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Well, Summer is almost upon us.
And the days well, they are

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growing longer. They're growing
warmer on both continents. It's

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time once again for no agenda
coming to you from the curry

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manor in the United Kingdom.
It's Adam curry.

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And then up here in northern
California, where it looks to be

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another sunny day. I'm John C.
Dvorak. Hey, John,

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good to talk. We haven't spoken
almost all week. Have we? I know

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once we did you were in New
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Right? Yeah, I gave you a call
because there are crappy cell

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phones. left me a message saying
just a vague message. You know,

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they don't timestamp the
messages. So just said, it's

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Adam. Give me a call.

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So the way that was a text
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No, no, this was a voice
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Really? Yeah. So

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who knows how old it was,

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holy crap. I have I did switch
to maybe that was part of the

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problem. I did switch to the
words the network, the three

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network instead of oh two, which
is the one that was giving me

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all the problems. So now people
are leaving me voicemail,

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because you actually get through
when you call and I'm

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unavailable. Now, of course. The
downside is I fixed the problem,

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but I have voicemail. Which
means I gotta listen to it. I

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don't find voicemail very
productive.

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No, I find it confusing for one
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systems that we have. It's an 18
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I mean, even the hotel's
timestamp half the time Pro

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can Can you press a button and
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got to be some command for that.

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I don't know. Maybe But who's
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No, I mean, you should be Oh,
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there's none that I know. I
mean, it just comes in your

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first inheriting message. And
then you know, hi, Madam Can you

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call? So

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that was an uncanny uncanny
impression of me, John. Thanks.

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That was just fantastic. Yeah,
well, I'm gonna get I'm done

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with them. Actually, something
messed up. Last. Last Friday, I

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was invited someone share Dr.
Blonde bombshell banker in

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Holland, I invited her to come
to the last episode, the last

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live show of HoloLens Got
Talent. And I said, you know,

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I'll send you a text message
with, you know, when I've got

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the ticket to the door, or
whatever the studio number is, I

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sent you the text message. She
never got it. So she didn't show

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up. And it's like, you know,
then three days later, she gets

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a text message. It's not
reliable anymore. Yeah, it

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sucks.

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That's not right.

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Now it's not it has something to
do with all the you know it

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because it's hopping from one
network to the other and

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someone's messed up somewhere. I
would probably say AT and T is

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probably messed up.

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Well, you know, there's it's not
rocket science to send the

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message out and ask for an
acknowledgement. It's like hate

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mail, right? It's like it should
work. Yeah. And then if you

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don't get the acknowledgement,
you send it out again, until the

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phone says, Hey, okay, okay,
okay, it's in here, or I've

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already got it listed, or the
system is not even, it's not

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even kept on the phone. It's
kept on a server someplace

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where you can choose to keep it
on the phone, and you can

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actually choose to get a receipt
and acknowledgement receipt.

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You can you can switch that on.
No, nobody's gonna do that.

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No, I know. But you can actually
do it but it's really annoying

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because then for every message
you send you receive one you

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know that it's been verified,
but there is a way to do it.

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Well, whatever the case, well,
so I'm

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getting me a UK number when that
with my new iPhone, which is

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coming out

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as a UK

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UK number I'm just gonna get a
regular UK cell phone number.

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I'm done with it with this 18 T
crap from the States. You still

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calling a US number when you
call me over here?

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Yeah, do you? Are you sure we're
gonna have to call long distance

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to get ahold of you now? Yeah.
Convenience.

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Oh, boy. How horrible. Yeah,
absolutely.

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So what's been going on that,
you know, I didn't take any

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notes this week. So I have
literally no agenda. Although,

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you know, there's a bunch of
good things that have happened.

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I'm sure we can chat about.

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Yeah, I mean, I got lots of
interesting stuff that's going

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on over here in Europe. I
wouldn't mind here about what

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what you got going on. I I
always have to start off, John.

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It's your turn.

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Well, you know, Obama seems to
be the guy they're gonna run for

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the presidency.

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Do you know how many people are
angry at me about this? Why

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would you do well, of course, I
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And I've been saying forget
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the nomination. So my wife has
been telling everyone you Oh,

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Adam says Clinton's getting the
nomination. And everyone I've

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told it like you douchebag you
know, it's like, now we look

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like shit. Because there was
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shoo in. You said

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it's not over. Well, that's

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what I'm saying. I keep saying
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underestimate these Clintons.
You know, she could run it as an

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independent and still try and go
for the presidency. But you're

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right. It's not over. I don't
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mean, does she have to concede
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No, even if she concedes it's
not over? It's not it's not

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official until it goes to until
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So anything can still happen. I
am with you, John. I think that

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they've got shut up their sleeve
that is not to be believed. I

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think they can change people's
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It wouldn't take much. I mean,
the thing going on the rumour

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right now is that there's a
videotape of Michelle Obama

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doing something weird.

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You know, there's another thing
that's out did you hear about

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this? Apparently two members of
the, of the congregation the

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church he he belongs to in
Chicago. Two of them have been

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murdered. And both were
apparently now either gay or

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bisexual men. And you know, so
now this is now the story going

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around that Obama had that he's
bisexual and that he had an

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affair with one of them and that
it says wacko guy who's all over

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YouTube saying he blew Obama in
a limo is real I don't on

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that. Do you think I would have
heard of that? Or we would have

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blogged it by now. Is that her
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Oh shit, man. I'll find it for
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let's send me I was looking at
it today was sent me a link and

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I'll blog it so I didn't hear
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much attention on the wasn't on.
I'd say Brian Williams wasn't

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discussing it. Let me tell you
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Let me see if I Which one do you
want to get you want the story

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about the about the two guys who
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blowjob envelopes? And the
blowjob guy Hold on. I'll give

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you one blowjob guy if you can
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doing?

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We don't know. Here's the story
though. It's going around.

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Apparently, somebody's got a
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just like a freak out knots are

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well you know, she's kind of a
she might be bipolar for all we

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know. I mean, she's got
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person. You From the looks of
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Patricia says the same thing.
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There's something about her. And
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have this. If it just I don't
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course have an immediate kinship
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She's a ballbuster

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Hold on. I got it here, John.
Here it is. This is a great

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story. I can't believe they did
about this. Hold on.

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Yeah, you know, maybe I'm not
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well, it's also from the
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dotnet here it is. Murder of
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mastered former Reverend
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United Christ of church, a
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congregation that Obama has
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to other young black men that
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bland and needs Spencer were
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with bullets to the backs of
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each other beginning in November
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homosexual

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and Christian, and then the
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decided to go back to to the
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I didn't even know he left

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when he was supposed to be
retiring, but it looks like he's

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not going to and I think he's
worked about a lot of things.

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I'm just gonna hit you with this
with this video page, Larry

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Sinclair's The guy, he's a real
cook. I don't care how bisexual

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you are. You're not going to let
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just not gonna happen. No way. I
mean, Obama may or may not be my

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favourite politician. But I
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that.

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I never thought of you know so
here's the story that I when I

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was in I was in Manhattan this
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and there's a couple of appear
apparently a I'm not sure who

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was involved in this but uh, but
some guys that we both know, I

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guess who are like Democrats or
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when the right that does a vague
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that premise. prepared that they
had dinner with Obama and it

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turns out the guy something of a
of a of a he was unlikable. They

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said at the end of the whole
thing he was mean to the to the

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help and arrogant and has all
these characters. I mean, if you

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watch the guy I find you know, I
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think people are gonna get tired
of him. He just got bought. He's

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like a robot. Well, he's got a
robot like anybody's always

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like, kind of like, kind of
looking you know, with this kind

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of, you know, look at me kind of
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know, I just gets on my nerves
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when I when I first heard him
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convention, well substantiated

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this, John. I really appreciate
it. He's just crazy. He just

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creeps me out. He's no good.

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The best I can do. Hey, I'm like
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no agenda. I understand what I
mean. I'm always thinking

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where's the guys money coming
from? We talked about that last

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week. You guys got Scott 20s
come out of his ears

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and boy was a big years. And so
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he's got a certain kind of
quality that gets on that by the

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time the election rolls around.
I'm sure it's gonna get on

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everybody's nerves. If somebody
doesn't start coaching him to be

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a little more human. Yeah. And
I'm not so sure that this order

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personality that he's got, you
know, you know where

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everything's inauguration with
the pauses and more pauses

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Yeah, that that's gonna get
really irritating. I agree. I

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it's gonna get irritating
because it's unnatural people. I

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mean, those are that's old
fashioned. I mean, it sounds

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good. It was really, you know,
in 2004. At the convention, when

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you first heard him do it, it
was it was like, wow, because

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caregiving

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was kind of cool, right? It was
like a, like a famous leader,

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type of speech.

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Absolutely. It was one of the
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and especially in contrast to
what the debt what the

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Republicans were up to. And so
you know, it was jacked up about

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it, and then he's, you know, but
he's never did still, that's

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what he does, apparently, the
way just, it'll just I was

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talking to you now. Well, Adam,
what do you think of Obama?

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He's like, when you listen to
Obama, it's like you're

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continuously talking to someone
on Skype. It's delayed, and

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sometimes the words get drawn
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So anyways, so while these
murderers are interested, but

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somebody else was murdered for
something else, there was some

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other Obama affiliation. No, no,
this was another thing that was

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going on. And people were some
it was like a whistleblower or

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something. I can't remember
this. Maybe by the end of the

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show. I'll figure it out. Or
we'll talk about it next week.

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But there was also a mysterious
murder. I've been

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catching myself. spiralling down
once in a while. Again, John

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into the conspiracy theory
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Yeah, it's avoidable. Just
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what's happening this weekend in
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this somewhere. No, I don't know
what the Bilderberg group's

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annual meeting. And by the way,
I don't think that that's

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probably just as harmless as the
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except without Scoble as
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to do with and he's just a bit
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as well, although I must say,
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irritating, that you've got the,
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editors and big publishers of
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and nothing's ever, ever
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printed about what goes on.
That's irritating.

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But that's not the conspiracy
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just saying, you know, it's
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videos, and everyone's a
reptile, you know, it's like,

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whoa, you know, step back for a
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Clean as always, I think that's
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everyone's a reptile. I was
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was like, hon, you know, I'm
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saying I believe in this, but,
you know, um, so this is guy,

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David Icke, he was, I think, a
famous football player in the

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UK. And then he became, he went
on to become a sports

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commentator. And then about 16
years ago, he went on the Terry

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Wogan show. And it this whole
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is trying to, you know, gain
control over us through a number

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of ways and really have us just
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is viable. And then all of a
sudden, he goes on this whole

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reptile wrap the Queen Mother's
a reptile.

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Right? No, that's it. It's
always funny, all these guys who

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are into this kind of craziness.
You know, they, they make a lot

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of sense. And then all of a
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calculated? Are these guys just
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books, or I mean, some of this
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think they're nuts. I think
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reptile thing, by the way, for
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we blogged it probably about a
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ago, when he came out again,
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for anyone out there wants to
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he's saying is that, you know, a
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world are actually reptiles that
are trying to children trying to

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kill us all. Yeah, I'm not. I'm
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Well, you know, the evidence
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historic, historic symbolism,
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the reptiles of the snake, you
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snakes and reptiles eating
people eating children drinking

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blood. And then this is great,
do you? This is a great video,

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and I'm sure it's doctored, but
it doesn't even matter. So, of

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course, George Bush senior is,
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according to the theory, and
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So 41 George Bush, President 41
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had some website and they were
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was really kind of uncomfortable
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of speaking a little bit slower
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we I don't even remember it just
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they weren't the way they were
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so they have that video of Bush.
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sing Yeah. So the what the what
the showing and what you see in

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this video true or not is you
see bushes eyes go reptilian and

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they you know, they get like
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they turn red.

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Yeah, that's not doctor. That's
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it.

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It's fantastic. It's fantastic.
But anyway, now whatever. Hey,

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here's one that I didn't send to
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to talk about it on the show.
And I did want you to blog it

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before before we talked about
it. That's how bad is pecan

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Machame.

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Blog. We can't go on seeing each
other this way.

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I can't send you anything. This
is from the from Russia today. I

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shall I should send you the
link. Russian geologists have

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discovered a new mineral which
absorbs radiation from liquid

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nuclear waste. And now we're
striving to chemically clone it

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in the hope a may solve the
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disposal.

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So that's called lead.

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Kryptonite. No, it's not it's
called. The hell is it called?

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They don't give the name.

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Send me the link send me this.
It sounds like a typical Russian

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crock of crap story. Well,

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you'd like to believe it right?

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Yeah, everybody likes to believe
this stuff. Russia today.

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Its nature that is showing us a
way to solve the problem of

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preserving those radioactive
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joke.

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Meanwhile, they have a picture
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quartz doesn't it? Like I was
just gonna say it looks just

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like a big thing. Oh, Rose
Quartz.

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I used to collect rocks as a kid
I have a little rock collection

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you know the place to go if you
haven't shot at it. There's a

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rock shop and this is dead
people going to really roll

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their eyes on this one. But
everybody knows about it. By the

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way there's a rock shop in Sao
Paulo Brazil. And one can only

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imagine because Brazil is one of
these countries that has you

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know without the doodle the
Amazon and the rest of it.

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treasure trove of rocks that are
cool, but they have geocodes and

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this rock shop has probably I
don't know 100 of these things.

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God that are about me in many
cases. What's the what is the

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geo geo is said that rock that
if you're busted open inside

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it's all crystal Garn and that's
not gardens was that whatever

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that purple thing is and you
crack it open in the oh and it

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opens up like an egg and inside
is all this beautiful crystal

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and they have them there that
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And I have some pictures I'll
probably try to remember to blog

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let me make a note I'll blog
pictures of the God in Sao Paulo

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Brazil is rock shop and it was a
very famous place and they you

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can go in there and you can buy
like individual what kinds of

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individual stones by the pound
and you can use jewellers go

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there to make junk jewellery

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right you see my I think was my
my grandmother gave me like a

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starter kit rock collection when
I was a kid like five or six and

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and I got interested in rocks
and you know I'd go out looking

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for rocks of course I could
never find anything near the

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quality or anything is cool
looking as there was in my

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starter kit collection and then
you know I used to go by rocks

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and I feel kind of bad it's like
son that's not really doesn't

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didn't feel right buying the
rocks and sit and play or sing

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them and finding them yourself.
You know it just felt wrong.

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Well the My wife is into this.
Let me she doesn't collect

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rocks. But she did she was she
was

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geology she married one instead
of collecting them

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there you have it rock hard.
Anyway, so

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by Agra Yeah, what else does

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she you know, there's a joke
there. I'm not gonna use it.

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This she anyway, she is still
you know, we'll be driving

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around she Oh, there's a such an
such formation that blah blah

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blah from uplift, and there's
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people over honey.

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So anyway, oh. If you really
like that kind of stuff, you

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should go to the Museum of
Natural History in New York

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City. Yeah, they have. They'll
give you the geologists. They'll

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give you a tour. And they have
some of the greatest stuff.

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There's amazing. I think you can
buy a tour like us individual

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tour for about 100 bucks.

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On a private tour. You mean?

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Yeah. Private tour with the
geologist. Oh, cool. That

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maintains the collection so you
get to see stuff you wouldn't

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normally see. Yeah. Which
reminds me know when I was in

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Korea. I met a guy who's, I
gotta get this Carter. I can't

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remember his name right now. But
he is the he's like the public

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relations, Gopher and go to guy
and intermediary for the

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Vatican. Yeah. And so he says, I
said, Well, when can I get a

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tour of the Vatican? You know,
he says, Oh yeah, I can take you

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down into the archives that
they'd never show anybody. And

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I'm thinking I gotta you should
do that. Oh, I better yeah.

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Maybe when you're in Amsterdam
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over to Vatican City.

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And this wouldn't be a bad idea.
I mentioned to the guy that

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Toronto he said to me that he's
got stuff. He's, you know, he

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goes through it. They don't even
know what's down in the you

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know, in the archives, outside
from you know, they have their

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museum and then they have all
this stuff. Most museums now, a

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days people shouldn't realise
her, probably only what 5%

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visible to the public dresses
up, they rotate. Or if you take

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that museum in China, that one
in Taiwan, where they took all

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the artefacts from the mainland,
when Chiang Kai Shek fled China.

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They is something that takes
late like the collection that

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can rotate it like every month
for the next 100 years. And just

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they still won't finish going
through all this stuff and

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never write anything anything
new. Never ever duplicate

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anything out there.

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Yeah, many ways. So he says that
he was looking over some of the

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stuff down there, he found that
divorce papers for Marco Polo.

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He thought they were pretty
funny. Little How many of you

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would be interested in that, but
I did. I'd be amused

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to historic document. That's
interesting.

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Yeah. So they've collected you
can imagine what the Catholic

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Church must have collected.

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That's in quotation marks
collected.

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So. So I was in New York, and I
found an interesting counter

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trend, which no one's discuss.
I'm going to have to figure out

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what what this is about. But it
doesn't surprise me. But so I'm

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sitting there in the lobby of
this little hotel, which is it's

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not it actually was refurbished,
so it's actually pretty nice.

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And even though it's in the
middle of nowhere, which one was

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it? It was the Bentley, it's
over by them. It's like, it's

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like about a block away from the
bottom underneath the Queensboro

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Bridge.

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Oh, man. That's a it's a
boutique hotel, I presume?

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Yeah, it's like an old dump that
was that's been fixed up a

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little bit, even though they
could have done a better job. In

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some cases. At least the rooms
are almost brand new.

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Right? And what they did they
just throw a sheet over some old

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some old furniture and call it
nouveau.

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No, actually, I think they
actually have real new furniture

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in there. But anyway, it was
okay. I didn't mind it. And they

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said for the location there's no
subway around there was no way

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in middle of nowhere. 62nd in
New York, which is passed First

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Avenue is almost in the drink I
mean, you could look out the

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window there was FDR Drive
That's how far away it was. But

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anyway, for you New Yorkers.

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That's not exactly the happening
hood to be that's for sure.

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Right. And there wasn't any
really notable restaurants in

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the area although patsies the
1933 coal fired pizza place was

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within walking distance.

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Wait, isn't there isn't the What
the hell is it? Isn't there a

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Greek restaurant there? That's
pretty famous on that side like

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way

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there might be I didn't see
anything i was i I didn't do a

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lot of research. I was I went to
you know, when he went for a

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couple of days because we had a
meeting with the MarketWatch

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people that I had to meet with
my book agent. And then And then

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so I stopped here and there and
visited a few people. I just had

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lunch with my editor at PC
Magazine. And I expected this to

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be the that when you go to New
York you have to go to one good

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restaurant. So I went to the
cafe at country and country is a

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restaurant that I've never been
to before it's around the corner

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from the PC Magazine offices.
And it is a one star Michelin

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restaurant. Okay was terrible.

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There off the list. What was the
name

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is well that was the cafe at
country wasn't the restaurant

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itself, which was what got the
star but it's beside the point.

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It's the same kitchen when
there's no

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that's the one on the corner.
Yeah. Oh man. I've been there. I

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had had one of their they have
hamburgers, right? They'd be

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like a really gourmet. For
lunch. Yeah, they

442
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:27,750
do. Yeah. Oh,

443
00:24:27,780 --> 00:24:31,140
I totally agree. It's in the
service was very iffy.

444
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,850
Ah, the service was absolutely
ridiculous. It was terrible.

445
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,310
I had lunch with Ted leonsis,
there. I was like, and it's like

446
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:40,230
his favourite place. Well, Ted

447
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:45,390
is crazy. So He's also a board
member, John. Well, I know I've

448
00:24:45,390 --> 00:24:47,850
known Ted longer than you have.
And so I can say that he'll

449
00:24:47,850 --> 00:24:49,260
think well, you know, divorce
has you

450
00:24:49,620 --> 00:24:51,360
know, you've known him longer
than I have.

451
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,130
I've known Ted I've since nine.
Teen 84

452
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,040
Okay, yeah, you'd beat me there
a couple of years but not much.

453
00:24:59,820 --> 00:25:05,220
Oh, So anyway, I knew him when
he was doing a list magazine. Ah

454
00:25:07,290 --> 00:25:09,450
I don't even know about that.
What's list magazine? What was

455
00:25:09,450 --> 00:25:09,690
that?

456
00:25:10,020 --> 00:25:12,720
Busy with Ted has always been
Ted leonsis is one of the more

457
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,300
interesting characters in the
industry, because he's

458
00:25:15,810 --> 00:25:18,420
considered to be one of the most
creative people I've ever met. I

459
00:25:18,420 --> 00:25:24,420
agree. And although, you know,
I, I think he's almost like a,

460
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,110
you know, a Ferrari engine and a
Volvo. I mean, it doesn't

461
00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:29,340
necessarily,

462
00:25:29,370 --> 00:25:34,470
how about a Ferrari engine in a
Hummer? That may be a little

463
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:36,450
better analogy, or Ted there

464
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,260
that could be whatever the case
is, he doesn't, you know, he's

465
00:25:40,260 --> 00:25:43,470
just a lot of good ideas. And he
executes only a very few of

466
00:25:43,470 --> 00:25:48,030
them. But they always may do
well, but did lists magazine was

467
00:25:48,030 --> 00:25:52,320
a craziest idea. It essentially
was a magazine, I think it came

468
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,030
out monthly, that did nothing
more than list every software

469
00:25:57,030 --> 00:25:58,740
product available on the market.

470
00:25:59,850 --> 00:26:00,600
Interesting.

471
00:26:01,890 --> 00:26:04,080
And it was actually quite
successful. I think he sold it

472
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:04,950
to some suckers.

473
00:26:05,670 --> 00:26:07,440
You know what his new thing is?
You know, he's doing hell

474
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,980
besides. He's on our board. And
what's the other thing he does

475
00:26:10,980 --> 00:26:15,210
that clear, clear spring? The
widget company? That's his? Is

476
00:26:15,210 --> 00:26:19,230
he starting a new credit card?
Oh, really? Yeah.

477
00:26:19,289 --> 00:26:20,519
What's his special about? I

478
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,040
can't remember what it was. Oh,
it had something to do with?

479
00:26:23,970 --> 00:26:25,860
Well, obviously, it's all about
the deals, right. That's what

480
00:26:25,860 --> 00:26:29,460
all the credit cards are about.
And I think it was what was like

481
00:26:29,460 --> 00:26:33,510
customised Oh, it was like a
white label. back end system.

482
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:36,870
That's what it was. So it's
customised. You can have the,

483
00:26:37,230 --> 00:26:39,990
obviously he showed me the
Washington Nationals credit

484
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:41,400
card, and that's one of those
deals.

485
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:45,390
But there was some capital
Capital One, I'll give you a car

486
00:26:45,390 --> 00:26:46,620
with anything you want on I know

487
00:26:46,620 --> 00:26:48,660
that there was there was some
other benefit to it. I'll ask

488
00:26:48,660 --> 00:26:52,530
him. I can't remember. At the
time. I was like, okay, cool.

489
00:26:54,030 --> 00:26:56,910
But anyway, so Ted, I always
thought Ted should have been the

490
00:26:56,910 --> 00:27:00,960
CEO of AOL, because he was over
there as the vice president. And

491
00:27:01,260 --> 00:27:03,870
he started a lot of the there's
little programmes and over there

492
00:27:03,870 --> 00:27:07,620
that were all successful, but I
don't know what it is that he

493
00:27:07,620 --> 00:27:13,290
doesn't take a higher profile on
a lot of things.

494
00:27:13,470 --> 00:27:16,170
I think he doesn't like the
politics, John. I think the you

495
00:27:16,170 --> 00:27:18,420
know, the whole time Warner
thing. I think that just really

496
00:27:18,420 --> 00:27:20,850
turned him off. I just didn't
enjoy it.

497
00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:25,620
You know, he should learn to I
mean, a lot of people don't

498
00:27:25,620 --> 00:27:27,600
enjoy it at first, but it
actually could be a lot of fun,

499
00:27:27,630 --> 00:27:30,690
but he's doing other stuff you'd
like like the stadium they have

500
00:27:30,690 --> 00:27:32,400
for the for the team. He built
that.

501
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,400
You know, right? He used you
mentioned he owns a team. Yeah.

502
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:38,250
Isn't it the nationals that he
owns the hockey team?

503
00:27:38,580 --> 00:27:42,570
The hockey the Nationals is I
think, I think the Nationals you

504
00:27:42,570 --> 00:27:45,450
talk to a baseball team, but he
only the hockey team.

505
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,040
But he built the stadium and you
know, wherever it used to be,

506
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,900
like complete ghetto land in, in
DC. And yeah, when he built the

507
00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:57,240
stadium, they announced like a
huge thriving economic

508
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,620
community. And he also did,
he's, he's in he's in foreign

509
00:28:01,620 --> 00:28:06,690
food to he finance some film
about I'm gonna say China, and

510
00:28:06,690 --> 00:28:09,810
he's worshipped over there,
because it was he was about the

511
00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:13,380
oppression of the people. God, I
wish I remembered all this

512
00:28:13,380 --> 00:28:15,990
because he tells the story
really well. But he financed the

513
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:19,170
movie of course, you know, he
lost while I mean, it was

514
00:28:19,170 --> 00:28:23,430
intended to not make money. But
now when he goes to China, it's

515
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:27,750
like he's the, you know, he's he
gets

516
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:31,260
the red carpet. Yeah, he does as
it were, yes, but red and boom,

517
00:28:31,290 --> 00:28:32,790
the Red Chinese carpet as

518
00:28:32,790 --> 00:28:36,660
he does. Anyway, how did we get
to Ted I can't remember. Well,

519
00:28:36,660 --> 00:28:37,080
we

520
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,440
I was talking about this shirt
this counter trend that

521
00:28:41,910 --> 00:28:45,360
witnessed the hotel he was
somehow we got to Ted woods

522
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,880
because a country's while we got
to Ted because you know, I ate

523
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,970
there and that was the way I
killed my class. And that was

524
00:28:50,970 --> 00:28:53,820
the biggest disappointment
because like I said, I mean, I

525
00:28:53,820 --> 00:28:57,090
did go to Patsy's and have a
coal fired pizza and that was

526
00:28:57,090 --> 00:29:01,110
actually good, but I was hoping
to go to one one star restaurant

527
00:29:01,110 --> 00:29:04,230
that had good food and I can't
say the food was inedible

528
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:08,010
because it was actually the food
was okay even though Landstuhl

529
00:29:08,010 --> 00:29:11,580
enough who was eating it once
before said that he did have

530
00:29:11,580 --> 00:29:13,470
that hamburger you're talking
about me hated it.

531
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,970
I didn't like it was lame. Bad
bad been to really poor choice

532
00:29:17,970 --> 00:29:18,480
have been?

533
00:29:19,140 --> 00:29:21,540
Yeah, this is inexcusable for a
restaurant that has this

534
00:29:21,540 --> 00:29:24,690
reputation that place I have. I
took a little movie of it with

535
00:29:24,690 --> 00:29:28,890
my one of my handheld you know,
a little Kodak cameras. And I'll

536
00:29:28,890 --> 00:29:32,190
post the movie on the blog. Go
walking out of the place. The

537
00:29:32,190 --> 00:29:34,860
place was dumb was dead empty.
It was embarrassing. They should

538
00:29:34,860 --> 00:29:39,360
just close the place for lunch.
Anyway, so I'm at this hotel and

539
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,270
I didn't have the newspapers in
the lobby while you're waiting

540
00:29:42,270 --> 00:29:45,570
for your car or whatever. And
there was a financial time and

541
00:29:45,570 --> 00:29:50,820
then there was a copy of big
pile of the independent. I'm

542
00:29:50,820 --> 00:29:53,130
thinking the independent What's
that doing here in New York City

543
00:29:53,130 --> 00:29:57,840
and it says in India is from the
UK independent International

544
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,960
Edition. Interesting Yeah,
that's what I thought because

545
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,810
this is like, to me is like the
Herald Tribune. You know, we

546
00:30:03,810 --> 00:30:06,480
Americans, we have a paper
called The Herald Tribune, which

547
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,820
is a comedy or used to be a
combination in New York Times

548
00:30:08,820 --> 00:30:11,370
and The Washington Post it's
published and again, is

549
00:30:11,370 --> 00:30:14,580
distributed throughout Europe
for Americans floating around.

550
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,180
But I've never seen the other
side of this. I mean, usually,

551
00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:20,400
it's would be the real paper
wouldn't be like a special

552
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,750
edition for the US.

553
00:30:22,530 --> 00:30:25,050
Financial Times, which is pretty
much the same edition.

554
00:30:25,980 --> 00:30:28,890
Yeah, that Financial Times looks
like the same edition to me. But

555
00:30:28,890 --> 00:30:31,920
this was a special edition, it
was not as thick as the real

556
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,160
independent, but it was pretty,
pretty big. And it had all the

557
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,140
stories in there. I'm looking
through the same thing this

558
00:30:37,140 --> 00:30:40,110
thing could take off, because
it's interesting. A lot is

559
00:30:40,110 --> 00:30:45,600
right. Yes, better and better
American news, including a

560
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,990
breakout story about how there's
found a secret plan to keep us

561
00:30:48,990 --> 00:30:53,880
in Iraq forever. That was
highlighted in this one edition,

562
00:30:53,910 --> 00:30:59,340
which I'll blog back to I guess.
And I was just like, said, Well,

563
00:30:59,340 --> 00:31:01,890
this is an interesting turn of
events, you know, that all of a

564
00:31:01,890 --> 00:31:05,700
sudden, now we have to get you
know, it's getting to the point

565
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:09,870
we're really going to turn to
the British to get American

566
00:31:09,870 --> 00:31:11,850
news. Oh, that's how bad it's
gotten

567
00:31:11,850 --> 00:31:16,890
was me. Yeah. Well, let me tell
you. I don't know who owns the

568
00:31:16,890 --> 00:31:18,150
independent who runs that?

569
00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:21,600
I don't know. It's not a Murdoch
paper. I know that. Oh,

570
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,490
no, it's definitely not. I like
to find the Financial Times

571
00:31:26,490 --> 00:31:29,550
really does it for me, Jonathan,
you really should try and pick

572
00:31:29,550 --> 00:31:30,660
that one up more regularly.

573
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,360
I you know, I shouldn't. The
funny thing is, is that the

574
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,830
reason I got the trip to New
York was MarketWatch. Had a they

575
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:41,310
decided to have a summit with
all their columnists.

576
00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:42,990
Oh, that's why some shitty
Hotel.

577
00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:47,550
Well, the reason for the rishi
hotel was united. It's a funny

578
00:31:47,550 --> 00:31:50,280
gag. But the reason for the city
hotels because they they booked

579
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,910
late and nobody realises
nowadays at all that New York is

580
00:31:53,910 --> 00:31:54,690
full full. Of

581
00:31:54,690 --> 00:31:57,960
course it is. It's a great place
to go. It's full of your hands.

582
00:31:58,410 --> 00:32:01,650
Yeah, it's full of Europeans and
it's full of Europeans all year

583
00:32:01,650 --> 00:32:04,560
round. And if you want to go
visit New York, you have to book

584
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,020
months and months in advance and
this was two maybe a month and a

585
00:32:07,020 --> 00:32:08,640
half in advance which was too
late.

586
00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:10,920
And and what are people speaking
there Russian

587
00:32:12,270 --> 00:32:14,430
this place was let me think

588
00:32:14,490 --> 00:32:17,850
because in London right now
John, every hotel, every bar,

589
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,950
it's all Russian and the weed
trade as as a trend while while

590
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:26,520
we're talking about trends and
counter trends. The Chinese are

591
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,620
taking over the weed trade in

592
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:33,300
the UK. They're buying buy weed,
you don't mean gardening now and

593
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:33,780
they're buying

594
00:32:33,780 --> 00:32:38,130
up council. So basically like
what is Council like Social

595
00:32:38,130 --> 00:32:44,310
Security homes, council estates,
a council estate homes, you

596
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:48,150
know, and they're just cranking
it out, cranking it out. I mean,

597
00:32:48,150 --> 00:32:50,850
the word is all over the place.
The Chinese are taken over the

598
00:32:50,850 --> 00:32:56,640
entire business. Now can I just
say one other thing? They got

599
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,400
primo shit dude, rock on to
China.

600
00:33:01,260 --> 00:33:03,450
I don't know how they don't come
over your house right now and

601
00:33:03,450 --> 00:33:04,320
put you in cuffs.

602
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,660
Ted leonsis was cruising the
Caribbean on his yacht a couple

603
00:33:09,660 --> 00:33:12,210
of years ago poring over old
newspapers when he noticed an

604
00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:17,370
obituary for Iris Chang, author
of The Rape of Nanking, the best

605
00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:20,790
seller about the killing in
1937. A 300,000. Chinese by the

606
00:33:20,790 --> 00:33:21,780
Japanese army.

607
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:24,659
Oh, that's what the movies
about. Well, yeah, the Chinese

608
00:33:24,659 --> 00:33:27,899
would love that guy. Well, he
did it and he spoke good for

609
00:33:27,899 --> 00:33:31,469
him. You know that you know that
that whole episode in history

610
00:33:31,469 --> 00:33:34,919
was was deplorable. And his skin
has done nothing for the

611
00:33:34,919 --> 00:33:38,669
Japanese reputation test for
sure, John,

612
00:33:38,670 --> 00:33:41,340
because I don't know about it. I
will get I will get copies of

613
00:33:41,340 --> 00:33:44,940
the DVD from Ted no problem.
Give me a copy of like the city

614
00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:47,190
I'll get copies. Sure. Tell me
what what went on there.

615
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,470
But the Rape of Nanking that's
when it's, that's pretty funny.

616
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:54,750
You don't know that? Well,
essentially, what happens is the

617
00:33:54,750 --> 00:33:57,870
Japanese occupied this part of
Manchuria. And then they

618
00:33:57,870 --> 00:34:03,420
essentially enslaved and killed
and murdered and raped the women

619
00:34:03,420 --> 00:34:06,510
and turn them into hookers. And
they just they ravished the

620
00:34:06,510 --> 00:34:09,390
place. In fact, the Japanese,
there's been a lot of studies

621
00:34:09,390 --> 00:34:12,990
about this, how the Japanese got
so out of control, and how they

622
00:34:13,140 --> 00:34:16,200
tend to get out of control in
situations outside their own

623
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,120
country. There was a long series
done by that that model who was

624
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,970
actually quite a good actress,
that kind of a good looking

625
00:34:23,970 --> 00:34:27,300
brunette woman with a who's done
a lot of work and came about

626
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:29,760
thinking when they made Julie.
No, no, no, we're talking about

627
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,760
an older model. That is fine,
you know?

628
00:34:34,499 --> 00:34:35,339
No, no older.

629
00:34:36,269 --> 00:34:40,679
Well, hold on. I would cut I
gotta know. She's as she mill.

630
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:45,779
Yeah. You gotta know for sure.
MILFy sorry. Is she a mill for a

631
00:34:45,779 --> 00:34:46,289
GILF?

632
00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:51,390
Oh, she's a she's beautiful. I
mean,

633
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:53,579
how old is she now?

634
00:34:53,940 --> 00:34:57,000
I think she's about 45. Maybe,
maybe 50.

635
00:34:57,540 --> 00:34:59,520
She's an actress. Yeah, she's

636
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,570
a favourite Famous actress you
know, this everyone knows about.

637
00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:05,970
I mean, I'm sure half the
listeners are going to come on,

638
00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:06,240
come on.

639
00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:12,060
What's the movie? What's the
movie? She? Who else is in? Oh,

640
00:35:12,090 --> 00:35:12,870
come on man

641
00:35:13,709 --> 00:35:16,829
was not too bad aim. I can't
think of a movie. She's been in

642
00:35:16,829 --> 00:35:19,859
a lot of movies and she did a
lot of TV work and she was in

643
00:35:19,859 --> 00:35:23,459
the movie she was in the way.
The movie I'm talking about is a

644
00:35:23,459 --> 00:35:27,449
is a documentary that she
narrated about the Japanese

645
00:35:27,449 --> 00:35:31,439
culture. And it's a very good
series. It's called Japan or

646
00:35:31,439 --> 00:35:33,569
something like that. It was on
PBS. And you can probably find

647
00:35:33,569 --> 00:35:36,089
it that way. Let me click on the
keyboard. Somebody pointed out

648
00:35:36,089 --> 00:35:39,119
in Twitter, they sound like an
old fart sitting here typing

649
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:41,279
away and is noisy old keyboard
like

650
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,240
it's not live. It's Oh, yeah.
Someone did send an email about

651
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:45,840
that, didn't they?

652
00:35:46,379 --> 00:35:49,229
Yeah, you know, you sound like
it's funny. I can just see him

653
00:35:49,229 --> 00:35:53,159
hunched over the keyboard typing
away like an old man at sea.

654
00:35:53,609 --> 00:35:55,739
Which is exactly exactly what's
happening.

655
00:35:57,780 --> 00:36:06,420
It is. That's the irony of it.
Dan, what was her name? It's

656
00:36:06,420 --> 00:36:08,310
kind of embarrassing not to you
know, the thing is, you know,

657
00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:13,140
Pete That's the thing about
marketing. If you're not if your

658
00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:15,960
name's not constantly out there,
Jane Seymour.

659
00:36:16,619 --> 00:36:19,289
Oh, Jane Seymour. Yeah, she's a
great actress.

660
00:36:19,860 --> 00:36:23,280
Yeah, let's she was a model
turned actress and John,

661
00:36:23,369 --> 00:36:29,939
John. Jane Seymour. Excuse me,
not 45 Okay, try closer to 60

662
00:36:30,869 --> 00:36:32,039
Well, she looks 45

663
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,280
Sure. She's a good anyway.

664
00:36:36,510 --> 00:36:37,290
Which is what

665
00:36:37,739 --> 00:36:39,059
grandmother I'd like to do.

666
00:36:39,449 --> 00:36:40,289
Grandpa.

667
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:44,189
God you're sick? Yes, I am.

668
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:49,049
So anyway, she did this thing on
Japan. And it was a did anyone

669
00:36:49,049 --> 00:36:53,069
give you ever see it on on its
it was about five or six, maybe

670
00:36:53,099 --> 00:36:58,829
more part series? I don't know
Fortis 789 parts? Not sure. But

671
00:36:58,829 --> 00:37:02,969
it was outstanding, because it
really breaks down the the

672
00:37:02,969 --> 00:37:05,039
history of Japan where it's
headed and where it and it was

673
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:09,419
just, it was just fascinating.
As you've never been to Japan

674
00:37:09,419 --> 00:37:11,639
before, it's definitely
something to watch. But the

675
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:14,129
thing that she did, she had,
there's one section about the

676
00:37:14,129 --> 00:37:18,839
rape of Nan king. And, and there
was she discussed the fact that

677
00:37:18,839 --> 00:37:24,659
the Japanese are concerned to
some large extent about the fact

678
00:37:24,659 --> 00:37:28,769
that and once they leave, if a
group of them leave their own,

679
00:37:28,889 --> 00:37:34,109
you know, enclave of, you know,
like the island, and they go

680
00:37:34,109 --> 00:37:37,019
someplace else, and they have to
start running things in a

681
00:37:37,019 --> 00:37:40,619
foreign environment. They become
extremely brutal and weird. And

682
00:37:40,619 --> 00:37:42,449
was like, you know, Klingons or
something

683
00:37:42,449 --> 00:37:45,629
really just kind of like the
Kamikaze gene or something like

684
00:37:45,629 --> 00:37:46,559
that. Well,

685
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,110
it's or some it's some other
words, probably a more of a

686
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,860
samurai Ronin kind of gene or
something there, you know, or

687
00:37:52,860 --> 00:37:55,980
Toka. You know, it all stems
back to the Tokugawa Shogun

688
00:37:55,980 --> 00:37:59,310
eight, which was a period of
time where the Japanese had to

689
00:37:59,310 --> 00:38:02,910
learn to be expressionless
because, you know, it gets it

690
00:38:02,910 --> 00:38:05,280
was legal for as you know, I
knew that people were in the

691
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,470
government's just to kill you on
the spot if they didn't like the

692
00:38:07,470 --> 00:38:13,230
way you looked at him. And
anyway, so this seems to be some

693
00:38:13,230 --> 00:38:16,650
sort of an issue with them when
they leave, they think is some

694
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,050
sort of a cultural problem when
they leave the country. They

695
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,360
think they can lord it over but
they also have a superiority

696
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,360
complex with a and I guess they
don't think much of the Chinese.

697
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,200
But anyway, the Chinese got
really brutalised by them. And

698
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,720
it was a horrible one of the
worst. I mean, I think that you

699
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,930
know, killed kind of close to a
million people and maybe more

700
00:38:34,410 --> 00:38:39,480
and just just, you know, like,
butchered them. And so anybody

701
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,450
who would do a documentary on
this, like Ted apparently did,

702
00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:45,060
that would be adored by the
Chinese who still hate the

703
00:38:45,060 --> 00:38:46,470
Japanese for this. Yeah.

704
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,660
So you but you don't know what
the title of it because I'm

705
00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:52,980
looking at her at an IMDB
dot.com. And I've got Oh, yeah.

706
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,030
Okay. Let me see How I Met Your
Mother and know that it isn't a

707
00:38:57,060 --> 00:38:58,020
blind dating

708
00:38:58,050 --> 00:39:01,800
now. It would be it would be
under the TV listing beach party

709
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,780
at the threshold of hell. Yeah,
that's where I am.

710
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:08,430
Jane Seymour

711
00:39:08,849 --> 00:39:11,459
was in Wedding Crashers. That
was good. That was a good one.

712
00:39:11,879 --> 00:39:15,809
Dr. Quinn, of course. What a
career this woman's had. And

713
00:39:15,809 --> 00:39:16,349
she's hot.

714
00:39:17,909 --> 00:39:19,949
Yeah, and there's a picture of
her icy wood next to her

715
00:39:19,949 --> 00:39:21,329
daughter. She's prettier than
her daughter.

716
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,820
Is it the absolute truth? No,
no,

717
00:39:23,820 --> 00:39:26,490
no. Hang on a second. Here it
is. I mean, let me just get to

718
00:39:26,490 --> 00:39:31,320
the Jane Seymour list. It would
probably be under it's a Debbie

719
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,340
interesting was not here. Not an
act as a reason. It's got to be

720
00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:36,060
down at the bottom.

721
00:39:38,610 --> 00:39:41,670
So it's old. It's like from the
80s or 90s it's it's pretty

722
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:47,130
old. Yeah, it's probably from
the 80s. Thanks. It's got to be

723
00:39:47,130 --> 00:39:49,020
way down, way down. Way down.

724
00:39:49,739 --> 00:39:56,909
Keys to freedom now. Jack the
Angel of Death

725
00:39:56,969 --> 00:39:58,649
guide she's got a huge list.

726
00:39:58,650 --> 00:40:02,640
Amazing, isn't it? Well, I guess
that's what you're doing actress

727
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,050
man. She does good work. And
she's got like, 18 kids.

728
00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:12,000
Yeah, no, she's uh, that's she
did it right? Yeah.

729
00:40:12,750 --> 00:40:15,630
All right, so we can't find it.
Well,

730
00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:16,350
it's not here.

731
00:40:17,009 --> 00:40:19,619
It's, I'm not seeing it either,
as should I don't want to see

732
00:40:19,619 --> 00:40:22,799
her television credits. Are you
always sure she did it? Sure.

733
00:40:22,799 --> 00:40:23,039
She's

734
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,300
the one. Oh, yeah.

735
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,060
Believe me. It's nothing you'd
forget. Oh, wait a minute.

736
00:40:27,060 --> 00:40:31,560
Here's a here's another these
lists vs. 2000 80s. to click on

737
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,230
the 80s Oh, I see. It's just
part of a

738
00:40:34,289 --> 00:40:41,369
running dry. Is that what it's
called? While we probably we

739
00:40:41,369 --> 00:40:42,059
should move on at this

740
00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:45,510
top. Yeah, whatever. But anyway,
the point is, is that there's

741
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,960
you should look up the topic and
catch up to it your your remiss

742
00:40:53,219 --> 00:40:55,319
as part of the world history, I
should know more about

743
00:40:55,319 --> 00:41:01,649
particularly because I could
certainly interrogate uncle Don

744
00:41:01,649 --> 00:41:03,869
about some of that he was all
over Japan.

745
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,400
Well, I'll tell you something
you could. If you watch the de

746
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,910
leonsis piece, I'm guessing
you'll probably write the right

747
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:15,570
up to speed. I'm gonna, I gotta
just get that from him. And

748
00:41:15,570 --> 00:41:16,500
you'll be all I'll get.

749
00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:19,200
I'll get you a copy too. Yeah,
okay, good.

750
00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:22,410
So anyway, so that's the so
anyway, so I'm looking at the

751
00:41:22,410 --> 00:41:24,390
independent that was that I
thought that was an interesting

752
00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:26,400
trend. And now I'm thinking
check. Does anyone get a

753
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,860
subscription to this? I mean,
the news in there was just, you

754
00:41:28,860 --> 00:41:32,100
know, stuff that they don't even
print here, is it our news has

755
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:35,880
just gotten dreadful. Anyway,
when I was in New York, I also

756
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,900
did two other things. I really
jam when I go anywhere. It's

757
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:40,500
pretty funny.

758
00:41:41,310 --> 00:41:44,910
You'd even call me back, I
emailed you. And I said, Call me

759
00:41:44,910 --> 00:41:47,220
if you have a second. You must
have been really busy.

760
00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:54,030
So I was pretty busy. So I
visited both Fox Business and

761
00:41:54,030 --> 00:41:56,670
got a complete tour. This is
Chris with the MarketWatch

762
00:41:56,670 --> 00:42:02,670
folks. And then the next day I
got a car out to out to Jersey

763
00:42:02,670 --> 00:42:04,920
and went and visited the CNBC
studios.

764
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,120
Yeah. Right across the run
across the bridge, right. Yeah.

765
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,220
And I got to meet all the people
there one of the executive

766
00:42:14,220 --> 00:42:17,580
producers brings me on every so
often. And so she gave me a

767
00:42:17,580 --> 00:42:20,910
complete tour I get to meet you
know, I've got to meet you know,

768
00:42:21,540 --> 00:42:25,740
former MarketWatch person Trish
Regan who's just gorgeous and

769
00:42:25,740 --> 00:42:29,580
then Courtney Reagan who was
like really pretty she does a

770
00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:33,000
little spot news and can tell
you all the hostesses which are

771
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:37,140
and all the guys that do all the
shows. And I got to compare the

772
00:42:37,140 --> 00:42:41,550
Fox Business operation with the
CNBC because they're kind of

773
00:42:41,550 --> 00:42:43,530
competing with each other. And

774
00:42:44,010 --> 00:42:46,500
let me guess, let me guess Fox
far superior.

775
00:42:47,610 --> 00:42:49,770
No force inferior. Really?

776
00:42:49,830 --> 00:42:52,320
Oh, I thought we have all kinds
of cool shit going on there.

777
00:42:52,409 --> 00:42:55,229
They have a lot of cool stuff.
But compared to what's going on,

778
00:42:55,229 --> 00:42:58,379
it's I mean, it's like night and
day. It's like, I wouldn't, you

779
00:42:58,379 --> 00:43:01,829
know, they dropped I think 150
million or something into the

780
00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:02,339
fox.

781
00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:06,690
TV right into the studios and
everything. Yeah.

782
00:43:07,619 --> 00:43:09,629
You know, some huge amount of
money. It's all digital. It's

783
00:43:09,629 --> 00:43:15,749
really cool. It looks like a
kitty car. Compared to like, you

784
00:43:15,749 --> 00:43:21,689
know, this Lamborghini stuff.
Yeah, I mean, the the CNBC thing

785
00:43:21,689 --> 00:43:29,429
is, is probably three times
bigger. It's, it's got different

786
00:43:29,429 --> 00:43:35,159
energy, the energy is really
amazing. It's just, it's just,

787
00:43:35,369 --> 00:43:39,959
it's just, I don't see how Fox
is gonna it's gonna be years and

788
00:43:39,959 --> 00:43:42,929
years before Fox can catch up to
these guys. And I also don't

789
00:43:42,929 --> 00:43:46,439
think Fox has got the right idea
how to do that kind of business

790
00:43:46,439 --> 00:43:50,999
channel, to be honest about I
think they're completely going

791
00:43:50,999 --> 00:43:52,979
in the wrong direction in every
which way.

792
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:55,230
Didn't Brian Williams come from
CNBC?

793
00:43:57,300 --> 00:44:00,930
Or that or MSNBC, but I think he
came from MSNBC,

794
00:44:01,020 --> 00:44:02,970
because he's not he does the
nightly news now, doesn't he?

795
00:44:02,970 --> 00:44:03,870
Because we get that over here.

796
00:44:04,650 --> 00:44:09,990
Yeah, he used to do MSNBC news.
And he was always I used to work

797
00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:15,420
at MSNBC for a while. And when
Soledad O'Brien was there, and

798
00:44:15,810 --> 00:44:20,040
it was always, always obvious to
me that Brian Williams was the

799
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,860
heir apparent to Tom Brokaw.
Even though sometimes you can't

800
00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:25,950
really tell with NBC. It's
pretty obvious because they line

801
00:44:25,950 --> 00:44:29,520
him up in a certain way. And I
always thought Brian Williams

802
00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:32,790
was outstanding, and except for
the fact that he's got this

803
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:35,850
broken nose. That is annoying. I
don't know why as well. You want

804
00:44:35,850 --> 00:44:36,120
to hear his

805
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,680
story? Yeah.

806
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,510
So he must have been either at
CNBC or maybe doing human

807
00:44:42,510 --> 00:44:47,970
interest pieces for the nightly
news. But he did a piece on a

808
00:44:47,970 --> 00:44:50,850
cosmetic surgeon in New Jersey
and Patricia was there and she

809
00:44:50,850 --> 00:44:54,750
was asked to be a part of the
piece. She had, I don't even

810
00:44:54,750 --> 00:44:56,610
know it was her boob job. I
don't know something she had

811
00:44:56,610 --> 00:45:00,360
done. And Brian Williams was
really hitting on her wall. Take

812
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,440
her out. Because she, the other
day we're sitting in I'm

813
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,420
flipping through sky channels,
you know, somewhere up around

814
00:45:06,420 --> 00:45:09,540
the five hundreds, you know,
we're all the new shit is as

815
00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:11,910
Brian Williams on so, you know I
hold it's the nightly news I'm

816
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:15,270
looking at she says, Oh, that's
the guy that hit on me. Like

817
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:18,990
really? Yeah, he was he was
courteous, but he was pushing

818
00:45:18,990 --> 00:45:19,590
pretty hard.

819
00:45:21,210 --> 00:45:22,980
courteous. I like that.

820
00:45:24,060 --> 00:45:26,820
But yet yet firm. courteous.

821
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:34,260
Yeah, I'm sure he was firm. So
anyway, so the, the No, Fox is

822
00:45:34,260 --> 00:45:38,820
not going to. I mean, I did.
I've only done one hit for them.

823
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:42,720
I did the Neil Cavuto show, I
think a few weeks ago and

824
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:47,190
somehow Neil's got moved over
there. And he's you know, he's

825
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,090
talented guys, but I don't they
don't have numbers and I think

826
00:45:51,390 --> 00:45:54,210
they don't have the right.
Personally, I don't think

827
00:45:54,210 --> 00:45:54,780
they're they're

828
00:45:55,260 --> 00:45:58,530
well appointed to CNBC really
have numbers. Oh,

829
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,290
CNBC is one of the most
profitable broadcasting

830
00:46:01,290 --> 00:46:02,250
operations in the world

831
00:46:02,250 --> 00:46:05,010
profitable, but you know, what
are the numbers? What are the

832
00:46:05,010 --> 00:46:07,740
ratings? Right, you know, I
don't know what the ratings are.

833
00:46:08,490 --> 00:46:11,610
Man. It's just not it's not that
high. Can't, you know, you know,

834
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,590
but it's a million I'd be very
surprised.

835
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,650
No, it's not that hated. But
it's the point is, is it's the

836
00:46:16,650 --> 00:46:19,980
people who watch it. Yeah, of
course it I mean, you have some

837
00:46:19,980 --> 00:46:22,740
of the you know, biggest money
people in the world that just

838
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:25,860
essentially have CNBC on just on

839
00:46:26,699 --> 00:46:29,519
because they run it properly.
You got that Squawk Box in the

840
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:33,659
morning? With that fat fuck,
what's his name? Mark or

841
00:46:33,659 --> 00:46:34,169
whatever.

842
00:46:34,350 --> 00:46:35,520
I can't get up that early.

843
00:46:35,730 --> 00:46:38,580
I used to watch it religiously.
And it's great. Because, you

844
00:46:38,580 --> 00:46:41,910
know, they do get all the CEOs
on he's on a first name basis

845
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:44,820
with him. He's, you know, he
punches him around. They're all

846
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,090
they are right on top of all of
the fucking stories. I mean,

847
00:46:48,090 --> 00:46:50,160
anything that's breaking,
they've got the right people.

848
00:46:50,220 --> 00:46:52,980
It's it's quite impressive. And
that's what keeps people going.

849
00:46:52,980 --> 00:46:54,870
That's why they keep it on at
the office.

850
00:46:55,650 --> 00:46:58,260
Yeah, no, they just keep it on
24/7 and tell you every time I

851
00:46:58,260 --> 00:47:02,220
do a CNBC spot, everyone I know
who's in the financial world

852
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,390
sends me an email and they

853
00:47:03,389 --> 00:47:06,239
see it. Of course, it's all Hey,
you were on yesterday,

854
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:08,340
it was pretty good. Good. You
said, you know, I was on for

855
00:47:08,340 --> 00:47:10,110
like, two minutes, you know, a
minute and a half.

856
00:47:11,610 --> 00:47:14,760
With Neil Cavuto talking about
what let me guess Microsoft?

857
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,030
Well, with Kabuto was on it was
actually on Fox because he's

858
00:47:18,030 --> 00:47:21,300
moved over. But no, generally
speaking, I would do the Erin

859
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:26,190
Burnett Show with Erin Burnett,
that's done just before street

860
00:47:26,190 --> 00:47:28,920
signs or whatever it's called
just before that 12 o'clock at

861
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,480
the lunch. Yeah.

862
00:47:30,810 --> 00:47:33,090
So they have a different crew
over here in the UK. They also

863
00:47:33,090 --> 00:47:36,510
have they have Squawk Box in the
morning. And they have there's

864
00:47:36,510 --> 00:47:38,910
some interesting personalities
to do it here. Same format,

865
00:47:38,910 --> 00:47:41,700
though. Same formula right on
top of it really good watching.

866
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,089
Yeah, well, if you go to see
their operation, you can see

867
00:47:45,089 --> 00:47:49,139
why. I mean, they have I mean
the number of people that are on

868
00:47:49,139 --> 00:47:52,949
any given show, I mean, I was
taken to into the control room

869
00:47:52,949 --> 00:47:56,879
and they'll have like one person
who just does the one just like

870
00:47:56,879 --> 00:48:01,079
the Chiron person in charge of
only the graphs that they show

871
00:48:01,079 --> 00:48:03,389
and then there's a Chiron person
in charge of all the names and

872
00:48:03,389 --> 00:48:07,739
all the other movement. It's
like you know, for each show,

873
00:48:07,739 --> 00:48:11,069
there's probably five or six
technicians doing behind the

874
00:48:11,069 --> 00:48:13,739
scenes stuff besides the
director and all the camera

875
00:48:13,739 --> 00:48:17,519
people and everything was in
between it's actually quite it

876
00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:21,209
was I mean Fox has that same
kind of layout but it's just

877
00:48:21,209 --> 00:48:25,139
smaller everything is smaller
their offices are you know less

878
00:48:25,139 --> 00:48:26,069
interesting

879
00:48:26,429 --> 00:48:29,099
is the same facilities where
they had MSNBC

880
00:48:31,650 --> 00:48:33,300
the CNBC NBC offices.

881
00:48:34,860 --> 00:48:36,030
Oh, you mean the fox ones?

882
00:48:36,090 --> 00:48:39,300
No, no, the ones across the
river in Jersey CMD I don't

883
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:39,630
know. I

884
00:48:39,630 --> 00:48:42,840
mean, I didn't never went to
this in MSNBC buffets is when

885
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,390
they were out in the west east
coast. I only worked on the West

886
00:48:45,390 --> 00:48:45,780
Coast.

887
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:47,940
I don't know. All right. I
thought it was the same, the

888
00:48:47,940 --> 00:48:49,110
same facility.

889
00:48:49,350 --> 00:48:51,960
I don't know. It might be it's,
I'll tell you this is huge.

890
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:59,310
Cool. So that was educational.
And you know, you have to go

891
00:48:59,310 --> 00:49:01,440
over there once in a while and
show your face so people say you

892
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,950
know, we need somebody for
today's show. I think anybody

893
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,740
and then somebody says I
divorced

894
00:49:07,739 --> 00:49:09,869
Rajon Can I can I tell you
something? Because like, you

895
00:49:09,869 --> 00:49:11,789
know, because I know you're
looking for money, like always

896
00:49:11,789 --> 00:49:13,319
right? You know, you're just
like me, you're scrounging

897
00:49:13,319 --> 00:49:16,049
around. We're getting gigs.
We're doing shit. Check this

898
00:49:16,049 --> 00:49:19,409
out, man. You got to get
yourself an ISDN set. You could

899
00:49:19,409 --> 00:49:23,129
call into so many shows. You
could just sit at home you could

900
00:49:23,129 --> 00:49:24,389
call into all these shows.

901
00:49:24,420 --> 00:49:29,190
When I finished my when I
finished my book about American

902
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:31,710
depressions then I'll need it
because

903
00:49:31,710 --> 00:49:35,220
then you know, because I talked
about on the daily source code.

904
00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:37,440
I talked about it. I had this
thing. I got like three radio

905
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,730
stations calling me saying hey,
can we can we talk to you next

906
00:49:41,730 --> 00:49:44,070
Tuesday morning or whatever.
And, you know,

907
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,560
the problem is I'm not just I'm
actually not generally speaking

908
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,490
of the ill that I want to get on
the air unless I have something

909
00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:54,180
to sell.

910
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,629
Well, I'm sorry. I didn't get
pissed off at me. No, I'm

911
00:49:57,630 --> 00:49:59,550
just saying I don't have
anything to sell because you've

912
00:49:59,550 --> 00:50:02,040
been hounded me to get ISDN and
Allah but I don't

913
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,920
want the ISDN for us. I don't
give a shit. What else do you do

914
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,840
with it? I'm just trying to
think of ways that you can you

915
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,270
know, I'm like maybe it's too
expensive.

916
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,210
It is too expensive. That's the
problem itself, John, and I

917
00:50:15,390 --> 00:50:17,370
won't pay for itself. That's the
point. Let

918
00:50:17,370 --> 00:50:20,580
me tell you BT man. So I hooked
up this line, right? I got a

919
00:50:20,580 --> 00:50:24,270
business line. And they called
me on my home line and said, Do

920
00:50:24,270 --> 00:50:28,740
you want a free ad in the Yellow
Pages? I said, No. This thing go

921
00:50:28,770 --> 00:50:32,850
at least four times a day. This
and it's an auto answer, right?

922
00:50:32,850 --> 00:50:35,520
Because it's plugged into the
into the codec. So it

923
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,240
automatically hands on. What the
hell are they testing the line

924
00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:42,000
and then click it'll it'll go on
and you know, it's routed

925
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,250
through the mixer, and I'll hear
me out with someone. Hello.

926
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:49,560
Hello. And open up the
microphone like Yeah. And, like,

927
00:50:50,610 --> 00:50:53,400
we want to offer you and it's
like solicitations they gave my

928
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,780
number away immediately.

929
00:50:55,830 --> 00:51:00,630
Oh, so you're getting a bunch of
spam? Yes. ISDN. Spam. Wow,

930
00:51:00,630 --> 00:51:02,580
that's weird. Of course.

931
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,350
Yeah, I guess it is ISDN spam.
Well, you just I wonder if it

932
00:51:07,350 --> 00:51:09,510
calls if it just registers a
regular number.

933
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:17,490
It is a regular number when you
look at it. Yeah. Anyway, yeah,

934
00:51:17,490 --> 00:51:20,160
yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. Well,
suppose I have something to

935
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,770
sell. I'll do it. I mean, I'm
just not going to. I definitely

936
00:51:22,770 --> 00:51:24,870
don't want to get a bunch of
guys calling me left and right.

937
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,680
So how does that work? So you
you go with your agent and you

938
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:30,960
What do you go to publishers and
you pitch the idea?

939
00:51:31,469 --> 00:51:33,929
Oh, no, the way Well, it
depends. I mean, my book and

940
00:51:33,929 --> 00:51:36,239
depression I'm going to self
publish this as I went to see

941
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,559
him about another project I'm
working on with Gina Smith. And

942
00:51:40,709 --> 00:51:46,049
me about it. I'll tell ya shows
we get shows we have it a little

943
00:51:46,049 --> 00:51:49,079
more hammered down because it
didn't we're fine tuning the

944
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:52,919
retouching with Gina. Together?
No, no, I'm pitching by myself.

945
00:51:52,919 --> 00:51:55,919
Gee, but you know, Jean has
worked with Brockman before this

946
00:51:55,919 --> 00:52:00,149
John Brockman, the one of the I
actually worked work for him

947
00:52:00,149 --> 00:52:04,859
once. But Brockman is like does
all these, you know, high end

948
00:52:05,489 --> 00:52:10,859
products that get big money. And
she did that Wozniak book was

949
00:52:10,859 --> 00:52:13,889
through him and some other
projects, I guess. So she knows

950
00:52:13,889 --> 00:52:17,729
who she is. And it's not an
issue. I just wanted to sit in

951
00:52:17,729 --> 00:52:20,399
his office and chat for a while
anyway, which is what you have,

952
00:52:20,399 --> 00:52:21,419
and you just sit

953
00:52:21,420 --> 00:52:23,670
there and you gotta say, give me
a goddamn contract already. I'm

954
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:24,510
not gonna leave.

955
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:29,370
And so you know, so I
essentially the way it works,

956
00:52:29,370 --> 00:52:32,550
though, generally speaking, is
depending on the agent you work

957
00:52:32,550 --> 00:52:35,340
with, and all agents have a
slightly different process. But

958
00:52:35,490 --> 00:52:38,280
for the most part, it goes like
this, you come up with an idea,

959
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,200
and people out there want to
sell books, this is how you do

960
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,710
it. First, you got to find an
agent, which is not easy, but

961
00:52:44,190 --> 00:52:45,630
you come up with a

962
00:52:46,260 --> 00:52:49,950
name in the phonebook under L
for lefty, Lefty Schwartz,

963
00:52:50,610 --> 00:52:54,510
L for literary agent. Anyway, so
you come up with an idea and you

964
00:52:54,510 --> 00:52:56,910
write a proposal, and it's all
everything is done based on

965
00:52:56,910 --> 00:53:00,900
this, generally speaking, and
the proposal dependent proposals

966
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:04,920
are interesting, because they're
trendy, they they sometimes they

967
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,770
want long proposals, and
everybody wants a long proposal

968
00:53:07,770 --> 00:53:11,880
that goes on forever 15 pages,
or they want short proposals.

969
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,700
Nobody wants a long proposal,
they want two page proposals,

970
00:53:14,700 --> 00:53:17,940
okay, whatever, like Hollywood.
Yeah, it just goes back and

971
00:53:17,940 --> 00:53:19,650
forth, and back and forth. If
you don't have an agent, you

972
00:53:19,650 --> 00:53:22,500
don't know what the trend is for
the day, you know how it's three

973
00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:27,180
pages. Exactly. So anyway, so
you write the thing up, and

974
00:53:27,180 --> 00:53:30,780
usually the eight depending on
the agency, but many of them

975
00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:33,390
like to, you know, they go back
and you go back and forth to the

976
00:53:33,390 --> 00:53:37,380
agent, with the proposal find
honing it, and then the agent

977
00:53:37,380 --> 00:53:40,920
presents it to a publisher that
usually a pal, because they all

978
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,530
have, you know, every agent,
that's which, which is just kind

979
00:53:43,530 --> 00:53:47,220
of interesting to me. Every
agent has his own channels.

980
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,190
They're all and they're all
different. So if you went to

981
00:53:50,190 --> 00:53:54,120
agent a, they would have
channels into maybe, let's say,

982
00:53:55,050 --> 00:53:58,800
two or three, like maybe 20
editors total from 10 different

983
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,310
publishing houses. If you went
to agent B, they'd have a whole

984
00:54:02,310 --> 00:54:05,100
different group that they would
be pitching.

985
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:07,589
And then it's the same with all
agents. Oh, that's what you get

986
00:54:07,589 --> 00:54:09,779
an agent. Yeah, they have their
friends. It's all their buddies,

987
00:54:09,779 --> 00:54:09,869
the

988
00:54:09,869 --> 00:54:10,589
Rolodex.

989
00:54:10,980 --> 00:54:13,830
And so you know, and if they've
been making money for the for

990
00:54:13,830 --> 00:54:17,130
the publisher, then that you
know, their buddies are, you

991
00:54:17,130 --> 00:54:20,070
know, happy to see him. So you
know what you find the agent

992
00:54:20,070 --> 00:54:22,260
that's got a conduit you're
looking for so in other words,

993
00:54:22,260 --> 00:54:26,010
you wouldn't take a fiction book
and give it to somebody who does

994
00:54:26,010 --> 00:54:28,890
nonfiction because no matter how
good of an agent they are, they

995
00:54:28,890 --> 00:54:33,330
don't have any, there's no
channels. So finding the right

996
00:54:33,330 --> 00:54:37,380
agent is a big deal. And anyway,
so then they take it in and then

997
00:54:37,380 --> 00:54:39,990
a couple of things can happen in
the olden days you used to have

998
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:41,940
these book auctions which are
pretty cool because then they'd

999
00:54:41,940 --> 00:54:45,270
run up the price between you'd
get two or three people together

1000
00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:48,600
that would all want it and then
they argue amongst themselves

1001
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,900
and give you way too much money.
And but nowadays, it just, you

1002
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:54,750
know, do a deal and it's over
and then you anyway, so then you

1003
00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:57,990
do a book, generally speaking
that is not the same book as the

1004
00:54:57,990 --> 00:55:02,370
one in the proposal and They
take the book that you gave him

1005
00:55:02,370 --> 00:55:05,190
and print something that's not
what you gave him. And then

1006
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:06,030
outcomes.

1007
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,770
Excellent. And how long is that
process stick,

1008
00:55:11,130 --> 00:55:14,580
that the process takes too long.
The process probably takes a

1009
00:55:14,580 --> 00:55:20,940
good nine months oh man, for and
it's a you know and the way you

1010
00:55:20,940 --> 00:55:22,200
get paid generally

1011
00:55:24,179 --> 00:55:25,499
you get an advance, you get

1012
00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:27,720
what depends on the obey, if
it's if it's a big advance, you

1013
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:33,180
get it in three, in three
payments you usually get if it's

1014
00:55:33,180 --> 00:55:36,540
a big advance, you can change
you can Did you can be done in

1015
00:55:36,540 --> 00:55:40,770
any way you can make them agree
to, which is the key. And I

1016
00:55:40,770 --> 00:55:43,650
always tell people, you know,
you gotta be careful about the

1017
00:55:43,650 --> 00:55:45,990
main thing that that authors
have to worry about is the dummy

1018
00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:51,180
contract. And dummy contracts
are in fact, you know, me via we

1019
00:55:51,180 --> 00:55:53,760
have a dummy contractor that
I've heard people bitch about.

1020
00:55:54,420 --> 00:55:58,140
And because everybody has a
dummy contract, because if you

1021
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,720
are going to hire somebody, and
they're going to sign this

1022
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:06,120
thing, fine. But, but in
business, it's called the dummy

1023
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,690
contracting, and that's what
they call it. And because you're

1024
00:56:09,690 --> 00:56:13,290
a dummy, if you sign it, the
idea is, of course, you change

1025
00:56:13,290 --> 00:56:15,330
what you want to change, and
then they usually agree to it.

1026
00:56:15,630 --> 00:56:18,780
And unless you're a dummy, and
there's an agent, by the way,

1027
00:56:18,780 --> 00:56:22,680
who did a lot of tech books, who
I was talking to one of my

1028
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:26,280
publisher, friends, he says they
love this agent, and they take

1029
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,320
anything and keep because he
would actually encourage his

1030
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,220
writers to sign the dummy
contract. Cool. Yeah, what a

1031
00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:35,520
nice guy. Anyway, so you get
this dummy contract, and then

1032
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,470
you just change it to wherever
you want. But typically, with a

1033
00:56:37,470 --> 00:56:42,180
big advance, you'll get 1/3
right away. And of the money

1034
00:56:42,210 --> 00:56:44,940
here, here's your money. And by
the way, and if you don't turn

1035
00:56:44,940 --> 00:56:47,040
in the book, or anything, did,
they have a hard time getting

1036
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,920
that money back, so they have to
you if you don't have a track

1037
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,840
record, you know, they are very
reluctant to do give you a lot

1038
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,170
of money up front, because
they're, I've you know,

1039
00:56:58,170 --> 00:57:02,370
situations do occur where you,
the book isn't cancelled, or, or

1040
00:57:02,370 --> 00:57:05,580
you can't do it, or they or the
project change, or the editor

1041
00:57:05,580 --> 00:57:07,860
quit. I mean, there's a million
possibilities, and you end up

1042
00:57:07,860 --> 00:57:11,820
with this money. And they really
don't, it's almost impossible to

1043
00:57:11,820 --> 00:57:14,370
get it back. Unless you go back
to that publisher and have to do

1044
00:57:14,370 --> 00:57:17,040
another book deal with them,
then that money is still

1045
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,490
somewhere on the books. And it's
like you get screwed, right, you

1046
00:57:20,490 --> 00:57:23,940
get you get money goes away, it
gets recouped. It's just like

1047
00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:26,940
the record business. Right. And
so anyway, so you get a third

1048
00:57:26,940 --> 00:57:29,820
upfront, and then when you
deliver the manuscript

1049
00:57:29,820 --> 00:57:33,810
officially, even though you
might be doling it out in pieces

1050
00:57:33,810 --> 00:57:36,720
of when the thing is finished,
you get another third. And then

1051
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,260
when it finally hits the street,
you get the last third. In

1052
00:57:40,260 --> 00:57:45,210
smaller advances, you tend to
get half of it right away. And

1053
00:57:45,210 --> 00:57:47,280
then when the book is delivered
to get the other half, and then

1054
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:47,790
you're done,

1055
00:57:48,030 --> 00:57:50,370
I should send you the contract
that just sent over Patricia's

1056
00:57:50,370 --> 00:57:57,090
doing, she wrote a Dutch version
of heatwave. And she's going to

1057
00:57:57,090 --> 00:58:00,180
do it do a duet with this guy's
putting it on his album on our

1058
00:58:00,180 --> 00:58:02,970
on a CD, I should say. And I
should send it over because you

1059
00:58:02,970 --> 00:58:05,790
really laugh when you see that.
First of all, it's like 10%

1060
00:58:06,270 --> 00:58:11,160
versus 10% of the song which in
itself is already 112 of the of

1061
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:16,590
the CD. And then it's and that's
over PPD over retail. So it's

1062
00:58:16,590 --> 00:58:23,610
really 5% of the 12 of the 112.
And then it's after deduction of

1063
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:28,920
like 20% for mechanical
reproduction. But if it's, if

1064
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:29,970
it's for download,

1065
00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:32,699
I'd love to see this kind of you
know, we I have to say this and

1066
00:58:32,699 --> 00:58:35,999
this is kind of obscure, but we
collect contrast, my wife has

1067
00:58:35,999 --> 00:58:39,809
become kind of so many lawyers
she's really good at we don't

1068
00:58:39,809 --> 00:58:42,659
even use lawyers that often
unless it gets really

1069
00:58:42,659 --> 00:58:43,439
complicated.

1070
00:58:43,469 --> 00:58:45,899
You just pull something out of
the archives and just use that.

1071
00:58:46,289 --> 00:58:47,219
Well, we have all this

1072
00:58:47,220 --> 00:58:50,730
language and in fact, when I did
the deal with me video, you

1073
00:58:50,730 --> 00:58:53,010
know, working with Bobby Garcia,
I mean, we pulled a lot of

1074
00:58:53,010 --> 00:58:54,660
contract lengths.

1075
00:58:54,959 --> 00:58:57,119
You signed the fucking dummy
contract. John, what are you

1076
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:00,509
talking about? I saw that. You
know what I'll send you I'll

1077
00:59:00,509 --> 00:59:04,769
send you the how about the MTV
Adam Korea Settlement Agreement?

1078
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:08,190
Yeah, I'd like that too. I mean,
we have a collection of these

1079
00:59:08,190 --> 00:59:12,270
things and we use them, we
actually developed a force

1080
00:59:12,270 --> 00:59:17,580
majeure. Some force majeure
language which you can look up

1081
00:59:18,090 --> 00:59:21,330
for speaking engagements,
because we when I started doing

1082
00:59:21,330 --> 00:59:24,540
a lot of public speaking through
agents, through the speaking

1083
00:59:24,540 --> 00:59:26,100
bureaus, speaking bureaus,

1084
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,790
I don't want to go hunting
figure out some kind of force

1085
00:59:29,790 --> 00:59:31,080
majeure. So I can get out of it.

1086
00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:33,870
Well, no, you have to worry
about that. That's the problem.

1087
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,050
And but none of the speaker's
bureau is used it in their

1088
00:59:37,050 --> 00:59:40,110
contract language. And we
actually developed a contract

1089
00:59:40,110 --> 00:59:44,310
based on the with the basic
template was from the Washington

1090
00:59:44,310 --> 00:59:48,960
speaker's bureau, and then we
modified it and because they had

1091
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,920
a beautiful contract, and then
we modified it, and then we

1092
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,040
added this force majeure thing
and now we present it to other

1093
00:59:56,100 --> 00:59:59,220
agents. This is like the
contract we like to use, and

1094
00:59:59,220 --> 01:00:02,160
they look at it and They all
say, Wow, this is a great idea,

1095
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,900
we'd have to put this in our
contract.

1096
01:00:04,199 --> 01:00:06,929
I can't wait to meet your wife,
man. Maybe I should be doing the

1097
01:00:06,929 --> 01:00:07,649
show with her.

1098
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,870
She's more interesting. So
anyway, but anyway, the thing

1099
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:16,860
is, is a contract is are in some
ways, almost like folklore,

1100
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,920
because they get passed around
and rewritten and it gets to the

1101
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,590
point where you look at them,
you can look at a contract, in

1102
01:00:22,620 --> 01:00:26,550
effect, the contract I did
originally with CBS, when it was

1103
01:00:26,550 --> 01:00:30,000
CBS MarketWatch before it became
Dow Jones, we had to really

1104
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,460
spend a lot of time on it,
because it was a really crappy

1105
01:00:32,460 --> 01:00:35,490
contract. It was written for
broadcasters, not writers,

1106
01:00:35,550 --> 01:00:38,640
right. And I've seen this before
where somebody you know, comes

1107
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,580
in and they say, we use this and
they use this, you know, wrong

1108
01:00:41,580 --> 01:00:44,430
contract. And we actually
probably helped them get their

1109
01:00:44,430 --> 01:00:47,280
contract straightened out. So
it's right, for the you know,

1110
01:00:47,310 --> 01:00:50,580
for the right purposes. But you
can look at contracts really

1111
01:00:50,580 --> 01:00:52,980
quickly and say, this is written
by somebody that doesn't know

1112
01:00:52,980 --> 01:00:56,460
what they're doing. And the
typical giveaway, and I don't

1113
01:00:56,460 --> 01:00:59,880
want to beat this to death. But
the typical giveaway for a

1114
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:04,110
crappy contract writer is that
the language is very legalese.

1115
01:01:04,110 --> 01:01:08,460
And really complicated when a
good contract is simple to read

1116
01:01:08,460 --> 01:01:09,390
and understand.

1117
01:01:09,420 --> 01:01:15,990
So this morphs perfectly into
the next topic, which is the

1118
01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:21,600
contract known as the Lisbon
Treaty in Europe. Okay, are you

1119
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:27,750
familiar with this? Nope. Okay.
You will recall in 2005, there

1120
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:32,070
was a European Constitution
poured, put forth to all 27

1121
01:01:32,070 --> 01:01:37,440
member states, and two countries
voted it down in a referendum.

1122
01:01:37,830 --> 01:01:39,330
Do you recall which two
countries?

1123
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,650
Well, I don't know. It'd be
Norway and Switzerland?

1124
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,220
No, France and the Netherlands?
Oh, right. Right. This

1125
01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:49,470
is the one Yeah, yeah. No, I'm
thinking Norway and Switzerland

1126
01:01:49,470 --> 01:01:53,760
didn't even get involved in
this. They just said no. But you

1127
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,190
right, where those are. And this
became the big controversy. This

1128
01:01:56,190 --> 01:02:00,030
was a news for like, months on
end when these when they you

1129
01:02:00,030 --> 01:02:02,070
know, especially the French, you
know, they're gonna let's do

1130
01:02:02,070 --> 01:02:05,370
want to make the EU the EU let
these guys sign off on this. And

1131
01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:06,390
now we vote against it.

1132
01:02:06,449 --> 01:02:09,689
Exactly. So, you know, so I
didn't pay much attention to it

1133
01:02:09,689 --> 01:02:12,929
in 2005. My wife had, you know
what she was ill. And so, you

1134
01:02:12,929 --> 01:02:16,559
know, I was paying attention to
other things. And also, I was in

1135
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:19,109
between countries I couldn't
even read I think we just moved

1136
01:02:19,109 --> 01:02:21,539
here. I couldn't really even
vote on it. I don't think I was

1137
01:02:21,539 --> 01:02:25,829
kind of like an illegal status
for a while there. And so now

1138
01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:28,919
this thing crops up called the
Lisbon Treaty. And I didn't pay

1139
01:02:28,919 --> 01:02:32,609
any attention to it. Until you
know, all this stuff starts

1140
01:02:32,609 --> 01:02:34,949
surfacing. And of course, the my
audience known as the

1141
01:02:34,949 --> 01:02:37,559
chuckleheads, they start sending
me all these links about

1142
01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:41,039
Ireland, like Ireland is the
only country that can now save

1143
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:44,249
Europe from you know, the evil
politicians in Brussels. You

1144
01:02:44,249 --> 01:02:45,359
know, me so Right,

1145
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,730
right. Right. This has been
coming up over the last week or

1146
01:02:47,730 --> 01:02:48,450
so. Okay.

1147
01:02:48,449 --> 01:02:52,919
Yes, exactly. And I'll tell you
why. Because June 12, which is

1148
01:02:52,919 --> 01:02:56,549
what is that? Five days, five
days from now. That's when

1149
01:02:56,759 --> 01:03:03,149
Ireland is the only country in
the only state in the union to

1150
01:03:03,149 --> 01:03:06,149
hold a referendum on this. And
of course, all 27 states have to

1151
01:03:06,149 --> 01:03:08,729
say yes to this Lisbon Treaty.
So I got interested in it. And

1152
01:03:08,729 --> 01:03:12,209
I'm like, I'm not gonna go read
this fucking Lisbon Treaty. And

1153
01:03:12,239 --> 01:03:14,909
so, you know, we discussed this
last week, I think, you know,

1154
01:03:14,909 --> 01:03:18,119
the everything in Europe is
published, but it's published

1155
01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:22,949
this raw form, there's rarely a
translation for the common man.

1156
01:03:22,949 --> 01:03:26,039
So it's a real struggle, but
it's in any 27 language, or more

1157
01:03:26,039 --> 01:03:28,529
than that, like 30 languages,
everything's translated, they

1158
01:03:28,529 --> 01:03:32,399
spend a billion euros a year on
translations alone. But it's

1159
01:03:32,399 --> 01:03:35,099
great. So I'm like, let me go to
the reader Lisbon Treaty, and

1160
01:03:35,099 --> 01:03:38,699
I'm looking at this thing, John,
like, what is this? And it's all

1161
01:03:38,729 --> 01:03:44,489
all it is, is? What would you
call it? References to this

1162
01:03:44,489 --> 01:03:48,599
original Constitution? Like, so
it would say,

1163
01:03:49,230 --> 01:03:51,330
Well, wait, how big is this
document?

1164
01:03:53,730 --> 01:04:01,530
Like 70 pages? Okay. Just, it's
like a contract. It really is.

1165
01:04:01,530 --> 01:04:04,830
And it's exactly like a contract
because what the Lisbon Treaty

1166
01:04:04,830 --> 01:04:10,230
is, it says, okay, in reference
to, you know, the original

1167
01:04:10,230 --> 01:04:14,460
document, the original
Constitution, change all words,

1168
01:04:14,730 --> 01:04:19,200
like ECU, which used to be Yeah,
that was the European Currency

1169
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,550
Unit, change that to Europe. So,
you know, that means basically,

1170
01:04:23,550 --> 01:04:26,640
this document is that document
with these changes. And the most

1171
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,300
important change, of course, was
everywhere you reference in that

1172
01:04:30,330 --> 01:04:33,210
original document to the word
constitution. We now replace

1173
01:04:33,210 --> 01:04:36,630
that with Lisbon Treaty. And the
reason, you know, of course,

1174
01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:40,350
this is what the conspiracy
theorists say is, and in fact,

1175
01:04:40,380 --> 01:04:43,710
Angela Merkel was heard saying
this, by not calling it a

1176
01:04:43,710 --> 01:04:48,300
constitution, the member states
had no obligation legally or

1177
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:51,390
morally to call a referendum on
it. So hey, it's not a

1178
01:04:51,390 --> 01:04:54,480
constitution guys. It's a
treaty, but the treaty is just a

1179
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:59,280
it's just a legal document of
search and replace. So then I go

1180
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,870
and read the The Constitution
and like what in the

1181
01:05:03,870 --> 01:05:09,030
Constitution in itself has
referenced his two protocol

1182
01:05:09,030 --> 01:05:12,780
documents. So, you know, people
send me some links and stuff and

1183
01:05:12,780 --> 01:05:16,680
I'm looking at is like, the
right to freedom, you know, some

1184
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,410
of the basic human rights which
are now you know, I wish I

1185
01:05:19,410 --> 01:05:24,360
presumed we're going to be meant
only for, you know, for the for

1186
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,270
the entire union. And it's like,
well, you know, you cannot be

1187
01:05:27,270 --> 01:05:32,550
incarcerated, you know, without,
without just cause unless you

1188
01:05:33,210 --> 01:05:36,960
have a transmittable disease you
are an alcoholic, a drug addict

1189
01:05:36,990 --> 01:05:42,360
or a vagrant? Mike, that's going
to be a fucking constitution, or

1190
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,910
like, wow, like the death
penalty you cannot be put to

1191
01:05:44,910 --> 01:05:50,310
death. Unless you try to escape
or if you are running away from

1192
01:05:50,340 --> 01:05:55,380
a legal arrest, you know, then
then you being accidentally or

1193
01:05:55,380 --> 01:06:00,120
on purposely killed would not be
seen as, as a violation of the

1194
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:04,500
Constitution. So I'm like, I'm
like tripping out over this. I'm

1195
01:06:04,500 --> 01:06:08,250
like, This is amazing shit. And
now I understand why Ireland is

1196
01:06:08,250 --> 01:06:11,040
such a big deal. So you know,
I'm doing this radio show in

1197
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:11,580
Holland.

1198
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,550
But wait, you get you got to
explain why Ireland is such a

1199
01:06:14,550 --> 01:06:15,450
big deal. I

1200
01:06:15,449 --> 01:06:18,269
did explain because they they're
the only country that has a

1201
01:06:18,269 --> 01:06:21,329
referendum in every single every
other country. This is now being

1202
01:06:21,329 --> 01:06:25,139
ratified. So last week, it was
ratified in the Netherlands,

1203
01:06:25,349 --> 01:06:27,689
which means that the the
government basically has a

1204
01:06:27,689 --> 01:06:30,509
little debate, and then it's
like, okay, that was nice

1205
01:06:30,509 --> 01:06:33,869
opposition, guys. Thanks for
speaking up. And I was ratified.

1206
01:06:33,869 --> 01:06:39,089
So now the Lisbon Treaty is put
into law, and the only country

1207
01:06:39,089 --> 01:06:43,139
that has a referendum is
Ireland. And if they say no,

1208
01:06:43,139 --> 01:06:44,999
then it's off the table for
everybody.

1209
01:06:45,929 --> 01:06:48,689
Oh, so then I hope they say no.

1210
01:06:49,469 --> 01:06:52,709
Well, so anyway, so I want to
investigate. And so I'm doing

1211
01:06:52,709 --> 01:06:57,179
this radio show. And I say, you
know, call up the call someone

1212
01:06:57,179 --> 01:07:00,899
up call someone who's in this
debate. And so I get the leader

1213
01:07:00,899 --> 01:07:06,089
of the one of the Democratic
parties. And, and I asked him

1214
01:07:06,089 --> 01:07:08,249
these questions. I said, What
the hell is this? He's like, you

1215
01:07:08,249 --> 01:07:10,859
know, honestly, I have no idea
what you're talking about, like,

1216
01:07:10,859 --> 01:07:12,929
Well, have you read this thing?
He said, it's very hard to read,

1217
01:07:12,929 --> 01:07:17,279
isn't it? Like, yeah, hell yeah.
Is it constitution is once you

1218
01:07:17,279 --> 01:07:20,009
make it simple, like, you know,
like the American constitution.

1219
01:07:20,249 --> 01:07:23,339
So he says, Okay, I will ask
this question to the, to the

1220
01:07:23,339 --> 01:07:28,139
Minister of Foreign Affairs in,
in Parliament today. And dude,

1221
01:07:28,139 --> 01:07:31,169
so I'm watching this, and I'm
taping it. And he actually says,

1222
01:07:31,199 --> 01:07:36,119
you know, Adam curry asked me
this morning. He's like, even a

1223
01:07:36,119 --> 01:07:38,069
step further. He says, you know,
this morning, I was on the

1224
01:07:38,069 --> 01:07:40,469
arrow, classic rock, and the
Adam curry asked me these

1225
01:07:40,469 --> 01:07:42,689
questions, and you know, and I
really

1226
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,990
didn't know how to just fallen
on the floor. I had a

1227
01:07:45,989 --> 01:07:49,979
boner from here to Tokyo. And,
and then he takes it one step

1228
01:07:49,979 --> 01:07:52,619
further, he says to the actually
not the minister, but the the

1229
01:07:52,619 --> 01:07:55,679
Secretary of Foreign Affairs, he
says, so I understand, Mr.

1230
01:07:55,679 --> 01:07:58,679
Secretary, that you're going to
appear on the show tomorrow. So

1231
01:07:58,679 --> 01:08:01,889
why don't you rehearse your
answer? Now, while before you go

1232
01:08:01,889 --> 01:08:03,539
and talk to Mr. Curry about it?
I'm

1233
01:08:03,540 --> 01:08:06,120
like, Man, this is cool.

1234
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,140
But anyway, so you know, it
turns out that there is, what

1235
01:08:10,140 --> 01:08:15,360
they've done, is they've taken
the rain, so across all of

1236
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,230
Europe, the ranges from you
know, you cannot be killed under

1237
01:08:19,230 --> 01:08:22,770
any circumstances to this very
broad. Well, if you try to run

1238
01:08:22,770 --> 01:08:24,900
away while we're trying to
arrest you, and we kill you,

1239
01:08:24,900 --> 01:08:27,090
then you know, that's not
illegal, that would not

1240
01:08:27,090 --> 01:08:30,990
constitute a violation of your,
of your basic human rights

1241
01:08:30,990 --> 01:08:34,410
according to the Constitution.
And each individual country gets

1242
01:08:34,410 --> 01:08:37,170
to implement the version they
want. That's how it's gonna

1243
01:08:37,170 --> 01:08:41,130
work. So anyway, it's very
suspicious, no one understands

1244
01:08:41,130 --> 01:08:44,580
what the hell is in the
document. It's unreadable. And I

1245
01:08:44,580 --> 01:08:47,640
think the reason why the Dutch
and the French said No, three

1246
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,720
years ago is because they, you
know, no one read it. They just

1247
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,480
were pissed off about the euro,
and they weren't happy. And it's

1248
01:08:54,480 --> 01:08:57,240
like, you guys want something?
Screw you. We're gonna say no.

1249
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,910
So anyway, this is now bubbling
up, you know, and there's a lot

1250
01:08:59,910 --> 01:09:02,100
of posting about it on the
internet and doesn't you know,

1251
01:09:02,130 --> 01:09:05,820
it's a it's a big campaign, you
can see it happening. And the

1252
01:09:05,820 --> 01:09:07,980
numbers according to the
Financial Times has shifted

1253
01:09:07,980 --> 01:09:12,420
dramatically where the beginning
of the week, they expected 41%

1254
01:09:12,420 --> 01:09:17,130
to say yes, 35% to say no, and
now they're expecting 35% to say

1255
01:09:17,130 --> 01:09:21,240
yes and 30% to say no. And it's,
it's pretty fundamentally you

1256
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,810
know, it is it's it is a
constitution is it's fascinating

1257
01:09:24,810 --> 01:09:25,440
to watch.

1258
01:09:26,010 --> 01:09:28,590
Okay, so I while you were
talking about that, which is

1259
01:09:28,590 --> 01:09:31,860
interesting. I just did this, as
an aside is the glue callback

1260
01:09:31,860 --> 01:09:36,840
here. Using again, Twitter, the
real Dvorak, I just typed in

1261
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,230
Does anyone remember Jane
Seymour series on PBS in Japan,

1262
01:09:40,530 --> 01:09:44,670
and the date and the name and I
know Tony course, Twitter, I got

1263
01:09:44,670 --> 01:09:48,480
22,000 people, you know that. So
it's like, you know, there's a

1264
01:09:48,540 --> 01:09:55,350
bunch of geniuses. So J. J. J. J
Trosper. says it was called

1265
01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:59,010
Japan and it was done in 1988.
Just playing Japan.

1266
01:09:59,730 --> 01:10:02,640
You know, I'm so happy that you
took me out of my European

1267
01:10:03,060 --> 01:10:06,720
Time. Sorry, I just, yeah, well,
this was kind of Europeans.

1268
01:10:06,810 --> 01:10:11,130
Jason was from England. Let me
say back to that. I'm sorry. But

1269
01:10:11,130 --> 01:10:12,630
back to that topic. All right.

1270
01:10:12,690 --> 01:10:15,150
It's boring. Most people that's
the problem most people think is

1271
01:10:15,150 --> 01:10:16,920
boring. They don't think about
it. They don't think that you

1272
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,110
know that they could, you know,
this shit life

1273
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:21,600
always surprised that he's
gotten this far to be honest

1274
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,440
about it. If anyone you know, if
you've anyone who's known me,

1275
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:28,380
since the EU was first
formulated as knowing I've been,

1276
01:10:28,410 --> 01:10:32,970
you know, sceptical, because of
stuff like this. And I still

1277
01:10:32,970 --> 01:10:37,110
don't understand how the French
and the Germans can ever agreed

1278
01:10:37,110 --> 01:10:39,900
anything at that level. I mean,
they're already telling the

1279
01:10:39,900 --> 01:10:41,400
French how to make cheese.

1280
01:10:41,580 --> 01:10:45,060
Meanwhile, the Germans just
passed the National Law, that

1281
01:10:45,060 --> 01:10:50,970
now by law, law enforcement
officials can monitor and invade

1282
01:10:50,970 --> 01:10:55,230
your computer via the internet,
and they can hang up covert

1283
01:10:55,230 --> 01:10:56,580
cameras in your house.

1284
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:04,260
Just for no good reason. Now you
got to have a reason. Let's use

1285
01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:06,690
your doesn't say you have to
have a reason or they just feel

1286
01:11:06,690 --> 01:11:06,840
like

1287
01:11:07,170 --> 01:11:10,200
I'm my, my German is not good
enough to read the actual lie I

1288
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,420
have. Maybe I could find an
English version of it, I'll find

1289
01:11:12,420 --> 01:11:12,720
out.

1290
01:11:13,170 --> 01:11:15,270
Well, let me ask my Twitter
group, if somebody can translate

1291
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:18,180
on the spot. While you're doing,
I

1292
01:11:18,180 --> 01:11:21,060
got one for your Twitter group.
This is cool. So I'm nosing

1293
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:24,060
around, there's a new law going
into effect. Now, of course,

1294
01:11:24,060 --> 01:11:26,700
this is not something that they
can choose on a national level

1295
01:11:26,700 --> 01:11:29,880
in Europe. But this is a
European law. It's something

1296
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,490
that we've had in America for as
long as I can remember, actually

1297
01:11:32,490 --> 01:11:35,040
only the of course, now with the
exchange rates, it's a little

1298
01:11:35,070 --> 01:11:40,470
skewed. You may no longer
transport more than 10,000 euros

1299
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,580
in cash, or in other, you know,
like traveler's checks or

1300
01:11:44,580 --> 01:11:48,120
anything like that, in or out of
the European Union without

1301
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:48,930
declaring it.

1302
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,340
And then they give me this
again, because this is the this

1303
01:11:53,340 --> 01:11:54,960
has always been the case with
the US.

1304
01:11:55,140 --> 01:11:58,680
Yeah. So you know, this is, what
they're saying is this is for

1305
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:03,870
two reasons, you know, for money
laundering, and financing of

1306
01:12:03,870 --> 01:12:08,670
terrorism, of course, you can no
longer enter or leave the

1307
01:12:08,670 --> 01:12:12,660
European Union with more than
10,000 euros in cash or other,

1308
01:12:13,170 --> 01:12:18,180
you know, faceless, nameless
cash equivalents without

1309
01:12:18,210 --> 01:12:22,350
registering it. And now it's
like, alright, well,

1310
01:12:22,380 --> 01:12:25,440
obviously, you just can't you
just do a money transfer?

1311
01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:27,780
Oh, yeah. Have you ever heard of
Swift?

1312
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,350
So I'm thinking, Yeah, well,
yeah,

1313
01:12:31,379 --> 01:12:34,319
Swift is, you know, the CIA taps
into Swift.

1314
01:12:34,980 --> 01:12:38,730
The wells, the money still big
gets moved? Yeah. But you

1315
01:12:38,730 --> 01:12:43,740
know, it's like, you have to
declare it, you know, it's what

1316
01:12:43,740 --> 01:12:46,290
you do with your money should be
your business, unless you're

1317
01:12:46,290 --> 01:12:49,650
doing illegal activity. But
anyway, so that's beyond the

1318
01:12:49,650 --> 01:12:52,050
point. Because here's, here's
what popped up. And this is a

1319
01:12:52,050 --> 01:12:54,480
story that's been around for a
while as well. So they don't

1320
01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:57,750
have that at the airports. They
now have money sniffing dogs,

1321
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,180
literally, the Donald and
interesting,

1322
01:13:00,180 --> 01:13:02,970
you know, because I, I'm a big
fan of these dogs, by the way,

1323
01:13:02,970 --> 01:13:05,520
and I'm always every time I see
when I asked the guy what kind

1324
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,640
of a dog it is. I say, is it a
bomb dog? I know there's bomb

1325
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,570
dogs. There's fruit dogs, you
know, looking for fruit? They

1326
01:13:12,570 --> 01:13:15,540
they're all over to Hawaii. And
because they don't want you're

1327
01:13:15,540 --> 01:13:19,020
bringing fruit to Hawaii. And
there's his bomb dogs, two dogs

1328
01:13:19,020 --> 01:13:21,510
and drug dogs. I did not know
there was the money dog.

1329
01:13:24,690 --> 01:13:25,680
Oh, you still there?

1330
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:28,110
Yeah, barely. Okay, sorry.

1331
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:34,080
Yeah, so they have money, money
sniffing dogs. Wow, that's cool.

1332
01:13:34,350 --> 01:13:38,910
But now, so what pops up on the
radar? Up pops on the radar,

1333
01:13:38,910 --> 01:13:41,520
this story, which is pretty
interesting, because you can

1334
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:45,150
kind of prove it. That, you
know, obviously, with this new

1335
01:13:45,150 --> 01:13:47,910
law going into effect, that's
not the most effective way to

1336
01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:51,390
try to track money or to see how
much money you've got to

1337
01:13:51,390 --> 01:13:56,700
apparently, now in as far as I
can tell the in the lower

1338
01:13:56,700 --> 01:14:01,230
denomination notes. The rumour
is that there is an RFID chip

1339
01:14:01,230 --> 01:14:05,910
implanted in the Euro bill in
the currency. And you can check

1340
01:14:05,910 --> 01:14:10,470
this, this is great. You put
either a five a 10, or a 20 euro

1341
01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:13,860
note into the microwave, and you
turn it on and within like a

1342
01:14:13,860 --> 01:14:17,040
second, you'll hear a pop, and
there'll be a little hole right

1343
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,980
off to the centre of the paper.
And that's supposed to be the

1344
01:14:19,980 --> 01:14:22,860
chip that explodes because of
the microwaves. You know, I

1345
01:14:22,860 --> 01:14:26,370
find this to be a folklore
thing. And I suspect that the

1346
01:14:26,370 --> 01:14:30,600
thing exploding may be some sort
of metallic ink. Well, and I'll

1347
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,360
tell you why. Because I don't
think you can make an RFID chip

1348
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:33,990
that small.

1349
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,440
No, man this is this is what
I've been looking into. They're

1350
01:14:37,470 --> 01:14:41,820
getting it down to like 50
microns is outrageous. Really.

1351
01:14:41,820 --> 01:14:44,190
Yeah. Because it has it doesn't
need a power source. You know,

1352
01:14:44,190 --> 01:14:47,130
it's activated the way the RFID
chip works, you know it it's

1353
01:14:47,130 --> 01:14:50,610
it's passive. Yeah, you activate
it with like a magnet magnetic

1354
01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:54,210
field and then yeah, thank you
with induction and then it sends

1355
01:14:54,210 --> 01:14:55,920
back its identifier,

1356
01:14:56,340 --> 01:14:59,460
but ya know, the induction
triggers to the circuit and it

1357
01:14:59,460 --> 01:15:03,510
turns it on. And essentially,
and then it says, Hi, I'm here.

1358
01:15:03,540 --> 01:15:06,330
Here's my name then Right? Yeah,
there's my number, whatever,

1359
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,090
right? But so I've done this,
I've done this with all

1360
01:15:09,090 --> 01:15:11,130
different notes, you put it in
the in, you put in the

1361
01:15:11,130 --> 01:15:15,270
microwave, and then it pops.
Now, I've asked the guy from the

1362
01:15:15,270 --> 01:15:18,690
RFID business platform, I have a
call into the Minister of

1363
01:15:18,690 --> 01:15:21,000
Finance, because now I've got a
radio show, I can get all these

1364
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:25,050
fuckers on the phones pretty
funny. And I said, you know, so

1365
01:15:25,050 --> 01:15:27,510
what's the deal? And so the RFID
platform guy says, I don't

1366
01:15:27,510 --> 01:15:30,000
really know, and I've heard this
too, but, you know, I hear this

1367
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,160
little piece of wire in there
that is seen, you know, for

1368
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,850
counterfeit purposes. And I'm
like, okay, so I go to the, you

1369
01:15:35,850 --> 01:15:39,900
know, to the the European Union
money website, and it says,

1370
01:15:39,900 --> 01:15:43,860
here's the five ways that we've
baked into the currency. You

1371
01:15:43,860 --> 01:15:46,440
have for you to able identify if
it's authentic or not, none of

1372
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:49,650
which is talking about some kind
of wire that's in there. You

1373
01:15:49,650 --> 01:15:51,570
know, there's and it's not
anywhere near anything that

1374
01:15:51,570 --> 01:15:55,620
looks metallic and it's popped
with a little hole, John, I'm

1375
01:15:55,620 --> 01:15:59,250
Cat kitten, man, right? In the
same spot, and every single bill

1376
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:05,310
Hmm. You know, I've been I've
been looking into this RFID

1377
01:16:05,310 --> 01:16:08,820
shit, man, that's pretty
awesome. It's an everything.

1378
01:16:08,850 --> 01:16:12,900
It's in your clothes. It's in
your like your jeans. It's, you

1379
01:16:12,900 --> 01:16:17,100
know, these chips are absolutely
everywhere. And they now and

1380
01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:20,220
they're making them. I think you
can get them commercially. You

1381
01:16:20,220 --> 01:16:23,880
could even buy them yourself for
like, they're like 0.4

1382
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,660
millimetres, which is already
pretty small. But yeah, they're

1383
01:16:27,660 --> 01:16:31,470
trying to now they're, I
understand the next level

1384
01:16:31,470 --> 01:16:35,430
they're trying to go below is 50
microns. I have no idea how big

1385
01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:38,700
that is. But it sounds like you
want to see it?

1386
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,210
No. And then the thing is, how
much data can it hold? I mean,

1387
01:16:42,210 --> 01:16:45,660
it's just an identifier can't
really have any information. You

1388
01:16:45,660 --> 01:16:46,110
can't you

1389
01:16:46,110 --> 01:16:49,470
can't rewrite them. And of
course, the problem is, is

1390
01:16:49,470 --> 01:16:53,250
always the antenna. You know,
the the chip is one thing, but

1391
01:16:53,250 --> 01:16:56,670
if you want to have any kind of
reach at the antenna has to be a

1392
01:16:56,670 --> 01:17:00,060
certain dimensions. These higher
frequencies are the most

1393
01:17:00,060 --> 01:17:03,270
desired. It's fascinating
technology, and really is, you

1394
01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:05,550
know, but also the just the idea
of you know, so there is this

1395
01:17:05,550 --> 01:17:09,210
data of all this stuff that is
just not really broadcasting,

1396
01:17:09,210 --> 01:17:10,200
but it's accessible.

1397
01:17:10,590 --> 01:17:11,970
So you cook and all your money.

1398
01:17:13,050 --> 01:17:15,030
I cooked about eight bills.
Yeah.

1399
01:17:16,380 --> 01:17:19,500
Well, now Now, having said that,
of course, I'm sure surprises

1400
01:17:19,500 --> 01:17:23,520
are not over there knocking on
your door. What would prevent

1401
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,910
somebody who's of you know, who
was a criminal that wanted to

1402
01:17:26,970 --> 01:17:30,930
smuggle out, you know, $100,000
in a money belt, just from

1403
01:17:30,930 --> 01:17:37,350
cooking all his money in advance
of the of the induction? Do

1404
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:38,370
whatever the receiver has

1405
01:17:38,669 --> 01:17:41,069
happened? Well, I mean, if you
really want to smuggle out a

1406
01:17:41,069 --> 01:17:43,319
significant amount of money, you
know, you're gonna be popping a

1407
01:17:43,319 --> 01:17:47,309
lot of individual bills. It's
not really simple. And, you

1408
01:17:47,309 --> 01:17:50,459
know, by itself as it is pretty
suspicious looking. I haven't

1409
01:17:50,459 --> 01:17:52,589
tried to spend it yet but you
know, there's a hole in the

1410
01:17:52,589 --> 01:17:52,919
bill.

1411
01:17:53,550 --> 01:17:55,950
Oh, how big is the hole? It's
just a little pinhole though,

1412
01:17:55,950 --> 01:17:56,940
right? No, no, it's

1413
01:17:56,940 --> 01:18:01,980
like a little, I'd say about the
size of an eraser on a pencil.

1414
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:07,080
Well, you know, it probably not.
You mentioned the guy did say it

1415
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,320
was about counterfeiting. I'm
sure it might be actually about

1416
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:11,040
counterfeiting

1417
01:18:11,070 --> 01:18:13,680
here. But then why wouldn't they
list that as one of the ways to

1418
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:14,190
see if it's

1419
01:18:14,369 --> 01:18:16,529
because they don't want a bunch
of people like you out there

1420
01:18:16,559 --> 01:18:19,019
smoking the bill, just as a
joke? Yeah, but

1421
01:18:19,919 --> 01:18:22,979
why not? It's my money if I want
to burn it in the air, or if I

1422
01:18:22,979 --> 01:18:25,079
want to burn it in my microwave,
that's up to me.

1423
01:18:27,180 --> 01:18:29,550
Or maybe they just don't want
people knowing what you know

1424
01:18:29,550 --> 01:18:31,860
that, you know, because you
could probably counterfeit that

1425
01:18:31,860 --> 01:18:34,230
chip. Just as easy as you could
the rest of the crop on that.

1426
01:18:34,440 --> 01:18:36,630
Yeah, I'm sure it's not
encrypted or anything like that.

1427
01:18:36,660 --> 01:18:39,240
I mean, I'm just saying it would
make sense. You know, now you

1428
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,790
could just when you're walking
through customs, you know, the

1429
01:18:41,790 --> 01:18:45,930
sensor could go oh, well, that's
quite a lot of, you know, 20

1430
01:18:45,930 --> 01:18:49,140
pound note and 20 Euro pound
notes you have there, sir. You

1431
01:18:49,140 --> 01:18:55,920
know. BBB BBB BBB? I'm sure
someone out there has dialled in

1432
01:18:56,190 --> 01:18:59,400
on it. Yeah, but I'm gonna. I'm
gonna ask the Minister of

1433
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,110
Finance. He's not the best I can
do.

1434
01:19:02,220 --> 01:19:04,230
Both. I'll tell you. You're
right. You're up there. Now. I

1435
01:19:04,230 --> 01:19:05,280
feel like a loser.

1436
01:19:06,090 --> 01:19:11,310
No Man's from Holland. Dude. No
one cares. Holland is below

1437
01:19:11,310 --> 01:19:12,000
Ireland.

1438
01:19:13,590 --> 01:19:15,990
Have you checked bills from
other countries because every

1439
01:19:15,990 --> 01:19:17,520
country prints their own euros.

1440
01:19:18,030 --> 01:19:21,870
There's actually I haven't tried
this yet. Because I don't think

1441
01:19:21,870 --> 01:19:25,050
I have any the new $20 bills
apparently have the same

1442
01:19:25,620 --> 01:19:26,730
characteristics.

1443
01:19:27,569 --> 01:19:29,279
You got a 20? Euro bill from

1444
01:19:29,310 --> 01:19:30,270
England? No, no. The

1445
01:19:30,270 --> 01:19:32,910
$20 bill, the new $20 bills.

1446
01:19:33,209 --> 01:19:38,069
The $20. US Bill. Yeah, yeah.
The purple ones. The new ng con.

1447
01:19:38,489 --> 01:19:39,449
Yeah, yeah.

1448
01:19:39,810 --> 01:19:46,230
There's this is just Google it
man. Google $20 Bill RFID. Yes.

1449
01:19:47,010 --> 01:19:47,910
Your Google I

1450
01:19:47,910 --> 01:19:54,510
have. I have a wallet from I've
actually plugged this I think on

1451
01:19:54,510 --> 01:19:57,150
my PC mag calm some time ago.
But there's a guy down in

1452
01:19:57,150 --> 01:19:59,880
Southern California who makes
these really nice wallets that

1453
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:02,970
have Have the Faraday cage built
into them?

1454
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:07,650
Oh, yeah. So that the canta
nothing penetrates it. Right?

1455
01:20:07,740 --> 01:20:10,140
Yeah, I've seen those online.
You go check this out. Here's a

1456
01:20:10,140 --> 01:20:15,390
picture. There's a picture to
your now of the $20. Bills.

1457
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:21,060
prison planet. Holy cow, this
guy cooked these bills. Yeah.

1458
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,680
RFID tags and new US notes
explode when you try to

1459
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,730
microwave them to say those are
the big you got jet. Jackson's

1460
01:20:29,730 --> 01:20:30,930
head is blown off. And

1461
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,650
it's in the same spot every
single time. Yeah.

1462
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:36,870
This is interesting.

1463
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,480
And that's about the same spot
where it's embedded in the in

1464
01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:40,410
the Euro bills.

1465
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,910
Yeah, man, you can blog this?
Yeah, got a lot of stuff to blog

1466
01:20:44,940 --> 01:20:46,830
on there. I won't get to half of
it. That's why

1467
01:20:46,830 --> 01:20:48,750
I don't send you this shit, man.
Because I know you're gonna blog

1468
01:20:48,750 --> 01:20:50,790
that before we talk about and
take all the glory.

1469
01:20:52,350 --> 01:20:55,200
How many bills is this guy did
the picture that's funny here,

1470
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,570
which for people aren't watching
this, but it's on prison planet,

1471
01:20:57,570 --> 01:20:58,470
you can probably look it up.

1472
01:20:59,340 --> 01:21:02,370
It's looked like he's probably
fried about 15. Looks like

1473
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:09,690
he's got like 12345 times 420 20
bills, plus two more 20 to be

1474
01:21:09,690 --> 01:21:12,960
taken. How many bills do you
have to blow up before you get a

1475
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:14,910
clue? Just like this.

1476
01:21:15,270 --> 01:21:17,640
Check this out. He says I want
to share an event with you that

1477
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:19,950
we're experiencing this evening,
you gotta read this story. Dave

1478
01:21:19,950 --> 01:21:23,370
had over $1,000 in his back
pocket in his wallet, new 20s

1479
01:21:23,370 --> 01:21:25,350
where the lion's share of the
bills in his wallet, we walk

1480
01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:28,350
into a truckstop travel Plaza.
And they have those electronic

1481
01:21:28,350 --> 01:21:30,150
monitors that are supposed to
say if you were stealing

1482
01:21:30,150 --> 01:21:34,140
something, but through every
monitor, Dave set it off. He did

1483
01:21:34,140 --> 01:21:37,110
not. He did not have anything to
purchase in his hands or

1484
01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:39,480
pockets, after numerous times is
saying these off of person

1485
01:21:39,480 --> 01:21:42,180
approach day with a one to swipe
in. Anyway, so that's why the

1486
01:21:42,180 --> 01:21:45,450
guy started trying, you know,
Fridays bills to see if if there

1487
01:21:45,450 --> 01:21:50,160
was something in there, too. If
he's setting off, you know,

1488
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:51,900
security gates.

1489
01:21:54,390 --> 01:21:57,420
Well, I'm gonna have to get into
this minute to talk to my wallet

1490
01:21:57,420 --> 01:21:58,230
making buddy.

1491
01:21:58,440 --> 01:22:00,840
So apparently had Tachi because
you know people have been

1492
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:04,530
sending me stuff about this, but
how Tachi developed some of this

1493
01:22:04,530 --> 01:22:10,650
technology in like 2000. And I
think it's Phillips and Phillips

1494
01:22:10,650 --> 01:22:13,830
and one other company that are
actually that are supposedly

1495
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:19,170
supplying chips that came that
are being put into paper. I

1496
01:22:19,170 --> 01:22:21,510
don't know if it's true, man.
And you know, and all right, but

1497
01:22:21,510 --> 01:22:24,240
it's just if it's true, it's
okay. But we should know about

1498
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:24,450
it

1499
01:22:25,289 --> 01:22:29,399
was obvious. I mean, these bills
were blowing up for no good

1500
01:22:29,399 --> 01:22:31,679
reason. I mean, people will see
this link later.

1501
01:22:32,730 --> 01:22:34,050
Oh, man, scroll down.

1502
01:22:34,650 --> 01:22:36,450
Nigel. I was saying, Oh, man.

1503
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:40,770
Oh, there's There you go.
There's see there's the 10 euro

1504
01:22:40,770 --> 01:22:43,770
note. See where it's popped?

1505
01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:48,120
Yeah, that's a little hole.
That's a lot smaller than the mu

1506
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,240
s one we the whole head of
Jackson gets blown on us because

1507
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,970
the I think the US paper burns
quicker.

1508
01:22:54,900 --> 01:22:58,740
Like could be. I guess it thinks
catching on fire. Yeah, that's

1509
01:22:58,740 --> 01:22:59,520
what it looks like.

1510
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,880
It just looks I mean, I
wouldn't. I wouldn't. I mean,

1511
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,610
it's just like, I guess you
could take it into the

1512
01:23:05,700 --> 01:23:07,470
are you gonna put us or are you
gonna put a 20 in your

1513
01:23:07,470 --> 01:23:08,490
microphone, microwave?

1514
01:23:08,940 --> 01:23:12,120
Do you want to hear something
funny? I don't have a microwave.

1515
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,050
You don't believe in him? No,
it's not that I don't believe in

1516
01:23:16,050 --> 01:23:19,950
him. I just I don't see the
purpose of him. I mean, you can

1517
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:24,150
really see i All I do is reheat
stuff. And you know, I could do

1518
01:23:24,150 --> 01:23:26,850
that in a million different
ways. It's more practical. I

1519
01:23:26,850 --> 01:23:32,580
like to cook over flames. Yeah,
you know, I'm not a big fan of

1520
01:23:32,580 --> 01:23:36,780
microwave cooking. I think it
makes food tough. I think as a

1521
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,870
DJ only thing that I ever used
one for when I did have one was

1522
01:23:39,870 --> 01:23:44,430
to boil water for tea, and I got
a tea pot kettle, it's just as

1523
01:23:44,430 --> 01:23:45,000
fast.

1524
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,050
We only use it for we don't cook
in it. We only use I think most

1525
01:23:49,050 --> 01:23:50,790
people probably just use it for
reheating.

1526
01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:53,760
And some people use it for
thawing. And I find that there's

1527
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,860
better ways to thought as a
matter of fact, don't

1528
01:23:55,860 --> 01:24:00,630
use upper thigh. Now just so
it's just reheats or may be

1529
01:24:01,140 --> 01:24:03,510
here's the things I might do in
the microwave. I might do a

1530
01:24:03,510 --> 01:24:07,980
potato in the microwave. And if
I want to get one going quick or

1531
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,820
I do happen to like if I'm if
I'll take a corn on the cob. And

1532
01:24:11,820 --> 01:24:16,050
so I'll put butter around the
the ear of corn, put a little

1533
01:24:16,050 --> 01:24:19,740
bit of sugar on it, roll it up
in wax paper and then pop it in

1534
01:24:19,740 --> 01:24:20,490
the microwave

1535
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:23,700
that's an eye roller

1536
01:24:25,770 --> 01:24:26,880
it tastes really good.

1537
01:24:27,300 --> 01:24:31,290
I'm sure it does mozzies let it
give it some more heat and see

1538
01:24:31,290 --> 01:24:36,090
what happens if it needed to
blow up. But no I don't I don't

1539
01:24:36,180 --> 01:24:41,220
you know don't have one in the
house. So in fact I think in

1540
01:24:41,220 --> 01:24:44,610
both houses I got another house
obviously in Washington and I

1541
01:24:44,610 --> 01:24:48,420
think we had one for a while and
then I think we got rid of I

1542
01:24:48,420 --> 01:24:53,370
mean it's just just not a device
I have much use light and own

1543
01:24:53,370 --> 01:24:56,490
and they're ugly. They they're
just horrible looking things so

1544
01:24:56,490 --> 01:24:56,880
they are

1545
01:24:57,030 --> 01:25:01,080
I agree. Anyway quite handy when
you want to See if there's RFID

1546
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:02,370
chips embedded in your money?

1547
01:25:05,069 --> 01:25:07,289
Well, I don't think there's a
question. There's no question

1548
01:25:07,319 --> 01:25:11,309
that that RFID chips are
embedded. I think it is odd that

1549
01:25:11,309 --> 01:25:13,619
no one's talked about it, except
on this show.

1550
01:25:14,099 --> 01:25:16,859
Well, if you look around, you'll
see that people have been doing

1551
01:25:16,859 --> 01:25:19,709
this since 2003. They've been
talking about it, it's like, you

1552
01:25:19,709 --> 01:25:22,649
know, it's one of these things
that you see go in cycles,

1553
01:25:22,649 --> 01:25:24,629
because you know, you do the
research and Googling around.

1554
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:27,599
And even though it's kind of
hard, Google doesn't do database

1555
01:25:27,599 --> 01:25:29,999
searches very well, or the
results are kind of hard to

1556
01:25:29,999 --> 01:25:34,739
organise. But you'll see 2003
There's kind of a little little

1557
01:25:35,069 --> 01:25:39,029
blip there. And then around 2006
have popped up again, and then

1558
01:25:39,029 --> 01:25:41,279
it just died away, you know,
something else happened, I

1559
01:25:41,279 --> 01:25:41,699
guess.

1560
01:25:42,060 --> 01:25:43,350
We as people don't care.

1561
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,800
That's right, let's just ride
this wave until people don't

1562
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:47,400
care again.

1563
01:25:48,450 --> 01:25:53,190
So the hot news over here now
they think about it is the Fast

1564
01:25:53,190 --> 01:25:56,430
Company article on China, which
is a topic that we discussed

1565
01:25:56,430 --> 01:26:00,390
months ago, about how China's
you know, taking stealing, or

1566
01:26:00,390 --> 01:26:02,730
getting or the calm making
arrangements to get all this

1567
01:26:02,730 --> 01:26:06,240
stuff out to Africa, right?
Yeah. So that's the business

1568
01:26:06,270 --> 01:26:09,300
talk shows everybody's are all
over this article, which is

1569
01:26:09,300 --> 01:26:13,020
like, man, we should have known
this before. And we've got you I

1570
01:26:13,020 --> 01:26:16,230
should have written I guess, but
you know, what it was he

1571
01:26:16,230 --> 01:26:18,510
said, You were gonna write about
it. And Mark It was you said it

1572
01:26:18,510 --> 01:26:20,790
was gonna make a great column
you, I think you've said that

1573
01:26:20,790 --> 01:26:21,720
when we talked about it.

1574
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,290
It's too late now. But the thing
I think they overlooked was the

1575
01:26:25,290 --> 01:26:28,590
one aspect which is the most
interesting, which is the fact

1576
01:26:28,590 --> 01:26:33,540
that they do these deals, where
they get a free ride in terms of

1577
01:26:33,570 --> 01:26:39,450
of taxes, in taxes and tariffs.
And they bring all their stuff

1578
01:26:39,450 --> 01:26:42,150
over here, they never finished
the projects that they promised.

1579
01:26:42,330 --> 01:26:45,090
And then they sell everything,
like, you know, they love to do.

1580
01:26:45,390 --> 01:26:48,480
And they put every little vendor
out of business because they

1581
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:51,210
have to pay customs and no and
the Chinese don't. And that's

1582
01:26:51,540 --> 01:26:54,060
seems to be more interesting
than the fact that the Chinese

1583
01:26:54,060 --> 01:26:57,660
are taking all the all the
resources out of Africa, people

1584
01:26:57,660 --> 01:27:00,750
have been, you know, taking
resources out of Africa, you

1585
01:27:00,750 --> 01:27:06,060
know, forever. It's not like,
you know, it's that's what so is

1586
01:27:06,060 --> 01:27:08,340
there he has what is there for
and the Chinese probably need

1587
01:27:08,340 --> 01:27:11,130
more resources than anybody else
right now. And at least there's

1588
01:27:11,130 --> 01:27:14,370
a supply. I mean, otherwise, of
prices of everything, it'd be

1589
01:27:14,370 --> 01:27:15,180
through the ceiling.

1590
01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:17,940
On like, $140 oil.

1591
01:27:19,260 --> 01:27:23,550
Yeah, the oil thing is, so I
would listen to the, you know,

1592
01:27:23,550 --> 01:27:25,530
it's funny, because I talked to
all these people about this oil

1593
01:27:25,530 --> 01:27:28,650
thing. So I was in it was
actually when I was in New York.

1594
01:27:30,180 --> 01:27:36,960
I turned on C span. And they had
the entire hearing about the oil

1595
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:42,450
situation with with what's his
name? George Soros. And this

1596
01:27:42,450 --> 01:27:47,280
guy. Let's see, his last name is
green burger. Kenneth, I think

1597
01:27:47,670 --> 01:27:51,750
green burger, you can look that
up. Or Michael, Michael or KEN I

1598
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:53,220
think is Michael Green Moses,
where

1599
01:27:53,220 --> 01:27:56,250
Soros said it's all speculators
who are driving the price up.

1600
01:27:56,250 --> 01:27:59,610
It's the insurance companies who
are rolling over month to month.

1601
01:27:59,909 --> 01:28:03,929
Yep, which is quotes we've
talked about. And because it's

1602
01:28:03,929 --> 01:28:06,119
pretty obvious, that's what's
going on. But anyway, this

1603
01:28:06,119 --> 01:28:08,219
Greenberger guy that was
actually a lot more interesting

1604
01:28:08,219 --> 01:28:12,419
than he used to be one of these
regulators in the government, I

1605
01:28:12,419 --> 01:28:15,329
guess, to around the year 2000
When they quit or retired or

1606
01:28:15,329 --> 01:28:18,179
whatever. And, and he said
something interesting that

1607
01:28:18,179 --> 01:28:22,349
nobody seems to have picked up
on. He says that there was a law

1608
01:28:22,349 --> 01:28:26,519
that was passed sometime around
in the late 80s, or wherever it

1609
01:28:26,519 --> 01:28:29,939
was just before the energy first
energy crisis that allowed it

1610
01:28:29,939 --> 01:28:35,429
was called the the called the
Enron. The Enron bill or

1611
01:28:35,429 --> 01:28:37,409
something, said there's a he has
a name for a night, but

1612
01:28:37,409 --> 01:28:39,209
unfortunately, I didn't write it
down. Like I said, I didn't

1613
01:28:39,209 --> 01:28:42,269
write anything down. But it's
some it was the thing that

1614
01:28:42,269 --> 01:28:46,259
benefited Enron, it was kind of
snuck into some other bill. And

1615
01:28:46,259 --> 01:28:49,859
it allowed people to trade, you
know, energy in a certain way.

1616
01:28:50,189 --> 01:28:54,989
And it was it was called it was
called the Enron loophole. And

1617
01:28:54,989 --> 01:28:58,259
it made Enron what it was, which
was an energy trading company.

1618
01:28:58,259 --> 01:29:01,349
And so then they closed a
loophole. But according to him,

1619
01:29:01,349 --> 01:29:06,299
they left a loophole open for
this sort of speculation that's

1620
01:29:06,299 --> 01:29:09,599
going on now with with oil and
he says that's the only Lula's

1621
01:29:09,689 --> 01:29:14,069
unregulated speculation. And he
blames mostly the Dubai people

1622
01:29:14,069 --> 01:29:17,939
because there's a Dubai trading
desk, and of London does a group

1623
01:29:17,939 --> 01:29:20,639
in London and those are the guys
doing all the all the heavy

1624
01:29:20,639 --> 01:29:23,489
lifting in this. And then he
named two other American

1625
01:29:23,489 --> 01:29:28,619
companies, Goldman Sachs, and
and what's the other one?

1626
01:29:29,159 --> 01:29:32,489
Goldman Sachs and Amen bears?
No, it wasn't lame, and it was

1627
01:29:32,489 --> 01:29:35,369
the it was one of the ones that
seemed to be unscathed, think

1628
01:29:35,369 --> 01:29:39,659
about it. But anyway, these two
American you know, investment

1629
01:29:39,659 --> 01:29:43,229
bankers they said Morgan
Stanley, he said he said Goldman

1630
01:29:43,229 --> 01:29:47,639
Sachs and Morgan Stanley are in
up to their ears in the in this

1631
01:29:47,639 --> 01:29:52,199
oil scam. So when he says, go
ahead, and until they changed

1632
01:29:52,199 --> 01:29:55,709
the law, were the words they
have to you know, get these guys

1633
01:29:55,709 --> 01:29:58,739
back under regulation because
they're speculating with you

1634
01:29:58,739 --> 01:30:02,339
know, essentially There's no
money. I mean, they're just

1635
01:30:02,369 --> 01:30:06,389
essentially dry running this
thing up, like, like crazy. So

1636
01:30:06,690 --> 01:30:10,110
what I understand is that it's
gotten so out of control, that

1637
01:30:10,110 --> 01:30:13,650
there's actually tankers off the
coast of have multiple

1638
01:30:13,650 --> 01:30:17,400
countries, including the US
filled with oil just waiting to

1639
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:21,450
unload. You know, the minute the
minute they're at the, at the

1640
01:30:21,450 --> 01:30:24,060
peak of the game, you know, so,
at certain point, everyone's

1641
01:30:24,060 --> 01:30:27,300
going to flip around and start
selling, right? Yeah, they have

1642
01:30:27,300 --> 01:30:31,140
to. So there's apparently
there's even a shortage of

1643
01:30:31,140 --> 01:30:33,630
tanker space right now, because
these tankers are just at

1644
01:30:33,630 --> 01:30:36,960
anchor, waiting to rush into a
port to offload.

1645
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,560
Well, you know, this is the
problem. And everybody knows

1646
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,110
that there's some, you know, 80
billion barrels a day, some huge

1647
01:30:43,110 --> 01:30:45,510
number of oil that's actually
coming out of the ground and has

1648
01:30:45,510 --> 01:30:48,090
to go someplace, and it has to
go through the system and the

1649
01:30:48,090 --> 01:30:51,870
American has, in particular, I
think we've dropped off 4% 5% of

1650
01:30:51,930 --> 01:30:53,760
them, it just doesn't sound like
much, but it's

1651
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,220
just like, you know, like
300,000 barrels a day or

1652
01:30:56,220 --> 01:30:56,640
something.

1653
01:30:56,670 --> 01:30:59,280
It's millions of barrels of the
overall dead, you know, we're

1654
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,490
not soaking up anymore, because
we just people are, you know, I

1655
01:31:02,490 --> 01:31:05,520
noticed this when I commute to
San Francisco. It's like, wow,

1656
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,100
this is the way it ought to be.
There's there's not as crowded

1657
01:31:08,100 --> 01:31:08,340
on

1658
01:31:08,340 --> 01:31:11,970
so yeah, no one's working.
There's no jobs. Everyone's not

1659
01:31:11,970 --> 01:31:12,420
driving.

1660
01:31:13,470 --> 01:31:18,900
Buses, America. Fuck yeah. Here
to save the motherfucking day.

1661
01:31:18,900 --> 01:31:19,380
Yeah.

1662
01:31:19,770 --> 01:31:24,660
Okay, so people, by the way,
complain when you sing as they

1663
01:31:24,660 --> 01:31:29,040
should. So you've never heard me
sing, then they really complain.

1664
01:31:29,310 --> 01:31:33,300
So So yeah, there's a problem.
And so they I'm sure that all

1665
01:31:33,300 --> 01:31:36,240
these tanks had all the refiners
and everything must be filled to

1666
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,570
the brim. And you know, we can't
this can't go on much longer

1667
01:31:39,570 --> 01:31:42,330
because at some point you have
oil starts just being dumped on

1668
01:31:42,330 --> 01:31:45,510
the on the dirt in our something
because you can't you know, it's

1669
01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:48,330
it's a it's a continuous
process. It's not like these

1670
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,240
contracts, you're buying
commodities, you know, yeah,

1671
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,820
it's, it's on paper, but at a
certain point, it's like,

1672
01:31:53,850 --> 01:31:58,500
alright, pay me and deliver.
Right, that's how it goes right.

1673
01:31:58,619 --> 01:32:01,919
Now this latest run up the I
when I was at the thing with the

1674
01:32:01,919 --> 01:32:05,819
market watch guys, we had one
guy who was the CEO of minion

1675
01:32:05,819 --> 01:32:10,229
Ville, and he was who was also a
columnist for us, Todd, and he

1676
01:32:10,229 --> 01:32:14,279
was it was a really typical
stock trader, he was on the

1677
01:32:14,279 --> 01:32:18,629
machine. And he was short on
some energy futures and some but

1678
01:32:18,629 --> 01:32:21,599
he had to monitor it by the
second so he's basically what

1679
01:32:21,599 --> 01:32:24,929
everyone else is talking about
things he was like, he would say

1680
01:32:24,929 --> 01:32:27,719
something in check to check the
chart and say something because

1681
01:32:27,719 --> 01:32:29,519
he was had to be a minute by
minute thing because he knew it

1682
01:32:29,519 --> 01:32:33,389
was a little risky. His position
because oil had was dipping that

1683
01:32:33,389 --> 01:32:38,819
day. And But anyway, he was you
know, he was on top of this and

1684
01:32:39,059 --> 01:32:42,899
it felt that there was some some
something screwy going on. And

1685
01:32:42,929 --> 01:32:45,599
he didn't have the opportunity
to watch this hearing. And I

1686
01:32:45,599 --> 01:32:48,779
don't think a lot of people did,
but it was fascinating. But the

1687
01:32:48,779 --> 01:32:51,539
thing that I was thinking when
the thing took this big jump

1688
01:32:53,309 --> 01:32:56,039
way, the biggest jump in
history, like the other day

1689
01:32:56,039 --> 01:32:59,909
yesterday, I'm thinking and of
course it's sunk the market 400

1690
01:32:59,909 --> 01:33:03,929
points. I'm thinking that maybe
this is the death knell because

1691
01:33:03,929 --> 01:33:07,049
at some point, you know, let's
just do everything we can to get

1692
01:33:07,049 --> 01:33:10,409
it up to as high as we can as
far as we can and then get out I

1693
01:33:10,409 --> 01:33:13,799
think that the I think may that
might have been it possibly I

1694
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:17,970
had exactly the same response
only I'm going to take it one

1695
01:33:17,970 --> 01:33:22,380
step further. I think it was a
test and they popped it and

1696
01:33:22,380 --> 01:33:24,930
they're like oh shit and you
know because everyone's spec so

1697
01:33:24,930 --> 01:33:28,380
$150 is the next psychological
barrier that will freak

1698
01:33:28,380 --> 01:33:32,220
everybody out. I think they
they're gonna try for 200

1699
01:33:32,370 --> 01:33:36,030
because they there's no downside
the credit the credit crisis

1700
01:33:36,030 --> 01:33:39,600
just show show that so what
Yeah, so what if if it blows up

1701
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,610
and Yeah, they'll get bailed out
or somewhere happened or

1702
01:33:41,610 --> 01:33:45,870
whatever? I think they're gonna
go for 200 And that's the pop

1703
01:33:45,900 --> 01:33:48,750
then all sudden this oil comes
rushing in from your end up

1704
01:33:48,750 --> 01:33:49,140
ports

1705
01:33:49,170 --> 01:33:52,530
all over the place. romps the
country we get back to $2 a

1706
01:33:52,530 --> 01:33:53,310
gallon Oh man,

1707
01:33:53,310 --> 01:34:00,330
it's gonna drop like an MF the
dollar is gonna go sky high and

1708
01:34:00,450 --> 01:34:03,510
John you know I like what you
said I think it's actually makes

1709
01:34:03,510 --> 01:34:06,780
more sense because the downside
there dude yeah, no, no,

1710
01:34:06,780 --> 01:34:07,410
no, you're right. I

1711
01:34:07,410 --> 01:34:10,200
was thinking small you're right
you got the right I think you're

1712
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:10,650
right it's

1713
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,410
that's the difference John
between you and me? You think

1714
01:34:13,410 --> 01:34:14,610
small my friend.

1715
01:34:16,830 --> 01:34:19,710
Yeah, you might be right. They
might just be saying okay, screw

1716
01:34:19,710 --> 01:34:23,670
it. We're just gonna take it to
the wall. blows up.

1717
01:34:23,970 --> 01:34:27,420
Let's let's end it on that note.
We're over an hour and a half.

1718
01:34:28,530 --> 01:34:29,940
That's what people complain
about.

1719
01:34:31,410 --> 01:34:33,390
Actually, they don't I know they
love it.

1720
01:34:35,220 --> 01:34:39,900
Ah, yes. Well, we'll see what
happens. So what are the things

1721
01:34:39,900 --> 01:34:43,470
we need to look out for you have
a lot to blog today John? Way

1722
01:34:43,470 --> 01:34:47,970
too much. Yeah, but so it's not
over with Clinton yet. I we I

1723
01:34:47,970 --> 01:34:50,580
think we both agree on that.
It's not over yet. Who knows

1724
01:34:50,580 --> 01:34:54,000
what they'll come up with. But
it's not over with oil and it's

1725
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,910
definitely not over with oil.
They're gonna go for 200 It'll

1726
01:34:56,910 --> 01:34:58,560
be interesting to see if they
make it because you know the

1727
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:02,010
future the some of the contracts
are already written so they

1728
01:35:02,010 --> 01:35:08,010
would make sense. And crap. I
know you around this week.

1729
01:35:09,389 --> 01:35:11,879
I have to go to Michigan for a
couple days. We'll be back on

1730
01:35:11,879 --> 01:35:15,269
Wednesday. Okay, giving us a
talk about, you know, the future

1731
01:35:15,269 --> 01:35:17,069
of newspapers to a publishing
group up there.

1732
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:19,740
And that's your That's your new
speech. Right. That's your new

1733
01:35:19,740 --> 01:35:20,130
thing.

1734
01:35:20,609 --> 01:35:21,539
Yeah, that's one of them.

1735
01:35:22,319 --> 01:35:24,389
You're gonna send me that. I
want to see I want to see your

1736
01:35:24,389 --> 01:35:24,629
speech.

1737
01:35:25,079 --> 01:35:26,279
I'm finishing it today.

1738
01:35:27,209 --> 01:35:29,819
I thought you I thought you had
already done this just recently.

1739
01:35:30,059 --> 01:35:33,239
I have but I got this. Now. I
have a slideshow to go with it.

1740
01:35:33,239 --> 01:35:35,759
That's, that's a little more
advanced. Wow.

1741
01:35:36,539 --> 01:35:38,849
When one's in the neighbourhood,
would you get me an invite? I'd

1742
01:35:38,849 --> 01:35:42,779
love to see one of your shows.
One of your gigs. Yeah,

1743
01:35:42,779 --> 01:35:45,749
absolutely. Do you sell merch?
If like T shirts.

1744
01:35:46,199 --> 01:35:48,479
Now, you know, people say well,
you should be selling books at

1745
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:51,659
these things. And stuff to
schlep. You know, I'm like a

1746
01:35:51,659 --> 01:35:54,329
light traveller. Yeah.

1747
01:35:55,380 --> 01:35:56,610
As a joke in that too.

1748
01:35:57,540 --> 01:35:57,990
Hey,

1749
01:35:58,980 --> 01:36:03,810
All right, everybody. This is
it. we're winding down the show

1750
01:36:03,810 --> 01:36:06,990
once again from Guilford in the
United Kingdom. I'm Adam curry.

1751
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,500
And out here in Northern
California, a nice sunny day, by

1752
01:36:10,500 --> 01:36:12,240
the way. I'm John C. Dvorak.

1753
01:36:12,270 --> 01:36:14,460
We'll talk to you again next
week on no agenda.