Hey Brad, this is terrible. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak
is Sunday, January
1 2017. This is your award winning give on nation media
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or one this is no agenda.
The only broadcaster so we work on holidays and broadcasting
live from the darkest corners on the internet here in Austin Tay
hostinger region six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where Plato say, no more Plato
and 2017. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Really? Yeah, that's how we started off. Yeah, no more Plato
in 2017. No, no, I'm so sorry.
By a WWE the PLATO book to no agenda. Plato says book. Well,
it's interesting.
You bring that up, because I thought even though we don't
really do New Year's resolutions, I think this will
be the year 2017. I finally get my podcast device out. Oh,
fantastic. Yes. And you will get your cycles book out and the
vinegar book and the playdough book. Yep.
Well, those books are giblet. So they're not going to be real
hard to do well not to cycle through the cycles book before
June. So that's like in a rush mode.
You really got to do that one. That's the one I think is most
it's the cycles up. Yeah, you kind of want to do that before
the cycle gets here. Yeah,
otherwise, I look like an idiot. Although I've been talking about
it for years. I looked like an idiot anyway.
So what can I get done? What'd you do last night? Am
I going to do right Hillary? What am I going to do?
What were you alone last night and when did you have family or
what was going on? What do you do for the news? It's show prep.
Yes. Okay. I did the same. Yeah.
And I worked till midnight watch the fireworks display and went
to bed. I have to go to bed early because they gotta show me
to know the show is takes precedence. So we don't have any
fun.
Now Tina, I went out for dinner. And you're Austin is strange. I
don't understand that. On July 4. You do the fireworks at 10
o'clock. It's okay. Fine. For kids, I guess. But New Year's
Eve. You do the fireworks at 10 o'clock? I don't understand. No.
That makes no sense. They did.
Yes. Oh, we are fireworks yard midnight. Like you're supposed
to be that's
what it shouldn't be. I know this is tip. Are
you kidding me? Are you telling me that in Austin, Texas? Yeah.
Fireworks were at 10 o'clock. I'm
sure that there was a committee meeting. Oh, the children have
to sleep. Whereas that was kind of the point of
I'll find out I think at 10 o'clock fireworks or micro
aggression.
Let me see 10pm for I didn't actually look it up. I'm just
wondering if there's anything about that. I'm sure that it's
all the children but again that was that was kind of the here it
is free family friendly celebration in downtown Austin.
There it is. My goodness. Let me see what they morons. Boston's
New Year will transform okay, but Baba
and dementia Jumba 10 o'clock is not New Year's.
No, of course it's not New Year's. But they're doing it for
the kids. wasn't the kind of children or the children wasn't
that kind of the fun part of New Year's
you know to stay up late
Yeah, that you get to stay up until midnight. Fun champagne
champagne toast. Yeah, exactly. Is you'll get a little bit yeah,
you'll
get a little buzz.
Bustos parents Yeah,
not not anymore, man. That anymore. Nope, nope, nope.
However, of course, we did have an opportunity to watch some
very funny television. A number of great things going on as I
did that for show prep. Oh, good. Yeah, first, I did none
of that. I didn't zip. Okay, your shows?
Sorry. Well, they're always gonna be drunk. Well, there was
one in particular you
know, I got the sense that this segment always kind of leads to
the conclusion of drunk Yes. The jingles a giveaway?
Yeah. So I watched two different programs switching back and
forth. I always have to watch Kathy Griffin with Anderson
Cooper. I find her to be usually quite answered drunk. Yeah,
drunk. Yeah. i She was good this year. In previous years. She's
really yells and and just a little too much, but she was
pretty funny. Then I watched Of course, Dick Clark's New Year's
Rockin Eve with Ryan Seacrest, man, you gotta that's pretty
cool. If you had been dead for 10 years and your name is still
on the on the show.
I know somebody who works with Ryan sequined crest. Yeah.
Apparently the guy is like, he's just on the ball for like 18
hours a day goes from meeting to meeting with like a handler who
just got to stop up watch. Then he goes out to the next meeting
and bang bang bang. This guy is the next deck Clark.
Oh, he is Yeah, no doubt. So I want to talk about that in a
moment. But
the CNN show that they were tossing all over the place, and
Brooke got to Don Lemon on. Who later in the evening had his ear
pierced live on TV, which is hello 1987 Boy, that was a big
deal then. Now Oh, he got into fears he was hammered. Listen to
this.
I always live my life to the very fullest and yes, you do.
The thing is I need a little bit more balance in work life. I may
be open to a relationship this year. I wasn't before. Breaking
news.
Don Lemon is open to a relationship
being available to be in a really bad I'm a bad person
today. I'm not selfish. I'll give you my cell center. Yeah,
I'm not gonna be as self centered.
They're gonna be less self centered.
But I don't really do resolutions and I live my life
to the fullest. I don't care what people think about me. I do
what I want. Because it's my life.
Craft God, I'd fire him immediately quoting Shirley
Bassey on New Year's Eve, everybody.
Oh, man. I'm too self centered. You think?
Overnight legend Don Lemon everybody. Bunky Moon celebrated
New Year's by becoming a stand up comedian. Monkey meet of
course Secretary General of the United Nations. This is his last
lie last night was his last day in office. As we have a new
Secretary General incoming and he stood there with the crowd
and just crack jokes.
The United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki Moon is spending
his last full day in the office before standing down. Well, this
was the same building in New York as he said goodbye to his
staff. He will be replaced on the first of January by Antonio
Guterres, he was the former prime minister of Portugal there
Mr. Ban was in a rather cheerful mood as he made these farewell
remarks.
Now I feel a bit like a Cinderella everything changes
I'd have to do all my own. Tomorrow night. On the eve of
New Year, RV in times of sperm for the porn trap. Do your porn
drum videos of people will be watching as I lose my job
man, now
he's gonna show he's going to show what he said what I don't
understand he's going to the sperm bank. Yes, the
sperm bank, the ball drop by drop to render IRA. Finally, the
guy's doing some funny as he's leaving.
I think he was doing something funny all the time. The whole
time.
He's highly regarded, though. Until you for some reason. Big
to do at Mar a Lago in Florida. The President Elect stopped
briefly to talk to the press. Tell everybody what he thought
of the Russian hacking and you know, Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's
not messing around. Well,
I just want them to be sure. Because it's a pretty serious
charge. And I want them to be here. And have you look at the
weapons of mass destruction. That was a disaster. And they
were wrong. And so I want them to be sure. I think it's unfair,
if they don't know. And I know a lot about hacking. And hacking
is a very
he knows a lot about hacking man. He knows a lot about it.
But you think he's just a builder?
I don't know. And I know a lot about hacking. And hacking is a
very hard thing to do. So it could be somebody else?
Yeah. Would it be cool if he just popped out a laptop brought
up a command line? So let me show you let me trace route over
here. I'll show you exactly what's going on. Now that would
be a good thing
to prove. So it could be somebody else. And I also know
things that other people don't know. And so they can not be
sure of the situation. You know that other people don't know
you'll find out on Tuesday or Wednesday. Make America Great
Again. Okay,
so how about that he's got info, and we'll hear about it.
We might identified this issue before when when I played that
clip of him from some time back. He had obviously had access to
the 28 missing pages of the 911 report.
Yeah, yes, he lets that out. Yeah, exactly.
So he actually may have some you know, some and he's got Flynn
working for him. Flynn knows what's going on. Yeah. I slammed
him I was watching the wrap up the news wraps and all these
stations
was good for you before you go there. Thank you for the
newsletter. Thank you for just stating it exactly how it is.
But bull crap celebrity culture in the world.
That was that on the show a couple of times. Yeah. But
you wrote it was a good newsletter it was and before we
get into the Trump's, I need to mention one more thing. I think
we saw a tipping point as it comes to celebrity worship and
culture. The number one thing that was tweeted, was Mariah
Carey's debacle on the Ryan Seacrest show. Did you hear
about it? Did you see it? Cuz I know you went to bed. No, no,
no. And no, this is great. So it took a quarter to midnight. And
you know, I'm always looking at how the shows are produced
because I've done New Year's Eve shows on Time Square. I friend
of mine was in the truck. He was line producer for the for the
Ryan Seacrest show that he was actually putting stuff on
Facebook and you know, pictures and then all of a sudden he's
like, it wasn't my fault. So what happened? She walks out and
I know exactly what happened. Whatever you read bull crap.
This is what happened. She walks out and Aiden Ryan Carrie, you
have to understand she has this Mariah is world she has a
reality show on E which by chance Tina and I happened to
catch on Friday. We caught like 15 minutes of an episode minute
fans? No, absolutely not. And it is it is a bit she lives in her
own. And I know this universe. I know this world. And it's all
women and they all have to be single and they can't cry when
something goes wrong. And you know, it's just she is she has
he's oblivious to anything outside of her own bubble. Like
really anything. And she's extremely annoying. Which she
wasn't always but she's had an interesting career and tough
light and I will put above everything else. She's very
talented. But she's gotten into this thing, which and she's
starting a world tour. And this was supposed to be the kickoff
15 minutes before midnight. She's gonna do three songs can
you get ever get just before the ball drops? And I saw it the
minute that started, they started Auld Lang zine, her
version, and I saw her react late. So when I got lip sync,
okay, lip sync, good. And it was great. It was okay, that's good.
Then she goes into the second song. And it's the wrong track.
It is the track that she uses in concert to sing or you know,
when you're singing live for attract date is what we call it.
So it doesn't have her vocals. It only has interestingly enough
some of her flaws your let is in there, the
that stuff? I can't do it.
And so and so she notices that there's no vocals, and of course
your mouth is opening and nothing comes out because
there's no vocals on it. And then she just she freezes. And
her mic in her mic is put open now. So she's talking to the
crowd. She's like, Oh, well, okay. Hey, sound guy. That's you
talking crap. Oh, I'll just let the audience sing. Meanwhile,
this thing is just going on the background. It's only the
background vocals. And then her flagellate, which is really,
really, you know, shows you that that is meant to be on the tape,
even when she's singing live. Then the dancers are like, Oh,
they're trying to get back into the choreography. And they they
pick her up. And they try to do some of this dumb choreography.
And meanwhile, she's basically wearing nothing like a horror.
It's just crazy. And so the whole diva thing falls apart and
she winds up walking offstage. And it's ignored, ignored
throughout the rest of the broadcast that rightfully so.
But of course, social media, nobody even said wow, no, no,
no, of course no. Social media exploded. Oh, the last person to
die in 2016 and Mariah Carey die. Her career died right on
the stage. Yeah. And it was in a way it was a tipping point
because then they of course, they go to the pre tapes. And
ABC was going to lie on El Ricci in Vegas, who was onstage at a
concert completely lip synching that was really egregious. And I
do want to say to the 1000s of people, it's not lip singing.
It's lip synching.
Oh, that's a new one. So somehow that got out of control
lip singing really? Okay. So I hope although it's made
just a whole lot of say he gave us a premise and you're not
concluding.
I'm okay. I was going to but go ahead. Ask me a question.
What happened? Well, nothing
happened except that everyone. Social media exploded. And
Mariah Carey, you know, her career's over she's dead never
can never do anything again. At the end, in a way it was kind of
like, oh, we just discovered, strangely enough that all these
shows are fake. Da. Tom hoping that people see that everything
is fake.
I know. What am I thinking?
You think it was a screw job? I want somebody in the engineering
department that got chewed out earlier.
No, I think it was her. No, I think it was her multitude of
little minions who I've seen on her show running around who were
just idiots. But the kisser as they kiss her ass, I was good.
The funniest response was, you know, Mariah Carey blames Putin,
of course, for hacking her audio tape. I thought that was the
probably the best. That's a good one, the best tweet that I saw.
So that was New Year's Eve. Sad, sad state of affair. Very, very
sad.
But I didn't watch any of that crap.
Oh, no, you can rely on me to do that.
Yeah, well, I'm glad that you did. Somebody watched it. And
besides that, especially the feeds is new. Yeah, they already
played this is like a rerun. Anyway. I'm surprised you didn't
cut it out of the.
I wonder if they might have cut it out of the West Coast feed?
I'd like I haven't checked that yet. But that was that's what I
think is the timing
issue. If they do, I don't think they can really cut it out. It's
too much work. Yes. I mean, you cut that out. You got to what do
you got 14? Plates, board ads?
There was a lot of that.
I'm sure that I will say one thing. I watched a couple of
these football games. Uh huh. Just the beginnings, and then I
spared watching it I gave up. But I have to say I admired the
Washington, Alabama game. For the national anthem. They
brought out two giant college bands, both of them, put him on
the field and let them play the national anthem. Oh, we didn't
have some crazy singer out there. Go, you know, hamming it
up.
Oh, that's just fun. Yeah, that's different. Oh, that's,
that's what I was saying. When I saw that. I said, That's what
everyone should do. Yeah.
Yeah, well, maybe we're finally entering the era of celebrities
don't matter quite that much anymore. Since they can't
actually do anything. They couldn't get Hillary elected.
They're not going to stop the Trump inauguration with their
bogus live concert.
That it was just totally disrespectful. I think it's
gonna hurt them more if they actually do that. If they do
that concert, they're through.
Yeah, I agree. I agree.
I mean, I think at some point, some smart guy will say, hey,
you know, maybe we shouldn't be doing this. Just let's let's
back off.
Maybe just coincidental but it was actually the national
anthem. That was Mariah Carey's previous disaster. Remember that
the after 911 2001 No, I don't think I have to stand for that.
We liked it. Okay, I should have pre produced it. Forget about
it. She's a disaster. Yeah, I think it's a good idea to do
that with with just bands and I love a good did they do real
Caden stuff? They do like real glad
to have to have to have it was played straight. They were
standing there. Nice. No, no bullcrap. Try watch the end of
the lot of these. The end of the year shows I NBC did a great
tribute everyone who's dead. And then pretty much I was looking
for somebody I know who they're gonna not say. And I was looking
but no, they covered everybody. It went on forever. Every dead
person was listed. And it's actually Russia writing him
down. And I say everybody's in a lot of people died in 2016.
Because they die every year.
I think in 8080 for something there were many more celebrities
so called celebrities who died if there was up near 170 or
something. Maybe this was not the worst year ever.
Well, it was a start. Yeah. This is an old lawyer joke. Sorry.
Sorry. I said now. Yeah. Couple of things we should. I was
noticing all the rundowns for the 2016 what happened? They all
I made my kind of my own list of stuff that was forgotten. I
don't know if you can think of anything was forgotten. But just
to mention a couple. Okay, the Panama Papers.
Panama Papers is a good one. Yes. There was no question. No
not mentioned in the remember
that in the Panama Papers led to the resignation of the prime
minister of Iceland if remember that. Yes. And Iceland. Allah,
you don't like to talk about sports. They won the Euro Cup.
Their soccer team is you know, this little bitty thing. Yeah,
you're mumbles Yeah. All right. All the shooting the Charlie
Hebdo 2016. I believe so. Yes. No, no. As a couple of things,
those weren't mentioned on the rundowns. The turkey coup was
apparently forgotten already. Yes. Cameron quitting was
forgotten already. Nobody in the rundown has mentioned Dilma
Rousseff the Brazilian head to Brazil is getting ousted by a
coup
I you could go down the street in anywheres Ville America and
say, Hey, what happened in Brazil with a coup and people go
like, huh? No, yeah, no, this is we are.
This brings me to a contrast. I got a couple of clips a rundown
of Britain. RT has this show called going underground. It's
about it's it's caters to the British. And it's about British
news. And there was a couple of things I picked up out of there.
And just to give you a tease, this is one of they brought
these colonists in from various newspapers. But there was a
tease in here I've got where is it? Or did it a British run down
to British run down three? Oh, yeah, this? Well, this is
actually pretty interesting that you're talking about people not
knowing anything. Here's a guy I think he's from the telegraph
came in and he started discussing what 2016 2017 is
going to be like, and he equates it to various years in history.
And then he goes into the understanding of the Brexit
strategy, which he believes is a bogus strategy. But I just got
the biggest kick out of a guy coming on. And the British would
they would pick up on his Americans to go What's he
talking about? What is what happened in 1848 Bleh British
rundown predictions acknowledges
that we're living through quite momentous times, but I think
that 2016 has been a year like 1848.
What was 1848?
Well, eight to 1840 was a revolutionary year in buddies.
This is on the European side of the of the motion and 18 for us,
1848 was, you know, just a prelude to the discovery of
gold. Ah,
yes, another Yes. 1849 Yes.
Okay. 1848 But you're like, maybe like 1917 It's a year when
there's been a maybe 1990 I think 79 a year when the
existing orders are being overtired. It's very hard to
second. Your minds. People who review wines. Oh, this wine.
Yeah, this 2015 is very much like it's a little bit like, oh,
I don't know, a 9096 maybe made they made me be 95. And they go
on with this sort of thing. And unless you're like in the know,
you would have no idea what they're talking about.
I got to ask you a question. Last night at dinner,
which was a Jeff are going by at slow speeds.
slow speeds. Yeah. For everybody. At the restaurant,
they said oh, we have a special on wine this evening. We are
offering a Moishe Chandon. Normally $110 per glass tonight
only $55. And I'm like, what? For mo A? I'm sorry, don't carry
on. I'm sorry. Don't carry on. I said what year? Is it? 2004. Now
you are the expert. We did not order this obviously. Is that at
what did should the price be for a glass of 2004? Domperidone?
Well, you can figure it out for yourself. But 2004 They're all
the Dom Perignon your vintage. They're not all not all vintage
are the same. But 2004 is credible. The bottle, it would
cost probably between 120 and 150 bucks.
So that's the retail.
And I don't see it much cheaper usually. And so you would
project the $5 in glass. Some markup they're making money at
55.
No kidding. Yeah, my baby drink up your your vodka martini. An
order that
you want to do is you throw it back at the guy. Do you have any
growers? Here's the key. Do you have any growers? Champagne? Oh,
man,
Abidan only known this I could have made the day?
Yeah. Do you have any grower champagne? And he could the guy
goes, pump up Bob, then you know, he doesn't know what he's
talking about. Right. And it should know what you're talking
about.
Let's go back to your clip being overturned.
And it's very hard to predict whether the who's going to be
the prince Messam nekkid for counter revolution 2017. Or
maybe there won't be maybe it's going to, again, together pace I
think is more likely to get a pace. The
reason I'm saying the counter revolution may be either the
Supreme Court or politicians in Westminster because of course
the biggest issue politically in this country. Obviously it's
Britain leaving the European Union in this
country it is. I don't see that. You know that the Supreme Court
or parliament, big business or Tony Blair that formidable
figure will be able to prevent any of this happening. What's
your impression of the preparations for this process?
Now?
I think they're very well, look, I can see exactly what's going
to happen. I think it's, it's all quite well set out now that
you're going to basically Mrs. Mays strategy is to stay in the
European Union without actually belonging to it, if that makes
sense to you.
Really? Well, that's certainly not what she's saying. Exactly.
Well,
I think one of the first, maybe a political correspondent
eventually learn that you must always watch what politicians
are doing that what they're saying that out, you can see
what exactly what she's maneuvering to do, which is to
basically keep Britain as much as possible in the single
market. And conceding in return a great deal of freedom of
movement
in your hearing this whispered around so CEOs of big major
companies in the civil service worrying about the fact there's
been no big preparations for revolutionary change. They can
take heart from this, it's going to be stable.
Well, this is what the Mrs. Mae is trying to do, whether how
that will many ways. It's a betrayal of what people voted
for. In 2008, on June the 23rd, that's what she was doing at the
moment.
Well, if that wasn't bad enough, here's a very short clip of a
different guy. He was interviewed on that show another
columnist from one of the newspapers, and it's very short
clips of the UK Diddy on rundowns. Again, you have to
listen carefully because he's breads. At this level, they are
very hard to understand not
much easier than Bunky moon, honestly. Hey,
right. You ever listen to the UK Diddy? This is a good one.
Careful. Alright, here we go.
So basically, Jeremy Corbyn Ale, he'll be gone by staying in the
European Union to be a second referendum and why do you want
to talk about a lot less?
second referendum? Nice. Not sure what Loch Ness has to do
with it?
Well, hey, it had to do with a disguise. It would. I didn't
want to keep the whole clip. But he was showing that if you'd bet
one pound bedding. And
London I will say had probably the most spectacular new year's
fireworks synchronize music display I've seen. It was you
should look at it on the YouTubes I mean, really
phenomenal. Very modern. Great music. Impressive. Impressive.
Good. Buddy had some to liven things up. Let's go back. Can we
get back to this rundowns is the same guy that talked about the
1848 goes on this is British run down to
and you've written to there will be a statue of Faraj some
statue of Faraj Nola,
now I want to stop right at you have Farage and the guy has an
explanation for it. And that the only reason I want to stop there
and mention this is not to pat ourselves on the back, because
there's no reason to do that. But I remember when we first
picked up on Faraj, which was about seven years ago. Yeah.
Very early on when we were the getting into the shows the model
that we have today, and we got nothing but grief from our
British audience.
Oh, yeah. Racist. A whole Why'd you even don't give him
exposure?
Yeah, he's, he's a loser. This guy's a racist. And he's a
racist crank and you guys are off. You're wrong. You guys are
wrong to be even mentioning him. He's not important. You think he
is he's not important. And we're not these are the people from
the country sending us notes. And but we saw something else.
We saw some sort of we had an insight into his like, who he
was he was talking to people like to say truth to power a
phrase. I don't like that much. But he is the one doing it.
Yeah. When he was giving the speeches at the at the EU, but
not the euro. European Parliament. Yeah. Anyway, so
that's gonna get a statue.
Well, that's a prediction. I presume it's not. It's not
actually predicted, but I think it
doesn't know those reason.
And I mean, you've written to there will be a statue for Arch
somewhere, maybe.
There shouldn't be amazing. Most I simply said that he's the one
of the most significant post World War Two politicians in
this country, probably two or three, most of you know, this
fellow who started with, I remember him 20 years ago, this
sort of lunatic in a posh coat, you know, in a trilby hat,
handing pamphlets to commuters at railway stations. That's how
it began. And he's ended up by changing British history. That's
an amazing thing to do. And he never will be. There should be a
statue to him.
But you'll never be forgiven by elites, presumably. Well, of
course,
history has makes different conclusions eventually. Because
part
of that Brexit vote then became Of course, certainly on the eve
of the Brexit vote was the entire British economy will be
destroyed almost instantaneously. Now there has
been massive rise in homelessness. We've seen NHS
strikes, we've seen it all sorts of The impact on social justice
could have been talked about, but in pure numbers apart from
the devaluation of the pound, which is good for projects,
borders, things don't seem that bad. I don't see
that these strikes isn't. I don't relate those to Brexit.
Maybe you do, but I don't I don't see this much. And social
justice issues. Perennial like they don't have much to do with
Brexit.
That was just austerity. But then, but a lot of the
establishment economists their reputations in tatters after
predicting that Britain could only exist as part of the
European Union or die,
or die, die.
We heard that and yeah, sure we did.
And last week, just as a little mockery of the, you know, we
have to remember, there's a number of things that people
will listen to the show, if you want to understand the
international aspects is that the British Parliament mocked
Trump, and we played clips a couple of times on this to an
extreme and
they just they said, We shouldn't even let him into the
country.
That was the debate, there was actually a debate in Parliament,
whether they should ban him from ever entering the country,
thinking of course, it had no chance of winning, and this
would be just a good political thing to do. And they have
banned people to the radio talk show. Michael Savage. Yeah,
Michael Savage has been banned from England for hate speech. So
that's the last one, which is kind of mocking the British
government,
because Nigel Farage was one of the first senior politicians to
greet Donald Trump. Will that be the defining moment of 2017
however, 2017 goes when he's inaugurated in
2017, that has the glorious Faraj meeting Trump while the
British ambassador some unfortunate bureaucrat called
Derek calcaneal to pick up these telephone calls, and put all of
his money on the State Department and Mrs. Clinton. And
so Paul, Derek, is hopeless as a British ambassador in
Washington. He's of twiddling his thumbs, Eddie back input
messages back to London.
How can they make these kinds of mistakes and it's a bit like the
Brexit.
British ambassador in Tehran in 1979, there's a character called
Anthony Parsons greatly respected, glaring victories.
But the fact is, he was setting back politics right up to the
last minute and the Shah of Iran is completely safe. In other
words, these guys don't understand. This has been a year
in which the or the so called experts these are Bachelors in
these countries and so on have been completely whose job it is
to know what's going on have been completely clueless and
blindsided by events. This is a very momentous things which are
happening.
Well, he's right about that. Yeah, it's a beautiful time to
be alive and to be broadcasting
is a beautiful time to have the no agenda show. Oh, yeah.
Because we fly in the face of all the information that
everybody else is providing that and from people who are being
blindsided. Yeah. Yes. And that guy you were talking about on
the last show comes up shows up now on PBS David Korn.
Oh my goodness. You got a clip from him.
I have three little clips.
Beautiful. This guy
corn and corn and
Brooks. Oh, what happened to the other douche?
He probably took the day off. Uh huh. Now corn comes on as the as
the kind of now both of both both of these guys hate Trump,
which doesn't make for a really interesting kind of argument
because there's no debate. It's just boy Trump's sucks. Yeah, he
does. He sucks he sucks bad he sucks bad he says worse than bad
is worse than worse than bad. So you have these two guys doing
that. And and they have this a couple of you. This is the I got
three clips of corn in Brookes outrageous analysis, they do not
think that Trump should not only not have won the thing, but he's
both of them kind of imply a corn for sure. Corn goes beyond
implying he comes out and pretty much says that, that Trump is a
Russian spy.
That's the guy that's the guy.
Ready? Yeah, word rages analysis central
level, which is more or less unprecedented. We'll
start talking a little bit about Russia will the sanctions that
we've imposed, keep the Russian hackers out.
Now, the you know, it's so disproportionate. I mean, they
interfered in our elections. And we like penalize them, whatever
we're doing. Underground. We don't know. Now, this is going
to be a big issue. And I have to say that the Obama at the Trump
position is a mystifying but be doomed. He has a nice little
Putin bromance going on right now. I think
anyone who says bromance should just be beat to death.
Now, do what's interesting about him when he brings it a
bromance. He makes this dire prediction which is so often
rails are can't wait, no with absolutely zero foundation. It's
unbelievable to me
mystifying, but be doomed. He has a nice little Putin bromance
going on right now. I think we're gonna get a hankies
because there's going to turn into an ugly relationship within
a year or two the things that make them symbol similar.
They're machismo, they're expansionary braggadocio is
going to turn them I think into bitter and dangerous enemy
Braga dacha isn't a braggadocious he's saying
Brighty Italian now brigade.
I think it's I think it's pronunciation is correct. But
But braggadocio expansionism, he says he backed up a little bit,
what expansionism are we talking about the Russians doing that
phony baloney little election in Crimea and just pretty much
taking over the place that meet because they needed it because
it's their base or the that area? That's it, what other
expansion is are they doing? I mean, we are for sure, yes, but
it's not even us as NATO. So what is I don't even know what
he's talking about.
I have an interesting clip, but it won't be ready until
Thursday, because we have a number of Russian speakers. And
I've, I've basically recruited Sergio. I said, Look, I need you
to do translated voice of Vladimir Putin when he's saying
really important things. And he did it for me. But I said
anymore, boris and Natasha, so he's going to work on that. So
we will finally have clips that we will have finally of clips
that we can actually hear what he's saying because he was all
about all the bases that the US has, versus what Russia is
doing. Very interesting. So that's coming that's coming. But
yeah, expansionism, please,
there machismo there, expansionary braggadocio is
going to turn them I think, into bitter and dangerous enemies.
And he will look back on this moment where we thought Putin
and Trump were so close as a woman, a bitter irony, when they
get into a schoolyard display against each other amping up
each other's worst tendencies, and putting the two countries in
some sort of scary position. That's just my field, how things
let me hear that, again. My feeling, a feeling that's gonna
happen is great.
Each other's worst tendencies and putting the two countries in
some sort of scary position. That's just my field, how things
are gonna go in the next year?
My feeling because I'm the next best case
scenario. I don't necessarily see it going that way. I still
am mystified to use your word about why Trump is out there
tweeting praise of Vladimir Putin these days, and still kind
of denying, dismissing this, you know, whether the hacking
happened or the seriousness of it, and people out there keep
asking what is behind this bromance before the election, I
reported a story about a counterintelligence officer from
another service, sending reports to the FBI, saying that his
sources in Russia were saying that Moscow tried for years to
cultivate and Co Op, Donald Trump. I'm not saying that
happened, saying the hope the FBI, because it really is hard
to believe that a president elect would be so callous in how
he approaches this issue. It's so dismissive of the seriousness
of it. And so maybe he'll turn on Putin, as you suggest, but
maybe there's something else there in which he is enamored
with Putin, for some reason that we don't really understand yet.
Oh, my goodness, this is so tiring.
And he also makes his the way he presents it as Oh, he's talking.
He talked to a counter intelligence officer quote from
another service. We're now what is what what what does he mean
by another service? We don't have any services discussed? No.
In other words, there's no discussion. There's that like,
they were talking about the CIA that he says, I talked to
somebody from another service. They didn't do that. They were
talking about the CIA, the NSA, anything, he just throws in
another service. What does that mean?
The spy?
Just saying that again? I'll say it when you would you brought
this clip up before I mean, it pretty much wasn't this same
clip, but it was a clip that he discord guy said before. He's
Nobody's allowed to talk to him that way. He's talking to it.
He's talking to a trader. Yeah.
Yes. You can't do that. Of course not. This David Korn man.
Cornholio is when his new name David Cornholio.
So here's corn and Brooks. This is the rap. They go into say,
what is this all about? Just complaining. De legitimatize.
Gielen. I can't even say je la de legitimatize NG. That's it.
Yes. Trump's election and Correns all in on this idea. No,
not as much as he should be. De legitimatize.
The President elects position that we've got to move on this
is these are all essentially ploys to try to de legitimize my
win.
Well, I think he shouldn't legitimize for many reasons. And
his reply to
well, there's many reasons don't ask questions.
Guys elected he shouldn't be delegitimize. Yes, just
Just to be quiet,
delegitimize for many reasons, to this hacking is also caused
for D legitimization. But to say we should move on when the
bedrock of American democracy or the sanctity of our elections
has been messed with. It just raises suspicions, it'd be so
easy for him to say the obvious thing. This is terrible. We're
going to look into it. And we're going to try to prevent this
from happening again in the in the future, but his denial of it
happening or it's serious as this shows that there's
something really amiss from his end of it.
Now he's just not on board with your program, which is bull
crap. What I find fascinating and we'll we'll get into it in a
moment. I know you have one more wrap up here. When slash dot and
Hacker News, and you know, other I would say reasonably
respectable publications have gone through this joint
assessment report and said, there's no proof there. Where
are all of my dudes named Ben? Who were Hillary of a hate
Trump? Let's put it that way. Whether a Hillary supporters of
Bernie Bros or whatever, where are they? That I'm looking on
the face bag. I know people who are coming hate Trump and who
are very, very skilled. They're not saying anything.
That's pathetic. It is pathetic, because it's so hot. This whole
issue shouldn't be dropped a cheap fishing expedition to boy,
you know, or you know what I have? I don't know if you got a
copy of it. One of our producers, I'm allowed to
mention his code name, sir. Crash EMT was on the open phone
call with DHS, FBI and other cyber communities where they
briefed everyone on the joint analysis report. And he gave us
a whole rundown which I'd like to do. But let's flip play your
last clip first.
The last clip is just is the kicker it's a kind of a humorous
thing. I cut it off, the word should be cut off. This is
Brooks being asked to kind of a deep question. He finally admits
to what he admits military during the election when he said
he didn't know what he was talking about. And I don't even
know why he's on this show.
David Brooks, what happens in that conversation with
intelligence officials that Donald Trump said he is going to
take in order to get to the bottom of this or get to a
common set of facts? It's already a fairly tense
relationship with the intelligence community.
Of course, I didn't know what's going on.
Now, of course, I don't really know what's going on. We don't
want
blue and you don't know why others think news, why don't you
get joking?
That's right, everybody. So of course, I read the report for
everybody. I'm sure everybody read it wasn't all that big.
This is the initial report the joint analysis report from the
cyber communities. And I would like to give a little rundown
from the audio isn't it apparently there will be audio
which may be interesting to cut up. But our producer was on the
call. And he says the briefing start off with the same
disclaimer as the joint analysis report itself, which of course,
I saw, immediately at the top of this report in a big banner. I
think people don't see that maybe banner because of banner
ads. We gloss over that. I mean, when when a report starts, it
starts off like this. And in the call that as well. With the
following terms, this report is provided as is for informational
purposes, only. The Department of Homeland Security does not
provide any warranties of any kind regarding any information
contained within DHS does not endorse any commercial product
or service reference in this advisory otherwise. So they're
saying they don't even warrant the information in their own
report.
Right. I think it stop right there at the dawn
at the top of the report. Why is no one mentioning that?
Actually at all the news? Most of the news outlets have did
okay. But they didn't have enough offhanded way that.
Again, I've we've talked about this on the show before the way
you present makes a big difference and you present it in
a way that it's light.
Yeah, so point two from our producer. They referenced the
integrity of voting systems once were provided absolutely no
evidence or statements that voting anywhere in the US was
compromised, like the Democratic National Committee, the Hillary
in other campaigns, think tanks, university other etc. None of
those were in any spear phishing attacks. grisly step. That's our
codename of 100% spear phishing campaign, according to this
briefing that our producer received, created and create an
insider threats in these organizations who entered their
username and passwords on the form from a fake email we know
this. So just some details all the landing pages were made to
look like Gmail and Yahoo landing pages all attacks were
persisted from Yahoo and Skype domains. Interesting. Skype.
Hello Microsoft, the attackers mingled their traffic in from
sources that are legitimate business so as to deter
blacklisting. to that fact FBI and DHS experts stated openly on
the phone call not to blacklist these domains in response to the
attacks really. Please don't blacklist these domains. DHS
reemphasize there was no attack on voting systems. DHS and FBI
declassified the signatures for specific antivirus companies,
they wouldn't say whom but the signatures will eventually be
made public. And then they went through the that was what most
of the report was a recommendation to the IT
security community. So watch for false positives. Use detection,
watch your firewall logs. Let me see what else do we have ah has
DHS FBI emphasize in their native advertising moment of the
call? That you should ask your cyber vendor the following
things. If they backup your essential data regularly, if
they conduct risk analysis on your systems, how they train
their staff in your to prevent phishing and other scams, and
implementing patterns for vulnerability, patching and
scanning is practice Application Whitelisting methods perform a
practice notification tree for when a problem is detected. You
kind of get in the idea that this was more about how to not
get spear fished, and how to you know how to hire the right cyber
vendor, I guess. And the only only only thing they have is the
spear phishing. That's all and this was actually
can be done by anybody. Yeah, it
was kind of brought up in a funny way by I think he's a
former Trump adviser Steve Cortes. He was on with Chris
Hayes always funny to listen to correct Chris Hayes get butt
slammed. Listen to this.
That's the was not hacked. He gave it to a phishing scheme,
which by the way was as juvenile as the emails that we all
receive from a Nigerian prince. Do you think it was his fault?
Yes. Do you believe
that is the kind of a senile grandfather false for that?
Surely,
John Podesta is a grandfather, because he was he was a phishing
attack. Yes. But here's the more important point to what we keep
talking about is I don't know who did who did the hacking of
the DNC. Podesta was not hacked, he fell for a steam. The DNC was
hacked. That is clear. Who did it. I don't know. We do know,
though, is what was revealed by the hack. And what was revealed
was a Democratic Party that was corrupt to its core,
particularly when it involves their primary and Bernie
Sanders. And the more the American people learned about
the Democratic Party, and the more they learned about Hillary
Clinton, right, less they liked and trusted them. And it's one
of the reasons
the Washington Post even had to they do this a lot. Now. They
keep having to upend their reporting. And the most recent
report was, and this was this was really fake news. This was
unbelievable that the Russians are trying to hack the grid.
They're trying to get in and trying to hack the grid. With
check it out my favorite with outdated Ukrainian mall malware.
And as it turns out, the the malware was on a laptop that was
not nor has it ever been connected to, to the grid system
at all is the Vermont hack. Yes, the Vermont hack. Exactly. Yeah.
Total bowl credit an eye roller that was and they had to amend
that story as well. We read that and let me read you their
amendment. This is I want to ask you a question about that. You
Editor's Note, an earlier version of this story
incorrectly said that Russian hackers had penetrated the US
electric grid Washington Post authority say there's no
indication of that so far. The computer at Burlington electric
that was hacked was not attached to the grid. And hacked is a big
word because picking up some malware can happen from number
of number of
this guy just said his laptop was infected. I mean, it's like,
yeah,
but as a as a someone who's been in the business when a newspaper
such as the Washington Post, not once or twice, but you know,
really multiple times in the same story has to have an
Editor's Note put on past. A postscript is that how was that
seen? journalistically? Is that Oh, you did a great job or is it
you suck the first time or how was that viewed?
Well, this is interesting, because this is a new
development. And I when I was doing the show, Cranky geeks,
great sure I'd have it was it was a great thing to have these
editors on who from big newspapers and elsewhere or or
journalists to professors or whatever, and I I asked about
this because I had this, my thinking was, you should just do
slipstream changes to the article itself. Yeah, just
change the articles. Because this is not a newspaper that's
printed, and you're stuck with it. Because in print and and you
have to make a correction the next day or the next edition,
you can change the next edition sometimes. But generally
speaking, you always want to put a little note on error
correction. We put the note someplace else in the paper,
which they like to do sometimes, that mentions that this was
corrected. So in case somebody pulls the original offense is
right. This is terrible. And he said, No, no, no, we corrected
it. And then there's the evidence of the correction.
Right? Now with real time news gathering and reporting, which I
consider the Internet to be, I just don't see why you just
don't change in the article makes sure the articles fluid.
So I got into a lot of arguments about this, because nobody, it
turns out, nobody accepts this idea of mind, which is that it's
a different medium. And so you treat it differently. So what
they like to do is, they like to go back as though it was in
print, and I can see where they were thinking they sort of they
see as it as if it was in print, and it can't be changed is
because it's in print. So you have to make these corrections
at the end of the article. So the article start to collect
corrections, because there's another problem that that
evolves, which is that they rushed to rush these things out.
Because you know, you got to you can get it with a newspaper, it
goes through a series of processes, before it actually
gets to the printer, right. But you don't do that anymore. So
they so they make a lot more mistakes than they used to. And
so they put these they document the mistakes and these no dead
node, you know, correction, correction correction, and
sometimes it can be blogged longer than the article. And
that's where we stand right now is that yes, those will be will
be there until somebody changes their mind about how to do it.
I like your idea. And I remember that that was kind of what
everyone wanted to do with blogs when they first came up. But
then there was this backlash. Oh, you can't do that.
Because there's a lot of things that people mentioned moan about
that just went by the wayside. I remember with lifting images.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You deep linking? you're linking
to the image, you're stealing content?
Well, you're stealing content. And then the big thing was
you're stealing bandwidth. Oh, yeah.
I remember just stealing that. Yeah, of course. And then
bandwidth
that so cheap, then usage stealing bandwidth. How much? Is
it costing you? Exactly?
You're so well, a, I will say that, man, this must have been
2003 or something, I think Slashdot was already around, and
you got slash dotted slash dot point into your web server, you
were going down. But a lot of people said, Man, this is no,
they're stealing my bandwidth.
The art, there's two things that were going on with the arguments
about the blogs and the images. One the images the way I always
saw it. And it was another argument that I get into with a
lot of journalists and others. If you've got a blog, and you've
gotten there's an image that's attached to USA Today, it's on
their server, and it's a picture of a hurricane. And you want to
talk about the hurricane, you'd link to that image. And you said
the hurricane is terrible. The images on their servers on USA
Today server, there's no doubt about who owns the image, all
you're doing is linking to it. Other people said no, no your
debts, you're stealing their bandwidth. Well, the only other
alternative if you want to use that image, you could steal the
image and put it on your server. But now you've actually loaded
directly. And I mean, that stolen the image. Yeah, when
you're just linking to a link is the link just having to bring up
an image when it when you're looking at it. It there's
nothing's being stolen. It's just somebody else's image on
somebody else's page. And then they, you know, tried to make
this argument about stealing bandwidth is it's been up this
stuff's been up in the air since since the early days of framing
when people and that actually went to court. When people would
put a frame you could choose a frame function that you can
have, you could frame a whole webpage. Yeah, frame. Yeah,
sure. And you in the frame, you could put advertising. That was
that was the guys who started doing that. got sued, and nobody
back them up. And so they actually lost that Susan,
framing actually became illegal. Good times.
Man. This is this is the days from when we still had the blink
tag. Things were good time. So everyone's jumping on this hack
bandwagon. Here's a shield from the Chertoff Group about the
Russian hack.
Mike is a homeland security consultant to join me from
Chicago a short time ago I began by asking him to his thoughts on
the future of cyber conflict.
I think that we're we're coming to a change world where There's
going to be a great deal more uncertainty. There's a
pervasiveness to cyber vulnerability that goes across
all dimensions of, of Western society these days, and security
services, we'll never be able to say, with any certainty at all
that all of Britain's secrets, all of America's secrets, all of
our infrastructure, all of our political system is protected
against attack. That's we're just never going to get to that
place. Yes, we can. So what does that mean for individuals?
The internet? That's an idea.
You guys secrets? Take them off. So what are they doing on the
internet in the first place, if their secrets? Yeah.
How about this encryption? Ever hear of it? It's really easy to
do.
And what does that mean for individual nations, then? Does
this mean that all our children need to start coding from a
young age realistically?
Well, as to twofold. First, there's a great deal more that
we can do in terms of education, in terms of developing
capabilities within a nation. The other portion of this, of
course, is do better at doing the simple things. I mean,
fundamentally, we're in the place we are right now with
respect to the US elections, because the IT manager for the
Democratic National Committee disregarded some pretty clear
signals, and they wound up getting hacked. That was a solid
problem. That doesn't mean the Russians are absolved from
responsibility. But it does mean that if you don't have the good
sense to lock your door, some of the blame is on you.
Yes, Ben. Of course, they blame the poor dude named Ben, who
apparently was a victim of AutoCorrect. Because he sent
that's the Podesta thing. Yeah.
Yeah. You say, yeah. I legit said legitimate email. And he
said, Ah, but I typed illegitimate, but it must have
autocorrected. That's the new excuse.
That's a good one, though. Yeah. Like,
here's Good Morning America. Remember, again, the report that
was released? Show has no proof. The Yes, there was a spear
phishing the nope, no proof. It was Russia. Zero proof. It's
just not in there. Go look at Slashdot go look at you know, go
look at what's the other Hacker News. They've they've looked at
it don't take my word for it. But of course, good morning.
America is all in that. What do you think?
Do you think the sanctions go far enough? And do you think a
President Trump is just going to roll them back anyway? Well, I
think we don't know that in 22 days, he'll take office and
we'll see what he does. I was thinking this morning, Dan,
about how we've lost so many stars from the 1980s in the
course of 2016. And now we have a president elect who's varying
the foreign policy of Ronald Reagan, who called Russia and
the Soviet Union and evil empire. He's basically saying,
we're done with that. It's time to move on. I find it
fascinating that Donald Trump said it's time to move on from a
second. And first of all, Reagan said that during the era of the
Soviet Union, the Soviet Union on Russia, thank you. And if you
want to also remember some of the bromance that was going on
between George Bush, George W. Bush and Putin, they were
buddies, they used to hang out at the ranch. So that's a
possibility that can still happen. So this is bullcrap.
This is bad reporting. This is twisting history. It really irks
me.
I know. He's basically by the way, that's why I play these
clips, because your response is just gold,
Russia and the Soviet Union and evil empire. He's basically
saying, we're done with that. It's time to move on. I find it
fascinating that Donald Trump says it's time to move on from a
cyber war and active cyber warfare. But he actually can't
move on from a bad restaurant review or not winning an Emmy
Award for apprentice. It's an amazing situation.
Now what now the guy's just completely confused. Who is this
guy?
Doubt doubt something. Dowd. He's on GMA
Doing Good Morning. Good Morning, America. Yeah.
So as you said two things there cyber war and house it election.
Of course. Now, this is the true kicker short clip from NBC NBC
News, Hans Nichols. He really takes the cake when it comes to
proof that that Russia did this is obvious proof.
Here at the Russian Embassy in Washington. They reach tweeted
Trump's praise for Putin, but a US official tells.
It's a short clip you want to hear
praise for Putin. But a US official tells NBC News that
Putin is decision not to retaliate may in fact, be an
acknowledgment that they crossed the line.
Oh, please. I heard that. How are we going to spin this one?
Hey, he says he didn't admit it. He did. He's guilty.
Okay, here's the I have the Now that you've played this short
clip, I want to play the long version. This is the the
complete NBC again, NBC rundown of the kicking Russia out. And I
want to before we play this, this, they're talking about
this, especially these two properties that the Russians own
own. One of them bought by the Soviet Union, it gets to the
70s. And when more recently,
yes, I'd like to know a little bit about these properties and
what the deal is with them.
Well, there's a couple of things that they own them, but they
were confiscated by the State Department. And I'd like to know
why
they do that under eminent domain. How did they do that?
How do you
Hello, why why is it some reporter in one of these news
conferences that have access to these these these blowhards?
Asking that specific question? Even RT doesn't ask. Yeah, I
think they're there cuz they don't know what property rights
are.
I was unaware that they actually confiscated them.
They J kicked everybody out. And I ended Yeah, in this report,
they say they confiscated now I want to say again, a little
aside here before you play this because as long as you can
interrupt it, is that I think personally, because they know
Trump's gonna just say geek guys get back and move back into
these places. But
don't say I know exactly what you're gonna say. They're
bugging the place. Exactly. They're, they're wiring that
crap up all from top to bottom old
bugs out the old crappy bugs, which probably had been already
caught and figured out, painted over. And they're putting in the
new high tech bugs that the Russians will never find.
What else? Yeah,
I've been you when you said it. I'm like, Oh, of course, makes
nothing but sense. All right. I'm intrigued.
Tonight, President elect Trump tweeting more praise for
Vladimir Putin, after Putin's unexpected move not to expel any
US diplomats from Russia. Putin holding fire after President
Obama ordered 35 suspected spies
on holding fire. What kind of terminology is that?
There's a bunch of little ditties. There's a little delay
putting things in a certain way to make it sounds like war time.
And I've noticed this especially with NBC they're doing this a
lot is crazy little phrases and things and make it sound more
ominous and crazy. And we're in a state of war. It's like, I
don't know. I wish somebody would explain to me what the
deal is about this is hate toward Russia. And we have I
mean, I've got a whole thing. Well, you
remember you remember where how it started? Okay, it started
with the gays. And once the gays were told that Russia and I'll
put it in the show notes, we did a whole white paper with Brian,
the gay Crusader that this was all crap. It was really only
meant to levy fees on American western media. But it started
with the gays. And if you look at the percentage of gays in
mainstream media, I would say that they had been tainted from
Melbourne day one. And this is what now three years ago, four
years ago when that started.
It begs the question, what is the deal? Why did why do we have
to hate Why do we have to hate the Russians? And John McCain
and Lindsey Graham are part of this. The Neo cons are part of
this. They are pushing this agenda of hating the Russians.
But what did the Russians do besides hate? Besides right,
some go?
Well, go ahead and say it.
But you know what they did? What? Come on,
you're gonna make me say it. Yeah, Snowden. Exactly. I gave
you every opportunity. It's your bids.
I let you say at this time,
the US diplomats from Russia, Putin holding fire after
President Obama ordered 35 suspected spies out of America
and sanction top Russian officials for hacks aimed at
influencing the election. Putin writing we will not create any
problems for US diplomats, but insisting that we are keeping
the right to retaliate. Trump's response. Great move on delay by
V. Putin. I always knew he was very smart. Putin's decision
surprising some administration officials and coming just
moments after his own foreign minister publicly called for
American diplomats to be kicked out wasn't even listed. But the
former KGB Colonel instead personally inviting the
diplomats to
KGB Colonel wide wide, wide, wide wide.
Don't forget the KGB was disbanded in 1991 1991. And
instead of calling him the President of Russia, for the
former KGB colonel, they call him this is NBC again. They use
his the former KGB Colonel. What does that got to do with the
story? All implications this
is like the this is a greatest example of propaganda distinct
style of reporting and we are interrupt NPCs reeks of it. And
we interrupt these clips frequently and people are
wondering sometimes why but this is why the words that a words
matter the words that are used have been controlling. They use
it to twist your thinking. Exactly. And and it's quite
effective. The I think some why these guys do that. I mean, do
you think this guy actually sits down and writes his own script?
Yes. But I, you know, I'd like to know how many editors there
are at at this level of the news at NBC, because it's the highest
of the highest, this is the top of the top cream of the crop?
How many people sit there? And they I think they do this on? I
mean, they do it on purpose, obviously, that's in the script.
But are they doing it to manipulate the listener? I'm
actually big as a writer who writes to manipulate lists
readers, because that's what you do you try to convince them that
your position is correct. And why do you do that? Because you
have a position on something that you see that you see what
you believe is righteous, you're
an essayist, these guys are these guys. These guys are
reporters.
Yes. The as an essayist, or an opinion writer, that my job is
to is to push an opinion or an idea. The reporters are supposed
to be neutral, get to another clip I have later, oh, wow,
that's not working out. These guys are supposed to be
reporting on a neutral basis, but they're they're slanting
their coverage, which I think is completely illegitimate, which
is what we point out on this show to show people that we're
not you're not getting a good product from these folks.
It is anything but an outstanding product. It is
inferior in fact,
but the former KGB Colonel instead personally inviting the
diplomats children to a New Year's Eve celebration. NBC,
Lucy Kavanaugh is in Moscow,
the holiday party that the American children were invited
to will take place behind me at the Kremlin Palace. The move
comes as Putin spokesman seemed to dismiss President Obama's
actions saying in three weeks there will be a new American
president.
But Trump's move today, not as surprising, as Putin's despite
assessments by 17 intelligence agencies that Russia was behind
the hack that President Elect Russia was to blame
could be somebody sitting in a bed someplace.
Trump has said he'll meet with the intel community to see the
fresh evidence against Russia. But his approach carries risks.
Now, I would hope that he wouldn't give away the farm.
Just for a good photo op. We have real concrete interests
that need to pre pursued with Russia.
And here the Russian Embassy in Washington they retweeted
Trump's praise for Putin. But a US official tells NBC News that
Putin's decision not to retaliate may in fact be an
acknowledgment that they crossed the line.
Hans Nichols Reporting in Washington tonight as part of
the punishments leveled at Russia the US today closed down
to exclusive properties used by the Russians here in the States.
The US government believes those sites may have been involved in
espionage to that NBC gave Gutierrez has an inside look
back it up a little bit and maybe because I want to re
emphasize may have been involved in espionage with what comes
later in the report. Okay. Which is like you know that this man
they dropped his little bomb in there this may be involved in
espionage these their vacation homes and their big mansions for
parties. It's a party house is what it is pride house like,
Yeah, but then they bring that up. But now they've dropped a
little espionage thing in there so you can go there may have
been involved in espionage Oh, really? At this remote and also
a lot of the reporting that went into the newspapers with these
stories about this. They also brought us some stories about
some Russian gang criminals that were arrested to try to make you
associate the two when they had nothing to do with either one.
There was just a complete Association. I don't know why
they would do the train that kid but okay, Dawn is
punishments levelled at Russia. The US today closed down to
exclusive properties used by the Russians here in the States. The
US government believes those sites may have been involved in
espionage. Tonight. NBCs gave Gutierrez has an inside look at
these compounds that have stood in plain sight for decades.
Today outside this compound in Maryland, a rush to pack up and
get out a day after the US said he was shutting down the home
and another one on New York's Long Island as part of its
retaliation against Russia. The Obama administration has not
detailed what type of intelligence gathering took
place in these buildings. But a senior intelligence official
tells NBC News the properties were not part of the cyber
campaign against the US. Instead, they were secure
facilities where the Russians could hold secret meetings.
They've been quiet neighbors across the bay from Washington
the Maryland compound is just 63 miles from the White House and
near NSA headquarters. These pictures from inside I'd show
massive dining rooms and luxurious lounges. Sprawling 45
acre estate known for diplomatic parties where
have you ever seen the green zone in Iraq, the vodka
flowed, closing the compounds now perhaps more symbolic than
operational. It's possible
that this is more of just sort of sending a message almost an
annoyance to the Russians saying, Yeah, look, you have
these nice facilities and you we're no longer going to give
you access to them. The properties
were on US officials radar for decades, but stration at the
height of the Cold War, let them stay.
If we went and arrested every single person that we suspected
to be a spy and kicked them out of the country, they would do
the same to us.
Tonight. The two Russian retreats now under the control
of the US State Department gave us here is NPC news
under control. Okay.
So I don't know it sounds like they've confiscated property.
Real Property is somebody's own and I find that weird. But they
also notice the way they their terminology again on NBC all
loaded words, instead of being in a state or a mansion or
wherever you want to call it. They call them compound.
And it's only 73 miles
from the White House. And 60s Yes, 63 miles. I mean, this like
from here to Sacramento. I mean, it's, you know, it's not even
close. It'd be from here when I'm in, like the Berkeley area.
to San Jose, it takes me 45 minutes to drive there. That's
only 40 miles away. I mean, it's not even anywhere near the White
House is what they should say.
That's crazy.
I find it extremely offensive to get these reports and the you
know, the public's lapping it up. Oh, God.
Well, I was very happy to see Matt Taibbi. Finally,
oh, he finally got it worked, I guess and had that come out
against the scrap two. Huge hillary supporter
Rolling Stone magazine headline, something about this Russia
story stinks. He says. But here's what here's what was
interesting about his story. This dramatic story puts he
writes this dramatic story puts the news media in a jackpot
absent independent verification, reporters will have to rely upon
the secret assessments of intelligence agencies to cover
the story at all. Many reporters I know are quietly freaking out
about having to go through that again. Because we all remember
the WMD fiasco. It's deja vu all over again, as well. One friend
put it that and I wouldn't have minded him saying which
reporters were freaking out about that. But yes, this is
what I mean. When Trump says this says hey, we heard this the
WMD from the same people.
Then it well, you douche. Pretty much. I mean, that's kind of the
response douche.
I have this clip. And I'm not absolutely sure. And it's all
misspelled. And that's it. Yeah, that's a shocker. It says me doe
lies about Russia sanctions. Fabulous.
Let's play that. Well. Despite all that some US media outlets
were quick to report that Russia had already retaliated before
any official statement was made. Russia's Foreign Ministry
spokeswoman gave a strong response to the misinformation.
Russia now vowing to issue its own response to US sanctions and
has already ordered the American School of Moscow to close
that is a lie. And there is no need to say that Moscow denied
or Moscow will not just say it how it is CNN and other Western
media outlets basing their reporting on official US
government sources have spread false information.
You know, from from our spies in the military intelligence. They
were sending. They're sending jokes around like, Yeah, I know.
The Russians have to leave. There'll be back on January 21
is kind of the joke. Yes, probably after the inauguration.
Oh, by the way, march 11. I've been invited to go to DC for the
100th birthday celebration of Lieutenant Colonel James
Majelis.
Who is that is? Yeah, he's
one of them. He's from the 82nd airborne. One of them. He fought
the Battle of the Bulge.
I mean, this guy's battle the budget guy still alive. Yeah,
it's 100
it's gonna turn 100 years old. And I've been invited to the
celebration and it's going to be spook heaven, fleeing somebody
there. betrayus is going to be there tons of spooks. In fact,
I've asked if I wanted to ask Uncle Don if he wanted to come
along.
What yeah, that's, that's very funny.
Well, that well, apparently, there's there's guys there who
ran like, you know, CIA stations in Panama, and you in around the
time when Don was in involved in Iran Contra.
So how did you get invited to this shindig?
Well, the You're wondering,
is anyone going to look around and say, What's this guy doing
here? Well,
that's why I'm taking Tina. So just like, what's this guy who
cares?
They're allowed to stay.
Our guy knows that. There'll be fun, you know, we will have a
material.
Oh, I'm sure there'll be some maybe you never know some of
these guys aren't as talkative as you'd hope. Well, the casual
conversations, though, because they have casual conversations,
these guys might be interesting to eavesdrop on?
Well, I'm very excited about it. And the same guy told me that
the invitations have still not been sent out. But there is
still a possibility. I'll get an invite to the inauguration.
Well, I hope you do.
Oh, man, are we so much fun for the show?
Well, I personally, I'm guessing that the spook heaven would be
more interesting for the show than the inauguration, which
would just be a man. I agree,
which is why, which is why I mentioned it first off. But
yeah,
we'll see. There's much I want to do. We do have a lot of
spooks that listen to the show. It's possible one way they may
have checked up Jay, uninvited this guy down the list. No, I'm
sorry, you're not on the list.
Now, I think in general, and we'll spell that again.
Is it C? Could it be C O RR y,
I think in general, people who have listened to us for a while
and are in armed services, regardless of which country they
seem to like to show and they seem to appreciate what we what
we've done in the past. You know, highlighting issues that
are military housing,
you have a source of real analysis is not colored by the
bullet crafted these these guys that these big networks have to,
you know, have to do or do on because they want to do I don't
know, if I was you were mentioning earlier about you
know, how these, do these guys do some of this stuff on purpose
or not? I have a clip, which is just the art is on RT they were
slamming Christina and poor, douche bag, and
you want me to tell you when you're using that word. What?
Slamming?
Yeah. Yeah. And but then sometimes it's to trigger that
cool thing. There's RP RT report on truth and journalism, I
thought was actually pretty good
tool raising the minimum wage and against globalization.
Merkel a leftist. she championed austerity and privatization. Not
so long ago, being worried of immigration was considered
perfectly normal. Now, that makes you a far right nutcase.
Community qualify as populist? Everybody who doesn't agree with
it. But political polarity
is not all that's changed. 2016 is the year that journalism fell
into a death spiral. So I
now say truthful, not neutral. There's a difference. Yes,
truthful is bringing the truth neutral can be creating a false
equivalence between the facts.
Here are two examples of truth. An aggressive pit bull attacked
its owner. That's absolutely true. It did. Now, here's
another truth. The owner was cruel and regularly beat the
dog. That's also true. And it's the other side of the story. It
changes the narrative telling both is what makes journalism
now here's the kicker, what Christiane Amanpour was telling
you what CNN is telling you is that you don't need to hear both
sides of the story. Now say V will choose the version, the
truth to you, you need to hear
and I really want you to know that I go out of my way to bring
you the truth. And
if you want to know what's in store, look at the media's
coverage of the US election acclaimed as the most biased and
one sided in recent history. The idea again, that the world is
changing. Yes.
Now the that's an interesting thing. She said when she said
the problem with the neutral art thing where you're supposed to
just present information and people kind of put it together
themselves to you doing it for them, right. And it creates a so
called false equivalency. Yeah, this argument is specious. It's
bull crap. It's nonsense, but it's it sounds good. And that
audience had clap for what she had to say what happened?
Absolutely. It was on the Trevor Noah show. No, of course. And so
they're all very slanted in there. As far as they're
concerned. You know, Trump's a douchebag. And Hillary shouldn't
be should be president. Now the false equivalency argument is
only in extreme cases that it goes like this. You're supposed
to view report on Hitler from both the pro and con sides. So
people that are anti Hitler, you know, Hitler's a jerk and he's a
big He's a murderer. And so we know he's a good family, man.
Hey,
we got the Volkswagen.
And you guys good. Yeah, you got the vote. So that is what were
the false equivalency. In other words, you can't just no good
and bad side, you can't bounce report on genocide is really the
argument doesn't really have a genocide. Okay, well, what's the
good let's get somebody who's pro genocide. And someone who's
hates genocide, and let's give a report on that. That's worse.
That's what she's talking about. But in general, the number of
stories where you have the false equivalency problem is just
minuscule. Yeah, this is bullcrap. What she's saying
this was, well, she's an elite. This is what these this, these
people believe this is just this total belief. They live in a
different universe. We share the same earth, but I don't know.
Well, actually, that dimension thing that you have is the so
that we have to really Yeah, the
parallel universe multiple dimensions. Yeah. Yeah, just
before we go to a break here, I wasn't one of the things I was
noticing during during New Year's Eve, and this must be a
huge disappointment for the cell phone operators. Up until about
two years ago, maybe even up until last year, New Year's Eve.
Me I'm getting text messages all night long, then starts around
5pm When my friends in Europe, and it's my sister's birthday on
January 1. So you know, and of course, you know, the Dutch they
congratulate the whole family. But it was all SMS text
messaging. I think I got to last night, everyone else was just
posting their New Year's stuff on social media. And that was so
much money for the for the cell phone operators, at their, you
know, 40 or 50 cents a text message and international is
crazy. I just wonder how much money they're losing or what or
what the upside was before people did this on social media?
No, I'm sure there's discuss with these meetings when they
have them. And
then one other thing, although it kind of belongs in tech news,
but I do have a gripe. Both the Facebook app and Apple iMessage.
When you type the words, Happy New Year, into either the
Facebook, if you send someone a message or into the apple
Message System iMessage. The minute you type that and hit
return, or the minute someone opens that the iPhone goes into
this, and you see fireworks and the screen is flashing and
everyone I saw Oh, this is so cool. That's like, how could
this is not a good idea. I don't want apple adding shit to what
I'm sending to people. Who knows what they'll add next. I don't
think this is a good idea. It should be you should at least be
able to opt out of it.
And this I agree. This is editorializing and it could
trigger
people. It could you know with the epilepsy or other things.
It's quite a quite a lot of flashing, but I do know everyone
was Oh screw Apple screw you to remember when YouTube slipped
their album on to your iTunes. Yeah, my favorite. But now it's
like, oh, this is so cool. Well, it's not. I don't think it's
cool. I think you know, you can put an opt out or opt in would
be preferable, but I'm not I'm not on board with this idea. I
don't think that's good. Stop it. And we've had,
I'm sure they will pay very careful attention to this.
Pratik.
Now they're too busy trying to fix that stupid MacBook Pro.
They got no time for anything else. We'd like to thank you for
your courage and say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak.
Great to see you stands for correcting your journalistic
goofs is okay.
Well, in the morning you Mr. Adam curry also in the morning
and boots on the ground seat in the air, water and all the names
and nights out there in the
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Thanks for showing up on this first day of 2017. And in the
morning to cesium 137. He brought us the artwork for
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his image was great fit perfectly. Pouring digital money
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nice. Yeah, it hit the spot. It certainly did. Very, very good.
You can find all of the submissions at no agenda art
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You know Mark Pardner TVD send something and he sent something
in other than suggestions now I don't have it. He's I think he
sent a note And but besides the one note he's got, I think it's
in two notes in and I don't know where the other one went, I'm
gonna have to read it some other time. But he is he sent in one
note that just said, do the information Mark Wagner
$1,000.01. He was at the, at the meeting now, and he wants to
Knight himself is your angel of Pasadena. Okay, so that's on the
list and everything's there. But he had some other things to say
and some commentary, and we will. I'll get that somehow back
in. We'll read it in the future, but we want to thank him
profusely for as well. And he also gave his real email
address.
I'm gonna give him a karma for that because that's very
essence. Thank you so much. Good way to start off the new year.
You've got karma.
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Yes. I'm glad that he's back from the spot. So yes, here's
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You've got
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The Forgotten Jedi $330 And I have the note.
Have to walk over here to get it. Okay.
Oh, hold on. And you got to turn off your noise gate when you do
that. Okay,
where are you there? I got, ya know,
I'm back. Sorry. All right, the notes. We're gonna pile. This is
one of our donors from the meetup. And because I got the
note and here's a good example of my way of doing things as I
go to get the notes.
Oh, shoot, man. I'm sorry, I forgot the D do. You spend D
deuced. Gotta make sure I do that.
Okay, good, dude, he's been deduced the Forgotten Jedi three
and $30 just sends a note on the back of an envelope literally
now he was also at the meetup Correct? Yes, that's why I have
a back of an envelope got it. To our guardians of reality I've
been a douchebag for too long and closes a downpayment towards
knighthood I've often wanted I've often waited on donating
for fear of tracking over the something well no longer if they
if they throw threw me into a camp so be it oh, he was here.
Well, we still didn't mentioned his name. He's still this fault
forgotten Jedi. But he's one of the paranoid listeners and
there's a lot of them in Los Angeles. Apparently. Note the
enclosed patches. Oh, ah, ah oh from a group called Nevermind
the name the runes translate to we few and the Valhalla Bill
Valhalla one for you and one for Adam. He dropped off his
military guy. He dropped off a couple of scurry patches. I'm
going to scan him in and figure out what they mean but they're
in military patches. Yeah, and they're velcro so that looks
like that type of patch you can put on temporarily right and
then when the brass come along you tear them off you know what
I mean? Yeah, of course. And I think it's like you know,
there's there were a lot of swing Crossbones and like dealt
with it I remember the soldiers that were in working with the
with the Kurds are the YPG and they were wearing their gear
yeah
the US yeah the US were guys were wearing the white wasn't
the US guys are wearing YPG I
think yeah those guys were wearing their stuff and and it
was like annoying to the to the Turks yeah became an issue. I
think there may be something going on I
scan it and I want to see it for sure.
Yeah, you have one I have one to get me to excellent. Anyway,
thanks for that the Forgotten Jedi Thank you very much for
getting given strange and Norwich, Norfolk UK 265 Happy
New Years fellas. Thanks for making 2016 So entertain me Dana
entertaining and helped me not only keep my sanity but also
develop mad skills to help with our search for the truth is
donation pushes me into my new year knighthood I'd like to be
known as Sir S. Is there anything beyond that?
I think it's sort of strange actually. But I think the Pay
Pal cut it off to me.
Onward dude. So he's also the Associate Executive Producer for
show what's 291-390-1899
Or one
I mark as Marco Strauss in Ithaca New York to 1985 and I do
not have a note from
me I did receive a couple of notes let me see if I got one
from him.
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Apparently those patches are called morale patches. Hmm.
Okay. Probably for teams. Yeah. Probably illegal assistance is
probably happy new year to the two of you you're working on New
Year's Day is highly appreciated. I hope the show
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safe space for all the suffering from imbecile media. And it
please get some jobs relationship and Green Card
comma for Green Card karma for 2017 Whatever jingles that might
be. Thanks a lot and have a great 2017 Hola best from
Ithaca, New York Marco.
So what did he want?
He wants jobs, relationship and Green Card karma? I don't know
what is the all the same? Yeah.
Okay. We'll do jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's Volker jobs.
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I'm gonna take a look at this one. I'm interested. Yeah, I'll
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Along with hoi polloi Simon has created clues forum dot info
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H bomb is not an a bomb.
The H bomb has the H bomb is triggered by an a bomb. Okay,
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you read what it is? How are we supposed to deal with it? Yeah,
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her for a while she came in with the $200 even and she says if I
can if this will open and it won't. I don't know why she's
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making the LOL at the stupid talking media heads seriously
shaking my head at the anti Russia BS that just keeps
getting deeper by the day WW three anyone? Hopefully Putin
will keep being the adult in the room and sit on his hands hoping
Trump will defuse the situation after Inauguration Day scary
shit right now. I am a Joe. Oh, may I please have a Sharpton
resists we much you as much and if you can find that old, the
old Hummer Woman Oh, is that Vivian?
No, no, no, no, no. They're from the New York Times.
That Abramson. Jill Jill Abramson. Yes. And let me see. I
don't know if we we call that did we call her the Berkeley
Hummer?
I don't know what we call her I thought was Jill aber
we must we must and we will much about that
minute I was given an indication of why and you know, public
How do you not an indication I'm just curious, I mean,
this was before we call it vocal fry. We called it the Berkeley
Hummer. That was you identify it was originally years ago yours
is terminating you and saying you no longer have a job? Don't
they have to sort of tell you specifically or not?
That you know I was told some specifics but basically mainly
what I was told that it is completely the privilege of the
publisher of the New York Times we serve at his pleasure
that's painful, painful to listen to.
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in 2017. In fact, I just received a note here, since
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it listen to this? This is a great note actually. Does. You
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Harris, listen to your podcast each week. In fact, it was Sarah
who put me on to no agenda hit him in the mouth. Nice. Sarah
just contacted me. Let me know that you're coming to Australia.
We'd love to have you on the show as a guest panelist to talk
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Well, I wouldn't mention something here. That's no
surprise that they keep up with our eyes because I had a couple
of sling boxes in Australia and I'd watched Australia news and a
lot of it was US centric. Yeah. They talked about our
well we know because we also have lots of Australian and New
Zealand. We're also going to New Zealand producers. So yeah, we
know we know people
go to meetups, you're gonna have an Australian meetup or three.
There may be church, they're gonna be multiple because they
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That's right and get your recorder out. Go and play that
in someone's face. Our formula
is this. We go out. We get people in the mouth
I am getting a few complaints about the recorder specifically.
Yeah, okay. Just the recorder though.
You're talking about the nobody's complaining about the
harmonica?
No, no, but my recorder should be arriving today from Amazon.
Oh, yeah. No, I have to show you how it's done, son. Huh?
I got here's a little entre entre month. This is to me this
epitomizes what's wrong with the media. This is a local news
report. It's called the clip name is the idiotic local
report.
Do you want any more setup? Is that it?
Yeah, you'll be a bitch after that. I'll get I'll get it.
The department tweeted this video of a police officer
pulling over an impaired driver. Grabbing the vehicle was Darth
Vader kind of scary for an officer he should know better.
And look who's a passenger is a Storm Trooper Darth Vader's
tries unsuccessfully to convince the officer he's okay to drive
the bottom line. If he can convince the police to let him
slide. Neither can you down in the bottom line. Don't drink and
drive. I had it right. That the strangest thing that officers
ever seen behind the wheel of a car. That's a good point.
And who who drove a white Hummer?
Tonight if you're heading
out so I can imagine the meeting. Guys listen. Whatever
you do tonight try and relate it to the new Star Wars movie.
First of all, it's really relatable Second of all, big bad
boy. I mean, what the hell was
beyond that? It's been that's a good complaint. But it's been
good But to me, they played it as though it's an actual news
story. This was a produced piece done by the police department.
And it was totally produced and they make it sound. Oh, you
know, cops run into all kinds of crazy people behind the wheel.
Not one person that this was produced for a purpose of
sending a message. And it was blatantly promoting the movie
rogue ones. Yes. And I just found it offensive that they
would. This is reminding me of the NORAD report of Santa. You
know, there was oh, Nora corner of Santa Fe harbor. Scramble all
jet, you know, and then they play that kind of strip, but
that's kind of a kiddie thing. This is bullcrap that they would
play this straight
or that. The NORAD thing was was funny and cute until 911, when
NORAD actually effed up and you know, we got attacked, or that's
the story. So now NORAD has like, No, he has no credibility
with me anymore. But speaking of Santa Claus, and oddly, you'd
think you know, whenever there's a terrorist attack, Germany, UK,
or France, or anywhere, this big news we're talking about all the
whole time. Now we have another NATO member who had a huge
terrorist event on New Year's Eve, and is very little of it.
Very, very little known in depth analysis. Of course, this
happened in Istanbul. And I know this, I've never been this
symbol, but I know a lot of Dutch people actually vacation
who symbol and they go to this club.
I have been to Istanbul and I have been to two areas where
there's lots of these clubs. Yeah, it's actually astonishing.
Somebody took me to this, they got to see this area. It's
astonishing how big these nightclubs are, and people are
drinking. They were Muslims who drink they make a big point of
that. That's ending.
So here's just a quick little report about what happened last
night.
We're hearing that at least 35 people have been killed and 40
people have been injured, some of them are in a critical
condition, the attack. The attack, targeted the Reina
nightclub here in Istanbul. It's close to the Bosphorus Bridge,
which you might be able to pick up behind me. It is one of the
most popular nightclubs in Istanbul indeed in Turkey. And
it happened shortly after midnight, when at least one
attacker entered the nightclub. He sprayed bullets outside the
nightclub before entering There are reports that at least one
was dressed in a Santa Claus outfit, and then entered the
nightclubs. The nightclubs spraying bullets from a
Kalashnikov rifle inside killing civilians and we understand at
least one police officer
I got to see the video of the Santa spraying bullets and this
is troubling as you know now it's Turkey has gone completely
the opposite direction of where they were. And anything that and
there were warnings about Christmas you know that we can't
have creed Don't be celebrating Christmas here Don't be doing
any of this.
And now we have they went to the trouble of dressing up in a
Santa suit to go kill everybody with a Kalashnikov I might point
out that's what they say at least this is I don't know I'd
like
to begin there's very no reporting on this I did see some
video of the FT was on RT of the of the guy in his outfit, but it
was done with a like a night vision lens. So it was as you
can see was in some sort of an outfit like a Santa Claus. But
it wasn't like a classic and he would didn't have this big
belly.
So there's no evidence note. I mean, there's dead people. I
think of dead people. But it's just the lack of reporting and
the lack of you know, this is a NATO country. I guess we did
some care anymore, or do we hadn't have no,
I think a lot of it has to do with or we're the one I'm
selfies shut down all the newspapers. There's no reporters
over there. Yeah, in fact, they're not going to get any
reporting if there's no reporters.
Well, that's I think that's the point is it they just do they
have no reporters there anymore. They're always afraid they want
to be there, which I don't I don't blame them. But a nice
couple other things happened. The new year in France a new
rule. New rule, no rules, new rules. The french french
workers. Now as of January 1, have the legal right to turn off
their smartphones outside of working hours. And this is to
make an end to the always available. worker bee.
Apparently, if you work for Amazon, whether you're doing
anything you're on call 24/7 and If you don't pick up the call a
fire, yeah.
Well, that would be illegal in France. Yeah, should be illegal
here in the US in the UK. Now, this was sad news. You remember?
I don't know how long ago this was not that long ago some guy
put bacon put a pack of bacon on a on a mosque
as a joke, and I remember this well, I'd have
been happening. It also happened in the States. But this happened
in the in the UK. And this guy got a jail sentence. Of course,
it's a hate crime. This is how the UK operates. So we got a
jail sentence for putting bacon bacon sandwich. He put bacon
bacon sandwich. Yeah, bacon sandwiches, plural, outside of
mosque. This guy was killed in jail. Holy crap. And you can
only imagine why and who killed him?
Well, yeah, I guess you would have to figure that out. And
that
is, this is this is a strange world we live in my friends.
Very strange world.
All right, well, I could do a couple of things. Sure. I can go
to the Atrazine story, I
was thinking maybe we do the Atrazine after the after the
indicee block. Because if you don't think you want to do it,
now you would want to do it. Now. I've been waiting for this.
A lot of people sent me emails. And of course, it came back to
me, I have to say I looked through all my archives,
everything could not find your clips, I see you you've got your
backup. So that's good. It's just a fascinating story. And
interestingly enough, this is something that the seed man has
been ranting about for a long time.
He does it in a ranting way that doesn't help. No career doesn't
help matters. So this will help matters. Now let's start with
the introduction, which is the intro before we meet the
professor and we have one of his students apparently has written
in Yes. It which was he said I just got to be talking about
Troy. And I said, Yeah, what turns out and he said that he
said some some links to some other research on this crap,
including some new work that are that he's done one of
your dissertation on it, right? Yeah, he
wrote something. And which indicates that another one of
the things that this material does is it creates anxiety of
the type that would require safe spaces. This stuff is the worst
stuff in the world. And it's been on the
step back one second. The reason why this topic is being
revisited really for the first time is because of Camille
Paglia the clips we played on the last show where she was
talking about transgenderism. She says it's cultural. It
indicates the end of of a cultural cultural collapse.
Other things she said it was about removing masculinity from
society, which is definitely something going on there. And
the third one was that there's this and I have a clip about
that later on about this huge machine that is enabling this
for very young children who children are confused just by
definition. And that's the I think that we all agree that's
rather problematic by you. You came and said I haven't I have a
different issue different theory, although maybe an
additional theory in that as the Atrazine.
Let's start with the end one of the last clips so you get a
feeling for this. Let's play the Atrazine seven, Michael Clayton
moment. And this refers to the movie Michael Clayton, which I
recommend everybody's view because it's a it's a truthful
rendition of what how a fixer operates.
Well, I originally I had some suspicion that they had hacked
into my email, and I originally found out there was a professor
at Minnesota. And I was going to give a big lecture and this
professor in the School of Public Health. Deb, Deb Debian,
ASCII said that she happened to be standing in line at the
airport, flying back to Minnesota. And just by
coincidence, she was standing behind somebody who was having a
conversation on his cell phone, and who identified himself as an
employee of Syngenta. And he made the statement we have
access to his email, we know where he is at all times. So it
wasn't just paranoia on my part, I had direct evidence that they
had access to my email and, and at the time, I maintain a second
and a third email that that I could keep private and I
actually use that information that they had access to my email
to send them information and sometimes false information. For
example, booking plane tickets through that email because then
I could send them to the wrong place. So they wouldn't
necessarily be there to follow me when I was going to speak in
other places.
Okay, who was behind it was after him
Syngenta, the company that makes Atrazine so let's start with the
premise. This is Atrazine one. This is the intro before we get
to talk to you with Troy.
University of California scientists have discovered that
a popular herbicide may have harmful effects on the endocrine
system. Tyrone Hayes was first hired in 1997 by a company that
later became agribusiness giant Syngenta. They asked him to
study their product their product Atrazine, a pesticide
that is applied to more than half the corn crops in the
United States and widely used on golf courses and Christmas tree
farms. But after Hayes found results that the manufacturer
did not expect that Atrazine causes sexual abnormalities in
frogs and could cause the same problems for humans, Syngenta
refused to allow him to publish his work. This was the start of
an epic feud between the scientist and the corporation.
Now a new article in The New Yorker magazine uses court
documents from a class action lawsuit against Syngenta to show
how it sought to prevent the Environmental Protection Agency
from banning the profitable chemical which is already banned
by the European Union. To start with the company's public
relations team drafted a list of four goals reporter Rachel Aviv
writes quote, the first was, quote discredit haze. In a
spiral bound notebook. Syngenta is communications manager Sherry
Ford, who referred to Hayes by his initials, wrote that the
company could prevent citing of th data by revealing him as non
credible he was a frequent topic of conversation at company
meetings. Syngenta looked for ways to exploit Hayes faults
problems. If th involved in scandal, enviros will drop him
Ford Road. Well, for more we're joined by th himself. That's
right. Tyrone Hayes is with us, Professor of Integrative Biology
at the University of California, Berkeley, joining us from the
campus TV station right now in Berkeley. Welcome to Democracy
Now. Can you tell us what happened to you how you were
originally tied to Syngenta, the research you did? And what
prevented you from originally publishing it?
How long ago is all this reporting from John?
Well, The New Yorker article came out quite some time ago.
This is This interview was about a year ago. And it this has been
going on though, and it's been reported on and off since about
19. About the year 2000. So I mean, that would this is not
news. No, but it's but it's underreported, except for except
for your buddy down the street there who talks about it and
nobody talks about? This is an underreported suppressed news
let's just put it that way. And it will continue to be so
because is apparently this product was very important to
corn crops is being used to an extreme couple mistakes. They
keep making they call it a pesticide they call it at this
they call it is that herbicide. It's a type of weed killer.
So similar to round up,
no, Roundup does it a different way it but but similar in the
fact that it apparently is a carcinogen to besides guzzling
estrogen issues.
And besides that, oh, golf courses and Christmas tree
farms. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. You know what, you know, have
you ever seen the women on golf courses? Just saying.
Well, that's why I can recommend the plastic trees.
Thing is crazy, though. That's, that's dangerous. You get to
bring that into your house.
Yeah, well, you also the real problem is the water supply
where the stuffs creeps in and the most of the Midwest and
Texas. Let's start with the with what I call a bad question. And
I'll explain why after that, too. Well,
here at Berkeley, I was a new assistant professor, I was
already studying the effects of hormones and the effects of
chemicals that interfere with hormones when amphibian
development and I was approached by the manufacturer and asked to
study the effects of Atrazine, the herbicide on frogs, and
after it stopped, discovered that it interfered with male
development and caused males to turn into females to develop
eggs. The company tried to prevent me from publishing and
from discussing that work with other scientists outside of
their panel.
What was the process within the company as you raised your
findings? So what was their immediate reaction to to what
you have come across?
Well, initially, they seem sort of supportive. We, you know, we
design more studies, we designed more analysis, and they
encouraged me to do more analysis. But as the further
analysis just supported the original finding, they became
less interested in moving forward very quickly. And
eventually they moved to asking me to manipulate data or to rep
misrepresent data. And ultimately, they told me I could
not publish or could not talk about the data outside of their
closed panel.
And Professor Hayes talk about exactly what you found. What
were the abnormalities you found in frogs, the gender bending
nature of this drug? Interesting.
I've read this does that mean they actually the frogs that
have been changed can reproduce? Yeah, they become totally
female.
Couple of things about this. When Amy comes in, she's done As
two things one she in her style of interview is, will add them
talk about. Yeah. Talk about the talk about what you know where
that comes to asking a nice question is to talk about.
I'll tell you why. That's because they had a pre interview
with some producer, the producer. Oh, he's got a great
story about the frogs. Yeah,
no, I understand that. Well, but yet everyone understands.
I'm tell I'm reiterating for the listening audience.
You're also she also calls it a drug, immediate. It's a pet.
It's herbicides. The other guy calls it a pesticide. She calls
it a drug. It's not a drug, immediate. That's what she does.
And so, and I like their use of the term gender bending. And
we'll go to the three words, we need to reiterate that is that
gender bending nature of this drug Atrazine?
Well, initially, we found that the larynx or the voice box in
exposed males didn't grow properly. And this was an
indication that the male hormone testosterone was not being
produced at appropriate levels. And eventually, we found that
not only were these males damask analyzed or chemically
castrated, but they also were starting to develop ovaries are
starting to develop eggs. And eventually, we discovered that
these males didn't breed properly, that some of the males
actually completely turned into females. So we had genetic males
that were laying eggs and reproducing as females. And now
we're starting to show that some of these males actually show I
guess, what we call homosexual behavior, they actually prefer
to mate with other males.
Now, interesting thing on this one was the voice box thing,
because I've pointed this out before there's so many males
today that have that that kind of high pitch. I think Chris
Hayes has a
is that for sure. Yeah. Kind of a high. You got to make a
decision, either. He's, he's had a vasectomy or he's been
drinking Atrazine
of the second, he's not going to change your voice. Okay, true.
This this high pitched voice when you hear when you see a lot
of interviews with the college kids that want the safe space
those people and I'm saying those people, I understand that
they have this, this voice and then you everyone says, Is this
a girl? Or is this the guy can tell from their voice? It could
say it'd be a girl with a husky or voice or even it's not even
that husky. And I believe that this coincidence is not a
coincidence. And I think there's a high pitched voice mails,
which there's tons of especially in college today, which would
have been raised from the many of them in their 20s. This has
been in the in the US since the 90s. It's just about the right
point in time for them to be, you know, coming of age with
this. Hi. I have a course high pitched voice question. So
about the frogs. It has the Atrazine has the ability to
change for frogs to gender Bender eyes? And what does it do
to female frogs and make them more female?
There was no this was never addressed. Okay. It's all about
the males. All right, onward.
And so where did you go with your research?
Well, eventually what happened was the EPA insisted that the
Environmental Protection Agency insisted that the manufacturer
release me from the confidentiality contract. And we
published our findings in pretty high ranking journals such as
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, we
published some work in nature, we publish work in Environmental
Health Perspectives, which is a journal sponsored by the
National Institutes of Health.
And when did you begin to get a sense that the company was
organizing a campaign against you? What were the signs that
you saw, post, the period when you'll be published your
findings?
Before we publish the findings, and before the EPA became
involved, the company tried to purchase the data, they tried to
give me a new contract so that they would then control the data
and the experiments, they actually tried to get me to come
and visit the company to get control of those data. And when
I refused, I invited them to the university, I offered to share
data, but they wanted to purchase the data. And then they
actually, as mentioned in the New Yorker article, they
actually hired scientists to try to refute the data or to pick
apart the data and eventually, they hired scientists that do
experiments that they claim refuted our data. And, and then
that escalated to the company actually tempesta in particular,
and others from the company coming to presentations that or
lectures that I was giving to make handouts, or to stand up
and refute the data, and eventually even lead to things
like threats of violence. Tim pester for example, before I
would give a talk with with literally threatened whisper in
my ear that he could have me lynched or he would, quote said
he would send some of his good old boys to show me what it used
to be. Or at one point he threatened my wife and my
daughter with with sexual violence. He would whisper
things like your wife's at home alone right now. How do you know
I haven't sent somebody there to take care of her isn't your
daughter there? So eventually, it really slipped into some
pretty good Pretty scary tactics,
or didn't he filed a complaint
apparently tried. It's not that easy in this recording people.
He discusses that a little bit. There was a couple of things in
here I thought was interesting though, if you just look at it
from a scientific perspective, he had the data, he had done
this research and they just hired scientists to counter the
data. In other words, do counter studies. And they was just
bought off. I mean, this, this is the kind of corruption I
believe that we're seeing with the global warming community.
And we talked to people in fact, it was exactly the same thing.
One of the guys that was at the meetup talked about his one of
his pals is like a climatologist, and he did
something that showed something that wasn't a was a kosher
margin. He was concerned he couldn't get any more contracts
to do anything unless he toed the line on global warming
climate change and, and said what you know, they want you to
say, which is what's going on right now, even if nobody
bitches about that. They bitch about the climate skeptics. So
we have an issue that's that's a societal issue. That's
problematic. I'm almost convinced now that it sounds a
little little crack potty. But I'm almost convinced now that
the global warming opinions are a test to see if it to see if
you are susceptible to being
brainwashed, or what would the test for what is the next
task to show you go like you're going to go along with the
program, you're going to be a good little boy, you're going to
be a good citizen in the global system, the global system, or
the One World Order kind of new world orders kind of thing.
That's just my thinking. Right?
But I'm just saying so do that. Do that on individual basis, or
a country basis? Which country is all in? I mean, you if you go
all the way,
I think it's all all of the above. And who was they? They is
the big giant, there's the elites, the people, we're
talking about the people that that David Icke likes to cite,
as running everything that people that live to be 100 years
old, effortlessly. The queen, David Rockefeller, these guys
are live forever. I won't go as far as saying the lizard people.
But I could, yeah, they can have a show. We can skip the long
clip, which is the optional. It's about the corruption of the
system.
I don't mind hearing it, actually. I mean, we're, we're a
little late for our segment. But this is very interesting. We've
been waiting for it for a long time. So he's gonna talk about
the general corruption in the scientific community,
I think, yeah, more or less.
So what did you do? I mean, you're actually I mean, this is
very serious. You can bring criminal charges if you're being
threatened and stalked in this way. Well,
initially, I went to my vice chancellor here at the
university, I went to my dean, I went to legal counsel here at
the university. And I was told by legal counsel that I was
told, first of all, by the Vice Chancellor for Research at the
time, that while you publish the work, it's over. So I don't
understand what the problem is. And I tried to impress upon her,
Beth Burnside at the time that you know that but it wasn't over
that I was really being pursued by the manufacturer. And
eventually, when I spoke with the lawyer here at the
university, I was told that, well, I represent the university
to like protect the university from liability. You're kind of
on your own. And, and I remember I looked at him and I said, but
the very University from the Latin University toss is a
collection of scholars of teachers and students. So who is
this entity, the university that you represent? That doesn't
include me?
Is this a Berkeley? Yeah, yeah, Cal Berkeley. Nice, but
clearly, there's some entity that that doesn't really include
us, the professors and students and doesn't really protect
academic freedom. I think the way that it should. I wanted
to ask you about one of your critics, Elizabeth Whelan,
president of the American Council on Science and Health,
when the New York Times ran a critical story about the
herbicides part of its toxic water series in 2009. She
referred to its reporting as quote all the news that's fit to
scare. This is a clip of Waylon from an interview on MSNBC.
I very much disagree with the New York Times story, which is
really raising concerns about a totally bogus risk. Atrazine has
been used for more than 50 years. It's very, very tightly
regulated. Even the Environmental Protection Agency
which is not known for soft peddling about the environmental
chemicals, even they say it's safe.
Turns out that Syngenta has been a long term financial supporter
of wetlands organization, the American Council on Science and
Health, paying them at least $100,000. Your comments on on
her remarks?
Well, again, they're paid remarks and one of the most
disheartening things in this whole process is that many of my
critics, it's wanted to be academic. If you come and say,
well, we interpreted the data this way and we want to argue
about this point, but these people really didn't even have
an opinion. There's these opinions were written by the
manufacturer and they were paid to put their names on them to
endorse the opinions of the manufacturer. So, you know,
that's one of the most disheartening things is that
they were really just personalities for sale. And many
of the things that she's saying there's just not true there's
any independent study from any scientists is not funded by
Syngenta has found similar problems with Atrazine, not just
my work on frogs, but I've just published a paper with 22.
Scientists from around the world from 12 Different countries who
have shown that Atrazine causes sexual problems in mammals and
that Atrazine causes sexual problems in birds, amphibians,
fish, so it's not just my work and amphibians and amphibians.
And also with regards to the EPA, one of the scientific
advisory panel members on the EPA that was supposed to review
Atrazine turns out is paid and works for Syngenta. So the whole
process was tainted. And in fact, the EPA ignored the
scientific advisory panel's opinion and actually decided to
keep Atrazine in the market and not to do any more studies when
it clearly wasn't the recommendation of the scientific
advisory panel.
What I'm missing here where's the study on mice? Isn't my
supposed to be the the closest to human
test subjects? That I know we have a student a student is work
with Troy we can find out yeah, I'd like to know I'd like they
weren't doing anything on mice. He started off this whole thing
is about this frog study and the rest of its, you know, secondary
and I think there's probably been suppressed to this sounds
like a lot of suppression going on because there's a lot of
money being made. I also to get the sense that some people don't
give a crap. And you mentioned the last show that Keith Paglia
is talking about the war on men this is perfect that the
chemical castration what's gonna be better
is literally chemical castration Yeah. Oh my this is disturbing.
Very disturbing. All right onward with a little shorter
clip on the on the another little side effect of this crap.
I mean, Professor Hayes This is stunning stuff that came out in
this class action suit. The suit wasn't brought by you. But the
documents that came out that referenced you Tyrone Hayes T H
and trying to discredit you trying to discredit your family
talk but then that was a lawsuit that involved Atrazine
contaminating water supplies. But what was your reaction when
you saw this? You suspected this you felt you were being
followed? You felt you were they were trying to discredit you?
But now you had the documents?
You know, Tyrone should do you should call racism. Racist you
just racist because I'm a black professor you don't want to hear
that's got to do something.
I will mention what one thing is an aside? Yeah, well, I'm gonna
have to go meet the guys over here. I can just go go check
out.
Why did you meet our producer at the same time, I'd really love
to hear what he has to say this is fantastic.
And, and this is a result of something I've warned people
about, they have to know about, I guess corporations are
careless. And other people are too. This is a process called
discovery. He found out about all this stuff against him only
because of this lawsuit about the water supply in some area
that's not discussed. And then when discovery happened, said,
Hey, look at your mansion. This happened with me. And when I was
on a Mac Microsoft blacklist, which happened through a
discovery process, and somebody sent me a bunch of documents
saying hey, look, you're mentioned. And and this is the
thing about discovery when his lawyers get the get the word
that they can start taking documents, they take everything.
And whatever's in there you if you wrote it down, you got some
issues.
And if you don't produce a you're in big trouble. Right,
exactly. stek just sent me a link to a page on the nih.gov
exposure of mice to Atrazine and it's metal light, dye di m in no
Calaca could do elicits oxidative stress and endocrine
disruption. endocrine disruption, I think is what we
were talking about here.
Yeah. And so let's finish this because there's little tidbit at
the end of this one.
Which one is that
John does the estrogen when you were playing?
It was over? That was the end of the clip. Oh, then you
know, you you played clip six with estrogen. Oh,
I'm sorry. No, I was seven. I apologize here.
So you played the wrong clip. That's why the discovery I'm so
sorry. Okay, here's six.
The Novartis not only made Atrazine, which is used on corn,
of course, which is an herbicide, but it also induces
an enzyme called aromatase that causes you to make too much
estrogen. And it's now been shown that this herbicide
atrazine and this mechanism is potentially involved in the
development of breast cancer for example, up until 2000, that
company also made a chemical called letrozole, which did
exactly the opposite. It blocked aromatase had blocked this
enzyme and blocked estrogen production and its chemical
letrozole is the number one treatment for breast Cancer. So
this company was simultaneously in 2000, making a chemical that
induced estrogen and promoted breast cancer and making a
chemical that blocked estrogen production and was being used to
treat breast cancer. So there's a clear conflict of interest
there a clear problem. The other problems are that something like
90% of the seeds that we use to produce our food right now are
owned by the Big Six pesticide companies. So again, there's a
conflict of interest where the companies have an interest in I
guess, getting as addicted to the pesticides to grow the seeds
that they also own. And suggest Of course, it's one of those big
six one of the big pesticide or agribusiness companies.
So man,
that's unbelievable.
The food supply of this country is poisoned
my god for 25 years,
they've been growing babies and cows, right? It is poison in
question. Can you filter this out with a with a good water
filter?
Can you filter the accuracy of your water supply? As you
probably Texas and might be a concern? I don't think we have
it in our water supply. And in the California, it's it's mostly
where they grow lots of corn. We do grow corn, but we're not the
corn. So that's Indiana, Indiana. Oh, they've all Midwest
states that that whole belt of states down into Texas, there's
a map available if you do enough looking how about
the Carolinas I got a lot of corn there?
I don't think so.
Well of science trying to explain Lindsey Graham.
Science is isn't Trump's real sciences, because in so much
trouble. I mean, I don't talk to him anymore. The professor the
brain professor was now at Stanford, you know, the P values
is pretty much all F MRIs are now in question because the
image just the scientist just noodling around with the P
values. Though I don't like the results, I'll change this a
little bit and move that up and down. And something very
disturbing came across my desk if you're done with the Atrazine
because this we'll move on a little bit.
I think everyone's kind of the fan. And I wanted to that's a
good clip to play before the next segment, because it does
talk about how the commercial interests have tainted and
tainted the coverage of this story. This story is not a news
story. No, never gonna hear about it. And
I'm also sure that universities don't want to do too much that
you know, to step on their money, you know, the money for
these for these studies comes from the companies themselves.
So this is a very, very, very twisted, messed up situation.
Over up over the Christmas holiday, I was talking to one of
my Millennials here in Austin. And this millennial said, you
know, I think I finally found a good information source that I
trust. And I do remember we talked about this and the end as
well, which one is that Time Magazine? Now, I didn't say
anything, just like just let that go. But Time Magazine is to
me, is shite. And I want to accentuate that in this
particular topic about science. This is the editor. I know if
it's the editor in chief. He's on CBS and he's with the what
they're talking about is again, Trump asking for names of people
who went to the climate summit. But he says something in here
about science, which we I will stop the clip when it's time,
which blew my mind that he could say it. The rapper editor from
Time magazine could say and that no one and no one questioned
what he was saying. Jeffrey Kluger Time magazine's editor at
large Jeff,
do you know him? Jeffrey Kluger? No, no, no. Very good morning.
Good morning. First of all,
how concerned is the scientific community about the changes in
the administration? The community
is concerned and it should be concerned look, Global Learning
mark is established fact. It's immutable. It's non negotiable.
Okay, stop right there. He says global warming is an immutable
fact. Immutable means cannot change will not change cannot
change in the future. Science, by definition, is not immutable.
Well, the other thing is not immutable. This is based on a
computer model. If you remember the computer model first showed
us the hockey stick, which turned out to be bogus, had to
change the computer model to get rid of it. And then the computer
model wasn't calling out the right numbers. So they had to
correct many of these numbers. And that's what climate gate
came about. Actually. was the largest response. I think that
was the biggest hit. They had. I think it still hurts them. Yes.
But even though they're fighting it within memos that went back
and forth, oh God, we gotta fudge these numbers because
they're not coming up right now is any of that immutable?
But I cannot believe that an editor at large for a Time
Magazine has the balls. To use a big word immutable, you're using
the word so you know what it means? A mutable means cannot
change in the future kids science is always changeable.
Can I throw something in please? A sincere by?
No. But I don't understand how you
did the test. Oh, yeah. Part of the test? Well, I just
think that CBS and this prefer everyone should be ashamed for
not saying Hold on a second. Science is not immutable ever.
They're not
allowed to this is like it was as we witnessed on PBS. They're
not allowed to they on the PBS reports. Anytime there's
clients, you know, they always have the two guests that like
they look debate a little bit, maybe not so much. But
sometimes, sometimes they have a three guests, when they bring a
climate guy in to talk about global warming. It's always one
guy.
But this is not a climate guy. This is an editor. There will
one guy,
the community is concerned and it should be concerned, look,
global warming is an established fact. It's immutable. It's non
negotiable. It's not subjected to politics, global warming,
doesn't read tweets, it doesn't care about who won the electoral
college vote. It's an immutable bit of science. And what we're
seeing, again, it's
an immutable bit of science. All science is not immutable. I'm
sorry, I can't get over this is
what we're seeing is an administration that is choosing
to appoint people who are hostile to that very idea, who
at best will dodge it by saying, Well, I'm not a scientist, I
don't know. Well, then listen to the scientists 97% of whom say
that global warming is real.
No, I'm sorry. That is not true. That's a lie. It's a lie. It is
an outright lie.
Who says that Time Magazine is a viable source of information.
One of our
producers know one of my Millennials was someone who
listens to the show. Well, yeah, yeah, this is I do this as a
public service.
I'm not a scientist, I don't know. Oh, well, then listen to
the scientists 97% of whom say that global warming is real lie.
That's just a blatant
lie.
Once you explain it real quick, then
the 97% number refers to people who wrote positively about
global warming, saying it was real. And they drew done papers,
and they stayed they asked all these people, what do they think
that global warming is real based on their own work? Which
is all positive? Pushing it? Yes, yes, yes. There's global
warming. And they can only get 97% of these people who already
believed in it do agree with him with the premise, which is like
ludicrous.
And it was only a water like a handful of reports. Yeah. In a
global scale. Yeah. Yeah. So they just keep pushing that
mean,
listen to the scientists, 97% of whom say that global warming is
real. It's happening, and it's a deadly threat.
And by the way, it wasn't that they said global warming is
real. They said manmade global warming is real.
Right. And then nobody said anything about a deadly threat
that wasn't in the survey, no,
editor at large editor at large. Really, thank you for pointing
out the deadly thread that wasn't in there, either
scientist,
I don't know. Well, then listen to the scientists 97% of whom
say that global warming is real. It's happening, and it's a
deadly threat.
Jeffrey, what about the discrepancy between the agency
heads and the 1000s of civil servants who actually staff
these agencies and have done a large part of the climate work
for the Obama administration? Well,
this is what we're seeing. And there is some hope here, because
a lot of these people are lifetime civil servants. They
have the power of slow down, they have the power of, for lack
of a better term, passive aggression of force. They're
required to obey their superiors. But there is work
that's done zealously in pursuit of a good cause. And then
there's work that's done grudgingly. And there's a quiet
power in civil servants here. But we're seeing some danger
already. The Trump transition committee has already sent a 74
question questionnaire to the Department of Energy, which they
push back on, though they push back on Yes. And that's a good
thing. They said these are civil servants doing their jobs. So
no, we're not going to give you the names of people who attended
un conferences on climate change. We're not going to give
you the names of people who have studied the social cost of
carbon because that's an important study. And these
people are doing their jobs but it still will have a chilling
effect.
So they're gonna slow down Really what are we now?
communist Soviet Union? What are we doing? We're gonna slow down
haha we have power we're gonna go real slow
well you know my attitude. Go ahead. My attitude is if you're
a civil so you're working for the government you should do
nothing.
Why why is that your attitude?
Because you had ever you do screws things up
just by doing nothing, no doing nothing
doesn't screw things up
well, the social cost of carbon is something we got to keep our
eyes oh the social cost of carbon and if it's 97% of all
all scientists, how is that immutable? Then clearly
someone's immune getting it? Oh, that's a good point. That's a
good gotcha percent are muting it? Yeah. But it's immutable.
It's immutable. We only do things that are simple to figure
out people. Time magazine editor at large, not the smartest one.
And probably never had any science in his background at
all.
very doubtful. All right, one little entre mom before we hit
the C Block. Okay, this is Oh, no, actually, I'm sorry. I'm
sorry. I have I Will not I gotta do that later. I can do it after
that. Because it's too long. I want Yeah, but you know what,
why don't we just
reset you did the climate thing I get to do a climate. Good.
Just the opposite side of this whole thing because we're all in
on global cooling. Let's hear the latest global cooling report
from the media. New Year's global cooling report.
Yes, thank you New Year's global cooling report.
Parts of the Northeast are still digging out tonight after the
first big snowstorm of the season that caused numerous
accidents and left 1000s without power. Morgan Radford reports on
the challenges going into this year's New Year's weekend.
Tonight, millions of Americans scrambling to clear the streets
unless you have to go out don't bother going out and stuff that
makes
life easier for us
in upstate New York plows clearing up to eight inches of
snow after the first major storm of the season. clobbered the
Northeast is coming down pretty hard. It's very difficult to see
almost 100,000 People in Maine without power, which officials
say may not come back for days gone to a bad state saw more
than two feet of snow more than a foot in parts of New
Hampshire. Tonight responders trying to prevent this. The
aftermath of a forceful 24 hours here in New Hampshire. You can
see melting snow still covering the streets. This is something
officials warn can quickly turn to ice as soon as the
temperature drops dangerous streets under harsh conditions.
There's such slow visibility that is very very hard to even
tell what lanes you're supposed to be driving in
residents hoping to end the year with a different type of thing.
Morgan Radford, NBC News, Concord, New Hampshire.
Gonna have to see a different man when the ocean rises. Just
this one. This whole area we'll hear what?
You gotta get your heads around. That's right, everybody. Just
remember.
The sciences?
No, all right. We closed the gate we done? Yeah, I hope so.
I'm gonna show my school by Jonah did no agenda. Imagine all
the people who could do that? Oh, yeah, that'd be fun
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right everybody time once again for tech news, tech. Hornies.
Can't do what we do because we are the true tech journalists.
Actually one of our producers, sir cold Calista caught
something which we didn't catch. And this was the story about the
sea. I have it You're still about the Amazon. Alexa. Yeah.
And the murder case. Right? Let me just see. Let me get this
clip because we need to play the clip again. Because he he caught
something I was blown away that he caught that and I want to do
with this clip go here we go. Listen to this and tell me if
you can figure out the interesting part about this.
Remember, it's about Amazon
Amazon's popular home assistant echo better known as Alexa was a
best seller this Christmas. Now police in Bentonville, Arkansas
hope Alexa can help solve a real life who done
it till we don't have to play much more of the clip. This is a
story an anti Amazon story coming out of Bentonville,
Arkansas once again Ville, Arkansas. I don't know Walmart.
Thank you. It is the headquarters of Walmart. The
number one competitor to Amazon pretty much I'd say that kind of
nails it down.
Yeah, it's another corrupt story more areas me
very, very corrupt story.
I sketchy story.
But the best clip I have with Amazon Alexa went viral. I know
you haven't seen it is a little kid. And he's talking into the
little Amazon dot and the kid is asking you it's hard to
understand the kid because he's like, I like that. Burn dead
dead dead. It's asking for something like somebody wants
Alexa to play something for the kid. What Alexa then does is
hilarious. Barbie can you talk to play well,
you want to hear a station for porn detected porno ringtone hot
chick amateur girl dildo ringtone Alexa, stop.
I love that clip. It's very funny.
I didn't know you could control I didn't know you could listen
to porn on Alexa. You want to hear porn detective with dildos
and lesbians are fabulous. Very, very good.
Did you have any any tech news you want to share with the
group?
I mentioned? I have to.
I have two more. I have two more here.
I don't want to have any tech news at all.
Okay, I have another Amazon, which is just one of these
stories and it's end of the year or beginning of the year. I
cannot believe that anyone is taking this seriously. When you
think of blimps, you probably picture the Goodyear blimp,
maybe the Greenpeace blimp, a border security blimp, or even
the Hindenburg. When Amazon thinks of blimps, it sees a
warehouse in the sky. A patent for what Amazon calls an aerial
fulfillment center includes drawings of how stuff you buy
would be warehoused in the air, then delivered to your home by a
drone dropped from the blimp, a shuttle with dock in the air to
return the drone, kill my husband workers and resupply the
warehouse Scott Hamilton is an aviation industry consultant for
Lee ham company. When we sent him the Amazon patent story he
zeroed in on the potential altitude of the blimps 45,000
feet.
You have commercial airliners flying at 41,000 feet, some
could go to 43 but then they just have these drones floating
down through all the traffic lanes is just loony.
Amazon is testing drones earlier this month. The company said it
made the first primary delivery to a customer in England 13
minutes after his purchase in this country. The FAA is writing
rules for drone package delivery. Today an agency
spokesperson wrote to Cairo seven that the FAA expects to
propose a rule for public comment early in 2017 for
commercial drone use above some people the FAA says they will
also propose a rule next year for flying drones beyond the
sight line of the pilot.
Which of course is something that is now a rule in the United
States you can just fly it without the operator seeing it
this is such bull crap this is total insanity
is the stunt to get them name Amazon out there even more I
know but total publicity stunt and the news media slapping it
up and they're not getting paid to run the store. down there's
no doubting that this is a native ad I'm more convinced
that they're just stupid.
I think so too. I just think they're stupid. And now listen
to this because of course what happens with all of this great
technology and robotics and AI is no one will have a job
anymore. Someone will have money to have Amazon drones drop stuff
off. CNBC had a conversation about the future of jobs when it
comes to artificial intelligence and robotics in the workplace.
So their conclusion with this expert is fabulous.
So we moved now from Stephen livan China to Amazon on robots,
and they are implementing robots and the use of them at a rapid
rapid pace. But economists have been arguing that jobs and
automation actually go the sounds counterintuitive hand in
hand. Yvonne in on this, she has the details. Hey, Hilary. Hey,
Connell will economist we talked to you said artificial
intelligence technology could create jobs of the future that
look a little different than jobs of today, but they'll pay a
lot more.
So what the data actually says is that even though we're at
about a 6%, job loss today through automation, by 2021,
we're going to have eliminated a net 1% More jobs. So it's not a
huge 6% loss between now and then it's about a 1% change is
jobs are lost due to automation, and created a new industries
through automation as well.
Today, companies like Uber, Netflix and Amazon are on the
frontlines of what analysts call digital disruption because
they're matching supply and demand through digital platforms
and making old ways obsolete. So what are your options? If your
job is phasing out? Well, you can either retrain and rescale
yourself for a job in an industry that economists say is
growing because of AI technology.
Oh, what do those jobs be? I asked you John C. Dvorak.
server server at McDonald's clothes.
Remember, these are great jobs. These are great job jobs. And
for anyone who's young, and listening to our show, these are
great jobs. Are you ready for your great jobs?
A guy who goes around with his little scraper and picks up GM
economists say is growing because of AI technology, which
is the healthcare sector. Or you can try something different
altogether. They also say they're seeing an increase of
people using skills that they already had to do something
else, like driving an Uber car or becoming a dog walker, and
mobile apps have changed the game and opened up a lot more
job opportunities.
So there you go. That's your future driving Uber or a dog
walker.
Yeah, there's a great job. My daughter's a dog walker.
Yeah. Is it a great job?
I'll tell you this month, she puts on like 12 miles a day.
Oh, there's that but and I apologize profusely and she
likes
walking the dog. She's a dog person.
That's not a future though. For her. She doesn't realize she's
doing it. All right. I apologize profusely to everyone whose echo
device we triggered with that last report. So I would like to
say, Alexa, play the latest episode of the no agenda,
podcast. Boom.
Good phones, a landline and the phone should be made out of
Bakelite. Right,
that's your tech news for today. Bye. Bye bye.
Now what we've got to do I'm gonna have to do on the next
show move it up. Was that Adam Kay or defense attorney who
donated to the show that that thing I hadn't put all the site
but I never sent the information to Eric so he didn't get
mentioned with this $500 donation. I will do it. Let's do
it. Thursday. I'm gonna do it Thursday, and I'm just looking
at Yeah, okay, good. Anyway, sorry. Yeah.
Okay, we are, we're gonna run a little long, John. So if you
want to play a couple more things, we should probably
regret it.
I got a little hard you know that the Russian Exodus is a
funny little report from our tea. Because apparently they
also shut down a lot of the San Francisco operation the
Russians, and they got rid of their guests. They got rid of
the one of the most important guys it must have been a spy. If
you've been watching a lot of Steven Seagal movies, you might
think that let's play the RT report on diplomat Exodus.
More details are emerging concerning the Obama
administration's latest sanctions against Russia for
allegedly influencing November's presidential election 35 Russian
diplomats were given 72 hours to leave the US and among them is
the head chef at the Russian consulate in San Francisco,
to have to say goodbye to close to a dozen of our colleagues or
friends. They will fly back to Russia on December 31. Meeting
the new year while in flight. The three kids will not see
Santa. They have only one day to finalize their financial affairs
terminate their apartment leases pack their belongings, as well
as to prepare for the long trip. Why did it all happen? They were
qualified as intelligence operatives, bizarre and
ridiculous. One of the people who was expelled has been the
chef of the consulate.
As part of retaliation for alleged Russian hacking
diplomats in America were also asked to vacate to holiday homes
although no specific reason was given. One of those is located
in Long Island in New York.
Okay, but I'm reminded of the Steven Seagal movie, which just
oh, I'm shipping just to cook. I'm just the code. Hey, like
there were is a Buzzfeed article of all things that came out that
a lot of people sent to me and I thought it might be fun because
we've talked about the Dutch, how when they speak English,
they come across as rude harsh, and I have some of that still
even you claim. Oh, yeah, you do in money and how I speak. Yeah.
And they as a Buzzfeed listed 17, deeply satisfying Dutch
insults we need in English. And these are insulted people do use
in everyday life. Sometimes even on television, it's these are
not considered horrible. interesting about them is that a
lot of them? The genesis of them is from hundreds of years ago.
And I thought maybe we'd run through these so you can have a
little laugh about Dutch language.
Well, that's funny meshes because I do have one little
commentary about these old usages that I think need to be
revisited. Okay. What do you got? Well, for when Mimi and I
were talking about something, and if somebody was drunk, and
she made the comment, I'm buddy or Mimi, who was it? Now she was
she never gets drunk. said the person had a snoot fool. Oh, and
I realized that that's something my parents used to say. And we
laughed about it, because her parents used to say snoot fool
to the other one, which is that I was an ant attack as usual. It
happens. And these ants got into the soy sauce. Oh, and I
immediately reference to the fact that there's ants in the
soy sauce in the zoo with little soy sauce. Baldy has got the
poor thing the top two Chinese style. Yeah. And she and I both
recognize the old usage. The term that just completely out of
favor, but I think it'd be brought back my dad used to say
to her dad used to say it. The reference to soy sauce was
always bug juice,
who
my dad would say pass the bug juicy. I
don't bug juice when I was growing up was kind of this,
like shitty kool aid that you had at a picnic and was like a
big batch. And it was like it was watery. That was bug juice
on a budget. And then if you think about the soy sauce, it's
kind of like, it looks like but you can see it being bugged
juice. But bug juice, I think it'd be something we should
bring back.
Well, let's let's start with the with the first one here, which I
have. I've used this on the show before the first word is meat or
no sugar, which literally means an ant fucker, of course implied
to be as a nitpicker. But you know, mediocre is and people say
this all the time. overwrought sock scoundrel or literally
because all of these are literal a rotten sack. Then we have my
favorite smear lop, which means literally a grease rag. But of
course it means dirt bag. Now, this one is you so frequently
critical and and I think parents will even say this to their
children sometimes that could the cop. It literally means
vagina face.
What's it referring to?
If you're just doing more like douchebag but it's kind of it's
lost a lot of its meaning. But there it is. Then we have closed
suck. Which is literally a testicle sack. We have Bartolo
This is my favorite though you are a big part of Lille, which
is a horse dick. Then this one comes from hundreds of years
ago, polluters layer, tuberculosis suffer. And it's
often used by ag craft a Pluribus which means go get
tuberculosis.
I see that word pleurisy in the in there as a part of the route.
Isn't that tuberculosis? pleurisy? Yes, Morrissey?
Tuberculosis. And this is like, hey, go get tuberculosis. You're
upon a cook, which means you're a pancake. You are a dose? Yeah,
this is Oh, you only use this for women. Now she is she's a
dose and D O S and that literally means she's a box
CommScope Of course, cheesehead. We have up tiefen optifine. Now,
this is another one of those old ones, which means literally go
and get typhoid.
Hmm. Because they wish you ill. Yes, yes. Yes. And yeah. And
then maybe wishing you Ill go get sick. Yeah.
The interesting the Dutch do that. Goodwife which means
vagina woman and mosquito which means a crazy kettle as in tea
kettle. And then the final one, which has to be my favorite off
collective both at home. And this refers to someone who has
had a lot of sex, literally an overlooked sandwich.
That would be the same as slut.
Yeah, yeah. But you can also use it for men.
So What can be used for men to
Yeah, why no you can say afflict the both of them all right. I
useful I thought you would like it more but I guess
I think they do. Well. How much would you like it? I think
there's a couple in there that can be made into little screams
Ooh, yeah. Don't you think?
Yes.
Me to no grip well we'll work with the with Fletcher
Fletcher does the screams okay. Yeah,
let's even get Fletcher do that it'd be fun.
A couple of choice ones. I wasn't offensive.
Yeah, right. I only have one last thing I'd like to share
with the group but if you want to play something before we can
do that,
well let me see where we got the good short game move this I can
move these
I'm gonna move this Thursday to this is gonna be
moved. He's gonna be moved. I'm gonna I'm gonna move these to
Thursday. What do you what do you what are you moving? So I
know what are you moving? I'm moving second half a show no
radio signals, which have been good and okay, I'm moving the
train. aliens coming to kill us all.
I'm moving the transgender segment to the Thursday as well.
I got a fake news in Germany. I was in Archie's story, which is
about fake news. And he goes, Do we have a Assange agenda?
barnacles?
Let's do let's do the Assange. Let's do that one. That'll get
everybody bent out of shape. As if it was a bit jet did the
Guardian decided to do fake news story on what Assange had to say
do it with an interview. I think it was with Glenn Greenwald.
Yes, Greenwald ripped him apart for this, I
think. Yes.
The British newspaper The Guardian has been heavily
criticized for publishing a summary of an interview with
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, which selectively
edited his quotes. The interview was originally given to the
Italian outlet their Republica and misleading publication went
viral on social media will another outlet be intercepted
write an article explaining why the Guardians report was
actually false news and we can take a closer look at its
findings here. First of all, it disprove the fact that Assange
gave so called guarded praise of Donald Trump saying he neutrally
described his predictions for the US election. The second
point highlighted was Assange, his long term relationship with
Vladimir Putin with the only evidence provided his eight
interviews he did with us here on RT Julian Assange has been
branded a Moscow stooge before her some have even called him a
useful idiot for appearing on RT he was also accused of being
Putin's puppet after WikiLeaks released documents damaging to
Hillary Clinton's campaign.
Yeah, yeah. And the Guardian, shame on them, shame on them for
doing that.
This is all part of the giant I would say I wouldn't call it a
conspiracy. It's just that agreement of gentleman's
agreement. They're all gonna go after all this stuff. Give it to
give it to Russia. They're horrible. For some reason. We
don't know why, but they're gonna keep keep up this this
nonsense. And this just corrupting all media. I mean,
these guys, everybody's bent out of shape about Trump winning and
this not ending this is gonna continue to be bad. This is
gonna be a great year for the no agenda show.
And you will be part of it. Everybody listening? It will be
a fabulous year. It's gonna be funny, too. I'm thinking. And I
have some Yeah, we're gonna have some laughs
Yeah, yeah. And I don't think he's gonna calm down anytime
soon. No, no, no. Especially with the guys I did. David Korn
ended up on the PBS NewsHour that shows we ever since I've
done it know how it happened. But when Glen died, yeah, sudden
your eyes just the boat is tilted.
And that is your deconstruction for today, everybody. This is
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