Boom, that's off the table. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Number 24th 2016 This is your award winning give on nation
media assassination episode 880.
This is no agenda,
celebrating traffic and weather together on the eights and
broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet
here and femur region six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry and from
Northern Silicon Valley where Plato say, woman who plays with
man's pickle makes love with relish. I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg
Levin Buzzkill.
They just keep getting better man. I really have to go back
and have to apologize. I was kind of against the whole Plato.
Plato say
Plato. Yes. Play Doh Play Doh.
He's played he's got some he's got it going on our Plato guys
got chops. He should do something with that. Oh, yeah.
So back back from the little jaunt in Florida. Yes, you
went to Florida. And celebrate Thanksgiving in advance. I
guess. So.
It was. It was time it was time for me jaunt. Oh, well, Tina
live there the keeper for 16 years or so. So she has friends
and stuff and yeah, wouldn't visited all the friends was
nice. So
you saw everybody's friends? I saw her friends. Yes.
And he probably brought it up to you. We went we saw Andrew
Horowitz and his lovely wife. Yes. Apparently sick as a dog.
He was already kind of sick. But I guess he took us on his boat.
We had a nice dinner.
You random you random into the ground? Well,
I heard the show. And he sounded really, really like horse.
Yeah, he doesn't. He's not like you. You can be sick as a dog. I
just inform people out there because, yes, it's this sick as
a dog. You sound fine.
Well, I would have to suggest to him that maybe the hookah was
not a great idea.
Yeah, I know. We're back. He says that we come back. He's got
his boat right behind the house. It oh, by the way, the tiki hut
that I've heard him talk about? Yeah, this is not a tiki hut.
It's a friggin annex. It's big. It's huge.
Yeah, I always thought it was just a little hot. That's
exactly what I thought, oh, no, no. No. I guess he had some
seminars come by and bless it. So then it's legal. But I mean,
that's it. It's a it's an annex. It's like the Benghazi annex.
That thing is so big. And then he breaks out the hookah.
Excellent.
And he has already a lengthy thing going on. Exactly. This is
not some. Okay. Well, you know, if he had to spend more time in
California, you know these things? Yeah.
We had a great time. That was fun. But also, Tina's friends.
were fantastic. It was great. I passed all the tests. I'm good
to go.
Oh, he did. Yeah. Did they tattoo some on your face? So
they know that now they all just have their little clipboard
and check mark, check, Mark, check, Mark, that tonight to
discuss it on the big Thursday night conference call on all
women talking about how they're going to bring man down. You
know that one? Yeah.
Let's get a tag line tapped into that thing. Yeah.
Okay, well, lots of places to start. We have some good
EUROPEAN NEWS today as well. But what is abundantly clear, for
those in the United States of Gitmo nation and far beyond? Is
the media in particular, but people just hate president elect
Trump are going to not let up with this racism thing. Oh, live
okay. Oh, my goodness. It has been I mean, it's just
atrocious. But it's
pretty bad. I haven't noticed the targeting racism so much as
this conflict of interest issues that don't exist
yet. See, that's that's much less for at least the media
that's been thrown in my face. I'm seeing
all right. So I've been fine. I'm still on the NBC side of the
thing. So I'm studying them the most. And I've got some
breakdowns of the bull crap the way they're presenting it. Okay,
you want to do that? Firstly, you know, you go with a racist
thing and then move on to how come I have to do the racist
thing. That's race and racism. So racism? He said go racism.
First, go racism.
All right. Southern Poverty Law Center, Southern Poverty Law
Center. Yeah, Southern Poverty Law Center guys
are really bad.
They are very bad. They are hugely funded. This is a
nonprofit with last time I looked $250 million dollars.
Yeah, lots of lots of money and their job is to identify hate
and racism and put it on a map and then go on TV and explain
it. Here's the Southern Poverty Law Center's editor Ryan lens
who's not often it's usually the other guy, the CEO who does
these things. I guess they're splitting it up. They're
so busy. Yeah, they got so much to do well, but
just identifying all the racism, all of the racism.
And I'd like to make one more point. So, yesterday, Donald
Trump released his plan on YouTube, and he announced some
very thorough, very specific things that he was going to be
doing by executive action. And he referenced a phrase in the
midst of the speech, he said that he's going to drain the
swamp drain the swamp was a meme and a Twitter hashtag that grew
exploded really after Donald Trump came forward with plant
where with allegations that it was a rigged election, and it
was spread specifically or among the people that were spreading
the drain the swamp hashtag, were avowed, racist, white man,
white supremacists who exist on Twitter to harass.
I like that. I like that. I would like to be a white
supremacist who exists on Twitter. Hi, my name is Hi, my
name is Adam. I'm a white supremacist. I exist on Twitter,
racist white man, white supremacist who exist on Twitter
to harass and demean various ethnic groups. So we have a
little bit of a two sided message here. Yeah, he's saying
stop it. But he's also you know, giving a wink wink nod nod to
the very people he's asking to step away from their violence.
So he's now drain the swamp is racist, John, and it's just
not natural to say I unfortunately didn't pick this
up. So I didn't make a couple of clips that would fit right into
this including the thing with one of the basketball coaches or
actually one of the I guess he's a general manager, Phil Jackson,
very famous guy who used the word posse in discussing with
somebody mission. Oh, racist, Brian rice, Lebron James. Well,
here's I'm gonna give you the rundown of the clip I would have
made if I had known this direction. So Riley had to
receive an A Smith, one of these pundits or sports pundit on
talking about this, because O'Reilly was befuddled by how
the word using the word pussy in describing LeBron James's
entourage and or business, no business partners was racist.
And it was the most convoluted explanation it was that Yvo
Riley had said posse, it's not racist. Oh, yeah. But because
because Jackson works with black players, and he has been doing
so for 20 years. He should know better. Thus, it's racist. Ah.
And I was just that it was an eye roll or for me that.
Yeah. Isn't that interesting? Well, and if you had had that
clip, I would have been even happier because I would have
seamlessly flown right into this clip, which is CNN, Brooke
Baldwin.
You might have seen this one.
I probably again, yes. Yeah.
Okay. Well, and she has some author Professor spoke for the
dinos. Pundit, Charles Kaiser on and he is going to explain
splain to us what Trump must do to stop being any of people. He
doesn't want to be seen as a racist. He has certain things he
has to do and I found this to be just the whole segment was
fabulous. Let's bring
in CNN political commentator and Trump supporter Paris. Dennard.
Also Paris Dennard is Joey's a pro Trump guy. Black
trolls, Kaiser is with us. He's a cnn.com contributor and a
white guy, right, the author of multiple books, including the
cost of courage, the story of how one French family fought the
Nazis during the Paris occupation. gentleman's
question, of course. And thank you, Charles. Let me just begin
with you. I mean, now you're hearing we're getting some of
the the information coming out of this New York Times meeting
that Trump has disavowed this particular group. Is that enough
for you?
Well, I'm delighted that my minister Trump has visited my
alma mater at the New York Times and said that he doesn't want to
do this anymore but I want to hear
this guy douchebag Bobo to do what did you go to the
University New York Times University, your alma mater, is
that can you say that for everything? You're on the moon?
I guess so. I
guess he's a New York Times guy he would he would he says goes
yeah, he's the
great old lady. Right there. Is
said that he doesn't want to do this anymore. But I want to give
him a little advice. Oh, advice as a future if he does not want
to stimulate the alt right.
Don't stimulate the Albright words I never thought about her
here and the media first
thing. He should never retweet someone with a name white
genocide who was his dresses, Jew America. That's what he did
in February.
I have to say, Good tip. I wouldn't do this either. If your
address is Jew America is not something to retweet. Good tip.
Good tip. Good tip.
You should never ask his supporters again to give the
Nazi salute, which he did at a rally in March.
Now this is interesting. So and he has a little list. So he's
reading these off to the right hand side of him. He's saying
that in a rally in March, he said, Everyone give me the
Hitler salute, to pledge allegiance, and we deconstructed
this at the time that photo was taken from behind. Yeah, taken
from behind up high. And it looked like people were doing a
Heil Hitler. Yeah, but they pretty much were not. I mean,
there's that is, but yeah, and it's interesting, because the
whoever's in the line producer on Brooke show. It takes a
second but then says clearly to Brooke, and in fact, I'll
emulate that. Hey, wait a minute is that may not be true. Like
fact checking on the fly, quite impressive.
Give the Nazi salute, which he did at a rally in March. That's
not a good idea. In July, I think. In March, he asked his
supporters to raise and pledge their support to his candidacy.
That's true, but it was not the Nazi salute, and promised to
vote for him. There's plenty of videos that plenty of video not
showing. And then of course, in July, he retweeted an image of
his opponent with these six pointed Jewish star on it. I
thought that was a
mistake, also known as the Star of David, you numbskull. But we
have six pointed Jewish star. I think I think that's anti
semitic right there. I think so. The six pointed Jewish
star on it. I thought that was a mistake. But we have bigger
problems here. Also in July, you know, he's elected as vice
president, the most homophobic man in American public life, a
person who believes
I love that the most homophobic man really in America,
videos like that. And then of course, in July, he retreated to
his opponent with these
sticks up.
He says, there's a video behind that. What do you need a video
for? He has it he says he appointed the motion to
homophobic and there's a video a video of what proof
Wait a Jewish star on it. I thought that was a mistake. But
we have bigger problems here. Also in July, you know, he's
elected as vice president, the most homophobic man in American
public life, a person who believes that gay people
actually do not have the right to exist. And then
I thought you'd like that one. Yeah, Mike Pence. Apparently, as
feels that white gay people do not have the right to exist.
We're gonna I'm gonna share a video for that. I know. But I
have to deconstruct the whole aids, conversion therapy again,
which we'll do in a minute. But first this is just continues to
continue to list
and then you know, if you don't want support the All right,
don't choose as a White House counselor, counselor, a man who
uses the word nigger, whose wife says that he did not want his
daughters to go to a school with
now this is why this is why I pulled this clip now. Because
here's a white man using the N word and freaks out about it.
That
she does but I think right when he says it, that's when you
should do if we knew what we had to do as a new sound effect
which is a counter click, click click because it takes forever
or who for her to come around to realizing that she has to do
something. And you can just omit you can start counting down from
the when he uses will do that you should will
do that. It did not want his daughters to go
to let's go back no further.
I've says that he
did not want
says that he did not now
what is this? Come on where a man who uses the word nigger?
1000 wife says that he did not.
She says Wow. She said that almost immediately. You hear her
go? Wow. Within two seconds. So she heard
that she does put a stop to it. Yeah, daughters to go to a
school with too many Jews. And don't choose as an attorney
general man who calls the NAACP and unAmerican organization and
who we learned in The Guardian today, though, when so far is
the process. Just
hang on a second. I appreciate you going through all of this.
But please don't use the N word on my show. I'm
sorry. Well, I never used the N word except when I'm quoting
someone who's been appointed by the President to serve in the
Oval Office since this is such a disgusting moment.
So Brooke was clearly you know, she was clearly affected by this
and then at the end of the segment here's what she said she
was crying John's she was really had tears. She was tearing up
how do you
Alright gentlemen? I'm gonna, we're done. We're done. With
your voices. I am still the more I've sat here and listened to
the fact that somebody use the N word on the show. My show it is
not okay. It is not respect you. I enjoy having you on as a guest
but not okay. By the way. The claim that Mr. Bannon use the N
word. I've never heard of this. Oh, so there's that. Oh, maybe
it's fake news. Sounds like big news to me. Yeah, hold on. Don't
talk him. My jingles man Oh my god. Fake news we got the new
jingle we
have a whole boatload. I'm just gonna play each one as we go
through fake news. Okay,
I mean, we get out which is the best. I liked the little.
No, I thought that what was the other one? There was a well, I
mean, what we see here this is these are people who produce our
show and have a lot of creativity. They don't have a
lot of chops, but I'm I appreciate all of it. Hey, you
read that I'm still not sure why there's a puking sound and a
ping pong ball at the end of that.
Well, no. Now I think you called me out for mentioning something
about what you think might discourage us. I think my
criticism of the first fake news jingles something? A creator
needs to know I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no, you're just gonna be
selected.
I'm sorry. Don't Don't take it wrong. No, absolutely. And we
have to give feedback. Absolutely. Otherwise, you're
naked. So
they wonder why didn't they pick mine? Right? Because this other
one's better.
All right. I like this one, though. I thought that was
pretty good. Okay, so now we move on to some more racism
stuff, because, hey, the racism is what we do in America. Howard
Dean, one of those moments, once again, goes on foreign
television, thinking no one else see that I can say whatever I
want to say here
is a complicated guy. He appoints a reasonable person
who's much more conservative than I am. But for somebody you
can talk to to his chief of staff and then a senior adviser
to the Nazi. I mean, you know, hang on. This is interesting.
You're talking about Reince Priebus is the chairman of the
Republican National Poll. Right? Right. He's now his chief of
staff, right, Steve Bannon who ran something called Breitbart
News, which is a far right anti semitic publication. You call
them a Nazi? Well, he's anti semitic, he's anti black. And
he's anti women like to throw around this word.
That's I mean, I can't imagine he has any friends. I mean, who
the hell is left? anti semitic anti women, anti black.
makes him a Nazi. That's child's anti civil. He's not none of his
necessarily true. No, I don't think he's anti women. I don't
tell us anything. No. But how does it even if he was how does
that make him a Nazi, which would be this Socialist Party of
Germany in the 1930s?
Well, this Scandanavian actually does delve in a little bit. He's
really I think he's a little shocked and rightly so. You call
them a Nazi? Well,
he's anti semitic, he's anti black, and he's anti women.
People like to throw around this word knacks. It's pretty big
word. It's a big word. I don't usually use it unless somebody's
really enticing unless I'm in Canada. I think no one's gonna
black. And he's anti women. People like to throw around this
word nats it's pretty big word. It's a big word. I don't usually
use it unless somebody's really anti semitic really misogynist.
You really. I mean, again, look at you look at go look at
Breitbart News. I have make up your own mind. All right, what
you know, some will say look, Donald Trump's daughter married
Steve Kushner, he's
an Orthodox Jewish guy. How do you square the circle? That's a
very good question. I have no idea how he square
circle maybe you're delusional Howard Dean. Maybe that's why
delusional delusional? I have no idea no idea how he squares that
circle. What does that even mean square the circle?
Square. The circle, of course is a reference to rest professional
wrestling. Oh, I didn't know this. Well, you square the
circle as you know. They have all the they have this cage
matches which are often in a form or they actually this
squared, the circles of the squares the ultimate fighting.
They have this circle of things, but they talked about squaring
the circle in boxing and wrestling with me so often.
Where it comes from. Okay. Well, here is an actual case of
racism. That I was very surprised by. And we have a new
face on CNN. I like this girl. BC Her name is Simone Sanders.
Have you seen her anywhere? No.
Okay, Simone Sanders. Let me see. Well, she's a she's a new
CNN correspondent.
She's the book of knowledge. She's probably in there.
We can probably Simone Sanders, I had it written down I just
can't find my my link. Here we go. Oh, she was Bernie Sanders
press secretary. There you go. doesn't
have much he only hires people with the same last name, I
guess.
how that worked out. And so of course, you know, she's, she's
mad mad about getting screwed over by the Democratic Party.
Mad as Hell. Yeah, Ben, she's not gonna take any longer but
enter the racism.
Howard Dean Howard Dean. You know, Howard Dean was there for
that 50 state strategy. But here's the issue. Howard Dean is
also on record maligning young King poll and millennials tell
them those Bernie folks, they just need to get in line and
maligning Bernie Sanders. And that is not what we need, in my
opinion. We don't need white people leaving the Democratic
Party right now the Democratic Party is diverse. And it should
be reflected as so in our leadership and throughout the
staff at the the highest levels, from the vice chairs, to the
secretaries all the way down to the people working in the
offices at the DNC. I think we need to have a robust discussion
about this. And I think we need to hear more from all the
candidates, Jamie Harrison in South Carolina. He's great, too.
He has done real party building, but everybody doesn't
necessarily know Jamie, and they want to know what it is that he
stands for. So I want to hear more from everybody. I'm here
for the millennials and the brown folk.
You know, to say, racism,
that's Did I not say this is actual racism to say, we don't
need white people in the Democratic Party, because
obviously, there is a difference in skin color. And white people
are different, and not good enough to lead the Democratic
Party. Yeah, that's how you said I mean, come on.
Yeah, so she's extremely racist. This
very race technically race. Yeah. Technically racist. Yes.
So very surprising. Now, here's a little bit longer clip which
has the race has everything in it. And it's going it's going
big ly viral on the face bags, big li big li viral on the face
bags.
Gonna get a tattoo that says that this is test test Rafferty,
then
maybe you would know that's Rafferty. Okay, what about her?
Okay, she
is a writer for the soup.
And, and like the other Comedy Central shows, like the you
know, some of the roasts so she's a comedy.
He's a writer. What? She's a woman. She's a comedy writer.
She does one liners,
okay. Okay, do you already don't like her? I can tell.
I thought you would like it being particularly good. Mimi
probably knows. Don't you guys know all the comments of the
comedians a comic writers, you
guys some of these up and comers. Where did you were
dated? Okay,
so she does a video which is released under occupied
Democrats. And I've been it's a little longer than ninyo than
our Two Minute kind of Max. But holy moly, this really shows you
the delusional thinking and everyone's hallucinating and
delusional right now. And I can show that on both sides, which
we'll do during this program to help everyone deconstruct
themselves but listen to this.
I am so damn tired. I'm trying to see it from the other side.
I'm trying to discuss it
maybe I should just set up this. The setting is her in. It looks
like a large recording studio, but it's dark. It's black and
white. She has like a sheet note holder in front of her but
that's with with her her speech that she's doing here. So it's
very stylish.
It's like a musician's thing.
Yes. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Musicians music Stan, you might
want to issue cute if you want me to take a look at I'm looking
at it. Yeah, sure. Now, yeah, okay, good. Well, then you have
the whole Sarah Silverman type.
Yes. Not so bony looking. You know,
it's Gestalt.
Yeah, well, yes, Gestalt? Indeed.
I am so damn tired of trying to see it from the other side. I'm
trying to discuss nuance while they paint us in our candidates
with the broadest of hateful brushes. I'm trying to pretend
somehow reasonable.
I do want to interrupt the whole thing.
I'm sorry, but it's hard to get by some of these comments okay.
What bothered you there in the first eight seconds
talking about broad brushstrokes in fact that John Stuart cup
that you play with it the the premise of it was that we we as
Democrat liberals to condemn the Republicans for painting Muslims
with broad brushstrokes, but we do the same thing with Trump by
calling everyone who voted for him a racist and a bully to it.
Exactly. And so she's denied she's in denial about that
immediately.
Correct. You are sir.
I am so damn tired of trying to see it from the other side. I'm
trying to discuss nuance while they paint us in our candidates
with the broadest of hateful brushes. I'm tired of pretending
like it's somehow reasonable to teach creationism in public
schools with my tax dollars. While you tell me that to same
sex people who love each other getting married somehow
threatens your marriage. You voted for Trump. I am tired of
trying to see things your way while you sit in your holier
than thou churches slash white power meetups, refusing to see
things mine.
Wow. Why you sit in your chair to me if we need to slash white
power meetups.
Holy mackerel. What a bigot. It ain't over. Yeah, boy.
Did I just want you in with white supremacist? No, you did
that to yourselves. You voted for the same candidate as the K
K K. You voted for a candidate endorsed by the kk k for the
rest of your life. You have to know that you voted the same way
as the K K K. Does that feel good to you? Here's a hint it
really shouldn't especially if you call yourself a Christian or
This is another Google they just keep bringing back the kk k. And
you know, you have to disavow you can just disavow you have to
get on a box on a tower with a megaphone and disavow. But even
that may not be enough. It's insane. I'm tired
of pussyfooting around what offends your morals while
couching what offends mine? Because racism and homophobia
and misogyny and xenophobia offend mine? Let me say it right
here. If you voted for Trump, I do think you're a racist. I do
think you're homophobic. I do think you're a misogynist.
There you go. There's your generalization you're lumping
together,
racism and homophobia and misogyny are all a spectrum and
you're on it. Oh, it's all a spectrum,
a whole
that's new. That's new. And it doesn't make sense.
Well, we have a spectrum, which is the spectrum where we have
where we Where's everything on
the spectrum is what autism has a spectrum of autism is a single
thing. You could say massage and he has a spectrum.
You know, it's all on the spectrum, baby. It's on the
spectrum.
Say racism has a spectrum. You can't put the three of those and
say they combined have a zero sense. You just thrown it out
there on the spectrum of
aihole.
Okay, yes, racism and homophobia and misogyny are all a spectrum
and you're on it. Don't like getting painted with a broad
brush of racism. Now you know what it feels like when you get
told that you want to rip a baby out of a mother's womb at nine
months when that's not what happens. That's never what
happens.
Okay, so people who are pro life want to the think that pro
choice rip babies out of wombs at nine months. Just kind of
graphic.
Well, she's also she's very Anyway, go on. Just keep
playing. I try not to keep no
please do not. Please do not interrupt when you feel
appropriate. It's okay
with a baby out of a mother's womb at nine months when that's
not what happens. That's never what happened.
Hold on a second. Not that you want to keep interrupting. Why
is she even doing this video? Who's it for? And why did she do
it again? Why did she do it? Oh, it
will do there is a conclusion. And oh, okay. Yeah, there's a
conclusion.
You'll love it. Yeah, my mother's womb at nine months
when that's not what happens. That's never what happens. I
tried to be polite for now. I just don't give a damn because
let's be honest, we don't live in polite America anymore. We
live in grabbing by the pussy American.
I like that. The Hell yeah. And that's true. Every everywhere
you go the punch line is grabbing by the pussy. That's I
mean, we do live in grabbing by the pussy America. Let's
be honest. I don't live in Kuwait America anymore. We live
in grabbing by the pussy America now. So thank you for that.
Being polite, was exhausting. And don't come out with how you
just didn't like Hillary. This was bigger than Hillary.
Second Stop, stop. And I and I'm really reluctant to keep
interrupting. No, this is the point of playing the whole but
she made she makes a point that it was difficult and exhausting.
Be polite. She's naturally rude. Yeah. Yes, exactly.
It was so exhausted. It. Thank you. That's a good point.
It makes a lot of work to be polite. And I don't like doing
it anymore. I'm going to just be my normal rude self. And she is
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Let's get back to the clip. Yes,
wow.
digression everybody.
And don't come out and with how you just didn't like Hillary.
This was bigger than Hillary. This wasn't your standard. I
just want lower taxes and smaller government and publican.
We had Germans warning aspect this guy was scary.
The German said this guy is scary.
This is a bigoted comment. Yeah, he takes the Germans and puts
them in a special position of a bunch by being a holes and even
a hole. Let's be honest,
when it comes to being in a hall, the Germans, they they,
they got to take the crown.
She this is what we this is a great example of incredible kind
of unconscious because she doesn't know what she's doing
now. bigotry, yes.
And, and it has the ultimate sanctimonious smugness in it.
Because everything's ammonius. smug. Joe, this guy
was scary. And still you cried emails or Benghazi or that
voice. And so there's been mountains of evidence proving
that nothing that you think Hillary did was that big of a
deal or even true. Some of the finest minds in a world have
drawn you graphs and charts proving that no crimes were
actually committed, and you were either too dumb or too willfully
ignorant to care. If you really cared about crimes.
If you're dumb, dumb dummy, you're dumb. Dummies, dummies,
crimes were actually committed, and you were either too dumb or
too willfully ignorant to care. And if you really cared about
crimes, you care about any of the three pending against your
candidate. Take your pick, I'd start with the rape of a 13 year
old girl, but if you voted for Trump, you probably don't care
much what happens to women. Doesn't matter. Anyway, she
received so many death threats from your political peers that
she dropped the charges.
Wow, man. So just say
hey, like 20 years ago, some of this was a very sketchy case has
been
and I warned everyone that was going to happen and that it
would all go under Jane Doe and would all be dropped exactly
what
happened. Oh, her name is she apparently she had tried to suit
in Los Angeles where her name was actually revealed. Yeah. And
it was, it was like a shoo shoo in for like, 70 grand or some
really small amount to a real attorney got a hold of her.
Well, Gloria alread Yeah. So now we're gonna sue familiares and
of course, and that's how you GLORIA
how alright. All right. All right. All right. Yeah. She
doesn't give up a case unless she knows she's not going to win
it.
She exact does. She's
a she's a hound man. Her bison. Alright, Kenji
asked me again, when more women don't come forward. And speaking
of smaller,
I'll ask you When more women don't come forward, okay. But
ask me again, when
more women don't come forward. And speaking of smaller
government, and lower taxes, enjoy not getting mine. If Trump
actually does what he says he's going to do, then your petty
backward state and your small angry towns can pay for your own
school to not educate your children. I live in California,
the largest economy in the United States and the sixth
largest in the world. We'll be fine.
You're broke? Me, you'd be fine. Good. You're broke
live in California and the largest economy in the United
States and the sixth largest in the world, we'll be fine. But
have fun affording all those children hot holes, largest
economy in the United States and the sixth largest in the world,
we'll be fine. But have fun affording all those children
your health insurance won't pay for your birth control to
prevent. Just kidding, you're not going to have insurance.
Well, Backpage is great again. The truth is that for those of
us on this side, there is no one all this is over. Things are
just getting started. We think last Wednesday was bad. We don't
know what that is yet. This isn't something you get over.
This is something you endure, we're going to face attacks on
every right we fought the last 60 years to gain the deck is so
stacked against us, we may not win, the best we can hope for is
gridlock. And that's just nationally, internationally. Who
the fuck knows what this lunatic is going to do? And the scarier
thought is that the only thing worse than this guy is the guy
who's one angry tweet away from the presidency, Mike Pence
advocate for gay conversion therapy and mandatory funerals
for fetuses. So now's the time, you might want to see things
from my side. Because if we're all gonna have to be friends
after this, I imagine me having to be polite and respect your
vote to take away my rights and freedoms and those of my
friends. Well, we'll fight desperately to try to hang on to
them. Because that was what you did. There
you go join the resistance and what you did.
That's what you did that did that. Yes. And now imagine
that's trying to be friends. Can't imagine what is the point
of this? Why would she do something like this is dumb?
I think it's part narcissistic. Oh, part? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I
think it's part North narcissistic. The, what I wanted
to read is The see I think this is it.
I need to deconstruct once again, what Mike Pence said
yes, I am going to remind the, the producers and listeners that
don't help us that we have to do this more often than not couple
of two or three times because nobody gets it the first time or
it keeps coming up in the conversation. That's what
bothers me the most because it's so obviously
bogus. Yeah, And
you'd have the stage my friend,
I have the stage. Okay. It all stems from the publication which
is linked in the show notes. 880 dot no agenda notes.com Find
them. all@archive.no agenda notes.com. This is Mike Pence
for Congress, the pence agenda for the 107. Congress. So this
is from 2000 for the 2001.
election. And in this pence agenda, he has a
here we go, because under the heading strengthening the
American family the following, and this is what this is all
based on now. I'll ask you again, John, what exactly is he
being accused of when it comes to LGBTQ plus rights?
He thinks they should all die. Yeah. And he thinks that the
conversion therapy is what we should use our taxpayer money to
fund. It's even worse, it was divert funds from HIV, right?
Monies version thereof
to conversion therapy, okay, now, and people were quoting
this in emails to me and then misquoting it in their
interpretation is unbelievable. You people really need to work
on reading and understanding and, and words matter. Here we
go. Congress should support the reauthorization of the Ryan
White Care Act, only after completion of an audit, to
ensure that federal dollars, were no longer being given to
organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors
that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus. That's the first
part. Now, the way this is interpreted the way I've the
people literally copying this quote, and then saying, what
does that mean? Organizations that celebrate and encourage the
spreading of HIV AIDS. But that's not what it says. It
says, federal dollars will no longer be given to organizations
that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that
facilitate the spreading of aid the HIV virus. Now, you can
interpret that any way you want, because that's your truth. And
that's what's in your mind. He could easily be drug use many
different types of organizations. He has it,
obviously he doesn't like homosexuality. That's his right.
But everyone in this in our country has rights. The Ryan
White Care Act, which he says should be reauthorized is
specifically intended for to give treatment to HIV victims.
So he's talking about organizations that he feels
there should be a a line with his own convictions, that it
should be organizations that I guess in this case, purely
medical, but it certainly is not talking about organizations that
celebrate and encourage the spreading of the HIV virus,
which I see you written over and over again, the second and last
part, resources should be directed, not redirected, should
be directed towards those institutions, which provide
assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior.
That does not mean if you don't want to be gay. That could mean
promiscuity that, again, could be drug use. It could be a whole
bunch of things. But it's in your mind how you want to
interpret that. But for sure, it doesn't say redirect funds, and
for sure, it doesn't say conversion theory direct is not
there now, and it doesn't say conversion therapy.
Yeah, conversion therapy is never mentioned. Again, you can
people just reading into it.
Yes, it is complete delusion.
I'm not taking away from anyone's belief or what they
think words mean. But that's it. This is what this is all about.
And from this, I mean, in that video, which you didn't see,
when the when she was talking about conversion therapy, they
cut to a screenshot of a page scrolling by and then zoom in on
the words conversion therapy as if it is if you wrote that
this is this is that you know what that is? That's fake news.
Yeah, that's fake news,
fake news fake news. Wait for the hook.
They do it all because they need that native ad money.
It's a good one fabulous. Long.
Yeah. Well, I should mention the previous one was Mr. K bacon.
This was Josh skin. Josh skin who did that one and gosh,
Josh. Oh, Cleveland. Exactly.
Yeah. So this is just being peddled off as true. True, true.
True. True. True. True. And I'm sorry, I am just not reading the
same thing you're reading. It certainly is not if that's if
that's all there is. That's not a lot to really do call this guy
the things that he is he I'm sure he he is.
He's the most hateful homophobe in the country ever in public
life
in public life.
Very sad to report the end of Tim Allen's career.
I always liked him. I always thought it was a cool guy.
But it's a melon do now.
The ultimate sin here he is first of all, he went on Megyn
Kelly show that already puts you on the on a shitload. You're on
the watch on the watch list. But then you do this.
I'm not a spokesman probably what I'm a comedian. So I get to
tour around the country and I do comedy and to do a show that
leans we have a point of view. I think character is a
conservative point of view. But it's written by liberals we have
a liberal staff we have a thing that's that's redundant, but
they're they we have a sense of humor about ourselves.
That was so funny.
What I didn't even get the joke. What does she say?
About comedy writers being liberals is redundant, which is
Jen, she she I'm telling you she thought that was
hilarious. Odds are someone wrote that for her then I guess.
No, I think this is one of her one liners that she has waiting,
you know, oh, that's just redundant. It's like, I'm sorry.
We
should we should give her some Confucius say.
It'd be cool if she's and she just popped it out and said
Plato say that'd
be cool. We have a point of view. I think your character is
a conservative point of view. But it's written by liberals, we
have a liberal staff, we
have a thing that's,
that's redundant. But there,
we have a sense of humor about ourselves. And there's a point
of view and there's a place to do what I think is what I find
odd in Hollywood is that they didn't like Trump because he was
a bully. But if you side if you had any kind of inkling that you
were pro Trump, you got bullied for doing that. And that's where
this it gets a little hypocritical to me is that you
can now bully people and you're always on the defense with this.
But mostly what I'm finding is there's no source material for
comedians or like if I want to find a joke on the show, we go
up river to find the joke, and there's no like this. He was
against homosexual somehow. And I said where do you whoever,
whoever said that? And he didn't he waved the flag at the
convention. Yeah, the lbtt flag. And I said that was an unusual
gotta be
with Mike Pence on that. But Donald Trump with a close
associates to him, I don't see it. And so he's I'm, I can't
make a joke about it. I feel like we're playing that game. I
played them as a kid and telephone. Did you ever play
that in high school? Or would you say something at the
beginning? And that's what's happening? It's only funny to
me, because I'm a comedian. I can do this. But it's very
difficult in Hollywood to find anybody any source material that
would
well how are you surviving there as somebody who's you know, you
know, on TV as a concern, myself is open to ideas, because there
are live actors. I know many of them who are part of the
Hollywood conservative underground and they do not mean
right at all.
I like, I'm really an anarchist. That's that's how I look at as
comedians, I don't like anybody telling me what to do.
People still objected that if they find that you support Trump
at all, it's like you, you smell bad.
Believe me, I've had these. They're not even discussions,
you get bullied into a position. I don't want to defend the guy I
came. He said stupid stuff. To me. Sometimes he acts like a new
talent comedian. If you've ever been to a new talent show at a
comedy, there's guys that have great material that have very,
very bad comedy timing. And he's got terrible timing. When you
meet him. He says stuff that could be George Lopez and I
doubt GEORGE He said a joke about it. He was against the
wall. years ago on stage. It was real funny about we got to build
a wall. I'm Forgive me, George. I bet the Mexicans will have to
build it. Then that was the joke. Donald says it or the
expectant president, President elect Trump expected so we kind
of weird wouldn't it? Well, but he does sometimes he doesn't say
things. I give him the benefit of doubt a lot of comedians, we
watch it okay. If you just gap that a little bit. It might have
been funny, and he may in fact be a guy that wants to be
funnier than he is
so interesting perspective than what he says A is He said I
wanted to make up jokes about him hating gays, but I go
looking for the source material. And guess what? It's not there.
Haha. Now is that that's not necessary though if you do write
jokes to all comedians do that it doesn't seem right.
Well, I mean, you can be Sarah Silverman who I brought up
earlier and just do material about his being. Trump being
anti gay without the material just make it out. Right. Right.
Well, but I think he was just trying to make a point. Like
everyday researchers there, Joe.
I agree. I agree. He's making a point.
Then he also said, Well, you know, if you get bullied, you
get bullied. Oh, yeah. Exactly what you said. Yeah.
You guys are bullies. So you like Trump? He's a misogynist.
He's a Zeno phobe? It was a bio you a misogynist? Are you a
xenophobic?
I always liked your show, Tim. Especially since I am nice. Hey,
well, apparently he doesn't ever show anymore. He's just on the
road. He's got money in the bank, I hope.
Finally here, bar, former Congressional Black staffer,
Angela re on the CNN stratics party seeks
to divide and keep this keep this country guessing for them
playing for them. And the Republican Party wants to have
people with their eyes on the horizon, achieving as much as
they can. And that's what Donald Trump represents. When you look
at the New York City skyline use this as a Trump supporter,
obviously see achievement. You see Donald Trump's achievement,
he wants every American to be able to achieve the same thing
the Democratic Party doesn't
equal on them.
No on the backs of poor people, Jonna has to respond to this on
the backs of poor people. You're talking about a Donald Trump
that refuse to pay contract, you're just talking about a
Donald Trump who used immigration laws and abused
immigration laws to build these same buildings. You're just you
just compared what Democrats have done whatever that is to
slavery, are you you're saying
to slavery, Democrats have slave drivers? Aha, historically,
yeah. And
whatever that is, to slavery, are you you're saying that
Democrats and the fact that people are not who and what they
should be they haven't been able to economically thrive in this
country, you're comparing them to slaves. If you want to talk
about that, let's talk about economic inequality. And what
your candidate is going to do to address some of that part of the
real issue here, Carl, is the fact that he won't denounce
white supremacy and tell white folks how many days you will
know he has it. No, he hasn't. And that's how he uses
everything else. But until he goes on a platform and says,
This is not the path for our future, we will not be able to
benefit off of the backs of course, and continue to push
this type of racist propaganda. We need to call it for what it
is the very people who you're talking about who you think are
looking for free gifts and handouts are people who have
been been disenfranchised since they got off the slave ship in
this country. And until you recognize that and pay for that,
we're gonna continue to have oh, no,
we're gonna pay for it. Yeah, there
should be reparations action.
Well, you stepped on it. It's exactly what you want.
Yeah, there should be reparations. I'm happy to have
that conversation. But I'm sorry. On Americans, oh, there's
nothing on American about reparations.
reparations. I think some people outside of the United States of
Gitmo nation may want to understand what that's about.
Reparations, Professor Dvorak.
It's paying. It's It's like as if you That's it, there's a lot
of ways it can it there's a lot of ways you can define it. But
it seems to me that the major definition they're working with
is the idea that 40 acres and because of no because of
slavery, every generation since the Mansa patient proclamation
by Lincoln, ever since then, they have been disadvantaged
because of the original situation. And they've been
disadvantaged in such a way that it can actually actually be
determined in a monetary sense that they're owed money or being
screwed over systematically by the system by the by the
government and they should get paid at compensation, which is
referred to as reparations. It makes some sort of sense in some
way. It's just problematic because so many years have gone
by and there's a lot
but not only for that, I mean, if that were possible, then why
can't transgendered Americans say reparations have been
screwed? They
could. They could. Yeah, well, that's the big fear because
almost everybody the Irish when they first came over were hated
against horribly did Yes. And they you could make a case for
reparations for everybody in the Boston area.
I think it was only the redheads only the ginger Irish because
you know, they have no soul. Yeah,
so Are you that kid have all these cases made for reparations
for everything, pretty much. You went to a crappy school, which
is very possible, especially in today's day and age and you had
any ended with a big student loan debt, because your
situation screwed. You're screwed. reparations are in play
handouts.
Okay, yes. Not fair. Not fair pay me I got treated unfairly.
Okay. Hey, that's
why before I'm just gonna go nowhere, because if that ever
happened, it would be a nightmare. I mean, the whole
image is bankrupt to come the country.
And I had a thought the other night. You know, a lot of people
still probably don't know the history of slavery, and that
there was the Republican Party, Abraham Lincoln, in particular,
the leader of the country at the time, who, you know, the
Republican who said, We got to stop slavery, and the Democrats
in
the Republican party came out of the abolitionist movement.
Yes, thank you. That's even better. And so Republicans were
the abolitionist Democrats were the racist slaveholding. eight
holes. Yes. Okay. Now somewhere along the line that switched,
and Republican
Johnson is believed.
Okay, I'll finish the sentence. So somewhere along the line that
switched, and then all of a sudden Democrats became the high
and mighty and Republicans became the misogynistic, racist,
the anti semitic and belittle the horrible people. Yeah, you
said this came out of LBJ.
And that's the thought Yeah, LBJ made a bit had some recordings
actually where he said that we can
we can mix in Southern strategy wasn't that wasn't that part of
that
that was taken advantage of what what LBJ was doing LBJ with his
war on poverty decided that he could set up he believed he was
setting up a system that would make the blacks vote Democratic
for the next 1000 years. And there's some recording of him
talking about this. And when that happened, the Republicans
who are kind of screwed because they're doing the switcheroo.
And so they went to the Southern strategy to pull all these
Democrats that were down there who are racists, the Dixiecrats
make them Republicans through code code words and the like,
supposedly, and now I think the Republicans are pulling another
quick one to get the working class to be Republicans. Well, I
think that's been happening for a number of years. Why has to
because the Democrats have gone toward the yuppies and they've
been the white collar workers, they hang out with the bankers
and their Wall Street oriented, they don't give a crap about the
workers and they've just been coasting on the union support.
And so that is easy enough to steal and so I think Republicans
are the only one to notice you could do this and he's the one
who did it. And now the Republicans are thinking about
maybe making this switch the irony to this because I've
thought about this with the Republicans switching over or
the I'm sorry the working class lower middle middle so on
switching to be all Republicans this makes me think that Norman
Lear and it here's a very interesting irony the All in the
Family Show had Archie Bunker as a as a working class guy,
probably a union guy who was a Republican. It was based zero
sense, especially during that era because there wasn't a guy
like that my family was this way my dad was kind of an Archie
Bunker type character not in the racist way but in just a visa
working class dyed in the wool Democrat you know always gonna
vote party line. And that's the way all these people were but
somehow Lee or decided to make him a Republican. That way he
could. He could make the connection that Republicans are
racist, xenophobic, and all the rest of it, which has been
drummed into the Democrats heads because Archie Bunker was, but
there was no such guy as Archie Bunker. They never existed.
There was no Republican working guy like Archie Bunker was bull
crap.
So I wouldn't say that that's where the switch happened was
Archie Bunker this
which may have begun, because it was like you're watching this
guy. I think it was a mistake. Because you're watching this guy
and you had some was just a working class guy watching
comedies going, huh? I kind of think like that too, is you guys
bonehead meathead. Whoever's got nicknames for the kid who was
just a tub thumping, you know, radical. And, you know, check
out the Republicans if the Republicans were never open to
it until now. And now I think they're going to steal that
entire
part of the election. That is that is exactly where I was
going is it feels like with this election, people will eventually
wake up because you can't keep going on and you're in this loop
of hallucination forever. No, and people wake up and say hold
on a second. The Democrats are racist. I feel there's a there's
a crossover here. I think it's gone by we won't Notice this for
years, probably but I believe this is the cross the turning
point.
It could be. But when you have like that clip, you played that
bigoted comedy writer going on and on with hate as it was
essentially hate speech as Hey, I just hate you have to start
thinking to yourself, Wait a minute, how can you know you're
pointing the finger but you're exhibiting all these qualities
you're complaining about? It reminds me of that Dutch saying
that you've achieved thank yourself, me to the health.
Exactly. You are what you say you are, you know, you are what
you say they are. Yeah. Which is more often true than not.
Yeah. So you call somebody a racist, you're racist.
So this all fits under the header for me the civil war that
we are now in the United States. And luckily, it's a civil war
that's being fought out on face bag, mainly. So we're pretty
safe.
Yeah, it's like, you know, people are getting into a purse
fight. Yeah, but man purse. But still,
you know, it's, it's tricky. It's tricky. You know, it's
very, it's very, it's very difficult to speak with people.
And this is impossible. It really is. Yeah. So this is a
form of cognitive dissonance. But what I found here is a clip
from Jonathan Haidt, that's the professor who you had talking
about how the millennials became so safe Spacey. The one you put
in the newsletter, that guy? Yeah, yeah, I like him. And what
he does is, he's taking it, I think, to the logical next step,
let's just put all the racism and all that stuff behind us,
what is happening, we have rising nationalism, then we've
seen this, arguably, that's what Brexit was about. I think,
arguably, that's what the Trump election is about. And, and you
know, he is a professor of ethical leadership at New York
University. I'd like to play this clip of him on the
psychology behind the rising nationalism, which is, I
believe, responsible for I know, the friction over it is
responsible for the civil war that we're in right now.
So the story that I tell is one in which in a sense, the
globalists or the left started it or I should say they did
things that amplified the conflicts. So we have to ask,
why, why. And even in Scandinavia, why are the really
successful, prosperous democracies? Why are they having
the same issues of right wing reaction? And I think what you
have to do is see, globalization doesn't just change our
economies, it changes the next generation of people. So young
people who are raised in peace and prosperity, developed
values, that shift to the left, that is they begin to care about
women's rights, animal rights, gay rights, the environment. So
you get this very progressive set of values in the next
generation. So the generation fought World War Two, they were
tough, and they were changed by that in many profound ways. But
their children come out caring, not much about nationalism and
patriotism, but much more about women's rights and other issues
far away. So that's beautiful in many ways. But it creates a
generation that really is anti nationalist, anti patriotic, and
I think the anthem here is John Lennon's song Imagine. But you
know what, a lot of people maybe more than half in any country
have a very different psychology. They don't find this
beautiful, they find this basically, a commitment to
eliminate many of the things that they love most their
nation, their culture, their sense of identity, globalist
have to understand that all over the world, they're doing things
that trigger an authoritarian reaction.
And what is it that you think is the outcome of this new division
of globalists versus the nationalists? Because there
appears to be a sense of not just acute polarization, but
actually intolerance on both sides?
Yes, I think there are two disastrous outcomes. Two things
I'm very, very worried about for my country. And for all the
western democracies, it's the same thing. One is identity
politics on the left has been brewing for a long time. I've
been a professor since 1995, at the University of Virginia, and
now New York University. And so I've watched identity politics
gets stronger and stronger, more focus on matrices of oppression,
straight white males have this straight white males have that.
And after a while, as I forget, who pointed out in the current
election, you keep treating white men. As an identity group,
you keep saying they're terrible, they're evil. And
eventually, they become just like another identity group. And
they voted their racial interest in a sense, you might say. So
identity politics on the left, eventually triggers identity
politics on the right.
Now, what's interesting is I picked this up from the Stanford
professors face bag page. Then he actually had a comment
saying, Well, the interesting perspective
which is good. Yeah, well, maybe
he'll talk to you again, someday. I
doubtful. You're a civil war expert. Are there any parallels?
So you studied the Civil War? I did? Yes. You're not an expert
you studied. And while you're more expert than I probably drew
any parallels between what we're seeing right now with this
cultural divide?
I wouldn't say probably is very similar. I don't think this is
this is even new. I think you could trace, trace this back
through the John Birch Society of the 1950s. On virtually
everywhere in between. And I just I just think it's just
shows up in the news more. I've never been a believer that
anything that we're witnessing is new.
And I would wager, that was really social media. That is,
I think that social media has amplified the problem. Really?
Yeah.
There's no doubt about that. I do.
I do have about why you just played that guy. I had to play I
had.
I had a little on trauma and to move to your clip.
I just better to play the clip first, I think, okay, because
it's about what he just said, Okay. I think the trauma would
be good for moving on to something new. That's what I was
my plan. This is a couple of there's a there was a thing on C
span, I'm watching C span and NBC pretty much exclusively you
see booked TV book, TVs got some good stuff going.
Book, TV always has good stuff. And this is about Western
civilization. There's a couple professors that came on. And he
pointed out something interesting. First, let's just
play the guy from he's the guy from tech ed professor at Texas
Tech, one of the few schools it turns out, that actually teaches
Western civilization anymore. I was unaware of this, until I
listened to these two guys bitch about it. But the
times when you kind of speak in defense of Western civilization,
the comeback is that you're being ethnocentric. You're not
being inclusive, you're not kind of taking in the whole global
scene in which all of humanity is present. And I think that
actually reflects a profound misunderstanding about Western
civilization, and what it has become, and the misunderstanding
is this, to the extent that one can talk about there being a
global civilization, about there being something that embraces
and links together, all of humankind, that something is
Western civilization, which has gone global and it has gone
global because it is so powerful, because it has brought
such constructive and it liberating change to the human
condition. Western civilization is as close as anything could
possibly be to global civilization, there are really
two names at this stage of the game for the same thing. Of
course, Western civilization's roots are in a very particular
part of the world, in Europe, in the Mediterranean, and
eventually, in those places that were settled by Europeans. So if
you look at Western civilization circa say 1700, you would see
something that was still relatively confined
geographically. But if you look at Western civilization today,
it is indeed, very close to being human civilization. Now,
the reason these two guys are talking is because they've
discovered and then we play the let's play the other guy first,
then I'll explain this thing as the Yorktown professor.
Whether or not or how Western civilization is taught in our
colleges today. It's online, and you'll be able to read it, but
it is striking. It's striking evidence of the move away from
the basics of American civilization and participation
in the West, in our premier colleges and universities. When
I was an undergraduate, many years ago, I had to take two
semesters required courses in history of Western civilization.
I bought a big textbook, and it was quite burdensome. But on the
other hand, I learned something about my civilization that I
would never have known that absent that I don't know where
you're going to get this kind of information or knowledge.
These guys pointed out then the safe around 3000 major
universities in the United States. At this point, only
20 975 of them in other words, all except 25 have a course in
western civilization. They don't teach it anymore. Harvard
doesn't have it in prison doesn't have I don't even think
Cal has it over and right. They do not teach. Like the guy says
they do not teach the kids about their own civilization
at this age. Yeah, this is exactly about African
civilization.
They teach you about Muslim civilization. They teach about
all these other civilizations, but they do not teach our
civilization to our kid.
That's correct. And that is why you get groups like NPR who will
talk about after our break? Putting together? What is deemed
as white supremacist conferences?
Yeah. And worse? Yeah.
But it showed up. And I've been blaming the schools, I think one
of the themes of our show is that the schools have not taught
anybody anything. Civics is not taught like it used to be. They
can kids can't balance a checkbook, they don't know how
to get a checking account. They don't know how to be out of the
system. They're removed from it, then the whole teaching of the
civilization in which we work and live isn't each we don't
even know what it is. They don't teach it. So they can be
buffaloed into into all kinds of all kinds of stuff. lifestyles,
yes. Yes, everything is your your queer, you're here get over
it kind of thing. That's pretty much the basis of everything as
we speak.
And this of course, is what ultimately creates our cry baby
millennials.
They have no foundation that's the
millennials cry will discuss race in a safe space let the
gender chose. We must adhere to social justice are both that
your nurse is gendered why you're not us is gendered. Why
can I point something now before we go into the segment? That's
William stop. No, by the way? Yes. Very good. He's got that
lilting voice which is appropriate for saying
totally as it
so my wife comes down for Thanksgiving. She drives down
from Washington. Did she bring animals? Yeah, she brought some
animals. She also brought some some dry goods from Washington
State and you can only get a certain Stop, stop,
stop stop. One. Which animals did she bring?
She brought a big giant dog. And a couple of the dogs.
I'm going to in total? Three. Okay, and what dry goods?
stuff you could buy at these special dispensaries in
Washington? Public? Oh, that would surely be open to the
public here.
I thought you were sounded a little happy today.
No, I don't use that stuff. And I'd be mad. Watch the lights
coming in. She's so she would listen to 15 hours straight.
Have no agenda, gentlemen, listen to the show. So she is
like go to get your site going to Paris. If you haven't been
there for 10 years, and you go, Oh, this is ditching things have
changed.
Since you say hey, that shows pretty good. Let me guess,
though
she did, actually. But she made some interesting comments that I
have not she says the show is snappy or moves faster. She says
there's more inside baseball insights material that, you
know, that we take for granted. That is very confused, hard
for new people to figure out, you know, but
I told her that and we had to discuss this because I know that
we do this on purpose. I said we do it on person shows as Oh, no,
we do that on purpose. And every time I say that, she says sure
you are Yeah, I think it just evolved. But no, we do stuff on
purpose. And I said the idea of having our own language calling
people chip instead of their real name and stuff like that.
And we used to use different names from a beauty club
example. Yeah. She says there's more of that than before. And
it's very confusing. But she says the way you listen is that
you listen, what the hell is she says, What the hell are they
talking about? And then something over some something
ground and
the penny drops. And all of a sudden, it's like, Oh, I see
what exactly.
And, and I said that this is interesting, because we used to
always have this problem with new listeners where the show was
off putting for two or three shows. We did like five years
ago. So people just until they heard three shows. They didn't
like the show at all. But the thing, the feedback I get now as
I listened to once, and I was hooked. Yeah, I've had that
comment bar over.
Yeah, you're right. I think I think it's our comedic stylings
that are hooking people.
Yeah. So she's, so
it must be Plato says, You're a hook from the minute the show
starts.
Well, it's definitely a good hook at the beginning. But she's
made some observations and I paid some attention to them and
besides, it sound like he made a lot of money on their last show.
Where's my cut? Never.
What is that what she said? Yeah, I'm just kidding. You're
hoarding cash divorce.
Yeah. So but that but she says the show's over. more rapid
fire, it moves along a little bit. It's got a quicker pace.
I'm not totally convinced them all the raw observations but I'm
good I'm good to know that we were using more of our little
secret terms that are only part of the no agenda world in which
is, you know where you want to create communities and that
that's not putting people off from the show. They just put up
with it for a while like she was doing and then just eventually
it comes. Oh, okay. Oh, that's what that was about. Okay, get
it? Well, this
is good feedback. So anything we should change any? Any ideas?
She absolutely had no ideas for anything to change.
Well, in that Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, in that case. Let me thank you
for your courage and say in the morning to you John. Or the C
stands for cannabis ain't for me dude Devorah crack
anymore to you and Mr. Adam curry. He also in the morning
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on the George Bush with the big glasses, art, I think that
yeah, I think we're more than willing to do
what we appreciate it. And we appreciate everyone who supports
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turn you into producers yet. And also the F show also people who
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So we have Mark starting with that we have a bunch of the
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Not gonna happen, but I do have your your pestis, pestilential,
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Lex from Brooklyn and onward to see oh my keyboard, my keyboard
you lose it again. No, I have this tendency to put it down and
then I can't figure out where it put it. Not that this floor is
covered with crap. Dimitrios Neff, please notice, which we
constantly mispronounce
for $100.40 bucks.
I'm wondering if you both already have read Joel Kotkin 's
book The New Class conflict. It's about the conflict of the
economy that produces consumable tangible goods, manufacturing,
and the intangible world of media software and
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think I'm a knight.
Oh, he's not on the list. Oh, well, he
just thinks he's a knight. Well, he should be on the night. He
should be on the list. I believe he's, yes. He's a knight. He
doesn't give us a name to view. Oh, no. He wants to be Sir James
of cornucopia.
Yeah, so that's homage. Second me. Demetrios. Nafplio test. And
he wants to be Sir James of cornucopia, correct? Yes. Okay.
Done. It's on the list taken care of on the fly.
I decided, Oh, I skipped over an $880 donation from someone. I
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list, but we're not going to mention his name. Because he
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Okay. All right. Done. Thank you very much.
Thank you. All right.
He's got some scheme afoot. That's the reason Squiers
because yeah, we're now we're at the squire Stichting who says,
Keep doing what you're doing? This is known as his handwritten
note, nice penmanship.
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, John. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa. Night to Be Sir James with Cornucopia had three jingles one
where it didn't look as good as he wants but slam Can you see
that juice? Don't eat me Hillary Clinton. Sorry. Just Just notice
we have to do that. Oh, you got Can you see that Jews are
throwing the karma. You've got
karma. Sorry. I
completely, totally spaced on it. Was that the hookah?
Did I did Andrew Horowitz just send you the same thing he sent
me? No. He sent me a video of him sucking on the hookah
as posted on face bag. Yeah.
Done that, uh, go over. Hey, all
right. You should be listening to the show man.
hours This downloads and listens to once in a while now requires.
As note from Houston, keep doing what you're doing. He says a PS.
My wife calls you the boys. Oh, when I say something off the
wall. That's when she uses this term. She says, Did you hear
that from the boys?
Well, at least we're boys. Yeah, we'll give him a Karma course
and his wife a big karma.
You've got karma.
Blow. I used to do that with one of our producers who I know
personally who used to be a big fan of Rush Limbaugh and he
began to like, just pair it with Limbaugh said, and I'd say why'd
you hear that? I'm Limbaugh sounds like it. Yeah.
It's also it's rude. Because you know, there's not conforming to
our how we identify and our pronouns. It's not the boys,
it's Z. Did you hear that from Z? Z? Yeah. We use our pronouns.
It's rude.
As a case. Yeah. I think we got that. Tom in New Hampshire. 222
dot 22. Adam and amp. Just one of those days. We need to do
this again. Your thanks,
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Thank you. We do our best.
I think he needs a little wisdom drenched karma. What do you
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Timothy Kiernan in Plymouth, Michigan 222 dot 22. Here's one
small step for no agenda, one giant leap toward my eventual
knighthood. I've mentioned some things I'm thankful for despite
John's pet peeve about this particular holiday. I'm thankful
for no agenda, keeping me sane during 2016 and for John and
Adam working on their holidays, like today, but feel free to
take a break once in a while you've earned it after all these
years. I'm thankful for Uncle Don, who is informal and perhaps
unwitting contributions to the show have always made me look
forward to the holidays when Adam might visit him. I did buy
Don's book pot shards twice. wants to keep in one to give us
a gift it's a magnificent should be on everyone's gift list and
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literally silent the rest of the time. Yeah, you're gonna put
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play the no more Okey doke jingle based on the awesome
American funk band the meters did Adam or John ever see them
live? Not me, not me. At the end of the show, please play the
full length Bing Bong, bong, China I love China Trump song I
would also like some career karma let me also
submit the bottom and I don't want to hurt your feelings but I
feel both John's Confucius says openings and Adams beloved mic
drop endings are played out. Okay.
The Confucius say is funnier until it craps out, which will
probably be shortly but not now.
I don't have the hole, which is not our song I might add China
and China and China's not our song and I have a whole bunch of
other things for the end of the show. But I got your comments
and I'll put it together like this for you.
Okey Okey doke.
Just because, you know, it sounds funny or provocative. The
tweets are a bunch of Oh, bing, bing, bong, bong, bing, bing.
You've got
an hour or less two is Matt's cure. Kid kid. Kids was Monty
has rude kids rude in Oslo, Norway. $200. No karma for me.
I'm not worthy. He writes, please send it to serve us Giga
mon in and of Borg. Sure. His wife and their newly acquired
human resource Ella. Please add Ella to the birthday list. She
is added. And here's the karma. You've got karma. Very nice,
always nice. And our karma to someone else beautiful.
And Craig Allen is last on the list with $200. And he has
nothing here. So I'm thinking he may have an email. And I will
look it up.
Ah, okay. Well, while you're looking that up. Alan, actually
I won't do that. While you're looking at it. I can take a look
to what's his name?
Alan Craig. Ellen. Got a lot of Alan's here. That's for sure.
Here it is. He's got a sorry. And then it says read for late
donations. Sorry. I was really sorry note first. If Carmen
everyone who needs it. I am in a fight for my life. So karma is
not needed. Okay. I'm in it's what he says. And I hear it is
read for late donation. Thank you again. Sorry for the late
donation as well. It's came in and I've should put it for the
last show, I guess. Again, use what you need with my letter. ha
ha I know it too long. I'm just happy I can donate to the show,
Craig. All right. So oh, here is a long way so I never donated
for the show. For almost a year and a half. I've been in a fight
for who like Donald Trump is a silent killer but honestly, I've
been fighting lymphoma since 2015. And I wanted to donate but
my treatments with chemotherapy, my naivete with death and cancer
I've been struggling with trying to understand what type of
cancer I have. And the doctors trying to figure out how to deal
with helping me due to the rarity of my strain some Native
American American Indian whatever the masses call us, but
screw them because this has been a long fight or what I know is
that you give me motivation us to get this to get to get this
shit right now. Yeah, with more hindsight and more
understanding, though, what the hell is going on no one knows
what is going on but I want to trust your vision and
progression of what lies ahead underlying that because it's not
certain but we know through your deconstructions as we as
producers trying to an outlet on a way to see the world through a
New World Order. I'd like to mac and cheese for natives. It's
hard to donate and I did and I love bugs because we are heading
that way and Adams and John's favorite of course fought
cancer. Sorry for the late donation.
Ah, okay. And what else did he want?
There was a mac and cheese got that he wants to bugs Bugs, bugs
and F cancer.
Okay. All right. Yeah, man.
Hang in there. Karma usually. Love yourself. Love yourself. Do
your miles. The wrong one
dash dang it. Dash dang it. Wow,
I know. Am I dating myself?
mac and cheese, mac and cheese by iron Rand those like blue
you've got karma,
the cancer and that concludes our opening credits for
Associate Executive producers and the executive producers of
episode 880. The super lucky number, these are triple credits
that these fine producers will be receiving. And I know John,
you have a spreadsheet with all of the ones from the previous
shows. So it'll be easy after the show to Sharon Okeydoke.
Yellow Kido There you go. We'll be thanking everyone else $50 or
above later on in the segment and thank you very much thankful
for all the produce. That's really what I'm thankful for.
thankful for all the producers here at the no agenda show. And
we will be back on Sunday with yet another episode of vo
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try propagating the formula our
formula is this we go out hit people in the mouth
a new one oh crap, I forgot. I have three PR mentions. Number
one we this is from I don't know who sent this. I was messing
around with this before the election pretty fun. You can
have the extension replace your least favorite candidate. But
we're talking about having fake news filters. One of our
producers has two of them which should could be modified. So
it's a good starting point. You can find them at Trump
filter.com Which I guess filters out of every mention of the word
Trump and Hillary filter.com Not exactly what we were asking for,
but it's something to look at. Then we have in the PR also the
Michigan meetup, aim email lists and here's I really love this
one from producer Eric. In the morning Adam and John longtime
listener monthly pay pal subscriber for many years. I'm
also an iOS developer with my company sugarcoated apps, and
have recently started making sticker packs for iMessage.
Because hey, why not? I mean, a slave love texting and stickers.
I recently completed some custom badge stickers inspired by no
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now available so fans and listeners can propagate the
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you don't have in an iOS device John but the the kids the women
I say that just kids women love the stickers. Yeah, yeah, it's
like you know, so like an emoji only is not it's a big sticker.
Sticker women sticker of a unicorn. Oh, yeah.
Women love these stickers. So now you can send no agenda
stickers. You've got Carmine in the morning. Shut up, slave.
Hey, citizen. Thank you for your courage. They're very pretty.
Yeah, they're great. I mean, they're they're big, colorful
stickers. Keep in mind, Eric says every time someone sends
one of these stickers to an iOS user, they will see sent from no
agenda podcast in their iMessage feed. This is an easy and fun
way to help promote the show. I agree. There 99 cents in the
iMessage App Store. Apple keeps a third of the proceeds, of
course, but I plan to donate 50 cents per sale back to the show.
If they get enough traction. I'd like to press them as real
physical stickers for sale because they look pretty nifty
in my opinion. Thank you for your courage and continued
dedication to media deconstruction.
How cool is that? It's very cool.
I'm gonna give the chatroom the link so they can start on it
right away. That's a good idea. And I especially like that it
says sent from the no agenda podcast. Yeah, that's cool.
Good evening. Thank you very much, producer Eric.
Hello, I wanted to do a break down. Of course, I've been
watching NBC. All by while we were on the NBC is the worst of
the Trump haters. And now they've got three women. I don't
remember the three different women reporters who are going
after Trump. Hallie Jackson is one of them. They still have
Katie Turner. And then there's some the third one. They're just
going to everyone they're doing report after report. You know,
slamming this guy as much as they can slam it. Just to give
you an idea of what NBC is kind of all about. I want to play
this clip. This is Richard angle, or
SRP buddy award winning a whole
he is in Aleppo, but No he's not. He's actually on a computer
talking to a guy in Aleppo and got this. And of course, they're
slamming the bombing of the hospital. Have over and over
again and he's reporting on this and at the very end of this
particular could be goes on after this. But he does coach
the guy to say something and then I think he just forgets to
take this little tidbit out when he gets into the room do what
you know is editing editing booth. I think he just left this
in and made a mistake. I think it shouldn't have left it in but
you can play this and you'll hear it at the end.
There is urgent new concern tonight about the situation in
Syria after government forces bombed yet even more hospitals
in the rebel held part of Aleppo, leaving 250,000 People
with severely limited access to critical care. The UN
humanitarian chief said the situation has gone from terrible
to terrifying and now barely survivable. Our latest now from
Chief foreign correspondent Richard angle.
cameras captured the moment bombs hit what was one of just
two hospitals left in eastern Aleppo. Our team from Al Jazeera
television was filming inside
to the fact we're running.
Nurses faced a heartbreaking choice. Taking babies out of the
incubators.
Wait a minute, not the baby incubator ruse again.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Man that you know, and it worked. Well, the first time
you're right. In case you don't know we're talking about Gulf
War was it one was
the original one to J edge original? Yeah, well, Desert
Storm. Yeah. And they had a phony person worked. They worked
for a PR a daughter,
daughter of a guy who ran a PR agency in New York daughter.
Yeah. And she testified before Congress and with a bull crap
story. I don't understand. I guess she never got sworn in. So
otherwise, they would draw in the slammer for perjuring
herself. But it was a bullcrap store and it emphasized babies
in the incubator.
Yes. And it sounded like this. Oh, my
God for 25 years. They've been growing babies and cows and have
this wrong clip. Sorry. It's kind of like the
patients didn't know were running. Nurses faced a
heartbreaking choice. Taking babies out of the incubators,
keeping them alive. Or leaving them in a hospital that had
become a target. Now, there's only one hospital left. Tonight
we spoke to a member of the Aleppo Medical Council were
so worried that final hospital,
if this final hospital is bombed, what will it mean for
the people in eastern Aleppo? Sorry, it
will be a disaster for all of us.
by almost any measure this part of Aleppo under attack by the
Syrian regime that is already a disaster.
There is no food completely running out. Okay.
I couldn't hear at home don't say anything. Want to hear what
he says at the end there. What the hell was that
the Syrian regime that is already a disaster. There is no
food completely running out. Okay.
He said food is running out.
Yeah. He said. He said food. He says there's no food and then
NGO coaches and says food is running out. Ah. says okay, we
rang out. He couldn't say it. He sounded too
good. But it sounded like he said they're bombing now. That's
what it sounded like, at the end of the bombing. No,
no, he tried to I will play it again. Maybe
no food completely running out. Okay.
Yeah, I think he's okay. And then he says, yeah, yeah, of
course. He's prompting him of course. Yeah, you're right.
You're right. But I don't think he edited himself. That's why if
you're just an editor, you may not have understood that that
was a prompt. And so anger angle has a pee, buddy. He's not going
to edit his own piece. Hello, he's got staff, but you might be
right. I
never thought somebody else. Most of these guys are supposed
to do their own editing.
I have a I have a tie in to this bombing. If you enlist the NBC
stuff stays on that track. You
know, go do with the
rest of this NPC stuff is about Trump.
Okay, well, even better. It's a twofer. It's not just about the
bombing in Aleppo. No. On our favorite from Russia today. Who
is on the Kirby shit list? As you know that we tweeted the
last time. Yeah, he hates her. Oh my goodness. And he's he'll
hear it how is disdainfully? Isn't she of course she's not
letting up on this. Hey, you said the Russians bombed the
hospitals. Show us proof please. He keeps saying well, why don't
you talk to your own military man you fake news or be fake
news and not the same. It's just state sponsored news state
sponsored like the BBC. There Here we go. Did you have a call
Can you hear how you have a question? Do you have a
question? Did you? Oh Dami hater. Did you have a question
on your Europe? Go ahead.
So yesterday you said Russia is deployment of missiles to it's
cleaning up Kaliningrad region is destabilizing to European
security. Do you think the largest build up of NATO forces
near the Russian border since the end of the Cold War? And the
deployment of the missile defense system which Russia sees
as designed to contain Russia? I'm
sorry. It's completely the wrong clip. Noticing? Yeah. I'm sorry.
The great clip, though. Well, yeah, it's a great clip. We'll
get to it later. Whoa. Big fail the jury, the jury, the jury
will disregard whatever the heck I was trying to do right there.
All right. And we're back.
That was fun. That was a fun adventure. Yeah, that's good.
Let's go with debt. Now we're gonna deconstruct Lester Holt
and his bevy of beauties, who are just gonna go after Trump in
every way. And, and I'm going to give you an example of what
we're going to listen to. This is the I had a situation I'm
gonna, I'm gonna report on myself in the way that NBC is
reporting John Dvorak.
Wrong. It's John C. Dvorak.
John's Well, no, they would screw it. I would screwed up it
right now. Right. John C. Dvorak is very irida Stop.
It would be John Giovanni Jack.
John's vor. Jack is very irresponsible. He had a nail in
his tire. And instead of having it fixed immediately, he drove
around for a week, and then pumped up the tire with a air
pump on a daily basis when he could have had it fixed. But he
didn't have it fixed. Why is this? Why didn't he have it
fixed? It could have had it fixed. What a day. So he finally
had it fixed. A week later, an entire week went by and he
finally had it fixed. This man is irresponsible. Sounds right.
In other words, it's meaningless who gives a crap? Let's start
with a great
tire story. I liked the tire story.
This is back by the way back in fact, NBC hold Trump about face
one President
Elect Donald Trump did an about face today and something that
became a popular refrain at his rallies on the campaign trail,
lock her up, now backing away from his vow to prosecute
Hillary Clinton for her use of a private email server. It was
just one of many issues Trump addressed today, including
conflict, potential conflicts of interest involving his
businesses. We get details from NBC News, Hallie Jackson.
She should be locked up
some promises he ran on as candidate now looking less
likely as president elect.
Okay, yeah,
she shouldn't be locked up. Is this what she uses her example?
She shouldn't be locked up is not a promise about anything.
No, it's not a promise. Just like wishful thinking. It seems
to me, she shouldn't be locked up. And now she says Halle. She
goes, oh, oh, the man has to be violated a promise.
Is there more about this particular promise? Because I
have one thought about it.
Yes, sir. It continues to report. All right. Okay, good,
good. Good. He brings that she brings it a little better clip.
But she's exemplifying. She shouldn't be locked up as a
promise to lock or that's not a promise. It's just a comment. I
agree. All right, onward,
starting with his pledge to prosecute Hillary Clinton for
her email server.
She has to go to jail.
Now, Donald Trump confirms with source close to him first told
NBC quote, it's just not something that I feel very
strongly about. Well, so much for locking her up, I guess, who
doesn't have the power as President to prosecute anyone
tells the New York Times I don't want to hurt the Clintons,
adding she went through a lot and suffered greatly in many
different ways. Breitbart, the conservative outlet that's
backed Trump is now blaring, the headline broken promise, with
news now of maybe another one. During his campaign, Trump
attacked a major climate deal, the Paris accord signed by
nearly every nation in the world.
We will cancel this deal so that our companies can compete today.
He says he has an open mind about the deal. The walk back
raising questions about what he will do as president and what
he's already done in his businesses and charity. The
Trump Foundation reporting in a new filing it violated IRS
rules. tax experts say correcting that could have
required paying taxes and possible penalties. On the
business side unanswered questions about how he'd wall
off his personal interest from the interests of the country.
Suggesting on the trail. It wouldn't be an issue.
I wouldn't even be thinking about the business. I mean, who
cares? I mean, I would actually say who cares? Now,
Trump's brushing aside fears of conflicts of interest, pointing
out the laws totally on my side. He's right The president is
exempt from conflict of interest laws, but not from
constitutional provisions forbidding foreign guests. The
President Elect today also condemned and disavowed a recent
gathering here in Washington of members of the alt right, a
conservative extremist movement with ties to white nationalism.
He added he doesn't want to do anything to energize that group.
Lester,
Hallie Jackson, thanks now to the travel headaches that can be
had for the longest time.
I have a comment on this. I'm sure there's more like
a 10 comments on this. This clip, by the way, should have
been cut off earlier because it was I've tried to make these
points individually.
I have one comment specifically about well, what she's not
saying is that what I've heard Trump say is I want the Clintons
to heal. These people need to heal. I don't want to go after
them. I want them to heal. They need time to heal. The I think
this is the most brilliant checkmate move I've ever seen
this. This is so obvious what he's done here. Explain, ah,
well, by saying I'm not gonna go after that, I'm not gonna go
after anybody. Which of course, obviously, you know, he wouldn't
go after someone who'd be Congress, they would be FBI.
But by no, he says this. He says this in a report. She's She
makes them comment. He has no power to prosecute anyone. But
they play that on the downside. They have, oh, the guy wants to
do this and that and he's not going to do it, by the way
doesn't have any power to do it anyway. And then job Ba ba ba ba
ba. Then she's screaming and yelling, she does the same thing
with the taxes. But she says But
wait, stick stay there. Okay, keep keep going. The reason why
it's checkmate is because if you have the incoming president
saying, bibs, let him heal. We're not going to do anything.
Makes it very difficult for President Obama to pardon
anybody.
Oh, yeah. No, I thought that too. When I actually when I
heard this on the radio, I said this may be a way to keep Obama
from pardoning hardening. Advanced. Yeah, once he's out.
Boom, that's off the table. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I think you
might you're absolutely correct. Okay. That's all I think that
says a ploy. They don't see this. They don't see this on
there. They don't even suggest it.
It's check night. It's checkmate. Obama can't do
anything now. Because it'll make him look all the Why did you
have to pardon them? If there's nothing wrong? Because Trump's
not gonna go after him? What was going on?
Yeah, I'm in total agreement on that. Good. Let's go back to
what else she says. She goes on about conflict of interest, all
kinds of conflict of interest, although it's not a process. She
does the same thing. Boosts an idea and then mentioned that is
not illegal. And the other one, which is the one that really got
me correct, cracking up to myself as he may have to pay
taxes and a penalty. Yeah, I have to pay taxes and a penalty
when I file late. Yeah. I have to do that. Yeah. Yeah. In that
guest technically, it's a violation is a violation of the
IRS
and hold on this don't accept gifts from foreign leaders. I
mean, come on. Hillary Clinton accepted a $75,000 necklace and
wore it saying well, you know, we didn't want to insult this
foreign leader who gave that to us Come on this is
bullshit. Yeah. The but they're that's what they're going to use
that's a bit because I've noticed this amongst them my
liberal friends. You still have some left huh? There I don't
lose the friends over this
way you think they'll have a meeting remand window bad
divorce Jack? What a douche.
But uh, well, they may be talking about it by now. The
they're all banking on this one. emoluments are where I can't
remember the word but it's in it's in the Constitution that
you can't take these these gifts from foreigners, foreign
dignitaries, mostly. And I think they're all hoping to God that
there's some way of connecting a hotel somewhere in Dubai or some
place that has an expensive suite that the Sultan rents out
to before and gift, they're going to try to do that. But
there's no Oh, no,
no, it's even it's even funnier. Like, well, if. If some foreign
leader comes to DC to meet with the President and stays at the
Trump Hotel,
that that's a gift. Supposedly, it's a room that I could rent.
How's it a gift? Am I giving them gifts to
you gave me if you rent your gifting but
somehow paying for hotel rooms a gift when it's not not LET'S
PLAY CLIP three and see where that if it's not a repeat,
right Bart? The conservative outlet that's backed Trump is
now blaring the headline broken promise with news now of maybe
another one. During his campaign Trump attacked a major climate
deal the Paris accord signed by nearly every nation in the
world.
We will cancel this deal so that our companies can compete today.
He says he has an open mind about the deal. Is this the same
clip?
Yeah, it is but I wanted that day but segmented offer recatch
I'll finish it them razor slash Stop, stop at this
shop Stop, stop.
How come this isn't celebrated instead of condemned? What do
you mean? How come it's not celebrated outcome is not
celebrated always got an open mind about the climate deal.
Fantastic. Now we can maybe go ahead with what we want to do
well,
in fact, it seems like as an open and very counter
conservative thought pattern about all of this stuff. Yeah,
why isn't it celebrated because it condemned because
now he's a liar. Okay, whatever it is. He's a liar. He lied. He
lied now he's being kind Oh,
unbelievable to me we can play the last part again, which I
think is clipped off for a reason.
I mean, the last part of that clip,
no, no depart.
On the business side unanswered questions about how he'd wall
off his personal interest from the interests of the country
suggesting on the trail start
with a playing a Rolling Stones bed.
Yeah, that's a can't always get what you want
and always have what you want. You can't which is one of the
things he played at his knees. But yes, I think dropping it in
there was a little peculiar.
I don't know what the video was maybe the video but to have that
in the background? No, no.
Well off his personal interest from the interests of the
country suggesting on the trail, it wouldn't be an issue.
I wouldn't even be thinking about the business. I mean, who
cares? I mean, I would actually say who cares?
Now, Trump's brushing aside fears of conflicts of interest,
pointing out the laws totally on my side. He's right. It is
president is exempt from conflict of interest laws, but
not from constitutional provisions forbidding foreign
gifts. The president of left today also condemned and
disavowed a recent gathering here in Washington of members of
the alt right, a conservative extremist movement with ties to
white nationalism. He added he doesn't want to do anything to
energize that group. Lester
Jackson, thanks. None of the travel headaches. It can be
hard. Yeah.
Okay. It's good. You gotta stop it.
Can we talk about this alt right thing for a second?
Okay. But first, let's play the goblin clip. So we know what all
right, it's all about the goblin
clip it is.
Hear me as goblin guides to go into the Washington. I don't
care if it's goblin God Sani. But if you catch him kissing
goblins or in bed with a goblin, you know that's a problem or
what if he marries a goblin when he has babies with a goblin. I
mean, that would be what Hillary did.
And her show Okay, great. Perfect. Great. Excellent.
Excellent. What did I forgot? Well, all right. Yes. Okay.
Sorry. Yeah. So I don't really have any clips of it because it
be if you haven't seen it, it's it's everywhere. The Atlantic
magazine, played a the put a video on a report that this
group, NPI National Policy Institute, who had a conference
in DC in the Reagan Hall, I believe, is to make it worse,
that it was a bunch of white supremacists. And the video they
show is of this leader guy, Spencer guy, and then he have
a clip of it.
Yeah, I did not clip it if I have a clip of it.
Oh, good. That you bring it up and you can use that as a base.
Yeah, thank you. Where's this clip?
I don't know. Interested Google News,
as it were the stupid mannequin drug or as long as I do have a
clip. Maybe it's a maybe it's just Holly Jackson clip. Hallie
Jackson was
not invited his age today forced to fend off new questions about
how the President left can juggle both his business
dealings and the business of the country. By the time he
takes office as President of the United States. Everything every
law will be complied with every eye and every key will be done.
The focus his new DC hotel and a recent reception complete with
Trump wine meant to foreign diplomats.
They spent a lot of time talking about the property and how they
hope that you know this would be a property that the diplomats
would use
the sales pitch raising concerns overseas customers might stay
there to win brownie points with the next president. Meanwhile,
the foreign bank that financed Trump's acquisition of that
property and these others is under investigation by the
Justice Department. A department Trump will oversee come January
Trump's name not just on hotels here at home, but around the
world 15 properties internationally with a lucrative
deal in Turkey and business ties in Saudi Arabia even as he
assailed the Clinton Foundation for its links to the foreign
government. Uh, why don't
you give back the money that you've taken from certain
countries
some of Trumps biggest business deals come From India, pictures
now surfacing of some Indian business partners visiting last
week despite the president elect in the thick of transition talks
at Trump Tower.
The conflicts that are going to follow from his ownership of the
Trump Organization while serving as president are pervasive.
They're obvious they're foreseeable.
Separate separately late tonight, different video is
surfacing that's raising some concerns. It shows an alt right
conference here in Washington, where one of the speakers
praised Donald Trump with language similar to that used in
Nazi Germany who asked us as Europeans,
it is only normal again, when we are great again, hail Trump hail
our people hail victory.
People in the crowd responding with straight salutes. Speaker
Richard Spencer telling NBC News he intended his words to be
ironic and exuberant, insisting the alt right is not a neo Nazi
movement, adding Trump has been good for them. A Trump
spokesperson responding to that conference says President elect
Trump has continued to denounce racism of any kind. And he was
elected because he will be a leader for every American.
Lester.
This is a call back to what we were talking about earlier, I
looked into these guys, I watched a whole lot of video
of the cake. And I mentioned one thing about the video that they
were showing you so yeah, sure. This guy says hailed Trump. And
then about three arms out of maybe 200 People go up like a
Nazi salute, as far as I'm concerned when the numbers at
low and united everybody all of a sudden did it. In other words,
they were shills. It could have been from the Democrat side for
all I know.
Not only that, but Okay, so I, this is Richard B. Spencer. He's
the President and Director of the National Policy Institute,
MPI america.org. And what these first I'll tell you what these
guys are about, they're about exactly what we were talking
about, about white culture. And that, you know, you have black
Americans, Chinese Americans, Irish Americans, everyone's
everyone's got a culture in the club, and it's okay. And they're
saying, Hey, we're European culture, and this is who we are.
And this is our identity. And they claim over and over again,
they do not hate anybody, they're not anti semitic. In
fact, the part of the video has a couple of Jews who were at the
conference doing the hail Trump as well as tea at tea like
tequila is, is doing this now. What and I've heard several
interviews, but that guy is boring. And he's backpedaling,
because, look, you're a dick. If you want to have a white
culture, group, fine, no problem. But you know that this,
this kind of behavior is going to make you look stupid, you
know that and now that what he's saying the message everywhere?
Well, this was ironic. It was a joke people just exuberant, and
they were happy and you know, just hailed Trump were happy has
nothing to do with the white nationalism. So some people go
hail hail Trump, which we do that with hail apple and as be
honest, the sermon that is played when the President comes
in is Hail to the Chief so it's not like the word hail and the
what they call the Roman salute is completely out of the
ordinary.
Yeah, good point. But the Hail to the Chief Yeah,
I mean, we that's that's our song Hail to the Chief. So you
know, but for this confusion that they've created a bunch of
a holes, it's stupid, you know, better than that. And if you
don't, you're an idiot. And I listened to the guy listening he
has to say, and it doesn't interest me it
there's too much undertone. I really don't like it. I really
don't. But it could be
it could be a plant.
Yeah, but they have a point. They have a point about what
they're doing. It's just the way the media immediately portrayed
that was as if there's a bunch of crazy racists out there and
of course they want the president elects to stand on a
podium and not some podium national platform something big
and say everyone who hates I hate them or something I'm not
quite sure what they I think
you should just put a one line quote on the front of his
website yeah saying hey denounced white supremacy done
good idea and that's on the page one of the website you said go
to trump.com You'll see I'm
gonna put it right now. Is Donald J trump.com.
I'm gonna write that down. One liner right because he has the
damn the what is it? You selling T shirts and hats still before
you hit the site with a splash page, so put it right there. And
you should make T shirts. I denounced racism than white
nationalists. But at the end, they just refer to the websites
on the website. What more can I do? Yeah. What's more powerful
than that? Can't make
make new hats. Make new make new hats. Make it new hat
make America great. Again, no
agenda.
Make America Great. America make America great again and don't
like the racist. Do something, please. Yeah,
because we're sick of this.
It really I'm sick but I'm also sick of everyone being everyone
being called a racist for everything. There's nothing
wrong with people wanting to explore their European identity.
There is a lot wrong with setting yourself up for being
called a Nazi you just morons. Stupid, stupid. And I think that
they do it to get attention and that's, you know, I don't like
any of that. I don't like him. I don't like it.
I think we get the Okay. All right.
But perhaps much more important than any of that is what took
place in the European Union this week.
A number of very important votes and a resolution and it is
indeed the resolution that we need to speak about.
Okay, but can we start with Can I intro that with the question
time that happened is about stalling Brexit in the
parliament
has nothing to do with my clip but shorter. All right.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On the 23rd of June, my constituents
voted by a margin of 62% to 38% to leave the European Union.
Many of those people many of those people are unhappy and
frustrated. What they see are delaying tactics by some
remainders who don't seem to understand the meaning of the
word democracy. This is very discourteous,
very discourteous,
the Honourable gentleman has a legitimate question. And that
question and every other question should be fully and
with politeness heard the honourable gentleman.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I will repeat it remaining dancing
to understand the meaning of the word democracy, which I would
remind them is government by the people, especially rule of the
majority. With that in mind, what reassurance to my wife and
girlfriend, few of my constituents and me that article
50 will be triggered by March next year.
I'm clear that we will trigger Article 50 By the end of March
next year. But my honourable friend is absolutely right. To
make the key point, a referendum was decided it was decided by
this parliament six to one people should have the
opportunity to vote on membership of the European
Union. The vote was held the turnout was high. The public
gave their verdict. There must be no second referendum. No
attempt to weasel out of this. This is the government that will
deliver on the vote of the British.
Well, that's nice.
That's good bullcrap. And I was right. It has nothing to do with
what I'm here about. Oh, I'm
sorry. That's okay. Actually, I've got about halfway through
the clip, I realized it was the case because i You're not going
to be talking about Brexit now. At least it's out it's out of
the way. I don't have any more to say about
it. Good. It's all good. No, the European Parliament MEPs who
have pretty much zero power, but they still do things like pass
resolutions. Based upon the resolutions, things start to
happen. Mainly money comes starts to starts to happen.
Money happens. And here.
I know. Yeah. I do have a clip to hit back you up with your gun
because I know what you get by now I know where you're going.
Russia and Islamist terrorist groups are increasingly
targeting the EU with propaganda. This the warning and
a resolution approved by MEPs, which aims to combat anti Europe
campaigns. It says Moscow spreads propaganda through media
and other means seeking to incite fear and divide
to explain how various Russian entities Russia, TV Sputnik and
so on, are trying to influence the audience in Europe. They are
trying to split Europe and the United States they are trying to
belittle what the European Union is doing.
The resolution says propaganda aims to discredit EU
institutions. Moscow has been quick to react with President
Putin claiming the move says a lot about democracy in the West.
We're observing some totally obvious degradation. He says,
politicians in the political sense of this word great, you
have the perception of democracy in Western society. In this
case, at the level of the European Parliament, MEP, say
Russia has stepped up its anti EU propaganda since annexing
Crimea, and now suggesting more awareness raising education and
investigative journalism.
So obviously, there's, there's a lot going on in this resolution.
That is a problem. And before we get to that, one of the targeted
organizations that this resolution was created for is of
course Russia today. Eight years RTS Editor in Chief, we of
course,
are extremely disappointed. And this is this is really
outrageous, we're disappointed at how easily the European
establishment gives away its own principles, the principles that
we've been hearing for ages for decades, the principles about
which Russia has been lectured for years, for decades. And now
we see that this holy principle of freedom of speech is not
really needed and looks scary to Europeans themselves. This is
very, very sad.
Very, very sad. Yes. And of course, this is a fine case of
like you say, for being yourself when you cope due to health,
because we know that there's tons of propaganda outfits that
are certainly funded by the United States Voice of America,
just to mention one. But anyway, John, I thought it'd be fun to
run through this resolution. Yes, I Yeah. You were afraid?
Oh, you already knew it was coming, didn't you? Now here we
go is the motion for a European Parliament, a resolution on EU
EU strategic communication to counteract propaganda against it
by third parties. So they always have a lot of whereas is an
assumption. So here's some of the assumptions whereas the EU
is member states and citizens are undergoing systematic
pressure to tackle information, disinformation and
misinformation campaigns and propaganda from countries and
non state actors, such as transnational terrorist and
criminal organizations in his neighborhood, which are intended
to undermine the very notion of objective information or ethical
journalism, casting all information as biased or as an
instrument of political power, and which also target democratic
values and interests. This is some serious shit man. Whereas
media freedom, access to information and freedom of
expression are the basic pillars of a democratic system in which
the transparency of media ownership and the sources of
financing of media are of the utmost importance, really,
whereas strategies to ensure quality journalism, media
pluralism, and fact checking can only be effective as long as
information providers enjoy trust and credibility. You see,
you can see where this is leading Kancha Yes, whereas
Information Warfare is a historical phenomenon as old as
warfare itself, whereas targeted information warfare against the
West
is Thor mad,
I thought that sound effect would be appropriate.
Whereas with Russia's annexation of Crimea and the Russian led
hybrid war in the Donbass, the Kremlin, has escalated the
confrontation with the EU whereas the Kremlin has stepped
up its propaganda war, with Russia playing an enhanced role
in the European media environment aimed at creating
political support in European public opinion for Russian
action and undermining the coherence of EU foreign policy.
This is the F Russia Bill resolution I should say.
We're getting they can't tell their side of the story, I
guess. Where's the financial
crisis and the advance of new forms of digital media have
posed serious challenges for, quote, quality journalism,
leading to a decrease in critical thinking among
audiences, thus making them more susceptible to disinformation
and manipulation. We're under attack, I guess. Whereas the
propaganda war and the intrusion of Russian media is particularly
strong and often unmatched in the countries of the Eastern
neighborhood. Okay, now we're gonna go down a bit here. So
what do we mean so what?
So what is not there? I think they're trying to imply that the
Russians don't have the same sort of opportunity I played the
BBC on on the Kremlin TV,
as well. They're saying that the Russians have been this is all
anti Russia recognizes that Russian government is
aggressively employing a wide range of tools and instruments
such as think tanks and special foundations, special
authorities, multilingual TV station, but he else does that
pseudo news agencies and multimedia services, cross
borders, social and religious groups, as the regime wants to
present itself as the only defender of traditional
Christian values, social media and internet trolls to challenge
the democratic values divide Europe, Okay, now let's get to
some of the things we want to do.
Okay, well, wait, let's just stop for a second. You're
talking about a syndicate media syndicate like Sputnik Yes.
Which I would recommend people
and they named actually named Sputnik by name. Yes button
again, then an obscure on the Dish Network for examples
channel 280, of an obscure news outlet called R T. Is this is a
huge threat to the machine. Yeah, in Europe, aha.
It is. So then they talked about the action plan on strategic
communication. And the it's actually called the joint
framework countering hybrid threats which I'm not going to
get into now. But here are some of the things they need emphasis
that more funding is necessary to support freedom of the media.
In the European neighbourhood policy countries within the
scope of EU democracy instruments calls on the
commission in this respect to ensure the full exploitation of
existing instruments such as the European instrument for
democracy and human rights, the Eastern media partnership media
freedom watch and the IDI with regard to protection of media
freedom and pluralism. So they got groups to do this underlines
the need to strengthen media plurality and objectivity,
impartiality and independence of impartiality and independence of
the media within the EU and his neighborhood, including non
state actors, inter alia, to support for journalists and the
development of capacity building programs for media actors for
fostering information exchange partnerships and networks such
as content sharing platforms, media related research, mobility
and training opportunities for journalists, and placements with
EU based media to facilitate exchanges of best practices,
they want to control journalism.
Licensing comes next, highlight the
important role of quality journalism, education and
training inside and outside the EU in order to produce quality
journalistic analysis and high editorial standards. Let's get
to the last few ones here. This resolution underlines that
incitement of hatred, violence or war, cannot hide behind
freedom of expression encourages legal initiatives to be taken in
this regard to provide more accountability when dealing with
dealing with disinformation. That means judicial Oh, illegal
legal initiatives to be taken in this regard. So there's their
speech, but speech that has to be legislated.
Yeah, this is a leading again to licensing. And here we go. The
final
one, I think it's final one. resolution calls on the
commission to advance certain legal initiatives in order to be
more effective and accountable in dealing with Disinformation
and Propaganda, and to use the midterm review of the European
neighborhood instrument to promote the strengthening of the
resilience of the media as a strategic priority calls on the
Commission to conduct a thorough review of of the efficiency of
existing EU financial instruments. So they're looking
to do we have the money, and to come forward with a proposal for
a comprehensive and flexible solution which can provide
direct support direct financial support, to independent media
outlets, think tanks and NGOs, especially in the target group
native language and enabling the channeling of additional
resources to organizations that have the ability to do so such
as the European Endowment for Democracy. And they also say we
should be curtailing financial flows aimed at financing
individuals and entities engaged in STRATCOM activities,
incitement to violence and hatred, calls on the Commission
to conduct a thorough audit of the efficiency of certain big
scale media projects funded by the EU such as your own news.
This is this is astounding to me. Astounding. The Commission,
and this resolution believes that
astounding, but is it a surprise? No, not to
me, but that they're codifying this. What's astounding, is
where's the outrage? Oh,
it would no one's gonna read. And by the way,
and by the way, shouldn't we receive some of this funding if
they're going to be given it to independent media producers who
are trying to you know, give everyone a fair shake?
You know, that's what you'd think. But it turns out in all
these things, we've noticed this before, as well, they talk a big
game about giving money to this guy and that guy, they're only
going to give money to two outlets that have been pre
approved run by their pals was a with a specific agenda that
meets their needs, they're not going to give money to any other
people other than this, this corrupt a little core group.
And when you give direct financing, which is coming
directly from the European financial instruments, when
you're funding journalists, teaching journalists, what are
you teaching them? Doesn't anyone have a concern with this
guy? No. I'm asking and there wasn't a minority opinion this
past this resolution doesn't I mean before what it means but
there was a minority opinion so the minority votes had a couple
lines here they say we have a problem with this. This report
identifies two threats regarding propaganda state actor namely
Russia and terrorist groups such as dash and there's a whole
section on ISIL and dash. So they say it is irresponsible to
place a state like Russia and the same level of threat as dash
totally agree, promotes the EU race for free trade agreements
in east neighborhood and beyond promoting this an escalation of
tensions with Russia and its Eurasian Economic Union. Yeah,
of course, it's raising tensions with Russia. They does not
recognize its own propaganda on you. Democracy is the only one
possible which highlights a presumed superiority that may be
offensive. And it pledges paradoxically for independent
media's to be supported by the EU. Yes, absolutely. And he's
very rude. Very rude towards Russia.
I don't know what the deal is.
But I know what the deal is complete control. What do you
mean, you don't know what the deal is? It's complete control.
Well, that's the I guess the deal and the pipeline's
Well, today, though,
yeah, well, before you could stay stay on this topic for just
another second. C span, had this little meeting at the Aspen
Institute. Oh, yeah. Run by the guest. He was already way too
many books for who was hosting? Was it? Was it one of like, no,
is a guy who was was the guy, the guy who wrote the Steve Jobs
book, what's his name? Oh, that guy. The guy who runs the Aspen
Institute, he was hosting it was a bunch of journalists. And they
were asking each one of them. Well, how do you keep political
bias out of that out of the reporting? And nobody had a good
answer. And then the worst guy, of course, was Marty Baron, the
guy who runs the white, he's executive editor of the
Washington Post, which is completely, you know, biased, to
the point where if Trump had to kick him off, they couldn't even
let him get credentialed. Right. So they had to wait in line at
the Trump rallies acts like everybody else to get in. And
they did. And they bitched about it, because they wanted their
special treatment. But I thought you might want to hear when
Marty Baron says about this, or what Google on news, Google had
a representative talking about how they deal with bias and how
they keep it out.
Okay, we're joined by it. Let's do the Marty Baron first. Okay.
So I don't think that we will ever escape allegations that,
that we suffer from political bias, because that's just the
nature of the environment at the moment, particularly during a
presidential campaign. But I don't even I don't even and we
do have layers of editing, where people act as internal checks on
others, if they detect a bias and story now we endeavour to
guard against
the editorial levels are about what our editorial levels about
to keep the facts straight, not to show bias, not about bias,
the bias sneaks in anyway, it's to make sure that you're using
the right words, and all of you know that the piece reads well,
and it doesn't have a buried lead. And you have different
people looking at in New York Times, they used to have more
people like that you go through
three or four, what you're saying is the job is not to
stop, not just on bias. And we do have
layers of editing, where people act as internal checks on others
if they detect bias and stories, and we endeavor to guard against
it. And it's part of our code of code of ethics. And part of our
principles at the post. The way that I see it is our mission is
that we need to be honest, honorable and fair and our
reporting. And in fairness involves being open to what
people are saying and listening to them, closely. Giving them a
hearing, and, and a fair hearing. But ultimately, we do
the reporting. And then we have an obligation to tell people in
a very straightforward way, what it is we found, what the
evidence actually shows, and not to pussyfoot about it, and to
and not to be timid about it, and to tell people exactly what
the evidence shows and tell it to them straight. And when we
talk about fairness, my view is, let's be fair to the public too.
And that's part of being fair to the public is telling them in a
straightforward way, what the results of our reporting were,
what we found, and, and so I believe that that's, that's
absolutely central to our mission. I don't think that we
should shy from that. And I don't think that we should shy
from it simply because someone as a result may accuse us of
political political bias.
guarding your reality from things we find inconvenient.
This is fake news.
Another William stagno. All right.
Now the Google guy. Yeah, the Google girl Oh, Google go, who
is she do we know?
Now she's just another set. I don't even think as I listened
to her that she knows what she's talking about. She's just one of
these kind of pretty spokesperson for the company and
represented some high position.
I think from Google's perspective, we're not a news
organization. Googles mission, however, is to organize the
world's information and make it universally accessible and
useful, which is not dissimilar from
their money off of advertising, but
All and that was a that was always their mission. That was
always their mission, I think. Yeah, that's what they've always
said, yeah, it has nothing to do with going to Mars or
solely accessible and useful, which is not dissimilar from
many news organizations. But because many, many people around
the world come to Google for information, we absolutely
cannot have any type of bias whatsoever. And and I think
that, you know, what you see on Google search, what you see
blues, it's algorithmically generated, and is meant to show
whatever news articles, you know, the algorithm, you know,
surfaces real quick, Olivia, can algorithms have biases? Well, I
think, right. I mean, obviously, there's a human being who's
creating those those algorithms. And I think that's, that's
something that has been a healthy topic of discussion and
a very valid one, which is the invalid, every algorithm is a
series of choices. But there are literally hundreds of signals
going into, into Google search results. I mean, it's not just
it's not a simple matter by any means. In fact, it's so complex,
and it changes every week. So we can't even you know, describe
what all the different factors are that go into it, but it's
many, many,
so many, many, many, many, many, many penguin many, many.
It's important that when you come to Google, you are able to
get information across many, many different many, many
depths. Many, many different news organizations with
different political leanings. Many, many Sterling's point at
first person perspectives if you go on YouTube, I mean, I think
many, many are meant to be a portal for the world's
information. And that can mean a lot of different things. Many,
many, many, many, many
fake news made up false stories,
fake news, unreliable source, fake news,
some bites of snippets, fake news, fake news, fake news, fake
news infects the left and the right.
As right Tom Starkweather. Good work. Yeah, there's something
about there was an article in The New York Times regarding
this very issue. And I totally disagree with what she said.
There's many, many algorithms many, many bullshit. Here's the
problem with the algorithms, it's destroying you. And this is
written by Jenna Wertham. And I won't read the whole article,
but she says, I shouldn't be surprised that Donald Trump
could be elected president. But I was I live in Brooklyn and
work in Manhattan, two of the most liberal places in the
country. But even online, it wasn't seeing many signs of
support for him. How did that blindness occur? Social media is
my portal into the rest of the world, my Periscope into the
communities next to my community into how the rest of the world
thinks and feels. And it's completely failed me. So what
she says about she'd rather do this next little piece here each
time I add, in hindsight that failure makes sense. I spent
nearly 10 years coaching Facebook and Instagram and
Twitter on what kinds of news and photos I don't want to see.
And they all behaved accordingly. Each time I liked
an article or clicked on a link or hit another. The algorithms
that curate my streams took notice and showed me only what
they thought I wanted to see. That meant I didn't realize that
most of my family members who live in rural Virginia were
voicing their support for Trump online. I didn't see any of the
pro Trump memes that were in heavy circulation before the
election. I never saw a Trump hat or sign or T shirt in my
feeds. And the only Election Day selfies I saw were of people
declaring their support for Hillary Clinton. And that is it
goes on to good article, your that is the problem. Have you
created your own little echo chamber with the algorithm?
That's why these things are not good. You have no serendipity.
But that's not what the Google lady's gonna say. And this is
exactly what I said, I think on a two shows ago that this will
eventually remove advertisers desire to even beyond the social
networks. It'll be too narrow a band of interest.
Well, that's what they've always been wanting. It's high. No, but
you know, they talk a big game about the narrow band, but then
when it comes down to it, they've made me get some new
customers as people already bought our product. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, thanks for Thanks for saving my two clips.
What do you mean say I'd like to demo to Rocky saved my clips.
Okay,
now pointless.
No, they weren't. They weren't. I want to take a break. But I
have a couple of things to catch up on.
Blindness. We want to tease the after the break when I took them
to talk a little bit about Thanksgiving. Oh, of course you
are. But not the same old story. I'm gonna I'm gonna beef it up.
Ah, but my current pet peeve.
I like it. Good. Good, good. Okay. Many, many.
Michael Flynn. So you know, we deconstruct these things like
pens. And on the last show, you did a pretty good deconstruction
of how the fake news known I think that was it was that NBC
maybe made it sound like Mike Pence called all of Islam a
cancer where he was really talking about radical Islamic
cancer. Yes. So I found a more recent clip, and he's got to
watch it. He's got to watch it because I think you can
interpret this clip however you want, but I I think he did not
do a good job. And if this is what he really means, yeah, it's
a big Oh, I like Flynn. But this is not okay.
Islam is a political ideology. And it's a political ideology.
It definitely hides behind the site, this notion of it being a
religion. And I have a very, very tough time, because I don't
see a lot of people screaming Jesus Christ with hatchet, you
know, hatchets or machetes or rifles, shooting up clubs or
hatching, you know, literally axing families on a train. Or
like, they just killed a couple of police officers with with a
machete. I mean, it's just, it's unbelievable. So, so we have a
problem. It's like cancer, have gone through cancer in my own
life. So it's like cancer. And it's and it's like a, it's like
a malignant cancer, though, in this case, it has metastasized.
So like I just said, and the number of attacks in 22
countries in just the last 45 days. I mean, I look back over
the last, you know, 10 years or 15 years of my life, and the
things that I've seen and the things that I've witnessed
against this, this very vicious threat.
So if he had started off by saying radical Islam, or radical
Islamic terrorism, but he didn't do that, he didn't do that. So
I'd like to know what he really means. I
didn't like it. I didn't. That's not okay. It'll be
a little more. I didn't mind it at all, but he'll be a little
more circumspect. I think now that he's gonna get got a job.
Then, you know, Trump is meeting people that coming into his golf
club, a guest in New Jersey, and I could not be happier that
Tulsi Gabbard went to see Trump Yeah, you know, I have a I love
this girl, this woman and I if there was to be a female
president, she needs years that she needs to get some experience
on what she's doing. You know, eventually there may be as
she is your fav. Yeah, I like
her Elijah Democrat with you know, doesn't take any crap. And
so she went to see Trump and of course, she's now an Uncle Tom.
She is Uncle Tom. And so this is Chris Matthews talking about
that meeting with Howard Dean, the guy who called Trump a Nazi.
And he says something here it's a it's a political quip. Maybe
that's the right word quip is quip, just like a quip is like a
little stickman joke
and say like a little, little comment we have Yeah, but it's
like it's meant to be funny meant to
be funny little, but it's and I can remember, I distinctly
recall this kind of quip being made in my family around
Thanksgiving when we had a lot of the intelligence people in
the room because it would be be there and everything.
Which then be a cool whip. Cool. Yeah,
Cool Whip. Yeah, Cool Whip.
Oh, we wish we could do that gag for an hour quip. And you'll
hear it it's just I was like, Holy crap. That's political
bullcrap jokes if I ever heard one
said, thank you what today Trump met with Democratic
Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii. This is amazing what is
going on here. Gavin released a statement after the meeting,
saying while the rules of political expediency would say
should have refused to be with President like Trump, I never
have and never will play politics with American and
Syrian lives. For years, the issue of any interventions
regime change warfare has been one of my top priorities. Let me
be clear, I will never allow partisanship to undermine our
national security when the lives of countless people. There's a
woman, a politician, Kelsier, who is very anti intervention,
like yourself, we've got this Middle East, which she's against
the whole regime change number. And now she's going there with a
way of maybe saying, maybe we can cut a deal with Russia,
maybe there is a way to somehow end the bloodshed in Syria and
keep us out. Well, I
mean, as I said, she believes an interesting person and the
people from Hawaii basically have her tagged as extremely
ambitious with flexible principles. Really? Yeah. I
mean, she was a lefty for Bernie and now she's talking about
running against Mazie Hirono, who's a left wing or liberal
senator from Hawaii. So who knows what this is all about?
extremely ambitious with flexible principles. That is
just hit me that is like one that is such a typical beltway
insider bull crap thing to say. quip. quip, yes. It's a quip.
Really, um, man, and when it's talking about seller but that
should be celebrated. That's fantastic. Yes. Now before we go
to break I want to play one more of our entries for the suck it
up buttercup, a jingle which has been just fabulous. Everyone has
done such a great job. But we will be we will be critiquing
them. This one will take us into the break job. This is original
music I believe which is quite impressive. This one comes to us
from Tyler and Kyle suck it up buttercup there you got a
resolute ending What do you think?
I like it. I think that's the kind of whiny voice I think that
works. Yeah,
it could be a great beat. The vocals could be a little clearer
so that's the main problem I had
didn't have too much trouble understanding more so you should
change Mike's
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Okay, I need to say one thing. Because people are getting very
angry at me specifically and it's bothering me. Okay. pizza
gate. Oh, pizza gate.
i i People need to know people need to understand that for nine
years. Nine years. I have been all over every single pedo bear
pedo ring story there is
longer than that. Then you bring it into this show often. Yeah.
Why don't see your you've got a complete pass on this. Yeah. But
so nobody should be complaining.
This is an example of the hallucinations of the other side
view are hallucinating. There's all kinds of creepy pictures on
the internet. Congratulations, you found them. There's all
kinds of creepy art. There's all kinds of things going on. I just
have not seen any actual proof. But when I looked at do true
when I looked at the Rolodex files, when I looked at the Isle
of Jersey, I looked into the Bush White House, Boys Town Boys
Town there is we've been talking about Boystown the documentary
for years. I'm telling you, you're fooling yourself until I
see some actual evidence. It's just not there. People keep
saying the following thing. Well, it's weird coincidences,
you're not connecting the dots. Well, I connect the dots. It's
what I do. And people are saying that I'm compromised, and I'm
probably a pedophile. I get the most I get the most horrible
things. Horrible. And, you know, and and people I'm not donating
anymore. I get a lot of that too. Until you you you're not
Oh, as usual. Those people never donate in in the first place, of
course, which irks me,
but but what's sad is that I'm actually the guy who does this
all the time. Yeah. And now I do. And I have ya. You've
actually privately said back off a little bit.
I can remember that distinctly. That
was years ago. Yeah. Well, I was doing a lot of it. That's
because you were getting carried away. Yeah. Yeah, you were.
Yeah. Because he's how much you were doing it?
Yeah. But you really go down. You really go down the rabbit
hole. And I gotta be I got into an argument with the Ancilla.
Just to show Yes, yes, you would. And here's what happened.
So she says pizza gate. I text her back. So yeah, I just don't
see any evidence and she comes out with the whole thing. But
look at the creepy pictures. And here's an article that sums it
up and not nothing sums it up other than there's creepy
pictures, and it's around this pizza pool place. And Podesta
went there and had a pizza party. In your mind. You're
creating something that there isn't there's no real evidence
for. So I said, Well, you know, to be honest and Scylla if
someone only had pictures of you like your Instagram the way it
used to be. She was a fetish model I'm pretty sure they could
come up with a whole storyline about you. Oh, that would have
pissed her off. Oh, my God said You're insulting to him. I'm
just trying to give you an example. Yeah. So anyway, just
so you know, I have looked at this very extensively, very
extensively. I mean, the funniest one is where they have
so called sketches from the cat, Madeline McCain, and McCann,
abductors in Portugal, if you remember that case from 1011
years ago. And it looks it looks just like Tony and John Podesta?
Like, yeah, because they looked like that 10 years ago. I mean,
yeah, it's just crazy.
It's crazy. And I'm sorry, don't
forget anyone has a problem, Adam mccurry.com. Yeah, he's
ignoring the obvious the pizza gate disaster. And just keep
hounding him. Thank you.
It's a part of my brand. That's right. Part of my brand. So I'm
sorry, I'm really sorry. If you got something I'm open to be you
don't need to send me the link to the Reddit. And you're
spinning it around, spin around. The kid with their hands taped
to the table was was the photo of the person who took the
picture was his kid, and it wasn't taped. It's all
disturbing. You can look at anything and think it's
disturbing, please, especially those of you who know that there
are people certainly the hill bots are in complete
hallucination world, you're in your own with that. Believe me,
if I could, if I could find a way to pin this on Podesta I
would be jumping for joy. Yeah, I think you made your point. And
you haven't, I'll forward some of this crap to you.
No, no, no, no, no, keep talking then. You want to talk more go?
All right here. Here's something that's kind of bothers me. I do
want to get to the Thanksgiving stuff. But yeah, I'm, I don't
know where I got this. But these are old. This is an old very
logo, these a year old interview with Hannity, this is before the
911 28 pages were released. Okay. And this is Trump, Trump
at all the interview about 911. And I'm listening to this
thinking, Wait a minute, I had one. And we've got a lot of
dudes named Ben, that help us and I've been trying to, like
over a year ago, I was trying to get access or just view online,
anything to get a look at the 28 pages. And it was all like, you
get feedback like, oh, no, it's actually they're gonna lock
anyone up or even sees this thing. You can't get access to
it. I can't even see it. You know, you did none of the guys
that would normally be able to get into this system to just get
this report out. Nothing could get into it. I never until it
came out. And we read it. I didn't get to see it. But I have
the sneaking suspicion that somehow along the lines Trump.
Now, of course, we think may be allied with the NSA. And the
FBI. Got to look at this because this this report here this
interview he did, having now read the 28 pages. He obviously
had a copy of it.
As that happened, I don't know. But it's in this report, I
guess. Yep.
You actually said something that really intrigued me. There's
still 28 pages of the 911 Commission report that have
never been revealed. And I got the impression that you knew
something maybe we don't know about the Saudis. We'll
find out when that's opened, I think you're gonna find out that
Saudi Arabia had a lot to do
with the ravine down, you open that.
You're gonna find it. You also used a word, which was he's
changed in his later commentary. But he used a word in there
that, that I that also caught me,
let me hear. It's at the end, that little thing. He says at
the end,
you'll hear the word and there's an anomalous word that he uses
that you'll pick up on if you're now listening for it. Okay, let
me listen again.
Let me ask you this. You actually said something that
really intrigued me. There's still 28 pages of the 911
Commission report that have never been revealed. And I got
the impression that you knew something maybe we don't know
about the Saudi. We'll find out when that's opened. I think
you're going to find out that Saudi Arabia has a lot to do
with the roofing data.
You open that if you became president.
With the ripping down. Yeah. Rip down ripping down of the towers.
Yeah, ha, ha.
Border liner border liner.
I know where that see. I'm all in on that. People
are ripping down ripping down.
Things you can't say no morea.
Now that you might have played part two, where he also he
reiterates his position about the about the 28 pages and says
yeah, we should release them but I listened to these two clips
and say he had the 28 pages.
How did he get up? Go go go Paris.
We went after Iraq. They did not knock down the World Trade
Center. Okay. It wasn't the Iraqis that knocked down the
World Trade Center. We went after Iraq. We decimated the
country around second over okay. But it wasn't the Iraqis, you
will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center
because they have papers out there that are very secret. You
may find its facilities. Okay. But you will find out
Yeah, why it thinks and what year was this?
This was the beginning of his campaign. Very early on over
here, guys.
I'm sure tons of people had seen it. Maybe
I went out of my way to get a look at it. I couldn't get
anywhere. Right. But he sounds like they had a copy. He's got
in his pocket. You want to read it?
Hey, check this out. Yeah.
Okay, now I want to do my Thanksgiving thing. Yeah.
Now you're gonna do the Trump thing to what Trump thing? I
see. Oh, I thought you had a Trump did a Thanksgiving
meeting. Video. He's been doing videos and you know, he's been
doing videos. Yeah,
he's been doing these videos. I find it very tedious. He's
obviously using a prompter. He's not very good at reading from
it. And he's, you know, it's not just Trump. I like
okay. All right. You would rather say hey, yeah, I'd
rather him say hey,
you want the funny guy you want the I want the other try. I want
the other Trump with the Trump makes who makes for good clips
that Trump? Yeah, I
want the clippable try the clickable try. I
agree. I agree. Hey, come on Trump.
So let's start off with Obama trying to do a stand up routine.
And then here's the first of all, anyone who wants to look
this up it just summarize Thanksgiving is a bogus holiday,
it was created. It was first created during Lincoln's
administration as a day of remembrance for the dead
soldiers in the Civil War. It's called Thanksgiving we're
supposed to give this it's got nothing to do within the Afghans
having a meet up.
Its act Massachusetts, it's actually a war Remembrance Day.
It started as a war Remembrance Day. And then it got re invited
re started every so often, and it became a national holiday.
After in from the 1930s they would try to make it a holiday.
And then I think it's finally codified as one maybe. Now it's
all it's all in the documentation. We go to
divorce.org/blog and look up Thanksgiving there's two or
three articles I wrote on it. But
it's now of course transition to a sales event. Well, now
it's a sales of it. That's true. When I was a kid, I never heard
of Black Friday, but the this thing about the Indians and it's
a thanksgiving for whatever, I don't know, it's all made up as
bullcrap holiday I've always hated Thanksgiving. For years
I've always hated I don't like having to make dinner. I don't
like having to always cook turkey. You know?
No, not true. Not true. You want to cook the goose?
I have cooked goose once. Yeah, so I cook but a goose is more
traditional with red cabbage on Christmas. And it's kind of a
German thing. Yeah. It's all in goose by the way is a fantastic
bird
to eat. Yes. Not
the same as a pet but they're very mean and noisy and noisy.
Let's start with thanksgiving. Yes. Thanksgiving Obama standup
routine. Let's get this out of the way. Go much
everybody. Please have a seat have a seat. For generations,
presidents have faithfully executed to great American
traditions, issuing a proclamation that sets aside a
Thursday November for us to express gratitude and granting
pardons that reflect our beliefs in second chances. And this
week, we do both. Of course, Thanksgiving as a family holiday
as much as a national one. So for the past seven years, I've
established another tradition. Embarrassing my daughters with a
cornucopia of dad jokes about turkeys. This year, they had a
scheduling conflict. Actually, they just couldn't take my jokes
anymore. They were fed up. Yeah. Fortunately, I had by my side.
Here today, two of my nephews, Austin and Aaron Robinson, who
unlike Malia and Sasha, had not yet been turned cynical by
Washington. They still in bad puns. They still appreciate the
grandeur of this occasion. They still have hope. Malia and Sasha
by the way are thankful that this is my final presidential
Turkey pardon. What I haven't told them yet is that we are
going to do this every year from now on. No cameras just us every
year. No way. I'm cutting this habit cold turkey. Thanks,
Obama, whose
worst thing ever? Yeah, so I listened to this thing where you
did the joke writers already leave the administration's at
the I think so
this was not material that anybody would pay for is
terrible. But he used the word generations, generations, which
implies at least 60 years because as you can two
generations 30 years or so, six years to be true. So for 60,
more than 60 years, they've been pardoning turkeys. Yes. Well,
I've been questioning some of this. So I'm listening to this
thing here. Listen to this Thanksgiving just
a second because I don't know if everyone realizes outside of the
United States that you know, as a part of the Bogut have whole
idea, you know, became a war on Turkey Day, and everyone has to
eat turkey and then for some unknown reason, which I think
we're going to find out now, the President of the United States
for as long as I can remember, has pardoned Turkey, so we're
not going to kill you. Turkeys, which is an odd thing, although
I've always felt it fits with our bloodthirsty nature.
I think so too. So we got a bogus holiday. Now we have this
bull crap about pardoning turkeys just really galled me.
And then you hear stuff like this. Here's the play this good.
This is Thanksgiving more BS. See NBC
live out the rest of their days on Virginia Tech's gobblers.
Rest, exhibit. Tater and Todd, my all time favorite Turkey
names, and I've been doing this a long time. So I've done a lot
of Turkey parts. We've seen a lot of Pardons a lot of turkeys
and a lot of pardons. One of the great traditions.
Thank you. So sir.
You know, we could actually, I'm sorry, go ahead.
I'm just sorry, one of the great traditions.
We don't pardon people, we just put them on the electric chair.
But turkeys,
what's one of our great traditions a
great tradition it Josh's question is, is this a great
tradition? Well,
I think I got one more tree clip. Because it turned out that
I guess I wasn't the only one questioning this bull crap about
the turkey pardons being a great tradition. In fact, that
tradition of naming the turkeys is only recent. And then in the
whole turkey pardoning thing turns out to be bull crap, and
so far as generations are concerned, or it being a great
tradition, it's worse than the holiday itself. Now we can play
this free clip, or we just go right into the explanation which
is a little lengthy. But coincidentally, PBS did an
investigative report on this and they came up with all the all
the real answers and we can discuss that after we play
Thanksgiving more BS Turkey pardon.
Before President Obama and his family gathered for Thanksgiving
today, he made time for an executive duty his final
pardoning of the turkey as commander in chief. The annual
traditions he's too lucky birds spared from the dinner table,
but only one is selected to take part in the ceremony. Malia
and Sasha, by the way, are thankful that this is my final
presidential Turkey pardon? What I haven't told them yet is that
we are going to do this every year from now on. No cameras
just us every year. No way. I'm cutting this habit, cold turkey.
That tradition has happened every November for the past
quarter century. But there's debate about how it all got
started.
President Truman was the first president to pardon the turkey.
But that's not true. In fact, the Truman presidential library
says Truman sometimes indicated to reporters that the turkeys he
received were destined for the family dinner table. Truman was
actually the first president to receive a turkey from the
National Turkey Federation. So who was the first president to
pardon a turkey? Lincoln, it appears was the first on record.
But it was a Christmas turkey that his son had taken a liking
to President John F. Kennedy was the first a pardon of
Thanksgiving turkey in 1963. Despite a sign hanging around
the turkeys neck that read good eating, Mr. President, Kennedy
sent the bird back to the farm. Richard Nixon also gave the
birds a reprieve sending his turkeys to a nearby petting zoo.
Ronald Reagan was the first to use the word pardon when he was
talking turkey in 1987. The turkey pardoning became
formalized in 1989. With President George HW Bush. Let me
assure you and this fine Tom Turkey that he will not end up
on anyone's dinner table. This year, the spirit birds will be
sent to Virginia Tech University where they already have a
prominent gobbler mascot on campus. The event has become a
White House Holiday Tree addition,
this is the eighth. I've had the privilege to meet and set for
him in
the Rose Garden. In 2000. Jerry, the turkey from Wisconsin,
sported a White House pass around his neck. Four years
later, the Bush administration also had some fun with the
event. The names of that year's turkeys were chosen in a vote on
the White House website as soon as an election were there.
And biscuits had to earn his spot at the White House.
Biscuits and his running mate. Gravy
prevailed over the ticket of patience and fortitude.
I hereby argue from the Thanksgiving table.
For his final Turkey pardon naming President Obama took
suggestions from the Iowa Turkey producers, children and their
classmates, the winners, Tater and taught.
Nice while we're on the other load of
crap, turned into a great tradition for generations. That
is bullshit.
And if you're gonna say anything, it's Ronald Reagan who
really set the thing off in 1987. How long ago was that?
Eight 910 1130 years ago. One generation
I think we can we can classify it as fake news,
fake news, fake
news.
Why everybody they got all the media goes there, and they're
all sitting there laughing at the funny jokes. I mean, why are
you wasting your time on this? I was stupid.
I have an idea for President Trump. Not even cute, by the
way. Oh,
the bird was angry. Pardon.
I have an idea for President elect Trump.
Because he seems to be doing everything differently, which is
good. It's confusing a lot of people
who I can think of two things. There's another bitch I had
about a year ago on this show. That certainly is also galling,
which is the saluting
Well, you do that in a moment. How about how about next
Thanksgiving? We I know I'm okay with the whole, you know,
thankfulness for our country and God and the Indians and the corn
and all that, but I'm okay with that. I'd be sad. We Christmas
to get Santa Claus is fine. But it's families come together, and
we're thankful. Why don't we do something really radical? You're
ready. You're ready. I'm just really radical. Why doesn't
President Trump next year? Pardon a person?
When that'd be a crazy experiment. Let's take someone
who's done something so horrific. We're going to kill
him. But we're going to pardon him and see if we can turn him
into a good citizen. Is that a crazy idea? That's nuts.
Come on. I just came up with that. I think that's decent, was
better than wasting your time pardoning a turkey and spending
half a day on this event. Half a day is spent on this event the
media comes in. They all sit around laughing at the jokes
about cold turkey. Wow, that's a funny one.
Now what if Donald Trump would have President Trump What if we
could convince him to not only do that but to build our reality
show around it the one we've always wanted which is the show
people getting killed on death row and then you can zoom in and
you know we do the big the big fall promotion for our show.
Then we I had been the president will pardon one of our
contestants.
We had to have contestants that who's going to get killed
us jails are filled with contestants. Yes.
He understands the mafia model he understands
totally understands the reality TV show model. Absolutely. All
right.
I just called me I describe sorry, I get upset by these
things. But I just find the bull crap and the you know, these
these fake news guys are the same ones now bitching about
fake news are sitting in that audience. It says fake news.
Less than 10 minutes to go.
Okay. All right.
I'm glad that we have the info right now because I didn't have
it last night. Here's the clip that I'm talking about something
big happening once again in the European Union parliament.
The European Parliament's upcoming vote on whether or not
to hold EU membership talks with Turkey has no value in Turkish
eyes. The country
you see my tie in with Turkey there like Turkey, Turkey.
Turkish is the country's president Recep Tayyip Erdogan
says Ankara's post Coolpad should
do that she says sees the way Trump always says it says say
says it's interesting. Because it is say when you say something
but when you say says it's more like says but this woman and
Trumbo say SES what is that?
The very year it sounds like I'd like a something you'd say if
you were just learning English. Yeah,
that's why it's well okay. Trumper There you go.
By precedent direct chat tiny Burdwan SES uncurl cooperage
pushes to have the Strasbourg body's largest groups to call
for discussions to be stalled, citing concerns about human
rights and democracy in Turkey. II Duan once again accused
Europe of siding with terrorist organizations and have double
standards. He said if we stay silent after all of these
events, if we don't say anything, the West will continue
to welcome with red carpets tyrants who salute the West and
who have blood on their hands on their label anyone who
criticizes them a dictator. He said Ankara exemplified EU
values more than many other countries in the block, but had
not seen real support from the worst. Founding EU members
France and Germany have consistently supported continued
engagement with Turkey, insisting that ending
negotiations at this point would do more harm than good. But
German Chancellor Angela Merkel added that doesn't justify
curbing press freedom or arresting 1000s of citizens. And
that's what we have to criticize clearly, but at the same time,
we mustn't cut the channels of conversation. Michael Merkel
reiterated Germany's commitment to cooperating with Turkey, but
said the alarming things going on there would be clearly
addressed.
Okay, two things about this report. The vote is now in that
happened today 471 To 37 to halt Turkey's EU accession talks.
This is a very important deal. Now you recall the Dutch had
their referendum about this. And everyone was quite worried that
well, they'll just be ignored even though all 28 member states
have to have to ratify it. I guess it's a couple more
dissenters now. Quite a few. And this is again, stopping New
World Order rolling up stuff shows. To me it shows great
discontent, and Turkey is pissed. So bad Prime Minister of
Turkey warns of tensions with the EU after vote urged
ministers to freeze talks on its obsession, ascent as ascension.
I'm sorry. Let me see if there's now the parliament's vote. This
is always a funny thing. So that whole body, the one we always
see Faraj speaking in front of in this report from God to The
Guardian. The parliament's vote is non binding, but represents a
dramatic step ahead of the crucial meeting of EU ministers
next month. So this doesn't mean it's not going to happen. It's
non binding, because that's, you know, the European Parliament
has no power.
Why do they even have a European Parliament?
What is the point they need a place for Faraj to speak? And
he's not even in it anymore.
I was really fantastic. And then just to call out globalist and
assholes. This happened in the United States just takes me
a moment to collect my emotions. He is a father
of mourning the loss of a son at this service for Sergeant John
Perry killed in Afghanistan by a suicide bomber.
Most importantly,
I want people to know about the heroic thing that my son did.
Stewart Perry says his son stumbled on the suicide bomber
before the bomber could reach his target. As soldiers 5k
Veterans Day run
he would have killed possibly 100 200 Who knows?
Perry says his son's death comes at a time military service is
facing disrespect. He says his family was even booed on the
flight to bring his son's body home and to
hear the reaction of the flight being delayed because of a Gold
Star family and the first cat class cabin bullying that was
really upsetting and it made us cry some more.
How about that? Is bull crap.
I was on one of these flights where they brought when they did
that they had a guy dead guy on there and they were moving
around and the family was on there. You wouldn't see so much
respect that people applauded them they they all sat down when
they got out it was there was nothing I would what were they
doing with us on Emirates I want to know the name of the airline
it doesn't make sense to me what they were well I've been on one
of these flights.
If you listen to the story, they booed the first class booed
because the flight was delayed Lee because of this. I believe
it John I'll work on getting evidence of course I have no
proof it's just what the Father said but why would why would he
lie about that?
Maybe they should the flights been delayed without explaining
it. And then they boom possible is that possible? It's
possible I also thought wow, how can but when he said first class
I'm like okay, but I can see a holes doing that.
No bosses nonsense. There's no way that down a normal airline
and any there's no way it would be. It's just not possible.
This is a bogus story. Okay. Okay. It could be fake news.
I bet it is fake news. Checks.
That's a local story. Local news. It's bullcrap. Okay,
angle and ban on one of these phases, nothing. There's nothing
like that happens. Okay. But I do have one thing Whenever
I might last I just wanted to read you something feedback
based upon your dirty ATM clip.
The nasty dirty ATM
This is from our producer road Wolf. I've always been mystified
as to why they use of copper or brass or bronze for door handles
and buttons have died off in the modern era. copper based alloys
such as these are naturally anti microbial and should be used for
ATM keypads, public telephone keypads and elevator buttons
just to name a few possible applications. There was a time
when brass and bronze door handles were even specified in
hospitals for this very purpose. I didn't know this.
I didn't know this specifically, but I do know that those Ella
those metals will kill bacteria.
That's what now I know why door handles used to be made of
brass. I didn't know that. Anyway, ATM buttons are already
metal or metal plated plastic in most cases, so why not make them
from copper alloy? My guest cost? Yeah, I guess so too. But
here
we go. It also turn green does.
Yeah. But when you think about what he's about to say here, you
will really want brass. This may be think of the story from the
subway system where I work. I was showing some contractors
around me one of the stations and came out from a service room
into the into the main public area. There in the middle of the
floor was a bloody tampon. We were all quite perplexed as to
how a tampon would have possibly been placed there. This is like
a Christmas Story children want to tell you about the story of
the bloody tampon. Upon returning to the shop, I loaded
up the camera and played it back to watch a woman in mid stride.
Reach down into her jeans pull out the tampon dropping it on
the floor. There was a garbage can only 10 feet away. Then she
stopped reached into her purse got a fresh tampon slipped that
into her pants. Then she she continued on her merry way
placing the hand she just used to do this on the escalator hand
railing.
Yeah. How disgusting is that? Yes. And is this a thing? I'd
never heard of it. Could be damn, pretty slick. Is
to coin a phrase. Yeah,
being well talking about that sort of thing. So they had the
Presidential Awards for free metals, just a brand and people
that I think
it was for outstanding human resource
was our standard. It was whatever it was for it was it's
a famous award and they give it out to everybody that Obama
wanted to give it out to. And so the Ellen DeGeneres got it for
some I don't know what to her.
Springsteen got one. Tom Hanks. It's a Hollywood movie.
Yeah, with a Bill and Melinda Gates. Were there. Yeah. And so
they given this thing as you'd be the last time he's going to
do this. And of course, Elon made it all about herself with
this interesting report. And then she did something that
we've never talked about on the show I didn't want to talk about
on the show, but I'm now going to talk about it on the show,
but you might as well play the clip and then we'll talk about
it on the show
may hold the highest office in the Lamba Kareem Abdul Jabbar is
still higher. Height, the President had to reach up to set
the basketball legend with his Medal of Freedom today, the
nation's highest civilian honor went to 21 Americans including
Oakland native Tom Hanks, Vin Scully, and Bill and Melinda
Gates really cool
to see Tom Hanks their comedian Elon tweeted this photo after
she was denied entrance to the White House because she
forgot. Oh my goodness, they finally let her in and she
tearfully received her award.
She also organized the mannequin challenge before the ceremony
with other recipients. Did you see Robert De Niro of course Tom
Hanks and Bruce Springsteen. Even Diana Ross was in that
that's the most that's the most famous Mannequin Challenge.
She had the most most famous selfie now she's got the most
famous Mannequin Challenge go well,
thanks to God is here five o'clock Lester. All right. All
right, John.
Okay, first of all, she doesn't have her ID How does she get
there without her ID D she didn't fly in a commercial jet.
Obviously they flew her in on a private jet.
Now I'm fine have left her ID in the hotel room
as possible. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt but it was
kind of and then she took a picture of it and she could have
gone back to the hotel room to get it now she's she she'd sell
feed herself. Then she did this stupid this. I don't know what
this is about. I mean, there's like the Ice Bucket Challenge.
What Who is it benefiting? Is it sometimes this mannequin thing
is this is stupid er than the Ice Bucket Challenge, where you
stick a picture of yourself. Oh, by the way, you can be moving
around and take a picture and says you're a bunch of
mannequins. That's what I would do. I jump in the air. So your
feet are off the ground and then take the pictures that is the
mannequin challenge. You somehow levitated and you stuck there
you stuck it right? What I didn't want to talk about on the
show because it's dumb. And it's another one of these things that
have good kind of gone semi viral people doing it. I expect
you to very Various podcasters probably do it. Yeah, but what's
the point of it? Well, you know, it's
something fun to do the kids like as fun that's what it is.
And the kids like to do that. But I mean I don't have that
much of a problem with it.
I tell you I don't have I do have a problem with I think
let's go back to I think the best of these which has been
around for the last couple of these things come and go. I
always thought the best one because I believed it was funny
was planking.
Yeah. Planking Yes.
Yeah, planking was good. Yeah, planking it's a version of
planking.
Well, I'll tell you this planking the Ice Bucket
Challenge and this is all elements of a depression. Ah,
the economic
Yeah, city bowl sitting
was a big one in the city. Yes. And there's what else
what else can we look we can set the trend what else was a big
one in depression time was a big was
was dances those dance. Like did They Shoot Horses, Don't
They? Yeah, the dances. Oh, that's. We couldn't do that. We
could do the dance a THON, like three day dance a THON. People
like dying
out. Yeah. Okay, that's a good one. And there's a family movie
wasn't They Shoot Horses don't say yes. I
was about those. That event. There was other gimmicks. They
were, you know, different kinds of magicians floating around
doing crazy stuff. But the poll sitting there was a guy bad to
have to look into maybe I'll come up with a few more, but
there was a bunch of them. But that's no different to me than
planking or Ice Bucket Challenge which did benefit a charity. And
is it as late as the stupid mannequin thing? Yeah, well, now
there was some time you won't see me doing that.
No, it's but you know, we're in our 50s It's so much fun. Okay,
well, with that. I would like to say Happy Thanksgiving to you,
John. Say hi to the whole family.
It's another one of those Thanksgiving shows where I'm
just complaining as well.
Everyone needs that uncle on Thanksgiving and we appreciate
you playing the role. That's good. That would be me. Yes.
And, you know, congratulate Bosco Jr. and Jesse on the
poodle.
Yeah, they get the poodle I get the poodle. It's great.
And you might want to start the conversation at the table to
tell them that they really should find out what it's going
to be.
Day. We did that last night. As a matter of fact, Dan here any
luck? Nope.
They want to be surprised.
All right, everybody, be grateful. Be thankful we're
still alive and Gitmo nation and our mental hygiene is high. And
coming to you from the crackpot condo here in this skyscraper
downtown Austin Tejas capital, the drone Star State FEMA Region
six if you're looking for it on a governmental map in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're playdough say,
woman who does brothel bathroom laundry, throws in towel. I'm
John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back on Thursday, Sunday, with another episode
right here on no agenda. Adios MoPhO knows
there is no story
bigger this week than Facebook and it's perpetual problem with
fake news on one person's fake news. Is
that a person's news? We are
not serious about facts and what's true and what's not.
You faked with me? Yeah, no. I think
if we can't discriminate between serious arguments and
propaganda, then we have problems. That whole thing the
whole production, it was all in. Hey, I'm shocked Jerry. Just
remember. It's not alive. If you believe God put up Why are you
laughing? Shut up. Shut up. Thank you. It's part of my
brand.
This very boring show can seem appealing until you take a
closer look much like the lunch buffet at a strip club, but he's
actually just a cheap tool.
All over coming for you. I don't care me as goblin guides to go
into the Washington. I don't care if it's goblin godson. But
if you catch him kissing goblins or in bed with the Goblin, you
know that's a problem or whatever he marries a goblin
when he has babies with a goblin. I mean, that would be
what Hillary did on the
top 20 Fake news stories was actually higher than what you
saw for the real piece
of their information in
sound bites and snippets site during his trip to Germany, New
York Times The Washington Post.
We are not serious after the washington post comments some
snippets back fake news to get more engaged. But snippets
pointing to fake news stories was expect Fake News. In some
snippets, and particularly a major social media bites a
snippet of the New York Times or Washington Post their
information in sound bites, the top 20 Fake news stories was
five snippets feeding fake news site, you'd
say the New York Times, bites and snickers eating fake
news bites and Smith Smith fake news
to get meeting onto the coast. That was one of the really
surprising things to me. I didn't expect fake news to get
more engagement than real news or better information by reading
fake news site getting the most engagement had only been
registered months before. But some snips for fake stories got
more for fake stories.
Fake numbers, the fixed sort of viral snippet, FAQ, sound bites
measure medicines, fake, amen. And I say stop. Stop it. Stop
it. And I'll say right to the cameras the cameras mac and
cheese like mac and cheese by iron Rand?
I would say that I'm surprised this comes directly from a
Wikipedia page. I don't know. Are you familiar with Wikipedia
the free online encyclopedia? Mr. Clapper? Generally, is it
the appropriate to take information off of Wikipedia and
provide it to the Congress plagiarized plagiarized from
Wikipedia? I would say that I'm surprised this comes directly
from when we ask the clerk to Please distribute exhibit one
and exhibit two documents provided as justification. But
could it be decision that the appropriate to take information
off of Wikipedia and provide it to the Congress? I would say
that I'm surprised that this comes directly from a Wikipedia
page. I don't know. Oh, my head generally
oh my god, fake news.
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