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podcasting 2.0 for October
15 2021, Episode 58 we got

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activity in the pub. It's all
the work I have to do on Fridays

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just come up with the opening
Hello everybody's I'm once again

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the only official board meeting
and you're all welcome. I'm Adam

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Curry here in the heart of Hill
Country Texas and then Alabama

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the man who can make a wallet
with drop shadow in a heartbeat

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my friend on the other end
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Dave

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Jones.

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Drop Shadow blink tag.

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Blink tag. Everybody's favorite
the blink tag

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was marquee what not the one
that like, like,

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didn't that scroll and scroll?
Yeah, scroll.

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The horizontal scroll. Yeah.

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Yeah, that was the days of red
GIF, red dot red ball dot GIF

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that's what it was a red ball
budget

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or the this page is under
construction with

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a little guy working with a
shovel Yes,

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that's what that that little guy
should be on every single thing

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that we have right now. under
construction. Yeah.

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Yeah, I do remember that. Even
corporate clients where should

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we have an under construction
page? Well, no, let's get a real

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website up. No, no, we weren't
under construction page. Okay.

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My kids say that should do.

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Yeah. Yeah, that's impressive.
That list had been you know,

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you're working on it.

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Doing Dave today is a tough day
for you in the in in real life.

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Yeah, yeah, we're the firm our
workforce tied to the accounting

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industry. So

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yeah. I went to the post office
because you know, last year's

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return that had really messed me
up

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with this you know, with
everybody nobody knew what was

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that?

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Yeah with the Snowmageddon so
they cashed a check but they

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they never acknowledged Well,
they acknowledge receipt of our

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filing, which I sent in on paper
and Well, whatever it is when we

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bought the house and they were
doing you know, the typical

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background search they said
well, you need to prove that you

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filed taxes last two years I
didn't have it for the last year

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there was no proof and you can
go to the irs.gov and get a

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transcript Yeah, yeah

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transcript Exactly. And so that
didn't exist and that was a real

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hassle but I was able to show
the check that was cashed and I

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say well, that's okay then and
so when I want to file I always

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do Turbo Tax which is perfect
for our situation. And you know,

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you have to have a correlation
to last year's gross adjusted

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income and that's an exact
number and that's how they match

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it to your filing properly and
that is you and a PIN code and

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none of that crap work so
alright, I'll print it out Yeah,

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you know 100 pages take it off
to the P o box and a whole bunch

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of people and they're all there
like they all want to tracking

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they all want to see the
postmark go on it you know we're

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all laughing in line like we
don't trust these guys anymore.

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Oh man it's like the IRS last
year they just left yeah they

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just gave up right here they
were like alright we're going

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home and whoa wait what we still
do things it was it was talking

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last year

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right so this is probably quite
a hassle still

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yeah it's just still well i mean
you get it's PPP cares act stuff

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there's you know there's health
care lots health care money went

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out in various ways is actually
still going out so you got to

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account for that it was just I
mean I'm not an accountant but

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the you know, but I'm here
enough accounting accounting

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stuff to know that it's just
been a complete headache the

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people the people who have been
saying forever that oh well you

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know what you can become in a
day where you will you'll just

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be able to fill out your taxes
on a postcard

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as long as I've been alive of
her that one yeah should be just

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just one postcard size just tick
tick tick tick you're good to go

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no problem.

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Haha yeah, it'll be fun. It'll
be fun. Yeah, this way rose

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laughing because some you know
some of the younger accountants

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there oh they're always afraid
that when they hear things like

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that like no some but so and so
this President is gonna simplify

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the tax code. Oh man. I'm
worried about my job and

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everybody's like haha

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oh yeah. won't have a job.
That's funny.

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I've heard this since the 60s.

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Meanwhile, Bitcoin number go up
like crazy.

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Oh, yeah, man is that thing?

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Yeah, let me check. My eyes are
bad. 61,004 13 Yeah, that's

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moving towards an 80 h Bay.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What is
The eth is 6063 s

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62 eight or something, I think
63 but it's already above the

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weekly top. So I think it'll
probably I mean there's a

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resistance at 63 in a bid or
something.

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It sounds a day trader ish. Oh,
I liked it. Well, this

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is why this is what I did. I day
traded for two years. And I

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hated it. I mean, I know
actually loved the analysis.

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Because it was all technical
trading. It was scalping, you

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know, like you held the stock
for maybe a minute. Yeah. And

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like, boom, okay, got the pop
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You're using your Fibonacci and
you're hitting

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Oh, my God, oh, way more than
that. You've got the oscillating

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waves, you've got, oh, my God, I
forgotten so much. But I still

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have all my models. And so I
have a couple of models applied

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to a weekly chart of Bitcoin. So
I can see the main resistance

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levels and you know, where it
has to break through and that

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that stuff on Bitcoin is
actually quite beautiful for

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technical analysis.

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It is pure, it's just pure. It
is.

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It's just, you know, yeah,
there's manipulation from people

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who are buying or selling. But
that kind of, you know, there

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are models that that know about
that. So it's pretty good. I

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don't trade. I just in fact,
I've, we've switched just to

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daily cost average. 100 bucks.
That's it. No big buys on dips

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or anything. Just every day.
Boop, boop, boop, boop, just a

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little bit. And,

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yeah, that's kind of the way I
do it. Every time I like, once a

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month, I just Yeah, same thing.
Yeah. Whatever in whatever I'm

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comfortable with. And then like,
over time, you look back and

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you're like, oh, wow, I've
actually built up, you know,

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yeah, well,

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how about the stats? The SAS,
we've been stacking on the

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index.

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Yeah, that's good. That's gonna
so you want to talk about the,

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about the node that Tim set up?
Yeah. Yeah, I did what we're

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doing with it,

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no, but it's gonna be great.
Let's talk, let's, let's want to

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explain what we're doing.

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Well, so Tim, and Ellen pay, he
set us up a dedicated LNP

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instance, for the index. And so
we've been working with him for

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a while on this to get it up and
running. And he's got it up and

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run and we've got your keys and
everything set up in the the

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original idea was was that we
will help onboard people into,

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into Elon, Elon pay, but it'll
be our instance, rather than

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his. And that'll let us do some,
some interesting things, some

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more, more detailed type of type
of stuff. So there's stuff

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specific to you know, podcasting
and what we're doing. And so

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the, the sort of blanket idea
here is that on podcast or

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wallet, you will go in there and
claim your feed. And then you'll

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be able to launch wallets for
things like guests. That can in

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in Elon pay. But it'll be our
instance of Elon pay.

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Okay, so as a new podcast, you
can also use this to sign up.

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Yeah, you will be able to Yeah,

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okay, that would make sense to
you sign up. So that's your,

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your podcast wallet, and then we
can spin up stuff for guests and

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other things. You can do that. I
guess kind of like an Uncle Bob

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type situation, right?

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Uncle Bob?

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I'm not saying Tom. But I'm
saying not saying Uncle Tom for

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a resume. Try and don't say Tom
don't say, Bob. Bob's your

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uncle. Exactly.

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But it's okay. So it's, it's
that's why I went back and

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started working on podcast or
wallet number one we needed, we

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need to split a split editor.
Yep. And then also the ability

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to use custom key custom value
that needed to be in there. But

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then, it also just needed a
little bit of revamping. So that

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when we get ready to push this
next phase out, which is the

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episode level splits, that's
that would be my hope, would be

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the first instance of being able
to use our node would be for

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somebody goes in, and they have
their claimed podcast. And then

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let's just say that, let's say
that Sam and James have a have

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somebody on their show, like
Brian, and he has he has a node

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and they could go in there. They
they control their own fate a

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little bit, but Well, no, not on
pod land that's on buzzsprout.

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So they, they would go in there
to their dashboard and podcast

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wallet and

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pull their list. Oh, okay. Yeah.

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Yeah. So they would go in there
they would

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publish you publish the episode
and then you go into your little

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portal there at your podcast or
wall. portal. Dippy WP Yeah,

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repeat everything p2p. And then
it'll suck in all the episodes.

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You may think Ah, okay, this
episode, I did need to add a

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split.

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Yes, yeah. And so then it would
it would clone your existing

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value block to that episode, and
then open the split editor and

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allow you to add in an extra
split now you could you could do

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it as a custom node where you
manually copy and paste the node

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ID in, or this other option
would be to spin up an alien pay

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wallet Nice. Yeah.

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And then how do you give access
to the guest? To that wallet?

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To be determined.

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And now I have a split your
money. Hey, have you seen? Have

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you ever had a chance to
actually mess around with Curio

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casters Jenny, the RSS Jenny?

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Not at all. Okay, so

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the good news is you could just
do with any old feed right? You

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can just bring up any any
podcast, you can say open an RSS

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editor. And you can mess with
it. You can you can totally

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bootleg feeds it's we haven't
haven't talked about it. You can

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bootleg CDs real easy. But the
reason I'd like you to do that

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is to see how he did his value
block editor because he does a

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lot of that you can clone over
from your from your from your

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feed level. But he also has an
auto calculator in there. So if

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you do a split versus a fee, and
it makes sure you don't go over

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100%

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in the podcast, or while I want
to be logged in No, because

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I got the reset email and it
says, you know, click here and

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then it says we're sending you
the password, and then I never

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get that one. That will but I
didn't want to bother you. I

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didn't want to. It's clearly
you.

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Yeah, it's me. I don't want to
interact with you there even

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though

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it's obvious if there's
something wrong with you, D Kim

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Tiki, whatever. You gotta get
it. Yeah. And I'll reset your

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password for you. And that way
you can get at least see it.

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Before I

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criticize it. Is that what
you're saying? Yeah, I wasn't

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criticizing because I haven't
seen it. I just want to make

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sure that you've seen how Steven
did it.

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I have not seen how Steven does
it. But I'm looking right now.

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Actually podcasting 2.0

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I'm sure you've come up with
something entirely similar. I

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guess what I'm, what I'm what
I'm looking at is I'm like, holy

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crap. Steve, did this work? How
do I get Stephens code into your

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hands? You don't have to do it
again? It No, it may be maybe

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two different infrastructures.
I'm just thinking pragmatically.

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And I asked for that asked if
anybody wanted to wanted to do

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it wanted to tackle sort of
creating that UI. And then you

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know, I thought well, really,
it's gonna it's one of those

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things where I ended up, there
was so much integration stuff to

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go in on our end part of this is
because I don't use a

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declarative UI type language. So
that means like, something like

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react where you it's the
declarative versus imperative

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style type of, of programming
here. And declarative would be

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something like, I want a screen
that looks like this. And it has

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these parts in these inputs in
these connectors, and this is

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what I want it to look like, you
describe what you want the

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screen to look like, and then
the framework makes it happen.

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That's what does our react does.

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That's, that's vs, that's the
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imperative style, which would be
I want it to look like this, and

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I'm going to tell the framework,
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every parameter, every bit every
cent and you prefer that method.

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I don't really know what I
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part is stuff I've done, I've
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in C sharp, and I like it. The,
the and it's great up until a

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point and I think it's I think
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a control freak you are, which I
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control nut, and you want to
just really be aware of every

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little piece that's happening at
every every moment, then then

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programming your UI is probably
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your mind works, versus letting
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lift for you. But you know, I
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scheme of things. I think I just
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put Did you get a drop shadow in
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No drugs, no impulse.

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Just you should just put a
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just for fun. But you still have
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I'm still using, you know,
JavaScript stuff from 10 years

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ago. I'm so behind the times on
front end things that I could

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somebody could just would just
laugh at everything I do. So no,

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I won't. Definitely not going to
compare notes.

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This is this is phenomenal
feature that you've created. How

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far along? Is it? Is it were the
editors working? Right?

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We had the split editors
working. So the next step will

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be to, to be able to

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put to add the guest wallet.

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Yes. Yes, that's right. Yeah, to
be able to do the guest while

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and that part will entail
hooking into the LNP node. You

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know, but then part of this is
we have to talk all this stuff

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out with Eric, because we don't
want to wait, before we start

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holding people sat, we got to be
sure. on the business side, we

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know what we're, yeah, we know
what the plan is. I don't want

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to get ahead of him.

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No kidding. Yeah.

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Eric, by the way, we have we
know we're holding 10 million

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sets for people. And he's like,
what? No,

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yeah. But we have we have all
the data. We have, we have the

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database, we knew when we know
when it came in. Now, this is

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indeed the issue, I think, to be
even more rows transparent as we

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are about it is, you know, we
see all kinds of issues coming

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down the road. And the last
thing we wanted is to not have

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anyone wanting, you know, more
people drop off say, Well, you

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know, this is kind of messy with
this custodial versus non

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custodial. So, you know, I think
that's, that's an outstanding

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role for podcast index, is to
take something like that on and

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do what is legally possible, and
to make it work. And we'll see

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how how bad that gets, I mean,
that we have to KYC podcasters.

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Yeah, I'm, like, 99% Sure,
that's gonna have to happen. But

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yeah, anything, anything above
that is gonna be you know, and

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then it's like, okay, is the
guest we're holding it so that

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the guest is a part of the host
is a part of you know, that

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paperwork is something I have no
visibility over.

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You know, the other part of that
is that we want to make sure

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that that Ellen pay is a is a
thing that people can depend on

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for the for the long haul for
sure. So like, for instance, a

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lot of our apps, they're,
they're using L and PE as their

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back end for the podcast or for
their listener wallets. Exactly.

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And we want to make sure that
that with him. So we're now

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paying customers him, you know,
we're paying him each month to

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have a node. And that helps him
to monetize and to be able to

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stick around in hat because
before maintenance, Tim was

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doing this really out of the
kindness of his heart, and

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because he's a geek and an
enthusiast, and he wanted to do

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it. But you know, there comes a
point where, if you're holding,

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you know, 50 million SATs, you
really it becomes a business

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whether you want it to be or
not. Exactly. And so we needed

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to give him you know, the, the
raising reward that Yeah, so we,

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you know, we're doing this
really to say, okay, hey, you

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know, podcast apps, y'all can
depend on Ellen pay to build on

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top of rather than saying, you
know, okay, well, you know,

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hopefully hit 10 will be around.

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Yeah. And hopefully, Tim will be
around, we'd like having him

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around. He's a fun guy to have
around. Yeah.

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Yeah. But, you know, so he'll,
well, that's, that's where we're

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at. And then hopefully, we'll be
able to do some things like, one

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of the things that pod verse has
been waiting on to, to implement

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streaming stats is they want
they what they want is to be

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able to spin up a listener
wallet in a way that where they

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give the listener their own,
where they give the listener

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their own credentials. So part
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the management portion of that,
of course, they want to create a

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wallet, and then give in and
say, Okay, here's, here's your

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credentials. Now you can go to
the LM pay dashboard and manage

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your own stuff, right? And
there's really no way to do that

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currently through through Tim's
LNP instance. But that's, that's

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something that we'll be doing is
being able to do back apps that

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want to do it that way. What
we'll do, we'll give them an a,

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an interface to be able to make
that happen. And that will that

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will allow pod verse to to to
ship so anyway that there's a

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lot of stuff on the on the on
the radar screen for

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that also, boo pod station, will
it not

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Yeah, I think that would solve
his problem. Do you have the

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same type of deal? It's like,
uh, you know, look, I don't I

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don't even want to. I don't even
want to know, man. Yeah,

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exactly. Yeah, very good now.
Okay. So along with this, you're

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doing all kinds of other work
that involves activity pub.

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Beginning network. Yeah. Yeah.
What

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exactly is this? Is this the
chat? The cross app comments Is

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this what exactly is that piece?

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So this will be what? What we
will implement as a proof of

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concept for the live stuff.

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And Moe is freaking out. He's
like, I can't wait. Oh, yeah.

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He's like, I can't wait to pull
everyone from YouTube. We're

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gonna pull all limbs. He's like,
we got to put put a lot of

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energy into YouTube. Get him on
on the YouTube. Everyone's in

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the YouTube live there. We're
gonna take him away. Yes,

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absolutely. We're gonna take him
away. Yeah, I mean, so he says

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that part's easy. He seen him do
it with Odyssey and a number of

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other plays rumble even bit as
long as you have it, they'll

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follow they'll go.

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I believe that, I totally
believe that if as long as you

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make the experience similar
enough to where it feels the

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same? You know, I don't know,
why wouldn't you it's just a

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waste. I

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know, you do both at the same
time, you know, simulcast for a

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little bit, and then you just
shut off the YouTube and then

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everyone's over. Huh. And the
way you do that is with the

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super chats, which you know, we
will have we will have the

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booster grams, the live booster
grams, that's where the action

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is at.

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So the way that the way that
it'll happen in this is my least

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initially This is the vision
here. And in this code is

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somewhat somewhat framed in I'm,
I'm still sort of putting the

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last touches on on the frame
framework of this is that we

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will publish the feed. So like
this week, when you go to

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publish after we record today,
you would you would put in the

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live item for the next following
week. Right? You would put it in

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for, you know, October or
whatever.

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I pre publish it. Yeah. For the
for the live date. Yeah. And is

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it a timestamp or full
timestamp, which isn't a date?

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No, it's full timestamp, okay.
So the, you'd have a live live

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item in there with a link to the
node nogen does stream and then

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a pub, a pub date or a go live
date as part of that live item

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that says Okay, at this moment,
at this timestamp on this date,

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that's when we're going to go
live.

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And so then that goes into the
hive blockchain, it hits the

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index, the index pings, the
activity pub that that pings all

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of the apps.

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Okay.

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I just strung my own version
together. Continue, please.

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Okay.

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Something like that. Yeah, I

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knew I was close.

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Pink pinging? Yes. But yes, all
these things and things happen.

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Okay, so then you publish, then
the apps will see. They'll see

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today's episode.

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Oh, this is jlc live Ah, and so
that they set their own little

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timer, their own little internal
alert?

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Yes. So they'll they'll see the
timestamp. And they'll they'll,

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what they'll see is an item it
says, it's going to go there's

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gonna be a live stream on this
day at this time. And then it'll

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be just there. And they can they
can index it into the app and

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show it in some way. Then when
that time, when it gets close to

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that time to that timestamp, the
app can begin to watch pod

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paying for that signal that
happens to say that the live

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stream has actually started.
Okay, because you want to

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timestamp in there. Yep.

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To be to be aware to be on on
your calendar interest

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sort of via Yeah, yeah, but but
but then you may not go on live

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Exactly. At that moment, I have
technical problems or something

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like that. So you at that
moment, what you want to do is

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you just want to wait around and
say, Okay, I'm looking for the

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best signal to tell me when to
actually start streaming. Right.

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So

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you're just you're just watching
pod ping at that, at that point.

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Yes. But the full pod ping
because that's just flooding in.

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You're watching it for a special
for a special piping that has

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that that reason code and live
reason. Then you can like for

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our for our proof of concept
what it'll be is the, the

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software that we're that I'm
putting together wool will begin

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we'll look at that and begin
doing that. Then you will be

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able to go to that page. It'll
be something like you know, like

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live dot podcast index.org or
something. You go to that page

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and When the stream goes live,
it'll start up. And as another

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component to the live item tag
in the RSS feed, is a link to

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the stream URL

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to the activity pub URL. Oh, no,
no, not stream your will ever

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need that'll be in there too.
But it'll be a link to a route

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item for the activity box. How

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does that get created?

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You can create it any you could
create it anywhere. And that's

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where I'm currently trying to
figure out where's this?

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I guess I'm the reason I'm
asking is because I recall that

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being the main question, Who
owns the right of the comment,

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the root node of the
conversation,

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and I think what I'm probably
going to do is just create a

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false root node inside software
as as a placeholder, because it

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really ultimately doesn't
matter. It could be in any

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activity pub compliant system.
So you could, you know, if you

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wanted to, you could create a
route, sort of a route and route

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post on podcast and index dot
social, the only issue there is,

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then you have to have people are
interacting with it, they'll

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have to have be able to tie
their identities back to that

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somehow. So I'm thinking for
just for ease of initial rollout

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here, just create a fake root
node within the software. And

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then as people go to the page,
when people go to the page, it

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will automatically create an
identity for them. Sort of like

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the RFC does in the troll room.
Like you go in there and says,

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Yeah, what do you want named
Webb? 577294.

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Yeah, yeah. No, ask you what
your name is gonna be stored in

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local storage or in a cookie.
And so then when if you if your

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browser closes and comes back,
you're the same person. And then

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we'll

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recognize my identity from
podcast index dot social.

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Well, that would be that would
be another steps. Yeah, that,

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you know, that's what I'm
talking about. Like if we, if we

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want to, eventually we'll do
that connected.

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Okay. Yeah, I don't I don't want
to complicate it. Okay. So the

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main issue of the root node
being he who holds the root

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node, they who hold the root
node can also delete it and and

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is the last row and yeah, okay,
that's the thing that some

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people don't like and you've
made a choice.

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Yeah, and I think I mean, you
have to be able to moderate so

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it's just gonna be me for proof
of concept is easier just to

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create a sort of fake internal
nodes. Because Because then you

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know, like, will be, it'll be
activity pub compliant. Some

442
00:27:45,420 --> 00:27:48,570
other we can federate out
somebody else can monitor can

443
00:27:48,570 --> 00:27:54,360
look at those activities. And
and then they'll federate. But

444
00:27:55,170 --> 00:27:59,910
for simplicity it'll it'll all
just be you know, internal to

445
00:27:59,910 --> 00:28:00,720
bandeian with

446
00:28:00,749 --> 00:28:03,119
and so for this you will
actually be doing in doing this

447
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:08,099
interaction on the page itself.
Not within your app.

448
00:28:09,210 --> 00:28:11,910
Yes, yes initially because for
this proof of concept Yes,

449
00:28:11,910 --> 00:28:14,640
because the page is a wall sort
of mimic what

450
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,070
an app would do and where did
the booster Graham show up?

451
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:19,890
Well the histograms show up in
the page as well so there'll be

452
00:28:19,890 --> 00:28:24,300
this nice this scrolling. My
vision for this thing is it's a

453
00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:30,600
scrolling list of boosts of of
activity and so some of them are

454
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,270
activity pub stream comments and
those are going to be sort of

455
00:28:33,270 --> 00:28:34,290
like on the left

456
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,260
and then the Super Chat or the
boosted grams yet

457
00:28:37,980 --> 00:28:41,910
gonna be integrated in there in
Tom step spray timespans tam

458
00:28:41,910 --> 00:28:44,670
sprinkled in there on the on the
on the right

459
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,510
so good people like how do I get
in how do I do that? How do I

460
00:28:48,510 --> 00:28:50,250
get into those things over there

461
00:28:51,090 --> 00:28:57,960
and those will come in from any
app in real time see in order to

462
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,750
enter in order to just simply
chat you would be would put you

463
00:29:00,750 --> 00:29:02,970
know just type or chat into the
box on the page right right

464
00:29:02,970 --> 00:29:06,030
right to get a booster gram in
you know you boost through from

465
00:29:06,030 --> 00:29:07,260
Instagram and of course

466
00:29:07,259 --> 00:29:11,669
the the web apps won't will have
a lot more trouble notifying me

467
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:12,899
that something is going on

468
00:29:15,060 --> 00:29:16,110
what do you mean like going on

469
00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:20,280
of notifying the you know like
waiting waiting for the bad

470
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,800
signal if I don't have the web
app open is not going to be

471
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,250
waiting

472
00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:28,620
well I mean, they know the
backend server would be would be

473
00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:31,380
the one doing that work so they
if you just pulled the page up

474
00:29:32,220 --> 00:29:34,110
it would auto it would already
know it would already be

475
00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:36,630
I understand but there's no
there's I don't believe there's

476
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:41,580
a way for pod friend or Curio
caster to just notify me

477
00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:42,600
something's happening.

478
00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:45,660
Oh, I see what you mean. Well,
you could turn on web

479
00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:47,040
notifications. I mean, that's,

480
00:29:47,070 --> 00:29:50,430
that's Oh, that's true. Yeah.
Well, you know what, just shoot

481
00:29:50,430 --> 00:29:53,100
me an email. I'll be happy to
give any given email address for

482
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,440
that. Or an activity pub notice.

483
00:29:55,710 --> 00:29:59,070
Yeah. doored or just ring my
doorbell just like impressment

484
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,480
Come on martin Come on man show
some initiative ring my doorbell

485
00:30:04,830 --> 00:30:08,340
Yeah, Amazon can walk it. Yeah.
What's your problem? Hey,

486
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,830
what's up with with pod friend
we have a new a new beta out.

487
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,450
Tina was in tears he

488
00:30:15,450 --> 00:30:15,990
published.

489
00:30:17,010 --> 00:30:22,590
He has like, pod friend is like
this bass expired. That's gone.

490
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,480
She doesn't use that. Just pay,
talk to that Danish guy and get

491
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,660
another version up. Yeah, no,
that wasn't her either, but

492
00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:32,610
somewhere in the middle. Yeah,
just

493
00:30:33,630 --> 00:30:37,710
know I got a new version of it
on my on my test flight

494
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,250
now. Okay, then hopefully she
has that now then. She just

495
00:30:41,250 --> 00:30:43,800
mentioned to me yesterday. She's
like, what's going on?

496
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,850
Yeah. Okay. We're we're gonna
funny about that later. That.

497
00:30:49,170 --> 00:30:51,780
Okay, well, this is very
exciting. This is very exciting.

498
00:30:51,780 --> 00:30:54,750
Dave, thank you for doing all
this work. This is this is like,

499
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,590
yeah, this is what I've really
been been dreaming of. For this

500
00:30:58,620 --> 00:31:01,650
to happen, we're really getting
down to some brass tacks and,

501
00:31:01,890 --> 00:31:05,190
and with this live stuff, what a
super bonus to anything that we

502
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:09,030
could have imagined. And there's
just so much good thinking going

503
00:31:09,030 --> 00:31:09,960
on about this.

504
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:16,050
And out Alice Gates is, is the
master of of these protocols.

505
00:31:16,050 --> 00:31:20,100
And so I'd really been relying
on him in his advice to get that

506
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,560
to get to get it all put
together because what it needs,

507
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,920
what it'll be on the back end,
it'll be activity, strip,

508
00:31:26,010 --> 00:31:33,300
activity, pub. activity,
activity, pub management going

509
00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:38,100
on, on the server side. And
then, but what communicates with

510
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:44,400
the browser will be a G RPC
client. And so that's, that's

511
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:49,260
going to be a, here's my initial
design idea. I'm just going to

512
00:31:49,260 --> 00:31:54,810
take the pod pain code that what
the, the code for the front end

513
00:31:54,810 --> 00:31:58,560
of pod pain that accepts the GET
requests and all that, it take

514
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,240
that cuz this bill is it's a
rust x single rust executable,

515
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:09,120
take that input and put in the G
RPC support. So then what it'll

516
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,190
do is it'll that that code will
act as the web server serving

517
00:32:14,190 --> 00:32:18,960
the page. And therefore it'll be
serving GET requests. When

518
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,670
people come to the page and give
you the initial HTML, then it's

519
00:32:23,670 --> 00:32:27,480
also it will also be running a G
RPC server. And then there'll be

520
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,400
a web g RPC client on the HTML
page they'll just refresh it'll

521
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,050
we'll be streaming lifetime Oh
yeah. Real Time stream that's

522
00:32:37,050 --> 00:32:40,560
just an open connection that's
constant. Miners will surface me

523
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,670
to do like long polling

524
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:44,730
mines will surface a player on
that page just in case.

525
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:48,840
Yeah, there's already one on it.
Okay. Yeah. On the in the in the

526
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,590
test code, okay. That'll be what
I want. And the reason I'm doing

527
00:32:52,590 --> 00:32:54,870
all that is because we've
already got all the HTTP stuff

528
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:57,420
built in in a nice rust
executable, so we don't have to

529
00:32:57,420 --> 00:32:58,230
worry about security.

530
00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:06,510
I love a nice rust executable.
had that for breakfast with some

531
00:33:06,510 --> 00:33:07,710
fig fig jam.

532
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,230
fig jelly. A big jam is actually
really good. I had

533
00:33:13,260 --> 00:33:20,490
I got some some strawberry jam
and it had pepper in and a

534
00:33:20,490 --> 00:33:25,620
peppers, jalapeno peppers. Love
pepper, pepper jelly, but a home

535
00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:30,930
like oh, especially. I'm a
peanut butter and jelly kind of

536
00:33:30,930 --> 00:33:34,020
guy. That's like Ah, it's 1030
at night. I'm hungry. I'm like

537
00:33:34,020 --> 00:33:37,560
peanut butter and jelly on a
hamburger bun. But of course

538
00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:42,540
this may Cohen coincide with
smoking of some flowers. So like

539
00:33:43,380 --> 00:33:47,550
peanut butter and then I bought
this stuff like whoa, I'm just

540
00:33:47,550 --> 00:33:48,150
sitting there.

541
00:33:49,530 --> 00:33:54,330
Okay, so we didn't have to do
the best way to do pepper jelly

542
00:33:54,690 --> 00:33:56,550
is Yeah, he do

543
00:33:56,580 --> 00:33:59,190
main line is straighten his
artery. No, no,

544
00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:02,909
no, no, that's a bad idea.
Unless you have nothing to do

545
00:34:02,909 --> 00:34:06,629
the rest of the day on the
bathroom. You you go with a

546
00:34:06,629 --> 00:34:10,979
triscuit and then a little bit
of cream cheese and aluminum

547
00:34:10,979 --> 00:34:15,059
pepper jelly. No, it's brutal.
Now

548
00:34:15,089 --> 00:34:17,849
it's brown. I think I would
substitute the triscuit for a

549
00:34:17,849 --> 00:34:18,749
Ritz cracker.

550
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:21,119
That that is a better idea

551
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,100
that it'll kill me quicker but
yeah,

552
00:34:26,130 --> 00:34:29,400
you know I don't know if you're
if if this is just an American

553
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,530
thing, but do you know the
cracker called chicken in a

554
00:34:31,530 --> 00:34:36,750
biscuit? No, I don't. Okay, look
for it in storage. It's a it's

555
00:34:36,750 --> 00:34:40,530
just called chicken in a
biscuit. It's like a it's like a

556
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,980
little rectangular shaped rich
cracker thing, but it's got some

557
00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:46,290
seasoning on it. Oh, that's good
stuff.

558
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,490
Huh? Is it thin?

559
00:34:47,490 --> 00:34:51,450
That's good stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
it's about the it's it looks

560
00:34:51,450 --> 00:34:55,320
kind of like a risk cracker but
it's rectangular. In a biscuit,

561
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:55,650
baby.

562
00:34:55,860 --> 00:34:59,970
Oh, I see it here. Oh my
goodness. That chicken biscuit.

563
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,920
Big snack crackers wow that's
from Nabisco.

564
00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:14,040
Oh that you know, that deserves
you to play. I so Alabama,

565
00:35:14,130 --> 00:35:16,050
Alabama of all places.

566
00:35:17,369 --> 00:35:19,739
What about Alabama of all
places?

567
00:35:20,189 --> 00:35:20,999
Yep. That's

568
00:35:21,959 --> 00:35:23,069
Michigan in a biscuit.

569
00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:30,750
Play Texas. Why are you there?
So Texas? Of course, Texas. You

570
00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:32,550
know who that is? Let me listen.

571
00:35:32,610 --> 00:35:39,240
Of course, Texas. Of course,
Texas. No.

572
00:35:40,410 --> 00:35:41,250
Jen briny.

573
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:45,990
Oh, and then she's Oh, hmm. I
never talked with her then.

574
00:35:46,890 --> 00:35:51,150
Sounds like he was one of those.
Of course the racists in Texas.

575
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:55,500
Yep. Yeah, and how about
Alabama, Alabama, and

576
00:35:55,500 --> 00:36:01,320
this is Tom Fox in all places.
And we're talking about

577
00:36:01,770 --> 00:36:05,880
Alabama having an electric
ferry. Not gas powered failing

578
00:36:06,570 --> 00:36:10,530
places. Because y'all y'all are
just rednecks. You'd like your

579
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,390
rolling coal you ain't gonna use
no electrics things. Yeah, cuz

580
00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:17,730
everybody knows we're a bunch of
dumb ass That's right. You're

581
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,950
eating your chicken in a
biscuit.

582
00:36:20,430 --> 00:36:22,020
Sometimes I forget to eat
because I'm just

583
00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:26,220
too busy with my horse dewormer

584
00:36:26,489 --> 00:36:29,579
cutting down a chicken on a
biscuit

585
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:34,980
I got my horse to warm I'm a
chicken biscuit That's right.

586
00:36:35,010 --> 00:36:37,980
Hey, all I know is a lot of
people I know in Australia I

587
00:36:37,980 --> 00:36:41,700
think in Texas looks pretty good
right now. They're having real

588
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:43,920
conversations about it like
Should we go live in hill

589
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,530
country? That sounds better than
what we're what's going on here.

590
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,060
Adam Can you get us Can you get
us green cards? Or passports?

591
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,990
I've done a lot of those
actually. With a guy I don't

592
00:36:54,990 --> 00:36:57,630
think you can do it anymore it's
crazy now you can't get

593
00:36:57,630 --> 00:36:58,410
appointments

594
00:36:58,410 --> 00:37:01,440
and when no you can't do it you
just walk in through the border

595
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:01,830
so you

596
00:37:02,010 --> 00:37:04,740
know that's that's the way to
go. I finally got my daughter

597
00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:09,360
was in passport jail for 10
years she she had a password she

598
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,330
lost a passport got a new one
issued when she was in Los

599
00:37:12,330 --> 00:37:16,980
Angeles Bless you. And and then
it one was stolen, like within a

600
00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:20,160
year of each other. And they
said and then in order to get a

601
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,100
new passport, I had to get her
documentation from her grade

602
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:26,790
school. And I was like t verse
Oh yeah, no, they were being a

603
00:37:26,820 --> 00:37:31,110
holes about it. And in a way
it's like okay dumb ass How can

604
00:37:31,110 --> 00:37:34,560
you lose and get you're just
dumb is dumb kids and she

605
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,350
learned her lesson because for
10 years, they would only give

606
00:37:37,350 --> 00:37:42,690
her a one year passport. And so
now she's in the system, where

607
00:37:42,690 --> 00:37:45,270
they're just like automatically
one year in one year not gonna

608
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:49,110
do anything. And I'm looking at
the situation of the worlds that

609
00:37:49,110 --> 00:37:51,930
I want you to have a valid
passport and American passport

610
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,230
is a Dutch one. So you should
have a valid one that is good.

611
00:37:55,260 --> 00:37:58,050
You know, if you need to move
around for some reason, you

612
00:37:58,050 --> 00:38:01,440
never know what's going to
happen. And so I had to backdoor

613
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,580
it. I had to go through my Dutch
military contacts to talk to the

614
00:38:05,820 --> 00:38:09,000
ambassador to talk to the
embassy to talk the council

615
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,570
thing or whatever. And it
worked. But Holy crap, it was

616
00:38:12,570 --> 00:38:13,350
not easy.

617
00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:17,100
He ended up he ended up in Mark
Ritter's bathroom for some

618
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:17,460
reason.

619
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:23,130
They say a lot of weird things
about him. So no.

620
00:38:25,980 --> 00:38:27,870
Maybe you just have to deal with
the one year passport. Okay.

621
00:38:28,380 --> 00:38:33,990
Yeah, we'll take care of it.
That's very exciting. I'm I'm

622
00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:38,190
very, I'm anticipating that do
you have kind of a timeline?

623
00:38:38,190 --> 00:38:41,430
Couple weeks month? Yeah. Who
knows? Whatever. Right?

624
00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:47,610
Do the hell knows? Yeah. I mean,
like, I would say that it's

625
00:38:47,610 --> 00:38:52,650
going to be if the coding is not
going to take as long as I had

626
00:38:52,650 --> 00:38:55,620
originally thought, because,
because you're that good. Now

627
00:38:55,620 --> 00:38:59,190
that can repurpose. Right?
Because I can repurpose that

628
00:38:59,250 --> 00:39:03,270
that pod PIN code. So that's
really save a lot, a lot of

629
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:06,390
stuff. The other thing is I
haven't written rust in six

630
00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:09,300
months. So I gotta, I gotta
learn, you know, get back, get

631
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:12,630
my chops back on that, Benny,
but I think I don't think it'll

632
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:15,630
be too bad. The good thing about
activity pub is now that I

633
00:39:15,630 --> 00:39:20,040
understand it. It's actually
very easy. I mean, it's weird,

634
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,790
but it's easy. activity. pub is
one of these things where it's

635
00:39:23,790 --> 00:39:27,630
got this weird learning curve to
it. Where when you first start

636
00:39:27,630 --> 00:39:32,160
reading about it, it seems easy.
And then you start looking. You

637
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,340
read the spec, and the spec is
like, Oh, this makes sense. And

638
00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:38,280
then you start looking at it in
practice, and you're like, what

639
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,030
is this thing doing? Like, what,
what's happening here? But then

640
00:39:42,030 --> 00:39:45,570
as soon as you actually put some
code in there, and see how it

641
00:39:45,570 --> 00:39:48,270
responds, you're like, oh, it is
as easy as I thought it was.

642
00:39:48,570 --> 00:39:50,670
It's just just weird. Like, I
don't know, it's a strange

643
00:39:50,670 --> 00:39:54,510
protocol. So to help that
mastodon like, you know,

644
00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:59,280
does it differently, does it
differently. Yeah. Well, the

645
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,960
reason I asked Because I'm I'm
kind of like semi committed to

646
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,340
this El Salvador trip

647
00:40:06,420 --> 00:40:08,940
for the I'm sorry you're going
right

648
00:40:08,970 --> 00:40:14,850
well you know it's yeah but I'm
a little concerned because i

649
00:40:14,850 --> 00:40:21,030
don't know if i mean I'll go but
will the any aircraft go because

650
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:26,700
this is November I think 15th
through 18th which works

651
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:28,800
perfectly because it's during
the week and I would only have

652
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:34,890
to do one show on the think the
18th from there and then I could

653
00:40:34,890 --> 00:40:39,840
fly back well no, I probably
have to do two shows a Thursday

654
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,610
no agenda and this show friday
so it leaves Saturday which I

655
00:40:44,610 --> 00:40:49,890
would have left anyway. But
that'll be the 19th bam. All

656
00:40:49,890 --> 00:40:55,620
vaccine mandates I think are
solid by November 18. And

657
00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:58,230
although and you know and
American is what I would prefer

658
00:40:58,230 --> 00:41:01,890
to fly and that's they're
already canceling flights left

659
00:41:01,890 --> 00:41:02,580
and right from

660
00:41:02,910 --> 00:41:04,230
veiling Yeah, yeah.

661
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:04,980
So

662
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,650
this is the flight pilot the
pilot strike there's not really

663
00:41:10,650 --> 00:41:12,390
a pilot strike we know you

664
00:41:13,350 --> 00:41:15,960
I'm not too worried about
sitting around to get there but

665
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:21,240
what if I can't get back? Yep,
that's a whole places to be

666
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:24,660
stuck. I just don't want to be
stuck in El Salvador. Now I

667
00:41:24,660 --> 00:41:31,350
would be stuck there with Roy I
think Roy and I would paint the

668
00:41:31,350 --> 00:41:31,890
towel

669
00:41:32,310 --> 00:41:34,950
I think Roy knows how to have a
good time I know Salvador I'm

670
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:35,130
just

671
00:41:36,210 --> 00:41:38,460
he's already selected the hotel
This is where we're staying This

672
00:41:38,460 --> 00:41:39,480
is this way want to be

673
00:41:39,810 --> 00:41:43,530
okay favorite part my favorite
part of that Reuter of the Miami

674
00:41:43,530 --> 00:41:49,320
trip with Roy was that he some
he's his credit card got

675
00:41:49,350 --> 00:41:52,860
declined Oh yeah. International
transaction for the Uber so then

676
00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:55,980
he gets on it but he gets on
breeze Yeah, and does bit

677
00:41:55,980 --> 00:42:00,360
refill. Yeah and gets an Uber
card an Uber car through bit

678
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,390
refill and has an Uber within
like 10 minutes Yeah, I was like

679
00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:04,620
man Yeah, that

680
00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:08,370
was slick and ever since that
time I have a severe sufficient

681
00:42:08,370 --> 00:42:14,190
stack of websites on my breeze
wallet. But yeah, I saw that one

682
00:42:14,190 --> 00:42:17,430
function you know this I got
several wallets and you know all

683
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:21,990
kinds of stuff that they can do.
But yeah, breezes distilled

684
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:25,170
superduper real wallet and it
really is your wallet you know

685
00:42:25,170 --> 00:42:27,270
it's noncustodial try

686
00:42:27,690 --> 00:42:30,780
really I think still blows my
mind how it how it's a full lnd

687
00:42:30,780 --> 00:42:33,930
note on a on a phone. Yeah,
that's so crazy, man.

688
00:42:34,409 --> 00:42:37,439
Yeah, they're doing brilliant.
Yeah, but I think they're doing

689
00:42:37,439 --> 00:42:40,469
all kinds of stuff on the back
end and they've got you know,

690
00:42:40,469 --> 00:42:43,529
there's always I mean, I had a
nice chat with Roy and he caught

691
00:42:43,529 --> 00:42:46,439
me up on the latest gossip
what's happened and what's going

692
00:42:46,439 --> 00:42:49,949
on in in lightning labs land and
you know, there's so many

693
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:53,099
different things and people and
it's just you know, there's

694
00:42:53,099 --> 00:42:55,829
always something happening. So
yeah, you know, the fact that

695
00:42:55,829 --> 00:43:01,049
this this conference in El
Salvador is a lightning specific

696
00:43:01,049 --> 00:43:03,689
conference. I think that's good.
And he said it would get me on a

697
00:43:03,689 --> 00:43:07,979
panel so I want to be on Roy's
panel I chat Yeah, we chat some

698
00:43:07,979 --> 00:43:10,469
stuff it'd be fun I'm really
want to like really wish I need

699
00:43:10,469 --> 00:43:13,589
it. posh is gonna be there and
hold on. We see

700
00:43:14,220 --> 00:43:17,100
what's cool. Yeah, Neda that's
it'd be great to shake her hand

701
00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:17,910
to see her in person.

702
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:25,020
Yeah. What's it called again?
The lightning summit or adopting

703
00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:29,640
Bitcoin? adopting Bitcoin
lightning summit. 2021.

704
00:43:30,030 --> 00:43:34,650
Speakers? Okay, who do we have?
I need a posh we know her. Who

705
00:43:34,650 --> 00:43:35,670
else is going to be there?

706
00:43:37,020 --> 00:43:38,310
Who are the speakers? Yeah,

707
00:43:38,370 --> 00:43:41,550
I'm looking Christian. rotes all
he's raspy Blitz guy. Let me

708
00:43:41,550 --> 00:43:48,480
look at him. Since I'm running
my family finances. I don't know

709
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:53,610
if Ryan's Oh, you know, I think
a lot of the American execs are

710
00:43:53,610 --> 00:43:57,030
not going because they're all
afraid for security reasons.

711
00:43:57,750 --> 00:44:03,690
Oh, like executive kidnapping.
Whatever. What happens if you

712
00:44:03,690 --> 00:44:06,780
get kidnapped? Do we have key
man insurance on you?

713
00:44:07,050 --> 00:44:11,520
Do you have the keys? Forget key
man insurance. You got all the

714
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,480
passwords? You have most of the
passwords I think to everything.

715
00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:18,030
Oh Paulie toys gonna be there
they go.

716
00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:21,180
Oh, good. Yeah, good. Yeah, they
you know, things just redid

717
00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:25,140
their UI. I haven't seen it yet.
It's on the it's on the beta.

718
00:44:25,590 --> 00:44:28,620
Are they using? Are they still
using l&d? Are they using see

719
00:44:28,620 --> 00:44:33,030
lightning? Steven laverra Stefan
lavera is going to be there. I

720
00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:33,240
would

721
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:36,480
like I would like to meet him
one day. I think he's a really

722
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:36,930
good guy.

723
00:44:37,139 --> 00:44:39,419
Yeah, I wish I wish we could go
together.

724
00:44:39,989 --> 00:44:43,349
Yeah, I really wish I could go
I've got I've got to be Yeah.

725
00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:47,310
Okay. Here's the Here's the
exchange. Here's the exchange to

726
00:44:47,310 --> 00:44:52,020
Adam de El Salvador are the
great trip went 15 through 18.

727
00:44:52,350 --> 00:44:56,910
Not too bad. I'm leaving on the
21st for a couple days. Well,

728
00:44:56,910 --> 00:45:00,360
it's it's not then you can cook
go before then. And then I

729
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,690
thought oh wait Dave has a job
oh yeah that's right

730
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,010
your take days off that was your
take away you have

731
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:11,460
I didn't mean it to sound like
that oh shit you have a job I'm

732
00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:13,050
what I'm an idiot I'm so sorry

733
00:45:13,830 --> 00:45:16,950
that's right yeah cuz he called
vacation yeah

734
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:20,700
yeah you're really because
that's something I'm not very

735
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:25,290
familiar with yeah I got one one
year maybe a one week a year or

736
00:45:25,290 --> 00:45:27,750
something but I'm not
complaining not complaining at

737
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:35,010
all Brian of London man whatever
everywhere what but what a great

738
00:45:35,010 --> 00:45:40,050
job he did explaining pod ping
on the pod line podcast

739
00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:44,220
they did yeah he did did you did
you listen to the after party?

740
00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:52,770
Yes I did I just want to say
here that I should probably go

741
00:45:52,770 --> 00:45:55,890
back and look and listen to it
but I thought what I said about

742
00:45:56,820 --> 00:46:00,450
it was like oh you like this guy
off you did you didn't give him

743
00:46:00,450 --> 00:46:03,030
this? What was it that Dennis
What's his name?

744
00:46:03,330 --> 00:46:04,410
Now Chris Chris.

745
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:11,160
Chris Yeah Chris. Yeah, I'm
horrible I'm horrible. Chris I

746
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,490
was I was relating my
perspective from then the way it

747
00:46:14,490 --> 00:46:18,210
was perceived then I think I
even said What did I know? So

748
00:46:18,210 --> 00:46:22,680
I'm not trying to disparage
anybody. Yeah, but maybe it came

749
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,020
out that maybe I was I don't
know but I didn't mean to

750
00:46:25,020 --> 00:46:28,290
disparage anybody I just that's
what I remembered it and just

751
00:46:28,290 --> 00:46:34,620
admit it while I was Yes, I'm
gonna go done. Really?

752
00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:36,930
I try not to go No, No, I'm just
kidding.

753
00:46:36,989 --> 00:46:42,329
And then who did this new pod
ping stats thing? you seen that?

754
00:46:42,509 --> 00:46:45,569
Yeah, it's the new pod ping
watcher.

755
00:46:46,770 --> 00:46:49,020
Somewhere you're talking about
the theory tonight what Ryan has

756
00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:52,500
put together where it shows the
grid like the charts or are you

757
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:58,800
talking about the pod track data
of like who the new episode data

758
00:46:59,340 --> 00:47:03,330
no this is this is watch it's
just it appears to be a new it's

759
00:47:03,420 --> 00:47:07,860
a new pod ping watcher. I don't
know that I've seen this almost

760
00:47:07,860 --> 00:47:11,010
like new post is it just from
today? I think yesterday I

761
00:47:11,010 --> 00:47:13,650
picked it up it was someone
posted at Haas and let me see

762
00:47:15,060 --> 00:47:18,480
I'll be able to find this real
quick because I read I boosted I

763
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:25,050
can find a boost. seeking truth
just threw together pod ping

764
00:47:25,050 --> 00:47:29,220
podcast player as a shiny app.
Not much of a player just the

765
00:47:29,220 --> 00:47:32,220
list of all feed URLs but it's
just it's a different pod ping

766
00:47:32,220 --> 00:47:34,890
watcher but it has a couple
different features with a search

767
00:47:34,890 --> 00:47:39,000
and some other things and I
missed it I kind of like I just

768
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,510
sit there and I'd like seeing
that stuff refresh before my

769
00:47:42,510 --> 00:47:43,320
very eyes

770
00:47:44,340 --> 00:47:48,660
Oh man I missed a lot of missed
a lot of posts on the on the

771
00:47:48,660 --> 00:47:49,410
podcast index

772
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,680
yeah you got to go to the local
feed from time to time just to

773
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,120
pick up the some of the stuff

774
00:47:56,550 --> 00:47:57,180
that late

775
00:47:57,270 --> 00:48:04,200
well did you see the booster
gram was the title for this just

776
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,120
the booster gram names that we
have here. We have the numbers

777
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:15,240
for this together. Carry aren't
I think that he put this

778
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:21,750
together? Yeah, so he has 200
yeah 200 the Mendoza line boost

779
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:26,610
300 the Spartan boost 315 to
Caesar boost for 20 a stoner

780
00:48:26,610 --> 00:48:33,180
boost 500 Indy boost 6668 and
boost 755 the Hank Aaron boost

781
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:40,590
958 Usain Bolt boost 1004
trucker boost 1034 Riot boost

782
00:48:40,590 --> 00:48:46,080
1066 A Norman boost Let's see
some of the others here. 1776

783
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,070
and liberty boost the prints
boost of course. 1999 Here's

784
00:48:50,070 --> 00:48:52,350
your rush boost at 2112 Oh

785
00:48:52,349 --> 00:48:52,949
yeah, baby.

786
00:48:52,980 --> 00:48:58,110
We got the Van Halen 5150 we got
the Mile High 52 at the high

787
00:48:58,110 --> 00:49:04,440
five. High five is good the boob
boost 808 the Usher boost which

788
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:09,240
is disgusting 8701 the Wilt
Chamberlain which is 10k

789
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:10,950
less like the chicks are

790
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:14,700
okay I get it Beverly Hills
which is 90210 the Google which

791
00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:21,000
is 376606. And then my favorite
the Jenny boost which is 8675309

792
00:49:24,030 --> 00:49:28,470
you got to be kind of old to get
that one. But that's I love

793
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,620
Google 13766061 isn't isn't

794
00:49:31,620 --> 00:49:33,900
that the Google the Google
number?

795
00:49:35,820 --> 00:49:37,050
I don't know what it

796
00:49:37,530 --> 00:49:40,320
is backwards. g OGGLE.

797
00:49:40,949 --> 00:49:44,069
Oh, Okay, I got it. Okay. Okay,
so yeah, that should be like

798
00:49:44,099 --> 00:49:48,059
yes. 6000 I think there's a
mess. I think oh, they

799
00:49:48,060 --> 00:49:50,460
messed it up. It should be 606.
Yeah,

800
00:49:50,489 --> 00:49:51,779
yeah. 376.

801
00:49:51,929 --> 00:49:53,879
denied, denied, denied.

802
00:49:54,330 --> 00:49:55,980
This. This chart has a bug.

803
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,870
bombshell. It's a bug.

804
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:59,820
Boom. Pull Request.

805
00:49:59,850 --> 00:50:01,950
You Yeah, pull request on this
list, please.

806
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:09,390
The speaking of speaking of
data, did you see the stuff

807
00:50:09,390 --> 00:50:13,590
about indie, indie apps losing
market share? Okay.

808
00:50:14,370 --> 00:50:17,940
I can't look at this. Because
the minute someone says indie

809
00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:22,470
apps, I'm already mad. And I
lose all sense of I can't think

810
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:25,950
straight. I'm mad. I'm like,
shut up. This is not this is not

811
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:31,260
indie podcast, it blow me. It
makes me mad. And I can't think

812
00:50:31,260 --> 00:50:31,830
straight.

813
00:50:32,820 --> 00:50:36,690
But also, I can't hear you say
shut up without while you're

814
00:50:36,690 --> 00:50:37,200
roughing

815
00:50:43,590 --> 00:50:49,320
out Yeah, no. I know. I know
what I mean. So me and James in

816
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,800
Spurlock went back and forth
about this a little bit. And I

817
00:50:52,800 --> 00:51:00,870
don't think, you know, well, let
me just say this. Ah, I don't

818
00:51:00,870 --> 00:51:05,520
want this to be true. So I mean,
I'm admitting my bias here. I

819
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,030
don't want this. I don't want. I
mean, I don't want this data to

820
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:15,390
be accurate. So that doesn't
mean it's not. But I guess what

821
00:51:15,390 --> 00:51:19,680
I would be what I would say is
that, for any kind of data like

822
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,610
this, it's it's never going to
tell the whole picture. And I

823
00:51:23,610 --> 00:51:26,370
don't think I don't think James
would be saying that anyway. I

824
00:51:26,370 --> 00:51:32,160
don't think he would say that it
does. I guess this is,

825
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,520
regardless of who of how much of
the industry it represents. And

826
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:41,760
that kind of thing. The idea
that, that we could no, and like

827
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,010
I said, I'm not saying that this
is what James is saying. This is

828
00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:47,760
just what I'm saying. Because I
guess what bothers me about data

829
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,600
like this going out, is that it?
No matter how many qualifiers

830
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,480
you put on it, some people are
going to look at it and say,

831
00:51:54,480 --> 00:52:00,930
okay, that's the whole story.
And, and I hate that, because

832
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,670
it's really not I mean, like
this really could is is could is

833
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:10,290
just saying one piece of of the
entire fragmented, open RSS

834
00:52:10,290 --> 00:52:14,250
ecosystem and is fragmented in a
good way. So if you're only

835
00:52:14,250 --> 00:52:18,630
looking at this one piece,
you're never going to get an

836
00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:23,850
accurate picture of what's
what's actually going on. And if

837
00:52:23,850 --> 00:52:29,250
you look at it, so for instance,
what I think that's what

838
00:52:29,250 --> 00:52:32,580
Spurlock pulled together was
great, because it shows I'm not

839
00:52:32,580 --> 00:52:35,760
going to even consider the how
much of a percentage of the

840
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,060
overall episodes it was that
forever. He when he pulled

841
00:52:39,060 --> 00:52:43,290
together was all the new
episodes in September, if you

842
00:52:43,290 --> 00:52:48,780
look at them, how many of them
redirected through pod track. So

843
00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:53,040
how many of them had a redirect
on an enclosure that had pod

844
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,090
tracks somewhere in the redirect
chain? And so he shows that

845
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:05,130
megaphone at 20% of those
redirects. So if you look at the

846
00:53:05,130 --> 00:53:11,130
top, it's megaphone at roughly
20% Omni studio at 15% spreaker,

847
00:53:11,130 --> 00:53:16,170
at fifth 14%, SoundCloud at 7%.
And so then it finishes out with

848
00:53:16,170 --> 00:53:20,490
Knox future Lipson, aka my
simple cast in our 19. So that's

849
00:53:20,490 --> 00:53:26,550
the top 10. That represents
almost all of it. If you look at

850
00:53:26,550 --> 00:53:30,150
that data, which is what you
miss is the fact that let me

851
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:34,380
There's hardly anybody in there
in the top 10 of hosts using

852
00:53:34,380 --> 00:53:38,640
conntrack have known big hosts
like buzzsprout, blueberry,

853
00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:43,230
those guys, they're really not
even represented much in there.

854
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,460
So to me what this data looks,
what this data looks like to me

855
00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:55,920
is these are shows that are
mostly using pod track are shows

856
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,930
that really, these are podcast
consultant shows, but let me try

857
00:54:00,930 --> 00:54:04,560
to put it that way. these are
these are shows that want to

858
00:54:05,070 --> 00:54:09,480
highly track their audience for
advertising for aggressive

859
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:15,450
advertising. But they're not
huge ones in the sense that this

860
00:54:15,450 --> 00:54:19,920
isn't like this is a no it was
just that this is this is no

861
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,390
agenda. It's not accidental
tech. It's not. There's

862
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:29,580
significant traffic out there.
That is being not included in

863
00:54:29,580 --> 00:54:30,090
this data.

864
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:36,900
I was surprised to learn that
the top 1% of all podcasts do

865
00:54:37,110 --> 00:54:42,510
over 35,000 downloads per
episode. Holy crap, that's

866
00:54:42,510 --> 00:54:44,940
nothing compared to what no
agenda pushes.

867
00:54:45,870 --> 00:54:49,710
No, yo, y'all are owner. The
best we can figure out is y'all

868
00:54:49,710 --> 00:54:53,070
are pushing a million downloads
a week but

869
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:56,670
but hit but now I'm confused.
Because we're talking about two

870
00:54:56,670 --> 00:54:59,490
different things. The
measurements that were done, the

871
00:54:59,490 --> 00:55:04,950
way I understood For the survey,
were done by utilizing pod track

872
00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:09,390
tracking correct. That's that's
how the data was created. Okay.

873
00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:16,050
I don't see how that's relevant
to which app was being used, and

874
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:24,150
what I think it is. But let me
explain why. We received from an

875
00:55:24,180 --> 00:55:33,480
indie app 500,000 satoshis. Last
week 300 over $300 today from

876
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,980
one app, which app delivered
that to any of these so called

877
00:55:37,980 --> 00:55:42,540
consultants using pod track for
one show? Do you understand my

878
00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:46,050
point it's not relevant. This is
not that's that's what I'm

879
00:55:46,050 --> 00:55:49,830
trying to say. It's to me
personally, it's, I don't care.

880
00:55:50,220 --> 00:55:55,200
I'm seeing that I don't care if
it's only 1000 people 1000 shows

881
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,520
right now we have 2300 I think
value for value enabled podcast,

882
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,690
those podcasts are going to
bring more value to themselves

883
00:56:03,690 --> 00:56:09,420
and the ecosystem they're using
then a mult, a multi multiple

884
00:56:09,420 --> 00:56:14,070
factor of all the other so
called non indie podcast apps. I

885
00:56:14,070 --> 00:56:19,980
just don't understand the
relevance The future is not who

886
00:56:19,980 --> 00:56:24,300
has the biggest podcast The
future is who is who can utilize

887
00:56:24,540 --> 00:56:29,190
the podcasting tools that we're
developing to create a better

888
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:31,920
more valuable network for
themselves between their

889
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,680
listeners and our audience
whatever you want to call it

890
00:56:34,770 --> 00:56:39,510
producers and and the podcast
it's no it's not interesting to

891
00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:42,660
be on you know that more people
on Apple are using it, there's

892
00:56:42,660 --> 00:56:46,590
no benefit that's that's, it's
like okay, whatever, if people

893
00:56:46,590 --> 00:56:49,200
are listening and they care
about you when you say please

894
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,620
use one of these 10 other apps
because that's going to keep it

895
00:56:52,620 --> 00:56:57,060
going they'll switch but
anything else is just Oh okay,

896
00:56:57,390 --> 00:57:00,630
whatever if if these apps aren't
making money for the developers

897
00:57:00,630 --> 00:57:03,390
in the end the podcast is using
them then yeah, they'll go away

898
00:57:03,570 --> 00:57:07,440
but I see the opposite happening
I see as consistent increase

899
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,460
every value for value podcast
that is added is money in the

900
00:57:11,460 --> 00:57:15,870
bank for people guaranteed from
day one the minute you try it

901
00:57:15,870 --> 00:57:16,230
out

902
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:22,710
Yeah, I see what you're you
you're you're making that that

903
00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:29,160
broader sort of long term of
course argument you know and and

904
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:35,730
i agree 100% with that with with
that. I also think that what

905
00:57:35,730 --> 00:57:44,940
this what this data shows to me
is that a show have a podcast

906
00:57:44,940 --> 00:57:51,120
that's going to use pod track is
probably also a show that is

907
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:58,350
going to be motivated by getting
by attracting by going to the

908
00:57:58,350 --> 00:57:59,460
biggest platforms

909
00:58:01,230 --> 00:58:04,260
I think that's very fair to say
these are people who care about

910
00:58:04,260 --> 00:58:08,190
being the top 10 list and have
people game yes the comments and

911
00:58:08,190 --> 00:58:11,220
everything and please do that.
Yeah, of course. Of course. That

912
00:58:11,220 --> 00:58:15,930
is the that is now let me say it
right now. That's the YouTube

913
00:58:15,930 --> 00:58:20,070
game. And the YouTube game only
works when you have algorithms.

914
00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:24,150
So you know so the where do they
where are they trying to game it

915
00:58:24,180 --> 00:58:27,630
the algorithms over to iTunes or
you know the Spotify list or

916
00:58:27,630 --> 00:58:30,840
whatever that's so Okay, yeah,
that's fine that to me that's

917
00:58:31,110 --> 00:58:34,680
podcasting. 1.0 that's how we
learn to do with the first one

918
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:38,970
way around I'm like that's why
when I the minute I hear us and

919
00:58:38,970 --> 00:58:42,960
I'm saying collectively us being
put into indie podcasters or

920
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,890
indie podcast apps whoever
wherever that sources from that

921
00:58:46,890 --> 00:58:49,470
coming It's just like I'm
shutting you off because it's

922
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:54,090
not productive not that I don't
appreciate people looking at it

923
00:58:54,300 --> 00:58:59,340
and understanding the overall
industry but man i'm i'm pretty

924
00:58:59,340 --> 00:59:02,400
skeptical about you know
everything I'm reading now

925
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,300
particularly Spotify stuff and
Apple yeah maybe they're gaining

926
00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:10,260
maybe they're not but they don't
care. So they don't care over

927
00:59:10,260 --> 00:59:14,340
here podcast index we care we're
gonna care to build new things

928
00:59:14,340 --> 00:59:18,000
and make better stuff they don't
care so whatever stop writing

929
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:18,840
about them.

930
00:59:19,350 --> 00:59:21,690
I don't think Spotify cares
either go home of course they

931
00:59:21,690 --> 00:59:25,560
don't care No, here's my late
here's my latest thinking on

932
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,510
this because somebody said the
other day on the index the

933
00:59:30,510 --> 00:59:34,350
social on the mastodon that they
were surprised at how easy

934
00:59:34,860 --> 00:59:40,830
anchor made it to leave to
export their feed data out. And

935
00:59:40,860 --> 00:59:43,740
you know, thought it kind of
caught me off guard. I was like,

936
00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:47,820
you know that. That's, that is
interesting. They've already

937
00:59:47,820 --> 00:59:52,290
said that they're going to shut
off RSS feeds for new anchor.

938
00:59:53,340 --> 00:59:54,510
New RSS feeds,

939
00:59:54,570 --> 00:59:57,540
but not enable them would be the
technically correct way

940
00:59:57,780 --> 01:00:03,390
to opt in. opt in 90% of the
anchor catalogue is garbage. We

941
01:00:03,390 --> 01:00:10,320
all know that. I think that they
can't wait to get out of the RSS

942
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:15,600
game. I think they they are
looking to close the door on

943
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,170
RSS. And they just want to get
out of that game altogether

944
01:00:19,170 --> 01:00:22,950
because they understand for
them. It's not a moneymaker.

945
01:00:23,610 --> 01:00:27,090
It's a it's a call center for
them. I mean, ng anchor hat

946
01:00:27,090 --> 01:00:34,590
cannot be making any money. No.
And so, you know, I was thinking

947
01:00:34,590 --> 01:00:38,520
about that. When I read that was
sort of the backdrop of reading

948
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,280
this this wired article that
Spotify is breaking podcasts. I

949
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:42,000
don't know if you read that.

950
01:00:42,030 --> 01:00:46,350
Of course I did. Of course, I am
just amazed by the things that

951
01:00:46,350 --> 01:00:47,880
that people think and are
saying,

952
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:54,840
did they This was my favorite
part of the article says. Then

953
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,240
along came Spotify. Stoller
argues that the company is

954
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,610
trying to pull off the same
power grab, as Google and

955
01:00:59,610 --> 01:01:02,610
Facebook, take control of the
advertising and distribution

956
01:01:02,610 --> 01:01:05,790
process, and control and
monetize the entire ecosystem

957
01:01:05,790 --> 01:01:09,540
through targeted advertising. a
process known as streaming ad

958
01:01:09,540 --> 01:01:14,910
insertion, this grab would
destroy the current open system,

959
01:01:14,940 --> 01:01:17,970
because the only viable way to
get listeners and money would be

960
01:01:17,970 --> 01:01:18,930
through Spotify.

961
01:01:19,980 --> 01:01:21,090
Yep. Well,

962
01:01:21,180 --> 01:01:23,490
I'd like to, I'd like to do Yes,
I'd like

963
01:01:23,490 --> 01:01:28,680
to different part. closed loops,
referring to what you just said,

964
01:01:28,830 --> 01:01:31,740
mixed with a situation where the
primary stakeholder is an

965
01:01:31,740 --> 01:01:35,460
advertiser creates a race to the
bottom, which is terrible for

966
01:01:35,460 --> 01:01:38,460
the consumer and for creativity
more generally, when the

967
01:01:38,460 --> 01:01:42,330
advertiser is a stakeholder, a
stakeholder, how do you extract

968
01:01:42,330 --> 01:01:45,720
value from the big money you're
spending? Well, you go toward

969
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,170
tried and true content, which is
mostly but not entirely true

970
01:01:49,170 --> 01:01:53,160
crime and celebrity. And that's
it, you reduce creativity.

971
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,700
That's why I've always said you
cannot monetize the network.

972
01:01:56,730 --> 01:01:59,850
That's why I left my own
company. What I was doing was

973
01:01:59,850 --> 01:02:03,570
building NASCAR's and I had to
put all the logos over the

974
01:02:03,570 --> 01:02:09,960
windscreen Thank you. When I
left that's why I said I was

975
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:14,790
leaving they like because they
will appreciate you have to be

976
01:02:14,790 --> 01:02:19,020
brand safe and and that's where
the left that's where all the

977
01:02:19,020 --> 01:02:22,020
leverage comes from with with
the canceled culture. It's a

978
01:02:22,020 --> 01:02:25,890
sick, sick, sick ecosystem. It
doesn't work.

979
01:02:27,540 --> 01:02:31,620
Play. There's a clip in here and
I think I misspelled is Hassan

980
01:02:31,620 --> 01:02:33,690
is supposed to be Hassan. Hassan

981
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:38,160
Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah, good

982
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,100
for Okay, thing that I found
very interesting since I started

983
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:45,540
podcasting is when I tell people
that I do it, one of like, the

984
01:02:45,540 --> 01:02:49,890
first things they ask me is, are
you making any money? How are

985
01:02:49,890 --> 01:02:54,240
you making money? Are you
monetizing it? And I don't know

986
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,680
if it's because it's linked to
the career that I had before.

987
01:02:59,220 --> 01:03:03,060
But I find it very interesting
that people immediately jump on,

988
01:03:03,330 --> 01:03:06,870
are you earning any money, and
they can't understand why I

989
01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:09,840
would just do it as a hobby and
just want to create free content

990
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:15,000
for entertainment for people to
listen to. Nobody asked golfers

991
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,350
who spend 6070 pound a month on
their golf membership with their

992
01:03:19,350 --> 01:03:23,250
two 300 pound golf clubs who go
and spend four or five hours

993
01:03:23,250 --> 01:03:27,450
every weekend playing golf.
Nobody says to them, we are

994
01:03:27,450 --> 01:03:29,820
spending all this money playing
golf, how are you monetizing it?

995
01:03:30,030 --> 01:03:33,150
How are you making money from
it? Or people that mountain bike

996
01:03:33,150 --> 01:03:36,000
who spend hundreds on mountain
bikes or photography? I guess

997
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,370
maybe people might be able to
monetize photography, but you

998
01:03:38,370 --> 01:03:40,410
get my gist. If these are
hobbies that people do, they

999
01:03:40,410 --> 01:03:42,450
spend significant amounts of
money on it, and they get

1000
01:03:42,450 --> 01:03:45,270
nothing back from it
financially. And they're not

1001
01:03:45,270 --> 01:03:48,420
spending anywhere near 6070
pound for golf. It's relatively

1002
01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:51,870
cheap to podcast. But I find it
very interesting that people

1003
01:03:51,870 --> 01:03:54,330
immediately jump on how are you
monetizing this? How you doing

1004
01:03:54,330 --> 01:03:57,150
it? And I don't know if that's
just because within the podcast

1005
01:03:57,150 --> 01:04:01,440
community, there's a lot of
people who have a podcast as a

1006
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,640
sales funnel for their business.
And so monetization is very

1007
01:04:05,670 --> 01:04:08,850
important to them. I've actually
found it quite a struggle to

1008
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,940
chat with other people within
the podcasting community who

1009
01:04:11,940 --> 01:04:15,660
just do it for entertainment,
who just do it for fun, and who

1010
01:04:15,690 --> 01:04:20,130
aren't concerned about
monetizing that are operating at

1011
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:24,120
the kind of scale that I am,
which I just find very, I find

1012
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:24,930
very interesting.

1013
01:04:25,830 --> 01:04:29,850
Yeah, I understand. I think this
was the best interview that

1014
01:04:29,850 --> 01:04:33,900
they've ever done. Who would who
was this? This was on pod land

1015
01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:36,630
yesterday. Yeah. But was that
they interviewed her Her name

1016
01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:40,170
was Genevieve Hassan, aka Jen.
Yes. Genevieve I loved every bit

1017
01:04:40,170 --> 01:04:45,240
of this interview. Because this
is a this is a woman who is

1018
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,370
literally losing money on her
podcast. But then now she's

1019
01:04:50,370 --> 01:04:54,090
gotten her her podcast is now
featured on Virgin Atlantic.

1020
01:04:54,990 --> 01:04:58,110
Right, right, right, right.
Right, right. And she did it.

1021
01:04:58,170 --> 01:05:02,340
She's She's in it and purely for
the hobby purely for the love of

1022
01:05:02,340 --> 01:05:09,090
doing it. And this perfectly
illustrates not just this

1023
01:05:09,090 --> 01:05:12,090
perfectly illustrates a lot of
things. But to me, it

1024
01:05:12,090 --> 01:05:15,690
illustrates number one, the most
importantly, why the podcast

1025
01:05:15,690 --> 01:05:19,380
industry is different from so
much. It's almost unique in this

1026
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:25,980
in this aspect 40 we know that
47% of people roughly, podcast

1027
01:05:25,980 --> 01:05:28,380
just for the love of doing it.
They know they don't care about

1028
01:05:28,380 --> 01:05:33,390
making money. It's just purely
the love of being able to

1029
01:05:33,390 --> 01:05:40,530
broadcast themselves freely over
the internet for other people to

1030
01:05:40,530 --> 01:05:46,590
hear. It gives them enjoyment. I
love it. I mean, so think of

1031
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,340
literally, I don't can't think
of another industry, where

1032
01:05:50,340 --> 01:05:54,630
literally half of the entire
participants in the industry

1033
01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:00,600
don't care about making money.
And the other half only cares

1034
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:05,610
about making money or not only
but is consumed with the idea of

1035
01:06:05,610 --> 01:06:11,610
making money. That is a sort of
inherently schizophrenic

1036
01:06:11,610 --> 01:06:15,810
industry when it when it comes
to a business plan. But from a

1037
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,970
human freedom aspect,

1038
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,400
what he said, is that any
different from wonderful, is it

1039
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:25,890
any different from the music
industry. There are a lot of

1040
01:06:25,890 --> 01:06:28,860
musicians who just play because
they like playing.

1041
01:06:29,730 --> 01:06:34,050
I guess it's different to me in
my mind, because when you go out

1042
01:06:34,050 --> 01:06:39,420
there, they you can't tell a
difference. Like if I listened

1043
01:06:39,420 --> 01:06:45,690
to Genovese podcast, and then I
listened to Dax Shepard, you

1044
01:06:45,690 --> 01:06:49,530
can't tell that there's any
debt, one of them is making a

1045
01:06:49,530 --> 01:06:52,500
few million dollars a year and
the other one makes nothing

1046
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,250
isn't that great.

1047
01:06:53,580 --> 01:06:57,210
I love that. They're both on the
same screen, and I can click and

1048
01:06:57,210 --> 01:07:00,540
listen to either one of them
with one click. And that's not

1049
01:07:00,540 --> 01:07:04,890
really the case for music so
much. I mean, the it is a little

1050
01:07:04,890 --> 01:07:09,060
bit true if you taken Spotify,
but historically speaking, this

1051
01:07:09,060 --> 01:07:13,800
is to me uniquely a podcasting
thing, but that's

1052
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:21,420
why I believe that value for
value is not a monetization

1053
01:07:21,450 --> 01:07:26,460
model. It's something else, it's
building a connection with the

1054
01:07:26,460 --> 01:07:31,890
people on the other end. You
know, it's it's and where we are

1055
01:07:31,890 --> 01:07:36,750
now, as a group developing this
feedback loop into something

1056
01:07:36,750 --> 01:07:42,300
that's going to it's going to be
really important. I can feel in

1057
01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:48,810
my bones how big this is going
to be. And so you can still be a

1058
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:53,460
I love what I do. I love this
show I love and seriously, I

1059
01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:58,530
really look forward to it. Like
I get to do the show. And I

1060
01:07:58,530 --> 01:08:02,550
don't have to worry about a
single thing other than holding

1061
01:08:02,550 --> 01:08:06,330
myself accountable to people who
are listening. Who will who hold

1062
01:08:06,330 --> 01:08:11,670
me accountable. And you of
course, obviously that's it, but

1063
01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:17,280
then to get something in return
that just makes that just makes

1064
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,880
it an entire beautiful human
experience.

1065
01:08:22,980 --> 01:08:27,960
I love how this draws this has
to drive big tech crazy.

1066
01:08:29,190 --> 01:08:31,860
Well, they've been trying to
steal it from us for you know,

1067
01:08:31,890 --> 01:08:33,210
20 years. So yeah,

1068
01:08:33,239 --> 01:08:35,939
yeah. Yeah, I mean it dry. It
drives me crazy. It's such a

1069
01:08:35,939 --> 01:08:40,769
beautiful expression. podcasting
is such a beautiful expression

1070
01:08:40,769 --> 01:08:47,669
of human action and freedom of
association. It's it's a thing

1071
01:08:47,669 --> 01:08:53,609
that you know, really it does,
it does from a media standpoint,

1072
01:08:53,849 --> 01:08:57,119
what Bitcoin does, from a
financial standpoint.

1073
01:08:57,330 --> 01:09:02,670
And then we had this really
interesting hybrid pop up which

1074
01:09:02,670 --> 01:09:06,360
was another very interesting
human experience between people

1075
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,530
we we both know all of them we
don't know where they live we

1076
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,770
probably don't really know their
real names they have names like

1077
01:09:13,950 --> 01:09:20,760
blueberry and Thunder Thunder
Road and sir Spencer and and i

1078
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,990
think one or two of them I only
know by their their node ID and

1079
01:09:24,990 --> 01:09:29,940
now we have put together a
financial relationship based on

1080
01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:35,490
trust and cooperation. It should
I play this jingle because I

1081
01:09:35,490 --> 01:09:36,810
presume that's what this is for.

1082
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:44,340
Yeah. And get down down down and

1083
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,680
have fun five, podcast Ring of
Fire.

1084
01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:59,970
So Abel Kirby, so this label
Kirby's been doing great stuff.

1085
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,900
For the years, explained the
ring of fire?

1086
01:10:05,250 --> 01:10:07,500
Oh, no, I think you should
explain to me Well, this was new

1087
01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:08,760
to me as well, better than

1088
01:10:09,060 --> 01:10:14,970
it was new to me as well, the
idea is, you create a ring. So a

1089
01:10:14,970 --> 01:10:19,800
ring of channels between, we
have six, between six people

1090
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,590
have a node and these happen to
be all podcasters who have

1091
01:10:22,590 --> 01:10:25,470
nodes, and you take a
significant amount, what do we

1092
01:10:25,470 --> 01:10:30,150
do 500,000 sets was that we
needed and so each open a

1093
01:10:30,150 --> 01:10:34,200
channel to the next person in
the ring. And once we figured

1094
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:38,550
out, you know, which was a right
hand in our left hand, Dave,

1095
01:10:39,570 --> 01:10:41,700
hey, you opened in the wrong
direction?

1096
01:10:42,570 --> 01:10:44,130
No, I opened a private channel.

1097
01:10:45,450 --> 01:10:48,030
That's right, you open a private
channel. Okay, that that can

1098
01:10:48,030 --> 01:10:52,800
happen that can happen. Once we
had that all figured out, and

1099
01:10:52,890 --> 01:10:58,980
then did Abel who pushed all the
SATs through? Who started that?

1100
01:10:59,010 --> 01:11:00,480
Oh, was that sir Spencer?

1101
01:11:00,510 --> 01:11:03,600
I think it was it was my sir
Spencer. And Tony, he pushes it

1102
01:11:03,660 --> 01:11:07,350
through routing through all of
these nodes. So everybody winds

1103
01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:13,020
up with a almost perfectly
balanced 500,000. Satoshi no

1104
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,860
channel, which, by definition,
because of all the other

1105
01:11:16,860 --> 01:11:20,070
connections we have
individually, really makes us a

1106
01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:25,770
great place for, for traffic to
flow through. And I guess, you

1107
01:11:25,770 --> 01:11:31,020
know, maybe in 10, one planning,
do you think we'll make money on

1108
01:11:31,020 --> 01:11:35,760
fees on forwarding fees? Or is
it? I mean, just having great

1109
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,570
liquidity, and I like I like
doing it? I don't know what to

1110
01:11:39,570 --> 01:11:40,800
do with it. Like, yeah, we

1111
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,680
got a ring of fire. Okay, yeah,
yay, go ring.

1112
01:11:44,580 --> 01:11:46,560
It doesn't mean you always have
liquidity.

1113
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:52,740
Well, and I think that we, we're
all well connected nodes. You

1114
01:11:52,740 --> 01:11:56,580
know, we've all got sort of feel
a fingers going off the Ring of

1115
01:11:56,580 --> 01:12:00,060
Fire owed to other nodes, I
think there's a good chance that

1116
01:12:00,060 --> 01:12:03,030
we'll get and we'll get forward
and go in through us. You know,

1117
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:07,890
that's, that's something that I
think that's something I need to

1118
01:12:07,890 --> 01:12:12,120
address with what Brian of
London said about lightning? on

1119
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:17,010
his interview, is that a couple
of things, it doesn't matter.

1120
01:12:17,550 --> 01:12:20,520
You know, he he talked a lot
about what if visa shows up and

1121
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,590
has $5 billion?

1122
01:12:23,130 --> 01:12:24,840
Yeah, stick to things, you know,
Brian,

1123
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,720
a bunch of routing in it, who
cares, that's completely

1124
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,920
irrelevant, it means nothing. If
if they do that, and they've

1125
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,950
dropped their fees to zero and
suck in all the routing, that's

1126
01:12:37,950 --> 01:12:40,800
fantastic. I'd highly encourage
them to do that. They're gonna

1127
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,430
make no money off of it. And it
gives everybody awesome

1128
01:12:44,430 --> 01:12:50,760
liquidity. And yeah, if they
pull out and pull out, the

1129
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,430
network just routes around and
does everything else it's it

1130
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:56,220
means it's completely
meaningless. Because like,

1131
01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:00,570
because every transaction within
lightning isn't encrypted is an

1132
01:13:00,570 --> 01:13:06,210
encrypted hop and so they can't
they have it gains them nothing

1133
01:13:06,210 --> 01:13:09,270
to do that because they don't
get any visibility into the

1134
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:12,150
encryption they still can't see
where the where the things come

1135
01:13:12,150 --> 01:13:15,300
in where they go so right it's
it's not it's not an issue it's

1136
01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:23,640
a non issue that the other thing
was that you know strike is

1137
01:13:24,090 --> 01:13:30,000
strike gets a lot of flack but
they are they you have to

1138
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,650
remember they're a bank. Yeah,
when you when you set up a bank,

1139
01:13:34,710 --> 01:13:37,320
a strike account, you're setting
up a bank accounts just like

1140
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:42,660
PayPal. So they have they have
regulations that they have to

1141
01:13:42,660 --> 01:13:46,890
adhere to KYC and all that kind
of jazz. So you know, when

1142
01:13:46,890 --> 01:13:50,730
you're going when it comes to
these other countries and other

1143
01:13:50,730 --> 01:13:53,550
regions and that kind of thing,
it's just going to take time I

1144
01:13:53,550 --> 01:13:58,380
mean, like what I wish would
happen from a strike standpoint,

1145
01:13:58,380 --> 01:14:03,840
I wish that other companies that
are not strike in like in

1146
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,930
Australia, there needs to be a
company in Australia doing what

1147
01:14:06,930 --> 01:14:11,250
strike does and it means a
strike clone company that comes

1148
01:14:11,250 --> 01:14:16,170
up and just does when they do
and another one in Europe,

1149
01:14:16,170 --> 01:14:18,570
another one in South America. I
mean there needs to be more of

1150
01:14:18,570 --> 01:14:21,930
these companies instead of just
waiting around for one one

1151
01:14:21,930 --> 01:14:23,160
company to go do it all

1152
01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:27,150
I think that but I think we
definitely need to parallel we

1153
01:14:27,150 --> 01:14:31,710
need Uncle Jim nodes we need we
need a lot of that that I think

1154
01:14:31,710 --> 01:14:34,380
Yeah, you have to have that you
need to have the nerdy kid is

1155
01:14:34,380 --> 01:14:37,290
going to set up the mastodon
server for his kid his friends,

1156
01:14:37,290 --> 01:14:41,220
right? Yeah, you need that you
need the nerd who set up the BBs

1157
01:14:41,220 --> 01:14:43,980
and had the five phone lines. I
mean, I can just keep going back

1158
01:14:43,980 --> 01:14:48,780
in tech history. You needed the
guy who had the shell account

1159
01:14:48,780 --> 01:14:53,220
that you could, you know, tunnel
into go on and on and on and on.

1160
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,130
So I think I think it's
important to have that at the

1161
01:14:56,130 --> 01:15:00,630
same time. which is you know,
that's that's kind of what raspy

1162
01:15:00,630 --> 01:15:06,390
Blitz and Umbro are doing I
don't know,

1163
01:15:07,620 --> 01:15:10,830
having that having that fear but
the thing that makes drag so

1164
01:15:10,830 --> 01:15:16,260
beautiful is that you deposit in
fiyat. And it stays in Fiat

1165
01:15:16,260 --> 01:15:20,400
until you move it somewhere
else. Yeah. That's the beautiful

1166
01:15:20,460 --> 01:15:24,750
piece of it. It's a it's a, it's
a Fiat to crypto gateway that

1167
01:15:24,750 --> 01:15:29,340
you don't have that you're
you're not, but it's not an

1168
01:15:29,340 --> 01:15:30,180
exchange,

1169
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:36,450
can you can you go the other way
with bit refill? Can you take

1170
01:15:36,450 --> 01:15:40,470
something out of bit refill? And
then back to back to lightening?

1171
01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:44,760
I think you can. Because I don't
know, I think I think you can go

1172
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,750
to bit refill because you know,
the the big secret of bit refill

1173
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:53,520
is that you have $1 wallet in
there. So you can park funds,

1174
01:15:53,790 --> 01:15:56,580
and then you park it in there.
And it's just shows in dollars

1175
01:15:56,580 --> 01:15:59,580
and just stays dollars like that
forever. And then you can take

1176
01:15:59,580 --> 01:15:59,790
slash

1177
01:15:59,790 --> 01:16:01,410
tracking. Right, but

1178
01:16:01,410 --> 01:16:06,930
let me just see. Can you then
can you put in from Fiat into

1179
01:16:06,930 --> 01:16:11,010
bit refill into your dollar
wallet? You don't? I mean, I

1180
01:16:12,330 --> 01:16:18,630
don't know. Okay. I'll have to
figure it out. Because that

1181
01:16:18,630 --> 01:16:21,870
could be an interesting way of
doing it. Lightning, let me see.

1182
01:16:21,930 --> 01:16:27,630
Lightning is paying go both
ways. All right off to figure it

1183
01:16:27,630 --> 01:16:31,350
out. Anyway, yeah, I mean,
there's there's a barrier to

1184
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:35,820
entry, no doubt about it.
There's a barrier. But you know,

1185
01:16:35,820 --> 01:16:41,130
people getting interested.
Again, I remember, go to my web

1186
01:16:41,130 --> 01:16:45,480
page, find the little RSS orange
icon, right click on it, copy

1187
01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:50,010
the link up, then alt tab. And
now go to the plus thing and

1188
01:16:50,010 --> 01:16:54,150
then paste it and now you're
subscribed. And I remembered the

1189
01:16:54,150 --> 01:16:58,260
months and I remember when you
know, well Apple has one click

1190
01:16:58,260 --> 01:17:01,410
subscription they've won
forever. You know, it's none of

1191
01:17:01,410 --> 01:17:03,810
it's true. Just no one wins
forever in this game. It just

1192
01:17:03,810 --> 01:17:04,650
seems that way.

1193
01:17:05,130 --> 01:17:08,850
bag. That's that's what I was
saying earlier. And and it

1194
01:17:08,850 --> 01:17:11,580
drives the big tech crazy
because they can't own it. And

1195
01:17:11,580 --> 01:17:11,640
it

1196
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:16,290
was who was maybe it was on pod
land that all all of Google's

1197
01:17:16,290 --> 01:17:17,850
money. It's all advertising.

1198
01:17:18,780 --> 01:17:20,520
Yeah, that was brown. Well,
yeah. As Brown was saying that.

1199
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,200
Yeah, yeah, it's all
advertising.

1200
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,600
They don't make any they lose
money on a lot of other things.

1201
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:30,840
I'm sure. advertising is
becoming unpopular. This is what

1202
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:34,830
this is why I say Hollywood is
as good as dead. Oh, sir.

1203
01:17:36,570 --> 01:17:39,180
Yeah, that's an issue played the
Hassan part, too. I think she

1204
01:17:39,180 --> 01:17:41,130
has some good things to say. I'm
just gonna

1205
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,890
obviously continue making the
podcast for as long as people

1206
01:17:43,890 --> 01:17:48,660
want to listen to it for as long
as I'm able to have guests who

1207
01:17:48,660 --> 01:17:52,590
are happy to be on it. And when
I had wobble last year, it got

1208
01:17:52,590 --> 01:17:53,340
to the point where I was like,

1209
01:17:55,110 --> 01:18:00,630
it was I think, she talked a
little bit at one part about how

1210
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:05,520
the latest data shows that
older, like, you know, Gen X and

1211
01:18:05,580 --> 01:18:09,270
up, don't want to pay for
content for media content, but

1212
01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:11,730
in the younger generations,
they're fine with paying for it.

1213
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:17,430
That they feel like it's normal.
I think that falls into this.

1214
01:18:17,610 --> 01:18:18,360
This discussion.

1215
01:18:18,389 --> 01:18:22,469
Hmm, sure. What is it? What is
this clip you have here, which

1216
01:18:22,469 --> 01:18:27,509
is triggering me? What? I don't
know. coder radio? indie apps.

1217
01:18:28,830 --> 01:18:31,620
Yeah, this is a good clip. This
is a really good clip.

1218
01:18:31,860 --> 01:18:36,330
This is gonna trigger me. Yeah,
okay. All right. Yeah.

1219
01:18:37,410 --> 01:18:40,680
I know what Spotify did. Did hit
me up with where's this from?

1220
01:18:41,460 --> 01:18:44,580
This is from a podcast called
coder radio. And this guy's name

1221
01:18:44,580 --> 01:18:51,990
is Chris Fisher. Yeah, Chris
Fisher, he he's talking about

1222
01:18:52,350 --> 01:18:56,700
the a song about Spotify. You
know, try it. I don't know, play

1223
01:18:56,700 --> 01:18:57,210
it. You

1224
01:18:58,290 --> 01:19:02,160
know, what Spotify did? did hit
me up with a proposal. It was

1225
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,280
like super low ad rates. But it
was like guaranteed three ads a

1226
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:09,870
show. And you get access to our
music library. And I went What?

1227
01:19:10,710 --> 01:19:14,550
Let me think about that. But no,
I'm not not, like do a DJ show.

1228
01:19:15,210 --> 01:19:18,840
No, but you could, but yeah,
like if you use their PC, you

1229
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,330
have to switch your publishing
platform. You have to switch to

1230
01:19:21,330 --> 01:19:24,180
their feed servers and all that
kind of stuff. But if you

1231
01:19:24,180 --> 01:19:27,870
publish through you can you
still I I'm not sure about this.

1232
01:19:27,900 --> 01:19:29,850
I think you can still remake an
I think you can still have a

1233
01:19:29,850 --> 01:19:32,700
public RSS feed. But you have to
publish through their system.

1234
01:19:32,700 --> 01:19:36,990
But if you do that, they let you
they give you license, like a

1235
01:19:36,990 --> 01:19:40,800
radio station to their music
library. So you can you could do

1236
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,290
a DJ show, or we could have
like, you know, your favorite

1237
01:19:43,290 --> 01:19:46,920
song is our intro music, that
kind of thing. But you have to

1238
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,130
sell your soul. They own they
own you. They own the content,

1239
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,220
and they own all the ad deals
and they give you a very small

1240
01:19:53,220 --> 01:19:56,220
cut. But they give you a lot of
small cuts. I mean, have you

1241
01:19:56,220 --> 01:19:59,280
ever read the apple developer
agreement? The souls already

1242
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,490
gotta gotta Couple markers on
it. I know and Twitch is doing

1243
01:20:02,490 --> 01:20:06,390
the same thing. YouTube is going
down its dark route I tell you

1244
01:20:06,420 --> 01:20:10,890
it is the only thing that's
really gonna save podcasting is

1245
01:20:10,890 --> 01:20:15,720
if listeners continue to use and
insist they use their own

1246
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,050
podcast apps, their favorite
podcast app if they use these,

1247
01:20:19,230 --> 01:20:22,500
you know and I we have people
listening on Spotify, I am

1248
01:20:22,500 --> 01:20:25,830
grateful they listen, especially
if it's the best way or only way

1249
01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:29,790
for you to listen. But the best
thing you could do is subscribe

1250
01:20:29,790 --> 01:20:32,460
to the show at coder dot show
slash subscribe in an

1251
01:20:32,460 --> 01:20:37,830
independent podcast app that
isn't owned by Apple or Amazon

1252
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:42,090
or Spotify. I love overcast
right that's great you'll pry it

1253
01:20:42,090 --> 01:20:45,480
from my cold dead hands Hey
Whatever happened to pocket

1254
01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:47,790
casts Are they still around?
Yeah, they got bought by

1255
01:20:47,790 --> 01:20:48,180
lightning

1256
01:20:50,670 --> 01:20:54,870
Well, I think I think this is a
recognition amongst people that

1257
01:20:55,140 --> 01:20:58,230
you know yeah, these are old
time podcasters but I think

1258
01:20:58,230 --> 01:21:03,210
there's a recognition out there
that that these big companies or

1259
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,450
big tech is throwing around
deals that really don't make

1260
01:21:06,450 --> 01:21:08,820
sense for smaller podcasters at
all

1261
01:21:08,820 --> 01:21:12,360
No, no, no but this is there
with the minute you do what

1262
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,690
Spotify is doing you're in the
hits business that's what it is

1263
01:21:15,690 --> 01:21:19,980
and you're gonna get true crime
and celebrity content that's it

1264
01:21:20,010 --> 01:21:23,790
that's that's how that's and
that was the constant battle I

1265
01:21:23,790 --> 01:21:27,180
had with my own Podcast Network
I know how this works and that

1266
01:21:27,180 --> 01:21:28,860
was not even a closed system

1267
01:21:29,910 --> 01:21:33,030
it's just found it interesting
that they're that their pitch is

1268
01:21:33,420 --> 01:21:36,090
one of the one part of their
pitches you can access the music

1269
01:21:36,090 --> 01:21:37,110
catalog Yeah,

1270
01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:40,320
but from what I understand you
can't talk over the music you

1271
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,110
know there's a whole bunch of
different restrictions

1272
01:21:43,620 --> 01:21:47,250
and if you ever leave you got to
redo all of your back catalogue

1273
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:51,090
well yeah there's that but also
again I like looking forward you

1274
01:21:51,090 --> 01:21:55,350
know i'm i'm looking forward to
April Kirby with with a value

1275
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:59,160
block split on the on the new
album. Yeah, that's what I'm

1276
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,620
looking forward to and I'm
looking forward to meeting the

1277
01:22:01,980 --> 01:22:06,090
developer who creates that front
end to what we're already doing

1278
01:22:06,090 --> 01:22:07,590
and make it just pure music.

1279
01:22:09,660 --> 01:22:12,150
Speaking speaking of label
Kirby, we're gonna do some

1280
01:22:12,930 --> 01:22:13,560
things some people

1281
01:22:13,710 --> 01:22:16,440
yes, this is a very good idea.
It is indeed time.

1282
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:17,820
Here's your cue to

1283
01:22:17,820 --> 01:22:24,300
boost you know you want to it is
value for value all the way on

1284
01:22:24,330 --> 01:22:28,890
podcasting. 2.0 if you're new,
and you made it this far, we'd

1285
01:22:28,890 --> 01:22:31,740
like the value just as much as
everybody else you can do that

1286
01:22:31,740 --> 01:22:36,000
with a brand new podcasting app,
a new podcast apps calm there's

1287
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,970
a lot of different ones to
choose from certainly the ones

1288
01:22:38,970 --> 01:22:42,990
that do value for value. And if
you do you prefer to use your

1289
01:22:42,990 --> 01:22:46,260
Fiat fund coupons go to podcast
index.org at the bottom there's

1290
01:22:46,260 --> 01:22:49,860
a red Donate button and you can
send it to us via PayPal when we

1291
01:22:49,860 --> 01:22:52,890
really like thanking everybody
who is supporting the entire

1292
01:22:52,890 --> 01:22:56,850
mission of podcast index the
drive behind the namespace the

1293
01:22:56,850 --> 01:22:59,430
mastodon and of course the
podcast the board meeting which

1294
01:22:59,430 --> 01:23:03,900
is again for all the producers
who are always welcome could we

1295
01:23:03,900 --> 01:23:06,120
have again to boost the grams
first or what are we doing?

1296
01:23:06,300 --> 01:23:10,320
No no no I'm gonna do get one
Pay Pal this week one one

1297
01:23:10,500 --> 01:23:12,750
only one one off so what we're
doing is we're shifting the

1298
01:23:12,750 --> 01:23:18,540
booster grams and we're going to
go poor doing it Yes. I was I

1299
01:23:18,540 --> 01:23:22,440
was afraid of that. We're gonna
have fun That's right. Okay,

1300
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:25,050
thank god bitcoins going up it
compensates

1301
01:23:25,530 --> 01:23:34,530
$114 from Super nerd media
$114.49 Okay, and I don't know

1302
01:23:34,530 --> 01:23:38,520
if he wants me to give his real
name so I'm gonna say just super

1303
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:42,840
nerd for now. Cuz I can't tell
from the note but he says as the

1304
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:47,490
first donor. First donation know
for $114.49 All right, please

1305
01:23:47,490 --> 01:23:51,030
accept this donation, which is
$100 for a T shirt. Yeah, we got

1306
01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:54,990
you on the rose. I wonder if
we're having handheld air. He

1307
01:23:54,990 --> 01:23:56,940
won't wonder if we're having
supply chain issues

1308
01:23:56,969 --> 01:24:01,229
within t shirts. Let me let me
defragment this person first.

1309
01:24:04,169 --> 01:24:05,849
First time Thank you very much.

1310
01:24:06,420 --> 01:24:09,420
T shirt plus $10 which I hope
cover shipping and handling and

1311
01:24:09,420 --> 01:24:13,440
$4.49 because you don't need to
be paying PayPal tax. I got your

1312
01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:16,950
back. Oh, thank you. Thank you
for the work that you and Adam

1313
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:19,800
are doing and the index and
thank you for the PC 2.0

1314
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,550
podcast. Your soliloquy. They
don't care about us. We're only

1315
01:24:23,550 --> 01:24:26,130
numbers in a spreadsheet to them
was one of the best summaries of

1316
01:24:26,130 --> 01:24:29,130
the us versus them situation
I've heard. And I hope you don't

1317
01:24:29,130 --> 01:24:31,980
mind that I clipped and played
that on the barnhardt podcast.

1318
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,110
Thank you for your courage and
go podcasting.

1319
01:24:34,440 --> 01:24:40,950
Oh boy. Barnhart ever since I
published that little package of

1320
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:42,750
jingles they're showing up
everywhere.

1321
01:24:43,140 --> 01:24:45,960
Yes, I noticed that. Yeah. And
they're loud.

1322
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:47,520
loud.

1323
01:24:48,630 --> 01:24:50,730
It's really funny when you have
like a normalized

1324
01:24:51,630 --> 01:25:03,060
volume. Why are you laughing?
Shut up. Yeah shut up shut up.

1325
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,660
Anonymous play anonymous plebe
send us 10,000 SATs

1326
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,740
Oh, booster grams okay anonymous
pleiad he said

1327
01:25:13,859 --> 01:25:16,619
been streaming SAS for months
thanks for the podcasting 2.0

1328
01:25:16,619 --> 01:25:18,089
rabbit hole anonymous bleep

1329
01:25:19,980 --> 01:25:21,060
thank you very much

1330
01:25:22,170 --> 01:25:23,130
see got we got some

1331
01:25:23,130 --> 01:25:25,920
and by the way for people who
are not boosting thank you for

1332
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,770
streaming satoshis in real time
as well obviously we love

1333
01:25:28,770 --> 01:25:29,910
getting the value back

1334
01:25:30,450 --> 01:25:34,680
yeah and send us drop us maybe
drops a little tiny me a 50 cent

1335
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:38,610
boost sometime and leave a
message if you want to boost

1336
01:25:39,480 --> 01:25:43,140
Gary arts and he sent a 1776

1337
01:25:43,650 --> 01:25:51,540
patriot boost now as the French
say it is time for low boost

1338
01:25:52,110 --> 01:25:57,750
now you did a 1776 boost and
played the French I know I know

1339
01:25:58,620 --> 01:26:00,210
you're rubbing it in their face
well

1340
01:26:00,330 --> 01:26:04,320
well you know like we did learn
the republic from them and let's

1341
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,990
be honest, it was their idea
first

1342
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,929
Yeah, they just had to take it
one step too far and start

1343
01:26:09,929 --> 01:26:12,449
killing people for being
Christians in the end we'll get

1344
01:26:12,449 --> 01:26:13,289
rid of the calendar.

1345
01:26:13,980 --> 01:26:17,820
Well okay, but they also cut off
the heads of their leaders so

1346
01:26:17,820 --> 01:26:19,740
you know there's some other good
things they did

1347
01:26:20,340 --> 01:26:26,370
true. Okay. It's uh, we will we
will declare a stalemate on this

1348
01:26:26,370 --> 01:26:30,360
one. Okay. podcasting 2.0 is
changing everything The future

1349
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,150
is here. Most people just don't
know it yet. I agree here

1350
01:26:33,150 --> 01:26:36,300
of course of course. It's hot.
That's how it goes. We're in for

1351
01:26:36,300 --> 01:26:37,200
the long haul.

1352
01:26:40,530 --> 01:26:45,810
Anonymous for 1000 sets through
breeze and anonymous just says

1353
01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:46,530
okay,

1354
01:26:47,309 --> 01:26:51,359
okay. All right. Thanks
appreciate it. We'll take it

1355
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:51,959
That's good.

1356
01:26:52,620 --> 01:26:53,790
Isn't weird as boosted

1357
01:26:56,130 --> 01:27:00,660
I think did did the pod lamb
guys get a really rude one that

1358
01:27:00,660 --> 01:27:01,680
it didn't want to read.

1359
01:27:03,390 --> 01:27:04,530
You gotta read this stuff.

1360
01:27:04,530 --> 01:27:07,830
But the thing that's great
though is and James understands

1361
01:27:07,830 --> 01:27:10,620
this he said I'll take your
money anyway. Even though you

1362
01:27:10,620 --> 01:27:13,230
said something horrible to me.
Yeah, that's the beauty of it.

1363
01:27:13,230 --> 01:27:17,520
That makes you feel kind of okay
about it. If every every troll

1364
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,880
gave you a 10 sat 10,000 SATs
with every troll they did. You'd

1365
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,670
be like okay, maybe with another
it's like

1366
01:27:23,670 --> 01:27:26,190
somebody's just getting all up
in your grill and just treating

1367
01:27:26,190 --> 01:27:28,890
you like garbage and then buying
you a beer after afterwards.

1368
01:27:29,430 --> 01:27:32,580
Exactly. And here's a beer.

1369
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:38,580
Yeah. Abel Kirby since 5000 SATs
Oh man, Curio caster and he says

1370
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,610
I tried to make a podcast using
clean feet and Bluetooth but

1371
01:27:41,610 --> 01:27:44,280
there is no way to get high
quality audio and the microphone

1372
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,580
running at the same time is a
huge annoying oversight.

1373
01:27:47,790 --> 01:27:52,080
Now Bluetooth Bluetooth is scary
man a scary you know there was a

1374
01:27:52,530 --> 01:27:56,010
in the beginning when I really
started to use the noise gate.

1375
01:27:56,790 --> 01:28:01,200
As a part of my overall podcast
sound. I get a lot of emails

1376
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:05,520
saying Dude, you can't do that.
What do you mean? Well when you

1377
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:10,680
send out 00 bytes through the
system my my bluetooth thinks

1378
01:28:10,710 --> 01:28:16,320
we're done and shuts off pause
so there'll be a pause you know

1379
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:20,670
for like a second or two I like
I love pauses but everyone can

1380
01:28:20,670 --> 01:28:24,510
think up like what's happened
and then usually picks back up

1381
01:28:24,510 --> 01:28:26,490
it was just cutting out so yeah,
there's there's problems with

1382
01:28:26,490 --> 01:28:27,060
Bluetooth.

1383
01:28:27,630 --> 01:28:34,500
Yeah, that's funny. Dred Scott
35,000 SAS or Curio caster, he's

1384
01:28:34,500 --> 01:28:35,640
a machine gun.

1385
01:28:36,750 --> 01:28:44,700
Alright, so Dred Scott, who is a
big part of of this, this

1386
01:28:44,700 --> 01:28:49,650
movement? Because he has he has
been really showing everybody

1387
01:28:49,650 --> 01:28:54,780
how cloud chapters work how they
work. Separate from the podcast.

1388
01:28:55,050 --> 01:28:59,790
He does them for this podcast
for the no agenda show he does

1389
01:28:59,790 --> 01:29:04,830
it for Moe facts he does it for
the show with Laila and her dad

1390
01:29:04,830 --> 01:29:12,960
the Fun Fact Friday Yeah, Fun
Fact Friday he he's always it we

1391
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,660
have them in the in the split
for all of these shows. He's

1392
01:29:15,690 --> 01:29:19,560
always supporting me. I think
this guy is probably like a

1393
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:25,020
Bruce Wayne type. He's gotta be
a billionaire. He's got a

1394
01:29:25,020 --> 01:29:31,050
Batcave, he comes out from time
to time. chapters. And then he

1395
01:29:31,050 --> 01:29:33,510
goes back to his cave, and you
know, and then he's hosting a

1396
01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:37,200
party with all these beautiful
models and politicians and

1397
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:40,620
Hollywood people. That's what I
think Dred Scott is he's a very

1398
01:29:40,620 --> 01:29:41,640
mysterious man.

1399
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,150
Each and every now and then
somewhere, wherever, wherever he

1400
01:29:45,150 --> 01:29:49,800
lives. He just blows through the
waterfall in the bet in the in

1401
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:54,960
the automobile. The automobile.
Yeah, the dream of Bill has

1402
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,780
night on the town. comes back. I

1403
01:29:58,890 --> 01:30:03,780
do want to say drib And I said
this to the clip custodian to I

1404
01:30:03,780 --> 01:30:08,610
said when you need to take a
break just take it out and

1405
01:30:08,610 --> 01:30:12,270
please just shoot us an email
it'll all be fine. Take the

1406
01:30:12,270 --> 01:30:15,780
break you know I was so happy
the clip custodian he took a two

1407
01:30:15,780 --> 01:30:20,490
week break that was for shows
and I was so happy he did that.

1408
01:30:20,910 --> 01:30:24,120
Because I have seen it happen
people participate and now of

1409
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:29,640
course, we have a relationship
because cloud custodian and drab

1410
01:30:29,670 --> 01:30:35,760
they're getting 5% of everything
you know, so it's interesting

1411
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:39,210
how much better it works when
that's in place because I've

1412
01:30:39,210 --> 01:30:42,120
seen people burn out like crazy
and I would say you're gonna

1413
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:46,110
burn out man like just stop but
when there's when there's a

1414
01:30:46,170 --> 01:30:49,710
financial relationship involved
even though it's pretty ad hoc

1415
01:30:49,710 --> 01:30:52,380
you know, we have no paperwork
or anything actually. I think we

1416
01:30:52,380 --> 01:30:56,760
do we will send the 1099 or
something to Dr. Eric has that

1417
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:03,510
covered I hope or I presume that
relationship makes it better

1418
01:31:03,510 --> 01:31:08,220
somehow not worse. Yeah, you
know what I mean? Anyway, dread

1419
01:31:08,250 --> 01:31:10,800
you're you're a gem my friend.
Thank you so much.

1420
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,790
Yeah, that is no just says go
podcast.

1421
01:31:15,540 --> 01:31:17,670
Of course it does. And we will
let you know.

1422
01:31:23,100 --> 01:31:29,340
Okay, through breeze anonymous.
Let's see here. Okay, video

1423
01:31:29,340 --> 01:31:35,520
podcast. Host Yes. This is for
this. discombobulated. 1223 SATs

1424
01:31:36,180 --> 01:31:39,390
through breeze video podcast.
Host Yes. I was blown away when

1425
01:31:39,390 --> 01:31:44,010
I started putting clips from mm
on three spake mortals.

1426
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:48,390
Oh, hey. Oh wait, he's already
he's already on three speak not

1427
01:31:48,390 --> 01:31:49,260
with the hives.

1428
01:31:49,470 --> 01:31:54,360
Evidently. Wow. All right. Which
I will I have to I have to

1429
01:31:54,930 --> 01:32:01,950
register a complaint with the
Department of hive. Brian, you

1430
01:32:01,980 --> 01:32:04,830
are not the world's first value
for value video enabled

1431
01:32:04,830 --> 01:32:09,990
platform. That title belongs to
no agenda gates within a tube.

1432
01:32:10,050 --> 01:32:10,560
Yes,

1433
01:32:10,620 --> 01:32:14,070
but I'm happy to hear and I mean
this

1434
01:32:14,670 --> 01:32:18,270
he's getting paid now he's
getting some jack I didn't know

1435
01:32:18,270 --> 01:32:23,280
he was getting he got the bag
man. Brian, Brian. The bag man

1436
01:32:23,670 --> 01:32:28,350
the bag. Now I get it Yeah. Now
I know Chris tour. Yeah. Oh,

1437
01:32:28,350 --> 01:32:33,660
this is this is so first he got
the award, which is a nice award

1438
01:32:33,660 --> 01:32:36,450
by the way. Anybody can make up
to 30 grand you said or

1439
01:32:36,450 --> 01:32:36,960
something?

1440
01:32:37,380 --> 01:32:40,740
Yeah, yeah. And that's, that's
75 trillion

1441
01:32:40,770 --> 01:32:44,490
hive and now and now he's doing
a victory lap. He's doing a

1442
01:32:44,490 --> 01:32:48,600
little press tour. Little PR let
everyone know. That

1443
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,790
Congratulations, man. That's
right. I think he's the first

1444
01:32:50,790 --> 01:32:56,790
one to exit. He's the first exit
from podcasting. 2.0 not very

1445
01:32:56,790 --> 01:33:00,720
well. Very good. I'm proud not
proud of that. I think that's

1446
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:04,140
fantastic. I love that. And I
want everybody to make money.

1447
01:33:04,140 --> 01:33:06,120
Everybody should be making money
on this.

1448
01:33:06,510 --> 01:33:10,080
And it makes piping a better
product. Hell, yeah. Bill

1449
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:14,760
Prague's and it's 2000 SATs. And
he says in this report for and

1450
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,910
he says, that is how media
creates drama. There was no

1451
01:33:17,910 --> 01:33:22,470
hate. I was actually thinking
Daniel is just too complicated

1452
01:33:22,470 --> 01:33:26,250
for me. I understand simple
things like high spending go

1453
01:33:26,250 --> 01:33:30,480
podcasting. You're exactly right
this week create drama. That's

1454
01:33:30,480 --> 01:33:32,820
what makes booster jams
exciting. Yes,

1455
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,510
exactly. It was that means the
contest is over. Are we done

1456
01:33:36,510 --> 01:33:40,380
now? Is the hit. I like
monetizing hate. That was so

1457
01:33:40,380 --> 01:33:41,010
much fun.

1458
01:33:41,430 --> 01:33:44,700
monetizing. Hey, yes, it's built
right into the protocol

1459
01:33:44,700 --> 01:33:48,480
everybody just agree. If you
send us a booster gram we're

1460
01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:50,010
gonna twist it to our own ends

1461
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:52,920
That's right. We will make hate
out of it. Yes.

1462
01:33:54,450 --> 01:33:58,050
Brian of London and his 20,000
SATs he says pod paying is the

1463
01:33:58,050 --> 01:34:04,470
gateway drug yes it is thanks
Brian. What I want to say is

1464
01:34:04,470 --> 01:34:05,340
he's plugging this stuff

1465
01:34:05,340 --> 01:34:08,790
again he's plugging his contract

1466
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:14,160
yes 75 trillion Hi. Why don't we
get out of there Come on bro. I

1467
01:34:14,159 --> 01:34:16,589
don't mind him saying that but
what he says you know the

1468
01:34:16,589 --> 01:34:21,299
useless calculations of Bitcoin
now okay. Yeah, all right. hive

1469
01:34:21,299 --> 01:34:21,929
master.

1470
01:34:24,660 --> 01:34:30,270
Cow a bear is 10,035 sets
through cast ematic He says,

1471
01:34:30,540 --> 01:34:33,210
wish I could try to do what I
wish I could try

1472
01:34:33,210 --> 01:34:35,190
cast ematic it's iOS only isn't
it?

1473
01:34:35,849 --> 01:34:37,589
Oh, yeah. You're Yeah, you

1474
01:34:37,590 --> 01:34:40,530
can't hear good things about it.
People like oh, it's great. I

1475
01:34:40,530 --> 01:34:45,000
like I use it a lot. Yeah. I
like the I like the boost

1476
01:34:45,030 --> 01:34:47,880
booster gram editor in it
because it's full screen and I

1477
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,490
get a lot of places. A lot of
space to type.

1478
01:34:50,519 --> 01:34:51,209
Nice.

1479
01:34:51,599 --> 01:34:54,809
Nice cow, a bear since 10,035.
says

1480
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:58,199
thanks, man. today. That's a lot
of money today.

1481
01:34:58,500 --> 01:35:02,460
Oh no. He's he's about outdo
himself in a minute get ready oh

1482
01:35:02,490 --> 01:35:06,180
put your seatbelt on okay. He
says hallelujah it's raining

1483
01:35:06,180 --> 01:35:10,650
SATs whip out your Umbro okay um
bro

1484
01:35:13,139 --> 01:35:14,099
bro node

1485
01:35:15,300 --> 01:35:21,330
bro node thank you thank you
thank you

1486
01:35:22,290 --> 01:35:28,290
see that's that's a duplicate a
double printed time okay all

1487
01:35:28,290 --> 01:35:32,520
right again I'm moving on
anonymous through breeze 10,000

1488
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,880
SATs it says boost from the
breeze app Nice work boys

1489
01:35:36,149 --> 01:35:40,589
thank you thank you thank you
thank you thank you and you know

1490
01:35:40,589 --> 01:35:43,529
you you you you help out
everybody when you boost

1491
01:35:45,090 --> 01:35:47,460
bro yeah that's that's a good
point that I don't know if

1492
01:35:47,460 --> 01:35:50,970
people understand when you boost
everybody down the chain also

1493
01:35:50,970 --> 01:35:56,850
gets their cut so the app gets
their percentage the podcaster

1494
01:35:56,850 --> 01:36:01,080
gets their percentage the index
we get a percentage for the API

1495
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:06,240
and in anybody if you do the
full boost like the breeze then

1496
01:36:06,510 --> 01:36:10,830
everybody that's in the split
also gets a percentage so like

1497
01:36:11,010 --> 01:36:13,770
that's yeah you're sharing the
love sharing the

1498
01:36:13,770 --> 01:36:15,690
love yeah this is literal love

1499
01:36:17,250 --> 01:36:22,950
round of London 333 SATs I have
to boost my debut on podcasting

1500
01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:24,810
2.0 Yes you did.

1501
01:36:24,899 --> 01:36:25,439
Thank you

1502
01:36:26,610 --> 01:36:27,240
and you did

1503
01:36:28,229 --> 01:36:31,469
say Who is this and we put them
in a split that all works that

1504
01:36:31,469 --> 01:36:35,189
that went reasonably painless I
didn't realize I had to give put

1505
01:36:35,189 --> 01:36:40,799
in a special key and value for
him because I just taken his I

1506
01:36:40,799 --> 01:36:44,399
forget even though he just sent
me I just got his node ID and I

1507
01:36:44,399 --> 01:36:47,819
put it in I didn't pay attention
and then we republish the feed

1508
01:36:48,329 --> 01:36:50,399
with the with the correct
information which I just put in

1509
01:36:50,399 --> 01:36:54,389
the split editor on Curio caster
worked perfectly. He was getting

1510
01:36:54,389 --> 01:36:57,179
SATs and he could see it flow
all the way through to that damn

1511
01:36:57,179 --> 01:36:57,929
hive machine

1512
01:37:00,030 --> 01:37:03,720
all the way all the way the
little mouse the mouse trap

1513
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:05,250
flipped and the little thing
came down the

1514
01:37:05,490 --> 01:37:08,790
pong ball fell on the spoon the
spoon king over a cat

1515
01:37:12,330 --> 01:37:16,380
Okay, let's see Frank is
hilarious and a prankster of

1516
01:37:16,380 --> 01:37:17,730
booster grams Franco

1517
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:23,070
he hooked me up with the Italian
podcast festival i think i think

1518
01:37:23,070 --> 01:37:25,200
i got his name I think we got it
wrong on the last show.

1519
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:35,520
Okay, he said he said 4489 says
2689 set 3585 sets 905 sets

1520
01:37:35,550 --> 01:37:36,570
wow What's he doing?

1521
01:37:38,250 --> 01:37:39,660
He's evidently testing is

1522
01:37:41,250 --> 01:37:43,800
are these numbers have any any
important?

1523
01:37:44,190 --> 01:37:51,840
I don't know. Just random 192
SATs and 896 sat

1524
01:37:52,260 --> 01:37:55,350
just okay maybe random any
messages?

1525
01:37:56,729 --> 01:37:59,129
There are other messages all the
same on every one of them. Okay,

1526
01:37:59,159 --> 01:38:02,549
greetings from festival festival
of podcasting.

1527
01:38:02,610 --> 01:38:04,320
Ah Viva La podcast

1528
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:09,840
is Italian so is V Viva is
editor

1529
01:38:09,870 --> 01:38:12,810
that's what he asked us that's
what they asked me to say. Okay,

1530
01:38:12,990 --> 01:38:14,550
I think was Viva podcasting.

1531
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:19,830
I'm where I'm so bad at
languages 1377 sat

1532
01:38:21,300 --> 01:38:24,810
he just saying the same message
with random numbers is he having

1533
01:38:24,810 --> 01:38:26,670
a stroke maybe is what's going
on

1534
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:31,710
if you smell almonds

1535
01:38:34,140 --> 01:38:36,570
call us don't boost to grandma's
I

1536
01:38:36,570 --> 01:38:39,480
don't know how many that is
altogether yeah that's like when

1537
01:38:39,480 --> 01:38:41,370
you call the doctor and they're
like if you have an emergency

1538
01:38:41,370 --> 01:38:45,810
don't leave a message yeah not
one more Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so

1539
01:38:45,810 --> 01:38:46,560
I don't know how much well but

1540
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:50,880
yeah, we love it man. Thank you
Thank you very much. And it was

1541
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,670
fun it was fun doing my little
bit there I hope I hope you guys

1542
01:38:53,670 --> 01:38:56,580
got some nice feedback I've no
idea how that went there's no

1543
01:38:56,580 --> 01:38:58,920
Italians emailing me so who
knows?

1544
01:38:59,610 --> 01:39:02,070
Well that might be good. Not
emailing you with hate

1545
01:39:03,750 --> 01:39:05,730
but since it's pick on Adam week

1546
01:39:06,209 --> 01:39:11,609
now it's a 5000 SATs anonymous
through breeze and says my first

1547
01:39:11,609 --> 01:39:14,369
V for V boost Dame Jennifer's
irresistible

1548
01:39:19,410 --> 01:39:20,400
top secret boyfriend

1549
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:24,450
do bf I'm gonna meet the new BMC
I'm gonna meet the new bf at at

1550
01:39:24,450 --> 01:39:25,560
the ball strap meet up

1551
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:29,130
Oh Is she coming out there? Yeah
well that's a that's a long

1552
01:39:29,430 --> 01:39:34,710
few 130 people are coming they
had to stop they said no more

1553
01:39:34,710 --> 01:39:36,810
note no one else can come we're
full

1554
01:39:37,410 --> 01:39:40,230
yeah it's gonna end up being
like a like Woodstock 99

1555
01:39:40,260 --> 01:39:42,240
they have a parking attendant

1556
01:39:43,050 --> 01:39:43,830
jeez

1557
01:39:45,210 --> 01:39:46,920
these people are super mad.

1558
01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:48,960
Yeah cuz you're gonna you're
gonna end up having to get

1559
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,120
permits I'm thinking I should
probably go strapped you

1560
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,250
know, it's like a lot of people
there could be some idiots I

1561
01:39:53,250 --> 01:39:56,190
gotta be I gotta be I gotta be
packing heat.

1562
01:39:56,969 --> 01:39:59,369
He starts it starts as made up
for you know, it's

1563
01:39:59,370 --> 01:40:05,070
a shootout. Is the shoot out
direction oh yeah well there

1564
01:40:05,070 --> 01:40:06,570
will be spooks there for sure.

1565
01:40:07,380 --> 01:40:12,060
Sir Sir Pete sent us 5000 SATs
through the fountain app and he

1566
01:40:12,060 --> 01:40:15,210
says love the story of Brian of
London gonna go trust them

1567
01:40:15,210 --> 01:40:16,890
emojis now go podcasting

1568
01:40:16,950 --> 01:40:22,170
all right thank you sir peaks
are paid has been around a long

1569
01:40:22,170 --> 01:40:25,500
time he's been in the he's been
with us a long time.

1570
01:40:27,180 --> 01:40:31,170
And another 1776 boosts
anonymous through through breeze

1571
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:35,610
Oh, it's not anonymous. This is
from Max Hillenbrand ah Hello my

1572
01:40:36,390 --> 01:40:39,450
love you guys I'll shower you
with impossible feature request

1573
01:40:39,450 --> 01:40:39,750
to

1574
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:43,290
spray in the SATs.

1575
01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:50,040
Yeah, Liberty sets and Marissa
ski Oscar Mary gave us a second

1576
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:51,720
shoes and which

1577
01:40:52,050 --> 01:40:54,120
I heard is also a row of ducks.

1578
01:40:55,350 --> 01:40:58,410
Oh, is that what the that's I
can see. Yeah.

1579
01:40:59,100 --> 01:41:04,050
So if you do a two to six zero
that's a duck duck go donation

1580
01:41:05,970 --> 01:41:08,100
like that you're welcome back

1581
01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:09,840
thank you thank you Oscar no
message.

1582
01:41:10,770 --> 01:41:14,640
We understand you don't always
have to say we know we'd like to

1583
01:41:14,910 --> 01:41:15,630
we'd love you to

1584
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:20,610
and he's been programming he
didn't have time to Franco

1585
01:41:20,910 --> 01:41:24,630
Franco celerio again 1000 sets
and he says it was actually me

1586
01:41:25,290 --> 01:41:30,150
with Italian festival did the
intro in Italian was great.

1587
01:41:30,179 --> 01:41:33,059
Oh okay, so my joke did work.

1588
01:41:33,510 --> 01:41:36,000
Can we have independent
confirmation that the joke that

1589
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:43,080
the joke went off Chad Pharaoh
3333 sets through fountain he

1590
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:46,170
says Adam and Dave Can we please
have a moment of silence for the

1591
01:41:46,170 --> 01:41:53,340
pod friend iOS beta oh no you
can't it's been resurrected

1592
01:41:53,370 --> 01:41:57,600
It's okay It's okay actually I
that's why I asked you earlier

1593
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:05,460
because always have that
already. But no, it's back

1594
01:42:05,460 --> 01:42:07,260
there's no need to pay played
taps.

1595
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:13,020
The reports of its death are
premature. Yes. 2200 exaggerated

1596
01:42:13,020 --> 01:42:18,780
and exaggerated. The C 2200 for
SATs were from anonymous to the

1597
01:42:18,780 --> 01:42:23,760
pod friend app. It says how much
how much satoshis are flowing

1598
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:26,550
through the systems daily hmm

1599
01:42:28,530 --> 01:42:30,270
I don't know anymore.

1600
01:42:31,740 --> 01:42:34,560
I can get that information for
the next show. Yeah let's it's

1601
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:35,310
all in the database.

1602
01:42:35,610 --> 01:42:38,640
Yeah, what will be interesting
most interesting me is number of

1603
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:43,470
transactions and then obviously
if we can break out streaming by

1604
01:42:43,470 --> 01:42:47,580
boosts and then what it's never
gonna be it's just gonna be

1605
01:42:47,580 --> 01:42:52,830
approximate right? When he SATs
but but I think the number of

1606
01:42:52,830 --> 01:42:56,790
transactions is extremely
interesting to me. It's like

1607
01:42:56,790 --> 01:42:58,380
hash rate for Bitcoin you know?

1608
01:43:00,810 --> 01:43:01,410
Let's see.

1609
01:43:02,430 --> 01:43:07,260
Are you doing SQL as we speak
Select star from looking

1610
01:43:07,260 --> 01:43:08,040
at our daily

1611
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:12,060
from

1612
01:43:12,210 --> 01:43:13,410
the more of that star

1613
01:43:15,149 --> 01:43:18,809
I told you I wanted RM sh

1614
01:43:20,250 --> 01:43:27,930
All right. Oh yeah, don't do
that was bad. Okay, we had a

1615
01:43:27,930 --> 01:43:34,410
total of over the last 24 hours
at 2711 transactions ever sizes

1616
01:43:35,220 --> 01:43:39,360
against that payment over the
last 24 hours we had 2711

1617
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:40,350
transactions

1618
01:43:42,090 --> 01:43:47,460
2711 transaction an average was
16 sacks SATs.

1619
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:53,190
SATs yeah 24 hours before that
was 781 transactions with an

1620
01:43:53,190 --> 01:43:57,660
average of 178 SATs. So I'll
have to be I've got

1621
01:43:57,660 --> 01:44:01,500
to do some wizardry some average
some wizardry on this and then

1622
01:44:01,500 --> 01:44:04,440
that's just our system but then
we have to extrapolate that for

1623
01:44:04,440 --> 01:44:06,600
how everyone else is doing Do we
have any idea

1624
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:12,990
those are original amounts
coming through so that I'm not

1625
01:44:12,990 --> 01:44:17,850
sure that represents anything
and I'll bring stats next time.

1626
01:44:18,450 --> 01:44:23,340
Cool. Let's see. Anonymous
through breeze Oh is not an

1627
01:44:23,340 --> 01:44:29,580
armistice is 3300 SAS he says so
cool. It's so cool to hear your

1628
01:44:29,580 --> 01:44:32,640
own oh here so cool to hear your
own boost came true about the

1629
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:35,310
nerdy stuff Terry at in a social

1630
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:36,780
Thank you very much. Thank

1631
01:44:36,780 --> 01:44:44,130
you for Thank you, Terry. Ghost.
Here is cow a bear 100,000 SATs

1632
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:50,070
holy crap. I wasn't ready for
this. Okay. Yes, he

1633
01:44:50,070 --> 01:44:55,080
says Bala cola 20 inch blades on
the previous prom go off in

1634
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:55,770
podcasting

1635
01:44:55,830 --> 01:45:05,430
shot Kala blades on the Impala.
I'm sorry you're good good well

1636
01:45:05,430 --> 01:45:07,860
I talked to him about it I said

1637
01:45:07,860 --> 01:45:08,490
okay with it

1638
01:45:08,550 --> 01:45:11,550
yeah of course he said I said no
I just I just want to tell you

1639
01:45:11,550 --> 01:45:15,300
man we've been stealing this for
podcasting 2.0 is it now no no

1640
01:45:15,300 --> 01:45:20,610
no we we share we lend and
borrow he says I know we're

1641
01:45:20,610 --> 01:45:23,100
doing mo karma. Where do you
think that came from? It's a

1642
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:23,550
good point.

1643
01:45:24,930 --> 01:45:29,220
Nice Yeah. I don't you're not a
gamer. So you don't you're not

1644
01:45:29,220 --> 01:45:31,770
going to get this reference. But
there's a game called Marvel vs

1645
01:45:31,770 --> 01:45:39,900
Capcom, which is like it has
these crazy like, moves where

1646
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,630
you'd like launch an attack at
somebody in the whole screen

1647
01:45:42,630 --> 01:45:46,380
shakes and craps blowing up and
there's lasers. All kinds of

1648
01:45:46,380 --> 01:45:52,050
crap coming out. Like this is
what I see in my head when call

1649
01:45:52,050 --> 01:45:56,280
a bear since 100,000 says he's
the voice of Dragonball Z guy.

1650
01:45:56,729 --> 01:45:59,069
Oh, right. Right right. Right
right

1651
01:45:59,100 --> 01:46:02,400
explosion of sass coming
through, you know, and like

1652
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:04,950
shaking the screen and
everything you'd like, in yo

1653
01:46:04,950 --> 01:46:08,160
just, you know Satoshi blast
it's just some kind of huge you

1654
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:08,940
know, crazy crap.

1655
01:46:09,210 --> 01:46:14,010
Well, for me that would be
Street Fighter two dhalsim Yes,

1656
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:18,090
yes. Yeah, I mean, that's where
I kind of left gaming. I was I

1657
01:46:18,090 --> 01:46:23,340
was pretty good at that.
dulcimer that long ass leg that

1658
01:46:23,340 --> 01:46:27,330
could come up Yeah, and the fire
yeah, oh yeah. I like that guy.

1659
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:27,900
He was good.

1660
01:46:28,890 --> 01:46:34,230
Thank you cow man. That was
awesome. James Cridland 2222

1661
01:46:34,230 --> 01:46:39,180
second shoes nice. Through the
fountain nap. He just he just

1662
01:46:39,180 --> 01:46:40,320
says go podcasting.

1663
01:46:42,510 --> 01:46:43,170
James

1664
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:45,540
James I want to hear the route
booster grant.

1665
01:46:45,899 --> 01:46:49,859
Yes. Yeah, what's wrong with you
man? Sounds

1666
01:46:49,860 --> 01:46:56,310
cool. See anonymous? No, that
was me. You sent a bra.

1667
01:46:56,939 --> 01:46:58,229
You sent a rude booster gram

1668
01:46:58,559 --> 01:47:02,579
Yeah. Oh a cow. I don't know if
this is called a bear or not. It

1669
01:47:02,579 --> 01:47:05,939
just says cow that he said love
the work you guys are doing if

1670
01:47:05,939 --> 01:47:08,159
y'all want some fresh
cranberries let me know I grow

1671
01:47:08,159 --> 01:47:09,179
them and it's harvest season.

1672
01:47:09,570 --> 01:47:12,540
Oh hell yeah. I'd love some
cranberries. Definitely.

1673
01:47:12,750 --> 01:47:17,160
Definitely. That's one thing man
podcasters and their listeners.

1674
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:21,000
It's amazing how many homemade
products you wind up with. I've

1675
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:26,850
got everything from cheese
that's homemade. To CBD solve to

1676
01:47:26,850 --> 01:47:30,300
holsters I mean this this
there's nothing people don't

1677
01:47:30,300 --> 01:47:33,150
make I love it and they're
always sharing that stuff.

1678
01:47:34,470 --> 01:47:37,770
Yeah, I love cranberries and it
keeps the keeps the urinary

1679
01:47:37,770 --> 01:47:40,650
tract nice and clean. Right.

1680
01:47:40,979 --> 01:47:46,229
Okay. TMI TMI.

1681
01:47:46,979 --> 01:47:51,359
We get 100 set boost from
anonymous through breeze and the

1682
01:47:51,359 --> 01:47:53,369
messages butthead.

1683
01:47:54,510 --> 01:47:55,320
Okay, thanks

1684
01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:58,500
okay. I don't know if he's
talking about you or me but

1685
01:47:58,530 --> 01:47:58,980
whenever

1686
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:03,510
it's alright. It makes one of us
Beavis so I guess it's just as

1687
01:48:03,510 --> 01:48:03,990
bad

1688
01:48:06,180 --> 01:48:09,720
so blueberry sent me a note and
he said that he sent what I

1689
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:18,690
think is an 80,000 set what
boost fat streaming but but I

1690
01:48:18,690 --> 01:48:22,350
don't he says he he says he's
not sure if his note get

1691
01:48:22,350 --> 01:48:26,070
attached and I couldn't find it
in my email. So I'm going to get

1692
01:48:26,070 --> 01:48:28,950
it. This happened before one
time with Dred Scott and had to

1693
01:48:28,950 --> 01:48:30,180
get it to get in the database.

1694
01:48:30,660 --> 01:48:33,330
Did you find the payment or just
not the note?

1695
01:48:34,139 --> 01:48:38,219
Found it I ended up finding it
all. Oh, okay. And so I need to

1696
01:48:38,219 --> 01:48:40,829
dig for it. So this came in late
Rob for the show. So I'm gonna

1697
01:48:40,829 --> 01:48:43,949
have to go look for that. I'll
bring it next week. Okay. All

1698
01:48:43,949 --> 01:48:49,679
right. Monthly donors. The
Supreme Leader of the pod verse

1699
01:48:49,679 --> 01:48:55,199
Miss Downey $10. Thank you,
Mitch. Chris Shara, Barak, and,

1700
01:48:55,739 --> 01:48:59,639
Chris. I would love to for you
to send me an email and tell me

1701
01:48:59,639 --> 01:49:02,669
where the name Chara Bart comes
from? Because that's an

1702
01:49:02,669 --> 01:49:07,259
interesting name. $10. Jeremy
Kavanaugh, no relation to the

1703
01:49:07,259 --> 01:49:11,909
Supreme Court Justice $10.
Jeffrey Rutherford $5 Chris

1704
01:49:11,909 --> 01:49:17,249
Cowan $5 Oh, Alice gates, Sir
Alex gates, the podcasting 2.0

1705
01:49:17,249 --> 01:49:18,749
consultant $25.

1706
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:24,210
Is that I didn't know that was
his his moniker. Yeah,

1707
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:25,710
this is official title. Oh,

1708
01:49:26,130 --> 01:49:29,430
I love that. 2.0 consultant
teams, right. I just need I need

1709
01:49:29,430 --> 01:49:32,100
to know when someone asked me I
can say Well, I know a

1710
01:49:32,100 --> 01:49:36,300
consultant. I can hook you up
with all my consultant buddies.

1711
01:49:36,300 --> 01:49:36,990
You kidding me?

1712
01:49:37,740 --> 01:49:40,530
David Norman $25. Fly for Dave.

1713
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:41,970
How's it doing?

1714
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:46,410
I don't know. He's, he just
pipes in every now and then with

1715
01:49:46,410 --> 01:49:50,010
a little bit of love. Yeah.
Okay. I feel like we need a

1716
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,980
flint, some kind of Fletcher
Piper catcher.

1717
01:49:53,970 --> 01:49:59,070
To make sure he's still alive.
Just David has a pulse. He's got

1718
01:49:59,070 --> 01:50:00,870
a kid. He's barely You live
Trust me.

1719
01:50:01,140 --> 01:50:04,860
That's true. Yeah. Derek j
visca. Great name $21 Paul

1720
01:50:04,860 --> 01:50:06,960
Saltzman our buddy $2 I'm

1721
01:50:06,990 --> 01:50:08,190
always there. Thank you Paul.

1722
01:50:08,939 --> 01:50:15,479
Damon Cassie jack another great
name. $15 Sean Miller $10 I feel

1723
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:19,649
like I don't know what country
he's from Sweden. Sweden. Is

1724
01:50:19,649 --> 01:50:23,279
that it? Okay. It's like sore
sore and son of Odin. There's

1725
01:50:23,279 --> 01:50:25,319
some kind of like sore. What
does the Oh have

1726
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:29,910
a line through it? Yes. Okay,
Sweden. Okay, just guess Jeremy

1727
01:50:30,030 --> 01:50:34,260
Jeremy Gertz fifth $5. And
Thomas Sullivan, Jr. $5.

1728
01:50:34,770 --> 01:50:38,640
Wow. Thank you all. Thank you so
much for keeping the project

1729
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,700
moving forward. All we ever
asked for is time talent

1730
01:50:41,700 --> 01:50:45,060
treasure. A lot of you brought
all three. So appreciated love

1731
01:50:45,060 --> 01:50:48,780
the booster grams. You're seeing
how it can be done. It works.

1732
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:53,970
And you're all making it happy
to happen. And we should all be

1733
01:50:54,330 --> 01:50:59,340
making little bits of pieces of
satoshis I just love it. I love

1734
01:50:59,340 --> 01:51:02,280
it. I love it. I love that we're
stalking a man. I can't say it

1735
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:05,250
enough. What do we where do we
start off with this show? What

1736
01:51:05,250 --> 01:51:05,940
was Bitcoin?

1737
01:51:06,899 --> 01:51:13,739
Oh 2016 16,000 that right? Now
remember, it's

1738
01:51:13,740 --> 01:51:15,780
now 61,400

1739
01:51:16,860 --> 01:51:18,840
Oh, wow. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

1740
01:51:18,839 --> 01:51:22,289
Well, it crashed down again.
Don't worry. Whatever you do,

1741
01:51:22,289 --> 01:51:28,439
don't get happy. That's not
gonna be it. But you know, from

1742
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:31,979
a technical perspective, I can
see 73 and then 100 something

1743
01:51:33,540 --> 01:51:39,900
do you have in these pictures in
the clip list? pictures. There's

1744
01:51:39,900 --> 01:51:43,800
an Adam Curry and Brett
Weinstein. Oh, I do see Adam

1745
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,080
Curry. Okay, so don't don't up
in the Adam Curry.

1746
01:51:46,110 --> 01:51:48,390
Okay, I'm not I have not opened
it. I'm closing it without

1747
01:51:48,390 --> 01:51:49,290
looking out. Okay,

1748
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:52,469
open the Brett Weinstein red
wine. These are just, I don't

1749
01:51:52,469 --> 01:51:56,279
remember how I got these. But
these are from Google. Do you

1750
01:51:56,279 --> 01:52:00,119
see the description on the left
the bio? American podcaster

1751
01:52:00,359 --> 01:52:03,029
Yeah, Brett Weinstein American
podcast are now open the Adam

1752
01:52:03,029 --> 01:52:04,409
Curry and see what it says you
are.

1753
01:52:06,570 --> 01:52:07,620
Okay.

1754
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:14,280
Announcer

1755
01:52:18,570 --> 01:52:21,570
corner we've got Brett
Weinstein, the American podcast.

1756
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,600
Rock Bottom Korean. Let's go.

1757
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,120
You are not a podcaster you're
I'm an

1758
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,730
announcer I don't know. I think
that's kind of a step down.

1759
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:34,320
Announcer sounds pretty lame. I

1760
01:52:34,950 --> 01:52:35,790
think it does.

1761
01:52:37,170 --> 01:52:42,060
Worse than MTV vj thanks Google
for show sir. It's probably says

1762
01:52:42,060 --> 01:52:46,080
that I might Wikipedia or some
crap like that. You're not

1763
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:47,520
allowed to change yourself.

1764
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:50,340
I gotta get back to work. Yeah,
I

1765
01:52:50,340 --> 01:52:52,920
know. You've got to go save the
world. Make sure that no one

1766
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:55,950
pays too much tax. Dave, thank
you so much for everything

1767
01:52:55,950 --> 01:52:58,440
you've been doing. Certainly in
these past two months where I

1768
01:52:58,440 --> 01:53:02,190
know that you have you had a
September 15 corporate tax

1769
01:53:02,190 --> 01:53:06,360
deadline and then the October
15. And, and you're so slick at

1770
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:11,310
everything you do that I even
forgot you had a job. It's true.

1771
01:53:11,340 --> 01:53:13,950
Yeah, it's true. I actually
still have one that well and

1772
01:53:13,950 --> 01:53:16,530
I'm glad that families really
thankful for that.

1773
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:22,590
Yes. Brother, I hear you. You
are the pod sage. Have a great

1774
01:53:22,590 --> 01:53:23,340
weekend. Dave.

1775
01:53:23,820 --> 01:53:25,530
Yeah, you too, man. I'll see you
next time.

1776
01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:27,570
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