1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,010 but it's not an underground bunker not 2 00:00:02,010 --> 00:00:02,880 that you know. 3 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,310 Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. 4 00:00:05,580 --> 00:00:08,820 Sunday December 18 2016. This is your award winning give on 5 00:00:08,820 --> 00:00:11,850 nation media assassination episode 887 6 00:00:11,910 --> 00:00:16,500 This is no agenda putting the A in anonymous 7 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:19,230 sources and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the 8 00:00:19,230 --> 00:00:22,260 internet here in FEMA Region six Austin J house in the morning 9 00:00:22,260 --> 00:00:22,740 everybody. 10 00:00:23,010 --> 00:00:26,910 I'm Adam curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where Plato say 11 00:00:26,910 --> 00:00:32,250 man who recover submerged automobile, dip toe in water and 12 00:00:32,250 --> 00:00:33,030 John C. Dvorak. 13 00:00:33,930 --> 00:00:35,430 Raglan Buzzkill. 14 00:00:38,310 --> 00:00:40,890 Much sure I got that one. 15 00:00:41,610 --> 00:00:48,510 Pow. is recovering a submerged automobile? Yeah. Must dip toe 16 00:00:48,510 --> 00:00:49,770 to W in water. 17 00:00:50,339 --> 00:00:55,049 Wow, okay. Wow. Playdough man, I didn't know they had automobiles 18 00:00:55,049 --> 00:00:55,919 back in the day. That's 19 00:00:56,580 --> 00:00:59,610 weird. The facilities if you read enough books, you'll find 20 00:00:59,610 --> 00:01:00,600 out all this is true. 21 00:01:00,630 --> 00:01:03,900 The Insight Plato had is just it's kind of freaking me out a 22 00:01:03,900 --> 00:01:09,990 little bit. I had a clip on what did I have? That's something for 23 00:01:09,990 --> 00:01:15,540 you about that. Let me see if I can find this. Yeah. Now we'll 24 00:01:15,540 --> 00:01:19,440 get to that later. I got a lot of fun stuff today. John, I got 25 00:01:19,470 --> 00:01:23,760 a couple of presstitute podcast. You know, it's my new favorite 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,150 thing. 27 00:01:24,780 --> 00:01:30,090 I have a Oh yeah. I have a couple of fake news items that 28 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:32,070 are dead gems. 29 00:01:32,250 --> 00:01:34,440 Well, why don't we start off with a few fake news items. And 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:40,410 and I'd love to bring in a podcast a couple of clips from a 31 00:01:40,410 --> 00:01:44,490 podcast where as you know, the people who are running around 32 00:01:44,670 --> 00:01:47,280 reporting doing things behind the scenes, they always seem to 33 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,850 open up a little bit too far. When they're on a podcast. Yes. 34 00:01:51,510 --> 00:01:54,180 I want to back up a little bit because about five years ago, I 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,650 attempted to do mockery of podcasts, which you eventually 36 00:01:58,650 --> 00:02:02,670 nixed, well, they got me in trouble with a bunch of 37 00:02:02,670 --> 00:02:03,660 podcasters 38 00:02:03,930 --> 00:02:07,710 it was really mean. It was a mean segment. Like hey, you saw 39 00:02:07,710 --> 00:02:11,580 I guess unless laughing was unnecessary? Yeah, I 40 00:02:11,580 --> 00:02:14,010 think I was probably it was probably correct. But you have 41 00:02:14,010 --> 00:02:17,910 repurposed the idea. But you're doing it from a completely I 42 00:02:17,910 --> 00:02:21,060 liked this perspective, what you're doing based on a single 43 00:02:21,060 --> 00:02:27,360 claim that because of podcasting or being overseas, yes. That 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,880 also, if you're doing an interview in England, you know, 45 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:35,160 it's okay to say what you want as Americans gonna hear it out. 46 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,000 Right. And all that sort of thing is a good thesis because I 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,080 think you're Yeah, there's just a podcast yak in amongst their 48 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,510 friends is what they'd probably be talking about at the dinner 49 00:02:45,510 --> 00:02:45,960 table. 50 00:02:46,350 --> 00:02:49,290 It's yeah, in a way. It's exactly like that. And today, I 51 00:02:49,290 --> 00:02:52,590 have several things I have. Well, what let's do some fake 52 00:02:52,590 --> 00:02:55,080 news. And then I have two reporters from the Washington 53 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,570 Post. Who really started off this fake news. What do we call 54 00:03:00,570 --> 00:03:06,900 it? Fake News? fad, this style? Yeah. Fake News, fake news. fad. 55 00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:07,530 Yes. 56 00:03:08,610 --> 00:03:11,820 Everybody's talking about fake news fake. So I have besides 57 00:03:11,820 --> 00:03:14,040 just a normal thing where people bitch and moan about fake news I 58 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,210 actually have. Well, let's start with the fake news report. Which 59 00:03:18,210 --> 00:03:21,630 is a backgrounder. It's a long one. Okay. But it's a background 60 00:03:21,630 --> 00:03:24,630 or on fake news. That was done on RT, I thought it was a very, 61 00:03:24,660 --> 00:03:27,330 it's a little long. You can interrupt it if you want. But I 62 00:03:27,330 --> 00:03:30,270 thought it was a good take on the whole fake news concept. And 63 00:03:30,270 --> 00:03:32,010 I have to fake news items. 64 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:37,320 Well, I will say that, I mean, it's very meta of you to have a 65 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:43,230 fake news report from the state sponsored fake news media. Yes, 66 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,910 that's it that is added to the meta 67 00:03:44,940 --> 00:03:47,790 because def reports. Fake News, 68 00:03:47,790 --> 00:03:49,170 the fake news, fake news. 69 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,420 Here's an interesting fact about fake news. It does not have a 70 00:03:54,420 --> 00:03:58,380 universally accepted definition. The people who are pushing to 71 00:03:58,380 --> 00:04:02,400 ban it can't agree on what exactly it is that they're 72 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:08,430 trying to ban. So Facebook is at the forefront very soon, users 73 00:04:08,430 --> 00:04:11,940 are going to be able to report any news story that they don't 74 00:04:11,940 --> 00:04:13,800 like as fake news. 75 00:04:14,010 --> 00:04:17,460 If you suspect a news story is fake, you can report 76 00:04:17,459 --> 00:04:21,419 it. Wait, what is this? It was doing this PSA? 77 00:04:21,630 --> 00:04:25,380 I guess it was for some Facebook PSA. Nice just 78 00:04:25,380 --> 00:04:26,610 takes a few taps, 79 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:27,540 a few taps. 80 00:04:29,250 --> 00:04:32,460 Your report helps us track and prevent fake news from 81 00:04:32,460 --> 00:04:33,000 spreading. 82 00:04:34,350 --> 00:04:38,790 Enough people do it and it gets sent to the fact checkers for 83 00:04:38,790 --> 00:04:44,400 review. And here is where the drama starts. Meet Facebook's 84 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,320 fact checkers. ABC News, which was allegedly busted recently 85 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,330 for thinking a crime scene for a live broadcast. The Associated 86 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,820 Press the APS fact checking department is well they recently 87 00:04:59,820 --> 00:05:05,160 called aim that Assad isn't fighting ISIS. Palmyra public 88 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,580 quickly called them out. And the fact checkers were left Regnum 89 00:05:08,580 --> 00:05:09,300 faced. 90 00:05:09,540 --> 00:05:12,420 I can't help but hear this guy say fact checkers. It's just the 91 00:05:12,420 --> 00:05:15,630 Russian accent is weird, vague Jagers 92 00:05:16,020 --> 00:05:19,680 fact that fact checker that is widely accepted as being 93 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:24,210 politically biased example, they accused the Republicans of lying 94 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,450 nine times as often as Democrats, 95 00:05:27,570 --> 00:05:31,470 you are an embarrassment. You sully the reputation of anyone 96 00:05:31,530 --> 00:05:36,150 who cites you as an authority on fact, ation is let alone fact 97 00:05:36,150 --> 00:05:37,440 you are fired. 98 00:05:37,890 --> 00:05:41,850 So these are just some of the guys who are going to be 99 00:05:41,850 --> 00:05:47,100 deciding what's fake. And what's real for you. Way worse in 100 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:51,600 Russia. So far. No Russian press group is on Facebook's partner 101 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,720 list. Instead, there are two Ukrainian ones which are 102 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,660 presumably going to be patrolling the Russian language 103 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:02,250 part of Facebook. Yeah, they're going to be impartial, aren't 104 00:06:02,250 --> 00:06:07,740 they? Okay, Facebook is going to start censoring news, obviously. 105 00:06:07,950 --> 00:06:12,210 You mean? Well, we're no longer capable of deciding what to 106 00:06:12,210 --> 00:06:15,690 believe it or separate fact from fiction. 107 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,570 Did they get to a point? I think I saw this actually. Do they get 108 00:06:18,570 --> 00:06:20,790 to a point somewhere and they wrap it up? 109 00:06:21,270 --> 00:06:25,890 Yeah. You just stopped it right? Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, it's good. 110 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,150 All right, let's stop right there. All right. So let's go 111 00:06:30,150 --> 00:06:33,840 with a couple of fake news items I run into I find these all the 112 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:34,200 time. 113 00:06:35,220 --> 00:06:39,210 But before that, just playing into this. So the announcement 114 00:06:39,210 --> 00:06:42,480 was Facebook. And this, we read this right after the show on 115 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,990 Thursday, Facebook said, Hey, we've got a whole panel 116 00:06:45,990 --> 00:06:48,780 together. And this is how we're going to do it. We're gonna 117 00:06:48,780 --> 00:06:51,510 allow the community, the community can report what they 118 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:53,850 think is fake news. And then we'll go through our 119 00:06:53,970 --> 00:06:58,230 international fact checking network, which the fact check 120 00:06:58,230 --> 00:07:01,710 group and network is partially sponsored by George Soros. 121 00:07:02,130 --> 00:07:05,580 Finance, I should say, and Bill Gates, and oh, is at the Gates 122 00:07:05,580 --> 00:07:07,560 Foundation or Bill Gates personally that I don't I don't 123 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,280 know. Probably the foundation. That is the front and the top of 124 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,950 the list of people who are organizations who will be 125 00:07:13,980 --> 00:07:22,530 helping to fact check. Is ABC News. It was very fun. We have 126 00:07:22,620 --> 00:07:26,970 associated for us. And of course, pointer, which is the 127 00:07:27,210 --> 00:07:29,790 you know, is that a like a journalist, journalistic 128 00:07:29,790 --> 00:07:33,660 organization, it's a it's a blog, it's a very expensive 129 00:07:33,660 --> 00:07:36,660 blog, and Snopes, obviously. 130 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,720 Yeah, they do. Indeed, when the Russians did this report, they 131 00:07:39,810 --> 00:07:43,260 they showed a list that's a lot longer. It's like it is a lot 132 00:07:43,260 --> 00:07:43,920 longer already. 133 00:07:44,010 --> 00:07:47,400 Yeah, 40 people or so. But that's all the fact check 134 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:53,370 network members, but the top three of four of ABC pointer 135 00:07:54,990 --> 00:08:00,300 equals ABC pointer, AP and Snopes. And those are the main 136 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:00,690 guys. 137 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,790 Well, here's what's got you know, what's going to happen, of 138 00:08:02,790 --> 00:08:06,360 course, is that's every piece of news that's that's partisan, 139 00:08:06,630 --> 00:08:11,310 will be called Fake News. Hello, again, ended up going and when 140 00:08:11,340 --> 00:08:14,640 some stuff will be taken down for one reason or another. 141 00:08:14,670 --> 00:08:16,830 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, they're not going to do that at 142 00:08:16,830 --> 00:08:21,390 first. The way I understand is, it will, it's the continuation 143 00:08:21,390 --> 00:08:25,500 of the verified ID you'll have a verified article, which has been 144 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:31,950 fact checked. And if you have a piece of news that is has been 145 00:08:31,950 --> 00:08:35,670 fact checked to be false fact check false, then it will 146 00:08:35,670 --> 00:08:38,430 receive a I think a little skull and crossbones or something 147 00:08:38,460 --> 00:08:38,760 little 148 00:08:38,790 --> 00:08:41,310 Well, it's because of your 149 00:08:43,409 --> 00:08:46,589 let's, let's listen to our T's wrap up here. Yeah, 150 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:51,090 yeah, a separate fact from fiction. But you know, what's 151 00:08:51,090 --> 00:08:55,680 more worrying? This is part of a much bigger and much darker 152 00:08:55,680 --> 00:09:00,090 trend. If you're a person with unconventional liberal views. 153 00:09:00,270 --> 00:09:05,340 You are now being put on public watch lists in the US. If you 154 00:09:05,340 --> 00:09:09,870 run a website that and I quote criticizes the United States or 155 00:09:09,870 --> 00:09:14,670 Barack Obama, NATO, Ukraine, the mainstream media, there is an 156 00:09:14,670 --> 00:09:18,960 organization that is going to label you as Russian propaganda. 157 00:09:19,260 --> 00:09:23,580 This isn't some obscure websites it got cited by Washington Post. 158 00:09:23,670 --> 00:09:30,150 It's like the West is turning into 1970s, USSR, dissidents, 159 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:36,270 foreigners, the unconventional are now the enemy, a new 21st 160 00:09:36,270 --> 00:09:41,760 century information Inquisition, a digital witch hunt, where you 161 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,590 are no longer trusted to decide what news you should see. And if 162 00:09:46,590 --> 00:09:51,540 you think this isn't going to be abused, well, I don't know what 163 00:09:51,540 --> 00:09:52,140 to tell you. 164 00:09:52,829 --> 00:09:55,529 Maybe instead of a skull and crossbones that should use a 165 00:09:55,529 --> 00:09:59,339 little hammer and sickle. If you have fake, we know. It's always 166 00:09:59,339 --> 00:10:02,009 gonna be from the right Should I have I have a couple? I actually 167 00:10:02,009 --> 00:10:04,859 I would like to interject here because it was specifically 168 00:10:04,859 --> 00:10:09,689 about ABC. And you of course maintain the learner report the 169 00:10:09,689 --> 00:10:14,279 Lena report. Sorry. Lena report.com. Where is NBC right 170 00:10:14,279 --> 00:10:15,359 now? According to you? 171 00:10:17,820 --> 00:10:22,440 There were they were a month ago. They're kind of like the 172 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,230 way I see him there. They're one of the more crooked operations 173 00:10:25,260 --> 00:10:28,170 in terms of facts. Factual reporting, right. 174 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,880 Do you think that they are still pro Hillary or? Yeah, they are. 175 00:10:33,510 --> 00:10:36,900 I don't see any changes. Okay. They still have Katie turned now 176 00:10:36,900 --> 00:10:41,550 they got Cynthia McSpadden who's the hot the hot, top of the list 177 00:10:41,550 --> 00:10:45,000 for the hit jobs. And she comes on and she does these reports. I 178 00:10:45,210 --> 00:10:49,560 mean, I have a couple of clips from NBC, just from yesterday 179 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:53,370 that are very slanted and let's do them again then. And then I 180 00:10:53,370 --> 00:10:56,190 went in fact, let me give you an excellent Katy Tur. They're 181 00:10:56,190 --> 00:10:58,770 trying to I guess they're trying to move her around because she 182 00:10:59,070 --> 00:11:05,130 took a slot on MSNBC, to handle a to do some hosting. And this 183 00:11:05,130 --> 00:11:08,220 is the kind of dumb crap that you get on MSNBC, and I'm gonna 184 00:11:08,340 --> 00:11:11,220 explain why this is dumb. But just play this short clip does 185 00:11:11,220 --> 00:11:15,180 Katie Turner hosting clip there? Obama is going to come out and 186 00:11:15,180 --> 00:11:18,390 give a press conference. And then before this time she's this 187 00:11:18,390 --> 00:11:21,480 is a question she asked her one of their one of her reporters 188 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,220 that is on the scene. But let's 189 00:11:23,220 --> 00:11:25,920 start with politics. And our team of reporters. Chris Jansing 190 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,350 is at the White House briefing room. And with me on set, our 191 00:11:28,350 --> 00:11:31,800 Pentagon correspondent Hans Nichols, and MSNBC political 192 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,170 correspondent Casey hunt. Chris, you're there? Let's 193 00:11:34,170 --> 00:11:35,610 start with you. Does, 194 00:11:35,790 --> 00:11:39,330 will President Obama talk about this Russian hack? 195 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,910 If so, what do we expect him to say? 196 00:11:42,780 --> 00:11:44,760 Because clearly, we know everything already. 197 00:11:45,060 --> 00:11:48,180 Well, think about this. I'm watching this and they have a 198 00:11:48,180 --> 00:11:50,880 countdown timer showing that he's going to be speaking in 199 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,090 about an hour. So why would you I'm gonna just ask you as a 200 00:11:54,210 --> 00:11:59,250 hypothetical. from a logical perspective, the guy is going to 201 00:11:59,250 --> 00:12:04,290 be speaking in a few minutes. So why would you ask somebody? What 202 00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:06,990 is he gonna say? What do you think he's gonna say? What do 203 00:12:06,990 --> 00:12:09,870 you think he's gonna do? He's gonna be there. Why don't you 204 00:12:09,870 --> 00:12:13,350 just wait five minutes? And you'll find out? We'll see. What 205 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:15,180 is the point of this speculation? I'll 206 00:12:15,180 --> 00:12:19,410 tell you she had a 22nd teaser that was planned before the 207 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,340 commercial pod going into the Vblock for the hour. You need to 208 00:12:23,340 --> 00:12:28,080 fill it out? Yes, exactly. That is actually right. It's how it 209 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,160 goes. I know exactly. 210 00:12:29,610 --> 00:12:33,870 It's just when you watch it, you go what? Well, I find 211 00:12:33,870 --> 00:12:36,570 why it just watching anything these days become very 212 00:12:36,570 --> 00:12:40,110 laborious, because you turn on the TV and you can place a bet. 213 00:12:40,110 --> 00:12:43,290 You know, I was like, hey, you know, five bucks. It's Russia. 214 00:12:43,380 --> 00:12:46,560 CIA triad, then one of those words. Hey, listen to this for a 215 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:50,190 second. This is my first presstitute podcast. This is 216 00:12:50,220 --> 00:12:57,630 political prod podcast. And they have on David Brock. Yeah, David 217 00:12:57,630 --> 00:13:02,880 Brock, is the guy who started I think media matters. And Media 218 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:07,350 Matters is this organization that goes out and they fight. 219 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:09,870 news they don't like 220 00:13:10,260 --> 00:13:13,050 and with the way they say Hillary front organization, she 221 00:13:13,050 --> 00:13:14,850 is a large part of it. Well, that actually 222 00:13:14,850 --> 00:13:19,110 comes up in this podcast, which I found very, very enlightening 223 00:13:19,110 --> 00:13:23,190 and also odd that the way he just says who's paying for 224 00:13:23,190 --> 00:13:26,550 everything. And these guys have gone I think this is a meanie 225 00:13:26,550 --> 00:13:28,650 man has gone after Glenn Beck and they go off to the 226 00:13:28,650 --> 00:13:34,770 advertisers. And they tried to bring down news or information 227 00:13:34,770 --> 00:13:38,280 organizations that they don't agree with pretty much anybody 228 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,780 who's not a Democrat, left, progressive, whatever label you 229 00:13:42,780 --> 00:13:47,910 want to put on it. And so David Brock is on the political 230 00:13:47,910 --> 00:13:51,570 podcast of course, he's way too candid. And he's talking about 231 00:13:51,690 --> 00:13:53,880 you know, the because he runs he has actually doesn't run Media 232 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,420 Matters. He runs for organizations who were out there 233 00:13:57,450 --> 00:14:03,900 to literally create fake news to debunk real news to harass 234 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:07,110 people. And I thought it was worth a little Listen, we'll 235 00:14:07,110 --> 00:14:10,380 start off with David Brock talking about the four 236 00:14:10,380 --> 00:14:14,850 organizations he runs, including one of which is a for profit. 237 00:14:15,180 --> 00:14:18,960 Apparently he's gotten tired of doing all this stuff and making 238 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,240 no money so he's going to try and make some real money with 239 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,210 it. And he also gives us some insight into NBC. 240 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,020 So the four principal groups Media Matters is our media 241 00:14:28,020 --> 00:14:31,920 watchdog group. I started it in mid Oh, for too late to really 242 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,450 help John carry with us with boating. And I started Media 243 00:14:36,450 --> 00:14:39,240 Matters with the help of the Clintons who saw a need for an 244 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,580 aggressive media watchdog group after what they had been through 245 00:14:41,580 --> 00:14:42,660 in the 90s. And what kind of 246 00:14:42,660 --> 00:14:46,950 help do you think that was? Money? Money, money, of 247 00:14:46,950 --> 00:14:48,030 course just money but he 248 00:14:48,030 --> 00:14:50,040 just says it. I didn't I've never heard him just say oh, 249 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,470 yeah, the Clintons they paid for that set us up no problem. 250 00:14:53,910 --> 00:14:58,440 I started American Bridge, which is a super PAC in early 2011. I 251 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,920 was the first Democrat to plant The Super PAC flag after what 252 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,310 happened in 2010. And we got outspent and there was a lot of 253 00:15:05,790 --> 00:15:08,520 hand wringing among liberals about citizens united with 254 00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:11,880 and listened carefully, you'll hear that he's very frustrated 255 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,480 about money. He feels that he wasn't given enough money, he 256 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,240 didn't have enough money to operate, he probably could have 257 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,320 single handedly made sure that Donald Trump never even would 258 00:15:22,350 --> 00:15:25,650 would step set foot outside his door, if he'd only had enough 259 00:15:25,650 --> 00:15:26,160 money to do 260 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,830 it, you know, I disagree with but I said we have to have a 261 00:15:28,830 --> 00:15:34,290 super PAC structure. So we were successful in in helping to 262 00:15:34,290 --> 00:15:37,500 define Romney and 12 and less successful this time around 263 00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:41,280 which we can get into crew is Citizens for Responsibility and 264 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,240 Ethics in Washington. You 265 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,350 remember those guys? Crew? No, yeah, we yeah, we talked about. 266 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:48,090 I had forgotten about them as 267 00:15:48,090 --> 00:15:51,060 well. It's an ethics watchdog group that I took over a couple 268 00:15:51,060 --> 00:15:54,330 years ago, because the somewhat controversially, people thought 269 00:15:54,330 --> 00:15:57,030 you were kind of Yeah, well, people thought I was too 270 00:15:57,030 --> 00:16:01,680 partisan. And so Melanie Sloan right crew, Melanie Sloan was 271 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,050 the founding executive director, she wanted to go the private 272 00:16:04,050 --> 00:16:06,300 sector, the group was going to go under, I took it over took 273 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:09,300 responsibility for financing, it found a replacement for Melanie. 274 00:16:09,570 --> 00:16:12,480 And you know, they did great work in 16. They filed the first 275 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,910 IRS complaint against the Trump Foundation, which was 276 00:16:14,910 --> 00:16:17,400 successful, right word, the media attention on to the 277 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,100 foundation. So more about that, but we're gonna build this 278 00:16:20,100 --> 00:16:22,440 organization up in the Trump era, because 279 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:25,740 it is kind of interesting to hear that that all that stuff 280 00:16:25,740 --> 00:16:29,010 about the Trump Foundation, the huge million dollar foundation 281 00:16:29,010 --> 00:16:32,220 that, of course, yes, funds improperly and had to pay fines. 282 00:16:32,370 --> 00:16:35,760 That wasn't some journalistic work from your big from your big 283 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,390 news networks. No, that was a bunch of douchebags, trying to 284 00:16:39,390 --> 00:16:41,100 discredit everything they did the 285 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:44,790 work. On the right has a $30 million, your annual budget 286 00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:45,210 crew, 287 00:16:45,510 --> 00:16:48,720 you see a man, we need more money, and you might as a $30 288 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,810 million, your annual budget crew has a $2 million, your annual 289 00:16:51,810 --> 00:16:54,060 budget. And there are a lot of lawsuits and lots of complaints 290 00:16:54,090 --> 00:16:57,690 and you've gotten norm. We just signed up. Yes, we just signed 291 00:16:57,690 --> 00:17:00,960 up President Obama's ethics czar norm Eisen and President Bush's, 292 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,750 which I'm very happy about Richard painter, because, you 293 00:17:03,750 --> 00:17:07,350 know, like minded Republicans are a group that we're going to 294 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:10,680 have to reach out to, because this is now about small d 295 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,350 democracy. It's not about capital, the Democrats in some 296 00:17:13,350 --> 00:17:18,300 ways. And then I have a fourth entity, which is a for profit 297 00:17:18,300 --> 00:17:21,990 media company called shear blue. We've been running that for 298 00:17:21,990 --> 00:17:24,900 about eight months, the idea there was to see if we could 299 00:17:24,900 --> 00:17:28,590 create an avidly pro Hillary website that would work. So it's 300 00:17:28,590 --> 00:17:31,200 more pro Hillary and making the case for Hillary than it was 301 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,980 anti Trump will have there was anti Trump content. And he's got 302 00:17:34,980 --> 00:17:39,090 a million followers on Facebook. And it's a work in progress, but 303 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:41,460 which we could talk more about it. But I believe there's space 304 00:17:41,460 --> 00:17:45,090 for an antidote to Breitbart in this era. And that's what I want 305 00:17:45,090 --> 00:17:48,990 to do. That's what I want to do with Cher blue and less. George 306 00:17:48,990 --> 00:17:52,350 Soros and Tom Steyer give me a billion dollars to start a real 307 00:17:52,350 --> 00:17:55,050 media outlet, which is what we need in this climate because 308 00:17:55,050 --> 00:17:57,840 journalism is gonna be significantly weaker. MSNBC is 309 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:03,210 under pressure from NBC to toe to toe a Trump line. And we need 310 00:18:03,210 --> 00:18:04,710 some alternative media supply. 311 00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:08,340 He doubles down on that he doubles down no 312 00:18:08,340 --> 00:18:12,480 evidence of this I've been in fact, just coincidentally, NBC 313 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,480 has been the network I've been following on a daily basis for 314 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,720 this show. And then I'm gonna I used to do all three at once. 315 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,470 And I gave up on that because it was actually tedious. Yeah. And 316 00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:24,930 so now I'm going network by network and NBC. I'm working 317 00:18:24,930 --> 00:18:27,630 with NBC right now and just watching everything they do. And 318 00:18:27,870 --> 00:18:29,550 there's no evidence of this at all. 319 00:18:29,580 --> 00:18:32,070 I'm just gonna give you the double down here from David 320 00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:34,170 Brock, President of the United States will remain as the 321 00:18:34,170 --> 00:18:35,370 executive producer of The 322 00:18:35,370 --> 00:18:38,880 Apprentice. Yeah. Now we know why the apprentice tapes, the 323 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:44,910 rest of them are suppressed. The 14,000 on aired outtakes that we 324 00:18:44,910 --> 00:18:46,020 tried very hard to get. 325 00:18:46,709 --> 00:18:50,189 First of all, what does he think this is like, you can just get 326 00:18:50,189 --> 00:18:53,099 outtakes of everything. And you have a right to publish that. 327 00:18:53,099 --> 00:18:56,039 Or, you know, what we tried so hard, and we should have been 328 00:18:56,039 --> 00:18:58,649 no, he's blocked us everywhere. Because of course, Trump's 329 00:18:58,649 --> 00:19:01,259 executive producer, that's private material. Why would you 330 00:19:01,259 --> 00:19:03,149 want to get them in? No one's gonna give you that stuff 331 00:19:03,179 --> 00:19:07,139 aired outtakes that we tried very hard to get during the 332 00:19:07,139 --> 00:19:10,349 campaign. Yeah, I mean, that's an outrage. And I know that 333 00:19:10,349 --> 00:19:11,099 there are hosts 334 00:19:11,130 --> 00:19:13,920 out right. Now listen, listen, listen to this. This is the 335 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,030 outrage. Listen to our 336 00:19:15,030 --> 00:19:19,950 hosts, at MSNBC now feel they their jobs are at risk because 337 00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:24,060 the brass is for Trump. Wow. They've told you so. One has 338 00:19:24,060 --> 00:19:25,470 Yeah. And I've heard of others. 339 00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:26,400 Okay, 340 00:19:26,550 --> 00:19:30,330 I've heard one has bullcrap. What's happening is your ratings 341 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:35,250 are so bad. They'll do anything. They gotta get they gotta make 342 00:19:35,250 --> 00:19:37,830 some changes. Because the ratings are so poor. They can't 343 00:19:37,830 --> 00:19:40,350 put up with it anymore. It's costing money. Okay, that these 344 00:19:40,350 --> 00:19:45,000 guys aren't working for free. No. They play this NBC hit piece 345 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,260 on Trump and the Russians. 346 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:49,140 All right. Sorry. Yeah. 347 00:19:49,650 --> 00:19:53,610 This is from yesterday, I believe. And I want to touch 348 00:19:53,610 --> 00:19:55,530 where's the pro Trump bias on this 349 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,560 both about in Moscow thanks. President elect Trump has 350 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,190 repeatedly rejected you US intelligence estimates blaming 351 00:20:02,190 --> 00:20:05,700 Russia for the election hacks. Tonight we get reaction from 352 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:08,730 Team Trump to the message President Obama aimed at them 353 00:20:08,730 --> 00:20:10,530 today from NBC is Kristen Welker. 354 00:20:12,389 --> 00:20:15,539 Tonight mounting pressure on President Elect Donald Trump to 355 00:20:15,539 --> 00:20:18,899 call out Russian hacking in the US election after President 356 00:20:18,899 --> 00:20:22,349 Obama called on his successor to take a hard look at what went 357 00:20:22,349 --> 00:20:22,799 wrong. 358 00:20:23,070 --> 00:20:28,380 One way, I do believe that I do believe the President Elect can 359 00:20:28,380 --> 00:20:35,700 approach this that would be unifying is to say that we 360 00:20:35,700 --> 00:20:38,520 welcome a bipartisan independent 361 00:20:41,130 --> 00:20:44,190 process. But just moments after the President's press 362 00:20:44,190 --> 00:20:47,400 conference, one of Trump's top advisors digging in not 363 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,430 disputing Russia's at fault, but instead pointing the finger at 364 00:20:50,430 --> 00:20:51,360 Hillary Clinton. 365 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,420 This wouldn't have happened if Hillary Clinton didn't have a 366 00:20:54,420 --> 00:20:55,530 secret server. In 367 00:20:55,530 --> 00:20:58,320 fact, it was one of Clinton's top advisors emails that was 368 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,250 hacked and exposed. Not Clinton secret server. Trump weighing in 369 00:21:02,250 --> 00:21:05,250 on Twitter today, again, pointing to the DNC hack, 370 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,940 ignoring Putin whom he has consistently seemed to excuse. 371 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,850 Are we talking about the same cyber attack where it was 372 00:21:11,850 --> 00:21:15,090 revealed the head of the DNC illegally gave Hillary the 373 00:21:15,090 --> 00:21:18,450 questions to the debate that a reference to one hacked email, 374 00:21:18,450 --> 00:21:21,240 which showed Clinton may have been tipped off about at least 375 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,960 one debate question. Mr. Trump likely concerned that hacking 376 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,260 charges could undercut his victory has consistently balked 377 00:21:28,260 --> 00:21:30,300 at the idea that Russia is to blame. 378 00:21:30,540 --> 00:21:32,340 If you don't catch him in the act, you're not going to catch 379 00:21:32,340 --> 00:21:36,420 them. They have no idea if it's Russia, or China, or somebody, 380 00:21:36,450 --> 00:21:39,510 it could be somebody sitting in a bed someplace, and as 381 00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:42,480 a candidate, even seem to encourage Russia to hack Clinton 382 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,060 during his last news conference in July. But it 383 00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:49,050 would be interesting to see I will tell you this, Russia, if 384 00:21:49,050 --> 00:21:55,050 you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails 385 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:59,670 that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded 386 00:21:59,700 --> 00:22:01,110 mightily by our press. 387 00:22:01,140 --> 00:22:04,110 So Will his tone change tonight a top transition official? 388 00:22:04,650 --> 00:22:08,160 No, I look I'm I'm an agreement with you. I'm just telling you 389 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:08,700 what the 390 00:22:08,970 --> 00:22:11,760 I'm just pointing it out with an example. So called nice two 391 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,460 things I want to I want to bid your budgets before I get to my 392 00:22:15,030 --> 00:22:18,270 fake news clips, which we could we can stretch probably to the 393 00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:20,760 end of the show. Well, hold on. I 394 00:22:24,090 --> 00:22:28,080 just had to mix it by the way, in that clip, two things. I 395 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,490 liked hearing one secret server that was new, secret server. I 396 00:22:32,490 --> 00:22:36,540 like it. And Putin. Putin, Putin, 397 00:22:36,930 --> 00:22:41,100 Putin, Putin. So a couple things I want to point out one is this 398 00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:44,130 they keep playing the same old thing and I was listening to 399 00:22:44,130 --> 00:22:47,550 Trump's I listened to he's a if you listen to his whole hours 400 00:22:47,550 --> 00:22:50,310 when they play him on Fox and elsewhere where he goes to you 401 00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:53,880 like he went to Pennsylvania and went to Mobile, Alabama, and 402 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,420 he's and he's talks for an hour, hour and 15 is talks used to 403 00:22:57,450 --> 00:23:00,750 kind of peak out at about 45 minutes. Now he goes a solid 404 00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:04,710 hour of pretty much ad lib is the same material I compared to 405 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:07,320 two speeches. There's a couple of new things he adds once in a 406 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,500 while, but he's up to talk it's I think it's very charming. 407 00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:13,380 Nobody else has ever been able to do anything like this. Nobody 408 00:23:13,380 --> 00:23:16,620 talks Obama did did a thank you tour except it was more like 409 00:23:18,210 --> 00:23:20,130 like Worship Me tour, kind of. 410 00:23:20,580 --> 00:23:24,060 Yeah, it was and it was prompted it was tele prompted, I 411 00:23:24,060 --> 00:23:27,060 believe. Wow. Anyway, Trump's his teleprompter at the 412 00:23:27,060 --> 00:23:30,720 beginning to know it's not his Yes, it is. He just goes off on 413 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,600 tangents. But it's definitely I know these bigs. Last night I 414 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,850 watched I watched Pennsylvania, he had a prompter. That was 415 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:39,750 okay. 416 00:23:39,930 --> 00:23:44,100 Believe me. Anyway, he he goes off on his long sketches GUI. 417 00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:49,380 It's very, very charming. And in a very awkward way, because he 418 00:23:49,380 --> 00:23:51,720 says all kinds of crazy stuff that's got nothing to do with 419 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,820 anything. He's just joking around. And 420 00:23:53,820 --> 00:23:58,410 Doug, and I all always goes to the head. There's the fears of 421 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,420 this most dishonest people in the world. And he 422 00:24:00,630 --> 00:24:03,780 Yeah, he points at them. And they'll boo at the at the 423 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,100 reporters. And it's pretty much the same that he's done before. 424 00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:12,600 He likes to be up in front of a lot of people and talk and he's 425 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,540 right. That's where I've always believed he's closer to 426 00:24:15,540 --> 00:24:19,020 Mussolini than anybody else. Again, because he does the 427 00:24:19,020 --> 00:24:25,980 Mussolini looks he's got. And so there's two things. One is this, 428 00:24:26,010 --> 00:24:28,830 this, you know, Russia, if you're listening, and he does 429 00:24:28,830 --> 00:24:31,620 that Spiel there, all the networks are playing that over 430 00:24:31,620 --> 00:24:34,110 and over again, as though he isn't actually encouraging it. 431 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,390 Even though if you saw it in context, he was kind of joking, 432 00:24:36,420 --> 00:24:39,930 joking around as usual. But the thing that really gets me an 433 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,900 every one of these networks, every one of these news reports 434 00:24:43,140 --> 00:24:45,720 when they mentioned Hitler, and they are Hitler when they 435 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,320 mentioned Putin, that's a good good Rudolph. Yeah, when he when 436 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,250 they mentioned Putin, and they go to a B roll is always Putin 437 00:24:53,250 --> 00:24:56,190 walking through these huge gold doors. 438 00:24:56,639 --> 00:24:59,159 Yeah, were they were the guys opening the door for him? 439 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,000 Yeah. is a couple of stooges opening this massive these 440 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,780 massive gold doors they must be 40 feet high. And then comes in 441 00:25:06,780 --> 00:25:11,460 comes Putin and they all show the same clip of Putin come into 442 00:25:11,460 --> 00:25:13,500 these gold doors. This is propaganda. Yes 443 00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:15,510 it is. It's totally propaganda. 444 00:25:16,170 --> 00:25:19,290 It's unbelievable propaganda as though as though every time he 445 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,870 goes from groomed or he goes into the bathroom, there's gold 446 00:25:21,870 --> 00:25:22,800 or gold doors. 447 00:25:25,290 --> 00:25:28,560 Anyway, I just did people should be done to look out for the gold 448 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,550 doors. Just see them for okay, my fake news. Okay, we got two 449 00:25:32,550 --> 00:25:35,580 items. One happens to involve politico which has been 450 00:25:35,580 --> 00:25:41,250 discussed there. This is with Sean Spicer, who's at a 451 00:25:41,250 --> 00:25:44,160 political event. And he decided Sean 452 00:25:44,190 --> 00:25:50,250 Sean Spicer, he's been on the news shows a lot recently and 453 00:25:50,250 --> 00:25:53,640 you sent me a note one of the few ones and you were certain I 454 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,580 agree that this is probably going to be the new 455 00:25:56,580 --> 00:25:58,650 administration spokes hole for the White House. I 456 00:25:58,650 --> 00:26:01,350 think he's gonna be the spokes hole and I think is the reason 457 00:26:01,350 --> 00:26:03,900 we were seeing him so much. I never saw him a month ago. I 458 00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:06,990 know who he was. I think this is trial by fire. 459 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,360 Pretty good. He's pretty good. 460 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,180 He's not bad. He's getting a little better. I think he's, 461 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,370 he's, he's doing the right thing. He's doing it the right 462 00:26:14,370 --> 00:26:14,670 way. 463 00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:18,630 But he's, so traditionally you know, it's a very traditional 464 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,650 kind of sports hall 465 00:26:19,649 --> 00:26:21,569 guy. Well, you know, people talked about they're gonna put 466 00:26:21,569 --> 00:26:24,029 Guilfoyle Oh, no. 467 00:26:24,030 --> 00:26:26,250 Yeah. What happened? What happened to Katrina? Katrina 468 00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:28,410 Pierson, the little multicultural girl, she was 469 00:26:28,410 --> 00:26:28,860 good. 470 00:26:29,970 --> 00:26:34,410 She was discussed and so was Ann Coulter was this bullcrap? Yeah. 471 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,140 This guy's the guy. All right. I mean, I'll be surprised if he's 472 00:26:37,140 --> 00:26:40,950 not named. But here he is at a political event, giving them 473 00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:44,550 grief over an article they wrote about him. And this is a good 474 00:26:44,550 --> 00:26:47,430 example of him busting out some fake news. 475 00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:50,160 You know how many times it's something shared incorrectly. 476 00:26:50,370 --> 00:26:53,430 And on Friday, you know, excuse me on today's Friday, two days 477 00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:56,880 ago, there's a story that a reporter and political puts out 478 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,570 saying Sean Spicer disinvited Twitter from a tech meeting. 479 00:27:00,750 --> 00:27:03,750 Now, first of all, I'd love to say I have the power to 480 00:27:03,780 --> 00:27:06,390 disinvite someone from a from a meeting with the president 481 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:11,400 elect. But I don't, and they were never invited. And I was 482 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,030 never asked by political whether that happened. And yet I can't 483 00:27:15,030 --> 00:27:19,080 put that story back in the bottle and say, you know, and 484 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,650 and so, once it's out there, it's out there. And that's 485 00:27:22,650 --> 00:27:24,900 that's what I think is unfortunate is that the attempt 486 00:27:25,170 --> 00:27:30,270 to quickly put up headlines and plead provocative is not good 487 00:27:30,270 --> 00:27:32,490 journalism. Understood. 488 00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:35,670 Well, wait until I wait. Do you hear from the journalists 489 00:27:35,670 --> 00:27:39,060 themselves? They disagree with you, sir. vehemently. 490 00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:44,160 Now we go to one that's this is a New York Daily News bust is 491 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:50,340 the New York Daily News. CBS Sports and one other outlet are 492 00:27:50,340 --> 00:27:55,140 busted with this anecdotal story about something that happened 493 00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:58,080 again involving Trump most Fake news is about Trump and it's 494 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,990 fake. That's the kind of the irony of this whole thing is 495 00:28:00,990 --> 00:28:04,050 about, you know, this blast Trump with some fake news. This 496 00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:05,490 is a really good story. 497 00:28:05,699 --> 00:28:08,429 This is Roger Staubach. Yes, thank 498 00:28:08,490 --> 00:28:10,350 you were telling me that you were just with Roger Staubach, 499 00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:11,280 one of my heroes. 500 00:28:11,310 --> 00:28:15,660 I spoke to him on the phone. Earlier today. I tell you what 501 00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:17,880 happened. Trump is at the Army Navy game over the weekend. 502 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,540 Right. And he did an interview on CBS at halftime. And what he 503 00:28:21,540 --> 00:28:24,330 said Tucker was I don't know if it's necessarily the best 504 00:28:24,330 --> 00:28:27,690 football, but it's very good. But boy, do they have spirit 505 00:28:27,690 --> 00:28:30,780 more than anybody. It's beautiful, typical Trump. 506 00:28:32,130 --> 00:28:34,980 Staubach was interviewed by a writer for the New York Daily 507 00:28:34,980 --> 00:28:39,120 News. Here's the headline, start back to Donald Trump Army Navy 508 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,080 football players deserve your respect, not your insults. So in 509 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,190 this three page article, I'm looking for the i I've known 510 00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:50,520 Staubach for a long time. I don't know if he's ever insulted 511 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,850 anyone other than was a victory in the football field. And just 512 00:28:53,850 --> 00:28:57,750 so the audience knows. I mean, this guy, Naval Academy Heisman 513 00:28:57,750 --> 00:29:01,560 Trophy winner served the Navy in Vietnam. Our quarterback for the 514 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,070 Dallas Cowboys won two Super Bowls MVP of one of them. I 515 00:29:05,070 --> 00:29:08,580 mean, he is he's about as American as they get. The one 516 00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:12,750 quote in here Tucker says service football from Starbuck 517 00:29:12,750 --> 00:29:15,180 is extremely respectable and very competitive. They've won 518 00:29:15,180 --> 00:29:17,760 some big games. They're not the top 10 But it's still good 519 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,270 football. I really enjoy watching service football. So I 520 00:29:21,270 --> 00:29:24,390 called Star back today very successful real estate 521 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,230 businessman in Dallas, Texas, and I read him that headline. I 522 00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:32,670 said, Roger, did you say that? And here's what he said that is 523 00:29:32,670 --> 00:29:36,120 far from the truth. First of all, I don't think Trump said 524 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,410 anything bad. He had a lot of good things to say. I know the 525 00:29:40,410 --> 00:29:43,080 writer wanted to get into the anti Trump thing and I wasn't 526 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,250 going to go there. A story like this is dishonest. He did not 527 00:29:47,250 --> 00:29:51,120 insult Navy meaning Trump. I did not come close to insulting him 528 00:29:51,150 --> 00:29:55,470 meaning Trump that's why I don't even like to talk to reporters 529 00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:59,520 bill. But the cats out of the bag I mean, this thing is all 530 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,920 over the NAT inside CBS sports.com nfl.com that headline 531 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,030 and CBS Sports is this Stabat goes to Trump over over Army 532 00:30:09,030 --> 00:30:10,440 Navy game insults. 533 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,230 You read that? 534 00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:18,810 Now, I don't know much about sports, but sounds like some 535 00:30:18,810 --> 00:30:19,650 fake news to me. 536 00:30:20,190 --> 00:30:23,940 It sounds like fake news. And it comes from the New York Daily 537 00:30:23,940 --> 00:30:28,080 News and CBS Sports. These are big corporate names. These are 538 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,220 not little bloggers is not Breitbart. These are big boys 539 00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:34,830 and they're doing the fake news is where it comes from. We have 540 00:30:34,830 --> 00:30:36,090 to be aware of this. It's the 541 00:30:36,090 --> 00:30:42,870 real fake news, which is such a dichotomy in terms. Okay, then. 542 00:30:44,790 --> 00:30:48,900 And let me see. Well, while we're on it, I'll also do my 543 00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:54,450 fake news story. I have one I'm happy because we finally had 544 00:30:54,450 --> 00:30:57,720 some follow up now. I tried to find the original on YouTube, 545 00:30:57,930 --> 00:31:02,370 which was couldn't find it. And the reason why I will be told in 546 00:31:02,370 --> 00:31:05,130 the second clip here first let's see if you can hear this short 547 00:31:05,130 --> 00:31:08,220 clip Hello, Mrs. Nice 548 00:31:13,530 --> 00:31:16,350 that's impossible to hear. That is the Aleppo twiddle girl 549 00:31:16,350 --> 00:31:21,030 Twitter girl the seven year old who is verified on Twitter who 550 00:31:21,030 --> 00:31:22,800 is expected to be killed? 551 00:31:23,310 --> 00:31:26,790 So she's she's worried to 60 is gonna get killed. She said yes, 552 00:31:26,790 --> 00:31:27,420 she's on 553 00:31:27,420 --> 00:31:29,160 deck. And here is 554 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,510 the report same girl BANA al Abed and her mother Fatima have 555 00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:36,000 captured the attention of hundreds of 1000s of people 556 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,150 around the world via Twitter as they post about their dire 557 00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:42,690 circumstances in the shrinking rebel held area of eastern 558 00:31:42,690 --> 00:31:45,900 Aleppo. And now they hope to capture the attention of First 559 00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:50,010 Lady Michelle Obama. In a recent video message sent to NBC News. 560 00:31:50,430 --> 00:31:53,940 Fatima says in the video, I talked to you as a mother, I 561 00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:57,420 implore you to help us because we are so afraid. Syria's 562 00:31:57,420 --> 00:32:01,140 President Bashar Assad has said that the Twitter account is 563 00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:04,080 propaganda promoted by terrorist and their supporters. 564 00:32:04,290 --> 00:32:08,010 evacuations of citizens in Aleppo began Tuesday for the 565 00:32:08,010 --> 00:32:11,640 operation has stopped since pro government militia opened fire 566 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,050 on transport vessels. 567 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,750 So I found that rather interesting that if you are 568 00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:20,340 there in Aleppo and you're sending out tweets and you're 569 00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:23,160 doing videos that you don't put it on YouTube but no you send it 570 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,070 directly to NBC makes nothing but sense. 571 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,070 Like the way they said that the the evacuation has stalled 572 00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:36,090 because of pro government forces shooting at the dead the buses, 573 00:32:36,330 --> 00:32:39,810 don't you love it's just nuts. I mean, it doesn't make any sense. 574 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,160 But that's what they report is unbelievable. I know I know. 575 00:32:44,190 --> 00:32:47,370 This is just lies feeding the American public lies Well, 576 00:32:47,370 --> 00:32:51,120 here's how here's how rationalize beer I got an 577 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,260 intermediary play this. This was I think was a slip of the 578 00:32:55,260 --> 00:32:58,170 tongue. It wasn't meant to be said this way. But this is Dick 579 00:32:58,170 --> 00:33:00,630 Cheney was at some that Brookings or something and he's 580 00:33:00,630 --> 00:33:01,830 there with some other blog with? 581 00:33:02,460 --> 00:33:05,610 Oh, yeah, I saw that he had, yeah, their net. And it was 582 00:33:05,610 --> 00:33:06,780 Barbara Starr who was 583 00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:09,270 interviewing Yeah, they're talking about this and that. So 584 00:33:09,270 --> 00:33:12,150 here's what Cheney says, this is the Cheney clip 585 00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:18,420 the US military and reassert our responsibilities and our 586 00:33:18,420 --> 00:33:21,450 leadership role in the world. That's important, both to our 587 00:33:21,450 --> 00:33:25,890 allies, but it's also important to our adversaries like, like 588 00:33:25,890 --> 00:33:27,000 Mr. Trump and the Russians. 589 00:33:30,210 --> 00:33:32,760 Like Mr. Trump and the Russians, nice, 590 00:33:33,450 --> 00:33:36,870 unbelievable. Trump, I know is a slip of the tongue, but it was 591 00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:38,010 what he really thought. 592 00:33:38,340 --> 00:33:44,910 That's the truth always wants to come out. All right. So we had 593 00:33:44,910 --> 00:33:49,020 the Washington Post started off with his whole CIA says thing 594 00:33:50,250 --> 00:33:54,030 with anonymous sources. And I think you saw the guy on 595 00:33:54,030 --> 00:33:54,630 Twitter, who you 596 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,030 guys on Twitter, don't you think? Now you want to admit it? 597 00:34:00,150 --> 00:34:01,350 You know, this kinda guy? 598 00:34:01,890 --> 00:34:05,760 Yeah, that's exactly the voice. Exactly. 599 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:06,870 And, 600 00:34:08,730 --> 00:34:10,980 you know, I was just saying like, well, you know, FBI and 601 00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:13,680 CIA, they agree with each other. Now, you have to prove that 602 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,490 there's no wait a minute. There was, again, it was anonymous 603 00:34:17,490 --> 00:34:21,240 sources who say that or some internal memo that we have no 604 00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:22,020 copy of, 605 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,800 and nobody's willing to show it to us. And I went to the press 606 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,560 released of CIA does press releases, they have a whole 607 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,350 bunch of them. And I just say your go look at the list. 608 00:34:31,350 --> 00:34:34,260 Where's the list of good to see a press release? Lisa's telling 609 00:34:34,260 --> 00:34:34,830 us this? 610 00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:41,040 Now, it's not there because it's not there. Now. On the NPR 611 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,730 Morning Edition, he had two journalists both in the 612 00:34:44,730 --> 00:34:48,750 Washington Post who talked about their use of these anonymous 613 00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:53,850 sources they they both worked on the story and why they feel a it 614 00:34:53,850 --> 00:34:57,720 is okay. Be they feel that as well. They actually feels the 615 00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:01,620 way forward anonymous sources with In the government is great 616 00:35:01,620 --> 00:35:06,750 for reporting. Here is one of these ladies ladies names on one 617 00:35:06,750 --> 00:35:11,160 second. Their names kind of want to get them 618 00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:14,670 while you're looking up Janessa do want to mention that it seems 619 00:35:14,670 --> 00:35:18,480 to me odd that Debbie will say Secret Memo secret. If it's 620 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,650 secret, and you're revealing it. Yeah, there's issues with that. 621 00:35:24,090 --> 00:35:28,860 Yeah. I don't see anybody here holding a hearing well have it 622 00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:30,930 because it's not secret. There's no ma'am. Well, this is 623 00:35:30,930 --> 00:35:31,710 bullcrap. 624 00:35:31,740 --> 00:35:37,140 Have a listen to to these two reporters. And we will discuss 625 00:35:37,140 --> 00:35:38,730 as we go along three short clips. He 626 00:35:38,730 --> 00:35:42,600 was responding to our reporting O H, when all this past weekend 627 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,640 and into this week in which 628 00:35:44,670 --> 00:35:48,930 we does this woman sound like Fozzie Bear? Or is it just me a 629 00:35:48,930 --> 00:35:50,400 little bit Walker, Walker Walker, 630 00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:54,840 when all this past weekend and into this week in which we were 631 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,800 trying to stand up the story that the CIA, 632 00:35:59,130 --> 00:36:02,130 I've never heard that we were trying to stand up the story 633 00:36:02,130 --> 00:36:03,330 I've never heard this term is this 634 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,830 fancy bear thing has ruined this clip for me. 635 00:36:11,310 --> 00:36:15,150 I know that she has the perfect voice for print 636 00:36:15,180 --> 00:36:20,220 trying to stand up the story that the CIA has concluded. 637 00:36:20,490 --> 00:36:24,120 Russia not only intervened in the US election, but intervened 638 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,690 with a motive and the motive was to elect Donald Trump. I have 639 00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:31,470 spent the last several days chasing every source I have and 640 00:36:31,470 --> 00:36:34,410 the CIA and the director of national intelligence on Capitol 641 00:36:34,410 --> 00:36:38,550 Hill in the White House and the Pentagon everywhere, and got 642 00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:42,240 someone who agreed to speak to me at length and agreed to be 643 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:46,500 identified as a US official. This was someone in a position 644 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:50,250 to know who would only agree to be identified by that title. 645 00:36:50,279 --> 00:36:53,669 So that was carefully negotiated here is how you would refer to 646 00:36:53,669 --> 00:36:54,149 the source? 647 00:36:54,210 --> 00:36:57,480 Absolutely. You try to give the listener as much information as 648 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,450 you can, in an ideal world, you would say, this hypothetical, 649 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,740 not who this was. But you would say, for example, a current 650 00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:07,920 senior CIA official with direct access to the intelligence as 651 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,410 much as you negotiate as much information as you are, because 652 00:37:10,410 --> 00:37:12,990 that helps the listener weigh how much credibility to give it. 653 00:37:12,990 --> 00:37:17,220 Yeah, I know who that person is. But the more information you 654 00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:20,580 give, the narrower the circle becomes in terms of that person 655 00:37:20,610 --> 00:37:23,460 being exposed. And if I have agreed to protect that person's 656 00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:24,780 identity, you have to do it. 657 00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:29,280 Okay. So there you go. That's how the negotiation takes place. 658 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:35,910 But now, you of course, have to wonder. Well, hold on. Yeah. 659 00:37:36,629 --> 00:37:39,779 If this information I'm just going to take I'm going to step 660 00:37:39,779 --> 00:37:44,459 way back as you present this and asks, albeit with questions that 661 00:37:44,459 --> 00:37:48,959 are obvious to me, if the President is all jacked up about 662 00:37:48,959 --> 00:37:53,939 this, and the CIA and the FBI, and all the other intelligence 663 00:37:53,939 --> 00:37:57,329 agencies are all jacked up about this, how come they hit she has 664 00:37:57,329 --> 00:38:00,779 to go and negotiate with one stooge, who has who is the only 665 00:38:00,779 --> 00:38:02,999 guy who even talk about it, and it has to be completely off the 666 00:38:02,999 --> 00:38:06,959 record. If they're jacked up about this? Why don't they bris 667 00:38:06,959 --> 00:38:07,859 bring it out? 668 00:38:08,339 --> 00:38:12,659 Well, it seems to actually, it seems to be the way forward this 669 00:38:12,659 --> 00:38:16,739 question is answered. I think in the third clip, of course, you 670 00:38:16,739 --> 00:38:19,769 always have to wonder, are these sources do they have a motive? 671 00:38:19,769 --> 00:38:21,839 Are they telling the truth, etc. Basically, 672 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,800 all national security officials refuse to speak with their name 673 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,430 attached to it. That's their rule, not ours. National 674 00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:32,190 Security reporters tend to be senior reporters, they've been 675 00:38:32,190 --> 00:38:35,220 around a long time. They are pretty good at judging the 676 00:38:35,220 --> 00:38:39,000 character of somebody that they actually quote, without their 677 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,660 name. And that's how we do that business. It would not happen 678 00:38:42,660 --> 00:38:45,900 without it, because they're really not supposed to be 679 00:38:45,900 --> 00:38:50,130 talking to us. The only fire I mean, they could be fired. 680 00:38:50,670 --> 00:38:52,980 Just to give a little bit of insight into that the people who 681 00:38:52,980 --> 00:38:56,190 are agreeing to speak to somebody like Danna or me are 682 00:38:56,190 --> 00:38:58,680 people who have security clearances to keep the 683 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,010 clearance. They are regularly polygraph. And one of the 684 00:39:02,010 --> 00:39:04,740 questions that is routinely asked is Have you had any 685 00:39:04,740 --> 00:39:08,190 unauthorized contact with the media? These people are risking 686 00:39:08,250 --> 00:39:11,490 their jobs, their pensions to speak to us so they have to 687 00:39:11,490 --> 00:39:13,710 take a polygraph or they have spoken to you in some cases, 688 00:39:13,710 --> 00:39:16,020 they might have to try and lie and hope that the polygraph 689 00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:16,740 doesn't pick it up. 690 00:39:16,919 --> 00:39:19,259 Yes. But also there's an unofficial 691 00:39:19,379 --> 00:39:21,809 stop right there. Everybody stop. 692 00:39:22,319 --> 00:39:23,909 Does this make any sense? 693 00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:27,930 Well, let me ask you this, considering the rather large 694 00:39:27,930 --> 00:39:34,110 amount of anonymous sources in this past election cycle year 695 00:39:34,110 --> 00:39:39,030 and a half these polygraphs yearly or the annually, because 696 00:39:39,060 --> 00:39:42,420 how can you pass the polygraph? If you're telling me all these 697 00:39:42,420 --> 00:39:45,570 people are just are lying? And I said no, no, I haven't had any 698 00:39:45,570 --> 00:39:49,650 unauthorized connections with the press and then they pass the 699 00:39:49,650 --> 00:39:50,310 test. 700 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,710 Well, I mean, that would be a very, you know, high end field 701 00:39:55,710 --> 00:39:58,650 guy perhaps from the CIA or something which is not the guy 702 00:39:58,650 --> 00:40:00,180 that's going to be talking to these reports. Here's 703 00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:02,640 anyway, but they still have their clearance. And they have 704 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,630 to, and they have 705 00:40:03,630 --> 00:40:08,280 to take the test now. So we have to make the logical assumption 706 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,410 that they were told to go talk to these. 707 00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:13,440 Yeah, I told him it was authorized. That's the only way 708 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,100 you can get around that test. Yes, thank you. And, 709 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,960 again, and let's bring it back to the meta look, which is why 710 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:27,000 authorize somebody to leak some information? When if it's true, 711 00:40:27,450 --> 00:40:29,310 you would just come out and say it. 712 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:34,410 Exactly. And I think the conclusion is correct that if 713 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,980 they are saying on this, this is not authorized, and they have to 714 00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:40,860 do a polygraph, and they are asked the question, did you have 715 00:40:40,890 --> 00:40:44,220 unauthorized contact with the press? And they say, No, they 716 00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:47,160 would pass because it was authorized. Thank you. 717 00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:52,200 Thank you, John, risking their jobs, their pensions, to speak 718 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:52,590 to us. So 719 00:40:52,590 --> 00:40:54,720 they have to take a polygraph, they have spoken to in some 720 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,030 cases, they might have to try and lie and hope that the 721 00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:58,110 polygraph doesn't pick it up. 722 00:40:58,260 --> 00:41:01,350 Yes. But also, there's an unofficial thing that's going 723 00:41:01,350 --> 00:41:04,080 on, it's happened since forever, which is 724 00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:07,950 forever, it's happened since forever, forever 725 00:41:07,980 --> 00:41:11,490 thing that's going on, it's happened since forever, which is 726 00:41:11,490 --> 00:41:14,520 the government actually wants to tell the American people what's 727 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,210 happening. But they don't want to stand on a podium and 728 00:41:18,270 --> 00:41:20,760 announce it to the world. It sounds like an official 729 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,090 position, then they would rather use us to communicate with 730 00:41:24,090 --> 00:41:27,450 people and let us know what's happening. But in a 731 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:31,740 full round, I knew you would like that they will excuse me, 732 00:41:31,770 --> 00:41:35,190 they would rather use us the trustworthy media to do their 733 00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:37,320 bidding for them. That's what she say. 734 00:41:39,450 --> 00:41:48,000 That is a bold faced lie. Me sighs Obama keeps going up on a 735 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,720 podium, instead of making these illusions about the Russians 736 00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:52,320 being? Well, 737 00:41:53,069 --> 00:41:56,939 we'll get to that in a second. All right, last clip. And of 738 00:41:56,939 --> 00:42:00,359 course, you gotta wonder, well, isn't it possible that maybe 739 00:42:00,359 --> 00:42:02,729 these anonymous sources, you know, maybe there'll be sent 740 00:42:02,729 --> 00:42:05,459 there to lie to you? I mean, how can you tell? 741 00:42:05,759 --> 00:42:09,359 Do you blame the people you are writing for and reporting for, 742 00:42:09,539 --> 00:42:13,049 for trusting stories less? If there are only anonymous sources 743 00:42:13,049 --> 00:42:14,309 there? And should they trust them less? 744 00:42:14,460 --> 00:42:18,330 I think it's a reasonable question to ask, I would push 745 00:42:18,330 --> 00:42:22,050 back and say if anything, the reverse, because if I am using 746 00:42:22,050 --> 00:42:25,590 an anonymous source, I have given my my word that I will not 747 00:42:25,590 --> 00:42:28,530 reveal their identity. No, it will trust you. But I am asking 748 00:42:28,530 --> 00:42:33,150 you, the listener to trust me that I have done everything in 749 00:42:33,150 --> 00:42:35,970 my power to make sure this person is who they say they are, 750 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,270 that they have access to the information, and also to weigh 751 00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:40,080 what's their motive, 752 00:42:40,170 --> 00:42:44,310 but then a priest, couldn't they have an agenda that you or your 753 00:42:44,310 --> 00:42:45,210 readers might not know about? 754 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:48,720 Not only could they they often do, they might want to be making 755 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:51,870 one agency look bad by telling you something bad about them. 756 00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:55,890 That is true. So yes, agendas abound. But I'd like to make 757 00:42:55,980 --> 00:42:58,920 another point, which is I do think our industry needs to pay 758 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,040 much more attention to this, especially right now when the 759 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,120 whole media environment is very confusing. I don't think the 760 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,300 mainstream media like the Washington Post or even NPR, 761 00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:12,600 although you're trying to do that today has been transparent 762 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,380 enough in how we do our jobs. I don't know how you do that. But 763 00:43:16,380 --> 00:43:18,060 I'm certainly open to trying 764 00:43:19,049 --> 00:43:23,339 There you go. They believe this John they totally believe that 765 00:43:23,339 --> 00:43:26,789 they are the trustworthy sources that you have to trust them that 766 00:43:26,789 --> 00:43:31,319 they've gone to J school. And you can trust them. To trust 767 00:43:31,319 --> 00:43:34,859 them. They can weed out all the fake stuff and the agendas and 768 00:43:34,859 --> 00:43:37,139 the bullcrap is so easy for them to do. 769 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,670 Well apparently is not easy for him to do and it doesn't sound 770 00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:42,420 like they're doing it. 771 00:43:42,450 --> 00:43:44,010 No. Dole. 772 00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:48,660 Don't think that was good luck, a series of clips. 773 00:43:48,690 --> 00:43:53,190 I did pull a couple of clips from President Obama's presser 774 00:43:54,060 --> 00:43:57,990 cuz I found he said some very interesting things. And I had 775 00:43:58,020 --> 00:44:03,000 for you, I pulled out all the pauses to bring it down to 776 00:44:03,420 --> 00:44:06,810 acceptable length. Okay. So the President did like an hour and a 777 00:44:06,810 --> 00:44:10,170 half, he did a big speech talking about Russia talking 778 00:44:10,170 --> 00:44:14,190 about secure cybersecurity in general about the election. And 779 00:44:14,430 --> 00:44:18,660 when he started off talking about WikiLeaks, and the so 780 00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:22,200 called Hack, the way I heard this clip a minute and a half 781 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,220 the way I heard it, and I'll tell you what I heard and then 782 00:44:26,220 --> 00:44:29,970 you listen with those years, maybe I'm wrong. He says, 783 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:34,470 WikiLeaks already had this information. We knew they had 784 00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:37,290 this information. They knew we knew they were going to release 785 00:44:37,290 --> 00:44:41,160 it. And then Russia was hacking the information. So the 786 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,150 President the way I hear him says they already had this. Then 787 00:44:45,150 --> 00:44:48,270 Russia started to jump in and started to hack on the same 788 00:44:48,270 --> 00:44:52,050 information. And then of course, they stop because Obama said he 789 00:44:52,050 --> 00:44:56,280 caught it up, and that Russia Russia went okay. That's pretty 790 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,240 much what he's saying here. 791 00:44:57,270 --> 00:45:01,020 I think it's worth pointing out that I If the information was 792 00:45:01,020 --> 00:45:04,710 already out, it was in the hands of WikiLeaks. So that was going 793 00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:06,780 to come out no matter what. 794 00:45:07,859 --> 00:45:10,079 Do you hear that? So they already had, he's saying right 795 00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:12,119 there, they already had it. He was going to come out no matter 796 00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:15,209 what. Maybe I'm hearing it wrong. 797 00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:18,540 No, that's what he said. All right, thank you. Now, the 798 00:45:18,540 --> 00:45:23,160 reason that I think it was overlooked, is because I think 799 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:31,170 in in context, the way he blew past that was to make it sound 800 00:45:31,170 --> 00:45:33,720 as if the Russians at first already given it, here's, here's 801 00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:36,660 what I was thinking. The Russians had already given it to 802 00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:39,390 WikiLeaks, and they already had it. So that was going to come 803 00:45:39,390 --> 00:45:43,290 out no matter what. But since wiki, but here's the problem, 804 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,370 since WikiLeaks was the only one who released it in the first 805 00:45:47,370 --> 00:45:50,850 place. The Russians weren't releasing it. There was no 806 00:45:50,850 --> 00:45:53,460 Russian blog or anything, I guess. Crucifer. 807 00:45:54,690 --> 00:45:57,600 The President speaks of cutouts, you know, they use cutouts. 808 00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:01,560 That's Guccifer. Yeah, cut outs, cut outs on the internet. Well, 809 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,880 it will, it will listen to this thing. 810 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,140 worth pointing out that the information was already out, it 811 00:46:07,140 --> 00:46:11,760 was in the hands of WikiLeaks. So that was going to come out no 812 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,320 matter what. What I was concerned about in particular, 813 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:21,660 was making sure that that wasn't compounded by potential hacking, 814 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:27,180 that could hamper vote counting, affect the actual election 815 00:46:27,180 --> 00:46:32,730 process itself. And so, in early September, when I saw President 816 00:46:32,730 --> 00:46:38,520 Putin in China, I felt that the most effective way to ensure 817 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:44,310 that that didn't happen, was to talk to him directly. And tell 818 00:46:44,310 --> 00:46:46,110 him to cut it out. And there were going to be some serious 819 00:46:46,110 --> 00:46:47,160 consequences if he didn't. 820 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,650 I can just see that conversation. Amen. Cut it out. 821 00:46:53,070 --> 00:46:55,980 Well, you know, there'd be some serious consequences. Like you 822 00:46:55,980 --> 00:46:57,240 had to go to bed with no dinner. 823 00:46:58,350 --> 00:47:02,520 And in fact, we did not see further tampering of the 824 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,590 election process. Oh, but 825 00:47:04,740 --> 00:47:07,650 Oh, thank you, Obama. Yeah, thanks, Obama. He says to the 826 00:47:07,650 --> 00:47:10,110 bookcase, it wasn't happening. He told him to cut it out. They 827 00:47:10,110 --> 00:47:10,620 stop 828 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,290 dhondup. Thanks, Obama. Thanks. So bosses, 829 00:47:13,860 --> 00:47:20,580 but the leaks through WikiLeaks had already occurred. So when I 830 00:47:20,580 --> 00:47:23,370 look back in terms of how we handled it, I think we handled 831 00:47:23,370 --> 00:47:25,590 it the way it should have been handled. We allowed and 832 00:47:25,590 --> 00:47:27,360 then what's the problem? Well, 833 00:47:27,390 --> 00:47:29,280 there is there's really no problem yet 834 00:47:29,310 --> 00:47:34,140 enforcement and the intelligence community to do its job. Without 835 00:47:34,140 --> 00:47:40,800 political influence. We briefed all relevant parties involved in 836 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,820 terms of what was taking place. When we had a consensus around 837 00:47:44,820 --> 00:47:48,120 what had happened. We announced it, not through the White House, 838 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,370 not through me, but rather through the intelligence 839 00:47:51,210 --> 00:47:51,900 communities 840 00:47:51,930 --> 00:47:55,590 now hold on. No, no, he's not. He said, through the 841 00:47:55,590 --> 00:47:59,670 intelligence community's No, it was announced through leaks to 842 00:47:59,670 --> 00:48:02,910 the press, anonymous sources, it wasn't announced by the 843 00:48:02,910 --> 00:48:03,870 intelligence community 844 00:48:03,870 --> 00:48:06,510 got the press releases and all these agencies. There's nothing 845 00:48:06,510 --> 00:48:06,990 about any 846 00:48:06,990 --> 00:48:09,990 of it. This is a bold flate bold place, bold faced lie 847 00:48:09,990 --> 00:48:13,200 Census. It's another lie around what had happened. 848 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,250 We have consensus, not evidence, consensus jump, just say no 849 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,350 consensus, high confidence consults, 850 00:48:19,350 --> 00:48:22,920 we had a consensus consensus around what had happened. We 851 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,410 announced it, not through the key imagine, 852 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:31,980 Mr. Curry, we have looked at this case. And we feel the 853 00:48:31,980 --> 00:48:34,350 consensus is we don't need evidence, but the consensus is 854 00:48:34,350 --> 00:48:36,990 you're guilty. We're sorry, you're going to jail consensus 855 00:48:37,050 --> 00:48:37,410 is how it 856 00:48:37,410 --> 00:48:40,530 works announced not through the White House, not through me, but 857 00:48:40,530 --> 00:48:44,040 rather through the intelligence communities that had actually 858 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,770 carried out these investigations. And then we 859 00:48:46,770 --> 00:48:51,120 allowed you and the American public to make an assessment by 860 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,870 leaking it from anonymous sources as to how to weigh that 861 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:56,850 going into the election. 862 00:48:57,060 --> 00:48:59,610 Okay. I don't know if he actually knows how it went down. 863 00:48:59,610 --> 00:49:03,630 But he believes it went down differently or he's 864 00:49:03,660 --> 00:49:09,840 intentionally twisting the truth a bit. From this, of course, the 865 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,320 president needed to speak briefly about the danger of fake 866 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,670 news. And crazy stuff that people were garnishing or 867 00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:20,550 garnering from the garnishing that people are garnering from 868 00:49:20,550 --> 00:49:23,820 the emails, of course, in there also John Podesta's emails. 869 00:49:23,850 --> 00:49:29,040 The truth is, is that there was nobody here who didn't have some 870 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,020 sense of what kind of effect it might have. 871 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,460 I'm finding it a little curious that everybody's suddenly acting 872 00:49:35,460 --> 00:49:41,070 surprised that this looked like it was disadvantaging Hillary 873 00:49:41,070 --> 00:49:44,400 Clinton because you guys wrote about it every day is your phone 874 00:49:44,460 --> 00:49:49,890 every single week, you guys about every little juicy tidbit 875 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,130 of political gossip, including John Podesta is result of a 876 00:49:53,130 --> 00:49:53,550 recipe. 877 00:49:53,820 --> 00:49:59,490 Pizza Pizza. Sorry, I can't help myself. And then we have you 878 00:49:59,490 --> 00:49:59,580 know 879 00:49:59,580 --> 00:50:02,010 before you Go on, I still want to make that just for anyone who 880 00:50:02,010 --> 00:50:06,030 doesn't understand this part of it. These hacks, especially the 881 00:50:06,030 --> 00:50:09,720 John Podesta hack, in particular, was the simplest of 882 00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:15,420 simple phishing expeditions, where you send somebody a link, 883 00:50:15,420 --> 00:50:18,810 this goes back 20 years, this whole idea of having a link that 884 00:50:18,810 --> 00:50:21,780 hooks to malware that links instead of linking the word, 885 00:50:21,780 --> 00:50:24,810 you're here, read this, your I love you read this, remember 886 00:50:24,810 --> 00:50:27,720 that I love you, when this really can pop, hey, why don't 887 00:50:28,860 --> 00:50:32,850 you click on something or in this case is please change your 888 00:50:32,850 --> 00:50:36,120 password. So you click on some bogus thing, and it clicks and 889 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,490 what's your old password. And then as soon as you type it into 890 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,300 got bad guy who's doing a keystroke logging or whatever 891 00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:45,780 grabs it, and then logs in for himself and then steals all your 892 00:50:45,780 --> 00:50:48,690 emails. That's how that works. It's very simple, but it's very 893 00:50:48,690 --> 00:50:52,740 low. And this is not like high end Russian hacking. 894 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,260 It's something you would definitely do if you want to pin 895 00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:58,740 it on somebody, you could say, oh, well, they did that. That 896 00:50:58,740 --> 00:51:00,090 would be similar, no proof, 897 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,460 because they can't produce any proof. It was anything other 898 00:51:02,460 --> 00:51:05,880 than a 400 pound guy in his basement or whatever Trump like 899 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:11,250 to demean it with. But it's, it's that there's Podesta, the 900 00:51:11,250 --> 00:51:13,710 other one I think was the same. It was obviously some similar 901 00:51:13,710 --> 00:51:17,670 thing that happened, or was that Inside Job guy who got shot in 902 00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:20,790 the back of the head? Seth, rich, Seth Rich, and it's 903 00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:24,060 probably in fact, there's a lot of indications that hit was him. 904 00:51:24,060 --> 00:51:27,270 Yes. In fact, there's no way that any of these campaigns 905 00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:30,780 don't have operatives in the other campaigns. So that's what 906 00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:34,920 we talked about in the last show the DCCC. And it's that's just 907 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,250 the way these guys operate in the Republican ends who I blame 908 00:51:38,250 --> 00:51:41,310 for all this. Because they're the ones who would be the most 909 00:51:41,310 --> 00:51:43,950 benefit. They would benefit the most, and they don't care if the 910 00:51:43,950 --> 00:51:47,070 Russians take the blame or not. Because it's the Democrats 911 00:51:47,070 --> 00:51:49,950 accusing that them and then there's of course, this whole 912 00:51:49,950 --> 00:51:53,250 thing about the the RNC was hacked and that was a small 913 00:51:53,250 --> 00:51:56,460 story that lasted for a while until Rance Priebus went on to 914 00:51:56,490 --> 00:52:00,360 one of these shows the other day, and like last week and said 915 00:52:00,510 --> 00:52:04,230 we were never hacked. No. So why were the FBI in your office is 916 00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:08,310 they after we brought the FBI in? Priebus says to make sure 917 00:52:08,310 --> 00:52:12,030 that we weren't hacked and we weren't. But so that nonsense 918 00:52:12,030 --> 00:52:14,700 that the Russians hacked both sides, and only released one 919 00:52:14,700 --> 00:52:17,520 side is bullcrap. Just the Russians, I just don't see the 920 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,030 Russians had being that they I think they just let things go 921 00:52:21,060 --> 00:52:23,040 their own way. The Russians don't need to do any of this 922 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:23,430 work. 923 00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:28,980 Regardless, this story will live on in infamy as the election 924 00:52:28,980 --> 00:52:31,440 cycle, the Russians hack, there's nothing that that you 925 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,760 know, to use the phrase, you can't put the toothpaste back in 926 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,420 the tube. And especially when you hear the President saying, 927 00:52:39,450 --> 00:52:43,200 Oh, we are going to respond to Russia's evil, evil doings 928 00:52:43,230 --> 00:52:48,330 with respect to response, okay, my principal goal leading up to 929 00:52:48,330 --> 00:52:49,020 the election, 930 00:52:49,050 --> 00:52:53,220 didn't he say it was going to call him out? He's going to name 931 00:52:53,220 --> 00:52:55,890 and shame wasn't that the whole idea? I remember the 932 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,630 name and I'm going to call you out Russia 933 00:52:57,780 --> 00:53:02,250 was making sure that the election itself went off without 934 00:53:02,250 --> 00:53:06,480 a hitch, that it was not tarnished. And that it did not 935 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:14,070 feed any sense in the public, that somehow tampering had taken 936 00:53:14,070 --> 00:53:16,230 place with the actual process of voting. 937 00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:20,070 Okay, so he's saying really? No, it wasn't no difference. 938 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,370 You know, they're Adobe, their overall irony to me if you've 939 00:53:23,370 --> 00:53:27,030 got to be totally cynical about the whole thing, because when 940 00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:29,250 they did the recount, you know, a couple of them that got 941 00:53:29,250 --> 00:53:34,020 through those Trump picked up 150 votes more. Yeah. Now, is 942 00:53:34,020 --> 00:53:39,990 that maybe the the, the, the Obama administration actually 943 00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:45,300 did put to just clamp down on any possibility of the election 944 00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:49,470 votes actually being rigged? And that's what that's actually what 945 00:53:49,470 --> 00:53:50,730 cost Hillary the election 946 00:53:50,970 --> 00:53:52,530 is they wouldn't let it get rigged. 947 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:53,280 Yeah. 948 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:55,710 Hey, thanks, Obama. 949 00:53:55,740 --> 00:53:58,590 We accomplished that. Yeah, we accomplished that does not mean 950 00:53:58,620 --> 00:54:01,770 that we are not going to respond. Oh, it simply meant 951 00:54:01,770 --> 00:54:04,680 that we had a set of priorities leading up to the election, 952 00:54:04,740 --> 00:54:07,590 okay, that were of the utmost importance. 953 00:54:07,620 --> 00:54:11,460 He was busy is what he's saying. I was busy, I was busy. Now I'm 954 00:54:11,460 --> 00:54:14,640 going to you're going to do something about it. 955 00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:20,580 Our goal continues to be to send a clear message to Russia, or 956 00:54:20,580 --> 00:54:24,420 others, not to do this to us. Because we can do stuff too. You 957 00:54:24,509 --> 00:54:28,019 know, we can do stuff to you, but it is stuff Hey, man, do you 958 00:54:28,019 --> 00:54:29,249 want me to do some stuff do 959 00:54:29,279 --> 00:54:32,699 stuff to you. But it is also important for us to do that in a 960 00:54:32,699 --> 00:54:37,439 thoughtful, methodical way. Some of it we do publicly, okay. Some 961 00:54:37,439 --> 00:54:41,879 of it. We will do in a way that they know, but not everybody 962 00:54:41,879 --> 00:54:45,329 will. And I know that there have been folks out there who suggest 963 00:54:45,329 --> 00:54:49,379 somehow that works. If we went out there and made big 964 00:54:49,379 --> 00:54:53,519 announcements and thumped our chests about a bunch of stuff 965 00:54:53,909 --> 00:54:57,419 that somehow that would potentially spook the Russians 966 00:54:57,419 --> 00:55:01,409 but keep in mind that we already have of enormous numbers of 967 00:55:01,409 --> 00:55:05,339 sanctions against the Russians. The relationship between US and 968 00:55:05,339 --> 00:55:09,389 Russia has deteriorated. Sadly, yeah, thanks 969 00:55:09,390 --> 00:55:09,960 to you. 970 00:55:10,409 --> 00:55:13,649 Yeah, in the past few years. Yeah. There's your legacy 971 00:55:13,649 --> 00:55:14,279 aerated, 972 00:55:14,730 --> 00:55:18,150 sadly, significantly over the last several years. And thank 973 00:55:18,150 --> 00:55:22,710 you. So how we approach an appropriate response that 974 00:55:23,340 --> 00:55:25,770 increases cost for them for behavior like this in the 975 00:55:25,770 --> 00:55:29,610 future, but does not create problems for us, is something 976 00:55:29,610 --> 00:55:32,460 that's worth taking the time to think through and figure out? 977 00:55:32,490 --> 00:55:35,670 Oh, and that's exactly what we've done. Okay. So at a point 978 00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:38,550 in time where we've taken certain actions that we can 979 00:55:38,550 --> 00:55:41,970 divulge publicly, we will do so there are times where the 980 00:55:41,970 --> 00:55:45,750 message will go will be directly received by the Russians and not 981 00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:46,380 publicized. 982 00:55:46,439 --> 00:55:51,119 Why not? Just I don't I don't think it's 983 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,060 going on. And here's the here's I think they'd like to blame the 984 00:55:54,060 --> 00:55:56,160 Russians. I think there's a history. And I think the 985 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,980 Russians are just coasting because they can make him think 986 00:55:58,980 --> 00:56:01,530 that they're doing everybody makes them seem more powerful 987 00:56:01,530 --> 00:56:05,280 than they are. And we've kind of forget where this stems from. 988 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,130 And I think this is what everybody all the diplomats and 989 00:56:08,130 --> 00:56:11,700 everybody in Washington still think about, because this stems 990 00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:17,160 from the 2011 Hillary Clinton meddling played his Clint Clint 991 00:56:17,220 --> 00:56:21,570 Clinton, Putin 2011. This is when they they meddled in the 992 00:56:21,570 --> 00:56:22,590 Russian elections. 993 00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:24,210 Does it make sense that 994 00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:26,040 Vladimir Putin would have a role? 995 00:56:26,609 --> 00:56:29,819 I think we have to go back to 2011. In the fall of 2011, there 996 00:56:29,819 --> 00:56:33,059 were mass demonstrations in Moscow, protesting falsified 997 00:56:33,059 --> 00:56:36,209 elections, and protesting Vladimir Putin's announcement 998 00:56:36,209 --> 00:56:39,269 that he was coming back to the Kremlin, he directly accused 999 00:56:39,269 --> 00:56:42,479 Hillary Clinton at that point of paying the demonstrators to go 1000 00:56:42,479 --> 00:56:46,049 onto the streets in Moscow. So he apparently and his colleagues 1001 00:56:46,049 --> 00:56:48,929 in the Kremlin believed that there was US interference in 1002 00:56:48,929 --> 00:56:52,709 2011 in the election, and therefore, it's fair game to 1003 00:56:52,709 --> 00:56:54,359 interfere in the US election. 1004 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:55,860 Because that's, you know, what 1005 00:56:55,860 --> 00:56:58,470 can big countries do? Can something like this? 1006 00:56:58,590 --> 00:57:00,840 It's a big government, like all governments are consulting like 1007 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,820 this happened without his knowledge or approval? 1008 00:57:03,450 --> 00:57:05,580 I think he must have known on some level that 1009 00:57:05,580 --> 00:57:08,250 this was happening. I mean, hackers couldn't just have done 1010 00:57:08,250 --> 00:57:11,040 this freelance without at least having a sense that this was 1011 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,850 permitted. Whether he personally directed it, I think that's much 1012 00:57:14,850 --> 00:57:17,550 more difficult to say, I haven't seen the evidence none of us 1013 00:57:17,550 --> 00:57:17,880 have. 1014 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,050 We've had, yeah, none of us have seen any evidence of anything. 1015 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:27,600 I did find a clip that talks about the one piece of evidence, 1016 00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:31,950 that is actually the genesis for blaming this on the Russians. 1017 00:57:33,090 --> 00:57:36,090 There is a piece of evidence that is, well, it's 1018 00:57:36,090 --> 00:57:38,910 circumstantial, at best, but it's real evidence. And Julian 1019 00:57:38,910 --> 00:57:42,480 Assange, Julian Assange talked about it, I want to play this. 1020 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,820 This is, according to them, what the entire thesis of Russian 1021 00:57:47,820 --> 00:57:51,180 hacking is based on it's based on the conversion of some of 1022 00:57:51,180 --> 00:57:53,220 these documents, some of these emails. 1023 00:57:53,730 --> 00:57:57,570 Now in the middle, we have something which is the 1024 00:57:57,570 --> 00:58:02,100 publication by other media organizations of information, 1025 00:58:02,820 --> 00:58:08,430 purportedly from the DNC. And that seems to be the case. So 1026 00:58:08,430 --> 00:58:11,970 that's a series of Word documents from PDFs published by 1027 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:17,070 the hill, like Gorka, by the smoking gun. This is a 1028 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:23,370 completely separate batch of documents, compared to the 1029 00:58:23,370 --> 00:58:28,320 20,000 pristine emails that we had really weeklies, in this 1030 00:58:28,350 --> 00:58:33,570 batch of documents released by these other media organizations. 1031 00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:40,650 There are claims that in the metadata, there's someone's done 1032 00:58:40,650 --> 00:58:45,990 a document to PDF conversion. And the in some cases, the 1033 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,830 documents, the language of the computer that was used for that 1034 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:59,100 conversion was Russian. Okay, so that's the circumstantial 1035 00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:05,160 evidence that some Russian was involved. Or someone who wanted 1036 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,040 to make it look like a Russian was involved with these other 1037 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,840 media organizations. That's not the case for the material that 1038 00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:13,590 we released. 1039 00:59:14,310 --> 00:59:20,100 So that is an interesting little tidbit. That the conversion from 1040 00:59:20,700 --> 00:59:24,390 Word doc are PDFs, that there were some Russian characters in 1041 00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:27,180 the file that were translated along with them, meaning that 1042 00:59:27,180 --> 00:59:29,340 there was someone had used a Russian version. 1043 00:59:30,030 --> 00:59:32,790 I was in the metadata of a lot of these things, especially the 1044 00:59:32,790 --> 00:59:36,090 Adobe products, but also in Microsoft pricer. There will be 1045 00:59:36,090 --> 00:59:41,460 like your name, the version of the software, what language 1046 00:59:41,460 --> 00:59:44,430 you're using, all that stuff will be there very clearly laid 1047 00:59:44,430 --> 00:59:46,890 out. It wasn't like anything leftover. It's just in there. 1048 00:59:47,070 --> 00:59:49,410 And you always have to go into metadata. The same thing with 1049 00:59:49,410 --> 00:59:52,830 JPEGs. There's a lot of information that you could stick 1050 00:59:52,830 --> 00:59:53,760 into the metadata, 1051 00:59:54,510 --> 00:59:57,480 and also the EXIF information, sometimes with little or 1052 00:59:57,509 --> 01:00:00,809 all of it. There's a lot of stuff. Okay, Some of it tell you 1053 01:00:00,809 --> 01:00:03,239 the focal length of the lens and, 1054 01:00:03,420 --> 01:00:09,540 you know, your flash, all that stuff. One person who was very 1055 01:00:09,540 --> 01:00:12,210 disappointed the President is not immediately going in bombing 1056 01:00:12,210 --> 01:00:16,920 Russia appeared on ABC, because let's be honest, she can't go on 1057 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,480 CNN anymore. That is the lying sack known as Donna Brazil, who 1058 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:26,640 of course, her emails were also published. And it showed that 1059 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,760 she had given not one but two questions to the Clinton 1060 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,210 campaign that were coming up in a debate. So she is she is 1061 01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:38,670 dishonest person, dishonest. And she goes on ABC with Martha 1062 01:00:38,670 --> 01:00:41,730 Raddatz, and she just like it never happened. You know, she's 1063 01:00:41,730 --> 01:00:43,740 a victim, of course. And yeah. 1064 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,800 Look, I think the President is right to call for a full 1065 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,920 investigation, every federal agency involved should be should 1066 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,990 put everything on the table and the Democratic Party will put 1067 01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:57,240 everything on the table. They came after us daily, hourly. And 1068 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,150 there were times when we thought they would penetrate us and we 1069 01:01:00,150 --> 01:01:02,040 would have another breach. But 1070 01:01:02,070 --> 01:01:05,100 we had a great president didn't know they were continuing. You 1071 01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:05,760 said they were known 1072 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,780 what when I saw the President, I was a little disappointed that, 1073 01:01:09,810 --> 01:01:13,140 you know, we were on the constant attack. We never felt 1074 01:01:13,170 --> 01:01:16,770 comfortable. We didn't know what was coming next. And you know, 1075 01:01:16,860 --> 01:01:21,540 this is not just about computers. This is individuals 1076 01:01:21,540 --> 01:01:25,950 is harassment of our candidates, harassment of our donors. We had 1077 01:01:25,950 --> 01:01:28,950 stolen information, personal information. People were 1078 01:01:28,980 --> 01:01:32,700 personally harassed. So are you disappointed in the President's 1079 01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:33,330 response? 1080 01:01:34,530 --> 01:01:39,300 She said we had she said we had stolen information. She didn't 1081 01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:41,580 say we had information stolen from us. 1082 01:01:42,990 --> 01:01:46,290 Good catch. We had stolen information. We were fencing. 1083 01:01:46,290 --> 01:01:46,380 Are 1084 01:01:46,379 --> 01:01:49,469 you disappointed in the President's response? 1085 01:01:49,620 --> 01:01:53,250 I'm glad that we went through this process the country went 1086 01:01:53,250 --> 01:01:54,180 through this process. 1087 01:01:54,270 --> 01:01:56,280 But are you disappointed in his response? 1088 01:01:56,310 --> 01:01:59,760 You know, mas I don't person that this was we were attacked 1089 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,720 by a foreign adversary. And I think it's the responsibility of 1090 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,260 the government to help individual citizens as well as 1091 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,530 institutions nonprofits corporation to protect 1092 01:02:11,910 --> 01:02:13,170 Thanks, Obama. Yeah, 1093 01:02:13,259 --> 01:02:20,669 sure. You need to be protected. There, you Cheater. Cheater does 1094 01:02:20,669 --> 01:02:21,209 a cheat. 1095 01:02:21,930 --> 01:02:26,400 NBC had they were putting a lot of these different segments. And 1096 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,390 they did. The one thing I want the Obamas letting it rip 1097 01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:32,580 against Russia little commentary, which I thought was 1098 01:02:32,580 --> 01:02:35,850 completely uncalled for, and incredibly insulting. And you 1099 01:02:35,850 --> 01:02:40,410 wonder why we have such mediocre relations with Russia. When you 1100 01:02:40,410 --> 01:02:43,830 have something like this. This is NBC final, Obama let it rip 1101 01:02:43,830 --> 01:02:44,310 clip. 1102 01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:48,000 They are a smaller country. They're a weaker country, their 1103 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,300 economy. Yeah. doesn't produce anything that anybody wants to 1104 01:02:51,300 --> 01:02:51,630 buy. 1105 01:02:51,870 --> 01:02:53,310 This is a low point in you. 1106 01:02:53,310 --> 01:02:57,060 Oh, man, they cut off the best part. Oh, shoot. 1107 01:02:57,450 --> 01:02:58,290 What's the best part? 1108 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:03,330 You see if I have it? Yeah, I have it. Hold on, hold on, then 1109 01:03:03,330 --> 01:03:05,970 I'll go back to your clip, they cut off a really good part of 1110 01:03:05,970 --> 01:03:06,960 that, just as 1111 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,920 I told Russia to stop it, and indicated there will be 1112 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:15,570 consequences when they do it. The Chinese have in the past 1113 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:20,340 engaged in cyber attacks cyber directed at our companies to 1114 01:03:20,340 --> 01:03:24,090 steal trade secrets and proprietary technology. And I 1115 01:03:24,090 --> 01:03:27,510 had to have the same conversation with Prime Minister 1116 01:03:27,570 --> 01:03:28,890 or with President Xi. 1117 01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:32,970 Yeah, he said cut it out ZG cheesy, whatever your name is 1118 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,650 Prime Minister President cut it out, man. 1119 01:03:34,890 --> 01:03:38,400 And what we've seen is some evidence, 1120 01:03:38,430 --> 01:03:41,520 you know, they stood really they didn't really stop deuced 1121 01:03:42,060 --> 01:03:45,360 but not completely eliminate these activities, partly because 1122 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,390 they can use cutouts. One of the problems with kind of the 1123 01:03:48,390 --> 01:03:51,600 internet and cyber issues is there's not always a return 1124 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,980 address. And by the time you catch up to it, attributing what 1125 01:03:55,980 --> 01:03:56,820 happened to 1126 01:03:56,879 --> 01:04:00,719 our particular governor. It's not in here. Okay, what he said 1127 01:04:00,719 --> 01:04:04,229 was here, I will finish his statement based on your clip 1128 01:04:04,229 --> 01:04:05,999 down. I'm sorry, I thought it was in this one. Where is it 1129 01:04:05,999 --> 01:04:11,159 again? It is MDC. Allama. Let's rip. Okay, because they cut it 1130 01:04:11,159 --> 01:04:11,459 out. 1131 01:04:11,490 --> 01:04:14,790 We're a smaller country. They're a weaker country. Their economy 1132 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,790 doesn't produce anything that anybody wants to buy. 1133 01:04:18,930 --> 01:04:26,700 Except oil, gas and some arms. Yeah, well, we do. I know. You 1134 01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:29,880 mean, their competitor to us is what you're saying? Oil, Gas and 1135 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,970 some arms? Yeah, that's our GDP. 1136 01:04:34,770 --> 01:04:37,590 Yeah, no, that was ironic. It was very funny. You're right. 1137 01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:39,240 I'll say, Oh, I 1138 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,580 will. That's why they cut it out. This is NBC. They're very 1139 01:04:41,580 --> 01:04:44,760 slanted. Yeah. They're not going to make it obvious that you 1140 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,530 know, you don't have a bunch of guys sitting there watching the 1141 01:04:46,530 --> 01:04:51,630 news and delivering punch lines. Do that on purpose. I got 1142 01:04:51,630 --> 01:04:54,180 a clip that explains the President's use of ISIL instead 1143 01:04:54,180 --> 01:04:58,680 of ISIS. Oh, okay. Yeah, I was waiting for this explanation. 1144 01:04:59,010 --> 01:05:01,860 And this comes from that A new guy who apparently has been on 1145 01:05:01,860 --> 01:05:06,030 Fox a lot Sebastian Gorka. He seems to be like, you know, he 1146 01:05:06,030 --> 01:05:10,380 had orca showing up a lot. So we got to keep our eye on him from 1147 01:05:10,410 --> 01:05:13,380 for multiple reasons. But I did like his explanation of why the 1148 01:05:13,380 --> 01:05:15,870 President uses ISIL and not ISIS. 1149 01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:18,990 You've been in touch with the transition team. You've talked 1150 01:05:18,990 --> 01:05:22,680 about radical Islam. You believe it's something we can defeat. 1151 01:05:22,890 --> 01:05:25,740 Obama was out there to press it today saying he took the best 1152 01:05:25,740 --> 01:05:29,310 course in Syria. Really? Do you agree with that assessment? 1153 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,130 No, because I live in the real world. Sure. 1154 01:05:32,670 --> 01:05:34,950 It's a it's a catastrophe. 1155 01:05:35,250 --> 01:05:40,140 Remember the red lines? The real reason he calls it ISIL and not 1156 01:05:40,140 --> 01:05:43,530 ISIS? What is what is the reason? The real reason is 1157 01:05:43,530 --> 01:05:46,500 because he doesn't want to remind people that S stands for 1158 01:05:46,500 --> 01:05:51,030 Syria right now. He drew the red lines again and again and again. 1159 01:05:51,030 --> 01:05:51,210 And 1160 01:05:51,510 --> 01:05:55,320 that makes nothing but sense. He doesn't he doesn't want to 1161 01:05:55,320 --> 01:06:00,210 remind people it's Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. He wants to 1162 01:06:00,210 --> 01:06:04,230 be Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant. Yeah, please don't 1163 01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:08,310 mention the S word. Hey, it's as good as any. 1164 01:06:08,820 --> 01:06:11,910 That's fine. That guy's just horrible. He sounds like you 1165 01:06:11,910 --> 01:06:15,960 know, he sounds like I saw an interview with Tom Ford. Oh, 1166 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:16,530 yeah. He's 1167 01:06:16,530 --> 01:06:19,500 Yeah, he's a designer. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah. 1168 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,730 And the guy sounds just like me is extremely kind of smug. 1169 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,130 That was the interviewer. He said, every man should be 1170 01:06:26,130 --> 01:06:29,610 penetrated Ainley at least once in his life to know what it's 1171 01:06:29,610 --> 01:06:32,820 like to be a woman. I swear. That's what he said. Tom Ford. 1172 01:06:32,850 --> 01:06:33,540 Yes. 1173 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,100 Oh, god. Yeah, and that's gonna now you're gonna know what it's 1174 01:06:38,100 --> 01:06:40,230 like to be able to try getting pregnant, then you'll know what 1175 01:06:40,230 --> 01:06:43,920 it's like to be a woman. I'm not going there. Yeah, and well, you 1176 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,740 should I'm not going to nobody's give me crap. 1177 01:06:47,130 --> 01:06:50,670 Hey, let me just ask you one question. Because you know, we 1178 01:06:50,670 --> 01:06:53,670 have all these you actually brought this up. Like one day 1179 01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:57,570 Trump is a nincompoop. He's dumb. The next day is genius. 1180 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:03,150 What he's doing very hot. So here's one. Hillary Clinton 1181 01:07:03,150 --> 01:07:08,580 lost. Because the Russians hacked our election. Hillary 1182 01:07:08,580 --> 01:07:14,280 Clinton won by almost 3 million votes. Please pick one. Either 1183 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,390 one. Just pick one. 1184 01:07:17,550 --> 01:07:20,850 Yeah, well, you know what they managed to. They understood our 1185 01:07:20,850 --> 01:07:23,850 system so well that they managed to hack the electoral college or 1186 01:07:23,850 --> 01:07:26,280 she hasn't even voted yet. I have an electoral but 1187 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,120 you know what I say to that? Fact, checkmate is what I say. 1188 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,810 Oh, that's Oh, so you've been you. So you actually worked on 1189 01:07:33,810 --> 01:07:37,980 that gag? Oh, yeah. I stepped on it. Yeah, you did. I stepped 1190 01:07:38,430 --> 01:07:41,340 back. Checkmate was my that was you can 1191 01:07:41,970 --> 01:07:45,720 do today if you could have done a connective in your discussion, 1192 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,460 so I couldn't have interrupted so easily. 1193 01:07:47,490 --> 01:07:50,670 Oh, that's so hard. I just mute you. That's the way to do it. 1194 01:07:51,450 --> 01:07:56,400 Ah, yeah, that would work. All right, let's hear I gotta play 1195 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,710 this one. This is off topic a little bit. But this is an 1196 01:07:58,710 --> 01:08:02,250 electoral college guy in in California. I want you to listen 1197 01:08:02,250 --> 01:08:05,730 to this carefully. And try to understand what this is 1198 01:08:05,730 --> 01:08:10,500 actually, what is this about? It is the craziest story that I 1199 01:08:10,530 --> 01:08:14,370 think I've got for this show. This is the weird, Ill bought 1200 01:08:14,370 --> 01:08:17,130 thinking Electoral College member in California, who is 1201 01:08:17,130 --> 01:08:22,200 trying to get out of his out of his pledge to vote for Hillary. 1202 01:08:22,230 --> 01:08:27,180 Okay. And this and who is this John? I'm sorry. 1203 01:08:27,570 --> 01:08:30,810 This is weird. He'll bought thinking Electoral College 1204 01:08:30,810 --> 01:08:31,860 member of California 1205 01:08:31,950 --> 01:08:34,950 constitutional showdown in federal court in San Jose. 1206 01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:38,640 Today, many electoral college voter for Monterey County asked 1207 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,460 the judge to allow him to vote his conscience for President. 1208 01:08:41,850 --> 01:08:44,670 NBC Bay Area's Damien Trujillo spoke exclusively with that 1209 01:08:44,670 --> 01:08:47,850 elector today, and joins us live in San Jose to tell us why this 1210 01:08:47,850 --> 01:08:49,710 man, this guy could make History Day. 1211 01:08:51,480 --> 01:08:55,140 Yeah, Terry, that electoral college vote is on Monday. Vince 1212 01:08:55,140 --> 01:08:58,620 Kohler is a Democrat. And if he does not vote for Hillary 1213 01:08:58,620 --> 01:09:01,800 Clinton, then he faces felony charges in California and up to 1214 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,070 three years in prison. So he came here to federal court, 1215 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,610 hoping to get an injunction to keep him from being arrested. 1216 01:09:09,570 --> 01:09:13,170 Vince Koehler is an electoral voter. Today he stood outside 1217 01:09:13,170 --> 01:09:16,770 the San Jose Federal Courthouse with his lawyer after testifying 1218 01:09:16,770 --> 01:09:19,560 that he should be allowed to vote his conscience and the 1219 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,120 electoral college process. 1220 01:09:21,150 --> 01:09:24,930 So if I am not allowed to vote for someone other than Hillary, 1221 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:30,750 Hillary Clinton, in effect, I'm enabling a election of Donald 1222 01:09:30,750 --> 01:09:33,120 Trump president and in good conscience. I 1223 01:09:33,119 --> 01:09:34,049 cannot do that. 1224 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,650 The Democrat instead wants to cross party lines on Monday and 1225 01:09:37,650 --> 01:09:41,310 vote for a Republican like John Kasich, since he knows Clinton 1226 01:09:41,310 --> 01:09:46,500 can't win. prevents that. So he came to court. Oh, no. 1227 01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:48,240 This can't hold on 1228 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:53,640 a second. This won't stand. What kind of insanity are we talking 1229 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,330 about here? Yeah, each piece pledged to vote for Hillary's in 1230 01:09:57,330 --> 01:10:00,000 California, California went big for Hillary is where your three 1231 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,600 million votes comes from. Yeah. And he doesn't want on a vote 1232 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:10,980 for Hillary. Because then he's enabling Trump. Yeah, I'm 1233 01:10:11,010 --> 01:10:16,410 telling you this is not This is absolute California bubble 1234 01:10:16,410 --> 01:10:21,870 insanity at its worst, it makes no sense. And it's stupid and 1235 01:10:21,870 --> 01:10:24,570 why is he even doing this? He's got a hired a lawyer and he's 1236 01:10:24,570 --> 01:10:27,390 gonna do all this stuff so he can vote for John Kasich, 1237 01:10:27,870 --> 01:10:30,900 because otherwise he's enabling Trump. Well, in other words, he 1238 01:10:30,900 --> 01:10:33,840 does what he's supposed to do. He's voting for Trump. Well, 1239 01:10:33,870 --> 01:10:36,990 then, you know, the idea is they need to get it doesn't matter 1240 01:10:37,620 --> 01:10:42,480 where they get them from they need to get 37 electors to vote 1241 01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:44,490 for someone else to one person 1242 01:10:44,490 --> 01:10:51,750 seven Trump electors. And yeah, he's actually making it so they 1243 01:10:51,750 --> 01:10:57,870 need 38 Well, that's nuts. That's what I'm trying to 1244 01:10:57,870 --> 01:10:58,530 express. 1245 01:10:58,559 --> 01:11:02,969 I got you that's totally nuts. Well, then, let me bring you 1246 01:11:02,969 --> 01:11:05,849 something from the great state of Texas, where we have a 1247 01:11:05,849 --> 01:11:11,729 turncoat we have our turncoat elector who there I'm gonna I'm 1248 01:11:11,729 --> 01:11:13,919 not gonna vote for Trump. I can't do that in good 1249 01:11:13,919 --> 01:11:21,359 conscience. This guy, he's a fraud. And it was Tucker Carlson 1250 01:11:21,359 --> 01:11:22,739 who gave us the clip. 1251 01:11:22,860 --> 01:11:26,130 Well, here's something new and anti Trump Republican elector is 1252 01:11:26,130 --> 01:11:30,000 facing allegations that he lied in a big way about being a first 1253 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:34,470 responder on 911. According to a report from W F. A television 1254 01:11:34,470 --> 01:11:37,590 Texas electric Christopher Suprun claimed to be one of the 1255 01:11:37,590 --> 01:11:40,950 first firemen on the scene at the burning Pentagon on the day 1256 01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:43,920 of the attacks. But investigation discovered Suprun 1257 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,400 wasn't hired as a fireman until October of 2001. A month later, 1258 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,670 and in the case, his fire department didn't even respond 1259 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,640 to the Pentagon attacks. Well, super appeared on this program 1260 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,560 last week to talk about his refusal to vote for Trump if he 1261 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:59,070 missed it. Here's part of it. You describe yourself and I 1262 01:11:59,070 --> 01:12:01,920 think I'm quoting as a moral elector, but you're suggesting 1263 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,500 that people who are voting for Trump in the electoral college 1264 01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:05,580 tuition are immoral? 1265 01:12:05,850 --> 01:12:09,120 No, I'm saying I'm taking a conscious decision to consider 1266 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,550 who I'm voting for. I don't think Donald Trump meets the 1267 01:12:11,550 --> 01:12:13,680 test to be qualified to be president. 1268 01:12:15,870 --> 01:12:18,900 Well, despite intense and growing criticism, supranet is 1269 01:12:18,900 --> 01:12:21,660 standing by his story as improbable as the story now 1270 01:12:21,660 --> 01:12:25,230 sounds he claims he was a member of another fire department in 1271 01:12:25,260 --> 01:12:28,110 Virginia. And of course, we'll bring you updates on this 1272 01:12:28,110 --> 01:12:28,950 fascinating story. 1273 01:12:31,380 --> 01:12:36,750 Oops. wrong guy. They pick the wrong guy. They got duped. 1274 01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:40,890 Well, Republicans who are ones who got duped, somebody got 1275 01:12:40,890 --> 01:12:44,850 duped. Well, he's on the Republican slate. Yeah. Tucker, 1276 01:12:44,850 --> 01:12:45,480 Carlson's 1277 01:12:45,480 --> 01:12:50,370 dad started Voice of America. I think I knew that. I think he 1278 01:12:50,370 --> 01:12:51,660 may have even been I've been 1279 01:12:51,660 --> 01:12:54,000 on the broadcast Board of Governors, which by the way, is 1280 01:12:54,000 --> 01:13:00,330 changing. Just talking about fake news and propaganda. No 1281 01:13:00,330 --> 01:13:04,950 longer will the entire board be appointed, but the President 1282 01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:09,000 will appoint the CEO of the broadcast Board of Governors. 1283 01:13:09,150 --> 01:13:12,420 And that will be the only guy who has to be approved. And he 1284 01:13:12,420 --> 01:13:18,360 will be the guy, one person who takes direct the orders I guess 1285 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,330 from the President, though, it's just going to get easier, I 1286 01:13:21,330 --> 01:13:26,160 would say, depending on none of this is good. No, it's not. And 1287 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:30,870 then just a couple other things, almost as predicted, The 1288 01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:34,980 Washington Post now promoting a plugin for your browser. And she 1289 01:13:34,980 --> 01:13:37,440 I saw this, I knew it was going to happen. I told you Did you 1290 01:13:37,470 --> 01:13:41,100 just see my retort on Twitter? No, I didn't. What do you say? 1291 01:13:41,220 --> 01:13:45,000 I'd rather have a plugin in my browser that that fact checks 1292 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:46,140 the Washington Post. 1293 01:13:47,099 --> 01:13:52,529 And I'm sure they responded immediately by blocking you. I 1294 01:13:52,619 --> 01:13:56,099 mute switch doesn't work anymore. It's a little crackly. 1295 01:13:56,669 --> 01:13:59,159 Yeah. So you could see it's very crackly. Yeah. So you can pick 1296 01:13:59,159 --> 01:14:04,229 up a an extension for Donald Trump's tweets and it will 1297 01:14:04,229 --> 01:14:09,479 change everything he says ancient truth. And then there's 1298 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,689 also a new website Snopes for snopes.com glad that someone 1299 01:14:12,689 --> 01:14:15,209 started that thing. It's Snopes. Oh, that's 1300 01:14:15,210 --> 01:14:16,050 a great idea. 1301 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,790 Yeah. Snopes for Snopes dot let's start 1302 01:14:17,790 --> 01:14:19,860 with that. Al Gore. And wait a minute. 1303 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:24,420 Wait a minute. If you go to Snopes for snopes.com Let's see 1304 01:14:24,420 --> 01:14:30,150 what we get. I think you might want to try this. Let me see. 1305 01:14:31,410 --> 01:14:37,350 Yeah, go to Snopes for snopes.com Snopes for snopes.com 1306 01:14:41,010 --> 01:14:41,460 Got it? 1307 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:47,610 No, I haven't even got my browser up. Oh man. I was ready. 1308 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:48,180 Okay, now I'm 1309 01:14:48,180 --> 01:14:49,500 going to do it. Snopes for Snopes. 1310 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,260 I know what it is. Is Snopes. 1311 01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:54,240 Nope. Nope. So snopes.com 1312 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:57,750 server not found now. 1313 01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:02,580 f o r. Snopes for Are Snopes 20 got now you're not doing it? 1314 01:15:03,659 --> 01:15:05,009 Oh, I have no first 1315 01:15:05,789 --> 01:15:09,509 Snopes for Snopes you can get the first so the chat room 1316 01:15:09,509 --> 01:15:10,259 already is there. 1317 01:15:11,639 --> 01:15:15,509 Good for them? Yeah. Well, they've obviously brought to say 1318 01:15:15,509 --> 01:15:16,889 down because now it's not coming up. 1319 01:15:18,090 --> 01:15:20,760 Doesn't seem possible. Well, it couldn't 1320 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,040 be if it's on a 1200 baud modem I've seen worse. 1321 01:15:24,990 --> 01:15:27,390 Alright, well, that's too bad. I can't it won't happen again. 1322 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,300 Well, it redirects to no agenda show dog. Oh, wait, wait, wait. 1323 01:15:30,300 --> 01:15:30,390 I 1324 01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,900 went to this segment. Yeah. Yeah. Real happy guy says no 1325 01:15:36,900 --> 01:15:37,380 agenda. 1326 01:15:37,410 --> 01:15:39,810 Yeah, exactly. It redirects to our show. 1327 01:15:42,150 --> 01:15:43,260 Oh, that's hilarious. 1328 01:15:43,530 --> 01:15:46,260 Oh, well, it would have been better if, if you had a browser 1329 01:15:46,260 --> 01:15:46,590 open. 1330 01:15:49,650 --> 01:15:54,930 No, I have a series of more NBC. Evidence. Wanted to ask you a 1331 01:15:54,930 --> 01:15:58,200 question. I'm actually stunned by that guy saying that NBC is 1332 01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,150 like, apologist for Trump. 1333 01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:04,830 Well, no. Promo No, I'll ask you later Pro. Go ahead. We're a 1334 01:16:04,830 --> 01:16:06,870 little behind. I want to get to our first segment. Do you want 1335 01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:08,010 to just say something 1336 01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,460 allows just tease it tease it because our segment is not going 1337 01:16:11,460 --> 01:16:15,210 to be very long. Okay, tease it. Okay, good assistant and 1338 01:16:15,210 --> 01:16:18,180 McFadden doing just what I consider to be just a horrible 1339 01:16:18,180 --> 01:16:22,140 report. But it's slamming Trump and his and his people being 1340 01:16:22,140 --> 01:16:22,590 President 1341 01:16:22,590 --> 01:16:26,520 Obama today defended his level of response to Russian hacking 1342 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,980 aimed at influencing the election. Well, for the first 1343 01:16:28,980 --> 01:16:31,980 time appearing to directly point a finger of blame at Vladimir 1344 01:16:31,980 --> 01:16:35,550 Putin. The White House blew the whistle on the hack in October 1345 01:16:35,550 --> 01:16:38,970 without great detail today acknowledging some of what we 1346 01:16:38,970 --> 01:16:41,790 reported exclusively this week. The President said that at the 1347 01:16:41,790 --> 01:16:44,640 time, he wanted to play the information straight in the 1348 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,000 midst of a hyper partisan election. But NBC News has 1349 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,630 learned some details of secret operations that forth further 1350 01:16:51,630 --> 01:16:54,660 Russian meddling. Our chief investigative correspondent 1351 01:16:54,660 --> 01:16:56,460 Cynthia McFadden has more tonight. 1352 01:16:57,450 --> 01:17:00,900 NBC News broke the news this week that Russian President 1353 01:17:00,900 --> 01:17:05,340 Vladimir Putin directed Russia's meddling into the US election. 1354 01:17:05,700 --> 01:17:08,790 And this afternoon, President Obama all but confirmed 1355 01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:11,250 it not much happens in Russia without Vladimir Putin. 1356 01:17:11,610 --> 01:17:14,640 What he declined to say was whether Hillary Clinton lost 1357 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:15,990 because of the Russian meddling, 1358 01:17:16,169 --> 01:17:20,819 I'm gonna let all the political pundits in this town have a long 1359 01:17:20,819 --> 01:17:24,119 discussion about what happened in the election. 1360 01:17:24,420 --> 01:17:28,320 Officials tell NBC News that the nation's intelligence agencies 1361 01:17:28,350 --> 01:17:33,390 all agree Donald Trump elected became one of Russia's motives, 1362 01:17:33,660 --> 01:17:36,690 along with undermining confidence in the US election. 1363 01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,170 While President Obama tried to reassure the country today, his 1364 01:17:40,170 --> 01:17:43,500 administration took appropriate steps to warn Russia 1365 01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:45,870 although I think we handled it the way it should have been 1366 01:17:45,870 --> 01:17:46,230 handled. 1367 01:17:46,470 --> 01:17:50,040 He is still declined to give specifics about what the US did 1368 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,310 to protect the nation around the election. But tonight on NBC 1369 01:17:53,310 --> 01:17:57,090 News can report that at least a half dozen clandestine actions 1370 01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:01,290 were taken by the US to ensure the integrity of the voting 1371 01:18:01,290 --> 01:18:05,010 process itself. According to a senior intelligence official 1372 01:18:05,010 --> 01:18:08,310 with direct knowledge of these operations, for the first time 1373 01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:12,180 in American history, hundreds of military and intelligence cyber 1374 01:18:12,180 --> 01:18:16,140 experts who work out of top secret facilities, including 1375 01:18:16,170 --> 01:18:20,340 underground bunkers, monitored real time intelligence and cyber 1376 01:18:20,340 --> 01:18:23,910 traffic regarding the election. I like the theater of the mind, 1377 01:18:23,940 --> 01:18:25,980 including underground bunkers. 1378 01:18:26,010 --> 01:18:30,930 That's the real reason for that part of the clip. What are you 1379 01:18:30,930 --> 01:18:36,450 talking about? Why do they have underground bunkers to do some 1380 01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:37,740 IP tracking? 1381 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,400 It sounds it sounds cooler. 1382 01:18:41,430 --> 01:18:44,820 Oh, they're in underground bunkers. These guys. Right 1383 01:18:44,820 --> 01:18:47,610 from why? Well, I have a crackpot command center. Let's 1384 01:18:47,610 --> 01:18:48,330 be honest. 1385 01:18:48,780 --> 01:18:50,550 But it's not an underground bunker. 1386 01:18:50,580 --> 01:18:51,780 Not that, you know, 1387 01:18:52,290 --> 01:18:57,750 I know. My people. And I have I've have it on good authority 1388 01:18:57,750 --> 01:19:01,530 from secret documents. So you're got no underground bunker? 1389 01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:05,430 No. You mean from the officials inside the State Department who 1390 01:19:05,430 --> 01:19:07,620 wish to remain anonymous because they were not authorized to 1391 01:19:07,620 --> 01:19:09,450 speak about the intelligence. 1392 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:14,850 Right? Although they have to take a lie detector test. It's 1393 01:19:14,850 --> 01:19:17,910 unbelievable. This is unbelievable how bad this 1394 01:19:17,940 --> 01:19:20,310 that's my favorite. That's my favorite part. It's like well, 1395 01:19:20,310 --> 01:19:21,960 you know, they have to take a lie detector test but they're 1396 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,720 good at lying. But they don't lie to us. No, no, don't lie to 1397 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:28,110 us. Come on. Come on. Come on. They don't lie to us. All right. 1398 01:19:28,110 --> 01:19:30,300 You have a you have a part two and three of this, I believe. 1399 01:19:30,990 --> 01:19:36,240 Yeah, I think let's play part two. I kept it as a three parter 1400 01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:36,900 for a reason. 1401 01:19:37,590 --> 01:19:40,500 It was all hands on deck to a wreck. thought would be an 1402 01:19:40,500 --> 01:19:42,180 impenetrable defense all 1403 01:19:43,170 --> 01:19:46,620 hands on deck all hands on deck all hands into the bunker. 1404 01:19:48,300 --> 01:19:49,440 designed to detect 1405 01:19:49,980 --> 01:19:53,700 firewall fight I dyed dye. 1406 01:19:56,550 --> 01:20:00,990 Cyber firewall designed to detect and block any Russian 1407 01:20:00,990 --> 01:20:04,620 cyber warriors from interfering in the American infrastructure 1408 01:20:04,650 --> 01:20:07,980 brought to you by Intel, from the US power grid to the 1409 01:20:07,980 --> 01:20:09,720 nation's communication system. 1410 01:20:10,740 --> 01:20:12,270 advertise this more. Yeah, it 1411 01:20:12,270 --> 01:20:14,010 sounds great. We're all gonna die. 1412 01:20:14,940 --> 01:20:19,230 US power grid to the nation's communication system. Every 1413 01:20:19,230 --> 01:20:21,660 one of the nation's communication systems what is 1414 01:20:21,660 --> 01:20:23,670 our nation's communication systems, 1415 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,770 Time Warner Cable spectrum 1416 01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:30,300 system, every vulnerable path was monitored. The senior 1417 01:20:30,300 --> 01:20:33,900 intelligence official told NBC News imagine protecting the 1418 01:20:33,900 --> 01:20:37,500 Rockefeller Center Christmas tree from the bottom from below 1419 01:20:37,500 --> 01:20:40,800 from the sides. Now imagine you have to protect every one of the 1420 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,460 50,000 bulbs on the tree from electromagnetic interference. 1421 01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,810 You can do it, but it takes extraordinary resources. But 1422 01:20:48,810 --> 01:20:52,380 last night at a private party with her top supporters, Hillary 1423 01:20:52,380 --> 01:20:56,490 Clinton suggested Vladimir Putin has a vendetta against her did 1424 01:20:56,490 --> 01:20:57,990 help shape the outcome. 1425 01:20:58,050 --> 01:21:03,390 This is not just an attack against me and my campaign that 1426 01:21:03,390 --> 01:21:07,500 may have added fuel to it. This is an attack against 1427 01:21:07,530 --> 01:21:10,860 our country. something the President acknowledged today as 1428 01:21:10,860 --> 01:21:12,060 well. Our goal 1429 01:21:12,510 --> 01:21:18,480 continues to be to send a clear message to Russia for others not 1430 01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:21,060 to do this to us. Because we can do stuff to you 1431 01:21:21,090 --> 01:21:23,850 cut it out, cut it out dudes 1432 01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:29,010 talking about almost like projecting every light bulb and 1433 01:21:30,450 --> 01:21:33,630 all you have to do is protect the one cord and the extension 1434 01:21:33,630 --> 01:21:36,900 cord. Yeah. 1435 01:21:38,580 --> 01:21:40,500 Unbelievable. Yes. before 1436 01:21:40,500 --> 01:21:42,690 you're ready, you're really really surprised. 1437 01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:47,700 The I'm after totally surprised. I'm always surprised, otherwise 1438 01:21:47,700 --> 01:21:51,210 I wouldn't be doing this show. Okay. I am flabbergasted by some 1439 01:21:51,210 --> 01:21:53,820 of this stuff. It goes on like this. And it's just crazy. 1440 01:21:53,850 --> 01:21:54,960 Do the last clip, then. 1441 01:21:55,710 --> 01:21:59,280 A senior intelligence official tells us the massive us effort 1442 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:03,120 should itself signal to the public. How seriously the Obama 1443 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:03,900 administration imminent 1444 01:22:03,900 --> 01:22:07,530 what massive? They're telling us nothing. How can it be a signal 1445 01:22:07,530 --> 01:22:09,420 to us if you say well, we're not going to tell you what we're 1446 01:22:09,420 --> 01:22:13,860 doing. But it's massive. That is just don't understand what she's 1447 01:22:13,860 --> 01:22:14,250 saying. 1448 01:22:14,460 --> 01:22:18,450 A senior intelligence official tells us the massive us should 1449 01:22:18,450 --> 01:22:21,900 itself signal to the public how seriously the Obama 1450 01:22:21,900 --> 01:22:26,160 administration took the threat, the feeling inside we heard. 1451 01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:30,360 In other words, they didn't take it seriously at all. And now 1452 01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:34,110 since all since the Hillary didn't win as expected, now 1453 01:22:34,110 --> 01:22:36,840 they're just making and making stories up just to finish off 1454 01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:37,770 the year. That's right. 1455 01:22:37,770 --> 01:22:41,760 Go to the public how seriously the Obama administration took 1456 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,730 the threat. The feeling inside the White House, as we heard 1457 01:22:44,730 --> 01:22:48,120 from the President today was that to reveal the details of 1458 01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,750 what was going on would further alarm the public and undermine 1459 01:22:51,750 --> 01:22:54,270 American confidence in the electoral process. 1460 01:22:54,900 --> 01:22:57,810 Alright, Cynthia, thank you and the Russians meantime are trying 1461 01:22:57,810 --> 01:23:00,270 to hit back at the American claims today. We want to get 1462 01:23:00,270 --> 01:23:03,390 reaction from there from our chief foreign correspondent 1463 01:23:03,390 --> 01:23:04,860 Richard angle in Moscow. 1464 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,770 Developments in a cold angle words. 1465 01:23:08,910 --> 01:23:12,930 In Russia, the message to Washington today was put up show 1466 01:23:12,930 --> 01:23:15,840 proof of Moscow's election hacking more Shut up. 1467 01:23:15,930 --> 01:23:17,490 Yeah, bam. 1468 01:23:18,900 --> 01:23:23,670 Yeah, yeah. How to first Shut up. And then they don't want to 1469 01:23:23,670 --> 01:23:25,830 give us any details because they don't want to alarm the public. 1470 01:23:25,830 --> 01:23:28,260 They don't want to Yeah, they're gonna alarm the public that we 1471 01:23:28,260 --> 01:23:31,200 didn't do crap about anything if we even suspected something. 1472 01:23:32,460 --> 01:23:33,090 Wow. 1473 01:23:34,650 --> 01:23:37,290 Yeah, it's pretty bad. Well, you know, luckily, we're here. 1474 01:23:38,730 --> 01:23:40,650 We're saving the day. Yes. Right. 1475 01:23:40,650 --> 01:23:43,560 And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in 1476 01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,430 the morning to you, John C. Where the C stands for checking 1477 01:23:47,430 --> 01:23:50,130 the facts so you don't have to divorce 1478 01:23:50,460 --> 01:23:53,130 Jack Welch in the morning you have Mr. Adam curry also in the 1479 01:23:53,130 --> 01:23:55,260 morning the chips and see boots on the ground feet in the air 1480 01:23:55,380 --> 01:23:58,380 subs in the water and all the games and nights out there. Yes. 1481 01:23:58,380 --> 01:24:00,420 Especially the subs in the water. I got something to say 1482 01:24:00,420 --> 01:24:03,210 about them later on in the program and in the morning to 1483 01:24:03,210 --> 01:24:05,640 the chat room. No agenda stream.com. Hello, everybody. 1484 01:24:05,700 --> 01:24:09,030 Good to see you here. Good numbers today. Again, good 1485 01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:13,290 numbers in the morning to Silent Tapper. 72 silent after 72 bars, 1486 01:24:13,290 --> 01:24:17,460 the artwork for episode 886 The exodus of misery. And this was 1487 01:24:17,460 --> 01:24:20,550 good. We would have used this as a title possibly. But it was the 1488 01:24:20,910 --> 01:24:25,530 recycled children gag which was something came up on the 1489 01:24:25,530 --> 01:24:28,320 previous program. And it was good and we liked that was a 1490 01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:33,060 nice nice piece of work. And yeah, please go to nogen art 1491 01:24:33,060 --> 01:24:35,550 generator.com Check out all the submissions. You can use it for 1492 01:24:35,550 --> 01:24:38,670 all kinds of cool stuff to promote the show. You can also 1493 01:24:38,700 --> 01:24:42,360 submit there obviously we pick the art right after the right 1494 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,790 after the show is over. 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And he says 1505 01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:32,370 333 33 from Phoenix I have been an avid listener since episode 1506 01:25:32,370 --> 01:25:38,430 48 and have since cancelled my cable. This best podcast in the 1507 01:25:38,430 --> 01:25:44,310 universe has saved or created my sanity that's what we did we 1508 01:25:44,310 --> 01:25:44,670 save 1509 01:25:45,540 --> 01:25:46,500 that's how we roll. 1510 01:25:47,009 --> 01:25:50,189 I would like to ask you for a D douching for letting my Pay Pal 1511 01:25:50,189 --> 01:25:51,749 account go dark and 1512 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,880 then d do can't stop the deducing once it's out 1513 01:25:57,420 --> 01:26:00,900 and due to my relocation from lost wages back to Phoenix after 1514 01:26:00,900 --> 01:26:04,980 12 years I will also need jobs Garma Nancy Pelosi jobs and an 1515 01:26:04,980 --> 01:26:06,750 LG Why thank you for your courage 1516 01:26:06,780 --> 01:26:09,330 Thank you very much sir pool man two jobs, 1517 01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:19,380 jobs jobs and jobs let's go karma There you go, man. Thank 1518 01:26:19,380 --> 01:26:19,590 you. 1519 01:26:21,690 --> 01:26:24,570 You know, I would say have a clip. I'm going to play it let's 1520 01:26:24,570 --> 01:26:29,580 play it now as we get killed with me. I've This is Trump's I 1521 01:26:29,580 --> 01:26:32,490 think this is Mobile Alabama speech that he just gave like 1522 01:26:32,490 --> 01:26:34,890 yesterday, the day before his hours the Pennsylvania but he 1523 01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,800 didn't know his mobile for sure. Oh, I know exactly what this is. 1524 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,280 Okay, this is just a small clip. This is the Trump's jobs jobs 1525 01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,430 jobs clip and I want to play it and then I have a commentary. 1526 01:26:44,940 --> 01:26:49,590 We are going to stand up for the American worker like nobody has 1527 01:26:49,590 --> 01:26:59,460 ever stood up for that worker. Our economic agenda can be 1528 01:26:59,460 --> 01:27:05,550 summed up in three very beautiful words. Jobs, jobs, 1529 01:27:05,670 --> 01:27:06,840 jobs. 1530 01:27:09,420 --> 01:27:11,490 I actually I said that jobs, 1531 01:27:11,940 --> 01:27:15,360 jobs, jobs. I like 1532 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:16,170 that. Yeah. 1533 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:21,930 Now. Now, I was thinking about this because Nancy Pelosi thing 1534 01:27:21,930 --> 01:27:25,650 is jobs. Jobs, jobs. Let's end job now. 1535 01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:27,420 Let's vote for jobs. 1536 01:27:28,650 --> 01:27:30,510 No, then then she says Let's vote for job. 1537 01:27:31,170 --> 01:27:38,460 I think it's jobs jobs. She says for jobs. Yes. Jobs, jobs, jobs 1538 01:27:38,490 --> 01:27:41,400 and jobs. Yes. For jobs, you're right. 1539 01:27:42,660 --> 01:27:45,990 Now, I just want to mention a little writer's trick is a 1540 01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:49,920 rhetoric trick. If you want, there's three ways of up if you 1541 01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:53,700 want to do this gag you can do let's get jobs and jobs, which 1542 01:27:53,700 --> 01:27:59,070 is two jobs, jobs and jobs is three, and jobs, jobs, jobs, 1543 01:27:59,130 --> 01:28:03,420 jobs is four. And you will use them in writing or to make 1544 01:28:03,420 --> 01:28:05,910 points or to you know, get somebody to think one way or the 1545 01:28:05,910 --> 01:28:09,030 other, you always use these repetitive things. And the rule 1546 01:28:09,030 --> 01:28:12,510 is when you do it twice, that means you're you're just you're 1547 01:28:12,510 --> 01:28:15,630 demanding and you don't want to go on about it. You just get 1548 01:28:15,630 --> 01:28:18,510 this is a very, it's very important. I'm getting to the 1549 01:28:18,510 --> 01:28:21,510 point that you're making a point and you're you're wrapping it 1550 01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:25,530 up. If you do it three times. That means you're supposed to 1551 01:28:25,530 --> 01:28:28,680 you're kind of the guy in the middle again, like Trump was at 1552 01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,110 the table in the judge's position in the middle where 1553 01:28:31,110 --> 01:28:34,020 you're you're then it's also the Trinity you got one to the 1554 01:28:34,050 --> 01:28:37,200 Father, Son Holy Ghost to us three, and that's supposed to be 1555 01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:41,670 the most that's that's like, Oh, it's a fact. And then if you use 1556 01:28:41,670 --> 01:28:45,630 for like Nancy Pelosi does, that means you're off the rails, 1557 01:28:46,260 --> 01:28:50,640 you're off the rails, and you're emotionally so involved in this 1558 01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,730 that you have to go four or even five. 1559 01:28:54,990 --> 01:28:57,570 And this is a writer's trick. It's kind of 1560 01:28:57,570 --> 01:29:00,000 a writer's thing. Yeah. I don't know why I remember learning 1561 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,830 that. I call it I love 1562 01:29:01,830 --> 01:29:05,070 it when you analyze the writers and you know, you know exactly 1563 01:29:05,070 --> 01:29:06,630 how this works. I love that. It's great. 1564 01:29:07,170 --> 01:29:10,770 It's good stuff. Anyway, giovine here so Pelosi has actually got 1565 01:29:10,770 --> 01:29:13,800 the most powerful of the group I think because she sounds crazy. 1566 01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,950 It's crazy. Well, then we have Trump is reasonable. That's 1567 01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:19,380 what's odd about it like the people that always give him 1568 01:29:19,380 --> 01:29:19,980 crap, but 1569 01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,370 we also have the Nancy and Trump together 1570 01:29:23,429 --> 01:29:29,999 jobs jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for 1571 01:29:29,999 --> 01:29:30,629 jobs 1572 01:29:30,660 --> 01:29:38,220 but yeah, we're I'm hesitant I we need to we need to just use 1573 01:29:38,220 --> 01:29:41,010 the Pelosi because that's the one that works I don't want to 1574 01:29:41,130 --> 01:29:44,700 use a different jobs karma because it works. Yeah, we can't 1575 01:29:44,700 --> 01:29:45,240 change that. 1576 01:29:45,270 --> 01:29:49,950 Pelosi is what what it is. Yeah. All right. Onward. Yes, Sir Don 1577 01:29:49,950 --> 01:29:57,090 and wind him New Hampshire. 2222 primay Hi, guys, Don here. I 1578 01:29:57,090 --> 01:30:00,840 need your help. My good buddy. Joe has it terrible accident 1579 01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,780 while traveling on vacation and broke his leg prognosis is 1580 01:30:03,780 --> 01:30:06,210 paralyzed from the neck down. Yes. 1581 01:30:06,510 --> 01:30:11,010 I need maximum karma. I broke his neck. I need maximum karma 1582 01:30:11,010 --> 01:30:14,130 for him and his wonderful wife, Michelle, who has been mildly 1583 01:30:14,130 --> 01:30:17,520 hit in the mouth. But who'd, but who knows she is coming over if 1584 01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:18,210 she's she? 1585 01:30:19,470 --> 01:30:21,000 Maybe she has other things to do. Yeah, I 1586 01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,310 think she's got other things on our mind. Well, I've been a 1587 01:30:23,310 --> 01:30:26,400 donor since 2012. And Sir Brian destroyer of Cohen's hit me in 1588 01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,580 the mouth. My accounting shows and I'm well beyond Baronet. But 1589 01:30:29,580 --> 01:30:33,210 I hate that title. And I will wait for Baron. Okay. Thanks for 1590 01:30:33,210 --> 01:30:34,590 your help. And a great show. Keep it up. 1591 01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,710 All right, well, your maximum karma here and maximum maximum 1592 01:30:37,710 --> 01:30:47,790 karma. You've got karma. We wish. Wish our night. No, his 1593 01:30:47,790 --> 01:30:49,590 buddy Joe, we wish him good luck. 1594 01:30:50,220 --> 01:30:53,910 And that's all we got for today's show. Eight, seven, we 1595 01:30:53,910 --> 01:30:56,370 got eight coming up. We'll see what happens then maybe we'll 1596 01:30:56,370 --> 01:30:59,220 pick it up. And then we're on our way to Christmas. 1597 01:30:59,460 --> 01:31:03,000 I do want to mention that I received a package yesterday a 1598 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:07,530 big box from UPS. And it said You know, there's all kinds of 1599 01:31:07,530 --> 01:31:12,030 markings on it. It's at this side up live yeast inside, like 1600 01:31:12,030 --> 01:31:16,920 all kinds of stuff on it, you know, this side up this. Okay. 1601 01:31:17,340 --> 01:31:20,430 And then as I'm opening it up, there's another box inside and 1602 01:31:21,150 --> 01:31:25,290 whoever pack this up and cut up one of those pool noodles. You 1603 01:31:25,290 --> 01:31:27,840 know those noodles with a bowl that you float on. 1604 01:31:29,850 --> 01:31:31,890 But yeah, they're big. They're big. 1605 01:31:31,950 --> 01:31:34,950 You cut one up into pieces. And you said like his, you know, 1606 01:31:34,950 --> 01:31:37,590 shock absorbing material. There's another box inside it 1607 01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:41,370 says Be very careful with opening this. And Tina actually 1608 01:31:41,370 --> 01:31:44,550 said, I'm not gonna stand near you while you're doing that. 1609 01:31:46,500 --> 01:31:50,850 Okay, well, it doesn't feel too heavy. So I don't think there's 1610 01:31:50,850 --> 01:31:54,630 no actual bomb inside, cutting it open, you know another box 1611 01:31:54,630 --> 01:32:00,030 inside. And then turns out this was a gag gift. inside another 1612 01:32:00,030 --> 01:32:07,650 box was a small sack of safety pins. Which I guess is the joke 1613 01:32:07,650 --> 01:32:12,540 because that's the safety pin is your Oh, this is your safe sign. 1614 01:32:12,570 --> 01:32:16,680 Yeah, so that was Matthew. today. It was a gag gift. I hope 1615 01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:21,180 you liked it. Thanks. I did he did put in some live yeast he 1616 01:32:21,180 --> 01:32:23,910 put in some IPAs in there so at least I got something to drink 1617 01:32:23,910 --> 01:32:27,540 but people if you ask me for my dress to send something don't do 1618 01:32:27,540 --> 01:32:31,680 that. I'm I'm freaked out enough. I'm gonna send me like I 1619 01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:33,990 just looked like really dangerous package. I'm one of 1620 01:32:33,990 --> 01:32:38,970 those snakes that flies out. Boiling. All right, well, hey, 1621 01:32:38,970 --> 01:32:41,550 thank you to our executive producer and our sole executive 1622 01:32:41,550 --> 01:32:44,130 producer, our sole Associate Executive Producer. We're 1623 01:32:44,130 --> 01:32:47,910 bringing us some help today. Definitely need more help if you 1624 01:32:47,910 --> 01:32:50,100 want to consider doing that to keep the show going. We'll have 1625 01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:55,020 another one on Thursday remember us at avora.org/and 1626 01:32:55,110 --> 01:32:55,500 A 1627 01:32:55,530 --> 01:32:58,380 just like Sir Don that you can do the same go out there hit 1628 01:32:58,380 --> 01:33:00,240 people in the mouth propagate the formula. Our 1629 01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:04,650 formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth 1630 01:33:20,730 --> 01:33:24,360 righty now let's finish off what you wanted to do here. 1631 01:33:25,290 --> 01:33:28,830 Well, that was the NBC ludicrous thing but I do have a couple of 1632 01:33:28,830 --> 01:33:33,720 things. Shields. PBS by the way, I haven't changed the lienor 1633 01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:37,740 report because but I'm going to keep it kind of updated. PVS 1634 01:33:37,740 --> 01:33:40,590 seems to have been I don't know what happened. I think the last 1635 01:33:40,620 --> 01:33:42,810 one said when quit or quit died. 1636 01:33:43,740 --> 01:33:47,610 So I was wondering, do you want to quit so bad she just died. I 1637 01:33:47,610 --> 01:33:47,940 think 1638 01:33:47,940 --> 01:33:51,000 that she had a great influence on the show. I didn't realize 1639 01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:54,960 this until she disappeared and died. Interesting because the 1640 01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:59,730 show has seriously changed. Oh, and I think she was now looking 1641 01:33:59,730 --> 01:34:02,970 at me trying to analyze I think she was a calming influence. Now 1642 01:34:02,970 --> 01:34:03,120 we 1643 01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:04,650 feel bad that we always made 1644 01:34:04,650 --> 01:34:09,540 fun of her older a hagiography Yes. I feel bad anyway. He 1645 01:34:09,540 --> 01:34:14,940 should. But it seems because now it's gone crazy. It's like very 1646 01:34:14,940 --> 01:34:21,030 antiTrump there's a lot of the poetry readings and why have 1647 01:34:21,030 --> 01:34:24,450 these swayed away? Well, I mean, they have this legs my opinion 1648 01:34:24,450 --> 01:34:28,050 pieces which come on and somebody some nude Nick from God 1649 01:34:28,050 --> 01:34:31,560 knows where it goes on about themselves. And I'm gonna apply 1650 01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:34,920 so I can go on about myself. And it's just like there's it's just 1651 01:34:34,950 --> 01:34:40,110 lost that certain element of, of I don't know what it what it 1652 01:34:40,110 --> 01:34:43,500 was, but she I would have to say she was responsible because it's 1653 01:34:43,500 --> 01:34:46,440 not there anymore. That's the only reason I'd say that. But 1654 01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:50,280 now we have shields, who's not with Brooks today. He's with 1655 01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,040 some guy from the National Review, but shields and the 1656 01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,040 decent Democrats, which is what he's supposed to represent in 1657 01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,970 this little debate that they have to record his the way 1658 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,570 Through the show, he's supposed to be the Democrat but these 1659 01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:07,080 today's Democrats are hate Russia, which is very unusual 1660 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,210 because they were always influenced by a Marxist, which 1661 01:35:09,210 --> 01:35:12,450 were, you know, supposedly given their orders from, from the 1662 01:35:12,450 --> 01:35:16,020 Kremlin. Yes. The hates Russia hates us. And they're talking 1663 01:35:16,020 --> 01:35:20,550 patriotism and all this crazy stuff. And they also believe 1664 01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:21,840 that 1665 01:35:22,020 --> 01:35:23,880 wait a minute women, what do you mean, they were talking 1666 01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,580 patriotism and all this crazy stuff? What do you mean? 1667 01:35:27,270 --> 01:35:30,780 Well, I mean, but crazy stuff is for Democrats. Oh, Democrats are 1668 01:35:30,780 --> 01:35:34,320 not patriotic Democrats are. We're not it. We're a Russia 1669 01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,770 haters, right. Democrats were pro labor. But now the crazy 1670 01:35:37,770 --> 01:35:40,920 thing is they I think they're panic because labor doesn't like 1671 01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,200 the Democrats anymore. They're voting Republican. Yeah. And 1672 01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:46,290 that's what causes Hillary the election, I believe. Yeah. And 1673 01:35:46,290 --> 01:35:48,690 so they're completely freaked out. So this listen to some of 1674 01:35:48,690 --> 01:35:52,920 these rants, these rantings. This is shields, and I think the 1675 01:35:52,950 --> 01:35:57,450 first one is it just yeah, this is shields on patriotism, and 1676 01:35:57,450 --> 01:35:58,470 Trump and Russia. 1677 01:35:58,620 --> 01:36:02,760 most alarming to me is Donald Trump will become president of 1678 01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,430 the states, he won the election alarm. This is not about who won 1679 01:36:05,430 --> 01:36:08,520 the election, he will become the 45th. President on the 20th of 1680 01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:13,920 January. It is about whether the sovereignty and self 1681 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:18,510 determination of the United States was compromised by a 1682 01:36:19,290 --> 01:36:22,980 organized at the highest Russian levels, which means the 1683 01:36:22,980 --> 01:36:27,450 imprimatur of Mr. Putin, espionage sabotage of the 1684 01:36:27,450 --> 01:36:31,500 American democratic system. And there's an office in this 1685 01:36:31,500 --> 01:36:33,810 country higher than that a president that's that a patriot? 1686 01:36:34,140 --> 01:36:37,470 And John McCain is filling that right now. John McCain is 1687 01:36:37,470 --> 01:36:42,030 saying, These are questions that must be answered. These are 1688 01:36:42,030 --> 01:36:46,620 questions that demand an answer. And the idea is Mitch McConnell, 1689 01:36:46,650 --> 01:36:49,080 the Republican Senate majority leader says send it to the 1690 01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,810 Intelligence Committee. It's just a way of sending it to 1691 01:36:51,810 --> 01:36:56,730 Limbo because we had we spent $40,000,000.05 years in the 1692 01:36:56,730 --> 01:36:58,920 intelligence committee investigating torture and have a 1693 01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:00,900 grab, we have yet to get a report on it. 1694 01:37:01,650 --> 01:37:02,880 Okay, 1695 01:37:03,030 --> 01:37:05,340 so once you mentioned McCain, of course, especially if you're a 1696 01:37:05,340 --> 01:37:08,490 Democrat. Yeah. As far as I'm concerned, you've lost all 1697 01:37:08,700 --> 01:37:11,670 credibility. But he goes on about patriotism and all the 1698 01:37:11,670 --> 01:37:15,240 rest of it and Trump and and he talks about us losing our 1699 01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:18,990 sovereign, we lost our sovereignty to the WT Oh, yeah, 1700 01:37:19,020 --> 01:37:22,020 we lost our sovereignty to NAFTA. There are different 1701 01:37:22,020 --> 01:37:25,260 provisions in those in those treaties that take our 1702 01:37:25,260 --> 01:37:29,760 sovereignty away, literally. And those are all done by Bill 1703 01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:32,580 Clinton. Clinton, Bill Clinton has already taken our 1704 01:37:32,580 --> 01:37:34,680 sovereignty away, but I don't really think these democrats 1705 01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:38,370 realize that and getting it back is going to be more a problem. I 1706 01:37:38,370 --> 01:37:41,220 disagree. I think they do understand that they don't want 1707 01:37:41,220 --> 01:37:42,240 to admit it. 1708 01:37:42,750 --> 01:37:45,900 Well, they're globalist shields is like the rest of their 1709 01:37:45,900 --> 01:37:48,720 globalist they don't do that. But here's what that always says 1710 01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:52,890 crazy. You're a globalist, you're not supposed to once 1711 01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:57,210 individual sovereignty. That's nationalism. Hey, he made what 1712 01:37:57,210 --> 01:38:00,630 is it? So these guys are, you know, they're completely mind 1713 01:38:00,630 --> 01:38:03,540 screwed. They get, you know, they're thinking the fuzzy 1714 01:38:03,540 --> 01:38:06,060 thinking is coming out. Anyway. That's what I'm talking about 1715 01:38:06,060 --> 01:38:06,390 here. 1716 01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,750 We will not get a 911 commission. But I think John 1717 01:38:09,750 --> 01:38:13,110 McCain and Armed Services Committee with Jack Reed, the 1718 01:38:13,110 --> 01:38:17,490 Democrat with Lindsey Graham and others came pretty damn good 1719 01:38:17,490 --> 01:38:21,060 committee. I think you'll get an honest, you know, we needed the 1720 01:38:21,060 --> 01:38:24,240 idea that people who were so concerned about a $500,000 1721 01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:27,300 contribution to the Clinton Foundation changing and 1722 01:38:27,300 --> 01:38:31,200 influencing American foreign policy somehow indirectly. And 1723 01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:36,480 in curious about Russia's involvement in sabotaging an 1724 01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:40,170 American election. Just is unforgivable to me and 1725 01:38:40,170 --> 01:38:40,710 irrational. 1726 01:38:40,890 --> 01:38:44,130 I love how we throws out that number like it's just 500,000 1727 01:38:44,130 --> 01:38:47,160 has nothing. It's just 500 million always said 500 million. 1728 01:38:47,370 --> 01:38:48,120 I use No, no, he 1729 01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:49,350 said 500,000 He said 1730 01:38:49,950 --> 01:38:56,010 500,000 Like it's nothing about that. It's just peanuts. No one 1731 01:38:56,010 --> 01:38:57,900 is bribable for 500,000. 1732 01:38:59,910 --> 01:39:03,810 Yeah, and then he goes into the Russia sabotaged. He's gonna 1733 01:39:03,810 --> 01:39:07,920 weigh over the the band here for market. They said I'm sorry, 1734 01:39:07,950 --> 01:39:11,070 sabotaged is not with any This is not what happened. But 1735 01:39:11,070 --> 01:39:11,670 anyway, could no 1736 01:39:11,670 --> 01:39:17,100 sub I totally agree. And words matter? No one's watching this 1737 01:39:17,100 --> 01:39:19,200 crap anymore. John, no one's watching. 1738 01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:24,450 We are well, there's people from watching. We're doing it 1739 01:39:25,170 --> 01:39:27,780 for market. I mean, getting to you to what both of you are 1740 01:39:27,780 --> 01:39:33,420 saying this does leave a cloud of a dark cloud hanging over the 1741 01:39:33,420 --> 01:39:36,210 question of our democracy. I mean, if another nation 1742 01:39:36,480 --> 01:39:41,790 unfriendly to put it I guess in the in the best terms, it can 1743 01:39:41,790 --> 01:39:46,230 come in and and leak and get information and have it leaked 1744 01:39:46,260 --> 01:39:49,110 at will. What does that say that our says Well, 1745 01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:57,000 no, it says such attacks and be that we were manipulated and 1746 01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:01,050 could be manipulated by Russia. Let me Russia This is not a one 1747 01:40:01,050 --> 01:40:05,490 off or Russia. I mean, Russia has done it already in Germany 1748 01:40:05,490 --> 01:40:08,250 and Italy and democracies in Western Europe. 1749 01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:13,080 Yeah. Yeah, they the Brexit, everything Germany, Italy. It's 1750 01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:16,380 all Russia. It's all it makes nothing but sense because, of 1751 01:40:16,380 --> 01:40:19,260 course Germany has a direct pipeline from gas to the North 1752 01:40:19,260 --> 01:40:21,990 Stream. Of course, they don't want that from Russia. Of 1753 01:40:21,990 --> 01:40:24,690 course, they don't want the Russians buying their cars, 1754 01:40:24,690 --> 01:40:28,260 which is the Euro round trip. It's very well known. That's how 1755 01:40:28,260 --> 01:40:31,680 the Euros flow. They sell their cars. Russia needs to have euros 1756 01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:34,320 to buy the cars. Now Germany doesn't want that at all. No. 1757 01:40:34,350 --> 01:40:40,230 Nor does Russia know. Just hack away. Stupid morons. And by the 1758 01:40:40,230 --> 01:40:43,050 way, when we do a Trump bid, gotta do the jingle. 1759 01:40:44,670 --> 01:40:47,760 He's Trump. He's Trump. The President didn't. 1760 01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:56,250 And now the tread the tread the President, my mouth today. 1761 01:40:56,730 --> 01:41:02,190 President Trump today. Yesterday, tweeted about the 1762 01:41:02,190 --> 01:41:07,770 Chinese stealing our research drone. I wanted to talk about 1763 01:41:07,770 --> 01:41:10,140 this research drone for a moment if you don't mind. 1764 01:41:10,740 --> 01:41:12,750 Okay, I use this story. I did pass up. 1765 01:41:12,839 --> 01:41:15,749 Yeah. No, there's also no clips. However, yeah, no, you said 1766 01:41:16,860 --> 01:41:18,030 no clip. Oh, I'm 1767 01:41:18,030 --> 01:41:20,580 sorry. I'll make sure I call you out every time you say 1768 01:41:20,610 --> 01:41:23,580 I wish you would. I was thinking about just that the other day, 1769 01:41:23,610 --> 01:41:27,750 because we did. Because I was watching too much television to 1770 01:41:27,750 --> 01:41:31,140 get these clips. And everybody's saying yeah, no, 1771 01:41:31,170 --> 01:41:36,510 no, no. Okay, here we go. This. So the President, the President 1772 01:41:36,540 --> 01:41:40,380 Elect tweeted, hey, this is unprecedent crazy Chinese, 1773 01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:46,770 seizing our research drone, which in other stories has been 1774 01:41:46,770 --> 01:41:51,570 called the equivalent of a weather balloon. But here's the 1775 01:41:51,570 --> 01:41:57,480 great thing. We have a number of subs under the water guys who 1776 01:41:57,750 --> 01:42:01,170 listen to the show. In fact, we have a rather high percentage, I 1777 01:42:01,170 --> 01:42:06,600 would say, of submariners. Good. And you'd think that you'd call 1778 01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:09,900 them. By the way, I just did take an aside here. That has got 1779 01:42:09,900 --> 01:42:13,830 to be I think for any person, you really have to be something 1780 01:42:13,830 --> 01:42:17,850 special to be in those submarines for hours on end. And 1781 01:42:17,850 --> 01:42:19,920 under the water. It's just a cramped? 1782 01:42:20,580 --> 01:42:25,530 Well, let me take it one step further. Specifically, at least 1783 01:42:25,530 --> 01:42:31,800 one of our subs out of the water guys works specifically with 1784 01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:39,210 these research drones. In fact, he told me, the I would say at 1785 01:42:39,210 --> 01:42:44,760 risk to himself. What he did, and what this is about. The 1786 01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:49,710 first he says no doubt about it. If that drone could not have 1787 01:42:49,710 --> 01:42:54,540 been more than about 100 words, he said about five miles, but 1788 01:42:54,540 --> 01:42:58,800 more likely, like 150 feet from the drone, because that drone is 1789 01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:04,500 tethered to the USS Jimmy Carter, which our guy worked on. 1790 01:43:04,890 --> 01:43:08,610 In fact, he was one of the operators of said research drone 1791 01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:16,410 and a diver. And he said this is about one thing. And if you have 1792 01:43:16,410 --> 01:43:21,510 not you should read the book. blind man's bluff. Have you 1793 01:43:21,510 --> 01:43:24,570 heard of this? I'm sure you've heard. I have heard of it. We 1794 01:43:24,570 --> 01:43:28,260 have not read. Okay, blind man's bluff is about the about the 1795 01:43:28,260 --> 01:43:33,300 untold story of American submarine espionage. And here's 1796 01:43:33,300 --> 01:43:36,270 how it works. This, this initially was written about the 1797 01:43:36,270 --> 01:43:43,320 USSS Parsh I think pa AR ch E. And the drones go out there 1798 01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:48,480 tethered. And they do a couple of things. But mainly they cut 1799 01:43:48,480 --> 01:43:52,530 and tap into fiber optic cables so that you can do that 1800 01:43:52,530 --> 01:43:57,090 remotely. And we've been doing this for 40 years. It's uh, 1801 01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:01,380 these these ships, these submarines have about 30 to 40 1802 01:44:01,410 --> 01:44:06,090 spooks on them CIA guys who and there's a continuous data stream 1803 01:44:06,090 --> 01:44:11,820 and some of them from 40 years ago are still working. So I was 1804 01:44:11,820 --> 01:44:14,700 of course fascinated and our guy is talking about this and then 1805 01:44:14,700 --> 01:44:18,030 he opened up a little bit more says yeah, yeah, we used to do 1806 01:44:18,030 --> 01:44:22,140 some interesting stuff. Do you remember the Kursk? Remember 1807 01:44:22,140 --> 01:44:26,640 that submarine disaster? The Russian, the Russian submarine? 1808 01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,940 And they said, Well, looks like a torpedo blew up in the tube. 1809 01:44:29,940 --> 01:44:33,060 And then we waited for days and they tried to go down and get 1810 01:44:33,060 --> 01:44:35,070 the thought maybe some guys would be alive in one 1811 01:44:35,070 --> 01:44:37,230 compartment of the submarine. You do recall 1812 01:44:37,230 --> 01:44:40,470 that I vaguely remember that. Some of this. This was a while 1813 01:44:40,470 --> 01:44:41,700 back. Yes. 1814 01:44:42,540 --> 01:44:46,650 Well, apparently our dude named Ben was also involved in an 1815 01:44:46,650 --> 01:44:51,930 operation. Where do they bend our Submariner and operation 1816 01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:57,510 where they went to go pick up some bits and pieces from that? 1817 01:44:58,380 --> 01:45:02,640 wreck? Covert He, of course, because and I'm just quoting 1818 01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:08,100 here. If anyone had found those bits and pieces it would have it 1819 01:45:08,100 --> 01:45:12,000 would have had raised some very nasty stories, and so on. Now 1820 01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,310 Now I'm very interested. He says, Okay, well, you need to 1821 01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:20,370 look up USS San Francisco, HMS onyx, the submarines who have 1822 01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:24,720 that have had these weird kind of accidents. And the accidents 1823 01:45:24,750 --> 01:45:27,270 are well, of course, the curse was not a we, I mean, that was a 1824 01:45:27,270 --> 01:45:30,600 very deadly accident. I think the USS San Francisco they said 1825 01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:34,770 that it ran into something under the water. You recall the Kursk, 1826 01:45:35,310 --> 01:45:39,030 there was a conspiracy theory that there was an underwater 1827 01:45:39,030 --> 01:45:41,490 collision with another submarine. I think the 1828 01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:45,210 conspiracy theory was a NATO submarine. But here's what's 1829 01:45:45,210 --> 01:45:48,540 happening. And this is a term I had not heard before. If you 1830 01:45:48,540 --> 01:45:52,710 Google the term, it's barely Google trouble. It's called 1831 01:45:52,740 --> 01:45:58,590 under hauling. And what happens is, you take your sub and u s, 1832 01:45:58,590 --> 01:46:02,460 and you get underneath the Russian sub, about eight feet 1833 01:46:02,460 --> 01:46:05,670 below it, you use your parents called under hauling. So you're 1834 01:46:05,670 --> 01:46:09,810 under the haul, you use your Periscope, to take pictures, and 1835 01:46:09,810 --> 01:46:15,150 you send out the divers to attach magnetic charges to the 1836 01:46:15,150 --> 01:46:21,180 Hall of the adversary, in this case, the Russian sub, but the 1837 01:46:21,180 --> 01:46:25,590 Russians do this too. And they are blowing up subs with this 1838 01:46:25,590 --> 01:46:30,870 practice. And he says any guy who's sub under the water, ships 1839 01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:34,380 at sea, some of them water knows the term under hauling. And he 1840 01:46:34,380 --> 01:46:38,670 says we're doing it and this was no research drone. We were 1841 01:46:38,670 --> 01:46:42,390 definitely spying on the Chinese. And today comes out the 1842 01:46:42,390 --> 01:46:46,200 news which I find interesting China agrees to return our 1843 01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:52,260 stolen Navy drone. I'm not quite sure why they're so easy to give 1844 01:46:52,260 --> 01:46:52,830 it back. 1845 01:46:54,060 --> 01:46:57,150 But my question is what the question still remains what they 1846 01:46:57,150 --> 01:47:00,000 give it back in one piece every time that they've captured one 1847 01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,460 of our devices. This has been discussed in one news article. 1848 01:47:02,730 --> 01:47:05,700 They say always return it but it's like been already 1849 01:47:05,700 --> 01:47:08,310 disassembled and they don't bother reassembling it. 1850 01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:11,010 Well, this thing is pretty simple. All it all it's intended 1851 01:47:11,010 --> 01:47:14,520 to do is cut and tap into fiber optics. I'm sure they know about 1852 01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:18,630 it. But I thought it was pretty interesting to learn about blind 1853 01:47:18,630 --> 01:47:23,610 man's bluff about the about the under hauling and and how we 1854 01:47:23,610 --> 01:47:28,350 possibly were responsible for the Kursk Disaster. Possibly. 1855 01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:31,980 It adds to the conspiracy. 1856 01:47:33,420 --> 01:47:37,200 I'm buying it I'm not saying cuz I'm thinking this is very true. 1857 01:47:37,500 --> 01:47:41,190 And of course, then my final question was, please tell me 1858 01:47:42,180 --> 01:47:45,540 that you guys are around Antarctica all the time because 1859 01:47:45,540 --> 01:47:48,180 yeah, that's the number one place. All the subs are in 1860 01:47:48,180 --> 01:47:52,890 Antarctica. It's called Operation Deep Freeze. And I 1861 01:47:52,890 --> 01:47:55,680 guess we're there to protect the Nazi flying saucers. I'm not 1862 01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:59,160 sure. Something's going on there. For sure. 1863 01:47:59,310 --> 01:48:02,880 Yeah. Yeah. Anyone who watches these great channels on cable 1864 01:48:02,910 --> 01:48:05,340 History Channel, there's no history to anymore. It's now the 1865 01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:10,590 H C channel, which I believe means Adolf Hitler channel. And 1866 01:48:10,650 --> 01:48:15,240 they're all they always discussed the bell, and the 1867 01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:20,370 flying saucers and the secret Nazi flying saucer Base In 1868 01:48:20,370 --> 01:48:23,100 Antarctica, because it's so convenient. You don't have to 1869 01:48:23,100 --> 01:48:25,530 pull it in the Andes or someplace that at least you can 1870 01:48:25,530 --> 01:48:29,100 go go down and buy something at the grocery store. You're gonna 1871 01:48:29,100 --> 01:48:33,300 put it in Antarctica. Yeah, that just makes nothing but sense. 1872 01:48:33,330 --> 01:48:33,570 That's 1873 01:48:33,570 --> 01:48:40,710 where you put it. Of course, of course. I still 1874 01:48:40,770 --> 01:48:44,190 want to you as soon as I hear about the cable splicing I'm 1875 01:48:44,190 --> 01:48:48,900 always thinking, which I guess is doable with fiber not as not 1876 01:48:48,930 --> 01:48:52,920 with much difficulty. But I'm always reminded Remember though 1877 01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:56,760 do was during our era or the Showa era that no agenda era. 1878 01:48:57,270 --> 01:49:02,610 They had this cable was sliced in the in the Mediterranean and 1879 01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:05,070 yes, all these countries couldn't get any kind of 1880 01:49:05,070 --> 01:49:07,320 connections if they had to go route around all over the places 1881 01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:10,530 to get an internet connection out. I've always been 1882 01:49:10,530 --> 01:49:14,160 susceptible thing has always been suspect. That event. 1883 01:49:14,190 --> 01:49:17,490 So as we now know, for 40 years, we've been for 40 years 1884 01:49:17,490 --> 01:49:23,520 misplacing cables and cows. Oh, crap, you had something about? 1885 01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:28,560 Was that in your previous clip, the 911 Commission, or was it 1886 01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:32,490 something some strange almost like a non sequitur, we won't 1887 01:49:32,490 --> 01:49:34,050 get a 911 commission? 1888 01:49:35,220 --> 01:49:36,600 Guess what he said? Yeah, 1889 01:49:36,810 --> 01:49:43,290 I caught Feinstein on MSNBC, I think with Andrea Mitchell, and 1890 01:49:43,290 --> 01:49:46,740 she said something really odd, under the heading of the truth 1891 01:49:46,770 --> 01:49:48,960 always wants to come out, see if you can catch it. 1892 01:49:48,990 --> 01:49:53,820 And I can cite cases of interrogation where information 1893 01:49:53,820 --> 01:49:58,650 was gotten, for example, Ali Soufan. In the case of the Blind 1894 01:49:58,650 --> 01:50:03,420 Sheikh This is was a while ago, but he got enough information so 1895 01:50:03,420 --> 01:50:08,010 that the Blind Sheikh that bombed that earlier, nine, not 1896 01:50:08,010 --> 01:50:12,780 the 911 bombing, but the one that took place earlier in 93. 1897 01:50:12,780 --> 01:50:17,310 Right. Yeah, that he pled guilty and a serving a life sentence. 1898 01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:21,330 Did you hear what she said? No. Okay, I'll play it one more 1899 01:50:21,330 --> 01:50:22,710 time. Just listen carefully, not the 1900 01:50:22,710 --> 01:50:25,710 911 bombing, but the one that took place 1901 01:50:26,100 --> 01:50:28,770 earlier in 93. Right. Yeah, that he 1902 01:50:28,950 --> 01:50:32,250 played. You can't hear it quite there. Here it goes again. He 1903 01:50:32,250 --> 01:50:32,550 got 1904 01:50:32,580 --> 01:50:36,870 enough information so that the Blind Sheikh that bombed that 1905 01:50:36,900 --> 01:50:41,160 earlier, nine are not the 911 bombing, but the one that took 1906 01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:44,640 the 911 bombing, since one was 911 a bombing? 1907 01:50:45,330 --> 01:50:58,140 Oh I really doubt that if there was a controlled demolition, 1908 01:50:58,140 --> 01:51:01,140 which you could consider a bombing, that Feinstein would 1909 01:51:01,140 --> 01:51:04,590 have any knowledge of any such thing. I could be wrong though. 1910 01:51:04,590 --> 01:51:07,680 She's in the Senate. I'm just intelligence committee, so you 1911 01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:12,000 never know what she's pointing it out, man. And man, just one 1912 01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:16,020 man just pointed out man, don't don't give me Don't harsh my 1913 01:51:16,020 --> 01:51:16,590 mouth. Oh. 1914 01:51:20,490 --> 01:51:24,090 I gotta I got to. I wish this was done by Democracy Now. But 1915 01:51:24,090 --> 01:51:28,170 just imagine. Just imagine. Yeah, we're in a moment. We're 1916 01:51:28,170 --> 01:51:32,310 in a moment of global cooling. It's everything's cooling. It's 1917 01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:39,120 all and everybody's in 99% of all scientists agree that it's 1918 01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:43,050 cooling that we're, we're going into a new ice age. And we need 1919 01:51:43,050 --> 01:51:46,620 you know, and everybody agrees everybody agrees that 99% Of all 1920 01:51:46,620 --> 01:51:51,420 the scientists agree like they used to in 1977. Yes. So let's 1921 01:51:51,450 --> 01:51:54,870 play this and you at the end you could imagine AMY GOODMAN coming 1922 01:51:54,870 --> 01:51:58,830 on at all I just bought this is more evidence more evidence of 1923 01:51:58,830 --> 01:52:03,480 global cooling. Yes, I found it. 1924 01:52:06,060 --> 01:52:10,500 500 crashes on Minnesota roads. Now that the snow is stopped a 1925 01:52:10,500 --> 01:52:15,060 new dangerous moving in extreme cold in Minnetonka, Minnesota, 1926 01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:18,840 Becky Asli is preparing for temperatures that feel like 40 1927 01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:21,930 degrees below zero. So what precautions do you take 1928 01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:24,570 oh well getting gas I have a quarter tank right now. And so 1929 01:52:24,570 --> 01:52:27,510 we know the closer you are to I have to take a guess the more 1930 01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:29,910 likely it is it's not gonna freeze with the cold 1931 01:52:29,910 --> 01:52:31,020 temperatures that are coming. 1932 01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:34,590 In many parts of the country. Today's high temperatures aren't 1933 01:52:34,590 --> 01:52:38,790 much warmer than last night's frigid lows. And tulsa oklahoma 1934 01:52:38,820 --> 01:52:42,510 fire officials warned against unsafe heating. After a fire 1935 01:52:42,510 --> 01:52:43,800 killed an elderly woman 1936 01:52:44,010 --> 01:52:47,790 turned all the gas burners on and they set a fan next to it to 1937 01:52:47,790 --> 01:52:50,220 blow that heat into the living room. 1938 01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:53,430 On the west coast. Heavy rain caused mudslides in the Los 1939 01:52:53,430 --> 01:52:57,150 Angeles area. People there are still struggling to clean up. 1940 01:52:57,420 --> 01:53:00,810 Just as the holiday rush is getting underway. More than 2000 1941 01:53:00,810 --> 01:53:04,140 flights were either canceled or delayed Saturday morning across 1942 01:53:04,140 --> 01:53:06,900 the country. Here in Minneapolis. They're expecting 1943 01:53:06,900 --> 01:53:11,040 their coldest temperatures in December, in more than 16 years. 1944 01:53:11,190 --> 01:53:14,850 The temperature is expected to drop to more than 20 degrees 1945 01:53:14,850 --> 01:53:19,110 below zero. Michelle? Thank you, Jamie Lucas. Well, despite the 1946 01:53:19,110 --> 01:53:22,110 weather retailers say today could turn out to be the busiest 1947 01:53:22,110 --> 01:53:23,850 shopping day of the holiday season. 1948 01:53:25,230 --> 01:53:29,880 Well, I want to say something. We had a rare complete inversion 1949 01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:37,650 yesterday in Austin. 72 degrees at 4pm. Yeah. And we were warned 1950 01:53:37,650 --> 01:53:40,170 that a cold front was coming in Tina and I went out to get you 1951 01:53:40,170 --> 01:53:43,200 know, a couple of groceries. We just walked around the corner. 1952 01:53:43,290 --> 01:53:47,340 We came back and all of a sudden the two front the front hit. And 1953 01:53:47,340 --> 01:53:49,980 it was it was it was actually a little scary and they were 1954 01:53:49,980 --> 01:53:52,950 shipped flying off a balconies they were I mean, we have a lot 1955 01:53:52,950 --> 01:53:55,770 of construction here. I was worried one of the cranes might 1956 01:53:55,770 --> 01:53:59,610 come to come down it was the wind was unbelievable. Just 1957 01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:02,670 whipping through the states. And it went down the link. And this 1958 01:54:02,670 --> 01:54:06,480 morning 27. We went from 72 degrees to 27. 1959 01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:09,480 No crack a few windshields global cooling 1960 01:54:09,900 --> 01:54:12,420 air, which is what I've always asserted is really hot whenever 1961 01:54:12,420 --> 01:54:13,860 whatever, whatever the government says just think the 1962 01:54:13,860 --> 01:54:19,620 other way. Although man, your guy in California, Jerry Brown 1963 01:54:19,620 --> 01:54:22,530 is off off the rails. 1964 01:54:23,310 --> 01:54:25,590 This is not news. So he 1965 01:54:26,610 --> 01:54:29,910 it's not news. But I do have a clip of him going off the rails, 1966 01:54:29,910 --> 01:54:31,110 which is always comedic. 1967 01:54:31,140 --> 01:54:34,170 We have the laws, we have the tools of enforcement, and we 1968 01:54:34,170 --> 01:54:37,590 have the political will and we will set the stage we'll set the 1969 01:54:37,590 --> 01:54:41,550 example and whatever Washington thinks they're doing, California 1970 01:54:41,550 --> 01:54:44,340 is the future. So a lot of people say what the hell are you 1971 01:54:44,340 --> 01:54:51,990 doing Brown? You're not a country well judged by measures 1972 01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:57,420 of gross domestic product of over 2.2 trillion, were the 1973 01:54:57,570 --> 01:55:00,870 fifth or sixth largest account anything in the world? 1974 01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:04,560 And yeah, and you have one of the largest debts in the world, 1975 01:55:05,010 --> 01:55:05,700 in the world. 1976 01:55:06,390 --> 01:55:09,180 We got a lot of firepower that doesn't appear. So you got two 1977 01:55:09,180 --> 01:55:11,490 scientists, we got the universities, we have the 1978 01:55:11,490 --> 01:55:14,430 national labs, and we have the political cloud and 1979 01:55:14,430 --> 01:55:18,450 sophistication for the battle. And we will persevere. Have no 1980 01:55:18,450 --> 01:55:21,600 doubt about that. Resume. 1981 01:55:22,860 --> 01:55:25,830 Okay, sure. The Dead Kennedys clip right there. 1982 01:55:26,190 --> 01:55:28,350 Usually you have that. Well, I 1983 01:55:28,350 --> 01:55:30,840 do it did look at California. Overall, this clip is still 1984 01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:31,710 gotta be around. 1985 01:55:35,340 --> 01:55:38,790 I have the song. Well, you have a clip? Yeah. I mean, well, this 1986 01:55:38,790 --> 01:55:40,410 week. No, you don't. I don't know where it is. 1987 01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:43,890 Okay. What's he talking about? Well, he's 1988 01:55:43,890 --> 01:55:47,970 talking about the fact that they are going to fight global 1989 01:55:47,970 --> 01:55:50,460 warming, cooling, advertising, whatever you want to call it. 1990 01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:53,820 And they have the resources to do it. No money, but they have 1991 01:55:53,820 --> 01:55:55,560 the everything they are the 1992 01:55:55,590 --> 01:55:57,990 most about the law. They're passing, they're passing a law 1993 01:55:57,990 --> 01:56:01,440 saying by 20 Something all cars must be electric. That's 1994 01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:04,920 right. Just like the Netherlands, I think it's 2020. 1995 01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:07,230 Even or 2026 is real. Actually, one 1996 01:56:07,230 --> 01:56:09,300 of the dates I've noticed is that people should be on the 1997 01:56:09,300 --> 01:56:13,710 lookout for this. I've noticed a date 2021 Oh, that's a new 1998 01:56:13,710 --> 01:56:15,360 wrapping up a lot. 1999 01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:19,920 Did you see and I thought this is a message and I tried to work 2000 01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:27,360 on I tried to figure it out this heroin bust of $750 million 2001 01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:33,180 dollars. Which apparently was a not just one bus, but it was 2002 01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:38,220 they were showing all the heroin, that the DEA the largest 2003 01:56:38,220 --> 01:56:42,540 haul ever in Afghanistan, if not the world, according to ABC 2004 01:56:42,540 --> 01:56:50,970 News. 20 tons. This is gotta be a message to somebody. I mean, 2005 01:56:50,970 --> 01:56:53,820 cuz it wasn't just one. It's like, oh, here are the guys we 2006 01:56:53,820 --> 01:56:57,060 got it. No, this was a we've got all this from Afghanistan 2007 01:56:57,060 --> 01:57:00,570 recently, some time, whatever. And then you see all these 2008 01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:04,050 there's also a lot of different heroin stories popping up. Of 2009 01:57:04,050 --> 01:57:07,680 course, now we know that more people die from opioid overdose 2010 01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:13,320 then from gun them from guns, a car accident or car accidents. 2011 01:57:13,380 --> 01:57:16,470 But I think still more people die in the hospital, you know, 2012 01:57:16,470 --> 01:57:20,490 from Mercer and other horrible from being in the hospital in 2013 01:57:20,490 --> 01:57:23,940 the hospital, basically. But I don't know what it is yet. And 2014 01:57:23,940 --> 01:57:27,390 maybe one of our producers out there knows. But to me, this was 2015 01:57:27,390 --> 01:57:30,360 a message I just don't know from who to whom. 2016 01:57:31,740 --> 01:57:34,980 But well, I don't know that we have that many people inside the 2017 01:57:34,980 --> 01:57:39,720 drug industry that can tell us it'd be nice if we had one. 2018 01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:42,480 person that would be nice. 2019 01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:46,860 I don't know does it doesn't sound right. The whole thing is 2020 01:57:46,860 --> 01:57:50,190 that this maybe it's just maybe the supply has been out of 2021 01:57:50,190 --> 01:57:53,670 control, like the oil supply and they had to pull some of this 2022 01:57:53,670 --> 01:57:56,190 stuff off the market to jack up the prices a little bit because 2023 01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:59,250 the middlemen aren't getting their cut could be could be 2024 01:57:59,580 --> 01:58:03,330 because everyone keeps talking about cheap it is yeah. Maybe it 2025 01:58:03,330 --> 01:58:07,410 shouldn't be cheap anymore. Let's jack it up. Oh, oh, 2026 01:58:07,770 --> 01:58:11,340 little interim little interim Diddy. I forget these things. I 2027 01:58:11,340 --> 01:58:16,110 really do. And also when you're talking August 2015 Who the heck 2028 01:58:16,110 --> 01:58:19,620 remembers what we did on episode 745? Do you 2029 01:58:21,900 --> 01:58:25,650 we started off with the song a jingle And then 2030 01:58:26,670 --> 01:58:30,840 luckily producer Tim II sent me a clip well it brings me joy. 2031 01:58:30,930 --> 01:58:34,260 It will be railroaded out of the getting ever getting nominated. 2032 01:58:34,260 --> 01:58:37,110 And we shall see. You want to put money on that? 2033 01:58:37,530 --> 01:58:40,020 Yeah, I'll put five bucks on Trump. Okay, five bucks. It is 2034 01:58:40,020 --> 01:58:44,340 five bucks that he is he What are we going for? The Hebron 2035 01:58:44,340 --> 01:58:47,520 comic cash? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's in he's the he's the man. Oh, 2036 01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:56,040 yeah. Oh, yeah. I think you owe me $5 Indeed. And I love this 2037 01:58:56,040 --> 01:59:02,220 little ISO. That's you. That's your disdain for my prediction. 2038 01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:06,090 Yes, you win. 2039 01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:07,980 Send it over, son. 2040 01:59:09,570 --> 01:59:14,370 I will. I'll send it over with some other stuff that you you've 2041 01:59:14,460 --> 01:59:18,360 been accumulating. Let's talk about I have go ahead. I said I 2042 01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:21,750 have a series of clips that we can play before after the bigger 2043 01:59:21,750 --> 01:59:25,410 break. Okay. Oh, wait here play this first. 50 pound note this 2044 01:59:25,410 --> 01:59:26,730 came off of a British 2045 01:59:27,030 --> 01:59:30,210 Yes. War on Cash. I have a couple of these on the Where's 2046 01:59:30,210 --> 01:59:32,070 it 50 2047 01:59:32,790 --> 01:59:34,200 with an F Yes. Got our 2048 01:59:34,260 --> 01:59:39,210 bills to tax evasion. Banks say that 50 pound nodes are mostly 2049 01:59:39,210 --> 01:59:41,280 used for criminal activity. Yeah, 2050 01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:44,220 now it seems they could become a thing of the past last year the 2051 01:59:44,220 --> 01:59:47,970 Bank of England didn't print any new notes and most cash machines 2052 01:59:47,970 --> 01:59:48,960 don't dispense them. 2053 01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:51,510 Well today an article in the Financial Times questions 2054 01:59:51,510 --> 01:59:54,330 whether they're actually quietly being phased out. 2055 01:59:54,900 --> 01:59:58,710 Yeah, I had this I think I have. I saw the same bit only I pulled 2056 01:59:58,710 --> 02:00:04,230 the clip of the expert. They rot in. And I'll play that, because 2057 02:00:04,230 --> 02:00:08,430 he gave a little detail as to what other fake ideas there were 2058 02:00:08,430 --> 02:00:12,300 to remove cash from the British society. Is this the beginning 2059 02:00:12,300 --> 02:00:16,200 of the end for the 50? Well, we don't really know. I mean, as 2060 02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:18,690 you said, they didn't print any last year. But they say there 2061 02:00:18,690 --> 02:00:21,330 are reasons for that. They haven't put them into the 2062 02:00:21,330 --> 02:00:24,330 sequence of conversion to polymer, which, of course, we've 2063 02:00:24,330 --> 02:00:28,920 got the fiver. Now, the 10 pound in 2018, the 20 pound in 2020, 2064 02:00:29,100 --> 02:00:33,240 no mention of the 50. So that's another sort of little hint. And 2065 02:00:33,240 --> 02:00:36,120 of course, they're quite hard to get the cash machines generally 2066 02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:38,910 don't dispense them a few. But very rarely, you can, of course, 2067 02:00:38,910 --> 02:00:41,490 go into a bank and get them I got these fine examples 2068 02:00:41,490 --> 02:00:44,700 yesterday from a bank just down the road. And they gave me them 2069 02:00:44,700 --> 02:00:46,980 without any problem. But then there's the question, what do 2070 02:00:46,980 --> 02:00:50,100 you do with them to shops take them? And I think they are 2071 02:00:50,100 --> 02:00:54,450 becoming rarer. And so the suggestion is, they may be on 2072 02:00:54,450 --> 02:00:56,460 that slow path towards disappearing. 2073 02:00:56,759 --> 02:00:59,249 But we've touched on some of the reasons why the banks might want 2074 02:00:59,249 --> 02:01:01,409 to phase out this idea of criminal activity. And they 2075 02:01:01,409 --> 02:01:02,519 probably have a point, Danny? 2076 02:01:02,730 --> 02:01:05,820 Yes. I mean, they are the biggest store of value. 2077 02:01:06,060 --> 02:01:08,220 Certainly in England and Scotland and Northern Ireland, 2078 02:01:08,220 --> 02:01:11,610 the banks are actually a few 100 pound notes. So yes, they do 2079 02:01:11,610 --> 02:01:14,460 suspect that they're used as an easily transportable store of 2080 02:01:14,460 --> 02:01:16,830 value. But of course, they're much smaller than, for example, 2081 02:01:16,830 --> 02:01:20,610 the 500 euro note really worth nearly 10 times as much that's 2082 02:01:20,610 --> 02:01:24,900 being phased out from 2018. And of course, we saw in India 2083 02:01:24,900 --> 02:01:29,280 recently, I think you reported the 1500 rupee notes, which 2084 02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:31,800 aren't actually that high value, but they were phased out 2085 02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:34,920 immediately. And that was to stop people. And it's not just 2086 02:01:35,070 --> 02:01:37,920 big criminal activities, like buying drugs or moving money 2087 02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:41,640 around. It's also the smaller stuff like paying the builder or 2088 02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:45,720 a work person, for example, in 50s, because they don't want to 2089 02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:48,300 put the money through the books. It's all that kind of thing that 2090 02:01:48,300 --> 02:01:49,440 banks get worried about. 2091 02:01:50,039 --> 02:01:53,489 No, I don't think banks are worried at all at all at all. In 2092 02:01:53,489 --> 02:01:57,119 fact, the banks love the cash because they get to launder it. 2093 02:01:57,869 --> 02:02:00,329 I can't believe that they're saying the banks don't want 2094 02:02:00,329 --> 02:02:02,459 that. Although they are complicit, of course, the 2095 02:02:02,459 --> 02:02:04,709 ultimate goal of having no cash money. 2096 02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:08,910 What's gonna happen to money laundering with that, what goes 2097 02:02:08,910 --> 02:02:12,480 on this? Well, I've always perceived this as just a tax 2098 02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:17,940 grab. Even small change. I mean, the small transactions, I think, 2099 02:02:17,940 --> 02:02:21,840 which includes fibers and dollars and quarters, and 2100 02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:27,390 nickels, is a $3 trillion business. In other words, $3 2101 02:02:27,390 --> 02:02:31,620 trillion of small chamber did a story on this. So I got that 2102 02:02:31,620 --> 02:02:34,980 number in my head. Yeah. $3 trillion of small cash 2103 02:02:34,980 --> 02:02:38,490 transactions take place every year in the United States, if 2104 02:02:38,490 --> 02:02:42,810 you could tax that, right. And even 10%. I mean, that's a lot 2105 02:02:42,810 --> 02:02:43,350 of money. Well, 2106 02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:48,390 yeah, of course. But you can, yes, you can then tax things 2107 02:02:48,390 --> 02:02:51,030 automatically, are taxing because it came in your bank 2108 02:02:51,030 --> 02:02:54,270 account, there's control, you can freeze the bank account. A 2109 02:02:54,270 --> 02:02:57,900 lot of things can happen. Yeah, all bad. And of course, this is 2110 02:02:57,900 --> 02:03:01,470 being touted by the end we have this now in Australia, we have 2111 02:03:01,470 --> 02:03:04,500 it in India, we have it in the UK, we're talking about in the 2112 02:03:04,500 --> 02:03:07,620 US, they're talking about all over the EU with the 500 Euro 2113 02:03:07,620 --> 02:03:11,760 pound note. So cash is disappearing. We have Tim Cook 2114 02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:15,450 saying ha we're going to kill cash. He loves it. And I will 2115 02:03:15,450 --> 02:03:17,790 say of all the digital money I think Apple is probably Apple 2116 02:03:17,790 --> 02:03:21,360 Pay is probably the best. But that's not the point. 2117 02:03:21,930 --> 02:03:26,970 And now have an Apple device. What am I supposed to do I get 2118 02:03:26,970 --> 02:03:30,450 screwed because I don't use apple. Why should one company be 2119 02:03:30,450 --> 02:03:34,740 dominating anything like that? Hey, man, should be a government 2120 02:03:34,740 --> 02:03:37,740 thing of anything. Oh, yeah, I 2121 02:03:37,740 --> 02:03:41,610 want I want I don't want anyone I don't want anyone controlling 2122 02:03:41,610 --> 02:03:47,070 my cash. Anyone, not the government or Apple? No. Cash is 2123 02:03:47,070 --> 02:03:49,290 king. And so of course now everyone's saying, oh, Bitcoin, 2124 02:03:49,290 --> 02:03:52,560 it will be the new store of value. I just, I just don't see 2125 02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:52,710 it 2126 02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:55,140 that the too inconvenient to 2127 02:03:55,140 --> 02:03:59,640 thinking is that India will really push Bitcoin off the 2128 02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:02,100 chart now and I'm just not seeing and I'm watching but I 2129 02:04:02,100 --> 02:04:03,180 don't see it yet. 2130 02:04:03,900 --> 02:04:08,760 It's not gonna happen. I'm doubtful as well. Doubtful. 2131 02:04:10,860 --> 02:04:17,460 Well, I did catch while we're on the topic, I did catch a Kansas 2132 02:04:17,460 --> 02:04:20,250 native ad, I think it is native advertising for credit cards. 2133 02:04:20,490 --> 02:04:23,250 But it also has all these sub does a lot of sub text involve, 2134 02:04:23,250 --> 02:04:27,510 again, NBC, and this is about just kind of a rundown of the 2135 02:04:27,510 --> 02:04:31,590 benefits of credit card usage. I thought it was this will be my 2136 02:04:31,590 --> 02:04:34,140 divorce Tech Tip of the day because there's a lot of good 2137 02:04:34,140 --> 02:04:36,960 information in here. But as I I've had mixed feelings about 2138 02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:39,420 running because I believed it was a native ad to begin with. 2139 02:04:39,690 --> 02:04:42,390 And then it I don't know what the purpose was. And it was also 2140 02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:46,470 kind of promoting the cashless society, which I don't like. But 2141 02:04:46,470 --> 02:04:49,350 I thought there was a lot of good information in this in this 2142 02:04:49,740 --> 02:04:54,420 particular native ad on NBC, which I didn't realize they did 2143 02:04:54,420 --> 02:04:54,600 but 2144 02:04:54,630 --> 02:04:57,150 All right, everybody standby right after this clip it will be 2145 02:04:57,150 --> 02:05:01,110 time for the Forex tip of The day 2146 02:05:02,100 --> 02:05:03,450 this is the tip of the day. 2147 02:05:04,020 --> 02:05:06,030 Here's the tip of the day 2148 02:05:06,090 --> 02:05:09,270 the what you're gonna call the hidden power of plastic perks 2149 02:05:09,270 --> 02:05:11,760 and benefits a lot of credit card holders don't even know 2150 02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:16,200 they have ways to get refunds get services without any charges 2151 02:05:16,230 --> 02:05:20,610 saving you money in the process. And BCS Jolene Kent explains. 2152 02:05:21,990 --> 02:05:25,230 As you use your credit card this holiday season, you should know 2153 02:05:25,230 --> 02:05:28,260 it may have hidden benefits that can save you big money in a 2154 02:05:28,260 --> 02:05:31,290 pinch. I was super scared I didn't know what to do. When 2155 02:05:31,290 --> 02:05:33,870 Lauren Bergman's car broke down she called the number on the 2156 02:05:33,870 --> 02:05:36,990 back of her American Express card as a last resort. That 2157 02:05:36,990 --> 02:05:40,410 company sent a tow truck free of charge. I never in a million 2158 02:05:40,410 --> 02:05:42,810 years would have imagined that my credit card could do all the 2159 02:05:42,810 --> 02:05:46,140 things that it could do, and that they would be my saving 2160 02:05:46,140 --> 02:05:49,500 grace. And when Bergman dropped and shattered her iPhone after 2161 02:05:49,500 --> 02:05:53,880 her Apple warranty was up her card gave her a 100% refund. 2162 02:05:54,150 --> 02:05:57,000 Many popular credit cards offer these kinds of little known 2163 02:05:57,000 --> 02:06:01,110 benefits. According to a recent survey 81% offer extended 2164 02:06:01,110 --> 02:06:05,460 warranties 57% provide purchase protection like reimbursing you 2165 02:06:05,460 --> 02:06:09,720 for items that are lost, stolen or damaged. 47% give Price 2166 02:06:09,720 --> 02:06:12,870 Protection refunding the difference if the price drops on 2167 02:06:12,870 --> 02:06:17,430 an item within four months after purchase and 26% guarantee 2168 02:06:17,430 --> 02:06:21,060 returns. Even when stores don't you could be missing out on 2169 02:06:21,060 --> 02:06:24,150 hundreds of dollars a year in extra benefits for your credit 2170 02:06:24,150 --> 02:06:28,140 card company. Everything from roadside assistance to paying 2171 02:06:28,140 --> 02:06:31,200 for your hotel if you miss your flight due to weather related 2172 02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:34,740 travel concerns, but they don't cover everything they usually 2173 02:06:34,740 --> 02:06:38,670 exclude cars, jewelry, medical equipment and computer software. 2174 02:06:38,700 --> 02:06:40,620 At the end of the day, you never know when it could really help 2175 02:06:40,620 --> 02:06:44,370 you out experts a call or check online to discover the perks 2176 02:06:44,370 --> 02:06:48,060 that may be hiding in plain sight. Jolene, Kent, NBC News, 2177 02:06:48,090 --> 02:06:48,870 New York. 2178 02:06:49,200 --> 02:06:51,900 Next. So that's the tip. 2179 02:06:52,769 --> 02:06:56,069 I think it was a chip. And I remember that I think American 2180 02:06:56,069 --> 02:06:58,919 Express depending on the card you have, would actually cover 2181 02:06:58,919 --> 02:07:02,399 your extra insurance that you could pay for a rental car 2182 02:07:02,399 --> 02:07:06,209 rental. But the funding by the way, this also incorporated fake 2183 02:07:06,209 --> 02:07:10,979 news and B C's version of fake news because that woman who was 2184 02:07:10,979 --> 02:07:15,179 super scared, and she realized she gets a free tow she could 2185 02:07:15,179 --> 02:07:17,609 call a tow truck herself. But she gets a free tow from 2186 02:07:17,609 --> 02:07:20,939 American Express. They showed her on the phone in her car. 2187 02:07:20,999 --> 02:07:24,299 They showed the tow truck coming in. And then they showed her a 2188 02:07:24,299 --> 02:07:26,699 bit happy as a clam as a tow truck. 2189 02:07:26,910 --> 02:07:29,730 Took her car off. Yeah, I would say that's native ad for sure. 2190 02:07:30,510 --> 02:07:32,970 It was a native ad and that was fake news. There was no way that 2191 02:07:32,970 --> 02:07:35,430 this woman who was Reagan had a camera crew with her when her 2192 02:07:35,430 --> 02:07:39,000 car broke down and she was so super scared. So what was that 2193 02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:42,870 that was a reenactment it did not say reenactment at the 2194 02:07:42,870 --> 02:07:44,250 bottom of the screen. They should 2195 02:07:44,250 --> 02:07:49,080 just use one of our jingles. Which one I know and you choose 2196 02:07:49,080 --> 02:07:54,720 which one you want. We got tons of them. Fake News. We got tons 2197 02:07:54,720 --> 02:07:56,940 of fake news. We got anything you want. Hey, 2198 02:07:58,380 --> 02:08:00,720 you read that day. That's right. 2199 02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:03,870 Everybody use your Amex. It's got fake news on it. 2200 02:08:06,660 --> 02:08:09,210 Anyway, I just brought that up. There's the tip. How's 2201 02:08:09,210 --> 02:08:13,290 Good? Well, let us see. 2202 02:08:13,980 --> 02:08:16,140 I have Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. 2203 02:08:16,500 --> 02:08:23,220 I have a couple of clips from C span. Book TV. Oh, yes. This guy 2204 02:08:23,220 --> 02:08:25,680 that I thought these were very interesting. This guy wrote a 2205 02:08:25,680 --> 02:08:28,950 book. He's a professor and he wrote a lot of books. I can't 2206 02:08:28,950 --> 02:08:30,570 remember his name, but he didn't have the name of the book. You 2207 02:08:30,570 --> 02:08:34,170 can look it up and then get his name. I think it's Brennan. And 2208 02:08:34,920 --> 02:08:38,520 the book is against democracy. And he writes a bunch of he 2209 02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:41,460 writes his book and his you know, I think there's this kind 2210 02:08:41,460 --> 02:08:46,260 of a subtext movement that's going on. I'm sorry. Democracy 2211 02:08:46,260 --> 02:08:51,450 sucks. Yeah. And here's your evidence. Donald Trump is the 2212 02:08:51,450 --> 02:08:51,960 president. 2213 02:08:51,990 --> 02:08:54,630 Right? Well, that's why we're a Republican out of democracy. 2214 02:08:55,290 --> 02:08:55,770 Yep. So 2215 02:08:55,770 --> 02:08:58,380 there's that but that's not really discussed much. But but 2216 02:08:58,380 --> 02:09:02,640 he did do they do. They did a lot of market research on the on 2217 02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:04,860 the public and how they vote and what they vote about and why 2218 02:09:04,860 --> 02:09:07,170 they vote no, the rest of it. I thought a lot of it was 2219 02:09:07,170 --> 02:09:11,160 interesting. Let's play. The first one is against democracy. 2220 02:09:11,460 --> 02:09:14,100 This is that when it's on ignorance 2221 02:09:14,250 --> 02:09:18,330 to cash defensible boat. Yeah, that's right. And in a sense, 2222 02:09:18,330 --> 02:09:20,880 like, we've been doing studies of voter behavior and voter 2223 02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:25,110 knowledge for over 65 years now. And the what's interesting is 2224 02:09:25,110 --> 02:09:28,050 like how little they know is has remained constant. 65 years ago, 2225 02:09:28,050 --> 02:09:30,690 people know hardly anything. Now they know hardly anything. Even 2226 02:09:30,690 --> 02:09:32,550 though we have smartphones that contain all the world's 2227 02:09:32,550 --> 02:09:35,580 information at our fingertips. We use them to look at pictures 2228 02:09:35,580 --> 02:09:39,480 of cats and argue about meaningless things with voters 2229 02:09:39,510 --> 02:09:43,200 hardly know anything. And, you know, Philip converse, the great 2230 02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:45,630 political scientist had a nice quote about this where he said, 2231 02:09:45,810 --> 02:09:48,240 the two simplest facts I know about voter knowledge are that 2232 02:09:48,600 --> 02:09:52,770 ignorant like the mean is low and variance is high. So if 2233 02:09:52,770 --> 02:09:54,960 you're to take sort of the American electorate and give 2234 02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:58,470 them a quiz of just basic facts, most basic questions that would 2235 02:09:58,470 --> 02:10:00,840 be relevant to an election which just done every two years by 2236 02:10:00,840 --> 02:10:03,240 something called the American national election studies, what 2237 02:10:03,240 --> 02:10:06,420 you find is that really the top 25% of voters, they get sort of 2238 02:10:06,420 --> 02:10:10,140 like a B plus on this quiz, the next kind of middle 50%, they do 2239 02:10:10,140 --> 02:10:13,380 roughly about the same as chance. And the bottom 25% 2240 02:10:13,380 --> 02:10:15,510 Actually do worse than chance we give them a multiple choice 2241 02:10:15,510 --> 02:10:20,880 test, and they get more and more than 75% of questions wrong. And 2242 02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:22,860 that's the electorate the people who actually vote that when we 2243 02:10:22,860 --> 02:10:26,010 try testing, the people who stay home, they know even less. And 2244 02:10:26,010 --> 02:10:27,870 none of this would really matter if ignorance didn't make if 2245 02:10:27,870 --> 02:10:30,480 political information didn't change how we vote. But as I 2246 02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:32,550 argue in the book, it does, in fact, change how we vote. 2247 02:10:34,650 --> 02:10:37,680 is a little bit elitist stuff going on there. Yes. Even though 2248 02:10:38,430 --> 02:10:42,330 yes, for 65 years, nothing's really changed. But maybe we 2249 02:10:42,330 --> 02:10:45,480 should rethink the whole thing and let the elitist the king, 2250 02:10:45,930 --> 02:10:48,750 the king make the decision. Why should we be doing this, but I 2251 02:10:48,750 --> 02:10:52,740 found this next clip, actually is it was a generalization is 2252 02:10:52,770 --> 02:10:57,780 actually brings into the discussion, a little bit about 2253 02:10:57,780 --> 02:11:02,970 our show, oh, insofar as its conclusions are concerned, and I 2254 02:11:02,970 --> 02:11:04,680 thought this was very interesting, 2255 02:11:04,710 --> 02:11:07,140 the effect of information while controlling for that. So if you 2256 02:11:07,140 --> 02:11:09,660 give, give people a quiz, and you ask them who they are, what 2257 02:11:09,660 --> 02:11:12,510 they know and what they want, and you do this with 1000s of 2258 02:11:12,510 --> 02:11:15,690 people, you can then determine how information affects what 2259 02:11:15,690 --> 02:11:17,940 people want, while controlling for whatever effect who they are 2260 02:11:17,940 --> 02:11:20,490 has on their on their preferences. And what he finds. 2261 02:11:20,490 --> 02:11:23,640 And this is a surprising result, it's not guaranteed by the 2262 02:11:23,640 --> 02:11:26,730 method is that, in general, as people become better informed, 2263 02:11:26,730 --> 02:11:28,830 regardless of their background party, regardless of their 2264 02:11:28,830 --> 02:11:31,650 background demographics, they tend to move towards one set of 2265 02:11:31,650 --> 02:11:33,690 policies, some of the become uninformed, they tend to move 2266 02:11:33,690 --> 02:11:36,090 towards a different set of policies. And we can look at the 2267 02:11:36,090 --> 02:11:38,550 median voter in the US and find that they tend to act as if 2268 02:11:38,550 --> 02:11:41,280 they're an uninformed voter. Interestingly, other people like 2269 02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:44,220 Brian Kaplan and Martin Gilens, and a few others have done 2270 02:11:44,250 --> 02:11:46,590 similar kinds of tests using different data sets, and they 2271 02:11:46,590 --> 02:11:49,380 get the same results. So I think we can say things like, yeah, 2272 02:11:49,380 --> 02:11:52,020 Paul Krugman and I will end up disagreeing on a lot of things. 2273 02:11:52,020 --> 02:11:55,740 But in general, high information, voters are more in 2274 02:11:55,740 --> 02:11:57,900 favor of immigration than the average voter, they're more in 2275 02:11:57,900 --> 02:12:00,330 favor of free trade and the average voter, they're in favor 2276 02:12:00,330 --> 02:12:02,550 of criminal justice reform, they're actually in favor of 2277 02:12:02,550 --> 02:12:05,280 increasing taxes to offset the deficit rather than reducing 2278 02:12:05,640 --> 02:12:09,630 taxes. They're the policies they advocate, don't really go to a 2279 02:12:09,630 --> 02:12:11,970 democratic direction. They don't really go in a Republican 2280 02:12:11,970 --> 02:12:14,460 direction. They don't quite go in a libertarian direction. 2281 02:12:14,670 --> 02:12:15,930 They're nuanced. 2282 02:12:16,350 --> 02:12:21,330 Wait a minute, people who are more informed, want more higher 2283 02:12:21,330 --> 02:12:23,820 taxes and want more globalism? 2284 02:12:24,630 --> 02:12:27,330 Yes, that's what he said. And I believe here's what here's the 2285 02:12:27,330 --> 02:12:30,420 situation. I believe that what he said is true. And what we're 2286 02:12:30,420 --> 02:12:34,920 talking about are the people that are more informed than 2287 02:12:34,920 --> 02:12:38,130 other people who are like less informed. In other words, 2288 02:12:38,130 --> 02:12:40,740 they're more influenced by the mainstream media, the more 2289 02:12:40,740 --> 02:12:43,740 informed people are the ones who read the New York Times and you 2290 02:12:43,740 --> 02:12:45,930 know, religiously, and they read the Washington Post, they 2291 02:12:45,930 --> 02:12:51,210 believe it all. And they're all in on globalism, the two of us 2292 02:12:51,240 --> 02:12:56,160 because neither one of us, we'd like sovereignty. Yes. We like 2293 02:12:56,160 --> 02:12:59,910 lower taxes. Yes, we like everything. He said, Hi. And for 2294 02:12:59,910 --> 02:13:03,120 now, I don't believe there are any two people that I know that 2295 02:13:03,120 --> 02:13:07,620 are more informed than the two of us, because for all practical 2296 02:13:07,620 --> 02:13:12,540 purposes, all we do is monitor news every day, all the time. 2297 02:13:12,540 --> 02:13:15,990 It's all we do. That's all we do. So there is nobody that can 2298 02:13:15,990 --> 02:13:18,360 say well, I'm more informed you white, maybe read a few books 2299 02:13:18,480 --> 02:13:22,170 more than we do. Are you do some? No. Because you have a job 2300 02:13:22,170 --> 02:13:26,340 you have other things that this is our job. Yes. So so we are 2301 02:13:26,340 --> 02:13:31,530 hyper informed. And so what happens is you have a bunch of 2302 02:13:31,530 --> 02:13:35,790 stages the natural man who's not well informed, he's just a guy 2303 02:13:35,790 --> 02:13:37,920 who's a farmer, whatever he doesn't read The New York Times 2304 02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:41,580 doesn't care. He is the one that's where nationalism is a 2305 02:13:41,580 --> 02:13:44,040 beast probably a populist, he has all these different elements 2306 02:13:44,040 --> 02:13:48,660 that are that make his vote less informed, that somewhat informed 2307 02:13:48,660 --> 02:13:51,450 that you go to the next stage which is very important and for 2308 02:13:51,450 --> 02:13:54,900 some reason in that group, you be kick come suckered into 2309 02:13:54,900 --> 02:13:58,350 globalism you don't like the country, you I mean, whatever 2310 02:13:58,350 --> 02:14:01,590 MARK SHIELDS said earlier, shows bull crap, these guys aren't 2311 02:14:01,620 --> 02:14:05,130 patriots by any means. And they're not. And they're less 2312 02:14:05,130 --> 02:14:07,500 patriots, they're, they think that we should have open borders 2313 02:14:07,500 --> 02:14:09,930 and high taxes because the way you pay for things is by taxing 2314 02:14:09,930 --> 02:14:12,810 more. And then if you go to hyper you go one step further 2315 02:14:12,810 --> 02:14:16,620 that gets reversed and essentially, the hyper informed 2316 02:14:16,620 --> 02:14:20,970 are just like the uninformed and probably the uninformed make the 2317 02:14:20,970 --> 02:14:25,920 same proper decisions at the hyper informed guys, and that's 2318 02:14:25,920 --> 02:14:30,210 why the democracy works in this in the Republican sense. Because 2319 02:14:30,210 --> 02:14:35,070 people in in Pennsylvania who aren't hyper or or aren't hyper 2320 02:14:35,070 --> 02:14:38,040 informed, they're normal. And then you have these so called 2321 02:14:38,070 --> 02:14:41,310 really informed people and they're the smart ones that want 2322 02:14:41,310 --> 02:14:46,590 higher taxes. There's no logic to wanting higher taxes. I just 2323 02:14:46,590 --> 02:14:48,780 get the biggest kick out of people that advocate well, we 2324 02:14:48,780 --> 02:14:52,320 should have higher taxes. Why? So okay, 2325 02:14:52,559 --> 02:14:55,289 what so we can be more fair to everybody else. 2326 02:14:55,410 --> 02:15:00,600 So they end up the people that end up voting then they Like for 2327 02:15:00,600 --> 02:15:03,480 the last 65 years, they've been studying this, they end up 2328 02:15:03,480 --> 02:15:06,660 making the right decision at the end of the day. Yes, I would say 2329 02:15:06,690 --> 02:15:07,500 that's interesting. 2330 02:15:07,500 --> 02:15:11,370 Well, along those lines, I've been reading this more and more 2331 02:15:11,370 --> 02:15:13,860 on the face bag. And I think when the numbers come out, we 2332 02:15:13,860 --> 02:15:19,290 will see this is true. Because of the fake news, and the way 2333 02:15:19,290 --> 02:15:22,860 the election turned out, I'm seeing the following everywhere 2334 02:15:22,860 --> 02:15:26,670 on the bag. Oh, yes, no, I've taken two subscriptions to make 2335 02:15:26,670 --> 02:15:29,970 sure that I'm well informed. I have Washington Post and The New 2336 02:15:29,970 --> 02:15:33,990 York Times, and the print subscriptions print mainly, but 2337 02:15:33,990 --> 02:15:38,760 also digital. But subs for New York Times Wall Street Journal 2338 02:15:38,790 --> 02:15:43,290 are skyrocketing. Because everyone thinks that they are 2339 02:15:43,320 --> 02:15:46,290 ill informed and they need to support good journalism. So 2340 02:15:46,290 --> 02:15:48,870 they're taking out subscriptions for The Times and Washington 2341 02:15:48,870 --> 02:15:53,280 Post. Yeah. Which is, I mean, it's it's feeding itself. The 2342 02:15:53,280 --> 02:15:56,130 machine is feeding itself. It's fantastic. 2343 02:15:56,430 --> 02:15:59,280 Yeah, I was. I know those numbers, and it's pretty 2344 02:15:59,280 --> 02:15:59,820 interesting. 2345 02:16:00,420 --> 02:16:03,180 I'd love to know what the numbers are. Do you have, you 2346 02:16:03,180 --> 02:16:03,630 know, I don't 2347 02:16:03,630 --> 02:16:06,180 have the numbers. Exactly. But I do know, they went up by like, 2348 02:16:06,210 --> 02:16:07,020 20%. 2349 02:16:07,920 --> 02:16:10,950 And everyone on the bag is just like, oh, yeah, no, and they'll 2350 02:16:10,950 --> 02:16:12,420 have conversation just 2351 02:16:12,810 --> 02:16:15,840 about one time subscription is extremely expensive. You never 2352 02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:18,150 get your money's worth out of it. You end up dropping it 2353 02:16:18,150 --> 02:16:18,480 right. 2354 02:16:19,140 --> 02:16:21,390 Well, I wanted to inform everybody before we take a break 2355 02:16:21,390 --> 02:16:25,860 here. talk briefly about Rex Tillerson, who will be our new 2356 02:16:25,860 --> 02:16:29,910 Secretary of State. He was lampooned last night on Saturday 2357 02:16:29,910 --> 02:16:31,020 Night Live by 2358 02:16:31,740 --> 02:16:34,260 if you can dig up the Tillerson clip from the last show. I 2359 02:16:34,260 --> 02:16:35,520 forgot to move it over. 2360 02:16:35,760 --> 02:16:41,070 Sure. Let me see. Yeah, hit peace. So we play that? Yeah, 2361 02:16:41,070 --> 02:16:41,250 this 2362 02:16:41,250 --> 02:16:42,360 is a hit piece of news 2363 02:16:42,360 --> 02:16:44,580 about the Tillerson pick over the weekend. Andrea Good 2364 02:16:44,580 --> 02:16:44,880 evening. 2365 02:16:47,250 --> 02:16:50,670 wants his Secretary of State to reverse what Trump calls years 2366 02:16:50,670 --> 02:16:54,720 of misguided foreign policies hiring him precisely because 2367 02:16:54,720 --> 02:16:58,380 Tillerson is an outsider with no experience in diplomacy. In Rex 2368 02:16:58,380 --> 02:17:01,410 Tillerson Trump has found someone like himself, no 2369 02:17:01,410 --> 02:17:04,470 government experience a successful businessman whom 2370 02:17:04,470 --> 02:17:06,540 Trump aides praise as Trumpian. 2371 02:17:06,660 --> 02:17:10,470 I have a tremendous respect for him. He's a world class club. 2372 02:17:10,559 --> 02:17:13,559 Born in Wichita Falls, Texas, joining Exxon Mobil more than 2373 02:17:13,559 --> 02:17:17,909 four decades ago, from engineer to Chairman and CEO now dealing 2374 02:17:17,909 --> 02:17:20,969 with foreign governments in nearly 50 countries. But his 2375 02:17:20,969 --> 02:17:23,399 ties to one country now under the microscope, 2376 02:17:23,610 --> 02:17:28,080 my relationship with blood with Vladimir Putin, which dates back 2377 02:17:28,110 --> 02:17:32,070 almost 15 years now. I've known him since 1999. And I have a 2378 02:17:32,070 --> 02:17:35,880 very close relationship with Him. I don't agree with 2379 02:17:35,880 --> 02:17:36,960 everything he's doing. 2380 02:17:37,050 --> 02:17:39,900 Improving the tense relationship with Russia was that Trump 2381 02:17:39,900 --> 02:17:42,780 campaign promise? Wouldn't it be great if we actually got along 2382 02:17:42,780 --> 02:17:45,870 with Russia, but tonight critics are pointing to Exxon Mobil's 2383 02:17:45,870 --> 02:17:49,320 efforts to fight climate change rules and tuitions opposition to 2384 02:17:49,320 --> 02:17:50,430 sanctions on Russia 2385 02:17:50,610 --> 02:17:54,660 coziness with Vladimir Putin is there an alarming and should 2386 02:17:55,050 --> 02:17:57,240 shouldn't have been eliminated him frankly, 2387 02:17:57,300 --> 02:18:00,450 some Republicans critical to after Tillerson received a 2388 02:18:00,450 --> 02:18:02,100 friendship medal from Putin 2389 02:18:02,250 --> 02:18:06,390 when he gets the Friendship Award from a butcher. Frankly, 2390 02:18:06,960 --> 02:18:09,900 it's an issue that I think needs to be examined. 2391 02:18:10,020 --> 02:18:12,930 Married with four children tell us in the past president of the 2392 02:18:12,930 --> 02:18:16,500 Boy Scouts embracing their decision to allow gay scouts and 2393 02:18:16,500 --> 02:18:16,980 leaders 2394 02:18:16,979 --> 02:18:21,809 Yes, he wrestled with he preyed on it. And he, he ultimately 2395 02:18:21,809 --> 02:18:24,389 decided I have to do what's good for the boys. 2396 02:18:24,420 --> 02:18:26,940 His loyalty to scouting shaped his values. 2397 02:18:26,969 --> 02:18:33,029 We have a duty to this country as citizens to participate in 2398 02:18:33,029 --> 02:18:33,839 our government, 2399 02:18:34,020 --> 02:18:37,590 a Texas oilman who if confirmed will test whether his skills as 2400 02:18:37,590 --> 02:18:40,980 a global business leader can work in the world of diplomacy. 2401 02:18:41,370 --> 02:18:43,380 Andrea Mitchell, NBC News, Washington. 2402 02:18:44,039 --> 02:18:47,519 I'm Richard Engel and Moscow. Kremlin couldn't be happier with 2403 02:18:47,519 --> 02:18:51,269 the way Trump's cabinet is shaping up, especially with Rex 2404 02:18:51,269 --> 02:18:55,289 Tillerson as potential Secretary of State to let him hear Me Love 2405 02:18:55,349 --> 02:18:58,679 is a former Russian Minister of Energy. It is absolutely a gift 2406 02:18:58,679 --> 02:19:02,369 for Bucha Tillerson is best known here for making a deal 2407 02:19:02,399 --> 02:19:06,509 with an oil giant called burrows NEFT. That's its headquarters 2408 02:19:06,509 --> 02:19:11,099 over there, just over the Moscow River from the Kremlin. And 2409 02:19:11,099 --> 02:19:15,449 analysts say the company is like a cash cow for President Putin 2410 02:19:15,809 --> 02:19:19,559 and his inner circle. Learning McHale crew tea and energy 2411 02:19:19,559 --> 02:19:23,849 analyst says the dividends earned by Rosneft end up in only 2412 02:19:23,849 --> 02:19:24,689 one place 2413 02:19:24,750 --> 02:19:29,070 as as a personal purse or wallet of the restaurant president 2414 02:19:30,660 --> 02:19:34,320 could grow significantly and Tillerson is at the center of 2415 02:19:34,320 --> 02:19:38,910 it. Exxon Mobil and Russia's Rosneft have an outstanding oil 2416 02:19:38,910 --> 02:19:44,460 deal in the Arctic Russia valued at $500 billion a deal so 2417 02:19:44,460 --> 02:19:47,700 important after it he was given that Russian Medal of 2418 02:19:47,700 --> 02:19:51,870 friendship, but the deal is on hold because of US sanctions. 2419 02:19:51,930 --> 02:19:54,360 Obviously the conflict of interest is something that was 2420 02:19:54,360 --> 02:19:55,560 written on Mr. 2421 02:19:55,560 --> 02:19:59,010 Tillerson for him written on his forehead for conflict of 2422 02:19:59,010 --> 02:20:05,040 interest. Yes. especially as Secretary of State Tillerson 2423 02:20:05,070 --> 02:20:07,830 will be able to push for the lifting of the sanctions against 2424 02:20:07,830 --> 02:20:12,000 Russia, something he lobbied for as a CEO reason. Richard Engel, 2425 02:20:12,090 --> 02:20:13,560 NBC News, Mosca. 2426 02:20:13,800 --> 02:20:19,500 Now, I was surprised that it was in this report. It was kind of 2427 02:20:19,500 --> 02:20:23,760 just mentioned, but I when I was like, Oh, I'm gonna go look up 2428 02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:27,420 this guy. First of all, he's distinguished Eagle Scout. 2429 02:20:27,660 --> 02:20:29,280 That's no joke. Yeah. 2430 02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:33,480 And I know, one eagle scout in my life. Maybe I've met a couple 2431 02:20:33,480 --> 02:20:35,760 but it we had one when I was in school, because I was in the boy 2432 02:20:35,760 --> 02:20:39,480 scouts. Yeah, that is not an easy thing to come by 2433 02:20:39,510 --> 02:20:42,450 distinguish not just Eagle Scout, but distinguish Eagle 2434 02:20:42,450 --> 02:20:44,640 Scout, which is like Eagle Scout. Plus. 2435 02:20:45,180 --> 02:20:48,480 It's outrageous that anyone who I have nothing but the most 2436 02:20:48,480 --> 02:20:52,500 respect besides the submariners? Yeah. For Eagle Scouts, this is 2437 02:20:52,500 --> 02:20:53,370 a big deal. 2438 02:20:53,400 --> 02:20:57,690 Yeah. And Tillerson was the is the president of Boy Scouts of 2439 02:20:57,690 --> 02:21:01,650 America. And here's his quote, that he said in 2013, at the 2440 02:21:01,650 --> 02:21:04,560 National annual meeting, no youth may be denied membership 2441 02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:07,920 in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation 2442 02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:11,970 or preference alone. And, and we're willing to come bash him 2443 02:21:11,970 --> 02:21:15,990 about being a Putin lover and everything. And of course, 2444 02:21:16,020 --> 02:21:19,050 everyone has funny jokes about the Boy Scouts, obviously, 2445 02:21:19,050 --> 02:21:22,680 hahaha, yes. All pedophiles. Sure, whatever. But you can't 2446 02:21:22,680 --> 02:21:26,220 deny that one of the main things that the left has against the 2447 02:21:26,220 --> 02:21:29,790 entire Trump administration. Is there a bunch of racist homo 2448 02:21:29,790 --> 02:21:33,510 haters, and that one won't stick with Tillerson? 2449 02:21:34,980 --> 02:21:37,230 And they go the Putin route with him 2450 02:21:37,260 --> 02:21:41,550 and I watched his his whole industry make Kane again. Oh, 2451 02:21:41,550 --> 02:21:46,260 this guy and someone criticized within my personal sphere, that 2452 02:21:46,260 --> 02:21:49,410 you guys are always you'd only harp on the left only the left I 2453 02:21:49,410 --> 02:21:54,570 said no. We hate the two biggest right wing a holes. McCain and 2454 02:21:54,570 --> 02:21:55,200 Graham. 2455 02:21:55,770 --> 02:21:59,700 Yeah. Used to be three of them. One of them got ousted. Finally 2456 02:21:59,730 --> 02:22:01,440 AR T out got out as to 2457 02:22:02,850 --> 02:22:06,300 anyway, so I you know, that's a good little tidbit to hold in 2458 02:22:06,300 --> 02:22:08,970 the back of your pocket. If you ever get cornered by a bunch of 2459 02:22:08,970 --> 02:22:09,450 people. 2460 02:22:12,630 --> 02:22:16,410 Don't ever get cornered. But well, you never go out. I know I 2461 02:22:16,410 --> 02:22:19,350 stay at home all the time. And you don't want to buy stuff. But 2462 02:22:19,350 --> 02:22:22,860 I'm going to be at the big meet up in Beverly Hills next Monday. 2463 02:22:22,890 --> 02:22:26,280 Oh, don't forget, we got a big meetup per day after Christmas. 2464 02:22:26,730 --> 02:22:29,670 I'll be sending out a note about it. Probably tomorrow. If you're 2465 02:22:29,670 --> 02:22:34,710 not on the newsletter, you better be alright. And on 2466 02:22:34,710 --> 02:22:39,090 Thursday, I'll give more details if we need to, I think you know 2467 02:22:39,090 --> 02:22:42,930 by then. All right. And so I go out for that. Now, back to this 2468 02:22:42,960 --> 02:22:46,350 this guy. I like this tilt. I think he's a gruff character 2469 02:22:46,350 --> 02:22:48,540 that I probably wouldn't get along with. Or maybe it'd be 2470 02:22:48,540 --> 02:22:51,390 good drinking, buddy. I don't know. Hey, he's got the 2471 02:22:51,390 --> 02:22:53,820 credentials. You what? Do you want to put somebody in there 2472 02:22:53,820 --> 02:22:57,600 that he hates Russia and AIDS? Putin? Is that what you want? 2473 02:22:57,600 --> 02:22:59,700 Yeah, apparently. Why? 2474 02:23:00,210 --> 02:23:03,960 Well, what a first of all, he has conflict of interest written 2475 02:23:03,960 --> 02:23:04,980 on his forehead. I heard 2476 02:23:04,980 --> 02:23:09,300 it myself. Yeah, that guy would know. Yeah, he has to give up 2477 02:23:09,300 --> 02:23:09,870 everything. 2478 02:23:11,490 --> 02:23:14,370 I mean, he has to give up all every yes to his stock. He has 2479 02:23:14,370 --> 02:23:15,660 to give all that up. It's one 2480 02:23:15,660 --> 02:23:19,170 of those guys who said in the in the clip, he put it in there. I 2481 02:23:19,170 --> 02:23:22,890 think you're I think you if you're if you're an American, 2482 02:23:22,890 --> 02:23:25,590 you're obligated to do this stuff. I mean, he's got to have 2483 02:23:25,590 --> 02:23:30,060 just salary alone is $25 million a year from Exxon Mobil. Who 2484 02:23:30,060 --> 02:23:31,980 knows what he makes into the stock? Because in the rest of 2485 02:23:31,980 --> 02:23:36,540 it, that he's giving him a job that pay for a job that pays 2486 02:23:36,540 --> 02:23:39,660 $200,000? Doesn't anybody look at it from the perspective as 2487 02:23:39,660 --> 02:23:44,700 holy crap? We're getting a CEO, high end CEO guy that makes 2488 02:23:45,120 --> 02:23:47,790 millions of dollars, and we're getting him on the cheap. 2489 02:23:47,850 --> 02:23:50,970 Yeah. I mean, it would be the equivalent of saying we can't 2490 02:23:50,970 --> 02:23:55,950 have Tom Collins in our administration. I'm sorry, Tim 2491 02:23:55,950 --> 02:24:02,700 Cook. Because he would favor China. Because he makes his 2492 02:24:02,700 --> 02:24:05,010 stuff in China. I mean, that would be similar to that, 2493 02:24:05,040 --> 02:24:07,200 although it never happened. Because everyone would say Tim 2494 02:24:07,200 --> 02:24:12,900 Cook is awesome. Bring him in. Yeah. And but for a moment, then 2495 02:24:13,890 --> 02:24:18,810 it's against McCain's. And I understand but you have the 2496 02:24:18,810 --> 02:24:21,990 thing. So we have two things. at play. We have the military 2497 02:24:21,990 --> 02:24:27,270 industrial complex, and we have the, the oil and gas industry. 2498 02:24:27,420 --> 02:24:32,970 And often Of course, we know that the State Department sets 2499 02:24:33,000 --> 02:24:37,890 up the extraction of a gas and oil, which is usually done heavy 2500 02:24:37,890 --> 02:24:42,870 handedly through the Department of Defense. So okay, so we have 2501 02:24:42,900 --> 02:24:45,420 Tillerson is going to be in, he's going to be friends with 2502 02:24:45,420 --> 02:24:48,630 Russia. What is going to happen on the global oil market? What 2503 02:24:48,630 --> 02:24:53,490 is the strategy? Or maybe gas would be more interesting to 2504 02:24:53,520 --> 02:24:56,220 look at that. What is the strategy? Are we going to say 2505 02:24:56,220 --> 02:25:03,780 okay, Russia, go ahead Do your Syrian pipeline with Iran? And 2506 02:25:03,780 --> 02:25:06,510 have the gas flow into Europe through Cyprus or Greece or 2507 02:25:06,510 --> 02:25:09,360 whatever you want to do? I mean, what is the strategy who we want 2508 02:25:09,360 --> 02:25:12,000 to help ourselves? isn't America first cabinet? 2509 02:25:12,029 --> 02:25:14,999 Right? And I think somebody made the observation is that well, 2510 02:25:14,999 --> 02:25:18,689 why? Why fool around with our State Department's entire 2511 02:25:18,689 --> 02:25:22,169 business has been to get oil? Yeah, for the country? Why don't 2512 02:25:22,169 --> 02:25:24,899 we just put an oil guy in there? I think that what's going to 2513 02:25:24,899 --> 02:25:28,259 happen is it's going to probably be about a bunch of instead of 2514 02:25:28,259 --> 02:25:32,279 these disputes and these battles and the death of American 2515 02:25:32,279 --> 02:25:35,189 soldiers over some of this stuff, there'll be some 2516 02:25:35,189 --> 02:25:38,579 agreements, the Russians can have their like when the mob got 2517 02:25:38,579 --> 02:25:42,569 his act together, you know, and then they had the big meetings 2518 02:25:42,569 --> 02:25:45,509 where the different okay Lucchese, you get this area, 2519 02:25:45,539 --> 02:25:48,779 Genova AC, you guys get this, and then you don't cross that 2520 02:25:48,779 --> 02:25:53,039 line, you can have that well, then they make a deal instead of 2521 02:25:53,039 --> 02:25:57,539 fighting about it. And then everybody benefits supposedly we 2522 02:25:57,539 --> 02:26:00,779 get out of a war, and we maybe can have a booming economy in 2523 02:26:00,779 --> 02:26:02,969 the 2020 era. Now, 2524 02:26:02,970 --> 02:26:07,500 do you think that it is possible that the Russians, I'll just say 2525 02:26:07,500 --> 02:26:12,030 Putin to make it easy, that he has some ideas up his sleeve for 2526 02:26:12,030 --> 02:26:17,370 more domination? Once he is he gets friendly noise from the new 2527 02:26:17,370 --> 02:26:19,800 administration? That mean, do we really trust him? 2528 02:26:21,030 --> 02:26:23,940 Well, I think you have to take everything with you. I mean, 2529 02:26:24,270 --> 02:26:26,460 Tillerson said himself that he doesn't agree with everything 2530 02:26:26,460 --> 02:26:29,940 Putin has ever done. And no, of course not you but you don't 2531 02:26:30,570 --> 02:26:34,440 just saber rattle column name, so they can't make any products 2532 02:26:34,440 --> 02:26:39,750 and call them out and active rudely. Right. With these guys. 2533 02:26:39,780 --> 02:26:41,970 Yeah, especially in Antarctica is going to be the 2534 02:26:43,590 --> 02:26:48,630 next, you know, Then why won't Trump do this? I meant Arctic 2535 02:26:48,630 --> 02:26:51,660 nut and Arctic, Then why won't Trump do the same with China? 2536 02:26:51,660 --> 02:26:54,600 He's only been antagonizing them saying they're a holes and 2537 02:26:54,600 --> 02:26:57,600 they're criminals and its 2538 02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:01,830 own I think he is going to do the same thing. That's why he 2539 02:27:01,830 --> 02:27:04,710 sent that there. I wouldn't go into China as Dan or he's going 2540 02:27:04,710 --> 02:27:09,990 to send him as an ambassador. And I think I think I don't know 2541 02:27:09,990 --> 02:27:12,300 I don't see any of these guys as problematic. 2542 02:27:12,450 --> 02:27:14,790 Oh, I'm not talking about these guys. I'm talking about okay, 2543 02:27:14,790 --> 02:27:19,680 you know, what is? What is we're going to be America first. But I 2544 02:27:20,280 --> 02:27:23,820 I'm not necessarily on board thinking that Chinese Russians 2545 02:27:23,820 --> 02:27:26,670 and other actors don't want to dominate themselves they want to 2546 02:27:26,670 --> 02:27:27,300 dominate. 2547 02:27:29,820 --> 02:27:34,140 Yeah, I'm sure they do. So do we, that that's not going to 2548 02:27:34,140 --> 02:27:36,540 change, but it's going to be done differently. There's no 2549 02:27:36,540 --> 02:27:39,720 reason to you know, have these little skirmishes all over the 2550 02:27:39,720 --> 02:27:42,900 place and have saber rattling and threatened new 2551 02:27:43,770 --> 02:27:46,950 war recourse I agree with that. I agree with that. Particularly 2552 02:27:46,950 --> 02:27:51,090 when you make the ultimate mistake that you know, the first 2553 02:27:51,090 --> 02:27:54,540 rule of have a handgun if you pull a gun out on someone you 2554 02:27:54,540 --> 02:27:58,170 shoot you don't threaten with it. And we seem to be like the 2555 02:27:58,170 --> 02:28:00,090 gun pullers and waving them around 2556 02:28:01,440 --> 02:28:04,020 and you got to remember this one thing is always overlooked is 2557 02:28:04,020 --> 02:28:09,870 Russia and China both have been our traditional allies in real 2558 02:28:09,870 --> 02:28:10,500 wars 2559 02:28:10,890 --> 02:28:12,480 and in the big ones here right. 2560 02:28:13,860 --> 02:28:16,200 And real wars where there were there's millions of people 2561 02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:21,810 killed yeah they've always been our ally so way we are enemies 2562 02:28:21,810 --> 02:28:26,460 and they give you listen to Cheney or enemies or adversaries 2563 02:28:26,730 --> 02:28:30,300 or their adversary economically because they want to pump some 2564 02:28:30,300 --> 02:28:32,640 oil out of their places they got a big well yeah, 2565 02:28:32,640 --> 02:28:35,640 it's our interest sure they want to sell to people we want to 2566 02:28:35,640 --> 02:28:38,130 sell to I think that's ultimately the idea well, 2567 02:28:38,130 --> 02:28:40,230 but that's the same with all business you don't need 2568 02:28:40,230 --> 02:28:42,720 necessarily go to the dry cleaners because you got to dry 2569 02:28:42,720 --> 02:28:46,080 cleaning the gun the guy down so you get better your his take his 2570 02:28:46,080 --> 02:28:47,040 business away. You 2571 02:28:47,040 --> 02:28:51,330 clearly have never been in Texas. When we get shitty dry 2572 02:28:51,330 --> 02:28:53,070 cleaning we come in guns blazing 2573 02:28:53,699 --> 02:28:57,269 I'm gonna show must go by donate to no agenda. Imagine all the 2574 02:28:57,329 --> 02:28:59,729 people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun 2575 02:29:07,680 --> 02:29:13,320 All right. Yeah. A few people to thank for show 8871801 more to 2576 02:29:13,320 --> 02:29:17,310 go. It's been a very disappointing campaign are 2577 02:29:17,310 --> 02:29:21,030 synonymous in Ohio. 199 dot 99. Apparently no note or anything 2578 02:29:21,030 --> 02:29:28,500 wanted to be out of the big list. Sir Andrew harms Casey. Is 2579 02:29:28,500 --> 02:29:34,650 that K cow? what is k cow? AC zero Debbie. i Yeah, it's 2580 02:29:34,650 --> 02:29:37,500 kilo. Charlie, Oscar whiskey, India, India. 2581 02:29:37,560 --> 02:29:39,690 No, I don't think it's zero. Not Oscar. 2582 02:29:40,800 --> 02:29:45,060 I'm sorry, zero. I said Oscar me kilo. Charlie's zero. We speak 2583 02:29:45,210 --> 02:29:46,290 India. Okay. 2584 02:29:47,039 --> 02:29:50,639 Occasion Omaha Lennon. $11.11. Wesley Walker in Pacifica, 2585 02:29:50,639 --> 02:29:54,179 California right over here, where the city is slowly falling 2586 02:29:54,179 --> 02:29:58,349 into the ocean. Very amusing situation, but it's always been 2587 02:29:58,349 --> 02:30:03,929 that way. Yeah. You have to keep moving east Yeah $100 Even 2588 02:30:04,259 --> 02:30:08,489 Christopher Hinkle who patchy junction junction Arizona 100 2589 02:30:08,789 --> 02:30:12,329 David when at 88 rockville center New York and these are 2590 02:30:12,359 --> 02:30:17,609 ADA ADA contributions and let me let me get a cursor on this 2591 02:30:17,609 --> 02:30:23,099 thing and scroll down lock the cursor in on it. Harm of these 2592 02:30:23,099 --> 02:30:27,359 are all ADH. There's a few of them harm Vanessa and Boris 2593 02:30:27,419 --> 02:30:32,369 Devlin's. Feenstra Fanes thrugh harm phase red board. 2594 02:30:33,449 --> 02:30:40,469 Netherlands. Nathan kradic Parts Unknown. Sir Kevin of Devon. Gig 2595 02:30:40,469 --> 02:30:44,909 Harbor, Washington. Kevin Smith. Not that Kevin Smith, but the 2596 02:30:44,909 --> 02:30:52,079 one that we have. Ada ADA David Carr Dania Don Mills, these are 2597 02:30:52,349 --> 02:30:58,109 there's no cities listed here. Not sure why. Robert Alter. 2598 02:30:59,039 --> 02:31:03,929 Brent Dombroski. Seth Griffin in Highland Park. I'm sorry, he 2599 02:31:03,929 --> 02:31:09,059 dropped that's the end of them. And Seth comes in with ad.at Ada 2600 02:31:09,059 --> 02:31:10,109 dot ADA 2601 02:31:11,850 --> 02:31:15,600 sprinkler heads 98880 Very nice. Have a drink of water. Okay, 2602 02:31:15,630 --> 02:31:18,210 actually, that's more Yeah, that's gonna get a bit of a 2603 02:31:18,210 --> 02:31:19,710 drink of water. Hold on a second. Let me have this I'll 2604 02:31:19,710 --> 02:31:20,730 have a drink of water on. 2605 02:31:21,840 --> 02:31:28,800 Everybody have a drink? There we go. Shannon, your favorite? 2606 02:31:29,130 --> 02:31:36,000 Yeah. Canon Winchester and two lot in Oregon. Our tulips and I 2607 02:31:36,000 --> 02:31:43,530 think it's too late to be doing and that's a oh eight boob 2608 02:31:43,530 --> 02:31:47,700 surface or Black Knight is black knights are lineman of the net. 2609 02:31:48,180 --> 02:31:54,090 Boob. Alex croak, in Brooklyn at that booth, by the way in this 2610 02:31:54,090 --> 02:32:00,570 particular newsletter was the FCC. Oh, oh, Alex. Alex croak in 2611 02:32:00,570 --> 02:32:05,430 Brooklyn, New York. Roger boots in Mechanicsville, Iowa. Onward 2612 02:32:05,430 --> 02:32:12,000 to Caleb Holstrom in on Alaska, Wisconsin. 6969 Shannon Davis 2613 02:32:12,000 --> 02:32:16,050 5777 Dean rookery 55 Double nickels on the dime and now 2614 02:32:16,050 --> 02:32:18,420 we've got already down to the $50 donors and let's start with 2615 02:32:18,420 --> 02:32:21,840 Scott lavender in Montgomery, Texas. Michael gates in Colorado 2616 02:32:21,840 --> 02:32:27,150 Springs, Colorado, Israel Kozar as in Parts Unknown John camp 2617 02:32:27,150 --> 02:32:30,720 and antlers Oklahoma, Sir David Robertson, in Norristown, 2618 02:32:30,720 --> 02:32:39,090 Pennsylvania. Akhmetov Hajra in Danville, Virginia. Brian Rooney 2619 02:32:39,300 --> 02:32:43,560 in Smyrna, Georgia, I think he's a knight. Joel de ruin. I think 2620 02:32:43,560 --> 02:32:49,590 he's an I do 50 Paul redkin. Canada somewhere it says he may 2621 02:32:49,590 --> 02:32:53,670 be a night to Matthew Mongan in Baltimore, Maryland. And last 2622 02:32:53,670 --> 02:32:57,570 but not least, Bill LeClaire in Riverdale, Michigan. Oops, 2623 02:32:57,570 --> 02:33:01,110 there's one more. ANDREW HARRISON in Gravenhurst, 2624 02:33:01,170 --> 02:33:02,760 Ontario, Canada. 2625 02:33:03,660 --> 02:33:09,660 And we have a special thing here. Michael Reed would like to 2626 02:33:09,660 --> 02:33:12,930 wish a happy 10th anniversary to his smokin hot wife love of his 2627 02:33:12,930 --> 02:33:13,830 life, Julie. 2628 02:33:15,630 --> 02:33:18,300 So there's that me with a fake bud? 2629 02:33:18,420 --> 02:33:23,490 Yeah, a short short showing. Short, short, short, short 2630 02:33:23,490 --> 02:33:26,340 showing. Okay. Well, we do have another show coming up on 2631 02:33:26,490 --> 02:33:29,070 Thursday. And we certainly hope that well, that is the triple 2632 02:33:29,070 --> 02:33:33,000 eight, the big eight show. So we really hope that you will be 2633 02:33:33,000 --> 02:33:35,910 participating that as producers of the program, we thank 2634 02:33:35,910 --> 02:33:40,110 everybody, of course, for bringing us some value and thank 2635 02:33:40,110 --> 02:33:43,080 everybody profusely who came in under $50. Typically for reasons 2636 02:33:43,080 --> 02:33:45,330 of anonymity, but also a lot of people on the subscriptions. 2637 02:33:45,480 --> 02:33:49,950 Check it out. Also look at the 33. The 33 can get your podcasts 2638 02:33:49,950 --> 02:33:52,710 license if you're so inclined. And of course, one day you will 2639 02:33:52,710 --> 02:33:55,650 actually need that as we become an official licensing agency. 2640 02:33:58,260 --> 02:34:02,190 He says Yeah, I heard that on the show. Yeah, you sent him 2641 02:34:02,190 --> 02:34:05,220 with a straight face. I didn't mention the you got on the two 2642 02:34:05,220 --> 02:34:09,810 shows. And so I saw them both. So didn't go through all of the 2643 02:34:10,170 --> 02:34:16,320 stuff with Alex. But he you said I think suit with a straight 2644 02:34:16,320 --> 02:34:21,900 face to the rt show. Guys with Max Keiser Heiser, you said, 2645 02:34:21,930 --> 02:34:25,920 Yes, we're an official licensing agency. You said Fake news is 2646 02:34:25,920 --> 02:34:31,440 what that was. Yeah, apparently. Maybe not just gonna have to 2647 02:34:31,440 --> 02:34:31,980 report it. 2648 02:34:32,939 --> 02:34:35,339 I'm setting it up for him. I'm setting up. He's getting a 2649 02:34:35,339 --> 02:34:37,769 podcast license. He'll need one. He'd be the first guy to go 2650 02:34:37,769 --> 02:34:41,969 down. We got to protect our people protect them. So yes, 2651 02:34:41,969 --> 02:34:43,949 thank you everybody. And remember our show coming up on 2652 02:34:43,949 --> 02:34:44,429 Thursday. 2653 02:34:44,460 --> 02:34:47,460 VO red.org/and 2654 02:34:47,519 --> 02:34:51,899 A karma for anybody who needs it just in case. You've got karma 2655 02:34:51,899 --> 02:34:55,199 and no title changes. No knights buck. We got a couple 2656 02:34:55,199 --> 02:35:04,709 of Oh, we've got Alex croak saying oh, wait man is his 2657 02:35:04,709 --> 02:35:08,129 birthday on December 24. So we say happy birthday to him. It'll 2658 02:35:08,129 --> 02:35:11,939 be 45 Don Mills is Happy Birthday to Tom Todd masa, Mesa, 2659 02:35:11,939 --> 02:35:16,199 Arizona. And we all collectively say happy birthday to Steven. He 2660 02:35:16,199 --> 02:35:20,999 is void zero son. And he turns away turned one year old 2661 02:35:20,999 --> 02:35:25,589 yesterday, December 17. So we say Happy Birthday nice for all 2662 02:35:25,619 --> 02:35:26,459 70. What 2663 02:35:27,930 --> 02:35:30,330 if they just had this kid is years gone? 2664 02:35:30,360 --> 02:35:32,970 Yeah, it's a year, man. It's crazy. It's a year. Happy 2665 02:35:32,970 --> 02:35:39,390 birthday, Steven from Uncle John and Uncle Adam. I know, time 2666 02:35:39,390 --> 02:35:45,270 flies. It's crazy. Couple of things real quick. I want to 2667 02:35:45,270 --> 02:35:49,620 give you the first one. Unbelievable. We keep talking 2668 02:35:49,620 --> 02:35:55,170 about comprehensive immigration reform. And what do I always say 2669 02:35:55,170 --> 02:36:00,900 is the biggest problem with our immigration system. It's the 2670 02:36:01,080 --> 02:36:05,490 cost. It's the cost. It's the call. Yeah, you're right. The 2671 02:36:05,490 --> 02:36:09,690 fees, the fees, now they're going up. Again, check it out. 2672 02:36:11,460 --> 02:36:16,140 So, application to register permanent residence or adjust 2673 02:36:16,140 --> 02:36:20,610 status. Everybody needs this. That's the That's a form i 485. 2674 02:36:20,610 --> 02:36:25,230 I've done this. It already cost $985 to fill out your 2675 02:36:25,230 --> 02:36:32,130 application. They're jacking that up 16% 2% to $1,140. I 2676 02:36:32,130 --> 02:36:39,030 mean, why? Because they can, there is no reason given. Now 2677 02:36:39,030 --> 02:36:41,130 you need to have a whole bunch of other things. You need a 2678 02:36:41,820 --> 02:36:46,200 genealogy index search, you need a records request. Just give you 2679 02:36:46,200 --> 02:36:49,890 some idea. So we have the everything's going up, but some 2680 02:36:49,890 --> 02:36:55,470 of them by 57%. So if you are petitioning for your fiancee to 2681 02:36:56,160 --> 02:36:59,190 please Can my fiancee come into the country? We're going to get 2682 02:36:59,190 --> 02:37:03,750 married, which is a legal process. That's for him. I 129 F 2683 02:37:04,380 --> 02:37:11,250 that already cost $340 That's going up 57% to $535. I mean, 2684 02:37:11,280 --> 02:37:17,430 this is insane. Insane. All of these fees are you know, at the 2685 02:37:17,850 --> 02:37:22,530 about half $1,000 Here. Immigrant petition by alien 2686 02:37:22,530 --> 02:37:29,370 entrepreneur. Yeah, check this out form i 526. Was $1,500 is 2687 02:37:29,370 --> 02:37:34,410 going up to $3,675. This is just a rip off. 2688 02:37:34,830 --> 02:37:37,620 That's more than doubling application for 2689 02:37:38,220 --> 02:37:42,210 Oh, okay. So you know, you have this one sneaky one where you 2690 02:37:42,210 --> 02:37:46,680 can if you're an immigrant investor, this is very 2691 02:37:46,680 --> 02:37:52,560 controversial. Yes. Yeah. So that that application, just a 2692 02:37:52,560 --> 02:37:58,020 piece of paper cost $6,230 I guess they ate so successful 2693 02:37:58,020 --> 02:38:08,460 that jacking it up to $17,795. Why? Now, this is the problem, 2694 02:38:08,550 --> 02:38:13,440 when you have a family of five or whatever you have. Who can 2695 02:38:13,440 --> 02:38:17,010 afford this kind of money. This is why people don't get legal 2696 02:38:17,010 --> 02:38:22,410 aid is too expensive. As read just cheat. Of course, it's in 2697 02:38:22,410 --> 02:38:25,230 the show notes if anyone wants to go and have a look at that. 2698 02:38:25,590 --> 02:38:32,250 Our real problem here in the United States. A couple clips 2699 02:38:32,250 --> 02:38:34,800 from the UK, which I thought might be interesting from 2700 02:38:34,800 --> 02:38:42,660 filmmaker Martin Durkin. He's more like a UK guy. And he this 2701 02:38:42,660 --> 02:38:46,230 is this will be actually be kind of a good call back. So he 2702 02:38:46,260 --> 02:38:52,320 blames the Brexit, not on the Russians. Not necessarily on 2703 02:38:52,320 --> 02:38:53,580 Trump and on something else. 2704 02:38:53,640 --> 02:38:56,040 And Martin, I guess the other kind of big context is this war 2705 02:38:56,040 --> 02:38:59,010 on sugar, which is incredible, you know, went from tobacco to 2706 02:38:59,010 --> 02:39:01,530 alcohol assault for a while and then all those assault groups 2707 02:39:01,560 --> 02:39:04,380 seem to turn into anti sugar groups. What do you make of this 2708 02:39:04,380 --> 02:39:07,500 kind of new frontier in this sort of nanny status? And what 2709 02:39:07,500 --> 02:39:09,000 do you think it says just really about the kind of killed 2710 02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:11,970 jointness of it, you can't even enjoy a cake without that being 2711 02:39:11,970 --> 02:39:13,590 seen as some sort of aberrant behavior. 2712 02:39:13,769 --> 02:39:17,579 No, it's enormous ly miserable list, and it creates like a blow 2713 02:39:17,579 --> 02:39:20,099 some cancer. And the difficulty is, as we were saying, Before, 2714 02:39:20,159 --> 02:39:21,689 you know, if someone comes down to your door and say, right, 2715 02:39:21,689 --> 02:39:24,089 we're gonna bucket you know, we're going to stand up. You 2716 02:39:24,089 --> 02:39:25,679 know, the thing is, you're not going to give up your Saturday 2717 02:39:25,679 --> 02:39:29,309 we go on, we have a plaque out about curtains ran booze, or, 2718 02:39:29,849 --> 02:39:32,159 you know, reformulation of cream crackers or something like that, 2719 02:39:32,159 --> 02:39:36,419 you know, every every assault is sufficiently small, that you 2720 02:39:36,419 --> 02:39:38,579 know, you aren't just not going to get off your ass to do 2721 02:39:38,579 --> 02:39:40,499 something about it. And what happens is, there's an 2722 02:39:40,499 --> 02:39:43,349 accumulation of grievances and it's not just food. I mean, you 2723 02:39:43,349 --> 02:39:45,479 know, they're just so the other day that teachers were 2724 02:39:45,479 --> 02:39:49,979 complaining the Beauty and the Beast was sexist or fuck majors 2725 02:39:49,979 --> 02:39:53,009 or bestest or whatever the damn thing is. There's something 2726 02:39:53,009 --> 02:39:56,819 wrong with that. And likewise, it's all these little things, 2727 02:39:56,819 --> 02:40:02,009 all these intrusions all these absurd little kind of niggles. 2728 02:40:02,279 --> 02:40:10,529 Milgauss niggle until you vote Trump or you vote. All these all 2729 02:40:10,529 --> 02:40:14,159 these bankers, excuse my French sort of standing on going pub, 2730 02:40:14,159 --> 02:40:18,389 why did they vote Trump? Was it because of his protectionist 2731 02:40:18,389 --> 02:40:21,599 argument was it because of this, but they didn't know what his 2732 02:40:21,599 --> 02:40:23,669 arguments they didn't know of the product. They just knew 2733 02:40:23,759 --> 02:40:28,139 Trump wasn't all that crap. It wasn't less sugar. It wasn't 2734 02:40:28,139 --> 02:40:29,759 Beauty and the Beast is feminist. 2735 02:40:30,179 --> 02:40:33,449 And he goes on to say that it really is the universities who 2736 02:40:33,449 --> 02:40:36,299 are creating all these idiotic children. Well, I'm 2737 02:40:36,300 --> 02:40:39,240 glad that bank fizzy drinks and universities I hope they ban 2738 02:40:39,510 --> 02:40:43,680 lager, and food, plenty of other things in order to discourage 2739 02:40:43,680 --> 02:40:47,400 people from going collusion that universities are, in fact a 2740 02:40:47,400 --> 02:40:50,460 terrible evil social force, we should do everything in our 2741 02:40:50,460 --> 02:40:54,180 power to discourage them. As far as I can see, most students are 2742 02:40:54,180 --> 02:40:58,800 fascists. And people complain when I say that they all do. 2743 02:40:58,800 --> 02:41:02,220 They don't want to push Jews into you know, chambers, I mean, 2744 02:41:02,250 --> 02:41:04,770 Italian fascists, you know, they're not, they're not quite 2745 02:41:04,770 --> 02:41:06,990 as the Germans are. Some of them are the Germans, but they're 2746 02:41:06,990 --> 02:41:10,080 made mainly Italian fascists. And they are they're not to 2747 02:41:10,080 --> 02:41:12,990 learn useful things in order to go and lead productive lives. 2748 02:41:12,990 --> 02:41:15,810 They're there in order to join the new class and tell us all 2749 02:41:15,810 --> 02:41:19,050 what to do. And a few of them number go on to be lectures and 2750 02:41:19,050 --> 02:41:21,360 things like that. And they're the ones who are behind all 2751 02:41:21,360 --> 02:41:25,650 this, banning fizzy drinks. But as I say, the more universities 2752 02:41:25,650 --> 02:41:28,560 implode, the better for all of us, I think. And then 2753 02:41:28,560 --> 02:41:32,100 finally, he has a nice call back to the opening of our show. 2754 02:41:32,159 --> 02:41:34,349 I think there's a there's a class gap as well. I mean, I'm 2755 02:41:34,349 --> 02:41:36,539 worried about the generation thing, because when my kids were 2756 02:41:36,539 --> 02:41:39,299 growing up, and you know, and they and the teachers brought 2757 02:41:39,299 --> 02:41:41,879 appalled when you know, bit of global warming homework came in. 2758 02:41:42,119 --> 02:41:44,759 And I said, Well, political bollocks that was. And so, you 2759 02:41:44,759 --> 02:41:47,309 know, I made sure they went in with the right homework saying 2760 02:41:47,309 --> 02:41:49,499 this was all nonsense, because got them into trouble as 2761 02:41:49,529 --> 02:41:52,739 teachers were annoyed. All of that nonsense, which I didn't 2762 02:41:52,739 --> 02:41:56,489 think too much of, you know, has produced the, you know, 2763 02:41:56,489 --> 02:41:59,729 generation of students that we've got today, but also think 2764 02:41:59,729 --> 02:42:02,609 there's a class thing. I think universities only semi flippin 2765 02:42:02,609 --> 02:42:05,429 what I said before, I think universities are churning out a 2766 02:42:05,429 --> 02:42:09,899 class of people who are the class of the Hillary Clinton's 2767 02:42:10,169 --> 02:42:12,959 and the Tony Blair's, and the people who will, you know, who 2768 02:42:12,959 --> 02:42:16,019 imagine themselves as part of the state who ally with the 2769 02:42:16,019 --> 02:42:19,409 state who imagine themselves as middle class tax consumers, 2770 02:42:19,499 --> 02:42:22,709 union and arts establishment or some such thing or a university. 2771 02:42:22,979 --> 02:42:26,489 And they are and that's the real class divide. Now, I think the 2772 02:42:26,489 --> 02:42:29,909 class divide is between upper class tax consumers because I 2773 02:42:29,909 --> 02:42:32,489 think the state is really there for the upper middle class and 2774 02:42:32,489 --> 02:42:35,699 the intelligentsia and not the non ordinary people, and the 2775 02:42:35,699 --> 02:42:42,119 rest of us and that divide is, is opening a sort of wider as 2776 02:42:42,119 --> 02:42:46,199 they get more and more into their global warming, feminist 2777 02:42:46,199 --> 02:42:48,389 social justice warrior fizzy drink 2778 02:42:48,390 --> 02:42:50,400 should have some sort of purge of the intellectuals like Pol 2779 02:42:50,400 --> 02:42:51,180 Pot. I 2780 02:42:51,449 --> 02:42:55,619 really think anyone who was glosses over the intelligencia 2781 02:42:55,649 --> 02:42:58,829 are the stupidest people on earth, and the most offensive 2782 02:42:58,829 --> 02:43:00,869 and they haven't been since Plato. Actually, we're gonna get 2783 02:43:00,869 --> 02:43:04,949 really historical, faster. Yes. 2784 02:43:06,990 --> 02:43:10,560 That those clips bring me right into a perfect follow up, which 2785 02:43:10,560 --> 02:43:14,730 is my little Italian debate. All right, rock and roll. Because 2786 02:43:14,730 --> 02:43:17,970 this is about we don't talk about Italy that much. And we 2787 02:43:17,970 --> 02:43:20,820 need to kind of bring people up to speed with what's going on 2788 02:43:20,820 --> 02:43:23,220 there, which is part of what's going on everywhere that we're 2789 02:43:23,220 --> 02:43:26,250 watching the populist thing and the Trump and the Brexit and the 2790 02:43:26,250 --> 02:43:31,260 rest. And let's play. This is the Italy rundown one. 2791 02:43:31,289 --> 02:43:35,399 Earlier this month, Italian voters rejected a referendum to 2792 02:43:35,399 --> 02:43:39,269 alter that nation's constitution in what was a stern rebuke of 2793 02:43:39,269 --> 02:43:43,169 Prime Minister Matteo Renzi, who resigned in the aftermath. The 2794 02:43:43,169 --> 02:43:46,619 vote was seen as the latest instance of a rising tide of 2795 02:43:46,619 --> 02:43:51,089 populism both in Europe and here against elites in the perceived 2796 02:43:51,119 --> 02:43:54,989 establishment. From Rome special correspondent Christopher lives 2797 02:43:54,989 --> 02:43:57,659 a explains it started 2798 02:43:57,660 --> 02:44:01,530 as just another protest movement. Now it could control 2799 02:44:01,530 --> 02:44:06,000 the Italian government, and many in Europe are terrified. It's 2800 02:44:06,000 --> 02:44:09,720 called the Five Star Movement of foul mouthed comedian named 2801 02:44:09,750 --> 02:44:14,130 Bebek Grilo, founded only seven years ago. Today, the Five Star 2802 02:44:14,130 --> 02:44:17,670 Movement is Italy's fastest growing party picking up votes 2803 02:44:17,670 --> 02:44:21,510 from both left and right with a populist message securing the 2804 02:44:21,510 --> 02:44:25,470 political establishment amid the punishing economic fallout of 2805 02:44:25,470 --> 02:44:31,830 the euro crisis. The government has long dismissed them as anti 2806 02:44:31,830 --> 02:44:36,780 Euro nationalists done so at their now clear and great peril. 2807 02:44:37,500 --> 02:44:41,370 This month center left Prime Minister Matteo Renzi, a staunch 2808 02:44:41,370 --> 02:44:45,330 defender of the European Union, was forced to resign when he 2809 02:44:45,330 --> 02:44:48,660 failed in a referendum on constitutional reforms that 2810 02:44:48,660 --> 02:44:51,090 would have weakened the powers of the Senate in order to 2811 02:44:51,090 --> 02:44:54,450 streamline the legislative process. Yes. 2812 02:44:55,740 --> 02:44:58,320 Yeah, what they tried to do which is what I think would 2813 02:44:58,320 --> 02:45:02,190 happen here, especially Jimmy Hillary got in, because Hillary 2814 02:45:02,190 --> 02:45:05,400 is against all borders, and she went in the but we do have 2815 02:45:05,400 --> 02:45:08,070 sovereignty and we have to, like weaken it. And the way to do 2816 02:45:08,070 --> 02:45:10,680 weaken it is to do a constitutional convention and 2817 02:45:10,710 --> 02:45:14,250 rewrite the Constitution. Yeah. And weaken it. So we have no 2818 02:45:14,250 --> 02:45:16,620 sovereignty because the idea of the globalist is that we 2819 02:45:16,650 --> 02:45:18,600 shouldn't be just one happy family, 2820 02:45:19,560 --> 02:45:23,550 countries, everybody be brown and happy. So 2821 02:45:23,550 --> 02:45:26,940 this report goes on and on. And I've cooked it up a little bit. 2822 02:45:26,970 --> 02:45:29,940 And it's worth listening to because it's, we don't talk 2823 02:45:29,940 --> 02:45:32,640 about Italy at all. And I think this will bring everyone up to 2824 02:45:32,640 --> 02:45:35,820 speed. So let's go on with part two. The Five Star 2825 02:45:35,820 --> 02:45:39,480 Movement campaigned hardest against frenzy. New elections 2826 02:45:39,480 --> 02:45:42,960 are expected early next year. And it's the Five Star Movement 2827 02:45:42,990 --> 02:45:46,530 with the wind in its sails Franco Pavone. Shambo is a 2828 02:45:46,530 --> 02:45:49,860 professor of political science and the president of John Cabot 2829 02:45:49,860 --> 02:45:51,750 University in Rome. The Five 2830 02:45:51,750 --> 02:45:56,220 Star Movement basically is a rejection is party that feels 2831 02:45:56,220 --> 02:45:59,760 that the entire political spectrum has been disqualified 2832 02:45:59,760 --> 02:46:04,890 by decades of bad management, corruption and economic decline 2833 02:46:04,890 --> 02:46:08,820 where the people are much poorer than the grandparents. And this 2834 02:46:08,820 --> 02:46:15,060 is where we see a parallel with Brexit and with the United 2835 02:46:15,060 --> 02:46:19,290 States. There is a sense of the dispossess of this 2836 02:46:19,320 --> 02:46:23,550 disenfranchise those who don't feel they don't really have a 2837 02:46:23,550 --> 02:46:24,840 voice anymore. 2838 02:46:25,410 --> 02:46:28,380 That voice is channeled in Parliament by lawmakers like 2839 02:46:28,410 --> 02:46:32,250 Manuel de Stefano, a leading figure in the movement. What 2840 02:46:32,250 --> 02:46:34,860 will a FIVE STAR moVement government look like? 2841 02:46:36,000 --> 02:46:40,260 How we will go, we are we will have the numbers. We are sure 2842 02:46:40,260 --> 02:46:43,920 when we present the next political election, people will 2843 02:46:43,920 --> 02:46:48,930 realize that is FIVE STAR moVement against the rest of the 2844 02:46:48,930 --> 02:46:49,710 establishment 2845 02:46:50,430 --> 02:46:53,430 SAYS THE FIVE STAR moVement against everyone else based I 2846 02:46:53,430 --> 02:46:58,260 think, yes, just 35 years old, de Stefano epitomizes the 2847 02:46:58,260 --> 02:47:01,800 youthful rebellion at the heart of the movement, telling his 2848 02:47:01,800 --> 02:47:04,860 parliamentary rivals, they've never worked a real job in their 2849 02:47:04,860 --> 02:47:07,530 lives. Oh me, you'll know. 2850 02:47:12,540 --> 02:47:16,020 Italians like it'll bet at the Margie, who feel increasingly 2851 02:47:16,020 --> 02:47:19,890 left behind are the core of the five star movements support. 2852 02:47:20,160 --> 02:47:23,490 Last year, the landlord shut off the single mothers heat and hot 2853 02:47:23,490 --> 02:47:27,330 water when she lost her job as a secretary and could no longer 2854 02:47:27,330 --> 02:47:31,890 afford rent. She's a pots of water on the stove, and she 2855 02:47:31,890 --> 02:47:36,360 watches her kids here in St. Louis. You see what I'm going 2856 02:47:36,360 --> 02:47:40,770 through. Sometimes I just break down. With Christmas just around 2857 02:47:40,770 --> 02:47:44,580 the corner. She faces eviction this very morning, neighbors and 2858 02:47:44,580 --> 02:47:47,640 friends have rallied to her side. Among them that will 2859 02:47:47,640 --> 02:47:51,480 better Lombardi, another member of Parliament from the Five Star 2860 02:47:51,480 --> 02:47:52,020 Movement. 2861 02:47:53,250 --> 02:47:57,030 We are here to try to stop this image. 2862 02:47:58,230 --> 02:48:02,640 And stop it she did at least for now. The court officials laughed 2863 02:48:02,640 --> 02:48:05,760 when they saw the crowd. Hey, who did 2864 02:48:05,760 --> 02:48:06,930 this report? Where was it from? 2865 02:48:07,439 --> 02:48:11,639 This was done by an independent reporter that is part of PBS. So 2866 02:48:11,639 --> 02:48:14,819 it was on news hour. Okay, it took up a good part of the show, 2867 02:48:14,819 --> 02:48:18,329 as you can tell by the number. But I thought it was so I 2868 02:48:18,329 --> 02:48:22,289 thought it was very dense. And it gets you right up to speed. 2869 02:48:22,289 --> 02:48:24,389 And now I don't think we need to talk about Italy for another 2870 02:48:24,389 --> 02:48:28,799 year. Easily. But if you want to keep playing these 2871 02:48:30,480 --> 02:48:34,530 three, okay. stunts like these have made the Five Star Movement 2872 02:48:34,530 --> 02:48:38,850 vulnerable to charges of populism, a charge they relish. 2873 02:48:39,210 --> 02:48:43,890 So a lot of people say to us, this, this this thing that you 2874 02:48:43,890 --> 02:48:49,200 do make makes you a populist. And we say okay, if you consider 2875 02:48:49,230 --> 02:48:52,410 to be populist, just taking care of people, we are proud to be 2876 02:48:52,410 --> 02:48:58,110 populist. But the truth is that everybody in this building in 2877 02:48:58,110 --> 02:49:02,160 the parliament should be a little bit populist meaning that 2878 02:49:02,160 --> 02:49:06,390 should consider the people needs otherwise you're doing your own 2879 02:49:06,390 --> 02:49:07,050 interests. 2880 02:49:07,770 --> 02:49:11,550 populism is thriving across Europe as economies in the 2881 02:49:11,550 --> 02:49:15,000 Common Market struggle and immigration booms. 2882 02:49:15,660 --> 02:49:20,790 Alright, do you have a kind of like a summary coming? 2883 02:49:21,900 --> 02:49:23,700 You can play the last clip if you want, which 2884 02:49:24,539 --> 02:49:29,699 the only reason I ask is 10 minutes to go so these clips are 2885 02:49:29,699 --> 02:49:30,749 pretty short. I'm getting the 2886 02:49:31,230 --> 02:49:34,890 I gotta kick out a deck that because the the word whether the 2887 02:49:34,890 --> 02:49:37,260 word populism becomes such a bad word. 2888 02:49:37,470 --> 02:49:41,460 Yeah. Well, ever since the rise of LePen in France, I think was 2889 02:49:41,460 --> 02:49:45,210 when it started. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Well, I'll leave the rest 2890 02:49:45,210 --> 02:49:46,800 of the short so let's go to four I'm 2891 02:49:46,800 --> 02:49:50,490 interested in well less extreme than other European populists. 2892 02:49:50,610 --> 02:49:54,210 Five Star Movement leaders insist migrants denied asylum 2893 02:49:54,240 --> 02:49:57,900 should be immediately deported. And they've been accused of 2894 02:49:57,900 --> 02:50:01,710 circulating fake news about migrants to incite their 2895 02:50:01,710 --> 02:50:05,820 followers. I tell you, the Sunni CTO is a senior editor at UNSA, 2896 02:50:05,850 --> 02:50:10,410 Italy's leading news agency, he says Fake news is exploding 2897 02:50:10,440 --> 02:50:11,370 across Europe. 2898 02:50:12,300 --> 02:50:16,350 He's such a danger that, you know, figures like Pope Francis 2899 02:50:16,380 --> 02:50:21,540 warned the press, not to spread. You know what he actually made a 2900 02:50:21,540 --> 02:50:26,130 very strong parallel between a thesis and this kind of news. 2901 02:50:26,700 --> 02:50:27,210 The CTO 2902 02:50:27,210 --> 02:50:30,150 points to one fake news story, accusing the government of 2903 02:50:30,150 --> 02:50:31,980 stuffing ballot boxes now, 2904 02:50:32,010 --> 02:50:36,480 this is a completely bogus story and has no reality about it. But 2905 02:50:36,480 --> 02:50:40,020 the reaction on the social network was very impressive. 2906 02:50:40,140 --> 02:50:45,180 Over 230,000 people reacted to this story on the social 2907 02:50:45,180 --> 02:50:48,720 network. Yeah, of course. Yeah, 2908 02:50:49,200 --> 02:50:50,340 it's a believable story. 2909 02:50:50,670 --> 02:50:53,130 Fake. It's all fake news, man. It's fake news. 2910 02:50:54,210 --> 02:50:58,320 Yeah, let's wrap this thing up. All right. It's one five is 2911 02:50:58,320 --> 02:50:58,650 good. 2912 02:50:59,400 --> 02:51:02,700 Rula Gibreel is an international affairs analyst. 2913 02:51:03,269 --> 02:51:07,079 Oh, Russia is the real winner of all of this. I mean, they kill 2914 02:51:07,079 --> 02:51:10,379 the news itself by creating by flooding the market with fake 2915 02:51:10,379 --> 02:51:14,819 news, Russians globally. We had a presidential candidate 2916 02:51:14,819 --> 02:51:18,599 president elect who told the Russians Yes, please hack the 2917 02:51:18,599 --> 02:51:23,039 National Democratic National Committee, and we're going to 2918 02:51:23,039 --> 02:51:26,849 release the email inviting them actual to the party. We had 2919 02:51:27,599 --> 02:51:31,289 Marine LePen, Madame LePen in France, who asked the Russians 2920 02:51:31,619 --> 02:51:36,059 to give her $7 million. So she could run a campaign. And then 2921 02:51:36,059 --> 02:51:39,719 your five stars here are selecting this kind of news. 2922 02:51:39,749 --> 02:51:43,019 It's a national security threat, what we're saying, 2923 02:51:43,560 --> 02:51:46,860 Wow, man, that's a bunch of hog hooey. 2924 02:51:47,760 --> 02:51:51,090 This is this was I thought was they they did a really good 2925 02:51:51,090 --> 02:51:55,560 report by bringing her in again. Trump, of course we had that 2926 02:51:55,560 --> 02:51:55,980 clip. 2927 02:51:56,160 --> 02:51:59,070 It was no but she took it one step further, saying Trump asked 2928 02:51:59,070 --> 02:52:00,600 him to hack the DNC, 2929 02:52:01,170 --> 02:52:03,750 which was not what he did at all. Oh, that's great. 2930 02:52:03,810 --> 02:52:05,400 Yeah, fake news. Okay. 2931 02:52:05,790 --> 02:52:06,600 We'll wrap it up. The 2932 02:52:06,600 --> 02:52:10,680 Five Star Movement denies it has a pro Russian agenda, but some 2933 02:52:10,680 --> 02:52:14,760 of their policy proposals would benefit Russia, such as pushing 2934 02:52:14,760 --> 02:52:18,840 for Italy to leave NATO and for the EU to end sanctions on 2935 02:52:18,840 --> 02:52:22,020 Russia for annexing Crimea in 2014. 2936 02:52:22,260 --> 02:52:24,000 We want to cut this sanction. 2937 02:52:24,570 --> 02:52:28,110 Do you want to cut European Union sanctions against Russia, 2938 02:52:28,380 --> 02:52:32,070 the only one that are losing money or the European people, 2939 02:52:32,160 --> 02:52:35,370 they did something that was just a demonstration of power, you 2940 02:52:35,370 --> 02:52:37,980 were up against Russia, and Russia is winning? 2941 02:52:38,700 --> 02:52:42,480 Indeed, it's the five star movements Euro skepticism that's 2942 02:52:42,510 --> 02:52:46,440 shaken investors and much of Europe. If elected, they've 2943 02:52:46,440 --> 02:52:50,580 promised to hold a referendum on abandoning the euro currency as 2944 02:52:50,580 --> 02:52:54,720 the euro zone's third largest economy. Italy's exit could be 2945 02:52:54,750 --> 02:52:55,950 disastrous 2946 02:52:56,340 --> 02:53:00,780 for everybody, including Italy. Yeah, my goodness. Oh, my 2947 02:53:00,780 --> 02:53:04,110 goodness. Well, that's what's going on. I just want to stay in 2948 02:53:04,110 --> 02:53:06,750 the euro land for a minute. I'm going to wrap up the show here. 2949 02:53:07,320 --> 02:53:09,960 I did want to bring this clip out. It was in European 2950 02:53:09,960 --> 02:53:14,100 Parliament for once it wasn't Nigel Farage, making noise. It 2951 02:53:14,100 --> 02:53:18,330 was Dutch politician Marcel De Graaff, who went off on Scholtz 2952 02:53:18,330 --> 02:53:22,950 and the other bureaucrat Kratz about the migrants. And well, 2953 02:53:22,980 --> 02:53:26,400 it's very interesting to listen. He's going to say what he has to 2954 02:53:26,400 --> 02:53:31,440 say. And he's very clear and angry. And then the responses 2955 02:53:31,440 --> 02:53:36,030 are perhaps even crazier, for Kobe question. Last year, and by 2956 02:53:36,030 --> 02:53:38,580 the way, I love that it's, you're not really hearing the 2957 02:53:38,580 --> 02:53:42,510 real people you're hearing translators arguing against each 2958 02:53:42,510 --> 02:53:45,180 other because they're translating what the politicians 2959 02:53:45,180 --> 02:53:50,010 are arguing about, it creates a very strange radio play for 2960 02:53:51,240 --> 02:53:58,500 last year, an illegal Afghan was detained for rape and murder, a 2961 02:53:58,500 --> 02:54:02,400 19 year old girl who was in the prime of her life. She was 2962 02:54:02,400 --> 02:54:06,330 working actively for the reception of migrants and she 2963 02:54:06,330 --> 02:54:08,700 was the daughter of an EU official. It could have been 2964 02:54:08,700 --> 02:54:12,180 your daughter, she could have been my daughter, politicians 2965 02:54:12,180 --> 02:54:15,870 and the media talks about this as an incident. But in Germany, 2966 02:54:15,870 --> 02:54:19,800 there have been many rapes, thefts, perpetration of 2967 02:54:19,800 --> 02:54:23,880 violence, and all of them, many of them by illegal immigrants. 2968 02:54:24,360 --> 02:54:26,580 This commission is refusing to recognize it. There's a 2969 02:54:26,580 --> 02:54:29,340 structural problem here, there are 10s of 1000s, hundreds of 2970 02:54:29,340 --> 02:54:32,850 1000s of incidents such as this, but you were never actually 2971 02:54:32,850 --> 02:54:36,210 prepared to concede that this is a structural problem. These 2972 02:54:36,210 --> 02:54:40,230 illegal immigrants are convinced that they have a right to come 2973 02:54:40,230 --> 02:54:43,950 to our countries and if they so wish to rape our women and our 2974 02:54:43,950 --> 02:54:46,860 children, yes, our children because women and children, even 2975 02:54:47,100 --> 02:54:50,670 at the age of five or 10 have been murdered, they have been 2976 02:54:50,670 --> 02:54:54,930 raped. And you are refusing to recognize that you are in part 2977 02:54:54,930 --> 02:54:57,510 responsible for allowing this to happen, because you won't 2978 02:54:57,510 --> 02:54:59,970 recognize that we need a structural solution to migrate 2979 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:03,120 Shouldn't in our countries and our cities, nothing has been 2980 02:55:03,120 --> 02:55:06,330 done to stop these illegal immigrants. You're working with 2981 02:55:06,330 --> 02:55:09,720 a dictator in Turkey. You're working effectively with people 2982 02:55:09,720 --> 02:55:13,230 who represent al Qaeda and Al Nusra, the murderers and humps 2983 02:55:13,230 --> 02:55:18,270 in Mosul. And way beyond that, you are largely responsible. And 2984 02:55:18,270 --> 02:55:21,480 this is the message which will come out of the Council. This 2985 02:55:21,480 --> 02:55:24,960 week. It's high time we had proper borders. We sent illegal 2986 02:55:24,960 --> 02:55:27,570 migrants back, we stopped at Islamization of Europe, and we 2987 02:55:27,570 --> 02:55:29,820 stopped negotiations with Turkish which should never have 2988 02:55:29,820 --> 02:55:32,190 been started. Thank you. Okay, so 2989 02:55:32,490 --> 02:55:36,720 he says, Okay. Well, women and children getting raped and 2990 02:55:36,720 --> 02:55:39,990 murdered, and we need to stop this. This is out of control. We 2991 02:55:39,990 --> 02:55:42,870 need borders. You're working with a with a dictator in 2992 02:55:42,870 --> 02:55:47,040 Turkey, and you're insane. What are you doing? Obviously, this 2993 02:55:47,040 --> 02:55:48,000 did not go over well. 2994 02:55:50,010 --> 02:55:54,630 Mr. Mr. Huff, I just have a request for you to say that 2995 02:55:54,660 --> 02:55:58,410 migrants or refugees are systematically carrying out 2996 02:55:58,410 --> 02:56:02,220 rapes. Well, I think after what we heard yesterday from two 2997 02:56:02,220 --> 02:56:06,870 migrants who were systematically raped that I think it's a shame 2998 02:56:06,870 --> 02:56:10,200 and a Scandal. Scandal you bring shame upon the European 2999 02:56:10,200 --> 02:56:11,400 Parliament for what you said. 3000 02:56:11,429 --> 02:56:15,059 Oh my god, Shame shame on the European Parliament. This is 3001 02:56:15,060 --> 02:56:17,730 documents you have a question. Oh, check her out. We needed to 3002 02:56:17,730 --> 02:56:18,480 hear if 3003 02:56:20,400 --> 02:56:24,180 your statements are absolutely intolerable. They have no place 3004 02:56:24,180 --> 02:56:28,500 in this house. Europe stands up for the rights of women for the 3005 02:56:28,500 --> 02:56:32,460 rights of every citizen your statements are nothing short of 3006 02:56:32,460 --> 02:56:35,190 racism pure racism, you're treating all the migrants as if 3007 02:56:35,190 --> 02:56:38,460 they're one and the same. You're talking about people murdering 3008 02:56:38,490 --> 02:56:42,180 and raping women and children that says absolutely sickening 3009 02:56:42,180 --> 02:56:46,410 speech and present I'd ask for this to be deleted from the 3010 02:56:46,410 --> 02:56:50,040 minutes this is absolutely not worthy of the European style of 3011 02:56:50,040 --> 02:56:54,930 this type of speech. Shut up Shut up stricken 3012 02:56:54,930 --> 02:56:58,200 from the record John. Take it out of the record we can't have 3013 02:56:58,200 --> 02:56:59,550 that speech on record. 3014 02:57:00,720 --> 02:57:03,750 Wow, is this like a trial that they strike it from the record? 3015 02:57:03,840 --> 02:57:08,220 I've never heard this that they can do that. Record Yeah. 3016 02:57:09,900 --> 02:57:13,560 And then that's just the way that this is like the Federation 3017 02:57:13,560 --> 02:57:16,860 of Planets meeting or wherever that the council Yeah, it's just 3018 02:57:16,860 --> 02:57:19,710 a bunch of this is crazy. Crazy. 3019 02:57:20,580 --> 02:57:24,600 And then finally, I got a lot of response about the about the 3020 02:57:24,600 --> 02:57:27,990 eggs on everything here in the United States of Gitmo nation. 3021 02:57:28,800 --> 02:57:32,130 Okay, what an eggs on everything and I got well I got two things 3022 02:57:32,130 --> 02:57:37,020 in well I got a possible answer eggs apparently are at an all 3023 02:57:37,020 --> 02:57:41,250 time crazy low. nine cents it doesn't. 3024 02:57:41,730 --> 02:57:46,200 Oh yeah, but those are crappy eggs. Okay, the pale yellow yolk 3025 02:57:46,380 --> 02:57:47,640 with no flavor but in 3026 02:57:47,640 --> 02:57:51,810 general I think eggs are cheap I don't know why I'm see I am 3027 02:57:51,810 --> 02:57:57,540 seeing US Bureau of Labor Statistics saying eggs are down 3028 02:57:57,540 --> 02:58:01,980 $1.46 on average per dozen. So maybe it's just cheap. 3029 02:58:03,300 --> 02:58:08,760 That doesn't sound like the right maybe I mean I don't know 3030 02:58:08,760 --> 02:58:10,680 if we didn't think that there were achieved it'd be more 3031 02:58:10,680 --> 02:58:12,510 people making deviled eggs or something. 3032 02:58:12,540 --> 02:58:16,980 Well, the fix makes deviled eggs. But then I got this note 3033 02:58:16,980 --> 02:58:20,820 from Sir Hank Scorpio of the electrical grid. On the last 3034 02:58:20,820 --> 02:58:23,130 show you were wrapping up you discuss the eggs on food 3035 02:58:23,130 --> 02:58:26,430 phenomenon when I heard this I laughed hysterically My daughter 3036 02:58:26,430 --> 02:58:31,050 has a toy oven that talks and make sound effects. There are 3037 02:58:31,050 --> 02:58:52,680 multiple sequences when it plays this you want Yeah, put an egg 3038 02:58:53,100 --> 02:58:53,430 to the 3039 02:58:53,970 --> 02:58:57,750 pizza. Wow. That is the guy I'm giving you a clip of the day 3040 02:58:57,750 --> 02:58:59,100 forgetting that guy. 3041 02:59:00,510 --> 02:59:01,290 Clinically 3042 02:59:02,220 --> 02:59:08,940 and there's one little show one little ISO ISO amazing. You 3043 02:59:08,940 --> 02:59:10,500 don't have anything. 3044 02:59:12,420 --> 02:59:15,480 We got to get a better copy of that except for the one that 3045 02:59:15,480 --> 02:59:18,030 came out of the oven. But there's got to be some original. 3046 02:59:18,300 --> 02:59:20,370 Yeah, we need to we need the full song. Yeah, we need a good 3047 02:59:20,370 --> 02:59:26,040 recording. I think redo the song he has held held his iPhone up 3048 02:59:26,040 --> 02:59:31,740 to it but it really tastes amazing on top of anything stays 3049 02:59:31,740 --> 02:59:32,220 the way amazing. 3050 02:59:34,410 --> 02:59:39,330 An eight year olds toy that cost this trend and booty dumb. 3051 02:59:39,480 --> 02:59:41,820 I don't know what's going on, but it's frightening me. 3052 02:59:44,160 --> 02:59:46,920 Oh my goodness. What are we going to do? 3053 02:59:49,080 --> 02:59:50,670 David the best for last? Yes. 3054 02:59:50,700 --> 02:59:54,000 Always. Always, always always. Alright everybody, thank you so 3055 02:59:54,000 --> 02:59:57,540 much. Please support us on the next show. dvorak.org/na We do 3056 02:59:57,540 --> 03:00:01,560 need your help. Show eight eight. ate the big triple eight. 3057 03:00:01,560 --> 03:00:10,410 luckiness lucky lucky lucky luckiness Um, all right. Okay, 3058 03:00:10,830 --> 03:00:12,630 what do you got going on? John? I think we should watch 3059 03:00:12,630 --> 03:00:14,640 anything. We're doing anything special? 3060 03:00:15,120 --> 03:00:15,540 No. 3061 03:00:16,260 --> 03:00:19,560 There's just a bunch of goodness somebody mediocre bowl games 3062 03:00:19,560 --> 03:00:22,860 that are going on. They're kind of entertaining. But bowl bowl 3063 03:00:22,860 --> 03:00:25,590 games and it's nothing but there's some because of the 3064 03:00:25,590 --> 03:00:28,620 snowstorm. There's been some really funny games to look at on 3065 03:00:28,620 --> 03:00:31,770 the TV because it's like they're playing football and to fetus. 3066 03:00:31,770 --> 03:00:32,850 No, it's fantastic. 3067 03:00:32,880 --> 03:00:39,720 Oh, nice. That is good to watch. Well, for sure, everybody. We 3068 03:00:39,720 --> 03:00:43,650 will be back and that will be after the Electoral College has 3069 03:00:43,650 --> 03:00:48,240 voted. So who knows? What we'll have here in Gitmo nation till 3070 03:00:48,240 --> 03:00:50,430 then coming to you from the crackpot condo downtown Austin 3071 03:00:50,430 --> 03:00:52,080 The Morning everybody. I'm Adam curry. 3072 03:00:52,830 --> 03:00:56,880 And from Northern Silicon Valley where Plato say a woman who play 3073 03:00:56,880 --> 03:01:02,550 strip poker with Top Gun pilots always has an ace in the hole. 3074 03:01:02,730 --> 03:01:04,050 I'm John C. Dvorak. 3075 03:01:04,350 --> 03:01:09,090 We'll be back on Thursday right here on no agenda audio 3076 03:01:09,090 --> 03:01:10,290 smartphones so 3077 03:01:12,720 --> 03:01:19,110 they give us shirts we get her we donate to and no agenda is 3078 03:01:19,110 --> 03:01:25,440 the show that's really you the Donate to no agenda. This John 3079 03:01:25,440 --> 03:01:31,290 Adams speak that own a two with no agenda. Science is turning 3080 03:01:31,290 --> 03:01:35,910 into Klieg. Wish you many 3081 03:01:36,090 --> 03:01:41,250 enters and information system and all cures it remotely so 3082 03:01:41,250 --> 03:01:46,290 that the operator of the system doesn't know that was saying not 3083 03:01:46,290 --> 03:01:54,210 to say you go to delicate things you wish you many employees have 3084 03:01:54,210 --> 03:02:00,210 Kremlin backed hackers. That is what did not happen. Called 3085 03:02:00,210 --> 03:02:03,900 vulnerability scare people hateful stuff during the 3086 03:02:03,900 --> 03:02:12,300 intransigence. exercise that power who have never ever built 3087 03:02:12,300 --> 03:02:14,130 sticks wall after a massive myth nope 3088 03:02:14,130 --> 03:02:16,380 intransigence in sharing intelligence with the food to 3089 03:02:16,380 --> 03:02:17,880 undermine and rancor attack 3090 03:02:17,880 --> 03:02:20,640 triggered an internal investigation of the election 3091 03:02:20,640 --> 03:02:20,970 was 3092 03:02:21,120 --> 03:02:25,050 leveled has basically matched I wish 3093 03:02:25,050 --> 03:02:26,010 you many employees 3094 03:02:27,270 --> 03:02:28,140 Congress to list 3095 03:02:28,260 --> 03:02:31,320 antigens entering key talking points and Russian pop 3096 03:02:31,320 --> 03:02:34,230 States certainly was leaked concerning for 3097 03:02:34,920 --> 03:02:37,920 this whole intelligence has been tabled the manipulation of a 3098 03:02:37,920 --> 03:02:39,660 nation of people in the NSA. 3099 03:02:42,270 --> 03:02:44,550 Social media is deeply concerned 3100 03:02:44,550 --> 03:02:48,780 that it trendy with the manipulation of nature. Popular 3101 03:02:48,780 --> 03:02:52,230 before and today for me and the immediacy and how things can 3102 03:02:52,230 --> 03:02:55,110 change at a moment's notice is sharing intelligence with 3103 03:02:55,110 --> 03:02:56,640 congressmen that intransigent 3104 03:02:58,710 --> 03:03:01,560 I think what we have are ignoramus social media and the 3105 03:03:01,560 --> 03:03:03,240 immediacy of how things can change 3106 03:03:04,050 --> 03:03:07,230 from perfect so the manipulation of intelligence for posing one 3107 03:03:07,230 --> 03:03:12,090 of the countries may who is working exactly as that guy got 3108 03:03:13,110 --> 03:03:17,640 too many employees. I wish you many of you many empty NASA 3109 03:03:17,640 --> 03:03:29,850 contractor. Amen. President a significant impact significant 3110 03:03:29,850 --> 03:03:47,760 impact dude named Ben OPM, what is significant impact dude named 3111 03:03:47,760 --> 03:04:00,630 Ben OPM, and the fact that they were able to significantly dude 3112 03:04:00,630 --> 03:04:01,200 named Ben 3113 03:04:08,070 --> 03:04:11,040 Do you think we can all agree that 2016 has been a momentous 3114 03:04:11,070 --> 03:04:15,750 indeed, historic year? It's Christmas. Let's think of those 3115 03:04:15,750 --> 03:04:19,200 events in terms of the Three Wise Men sharing their gifts. 3116 03:04:20,760 --> 03:04:25,200 First, we have Brexit, deliverance. Then we have the 3117 03:04:25,200 --> 03:04:30,690 Trump trial. Then thirdly, of course, the Italian rebellion. 3118 03:04:31,890 --> 03:04:36,690 That in this case, the gifts were all the same democracy and 3119 03:04:36,690 --> 03:04:43,500 the rebirth of the nation state. What do you think you better 3120 03:04:43,500 --> 03:04:46,710 listen? Because I know in the past, you've managed to ignore 3121 03:04:47,100 --> 03:04:52,140 Danish, Dutch, Irish and French referendums. But this time, it 3122 03:04:52,230 --> 03:04:57,480 is for real. A democratic revolution has begun. factcheck 3123 03:04:57,480 --> 03:04:57,840 false 3124 03:05:02,580 --> 03:05:03,300 audios 3125 03:05:03,330 --> 03:05:11,820 mopho.org/n A