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It is November 5, all across
Gitmo nation. It is quite a

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special episode of no agenda.
Mainly because it's early

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morning here for me today and
late night for John exactly the

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opposite of how the show is
usually done. Which means it's

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time for no agenda coming to you
from a very exhilarated and

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excited morning here in the
United Kingdom Gitmo nation

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east. I'm Adam curry.

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I'm John C. Dvorak and I, for
one, welcome our new Obama

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overlord.

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Do you have a voice processor on
your on your setup? John, what's

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going on?

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Why would you get in breaking
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Now? It's interesting. When you
said, it sounds like it's like

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you have like a Darth Vader.
Darth Vader voice?

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Oh, yes. Well, it's a midnight,
you know. So I know. This

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is not your normal voice. This
is messed up. I kind of like it,

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though. Do this do this. Obama.
You are my President.

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Obama, you are my president.

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This is great. We'll leave this
throughout the whole show. I

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don't know what it is. But it's,
it sounds wacky. Hey, John,

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congratulations. We have a new
president.

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Well, you know, the funny thing
is their protest. You didn't get

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to watch all this because you
were sleeping. But they were

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protesting. I mean, there was a
big gathering outside of the

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White House. Code. And yeah. And
they were singing like, you know

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that song? Hey, hey, goodbye,
data. Yeah, okay. And there were

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also signs saying, you know,
evict Bush now?

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Well, he pretty much got his
notice, didn't he? Isn't it

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like, this means he's out?

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Well, the thing is, you know, a
lot of people were saying, you

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know, like, last couple of days
and there's some rumours going

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around that Bush was going to
declare martial law and he's

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going to do this it was gonna do
that I was ever I was cracking

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up every time I heard one of
those, those those concepts,

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because the way I'm seeing it,
and the information that we're

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already hearing about Bush wants
to get out of there tomorrow.

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Yeah, well, if you got people,
Nona Hey, haying you like MTBS

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remote control on your front
lawn? I think that mine kind of

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scurry along there.

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Yeah, well, so he's I think he
was really gonna do a quick

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transition. And and I think he's
gonna bail out before the before

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the deadline.

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Hey, John, this is nuts. Man. I
can't listen to you like this.

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You're too Darth Vader. Let me
let me just bring you back on

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one second. Otherwise, it'll
drive me nuts.

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Okay, so I'm not having normal
voice rights. You

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do much, much better.

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You know what it was I think
that was causing that crazy

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voice.

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It was it was clearly a sample
issue somewhere.

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I had cast blaster up I

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knew it. I knew it. It was a it
was a sample thing. So I shut

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down while he really didn't have
to you shut down cast blaster in

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the meantime. Yeah, yeah. So
before we go any further, can I

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kind of just say one and two
things? I'll take that as a yes,

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you may. One to the rest of the
world, regardless of what anyone

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thinks of Obama as President.
Can we now please once and for

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all lay to rest that America is
a racist bunch of fuckers.

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Because that I think we've
pretty much proven that and all

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the jokes that are always made
in the media, particularly in

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the United Kingdom about the
South and how racist we are.

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Good. We all just stop that now.
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you're Is that is that your idea
of a southern accent?

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No, that is my that is an exact
replication of how the British

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do a southern accent. Wow,

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they really suck at it. Yeah,
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Oh, they sure do. And anyway, so
that's, that's like the number

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one thing? I'd have to say the
number one takeaway right now.

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Okay. Well, I think it's
probably a plus.

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It's a super close. It's a super
plus. Absolutely.

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Ya know, I'm in total agreement
with that. And in fact,

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everybody's all jacked up
worldwide. You know, I'm

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thinking gee, they really are
preoccupied with the USA, aren't

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they? Well,

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I was just watching the morning
shows over here. And they're

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doing man on the street
interviews. And probably five or

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six of the sound bites is like,
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years in Britain, we could have
a black Prime Minister. 10 years

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that they predict.

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Black people were even in
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we got black people, what are
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So anyway, the there was a
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this thing on, you missed a lot
of it. Yeah.

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Well, I had to go to bed around
230. That was just to me after

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that. I'm like, fuck it. I'll
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So the one good piece of news
here is that at least the guy's

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not a Yale graduate. So that's a
big deal.

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John, I mean, you can't say the
one good piece of news. I mean,

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at the end of the day, as
Americans, what we always do, is

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we always say okay, you know,
All right. He's our new

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president. We'll get behind.
That's what we do.

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Yeah. And you know, the one
thing he's gonna have to stop

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doing is and I don't like and I
think he's, you know, somebody's

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I don't know what they're going
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sternly Yes.

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They have to stop doing these
big events. Yeah, that's getting

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a little a little sicko. I
agree. Well, I there's besides

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the sicko part, I mean is
dangerous. Sorry. I mean, we

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love with all the things we do
people talk about it don't like

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to really discuss this too much.
But the one thing we don't need

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is somebody taking a shot at
this jerk. Right?

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Well, but he had that huge
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front of him. That is acceptance
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Yeah, I was looking at that it
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really interesting what they had
done there and I think it was a

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good idea, but they were walking
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mean, this guy has got to be I
mean, he's got to be given his

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opportunity. I mean, we just
don't want some you know, that

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would be I totally bad
happening. I mean, this guy

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needs to be protected due to an
extreme. So

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I've got I've got an idea let's
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let's let's redouble our efforts
enough. Oh, I'm sorry. That is

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the plan but yeah,

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yeah, but this just stopped
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stuff. Anyway, so he had the
tube glass things on the side,

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but there was nothing in the
front that I can see. Now I

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saw a whole documentary
yesterday it looked to me like

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it was like was three quarters
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wrong no I didn't

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Well, here's what I what it
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showed it shot it from different
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covered but the front was was
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though the front did go out very
far wasn't like the whole

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audience could see him from the
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were off to the sides. The front
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it looks like that part that
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was maybe some area that was
where they'd actually checked

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people. I mean, that may have
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that had been secured.

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But at the end of the day, John,
if someone wants to get anyone

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they can get him and there's
clearly no there's there's no

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orders for this. That's how it
works. Our Presidents get

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assassinated by by organisation,
I don't believe their nut jobs.

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They're probably the CIA

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is little late at night. Get
into this. Okay. Don't worry

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about I should go look at your
email and let's take a look at

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that thing I sent you. I saw it
of course okay, I'm in total

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we're watching the show. Here's
some notes that I took. This is

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gonna be interesting. We saw
Jesse Jackson you know, so they

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kept putting the camera on him
and that's one point Jesse

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Jackson is in tears. So my wife
starts going into like a comedy

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act about this you know, it's
like oh, no, never work again.

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She's doing this thought
bubbles. Yeah,

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I really screwed up this time.
Tears it's funny and he just

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didn't look at you have to
wonder you know what what he was

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thinking and where was Hillary?
You know and Bill what they must

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be just beside themselves.

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It's so hard for me to tell or
because the coverage of the

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election because I specifically
watched a lot of UK coverage to

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see what what messages were
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There's none of that. I mean,
absolutely. It was in fact the

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BBC did put me in such a sorry
asked job of covering this and

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what was funny John was around
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when the polls on the East Coast
closed they had this big TomTom

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drone Pune election and then any
and then they come to the to the

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host and the guy's like, well,
we don't really have any

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numbers. You know, it's like a
huge anticlimax because they

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don't understand in the way that
they don't even explain it. No

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one understands how this works.
They must think we're a banana

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republic no matter what, like
what is this electoral votes and

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what is all this crap and how
come you don't get all the

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answers in one go and no, bad?

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So another thing I noticed, I
didn't you know, reading some

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bloggers comments and some stuff
on my blog and then I was

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reading in the Atlantic you
know, she has a lot of Democrat

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apologists and they all that not
all of them but a lot of the a

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lot of the Democrats listen to
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way, I thought John McCain's you
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John McCain's tail, the tail end
of it. Yeah, the whole thing was

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better than any other speech
he's ever given. You know, it

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was kind of like uplifting in a
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get together. I mean, it was I
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good. I mean, better than he has
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which is typical of these guys.

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That that what do you what do
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I'm looking for? When you when
you say okay, I give up? You

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won?

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concession concession speech,
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That obviously was written two
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Obama would When?

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good morning, everybody. How you
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first cup of tea here. I'm
getting ready for the day.

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So, and I thought Obama speech
wherever was all was the best

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job somebody wrote in. It's the
best acceptance speech ever. I

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didn't think so. I you know, and
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one takeaway? There's not one
takeaway. I agree. It was

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basically one of his stump
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without a smile at the end. It
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I mean, it's right. I thought it
was crappy to be honest about it

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just to be straight up. Yeah. I
think he could have made it

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shorter. I think he could have,
you know, let the party began,

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he could have done a lot of
different things. But he just

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essentially did want redid one
of his old speeches, as though

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he was still running. If I was
sitting here with my wife, who

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voted for Obama. And

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does she Mind telling everyone
that? I mean, isn't that

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supposed to be one of the great
secrets you're allowed to keep

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for yourself? And you want to? I
know, but did she okay for you?

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Because I was amazed when I when
when I called you earlier, you

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said, Yeah, says that made me so
yeah, she voted for Obama.

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That's not really nice.

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I'm just kidding. So anyway, she
agreed that it was like, you

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know, why are we listening to
another campaign speech? I mean,

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it should have been something I
think, unique. But I think we're

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gonna be listening to a lot of
the same speech from this guy,

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for the next four years, because
he's, one of the things he seems

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to be is the kind of a
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speaker. And that's, that's me,
if he doesn't do anything else,

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it's still a step up from Bush,
you know, who can't speak, and I

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don't think he's ever given a
decent speech. And at least if

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nothing else is going to make
people think I think it's gonna

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make people conceptually more
erudite. In other words, it's

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going to be, you know, the
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for the country and sets a lot
of standards. And if this guy is

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like a really good orator, which
he is, I think it may be you'll

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improve the way people talk. I
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Well, in general, I'm obviously
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States got the President that
that had wanted. I think that

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was very clear. I think it's
it's obvious that there was no,

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no trickery going on at the at
the at the polling stations. I

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don't think the vote was rigged.
It seems like this is pretty

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much the consensus across the
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sad thing is, is that America
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they wanted to what they wanted
was to get bush out. I mean, I

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think everyone's sick of him.
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part of it. Absolutely. That's,

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this is kind of the problem is I
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know, thinking that this is a
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rejection of not correct.
Instead of a mandate for them to

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go crazy and spend money and do
all the stuff they want to do is

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really kind of like we were,
we're sorry, we put bush in, you

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know, here, go You try it.

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Well, and this is the what a lot
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world don't immediately
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just a presidential election,
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election that took place at the
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very unique combination of the
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executive branch, the presidency
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the blue colour of the one party
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States. But this will be very
interesting to see. Because now

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basically, it's okay. Democrats.
Go ahead, show it.

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Yeah, show us what you got. So
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it's definitely, you know, the
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it's so you know, so it's hard
to get gold or Bush managed to

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do, but it took it really took
him a while. I mean, it wasn't

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like things started falling
apart immediately. But it took

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him a while to get to the point
where he almost broke to

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alienate

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everybody. It took them a couple
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eventually.

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Yeah, it took him a while. I
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state is like, you know, it
doesn't move that fast. And I

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don't know how much we're gonna,
you know, as I find that Obama's

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cadence a little, you know, hard
to handle. It's just like the

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same, you know, get it gets to
me after a while, but I'd rather

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listen to him than Nancy Pelosi,
who I just really great.

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Patricia was telling me that
Obama had speech lessons early

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on, because they really worked
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that cadence has is really
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Did you ever hear

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that there was an audit notes?
Did you have to go back and read

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the article that was in Vanity
Fair. Apparently, Obama had a

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very professorial style of
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basically put people out right.
So I think they've added that

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kind of that weird cadence that
he has, which eventually some

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mimic will really nail it. And
we'll all be able to copy it.

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But no one's done that yet. But
if people have tried, I mean,

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Frank Caliendo, because one of
the great, you know, mimics, we

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have impressionists. He can't do
it. And you know, and he's,

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like, unbelievable. I mean, he
does everybody. And so but once

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they get it, I think we'll all
be able to like, copy it,

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because it's pretty distinctive.
But I heard him in that one of

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the things he did on a public
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was done before were very early
in his career, somebody had made

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a copy this is floating around,
where he, I don't think he had

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the public speaking training at
the time. And it wasn't, it

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didn't seem that much different.
It just, he didn't just have I

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think what he does now is he
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certain kind of professional
way. Yeah, that is what we're

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looking at. And he also has
pauses that are pretty dramatic.

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He does that very well.

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Part of the of the presidential
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the thing that of course, every
politician does is you know, you

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put your thumb over your index
finger, so you're not pointing

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at people but you've got your
thumb thing, almost like you're

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holding a $10 bill between your
forefinger and your thumb

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offering it to people.

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Right. The the Yeah, the Kennedy
pinch. Yeah,

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it was at a Kennedy thing that
he originate that

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as far as I never saw anybody do
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And God knows you. You've been
around you would know

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you'll ever give. I'm trying to
think back if if if Lincoln was

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doing something like that when
he was speaking, I just can't

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quite remember. I think it was a
little too young man.

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That was before there was a
Lincoln bedroom. Oh, my

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goodness.

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But yeah, he does this he does
the pinch thing and he's any any

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any but he does it with kind of
like he's shaking, you know,

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like he's got dice in there.
He's gonna in his head up and

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down with his with his hand.
Although it's slow. You know,

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this will be copied because it's
is very distinctive, and it's

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it's something you can mock.
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we don't one other thing, I
guess what we'll we'll be

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waiting for now is cabinet
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Well, the one thing that's
interesting about him is he has,

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at least with except for a
couple of guys that were booted

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out of his campaign early on,
most of his choices have been,

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again, except for these early
guys that were booted out early

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because they weren't performing.
I mean, he wasn't like Hillary,

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who's just let Did you know,
these incompetence run her

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campaign for a really long time.
He was pretty good at move it

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moving in or improving the staff
to the point where he had just

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an up and a horribly slick, you
know, group of people that just

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killed McCain, me poor McCain is
just was just buried. And the

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worst part about this election,
according to some people, I

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mean, for one thing, campaign
finance reform is done. Yeah, I

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mean, that's just over because
they said that it can combined

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is a little over a billion
dollars Combined, these two guys

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collected CNN

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had a report last night because
I've you know, I've heard the

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same numbers, it was about 690
million spent by Obama and the

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balance of a billion spent by
McCain. But then last night, CNN

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all of a sudden, they had 1.6
billion on the screen. And I

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never saw that. 600 No, they had
900,000 by McCain. And it was

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really weird. million. million.
Yeah, it was really weird. I'm

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like, wow, you know, that's like
double the numbers I've seen.

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And yeah, had it on screen, it
must have been a mistake. But

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regardless, that does hammer
home. I feel my point that

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America still chooses its
presidents like washing powder.

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And if you have enough money,
you can become president

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marketing. Well, I would have I
think it'd be a lot to overcome

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the bush legacy in this case,

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but still took that still took
several 100 million dollars.

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Yeah, that's true. But the one
thing that somebody said though,

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and I just assumed they said it,
I said, Oh, brother, this is

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going to be interesting. There
must be some way of getting, you

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know, into this into this
circle. Somebody mentioned Well,

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you know, he spent close to a
billion dollars. But when you

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think about it, is that really a
lot of money to get this job? Oh

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my god. And as soon as that
suggestion was made, I thought

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Oh, brother this that's exactly
he nailed it. This has become a

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one and two and three and four
and $5 billion drop effort.

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Yeah, yeah. And what no one ever
asked themselves is Where did

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that money come from? Where
who's who paid that money? Well,

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it is not.

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It's all nickels and dimes. You
know, we can trace it

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now. Please. It isn't it is not
I mean, doesn't everyone realise

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that this is, and now that money
is being spent partially from

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the Democratic Party, which I
believe there's no limits to

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what you can donate. So this is
just what was spent, but, you

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know, huge corporations give
money to their parties. In fact,

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they usually give to both right?
Yeah, like, Wall Street

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Corporation. Let's see, maybe
guys that. Let's see, maybe

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you'd bail out? In fact, isn't
it interesting that $700 million

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is is about what we gave to them
in the first place.

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Coincidence?

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Joining us 100

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Well, the the argument I've
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finances was never gonna go any
place anyway. I mean, this just

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exaggerated the problem because
of the fact that one guy took

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public funding. But but I've
always thought the media would

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be the group that's most would
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they're the ones that would lose
in the deal because they need

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the money goes to the media,
most of the money

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What do you mean, they are
against it? They're not saying

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that one campaign finance
reform? I don't really say that.

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No.

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But did the thing that I thought
was funny about this particular

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election because I had blogged
that Obama won a couple of my

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bloggers would have probably
liked to put it in but I saw it

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you know, we went to get some my
wife's birthday today. And so we

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went to our favourite sushi bar.
And so you know, it was obvious

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by seven o'clock West Coast time
that Obama had won the election,

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but these networks would, I had
first thought they were getting

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a little gun shy because they
got more gun shy since the 2000

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election where they got screwed.
But no, it wasn't what it was.

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This thing was so over and done
with it. They were thinking holy

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crap, we can't declare this
thing over because we look at

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all these commercial ads and we
get coming up for the next hour

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or two

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people to watch are funny or
cool touchscreens. They can't

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just like give them the
information now that would be

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wrong.

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So they so it was all on all
these networks and everything so

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it was too close to call too
close to call too close to cut.

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No, it wasn't too close to call.
It's funny. They were stalling.

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Oh, man. Yeah, you're so right.
Of course they were. I can just

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hit I could just hear the I have
bees. I can just hear the other

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voices in the in the little
earpieces. Okay, you got to

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stretch it out. Stretch it out.
We need to make it to the next

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commercial break. Stretch it
out.

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Yeah. And what they were all I
think doing because you know,

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the most especially the cable
networks, they all listen, they

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all watch each other in the
control rooms. They have all the

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different channels going time.
And you know, they're going has

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CNN declared yet? No, no, no.
Okay, then we're not declaring

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is as Fox, what are they doing?
No, no, no, they're going along

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with CNN, they're gonna hold
back

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for people, you know, people who
don't think that that actually

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happens that way. It's on every
single level when I was working

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at z 100. Number one radio
station at the time in New York,

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they had light bulbs, and they
had a light bulb for each of the

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competing stations within the
music's radio market. And when

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that station went into when it
when a competing station went

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into commercials, the light bulb
would go on. And that's when

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we'd play like a number one hit.
I mean, this is very competitive

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in the US broadcast market.

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Yeah. So now that one
interesting thing that took

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place on CNN is that they they
have developed a I don't know

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how far they're gonna go with
this, and if they're going to

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keep doing it, but they've
developed a virtual hologram

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mechanism of some sorts that
they actually use in the studio,

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where they take a reporter and
that you can read about if you

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blog it you'll find or blog it,
if you Google it, you'll find

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some references to it. They did
a reporter and then they did one

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of these some wrapper I am,
whatever his name is, I can't

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remember I actually met him in
in Korea. Big Obama supporter

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anyway. They have the US 35
cameras. And they put some

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person in the little I guess
it's a little spot where these

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cameras are surrounding them.
And then they somehow I don't

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know if they're doing this with
a green screen on the other end.

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I don't even know how it works.
I'm gonna have to find out. But

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it. It looks. It actually looks
pretty cool. But it's a little

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corny.

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I'm looking at at a page right
now. Yeah, this is Well,

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absolutely. This is homography.
And so the so I see a reporter

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standing in the it seems like
the reporter is standing in the

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same room as Wolf Blitzer.
Right. But she's not really

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she's been down. Yes, she's
beamed ins, but I'm not sure if

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we'll actually seeing her. This
is what I don't know. I don't

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know if this is a creator.
They're good.

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They're not that good. They're
just not like Star Trek.

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Blitzer. Well, I know Wolf
Blitzer might be seeing her.

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I don't know what we're looking
at. But whatever the case is,

440
00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:45,600
what they can move the camera
around this image somehow, but I

441
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,230
think, I don't know. I just
first saw it today. I just have

442
00:24:49,230 --> 00:24:52,080
no idea what the deal is why?
You know, 35 cameras is

443
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,400
obviously doing something that's

444
00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:57,600
30 cameras strung together in a
ring around the subject becoming

445
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,760
the image of beaming the image
in 3d by Back to New York. Oh,

446
00:25:04,020 --> 00:25:07,500
no, no, I'm sorry. You're right.
We don't know what Wolf Blitzer

447
00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:09,930
is seeing bad. He's probably
just looking at the monitor like

448
00:25:09,930 --> 00:25:13,410
a weatherman. I should Oh,
that's too bad. I didn't see

449
00:25:13,410 --> 00:25:15,330
that live. I'll have to check
that out. And on some YouTube

450
00:25:15,330 --> 00:25:16,740
clips, that looks pretty cool.
Yeah,

451
00:25:16,740 --> 00:25:18,900
it's actually kind of
interesting. But yeah, I would

452
00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:21,840
like to receive somebody's
report on it to explain to us

453
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,510
what's actually going on instead
of these vagaries. I mean, this

454
00:25:24,510 --> 00:25:27,750
is the kind of reporting we get
35 We know about 35 cameras and

455
00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:30,990
a beam back holographic image.
But what, you know, we don't

456
00:25:30,990 --> 00:25:33,960
know anything at all. Actually,
it doesn't tell me anything.

457
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:34,110
That's

458
00:25:34,110 --> 00:25:36,900
about what I'm finding here in
The Guardian. What's still

459
00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:39,240
wasn't apparent, though, was
whether the hologram was

460
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,090
actually appearing in the CNN
studio, or was merely being

461
00:25:42,090 --> 00:25:45,420
overlaid on the picture for
viewers at home. So they don't

462
00:25:45,420 --> 00:25:45,810
know.

463
00:25:46,199 --> 00:25:48,839
It's they don't know, either. I
mean, that's, that's what I'm

464
00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:50,609
thinking to. I mean, but I bet
you'd think somebody would

465
00:25:50,609 --> 00:25:55,049
report on it. But it's cool. It
looks cool. It looks kind of

466
00:25:55,049 --> 00:25:57,839
cool. A glow. It's a guy kind of
glowy look to it. You know,

467
00:25:57,839 --> 00:25:59,699
there was a you know, if you
remember that, I think was the

468
00:25:59,699 --> 00:26:02,669
next generation or the Star
Trek, the one where they I don't

469
00:26:02,669 --> 00:26:05,849
know which one of the many Star
Trek's there were, they had

470
00:26:05,849 --> 00:26:10,589
experimented with, you know,
they have the communicator, and

471
00:26:10,589 --> 00:26:14,429
they talked to the people in the
other spaceship. In a couple of

472
00:26:14,429 --> 00:26:17,399
episodes, they had experimented
with a actually doing the

473
00:26:17,399 --> 00:26:22,739
holographic image and in the
theatre. Inside No, not in the

474
00:26:22,739 --> 00:26:26,909
theatre, but inside the canoe or
the control cabinet, wherever

475
00:26:26,909 --> 00:26:30,119
they've, you know, the main
operational room, whatever they

476
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,739
call it, the bridge, the bridge,
they were on the bridge. It's

477
00:26:34,739 --> 00:26:39,389
late for me. So they were there
on the bridge, and this image of

478
00:26:39,389 --> 00:26:43,079
Boeing would pop up. And they've
done this on other science

479
00:26:43,079 --> 00:26:46,979
fiction stories, too. And I, and
it was kind of a cool effect.

480
00:26:46,979 --> 00:26:49,259
And it was like something that
probably would exist, but I was

481
00:26:49,259 --> 00:26:52,979
thinking about why they didn't
just stay with this idea for

482
00:26:52,979 --> 00:26:56,039
future episodes, and I realised
that it was it just cost too

483
00:26:56,039 --> 00:26:57,959
damn much to make this special
effect.

484
00:26:57,990 --> 00:27:02,280
Yeah, well, they've had
projection systems that can do

485
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,860
this for for more than more than
15 years, because they want they

486
00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:10,050
had that presentation in
Hollywood, I remember quite

487
00:27:10,050 --> 00:27:12,780
clearly reading about it, where
they brought everyone in,

488
00:27:12,780 --> 00:27:15,840
including Spielberg. And then
you know, guy comes out on stage

489
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,000
one of these private movie
screening rooms, and he says,

490
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,640
Okay, what you're about to see
is, you know, is the future

491
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,070
blahdy blahdy, blah, and then
all sudden, the guy just

492
00:27:23,070 --> 00:27:25,350
disappears because he was
actually a hologram. And

493
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:29,820
everyone was convinced that that
guy was real. So this technology

494
00:27:29,820 --> 00:27:32,130
has been around for a long time,
but is expensive. Yeah, you

495
00:27:32,130 --> 00:27:33,000
better believe it?

496
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:35,910
Yeah, it's probably too
expensive. Probably not

497
00:27:35,910 --> 00:27:37,410
practical. For that reason,

498
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,070
now that we move to digital on
all of our television broadcast

499
00:27:41,070 --> 00:27:45,630
stations throughout the United
States in 2009. Who knows, maybe

500
00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:48,030
there'll be maybe we'll get that
kind of stuff. Maybe we'll get

501
00:27:48,060 --> 00:27:49,500
holographic television.

502
00:27:52,740 --> 00:27:56,160
So I don't I'm not thinking
that's gonna happen. So that's

503
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,190
about it. So the whole night was
kind of anticlimactic. I mean,

504
00:27:59,190 --> 00:28:02,370
we knew what was who was gonna
win the whole thing, you know,

505
00:28:02,370 --> 00:28:05,460
boiled down to a couple speeches
at the end and a big crowd,

506
00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:07,920
which I thought was gonna get
out of control and Chicago, they

507
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,030
were predicting 500,000 to a
million people, which is like,

508
00:28:12,030 --> 00:28:14,970
why would you be wanting that
many people, you know, even

509
00:28:14,970 --> 00:28:17,160
suggesting it? I mean, that's
just asking for trouble.

510
00:28:17,910 --> 00:28:21,900
I think there's, uh, you know,
John, I gotta say I, even though

511
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:27,270
this. Well, I think we all know
my opinion. I'm, I get real

512
00:28:27,270 --> 00:28:30,240
patriotic at these moments, you
know, and, of course, everyone

513
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,180
wants to celebrate and so
500,000 A million you know,

514
00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:35,970
this, like, we're in a state of
euphoria. That's, that's what we

515
00:28:35,970 --> 00:28:38,280
do. We're going to be vibing on
this all the way through the

516
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,520
weekend, at least. Once the next
football game on

517
00:28:42,750 --> 00:28:45,270
the road is college games on
Sunday, that actually there's

518
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:48,150
usually a couple of games on
Thursday night and Friday night

519
00:28:48,180 --> 00:28:51,870
and call them big college games.
A lot of good ones coming up to

520
00:28:51,870 --> 00:28:56,580
Saturday and then of course,
professional. Yeah, sure. We

521
00:28:56,580 --> 00:28:58,080
probably got you till Saturday
until

522
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,050
Saturday, then then we'll be on
the important stuff.

523
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:04,769
Yeah, what college ball? Yeah.
USC playing cow

524
00:29:04,770 --> 00:29:06,870
that should be good. See, you
even know the games.

525
00:29:07,950 --> 00:29:13,230
I know that one. So, yeah.
Anyway, so I don't know. I was

526
00:29:13,230 --> 00:29:17,190
just kind of like, I was kind of
disappointed to be honest about

527
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:21,060
really puscifer the Jesse
Jackson in tears. I was just

528
00:29:21,060 --> 00:29:24,330
too, too, too much. You just
like, wow.

529
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,050
Well, you know, looking at I
have to agree. I mean, I'm not

530
00:29:28,110 --> 00:29:30,750
I'm not disappointed about
anything. And again, I think

531
00:29:30,750 --> 00:29:33,990
this is great for America
because it shows that we all can

532
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:37,020
unite and even if we're uniting
against something that probably

533
00:29:37,020 --> 00:29:39,540
isn't the right thing. It
doesn't matter. The union is

534
00:29:39,570 --> 00:29:43,110
does show what America can do.
And I'm really proud of that.

535
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:47,160
I'm very patriotic, but from a
I'll have to agree with you from

536
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,540
a show perspective. I mean, this
was not the way the series

537
00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:55,680
should end. You know, the that
speech was not the right and me

538
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,160
there's got to be something much
better to really finish this off

539
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,860
before college. starts on
Saturday otherwise, yeah, then

540
00:30:01,860 --> 00:30:05,220
we'd have a real bummer season
of the election show.

541
00:30:06,030 --> 00:30:08,520
Well, they're probably going to
milk the thing a little bit

542
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,580
with, you know, who the, which
we're going to start hearing

543
00:30:11,580 --> 00:30:14,190
about who the various Cabinet
members are. And that should be

544
00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:18,750
interesting. And I suspect it's
going to be a lot of Clinton

545
00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:22,920
people from the Bill Clinton
administration. You know, this

546
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,960
is gonna be the same political
hacks. I mean, you have to have

547
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,700
people that know what they're
doing. You can't just bring in a

548
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,820
bunch of professors that don't
know anything. So it's gonna

549
00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:33,600
have to be some group that's
been in there before. And that

550
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,840
means, I mean, what's the last
Democrat that's been in office,

551
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,760
but in Clinton, I mean, before
that, he had to go back to

552
00:30:38,790 --> 00:30:40,680
Carter, and those guys are
probably all

553
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,530
dead. Except for Brzezinski.

554
00:30:44,460 --> 00:30:48,540
Right Brzezinski that's the one
guy that's your favourite guy.

555
00:30:48,540 --> 00:30:48,810
That's

556
00:30:48,810 --> 00:30:51,180
the guy running the show. Yeah.

557
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:59,760
Maybe true. So On another
matter. We went to see some my

558
00:30:59,790 --> 00:31:03,090
daughter does improv and so we
went to see some stuff here in

559
00:31:03,090 --> 00:31:11,400
San Francisco. And we walk right
past it was at the Fort Mason,

560
00:31:11,910 --> 00:31:17,040
and we walk right past an event
that if you are in town, and my

561
00:31:17,490 --> 00:31:20,160
apparently my wife went out of
her way not to tell me about

562
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:20,520
this.

563
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,250
Oh, man. Don't tell me there was
another David Icke show.

564
00:31:24,660 --> 00:31:27,990
A 2012 convention. Oh, crap,

565
00:31:28,860 --> 00:31:31,890
man, and we missed it and she
went out of her way not to tell

566
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:32,190
you

567
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,290
that's what she says.

568
00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:38,070
Take it from the people who love
Yeah,

569
00:31:38,580 --> 00:31:42,120
well, anyway, went in there
anyway. Just as just a go

570
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,510
wandering in. And oh, man, I
thought I wouldn't.

571
00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:49,320
I would have loved it right. You
might

572
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:52,560
you might but I'll tell you it
was like walking into your you

573
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:59,700
just had this vibe of of
certifiable insanity.

574
00:31:59,730 --> 00:32:03,840
It was it the vibe of 2012 is
coming Doom and death or the or

575
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,210
salvation is coming the ascendo
there

576
00:32:06,210 --> 00:32:07,260
the doom and death types.

577
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:11,400
I don't like those guys. Now,
I'm not into that.

578
00:32:12,030 --> 00:32:14,790
And I mean, end of the world.
2012 No, no,

579
00:32:14,790 --> 00:32:16,830
no, it's not the end of the
world. It's the beginning of the

580
00:32:16,830 --> 00:32:19,410
New World, the dawning of the
age of awareness. Maybe

581
00:32:19,410 --> 00:32:21,870
I have to go back and look at
this. Some of the flyers that I

582
00:32:21,870 --> 00:32:25,350
grabbed, but I get a sense it
was maybe that's what it is. I

583
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:28,140
don't know. Whatever it was, it
was creepy. And they're all

584
00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:31,800
dressed weird. And I know it's
just kind of now now. And they

585
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,360
look at you weird when you go in

586
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,700
narc. He's got to be a narc and
look at him. He's got an article

587
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:39,540
written all over.

588
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:43,950
I didn't have narc written all
over me. They immediately wanted

589
00:32:43,950 --> 00:32:46,530
to sell me I should have bought
this thing was only 10 bucks.

590
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:50,040
They wanted to immediately we
should have walked in here's it

591
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,340
here's the poster from the event
and all the autographs of all

592
00:32:53,340 --> 00:32:55,260
the different speakers on it.
I've always

593
00:32:55,260 --> 00:32:58,050
wondered when you know when we
go out to dinner all these these

594
00:32:58,050 --> 00:33:00,930
classy restaurants just
wondering together do we look

595
00:33:00,930 --> 00:33:04,890
like like you might like where
you're my gay sugar daddy.

596
00:33:06,570 --> 00:33:10,410
You know, I don't think so.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure because

597
00:33:10,410 --> 00:33:12,990
you can tell I mean, for one
thing we'd I don't think we give

598
00:33:12,990 --> 00:33:19,710
off any any gay vibe. I do. And
then the other thing is I don't

599
00:33:19,710 --> 00:33:21,720
think anyone in San Francisco
notices one way or the other

600
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:29,040
cares. Because there's a lot of
through there's a lot of I don't

601
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,350
look like what says you're
picking up the tab

602
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,180
but you're refining me in life
you're showing me which wine to

603
00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:44,070
drink. And so I so I can culture
myself cultivate myself?

604
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,370
Yeah, but I never really do that
we just buy the wine and drink

605
00:33:47,370 --> 00:33:52,080
it. Like every lane anything is
like,

606
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,500
I'm just wondering, what are you
explaining all the time? We're

607
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:56,340
always talking.

608
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,170
Mostly I'm just giving you the
the the ridiculous anecdotal

609
00:34:01,170 --> 00:34:04,230
material about this wine in his
winery and where it came from

610
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:07,530
and describe, but it's that's
different than what you would do

611
00:34:07,530 --> 00:34:09,630
if you were like trying to get
somebody up to speed on their

612
00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:10,140
palate.

613
00:34:10,169 --> 00:34:13,109
Yeah, but yeah, but from a
distance, you know, and then

614
00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:15,989
we're always talking about our
gadgets. You know, I think

615
00:34:15,989 --> 00:34:18,989
there's a lot of gayness to us,
John, I'm sorry. It's just as an

616
00:34:18,989 --> 00:34:22,409
outsider, I think we would
actually. At

617
00:34:22,590 --> 00:34:24,510
least we're in the right
neighbourhood for it. Yeah.

618
00:34:24,510 --> 00:34:29,430
Through through, like, you know,
get beat up in Chicago.

619
00:34:30,150 --> 00:34:34,470
By you know, you even get beat
up in Amsterdam for being gay

620
00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:41,100
these days. It's fucked up. Beat
up and it's true. It's true.

621
00:34:41,370 --> 00:34:44,610
That never ever used to happen.
The tolerance level of course

622
00:34:44,610 --> 00:34:48,750
was so high and that's
dramatically changed over the

623
00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:52,620
course of the past decade. It's
really It's become sad, really

624
00:34:52,620 --> 00:34:53,040
sad.

625
00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:56,549
I wonder what's what's what's
changed in Holland. I will

626
00:34:57,150 --> 00:35:00,210
tell you that any Dutchman can
tell you that's immigration. In

627
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:06,810
immigration of Moroccans
predominantly, yeah, it will

628
00:35:06,810 --> 00:35:10,860
culturally do not fit with a gay
culture in general.

629
00:35:12,869 --> 00:35:16,319
There was a funny irony in
California because they had run

630
00:35:16,319 --> 00:35:19,829
this proposition eight, which
was a

631
00:35:20,010 --> 00:35:22,110
date did that pass? Or what's
the deal?

632
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,240
It looks like it's gonna pass.
Oh, no,

633
00:35:24,479 --> 00:35:25,529
that's bad, right?

634
00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:30,990
Bad, good. I mean, I don't care.
But the but the point is, is

635
00:35:30,990 --> 00:35:35,460
that there was a passage of a no
gay marriage, something some

636
00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:39,330
years ago, the state didn't want
gay marriage in the state for

637
00:35:39,330 --> 00:35:42,150
some reason, which is weird,
because it you know, San

638
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:46,320
Francisco is fairly gay. And,
you know, but you know, it's not

639
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,460
the whole doesn't represent the
whole state. But then the courts

640
00:35:50,460 --> 00:35:53,220
got a hold of this, in some
case, rather, and then reversed.

641
00:35:53,250 --> 00:35:56,670
You said, this is bowl and gay
marriage is now legal, and which

642
00:35:56,670 --> 00:36:01,650
is like going from, you know,
one extreme to the other. And so

643
00:36:01,650 --> 00:36:07,320
they that this became kind of an
issue. And so they got together

644
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,140
and said, No, we're gonna pass a
constitutional amendment. That

645
00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:14,580
was the yes on eight thing. And
the irony is, is that because

646
00:36:14,580 --> 00:36:19,380
Barack Obama, who all the gays
helped vote in, brought out so

647
00:36:19,380 --> 00:36:23,190
many black voters, like
everyone, 96% of all the voters

648
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:26,100
that were black, were voted for
Barack, but a lot of them are

649
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:29,700
new, they never would never vote
normally. They all came out. And

650
00:36:29,730 --> 00:36:32,970
with few exceptions, most of the
black communities against gay

651
00:36:32,970 --> 00:36:37,050
marriage. So he had this very
interesting kind of, like,

652
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,560
here's the good news. And here's
the bad news about, you know,

653
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,280
from the same group. Do you have
that thought it was fascinating.

654
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,250
I thought it was ironic in a
very fascinating way. You have

655
00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:47,520
that on

656
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,820
statistics that most of the
black community is against gay

657
00:36:50,820 --> 00:36:53,730
marriage. Is that Is that what
you just heard you say? Yeah,

658
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,870
yeah. Really?

659
00:36:55,530 --> 00:37:01,890
Yeah. Nida was well documented.
In fact, they have trained

660
00:37:01,890 --> 00:37:07,050
review. Black community, which
has many religious people. There

661
00:37:07,050 --> 00:37:12,300
were no the blacks, generally
speaking, are way on the yes

662
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:14,370
side of this issue. Wow.

663
00:37:14,730 --> 00:37:17,880
But there's I'm just Googling
around. I don't see any final

664
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,740
result? I guess there were no,
we won't know that until the

665
00:37:19,740 --> 00:37:20,160
morning.

666
00:37:20,819 --> 00:37:23,639
Well, it's pretty close. But you
know, it's it's both sides. And

667
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:26,489
we're hoping for the best, but I
think it's going to pass.

668
00:37:26,730 --> 00:37:30,180
And passing means that that
would ban gay marriage,

669
00:37:30,420 --> 00:37:38,850
right? Back to square one. So
I'm personally blamed. If they

670
00:37:38,850 --> 00:37:40,950
have this clip, I'm gonna
probably start using it on tech

671
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:48,030
five. I personally blamed Gavin
Newsom, because he came out and

672
00:37:48,180 --> 00:37:52,650
after the Supreme Court made gay
marriage legal. And of course,

673
00:37:52,650 --> 00:37:56,310
he's made it legal for him by
Fiat for a while in San

674
00:37:56,310 --> 00:38:00,960
Francisco. But once they did
that, he made a speech, kind of

675
00:38:03,330 --> 00:38:06,690
throwing it throwing it in
everyone's face. Like, you know,

676
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:13,980
they, here's what he uses
comment. It was nothing you can

677
00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:19,110
do about it now in a very kind
of a mocking way. And you can do

678
00:38:19,110 --> 00:38:22,320
about it now, you know, kind of
thing. And that got used by a

679
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,500
lot of the advertising for the
pro side. And I think it was

680
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:28,740
very detrimental, that this guy
would come out and start, you

681
00:38:28,740 --> 00:38:30,840
know, flaunting it.

682
00:38:30,929 --> 00:38:32,999
Yeah, that's that's not only
unprofessional. It's

683
00:38:32,999 --> 00:38:35,159
unsportsmanlike. Well,

684
00:38:35,369 --> 00:38:39,329
it didn't help the cause. Let's
put it that way. So I blame him.

685
00:38:39,659 --> 00:38:45,029
Yeah. Well, typical. Now this
guy's got the problem with Gavin

686
00:38:45,029 --> 00:38:46,949
Newsom. And people out there who
don't know who this guy is, you

687
00:38:46,949 --> 00:38:49,499
can look him up on Google and
take a look at his picture. He

688
00:38:49,499 --> 00:38:53,399
looks a little like, like a
treat Williams type actor. He's

689
00:38:53,399 --> 00:38:57,029
a really good looking guy who is
always dating models, and he's

690
00:38:57,029 --> 00:39:01,409
got a lot of charisma. And you
can see that they're grooming

691
00:39:01,409 --> 00:39:04,829
him as a as a governor type, you
know, from the Democratic Party.

692
00:39:04,829 --> 00:39:08,699
Totally. Yeah. And, you know, as
you can see, he was you know, he

693
00:39:08,699 --> 00:39:11,549
would like to be president or
something like that, but I think

694
00:39:11,549 --> 00:39:16,439
he's just a little too achy. Is
it Yeah, he's a little he's a

695
00:39:16,439 --> 00:39:17,099
little greasy.

696
00:39:17,130 --> 00:39:24,090
Yeah. achy, achy, greasy. Yeah,
exactly. Well, so I guess the

697
00:39:24,090 --> 00:39:26,310
stock market will go crazy then
today.

698
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:29,520
Let's see if the what the pre
market looks like man what

699
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,780
a future saying. I bet you
they're up. We had a really like

700
00:39:33,780 --> 00:39:38,700
a 300 point up uptick today on
the Dow. On the eve of the

701
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:44,040
elections. Yeah. Well, I'm just
saying

702
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,300
Yeah, well, I mean, the markets
been going up because of this.

703
00:39:49,260 --> 00:39:54,960
Once the guys who was one of the
two guys is Hold on a second in

704
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,600
there would have been gold with
it and either one of them.

705
00:39:57,750 --> 00:40:00,630
Generally speaking, right after
elections. You notes like that

706
00:40:00,660 --> 00:40:03,060
it takes the uncertainty out of
the picture now you can start to

707
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:06,390
figure out what you want to do
and so that makes a big

708
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:10,830
difference on the wrong computer
to get to what I'm looking for

709
00:40:10,830 --> 00:40:15,390
your let's see the Dow futures

710
00:40:15,449 --> 00:40:18,749
are huge you have a special
machine that's like your, your

711
00:40:22,169 --> 00:40:25,439
your trading machine where you
have your level two screens and

712
00:40:25,439 --> 00:40:26,399
you have all of your

713
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,899
10 screens and I poke away and
you just sit in the middle in a

714
00:40:30,899 --> 00:40:37,679
big cushy black chair Buy Sell
hold short that fucker so was up

715
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:42,329
three or five today. So we'll
see what the futures are here

716
00:40:42,329 --> 00:40:45,329
there should be some aftermarket
numbers floating around

717
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,890
you can only you can get that on
Bloomberg.

718
00:40:48,570 --> 00:40:52,470
You know, I've been become an
addict to Yahoo really Yahoo

719
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:59,550
Finance. Interesting. Curious I
used to use US stocks and index

720
00:40:59,550 --> 00:41:01,680
futures fall after Obama when

721
00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:09,390
I went down. Reuter story on it.
We lost it. This went down three

722
00:41:09,390 --> 00:41:13,560
one to 1.3 1.6%. And it's been
going up a couple of days at

723
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,570
this just a correction I think

724
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:23,130
so I've got futures. Dow down
137 Oh, that's that it should

725
00:41:23,550 --> 00:41:27,810
open flat at least. s&p 500 Now
actually these are these are

726
00:41:27,810 --> 00:41:32,580
pretty simple. This may be in
the hundreds. Yeah. Could have

727
00:41:32,580 --> 00:41:35,220
been. That's what I've learned.
I've learned how to do this from

728
00:41:35,220 --> 00:41:42,060
Mark. Mark, my friend on CNBC.
The chubby guy, and oh, yeah, my

729
00:41:42,060 --> 00:41:44,730
girlfriend. Ah, she looks so
beautiful last night, Erin

730
00:41:44,730 --> 00:41:45,210
Burnett.

731
00:41:46,889 --> 00:41:49,409
Did you see her getting a crush
on this woman

732
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,070
getting? Are you kidding me?
It's out in the open. I'm

733
00:41:53,070 --> 00:41:55,470
sitting there with her Trisha
going like Oh, mu and Rush

734
00:41:55,470 --> 00:41:59,370
Limbaugh. I love her. I love and
Patricia like she's kind of

735
00:41:59,370 --> 00:42:04,080
nerdy. I said precisely. Yes,
she is. She's She's No she's

736
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,400
not. classic beauty. But Ah man,
and she's single.

737
00:42:10,469 --> 00:42:13,199
I'm sure she doesn't have too
much trouble getting a date.

738
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:16,529
I don't know, man. She's got a
tough. She's gotta get a

739
00:42:16,529 --> 00:42:19,619
brilliant. What do you what is
this? John, can I have a half a

740
00:42:19,619 --> 00:42:21,899
dream for a second here? Because
you've probably seen somebody

741
00:42:22,829 --> 00:42:25,469
tell me she's lesbian. Next,
please. Anything?

742
00:42:26,250 --> 00:42:28,950
She doesn't seem to have any of
those earmarks. Oh,

743
00:42:28,949 --> 00:42:30,959
man. But that would complete the
picture, wouldn't it?

744
00:42:34,110 --> 00:42:41,040
So maybe the Dow is gonna fall
tomorrow, it's possible. It

745
00:42:43,530 --> 00:42:46,980
bumps into things gonna bounce
down back to his bottom, you

746
00:42:46,980 --> 00:42:49,530
know, where it's just kind of
like going to get to build the

747
00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:52,140
base, it's got to build a base
of foundation, I have

748
00:42:52,139 --> 00:42:55,019
money riding on 7286 as a
bottom.

749
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:59,550
I don't think he's ever going to
get that there ever. Now

750
00:42:59,550 --> 00:43:02,460
deciding one of my friends says
that he's expecting I think I

751
00:43:02,460 --> 00:43:04,680
mentioned this before he's
expecting this thing to fall

752
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:10,410
apart in April. And markets done
that a couple of times in the

753
00:43:10,410 --> 00:43:10,890
spring.

754
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,710
But fundamentally, I mean, this.
Look, what I here's what we'll

755
00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:19,110
probably have is just get back
to the to the elections a little

756
00:43:19,110 --> 00:43:21,870
bit for a second. Because what
is going to happen tomorrow,

757
00:43:21,870 --> 00:43:27,060
what's the spin going to be? I'm
I'm pretty sure that Wall Street

758
00:43:27,060 --> 00:43:31,080
knows that their contribution to
electing Barack Obama, which was

759
00:43:31,110 --> 00:43:34,380
you know, 10s of millions of
dollars huge. Yeah, if not

760
00:43:34,380 --> 00:43:38,940
hundreds who knows? They know
that he there's nothing that he

761
00:43:38,940 --> 00:43:41,430
can implement until he's
actually in office. So nothing

762
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:45,360
is going to change. I predict
actually, there's going to be a

763
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,810
lot of negative spin from the
markets, that you know, they're

764
00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:53,580
all going to be in an
anticipatory state. You know, we

765
00:43:53,580 --> 00:43:56,040
can't really do anything we have
to see what what the new

766
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,080
president is going to do. I
think they're going to spin this

767
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,510
negative. Honestly,

768
00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:02,850
what would be the point of that?

769
00:44:03,389 --> 00:44:06,509
Because that because there's
really there's no change there's

770
00:44:06,509 --> 00:44:08,789
nothing there is no change at
the moment. They can't do

771
00:44:08,789 --> 00:44:12,869
anything. And the thing that
least unsure about is at least

772
00:44:12,869 --> 00:44:17,309
probably with McCain, they would
have had an idea of alright, you

773
00:44:17,309 --> 00:44:20,519
know, yeah, well we'll raise
taxes but it won't be raised on

774
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:25,739
us. Everyone knows that this
trillion dollars or really it's

775
00:44:25,739 --> 00:44:29,819
more like 3 trillion probably
that's been pumped in to the to

776
00:44:29,819 --> 00:44:34,229
the system has to come from
somewhere and it has to come

777
00:44:34,259 --> 00:44:37,589
either from more borrowing or
from taxes neither of which

778
00:44:37,949 --> 00:44:39,359
really bode well.

779
00:44:42,989 --> 00:44:44,639
Good I'm looking at some
articles here where they're

780
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:48,329
predicting what what effect is
and I wrote a thing called How

781
00:44:48,329 --> 00:44:50,609
do Obama proof your portfolio?

782
00:44:51,540 --> 00:44:52,620
Is that a market watch?

783
00:44:52,830 --> 00:44:57,060
It's a market watch course I got
you when you read it. You can

784
00:44:57,060 --> 00:45:00,750
kind of figure out who it was it
was given a good I'm quoting

785
00:45:00,750 --> 00:45:06,360
some very rich person that we
both know who has his personal

786
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,690
theory about what to do with
your money. It's, you know, it's

787
00:45:09,690 --> 00:45:13,650
kind of conservative, but much
of it has to do with get getting

788
00:45:13,650 --> 00:45:20,310
your money out of a lot of stuff
that might not work out. And but

789
00:45:20,310 --> 00:45:23,760
he did have one interesting
comment, which was, he thinks a

790
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,680
lot of this green stuff that's
going to be probably emphasised

791
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,130
by this administration, I will
invite a lot of scammers,

792
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:34,680
because when you have just a
bunch of money flying around

793
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,930
like that, you're gonna find a
bunch of rural flicky kind of

794
00:45:36,930 --> 00:45:40,200
sketchy companies cropping up
all over the place. And you have

795
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,060
to be really concerned about
that.

796
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:45,960
Well, you've spent a lot of cap
and trade systems that are going

797
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,120
to be put into into effect.

798
00:45:48,809 --> 00:45:52,319
Yeah. So I'm looking at this
Reuters article on how a US

799
00:45:52,319 --> 00:45:55,439
stock sectors could fare in an
Obama administration. There's no

800
00:45:55,439 --> 00:45:59,489
Bilanz. Reuters, actually, yeah,
Reuters. But he goes on to solar

801
00:45:59,489 --> 00:46:03,809
wind power. This, whoever wrote
this shares, the solar energy

802
00:46:03,809 --> 00:46:07,169
companies, and he's got a bunch
of them listed here might be

803
00:46:07,169 --> 00:46:12,479
kind of interesting. It's
probably an article to read

804
00:46:12,509 --> 00:46:18,179
or was a big, that was a big
brouhaha over here. They've done

805
00:46:18,179 --> 00:46:20,699
the numbers. Gordon Brown, the
Prime Minister of the United

806
00:46:20,699 --> 00:46:23,399
Kingdom, you know, of course,
he's, he's basically talking the

807
00:46:23,399 --> 00:46:26,399
same shit all world a world
leaders are. And he's saying,

808
00:46:26,399 --> 00:46:31,589
oh, we'll create 100,000 jobs in
wind energy alone. And so

809
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:33,479
they've done the numbers and
they said, well, with the kind

810
00:46:33,479 --> 00:46:36,269
of money you're pumping into it,
which is only like 100 million

811
00:46:36,269 --> 00:46:38,819
pounds, or something or
whatever. They say, you know,

812
00:46:38,819 --> 00:46:43,559
you might create 10,000 jobs,
not 100,000. That there's a

813
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,300
lot of exaggeration. It kind of
bothers me about Obama, although

814
00:46:48,330 --> 00:46:53,310
anyone would do this is the
adult these promises, you know,

815
00:46:53,310 --> 00:46:55,410
we're gonna do this, we're gonna
do that. And it's like, you

816
00:46:55,410 --> 00:46:57,000
know, we're gonna spend this and
we're going to do that we're

817
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,280
going to fix this, and we're
going to fix that. Well, let me

818
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,740
get let's get a list and write
it down and see what actually

819
00:47:01,740 --> 00:47:05,700
gets done. I just think it's
gonna be a continuation of the

820
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:10,140
of the Clinton administration.
That would be good. Actually, I

821
00:47:10,140 --> 00:47:14,700
didn't think that ruin the
country by any means. But bad

822
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:18,150
news, the bad possibility is
that would be a continuation of

823
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:21,270
the Carter administration be
Carter to you never did have a

824
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:24,960
second term. I don't think he
did that. Well,

825
00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:28,470
well, so this is this is kind of
interesting, because while you

826
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:33,210
were saying that I went to
Barack obama.com, which, by the

827
00:47:33,210 --> 00:47:37,080
way, has the entire list and
it's very detailed, and it's all

828
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,590
you can say, PDFs do a screen
capture. While you can that I've

829
00:47:40,590 --> 00:47:43,650
saved all the PDFs because they
have those as PDFs now just went

830
00:47:43,650 --> 00:47:46,410
to the site. Again, these guys
are slick. I like the way they

831
00:47:46,410 --> 00:47:50,550
operate. Big thank you, Banner
change can happen. Thank you. It

832
00:47:50,550 --> 00:47:53,670
says, you provided you prove
that change can happen. You

833
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:56,430
built an unprecedented
grassroots organisation in all

834
00:47:56,430 --> 00:47:59,190
50 states that brought a record
number of people into the

835
00:47:59,190 --> 00:48:01,950
political process many for the
first time many for the first in

836
00:48:01,950 --> 00:48:05,130
a long time, our success
required unprecedented

837
00:48:05,130 --> 00:48:08,070
resources. And our Democratic
National Committee played a

838
00:48:08,070 --> 00:48:11,070
major role on the ground efforts
that generated record turnout,

839
00:48:11,250 --> 00:48:15,420
up and down the ticket, please
make a donation to the DNC to

840
00:48:15,420 --> 00:48:19,260
help fund it. Here it is. When
you donate $30 or more, you'll

841
00:48:19,260 --> 00:48:23,310
receive a limited edition shirt
to show your support for change.

842
00:48:23,610 --> 00:48:24,120
They don't

843
00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:27,179
let up. Now they don't let up
those guys really know how to

844
00:48:27,179 --> 00:48:28,109
grab money.

845
00:48:28,140 --> 00:48:34,680
Hey, by the way, this is holy
crap. So wait a minute. There's

846
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,620
actually no more menus. Oh, I
skipped the donation and go to

847
00:48:37,620 --> 00:48:40,230
the website or that freaked me
out. Or like Don't tell me they

848
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:41,940
took everything offline.

849
00:48:42,540 --> 00:48:44,340
No, no, it's all there. Yeah.

850
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:46,650
That's different. So

851
00:48:46,950 --> 00:48:51,210
I think it's funny though the
splash page is now a another

852
00:48:51,210 --> 00:48:54,210
thing to collect more money. I
hate I hate to tell you guys

853
00:48:54,210 --> 00:48:56,550
this, but that's the hard one.
Yeah.

854
00:48:56,940 --> 00:49:00,150
No, no, but but that's that's
the beginning. Here's here's

855
00:49:00,180 --> 00:49:02,730
here's, here's where we start to
take money away from you. We

856
00:49:02,730 --> 00:49:04,050
start with the homepage.

857
00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:10,440
Hillary supporters get involved.
And here's the Obama mobile text

858
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,750
hope 262262 I guess what's done
in uh, maybe some of that money

859
00:49:15,750 --> 00:49:20,580
goes through the group organised
locally with our online tools.

860
00:49:22,110 --> 00:49:25,800
Yeah, these guys are just so
much. I mean, there's, it's just

861
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,160
kind of embarrassing, because he
made it do Republicans at one

862
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,400
time with in terms of their
marketing strategies were way

863
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,590
ahead of the Democrats,
especially with direct mail and

864
00:49:34,590 --> 00:49:39,390
things like that. Go ahead. Once
the internet came along, it's

865
00:49:39,390 --> 00:49:41,310
just like that, you know,
especially with guys like Joe

866
00:49:41,310 --> 00:49:45,210
Trippi who was like one of the
really smartest internet and

867
00:49:45,210 --> 00:49:47,910
he's the guy who did the Howard
Dean thing he made you know, the

868
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:51,600
guy household name before
anybody ever saw him. He was

869
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,710
collecting money left and right
for that guy. And they just

870
00:49:55,740 --> 00:49:58,890
heads and shoulders above the
Republicans with this stuff.

871
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,600
There publican stuff is Mickey
Mouse compared to the Oh,

872
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:09,330
yeah, it's like my first Sony
versus an HD, an HD camera. And

873
00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:14,250
what I was most impressed by was
the social engineering, the way

874
00:50:14,250 --> 00:50:18,630
they you know, the number I
heard about a number of

875
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:22,710
astounding things they put
together, you would donate then

876
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:27,090
you would get recruited into
calling people that match. Last

877
00:50:27,090 --> 00:50:30,420
name. So like Jewish last names
will get Jewish last names to

878
00:50:30,420 --> 00:50:34,980
call Irish last names get Irish
last names to call, they would

879
00:50:34,980 --> 00:50:38,280
actually they had kind of like
one of those reverse VoIP type

880
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,090
systems, I believe, so that you
weren't actually paying for any

881
00:50:42,090 --> 00:50:45,810
of the phone calls. And then the
calls will get automatically

882
00:50:45,810 --> 00:50:48,810
connected to your home phone,
you know, with a ring and same,

883
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,960
you know, both ends ring at the
same time, a lot of really good

884
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,910
smart technology that was put in
here,

885
00:50:54,330 --> 00:50:59,760
right? Yeah, definitely. Now,
the only thing I've found kind

886
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,990
of interesting here, it seems to
me. They don't have Obama's

887
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:05,610
acceptance speech posted yet.

888
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:08,009
I don't see that either. That's
very interesting.

889
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,970
That's kind of surprising. You
think they would have a or even

890
00:51:11,970 --> 00:51:14,670
have it? The video of it or
something? They don't have any

891
00:51:14,670 --> 00:51:21,870
of it to probably too busy
getting plastered? Seriously,

892
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:27,300
I'm looking at the defence plan
that Obama has put together, if

893
00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:30,030
you think we're getting less
war, go read that?

894
00:51:30,449 --> 00:51:34,289
Well, you know, my dad used to
always say, you know, this was

895
00:51:34,289 --> 00:51:40,079
an old, you know, union guy who
was had older stereotypes of the

896
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:42,749
two parties, Democrat,
obviously, has raised a Democrat

897
00:51:42,749 --> 00:51:45,839
myself. He used to always have
this one thing. He says, you

898
00:51:45,839 --> 00:51:49,019
know, the Democrats are the war
party and the Republicans or the

899
00:51:49,019 --> 00:51:50,099
depression party.

900
00:51:52,590 --> 00:51:56,250
And Obama, Biden, and Obama
Biden administration is going to

901
00:51:56,250 --> 00:51:59,340
work in cooperation with our
allies and private sector to

902
00:51:59,340 --> 00:52:06,810
identify and protect against
emerging cyber threats. Whatever

903
00:52:06,810 --> 00:52:08,430
that means, that goes your
internet.

904
00:52:11,850 --> 00:52:13,860
Well, you know what happened in
Australia while you were

905
00:52:13,860 --> 00:52:17,130
sleeping? They, you know,
they've essentially decided that

906
00:52:17,130 --> 00:52:19,830
they're going to just censor the
whole net the way the Chinese

907
00:52:19,830 --> 00:52:20,160
do.

908
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,830
Yep. This has been this has
been, in fact, there was a

909
00:52:22,830 --> 00:52:27,660
question about that. Because we
talked about it on the show that

910
00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:32,340
we did over the weekend. And,
yeah, that's effectively the way

911
00:52:32,340 --> 00:52:35,760
China's doing it. But I've
received reports from people in

912
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,910
Finland, that say that that's
been going on in Finland for a

913
00:52:38,910 --> 00:52:41,970
long time. And there are
apparently other countries that

914
00:52:41,970 --> 00:52:47,130
we did, and people don't really
know about it, I guess. And the

915
00:52:47,130 --> 00:52:52,530
overarching question is, How
does anyone even really think

916
00:52:52,530 --> 00:52:56,550
they can? Well, there's two
questions. One is what is quote,

917
00:52:56,580 --> 00:53:00,690
illegal content. Apparently, in
Australia, they're talking about

918
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:05,550
hardcore porn, not paedophilia.
But in you know, hardcore porn.

919
00:53:06,420 --> 00:53:08,820
You know, why is that illegal?
All of a sudden, you know,

920
00:53:08,820 --> 00:53:09,780
that's my question.

921
00:53:10,380 --> 00:53:13,320
Thing is always illegal there,
or it's illegal here.

922
00:53:13,889 --> 00:53:17,609
What constitutes hardcore porn
versus regular porn? Oh, come

923
00:53:17,609 --> 00:53:18,929
on, John. Tell me what is it?

924
00:53:19,469 --> 00:53:23,219
What is it is my understanding?
I mean, it depends, I think,

925
00:53:23,489 --> 00:53:26,429
where do you draw the line?
Well, in the United States, it

926
00:53:26,429 --> 00:53:29,549
used to always be some sort of,
I forgot they had a term for it

927
00:53:29,549 --> 00:53:33,959
like locally, you know, you
determine it on a local basis.

928
00:53:33,959 --> 00:53:37,679
And you can make it you know,
this would be not hardcore in

929
00:53:37,679 --> 00:53:39,659
California, but it would be in
Tennessee.

930
00:53:40,289 --> 00:53:42,629
Come on, man. That's ridiculous.
So what you're saying is, there

931
00:53:42,629 --> 00:53:45,839
is no law there is there is no
description of what's true. It's

932
00:53:45,839 --> 00:53:49,589
hard. No, it's totally vague.
It's, it's bullshit. It's stuff

933
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:52,409
that when two people can do this
stuff together, I mean, well,

934
00:53:52,409 --> 00:53:53,789
how can that ever be illegal?

935
00:53:55,380 --> 00:53:56,310
I'm just saying.

936
00:53:57,659 --> 00:54:01,379
So yeah, so Australia, did they
actually implement it? I mean, I

937
00:54:01,379 --> 00:54:04,709
don't think it's not implemented
yet. But has it been signed into

938
00:54:04,709 --> 00:54:05,819
law now officially?

939
00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:10,410
Well, you know, the thing is, I
I don't know. I we blogged it. I

940
00:54:10,410 --> 00:54:12,930
wrote about it. And I've long
since forgot what what,

941
00:54:13,050 --> 00:54:16,530
it doesn't matter. It's coming
next to America. I guarantee it

942
00:54:16,590 --> 00:54:19,800
was coming everywhere. But the
thing that's that's kind of

943
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:24,390
interesting is the is the fact
that nobody wants to face the

944
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:28,950
reality that this isn't about
porn. Of course not. It's about

945
00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:33,210
control of content. In other
words, if you can stop you know

946
00:54:33,210 --> 00:54:35,700
if you get the systems in place
that you can stop this sort of

947
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:39,810
thing. You can now you know,
start scanning for political

948
00:54:39,810 --> 00:54:44,100
messages that might be Yeah,
like this guy. You're for

949
00:54:44,130 --> 00:54:48,150
like this show. This show will
be off the air within 10 years.

950
00:54:48,150 --> 00:54:50,370
I guarantee it. And that'll be
big. Let's

951
00:54:50,370 --> 00:54:51,210
hope to God.

952
00:54:52,350 --> 00:54:59,250
I was waiting for that. Now, so
definitely, if you listeners if

953
00:54:59,250 --> 00:55:02,070
you have a chance Because I know
a lot of you have not done it, a

954
00:55:02,070 --> 00:55:04,920
lot of you have, but go to
Barack obama.com And just look

955
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,310
at all the plans, save them,
because that is essentially what

956
00:55:08,310 --> 00:55:10,500
we'll be talking about for at
least the next four years.

957
00:55:11,550 --> 00:55:14,610
Because I know All right, I like
plans, let's run it against the

958
00:55:14,610 --> 00:55:18,450
plan. And let's see how happy we
are with a lot of it. I don't

959
00:55:18,450 --> 00:55:22,680
think we will be doubling up on
Afghanistan doubling up on home

960
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:23,550
security.

961
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,420
Well, you know, the one thing
you have to do is you have to

962
00:55:30,420 --> 00:55:34,620
say, look, this guy got elected.
Let's see, we support you. And I

963
00:55:34,620 --> 00:55:37,740
think that he's not going to do
what he says, Well,

964
00:55:38,010 --> 00:55:44,520
no, you and I think that he is a
fantastic, charismatic guy, who

965
00:55:44,610 --> 00:55:48,360
is front and centre for what I
call the shadow government. I

966
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,890
won't put you in that spot. And
that there is absolutely no this

967
00:55:52,890 --> 00:55:57,420
is a an organised plan. It's
beautifully executed. But I

968
00:55:57,420 --> 00:56:00,330
don't know if it's necessarily
going to be the best thing for

969
00:56:00,330 --> 00:56:00,900
America.

970
00:56:01,949 --> 00:56:05,009
Right? Something like that. The
point is, is that, let's see

971
00:56:05,009 --> 00:56:08,879
what you know what he can
actually accomplish. I don't

972
00:56:08,879 --> 00:56:10,649
know what he's going to
accomplish. And the other

973
00:56:10,649 --> 00:56:14,309
problem is, of course, is what
the you're the Biden formula for

974
00:56:14,429 --> 00:56:17,189
fear, which was the thing about
what someone's got bad's gonna

975
00:56:17,189 --> 00:56:20,849
happen. Yeah, January, it
wouldn't be you know, the thing

976
00:56:20,849 --> 00:56:24,149
is that there is a cycle.
There's overnight cyber, the

977
00:56:24,149 --> 00:56:28,229
cycle, but it's like the tail
kind of guys that that group,

978
00:56:28,229 --> 00:56:30,989
they really did have an eight
year thing every eight years,

979
00:56:30,989 --> 00:56:33,779
I'd like to pull some stunt. So
that would be next year

980
00:56:33,779 --> 00:56:38,939
sometime. Who knows when?
September 11. Perhaps, Oh,

981
00:56:38,939 --> 00:56:44,279
please. In fact, I would
seriously be out of the stock

982
00:56:44,279 --> 00:56:46,919
market on September 11.

983
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:48,599
How about another country?

984
00:56:50,130 --> 00:56:53,250
Yeah, this is things are like
incidents, you know, the freak

985
00:56:53,250 --> 00:56:55,350
out about it. But it's like, you
know, there's you're not touched

986
00:56:55,350 --> 00:56:58,680
by it generally. And it's the
stats are very low for being

987
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,530
affected by terrorism. And so
almost, you know, more likely to

988
00:57:01,530 --> 00:57:04,800
get hit by a safe falling from a
building. But anyway, the point

989
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,940
is, is that September 11, would
be kind of an opportune moment.

990
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:14,070
And to Jamaica point, and I
would just be out of the market,

991
00:57:14,190 --> 00:57:16,500
I would just have been cash or
something, you know, it'd be

992
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:20,040
Gordon some gold bars, or
something like that on September

993
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,640
11, of 2019. I'm just saying.
And again, I've one of the

994
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,640
things I'm still concerned about
is the Los Angeles Airport,

995
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,300
because of the fact that they
took a shot at it once before.

996
00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:32,100
And so why wouldn't they try it
again?

997
00:57:32,909 --> 00:57:36,479
Top of the list for Homeland
Security, Obama will responsibly

998
00:57:36,509 --> 00:57:40,049
end the war in Iraq focus on the
right Battlefield, which of

999
00:57:40,049 --> 00:57:43,109
course is Afghanistan says it
right there. And Obama

1000
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:45,539
administration will work with
other nations to strengthen

1001
00:57:45,539 --> 00:57:48,539
their capacity to eliminate
shared enemies, which means

1002
00:57:48,599 --> 00:57:52,409
selling them weapons. Barack
Obama and Joe Biden will improve

1003
00:57:52,409 --> 00:57:54,929
the American intelligence
apparatus by investing in its

1004
00:57:54,929 --> 00:57:58,139
capacity to collect analyse
information from us share

1005
00:57:58,139 --> 00:58:01,259
information with other agencies
carry out operations to disrupt

1006
00:58:01,259 --> 00:58:09,149
terrorist operations and
networks. They're going to owe

1007
00:58:09,149 --> 00:58:13,769
the battle of ideas. There we
go. A $2 billion global

1008
00:58:13,799 --> 00:58:16,949
education fund to work to
eliminate the Global Education

1009
00:58:16,949 --> 00:58:21,179
deficit and offer alternative to
extremist schools.

1010
00:58:23,940 --> 00:58:30,450
Oh, boy, yeah, right. Oh, boy.
That is, that's a boondoggle of

1011
00:58:30,450 --> 00:58:35,160
some sort that's gonna go in
somebody's pockets. Oh, boy. So

1012
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:41,790
anyway, and of course, somehow,
there was no message from al

1013
00:58:41,790 --> 00:58:45,300
Qaeda endorsing McCain. And

1014
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:51,450
when we waiting for some kind of
terrorist, some terrorist

1015
00:58:51,450 --> 00:58:52,110
message,

1016
00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:55,170
so they, you know, of course,
somebody there and then there

1017
00:58:55,170 --> 00:58:58,080
was a pronouncement on one of
the big news networks that

1018
00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:02,190
according to the government,
they have shut down the al Qaeda

1019
00:59:02,340 --> 00:59:05,310
desert. Just you know, when I
heard this was just an eye

1020
00:59:05,310 --> 00:59:09,690
roller. They shut down al Qaeda
has access to the internet.

1021
00:59:10,650 --> 00:59:12,060
Wow, they're so cool.

1022
00:59:13,980 --> 00:59:17,490
I'm thinking really? Shot paid
good debt.

1023
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:21,330
Yeah, because they, they went to
the guys homes, they know where

1024
00:59:21,330 --> 00:59:23,730
they live. And they just pull
the plug.

1025
00:59:24,180 --> 00:59:27,480
It seems to me that's exactly
that's, that's what you have to

1026
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,210
conclude. If they know where
these guys are. And they could

1027
00:59:30,210 --> 00:59:34,590
do that. Yeah, they just hold
them up. Yeah.

1028
00:59:34,650 --> 00:59:37,080
Oh, no, God forbid, that would
end the war on terror.

1029
00:59:38,580 --> 00:59:40,950
So I don't know what they're
thinking they're in this I think

1030
00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:43,890
this is gonna be more of the
same isn't this kind of farcical

1031
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,120
security such situation?

1032
00:59:48,869 --> 00:59:52,919
Well, listen, I was just gonna
say this is good because we now

1033
00:59:52,919 --> 00:59:56,489
have a real movement in the
United States. In fact, in some

1034
00:59:56,489 --> 00:59:59,789
to some degree a global movement
80% of Brits would have voted

1035
00:59:59,789 --> 01:00:02,969
for Barack Obama had they had we
not had that whole Tea Party

1036
01:00:02,969 --> 01:00:09,659
thing. And now we just need to
stay aware and awake and watch

1037
01:00:09,659 --> 01:00:13,709
what happens and call him on it,
you know, call him on things

1038
01:00:13,709 --> 01:00:18,359
he's promised to do. And use
that same energy, that same,

1039
01:00:18,839 --> 01:00:21,839
something that's very unique to
America to meet, you know, to

1040
01:00:21,869 --> 01:00:24,659
police this thing and make sure
that it happens and that we get

1041
01:00:24,659 --> 01:00:28,469
what we want, or hopefully a
little more than change in hope.

1042
01:00:29,610 --> 01:00:33,900
So one of the things that was
one of the kind of expert that

1043
01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:37,980
came on, if you want to call him
that, Tom DeLay was on one of

1044
01:00:37,980 --> 01:00:43,230
the shows. And he was on MSNBC
with Chris Matthews who was

1045
01:00:43,230 --> 01:00:44,190
mocking him

1046
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,640
at delay as an ex congressman.
He had no time to live. He

1047
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,280
used to be the head I think, you
know, he's he was a big shot in

1048
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,520
Congress, and he was been
indicted in Texas and he's he's

1049
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,530
a creepy looking kind of a
corrupted

1050
01:00:56,850 --> 01:00:59,310
Enron related as well. Wasn't
there some shit with him going

1051
01:00:59,310 --> 01:00:59,580
on there?

1052
01:00:59,580 --> 01:01:03,480
Yeah. Could be. Yeah, probably.
Texas. Yeah, makes sense. But

1053
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,960
anyway, to delay now, he's, uh,
you know, he's, he retired and

1054
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,440
he's like, now he shows up once
in a while to take potshots,

1055
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:13,080
which, you know, I admire
personally, I think I like to

1056
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,600
listen to these guys that are,
you know, taking a shot from the

1057
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,920
outside. And he says that the
real situation is going to

1058
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:24,090
evolve. Because the Democrats
have got the house they've got

1059
01:01:24,090 --> 01:01:26,850
the Senate, they got the
executive offices is going to be

1060
01:01:26,850 --> 01:01:31,890
a battle of wills between Nancy
Pelosi and Obama, as to who's

1061
01:01:31,890 --> 01:01:38,760
going to be the dog on top. And,
and I, you know, I think and

1062
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,120
he's in he went on and on about
it. And it made nothing but

1063
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,000
sense to me, but But Chris
Matthews thinks that, you know,

1064
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,880
he was thinking that everything
is going to be hunky dory, and

1065
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:53,220
he called delay a hater for even
suggesting such a thing could

1066
01:01:53,250 --> 01:01:57,390
could could evolve. But it
actually made some sense to me

1067
01:01:57,390 --> 01:01:59,580
that something like that would
happen. Because, you know, I

1068
01:01:59,580 --> 01:02:01,980
think, you know, if anyone's
going to try to push around

1069
01:02:01,980 --> 01:02:04,530
Obama, I don't think it's gonna
be some foreign leader right out

1070
01:02:04,530 --> 01:02:08,820
of the chute. I think it's going
to be, you know, Nancy Pelosi,

1071
01:02:09,300 --> 01:02:11,220
and her, you know, minions

1072
01:02:11,699 --> 01:02:15,719
Oh, no, you didn't know that.
They're they're totally

1073
01:02:15,719 --> 01:02:21,149
controllable. They're not a
control Pelosi got no problem

1074
01:02:21,149 --> 01:02:24,059
with that they got her to run
the whole bailout programme that

1075
01:02:24,059 --> 01:02:25,529
she did great on that for them.

1076
01:02:26,070 --> 01:02:29,190
Yeah, for them. But you know, it
was Obama gonna play ball. Oh,

1077
01:02:29,670 --> 01:02:32,070
dude, of course here. Here's
another one that I liked this,

1078
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:35,730
Barack Obama will appoint a
deputy national security adviser

1079
01:02:36,180 --> 01:02:39,420
to be in charge of coordinating
all US programmes aimed at

1080
01:02:39,420 --> 01:02:42,060
reducing the risk of nuclear
terrorism and weapons

1081
01:02:42,060 --> 01:02:47,730
proliferation. We're gonna get
all kinds of people in. And, and

1082
01:02:47,730 --> 01:02:50,610
Pelosi, they totally know how to
control her. It's the same

1083
01:02:50,610 --> 01:02:53,160
people. Why would you think that
the people who

1084
01:02:53,159 --> 01:02:56,069
are your people, your Brzezinski
group? Oh,

1085
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,080
it's logical Wall Street.

1086
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,200
I'm not absolutely sure that
there's only you know, that

1087
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,960
there's not competing groups
here. You you kind of think that

1088
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,950
there's a unified shadow
government. Yes. That has got

1089
01:03:07,950 --> 01:03:10,560
you know that they have a
meeting every once in a

1090
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,130
while. They do what's called the
Bilderberg Group. Yeah, they do.

1091
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:14,760
Yeah, there

1092
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,730
we go. And I heard this stuff in
the 60s. Anyway. And

1093
01:03:17,730 --> 01:03:22,620
again, you and your generation,
let that shit go in the 60s. And

1094
01:03:22,620 --> 01:03:25,410
now we have to clean it up.
Thank you very much. Yes,

1095
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,810
exactly. You've been hearing it
for that long. That's how long

1096
01:03:27,810 --> 01:03:28,710
it was. It's been older

1097
01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:33,600
than it is bowl. Now. These are
drinking clubs. So here, but

1098
01:03:34,350 --> 01:03:37,440
that's how it works. What do you
think lobbyists are the drinking

1099
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:43,080
clubs or in clubs? It's too late
for you for the for the to hear

1100
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,520
this from me, isn't it? You
can't

1101
01:03:44,550 --> 01:03:52,320
we'll see. We can. I just didn't
go to bed. But listening to

1102
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,500
this, you know, as I'm not we'll
see. Let's just see how it plays

1103
01:03:55,500 --> 01:03:57,390
out. I'm guaranteeing you
there's going to be some fights

1104
01:03:57,390 --> 01:04:00,840
going on between these just to
see who's going to take credit

1105
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,270
for all the changes that are
going to you know,

1106
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,930
everyone, everyone's going to be
taking credit. Everyone is going

1107
01:04:06,930 --> 01:04:10,110
to be saying we said we'd give
you change, here's change.

1108
01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:13,590
Yeah, then the change is going
to be what is going to be left

1109
01:04:13,590 --> 01:04:14,220
in your pocket

1110
01:04:14,219 --> 01:04:19,619
at changes change for your
dollar. Thank you very much.

1111
01:04:19,949 --> 01:04:21,719
Want to change? Here's your
change.

1112
01:04:22,770 --> 01:04:25,230
All right. All right, John, I'm
gonna let you go to sleep. I

1113
01:04:25,230 --> 01:04:28,350
think we could talk for a long,
long time still.

1114
01:04:28,380 --> 01:04:30,690
Yeah. I don't know that we
contributed anything to the

1115
01:04:30,690 --> 01:04:33,750
conversation for the our
listeners who wanted us to do

1116
01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:37,080
something after this thing, but
I guess a few of them will get a

1117
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:37,710
kick out of it.

1118
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,100
Well, and of course, what most
will say is hey, wait a minute,

1119
01:04:41,130 --> 01:04:46,200
you guys. John. You guys
predicted McCain would win? How

1120
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:47,700
about conceding on

1121
01:04:47,700 --> 01:04:52,200
that? Well, you know, I was
really I was trying. I was

1122
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,120
thinking about that because I've
been pretty good at this. But

1123
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,220
you know, what happened is
somebody pointed out I mean,

1124
01:04:56,220 --> 01:04:59,160
McCain walked into a buzzsaw. I
mean, you had the economy

1125
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,880
collapse you had The financial
crisis, everyone hated bush. I

1126
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,370
mean, there was no way this
guy's gonna win if the things

1127
01:05:05,370 --> 01:05:09,330
were going the way they were two
years ago when I made my

1128
01:05:09,330 --> 01:05:13,140
prediction. And I will tell you,
again what it was, you may have

1129
01:05:13,140 --> 01:05:16,860
heard it. Two years ago, I
predicted that Hillary would run

1130
01:05:16,860 --> 01:05:20,160
as president and Obama would run
as vice president and McCain

1131
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:24,360
would run as president. And with
the Vice President, being mayor

1132
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,510
of New York Giuliani, which at
the time made a lot of sense,

1133
01:05:27,570 --> 01:05:30,390
Giuliani obviously was blown out
because he was he couldn't do

1134
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:34,380
this. And then they flipped, the
other ones flipped over. So Joe

1135
01:05:34,380 --> 01:05:36,810
Obama ended up with the thing
who knew this, that was going to

1136
01:05:36,810 --> 01:05:38,700
happen, and it was gonna get on
the ticket, I didn't think was

1137
01:05:38,700 --> 01:05:42,150
gonna be the top guy. He didn't
take Hillary got rid of her. So

1138
01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:45,120
essentially, so we have to still
pretty much close to my

1139
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,510
prediction two years later, but
that flipped again. And Obama

1140
01:05:48,510 --> 01:05:51,810
and his Merry Men, you know,
just blew me out of the water. I

1141
01:05:51,810 --> 01:05:54,600
thought it was since I was so
far out on this at least I

1142
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,120
should get some credit for
coming damn close.

1143
01:05:57,630 --> 01:06:01,380
No, you get zero credit. In
fact, in fact, I need to hear

1144
01:06:01,380 --> 01:06:04,080
you say you were wrong, because
you still haven't actually

1145
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:04,740
admitted it.

1146
01:06:06,540 --> 01:06:10,260
I was wrong. There you go. That
was wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Who

1147
01:06:10,260 --> 01:06:13,470
knew? Yeah. Well, I actually had
said admit to how wrong I was,

1148
01:06:13,470 --> 01:06:18,360
was the following. I had told
people that Obama was not

1149
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:19,350
electable.

1150
01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:24,570
Yes, that's right. Now you said
an Obama Hillary ticket would be

1151
01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:25,440
unelectable.

1152
01:06:26,489 --> 01:06:29,519
Right. But I also said both that
but but at the same time, if you

1153
01:06:29,519 --> 01:06:32,939
did, anyone else was listening
to my blather, would have heard

1154
01:06:32,939 --> 01:06:36,359
me say that Obama was an
electable and Hillary wasn't

1155
01:06:36,359 --> 01:06:39,209
electable. And it would be
doubly bad if they ran together

1156
01:06:39,209 --> 01:06:41,909
on the same ticket. And I still
think that might have been true.

1157
01:06:41,909 --> 01:06:44,399
And as maybe the Obama people
thought that that's why they

1158
01:06:44,399 --> 01:06:47,609
didn't want her. But whatever
the case is, they did everything

1159
01:06:47,609 --> 01:06:50,579
right. And that was dead, dead
wrong on all of it.

1160
01:06:51,060 --> 01:06:53,520
That goes our credibility. No,

1161
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:54,900
we don't have any credibility.

1162
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:56,850
We don't know anything about
nothing.

1163
01:06:58,409 --> 01:07:01,289
We don't need credibility, just
to sit there and shoot the shit.

1164
01:07:01,319 --> 01:07:01,679
Oh, that's

1165
01:07:01,679 --> 01:07:04,979
it credibility. We don't need no
stinking credibility.

1166
01:07:05,639 --> 01:07:09,149
But anyway, I still think I came
closer than most people did at

1167
01:07:09,149 --> 01:07:13,589
that with a long shot from a
long distance. But you know,

1168
01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:17,549
hey, I still lost a bunch of
bets. And I want one bet,

1169
01:07:17,549 --> 01:07:22,859
though. Which I've Well, friend
of mine, you know, I'm John

1170
01:07:22,859 --> 01:07:25,919
Markoff of The New York Times.
I've been beating him on these

1171
01:07:25,919 --> 01:07:31,049
election bets for like, I don't
know, 1520 years. And he seemed

1172
01:07:31,199 --> 01:07:33,869
he was he knew what the bet was
going to be, which was, you

1173
01:07:33,869 --> 01:07:36,899
know, me taking McCain and he
refused to do that bet in

1174
01:07:36,899 --> 01:07:41,699
insisted on on reversing the
bat, really. So he took McCain

1175
01:07:42,029 --> 01:07:44,879
with the with the thing that he
couldn't be depressed under any

1176
01:07:44,879 --> 01:07:49,259
circumstances, because if, you
know, McCain, one, you know, he

1177
01:07:49,259 --> 01:07:55,499
would get the $100 from me. And
if McCain or Obama one, he would

1178
01:07:55,499 --> 01:08:01,799
give me the $100 and still be
happy. Logic we're dealing with

1179
01:08:01,799 --> 01:08:02,699
here with the New York Times.

1180
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,220
The New York Times, there you
go.

1181
01:08:06,810 --> 01:08:11,010
So he, he lost the bat, he
actually voted for him, or bet

1182
01:08:11,010 --> 01:08:15,750
on McCain. But he did it,
knowing that he can't beat me on

1183
01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:18,930
a bet. And so he reversed the
whole thing. And he may actually

1184
01:08:18,930 --> 01:08:21,180
be the reason I've been winning
all these bets for all these

1185
01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:25,230
years, because whatever he does
is always, always wrong. always

1186
01:08:25,230 --> 01:08:30,000
wrong. So. So I got 100 bucks
from him. So although these are

1187
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:34,230
just these aren't real wagers
for anyone listening. It's a

1188
01:08:34,230 --> 01:08:35,010
virtual 100

1189
01:08:35,190 --> 01:08:44,250
Oh, really? No. I bet bloomed
the 70 to 86 by February 14.

1190
01:08:45,450 --> 01:08:47,310
But 7270

1191
01:08:47,550 --> 01:08:51,060
Doubt dow 70 to 86. By February
14.

1192
01:08:52,170 --> 01:08:54,540
He took that over he took the
there's not going to happen.

1193
01:08:54,570 --> 01:08:58,260
Yeah. Hon, it's

1194
01:08:58,260 --> 01:08:59,910
interesting that that's
interesting bet because there

1195
01:08:59,910 --> 01:09:02,820
was a foundation number that's
around 7200 somewhere that where

1196
01:09:02,820 --> 01:09:05,730
the thing actually could do
that. I mean, the market could

1197
01:09:05,730 --> 01:09:09,510
go there well wouldn't go much
below now. Based on what all

1198
01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:13,710
these experts say. I don't think
it's going to do it. I think

1199
01:09:13,710 --> 01:09:16,830
it's going to stabilise or you
know, within the next week or

1200
01:09:16,830 --> 01:09:18,630
two and it's starting to creep
up well

1201
01:09:18,660 --> 01:09:21,930
it potentially all of this could
be really really good because

1202
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:26,220
first of all people are feeling
good if the market again, it

1203
01:09:26,220 --> 01:09:31,860
looks like it will open down
this morning. But if the market

1204
01:09:32,490 --> 01:09:35,100
continues to hold out for a
while we can have a nice

1205
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:37,860
Christmas people will spend a
little bit more you know, we're

1206
01:09:37,860 --> 01:09:40,380
feeling better. We know those
checks are coming in the mail.

1207
01:09:40,590 --> 01:09:43,950
So we're going to spend 1000
bucks on presents for our kids

1208
01:09:43,950 --> 01:09:47,070
that's going to help the economy
in general that could be a nice

1209
01:09:47,070 --> 01:09:48,120
little spark.

1210
01:09:50,130 --> 01:09:52,560
Yeah, no, I think that's what
everyone thinks is gonna happen.

1211
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,050
I think is gonna happen. I think
that is what's going to happen

1212
01:09:55,050 --> 01:09:59,970
but I actually based on my I
gotta get this material finish.

1213
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,510
Shortly based on my big picture
of the way I see things going, I

1214
01:10:06,510 --> 01:10:09,810
think that it's not going to do
a Dipsy do here. I think it's

1215
01:10:09,810 --> 01:10:14,070
going to build a base start to
take off. Obama is going to do

1216
01:10:14,070 --> 01:10:16,230
some good things, some things
are going to look better. Maybe

1217
01:10:16,230 --> 01:10:18,930
we can get us out of Iraq, which
would be interesting. I don't

1218
01:10:18,930 --> 01:10:20,190
think so. But anyway,

1219
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,310
straight out of Iraq into
Afghanistan, he says it right

1220
01:10:23,310 --> 01:10:25,680
there is going to double up the
efforts in Afghanistan,

1221
01:10:25,710 --> 01:10:27,630
well, maybe you should get us
out of Iraq, but whatever the

1222
01:10:27,630 --> 01:10:30,000
case is, it'll change the
financing of the whole thing.

1223
01:10:30,300 --> 01:10:35,190
And next thing, you know, you
might get a big burst at the end

1224
01:10:35,190 --> 01:10:38,880
of the year, which would be
ideally, take his Well, ideally,

1225
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:43,260
is a bad thing, but it could
crash big time. After running up

1226
01:10:43,260 --> 01:10:46,860
to 25,000 30,000 something like
that. I'm thinking a doubt

1227
01:10:46,860 --> 01:10:50,790
25,000. And I'd be actually, my
bet is that the Dow is going to

1228
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:56,220
hit I guess 15 I have a specific
bet with a broker friend, I

1229
01:10:56,220 --> 01:11:02,130
think 1000 15,000 before it hits
six, wow. That I think it's

1230
01:11:02,130 --> 01:11:02,730
gonna use

1231
01:11:03,210 --> 01:11:04,530
to the upside. Wow,

1232
01:11:04,740 --> 01:11:07,170
that's not as good to know. But
that's what that's just that for

1233
01:11:07,170 --> 01:11:10,440
that bet. My personal belief is
that when the Dow takes off,

1234
01:11:10,440 --> 01:11:13,500
it's going to hit 25 or 30,000.
God, when

1235
01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:14,580
is this taking place?

1236
01:11:14,850 --> 01:11:16,710
I bet he could happen next year.

1237
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:21,450
25,000. We didn't I mean, that's
astronomical, John.

1238
01:11:23,010 --> 01:11:27,060
Just make a note? Well, I always
say if you're they don't believe

1239
01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:29,310
in you, if people don't believe
it's gonna hit 25,000, that's

1240
01:11:29,310 --> 01:11:32,100
fine. But if it does, my advice
is to get out

1241
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,940
at around 25 of the house. I'm
taking profits there.

1242
01:11:38,490 --> 01:11:41,490
You have to remember that in
that during the 1929 crash, we

1243
01:11:41,490 --> 01:11:46,410
had a very similar situation, as
we have economically. Now, in

1244
01:11:46,410 --> 01:11:49,800
fact, you should look at Bank
for banks falling apart back

1245
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:56,100
then. The Dow Jones essentially
tripled during the year 1929.

1246
01:11:56,100 --> 01:11:59,040
And it did it pretty much within
about three years go through I'm

1247
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,850
sorry, three month period, it
tripled, completely tripled.

1248
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,120
That means it would go from
10,000 to 30,000. There's no

1249
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,100
reason to can't do it again.
Wow.

1250
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,750
You're right. And then and then
we'll make all that money on our

1251
01:12:12,750 --> 01:12:18,330
index funds. And then what then
it goes down to six 6000 We're

1252
01:12:18,330 --> 01:12:21,600
screwed, and then the money
becomes worthless.

1253
01:12:22,020 --> 01:12:24,660
Now that could happen. I mean,
do you never know what's gonna

1254
01:12:24,660 --> 01:12:26,670
happen? These things don't never
happen the same way twice.

1255
01:12:26,670 --> 01:12:30,300
That's the real problem. They're
always a little skewed. But

1256
01:12:30,779 --> 01:12:33,779
that's what makes life
interesting. Well,

1257
01:12:34,350 --> 01:12:37,950
it makes it Yeah, I guess. But
anyway, so I'm, you know, I

1258
01:12:37,950 --> 01:12:40,560
could be wrong, this good might
not happen. It might, we might

1259
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,050
just have kind of a bouncing
market. And you know, think by

1260
01:12:43,050 --> 01:12:45,480
2013. I'm guaranteeing we're
having we're going to be in the

1261
01:12:45,480 --> 01:12:50,940
middle of a depression. My next
long term gamble.

1262
01:12:51,119 --> 01:12:55,289
I'm looking at your, your market
watch column about how to abama

1263
01:12:55,289 --> 01:13:01,169
proof your portfolio. Yeah, I
like this line. While I normally

1264
01:13:01,169 --> 01:13:04,049
do not like using anonymous
sources. I have to in this

1265
01:13:04,049 --> 01:13:06,479
instance, for personal and
political reasons. This advice

1266
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,659
comes from a Forbes 100 richest
investor friend who is risk

1267
01:13:09,659 --> 01:13:12,689
averse, and has been thinking
about Obama proofing his

1268
01:13:12,689 --> 01:13:15,419
portfolio. So you know that this
is going to drive me nuts,

1269
01:13:15,419 --> 01:13:16,889
right? I got to figure out who
it is.

1270
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:20,220
You know, after this show's
over, you'll figure it out. I'll

1271
01:13:20,220 --> 01:13:21,180
tell you who it is.

1272
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,750
Man, I want to figure it out.
Don't Don't don't Okay, for me.

1273
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:27,300
I want you to figure it out. And
if I but if I nail it on the

1274
01:13:27,300 --> 01:13:29,280
show, will you admit it in the
show or you're not going to do

1275
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:29,460
that?

1276
01:13:29,490 --> 01:13:34,710
No. And I don't think it's a
good idea. Okay. All right. But

1277
01:13:34,710 --> 01:13:39,060
enough about Larry Ellison.
haven't talked to Larry for a

1278
01:13:39,060 --> 01:13:40,860
long time. So it's definitely
not Yeah,

1279
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,190
I'm just throwing that out. Man.
I was at his house, though. I

1280
01:13:44,190 --> 01:13:48,150
know you were I know you were
his hotel room. The hotel room.

1281
01:13:49,860 --> 01:13:51,450
At John. Listen, man, you gotta
go to bed.

1282
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,450
Have a meeting tomorrow? Well,
we

1283
01:13:54,450 --> 01:13:58,080
both have a meeting. I got the
same meeting except I get to

1284
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:04,260
stay up and that starts at 530
this afternoon. My time. You

1285
01:14:04,260 --> 01:14:07,020
really gotta get used to this
Coastal Living. My friend.

1286
01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:09,330
bicoastal.

1287
01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:13,170
Me just called me calling the
meeting. Now you

1288
01:14:13,170 --> 01:14:16,830
should go. It's a good one. It's
an all hands meeting. We've

1289
01:14:16,830 --> 01:14:17,850
changed the name now.

1290
01:14:18,209 --> 01:14:21,839
Yeah, no, I got all hands. All
hands on deck. All hands on

1291
01:14:21,839 --> 01:14:23,279
deck. Man. That's exactly

1292
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:29,760
what it is. All hands on deck.
Now be good. All right. So I

1293
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,830
would appreciate if we could
still do a show on Saturday,

1294
01:14:31,830 --> 01:14:34,740
even though we kind of got a
little bit deeper than just

1295
01:14:34,740 --> 01:14:37,020
Obama this morning or this
evening for you.

1296
01:14:37,050 --> 01:14:39,210
We could probably do a show on
Saturday. If if it depends on

1297
01:14:39,210 --> 01:14:40,920
what our listeners want.

1298
01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:45,960
Okay, let us know. That's such a
dumb thing to say.

1299
01:14:47,820 --> 01:14:49,230
And Send your email to

1300
01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:55,350
john@dvorak.org All right.
That's it everyone for this post

1301
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:59,220
election. No agenda coming to
you from the United Kingdom. My

1302
01:14:59,220 --> 01:15:00,270
name is Adam Kirk. Right.

1303
01:15:00,690 --> 01:15:03,570
I'm John C. Dvorak in northern
Silicon Valley. And we'll talk

1304
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,970
again next week right here on no
agenda.