1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,630 I'm gonna go bite face. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. 2 00:00:03,870 --> 00:00:07,500 It's Thursday, May 31 2012. Time to get my nation media 3 00:00:07,530 --> 00:00:10,020 assassination episode 413. 4 00:00:10,260 --> 00:00:12,210 This is no agenda, 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,340 enjoying my luscious bath salts here at Camp MoPhO in the 6 00:00:17,340 --> 00:00:20,940 capital of the drone stars fake Boston chaos in the morning, 7 00:00:20,940 --> 00:00:22,680 everybody. I'm Adam curry 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,160 and from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's garbage day. 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,160 Oh, wait, I said that last week. Oh, and the week before I'm John 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,830 C. Dvorak. Kill 11 00:00:33,510 --> 00:00:36,900 your your ingenuity and creativity never ceases to amaze 12 00:00:36,900 --> 00:00:37,800 me. Yeah, I know. I'm 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,220 really good. News, 14 00:00:41,430 --> 00:00:44,670 top news, zombies, bath salts, 15 00:00:45,210 --> 00:00:49,620 zombies, zombies, bath salts, and the more important birther 16 00:00:49,620 --> 00:00:53,040 item, which I want. I actually want to talk about this later 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,790 because I think we should go into it in depth about what Mark 18 00:00:56,790 --> 00:01:04,080 Zuckerberg stiffing the staffers lunch in Italy. Really a big 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,590 scandal in Italy? Apparently women. So he didn't go to this. 20 00:01:07,620 --> 00:01:11,040 What you're saying is he went to lunch? Yeah, with his wife. And 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,650 then he didn't tip. Which if you 22 00:01:16,650 --> 00:01:18,870 want if you want to talk about it, because of course, you know, 23 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:19,200 I made 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,900 you but I want to do a little later. But I want to talk about 25 00:01:21,900 --> 00:01:27,450 it by I have downloaded all the different tipping sites about 26 00:01:27,450 --> 00:01:29,940 what you're supposed to do. And I think it needs a little 27 00:01:29,940 --> 00:01:32,430 discussion. Because I think a lot of people I know when I'm 28 00:01:32,430 --> 00:01:34,560 floating around, I always have to look it up. Because every 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,420 country has got their own things to do 30 00:01:36,450 --> 00:01:40,650 I have one standard. One standard. It's five bucks. 31 00:01:42,420 --> 00:01:48,210 That's right. At the four seasons. Now it's 15%. Unless I 32 00:01:48,210 --> 00:01:53,310 really liked it, then it's 20%. That's what I always do. Yeah, 33 00:01:53,340 --> 00:01:56,220 standard, and wherever I am anywhere in the world. 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,590 Yeah. And there's some places where that would be an insult 35 00:01:58,590 --> 00:02:01,680 and that's fine. You don't care. Would that be an insult? It's 36 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,070 then this in the insult of the countries, the insulted 37 00:02:05,070 --> 00:02:05,910 countries? Where 38 00:02:05,910 --> 00:02:07,260 would that be an insult? 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,980 There are places where we talk about it later. Oh, the tipping 40 00:02:10,980 --> 00:02:11,640 facts here. 41 00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:14,310 Then what are we talking about? Now? We're not talking about 42 00:02:14,310 --> 00:02:16,350 tipping? We're not talking about Zack, what do you want to talk 43 00:02:16,350 --> 00:02:16,920 about now? 44 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:19,740 Okay, we're talking about tipping. Now I'm 45 00:02:19,740 --> 00:02:21,870 not that interested. 15% 46 00:02:23,850 --> 00:02:26,580 Let me just read this though. Just to give Zuckerberg a break. 47 00:02:27,570 --> 00:02:33,720 According to Rick Steves who you see it commonly on the PBS 48 00:02:34,050 --> 00:02:38,730 nations whatever it is they selling books. In Italy if you 49 00:02:38,730 --> 00:02:41,190 tip if you really like to place the food and the service to if 50 00:02:41,190 --> 00:02:43,380 the waiter is very friendly. For example, in the US the waiter 51 00:02:43,380 --> 00:02:46,410 has a small salary, but just because you have to do a lot of 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,410 get a lot of tips tipping is necessary in Italy. No, 53 00:02:49,739 --> 00:02:50,639 you don't tip. 54 00:02:52,530 --> 00:02:55,950 You know salary is good. And the tip is something exceptional. 55 00:02:57,330 --> 00:03:03,210 All right. You know that guy's a big multi billionaire. Yeah, I 56 00:03:03,210 --> 00:03:03,540 am. 57 00:03:03,570 --> 00:03:09,300 I am banning stories about Zuckerberg on this program. I 58 00:03:09,300 --> 00:03:10,740 am. I'm just banning it. 59 00:03:11,460 --> 00:03:15,900 It's done. I'll just call coward just referred to him as Zuck. 60 00:03:17,580 --> 00:03:25,020 I don't think so. Well, a couple of interesting things this week 61 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:30,780 that I've been tracking, I would have to say the most astounding 62 00:03:30,810 --> 00:03:36,660 news article I read was the one and only New York Times the of 63 00:03:36,660 --> 00:03:41,670 course, obviously compromised but you know, the, the the paper 64 00:03:41,670 --> 00:03:47,820 of record with I thought was quite a detailed explanation or 65 00:03:47,820 --> 00:03:55,860 or overview of President Obama's love for drones, and his secret 66 00:03:55,860 --> 00:04:01,530 kill list. And the baseball cards and his involvement, even 67 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,450 with deciding on the fate of a 17 year old girl, uh, whether 68 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,240 she should be drowned or not. And for the New York Times to 69 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,330 publish this, I thought was exceptional. 70 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,120 When really that's interesting. You'd say that. Well, when did 71 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,000 we first discuss this issue? Well, we've 72 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,470 been discussing it for years. 73 00:04:20,459 --> 00:04:24,869 So now you're pleased, because years later the New York Times 74 00:04:24,869 --> 00:04:27,329 I'm telling you what, what's interesting about this article 75 00:04:27,779 --> 00:04:31,589 is the is what the how the left has reacted to it. Well, of 76 00:04:31,590 --> 00:04:35,460 course, this is obviously I have a little clip from CNN if you 77 00:04:35,460 --> 00:04:36,090 want to hear 78 00:04:36,570 --> 00:04:39,450 you give me that and now throw my clip at you now. Okay, so 79 00:04:39,450 --> 00:04:42,690 this is Wolf Blitzer. And you know, we're in the summer months 80 00:04:42,690 --> 00:04:46,290 so everyone is we have all the fillings, which is pretty funny 81 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,090 because they all suck. But this is Wolf Blitzer situation room 82 00:04:51,090 --> 00:04:54,270 and he talks to some nondescript correspondent over there at the 83 00:04:54,270 --> 00:04:57,180 Pentagon in their rugged green screen studio. 84 00:04:57,210 --> 00:05:00,180 What you see is from a New York Times article that's We've 85 00:05:00,180 --> 00:05:04,440 really laid all this out in the greatest detail yet, is that the 86 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,400 President is involved almost at a tactical level. And the 87 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,930 changing technology has allowed this President to make decisions 88 00:05:12,930 --> 00:05:17,670 that no previous president would be able to do. So what you have 89 00:05:17,700 --> 00:05:22,290 is a wide variety of counterterrorism officials, 90 00:05:22,290 --> 00:05:26,010 national security officials, weighing in looking at the 91 00:05:26,010 --> 00:05:30,090 biographies of suspected terrorists to decide who's going 92 00:05:30,090 --> 00:05:34,440 to be next on the kill list. And then finally, the President 93 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,720 himself can weigh in and make an exact decision, because of 94 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,630 technology because of these drone strikes. It's the 95 00:05:42,630 --> 00:05:45,480 President himself who can make these sort of tactical 96 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,500 decisions. I spoke with an analyst Peter Singer who said, 97 00:05:49,650 --> 00:05:52,890 there are actually two kill lists, one being run by the 98 00:05:52,890 --> 00:05:57,300 military, one by the CIA. And the danger in that is that you 99 00:05:57,300 --> 00:06:00,720 can manipulate the list. In other words, if you have a 100 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,590 target that maybe doesn't meet the criteria from the military 101 00:06:04,590 --> 00:06:09,390 list, you can sort of put that name on the CIA list. And what 102 00:06:09,390 --> 00:06:13,260 that could do in some cases, where you have this overlap, is 103 00:06:13,260 --> 00:06:17,190 it opens up the process to perhaps manipulation, because 104 00:06:17,190 --> 00:06:19,980 you've got some of the same people involved in these 105 00:06:19,980 --> 00:06:20,910 meetings. Wolf, 106 00:06:20,940 --> 00:06:24,870 how does that make any sense? What? How does it make any sense 107 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:29,520 what he just said? You got the military says kill XYZ, the CIA 108 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,030 says killed XYZ. And because the guys on both lists that that 109 00:06:33,060 --> 00:06:36,510 opens up manipulation? Well, like to me the guys on the A 110 00:06:36,510 --> 00:06:38,730 list? Well, what? What's he talking about? 111 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,360 He's in front of the velvet rope. Oh, the I think what he's 112 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,140 saying is, if, if it doesn't, if a name doesn't fit according to 113 00:06:46,140 --> 00:06:49,800 the military's condition to be on the kill list, then you can 114 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,230 always go over and talk to the CIA. So it's not really 115 00:06:52,230 --> 00:06:55,890 manipulation. It's just, you know, the list. So just when 116 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,360 you're on the list, no matter what, 117 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,060 with different agendas, agendas, these lists, 118 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,030 and at least for now, correct me if I'm wrong, the legal 119 00:07:03,030 --> 00:07:05,970 opinions, this is nice. The White House legal opinion of the 120 00:07:05,970 --> 00:07:09,000 Justice Department, legal opinion of DOD legal opinion 121 00:07:09,030 --> 00:07:13,050 authorizing these targeted killings with drones and other 122 00:07:13,050 --> 00:07:16,920 means, if necessary, those legal opinions remains classified 123 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:17,640 secret, right. 124 00:07:17,669 --> 00:07:21,179 So that's an interesting question. They remain secret 125 00:07:21,179 --> 00:07:24,149 listen to the guy's response. He he answers the question and then 126 00:07:24,149 --> 00:07:25,919 go straight into something else, because of course, he doesn't 127 00:07:25,919 --> 00:07:27,599 actually know how to talk about it. 128 00:07:28,020 --> 00:07:31,110 Those remain classified and neither the White House nor the 129 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:35,160 Pentagon has really given a full accounting of how they measure 130 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,720 civilian casualties. They 131 00:07:36,810 --> 00:07:38,970 don't it goes into something else. Now, before you get to 132 00:07:38,970 --> 00:07:39,420 your 133 00:07:39,900 --> 00:07:42,900 cheese. How did you talk about changing this subject? Yeah. 134 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:48,420 What I found interesting in context with this is Ultimen 135 00:07:48,420 --> 00:07:52,050 published another White House insider report. 136 00:07:52,650 --> 00:07:56,130 Oh, okay. Yeah, I didn't get there. Yeah. And 137 00:07:57,150 --> 00:08:00,480 his focus in this report, which may or may not be coincidental 138 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,840 that The New York Times reported this. I'll just read some of 139 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,860 that verbatim. Barack Obama takes personal pleasure in using 140 00:08:07,860 --> 00:08:11,490 those drones. Now, why is that? This is the insider speaking. 141 00:08:11,910 --> 00:08:15,300 Because that kind of obsession that ain't normal. He's a lazy 142 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:18,720 slob of a president. But that damn drone program has his full 143 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,560 attention. He loves the shit out of those goddamn drones. He 144 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,710 spends hours watching television or flying around giving another 145 00:08:25,710 --> 00:08:29,340 speech, but he don't miss one of those kill meetings. So ask 146 00:08:29,340 --> 00:08:32,610 yourself why. And I'll tell you that once you figure it out, 147 00:08:32,610 --> 00:08:35,610 then you see the big picture. You see what's going on here, 148 00:08:35,610 --> 00:08:39,450 you see the payoff. You see how odd things he said in the past, 149 00:08:39,570 --> 00:08:42,780 and how they make a hell of a lot more sense. Now, you see 150 00:08:42,810 --> 00:08:46,140 what a second Obama term really means for us. You see why the 151 00:08:46,140 --> 00:08:49,590 military is getting more and more nervous about this guy. You 152 00:08:49,590 --> 00:08:52,170 see why it's got somebody like the old man, that's the Wall 153 00:08:52,170 --> 00:08:56,490 Street insider, so upset and so damn afraid. Obama loves them 154 00:08:56,490 --> 00:09:00,330 drones, he's made it a personal priority above all else. Why? 155 00:09:00,780 --> 00:09:04,170 Well, I got the goods. I told you what their reelection plan 156 00:09:04,170 --> 00:09:07,350 is how they're going to use race division chaos. That's the 157 00:09:07,350 --> 00:09:11,850 reelection plan and the drones fit into this scheme. 158 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,710 And he says how 159 00:09:16,770 --> 00:09:20,760 well that's gonna be in the next in the follow up report. To us, 160 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:26,400 it's a tease. But do you what do you think about that? And I'm 161 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,990 taking this White House inside. First 162 00:09:28,020 --> 00:09:31,050 of all, I think the guy's got these definitely has some good 163 00:09:31,050 --> 00:09:36,660 context in the, in the vicinity. But when you see these people do 164 00:09:36,660 --> 00:09:38,970 these sorts of teases, that means they really haven't got 165 00:09:39,570 --> 00:09:43,800 any evidence. They're just working. Okay, maybe, maybe. I 166 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,420 mean, come on, you know, it's just like, you know, what we've 167 00:09:45,420 --> 00:09:51,270 watched is the six o'clock news. I mean, I don't like it. Well, 168 00:09:51,270 --> 00:09:54,600 there's a couple of things that happened one, Rumsfeld came out 169 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,870 and can do it for doing this, which I thought was weird. Oh, I 170 00:09:57,870 --> 00:10:01,620 didn't I didn't miss that. Yeah, Rumsfeld came out and said this 171 00:10:01,620 --> 00:10:04,980 is not a president's job to micromanage this sort of thing. 172 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:08,430 I also believe that this is putting him in a position of 173 00:10:08,430 --> 00:10:12,840 being coming a war criminal. Well, do you think if it isn't 174 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,200 if he hasn't already, so he so I'm watching democracy now and 175 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,140 they don't know what to do with these these left wing 176 00:10:19,140 --> 00:10:21,360 guy they must have been freaking out about this. They didn't know 177 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,680 what was going on God their 178 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:25,410 their hand wringing how we got my can I vote for Matt, the 179 00:10:25,410 --> 00:10:28,230 Viking don't want Romney and you know, I won't vote for a third 180 00:10:28,230 --> 00:10:33,570 party because I don't know why. And so Glenn Greenwald, who's a 181 00:10:33,570 --> 00:10:37,740 really outstanding writer, a progressive, he's a very extreme 182 00:10:37,740 --> 00:10:42,690 he's very left. He writes for salon and he's well regarded 183 00:10:42,690 --> 00:10:45,690 I've I've always enjoyed reading him, I think he puts his stuff 184 00:10:45,690 --> 00:10:47,910 together quite nicely. But he's a leftist is what you're saying. 185 00:10:47,940 --> 00:10:52,650 He's a big time left big time. But but a good one. He came out 186 00:10:52,650 --> 00:10:57,360 and I think he kind of, he kind of brought to the fore on the 187 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,640 Democracy Now. Now he's on a Skype connection. So it breaks 188 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,820 up a little bit. But he brought it, I think he really hit the 189 00:11:02,820 --> 00:11:07,290 nail on the head with the concerns of the left. And I want 190 00:11:07,290 --> 00:11:10,920 to play this clip. It's a little long, but it's worth listening 191 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,310 to, from his perspective. And I want to just do a little 192 00:11:14,310 --> 00:11:17,220 deconstruction at the end to explain something that I think I 193 00:11:17,220 --> 00:11:17,970 caught in here. 194 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,280 This is why I wrote yesterday. You know, I think one of the 195 00:11:20,310 --> 00:11:23,220 things that the New York Times article did was shed light on 196 00:11:23,250 --> 00:11:26,610 President Obama's character, you know, we can talk a lot about 197 00:11:26,610 --> 00:11:29,190 his policies, and that usually is what's most important, and 198 00:11:29,190 --> 00:11:32,370 we've known that he's been embracing these radical theories 199 00:11:32,370 --> 00:11:35,640 of executive power that even George Bush's former CIA and NSA 200 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,210 Chief General Michael Hayden has lavishly praised and other Bush 201 00:11:39,210 --> 00:11:42,810 officials are over the moon about in terms of President 202 00:11:42,810 --> 00:11:45,420 Obama endorsing him. So we know his policies have been extremist 203 00:11:45,420 --> 00:11:48,840 and radical. But here you have one of the most controversial 204 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,330 things, as I said earlier that a president can do ordering an 205 00:11:51,330 --> 00:11:55,890 American citizen, assassinated by the CIA, in total secrecy, 206 00:11:56,130 --> 00:11:59,340 with no due process never been charged with any crime, even 207 00:11:59,340 --> 00:12:01,470 though they could have charged him if they really had evidence 208 00:12:01,470 --> 00:12:05,160 as they claim that he was guilty of appalling terrorist attacks. 209 00:12:05,430 --> 00:12:08,790 And instead of charging him they simply secretly ordered his 210 00:12:08,790 --> 00:12:12,420 assassination. And it turns out that there was no struggling in 211 00:12:12,420 --> 00:12:15,900 terms of the difficult constitutional and ethical and 212 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:18,570 legal issues. This obviously presents according to the 213 00:12:18,570 --> 00:12:21,720 President's own age, they're boasting to the New York Times 214 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,710 that he declared that this was a quote, easy decision, not 215 00:12:25,710 --> 00:12:29,250 anything that he struggled with something that he made quite 216 00:12:29,250 --> 00:12:32,220 easily. And so we find out that not only is he exercising this 217 00:12:32,220 --> 00:12:35,460 radical power, he's not even having any struggles with 218 00:12:35,460 --> 00:12:38,820 conscience or constitutional questions or legal or 219 00:12:38,820 --> 00:12:42,870 intellectual quandaries about it. It's something that as as 220 00:12:43,530 --> 00:12:46,440 his National Security Adviser Tom Donilon, also bragged to the 221 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,640 York Times about it shows how quote comfortable he is using 222 00:12:50,670 --> 00:12:53,700 force even against American citizens and that I think 223 00:12:53,700 --> 00:12:57,870 reflects really on on the type of person that occupies the Oval 224 00:12:57,870 --> 00:12:58,380 Office. 225 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,390 Okay, let's see your deconstruction. 226 00:13:00,569 --> 00:13:02,609 So is that much of a deconstruction because it's 227 00:13:02,609 --> 00:13:05,939 pretty obvious what the problem is with the left. They don't 228 00:13:05,939 --> 00:13:11,309 care about all this killing and droning. They care about the 229 00:13:11,309 --> 00:13:15,419 fact that that Obama is not anguishing over this. Yeah. 230 00:13:16,049 --> 00:13:19,949 Yeah. Oh, my God, dude, can we do this? And he sits and he 231 00:13:19,949 --> 00:13:22,829 worries and he reflects and he reads a couple of books and a 232 00:13:22,829 --> 00:13:26,609 priest comes in and a rabbi comes in and he and rings. 233 00:13:27,059 --> 00:13:30,089 That's what they want. Well, that's, it would be okay. 234 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,790 Yeah. Well, that's the theater the George Bush would put on. He 235 00:13:32,790 --> 00:13:33,840 was pretty good at that. 236 00:13:33,930 --> 00:13:37,650 Yeah. Yeah. No, he was good. He was a good good to actor. Yeah. 237 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:42,210 But what gets these people is that Obama is so easy and 238 00:13:42,210 --> 00:13:46,260 Cavalier, because he's cool. In every respect. Yeah. Yeah. I 239 00:13:46,260 --> 00:13:49,140 think it's graduate bomb has killed this guy, his 17 year old 240 00:13:49,140 --> 00:13:52,560 screw or she's dad. Let's go bond. And then they of course, 241 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:54,570 in the New York Times article, it didn't mention this one 242 00:13:54,570 --> 00:13:58,410 little factoid, which is that apparently, there's no civilian 243 00:13:58,410 --> 00:14:01,830 casualties because they've defined a militant as anyone 244 00:14:01,890 --> 00:14:04,860 goes, we just their age, from 18 245 00:14:04,860 --> 00:14:07,230 to 40. Or if you're doing jumping jacks. 246 00:14:08,580 --> 00:14:11,640 It could be their training. You're doing jumping. 247 00:14:13,020 --> 00:14:16,410 Training drone him drone him now. Well, I just wanted to 248 00:14:16,410 --> 00:14:21,180 remind everyone over a year ago, what was it now two years ago, 249 00:14:21,180 --> 00:14:25,710 here's what the President said, during the White House 250 00:14:25,710 --> 00:14:29,310 Correspondents Dinner. I have two words for you. Predator 251 00:14:29,310 --> 00:14:33,210 drones. You will never see it coming. 252 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,180 You think I'm joking. 253 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,560 Now this was directed at the Jonas Brothers. And it kind of 254 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,330 shows that he's a psychopath. 255 00:14:46,410 --> 00:14:47,910 He's totally a cycle. 256 00:14:48,540 --> 00:14:52,140 And here's the question that keeps popping up in my mind. If 257 00:14:52,140 --> 00:14:54,750 this is such a great way to do it, and you know, it's okay to 258 00:14:54,750 --> 00:14:57,570 have a couple of civilian casualties as long as it's doing 259 00:14:57,570 --> 00:15:01,110 jumping jacks. And you know, we're happy PETA drone people in 260 00:15:01,110 --> 00:15:07,050 Pakistan Why didn't we do that in Abbottabad? Why did we have 261 00:15:07,050 --> 00:15:12,540 this whole elaborate so called SEAL Team Six capture mission? 262 00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:15,750 Why didn't we just do use the drone there? 263 00:15:15,780 --> 00:15:21,960 Brian end of show clip. Editor Klein's got it. No I have I have 264 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,700 this clip too is Valerie Jarrett. Yeah. I'm thinking the 265 00:15:26,700 --> 00:15:29,940 following because Valerie Jarrett, according to Ed Klein, 266 00:15:30,060 --> 00:15:31,620 your friend Valerie, yeah, who I've 267 00:15:31,620 --> 00:15:34,290 been saying, I told you she's the one I told you. She's the 268 00:15:34,290 --> 00:15:36,450 president. And now it's coming out. She's 269 00:15:36,750 --> 00:15:43,110 apparently was dead set against standing in SEAL team. Six. And 270 00:15:43,110 --> 00:15:45,900 the President does a pretty according to claim for the first 271 00:15:45,900 --> 00:15:48,450 time ever, because everybody else said we should do this. 272 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,400 Except of also Biden. He was also against it there. Which he 273 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,280 doesn't talk about too much. But she was dead set against it. And 274 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,970 so he overruled her and they let the military do their thing. I 275 00:15:59,970 --> 00:16:03,210 would suspect that she would be promoting the idea just droning 276 00:16:03,210 --> 00:16:06,300 that place and the hell with it. Right in the middle of 277 00:16:06,660 --> 00:16:09,990 Abbottabad. Right in the middle of town, which is a little 278 00:16:10,020 --> 00:16:13,200 risky. But who cares? I'm going I think she might be the one 279 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,140 behind the gate just encouraging to do more of this droning. 280 00:16:17,130 --> 00:16:21,720 She's well, I can't wait to read this guy's book. What's it 281 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:27,030 called is called like amateur amateur. Amateur. I always kind 282 00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:30,300 of dislike it he was on was Rachel Maddow? I think he was on 283 00:16:30,330 --> 00:16:31,080 whether right? 284 00:16:31,860 --> 00:16:35,340 No, this was actually an interview on Fox with 285 00:16:35,370 --> 00:16:39,840 oh, okay, good. Because Oh, that's interesting. I have only 286 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,000 seen one of my clip is because it's not an end of show clip. 287 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,690 Yes. Just 50 seconds. This is a play. Yes. It's Klein, I think 288 00:16:45,780 --> 00:16:48,060 with the Rachel Maddow, 289 00:16:48,060 --> 00:16:51,930 anything like this in modern presidential history. One person 290 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,920 who's the best friend of the First Lady. And the soulmate of 291 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,220 the president, who was the last person to leave the Oval Office 292 00:16:59,220 --> 00:17:03,060 at for a meeting, goes upstairs to the family quarters, has 293 00:17:03,060 --> 00:17:07,050 dinner with the President goes on vacation with them, has his 294 00:17:07,050 --> 00:17:11,850 ear is de facto President of the United States. 295 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,790 Wow, that is big. Well, let's talk about her resume. Does she 296 00:17:14,790 --> 00:17:16,170 have the resume to have this job? 297 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,670 No, she doesn't. But what she does have is the trust of 298 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,810 Michelle Obama, number one whom she hired in Chicago. And the 299 00:17:24,810 --> 00:17:29,850 President who uses her as his gatekeeper. She keeps away 300 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,830 people who might come in and in some way embarrass the President 301 00:17:36,180 --> 00:17:40,110 tried to get him to do things that he doesn't want to do. She 302 00:17:40,140 --> 00:17:43,740 she uses the radar, right for the President and the First 303 00:17:43,740 --> 00:17:44,130 Lady. 304 00:17:44,610 --> 00:17:47,550 And she of course, is the the true Chicago connection. 305 00:17:47,550 --> 00:17:51,840 Something else that I noticed is that the Obama reelection 306 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,970 campaign headquarters, and we found out about this during the 307 00:17:57,420 --> 00:18:02,640 the NATO Summit. They're located in Chicago, which is not typical 308 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,980 for an incumbent president to have his reelection campaign 309 00:18:07,980 --> 00:18:11,340 headquarters, not inside Washington, DC. 310 00:18:11,820 --> 00:18:15,990 Yeah. Oh, by the way, this the same clip is the same. Okay, 311 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:19,590 that's fine. It's only that he goes on with some other. More 312 00:18:19,590 --> 00:18:21,390 interesting, personally. Yeah. And 313 00:18:21,390 --> 00:18:24,600 I figured you'd have that. So we'll play that as in the show 314 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:24,990 clip. 315 00:18:25,409 --> 00:18:28,169 So what works here? Yeah, no, there's something fishy going 316 00:18:28,169 --> 00:18:32,549 on. He talks about the fiasco that Valerie Jarrett set up to 317 00:18:32,549 --> 00:18:34,919 try to get the Olympics to Chicago. Oh, yeah. 318 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,170 Remember that? Yeah. That was awesome. 319 00:18:39,420 --> 00:18:40,620 It came in last. 320 00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:43,920 Good job. 321 00:18:43,949 --> 00:18:46,319 And how can you come in late if you're Chicago representing 322 00:18:46,319 --> 00:18:49,439 Chicago, and you come in last, dealing with a corrupt 323 00:18:49,439 --> 00:18:55,139 organization like the IOCC. A corrupt city and a corrupt? You 324 00:18:55,139 --> 00:18:56,249 know, you think it would work out? 325 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:01,350 Yeah. No? You did not corrupt enough, apparently. 326 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:07,080 So anyway, this is, but it's this droning thing is very 327 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:07,980 disturbing, lacking 328 00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:13,020 the outrage, that's for sure. I'm lacking the outrage amongst 329 00:19:13,020 --> 00:19:15,630 American citizens, because we know that the President will 330 00:19:15,630 --> 00:19:20,580 drone an American citizen in another country. So how long do 331 00:19:20,580 --> 00:19:24,690 we have to wait? And are these US drone programs just going to 332 00:19:24,690 --> 00:19:29,610 be surveillance? Or will they? I mean, will we? It's possible 333 00:19:29,610 --> 00:19:32,310 that we actually will see someone droned in the United 334 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:32,880 States. 335 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,670 I would predict it. Do you think it'll 336 00:19:35,670 --> 00:19:36,600 happen before the 337 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:42,210 election? No. No way that would cause some problems. But 338 00:19:42,210 --> 00:19:44,430 eventually I think it will happen. I think they've opened 339 00:19:44,430 --> 00:19:46,440 the door for the public apparently. I mean, it's 340 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,340 everything to me is always test marketing. The public reaction. 341 00:19:50,790 --> 00:19:51,480 Well, right now 342 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,280 it's like, whatever. 343 00:19:54,870 --> 00:19:58,170 doesn't care because we're uneducated population that you 344 00:19:58,170 --> 00:20:02,580 know, it's deeply debt for student loans and the rest of it 345 00:20:02,580 --> 00:20:05,700 and nobody cares. They don't pay any attention. I mean, besides 346 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:08,670 our show, well, there's there's a case in point they do on 347 00:20:08,670 --> 00:20:11,190 Democracy Now. But there's a show that nobody led that we 348 00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:12,690 have a probably a bigger audience, but 349 00:20:12,690 --> 00:20:17,040 there's, there's Case in point, the test marketing, they floated 350 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,250 it out there. No one cared. Maybe that's what this all was, 351 00:20:20,250 --> 00:20:23,010 and was like, Yeah, whatever. Well, it doesn't seem to be a 352 00:20:23,010 --> 00:20:26,760 mana, you know, he doesn't seem to be a twisted about it. But 353 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,620 otherwise, you know, that doesn't matter if he's doing it. 354 00:20:28,620 --> 00:20:31,890 So maybe maybe the test is successful. Now we can move to 355 00:20:31,890 --> 00:20:36,000 the next phase. You'll say no, I'll say we'll see some kind of 356 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,550 drone activity. I don't think we'll be shooting Hellfire 357 00:20:38,550 --> 00:20:42,930 missiles. But I think it was way before the election sometime. 358 00:20:43,380 --> 00:20:46,440 Sometime during you know, sometime during the summer 359 00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:47,670 in the book. Yeah, 360 00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:52,560 I would say before the election, we will see drone activity in 361 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,000 the United States where someone either got tased or being 362 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:03,000 bagged, or T bagged, or some. I think we'll see that we have to 363 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,030 go to the next stage. In this. 364 00:21:06,270 --> 00:21:08,580 I don't think you can take a chance but I here's what I'm 365 00:21:08,580 --> 00:21:11,490 putting down in the Red Book. Okay. You're predicting drone 366 00:21:11,490 --> 00:21:14,250 activity in the USA. Were scrabulous hit too. 367 00:21:14,610 --> 00:21:17,520 Aggressive drone activity. Let's let's call it that aggressive 368 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,010 drone activity before the November election 369 00:21:20,159 --> 00:21:24,209 right before November? Yeah, this is not going to happen. 370 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,499 Okay. Well, we shall see. I'm pretty sure on this one. 371 00:21:29,550 --> 00:21:32,010 Well, anyway, in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. 372 00:21:32,610 --> 00:21:34,440 In the morning, do you Adam curry in the morning it all 373 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,560 ships at sea and boots on the ground and subs in the water and 374 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,120 feet in the air and footsie 375 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:42,180 at the post office, apparently. And of course everyone in our 376 00:21:42,180 --> 00:21:45,480 chat room, the human resources all lined up ready to go charged 377 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,600 up depleting your $9.2 million dollar value. Thank you so much. 378 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,680 No agenda stream.com no agenda chat.net. Happy to be with you. 379 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,600 It's the best podcast in the universe. We have the award 380 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:02,220 plaque to prove it. And we do this twice a week Thursdays and 381 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,570 Sundays in the morning. And based on our value for value 382 00:22:06,570 --> 00:22:09,120 model. People have been supporting us for the past 383 00:22:09,150 --> 00:22:13,110 couple of years. And we would like to thank some who check in 384 00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:16,320 as our executive and Associate Executive producers for today's 385 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:16,950 program. 386 00:22:18,030 --> 00:22:19,200 Did the spreadsheet come in? 387 00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:25,080 That would be your cue. Yeah. Well, there it is. While you 388 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:30,180 open it up. I shall thank Joseph Wagner. He's attached. Oh, there 389 00:22:30,180 --> 00:22:33,540 it is. Joseph Wagner, who will be knighted today comes in with 390 00:22:33,540 --> 00:22:38,910 $411.14. Hey, John and Adam, have been donating since 2010 391 00:22:38,910 --> 00:22:42,120 thought it was time to finish off my knighthood. Oddly enough, 392 00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:47,670 the amount left to finish things off was $411.14 a palindrome 393 00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:51,030 thank you for everything you do. I hope this helps you with just 394 00:22:51,030 --> 00:22:53,520 getting by and living the American dream. Please plug my 395 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,770 podcast soundcloud.com/only hearsay. Thank you so much. Joe 396 00:22:58,770 --> 00:23:01,620 Wagner. Joe. Thank you. And we'll put you on the 397 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:08,580 stand. Still. So want to thank God Dimitri. You took the easy 398 00:23:08,580 --> 00:23:18,210 one. Say of fit awesome man. fit us event. Philosophy of the Deus 399 00:23:18,210 --> 00:23:24,150 say of the dasa Yep. There we go. Wow. 333 from Eastern 400 00:23:24,150 --> 00:23:26,880 London. Hi guys. There's my value for value a long time 401 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,370 Boehner from Gitmo nation fighting politicians now living 402 00:23:29,370 --> 00:23:32,340 in Gitmo East like a de douching 403 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,180 you've been de deuced 404 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,990 James Howard from Indianapolis 320 107. I got a solicitation 405 00:23:42,990 --> 00:23:45,960 from my bank begging me to get their new debit credit combo 406 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,920 card and you're so great that we can offer you an APR as low as 407 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:57,450 12.99%. My basic human right to call that told them to take a 408 00:23:57,450 --> 00:24:00,540 flying leap. I wouldn't even use your damn bank if I could make 409 00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:04,020 electronic payments under my mattress. Adam this segment on 410 00:24:04,020 --> 00:24:07,290 human rights is worth a donation on its own. Please before you 411 00:24:07,290 --> 00:24:10,530 give that acupuncturist any money, ask him how needles are 412 00:24:10,530 --> 00:24:13,290 able to detect the presence of mercury in the body. It wasn't 413 00:24:13,290 --> 00:24:15,990 the needles it wasn't the needles. Yeah, it was the stuff 414 00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:18,870 he put on him. It was the other mumbo jumbo I know what it's 415 00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:19,530 called. It's called 416 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:29,070 applied Kinesiology. Yeah. I don't feel any worse. Applied 417 00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:32,580 Kinesiology. Yeah, I got equal amount of people saying it's 418 00:24:32,580 --> 00:24:36,750 bogus as the people saying it really works. So jury is out. 419 00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:40,890 Sure you did. Herbert harms. Yeah, as long as you're still 420 00:24:40,890 --> 00:24:43,260 doing the show. I don't care what they do to you. Herbert 421 00:24:43,260 --> 00:24:48,060 harms Great Bend Kansas $300. Hi, John Anna met to get this in 422 00:24:48,060 --> 00:24:50,670 before the holiday weekend but last year I am the donation 423 00:24:50,670 --> 00:24:53,490 should complete my knighthood. Thanks for the work you put into 424 00:24:53,490 --> 00:24:57,450 making great show. associate producers we've got a couple of 425 00:24:57,450 --> 00:25:02,040 them. Tyler O'Brien and Boca Raton, Fla We're at two 7007 426 00:25:02,190 --> 00:25:08,520 which means yes Sunday Hey, John just smoked a joint. Come on, do 427 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:15,780 the voice. Do their voice. Hey, John. Adam. Just smoked a joint. 428 00:25:16,170 --> 00:25:20,400 Figured I'd make a stone donation, better listeners and 429 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:29,040 show one I've donated before but it's been a while and I felt 430 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,210 myself turning it back into a Boehner. Good you d douche me 431 00:25:33,210 --> 00:25:38,310 and give me a war on chicken Huntsman karma. That'd be great. 432 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,610 Now, as I understand it, that actually hurts your throat to do 433 00:25:44,610 --> 00:25:45,090 this. 434 00:25:45,270 --> 00:25:49,350 No, it depends if I don't hit it just right. Because that's the 435 00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:51,930 same voice kind of I tried to do with the tech hip even though I 436 00:25:51,930 --> 00:25:54,540 had to modulate it a little differently. A little more 437 00:25:54,540 --> 00:25:57,930 gravelly. That always hurt my throat. Here it goes 438 00:26:05,130 --> 00:26:12,630 on shooken up put it out. Yeah. You've got karma. I love it. 439 00:26:13,170 --> 00:26:15,540 You didn't give them a D douching yes for I'm sorry. 440 00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:17,580 You've 441 00:26:17,580 --> 00:26:21,300 been d do so is the right on the button. So complicated. 442 00:26:21,330 --> 00:26:24,630 Everything's complicated. It's like all these combos. 443 00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:31,740 Scott and Dawsonville Georgia 20707 Why do you do this to me 444 00:26:31,740 --> 00:26:35,700 the first hour for 12 is blowing my mind 445 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:47,550 donating drunk again. Second half Vij brig bore no executive 446 00:26:47,550 --> 00:26:54,150 producer for the other show Bush yet. Bullshit would need to get 447 00:26:54,150 --> 00:26:57,630 off their ass. This is the greatest podcast in the 448 00:26:57,630 --> 00:27:01,650 universe. Anyway, here's what I can afford right now. It's 449 00:27:01,650 --> 00:27:04,770 Monday Memorial Day and I finally got visitors out of my 450 00:27:04,770 --> 00:27:10,920 house and I can have fun. Thought the moose. Moose I 451 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,130 really liked this slide whistle do anything it gave me last time 452 00:27:14,130 --> 00:27:18,330 no need for karma right now call out. Ash has for not donating 453 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:20,610 okay. 454 00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:27,420 That's where the assets are so well. John, you are such a 455 00:27:27,420 --> 00:27:28,230 talented man. 456 00:27:29,670 --> 00:27:33,720 Gary Costel Nick and Mission Viejo, California. 201 I don't 457 00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:36,720 have a note from your money here. It might be in the check. 458 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,960 I'll check. Why do the next Christopher wolf Mooresville 459 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,430 Indiana $200.11 In the morning, John and Adam just donations for 460 00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:47,940 my second executive producers bought to put on my IMDb listing 461 00:27:47,940 --> 00:27:50,670 that is to come appear just to send you some sovereigns and 462 00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:54,090 Aussie and kiwi five spot and a check for my podcast license 463 00:27:54,090 --> 00:27:55,050 that I never received. 464 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,950 Oh no. 465 00:27:56,580 --> 00:28:00,690 Put them on the list. Yeah, I have 173 85 to reach my 466 00:28:00,690 --> 00:28:02,850 knighthood so this should put me over the top I'm looking forward 467 00:28:02,850 --> 00:28:07,140 to my ring size 10.5 I would like by the way these vary from 468 00:28:07,140 --> 00:28:10,140 place to place. I would like to de douching karma for my still 469 00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:12,840 struggling music career that I saw a small boost since my last 470 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,140 donation anyway. I'm also giving myself this knighthood for my 471 00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:18,750 birthday, which was May 30. So I could get a birthday shout out 472 00:28:18,750 --> 00:28:21,540 as well keep up the good work and don't snap me like on the 473 00:28:21,540 --> 00:28:23,370 ring like you did on the podcast license. 474 00:28:23,370 --> 00:28:25,800 I'll get you the podcast license do it right after the show. It's 475 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,230 the name you might consider giving up the quest for an 476 00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:32,880 announcer gig and try being a hand for watches is actually 477 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,030 less prep for that job and nobody will say Hey, isn't that 478 00:28:36,030 --> 00:28:37,380 the MTV guy? 479 00:28:38,790 --> 00:28:42,300 And model that's actually not a bad idea. I think I should put a 480 00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:49,560 reel together and put a reel in Audition reel you've been deep 481 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,160 deuced 482 00:28:50,790 --> 00:28:55,740 also not us karma anonymous donation gardens New York of 483 00:28:55,740 --> 00:28:59,460 $200.07 and Rick cable in Modesto California love the 484 00:28:59,460 --> 00:29:03,480 show. $200 Follow John over twit this new show while I'm coding 485 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:10,620 my site find it classifieds.com Oh cool. Well look it up. Thomas 486 00:29:10,620 --> 00:29:15,360 Casey Rotterdam if cheap Indian bastard can donate so can I? 487 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,700 Hell yeah. So I do have one make good here. Let me see if I can 488 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:23,580 find it. Wait, do I have a black knight that has to be added to 489 00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:24,540 the list? Oh, 490 00:29:25,230 --> 00:29:27,480 who was who has not been knighted yet? 491 00:29:28,860 --> 00:29:32,550 I don't believe so. Okay, and I keep sending this note around 492 00:29:32,550 --> 00:29:37,770 and nobody so this is from Sir gear. Well, okay. And I promised 493 00:29:37,770 --> 00:29:41,250 him because he gave $606 a few like a month ago and he wanted 494 00:29:41,250 --> 00:29:43,080 his birthday mentioned they gotta put them on the birthday 495 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,480 list. It did it this problem that guts. There's a long story 496 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,820 why this got screwed up but whatever the case is, I promised 497 00:29:50,820 --> 00:29:54,450 and double karma for one and only time for anyone who says 498 00:29:54,540 --> 00:29:59,100 oh, he's a well established night. So if you can do that, I 499 00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:01,530 have to do double counting. karma. Yes, I'm sorry. I'll 500 00:30:01,530 --> 00:30:03,150 play it twice. Yeah. 501 00:30:05,009 --> 00:30:10,739 This is dumb. Well, we won't do it again. You've got 502 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:11,580 karma 503 00:30:19,140 --> 00:30:21,540 you've got karma. Okay, 504 00:30:21,540 --> 00:30:23,610 I just want you to feel the pain. Yeah. 505 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,450 I noticed you put a big gap in there just to torture everyone 506 00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:33,270 was that this is the Norwegian. In Taiwan. Yeah, he talks about 507 00:30:33,270 --> 00:30:36,300 kept rain until 1905 Blah blah blah the Swedes and the Danes 508 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,630 regardless cousins have no hard feelings he wants to apologize 509 00:30:39,630 --> 00:30:44,010 to them for some reason no EU on us no EU are for us as long as 510 00:30:44,010 --> 00:30:48,150 we keep pumping oil he says it seems pico does not apply to 511 00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:51,870 Norway. And then he says he should qualify for a second 512 00:30:51,870 --> 00:30:55,680 night who likes to donate to his son Dan so he's a black knight. 513 00:30:56,460 --> 00:31:00,570 We did this You sure know but I doesn't I know 514 00:31:00,570 --> 00:31:04,680 we do. Why don't you remember a day he wanted to be night? Sir 515 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,880 daft. Yeah, we did this. But we never gave him the double karma 516 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,650 then no, he would have bitched about it. Yeah, 517 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,130 we gave we definitely knighted him. I remember that sir. Down 518 00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:16,830 and we won't name him again. Okay. I do have another 519 00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:20,820 knighthood which came from Austin local in the form of 520 00:31:20,820 --> 00:31:26,280 gold. Oh, Gordon Walton, and you probably won't remember but 521 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:32,010 Gordon during the hot pockets tour 2008 which was held in 522 00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:38,850 2011. Gordon Walton pick this up when we were at here in Austin 523 00:31:38,850 --> 00:31:42,780 and drove us down to the meet up really nice guy. And he donated 524 00:31:42,990 --> 00:31:47,490 I think it was $600 at the time on the spot on the spot 525 00:31:47,490 --> 00:31:51,150 donation. And he took them as Mickey and I out to lunch last 526 00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:56,400 yesterday at man's smokehouse, which is very famous here in 527 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,340 Austin. It's is located basically between two gas 528 00:31:59,340 --> 00:32:02,640 stations. Now, it's still the old fashioned smokehouse, but 529 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,270 they built all this stuff around it. And we had a great barbecue 530 00:32:06,270 --> 00:32:12,690 lunch. And he donated to the show. Have them here to two 531 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:18,330 sovereigns. So those are each a quarter ounce of gold. So that's 532 00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:24,450 half an ounce there and two liberties which are 10 ounce. So 533 00:32:24,450 --> 00:32:34,650 that is a grand total of 50 to 70.7 ounces of gold. At the 534 00:32:34,650 --> 00:32:41,580 current prices falling, which actually went up this morning at 535 00:32:41,580 --> 00:32:44,790 the current Well, he's also he also said if John bitches about 536 00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:47,820 give me the coins back, I'll give you cash. But I said no, 537 00:32:48,090 --> 00:32:49,170 no, no, I 538 00:32:49,170 --> 00:32:51,780 see the gold. The coins are great. I love the coins. 539 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,950 And so he will be knighted in the gold order today. Gordon 540 00:32:55,950 --> 00:32:59,640 Walton sounds like a gold order. It's the gold order. Well, we've 541 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,920 had another night who was in the gold order, I think and you have 542 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,460 the coins there. So it kind of works out. We you don't have to 543 00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:05,580 only 544 00:33:05,580 --> 00:33:09,750 have one coin. I don't have four. Right. Right. Yeah, right. 545 00:33:10,650 --> 00:33:15,660 I have Nan Neener Neener Neener. I have four coins. You've got 546 00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:18,960 one? Well, maybe we'll see each other this year, 547 00:33:19,230 --> 00:33:21,090 we'll probably not. 548 00:33:22,620 --> 00:33:24,240 Not if I can help it pal. 549 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,240 Dot forward slash and a. Also, by the way, channel DeVore 550 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,450 act.com/and. A no agenda show.com. And no agenda. 551 00:33:33,450 --> 00:33:38,490 nation.com are also places where you can find ways to donate help 552 00:33:38,490 --> 00:33:42,600 us out on the show. Also, you can mail us a check, which is 553 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,660 listed on the no agenda or divert that or stash and they 554 00:33:45,660 --> 00:33:51,090 said there's instructions there and also direct. You can do a 555 00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:54,630 wire transfer. If if it's a large amount, nuff amount, 556 00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:58,350 otherwise, it's overpriced. And you just email me and I give you 557 00:33:58,350 --> 00:33:59,490 the instructions on that. 558 00:33:59,580 --> 00:34:02,490 And We highly appreciate the showing of support today from 559 00:34:02,490 --> 00:34:04,800 our executive producers and Associate Executive producers. 560 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,270 These are actual credits. If you have an IMDB or if even if you 561 00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:12,450 don't, you can start one up. And you can become a credited there 562 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,910 and you can put it on your LinkedIn and unlike the phone, 563 00:34:14,910 --> 00:34:18,660 he's in Hollywood, if anyone questions the validity of your 564 00:34:18,690 --> 00:34:21,300 credit for the program, we will vouch for it, we'll get on the 565 00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:23,850 phone, we'll talk to him, we'll set him straight. And it's 566 00:34:23,850 --> 00:34:26,220 great. It's value for value. That's the only way that we can 567 00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:28,980 keep the program going. And it is highly appreciated. One PR 568 00:34:28,980 --> 00:34:33,780 mentioned John, and I tweeted this out yesterday and it'll be 569 00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:36,210 in the show notes. Of course Sir Andrew Gardner, who I believe is 570 00:34:36,210 --> 00:34:39,360 also celebrating a birthday today. He came in second in the 571 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,560 Memorial Day races. He races I think in the 450 motorcycle 572 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,810 class. And it's great pictures, though he has no agenda show.com 573 00:34:48,810 --> 00:34:51,900 on the bottom of his bike. So when he goes around the corner, 574 00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:55,440 it pops up and white letters. I see no agenda show.com 575 00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:56,550 What's that say? 576 00:34:57,180 --> 00:35:01,440 It's it's very obvious So I tweeted that picture out and I 577 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,930 got all kinds of people who participate in different forms 578 00:35:03,930 --> 00:35:06,780 of racing, you know, like the Mustang class and there's all 579 00:35:06,780 --> 00:35:11,910 kinds of amazing races that go on all over the country. And now 580 00:35:12,210 --> 00:35:16,380 that guy is going to put no agenda show.com on his car and I 581 00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:21,150 think we are basically the first podcast with its own racing team 582 00:35:22,410 --> 00:35:25,320 and not to mention asked forces asked for 583 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,580 it doesn't work by the way as forces.com Let's see it doesn't 584 00:35:29,580 --> 00:35:30,000 work. 585 00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:33,420 Well then. We have to fix that somebody has said it's a fix out 586 00:35:33,420 --> 00:35:33,600 to 587 00:35:34,379 --> 00:35:38,429 go try it try ask forces.com Last time I Oh, it works today. 588 00:35:38,459 --> 00:35:43,019 I'm sorry. It's working now so it got fixed so maybe that would 589 00:35:43,019 --> 00:35:45,989 be I like it no agenda show or maybe someone will set up no 590 00:35:45,989 --> 00:35:49,319 agenda racing.com But I think the most important thing is that 591 00:35:49,319 --> 00:35:55,379 you and I get to pit passes to all of the races and yeah and we 592 00:35:55,379 --> 00:35:57,569 can maybe score some babes 593 00:35:59,670 --> 00:36:02,160 some yes some pit days that's 594 00:36:02,190 --> 00:36:04,530 that's why we do this show ladies and gentlemen. That's 595 00:36:04,530 --> 00:36:07,950 right. Now of course if you don't ride a bike you can always 596 00:36:07,950 --> 00:36:08,970 propagate the formula 597 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,680 our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth 598 00:36:22,530 --> 00:36:25,740 come on can say like you mean it shut up 599 00:36:32,130 --> 00:36:38,130 so since we did have sir gear, chime in. What is the tipping in 600 00:36:38,130 --> 00:36:38,730 Norway? 601 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,810 Or yet you're asking me? Yeah, 602 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,310 I'm try this is a quiz. I think 603 00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:46,410 you give the person a herrings head. 604 00:36:48,450 --> 00:36:51,000 Do you tip hotel maids in Norway? 605 00:36:51,149 --> 00:36:55,379 I tip hotel maids any everywhere I go. I always put change on the 606 00:36:55,379 --> 00:36:59,879 pillow when I vacate the room. Always. Yeah, like whatever 607 00:36:59,879 --> 00:37:03,269 dollars or whatever. I got my probably about five bucks a day. 608 00:37:03,779 --> 00:37:04,409 I don't 609 00:37:04,410 --> 00:37:09,570 usually do that. tchotchkes and Crap. Crap. Especially the T 610 00:37:09,570 --> 00:37:15,480 shirts, a lint. There's a lot of cool stuff that I'll pick up at 611 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,440 a trade show. And then as you're going I'm traveling and then so 612 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,080 lame. Junk. 613 00:37:22,589 --> 00:37:25,709 Depression, John, we're in a depression. You gotta leave 614 00:37:25,709 --> 00:37:30,059 dough hardcore. I love it. And I usually say crap, you know, when 615 00:37:30,059 --> 00:37:32,939 I go to San Francisco, I stay at the Courtyard by Marriott, which 616 00:37:32,939 --> 00:37:34,379 is a really crappy hotel, 617 00:37:34,650 --> 00:37:38,550 does it? Well, I love it because it's just walking distance to 618 00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:39,240 everything. Yeah, it's 619 00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:43,080 walking distance is real simple. And everyone's kind of, you 620 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,110 know, there's no poshness to it, so there's no stuck up a holes 621 00:37:46,110 --> 00:37:50,220 walking around. You know, it's not like the W, which is half 622 00:37:50,220 --> 00:37:54,000 the price of the W. And, and I like it. And then if you leave 623 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,340 five bucks on the pillow in the morning, I'm usually there for a 624 00:37:56,340 --> 00:37:59,670 couple days, then the room, you know that you can really see 625 00:37:59,670 --> 00:38:02,700 that they pay attention to it. And it's really nice, you know, 626 00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:06,390 they put the love into it. And I like that, I think is very 627 00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:09,810 important. You know, they're working for slave wages there. 628 00:38:11,220 --> 00:38:16,770 So, hey, this is something I have a theory here on this on 629 00:38:16,770 --> 00:38:19,290 the clown capade. That is Donald Trump. 630 00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:21,060 I have the clip. 631 00:38:22,260 --> 00:38:24,570 Okay, we'll play your clip. And I'll give you my theory which, 632 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:25,200 which 633 00:38:25,710 --> 00:38:30,120 is the clip by Wolf Blitzer had Trump on and the two and Trump 634 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,750 is just he doesn't even pay any. And then he insults bliss 635 00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:37,050 Blitzer. Yeah. Who calls him an idiot after that? And then he 636 00:38:37,050 --> 00:38:39,390 says, No, you're an idiot. I mean, what is this? This is 637 00:38:39,930 --> 00:38:40,710 ridiculous. I think 638 00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:42,060 I know what it is. Let's let's listen 639 00:38:42,060 --> 00:38:46,860 to this birther issue after the state of Hawaii formally says 640 00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:50,250 this is the legitimate birth certificate. He was born in 641 00:38:50,250 --> 00:38:52,950 Hawaii. Why are you going through all of this? A lot of 642 00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:55,470 people don't agree with that birth certificate. State 643 00:38:55,470 --> 00:38:59,340 of Hawaii authorizes it. If the state of Hawaii says this is 644 00:38:59,340 --> 00:39:03,930 official. He was born in Hawaii on this date. Here it is. Why do 645 00:39:03,930 --> 00:39:05,310 you deny that? A lot 646 00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:10,560 of people do not think it was an authentic certificate. Reported 647 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,010 well, but many people do not think it was authentic. His 648 00:39:14,010 --> 00:39:17,520 mother was not in the hospital. There are many other things that 649 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,850 came out. And frankly, if you would report it accurately, I 650 00:39:20,850 --> 00:39:23,850 think you'd probably get better ratings than you're getting 651 00:39:23,850 --> 00:39:24,960 which are pretty small. 652 00:39:24,990 --> 00:39:29,460 Donald, have you seen the actual newspaper announcements within 653 00:39:29,460 --> 00:39:33,180 days of his birth in Honolulu, for example, let's start bullets 654 00:39:33,180 --> 00:39:36,180 and we'll put it up there. You see the birth announcement back 655 00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:43,380 in 1961? Listen, listen to me, Donald. Can we can I ask her up? 656 00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:47,010 Can I ask the question and Obama, Donald Donald, you're 657 00:39:47,010 --> 00:39:49,410 beginning to sound a little ridiculous. I have to 658 00:39:49,410 --> 00:39:52,710 tell you you are well, let me tell you something. I think you 659 00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:55,200 sound ridiculous. Okay, 660 00:39:55,890 --> 00:39:58,890 so I have I actually took a little different piece from that 661 00:39:58,890 --> 00:40:03,240 but it's okay. I don't need to play it because what what Trump 662 00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:06,960 is saying is you guys, the media, you're playing this up I 663 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,180 just watched, let me play the beginning of it because it is 664 00:40:09,180 --> 00:40:11,970 kind of important for the next one that I have on this for the 665 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,430 for the theorem, listen to beginning here 666 00:40:14,490 --> 00:40:18,480 because what he said was wrong and what he said was talking 667 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:18,660 about 668 00:40:18,660 --> 00:40:24,540 the reporter who is teased Trump coming up about Trump being the 669 00:40:24,540 --> 00:40:25,200 birther guy, 670 00:40:25,590 --> 00:40:29,790 almost as though President Obama read it, but I'm sure he knows 671 00:40:29,790 --> 00:40:33,540 that and I thought it was a very inappropriate introduction. But 672 00:40:33,540 --> 00:40:35,100 go ahead with your first question. 673 00:40:35,580 --> 00:40:39,660 So what Trump is saying is an A he does go on to continue on 674 00:40:39,660 --> 00:40:43,440 this track. Is that the the the president wrote this 675 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:48,960 introduction about Trump being a crazy birther almost, you know, 676 00:40:48,990 --> 00:40:54,600 and this is what CNN is propagating. And we had Johnson 677 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,410 Nunu, you want to give a quick background of Johnson Nunu 678 00:40:58,410 --> 00:41:00,690 because he was a big wheel back in the day, right? 679 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:05,460 He was I think he was in the was he was in the was it the Nixon 680 00:41:05,460 --> 00:41:06,870 administration? Or the 681 00:41:07,110 --> 00:41:11,610 I believe it was? Well, let's think so. I think them all, you 682 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:13,950 know, 683 00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:19,620 was the 75th, governor of New Hampshire of 83 to 89. Later, 684 00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:23,070 White House Chief of Staff under George HW. Oh, there you go. 685 00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:26,250 He's the father of John E. Sununu. Which is another one, we 686 00:41:26,250 --> 00:41:28,560 have to know which one we're talking about. But I think this 687 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,730 is the John ages who were talking about who do you refer 688 00:41:32,730 --> 00:41:36,450 to in the story? Right. So it was George HW, 689 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,760 so he but he was a big wheel? And he is now? Yes. And he is 690 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,770 now the he's a consultant or something for the Republicans, 691 00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:51,300 maybe even directly on the Romney campaign. So Soledad 692 00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:55,170 O'Brien, who you and I both know, I work with you work with 693 00:41:55,170 --> 00:41:58,260 her right with soda. Yeah, she's sweet. She's very sweet. But 694 00:41:58,260 --> 00:42:02,460 she's out of her depth. So of course, we've we've got the 695 00:42:03,060 --> 00:42:05,640 we've got the vacation period with us now. Which means 696 00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:09,420 absolutely no one is watching CNN who was already bad. As 697 00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:11,580 Donald Trump pointed out, they're quite interesting, quite 698 00:42:11,580 --> 00:42:15,690 funny. So she gets to fill in for Anderson Cooper and do all 699 00:42:15,690 --> 00:42:18,180 these things. But she's got the hubris of like, I'm a real 700 00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:21,540 journalist to go with it, which is kind of a mistake. When John 701 00:42:21,540 --> 00:42:25,200 Sununu is a well practiced guy. He know. And 702 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,620 he was also known, in fact, he was called the soup. I have it 703 00:42:28,620 --> 00:42:34,260 here. The Bush is bad cop. 704 00:42:36,090 --> 00:42:39,300 So this guy, this guy knows how to handle reporters. And he 705 00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:43,860 certainly knows how to handle Soledad O'Brien. And smoke is 706 00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:46,620 coming out of her years when this goes down. But it's 707 00:42:46,620 --> 00:42:49,200 important to listen to a it's just funny, because some of that 708 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,370 is like, she's just she's blowing it. And, and it's also 709 00:42:53,370 --> 00:42:56,280 funny, because Sununu is saying the same thing that Trump is 710 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,380 saying, I think that's where we're gonna get into something 711 00:42:58,380 --> 00:42:59,250 interesting. The fact 712 00:42:59,250 --> 00:43:02,220 is, is that this country has a jobs problem. 713 00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:04,950 You see, he's doing the same thing. But why don't why do you 714 00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:07,560 want to talk about the birther thing? This is ridiculous. Let's 715 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,970 talk about jobs in the economy 716 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,170 and supporters of the president like CNN, keep wanting to talk 717 00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:14,490 about other issues. It was 718 00:43:14,490 --> 00:43:16,980 interesting every time you ask anybody a hard question, they 719 00:43:16,980 --> 00:43:19,110 suddenly go to this? Well, you must be supporting 720 00:43:19,710 --> 00:43:23,400 a hard question. This is an easy question. Mitt Romney has made 721 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,670 it clear. He believes the President of the United States 722 00:43:26,850 --> 00:43:30,810 was born in the United States. Now Now we can talk about the 723 00:43:30,810 --> 00:43:36,240 big issues in the Africa a 44 million people to jobs. 24 724 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:37,770 million people underemployed, 725 00:43:37,860 --> 00:43:40,350 which I agree with you on that front, and we're gonna get to 726 00:43:40,350 --> 00:43:41,250 that in one second. 727 00:43:42,330 --> 00:43:47,100 So she's in the deep end without her ringlets on that I agree 728 00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:48,960 with you on that. We'll get to that sounds good. 729 00:43:49,170 --> 00:43:52,890 We'll get to that. I want to ask you. Why does Mitt Romney not go 730 00:43:52,890 --> 00:43:56,400 further? For example, as I'm sure you hear, this is great. 731 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,390 I've seen many times when John McCain was posed a question by a 732 00:44:00,420 --> 00:44:03,870 woman who asked him a question. Not only did he say, Here's my 733 00:44:03,870 --> 00:44:06,420 position, he said to her, let me correct you. So I'm gonna play 734 00:44:06,420 --> 00:44:07,170 that clip for you. 735 00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:11,789 Aren't you embarrassed to be speaking directly from the Obama 736 00:44:12,059 --> 00:44:14,849 speaking points that they distributed yesterday? 737 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:21,270 This expression? Well, here's what I was told to do. I feel 738 00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:26,490 embarrassed to sound exactly like the Obama spokesman talking 739 00:44:26,490 --> 00:44:27,570 about John McCain. 740 00:44:29,070 --> 00:44:32,190 This is a clip that we have played a few times. It's a 741 00:44:32,190 --> 00:44:34,080 conversation that's been Oh, come 742 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,150 on, come on. Let's talk jobs. 743 00:44:36,180 --> 00:44:39,030 Let's talk because you don't want to talk about the fact that 744 00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:39,480 a major 745 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:48,030 issue, it's not an issue. You run the campaign that believes 746 00:44:48,030 --> 00:44:51,120 that the President was not born in the United States. 747 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:56,190 So then how come someone doesn't say Donald Trump is wrong? And 748 00:44:56,190 --> 00:44:56,310 what 749 00:44:57,210 --> 00:45:00,780 is wrong? The President was born in the United States 750 00:45:00,810 --> 00:45:03,930 that might be the first time Well, thank you, 751 00:45:04,590 --> 00:45:08,220 ma'am. No, it isn't. It's just because you don't read enough. 752 00:45:09,810 --> 00:45:10,830 Oh, brother, 753 00:45:11,249 --> 00:45:13,769 he's mopping the floor with porcelain does 754 00:45:13,770 --> 00:45:18,810 bad? Yeah. He's probably right. I think I think there were some 755 00:45:18,810 --> 00:45:20,490 talking points that went out. Oh, yeah. 756 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,190 Well, definitely she was just repeating them. 757 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,550 I don't know that she knows that the talking points were given to 758 00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:29,040 her. He is, you know, the right they you have writers on these 759 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,460 shows, and they put some stuff on the proper you just go with 760 00:45:32,460 --> 00:45:34,560 horse. Here's the producer is the one, 761 00:45:34,590 --> 00:45:39,330 here's what I think is happening. So there is actually 762 00:45:39,630 --> 00:45:44,820 a lot going on a lot of research in Hawaii. And it is it's still, 763 00:45:44,850 --> 00:45:48,000 you know, the crazy Sheriff, our PIO and you call them crazy. 764 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,870 He's still an actual sheriff. And there is new evidence, I 765 00:45:51,870 --> 00:45:54,420 believe that is going to come out. I think that the 766 00:45:54,420 --> 00:45:58,980 administration is aware of it. And they have hired Trump, 767 00:45:59,070 --> 00:46:03,090 because I don't trust Trump for a second. All I know that he's 768 00:46:03,090 --> 00:46:05,040 really I don't know, if he's good at real estate or anything 769 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,740 like that as his name on buildings. You know, he's, as 770 00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:10,500 far as I'm concerned, he's just a frontman for a whole bunch of 771 00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:14,310 other people. I think they have hired him to stir this up so 772 00:46:14,310 --> 00:46:17,940 that they can call everyone a nut job when the new evidence 773 00:46:17,940 --> 00:46:18,660 comes out. 774 00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:24,450 That's a good one. 775 00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:30,630 And the and I've seen some more deconstruction. And I do see CNN 776 00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:34,200 is on this continuously. You know, they talked to someone in 777 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,560 Hawaii, someone who was in the office, they show another guy 778 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,250 getting his birth certificate from the from from the Hawaii 779 00:46:41,250 --> 00:46:43,920 records office, and they say, Oh, it's just like the one Obama 780 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,530 got it's exactly the same. Why don't they believe it? There's 781 00:46:46,530 --> 00:46:51,000 too much. It's, you know, you doth protest too much me think 782 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,930 if is too much going on. And I know that in the conspiracy 783 00:46:54,930 --> 00:47:00,180 birther circles, they there is talk of a new, really great new 784 00:47:00,180 --> 00:47:04,350 evidence. And of course, we we did recently have the 785 00:47:04,350 --> 00:47:07,140 President's own bio from his publisher, come, you know, come 786 00:47:07,140 --> 00:47:11,730 out and saying, you know, born in Kenya, raised in Hawaii. And 787 00:47:11,730 --> 00:47:13,980 of course, that was just a mistake, obviously. I mean, 788 00:47:13,980 --> 00:47:17,550 please, I was oh, no, that was just a mistake. I think, 789 00:47:17,730 --> 00:47:20,430 if you will, I don't know if it was a mistake or not, as some 790 00:47:20,430 --> 00:47:24,270 people know, I'm consider you up or, you know, think of the guy's 791 00:47:24,270 --> 00:47:27,030 a psychopath. I'm being facetious, obviously, with how I 792 00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:29,340 say used it to sell books. 793 00:47:29,370 --> 00:47:37,470 No, I think the cover up is not. There's this the Kenya thing was 794 00:47:37,470 --> 00:47:41,640 brought in to cover up something else. And that, I think, is the 795 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,600 evidence that's going to come out I believe that this hole 796 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,480 born in Kenya, not born in Kenya was covering up something else. 797 00:47:48,510 --> 00:47:50,460 They never expected the guy, they expected the guy to be 798 00:47:50,460 --> 00:47:54,840 important. They who control him, but they never really thought 799 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,030 that he would make it all the way to the White House. And they 800 00:47:57,030 --> 00:48:00,210 blew the cover up of something else. Maybe who was real father 801 00:48:00,210 --> 00:48:02,700 is no, we can't pass or is 802 00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:05,430 that that that has been in the discussion before I think two 803 00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:11,250 years ago. I think I believe that I brought up this this 804 00:48:11,550 --> 00:48:16,020 connection to this guy that his mom was having an affair with? 805 00:48:16,380 --> 00:48:19,050 Who was a very faint dad. I don't have the documentation in 806 00:48:19,050 --> 00:48:21,990 front of me anymore, but I do remember it. Which is our I 807 00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:24,600 remember it. I don't do remember it. Sorry. 808 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,410 I can tell you that I can give you the name keep going. Yeah, 809 00:48:28,410 --> 00:48:29,040 that guy 810 00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:34,230 that he was he's like a left wing. Idea. Log that was there 811 00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:39,300 any looks more like In fact, I recall the there's documentation 812 00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:41,790 on this showing pictures. Here's what Brock looks like. Now, 813 00:48:41,790 --> 00:48:44,670 here's what his dad looks like now the Kenyan dad. And here's 814 00:48:44,670 --> 00:48:47,460 what brought looks like now here's this guy. They look like 815 00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:50,520 they're the same person. This guy looks just like Barack 816 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,790 Obama. And it was a known fact that he was hanging out with his 817 00:48:53,790 --> 00:48:59,910 mom a lot. And that's the belief makes him an American, by the 818 00:48:59,910 --> 00:49:00,180 way. 819 00:49:00,779 --> 00:49:04,079 Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, that's the interesting part. That's the 820 00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:07,199 irony of the whole thing that that is exactly the irony. It 821 00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:09,209 was Frank Marshall Davis. 822 00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:11,940 Yeah, that guy. That's the guy. Yeah, I've discussed this at 823 00:49:11,970 --> 00:49:13,920 least two years ago on this show 824 00:49:13,980 --> 00:49:17,220 that the and I think somehow there's evidence about that and 825 00:49:17,220 --> 00:49:18,900 who is this Frank Marshall Davis guy? 826 00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:21,870 I think it's gonna be DNA stuff coming out. That's probably 827 00:49:21,870 --> 00:49:23,280 what's gonna so that that's the 828 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,860 rumor is that there's DNA that will prove that Frank Marshall 829 00:49:28,860 --> 00:49:32,460 Davis was his father. That is the big the big rumor who was 830 00:49:32,460 --> 00:49:33,660 Frank Marshall Davis. 831 00:49:34,380 --> 00:49:39,360 Well, he was a famous left wing, good communist or borderline 832 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:44,520 communist. Black radical as I recall. What's his name again? 833 00:49:45,060 --> 00:49:51,540 Malcolm X. No, not him. Davis, Frank and Frank Marshall Davis. 834 00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:54,330 Frank. Oh, interesting. Look at the book analogies from 835 00:49:54,360 --> 00:50:02,580 Honolulu. Now you go Wow, yeah, that's him there. Yeah, that 836 00:50:02,580 --> 00:50:05,370 guy. You know, we're so far ahead of the curve on this show. 837 00:50:05,370 --> 00:50:07,200 It's kind of sometimes we forget and 838 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,130 then we have to go back like 839 00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:13,200 remember it's so long ago that we've discussed this stuff. And 840 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,840 now it starts coming out and we're like we've seen flat 841 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,280 footed because it's like, Wait, we're way past this. Yeah. Okay, 842 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:27,600 so here he is a 17. He was a he was a news guy. Freelance 843 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:33,000 articles, short stories. Charizard poetry, including 844 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,800 things like Chicago's Congo Sonata for an orchestra. He was 845 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,870 a news guy. Yeah, progressive news guy and let's see if 846 00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:48,180 there's anything about his radicalization. disrupted 847 00:50:48,180 --> 00:50:51,060 industry and try the attention of authorities workers conducted 848 00:50:51,060 --> 00:50:53,790 large strike this is the democratic FBI he was apparently 849 00:50:54,270 --> 00:51:00,120 tracked by the FBI. Or you also authored a hardcore pornographic 850 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,320 novel, which shouldn't be a good one to get. Ya. The book titled 851 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:10,680 sex rebel black corn winmore Memoirs of a gash gourmet, nice 852 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,510 under the pseudonym Bob Green. Write that down 853 00:51:15,780 --> 00:51:20,850 Memoirs of a gash gourmet. That's his porn book. 854 00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:29,280 lectures that how are you as a poet? Some poet. 855 00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:33,780 I think that the reason why the birth certificate has been 856 00:51:33,780 --> 00:51:40,740 falsified is to cover up the fact that that Barack Obama 857 00:51:40,740 --> 00:51:43,530 senior is not his father. It's Frank Marshall Davis. 858 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,190 And his memoirs Dreams from My Father Barack Obama wrote about 859 00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:52,140 Frank, a friend of his grandfather's Frank told Obama 860 00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:55,830 that he and Stanley Obama's maternal grandmother, or 861 00:51:55,830 --> 00:51:58,680 grandfather had both grown up only 50 miles a partner, which 862 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,440 although they did not meet until Hawaii described the way race 863 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,950 relations were back then including Jim Crow. And his view 864 00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:07,800 that there had been little progress since then, as Obama 865 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,370 remembered it made me smile thinking back on Frank, and his 866 00:52:11,370 --> 00:52:16,230 old black power duszniki self that some ways he was in as 867 00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:19,890 incurable as my mother, as certain in his faith living in 868 00:52:19,890 --> 00:52:23,370 the same 60s Time Warp that Hawaii had created. 869 00:52:23,730 --> 00:52:26,220 Now, if I'm not mistaken, there's a connection between 870 00:52:26,250 --> 00:52:29,340 Obama's mother and Timothy Geithner. 871 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,410 Yeah, there is I remember that. We discussed that about a year 872 00:52:34,410 --> 00:52:38,850 ago with some detail. And that was because she worked for one 873 00:52:38,850 --> 00:52:41,940 of Geithner's operations as an assistant and I think she was 874 00:52:42,540 --> 00:52:46,620 knew him fairly well. Yeah, there was that I don't know if 875 00:52:46,620 --> 00:52:49,440 that's got anything to do with this. But that connection does 876 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,550 exist. A Geithner's 877 00:52:50,550 --> 00:52:53,190 Father Peter Geitner was the head of the Ford Ford 878 00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:58,440 Foundation, Ford Foundation's Asia grantmaking in the 80s, and 879 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,850 including microfinance grants, Obama's mother and Dunham so 880 00:53:02,850 --> 00:53:08,310 Taro developed the microfinance program in Indonesia. So 881 00:53:08,340 --> 00:53:11,220 there's, you know, I think that that is it's the cover up the 882 00:53:11,220 --> 00:53:15,840 cover up is the problem. It's, I, I have to agree with you, I 883 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,480 think, you know, he is an American, a natural born 884 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,650 citizen, but not the one that we've been told and that cover 885 00:53:22,650 --> 00:53:25,170 up is coming back to bite him in the ass. That's the problem. 886 00:53:25,170 --> 00:53:28,290 That's why they hired Donald Trump, who you and I could hire 887 00:53:28,290 --> 00:53:31,170 him if we had enough money. He'd go out there and say, You know 888 00:53:31,170 --> 00:53:35,880 what? Wealth? The best podcast in the universe is no agenda 889 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,330 show. How much do you think it would cost to get Trump to do 890 00:53:39,330 --> 00:53:40,080 that million? I 891 00:53:40,110 --> 00:53:41,970 think it would cost as much as you think really 892 00:53:41,970 --> 00:53:44,820 think it'd be cheaper than that. Hmm. We could get blight. We 893 00:53:44,820 --> 00:53:45,690 could get his dogs. One 894 00:53:45,690 --> 00:53:48,270 of those guys he works. He's a worker. He's a workaholic, he 895 00:53:48,270 --> 00:53:51,240 would do anything for money. So I think you know, 20 grand, 896 00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:52,440 you'd probably get him to do that. 897 00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:55,890 Really? Now let's put in a call. Who do we call her? I 898 00:53:55,890 --> 00:53:59,460 know these types of people. Do you know who to call? No, I'm 899 00:53:59,460 --> 00:54:04,380 not doing the best podcasts universe but Trump said that it 900 00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:06,150 would be worth 20,000 We probably would not 901 00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:10,080 I'm not on CNN, I'd have to be on my run a real CNN show. 902 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,810 They take one listen to this show. And these guys 903 00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:16,290 now now, you should be like, you know, O'Reilly or something 904 00:54:16,380 --> 00:54:17,640 where people are watching. 905 00:54:18,029 --> 00:54:21,239 How are we gonna get ABC plug in O'Reilly show? 906 00:54:21,569 --> 00:54:28,079 We're ABC. Let's get let's get Diane. Diane. Diane. Diane, you 907 00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:31,319 saw stuff. Mitch, you listen, the best podcasting University. 908 00:54:31,319 --> 00:54:34,919 Have you ever heard that? You know what? Let's apply. 909 00:54:40,980 --> 00:54:43,950 Anyway, so I think that's what's going on there. And I think it's 910 00:54:43,950 --> 00:54:46,710 a good theory. It's like it's like a double whammy. It's a 911 00:54:47,070 --> 00:54:49,530 it's a reverse on top of a reverse. It's the reverse 912 00:54:49,530 --> 00:54:53,310 psychology reversed. So of course they're worried about the 913 00:54:53,310 --> 00:54:57,810 cover up coming out. So hired Donald Trump to have CNN bitch 914 00:54:57,810 --> 00:55:01,950 Adam as a smokescreen. Yeah. And because he and Sununu are both 915 00:55:01,950 --> 00:55:04,470 saying the same thing. Let's talk about jobs. And I'm like 916 00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:06,780 you're part of the scam. You're part of the theater that is 917 00:55:06,780 --> 00:55:11,190 being set up, unfortunately. Well, actually, it's this is a 918 00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:14,160 good place to do it because no one really watches CNN. But then 919 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,710 the CNN clip gets used over and over, because that's yeah, 920 00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:19,770 that's everywhere. Yeah, that Blitzer thing got used 921 00:55:19,770 --> 00:55:23,220 everywhere. So I think that it's a strategy, but you know, if 922 00:55:23,220 --> 00:55:26,820 that's if they have to resort to those types of tactics. I mean, 923 00:55:26,820 --> 00:55:31,590 that's really then things are really out of control. I got 924 00:55:31,590 --> 00:55:35,940 some real problems. And you think Obama's got problems? You 925 00:55:35,940 --> 00:55:39,540 see what happened to Tony Blair, in Gitmo nation East? I love 926 00:55:39,540 --> 00:55:40,050 this 927 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,880 youlet because of his PR guy. 928 00:55:42,839 --> 00:55:47,159 No, he was. And he's, he's going through, he's testifying again, 929 00:55:47,189 --> 00:55:50,549 the guy's always always has to testify, because the Iraq 930 00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:54,989 testify. Yeah. So we know the guy's a war criminal along with 931 00:55:54,989 --> 00:55:56,399 the George W. Bush. 932 00:55:57,270 --> 00:56:01,200 Everybody seems to be I mean, which bite which will bring us 933 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,480 back to the Charles Taylor thing, which I think is kind of 934 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:08,460 interesting. Since a war criminal, I mean, this is, I 935 00:56:08,460 --> 00:56:12,210 don't know, this is I would be I if I was pressed, we didn't we 936 00:56:12,210 --> 00:56:14,850 didn't we didn't talk about Charles Taylor yet. And I got 937 00:56:14,850 --> 00:56:17,730 some clips about that. But I was gonna say if I was president in 938 00:56:17,730 --> 00:56:20,040 today's world with the especially after the Charles 939 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,550 Taylor thing, you'd shut down the internet. Well, I do that 940 00:56:23,550 --> 00:56:27,180 anyway. But I just think that the idea like what Obama's doing 941 00:56:27,180 --> 00:56:29,610 with these drones is just he's not going to be able to go to 942 00:56:29,610 --> 00:56:30,540 Europe ever. 943 00:56:30,690 --> 00:56:33,900 No. Oh, no, he's gonna have to go to you know, Paraguay, 944 00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:37,680 Paraguay, or maybe just go hang at the bush ranch. He's working 945 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:42,420 for that. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. In Paraguay. Exactly. So he he's a 946 00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:46,980 very interesting three parter, really only a minute of of 947 00:56:46,980 --> 00:56:49,830 audio, but a three parter for it. So he's testifying. There's 948 00:56:49,830 --> 00:56:53,610 an interruption. And then what he does next really caught my 949 00:56:53,610 --> 00:56:54,090 attention. 950 00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:58,050 Labor Party policy of this stage, but we can we can check 951 00:56:58,050 --> 00:57:00,600 his evidence on that. I thought it was part of the five but 952 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:00,930 anyway. 953 00:57:05,550 --> 00:57:09,510 This man is to be arrested for JP Morgan pay him off for the 954 00:57:10,530 --> 00:57:15,600 three months off, we invaded Iraq. Iraq bank for 20 billion. 955 00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:21,870 It was pay $6 million every year and steal from JP Morgan six 956 00:57:21,870 --> 00:57:23,280 months after he left office. 957 00:57:26,820 --> 00:57:31,320 Right on very good. I like this the man Oh, and by the way, I 958 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,920 told us that one my totally this was live. I totally agree with 959 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,490 the JP Morgan connection is completely true. You know, Blair 960 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,480 got out. He's, he's, you know, he's 100 millionaire, making all 961 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,890 kinds of consultant fee 962 00:57:43,890 --> 00:57:47,760 presidents. That never used to happen, although it's claimed 963 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:52,020 that Martin Van Buren was the first guy who monetize the 964 00:57:52,020 --> 00:57:55,500 presidency. And it could come out of the presidency as a 965 00:57:55,500 --> 00:57:59,040 public servant richer, told him when he went in, which is what 966 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,030 we saw with Clinton in His Word, yes, yes, ludicrous amount of 967 00:58:03,030 --> 00:58:03,270 money. 968 00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:06,030 This is this is now the scam. It's not what you do while 969 00:58:06,030 --> 00:58:08,550 you're in office. It's what you set up to do when you're out of 970 00:58:08,550 --> 00:58:12,210 office. So you get your your compound in the Paraguay ranch. 971 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:17,190 And so now the the judge or the douchebag, presiding over the 972 00:58:17,580 --> 00:58:20,730 over this, a court hearing has something to say. 973 00:58:21,420 --> 00:58:31,020 And I'd like to find out how this gentleman managed to access 974 00:58:31,050 --> 00:58:35,010 the court through what is supposed to be a secure 975 00:58:35,759 --> 00:58:40,229 corridor, I will assert that it was an inside job, I will assert 976 00:58:40,229 --> 00:58:44,609 that we have our people everywhere, in all positions of 977 00:58:44,609 --> 00:58:47,729 power. And the elite should be very worried about this. Because 978 00:58:47,729 --> 00:58:50,969 of course, a guy can't just burst in through a secure 979 00:58:50,969 --> 00:58:55,229 corridor. Now, because he was led in, this is how it works. 980 00:58:55,229 --> 00:58:57,989 And we're everywhere. And this is going to happen more and more 981 00:58:58,079 --> 00:58:59,309 and Blair's afraid of it. 982 00:59:00,630 --> 00:59:03,990 And I'll have an investigation undertaken about that. 983 00:59:05,010 --> 00:59:05,760 Immediately. 984 00:59:10,530 --> 00:59:14,010 Can I just say actually called the record what he said about 985 00:59:14,370 --> 00:59:17,550 Iraq and JP Morgan is completely and totally untrue. I've never 986 00:59:17,550 --> 00:59:19,140 had a discussion with them about that. 987 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:25,050 Now, why would you do that? Blair? Why would you? Not true? 988 00:59:25,050 --> 00:59:28,350 What do you said? That was a mistake. If 989 00:59:28,350 --> 00:59:32,280 you go back and play that last check that clip again. He parses 990 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,940 it in a funny way that it just 991 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,290 for the record, but he said about Iraq and JP Morgan is 992 00:59:40,290 --> 00:59:43,080 completely and totally untrue. I've never had a discussion with 993 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,440 them about that, or any relationship between them. 994 00:59:47,790 --> 00:59:51,960 I know. He says I never had a discussion with bow about that. 995 00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:52,680 Oh, yeah, no, he's 996 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,710 totally lying. That's what I mean. It's like, Why would you 997 00:59:55,710 --> 00:59:59,970 eat? I mean, what an idiot. He just made it worse. 998 01:00:00,329 --> 01:00:03,419 Yeah, you should have just shook his hand and the judge 999 01:00:03,420 --> 01:00:08,520 tries. The judge tries to save him. Your title say what you 1000 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:14,940 want, but not feel it necessary to ixnay on the Aikman stay err 1001 01:00:14,940 --> 01:00:20,910 bleh he'd get a lip. Yeah, shut up, man. Shut up. I got this 1002 01:00:20,910 --> 01:00:22,440 cover. Now, what do you do? 1003 01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:26,610 No, I appreciate that. But part of the difficulty actually with 1004 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,040 modern politics, and I'd say this not as a criticism, the 1005 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,310 media is the my experience of the reporting of these events is 1006 01:00:32,670 --> 01:00:35,760 that you can have 1000 people in a room and someone gets up and 1007 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,910 shouts or throw something. That's the news. Yeah, no, 1008 01:00:38,910 --> 01:00:42,180 it's the truth. It's not the news. It's the truth. You're a 1009 01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:42,990 war criminal. 1010 01:00:46,110 --> 01:00:47,310 war criminal. 1011 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:54,330 Man, so I thought that was kind of fun. And I hope we see a lot 1012 01:00:54,330 --> 01:00:57,990 more of this. And that was clearly an inside job. 1013 01:00:58,380 --> 01:01:00,900 The way the guy got it. Yeah. Well, I think the judges right 1014 01:01:00,900 --> 01:01:01,800 how do you get in? 1015 01:01:02,370 --> 01:01:05,310 Because I won't let him in. is how it works. 1016 01:01:05,310 --> 01:01:06,960 He was dead or whatever. 1017 01:01:06,990 --> 01:01:08,580 These are media hackers, man. 1018 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:16,500 So I'm watching talking about war criminals. So I'm just here 1019 01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:20,910 Victoria Nuland. Your buddy yeah, I 1020 01:01:20,910 --> 01:01:24,300 have. I have a couple State Department clips. But are we 1021 01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:26,430 moving? Are we moving on to Syria? John? 1022 01:01:26,910 --> 01:01:30,450 Yes. I do that when we sent out the last newsletter that we did 1023 01:01:30,450 --> 01:01:35,550 we it was unavoidable. Yeah, I got some good, bad. You've got 1024 01:01:35,550 --> 01:01:37,980 some better stuff than this. But this one thing got to me. 1025 01:01:38,010 --> 01:01:40,650 Victoria Nuland is, of course the spokes hole for the 1026 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:41,790 Department of State. He 1027 01:01:41,790 --> 01:01:45,060 just seems like a dummy to me. But I like to I'm going to ask 1028 01:01:45,060 --> 01:01:48,960 this as an ask Adam, why don't you play the de Victoria Nuland 1029 01:01:49,050 --> 01:01:54,600 blames the Iran Iran I'm sorry for the Syria massacre 1030 01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:58,800 this morning. We called in Syrian shores aid affairs are 1031 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,550 here to bore and informed him that he is no longer welcome in 1032 01:02:02,550 --> 01:02:08,310 the United States and gave him 72 hours to depart. We took this 1033 01:02:08,310 --> 01:02:12,060 action in response to the massacre in the village of 1034 01:02:12,060 --> 01:02:18,600 haula. Absolutely indicee. indefensible vile despicable 1035 01:02:19,230 --> 01:02:23,550 massacre against innocent children. 1036 01:02:24,299 --> 01:02:28,439 Stop it. They back it up. Did she say indispensable? 1037 01:02:28,529 --> 01:02:34,169 Let me listen again. Interesting choice of words. I'll 1038 01:02:34,199 --> 01:02:41,279 despicable. Further back. Okay, cool. 1039 01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:43,710 Yeah. 1040 01:02:44,700 --> 01:02:49,080 It was a massacre in the village of Paula. Absolutely in despair, 1041 01:02:49,110 --> 01:02:50,460 indefensible. 1042 01:02:51,660 --> 01:02:55,860 It was gonna say indefensible, then she said, indefensible. 1043 01:02:56,010 --> 01:03:00,210 She's gonna say in dispensing said indefensible, interesting, 1044 01:03:00,299 --> 01:03:07,169 vile, despicable massacre against innocent children, 1045 01:03:07,199 --> 01:03:13,439 women, shot at point blank range by regime thugs that should be 1046 01:03:13,439 --> 01:03:17,969 her, aided and abetted by the Iranians who were actually 1047 01:03:17,969 --> 01:03:21,419 bragging about it over the weekend. Oh. 1048 01:03:23,790 --> 01:03:24,900 All right, you can ask me. 1049 01:03:25,380 --> 01:03:29,280 All right. Where were the Iranians? And she said it right, 1050 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:33,120 by the way. Yeah. Iranians bragging about it, bragging 1051 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,350 about it over the I looked 1052 01:03:34,350 --> 01:03:37,260 and looked, they were not bragging about it. There was why 1053 01:03:37,260 --> 01:03:37,620 did she 1054 01:03:37,620 --> 01:03:40,110 say they were bragging about and this got picked up by all the 1055 01:03:40,110 --> 01:03:42,780 news media behind it. 1056 01:03:45,660 --> 01:03:49,050 There is so much disinformation going on about this hula hoop 1057 01:03:49,050 --> 01:03:55,110 affair. So, of course, we need to step back just a few steps. 1058 01:03:55,500 --> 01:04:01,920 With the BBC starting off by talking about indefensible. The 1059 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:11,070 BBC showing a picture of a rocky bodies from 2006, I believe, and 1060 01:04:11,070 --> 01:04:16,320 saying that those were the bodies of Syrians. You surely 1061 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,070 you've heard of this? 1062 01:04:17,100 --> 01:04:20,460 Right? Yeah, this was all over the place. And this and they did 1063 01:04:20,490 --> 01:04:23,790 picture they used it on the front page of the BBC website. 1064 01:04:23,790 --> 01:04:27,090 And it was from it was from 2006. And it wasn't even in 1065 01:04:27,090 --> 01:04:31,530 Syria. They got you know, slammed by by a bogus picture. 1066 01:04:31,710 --> 01:04:33,660 And you don't know how much of this and then they still have 1067 01:04:33,660 --> 01:04:36,960 you still watch the reports on the BBC is we can't confirm this 1068 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,520 video is the theme. 1069 01:04:38,580 --> 01:04:41,820 Right? So but they don't apologize for it. I think that's 1070 01:04:41,820 --> 01:04:47,670 a major gaffe, major gaffe for an organization that claims to 1071 01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:51,000 be so apologize for no, they have not apologized for this. 1072 01:04:51,210 --> 01:04:54,510 They've not apologize now instead, because they needed to 1073 01:04:54,510 --> 01:05:00,720 distract something. Then they do. The the BBC nightly News. 1074 01:05:01,140 --> 01:05:06,270 They talk about, you know, this Houla massacre. And they talk 1075 01:05:06,270 --> 01:05:09,630 about the United Nations Security Council, that they are 1076 01:05:09,630 --> 01:05:15,870 now discussing this. And they show the logo from Halo, the 1077 01:05:15,870 --> 01:05:20,040 video game Halo, they show the United Nations Space Command 1078 01:05:20,070 --> 01:05:25,290 logo. And I have to believe this is on purpose. Like, we got to 1079 01:05:25,290 --> 01:05:28,200 distract the attention from the from this thing. Let's throw 1080 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:32,400 this up and they apologized for that, that they did apologize 1081 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,960 for. So the BBC the BBC is very complicit in all this. Yeah. And 1082 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:41,910 then we get well, of course, it is the exact same type of script 1083 01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:44,970 as we've seen in Iraq, the same type of script we've seen in 1084 01:05:44,970 --> 01:05:50,790 Libya. The key here is to bring in something about children. 1085 01:05:51,390 --> 01:05:58,530 Let's listen to Australian foreign minister Bob Carr, 1086 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:02,460 not you knighted nations is demanding an immediate ceasefire 1087 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:03,840 to end the bloodshed. 1088 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,870 Ladies and gentlemen, Australians have seen the bodies 1089 01:06:06,870 --> 01:06:07,530 in hula 1090 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:12,420 have we have we really now? I've seen like pictures in which 1091 01:06:12,420 --> 01:06:15,360 looks like an auditorium I saw pictures in a ditch. I saw the 1092 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,630 pictures on the BBC. I don't know what I'm seeing Mr. Bob 1093 01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:20,880 Carr and they were a pool, a polder pool 1094 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:25,920 that a regime could conniving or organize the the execution the 1095 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,840 killing of men, women and children. 1096 01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:31,890 Okay. And then we have Alistair berry from the get my nation 1097 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,480 east to a foreign official something ministry department 1098 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:41,100 were polled at point old same script has to be credible 1099 01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:41,880 reports 1100 01:06:42,270 --> 01:06:46,770 appears to be credible reports. I mean, this is crazy. The 1101 01:06:46,770 --> 01:06:49,830 Syrian regime has been responsible for the deaths of 92 1102 01:06:49,830 --> 01:06:54,090 civilians in hula, including 32 Children, the UN head of mission 1103 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:59,220 has been able to confirm the numbers and also that artillery 1104 01:06:59,220 --> 01:07:02,670 tank shells have been used. This is the case then it's an act of 1105 01:07:02,700 --> 01:07:04,230 pure naked savagery, 1106 01:07:04,260 --> 01:07:07,950 savagery, which is a technical term. And then and then the 1107 01:07:07,950 --> 01:07:13,200 guardian. They do the ultimate. They say we spoke for 15 minutes 1108 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:18,060 to a young boy. And the young boy tells this horrible 1109 01:07:18,060 --> 01:07:21,000 harrowing tale and we don't have the boy's name we don't have on 1110 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:25,080 video we just have their story we have to believe believe the 1111 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:31,230 boy that the Syrian troops came in were killing they they shot 1112 01:07:31,230 --> 01:07:34,860 five bullets at the door of our house. They said they wanted my 1113 01:07:34,860 --> 01:07:38,640 father my brother they shot me They shot my mother They shot my 1114 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:42,120 brother I put his his blood on me so they thought I was dead. 1115 01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:44,490 And this reminds me so much 1116 01:07:44,490 --> 01:07:48,240 a minute Who does it so these guys can let me get this 1117 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,390 straight. So these guys according to the story, this get 1118 01:07:51,390 --> 01:07:54,000 these guys come in they shoot the dad they shoot the brother 1119 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,360 they shoot the mother and then he he rushes over to one of them 1120 01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,450 puts blood on himself as I suppose the guys must be 1121 01:08:00,450 --> 01:08:03,450 standing there that just shot these people the hole so he 1122 01:08:03,450 --> 01:08:06,420 pretends he's betting the end and then the dummies go oh, look 1123 01:08:06,420 --> 01:08:09,960 at that kid there he must be dead. What? This space? No, this 1124 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,610 story makes zero sense. 1125 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:16,620 Read the entire Guardian article 413 dot na shownotes.com onto 1126 01:08:16,620 --> 01:08:19,860 the Syria node, you can see everything. And of course, this 1127 01:08:19,860 --> 01:08:28,650 is a complete callback to the so called Nerea and Nyira defense 1128 01:08:28,650 --> 01:08:31,740 or testimony, which happened in the United States Congress. This 1129 01:08:31,740 --> 01:08:34,800 is the next step. This was the girl who turned out to be the 1130 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,590 daughter of a Kuwaiti ambassador. And here was the 1131 01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:41,520 tearful the tearful testimony she gave which of course was the 1132 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,630 tipping point for all out shock and awe 1133 01:08:46,710 --> 01:08:50,010 was there I saw the Iraqi soldiers come into the hospital 1134 01:08:50,010 --> 01:08:52,140 with guns they took the 1135 01:08:52,140 --> 01:08:58,830 babies I think commanders Thank you bears and let the children 1136 01:08:58,860 --> 01:08:59,700 today on the call. 1137 01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,180 And of course this was completely fabricated for a 1138 01:09:03,180 --> 01:09:06,660 woman Yeah, complete actress yet completely fabricated. 1139 01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:09,240 Right. And nobody's up in arms about the fact that this took 1140 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,480 place. I mean, they it was actually admitted to after a 1141 01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:15,750 while. Yeah. Oh, well, you know, yeah. So it goes. Yeah. So it's 1142 01:09:15,750 --> 01:09:19,440 not believable to me how passive everybody is about these frauds. 1143 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,800 Let me play my real quick clip here on Sirius scam perspective. 1144 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,220 This is another BBC report where they're talking about one of 1145 01:09:26,220 --> 01:09:30,270 these towns and it's from the camera and all the crew is on 1146 01:09:30,270 --> 01:09:34,500 the side of the rebels who are shooting aimlessly just remember 1147 01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:37,560 that when we were covering the other phony baloney that was 1148 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,200 shooting, shooting into the air shooting into the airship, boom, 1149 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,840 boom, boom, boom, boom, and they sell it but meanwhile, they 1150 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,600 admit that the troops the government troops have long 1151 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,090 since left the city but these guys are still running around 1152 01:09:48,090 --> 01:09:50,520 shooting. And this is what it sounds like. 1153 01:09:52,590 --> 01:09:55,980 There's no sign of Kofi Annan pleading for peace in Syria 1154 01:09:55,980 --> 01:09:59,490 being heated. latest pictures show outbreaks of violence in 1155 01:09:59,490 --> 01:10:04,080 different parts of the country. Syrian forces may have pulled 1156 01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,170 back from this checkpoint Yeah, hula where last Friday's 1157 01:10:07,170 --> 01:10:10,320 massacre took place. But the government still insists that 1158 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,710 terrorists not its forces carried out the atrocities. 1159 01:10:14,730 --> 01:10:19,530 The Syrian government this year, people are extremely troubled 1160 01:10:19,590 --> 01:10:26,520 with this heinous and unjustified terrorist crime that 1161 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:27,600 took place and that Hola. 1162 01:10:28,109 --> 01:10:32,309 Yeah, of course it's al Qaeda and that's the CIA operatives. 1163 01:10:32,729 --> 01:10:37,319 So then I watched yesterday's State Department press 1164 01:10:37,319 --> 01:10:40,319 conference Nuland has been moved out to had to bring in toner 1165 01:10:40,349 --> 01:10:41,309 Mark Toner, 1166 01:10:41,369 --> 01:10:45,779 oh, new FICA? Somebody looked into this. Oh, yes. Celebration 1167 01:10:45,779 --> 01:10:48,209 by the Iranians that never took place. 1168 01:10:48,330 --> 01:10:52,650 So here is here's the talking points. And it's very 1169 01:10:52,650 --> 01:10:55,470 interesting. What what took place here I have three separate 1170 01:10:55,470 --> 01:10:59,460 clips. The first one and some of this is hard to hear because 1171 01:10:59,460 --> 01:11:01,470 they don't always turn the mic on the journalists, good 1172 01:11:01,470 --> 01:11:07,230 journalists in this crowd. You never ever, ever see these press 1173 01:11:07,230 --> 01:11:10,620 conferences on the news. I love watching them. They're kind of 1174 01:11:10,620 --> 01:11:13,830 tedious because sometimes it's total bull crap. So here is an 1175 01:11:13,830 --> 01:11:17,040 important kickoff to the questioning about Syria peace. 1176 01:11:17,070 --> 01:11:20,520 I mean, when the observers are there, they are stopping 1177 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:25,110 violence they you're seeing that people are allowed to freely 1178 01:11:25,530 --> 01:11:29,550 now you hear what she said. She already said peacekeepers it's 1179 01:11:29,550 --> 01:11:33,360 not observers. Now we now move from observers to peacekeepers 1180 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,430 very key differentiation here. 1181 01:11:35,459 --> 01:11:38,039 We call them peacekeepers. But what it does speak to is the 1182 01:11:38,039 --> 01:11:43,469 fact that their very presence as witnesses as monitors can often 1183 01:11:44,189 --> 01:11:46,439 prevent the government from carrying out atrocities. But 1184 01:11:46,440 --> 01:11:49,320 does that not sort of overstate their mandate? I mean, what is 1185 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,650 the difference between that and what peacekeepers do I 1186 01:11:52,650 --> 01:11:55,830 refer you to the UN for the delineation between the two you 1187 01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:57,480 slick toner slogans you said, 1188 01:11:58,109 --> 01:12:02,009 you will walk into convened the Security Council. So what type 1189 01:12:02,009 --> 01:12:03,869 of prison what we're consulting 1190 01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:07,410 the assault into? Security Council? So 1191 01:12:07,770 --> 01:12:12,240 what kind of resolution are you looking for? Is it under the 1192 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,750 shot chapter chapter seven, you insist on it or just 1193 01:12:15,750 --> 01:12:16,530 condemnation? 1194 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,910 I think we're looking again, I don't want to predetermine to 1195 01:12:20,910 --> 01:12:23,850 prejudge what might come out of it. The Secretary has mentioned 1196 01:12:23,850 --> 01:12:25,710 chapter seven resolution but let's wait and see. 1197 01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:28,710 Okay, chapter seven, the Secretary that will be lucid for 1198 01:12:28,710 --> 01:12:31,380 clippety clop. Hillary Clinton. As mentioned chapter seven, 1199 01:12:31,380 --> 01:12:35,790 we've seen this move from five to six to seven. Here we are 1200 01:12:35,790 --> 01:12:40,380 chapter seven of the United Nations Charter, article 41. The 1201 01:12:40,380 --> 01:12:44,130 Security Council may decide what measures not involving the use 1202 01:12:44,130 --> 01:12:47,070 of armed force or be too employed to give effect to its 1203 01:12:47,070 --> 01:12:50,370 decisions and may call upon the members of the United Nations to 1204 01:12:50,370 --> 01:12:55,380 apply such measures. These may include these may include 1205 01:12:55,380 --> 01:13:00,030 complete or partial interruption of economic relations, and rail 1206 01:13:00,030 --> 01:13:02,370 sea air, postal telegraphic radio, other means of 1207 01:13:02,370 --> 01:13:05,790 communication, then we move on to article 42. Should the 1208 01:13:05,790 --> 01:13:09,480 Security Council consider that major provided for in article 41 1209 01:13:09,480 --> 01:13:13,860 would be inadequate, or proved to be inadequate, it may take 1210 01:13:13,860 --> 01:13:18,420 such action by air, sea or land forces as may be necessary to 1211 01:13:18,420 --> 01:13:22,080 maintain or restore international peace and security 1212 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:27,030 sucks at such action may include demonstrations, blockade, and 1213 01:13:27,030 --> 01:13:30,720 other operations by air, sea or land forces of the members of 1214 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:35,070 the United Nations. So we're on deck. We're on deck to implement 1215 01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:40,320 a chapter seven resolution which will mean you know, no fly zone 1216 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:45,030 droning bombing, etc. And now we get to now toner messes it up, 1217 01:13:45,060 --> 01:13:50,820 and Jill and Matt. And Matt is the guy we love. Jill is she's 1218 01:13:50,820 --> 01:13:55,140 the woman from Yeah, oh, what's her last name? The blonde kind 1219 01:13:55,140 --> 01:13:57,210 of thin face? 1220 01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,670 Yeah, I don't know. She's good. She's. 1221 01:14:00,570 --> 01:14:04,500 She's good. So they're not letting up because he, he slips 1222 01:14:04,500 --> 01:14:04,650 up? 1223 01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,520 He goes on Syria as well. Okay. Sorry. 1224 01:14:11,250 --> 01:14:16,920 Overall question is why the United States at this point, is 1225 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:23,220 willing to not really leave. The United States is allowing a 1226 01:14:23,220 --> 01:14:27,690 whole bunch of people, a whole bunch of countries to kind of 1227 01:14:28,050 --> 01:14:33,090 lumber along and make it up as they go along. Something doesn't 1228 01:14:33,090 --> 01:14:37,500 work. Sounds like a science experiment. You know, let's try 1229 01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:40,830 a little bit of this. Let's try a little bit of that. And when 1230 01:14:40,830 --> 01:14:44,640 you look at the HAR, right now, har everyone is saying it's a 1231 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,170 tipping point, sa 1232 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:50,580 o key word. Let's see if we can latch on to the tipping point 1233 01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:52,470 long do you let this experiment go on? 1234 01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:57,420 Well, you know, you're absolutely right in expressing 1235 01:14:57,420 --> 01:15:02,010 heart about what happened in hula. On Friday, you know, Kofi 1236 01:15:02,010 --> 01:15:05,400 Annan referred to it as a tipping point. Certainly, we'd 1237 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:11,190 like to see other nations within the Security Council view it in 1238 01:15:11,190 --> 01:15:15,150 the same light, so that we can bring that concerted effort that 1239 01:15:15,150 --> 01:15:23,550 we feel is necessary to, to basically take Assad out of this 1240 01:15:23,580 --> 01:15:27,870 calculation and to and to lead to a political transition. 1241 01:15:28,140 --> 01:15:34,020 So it's as if John C. Dvorak was transported into the press 1242 01:15:34,020 --> 01:15:40,650 conference into the body of Matt, and saying, what tipping 1243 01:15:40,650 --> 01:15:44,730 point what tipping point at what point? 1244 01:15:46,290 --> 01:15:49,230 Does the administration agree with the former Secretary 1245 01:15:49,230 --> 01:15:52,770 General, this is a tipping point? And if so, it's a tipping 1246 01:15:52,770 --> 01:15:54,540 point for what more inaction? 1247 01:15:55,290 --> 01:15:59,970 I think, you know, you can call it a wake up call, you can call 1248 01:15:59,970 --> 01:16:03,660 the tipping point. But I think that, you know, the events that 1249 01:16:03,660 --> 01:16:10,410 took place in hula, even in a, even in a struggle that's been 1250 01:16:10,410 --> 01:16:18,360 marked by really some profound atrocities, that that hola was, 1251 01:16:19,410 --> 01:16:22,170 was a new reached a new level of 1252 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:25,050 understanding a tipping point for what 1253 01:16:26,220 --> 01:16:31,320 I think tipping point for more international action in concert 1254 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,150 against Assad regime. 1255 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,080 And and you would argue that the expulsion of the diplomats by 1256 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:42,060 the conservative by a group of countries is one. Beginning is 1257 01:16:42,060 --> 01:16:44,130 the beginning of the more conservative action. 1258 01:16:44,970 --> 01:16:47,670 Look, I think we're going to continue to apply pressure bring 1259 01:16:47,670 --> 01:16:50,520 pressure to bear where we can and where it's most effective. 1260 01:16:50,730 --> 01:16:54,030 You know, Tori spoke to the expulsion of these ambassadors 1261 01:16:54,030 --> 01:16:57,060 for shark days yesterday, as a political statement. 1262 01:16:58,470 --> 01:16:59,340 Representative, 1263 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:03,390 the administration sees that as the beginning of a new concerted 1264 01:17:04,260 --> 01:17:05,220 push against 1265 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:10,020 this administration as as been pushing as hard as 1266 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:11,490 he's trying to get him to say it. 1267 01:17:12,900 --> 01:17:14,850 Yeah, there's again to say it probably not. 1268 01:17:15,900 --> 01:17:18,900 Well, the tipping point thing keeps coming back tipping point, 1269 01:17:18,900 --> 01:17:22,620 tipping tipping point, wake up, call tipping point, whatever. 1270 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:30,240 But then just to wrap up what I've got here, PJ Crowley. Who's 1271 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,780 PJ Crowley, I know this guy, T writer, 1272 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,440 low at a press conference, I would hope No, no, no, no, no, 1273 01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:40,020 this is this is not this is on matto actually, which was 1274 01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:42,300 interesting. PJ Crowley. 1275 01:17:42,930 --> 01:17:46,020 Let's do a thing that we can do. It's one of those things that we 1276 01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:46,530 can manage. 1277 01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:50,340 The United States Assistant Secretary of State for Public 1278 01:17:50,340 --> 01:17:50,850 Republic 1279 01:17:50,850 --> 01:17:54,330 affairs, he's another PR student. He 1280 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,750 says something on Rachel Maddow that I found to be interesting. 1281 01:17:57,990 --> 01:18:01,320 Joining us now is PJ Crowley's former assistant secretary and 1282 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,210 spokesman at the State Department. He's currently the 1283 01:18:03,210 --> 01:18:05,850 Omar Bradley chair and strategic leadership at Penn State 1284 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,880 Dickinson College in the Army War College. Mr. Crowley is also 1285 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,120 a retired colonel who served 26 years in the Air Force and a 1286 01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,120 retired colonel. So he understands the importance of 1287 01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,760 Syria, which we still don't understand. But I think he lets 1288 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:18,870 it slip here. PJ Crowley, 1289 01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:21,570 thank you for being here. Pleasure ritual, that the 1290 01:18:21,570 --> 01:18:26,010 details of the hula massacre are, are awful enough without 1291 01:18:26,010 --> 01:18:28,650 knowing who did it the State Department very strongly 1292 01:18:28,650 --> 01:18:31,830 emphasizing today, not just that it was militia, but that it was 1293 01:18:31,830 --> 01:18:36,120 Syrian militia aided by Iran. Is that the thing that an 1294 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,490 exclamation point should be on here. It's not the most 1295 01:18:38,490 --> 01:18:41,790 important part of us. It's one of two. And the report 1296 01:18:41,790 --> 01:18:44,790 highlighted the other end, which is where does Russia go since 1297 01:18:44,790 --> 01:18:48,990 Syria is its most significant remaining client state in the 1298 01:18:48,990 --> 01:18:53,040 Middle East? Its entry into influence in the region. If 1299 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,610 Russia shifts, a lot of things that have not been possible for 1300 01:18:56,610 --> 01:18:57,870 the past year become possible. 1301 01:18:57,930 --> 01:18:59,340 What does that mean? 1302 01:19:00,660 --> 01:19:06,570 If rush lines probably hate this, throw that back? By the 1303 01:19:06,570 --> 01:19:11,850 way, just as an aside, I used to bring in Rachel Maddow clips, 1304 01:19:11,850 --> 01:19:16,860 and you did nothing but grouse about it. Just mentioning this 1305 01:19:16,860 --> 01:19:17,220 Sure. 1306 01:19:17,220 --> 01:19:20,550 But this is a guest who's on our shows different. It's about No, 1307 01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:21,360 I wouldn't 1308 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:26,040 just have Rachel yakking away. I always had guests. Let's go on. 1309 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,590 Okay, so they're talking. So this guy says something 1310 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,140 fundamentally changes. 1311 01:19:31,170 --> 01:19:32,370 Listen, listen to it. Again, 1312 01:19:32,700 --> 01:19:35,730 if Russia shifts, a lot of things that have not been 1313 01:19:35,730 --> 01:19:37,980 possible over the past year become possible. 1314 01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,770 If Russia shifts a lot of things that it means 1315 01:19:40,770 --> 01:19:42,600 that they go along with the program, which they're not 1316 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,180 doing. They've already said that they're going to veto any 1317 01:19:46,380 --> 01:19:49,470 security council measure against Syria. That's what they've said. 1318 01:19:49,740 --> 01:19:51,990 And so we know we're in negotiations with Russia about 1319 01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:53,970 this in some way or other because this has been going on 1320 01:19:53,970 --> 01:19:55,800 for a while. We've been pointing this out on the show 1321 01:19:55,980 --> 01:19:59,430 for more than a year more than a year or more than a year, 1322 01:19:59,550 --> 01:20:01,710 right because With March, we established that they had the 1323 01:20:01,710 --> 01:20:05,190 ports there and all the rest of it. So and So Russia's still got 1324 01:20:05,190 --> 01:20:08,160 their hands full or arms folded, and they're saying no, not yet. 1325 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,460 No, no, you better do a better deal than that. Or something is 1326 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,730 up with the with our dealing with the Russians. And as soon 1327 01:20:14,730 --> 01:20:17,820 as we get them to sign off, which they'll do eventually, 1328 01:20:17,820 --> 01:20:20,610 because we're the world's will cave on something about the 1329 01:20:20,610 --> 01:20:23,130 Russians have like Eastern Europe or something, who knows 1330 01:20:23,130 --> 01:20:23,220 what 1331 01:20:23,220 --> 01:20:26,340 we're gonna have that have that crap over there and take that 1332 01:20:26,340 --> 01:20:27,630 Eastern Europe, then, 1333 01:20:27,780 --> 01:20:31,080 then then the Russians will say, yeah, yeah, this is terrible. 1334 01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,140 I'm looking at the front page of today's New York Times in Syria 1335 01:20:34,140 --> 01:20:37,230 as the top of the news. And there's a woman holding her kid 1336 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,260 who's wondering why he's being held, I think she's bawling 1337 01:20:40,260 --> 01:20:42,960 about because he got hurt himself or something in this 1338 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,760 like, shot, I guess. 1339 01:20:45,810 --> 01:20:47,700 I'm just giving you some sound effects for this. 1340 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,540 So when the Russians given or when to negotiate them some 1341 01:20:51,540 --> 01:20:53,850 deal, they'll say, Okay, we're gonna do it, they're going to do 1342 01:20:53,850 --> 01:20:56,220 the whole scheme. Again, it's worked every time nobody's 1343 01:20:56,220 --> 01:21:00,090 complained about the no fly zone, the Viagra, the rapes, 1344 01:21:00,150 --> 01:21:02,730 five stuff will come right back into the news, and it's going to 1345 01:21:02,730 --> 01:21:06,420 be part of the cycle and then cereal go down and become part 1346 01:21:06,450 --> 01:21:10,290 of who knows who's gonna take that over? Whatever the case is. 1347 01:21:10,890 --> 01:21:15,180 That change is something fundamentally, it's our job to 1348 01:21:15,180 --> 01:21:17,850 figure out what that fundamental change is, what what does it 1349 01:21:17,850 --> 01:21:21,120 mean? And I would probably guess, I'm sure it's a pipeline 1350 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,700 or oil does something to do with oil or pipe? I mean, Syria is a 1351 01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:27,630 poor country. Yeah. They don't have any real resources. So they 1352 01:21:27,630 --> 01:21:30,600 either are a transit point, or there's something Oh, they're 1353 01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:30,750 well, 1354 01:21:30,750 --> 01:21:33,120 they've got pipelines. We know that they've got pipelines. 1355 01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:36,780 pipelines going on, pipelines up left and right. That's what this 1356 01:21:36,780 --> 01:21:39,570 is about. We've already established that because homes 1357 01:21:39,570 --> 01:21:44,040 is pipeline. It's all pipelines. He maybe he gives us another 1358 01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,440 clue in the next bit here on this list, hold on a second. 1359 01:21:47,460 --> 01:21:48,720 Pick it up here. 1360 01:21:48,810 --> 01:21:52,680 And by the way, this is the guy kind of he got essentially fired 1361 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,710 from his job for saying something about the Bradley 1362 01:21:55,710 --> 01:21:58,200 Manning saying it was like, you know, this bullcrap what you're 1363 01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,890 doing to this guy believe. And he also made, he makes a lot of 1364 01:22:01,890 --> 01:22:03,600 snide remarks, which got he's a 1365 01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,600 loose cannon. I don't think he should have said this. He messed 1366 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,580 something up here with this Russia comment. 1367 01:22:09,330 --> 01:22:12,330 This is perhaps the beginning of a process where Russia will 1368 01:22:12,330 --> 01:22:16,470 recalculate? You know that and we'll make more clear that while 1369 01:22:16,470 --> 01:22:19,920 it supports the Syrian regime, it may or may not continue to 1370 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:21,120 support Bashar Al Assad. So 1371 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:25,140 the thing, the fact that Russia took this one step is very 1372 01:22:25,140 --> 01:22:27,150 important. But the thing to watch is what Russia does next, 1373 01:22:27,150 --> 01:22:29,070 do they revert to their old position? Or do they stick with 1374 01:22:29,070 --> 01:22:31,080 this new one? All right. 1375 01:22:32,250 --> 01:22:33,780 We have to figure it out. 1376 01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,710 But it's we have to figure it out first, but this is just a 1377 01:22:37,710 --> 01:22:40,620 simple pipeline situation. It doesn't sound that fundamentally 1378 01:22:40,620 --> 01:22:42,630 different cuz those pipelines we're going through anyway. 1379 01:22:42,660 --> 01:22:44,580 Well, they want it to come from the Mediterranean, that's the 1380 01:22:44,580 --> 01:22:48,600 only thing I can imagine is they want they want either flowing in 1381 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:52,620 or out or both ways through the Mediterranean. And of course, we 1382 01:22:52,620 --> 01:22:55,680 know that right after Syria, Lebanon is on the list. And 1383 01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,140 already Lebanon is being brought into you're hearing more and 1384 01:22:58,140 --> 01:22:58,920 more of that. 1385 01:22:59,010 --> 01:23:02,790 Yes, started pretty month ago. Oh, how 1386 01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:05,670 can we we need the briefings. We just need to be on them. But can 1387 01:23:05,670 --> 01:23:06,960 we just get on the mailing list? 1388 01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,500 You can get a lot of mailing lists. Just the same talking 1389 01:23:10,500 --> 01:23:13,050 points that Sununu was complaining about. 1390 01:23:13,770 --> 01:23:17,550 I want to get on the mailing list, man. What's going on? 1391 01:23:17,580 --> 01:23:20,700 Somebody should be able to forward as more stuff than we 1392 01:23:20,700 --> 01:23:21,060 get. 1393 01:23:22,110 --> 01:23:28,290 Did I hear you talking on the Horowitz Dvorak unplugged show 1394 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,790 that you use a Geiger counter to see if the fish you're eating? 1395 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,180 have radiation that I hear you actually say that? 1396 01:23:36,450 --> 01:23:39,030 We do have a guy we do have Geiger counters in our family. 1397 01:23:39,090 --> 01:23:43,350 That's not my question. We have checked yes, as a matter of 1398 01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:47,790 fact, we eat a lot of sushi. And we have a total market called 1399 01:23:47,790 --> 01:23:50,790 Tokyo fish market this local and every so often a bunch of fish 1400 01:23:50,790 --> 01:23:56,910 comes in from Japan. And it's various tunas or whatever, then 1401 01:23:56,910 --> 01:23:59,790 there, I don't know. And we've checked him with Jude, you know, 1402 01:23:59,790 --> 01:24:02,100 we just routinely checked our fish once 1403 01:24:02,490 --> 01:24:06,270 and has didn't know. I think 1404 01:24:07,500 --> 01:24:12,330 this is crazy. Yeah. Yes, I do. Why we Geiger counters are very 1405 01:24:12,330 --> 01:24:13,410 high. No, no, I don't 1406 01:24:13,410 --> 01:24:17,430 think that's crazy. I think the what's happened here is another 1407 01:24:17,430 --> 01:24:20,610 fantastic first of all, you and I will agree on one that we 1408 01:24:20,610 --> 01:24:24,690 might disagree somewhere here. We agree that there's been a 1409 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:28,830 decade's long concerted effort against nuclear energy, which is 1410 01:24:28,860 --> 01:24:31,500 probably really bad because if you want to get rid of all of 1411 01:24:31,500 --> 01:24:34,020 the problems that have so called global warming, everything 1412 01:24:34,020 --> 01:24:37,080 nuclear energy is clearly the safest way to go. 1413 01:24:38,190 --> 01:24:41,490 Yeah, I think the French have shown that but it is clearly 1414 01:24:41,490 --> 01:24:44,490 the safest way. You know, we haven't seen millions of people 1415 01:24:44,490 --> 01:24:48,420 die. You know, it's just it's not true. Also, there was in 1416 01:24:48,420 --> 01:24:54,150 now, I don't know enough about nuclear energy, but I do read 1417 01:24:54,150 --> 01:24:57,750 contrarian reports you know, atomic rod Adams where I really 1418 01:24:57,750 --> 01:25:02,160 like reading his stuff and I I corresponded with him a lot. He 1419 01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:06,330 was on a nuclear sub for 30 plus years, actually 33 years, which 1420 01:25:06,330 --> 01:25:09,000 kind of makes me suspicious about our conversation, but 1421 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:13,170 okay. 30 plus years. And you know, and he's very clear look, 1422 01:25:13,170 --> 01:25:15,780 there was the first people always talking about a meltdown 1423 01:25:15,780 --> 01:25:19,410 and all this stuff. There was no meltdown. There's no huge 1424 01:25:19,500 --> 01:25:24,750 radiation killing cloud. But I think what has happened is the 1425 01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:33,720 conspiracy alternative. Internet media, has this meme going, that 1426 01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,450 they're covering up the huge radiation, they're covering it 1427 01:25:36,450 --> 01:25:36,630 up. 1428 01:25:36,809 --> 01:25:41,459 I've seen this email from a lot of our listeners that point out 1429 01:25:41,579 --> 01:25:44,399 and you read this stuff, and it's like, talking about fat, 1430 01:25:44,399 --> 01:25:46,229 you know, it's bull crap. 1431 01:25:46,260 --> 01:25:51,390 Yeah. And I think that they are feeding this by making it sound 1432 01:25:51,390 --> 01:25:53,760 more secret. So no one is actually coming out and saying, 1433 01:25:53,940 --> 01:25:57,930 Yeah, our fish are radiated. Although this report from NBC 1434 01:25:57,930 --> 01:26:01,680 Brian Williams, the lead in alone, the myth the 1435 01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:06,330 disinformation blew me away and I think it's solely intended to 1436 01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:10,770 fire up more conspiracy so that will never ever ever get nuclear 1437 01:26:10,770 --> 01:26:14,100 energy because it's going to kill us by eating irradiated 1438 01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:17,070 fish, which obviously has not happened yet. Because you've 1439 01:26:17,070 --> 01:26:19,380 been checking your and I liked this. You've been checking your 1440 01:26:19,380 --> 01:26:22,350 fish from Japan. No radiation. Listen to this. A 1441 01:26:22,350 --> 01:26:26,760 bluefin tuna caught off the California coast have been found 1442 01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:31,230 to contain elevated levels of radioactive matter, dating back 1443 01:26:31,230 --> 01:26:34,920 to the Japanese earthquake and tsunami that led to that nuclear 1444 01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:35,880 accident. How 1445 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:41,940 does that how, wait a minute. Can you date this? He said, 1446 01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:43,500 Yeah, but it says, 1447 01:26:43,889 --> 01:26:48,689 Can you date radiation? That's bull crap. That's told that's 1448 01:26:48,689 --> 01:26:53,639 ludicrous. So he's setting it up to the Oh, it's dating back to 1449 01:26:53,939 --> 01:26:57,959 the Fukushima reactor. He's feeding the conspiracy. He's 1450 01:26:57,959 --> 01:27:00,119 feeding the beast would you disagree? 1451 01:27:01,980 --> 01:27:04,800 No, I wouldn't disagree at all. And I wonder how that tuna got 1452 01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,790 over here. We don't have a lot of blue Coast off and Long 1453 01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:09,090 Beach. 1454 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,700 Are you kidding me? They have graphs and charts and everything 1455 01:27:11,700 --> 01:27:12,360 Fukushima 1456 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:16,260 power plant. Our report tonight from NBC has Miguel McGerr. 1457 01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,520 Today at the San Pedro fish market in Southern California, 1458 01:27:20,550 --> 01:27:24,600 Dan condotta inspects the catch of the day and stressed his fish 1459 01:27:24,630 --> 01:27:29,400 are safe to eat. The word radiation creates fear in people 1460 01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,420 that 15 bluefin tuna caught and tested off California's coast 1461 01:27:33,420 --> 01:27:37,440 last summer showed low levels of radiation but still 10 times 1462 01:27:37,440 --> 01:27:41,070 higher than normal. Scientists say it's the first time a fast 1463 01:27:41,070 --> 01:27:44,820 moving migrating fish has been shown to carry radioactivity 1464 01:27:44,820 --> 01:27:46,170 from Japanese water. 1465 01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,230 I don't know that they were radiated from Japan. 1466 01:27:49,860 --> 01:27:52,530 Yeah, that could be a big pile of radiation in the middle of 1467 01:27:52,530 --> 01:27:54,090 the ocean that they feed on for all 1468 01:27:54,420 --> 01:27:58,050 Tokyo license plates or something or, you know, how do 1469 01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,690 we almost didn't believe it to tell you the truth. But then we 1470 01:28:00,690 --> 01:28:01,260 got paid to 1471 01:28:01,260 --> 01:28:04,530 tell you Dr. Nicholas Fisher Professor of Marine Science. 1472 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,810 Don't you love the name? Code? There's code sciences 1473 01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:14,070 co authored this study. Every single fish was significantly 1474 01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:18,000 contaminated with two radioisotopes of cesium and 1475 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:22,530 these are common waste products from nuclear accidents that you 1476 01:28:22,530 --> 01:28:26,760 hear how they cut them off common common waste products and 1477 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,580 he says nuclear accidents and then he there's a whole nother 1478 01:28:29,580 --> 01:28:33,930 list of common waste products but they cut them off right 1479 01:28:33,930 --> 01:28:36,150 there to distort the report products 1480 01:28:36,150 --> 01:28:37,920 from nuclear accidents. 1481 01:28:38,010 --> 01:28:41,460 The research shows the Bluefin Tuna that spot and feed in the 1482 01:28:41,460 --> 01:28:44,490 waters near the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. 1483 01:28:44,490 --> 01:28:45,210 Yeah, they're right there 1484 01:28:45,210 --> 01:28:49,530 and they're nibbling on the rods. That's what that was what 1485 01:28:49,530 --> 01:28:51,930 you're supposed to think. Oh man, these tuna that just 1486 01:28:51,930 --> 01:28:54,450 sitting there I just like sucking up all that radiated 1487 01:28:54,450 --> 01:28:55,080 water 1488 01:28:55,110 --> 01:28:59,700 migrated some 6000 miles. Ooh, and boy are my fins tired 1489 01:28:59,730 --> 01:29:02,460 reaching Southern California just a few months after the 1490 01:29:02,460 --> 01:29:06,090 disaster. Though the sample fish are contaminated the levels are 1491 01:29:06,090 --> 01:29:09,390 far lower than what's considered dangerous today. 1492 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,890 So what Yeah, well, that's the whole point. The FDA 1493 01:29:13,950 --> 01:29:17,880 EPA said they'll continue to monitor for radiation and no 1494 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,310 public health concern has been detected 1495 01:29:20,700 --> 01:29:25,680 in US I read all the all the levels etc. And yeah, it's 1496 01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:31,410 elevated. But it's it's still so incredibly minut but this is a 1497 01:29:31,410 --> 01:29:35,730 beautiful campaign to continue to have people and now it's our 1498 01:29:35,730 --> 01:29:39,210 people who have been completely indoctrinated and are afraid of 1499 01:29:39,210 --> 01:29:43,020 nuclear energy. There has been no melt down okay. There's no 1500 01:29:43,050 --> 01:29:45,870 you people keep talking about a melt a true meltdown is 1501 01:29:45,870 --> 01:29:49,830 something completely different. There was no meltdown. Now this 1502 01:29:49,830 --> 01:29:53,550 has been refuted by many many experts. And by the way, now we 1503 01:29:53,550 --> 01:29:58,050 have a new shill coming in to the you know that that douchebag 1504 01:29:58,050 --> 01:30:04,980 resigned the was his name George Zack or what was his name? And a 1505 01:30:04,980 --> 01:30:08,100 shield for what? The nuclear energy commission in the United 1506 01:30:08,100 --> 01:30:09,840 States the guy who was mean to women? 1507 01:30:11,219 --> 01:30:13,469 Yeah, no, I haven't been following it. Oh, sorry. Yeah. 1508 01:30:13,469 --> 01:30:16,859 And uh, well, we talked about it on stuff about this. This 1509 01:30:16,889 --> 01:30:19,469 Bluefin for one thing I didn't know we caught Bluefin off our 1510 01:30:19,469 --> 01:30:25,769 own coast, which is amazingly delicious by the way. This is 1511 01:30:25,769 --> 01:30:27,269 pretty screwy the story? 1512 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,370 No, it's oh, here's atomic rod. He just posted something today. 1513 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,340 The scientists who measured the cesium and performed the 1514 01:30:35,340 --> 01:30:38,070 isotopic analysis to conclusively prove that the 1515 01:30:38,070 --> 01:30:42,510 cesium came from the Fukushima power plants were justifiably 1516 01:30:42,510 --> 01:30:46,530 proud of their skilled use of sensitive scientific tools and 1517 01:30:46,530 --> 01:30:48,780 analytical methods. They published their peer reviewed 1518 01:30:48,780 --> 01:30:54,180 paper in the reputable journal. The authors did a good job of 1519 01:30:54,180 --> 01:30:56,880 selecting their papers title has garnered vastly more attention 1520 01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,990 Hold on. I'm sure rod has some refute on this 1521 01:31:06,420 --> 01:31:10,170 I've got to get into this more. But so Okay, so good. So I'm not 1522 01:31:10,170 --> 01:31:14,760 off base, at least on his side. I gotta tell you, I'm, I'm a pro 1523 01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:18,000 nuke guy. I think it's great. And yeah, we've had accidents. 1524 01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,880 And we've learned we get better. You know, Chernobyl was 1525 01:31:20,910 --> 01:31:25,350 definitely bad. I think maybe 50,000 people died. And that was 1526 01:31:25,350 --> 01:31:31,950 quite a while ago, Three Mile Island. No one died. Now then we 1527 01:31:31,950 --> 01:31:35,850 had Fukushima, 20,000 people died in the tsunami and a couple 1528 01:31:35,850 --> 01:31:39,060 people in the blast. I just I'm just not buying it. I'm not 1529 01:31:39,060 --> 01:31:42,090 believing this. I really am not buying it. I think your 1530 01:31:42,090 --> 01:31:45,840 position is okay. I mean, it's the left the old left 1531 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,450 progressives in the United States that are all panicky 1532 01:31:48,450 --> 01:31:51,840 about this the old ladies I'm kind of a cold guy myself, but 1533 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,460 that's another story here Greg 1534 01:31:53,490 --> 01:31:58,470 jack so he was he's the guy who who resigned he was the meanie 1535 01:31:58,830 --> 01:32:02,100 but now they brought in a she's alright I think she's already 1536 01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:06,450 been what is it that certified but what's the what's the word? 1537 01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:07,980 certifiable? 1538 01:32:08,820 --> 01:32:10,170 They're all certifiable. 1539 01:32:13,350 --> 01:32:14,220 Licensed 1540 01:32:14,430 --> 01:32:17,370 know when you're approved by the by the Senate? 1541 01:32:18,480 --> 01:32:19,710 Oh, confirmed confirmed. 1542 01:32:19,710 --> 01:32:25,440 Yeah, Alison MacFarlane is the new chairman of the Nuclear 1543 01:32:25,710 --> 01:32:29,400 Regulatory Commission. Now she okay now though, she's under 1544 01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:35,820 confirmation now. And she's an anti nuclear. 1545 01:32:37,410 --> 01:32:39,540 And she's the head of the commission, but she will if 1546 01:32:39,540 --> 01:32:42,420 she's concerned and what is the point of this is like putting 1547 01:32:42,570 --> 01:32:46,290 these these teetotaling prohibitionist it ahead of the 1548 01:32:46,290 --> 01:32:47,340 alcohol board. 1549 01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,680 Yeah. Well, that's kind of the point. 1550 01:32:50,910 --> 01:32:52,140 It's dumb because it 1551 01:32:52,140 --> 01:32:57,630 protects the the petrochemical world that we live in. That's 1552 01:32:57,630 --> 01:33:02,400 why it totally and when you look at the uses of thorium, it's 1553 01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,340 just we're being so indoctrinated and the sad thing 1554 01:33:05,340 --> 01:33:08,400 is that our people now the alternative media are calling 1555 01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,370 we're all big cover up. Oh, they're we're all gonna die from 1556 01:33:11,370 --> 01:33:15,270 the radiation. Alex Jones is selling iodine packs. Me and 1557 01:33:15,270 --> 01:33:19,410 break. There's your disinfo agent right there. I'm sorry. 1558 01:33:19,440 --> 01:33:23,100 I'm sorry. That's bullcrap. That's completely not based on 1559 01:33:23,100 --> 01:33:26,400 any type of science. And people give me incredible grief about 1560 01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,550 this, John. When I say I like it, I think nuclear is good. And 1561 01:33:29,550 --> 01:33:33,180 this whole radiated fish is bullcrap proof in the pudding. 1562 01:33:33,330 --> 01:33:38,010 My podcast partner, John C. Dvorak has a Geiger counter and 1563 01:33:38,010 --> 01:33:44,400 checks his sushi What more proof do you need? I asked his 1564 01:33:47,370 --> 01:33:51,000 Geiger counters are cool. Anyway yeah, there's there hasn't been 1565 01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:54,060 any issues with the sushi. I think we better take a 1566 01:33:54,060 --> 01:33:57,270 break. I was I was trying to start it but you keep keep 1567 01:33:57,270 --> 01:33:59,550 saying something extra. So I'm gonna show 1568 01:34:00,930 --> 01:34:04,110 no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, 1569 01:34:04,110 --> 01:34:05,010 yeah, that'd be fun 1570 01:34:12,330 --> 01:34:15,810 so we have a lot of we made up for Sunday because we had a 1571 01:34:15,810 --> 01:34:17,850 miserable Sunday but now you know, unfortunately, I didn't 1572 01:34:17,850 --> 01:34:20,100 balanced this this shard which you know people would be you 1573 01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:22,590 have to understand if we can make it more balanced then you 1574 01:34:22,590 --> 01:34:24,060 know, then we cannot have you up all the 1575 01:34:24,060 --> 01:34:28,140 time on a Thursday show people should make a point of and I 1576 01:34:28,140 --> 01:34:30,570 would say this if you want to get an executive producer ship 1577 01:34:30,780 --> 01:34:33,720 on the cheap. This upcoming Sunday will be a good time 1578 01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,030 because I think we'll probably show get short again. And here 1579 01:34:36,030 --> 01:34:40,290 we go with the cycle. But meanwhile, Peter Bennett and 1580 01:34:40,290 --> 01:34:45,930 Brooke in Brooklyn, Ontario 12407. Which is the most 1581 01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:53,130 uninteresting number in the universe. Welcome from Gitmo Tim 1582 01:34:53,130 --> 01:34:57,240 Hortons. Now Tim Horton is a hamburger chain up in Canada. 1583 01:34:57,480 --> 01:35:01,380 And I will say that I like Tim Horton. All right, I like these 1584 01:35:01,380 --> 01:35:04,230 burgers you do go to the place. It's a very kind of a weird old 1585 01:35:04,230 --> 01:35:07,410 fashioned place where you, they make you the basic burger. And 1586 01:35:07,410 --> 01:35:10,320 then there's all these condiments that you put on it 1587 01:35:10,350 --> 01:35:14,040 yourself. And so you can put all kinds of crazy stuff on these 1588 01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,590 burgers and they're actually very good. I know they come with 1589 01:35:16,590 --> 01:35:20,100 isotopes with a bra bring the Geiger counter next I want an 1590 01:35:20,100 --> 01:35:24,540 isotope burger, but they haven't I like it Tim Hortons All right, 1591 01:35:24,570 --> 01:35:26,730 all right, all right, we'll never make a donation of the 1592 01:35:26,730 --> 01:35:29,550 most uninteresting number. It comes with a built in 1593 01:35:29,550 --> 01:35:32,340 endorsement of the slide was so I've sent a picture of my 1594 01:35:32,340 --> 01:35:35,730 dedication to this number in a separate email I was driving 1595 01:35:35,730 --> 01:35:40,140 along looked down at my odometer read 12407 did was fantastic 1596 01:35:40,140 --> 01:35:44,490 slammed on the brakes and took a picture. I also noticed got rear 1597 01:35:44,490 --> 01:35:48,150 ended. I also noticed there's a flaw to one of your brain worms 1598 01:35:48,150 --> 01:35:53,070 which was which was when in your car think of D for donate and N 1599 01:35:53,070 --> 01:35:57,720 for no agenda. Unfortunately, my card the D which is drive, as 1600 01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:02,520 followed by odo, which makes me a dodo. Douchebag our King 1601 01:36:03,060 --> 01:36:09,840 Stephen Harper as a douchebag Oh Robert Gosh, Sir Robert Gosh, go 1602 01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:13,800 to you Sherwood Park, Alberta another Canadian 12407 It can a 1603 01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:18,690 user into this ITM John and Adam from Gitmo nation back bacon 1604 01:36:19,110 --> 01:36:21,870 Keep up the good work on the best podcast and university in 1605 01:36:21,870 --> 01:36:26,700 his one hot MILF wishes the kid one hot milk it karma shot for 1606 01:36:26,700 --> 01:36:27,570 his Dame 1607 01:36:28,050 --> 01:36:33,900 Okay, sorry. The milk thing is the milk baby right Okay, here 1608 01:36:33,900 --> 01:36:36,270 we go. That's one hot though baby. 1609 01:36:37,590 --> 01:36:39,270 You've got karma 1610 01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:44,280 keep my keep me on my toes. 1611 01:36:44,310 --> 01:36:48,870 Sir. Jason Hoffman Parts Unknown. Oh, she's gonna get my 1612 01:36:48,870 --> 01:36:54,120 nation pizza pie at the moment. Italy again. 11117. I want to do 1613 01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:57,810 a 11111 donation but also decide to vote on the slider wish 1614 01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,560 whistle. So one, one 1.17. I like it. But I think it should 1615 01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,990 be exclusive to Johnson's who was originally his gig. It 1616 01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:06,660 doesn't bother me. And actually Adam does play it better. I 1617 01:37:06,660 --> 01:37:10,350 don't think I do. I emailed my senators regarding loss and I'll 1618 01:37:10,350 --> 01:37:12,510 forward their response along to Adam, if they have anything 1619 01:37:12,510 --> 01:37:15,210 interesting to say please give a good douchebag call out to 1620 01:37:15,210 --> 01:37:19,740 Jordan Kunkel. I turned him on to the show ages ago and he 1621 01:37:19,740 --> 01:37:23,550 still hasn't donated the Boehner and please give the birthday 1622 01:37:23,550 --> 01:37:27,210 shout to my brother Matt. We have an on the list who turns 24 1623 01:37:27,390 --> 01:37:31,440 As always keep up the good work creating the best podcast in the 1624 01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:36,300 universe. We're William Fleming Tulsa, Oklahoma one on one on 1625 01:37:36,300 --> 01:37:40,590 one donation for your hard work for John's Theramin fund. Yes. 1626 01:37:40,950 --> 01:37:45,240 Fairman Theramin that's what I need. Sir John Schuhmann mattes 1627 01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:48,840 you know that Oh, right. All right, that thing, John 1628 01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,960 Schuhmann Madison, Wisconsin $100. The best podcast in the 1629 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:57,870 universe. Franklin Kaczynski, or Kaczynski in Racine, Wisconsin. 1630 01:37:57,870 --> 01:38:01,080 100 bucks first ever donation from Franklin Kaczynski in 1631 01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,230 Racine, Wisconsin. This donation is dedicated to Blogger and 1632 01:38:04,230 --> 01:38:07,050 historian John J. Riley, who was hospitalized with life 1633 01:38:07,050 --> 01:38:09,570 threatening pneumonia. I highly recommend reading through his 1634 01:38:09,570 --> 01:38:13,680 blog archive and book reviews ownership of his site John John 1635 01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,890 Riley dot info may lapse if he doesn't agree cover if you're 1636 01:38:16,890 --> 01:38:19,710 looking for fractals you haven't seen anything yet. On yellow 1637 01:38:20,100 --> 01:38:24,840 belt. I'm going there right after the show. On another note, 1638 01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:29,100 Please pronounce the city of Manassa Wisconsin correctly it's 1639 01:38:29,100 --> 01:38:32,880 midnight Menasheh like cash, 1640 01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:37,800 my mash Manasa Nasha Masha you did it wrong even while he 1641 01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,150 explained it you did it wrong. 1642 01:38:39,330 --> 01:38:42,210 Yeah, well he the way he's got it written is is not right. 1643 01:38:42,660 --> 01:38:47,190 Black Knight mmotank from Playa Del Rey California $100 Huntsman 1644 01:38:47,190 --> 01:38:50,640 karma he needs 1645 01:38:51,540 --> 01:38:52,950 I thought we're gonna finish the note okay. 1646 01:38:54,030 --> 01:38:57,450 For the agenda listeners and host best podcasts universe top 1647 01:38:57,450 --> 01:38:58,950 with Holly Lght to change. 1648 01:39:00,150 --> 01:39:01,830 You've got karma. 1649 01:39:02,970 --> 01:39:05,340 Now mine fell apart here on this stretchy hammer 1650 01:39:05,340 --> 01:39:08,820 to Oh, I think it's Huckle. That's all within whom local? 1651 01:39:10,050 --> 01:39:18,990 Yeah, Melrose somewhere $100 Lebu TA TA in Hesperia, 1652 01:39:18,990 --> 01:39:23,940 California. $100 pronounced Ed Love Bucha te a la Bucha da. 1653 01:39:24,630 --> 01:39:30,870 Okay. Dude, you guys are great. Chris Abraham in Arlington, 1654 01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:34,560 Virginia $100. Because I love please hit me up with some 1655 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:39,690 karma. Adam. Amazing on twit, Adam. So smart. You pawn that 1656 01:39:39,690 --> 01:39:43,860 poll on them. poan them. John, you're right about the PR and 1657 01:39:43,860 --> 01:39:48,150 marketing Cabal. Adam just lost my mom and a quick six weeks to 1658 01:39:48,150 --> 01:39:52,890 Emilio dysplastic syndrome. Yuck. Your DSC shout out to your 1659 01:39:52,890 --> 01:39:56,670 mom rip really moved me thanks, guys. Thank you for sharing that 1660 01:39:56,670 --> 01:39:58,500 he is karma or something. 1661 01:39:58,620 --> 01:40:00,690 I'm going to give him karma you out for sure. 1662 01:40:02,159 --> 01:40:03,029 You've got 1663 01:40:04,230 --> 01:40:08,910 Bradford in in Lake Charles Louisiana $100 rain more 1664 01:40:08,910 --> 01:40:12,660 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania $80 to cook, I succumb to your poor 1665 01:40:12,660 --> 01:40:16,530 mouthing and donated $80. This week I sent him a note back I 1666 01:40:16,530 --> 01:40:19,800 said, you know, my mom used to use that word formatting, 1667 01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:24,180 formatting I said if she was alive today she'd be 100 I don't 1668 01:40:24,180 --> 01:40:26,190 think people will say that anymore. Thanks for the 1669 01:40:26,190 --> 01:40:29,100 continued excellence innovation, entertainment and value. It's 1670 01:40:29,100 --> 01:40:32,340 exactly what we do. If I could kindly request the de douching 1671 01:40:32,340 --> 01:40:34,800 and some losing weight karma it would be greatly appreciated. 1672 01:40:36,990 --> 01:40:39,960 de Deus, you've got karma 1673 01:40:40,440 --> 01:40:44,790 from hills or South Carolina Sir Tim humor 7777 Thanks for 1674 01:40:44,790 --> 01:40:47,850 providing the best podcasts in university some awesome recipes. 1675 01:40:48,180 --> 01:40:51,360 My girlfriend and I cooked a no agenda chicken this weekend and 1676 01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:55,140 it was awesome. While eating the chicken. I heard my favorite 1677 01:40:55,140 --> 01:40:58,650 jingle you will obey and I knew it was a sign that I needed to 1678 01:40:58,650 --> 01:41:01,260 donate here's a super slide whistle donation and I would 1679 01:41:01,260 --> 01:41:04,470 like to request a Hey citizen you will obey jingle please keep 1680 01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:07,350 up the good work and to all the donors you need to get off your 1681 01:41:07,380 --> 01:41:15,180 arse and become donors. You will a citizen 1682 01:41:16,950 --> 01:41:20,520 too many buttons got karma too many buttons. 1683 01:41:21,389 --> 01:41:25,919 Many buttons he says William schmuck smack smack in San Diego 1684 01:41:25,919 --> 01:41:29,069 California sir references do you balance 7575 A little post 1685 01:41:29,069 --> 01:41:31,259 birthday money for me and a little less belly aching from 1686 01:41:31,259 --> 01:41:35,459 you. Really enjoy we do this show is about belly aching. 1687 01:41:36,269 --> 01:41:39,179 Really enjoy the work you guys do Erin Newberry in Aurora, 1688 01:41:39,179 --> 01:41:42,689 Colorado. $75 Please get my human resource daughter Bella a 1689 01:41:42,689 --> 01:41:45,839 birthday shout out we've got that she'll be turning 16 on May 1690 01:41:45,839 --> 01:41:48,899 31. She finds your show. very humorous and informative. I 1691 01:41:48,899 --> 01:41:52,679 tried to teach her that what is said on the news or taught in 1692 01:41:52,679 --> 01:41:55,889 school isn't always the truth and you should research a matter 1693 01:41:55,889 --> 01:42:00,509 before forming an opinion. Your show has helped with this good 1694 01:42:01,679 --> 01:42:06,749 Scott Spencer in Dawsonville Georgia 7007 Part Two Scott from 1695 01:42:06,749 --> 01:42:09,599 Dawsonville again Please don't mention my last name too bad. 1696 01:42:10,169 --> 01:42:16,829 Okay, I'm more drunk now than I was. Okay. I bought drunk Tao 1697 01:42:16,979 --> 01:42:21,299 that I was before Great show. I've been listening longer 1698 01:42:21,299 --> 01:42:24,089 here's a few more dollars shouldn't do it but what the 1699 01:42:24,089 --> 01:42:30,149 hell I need sleep good night slide whistle yeah my slide 1700 01:42:30,149 --> 01:42:30,539 whistle 1701 01:42:36,630 --> 01:42:40,590 that's it. Joe the dish slave sir Joe the dish slave to you in 1702 01:42:40,650 --> 01:42:46,950 Stockton, California. 6969 o are the trend the trend continues 1703 01:42:47,130 --> 01:42:49,350 towards my wife's name hood I want to send a big thanks to 1704 01:42:49,350 --> 01:42:52,020 Paul in Kansas for mentioning our show the ozone nightmare 1705 01:42:52,020 --> 01:42:54,870 during his donation note last show we've got a small but 1706 01:42:54,870 --> 01:42:57,450 fantastic audience so someone taking the time to say they 1707 01:42:57,450 --> 01:43:00,450 enjoy what we do makes me feel like a million bucks. Please 1708 01:43:00,450 --> 01:43:04,110 fire some karma off the Paul. All right, Paul. 1709 01:43:06,300 --> 01:43:07,980 You've got karma. 1710 01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,660 Break Kruger in Seattle Washington is 6969 been 1711 01:43:12,660 --> 01:43:14,820 listening to show since the early days and we devastated to 1712 01:43:14,820 --> 01:43:17,250 lose the best podcast in the universe. You keep me sane for 1713 01:43:17,250 --> 01:43:20,220 the past five years. Take my money and keep on going. Jessie 1714 01:43:20,220 --> 01:43:23,640 Cruz, Highland Park, Illinois 6969. As the trend continues in 1715 01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:25,710 the morning, John and Adam I was I was listening to a coworker 1716 01:43:25,710 --> 01:43:28,320 the other day about candy and I accidentally pronounced it as 1717 01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:37,560 skillets instead of Skittles. I felt like a douche bag you've 1718 01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:38,700 been t do 1719 01:43:39,030 --> 01:43:42,600 it happens Don't worry. It's happened to the best of us 1720 01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:45,720 Damian team and Sir Damien Taman to you in Perth, our favorite 1721 01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:51,090 town 6969 Ross Limon. Lehmann involved in Seville somewhere 1722 01:43:51,330 --> 01:43:58,560 6969 Sam lung Blacknight Sam lung and Toronto. Six 969 Thanks 1723 01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:00,600 for another great show is something for the no agenda 1724 01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:02,730 conference to keep the show going. I love you both. were 1725 01:44:02,730 --> 01:44:05,670 struggling with my last name. I found John's point in the last 1726 01:44:05,670 --> 01:44:08,550 show about clippity clop being the most influential, 1727 01:44:08,580 --> 01:44:11,220 influential female politician in Washington to be quite 1728 01:44:11,220 --> 01:44:14,220 interesting. I always thought Cabinet Secretary positions to 1729 01:44:14,220 --> 01:44:17,280 be more in line with public servants rather than 1730 01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:21,390 politicians. Good point Yeah, very good point. Words have 1731 01:44:21,390 --> 01:44:24,030 meaning and they do I think the media is jumping in the door 1732 01:44:24,030 --> 01:44:26,280 trumping up people in those positions rather than putting 1733 01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:31,080 them in their place. Sit down Lucifer. Yeah, I think he's dead 1734 01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:31,680 right? Yeah, 1735 01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:35,730 I totally agree. Good point. Yes, sir. Says Sir Sir black 1736 01:44:35,730 --> 01:44:40,050 90 loon balloon isn't sure we'll get that pronunciation straight 1737 01:44:40,050 --> 01:44:44,310 eventually. Lebanon Oregon 6969 Is it was this a who was this? 1738 01:44:44,550 --> 01:44:48,240 That Ethan stroupe Oh, Ethan right. After being called out as 1739 01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:51,510 a douchebag on your last show, I was fired at my job. Oh, Home 1740 01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:57,270 Depot. Oh, that's bad. All that was well deserved dose of anti 1741 01:44:57,270 --> 01:45:00,000 karma. I figured I'd better donate before anything else. 1742 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,180 else bad happens please give me some slide whistle find a job 1743 01:45:03,180 --> 01:45:09,840 karma and call up my dad Trevor as a douchebag donating not for 1744 01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:12,450 not donating but for not marrying his professor 1745 01:45:12,450 --> 01:45:17,910 girlfriend so that I could go to college for free yeah no 1746 01:45:17,910 --> 01:45:22,680 alternative motive motive there and to my dad Sukkot I use my 1747 01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:28,170 money however I want let's give him some karma karma 1748 01:45:29,580 --> 01:45:32,190 good things good things in store for you sir. 1749 01:45:32,700 --> 01:45:36,570 Scott Tolstoy no relation I would assume Palin teen or 1750 01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:43,050 Illinois 5888 And here we go. I've done a drakh Wait doe Oh 1751 01:45:43,050 --> 01:45:47,640 yeah. I want to tell you I really loved the show. I did Hey 1752 01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:52,080 citizen with Karva because my parents had laws coming and I 1753 01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:56,250 will leave with us I don't know two years maybe more all boy I 1754 01:45:56,250 --> 01:45:59,970 was trying to avoid that. But it didn't work so I really need big 1755 01:45:59,970 --> 01:46:04,020 as karma to survive this also can you shout out Happy Birthday 1756 01:46:04,020 --> 01:46:08,250 to clink? This is a great guy great guy and we always throwing 1757 01:46:08,250 --> 01:46:12,210 codes at each other like a ping pong game left right left right 1758 01:46:12,210 --> 01:46:14,670 I was trying to propagate the formula need more instructions? 1759 01:46:15,870 --> 01:46:18,810 I love the best podcast in university going back to work 1760 01:46:18,810 --> 01:46:22,080 because then working drunk or I'm drunk because of it. 1761 01:46:23,190 --> 01:46:26,340 Oh man. All right. Awesome. Donation. 1762 01:46:29,910 --> 01:46:31,830 Karma. Big as 1763 01:46:31,830 --> 01:46:34,200 karma drunk karma the best 1764 01:46:34,410 --> 01:46:39,060 bigass karma Alaric Liberty Dec Green River, Wyoming. 5510 w 1765 01:46:39,060 --> 01:46:42,600 goes on a dime from Choi shortly shortly or Colfax in green 1766 01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:48,450 wherever. All right. Liberty. Dec. Yeah, that was Liberty Dec. 1767 01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:52,080 Okay. Andrew Gardner Sir Andrew Gardner, our friend and Avenue 1768 01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:56,130 Maryland 5312. Please send birthday wishes to Krista firmly 1769 01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,440 the cripple from Pennsylvania for our birthday. That was 1770 01:46:58,440 --> 01:47:01,290 Monday I feel horrible forgetting to call because I was 1771 01:47:01,530 --> 01:47:04,770 hitting them in the mouth at the racetrack ITM I wanted to donate 1772 01:47:04,770 --> 01:47:07,350 on Saturday to get karma for my races on Sunday and Monday but I 1773 01:47:07,350 --> 01:47:11,340 had no data service on my phone. The pre karma worked a donation 1774 01:47:11,340 --> 01:47:17,040 of 5312 is 50 was my race number 312 I would give more but recent 1775 01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:19,680 happenings at work left me a little low on spare cash I 1776 01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:23,520 filled out the paperwork and he went on and on and on. Well, so 1777 01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:27,030 he forward to reading hitting them in the mouth again June 16 1778 01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:30,060 through 17th at the Virginia International Raceway we talked 1779 01:47:30,060 --> 01:47:33,810 about him earlier and his little note on the little karma there. 1780 01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,080 Nice got karma. 1781 01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:46,470 Cats for peace donated 5150 saying I will obey Robert Stokes 1782 01:47:46,470 --> 01:47:49,560 Oklahoma City 5033 Keep it the production slaves you guys are 1783 01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:52,980 great to know agenda shows and my favorite to twits on twit 1784 01:47:52,980 --> 01:47:56,010 What a week. Tim and Thomas I know you are listening Don't be 1785 01:47:56,010 --> 01:48:01,680 freeloading douchebags, Bozeman sporting goods in Wilmington, 1786 01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,680 North Carolina to the Lennon and McCartney of podcasting. 1787 01:48:05,940 --> 01:48:09,810 Wait a minute, who is the Lennon? No, I don't want to be 1788 01:48:09,810 --> 01:48:13,860 the Lennon. Who is the mark Chapman Mark David Chapman of 1789 01:48:13,860 --> 01:48:15,900 podcasting who's gonna give us to to the head 1790 01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:22,320 hopefully no one William Bowman or oh I'm sorry Bachman he made 1791 01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:27,720 it import something party Hume Nim nama on a word. I can't see 1792 01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:31,560 the rest of this movie slide this over skepticism part. Port 1793 01:48:31,860 --> 01:48:35,760 Hyuna. I don't know what it is. Anyway, in California, he says 1794 01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:38,790 just 50 Small steps toward eventual knighthood. $50. 1795 01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:42,810 Several shows ago you slaughter my name. I want to challenge 1796 01:48:42,810 --> 01:48:46,650 everybody out there to look at this name. It's B AUGH. M A N 1797 01:48:46,740 --> 01:48:49,620 which should be pronounced beilman. It seems to me. 1798 01:48:49,770 --> 01:48:53,970 Yeah, I would say I think I said Bolman actually, well Biomin 1799 01:48:53,970 --> 01:48:58,530 and the way I pronounce it, but it's Bachman. Now he needs some 1800 01:48:58,530 --> 01:48:58,980 karma 1801 01:48:59,190 --> 01:49:04,170 consultant karma for his friends. They need new contracts 1802 01:49:04,170 --> 01:49:11,400 badly. You've got karma giving karma away is is very powerful, 1803 01:49:11,490 --> 01:49:13,110 I think is all powerful. Kansas 1804 01:49:13,830 --> 01:49:16,830 has an anonymous donation of 50 Atlantic Beach, Florida. $50 1805 01:49:16,830 --> 01:49:20,490 Sister Mary hand grenade of quiet reflection has pulled this 1806 01:49:20,490 --> 01:49:25,980 money from the collection plate. And that's David Martin and also 1807 01:49:25,980 --> 01:49:31,080 David Nicholls in Cottage Grove, Minnesota $50 with no note that 1808 01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:34,140 I have seen but anyway, I want to thank all these people. This 1809 01:49:34,140 --> 01:49:36,960 was a great group of contributors. That's fantastic 1810 01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:40,560 producers and we want to thank them very much for this week's 1811 01:49:40,860 --> 01:49:41,520 Yeah, kinship 1812 01:49:41,550 --> 01:49:43,710 listening to Rachel Maddow is not easy. 1813 01:49:45,750 --> 01:49:54,810 Is it? No. It's very difficult. So sigh and a snide is, as 1814 01:49:54,810 --> 01:49:57,300 you're very annoying. I find her to be the most annoying of all 1815 01:49:57,300 --> 01:50:00,990 those. She was much better when Olbermann It was there to, you 1816 01:50:00,990 --> 01:50:05,040 know, to tell her how to do it, right. So, anyway, 1817 01:50:06,210 --> 01:50:08,580 yes, this was a good showing thank you all so much. And also, 1818 01:50:08,580 --> 01:50:10,860 of course, again, our executive producers and Associate 1819 01:50:10,860 --> 01:50:12,660 Executive producers, all of these names will be in the 1820 01:50:12,660 --> 01:50:17,100 credits on our show notes. 413 dot na shownotes.com Keep that 1821 01:50:17,100 --> 01:50:22,920 come and be a donor and not a boner. And of course, karma I 1822 01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:25,200 think is even better when you give it away. But requesting it 1823 01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,960 appears to work as well, so far, not away. And we've had like one 1824 01:50:28,440 --> 01:50:32,940 or maybe two in as many years negative comments on the karma. 1825 01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:34,830 I mean, we don't I don't know how it works. 1826 01:50:36,900 --> 01:50:38,850 Yeah, most people document good things. 1827 01:50:38,910 --> 01:50:40,500 Yeah. So 1828 01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:45,270 but I don't know about if the anti if the douchebag is anti 1829 01:50:45,270 --> 01:50:49,620 karma as one person seems to suggest in this series, but at 1830 01:50:49,620 --> 01:50:52,350 the end of the day, it's all about value for value. And it's 1831 01:50:52,350 --> 01:50:55,350 a model that can only work with this type of program because 1832 01:50:55,350 --> 01:50:58,740 there's no way you could not have an agenda and run 1833 01:50:58,740 --> 01:51:03,540 commercials take that Zuck. Get your back 1834 01:51:09,330 --> 01:51:12,390 graduates himself you celebrate yesterday sir Jason Hoffman 1835 01:51:12,390 --> 01:51:15,600 wants to say happy birthday to his brother Matt turned 24 Last 1836 01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:20,310 Tuesday and new Mary's daughter Bella turn 16 today and she 1837 01:51:20,310 --> 01:51:24,570 likes. We're happy to hear that Scott Tolstoy says Happy 1838 01:51:24,570 --> 01:51:27,720 Birthday to klinken Sir Andrew Gardner says Happy Birthday to 1839 01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:31,560 the lovely crypto from pa Christa Gardner. Her birthday 1840 01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:33,930 was last Monday happy birthday from all your buddies here at 1841 01:51:33,930 --> 01:51:42,210 the no agenda show. And so we've got a 1234 including Gordon 1842 01:51:42,210 --> 01:51:45,300 Walton who will be knighted by the way Gordon the night and the 1843 01:51:45,300 --> 01:51:49,080 goal are suited to be crowned a night of the Golden order. He 1844 01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:54,330 does not want to ring. He says Keep your damn tungsten. I don't 1845 01:51:54,330 --> 01:51:57,420 know what that means. Okay, but he said that he would keep the 1846 01:51:57,420 --> 01:52:00,240 money in the show. And I was like you sure he's absolutely. 1847 01:52:00,390 --> 01:52:03,420 He just wants a bumper sticker. That's all it wants. Yeah, those 1848 01:52:03,420 --> 01:52:03,780 bumpers 1849 01:52:03,870 --> 01:52:06,360 no agenda nation bumper sticker. There's a there's a couple of 1850 01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:09,240 good ones. There's the one the one that says in the morning no 1851 01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:10,290 agenda show.com No, 1852 01:52:10,290 --> 01:52:12,600 that's not the one the one everyone loves, which I have on 1853 01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:16,380 the back of the truck and Mickey has it on the back of the 99 1854 01:52:16,380 --> 01:52:21,810 rover is wake up in the morning. No agenda show.com That's the 1855 01:52:21,810 --> 01:52:22,770 one people like 1856 01:52:22,919 --> 01:52:26,909 a wake up in the morning. Yeah, wake up in the morning. I like 1857 01:52:26,909 --> 01:52:27,089 it 1858 01:52:27,150 --> 01:52:31,110 and people the gas station would be like, Hey, man, what's that? 1859 01:52:31,140 --> 01:52:36,270 No agenda show. And be like you should give it a listen bro. 1860 01:52:37,650 --> 01:52:38,130 That's you have 1861 01:52:38,130 --> 01:52:42,270 a flyer that you have in your truck. flyer flyer. 1862 01:52:43,139 --> 01:52:46,769 flyer flyers work for color brochure, perhaps? 1863 01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:50,400 I think a flyer flyer brochures are too formal. 1864 01:52:50,940 --> 01:52:54,390 Could you bring out the blade for me John's may get it. Okay. 1865 01:52:55,020 --> 01:52:58,740 Very good. Joseph Wagner, Herbert harms Christopher Rolfe 1866 01:52:58,740 --> 01:53:02,010 and Gordon Walton, please step forward. Gentlemen, you all have 1867 01:53:02,010 --> 01:53:04,110 contributed to the no agenda show the best podcast in the 1868 01:53:04,110 --> 01:53:07,500 university amount of $1,000 or more and therefore, you can now 1869 01:53:07,500 --> 01:53:10,740 carry with you for the rest of your life. The eloquent title of 1870 01:53:10,740 --> 01:53:13,470 Night of the no agenda roundtable so I hereby pronounce 1871 01:53:13,470 --> 01:53:17,910 the Sir Joseph Wagner Sir Herbert harms, Sir Christopher 1872 01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:23,130 Wolf. And Sir Gordon, will be Knight of the Golden order. Come 1873 01:53:23,130 --> 01:53:25,920 on over for your hookers and blow rent boys sharp may hookers 1874 01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:30,300 and beaches and booze. And all that stuff 1875 01:53:30,420 --> 01:53:31,770 that you got that well rehearsed. 1876 01:53:33,900 --> 01:53:37,590 It's wenches, and beer and hot pans and booze. And that's what 1877 01:53:37,590 --> 01:53:41,700 it is. Thank you. And we look at the list, John, it really we 1878 01:53:41,700 --> 01:53:43,770 have a growing number of nights and of course, the nights have 1879 01:53:43,770 --> 01:53:49,320 more responsibilities, then, you know, then than just supporting 1880 01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:52,890 the show financially. You know, that is a lifetime commitment to 1881 01:53:52,890 --> 01:53:58,410 propagating the formula and to waking up other slaves. And I 1882 01:53:58,410 --> 01:54:01,980 think a lot of, if not all of our Knights and Dames take this 1883 01:54:01,980 --> 01:54:05,670 extremely seriously, because we can't change it all by 1884 01:54:05,670 --> 01:54:07,800 ourselves. We need to know 1885 01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:09,300 in fact, the way we're going 1886 01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:13,410 to change anything that was not going to work but at least 1887 01:54:13,410 --> 01:54:13,770 you're making 1888 01:54:13,770 --> 01:54:17,730 people aware of the problems and we can you know, is a lot of 1889 01:54:17,730 --> 01:54:21,900 times it's just and you always have to be reminded because the 1890 01:54:21,900 --> 01:54:25,470 way the machine works, it's that if you don't and I'm not saying 1891 01:54:25,470 --> 01:54:27,750 you should you have to listen to this show, but if you stop 1892 01:54:27,750 --> 01:54:30,930 listening to this show, the machine will steamroll you 1893 01:54:31,740 --> 01:54:34,470 they'll suck you in and you next thing you know you'll be right 1894 01:54:34,470 --> 01:54:37,560 on the wrong side of the of the thought process pretty much 1895 01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:39,390 within a couple of weeks and 1896 01:54:39,390 --> 01:54:42,210 you have to even in your own environment. And be careful 1897 01:54:42,210 --> 01:54:46,860 because now this can lead to divorce. So news today in the 1898 01:54:46,860 --> 01:54:51,150 continuing war on sugar is and I'm laughing because it was all 1899 01:54:51,150 --> 01:54:53,820 like Oh yeah, it's good. And you know, Bloomberg Mayor Bloomberg, 1900 01:54:53,820 --> 01:54:57,990 New York, he's good. He's banning smoking everywhere. Damn 1901 01:54:57,990 --> 01:55:00,780 nasty smokers. Well, now of course Marcy has come out and 1902 01:55:00,780 --> 01:55:06,600 said, well, guess what, we're going to ban large drinks, large 1903 01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:10,590 sugary drinks, anything above 16 ounces will be illegal, go to 1904 01:55:10,590 --> 01:55:13,770 jail for selling that or even maybe walking around with it. 1905 01:55:14,070 --> 01:55:18,990 And and so it means Mickey this morning. She says, Well, this is 1906 01:55:18,990 --> 01:55:23,520 good as what? Yeah, because you know, idiots get fat from 1907 01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:26,700 drinking that. I said that's their own problem, too. What 1908 01:55:26,700 --> 01:55:30,060 next? What is going to be next? What are they going to take away 1909 01:55:30,060 --> 01:55:32,550 next? I'm sorry, you have the wrong shoes on. You can't wear 1910 01:55:32,550 --> 01:55:38,250 those shoes. You've got to stop this. We have to stop this. And 1911 01:55:38,250 --> 01:55:41,640 so if you don't, you know keep reminding yourself even in your 1912 01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:45,000 own community, your own environment as small as our two 1913 01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:48,690 person community here is you get steamrolled by the machine. 1914 01:55:48,690 --> 01:55:50,790 You're absolutely right, John, and the way they do it is 1915 01:55:50,790 --> 01:55:54,180 extremely effective. They have this ad where someone's drinking 1916 01:55:54,180 --> 01:55:55,260 a glass of fat. 1917 01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,710 No, it's this is a problem. This is this is never ending. In 1918 01:55:58,710 --> 01:56:02,130 fact, the either one of us could fall off the wagon. If it wasn't 1919 01:56:02,130 --> 01:56:05,790 for the other ones. Right. Thank you because we created a slight 1920 01:56:05,790 --> 01:56:09,150 competition between the two of us to keep digging, you know, I 1921 01:56:09,150 --> 01:56:11,850 would just love to see why you've done it done it to me. I 1922 01:56:11,850 --> 01:56:14,370 think I've hit you a couple of times. But you may be ahead on 1923 01:56:14,370 --> 01:56:17,970 this game, where you come out with some bogus information that 1924 01:56:17,970 --> 01:56:21,030 somehow you got suckered into, and you throw it out on the show 1925 01:56:21,030 --> 01:56:25,260 the other guy Hey, wait, that's bull crap. Crap. Oh, crap. Now, 1926 01:56:25,290 --> 01:56:28,080 by the way, there has been some good sugar news I should 1927 01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:28,530 mention, 1928 01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:32,490 well, not necessarily. He got suckered in. I know what you're 1929 01:56:32,490 --> 01:56:32,700 gonna 1930 01:56:32,700 --> 01:56:35,790 say the response to the petition from the corn fighters is yes, 1931 01:56:35,820 --> 01:56:40,140 yes. You know what? So this is the problem. This is why I'm a 1932 01:56:40,140 --> 01:56:44,640 government legislation analyst. The headline reads FDA rules 1933 01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:48,870 corn syrup can't change its name to corn sugar. That's the 1934 01:56:48,870 --> 01:56:54,150 headline. JC buzz killed Jr. Very intelligent individual. He 1935 01:56:54,150 --> 01:56:56,730 fell for it. What did he say to you? What were what were his 1936 01:56:56,730 --> 01:56:57,720 words? Well, I've 1937 01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:01,650 got the letter here. He says it looks as if they said you cannot 1938 01:57:01,650 --> 01:57:05,100 use Greg didn't say much other than that. He says the current 1939 01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:07,950 currently the address from the letter from the FDA the use of 1940 01:57:07,950 --> 01:57:13,080 the word corn sugar for FCS which suggests that FC F HFCs is 1941 01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:16,680 a solid, dried and crystallized sweetener obtained from corn 1942 01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:21,090 instead. HFCs is an aqueous solution derived from corn after 1943 01:57:21,090 --> 01:57:25,410 it and it goes on to the process and would not accurately 1944 01:57:25,410 --> 01:57:28,980 identify the product. As such, the term sugar would not be 1945 01:57:28,980 --> 01:57:31,290 consistent with the general principles of governing common 1946 01:57:31,290 --> 01:57:35,490 use of usual names under 21 CFR one Oh 2.5. 1947 01:57:36,179 --> 01:57:39,149 And that's where you tuned out. That's what everybody does. 1948 01:57:40,710 --> 01:57:42,330 So you went looked it up? And I 1949 01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:45,240 looked at the letter and I read the whole letter as a government 1950 01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:48,420 legislation analyst. And after this whole thing, where they 1951 01:57:48,420 --> 01:57:54,090 basically say no, you may not use a substitute high fructose 1952 01:57:54,090 --> 01:58:00,870 corn syrup with corn sugar. However it states FDA is 1953 01:58:00,870 --> 01:58:03,990 regulatory approach for the nomenclature of sugar and 1954 01:58:03,990 --> 01:58:08,010 syrup's is that sugar is a solid, dried and crystallized 1955 01:58:08,010 --> 01:58:12,870 food, whereas syrup is an aqueous solution or liquid food. 1956 01:58:13,530 --> 01:58:17,700 FDA is regulations permit the term sugar as part of the name 1957 01:58:17,700 --> 01:58:22,590 for food that is solid, dried and crystallized. So they're 1958 01:58:22,590 --> 01:58:28,110 giving them on a silver platter, the opportunity to crystallize 1959 01:58:28,110 --> 01:58:30,180 their Syrah and then call it sugar. 1960 01:58:30,389 --> 01:58:34,529 Good. Well, because they can't do that. Why not? It's not 1961 01:58:34,529 --> 01:58:35,129 doable. 1962 01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:38,610 You can't you can't crystallize syrup. 1963 01:58:38,969 --> 01:58:41,999 You can't crystallize. HFCs there's no way. 1964 01:58:42,870 --> 01:58:45,210 You're sure? Yeah, you're a scientist? 1965 01:58:45,809 --> 01:58:48,239 No, this is this is the problem to this stuff has it? This is 1966 01:58:48,239 --> 01:58:50,579 why you can use it to make chocolate. There's all kinds of 1967 01:58:50,579 --> 01:58:53,909 issues as chemically turns into this goo. It doesn't 1968 01:58:53,909 --> 01:58:56,939 crystallize. It's not just if there's no underlying 1969 01:58:56,939 --> 01:59:00,539 crystalline structure, the only way things can crystallize is 1970 01:59:00,539 --> 01:59:03,629 because there's crystals built into this chemical structure of 1971 01:59:03,629 --> 01:59:04,679 the product like salt. 1972 01:59:04,740 --> 01:59:07,140 So could they add some crystals into it? 1973 01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,620 No, it would be a gooey mess on top of the crystals. That's the 1974 01:59:10,620 --> 01:59:13,680 problem. They would have crystallized this stuff years 1975 01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:14,670 ago if they could. 1976 01:59:18,540 --> 01:59:20,460 So the what the FDA is 1977 01:59:20,460 --> 01:59:24,630 saying, you can't crystallize water, for example, you can't 1978 01:59:24,630 --> 01:59:28,350 crystallize oil. You can't crystallize gasoline, everything 1979 01:59:28,350 --> 01:59:30,750 you boil down doesn't crystallize. It's just the it 1980 01:59:30,750 --> 01:59:33,870 has to be have a crystal and structure underneath. Underlying 1981 01:59:33,870 --> 01:59:36,120 and there's no crystal instruction. It's just gobbly 1982 01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:36,330 goo 1983 01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:37,680 Can you make it a solid? 1984 01:59:38,730 --> 01:59:42,240 I I think he can probably make it some sort of maybe I don't 1985 01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:45,060 know I've never boiled it down to solid that would be horrible. 1986 01:59:45,150 --> 01:59:48,630 It would probably be some it'd be black. It'd be terrible 1987 01:59:48,630 --> 01:59:48,810 because 1988 01:59:48,810 --> 01:59:53,250 what they're basically saying is syrup is like a gooey syrup for 1989 01:59:53,250 --> 01:59:59,970 food that is liquid. And and sugar is something that is a 1990 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,990 Solid. And actually they say, oh crystallin they Well, no, they 1991 02:00:03,990 --> 02:00:06,780 say in what I'm reading the letter right here, they say one 1992 02:00:06,810 --> 02:00:09,690 in one part they say it has this is what sugar looks like, 1993 02:00:09,690 --> 02:00:11,910 here it is the regulatory approach or the nomenclature, 1994 02:00:11,910 --> 02:00:15,210 sugar instruction, is that sugar is a solid, dried and 1995 02:00:15,210 --> 02:00:20,370 crystallized food. I'm reading the letter to where whereas 1996 02:00:20,370 --> 02:00:27,690 syrup is an aqueous solution, or liquid food. I don't 1997 02:00:27,690 --> 02:00:29,040 think we've seen the last of this. 1998 02:00:29,430 --> 02:00:35,130 Well, I think you're being harsh on JC without real foundational. 1999 02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:38,850 Okay, I'll give you that. I'll take it back a little, a little 2000 02:00:38,850 --> 02:00:42,540 only because I'm, I think I think that this however, they 2001 02:00:42,540 --> 02:00:46,110 put in here and they get into the FDA approach is consistent 2002 02:00:46,110 --> 02:00:49,560 with the common understanding of sure sugar and syrup as 2003 02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:53,580 referenced in a dictionary. I think that's waft the language. 2004 02:00:53,580 --> 02:00:58,020 And I think that they're setting something up for some possible 2005 02:00:58,050 --> 02:01:02,010 future change in the structure of corn syrup. I could be wrong. 2006 02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:05,070 In fact, I'm probably wrong. It felt to me like why would you 2007 02:01:05,070 --> 02:01:05,910 put that in there? 2008 02:01:07,290 --> 02:01:10,980 Why would maybe the guy doesn't like this stuff. What I got the 2009 02:01:10,980 --> 02:01:14,340 kid The thing that impressed me about this wasn't the what they 2010 02:01:14,340 --> 02:01:16,260 did, because as far as I'm concerned, they're still going 2011 02:01:16,260 --> 02:01:19,410 to, at some point in the future, they're going to they're going 2012 02:01:19,410 --> 02:01:22,200 to get things read to find out to just get rid of that if this 2013 02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:26,550 is one guy in the FDA College Park, Maryland, you know, he's 2014 02:01:26,550 --> 02:01:28,260 going to he's not going to be working there for the rest of 2015 02:01:28,260 --> 02:01:33,300 his life. No, no, but my kick was this was supposedly based on 2016 02:01:33,300 --> 02:01:39,960 a public petition. And the petition was like, it was excuse 2017 02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:42,540 me, supposedly a consumer petition with all this stuff, 2018 02:01:42,540 --> 02:01:45,150 like a second with regard to your request to remain the 2019 02:01:45,150 --> 02:01:48,930 standard identity of dextrose monohydrate. Right, to eliminate 2020 02:01:48,930 --> 02:01:51,570 corn sugar as an alternative name, which is another name they 2021 02:01:51,570 --> 02:01:55,290 want to use, by the way, dextrose instead of I think 2022 02:01:55,710 --> 02:01:58,530 they're I think they're saying you can use that right you can 2023 02:01:58,530 --> 02:01:59,310 use no no, no, 2024 02:01:59,310 --> 02:02:04,890 they said no. No, my what I was gonna say is that my I got the 2025 02:02:04,890 --> 02:02:08,220 biggest kick out of this suppose it petition. This petition is 2026 02:02:08,220 --> 02:02:12,060 bullcrap. There's no petition, it was a bunch of guys in the 2027 02:02:12,060 --> 02:02:15,090 sugar corn lobby, sign in, you know, somebody wrote it from a 2028 02:02:15,090 --> 02:02:18,330 public relations perspective, and then a bunch of Jokers 2029 02:02:18,330 --> 02:02:22,380 signed it. And then they sent it to the FDA, you know, demanding 2030 02:02:22,380 --> 02:02:24,360 that they change these definitions, even though this 2031 02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:27,240 whole thing was a front. It was a, which I think is the reason 2032 02:02:27,240 --> 02:02:29,940 this thing came about because this petition was obviously a 2033 02:02:29,940 --> 02:02:33,120 fraud as a petition is not a true petition. You don't think 2034 02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:36,870 the public is going out there demanding that they change high 2035 02:02:36,870 --> 02:02:42,630 fructose corn syrup to sugar? No. Anyway, 2036 02:02:43,230 --> 02:02:47,580 I need to I need to get into this bath salts zombie thing, 2037 02:02:47,790 --> 02:02:54,270 which we mentioned at the very end of Thursday's program. And 2038 02:02:54,300 --> 02:02:58,080 of course, everyone I was seeing the this is a multiple parter. 2039 02:02:58,110 --> 02:03:01,050 There's a whole bunch of things going on with this. And I like 2040 02:03:01,050 --> 02:03:05,940 it because Erin Burnett is is propagating her formula. This 2041 02:03:05,940 --> 02:03:09,870 start off and we all know you know, some guy when crazy start 2042 02:03:09,870 --> 02:03:13,320 to chew another guy's face and then the cops didn't tase him, 2043 02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:16,710 they killed him and they had to shoot him multiple times. So the 2044 02:03:16,710 --> 02:03:20,910 way this has been turned into bath salts, which I want to 2045 02:03:20,940 --> 02:03:24,810 discuss is very interesting because the first local reports 2046 02:03:24,810 --> 02:03:30,030 local channel seven never made mention of Bath Salts. As for a 2047 02:03:30,030 --> 02:03:30,510 reason 2048 02:03:30,510 --> 02:03:34,320 police have speculated its drugs and doctors at Jackson Memorial 2049 02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:35,340 Hospital say 2050 02:03:35,519 --> 02:03:40,019 anything is possible. I've seen it with crack cocaine. And I've 2051 02:03:40,019 --> 02:03:44,609 seen it with spice. where patients at that time they're 2052 02:03:44,609 --> 02:03:48,419 either severely paranoid, or in another state of mind. 2053 02:03:48,450 --> 02:03:51,960 Okay, no mention of bath salts or anything like that. Then we 2054 02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:53,580 have the local CBS station 2055 02:03:53,610 --> 02:03:57,870 sir believes the man clearly clearly was on some very, very 2056 02:03:57,870 --> 02:04:01,530 powerful drugs. That's right, Cynthia, the Fraternal Order of 2057 02:04:01,530 --> 02:04:05,580 Police president tells me this prop of LSD is a major threat to 2058 02:04:05,580 --> 02:04:08,970 police officers as well as LSD is what she's saying here the 2059 02:04:08,970 --> 02:04:12,810 rest of us he says it turns normal people into monsters that 2060 02:04:12,810 --> 02:04:14,160 possess this want to 2061 02:04:14,879 --> 02:04:16,649 LSD ever do that? 2062 02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:19,530 Well, no, no. This is what their report this is really key 2063 02:04:19,530 --> 02:04:22,380 because this changed over the course of two and a half days. 2064 02:04:22,469 --> 02:04:24,659 Yeah, there yeah, there is morphing as well. 2065 02:04:25,650 --> 02:04:28,950 So here's you heard the first one that was crack cocaine. Now 2066 02:04:28,950 --> 02:04:31,530 it's LSD is a powerful LSD, human 2067 02:04:31,530 --> 02:04:34,950 strength and no ability to feel pain. He believes that's what 2068 02:04:34,950 --> 02:04:38,610 was behind the incident that unfolded here Saturday in broad 2069 02:04:38,610 --> 02:04:40,890 daylight just off the MacArthur causeway. 2070 02:04:40,950 --> 02:04:43,740 When the police approached him, he turned around and growl and 2071 02:04:43,740 --> 02:04:46,830 kept attacking the victim on the floor. That's when he says the 2072 02:04:46,830 --> 02:04:50,910 officer shot him. The initial shots had no effect. He had to 2073 02:04:50,910 --> 02:04:52,800 repeatedly shoot him about four times. 2074 02:04:53,129 --> 02:04:57,479 This by the way, what it really is the guys on the ground, he's 2075 02:04:57,479 --> 02:05:00,149 chewing the other guy's face and you shoot him. There's no How 2076 02:05:00,149 --> 02:05:04,109 about tase I'm gonna pull him off. And you cops are what are 2077 02:05:04,109 --> 02:05:07,859 you know, we shot him he didn't and then he just kept on eatin. 2078 02:05:07,859 --> 02:05:10,679 So we shot him again and again and again. And where were you 2079 02:05:10,679 --> 02:05:14,099 shooting him in the leg in the back in the head? I mean, what 2080 02:05:14,099 --> 02:05:16,799 were you doing? So this is what leads up to the zombie meme, 2081 02:05:16,799 --> 02:05:17,789 which is very interesting. 2082 02:05:17,940 --> 02:05:18,660 Man collapse 2083 02:05:18,690 --> 02:05:21,960 the naked attacker now dead on the sidewalk. There he is on the 2084 02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:25,770 left. His now faceless victim lay on the ground next to him 2085 02:05:25,860 --> 02:05:28,800 likely writhing in pain as sources writhing 2086 02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:33,060 not writhing but you misread it bitch. You said ribbon. No 2087 02:05:33,060 --> 02:05:33,450 longer 2088 02:05:33,450 --> 02:05:34,440 had eyes or 2089 02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:38,730 nose. I can only imagine by talking to the officer. I see 2090 02:05:38,730 --> 02:05:41,340 that he's totally traumatized. It was like something out of a 2091 02:05:41,340 --> 02:05:42,780 horror movie. Oh, well, let's 2092 02:05:42,780 --> 02:05:45,720 propagate the mean by the law says this is the worst out of 2093 02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:49,680 about four similar cases in Dade County to happen recently. And 2094 02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:53,010 other incidents that people have admitted to taking a new strain 2095 02:05:53,010 --> 02:05:55,200 of what they're calling bad LSD, 2096 02:05:55,230 --> 02:06:00,570 bad LSD. It's LSD that keeps a crack cocaine. Now it's LSD, 2097 02:06:00,570 --> 02:06:02,220 oil. I'm sorry. It's bad LSD. 2098 02:06:02,250 --> 02:06:07,650 Their body temperature reaches such a high degree that they 2099 02:06:07,650 --> 02:06:09,750 have to take all their clothes off because they're basically 2100 02:06:09,750 --> 02:06:11,700 melting from the inside. He says 2101 02:06:11,700 --> 02:06:12,540 that was a case just 2102 02:06:12,690 --> 02:06:14,970 making this stuff up as they go along. Yeah. 2103 02:06:14,970 --> 02:06:17,790 Oh, yeah. But And remember, this is local news, which is, you 2104 02:06:17,790 --> 02:06:20,580 know, these are the people who are actually on the scene before 2105 02:06:20,580 --> 02:06:22,620 it gets to the networks where it starts to morph the 2106 02:06:22,620 --> 02:06:26,430 way on Bayshore drive. That was in March when a bloody naked man 2107 02:06:26,430 --> 02:06:29,790 who had been hit by a cab growl that police and showed 2108 02:06:29,850 --> 02:06:33,660 superhuman strength when they tried to help them more than 2109 02:06:33,660 --> 02:06:37,950 10 or 15 officers on the scene. And even after they taste her 2110 02:06:37,950 --> 02:06:40,470 the man two or three times he was still able to take a baton 2111 02:06:40,470 --> 02:06:43,800 away from one of our officers and severely damage her arm. 2112 02:06:44,010 --> 02:06:48,990 So now the story goes, goes nationwide. And it gets to CNN 2113 02:06:48,990 --> 02:06:51,720 and of course the minute it gets to CNN where no one's watching, 2114 02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:55,500 they just get through. Okay, we've got that because we 2115 02:06:55,500 --> 02:06:57,750 already know what this is, but we're going to pretend we don't 2116 02:06:57,750 --> 02:07:02,430 know what it is yet. So now we're going to say it's LSD. 2117 02:07:02,430 --> 02:07:05,370 It's cocaine. No, it's bath salts 2118 02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:09,480 story out front tonight drugs known as bath salts being blamed 2119 02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:11,580 for a gruesome scene in Miami. 2120 02:07:11,850 --> 02:07:14,880 This is a nick this by the way was a report from a day and a 2121 02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:15,360 half ago 2122 02:07:15,390 --> 02:07:18,990 man it was shot dead on Saturday by police because he was 2123 02:07:19,290 --> 02:07:21,780 knocking off another man space 2124 02:07:21,930 --> 02:07:25,410 she has to do all she has to go like knowing meanwhile you know 2125 02:07:25,410 --> 02:07:29,160 she doesn't make that face when when children are killed or 2126 02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:31,590 people are drone by the President. Oh, this is this is 2127 02:07:31,590 --> 02:07:33,930 horrible. Now this is horrible. 2128 02:07:34,350 --> 02:07:37,770 Obviously that douchebag sounds horrific and it is I want to 2129 02:07:37,770 --> 02:07:40,170 warn you that the pictures we're about to show you are by 2130 02:07:40,170 --> 02:07:42,570 the way the pictures are not horrific because everything's 2131 02:07:42,570 --> 02:07:46,620 blocked out. You see a guy's butt with a brown blurry spot on 2132 02:07:46,620 --> 02:07:46,800 it. 2133 02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:50,970 Anyone who was horrific very disturbing. 31 year old Rudy 2134 02:07:50,970 --> 02:07:54,990 Eugene was described to be in a zombie like state well thank 2135 02:07:54,990 --> 02:07:58,290 you for introducing it Aaron Thank you zombie we got that was 2136 02:07:58,290 --> 02:07:58,830 caught by 2137 02:07:58,830 --> 02:08:02,460 police. Our man No, they didn't catch him. Though. Aguilar, 2138 02:08:02,460 --> 02:08:05,370 president of the Miami Fraternal Order of Police suspects Eugene 2139 02:08:05,370 --> 02:08:08,280 was under the influence of so called bath salts, which are 2140 02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:11,340 sold as cocaine substitutes or synthetic LSD. 2141 02:08:11,370 --> 02:08:17,220 Oh one now now it's changed Wait a minute bow bath salts are sold 2142 02:08:17,220 --> 02:08:20,340 and this is not this is patently untrue because I'm gonna tell 2143 02:08:20,340 --> 02:08:23,940 you what it is in a minute. And now she's saying bath salts 2144 02:08:23,940 --> 02:08:27,180 which is sold as synthetic cocaine or LSD or really Erin 2145 02:08:27,180 --> 02:08:28,620 let's talk to an expert 2146 02:08:28,650 --> 02:08:32,280 when he was found what he had done to this man's face. victim 2147 02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:35,490 was 65 years old truly horrific. Apparently all that's left is 2148 02:08:35,490 --> 02:08:40,530 his goatee. His eyeballs were gone in space. It is it is 2149 02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:43,650 unbelievable. Get to the edge of trial. Sophia is a psychiatrist. 2150 02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:44,100 Oh, here's 2151 02:08:44,100 --> 02:08:47,040 an expert now listen to the expert. This is the best at the 2152 02:08:47,040 --> 02:08:47,730 Los Angeles 2153 02:08:47,730 --> 02:08:50,550 County Department of Children and Family Services. And he's 2154 02:08:50,550 --> 02:08:53,640 out front now. Dr. Sophie, have you ever heard of anything like 2155 02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:57,810 this? I mean, it's awful to even talk about some of the the 2156 02:08:57,840 --> 02:09:01,140 things I just said that this man did to his victims face 2157 02:09:02,940 --> 02:09:05,700 Absolutely, there are many reactions that your brain can 2158 02:09:05,700 --> 02:09:08,850 have when you're putting in a substance such as this these are 2159 02:09:08,850 --> 02:09:12,630 very cocaine like substances that will have a very aggressive 2160 02:09:12,630 --> 02:09:15,420 reaction within your brain and the behavior that comes out of 2161 02:09:15,420 --> 02:09:18,600 that could be anything from aggression to ripping off 2162 02:09:18,600 --> 02:09:19,950 basically someone's face 2163 02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:25,440 it's in the book of knowledge you do this cocaine and then you 2164 02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:26,970 know you could rip someone's face off 2165 02:09:26,970 --> 02:09:29,970 severe severe reactions and they're not able to be tested 2166 02:09:29,970 --> 02:09:30,690 these drugs so 2167 02:09:30,750 --> 02:09:33,930 oh what wait a minute you can't test them 2168 02:09:34,170 --> 02:09:37,020 we're putting in substances into our face that we put into our 2169 02:09:37,020 --> 02:09:39,780 bodies oh he messed up there we don't know what is gonna happen 2170 02:09:39,780 --> 02:09:40,440 when we do that. 2171 02:09:40,530 --> 02:09:43,680 So when when we use the name bath salts which I guess is the 2172 02:09:43,680 --> 02:09:47,310 street name. You said a little bit cocaine like I mean what 2173 02:09:47,310 --> 02:09:50,490 what what would be in it? I mean, does it vary every single 2174 02:09:50,520 --> 02:09:53,910 concoction or what what's really in quote unquote bath salts? 2175 02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:57,810 Well, that's a that's that's a really great question because 2176 02:09:57,810 --> 02:09:58,230 No, 2177 02:09:58,230 --> 02:10:01,320 it's not. Oh, it's not a great Questions. The bottom 2178 02:10:01,320 --> 02:10:04,590 line is these are not substances that have been properly studied. 2179 02:10:04,620 --> 02:10:07,230 And so we don't really know what's in them, we just see the 2180 02:10:07,230 --> 02:10:10,770 kinds of reactions and can kind of guess what chemicals in the 2181 02:10:10,770 --> 02:10:14,550 brain they're reacting with. And then hence the behavior. So 2182 02:10:14,550 --> 02:10:17,940 that's why the studies need to be done. And then we can we can 2183 02:10:17,940 --> 02:10:21,330 make the testing that needs to be in place to be able to see if 2184 02:10:21,330 --> 02:10:24,000 people have taken these or not when they're behaving this way 2185 02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:25,740 because bullshit. 2186 02:10:25,860 --> 02:10:29,850 Okay, so at this point, I can't take it anymore. Bath, it's a 2187 02:10:30,120 --> 02:10:32,070 bath salts are well known. 2188 02:10:32,340 --> 02:10:39,810 Yeah, MD MV, exactly. Ethylene deoxy Pro, Valeria Pro, Valerian 2189 02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:45,480 first developed a 1969. They've been around forever, also known 2190 02:10:45,480 --> 02:10:52,080 as MDP K, MTV, magic, Maddie black Rob super CO, P V. P IV, 2191 02:10:52,290 --> 02:10:55,170 and then they turn them into bath salt. And you can make this 2192 02:10:55,170 --> 02:10:59,250 stuff at home apparently, John. That's your cue to tell me how 2193 02:10:59,250 --> 02:11:01,980 to do it. Because I can't wait. Do you do that? Adam? I don't 2194 02:11:01,980 --> 02:11:05,970 know. But what I do know is that there are two forces at play 2195 02:11:05,970 --> 02:11:10,530 here. One is the pharmaceutical industry. Because what this is 2196 02:11:10,530 --> 02:11:14,610 really like and it go if you if you really Google around and 2197 02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:19,770 blots of people are doing these bath salts. It is more like a 2198 02:11:19,770 --> 02:11:23,730 souped up Adderall. In fact, I believe, and I'm hoping you 2199 02:11:23,730 --> 02:11:26,460 might be able to help, John, that the if you look at the 2200 02:11:26,460 --> 02:11:32,310 actual structure of MDPV, it is more like Adderall than LSD or 2201 02:11:32,340 --> 02:11:35,820 crack cocaine. And the pharmaceutical industry, they 2202 02:11:35,820 --> 02:11:40,320 cannot have you making your Adderall at home. They need to 2203 02:11:40,320 --> 02:11:44,430 sell you the drugs. This is why the bath salts have got to go. 2204 02:11:44,700 --> 02:11:49,320 So you know, now, if you take the bath salt, you turn into a 2205 02:11:49,320 --> 02:11:52,830 zombie. And you eat people's faces off 2206 02:11:52,980 --> 02:11:58,380 if you take Pyro of Pyro velour own? Yeah, that's what it is. 2207 02:11:58,410 --> 02:12:02,010 Pyro Pyro valorant, but it's Adderall. It's basically 2208 02:12:02,010 --> 02:12:06,450 Adderall. Well, I'm I haven't seen it. But you got me on that. 2209 02:12:06,480 --> 02:12:08,370 Okay, well, I can do it. And this 2210 02:12:08,370 --> 02:12:11,250 is just the street knowledge. Everywhere you look, people are 2211 02:12:11,250 --> 02:12:14,880 saying, Yeah, you know, I I'd rather I'd rather take Adderall 2212 02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:17,280 because I can dose a little better. But if I can't get any, 2213 02:12:17,280 --> 02:12:19,350 then you know, I'll I'll take some Adderall 2214 02:12:19,350 --> 02:12:22,590 is one of the most is the fact we did this on that generation X 2215 02:12:22,590 --> 02:12:27,840 ray show that you hate. Hated recreational drug use amongst 2216 02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:32,130 the millennials. And Adderall is the drug of choice for 2217 02:12:32,130 --> 02:12:34,710 everything. They use it for reading, they use all kinds of 2218 02:12:34,710 --> 02:12:35,130 things. 2219 02:12:35,160 --> 02:12:38,700 Yeah, but But now, you know, the Adderall is, you know, this is a 2220 02:12:38,700 --> 02:12:45,450 drug war. But even worse, it's a freakin commercial. For Brad 2221 02:12:45,450 --> 02:12:45,810 Pitt's 2222 02:12:45,810 --> 02:12:47,670 new movie, which is 2223 02:12:47,670 --> 02:12:50,190 what World War Z. 2224 02:12:52,620 --> 02:12:55,620 This is the latest disclosure and a report from National Civil 2225 02:12:55,620 --> 02:12:57,180 Defence Headquarters in Washington. 2226 02:12:58,770 --> 02:13:03,480 I'll take your questions. Is it a virus? We don't know? How does 2227 02:13:03,480 --> 02:13:09,720 it spread that airborne possibility? Is this national 2228 02:13:09,720 --> 02:13:19,620 health hazard or military? Are these people alive or dead? We 2229 02:13:19,620 --> 02:13:22,140 don't know. I'm a survivor living in New York City. 2230 02:13:25,410 --> 02:13:28,770 Now it just goes on and on. So Brad Pitt is coming out with a 2231 02:13:28,770 --> 02:13:34,500 huge blockbuster movie called WWE worldwide zombie. And it is 2232 02:13:34,890 --> 02:13:38,580 essentially he's the United Nations guy who finds out about 2233 02:13:38,580 --> 02:13:42,390 this. We don't know what causes it is probably the bath salts. 2234 02:13:43,530 --> 02:13:47,820 And people turn into zombies dead people come alive. And they 2235 02:13:47,820 --> 02:13:51,720 they blow they wind up I think incinerating half the earth to 2236 02:13:51,750 --> 02:13:55,590 get rid of the zombie problem. So you know, now the commercial 2237 02:13:55,590 --> 02:13:59,820 interests are in weed. Everyone's saying zombie zombie 2238 02:13:59,820 --> 02:14:03,090 zombie zombie? I would like to go back to the Red Book. And 2239 02:14:03,090 --> 02:14:06,720 would you please tell me who predicted that zombies would be 2240 02:14:06,720 --> 02:14:07,140 the big? 2241 02:14:07,559 --> 02:14:09,329 The old red book? Yeah, but 2242 02:14:09,330 --> 02:14:13,050 it's in the book, isn't it? I probably did zombies. 2243 02:14:13,290 --> 02:14:15,870 Yeah. You said Yeah. There was about a year and a half ago, two 2244 02:14:15,870 --> 02:14:20,220 years ago, perhaps where you had predicted that zombies are going 2245 02:14:20,220 --> 02:14:26,040 to be a big deal. For the next, you know, in the upcoming years. 2246 02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:28,560 Yeah, it's gonna be like the magic. Yep. So yeah. 2247 02:14:28,620 --> 02:14:31,590 So let's go to last night's report. And then I have one 2248 02:14:31,590 --> 02:14:34,710 final one from Canadia because this is a worldwide zombie 2249 02:14:34,710 --> 02:14:38,010 problem. You see, we all have to be afraid of the zombies. Erin 2250 02:14:38,010 --> 02:14:43,800 Burnett. I mean, I used to be so turned on by her and now she 2251 02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:50,340 just rises bile in my throat. She's such a stooge. The 2252 02:14:50,340 --> 02:14:50,760 gruesome 2253 02:14:50,760 --> 02:14:54,840 face eating attack in Miami could be part of a trend. It's a 2254 02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:55,830 trend. 2255 02:14:56,070 --> 02:15:00,840 Trend. It's a trend is one story is it all Have a sudden is a 2256 02:15:00,840 --> 02:15:02,700 trend what evidence is there for? 2257 02:15:02,820 --> 02:15:04,410 What are you going to do after the show John? 2258 02:15:05,010 --> 02:15:06,270 I'm gonna go by faith. 2259 02:15:07,620 --> 02:15:10,590 I'm gonna bite me some face do ya hear all the all the cool 2260 02:15:10,590 --> 02:15:12,990 kids are doing it it's a trend an example 2261 02:15:12,990 --> 02:15:16,350 of something larger and much more dangerous. Miami Police say 2262 02:15:16,350 --> 02:15:19,050 they've seen similar cases recently of people behaving 2263 02:15:19,050 --> 02:15:22,200 strangely and showing what appears to be superhuman 2264 02:15:22,200 --> 02:15:22,740 strength 2265 02:15:22,950 --> 02:15:26,160 and the superhuman strength thing, which is all part of Brad 2266 02:15:26,160 --> 02:15:26,820 Pitt's movie. 2267 02:15:27,120 --> 02:15:30,690 Over the weekend really Eugene attacked a 65 year old homeless 2268 02:15:30,690 --> 02:15:34,050 man showing off most of his face. Please say it was probably 2269 02:15:34,050 --> 02:15:36,030 high on a drug known as bath salts 2270 02:15:36,059 --> 02:15:38,639 ah, and we have to warn you that we don't know what it is. Oh 2271 02:15:38,639 --> 02:15:40,529 very very graphic images, pictures 2272 02:15:40,530 --> 02:15:44,670 and tonight they are disturbing. Police say Eugene was naked that 2273 02:15:44,670 --> 02:15:48,990 he was growling like an animal. He was shot and killed by police 2274 02:15:48,990 --> 02:15:52,260 when he refused to stop but it took multiple shots. And this is 2275 02:15:52,260 --> 02:15:55,440 the to to the head means we've got the growling. We've got the 2276 02:15:55,440 --> 02:16:00,180 naked you got the eating flesh, eating face eating eyeballs, and 2277 02:16:00,180 --> 02:16:02,910 you and you can't just kill a zombie with one shot. We all 2278 02:16:02,910 --> 02:16:06,780 know that. This is in the zombie handbook the CDC warned us about 2279 02:16:06,780 --> 02:16:07,320 its Lindy 2280 02:16:07,320 --> 02:16:10,590 leading to the descriptions of what seems to be superhuman 2281 02:16:10,590 --> 02:16:13,500 strength. From tonight Armando Aguilar, president of the 2282 02:16:13,500 --> 02:16:17,040 Miami's fraternal of police to ask you a few questions in a 2283 02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:17,910 moment, sir. But first, 2284 02:16:18,059 --> 02:16:19,529 let's go to the expert first. Elizabeth 2285 02:16:19,530 --> 02:16:21,750 Cohen is here our senior correspondent who has been 2286 02:16:21,750 --> 02:16:24,480 looking into the bizarre effects of bath salts and Elizabeth let 2287 02:16:24,480 --> 02:16:27,360 me just ask you what what are bath salts if you explain 2288 02:16:27,360 --> 02:16:29,850 exactly what they are, what are they in? And can they can they 2289 02:16:29,850 --> 02:16:32,370 do things like appeared to happen here where this man was 2290 02:16:32,370 --> 02:16:34,170 literally growling, acting like a dog? 2291 02:16:34,619 --> 02:16:37,079 Right, Aaron, first of all bath salts have absolutely nothing to 2292 02:16:37,079 --> 02:16:40,319 do with the bath. They are not actual bath salts. It's just the 2293 02:16:40,319 --> 02:16:43,919 name that they were given. And they're amphetamines, it's often 2294 02:16:43,949 --> 02:16:45,239 one of many different. 2295 02:16:45,570 --> 02:16:50,160 She's lying again. It's not it's not an amphetamine, it's not an 2296 02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:50,700 amphetamine, 2297 02:16:50,850 --> 02:16:53,340 once you say it was an amphetamine, they're 2298 02:16:53,369 --> 02:16:54,659 amphetamines. 2299 02:16:55,559 --> 02:16:58,829 It's one of these people where they come off with this crap 2300 02:16:58,829 --> 02:16:59,009 because 2301 02:16:59,010 --> 02:17:02,550 they don't want they want you to think of moving 2302 02:17:03,660 --> 02:17:06,810 drugs. These are chemicals that people make sometimes in their 2303 02:17:06,810 --> 02:17:09,750 own homes. These are man made sort of homemade kind of 2304 02:17:09,750 --> 02:17:13,290 recipes. And they're sold sometimes in places like gas 2305 02:17:13,290 --> 02:17:15,810 stations, it actually used to be legal because they were these 2306 02:17:15,810 --> 02:17:16,710 new chemicals. Yeah, 2307 02:17:16,710 --> 02:17:20,940 because it's from 1969. So they have all the information, but 2308 02:17:20,940 --> 02:17:22,080 they're lying about it. 2309 02:17:22,110 --> 02:17:26,310 Now. They are illegal. Now, not everyone who uses bath salts is 2310 02:17:26,310 --> 02:17:30,210 going to have this. This effect. You know, that's obvious, but it 2311 02:17:30,210 --> 02:17:32,670 can have this effect. How was that obvious? There's several 2312 02:17:32,670 --> 02:17:36,060 reasons. It's the stimulant so it's kind of like meth, for 2313 02:17:36,060 --> 02:17:39,450 example. It's kind of like ecstasy. And so several things 2314 02:17:39,450 --> 02:17:40,170 are the ones. 2315 02:17:40,590 --> 02:17:44,640 It's like ecstasy. It's like meth and ecstasy. How does that 2316 02:17:44,640 --> 02:17:45,660 work? Yeah, well, you 2317 02:17:45,660 --> 02:17:48,060 know, it's like ecstasy. It's really bad. I mean, how many 2318 02:17:48,060 --> 02:17:51,690 people raise your hand if you've taken some E and you ate 2319 02:17:51,690 --> 02:17:57,000 someone's face? Ah, oh. Anyway, so that just goes on and on. And 2320 02:17:57,000 --> 02:18:01,380 then Canadia comes in. And we just see if I can move this 2321 02:18:01,380 --> 02:18:03,480 along a little bit. Oh, that's only it's a short one. Okay. 2322 02:18:03,810 --> 02:18:05,820 Just gotta play the Canadian clip CBC 2323 02:18:05,879 --> 02:18:10,889 Tom. Amanda, it's a drug few know much about oh, 2324 02:18:12,600 --> 02:18:16,080 it's been around since 1969. We know the chemistry, the 2325 02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:20,910 chemistry of it. We know all of the code names for it now but 2326 02:18:20,910 --> 02:18:24,180 they haven't been or it's been it was taken out of obscurity in 2327 02:18:24,180 --> 02:18:27,210 2004. So it's been around for at least eight years in the public 2328 02:18:27,210 --> 02:18:30,360 consciousness so how do we know little about it? Because I'm 2329 02:18:30,360 --> 02:18:32,970 looking at the wiki page on this stuff and it's got like all 2330 02:18:32,970 --> 02:18:36,000 these psychological effects and all the rest of it it's all 2331 02:18:36,000 --> 02:18:36,510 listed 2332 02:18:36,540 --> 02:18:39,990 Yeah, no, but it's It's The Real News outfit. This guy is great 2333 02:18:39,990 --> 02:18:40,080 but 2334 02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:43,710 it's it begins to catch on. Officials are racing to learn 2335 02:18:43,710 --> 02:18:45,480 more Yeah, what you name 2336 02:18:50,400 --> 02:18:55,650 have some YouTube clips of kids who are on on bath salts is 2337 02:18:55,650 --> 02:18:56,190 great. 2338 02:18:57,029 --> 02:19:06,989 Officials are racing to learn more what you name a bath. This 2339 02:19:07,019 --> 02:19:13,259 is the effect of so called bath salts. So is this and this 2340 02:19:13,469 --> 02:19:18,269 benign by name deadly by nature until recently a problem We've 2341 02:19:18,269 --> 02:19:21,689 only heard about in the US Oh, but it's been creeping into 2342 02:19:21,689 --> 02:19:22,379 Canada it's 2343 02:19:22,380 --> 02:19:25,800 creeping into Canada is nothing like an alliteration. It's been 2344 02:19:25,800 --> 02:19:27,900 creeping in Canada to 2345 02:19:28,530 --> 02:19:30,900 to places like New Glasgow Nova Scotia. 2346 02:19:30,930 --> 02:19:34,020 I felt like I wanted to kill me or I wanted to kill somebody 2347 02:19:34,020 --> 02:19:35,520 else. Were this recovering 2348 02:19:35,520 --> 02:19:39,330 addict. We'll call him John. Remember, it's it's wicked grip. 2349 02:19:39,600 --> 02:19:42,060 It's a wicked grip. Now he's gonna know the explanation of 2350 02:19:42,060 --> 02:19:44,370 what it really is, is coming up. It's a riveting 2351 02:19:44,400 --> 02:19:49,020 eight gay straight. With no sleep. That's when you come to 2352 02:19:49,020 --> 02:19:51,690 realize the drug. The drugs got you. 2353 02:19:52,140 --> 02:19:55,470 Name for its likeness to household bath salts. It's a 2354 02:19:55,470 --> 02:19:59,160 synthetic drugs so powerful. It can lead to extraordinary 2355 02:19:59,160 --> 02:20:03,660 hallucinations. paranoia, violent behavior and suicide. 2356 02:20:03,660 --> 02:20:06,750 This sounds like something I want to take the experts say I 2357 02:20:06,780 --> 02:20:10,260 think cocaine times 10 Oh, okay. 2358 02:20:11,849 --> 02:20:13,199 Hence the name super coke. 2359 02:20:14,189 --> 02:20:22,529 Cocaine times 10 So I really so much lying blatant lying going 2360 02:20:22,529 --> 02:20:26,159 on, yet perfect. I mean that I love how they have they've 2361 02:20:26,159 --> 02:20:30,329 crossed promoted a World War Z. I think that's brilliant. Brad 2362 02:20:30,329 --> 02:20:32,519 Pitt must be just just just 2363 02:20:33,180 --> 02:20:34,890 he's opening new bank accounts. 2364 02:20:36,660 --> 02:20:40,110 Angelina Jolie is shopping for more kids like, yeah, we can 2365 02:20:40,110 --> 02:20:44,550 afford more of these. This is fantastic. It's a bonanza, 2366 02:20:45,480 --> 02:20:46,680 absolute bonanza. 2367 02:20:47,130 --> 02:20:51,090 All right. Yeah, I think that's enough of that. So yeah. Let's 2368 02:20:51,090 --> 02:20:53,790 discuss what's happening to Julian Assange. 2369 02:20:54,930 --> 02:20:55,830 Really? 2370 02:20:56,670 --> 02:21:02,460 So yeah, because of this clip, Hillary in Sweden. Oh, 2371 02:21:02,790 --> 02:21:05,310 can you talk about the significance of Hillary Clinton, 2372 02:21:05,340 --> 02:21:08,820 the Secretary of State going to Sweden, it's the first time in a 2373 02:21:08,820 --> 02:21:13,050 very long time that a US Secretary of State is going to 2374 02:21:13,050 --> 02:21:16,440 Sweden. First it was announced the High Court would be making 2375 02:21:16,440 --> 02:21:22,140 its decision today, Glenn. And then Sweden tweeted out that 2376 02:21:22,140 --> 02:21:24,300 Hillary Clinton would be coming there on Sunday. 2377 02:21:25,380 --> 02:21:29,670 Right. I mean, one of the causes for concern is that there's been 2378 02:21:29,670 --> 02:21:34,470 a flurry of activity recently, with FBI agents harassing people 2379 02:21:34,470 --> 02:21:38,190 who are alleged to have some communication or contact or 2380 02:21:38,190 --> 02:21:42,870 association with WikiLeaks, a French citizen and an Icelandic 2381 02:21:42,870 --> 02:21:45,270 citizen, both in the past couple of weeks have been very 2382 02:21:45,270 --> 02:21:48,480 aggressively accosted by FBI agents on foreign soil. And now 2383 02:21:48,480 --> 02:21:51,900 you have these what looks to be high level meetings between, you 2384 02:21:51,900 --> 02:21:54,510 know, the State Department, the Secretary of State and Swedish 2385 02:21:54,510 --> 02:21:58,260 officials, you know, there, there really is not much of a 2386 02:21:58,260 --> 02:22:01,530 secret that the Obama administration is busting at the 2387 02:22:01,530 --> 02:22:05,460 seams to punish Assad. Remember, this is an administration that 2388 02:22:05,460 --> 02:22:10,440 has more aggressively than any prior president has punish 2389 02:22:10,440 --> 02:22:13,020 people who are government employees who have been 2390 02:22:13,020 --> 02:22:16,230 whistleblowers. And yet, here's someone who's not a government 2391 02:22:16,230 --> 02:22:19,710 employee who has no duty to, to what to safeguard classified 2392 02:22:19,710 --> 02:22:23,850 information. And yet it looks very much like the US government 2393 02:22:23,850 --> 02:22:27,750 is eager to get their hands on Julian Assange. And that has 2394 02:22:27,750 --> 02:22:30,150 been the concern all along with going to Sweden he has never 2395 02:22:30,150 --> 02:22:34,230 been worried about facing these charges, he feels very confident 2396 02:22:34,230 --> 02:22:37,080 that he will be ultimately vindicated that there's nothing 2397 02:22:37,080 --> 02:22:39,840 to them. I have no opinion one way or the other on that he's 2398 02:22:39,870 --> 02:22:43,230 always been willing to face these accusations. The issue has 2399 02:22:43,230 --> 02:22:45,300 always been that he's because he's not charged. There's been 2400 02:22:45,300 --> 02:22:49,170 this extraordinary and unusual effort to get him onto Swedish 2401 02:22:49,170 --> 02:22:52,740 soil. And the fear has always been that that is just a pretext 2402 02:22:52,950 --> 02:22:55,170 for turning him over to the United States. Something that 2403 02:22:55,170 --> 02:22:55,470 Britain 2404 02:22:55,710 --> 02:23:01,230 did I hear as the reports state that Sweden tweeted the content 2405 02:23:01,230 --> 02:23:04,140 of tweeting thing, the Sweden the country of Sweden is on 2406 02:23:04,140 --> 02:23:06,870 Twitter. Yes, yes. Is it? Is it at Sweden? 2407 02:23:07,320 --> 02:23:11,010 I maybe I don't know. I didn't look, look it up. But they I 2408 02:23:11,010 --> 02:23:13,560 know they do tweet a lot, just like the State Department 2409 02:23:13,560 --> 02:23:17,700 tweets, which is essentially our government tweeting now it's 2410 02:23:17,790 --> 02:23:21,930 Lucifer. It's dumb. But anyway, so they so the British courts 2411 02:23:21,930 --> 02:23:25,050 decided that it's okay to extradite him even though 2412 02:23:25,050 --> 02:23:27,210 there's no real court action in Sweden, there's just a 2413 02:23:27,210 --> 02:23:31,410 prosecutor asking for the guy. And so they decided we'll screw 2414 02:23:31,410 --> 02:23:34,500 him when he's a pain in the ass. So let's send him over to 2415 02:23:34,500 --> 02:23:37,230 Sweden. And everybody knows that Sweden is where they're going 2416 02:23:37,230 --> 02:23:39,660 to, they're going to knuckle under and send them to us and 2417 02:23:39,660 --> 02:23:43,230 we're going to prosecute them, kind of the way we did Noriega. 2418 02:23:44,310 --> 02:23:46,290 And you know, what, the guy's not a US citizen. He's got 2419 02:23:46,290 --> 02:23:48,420 nothing to do with us. He's got no obligations to the United 2420 02:23:48,420 --> 02:23:50,700 States. He's got his own thing to WikiLeaks, but this is 2421 02:23:50,700 --> 02:23:54,330 somehow he's like, you know, we can't drone him. You know, we 2422 02:23:54,330 --> 02:23:56,640 can't obvious if we did. Yeah, we could, but I think it's too 2423 02:23:56,640 --> 02:23:57,120 obvious 2424 02:23:57,150 --> 02:23:59,280 to see he's gonna pick him up. She's gonna go get him in the 2425 02:23:59,280 --> 02:23:59,670 plane. 2426 02:23:59,730 --> 02:24:01,020 That's what it looks like. 2427 02:24:03,630 --> 02:24:06,390 Messages clear? Clip. 2428 02:24:09,330 --> 02:24:12,030 Wow, she's gonna go pick them up. 2429 02:24:13,470 --> 02:24:17,880 So the, so they, they did watch the case, as it went before this 2430 02:24:18,330 --> 02:24:22,830 is whatever they call Supreme Court of UK. And they do have 2431 02:24:22,860 --> 02:24:26,340 they're given them 14 days, because apparently, they the 2432 02:24:26,340 --> 02:24:29,670 lawyer for Assange. They had all these arguments of why they 2433 02:24:29,670 --> 02:24:33,630 can't ship him over there. And then, at the very end, the 2434 02:24:33,630 --> 02:24:37,680 rationale by the Chief Justice had nothing to do with anything 2435 02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:40,890 that was done in the case. And so they're protesting the, their 2436 02:24:40,920 --> 02:24:43,320 conclusions and they want to make they want to make it one 2437 02:24:43,320 --> 02:24:45,900 more argument. So they're going to allow them to do that. So 2438 02:24:45,900 --> 02:24:50,670 Assange has got 14 days left. Yeah, to enter. He's off to 2439 02:24:50,880 --> 02:24:56,160 Sweden and Hillary is there to you know, strong arm the Swedes 2440 02:24:56,160 --> 02:24:59,640 and turning him over that should be a real carnival 2441 02:25:00,480 --> 02:25:07,110 Should it be fun to watch? Yeah. Come into my airplane. Oops. 2442 02:25:09,180 --> 02:25:11,580 Your clothes that we took off, I'm so sorry. 2443 02:25:12,569 --> 02:25:17,489 Wow. Anyway, so I ran into a clip. I just thought this was a 2444 02:25:17,489 --> 02:25:19,619 weird clip. I don't know what to talk about. I just want to play 2445 02:25:19,619 --> 02:25:22,859 the clip. And then maybe something we can discuss in the 2446 02:25:22,859 --> 02:25:25,139 future but play the child poverty clip this was on 2447 02:25:25,139 --> 02:25:28,709 Democracy Now was a throwaway line. They didn't even say 2448 02:25:28,709 --> 02:25:31,439 anything about it. And it's like what 2449 02:25:31,649 --> 02:25:34,679 New figures show the US has one of the highest child poverty 2450 02:25:34,679 --> 02:25:38,279 rates in the so called developed world. According to UNICEF out 2451 02:25:38,279 --> 02:25:41,969 of 35 wealthy countries, only Romania has a higher child 2452 02:25:41,969 --> 02:25:45,269 poverty rate than the United States is 23%. 2453 02:25:46,019 --> 02:25:51,599 Yeah, so we're number 34. Only Romania is 35. And everybody we 2454 02:25:51,599 --> 02:25:53,489 have more child poverty than 2455 02:25:53,640 --> 02:25:57,990 what we're number two, baby. We're going oh, yeah, well, you 2456 02:25:57,990 --> 02:26:00,390 gotta you gotta reverse the chart. We're going for the 2457 02:26:00,390 --> 02:26:01,440 number one spot. 2458 02:26:02,490 --> 02:26:03,900 Yeah. When did that happen? 2459 02:26:05,520 --> 02:26:09,750 Probably around 1972 was when it started. 2460 02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:14,550 Unbelievable. Yeah. Oh, no, I'm so I'm following the Charles 2461 02:26:14,550 --> 02:26:17,760 Taylor case to now explain the Charles Taylor case. Charles 2462 02:26:17,760 --> 02:26:21,870 Taylor was the head of what's country and he took up the 2463 02:26:21,870 --> 02:26:27,960 attack Sierra Leone, like was what it was in Liberia. Liberia, 2464 02:26:28,710 --> 02:26:31,260 Charles Taylor was looking to get the details and it wasn't 2465 02:26:31,260 --> 02:26:33,240 either blood diamonds guy. Yeah, he's 2466 02:26:33,240 --> 02:26:37,800 the Blood Diamond guy. Yeah. We talked about him. Yeah. Liberia, 2467 02:26:37,830 --> 02:26:40,230 Liberia. Yeah, he's the head of Liberia. And then he went to 2468 02:26:40,230 --> 02:26:42,900 Sierra Leone, chopped off people's arms. And he's a desert 2469 02:26:42,900 --> 02:26:44,220 total creep. He's, he's, 2470 02:26:44,250 --> 02:26:47,190 he's on bath salts could be. 2471 02:26:47,490 --> 02:26:50,310 So there's all these different reports about him. And there's a 2472 02:26:50,310 --> 02:26:52,740 good one here, I got two things to play. And then the one a 2473 02:26:52,740 --> 02:26:56,520 democracy now dropped in a little tidbit. Maybe you knew 2474 02:26:56,520 --> 02:26:59,490 about this, but I sure didn't know about and I find it 2475 02:26:59,490 --> 02:27:02,340 peculiar. And again, they just dropped they just drop it in to 2476 02:27:02,340 --> 02:27:04,830 drop these bombs on the show. And then and never say anything. 2477 02:27:05,070 --> 02:27:09,240 Here's the World Court guy, by the way, condemning him a world 2478 02:27:09,240 --> 02:27:12,270 criminal court in this very weird, creepy emotion, 2479 02:27:12,300 --> 02:27:16,170 emotionless way. They haven't, you know, standing trial in The 2480 02:27:16,170 --> 02:27:20,430 Hague. And the whole thing is like a, it's a very, I mean, I 2481 02:27:20,430 --> 02:27:22,950 think this guy's, you know, should have been, you know, he's 2482 02:27:22,950 --> 02:27:25,620 a bad guy. And there's no doubt about that. But there's 2483 02:27:25,620 --> 02:27:28,440 something creepy about this world court and you play that 2484 02:27:28,440 --> 02:27:29,130 little bit. 2485 02:27:29,610 --> 02:27:33,210 This betrayal outweighs the distinctions that might 2486 02:27:33,210 --> 02:27:37,080 otherwise pertain to the modes of liability discussed above, 2487 02:27:37,410 --> 02:27:38,010 and centered, 2488 02:27:38,040 --> 02:27:41,610 the judge spoke of a new era of accountability, effectively 2489 02:27:41,610 --> 02:27:44,730 saying that because Charles Taylor had been a powerful man 2490 02:27:44,730 --> 02:27:47,760 in West Africa, he should have shown more responsibility. 2491 02:27:50,010 --> 02:27:53,850 Now, so I really, so I'm thinking how cheesy I mean, 2492 02:27:53,850 --> 02:27:54,720 there's, there's 2493 02:27:55,110 --> 02:27:57,390 just say something about the International Criminal Court. 2494 02:27:57,510 --> 02:28:03,540 Yes. I'd like to receive the dress code, because they got 2495 02:28:03,540 --> 02:28:04,800 some badass. 2496 02:28:05,130 --> 02:28:07,200 Yeah, it was weird. It looks like a science fiction movie. 2497 02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:07,650 Yeah, they got 2498 02:28:07,650 --> 02:28:09,930 the well, it's like the High Council. They've got the red 2499 02:28:09,930 --> 02:28:13,470 robes and they've got the white beard thing going on. And they 2500 02:28:13,470 --> 02:28:17,550 got special stripes and they must have had a meeting. 2501 02:28:17,850 --> 02:28:19,620 When a kangaroo court, we're going 2502 02:28:19,620 --> 02:28:21,660 to set up this court man, but you know what, you're gonna have 2503 02:28:21,660 --> 02:28:24,870 to wear some really cool robes. The dresses we got are 2504 02:28:24,870 --> 02:28:26,520 outrageous. They're bitchin. 2505 02:28:27,870 --> 02:28:33,180 So, democracy now had a good rundown of this case today. You 2506 02:28:33,180 --> 02:28:36,780 have the short clip from it. And there's a little what, in this 2507 02:28:37,530 --> 02:28:40,950 clip, I'm shaking my head going. I didn't know that 2508 02:28:41,010 --> 02:28:44,670 and President Charles Taylor to 50 years in prison. Following 2509 02:28:44,670 --> 02:28:48,570 his a conviction on war crimes during Sierra Leone's Civil War. 2510 02:28:48,990 --> 02:28:52,080 Taylor was found guilty last month of overseeing crimes 2511 02:28:52,080 --> 02:28:55,500 including murder, rape, conscripting child soldiers in 2512 02:28:55,500 --> 02:28:58,650 sexual slavery. He's the first African Head of State to be 2513 02:28:58,650 --> 02:29:00,810 found guilty and an international court and the 2514 02:29:00,810 --> 02:29:03,420 first head of state to be convicted since the Second World 2515 02:29:03,420 --> 02:29:07,290 War. Earlier this year, US officials confirm long held 2516 02:29:07,290 --> 02:29:11,160 suspicions Taylor worked for the CIA and other US intelligence 2517 02:29:11,160 --> 02:29:15,060 agencies during his emergence as a warlord in the 1980s. 2518 02:29:15,090 --> 02:29:20,340 And he was on bath salts. Did you know that? I do know 2519 02:29:21,120 --> 02:29:23,580 and go to his wiki page. There's no mention of him working for 2520 02:29:23,580 --> 02:29:27,120 the CIA and the whole wiki page or anyplace else I've seen. And 2521 02:29:27,120 --> 02:29:29,880 I guess we did somebody along the lines because they've used 2522 02:29:29,880 --> 02:29:31,920 it. That's not the kind of mistake they make on that show. 2523 02:29:32,610 --> 02:29:38,730 That guy was a CIA guy. Are you kidding me? No, no, no, I'll buy 2524 02:29:38,730 --> 02:29:47,670 that immediately. Awesome. Anyway, I just found that they 2525 02:29:47,670 --> 02:29:50,670 were just like, we're trying to 2526 02:29:50,670 --> 02:29:53,430 see it looks like one guy in the court has a wig. 2527 02:29:54,810 --> 02:29:57,360 I think a couple of them do. It's very that wig 2528 02:29:57,960 --> 02:30:03,090 that we see wigs in the The ICC Yeah, because it makes it look 2529 02:30:03,090 --> 02:30:06,750 so oh no international body declares no wigs zone. 2530 02:30:07,680 --> 02:30:10,170 No, it's just hair. No look, they 2531 02:30:10,170 --> 02:30:14,760 got wigs on. This one judge of the International Criminal Court 2532 02:30:14,760 --> 02:30:17,970 in The Hague has been told lawyers appearing before her may 2533 02:30:17,970 --> 02:30:22,020 not wear wigs. All your good buddy. Judges can Oh, no, here 2534 02:30:22,020 --> 02:30:25,920 it is. There's no official dress code at the ICC. So they're just 2535 02:30:25,920 --> 02:30:29,550 dressing up like, yeah, you can just make up whatever you want. 2536 02:30:31,020 --> 02:30:32,250 That's great. 2537 02:30:32,640 --> 02:30:35,220 So they go get get they get together amongst themselves and 2538 02:30:35,220 --> 02:30:37,950 say, I know what we're gonna wear these crazy rows. 2539 02:30:37,950 --> 02:30:41,730 Yeah, man. Let me get I gotta get this one out. Oh, man, the 2540 02:30:41,730 --> 02:30:43,890 gold trim is awesome. 2541 02:30:45,450 --> 02:30:46,260 Wow. 2542 02:30:47,220 --> 02:30:51,090 That's very cool. I didn't know that. This man with a bird's 2543 02:30:51,090 --> 02:30:53,280 nest on his head has been falsely introduced as my 2544 02:30:53,280 --> 02:30:58,500 counsel. So they said you can make up your own dress kind of 2545 02:30:58,500 --> 02:31:03,810 like in the US Army can make up your own the medals you put on 2546 02:31:03,810 --> 02:31:07,230 the on your jacket, right? You're gonna have your own code. 2547 02:31:07,770 --> 02:31:10,110 If you're a general you can do anything you want your general 2548 02:31:10,830 --> 02:31:11,970 but but wigs 2549 02:31:11,970 --> 02:31:16,320 are not allowed. It's and it's so subtle. No one ever talks 2550 02:31:16,320 --> 02:31:19,470 about this. I'm gonna look into this some more. And it's 2551 02:31:19,470 --> 02:31:20,940 interesting. I like dressing. Yeah, 2552 02:31:20,970 --> 02:31:23,640 we needed the dress code for the ICC codes 2553 02:31:23,640 --> 02:31:26,730 are interesting. Hey, I just want to pass by a couple of 2554 02:31:28,920 --> 02:31:32,400 European Union things, no clips, just some some quick little 2555 02:31:32,400 --> 02:31:36,270 ditties that we've picked up. European Commission has finally 2556 02:31:36,270 --> 02:31:39,060 come out and said it. And they'd like to make this 2557 02:31:39,090 --> 02:31:41,400 a bank union 2558 02:31:42,420 --> 02:31:46,410 so that banks can bail out each other across state borders or 2559 02:31:46,410 --> 02:31:47,460 country borders, but then 2560 02:31:47,520 --> 02:31:50,280 anything to keep the Germans from actually stepping up to the 2561 02:31:50,280 --> 02:31:51,720 plate, but to actually call it 2562 02:31:51,720 --> 02:31:57,510 a bank union I think is pretty interesting. Brussels is now 2563 02:31:57,510 --> 02:32:01,410 advising Gitmo nation, lowlands and Netherlands to as a part of 2564 02:32:01,410 --> 02:32:03,540 their austerity measures, since it doesn't look like they'll 2565 02:32:03,540 --> 02:32:09,630 actually make the 3% to get rid of mortgage interest deduction. 2566 02:32:10,560 --> 02:32:16,590 Yeah, that won't screw anybody. Of course, the Greeks now we 2567 02:32:16,590 --> 02:32:21,030 have we had a Greek pensioner who hung himself. We had you 2568 02:32:21,030 --> 02:32:23,130 know, of course, we had the guy who shot himself now one hung 2569 02:32:23,130 --> 02:32:25,770 himself and said, I you know, I can't stand it anymore. So now 2570 02:32:25,770 --> 02:32:28,590 they're just they're killing themselves in droves. And the 2571 02:32:28,590 --> 02:32:31,860 Greeks are kind of angry about Christine Lagarde, you know, let 2572 02:32:31,860 --> 02:32:35,280 them eat cake. Or she said, you know, hey, you stupid Greeks, 2573 02:32:35,280 --> 02:32:37,590 you got to pay taxes. And it turns out, she doesn't actually 2574 02:32:37,590 --> 02:32:40,470 pay taxes. And this is what I don't understand. She says she 2575 02:32:40,470 --> 02:32:45,780 makes about she was about $600,000 a year. That's just her 2576 02:32:45,780 --> 02:32:50,100 salary, as reported, because of her diplomatic status. Since 2577 02:32:50,100 --> 02:32:54,930 when do you have what since when is the IMF? I mean, how does 2578 02:32:54,930 --> 02:32:58,590 that qualify as diplomatic status? That's not a country, is 2579 02:32:58,590 --> 02:33:02,580 it? No. So why do you get diplomatic status if you're at 2580 02:33:02,580 --> 02:33:03,360 the IMF? 2581 02:33:04,140 --> 02:33:08,130 I don't know. Sounds like a scam. Yeah. who agreed to that? 2582 02:33:08,430 --> 02:33:10,950 I don't know. And the greatest paid the big bucks that need to 2583 02:33:10,950 --> 02:33:11,700 be taxed. 2584 02:33:12,300 --> 02:33:16,260 And the Greeks now on mass are complaining about chemtrails. 2585 02:33:18,660 --> 02:33:21,330 They haven't seen that story. Oh, yeah. 2586 02:33:24,390 --> 02:33:27,930 And there's tons of pictures in the sky. Because of course, I 2587 02:33:27,930 --> 02:33:31,290 need to keep them a little calmer. And then the daily Bell 2588 02:33:31,290 --> 02:33:33,840 reported this, I thought this was already in place. But 2589 02:33:33,840 --> 02:33:38,280 apparently Spain bans cash transactions over 2500 euros. 2590 02:33:40,290 --> 02:33:44,670 So I sent a note to Ignacio Garcia, our our guy on the 2591 02:33:44,670 --> 02:33:49,800 street and our guy feet on the ground in Spain. And I just 2592 02:33:49,800 --> 02:33:52,410 because he sent a note back because I sent him a article 2593 02:33:52,410 --> 02:33:55,410 that says that the Spanish may be the first country to bail for 2594 02:33:55,680 --> 02:33:58,230 the Eurozone because they have the fallback and he confirmed 2595 02:33:58,230 --> 02:34:01,800 most of this. They can fall back to Latin America as their big 2596 02:34:01,800 --> 02:34:05,910 connection and do fine because they don't like you know, stuck 2597 02:34:06,240 --> 02:34:09,330 with the European centric. You know, they want to be European 2598 02:34:09,330 --> 02:34:12,450 centric. And but he did mention a couple of things I want to 2599 02:34:12,450 --> 02:34:16,920 read. He says people here that just because I thought this was 2600 02:34:16,920 --> 02:34:19,830 interesting, apparently is the government workers that are 2601 02:34:19,830 --> 02:34:22,050 screwing things up. They just hired millions of them. He says 2602 02:34:22,050 --> 02:34:24,390 we did a spending way too much in cuts that have to be made, 2603 02:34:24,720 --> 02:34:26,790 apart from the banks who of course have a huge problem with 2604 02:34:26,790 --> 02:34:30,060 their loans going bad. The biggest problem here is enormous 2605 02:34:30,060 --> 02:34:33,420 government machine. In Spain, we have four levels of government, 2606 02:34:33,420 --> 02:34:36,330 five counting Europe, and all of them have been raising their 2607 02:34:36,330 --> 02:34:39,270 salaries and privileges since democracy began. 30 years ago. 2608 02:34:39,270 --> 02:34:42,840 For example, in 2007, we had more official cars with 2609 02:34:42,840 --> 02:34:46,320 chauffeurs in Spain and all those accounted for in the 2610 02:34:46,320 --> 02:34:52,560 United States. Also the highest level outie BMWs and usually say 2611 02:34:52,560 --> 02:34:55,260 about waterworks people having huge salaries in small towns 2612 02:34:55,260 --> 02:34:58,230 here is not so much salary says up to 50 people doing the same 2613 02:34:58,230 --> 02:35:01,950 work as I was doing 20 As I One person was doing 20 years ago. 2614 02:35:02,220 --> 02:35:06,120 He goes on and on about this. And just kind of interesting. 2615 02:35:06,510 --> 02:35:10,200 And he was more concerned with the irony of the fact that that 2616 02:35:10,200 --> 02:35:13,470 Bankia that I will keep saying is going to be broke. Apparently 2617 02:35:13,470 --> 02:35:16,320 in the year 2000 says it was the world's one of the world's 2618 02:35:16,320 --> 02:35:19,980 greatest banks in the world. World Sure. 2619 02:35:23,340 --> 02:35:25,590 What good can you talk about what Garcia does? How does he 2620 02:35:25,620 --> 02:35:29,910 How does he Garner this knowledge? Unemployed? Okay, 2621 02:35:29,910 --> 02:35:39,180 does he hedge in here as far as I know, okay. Okay. Good guy, 2622 02:35:39,180 --> 02:35:42,210 you know if you go to Madrid, absolutely. He'll take you out 2623 02:35:42,210 --> 02:35:48,240 and does the bar scene. You get to have some fun. All right, I 2624 02:35:48,240 --> 02:35:52,590 think I think we've pretty much shot our wad here. 2625 02:35:52,710 --> 02:35:57,030 I know. Do I have anything left on the list? Yeah, you had the 2626 02:35:57,030 --> 02:35:57,930 malware thing? Is 2627 02:35:58,830 --> 02:36:01,680 this the flame thing? The flame thing there's 2628 02:36:01,680 --> 02:36:05,160 a guy was watching the nation's treasure and they had this a 2629 02:36:05,160 --> 02:36:08,340 couple of bananas. And Mace was some think tank 2630 02:36:08,340 --> 02:36:11,550 right nation's treasure. That's good. That's a new one. The 2631 02:36:11,550 --> 02:36:12,060 nation's 2632 02:36:12,060 --> 02:36:16,620 treasure, PBS NewsHour. So they had the CIA woman on and she 2633 02:36:16,620 --> 02:36:20,100 actually started cringing. She wasn't at the CIA anymore, 2634 02:36:20,400 --> 02:36:22,830 supposedly, and she was a bookkeeper for the CIA or 2635 02:36:22,830 --> 02:36:25,440 something. She had a crazy position. But this guy who was a 2636 02:36:25,620 --> 02:36:28,650 security guy, he just brought this up at the end. And I 2637 02:36:28,650 --> 02:36:32,550 thought it was the most interesting of anything, anyone 2638 02:36:32,550 --> 02:36:36,210 has said about this malware thing, which makes me wonder 2639 02:36:36,960 --> 02:36:40,080 what the point of it is, for one thing, it's a 20 megabyte file. 2640 02:36:40,320 --> 02:36:44,100 So it's not like some sneaky little virus. And then he just 2641 02:36:44,100 --> 02:36:45,570 he kind of discusses it here. 2642 02:36:46,260 --> 02:36:49,620 Absolutely. And so there's definitely research ongoing 2643 02:36:49,620 --> 02:36:52,590 right. Now, it may take some time to really unravel this, as 2644 02:36:52,590 --> 02:36:55,200 it is a fairly large and sophisticated piece of code. 2645 02:36:55,440 --> 02:36:59,100 However, most of the security experts that I've spoken with, 2646 02:36:59,100 --> 02:37:02,250 and different people in the community have generally come to 2647 02:37:02,250 --> 02:37:05,790 the conclusion. And this may be somewhat flawed at this point, 2648 02:37:06,000 --> 02:37:10,140 that this is not actually anything that new. In fact, most 2649 02:37:10,140 --> 02:37:13,950 of the capabilities that seem to be within flame we've seen for 2650 02:37:13,950 --> 02:37:18,360 over 10 years. In fact, these monitoring capabilities, and the 2651 02:37:18,360 --> 02:37:21,270 ability to get keystrokes from a keyboard or turn on the 2652 02:37:21,270 --> 02:37:24,840 microphone on a system. We've had those for quite some time. 2653 02:37:24,840 --> 02:37:29,040 So in fact, what we're seeing here is unique only in the sense 2654 02:37:29,070 --> 02:37:32,880 that it's all bundled into one piece of malware, and that it's 2655 02:37:32,880 --> 02:37:37,050 been deliberately put out, again, to specific targets that 2656 02:37:37,080 --> 02:37:39,480 really raise some different questions. The malware itself 2657 02:37:39,480 --> 02:37:42,600 does not really seem to be that unique Other than that, 2658 02:37:42,780 --> 02:37:46,290 all right, I will remind you, Josh Shackleford and Catherine 2659 02:37:46,290 --> 02:37:47,370 loterie. Auntie, thank you. 2660 02:37:48,029 --> 02:37:52,679 I will remind you that I said, Now this has got to go back a 2661 02:37:52,679 --> 02:37:58,739 year and a half ago, I said, the Google is really the virus and 2662 02:37:58,739 --> 02:38:01,499 the debt, you know, the capability to listen to turn on 2663 02:38:01,499 --> 02:38:04,799 your microphone, turn on your cam, all this stuff. It's all 2664 02:38:04,799 --> 02:38:08,129 coming. And here it is. So it's called flame and I'm not quite 2665 02:38:08,129 --> 02:38:11,789 what is what, what do you think is the the I mean, there's code 2666 02:38:11,789 --> 02:38:13,289 in here somewhere this flame? 2667 02:38:13,320 --> 02:38:15,570 I have not figured that out. And I'm wondering if this is 2668 02:38:15,960 --> 02:38:20,070 actually a distro as opposed to any real malware? Well, I 2669 02:38:20,070 --> 02:38:21,810 haven't read the words. I have 2670 02:38:21,810 --> 02:38:23,460 a report that might help us out here, 2671 02:38:23,490 --> 02:38:27,090 an extremely powerful computer virus is attacking computers 2672 02:38:27,120 --> 02:38:30,390 across the Middle East, but especially in Iran, that news 2673 02:38:30,390 --> 02:38:33,990 came today from a Russian security firm. It said the flame 2674 02:38:33,990 --> 02:38:37,440 virus can turn computers into spy tools that even pull 2675 02:38:37,440 --> 02:38:41,460 information from nearby cell phones. Iran blamed Israel for 2676 02:38:41,460 --> 02:38:44,730 another virus attack two years ago, that disrupted part of 2677 02:38:44,730 --> 02:38:48,840 Iran's nuclear program. Today, Israel would not confirm or deny 2678 02:38:48,870 --> 02:38:50,460 a role in this new attack. 2679 02:38:50,490 --> 02:38:53,400 How does that work? How do you pull in information from nearby 2680 02:38:53,400 --> 02:38:54,300 cell phones? What 2681 02:38:54,300 --> 02:38:56,490 does that know how to do that? Well, and 2682 02:38:56,490 --> 02:38:58,110 does it with Bluetooth? Maybe? 2683 02:38:58,140 --> 02:39:02,160 No, it turns on your microphone. Yeah. And listens to your talk. 2684 02:39:03,630 --> 02:39:04,620 On the cell phone, 2685 02:39:04,890 --> 02:39:09,150 so but you have to be on the same network, I guess. No, you'd 2686 02:39:09,150 --> 02:39:11,730 be ready yet to be near the microphone. No, no, 2687 02:39:11,730 --> 02:39:15,960 but it says that the the flame has installed on your computer, 2688 02:39:15,960 --> 02:39:18,780 and then it can activate nearby cell phones. How does that work? 2689 02:39:18,780 --> 02:39:18,930 He 2690 02:39:18,930 --> 02:39:21,840 doesn't really say that. I mean, it's I think what he's referring 2691 02:39:21,840 --> 02:39:24,450 to I don't know. I mean, maybe the Bluetooth does have 2692 02:39:24,450 --> 02:39:26,610 something to do with it. But when this thing is decoded, it's 2693 02:39:26,610 --> 02:39:30,150 going to be or D what's it called? When you reverse 2694 02:39:30,150 --> 02:39:33,330 engineer it is going to just have like all kinds of modules. 2695 02:39:33,330 --> 02:39:36,090 It's well yeah, I think it's a destroy I think they sent this 2696 02:39:36,090 --> 02:39:38,760 out. So you need modules. We got them all. They're all in here. 2697 02:39:39,060 --> 02:39:43,770 I'm thinking it's Google. Now it could be made that makes the 2698 02:39:43,770 --> 02:39:44,550 most sense. 2699 02:39:46,560 --> 02:39:49,260 Well, to you. Yeah. But 2700 02:39:49,830 --> 02:39:50,280 none of 2701 02:39:50,280 --> 02:39:50,940 it makes sense. 2702 02:39:50,970 --> 02:39:54,240 Well, there's only I'll tell you there's only one program I know 2703 02:39:54,240 --> 02:39:59,940 of that can access your hardware in such a manner can store data 2704 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:03,120 large amounts by without, you know, you have to actually say 2705 02:40:03,120 --> 02:40:08,460 No, I don't want you to do that. And that's Flash. Flash has has 2706 02:40:08,550 --> 02:40:10,770 all that capability built right into it. 2707 02:40:11,489 --> 02:40:14,789 And will flash and flame there's your connection. There you go. 2708 02:40:14,789 --> 02:40:15,359 Oh, 2709 02:40:15,360 --> 02:40:20,070 there you go. I like that. And you know and Flash has been 2710 02:40:20,100 --> 02:40:24,150 upgrading a lot recently. If you haven't noticed, we should just 2711 02:40:24,150 --> 02:40:27,690 go away. Is there a way to can we? Can we deconstruct flash? 2712 02:40:28,140 --> 02:40:30,300 Reverse engineer was the word you're looking for? Thank you 2713 02:40:30,300 --> 02:40:30,720 chatroom. 2714 02:40:31,409 --> 02:40:32,309 Reverse engineer. I 2715 02:40:33,030 --> 02:40:34,920 don't know. Maybe I'm thinking 2716 02:40:34,950 --> 02:40:38,280 I'm thinking Flash has something to do with it. Um, I'm not 2717 02:40:38,280 --> 02:40:41,370 buying this Israeli bullcrap at all. Not for a second. 2718 02:40:43,890 --> 02:40:47,730 But it doesn't surprise me. And you know, and who's got the 2719 02:40:47,730 --> 02:40:52,740 time? He's got the time to listen all that bullshit. You 2720 02:40:52,740 --> 02:40:53,160 remember, we 2721 02:40:53,160 --> 02:40:56,910 had to have one last clip, I want to get out of the way. 2722 02:40:57,150 --> 02:41:01,230 Okay, just to bring back the real thing that's going to go on 2723 02:41:01,230 --> 02:41:04,590 in the next six months is the money that's going to be pouring 2724 02:41:04,590 --> 02:41:08,610 into these media companies. And I didn't realize now it's like a 2725 02:41:08,610 --> 02:41:11,070 race. So the amount of money they're going to spend it. I 2726 02:41:11,070 --> 02:41:12,990 don't understand what the media companies just don't say, you 2727 02:41:12,990 --> 02:41:16,770 know, this is I mean, they just encouraging it, especially with 2728 02:41:16,770 --> 02:41:17,910 the report like this 2729 02:41:17,940 --> 02:41:21,870 are lining up to put additional unrestricted amounts of money 2730 02:41:21,870 --> 02:41:26,280 behind him. Politico reported today that Republicans Super 2731 02:41:26,280 --> 02:41:30,000 PACs, and other groups are prepared to spend up to $1 2732 02:41:30,000 --> 02:41:34,650 billion on the presidential and congressional races this year, 2733 02:41:34,740 --> 02:41:38,760 chief among the spenders, billionaire industrialist, 2734 02:41:38,760 --> 02:41:45,030 Charles and David Koch, giving $395 million for political 2735 02:41:45,030 --> 02:41:49,950 advocacy. And the pro Romney super PAC Restore Our Future, 2736 02:41:50,220 --> 02:41:55,080 planning to spend $100 million on advertising. By contrast, 2737 02:41:55,110 --> 02:41:59,160 outside Democratic groups are expected to spend a total of 2738 02:41:59,160 --> 02:42:03,570 three to 500 million, only about half of the total of their 2739 02:42:03,570 --> 02:42:08,340 Republican counterparts. All of which means that 2012 will 2740 02:42:08,340 --> 02:42:13,350 certainly be the most expensive election ever, with both sides 2741 02:42:13,350 --> 02:42:20,700 poised to spend $1 billion apiece. Yeah, hey, why 2742 02:42:20,700 --> 02:42:23,190 don't you support us with $5 a month? Yeah, we're 2743 02:42:23,400 --> 02:42:27,630 gonna play this clip. It's like we can get $5 to some of the 2744 02:42:27,630 --> 02:42:31,620 guys listening to our show. But meanwhile, billions, billions of 2745 02:42:31,620 --> 02:42:34,620 dollars are being spent on essentially advertising. 2746 02:42:35,970 --> 02:42:39,030 Well, we'll keep our eye on everything I'm going to pay a 2747 02:42:39,030 --> 02:42:42,030 little closer attention to Adobe looks like the stock is kind of 2748 02:42:42,240 --> 02:42:46,350 hovering around a 30 mark right now. I don't watch our news. Oh, 2749 02:42:46,350 --> 02:42:51,600 trust those guys. I think that's that's how I would do it. That's 2750 02:42:51,600 --> 02:42:52,320 how I do it. 2751 02:42:52,650 --> 02:42:56,340 Normal. I mean, have you seen these this little flash error 2752 02:42:56,340 --> 02:42:58,680 message that crops up in front of half of the videos because 2753 02:42:58,680 --> 02:43:00,750 it's something is trying to access your memory? Have you 2754 02:43:00,780 --> 02:43:01,890 gotten that at all? No, I 2755 02:43:01,890 --> 02:43:02,700 don't have that one. 2756 02:43:04,170 --> 02:43:06,630 I get that on my machine. It shows up. It's like you have to 2757 02:43:06,630 --> 02:43:10,740 try to click on it. But it's it's a pet peeve. I'll write 2758 02:43:10,740 --> 02:43:12,750 about it. Never be on the show. 2759 02:43:12,840 --> 02:43:15,630 Hey, we're gonna do the incline. Is that the end of show clip? 2760 02:43:16,650 --> 02:43:19,890 Yeah, I might as well. Okay, that's Ed client on Valerie 2761 02:43:19,890 --> 02:43:22,920 Jarrett, the true ruler of the United States of Gitmo nation 2762 02:43:22,920 --> 02:43:25,980 proper. We thank you for tuning in. We really appreciate your 2763 02:43:25,980 --> 02:43:30,300 support DeVore act.org/n A keep us rollin so we can keep hitting 2764 02:43:30,300 --> 02:43:33,210 them in the mouth coming to you from Kent MoPhO here in the 2765 02:43:33,210 --> 02:43:36,360 capital of the drone Star State. In the morning, everybody. My 2766 02:43:36,360 --> 02:43:37,170 name is Adam curry, 2767 02:43:37,410 --> 02:43:41,940 and from Northern Silicon Valley. Calm as ever, I'm John 2768 02:43:41,940 --> 02:43:42,720 C. Dvorak. 2769 02:43:42,779 --> 02:43:46,529 We'll talk to you again on Sunday right here on no agenda. 2770 02:43:52,800 --> 02:43:55,740 Valerie Jarrett, has a mysterious hold over the 2771 02:43:55,740 --> 02:43:58,800 President and the First Lady and has influenced the president to 2772 02:43:58,800 --> 02:44:02,340 make some unwise decision. Here's how the president 2773 02:44:02,340 --> 02:44:05,790 describes his relationship with senior adviser Valerie Jarrett. 2774 02:44:06,210 --> 02:44:09,180 Valerie is one of my oldest friends over time, I think our 2775 02:44:09,180 --> 02:44:12,240 relationship evolved to the point where she's like a sibling 2776 02:44:12,240 --> 02:44:16,230 to me. I trust her completely. So who is Valerie Jarrett and 2777 02:44:16,230 --> 02:44:19,350 why does she have such an influence on President Obama and 2778 02:44:19,350 --> 02:44:22,530 Klein is the author of the soon to be number one New York Times 2779 02:44:22,530 --> 02:44:25,890 bestseller, The amateur. Barack Obama in the White House. Good 2780 02:44:25,890 --> 02:44:28,290 morning. Morning. Nice to have you congratulate here on the 2781 02:44:28,290 --> 02:44:33,840 book. Thank you. She has unique power. Somebody working inside 2782 02:44:33,840 --> 02:44:34,110 the White 2783 02:44:34,110 --> 02:44:37,050 House. We haven't seen anything like this in modern presidential 2784 02:44:37,050 --> 02:44:41,400 history. One person who's the best friend of the First Lady, 2785 02:44:41,730 --> 02:44:44,460 and the soulmate of the president, who was the last 2786 02:44:44,460 --> 02:44:48,420 person to leave the oval office after a meeting, goes upstairs 2787 02:44:48,420 --> 02:44:51,900 to the family quarters has dinner with the President goes 2788 02:44:51,900 --> 02:44:57,990 on vacation with them has his ear is de facto President of the 2789 02:44:57,990 --> 02:44:58,680 United States. 2790 02:44:58,710 --> 02:45:01,740 Wow, that is big. Let's talk about her resume. Does she have 2791 02:45:01,740 --> 02:45:03,000 the resume to have this job? 2792 02:45:03,030 --> 02:45:07,530 No, she doesn't. But what she does have is the trust of 2793 02:45:07,710 --> 02:45:11,640 Michelle Obama, number one whom she hired in Chicago. And the 2794 02:45:11,640 --> 02:45:16,680 President who uses her as his gatekeeper. She keeps away 2795 02:45:16,710 --> 02:45:20,850 people who might come in, and in some way, embarrassed the 2796 02:45:20,850 --> 02:45:25,770 President tried to get him to do things that he doesn't want to 2797 02:45:25,770 --> 02:45:30,210 do. She she uses the radar, right for the President and the 2798 02:45:30,210 --> 02:45:30,930 First Lady, 2799 02:45:31,650 --> 02:45:34,320 you refer to in your book you talk about she has also been 2800 02:45:34,320 --> 02:45:37,560 responsible for much of the incompetence in amateurism that 2801 02:45:37,560 --> 02:45:40,200 had been the hallmarks of Obama's time in office talking 2802 02:45:40,200 --> 02:45:43,650 about some of the things, the SEAL Team Six raid that killed 2803 02:45:43,680 --> 02:45:45,180 Osama bin Laden, this is 2804 02:45:45,210 --> 02:45:49,230 the one time that the President that I know of didn't take her 2805 02:45:49,230 --> 02:45:53,490 advice for months, she argued that he should not send a SEAL 2806 02:45:53,490 --> 02:45:56,700 team in there, because she was afraid that if it didn't work, 2807 02:45:56,940 --> 02:46:00,660 it would be a political disaster for him. He did not take her 2808 02:46:00,660 --> 02:46:03,570 advice at one time and things worked out very nicely. And 2809 02:46:03,570 --> 02:46:06,300 that's the biggest thing of this administration. They were gonna 2810 02:46:06,300 --> 02:46:09,690 hang their hat on health care. But David Axelrod said, Mr. 2811 02:46:09,690 --> 02:46:11,790 President, don't do it. And she said, 2812 02:46:11,820 --> 02:46:17,430 do it go for broke, you came here to engineer social change 2813 02:46:17,430 --> 02:46:21,810 in this country. I mean, she's a very, very liberal person. And 2814 02:46:21,810 --> 02:46:26,700 she, for instance, urged him to put that mandate on church 2815 02:46:26,700 --> 02:46:31,620 related organizations that were required to give free health 2816 02:46:31,620 --> 02:46:35,430 care for contraceptives race was against the advice of Joe Biden, 2817 02:46:35,430 --> 02:46:39,420 the Vice President against the advice of Bill Daley, Bill Daley 2818 02:46:39,420 --> 02:46:44,460 brought Cardinal Dolan into the Oval Office to try to get the 2819 02:46:44,460 --> 02:46:47,790 president to reverse himself. And when Valerie Jarrett heard 2820 02:46:47,790 --> 02:46:51,420 that she wants to the president blue or stack, and Bill Daley 2821 02:46:51,420 --> 02:46:53,970 was shortly ushered out. Yeah, 2822 02:46:54,000 --> 02:46:56,730 more powerful than the cheap them. That's something a lot of 2823 02:46:56,730 --> 02:46:59,130 people were curious why on earth, would the President 2824 02:46:59,130 --> 02:47:02,280 United States have gone to Copenhagen to push for the 2825 02:47:02,280 --> 02:47:05,010 Summer Olympics to go to Chicago? Well, she used to work 2826 02:47:05,010 --> 02:47:08,040 for Mayor Daley, the mayor of Chicago, is there a connection, 2827 02:47:08,310 --> 02:47:13,470 a big connection? Because if the Olympics had gone to Chicago, 2828 02:47:13,470 --> 02:47:16,530 there were billions of dollars that would have been spent on 2829 02:47:16,530 --> 02:47:21,630 building Olympic infrastructure. The President did take her 2830 02:47:21,630 --> 02:47:24,990 advice did go to Copenhagen. And of course, as we know, he came 2831 02:47:24,990 --> 02:47:27,240 back with egg on his face because we didn't get the 2832 02:47:27,240 --> 02:47:27,750 Olympics 2833 02:47:27,780 --> 02:47:30,960 real quickly. And before you go, the mainstream media has really 2834 02:47:30,990 --> 02:47:34,890 ignored the amount of influence this woman for Chicago has over 2835 02:47:34,890 --> 02:47:35,700 this administration. 2836 02:47:35,730 --> 02:47:41,550 It is quite amazing because she is really ground central zero 2837 02:47:41,550 --> 02:47:46,860 ground zero in the White House, and the administration has 2838 02:47:47,640 --> 02:47:50,760 followed her advice and the mainstream media has largely 2839 02:47:50,760 --> 02:47:51,930 ignored it. No kidding. 2840 02:47:51,930 --> 02:47:54,600 All right, well read all about her in the amateur Barack Obama 2841 02:47:54,600 --> 02:47:55,080 in the White House. 2842 02:48:00,390 --> 02:48:04,200 devora.org/n A