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Two times in one week, we can go
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Coming to you from the eastern
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known as gizmo nation now
abomination in the United

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Kingdom. I'm Adam curry.

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And in northern Silicon Valley,
I'm John C. Dvorak.

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John, how you doing? Good. Two
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amazing.

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Yeah, we could probably do a
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before.

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I was just thinking about that
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we just had a phone bridge set
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problem is just where we are at
any given moment, but we should

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certainly be able to do
something once a day.

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Yeah, we should. So it looks
like the election, State Senate.

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In fact, by the way, state
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Denver. Okay.

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I have not been following this
election.

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Yeah, they candidate bacon. Beat
fries.

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Yes, I saw the picture. That was
very funny. Bacon beats fries.

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Man doesn't get any nuttier than
that. Actually. It does.

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Actually. I called you
yesterday, man. I said, Did you

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actually I called you while I
was taking place. I wanted to

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watch it with you. The first
press conference by our

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president elect.

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Yeah, I got to see some excerpts
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was a press conference. And

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no, it wasn't it was a scripted
hootenanny. And did you see

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Axelrod leaning against the wall
the whole time? Campaign?

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Yeah. Now,

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I'm sorry. Go ahead. He's there
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the sergeant at arms and punish
anyone who disobeyed.

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Exactly. It was like Obama. Guy
is so good at reading off of his

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his notes. He just glances down.
And he's real, real comfortable

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with doing it. And I paid a lot
of tension to it. And so he did

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the whole thing yesterday, I
think pretty much just from his

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notes, no teleprompter. I didn't
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came to the questions, you know,
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like the President's like to do
Yeah, go ahead, Helen. Yeah.

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Troy, you couldn't say something
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paid specific attention to it.
He was looking down his paper.

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And one point he even said, let
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Bill, your next. And you know,
didn't call on any heavyweights?

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Like the Washington Times or
didn't call on Fox News that was

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pointed out? I saw earlier
today. It was it was like

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scripted questions, scripted
answers. And he from time to

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time, he would actually look
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Yeah, it seemed like he was
looking down a lot to answer the

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question. She said that was
peculiar. Of course, the media

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didn't call him on this. And you
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away with it. Let's say I'm
Axelrod and I said, Look, why

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don't we just script the whole
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want and see what happens. I
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George Bush pulled a stunt like
this to immediately be all

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over it crazy, yelling, they'd
be so angry.

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Yeah. But now these guys are all
in in bed with him.

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What? What was pretty funny is
that he spent the most time

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answering the question about the
White House dog.

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Yeah, you might as well
trivialise the whole thing. Some

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listen to one of the right wing
talk shows in the sky,

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Breitbart, who was doing this
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his website, and he got he was
proud of the fact that he and I

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just thought was hilarious. He
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it's Barack Obama and

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Barack Obama.

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Like, because you know, he's
always going, you know, he's

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saying all the time. So it's now
Bama. I do that on to the guy.

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No, but you don't have the name.
Curry. Adam curry, Adam curry.

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From the what I loved about
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Financial Times Weekend Edition.
I haven't read it yet. But I'm

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just looking at the front page,
the homepage as we call it.

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There we go. We're over a Barack
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Barack Obama at this press
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the sign the office of the
president elect that's just too

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funny.

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just it's not there's no real
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office or elect? That's that's
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presidential seal. Oh, man. What
a show what an what an amazing

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show. And have you seen these
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team? Did you see these people?

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Yeah, they're all a bunch of you
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Hell yeah, they're there that
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change,

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you know? And ROM, what's his
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This guy he's guy looks mean.
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you know, he reminds me of a all
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He does have an evil look. Yeah,
it's totally

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evil look, and I believe that in
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they were saying, Oh, this
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in the white house, because he's
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fought in the Israeli forces. Or
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served. He quit his job,
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was also, interestingly enough,
on the board of directors of,

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I'm gonna say Fannie Mae in
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of humongous scandal about
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losing track of trillions of
dollars, and this guy has been

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around for a while. This is no
change. Yeah, it's a change back

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to back to

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back to the worst

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good times. This guy, they call
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Yeah, yeah. And he's gonna run
things. Oh, yeah. Because isn't

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because this is very Nixonian,
this, this group is bringing in

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his almost like, Give me a
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And anyways, we'll be Richard
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And look at all that, because
this is what we were talking

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about on Wednesday. Look at all
the names that are popping up

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who's going to be Secretary of
the Treasury. And they've got

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guys who have all been, you
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former Federal Reserve guys fed
New York firm, a former Treasury

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Secretary, Secretary, they're
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of New Jersey who worked as CEO.
And guess what, Goldman Sachs.

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And this is not this is, and
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takeaway. This is a big this is
the big cover up moment. While

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everyone's living in euphoria,
and we're taking our eye off the

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ball temporarily. All this shit
is taking place. All kinds of

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stuff happening right now.

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Well, now in in Obama's defence
if you remember, when Carter was

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a well, you probably don't,
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can now I don't know, when
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did. I think maybe Clinton when
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these, you know, let's bring in
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we can shake up Washington kind
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miserably, because they don't
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Obama's not making the mistake
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amateurs that that can be pushed
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Rahm Emanuel that he's not going
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the people that they do. They
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with intimidating people and
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you know, they may need that
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the I'm just I'm just a little
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and what I'm hearing and what
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yeah, well, the ideas are
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Thank you. I guess that's what
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there, that's not gonna work
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But a lot of this crap, like the
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Imagery is really getting on my
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I did appreciate the change.gov
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really, really good. It's a
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extension of the brand beyond
belief. Right? Really, really

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smart.

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Yeah, as if anyone's going to
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probably, you know, 100 million
suggestions they're gonna get

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from every dingbat in the
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Oh, it's gonna be, you know, a
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feedback mechanism. But, you
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being transparent, it's a good
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hope God gov wins that message,
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That'd be a cool site. hope.gov.

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So I'm watching Bill Maher, who
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know, his pre 911 You know,
hateful self. It's amazing. He

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did. I mean, he like when you
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going on about calling the
Americans cowards. And actually,

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he said something different at
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so spot on. He said. The
terrorists were actually very,

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very brave to fly to believe so.

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I know what he said. But I

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will tell people because it's
good to remind of John gimmes.

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but it was at the moment it
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know, his wording it was his
intent. Well, we'll have me

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because I saw him do it. I
watched that show. I watched it,

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too. I saw I saw it too. And I
had a meet he was extremely mean

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spirited about the whole thing.
He was angry. And he was angry

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at the United States for sending
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you know, Afghanistan or
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And he's right.

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I think that's what we shouldn't
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Afghanistan. At the time

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Yeah, absolutely. Dryer glow.
I'm not kidding you. What do you

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think we're supposed to do walk
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But what are we doing over
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anything over here. We've we've
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all their countries a million
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No, I don't think they did it.
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that were essentially keeping
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I just, I just don't buy it. I
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lot about the Taliban. I don't
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saying right now. I want to keep
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I have. I have no problem taking
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we should remember, I remember
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that's where I turned in for all
my worldly news is Tech TV. No,

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they were doing

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a story. Because they did have a
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about this is just after the
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Buddhist icons that were carved
into the mountains when you

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were so offended, it's like,
Let's go bomb those people

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because they blew up.

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You wanted me to finish? So and
then they you know, they had

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banned you know, meanwhile, Omar
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banned kite flying. He they were
executing women in the soccer

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stadium and most of the stuff
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so there's they were gonna run
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complimentary toward the
Taliban. And I talked what to

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the news director says you can't
do this. And I read them to kind

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of, you know, there's this
laundry list of shit that these

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guys were doing. And you know,
like family, I'm thinking

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nobody's paying any attention to
this stuff. These guys are a

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terrible people, generally
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no, I wasn't concerned at all
when they when they threw a few

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cruise missiles at him.

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When 911 came up, none of it

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And okay, well, then you're just
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Oh, well.

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That's, that's horrible. I
totally disagree with what what

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is it? It's not our business to
be. Okay. So they've they're

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fucked up. That's their problem,
but then deal with it.

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They had bin Laden? You didn't
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We wouldn't know about Bin Laden
pre 911. They did too. Oh, John,

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if they really did, then 911
wouldn't have taken place? Or

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the whole thing is bullshit.
Ergo, your argument is bullshit

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about them having 911. Bin
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Yeah, I'm not I'm not buying
your gear, you know, you're kind

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of is it skews off the road? You
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with your notion that there's
some sort of deeper conspiracy?

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It doesn't doesn't go off the
road at all. We're not talking

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about that. I'm saying

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that we think we should have
done nothing in Afghanistan.

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If if the Taliban is causing a
problem in in their own in their

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own country in their own region?
What, what, what benefit does it

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give us to go over there and
start to kick people around and

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set him straight? What benefit?

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So you think we do shouldn't
have gotten into Afghanistan?

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There's, there's no try to get
bin Laden and straighten those

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guys out.

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Trying to get bin Laden is
different than than lobbing a

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few cruise missiles over, okay.
That's different. If you want to

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go get bin Laden, then you get
your delta forces or whatever,

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and go find him. I mean, it's
not it is not impossible. And we

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have the largest military and
secret military operation in the

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world. And we can't find one guy
come on,

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didn't you read the Atlantic?
Monthly material and the fact of

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the CIA and all that type of
operation was guided largely

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during the Clinton
administration and Bush hasn't,

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you know, they were just Bush
couldn't reestablish that stuff,

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because you just got there. I
don't think the CIA or I don't

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think any of these people have
the ability to do what you

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described. At that point.

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We'll go okay, then we don't do
it. End of story. I'm sorry.

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Hey, you know, you there's trade
sanctions, you can invoke you

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can the President come out and
can come down

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tonight so your basic basically
a justice not vengeance guy.

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No, no, what's the vengeance? If
you're saying first you say the

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Taliban was bad. And I say, Oh,
we have to throw cruise missiles

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over? Well, they were hiding bin
Laden. Same thing. We got to

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throw cruise missiles over well,
we didn't have the CIA had been

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gutted. So we got to throw
cruise missiles over

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at OSHA. But then what would you
what should we have done?

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Nothing? Nothing is what you're
saying?

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No, nothing. I'd have done
absolutely nothing. Yeah,

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there was a really interesting
article written in the London

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Times by one of the professor's
I think, one of them sorry,

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if I was actually President, I
would have had to do something

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because hey, they were they
were, of course, and this is why

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it actually took place. Our drug
supply is over there, which the

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government is importing into the
United States and Western

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Europe. So of course, that's why
we threw in some Kruseman This

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was to go kick their ass and
say, Hey, we're taking over the

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drug trade. We're the new Big
Boss in town. At that point,

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when we went into Afghanistan in
2003, or four, whatever it is,

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the Taliban had actually reduced
the poppy fields down to almost

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zero. Now they're back up to
full precast capacity plus,

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that's what that's what that's
for, not to go find bin Laden.

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So you think the whole thing was
just a ruse to get to get our

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supply of heroin back up to
snuff

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and indirectly to maintain the
support of our economy? Yes,

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absolutely. The drug trade is
the drug money is a big part of

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our economy, which is Wall
Street, which is where it all

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goes, yes.

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So what else is going on?

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I'm in a bad mood.

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Thank you.

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This is what pissed me off. So
Patricia is doing her show.

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She's doing a double shot. She
did Friday night last night.

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Once again, number one in the
time slot, even larger audience

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than last week. And she can be
entered to, to milk it to suck

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the teat and to bash the
competition. They're now doing a

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second show on Saturday night.
Which, which puts her out for a

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couple days. So I'm home with a
teenager my my 18 year old

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daughter who let's face it, you
know, I'm on the road a lot. I

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don't see all the time. We had a
nice meal. The other night we

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went out to dinner, but I don't
mind her boyfriend staying over

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which he doesn't. She didn't ask
because you know, he just came

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in and he's staying over. But
then in the morning when she has

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to get up to go to work. And
I've been working until 2am

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doing video shit, she knows it.
And her boyfriend has stayed

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over. And the smoke alarm goes
off at eight o'clock. And

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because she's cooking up a whole
breakfast in bed for this guy. I

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like the guy Dexter. She's
cooking up a whole breakfast in

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bed, which she's never done for
me once in 18 years, never ever.

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And then I go downstairs. The
whole kitchen is a mess. She

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didn't she couldn't even have
the courtesy to clean out the

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dishwasher and put the dirty
shit she just created for her

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boyfriend back in and they drank
all the orange juice, which was

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a brand new bottle of orange
juice didn't leave me one drop.

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I'm so sick and tired of it. Ah.

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So because of this, you're now
on the side of the Taliban.

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I'm no would you watch wash your
mouth out with soap John C.

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Dvorak. Don't say those things.
Of course, I'm not on the side

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of the Taliban. I'm against all
evil, which includes throwing

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bombs at people just dumb inlets
unless they throw a bomb at you

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first, and then we go kick their
ass. That's different.

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So what did you tell her? Did
you get mad or did you just

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sulk?

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I know I got mad. And actually,
my voice started to crack.

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That's how mad I was. Wow. Well,
because she gives me this

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attitude. Don't do it. When I
come home from work. You have

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time to sit on Facebook, bake
your boyfriend breakfast in bed,

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and you don't have time to do
the dishwasher. Pass you treat

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the place like a hotel. Now I
know why Patricia is complaining

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all the time. So now I have to
deal with it. That's the whole

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point. So

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I'm like running into a bit of a
dish. It's like, gotta go.

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Gotta go. Patricia. Gotta go.
Oh, man. It's like I'm running

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in fucking bed and breakfast
here and I'm cleaning up crap.

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No, actually, here's here's
where it all started. I'm really

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mad. So I work I'm working for
like 14 hours in the city is

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almost a two hour commute to
come back these days. You know,

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taxi, train taxi that you take a
car you take the tube doesn't

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matter. It's all the same. It's
always two hours. So I'm two I'm

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in a cab at six o'clock. And I'd
asked her one thing one thing

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when you come home from school,
please feed the animals let them

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out. That's all one thing. And
she was home at four. And then

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when she was gonna go out to a
party with a with a boyfriend at

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eight so all this time, she
calls me Oh, Daddy, I locked

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myself out. I was gonna go get
something a Dexter's and my keys

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inside and how do I get in? So
well? How do you get in you wait

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until them homes, you know? So
I'm running. I'm running through

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Waterloo Station. I'm out of
breath. You know to catch the

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catch a train that goes 20
minutes earlier. I'm riding home

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I'm texting her um, yeah, I'll
be there in 30 minutes. I'm at

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the station. I'm around the
corner. She's not texting me

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back. You know, so I'm running
and I've come in i all her shits

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on the floor. The minute I walk
in the door I'm literally

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falling over it. She hasn't fed
the dog she was there for four

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hours. It hadn't fed the dog
didn't let him out the I know

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the key was still out of the
door. I mean all of this. I'm

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just getting so angry and then
she doesn't. And I text her

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she's not calling me back. She's
not texting me back because

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turns out she was busy doing her
boyfriend's makeup for for the

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costume party. I need this you
as a as a mature father with the

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children of multiple, multiple
whatever you got, like 29 kids

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from three wives. It does this
sound familiar to you? Sounds

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par for the course. What am I
doing wrong? Nothing. Oh, no,

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no, that's not Hello. Sorry.
What am I doing? Hello? Is this

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on? I want to make sure you can
hear me. So that's it, huh?

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Yeah. Then they move out. You
know?

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You miss them and they miss him
and did they

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come in and then when after they
move out and they start visiting

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just to take stuff? What
happened to this edge?

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That's already happening. She
takes stuff and then she leaves

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it somewhere and forgets where
she left it.

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They take stuff to their house.
Oh, that's

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even worse. Well, the minute she
has a house I'm coming over

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there. I'm stomping chips into
the potato chips into the

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carpet. I'm leaving my shit
around. I'm leaving doors open

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lights on.

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The lights on Oh, places lit up
like a Roman candle.

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Did you know what I'm saying?
You know, does that sound

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familiar? Yes,

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because no button and no kid
thinks to turn the lights off.

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taking showers. It's a it's a
muscle exercise. And they don't

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have it. It's not in the body.

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Is this is God This is insanity.
This has got to stop. I don't

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know how to do oh, by the way. I
got something here. John, you're

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gonna be very jealous of in my
hand from my wonderful friend

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Paul Parkinson. He sent this to
my house that arrived today. And

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he sent a couple of of books as
well which I really that's like

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that. What a gift of love to
give someone books. Because it

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says so much about what they
think about you. As the

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recipient. I hold in my hand. A
10 billion. No, I'm sorry. $100

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billion note from Zimbabwe.
Well, because you'd only had a

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10 billion right

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now and I only have to devote
what I have is a 10 million I

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don't have a 10 billion

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$100 billion expires on December
31 2008.

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But so it's still good for it's
still good. It's still $100

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billion. Well, I'm gonna it's in
it's a perfect note. By the way,

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it has not been

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perfect today these things don't
get worn out get naked scan of

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it and send it to me so I can
blog it Yeah,

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no, it's is beautiful. No, no,
no, no, no, I like you. I'm

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gonna blog it and then you can
put a link to me. You crazy I

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gotta get some link love. I love

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what's your serial number on
that thing at the lower right

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hand corner should have some
number

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020229000 No,

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that's the one at the bottom
underneath bearer check. There

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should be a stamped black number
over on the right down at the

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bottom.

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At the top. It's a AAA 587653
and the DEA something I've a

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so I have the I have the rare AE
series John.

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Yeah, well I have the 10 of the
100 million notes Yes. I love

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this actually say $100 million.

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You see and has all the zeros on
it too. It's it's really cool.

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And it says here it just like
our money paid to the bearer on

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demand. $100 billion on or
before 31st December 2008 for

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the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe yes
yes you need first of July 2008

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Yeah, that's Do you know if you
hold up to the light you should

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see two watermarks. Say and also
a security band down the middle.

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Yeah, one Hey, it looks like a
dildo. That's what I thought

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when I saw it. Or like a like a
bong almost. It's

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weird. Yeah. And then it should
be RBZ on there and then it

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should also be that black line
down the middle secure I got the

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Blackboard I got the bug
security lie at the real deal

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that's a real 100 billion
dollars

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congratulations you win $100
million and I'm going to blog

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this and and you don't I'm going
to put it in a permanent spot on

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the homepage for every day I can
be reminded of what our money

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will look like what the dollar
will look like this is it this

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that's what it is this is this
is what happens when you when

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you give your government a
printing press. This is what you

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get.

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This is what you get.

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My understanding is they're
going to change the name to the

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from the dollar to the peso

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Yeah, maybe it doesn't matter

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if there's no edge because Oh,
actually, you know, the the

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marrow is still in play.

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Yeah, I was. This has been going
on for a long time. And but it

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doesn't really matter what you
call it. If it's based on

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nothing, then it's not worth
anything. Right?

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I use the word simple then send
me your money if it's not worth

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anything.

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Now it's worth something now.

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My hunch is what he said. That's
all it counts is now

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Exactly so right now I'm happy.
Oh, I got sad again because I

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thought of two minutes from now
it's Obama is totally being seen

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as the president of the world.

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Yeah, that's interesting. Well,
he's somebody was commenting on

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the fact that they've never seen
an acceptance speech before.

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Where there wasn't normally the
acceptance visa guys up there

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with his family and they're in
that kind of a cosy room and

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they're accepting it to the to
their,

442
00:25:29,669 --> 00:25:33,239
to their local, their local
their local hangout. Yeah.

443
00:25:33,659 --> 00:25:37,319
And so he's doing in front of a
big audience with nobody around

444
00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:39,449
and it's the same lighting you
know, it's all it's another

445
00:25:39,449 --> 00:25:43,079
staged event. They thought that
was peculiar. And then so

446
00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:46,139
apparently, Charlie Rose some of
the now that media is starting

447
00:25:46,139 --> 00:25:48,629
to think of, they're actually
using the term cult of

448
00:25:48,629 --> 00:25:49,619
personality.

449
00:25:49,769 --> 00:25:53,909
Oh, I played that song the other
day on daily source code. Living

450
00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:57,809
Colour, remember that? Remember
Living Colour? Yeah. Not the TV

451
00:25:57,809 --> 00:26:01,499
show. John. The band. Yeah, the
song. But you remember the song?

452
00:26:02,459 --> 00:26:05,639
No, I don't. Why are you saying
why are you saying yes, if you

453
00:26:05,639 --> 00:26:09,569
don't remember the song? I
remember the group. Okay, what

454
00:26:09,569 --> 00:26:11,309
did the lead singer look like?
Because you're lying. You're

455
00:26:11,309 --> 00:26:14,909
full of shit. I don't remember.
You would remember if you

456
00:26:14,909 --> 00:26:16,469
remember this group you would
remember?

457
00:26:16,859 --> 00:26:23,519
D look like? Like one of these
you know? Like, I can't remember

458
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:25,079
these names. This goes back too
far.

459
00:26:26,730 --> 00:26:29,250
Even I remember this. Well,
yeah,

460
00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:31,259
we're in the business to
remember that.

461
00:26:31,740 --> 00:26:36,750
This was 19 I'm gonna say 90 You
remember him because it was one

462
00:26:36,750 --> 00:26:40,200
of the first really hard rockin
groups that had a black guy

463
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:45,090
fronting it Corey Glover so you
don't you don't remember

464
00:26:48,299 --> 00:26:53,849
Hey, just listen to this write
down give me an education I can

465
00:26:53,849 --> 00:26:54,839
easily understand

466
00:27:01,650 --> 00:27:02,580
Okay, remember the song?

467
00:27:03,239 --> 00:27:06,329
No. Okay. Play it down

468
00:27:06,329 --> 00:27:07,289
I'm gonna play the whole thing

469
00:27:08,069 --> 00:27:08,969
will play part of it.

470
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,080
I just played play some lyrics
didn't you? Didn't you just hear

471
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,290
it?

472
00:27:14,819 --> 00:27:17,339
I just was like in the
background. I could barely hear

473
00:27:17,339 --> 00:27:17,519
it.

474
00:27:17,579 --> 00:27:19,229
Well wait a minute. That's not
right. You're supposed to it's

475
00:27:19,229 --> 00:27:24,239
supposed to be really loud. How
come I say here we go. Do you

476
00:27:24,239 --> 00:27:24,599
hear that?

477
00:27:25,109 --> 00:27:26,099
I can do that now

478
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:35,579
I have a little bit of lyrics

479
00:27:49,740 --> 00:27:50,340
you know I'm saying

480
00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:54,210
oh, you know, I know I vaguely
remember that. Yeah.

481
00:27:56,069 --> 00:27:58,319
You probably have this CD right
next to your New Kids on the

482
00:27:58,319 --> 00:27:59,039
Block CD

483
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:09,089
Yeah, yeah. Right. I vaguely
remember that song.

484
00:28:09,539 --> 00:28:12,449
It was a huge it was a massive
hit. They had one other song and

485
00:28:12,449 --> 00:28:14,819
that was it and I actually
wonder where the guy is he's

486
00:28:14,819 --> 00:28:18,239
gone. So anyway, yeah. cult of
personality completely because

487
00:28:18,239 --> 00:28:20,399
that that's what we're looking
at 100%

488
00:28:21,509 --> 00:28:23,909
Yeah, I think we knew that from
the get

489
00:28:23,910 --> 00:28:26,190
go Yeah, but it's so dangerous.

490
00:28:27,210 --> 00:28:30,270
Yeah, it tends to be but you
know it's usually becomes a big

491
00:28:30,270 --> 00:28:32,580
disappointment and problem with
cult of personality is that when

492
00:28:32,580 --> 00:28:37,470
you have when that when you're
when your fans turn on you it's

493
00:28:37,470 --> 00:28:38,220
pretty ugly.

494
00:28:40,109 --> 00:28:44,009
Yes, it can get very ugly but
the really good ones that look

495
00:28:44,009 --> 00:28:46,859
good you've got the all you
really need is the media. You

496
00:28:46,859 --> 00:28:50,339
need the media in your pocket as
much as possible. That's going

497
00:28:50,339 --> 00:28:54,989
to be interesting to see if if
the the Obama administration can

498
00:28:54,989 --> 00:28:56,429
control the spin

499
00:28:58,619 --> 00:29:00,689
well, you know, they got some
good people there you know, the

500
00:29:00,689 --> 00:29:05,699
actual rod and those characters
are pretty pretty. And yeah,

501
00:29:05,729 --> 00:29:08,189
they're pretty nasty. Well, if
they're all in control, this is

502
00:29:08,189 --> 00:29:11,219
all it's apparent already. Did
when did the cult personality

503
00:29:11,219 --> 00:29:16,499
get this get that big, long hair
is long haired black man. What?

504
00:29:17,369 --> 00:29:19,229
Wasn't a guy that singer on
that? Oh, yeah.

505
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,590
You finally Googled him and now
you're looking at a picture. It

506
00:29:22,590 --> 00:29:23,520
took you a long time. We'll

507
00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:25,259
go with this because we lose our
connection.

508
00:29:26,369 --> 00:29:29,189
You bullshit. you're Googling,

509
00:29:30,779 --> 00:29:32,519
Googling, like that?

510
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:37,049
You're so busted. I saw the
European Union put out there

511
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:42,029
October 29. Communication. And
greenhouse has now become a

512
00:29:42,029 --> 00:29:47,009
Verb. To greenhouse doubt to
green the economy,

513
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:50,909
but to green the economy. Yeah.
No, that's terrible. Yeah.

514
00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:54,000
In fact, if you look at their,
their communication is pretty

515
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,210
much you could put Obama Biden
on it. And you say, All right,

516
00:29:57,870 --> 00:30:02,130
it's the same thing. and more
money going into the banks.

517
00:30:02,610 --> 00:30:05,700
Bloomberg, this was offence. I
answered a few I find this link

518
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:09,180
Bloomberg, I read today, they
put it a Freedom of Information

519
00:30:09,330 --> 00:30:13,650
request for all the money the
Federal Reserve had lent to the

520
00:30:13,650 --> 00:30:19,050
financial industry prior to the
bailout. So outside of the 700

521
00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:22,830
billion. And it turns out, they
have lent, in addition to the

522
00:30:22,830 --> 00:30:28,620
$700,000,000,001.5 trillion to
financial institutions,

523
00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:30,870
Bloomberg said, hey, you know,
we'd like to know, what kind of

524
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:34,020
securities have you received
against that? Because that's the

525
00:30:34,020 --> 00:30:37,260
deal. They lend you the money.
And then these banks were

526
00:30:37,260 --> 00:30:40,530
already apparently before the
bailout, were handing over their

527
00:30:40,530 --> 00:30:43,950
worthless paper to the
government as collateral or, you

528
00:30:43,950 --> 00:30:46,890
know, or as purchase I'm not
quite sure which, and that's the

529
00:30:46,890 --> 00:30:50,550
whole point. And so Bloomberg
said, hey, you know, can we take

530
00:30:50,550 --> 00:30:52,530
a look at that? Because we'd
like to know what what, you

531
00:30:52,530 --> 00:30:54,600
know, what all that all of our
money is being securitized

532
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,410
against. And the Federal Reserve
said, No, that's none of your

533
00:30:58,410 --> 00:31:04,800
business. Your business. And by
the way, were you know, were you

534
00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:10,050
Yeah, and your mom was? Thanks.
Nananananana. That's, that's

535
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,580
outrageous, John.

536
00:31:13,740 --> 00:31:17,130
Cool. Well, what's outrageous is
Bloomberg. First this guy talks

537
00:31:17,130 --> 00:31:18,480
him into letting him go first.

538
00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:22,500
I'm talking about Bloomberg, not
Bloomberg, the mayor, I'm

539
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:25,170
talking about Bloomberg, the
news organisation.

540
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,260
Well, owned by Bloomberg, the
mayor, I

541
00:31:28,260 --> 00:31:30,240
just want to make sure you knew
that I was. That's what I was

542
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:30,930
saying. You know, I

543
00:31:30,929 --> 00:31:33,389
thought you were talking about
Bloomberg the mayor. Okay. Well,

544
00:31:33,420 --> 00:31:35,940
tell us about Bloomberg, the
mayor, the guy who wants to

545
00:31:36,390 --> 00:31:40,410
extend his term. He's like
Berlusconi in New York.

546
00:31:41,309 --> 00:31:44,639
Exactly. So firstly, extended,
he talks everybody into this.

547
00:31:44,639 --> 00:31:47,279
And so he goes in, he gets his
reelected. Then he says, Okay,

548
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:50,279
we're going to update in come
chat, excellent percent for all

549
00:31:50,279 --> 00:31:52,109
you New Yorkers. And we're going
to do this, we're gonna do that

550
00:31:52,109 --> 00:31:57,719
and just like slams it to him.
So there's, you know, the New

551
00:31:57,719 --> 00:31:59,729
York is one of the few cities in
the United States where you have

552
00:31:59,729 --> 00:32:04,049
to pay an income tax to live
there. Yeah. And the city wants

553
00:32:04,049 --> 00:32:06,989
to jerk it up to 15% or 10. At
least.

554
00:32:07,019 --> 00:32:10,739
Well, he has to, he has to, ya
know, the city's broke is

555
00:32:10,739 --> 00:32:13,229
completely broke. And now
they're using the

556
00:32:13,650 --> 00:32:16,230
well, he's been editing for as
long as he has, how did he get

557
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:21,840
broke? Whose fault is that?
Well, anybody who's been there

558
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,250
for two terms? Yeah.

559
00:32:23,820 --> 00:32:28,200
So him pay. Yeah.

560
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,200
So it goes.

561
00:32:34,109 --> 00:32:38,699
So then we have our arm, you
know, the crazy Mayor we've got

562
00:32:38,729 --> 00:32:44,069
is Gavin Newsom from San
Francisco. Yeah. Guy, you know,

563
00:32:44,069 --> 00:32:45,509
he obviously wants to be
president.

564
00:32:47,670 --> 00:32:49,350
Yeah, so what did he do this
time?

565
00:32:50,549 --> 00:32:54,029
I mean, he's just essentially
whining about the fact that

566
00:32:54,029 --> 00:32:58,559
proposition eight was passed,
even though it's largely his

567
00:32:58,559 --> 00:32:59,129
fault.

568
00:32:59,430 --> 00:33:03,210
Right. So we, we talked about
this previously, I believe it

569
00:33:03,210 --> 00:33:08,520
was a week ago, Proposition
eight was to ban gay marriage in

570
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,380
the state of California,
correct.

571
00:33:11,940 --> 00:33:14,970
It was to re ban gay marriage
that had been banned once

572
00:33:14,970 --> 00:33:20,760
before. And it wasn't unbanned
it was unbanned by the courts.

573
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:27,030
And then the guys like Newsom
are gloating about it, which is

574
00:33:27,030 --> 00:33:28,440
by the way, where I'm seeing a
lot of

575
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,250
fun. Any Obama Halia a lot of
that,

576
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:34,770
I mean, this is what the Bill
Maher thing I brought up even

577
00:33:34,770 --> 00:33:37,950
though it's set you off into a
offbeat direction that's gonna

578
00:33:38,790 --> 00:33:45,000
help you reputation much, but
the gloating just gloating about

579
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,100
well, you know, and there's, you
know, there's just been there's

580
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:50,970
still pounding on Sarah Palin
and McCain as though they did

581
00:33:50,970 --> 00:33:53,910
like, we're gonna have another
election. You know, let's just

582
00:33:54,060 --> 00:33:57,990
pile on. And the one thing that
was interesting to me was is the

583
00:33:57,990 --> 00:34:03,120
in the insincerity of it all,
for example, on Maher show, he

584
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:09,330
showed the John McCain speech
where he conceded and there's

585
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,080
some people in the audience
booing boo, you know, when he

586
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,990
mentioned Obama, and so McCain
told him to shut up and they

587
00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:19,650
did. And so Marsh shows this
showing that the Republicans are

588
00:34:19,650 --> 00:34:23,250
a bunch of a holes for booing
Obama. And then he says, Look at

589
00:34:23,250 --> 00:34:25,410
what Kerry did. And then he
shows Kerry giving his

590
00:34:25,410 --> 00:34:29,430
concession speech, you know, and
he just shows who knows what

591
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:31,950
part of it and nobody says
anything. In fact, the room is

592
00:34:31,950 --> 00:34:36,210
deadly silent. And I'm thinking
what a bunch of boldest guys

593
00:34:36,210 --> 00:34:38,430
like he's been in broadcasting
long enough to know that if you

594
00:34:38,430 --> 00:34:41,010
don't mic the audience, you'd be
able to be boring and who's

595
00:34:41,010 --> 00:34:44,700
gonna know. Yeah, it seemed to
me that the Kerry group wasn't

596
00:34:44,700 --> 00:34:47,280
dumb audience wasn't Mike died,
did a thing once in Las Vegas

597
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,060
where we had this huge audience.
I couldn't believe it. We had

598
00:34:51,060 --> 00:34:53,460
this huge audience and we're
doing a live presentation and

599
00:34:53,460 --> 00:34:58,800
they didn't mic the audience. So
I was I had some some hilarious

600
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,250
material and And the audience
was going crazy. It was really

601
00:35:02,250 --> 00:35:05,970
funny. He was laughing, you'd
have to pause for the laughter.

602
00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:09,540
When I was doing a TV back in
the early 80s. In the

603
00:35:09,540 --> 00:35:12,750
Netherlands, we did a series of
what we did a whole season live.

604
00:35:13,140 --> 00:35:15,930
And so you get in a whole
different crew and, and it's

605
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,010
intense to do a music show live,
you've got X and the X, they all

606
00:35:20,250 --> 00:35:25,470
would lip sync to their own
track. But what the sound

607
00:35:25,470 --> 00:35:27,390
technician did, and of course, I
didn't know this at the time

608
00:35:27,390 --> 00:35:32,010
until I watched the tape of the
show. And when I freaked out, is

609
00:35:32,250 --> 00:35:34,530
that we had a, you know, we had
a studio audience, you know,

610
00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:37,290
like 150 Kids and they'd stand
in front of the stage and the

611
00:35:37,290 --> 00:35:40,950
speakers were booming. And, you
know, whoever whatever megastar

612
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:43,800
would be up there. It was like
Duran Duran, I think even at the

613
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,200
time who wouldn't be able to
sing live, even if we'd asked

614
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,440
them to on a TV show, or at
least not, they would never have

615
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,900
the combination of sound
technicians and talent to make

616
00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:55,140
that work. So they live sick.
And it was a lot easier, just

617
00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:59,340
that less gear less cost done.
It's still a pretty picture. And

618
00:35:59,340 --> 00:36:02,910
the audio engineer did the
minute the band started, he

619
00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:06,840
closed the audience mics. So
you're basically hearing the

620
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,360
record watching like a video
clipping you see all these kids

621
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,730
going nuts in front of the stage
and you didn't hear him at all?

622
00:36:11,730 --> 00:36:15,630
No room sound on nothing.
completely idiotic. Oh, it is

623
00:36:15,660 --> 00:36:16,740
infuriating.

624
00:36:17,099 --> 00:36:19,949
Well, here's what happened in my
situation. So we'd have you say

625
00:36:19,949 --> 00:36:22,229
something funny, you'd wait for
the audience to stop laughing

626
00:36:22,229 --> 00:36:24,539
and then you go back. So but
what says the audience wasn't

627
00:36:24,539 --> 00:36:27,149
miked? And when you saw the tape
on the what that what they

628
00:36:27,149 --> 00:36:29,699
broadcast, it was like a bunch
of guys up there saying stuff.

629
00:36:29,849 --> 00:36:32,489
And then you'd say something
funny, then there'd be this long

630
00:36:32,939 --> 00:36:36,389
silence as though nobody was
laughing. They might as well put

631
00:36:36,389 --> 00:36:40,379
a cricket soundtrack in the
background. And you look like a

632
00:36:40,379 --> 00:36:43,799
bunch of fools. And so I went
back and talked to the sound guy

633
00:36:43,799 --> 00:36:46,559
but what did what was the deal
with that not Mikey? Oh, well,

634
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:49,469
it's too much work. See what
he's talking about? It's too

635
00:36:49,469 --> 00:36:52,289
much work. And so I told him I
wouldn't do it. I wouldn't even

636
00:36:52,289 --> 00:36:55,949
go on again. And let's say you
know, fix that and they then

637
00:36:55,949 --> 00:36:59,279
what and then it's too much work
consisted of taking a mic and

638
00:36:59,279 --> 00:37:01,199
aiming at the audience and
turning it up turning

639
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:03,239
it off. Yeah. Oh, man.

640
00:37:04,380 --> 00:37:07,290
So anyway, so I thought Maher
was completely you know, just an

641
00:37:07,290 --> 00:37:10,920
insincere jerk about this whole
thing. And but he's just you can

642
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,680
just see he's just like going
back to zero the meat is just

643
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,310
getting a mean kind of a lemon.
He's becoming the kind of the

644
00:37:17,310 --> 00:37:19,830
grouchy old man that wants the
kids off the lawn.

645
00:37:21,179 --> 00:37:25,109
Well, it's, I'm not quite sure
where he stands on on most

646
00:37:25,109 --> 00:37:28,229
things. That sounds a little
confusing to me. And I'll add to

647
00:37:28,229 --> 00:37:30,659
that, that I cannot watch it
over here. There's just no no

648
00:37:30,659 --> 00:37:33,989
way to obtain it. Unless I guess
I crawled from the

649
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,900
disk of this show and you can
watch it the only reasonable

650
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:40,440
person on the show was his black
woman from NPR who was making

651
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,680
them a commentary that look you
guys are like beaten up by a

652
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,690
dead horse. I mean, you're
looking making yourself look

653
00:37:45,690 --> 00:37:48,960
like idiots. You know, let's
just get on you know and we'll

654
00:37:48,990 --> 00:37:54,390
be Why be so negative about you
know, winning. Yeah, she was

655
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:57,510
actually quite reasonable about
it. She saw the problem you

656
00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:58,890
know, that was going to create

657
00:37:59,790 --> 00:38:02,070
I'm tired of all of them. You
know, I can't watch any of that

658
00:38:02,070 --> 00:38:04,740
kid just can't watch anyone.
It's all it's all so superficial

659
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:08,910
and and so full of crap. Well,
real things are going on. The

660
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:11,760
credit card bond markets
collapsed Friday.

661
00:38:13,350 --> 00:38:15,420
Did you know No, tell me.

662
00:38:15,810 --> 00:38:18,510
Yep, they can't No one's No
one's buying the bonds. So

663
00:38:18,510 --> 00:38:23,550
that's it, credit cards will be
closed down. And I presume that

664
00:38:23,580 --> 00:38:25,740
credit lines will be tightened.
I'm not quite sure how that

665
00:38:25,740 --> 00:38:27,900
work. I guess the way their
contracts are written, they can

666
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:32,040
do pretty much anything they
want. So credit cards are now

667
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:34,950
the next wave the next shock
wave that will be

668
00:38:34,949 --> 00:38:37,949
here that was you know, I don't
think anybody is not expecting

669
00:38:37,949 --> 00:38:40,379
that. Andrew Horowitz has been
harping on getting out of

670
00:38:40,379 --> 00:38:42,359
Capital One for almost a year.

671
00:38:43,889 --> 00:38:46,889
Well, I'm not giving this as
financial advice to people who

672
00:38:46,889 --> 00:38:50,309
are investing. I'm telling this
to normal folks who just

673
00:38:50,309 --> 00:38:54,629
listened to our show and don't
live in cycles and reputations

674
00:38:56,850 --> 00:38:58,740
since your credit card your bad.

675
00:38:59,850 --> 00:39:04,080
Yeah, but but people are
financed everything on credit

676
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:09,360
cards, entire movies. Entire
startups are financed on credit

677
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,320
cards. Where will Silicon Valley
go with credit cards? Well, I've

678
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,440
no more credit card no more
stories. I remember when I

679
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,180
started the company on credit
cards

680
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:23,460
well, you know, we've gotten to
you know, our family has gone

681
00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:24,330
all cash.

682
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,039
Yeah, ditto but I've been that
way for a long time. But yeah,

683
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:33,089
you talking cash as in?
Absolutely zero plastic at all.

684
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:38,280
Yeah, like cash, we go to the we
go to the bank, take cash, you

685
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,620
know, put in, you know, and then
buy things with cash and makes a

686
00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:43,140
difference. The way you did
changes your spending habits.

687
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,130
Because when you're actually
putting cash down on the table,

688
00:39:47,550 --> 00:39:50,250
you think twice about it as
opposed to just throwing a card

689
00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:50,640
up there.

690
00:39:50,699 --> 00:39:53,669
It's funny, I was talking about
that very topic on the daily

691
00:39:53,669 --> 00:39:57,119
source code, where you know,
credit cards and even some of

692
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:02,369
the smart card debit cards that
store money on the chip itself

693
00:40:02,399 --> 00:40:06,239
money. Listen to me that set at
three bits differently off the

694
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:11,819
chip. You can't just look at it
and say Oh, I have 150 Left or I

695
00:40:11,819 --> 00:40:15,089
have 50 Left or 20 Left or
whatever. There's no indicator

696
00:40:15,089 --> 00:40:17,669
there's no readout, you have to
stick it into a card reader and

697
00:40:17,669 --> 00:40:20,699
then you know, type your PIN
code and all that crap to see

698
00:40:20,699 --> 00:40:24,419
how much money you have left.
And now monopoly someone left me

699
00:40:24,539 --> 00:40:30,089
pictures of the new box monopoly
brought to you by Visa. You

700
00:40:30,089 --> 00:40:33,689
actually pay for your houses
your hotels, and everything with

701
00:40:33,689 --> 00:40:37,889
your Visa credit card in the
game. What Yep, there's no more

702
00:40:37,889 --> 00:40:42,689
money what you didn't know this,
they had a huge launch in New

703
00:40:42,689 --> 00:40:46,919
York on I think the today's
show, they had a huge monopoly.

704
00:40:50,249 --> 00:40:54,569
Like 10 You know, like 100 times
scale Monopoly game, you know,

705
00:40:54,569 --> 00:40:59,459
I'll send it to you actually go
to drop.io/daily source code.

706
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,029
And you'll see here it is,
there's two pictures. First one

707
00:41:03,029 --> 00:41:09,659
is monopoly electronic banking.
Uses cards not cash to store

708
00:41:09,659 --> 00:41:13,649
your millions. That one may be
fake. The second one I don't

709
00:41:13,649 --> 00:41:16,979
think is fake though. But I
remember the monopoly guy with a

710
00:41:16,979 --> 00:41:19,379
hat on you know, he was walking
around the Today Show and he

711
00:41:19,379 --> 00:41:21,329
said oh no, everything's on
credit cards now and again.

712
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:24,480
I find this hard to believe.

713
00:41:24,839 --> 00:41:27,659
Now it's true. Come on, man.

714
00:41:28,290 --> 00:41:30,900
can spill apparently it can
spilled daily.

715
00:41:35,610 --> 00:41:38,670
I love that keyboard. You have
such a. It sounds like you're

716
00:41:38,670 --> 00:41:41,100
still using your Wang keyboard
actually

717
00:41:41,130 --> 00:41:48,540
daily dai l y source source code
that's it dropping in a log in

718
00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:50,040
it says that the login no

719
00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:59,640
drop.io/data source code. You
sure that it's not saying login

720
00:41:59,970 --> 00:42:01,920
or share the URL is right.

721
00:42:04,830 --> 00:42:09,300
I have dropped that IO daily
source code and it says login to

722
00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:10,110
this drop.

723
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,450
That's That's bullshit.

724
00:42:13,409 --> 00:42:16,799
I'm gonna send you a screenshot
now it showed up. I swear to God

725
00:42:16,799 --> 00:42:17,819
it just popped up now.

726
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:18,930
Watch what happens.

727
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:26,430
Well, bio is not the first black
president. That's a zero coffee

728
00:42:26,430 --> 00:42:29,580
shop and you could just go to
monopoly.com and here it is. I

729
00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:32,130
see it. I see it. Yeah, it's the
real picture. It's the real

730
00:42:32,130 --> 00:42:38,550
picture from monopoly.com It's
not a Photoshop you see that?

731
00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:42,960
Yeah, it's ridiculous. No, man.
This is rice. Yeah,

732
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,040
it's got a pin reader.

733
00:42:44,490 --> 00:42:46,920
Yes. ATM machine in the box.

734
00:42:46,949 --> 00:42:49,739
Is this what you want your
children to learn how to use

735
00:42:49,769 --> 00:42:53,249
electronic there's no concept of
trading something of something

736
00:42:53,249 --> 00:42:56,879
for value. It's sticking a
plastic into another plastic

737
00:42:56,879 --> 00:43:00,569
thing. If anything should be
labelled porn.

738
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:07,469
Monopoly ditches cash goes
plastic according to Engadget oh

739
00:43:07,469 --> 00:43:15,689
this is ridiculous. This just
ruin the game that allow this

740
00:43:15,689 --> 00:43:17,969
Little Reader they get this
Little Reader it comes with a

741
00:43:17,969 --> 00:43:18,689
winner of that

742
00:43:21,060 --> 00:43:23,340
but that's the bad actually
that's the bank

743
00:43:23,610 --> 00:43:27,540
can you read other cards in that
thing? Oh here that we need

744
00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:27,750
other

745
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:32,760
cards. You mean like your own
debit card? Yeah. I find myself

746
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,630
go I do have a debit card debit
card is really integrated here

747
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:40,860
in the UK. And it's it was
literally if it's not in the

748
00:43:40,860 --> 00:43:45,150
bank on that account then it
doesn't work and and I

749
00:43:45,150 --> 00:43:48,390
deliberately buy the weirdest
shit at the weird weirdest

750
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:54,780
places just to fuck them up you
know buy a candy bar and then

751
00:43:54,780 --> 00:43:59,340
I'll then I'll get like $20 from
an ATM in San Francisco

752
00:44:00,750 --> 00:44:01,920
just a mess with them

753
00:44:04,260 --> 00:44:07,140
Yeah, well you're probably going
to end up on some list and again

754
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:09,330
just have a book as a weird fees

755
00:44:10,830 --> 00:44:12,510
well we're gonna have fees for
everything

756
00:44:14,130 --> 00:44:15,000
that's the

757
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,630
problem that's the problem with
this plastic shit yeah, it's and

758
00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:21,360
have you heard the meme yet
paper to plastic? I'm hearing it

759
00:44:23,010 --> 00:44:24,570
you wait well it's what you

760
00:44:24,570 --> 00:44:28,080
say is true about the whole
credit card you know bond deal

761
00:44:28,110 --> 00:44:30,030
fallen apart? And they can't

762
00:44:30,060 --> 00:44:32,970
Yeah, but that's the that's the
credit card part here. So here

763
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,000
you want a conspiracy theory.
Here's one for you. We're a

764
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,810
theory not even conspiracy. So
yeah, the credit card part the

765
00:44:39,810 --> 00:44:46,260
credit part falls apart. But so
why wouldn't a bank the bank

766
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,500
Federal Reserve the Treasury for
all I care what differences have

767
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:52,350
made? Why would they set up a
computer system and say okay,

768
00:44:52,350 --> 00:44:57,090
now you can get the official
guaranteed bank US Federal

769
00:44:58,350 --> 00:45:03,300
Savings and Loan back I think
you'll get a debit card issued

770
00:45:03,780 --> 00:45:06,390
a way to stop it actually would
be a debit card. What do you

771
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:08,490
mean, you don't have to go that
far just having a Federal

772
00:45:08,490 --> 00:45:12,300
Reserve credit card? It says you
got to reserve on it just like

773
00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:14,430
$1. Bill would have crossed the
top. Yeah.

774
00:45:14,429 --> 00:45:16,739
And it has a little little
signature there, from the

775
00:45:16,739 --> 00:45:18,569
Treasury from the Secretary of
the Treasury.

776
00:45:18,930 --> 00:45:22,080
Right? Like, a miniature dollar.

777
00:45:22,110 --> 00:45:24,900
Yeah. And you could have your
face on it instead of instead of

778
00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:30,750
the President. That's right.
That's perfect. United, United

779
00:45:31,140 --> 00:45:33,420
States and stuff, that little
eagle holding the arrows and

780
00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:33,780
shit,

781
00:45:33,870 --> 00:45:37,080
actually, the way they do it,
they do by law, you'd have to

782
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,420
have your face on, it'd be a
form of identification. In fact,

783
00:45:39,449 --> 00:45:43,319
of course, without a doubt,
because it's, so it's your ID

784
00:45:43,319 --> 00:45:47,399
and your payment in one. And if
you misbehave, they just can

785
00:45:47,399 --> 00:45:51,869
they can, they can delete you.
You're gone, your card does no

786
00:45:51,869 --> 00:45:53,909
longer work, you are an invalid.

787
00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:57,929
You know, it's possible that
that actually makes a lot of

788
00:45:57,929 --> 00:46:00,449
sense, wilted they would that
they would do that

789
00:46:00,570 --> 00:46:03,930
Jackie Smith, who was the Home
Secretary in the United Kingdom,

790
00:46:04,830 --> 00:46:08,490
not very well, like a woman is
now coming out in interviews,

791
00:46:08,490 --> 00:46:13,500
saying, oh, boy, there's so much
they're handing out ID cards

792
00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:17,550
now. And they're going to start
with workers airside at one of

793
00:46:17,550 --> 00:46:21,450
the large airports, not quite
sure which one, which arguably

794
00:46:21,450 --> 00:46:24,930
for of course, Homeland Security
is an important thing to have

795
00:46:24,930 --> 00:46:29,010
good identification, but this is
the prototype and entered into

796
00:46:29,010 --> 00:46:32,550
the prototype database of the
national ID card. So she's

797
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:34,980
handing them out and she's
coming out in the press now and

798
00:46:34,980 --> 00:46:38,340
saying, Wow, the demand has been
so big people are calling my

799
00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:41,340
office saying oh, we want one
too. Everyone wants an ID card.

800
00:46:41,340 --> 00:46:44,700
We can't make them fast enough.
She's literally saying that in

801
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:49,530
the press. Like someone's gonna
call Oh, can I please have my ID

802
00:46:49,530 --> 00:46:53,670
card? It's so cool. I want it
well, you know, the Americans

803
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:56,970
have their Federal Reserve Bank
ID card and it is kind of cool

804
00:46:56,970 --> 00:46:59,370
look and look you can even have
your own face on it Tommy

805
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,770
Well, I don't know how they get
how far they're gonna get with

806
00:47:04,770 --> 00:47:10,050
this plastic to paper idea
because I mean, especially if

807
00:47:10,050 --> 00:47:13,230
you're on the West Coast, we
have so many Chinese that refuse

808
00:47:13,230 --> 00:47:16,890
to use anything but cash and
they run all their businesses on

809
00:47:16,890 --> 00:47:20,730
a cash basis. And you have
places you know like a Peter

810
00:47:20,730 --> 00:47:23,610
Luger there in New York you know
whether it's a big giant

811
00:47:23,610 --> 00:47:27,120
restaurant is very famous and
they only take cash. Does that

812
00:47:27,780 --> 00:47:28,470
hold out?

813
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:30,750
Does it tell you anything about
the Chinese do you think you

814
00:47:30,750 --> 00:47:32,250
might want to follow their
strategy?

815
00:47:33,210 --> 00:47:34,500
But you are actually

816
00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:39,450
yeah, I already am. Voice that
Chinese had some on the ball

817
00:47:39,450 --> 00:47:41,130
with that idea. That

818
00:47:41,639 --> 00:47:49,769
meanwhile, Zimbabwe and
Zimbabwe. Rwanda and the Congo

819
00:47:49,769 --> 00:47:52,649
have dropped off the news map.
Oops that done.

820
00:47:55,170 --> 00:47:58,170
Yeah, yeah, I know. It's kind of
interesting. There's been a

821
00:47:58,170 --> 00:48:01,140
couple of movement mentions here
and there but it's not news

822
00:48:01,140 --> 00:48:01,740
anymore.

823
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:06,510
Did you ever hear that? Do you
ever go to our drop? Uh, no

824
00:48:06,510 --> 00:48:07,050
agenda?

825
00:48:07,530 --> 00:48:10,620
I'm looking at no actually well
yeah, I do. Do you have

826
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,510
Did you hear the guy do Do you
eating on air?

827
00:48:17,250 --> 00:48:18,510
Somebody sent me a link to it

828
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,130
was funny.

829
00:48:22,409 --> 00:48:24,779
They only eat on air once in a
while.

830
00:48:24,810 --> 00:48:27,210
I didn't even hear it doesn't
bother me at all. I don't hear

831
00:48:27,210 --> 00:48:30,150
it. People get so picky. I gotta
you're

832
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:34,200
you're eating he's not supposed
to be eating. Fasting.

833
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:37,169
I don't want it apparently many
people find it disgusting to

834
00:48:37,169 --> 00:48:37,769
listen to

835
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:42,990
somebody eating you know there
used to be a radio personality

836
00:48:42,990 --> 00:48:45,990
that would be I forgot who it
was but he was local. And he

837
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:50,430
would this whole show was him
eating just be eating during the

838
00:48:50,430 --> 00:48:54,900
entire she was a DJ and he just
be eating the whole show every

839
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:56,100
day. Hey, it's fat

840
00:48:56,100 --> 00:49:00,150
Sam with the ever buddy Hill.
Oh, say here the bay you're

841
00:49:00,150 --> 00:49:04,590
doing what do you play records?
What do you play records?

842
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:07,170
Yeah, yeah. And then he drink
and somebody could hear him

843
00:49:07,170 --> 00:49:10,110
sipping on a glass of something
rather than you know drinking

844
00:49:10,110 --> 00:49:13,590
his coffee. It was a whole show
is like then he just he just

845
00:49:13,590 --> 00:49:18,000
gets just chewing away but he'd
be talking about chewing it

846
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,550
wasn't like he would you know
swallow then talk he would be

847
00:49:20,730 --> 00:49:22,620
talking while he had something
in his mouth chewing

848
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:29,460
but you're reasonably pleasant
eater to look at. I'll say that.

849
00:49:30,450 --> 00:49:33,180
Yeah, there are some people who
just like God damn.

850
00:49:33,420 --> 00:49:36,060
Oh, yeah, there's some people
are the people that some people

851
00:49:36,060 --> 00:49:38,490
that they crunch up there. They
have their cheeks get all puffy

852
00:49:38,490 --> 00:49:41,490
or they just chew on one side
shoe weird but there's a lot of

853
00:49:41,850 --> 00:49:45,300
when I was a good cow we always
had to. I'm laughing.

854
00:49:45,630 --> 00:49:47,850
We're actually discussing this
fantastic.

855
00:49:49,350 --> 00:49:51,720
Well, you ever seen it once and
every once a while you here's

856
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:53,940
another thing. You go to a
restaurant that'd be like to me

857
00:49:53,940 --> 00:49:56,580
sometimes maybe a good looking
woman. And then you watch her

858
00:49:56,610 --> 00:49:59,970
eating and you go oh my god, no
wonder she's still single. You

859
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:07,320
She's using this thing. But the
one thing that's interesting

860
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,320
about the the woman who has an
oil guy sometimes but there's

861
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,480
always the women are more
fascinating because they do the

862
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,900
weird stuff. And are they like
just you with their front teeth?

863
00:50:15,900 --> 00:50:18,630
And you can tell, you know, just
like good luck with

864
00:50:19,499 --> 00:50:23,459
the Billy MC ones. So are
scratching their teeth on the

865
00:50:23,459 --> 00:50:24,899
spoon? Have you ever seen that?

866
00:50:25,980 --> 00:50:30,180
Oh, here's another great one.
That's even I think it's

867
00:50:30,180 --> 00:50:35,070
grosser, it's the person again,
because usually watch guys eat

868
00:50:35,070 --> 00:50:39,750
but you see these women cuz they
they got a spoonful a summary or

869
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:42,990
a fork and before putting it in
their mouth, their tongue comes

870
00:50:42,990 --> 00:50:44,130
completely out.

871
00:50:44,430 --> 00:50:48,210
Go and it's not a pretty tongue.
It's not a pretty tongue. Huge

872
00:50:48,210 --> 00:50:48,750
long

873
00:50:48,780 --> 00:50:52,200
tongues that come out like
reptilian just makes you wonder.

874
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,710
And then the thing goes in and
the tongue kind of wraps it up,

875
00:50:55,710 --> 00:50:57,930
you know, and it's easy to go oh
my god, why does a tongue have

876
00:50:57,930 --> 00:51:00,480
to come out like that is to put
in some food

877
00:51:00,540 --> 00:51:04,770
and it turns you off, man. You
can't eat this like Ah, I'll

878
00:51:04,770 --> 00:51:06,210
never go ahead.

879
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,479
Well, I'm gonna say the one
thing you have to agree with me

880
00:51:09,479 --> 00:51:11,369
on is when you see you know
you're at a restaurant and you

881
00:51:11,369 --> 00:51:13,349
see somebody eating like they
are they have this weird

882
00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:17,339
characteristic. It's you can't
stop staring at them.

883
00:51:17,370 --> 00:51:19,860
No, no, of course not. And you
know what you should do if so if

884
00:51:19,860 --> 00:51:23,700
you're if you go out to dinner
John the next time and and it

885
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:27,480
can be man or woman but woman is
maybe even better. And she has

886
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,870
one of those disgusting habits.
You know what you can do? Just

887
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:35,580
love a cruise missile atom. You
just Blow that bitch right out

888
00:51:35,580 --> 00:51:38,700
of the water. I'm John C, F and
Devorah AK who to say Oh, what

889
00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:40,380
the hell do you think you
already eat like that in front

890
00:51:40,380 --> 00:51:45,120
of me? I got a reputation. Well,
the only thing you do this

891
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,550
weird, which we have discussed
before is you hold your fork

892
00:51:47,550 --> 00:51:51,960
incorrectly. And it's as it is
quite annoying. I'm used to it

893
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,100
now because I love

894
00:51:53,580 --> 00:51:57,000
quite annoy. You're not holding
your fork in the proper British

895
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,200
sensitive things. So

896
00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:03,629
Emily Post prescribed that my
mama rest her soul. My mama

897
00:52:03,689 --> 00:52:08,549
taught me how to eat properly.
And how to if you're eating

898
00:52:08,549 --> 00:52:12,599
soup, then you are pushing the
spoon away from you. And you

899
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:16,559
tilt away from you not towards
you away. At no point. May you

900
00:52:16,589 --> 00:52:19,739
ever drink from a soup bowl
unless it has two handles on

901
00:52:19,739 --> 00:52:20,249
each side.

902
00:52:20,699 --> 00:52:22,529
Do tell it to the Japanese.

903
00:52:23,699 --> 00:52:25,739
So you're not Japanese.

904
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,490
I'm just saying tell to the
Japanese Why don't you

905
00:52:30,090 --> 00:52:33,240
agree with me you hold your fork
wrong. You hold it like like

906
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:35,520
You're like a tool and die
instrument like

907
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,720
hold like an American that don't
hold it don't keep tilde left

908
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:44,340
the upside down for to the thing
is upside down and pointing

909
00:52:44,340 --> 00:52:48,750
toward the toward the toward
China and kept in the one hand

910
00:52:48,750 --> 00:52:50,790
and never swapped back and
forth. No

911
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:53,400
you're allowed to swap you're
supposed to swap according to

912
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:54,270
Emily Post.

913
00:52:54,420 --> 00:52:57,450
Well, I know but most Europeans
don't tell their

914
00:52:57,449 --> 00:53:00,869
proper I'm talking about you and
I This is between us too. And

915
00:53:00,869 --> 00:53:05,609
you hold your fork like you're
stabbing someone to death. And

916
00:53:05,609 --> 00:53:09,659
you jam it into your usually
rare whatever meat it is you

917
00:53:09,659 --> 00:53:12,869
eat. And it's really it's like a
psycho thing, man. Oh my god,

918
00:53:12,869 --> 00:53:17,849
there he goes. Can't you just
and by the way you can exert a

919
00:53:17,849 --> 00:53:21,629
lot more control in the proper
manner I would I need to show

920
00:53:21,629 --> 00:53:23,999
you the proper manner. This is
just not this is wrong.

921
00:53:26,699 --> 00:53:30,359
You mean you want me to do it
the foppish way in which you do

922
00:53:30,359 --> 00:53:30,569
it.

923
00:53:31,380 --> 00:53:34,200
I would like you to see if
there's an added benefit, I

924
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,230
believe you will find my manner
of holding the force beneficial

925
00:53:38,070 --> 00:53:41,490
is where you have more food
control. And there's a lot more

926
00:53:41,490 --> 00:53:43,200
you can do with the actual fork.

927
00:53:43,710 --> 00:53:49,140
You have you describe me as
sitting there ham fisted? That's

928
00:53:49,140 --> 00:53:55,680
exactly what with a grip around
the formula. What you do, you

929
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:56,820
got a cab

930
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:04,020
comes to the dead chainsaw.
Clunk jabs it in again. And then

931
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:06,840
it's kind of like weird how it
then turns you have to turn your

932
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,290
whole arm to get it into your
mouth because you can't point it

933
00:54:10,290 --> 00:54:13,020
properly because you're not
using the tool the way it was

934
00:54:13,020 --> 00:54:14,280
meant to be implemented.

935
00:54:14,639 --> 00:54:18,899
This is nonsense. I believe our
audience right the time here's

936
00:54:18,899 --> 00:54:21,539
the deal. One time I had
something it was just like

937
00:54:21,539 --> 00:54:24,449
something I needed to like
really forced into this thing

938
00:54:24,449 --> 00:54:28,829
because it was conference. Your
eyes bugged open, because you're

939
00:54:29,009 --> 00:54:32,009
normally just looking at your
plate gobbling things down and

940
00:54:32,009 --> 00:54:33,449
not paying much attention to me.

941
00:54:33,780 --> 00:54:36,450
So you saw it because you make
me nauseous when you're when

942
00:54:36,450 --> 00:54:38,100
you're calling you're murdering
your

943
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,960
you just bug eyed your hair
stood up and you went oh my god,

944
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,360
what are you doing? And I said
this thing you know is gonna

945
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,120
slide off the plate if I don't
do this and you wouldn't have

946
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,770
been preoccupied with it ever
since.

947
00:54:50,370 --> 00:54:54,360
It was the first time we ever
ate. I saw it and I went oh God,

948
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,700
but I'm not rude. You know? It's
like a first date. I'm not gonna

949
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:57,870
you mentioned

950
00:54:57,870 --> 00:54:59,970
it on the spot. What are you
kidding me the second

951
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,830
A conjoined with this for me, it
was, it was the first day. I

952
00:55:04,830 --> 00:55:07,320
wasn't looking to get laid. I'm
like, I gotta I gotta tell them

953
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,140
because it'll just bugged me.
It's like, like someone has food

954
00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:13,080
on their, on their cheek. You
know, if you don't say it,

955
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,630
you're a dick because they need
just looking at the piece, like

956
00:55:15,660 --> 00:55:16,800
fall off, make that

957
00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:23,430
you see it every once in a
while, you say, well, maybe

958
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:27,150
it'll just fall off your mouth.
That's

959
00:55:27,149 --> 00:55:29,909
wrong, man. You just gotta say
it because you're wasting

960
00:55:29,909 --> 00:55:34,079
valuable time and space by
waiting for food to fall off. So

961
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:35,069
I just said,

962
00:55:35,490 --> 00:55:38,880
I think it's a timing thing with
the food on the face. I think

963
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,650
you can't just say it
immediately.

964
00:55:40,889 --> 00:55:44,099
Like Like, you slob you deck, I
can't believe that you just

965
00:55:44,129 --> 00:55:45,809
shove that all over your face.

966
00:55:46,889 --> 00:55:49,619
So you have to wait. There's,
there's a there's a period of

967
00:55:49,619 --> 00:55:53,129
it. There's a waiting period
that's involved with calling

968
00:55:53,129 --> 00:55:55,769
people and telling them that
they get some chunk of food on

969
00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:59,370
what would you do? Is that based
upon the conversation at hand?

970
00:55:59,370 --> 00:56:05,430
Or is that based upon actual
seconds and or minutes? I love

971
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:07,890
it the most when it when it
happens in a meeting. And the

972
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,910
and the person who's speaking
has something on their face. And

973
00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:14,790
you just and I just start I'm
like, I wait, I don't say it

974
00:56:14,790 --> 00:56:17,850
anymore. Like who's gonna say at
first who's gonna say because

975
00:56:17,850 --> 00:56:21,300
you know, with Ron, we've been
we've been in business so so

976
00:56:21,300 --> 00:56:25,170
long that sometimes I'll say
dude, score a frickin tic tac

977
00:56:25,170 --> 00:56:28,590
you smell like death out of your
out of your beak. This is

978
00:56:28,590 --> 00:56:31,800
horrible. And he knows it. And
you know, so I can just get and

979
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,370
I actually carry peppermints for
the poor man. But other people

980
00:56:36,060 --> 00:56:39,300
they won't say this, you know,
they just sit in a whole meeting

981
00:56:39,300 --> 00:56:42,030
room for five minutes and wait
and everyone's sitting there

982
00:56:42,030 --> 00:56:44,820
like they're not listening to
what someone has to say. They're

983
00:56:44,820 --> 00:56:48,450
like they're thinking you better
drop off the crumb has to drop

984
00:56:48,450 --> 00:56:50,370
off oh my god, I can't look as a
chrome

985
00:56:51,570 --> 00:56:55,470
Well, on the bad breath issue
ever run into these guys.

986
00:56:56,219 --> 00:56:58,799
You're so many seconds for the
for the brush.

987
00:57:00,270 --> 00:57:05,280
It's like there's the the
there's there's different kinds

988
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,800
of you know, these guys with
cigar breath and that some other

989
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:12,150
some sort of deep lung problem
they've got so every show within

990
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:13,020
about a two foot

991
00:57:13,260 --> 00:57:15,540
well, their, their sphincter
doesn't close properly. That's

992
00:57:15,540 --> 00:57:18,270
what I know a lot about this by
chance, but your that's your

993
00:57:18,300 --> 00:57:20,910
your sphincter as it's called in
your throat, you have another

994
00:57:20,910 --> 00:57:25,830
sphincter. And that just doesn't
close properly. And so basically

995
00:57:25,830 --> 00:57:29,310
your stomach acid is just kind
of, you know, letting loose into

996
00:57:29,310 --> 00:57:30,930
the air out of your head.

997
00:57:32,639 --> 00:57:36,269
Is that right? Yeah. I never
heard this. Oh, man. I do not

998
00:57:36,269 --> 00:57:38,849
have many people that have this
kind of problem. And it's like

999
00:57:38,849 --> 00:57:42,479
this. And so the end, the worst
ones are the ones who are close

1000
00:57:42,479 --> 00:57:43,139
talkers.

1001
00:57:43,230 --> 00:57:46,800
Oh, and they lean up right to
you. Hey, that's why No, that's

1002
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,000
why I never go to a concert.

1003
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,390
And you have to kind of turn
your head because it's like, Oh,

1004
00:57:51,390 --> 00:57:53,760
yeah. And hold your breath is
just horrible. Yeah. And

1005
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,340
they're, you know, they have
they have to be real close. And

1006
00:57:56,340 --> 00:57:58,800
then if you back away into the
worst kind of works close

1007
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,410
targets, as if you back off like
I don't want you to just close

1008
00:58:01,410 --> 00:58:03,960
to me when you're talking and
then they move over. Move in.

1009
00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:06,600
Yeah. They can take a hint.

1010
00:58:06,989 --> 00:58:09,449
How many seconds? John before
you have to tell someone they

1011
00:58:09,449 --> 00:58:14,189
have a chrome on their face.
Kevin, go 1515. Okay, that's not

1012
00:58:14,189 --> 00:58:17,609
too bad. Unless they're talking,
but you don't interrupt them to

1013
00:58:17,609 --> 00:58:18,059
say, hey,

1014
00:58:18,750 --> 00:58:21,390
now you can do you can do the
motion thing where you push the

1015
00:58:21,390 --> 00:58:24,690
motion to get him with a anxious
look. And then you point at some

1016
00:58:24,690 --> 00:58:28,320
part of their body, your own
face, like that. And then again,

1017
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,370
coach, they always go to the

1018
00:58:29,370 --> 00:58:32,430
wrong side that way, because
they immediately go to the wrong

1019
00:58:32,430 --> 00:58:36,660
side of the face. Exactly. I
think we should have a code word

1020
00:58:36,660 --> 00:58:37,080
for it.

1021
00:58:39,300 --> 00:58:40,170
Chrome alert.

1022
00:58:42,210 --> 00:58:45,000
We really need that now Crumpler
does not good enough.

1023
00:58:47,610 --> 00:58:49,830
So when you're in the Middle
East, by the way, everybody's a

1024
00:58:49,830 --> 00:58:50,670
close talker.

1025
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:57,390
This is why I go to very few
concerts and nightclubs. Because

1026
00:58:57,390 --> 00:59:01,770
of people leaning into either
smell of a puke. And the worst,

1027
00:59:01,770 --> 00:59:07,410
of course, is women who smell
like puke. Be alcohol. See, as

1028
00:59:07,410 --> 00:59:11,190
you say, cigars, particularly
backstage, at concerts, because

1029
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:13,590
everyone Yeah, well used to be
that way. You can't smoke

1030
00:59:13,590 --> 00:59:16,200
anywhere these days. But as
always, the executives are

1031
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,470
always smoking cigars, its
tanks. And because it's so

1032
00:59:19,470 --> 00:59:23,250
noisy, they have to come in
close like and by the way, when

1033
00:59:23,250 --> 00:59:28,140
you are talking to someone at a
concert, and of course you come

1034
00:59:28,140 --> 00:59:33,420
very close to their ear. Please
do not shout. It is sufficient

1035
00:59:33,420 --> 00:59:37,320
to you may even put your lips on
my ear. As long as you speak in

1036
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:42,150
a normal voice when you shout.
You are making me deaf. And then

1037
00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:44,250
this happened. And that's why
don't go because people always

1038
00:59:44,250 --> 00:59:46,560
want to come up and say
something to me, like, you know,

1039
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:54,810
go have you noticed, by the way,
John, that if you've been to the

1040
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,160
countries in the Middle East,
right, yeah. And but also a

1041
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,840
little you get to You know, if
you look at Pakistan, but a lot

1042
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:08,220
of the Middle Eastern countries,
why is it that their audio when

1043
01:00:08,220 --> 01:00:10,770
they have either a radio
broadcast or a television

1044
01:00:10,770 --> 01:00:13,200
broadcast? Why is it always over
modulated?

1045
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:17,549
It's either Oh yeah, it's over
modulated and often sounds like

1046
01:00:17,549 --> 01:00:19,109
they're in a bucket. So let's
get

1047
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,160
to exactly what you run into
that it's not just here, but you

1048
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,590
run it that in Mexican, Mexican

1049
01:00:31,950 --> 01:00:32,700
there, it's there. It's

1050
01:00:34,020 --> 01:00:43,470
a bunker, bunker. I know they're
always shouting, why but what it

1051
01:00:43,470 --> 01:00:46,410
is, but it's actually over
modulated microphone, you don't

1052
01:00:46,410 --> 01:00:47,520
need to shout.

1053
01:00:47,550 --> 01:00:49,650
But it's actually over
modulated? I mean, it is

1054
01:00:49,650 --> 01:00:52,710
technically in the red, you
know, it's where it should not

1055
01:00:52,710 --> 01:00:56,220
be because it's distorted. Is
that just like they said that

1056
01:00:56,220 --> 01:00:59,100
their sound they like it, they
think that the signal will reach

1057
01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:01,500
further maybe if they if they
shout louder?

1058
01:01:02,429 --> 01:01:05,429
Well, they have you know, in
throughout the Middle East, they

1059
01:01:05,429 --> 01:01:09,629
have called to prayer throughout
today, from these from these

1060
01:01:09,629 --> 01:01:14,459
large mosque speakers on the
mosques, they have these spires

1061
01:01:14,459 --> 01:01:17,009
that go way up, and then they
have them loaded. By the way, I

1062
01:01:17,009 --> 01:01:20,189
wonder, I would like a Muslim to
explain to me because they're,

1063
01:01:20,219 --> 01:01:22,769
you know, you're supposed to not
change certain things that after

1064
01:01:22,769 --> 01:01:25,379
the Quran was written and all
this other kind of stuff. And

1065
01:01:25,379 --> 01:01:27,629
there's all these rules and
regulations when it well, where

1066
01:01:27,629 --> 01:01:31,709
does it? Where is it in the
Qur'an that you can use, you

1067
01:01:31,709 --> 01:01:36,329
know, 10,000 watts of
amplification speakers, because

1068
01:01:36,329 --> 01:01:38,429
they used to go up there
apparently, and give the call to

1069
01:01:38,429 --> 01:01:42,809
prayer. Very funny sound. I
mean, it's not funny, it's just

1070
01:01:43,019 --> 01:01:46,199
funny, pleasant. It's something
about you know, you're in the

1071
01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:48,269
Middle East, let's put that way
because they all start cranking

1072
01:01:48,269 --> 01:01:50,579
up about the same time. And they
all compete with each other.

1073
01:01:50,579 --> 01:01:53,339
Somebody explained it to me that
the bid and they started loading

1074
01:01:53,339 --> 01:01:56,309
up with amplifiers and speakers.
And so they go up there or they

1075
01:01:56,309 --> 01:01:58,139
don't go up there anymore. They
just get to the on the

1076
01:01:58,139 --> 01:02:02,189
microphone, and start, you know,
chanting, and then the next guy

1077
01:02:02,189 --> 01:02:05,189
down the next mosque down the
road, he starts he tries to be

1078
01:02:05,189 --> 01:02:08,399
louder, because he wants you
know, to be heard over the other

1079
01:02:08,399 --> 01:02:12,179
guy, and then the show about so
there's a cacophony a number of

1080
01:02:12,179 --> 01:02:17,219
times a day, five or six times a
day, whatever. Usually, you just

1081
01:02:17,219 --> 01:02:20,009
all happens at once. And it's
just everybody's screaming at

1082
01:02:20,009 --> 01:02:23,729
the top of their lungs and these
speaker systems, and it's

1083
01:02:23,729 --> 01:02:26,669
totally distorted because
they've got them turned up all

1084
01:02:26,669 --> 01:02:29,399
the way. And I think it's the
sound they've gotten used to

1085
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,660
the most prized possession I
have from my trip to Iraq during

1086
01:02:33,660 --> 01:02:38,790
the war in 2003. Is you see him
around now because of course so

1087
01:02:38,790 --> 01:02:41,670
many DJI eyes have been in and
out and in that you can buy

1088
01:02:41,670 --> 01:02:45,000
these things almost everywhere
in every market place every

1089
01:02:45,390 --> 01:02:50,820
every town. It's a plastic alarm
clock. And it is a I'm gonna say

1090
01:02:50,820 --> 01:02:56,160
it's about three quarters of a
foot long and it's a mosque and

1091
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,570
you set the alarm and when and
when the alarm goes. Instead of

1092
01:03:00,930 --> 01:03:04,710
the ring that we in in the West
might be used to the lights pop

1093
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:05,130
on

1094
01:03:10,889 --> 01:03:14,879
and it's my favourite my
favourite trinket that I brought

1095
01:03:14,879 --> 01:03:15,659
back from Iraq

1096
01:03:15,689 --> 01:03:18,839
Yes, not bad enough that when
you're in one of these cities

1097
01:03:18,839 --> 01:03:23,159
with the you know, 500 mosques
all cranking out the call for

1098
01:03:23,159 --> 01:03:25,859
prayer at the same time as loud
as they can that you'd have a

1099
01:03:25,859 --> 01:03:28,439
clock to do it inside that was

1100
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,500
made in China. I might point
that makes

1101
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:37,290
sense. Yeah. But they have Yeah,
it's it's anyways, this is just

1102
01:03:37,410 --> 01:03:42,660
it gets very noisy. But you
know, the funny some of those

1103
01:03:42,660 --> 01:03:44,820
guys can really hate it. There
actually are some Yeah, I've

1104
01:03:44,820 --> 01:03:47,430
heard some of these guys
actually have they're very

1105
01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:52,260
pleasant voices. It's very, it's
a very melodic screaming, but

1106
01:03:52,260 --> 01:03:54,510
some of these guys wow, that's
kind of cool. I should record

1107
01:03:54,510 --> 01:03:59,160
that. But it's echoey it's
distorted often.

1108
01:03:59,969 --> 01:04:03,839
The distortion bit just always
kills me. Like yeah, no, I just

1109
01:04:05,250 --> 01:04:07,800
I don't get it either. I don't
know why they you know, can't

1110
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,180
tie it down. I

1111
01:04:09,180 --> 01:04:12,180
think that they like it. They're
like Hey, that sounds good.

1112
01:04:12,210 --> 01:04:14,280
Yeah, the sound engineers go
hey, man, dude, you had some

1113
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,520
awesome sound yesterday on your
show. It was really cool. I'm

1114
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:17,970
telling you.

1115
01:04:19,020 --> 01:04:22,380
i That's what my thinking was
when I you know because of these

1116
01:04:22,380 --> 01:04:24,000
call for prayers all being
distorted.

1117
01:04:24,030 --> 01:04:28,590
Speaking of that, did you see
this thing the oh, I want to say

1118
01:04:28,590 --> 01:04:34,500
it's the Kareena and I forgotten
the name. It's an iPhone app

1119
01:04:35,070 --> 01:04:40,410
that is on the iPhone store. And
you hold the iPhone up with the

1120
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,220
glass touchscreen side up you
hold it between two between your

1121
01:04:44,430 --> 01:04:47,310
thumbs and your four fingers
very much like you like you're

1122
01:04:47,310 --> 01:04:50,880
getting ready to eat a sandwich
and you blow into the

1123
01:04:50,910 --> 01:04:54,960
microphone. And then it has
basically four keys of course

1124
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,130
they're virtual on top.

1125
01:04:56,490 --> 01:04:59,610
They actually we blog site doing
Stairway to Heaven.

1126
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,090
exact maybe I saw it on your
site. Yeah. Oh, man, that thing

1127
01:05:03,090 --> 01:05:03,900
is awesome.

1128
01:05:05,069 --> 01:05:07,949
blowing on a microphone is not
such a great idea.

1129
01:05:08,969 --> 01:05:14,519
But but the instrument it looks
it's a real it's a space age

1130
01:05:14,549 --> 01:05:18,509
cool type instrument. I mean,
it's, it's for me that was like,

1131
01:05:18,839 --> 01:05:21,089
I don't know, I just It blew me
away. I'm like, wow, that's a

1132
01:05:21,089 --> 01:05:24,029
really interesting instrument
they've created. They're out of

1133
01:05:24,029 --> 01:05:24,719
an iPhone.

1134
01:05:25,050 --> 01:05:29,070
Yes. Amazing. That platform is
just astonishing. So I went to

1135
01:05:29,070 --> 01:05:33,510
cost talking about platforms. So
I went to Costco yesterday to

1136
01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:38,280
get something. And so I go past
the you know, I'm always when

1137
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,620
you go to Costco, you first
thing you do is you go, and you

1138
01:05:40,620 --> 01:05:44,940
look at all the flat screens,
and you go, Huh, and you and

1139
01:05:44,970 --> 01:05:50,250
they have actually the 42 inch
plasma from Panasonic, on sale

1140
01:05:50,250 --> 01:05:54,870
for 699 bucks. And I remember
when the first 42 inch plasma

1141
01:05:54,870 --> 01:06:00,540
was shown at a CES show, gotta
know 15 years ago or 10 years or

1142
01:06:00,540 --> 01:06:04,650
whatever, some time back. They
were $40,000.

1143
01:06:05,699 --> 01:06:09,269
Yeah, and this was maybe only
five years ago, I think

1144
01:06:09,270 --> 01:06:12,450
was a while I think we're we're
we're under estimating the

1145
01:06:12,450 --> 01:06:16,620
timeframe, but it was, it was a
$40,000 because you'd asked him

1146
01:06:16,620 --> 01:06:18,630
well, then you know, we only
make a few that 40,000 bucks.

1147
01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:21,450
And these were the 42 inch
because at original plasmas are

1148
01:06:21,450 --> 01:06:24,750
only 42 inch, and then they got
bigger. So he so now I'm looking

1149
01:06:24,750 --> 01:06:27,780
at the exact same technology
probably improved quite a bit

1150
01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:33,270
for 699 bucks. Wow, I know. It's
amazing. But anyway, so. So

1151
01:06:33,270 --> 01:06:36,300
there's that I still think a 50
is about the size I wouldn't

1152
01:06:36,300 --> 01:06:39,990
mind having. Anyway, so the I go
around the corner and they have

1153
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:43,350
all these laptops for sale. And
we just did a thing on cranky

1154
01:06:43,350 --> 01:06:46,290
geeks complaining about you know
how Apple's overpricing their

1155
01:06:46,290 --> 01:06:49,080
laptops and down economy,
they're gonna probably, you

1156
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,800
know, it's gonna it's gonna hurt
the company. And they were you

1157
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,020
know, they're gonna know what
these things are selling for the

1158
01:06:55,020 --> 01:06:57,210
apples because they didn't have
any there but there there was a

1159
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:58,140
credible

1160
01:06:58,919 --> 01:07:01,289
let me let me let me guess the
price. Let me guess the price?

1161
01:07:01,289 --> 01:07:01,679
Well, let me

1162
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,020
describe the machine person and
you tell me the price. All

1163
01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:09,540
right, it was a credible 15 and
a half inch full keyboard full

1164
01:07:09,540 --> 01:07:14,640
screen beautiful machine with
250 gigabyte hard drive. But

1165
01:07:14,670 --> 01:07:17,940
double DDR memory. It was a
gateway. And it was just it was

1166
01:07:18,060 --> 01:07:19,230
it was like if you're gonna buy

1167
01:07:19,230 --> 01:07:22,680
a laptop, what's the processor
speed processor speed it we had

1168
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:23,280
a dual core

1169
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,220
some it was fat. It was fast.
Yeah, I bet didn't have the

1170
01:07:26,220 --> 01:07:27,420
exact speed on there.

1171
01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:30,390
But So this obviously does not
qualify as a netbook, which is

1172
01:07:30,390 --> 01:07:32,580
what everyone's talking about.
Not it's not a netbook they had

1173
01:07:32,580 --> 01:07:37,410
netbooks there, too. I'll say
I'll say a 299. No, well, that's

1174
01:07:37,410 --> 01:07:37,740
Well,

1175
01:07:37,739 --> 01:07:41,729
that would be nice. No, it's
599. And I thought it was for

1176
01:07:41,729 --> 01:07:46,469
the, for the machine for what it
was. And it also was a good had

1177
01:07:46,739 --> 01:07:50,129
kind of an enamelled bread case.
It was gorgeous. Yeah. And it

1178
01:07:50,129 --> 01:07:51,119
was fine. Yeah,

1179
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,430
no, I've seen these. These are
the ones that are the you can

1180
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:56,250
get in all kinds of different
colours. Yeah, yeah, no, there's

1181
01:07:56,250 --> 01:07:58,860
a big push for this. They're
they're advertising them all

1182
01:07:58,860 --> 01:08:02,760
over the UK. I think it's
really, really pushing a younger

1183
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,820
market did it seem like that
from the store model and

1184
01:08:06,389 --> 01:08:08,639
just had them all lined up? It
wasn't, you know, they weren't

1185
01:08:08,669 --> 01:08:11,189
doing anything fancier than
that. But I mean, the more

1186
01:08:11,189 --> 01:08:14,669
expensive ones were like 899.
And they were loaded. And they

1187
01:08:14,669 --> 01:08:17,489
did have a netbook there. And
the netbook was 399 It wasn't

1188
01:08:17,489 --> 01:08:19,829
299. But they had a net book for
three night, which was you could

1189
01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:25,949
actually use it had a little it
was little, but I'm thinking 599

1190
01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:28,559
For this laptop was like, wow,

1191
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,130
I stood in line for three hours
for the

1192
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,720
for the Google phone. And that
was a little throwback to you,

1193
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:37,170
my dear.

1194
01:08:39,779 --> 01:08:41,879
You made a joke on tech five
about that?

1195
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,929
I did. Yeah. Oh, but people
standing in line knots standing

1196
01:08:45,929 --> 01:08:46,859
in line for the Google phone.

1197
01:08:47,099 --> 01:08:49,319
Anyway, so I got the Google
phone. And what I'm most

1198
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:51,929
impressed with, it's useless as
a phone that it made. It's no

1199
01:08:51,929 --> 01:08:54,119
battery life has a whole bunch
of things really wrong with it.

1200
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:55,859
But the operating system.

1201
01:08:57,810 --> 01:08:59,610
Interesting. Boy,

1202
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:04,649
well, if my understanding is
that the Android operating

1203
01:09:04,649 --> 01:09:08,729
system is open source, right.
And which means that gates

1204
01:09:08,729 --> 01:09:12,449
transportable that seems to me
like a fantastic operating

1205
01:09:12,449 --> 01:09:17,699
system for. Net, let's just call
it net devices. Could be a net

1206
01:09:17,699 --> 01:09:22,769
book or anything. Just I was
pleasantly surprised by how much

1207
01:09:22,769 --> 01:09:25,199
I could have got actually get
done with the operating system.

1208
01:09:27,089 --> 01:09:31,229
And take into account if you
well, really, anything I would

1209
01:09:31,229 --> 01:09:34,109
do on a computer because of the
integration with the Google

1210
01:09:34,109 --> 01:09:37,949
services. So okay, so you know,
I needed to create a Word

1211
01:09:37,949 --> 01:09:40,379
document, you know, even though
I know you're not a big fan of

1212
01:09:40,379 --> 01:09:43,229
cloud computing, but I can see
certainly, in fact, the other

1213
01:09:43,229 --> 01:09:46,439
day I don't use Google Docs very
often if at all, but I didn't

1214
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,229
have my computer with me. So
fired up a browser and open up a

1215
01:09:49,229 --> 01:09:51,719
Google Word doc and you know,
saved it and it was quite

1216
01:09:51,719 --> 01:09:54,749
convenient for for the point
that I was using it which is,

1217
01:09:54,899 --> 01:09:58,679
you know, not like real office,
share document type stuff, which

1218
01:09:58,679 --> 01:10:02,819
is what office three maintains,
and links and integration etc.

1219
01:10:02,819 --> 01:10:06,479
But just to write something, and
I could see how the Android

1220
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:13,019
operating system would fulfil
the needs of maybe as high as

1221
01:10:13,019 --> 01:10:17,069
90% of all computer users, you
know, you take all that, well,

1222
01:10:17,099 --> 01:10:19,709
consumer computer users, let's
put it that way. Well, the thing

1223
01:10:19,710 --> 01:10:23,670
is, you know, design I mean,
this is they realise that this

1224
01:10:23,670 --> 01:10:26,400
is a platform. So yeah, it could
it could happen when we we can

1225
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,140
transition this sort of thing.

1226
01:10:28,740 --> 01:10:32,790
I wouldn't mind it just as if I
had a little netbook type thing

1227
01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:34,680
that I carried around. This is
the kind of stuff I would want

1228
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,290
it to do. I really would I don't
want to I saw what happened with

1229
01:10:37,290 --> 01:10:40,470
Windows smaller, because I had
we knew I had that god awful

1230
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:45,750
smartphone for a day, which I
gave back to Chris Cravens

1231
01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:51,150
crying. So please don't make me
do this again. So making window

1232
01:10:51,150 --> 01:10:55,680
smaller, literally smaller in
execution space or whatever, as

1233
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,590
well as display just doesn't
work. It needs something that's

1234
01:10:58,590 --> 01:11:01,050
built from a different mindset.
And I think they've got

1235
01:11:01,050 --> 01:11:02,700
something going on there. I was
impressed.

1236
01:11:03,420 --> 01:11:06,690
Well, good. Steve Ballmer came
out and said that it was a dead

1237
01:11:06,690 --> 01:11:08,760
end. And it was they could never
make any money.

1238
01:11:08,910 --> 01:11:11,430
Because it's an operating
system. He doesn't want people

1239
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:12,960
to replace his operating system.

1240
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:17,430
Apparently not. Maybe he should
replace his operating system.

1241
01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:21,120
That's what I'm thinking. So but
anyway, so the phone Yeah, I

1242
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,310
haven't heard any, nobody's
buying these phones. I mean, you

1243
01:11:23,310 --> 01:11:26,040
know, I think the phone has
potential, it may may sneak up

1244
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,580
on Apple. But it's almost like a
replay of the history of the

1245
01:11:29,580 --> 01:11:33,270
computing business almost like a
fractal. We have like Apple

1246
01:11:33,270 --> 01:11:37,530
coming out with like to do with
the Apple two, with a new device

1247
01:11:37,530 --> 01:11:40,860
that is a in this case, the
opera you have kind of a

1248
01:11:40,860 --> 01:11:44,160
computer nook, tablet, computer,
a new platform, the iPhone, and

1249
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,040
they, you know, kind of own the
place for a while. And then the

1250
01:11:47,070 --> 01:11:51,090
guy, you know, the PC mentality
comes along, they're more open

1251
01:11:51,090 --> 01:11:53,550
and less rigid, you know what to
sell through the Apple Store?

1252
01:11:53,730 --> 01:11:55,680
All the advantages, you know,
you just need a couple of

1253
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,820
credit, you just need one or
two, you know, killer apps. In

1254
01:11:59,820 --> 01:12:03,420
other words, something that in
the case of the apple two, it

1255
01:12:03,420 --> 01:12:06,300
was dominated when it first came
out with VisiCalc made the apple

1256
01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:09,600
two and started the personal
computer revolution. And as soon

1257
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,860
as Lotus 123 showed up on the
PC, the whole everything

1258
01:12:13,860 --> 01:12:14,550
shifted.

1259
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,990
Yeah, I had jazz that those
guys, there's

1260
01:12:19,110 --> 01:12:23,250
jazz and symphony. Yeah, those
guys got denied. But jazz was

1261
01:12:23,310 --> 01:12:24,600
also done by Lotus.

1262
01:12:26,189 --> 01:12:27,929
Huh? You're right.

1263
01:12:29,970 --> 01:12:35,220
I remember when we took our
company public in 1996 was a

1264
01:12:35,220 --> 01:12:40,320
huge problem, because the entire
legal and financial system would

1265
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:46,290
only work with WordPerfect 4.1.
And it has to do with the

1266
01:12:46,290 --> 01:12:49,920
formatting. And of course, we
were all on Windows 95 and

1267
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:54,480
office 95. And, and the amount
of time and subsequently money

1268
01:12:54,480 --> 01:13:00,780
that was spent on transcoding
documents from an office format

1269
01:13:00,780 --> 01:13:04,980
to a word perfect format was
hundreds of 1000s I'm convinced

1270
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,840
goodly transcoding is a problem
that's never gonna go away. I

1271
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,760
mean, we have to do that with
our data. We're putting our

1272
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,750
stuff on like CDs and that's I
mean, I'm still have so I'd be

1273
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:18,180
everyone's who I find some old
CD. Oh, I forgot I even had

1274
01:13:18,180 --> 01:13:20,730
this. It was a backup of
something. Put it into a worried

1275
01:13:20,730 --> 01:13:20,910
Yeah,

1276
01:13:20,969 --> 01:13:25,709
I have tapes. I have our wedding
tapes. I have many, many

1277
01:13:25,709 --> 01:13:29,789
television shows. You know,
they're all on us VHS or worse.

1278
01:13:30,299 --> 01:13:33,089
You know, I have some on U
Matic. I even have foreign two

1279
01:13:33,089 --> 01:13:36,629
inch and four inch BNC reels.
This is you can't find players

1280
01:13:36,629 --> 01:13:37,409
for him anymore.

1281
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,740
Right. I know, everyone's
scrambling to get those old

1282
01:13:40,740 --> 01:13:43,560
Ampex. There's only a few those
Ampex, you know.

1283
01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:49,470
Yeah, the two inch forehead
machines. I used to, I used to

1284
01:13:49,470 --> 01:13:52,710
calibrate those and they taught
me how to do it. As you say, you

1285
01:13:52,710 --> 01:13:55,170
put your tape on you get your
bars up, right and you get your

1286
01:13:55,170 --> 01:13:58,170
scope going because you had to
calibrate it on an oscilloscope.

1287
01:13:58,500 --> 01:14:01,680
And then you actually had to
kick the machine bottom left,

1288
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,010
just a little like tap there and
then you started moving the

1289
01:14:05,010 --> 01:14:07,740
knobs and it worked and that's
how you calibrated them

1290
01:14:08,939 --> 01:14:11,369
delete one of the probably were
the last few guys that can do

1291
01:14:11,369 --> 01:14:11,759
that.

1292
01:14:11,850 --> 01:14:14,280
And here's something I was
talking about the guys that are

1293
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,670
studio with me vo headquarters
the other day. They were like,

1294
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,400
you know, shining lights around
and moving stuff and was shining

1295
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,310
into the camera. And I said you
know there was a day when if you

1296
01:14:23,310 --> 01:14:25,860
did that if you shone a light
into the camera, you will

1297
01:14:25,860 --> 01:14:28,650
probably have a camera operator
come up to you and hit you in

1298
01:14:28,650 --> 01:14:32,760
the face with a fist. You write
down your throat because it

1299
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,020
would burn into

1300
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:37,830
the actual tube to vidicon
tubes. Yeah.

1301
01:14:38,010 --> 01:14:41,430
And we had a guy whose job he
was called the shader member

1302
01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:45,150
those the shader the shade. No,
but I know what they did. Yeah,

1303
01:14:45,150 --> 01:14:47,640
the shader would sit in the
control room, along with a

1304
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,190
vision mixer, as they call it
then and the director and the

1305
01:14:50,190 --> 01:14:53,220
assistant director and the audio
engineer and the tape ops, or

1306
01:14:53,220 --> 01:14:56,130
sometimes tape ops were in a
separate compartment and the

1307
01:14:56,130 --> 01:15:00,420
shader would have let's say you
had five or six cameras And he

1308
01:15:00,420 --> 01:15:03,690
would have all of these almost
like throttles on on an

1309
01:15:03,690 --> 01:15:07,530
aeroplane or a ship, these big
controls, and he would sit there

1310
01:15:07,530 --> 01:15:10,770
and he would be continuously
making the light level he would

1311
01:15:10,770 --> 01:15:14,430
be shading the cameras so that
you didn't have one, all of a

1312
01:15:14,430 --> 01:15:16,620
sudden it was really light and
the other one was really dark.

1313
01:15:16,740 --> 01:15:19,740
And also, you know, he would
protect as much as he could all

1314
01:15:19,740 --> 01:15:24,330
the other equipment from a big
light burst back in

1315
01:15:25,290 --> 01:15:28,560
that during that era, that's a
Christian they had a, you know,

1316
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,440
before we came with CCD
technology, which doesn't have

1317
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:31,980
this burden,

1318
01:15:31,979 --> 01:15:34,649
what Ron said was chips, it was
like, Oh, my gosh, we can you

1319
01:15:34,649 --> 01:15:37,919
know, we can do concerts, and we
could go back in the day, you

1320
01:15:37,949 --> 01:15:41,159
you can still probably rent old
contracts where you see a camera

1321
01:15:41,159 --> 01:15:44,819
move across the lights, and then
for at least 15 or 20 seconds,

1322
01:15:44,819 --> 01:15:47,969
you'll still see the trails of
the lights in the in the video.

1323
01:15:48,420 --> 01:15:51,120
And the tube. Yeah, I know it's
a real problem. But did that's

1324
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,950
where the idea of you can't wear
white shirts. That's right. So

1325
01:15:55,950 --> 01:15:59,040
you all you can't wear a white
shirt, you have to wear a blue

1326
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,290
shirt. And people should notice
that most people still believe

1327
01:16:01,290 --> 01:16:04,950
this is true. But in fact, you
can wear a white shirt. Well,

1328
01:16:04,980 --> 01:16:08,340
let me let me just change that
it does, it does change the

1329
01:16:08,340 --> 01:16:10,620
aperture sometimes because a lot
of this stuff is automated. But

1330
01:16:10,890 --> 01:16:13,890
let me just let me just jump in
that for one second. We were

1331
01:16:13,890 --> 01:16:18,390
watching the MTV European music
awards two days ago, Kanye West

1332
01:16:18,390 --> 01:16:21,750
who always has to have some big
production number. They they put

1333
01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:24,750
down some note their ballet
floor, which was it was a kind

1334
01:16:24,750 --> 01:16:27,810
of in the centre of the audience
stage was black the whole

1335
01:16:27,810 --> 01:16:31,140
evening, they roll out a white
ballet floor. He came out

1336
01:16:31,230 --> 01:16:35,070
completely dressed in white
except for a black tie from head

1337
01:16:35,070 --> 01:16:38,760
to toe. And he had white shoes
on. He looked like a floating

1338
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:43,800
head. It was the funniest thing
is sometimes you I mean, if

1339
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,290
you're doing white on white, it
doesn't work. I don't care what

1340
01:16:46,290 --> 01:16:46,800
you say.

1341
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,920
Yeah, no, I'm sure you've done.
I don't recommend people wear

1342
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,160
white. I'm just saying you can
do it. But in the olden days, if

1343
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:57,720
you were white, you'd burn out
to tube flare. The other problem

1344
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,380
is, you know, white, and there's
still illegal colours that seem

1345
01:17:01,380 --> 01:17:05,070
to have issues with even when
the CCDs are called illegal. And

1346
01:17:05,070 --> 01:17:08,730
there's a red that you can't use
because it flares it doesn't it

1347
01:17:08,730 --> 01:17:11,880
won't your camera can't focus on
it. And it says, And the problem

1348
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,120
with some of these reds is they
have a and you'll see this if

1349
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:19,650
you look at Chapman actually
call it a flare, fuzzy edge.

1350
01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:24,810
They call it a flare. And it
does still occur. Usually on

1351
01:17:24,810 --> 01:17:28,320
location shoots when the sun is
coming from a weird angle and

1352
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,260
they have of course has all
colours of it in the in the

1353
01:17:31,260 --> 01:17:34,320
light spectrum. And you get a
flare and then you have to block

1354
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:35,460
block it off somehow.

1355
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:39,810
But yeah, in the olden days,
yeah, you're right. These guys

1356
01:17:39,810 --> 01:17:43,050
were not happy when you put a
light in the camera,

1357
01:17:43,110 --> 01:17:46,590
though, they would literally
knock your teeth out. Because

1358
01:17:46,590 --> 01:17:47,850
they were responsible for it.

1359
01:17:49,530 --> 01:17:52,560
So that's our old debt. Ladies
and gentlemen, is our old time

1360
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:53,790
broadcasting anecdote.

1361
01:17:53,849 --> 01:17:57,839
Well, I've got plenty more. But
it was fun because I literally

1362
01:17:57,839 --> 01:18:01,049
Trent you were probably around
when they still had three or

1363
01:18:01,049 --> 01:18:04,559
four lenses on the camera and
would twist them. Instead of

1364
01:18:04,559 --> 01:18:06,659
zooming. Tell me it's not true.
It wasn't

1365
01:18:06,660 --> 01:18:12,600
on TV, then my wife, Patricia
was actually when I was a little

1366
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:18,720
kid in Chicago, I would go to WG
and I believe and then because

1367
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:22,470
they had an open studio with it
with a with a kind of a gallery

1368
01:18:22,500 --> 01:18:26,820
that you could go and watch. It
was the first all colour station

1369
01:18:27,540 --> 01:18:29,190
when they were making the
transition from Black and White

1370
01:18:29,670 --> 01:18:32,190
Station in Chicago. They went
all colour right away if you

1371
01:18:32,190 --> 01:18:34,350
want for some. Well, I'm

1372
01:18:34,350 --> 01:18:35,790
sorry 1951 I

1373
01:18:35,789 --> 01:18:39,479
think? No, no, it wasn't no, it
was it was later that was later

1374
01:18:39,509 --> 01:18:41,669
it was it was much later than
that. I don't think that colour

1375
01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:46,019
thing began until the mid 30s At
least 5657 is when it started.

1376
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,769
Anyway, so I go I would go in
there as a little kid and I

1377
01:18:49,769 --> 01:18:53,519
would just sit there and watch
them do TV. But they had those

1378
01:18:53,519 --> 01:18:55,799
old clunking I mean they had the
first colour camera those things

1379
01:18:55,799 --> 01:18:58,889
were huge. And they had the big
crazy lens. They didn't have the

1380
01:18:58,889 --> 01:19:02,699
zoom lens yet which is you know
changed things a lot. But when

1381
01:19:02,879 --> 01:19:06,809
but it is it's a throwback to
when they first tried to do

1382
01:19:06,809 --> 01:19:10,829
HDTV. And if you went to the CES
show when they when they were

1383
01:19:10,829 --> 01:19:15,569
doing analogue HDTV was never
caught on I think the Japanese

1384
01:19:15,569 --> 01:19:19,439
invested heavily into and lost
their pants. But they had the

1385
01:19:19,469 --> 01:19:25,049
the HDTV cameras that were for
analogue were unbelievable. They

1386
01:19:25,049 --> 01:19:29,489
would look like a 70 millimetre
kind of gave me they were huge,

1387
01:19:29,579 --> 01:19:32,489
monstrous monstrosity
monstrosities and you can just

1388
01:19:32,489 --> 01:19:35,039
see oh man, these guys aren't
good. Nobody's going HDTV if

1389
01:19:35,039 --> 01:19:38,339
they're gonna have to buy these
cameras. And it but it reminded

1390
01:19:38,339 --> 01:19:41,489
me of these huge clunky colour
cameras that they used to use.

1391
01:19:42,869 --> 01:19:43,619
Anyway, there's so

1392
01:19:43,620 --> 01:19:47,190
much there's so much that has
changed so quickly and I've seen

1393
01:19:47,190 --> 01:19:49,230
how some of the Patricia has
gone through most of the change

1394
01:19:49,230 --> 01:19:52,350
pretty well because she she
always jokes herself saying that

1395
01:19:52,350 --> 01:19:55,410
she's from the Bakelite phone
era era, which of course you

1396
01:19:55,410 --> 01:19:59,010
remember those John Bakelite
phones. I remember them I had a

1397
01:19:59,010 --> 01:20:00,810
Bakelite phone and My room I
still

1398
01:20:00,810 --> 01:20:04,290
have one Yeah, sure. No and with
no HR wind down I mean, I think

1399
01:20:04,290 --> 01:20:06,450
they're collectible. There's
just the coolest phone. Yeah.

1400
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:10,679
And the carbon based and of
course it was Rotary. Remember

1401
01:20:10,679 --> 01:20:13,739
that when we had to turn a dial
to connect to someone know that

1402
01:20:13,739 --> 01:20:14,099
John?

1403
01:20:15,180 --> 01:20:17,760
No, I don't know when when was
that? I must remember remember

1404
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,430
prank phone calls and you just
dial a number at random that

1405
01:20:20,430 --> 01:20:24,000
culture has gone man. That's
gone.

1406
01:20:25,229 --> 01:20:27,689
Well, you can still doubt phone
numbers at random but people

1407
01:20:27,690 --> 01:20:30,360
don't do it, do they? Because
you can email people at random

1408
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,120
you can text people at random is
no fun. Like our lives are too

1409
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,450
filled up with other shit. No
time to play pranks. Unless, of

1410
01:20:36,450 --> 01:20:40,080
course you're calling Sarah
Palin and pretending foreign

1411
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:41,700
dignitary. Yeah,

1412
01:20:41,700 --> 01:20:48,960
well, that was good for five
minutes of attention. So there's

1413
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:53,430
also thing called caller ID and
laws against prank calls Frou

1414
01:20:53,460 --> 01:20:53,970
Frou.

1415
01:20:55,830 --> 01:20:58,740
That's what I'm saying, Man, the
culture is gone. All the good

1416
01:20:58,740 --> 01:21:03,210
stuff, all the fun stuff. We had
joy. We had fun. We had seasons

1417
01:21:03,210 --> 01:21:04,110
in the sun.

1418
01:21:05,910 --> 01:21:08,610
Really? Yes. It's I guess we're
running out of material.

1419
01:21:09,990 --> 01:21:13,590
No, I could talk. Well, I'm
still miffed that you say that.

1420
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:15,930
I'm putting my reputation at
stake by saying we shouldn't

1421
01:21:15,930 --> 01:21:17,730
just throw bombs at people for
no reason.

1422
01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:21,899
No, I never said that. I said
that fact that you're defending

1423
01:21:21,899 --> 01:21:24,389
the Taliban. You're putting your
reputation at stake.

1424
01:21:24,719 --> 01:21:29,369
Online. Here's the only thing
I'm defending the poppy fields,

1425
01:21:29,369 --> 01:21:34,019
we're almost gone under the
Taliban regime. When the

1426
01:21:34,049 --> 01:21:38,519
coalition forces moved in, they
move back up to 120% capacity.

1427
01:21:39,149 --> 01:21:42,359
That's all I'm saying. See any
jets lately that crash that had

1428
01:21:42,359 --> 01:21:46,529
coke on board that have a
government seal on the side? You

1429
01:21:46,529 --> 01:21:47,639
shouldn't Google that.

1430
01:21:48,510 --> 01:21:52,590
Yeah, yeah, you should google
that. A jet crashed with Phil

1431
01:21:52,590 --> 01:21:57,720
with coke. Bluebird Coke is not
the same as heroin. Part of the

1432
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:57,990
world.

1433
01:21:58,019 --> 01:22:02,309
I'm sorry. You're right. That's
that we've got our hands all

1434
01:22:02,309 --> 01:22:05,099
over that too. Now that's a
heroin coming from Afghanistan.

1435
01:22:06,599 --> 01:22:09,719
And the other flights are always
coming from. There's a whole

1436
01:22:09,719 --> 01:22:13,949
scheme for this. For this drug
running. It's around contracts

1437
01:22:13,949 --> 01:22:14,699
the same thing.

1438
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:20,310
So if anybody wants to see a
good movie check out is really

1439
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:23,850
fascinating. Actually. The movie
is a documentary called Cocaine

1440
01:22:23,850 --> 01:22:29,460
Cowboys. Oh, detail. Oh, J was
on HBO recently I watched it was

1441
01:22:29,460 --> 01:22:32,820
just like just a jaw dropper,
because it did tells the entire

1442
01:22:32,820 --> 01:22:38,520
story. Arizona thing? No, no,
this is mostly about Florida.

1443
01:22:39,630 --> 01:22:43,020
And including the era just
before I guess it was before

1444
01:22:43,020 --> 01:22:45,900
Ronald Reagan during the Carter
administration. You could just

1445
01:22:45,900 --> 01:22:50,730
basically fly tonnes of cocaine
into the country land. And you

1446
01:22:50,730 --> 01:22:53,250
know, the cops were in on the
deal. And you could you know,

1447
01:22:53,250 --> 01:22:55,320
dunloe with my promise, there
was no

1448
01:22:55,380 --> 01:22:58,470
yeah, this is what Doc McGhee
Bon Jovi's manager was caught

1449
01:22:58,470 --> 01:23:01,350
for. And he had to do that for
you that, you know, that benefit

1450
01:23:01,350 --> 01:23:05,460
concert in Russia, but I went to
it because his jet was flying

1451
01:23:05,460 --> 01:23:07,020
shit into into Florida.

1452
01:23:07,649 --> 01:23:10,769
So it's a very fit, but they
have a lot of the players that

1453
01:23:10,769 --> 01:23:13,949
didn't get killed. And then they
talked about this crazy woman

1454
01:23:14,249 --> 01:23:19,319
who was like, boy, this is
frightening, horrible woman who

1455
01:23:19,319 --> 01:23:24,419
was like the Kakapo of the whole
scene down there at one point,

1456
01:23:24,869 --> 01:23:29,549
it was just a blood thirsty
person. And it's just a really

1457
01:23:29,549 --> 01:23:33,089
interesting documentary. And but
they two or three of the guys

1458
01:23:33,089 --> 01:23:36,329
that were obviously heavy into
it, or you know, you know, they

1459
01:23:36,329 --> 01:23:38,759
went to jail, they came out in
it and they were like, narrating

1460
01:23:38,759 --> 01:23:41,849
a lot of this. And there's
anecdotes are just fascinating,

1461
01:23:41,849 --> 01:23:45,569
because it was just one thing
after another, it just and he

1462
01:23:45,569 --> 01:23:50,039
also, you know, discuss the
Miami Vice stories and how they

1463
01:23:50,039 --> 01:23:52,199
were bold, because you know,
this would never have been done

1464
01:23:52,199 --> 01:23:55,199
that way. It was then a dead end
with long descriptions of the

1465
01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:59,849
mechanisms of, you know, bring
something in and not get caught

1466
01:23:59,849 --> 01:24:02,549
and and ignore we could point
the finger at you. And it's very

1467
01:24:02,549 --> 01:24:02,999
interesting.

1468
01:24:03,030 --> 01:24:07,320
Grizelda Blonko, also known as
La Madrina, the godmother, the

1469
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:13,350
Black Widow and the cocaine
queen of Miami. Her man, she

1470
01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:17,070
looks gnarly. Looks like she
looks like she could be on The

1471
01:24:17,070 --> 01:24:18,540
Sopranos as a guy.

1472
01:24:19,349 --> 01:24:24,659
She's a she was a mean person.
And they she disappeared.

1473
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,570
So anyway, so if you follow all
those lines, was there any

1474
01:24:27,570 --> 01:24:31,020
mention of the Bush family in
that because the Bush family

1475
01:24:31,020 --> 01:24:34,170
definitely had they had planes
and all kinds of stuff going on

1476
01:24:34,170 --> 01:24:35,250
there during that time.

1477
01:24:35,610 --> 01:24:38,520
There's a lot of good stuff in
it. Just watch it knew. But the

1478
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,770
bushes I don't believe were
mentioned. Okay.

1479
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:43,530
Would you burn that to a
discriminator?

1480
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,050
For five days play it again?

1481
01:24:46,860 --> 01:24:49,830
Oh, you didn't record it? No.
showery?

1482
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:51,540
Well, I didn't you know, I
didn't. The reason I didn't

1483
01:24:51,540 --> 01:24:53,880
record it is because I didn't
catch the very beginning so it

1484
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:55,110
comes up again. So I

1485
01:24:55,110 --> 01:24:58,890
can't I can't get either my
daughter her boyfriend or my

1486
01:24:58,890 --> 01:25:01,260
wife to watch for his crew. was
rock with me. So I had to watch

1487
01:25:01,260 --> 01:25:03,270
it alone. They they weren't
interested.

1488
01:25:04,620 --> 01:25:06,720
We think it was okay.

1489
01:25:06,899 --> 01:25:09,749
What I told you earlier in, in
the hallway the other day, I

1490
01:25:09,749 --> 01:25:12,599
didn't like that they cut
between, you know, 10 different

1491
01:25:12,599 --> 01:25:17,489
concerts? That's no good,
because it's very difficult.

1492
01:25:17,489 --> 01:25:20,339
It's hard enough, you know that.
It's almost like turning the mic

1493
01:25:20,339 --> 01:25:25,199
off during the audience reaction
to the joke. Yeah. Then he tells

1494
01:25:25,199 --> 01:25:27,569
a joke. And then they cut to a
different audience reacting.

1495
01:25:27,569 --> 01:25:30,089
It's wrong. It's a wrong rhythm.
I didn't like that at all.

1496
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,800
Yeah, it was it seemed a little
corny. And what was the point?

1497
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,580
But obviously, the way he ended
up that was very funny. You

1498
01:25:38,580 --> 01:25:42,450
know, the takeaway, which
basically it with, with all of

1499
01:25:42,450 --> 01:25:50,430
Chris Rock's material is women,
you need to you need to perform

1500
01:25:50,430 --> 01:25:55,470
oral sex on us. And ingest,
that's basically the takeaway.

1501
01:25:57,300 --> 01:25:58,680
It was fun. Yeah, it was funny.

1502
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,760
Yeah, well, once he got off the
political stuff, that was not

1503
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,490
funny. I thought he was a little
too political at the beginning.

1504
01:26:05,490 --> 01:26:07,620
And he was like preachy, and I
don't, you know, I don't like

1505
01:26:07,620 --> 01:26:11,940
watching a comic to be lectured
to, you know? Well,

1506
01:26:13,530 --> 01:26:17,670
it was less of like, humour
about the current situation and

1507
01:26:17,670 --> 01:26:20,460
more like, like a, you know,
like, he was really trying to

1508
01:26:20,460 --> 01:26:23,670
tell a story, it was
unnecessary. He doesn't need to

1509
01:26:23,670 --> 01:26:25,110
do that. Just tell some funny
jokes.

1510
01:26:28,110 --> 01:26:31,140
So anyway, the the other thing
was a couple of other things

1511
01:26:31,140 --> 01:26:34,500
that you need to watch, I'll try
to get you some copies. And I

1512
01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:37,260
don't know why Cocaine Cowboys
thing shows up all again, which

1513
01:26:37,260 --> 01:26:40,620
it should I'll see if I can get
a copy, we have to get some

1514
01:26:40,620 --> 01:26:45,510
sling boxes between the two of
us. Yeah. And send with the

1515
01:26:45,510 --> 01:26:48,030
code. So we can look at each
other's television sets, well,

1516
01:26:48,030 --> 01:26:48,540
particularly

1517
01:26:48,540 --> 01:26:51,240
so that you, you can record
stuff. That's really what's

1518
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:55,920
cool. If you can control my
Skybox or whatever I'm, I'm

1519
01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:00,420
going to set it up right on my
end when we move so So beginning

1520
01:27:00,420 --> 01:27:02,370
of the year, I'll have it all
set up, I'll have the sling

1521
01:27:03,450 --> 01:27:06,780
I'm going to have one set up in
Washington, because I like to

1522
01:27:06,780 --> 01:27:10,800
Canadian television shows a lot
of this hour has 22 minutes is

1523
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,580
one of the best. I love that
show. That's great. And so I'm

1524
01:27:14,580 --> 01:27:17,130
going to try to get that and
then I'll hook up one here and

1525
01:27:17,130 --> 01:27:19,230
then you can see the thing is
because we're on different

1526
01:27:19,230 --> 01:27:23,730
timeframes, you could actually
watch my TV remotely when I'm

1527
01:27:23,730 --> 01:27:27,570
sleeping and you can you know,
see what's on HBO or whatever

1528
01:27:27,570 --> 01:27:30,810
I'm Behalve and as I have pretty
much everything of the of the

1529
01:27:30,810 --> 01:27:36,000
Dish Network and I set pay per
view and and then you could you

1530
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,310
know I think it's inaccurate if
I can do that because you'll be

1531
01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:41,070
sleeping What if I could control
your set you know with because

1532
01:27:41,070 --> 01:27:42,690
there's a remote control thing
right? Well

1533
01:27:42,690 --> 01:27:45,000
I'm giving you your own set
because I don't want to be

1534
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,640
watching my porn and then all of
a sudden John's like flipping

1535
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,410
the channels and shit I don't
think so.

1536
01:27:49,769 --> 01:27:53,189
No, no and you're robbing Did
you disable that? I mean it's

1537
01:27:53,219 --> 01:27:56,459
there's no reason for and by the
way I've not used the up at five

1538
01:27:56,459 --> 01:27:59,129
in the morning or you know we'd
be watching TV well that's

1539
01:27:59,130 --> 01:28:00,150
what I'm watching porn

1540
01:28:04,020 --> 01:28:07,170
turned out that changing the
channel

1541
01:28:07,620 --> 01:28:10,080
and don't be changing the
channel. I'm giving you your own

1542
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:10,800
setup dude.

1543
01:28:11,490 --> 01:28:14,160
Okay, fine. I don't have a
problem with that view. I'm

1544
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,710
gonna make it right for you. And
I'm gonna make it right flip the

1545
01:28:16,710 --> 01:28:20,790
switch. So yeah, that's a good
idea. I think people should just

1546
01:28:20,790 --> 01:28:23,040
do that in general you know you
can kind of keep up it'll be a

1547
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,590
little more universal that's
what the IPTV supposed to give

1548
01:28:25,590 --> 01:28:28,860
us. This is essentially you
know, a precursor to IPTV or I

1549
01:28:28,860 --> 01:28:32,490
should be able to just go online
and punch up you know what's

1550
01:28:32,490 --> 01:28:35,880
going on on the English TV
stations and get it out right to

1551
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,490
my said immediately I don't see
what the why is a big deal to do

1552
01:28:38,490 --> 01:28:39,480
that cost

1553
01:28:39,540 --> 01:28:43,590
and cost of the experience you
can get a British TV on your

1554
01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:47,520
computer and it'll be a small
screen and you can but to stream

1555
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,940
all that shit and reasonable A
and we want it in high def right

1556
01:28:50,940 --> 01:28:54,210
because what do we have the high
def TV set for its costs we had

1557
01:28:54,210 --> 01:28:57,420
this exact same conversation on
twit when I was last on it's

1558
01:28:58,290 --> 01:29:01,830
too much eventually things no i
No

1559
01:29:01,830 --> 01:29:04,890
no, no, eventually things come
down it doesn't matter. Things

1560
01:29:04,890 --> 01:29:08,010
go down things go up cost comes
down then oh let's do HD then

1561
01:29:08,010 --> 01:29:10,740
all of a sudden the cost is up
again. I know what this shit

1562
01:29:10,740 --> 01:29:14,370
costs man. This is bandwidth is
nothing free Leo Laporte

1563
01:29:14,610 --> 01:29:17,220
bandwidth does not free
attention attention.

1564
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,540
I think is standard definition
is fine. Even for standard

1565
01:29:21,540 --> 01:29:24,300
definition, and then you want
the experience to but you don't

1566
01:29:24,300 --> 01:29:27,840
want any buffering when you when
you switch channels. So you need

1567
01:29:27,870 --> 01:29:30,090
humongous pipes. Now,

1568
01:29:30,390 --> 01:29:33,780
it's not you're not see you're
the old man here.

1569
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,530
No, I'm not the old man. I'm
being realistic about cost. I'd

1570
01:29:37,530 --> 01:29:40,890
love that. You kidding me? I was
straight. I was streaming audio

1571
01:29:40,890 --> 01:29:49,980
in 1993. On Sun Microsystems
machines with the PCM codec on

1572
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:57,720
56k modems, I built my first
modem out of carbon out of

1573
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:02,730
Bakelite phones actually and
called Bored. I had an acoustic

1574
01:30:02,730 --> 01:30:08,970
Monday on my Vic 20. And before
that I was programming on my Zed

1575
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:13,320
my Zed X ad. Most people don't
remember that one the Sinclair

1576
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:17,400
they knew this. They know the
Zed x 81. On this edX 80. Dude.

1577
01:30:18,630 --> 01:30:21,150
We call them Z. Yeah, but I'm

1578
01:30:21,149 --> 01:30:21,959
International.

1579
01:30:23,490 --> 01:30:24,750
No, that's British.

1580
01:30:25,620 --> 01:30:30,090
as well. It's the South African
to as good as as good as

1581
01:30:30,090 --> 01:30:33,600
splicing Sinclair's computers
were man that that bike thing of

1582
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,490
his that electric car that
sucked.

1583
01:30:36,540 --> 01:30:39,390
Remember that? Well, he was a
one hit wonders from what I

1584
01:30:39,390 --> 01:30:42,450
could tell. I met him a couple
of times. He's a nice guy. Sure.

1585
01:30:43,050 --> 01:30:46,920
But one of the best. One of the
best law he had his

1586
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,290
disinteresting line somebody
caught him I fight for one of

1587
01:30:49,290 --> 01:30:53,820
the writers I knew got him to
follow me quote, asking him

1588
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:59,460
because he was into simplicity.
So they asked him so Clive way

1589
01:30:59,460 --> 01:31:02,580
using an eight bit micro,
there's a transition taking

1590
01:31:02,580 --> 01:31:05,790
place between eight and 16 bit
computing. And so he says,

1591
01:31:05,790 --> 01:31:09,600
Clive, why are you using an
eight bit microprocessor? And he

1592
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,880
said, because I couldn't find a
four bit

1593
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:15,240
as funny.

1594
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:23,730
I have his original calculator.
Oh, the Sinclair calculator.

1595
01:31:23,940 --> 01:31:26,370
Yeah, little bitty thing with a
good time. Weird.

1596
01:31:27,149 --> 01:31:32,399
A lot of cool. Oh, I still have
the the Zx 80 somewhere. I've

1597
01:31:32,399 --> 01:31:38,579
got. I've got my Vic 20 This is
a stuff Patricia hates. She's

1598
01:31:38,579 --> 01:31:41,429
like you keep schlepping all
that so yeah, that's my museum.

1599
01:31:41,459 --> 01:31:43,619
When I die, then you know, some
kid will

1600
01:31:43,979 --> 01:31:45,269
die. She'll throw it out.

1601
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,500
Along with my high school T
shirts and varsity jackets from

1602
01:31:49,500 --> 01:31:54,600
college from the radio station.
My uniform from Iraq. My

1603
01:31:54,600 --> 01:32:01,050
camouflage my stamp collection.
So it's all gonna go. It's gonna

1604
01:32:01,050 --> 01:32:05,790
throw it all out. I have my
first cell phone. The one of

1605
01:32:05,790 --> 01:32:09,750
those big giant bricks. The I
got the big. Got the big brick.

1606
01:32:10,140 --> 01:32:14,820
Doing that stands up. Yeah. Oh,
I've been wanting to collect one

1607
01:32:14,820 --> 01:32:15,300
of those.

1608
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,390
Yeah, it has a really puny
battery in comparison to his

1609
01:32:18,390 --> 01:32:20,220
size. And it never lasts for
that long.

1610
01:32:20,490 --> 01:32:23,820
Right, I would love to get one
of those big stand up bricks,

1611
01:32:24,030 --> 01:32:27,270
and then kind of retrofitted
with a real cell phone inside

1612
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:28,320
and use it.

1613
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:33,240
There was it's weird because
this one here's what I did. This

1614
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:37,680
one had a connector on the back,
which was a standard rj 145 Jack

1615
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:42,480
or whatever, for a car kit. And
I found out that if you plugged

1616
01:32:42,480 --> 01:32:45,870
in the Bakelite phone handset.
Actually, that was the that was

1617
01:32:45,870 --> 01:32:48,060
not the big light anymore was
plastic but just you know

1618
01:32:48,060 --> 01:32:50,490
regular handset one of those,
you know black and black

1619
01:32:50,490 --> 01:32:53,790
handsets that would be on the
wall unit, or like a payphone.

1620
01:32:54,210 --> 01:32:56,550
And you plug that into that
because it had the same kind of

1621
01:32:56,550 --> 01:32:59,280
Jack, you plugged it in, it
would work. And so it would be

1622
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:03,540
in my car, and I'd be talking on
a regular phone on a regular

1623
01:33:03,540 --> 01:33:04,200
handset.

1624
01:33:05,939 --> 01:33:06,659
It was cool.

1625
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,110
Yeah. Probably safer for you
than putting that big device up

1626
01:33:10,110 --> 01:33:11,370
against your ear. So

1627
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:17,790
I have my original they call it
a mobile phone. And I have this

1628
01:33:17,790 --> 01:33:21,630
in the ad one. And the mobile
phone was essentially a four

1629
01:33:21,630 --> 01:33:26,280
channel two way radio with a
huge wattage on it is like 50

1630
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,700
watts or 30 watts or something,
you know, reasonably strong. And

1631
01:33:29,700 --> 01:33:32,700
you had this mounted in your car
and you have to call up. And

1632
01:33:32,700 --> 01:33:35,820
you'd have to call up with your
callsign mine was the mobile

1633
01:33:35,820 --> 01:33:43,650
operator Anton 3414. Units.
Yeah, yeah. 3414. And the mobile

1634
01:33:43,650 --> 01:33:46,200
operator would dial the call and
then you'd be talking to someone

1635
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:54,870
you'd have to say over Are you
doing good over? duplex? I'm on

1636
01:33:54,870 --> 01:33:55,860
the way home over.

1637
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,510
Yeah, that was the days of the
mobile phone. Actually, that's

1638
01:34:00,510 --> 01:34:03,690
one of the problems you have,
you know, in mobile phones, they

1639
01:34:03,690 --> 01:34:06,180
used to have these things before
the cellular system was

1640
01:34:06,180 --> 01:34:09,990
invented. Did mobile phones and
they had high wattage and people

1641
01:34:09,990 --> 01:34:12,330
would buy these digital very
expensive, it's like 1000s of

1642
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:19,740
dollars and 1000s. Yeah. To have
it in your car. And and B they

1643
01:34:19,740 --> 01:34:22,890
were never very popular. I mean,
because they were so expensive.

1644
01:34:22,890 --> 01:34:24,480
And you know, what was the
point? In

1645
01:34:24,480 --> 01:34:28,410
fact, in fact, they were they
were frowned upon by most. Oh,

1646
01:34:28,440 --> 01:34:30,420
what are you so fucking
important? You need a cell

1647
01:34:30,420 --> 01:34:33,510
phone. You're in your car, a car
phone or phone? Now we call that

1648
01:34:33,510 --> 01:34:34,110
our car phone?

1649
01:34:34,140 --> 01:34:38,040
Call it a car find a car phone?
Yeah, no. And then what?

1650
01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:41,520
Culturally changed. Now you
can't get people off these damn

1651
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:45,000
phones. They're just yakking all
day they're walking around. You

1652
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,300
can see there's like everybody's
got a phone to their head and

1653
01:34:48,300 --> 01:34:50,880
they're not talking to each
other either. They're everyone's

1654
01:34:51,540 --> 01:34:54,090
command. They've got the
bluetooth earpiece on and it's

1655
01:34:54,090 --> 01:34:56,700
like a science fiction movie.
People walking down the street.

1656
01:34:56,700 --> 01:34:59,130
They're beaming in that checking
in. I mean, don't we realise

1657
01:34:59,130 --> 01:35:00,900
that we are living in Star Trek.

1658
01:35:02,429 --> 01:35:05,879
It's kind of I just don't I'm
not, you know, I don't think you

1659
01:35:05,879 --> 01:35:08,489
need to be that plugged in. I
don't think it's healthy. No

1660
01:35:08,489 --> 01:35:13,109
can't be camp but anyway so
people are yak, yak, yak, yak

1661
01:35:13,109 --> 01:35:16,379
and constantly. And if the if
they're not yak and then they

1662
01:35:16,379 --> 01:35:20,099
got the tube earbuds in on AI
pod and they got the sound

1663
01:35:20,099 --> 01:35:23,099
cranked up so loud, you can hear
it across the street. And of

1664
01:35:23,099 --> 01:35:25,769
course, there'll be deaf
shortly. And you know, they're

1665
01:35:25,859 --> 01:35:28,199
completely you know, if you
wanted to say something to

1666
01:35:28,199 --> 01:35:30,419
somebody on the street, like,
Hey, watch out for that curb.

1667
01:35:30,749 --> 01:35:33,269
Boom, down they go, because
they're not listening. Yeah.

1668
01:35:33,719 --> 01:35:37,049
Oh, yeah, the thing I can't walk
down the street, not listening

1669
01:35:37,049 --> 01:35:41,999
to the to the traffic, I just, I
consider it to be dangerous. And

1670
01:35:41,999 --> 01:35:46,349
I take the train first class
from Waterloo to Guilford. And

1671
01:35:46,409 --> 01:35:50,129
it's only one car. But no matter
when you're travelling in this

1672
01:35:50,129 --> 01:35:54,329
thing, but particularly going
back like on the 730 it's filled

1673
01:35:54,329 --> 01:35:57,959
with people multiple always have
a cell phone, a Blackberry and a

1674
01:35:57,959 --> 01:36:01,259
laptop and they're on all three.
Everyone's working everyone's

1675
01:36:01,259 --> 01:36:04,529
Jack, then, you know, the phones
are ringing all the time.

1676
01:36:06,030 --> 01:36:08,370
It's, it's disturbing.

1677
01:36:08,939 --> 01:36:11,909
is totally disturbing is like,
what are you getting out of

1678
01:36:11,909 --> 01:36:13,439
this? You know,

1679
01:36:14,429 --> 01:36:16,319
and you're used to having guy
that wouldn't have come by and

1680
01:36:16,319 --> 01:36:18,569
he had papers and stuff, right?
They don't have that anymore. No

1681
01:36:18,569 --> 01:36:19,589
one's buying papers.

1682
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,290
I've now I still buy the paper.

1683
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,140
The paper is actually more
efficient than the laptop if you

1684
01:36:25,140 --> 01:36:26,880
want to really plough through a
lot of material.

1685
01:36:26,910 --> 01:36:28,950
Hell yeah. It's lighter than the
MacBook Air.

1686
01:36:29,820 --> 01:36:31,080
Yeah, except for the

1687
01:36:31,380 --> 01:36:32,910
weekend edition of the times.

1688
01:36:33,390 --> 01:36:36,960
Yeah, actually, the fact is that
we're building in in

1689
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:41,550
efficiencies, and liking it. And
it's kind of disturbing.

1690
01:36:42,090 --> 01:36:46,350
Thank you, ma'am. I have
another. That's right now we are

1691
01:36:46,350 --> 01:36:47,460
we're good slaves. John.

1692
01:36:47,490 --> 01:36:49,290
That's what it is. We're good
slaves.

1693
01:36:50,610 --> 01:36:57,540
And we're ready. We're ready to
be told what to do. Just just

1694
01:36:57,690 --> 01:37:00,990
send it to my Blackberry,
President Obama, President elect

1695
01:37:00,990 --> 01:37:07,140
Obama, and I'm ready to go. Just
tell me like and I'm waiting for

1696
01:37:07,140 --> 01:37:08,880
my small business credits.

1697
01:37:10,740 --> 01:37:14,370
Yeah, there you go. That's
that's what I'm waiting for. Who

1698
01:37:14,370 --> 01:37:15,690
else? Are you sure which way

1699
01:37:15,690 --> 01:37:18,300
tops the top of his agenda now
is at the top of his agenda,

1700
01:37:18,630 --> 01:37:22,560
credits, r&d credits for small
business, creating jobs in

1701
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,680
America. But doing all that
providing health care doing all

1702
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:28,290
that the check, check, check
ticks all my boxes, I'm ready

1703
01:37:28,290 --> 01:37:31,560
for my credit. Other people need
help with a mortgage. I don't

1704
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:36,960
need that. Just me my my credit
for the work we're doing as a

1705
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,330
small business. That's all I'm
asking for, then I'll be a

1706
01:37:39,330 --> 01:37:39,900
believer.

1707
01:37:41,430 --> 01:37:42,630
Yeah, you'll get your credit.

1708
01:37:44,070 --> 01:37:45,030
Oh, my tombstone.

1709
01:37:47,130 --> 01:37:50,700
So I think while we're waiting
for that, I think people are

1710
01:37:50,700 --> 01:37:51,960
waiting for the show to end

1711
01:37:52,140 --> 01:37:55,560
ship. That's my cue.

1712
01:37:58,260 --> 01:38:02,010
Hey, John. Let's bring that up
another time again. That was

1713
01:38:02,010 --> 01:38:02,520
kind of fun.

1714
01:38:06,899 --> 01:38:09,209
Hello, yeah. I'm in

1715
01:38:14,010 --> 01:38:14,730
I'm shocked.

1716
01:38:15,389 --> 01:38:15,839
Boy,

1717
01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:20,070
boy. I don't know. I don't know
if we because I find that um, I

1718
01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:23,850
don't know if I'm shocked more
by the loving guns at Iranians

1719
01:38:23,850 --> 01:38:26,880
or the way you eat with your
fork. I think the fork might

1720
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,110
actually have a slight lead.

1721
01:38:30,180 --> 01:38:34,410
I'm gonna take a small movie of
my eating and then we'll let the

1722
01:38:34,590 --> 01:38:35,580
public decide.

1723
01:38:35,610 --> 01:38:39,960
Yes. Oh, you like it? Thank you
man may have another you want to

1724
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:41,880
be slapped around by our
audience. They will tell you I

1725
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:46,050
will take a small movie of my
fork utilisation.

1726
01:38:46,770 --> 01:38:49,800
Yeah, with the pinky up or down
in your

1727
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:51,990
ass. Actually, that's where I
was thinking would be a good

1728
01:38:51,990 --> 01:39:05,730
spot. Hey, John. Yes. I love
you. I really do. All right.

1729
01:39:06,420 --> 01:39:10,530
Coming to you from the affluent
suburb of Surrey, in Guildford,

1730
01:39:10,530 --> 01:39:13,560
where we use our utensils
properly. My name is Adam curry.

1731
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:18,720
And I'm John C. Dvorak coming at
you from stab city in the

1732
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,780
northern part of Silicon Valley.
We'll talk to

1733
01:39:21,780 --> 01:39:24,060
you again next week unless
something important happens

1734
01:39:24,090 --> 01:39:25,410
right here on our agenda.