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regardless of the weather, rain,
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once a week, you're guaranteed
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want. And it's not scheduled.
It's no, it's no agenda. Can you

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tell I'm jet lagged from the
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Kingdom. I'm Adam curry.

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And I'm John C. Dvorak up here
in what's going to be a hot, hot

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day in Northern California. And
it is Sunday. We are a day late.

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Adam was on a plane and sounds
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Thank you. Actually, it was nice
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Thursday, Thursday afternoon,
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was absolutely beautiful. I
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town, but they got some weather
man, let me tell you.

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Well, you know, if you really
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California at San Diego, and I
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it'd be Los Angeles. Actually.

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I've only been to conferences in
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given me a very skewed skewed
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Yeah, well, it's not as you
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by any means. But

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yeah, man, LA is so full of
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Ah, but it was fun. We had a
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Please sit for the traffic.

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Well, let me think we were up.
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breakfast meeting at 730. And I
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said, Dude, where is everybody
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through Beverly Hills at 730 in
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Yeah, give them a few hours. And
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Hey, it was oh, I just want I
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want to start off or something?
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no, go ahead. And I've got a
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been. You know, hey, by the way,
you know, so I got on Twitter.

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Yeah. How many you got now you
pass 10,000 on followers?

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Yeah, I'm at 10,002 70. Or
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Unbelievable. Not bad for you.
Like somebody pointed out? I've

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only been on for 20 days, dude.

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I don't know. I don't even have
5000. I'll get you some more.

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Yeah, could you please can you
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bit? I need more more fans, more
followers? Is that how it works?

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Now, you know, the thing is not
the number of followers five,

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like I'm an expert. Now. It's
not the number of followers.

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It's the quality of the
followers. Yes. I have to say

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though my 10,000 are high
quality?

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Of course they are of course
that goes without saying but no,

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you're right. And we've had this
conversation last week, you want

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to have people who are gonna
take your information and do

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something with it. Hopefully
propagated further.

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Well, that or give you stuff you
need to know about. I mean, I

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query the group every once in a
while for stuff. In fact, I'm

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going to put out a, I need to
find if I put this on the on the

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Twitter, I need to find the best
programme that's out there, the

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shareware open source or
whatever that takes a DVD, and

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then turns into a viewable file
on your laptop without you know,

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in other words, I want to move
my DVDs to a laptop, right for a

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trip for a trip. But I don't
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Well, there's I know in the Mac,
there's lots of there's lots of

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programmes that will do that.

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Yeah, there's a bunch on the PC
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that I like, right? They either
screw up or they give you the

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wrong and the files fix weird or
bad. And I just started looking

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for this yesterday. So give it a
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because I had to do this the
other day on the Mac. It's

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called fast DVD copy is the
programme I use and it was fast.

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I was like, boom, you know, just
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a copy or just spin out a file
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Hey, I watched the you gave me
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empty.

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Can kidding? No. It

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was it could kept coming up as

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what was what was it? What did
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some What did it say? I mean,
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I'm getting it. I'm getting the
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one that was good was indie
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Okay, I know. There was a couple
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The Indie Spirit Awards was kind
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I thought you get a kick out of
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kind of amused by the fact that
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the way the Academy Awards were
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whenever it was

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cool. It was laid back and
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right? He had all the
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like because it seemed like a
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little more profane, which is
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on Yeah, absolutely. The other
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Carlye. Right,

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right. That's yeah, there's two
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let's look George Carlin's
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is a brand new from George
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that's brand new just came out?
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it was two years ago. And that
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No, I understand. But did you
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big comeback thing?

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Yeah, I've seen all of them.
This one's better because he

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felt off to me. His timing
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was like he was sick or
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kind of, he's superseded that
he's gone beyond that. That one

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you saw, and now he's actually
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live only guy. You know, he's
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like very, very funny. That's

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hyper curmudgeon. I know, I read
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agenda, curry. And the
curmudgeon.

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Yeah, and people like to word
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it. So I alliteration. Bring
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because I want to see what would
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wrong. Okay. So here's, here's
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it's something that probably
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but I'm just too tired to deal
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comments. And you know, whenever
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controversial, it's just too
tiring. So I just want to say it

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here to pod show change his name
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general, the change will you
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people like okay, we get it
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understand where the names
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the most common is what the fuck
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guys so stupid? You couldn't
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evil and always say that? Well,
yeah. But I just wanted to say,

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because we did go through a
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the web 2.0 conundrum, if you
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names. I mean, really, really
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Unfortunately, the domain names
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mean, there were some we had
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like, Mojo was one. I liked that
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Dude, people were asking for
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domain name, and really a non
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they just wouldn't give it up
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Cali Lewis and I callie.com. In
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you mean the one where she says
I'm still a podcaster? Yeah. And

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I didn't like that post, because
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feel like it because if that was
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I also had a post on my blog,
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read yours. Yeah, crack down.
No, I like that. I like that.

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But there's a misconception. You
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of meme running around people
saying, well, the video that Ron

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did, yeah. Okay, so you've seen
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Now, you know, I just over it.
I, you know, I saw what I saw.

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the next thing. But no, I didn't
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it was just something. Well,
that was something else it was,

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you know, Ron said, you know,
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user generated content I filled
in a lot of people are like,

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well, you know, what are we
doing then? And what a slap in

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the face of independent
producers everywhere and

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podcasters? And it's like, oh,
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Am I wrong? Or is that? Is that
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basically everything that's on
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and social networking sites?
Isn't that more the definition

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of user content?

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Yeah, it is to me, but I think
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presented, it sounds as you
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doing here, which is
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agenda show is, by a broad
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Yeah. By the way, let's take a
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movie, by all, you know, by a
broad definition, it's user

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generated. I mean, somebody
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Yeah. So but no, I think what
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term. inside baseball people
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that are in the business as it
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content. No, no, what I'm saying
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generated means YouTube one shot
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or MySpace stuff, viral stuff on
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that also is, whatever it is.
That's user generated in my

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Or just your pictures on Flickr.
But yeah, but so ya know, that

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it's a it's a it's a lousy word.
It's a lousy term. I mean, it's,

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it's not very descriptive. It's
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too broad. And so and so and Ron
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know, the next thing you know,
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the best comment, the best
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So came back. And we had we have
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have a very English garden. It's
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woman who grew up grew up in
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in the late 20s. And so she grew
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the garden. And now she's a
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garden is really, really
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we have a pond, which is a man
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it's, it's maybe it's oblong, so
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feet, something like that, maybe
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that size. And two ducks have
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now we're living in the pond,
which is great. You know,

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because I'm sure they're gonna
they're brooding so it's a male

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and a female. And we've had
property before where birds and

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ducks would come to roost,
nowhere to breed, to breed or to

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brood, whatever the hell it is
to lay eggs. But I was looking

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in the, in the pond, and there's
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five inch fish that has
appeared. And it looks really

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weird. It has a whole bunch of
like fins. I'm trying to get a

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picture of it. But you know, the
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the, to the surface, you know,
and I'm there with a camera it

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pops back down. But like, how is
this evolution at play? Or how

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does a fish all of a sudden show
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I mean, how did that happen? I
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not. I'm not. I'm not sure what
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maybe your gardener through the
fishing or somebody who knows

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maybe there was a fish egg that
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That's what I'm trying to figure
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strange to us. And Patricia
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by and dropped it. That sounds
ridiculous. It's possible. Maybe

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a bird ingested something and
pooped out an egg. Is that

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possible? Do

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you think? No, I that seems
unlikely. But I think the bird

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could have dropped it. Well, I'm
gonna I got a bunch of, you

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know, predatory birds around my
house you there's a bunch of

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hawks and, and everyone's Well,
one of them is carrying

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something that's a little too
big of a load and it drops it

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drops it Yeah, but it's a it's a
forage fish. It's just like it

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appeared out of nowhere.
Alright, man.

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Well, you should throw some fish
in there.

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Yeah, it's not really meant to
be the fish pie. We've had that.

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It's No, I don't like fish. I'm
not into fish. Not big on fish.

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No, unless I'm eat at it. Unless
it's on my plate. So we're

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talking about food. We missed it
again. I'm sorry. I apologise.

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For bummed

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people liked us. I don't want to
get back. I don't want to make

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it. I just want to thank John
Arnold, who's a who does photo

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walkthrough.com He's a British

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photographer. He has a show on
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he sent me a care package from
England with some tees in it.

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Oh, nice. Finally, somebody. And
if anybody sent was he got some

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some British twine, some British
Tetley, some, some Yorkshire

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that's in a different package. I
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you know, like the Twinings we
get the United States is packed

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in North Carolina or someplace
like that. You'll always find it

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on there. You have to even look
carefully and you'll see it and

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it's never as good as seem
stale. But the stuff from

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England is very good. But so he
sent me a big giant box of

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Twinings. I've never seen this
tea before, and he says what he

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drinks instead of PG Tips, which
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day. Oh, I've

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seen that Twinings. I've

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never seen it, I guess, having
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often. But it's, anyway says
Twinings every day and I guess

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it's obviously meant to be a
competitor with you know, the

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tetley's and the PG Tips and
whatever else is every day. So I

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was actually going to do a taste
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actually pretty good at
somewhere in between. It

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actually tastes somewhat in
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the PG Tips gold. It's a little
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smooth. It's actually not bad.

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I'll pick some up tomorrow.

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You check it out. See what you
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I'd certainly well I did have
dinner at koi in Los Angeles.

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You familiar with that
restaurant? Yeah, that was damn

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good man. They had a cod. It was
like a slab of cod. With with

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the skin still on it and it was
kind of in this sweet like this

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kind of sweet sticky sauce that
was over it and the cod slice

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chunk if you will, was laid over
a bed of rice. It was it was

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like addictive man. It was
awesome. You familiar with that

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dish.

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Never been there. You've never
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much. I mean, you know

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you're right. And so I'm sitting
there and then someone walks up

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to the table Excuse me Is your
name David? At cuz like, Well,

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is there any benefit if I just
know my friends had you just

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look like David that? The
stylist?

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David this hairstylist?

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Do you know him? You know David
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I don't. But I could just see
somebody seeing your hairstyles

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have any hair.

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Oh man, Los Angeles, I tell you.
What a town.

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Yeah, it's a it's an interesting
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vapid, in a lot of different
ways. But it did. It has its

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moments very entertaining, if
you want to just kind of lose

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yourself in a, you know, brain
dead shallow environment.

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Well, the what's been
interesting is, of course, now,

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you know, the business in
general, I think is in so much

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turmoil. You know, there's and
there's lots of consolidations

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and shit going on. Because these
studios, you know, the finance

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for a movie, it comes from, like
hedge funds, you know, and, and

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have you ever read the kid stays
in the movie, The Robert Evans,

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autobiography? No, but I've
heard about it. Okay. Well,

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don't read the book, get the
audio book, because Robert Evans

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reads it himself. It is. That
wouldn't be the intonation.

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That's great. And he has a great
voice. Robert Evans is the guy

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who produced the love story, The
Godfather. He, he was married to

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Ali McGraw. I mean, it's a
fantastic story about Hollywood.

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And the guy, you know, made a
lot of money, lost a lot of

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money. And he's still around.
He's not rich by any means. But

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he's still a Hollywood icon. And
in that, in that book, I

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listened to the audiobook
version. You know, he goes

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meticulously how these how these
la The Godfather was financed,

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you know, and this was like the
days of golf and Western, you

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know, big industrial, like the
jerk, the old German guy would

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cough up the money, you know.
And so this is a town in

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trouble, because money's kind of
scarce right now. And so there's

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less projects, there's less less
stuff getting greenlit as they

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say, and everyone's talking
about the web and the internet

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and, you know, and they have all
these little buzz stories now

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and even though no one's ever
seen it, I'm sure they're, they

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just copycatting what people are
saying about projects like

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quarter life I don't know if you
followed any of that. But all

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these failed projects and but
that's just also full of shit

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John, they really no,

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they're they're totally full of
crap down there. That's for

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sure. Yeah, just some you can
get used to though. You know,

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now what you say is is kind of
interesting, but it's kind of

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contradicts what's actually in
some ways it's going on which is

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discussed in great detail on
shootout, which is a show I

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recommend people watch if
they're interested at all in the

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actually the business side of
Hollywood, which is hosted by

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Peter Guber. And Peter Barton
goober is of course, a famous

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producer and also a professor at
UCLA find this shoot up. It's on

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AMC, and, and the cable channel
and then Peter Bart is editor in

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chief of variety and they have
all these guys on that are

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amazing. And but my but let me
preface it by mentioning the

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last time they had Coppola on
where he's complimenting Evans.

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And then as an aside, he says,
but he's an incredible liar.

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Oh, but in the book, they hated
each other. Because Coppola

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wouldn't deliver the movie and
he wouldn't deliver a movie

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under six hours. So they
literally took the the

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incredible liar part comes in.
But anyway, but the Coppola

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anecdote that he brings up,
which is that with Godfather two

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or godfather, three things,
Godfather two, he suggests

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bringing in another director.
And he suggested Martin Scorsese

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sassy. And and Evans hates, and
no way this guy's a loser, it

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goes on and on, and never make
it. Never make it in this town.

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But anyway, what they what they
say, though, is not that there's

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a bunch of stuff that's, you
know, dying on the vine, but

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they're, they they two of them
both say that in Hollywood right

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now, they're actually over
producing. There's way too many

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movies being cranked out that
are junk, and, you know, from

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Canada and everyplace else, and
that the companies that are

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doing all these movies, these,
you know, all the people that

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own all the studios now are all
these big companies like General

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Electric, or, you know, Viacom,
and they don't really have any

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interest in the business. And so
everything to them is a, you

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know, kind of a bottom line
item. And it's just the business

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is just a mess.

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Well, so I think that what's
happening is, up until probably

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a year ago, or maybe two years
ago, there was a thriving DVD

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retail market, not just for
blockbusters or movies that had

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hit the cinemas, but there was
an actual market where you could

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produce a movie and it could,
you know, could be maybe a $5

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million movie or a $10 million
movie and you could you could

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make money by sending it
straight to DVD. And that retail

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market of DVD has melted, it's
gone. So these are probably

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projects that were funded, you
know, 12 to 24 months ago and

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now the there's no outlet for
Lorem and yeah, it is, there's

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is disarray for sure. And that
they all want to go online, they

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all want to do something and
they all want their money up

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front, which is not going to
happen.

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Yeah, in fact, one of the things
I've noticed in it as a trend

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I've been watching the show for
a long time is that there are

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more and more of these movies
that that become successful. And

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they're actually really good
movies like Little Miss

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Sunshine, for example. They
bring these different people on

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from the show. And they, each of
them says, you know, I did this,

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I did the sun, talking about big
time actors and directors are

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specker on scales back, they
didn't do anything, basically

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worked for free. Well, that was
the same

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thing with the the indie Spirit
Awards, a lot of big name actors

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were there who worked either for
scale or on spec.

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Right, which is an interesting,
you know, labour of love versus,

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you know, Merkin Thiel approach.
And I think there's a lot more

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of that going on in all forms of
art. Hell, yeah. I mean, I think

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I think writers are doing books
on spec more than they used to.

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Obviously, people were doing
movies on spec more than they

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used to. And so so the amateur
now is the one that comes up and

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you know, goes up. I need my
money up front. I need this. I

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need that. Exactly.

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Exactly. Well, and I guess spec,
you know, the web 2.0 version of

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that is what we call rev share.

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Right? Hey, by the way, you open
a chat room because I'm getting

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people twittering me about
whether or not you'd like you

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did the last time No,

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I didn't do anything.

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I mean, are you going to open a
chat room? Oh,

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I didn't open a chat room last
time.

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We open something didn't yet.
The chat room or IRC channel or

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something? No, no,

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I don't know. What's your what's
your were you on John?

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It was a show with you.

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I used to listen to the tapes.
Here's not something Leo. Did

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you know that your real friend?

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No, no, Leo. Leo does that he's
always done that but you did

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something off the wall. And
that's why I got a bunch of

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Twitter's this morning from
people saying was this ad I'm

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gonna get no no, no, I

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know. No, I know what it is. I
know what it is i Okay. What I

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always do because people always
want to know, whenever I fly

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somewhere, myself or
commercially, when I land I

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always Twitter landed safely at
fill in airport code. And to

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this morning, I landed and I
said landed safely. London

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Heathrow. No agenda 28 Coming up
later today, so that's what

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happened. So people are well,
okay, that's what it is. Hey,

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just staying in Hollywood for
one second. If you follow this

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Wesley Snipes story.

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It's weird, dude, this

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is fucked up.

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Yeah, what did the Catholic
expect? You know, what do you

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throw this? Because she was not
as though we haven't got enough.

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You know, we have this that came
up recently. And people always

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complaining about we have 5% of
the world's population and 25%

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of the world's prisoners. I
mean, it's like we just want to

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throw everybody in jail for for
any reason, but he has a number

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now we're having poppers jails.
I thought that was always

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considered an impractical what
you want to do is what they did

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with you know, Fresh Prince,
what's his name? They he was at

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a tax bill like this and they
just attached his salary for 10

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years.

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Okay, but so here's here's the
story. So Wesley Snipes was

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advised by one of those kooky
guys who of course, I'd love to

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do this because, you know, being
a Ron Paul supporter, you know,

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we all feel the IRS is illegal
was never ratified and the

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government has no right to take
your money at a federal level.

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And Wesley Snipes got one of
these guys, one of these

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advisors who you know, says you
can prove that you don't have to

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pay any income tax. So so they
literally did not file it that

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these guys went they got four
and a half, one guy got four and

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a half years, the other guy got
10 years. So this the statement

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here is you do actually have to
pay income tax. Apparently you

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do. But what pisses me off is
you've got these Hollywood

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bitches like Paris Hilton and
Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan

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driving around the city fucking
tanked out of their mind and

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actual threat to society. And
they go in for 24 hours. This is

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ridiculous. It's it's just
killing me. And meanwhile, OJ

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Simpson is is a free man thing.
Yeah, golf, it's a dual reality

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show. It's just that really
freaked me out. I've been going

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through some tax stuff in the US
and even though I paid my taxes

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for, you know, 99 through 2004,
whatever appropriate, you have

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to file you have to file a Form
even if you're living in another

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country and paying taxes and so
either the forms weren't made up

434
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,530
or whatever it is. So there has
to be all reverse engineered.

435
00:24:50,010 --> 00:24:53,460
And let me tell you, man, these
guys are heavy on me and now I'm

436
00:24:53,460 --> 00:24:55,350
seeing this I'm like, you know,
it's

437
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:58,080
well yeah, he's the example they
always do this. You know, this

438
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,120
has been going on forever. They
always find some guy named make

439
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:03,240
an example out of him. This is
the worst case scenario. So he

440
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,550
got, you know, made an example
of just to scare the public, and

441
00:25:08,550 --> 00:25:11,370
which is, you know, that way.
It's just, it's almost like a

442
00:25:11,370 --> 00:25:14,850
publicity technique. But, but
what bugs me the most is the

443
00:25:14,850 --> 00:25:17,610
jail thing because it's not as
though that they attached and

444
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,210
you know, took his mansion or
whatever, but it's just like we

445
00:25:21,210 --> 00:25:25,110
look for any excuse there is to
just throw people in jail. So

446
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:28,140
people in jail and one somebody
pointed out in one of these

447
00:25:28,140 --> 00:25:30,930
right wing talk shows that I
like listening to that, you

448
00:25:30,930 --> 00:25:33,390
know, the problem is, is that
these many of these jails are

449
00:25:33,390 --> 00:25:36,810
privatised, and these companies
are making money by having more

450
00:25:36,810 --> 00:25:39,870
prisoners, and they're lobbying
Congress to pass more laws to

451
00:25:39,870 --> 00:25:42,540
make more things illegal with
mandatory prison sentence, I

452
00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:44,670
realise it's a money making
operation.

453
00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:48,540
And I realised the other day in
California, you have a I don't

454
00:25:48,540 --> 00:25:51,510
remember the term you have a
special type of jail that you

455
00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:55,140
can pay, you can pay it's like
room and board. It's a jail only

456
00:25:55,140 --> 00:26:00,210
you pay a set fee per day, and
it's a luxury jail. And this is

457
00:26:00,210 --> 00:26:02,580
where all these Hollywood
pitches go to have you heard

458
00:26:02,580 --> 00:26:03,240
about this?

459
00:26:03,540 --> 00:26:06,270
Yeah, I don't know anything
about it. But I have heard about

460
00:26:06,270 --> 00:26:09,690
it. It was it came up in the
conversation of some recently

461
00:26:09,690 --> 00:26:12,630
and then I kind of lost track of
it, I should look into it. You

462
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:14,730
should It's ridiculous. It's
ridiculous. You

463
00:26:14,729 --> 00:26:18,479
have money, you can go to a more
luxurious jail, what a great

464
00:26:18,479 --> 00:26:19,109
country.

465
00:26:21,060 --> 00:26:23,400
Are they going to jail at all,
and half the time these people

466
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,100
shouldn't even be in jail. I
mean, it's they have people on

467
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:28,560
minor drug offences, you know,
they've walked around with them,

468
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,520
or they, but some weed on him.
And the next thing you know,

469
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,370
they're in jail for 10 years. I
mean, who needs it? And the

470
00:26:35,370 --> 00:26:37,920
worst part about the Wesley
Snipes thing that bugs me the

471
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,800
worst, instead of collecting the
money from the guy by making

472
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,680
them do a million films, and
then just taking all the money

473
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,070
and putting it in a tax coffers,
putting the guy in jail cost me

474
00:26:47,070 --> 00:26:50,310
money, and he shows like, cost
40,000 bucks a year to keep a

475
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:54,990
guy in jail. And it's like, why
am I paying for his tax issue? I

476
00:26:54,990 --> 00:26:57,120
mean, why don't they just leave
him out of jail and make him

477
00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:59,580
work, work it off. And it
doesn't make any sense that the

478
00:26:59,580 --> 00:27:00,840
guy would go to jail. And he
showed

479
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,990
up with with $5 million and
checks and said, you know, he

480
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:06,510
let me give you a down payment,
you know, he has to pay 70

481
00:27:06,510 --> 00:27:09,510
million or something like that.
And he showed up with money, 5

482
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:12,660
million bucks, which they, which
they did collect by the way,

483
00:27:13,859 --> 00:27:16,439
they still throw him in jail.
But it's just just seems to me

484
00:27:16,439 --> 00:27:20,699
to be a complete back password
way of doing things. I mean, and

485
00:27:20,699 --> 00:27:23,639
then the fact is that we're
getting, or prisons are just

486
00:27:23,639 --> 00:27:28,139
ridiculous we have we have more
people in jail per capita in the

487
00:27:28,139 --> 00:27:31,889
world, and more people in total
numbers in the world of any

488
00:27:31,889 --> 00:27:35,759
country. I mean, this includes
China and Russia and all these

489
00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:39,749
other crazy places. What's wrong
with this picture? And then we I

490
00:27:39,749 --> 00:27:43,139
was just watching the other day.
Yeah, Schwarzenegger was on

491
00:27:43,199 --> 00:27:45,659
America's Most Wanted talking
about how we need more prisons.

492
00:27:45,659 --> 00:27:48,449
So we need to put more people in
jail. I'm thinking Why don't get

493
00:27:48,449 --> 00:27:50,549
me how about doing something
about the crime. I mean, while

494
00:27:50,610 --> 00:27:53,490
we're doing very important work,
John, we're making sure that

495
00:27:53,490 --> 00:27:56,100
death by lethal injection
doesn't hurt too much. We've

496
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:58,800
been doing a lot of work on
that. Have you been following

497
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,820
that? Yeah, yeah, God, it's
messed up, they

498
00:28:02,820 --> 00:28:05,040
go back to a guillotine.
Anyways,

499
00:28:05,610 --> 00:28:10,140
isn't that much, much less
painful? I would think yeah, it

500
00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:15,780
is. Over done with and I'm a big
fan is the wrong word. But I

501
00:28:15,780 --> 00:28:18,660
feel you know, this should be
televised, we put everything in

502
00:28:18,660 --> 00:28:21,960
the world, we put kids getting
shot up the fuckup in the

503
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,900
desert, we put it all on
television, but then we're gonna

504
00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:28,320
hide it when we kill someone who
we think is deserves to be

505
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,800
killed really deserves it. And
that's, that's a reality show.

506
00:28:31,980 --> 00:28:33,210
We should do that. It's

507
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:37,620
been discussed before I have
actually figured that some years

508
00:28:37,620 --> 00:28:39,900
ago that this is one of these
days. I mean, just like the

509
00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:42,780
Roman Empire or whatever, we're
gonna have to televise these

510
00:28:42,780 --> 00:28:45,510
things. But you know, the fact
is, are so few and these

511
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:48,210
executions are so few and far
between, they just assumed keep

512
00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:51,150
these guys on death row, you
know,

513
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:54,330
forever, but that's what's
great. Mark Burnett will do a

514
00:28:54,330 --> 00:28:57,840
fantastic job because we'll
actually call it death row. And

515
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,300
every you know, it's like the
Big Brother house meets the

516
00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:03,450
guillotine. Because you know,
you've you followed the inmates,

517
00:29:03,450 --> 00:29:06,300
you fall in love with them, they
become endearing to you as

518
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:07,830
they're on death row, and then
we kill them.

519
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,970
Yeah, well, that's never gonna
happen. And with with this group

520
00:29:11,970 --> 00:29:15,390
that's currently running things,
they'd rather just put people in

521
00:29:15,390 --> 00:29:21,810
jail. So talking about the
society being kind of post

522
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,160
skewed. No, this is we're
finishing up and you probably

523
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,250
didn't notice it because you're
too busy with meetings. But this

524
00:29:29,250 --> 00:29:31,410
last week was Green Week.

525
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,860
No. Notice I saw I saw buttons,
badges and posters.

526
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:39,930
This is what we we always love
to pay lip service to these

527
00:29:39,930 --> 00:29:40,290
things,

528
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,680
buttons, badges and posters,
everybody how green are we?

529
00:29:44,940 --> 00:29:48,180
It's it's I've been actually
recording a few of these things

530
00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:52,050
because they have like special.
There's two things that have

531
00:29:52,050 --> 00:29:55,590
cropped up that in the Greenway.
One is if you start to really

532
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:58,410
start looking at some of the
reports that were going on,

533
00:29:58,410 --> 00:30:01,170
there's always the one that
always sneaks in, which always

534
00:30:01,170 --> 00:30:06,750
makes me suspicious, is there's
always some anti meat. Anti

535
00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:11,730
beef. Let's don't eat cattle
kind of a slam in there which

536
00:30:11,730 --> 00:30:14,250
indicates to me that there's
like a bunch of vegetarians

537
00:30:15,030 --> 00:30:19,710
are we talking about this is
this the the meat from a test

538
00:30:19,710 --> 00:30:20,130
tube?

539
00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:23,760
Well, the meat from a test who
came out this week to which is

540
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,880
Peters idea to make meat in a
test tube, which is sickening if

541
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,570
you think about it,

542
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:31,770
that, hey, I'm making fish in my
pond, why would we, but I'm

543
00:30:31,770 --> 00:30:33,870
watching I started off the
beginning of the week with

544
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:37,920
watching Bill Maher. And they're
going on and then all of that

545
00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:42,060
out of the blue. There's talking
about some green thing and all

546
00:30:42,060 --> 00:30:44,910
the blue out of the blue Bill
Maher goes when there's one

547
00:30:44,910 --> 00:30:48,810
other thing we need to talk
about, which is meat. People eat

548
00:30:48,810 --> 00:30:52,680
too much meat and meat uses so
much grain and all the grain and

549
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,230
he just straight doesn't talk
about grass fed which is really

550
00:30:55,230 --> 00:30:57,930
the trend in beef, you know
today is people want don't want

551
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,620
grain fed beef, they want grass
fed when most of these, that

552
00:31:01,620 --> 00:31:05,250
means a cow can graze on a you
know, otherwise useless field.

553
00:31:05,490 --> 00:31:08,310
And you know, actually, it's
part of a cycle. It's very

554
00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:11,970
important for them to exist
there. The Buffalo used to do

555
00:31:11,970 --> 00:31:16,290
that, like the Netherlands has
wrapped up grass. And you know,

556
00:31:16,290 --> 00:31:18,180
so where's the green thing
coming in, but it's part of the

557
00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:20,970
propaganda. And so Mark goes off
the deep end, like some

558
00:31:20,970 --> 00:31:24,900
vegetarian nut ball, about all
how they how this is the worst

559
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:26,370
thing in the world. So
meanwhile, a couple of days

560
00:31:26,370 --> 00:31:29,670
later, I'm watching a green
report on on one of our local

561
00:31:29,670 --> 00:31:33,810
stations, channel 11 in San
Francisco Bay Area, and they

562
00:31:33,810 --> 00:31:37,260
have this green report and they
have special logos and some

563
00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:39,720
screwball correspondents that
look like a bunch of

564
00:31:40,530 --> 00:31:43,410
green report. Green report.

565
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,200
Sorry, you know, so they bring
on these kind of, you know,

566
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,550
looks like vegetarian vegans.
And so woman comes on and she

567
00:31:50,550 --> 00:31:54,720
goes, and then the real problem
is meat. And she brings up the

568
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,900
meat thing again, she does that
and then you hurt them no wasn't

569
00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:01,980
affected, they eat a bunch of
grain. But that there, this this

570
00:32:01,980 --> 00:32:05,910
is the this one here, which is
always like an eye roller. This

571
00:32:05,910 --> 00:32:09,480
because they fart, and they give
off all this methane and this

572
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,330
the methane from the cows that
are causing it is causing global

573
00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:15,630
warming. And it's like yeah,
I've heard that. I've heard this

574
00:32:15,630 --> 00:32:19,290
but every time I hear this, what
are you criminally insane even

575
00:32:19,290 --> 00:32:19,890
bringing this

576
00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:23,579
up? Throw that person in jail?
Not Wesley Snipes, are you nuts?

577
00:32:24,270 --> 00:32:27,360
So anyway, and but this is all
part of this Green Week. And

578
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,840
it's just like, this seems to be
some vegetarian undercurrent,

579
00:32:31,140 --> 00:32:33,720
you know, with the whole thing
and it's just makes you sick to

580
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,530
watch it because it's like,
obvious propaganda. And the news

581
00:32:37,530 --> 00:32:41,070
reporters say nothing about
especially this idiotic methane

582
00:32:41,070 --> 00:32:43,860
thing from the cows. They say
no, by the way, if they stopped

583
00:32:43,860 --> 00:32:47,220
feeding him grain, they probably
have less farting, just grass

584
00:32:47,220 --> 00:32:49,290
fed, but that's beside the
point. But anyway, there's

585
00:32:49,290 --> 00:32:52,020
nobody brings anything in nobody
questions, any of this. They

586
00:32:52,020 --> 00:32:56,220
just parrot whatever shows up
from whoever's behind the whole

587
00:32:56,220 --> 00:32:59,040
thing. We went, I'm suspicious
of that. And I find the whole

588
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:04,080
thing just incredibly annoying.
It is and I make myself clear.

589
00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:07,350
I'm Yeah. Oh, I love it when you
get pissed off. I believe it's,

590
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,070
I believe it's related to the
food prices, which is another

591
00:33:11,070 --> 00:33:13,290
big story of you know,
everyone's talking about on

592
00:33:13,950 --> 00:33:16,440
shouldn't be talking about that,
rather than you know this. But I

593
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,350
think I think it's, I think it's
related to that. And by the way,

594
00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:24,090
can we just say that the oil 116
or $120 a barrel of oil? Can we

595
00:33:24,090 --> 00:33:27,330
just say this is a scam? I mean,
totally. Can we just let

596
00:33:27,330 --> 00:33:30,960
everyone know that? The 11
billion, which, who's going to

597
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,210
report tomorrow? Maybe shell 11
billion in profit. You know,

598
00:33:36,210 --> 00:33:40,170
come on, can't you see where the
scam is? Throw those funders in

599
00:33:40,170 --> 00:33:42,240
jail? Free Wesley Snipes,

600
00:33:42,330 --> 00:33:47,430
there used to be a thing called
the excess profit tax. Why isn't

601
00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:50,880
that implemented anymore? I
don't know about this tax. It

602
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,610
used to be very popular in the
20s and 30s. When some company

603
00:33:53,610 --> 00:33:55,650
would all of a sudden you know
cornered the market and start

604
00:33:55,650 --> 00:33:58,800
making so much money that was
ungodly, they just throw it they

605
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,670
just have to pass a bill in
Congress is an excess profit you

606
00:34:02,670 --> 00:34:03,510
give us the money

607
00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:07,440
Well, John, do you really wonder
why that isn't implemented now?

608
00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:15,450
Let's talk to Cheney and see
what Deke babe Bush why why is

609
00:34:15,450 --> 00:34:18,240
the no access price tag where's

610
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:20,970
the excess profit tax that's
what I want to know oil come

611
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,970
Exxon should have been paying
it. These guys they make

612
00:34:23,970 --> 00:34:26,280
everybody suffer when they're
suffering but then when they're

613
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,380
doing well, they do they throw
the money. They

614
00:34:29,429 --> 00:34:33,809
stick it in our back. We're
knifed. How do we stop that

615
00:34:34,469 --> 00:34:37,319
excess profit tax we need a
Congress has got a backbone.

616
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:41,009
Yeah. But you see that alarm is
it's all been set up over the

617
00:34:41,009 --> 00:34:46,409
years since the 80s. About this,
you know that this kind of non

618
00:34:46,409 --> 00:34:47,459
regulatory

619
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,619
but hold on. Just you know.

620
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,089
Do you regulate everything and
you know, don't have any

621
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:58,379
control, you know, just
basically become an anarchy and

622
00:34:58,439 --> 00:35:01,199
then let people run rampant.
That's the way it all work

623
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:03,959
itself out. In the end, it
doesn't work itself on it, it

624
00:35:03,959 --> 00:35:07,619
would work, you know, I don't
see is an interesting, you know,

625
00:35:07,619 --> 00:35:09,989
thing to think about Deborah
with all these, you know, the

626
00:35:10,019 --> 00:35:14,699
people who are free market, you
know, deregulate everything,

627
00:35:15,029 --> 00:35:18,329
this this group, this group of
thinkers, they always have the

628
00:35:18,329 --> 00:35:21,569
argument that the market the
free market will work itself

629
00:35:21,569 --> 00:35:25,559
out. Yeah, well, working itself
out also entails the government

630
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:28,919
stepping in and taking a excess
profit tax from these guys.

631
00:35:28,979 --> 00:35:31,169
That's part of the system, it
seems to me,

632
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,750
but that won't, but that won't
actually help us because we're

633
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:37,770
still paying four bucks. For a
gallon of gas, the tax won't

634
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,790
alleviate that.

635
00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:41,250
I know. But at least it makes me
feel better.

636
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:46,170
So we can we can buy more, more
weapons and kill people in

637
00:35:46,170 --> 00:35:49,380
deserts, makes me feel grand to
Wales

638
00:35:49,410 --> 00:35:51,480
better than me paying for it.
But whatever the case is, the

639
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,240
point is, is that there's a lot
of things that aren't being done

640
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,480
to slow this down. And I agree
with you. I think that by the

641
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,270
way, that barrel of a barrel of
oil is going to go to 200 bucks.

642
00:36:00,270 --> 00:36:00,390
But

643
00:36:00,390 --> 00:36:03,870
wait a minute, let us me, I told
you that last week, no, I

644
00:36:03,870 --> 00:36:05,010
told you no. I

645
00:36:05,010 --> 00:36:07,770
told you I said it was gonna be
a $2 euro and it was going to be

646
00:36:07,770 --> 00:36:10,920
$200 A barrel of oil by the end
of the year. And you said it's

647
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,440
going to that's not going to
happen that fast. It'll I don't

648
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,410
think it's gonna happen that
fast. Where I agree, though, on

649
00:36:16,410 --> 00:36:18,090
the pricing? I think it

650
00:36:18,090 --> 00:36:20,580
can I think it can head that
way. And I think if it did, it

651
00:36:20,580 --> 00:36:23,430
wouldn't surprise me. But the
fact is, I think a lot of people

652
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:26,580
observed observed this, which is
this people are, you know, the

653
00:36:26,580 --> 00:36:28,980
futures guys are trading this
stuff up, and they're taking all

654
00:36:28,980 --> 00:36:31,800
their profits and trading it up
higher their pyramid thing. I

655
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,610
mean, they're in, you know,
they're all in as it were, to

656
00:36:35,610 --> 00:36:38,190
take this thing up as high as it
can. But the problem is when it

657
00:36:38,190 --> 00:36:41,520
finally, you know, hits the
brick wall, because, in fact,

658
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,720
demand is down for for these
things. It's going to collapse.

659
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:47,520
like there's no tomorrow, it's
going to be a very interesting

660
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,910
short side, if people can figure
out what the timing is.

661
00:36:50,910 --> 00:36:55,500
Yeah. So So you think it'll then
just collapse onto itself and go

662
00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:59,190
down to like something
reasonable, like $23?

663
00:36:59,670 --> 00:37:01,800
And I don't know if you go that
far, but it definitely go below

664
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,340
50?

665
00:37:04,590 --> 00:37:06,780
Because that's what it is,
right? It's just it's just

666
00:37:06,780 --> 00:37:10,500
futures trading and commodities
markets and just people just,

667
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:12,900
you know, because the minute
someone lights a fucking

668
00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:15,960
firecracker in the Gulf
somewhere, then the price goes

669
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,920
up five bucks.

670
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:20,130
Right? Well, right now that like
somebody will say is that, you

671
00:37:20,130 --> 00:37:22,650
know, essentially the smart
money has been selling dollars

672
00:37:22,650 --> 00:37:25,680
and buying oil. And then at some
point, you reverse it and you

673
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,200
start buying dollars and selling
oil, and then you know, you make

674
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,940
your money on both going both
ways.

675
00:37:31,140 --> 00:37:34,320
Well, let's try and predict that
timing, John, because I wouldn't

676
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,610
mind making some sorrows money
on that. And oh, by the way,

677
00:37:38,610 --> 00:37:40,830
you're right. I read in The
Economist. We talked about it

678
00:37:40,830 --> 00:37:45,210
last week. Maybe the week before
that Soros was everywhere on

679
00:37:45,210 --> 00:37:48,330
television saying the bailout
was the right thing to do of

680
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:55,110
Bear Stearns. He bought he
bought Bear Stearns at $45 the

681
00:37:55,110 --> 00:37:59,820
Wednesday before they did the
back the backroom deal and when

682
00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:07,440
the stock went to $2 and so he
got SCO rude while he did not

683
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,220
completely screwed because he
didn't lose everything but wow,

684
00:38:11,310 --> 00:38:12,630
he must be pissed off

685
00:38:14,070 --> 00:38:15,510
somebody suckered him

686
00:38:16,830 --> 00:38:17,700
big time.

687
00:38:19,140 --> 00:38:20,940
Yeah, I got a deal for you.

688
00:38:21,569 --> 00:38:25,409
I got I got an absolute certain
one for you. Dude. This is going

689
00:38:25,409 --> 00:38:26,399
all the way Georgie.

690
00:38:29,310 --> 00:38:31,920
Got another note for somebody
else asked him about the chat

691
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,220
room.

692
00:38:32,850 --> 00:38:35,940
I didn't say I was gonna set up
a chat room and I'm not

693
00:38:35,940 --> 00:38:39,600
streaming it live either. And
nor do I want to.

694
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:41,850
I don't blame him one of these
days. We

695
00:38:41,850 --> 00:38:45,630
got to reverse it though. I want
to be an early morning side of

696
00:38:45,630 --> 00:38:48,240
the equation. I'm always the end
of the day or when I'm messed up

697
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:51,060
from when when I've been flying
for 12 hours.

698
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:54,870
Yeah, that's no problem. We did
it once at night. We did your

699
00:38:54,870 --> 00:39:00,810
night. Yeah, one time. Yeah.
early on. And my morning. Yeah,

700
00:39:00,870 --> 00:39:04,470
I don't remember that. Oh, Doc.
So let's not do that if I don't

701
00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:05,040
remember it.

702
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:08,760
I don't remember it either. But
I remember doing it.

703
00:39:08,970 --> 00:39:11,760
So here's here's the big
comments. I got first of all,

704
00:39:11,790 --> 00:39:16,050
lots of people still angry about
the non explanation of soy milk

705
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:21,630
shrinking your brain. I'm just
gonna take

706
00:39:21,689 --> 00:39:25,529
a word my son is the is the guy
who's nutty about this stuff. I

707
00:39:25,529 --> 00:39:27,839
mean, he has all the
documentation. I tell him to

708
00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:30,569
somebody brought it up. I will I
haven't do that because he's

709
00:39:30,569 --> 00:39:35,369
like, he's the one who got the
family off of soil together of

710
00:39:35,369 --> 00:39:39,329
soil and the rest of him in the
soil. The soil thing is not an

711
00:39:39,329 --> 00:39:43,109
unknown issue and it has an
oestrogen type effect on some

712
00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:46,829
people and I've always said is
what's causing the current UPS

713
00:39:46,919 --> 00:39:52,619
uptick in man breasts, boobs,
and also, you know, the other

714
00:39:52,619 --> 00:39:55,859
oil that I don't like, which is
canola, because then I always

715
00:39:55,859 --> 00:39:58,679
had people thought we were
really healthy you know, we use

716
00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:01,799
only use canola oil I'm thinking
do you have you ever seen a

717
00:40:01,799 --> 00:40:05,789
canola plant? I was asked him.
And well, what do you think it

718
00:40:05,789 --> 00:40:08,759
looks like? Well, I don't know,
I can't think of I don't know

719
00:40:08,909 --> 00:40:13,169
what it's like a palm tree. It's
a rapeseed. And so he said no as

720
00:40:13,169 --> 00:40:15,629
rapeseed they had course for
marketing purposes, you don't

721
00:40:15,629 --> 00:40:18,839
want it ever. So rapeseed oil
doesn't sound very good. But But

722
00:40:18,839 --> 00:40:22,949
rapeseed oil is naturally it's
got an oil, it's got a an acid

723
00:40:22,949 --> 00:40:28,289
in it that's naturally bad for
your heart. And they have with

724
00:40:28,289 --> 00:40:32,879
canola, they've, they've managed
to process the acids, so it's

725
00:40:32,909 --> 00:40:37,619
reduced so much that it's not as
bad for you. But canola stands

726
00:40:37,619 --> 00:40:41,729
for Canadian oil with low
acidity. And it's good. There's

727
00:40:41,729 --> 00:40:45,749
no plant. It's just a marketing
term. And the fact that the

728
00:40:45,749 --> 00:40:49,949
health food nuts are all roses,
you know that. Oh, yeah. And so

729
00:40:49,949 --> 00:40:51,539
the health food nuts are all
around us. They don't have a

730
00:40:51,539 --> 00:40:57,599
clue. They think it's a plant.
Yeah, canola plants. Grown in my

731
00:40:57,599 --> 00:40:58,049
lawn.

732
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,890
With my fish, my forte, my
forage fish, you know, just

733
00:41:01,890 --> 00:41:04,860
doing some self examination
there. John, I think I should

734
00:41:05,070 --> 00:41:10,050
cut back on the, on the soy, I'm
developing kind of an eight cup

735
00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:10,440
here.

736
00:41:12,090 --> 00:41:15,210
You know, olive oil is this oil
of choice. I mean, there's there

737
00:41:15,210 --> 00:41:17,190
are a couple other healthy oils
that are out there that are

738
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:20,880
traditional. They're all like
grapeseed oil is very good for

739
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,230
you. It doesn't have any harmful
properties. Sunflower oil and

740
00:41:25,230 --> 00:41:28,080
safflower oil are good for
although the commercial ones

741
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,230
tend to be hexane extracted,
which some people don't like the

742
00:41:31,230 --> 00:41:36,060
idea of that experts. hexane is
a solvent that's used to extract

743
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:38,550
oil from seeds and commercial
environments. And most of the

744
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,550
oil that whether it's soybean or
anything else is a hexane

745
00:41:41,550 --> 00:41:45,540
extracted as a use you use the
hexane pulls the oil out, and

746
00:41:45,540 --> 00:41:49,290
then you flash off the hexane.
And you end up with just an oil

747
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:54,690
with probably a miniscule amount
of hexane dissolved in the

748
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,630
within the oil. But it's but
it's so small. I'm not a I'm not

749
00:41:57,630 --> 00:42:00,780
a big nut ball about that as
much as some people are.

750
00:42:00,810 --> 00:42:06,600
So how is the soy milk created?
And why is that so bad? Soy

751
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,770
milk. Yeah. What's that mean?

752
00:42:08,220 --> 00:42:11,490
For one thing, there's no such
thing. So it's obviously a you

753
00:42:11,490 --> 00:42:14,100
know, it's artificially made? I
don't know. I don't know what

754
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:17,790
the process is. I'll look it up.
But, you know, somehow they

755
00:42:17,790 --> 00:42:21,210
emulsify it and they get a milky
colour and they probably add

756
00:42:21,210 --> 00:42:24,060
some sweeteners to it of some
sorts, he sort of has some

757
00:42:24,060 --> 00:42:26,790
flavour because it should be
naturally tasteless. I mean, if

758
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:29,400
you ever have tofu, there's not
a lot of flavour there. It's

759
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,890
just you know, something that
you soak in things. That said,

760
00:42:34,890 --> 00:42:37,320
you know, I've always been a fan
of tofu skins. I think they're

761
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,660
pretty tasty. And I liked those
little beans that they have in

762
00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:42,270
the Japanese restaurant, which
is soy beans. Yeah, like, at a

763
00:42:42,270 --> 00:42:42,690
mommy.

764
00:42:43,649 --> 00:42:45,569
Man. They're popular.

765
00:42:46,620 --> 00:42:48,300
So I want to go ahead.

766
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,200
Okay, I was just gonna say the
only other thing is we really

767
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,910
hit a nerve with with China.

768
00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:58,980
Yeah. In fact, I just got a new
post on my blog, which somebody

769
00:42:58,980 --> 00:43:01,380
would you would buy time to hear
this will probably be scrolled

770
00:43:01,380 --> 00:43:04,500
off, but type in? What's that
address? Again? John

771
00:43:05,010 --> 00:43:11,280
doerr.org/blog. In the search
box, type in China, space Congo.

772
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,980
And you'll you'll hit this
particular post and it would

773
00:43:13,980 --> 00:43:18,300
somebody sent it on Twitter,
actually, the real Divorce Act,

774
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:22,110
by the way, if I'm sure you want
to put me on there. It's an

775
00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:25,650
article from BBC but it's mostly
from BBC Two. It's not

776
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,760
necessarily pure BBC News. I got
some reports, but they deal was

777
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,390
just signing with the Congo. And
let me just read this, because

778
00:43:33,390 --> 00:43:36,000
there's a kicker paragraph at
the end, which is exactly what

779
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,180
we're talking about. Due to be
signed in Beijing. And the next

780
00:43:39,180 --> 00:43:43,260
few days, it gives the DR Congo
6 billion of desperately needed

781
00:43:43,260 --> 00:43:48,060
infrastructure, which includes
2400 miles of road 2000 miles of

782
00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:53,250
railway, 32 hospitals and 145
health care centres and to count

783
00:43:53,250 --> 00:43:57,840
them to universities in exchange
for the Chinese having access to

784
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,280
all the mines that produce
copper and cobalt. And of

785
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,720
course, my comment is, how far
along how any bets they get

786
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:12,270
started on the mining before the
32 hospitals. The kicker the

787
00:44:12,270 --> 00:44:14,580
kicker is this one right here,
which is what I was talking

788
00:44:14,580 --> 00:44:18,660
about last week. And this is in
the same article, a copy of the

789
00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:22,170
original Dr. Congolese Chinese
Memorandum of Understanding

790
00:44:22,170 --> 00:44:26,190
obtained by Newsnight appears to
exonerate the Chinese side from

791
00:44:26,220 --> 00:44:30,120
all taxes and customs duties
until the promised building work

792
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,620
is completed. This is where they
bring in everything they can

793
00:44:34,620 --> 00:44:38,130
they set up shop in the country,
they never complete the work so

794
00:44:38,130 --> 00:44:41,070
they essentially can bring
anything they want duty free

795
00:44:41,070 --> 00:44:45,150
into the Congo. And what they
do, is they according to

796
00:44:45,210 --> 00:44:48,750
everybody who's witnessed this,
they they'll bring in like

797
00:44:48,750 --> 00:44:52,140
computers by the tonne, open
computer stores put everybody

798
00:44:52,140 --> 00:44:56,220
else out of business. So, you
know, some of it somewhat

799
00:44:56,220 --> 00:44:59,850
dubious quality, computers,
power supplies and everything

800
00:44:59,850 --> 00:45:04,050
else. ASO and balsall bring in
you know household goods and

801
00:45:04,050 --> 00:45:07,500
food and they're essentially
taking ruin the local economy

802
00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:11,730
with all this duty free Chinese
goods pouring into the country

803
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,270
never really finished these
projects and then either you

804
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:18,780
know, colonise the place or just
bail out after a few years old,

805
00:45:18,810 --> 00:45:22,020
you know, at jobs, you get all
the cobalt out of there and

806
00:45:22,020 --> 00:45:26,250
leave the place decimated. And
this is only in the Congo. Now

807
00:45:26,250 --> 00:45:28,590
that's going on all over Africa.
This is the latest deal.

808
00:45:29,580 --> 00:45:32,010
Who Okay, so who runs the Congo?

809
00:45:33,690 --> 00:45:36,990
He did some kind of a
dictatorship. Well, yeah,

810
00:45:37,020 --> 00:45:40,710
figures but he would they do
these deals with divorced

811
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,860
governments are the ones that
buy into this because you can

812
00:45:43,860 --> 00:45:48,810
buy off, you know, they're bribe
incented. And you just basically

813
00:45:48,810 --> 00:45:51,810
take over the place for a while
you can stay there or not. I

814
00:45:51,810 --> 00:45:56,610
figure my scenario is that if
they try to stay in colonise, at

815
00:45:56,610 --> 00:46:00,480
some point, the locals go crazy,
and just start killing them. And

816
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,790
then of course, the news media
says, Oh, the poor Chinese are

817
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:05,460
getting butchered in the Congo.
Let's go help with bringing the

818
00:46:05,460 --> 00:46:09,390
UN. Yeah. And then they'll pitch
to the UN. And then we'll help

819
00:46:09,390 --> 00:46:12,450
them you know, I mean, the whole
thing is a joke. But let it you

820
00:46:12,450 --> 00:46:16,200
know, let it play out. I mean,
put it away in the buying our

821
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,060
copper from the Chinese I guess.

822
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,670
Where are we going with this
world, John?

823
00:46:22,140 --> 00:46:23,580
To hell in a handbasket.

824
00:46:24,330 --> 00:46:27,660
Speaking of which, I did this on
a daily source code, but I

825
00:46:27,660 --> 00:46:29,910
really wanted to bring it up
with you researchers from the

826
00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:35,850
Cancer Council of Victoria.
Which I guess is that that New

827
00:46:35,850 --> 00:46:37,050
Zealand or Australia?

828
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,120
Victoria? Yeah. I think it's New
Zealand. It's a bad thing to

829
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,590
mess up. Anyway, for New
Zealanders and sorry, guys, we

830
00:46:46,590 --> 00:46:48,360
actually have a lot of New
Zealanders that listen to this

831
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,200
show. Yeah.

832
00:46:49,770 --> 00:46:52,950
So researchers from the Cancer
Council of Victoria found that

833
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:57,090
men who masturbated more than
five times each week, were 1/3

834
00:46:57,090 --> 00:46:59,490
less likely to develop prostate
cancer.

835
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,750
Yeah, that's been all over the
talk shows all week.

836
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:07,920
But here's what I found
interesting. Why do they say men

837
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,000
who masturbate? What if you just
have sex five times a week? Why

838
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,560
does it have to be masturbation?

839
00:47:13,919 --> 00:47:17,579
Well, one of the guys one of the
reports say that the problem I

840
00:47:17,579 --> 00:47:19,649
think, for one thing, they're
trying to prevent people from

841
00:47:19,649 --> 00:47:22,139
having sex. I mean, as usual,

842
00:47:23,070 --> 00:47:25,500
I can't see very straight John
Hold on a second.

843
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,680
So the they say well, because he
was sex you can have you know,

844
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,240
STDs with masturbation, you
can't and it's like, okay,

845
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:36,810
whatever,

846
00:47:36,930 --> 00:47:39,780
but that's not what they're
saying. They're saying men who

847
00:47:39,780 --> 00:47:41,970
masturbate I mean, it's just
it's weird.

848
00:47:42,810 --> 00:47:46,020
Yeah, it's a screwy thing. So
that came out of Victoria New

849
00:47:46,020 --> 00:47:46,530
Zealand

850
00:47:46,620 --> 00:47:50,730
and that's why I said this is a
foxnews.com store not Victoria

851
00:47:50,730 --> 00:47:54,150
Canada. Oh, maybe it is Canada
like it's possible Hold on a

852
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:59,880
document doesn't say that. It
just says Victoria and maybe it

853
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,000
is Canada that would that
actually kind of makes more

854
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,290
sense to me. Well, it

855
00:48:04,290 --> 00:48:07,080
makes more sense to me that'd be
New Zealand actually no offence

856
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,340
to you New Zealanders you know
that I know what I'm saying. I

857
00:48:11,340 --> 00:48:12,870
want to talk about the sheep or

858
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:17,580
anything you had to take it
there I didn't I just heard this

859
00:48:17,580 --> 00:48:20,640
morning on the news coming in
that a German high speed train

860
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:26,340
derailed in a tunnel because it
hit a flock of sheep it's not

861
00:48:26,340 --> 00:48:28,080
funny man that was the sheep

862
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,100
doing in the tunnel I

863
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:32,130
don't know the not good

864
00:48:33,390 --> 00:48:36,600
I don't know what's gonna ask
them anymore. Anybody get killed

865
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:36,630
I

866
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,940
don't have details on that I can
take a look it will be hard to

867
00:48:41,940 --> 00:48:42,150
those

868
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:45,570
tracks are pretty well protected
the highest be I know in France.

869
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:48,210
You know people do want to take
the high speed train all the

870
00:48:48,210 --> 00:48:51,690
time. I you know, it's fine to
take the high speed train in

871
00:48:51,690 --> 00:48:54,600
France except for one thing you
don't get to see anything.

872
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:58,290
Because most of the tracks are
in a ditch you know to keep

873
00:48:58,439 --> 00:49:00,419
25 people injured.

874
00:49:01,319 --> 00:49:05,459
That's the highest anyway the
high speed trains in France are

875
00:49:05,459 --> 00:49:08,459
the best fastest ones but you
can't see anything because

876
00:49:08,459 --> 00:49:10,049
they're all in ditches
basically.

877
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,450
Right You're really when you go
through Trent it's more like

878
00:49:12,450 --> 00:49:13,260
trenches

879
00:49:13,410 --> 00:49:15,900
yeah trenches they're like a
trench desert keeps you know

880
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:18,240
whatever for whatever reason
they haven't been trenches

881
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:22,110
aerodynamics. Probably that and
to keep you know people from

882
00:49:22,110 --> 00:49:25,200
throwing rocks at him or
whatever. And what they're

883
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,900
thinking like an American
nevermind. That's

884
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:32,640
Have you ever been Have you been
on these right because I took it

885
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:32,820
to

886
00:49:34,050 --> 00:49:36,900
the ice I've been on everyone
has pretty much all the high

887
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:37,200
speed

888
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,690
trains. This is the ICD the
German

889
00:49:40,860 --> 00:49:44,970
beautiful trains that they love.
The ICs are really nice, and

890
00:49:44,970 --> 00:49:48,600
they actually go on some of the
main routes so you can actually

891
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,300
see something out the window.
They're not in a ditch, but they

892
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:52,920
don't go quite as fast as the
French train.

893
00:49:52,980 --> 00:49:56,040
Three people suffered broken
bones. 20 people receive slight

894
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,270
injuries, cuts and bruises. Now
it looks pretty gnarly. Lee

895
00:50:01,140 --> 00:50:04,650
literally had one right off the
right off the rails. Doesn't

896
00:50:04,650 --> 00:50:07,560
take much. I think that sheep
wouldn't do that. But

897
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:10,260
he I think he just plough right
through the ship. You just have

898
00:50:10,260 --> 00:50:14,880
a bunch of, you know, chops
left. I mean, I don't know.

899
00:50:15,060 --> 00:50:17,760
That's, that really seems pretty
vulnerable. I mean, so if you

900
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,520
throw a throw anything on those
tracks that can derail pretty

901
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,000
quickly.

902
00:50:22,380 --> 00:50:29,160
Well, a flock of sheep probably
adds up. I'm sure a big cow with

903
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,030
a pride in it. How

904
00:50:30,030 --> 00:50:33,750
many is a flock? I don't know.
It's not a flock is a herd.

905
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,270
Okay. They're talking.

906
00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:41,400
Okay. So, you know, in the olden
days, when they used to have

907
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,030
steam trains used to have a cow
catcher. On the front front,

908
00:50:45,030 --> 00:50:48,810
yeah, would scoop you right off,
and it would scoop the cow off

909
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:54,300
and throw them aside. Maybe they
should think about a sheep

910
00:50:54,300 --> 00:50:57,390
catcher. A cow Catcher in the
front of these high speed trains

911
00:50:57,390 --> 00:50:57,750
echoed the

912
00:50:57,750 --> 00:51:00,900
nose looks destroyed, almost
like a plane that went through a

913
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:01,680
hailstorm.

914
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,259
We'll have to check it out.

915
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,530
And what else do you have
written down there? Yeah, I

916
00:51:07,530 --> 00:51:08,610
know. You got some notes.

917
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,810
No, that's my only thing was the
Chinese story about the Congo

918
00:51:14,010 --> 00:51:16,470
egg because of this one
paragraph that just cracked me

919
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:18,360
up when they talked about the
duty free thing because it's

920
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,630
exactly the scenario that was
described to me two years ago.

921
00:51:22,830 --> 00:51:27,540
And I were just somebody there's
a there's a good site. You

922
00:51:27,570 --> 00:51:31,410
people should check out this
guide. I think as Jim visited

923
00:51:31,410 --> 00:51:34,890
him, Jim Kunstler, he's got a
website. He's a writer that does

924
00:51:34,890 --> 00:51:37,740
all these books. He also writes
some Harry's Harem Scarem, kind

925
00:51:37,740 --> 00:51:40,890
of like economic dire
predictions. It's

926
00:51:40,890 --> 00:51:45,360
kunstler.com KUNST le r.com. And
you can read this you read him

927
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,170
or not, but the thing that's
cool about the site is not I

928
00:51:49,170 --> 00:51:52,500
disagree, since I'm a US person
in the cycles. I disagree with

929
00:51:52,530 --> 00:52:02,490
Hu NT SLERKUKU. Kunst KUNKUNSKU
In St. Le AR, I think.

930
00:52:03,630 --> 00:52:05,430
Freudian slip on my side. Sorry,

931
00:52:05,550 --> 00:52:11,550
I noticed and is that he's got
this eyesore of the month, which

932
00:52:11,550 --> 00:52:16,620
is just hilarious. You have to
good people out there should

933
00:52:16,620 --> 00:52:20,340
just go flick through these
eyesores of the month because of

934
00:52:20,340 --> 00:52:21,960
some of them are just like, wow,

935
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:24,270
I'm looking up today's eyesore

936
00:52:25,980 --> 00:52:28,830
go back a couple because there's
one in Czechoslovakia, they're

937
00:52:28,830 --> 00:52:30,870
gonna build that it's just like,
you look at this thing, and you

938
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:32,760
go, Oh my God, what are they
thinking?

939
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:40,890
What is this one? I gotta go
through a couple of my guess. Is

940
00:52:40,890 --> 00:52:43,650
this from from Rome? Or Greece?
What is that?

941
00:52:43,830 --> 00:52:46,950
Oh, that was just that's kind of
a tongue in cheek when that one

942
00:52:46,980 --> 00:52:50,310
that's not a good example that
one of the Parthenon or whatever

943
00:52:50,310 --> 00:52:57,000
it is. Okay, I see it. What the
hell is that? You don't but the

944
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,020
one from Czechoslovakia.

945
00:52:58,050 --> 00:53:01,470
I'm looking at the Peridot plasm
that I'm looking at the Paragon

946
00:53:01,470 --> 00:53:02,460
prairie tower.

947
00:53:03,090 --> 00:53:05,580
Oh, no, you gotta go back a
couple more. There's that that's

948
00:53:05,580 --> 00:53:08,850
a minor one, too. But anyway,
this is just a funny feature. I

949
00:53:08,850 --> 00:53:11,190
thought it was a good idea. I
should have you know, some might

950
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,800
look at it. Oh, man, I should
have done that's a great idea.

951
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,530
Because I think you do an
eyesore of the week. That is,

952
00:53:16,530 --> 00:53:18,540
you know, it's like, it's like
did another good site people

953
00:53:18,540 --> 00:53:21,720
should always check in. And I'd
never check in enough on this

954
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:27,240
site. I don't know why, but it's
English. And english.com. And

955
00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:34,470
the NGRISH. And it's always
hilarious. I mean, it's like,

956
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:39,360
it's essentially some guy who
mocks the misuse of the English

957
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:45,600
language in Asia. With all kinds
of posts of stuff that just just

958
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,280
amazed flabbergasting friend

959
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:54,000
of mine has a retail not as a
wholesale fashion accessory

960
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,760
business in LA. And so they get
a lot of order. A lot of orders

961
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,920
from the Far East now, which is
where all this luxury stuff is

962
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,850
going so to China, etc. And they
had literally written something

963
00:54:05,850 --> 00:54:08,940
and they asked when they could
expect the delivery. And I

964
00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:11,760
thought it was so cute, you know
that? They don't have

965
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,470
spellcheckers. So you know how
Asians will mispronounce ELLs

966
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:19,620
and ours, but they literally put
it in an email. When is the when

967
00:54:19,620 --> 00:54:22,980
can we expect it to Rubery?
Yeah, like,

968
00:54:23,009 --> 00:54:26,789
do they phonetically do it
wrong? Yeah.

969
00:54:26,970 --> 00:54:30,330
Don't they have spell checker?
Use no hooks handle with cake?

970
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,090
Keep fire away. I'm looking at
it now. English.

971
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:37,590
Yeah, English has always got a
couple of good ones and usually

972
00:54:37,590 --> 00:54:39,180
two or three. chuckles

973
00:54:39,689 --> 00:54:44,159
I'm still into the kid from
Brooklyn. Guy that guy so funny.

974
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:49,800
Well, it's pretty much this one
gag is a one trick pony.

975
00:54:49,950 --> 00:54:53,580
Yeah, but he does. He does one
every day. It's worth it. Yeah.

976
00:54:54,090 --> 00:54:58,290
That's amazing that some Yeah, I
used to do those guys used to be

977
00:54:58,290 --> 00:55:00,660
more common in the United States
when we act You had a working

978
00:55:00,660 --> 00:55:01,260
class.

979
00:55:02,370 --> 00:55:05,550
Yeah, that doesn't exist
anymore. The working class

980
00:55:05,610 --> 00:55:07,170
According to the Financial
Times,

981
00:55:07,799 --> 00:55:10,319
I don't think it does either.
And it's a shame because it's

982
00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:15,809
like a got wiped out by a number
of factors but the the white

983
00:55:15,809 --> 00:55:18,269
collar class is one of them
because I remember my dad's

984
00:55:18,269 --> 00:55:22,019
working class when he was
raising us and he always made

985
00:55:22,019 --> 00:55:24,509
more money than the white collar
guys and he always talk about it

986
00:55:25,289 --> 00:55:25,679
working

987
00:55:26,489 --> 00:55:29,849
like it's kind of like a user
generated content def definition

988
00:55:29,849 --> 00:55:32,879
you know, working class you
know, I work so I might not part

989
00:55:32,879 --> 00:55:33,809
of the working class

990
00:55:34,290 --> 00:55:39,000
be a good point. But the working
classes do I think we know what

991
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:41,610
we're talking about people
actually work.

992
00:55:43,380 --> 00:55:50,190
I always my, my understanding or
not, fuck you. My understanding

993
00:55:50,190 --> 00:55:55,890
was working class is like
factory type. Factory truck

994
00:55:55,890 --> 00:56:00,210
driver. That's kind of the
visual I get is that incorrect?

995
00:56:00,210 --> 00:56:00,510
Yeah,

996
00:56:00,510 --> 00:56:06,150
factory truck driver machinists.
You know, I think more

997
00:56:06,660 --> 00:56:09,450
industrial, industrial
industrial construction worker

998
00:56:09,450 --> 00:56:13,350
kind of more or less, that kind
of guys who actually work, as

999
00:56:13,350 --> 00:56:16,110
opposed to guys just sit around
shooting the crap like we do.

1000
00:56:17,220 --> 00:56:19,080
Work hard, John, don't say that.
I've

1001
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,360
worked in all those
environments. I mean, I have

1002
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,410
the, I know what it's like.
Because when I was a kid, you

1003
00:56:25,410 --> 00:56:27,360
could actually get a job when
you were in high school, you'd

1004
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,720
get a work permit because you
couldn't work if you're under 16

1005
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:33,060
or something illegally, because
it was child labour laws, but

1006
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:36,600
you could get a special permit,
which is guarded kind of defeats

1007
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,990
the purpose of it, but you could
get a work permit when you're a

1008
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:43,200
kid. And then you when summer
rolled around, you can go get a

1009
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,670
job, you know, at 15 or even 14
If you really had a lot of

1010
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,200
ambition I used to

1011
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,140
I used to go out in the fields
man, I grew up in farmland, we

1012
00:56:52,140 --> 00:57:00,990
used to go dig up potatoes and
turnips, and I worked in a that

1013
00:57:00,990 --> 00:57:05,190
was actually a pretty fun job in
a in a rose farm that grows

1014
00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:10,470
roses. And I learned a lot about
about roses. And basically we'd

1015
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:13,410
sort the roses, you know, by
differently of you know, the

1016
00:57:13,410 --> 00:57:15,840
first sword, the second sword,
third sword, and then you have

1017
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,540
kind of the trash which is the
fourth or the fifth sword. And

1018
00:57:18,540 --> 00:57:21,870
you you know, the end of your
summer vacation, you'd have a

1019
00:57:21,870 --> 00:57:24,810
lot of money and you realise why
because from the tip of your

1020
00:57:24,810 --> 00:57:28,380
finger, up to your up to your
shoulder, you would be just

1021
00:57:28,380 --> 00:57:34,050
covered in cuts completely
swollen infected.

1022
00:57:35,940 --> 00:57:40,380
Well, when I was I remember we
had in the Fremont area of

1023
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:43,980
Northern California that used to
be in agricultural area, almost

1024
00:57:43,980 --> 00:57:48,720
without, I mean it was apricots
and cherries and the cherry

1025
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:53,460
fields outside of Niles which
are not now non existent. were

1026
00:57:53,490 --> 00:57:55,590
produced some of the finest
cherries I've ever had. And I

1027
00:57:55,590 --> 00:57:58,710
can still remember them to this
day. When I was a little kid we

1028
00:57:58,710 --> 00:58:02,400
used to eat constantly. But
anyway, when I used to have a

1029
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:07,110
thing called you could work in
the apricot orchard picking and

1030
00:58:07,110 --> 00:58:10,170
there was thing called cutting
cuts. And I never did this but

1031
00:58:10,170 --> 00:58:13,620
you I knew what it was you'd
have they have these big apricot

1032
00:58:13,620 --> 00:58:17,040
orchard. And then there was used
to be one right near the the

1033
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,890
biggest one was right off the
word. Whereas now the Thornton

1034
00:58:19,890 --> 00:58:24,390
Avenue exit of a highway 17 or
880 whatever it is down there.

1035
00:58:24,810 --> 00:58:27,690
Anyway, just a huge and they
would people would cut you'd cut

1036
00:58:27,690 --> 00:58:30,120
the apricot in half. And then
you'd lay them out on these

1037
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,270
giant trays. And then the trays
would go into the drying room

1038
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:35,910
and that's how they dried the
apricots it was all natural. I

1039
00:58:35,910 --> 00:58:38,730
think there was some sulphur,
some sulphur, they would burn a

1040
00:58:38,730 --> 00:58:42,060
wick in there or something to
keep it from bugs from getting

1041
00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:46,290
in there. And that's all Tory
was all torn out eventually for

1042
00:58:46,290 --> 00:58:50,820
condos. And then the whole area
now is just all housing and who

1043
00:58:50,820 --> 00:58:53,580
even ended the other great
agricultural area in Northern

1044
00:58:53,580 --> 00:58:56,940
California was the Santa Clara
Valley, which is also they used

1045
00:58:56,940 --> 00:59:01,050
to have some of the greatest
vineyards and cherries and all

1046
00:59:01,050 --> 00:59:06,060
kinds of agricultural products
that were high grade. And that's

1047
00:59:06,060 --> 00:59:09,660
all been wiped out and for
housing. And so now everything's

1048
00:59:09,660 --> 00:59:13,650
just essentially moved to the
hot San Joaquin Sacramento

1049
00:59:13,650 --> 00:59:16,770
Valley, which is just you know,
extremely, you can cook you can

1050
00:59:16,770 --> 00:59:18,900
grow anything there but it's
like you don't have the same

1051
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:23,880
kind of soils and the really
high end quality there you get

1052
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,240
more of just a lot a lot of
stuff. I it's tasteless.

1053
00:59:27,329 --> 00:59:31,349
I'm just browsing through I read
two things on the plane, The

1054
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:35,039
Economist and financial times
the weekend edition. It was

1055
00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:37,619
probably in the Times which he
didn't bring with me. There was

1056
00:59:37,619 --> 00:59:41,249
a list of common fruits and
vegetables but it really focused

1057
00:59:41,249 --> 00:59:44,459
on vegetables and how many
different kinds we used to have.

1058
00:59:45,209 --> 00:59:48,359
Oh, like cucumbers there were
300 different varieties of

1059
00:59:48,359 --> 00:59:49,889
cucumbers now for

1060
00:59:53,370 --> 00:59:56,280
free No wonder we're all you
know, sick.

1061
00:59:56,310 --> 00:59:59,040
Yeah, exactly. We're killing
ourselves.

1062
00:59:59,850 --> 01:00:01,950
Well Well you know the problem
is you have to blame the public

1063
01:00:02,340 --> 01:00:05,850
the public doesn't demand it so
they don't get it the big

1064
01:00:05,850 --> 01:00:08,130
growers say well you know if you
were just gonna buy this one

1065
01:00:08,130 --> 01:00:10,440
cucumber that's a high yield
cucumber Are you making by the

1066
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,380
tonne and picking by machine
that's what we're gonna make

1067
01:00:13,380 --> 01:00:15,870
because we make more money that
way and the public doesn't care

1068
01:00:16,050 --> 01:00:18,120
and the fact of the matter is
the public doesn't care I was

1069
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,700
sitting at a meeting I may have
told this anecdote before by

1070
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:23,400
Mattel it again anyway. Not
everybody listens to the show

1071
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,940
every week. I'm sitting I was
given a speech to the produce

1072
01:00:27,180 --> 01:00:30,090
Distributors Association I'm
really big operation and then

1073
01:00:30,090 --> 01:00:33,210
you know, all these did there
was at a big trade show produce

1074
01:00:33,210 --> 01:00:35,340
distribution. It was amazing.
And this is a paid

1075
01:00:35,370 --> 01:00:38,070
a paid gig. Right? They asked
you to come and speak. Yeah.

1076
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:40,530
What are they expecting? Like
the technology? Yeah,

1077
01:00:40,530 --> 01:00:43,110
some technological technology
angled up, everyone uses

1078
01:00:43,110 --> 01:00:44,700
computers, you need to know
what's going on. You don't

1079
01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:46,980
give a shit. You just like, I
want to meet these guys and make

1080
01:00:46,980 --> 01:00:48,630
some money have a good time
being a noob.

1081
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:50,820
So I could give a shit. I give a
pretty good speech. And this

1082
01:00:50,820 --> 01:00:52,800
actually might speed current
speech that I'm doing now is

1083
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,190
really outstanding. But that'd
be that is ma'am. And then I'm

1084
01:00:56,190 --> 01:00:58,140
having lunch because I was going
to have lunch with the speakers.

1085
01:00:58,380 --> 01:01:00,420
So I've been sitting around a
bunch of these hot shots are all

1086
01:01:00,450 --> 01:01:04,290
big time distributors all like
running multimillion dollar

1087
01:01:04,620 --> 01:01:06,810
distribution companies. And we
got into a discussion about

1088
01:01:06,810 --> 01:01:12,000
potatoes. And it came up in the
conversation that you know,

1089
01:01:12,030 --> 01:01:15,270
there's tasteless potatoes that
we eat, compared to some of

1090
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:17,220
these, you know, really wild.
But then I talked about my

1091
01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:19,800
experiences in Peru where I was
confronted with the hands on

1092
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,120
like, 5000 kinds of potatoes,
because that's where the potato

1093
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,750
came from. And they eat them
all. But it's kind of

1094
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:32,640
fascinating. The way they get to
the end of the story that the

1095
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,890
thing that came up in the
conversation is that these guys

1096
01:01:34,890 --> 01:01:39,720
would love to sell and
distribute more interesting

1097
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,990
products. But the American
public wants one thing and one

1098
01:01:42,990 --> 01:01:46,950
thing only cheap, cheap, cheap,
cheap, and they said the only

1099
01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:50,670
country that's that comes close
to being as bad as Americans

1100
01:01:50,670 --> 01:01:52,800
were just one day like you want
to get a bunch of care in

1101
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,720
Scotland. No, it turns out to be
Germany, really. They said the

1102
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,540
Germans are just as bad almost
as bad with the cheap, cheap,

1103
01:02:00,540 --> 01:02:03,780
cheaply. We don't want the
variety we want cheap. We want

1104
01:02:03,780 --> 01:02:06,210
them the cheapest carrots we can
get we want the cheapest

1105
01:02:06,210 --> 01:02:09,240
potatoes we can get. We want the
cheapest, you know lettuce we

1106
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:09,780
can get

1107
01:02:09,809 --> 01:02:13,379
you know, I'm thinking John that
the Amish and even these guys

1108
01:02:13,379 --> 01:02:16,709
these polygamist you know, had
that compound going and, you

1109
01:02:16,709 --> 01:02:19,589
know, we're kind of in their own
self contained separatist world

1110
01:02:19,589 --> 01:02:22,439
and they might have some they
might have a good idea there.

1111
01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:25,140
Yeah, they probably do.

1112
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,420
And I gotta tell you, by the
way, those women those

1113
01:02:27,420 --> 01:02:30,240
polygamist women, which is just
the way that being described

1114
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:35,100
everywhere, polygamist women I
think it's hot man the clothes

1115
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:38,250
they have on I love that. I love
that frontier of that kind of

1116
01:02:38,250 --> 01:02:41,700
like Laura Ingalls, you know,
she was hot Little House on the

1117
01:02:41,700 --> 01:02:43,140
Prairie. Remember that number
Laura.

1118
01:02:43,739 --> 01:02:45,509
What the look is, is I love it.

1119
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,960
I love it. By the way. I'm also
a sucker for, for the

1120
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:55,410
headscarves. I love that. I find
that to be incredibly sexy. I

1121
01:02:55,410 --> 01:02:58,380
mean, some women just aren't
sexy. But But But wow,

1122
01:02:58,799 --> 01:03:02,009
you got a huge scandal here.
What's going on with that? That

1123
01:03:02,009 --> 01:03:04,079
polygamy thing because they took
all these kids away from their

1124
01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:06,779
moms for know, what was the
point of that? We don't know

1125
01:03:06,780 --> 01:03:10,050
why we celebrate the pope coming
into the country who runs a

1126
01:03:10,050 --> 01:03:18,810
company of psalmist No, and all
he says we'll do better email

1127
01:03:18,810 --> 01:03:21,450
to Adam Murray at well.

1128
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,000
I'm taking it to the extreme but

1129
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,290
the book came out you know, the
Pope was excoriating that whole

1130
01:03:28,290 --> 01:03:32,100
scene to an extreme and it's you
know they don't the Italians

1131
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:34,920
don't know what to do about the
Americans Yeah, but but

1132
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,700
they took 500 kids away from
their parents. Yeah, no it's

1133
01:03:38,700 --> 01:03:42,600
ridiculous you know that borders
probably on illegal

1134
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:47,880
well there's gonna be a lot of
lawsuits flying. I don't know. I

1135
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,850
don't know what's going on. This
is Texas. This is the same you

1136
01:03:50,850 --> 01:03:54,360
know area they burned down at
this compound in Waco and killed

1137
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,820
a bunch of people for you know,
whatever reason they because

1138
01:03:56,820 --> 01:03:58,380
they felt like it that was
during the Clinton

1139
01:03:58,380 --> 01:04:01,320
administration but Texas seems
to be the you know that I know

1140
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,870
what's wrong with Texas that
they have. They have this

1141
01:04:03,870 --> 01:04:08,940
situation that just continues of
nutty kind of cults, but at the

1142
01:04:08,940 --> 01:04:12,090
same time, there's a murderous
approach toward them. That is

1143
01:04:12,090 --> 01:04:14,010
just doesn't seem like such a
Christian.

1144
01:04:15,420 --> 01:04:19,830
Gun. totin Texas. That's John at
DeVore ak.org.

1145
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:25,740
I always get the Texans if
there's no Texans listening to

1146
01:04:25,740 --> 01:04:26,340
this show.

1147
01:04:27,210 --> 01:04:32,130
Are you kidding me? Dude, that
was a text as lots of text. I'd

1148
01:04:32,130 --> 01:04:33,840
like Texans I like Texas.

1149
01:04:34,230 --> 01:04:36,690
I love Texas. I go there
wherever chance I can I think is

1150
01:04:36,690 --> 01:04:38,550
great. That food's good that
people are nice, but there's

1151
01:04:38,550 --> 01:04:39,540
something wrong with it.

1152
01:04:39,570 --> 01:04:41,880
That's where I did my mass
wedding. I married this 70

1153
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:42,960
couples in Austin.

1154
01:04:43,950 --> 01:04:46,800
That's right. You talked about
that before. Yeah, no, this is a

1155
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:47,580
cute little town.

1156
01:04:48,060 --> 01:04:51,000
So but But getting back to the
original point is damn and we

1157
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,050
are just killing ourselves. We
you know, and we're robbing

1158
01:04:55,050 --> 01:04:58,980
ourselves of all of this
wonderful stuff that that comes

1159
01:04:58,980 --> 01:05:02,190
from other Earth and all the
good stuff that is either not

1160
01:05:02,190 --> 01:05:04,890
being produced anymore or is
illegal.

1161
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,300
You know, that's one of the
things I have to say. I've

1162
01:05:09,300 --> 01:05:13,410
actually now started collecting
the Gordon Ramsay Kitchen

1163
01:05:13,410 --> 01:05:14,910
Nightmare show UK version.

1164
01:05:15,390 --> 01:05:18,210
Oh really? I still like the US
version better but okay, it

1165
01:05:18,210 --> 01:05:18,810
doesn't matter.

1166
01:05:19,380 --> 01:05:23,130
I like Virgin which is wimpy
compared to the UK version. I

1167
01:05:23,130 --> 01:05:26,430
like Gordon Ramsay. I mean he's
if I were a woman, I'd be hot

1168
01:05:26,430 --> 01:05:31,170
for him. He's a very
commandeering but yet sensitive

1169
01:05:31,170 --> 01:05:33,930
guy and he Yeah, I don't know. I
like him. He's cool, man.

1170
01:05:34,110 --> 01:05:37,170
Well, he has what I look at when
I watched that show Kitchen

1171
01:05:37,170 --> 01:05:39,870
Nightmares not as other shows. I
don't care much for but the

1172
01:05:39,870 --> 01:05:42,690
Kitchen Nightmares show. If
you're watching a guy who's in

1173
01:05:42,690 --> 01:05:46,200
the consulting business. Yeah,
exactly. And it's like a you get

1174
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:50,910
to see a consultant at work. And
what he has to go through to get

1175
01:05:50,910 --> 01:05:53,550
anyone to change the basically
the show doesn't change much

1176
01:05:53,550 --> 01:05:56,820
from from Episode Episode. He
goes into a place that guy's all

1177
01:05:56,820 --> 01:05:59,880
screwed up. He won't you know,
he's he's in denial.

1178
01:06:00,750 --> 01:06:03,780
Wait, no, no, no, this is the
format. I'm a student, John.

1179
01:06:03,930 --> 01:06:06,930
First week he goes in, he sits
down and he orders food off the

1180
01:06:06,930 --> 01:06:10,590
menu. Right and right then he
either he always it's always

1181
01:06:10,590 --> 01:06:12,930
crap. I always sometimes he
throws up. Have you ever seen

1182
01:06:12,930 --> 01:06:15,270
one of those episodes? Showing
up a couple of times? Yeah, he

1183
01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:18,330
goes to throw up. And then it
starts and then the owner of the

1184
01:06:18,330 --> 01:06:21,510
restaurant, whoever always has a
chip on his shoulder. He's like,

1185
01:06:21,540 --> 01:06:24,120
Who the hell are you to come and
tell me how to run my business.

1186
01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:28,470
The chef is usually just
completely. What did they say?

1187
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,130
They lost their love of food or
they lost that or they're

1188
01:06:32,130 --> 01:06:36,840
totally incompetent. Or they
really just suck. And he always

1189
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,630
buys him a nice sign and does
the redecoration and then

1190
01:06:40,020 --> 01:06:42,960
you're missing a couple of
little items. Always. There's

1191
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,630
always a little assistant to
somebody else working in the

1192
01:06:45,630 --> 01:06:47,100
kitchen who is a gem?

1193
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:51,030
Oh, yeah, right. Exactly. Who's
gonna step up? Yeah,

1194
01:06:51,060 --> 01:06:53,610
yeah, in fact, is even one show
where he actually does

1195
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,550
restaurant fold. It was one of
the best shows. Once in a while

1196
01:06:56,550 --> 01:06:58,920
he fails, which makes the show
interesting. What I've noticed

1197
01:06:58,920 --> 01:06:59,580
is restaurants

1198
01:06:59,610 --> 01:07:02,310
back anymore. I don't see the
episodes where he goes back

1199
01:07:02,310 --> 01:07:05,220
three months later, they stopped
doing that. No, I've

1200
01:07:05,220 --> 01:07:07,740
been watching and he still does
that. Maybe the US version. They

1201
01:07:07,740 --> 01:07:10,530
don't do it. Oh, I the US
version. I don't watch. But

1202
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,530
anyway, the he's failed a couple
of times. But my favourite one

1203
01:07:13,530 --> 01:07:17,460
was was a restaurant in Paris
that was a vegetarian restaurant

1204
01:07:17,460 --> 01:07:20,820
in Paris, which he thought was
ludicrous. And he had to

1205
01:07:20,820 --> 01:07:21,330
remember,

1206
01:07:21,780 --> 01:07:24,630
it was a veg restaurant in
Paris. I remember this one.

1207
01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:28,080
Yeah. And the girl had a rich
father like a Texan type dude.

1208
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,620
Right with a hat. Everything.
Didn't really want to work.

1209
01:07:31,650 --> 01:07:33,510
Yeah. Yeah. And

1210
01:07:33,540 --> 01:07:36,390
she had like, she called her
girlfriend. Yeah, come on, and

1211
01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:39,210
do some waiting and the girl was
like, I don't want to go and it

1212
01:07:39,210 --> 01:07:39,960
was a mess.

1213
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,370
And the reason the chef was a
Brazilian crackpot crackpots and

1214
01:07:44,370 --> 01:07:48,210
he was a maniac. The whole thing
was absolutely one of the better

1215
01:07:48,210 --> 01:07:51,270
episodes but and he was so
disappointed but but anyway, I

1216
01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:54,060
recommend the show for people
who want to watch it's basically

1217
01:07:54,060 --> 01:07:59,850
a business it's a business
consultancy show that is very

1218
01:07:59,850 --> 01:08:02,790
educational in terms of like,
you know, how do you even though

1219
01:08:02,790 --> 01:08:05,370
it's there's formulas there like
the other formula by the way

1220
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,300
that in the show is that you
always insist that they make

1221
01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:13,890
simple food that is changed
change the menu and the simple

1222
01:08:13,890 --> 01:08:16,650
food that's locally sourced
that's basically the theory and

1223
01:08:16,650 --> 01:08:17,730
then he any breaks

1224
01:08:17,730 --> 01:08:22,800
the plates. You ever seen those?
Or they're too big, they're too

1225
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,070
small. There's too square and he
and then everyone does a plate

1226
01:08:26,070 --> 01:08:28,680
smashing contest adds a good
show, man. He's good.

1227
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,790
So anyway, so he opened up a
place when we were in New York

1228
01:08:32,790 --> 01:08:35,700
last and the Yeah, I

1229
01:08:35,700 --> 01:08:40,290
went I stayed in the hotel at
the London the London Yeah. Did

1230
01:08:40,290 --> 01:08:44,250
you did you know is restaurant
dude booked up until after the

1231
01:08:44,250 --> 01:08:49,650
New Year. Kidding. Not kidding.
We couldn't there's there's in

1232
01:08:49,650 --> 01:08:53,340
that area of the hotel, you have
kind of like a bar, which is you

1233
01:08:53,340 --> 01:08:56,070
know, it does have tables, you
can sit down there. If you're

1234
01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:59,580
lucky. You can get a table. Then
you have the the restaurant

1235
01:08:59,580 --> 01:09:03,330
right in front of that. And then
behind there, there's the call

1236
01:09:03,330 --> 01:09:06,720
of the London proper, and that's
the real restaurant, and it's

1237
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:10,200
booked up until, I mean, I only
inquired I didn't have time to

1238
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,440
eat there anyway, I'm sure that
there's a way to get in. But

1239
01:09:13,470 --> 01:09:17,670
that's what the what the maitre
d said is booked up through the

1240
01:09:17,670 --> 01:09:20,730
through the New Year. Damn, it's
not it's not small, you know, so

1241
01:09:20,730 --> 01:09:21,900
I can I can imagine.

1242
01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:24,810
Yeah, he knows how to make
money. That guy. Hell yeah. I

1243
01:09:24,810 --> 01:09:26,790
mean, he's basically just
started looking at his websites

1244
01:09:26,790 --> 01:09:29,700
and studies. He's actually kind
of as a cool hotel to an

1245
01:09:29,700 --> 01:09:32,550
entrepreneur. Cool. That's the
old that's I didn't realise

1246
01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:35,070
until I was looking it up that
that's the old regal Royal.

1247
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:38,760
Yes, correct. And they've done
it up nice, John, really? It's a

1248
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:39,450
good hotel.

1249
01:09:39,810 --> 01:09:42,420
Well, it was when it was a regal
Royal. It was a good hotel, and

1250
01:09:42,420 --> 01:09:45,300
maybe I guess he got a little
threadbare. But I was at the

1251
01:09:45,300 --> 01:09:48,450
Regal Royal. I used to stay
there all the time. And one time

1252
01:09:48,450 --> 01:09:51,600
we're getting. There's a lot of
New York moments that took place

1253
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,110
in that joint one time I'm done
that used to have a bar that was

1254
01:09:55,110 --> 01:09:59,070
quite popular, which is probably
part of that restaurant now. But

1255
01:09:59,070 --> 01:10:03,060
anyway, the bar went Damn, I'm
in the bar with some PC Magazine

1256
01:10:03,060 --> 01:10:09,810
folks. And this guy was drunk
off his ass singing he had an

1257
01:10:09,810 --> 01:10:13,680
accompanying me he just decided
he wandered up to the there's a

1258
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,160
piano there nobody was playing
it so he brought he started, be

1259
01:10:17,190 --> 01:10:19,740
drug one of his pals over there,
start playing the piano and he

1260
01:10:19,740 --> 01:10:22,800
started singing and then the
piano and then eventually

1261
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,640
started singing acapella. And it
is gorgeous voice but the guy

1262
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,480
was just barely could stand up
and then just grouped. I can see

1263
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:32,310
where it came from. So I said
who is this guy? So what's

1264
01:10:32,310 --> 01:10:36,540
Engelbert? Humperdinck? Oh, way.
Yeah. And so I'm thinking, Oh,

1265
01:10:36,540 --> 01:10:40,680
this is interesting. So we
stayed there till about three in

1266
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,230
the morning. He just kept
singing it was unbelievable. It

1267
01:10:43,230 --> 01:10:46,890
was like a free concert. fent
the guy had a heck of a voice

1268
01:10:46,890 --> 01:10:49,650
had to say and he can acapella
stuff. Stunning.

1269
01:10:50,250 --> 01:10:53,760
What are because he's one of the
big guys like in the Tom Jones

1270
01:10:54,270 --> 01:10:57,330
League. Yeah, that style league
voice

1271
01:10:57,810 --> 01:10:59,700
is big hits Engelbert
Humperdinck.

1272
01:11:00,090 --> 01:11:05,070
That No, who cares, I care. But
I mean, it's just like, you

1273
01:11:05,070 --> 01:11:07,410
know, it was one of those in New
York, you have the what they

1274
01:11:07,410 --> 01:11:09,840
call, especially if you don't
live there as well, even if you

1275
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,050
live there, they called the New
York moments or some screws.

1276
01:11:14,730 --> 01:11:17,520
Yeah, that's true. It happens
all the time. One time I was

1277
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:22,590
walking down. I think it was
park in the NBA shirt comes Mike

1278
01:11:22,620 --> 01:11:30,840
Tyson. And John C. Dvorak flag.
Yeah. Right. So anyway, so he

1279
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:36,990
and he, this guy he had at Lee
had flanking him walking down

1280
01:11:36,990 --> 01:11:38,820
the street, pretty much pushing
anybody out of the way. They

1281
01:11:38,820 --> 01:11:42,870
happen to be on this pretty wide
sidewalk as it is three guys on

1282
01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:46,770
each side of him that were twice
the size he was. And all in

1283
01:11:46,770 --> 01:11:49,800
black leather, just and he had
sunglasses on and they come they

1284
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,380
just come zooming down the
street. I don't know where they

1285
01:11:52,380 --> 01:11:54,540
were headed. I wasn't going to
follow him. But it was like,

1286
01:11:54,540 --> 01:11:57,810
wow, that's what you call your
entourage. You know, because

1287
01:11:57,810 --> 01:12:00,210
other guys just see roaming
around Manhattan. They're just

1288
01:12:00,210 --> 01:12:01,740
by themselves. You don't think
much of it.

1289
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,440
This is what we this is not a
New York moment. John. This is a

1290
01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:09,150
brush with greatness. Fresh with
great. I had a brush with

1291
01:12:09,150 --> 01:12:14,280
greatness on the flight. I had
Dolph Lundgren was sitting two

1292
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:15,570
seasons for me remember him?

1293
01:12:15,990 --> 01:12:17,520
Yeah, he's he's still alive.

1294
01:12:17,670 --> 01:12:23,070
And he looks good. Good. Dudes.
Gotta be 50 And he has 60 Now

1295
01:12:23,070 --> 01:12:26,130
he's not that old. But now he's
dude is me. He's my he's my

1296
01:12:26,130 --> 01:12:30,300
height and he's big man. He's
and he's. He's cut.

1297
01:12:30,750 --> 01:12:33,390
Did you talk to him? Did you say
hi? Hey, dolls?

1298
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:39,960
Yeah, I'm that asshole. Gee,
I've met your ex wife Bridgette

1299
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:46,560
Dreyer Engelbert Humperdinck.
Please release me let go. And

1300
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,500
that's his big cats. The big
one. That's the big one. Be

1301
01:12:49,500 --> 01:12:49,890
careful

1302
01:12:49,890 --> 01:12:51,510
getting one more word into
ASCAP.

1303
01:12:54,060 --> 01:12:57,990
Oh, I heard someone
pontificating in LA. You know,

1304
01:12:57,990 --> 01:13:01,320
Jimmy, I have been Do you know
who that is? No. Jimmy. I have

1305
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,260
been I think he started as a I
don't know if he's always been a

1306
01:13:04,260 --> 01:13:08,070
record producer. But as far as I
know, he he did a lot of the big

1307
01:13:08,850 --> 01:13:13,470
music videos. And in the in the
in the heyday of MTV, he was

1308
01:13:13,470 --> 01:13:17,640
director and he had Interscope
Records I think I think that's

1309
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:23,130
who I'm thinking of anyway, he
runs Warner now with Warner

1310
01:13:23,130 --> 01:13:27,270
records with Doug Morris and
listen to this listen to scheme

1311
01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:30,120
there's they're so desperate
trying to figure out what to do

1312
01:13:30,180 --> 01:13:32,940
and how to make money that their
new scheme

1313
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,360
anyway, stop, stop. Do you
eavesdropped this or did they

1314
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:36,900
tell you

1315
01:13:37,170 --> 01:13:40,890
i was told i i don't feel
comfortable telling you who told

1316
01:13:40,890 --> 01:13:41,640
me but it was so much

1317
01:13:41,850 --> 01:13:45,030
okay go in very very senior in
Hollywood. All right,

1318
01:13:45,330 --> 01:13:51,210
like like top of the fucking I
got it. I got it. I got their

1319
01:13:51,210 --> 01:13:57,720
scheme now. They want to make
music videos that include

1320
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:04,530
advertising. So so they weren't
placement, Smirnoff you know

1321
01:14:04,530 --> 01:14:06,570
they want to do of course it's
all hip hop. That's the only

1322
01:14:06,570 --> 01:14:09,270
videos that are kind of still
being made as they want to do

1323
01:14:09,300 --> 01:14:13,590
you know just all advertising
all liquor, you know, bling,

1324
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:16,890
whatever it is, and that that's
their new business. Or at least

1325
01:14:17,310 --> 01:14:20,070
one of the new ones and I heard
and yeah, and I heard someone

1326
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:22,770
tell me this with you know, of
such stature was such

1327
01:14:22,770 --> 01:14:27,120
conviction. I'm like, Dude, you
know, that's not a good plan.

1328
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,520
That's really not something we
ought to try. I just don't think

1329
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:39,600
that's gonna work. That's crazy.
Oh, there's the anyway, that's

1330
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:40,050
how are they

1331
01:14:40,050 --> 01:14:43,920
gonna work that work the product
placement into the lyrics? Oh,

1332
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:44,100
why

1333
01:14:44,100 --> 01:14:44,670
not?

1334
01:14:45,180 --> 01:14:47,730
Yeah, you might as well go all
the way I'm sure. Well, I'm

1335
01:14:47,730 --> 01:14:50,490
sure that's being done here.
there anyway, that's probably

1336
01:14:50,490 --> 01:14:51,270
already happening.

1337
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,680
Yeah. What was the feast? Like
to see the fee schedule for

1338
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,870
that'd be kind of interesting.
Find someone who had it.

1339
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,320
Well, that's that's the problem.
I have One thinks it's so easy

1340
01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:05,700
advertising, just because Google
can do it with billions and

1341
01:15:05,700 --> 01:15:10,680
billions of eyeballs and clicks
with very low rent advertising.

1342
01:15:10,710 --> 01:15:14,340
You know, no one has really done
advertising successfully online,

1343
01:15:14,340 --> 01:15:18,480
not big brand advertising yet.
For that new company, I hear

1344
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:19,740
about that MVNO thing.

1345
01:15:20,069 --> 01:15:23,129
And bvoc operation. They know
what they're doing. Yeah. So

1346
01:15:23,129 --> 01:15:28,619
what? So what would happen? You
think if, if online, never got

1347
01:15:28,619 --> 01:15:34,589
beyond what Google's doing? Wow,
all these newspapers and all

1348
01:15:34,589 --> 01:15:36,539
these other people doing all
this different kind of stuff all

1349
01:15:36,539 --> 01:15:39,539
moving to online? I mean, I know
that they're actually making a

1350
01:15:39,539 --> 01:15:43,499
profit at PC magazine online. So
I mean, it's, you can do it to a

1351
01:15:43,499 --> 01:15:47,249
point, but what if it just What
if where we are right now, is

1352
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:51,240
it? I don't think that okay,
I'll answer that. I gotta answer

1353
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,090
two ways. First of all, I don't
believe that that scenario can

1354
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:58,890
ever play out because it's just
about the, the, we just have to

1355
01:15:58,890 --> 01:16:03,090
all agree on numbers. You know,
what's the circulation of the

1356
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,350
New York Times a million?

1357
01:16:06,150 --> 01:16:09,150
You know, I use I should know
that number. I think it's more

1358
01:16:09,150 --> 01:16:11,460
than more than that. It gets
like two and a half, right? I

1359
01:16:11,460 --> 01:16:12,120
don't know. Okay,

1360
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,330
well, sure. Wall Street Journal
now is saying it's like it's

1361
01:16:15,330 --> 01:16:17,820
going to be 100,000 to 2
million. Let's just say that,

1362
01:16:18,270 --> 01:16:22,380
you know, Geek beef geek brief
TV does 2 million a month

1363
01:16:22,380 --> 01:16:29,370
easily, you know, and sometimes
10 times that. You know, so I

1364
01:16:29,370 --> 01:16:33,390
just don't see how the dollars
always follow audience. Always,

1365
01:16:33,390 --> 01:16:35,970
always always. So I don't think
your scenario is going to play

1366
01:16:35,970 --> 01:16:42,960
out however. Should that happen?
I just gotta go shoot myself.

1367
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,320
Well, no, we don't want that.
Yeah.

1368
01:16:47,159 --> 01:16:51,059
I can't imagine that. That would
that would be that just, I can't

1369
01:16:51,059 --> 01:16:53,819
even come up with a scenario.
What do you think? What What is

1370
01:16:53,819 --> 01:16:55,139
your thought if this was it?

1371
01:16:56,340 --> 01:16:59,730
Again, I'm just looking at the
editor and publisher here for

1372
01:16:59,730 --> 01:17:04,410
some circ numbers. What I you
know, it's one of those things,

1373
01:17:04,710 --> 01:17:07,530
you know, people don't realise
it so experimental, you know,

1374
01:17:07,530 --> 01:17:09,540
just like the Twitter thing,
which I don't want to talk

1375
01:17:09,540 --> 01:17:13,740
about. But the fact is, is
there's these things these these

1376
01:17:13,740 --> 01:17:16,500
initiatives and these crazy
ideas keep cropping up left and

1377
01:17:16,500 --> 01:17:19,980
right and left and right that
are always end up looking for I

1378
01:17:19,980 --> 01:17:24,240
mean, they get the eyeballs can
be had, but then monetizing them

1379
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:25,710
is not necessarily

1380
01:17:25,890 --> 01:17:28,200
you still have to do a sales
job. You're gonna have great

1381
01:17:28,230 --> 01:17:31,080
fish and the fish market you
still got to sell it you still

1382
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,180
you know, you still gotta move
product. You know, you still

1383
01:17:33,180 --> 01:17:36,900
need Gordon Ramsay to straighten
you out in your restaurant. You

1384
01:17:36,900 --> 01:17:39,570
know, MTV 20 years ago, care in

1385
01:17:39,570 --> 01:17:45,420
Kansas 1.2 1.037 is 1 million
civilians actor so the Street

1386
01:17:45,420 --> 01:17:48,330
Journal's to and the USA Today.
2.2. So listen

1387
01:17:48,330 --> 01:17:52,500
to us. So when when MTV started
in 1981, I didn't get there

1388
01:17:52,500 --> 01:17:58,620
until mid 80s. The cable was
advertisers did not know what to

1389
01:17:58,620 --> 01:18:00,660
do with it. It wasn't
television. I mean, that's not

1390
01:18:00,660 --> 01:18:03,690
TV. And it's hard for people to
realise that that was the

1391
01:18:03,690 --> 01:18:06,960
thinking at the time. But I
remember doing the pitches to

1392
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:11,100
Budweiser. We'd record pitches
for them. Because we desperately

1393
01:18:11,100 --> 01:18:15,030
wanted Budweiser to advertise on
the channel. And that's how

1394
01:18:15,930 --> 01:18:20,790
Spring Break MTV spring break in
the beach house. Came to be not

1395
01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:25,020
because MTV said hey, you know
what's a great idea? Let's let's

1396
01:18:25,020 --> 01:18:28,590
go do spring break. And we'll
make that into a tentpole

1397
01:18:28,590 --> 01:18:31,110
promotion every year. Now it's
because they were trying to get

1398
01:18:31,110 --> 01:18:34,410
Budweiser. And if you look at
some of that footage, why they

1399
01:18:34,410 --> 01:18:36,990
may have changed maybe a
different beer brand now, but

1400
01:18:36,990 --> 01:18:41,400
all every single shot is filled
with either a vodka brand or

1401
01:18:41,430 --> 01:18:44,940
some other type of alcoholic
beverage. But the ratings for

1402
01:18:44,940 --> 01:18:51,870
MTV at the time, even when I was
there was 0.4 On average, which

1403
01:18:51,870 --> 01:18:57,450
means that about three 400,000
People are watching MTV at any

1404
01:18:57,450 --> 01:19:01,290
given moment. And today, that
rating is still between 0.4 and

1405
01:19:01,290 --> 01:19:07,470
0.6. It's not a lot of people in
aggregate and cume. Yeah. And

1406
01:19:07,470 --> 01:19:10,380
the brand of course, is is
phenomenal, but it's just not a

1407
01:19:10,380 --> 01:19:14,730
lot of people that are watching.
And people have this idea. You

1408
01:19:14,730 --> 01:19:18,300
know, consumers have this idea
that, you know, everyone watches

1409
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:21,600
MTV, it's huge. But now the
ratings just aren't there. In

1410
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,590
fact, that's why MTV, MTV is not
stupid. They were brilliant,

1411
01:19:25,590 --> 01:19:28,020
although they alienated their
their core audience. But this

1412
01:19:28,020 --> 01:19:31,800
always happens in you know,
it'll happen in our in our form

1413
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:35,790
of media as well. It's already
happening. MTV said, Well, wait

1414
01:19:35,790 --> 01:19:37,620
a minute, you know, these
videos, they're being

1415
01:19:37,620 --> 01:19:41,190
commoditized ve T which Viacom
later bought for probably this

1416
01:19:41,190 --> 01:19:44,130
very reason they were getting
the Michael Jackson world

1417
01:19:44,130 --> 01:19:47,880
planetary premieres. So, you
know, they weren't getting the

1418
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,730
product. They they, you know,
they weren't necessarily the

1419
01:19:50,730 --> 01:19:54,600
only place where you could watch
music videos on television. And

1420
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,330
they thought to themselves, you
know, what we really need to do

1421
01:19:57,330 --> 01:20:00,240
is if only we could make like a
game show, but what We really

1422
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,790
don't have the money for a game
show. So let's do this. Let's

1423
01:20:02,820 --> 01:20:05,820
throw some Barco loungers in the
corner, let's get a cute girl to

1424
01:20:05,820 --> 01:20:09,060
do dumb prizes, and we'll get a
dorky host and we'll call it

1425
01:20:09,060 --> 01:20:13,680
remote control and boom, the
rating went up to 1.0. And they

1426
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,770
never looked back. That's why
you that's why MTV is what it is

1427
01:20:16,770 --> 01:20:24,570
today. 30 minute, you know,
reality based shows with no

1428
01:20:24,570 --> 01:20:27,870
audience, right? So yeah, so the

1429
01:20:28,050 --> 01:20:30,450
show a lot of these, you know, I
watched the soup, which is

1430
01:20:30,450 --> 01:20:34,680
another great show a fantastic
show. And they go over all these

1431
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,720
reality shows, you don't have to
watch him because I have to do

1432
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,950
is watch Joel McHale. He'll
bring you up to speed on all

1433
01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:43,770
these things. But there's so
many of these reality shows us

1434
01:20:43,770 --> 01:20:47,220
like us just like jaw dropping.
I mean, you never heard of half

1435
01:20:47,220 --> 01:20:50,040
of them. And no, I think we
should

1436
01:20:50,340 --> 01:20:53,280
stop calling them reality shows
and just call them what they are

1437
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,740
television. That's what
television is gonna be from now

1438
01:20:55,740 --> 01:20:58,680
on. That is the genre is the
genre. Now

1439
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,320
that's pretty depressing. Well,

1440
01:21:01,350 --> 01:21:04,680
look, dude, I watched a C span.
And luckily, we have some of

1441
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,950
that. But why is it depressing,
I get my media fill online, I

1442
01:21:07,950 --> 01:21:08,250
like

1443
01:21:08,250 --> 01:21:12,750
to watch a good drama or a good
comedy that's well written. Once

1444
01:21:12,750 --> 01:21:13,710
in a while,

1445
01:21:13,740 --> 01:21:16,110
well, it's kind of getting too
expensive.

1446
01:21:16,770 --> 01:21:20,760
So you'll have reminding me of
this transition that took place

1447
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,700
in radio, because if you
remember, you don't remember I

1448
01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:25,710
don't remember, we weren't
really listening to radio in the

1449
01:21:25,710 --> 01:21:30,030
30 cents we weren't born. But
the radio we used, but I've

1450
01:21:30,030 --> 01:21:33,570
collected it. And radio used to
be a big spy where people it was

1451
01:21:33,630 --> 01:21:36,810
good dramas, and well written
scripts and a lot of acting. And

1452
01:21:36,810 --> 01:21:39,510
then when television came along,
you know, it just basically died

1453
01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:41,760
and became you know, spinning
music because somebody said,

1454
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,440
Well, you know, you can make as
much money spinning these

1455
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:46,770
records, as you can, you know,
going through all this expensive

1456
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,070
producing real, you know, real
dramas in any way everything's

1457
01:21:50,070 --> 01:21:52,890
going to TV. So everything
transitioned. And then that even

1458
01:21:52,890 --> 01:21:57,570
deteriorated to now which is
essentially chatterboxes on the

1459
01:21:57,570 --> 01:22:01,830
radio and especially on am that
can talk for three hours a day.

1460
01:22:01,860 --> 01:22:02,220
That's what

1461
01:22:02,220 --> 01:22:05,940
I like about the BBC, they still
have radio dramas here. They

1462
01:22:05,940 --> 01:22:09,030
have the arches, which has been
running for, I don't know, 50

1463
01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:13,080
years or whatever, ongoing radio
drama very, and people still

1464
01:22:13,110 --> 01:22:16,620
people out here, listen to the
wireless, you know, they

1465
01:22:16,620 --> 01:22:20,910
literally just listened to they
call it the wireless. And it's

1466
01:22:20,910 --> 01:22:25,380
really good. But, you know,
there's BBC so it's being paid

1467
01:22:25,380 --> 01:22:29,250
from public funds. Everyone gets
a bill each yard kind of gets a

1468
01:22:29,250 --> 01:22:31,860
bill but yeah, you have to pay
for it individually outside of

1469
01:22:31,860 --> 01:22:36,420
your taxes. And and, and you're
getting good good stuff

1470
01:22:36,420 --> 01:22:39,390
delivered for it. It doesn't
it's not commercially viable.

1471
01:22:41,310 --> 01:22:43,320
Yeah, I guess there's an
advantage of sometimes have the

1472
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,700
government involvement media a
little bit. But the point, yeah,

1473
01:22:47,730 --> 01:22:50,100
the point is, is that if
television deteriorates, and

1474
01:22:50,100 --> 01:22:54,810
nothing more than these
unscripted shows, you know, us

1475
01:22:54,810 --> 01:22:59,040
just gonna see I mean, did you
watch that crap, John?

1476
01:22:59,910 --> 01:23:03,720
First of all, lots of the same
people who don't give a rat's

1477
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:07,530
ass if they only have two
cucumbers, varieties versus 300,

1478
01:23:07,530 --> 01:23:09,150
they're the ones who are
watching that and they're

1479
01:23:09,150 --> 01:23:12,180
watching it in droves, just like
you look up the search numbers,

1480
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,510
I know, rating numbers, and
people are watching this, it's

1481
01:23:15,510 --> 01:23:20,940
relatively inexpensive to
produce. And, you know, it's a

1482
01:23:20,940 --> 01:23:25,560
simple equation, the audience is
leaving television is no longer

1483
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:30,420
the cultural epicentre of, of
what's going on in the world.

1484
01:23:30,420 --> 01:23:33,870
It's the it's the latest show
that you that you've seen, or

1485
01:23:33,900 --> 01:23:36,450
you know, it's the kid from
Brooklyn and that's the that's

1486
01:23:36,450 --> 01:23:39,090
the cultural conversation is
taking place through im and

1487
01:23:39,090 --> 01:23:43,050
email and social networks. And
the odd is just people are

1488
01:23:43,050 --> 01:23:46,230
spending more time doing
something else. So the audience

1489
01:23:46,230 --> 01:23:49,020
is going away and that's a
direct equation to how much

1490
01:23:49,020 --> 01:23:53,040
money these guys can ask for a
32nd spot so I just don't see

1491
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:58,830
how the economics of it will
work. You know, it's a if a show

1492
01:23:58,830 --> 01:24:04,290
cost 50 grand per episode to
produce versus you know, for for

1493
01:24:04,290 --> 01:24:10,020
reality based show versus last
which is to two to $3 million in

1494
01:24:10,020 --> 01:24:14,790
episode and you and you get the
same type of ratings you know

1495
01:24:14,790 --> 01:24:17,760
last is not getting Dancing with
the Stars numbers I'll have you

1496
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:23,340
know, it does good right not
that good. Glad gladiators kick

1497
01:24:23,340 --> 01:24:29,400
loss ass gladiators dude. So
that's the economics of it. So

1498
01:24:29,430 --> 01:24:33,360
that's what I love about online
because you can still kind of

1499
01:24:33,870 --> 01:24:40,200
create something worth watching
the message can still be true

1500
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,260
even though you may not have all
of the high value productions of

1501
01:24:43,260 --> 01:24:46,140
the studio but even that I don't
think is that necessary anymore.

1502
01:24:46,770 --> 01:24:50,610
So that's where we got to get it
thinks. You don't think I

1503
01:24:50,610 --> 01:24:52,050
don't like the sounds of this?

1504
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,760
Well, I don't know much John and
in this conversation, I love

1505
01:24:56,790 --> 01:25:01,020
looking at the waveforms of the
recording. software because you

1506
01:25:01,020 --> 01:25:04,800
basically see, your track is all
waveform and you only see me

1507
01:25:05,670 --> 01:25:08,550
bumping once in a while. But
this I actually know something

1508
01:25:08,550 --> 01:25:09,030
about.

1509
01:25:09,330 --> 01:25:12,480
Yeah, I know you do, but I
don't. I'm not an ignorant

1510
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:19,020
person regarding this particular
category of discussion myself,

1511
01:25:19,020 --> 01:25:23,880
but I'm not like you, you seem
to be like happy about it. I

1512
01:25:23,940 --> 01:25:25,410
find the whole thing depressing.

1513
01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:27,840
What difference does it make,
it's just a different box where

1514
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:29,220
you watch it. Now I'm

1515
01:25:29,220 --> 01:25:32,610
talking about the overall effect
on the culture. I mean, having a

1516
01:25:32,610 --> 01:25:35,040
bunch of people watching
gladiator which should actually

1517
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:38,610
be banned from the air as far as
I'm concerned. And with the

1518
01:25:38,610 --> 01:25:41,670
effect on the culture, it's like
the Jerry Springer show, I mean,

1519
01:25:41,670 --> 01:25:44,970
now affected now we're more
Povich which is, which became a

1520
01:25:44,970 --> 01:25:47,430
clone of the Jerry Springer
show, I didn't realise it until

1521
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:51,240
recently when I watched it. And
these shows, besides being

1522
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:56,610
somewhat fake, are essentially
just the public's not dumb, dumb

1523
01:25:56,610 --> 01:25:59,340
enough. I mean, just like we
dumbed down the public anyway,

1524
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,610
with the two cucumbers. And you
know, they don't want to they

1525
01:26:02,610 --> 01:26:05,220
don't have any sense about
anything. They're already

1526
01:26:05,220 --> 01:26:08,580
stupefied. And then we just make
it worse with this stuff and

1527
01:26:08,580 --> 01:26:11,070
then we just take advantage of
them by advertising to these

1528
01:26:11,070 --> 01:26:13,800
Boneheads. And then the
situation gets worse and worse

1529
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,440
and worse. And then when all
hell breaks loose for one reason

1530
01:26:16,440 --> 01:26:19,410
or another and the public
doesn't realise that we that the

1531
01:26:19,410 --> 01:26:21,420
government's made a big mistake
because they don't they're too

1532
01:26:21,420 --> 01:26:24,420
busy watching gladiators to
worry about anything or Britney

1533
01:26:24,420 --> 01:26:27,060
what she's up to, and then we
bitch and moan about the public

1534
01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:30,300
being a bunch of Boneheads. Hey,
whose fault is it? Okay, it's

1535
01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:32,040
your fault Adam curry.

1536
01:26:32,070 --> 01:26:36,930
Okay, well, it's not because I
don't live there. I don't

1537
01:26:36,930 --> 01:26:41,100
contribute. No, no, no, no, no,
listen, banana, but here's what

1538
01:26:41,100 --> 01:26:45,990
I will say. I absolutely agree
on the cultural side. Again,

1539
01:26:46,020 --> 01:26:48,930
I'll say the actual cultural
conversation is no longer really

1540
01:26:48,930 --> 01:26:52,200
taking place on television but
with the system set up in the

1541
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,390
United Kingdom This is why it
doesn't bother me that much.

1542
01:26:54,390 --> 01:26:59,790
Because yes, there's plenty of
reality based crap programming

1543
01:26:59,790 --> 01:27:03,210
I've sky plus and a record I
don't have to watch it when I

1544
01:27:03,210 --> 01:27:07,590
when I want is on it records it
automatically. And there's 900

1545
01:27:07,590 --> 01:27:13,290
channels, but there is some
fantastic programming on BBC

1546
01:27:13,650 --> 01:27:18,300
absolutely culturally valid
really well thought out awesome

1547
01:27:18,300 --> 01:27:22,050
stuff being made. And that's
purely because of the system so

1548
01:27:22,710 --> 01:27:25,890
it's a non commercial system or
kind of not there's a lot of

1549
01:27:25,890 --> 01:27:30,450
commercialism going on in it but
if we if you really are sad then

1550
01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:35,850
why don't we set it up that way?
Why don't we change PBS to

1551
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:40,260
become you know, link that into
the ownership of the television

1552
01:27:40,530 --> 01:27:42,480
you know, just like you're
trying to do the music tax if

1553
01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:45,000
you have a computer than you'll
pay tax if you if you want some

1554
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:50,100
good television you got a TV you
pay 150 bucks a year and then

1555
01:27:50,370 --> 01:27:51,960
and we'll make good programming
for you

1556
01:27:52,020 --> 01:27:55,200
well you know, they actually the
BBS does still we still have no

1557
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,710
va in front line and American
Express these are really well

1558
01:27:58,710 --> 01:28:01,680
done shows I have to say and
they're obviously not cheap, but

1559
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:01,890
they're you

1560
01:28:02,460 --> 01:28:06,360
know, this is bullshit. They're
all sponsored by big

1561
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:10,080
conglomerates there's it's a
very commercial industry that's

1562
01:28:10,140 --> 01:28:13,110
it's cutthroat man. These are
independent independent

1563
01:28:13,110 --> 01:28:17,190
producers. Who are you know, who
are selling their stuff to PBS?

1564
01:28:17,430 --> 01:28:19,770
It's not it doesn't even come
close.

1565
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,320
Okay, you mean because it's all
sponsored by Archer, Midlands

1566
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,050
McDaniels whatever the name of
those guys are. They're the

1567
01:28:28,470 --> 01:28:31,470
Monsanto or these other people.
This will you ever do a report

1568
01:28:31,470 --> 01:28:35,790
on them? Yeah. Or Gee, yeah,
nice. Yeah, it bothers me a

1569
01:28:35,790 --> 01:28:38,790
little bit. Yeah. No, I'm
totally upset by the fact that

1570
01:28:38,790 --> 01:28:39,780
GE so

1571
01:28:40,350 --> 01:28:43,410
here it is. You've seen Top Gear
right? We've discussed this

1572
01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:48,870
you've seen Top Gear? Yeah. Top
Gear could not exist in any type

1573
01:28:48,870 --> 01:28:52,230
of sponsorship or advertising
model because you know,

1574
01:28:52,230 --> 01:28:56,250
somewhere along the line Toyota
is going to want to advertise on

1575
01:28:56,250 --> 01:28:59,610
the station and the it just
won't happen because those those

1576
01:28:59,610 --> 01:29:03,360
guys over a Top Gear crashed one
intuitive you know, a jet engine

1577
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:06,420
these guys do all kinds of weird
shit or they chopped it in half

1578
01:29:06,420 --> 01:29:09,360
and tried to make it into a
desert you know crossing limo.

1579
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:14,370
So it would never ever happened.
So it's that's destroying the

1580
01:29:14,370 --> 01:29:18,360
culture is not having that type
of media outlet that is

1581
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:21,840
subsidised literally by the
users.

1582
01:29:22,260 --> 01:29:25,320
Yeah, so I'm not you got me on
that one. I'm not gonna I can't

1583
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,830
argue against this point. So I'm
not going to try. But I will say

1584
01:29:28,830 --> 01:29:31,650
that it probably would be the
model that we should use here at

1585
01:29:31,650 --> 01:29:32,460
no agenda.

1586
01:29:34,140 --> 01:29:35,970
While he's not exactly what
we're doing

1587
01:29:36,810 --> 01:29:38,970
well, no, I'm talking about what
we're doing it on our own guy.

1588
01:29:38,970 --> 01:29:39,750
Oh, you

1589
01:29:39,750 --> 01:29:43,170
mean people should pay us $150 a
year? Yeah, I think that's fine

1590
01:29:43,170 --> 01:29:43,680
plan.

1591
01:29:44,820 --> 01:29:47,550
But they won't. There's too much
free material out there. That's

1592
01:29:47,550 --> 01:29:49,860
the problem. This is an
interesting dilemma. Because who

1593
01:29:49,860 --> 01:29:54,480
is going to pay the 150 like for
the TV or the news or one show?

1594
01:29:54,510 --> 01:29:58,200
Here's what kills me John.
Here's what kills me. You How

1595
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,840
long is your speech this new
killer speech you Have the new

1596
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:02,190
presentation. How long is that?

1597
01:30:02,250 --> 01:30:06,900
It's 40. It's 45 to 55 minutes,
depending on how much time they

1598
01:30:06,900 --> 01:30:07,320
give me. Do

1599
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,750
you do q&a after that? Or and
you'd never do q&a?

1600
01:30:09,780 --> 01:30:13,230
Depends. I do q&a Sometimes. You
know, it's depends on what they

1601
01:30:13,230 --> 01:30:15,720
want. And you have to customise
it right, generally. So

1602
01:30:15,930 --> 01:30:19,050
there are organisations, there
are companies, I'm sure that

1603
01:30:19,050 --> 01:30:23,100
there's upstanding and some even
maybe nonprofits who, of course,

1604
01:30:23,130 --> 01:30:25,620
will pay you you don't have to
be nonprofit for that. But

1605
01:30:25,620 --> 01:30:28,710
really upstanding, interesting
companies who are paying you I'm

1606
01:30:28,710 --> 01:30:33,690
sure anywhere between five and
$50,000 to go to present. And

1607
01:30:33,690 --> 01:30:39,270
here you are getting the same
John C. Dvorak for free. With

1608
01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:41,280
the same killer material

1609
01:30:42,090 --> 01:30:46,650
was not the same material
actually. It's just two to two

1610
01:30:46,650 --> 01:30:49,650
guys. Work and Work with me here
to work with. Okay, I'm sorry.

1611
01:30:49,650 --> 01:30:52,980
Yeah, absolutely. It's free. Go
on.

1612
01:30:53,010 --> 01:30:56,160
So I guess my point is, this is
not out there. This is a very

1613
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,460
valuable property. This you
don't think that you can get

1614
01:30:59,490 --> 01:31:03,000
this? Hey, our numbers show it
man. If you you do actually have

1615
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,190
the stats, I sent you a
screenshot. You see how this

1616
01:31:05,190 --> 01:31:06,060
shit is building?

1617
01:31:06,450 --> 01:31:09,300
Yeah, we're getting about we
have like something like 10,000

1618
01:31:09,300 --> 01:31:13,890
core listeners and has gone up I
guess to 12 is gonna go to 1520.

1619
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:18,750
No, we're not the three episodes
ago, hit 25,000.

1620
01:31:20,010 --> 01:31:24,390
For one episode, yeah. Oh, yeah.
That's not bad. That's good.

1621
01:31:24,390 --> 01:31:26,730
That's it, there's money there,
we should be able to monetize

1622
01:31:26,730 --> 01:31:26,940
that.

1623
01:31:27,690 --> 01:31:33,870
Well, so here's how it works.
25,000 is 25 CPM units. Right?

1624
01:31:33,900 --> 01:31:38,820
Audio, we could probably sell
that for $20. So what's 20 times

1625
01:31:38,820 --> 01:31:39,720
25?

1626
01:31:41,010 --> 01:31:42,540
That's 500 bucks.

1627
01:31:42,930 --> 01:31:48,450
So there you go, my friend. 500
bucks per episode. That's only

1628
01:31:48,450 --> 01:31:52,230
if we sell one ad, of course, if
we sell if we do two ad units,

1629
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:56,190
that it's 1000 bucks. See how
all right. We don't want

1630
01:31:56,190 --> 01:31:58,440
to put a bunch of ads in the
shoulder if this shows in our

1631
01:31:58,440 --> 01:32:02,220
app, which it tends to be, which
it is by putting we could put in

1632
01:32:02,220 --> 01:32:05,640
three ads? No, it would ruin the
show?

1633
01:32:05,670 --> 01:32:08,610
Of course it would. Of course it
would. But I'm just saying so

1634
01:32:09,180 --> 01:32:12,960
this is this is the big
actually, you know, that's how

1635
01:32:13,590 --> 01:32:17,130
all these other audio shows it
they're kicking ass making so

1636
01:32:17,130 --> 01:32:20,220
much money because their
audiences are so loyal, that

1637
01:32:20,220 --> 01:32:23,850
they're able to sell them stuff.
You know, everyone's gonna buy a

1638
01:32:23,850 --> 01:32:27,210
domain name eventually. So of
course, I'm gonna use Cali Lewis

1639
01:32:27,210 --> 01:32:32,010
his code, you know, and and
that's how a lot of money is

1640
01:32:32,010 --> 01:32:36,240
made with without this whole
stupid CPM model. You know,

1641
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:40,380
it's, it's very interesting to
me this is I really love it. You

1642
01:32:40,380 --> 01:32:43,080
know, that's what the E Music
thing is we did with Nokia,

1643
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:43,320
where

1644
01:32:43,500 --> 01:32:45,510
we are right now I understand
that. But you know, the thing

1645
01:32:45,510 --> 01:32:50,160
that I still see missing from
the equation is shows that are

1646
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:54,540
not sponsored, not, you know,
trying to get people to buy

1647
01:32:54,540 --> 01:32:58,530
stuff. But in the old fashion,
although this is a little bit of

1648
01:32:58,530 --> 01:33:02,430
a PBS model underwritten. So in
other words, we get General

1649
01:33:02,430 --> 01:33:06,270
Electric that just give us
$15,000 To do the show, and we

1650
01:33:06,270 --> 01:33:08,580
just did General Electric pay
for the show. Yeah, but, you

1651
01:33:08,580 --> 01:33:11,970
know, the PBS people say, Well,
you know, then we won't say

1652
01:33:11,970 --> 01:33:13,950
anything bad about General
Electric. Well, I don't know

1653
01:33:13,950 --> 01:33:15,990
what to say about General
Electric anyway.

1654
01:33:16,380 --> 01:33:19,830
But it'll be General Electric.
It could be NBC it could be

1655
01:33:19,830 --> 01:33:20,130
could be

1656
01:33:20,130 --> 01:33:23,070
a foundation or it could be the
Katherine and John div. Arthur

1657
01:33:23,070 --> 01:33:25,590
Vining you know, I mean, it
could be anything that I'd take.

1658
01:33:26,940 --> 01:33:31,230
I take that. Ma'am, and no, no,
that would be okay. We need a

1659
01:33:31,230 --> 01:33:34,710
grantsmanship person though.
There's an expertise getting

1660
01:33:34,710 --> 01:33:38,070
that kind of money that neither
one of us have, and probably

1661
01:33:38,070 --> 01:33:41,790
will never obtain. I know it's
you could probably do a mediocre

1662
01:33:41,790 --> 01:33:43,410
job but there's probably
somebody out there listen to the

1663
01:33:43,410 --> 01:33:47,400
show and as I could get that
money in a minute, boneheads and

1664
01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:49,410
you know, so we're waiting to
hear from them.

1665
01:33:50,340 --> 01:33:57,960
Yeah, Damn straight.
adam@gmail.com Hello. I finally

1666
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:01,230
fix my curry.com email after
like being on the fritz for a

1667
01:34:01,230 --> 01:34:02,130
year and a half.

1668
01:34:02,940 --> 01:34:04,230
Did you get swamped in mail?

1669
01:34:04,770 --> 01:34:07,080
That's a long story is not that
interesting? So in

1670
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,470
other words, if somebody said
Adam to curry to adam@curry.com,

1671
01:34:10,470 --> 01:34:11,460
they would just die.

1672
01:34:11,700 --> 01:34:16,410
No, you'd get an email sent back
that most people mistake for

1673
01:34:16,410 --> 01:34:19,650
your mailbox being full but
actually if you read the and I

1674
01:34:19,650 --> 01:34:22,680
find that people never ever read
bounced messages and boy you can

1675
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,770
learn quite a bit from them. If
you took three seconds you lazy

1676
01:34:25,770 --> 01:34:30,810
pricks. Same with RMS error
dialogues just read it for a

1677
01:34:30,810 --> 01:34:34,020
second before you start saying
you don't get it. You'll see

1678
01:34:34,020 --> 01:34:39,390
that it says has exceeded
bandwidth. That's that's why it

1679
01:34:39,390 --> 01:34:43,140
was being being stopped and
there's a whole explanation for

1680
01:34:43,140 --> 01:34:48,510
it but basically the curry.com
domain name and this is

1681
01:34:48,510 --> 01:34:50,730
interesting when you have when
you're not just looking at your

1682
01:34:50,820 --> 01:34:53,610
your personal email account when
you when you see the amount of

1683
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:57,960
email that that will be coming
in to curry.com and then just

1684
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:02,010
try anything right if you send
it to them Uh, you know, web

1685
01:35:02,010 --> 01:35:07,320
dude@curry.com The way it was
set up, it would actually go in

1686
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:11,160
it would go to an administrator
account. So the spam, it was

1687
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:14,700
terabytes, just fucking
terabytes. And yeah, the issue

1688
01:35:14,700 --> 01:35:17,070
was that that was being it
wasn't being redirected, it was

1689
01:35:17,070 --> 01:35:21,810
being forwarded from the service
that I use for my email. So like

1690
01:35:21,810 --> 01:35:25,050
a terabyte a day of data was
being forwarded to my Gmail

1691
01:35:25,050 --> 01:35:28,200
account. And that of course, is
you know, and then they have

1692
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:30,840
some limits set up, you know,
you just can't be forwarding a

1693
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:34,950
terabyte of data every day of
crap. Not for your 50 bucks a

1694
01:35:34,950 --> 01:35:37,170
month. Mr. Curry, we're just not
going to allow that.

1695
01:35:38,100 --> 01:35:39,360
But it's a terabyte of crap.

1696
01:35:40,199 --> 01:35:44,429
It's actually I'm a bad medicine
for not having solved that much

1697
01:35:44,429 --> 01:35:47,939
earlier. Because yeah, I was
just sending crap. Filling up

1698
01:35:47,939 --> 01:35:51,269
them pipes, which is and let's
just finish the show with that.

1699
01:35:51,299 --> 01:35:54,809
You know, I love these stories.
And the I don't know where these

1700
01:35:54,809 --> 01:35:58,619
are coming from. But the
internet is full video is going

1701
01:35:58,619 --> 01:36:01,259
to break the internet. I love
the stories.

1702
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:05,790
You follow? Yeah. Yeah, no, I
actually criticised the storage

1703
01:36:05,790 --> 01:36:08,490
because there was one of them
that said, well, the internet is

1704
01:36:08,490 --> 01:36:11,970
going to be AT and T. They had
this thing and they said the

1705
01:36:11,970 --> 01:36:15,840
internet's gonna be full by
2010. And they expect it to

1706
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:19,470
increase by another 50% by 2015.
With a waiver, how can I

1707
01:36:19,470 --> 01:36:22,410
increase it off? It's going to
be full by 2010. There's this

1708
01:36:22,410 --> 01:36:25,200
really weird discrepancy in
those in the way the story was

1709
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,810
presented? It was like, this
makes no sense. I think

1710
01:36:27,810 --> 01:36:31,860
I know what's behind it. Now you
said it's a TNT I betcha that

1711
01:36:31,860 --> 01:36:38,610
they they want to make y max or
hdspe, or whatever it's called.

1712
01:36:38,610 --> 01:36:44,820
They want people to see that as
the, the, the high level service

1713
01:36:44,820 --> 01:36:47,880
internet wireless, so people
kind of wean them off of the

1714
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:51,270
idea that we do people really
consumers, they all understand

1715
01:36:51,270 --> 01:36:54,780
the difference between Wi Fi and
wi max. And hey, this one works

1716
01:36:54,780 --> 01:36:58,080
pretty good. You know, it always
seen and by the way, I hear that

1717
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:01,290
the internet is going to be
fooled and 2020 sounds like one

1718
01:37:01,290 --> 01:37:04,980
of those jobs to me. Yeah, you
might be right. It's gonna be

1719
01:37:04,980 --> 01:37:14,580
full, full, full fall or fall a
cloud. Yes, well, on that note,

1720
01:37:15,990 --> 01:37:22,680
we're full. Go home. What do you
got going on this week? John.

1721
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,600
I've got to go on Monday, I'm
going to run down to Xerox PARC

1722
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,180
for a special event I get to
meet a couple of really hotshot

1723
01:37:30,180 --> 01:37:33,690
guys have been itching to meet
over the years. And I'll report

1724
01:37:33,690 --> 01:37:34,590
back on that later.

1725
01:37:34,740 --> 01:37:38,310
And can you give me any thought
any clues on who these hotshot

1726
01:37:38,310 --> 01:37:40,890
guys are? Is is a seminar or
conference or

1727
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,100
it's something there's like an
open house or doing for certain

1728
01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:47,310
journalists under not and I'm
not absolutely sure to be honest

1729
01:37:47,310 --> 01:37:51,990
about it, but it's being done by
the Xerox printer people. And so

1730
01:37:52,260 --> 01:37:54,930
it just be it'll be interesting.
I'll take pictures. You mean the

1731
01:37:54,930 --> 01:37:59,850
document company? Yeah, the
document company them. All

1732
01:37:59,850 --> 01:38:01,260
right. Well, I'm gonna

1733
01:38:01,260 --> 01:38:04,380
be hanging around here. I'm
actually I got to do my wife's

1734
01:38:04,380 --> 01:38:09,120
first live. I hate dude. She's
no, she's ruled Friday evening

1735
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:12,930
with that show. Orleans got a
challenge number one, number one

1736
01:38:12,930 --> 01:38:17,820
show of the entire day, every
single Friday. So she's doing

1737
01:38:17,820 --> 01:38:21,900
her first live show on Friday.
So I'm gonna go go over there

1738
01:38:21,900 --> 01:38:25,770
and see how they do that. Be
very interesting. Yeah, yeah,

1739
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:29,520
totally. And to start
renegotiating season two

1740
01:38:33,900 --> 01:38:35,220
sounds like you have the upper
hand.

1741
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:38,430
Yeah. Well, we got it now.
That's for sure. All right. Oh,

1742
01:38:38,430 --> 01:38:43,470
thank you, hon. Um, I just
finished snack time. Look at how

1743
01:38:43,470 --> 01:38:47,040
great is my life, man? Because
my wife brings me let's see. Let

1744
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,920
me just oh, this will be a quick
culinary moment. So this is what

1745
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:54,840
is this hon in the glass? I
can't hear you. Red wine, red,

1746
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:58,590
just pure red whiners. As you
can tell. Well, you gotta ask.

1747
01:38:59,460 --> 01:39:03,300
Is there hold on a second? I
can't hear you when you're

1748
01:39:03,300 --> 01:39:08,040
standing over there. Hold on.
Hold on. Wine. A little bit of

1749
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:11,340
wine. We didn't lose it. This is
the microphone. Okay. Put a

1750
01:39:11,340 --> 01:39:14,400
little bit of juice in St. John.
This is what she does. She does

1751
01:39:14,460 --> 01:39:17,820
red wine. And then she puts a
grape juice in it. Yeah. Why?

1752
01:39:17,850 --> 01:39:23,220
Why? Because I don't want you to
fade away. And then let me just,

1753
01:39:23,730 --> 01:39:26,160
you just came back. Alright. And
let me just say we have here

1754
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:30,960
meatballs. Myself made some
balls, meatballs. We have some

1755
01:39:31,410 --> 01:39:35,160
pickles. And we have some salmon
with cream cheese on little

1756
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:39,030
cracker Melba Toast? Yes. And
some crewcuts All right, what do

1757
01:39:39,030 --> 01:39:39,660
you have, John?

1758
01:39:41,580 --> 01:39:43,110
I have a cup of coffee.

1759
01:39:44,250 --> 01:39:49,050
I'm gonna go have that wine with
grape juice. From the curry

1760
01:39:49,050 --> 01:39:51,360
manor in the United Kingdom. I'm
Adam curry.

1761
01:39:52,110 --> 01:39:55,380
And in Northern California,
Silicon Valley. I'm John C.

1762
01:39:55,380 --> 01:39:55,890
Dvorak.

1763
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:59,100
We'll talk to you again next
week right here on no agenda.