.
Yes. What did he say wrong? I don't know. Islam is terrorism.
You can't say Islamist terrorism. Why? Because that's
not what the President says. No one said no, no, this is what
the huge debate has been about.
Like this was alarmed, wasn't it? Yes.
sitting across from Obama can say
it is our president that never says it.
Let's listen to the video as posted on whitehouse.gov
When it comes to fighting against these terrorists, we're
also making sure that too between Europe and the United
States they can be a very high level coordination but we also
want it we're not the roots of terrorism in divorce
they cut it out and put a silence in and then just pick it
up are you kidding me? Sir? No, sir. You can hear it they
actually put silence in that didn't just edit it they put
silence in Hinson again, when it when not, oh, the risk of
terrorism. Click gone and then they come back. DeVore they took
it out. That is censorship. That's
that's a scandal. If that is censorship. I was think I think
you should give yourself a clip of the day.
I thank you, I think
holy mackerel, that's astonishing. It's an outrage.
It's an outrage. And what gall does it take to
do that and so poorly done that just like
why don't they just go
they probably were just cutting and pasting and quick time or
something. It was totally, totally wrong. One more time and
really listened to the to the silence that appears in Cisco,
believe it or not, the roots of terrorism in divorce law, They
go, and they miss that whole sentence again, the sentence,
but we're well aware of the roots of terrorism, Islamist
terrorist terrorism is in Syria and in Iraq. And then he says,
then we therefore have to act in both Syria and Iraq. And that is
what we're doing within the framework of the coalition. Wow.
Unbelievable. I mean, what what, how anal Are you? Because while
we don't want the press, I guess it's hard. Let's not have the
press pick up on it. That's a great sound, but we can't have
that. Oh, no, no, no. And I would say along with that,
the right wing radio talkers have always been bitching about
this this thing that the President vented Hannity on TV
does it to the President will not say as Lammas to terrorists,
correct? Correct. That's and and then you've never heard him say
that? He doesn't say it. I think it's because he's a Muslim.
I, I know your thoughts, John. Probably,
I go along with Daniel Pipes on this.
Now, to go along with this I picked up audio is not
fantastic. Because it was it was a weird location. It was kind of
impromptu. And this of course, is you know, where they were
they were there slack, you know, in, in shutting people up. This
was a, I think, was veterans or some guys were ROTC. This
question, in fact, was asked by an ROTC guy to the Defence
Secretary, Ashton Carter, I've never liked this guy. But I
don't like his background. I just don't like how he talks. He
seems like he's a total shill for the military industrial
complex. The end there was something about how he was
talking. Most of the I think you'll hear in the beginning,
the servicemen asks, What is mission accomplished in this?
When are we done? What is the what is a win? And his response
was Cavalier? I don't know, you tell him I may be just seeing
things that don't like the guy or hearing things in this case.
But it none of it sounded very pleasant.
For you. You mentioned how we're going to be curious about
whether Nigeria specific criteria that needs to be met
before you're satisfied.
So what are the specific criteria that needs to be met in
order to say mission accomplished?
It takes the following things First,
can you hear this at all genres is going to be too tough?
No, I can hear it. Okay.
So firstly, I. So he knows he has to come up with a story.
It takes the following things first and foremost, absolutely
necessary, but not sufficient to feed them into Syria, and Iraq.
This is interesting, because exactly what Holanda said, which
was also taken out of the video. We have first and foremost,
although not sufficient, we have to beat them in Syria in Iraq.
If this is true, why don't we just go in and really do it?
That's my question. Because we're not we're kind of
pussyfooting around we got guys from the Pentagon in that guy's
in the CIA. But it doesn't seem like we're actually doing that.
But I'm sorry.
We weren't we're not getting our thesis is there, we're not doing
it for good reason. We don't want to do it. We don't want to
do it
as we want. We want to fill up Europe with with nastiness.
Yeah, because they want the diversity. Here you go have some
diversity.
A number of things. But importantly, it means taking
away from the cities of Iraq and Syria and Mosul, in Iraq, and
thereby making it plain that there is not going to be a state
based upon the geology that is necessary. It's not going to be
sufficient. By the way that needs to be followed by to get
back to an earlier question. Governance terrorists defeated
we can we can enable defeat of terrorists, but somebody's got
to
do it. We also know second that ISIL has like a cancer has
metastasized
this one here he is with this cancer thing again. And and
here's what I don't understand. Somehow he has the idea we can
go in and we can just remove ISIL from Syria and Iraq. But
yet that's not enough because it's cancer. So it's gonna keep
popping up everywhere. And while we will be supporting
governments, it's the same fucking thing. Well, I'll be
supporting governments, you know, with military stuff we'll
still have our What is it the Delta Force or was that instant
kill you force I forget. I was ETF. PTF like, five, I forget
what the whole term was for. But we'll be sending guys into go
shoot these guys. They're no direct threat to the USA just
going to be killing people all day, you can't stop the cancer,
there's no cure for cancer
here, and then we're going to need to defeat in those places.
Well, each of them has a somewhat different context and a
different history. We get back to the earlier question, but we
never after that, do it. And then finally, we have to protect
our country, both from the possibility of attacks that are
directed outside or simply inspired. Somebody lost their
way the internet gets. That happens.
So here's the secretary of defence saying but what's their
way? Yes, we also have to go after people. Does the military
go after people in America who have lost their way of not
confused and inspired by ISIS lost their way lost their way?
And why is this the secretary of defence saying we have to? Is
that his job? Do we put military on the streets? No.
We protect ourselves against conflict. In addition to
everything else we need to do
that sounds like Trump, we're gonna do all that I promise you.
We're gonna do all that. Don't worry. We
complain about what is this guy talking about this generality?
bullcrap.
In addition to everything else we need to do to protect
ourselves. Yeah,
for that good.
Well, what's worse is he's saying we're going to do all
that now. We still do not have the official strategy from our
president. What we are really going to do this is overdue
anything. Well, I think yes. And thank you. That's, that is the
to my point, to your point, that there's an interview. I think
it's tonight was Robert Gates, former Defence Secretary, the
guy who was no way Robert Gates, FBI. And then it was Robert
Baramulla. Robert Gates was Defence Secretary. Right, right.
And he there's an interview coming up, or I don't know if I
missed it or not, but just listen to the preview, about how
the military industrial complex inside the Pentagon itself
really thinks about the White House and the presidency.
And tonight, Fox News takes an in depth look at the fight
against terrorism, what the White House is doing and could
be doing better former secretary of defence Robert Gates talks
about his reaction during the crisis in Libya. I don't want
any military plans or options going to the White House that I
haven't seen.
I mean, you read it a little bit more bluntly. He say don't give
the White House staff too much information on the military
options. They don't understand it pretty much is a little
blocked. Wow.
Those dummies don't get it
and he just laughs He laughs at him said yeah, we just we
wouldn't tell them too much about what we're doing What a
douche. Oh.
Well, that's the way it works. That just just how much money
we're spending tell them we can audit to the Pentagon. It's not
possible to busy. When did all the systems none of them are
compatible or too busy
man are just too busy.
snickering the American public will waste
their I concur. I concur. Hey, did you know let me ask you
differently. But looking at the April Fool's jokes that were put
I didn't look at him. No, I didn't look at him either. But
if April Fool's has
been ruined by the internet, the April Fool's jokes don't make
sense anymore because they can crop up at any time other than
April 1. Well, it's even worse than this. I stopped doing I
used to be one of the great work you did great April Fool's games
in the April Fool's games Hall of Fame.
Oh, is that we're in what's what state is that folks? Okay,
look it up hoax Hall of Fame you'll find one of my April
Fool's gag so way I've had a number of good ones. But I won't
do them anymore because there's it's senseless. The internet has
ruined April Fool's. And then Google came along and made it
worse with their lame incessant
April for this is what I wanted to talk to you about.
That thing you're talking about is just stupid. It's not
just that one. Open Table Open Table. Do I've been using for
years? Send me an email. We're announcing lickable menu so you
can taste what you're going to eat. This is so in assaulting
and and you put that next to
that hold on a second April Fool's gags to have to have some
foot in reality and it has to be a kind of a hoax of some sort
that could actually be believed and then it has to be given away
that is an April Fool's gag somehow in the gag. That's the
rules of ICM I don't care what anyone else thinks. Now that gag
for one thing, open tables online. Yeah. So how is it even
possible to give you a menu that you could lick and, and taste of
food? You're going to use that nonsense, Joe? Yes. Yes. This is
my immediate violation of the April Fool's rules.
Yes. What I'm saying is we have lost our humour as a country we
used to be so phenomenal with fabulous jokes we were the
humour capital of the universe. We have relegated into dumb ass
Silicon Valley Dockers and khaki aihole jokes. And it goes even
further. Did you see Elon Musk announced his new battery car.
Oh my God, you have to see this presentation. The X? Yeah. No,
the E the cheap one the $35,000 car.
It's what is
it? It doesn't it doesn't exist yet. Whatever it's called. Yeah,
that one and the three things yes the third model your model
three model three Yeah,
that's why the so you can have the word sex S E X. The three of
course is the E and mass or Yeah, as his cars. Ha ha ha.
But the the listening to the people in the audience and and
he's obviously doing a form of a Steve Jobs. But you know what?
This is this is where people really need to appreciate what
Steve Jobs did. This man was an entertainer. And the reason why
Pixar is incredibly successful. This is his vision. His his DNA
is in this company. He understood entertainment and
real stage presentation. Everything else is a sad, sad,
sick facsimile. And just pathetic and this is what's
getting reported over and over and the stupid April Fool's
joke. We're losing our humour.
Will the April Fool's jokes I have not seen one that was worth
even that's why I didn't pay any attention to because last year I
decided that was all over for April Fool's jokes. They're not
funny. They're they're out of time because because of the
internet you don't know when the thing but but the people
actually have become a hoax. See
people actually having meetings? Oh, I got a great idea. Let's do
we'll tell them we have tasteful menus when you lick them. Just
lick them on your phone. I think it was even that bad. lick them
on your phone. And then Austin, the Chronicle wishes and here's
our weekly it's a weekly hippie is your weekly hippie journal
front page, our newest resident and there's a picture of Obama.
Yes, he's after southwest. He's so happy. He and Michelle will
be moving to Austin.
Hilarious.
Oh, dumb. is disturbing and disappointing. by all measures.
disturbing. Very, very disappointing. I have a well, I
have before we go into how's the spreadsheet doing? Did you get
anything we need to fix it? So we're just gonna do the
spreadsheet hear
back from Eric. He goes as soon as he does the spreadsheet he
sub listening to the show?
I gotcha. Well, then we'll just we'll just do the spreadsheet as
it is today. It's fine. It's
the way it is. It's just sad. You're right, then we'll fix
anything not that much better than the way it is. But it's you
know, it's the others we get one executive producer. And then
we'll hear from the people you didn't mention.
Let me do one more a little bit. And then we'll go thank you.
That's a short list today.
So one person.
But I think I've caught a new Black Lives Matter racial meme
that needs to be we need to keep our eye on it because it is
false. But it is also as it really is a horrible thing to
do. And of course, as we come from only one guy who's the guy
that makes all the crap when it comes to race, the United States
of America. That man is of course Al Sharpton. And he was
on the morning drills with MSNBC. Then they were talking to
Ben, of course, there's some other guests whose name I didn't
catch. But at the end of this, the guest says something and
Sharpton agrees vehemently
and has made that statement on a lot of things. Good policy
issue. She is a step back from Barack Obama. She was always the
most aggressive on military response and every Cabinet
meeting, she supported intervention and nation changing
in Iraq. She supported the same in Syria. She supported the
tripling of troops in Afghanistan. She was always the
most aggressive she was she was full are more keen to help Wall
Street. Fan just commercial that's what he ought to be
saying.
He is saying the Clinton campaign is saying that his tone
is harsh.
Well, and the people who die in those coffins by the way have a
racial makeup that is absolutely Brown. blacker than the rest of
the country.
There's no doubt about, okay. What the guest said, is of the
US military that is being sent into the Middle East and doing
all of this nation building and regime change and propagating
democracy, that of those military men and women a
disproportionate amount who die are brown or black. I did
something they said yes, I did something really crazy. I went
looked it up. A little fact check. Oh, oh, dry. Oh, the
Congressional Research Service released the report January
2015. That's the most recent one I could find and it is American
war and military operations, casualties lists and statistics.
And besides calling out these douchebags as liars and hate
hateful race insiders, I've learned a lot of interesting
things about the body about all the way this this starts with
the Revolutionary War. And you can see exactly how many people
died during the revolution, the Revolutionary War of service
personnel, of course, and the Civil War and the end the war of
1812. And it's really quite, quite amazing. If there's
anything you'd like that link I bet it's a PDF so for instance,
in the Revolutionary War, I mean, how many military
personnel do you think died in the Revolutionary War? Just as a
we don't need we don't really know how many were serving but
we do know how many total deaths there were.
I don't have no idea 4435 That sounds Yeah, I was gonna guess
in the 1000s Right. The Civil War
military personnel we're talking 364,511 So yes, there's a lot
and then you got World War 116 World War Two was was really the
doozy more than the Civil War by the way because I often hear Oh
my
My what you saying right now is exactly what I've heard civil
what
now this is service personnel so you know civilians and all that
that's the one that's out of the realm what we're talking about
civil wars the 364,000 World War Two 405,399 then the numbers
really drop quite dramatically Persian Gulf War 383
Then we go this Vietnam War was the biggest one after that it
was 50,000
I think the exact number is 58,220. So yeah, you're right
about 60 And they also break it's close to 60 they also break
it down by you know by Here we go. This is now we're talking
about this is since the here we go this is with Desert Storm
Desert Shield really pretty much from 2001 Onward. Oh, no, I'm
sorry, Vietnam conflict. Here we go. This is a good one for you.
The Vietnam conflict, which I always was quite convinced that
it was the poor black kids who were dying on the front lines.
Did you ever get that idea?
Actually, no. That was I never got that idea. That wasn't that
wasn't sold to us back in the day.
It was sold to me that it was oh, it's always the poor kids
with no underprivileged anti
war folks around the world they have they have a fixed sales
pitch. And that would be part of it. Right? Well, I
just suggested you have the numbers the total of white
service members that was almost your 50,000 49,826 who perished
and Black or African American 7243 Big difference huge I
really had a different view of that and that's how it was
indeed sold to me as an aside this is also in detail and this
is all marked up in the show notes if you guys want to see it
so you know it's it's from the government it's what I'm the
numbers they have that here are the different types of deaths
that occur and this is for since 1980. You can have well maybe
just asked you what do you think the number one cause of death is
of US service. Now US military personnel what is the number one
cause of
death? I gave a couple of guesses. Yeah, sure. Okay, guess
number one food poisoning.
It's it is not listed as an item but it couldn't be it couldn't
be could be part of the number one try again.
Friendly fire.
That is possible. Ball. Yeah that possibly in the big the
biggest number I'll just tell you is accident. It's listed as
accident accidents. Yeah. And if you look at accidents, it's
really if you look at
across the board friendly fire, yeah, I'm am among other things
I was listening to a PBS show and they were talking about this
specific thing. And the kind of they used to have a again, like
a bride says I'm in New York is a Broadway play they used to put
on and the army guys who was stiffs that run the place, they
killed this thing, but it went on for about a decade it was
about entertaining the troops with the white why accidents,
you have to be careful. And it was about getting run over
running yourself over a shooting your body. Sure it was done as a
play. And it definitely had an impact. And it actually lowered
the accident amounts because people are more thoughtful
because nobody is thoughtful about this. And accidents
include all kinds of crazy things. A lot of mishaps during
basic training,
shooting your body, people get electrocuted in showers, and
grenade in the in the barracks. There's also homicide against
the Chandler Messiah, it's pretty high actually. Yeah, now,
here's the number that counts. And I and it's consistent across
the board, I'm going to give you Operation Enduring Freedom. Now
current just so you know, the quote was a disproportionate
amount of the deaths and going into the coffin sent there by
Hillary Clinton because that was what it was about was that that
was even funnier, that gets kind of lost in that whole piece.
disproportion amount of black and brown Americans, which I
will take to be considering the two who are talking to be
African Americans, I do not believe they speak for Hispanics
or Mexicans. But that number is even lower. So currently, the
population of black America, African Americans as per the
book of knowledge in the United States, and this was also a
surprising number to me. Well, do you know what the percentage
is of African African Americans in the United States?
17% or something? 12.3? Yeah, okay.
Mexicans is 17%. Now, that's not Hispanics, they are listed
separately. Anyway, we're talking about African Americans.
It is 12.3% of the overall racial makeup of the United
States. But if you look at the numbers, the claim was
disproportionate. Well, here we go. Operation Enduring Freedom.
1999 White deaths 193 Black or African American deaths that is
10%. So it's disproportionately less in fact.
What was the 200 Watt?
No. Number of Deaths and Operation Enduring Freedom.
1999. White, Black 999 1999 1999? Yeah,
you're right. It's about it's a little it's maybe closer to 11%.
But it's not every coffin.
No, it's not true is what it is. But they are starting the racial
war inside the military. This is this is what I want you to be on
the lookout for, to say this, you know Al Sharpton, if you'd
like oh, that's a good idea.
So it showed there's about 2000 dead white people. And about 200
and something black.
For us less than 200 193? Less than 200 193. Yeah, less than
200. Okay,
so there's 2001 999 2000 whites and 193. Black, Black or African
learning to El Sharpton. Yeah, let's
listen to it again. Let's listen to that we can listen to the
very end just commercial that's what he ought to be saying. He
is saying the Clinton campaign is saying that his tone is
harsh. And the people who die in those coffins by the way have a
racial makeup that is absolutely Brown. blacker than the rest of
the country
there's no doubt about there's no doubt about it. There's no
doubt about
the why is this guy on N S NBC in the first place. Does anybody
call these assholes out about this sort of thing?
I think that everybody including Joe and Mika believes him to be
correct.
And Joe and Mika What idiots are they yeah oh yeah. Oh, oh
they're all killing a black man. Yeah Wow, that's a good one. It
was it was very big clip as a day now but that Dale Sharpton
but your clip that your clip indicating it was you know 10%
But there was no clip you had to do the research.
Did I look for a clip please somebody spare me the work link
clips. Check back checking clips. But you know shot you
know how Sharpton is he saw the opportunity. You heard the guy
say it's like, oh crap, another way to go make money. Yeah,
let's go protest it. We need less black deaths in the middle.
Terry hey you Whitey kill yourself so we change the change
the numbers, whatever he you know how we operate he goes in
there and incites racial hatred until they pay him off and he
leaves and he saw this he saw this despicable human being this
guy. Yeah, go in and now we're going to start race wars in the
military. Yeah, that's where we really need it. Yeah, let's
break up the ranks actually
most of the military guys whatever race they are pretty
together.
Yeah, of course because that's how you stay alive. Yeah, yeah.
Oh. Well with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and
say in the morning to you John. With a C stands for Caucasian
advanced age guy Devorah
AK, and in the morning to you whatever that means. Also, in
the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the
air so there's no water in the dames in the nights out there in
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what does I don't think that counts.
Well, the problem is it was Mr. Instead of saying corporate
sponsors, it said corporate sponsors we miss it the first
time we use it and we miss the same time we use it.
It's because it's miserable.
It's well
it's miserable. I
was disappointed that we made a mistake again.
Make similar you that's the way that humans work.
Yeah, I guess we're not robots. Alright, so this is a truncated
list. And we're going to thank everybody we can and everything
we missed or
whatever, only one person to think here or this part. No. And
that is Dame Astrid, Duchess of Japan who sent in $234.56 versus
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unfortunately this spreadsheet thing that I have on this little
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sunflowers by Van Gogh and exactly one of those little
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joining the crush on John club. Wishing you all the best send
pictures John, I love you day master Duchess of Japan.
But she doesn't say the send pictures part. But
I thought you I thought you couldn't read I thought you had
no line wrap. What is this?
I don't but wishing the best is a standalone line. And I didn't
see the other part that you're talking about. Right. So I got a
letter from somebody saying that he's tried the ant trick and it
works like a champ.
Okay, would you like to reiterate how it works? Yeah.
All right.
Here we go. So when you if you're in California, we have
Argentine, Argentine Argentine ants. These things are a plague.
And that a lot of the West Coast hasn't but not, we don't have in
Washington state, they still have regular ants, which are
much more casual. So these ants come in, they always have they
have a very well structured society. One of the things they
do is they send scouts out to peruse the territory for
possible things to rush in and grab. And so when you see the
scouts and you'll see him once in a while you'll see it like a
lone ant on the kitchen. Yeah, yes. And so you take one of
those big lighters or Scripto, lighters, those things you'd
like barbecues with, and you torch him right there on the
counter, and you leave them there. Yeah. And then one
another. And then of course, somebody who keeps tabs on these
guys is, you know, Bill hasn't reported in, can we send a
couple of guys to look for him. And so if you see those guys,
you torch them too. And then pretty soon they sent somebody
else to look for the the old word what happened to these ads?
That's how they communicate through walkie talkies or how
does I
think I don't know what they do and maybe it's psychic, whatever
they did once in a while and it will be out there looking for
the word these guys when maybe they're, you know, running into
a different Hive or who knows and they'll find the dead
answer. Do they even invariably find the dead ants within a few
hours on these ants do they get around and they will sniff sniff
and go crazy run around the and then they won't know what to do
and they might go back to the the ant nest and say there's a
dead ant there and this send somebody to get him. So the some
ant comes out and grabs the ant and takes them back and where
they analyse him, and they decide whether there's something
they should do something bad going on out there in the void.
They analyse them, like in CSI rotate the answer, enhance what
happened to him, he has burned.
So what So the rule is what you want to do as a human? Is you
towards the answer when you see him but if you see an ant
carrying an ant, in other words, one of the dead ends taking him
back to the nest. You'd leave that one alone. Yeah, because
he's taken like the guy who's the witness. Yeah. And you know,
such Yeah, you go tell them what happened.
So they could both
so so if you see loan and Chip torture if you see as carrying
as you let them go, and then within that you won't see any
answer for like a month or two. Damn you. Now if you don't do
that, and these ants find something like anything, they
can some crazy little thing they can see anything next to you
come up with Kevin the morning and that kitchen will have a big
stream of ants and you'll find their head and do a honey pot or
something. Who knows. But you have to do that. And it's the
guy who people have tried this. They'll say it works.
That's it. That's it, that's another another and kill him and
relishing it more and more though. Yeah, well, it's good.
Do you think it's not embellishing? I think you're
expanding your your tactics?
I think I mean, maybe I'd be having a better understanding of
the mechanism. And
yes. All right, everybody. Well,
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with some money. And that's the end of it. And we do appreciate
y'all by the way. She becomes executive producer. Yes,
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Watching it developing news story that I just have to
comment on because nobody seems to make this comment. But you're
familiar with what's going on in me at Myanmar? No, I'm not
reading the election. The woman one Yeah. Well, she didn't win
because she's not electable. Oh, because it's against the law
here play this clip in your ketchup. And I have a comment on
this. I think people no one seems to be paying any attention
to his government
in 54 years. Under the Constitution written by the
junta. Suchi was not allowed to run for president because her
children are foreign nationals. She said she will lead the
country anyway. And as foreign education and Energy Minister
and Minister in charge of the president's office, she will
also have a major official role to play to ensure was handpicked
by su chi for the role of president. He's not widely known
and is not a member of parliament. While democracy has
made huge advances in Myanmar, the current constitution gives
the military a quarter of the seats in parliament and control
of several key ministries. So it will have a veto over any new
fully democratic constitution.
As a result, it was if you haven't noticed, they're all
gaga over this woman and she's cracked the junta and she's got
you know, this President's there. And
yeah, Hillary has been with everyone's been with her.
Everyone's been hanging out with her. Yeah. And she's cute.
anybody
noticed that? She's not the elected president. And she This
is the if this happened in this country, this would be the
Senate. It's like the Boss Tweed phenomenon. This is so corrupt.
She hand picks the president, he gets elected. And she says, I'm
going to still run things so I'm going to be happy. How does this
even close to being a democratic this is this is the basis of
corruption is corrupt system. That is no one says this. i Oh,
this is fantastic. This woman finally, military get them out?
Well, you know,
and when you say no one I have to agree. Because I watched
every day I've been watching PBS News Hour I've been watching the
news channels. You're right about Friday, by the way on PBS
NewsHour, boy do they phone it in on Friday. Nothing going on
on that show. But it's it's all Clinton, Trump Clinton, Trump
Trump Clinton blob is nothing there's nothing a worldly views.
Things are taking place in our world that are interesting and
important. But we're not hearing about most of them.
How much do I have moved? How often do we have to hear about,
you know, Trump, who's been eating I'm just getting sick of
the fact that he dominates the news so much. If he says
something that gets everybody's attention, oh us great. Or he
says All women should be beaten and then hung by their feet if
they have an abortion, oh my god, this guy's an idiot. He can
do it. And he says, No, I didn't say sorry. I said that was
you know what, John, kick back and relax. Kick back and relax.
I believe Donald Trump lost any possibility of winning the
certainly the general election but probably even becoming the
Republican candidate because of what happened to him with this
comment which you just categorise it. How did you
categorise again. What did you say?
The women should have an abortion should be strung up.
Yeah, exactly. Well, let's go now. punished. Let's go to the
videotape. And let me see. Where's this? Where is this
woman? Okay. In in the the wake of this, Chris Matthews Donald
Trump interview and how it was presented to them
never submitted to.
Well, they have some thoughts on that. Here's Cecile Richards
though, weighing weighing in on what Donald Trump said. So
thanks for coming back for this again, with Matthews. I might
add the same interview Trump, of course,
still thanks for coming back for this occasion. What's your
reaction to what Donald Trump said on the tape we just showed?
Well, obviously, what he said was outrageous. But I think
what's really important, I'm glad to push them on it, Chris.
I think though, what's important to recognise is Donald Trump's
position on making abortion a crime is the exact same position
that John Kasich has that Ted Cruz has, and frankly, the
Republican National Committee and their platform. And so I
think that the logical, logical next question, which you push
them on is, well, then what will we do when women are criminals
and doctors are criminals because abortion is outlawed.
That I think is a very legitimate question. And I think
although people may not want to hear it, that he's saying that
women will be punished, we know that they will be.
We know that they will be punished. If you even look at a
Republican, you will be punished that Cecile Richards has her
henchmen out, this is Don lo blowguns, I believe, and she is
also from Planned Parenthood, she showed up and CNN
again, I would just maintain Allison, that they're horrified
to have been outed for what they do every day, which is punish
women who seek abortion, to back laws that tell doctors, they
must lie to women, to work to shut down clinics to ban certain
procedures that doctors say are important for women's safety and
health. I mean, all of these things. That's what their agenda
is day in and day out. They do punish women. And so
they can. The way this sounds is if a woman looks at a
Republican, he's probably going to punch her in the face.
Isn't that what she's saying?
For Women's Safety and Health? I mean, all of these things.
That's what their agenda is day in and day out. They do punish
women.
We wake up as Republicans in the morning not that I am one. But I
wake up in the morning and go, How can I punish women, those
horrible beasts, it'll be so much better kids
have been so outfoxed by the Democrats regarding anything
that has to do with women with women. That is it's humiliating,
wait for it, but
their agenda is day in and day out. They do punish women. And
so they can be upset that Donald Trump is saying it out loud and
proud if he will, but hoped I really don't draw a distinction
between what the effect of their agenda is in their efforts to
punish women every single day.
Every day we wake up. We think how can we punish women? Yes,
that is the Republican mantra. That may be true for some
Republicans. I don't know. I should maybe the gay ones hate
the women. I don't know. There are gay Republicans and maybe
they hate women. There are gays, you hate women. But this is not
what Donald Trump thinks. But okay, so prefacing this by
saying, as I already stated, I believe Donald Trump has now
lost all opportunity. I don't think he can recover from this.
I really don't. The it is, it is so funny. When Tina saw the
soundbite because we all saw the soundbite of Donald Trump
basically saying as you as you summarise, women should be
thrown in jail if they have an abortion. A teen of the keeper
who has been following along with with with the show and has
been looking at Trump with different shouldn't have, of
course never voted for a Republican. She's a woman for
God's sakes that just wouldn't ever happen. And when she heard
that, she went, oh my god, ha. Oh, I can't vote for him. But
he's, he's all against women and what they and I understand
women, how they feel about their bodies and you have something
grown inside you don't Well I get it. And of course, you know,
when I said Well, I think he's lost the any chance of the
election because this her next comment was, that means we get
Hillary. Yeah, that's that's kind of the point. But I am here
to prove to you that this was orchestrated set up in
collaboration between MSNBC, Rachel Maddow and Hillary
Clinton by can prove this. Oh, and but more importantly, Donald
Trump did show he is not a skilled politician. Because he
committed the cardinal sin. He commented on a hypothetical.
Now, you never ever, ever comment on a hypothetical?
Because that hypothetical can then be used, your answer can be
used and said that's your position? Would you agree this
is something you don't
is absolutely true. You never most people say I refuse. I
remain on hypothetic. Yes,
the State Department we're here to mill and I'm not going to
comment on a hypothetical. I know what you're trying to do.
That's what they say. He commented on a hypothetical and
I'd like to prove that to you. And I'd like to show you and I'd
like to take you through the whole thing. Be fuel. So a lot
of people who are listening to this and jump in Oh, they're
they're defending Trump. Now. I think Trump is toast at this
point. I'm not defending him. were yelling, defend Trump. I'm
just wanting to preface it. Okay, so first, and everybody
saw that, let me put it this way. Very few people actually
watch the Donald Trump Townhall. It's MSNBC. No one cares
anymore. There's a million of these things going on. And it
was easy to miss. By chance. I caught it yesterday afternoon.
I'm looking like, wow, this is wow, this whole thing. And this
is kind of the sad part. Trump was doing what Melania had asked
him to do. He was being presidential throughout this
whole town hall. He was being kind, courteous calm. He was
addressing things with thought. But he made the mistake of
commenting on the hypothetical. So let's start with what you did
not see. And then I'm going to go into the segment that started
this all off, which was 100% Rachel Maddow right after it
took place. And and while you'll see that in a moment, so first,
about a minute of what you didn't hear the lead in with a
question from this young girl to Donald Trump his answers and
then we'll get into how this was propagated into making Donald
Trump pretty much unelectable young lady.
Hello. I'm Tanya. Amy. And I have a question on what is your
stance on women's rights and their right to choose in their
own reproductive health?
Okay, well, look, I mean, I'm, as you know, I'm pro life. I
think you know, that and live with exceptions with the three
exceptions. But pretty much that's my stance, said, Okay.
What should we what should the law be on abortion? Well, I, I
have been pro life, and what should the law I know your
principle, that's a good value, but what should be the law,
they've set the law and and, frankly, the judges and you, I
mean, you're gonna have a very big election coming up for that
reason, because you have judges, whereas a real tipping point.
And with the loss of Scalia, who was a very strong conservative,
this presidential election is going to be very important.
Because when you say what's the law, nobody knows what the law
is going to be. It depends on who gets elected, because
somebody is going to appoint conservative judges, and
somebody is going to point liberal judges, depending on who
wins never understood the pro life position. Well, I never
understood because I understood the principle of human life as
people see it. Well, what, what, what what crime is it? Well,
it's human life. Now. Why should the woman be punished? Okay.
That is what you did not hear and not see in any of the clips.
You only saw that if you watched it live from the beginning.
Now, I want to make a quick comment you right, you're right.
In terms of the way that what they're passing around. Yeah.
But I think it's interesting that a commentator will say that
he doesn't understand in any way, the pro life position.
Uh huh. Well, that's it gets more interesting because Donald
Trump, I don't know if it was a trap, but he put his foot right
into it. With that question,
it was a trap, obviously.
So right after this thing was done, this was just a yes, go
ahead. And one
more thing. Chris Matthews is going to take credit for
bringing Donald Trump down. And that's gonna be some is going to
be some
he'll have a network job. He's moving big house.
No, that's not possible.
In that room moving up to the big house.
Like the big house, you know, he's just going to take credit,
it's going to be in his bio.
So the way this aired linearly, and this topic was the last
topic of the of this townhall, right after that, Rachel Maddow
comes on the show. So I saw this in linear sequence, and I was
just online I'm now I'm like, oh my god, this is great. Here is
how it went down. What happened? Um, Rachel Maddow had a
scheduled interview with Hillary Clinton. And I don't know if
you've watched the Rachel Maddow Show lately, but unfortunately,
I've been
watching it about once a week.
So she does a lot of embellishment and blogs.
She's terrible at the one of the worst shows, and she's so snotty
jeez,
oh, get ready. You got a bucket. So she was interviewing Hillary
Clinton while this townhall was taking place. And by left, it's
a little long, but it's going to be worth as I left in there, the
adoration and the love for Hillary and just how awesome
Rachel Maddow is and how awesome Hillary is. And it just goes on
and on. And then she'll eventually lead into the piece
that we all saw. In fact, she actually aired a much longer
piece than it was cut down to in most other newscasts. But there
were also three edits. And those three edits, I have to say were
extremely important to the context of what was going on.
And it was a railroad job top quality, top quality, top notch,
good jobs, but it was a railroad job. So here's Rachel first
explaining how awesome because Hillary was in the theatre and
she had to go
in her name up on the marquee the Apollo Theatre. You can see
in the foreground there are some Bernie people across the street
from
she's very Hillary So Bernie people across the street losers
losers.
You can see in the foreground there are some Bernie people
across the street from the theatre. Meanwhile, well, that
was all happening me and my crew were all inside the Apollo
backstage in the offices they're prepping last minute questions
and research for Secretary Clinton fact checking everything
we were you see
photos of them like on laptops, fact checking everything because
the president next president says we got to be perfect,
perfectly right.
Clinton fact checking everything we were going to ask her and put
to her as soon as the event ended. And they cleared out that
auditorium that had been so full to see her, we rushed in as fast
as possible to set up the lighting and the cameras and the
microphones and the chairs and the tables and the water glasses
and everything on that stage. I got seated on the stage. Then
she got seated right after me. And then it's like rush right,
everybody got your phone's turned off? Okay, good. We gotta
go. Secretary Clinton and I kibitz for just a teeny tiny
second. And oh,
we Kim is just because we're such good friends, we Kimmons
for a tiny teeny second, but we had, we had to hurry up
for just a teeny tiny second until everything is adjusted in
terms of the lights and the sound and everything and then we
go, go, go go go messing around. She's only got so much time
she's a presidential candidate. We do the interview. It's fairly
intense. You're gonna see it in just a moment. She ends up
making news on the Supreme Court and on Bernie Sanders and on
what European leaders have been privately telling her during the
campaign,
which is another great bit.
But anyways, here's Rachel help Hillary make news
and and and, and, and, and fascinating interview, super
intense and then wrapped, super intense. It's over. She's gonna
go, we gotta go. So turn on the lights.
Let's go. Exhale,
and then we all get off that stage, grab our stuff, we turn
our phones back on my phone. And oh, my god. While that was
happening, and we had our phones turned off that you guys see
this. Literally while we were taping that interview with
Hillary Clinton today, Chris Matthews was simultaneously
doing the part of his town hall with Donald Trump, where Donald
Trump started pontificating on exactly how he would like to
punish women.
Now hold on a second, that lead in is already misleading. How he
would like to punish women. He didn't. Did you hear anything
like that? Would you ever see any of these sound bites of him
saying here's how I'd like to punish women.
Here's how I'd like to punish women. First. I'd like to punch
him in the gut. Punish him slap him slapping left slap, right?
And then bang in the air. Boom, pop that eardrum and then we're
stuck to the solar plexus. And then town this stop it.
Yeah, no, I don't think I saw that when you hear any of that
exactly how he would like to punish women jailed them maybe
maybe some fines if any American woman tried to have an abortion
in this country once he was president. And abortion was
banned.
Okay, so the lead in is saying
that's really horrible. Yeah, well, now I don't know if she I
really dislike her.
I have to only think that she's driving back from the Apollo
theatre about I don't think it was online right after the
broadcast. So I don't know if she actually saw the whole 17
minutes on this but ticular topic or not, but she leads in
and remember, Trump was quoting on our hypothetical which she
edited the hypothetical context out in the piece she is about to
play. Of course, she doesn't start with the context of the
question and how he answered first, which was appropriate,
saying, Hey, this is going to be an important election, whoever
gets in, is going to get that final judge vote. And that could
change how the abortion laws run in America, which is not
abnormal for a Republican candidate to say, but that's a
little different than he talked about how he's going to punish
women once he's president and changes the law, which is not
his change to make. And I will stop at the first edit. Because
there were three where she edited out most of the context
of this hypothetical
should the woman be punished for having an abortion? Look, this
is not something you can dodge. Abortion isn't a crime, or
Abortion is murder. You have to deal with it. Under the law,
should abortion be punished? Well, people in certain parts of
the Republican Party and conservative Republicans would
say, yes, they should be punished. Yeah, I would say that
it's a very serious problem. The problem that we have to decide
on, is it's very easy to say, well, what are you going to say
put them in jail? I
notice Trump is actually asking him, are you saying we're going
to put him in jail,
either to stay put them in jail? Is that what I'm asking you?
Because you say you want to ban it? I am against I am pro life.
How do you ban abortion? How do you actually do it? Well, you
know, you'll go back to a
here's where Trump messes up a bit, because what he wants to
say is, that may not be such a good idea to ban it, because
then women would resort to coat hanger shops. That's what he's
saying. But he screws it up and it comes out wrong,
you know, you'll go back to a position like they had where
people will perhaps go to illegal places
at this point. John, would you agree that he is refuting what
Matthews is saying?
He's handling it? Well? Yeah.
Like they had where people will perhaps go to illegal places.
Yeah. But you have to ban it. I knew ban and they go to somebody
who drove
you can again this hypothetical. Yes. I
think I feel about the Catholic Church's position. I accept the
teaching authority of my church. You know, the position on
abortion? Yes, I do. And do you concur with that position? I
concur with their moral position, but legally to get to
the question, here's my problem. But let me ask you, but what do
you say? That's not funny? You a church? Yeah, it's really not
funny. What do you say about your church? They're very, very
clear like that. But the churches make their moral
judgments for you running for president states will be chief
executive United States. Do you believe that? You believe in
punishment for abortion? Yes or No, as a principle, the answer
is that there has to be some form of punishment for the
woman. Yeah, there has to be some form. That I don't know
that why now, I don't take physicists and everything else.
I frankly, I do take positions and everything else. It's a very
complicated position. Tell me what
what you didn't hear was the Crafty edit between Trump's
answer and Matthew set, and then it jumps in saying, Do you
believe the woman should be punished? They took out his
follow on which is a 43 seconds, where he continues badger
badgering Matthews about his religion, and I understand
exactly what he was trying to do, but he was doing a
hypothetical. What he wanted Matthews to say was, Yes, I'm a
devout Catholic. Yes, the Catholic Church is it is against
abortion considers it and murder. And Trump was trying to
get him to say so what is the punishment the Catholic Church
hands out Hail Marys? Or what is it? That was what he was trying
to say? Thereby saying, you know, yeah, if you break its law
and you break the law, there has to be punishment. So what is the
right punishment? Well, how does the Catholic Church handle that?
What is your idea Chris Matthews that was taken out here's the
bit where he continues to badger him in a
position but you say that you're pro life. The Catholic Church is
my religion. Oh, no. I am talking about your religion your
religion. I mean, you say you're a very good Catholic I didn't
say very good I sent her a Catholic watch and secondly,
you're running for president I'm not I'm asking you what's your a
woman face? Are you gay you have
you say even says I'm not gonna play that game with you. Chris
Matthews you didn't see this on the Rachel Maddow piece? No.
Again, you gay you have you said you're pro life you have I am
pro life that means banning abortion. So is the Catholic
Church pro life but this is in Spain Why don't control it to
the church doesn't control the government. What is the
punishment under the Catholic Church? What is the point let me
let me give you Sunday for the New Testament render unto Caesar
the things that are Caesar's and the God that things that are
gods don't ask me about my religion. No, no, I'm asking
you. You want to be president. Tell me what the law should be.
Okay. So that's, that's what we came back in all that peace was
removed. We're Trump is clearly trying to say, yeah, maybe we
should have the same as the Catholic Church, you know, but
it's not. It's what it is actually being quite friendly. I
think if the law is like you should be punished, then you
know, let's make it not a punishment that's too big. Now
we go back to the Maddow piece. This is where she picks it up.
And there's another edit coming up.
I am pro life. I have not determined what the punishment
why not? Because I haven't determined it decided to be
thought of it. Because you could ask anybody, here's the problem.
Here's my problem with this if you don't have a punishment for
abortion, I don't believe in it, of course, people are gonna find
a way to have an abortion. You don't believe in what I don't
believe in punishing anybody for having an abortion. And I think
it's a woman's choice. So you're against your the teachings of
your church, I believe I have a view and a moral
side. This is this is actually the piece, the Edit was so
small. This is the piece that was also not in the Indian to
obviously view.
But I believe we live in a free country and I don't want to live
in a country so fascistic that can stop a person from making
that decision that they never would be so invasive. But I've
certainly heard of a society that I wouldn't be on. We're
familiar with Donald Trump, you wouldn't be familiar with a
society, like Dawkins so highly about your religion and your
church. Your church is very, very strongly as you know, pro
life I know. What do you say to your church, I say I accept your
moral authority. And the United States, the people make the
decisions, the courts rule on what's in the Constitution. And
we live by that. That's what you don't live by. Because you don't
accept it. You can't accept it. You can't accept it. You can't
accept we go back to matters of the law and running for
President because matters of the law. What I'm talking about. And
this is the difficult situation you placed yourself in by saying
you're pro life. You mean you want to ban abortion?
So you hear Trump moving on the whole concept of this
hypothetical, which he just doesn't, he's not able to get
Matthews to commit to it. Although I think the intent was
clear. Again, that's not unusual bite now, but we didn't hear
that. We never saw that. Now she wants to
I haven't I am pro life with exceptions. I am pro life fine.
So I already had that piece now. Now we go to the oh, here's the
Matthew. Rachel summary is coming up here.
I have not determined what the punishment went. Because I
haven't determined by saying you're pro life.
You mean you want it? That was it? I'm sorry. I played him the
wrong word. You see that whole piece that I just played? That
was knocked out after nine seconds in this piece? So that
whole piece just heard was not in it. Here's how it aired? I
haven't
I am pro life with options. I am pro life. I have not determined
what the punishment why not? Because I haven't determined by
saying you're pro life. You mean you want to ban abortion? How do
you ban abortion without some kind of sanction? Then you get
into a very tricky question of a sanction. Fine. on human life,
which you call murdered will have to be a fine prison for a
young woman who finds herself pregnant have to be determined.
Donald Trump, in that remarkable exchange with Chris Matthews,
there have been just here on MSNBC. Mr. Trump, the Republican
front runner pontificating on how he would punish women who
might dare to try to have an abortion in this country,
something which he would try to ban if he were president of the
United States.
I did not hear him say that. Did you
know it was a very good job on this was a hit job a hit job
and now but wait, here, here comes the best part. First, I'm
going to tell you the last 36 seconds of the actual interview
when we didn't see
then you get into a very tricky question of a sanction. Fine. on
human life, which you call murdered will have to be fine.
Prison for a young woman who finds
crap. I'm sorry, a little confused. It was late last
night. This is it. Here we go. Donald Trump.
Now,
this is it. So she sees this she wraps it up. She makes false
claims based on a hypothetical with an edited piece. But then
I ended up I kid you not I kid you not left the Apollo theatre,
came back to my office and then turned right around, rushed back
out again to find her again again after our interview was
done. Because I felt like I really needed to get her
response to this development.
I remember this is the woman they had just a few moments of
time with because the she's the presidential candidate. We have
to go turn your phone's off, shut up. We got Baba Baba, no
time she's on the move. But yet after this aired, Rachel Maddow,
she said I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna find her because
I felt like I really needed to get her response to this
development. I'm not in the habit of following people back
to their offices after my interview with them is over. Oh,
please. But in this case, that's exactly what I did. And I'm glad
I did it. Yeah, because
we need to get Trump out of the race. So
watch this watch. Now, Secretary. I'm not in the habit
of chasing people down after I've had the chance to speak to
them for a second round. But while we were speaking today,
Donald Trump made some remarks that you've had a strong
reaction to and I just wanted to get your take on this. Mr. Trump
told Chris Matthews today that abortion must be banned in this
country.
No, he did. We say that he did not say that
abortion must be banned in this country, that he thinks women
will go back to illegal places to get abortions once it is
banned. He's not
gonna say that either. He said that's what would happen if that
was if that's not a good idea is the way I heard it
said, quote, there has to be some form of punishment for a
woman seeking an abortion. And then he said he hasn't yet
determined what the appropriate punishment should be. And you
said on Twitter about that, just when you thought it couldn't get
worse, horrific and telling, what do you mean by that? Well,
what Donald Trump said today was outrageous and dangerous.
Rage Hillary is lying here. I'm sorry. Maybe she didn't see it.
But she this is these are lies outrageous and dangerous. Yeah,
if that's what he wanted to do, but that was a hypothetical.
Well, what Donald Trump said today was,
I'm sorry, you want to say something?
Well, yeah, I mean, if you're gonna start doing editing on
anything, and here's the good kind of gets me. I think the
Trump's decision making is a bit much, because I don't understand
why he would do anything with MSNBC, which is a clear
partisan,
he tried. I think this is the sad part. If you look, if you
will see the whole town hall in context, the he was really doing
a good job. He had a lot of smart policy answers. You know,
it's beside,
it's still beside the point. No, but that's why they had to ruin
enemy period to a Republican. He refused to do one of the Fox
debates. And they're kind of semi friendly, even though you
know, as we claim, they're actually run by the Democrats
like everybody else. But this group is, as you proved earlier,
with the, with the fact checking on the Sharpton lies. This is a
lying low level organisation that can't get very good
ratings, but they can create cause trouble. Yes, as you
again, showed earlier with the with the Sharpton stuff. And so
why would he go and do anything with these people? This, to me
is a judgement issue. This was it showing extremely bad or
naive judgement, even come on this station,
I would say naive in looking at how much work had to be done to
make this happen. They were just ready for him. They were just
laying in wait, and when can we do it? When can we get it? When
can we put something in there? And to take out the entire
conversation about comparing it to or asking Matthews what what
what does the church say? You know, maybe that's in this
hypothetical scenario, which will only be effect if the
Supreme Court decides to overturn Roe v. Wade. If if if
Trump already said in the beginning, he's pro life, except
for the three exceptions, which I presume are rape, illness,
danger to the mother, etc. Something like that, but it's
being like, the big three. But, you know, got screwed in your
judgement. Yeah, I agree. It's a judgement. But it was bound to
happen anyway. It would have happened anyway.
Well, maybe but did not with so many people. So birtley out to
get you. It just makes no sense that he go on there. And me
because they're not going to be sympathetic. He they're not
going to be swayed by his presidential attitudes at all.
They just do. They're just their job is to It's a hit job. And we
got to get rid of this guy. Let's see how stupid he is. And
they just go after him. They aren't paying any attention to
anything he's doing except they're just looking for him to
flub. And then you're going to take the flub, edit it in a
certain way and then push it
out. It wasn't even a flub, it was just a cardinal mistake. And
Paul, it was
a it was a flub by their standards. If
you did the edit right now. Okay, true. Yes, yes, yes. Yes,
I agree.
And so you know, if it's like you can do that, you could
probably take our show and like a couple of times, you'll say
something good. Nobody's
gonna get it. So you could totally make us into in Super
eight holes easily. Yeah.
Because we say everyone's will, you will say something. And then
if you just take that one comment, even though we I've
done it before, I said, Well, I think these guys are made a huge
mistake. I'm not I'm not those guys. But I mean, these other
guys have made a huge mistake, and you just cut out the first
second party leave in the first part. These guys have made a
huge mistake. Did you say that or not? Yes, I did. So he'll
corrected myself five seconds later. You could have been nice
to play that. So Trump tried to block this back almost
immediately and make that got no, that was
even a bigger mistake.
We think you might be right, he may have shot himself in the
foot.
I'm convinced of it. I want to play the rest of Hillary
Clinton. And how she turns this into what he said was dangerous.
No, what was aired in the Rachel Maddow Show was dangerous and
just listen to the rest about a minute left of her it couldn't
get
worse, horrific and telling. What do you mean by that? Well,
what Donald Trump said today was outrageous and dangerous. And,
you know, I'm constantly just taken aback at For the kinds of
things that he advocates for, you know, Maya Angelou said when
someone
bring in Maya Angelou, that always helps go straight to
the kinds of things that he advocates for, you know, Maya
Angelou said, when someone shows you who they are believe them.
And once again, he has showed us who he is the idea that
there shouldn't be when someone shows you who they are believed
them, when she slipped in, she made sure to believe him, even
him. We roll that back as
gently just taken aback at the kinds of things that he
advocates for, you know, Maya Angelou said, when someone shows
you who they are, believe them. And once again, he has showed us
I think
she said that she said them, I think I think she did it
correctly, is
the idea that he and all the Republicans espouse that
abortion should be illegal, is one that is not embraced by the
vast majority of Americans in our country. And in fact, as he
pointed out, if it were illegal, then women and doctors would be
criminals.
Yeah. That part is actually correct. If it's illegal, and
you break the law, is illegal.
And this is just beyond
throwing the election. Yeah, you're probably right. Let me
you know, I'm wondering about when I see something like this
happen with a throw in the election. Because they're
throwing the election because of Trump. They can't have him
because he could actually win. So let's screw him over and as
thrown to the wolves and get rid of him. Yeah. And let's run
crews who couldn't beat anybody. He's just an unlikable,
unpleasant looking person. He's slimy. Do you
remember the First Men in Black? Eye? The guy who had who had all
the bugs inside of him? Yeah, cruise? Cruise? Yeah. He's got
bugs inside of him. And then once in a while, they come out
and they appear on his lip.
Yeah. So. So every I know, this is probably completely one of
the nastier thoughts of mine. But I've I've had this thought a
lot, that we're early on in the election, where we kept
believing that they're trying to throw the election. You know, I
have this economic theory that has a 1480 year cycle of
depression. Yes,
there's, there's a book, there's a book coming out about it here.
And I've always been been subtly convinced that the Republicans
know that they can't really they don't want to be even though I'm
Trump might be able to get us through it. Other people have
done it. But you really want to put somebody like Hillary in
because it's going to happen, you know, she gets in, the
economy's gonna collapse within a year, and then you bring, then
you have or immediately or just before she gets in, but she
can't get but if it's just before she gets in, she's not
going to be I'll say, Well, you know, whose fault you're gonna
blame it on George Bush, I don't think so. They can't blame it on
anybody but themselves, right. And it shouldn't be nasty enough
to get them the Jimmy Carter Stiles situation, because it was
the Carter that got he was the last president that was involved
in this cycle. And he was a one term president, Herbert Hoover
was involved in this and he was a one term president, there's a
dis happens and whoever that person is, they have a hard time
staying in office, because you just get everyone gets mad, and
they turn to the other party in droves. And I really, there's
got to be some theorists that work within the party that that
know this. And they can say, Look, we really don't want to
wait, let's let's Hillary's perfect because that from the
Republican perspective, it, it reverses the thoughts on women
presidents, because she's going to be a screw up. We know she's
not going to be any good. She's going to be pro bankers. She's
not going to be not going to be any good. She's not going to be
a good president. And so you've got so there's, I know, it
sounds crazy, but I keep thinking that this is what they
want. They want a shitty president to be in there to
screw things up so they can get in full force.
If you're playing a long game, which these parties do. Then I'm
all in that makes sense. That's what they would do. Yeah, that's
what they would do. You don't
need to be in office, you need to be at the presidency. What
you really want is when you get the whole damn thing and you can
really get some shit done. Well, the of course the
the what it does boil down to in that case is if Hillary
Clinton's elected then you can be sure that the Supreme Court
will be stacked in the in the left favour versus the right.
That is one consideration they may want to make because you
can't just unless you're killed, you go kill the judges, because
it's a lifetime appointment.
Oh, you mean like Scalia? Yeah.
I'm not looking at anybody.
Yeah, yeah. I just want to continue with Hillary because
she really set the tone for this, she's been quoted
everywhere, the sound bites everywhere on MSNBC. And they
just keep coming.
And in fact, as he pointed out, if it were illegal, then women
and doctors would be criminals. And this is just beyond any
position taken by someone running for president in a
serious way in a very long time.
That's beyond any president. Yeah. But it was hypothetical.
And I think not only women, but men, all Americans need to
understand that this kind of inflammatory, destructive
rhetoric is, you know, really on the outer edges of what is
permitted under our Constitution, what we believe in
and people should reject it.
I have a question. She says under our Constitution, because
the Supreme Court made a decision on Roe v. Wade, does
that mean it's a constitutional law? I just don't quite
understand some technical way? I think so. Okay, because that's
what I think she's saying, I just didn't really understand.
It just comes across it. It's it's more technical way than
it's in the Bill of Rights, you know, and I'm saying, but she
makes it sound like it's what
it is. You take this thing that you have the Roe versus Wade
thing is that is that constitutional? The courts
decides, yeah, it's constitutional. So it's part of
the, so it doesn't violate anything in the Constitution,
or edges of what is permitted under our Constitution, what we
believe in and people should reject it. And women in
particular must know that this right, which we have guaranteed
to us under the Constitution could be taken away. And that's
why the stakes in this election couldn't be higher.
So she's making the election about women, which is what I do,
too, if I was her
Absolutely. In an offhanded way she's making about two judges.
Oh, of course, he's making about the judges. Absolutely. One
little last bit here, which I think is important to me,
because we've been following Trump's comments about NATO,
which I liked, because he was essentially what I liked from a
from a process standpoint, he was saying, Hey, don't worry,
Military Industrial Complex. I'm gonna I'm gonna clean you up
that last year. Yeah, and clean you up. But I'm gonna make sure
all these other bozos who aren't paying their fair share every
country, every NATO member must commit 2% of his GDP to NATO.
And we aren't and no one else is doing it. The President will be
you'll recall he was in was it South America? Hey, countries.
No, he was in.
Was it? Where was it? Went to Argentina?
Was it Argentina? Was it hey countries? No, it was in the
Balkans somewhere wasn't a quick stopover? Yeah, we were Yeah. He
said, Hey, you guys got to step it up a little bit. That's
basically what he said. Now, Trump has a different view, he
really wants to do a few things. He wants to pick up some cash,
presumably, to route it back into the military industrial
complex of the that's he's been very clear about that. And he
has a different negotiating style and tactic than what is
currently being used, which to some many is the appeal of of
Donald Trump. Here he is on NATO in that interview, and then
we'll go back and listen to the Rachel Maddow Hillary Clinton
version of what he said
it looks NATO we have old years old. Yeah, okay. You have
countries that are getting a free ride. You have countries
that benefit from NATO much more than we do. We don't benefit
that much. I think you can turn down new deals but all these
deals we've had for years like NATO and relationships with with
Japan, Japan doesn't want a nuclear weapon to defend of
course why why should they? Well, we give them you want them
to have a nuclear weapon than we did before? And I'll answer that
question but we defend a lot of people don't even know this. We
spend a fortune on defending Japan. We spend a fortune on
defending Germany right? We spend a fortune on defending
South Korea now I order 1000s and 1000s of television sets
here they come from South Korea they make so much they're making
a fortune they're a behemoth so as Germany why are we defending
because it's in our interest? Yeah, but why aren't they
reimbursing us why aren't they paying a good portion of the
cost is fine it's a good argument if you can get it but
if the alternative is from the messenger again it okay another
messenger they're gonna do because they like you. They fear
we're gonna get it. No, they're gonna get it because it's in
their best interest you want it to be why don't you send
something South Korea and Japan maybe having to develop their
own nuclear weapons capability. What I said is I'll keep it the
way it is, but they have to pay their fair share just South
Korea is a behemoth. They make so much the ships of the world
the great ships of the world. You can't buy televisions
anymore unless you go to sell other than Sony because the last
time we pulled trips of the 38th parallel we had a promise the
Korean war so I shouldn't be pulling troops. I'll tell you
the Korean War Okay. So we compete with South Korea, I
buildings in South Korea, I get along great with the people in
South Korea. Here's the best part. The top people cannot
believe because they didn't know I was going to be running for
president. They used to tell me, they don't tell me that anymore.
They cannot believe they get away with what they get away
with. You know, US, China, I have the largest bank in the
world in my building pay me lots of red largest in the world. I
know China, I have the Bank of America building in San
Francisco, I got through China 1290. I've made a lot of money
condos all over the place with China, I know the Chinese better
than anybody. They can't believe they get away with what they get
away. Well, they get away with it, because we owe them because
our leaders don't.
So Trump what he said, and he was very clear, it's like but I
you know, I don't want them to have nuclear weapons. But if
they want us to continue to protect them, they've got the
money, they should pay us for that. And we know that there's
in South Korea, there's been some of that, with some sales
was about a billion dollars. But it's, it's clearly not
equivalent to what we're putting into it. And I guess his version
of negotiation is, you know what, I'm telling you this, if
you guys don't pay up, we're gonna walk away and good luck to
you. That's how he does business. This does not fit in
Hillary Clinton's mind. But when you hear her strategy, you know,
it's kind of sounds like we're getting screwed.
He's complaining that we're basically carrying other
countries weighed in NATO and that other countries aren't
keeping up with us. Isn't there something to that that part of
the criticism? Well, I think it's fair to say that we do want
the countries that are partners in NATO with us to fulfil their
obligations. And we will continue to push that some
countries, as you said, have really stepped up in No, no
countries have really stepped in the last few years to do that.
And we want more to step up. But we have to look at what it means
to have defence. We have to modernise NATO, what kind of
alliances will NATO be? How does it protect from the non state
threat of terrorism, we've always been in an alliance
primarily focused on Russia and aggression, then moving our eyes
toward Iran and the potential of nuclear weapons and the like, we
have to take a 360 degree look about how NATO is going to help
improve the defence and security of our European partners. But I
would still argue, while we're in that process, to get them to
do more for themselves, and to change some of their laws, so
they can be better partners with us particularly on sharing
information across their own borders, and with the United
States share comes to potential terrorist activity. Again, don't
think you accomplish that, by holding this threat over their
heads where it at you act like you are totally oblivious to the
fact that Russia is probing the boundaries of the Baltic States,
for example, you don't, I think, get what you need out of NATO
countries, all of them, including the smallest ones, by
acting as though you could walk away from it, that could lead to
the politicians and the forces within let's say, the Baltic
countries who are favourable toward Russia, like Russian
speaking populations, to say to their fellow leaders, hey, you
know what the US is out of here, we'd better start making
accommodations with Russia. This all is a very complex set of
circumstances. I don't think he even has studied or cares to
understand. And so, you know, from my perspective, I'm willing
and anxious to take him on on this broad range of foreign
policy and security issues.
Well, so So I have a question. You know, here's the way I'm
seeing this. He is a, an American who is a capitalist,
kind of a classic character, who is really not part of the ruling
elite. I'll say if he's just a rich guy. Yeah. And who's in and
out of, you know, trouble. Hillary's part of the system,
she's like, you know, part of the Empire wishes your old
say, Yes, uniquely qualified to run the Empire.
The Empire is an empire is an empire is it relies on having
these bases all over the places to assert that we're an empire
even though we don't call ourselves that we're a nation
promoting democracy. Yes. So how many overseas bases are there
that the US maintains? I'm gonna get just to just take a wild
guess, at 662
I was actually gonna say 300. But I thought I'd give you a
break. I was very wrong. Wow, that's a lot. That's a lot.
That's a lot. And so this the reason I have all these bases
are just the cert, you know, hey, look, look at us, right?
It's like the Roman Empire were the closest thing has ever come
close. We've come very close to being like the Roman Empire and
they had bases all over the damn place.
That's a that's good to know this number. That's a very good
to know. And that's that's a lot of moolah.
Yeah, yeah, these bases cost billions. Yeah. per day. Yeah,
probably. But there's the festival arm has been $660
billion a year. And we don't even know where that money goes.
And nobody sees this as a problem except very few
politicians every once in a while somebody brings it up. I
mean, Ron Paul would be one of them. Well, actually, there's a
bunch of them. They mentioned it. They tend to be
conservatives, and they tend to, I think Bernie maybe has brought
it up. Yeah. But it's why can't we audit this these guys to see
where the money's going? And we know a lot of it's just being
squandered or it's going to some corrupt deals is nothing, just
no way you can which Donald
Trump has called out exactly as such. Yeah. And said he was
gonna go clean it up.
We could do a better job with our money. Yes. And everyone
would be happier. For sure. But yeah, it's hopeless.
But I think he is negotiating tactic is more obvious. So his
tactic is, listen, we're doing this for a long time. You owe us
money. If you don't pay, we're gonna leave. That's kind of how
business works. Hillary Clinton is saying, Oh, you don't do
that. You say, hey, we were actually what she said, was we
kowtow to them, because if we pull out, they'll go to evil
Vladimir Putin. So we're the suckers in her scenario.
Exactly.
And we are.
That's the policy. That's all the way it's always been this.
Thanks for having you here. We don't have any money. We don't
want to pay for whatever. And yet we can't get an audited
numbers. Yeah. So in that case, you know, you know this guy Milo
say you're not the Lucullus the he's a conservative from the
hours he from BC from Canada, I think. And he's, you know, the
crazy blonde hair. Gay. You haven't seen this guy.
I'm thinking of Boris character, the Mayor of London the way
you're describing? Well,
he does look a bit like Boris, but He's young. He's the he's
the guy who got unverified by Twitter for some conservative
comments. You know anything
about this, we discussed it doesn't matter. If they've lost
it, I lost the discussion.
So he's a huge Trump fan. And he calls Trump daddy. And I think
he's right. America right now. And this is probably the hardest
thing for Hillary. You know, when you're when you're down,
you want daddy to come in and fix and Trump is acting like the
stereotypical daddy. Let's come in and make it great. Now you're
sitting at home, thinking, Boy am a loser. No job. And some guy
comes on TV like an infomercial. Be honest, Trump sounds like an
infomercial. that, hey, I'm gonna make everything great
again, oh, you got my attention. Hey, you want to be great when a
job? Is very simple how this happens very simple. Hillary, on
the other hand, has a huge problem, which is underreported.
Luckily, there is Judge Napolitano to the rescue, who
gave a nice little summary of the current status of her email
investigation by FBI. And although I don't think mentioned
in this clip, we just received word here at the news desk of
the no agenda show. We just received word that State
Department has been told by FBI to stop their investigation so
they're out of the way. They're out of the way what the FBI is
doing. And of course, FBI is run by Jim Comey, the Republicans.
So if things are heating up Judge Napolitano who had a great
show on Fox and he got fired, didn't he? Apparently, yeah. So
he gets to come on and do his little spiel, too.
He was a little too old fashioned conservative
constitutionalist.
Yeah, let's kind of none of that. Here he is.
I think that Mrs. Clinton is currently at the vortex of a
perfect storm of legal misery.
I love that, that that should be on her at her epitaph should
read that perfect storm of illegal misery.
I think that Mrs. Clinton is currently at the vortex of a
perfect storm of legal misery. Her senior aides from her years
as the Secretary of State who are still very close to her have
been ordered to testify under oath and to Freedom of
Information Act requests in a discovery context, meaning the
ability of the lawyer to ask questions is wide and broad, and
there's no judge there to sustain any objections. And two
federal judges, one of them appointed by her husband, have
both suggested there is likely evidence of a conspiracy in the
Office of the Secretary of State when she was there to evade and
avoid federal law and to that than the Very same week, the
same people that are going to be examined in those two Freedom of
Information Act cases are being called into the FBI. And asked
if they want to speak to the FBI a very dangerous thing for any
lawyer to allow his client to do and after that Mrs. Clinton will
be called in
y'all do an ID is that the reason she embarked on all this
was to hide her communications from the world from the Freedom
of Information Act from the Congress. That was the point
there's no other point in doing this to men to evade subpoenas,
inquiries, congressional committees. And now it's all
over the well I mean, everything is out there. We know that 22 of
these were high extremely high, highly secret and it's look it's
it's a perfect the word con dine was invented for this kind of
retribution This is conduct punishment. You want to hide
your your official acts in a way that nobody else has. Nobody
else would try to.
I like that word calm down. CO n di g n.
O N Buse the
adjective con dine to describe a fair and fitting punishment.
Like the con dine cleanup work assigned to a group of students
after they made a big mess.
I interpret that I've never heard this word.
Yeah, it says seems to be a legal term. Yeah, you can
pronounce it combine or combine. It comes from the Latin con
means together all together and
didn't get applied to Clinton and Dyngus
which means worthy. So something that is con dine is deserved and
appropriate. There you go. But the way I hear what that was the
guy with the scuba diving accident, which isn't a
Krauthammer, Krauthammer, Heimer crouton Heimer. He said, she
tried to hide her emails. Now. Everything's out in the open
that as a combine, punishment, inferring and maybe in a way
that nothing will happen. FBI won't do anything, but at least
she had the combined punishment of all of the stuff that she
tried to hide was out there. I'm not quite sure what he's trying
to say.
Not quite sure what the FBI is going to do.
Well, what do you think?
Well, what I think is that they're going to do what the FBI
has done historically, and use it to blackmail her.
So they'll, they'll, it would be appropriate then for her to get
into office. And then not to do or not to open investigation,
but to keep that ongoing and keep things kind of alive to be
able to blackmail her while she's the president. Yeah.
I like it. Yeah. That's the kind of leverage they don't really
have the kind of leverage at the NSA and the CIA,
right? Because they got they got the pictures and they got the
audio tapes of all that shenanigans. Yeah,
exactly. This NSA and the CIA could embarrass Hillary, but
they can't throw her in jail. Right? FBI FBI can do that.
Which got real that's real leverage.
Huh? That's pretty scary.
Yeah, well, it's not an unusual thing for them. I mean, they
it's the no DNA. And their DNA is from J. Edgar Hoover.
Was LBJ or that thing playing on in New York that play the all
the way I think it's called the organisation or
in any references to it. It might be I don't know that. It
has not on my list, because I've seen
I saw it in Austin. And there's a lot of good LBJ stuff in that.
No, I think they I think that's that's probably closed old
already probably closed.
Last a bit of us. election news I have is just the millennials.
So CB, you saw the bird that hopped up on baronne Bernie
Sanders lectern.
Yeah, this everyone's seen. This is very cute. It was beautiful.
It was really fantastic. Well, this has ignited such a passion
in the millennials that Mr. Sanders granted interview to CBS
News Facebook edition. The face baggers, so they bring out the
girl the face bagging girl for CBS News, who who is running the
whole face bag, CBS News, the Tiffany network top the Tiffany
network and remember that TV network and then she gets a
unique opportunity to speak with a man who she clearly would like
to see would be the next President of the United States.
Hello, Senator. Thanks for fans. To hear what he said. He said
How you doing Facebook's
doing Facebook's
How you doing Facebook's
Facebook fans Facebook positivity in your campaign. And
I see that Daly on the campaign trail with you it was most
evident when
this distortion is there recording now mine
evident when a small bird came onto the stage and you basically
shut down the internet.
John, a small bird came onto this day and he basically shut
down. Said shut down the internet.
Shut Down Facebook because the hashtag Bernie Sanders started
turning. Do you think you gain more supporters because it seems
birds on your side?
Do you think you're getting more supporters because people now
know that birds are on your side? CBS News generally you
listening to CBS News John, CBS News the face bags edition
Anders started turning Do you think you gain more supporters?
Because it seems birds on your side? We think this is a message
from
a message from the ether Johnson.
The symbol symbol the
wire on the right side of rescission. Do you have an
animal's here?
Did bird issue
that's why you're here a follow up question that I'm done with
it. Do you have an animal's here? Do you have an animal
spirit is the next question.
Oh my god this is a news reporter
I can't even play more is too horrific. Yeah, CBS
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boys and sharpening crickets and cream Gibbons Garza single malt
scotch, cheap wine and chilli dogs, raspberry pies and
breakfast burritos, pork grip and pale ale grammes and DMT bad
science perky breasts Johnnie Walker green label video games
have vaporised progressive rock and Russian imperial stout beer
and pepperoni pizza, ginger ale and journals and matinee Mead.
Long list
was a longer list than the donor.
It certainly was. It certainly was. Oh, I
was watching. I was watching Antiques Roadshow show have
actually played this clip to Mimi and she had her jaw dropped
too because this is a very strange, this is the strangest
reaction. It kind of makes sense when she explains it. But this
is one of the strangest reactions they had this oil
painting was just a gorgeous piece and you could tell it was
worth something estimating 20 grand. It's a big when you watch
Antiques Roadshow,
you try to guess that's the whole point of the show. Hello.
And this is the strange reaction that just got a kick out of the
viewers
back you've had in your family on your wall. I've had a look at
the back even the nails in the same place. This is his original
frame. It's never been out of its frame. And one of the things
about that impasto is the catches some of the dirt you can
see that there so it could stand a little bit of a cleaning if I
were to put an auction estimate on it I put it at 200 to
$300,000 That's terrible oh it was such a nice picture to just
sort of
wow so terrible I have to get rid of it now.
Yeah nice pictures to have around and now she knows she has
to sell it you can't keep a picture like that didn't surance
cost is too high for a woman terrible
ruin my life went down the wrong to hold on second.
I could tell well
Ebola sorry, has a water and I was laughing and went down the
wrong tubes
Why didn't you just spit take is when I'm angling for that was
close
someone thinks I have SARS. No no no. SARS SARS.
Yeah, that's a pretty old reference. Yeah. All right. So
I'm gonna talk a little bit about a funny depression Fuyu we
always dealt with depression foods.
Yeah, we're a mac and cheese of course is the started the
that's the Whopper but there's one I forgot all about until I
saw
I'm sorry. Back in one second. Explain how you're doing
comparisons. Depression foods, and was Mac was a mac and cheese
was that invented during the Depression How Is that
comparable to what was the depression
event invented during the 30s? Yes, okay. During a depression
it's a depression food is cheap crap. You can buy a Mac and
Cheese dinner for 39 cents
and contains no actual mac and cheese. It's cardboard and
glues. No
Magno. Jeez. I forgot about this guy. And this used to be a fad
and it was in the 70s. And then it just died off like around
right around the 80s. But at one point, these there were three
companies that were involved in this and they were dirt
franchised all over the place I remember this these guys. And
here's an ad for one of the three this is Archer teachers.
And this is a 32nd ad and
this is an old school ad from back in the day. It's a real
real ad there's your fingertips
at how do we make the meal you can't make it home. What makes
us fish fillet so crunchy chips like french fries outside and
baked inside. We'll never tell
Wait, they just see them say will actually tell you what's
inside. It's a secret.
Well, I think they were talking about the the french fries. This
spices down the the french fries. Okay, so there was a It
started in the late 60s Just before the depression they were
very popular three chains around the country. The biggest one was
h salt. On a salt fish and chips. I think it was like 800
stores or something like that ours or treaters was another
came out as a salt alum who started the trend that they were
Sausalito based company called salt and they changed the age
salt. And then they were all over the place and they were
real fish and chip shops with the big giant cooker that you
know that Yeah, sure. I in England. Yeah, of course I've
seen him. And they cook these things. And they there was a
salt and then there was Arthur teachers with a copycat and they
were all over the place. And there was a third one called
roads, which there were still a couple of those left in the 90s
but they're gone too. And I have been completely baffled and we
talk about this country's lost his sense of humour. We have all
kinds of different changes in the culture we have
multiculturalism we have all these things going on. Why of
all the things that have passed it to essential oblivion? I
believe there's like five H salt fish and chips left. And one of
them I don't even know why they exist. There's one in Sacramento
Why did these things go into complete oblivion? When fish and
chips is a fantastic product? I had to think about this. What do
you think that might have caused this? I mean, do you even notice
that there were used to be fish and chip shops all over the
country?
Well, I of course fish and chips. The only knowledge I have
is that it was it's a British thing and I've had a lot of it.
It's a messy gooey, very simple snack. You throw some tilapia I
don't know cod I guess in this
place. Sorry a lot of place. But he la ice out of place. That's
one of the fish they like to use place okay. Yeah,
yeah, it's just a business it's a
seems like it find that especial batter.
Beer beer batter, batter batter, I
guess. With well not really but it's like a build beer batter,
but it just has a fluffy quality is nice. And then they throw in
the fries and it's not a bad meal. Uh huh. If you like those
mould vinegar, yeah, it's all right. Okay, well, I think what
happened because it seems to me that would be back as a cycle
cyclical snack because it was a depression food. I think. I
haven't. I haven't researched the 30s with it, but it really
was popular in the 70s and anything popular in the 70s
there was a depression element. I think it was it was killed off
because it's died off in the 80s when this anti fat movement came
up. Ah, yes. Right foods and fat makes you fat and all this other
nonsense. Yeah. And that's the end of that piece. I'm on to the
next item.
So what other well, do you want to talk about the flophouse?
We were talking about these the flophouse there's a there's
another thing that's going on. What was the name of that woman?
She was Russian she's a Russian woman she started this place in
Los Angeles called What would the what was the name of it and
I'm gonna look that up. I have my notes. She did a Kickstarter
for it. Yeah, it was a Kickstarter and she set up these
these little cubicles little places you could sleep in nude
photos of it was in the LA Times. She's chasm mated Nicole
because it's even though they're charging 40 bucks a night or
something for these
pod shares what it's called pod share, pod share.
So you should look this up and I'm thinking this isn't another
depression. The analogue of something that used to happen an
ad was thinking flop houses or something like that. But it's 40
bucks a night for a flop houses should be really five.
Yeah, if you if you look at the numbers $40 very expensive for a
bunk.
You can get a motel room someplace for 40 bucks.
Yeah. Well, I don't know if you can get in downtown LA but yeah,
but
downtown LA is not a piece of cake. Who wants to be in
downtown LA, a lot of
millennials are in downtown LA, there's a whole scene going on
there.
So you can spend 40 bucks, which is like a bunk is like a
barracks is more like a barracks in a way. And so you sleep in
there and you got one guy with gas. And the whole place the
whole deal is ruined. Or somebody else who kind of guys
that would stay there. Maybe it's throwing up throwing up
over the side of the bed because there's like bunk beds, at their
little cubicles. You have a little television set in there
by yourselves kind of like a small prison. This is another
toy this is reeks of depression. To me. wishes as far as I
can go with this recording too. Yeah. Okay. So and no
predictions for war would What do you think we should see from
the previous depression that we should be seeing a version of in
this as a
physician shifts to be honest about it? No, I just I can go
for some think we're gonna have it pretty well covered. I mean,
we have the Uber and the Lyft. And all that stuff, which to me
is an analogue of hitchhiking, which was ride sharing,
although I was thinking about that. The, because I took an
Uber last night. The difference between when I was in New York
1987 8687 MTV. Now if you wanted a limo or towncar even you know
with a driver who would wait for you you had to do for our
minimum, it was really expensive, hit a bucket a day
ahead of time. Then they had car services in New York, this was a
big thing it cabs and car services. And it was you know,
it was the same guy except, same. Usually they were
Pakistani or Indian or the Sikh and a lot of Sikh no matter
where they're from.
And they'll had CB redid the beads around the leads
on the stool on the chair, and they had CB radios, they were
always talking on CB radios with each other. But then you had the
the car service, same guy, same beads on the chair, and we used
comunicar. And just to show you the improvement, and I've been
I'm gonna give Uber this. So if if MTV was going to send me with
a car back home, I would have to take a voucher, they would hand
me a voucher, which is like the Federal Express airway bill with
four carbon copies in
it. And it would say had those in PC Magazine, from
1515, Broadway or whatever to was for somewhere on West 57th
Street. And that'll be the destination. But you know, you'd
had to call up ahead of time an hour before wait on the phone,
listen to the recording, saying, you know, you there's you're
almost tying up 15 more minutes, 10 more minutes, five minutes
sometimes works. It was rain, we're experiencing delays of
more than 20 minutes, all of this. And then if you didn't
show up after five minutes or 10 minutes, they would leave and
then you'd get a penalty for it. And all of this now it's just
you click this app and boom, and then someone shows up. I got to
say that to me is mind boggling. I have to say that that is
pretty incredible.
We've been using Uber in New York, it's the best. This is
absolutely the best but but apparently Lyft is is taking
them is pushing them out of business. According to the Uber
guy. Oh, tell me. He says that Lyft is in New York. Lyft is
almost gotten 70% market share. Because of the tipping.
Yeah, I gotcha. I gotcha. That makes a difference. Yeah,
word guys a little irked by this one. But since JC has an Uber
account, it's even though they're not number one day, it's
just like you. It's just it's on his phone. It's always Uber
driver. One minute away. Yeah. Wherever you are in man. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. So you push the button and boom, there's the guy.
And this, but this is a depression era. It's totally
depression. Yeah, your whole infrastructure, which is
beautiful. But yeah, the tip the tipping thing is I agree. I
think that's a big problem for Uber. And I don't understand why
they don't just go over to it. Why they're just jumped in.
Anyway, I just call it bits of news. Just want to want to throw
pasture. I want to let you go because your birthday weekend.
Everyone understands. From the military context in Europe. I've
received a couple of messages. Just want to put them out there.
One of them you probably heard there were riots and Molan bake
in Belgium. Yep. And this was quote unquote pro testers. So
my, my contact immediately sent me a note he says, This is
exactly what you do when people need to disappear. What? So if
there were terrorists sitting in Mowlem bank and they needed to
get out of town get out of the country, that creating a riot is
a perfect distraction for it. Oh, nice. And you can just see
the Belgians going, Oh, man. Oh man.
Got away both. Oh, we were too busy with
the reason why the almost 700 dependents of US military
personnel and Turkey were evacuated. I also got that
answer. There specific intelligence known to the State
Department and defence department that ISIS has said
they are going to attack American and Jewish children so
Israel see Israel making similar moves.
Now that's the first time they is first
time. Yes, yes. First time.
Makes you wonder may not be legit.
What they have a the information I got may not be legit, is that
we're saying? No.
I mean, the information is being passed. Oh, it's being passed
around? Oh, sure. Sure. Because we haven't seen any evidence
that Israelis are being targeted for anything blowed up. Right.
There's nothing really going on with ISIS in Israel. Right.
And and so and they specifically said children, which is always
you know, right. We know who likes to use,
like a bullshit thing. They just hit the Americans out or excuse
maybe, yeah, maybe better. Yeah, it's something else is gonna
happen? Yeah,
yeah, something's definitely going to happen. And I want to
put Algeria out there. There are so many connections now between
the Belgians and the and the different gangs. This is kind of
like the road to our main production. Which one were they
active John Doe to automate the RAF?
Were they that was in the 50s Wasn't it?
I think but they kind of were still jerking around through the
70s I thought but they were essentially they're essentially
to finance their operations they were criminal gangs and you
know, they steal expensive cars then a lot of what is happening
you read it all over Europe. They call it in Holland they
call the RAM crack which means a smash breasts may smash what's
called Smash job so the steel really expensive grab that yes
smash and grab Thank you, Bill steel expensive car smashed into
an ATM or other form of cash dispenser. Bit Yeah, it's a
great bit and have another expensive car they stole and
they take off with the with the cash. And the suspicion now is
that these are Moroccan and LG Algerian gangs. Then they and
there's a lot of connections there with terrorist networks
and so I'm thinking
eyes What are you bitching about? Diversity? Yes.
Eyes on Algeria. Oh, and it's called a bluff Croc in Dutch.
I'm sorry. I thought was wrong. Crack bluff crack. Wolf Croc.
Hello, everybody. DJ puff could walk with you.
I was listening to a school scandal story on CBS. I think
was CBS RB or a gay BC. Oh, and I don't know right in the middle
of it. They actually had a correspondent go into aprox ism
or something or maybe had a Tourette's thing. I don't know
anything about this story. Well, the story is about oh, well the
school scandal but let me play the ISO before you play the
scandal story. Okay. Hi. My Player Yeah. Hi. What is that?
Well play the whole school scandal story you tell me
now to the school scandal erupting in Detroit a dozen
principals accused in a nearly million dollar kickback scheme.
One of the principals once helped on an episode of Ellen
ABCs Eva pilgrim on the celebrated principal and the
allegations tonight.
Tonight, a fall from grace for this Detroit principal who was
featured on The Ellen DeGeneres Show in February. Hi, Janie, who
are you with? Hi, Ellen. I'm with the most amazing man the
principal of Spain Elementary School, Ronald Alexander jumping
for joy when Ellen and Justin Bieber teamed up getting his
school more than a half million dollars for school supplies and
repairs. He now finds himself facing charges one of a dozen
Detroit area principals accused of receiving kickbacks the
conduct alleged here is egregious that kickbacks cost
the school district almost 3 million INVESTIGATORS SAY THE
ACCUSED employees accepted inaccurate invoices. In return
the school supplies vendor Norman Shai, who lives in this
mansion outside of Detroit rewarded them with gift cards,
cash and home improvements. Principal Alexander was accused
of taking 23,000 in kickbacks and bribes
It was a one there's a story goes on with more. More after
this. This is the pride thing just in most school dishes I
think California is rife with this these middlemen in the
middle of these is they're stealing all the money the
taxpayers money
yeah
that's what I still listed as well. Woman did. Jay threw it to
her and she made this crazy sound. Hi.
That's a woman. That's a grown woman. Yeah. That's that's a
glitch. She's clearly an AI. That's a glitch. Hello? Hi. Ah,
no, no, that's just that's the DSP just went haywire. You
think?
Sounds like it? Oh,
that's like Washington. I couldn't see. I don't know her
lips move. Interesting I've ever heard where her lips moving when
they came out. Well, it was a long show was a little bit of
wide shots. So you can tell
it's the same woman speaking when she makes that sound in the
middle of it? Yeah. Oh, you were high.
Maybe it was a DSP issue, but it was the first one I've ever
seen. Sounds to me like the AI glitch. That's
what I think. Ai i. Alright, I won't let you go. You good?
Yeah, I think so. I think we got stuff for coming up for the kind
of show on Thursday. And we'll
have lots to talk about on Thursday. I want to make sure
you get your because at what time is it there? You're now two
o'clock almost two o'clock. You're almost a year and we
still gotta do art and credits. Yeah. Okay. You are the other is
the family like? Well, I get the door. No. Are you done yet? Are
you done yet? You're done yet yet?
With your podcast with your podcast, but that podcast dad's
podcasting again.
And since as rig I set up in here is pretty fun.
I take a picture, take a picture, take a picture. Good
idea. Take a picture. Take a picture. And happy birthday,
John, for you.
Thank you very much and happy birthday. Thank
you for your courage and your passion. broadcasting to you
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are peppery I got ants
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