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Navigating the New World Order
from opposite ends of Gitmo

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nation. It's time once again for
no agenda. Greg Levin Buzzkill.

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from Gitmo nation east in
southwest London in the curry

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terrorists. I'm Adam curry.

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I'm John C. Dvorak here in
Silicon Valley north, also known

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as the get mo nation.

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Big thanks to Jeff Smith v. Jeff
Smith, for cutting that jingle

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for us.

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We'll have more hopefully you
like that though. Don't you,

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Nick? Cool. Oh, yeah, that's the
way to go. We might as well go

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back to go back to this style.
Because nobody does that stuff

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anymore. So just a gag and we
might as well just do it.

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I bet you there's still top 40
stations out there that do the

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whole let me tell you what's
going on

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Buzzkill. So sorry. See, the
problem is with you, it may just

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turn into the entire show.

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It is possible also known as
daily source code, not so weakly

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anymore.

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Yes. So the one thing I mean,
the I think most of those top 40

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shows have all deteriorated into
the zoos.

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Well, it really started with the
zoo format. I believe Scott

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Shannon is still doing I

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go back and I'm talking about
you go way back into the 60s

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before. Right. Well, of course,
you had guys like Dr. Don rose

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in the San Francisco Bay. It was
a classic example of this. He

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would have the you know the
bell. He'd have the horns in the

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honks and he'd have a million
jingles millions of jingles and

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tell jokes and play top 40 And
he's always telling jokes, in

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fact that there's one joke that
I still remember him telling you

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that I still tell this joke.

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Okay, you're gonna hit us with a
joke.

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Yeah. A nun decides to our girl
decides to go into a nunnery

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where there's a vow of silence,
but that she's allowed to say

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two words every year. So she
joins up and she's in their

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student she goes into see mother
superior to tuts to say her two

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words after one year and she
says bed hard. So she's no goes

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back into the silent mode. And
then a year later, she she the

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whole year goes by mother's
superior brings her and she says

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her two words and she said
what's your two words? It says

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food bad. So another whole year
goes by and the mother superior

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brings her and she says okay,
well what's your What are your

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two words this year? And the and
the nun says I quit Mother

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Superior says well, you doesn't
surprise me you've been doing

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nothing but complaining ever
since you got here.

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Wait, oh shit, I'm sorry.

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Oh my goodness. But it was just
like this is you know, this.

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That was the end of an era and
again, those those DJs you know,

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presumed DJs and top 40 radio
back when I mean this was like,

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pre 1970 We're making a quarter
of a million or more dollars a

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year I mean, which is equivalent
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they're well paid

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with the Morning guys in the in
the early early 80s. We're doing

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a million I mean, okay, well the
major market Yes. And Scott

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Shannon is still doing a morning
zoo on 95 Five PLJ something

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like that.

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Well anyway, those days I think
pretty much over and I don't

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know anybody who does a podcast
it runs all this all the all the

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dole the sound effects and
jingles and

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things. I come close sometimes a
little bit of the intro

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jockeying, but that's about it.
Hey, man, forget all that stuff.

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Guess where I was this morning?

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You were in Amsterdam know

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where I was visiting the queen.

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Oh is today. The day you visit
the queen? So she did this on

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Darwin Day.

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Yeah, interesting. I don't think
she has any clue that his darlin

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day

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to be honest. Okay, so let's go
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All right, so let me start at
the beginning. So first of all

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the car that picked me up John
had Wi Fi on board that was

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pretty cool. Have you ever had
that? Yeah, it was a Mercedes S

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Class and oh, no, no, you get
and so it has the the television

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monitors in the headrest in on
the front seat so you can watch

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TV in the back direct broadcast
television I might add. So It's

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a digital so none of this you
know, snowy stuff. And then nice

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there's a sticker actually I've
put it up on my Flickr site

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there's a sticker right in
between on the console of the of

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the driver, you know, the
driver's front console has Wi Fi

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on like, Hey, dude, this is so
yeah, go ahead. I just fired up

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my phone and boom got a
connection. I mean, I'm sure it

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would have been faster if I use
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idea is kind of cool, huh? Yeah,
that was nice. Drove up to

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Buckingham Palace through the
front gates. I gotta tell you

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this was very exciting to just
be kind of waved on and the you

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come in. So this is where we're,
you know, people can still walk

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at this point. It's just there's
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in the circular part. Oh, by the
way, I turned on my my Google

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Latitude so people could track
me. And I got to actually gotta

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put on the curry.com I, someone
sent me a picture of me and my

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little face that are in
Buckingham Palace, because of

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course you couldn't take
pictures cell phones had to be

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turned off. So I kind of cheated
by leaving the cell phone on but

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it's silent and I figured I just
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broadcast my location so now
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then there's there's the gates
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public is not allowed. And so
they stopped the car and then

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they check the car. Which really
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the bonnet. That's the hood to
you and I and the and the boot

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the trunk. And that was it. And
they didn't ask me anything

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didn't you only spoke to the
driver? Okay, drove through the

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gates Park to actually he has
dropped me right right off and

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you drive through the gates and
you get to this courtyard, which

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is really kind of dreary, it's
just a square courtyard is yeah,

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it's square courtyard, but on
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there's a red carpet so you stop
at the red carpet and walk up

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the red carpet and and I had my
my invite which is really just a

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piece of paper with a number on
it and my name and my photo ID

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and said oh no, you'll need that
later. So just hold on to it I

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put it in my inside pocket went
off the cloak room hung up my

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coat and then may I take your
clothes closer and then walked

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up the up the steps into kind of
this holding area. There's about

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I'd say 5060 people there
anybody you know well I'll get

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to that. So I walk in and you
know it's kind of it's really

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like a almost like a cocktail
party reception and I what I

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really tried to do is really
keep my eyes open my ears open

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because I you know I have to be
the camera now to be able to

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tell the story. So I read your
material Yeah, thank you and I

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looked at all the details the
art first of all John you would

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have shit yourself. I mean this
place this this waiting hall

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kind of a rectangular Hall all
gold by the way the ceiling

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everything is all gold. But the
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which is what because normally
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but this was Rembrandt, Vermeer,
Albert Cobb young stain all

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these fantastic Dutch masters,
you can walk right up to him.

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And and particularly the Dutch
masters would do like, you know

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marketplace scenes, and there's
always kind of sexy, funny stuff

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in there. So there's, you know,
all these weird people and you

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know, women, you know, I guess,
Loose Women on the square

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hanging out with guys. It was
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art works of art that I'd never
heard of before. You. I'm sure

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they're in a book somewhere. I
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And you might be surprised.
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the handout. The handout drinks
all the little page boys and

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girls. Beautiful. What was the
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wine, white wine, water. Orange
juice or champagne. I chose for

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champagne. They were serving
mums, champagne. Okay, which is

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always what they serve at the I
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they always serve at the
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must be the one that's approved
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And so a couple of interesting
things in this waiting room. The

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fireplaces had electric heating
elements in them, which I just

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found kind of odd. Kind of a
bummer. You know you really want

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that you know real fiery feel in
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Exactly. Well, that's what they
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the middle of this rectangular
room, there's mirrored doors

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which is we know we're going to
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in front of the mirror doors is
a huge plasma display. Showing

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the can't remember it switched
but they weren't showing the the

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new website because this is what
this was about. This was for the

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launch of the of the relaunch of
royal.gov dot UK the Royals

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website. But what's funny is the
branding it was on a stand that

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had a huge LG sign. It's pretty,
pretty, pretty lame. And every

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other monitor in the place by
the way was Panasonic. So then

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the then the doors open. And
actually I had one guy come up

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to me he's from Australia, he
was the consultant on the

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website. And so they they hired
in a consultancy, the

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consultancy then said, Okay,
here's what we think you should

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do. Then they hired another
company to build it. And he said

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they were real sticklers about
budgets, and it was pretty

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funny. So then you walk in, and
then you have your car and I

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remember I have not been
checked, I've not walked

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through. I mean, I could have
had a fucking Uzi in my ass or

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anything. And by the way, I
probably could have you know,

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anything there was no check
whatsoever. Not not at any

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moment was my identity checks.
Just nothing which I just found

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peculiar. So then the doors are
open, you walk in and then

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there's two guys and the Queen,
she's right there. And then you

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all walk in one by one and you
hand your your little piece of

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paper which has your name on it.
And then the first guy says Mr.

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Adam curry and then hands the
piece of paper to the guy next

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to the Queen and he leans over
and says Mr. Adam curry and then

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you walk up and you shake the
Queen's hand and she has a firm

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handshake I might my dad and you
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and put my finger

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there's some protocol for
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Well, another interesting thing
no one gave any any hints or

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help or whatever I'd asked I had
asked a number of people and

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they said the probably the the
best and coolest way was the

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dresser with ma'am. So I said
Pleasure to meet you man. And I

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would meet her later on which
I'll get to and so the so there

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was a cat there like you know
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so I'm hoping to get a picture
of it because that that's just

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kind of cool for the archives.
She bought five for three and

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she was wearing I swear to god
John a chroma key green suit.

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You could if we get video of
this you can key anything you

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want onto her outfit. It was
phenomenally green. But like

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that ugly kind of.

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Yeah, no, I know. That one color
green that they use the key on

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the one color green. You figured
no one ever is wearing that

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color. Well guess what? The
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Maybe Yeah, just in case, but I
was no one's keen on me. Yeah,

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really. She wore beautiful

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pearls, a huge diamond brooch
and she was continuously

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clutching her black handbag. So
everyone, you know walk out

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again it's only 56 black

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hands they had the pepper spray
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Exactly. And so then we turn
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the room they've got a nice six
panel flat screen kind of

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display unit rather large and
once again there were all served

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in the canopy has come out and
the same mom champagne and I

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asked all of these these pages I
said No What is this and they

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had little you know, the puffy
dough with the fish bits on the

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inside. I'm not quite sure what
what those would be called. But

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even there, they're twisty
breads that ask every single

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thing did you guys make this?
Oh, yes, it's all made in house.

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It's not from Marks and
Spencers. No, no, it was

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everything they passed on. Like
who made this? Did you make this

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work? So

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everything is not sawed yet.

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So it's so then then someone
comes up behind us and says,

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Could you please make a path for
the queen? So everyone kind of

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knew the sea of people parts.
And then the Queen walks in. And

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it's it's crazy because she
walks in and complete Hush. I

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mean, you could have heard a pin
drop on the carpet. It was so

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quiet. And she walks up in this
little podium there. And she

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says she's standing right and
it's very weird because you know

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how self Christian I would be
embarrassed. You know you

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because she walks up. She's
standing there. She's on

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display. Everyone's gawking at
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cool part. Who was there to to
officially launch the site with

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a little intro speech and then
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Queen. none other than Mr. Tim
Berners. Lee. No, which made

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total sense right, Sir Tim?
Yeah, yeah, Sir Tim, and I have

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I have exchanged email with him
many years ago. And of course,

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you know, let's just be honest,
this is the guy who invented the

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web, not Al Gore. He's Have you
use

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Al Gore invented the internet.

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I'm sorry. As a writer due to
the web, that's right. Owl did

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the internet and then Tim
Berners Lee did the web while

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he's certainly recognized for
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web. If you met him in person,

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yeah, actually I hung out with
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went drinking with him and he
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I think he was with his wife and
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them got when you can tell
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little place because it's like
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being in the Andes. And a lot of
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but doesn't aspirin help against
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I don't know. I never have had
it but the I know what if you

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chew coca leaves that helps a
lot the but I always take

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there's a little bar there that
is really fun to go drinking in

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which is an alcoholic all the
things you're not supposed to

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do. High altitude go drinking I
think he went there if I'm not

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mistaken, and got some sort of a
devastating headache had to

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leave a day early. So Well, sir,

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what what I thought was
interesting is he's a nice, very

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nice guy. Very nice, very nice.
And he's kind of like me, it

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kind of has, you know, like his
motor skills are kind of weird.

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He's kind of twitchy and twisty
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A little bit, you know, your
hammer, like shaking in your

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boots.

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No, no, but it was just kind of
funny, because I was like, man,

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if someone's looking at the two
of us, kind of, you know, like,

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fucking Maka. Motherfuckers. To

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be British,

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so yeah, so he wasn't, he's not
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today. He, it sounded like he
was nervous until I realized,

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yeah, he's just kind of like, a
little messed up. Let me just

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get rid of that. So he does a
little speech, which was, you

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know, completely uninteresting.
You know, he tried to kind of

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bring together the, you know,
the all the people communicating

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and we need information and
yeah, okay, Tim, we got it. It's

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free champagne, move on. And
then he hands over a a wireless

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remote to the Queen. And then
she clicks and then the website

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opens up. And they said, Oh, we
have something special. She

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clicks again. And then I guess
they have some they took high

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resolution panoramic panoramic
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the palaces, not Buckingham
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So you can kind of navigate
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the virtual walkthrough. And,
you know, so that's like, okay,

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so it's, that whole thing took
the Queen clicking on it's like,

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she's up there for like, five
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looking at a webpage. You know,
I mean, it's it. There's the

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queen in front of a big screen,
looking at a webpage. I mean,

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this is not a participatory
sport or anything, you know,

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it's kind of like, Okay, now
what are we supposed to do? And

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so, you know, somehow Tim got
every everybody out of it. Okay.

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Applause Good. There we go. And
then, you know, they had

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monitors along all along one
side of a wall. And they had

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school kids, helping people out
as they could, you know, could

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serve through this, but that, so
I figured I'd go over to hang

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out with, with Tim. And it was a
good choice. Because the Queen

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then starts mingling, I was
flabbergasted. And so I'm

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talking to Tim, who has a
foundation by the way that he

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started on had you heard about
this the World Wide Web

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Foundation?

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Is that the one that is
promoting the Semantic Web with?

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No, I don't think so. This is
more like a one abstraction

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layer lower than net neutrality.
Basically, I say, Save the one

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may have saved, saved, save the
web. And so we're talking about

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Yeah, I'm like, Hey, man was
totally good. John Doerr and Ray

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lane to pull some money out for
this because you know, those

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guys rely on it. And so of
course, he was all ears on that

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and had a little chat and then
the queen comes over starts

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talking to him. And I got you
know, I got like, one little

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word in there. Because really,
it's weird talking with the

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queen.

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Well, what do you what have you
got in common? And what are you

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going to say? Like

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nothing nothing and like, I'm
thinking there's a million

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things going through my mind
like hey, my wife is just as

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small as you want to dance. You
know, I had no idea what to say.

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How about the how about do you
know your dress is chromic Well,

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I

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said this to one of the she has
two guys who are her her

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personal guys I guess. And they
kind of span that probably about

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four or five feet now maybe six
feet distance and I just always

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kind of watching So You know,
they're more like Butler's that

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they look big enough to probably
beat you up but they're really

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proper guys. And you can see
that they're just trying to make

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it all flow and making sure no
one's bothering the Queen, but

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they really stayed at a distance
though. All time and I was

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talking to someone else. And he
overheard me talking about the

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the chroma key. And he was he
was laughing today totally.

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Because all these guys are media
savvy now I guess. And yeah, and

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I think she was there for
probably like half an hour. She

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just, you know, kept mingling
around. And I met someone

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forgot to say anything to her
like, what do you think of this

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economy anyway?

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Yeah, that was that was really
the top of my mind.

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Did you guys get in in any of
that Bernie Madoff funds.

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I want to buy some gold coins.
Get you a good deal. I did meet

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someone very good for us, John.
Or when you come and visit, I

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met the director of the British
Library. And open invitation he

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says any book you want to see,
I'll be more than happy to bring

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it out for you. And I said, Wow,
that's kind of cool. Because I

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was watching Stephen Fry last
night and he built a Gutenberg

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Printing Press. And he went any
you got to look at the one of

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the Gutenberg Bibles with the
white gloves. He says, Oh, we

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don't do white gloves. What do
you mean? So we have gotten we

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have to Gutenberg Bibles. And
you're welcome to look at it.

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You're welcome to look through
it. And we don't believe in

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gloves. We believe that the
gloves will have there's more

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chance because you have less
sensitivity in your in your

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fingers. There's more chance you
might rip a page. And yeah,

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sure, you might get a little bit
of oil on it. But hey, it's

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meant to be used. And I was

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struck by that. Huh? That's
where we're going. Yeah, so we

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had been thumbing through the
Gutenberg Bible.

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What's this thing about
Revelation? I can't figure it

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out. Can you turn on your
speaker just a bit?

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Actually, it would be a yes. It
would be interesting to have him

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bring out the Gutenberg Bible
wanted you know, whichever one

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he wants to show us with one of
the best illuminated scripts and

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and do a comparison illuminated
scripts by you know, these these

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Bibles used to be handwritten
written I mean, what before the

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Greek word Bible Yeah,
Gutenberg, you know, was

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considered the devil by many
because he mass produced the

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Bible and the Bible until it
before then were all

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individually crafted one by one
by scribe. Right. And then they

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you know, there was everyone was
baffled when the Gutenberg Bible

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first came out because all of a
sudden instead of just selling

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one or two every so often he was
selling him by the hundreds and

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people were befuddled by this
and they considered him to be

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the must have been the work of
the devil.

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Well yeah, according to the
documentary Stephen Fry did once

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he saw he got it all working and
then he had an investor and he

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you know, the investors that
I'll need my money back and then

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he didn't have the money so he
had to sell all this stuff and

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he died in poverty. Doesn't that
suck my money because I want my

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money back so you had to sell
all of his his presses and then

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you never got but it's a
fascinating story. But anyway,

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so we we could don't think of
the Magna Carta

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Yeah, that's the one I was
thinking of first first and we

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can take a look at that you know
you Oh, this is beautiful

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Okay, I just want to write down
a note here was rip off a corner

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if

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so, then I went then we then it
kind of ended it's almost like a

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prince party as in the purple
one because you know it's over

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you know, the doors open and the
and the pages and the butler's

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and they all kind of do the
lights

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flashlights, Flash, it's like

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please ladies and gentlemen, the
Queen has left the building and

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the you go out down a different
staircase, big portraits and I

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and I really took my stupid I
couldn't have really recorded

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all of this. So I'm taking my
time I'm looking at all these

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portraits and and there's one
and everywhere there's a guy you

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know, just standing there and
I'm like, you know I'm just

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looking at the beautiful art you
know that I'm here he says oh,

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no problem, sir. It just point
out which one you'd like we'll

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wrap it up and you can take it

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he said that yeah, it was funny.
Funny. Yeah. Everybody's a

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comedian everyone's

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a comedian. I made a point to go
to the bathroom or which app so

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all right big letdown big
letdown. It's like a like a

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modern airport bathroom.

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Oh that's a crime

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totally and No, no no little
because of course I was looking

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to rip something off you know
the the champagne glass was

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actually it wasn't really a
proper Shang champagne glass it

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was a wide mouth kind of STEM
glass with beautiful er two on

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it and you not something you
could slip into your pocket

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without it being very
noticeable. So I'm figuring I'll

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take a towel or something like
that. And you know if they've

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got like fucking Kleenex

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laying. Yeah, that would they
should have as they should have

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a really ornate bathroom. It's
old fashioned. And in this you'd

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have a big bucket full of the
Like matchbooks Thank you

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something like that. Right?
Right. They have the Queen's

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thing on their end and with a
sign do not take

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or we will have to add $14 to
your bill.

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And then everyone takes one of
those matchbooks home and that

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would be your see you know you
kind of your souvenir because

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people do have a feel obliged to
have some souvenir from events

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like this, whether it's a napkin
or like you said a wineglass or

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something. They always I mean,
I'm sure that the Buckingham

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Palace is just constantly being
ripped off.

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Oh, no doubt, then this was
clearly the, you know, the

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reception side of the house. But
anyway, it was it was really

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nice. And it was.

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It was Tim Berners Lee email.

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What do you mean to get his
email?

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Did you get his email, you can
mail him and tell him that

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you're going to help him get
funded for his whatever?

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Oh, yeah. No, that was the whole
that was my whole ploy to hang

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out close to the Queen. Just
like yeah, I'll get your money

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no matter. Yeah. Let me stand
here. Tim, go ahead. I'll get

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you money. Tim. Yeah, no
problem, buddy. Yeah, no. I've

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got his and rosemary leaf, who
is the director of the Worldwide

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Web Foundation. And she had her
daughter with a mess. stunningly

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beautiful girl.

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Really? Yeah. So what's to
younger, younger?

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No, I got like 16.

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So did you know anybody else
there besides Berners? Lee,

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interestingly enough, the only
other guy that I recognized was

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the CEO of blinks.

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The CEO of blinks.

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Yeah. And and he said, I have no
idea. How come I was invited. He

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is Brees British. And he
although he lives in San

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Francisco, he's old because
they're listed on the I think

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the pink slip exchange over
here. So they went public. So

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what's

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the rule? Did everyone have name
tags? Yeah, name tags you go

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looking around at people and
say, Oh, that's so and so. Yeah,

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actually,

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the name tag I did take with me
it has the little er two logo on

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it. With my name on it, but it's
not like a towel or anything. So

439
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,210
and there's no

440
00:27:18,210 --> 00:27:20,760
you didn't feel obliged. The
protest affected the House of

441
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,380
Windsor shouldn't even be in
power.

442
00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:27,360
To get your tongue say got your
tongue show me if it's split

443
00:27:27,390 --> 00:27:35,790
your reptile aren't you? Anyway,
she's almost at man. She's looks

444
00:27:35,790 --> 00:27:42,870
pretty damn good. Yeah, well,
that's a good life. Yeah, go

445
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:47,070
booze up and hang out with some
geeks and have some canopies.

446
00:27:47,070 --> 00:27:51,810
And back to bed. Whatever she
does

447
00:27:54,420 --> 00:27:56,400
she probably does at least two
of those deals a day.

448
00:27:57,780 --> 00:28:01,710
I wonder. The website is
actually interesting. The new

449
00:28:01,710 --> 00:28:06,810
website W I might as well plug
it www.royal.gov.uk

450
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,050
And now they get the high fives
going on in England. We did it

451
00:28:10,050 --> 00:28:11,400
we've gotten our publicity.

452
00:28:11,730 --> 00:28:16,080
Exactly. I hadn't even gotten
home and they were already

453
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,490
talking about the relaunch on on
radio to hear so they're good at

454
00:28:20,490 --> 00:28:26,550
it. But what's interesting about
the website is I'm just gonna

455
00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:32,220
bring it up for a second. You
can choose your Commonwealth

456
00:28:32,220 --> 00:28:38,850
Realm. So amongst the
Commonwealth of us quite a bit,

457
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,320
a lot of islands like Canada
they listed Yeah, Australia, New

458
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,670
Zealand, Canada, Jamaica,
Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas,

459
00:28:47,670 --> 00:28:51,870
Barbados, Grenada, Belize, St.
Christopher and Nevis Saint

460
00:28:51,870 --> 00:28:52,920
Lucia Italy's

461
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,260
they're an independent country.
They still in the Commonwealth.

462
00:28:55,260 --> 00:28:58,860
Yep. So used to be called a
British Honduras.

463
00:29:01,020 --> 00:29:06,180
St. Lucia, the Solomon Islands,
Tuvalu I had never heard of to

464
00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:11,820
Alou St. Vincent and the
Grenadines and Papua New Guinea

465
00:29:12,780 --> 00:29:14,730
they got all that empire still
out there

466
00:29:14,730 --> 00:29:19,140
in it. Yeah, it was kind of in
chunks but yeah, well Canada

467
00:29:19,170 --> 00:29:20,610
nice chunk to have.

468
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:25,560
The Canada thing is bet
befuddling.

469
00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:29,040
But what was funny is because I
brought this up while I was

470
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,870
there. Let me see the

471
00:29:31,140 --> 00:29:34,440
for example, Canada's got any
connection. How come when we did

472
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,250
the discharge of this war in
Iraq? We the British came in

473
00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:41,070
they contributed soldiers and
the Canadians had now we're not

474
00:29:41,070 --> 00:29:45,090
bringing sin in anybody. Why
wouldn't they be obliged if they

475
00:29:45,090 --> 00:29:48,450
were part of this thing? Or you
know, corps it just some sort of

476
00:29:48,450 --> 00:29:49,620
loose allies think

477
00:29:49,620 --> 00:29:52,500
you're incorrect? I think you're
incorrect. I think Canada has

478
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:56,010
sent troops certainly to
Afghanistan. I think so. Is

479
00:29:56,010 --> 00:29:56,430
anybody

480
00:29:56,430 --> 00:30:02,550
to Iraq? No, not to Iraq. Well,
it just seems to me that this is

481
00:30:02,550 --> 00:30:06,570
a this Commonwealth isn't very
is not what the British empire

482
00:30:06,570 --> 00:30:09,150
once was, to say the least. Oh

483
00:30:09,150 --> 00:30:12,030
no, because now this British
Empire is just a financial

484
00:30:12,030 --> 00:30:16,110
empire and working quite well
actually it taking away all of

485
00:30:16,110 --> 00:30:18,360
our physical assets so good
Anya. Queenie,

486
00:30:19,170 --> 00:30:21,720
good job to bring this up. By
the way.

487
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,320
I wish I don't have the balls
for that, man. So what did you

488
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,510
think she actually knows? You
think she cares?

489
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:30,630
She probably knows enough to
throw you out.

490
00:30:31,470 --> 00:30:33,420
Right? There's not a good idea.

491
00:30:36,660 --> 00:30:39,630
Maybe some hands are some very
interesting signal that would be

492
00:30:39,630 --> 00:30:42,690
involved that would be worth
knowing. Thanks. She probably

493
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,530
she probably just like scratches
or her left, jawbone, you know,

494
00:30:46,530 --> 00:30:49,230
just a couple of times and boom,
you're out. You'd be out on your

495
00:30:49,230 --> 00:30:49,890
ass.

496
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:54,870
Oh, Tuvalu is, is the country
where the.tv domain comes from.

497
00:30:56,430 --> 00:30:57,690
I thought that was Tonga.

498
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,180
Well, I'm just reading what's in
the chat, man.

499
00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:03,390
I don't know what I'm talking
about. Maybe telling us to. But

500
00:31:03,390 --> 00:31:03,720
I'm

501
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:11,160
looking on the site because I'm
trying to find about the prince.

502
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:17,370
I'm sorry, the Duke. Duke of
Edinburgh, Philip. Yeah, he's a

503
00:31:17,370 --> 00:31:20,520
he's a DS, the Duke isn't he? I
know. I don't keep up with that

504
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,430
crap. Because it was let me see
if I can find because I was

505
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:27,090
reading is like, the Duke has no
jobs. Basically what it says

506
00:31:27,090 --> 00:31:32,880
here it is. Crap now. I'll have
to look for it. But it was like,

507
00:31:32,910 --> 00:31:36,450
he doesn't really have a day
job, you know, day to day

508
00:31:36,450 --> 00:31:38,850
agenda. He's involved in all
kinds of stuff and does all

509
00:31:38,850 --> 00:31:42,990
kinds of meetings. Like the guy
doesn't do anything. Prince

510
00:31:42,990 --> 00:31:45,720
Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh,

511
00:31:46,650 --> 00:31:47,850
Ken Lakehurst.

512
00:31:49,290 --> 00:31:50,010
All of them.

513
00:31:51,540 --> 00:31:52,350
So

514
00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:55,350
first, I'll get a kick out of
that.

515
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,980
I mean, he doesn't listen to the
show. Let's face it. Anyway, it

516
00:31:58,980 --> 00:31:59,250
was

517
00:31:59,310 --> 00:32:00,450
it was fun.

518
00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:04,740
Fun. Good. Yeah.

519
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,010
And I'm sure I'm gay. But I'm
now that I wasn't invited.

520
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:09,900
Especially now the blinks guy
was you

521
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:15,030
think your IRQ How do you think
my wife feels? She was She kept

522
00:32:15,030 --> 00:32:17,730
saying just call the master of
the house and just say I'm

523
00:32:17,730 --> 00:32:21,120
bringing my wife. I don't think
that's done. And it just says

524
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,700
this invitation is for you only
and not transferable. But now

525
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:29,250
that I know next time I'll just
print up one of those green

526
00:32:29,250 --> 00:32:32,250
pieces of paper slap a name on
it and a number and you're good

527
00:32:32,250 --> 00:32:35,160
to go. I mean, it's it's not
hard

528
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,640
for forging your way into an in
reception, that's pretty funny.

529
00:32:44,670 --> 00:32:49,650
You know that. crazy guys have
showed up in the Queen's bedroom

530
00:32:49,650 --> 00:32:53,730
several times. Yeah, yeah. Now I
know why because it's it's easy.

531
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,690
They don't give a shit about
security. I'm not kidding, John.

532
00:32:57,690 --> 00:33:02,880
This was this really? Flying on
easy jet has 10 times the

533
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,450
security than getting into
Buckingham Palace. Well,

534
00:33:07,380 --> 00:33:11,640
now you know. In the words of
the year this podcast he made

535
00:33:11,940 --> 00:33:14,220
you didn't have to walk through
a metal detector. Oh no,

536
00:33:14,220 --> 00:33:17,550
no, no. No metal detector? No
frisk. No nothing. They didn't

537
00:33:17,550 --> 00:33:21,030
even check my ID John. Yeah.

538
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,650
I guess I could have gone curry.

539
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:36,060
crackpot and buzzkill that would
be funny, wouldn't it? But I

540
00:33:36,060 --> 00:33:38,370
think we should. We should
wherever we go. We just need to

541
00:33:38,370 --> 00:33:41,610
have a little speaker system. So
it's a and we're going in to

542
00:33:41,610 --> 00:33:50,460
meet the Queen Hello, mom. So,
man,

543
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,380
so what else is going on this
week? Anything?

544
00:33:52,890 --> 00:33:57,720
You think? Holy crap, the world
is melting around us?

545
00:33:58,020 --> 00:34:00,960
Well, apparently these this
didn't Obama plan doesn't seem

546
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,560
to be plan. What plan? Well,
that seems to be the problem.

547
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:04,890
Yes,

548
00:34:04,890 --> 00:34:09,510
exactly. There is no, let me
just say one thing. Yesterday, I

549
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:15,510
had a luncheon. And I that we
have a mini cab company right

550
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:18,720
down the road. So this is it.
They're licensed taxis but they

551
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:21,510
can't pick anyone up on the
street. So the kind of shitty

552
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:24,120
cars but yeah, there's just
regular Joe's driving people

553
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,180
around, essentially. So I walked
down there and yeah, they got

554
00:34:27,180 --> 00:34:29,520
radios, so they have
communication, but it's kind of

555
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,270
low, low grade. And I'm like And
I'm always asking these guys how

556
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:35,760
you doing? How's business you
know, cuz I'm just obviously

557
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,490
interested as well. Besides it
being slow, it's that I've got

558
00:34:38,490 --> 00:34:40,920
all kinds of shit and I'm like,
good, you know, I got 20 minutes

559
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,520
to kill. So Lay it on me
brother. So what's happening now

560
00:34:44,970 --> 00:34:50,610
is banks are withdrawing
overdraft protection or

561
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:56,490
overdraft facilities. You know,
and, and so this guy had, you

562
00:34:56,490 --> 00:34:59,370
know, I'm sure that he at the
end of the month, he probably

563
00:34:59,370 --> 00:35:04,020
has to bridge Maybe four or 500
pounds, to get to them the next

564
00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:07,020
paycheck or whatever. And that's
what he used the overdraft

565
00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:10,560
facility for, but they just
yanked that which they've done

566
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,210
to millions of account holders.
And of course, the minute that

567
00:35:15,210 --> 00:35:17,910
happens, he's got all the
standing order debits for his

568
00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:21,510
insurance, and you've council
tax all this stuff that has to

569
00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:25,140
be paid on time every single
month. And then that starts

570
00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:29,910
bouncing out, and he can't get
any, any overdraft facility. And

571
00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:32,910
he just goes into this, this. I
mean, he just the story goes on

572
00:35:32,910 --> 00:35:35,010
and on. And on. The point, of
course, is not this individual

573
00:35:35,010 --> 00:35:40,110
guy. But this is what happens in
the real world. While people

574
00:35:40,110 --> 00:35:44,070
like John and I are sitting fat
and happy watching C span with

575
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:49,050
unbelievable testimony and
questioning of banksters. Which

576
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,960
I think I sat for a couple of
maybe four hours yesterday

577
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,720
watching some of that. But in
the real world, this is how

578
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:58,680
people get hurt. And this is the
start and it's frightening me

579
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,770
for what's going to happen to
people, because they're really

580
00:36:01,770 --> 00:36:03,390
running into big, big trouble.

581
00:36:06,179 --> 00:36:09,839
Well, it'll be interesting.
They're not handling it very

582
00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:13,229
well. Meanwhile, so I'm watching
C span as

583
00:36:13,650 --> 00:36:17,550
per your you got hooked, didn't
you now you can't let it go.

584
00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:19,980
Well, I've watched C span before
it's not like I've never seen,

585
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:25,560
but these seem to be they seem
to be more aggressive about what

586
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,470
they show. They're a Davos
they're at these different kinds

587
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:31,890
of events they had they did show
these hearings, like the ones I

588
00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:37,860
blogged specifically with
Horowitz a couple of these very

589
00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:40,470
interesting. Yeah, the attorneys

590
00:36:40,530 --> 00:36:42,420
for the SEC rounds. Yeah.

591
00:36:43,860 --> 00:36:46,710
So they had this thing I guess
you couldn't find it but it was

592
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:50,550
on C span two and it was SAR
cozy addressing the Munich

593
00:36:50,580 --> 00:36:53,850
Security Council security
conference. And this was

594
00:36:53,940 --> 00:36:56,460
a week ago, I believe, right.
The security come? Yeah, I

595
00:36:56,460 --> 00:36:57,450
guess. So. It was after

596
00:36:57,449 --> 00:37:01,079
Davos. And it was in the end the
topic was the future of European

597
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:07,709
security. And this actually was
on C span last Saturday. I found

598
00:37:07,709 --> 00:37:10,079
that the whole thing if you
listen to Sarkozy, it was

599
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:13,949
Sarkozy and Merkel and this guy
from Poland, the head of the

600
00:37:13,949 --> 00:37:18,329
Polish guy that runs Poland,
Donald Tusk. His name's Donald

601
00:37:18,329 --> 00:37:18,749
Tusk.

602
00:37:18,780 --> 00:37:20,970
Yeah, the guy who runs Poland.
Yeah.

603
00:37:21,179 --> 00:37:24,359
Donald Tusk is the Polish Prime
Minister and I I'm thinking

604
00:37:24,389 --> 00:37:29,069
Donald Tusk sounds like an
American doesn't sound right.

605
00:37:29,939 --> 00:37:32,399
And by the way, he seemed to be
the most erudite of the three

606
00:37:32,399 --> 00:37:32,939
and most

607
00:37:34,469 --> 00:37:37,679
that Poland being interesting of
course, because of the proposed

608
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:40,769
missiles that should that would
be placed in Poland.

609
00:37:41,429 --> 00:37:47,519
Yeah. So sorry, cosy. When all
this was said and done, and I

610
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:50,279
have a lot of notes, I could
bring a few up ones that are

611
00:37:50,609 --> 00:37:55,289
some of the more interesting
comments. Seems to me to be a

612
00:37:55,289 --> 00:37:57,989
little Napoleon. Well,

613
00:37:57,989 --> 00:38:01,409
literally a little Napoleon. You
see that his wife Carla Bruni

614
00:38:01,409 --> 00:38:04,439
has to wear flats when she's
next to him. She can't wear high

615
00:38:04,439 --> 00:38:04,859
heels.

616
00:38:05,369 --> 00:38:08,969
Ladies by the time five full
heat Yeah, he's like five five

617
00:38:08,969 --> 00:38:14,699
Yeah. So he's going on and on
about rearming Europe

618
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:18,480
which is exactly what everyone
what everyone said what happened

619
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,000
if they they sign this damn
Lisbon treaties, then we'd have

620
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,970
a European army. This is what
the guy has been pushing for.

621
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:27,810
Yeah, no, this guy is pushing it
big time. And then he's got it.

622
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,420
Let me just mention a couple of
things here. He by the way,

623
00:38:30,420 --> 00:38:32,880
there's this quote, I couldn't
buy just got the kick out of he

624
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:38,370
said, Can any area in be it can
any area in the world be rich

625
00:38:38,370 --> 00:38:44,160
without a suit without a short
defense? Wow. Wow. And I said,

626
00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:47,880
which is like suicide he said
that I first thing I said to

627
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,690
myself was Monaco. Good point,
which is one of the richest

628
00:38:51,690 --> 00:38:54,870
places in the world period
without question and has no

629
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:57,450
defense and even during the you
know, when Hitler was running,

630
00:38:57,450 --> 00:39:01,380
they just did a deal. And you
know, they keep keep to stay in

631
00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:05,250
tax. That's bull. And then he
goes on about the interest being

632
00:39:05,250 --> 00:39:08,250
the same as that in the US. He
made some very insulting

633
00:39:08,250 --> 00:39:12,000
remarks. But you know, he says
we share Obama's value. The

634
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,670
America we want hazard these
values. The America we want.

635
00:39:24,060 --> 00:39:30,240
This defining moment, change has
come through America. A

636
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:34,410
government of the people, by the
people and for the people has

637
00:39:34,410 --> 00:39:39,480
not perish from the earth. This
is your mystery. We are and

638
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,690
always will be the United States
of America.

639
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:55,199
I know you love that. Sorry. By
the way Biden was in the

640
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:55,739
audience.

641
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,430
Yes, he also did a speech I did
find his speech but I never saw

642
00:39:59,430 --> 00:40:00,180
this or cosy Oh

643
00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:02,280
that's interesting because I'll
try to give you the punchline of

644
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,070
this whole thing okay. Anyway
says by April of this year we're

645
00:40:05,070 --> 00:40:07,530
going to bring together this
great family and he talks about

646
00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:09,840
you know obviously the European
Union trying to pass that treaty

647
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:12,540
and meanwhile in somewhere that
he kind of sneaks into thing

648
00:40:12,540 --> 00:40:15,900
about the A bombs about you know
the fact that they have all man

649
00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:18,420
Great Britain has him and he
thinks you know, even though

650
00:40:18,420 --> 00:40:21,960
they want his big giant European
army he thinks the a bomb should

651
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:27,000
be kept you know, just within
within France what all of them

652
00:40:27,390 --> 00:40:32,070
share the a bomb so want to give
Poland the a bomb that was kind

653
00:40:32,070 --> 00:40:36,270
of interesting now, it gets kind
of weird as he goes on, because

654
00:40:36,270 --> 00:40:39,420
he's talking about you know,
they talk about nuclear energy,

655
00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:42,210
the French do everything right,
you know, a lot of French stuff,

656
00:40:42,210 --> 00:40:46,020
but he talks about the fact that
they're apparently sharing

657
00:40:46,020 --> 00:40:48,810
soldiers and he makes this
comment, quote, France will be

658
00:40:48,810 --> 00:40:53,550
happy to have soldiers in
Germany and and welcome German

659
00:40:53,550 --> 00:40:58,560
soldiers in France. Wow. So I'm
thinking why what different What

660
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,100
Why are you why are there French
soldiers in Germany and German

661
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:04,470
soldiers in France in the first
place this

662
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:08,070
have to do maybe with kind of
along the lines of we're not

663
00:41:08,070 --> 00:41:10,260
into protectionism, except when
it comes to protecting

664
00:41:10,260 --> 00:41:10,890
ourselves?

665
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:14,580
Not sure. I found that the whole
thing about the soldiers being

666
00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:16,560
shared, you know, well,

667
00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:20,490
that's that's the precursor to a
European army, I guess. I think

668
00:41:20,490 --> 00:41:22,470
that must be because they're
already doing that with with

669
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:26,460
police force, I believe that
some police forces are being

670
00:41:26,460 --> 00:41:31,020
sent back and forth to different
countries to quote learn. I'm

671
00:41:31,020 --> 00:41:33,570
sure that just setting it up,
you know, a European police

672
00:41:33,570 --> 00:41:36,090
force, European army. Makes
sense.

673
00:41:38,460 --> 00:41:41,880
So, yeah, there's something
going on. And if the fact is

674
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,070
that we're all we had here, we
didn't have anybody. We didn't

675
00:41:44,070 --> 00:41:46,590
have anybody else. But I mean,
there was Merkel and there was

676
00:41:46,590 --> 00:41:50,040
Sarkozy and Merkel came in she
didn't get to see her speech by

677
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,140
heard her questions and answers,
and I've concluded she's an

678
00:41:52,170 --> 00:41:56,100
idiot. And she's bitching about
the chicken issue in some of

679
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:58,560
these other little she has a
bunch of petty complaints

680
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,050
no one cares about except for
chicken farmers.

681
00:42:01,530 --> 00:42:07,500
Yeah, and it sercotel said, the
public opinion of war is always

682
00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:10,830
bad. So we should pay no
attention to it, guys,

683
00:42:10,830 --> 00:42:15,480
unbelievable. And he says,
indicated he's also kisses a guy

684
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:18,210
made a note he kisses the some
green party guy came a mess, no

685
00:42:18,210 --> 00:42:21,990
questions, and he just kissed
the guy's ass was ridiculous and

686
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:24,750
went on and on about to number
one in the world with new

687
00:42:25,110 --> 00:42:32,040
nuclear energy. 23% renewable
blah, blah, blah, who cares? RMS

688
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,880
defense is the priority security
Franch our people just a few

689
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:40,860
random comments. This I didn't
get to look up I want to do it

690
00:42:40,860 --> 00:42:44,430
before we did the show. But I
gotta look it up. We help singer

691
00:42:44,430 --> 00:42:48,420
plus kept being two things were
brought up by Sarkozy and

692
00:42:48,420 --> 00:42:50,910
Merkel. One of them is something
about we don't want another we

693
00:42:50,910 --> 00:42:55,200
don't want Helsing or plus or
Helsing or two. What is hell

694
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,860
singer died? Oh, no, I'm gonna
have to say remissed by not

695
00:42:58,860 --> 00:43:02,220
having looked it up. We'll have
an onset on Sunday show. And

696
00:43:02,220 --> 00:43:05,490
then they talked about your EU
EU plus NATO plus. And I think

697
00:43:05,490 --> 00:43:08,190
what it refers to some of these
treaties and bringing out the

698
00:43:08,190 --> 00:43:10,920
guys that you're treating
against you like NATO plus might

699
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:16,560
be NATO with Russia, which makes
no sense. And they started doing

700
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,510
a little inside baseball stuff.
They talked about getting

701
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:24,330
Russian support for the EU. And
then they mentioned the Iranian

702
00:43:24,330 --> 00:43:30,030
satellite, he was like concerned
about this. And anyway, so the

703
00:43:30,030 --> 00:43:32,490
thing went on, and on and on,
I'd have a lot more notes. But

704
00:43:33,810 --> 00:43:39,060
at the end, they they said next
next on C span will Joe Biden

705
00:43:39,060 --> 00:43:42,960
will make his speech in five
minutes and they broke up the

706
00:43:44,610 --> 00:43:48,120
they broke up at the end with I
was just under the impression

707
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,250
that these people were like
Hitlerian because they were

708
00:43:50,250 --> 00:43:53,760
shaking their fists and doing
weird stuff. So they so they say

709
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,810
Biden, well. What's Biden gonna
say? So sis man kills Biden,

710
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,960
they they don't have him. He
never shows Oh, interesting.

711
00:44:00,990 --> 00:44:07,950
And, and instead he's bumped for
a bump for now. So you spend

712
00:44:07,950 --> 00:44:12,630
we'll give you the the hearings
for the Deputy Attorney General

713
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:17,820
nomination, David Ogden. Like
who? So I'm thinking why are

714
00:44:17,820 --> 00:44:21,180
they bumping Biden for the
Deputy Attorney General

715
00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:28,710
nomination debate, which was
really boring, but unbelievable.

716
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:32,160
But I have to say Sarkozy really
does have a little Napoleon

717
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,610
thing going. And all the talk is
about the you know, rearming. It

718
00:44:35,610 --> 00:44:38,610
was all about rearming and why
it's so important. And

719
00:44:38,610 --> 00:44:41,490
everything was thematically
around rearming, but but

720
00:44:41,490 --> 00:44:44,280
rearming Europe. And I think the
fear is that because you know,

721
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,700
the Germans and the French are
always and by the way, if you

722
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:50,640
look at the fractal of history,
the French are as much

723
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,400
troublemakers over time as the
Germans have ever

724
00:44:53,460 --> 00:44:56,340
actually. So let me say
something about that because

725
00:44:56,370 --> 00:44:59,970
indeed the culture and if you've
lived in Europe, you know that

726
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,880
This almost from childhood,
first of all the Germans and the

727
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,810
French have always been at each
other's throats, or you know,

728
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,600
one way or the other politically
or at war, et cetera. But the

729
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,500
French, they really believe they
rule the universe. And this is

730
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,730
I'm generalizing, obviously. But
sir cozy is a prime example of a

731
00:45:17,730 --> 00:45:20,670
French guy who considers the
Netherlands to be the northern

732
00:45:20,670 --> 00:45:23,370
stop on the train route. You
know, that's literally how they

733
00:45:23,370 --> 00:45:25,710
talk about it. Oh, Holland, you
mean that you mean the northern

734
00:45:25,710 --> 00:45:29,070
stop on our on our train line.
That's how they feel about it.

735
00:45:29,070 --> 00:45:32,040
Belgium, the Netherlands all
there's there, they're

736
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,300
incredible that way.

737
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:38,850
And well, so they get into these
beef, so so they must have

738
00:45:38,850 --> 00:45:42,000
actually, they must actually be
strategizing how to get it

739
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,630
European Union is there's two
things that have to happen. One,

740
00:45:45,630 --> 00:45:48,390
you have to have the Germans and
the French together on the deal,

741
00:45:48,420 --> 00:45:52,440
this will this will never occur,
but they're trying their best.

742
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,770
And that's why I think they have
this soldier, you know, this is

743
00:45:55,950 --> 00:45:58,590
what is it called when you bring
your kid that foreign exchange

744
00:45:58,590 --> 00:46:03,000
students. So we'll put the
French soldiers in Germany, and

745
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,620
we'll put the German soldiers in
France, and it to maybe to get

746
00:46:07,650 --> 00:46:08,340
so people get

747
00:46:08,340 --> 00:46:12,960
let's get them all. Yeah, let's
give them all new uniforms. But

748
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,210
with a little tag that shows
what country they're from.

749
00:46:16,110 --> 00:46:18,150
That's what it's gonna be you
want yeah,

750
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:22,530
you wouldn't be surprised. And
but the problem is, is that the

751
00:46:22,530 --> 00:46:27,270
Germans are still Germans. And
the French are still French, no

752
00:46:27,270 --> 00:46:30,900
matter what you do about it. And
it's gonna annoy the locals.

753
00:46:31,890 --> 00:46:35,760
Because there's something that's
grating to a Frenchman about a

754
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,510
German and just like the Brits,
I mean, the British really

755
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:40,710
disliked the French,

756
00:46:40,740 --> 00:46:42,570
they should, but they love to go
there on holiday.

757
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,860
They love France. They just
don't like the French. And they

758
00:46:46,860 --> 00:46:49,170
bitch and moan. I mean, I don't
think Americans generally

759
00:46:49,170 --> 00:46:54,210
speaking know how mean spirited
The British are regarding the

760
00:46:54,210 --> 00:46:55,620
French. In

761
00:46:55,619 --> 00:46:58,529
general, I would say the British
can be pretty mean spirited.

762
00:46:58,589 --> 00:46:59,699
It's not just yet but I

763
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:02,340
know. That's true. But I'm
saying the French thing is

764
00:47:02,340 --> 00:47:05,370
really young. You can bring it
up at a dinner or anything. It's

765
00:47:05,370 --> 00:47:09,360
just they just, they just hate
him. Yeah, you know, and that's

766
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:15,420
it goes back to God knows when.
But so this is shaking out to be

767
00:47:15,420 --> 00:47:17,700
something quite interesting if
they keep going in this

768
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:18,450
direction.

769
00:47:19,139 --> 00:47:23,279
Well, we have another we have a
major flap going on today as we

770
00:47:23,279 --> 00:47:27,209
speak in the United Kingdom.
This is the politician here two

771
00:47:27,209 --> 00:47:31,409
builders, we've talked about him
before on the show, who made the

772
00:47:31,409 --> 00:47:36,299
15 minute movie fitna, which you
can find on I don't know if it's

773
00:47:36,299 --> 00:47:41,849
on YouTube anymore. Certainly on
lively fit a fit and a fitna,

774
00:47:42,389 --> 00:47:47,219
which is the it's essentially
it's a it's a collage of

775
00:47:47,249 --> 00:47:52,319
headlines and then translations
from the Quran and kind of

776
00:47:52,349 --> 00:47:56,759
basically saying, radical Islam
is really bad. And it's here

777
00:47:56,849 --> 00:48:01,379
that that is how I'd paraphrase
this poorly put the I didn't

778
00:48:01,379 --> 00:48:04,019
think it was a very good movie,
it was kind of like one of those

779
00:48:04,019 --> 00:48:07,529
conspiracy theory clips, YouTube
documentaries, you know what I

780
00:48:07,529 --> 00:48:11,339
mean? Like kind of weird stuff
put together, crudely so first

781
00:48:11,339 --> 00:48:14,999
of all, and but it certainly is
not like, I wouldn't call it

782
00:48:14,999 --> 00:48:18,449
hate. It's just, you know, it's
facts put together. Now you can

783
00:48:18,449 --> 00:48:22,139
call that hate if you want. And
some of it, I'm sure it's out of

784
00:48:22,139 --> 00:48:27,719
context, and whatever. So first
of all, he's being prosecuted in

785
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,499
the Netherlands for hate crime,
a minister of Parliament, no

786
00:48:31,499 --> 00:48:36,869
less. But he was scheduled to
show this movie in the House of

787
00:48:36,869 --> 00:48:42,989
Commons today upon invitation.
And the home office has denied

788
00:48:42,989 --> 00:48:49,379
him entry into the country. I'm
sorry, what? The home office in

789
00:48:49,379 --> 00:48:52,439
the United Kingdom has denied
him access to the country. So

790
00:48:52,439 --> 00:48:56,249
this this story broke yesterday.
Because he, of course, received

791
00:48:56,249 --> 00:48:59,879
a letter from the home office.
And it said, Please don't come,

792
00:48:59,879 --> 00:49:02,909
we're not going to let you in.
And so he said, Look, I've got a

793
00:49:02,909 --> 00:49:06,359
return ticket, and he got on the
plane this morning. And the last

794
00:49:06,359 --> 00:49:11,279
I heard is he had landed but
customs would not let him. And

795
00:49:11,279 --> 00:49:14,039
so now of course, the big debate
is, you know, Is there freedom

796
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:17,399
of speech in Britain like, Duh,
no kidding.

797
00:49:19,230 --> 00:49:21,390
Wait a minute. I thought they
were dealing with the EU where

798
00:49:21,390 --> 00:49:24,780
you don't have this kind of
control from one EU country to

799
00:49:24,780 --> 00:49:27,480
another you can't stop people
from going here and there. Oh,

800
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,370
yeah. Oh, when did that happen?

801
00:49:30,750 --> 00:49:36,000
Today as of today, of course,
but duh. This is why keep

802
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,170
telling Patricia. I said Honey,
you know, don't you get it? It's

803
00:49:40,170 --> 00:49:44,250
only free when they feel it's
free. What they don't want it to

804
00:49:44,250 --> 00:49:47,070
be free and simple that way.

805
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:51,690
So what you're saying is that
the cheese that's unbelievable.

806
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:53,790
I mean, this doesn't make any
sense. Then you have

807
00:49:53,790 --> 00:49:57,690
ministers of Parliament. Muslim
ministers. I don't

808
00:49:57,690 --> 00:50:00,870
even remember being checked when
you go from Well, if you're Yes,

809
00:50:00,870 --> 00:50:03,150
you Oh yeah, you definitely go.
That's what you do walk through

810
00:50:03,150 --> 00:50:04,920
passport control at some,

811
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:08,580
even even even though most
countries in Europe have no

812
00:50:08,580 --> 00:50:13,140
passport control. So if I go to
Spain, and if I go to it depends

813
00:50:13,140 --> 00:50:16,230
on which airport in France,
there's no passport control at

814
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:19,140
all you get off the plane, it's
it you know it lands at the

815
00:50:19,140 --> 00:50:22,800
European terminal you walk right
through. If you landed at

816
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:29,100
Gatwick or Heathrow, you have to
go through the EU passport

817
00:50:29,100 --> 00:50:31,980
control and it's not like a big
deal. They look at your passport

818
00:50:31,980 --> 00:50:34,350
and okay, you're an EU citizen.
Come on, they don't really ask

819
00:50:34,350 --> 00:50:38,970
you questions. I of course have
to go through a different line.

820
00:50:39,300 --> 00:50:41,430
Because I don't have an EU
passport. And even though I do

821
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:44,790
have a visa, they they do ask
questions. And the question is

822
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:47,520
always, because the reason I'm
allowed to live and work here is

823
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,000
because I'm married to an EU
national. And they always say,

824
00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:54,210
What nationality is your wife? I
said she's Dutch. And where is

825
00:50:54,210 --> 00:50:57,000
she? And I always my standard
answered is why hope she's home

826
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,570
because I'm really hungry. Which
they don't find that don't find

827
00:51:00,570 --> 00:51:04,260
that very amusing. But you keep
doing it. Yeah, of course, of

828
00:51:04,260 --> 00:51:06,870
course. And by the way, I've met
the Queen fucky. Let me through

829
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:11,520
Goddamnit here. Here's here's,
here's the here's my name tag

830
00:51:11,550 --> 00:51:15,630
from when I've met the Queen.
Okay, I've got proof. Yeah,

831
00:51:15,630 --> 00:51:18,810
yeah. So this is a big deal. And
what's what's interesting is on

832
00:51:18,810 --> 00:51:23,040
the radio here they have I don't
know how many Muslim ministers

833
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,770
of Parliament there are. But
there's one guy who's who's been

834
00:51:25,770 --> 00:51:29,040
on most of the talk shows and
say, hey, look, that guy has his

835
00:51:29,610 --> 00:51:31,650
his freedom of speech. And
here's my freedom of speech.

836
00:51:31,650 --> 00:51:35,430
You're not allowed in. That's
not freedom of speech.

837
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:39,720
Freedom of speech. That's
hilarious.

838
00:51:39,749 --> 00:51:43,409
But the funny thing is that
like, no one not a single person

839
00:51:43,709 --> 00:51:48,599
even takes the effort to go look
at the fucking movie. It's all

840
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:51,509
online. And they're all talking
about it like, Oh, it's this

841
00:51:51,509 --> 00:51:56,909
hate crimes? Like, go look at it
before you talk about it. And of

842
00:51:56,909 --> 00:52:00,119
course, they don't show any of
it anywhere. And the whole point

843
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:03,479
might say it's a crime but not a
hate crime to the whole.

844
00:52:03,540 --> 00:52:06,000
The whole turn on your speaker.
Man, you're you're really

845
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,540
blowing me out there. The whole
reason he's not allowed in is

846
00:52:09,540 --> 00:52:14,040
because the government is
worried that it will start

847
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:19,830
riots. Oh, if it didn't start
riots anywhere else.

848
00:52:20,730 --> 00:52:23,220
Yeah, but yeah, we got those
Pakistani nut cases that they

849
00:52:23,220 --> 00:52:23,370
have.

850
00:52:23,940 --> 00:52:28,770
There you go. That's
john@devora.org. For all you

851
00:52:28,770 --> 00:52:31,770
Pakistani nutcases, that's where
you can find him.

852
00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:35,670
There's a really good piece that
was written, I'm gonna have to

853
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:40,800
go dig it up that was written
about how the Pakistanis were

854
00:52:40,830 --> 00:52:43,740
the ones that were the expats
that moved to England, they were

855
00:52:43,740 --> 00:52:48,720
all influenced by a clerics that
were fairly liberal and modern.

856
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:52,980
And then sometime in the, I
think it was in the 70s or 80s,

857
00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:57,180
that they stay switched, based
on what happened, which was

858
00:52:57,180 --> 00:53:00,330
going on in Pakistan, which is a
movement toward conservative

859
00:53:01,530 --> 00:53:06,750
Claire clerics to a bunch of
harvests in Pakistan, and those

860
00:53:06,750 --> 00:53:10,350
guys then took over kind of
pushed the Pakistani agenda. And

861
00:53:10,350 --> 00:53:13,200
then of course, they had their
experiment called the Taliban.

862
00:53:13,620 --> 00:53:19,560
And they had exported their
philosophies to England, some

863
00:53:19,860 --> 00:53:23,790
over a decade ago. And it's been
kind of taking the it's been

864
00:53:23,790 --> 00:53:27,540
pushed, everybody's been kind of
pushing in that direction. And,

865
00:53:28,050 --> 00:53:31,170
you know, these things are all
reversible. But not everybody

866
00:53:31,170 --> 00:53:33,360
just lets you know, doesn't pay
any attention to it.

867
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:35,400
That's always the danger.

868
00:53:37,980 --> 00:53:41,280
Did you know we can't say
anything because it will might

869
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,270
offend someone?

870
00:53:42,750 --> 00:53:47,370
Well, this is the I heard I
heard on CNBC even someone

871
00:53:47,370 --> 00:53:50,520
mentioned that they and I know
they always talk about this, but

872
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,700
the talk about the fairness
doctrine, really seems to be the

873
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:55,230
chatter is getting louder, John.

874
00:53:56,550 --> 00:53:59,850
You know, the thing is, yeah, it
is but you know, that you always

875
00:53:59,850 --> 00:54:02,400
have to remember that the
Fairness Doctrine was instituted

876
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:07,500
by the Republicans because the
Democrats, when when, when push

877
00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:10,650
comes to shove, they are the
ones who tend to be, you know,

878
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:13,740
more promotional about their
political agenda than the

879
00:54:13,740 --> 00:54:17,220
Republicans ever have been. And
essentially, what's happened

880
00:54:17,220 --> 00:54:20,190
though, is you have a lightning
rod for the Fairness Doctrine,

881
00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:24,510
namely Rush Limbaugh, who they
just don't like, because he's a

882
00:54:24,510 --> 00:54:29,100
very Rush Limbaugh is for one
thing, he's been doing it for so

883
00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:32,340
long and he's so entertaining
and he's got he's got the right

884
00:54:32,670 --> 00:54:36,240
audience and a huge, huge is 14
million or something and he gets

885
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:40,590
a call and he and he gets quoted
and again, he's you know, he is

886
00:54:40,590 --> 00:54:44,670
so I don't think he's
influential I think he but he

887
00:54:44,670 --> 00:54:50,070
does pound a specific drum. And
the drum is not even pro

888
00:54:50,070 --> 00:54:56,490
Republican. It's just anti
Democrat. And I think they just

889
00:54:56,490 --> 00:54:59,970
got on they they've got
limbaugh's got on everybody's

890
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,510
nerves. But the fact of the
matter is, you know, most of the

891
00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:07,860
editorials and, and you know,
YouTube if you take, you know,

892
00:55:07,890 --> 00:55:13,320
Rachel Maddow, who was on MSNBC,
and what's his name? The

893
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,860
baguette, the big head. Yeah.
Keith Olbermann, Keith

894
00:55:16,860 --> 00:55:20,490
Olbermann. I mean, those guys
and then everybody else that's

895
00:55:20,490 --> 00:55:23,760
attempting and by the way, the
woman this was interesting. The

896
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,660
woman who was pushing the the
domain woman that's pushing the

897
00:55:27,660 --> 00:55:30,510
Fairness Doctrine thing, her
husband happens to be one of the

898
00:55:30,510 --> 00:55:36,330
founders of one of the liberal
radio talk shows that failed,

899
00:55:36,330 --> 00:55:38,790
fit what is Air America,
whatever.

900
00:55:38,969 --> 00:55:41,399
Well, he was one of the shows on
Air America, and I think he had

901
00:55:41,399 --> 00:55:43,199
dinner was another somebody else
tried to

902
00:55:43,889 --> 00:55:47,759
bring, it was totally boring.
The fact

903
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:53,400
of the matter is, we've always
had a left wing channel in this

904
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,940
across the country called
Pacifica radio. We have a local

905
00:55:56,940 --> 00:56:00,090
version of it here in Berkeley,
Pacifica radio plays the most,

906
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,380
they're not even left wing, it's
borderline communist. And they

907
00:56:04,380 --> 00:56:08,220
just basically, you know, hate
Republicans and pound the drum

908
00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:11,280
for all the progressive ideas,
and they have poets on, and

909
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,670
people who talk like this. And
well, I think, you know, the

910
00:56:14,670 --> 00:56:17,280
indigenous people and they're
the ones who che tried to change

911
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,310
the name of all the holidays,
and they're essentially anti

912
00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:24,900
American, they would be probably
as they would be susceptible to

913
00:56:24,900 --> 00:56:27,960
this. Because if this thing ever
went through, everyone would be

914
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:32,280
attacking all the left wing
anything. And the other thing is

915
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,790
you can do as you could pull a
Hannity and Colmes where you can

916
00:56:35,790 --> 00:56:38,970
have a I've always felt you
know, if you ever get if you're

917
00:56:38,970 --> 00:56:41,400
anybody wants to get involved in
politics, one of the things you

918
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,940
want to do is you want to
produce debates for TV. And the

919
00:56:44,940 --> 00:56:47,520
way you produce debates for TV
and you have a debate about

920
00:56:48,420 --> 00:56:53,010
topic a and you get a very and
your for it, but you're

921
00:56:53,010 --> 00:56:54,930
producing has got to be
objective because it's going to

922
00:56:54,930 --> 00:56:57,690
be a debate so what you do is
you find the absolute best

923
00:56:57,690 --> 00:57:01,440
spokesperson for topic a in the
world knows everything. And then

924
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,040
you find somebody against topic
a who happens to be clinically

925
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,510
insane. And you put them on the
air. And you had there's your

926
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:12,780
balance you got your debate,
topic a gets debated by a person

927
00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:15,030
who's bright, very normal and
some maniac

928
00:57:16,650 --> 00:57:21,090
remember Morton Downey Jr. Yeah,
of course, I wasn't he great.

929
00:57:21,869 --> 00:57:24,779
So the display so I mean, you
can I mean, the Fairness

930
00:57:24,779 --> 00:57:27,959
Doctrine is kind of meaningless
in the modern era and they just

931
00:57:27,959 --> 00:57:30,359
put it all you know it's just
rush limbaugh they're just

932
00:57:30,359 --> 00:57:33,539
trying to get him off the air. I
don't care what about anything

933
00:57:33,539 --> 00:57:36,749
else and but it won't work
because rush limbaugh was really

934
00:57:36,749 --> 00:57:39,269
can can neutralize his vigor
take

935
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:42,060
out the government, his audience
if they marched on Washington

936
00:57:42,060 --> 00:57:43,080
would be all over.

937
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,180
You know, but he can also he
doesn't have to be you know, you

938
00:57:48,180 --> 00:57:50,550
can also do this you have a
sidekick that's all you need to

939
00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:54,990
do. Rush Limbaugh and sidekick
right and the sidekick rush. I

940
00:57:54,990 --> 00:57:57,630
can't believe you said that.
Surely you know that President

941
00:57:57,630 --> 00:57:59,460
Obama is actually quite nice.

942
00:58:00,030 --> 00:58:07,470
This is no no agenda with Adam
curry and John C. Dvorak. We're

943
00:58:07,470 --> 00:58:09,660
gonna get together to pronounce
my name a little better where I

944
00:58:11,550 --> 00:58:16,920
live, so so you get a side kick
and make sure that the guys

945
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,130
clinically insane right. And I
mean, that's why Hannity and

946
00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:22,920
Cohen was was kind of like was a
balance show, you know, combs

947
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:27,510
was useless. It's kind of funny
to watch. And he's not as good

948
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:28,860
by himself. That's the weird
thing.

949
00:58:28,980 --> 00:58:31,080
Yeah. Well, it's kind of like
you and me, darling.

950
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:37,439
So, anyway, so I don't know I
still think when push comes to

951
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:40,409
shove, the Fairness Doctrine is
not going to pass and it also

952
00:58:40,409 --> 00:58:43,829
may be a red herring to get all
these right wingers all you

953
00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:46,049
know, get their panties in a
bunch.

954
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:50,220
I mean, go ahead. I

955
00:58:50,219 --> 00:58:53,699
was gonna say Michael Savage
literally goes ballistic when it

956
00:58:53,699 --> 00:58:54,269
comes up.

957
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,780
Yeah. Sometimes it goes a little
overboard, though sometimes.

958
00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:01,770
Sometimes this was a CNN
reported

959
00:59:01,770 --> 00:59:04,800
something interesting yesterday,
which I saw on, maybe

960
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,830
understandably, maybe, maybe I'm
just reading too much into it.

961
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,070
Interpol issued a rare global
security alert for 85 suspected

962
00:59:14,070 --> 00:59:19,500
al Qaeda linked terrorists
wanted by Saudi Arabia. Never

963
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:22,350
before has Interpol been asked
to alert the world about so many

964
00:59:22,350 --> 00:59:26,280
dangerous fugitives at one time,
according to the press release.

965
00:59:28,770 --> 00:59:29,370
What do you think?

966
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:33,389
I know some weird stuffs going
on. I think those fires in

967
00:59:33,539 --> 00:59:36,539
Australia are suspicious. I
think those may be al Qaeda.

968
00:59:36,570 --> 00:59:39,930
Well, the police actually said
that there was they were they

969
00:59:39,930 --> 00:59:46,050
were angry. Have it here
somewhere. Australian anger

970
00:59:46,050 --> 00:59:51,240
turns as police admit, one of
the deadliest bushfires was not

971
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:56,250
arson after all. So that that
sounds even weirder.

972
00:59:57,239 --> 01:00:00,179
Yeah, because there were new
fires cropping out all the throw

973
01:00:00,179 --> 01:00:03,989
them away slice. Yeah, you know,
just out of the blue and they

974
01:00:03,989 --> 01:00:06,539
had all these guys in their
sights you know supposedly,

975
01:00:06,959 --> 01:00:10,019
maybe it's maybe the information
whatever what is really going on

976
01:00:10,019 --> 01:00:12,119
as being suppressed for some
reason?

977
01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:14,850
Yeah just like everything else
that comes through the internet

978
01:00:14,850 --> 01:00:15,240
there.

979
01:00:16,500 --> 01:00:19,740
Right yeah Australia's Got it
please stay when it comes to

980
01:00:19,740 --> 01:00:22,320
information. I you know, the
thing we I somebody sent me a

981
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,930
note, you know, because we were
joking about the the heat in

982
01:00:24,930 --> 01:00:27,330
Australia, but I wasn't
realizing that those do

983
01:00:27,330 --> 01:00:30,390
ridiculous fires that they were
having. I mean, it's, it's like,

984
01:00:30,420 --> 01:00:33,420
well, my wife pointed out it's
like, go ahead. It's like

985
01:00:33,420 --> 01:00:36,840
everything on fire from cat from
San Francisco to Seattle. Yeah.

986
01:00:37,710 --> 01:00:41,700
We mentioned it on on the on the
previous show. And that's when

987
01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:44,760
you kind of with your haha,
Arizona is hot too. Don't you

988
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:45,810
feel stupid now?

989
01:00:46,350 --> 01:00:49,560
Yeah, no. Well, I've always felt
stupid. So that's beside the

990
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,910
point. But But these fires being
just as soon as I started

991
01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:56,550
reading about it, of course,
I've I've got the Australian

992
01:00:56,550 --> 01:00:57,750
Slingbox working.

993
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,930
I can't I can't seem to get it
working. Did you get any local

994
01:01:00,930 --> 01:01:02,280
coverage? Could you see some
good?

995
01:01:02,639 --> 01:01:06,569
Oh, yeah. The guy was sent it to
us. We want to thank him. You

996
01:01:06,569 --> 01:01:10,379
have his name. He's he actually
works for Channel Nine. Maybe we

997
01:01:10,379 --> 01:01:13,739
shouldn't give his name out. And
in Australia, and he says, you

998
01:01:13,739 --> 01:01:19,739
know, he was talking about more
fires being lit. And but no

999
01:01:19,739 --> 01:01:22,109
offense to him. I thought the
channel 10 coverage was a little

1000
01:01:22,109 --> 01:01:26,339
better, at least, came in
better. And it was yeah, there's

1001
01:01:26,339 --> 01:01:30,059
a bit ridiculous. And it's got
to be as suspicious. I think the

1002
01:01:30,059 --> 01:01:33,419
whole thing is sketchy. Maybe
they don't want to panic, the

1003
01:01:33,419 --> 01:01:35,639
public bias, you know, by
telling you that, you know,

1004
01:01:35,639 --> 01:01:39,299
people are these terrorists
lighten up the place?

1005
01:01:40,739 --> 01:01:45,329
Well, as Rahm Emanuel said,
Never let a good crisis go to

1006
01:01:45,329 --> 01:01:45,869
waste.

1007
01:01:49,290 --> 01:01:53,580
I suppose there's probably a
vigilante attitude in Australia

1008
01:01:53,580 --> 01:01:57,210
that has to be dealt with, you
know, if you start saying, well,

1009
01:01:57,210 --> 01:01:59,580
there's a bunch of you know, if
you say there's a bunch of Arab

1010
01:01:59,580 --> 01:02:03,780
terrorists, everyone grinding
fires all over the place, they

1011
01:02:03,780 --> 01:02:07,140
would probably find any Arab in
any bar and kill him. Yeah,

1012
01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:07,650
you're right.

1013
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:09,929
So who knows?

1014
01:02:12,090 --> 01:02:15,570
I'm sure that will develop
developing stories. Anything

1015
01:02:15,570 --> 01:02:15,900
else?

1016
01:02:16,020 --> 01:02:18,450
Well, you took notes that yeah,
I have tons of stuff. But you

1017
01:02:18,450 --> 01:02:22,380
took notes after our last? Oh,
yeah. Here's, here's a couple of

1018
01:02:22,380 --> 01:02:28,830
things. Because I also wrote
down a couple of notes. There's

1019
01:02:28,830 --> 01:02:31,410
more, there's this whole Smart
Grid thing, which we've kind of

1020
01:02:31,410 --> 01:02:35,010
latched on to there's more and
more coming out about that. And

1021
01:02:35,010 --> 01:02:37,860
you'll Google's in those tied
into it. Yeah, you by the way.

1022
01:02:37,950 --> 01:02:40,560
Eric Schmidt who I guess he
doesn't work at Google anymore.

1023
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:44,850
He is now on David Cameron's
economic team, Cameron being the

1024
01:02:44,850 --> 01:02:49,620
opposition. In the in the UK
Government for the

1025
01:02:49,620 --> 01:02:52,470
conservatives. And the NDP was
like this big article I've got

1026
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:55,410
to Eric Schmidt on my economic
team, for the guys on this team

1027
01:02:55,410 --> 01:02:59,670
is on Obama's team. Does it do
anything at Google anymore? Or

1028
01:02:59,670 --> 01:03:01,350
is he just outside in the world
he ever

1029
01:03:01,350 --> 01:03:01,920
do anything?

1030
01:03:02,489 --> 01:03:11,219
Besides Bing? Bada bing, good
point. So yeah, so Google is in

1031
01:03:11,219 --> 01:03:15,419
on the Smart Grid thing. And,
you know, this, this ties into a

1032
01:03:15,419 --> 01:03:19,409
number of things. First is the
fact that they're now talking

1033
01:03:19,409 --> 01:03:24,209
about the so the smart grid idea
is that the the grid that

1034
01:03:24,209 --> 01:03:27,329
supplies, amongst other things,
electricity, but I think the

1035
01:03:27,329 --> 01:03:30,989
grid will contain broadband and
all kinds of stuff, that it will

1036
01:03:30,989 --> 01:03:34,319
determine when it's good for
your washing machine to be on.

1037
01:03:35,429 --> 01:03:38,519
So oh, well, you can't wash
right now we're gonna make that

1038
01:03:38,519 --> 01:03:42,509
happen at 2am, or something of
the like, and Google has to have

1039
01:03:42,509 --> 01:03:44,549
some kind of API or something,
they're announced, they've

1040
01:03:44,549 --> 01:03:45,119
announced

1041
01:03:46,020 --> 01:03:49,620
that they didn't catch that. But
that, you know, to me, the,

1042
01:03:49,650 --> 01:03:54,000
there's always been I always
tried to explain to myself from

1043
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,030
day one, I mean, when I first
heard about this technology over

1044
01:03:57,030 --> 01:04:01,890
20 years ago, which is power
grid, connectivity to the

1045
01:04:01,890 --> 01:04:04,890
internet. So you know, you can
get your internet connection

1046
01:04:04,890 --> 01:04:08,850
just through the plug in the
wall. And the only exponent and

1047
01:04:08,850 --> 01:04:11,310
you know, and it was it never
worked. It's starting to work

1048
01:04:11,310 --> 01:04:13,650
now and they actually have
technologies that can give you

1049
01:04:13,650 --> 01:04:18,120
almost a gigabit if you know if
you evolve things or you know if

1050
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,770
your house is actually wired
correct.

1051
01:04:19,770 --> 01:04:24,060
And you can buy these little
boxes to, to connect. If you

1052
01:04:24,060 --> 01:04:26,700
don't have an Ethernet port on
somewhere, you can run it

1053
01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:30,780
through the, through your
houses, your home's wiring.

1054
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:32,760
Yeah. And it works.

1055
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,620
Yeah, well, it works in houses
that are properly wired. Yeah.

1056
01:04:37,950 --> 01:04:40,440
Which is only about probably
half the houses in the country.

1057
01:04:40,860 --> 01:04:44,190
But the idea is that why should
we why why even do this because

1058
01:04:44,190 --> 01:04:46,530
there's other technologies that
are better, they're faster they

1059
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,860
you know, they're not as screwy
but it's obvious that they

1060
01:04:49,860 --> 01:04:54,090
wanted to have access to your
power a, because if you have an

1061
01:04:54,090 --> 01:04:58,710
IP washing machine, you know,
you can put ads on the display.

1062
01:04:59,700 --> 01:05:02,100
Say Yeah, hey, by the way,
there's a sale over here at

1063
01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:05,730
Safeway for some tight laundry
detergent, you want to check it

1064
01:05:05,730 --> 01:05:08,250
out, push this button, and we
will send a coupon to your

1065
01:05:08,250 --> 01:05:08,820
printer.

1066
01:05:08,850 --> 01:05:12,510
You think you don't really think
that's the applications? They

1067
01:05:12,510 --> 01:05:14,880
haven't already? Absolutely.
That's the application. That's

1068
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,350
why do total control is the
application job application is

1069
01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:21,419
advertising that you push the
button and then it says, Does

1070
01:05:21,419 --> 01:05:23,459
this your printer and then boom,
you hit it and come back. Your

1071
01:05:23,459 --> 01:05:26,459
printers printed out a coupon?
So you get a deal on tight?

1072
01:05:26,489 --> 01:05:29,789
I have to disagree with you,
man. This that's yes, of course.

1073
01:05:29,819 --> 01:05:32,309
That will be the application
we're shown. But it's really

1074
01:05:32,309 --> 01:05:36,269
about tracking everything you do
and having total information

1075
01:05:37,019 --> 01:05:40,259
field on on your entire life.
Come on. That's because the we

1076
01:05:40,259 --> 01:05:42,389
can run your life better. That's
what I'm seeing.

1077
01:05:43,139 --> 01:05:45,899
Yeah, that's what you'd be
seeing. Oh, okay. I think

1078
01:05:45,899 --> 01:05:48,239
there's an element of that. But
I think that's just too hard to

1079
01:05:48,239 --> 01:05:52,679
execute. Well, I don't like the
idea of man. Yeah. And it has to

1080
01:05:52,679 --> 01:05:56,369
be resisted. Obviously. Any
anything that could go in that

1081
01:05:56,369 --> 01:05:59,909
direction, though. The Gosh, I'm
scared to death, Adam curry

1082
01:06:00,299 --> 01:06:03,539
direction. Anything that goes
into that direction should be

1083
01:06:03,539 --> 01:06:08,579
stopped. Yes. Thank you. So I'm
gonna stick with that. Now. The

1084
01:06:08,609 --> 01:06:12,689
fact is, Google sees it as an ad
revenue stream, because that's

1085
01:06:12,689 --> 01:06:15,989
how they make their money right
there. I mean, I don't think

1086
01:06:16,019 --> 01:06:20,639
that they are yet. You know,
wanting to control our lives.

1087
01:06:20,639 --> 01:06:21,869
I'm sure they might like,

1088
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,840
you know what, they've got all
the bits. That's that's the

1089
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,100
important thing. Because that
yeah, they're

1090
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:29,940
plugged in shows we sell to
Google to some agency. Bingo.

1091
01:06:29,969 --> 01:06:33,929
Yeah, that latitude thing. It's
like, it's very easy to quit

1092
01:06:33,929 --> 01:06:36,569
your Google Maps on your phone.
And it's still to be sharing

1093
01:06:36,569 --> 01:06:39,989
your location. It's it asked,
yeah, do you want to still share

1094
01:06:39,989 --> 01:06:42,719
your location? There's yes or
no, I've hit. I've hit it

1095
01:06:42,719 --> 01:06:46,169
incorrectly a couple times. It's
a little freaky.

1096
01:06:46,860 --> 01:06:49,980
Yeah, no, I don't like the I
don't like latitude at all, no

1097
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,650
effect. This is I think it's
going to the thing is, luckily,

1098
01:06:52,650 --> 01:06:56,430
in the United States, we're so
litigious, that one, just one

1099
01:06:56,430 --> 01:07:00,210
person's one female gets
stalked, because the latitude

1100
01:07:00,210 --> 01:07:03,270
and effect that she pushed the
wrong button, and then is raped

1101
01:07:03,270 --> 01:07:07,650
and murdered. That's the end of
that technology now, and a fat

1102
01:07:07,650 --> 01:07:08,400
lawsuit.

1103
01:07:08,580 --> 01:07:12,090
Well, let me then take take you
into the next topic, which I

1104
01:07:12,090 --> 01:07:15,180
think is pretty important. I'd
love to hear your take on. So

1105
01:07:15,180 --> 01:07:17,700
people have been pulling apart
the stimulus bill, both the

1106
01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:20,910
house the Senate, and from what
I understand the compromised

1107
01:07:20,910 --> 01:07:25,860
version contains some very
interesting healthcare

1108
01:07:28,140 --> 01:07:33,150
initiatives, which is obviously
come from Tom Dashiell. And let

1109
01:07:33,150 --> 01:07:37,020
me just read these to you. The
bills health rules will affect

1110
01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:39,720
this from Bloomberg will affect
every individual in the United

1111
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,810
States, your medical treatments
will be tracked electronically

1112
01:07:42,810 --> 01:07:46,110
by a federal system. Having
electronic medical records at

1113
01:07:46,110 --> 01:07:48,960
your fingertips easily
transferred to a hospital is

1114
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:53,460
beneficial. It is good. It will
help avoid duplicate tests and

1115
01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:58,140
errors. But here comes the
National Coordinator of health

1116
01:07:58,140 --> 01:08:01,920
information technology, we'll
monitor treatments to make sure

1117
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,950
your doctor is doing what the
federal government deems

1118
01:08:04,980 --> 01:08:09,600
appropriate and cost effective.
The goal is to reduce cost and

1119
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:13,800
guide your doctor's decisions.
These provisions in the stimulus

1120
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,260
bill are virtually identical to
what Dashiell prescribed in his

1121
01:08:16,260 --> 01:08:23,310
2008 book. So hospitals and
doctors will be meaningful users

1122
01:08:23,310 --> 01:08:27,300
of the new system. And if
they're not meaningful users,

1123
01:08:28,380 --> 01:08:31,680
they will face penalties. And of
course, meaningful user is not

1124
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:37,440
defined in the bill. So it might
understand that the stimulus

1125
01:08:37,770 --> 01:08:42,480
package that passes will
basically allow the government

1126
01:08:42,480 --> 01:08:48,330
into our medical shit, and guide
our doctor as to what treatment

1127
01:08:48,330 --> 01:08:49,260
we should receive.

1128
01:08:51,810 --> 01:08:54,450
Well, a couple things, first of
all, insurance companies do that

1129
01:08:54,450 --> 01:08:57,210
already. So I don't know that
this is going to be that much

1130
01:08:57,210 --> 01:09:00,060
different than that. Secondly,
it is important that we have

1131
01:09:00,060 --> 01:09:06,540
some sort of a secure medical
information system because the

1132
01:09:06,540 --> 01:09:10,980
number of people it's in the
hundreds of 1000s who die from

1133
01:09:10,980 --> 01:09:13,980
the fact that, you know, they're
given one treatment for by one

1134
01:09:13,980 --> 01:09:15,840
doctor, and they because he
didn't know that there's another

1135
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,260
treatment from another doctor
that is going to kill him. You

1136
01:09:19,260 --> 01:09:21,960
know, if you combine the two
treatments, I mean, the numbers

1137
01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:25,200
is ridiculously high. Because
you know, these, these medical

1138
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,840
records are all hand done. And
they're, you know, you can't

1139
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,660
read them and you and the other
thing is people don't realize

1140
01:09:30,660 --> 01:09:35,550
the United States in particular
that the public met you as a as

1141
01:09:35,550 --> 01:09:38,850
an individual on your medical
records. The doctors do not.

1142
01:09:39,900 --> 01:09:44,070
Okay, yeah, I agree. And so you
should probably, you know, if

1143
01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:46,500
you ever change doctors, you
should ask for your medical

1144
01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:50,640
records, and put them in a file
and take them to another doctor

1145
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,430
or just do whatever you want
with them. But there's not

1146
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:57,450
there's not property of the
doctor. And that's real little

1147
01:09:57,450 --> 01:09:59,820
understood and then people seem
to assume it is

1148
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,700
But then shouldn't have the
right to decide who can see it

1149
01:10:02,700 --> 01:10:04,560
and who can do something with it

1150
01:10:04,590 --> 01:10:07,110
at the moment, yes, you could
probably do that. You could

1151
01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:09,990
probably get all your medical
records, gather them up, and

1152
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:12,150
then just tell people that, you
know, you don't have to look

1153
01:10:12,150 --> 01:10:14,850
him. I don't understand why
people don't generally do this.

1154
01:10:14,850 --> 01:10:17,550
And it's, I think has been
drummed into him that you can't.

1155
01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:20,130
And I think there's probably a
lot of doctors that don't even

1156
01:10:20,130 --> 01:10:24,540
know the facts. But the fact is
that the medical record is your

1157
01:10:24,540 --> 01:10:26,760
property, nobody else's.

1158
01:10:28,770 --> 01:10:31,680
Well, they want access to it
through the smart grid, that's

1159
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:32,250
for sure.

1160
01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:39,690
Well, they want a lot of stuff.
It is bothered irksome that you

1161
01:10:39,690 --> 01:10:44,550
know, the government would have
a oversight on on treatment.

1162
01:10:46,350 --> 01:10:48,930
Yeah, what's the point? Once you
just want you to go into a

1163
01:10:48,930 --> 01:10:51,090
computer and type in what your
symptoms aren't gonna get up?

1164
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,970
You have to grade down, you
know, government doctor in the

1165
01:10:53,970 --> 01:10:59,940
sky tell you what to do. Yeah.
We're talking about how eight

1166
01:10:59,940 --> 01:11:01,800
states have declared
sovereignty.

1167
01:11:02,940 --> 01:11:11,670
Yeah. This is their invoking the
10th Amendment, I believe. And

1168
01:11:13,020 --> 01:11:15,180
it's a 10. What do you read
laughing about don't laugh at

1169
01:11:15,180 --> 01:11:16,080
the Constitution.

1170
01:11:16,890 --> 01:11:17,640
funny about it.

1171
01:11:18,419 --> 01:11:19,949
They're invoking the 10th
amendment.

1172
01:11:20,459 --> 01:11:22,619
I don't know understand why
California doesn't do that and

1173
01:11:22,619 --> 01:11:23,639
split into three.

1174
01:11:25,020 --> 01:11:28,260
Well, this has been predicted by
many economists already that the

1175
01:11:28,260 --> 01:11:31,500
United States could possibly
split up. And the main thing

1176
01:11:31,500 --> 01:11:33,960
that's happening and this
already I think this some of the

1177
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,610
states like, I think in Texas,
it dates back to the Patriot

1178
01:11:38,610 --> 01:11:43,980
Act. Or maybe Patriot two, or
God knows what, where certain

1179
01:11:43,980 --> 01:11:45,960
states said, hey, you know what,
we're invoking the 10th

1180
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,440
Amendment, which means you just
can't overrule and do shit here.

1181
01:11:49,950 --> 01:11:52,560
You have this, you have to stay
over there and your federal

1182
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,760
land, and you have no right over
us and you can't enforce, you

1183
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:02,700
know, all these terrorism
related security measures.

1184
01:12:06,150 --> 01:12:10,200
We're gonna have to look into
this and discuss it further. And

1185
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,590
then no, this this week, did we
talk about the census?

1186
01:12:15,150 --> 01:12:18,510
Oh, that's right. That's right.
No, we didn't talk about that.

1187
01:12:19,140 --> 01:12:26,100
This was indeed news. Over the
weekend, that now the census is

1188
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:29,190
important that this is taken
every what? 10 years the census?

1189
01:12:29,610 --> 01:12:33,540
Yeah, it's important because it
is used, and I'm not quite sure

1190
01:12:33,540 --> 01:12:36,540
what the process is. It is used
to draw up congressional

1191
01:12:36,540 --> 01:12:43,170
districts. And I believe by it
may even be in the Constitution

1192
01:12:43,170 --> 01:12:47,910
somewhere, that the Census has
to be a part of the Commerce

1193
01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:51,720
Department. And essentially, it
has now been taken away. And the

1194
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,990
White House is now handling the
census. In other words, Rahm

1195
01:12:54,990 --> 01:12:59,340
Emanuel, who was running the
White House, and there's it's

1196
01:12:59,340 --> 01:13:04,320
underreported, as usual. But I
believe that politically, that's

1197
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,090
a very, very powerful weapon.

1198
01:13:08,490 --> 01:13:11,880
Well, yeah, because it seems as
though they you know, the threat

1199
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,740
is that they're going to get a
hold of the census, and then

1200
01:13:13,740 --> 01:13:16,380
they're going to have control of
the data, and then they're going

1201
01:13:16,380 --> 01:13:20,520
to redistrict, the entire United
States Chicago style.

1202
01:13:20,670 --> 01:13:22,290
So So explain that?

1203
01:13:23,070 --> 01:13:25,740
Well, you know, there's a lot of
that you see this gerrymandering

1204
01:13:25,740 --> 01:13:28,650
kind of thing that takes place
all over the place, if you get

1205
01:13:28,650 --> 01:13:32,760
enough people to California does
it constantly, right? You get

1206
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,460
enough people that do you take
over the government, you got

1207
01:13:35,460 --> 01:13:38,790
Democrat, Governor, Democrat,
everything. And so then they

1208
01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:41,460
start looking at the census
data, and then they start

1209
01:13:41,460 --> 01:13:44,760
redistricting to protect their
districts. In other words, you

1210
01:13:44,790 --> 01:13:47,910
load up with, you know, if
you're a Democrat, and you have

1211
01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:52,680
a district that has like, you
know, 50% Democrats and 50% of

1212
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:57,120
Republicans in the district next
door has, you know, 20%

1213
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:01,260
Democrats and 80%. Republicans,
you want to protect yourself, so

1214
01:14:01,260 --> 01:14:04,500
you cut out 20% of your
Republicans and give them to the

1215
01:14:04,500 --> 01:14:07,110
Republican thing because you
can't get away with them. Just

1216
01:14:07,140 --> 01:14:10,440
leave them alone. They'll have a
Republican, you know, and then

1217
01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:13,050
you're going to suck their 20
Democrats over and you end up

1218
01:14:13,050 --> 01:14:16,530
with, like, 70%, Democrat kind
of thing. You just keep

1219
01:14:16,530 --> 01:14:19,800
jiggering around. And that's why
you see these districts and

1220
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,830
callate we have one around here
that is, is doesn't make any

1221
01:14:22,830 --> 01:14:26,310
sense at all. It's got a piece
of San Jose, and then a little,

1222
01:14:26,430 --> 01:14:30,210
like two square miles up north
somewhere. There's nowhere

1223
01:14:30,210 --> 01:14:33,540
anywhere near the you know,
they're not contiguous. Right?

1224
01:14:33,570 --> 01:14:36,210
There's like chunks of things.
And that's the district it's not

1225
01:14:36,210 --> 01:14:39,060
based on geography. It's based
on demography.

1226
01:14:39,630 --> 01:14:42,840
Yeah, it's bay or Yeah, or
worse. And so anyway, so they

1227
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:48,420
have the demographic verse
version of the and so that

1228
01:14:48,420 --> 01:14:51,420
doesn't make any sense. Because
if I'm in this area, where I'm

1229
01:14:51,420 --> 01:14:54,870
going to have, you know, we're,
we're there. Things that I need

1230
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:59,310
about my streets and my roads
and my bridges. Why is somebody

1231
01:14:59,310 --> 01:15:03,840
that's out You know, 100 miles
away and some little hokey

1232
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:08,790
little town have any influence
on, you know what happens to me

1233
01:15:08,790 --> 01:15:10,410
I mean that the idea is, you
know, you're supposed to be

1234
01:15:10,410 --> 01:15:13,470
representative of these little
geographic groups because people

1235
01:15:13,470 --> 01:15:16,290
tend to, you know, huddled
together in like one town for

1236
01:15:16,290 --> 01:15:20,340
example. Why would one time
Detroit will have you know,

1237
01:15:20,340 --> 01:15:23,310
that's places like Detroit in
Chicago, where you have these,

1238
01:15:23,310 --> 01:15:26,340
you know, ethnic groups, you'll
put them all in a certain area

1239
01:15:26,340 --> 01:15:29,010
or the other way you can jiggle
it around as you jiggle around.

1240
01:15:29,010 --> 01:15:33,750
So So you have you'd have a
Republican and a Democrat areas

1241
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:36,720
that are one is really solidly
Republican, and the other one is

1242
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,680
solidly Democrat. So you jigger
it around. So it's like one

1243
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,290
point, you take the Republican
area, and yes, you push a bunch

1244
01:15:43,290 --> 01:15:46,920
of Democrats into that with 1%
over, and then you take the

1245
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,190
other one, and you leave it. So
the Democrats take over both

1246
01:15:50,190 --> 01:15:53,400
areas, even though there's like
49%. Republicans in both, they

1247
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,970
can't win anything. I mean,
there's all these little things

1248
01:15:56,970 --> 01:16:01,500
you can do to screw over the
electorate, which is what is

1249
01:16:01,500 --> 01:16:02,340
doing, by the way,

1250
01:16:02,370 --> 01:16:08,070
so this is not good. No, you
know, the I read a fantastic,

1251
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:14,520
fantastic conspiracy theory.
Which did you have a really,

1252
01:16:14,610 --> 01:16:18,480
really, really good one. Let me
just see. What one I thought I'd

1253
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:24,330
have to share with you. It was
it was about the the double

1254
01:16:24,330 --> 01:16:25,260
swearing in?

1255
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,310
Oh, yes. The one that where I
believe there's the two Obamas.

1256
01:16:29,610 --> 01:16:30,270
Right.

1257
01:16:30,450 --> 01:16:37,860
So the the theory goes, you
know, who was there was

1258
01:16:37,860 --> 01:16:41,520
continuity of government was
planned for an inauguration day.

1259
01:16:41,970 --> 01:16:44,700
And you know, that if anything
had happened to Obama, who would

1260
01:16:44,700 --> 01:16:45,930
be president?

1261
01:16:47,610 --> 01:16:49,830
It wasn't going to be Biden.
Nope. Robert

1262
01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:50,430
Gates.

1263
01:16:52,470 --> 01:16:53,640
Does that work?

1264
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,990
Well, I'm just saying, so that
it was announced. And I remember

1265
01:16:57,990 --> 01:17:01,770
seeing the announcement and
thinking, whatever. So the

1266
01:17:01,770 --> 01:17:07,110
theory is that Justice Roberts
deliberately flubbed the line.

1267
01:17:07,140 --> 01:17:10,620
So Obama would flub the line,
meaning he wasn't inaugurated,

1268
01:17:10,620 --> 01:17:14,670
meaning that Robert Gates for 36
hours was actually the Commander

1269
01:17:14,670 --> 01:17:18,540
in Chief of the United States,
and he then purged, that's the

1270
01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:22,170
word that's being used all of
the military commanders who are

1271
01:17:22,170 --> 01:17:26,790
still from kind of the the
Clinton camp and the bush camp

1272
01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:30,120
and they wanted to get everyone
out, who wasn't along with the

1273
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:34,530
program. And then he got sworn
in again properly. It's just a

1274
01:17:34,530 --> 01:17:36,780
theory, but I thought it was
interesting to well, who was

1275
01:17:36,780 --> 01:17:41,010
purged Do we have any names?
Somebody gets fired, we would

1276
01:17:41,010 --> 01:17:42,990
know about it, it would be in
the public record.

1277
01:17:43,290 --> 01:17:48,090
Well, you know, there's a couple
I think it's commanders on the

1278
01:17:48,090 --> 01:17:51,600
battlefield I don't think I
don't think it's a desk job

1279
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:52,050
guys.

1280
01:17:52,830 --> 01:17:55,050
Well, that might be but it's
still I mean, it's not as though

1281
01:17:55,050 --> 01:17:57,840
we don't know well I don't know
I don't know it was there a list

1282
01:17:57,870 --> 01:18:01,890
you read this thing it just Vega
they I mean there's just a vague

1283
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:03,390
assertion there's no

1284
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,600
there's a you know, there's a
lot of links to different

1285
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,600
articles I'll send that to you
can take a look at it. It's like

1286
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,150
a real rabbit hole man. You may
not want to go down there.

1287
01:18:13,380 --> 01:18:16,410
I'll check it out. But there is
something still sketchy about

1288
01:18:16,410 --> 01:18:22,530
the possibility they when he
because the second one the thing

1289
01:18:22,530 --> 01:18:26,310
that was weird about the second
swearing in, was that it was

1290
01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:26,940
private.

1291
01:18:27,540 --> 01:18:30,240
Yeah, no cameras allowed. Yeah,
they have some laughs to that

1292
01:18:30,270 --> 01:18:31,890
you gotta you gotta see this
whole order no

1293
01:18:31,890 --> 01:18:34,050
recordings it's I think

1294
01:18:34,140 --> 01:18:36,630
there wasn't there wasn't audio
recording there wasn't audio

1295
01:18:36,630 --> 01:18:37,110
recording.

1296
01:18:37,260 --> 01:18:42,870
Oh, there was no it doesn't
matter we know that we do we

1297
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:45,090
know that for a fact that the
auto recording actually was

1298
01:18:45,090 --> 01:18:47,790
selected. No, we don't we
because we don't have we don't

1299
01:18:47,790 --> 01:18:51,690
have a lip sync of it now. We
don't just saying because it's

1300
01:18:51,690 --> 01:18:54,750
possible that dead Obama or the
set either still not sure

1301
01:18:54,750 --> 01:18:58,950
Alzheimer's? Or you're still not
the President? Well, that's

1302
01:18:58,950 --> 01:19:03,450
probably going to be true
anyway. So see the second Obama

1303
01:19:03,450 --> 01:19:09,600
or they swore him in to some
world government office. Right,

1304
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:09,900
right.

1305
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,880
John D, sometimes you come out
of left field my jaw just drops

1306
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:18,150
man. It's love. It's a lovely
thing. I got I got something.

1307
01:19:18,900 --> 01:19:21,540
Just a little add on that we
should take into consideration.

1308
01:19:21,750 --> 01:19:24,690
I think I was listening to the
Horowitz and divorce financial

1309
01:19:24,690 --> 01:19:27,180
show which is pretty much a
repeat of all the good shit on

1310
01:19:27,180 --> 01:19:32,280
no agenda. And that's, that's
okay. You had some sound clips.

1311
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,490
I was jealous of that. We were
talking about Markopoulos This

1312
01:19:35,490 --> 01:19:39,300
is the whistleblower who blew
open the Madoff scheme and you

1313
01:19:39,300 --> 01:19:42,720
know thinking about how you know
first of all my belief now that

1314
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,810
this whole thing is rigged and
the whole thing is one big Ponzi

1315
01:19:45,810 --> 01:19:48,360
scheme and it's all a bunch of
bullshit and the bonuses are

1316
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,060
actually the way these guys get
the money out of all this crap

1317
01:19:51,060 --> 01:19:55,140
that they make up. But
Markopoulos Do you know what he

1318
01:19:55,170 --> 01:19:57,780
you know any anything about his
history? So because you guys

1319
01:19:57,780 --> 01:20:00,570
were talking about it that he
worked for a firm earned a

1320
01:20:00,570 --> 01:20:03,390
client asked him to do some due
diligence and then it led him

1321
01:20:03,390 --> 01:20:06,240
into some really simple clues
that made off was running a

1322
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:07,680
Ponzi scheme. Right.

1323
01:20:08,670 --> 01:20:14,400
Okay. And you heard that and you
and I doubt it. No decided to do

1324
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,040
some research and you found out.
Yes,

1325
01:20:17,100 --> 01:20:20,250
well, I had already found this
out. But now because I was just

1326
01:20:20,250 --> 01:20:23,790
thinking, you know, maybe he's
making a big deal about this.

1327
01:20:23,790 --> 01:20:26,430
And then you know, throwing a
couple other bones out there to

1328
01:20:26,460 --> 01:20:28,860
for everyone to be looking the
other way and not really seeing

1329
01:20:28,860 --> 01:20:31,350
the big the big mountain in
front of us that we're about to

1330
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:36,630
crash into. He led a 46 man
special ops team overseas.

1331
01:20:37,500 --> 01:20:39,390
Special Ops is no joke, John.

1332
01:20:42,870 --> 01:20:44,070
Doing what well,

1333
01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:47,310
it's special ops. So of course
it's not specified. But

1334
01:20:47,310 --> 01:20:50,340
specializes for is like delta
for stuff for the US.

1335
01:20:50,340 --> 01:20:52,980
Yeah, no, no, especially for the
army. This is like, is it a

1336
01:20:52,980 --> 01:20:56,220
jagged like the jackals of
jackals have the economic

1337
01:20:56,220 --> 01:20:56,970
hitman. Yeah.

1338
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,930
So and he

1339
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,540
that's all I know. That's all I
know. That's all you know, but

1340
01:21:03,540 --> 01:21:07,350
it was for the for the US armed
forces. Because you know, you

1341
01:21:07,350 --> 01:21:10,140
look around you you're not going
to find any details. I've tried

1342
01:21:10,890 --> 01:21:14,520
that he led a 46 man special ops
team like, well, that's

1343
01:21:14,610 --> 01:21:16,410
interesting career change.

1344
01:21:18,510 --> 01:21:21,270
But what makes it even more
interesting is the fact that

1345
01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:25,440
well, he might be a spy. My
point exactly, no, he's a front

1346
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:28,380
for the CIA. And they decided
they were sick of this Madoff

1347
01:21:28,380 --> 01:21:30,960
thing. And this Jesse see was a
bunch of bone has it, we're

1348
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:34,740
gonna do anything ever. And Bran
may be in on the deal. And

1349
01:21:34,740 --> 01:21:37,950
somebody had to blow the
whistle. So they said, Who can

1350
01:21:37,950 --> 01:21:40,350
we get? Well, this guy and they
pushed him out in front and

1351
01:21:40,350 --> 01:21:44,010
said, look, make the biggest
stink, you can. So we can get

1352
01:21:44,010 --> 01:21:45,480
you know, make some changes
here.

1353
01:21:46,620 --> 01:21:50,160
And we got some changes,
Thompson fell on her sword. And

1354
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:55,440
she quit. So now, you know, the
time that she was the worst?

1355
01:21:55,470 --> 01:21:57,930
Well, and so you know, the whole
thing stinks. Because she wants

1356
01:21:57,930 --> 01:22:00,360
she's bailing. She just jumped
out and it's happening

1357
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,140
everywhere. Finance Minister in
Germany bailed out, pulled the

1358
01:22:04,140 --> 01:22:11,460
parachute. Just today. There was
a shake up in the British

1359
01:22:11,850 --> 01:22:15,660
financial ministry. I should
read the story. But people are

1360
01:22:15,660 --> 01:22:17,970
bailing out all over the place.
They don't want any part of it.

1361
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:26,790
Yeah, why be bailing out too? I
mean, this is not going to get

1362
01:22:26,790 --> 01:22:29,820
any better for these people. So
why should they stick around?

1363
01:22:29,820 --> 01:22:32,160
Sure. Hopefully they you know,
I'm sure they have these golden

1364
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:36,060
parachutes buried here in their
guy. I mean, this. Madoff is

1365
01:22:36,060 --> 01:22:38,550
like this. Turns out his wife
took out 15 million bucks a

1366
01:22:38,550 --> 01:22:40,380
couple of days before he turned
himself in.

1367
01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:42,450
And he's still he's still

1368
01:22:43,770 --> 01:22:44,880
out walk in about.

1369
01:22:45,419 --> 01:22:48,269
Yeah. And his accountant is
never, you know, it hasn't even

1370
01:22:48,269 --> 01:22:49,739
been arrested from what I can
tell.

1371
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,490
And they showed some some poor
guy in Australia in Florida,

1372
01:22:53,790 --> 01:22:57,900
who, who was running a $300
million Ponzi scheme, which of

1373
01:22:57,900 --> 01:23:01,380
course is tiddlywinks, and
they've got him handcuffed. You

1374
01:23:01,380 --> 01:23:03,450
know, they're roughing him up
they're throwing him in the back

1375
01:23:03,450 --> 01:23:14,130
of a cop car. So get on CNBC.
And it's local local affiliate

1376
01:23:14,130 --> 01:23:16,140
coverage right so don't even
look it looks a little bit like

1377
01:23:16,140 --> 01:23:20,040
cops. I swear to god man. And
the guy's got his handcuffed

1378
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:23,190
behind his back. And you know
his hairs all toughen tussled

1379
01:23:23,190 --> 01:23:27,390
and I'm like, God, this guy No
another mini made off and it's

1380
01:23:28,590 --> 01:23:31,650
it's like they were focusing on
all the wrong things like like

1381
01:23:31,650 --> 01:23:34,920
the hearing with the bankers
yesterday. Were like, raise your

1382
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:38,910
hand if you have a private jet.
I'm God Almighty. What have we

1383
01:23:38,910 --> 01:23:41,880
lowered ourselves to? This is so
stupid.

1384
01:23:43,020 --> 01:23:45,570
Raise your hand ladies got him
pray, guys. Like yeah, of

1385
01:23:45,570 --> 01:23:45,810
course, we

1386
01:23:45,810 --> 01:23:47,130
got a private jet. You know,

1387
01:23:47,190 --> 01:23:50,880
what do you expect? But I gotta
make it a million dollars a year

1388
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,760
for the last decade plus the
hundreds of millions and

1389
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,120
bonuses. Of course, I am who
wouldn't have a private jet?

1390
01:23:57,150 --> 01:24:00,330
Yeah. But it'd be like, if you
didn't have a private jet, you'd

1391
01:24:00,330 --> 01:24:01,560
have to be an idiot.

1392
01:24:01,650 --> 01:24:05,970
It's so frustrating John,
because the public is only being

1393
01:24:05,970 --> 01:24:11,040
focused on these minut details
that have nothing to do with the

1394
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,110
big picture and the public
doesn't even understand. Let me

1395
01:24:13,110 --> 01:24:15,810
just say it for once and for
all. When you talk about

1396
01:24:15,810 --> 01:24:19,140
bankers, people, there are a
couple of different kinds of

1397
01:24:19,140 --> 01:24:23,160
bankers, and we're looking at
the wrong ones. You have retail

1398
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:27,870
bankers, and banking
institutions that take deposits.

1399
01:24:28,110 --> 01:24:31,980
Then you have the bankers that
create bullshit money out of

1400
01:24:31,980 --> 01:24:35,280
nothing. These are the guys that
are on display, who have private

1401
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:39,360
jets and take out billions of
dollars, hundreds of billions of

1402
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:43,830
dollars in bonus mean bonuses
annually. And then you have the

1403
01:24:43,830 --> 01:24:46,800
central bankers, and I've
mentioned them in that order,

1404
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:50,670
because you need to be looking
at the central bankers. These

1405
01:24:50,670 --> 01:24:53,400
are the evil people. They're the
ones that inflate the money

1406
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,160
supply. They're the ones that
raise and lower interest rates

1407
01:24:56,160 --> 01:25:00,690
for their own profit. They're
the ones you need To focus on

1408
01:25:00,690 --> 01:25:05,460
Ben Bernanke Mervyn King, who's
the guy from the European

1409
01:25:05,460 --> 01:25:09,330
Central Bank tree che, these are
the guys and the people behind

1410
01:25:09,330 --> 01:25:12,060
them who actually own the
central banks. They are the

1411
01:25:12,060 --> 01:25:15,300
culprits. Because Britain is
doing the same. It's like it's

1412
01:25:15,300 --> 01:25:17,820
so coordinated, John, they're
rolling out these bankers, the

1413
01:25:17,820 --> 01:25:20,910
bankers all do a little Mia
culpa little dance, yeah, boom,

1414
01:25:20,910 --> 01:25:22,980
I'll pay you back. And
everyone's you know, again,

1415
01:25:22,980 --> 01:25:25,770
everyone gets to yell at them,
but they're not the problem.

1416
01:25:25,890 --> 01:25:28,170
They're just, you know,
profiting in the middle.

1417
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:30,870
And of rant

1418
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,340
was a good one, not a typical.

1419
01:25:37,140 --> 01:25:40,500
So I can just run the tape every
single time. Is that what you're

1420
01:25:40,500 --> 01:25:44,820
saying? I like you should say,
Thanks, John. I'm glad we're

1421
01:25:44,820 --> 01:25:47,460
doing this show two times a week
now with that attitude, and God

1422
01:25:47,460 --> 01:25:48,090
damn, yeah.

1423
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:54,510
So okay, so here's So, back to
that concept. So I've been

1424
01:25:54,510 --> 01:25:57,480
asking around and Horowitz and I
discussed this. And I had,

1425
01:25:57,480 --> 01:26:02,220
nobody's actually denied the
possibility of your theory being

1426
01:26:02,250 --> 01:26:06,000
parsed part of the problem. Your
theory being that at the federal

1427
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:06,390
state,

1428
01:26:06,420 --> 01:26:10,500
the Federal Reserve started
offering interest on deposits

1429
01:26:10,530 --> 01:26:14,460
and excess deposits, not just
reserved deposits as of October

1430
01:26:14,460 --> 01:26:15,060
6,

1431
01:26:15,630 --> 01:26:20,370
right, which is when the market
began, slide is actually tanked.

1432
01:26:20,940 --> 01:26:25,410
And that's because what, and the
thinking would be that the banks

1433
01:26:25,410 --> 01:26:27,900
that have the ability that
they're connected to the Federal

1434
01:26:27,900 --> 01:26:31,740
Reserve would just as soon give
them all the money that they

1435
01:26:31,740 --> 01:26:34,980
have just to collect whatever
interest they can get, rather

1436
01:26:34,980 --> 01:26:37,380
than put it in this crazy
market, which is, you know,

1437
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:41,610
which is unstable, and you could
still lose more money by being

1438
01:26:41,610 --> 01:26:45,720
in it. So why loan out a nickel
to the public or anybody else,

1439
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,060
or a business or a letter of
credit or anything else? When

1440
01:26:48,060 --> 01:26:51,030
you have easy money, guarantee
free

1441
01:26:51,030 --> 01:26:53,910
guaranteed money? 75 basis
points? Actually, I got the

1442
01:26:53,910 --> 01:26:58,590
spreadsheet, it went up. They
were doing 1% at one and one

1443
01:26:58,590 --> 01:27:02,880
point. So 125 basis points at
one moment, that's a lot.

1444
01:27:03,660 --> 01:27:07,080
It is for that kind of move for
this huge amount of money. Yeah,

1445
01:27:07,140 --> 01:27:11,700
I mean, it's ridiculous. And so
if that's the case, you're never

1446
01:27:11,700 --> 01:27:16,770
gonna get credit back until this
against but if the thing is

1447
01:27:16,770 --> 01:27:20,640
designed to to rig the system,
which we're going to have to

1448
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:25,080
assume since we you know, follow
the oil scam. And then we watch

1449
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,620
the all this crazy stuff going
on with guys like Matt often

1450
01:27:28,620 --> 01:27:33,420
other words is there's too much
basic corruption. If the idea is

1451
01:27:33,420 --> 01:27:36,120
to rig the system, in other
words, tank the economy economy

1452
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,960
artificially, yes, yes, shake
everything down. And the banks,

1453
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,330
meanwhile, end up look, here's
what you guys have, you know,

1454
01:27:42,330 --> 01:27:45,570
you could say, You banks now
hold all these properties that

1455
01:27:45,570 --> 01:27:47,160
are just, you know, in the
toilet,

1456
01:27:47,190 --> 01:27:49,500
90 million homes in the US

1457
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:53,190
19 million homes we're going to
keep, they all of a sudden say

1458
01:27:53,190 --> 01:27:56,610
okay, the interest rate deal is
off, we're not going to offer

1459
01:27:56,610 --> 01:27:59,010
any more free money, you got to
put your money back in

1460
01:27:59,010 --> 01:28:00,810
circulation, which you're going
to have to do because they can't

1461
01:28:00,810 --> 01:28:04,890
just sit on it. And let the
things start cranking back up

1462
01:28:04,890 --> 01:28:07,380
again, should go up as fast as
it went down, which would be

1463
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,560
which is what happened with oil,
by the way, went down as fast as

1464
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,920
it went up. So it'd be a quick
turnaround. Meanwhile, to

1465
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,220
sweeten the pie, you guys have
got 19 million homes that you

1466
01:28:17,220 --> 01:28:21,840
can put on the market as the
market recovers, and just

1467
01:28:21,870 --> 01:28:25,470
ratchet it right up to whatever
get us back to where we were or

1468
01:28:25,470 --> 01:28:28,020
close. And well, there's

1469
01:28:28,830 --> 01:28:32,010
there's a kink in your theory
there because the Fed has done

1470
01:28:32,010 --> 01:28:35,580
something interesting this week.
And you'll have to help me

1471
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:40,980
through it. They have now
started buying treasuries and

1472
01:28:40,980 --> 01:28:45,360
like billions and billions of
dollars worth of treasuries. And

1473
01:28:45,660 --> 01:28:48,810
isn't this the first I think
it's the first time ever the Fed

1474
01:28:48,810 --> 01:28:49,590
has done this?

1475
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:56,280
Well, let me think what would be
the reason to do that? I'm sure

1476
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,950
somebody out there can come up
with some one of our crazy

1477
01:28:58,950 --> 01:29:03,210
listeners probably. I think it's
either in some way to screw

1478
01:29:03,210 --> 01:29:06,210
China. This would be my just
have a laundry list of things.

1479
01:29:06,210 --> 01:29:09,360
Yeah, no, screw China is high on
the list. Because remember,

1480
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:12,360
these are all just gangs
fighting against each other.

1481
01:29:12,750 --> 01:29:17,430
So it's either the screw China,
or to position yourself into a

1482
01:29:17,430 --> 01:29:20,460
spot where where you can
actually profit from treasuries

1483
01:29:20,460 --> 01:29:25,050
going up in value, which would
happen if you crank the economy

1484
01:29:25,050 --> 01:29:29,280
back up by pulling the plug on
this free money, get the economy

1485
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,190
back on track, crank it up. So
you have this two year by the

1486
01:29:32,190 --> 01:29:35,850
way, which is what happened at
90, you have this two year boom,

1487
01:29:36,270 --> 01:29:38,700
which then brings all these
properties of these real estate

1488
01:29:38,700 --> 01:29:41,520
properties back into the market.
Everything starts going up. It's

1489
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:45,090
heats up the economy, you have
to increase interest rates, as

1490
01:29:45,090 --> 01:29:47,430
because right now they're down
to zero they actually buried it

1491
01:29:47,430 --> 01:29:51,030
so it's almost nothing if it's
not nothing. Treasuries, then

1492
01:29:51,030 --> 01:29:53,220
was starting to become more
valuable because they would be

1493
01:29:53,220 --> 01:29:55,380
paying out more money and then
they would go out so they would

1494
01:29:55,380 --> 01:29:57,300
go up in price with these guys
who make a killing on

1495
01:29:57,300 --> 01:29:57,930
treasuries.

1496
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,500
And please remember that the
Federal Reserve is owned by

1497
01:30:04,500 --> 01:30:08,730
private banks we don't even know
who owns all the Federal Reserve

1498
01:30:08,730 --> 01:30:11,040
because it's unpublished
information and considered

1499
01:30:11,070 --> 01:30:15,600
private so so they're just gonna
go that's a double whammy John

1500
01:30:18,119 --> 01:30:21,869
it's a double whammy these guys
just can't help but make money

1501
01:30:22,379 --> 01:30:26,129
Yeah, yeah well that could be I
mean that seems like

1502
01:30:26,130 --> 01:30:28,980
a legit make sense and you all
the bankers in the middle that

1503
01:30:29,010 --> 01:30:32,910
they're just facilitators you
know, they're just they're just

1504
01:30:32,910 --> 01:30:34,590
in the middle of it and they're
getting their pay out like these

1505
01:30:34,590 --> 01:30:36,780
guys don't care. They've already
been paid. They've already got

1506
01:30:36,780 --> 01:30:40,890
their their foreign investments.
They've got that land they know

1507
01:30:40,890 --> 01:30:42,840
where they're escaping to they
know we're going to where

1508
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:46,320
they're going to get away.
Paraguay Hey, we got a juicy we

1509
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,050
got a note from a report from
Gitmo nation south.

1510
01:30:49,470 --> 01:30:53,790
Yeah, or Paraguay guy? Yeah. Let
me just see. Did you Hey, says

1511
01:30:53,790 --> 01:30:55,950
that the bushes are sitting on
top of the world's biggest

1512
01:30:55,980 --> 01:30:59,400
aquifer. Yeah, that

1513
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:03,390
was last week. He said something
new. I thought.

1514
01:31:04,140 --> 01:31:05,670
Yeah, it was most at the end
here. It

1515
01:31:05,670 --> 01:31:11,400
is. A Christian is his name.
Here it is. I will tell you

1516
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:12,180
everything he said.

1517
01:31:18,180 --> 01:31:18,720
Oops.

1518
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:23,910
Oh, yeah. Everybody here hates
the US in general. Not because

1519
01:31:23,910 --> 01:31:28,680
Hugo Chavez. This is another
Google Translator job. I'll read

1520
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:32,250
it verbatim. It's really hard to
understand. I know that over

1521
01:31:32,250 --> 01:31:35,880
here. Everybody hates us in
general around here not because

1522
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:40,050
Hugo Chavez, it's because what
the US have done in the 70s and

1523
01:31:40,050 --> 01:31:43,410
80s. Around here. Okay. And the
News Daily hitmen? Here's the

1524
01:31:43,410 --> 01:31:47,160
interesting thing. In the
newspapers in general, they are

1525
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:53,610
well test matching, but I think
comparing Obama to Hitler. Yeah.

1526
01:31:53,730 --> 01:31:57,810
Wow, that's weird. And he sends
a link to a newspaper. Did you?

1527
01:31:57,810 --> 01:32:00,660
Did you look at that link? Yeah.
Yeah. Hitler's terrible with

1528
01:32:00,660 --> 01:32:01,860
weapon publicity.

1529
01:32:03,510 --> 01:32:06,570
My god. Yeah, it's actually an
interesting article is in the

1530
01:32:06,570 --> 01:32:10,530
Washington Post. And it kind of
talked about how, you know,

1531
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:15,150
well, you know, the story be,
you know, Hitler had gurbles.

1532
01:32:15,420 --> 01:32:20,730
And his PR dude, who was a PR
guy, basically. And the thing

1533
01:32:20,730 --> 01:32:23,460
was, is that if you read Greg,
by the way, if anybody like who

1534
01:32:23,460 --> 01:32:26,490
just is a public relations
person, or they want to study

1535
01:32:26,490 --> 01:32:30,630
propaganda, most of gurbles
speeches and talks, and a lot of

1536
01:32:30,630 --> 01:32:33,480
his papers are online, here and
there in translation, they're

1537
01:32:33,480 --> 01:32:37,770
very interesting to read. And
he's Arabis very thoughtful

1538
01:32:37,770 --> 01:32:42,030
public relations, propaganda
guy, you know, on the same, you

1539
01:32:42,030 --> 01:32:47,130
know, in the same league as
Obama's campaign.

1540
01:32:48,270 --> 01:32:50,340
What's his name? Alex,

1541
01:32:50,999 --> 01:32:54,749
got the mustache Axelrod and
whatever Axelrod, Axelrod and

1542
01:32:54,779 --> 01:32:59,249
Karl Rove, obviously, have to
read this stuff. But what it

1543
01:32:59,249 --> 01:33:03,329
was, is that the only reason
that Hitler was such a PR nut in

1544
01:33:03,329 --> 01:33:07,109
terms of developing imagery, and
all this is because in World War

1545
01:33:07,109 --> 01:33:11,459
One, we were the geniuses at the
time. We the United States, in

1546
01:33:11,459 --> 01:33:14,339
particular, we're the ones and
if you look at World War One

1547
01:33:14,339 --> 01:33:17,279
posters, which are available at
the Library of Congress, you

1548
01:33:17,309 --> 01:33:21,149
look at many of them there. Look
at look at World War One

1549
01:33:21,179 --> 01:33:24,419
propaganda posters, and we're
the ones that were just, you

1550
01:33:24,419 --> 01:33:28,499
know, calling the, the, you
know, the Germans, giant rapist

1551
01:33:28,529 --> 01:33:30,839
apes, you know, and they had
pictures of them. And they were,

1552
01:33:30,839 --> 01:33:32,729
you know, we didn't know what a
German looked like. So they made

1553
01:33:32,729 --> 01:33:36,749
him look like a gorilla. And
with a helmet on, you know, and

1554
01:33:36,749 --> 01:33:40,769
basically with dead women in
both arms, you know, yeah, rock

1555
01:33:40,769 --> 01:33:44,579
walking across Europe, and just
really, you know, heavy hitting,

1556
01:33:44,969 --> 01:33:47,219
you know, to get the and this by
the way, it's from the benefit

1557
01:33:47,219 --> 01:33:49,559
of the bankers too, because the
bankers are deep into debt with

1558
01:33:49,559 --> 01:33:50,189
the British we

1559
01:33:50,190 --> 01:33:54,090
have which which banker? John
just specify which bankers can't

1560
01:33:54,090 --> 01:33:58,440
remember. But anyway, so, like
the Rothschild like bankers must

1561
01:33:58,440 --> 01:33:59,280
have been, it seems

1562
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:03,360
so yes. But anyway, so they,
they cranked up the propaganda

1563
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:06,060
machine, they got the public,
oh, we got to stop these should

1564
01:34:06,060 --> 01:34:11,010
we must stop them. And, you
know, we got involved and ended

1565
01:34:11,010 --> 01:34:13,800
up you know, at the time, by the
way, just before World War One,

1566
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,260
especially around the turn of
the century, the United States

1567
01:34:16,260 --> 01:34:20,310
and Britain Britain were not.
Not friends.

1568
01:34:21,330 --> 01:34:26,040
No, no, in fact, were the the
Anglo the Dutch Anglo Empire and

1569
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:27,480
the US made enemies

1570
01:34:28,350 --> 01:34:32,880
right. Largely, yeah. Hmm. And
that's

1571
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,210
part of our special relationship
as they call it, we have a

1572
01:34:36,300 --> 01:34:37,710
special relationship

1573
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:41,370
so we weren't friends and then
they'd propaganda machine

1574
01:34:41,370 --> 01:34:46,050
cranked up and somehow made us
you know, friends and we had to

1575
01:34:46,050 --> 01:34:50,250
go help them. So so the so the
Germans were aware of this and

1576
01:34:50,250 --> 01:34:53,250
gurbles bitches about this
incessantly in many of his

1577
01:34:53,250 --> 01:34:55,920
papers, saying, you know, how
are you here? Here's we got beat

1578
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,320
and we didn't get beaten by a
better army or by anybody got

1579
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:03,750
beaten by propaganda. And so he
made an effort to make sure that

1580
01:35:03,750 --> 01:35:08,160
Hitler had the best propaganda
machine in the world, and could

1581
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:11,730
just pretty much take on anybody
from that perspective. You know,

1582
01:35:11,730 --> 01:35:14,640
I mean, they made everything
sound like it was. It was good.

1583
01:35:15,210 --> 01:35:19,710
And so now I guess in South
America, some people are quoting

1584
01:35:19,890 --> 01:35:22,560
what Obama did, because it was a
propaganda machine par

1585
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:27,480
excellence, from a guy who's
really inexperienced is pushed

1586
01:35:27,480 --> 01:35:30,570
this guy right to the top with a
lot of really good work. And the

1587
01:35:30,570 --> 01:35:33,120
posters which was plagiarized,
by the way,

1588
01:35:33,149 --> 01:35:34,169
excellent work, though.

1589
01:35:34,739 --> 01:35:38,399
Excellent work, and bingo, that
guy is the President now and so

1590
01:35:38,399 --> 01:35:40,229
that you can see the
association.

1591
01:35:40,529 --> 01:35:43,529
What were the wheels are coming
off the PR machine, because I

1592
01:35:43,799 --> 01:35:47,819
quite clearly saw President
Obama promised that Treasury

1593
01:35:47,819 --> 01:35:50,579
Secretary Timothy Geithner would
have all the details of the

1594
01:35:50,579 --> 01:35:54,989
plan. And then, you know, that
was supposed to happen Monday,

1595
01:35:54,989 --> 01:35:57,809
and they postponed it till
Tuesday. And I'm sitting there,

1596
01:35:57,809 --> 01:35:59,699
I'm like, I'm ready. You know,
I'm watching. I'm watching.

1597
01:35:59,699 --> 01:36:04,379
We've got Erin Burnett on the
scene, you know, I'm ready. And

1598
01:36:04,379 --> 01:36:09,269
then these guys danzi says
nothing, absolutely nothing. In

1599
01:36:09,269 --> 01:36:13,199
fact, they even said, we have no
plan. We'll have a lot of a plan

1600
01:36:13,199 --> 01:36:16,439
to in the next couple of weeks
market starts tanking as as he

1601
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:24,059
speaking, it drops 300 points.
And that I'm sure the only thing

1602
01:36:24,059 --> 01:36:28,259
I can deduct from that is that
there's a huge problem because

1603
01:36:28,289 --> 01:36:32,069
that kind of PR mistake that I
mean, they're no rookies when it

1604
01:36:32,069 --> 01:36:33,239
comes to that they wouldn't have

1605
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:36,270
somebody screwed up. It wasn't
it wasn't it wasn't keeping his

1606
01:36:36,270 --> 01:36:39,330
eye on the ball. So I'm looking
at treasuries, 30 year

1607
01:36:39,330 --> 01:36:44,040
treasuries, and that same date,
the October surprise,

1608
01:36:44,580 --> 01:36:46,980
that's a good one, John, thank
you.

1609
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:52,260
That thing was floating around
$4.25 and it dumped it to about

1610
01:36:52,260 --> 01:36:53,220
250

1611
01:36:53,250 --> 01:36:55,770
Right? So first, they tank they
tank everything, then they start

1612
01:36:55,770 --> 01:36:56,490
buying them up,

1613
01:36:57,180 --> 01:37:00,060
and then they start buying up so
it's floating around 350 But if

1614
01:37:00,060 --> 01:37:03,690
you have billions and trillions
of dollars, you can't really

1615
01:37:03,690 --> 01:37:06,600
invest it in anything without
moving the stock itself. But you

1616
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,400
could do that with these
treasuries you know, they have

1617
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:12,060
already moved it up to 350 but
this but it's historically

1618
01:37:12,060 --> 01:37:16,230
trades around five so there's
there's a big pile of money to

1619
01:37:16,230 --> 01:37:20,100
be made and nice margin in there
it for big money. I mean, this

1620
01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:21,420
is the not privacy for so

1621
01:37:22,350 --> 01:37:25,080
perhaps what we what we're
seeing here, John is the middle

1622
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:30,420
guys, you know, the city banks
and the JP Morgan's and Goldman

1623
01:37:30,420 --> 01:37:32,730
Sachs. So they've they've really
they've made all their money,

1624
01:37:32,730 --> 01:37:37,020
they paid themselves over $150
billion in bonuses in the past

1625
01:37:37,020 --> 01:37:40,230
year and a half trillion of
those big yachts yet they so

1626
01:37:40,230 --> 01:37:43,950
they've made all that money and
now the real evil people are

1627
01:37:43,950 --> 01:37:46,200
going to make their money and
they do it on a much bigger

1628
01:37:46,350 --> 01:37:49,500
scale with a with this type of
treasury scam.

1629
01:37:51,330 --> 01:37:57,480
Yeah, that could be whatever the
case is. Wow. That would it's

1630
01:37:57,480 --> 01:37:59,850
actually good news for the
public if actually if the if

1631
01:37:59,850 --> 01:38:05,070
what we described comes to pass.
This will be a good thing for

1632
01:38:05,070 --> 01:38:10,380
us. Why? Because it'll get the
economy going again, because you

1633
01:38:10,380 --> 01:38:12,990
can't get a loan or anything.
These guys are basically locked

1634
01:38:12,990 --> 01:38:13,710
everyone out.

1635
01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:15,000
I don't I don't think

1636
01:38:16,050 --> 01:38:19,380
I have a bad benefit to publicly
if it happens

1637
01:38:19,380 --> 01:38:21,660
that way. But I have a bad
feeling about the economy

1638
01:38:21,660 --> 01:38:24,300
recovering. That's my point.
Yeah, I'm

1639
01:38:24,330 --> 01:38:29,580
still optimistic. No, one of us
is and I will say Well somebody

1640
01:38:29,580 --> 01:38:33,390
has to be and I would make Why
am I is a buzzkill.

1641
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,770
No one ever said you were you
keep making a point at

1642
01:38:37,770 --> 01:38:44,910
pot and the buzz kill and
divorce. Okay, I still believe

1643
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:46,560
that none of this would have
happened.

1644
01:38:46,590 --> 01:38:51,750
Oh wait. It's crackpot and the
buzzkill and Devorah that's what

1645
01:38:51,750 --> 01:38:52,500
it's supposed to be.

1646
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,170
Let me go kill this phone call.

1647
01:38:56,430 --> 01:39:03,780
You kill that phone call, man.
So are you Yeah, killing it?

1648
01:39:03,780 --> 01:39:05,250
You're answering the phone call?

1649
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,620
No, I just want to see what it
was. But it's you know what it

1650
01:39:07,620 --> 01:39:10,320
is, is that same call I get
every time we do a show with

1651
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:15,150
this recording about somebody
who does rug cleaning. And I

1652
01:39:15,150 --> 01:39:18,450
can't get off this list. They
keep calling me. Unbelievably

1653
01:39:18,450 --> 01:39:23,220
annoying. Your rug? AAA rug
cleaning. You have rugs that you

1654
01:39:23,220 --> 01:39:25,530
need cleaned? If so stay on the
line.

1655
01:39:27,630 --> 01:39:29,880
All right. Let me ask you one
question is we gotta close this

1656
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:34,680
up, man. We're a buck 39 This is
way overdue this too long. So

1657
01:39:34,710 --> 01:39:38,460
the stimulus package looks like
it's passed. Looks like I mean,

1658
01:39:38,460 --> 01:39:42,600
it's gonna go through there were
three, three Republicans who

1659
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:45,750
were thanked incessantly, by the
way at the bailout press

1660
01:39:45,750 --> 01:39:49,170
conference yesterday. The two in
particular are snow and Specter.

1661
01:39:49,620 --> 01:39:52,080
So they're the ones that crossed
the line and essentially got

1662
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:56,040
this thing passed through. So
remember those names, but why is

1663
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:59,970
it how can how can all these
people on one hand say we had to

1664
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,060
RAM this through really quick
because every single day is

1665
01:40:03,060 --> 01:40:06,840
costing you know, 1000s of jobs,
billions of dollars. We're all

1666
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:10,260
going to die. Yet when you look
at it all those spending happens

1667
01:40:10,260 --> 01:40:20,460
in 2010. How does that work?
Magic? All right. That's good

1668
01:40:20,460 --> 01:40:23,700
enough for me, man. Magic. It
is. Like it. We're

1669
01:40:23,700 --> 01:40:25,470
back on Sunday. Yeah, we're

1670
01:40:25,470 --> 01:40:28,950
gonna do it Sunday for sure. Oh,
yeah. Yeah, it makes sense. Just

1671
01:40:28,950 --> 01:40:31,680
to have the have a couple of
days in between, although

1672
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:32,460
Saturday. Yeah.

1673
01:40:32,970 --> 01:40:35,520
Well, it gives me a chance to do
it on Saturday. But you know,

1674
01:40:35,730 --> 01:40:40,110
let's do it. Sunday. Let's do it
Sunday. Then your but what

1675
01:40:40,110 --> 01:40:43,260
always happens then is then you
have you're so hyped up. And

1676
01:40:43,260 --> 01:40:46,230
you're, of course, because it's
such a fantastic show. Then you

1677
01:40:46,230 --> 01:40:51,240
go and you repeat all the stuff
on twit. Yeah, so you're gonna

1678
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:52,500
watch a crossover? Man.

1679
01:40:52,620 --> 01:40:55,050
By the way? I don't repeat
anything on Twitter. Are you

1680
01:40:55,050 --> 01:40:59,790
kidding me? Are you kidding me?
You're you're like nuts. When it

1681
01:40:59,790 --> 01:41:01,050
comes to this stuff is bull.

1682
01:41:02,310 --> 01:41:05,490
You always repeat topics we
discuss on no agenda on twit.

1683
01:41:06,300 --> 01:41:08,520
Well, you know, like those of us
always say if you have a good

1684
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:11,130
thing. You know, you have
something that people are

1685
01:41:11,130 --> 01:41:13,200
interested in and you want to
repeat yourself, just keep

1686
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:15,420
repeating yourself because
they're still interested. I

1687
01:41:15,420 --> 01:41:17,790
don't think it's a bad thing. If
I'm doing that, but I'm not.

1688
01:41:18,510 --> 01:41:20,940
We're going to talk about the
Munich Security Council on

1689
01:41:20,940 --> 01:41:21,390
Twitter.

1690
01:41:21,750 --> 01:41:23,730
Come up, you watch you watch it
come up.

1691
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:27,780
It will now. By the way, Leo.

1692
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:32,760
Take a look at the speed C span
piece for six hours. It's

1693
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:36,660
really, it's really worth it.
You'll enjoy it very much when

1694
01:41:36,660 --> 01:41:40,050
you do this, and I wish to talk
about that another time.

1695
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:44,040
Besides I do a lot of cross
referencing, we need to market

1696
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:46,170
the show up. We need another
50,000 listeners.

1697
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:50,010
Wait a minute, we're going to
talk about our donation scheme.

1698
01:41:50,999 --> 01:41:53,879
Yes, we're going to have a
subscription based thing we have

1699
01:41:53,879 --> 01:41:56,669
to get some income for doing
this. And we're going to ask

1700
01:41:56,669 --> 01:41:58,079
people to subscribe and let

1701
01:41:58,440 --> 01:42:00,660
me let me give it let me give a
little bit of background to

1702
01:42:00,660 --> 01:42:04,410
that. The reason why we need
this is because when the economy

1703
01:42:04,410 --> 01:42:08,550
really comes crashing down, we
won't have any money either. So

1704
01:42:08,610 --> 01:42:11,250
we'd like to have a little bit
to set aside I think we should

1705
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:15,720
every donation John we should
convert into gold. We could do

1706
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,330
that. Yeah. And we won't spend
it we'll just keep it in gold

1707
01:42:18,330 --> 01:42:21,540
and it could be like an
emergency fund for all of our

1708
01:42:21,540 --> 01:42:22,230
listeners.

1709
01:42:23,129 --> 01:42:25,379
Is it a Pay Pal accountant as
good as gold?

1710
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:35,370
Yeah. Okay. And with that,
ladies and gentlemen, we closed

1711
01:42:35,370 --> 01:42:41,220
down the show. crackpot on the
Buzzkill. Coming to you from

1712
01:42:41,220 --> 01:42:45,240
Gitmo nation east in southwest
London in the curry terrace. I'm

1713
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:45,870
Adam curry.

1714
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,830
I'm John C. Dvorak in Silicon
Valley north and I'm also known

1715
01:42:49,860 --> 01:42:52,800
as the optimistic Buzzkill.

1716
01:42:53,820 --> 01:42:56,940
We'll talk to you again on
Sunday right here on no agenda