Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. It's time for episode number 107 of
your Gitmo nation audio publication coming to you from
New York. This is no agenda. At least my portion of the show is
Gitmo nation. MidCentral something like that from an
undisclosed hotel location. Hello, everybody. I'm Adam
curry.
And from the same old same old although it's a dreary day here
in Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. Raglan,
Buzzkill.
We're received in Germany as we speak. I'm excited. And it is
the morning. Yes, it's the morning here. It's still It's
quarter to 12. In New York Gitmo nation. What is Gitmo nation for
New York is that mid mid central kind of
get mo nation New York.
Thanks. Get my nation New York. Where I am have been actually I
was in Pennsylvania yesterday. Which man talk about Gitmo
nation,
about getting on nations? Eastern Seaboard
eastern seaboard. I like that, we'll keep it at that. And
actually going to in a new hotel that's only been open since
December 11. I don't mind giving out the name of it. It's 25
Cooper square Hotel, which is down near the Let me guess
it's a cooper square.
No, you are amazing. Mr. Devore. AK. Yeah, it's, it's one of
these boutique hotels. It's, it's nice. Well put together
although they do this annoying thing with these boutique
hotels, because you know, I got like two bags, right. I've got
my, my matching roller bags, one which is my kind of carry on
when it has the four wheels. So you can you don't have to schlep
it behind. You can kind of keep it to the side. And then a
larger version of that again with four wheels. And you know,
and Ron and I had been to Pennsylvania so we actually
drove and we had a rental car and we pull up in front of the
hotel. You got all these guys right at these boutique hotels
all dressed in black and the right to earpieces in. And, you
know, I was like, Can I take your bag? I'll just take my bag,
so you know, it's easier like they roll really easily. I'll
check in Oh, roll up to the same exact Okay, well wait, it gets
worse. No, no, it gets worse. So they have a special check in
procedure here. And like, okay, so eventually, the guy winds up
just taking my bag I'm holding on to my carry on was like,
Look, I'll just take it up myself. You don't need to carry
it into the hotel. You know, just please let me do because I
just want to get up to the room. I want to unpack my shit take a
shit. You know, just I want to do my stuff. Right? And they
have this Okay, would you like please sit down here and Mr.
Curry for checking like, Oh, Jesus. Would you like a
complimentary wine, spirits or water? I just give me the water.
And then you wait for 10 minutes and the guy comes back. Okay,
we're ready. Then one guy takes you up and shows you how the key
works. Oh, wow. It's like a proximity card. You know, I
could have figured that one out. And then you wait 20 minutes for
the other jabroni to come up with my frickin bag. It's like I
hate this.
Yeah, yeah. I I'm the exact same way. I come in. I travel light
anyway, so I got my roller bag, which is, you know, Samsonite
with the wheels, and and usually my computer bag hanging off of
it. And the guys always ask if you want to take your bag, take
your bags, no. And I always refuse and I never let them ever
again. Because actually what happened to me a few years ago,
I went to the Four Seasons down in Southern California is one of
them. I can't remember which one exactly. But I go in there and
they insist on taking the bag.
And you have to give up at a certain point because otherwise
fisticuffs will occur right?
Then it's just not that well, now I have this I have this
story to tell. And it goes like this. Well, I went to the four
seasons I went in, they took my bag and they lost my bag. Man.
So how do you lose your bag at the Four Seasons Hotel? It was
took me an hour to get the damn bag. Um, so I refuse to give my
bag up to anybody. I don't care who it is. And then the idea by
the way, the proxy, I was just in New York and I stayed at the
Rivington, which is or the hotel on Rivington, which is new.
It's on Rivington. It is,
and it's on the floor. It's in the weird part of New York,
which was kind of strange place. But it was the hotel was exactly
the same kind of hotel and also had a proximity card, which is
interesting. Because I have never been in most of the hotels
still have the slight, slight, slightly. So now they get these
and which by the way, these cards that have coded on them
besides just the room key opening device, it has a bunch
of your personal information on it, so don't lose those cards.
Oh, really? I didn't know Yeah, I found that out in a hacker
site.
What kind of information like your credit card number who
you are, you know, all the stuff that they key in for your room
when they get that's when they do the card after they you know
after? Right, right right, right. It's all this info.
Apparently there's a bunch of information on there. I don't
know I haven't been able to read one but maybe it's bull.
Hey, look. We hit you with this early dude, turn the speakers
John Dowd just a hair.
I asked you earlier and you said, No, that's
when I got excited and loud. And then I heard myself and that's
frightening.
So what do you think the audience thinks? So anyway, now,
here's the thing that bugs me about these places. They got the
same guy. Same, you know, these are all cookie cutter, they have
the big guys. And these are all started by the guy who ran the
studio for the seven wasn't even Prager, who did this. Yeah.
Well, he does. He's part of the team that was original,
and it was studio 54, not 57.
I know, you're Heinz. 57. They started Heinz 57. And they, the
first one I think, was like Morgan's. And then there's
another they did a bunch of these little
lifts in San Francisco. The Clift hotel, I think is a
schrager hotel. It might be now Yeah, And the grammar see? Yeah,
all of these hotels. Yeah. And they're dark. Oh, my God, what
is up with the dark in the hallways? Like you gotta you
gotta you need Braille everywhere to find out what your
frickin room numbers
so you get to your you get to your room. It's pitch black in
the hallways. I think it's a muggers, delight, but you miss
pitch black. And then so if you don't have your key handy, you
can't find it in your wallet. Because you can't see.
I'll do you one better. So this hotel doesn't have room numbers.
No, you have a floor number and then written out long form is
your room number. So I'm on Well, I'm on floor, whatever.
And then room number seven, you know, so what's your end? Yes,
exactly. What's your room number? Well, I'm on you know,
seven. It's like it's dumb. It's and what is what is this trying
to prove that we're hip?
Like yeah, your hip like in this in this late 80s Maybe so. So
the floors are pitch black and the you know, with some maybe
some mood lighting in some of these places, by the way have
room different room floors, that they're lit with different
colours, make it even more weird. And then the room itself
is used the underlit and it's extremely minimalist. Yeah.
You've been here before clearly, and many
of these, but the bathrooms are always a treat. Now here's my
favourite, my favourite bathroom. Now they designed
these bathrooms to be really minimalist and they put into
like the fancy as weird as kind of facilities. So in other words
that the bowl in that you wash your hands and the one I was at
the Rivington was a square.
Oh, I have a salad bowl this time. Like,
here's my favourite one went to one of these hotels that have
the big salad bowl. And so I go into and I turn the faucet on is
immediately overpressure ladders, goes down one side of
the bowl and soaks me
when so as I said, you know, the first thing I want to do, and I
had to wait 20 minutes is like, you know, I want to make a
conference call on the bathroom. Yeah, like I've been on the
road, you know, we've had shitty food and like, I want to sit
down. And then when you actually sit down, it's like, Dude, it
feels like I'm sitting in a jail cell. You know, we had like one
of those metal toilets. And that's all there is.
It's exactly what it feels. Where's the tin cup?
I'm paying, you know, hundreds of dollars for the privilege of
being in the big house. It's exactly what it's what it feels
like.
So these places are tired and affected. They're still putting
them with the same formula is beyond me this this formula is
20 years old. Come up with something new.
Yeah, for real. For real, for real. So thanks for taking care
of my girlfriend yesterday. I hear you guys actually had a
good time. I can't believe she's getting along with you.
Oh no, we get along famously when I'm not there when you're
in.
And she says she really likes the idea of you taking over her
Twitter account.
So yeah, I guess that ain't gonna happen. Now I had I had to
do it. So
but the one thing that's good about this hotel John, just to
get back to it. I'm sitting at the desk, which is about the
size of a school desk. It's really sparse and small, but
they have a an old fashioned bendy arm. desk lamp.
You know what I mean? Yeah, bendy arm. Yeah, with
with the springs in it, which of course is perfect as a
microphone stand.
Oh, well, he's got something out of the place. It's great. Yeah,
that's really good. Um,
the one thing I'll say about the Rivington or the hotel on
Rivington is that the bed was a down mattress though is
comfortable to sleep.
Yeah, the bed is good here too. They they, they do stay guided.
Everybody. Everybody I think picked up the bed thing. Because
when the first W Hotel opened in New York, which I went to when
it first opened the original
one, that's the one on Time Square.
Okay, I think so. Yeah. Or the one I don't know. There's two of
them now and the first one is due I can't remember where it
was. But anyway, the it was down, put down bed down pillows
down come quarters. I mean, it was like, Suzy hit the bed you
said Well, I think I'm just gonna stay here and I
slept 10 hours last night of course I took the red eye from
from San Francisco I flew Jet Blue. And something funny on the
way on the way over you know how you're always waiting for that
announcement? Is there a doctor on board or my favourite which
I've been waiting for my entire life? Is there a pilot onboard
Qi? I can't wait to hear that one. Now this time it was ladies
and gentlemen, we're sorry to disturb you. Does anyone on
board speak Chinese?
Ah, that's a different one. Yeah, there was some
Chinese woman who was in some form of distress I guess.
I've had the doctor announcement four times and I've had two
people die on a flight. So
this is a clue ladies and gentlemen don't fly on a flight
that divorce because you might die.
The real painful one was a guy drops dead coming out of China.
And we have to make an emergency landing in Narita. And Narita
Airport. Why?
Why an emergency landing if the dude is dead?
I don't know. I guess he was still made maybe just had a hard
time maybe wasn't dead. That's the point. Yes, I've been not
sure man. But no, I think they still got to get them off the
plane.
They just put him in the galley or put him there and put them
down on the hole, they got a little out of
room done and cold. So so they landed Narita. And the problem
with Narita is that it has a first of all the plane just
makes it out, you know, lands in arenas, but we're not, you know,
clearing the land. So a million cops surround the plane. And
with you know, RAM or the light spinning, and so then they make
the announcement in the reader has a curfew. And we can't take
off, we have to wait till the next day. And somehow, I don't
know that there was some but I don't know who did what. But
this was a United Flight, somebody did a deal because they
you know, the guy said, ladies, you have a bucket of seatbelts,
we're getting out of here. And it rolls this thing up and just
blasts
off just like we're out. We're gone. We're out of here,
you know, so much for the curfew.
So what we're talking about aviation, something that
happened on the 22nd. So and of course, we didn't become known
until the 23rd. But it's now pretty much mainstream news.
That the the clear programme. This is the programme that
allows you too, that enables you to give all of your personal
data, including biometric data to to this company, and you
would then be pre cleared to go through a separate security line
at most major airports has ceased operations. Yeah. Isn't
that unbelievable? No, it's
not really unbelievable. But it is like, whoa, you know, and
from what I understand the reason why is the TSA basically
shut it down. They didn't want it. They didn't they want to
know part of it. And they just stopped approving their devices,
because, you know, it turned basically into a concierge
service. You know, it wasn't it wasn't like really, you still
had to take your shoes off. You still had to go through the
detectors. You still get frist but it was like a special line,
essentially, like a faster line like, well, they
have the first class line in some airports.
Right. Which is better probably than what clear was, but yeah,
it's done. It's closed down in SFO when I was leaving for the
red I even had a little sign as of June 22 Clear has ceased to
operate and it's it's done.
Well, it was a fiasco. Yeah.
So much for that idea. Yeah.
So I wonder if there's anything else behind it other than that,
I mean, I thought the whole thing
we'd have to look into I think we should do a follow up but the
whole idea of of the of essentially a company having all
of your biometric data was kind of scary to start with and you
would think that the government will be quite happy to have that
but I guess not. And I was gonna say that the exact same bag with
the exact same contents that they opened up and ripped apart
for 30 minutes on my way to Los Angeles has happily gone through
security twice now without any bag check or anything. It's so
what was in it
that was triggering this this search? Well, you'd have a
bottle of water and there's no exact number
but this is the thing. So you know, I have transmitters,
wireless devices, MIDI devices, tonnes of wires, backup
batteries, all kinds of it's like a bomb waiting to happen,
you know, just add water and it will explode. Exactly that. And
you know, so the inconsistency that makes me that pisses me off
all the time. It's like why am I getting pulled out now? You
know, what's that bag checker? Who's that moron who sits behind
the monitor? And by the way, they are morons, I'm calling you
out. Was that just a lesser moron who saw something that
might you know, and also it's the way you put the bag in I'm
convinced. If you if you put the bag on its side I think then
they see more first I'm reason but yeah, well
because I see more. Yeah.
It's just so inconsistent. It's just, I just I look at all the
waste all these people there's 50 People at San Francisco
Airport working TSO, TSA alone, man, it's just Jeez Louise,
and they get here's another thing with the inconsistency you
run into tell me you haven't noticed this? If there are like
if the place is packed to the gills, they're trying to run
people through really fast, but it's the place like I go to
Seattle at a weird time once in a while. There's like nobody
there. So I'm like one guy. Yeah, exactly. And it goes
through and it's just protection already get through.
Yeah, I've seen that. And another one that gets me is
sometimes it's like you can you just you know, I You need three
bins, or two bins, I need one bin to put my laptop in I need
you know, then I put my bag on the belt. Then I have to take
off my shoes, my jacket, everything and I put that into
into a second bin. And all of a sudden there was this shoes has
to can be in a band shoes have to be on the belt by themselves.
Like I believe. Yeah, and kidding. Yeah. And that was in
San Francisco. When I went to LA the shoes have to be on the belt
by themselves shoes. And of course they they're all
foreigners. And they're barking and they're Oh, God. And then
actually one guy got in my face. On this trip over here. You have
the TSA agent, he stands right behind the metal detector and
waves you on and you have to wait, God forbid you just walk
on Oh, no, no, please step back, sir. Step back. Okay. And then I
walk through and because the guy is right, he's like three feet
in front of the other side. So, you know, I kind of like, turn
to the right and kind of make myself small and then my
shoulder hits the thing and it went off and he's like, don't
touch the sides. Sorry, go back. And like, well, you weren't like
in my space. You know, you were in my way. Oh, was I?
Yeah.
You know, it's like, you know, fucking Nazis. I just gotta say,
you're fucking Nazis. Okay. And I'm fucking hate you.
His name is Adam curry. Yes, Adam and
Eve yo.com. I am square hotel,
you can identify him when he comes to the line because he's
quite tall and blonde, and hot looking. I personally think
they're wonderful people. And I feel sorry for the job that they
have to do.
I don't know if they're wonderful people, but I do feel
sorry for the job they have to do. I think anyway, but I think
that people who are in jobs like that become not so wonderful
people, they become assholes.
Just because they have to deal with the public all day.
Hey, you're breaking up, dude. And it's not me. Okay.
Oh, we should have made sure to have said that at Comcast.
Comcast
cares, you know, I can't get Comcast in my new building. So
well, they say, oh, what Comcast doesn't service that building?
What the hell is that all about? They don't service that
building.
Oh, that's the set that's got something to do with the
building. It's got nothing to do with comp.
But you know, there were people there. People live there. They
have television, there's, you know, there's there's wires
coming out of the wall. You know, someone had some form of
television there previously, they
probably have a sweet deal with somebody else. And that's the
way it is. We'll say you should pitch to the building owner.
And I just like to follow up on the sentencing of Bernbach.
Bernard made off of course, the sentencing was supposed to
happen on June 16. That found out that got pushed back to June
29. And now today in the news, our we're going to wait another
90 days for sentencing. I guarantee you the international
financial court has to be set up and they will work on the
sentencing. This is exactly what I predicted. They cannot send it
to this guy because they don't know what he did wrong. They're
gonna come up with this whole cock and bull story where they
have to investigate it. And it's going to go to the if see, mark
my words. You heard it here on no agenda first.
Yeah, you're sticking with that story. And it's so far working
out for you. I don't think that's going to happen. But I
gave them very suspicious about this. Were they putting it off?
Again, they're putting it off because they don't know what
happened. How can you sentence a guy if you don't know what
happened? He pleaded guilty. And like, Okay, we'll Yeah, so we
know what's $50 billion. But what actually was the crime? I
did read on CNN have it here that his lawyer has asked for 12
years a sentence every 12 years? Because he classic? Yeah, I love
that. Yeah. Because his he hears it mister made offers currently
71 years old and has an approximate life expectancy of
13 years. So give the guy 12. You know, so we can like get
laid for the last year or something like that. I'm not
quite sure what that is.
Elk will also when you get 12 years, you only end up doing
five. Exactly, exactly. So he's got the money stashed away
somewhere because nobody knows where the money is, which maybe
part of the reason they're stalling on this though.
No, I can tell you where the money is. Switzerland now, no,
no, no, no, no, it's it probably went through Switzerland, but it
went to Israel and it's being used to kill people. Now it
could be and, and the funny thing about it is a lot of this
money or at least up to a certain amount from any of the
investors was insured. And that insurance came through a number
of vehicles. One is the FDIC. Another one is AIG who insured
tonnes of of transactions. And as you know, AIG was bailed out
by, by who? Oh, yeah, by us. So it's like a double whammy.
You know, I think a lot of people didn't have I don't think
a lot of those investments were not insured.
Some of the instruments certainly were.
So here's a news item. So I'm reading about this guy. Do you
know who the guy who do you know the name of the guy asking this
question in hopes that you don't because I figured, you know,
who? I think a lot of us are sceptical about things. Always
forget some of the prime movers. You know, who's the guy that the
father of global warming?
Oh, I think you sent me this in the show notes. Go ahead. I'll
pretend
James Hansen.
Is he a NASA guy was that
yeah, he's the NASA climatologist who made some
testimony in 1988 in front of Congress claiming manmade global
warming was taking place and we have to do something about it.
And then Gore became his pal and so did
okay, that part I didn't know he was actually the guy that that
inspired scam artist Gore to come up with his PowerPoint. Is
that how it worked?
Pretty much. Yeah. He's the inspiration. So anyway, so I'm
just reading through something right. And then I run into this
old posting from January which I don't know did I miss it? Or was
it to get no press? I didn't even blog it that I know. I
don't think maybe it maybe it's on the blog. I have to should go
look. But how his supervisor John Theon sent out this note
after I guess he's retired or he's not the supervisor. He
doesn't work at NASA anymore. And he says that Hansen was an
embarrassment to NASA. He was never muzzled, and he said, and
this guy, Theon says that all climate models are useless. And
let me just read a couple of things from the from the note
that was sent out. retired senior NASA atmospheric
scientist John Theon, the former supervisor of James Hansen. NASA
is vocal manmade global warming, feared soothsayer, has now
publicly declared himself a sceptic and declared that Hansen
Well, here's the reason I dug this happens because Hansen just
was in the news a couple of days ago, saying it's worse than I
thought. Were due to high and he's in he's targeted coal. So
he was arrested with Daryl Hannah up in, in West Virginia.
It's picketing some coal. Daryl Hannah, right. Yeah. And so he
was up there getting arrested with Daryl Hannah. Anyway, the
guy says, By the way,
if you gotta get arrested, it might as well be with her.
Yeah, get handcuffed to her. And he declared that Hanson
embarrassed NASA with his alarming climate claims and said
Hansen was never muzzled. Dion joins the rapidly growing ranks
funnel. But here's the one they the interesting quote is here.
First of all, he says he thinks he likes to join the group that
sets the sceptic this guy. He says, NASA scientist James
Hansen to create a world wide media frenzy with his dire
climate warning is calls for trials against those who dissent
against manmade global warming. He's one of the guys that thinks
anyone who says it like what I'm saying, now I should be
arrested. And it's claimed. And his claims that he was allegedly
muzzled by the Bush administration, despite doing
1400 on the job media interviews.
You know, you know, so it's, um, Nikki and I were talking about
this the other day about this whole 2012 and about, you know,
what's going to happen the end of the Mayan calendar. And, you
know, many people believe that this is going to be something
similar to the book of Revelation, we got the mark of
the beast, and we're all going to die, we're going to have
tsunamis and tidal waves. And I've really, and of course, I
totally believe that previously, I have revised my thinking
somewhat and I believe that what is going to happen is something
that is already taking place. So the idea is people who are have
higher vibrations will raise to a higher consciousness level,
which, of course you and I are already on, John, because we see
through all of this. Stay with me Now stay with me. Now. We see
through all of this bullshit, but I think that what is
actually going to take place is because the Earth is not going
to kill humans. Global warming is not going to kill humans,
humans kill humans. That's what happens all the time. And the
perfect Exam. Bull is swine flu, swine flu is a great example of
how a large amount of the population is completely being
beat down into submission into a state of fear. And in fact, you
will be injected with some crap that probably has the potential
to kill you if you know in combination with your french
fries, or whatever, whatever it is, that whatever, whatever, you
know, whatever the scheme is binary weapons, but it's really
that and this this whole global warming, you know, I think that
is really what, what, what 2012 was going to be about, and it's
not like on the day itself, you know, that on the 21st of
December 2012, the world ends, but but this is really what's
taking place and either you stand above it, and you see
through the bullshit and you don't stand in line to take the
shots, or or you you're into submission, and you wind up in a
freakin FEMA camp, you know, that I think is what all of this
is about. Let me give you. Let me give you a couple more.
That's a topic we're not going to use.
My was my rebuttal,
Monsanto. And, and, you know, we've got to stay on top of
Monsanto. And I want to thank Boy, I've already lost the email
I'll get back to in a second. This article was sent to me by
one of our producer slash listeners, and it's about the
weed whacking herbicide called Roundup. And I'm sure you've
heard of this. John is a
Ortigia. If you read if you watch the documentary,
it's actually in the world according to Monsanto
documentary. Yes. So let me just read a little bit. This is from
Scientific American, which I think is pretty good
publication. Used in yards, farms and parks throughout the
world. Roundup has long been a top selling weed killer, but now
researchers have found that one of roundups in eart ingredients
and that's the key word in ERT look it up can kill human cells,
particularly embryonic, placental and umbilical cord
cells. And so I guess I guess what happened is that the EPA,
the Environmental Protection Agency approves inert
ingredients, except they never really looked at. So most of the
studies focus on this on the safety so we're talking about
glyphosate. I think that's how you pronounce it. That's one of
these inert
Oh, I should buy my merch index I should have had it shouldn't
be at the ready. Do you have the merch index, but I had to run
downstairs to get it? We'll get it next time.
So what they've done typically is they focused only on the
inert ingredients themselves, but not on a mixture of
ingredients. So the mixture of ingredients and all them inert.
What does inert mean literally, like Dorman does,
it is not reactive, it's not chemically reactive, doesn't do
anything.
So this mixture actually amplifies the toxic effect on
human cells. In other words, this shit can kill you. And
there's remnants of this, because it's weed killer, right?
So it's used on shit that you put in your mouth. And if you
don't really wash it, and even maybe washing
well and healthy living, the thing that's interesting about
Roundup is that it was originally sold as an organic
product that was completely biodegradable. And then it turns
out, the movie discusses this, by the way, and I want to
mention that people, you can find the movie they haven't on
the Google on the Google videos, but they've changed the name
because apparently, every time it's crops up online, some buddy
somehow finds it and gets it removed. And so now what you
have to do to find it, I have a copy of it, I, by the way,
should download it, you know, so you have a copy of it, keep it
Yeah, and keep it and pass it around. And you can find it on
the Google videos but it's got like it they've checked they
what they've done that to trick people is to change the name. So
you have to do a search on Monsanto, then you'll find
something with some some obtuse name. That is not the world
according to Monsanto, but that's the movie that it's
actually in the envelope.
Do you still find it with with a keyword Monsanto? We have a new
we have a website coming. We have a producer working on it as
we speak. And this is exactly the kind of stuff that that
needs to be put in there. Right.
So anyway, we they determined that it's not biodegradable at
all, they had to take that moniker off the label and it
only degrades 5% a year. So the stuff just sticks around
forever. And it turns out to be they think, smiley carcinogenic,
too, so I decided not to use it ever. But they noticed that at
Costco, they're selling it by the gallon with a with a sprayer
really. So you can just buy this shit off the shelf. It's like
retail stuff.
Oh, yeah. No, it's always been reached. He's she's Louis, are
they selling it by the gallons and
just so you know, ladies and gentlemen producers list snap to
this programme. Monsanto is rampant throughout the Obama
administration. There are Monsanto people everywhere.
Everywhere they are so in. Now, one more thing watching CNBC
yesterday before I basically went into coma. You know, we've
noticed that there's a large amount of pharmaceutical based
advertising on television. In fact, if you turn if you if you
go away for a couple months and you don't look at American
television and you come back, you are amazed by the amount of
erectile dysfunction products, sleep deprivation products,
nervousness. Come on, John helped me out. There's, you
know, the bipolar, bipolar. I mean, there's so many products
and here's what because they basically the Restless
Leg Syndrome.
I've tried to read the restless Dick syndrome. Anyway. So the
report on CNBC was about the pharmaceutical industry. And
there's a couple of analysts and I forgotten who they were. And
they're saying the reason that what's going on right now is all
of the patents of the big big products are expiring. In fact,
you have something called Pay to delay, which these big
pharmaceuticals, you can read it right in their in their annual
reports, it's a line item pay to delay. They're paying generic
makers of drugs to not put their cheaper products out in the
market. Because that erodes whatever market share these
companies have, and they have not come up yet. With the new
killer product, you know, the new beta blocker drug or the
new, you know, whatever it is, and they are desperately they
are good, they are just desperate because this is
trillions of dollar business. They are desperate to find the
next you know, cash cow, enter swine flu, this is exactly why
this is taking place. If you look at the money being spent by
the US government alone, on companies developing vaccines
company of Baxter International, developing special processes for
creating vaccines quicker, it is in the hundreds of billions of
dollars. And this is and then go look at who's on the boards of
all of these companies. It is a humongous scam taking place
before your very eyes, please don't take the shots. Look at
what you know, the the HPV virus, the so called anti cancer
shots that are being shoved upon our kids. And soon you won't be
able to get your kids into school if they don't have the
MMR vaccines. It is just keeping these companies alive. It is
disgusting when you follow some of these lines, and we've got to
really pay attention to it.
So I'd lost my train of
thought. Yeah, because you're so amazed by my analysis.
Well, no, actually, that's not it at all. So let's go to one of
my clips. Okay, so let me just bring it into the story that
broke, kind of breaking as we speak. So last night at 10pm.
During primetime, ABC decided to work with the Obama
administration and do a one hour infomercial for the health care
initiative, health plan initiative. Now,
let me ask you a question. This is I'm not quite sure what is
going on the healthcare initiative means what?
The fact that they want to do well that I hate to say the term
but they want to create some sort of, well, I would not
socialised medicine, they want to do they want the government
wants to become a healthcare care insurer
insurance, right. Okay. So you will buy your healthcare
insurance from the government directly or indirectly through
your
employer, or will eat away or both. And they are of course,
competing with this entire system. They're complying with
the big insurance companies who, of course, are colluding with
the pharmaceutical companies who of course are colliding with the
doctors.
Yeah, the whole thing is a scam. Right? So the government decided
is going to have to do something about it. And he hasn't
convinced and Obama when he sat down in front of a kind of
another one of these fake town halls with questions that are
obviously rehearsed, with Charlie Gibson and
Charlie Gibson. He's on Good Morning, America. He was great
asking fluff questions of Britney Spears. But you know,
now he's like a super. He's like a journalist.
And he's there with Diane Sawyer, who's holding the mic.
She looks like a hostess. And guess what?
She is a host just
so she's holding the mic for the period that does audience which
they asked at the beginning, how many of them think that the
system is screwed up and needs to be changed? Everybody raised
their hands and how many don't and nobody raised their hands.
And it was kind of funny. But it there's a couple of interesting
little sides here that that I want to discuss. One is the fact
that they did this in the first place on on network TV. And then
by the way, they did it for the hour from 10 to 11. And then
they did it again. They did another half hour on Nightline,
oh my gosh, an hour and a half. And I'm thinking wiser than Ben
people were talking on the talk shows about this kind of a risk
for ABC. And first thing I'm thinking of those that they
bought that
that someone bought the time clearly. What were the what were
the I
guess here's what my thinking is? That I don't think they
bought the time. Disney. Yeah, it's cap cities, the cheapest
companies in the world. They they're the ones who changed the
Florida labour laws. So everybody who works at the
Disney World Park and people have to always remember this are
not employees. Oh, the guy, the guy who scrapes up the gum, and
everybody in between are, quote unquote, performers. Yes. The
labour laws for performers, actors and actresses is not the
same as people who work for a living. They're cast members,
they're cast members. And if you add on the doors of the all the
buildings, the hotels and everything else, it says Cast
Members Only it doesn't say employees only says Cast Members
Only they stick to this theory. Right. So
So Disney benefits from this new system from the is that
Disney will benefit from a government to health care
system. And it would then that's the reason they're behind it.
100% I think all these big corporations are sick, they're
sick of paying his health. I mean, the General Motors doesn't
want to pay this. They're probably behind it too. I mean,
this breaking the these companies who have to pay health
benefits.
Can I ask you a question as an entrepreneur or someone who's
had midsize companies with 700 employees to me Vo which is, you
know, somewhere around 60. If you look at everyone worldwide,
now, we have always provided health care, we see that as a
add not only not just health, but also dental benefits. What
what is the problem? Why do companies not want to provide
this as a part of a compensation package?
They've always wanted to, but the problem is, is that it's
increased. So they, it's always been budgeted a certain way. In
the end, in fact, it is doubled, has really kind of screwed up
the bottom line numbers for companies that have like 10 or
20,000 employees, it adds up
with 60 employees too, but yeah,
it'd be nice if it was cheaper. And in fact, my wife was
pointing out to me that our old pharmacist who was a interesting
character, you know, he's retired now, but he once told
her, you know, when I was a kid, we never had health. We ever
heard of health insurance? Nobody ever had health
insurance, just go to the doctor your pay, you know, wasn't that
much and then you know, and then you went you went home and you
know, went to the hospital your pay wasn't that expensive? And
it's gotten you know, so expensive, but that lot of it
hasn't he says once the insurance companies got into the
game, then it became kind of a How can we sold insurance
companies? And so you look at like, the one of the hospitals
locally was busted for, you know, if you went into this
hospital and you looked at the itemised account of you were
paying $10 when they gave you one Tylenol. Now what is the
Tylenol cost? 10 bucks at a hospital?
Well, it's specially packaged. So okay, so that does kind of
come back to the pharmaceutical industry then.
Yeah, the Well anyway, the whole thing is a mess. So, so they're
pushing hard. And I think Obama is actually going to pull this
off to be honest about it, which is because he's such a sweet
talker. It's unbelievable to watch him do these groups. He's,
you know, without the prompter, he's not as quick on his is fast
talker. He's good. But he's good. Now I want to play a
couple of and here's the thing that there's a couple of things
here, which is kind of not about the healthcare is more about
Obama. I got two clips. I want to play play the long clip
first. And this long clip is a South set it up. It's a woman
they're asking these supposed questions that are casually done
at this thing, even though well as well. This woman is asking
this long winded question. They're showing a package that
they've produced
to prepare a B roll. Yeah, a B roll of her and her mom and
so this is a woman who's supposed to be in a town hall.
She stands up and then they just happen to have an entire B roll
edited package of this very woman asking the question it
with her mom, etc. Yeah, I love it.
So, ladies, because the point I want to make is after the clip
ends, you'll see there's something that's that's I want
to make an observation for people to start paying attention
to. Okay, we
have with this a couple of people who really represents the
the opposite ends on the spectrum too. I want to talk if
I can to Jane Sturm your mother, Hazel, Hazel Homer 100 years old
and she wanted.
She's 105 now over 105 killed a bitch I bought at 100 The doctor
had said to her, I can't do anything more unless you have a
pacemaker. I said go for it. She said Go for it. But the
arrhythmia specialist said, No, it's too old. Her doctor said,
I'm going to make an appointment because the picture is worth
1000 words. And when the other Rithmatist specialist saw her,
saw her joy of life and so on, he said, I'm going for it. So
that was over five years ago, my question to you is outside the
medical criteria for prolonging life for somebody who is
elderly, is there any consideration that can be given
for a certain spirit a certain joy of living? Quality of life?
Or is it just a medical cutoff at a certain age?
Well, first of all, I
want to meet your mom that I want to find out what she's
eating
a bit, just not GMO products, and they know French fries.
So that's probably true. Now, the thing is that but when did
Obama become a stand up comic
dude, he is a fantastic performer. He's always been a
fan. He is an actor, you know, my stance on this, the guy is a
great actor stand up comic, he's fit. He's just he's it. He is
the man.
So he's doing these one liners. And by the way, the way he
answered that question was he thinks that he thinks that
spirit and joy and all this rest of this to subject to some
objective, y'all
PageMaker with them. So let's do let's do the, here's another.
Now I'm going to do a pet peeve piece, which is the one this not
really just about Obama. Oh, by the way, when he finished it
with this one later, Obama didn't says look. Look, here's
the deal. Listen,
let me be clear. Yeah.
So play the other clip that I said,
if a national health plan was approved, and your family
participated, and President Obama if your wife or your
daughter became seriously ill, and things were not going well,
and the plan physicians told you, they were doing everything
that reasonably could be done. And you sought out opinions from
some medical leaders and major centres and they said, there's
another option that you should should pursue
completely. The guy's even you can even hear him reading it in
his mind. But in the plan,
would you potentially sacrifice the health of your family for
the greater good of ensuring millions? Or would you do
everything you possibly could as a father and husband to get the
best health care and outcome for your family?
Well, first of all, Doctor, I think it's a terrific question.
There. I,
one of my great pet peeves is when you ask somebody a
question, they say, Oh, that's a great question. Yeah. It's never
a great question. What is a great question. Already
Questions? One? Great question.
A great question is the one you already have the answer to?
That's a great question.
It's a great question. I got the answer. I do not. You have no
idea how many times I've been in a situation where I've asked
somebody something in some public thing with a guest.
That's a great question. I'm always tempted to go. No, it's
not. It's it's a simple question. It's not a great
question. A great question might be asked by Socrates or
Aristotle. This is just a simple question. It's not a great
question.
John, I want you to know that I put you up there with Socrates
and Aristotle. I just want you to know that
well, then I would know if it was a great question. And it
wasn't my Don't ask what great questions I ask questions.
Speaking of,
of scripted, did you see the Michelle Obama teleprompter
flub? No, no, gosh, it was I saw it on again. I was on JetBlue.
So I was surfing all the channels. I think it was on
like, Greta Van Susteren. And so Michelle Obama is, you know,
talking somewhere doing something, you know, of course,
she's very important to society. And as you said, she's like, she
starts off her speech. And he says, and, you know, I would
really love if the teleprompter was just a little bit higher, so
I could actually read it, but since it isn't, I'll just read
from my notes.
God,
I mean, what a way to get out of it, man. Oh, my goodness. So
yeah, well, anyway, I wish people could really see what's
going on. This is it's so clear how it works. And it's okay. You
know, and I liked the president, he sets the tone of the morale
of the, of the happiness of the nation, and I think he's doing a
really crappy job. I think they should change the scripts a
little bit, make us a little bit happier. And you know, there's
nothing wrong with that. And of course, the smoking question,
I'm sure you heard that or blogged about that one. You
didn't hear this one either.
But I know it's played up in the Canadian newspapers a lot.
Oh, there was a it was there were supposed to be a rose
garden, press calm. rooms and I guess there's some bill that
he's passed or some law about cigarettes. I don't even know
what it was. But someone in the audience, or the one of the
journalists says, Well, you know, Mr. Obama, as a former
smoker, have you, you know, have you fallen off the waggon? And
Obama goes into this whole answer, like, well, you don't
really care about my law. You just want a great human interest
question. Well, yeah, that's exactly right. And he basically
stands there. And look, I've lied about my smoking cigarette
smoking before to people that I love, which in this case, the
people he loves should be the American public. And he went
through this long bullshit rigmarole of well, you know, I
am a former smoker and yes, sometimes I do fall off the
waggon. And, but I get right back on the horse and, you know,
essentially 95% of the time I'm a nonsmoker. The guy is smoking
just you're smoking dude. And you're frickin hooked on it. And
you know
what that job you think if anything is going to make him
take him back to smoking that will do it? Yeah.
Nothing wrong with it, man, but roll your own because at least
you're not smoking formaldehyde.
Yeah, this stuff's bad. So here's a story that
underreported news Do we have an under if we need an
underreported news jingle? No, I don't I mean, all I have is real
New Mexico expected. You know, they've already talked about how
Mexico is legalised essentially marijuana. And then a June 22
article, which is this week. Mexican cities will become Latin
Amsterdam's they say everything small amounts of marijuana,
cocaine, meth, amphetamine, heroin and other drugs are going
to be decriminalised
right arm that's how you end the drug problems right on Good on
you, Mexico.
So meanwhile, while we're on the legalising drugs thing, a law
enforcement group is backing legalising drugs new billboard
off a busy street in Oklahoma City's advertising the
legalisation of drugs is groupco Law Enforcement Against
Prohibition and there's supposed to be 10,000 You know, cops or
ex cops or people in law enforcement. Although these guys
who are against it Mark Woodward with the Oklahoma Bureau of
Narcotics not only disagrees with their message, but also
those behind it. It's giving parents and kids the impression
that the police support legalising drugs. That's not the
truth. Woodward said any real police officer could not support
legalising drugs. Really?
What? Why not
sticking out what they legalise TB out of a job. Maybe there's a
reason that there's a real interest in that statement.
Speaking of drugs, the legal kind of drugs which of course
are far worse than the ones you just mentioned. Joel, who was
one of our listeners, he actually does the life in Ohio
podcast sent us a note I don't know if you if you got this one,
too. He said it was about Ambien CR, which we were talking about
on the last right. He says I was in what they call the titration
study. The second sleep study they do if you're diagnosed with
obstructive sleep apnea, which I indeed do have it this morning.
Yeah. Is that snoring? Obstructive sleep apnea? Yeah,
in this study and the previous study, they wire you up EEG EKG,
pulse oximeter on your finger. And if you're in the first study
of sensor to detect when you stop breathing, which are
plastic hooks sticking up your nose, and the second one is your
CPAP mask. What does that it's like an oxygen mask or something
that I know all of which looks pretty Byzantine, because of all
the crap on my body. I could just not get to sleep. I slept
and got enough data for them. In the first study that record that
data plus a video of you sleeping to look for restless
leg syndrome so they can give you meds for that. But in the
second study, they gave me a dose of Ambien CR I slept
better, but still not great. But the strangest thing happened to
me while on the drug. I was just laying there and it felt like I
could not move and my eyes were open and I didn't feel like I
was asleep. But I was all of a sudden asleep tech called in and
told me it was morning. I remembered nothing but laying in
the bed did not feel the passing of time at all. It was the
strangest experience I've ever had stay away from M B and C are
far away. It is bad shit. Joel, thank you for your for your
personal story there. I mean, I'm thinking that sounds like an
awesome drug Man that sounds like special.
Using especially if somebody's in that state then you can like
brainwashed them.
Oh, totally. Who knows? You know, he could be programmed to
kill me now. Jeez.
So you get the real news theme.
Don't I always I'm actually gonna put that on a different
button so I can fire it faster. And now back to real.
So Craig Newmark, the runner of Craigslist now. He defends the
website dodges reporters. He was giving a speech and BC refused
to do a press conference. He says he's keeping all he's
keeping all the hookers. He's gonna let him keep posting on
Craigslist. He doesn't care. He thinks it's bogus. I'm thinking
what a what a promotional scheme. This has got to be Yeah,
you want to find Joe hooker go to Craigslist, there's his his
his numbers must have gone through the roof
but that's what Craigslist is for. It's for two things. It's
for finding apartments and for finding hookers. I mean, I don't
understand what's the problem. It's a good service and you can
also there's, there's someone has typed it into Twitter. It's
trying to see if I can find more. I've heard this
in some atempo hooker posts. I think it goes, yeah, it goes.
You can it's like erotic London or erotic underscore, London,
the London hooker. London hookers. Yeah, when someone
posts on Craigslist, then you get a tweet about what hookers
are available. And you know, and most of the Craigslist hookers,
it's all like, I'm in town tonight, you know, available for
tonight only a you know, and it's a business. I'm talking
about
a weird business. It turns out that in Rhode Island because of
some really screwball way, they wrote the law. And now they're
totally panicked about it. Prostitution is actually legal.
If it's indoors.
It just in Rhode Island or
not, the Rhode Island is some state law. They did Sunday,
somebody screwed up with writing the law. And so now they're
scrambling to make it illegal. It turns out that if you're a
call girl or somebody, you know, you don't really go out and walk
the streets. It's totally legal.
Well, excellent. Good on your Rhode Island. You have a few
days left good on the air really.
And we haven't really talked about the funniest thing, you
know. And this happened, I guess, last week, where they're
now talking about starting a new regulatory body, a new
regulatory agency that will essentially watch the banks
because, of course, you know, we didn't have enough regulation.
And that's why we're in all the trouble that we are in the
financial crisis. And they and even President Obama endorses
the idea of the Federal Reserve, being the body that is supposed
to have oversight over the banks. Now, please. The Federal
Reserve is as governmental as Federal Express. It does not it
is not a faith. It is not a federal agency. In fact, the
Federal Reserve consists of banks. So now they're actually
advocating and every single business publication is all over
this. It's great. Oh, yeah, the Fed they're the right guys to
watch the banks, which means they're going to be watching
themselves is so freakin wrong.
And you're stunned by this.
I am stunned by the lack of reporting in Wall The Wall
Street Journal. Now of course, now that's owned by Murdoch
doesn't surprise me. But you know, where's the New York Times
on this? You know, where's Where is there?
They're all on board. Yeah. So, you want to play a mystery clip
and then we can go from there? Because we're almost out of time
and we still have religious people. Give us a donation.
Where are
we on time? Let me see where we're at. How do you know we're
out of time? No with shit. We are almost out of time. Oh, it's
been too much fun. Time flies when you're having fun.
How do I know we're out of time? Because when you're on Skype,
it's got a clock on it telling you how long you've been
talking.
Which one I can give you Greg laughs Obama stand up plastic
brain scary. Or Tony Hawk. Let's go with Tony Hawk. Okay, Tony
Hawk. Skateboarding dude. Right. Okay, now
let me tell you that law tell you that. Let me set it up. I
think this is a setup. This is when I was bitching about ABC
News being shallow. This is one of their reports.
Tony Hawk from ABC News,
skateboarder Tony Hawk made a little history before joining
Obama's conference. pictures posted on his website show Hawk
riding a skateboard down the marble halls of the old
executive office building. He also snuck a ride in the White
House. Hawk says he was answering a dare from his friend
the actor Ashton Kutcher.
There you go. That's that's important news.
The news today of course, front page of The New York Times is
the senator who had an affair. Wow. Gee Whiz. That's the
headline.
Yeah, it's saying that it's like that. That's ridiculous. We've
gotten pretty close. Once again to the the true bullshit of of
how the world works. We've talked about Monsanto, we've
talked about the financial system. We've talked about Tony
Hawk, Tony Hawk. The night we've talked about the non conviction
of Bernard Madoff. This is usually the point where I would
say I believe in aliens they will come to save us so that the
government doesn't reach out and and put too in my head and you
know, The gun in my left hand. Instead, I think perhaps we
should ask people to send us some money because, you know,
we're now actually in danger with the type of stuff and the
type of real news that we provide on the phone. Right,
John?
I like to paranoia. I think that we're, you know, because we're
podcasters essentially, yeah, we're, we're just marginalised.
Nobody takes us seriously anyway. And that's what, and we
definitely need some donations. Because we do, it's actually
dried up. And so go to divorce.org/na. And I'll have
the new page up today, which will have some other plans on
it, besides the ones that are listed so far, done, divorced
that org slash in a and I'll send you a copy of that HTML
file that you can put on the agenda library. So
yes, and we've I've received a couple of different emails from
people saying, you know, we really I really don't mind
sending your money but perhaps you should, like tell us what
you spend it on. And it's okay I'm gonna spend on anything so
far. That's the problem. You know, people say hey, let's
spend it on the no agenda jump jet. That's fine. You know, just
just spend it on something.
We could put it into a fun for for jets. No,
I'd like to pay my rent with it. If you don't mind. That's what
I was thinking. What we need to do is we need to buy the
bandwidth of the connection of rant Yeah, that's what what it's
gonna get spent on eventually
it really will get spent on on stuff that we privately pay for
at the end of the day, you know, rent, Comcast bandwidth.
Batteries. Oh, man, I go through so many batteries on the show.
Also, dinner speakers, we haven't been reporting on too
many restaurants of late.
Do you think? Can we do a dinner this coming week? Is that are
you around? Because I'm around?
I should be around. Now.
Do we dare take Mickey or should just be you and I because I
don't want to get well Mickey.
You know, it hasn't. I mean, I want to you know, I would like
but the problem is it always deteriorates. Yes, it does. Now,
here's the here's the thing that happened. I was actually hanging
out at Rosie O'Grady's after I did cranky geeks with Mickey and
Mollywood. Oh, man, you had the babes. And yeah, both tall
blondes and I'm sitting there. And then this it was the same
kind of thing as the as the dynamic started to change. And I
would start to you know, argue with Mickey about something. I
mean, Molly would take Mickey side as opposed that she was the
girls beating up the guy went in with the guys with the girl. So
it's like, you know, it's probably we probably should put
it off. We should skip one. You know, I mean,
I think you and
I should just go shopping with Molly
Yeah, yeah. And that's what we're gonna use your donations
for. So it's, it's a, it's a good use of your funds. Now, but
seriously, this is an audience supported programme. We and may
I just point out that we really bend ourselves into all kinds
of, of, of shapes and, and really work on making this a
regular, you know, twice a week. So far scheduled programme. Here
we are pretty much I'm in New York, in between meetings, I've
got 15 minutes to prepare for the next conference call. Sunday
morning, we're both going to be getting up early, our otherwise
free Sunday morning. And we do it because we really love doing
the show. But we need to be compensated for our time. And
and that's a great way for you to participate to the show can
continue. And who knows maybe one day we'll actually go to
three Shows a week now that we seem to be keeping it down to
about an hour, which I think is a much better, much better
timeframe in general for the programme.
Yeah, because we still have stuff left over, we can carry
over like the Tony Hawk thing was actually from last last show
should have been on the last show. But the point is, is that,
you know, I people, I know a lot of people listen to the show and
really like it. So show your appreciation, because we're not
we, you know, we're not going to do advertisements, or we're not
going to you know, be underwritten. It's like we have,
you know, unless we obviously can't get enough people
that'll mess up the show because that'll that'll ruin it.
I don't want I don't want to
make money rather than begging for appetisers and
I was gonna make another point about that, but yeah, I don't
know.
He doesn't know.
I really don't. I
just don't know. Why don't you play one more last mystery clip
and then we're out of here. Okay, Obama's not
too long. How about a short one? The short one Greg. laughs is
the short one, I think. Oh, we're snare Chairman That was
scary. Scary.
I don't know what that is. Is played passengers aboard a
transit that line. Oh, we did this one already.
Oh, really? I'm sorry.
Erase that one. That's the one where the woman says oh, I was
so scary. And if she didn't know anyone you
don't. Okay, hold on. We did play that one. I apologise me.
You're right.
The rest of wings. Yeah. Okay. Oh, God did give some better.
Obama stand up. I mean, yeah, hit it.
So now on top of the cost of health care and energy and the
recovery plan. We've got another fiscal problem. Fortunately, the
lawyer has told me that Hillary is ready to settle. That's a
good one. I have to admit though. It wasn't easy coming up
with fresh material for this dinner. A few nights ago, I was
up tossing and turning, trying to figure out exactly what to
say.
You can hear him launch into the line, can't you? You can hear
him launch into it. That's awesome. That guy delivers.
Finally, when I couldn't get back to sleep, I rolled over and
ask Brian Williams what he thought
so far,
that's enough. That's good.
I like that very
much. What do you know? Where's that from? Do you know
that was a another you know, wasn't that major? Did you know
the network? It was another one he did a couple of weeks later,
which was a correspondents dinner, which you had like the
real working press at it. Is that the white tie dinner? No,
no, this was no this was a more casual one. This was this was
different. This one had us all that normal schlubs
wealth, my friends. We do have an actor as president, and I'm
quite proud of it. I just wish that someone else was writing
the scripts, but that's a whole different story. Remember, we
had Ronald Reagan, a true actor. We have Arnold Schwarzenegger.
He can't be president legally. But he's a great politician
because he's a fantastic actor. And that's what makes this
country great and I am quite proud of it. We just need
different script writers fire the writers. That's what it is.
Don't impeach the president fire the writers. There you go.
Coming to you from Gitmo nation eastern seaboard in a disclosed
hotel location with the bendy lamp microphone stand. I'm Adam
curry.
And in a blustery northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C.
Dvorak. We
will talk to you again this coming Sunday right here on no
agenda.