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podcasting 2.0 for December
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social I'm Adam curry here in
the heart of Hill Country Texas

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and Alabama ladies Look at that
smile my friend on the other end

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Mr. Dave Jones

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so much for the Bitcoin to
100,000 by the end of the year

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for ELA how terrible does that
look?

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Well it's funny you say that um
wow, that was abrupt. Nice fade

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out occurring Yeah, well just
want to write blouse Fade to

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black. Hey look, if you can't
cover it up, turn it up right

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with the guitar player for
promise used to say said if you

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ever mess up do it two or three
more times, you know think you

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meant to?

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It's exactly right. I heard it
from a good guitar player as

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well. Yes. As you can if you
can't cover it up, turn it up. I

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wish it was the my buddy who's
Chief Financial Officer of

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Marvel Entertainment. Not the
movie side. But you know the

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interestingly the NFT side and
the

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nifty Oh yeah. Oh, they're they
did NF T's.

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But I can't he told me how much
they're making a week. I can't

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divulge that. It's crazy. We'll
talk about we're gonna world has

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gone into the I know we promised
to talk about NF T's we'll get

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there. Anyway, he's saying hey,
man, cuz he's really good guys.

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But he's, I think he's really
he's obviously very smart. But

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he comes across as kind of like,
I don't know, you know, kinda

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like a dumb guy, but he's not
like, stealthy you know, he's

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still hustler. He's a hustler,
huh yeah, that's possible.

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He's very I don't know but this
game of pool

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Exactly. And but he's he's very
giving with his information his

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knowledge his stories, but he's
very quiet guys always listening

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Oh, you can tell he's always
sucking up the information. So

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he's been following podcasting
2.0 and lightning and and what

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we're doing obviously, and
Bitcoin he says, you know, so

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why is Bitcoin going down? And,
you know, I thought about it for

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a second. I said, well, first of
all, there's no unlike Wall

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Street, there's no circuit
breakers. When it goes crazy one

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way or the other. No one's there
to intervene and stop

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so Oh, there's just handlebars,
you just hang on these straps.

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Oh, Jesus. Oh, geez. Here we go.
And to whenever I see as in the

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past two weeks, pundit after
pundit coming on CNBC and ever

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all bitcoins gonna go to 100,000
before the end of the year, you

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know, that's the setup is just
always like, Oh, it's what was

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the El Salvador El Salvador
tomorrow? It's gonna be legal

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currency. It's gonna go to the
moon.

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Yes, like the oil it's gonna get
$100 a barrel. It's like oh,

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well, here we go. Yes. Get ready
to sell your oil because it's

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about to tank. Yeah.

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So that's now is there any
reason for not to spike now of

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course. I mean, you know, if you
look at the chart, I am a

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Technical Analyst when it comes
to this kind of stuff. You're

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classically trained in the jack
Ponty day trading scheme. We

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have had consistent three weeks
of higher highs, higher lows. So

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you know, the trend is there.
And what are

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looking at the Fibonacci. Oh,
yeah, I'm

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all about the, you know, all the
shoulders you know, Fibonacci,

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Fibonacci time timeframes, that
kind of stuff. I love that shit

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cup and handle. Those are
patterns. I'm much more on the

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podcast, I've forgotten all the
names but all those individual

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models that show you know
trailing indicators as a couple

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of leading Well, I used to do
all that shit and I was really

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good at it. Except I would I
would choke does okay. I

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wouldn't really handle the press
you know? It's like I could do

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it with like 500 bucks 1000
bucks maybe like okay, you know

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what I was like dude, you want
to make $100,000 today so yeah,

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okay, do it with the $10,000
like

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your hair your your fingers
hover and I could not

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and I couldn't do it and I
couldn't see straight that and

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to fund that that stuff and I
did make money but you know not

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not like a hell of a lot because
I just didn't have the balls I

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that's what I sold my 65 Bitcoin
to learn how to do that is the

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most expensive stupid lesson
I've ever ever invested in.

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Yeah, I'm gonna take a ticket
options course. Bitcoin as

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always, I always love those guys
are like, Yeah, I went to option

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you know, to learn how to do
options. That's where you can

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make all the money I'm like,
dude, You're about to get so

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fried.

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Oh, yeah. So many of my friends
are now you can see them slowly

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starting to get more interest.
Like even the former New York

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banker, me sending me articles
on lightning. How there's Well,

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yeah, this so there's all and
people just see that just more

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interested now they're more
interested and they want to know

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what's going on they'd like, you
know, no one really understands

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why is Bitcoin better than
Aetherium? You know, actually,

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before we continue, I want to
say, Okay, now what the heck

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great job Gigi, did you read his
article on? Value for value? Oh

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my god. Yeah.

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That was it when that guy when
that guy breaks out the keyboard

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and starts writing, it's always
gonna be good. Yeah. Just know.

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He just knows it.

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What does he What does his
background? I know you talked to

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him, but I can't remember. I
can't remember what it was a

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software engineer

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who's not anonymous? I think so.
But he's an anonymous Bitcoin

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guy. And he takes his eminent
anonymity very seriously. So I

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think like when he was on that
show with Jordan Peterson, he,

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you know, had his face covered
and everything. I mean, I think

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he's, I don't know, the FBI
knows exactly who he is. But he

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knows his stuff to great guy to
have talked to him personally a

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few times with helping when he
helped out with the value for

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value spec, and doing document
review and that kind of thing.

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And, by the way, if I sound like
I'm new film sound sound like a

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minute can I'm sick again,
again. So that's, I woke up with

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a fever this morning. Have this
anyway, that's it that

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I need. I need to get better
partners. I mean, he's just

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lately, I've got one who was too
old, you know, I got one who's

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just sick.

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You got tinycam? On one? Yeah,
okay. In a Joe Biden. On the

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other side,

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the the title of the article is,
and I have a link in the show

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notes, the freedom of value, how
value for value fixes the

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monetization of information. And
I took two quotes from it. One

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is actually this is this is the
one I tweeted this free speech

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platforms cannot exist, only
free speech protocols can exist.

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Yes. Hello,

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I fully agree with that, of
course, that's the thing. So

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thinking about Alex gates,
people misunderstand him a lot

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on the forum. Because the what
he's has been preaching the

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whole time is protocols, not
products. Because the protocol

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is where the is where the the,
the freedom and the design, sort

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of meat. You can't take. You can
anybody can make products, no

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come and go. But the protocols
we can see with local RSS, OPML,

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all the web, all the open web
protocols, activity, pub, they

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all live forever. And that's
where if you create if you

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design a good protocol, and it
doesn't mean that you're always

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going to be right, I mean,
people are gonna make are gonna

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design protocols they think are
great, they're gonna fail. But

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if you just focus on that as
your as your goal as designing

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the protocol, then as being
open, free, decentralized, all

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these all these things. That's
where the magic happens. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's so he makes he makes
that case. He makes that case

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very well. And in this articles,

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what Bitcoin is, yeah,

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I mean, yeah. And I think that
article will help, we'll help a

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lot of people.

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To you, I think it's a maximum
it's amino to max Hillebrand

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moment where you just need
somebody that really knows how

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to speak to really knows how to
speak to, to the simple aspect

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of the thing. Like I don't like
saying simplify it because it

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makes it sound like people are
too stupid to understand it. But

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it is actually a fairly simple
thing. But you need somebody who

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can get to the simple parts and
pull those out and make those

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the main focus that he's good
at.

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Yeah. And so well, there's two
parts to add the value for

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value, which I think Gigi really
explains well. And then the tech

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technical implementation we're
looking at with podcasting 2.0

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it last night teen and it is a
very Texas thing. And it was of

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course a Texas boy who forced us
into it and man am I happy Sir

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Mark Hall? Who's Who's I think
he's from East Texas,

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originally, Houston. 15 minutes
from our house is the hilltop

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cafe. which like I said, that's

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a good that's a good name.

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Have you ever heard of this of
this joint? No. So the hilltop

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Cafe is owned by us guys at
Johnny's name and Johnny's like

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the old blues music musician,
you know, early 70s Probably.

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It's been there. It's Roadhouse.
It's, it's on i It's on 87. It's

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totally eroded. House, they have
a fantastic kitchen and a stage.

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And last night we went there.
They have seating for about 50

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people, you know, just just a
regular play very good food. I

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mean they even see me serving
eschar go, which is like eschar

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goes that

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snails was that plant class in
Texas. Roadhouse food.

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Yeah. And it was a classic. Yes.
And it was all local people. And

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Jimmy Vaughn played. And oh, 50
people, Dave, it and Jimmy

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Vaughn just hit 70. But you
know, there's a house band is

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there and Johnny's plan, and
they did probably do a two hour

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set is just phenomenal. And
here's Jimmy Vaughn and Johnny

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and they bring out the tip jar.
And I'm thinking and of course

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everyone's you know, stacking
this thing. Like, oh my god with

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this, we are so so ready to do
this when guys like that, to

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understand that value. And the
people in the audience

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understand that value and don't
think Oh, Jimmy Vaughn doesn't

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need my money. You know, all
these I just wanted to, you

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know, spray SATs all over. I'm
like, Come on, man. We can do

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better than this. We could do
better than that jar. This cash

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thing is no good anymore. It's
not working for us. It's just

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the world is primed for this,
then, you know with Abel Kirby

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in the

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house about a year do two words.
Mmm, no. Four. Go for it. Go for

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it. Abel in the wolf. If you
haven't, yeah, look, look it up

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on a podcast app, new pod on a
new podcast app and listen to

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that thing. I mean, that's just,
that's going straight to the

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straight to the direct to the
listener. There's nothing in

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between. And there's no there's
no label, there's no publisher.

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It's just straight night.
Here's, here's the music. It's

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done. And here you can have it.
If you like it, give me some

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value. Right. So pure. It's just
like the Jimmy Vaughn. Yeah,

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passing the bucket around. Just
I mean, I'm gonna play for you.

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You don't have to give me any,
any, any money. But if you

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don't, you know, why wouldn't
you? What I

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really appreciate about the Abel
and Abel in the wolf calm about

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the project is that they, you
know, they explain value for

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value. And they need to go into
their own version of it, which

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is perfect. And how you can get
into it and why and what to do.

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And they have splits. They have
individual splits. Yeah, they

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do. Right? They got sir Spencer,
Abel Kirby, it's split up, which

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is an LS interesting. I was just
looking at the feed here. And in

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the role, or the person tag.
Group equals writing role equal

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songwriter about that. Is that
Yeah, I didn't know that was in

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there.

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That's part of this podcast
taxonomy. I love this. Yeah,

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yeah. Yeah, that's the that's
that magic, the magic of

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marrying the taxonomy project to
the person tag. Beautifully

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seamless. Beautiful. I mean,
literally, they you can think

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about it that way you could
suck. That's this stuff right

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into a man. I know. This is not
a movie. If it was a

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documentary, you could suck that
stuff right into IMDB.

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Yeah. So I was talking to Mark
he, you know, he's graciously

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given us his killing Ed
documentary for podcasting. 2.0.

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And we're gonna we're gonna get
there. I mean, it's there. He's

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ready to go and promote once
apps can understand it. And you

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know, we're a little bit further
down the road. But he's saying

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the same thing. Medium. Yeah,
the medium tech. Exactly. He's

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saying the same thing. So I
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really working there is no,
there is no outlet. He was a

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key, of course, he's a film guy.
And he says, Netflix is going to

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spend 66 $0 billion on content
this year, Amazon will spend $30

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billion on content. And none of
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know, these types of projects.
They have a substantial

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documentary budget, but it's
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Unabomber, that kind of stuff.
You know, it's not necessarily a

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little more esoteric, or much
more niche, and they can't, but

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they can't even get on the
platform. Amazon won't even talk

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to someone like that. Yeah,
whatever. And they take 70% It's

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the whole thing is a ripoff. So
they're probably talking,

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I was talking to a buddy of mine
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documentaries, and they're doing
a few and he was saying that for

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every documentary, and they have
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they're going to go shop it to
Netflix, yeah. Or whether

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they're gonna do it themselves.
So like, if you shop it to

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Netflix, you sort of like
there's a bank of money there

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that you can just get paid, but
it's just a one time upfront

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payment. You're essentially
selling your product to them.

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traditional, you know, more

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keeping your ownership and
having those perpetual vos

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royalties or whatever come in on
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but, like, that's the decision
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trust. They're there. They're
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a guaranteed thing on the on the
Netflix Amazon prompts versus

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you taking a risk, and give you
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make it potentially making more
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any money. It's like this
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I realized, as I'm talking to
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in the wolf, you know, we have a
problem. That is a real

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showstopper for this type of
progression. But also, the

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opportunity is obvious. And as
long as we are podcast

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index.org, as long as you come
to anything we're doing and

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you're seeing podcast, it will
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musicians will see the
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documentarians will say, Oh,
okay, so I can do this for

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video, too. I mean, it's, when
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index, podcast index, people
just not thinking of this as a

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place where music goes,
necessarily so that it's a

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marketing problem. It's, it's
deeply embedded, we'll never get

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out of it. However, I was
listening to the the Buzzsprout

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show their best guest, the buzz
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talking about one person who was
on the show had made his own

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directory, a niche directory of
podcasts, it was some certain

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type of Christianity category.
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that, I'm thinking, what an
opportunity for the non app

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developers who were part of
podcast in 2.0, and sniffing

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around and look and look on
what's going on, to build a

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different front end to the
index, just for music, just from

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music, make it kind of
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now taking the RSS generator out
of curio caster it standalone.

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So that could easily be trans
Morga modified into an album

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uploader? You know, I'm saying
so we need to just break if

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someone's serious about it, if
we break away, and by the way,

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if you build that directory, you
should get a cut. That's yeah,

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that's the beauty of it. So this
is not a futile philanthropic

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mission, this, this could be an
actual business. And then why

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wouldn't you? If you own the
directory? Why wouldn't you talk

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to musicians about placement and
highlights and promotions is all

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kinds of stuff that can be done.
But someone had and I presume

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that can be done right? Can't
take someone just build a

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different front end onto the
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that they were wishing that was
a G Potter, they were

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complaining about the G Potter
directory and how it's kind of

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poor quality. I don't know
anything about it, but I'm just

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trusting what they said. And
they posted that they would

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really, really wish that G
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index. And and start using that
instead. And just curate it down

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to whatever they want. But But
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quote unquote, clean you know,
database and I think that

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applies to lots of people and
just take if we give enough

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filter filterable criteria you
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we've got everything in there
the light you know, language did

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we ever write down to songwriter
Hello, we got all kinds of stuff

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in there

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oh is so many filterable Things
You Can you should just be able

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to add the more we add to it
once we get medium tag in there

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and that kind of thing. And that
that was something I had

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discussed on podcast index
social the other day it was I

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was saying well maybe what I
should do is when I put the

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medium tag into the ingestion
that it should should put in

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there some sort of default rules
that are like okay, if it comes

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from Librivox go ahead and and
medium tag it with audio book or

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in you know, if it comes from I
don't know, I'm I'd have to

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think through these
possibilities in the in the the,

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the mastodon would have to help
come up with some rules, but you

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get the idea that you're just
sort of pre tagging a lot of

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stuff, same way we did with guid
where you go and pre generate

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some of these some of this tag
content. And then you know, if

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the feed adds itself, you know,
it's the source of truth and you

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just override it. But I mean, if
we did that, because there's

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clearly some some things that
are going to be known. I mean,

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Librivox only accepts audio
books, right? So you can go

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ahead and safely tag those.
Yeah. And once you start doing

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that, if you have a

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you can you can eat even take
submissions in a roundabout way,

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but you could take submissions
into the index through through

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popping. Oh, yeah. I mean, just,
we don't Yeah, you don't have

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to. It's just it's, I can see it
in front of me. You know, it's

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like, it's very much like, twice
a week. Hey, man, I love what

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you're doing with podcasting.
2.0 via files. Well, I got about

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why did you choose the
lightning? Not bar car? Bah,

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bah, bah, bah, bah. And, um, to
my answer is good. Where the

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East developers is there you can
implement it today. We'll

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support anything you need.

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We chose the Lightning Network
because we're two people that

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believe in Bitcoin. There's got
to be lots of other people that

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believe in other stuff out
there. Yeah, open protocols do

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it yourself.

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And even a lot of Og I know
you're a maxi but a lot of Og

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Bitcoiners are really into eath.
That's a sure that's fine.

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Whatever. That's, that's totally
cool. Where are they? Where's

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everyone with this with a big
mouth? Oh, eath is better. Well,

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then do it? Why aren't you doing
it? Maybe it's not better. Maybe

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you haven't figured it out?
Maybe it's just not true. I

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don't know. What maybe gas fees
make it complicated. And by the

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way, we have hive it works. You
can implement I mean hive is I

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was my initial inclination is to
say that sounds like it might be

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harder than Aetherium. To
implement. Just a lot of talk

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people a lot of talk. Less talk
more action. Yes. cheap, cheap

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bastards. I talk's cheap. If I
were able in the wolf, which I'm

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not, and they're tired, they're
Yeah, they just did the album.

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They just did the tour. You
know, they're taking a little

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break now watch the SATs roll
in. I'd be thinking about my own

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directory, I'd be thinking about
creating one, they have all the

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experience now. They went
through all the pain, learned

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all the ups and downs, wrote it
all out built a website, you've

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got a template, brother,
brothers, I would

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love to get an update from them
on what their income is. Now

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it's going

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well, I see routing going on. So
I know they're getting SATs

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because I see it in the daily
report of our node. So goes

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through our node to there
sometimes. So I do see that.

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By the way, but what happened
with LM pay? Did that just auto

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close a channel?

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Yeah, that was cool. So so I
kind of manage our node. Which

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means you just it's

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kind of manage it you do. I do
fully manage it. It's a

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living breathing thing. And
we've taken and we've proven

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something without even having
set out to prove something. We

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were a little piece of shit. No,
no, no, no, no, no, not

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important type node, not enough
money, everything but no big

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channel bag, Mambo,

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Mambo, Mambo channel word it my
favorite word in Bitcoin

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one bow. And so instead of
having, you know, 10, big,

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massive channels, we have
several 100. Now, several 100

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small, smaller channels. And as
it turns out, it's working this,

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you know, now that the the
network itself is a little

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better, we become part of
routing, you know, there's also

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multi path routing going on. And
we're, we're a player, we're an

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actual player for smaller
amounts. And because of the the

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nature of how the graph works,
it's often just more efficient

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to run it through, you know,
people that we're connected to.

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So Alice is a good thing. We got
a big node. So

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Ellen pay is very important
important. A because so many

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wallets are hosted there. V LN
PE has a huge, a huge pipe to

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breeze.

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Yeah, that's a main

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thoroughfare, right. In the
beginning, it was we were

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seeing, I was seeing Brees
payments stack up. Because the

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fee would just be too high for
the app to send something and I

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looked at the routes and like,
holy crap, what's going on?

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Because we were really still,
you know, the little little boys

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playing off in their own little
spider web shit that no one was

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really into, or didn't have
enough liquidity. And so you

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know, so now we have that
beautiful hop from Ellen pay. So

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that's all taken care of now
actually, what if you look at

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that? Is it to go podcasting.org
I think go podcast. That's

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the graph. Visualization go
podcasting.org

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Let me see if it still works.
Yeah, there it is. Yeah, the the

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cheese the cheese. Cheese or
cheese robot. Yeah. I mean, the

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the podcasting cloud is just
unbelievable. Though it's huge.

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It's beautiful to see.

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This is a gorgeous graph and
looked at this in a while.

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You're looking at it

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now I'm looking at it. Now. It's
like where are we? You can do a

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CTRL F and do podcasting can
search. Yeah, where are we now?

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Podcast?

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Index. Here we are.

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Man look. Yeah, that's so cool.

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Isn't that beautiful? That's
such a cool graph.

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There's a there's alien pay and
then

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ACR breeze is connected to them.

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Mm hmm. Yet they channel. So
yeah, that's a critical that's

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that that stuff in the middle
there. That's that's critical

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infrastructure right there for
getting getting things routed

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quickly. Yeah.

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And so I see this tremendous
opportunity. We talk about it

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and God bless people like Mark
Hall and Abel Kirby and Sir

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Spencer for for doing this. Now
we've got to move it to the next

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level, we need to have different
entry points it will never work

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with with a podcasting front
end, it just won't. And and it's

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completely doable. tie into it,
because we have so many web

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developers, web developers, this
lot more web developers and app

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developers, I'd say in our
community.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
I mean, they, yeah, web web

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development is, is just a more I
mean, there's more web

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developers and app developers in
the world. So that's, it's gonna

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mirror that. Yeah, clearly.
Yeah. But then that that's fine.

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I mean, we've, there's some top
notch app developer, really,

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somebody has to just see the
vision. Yeah, and say, This is

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what this is what this thing
should look like. And that

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because you it's like you said,
it's all marketing, the data is

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there, the data is going to be
there no matter what, we're

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gonna have music feeds and
documentary feeds and all this

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kind of stuff in the index.
Yeah, so that stuff's gonna

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exist. But somebody has to come
along and have the vision to

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say, Okay, here's the way that
it would look to, to a music

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listener and music.

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And, and the market is there
because I receive emails

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regularly, people saying, Hey,
would this work for music, and I

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point them to value for value.io
There's a section there about

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music as a section there about
audio books, people who've done

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00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:19,110
it who have implemented it
actually got to update it to

434
00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:24,300
point to able, Kirby able Kirby
project. So the demand is out

435
00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:26,640
there people are seeing
musicians are some of the most

436
00:27:26,670 --> 00:27:28,710
entrepreneurial people in the
world.

437
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,440
It has to be your food on the
table,

438
00:27:31,469 --> 00:27:34,169
you got to get your merch
together, you got to have your

439
00:27:34,199 --> 00:27:39,689
cheap places to stay, you know,
you you're doing the marketing

440
00:27:39,689 --> 00:27:44,249
you you your girlfriend's is
dancing out flyers, you know,

441
00:27:44,459 --> 00:27:49,859
that's, that's what it takes,
but the everything's here. There

442
00:27:49,859 --> 00:27:55,919
was now we're now seeing private
networks popping up of doctors

443
00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:58,619
who have left hospital systems
and medical systems and they're

444
00:27:58,619 --> 00:28:02,729
now doing their own telemedicine
because the technology is out

445
00:28:02,729 --> 00:28:04,439
there. They're building their
own apps, they're putting their

446
00:28:04,439 --> 00:28:06,839
own stuff together their own
beliefs everything's there you

447
00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:09,479
do not need Silicon Valley
infrastructure anymore to do

448
00:28:09,479 --> 00:28:10,169
these things.

449
00:28:11,730 --> 00:28:16,500
And yes, you know, one one thing
that I've been trying to okay so

450
00:28:16,590 --> 00:28:21,120
we had this problem with hell
pad Yes, the Hello packet was

451
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:21,930
used Yeah, hello

452
00:28:21,930 --> 00:28:23,520
Pat. I love the Hello pad

453
00:28:24,990 --> 00:28:29,760
and so in testing that are
trying to test the fixes for

454
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:35,100
that my my Umbro just can't get
a route anywhere I'm trying to

455
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:42,060
sin myself stuff. payments from
it. Just like podcast apps

456
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,040
mountain breeze bought friend
Yeah. And nothing comes through.

457
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,620
So what was really says it can't
find a route. Well, what's

458
00:28:49,620 --> 00:28:51,990
your routing from your Umbral?
What do you what are you

459
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:52,740
connected to?

460
00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:58,620
connected to my personal node,
my bigger personal node and I've

461
00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:01,500
got two channels open to podcast
index.

462
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,470
Inbound to you you've got to
you've got liquidity from the

463
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:05,100
index.

464
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,960
I've got an outbound I've got
188,000 Set outbound and a

465
00:29:10,170 --> 00:29:17,700
200,000 set inbound from podcast
index which is odd but actually

466
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:22,560
if we try it right now, let me
send myself 1000 SATs and I'm

467
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:27,660
just gonna try to pay it from
strike and see if that works

468
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,270
because maybe we should have a
route three from strike

469
00:29:32,340 --> 00:29:36,090
I think so. For sure. Yeah, I
don't see I don't see why it

470
00:29:36,090 --> 00:29:39,150
gets into Ellen pay. Yeah, okay.
Yeah, then sure.

471
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:43,140
Let's see with it, huh? Nope.
says oops, unable to find a

472
00:29:43,140 --> 00:29:46,440
payment route. That's what I'm
getting. And I don't understand

473
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,870
why. No, no, we can troubleshoot
it later.

474
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:51,660
Yeah, no, I don't I have some
thoughts. But I have to look at

475
00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:56,040
I have to look at the I have to
look at the are the eight the

476
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:01,530
8am one shit, and go see what's
going on one. What's M one m one

477
00:30:01,530 --> 00:30:05,850
ml dot o when it yeah, whatever
it is that thing, that thing.

478
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:14,670
Oh, before we go back to a
different interfaces, Roku, Roku

479
00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:19,020
app that connects to the index
would kick

480
00:30:19,140 --> 00:30:22,020
ass. Oh, that is a good idea.

481
00:30:22,050 --> 00:30:26,430
The no agenda Roku app has been
on the Roku store and working

482
00:30:26,430 --> 00:30:32,430
for me for I want to say eight
years. And even longer, maybe

483
00:30:32,430 --> 00:30:38,850
longer than that. It's a great
platform. Now, I don't think it

484
00:30:38,850 --> 00:30:41,520
will be. I mean, it's possible
someone could set it up where

485
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,970
maybe the wallet is disconnected
from the app, and maybe you can

486
00:30:44,970 --> 00:30:47,850
make calls and maybe you can I
don't know, maybe that'll work.

487
00:30:47,850 --> 00:30:52,740
I don't know. Someone should try
it. It's worth it. Go everybody

488
00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:54,960
be the first we have video
content.

489
00:30:55,980 --> 00:31:02,550
Yeah, I mean, just a simple UI,
play a podcast player UI on. And

490
00:31:02,550 --> 00:31:08,610
then later when the medium stuff
hits. You can you pull in video

491
00:31:08,610 --> 00:31:09,300
and all that stuff.

492
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,820
You know, I got about 20 years
of cognition left.

493
00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:16,140
What? More than that, you know,

494
00:31:16,170 --> 00:31:19,170
what language language should I
learn? I just gotta I just gotta

495
00:31:19,170 --> 00:31:22,020
develop the ship myself. I can't
hang around for the developers.

496
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,500
What should I learn? What should
I learn rust is rust my go to?

497
00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:27,090
Is that what I need to learn?

498
00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:30,600
I would not suggest that is your
first. My first

499
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:36,930
Hey, hey, hey, I can do basic. I
can do Python. And I can I can

500
00:31:36,930 --> 00:31:43,020
understand other stuff. Python.
Just in Python. I can I yeah, I

501
00:31:43,020 --> 00:31:45,930
can just get my class on do it.
The other day, I was so proud of

502
00:31:45,930 --> 00:31:48,960
myself. Apple script did Apple.
Fuck you. That's that was that's

503
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,080
how it's done that Apple script
is not documented. There's just

504
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,890
no documentation. This is apple
script is horrible. And that

505
00:31:55,890 --> 00:31:59,430
just exists. And it was made for
people like me. And that's

506
00:31:59,430 --> 00:32:03,570
actually how I found Dave Winer.
His his crazy user user land.

507
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:07,860
User script was better than
Apple script. In fact, I think

508
00:32:07,860 --> 00:32:10,050
app Apple probably ripped the
idea from him.

509
00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:13,830
There's just one programming
language is supported by the

510
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:17,010
Roku platform. And it's called
Bright script. No brother write

511
00:32:17,010 --> 00:32:20,280
script, which is a Python like
script. Oh, he was a go. There

512
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,180
you go Python.

513
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,650
Yeah. Yeah. That was so proud of
myself. You know. So Tina, ever

514
00:32:25,650 --> 00:32:29,730
the marketing. And by the way,
shame on us. And you'll hear why

515
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,280
every year around October. She's
like, Okay, I want you to get

516
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,730
the top 100 donors for this
year, ask Eric the top 100

517
00:32:38,730 --> 00:32:42,960
donors of all time, and you're
going to email them. And it's,

518
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,450
of course, it's a great idea.
And it should be personal. Okay,

519
00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:55,170
I'm good with that. So I get the
list from Eric. And this year. I

520
00:32:55,170 --> 00:32:59,790
can do this. I can do a personal
mail with a mail merge. And I

521
00:32:59,790 --> 00:33:02,700
could do it all with Mutt and
command line and Python. And I

522
00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:09,540
did. And I saw I found it. I
found a script, bare bones that

523
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,030
that interacted with mutt in
batch mode.

524
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,940
And let me talk about mud. It
cracks me the hell mine

525
00:33:14,970 --> 00:33:18,570
is powerful Mojo Baby, what is
the shizzle?

526
00:33:19,050 --> 00:33:23,520
I know it is. But if you showed
a normal human, any just random

527
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,030
normy off the internet might,
their head would explode.

528
00:33:27,270 --> 00:33:31,380
You know, I've actually toyed
around with him doing the Emacs

529
00:33:31,410 --> 00:33:35,550
email where it's in Emacs.
Versus just so sexy. He's like,

530
00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:39,210
check my message, boom, right in
a document. But you have to

531
00:33:39,210 --> 00:33:41,970
download it locally. So I don't
want to do that. It doesn't work

532
00:33:41,970 --> 00:33:46,710
well with IMAP. So anyway, so So
mutt just is fantastic. And then

533
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:49,740
you know, I get the script all
working. And, you know, it's

534
00:33:49,740 --> 00:33:52,380
basically just a script with a
little bit of documentation from

535
00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:58,320
a GitHub. And then by
immediately see, oh, my server

536
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,360
which Mark avoid zero maintains,
it's like too many, too many TLS

537
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,680
connections go away bad man.
Like, Oh, oops, okay. Yes, no,

538
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,350
good. So then I look at the
script, like, Okay, I just need

539
00:34:10,350 --> 00:34:15,060
to do a 10 second pause. And I
look at the script, you know, I

540
00:34:15,060 --> 00:34:17,730
try it now. That's not it, boom.
Ah, there it is. I was just so

541
00:34:17,730 --> 00:34:22,050
proud of myself. And then I did
what everybody should do. I went

542
00:34:22,050 --> 00:34:27,390
back to GitHub, posted a comment
and issue I said, Hey, man,

543
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:31,890
thank you for the script. Do you
have a Bitcoin or lightning or

544
00:34:31,890 --> 00:34:34,620
shit even at PayPal, so I can
buy a coffee or send you

545
00:34:34,620 --> 00:34:39,150
something? And the guy comes
back he says, Oh my God, this

546
00:34:39,150 --> 00:34:41,850
thank you so much for posting
this. It's really encouraged me

547
00:34:41,850 --> 00:34:44,820
to post more. It's just knowing
that someone found that useful.

548
00:34:44,820 --> 00:34:47,430
That's great, please, I have a
great job. Just give it to a

549
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:50,670
local animal shelter. And I
thought no way the world is

550
00:34:50,670 --> 00:34:52,380
fucking beautiful this way.

551
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,000
So this is okay. This is a thing
that I had written down to talk

552
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:02,190
about months ago and we just
never talked about it is it Why

553
00:35:02,190 --> 00:35:08,640
does there not exist? A some
kind of site or something that

554
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,200
will interface with all known
open source, valuable open

555
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:19,260
source projects and allow you to
donate directly to them through

556
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,210
lightning. So something like I
mean, it would essentially be

557
00:35:24,210 --> 00:35:28,350
like a podcast or wallet. But
the open source project itself

558
00:35:28,350 --> 00:35:32,070
could go and sign up and say,
you know, okay, here's our

559
00:35:32,070 --> 00:35:36,030
lightning node address. Here's
our pub key. And if you want to

560
00:35:36,030 --> 00:35:40,170
donate to the project, like it's
just a basically a page of a

561
00:35:40,170 --> 00:35:43,650
page of projects, and you click
it and pops up a QR code, and

562
00:35:43,650 --> 00:35:47,400
you didn't you scan and donate.
I mean, there's like an index

563
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,870
like a donation index for open
source projects that should

564
00:35:51,870 --> 00:35:52,560
exist.

565
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,670
I don't know if that's the way
to go. I mean, if the guy just

566
00:35:56,700 --> 00:36:00,180
posted a QR code right there on
his GitHub page, that would be

567
00:36:00,180 --> 00:36:01,290
the same thing. No.

568
00:36:02,490 --> 00:36:06,360
Well, yeah, I'm just, I'm just
thinking that you would have

569
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,050
some, you'd have some other
goodies in there, like into

570
00:36:10,050 --> 00:36:14,550
being able to have donor booster
grams and donations and all

571
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:21,180
kinds of stuff. This looks
almost like a like a Satoshi

572
00:36:21,180 --> 00:36:22,770
stream, but for podcast from,

573
00:36:23,220 --> 00:36:27,450
okay. Well, right, of course,
these, that's always how we get

574
00:36:27,450 --> 00:36:35,790
there. Umbral has some kind of
wonder if it's networkable.

575
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,780
There's some kind of Git
Repository app that they have in

576
00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:43,260
the Umbral, I'm really high on
this Umbral thing. This is I've

577
00:36:43,260 --> 00:36:46,440
always dreamed of this kind of
box, and it's you know, I've,

578
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:50,730
I've connected my, I've set up
the next cloud little next cloud

579
00:36:50,730 --> 00:36:53,640
on it, which then also connects
to my email. So in a pinch, I

580
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:59,010
can tore into my Umbral node and
fire up my email is beautiful.

581
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:04,890
I'm so I'm so. And you know,
like that layer in there? Well,

582
00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:07,800
it's not that I don't like I
love the concept. I'm so leery,

583
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,530
as well as cloud and own cloud
and all those things. I'm

584
00:37:10,530 --> 00:37:14,310
afraid. They're so big, and
there's so many lines of code,

585
00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:16,980
I'm just so afraid that they're
gonna be like, some critical

586
00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:19,080
vulnerability, and they're gonna
steal all my stuff.

587
00:37:19,889 --> 00:37:23,729
Yeah, that's possible. That's
very possible. I've been I've

588
00:37:23,729 --> 00:37:28,859
been living with next cloud for
a couple years love it. Then I

589
00:37:28,859 --> 00:37:35,129
just rent a server with cPanel.
So I do have full control over

590
00:37:35,129 --> 00:37:39,989
it. And it is mine. But my email
is is not on there that's owned.

591
00:37:39,989 --> 00:37:43,799
That's Mark does all that. So
just IMAP has just some file

592
00:37:43,799 --> 00:37:49,439
storage and recipes. You know,
pictures. Nothing critical,

593
00:37:49,439 --> 00:37:53,579
ever. But I hear what you're
saying. But having it having it

594
00:37:53,579 --> 00:37:56,969
here at home? I mean, yeah, I
mean, just having it behind Tor

595
00:37:56,969 --> 00:37:59,099
and all that is I feel pretty
safe.

596
00:37:59,790 --> 00:38:06,030
That's probably the the, you
know, my job for 20 to 2025

597
00:38:06,030 --> 00:38:10,110
years has been to be paranoid
beyond belief. So that's

598
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,670
probably guessing. This is why

599
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:18,420
you're sick all the time. You
worry, you worry too much, you

600
00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:26,760
worry too much. Anyway, the
update to heli pad. Beautiful,

601
00:38:27,420 --> 00:38:31,830
works perfectly. I've got all
the history in there. Love it.

602
00:38:31,830 --> 00:38:31,950
So I

603
00:38:31,950 --> 00:38:35,310
just need to do it, I just need
to push. So the way they do this

604
00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:41,460
on the Umbro side is they try to
see the app. There's an app

605
00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:45,510
registry file that has all of
the apps listed, that you can

606
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:50,940
install. And then they reference
the Docker compose in the app in

607
00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:53,730
the app file, in the app folder,

608
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,000
micro services architecture,
baby. And then

609
00:38:58,619 --> 00:39:03,239
they, and then that Docker
compose file for the app, points

610
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:09,449
to the image on Docker Hub, and
they but they tie it to a

611
00:39:09,449 --> 00:39:13,259
specific image hash. So I can't
just

612
00:39:13,470 --> 00:39:18,090
change it out. Yeah. Well,
that's, that's security. It is.

613
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,870
Yeah. Yeah, that's the that is
the right way to do it. And so

614
00:39:21,870 --> 00:39:26,040
but that just means I'm going to
have to do another cycle, bump

615
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,300
the version number, and then do
a pull request to update the

616
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:33,000
app. And hopefully, I can get
that in there before this next

617
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:38,820
for 11 cars. Yeah, nothing I
think I can do they say you.

618
00:39:39,060 --> 00:39:40,650
I'll go through what the problem
was.

619
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,730
Yeah, please. What can I tell
everyone what the what the what

620
00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:49,260
the result was what what I saw
is I would have the most recent

621
00:39:49,260 --> 00:39:53,190
booster grams within the few
hours. And then there were gaps.

622
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:56,700
I had a three week gap. But
Alternatively, it would have a

623
00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:59,700
different gap. There was just
stuff missing and I was thanking

624
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:02,640
people On curry in the keeper
and missing a whole shitload of

625
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,240
people. So there was just gaps
in the data.

626
00:40:07,799 --> 00:40:13,529
Well, there's, there were two
actually two problems. The one

627
00:40:13,529 --> 00:40:16,469
is the one you were talking
about what the gap. So you would

628
00:40:16,469 --> 00:40:19,649
have like a few recent ones, and
then you'd hit this demarcation

629
00:40:19,649 --> 00:40:23,819
point where it would jump back,
like, a month, and you would

630
00:40:23,849 --> 00:40:27,599
it'd be missing like three, four
weeks, then, and it was always

631
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:31,079
random. It was different than
that. There was another problem,

632
00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:34,169
though, that would happen. And
when James Crillon ran into this

633
00:40:34,169 --> 00:40:39,209
a few times, and I think maybe
you ran into this a few times as

634
00:40:39,209 --> 00:40:43,409
well, or Braun of London, I
can't remember. But I never

635
00:40:43,409 --> 00:40:48,059
could replicate it on my side.
And this, this thing that

636
00:40:48,059 --> 00:40:53,939
happened was, you would fire up
helipad. And it would come up

637
00:40:53,939 --> 00:40:56,129
and say that it's building the
database, and there's nothing to

638
00:40:56,129 --> 00:40:56,609
show. Yeah,

639
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,840
well, that that was that way,
always until, if you and then I

640
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,440
would send myself a booster gram
or a boost, they would pew and

641
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,530
then the minute that happens,
the show older boosts link would

642
00:41:07,530 --> 00:41:08,130
show up.

643
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:14,160
Okay, so that both of these were
essentially caused by the same,

644
00:41:14,370 --> 00:41:19,590
the same issue, but in two
different manifestations. What

645
00:41:19,590 --> 00:41:25,110
goes on with helipad is that it?
It builds, it maintains help had

646
00:41:25,110 --> 00:41:29,220
the app maintains its own
database of every invoice that's

647
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:35,430
in the note. So when you first
install it, it sucks all of the

648
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:39,480
invoices, all the lightning
invoices out of lnd into its own

649
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,830
database, and each one of those
has an index number. And it's

650
00:41:43,830 --> 00:41:47,820
just constantly keeping is
polling lnd every few seconds to

651
00:41:47,820 --> 00:41:53,340
say, is there a new invoice yet,
right. And if there are it sucks

652
00:41:53,340 --> 00:41:59,970
it and so it's always keeping
sync between the two. In order

653
00:41:59,970 --> 00:42:05,250
to show the booster grams, you
it ends up having to go

654
00:42:05,580 --> 00:42:09,150
backwards in the database and
forwards depending on what's

655
00:42:09,150 --> 00:42:13,590
being on what's happening. So
sometimes you want to go back

656
00:42:13,590 --> 00:42:16,170
and show historical information.
So you need to have sort of a

657
00:42:16,170 --> 00:42:19,860
descending search to say Okay,
start from this index and go and

658
00:42:19,860 --> 00:42:24,060
show me everything older. And
then some but for new booster

659
00:42:24,060 --> 00:42:27,450
grams that are coming in from
New invoices. You want to say,

660
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:33,060
Okay, start with this index and
show me everything newer. So you

661
00:42:33,060 --> 00:42:35,220
can go in, you can go either
backwards

662
00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:38,310
or for right shoulder boosts is
going backwards.

663
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:44,910
Yeah. And so with in a certain
scenario, what was what was

664
00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:48,450
happening is it was getting the
direction wrong. And so it would

665
00:42:48,450 --> 00:42:52,110
say he would get into a state
and he would say, okay, here is

666
00:42:52,110 --> 00:42:55,380
show me, show me this. Here's
Okay, start from this index and

667
00:42:55,380 --> 00:42:59,280
show me everything newer than
this. But there's nothing new or

668
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,610
to show. And so it would just
come up and say there's nothing

669
00:43:02,610 --> 00:43:07,740
there. Right? And that it ended
up it was just a couple of typos

670
00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:08,220
really

671
00:43:08,310 --> 00:43:11,010
have happened to me all the time
in Python.

672
00:43:12,180 --> 00:43:18,450
Yes. In bright script, yeah.
Bright script. And so that's

673
00:43:18,450 --> 00:43:21,660
really what it boiled down to
was it was kind of like to two

674
00:43:21,660 --> 00:43:25,980
changes. One, it was an extra
piece of logic to see what was

675
00:43:26,010 --> 00:43:28,530
was being asked for from the
front end. And the other one was

676
00:43:28,530 --> 00:43:35,130
just a pure, like typo. Once you
fix those, now, it's, it's

677
00:43:35,130 --> 00:43:38,760
seeing everything, it's using
the proper direction, anytime

678
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,360
that it's asking for certain
stuff. Because if you think

679
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,790
about it, like the reason it
needs to go forward in the

680
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:49,290
database sometimes is let's just
say that you're up that you're

681
00:43:49,290 --> 00:43:52,110
up to date. And so every all the
booster grams shown on the

682
00:43:52,110 --> 00:43:58,140
screen are current. Well, now
what you want is you want to say

683
00:43:58,740 --> 00:44:01,980
you want to be polling the back
the polling the hell pad back in

684
00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:05,250
and saying is there here's my
current index, let's just say

685
00:44:05,250 --> 00:44:12,690
it's 125 you want to say
alright, index 125 show me

686
00:44:12,690 --> 00:44:15,690
things that are newer than that.
And just want to keep saying

687
00:44:15,690 --> 00:44:18,900
that over and over and it'll in
some never shows up this newer

688
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:22,800
than that that's a home 126 or
127. Right? It'll give it back.

689
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,560
Otherwise, if you're having to
do a descending you would have

690
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:31,710
to you'd have to just pick some
random number and say okay, one

691
00:44:31,710 --> 00:44:37,410
to 137 Let's just say okay, I'll
go ahead 2020 ticks on the index

692
00:44:37,410 --> 00:44:39,450
count is show me everything
older than that and you're

693
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,020
constantly having to sort of
like guess and it worked. I

694
00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:46,860
mean, it would work it would
catch up with itself, but I

695
00:44:46,860 --> 00:44:50,550
don't know I like it seems
cleaner the other way to me. And

696
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:57,990
so then with the with the boost
with the booster grant what was

697
00:44:57,990 --> 00:45:04,230
triggering the issue You What I
found was triggering the issue

698
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,640
with it showing up and saying
that it was the database wasn't

699
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,740
finished being built yet. It was
the direction issue. But

700
00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:21,570
specifically, what was happening
is if you created an invoice and

701
00:45:21,660 --> 00:45:26,910
it didn't get paid, yes suck
that invoice into the hell pad

702
00:45:26,910 --> 00:45:33,600
database with as a blank right
it was it was an unsettled

703
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,450
invoice. Yeah, with zero data in
it.

704
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:39,479
That invoice bogus.

705
00:45:42,090 --> 00:45:45,000
And it happened to me back then,
because I was trying to fund I

706
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:52,230
was trying to get my my Umbral
to route payments. And so I'm

707
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:53,970
like, Okay, I'm just going to
try to pay an invoice from

708
00:45:53,970 --> 00:45:58,110
strike. I created an invoice,
tried to pay it, and then the

709
00:45:58,110 --> 00:46:00,810
next switch back over to hell
pad and refreshed and it blew

710
00:46:00,810 --> 00:46:03,630
up. It just said your data, you
don't have a database, or

711
00:46:03,630 --> 00:46:09,000
there's nothing to show you. Oh,
oh, okay. So go over to the

712
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,930
SQLite database look, and it's
sitting on the current index is

713
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,800
one of those blank, unsettled
invoices. Oh, okay. Got it.

714
00:46:16,830 --> 00:46:21,450
Then. Then I just add, I added
another invoice manually as if a

715
00:46:21,450 --> 00:46:26,130
new booster Graham had come in,
boom, it was fixed. And so that

716
00:46:26,850 --> 00:46:30,990
that was also an extra fix that
had to go in. So anyway, it's

717
00:46:31,230 --> 00:46:33,600
the I'll push a new version,
hopefully and get it in under

718
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,080
the wire

719
00:46:34,110 --> 00:46:37,590
guys. Kicking ass. It's
beautiful. Yeah,

720
00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:40,620
you know, I think I rushed this
thing out the door. And a lot of

721
00:46:40,620 --> 00:46:43,710
ways it went as fast as I could.
And so I think at some point in

722
00:46:43,710 --> 00:46:47,040
the future probably want to do
the UI thing or before we pull

723
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:53,610
in the new UI that Khalil I
think I'm going to do some

724
00:46:53,610 --> 00:46:57,360
refactoring to make that, that
because what I think what needs

725
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,200
to happen more than keeping,
keeping everything perfectly in

726
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,760
sync is like by sucking in every
invoice. What I think is better

727
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,610
is to just have a running
counter of whatever the current

728
00:47:08,610 --> 00:47:15,630
lnd invoice index is. Just keep
that there as a single value in

729
00:47:15,630 --> 00:47:18,780
the database. And then that way,
I don't have to pull in every

730
00:47:18,780 --> 00:47:22,350
single invoice. I can only pull
in just the booster grams.

731
00:47:23,550 --> 00:47:28,380
Okay, ready to have your mind
blown? Yeah, blow it. Okay. This

732
00:47:28,380 --> 00:47:34,500
can also work in reverse. So Oh,
I hear that. Yeah, maybe? Yes.

733
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:45,090
Yeah. It was it. It was it was a
boost for no agenda. No, okay.

734
00:47:45,090 --> 00:47:48,330
Not a booster, just the boost.
So it can also work in reverse

735
00:47:48,330 --> 00:47:50,700
people have an unrolled they
pick up what is this Halle pad

736
00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:54,990
thing? Yeah, it can be an
onboarding step.

737
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,660
Oh, huh.

738
00:47:58,770 --> 00:48:04,950
Okay, it's your API calls in.
It's a few. It's a beautiful

739
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:10,200
onboarding place. It is. You've
just created an entry point, an

740
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,060
entry point for podcasters.

741
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,530
There needs to be a link on
there to link out to, to some

742
00:48:16,770 --> 00:48:21,270
way to create a feed. Maybe the
genie.

743
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:26,339
Oh, my God. See how all the
pieces are coming together?

744
00:48:26,970 --> 00:48:30,510
Yes. Are you there? Yes. Now you
leave link out and I don't know

745
00:48:30,510 --> 00:48:32,880
this. That's the I like this
onboarding thing, because then

746
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:37,980
you pull in the do it the DIY
guys, huh?

747
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:43,139
Like they're out there. That's
what podcasters are. Yeah.

748
00:48:43,229 --> 00:48:45,389
podcasters are DIY guys.

749
00:48:45,929 --> 00:48:49,619
And the next cloud guys, I mean,
these guys are gonna want to own

750
00:48:49,619 --> 00:48:55,199
every they want to own every
link in the chain. Right? Now,

751
00:48:55,229 --> 00:48:58,559
you got a you have the Umbral
with the, you know, two

752
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:03,329
terabytes of disk space on it,
turn it into a podcast, podcast,

753
00:49:03,749 --> 00:49:04,709
magic box.

754
00:49:05,010 --> 00:49:09,510
Well, that's been there for now,
when I posted that I was talking

755
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:13,590
about IPFS, maybe IPFS. On the
Umbral, I got a lot of pushback,

756
00:49:13,590 --> 00:49:15,630
and pretty much everyone says
now there's just better

757
00:49:15,630 --> 00:49:18,780
protocols now the web, Tor and
all this stuff is just so much

758
00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:19,350
better.

759
00:49:20,579 --> 00:49:25,169
My problem with ifs is is so
crashy it crashes all the time.

760
00:49:25,169 --> 00:49:30,329
And it's so like, at least once
a week, if not more, I get an

761
00:49:30,329 --> 00:49:32,129
email from our Oh, yes.

762
00:49:32,130 --> 00:49:35,310
Yeah, broken broken DB download
or see it

763
00:49:35,369 --> 00:49:39,059
now. Yeah. And it's usually
because the IPFS daemon crashed

764
00:49:39,059 --> 00:49:42,029
and it's been resurrected
halfway through a download. Yes,

765
00:49:42,269 --> 00:49:44,909
it is bothersome. And this

766
00:49:44,910 --> 00:49:48,570
is, and this is exactly what
it's meant for is for huge data

767
00:49:48,570 --> 00:49:54,240
files. That was how was
developed. Topic, opportunity

768
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:59,430
amount is everywhere. Since
IPFS. Powers many of the NFT

769
00:49:59,430 --> 00:50:03,060
craze We promised on our last
episode which by the way, thank

770
00:50:03,060 --> 00:50:06,630
you for finishing was hilarious
what happened on the last show?

771
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:10,200
No one noticed it. But I will
tell people what happened.

772
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:13,319
I didn't even hear the last I
didn't even hear the last part

773
00:50:13,499 --> 00:50:14,459
at all. You

774
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,610
wouldn't you wouldn't know that
it was disaster here in the hill

775
00:50:17,610 --> 00:50:20,910
country. Yes. Because your
skills are also first of all,

776
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,970
the show's running long. We're
doing it with James and you

777
00:50:23,970 --> 00:50:26,280
know, we're really appreciative
because you got up early and

778
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,000
everything. And you know, so
we're running on close to two

779
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,710
hours and I knew that Mark Hall
was coming at now. It's dark now

780
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:37,830
and Tina can't turn on the
lights because of the dimmer

781
00:50:37,830 --> 00:50:41,340
buzzer. She's literally cooking
dinner with a flashlight. I can

782
00:50:41,340 --> 00:50:45,870
feel her Siri Yes, I can feel
her angst and she's texting me

783
00:50:45,870 --> 00:50:50,190
like, are you almost there? And
and so I'm listening and we're

784
00:50:50,190 --> 00:50:52,500
talking and you're like, oh,
James, one more thing about a

785
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:56,670
life philosophy. I've always
wanted to question you on some

786
00:50:56,670 --> 00:50:59,850
I'm like, Oh my God, that's
another 15 minutes. And then

787
00:50:59,910 --> 00:51:05,370
Mark comes to the door. he rings
the doorbell. Phoebe, the the 90

788
00:51:05,370 --> 00:51:10,440
pound akbash just just flipping
out. Tina's not ready. You know,

789
00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:14,130
the dog feels this. He looks
like a fucking bear, like a

790
00:51:14,130 --> 00:51:18,930
Russian black bear in the dog.
And I'm hitting, you know, I'm

791
00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:22,620
trying to go back and forth. And
I finally say to Dave and, and

792
00:51:22,620 --> 00:51:27,150
James, I say, Hey, you guys just
finished it up. Merry Christmas.

793
00:51:27,330 --> 00:51:30,270
I got to deal with the
situation. So I came back an

794
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:33,690
hour later, and the recorder was
still running. And I was able to

795
00:51:33,690 --> 00:51:37,470
piece it all together. So no one
was the Wiser until I spoiled

796
00:51:37,470 --> 00:51:38,100
it. There you go.

797
00:51:38,130 --> 00:51:41,100
perfectly understandable. This
is wife management. 1010.

798
00:51:41,610 --> 00:51:45,990
Yeah. Let's just say spout
partner management, shall

799
00:51:45,989 --> 00:51:46,709
we? Okay.

800
00:51:49,980 --> 00:51:54,750
I got to Oh, yeah. So anyway,
and as a part of that, we cut

801
00:51:54,750 --> 00:51:59,670
the show short, because you said
Hey, should we joke about NF Ts?

802
00:51:59,670 --> 00:52:03,090
Is it now? No, no, no, let's
let's let's wind this up. So

803
00:52:03,570 --> 00:52:09,030
your life is good as well. Have
you ever bought an in if

804
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:16,410
I have received an NFT s months
ago, someone created a no agenda

805
00:52:16,410 --> 00:52:23,670
NFT and said, Here, install
Netmask and do this Weeki Wachee

806
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:28,920
Wookiee and then I opened it,
and I got $7 or something. And

807
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:30,900
honestly, I have not looked
since.

808
00:52:32,099 --> 00:52:35,999
Would you like to know how you
how you go about buying an NFT?

809
00:52:36,059 --> 00:52:39,839
It's Metamask? I'm sorry? Yeah.
Metamask? Yeah.

810
00:52:41,099 --> 00:52:45,599
Well, yeah, yeah. How the hell
do I do that? How does this work

811
00:52:45,899 --> 00:52:52,349
with the the guys over at mere
mortals? One specifically, he

812
00:52:52,349 --> 00:52:55,709
walked through the process of
him buying some NF T's. I think

813
00:52:55,709 --> 00:53:01,949
these are like, dinosaur? Yeah,
I don't know. This is Part

814
00:53:01,949 --> 00:53:05,549
honors. I guess these are images
like you have these collector,

815
00:53:05,729 --> 00:53:12,089
NF T's. They're like images of a
dinosaur or a gorilla or sexy?

816
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:16,739
Oh, yeah. It's great. It's top
notch. Yeah. So he will include

817
00:53:16,739 --> 00:53:21,809
one he walks through how the
buying of the NF T's work.

818
00:53:22,260 --> 00:53:25,830
We talk a lot about NF T's and a
lot of other things I won't go

819
00:53:25,830 --> 00:53:29,130
too much into, into depth into
what they are. But basically,

820
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,390
it's an NF T right of dinosaurs.
But they were minting I got, I

821
00:53:33,390 --> 00:53:36,420
was fortunate enough that I was
able to get pre minting, which

822
00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:39,240
basically meant I was able to
purchase the particular NF T's

823
00:53:39,300 --> 00:53:42,210
before they actually went on
public sale. So that might be

824
00:53:42,210 --> 00:53:45,870
like pre IPO or pre. That's the
example. So pre IPO pre

825
00:53:45,900 --> 00:53:49,320
everybody getting in. Cool. So I
purchased four of them, have one

826
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,630
of them, which I gave to a good
friend of mine. Cool, fantastic.

827
00:53:51,930 --> 00:53:54,660
Now, there was no trouble saying
but and I did mention this to

828
00:53:54,660 --> 00:53:56,880
you the way that you actually
had to do it. And it was a

829
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,970
little bit of a manual process
was they would basically say,

830
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,280
how many did you want in a
basically a message through this

831
00:54:02,340 --> 00:54:05,580
channel? How many do you want? I
would say I want four, they

832
00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:08,310
would give you the address and
you just sent money there. And

833
00:54:08,310 --> 00:54:11,700
you will have to just hope,
interest that they're gonna send

834
00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:15,120
it back now they did. Right. And
I was saying to you look, there

835
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,820
was obviously some trust built
up in the fact that these people

836
00:54:17,940 --> 00:54:21,090
had heard them talking, you
know, asked me anything style

837
00:54:21,090 --> 00:54:24,480
questionnaires. I've interacted
with them message them. That

838
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,700
seemed cool. I wasn't too
worried. I was like, I want to

839
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:30,240
share screen share with you and
no, no, but I was like, let's

840
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:32,670
say maybe it was a point 2%
Doubt, right.

841
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,810
So the evidently the way or one
of the common one of the ways

842
00:54:39,810 --> 00:54:43,620
that you buy an FTS is you just
randomly send somebody money and

843
00:54:43,620 --> 00:54:47,100
hope that they send you an NFT
that's essentially what this was

844
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:47,610
boiled down.

845
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,870
Oh, that's what they call a
smart contract. Yes, sir. I

846
00:54:51,870 --> 00:54:56,430
actually was just able to open
my meta mask wallet and sitting

847
00:54:56,430 --> 00:55:05,820
there I have 0.0159 eath equals
$58.86. So my, my, my winnings

848
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:12,000
went up since I got my, my, my
EF the NFT money. Wait, I

849
00:55:12,030 --> 00:55:16,080
do have an asset once this is
appreciated in value. Yes, I

850
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:21,150
have. Okay. So that that sounds
kind of weird so that I thought

851
00:55:21,150 --> 00:55:25,080
you would because I know when I
when I got mine, it was like a

852
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,520
click and then it was said you
got it and fuck I don't remember

853
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,140
Dave, it probably wasn't there
to

854
00:55:31,140 --> 00:55:35,310
be some sort of encrypted Yeah.
Field purchase process or

855
00:55:35,310 --> 00:55:38,670
handoff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Then
interact with the blockchain.

856
00:55:39,060 --> 00:55:42,810
This is all this is web. 3.0
baby. Yeah, this has got to be

857
00:55:42,810 --> 00:55:43,200
like,

858
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,700
web three, not 3.0. It's 3.3
with 3.3.

859
00:55:48,570 --> 00:55:52,560
But, I mean, okay, so that's
dicey, but at least, like the

860
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,130
actual purchase purchasing of
the NF T, I mean, the

861
00:55:56,130 --> 00:55:59,370
transaction itself, that's got
to be solid, right? I mean, you

862
00:55:59,370 --> 00:56:01,290
would think that but let's
listen to clip to

863
00:56:01,679 --> 00:56:04,739
what added to this though. Like,
I'm thankful I didn't partake in

864
00:56:04,739 --> 00:56:07,109
this cuz I was gonna buy more
unreleased, and I was like,

865
00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:10,259
Dude, this sounds crazy. And
then there were so many people

866
00:56:10,259 --> 00:56:14,039
like that the channel disco
channel went from, they said

867
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:17,279
seven and a half 1000 8000
people to 15,000 in about 20

868
00:56:17,279 --> 00:56:20,669
minutes. And there was so many
people messaging, it crashed a

869
00:56:20,669 --> 00:56:24,749
whole discord channel, which at
the same time, those bots and

870
00:56:24,779 --> 00:56:27,059
this happens all the time and
space. Those bots and other

871
00:56:27,059 --> 00:56:30,539
people creating fake discord
channels sending you missed as

872
00:56:30,539 --> 00:56:33,119
being like, Oh, hey, guys, this
is the actual disco channel,

873
00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:35,369
send us the money. And people
were sending money all over the

874
00:56:35,369 --> 00:56:40,259
place. And shit. And so they
finally got the thing back and

875
00:56:40,259 --> 00:56:42,629
had to put like, all these downs
being like, I hope nobody sent

876
00:56:42,629 --> 00:56:45,179
all this money because like
there was messages all over the

877
00:56:45,179 --> 00:56:48,179
place. Like this was the worst
release ever. Like I lost all my

878
00:56:48,179 --> 00:56:50,909
money bought, etc, etc, etc.
Yeah, I

879
00:56:50,909 --> 00:56:55,979
think there's the the releasing
of the NF Ts and I believe

880
00:56:56,009 --> 00:57:00,209
Marvel works with a company that
does this professionally. So it

881
00:57:00,209 --> 00:57:03,419
does take some actual
infrastructure to set it up and

882
00:57:03,569 --> 00:57:07,049
and have it work in some orderly
fashion. I think discord channel

883
00:57:07,049 --> 00:57:10,739
was kind of, you know, kind of
the DIY way, which you know, is

884
00:57:11,279 --> 00:57:13,139
you get what you pay for type
deal.

885
00:57:13,769 --> 00:57:19,469
DIY and out and in. In the
south, we call that half ass

886
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,480
is what it sounds like.

887
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,550
But I mean, like, okay, so fine.
Everybody makes mistakes to get

888
00:57:26,550 --> 00:57:32,580
all. Yeah, nothing, nothing is
perfect. But at least they have,

889
00:57:33,090 --> 00:57:36,450
you know, communication channels
secure and everything. So, at

890
00:57:36,450 --> 00:57:40,470
least the process of at least
this this plan B sort of discord

891
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:43,410
process. I mean, at least that
is dependable. I mean, you would

892
00:57:43,410 --> 00:57:46,140
think yeah, maybe clip three.

893
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,530
What added to this story. Like
I'm thankful I didn't partake in

894
00:57:49,530 --> 00:57:51,900
this because I was gonna buy
more unreleased, and I was like,

895
00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:55,020
Dude, this sounds crazy. And
then there was so many people

896
00:57:55,020 --> 00:57:57,810
like that the channel, disco
channel went from

897
00:57:57,810 --> 00:57:59,580
it. This is the same as clip
two.

898
00:58:00,780 --> 00:58:02,970
It's not supposed to be exact. I
played

899
00:58:02,970 --> 00:58:04,710
did I play the wrong clip? Hold
on a second.

900
00:58:06,780 --> 00:58:07,830
Are they the same tonight?

901
00:58:09,329 --> 00:58:11,279
Now, I don't know how they found
this out.

902
00:58:11,550 --> 00:58:15,210
I think I played clips three
instead of clip two. Wait, let

903
00:58:15,210 --> 00:58:15,540
me see what

904
00:58:15,540 --> 00:58:18,420
this what added to the story.
Like, I'm thankful I didn't

905
00:58:18,420 --> 00:58:20,970
partake in this because I was
gonna buy more on release. And I

906
00:58:20,970 --> 00:58:23,880
was like, Dude, this sounds
crazy. And then there was so

907
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,870
many people so that the channel
does go channel went from, they

908
00:58:27,870 --> 00:58:28,950
said seven and a half. Yeah,

909
00:58:28,980 --> 00:58:30,990
we played that one. I guess I
played him out of order. I'm

910
00:58:30,990 --> 00:58:32,610
sorry. That's okay.

911
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:37,200
Now, I don't know how they found
this out. But there's actually

912
00:58:37,590 --> 00:58:40,950
like, not not what to say well
known hackers, but people know

913
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:44,100
that people going to hack a
particular release. So this one

914
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,860
COMM The actual public release
was going to happen in two days.

915
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,100
And they found out hey, this
group, which I think is called a

916
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:54,240
seven to one or something, but
like, they were going to go and

917
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,300
hack their sale. And what that
meant was, you know, there was

918
00:58:57,300 --> 00:59:00,930
usually a limit of like, you can
only buy 10 or 15, or five off

919
00:59:00,930 --> 00:59:04,680
particular thing. But they could
get around in the contract, just

920
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,200
like I'm only going into it just
very technically, they could

921
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,290
mess around with the contract.
So they could buy 1000 of them

922
00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:13,500
for the money. But they're about
1000 Then all of a sudden, they

923
00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:16,230
have like a monopoly or not a
monopoly, but a really large

924
00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:18,570
portion of them and they control
a lot of the price. So people

925
00:59:18,570 --> 00:59:20,970
don't want that because it's
happened before. So what they

926
00:59:20,970 --> 00:59:25,740
decided to do was they would
basically like the last 1015

927
00:59:25,740 --> 00:59:28,200
minutes before the public
release. The sentiment is being

928
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,800
like no, we're about to get like
hacked, we do not want to do

929
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,710
this to happen. So they delayed
the release and what they did

930
00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:38,400
was okay, you have to send us a
message on the discord channel

931
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,100
with a particular way and tell
us how many you want we're gonna

932
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:44,010
limit it to three I think
they're saying there's limited

933
00:59:44,010 --> 00:59:47,340
to three dinosaurs. You have to
message us and it was just going

934
00:59:47,340 --> 00:59:50,040
to be a first come first serve
or you message us you send us

935
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,790
the money to a particular dress
and like you might get you might

936
00:59:53,790 --> 00:59:55,890
not you have no idea what on the
list this

937
00:59:56,159 --> 00:59:59,729
guy so I apologize. I played I
played him out of order. That's

938
00:59:59,729 --> 01:00:02,669
okay. but it's still I mean,
like, and then the distorting of

939
01:00:02,669 --> 01:00:06,779
did nothing is this thing is a
complete disaster. Well, okay,

940
01:00:06,779 --> 01:00:10,289
so from the Marvel standpoint,
I'll tell you what I can tell

941
01:00:10,289 --> 01:00:16,799
you in essence, what's going on
and they do not have these

942
01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:20,159
issues. So I know that they have
a partner, I forget who it is. I

943
01:00:20,159 --> 01:00:24,449
think it is the IPFS guys
actually, who built the NFT type

944
01:00:24,449 --> 01:00:28,559
business out of this vivo or
veto or something like that.

945
01:00:29,759 --> 01:00:34,319
Could probably look it up. So
that's pretty orderly, whatever

946
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:37,199
they're doing, but they're
they're taking it in exactly the

947
01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:40,979
same direction as the baseball
trading cards. So you're going

948
01:00:40,979 --> 01:00:45,209
to see packages, and they're
their assets are the

949
01:00:45,209 --> 01:00:48,869
superheroes, the comic books,
you know that the whole business

950
01:00:48,899 --> 01:00:53,669
of this Marvel Entertainment is
licensing? So the everything in

951
01:00:53,669 --> 01:00:56,219
the comic, but all that imagery,
all the words, they own all of

952
01:00:56,219 --> 01:00:57,119
that? So

953
01:00:57,149 --> 01:00:58,619
he's ZeeVee?

954
01:00:58,650 --> 01:01:01,710
Yeah, I think that sounds right.
Vive. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So

955
01:01:02,820 --> 01:01:07,740
remind me to tell you about
that. So they're going to

956
01:01:07,740 --> 01:01:11,940
package that up. But you you pay
like 100 bucks. And that could

957
01:01:11,940 --> 01:01:16,230
be, you know, there could be
$1,000 valuable rookie card in

958
01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:18,900
there. But it's more likely
you've got 80 bucks worth of

959
01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:19,830
cards, right?

960
01:01:20,670 --> 01:01:23,550
Ran that you have like the
commons and uncommons and the

961
01:01:23,550 --> 01:01:26,430
rares. And, yeah, yeah, he's a
trading card.

962
01:01:26,430 --> 01:01:29,490
Yeah, yeah. He says, there's
really two audiences. You have

963
01:01:29,490 --> 01:01:32,910
the audience that there's really
into this and hopes to find

964
01:01:32,910 --> 01:01:35,670
something valuable. Then you
have the people who have a lot

965
01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:38,760
of money, who when they were
poor, and young, couldn't buy

966
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,760
the the cool card. And so they
go out and they spend whatever

967
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,990
they need to just to do it.
Right. It says ultimately, this

968
01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:49,800
will wind up with a very small
percentage being extremely

969
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,520
valuable than all the rest of
shit is worth worthless. It's

970
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:58,920
completely worthless. What was
interesting is my old buddy, my

971
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,930
old agent from Hollywood call me
a couple weeks ago. Matthew last

972
01:02:03,930 --> 01:02:09,000
year super agent Lasher.
Matthew, how you doing? Oh,

973
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,690
yeah. He said, Matthew, how you
doing?

974
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,520
Sounds like yes, the Penthouse
magazine.

975
01:02:20,970 --> 01:02:25,350
Oh, that was the hard part is
whenever you call me Hey, man. I

976
01:02:25,350 --> 01:02:30,240
can't help but do his voice. He
says, I have a client. I guess I

977
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:36,840
have a client and he wants to do
an NFT and and I just wanted the

978
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,230
right partner. I said well, my
buddy he knows the right partner

979
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:47,670
who's your client? Say Brian is
it Brian cross Brian cross from

980
01:02:49,260 --> 01:03:00,150
succession? I'm Brian cross my
second sucks show Cox. Brian

981
01:03:00,150 --> 01:03:04,260
come by Brian Cox. I'm sorry.
Yes. Okay. Brian Cox. So have

982
01:03:04,260 --> 01:03:06,870
you ever seen succession? No.
Okay, so

983
01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:09,060
Brian never even heard of Brian
Cox.

984
01:03:09,090 --> 01:03:13,170
Is it Brian Cox? Is that right?
Yeah. Brian Cox. So he's this

985
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:17,280
this he's an older actor and he
plays the patriarch of this.

986
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,940
You're basically like a Murdoch
type type guy of a media company

987
01:03:20,940 --> 01:03:24,120
and his kids are all fuck ups
you know and he wants to cut

988
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,400
them all out and they're all
fight the whole thing everything

989
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,640
and it's having known a couple
of wealthy families like this

990
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,480
it's pretty accurate I would say
in the in the kind of shit that

991
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:39,930
goes on. But he's his kind of
line in the in the series is

992
01:03:39,930 --> 01:03:49,170
this fuck off. And then turning
that into an NFT he apparently

993
01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:52,380
he makes like five grand a pop
on cameo. Are you familiar with

994
01:03:52,380 --> 01:03:56,850
cameo? No, it's approached me
several times. Now. Cameo was an

995
01:03:56,850 --> 01:04:00,660
app and Snoop Dogg. A whole
bunch of actors do it. I just

996
01:04:00,660 --> 01:04:03,540
can't bring myself to do it. And
you could set a price you say

997
01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:06,240
you want a personal video
message from Adam curry. It'll

998
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:10,200
be you know, $2,000 and through
the app, they pay for it and

999
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,010
then you do it.

1000
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:16,800
Essentially, those people that
ask us to do exactly the same

1001
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:17,820
thing for $1

1002
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:26,820
If that so, so he gets $5,000 I
think we're just doing a Dave

1003
01:04:26,820 --> 01:04:31,530
Jones fuck off. Five grand for
that. Sounds like shit. We got

1004
01:04:31,530 --> 01:04:35,310
to do NF T's and they're doing
it. This would be a Brian Cox

1005
01:04:35,310 --> 01:04:36,000
and ft.

1006
01:04:38,850 --> 01:04:45,750
I mean, I just don't you know. I
understand that NF T's I

1007
01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:49,230
understand that they can be
valuable in certain context as

1008
01:04:49,230 --> 01:04:54,690
I'm not Pooh poohing the whole
idea of an NF t mean because

1009
01:04:54,690 --> 01:04:57,180
essentially an NF t is just a
cryptographically

1010
01:04:57,179 --> 01:04:59,969
secure proof of ownership is
honest. Yeah.

1011
01:05:00,359 --> 01:05:04,259
Yeah. And that in and of itself
is, is a sales

1012
01:05:04,260 --> 01:05:09,090
receipt. Yeah. But without the
goods, if it's digital, I

1013
01:05:09,090 --> 01:05:11,610
believe in NF T's for physical
goods. I think that's a pretty

1014
01:05:11,610 --> 01:05:12,480
interesting idea.

1015
01:05:13,650 --> 01:05:18,030
So and I could see it as being
sort of a token that you can

1016
01:05:18,030 --> 01:05:23,040
pass around to give people well,
here's,

1017
01:05:23,070 --> 01:05:26,010
here's how I would do mission
for things or here's Yeah,

1018
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:30,000
here's how I would do it. If we
were going to do an NFT. It

1019
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,480
would be none. No, we're not
going to I'm just saying if

1020
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:38,550
there would be numbered T
shirts. And you

1021
01:05:38,579 --> 01:05:40,019
can't even get real T shirts out

1022
01:05:40,020 --> 01:05:46,260
there. Hey, let's thank some
people. The real the real

1023
01:05:46,260 --> 01:05:50,250
business, which is value for
value, the whole podcast index

1024
01:05:50,250 --> 01:05:54,270
project is value for value this
podcast is value for value. We

1025
01:05:54,270 --> 01:05:57,840
have been delivering value and
we love receiving value back

1026
01:05:57,900 --> 01:06:01,800
every developer, every thinker,
every podcaster, who was

1027
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,950
contributed is a part of this
system. Go read Gee gees

1028
01:06:04,950 --> 01:06:09,360
article, you see the you're part
of a trend that that has been

1029
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,560
around for 1000s of years. But
yeah, we are resurrecting with

1030
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,800
our new tools, which can be very
proud proud of what we're doing.

1031
01:06:17,699 --> 01:06:22,139
Is section of that article on
maximizing profits. Yeah. Top

1032
01:06:22,139 --> 01:06:22,799
notch. Yes.

1033
01:06:23,969 --> 01:06:28,859
So who do we thank today for
supporting, supporting

1034
01:06:28,859 --> 01:06:29,849
everything, Dave?

1035
01:06:30,990 --> 01:06:35,730
out of the gate? We're thanking
Benjamin and Ben and Roberto

1036
01:06:35,730 --> 01:06:42,930
from rss.com. Who gave us
$1,800.57 Oh, my

1037
01:06:43,650 --> 01:06:49,680
goodness. Sakala 20 is Blaze
only. Now does this come after I

1038
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:54,780
post my posts on podcast index
dot social that oh, by the way,

1039
01:06:54,780 --> 01:06:59,460
everybody? The hosting guys are
supporting us more than anybody.

1040
01:06:59,820 --> 01:07:04,500
Yeah, they put up poor mouth
this and, and made everybody

1041
01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:07,950
step up, which they did in a
huge weigh. It

1042
01:07:07,949 --> 01:07:11,189
seems like everybody stepped up
and that was really

1043
01:07:11,189 --> 01:07:15,629
heartwarming. You know, it's
because it's easy to forget. And

1044
01:07:15,629 --> 01:07:18,539
I know, this is why you know,
value for value has to

1045
01:07:18,539 --> 01:07:21,149
continuously you have to remind
you have to ask people, you have

1046
01:07:21,149 --> 01:07:23,219
to tell people what you're
doing. Sometimes you throw a sad

1047
01:07:23,219 --> 01:07:26,939
puppy. If you broke if you're
broke, you say we're broke. Now

1048
01:07:26,939 --> 01:07:29,939
we're not broke. But you you
laid it right out there. Yeah,

1049
01:07:29,939 --> 01:07:32,219
we're pretty much breakeven,
we're not putting any money in

1050
01:07:32,219 --> 01:07:34,769
our pockets. No, is going right
back into the operation.

1051
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,600
Yeah. And it's that sort of
transparency. Help helps people

1052
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,450
to understand where we're at.
And, you

1053
01:07:42,449 --> 01:07:46,079
know, and also people, you know,
if you just listen and count,

1054
01:07:46,709 --> 01:07:49,559
you can find out exactly how
much comes in every week. We're

1055
01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:54,149
giving the amounts on the show.
Yeah, it's easy to track.

1056
01:07:54,630 --> 01:08:01,530
Our our expenses run roughly
1000 to 1200 a month. And you

1057
01:08:01,530 --> 01:08:04,140
can just listen to the shows and
see what's coming. Are they

1058
01:08:04,140 --> 01:08:07,050
getting 1000 or 1200 a month?
It's pretty obvious. Yeah,

1059
01:08:07,050 --> 01:08:07,200
that's

1060
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,000
about it. Exactly.

1061
01:08:09,630 --> 01:08:15,900
So yeah, they sent us $1,800.57
He says, this has been he says

1062
01:08:15,930 --> 01:08:23,850
here's a one here's a 1k boost.
118 150 857 says what a great

1063
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,000
year we've had listening to and
watching the podcasting 2.0 and

1064
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,510
podcast index journey. The whole
team@rss.com wishes the whole

1065
01:08:30,510 --> 01:08:34,260
team behind the 2.0 namespace
and equally successful 2020 to

1066
01:08:34,440 --> 01:08:39,150
go podcasting. What was that?

1067
01:08:45,060 --> 01:08:46,170
That's the keeper.

1068
01:08:46,889 --> 01:08:50,069
Oh, is that is that the keeper
filtered through a

1069
01:08:51,480 --> 01:08:54,420
nurse? No, Sherman. Yeah, she
threw she threw this out on the

1070
01:08:54,420 --> 01:08:58,140
show. And just before we started
today, I just grabbed it and I

1071
01:08:58,140 --> 01:09:01,410
recorded it and I and I think
over modulate it

1072
01:09:05,070 --> 01:09:06,180
inside of Theramin

1073
01:09:06,570 --> 01:09:08,670
that I saw I kind of liked it.
I'm like we just got to keep

1074
01:09:08,670 --> 01:09:09,390
that one going.

1075
01:09:11,940 --> 01:09:16,050
Brian of London gave us a an
interesting boost. He gave us a

1076
01:09:16,050 --> 01:09:21,990
$500 donation through Hive $500
In hive. Okay, Brian, what

1077
01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:24,150
is the hive equivalent of boost?

1078
01:09:26,849 --> 01:09:36,809
Boost boost, Okay, nice. And he
asked me he said you know, hey,

1079
01:09:36,809 --> 01:09:40,529
I want to I want to donate $500
Do I want it in lightning or in

1080
01:09:40,529 --> 01:09:43,049
hive? And I was like, you know,
I mean it's just your brand of

1081
01:09:43,049 --> 01:09:43,859
London. Yeah,

1082
01:09:43,890 --> 01:09:47,040
you gotta be has to be hive.
Hello. Yeah. And that's good. We

1083
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:47,910
need hive power.

1084
01:09:48,450 --> 01:09:50,940
We do. Yep. Because we still
want to build that up so that we

1085
01:09:50,940 --> 01:09:53,580
can be self sufficient. self
sufficient.

1086
01:09:53,970 --> 01:09:58,500
Hive independent. That is
independent moron canes and Aki

1087
01:09:58,500 --> 01:09:59,940
independent is what we are

1088
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:07,020
Marco Arment gave us $500 Marco
every month

1089
01:10:07,050 --> 01:10:11,460
now is his search still is hit
our index at all.

1090
01:10:12,150 --> 01:10:15,570
No, he's he's still married to
Apple when it comes to search

1091
01:10:15,630 --> 01:10:18,960
because people are saying hey, I
can't find Korean the keeper on

1092
01:10:19,260 --> 01:10:20,280
on overcast.

1093
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:26,670
Yeah. And I don't I don't know
how amenable he would be to

1094
01:10:26,730 --> 01:10:28,170
opening up a little bit.

1095
01:10:28,440 --> 01:10:31,380
Now he's he's got he's got his
own theory on that. That's fine.

1096
01:10:32,190 --> 01:10:33,240
Yeah. You know, so.

1097
01:10:33,870 --> 01:10:37,410
I mean, he's not getting some
top notch content. That's true.

1098
01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:44,190
But he Yeah, he's comes in every
month without fail. $500 and is

1099
01:10:44,190 --> 01:10:46,050
greatly appreciated. and

1100
01:10:46,110 --> 01:10:49,020
way, way above and beyond. Yes.

1101
01:10:50,130 --> 01:10:55,260
Thank you, Martha. Alice gates,
the podcasting. 2.0. Consultant.

1102
01:10:55,290 --> 01:10:58,290
Yes. $100. One off.

1103
01:10:58,500 --> 01:11:00,570
Thank you. Thank you very much,
Alex.

1104
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,080
Alex is working on some stuff.
And Alex started a new job. And

1105
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:08,610
so he's been he's been pressed
for time, but he's, he's

1106
01:11:08,610 --> 01:11:13,560
definitely starting some. Some
more work on the piping. Oh,

1107
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:18,150
cool. Yeah, he's gonna be
working on pod on integrating

1108
01:11:18,150 --> 01:11:21,240
the live notifications and stuff
like that into pod paying me.

1109
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,460
He's really already back working
on it right now. Cool.

1110
01:11:23,490 --> 01:11:26,190
Well, yeah, he settled into the
job. He's automated all the

1111
01:11:26,190 --> 01:11:30,060
tasks, you know, he's just
drinking coffee. Like, what can

1112
01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:33,000
I do? Oh, yeah. Let me get back
to piping. Yes. Was that I just

1113
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,840
imagine him being that guy. Oh,
I see what needs to be done per

1114
01:11:36,900 --> 01:11:38,460
it's all set. Okay, it's
rolling.

1115
01:11:38,850 --> 01:11:41,220
He built the Rube Goldberg
machine and then he can just go

1116
01:11:41,730 --> 01:11:49,320
do it. Yes. That madeiros from
Cass DOS, send us $100 Thank you

1117
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:50,970
says go podcasting.

1118
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:51,810
Yeah.

1119
01:11:53,460 --> 01:11:57,150
Did you see his video on that
on? Yes,

1120
01:11:57,150 --> 01:11:59,490
I did. I did. It was fantastic.

1121
01:11:59,910 --> 01:12:04,680
Top notch. I had this idea last
night. That that I was gonna

1122
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:09,180
chop that video up and throw in
put in and put in some music and

1123
01:12:09,180 --> 01:12:13,050
stuff like that and like do some
sort of like GX to mix up mash

1124
01:12:13,050 --> 01:12:21,030
up. Nice. Yeah. And I felt like
boost boost. See, thank you,

1125
01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:27,630
Matt. Oscar Mary. He a fountain
FM same. Gave us $100 And he

1126
01:12:27,630 --> 01:12:30,150
says for the server's Merry
Christmas.

1127
01:12:30,180 --> 01:12:33,360
Merry Christmas to you. And
thank you and I love the latest.

1128
01:12:34,140 --> 01:12:38,760
latest marketing. Yes, fountain
is showing us the top value for

1129
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:39,810
value apps.

1130
01:12:40,590 --> 01:12:41,580
It's like the top

1131
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,870
rock. Yeah. Oh, no. We got
another one. Hold on a second.

1132
01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:46,110
Yeah,

1133
01:12:46,110 --> 01:12:56,400
it was that report report. Uh
oh. Holy shit. What was the big

1134
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:57,360
one? Yeah.

1135
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:04,020
It was a dude. It was a Dred
Scott came in live. Came in live

1136
01:13:04,020 --> 01:13:07,020
and he says it's 100,000 sat
boost.

1137
01:13:07,470 --> 01:13:12,090
Oh, crap. Was that to us? Yeah.
Oh, you're reading it live?

1138
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:17,070
And he says yeah, he says go
podcasting. Huh? Yeah, he

1139
01:13:17,070 --> 01:13:21,180
boosted episode 67. I know
exactly what like Dred Scott. I

1140
01:13:21,180 --> 01:13:25,440
don't this guy is Bruce Wayne.
Okay. So he is Bruce Lee. He's

1141
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:28,650
the Bruce Wayne of podcasting.
2.0 He knows that we're doing

1142
01:13:28,650 --> 01:13:32,220
the show right now. He knows
that the pew pew because it

1143
01:13:32,220 --> 01:13:35,910
happened while Tina and I were
doing the show. He knows the pew

1144
01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:40,350
pew comes through. And he's
doing this. I guarantee you.

1145
01:13:40,860 --> 01:13:43,500
He's like, I'm going to be the
first person to do a booster

1146
01:13:43,500 --> 01:13:45,180
Graham live on the show. And he
did it.

1147
01:13:45,810 --> 01:13:50,760
You need you need to somehow
hook that thing up where it'll

1148
01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:52,650
where? Where you can hear it.

1149
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,010
Yeah, yeah. I'm going to turn it
on. What do you mean, I need to

1150
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:57,600
quit? Do you know you're talking
to?

1151
01:13:58,140 --> 01:14:00,900
Oh, yeah, no, I'm giving audio
advice to the

1152
01:14:02,460 --> 01:14:05,070
let me send me let me send
myself a booster gram. See if it

1153
01:14:05,070 --> 01:14:10,530
works. Who's so thank you drip,
drip? Just come on. 1000 sets.

1154
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,770
Okay, let me just see if this
you have a message in there. Go

1155
01:14:13,770 --> 01:14:17,340
podcasting? Yeah, okay. Yeah.
Did did the Go podcasting. But

1156
01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:20,940
wow, this is very exciting. When
are we doing this live? Dave?

1157
01:14:20,940 --> 01:14:24,540
When are we going to throw up
the stream and Steven B is

1158
01:14:24,540 --> 01:14:26,220
working on some stuff secretly.

1159
01:14:26,820 --> 01:14:32,640
Okay. Whenever we can get live.
Let's see. I'm doing live

1160
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:38,940
medical analysis. On the show
here. I've got my fever is 99.8.

1161
01:14:39,300 --> 01:14:40,080
That's coming down.

1162
01:14:40,140 --> 01:14:44,130
Oh, man. Okay, so I just boosted
myself from pod friend. Let's

1163
01:14:44,130 --> 01:14:45,900
see if that comes through and if
it works,

1164
01:14:46,590 --> 01:14:52,020
okay. All right. Thank you,
Jared. There. How long did that

1165
01:14:52,020 --> 01:14:53,430
take away? What was the times
five

1166
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:54,270
seconds maybe?

1167
01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:58,200
Dos Beautiful. Well, whoever
made helipads

1168
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:03,150
it's just an awesome dude is
broadhead. So clearly, clearly

1169
01:15:03,150 --> 01:15:03,900
top notch.

1170
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:09,240
Chris Christopher? laconic.
What? All right this is a hard

1171
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:14,130
name. He's Chris LW on podcast
index dot social. His name is

1172
01:15:14,430 --> 01:15:19,050
Chris Christopher. laconic.
Vital. Okay. All right, Chris,

1173
01:15:19,050 --> 01:15:22,950
tell me if that's right. He
gives $100 And he says, Keep up

1174
01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:26,460
the great work and 2022 Chris
from CT Larry. I guess that's

1175
01:15:26,460 --> 01:15:27,000
Connecticut.

1176
01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:28,800
Thank you, man. Thank you very
much.

1177
01:15:28,830 --> 01:15:33,600
Yeah, thank you Chris.
Appreciate it, man. $100 very

1178
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:40,560
much appreciated by everybody.
It was so nice. Edward Sullivan

1179
01:15:41,220 --> 01:15:46,530
gave us $100 And there's no note
attached to Eversole this mo

1180
01:15:46,530 --> 01:15:47,970
We do appreciate how you doing.

1181
01:15:51,900 --> 01:15:58,140
Hey, Dan boaster. Kevin Bay.
been around a long time. Kevin

1182
01:15:58,140 --> 01:16:01,560
Bay has been around forever. He
sent us $100 And he says Merry

1183
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,290
Christmas Dave and Adam
podcasting. 2.0 is the gift that

1184
01:16:04,290 --> 01:16:13,110
keeps on giving go podcasting?
Yes, they are. Oh, here we go.

1185
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:18,600
James Krillin gave us a he did a
$50 subscription for us.

1186
01:16:18,780 --> 01:16:23,880
Wow. Thank you very much. Yeah,
that's cool. We we put them in

1187
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,160
the value block by the way that
that was cool.

1188
01:16:26,610 --> 01:16:28,620
Did he get anything from it?
Yes, yes.

1189
01:16:29,220 --> 01:16:32,640
I said okay, James, I've
published the feed I've got you

1190
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:37,890
in the split I promised him 30%
And and he came back right away

1191
01:16:37,890 --> 01:16:41,130
and posted a screenshot he said
received so it was working.

1192
01:16:41,730 --> 01:16:46,530
Okay, so I want to pause here
for a second and just realize

1193
01:16:46,530 --> 01:16:51,750
what has happened this may be a
first of all time. We have

1194
01:16:51,750 --> 01:16:57,210
gotten successfully gotten a
consultant to give us money.

1195
01:16:58,230 --> 01:17:05,340
Alice gates and also a
journalist to give us money. Can

1196
01:17:05,340 --> 01:17:07,590
I just say that we were cooking
with gas

1197
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,010
Thank you, Jane. excellent
observation. Watson.

1198
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:19,920
Thank you. Very good. Lisa
DeFore to gave us $25 And there

1199
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,210
was no note from Lisa

1200
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:24,660
women she Lisa. Where do we know
Lisa from?

1201
01:17:25,290 --> 01:17:28,590
I don't know at least it afford
so show that name. No.

1202
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:35,640
We don't have many women in the
in the in the gang. So the

1203
01:17:35,670 --> 01:17:38,820
the best thing though the alarms
went off is with a woman donate.

1204
01:17:39,780 --> 01:17:44,430
Yeah. Well, welcome. You're
welcome here. We're nerds. We're

1205
01:17:44,430 --> 01:17:45,210
harmless.

1206
01:17:46,410 --> 01:17:49,140
So at least if you get a note
make Yeah. Let us

1207
01:17:49,140 --> 01:17:50,850
know. Yeah. Let us know what
you're doing. If you're working

1208
01:17:50,850 --> 01:17:51,420
on something.

1209
01:17:52,830 --> 01:17:57,660
Clicked family scouts gave us
$25 And no note on that. Thank

1210
01:17:57,660 --> 01:17:59,010
you Cliff family scouts,

1211
01:17:59,070 --> 01:18:03,120
by the way, just so people know
in the curry household here in

1212
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:07,140
the hill country in the shack.
All you know I have four

1213
01:18:07,170 --> 01:18:12,960
podcasts. All of them have at
least a monitoring split in the

1214
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:17,070
value block from my Umbro that
pew pew sound is a part of our

1215
01:18:17,070 --> 01:18:23,520
life. It is it is so cool. It'd
be like mostly Graham. Graham

1216
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:24,630
pew pew pew booster.

1217
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:32,550
All day. It's like haptics, yes.
Yes. Haptics

1218
01:18:32,580 --> 01:18:33,510
haptics.

1219
01:18:35,610 --> 01:18:41,880
Imran Ockman gave us $21. Thank
you. Oh, here's his note says

1220
01:18:41,940 --> 01:18:44,490
from great pods with the thanks.
Oh, thanks.

1221
01:18:44,580 --> 01:18:45,810
Thank you. Great pods.

1222
01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:49,020
Great pods. Yeah, I know those
guys. Follow him on Twitter.

1223
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:54,630
Thank you, Imran and great pods.
Let's see here. Okay, I'm gonna

1224
01:18:54,690 --> 01:19:01,200
I'm gonna try to say this name.
Tomas Co. Blum ship SJ o with

1225
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:02,820
own lot. BLM.

1226
01:19:04,350 --> 01:19:07,080
Show Blum? Yeah. Sounds about
right. Alright.

1227
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:11,370
Tomas. Joe Blum gave us $20 No
note that Thank you, Thomas.

1228
01:19:11,370 --> 01:19:11,520
Thank

1229
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:18,120
you very much Thomas. From a
from a Scandinavian region. Yep,

1230
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,130
does have the Oh with it with
the line through it.

1231
01:19:20,850 --> 01:19:24,480
It's Oh, with two dots above it.
Oh, boom. Loud. And uhm, loud

1232
01:19:24,510 --> 01:19:25,590
online. Yeah.

1233
01:19:27,630 --> 01:19:29,760
What is what is the thing with
the I'm sorry to interrupt what

1234
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,770
is the thing with the line to
it? What do you call that?

1235
01:19:33,330 --> 01:19:34,800
I call it a thing with a line
for me

1236
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,920
to just seem like it's the right
thing to call it though.

1237
01:19:39,780 --> 01:19:41,670
I call it the short vowels.

1238
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:48,450
Call it something that doesn't
work in Unicode as well. Like it

1239
01:19:48,450 --> 01:19:51,420
doesn't show up could be an
emoji could be some Swedish

1240
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:57,840
and emotes yeah it yes messed
up. OPML is Ko Cohen glotzbach

1241
01:19:57,870 --> 01:20:01,980
gave us $5 Thank you. No note
and he's got Oh, that's a

1242
01:20:01,980 --> 01:20:03,090
subscription if I don't

1243
01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:06,030
eautiful server Thanks, man.
Yep,

1244
01:20:06,570 --> 01:20:14,340
thank you JC Van Brunt sent us
$5 I mean Did he just made he

1245
01:20:14,340 --> 01:20:16,200
may be from Texas and just say
Van Brunt

1246
01:20:16,890 --> 01:20:18,870
Rambo was a fun brute.

1247
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:21,870
Yeah move on board. I'm gonna
give him the you know the formal

1248
01:20:21,930 --> 01:20:30,270
title benefit Yes $5 Thank you,
Vaughn. Boom we get some the oh

1249
01:20:30,270 --> 01:20:32,790
wait, wait before I'm not doing
monthlies yet I gotta do booster

1250
01:20:32,790 --> 01:20:32,970
green

1251
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:39,090
boost grams I haven't heard
here's your cue to boost you

1252
01:20:39,090 --> 01:20:42,690
know you want to boost boost
boost

1253
01:20:45,900 --> 01:20:50,310
boost donation from circus media
he says 808 through breeze and

1254
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:53,190
he says boost yeah guys are
awesome. Thank you for all the

1255
01:20:53,190 --> 01:21:00,900
value the the over modulation on
that makes it worse. That's what

1256
01:21:00,900 --> 01:21:04,380
does it I know. Yeah. It's it's
like Jimi Hendrix of booster

1257
01:21:04,380 --> 01:21:04,920
grams.

1258
01:21:06,630 --> 01:21:09,750
That's it. Yeah. Since then the
guitar on fire with it with a

1259
01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:14,580
lot of fluid. Yeah. Stephen B.
Oh, Steven B. Through Curia

1260
01:21:14,580 --> 01:21:19,380
Castro of course. Send a 61,241
sat

1261
01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:21,450
Thank you.

1262
01:21:21,990 --> 01:21:24,900
I'm so glad that you're feeling
better Steven. Yeah had a rough

1263
01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:29,730
go of it. He did. Man anytime
you have like a gut thing. Oh,

1264
01:21:29,730 --> 01:21:31,530
so it's just missed so

1265
01:21:31,530 --> 01:21:34,680
Dave went I know that April gets
nuts for you again so we have

1266
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,280
this window. Now do you think
you'll be could you hook it up

1267
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:44,190
to up to Texas or over to Texas
before then so we can do like a

1268
01:21:44,190 --> 01:21:48,780
2.0 meetup so many people who
are a part of this are in Texas.

1269
01:21:49,470 --> 01:21:52,740
It has to be after Yeah, it has
to be after after the after

1270
01:21:52,740 --> 01:21:56,580
April. Okay, April 15. Okay,
yeah, cuz we yeah, we have the

1271
01:21:56,580 --> 01:22:01,140
run up to like we're we're full
bore right now with onboarding

1272
01:22:01,140 --> 01:22:03,540
new employees and all that stuff
or someone

1273
01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:06,240
out there could just say this is
such a great project I'm going

1274
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:11,100
to donate $100,000 So that Dave
can stop working for the man

1275
01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:16,050
Hmm Oh, that's also an option
that was one heartedly endorse

1276
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,260
it's a big boost. Quite a boost.

1277
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,830
Stephen basic I don't have as
much time talent nor treasure as

1278
01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:26,220
I'd like oh please you got all
three of those Thank you indeed.

1279
01:22:26,730 --> 01:22:30,480
But this project is important so
here's half of curio caster sets

1280
01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:33,990
from last month Now that's
interesting that is your last

1281
01:22:33,990 --> 01:22:40,680
month he got 120,000 sets I mean
polls but hold on a job money

1282
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:41,340
but I mean

1283
01:22:41,490 --> 01:22:48,300
that's quite decent and I would
say on the list of just you know

1284
01:22:48,300 --> 01:22:54,510
the data that I'm seeing I would
say curio casters consistently

1285
01:22:54,510 --> 01:23:01,350
three number three on the list
with the kind of depends like

1286
01:23:01,830 --> 01:23:04,590
period caster pod friend curio
caster is a little higher I

1287
01:23:04,590 --> 01:23:09,150
think on the what we're seeing
coming in and then breeze and

1288
01:23:09,150 --> 01:23:13,170
fountain I think is has been top
for a while

1289
01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:17,610
so that's roughly 50 bucks at
the current exchange rate

1290
01:23:18,900 --> 01:23:27,540
120,000 Sasa roughly 50 $85 a
month of income so I mean if

1291
01:23:27,540 --> 01:23:31,620
you're talking about I mean
boost if you were to get that

1292
01:23:31,650 --> 01:23:33,960
ups to

1293
01:23:34,620 --> 01:23:38,430
just need more people just need
more people to use it. That's

1294
01:23:38,430 --> 01:23:38,610
Oh,

1295
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:42,810
yes. Then you're talking to 250
bucks a month of income.

1296
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:49,140
Yeah, you know, I'm an app
that's like cocaine money I

1297
01:23:49,140 --> 01:23:52,920
don't know why I said that. No
idea why I said that.

1298
01:23:54,210 --> 01:23:54,960
Cocaine money

1299
01:23:55,020 --> 01:23:56,130
I don't even like it

1300
01:23:59,550 --> 01:24:02,490
yeah, well thank you Steven Bay
you didn't you didn't have to do

1301
01:24:02,490 --> 01:24:03,900
that. I appreciate

1302
01:24:03,900 --> 01:24:08,700
it and and and love the Jenny
the the the broken out Jenny

1303
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,430
he's also got the image tags
working in there

1304
01:24:12,180 --> 01:24:16,110
yeah, yes. Oh, that yeah, that
he that the genie has turned

1305
01:24:16,110 --> 01:24:20,010
into such a good testbed for all
this stuff. This is what we

1306
01:24:20,010 --> 01:24:20,640
always wanted.

1307
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:25,920
I'm even adding my my social
links now to my other shows I've

1308
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:29,640
gotten dangerous. Oh, yeah. Well
from different Mastodon servers,

1309
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,920
which I promptly fucked up but
I'll get better.

1310
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:39,120
Comic Strip blogger gives 3333
sets from pot friend let me

1311
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:43,350
guess he has a note. He does
have a nemesis. Merry Christmas

1312
01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:48,060
to you, AC and Merry Christmas
to you AC and today. More

1313
01:24:48,060 --> 01:24:51,330
booster grams next week. Okay,
he sent that on December 23.

1314
01:24:51,330 --> 01:24:55,110
That was just a Christmas No,
no. Play for podcasting.ai

1315
01:24:55,199 --> 01:25:01,649
Well, let's play AI dot cooking
is AI podcast. Get the boost

1316
01:25:01,649 --> 01:25:02,279
CSB.

1317
01:25:02,820 --> 01:25:06,420
I see a couple of 3330 threes in
here. I bet he's gonna yes gotta

1318
01:25:06,420 --> 01:25:08,970
be it's gotta be he does three a
three year show.

1319
01:25:09,420 --> 01:25:14,880
Yeah. Donations to see 50 sets
from Chris through the fountain

1320
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,250
app and he just says raw

1321
01:25:17,940 --> 01:25:18,360
okay

1322
01:25:20,850 --> 01:25:26,310
we read them all people this
diagram 20,222 SATs a huge

1323
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:30,360
second row of ducks yeah a long
line of ducks from hardhat

1324
01:25:30,900 --> 01:25:33,900
through the curio caster and he
says, upping the SATs and lining

1325
01:25:33,900 --> 01:25:34,890
up a road ducks

1326
01:25:34,919 --> 01:25:38,699
very nice thank you. Thank you
see everyone heard it. Everyone

1327
01:25:38,699 --> 01:25:41,729
heard like you know what? These
booster grams are great but we

1328
01:25:41,759 --> 01:25:44,549
didn't mean up the money a
little bit and that's it. You're

1329
01:25:44,549 --> 01:25:46,949
doing it you're doing it thank
you. Boost

1330
01:25:47,820 --> 01:25:52,080
able Kirby 20,000 SATs through
curio caster and he says extra

1331
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,780
boost for good measure. Thank
you, Abel Kirby,

1332
01:25:54,810 --> 01:25:58,170
thank you very much. How long
has it been since you clicked

1333
01:25:58,170 --> 01:26:01,950
boost? That's too long. That's
right.

1334
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:07,050
That's a bell curve. Is it was
it I thought it

1335
01:26:07,050 --> 01:26:14,160
was I have the ring of fire down

1336
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,760
the rate of fire podcast Ring of
Fire

1337
01:26:23,790 --> 01:26:27,030
is there another one being set
up another podcast Ring of Fire.

1338
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:32,130
There was one that somebody was
doing one because Spencer said

1339
01:26:32,130 --> 01:26:35,670
he was doing it the other night.
I guess they already did it. Oh,

1340
01:26:36,090 --> 01:26:38,820
Abel Kirby again 45,000 said oh,

1341
01:26:39,660 --> 01:26:41,460
man, this is it.

1342
01:26:41,670 --> 01:26:47,340
This is the album drop here.
Through Kira caster he says Dear

1343
01:26:47,340 --> 01:26:52,710
admin Dave Merry Christmas.
Today Spencer and I are

1344
01:26:52,710 --> 01:26:56,460
releasing our podcasting 2.0
value for value album. Our band

1345
01:26:56,460 --> 01:27:00,180
is called Abel in the wolf and
the album is called stay a while

1346
01:27:00,690 --> 01:27:03,180
there's been a lot of buzz about
it so I hope we can live up to

1347
01:27:03,180 --> 01:27:09,660
the hype as Karen down put it in
put it were quoted it as Karen

1348
01:27:09,660 --> 01:27:13,440
down put it in a quote the
hottest Christmas album drops

1349
01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:24,330
It's Crazy Frog you can find it
at freaks yes we're so this

1350
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:28,350
everybody involved with this
thing is super weird. You can

1351
01:27:28,350 --> 01:27:32,100
find it at ABL in the wolf calm,
but it will show up in any PC

1352
01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:36,360
2.0 Music app should one ever be
created. Just exactly what we

1353
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:39,300
were talking about earlier. Ah
huh. Please give it a listen.

1354
01:27:39,300 --> 01:27:44,400
Also, Adam I do still expect
Album of the Year go podcasting?

1355
01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:49,260
Absolutely. Podcast right in
under the wire ladies and

1356
01:27:49,260 --> 01:27:52,440
gentlemen released in the last
week of the year, the album of

1357
01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:55,650
the year the MVP table in the
wolf.

1358
01:27:56,700 --> 01:28:00,600
So maybe that means that we
should have a

1359
01:28:01,050 --> 01:28:05,880
an award show award. Yes, award.
Here's the award show. Here's

1360
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:11,610
how it works. It is in fact who
boost the most wins.

1361
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:15,600
He's just it's just wrong.

1362
01:28:15,810 --> 01:28:18,750
We have multiple No no, no, we
have multiple categories. We

1363
01:28:18,750 --> 01:28:25,620
have categories of booster gram
jokes, booster gram tips, as in

1364
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:29,220
tip, a tech tip booster gram
tech tip and like and then the

1365
01:28:29,250 --> 01:28:31,260
the more you know, boost
category.

1366
01:28:32,340 --> 01:28:36,120
I like it. And then the always
popular king of the hill.

1367
01:28:36,630 --> 01:28:38,340
boosted the most of anybody
else.

1368
01:28:38,370 --> 01:28:42,090
Yes, that award. That's right.
That's the one exactly like

1369
01:28:42,180 --> 01:28:45,030
I like the album of the year
though. That's pretty good.

1370
01:28:45,060 --> 01:28:49,800
Well, you Hello. Okay. So
whoever builds this mythical

1371
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:53,670
directory which I just sketched
out, you need the you need to

1372
01:28:53,670 --> 01:28:57,960
have Vitaly, who's popular. And
how do you measure puppet

1373
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:04,200
popularity? I have I have an
idea. You've got the stats. Yet,

1374
01:29:04,290 --> 01:29:09,840
so that's that's yes. This sat
stats. Yep. A Chad Pharaoh

1375
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,830
gave us 333 sets and he says
Welcome to this weekend radio

1376
01:29:13,830 --> 01:29:15,540
Twitter. Okay.

1377
01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:21,660
Thanks, Chad. Chad. Chad has a
he. He's doing more marketing

1378
01:29:21,660 --> 01:29:22,920
than I am. That's for sure.

1379
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:26,130
Yeah, I think he's got an auto
retweet machine we're just using

1380
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:26,820
everywhere

1381
01:29:26,850 --> 01:29:31,350
now is everywhere. Another
mysterious podcasting 2.0 figure

1382
01:29:31,500 --> 01:29:32,910
that makes it so colorful.

1383
01:29:33,780 --> 01:29:38,490
Cast Pilant gives 3300 sets and
he's still fountain. He says

1384
01:29:38,490 --> 01:29:44,370
thanks for the work. Boy. You're
welcome. Thank you. 20,000 sets

1385
01:29:44,370 --> 01:29:48,360
through from Brian mozzie. And
he says, oh, that's your

1386
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:55,650
fountain. He says pew pew
Christmas boost. Boost. Thank

1387
01:29:55,650 --> 01:30:00,750
you, Brian. Up, sir Pete. So
Pete gave us 20 Row ducks.

1388
01:30:00,750 --> 01:30:06,120
22,222 sat through pot friend,
he says. Happy New Year. Thanks

1389
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:07,980
for running this great
initiative. You've been an

1390
01:30:07,980 --> 01:30:10,050
inspiration. Here's a big second
ducks.

1391
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:14,760
Nice quack quack. We did a duck
sound don't we? We need to duck

1392
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:20,580
boost. Yeah. Do I have a quack
in my should I do not have a

1393
01:30:20,580 --> 01:30:22,290
crack sound effect?

1394
01:30:22,830 --> 01:30:27,090
Somebody can help us out. Yeah,
put in the toolbox. Brian mozzie

1395
01:30:27,090 --> 01:30:32,610
again with 14,851 SATs. Oh, I
like it because, okay, here's

1396
01:30:32,610 --> 01:30:35,940
this. Here's what he did the
time stamp and this booster gram

1397
01:30:35,940 --> 01:30:41,340
is one hour, 48 minutes and 51
seconds. So he said this. Oh

1398
01:30:41,340 --> 01:30:43,560
1485 Nice.

1399
01:30:43,650 --> 01:30:48,870
Yeah, that's slick. Hey, there's
another thing. Automatically the

1400
01:30:48,870 --> 01:30:51,540
boost number goes up by number
of minutes. You're listening.

1401
01:30:52,380 --> 01:30:56,610
I like that that will encourage
people to do like, like 40 hour

1402
01:30:56,610 --> 01:30:57,360
episodes.

1403
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:05,760
Yes. Now I don't have a duck.
But I do know how to solicit

1404
01:31:05,820 --> 01:31:13,290
duck donations. duck call, it'll
always do it.

1405
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:15,630
You hear that? A lot around the
hilltop.

1406
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,640
YES. Jimmy Vaughn and the duck
calls.

1407
01:31:21,180 --> 01:31:24,690
Jimmy Vaughn was He who sees
Stevie Ray Vaughn's brother.

1408
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:26,070
Yeah. Older brother. Okay,

1409
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,180
man. That's one of the biggest
regrets that I have is I had a

1410
01:31:30,180 --> 01:31:36,480
chance to see. I had a chance to
see Billy Stevie Ray Vaughan. He

1411
01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:40,470
was He came and played with Eric
Clapton. Yes, that's right. In

1412
01:31:40,470 --> 01:31:45,510
Birmingham, and this was like
literally ended up being like

1413
01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:50,430
two months before he died and
did not go to the show. I ended

1414
01:31:50,430 --> 01:31:54,210
up I think I chose some I
already had tickets and

1415
01:31:54,210 --> 01:31:57,480
everything and I thought I
ditched it for something else.

1416
01:31:57,810 --> 01:32:00,510
And and then he died. Like,
three weeks later. I was like,

1417
01:32:00,540 --> 01:32:00,990
Ah,

1418
01:32:01,169 --> 01:32:05,309
it's interesting. Jimmy is
opening for Clapton right now.

1419
01:32:05,999 --> 01:32:08,819
Oh, really? Yeah. Interesting.
Okay, yeah. And boy that what a

1420
01:32:08,819 --> 01:32:12,209
waste What a stupid waste. That
was such a dumb helicopter. Now

1421
01:32:12,209 --> 01:32:15,239
that you know now I'm a pilot
now. I know. It was just wires

1422
01:32:15,239 --> 01:32:19,589
man. Puking wires locally every
time. Wires What do you mean?

1423
01:32:19,679 --> 01:32:24,659
Oh, the they lifted off from the
from the concert ground and flew

1424
01:32:24,659 --> 01:32:26,219
right into high voltage wire.

1425
01:32:27,630 --> 01:32:29,370
Oh, man, and it's so hard

1426
01:32:29,370 --> 01:32:32,310
to see when you're flying.
That's why whenever you're

1427
01:32:32,310 --> 01:32:35,940
flying a helicopter. Here's the
more you know. When you're

1428
01:32:35,940 --> 01:32:39,120
flying helicopter. You will see
the high power lines. You'll see

1429
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:44,400
the towers. You always always
always fly over the top of a

1430
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:44,880
tower.

1431
01:32:47,070 --> 01:32:49,590
You're out of the out of the
wires. Yep. Okay. Yeah,

1432
01:32:49,620 --> 01:32:53,640
always. Always this perfect comp
and never in between them.

1433
01:32:55,020 --> 01:32:55,830
Always over.

1434
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:01,650
So Brian, LASIK is 14,851 SAS
and he says Hurrah for bug

1435
01:33:01,650 --> 01:33:06,120
fixes. I agree. Yeah, yeah,
maybe made it through the whole

1436
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:09,660
episode without freezing
playback. Oh, this is running

1437
01:33:09,810 --> 01:33:16,410
commentary. So yes, yeah. 14,851
SATs for the 14851 episode

1438
01:33:16,410 --> 01:33:20,610
length tank. Thanks to Oscar in
the fountain team. Yeah, you

1439
01:33:20,610 --> 01:33:27,300
Brian mozzie 500 Nate stats from
anonymous. He says why was six

1440
01:33:27,300 --> 01:33:31,650
afraid of seven? Because 7890
Hey, hello

1441
01:33:31,650 --> 01:33:36,480
see on these on the leaderboard
for the award. A joke boost joke

1442
01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:37,650
booster gram.

1443
01:33:38,130 --> 01:33:44,190
dad joke award. This the comic
strip blogger 3333. Through pod

1444
01:33:44,190 --> 01:33:47,190
for Andy says, first of three
this week. Greetings from comic

1445
01:33:47,190 --> 01:33:50,760
strip blogger to Dave Jones and
ACX and anybody interested in

1446
01:33:50,790 --> 01:33:53,580
artificial intelligence is
welcome to subscribe and listen

1447
01:33:53,580 --> 01:33:58,110
to the podcast called AI cooking
can be found in all podcast apps

1448
01:33:58,110 --> 01:34:02,100
and in all podcast indexes by
searching for AI cooking yo,

1449
01:34:02,910 --> 01:34:13,140
boost. Yo. 10,000 SATs from
Nick. I'm wondering if this is

1450
01:34:13,140 --> 01:34:18,750
the Nick. This may be Oscar
Mary's partner in crime. Okay,

1451
01:34:18,750 --> 01:34:23,970
that sounds nice Nick. See the
fountain app 10,000 SAS and he

1452
01:34:23,970 --> 01:34:26,160
says really enjoyed this
interview with James. Thank you

1453
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,350
Adam and Dave for all your hard
work this year. Well, thank you,

1454
01:34:28,380 --> 01:34:34,980
Nick. Thank you. Okay, 25,000
SATs from Kyle a bear. Wow,

1455
01:34:34,980 --> 01:34:37,980
buddy. Yes, he he of boost fame.

1456
01:34:38,730 --> 01:34:41,730
Here he is. It this is not him.

1457
01:34:45,060 --> 01:34:46,140
Theramin need to

1458
01:34:46,140 --> 01:34:47,670
be your wife or moose

1459
01:34:49,110 --> 01:34:52,080
to be the fountain app. Callay
Bear says Happy Holidays from

1460
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:55,440
the boost guy. Yeah, much love
from the intergalactic boombox,

1461
01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:56,640
the SATs must flow.

1462
01:34:56,670 --> 01:34:57,600
Yeah, one more time.

1463
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,710
Uh oh, this must flow. That's a
dune reference this good Yeah,

1464
01:35:04,770 --> 01:35:15,870
yeah. Let's see 49,049 SATs.
This is the RT e is the fountain

1465
01:35:15,870 --> 01:35:20,310
and he says just saw the at Jack
fountain podcasting 2.0 tweet

1466
01:35:21,060 --> 01:35:23,130
bullish on the future we're
gonna make it Oh, did you see

1467
01:35:23,130 --> 01:35:31,800
that? No. Yeah, Jack Jack Dorsey
retweeted a fountain. What they

1468
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:32,580
found posting

1469
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,670
that's fantastic. Hold on a
second.

1470
01:35:35,700 --> 01:35:38,220
I think it was the end of your
stats thing.

1471
01:35:39,690 --> 01:35:46,020
Wow. Hey now that's cool. Did I
did I did I see this? I need to

1472
01:35:46,020 --> 01:35:50,220
read. Oh, here it is fountain.
Yeah, he he retweeted.

1473
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:58,110
Yeah. One of his tweet. Yeah.
Nice. That's nice. Yeah. Vila

1474
01:35:58,170 --> 01:36:02,850
gave us 1000 SATs. And he says
the pod friend and he says Happy

1475
01:36:02,850 --> 01:36:04,200
New Year. Well, Happy New

1476
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:05,550
Year. Happy New Year to you.

1477
01:36:07,140 --> 01:36:11,370
Oh 1000 SATs from Nomad Joe
through pod friend and he says

1478
01:36:11,370 --> 01:36:16,860
Happy Holidays from the road. Yo
manga Drive safe. Yeah. See?

1479
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:23,040
Alex tree bus. Travis tree bus
tree with his 20 is 20,000 sets

1480
01:36:23,310 --> 01:36:27,330
through curio caster and he says
tip ask the programmers to add a

1481
01:36:27,330 --> 01:36:30,690
local currency in the boost
button. Isn't the donators will

1482
01:36:30,690 --> 01:36:33,570
be more aware about the Mt? They
are sending? Yes up the good

1483
01:36:33,570 --> 01:36:36,780
work? Are you are you on board
with that?

1484
01:36:36,900 --> 01:36:41,940
Well, in general, I'm a fan of
you. I'll give I'll tell you

1485
01:36:41,940 --> 01:36:45,090
what I'm a fan of. So here's a
real world example. I'm reading

1486
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:50,250
GGS article. And there's a
natural break in this article

1487
01:36:50,250 --> 01:36:52,530
where he's talking about value
for value and if you value

1488
01:36:52,530 --> 01:36:55,890
something, you're like it you
got to get back and right there.

1489
01:36:55,890 --> 01:37:00,030
He has a support this articles
button. Did you see that? Right.

1490
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,390
Right give value back button.
Yeah, so I hit the value back it

1491
01:37:03,390 --> 01:37:09,360
pops up a QR for Bitcoin not
lightning, but for Bitcoin on

1492
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:13,440
chain. And I'm like, Okay, I'm
gonna send him 50 bucks. And

1493
01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:16,080
then I'm like, No, I'm gonna
send them 100,000 Satoshis. It's

1494
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:20,460
a little less than 5050 bucks.
But for me to be able to see

1495
01:37:20,490 --> 01:37:24,090
hundreds I type in 100,000 and
underneath and small connect zap

1496
01:37:24,090 --> 01:37:29,700
wallet does. It's it's a fiat
currency. I think that is. I

1497
01:37:29,700 --> 01:37:33,630
think that's very handy. And you
know, who requested this the

1498
01:37:33,630 --> 01:37:36,480
most who's always telling me it
was always asking me why don't

1499
01:37:36,480 --> 01:37:41,310
these guys put that? Why don't
they got my Mo. Mo was very

1500
01:37:41,310 --> 01:37:46,650
concerned about this. Okay, so,
yeah, take that for what it's

1501
01:37:46,650 --> 01:37:47,100
worth.

1502
01:37:48,450 --> 01:37:57,150
I mean, I don't know go back and
forth about it. It. I can't I

1503
01:37:57,150 --> 01:38:00,480
mean, if it helps, okay. The
bottom line is if it helps

1504
01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:03,570
adoption, help people to feel
more comfortable with it. I'm

1505
01:38:03,570 --> 01:38:04,140
good with it

1506
01:38:04,140 --> 01:38:06,690
will help adoption tremendously.

1507
01:38:07,290 --> 01:38:12,060
Because the only here's my
reservation about it is that if

1508
01:38:12,060 --> 01:38:19,020
you denominated in local
currencies, is more likely to to

1509
01:38:19,110 --> 01:38:28,560
arouse the ire of regulators.
And people like that. I mean,

1510
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,170
like, because when you think
about it in and

1511
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:37,350
hold on, we can't hide. We, if
that's true, then we're just

1512
01:38:37,350 --> 01:38:38,550
delaying the inevitable.

1513
01:38:39,420 --> 01:38:40,740
Okay, well, let's say

1514
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:46,590
I can say that, so. Okay. How
about the web apps? Do it then?

1515
01:38:47,730 --> 01:38:49,560
Yeah, let's see the web the web
app. Okay.

1516
01:38:49,740 --> 01:38:51,870
So you're not you're not worried
about regulators. You're worried

1517
01:38:51,870 --> 01:38:55,260
about App Store and App Store
payment systems and yeah, you've

1518
01:38:55,260 --> 01:38:58,590
been traumatized by this and you
have now you now have a hang up

1519
01:39:01,110 --> 01:39:03,720
remember that you didn't have
didn't have you have mental

1520
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,510
health issues. I got a hang up
it's just I'm working on it.

1521
01:39:07,440 --> 01:39:12,060
Back in the day, I've been
triggered. I'm triggered. I just

1522
01:39:12,060 --> 01:39:16,800
gotta hang up the head and worry
about um, so

1523
01:39:18,090 --> 01:39:20,400
I'm on a completely different
tab on my browser. I've lost all

1524
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:23,220
context of what we're doing.
We're doing donations so yes.

1525
01:39:25,140 --> 01:39:30,240
Yeah, we were talking about the
fee. I'm, I feel I love the ZAP

1526
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:34,260
wallet has it? You tap it's you
can tap between Fiat and

1527
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,860
sometimes you can tap between
Bitcoin of course, a lot of

1528
01:39:37,860 --> 01:39:43,590
zeros after after the decimal.
So I do think in SATs I do think

1529
01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:48,270
that way. I think it's handy to
know what it really is. And so

1530
01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:52,230
to have that underneath it for
in the ZAP wallet, it's even

1531
01:39:52,230 --> 01:39:56,880
grayed out. It does. It has no
it has. It's very subjective to

1532
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,680
the to the Satoshi amount.

1533
01:39:59,459 --> 01:40:03,179
Well, I go back Back and forth.
And I just look, as long as I

1534
01:40:03,179 --> 01:40:08,819
know roughly what Bitcoin in US
dollars is, if it's the if it's

1535
01:40:08,819 --> 01:40:13,949
50,000 per $50,000 per Bitcoin
at the moment. Yeah,

1536
01:40:14,130 --> 01:40:15,480
that, you know, it's been I
know, I'm

1537
01:40:15,510 --> 01:40:19,020
Yeah, I know that I'm good with
my standard boost amounts, I

1538
01:40:19,020 --> 01:40:22,290
mean, 2112, and things like
that. And once it starts

1539
01:40:22,290 --> 01:40:25,890
creeping up, like, yeah, near
70,000, I have to read and

1540
01:40:25,890 --> 01:40:27,630
reassess. Yes, yes, yeah.

1541
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:31,680
Well, but I think it's, but
there's that angle. But also,

1542
01:40:31,740 --> 01:40:33,600
you know, when we said, hey,
it's great that you're sending

1543
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:37,050
us 1000s Of SATs, but we're, you
know, we were having difficulty

1544
01:40:37,050 --> 01:40:40,260
keeping the lights on. That's
just because people don't really

1545
01:40:40,260 --> 01:40:43,950
think about it, which is good.
Because you want people to see

1546
01:40:43,950 --> 01:40:48,120
it as a game. I mean, as a
mechanism, a loop, something you

1547
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:52,140
can participate in. But when it
comes to pure value, it's

1548
01:40:52,140 --> 01:40:54,720
important people understand what
value they're sending. And I

1549
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:58,110
think that kind of got lost. The
other way to do it is to limit

1550
01:40:58,140 --> 01:41:00,900
booster grams to certain
amounts, which I'm not a big fan

1551
01:41:00,900 --> 01:41:04,140
of, but you have to go with this
project and this podcast, I

1552
01:41:04,140 --> 01:41:06,540
don't think we'll ever have to
do that. Because we will never

1553
01:41:06,540 --> 01:41:09,690
get the audience. It's not
intended for the for the for an

1554
01:41:09,690 --> 01:41:11,640
audience of massive proportion.

1555
01:41:12,539 --> 01:41:14,459
And by the way, we have no idea
how many people listen, this

1556
01:41:14,459 --> 01:41:14,909
show no,

1557
01:41:14,970 --> 01:41:15,720
don't care,

1558
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:17,220
don't know, don't

1559
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:22,740
don't care, I really don't care,
when all I see is Sat streaming

1560
01:41:22,740 --> 01:41:26,610
in every single minute of every
single hour of the day. That's

1561
01:41:26,940 --> 01:41:27,450
listening.

1562
01:41:27,660 --> 01:41:32,880
That's what you're you are on
the new media show. And that's

1563
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:36,660
one of the things that Todd said
he was like, you know, what's

1564
01:41:36,660 --> 01:41:40,200
the biggest most important thing
that every podcaster cares about

1565
01:41:40,440 --> 01:41:44,310
every podcaster? And his answer
was growth.

1566
01:41:45,540 --> 01:41:48,540
And enlight. And I said, No,
what the hell is that? What is

1567
01:41:48,540 --> 01:41:49,050
growth?

1568
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,540
Yeah, that's what you said,
you're like, what does that even

1569
01:41:51,540 --> 01:41:55,470
mean? But as long as you have
the income you need to pay to

1570
01:41:55,470 --> 01:41:59,280
pay your bills, and the things
are good, and you're going in

1571
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:03,030
the right direction. You're not
tanking. Like, why does it

1572
01:42:03,030 --> 01:42:05,670
matter? How many, it only
matters in the context of

1573
01:42:05,670 --> 01:42:09,330
advertising? Yep. And if that's
what it means, that's where you

1574
01:42:09,330 --> 01:42:11,220
want to go, that's fine. But
you're hitching yourself to that

1575
01:42:11,220 --> 01:42:13,350
horse and when you're staying up
all night worried about your

1576
01:42:13,350 --> 01:42:13,830
growth?

1577
01:42:16,860 --> 01:42:17,670
That's a good point.

1578
01:42:18,270 --> 01:42:19,770
We're worried about booster
grams.

1579
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:23,100
Exactly. Or you just walk around
the house and you're like, you

1580
01:42:23,100 --> 01:42:25,740
know, I wonder how the podcast
is, oh, I'm sorry. It's doing

1581
01:42:25,740 --> 01:42:28,020
just fine. People are listening.

1582
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:34,290
5000 sets from C dubs through
the breeze app. And he says

1583
01:42:34,290 --> 01:42:40,410
thanks for the value. C dubs
Thank you see. One more of the

1584
01:42:40,440 --> 01:42:41,700
one more chemistry blogger.

1585
01:42:42,330 --> 01:42:45,060
I was waiting for the for the
the hat trick.

1586
01:42:45,810 --> 01:42:48,570
The trifecta says third of this
week greetings from chemistry

1587
01:42:48,570 --> 01:42:51,600
blogger to Dave Jones and AC and
anybody interested in artificial

1588
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:53,910
intelligence is welcome to
subscribe and listen to the

1589
01:42:53,940 --> 01:42:57,000
podcast called AI cooking that
can be found and

1590
01:42:57,180 --> 01:43:00,900
I love pod. I love comics for
bloggers been in my life longer

1591
01:43:00,900 --> 01:43:04,920
than you've been in my life. But
he always does this kind of

1592
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:08,400
stuff. It's like to just send us
10,000 SATs and we'll make a big

1593
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,160
deal out of your podcast and now
he's now it's just gonna be

1594
01:43:11,220 --> 01:43:15,840
three times we read the same
message. That's I understand

1595
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:18,000
that from an engineering
standpoint, that's how

1596
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:20,070
advertising works. Repeat the
message.

1597
01:43:21,540 --> 01:43:24,420
Long message to repeat that. I
think that works better on like

1598
01:43:24,420 --> 01:43:28,620
jingles. One 804 You know, like
cars for killing it works better

1599
01:43:28,620 --> 01:43:29,820
with a well the paragraph.

1600
01:43:30,390 --> 01:43:34,530
Right? So we appreciate it. I'm
just suggesting it's just a

1601
01:43:34,530 --> 01:43:36,810
creative note. Is this all it
is?

1602
01:43:37,230 --> 01:43:43,110
Search for a cooking yo yo and
monthly donors. That's our

1603
01:43:43,110 --> 01:43:46,890
booster greens monthly donors.
Charles current $5 Michael

1604
01:43:46,890 --> 01:43:53,250
Goggin $5 Sean McCune $20
Christopher Raymer $10 James

1605
01:43:53,250 --> 01:44:02,130
Sullivan $10 Do quotes $6.66
Dred Scott $15 drib the machine

1606
01:44:02,490 --> 01:44:10,410
Michael Kimmer $5.33 Leslie
Martin $2 Jeff Miller $20 Pedro

1607
01:44:10,410 --> 01:44:15,030
gone calvus $5 and Erin Renaud
$5 And that's our group. Thank

1608
01:44:15,030 --> 01:44:15,300
you.

1609
01:44:15,419 --> 01:44:19,019
Thank you very much monthly.
Very critical to the mission.

1610
01:44:19,499 --> 01:44:23,399
Yes, very critical. That ongoing
basis important. Yes, very

1611
01:44:23,399 --> 01:44:29,189
important. Thank you. Thank you
all value for value. At podcast

1612
01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:32,219
index.org You can find a big red
donate button at the bottom of

1613
01:44:32,219 --> 01:44:34,589
the page it'll take you to the
PayPal for the fee out fun

1614
01:44:34,589 --> 01:44:37,859
coupons. The booster grams are
working yo this is good. You

1615
01:44:37,859 --> 01:44:40,529
keep that size up. I'm liking
your size

1616
01:44:44,610 --> 01:44:45,630
that means hasn't heard that.

1617
01:44:45,930 --> 01:44:49,050
Yeah. And you know, I think I
can figure out this tally coin

1618
01:44:49,050 --> 01:44:51,840
QR code and I can just hand it
off to you. I know I know you're

1619
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:52,890
strapped for time.

1620
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:58,350
Next I've got plenty of time
today as I'm as I'm you know

1621
01:44:58,350 --> 01:44:59,490
flopping on the couch.

1622
01:45:01,650 --> 01:45:05,400
I all I want you to do is, is
get under the covers have some

1623
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:09,360
chicken soup, a little bit of
Scotch scotch.

1624
01:45:10,590 --> 01:45:14,400
Somebody else. Twitter said the
other day, I thought the cure

1625
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:18,420
for a cold was chicken soup in
bed rest and not communism.

1626
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:23,880
How have you seen the latest
this? Okay, just as let's do

1627
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:27,210
some political stuff. Dave, this
will be funny. Have you seen the

1628
01:45:27,210 --> 01:45:33,930
latest trend on Twitter? CDC
says? Yes. Larry, I this is this

1629
01:45:33,930 --> 01:45:37,800
is you know what's happened here
is people are all of a sudden

1630
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:41,940
the scales are falling from
their eyes. Yeah, a biblical

1631
01:45:41,940 --> 01:45:44,220
reference, I believe. And

1632
01:45:45,300 --> 01:45:48,720
they are freaking it when that
CDC dropped that thing from 10

1633
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:53,820
days to five days. It did the
Yeah, Twitter collectively lost

1634
01:45:53,820 --> 01:45:54,510
his MA.

1635
01:45:56,490 --> 01:46:00,450
CDC says Red Bull doesn't give
you wings. So go ahead and jump

1636
01:46:00,450 --> 01:46:02,880
off that bridge and does give
you wings and go ahead and jump

1637
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:06,990
off that bridge. CDC says you
can start at 69 bottles of beer

1638
01:46:06,990 --> 01:46:14,160
on the wall. That's funny. Let's
see. He says my CDC says go

1639
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:15,840
ahead and mess around with Jim

1640
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,400
The CDC recommends neither milk
nor lemon should be added to

1641
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:25,890
Earl Grey tea. CDC says

1642
01:46:25,890 --> 01:46:30,150
Just rub some dirt on it. I
mean, this is this is so funny.

1643
01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:33,240
This is this is where you this
is what it's like to lose

1644
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:34,590
control of the narrative.

1645
01:46:35,220 --> 01:46:36,240
Oh, yeah, it's

1646
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:44,250
it's out of control. It's Oh, I
heard it. I heard it. That was a

1647
01:46:44,490 --> 01:46:49,500
10 set boost. For no agenda.
From Dean Neil. Oops.

1648
01:46:49,530 --> 01:46:51,510
Well, you know what you're gonna
have to have you're gonna have

1649
01:46:51,510 --> 01:46:58,080
to filter. That's great. No, no,
no. A panel a screen in in the

1650
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:00,900
in the bunk in the bunker in the
podcast, but Scuse me?

1651
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:03,780
Do you want me to feel bad? Do
you want me to send you a

1652
01:47:03,780 --> 01:47:07,350
picture? Because I know Yeah,
sure. Remember, I'm not running

1653
01:47:07,350 --> 01:47:10,920
it on an anvil or pi. I'm
running it on a Surface Pro six.

1654
01:47:11,550 --> 01:47:11,910
Oh, so

1655
01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:13,650
it's in there? Oh, yeah.

1656
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:18,060
Oh, no, when the booster Graham
was. So I have. I have it loaded

1657
01:47:18,060 --> 01:47:21,990
now on the machine here in front
of me because I can just hit the

1658
01:47:21,990 --> 01:47:26,400
IP address. So I so so when it
hits here, and then it hits the

1659
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:31,080
sound board. I have one over by
so I have a big monitor like a

1660
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:35,850
huge, crazy thing. And I got the
Bitcoin chart. I've got my times

1661
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:40,200
and I actually have the
fediverse open, which is

1662
01:47:40,230 --> 01:47:47,370
basically flashing porn. Enemy
porn all day. And it's kind of

1663
01:47:47,370 --> 01:47:50,430
cool. I love that because it
refreshes automatically when

1664
01:47:50,430 --> 01:47:53,730
something new comes in. And
sometimes you catch a news item.

1665
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:57,780
Oh, that's interesting. And then
to the right of that is like my

1666
01:47:57,780 --> 01:48:00,450
scrolling news ticker. And then
to the right of that is the

1667
01:48:00,450 --> 01:48:04,440
Surface Pro six and right front
and center is the is heli pad.

1668
01:48:04,830 --> 01:48:06,030
Awesome. I'll make a picture.

1669
01:48:06,630 --> 01:48:09,630
Yeah, yeah, I want I want to see
the commandcentral.

1670
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:16,260
Yeah. CDC, CDC says you can put
pizza pineapple on pizza. Haha.

1671
01:48:16,260 --> 01:48:18,690
Good. I'm glad. I'm glad that's
finally settled.

1672
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,650
Breaking news, CDC announces is
now acceptable to talk about

1673
01:48:22,650 --> 01:48:28,770
fight club. I want to hear about
the test scam thing. They're

1674
01:48:28,770 --> 01:48:29,970
gonna put a new firmware.

1675
01:48:30,030 --> 01:48:34,830
Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I had a great
call with Did I talk about the

1676
01:48:34,830 --> 01:48:36,600
call I had with Tascam with
Japan?

1677
01:48:37,140 --> 01:48:39,210
Yeah, you told me about that.
But then you said they may be

1678
01:48:39,210 --> 01:48:42,360
doing like a firmware release,
and then maybe hardware? And

1679
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:43,050
yeah, so

1680
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:47,700
um, so William got back to me.
And he said, Adam, you know,

1681
01:48:47,850 --> 01:48:51,270
great news, we had a firmware
release. And, you know, there's

1682
01:48:51,270 --> 01:48:54,960
a couple things in here, I know
you like, which is now you can

1683
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:59,220
put the effects on all
microphones. Now, I had asked

1684
01:48:59,220 --> 01:49:01,980
not for all microphones, but for
all channels. So I'm not sure if

1685
01:49:01,980 --> 01:49:07,920
it'll also be on the USB. And he
says you can now also regulate

1686
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:12,210
gain on the USB channels, which
was a big problem. Of course, it

1687
01:49:12,210 --> 01:49:15,330
really needs to be processing.
He said, But all of this is just

1688
01:49:15,420 --> 01:49:20,220
stuff that was kind of semi
planned, he says for this coming

1689
01:49:20,220 --> 01:49:23,310
year, so I'm not quite sure what
it'll be called. But it'll be

1690
01:49:23,310 --> 01:49:28,500
it'll either be mixed cast fi or
mixed cast for Mark Two or

1691
01:49:28,500 --> 01:49:31,950
whatever. He says we intend to
fully implement everything you

1692
01:49:31,950 --> 01:49:32,640
suggested.

1693
01:49:33,480 --> 01:49:35,970
So that they get it, they get
it?

1694
01:49:36,390 --> 01:49:39,780
Well, it's all it's old
engineering guys. You know, they

1695
01:49:39,780 --> 01:49:44,040
get it and what is so impressive
about this company is that the

1696
01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:51,000
the head of product is, I would
say millennial woman who's super

1697
01:49:51,030 --> 01:49:55,530
sharp. She trust these guys. Now
she has an engineering

1698
01:49:55,530 --> 01:49:58,110
background. So she she knows
what she's talking about, but

1699
01:49:58,110 --> 01:50:03,150
she trusts their experience. One
of created, you know, old, a

1700
01:50:03,150 --> 01:50:07,890
couple of the old boss
stompboxes you know, these guys

1701
01:50:07,890 --> 01:50:12,480
go back they go back in, in
music and technology so and

1702
01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:18,540
she's very accepting of, of
their input. And you know, no

1703
01:50:18,540 --> 01:50:20,580
chip on the shoulder. They're
very impressive.

1704
01:50:21,660 --> 01:50:24,150
I like it. Yes, that's
encouraging this occurred.

1705
01:50:24,180 --> 01:50:29,340
I'm pumped about it. Now. This
is a long road. And it was kind

1706
01:50:29,340 --> 01:50:31,050
of interesting. Good. William
said, Hey, and then you know, we

1707
01:50:31,050 --> 01:50:34,380
can talk about and I'm like,
what I want is I want to have

1708
01:50:34,620 --> 01:50:38,280
the pod father signature
addition with you know, with

1709
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:42,900
platinum trim or some shit like
that. And I Okay, and he's,

1710
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:46,740
yeah, we can look at some cross
marketing opportunities. That's

1711
01:50:46,740 --> 01:50:51,720
no money. All right. Well, so
much for that. It doesn't

1712
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:54,450
matter. We'll get the box. I
just want the box. I really do.

1713
01:50:54,450 --> 01:50:54,810
But

1714
01:50:54,900 --> 01:50:58,530
so the bucks and then you have
to buy it with with lightning.

1715
01:50:58,890 --> 01:51:00,150
You have to buy with us.

1716
01:51:01,350 --> 01:51:02,670
Yeah, yeah.

1717
01:51:04,020 --> 01:51:06,840
So that's now says that Whitney
Houston does not want to dance

1718
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:09,960
with I could do this.

1719
01:51:11,220 --> 01:51:15,930
Believe me, the curry household
is doing it all morning. Oh,

1720
01:51:15,930 --> 01:51:18,960
look at this. And you have to be
at the other side of the room

1721
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:23,040
just laughing my what is it?
What does the CDC say? Alright,

1722
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,860
hey, this is the last show of
the year. Dave. It's been a it's

1723
01:51:25,860 --> 01:51:28,830
been a phenomenal year. Thank
you for your friendship. Thank

1724
01:51:28,830 --> 01:51:34,500
you for your partnership. Thank
you for your courage. And, and

1725
01:51:34,500 --> 01:51:37,620
your your your time, talent and
treasure because you're putting

1726
01:51:37,620 --> 01:51:40,350
it in just equally, if not more
than most.

1727
01:51:41,070 --> 01:51:44,760
Yeah, but it's been it's been a
joy. Man, it's been great doing

1728
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:47,970
this with with you for going on
two years now. And we're going

1729
01:51:48,030 --> 01:51:52,440
we're gonna pair a year and a
half and we get I mean, 2022 I

1730
01:51:52,440 --> 01:51:55,890
feel like things are gonna get
even more interesting. Like,

1731
01:51:57,000 --> 01:52:01,740
because we may my my plan is,
you know, at least in January is

1732
01:52:01,740 --> 01:52:05,280
to start working on the podcast
or wallet and wiring it up to to

1733
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:08,940
our Elon pay node and trying to
get trying to get some stuff go

1734
01:52:08,940 --> 01:52:10,470
and where people can just
onboard.

1735
01:52:10,530 --> 01:52:18,510
Yes. And also thank you to Eric,
Eric Mackey, who's more silent

1736
01:52:18,510 --> 01:52:22,050
than anything in the partnership
but he's he's keeping us honest,

1737
01:52:22,050 --> 01:52:26,910
keeping us in on track and a lot
of stuff that he's been thinking

1738
01:52:26,910 --> 01:52:30,450
about and working on will come
to bear in the with the wallet

1739
01:52:30,450 --> 01:52:35,460
side. Yeah, particularly for
reporting statistics,

1740
01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:38,040
extraction, etc, etc.

1741
01:52:38,459 --> 01:52:41,429
So usually I'll throw something
into the signal and into the

1742
01:52:41,429 --> 01:52:45,209
signal chat and then I know if
if Eric does not come back and

1743
01:52:45,209 --> 01:52:46,829
shoot it down immediately.
They're good to go.

1744
01:52:47,730 --> 01:52:53,130
Exactly. Okay, we made it Yeah,
perfect. All right, everybody.

1745
01:52:53,130 --> 01:52:56,940
Thank you all all members of the
board as well. For a fantastic

1746
01:52:56,940 --> 01:53:01,140
year. 2022 Who knew who the heck
knows but it's gonna be a fun

1747
01:53:01,140 --> 01:53:04,020
ride. It always is. And we'll
see you next week the first one

1748
01:53:04,020 --> 01:53:07,350
of the new year podcasts into
porno. Have a great weekend,

1749
01:53:07,350 --> 01:53:08,070
everybody take care?

1750
01:53:24,030 --> 01:53:30,750
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1751
01:53:30,750 --> 01:53:33,930
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