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Once again it's time for the
programme that has no music, no

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commercials, no jingles, no
talent and absolutely no agenda

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coming to you from the curry
manor in the United Kingdom. I'm

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Adam curry.

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And I'm John C. Dvorak up here
in northern California a long

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ways off

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and it is. The sun has
definitely gone over the

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yardarm. Here it is pitch black
outside fi, what is it for

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4:30pm on Saturday, so that
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time San Francisco.

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Lectures 857

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Oh, I'm sorry. I was looking at
the second hand. Yeah. It's even

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even more time gap between your
house and my house. It's amazing

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how that works.

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So yes, it sounds coming up.
It's actually up quite a bit so

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far. Seems like it's up for the
night think it should be. But

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there it is. And we do have sun
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although we have a lot of high
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sun's coming up.

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It's been it's been very very
cold here in the UK for the

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past. I think the past two weeks
just really cold like constantly

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around the freezing point. Which
made my Christmas shopping that

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much unhappier today.

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Oh, yeah. I usually go Christmas
shopping the night before

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Christmas.

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Well, that's too last minute,
man.

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Yeah, well, the funny thing is
you run into a lot of if you go

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on Christmas Eve, besides the
fact that they throw everything

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on sale, you run into and I've
done this for years, decades,

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you run into fellow travellers
who are who are just the same

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you know, they're just like you
they go in the last day. They've

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been doing it for years. And
they all you kind of like your,

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your immediate friends with all
of them and you'd joke about it.

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And it's a dislike a whole
different crowd of people is

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mostly men. And they're out you
know, shopping around and it's

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the funniest thing is because
it's like one of those deals

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where you just like your pals
with these people without even

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knowing them and you're all
y'all know what you're up to.

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I really got boned I had had
Christina I spy on on her mom to

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find out what she wanted.
Because you know, when it comes

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down to the the right, the right
or wrong bag or shoes or

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whatever, you know, I there's no
way I can buy that. I have no

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idea what I'm doing. So I
unfortunately, I met her after

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she was working today. And so I
met her after work. And she and

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she had to go to go for a
driving lesson. So I said oh

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here the boots that mom wants.
And I said what size is size

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three? Okay, so of course they
only have size four, right? And

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my daughter is gone. So I'm like
helpless walking around going

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oh, what other boots will do
well, of course I have no

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frickin clue would you do?
Nothing? Nothing yet. I have to

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go back tomorrow. I gotta I
gotta Shanghai, my daughter into

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going with me. I'm completely
lost. I have no idea what I'm

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going to do.

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Actually, my wife this year made
an edict, which is that we can't

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buy gifts that aren't either
hand made. Oh, or or used. Wow.

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Is this a part of the stop
consumerism? Very proud of you,

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John?

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Yeah, I think it is because
we're kind of sick of it. But

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it's pendulum swinging back,
dude. It's gonna happen for

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everybody.

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Well, luckily, there's like, you
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Berkeley area. There's like a
lot of high end. extremely

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competent potters. And artisans.
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Telegraph Avenue weekend thing,
which is hilarious. I mean, if

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you want to see tie dye, it's
like, I think I'll post some of

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these pictures. I was there last
weekend. What is

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the interior of your house?
Like? Is it like a Western vibe

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or

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to collect it?

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Gee, how surprising. Hey, all I
can say I did some research. You

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might. I think you told me you
listen to the source code. So

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maybe you already heard about
this. I wanted to ask you about

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Steven Brill. Yeah, does that
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Steven Brill the guy who did the
that magazine. That's that Brill

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Brill's a bunch of Brill's
content. Yes,

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yeah brailles content so guess
what, guess what else he

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did after after Brill's content
folded in 2001. Tell us he

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started a little known company.
Which is so little no verified.

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Id systems I think it is who are
the people who are rolling out

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the clear programme. The
verified identity pass. Yeah,

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this is the thing at the
airports now where you give you

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the government your retinal scan
and your fingerprint and your

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fingerprints.

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And you can roll right past the
gate. Well,

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no, you can't actually you get a
different a different line but

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you still have to take your
shoes off and your bags less to

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go through X ray and you still
can't have liquids and you know

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there's it's just a it's a
separate line. That's all I just

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found that interesting that he
had set that up.

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Is I wonder if that's the same
because somebody was telling me

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about what it is that the only
system that has the bypass

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because the one this other guy
was telling me I had a different

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name.

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Now there were a couple of pilot
projects that ran but it seems

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like yeah, now that that Brill's
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looks like he's the only guy
that that is really doing it.

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But it's all part of the oh,
what does it call it thing? It's

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the targeted traveller programme
or something like that? That

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would be you. Yes. Now it's a
TSA. TSA initiative. And so they

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rolled out a couple of pilot
programmes and and I guess this

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is the better brand or whatever,
but you don't know him

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personally, I thought you might
know him.

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You know, I ran into him once.
And I don't really know him as

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like, if he sees me. Or if I see
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a runaway man run away from him.

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I wouldn't probably recognise
him, unfortunately. But you

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know, if I maybe give me a comp,
not to mention,

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as long as you give up your
retinal scan, you'll be fine.

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You know, they probably have it
already.

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My wife doesn't want me to talk
about this stuff anymore.

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Because she's gonna be next on
the list. No, no, no, no.

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She said, I have a bad you know,
Adam

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curry, are you married to him?
Come on with us.

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She says, I have a really bad
feeling about this. You really

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got to be careful with what
you're talking about.

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Yeah, what she's referring to,
of course, if people want to go

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back and listen to previous
shows, is the fact that every

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time you come into the USA, they
stop you for one hour and a half

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just to harass you.

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Well, you keep saying it's just
to harass me, but it's it's

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obviously because their computer
system is saying that there's a

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reason to speak to me. But it's
not really harassment. They just

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they do that. It's just dumb.
You know, it's an inefficient

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stupid systems. They've already
asked me the same questions tend

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to oh, five times.

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I get maybe this here's, let's
try this. I think we should

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start experimenting. Okay. Now
this time, next time you come

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in, which will be the you know,
in a few weeks, I think around

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the 15th. You're going to you're
going to just say, Well, you

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know, they started asking, start
asking your questions before

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they take you sighs You stop and
say, Wait, stop. Second. You

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just wanting my autograph?
Right.

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That's all that's all this is
about. Okay, great one. John.

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Can't wait to try it. The domain
name now that is don't send Adam

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to get mo.com

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That'll probably trigger
something that, you know, that's

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probably like a key word that
the NSA is like scanning for

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national on. Why shouldn't we? I
wonder what's the reason for

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this? So suspicion.

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So she's probably now it's not
it's not just about that. But

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damn, damn you. Curse you, John
C. Dvorak, you got me into this

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Confessions of an economic
hitman. Yeah, book by John

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Perkins. And you had mentioned a
couple times get the audio book

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and actually did. And so I
listened to it over over the

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course of the week. And yeah, I
think probably the stuff that's

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been coming out of my mouth here
at home since since I completed

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that book, is this caused her
the most concern

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that she had she listened to it
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No, she hasn't, you know, and,
and I, and I'm, I'm just about

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ready to start showing her some
of the the masses of videos that

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are out there online, because,
you know, of course, I look a

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guy like this up this John
Perkins and he's got links to,

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you know, other journalists and
these are serious as dudes who,

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you know, have quite a record
quite a journalistic record. And

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they're uncovering some amazing
things. And, and, you know, from

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that I wrote what I what I've I
rolled into, you know, you have

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a lot of these 911 conspiracy
videos. I mean, there's at least

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four or five well produced ones
that are out there and available

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online

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right now. Yeah. And you know,
the fact that group as a whole

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are called the truthers. Yeah
guy renders the truthers which

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is really, which is actually
kind of an interesting term

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because it's catchy in some
screwball way. But anyway, ran

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into the truthers seem to crop
up as a group and I ran into a

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pile of them with their signs of
signage and they I think they

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should I haven't blogged this
because I took some photos

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Yeah, they show up at media
events typically where there's a

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camera so they can show up in
the shot Yeah.

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With the with the with the
signage that says you know, tell

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the truth about 911. Anyway,
they're out in front of kg Oh,

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studios in San Francisco, and
then I'm and I ran into one of

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them, who I happen to know or
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that. She, you know, you said

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you just want my autograph,
don't you?

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We So using that as a
catchphrase, yeah, anyway, so,

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so they handed me they have
these discs that they hand out,

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they tell you to reproduce them
and scatter them around. And so

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they gave me a couple of DVDs.
And they're, it's like really

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good which which ones remember
the titles because I probably

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you know I don't have the title
The titles are like also kind of

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not like

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nine the 911 Empire

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they're all I did the DVDs got
like a bunch of these

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documentaries on each one.
There's only there's two of

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them, right? Yeah, but it says
tell the truth about you know,

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something or others is the name
of the organisation. I don't

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follow that closely. Because
they're kind of nutty. But

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anyway, so what I started
looking at one of the DVDs I

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seem to have lost the other one
is how conscientious I am. But

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the but it's actually there's
once you get past a poor

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production values of some of the
earlier videos, there's actually

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some good stuff in there. And
there's a lot of questions that

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still you know, it seems to me I
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stems around the World Trade
Centre seven

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right exactly because of you
know, the timing how that came

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down the so called command to
quote pull it. And you know, all

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these all this scientific
evidence surrounding the use of

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thermite, which is used in
demolition. There's a tonne a

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tonne of that. And I have to say
that, you know, now we're

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getting some of the some videos
that a little, you know, the

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production value is a little
higher. A lot of this seems to

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come from, you know, this guy
would think his name is Alex

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Jones. infowars.com.

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Is this site? Oh, yeah. Yeah,
that guy. Yeah. So,

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you know, and that's kind of the
problem, you know, as you see

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this guy, like, you know, he
does seem indeed a bit nutty

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when you get into

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He also seems like a huckster.
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he does that, and it's
unfortunate. But I bumped into

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so I've seen all these videos,
and I don't talk about it

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anymore, because it's an endless
debate. Right? I have to say

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the, you know, the videos that
have been put together, Wow,

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very convincing stuff. But I
found this other site pilots for

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911 truth.org. And like, well,
that's interesting, because, you

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know, there's something I don't
know anything about thermite. I

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don't know anything about
demolition, I do know something

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about flying. And very
interesting. They, under the

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Freedom of Information Act, they
asked for the black box data.

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It's about 25. Meg's worth of
data, and you know, this, the

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black box, tracks speed, the
inputs on the controls,

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obviously, altitude, pitch, yaw,
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attitude of the aircraft, if
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lot of a lot of stuff is stored
there. So under Freedom of

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Information Act, I said, you
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know, comma, what does that see
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comma separated values. That's
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a spreadsheet, and they loaded
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some very interesting
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mean, like, really, really
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it. In fact, if the data was
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called Impact The aircraft was
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altitude. So it flew over the
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that the NTSB sent. Now, that
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simulator, in fact, the
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180 feet, so just about a ground
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forgot, or, you know, somehow
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was no reset of the altimeter.
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at the pressure settings for
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that aircraft was flying. And
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that was sent to them by the
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over the Pentagon and 480 feet
so you know, at least there's

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there's some some stuff in there
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further investigation and
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Yeah, I think so. But, you know,
I don't think it's gonna happen.

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I think the official word is
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with. You know, I was reminded
during there's a little air era,

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I mean, this is like the guys
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Oklahoma City bombing and how to
explosions and they found that

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two things and you can look into
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and never ends, because you can
second guess everything. But the

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I'm always reminded of the early
reports of, I'll bring this one

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up for the nut balls out there.
The early reports of the fact

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that the planes were flown into
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which was kind of us screwball
concept of use if you ask me,

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but but there used to be, in
fact, the guy still exists. They

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used to be a kind of a crackpot
writer that had all kinds of

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weird information that he used
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in like the 90s. And there was
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in fact, that book, you're
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an economic hitman talk about
how they like to assassinate

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people with plain wrecks. Yeah.
Plays. Right. And they because

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you know, people are flying
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they're, you know, they crash
all the time. Anyway. And so the

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pilots have viral Thank you.
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the the Clinton used to have
this guy who was the head of the

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Democratic National Committee,
this black guy, and remember, he

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used to be on TV all the time.
He's a fast talking character

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was really good at that making
the Republicans life miserable.

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And he died in some mysterious
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during some period where he was
involved with some scandal and

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did the whole thing seems
suspicious to me. And this guy

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that I'm going to refer to in a
minute, you wrote it up as an

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assassination. And he had all
this information was kind of

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interesting. And it could, you
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the head of the body. Nobody
wants to talk about things like

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that. So anyway, that guy, that
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all the time, because for no
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entertaining. And even though
some of it was completely off

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the wall, then the guy's name
was Jay Orlan grab, and J Orlean

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grab, wrote up his analysis of
the 911 situation, which

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included the remote control
flying, and shortly thereafter,

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his material sites all became
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with a lot of women. And, and he
was like, and you can't find his

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essays anymore? No, I mean, if
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And if you do find anything by
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nothing compared to what he was
doing in the 90s. Maybe he's

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getting old. But I can't tell.
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found that kind of interesting.

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You know, I have to say that,
and I'm very prone to obsessive

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compulsive behaviour. So you
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stuff and, you know, I'll pull
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for the past couple of years,
I've been looking at a lot of

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these. And I think, well, first
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pretty good that people are
doing this. And, you know, the

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more I think about how can we
stop a lot of this insanity,

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which you can't even explain in
a in a in a half hour show as to

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what, what actually potentially
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big, big global scale. I think
that, that the internet is

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actually is is the way that it's
all going to unravel. You know,

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there are no secrets is my
slogan, only information you

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don't yet have. So there's bound
to be people who know something,

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and something's going to come
out and it will come out through

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the net. I'm quite sure of it.
Now, will it get squashed? Will

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it get written off as those
Kooks perhaps Perhaps, but I

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think the the message is getting
out. And you know, and these are

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very, very powerful images,
there's certainly nothing of

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equal power to these these
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mainstream media, absolutely
nothing even close to it. And

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this is, this is just really
riveting stuff, you know, and I

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have no reason to believe it's,
it's dark. I mean, you look at

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the people who are giving
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These are scholars, John, these
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dumb disc jockeys like me.

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Well, you know, the problem with
that, you know, and I actually

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have the opposite take on this.
Insofar as the internet is

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concerned, I believe the
internet's got so much

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information, good, bad. And so
much disinformation. And it's

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can be, it can be so overloaded
with Bs and crazy people and

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people who are pretending to be
crazy and all the rest of it,

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that the truth is probably
harder to discern. And gets more

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clouded than ever before. And so
I think you can get away with

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more, not less, because of it,
to be honest about it.

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Yeah, but But it's, you know,
it's not like this stuff. It's

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not like the internet produces
this, this comes from from other

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people in there. And I think
that the, you know, the way that

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it typically works on the
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things that are kind of complete
bubble up and you know, that

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everyone's a filter. And I in my
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for other people. And I don't
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optimistic view.

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Yeah, no, I have totally
pessimistic view. In fact, I

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think I think the Internet can
be used to manipulate things to

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an extreme and I think we're
going to witness some really

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outstanding examples of this in
the future. Be fun to watch to

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be honest about it. Which we're
starting to see this a little

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bit with my theory anyway with
the political Little campaign

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because I've still been a
believer that McCain is just to

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get the chosen one. And and they
have to start destroying some of

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these guys that keep creeping
into the mix to kind of, you

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know, almost win and I Huckabee
is the main one and Huckabees is

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this Baptist minister kind of
another's words out there maybe

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he's not and there's a lot of a
lot of interesting dataspace

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starting

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right the real campaign is now
starting.

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Yeah, he's he's like, you know,
he seems to be for Mexicans

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taking over the country if you
read carefully enough. Anyway.

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Yeah, the starting and the key,
the key one of the key elements

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and then somebody has a lot of
influences Rush Limbaugh, who's,

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for the European viewers, he's a
very popular right wing talk

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show. He's the one who invented
right wing talk, talk radio. And

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in 1987, when the when they pass
the or they revoke the

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law that equal equal time law.
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yeah, that was revoked in limbo
jumped on that immediately. And

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within two years, and the next
thing you know, he's like a

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millionaire with his own private
jet. And, you know, a drug

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habit,

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drug habit. Yeah. But friends of
mine who actually, business

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partners, got him going, they
sold all of his ads. It was an

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amazing business in those early
years. I mean, just hundreds and

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hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Well, so he has but the word or
at least the belief is even

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though nobody proves and he
denies this constantly, that

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he's really a spokesperson for
for the established Republican

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Party. The true leadership,
whoever they are this secret

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club. And so if he's right, and
if you listen to him, you get

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some of the you get a flavour
for what might be coming down to

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down and he coined the penny and
Huckabee is in his sights as a

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target. Oh, okay. So, right. So
he's coined that he calls him he

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calls him now he started by
calling him huckster, B. Yeah.

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And then now it's just the
huckster refer to them and I'm

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so as I started hearing this, I
said, Well, this guy's got, you

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know, he'd have limbaugh's doing
this. And he just the beginning

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is the opening salvo. It's about
it's about the start, and

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Huckabee is going to be screwed.
But meanwhile, he's getting into

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kind of a interesting debate
with this other guy who's a more

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interesting character that they
gotta move aside, which is Mitt

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Romney. Remember, Mitt Romney
looks a lot if anybody in Europe

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knows movie actors, he looks a
lot like treat Williams, playing

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one of those evil businessman
that he used to do in a lot of

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movies. Probably better than
anyone. And he has said, evil

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businessman treat Williams look,
and good looking guy, and Mormon

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and apparently an incredible
incredible businessman probably

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worth billions let you

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know that his the Bain Capital
his one of his hedge funds that

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he's involved in is the I think
at this point, the only serious

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contender and bitter to buy
Clear Channel.

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Right? Yeah, he wants to buy
which would be a great idea. I

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wish he would buy Clear Channel
because it would turn into the

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Mitt Romney channel. But
whatever kidding. I mean,

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there's been attempted before
the William Randolph Hearst, the

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first head, you know, own most
of the newspapers in the

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country, many of them and he
tried to become president and

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that didn't work out. It doesn't
you can't necessarily trick the

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people by owning all the media,
even though people like to think

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you can. And you don't own the
internet and the internet can

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cloud anything, as I said. But
anyway, but the beginning, the

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true contenders for this, for
these offices, were not the

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really, my initial belief, to
about two years ago was that the

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ticket was going to be McCain
and Giuliani, which I thought

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was an unbeatable ticket. I
mean, that nothing that

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Democrats could put up could
beat those two guys. But now you

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know, Giuliani still hanging in
there, but you know, they don't

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want him to be president. And
now he's sick or something.

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Yeah, something like something
like bug. Yeah, but it's but

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they call it flu like, like what
does that mean?

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Yeah, what does that mean? Yeah,
good point. Flu like, which

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means he was puking basically
dehydrated Yeah,

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it probably poisoned him. So

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the first thing I thought when I
read that is huh, radiation

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sickness perhaps

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that's possible to whatever the
case you know, this whole the

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race is up for grabs. And I
still I'm still believer and I

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think I thought you know,
because McCain was went soft on

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Bush during an era where he was
being really raked across the

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coals when he tried to run for
president some years earlier.

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And I And I'm absolutely sure a
backroom deal was done saying

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look, you Bush's got to be in
for this next election. Well,

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you're the next guy.

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Right? You're next in love. Just

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shut up. Get out of the way.
Don't do anything to ruin this

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because we can't you know, lose
to these other idiots, and, and

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we'll give it to you for the for
the 2008. And and that's why

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I've always believed that McCain
is so relaxed during this

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campaign he doesn't even seem to
be you know, he's just coasting

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waiting for the, for the
fulfilment of the promise later

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in the year. This is my
conspiracy theory it's not a

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conspiracy just you know a
meeting happened and this is

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what they're going to do. Well,
it's

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interesting I did see, I wasn't
what I watched recently, it was

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an old it was an older Meet the
Press with John Kerry and John

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McCain together. And you're
right, the guy just sits there,

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you know, completely at ease.
But I'm not liking all the stuff

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that's coming out of his mouth,
quite honestly. And

437
00:25:45,059 --> 00:25:47,399
he's getting to, you know, this
is a problem, he's getting a

438
00:25:47,399 --> 00:25:51,209
little cocky. And then he shows
up any any she's the only guy by

439
00:25:51,209 --> 00:25:54,629
the way that consistently shows
up on the Jon Stewart show. And

440
00:25:54,629 --> 00:25:58,619
John Stewart is like a and then
they apparently are friends or

441
00:25:58,619 --> 00:26:01,559
you know, have become friends.
And Stuart, of course, as a

442
00:26:02,069 --> 00:26:04,559
night Wednesday is a socialist,
but he's definitely a liberal.

443
00:26:04,889 --> 00:26:09,269
And, and, and one of the few
funny liberals that knows how to

444
00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:15,029
handle the media, and you know,
and get the get the dog knows

445
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:21,629
how to twist the knife with
humour. And he and McCain just

446
00:26:21,629 --> 00:26:25,319
get along famously and they
exchange barbs and they. And

447
00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:28,769
it's actually quite interesting
to watch this. And I think

448
00:26:28,769 --> 00:26:34,949
that's all part of the overall
scheme. Well, it could be it's a

449
00:26:34,949 --> 00:26:40,199
theory. And that's when I will
actually I usually put money on

450
00:26:40,199 --> 00:26:43,979
the elections when only near the
end. I mean, I, I have already

451
00:26:43,979 --> 00:26:47,519
put, I think two bets down that
the Republicans will win again.

452
00:26:48,299 --> 00:26:49,889
Well, first, we got to get
through, we got to get through

453
00:26:49,889 --> 00:26:53,639
the next stage. So you're saying
McCain will will will get the

454
00:26:53,639 --> 00:26:54,869
ticket for the Republicans?

455
00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:57,989
That's what my theory is, but I
don't care who gets it, they'll

456
00:26:57,989 --> 00:27:01,199
still win. I don't see the
Democrats being able to feel

457
00:27:01,199 --> 00:27:03,779
that and I've taken this bet
twice now and I'll take it with

458
00:27:03,779 --> 00:27:04,529
anybody. Really?

459
00:27:04,530 --> 00:27:06,510
You think the next President
will be a Republican?

460
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,830
Absolutely. There's

461
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:13,500
no question about it. Wow. Wow,
I don't think the Democrats have

462
00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:16,830
anyone that can field. And I
think in fact, my original

463
00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:20,670
again, couple years ago, my, my,
my view of things was going to

464
00:27:20,670 --> 00:27:26,490
be a McCain Giuliani versus
Hillary Obama. And because

465
00:27:26,490 --> 00:27:28,980
there's a weird logic to the
idea of running Hillary and

466
00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:32,580
Obama, which is that, you know,
you'll get all the women and

467
00:27:32,580 --> 00:27:34,740
you'll get all the blacks to
vote for them. Because there's a

468
00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:37,350
woman in a black thinking that,
you know, everybody's an idiot,

469
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:43,110
and, and you can't lose. So I'm
still, I'm still sticking with

470
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:44,490
the Hillary Obama ticket.

471
00:27:46,109 --> 00:27:49,169
I mean, you know, I will
probably be proven wrong, but I

472
00:27:49,169 --> 00:27:52,349
truly believe that they're, you
know, so few people turn out to

473
00:27:52,349 --> 00:27:57,899
vote anyway. I believe that an
outsider could come in and could

474
00:27:57,899 --> 00:28:00,719
steal this race away. And
particularly because it started

475
00:28:00,719 --> 00:28:04,829
so early, the press is already
getting extremely bored of

476
00:28:05,849 --> 00:28:09,149
either nothing happening. In
fact, nothing is happening. It

477
00:28:09,149 --> 00:28:12,329
just boring, you know, so
they're making shit up. And, you

478
00:28:12,329 --> 00:28:15,179
know, that's, that's why like,
the Ron Paul blimp works. And

479
00:28:15,179 --> 00:28:17,399
you know, there was real good
coverage for the $6 Million

480
00:28:17,399 --> 00:28:22,889
Dollar Man, you know, $6 million
raised on on the was at the 16th

481
00:28:22,889 --> 00:28:26,879
of December. You know, I think
that's why Huckabee gets, you

482
00:28:26,879 --> 00:28:31,829
know, gets lifted up. I think
that at the end, at the end of

483
00:28:31,829 --> 00:28:34,409
this race, we'll see that
there's a lot more exposure and

484
00:28:34,409 --> 00:28:37,109
a lot more attention for some of
these more like fringe

485
00:28:37,109 --> 00:28:39,179
candidates, I think that's
really going to happen. It's

486
00:28:39,179 --> 00:28:42,839
it's, you know, it is it truly
is how television works. They

487
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:44,999
are already bored of what's
going on.

488
00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:48,120
Yeah, you know what I think's
going to happen after this

489
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,240
election, that somehow the
political Politico's are gonna

490
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,240
get together and they're gonna,
they're gonna have a meeting,

491
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,700
you know, it's all one party
anyway. They're gonna have a

492
00:28:56,700 --> 00:29:00,600
meeting and say, Look, this is
killing us this long hoots who

493
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,060
came up with that idea that we
should run this election for

494
00:29:03,060 --> 00:29:06,480
like over a year, it's scattered
the money because they'd rather

495
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,610
have the money just go into, you
know, towards, you know, the

496
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,820
word belongs rather than
scattered all over the place,

497
00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:15,360
but withdrew a bunch of maniacs.
They're going to have to do

498
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,570
something about this. They
cannot do this again, because

499
00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:23,700
which is again, may show up at
the end when they reanalyze this

500
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,310
this election cycle. They're
going to say this, what did

501
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,520
didn't work to the public's
benefit? You know, you're going

502
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,350
to end up with the candidates
that weren't leading at the

503
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:33,270
beginning and then you just have
a bunch of money.

504
00:29:33,539 --> 00:29:37,199
So there's no one running the
country back in Washington. Did

505
00:29:37,199 --> 00:29:42,209
I not see was it Chris Dodd who
created this filibuster to stop

506
00:29:42,209 --> 00:29:45,209
the the new FISA act?

507
00:29:46,829 --> 00:29:49,409
Yeah, I haven't. You know, I
hate to say I haven't been

508
00:29:49,409 --> 00:29:51,479
following that closely. I get
that kind of.

509
00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:54,659
Well, I heard you say on
tariffs. I heard you say on tech

510
00:29:54,659 --> 00:29:56,999
five that it had gone into law
that it

511
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,970
had passed. No, I admit I
screwed up. It was a mistake.

512
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,960
Okay. And and it was, it was
essentially the law, the vote

513
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,380
was to keep the debate going or
not going the whole thing is a

514
00:30:07,380 --> 00:30:08,100
joke. Well, the

515
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:11,700
thing is, is the amnesty for the
telco companies, what what this

516
00:30:11,730 --> 00:30:15,480
revised FISA bill said amongst
other things was and FISA is

517
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,810
basically this whole wiretapping
bill, which says, you know, you

518
00:30:18,810 --> 00:30:23,220
can get a wiretap under certain
circumstances without a warrant

519
00:30:23,220 --> 00:30:26,010
through the traditional court
system. I'm just paraphrasing,

520
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,550
I'm not a lawyer. But in
addition, in the new FISA law,

521
00:30:29,550 --> 00:30:33,480
which expires, I believe, you
know, in a week or so, the old

522
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,560
one, the which would mean,
wiretapping would have to go

523
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,600
back to the way it's supposed to
be, which is like you get a

524
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,020
proper warrant. And it takes a
couple days. But anyway, in this

525
00:30:43,020 --> 00:30:48,960
new FISA Act, the telecom
companies who had conspired with

526
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,580
the government to give them data
about their customers, were

527
00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:59,970
basically being pardoned going
back five years in time. And so

528
00:30:59,970 --> 00:31:04,470
I believe Chris Dodd stopped
this. And they and they actually

529
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:08,310
took it off the table. And they
won't vote on it until after the

530
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:10,920
new year, and they're going to
try and revise it. And you know,

531
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:15,120
and try and, and I guess they're
gonna try and keep that part in.

532
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,070
But that obviously, is horrible.

533
00:31:18,780 --> 00:31:22,380
Yeah, no, that's a bad thing.
But you know, these guys have

534
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,420
played ball. And you know,
against probably what they

535
00:31:27,420 --> 00:31:30,270
should have done, a couple of
them didn't at least exclaim

536
00:31:30,270 --> 00:31:32,340
they didn't, they said, Look,
these guys came in, it didn't

537
00:31:32,340 --> 00:31:34,710
sound right to us that we should
be listening to his customers,

538
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:37,770
because we have laws that
prevent us from doing that. And

539
00:31:37,770 --> 00:31:42,450
they just wanted to do it for
you know, just kind of a broad

540
00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:46,080
way, just listen to everything,
collect all of calls into a big

541
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,220
database, and then go over them
later data mining, and we didn't

542
00:31:50,220 --> 00:31:53,400
think this was something that
was legal, and they told him not

543
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:56,400
that it weren't going to do I
think was one of the quest guys

544
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,800
and some other guys would
refuse, but the 18 T and all

545
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,780
these other guys, sure,
whatever, we don't care, you go

546
00:32:00,810 --> 00:32:03,720
and, and, you know, whatever,
you know,

547
00:32:04,349 --> 00:32:07,409
I have an 18 T account. That's
my cell phone. So that's

548
00:32:07,409 --> 00:32:11,579
probably the Echelon me probably
heard me talking to you.

549
00:32:14,069 --> 00:32:19,169
Probably in there, I'm sure for
I don't know, I don't know I

550
00:32:19,169 --> 00:32:22,379
there's still baffles me why
you're under constant scrutiny

551
00:32:22,379 --> 00:32:22,799
or scrutiny.

552
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,590
Hey, man, we wrote a couple of
things down there earlier in the

553
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:27,480
week that we're going to talk
about, do you have your list?

554
00:32:27,930 --> 00:32:31,140
Oh, yeah. Hang on one second. I
put a pause in there because I

555
00:32:31,140 --> 00:32:31,830
do have the list.

556
00:32:31,859 --> 00:32:34,649
Well, you got your headphones on
while you're getting in or just

557
00:32:34,649 --> 00:32:46,979
walk away. I have to walk away.
Well, then let me let me let's

558
00:32:46,979 --> 00:32:54,449
see. Maybe I have something I
can play. Maybe there was a

559
00:32:54,449 --> 00:32:56,519
voicemail comment that we had
that came in

560
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,000
you know, I have this. I have
this bad habit of writing stuff

561
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,000
on sheet little, you know, I
have my latest thing is I take

562
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:12,570
printouts that are that the
backside are blank, right. And a

563
00:33:12,570 --> 00:33:15,120
lot of printers, I have a duplex
printer, but most of them are

564
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,930
just blank. And so I flipped the
things over and I use them as I

565
00:33:18,930 --> 00:33:22,740
fold them in half vertically,
and then I use that as my note.

566
00:33:22,740 --> 00:33:25,230
Thanks. So I have piles of these
things. Yeah, I use

567
00:33:25,230 --> 00:33:31,260
my my one side printed paper for
filters. I rip off little little

568
00:33:31,290 --> 00:33:32,640
strips and unroll that up.

569
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:37,050
Okay, now here's the problem
with the notes I took.

570
00:33:38,069 --> 00:33:39,959
Okay, at lunch.

571
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:43,049
This is the problem. This is
like,

572
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:45,149
we had good stuff, John.

573
00:33:46,049 --> 00:33:50,399
One of them was like this. It's
this is the note and that we hit

574
00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:52,619
then you have to kind of
extrapolate Why did I write

575
00:33:52,619 --> 00:33:55,679
this? It's almost like you know,
when you're in college and you

576
00:33:55,859 --> 00:34:01,979
you took notes on passing
thoughts, usually late at night,

577
00:34:01,979 --> 00:34:05,159
and they don't make any sense.
The next day, a million people

578
00:34:05,159 --> 00:34:06,959
probably sent this to you
already.

579
00:34:06,990 --> 00:34:11,070
Oh, I know what that is. I know
what that is. We were talking

580
00:34:11,070 --> 00:34:16,050
about how when you're, you know,
so either, you know, I have a

581
00:34:16,050 --> 00:34:18,330
company's there's 100 people in
the company. But you know,

582
00:34:18,330 --> 00:34:21,510
there's, there's a lot of people
that I know. And look, I'm

583
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:25,980
famous, what can I tell you John
C. Dvorak, you're famous. And so

584
00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:29,250
what you get when you have a
certain level of fame, is that

585
00:34:29,250 --> 00:34:34,170
people send you stuff. And
they'll say, you know, you

586
00:34:34,170 --> 00:34:36,480
probably have already had a
million people send you this

587
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,440
link. But anyway, here it is.
And it's a really tough

588
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,440
situation because the fact of
the matter is most people

589
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,290
actually believe that someone
else already sent it to me and

590
00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:49,350
then you wind up not knowing
fucking shit, because no one

591
00:34:49,350 --> 00:34:52,170
sends you anything anymore. So
whenever someone sends me

592
00:34:52,170 --> 00:34:54,900
something like that, I'm always
saying, hey, thanks. No first

593
00:34:54,900 --> 00:35:00,000
one, like first post. Great job.
I keep trying to. I'm sure you

594
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,900
have the same thing?

595
00:35:01,350 --> 00:35:03,300
Absolutely. I get a lot of
these. And they always say the

596
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:06,930
same thing, which is a million
people probably sent this to you

597
00:35:06,930 --> 00:35:10,050
already. But yeah, and then they
send you some links that you've

598
00:35:10,050 --> 00:35:14,850
never seen in your life. Nobody
else sends it. No, no one sent

599
00:35:14,850 --> 00:35:19,050
it before or after you go, wow,
this is interesting. And it

600
00:35:19,050 --> 00:35:21,720
could have to do with the
company or working for something

601
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:24,330
like, you know, you made a
mistake on the blog for whatever

602
00:35:24,330 --> 00:35:27,750
it is. Yeah, that happens.
Everyone assumes that, you know,

603
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:30,150
the extent you do have, I mean,
there are numbers here, I'm in

604
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:34,530
the blog, my blog has like a
million pageviews a month plus.

605
00:35:34,860 --> 00:35:38,580
And so there's 30 or 40,000
people that hit the thing every

606
00:35:38,580 --> 00:35:44,010
day. So it would seem likely
that these 10s of 1000s of

607
00:35:44,010 --> 00:35:48,150
people would say something, when
you know, you're just you got

608
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:51,180
it. So but they don't which
because they always assumed that

609
00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:53,490
the next guy did, which is like,
you know, I think this is

610
00:35:53,490 --> 00:35:56,610
happening, this concept is
happening on a global basis.

611
00:35:56,940 --> 00:35:59,640
Because I know for a fact that
when I'm driving past, like

612
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,760
years and years ago, when I had,
you know, when I when I actually

613
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,610
carried a cell phone, I would be
on the freeway and I'd see a

614
00:36:05,610 --> 00:36:07,950
wreck and I call CHP and say,
you know, there's a wreck on

615
00:36:07,950 --> 00:36:11,580
such and such right here, right?
And now you get to the EU, I

616
00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:13,770
think most people, myself
included, somebody but

617
00:36:13,770 --> 00:36:17,190
someone already called it in
Yeah, exactly. Exactly, exactly.

618
00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:20,730
And there's a transition point,
because I remember calling those

619
00:36:20,730 --> 00:36:23,580
in, and I was like the guy
calling them in. And then at one

620
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:26,370
point somewhere along the line
every time I called them, they

621
00:36:26,370 --> 00:36:31,080
said, Oh yeah, we've got that
one somebody called. And then

622
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,630
you stop calling and then nobody
calls it in, because I've seen

623
00:36:33,630 --> 00:36:36,660
some of these wrecks out here.
They've been there for hours.

624
00:36:36,690 --> 00:36:37,200
Yeah. And,

625
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:43,740
like, call it in. Right? Yeah.
So please consider your

626
00:36:43,740 --> 00:36:49,680
celebrity friends. And do so and
do send us that link. We really

627
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,700
do appreciate it.

628
00:36:51,180 --> 00:36:55,260
So anyway, that's yeah, not
because now you get too much. I

629
00:36:55,260 --> 00:36:59,010
don't know if you knew this, but
kind of thing. There's another

630
00:36:59,010 --> 00:37:02,730
thing I brought on this list,
which is, you know, people

631
00:37:02,820 --> 00:37:05,910
Kissinger came out with a
comment that we can never we

632
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:09,360
have son some show, I think was
in Europe. He was on the BBC or

633
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,030
someplace saying, you know, we
can't, this war in Iraq is

634
00:37:12,060 --> 00:37:15,270
unwinnable because, you know,
there's nobody that can, you can

635
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:18,450
win against because there's no
other side. You know, it's just

636
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:22,320
scattered bunch of, you know,
people doing whatever they do.

637
00:37:22,860 --> 00:37:25,590
So there's no, you can't have a
table, there's no surrender

638
00:37:25,590 --> 00:37:28,350
table, or somebody can come and
sign over here, right? Because

639
00:37:28,350 --> 00:37:32,310
it's just so what's so reminds
me just forget it, we're going

640
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:36,180
to be there for the rest of our
lives for some reason. And I'm

641
00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:38,520
thinking, Well, you know, the
one thing that I say, Well, you

642
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,710
can't cut and run, you can't do
this. She can't do that. And

643
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:44,340
every time I'm always hearing
about how, how, how can we can't

644
00:37:44,340 --> 00:37:48,990
just pick up and leave. I'm
thinking, isn't this the kind of

645
00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:52,020
criticism that we used to have
against Asians in general about

646
00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:56,010
their concept of saving face?
Whereas it's what a bunch of

647
00:37:56,010 --> 00:37:58,170
dingbat, you know, their state
can't do this, they can't do

648
00:37:58,170 --> 00:38:00,450
that, because they can't,
because they wouldn't be saving

649
00:38:00,450 --> 00:38:03,660
face, you know, they, they would
be humiliated, accused of Face

650
00:38:03,660 --> 00:38:06,540
Face Face this concept of saving
face. And we always thought that

651
00:38:06,690 --> 00:38:10,620
it's purely an Asian phenomenon
about saving face, when in fact,

652
00:38:10,620 --> 00:38:12,810
apparently it's not because
that's what this is all about.

653
00:38:12,810 --> 00:38:14,010
It's saving face.

654
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,860
Well, really, it really it's
about the United States saving

655
00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:20,790
face in both. It's what I mean.
Yeah, in both cases, I'm looking

656
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:25,920
at the article now. If you mean
by military victory and Iraqi

657
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,800
government that can be
established and whose writ runs

658
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,500
the whole country that gets the
civil war under control and

659
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:34,080
sectarian violence under control
in a time period that the

660
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,050
political process of the
democracies will support? I

661
00:38:37,050 --> 00:38:39,690
don't believe that is possible.
He told the BBC,

662
00:38:40,169 --> 00:38:43,229
great course that got no play in
the US. No, of course not.

663
00:38:43,230 --> 00:38:46,830
Well, getting this from MSNBC,
which the first hit on Google,

664
00:38:46,830 --> 00:38:49,920
but now of course, the fact that
the fact of the matter is

665
00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:51,120
not to us.

666
00:38:52,350 --> 00:38:56,640
Good point. The fact of the
matter is, is that you know,

667
00:38:56,670 --> 00:38:59,640
it's it's all about the flow of
money

668
00:39:00,660 --> 00:39:03,660
for an ask as you read that
book, I think it's about saving.

669
00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:06,480
I think it's about saving face
at this point. I think the flow

670
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,010
of money things already been
controlled.

671
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,980
No, no, no, it's it's you know,
what just happened here. Here

672
00:39:10,980 --> 00:39:17,010
comes Adams finance segment of
the week. No, no. Yep. The Saudi

673
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:23,910
royal family and Saudi Arabia as
a as I guess, a kingdom are

674
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:29,430
putting together the sovereign
Saudi Saudi Arabian fund a

675
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:34,290
trillion dollars, trillion
dollars, and they're going to

676
00:39:34,290 --> 00:39:42,360
lend this money to whom? To us.
We could use it to our, to our

677
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,800
banks to you know, to and
essentially it's, it's just

678
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,230
money that's coming in, that's
going to be paid for more

679
00:39:49,230 --> 00:39:52,350
infrastructure in Saudi Arabia.
It's crazy.

680
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:55,020
I know the whole thing of
laundering

681
00:39:55,020 --> 00:39:59,760
money. It's really interesting.
So, so Okay, anyway,

682
00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:03,150
So let's make the oil $100 A
barrel and then we'll give you

683
00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:04,290
half of it back.

684
00:40:04,620 --> 00:40:06,780
It is $100 a barrel.

685
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,470
Yeah, pretty much. I mean it's
not quite as thick as 96 or

686
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:13,380
something today but or
yesterday. Yeah, it reminds

687
00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:16,230
me every single time I see those
numbers you know it reminds me

688
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:18,720
of Waterworld. You ever seen
that movie with Kevin Costner?

689
00:40:19,230 --> 00:40:20,940
Yeah. Where? And that's

690
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:23,880
one of the corniest weird films
ever.

691
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:27,090
Yeah. But you know, what I liked
about it was everyone was after

692
00:40:27,090 --> 00:40:30,570
the Go juice, you know, you had
to have go juice to make your

693
00:40:30,570 --> 00:40:34,740
engine go. And you got the big
pirate ship. And I kind of

694
00:40:34,740 --> 00:40:37,680
imagined that that's, you know,
I'll wind up one day like that,

695
00:40:37,710 --> 00:40:40,830
you know, a big pirate ship.

696
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,030
Well, that reminds me there was
a good let's see, it wasn't

697
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:50,190
Death Race 2000. It was, there
was another movie, which is a

698
00:40:50,190 --> 00:40:52,050
call from I can't remember the
name. But some of you are out

699
00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:56,490
there knows it. But it was it
was a movie about a guy who got

700
00:40:56,490 --> 00:41:01,140
a hot like a big sports car, or
like a racing car named shot

701
00:41:01,140 --> 00:41:04,260
across the country to get to
free California, California,

702
00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:09,390
which was the only free country
left in the world. And he was

703
00:41:09,390 --> 00:41:12,480
shooting across and he had his
whole time he was going there

704
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,780
trying to kill him constantly.
Missiles and everything else was

705
00:41:15,780 --> 00:41:18,570
he'd stop it all his old gas
station because gasoline was was

706
00:41:18,690 --> 00:41:21,330
eliminated, we couldn't have
gasoline anymore. But all the

707
00:41:21,330 --> 00:41:24,810
old gasoline has had a few
inches of gasoline left at the

708
00:41:24,810 --> 00:41:28,260
very bottom of the pumps, the
pumps wouldn't go all the way

709
00:41:28,260 --> 00:41:31,830
down, of course. And because it
couldn't hit the bottom, and it

710
00:41:31,830 --> 00:41:35,760
could suck up rust as a reason
if anyone wants to know. And so

711
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,850
he could take a tube and run it
down at the bottom and syphon up

712
00:41:38,850 --> 00:41:42,090
a few gallons for his race gun
and shoot off and toward

713
00:41:42,090 --> 00:41:45,270
California. And I can't remember
the name of that thing for the

714
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:50,850
life of me. But anyway, that was
a similar kind of thing for

715
00:41:50,850 --> 00:41:54,690
gasoline has become this weird
commodity. What else is on our

716
00:41:54,690 --> 00:41:57,660
list? No, no, something more
interesting than that. I hope.

717
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:02,820
We should talk a little bit
about the fact that I have

718
00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:06,300
another one here says this is
another example of my kind of

719
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:09,060
note taking. And I'll tell you
what it is you maybe you can

720
00:42:09,090 --> 00:42:18,720
says French and then there's an
arrow pointing to IBM. Okay,

721
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:19,740
that good gets nothing.

722
00:42:20,940 --> 00:42:23,880
The hell was that about French
arrow, IBM?

723
00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:27,930
No, no, here's another one does
promise because these are all

724
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,240
once they get over three or four
days old, they'd make no sense

725
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:34,950
to me. Here's another one.
ambulance chasers with an arrow

726
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:39,720
along arrow pointing to age. And
underneath age in a box is

727
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:43,140
written the word ramps and then
another arrow pointing to

728
00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:43,620
nothing.

729
00:42:43,890 --> 00:42:47,640
Okay, I remember parts of this
that part of this was about San

730
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,590
Francisco being very disabled
friendly. The ambulance chasers

731
00:42:52,590 --> 00:42:57,240
was about lawyers who used to
literally wait outside our

732
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:00,510
building when we were a public
company. You're right, right,

733
00:43:00,510 --> 00:43:03,120
right. And then ask women, you
know, Hey, did this happen to

734
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,730
you today? Because then you have
a sexual harassment suit, the

735
00:43:05,730 --> 00:43:12,150
age thing came from me telling
you that I had training, you

736
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:17,190
know, HR training and in a job
interview, you cannot ask

737
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:21,000
someone how old they are, if you
do right and get sued later for

738
00:43:21,090 --> 00:43:23,640
age discrimination suit, but I
have no idea what it was in

739
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,330
reference to.

740
00:43:25,019 --> 00:43:28,169
I think we're talking about I
think maybe we've been talking

741
00:43:28,169 --> 00:43:30,989
about even the the office
romance a book that was written

742
00:43:30,989 --> 00:43:33,839
recently by Stephanie Losee that
we covered on a cranky show.

743
00:43:33,839 --> 00:43:37,949
Yeah, yeah. And she was always
she was shocked by the fact that

744
00:43:38,249 --> 00:43:41,069
she had all the big agents and
all the publishers seemed

745
00:43:41,069 --> 00:43:43,709
interested, but nobody wanted to
publish this book, right. But I

746
00:43:43,709 --> 00:43:47,969
had taken that HR course on
sexual harassment. And if you

747
00:43:47,969 --> 00:43:50,969
really look into it, I mean, you
can't do anything you can't even

748
00:43:50,999 --> 00:43:54,479
you know, say hello to a woman
new without the possibility

749
00:43:54,479 --> 00:43:57,749
existing it you're gonna get
sued. And so I told her that the

750
00:43:57,749 --> 00:44:00,539
real promise because of these
the way sexual harassment has

751
00:44:00,539 --> 00:44:04,229
gone, these lawsuits, that if
one of these big publishers, or

752
00:44:04,229 --> 00:44:07,079
usually a multinational
corporation published that book

753
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:10,949
about Office romance, and they
had a sexual harassment suit

754
00:44:11,369 --> 00:44:15,119
thrown out. The it would be
evidence against them.

755
00:44:16,110 --> 00:44:18,600
Yeah, I think there's something
to that. Absolutely.

756
00:44:19,830 --> 00:44:23,760
So in other words, because of
the way the courts work in this

757
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:30,090
country, it's actually in in in
it's kind of impacting is the

758
00:44:30,090 --> 00:44:32,610
word I'm looking for freedom of
speech.

759
00:44:34,050 --> 00:44:35,940
It is literally

760
00:44:38,070 --> 00:44:40,800
in fact, I think of if somebody
would bring up you know, saying

761
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,810
you go up to see you got
somebody in the office and you'd

762
00:44:42,810 --> 00:44:46,470
go in and you can't say you
can't compliment them on their

763
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:49,590
appearance or anything according
to most of these. And they have

764
00:44:49,590 --> 00:44:52,590
all kinds of documentation in
this course as a shortcut. Why?

765
00:44:52,590 --> 00:44:56,100
Because some guy said hi, hi,
honey, or got a beautiful dress

766
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:57,570
today. What boom was in court
the

767
00:44:57,570 --> 00:45:02,820
next day, I am so going to get
mo dude If so you see me around

768
00:45:02,820 --> 00:45:04,260
the office. I'm horrible.

769
00:45:05,010 --> 00:45:08,100
You should take the course I
anyway, by law, I have to take

770
00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:11,580
the course. Well, I don't know
why you haven't. But anyway, the

771
00:45:11,580 --> 00:45:17,160
point is, is that, that, where
does freedom of speech begin and

772
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,130
end? And where does sexual
harassment begin? And it seems

773
00:45:20,130 --> 00:45:22,050
to me that's free. It's a
freedom of speech issue. If I

774
00:45:22,050 --> 00:45:26,700
want to say, Hi, honey, that's a
great dress you've got on I

775
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:29,430
think I am under the
Constitution have that right.

776
00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:32,190
And I shouldn't be and I
shouldn't, under any

777
00:45:32,190 --> 00:45:35,160
circumstances be sued for sexual
harassment? No, no, that's not

778
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:35,460
only

779
00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:38,700
do I think you have that, right.
I think you are obliged to say

780
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:42,030
Hi, honey to me, every single
time you see me, that is

781
00:45:42,060 --> 00:45:43,230
absolutely true.

782
00:45:43,650 --> 00:45:48,450
In a dream on. So it's not gonna
happen. But anyway, the point

783
00:45:48,450 --> 00:45:52,050
is, is that the fact that this
book wasn't published, but set

784
00:45:52,050 --> 00:45:54,270
by a very small independent
publisher doesn't have anything

785
00:45:54,270 --> 00:45:58,440
to worry about because they have
less than 100 employees. Is a

786
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,010
pathetic indictment of the
system. Anyway, that's what I

787
00:46:02,010 --> 00:46:03,210
think. Yeah, that's

788
00:46:03,210 --> 00:46:07,680
a really good point. But who's,
no one's gonna go to the mat for

789
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,990
that, though. No one wants to go
through the hassle.

790
00:46:10,020 --> 00:46:12,240
Yeah, you know what, that's what
it is. It's a hassle. Nobody

791
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:15,390
cares if everyone's a short time
or screw it. You know,

792
00:46:15,390 --> 00:46:17,460
somebody's wearing a nice dress
too bad.

793
00:46:20,190 --> 00:46:22,650
I can't help myself. If
someone's wearing a nice dress,

794
00:46:22,650 --> 00:46:25,350
I gotta say nice dress. I just
can't help myself.

795
00:46:25,740 --> 00:46:30,390
And well, I'd stay in London if
I were you. So the other thing I

796
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:32,790
wanted to say is that, you know,
one of the movies that was

797
00:46:32,820 --> 00:46:35,250
wanted people to see and we
could talk about at some point,

798
00:46:35,250 --> 00:46:37,830
because we were talking about
comics, and it was the movie

799
00:46:37,830 --> 00:46:44,160
Best of Show, which is a
hilarious movie, but it has a

800
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,670
guy in it named Fred Willard.
And Fred Willard, who's who's

801
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:52,020
done some of the finest invented
was invented comedy. I don't

802
00:46:52,020 --> 00:46:54,660
know how old this guy is, but he
must be 90 because even though

803
00:46:54,660 --> 00:46:57,090
it doesn't look that old,
because it when I was in high

804
00:46:57,090 --> 00:47:02,070
school, which was a while ago, I
saw this guy when he was a comic

805
00:47:02,070 --> 00:47:06,810
team called Willard and Greco.
And I saw him at the hungry eye

806
00:47:06,810 --> 00:47:11,160
in San Francisco and he was
hilarious then, and since then,

807
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,360
and he was also the guy was the
sidekick on Fernwood tonight

808
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,350
with Martin Mull. And one of his
you know, his his type of humour

809
00:47:19,380 --> 00:47:23,070
is epitomised by this particular
joke, which I'll, I'll try to

810
00:47:23,070 --> 00:47:25,530
explain which is, the two of
them are sitting there. So,

811
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:32,340
Fernwood tonight was a fake talk
show. That was mocking you know,

812
00:47:32,340 --> 00:47:35,610
the talk show genre. And Martin
Martin mole was like the Johnny

813
00:47:35,610 --> 00:47:39,930
Carson and Wheeler was the was
the sidekick. And it'd be the

814
00:47:39,930 --> 00:47:41,970
getting into some discussion and
out of the blue Wheeler, which

815
00:47:41,970 --> 00:47:45,570
out of the blue make these
strange comments. Which, by the

816
00:47:45,570 --> 00:47:50,100
way, is what I have Sebastian
Ripley on cranky geeks fashioned

817
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:52,440
after he made the strange
comments, he said, You know, I

818
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,070
don't know why they've got these
ramps on what they put these

819
00:47:56,070 --> 00:48:00,330
ramps on all the sidewalks, just
so skateboarders can go zooming

820
00:48:00,330 --> 00:48:03,000
up and down almost knocking you
over. It's ridiculous that they

821
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,210
do something like this. And then
Martin Mulgoa says, That's not

822
00:48:06,210 --> 00:48:11,580
for Jesus, that's those ramps
are for the handicapped. And

823
00:48:11,580 --> 00:48:15,630
without missing a beat, Fred
Willard says, That's bull. I've

824
00:48:15,630 --> 00:48:17,880
never seen a handicapped guy on
a skateboard.

825
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:28,350
I had a Martin mole running
once. And it was at the Cable

826
00:48:28,350 --> 00:48:31,710
Ace awards, and I was presenting
and this is a very industry

827
00:48:31,710 --> 00:48:36,030
heavy event and had to go
because MTV was trying to break

828
00:48:36,030 --> 00:48:39,060
through the new cable markets.
And basically, it's a it's a big

829
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:42,690
jerk off session for these. At
the time, you know, there were

830
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:45,450
hundreds of cable operators in
the US, of course, and all

831
00:48:45,450 --> 00:48:48,870
bought by, you know, Time Warner
or Comcast or whatever. And they

832
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:52,530
all kind of felt and acted like
they were NBC. So it was a big

833
00:48:52,530 --> 00:48:55,860
deal. You know, and so all these
tables were filled with these

834
00:48:55,860 --> 00:48:58,920
basically, ditch diggers, what
we call them, you know, with

835
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,780
respect but you know, ditch
digger because that's what they

836
00:49:00,780 --> 00:49:03,330
did, they dug a ditch and they
ran some cable to your house and

837
00:49:03,330 --> 00:49:05,820
they had no fucking service and
it sucked and you couldn't reach

838
00:49:05,820 --> 00:49:09,690
anyone and never worked but they
acted like they were you know,

839
00:49:11,010 --> 00:49:13,800
stuff it real hot stuff and they
had you know, there some of them

840
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,440
had their second wives there and
they were all dressed up so

841
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,080
Cable Ace awards anyway, I was
there with Patricia and we're

842
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:26,130
backstage and Martin mall is the
MC any any I can't I forget if

843
00:49:26,130 --> 00:49:29,820
we were on like a Deus or I
think we're on a Deus for some

844
00:49:29,850 --> 00:49:33,390
I'm not quite sure what the fuck
it was. But he announces me is

845
00:49:33,390 --> 00:49:36,390
like, you know, and here's this
guy from MTV. Boy, you'd hate to

846
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:39,150
have your daughter come home
with them. You know, here's Adam

847
00:49:39,150 --> 00:49:44,280
curry. And Patricia. She pulled
them aside and said, fucker you

848
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:52,530
grandpa you totally came up to
defend my honour. And from then

849
00:49:52,530 --> 00:49:55,320
from that day on whenever we see
him on TV, we turn them off so

850
00:49:55,350 --> 00:50:00,270
now that Dick Yeah, fuck him. We
don't like him. Show you Dude,

851
00:50:01,110 --> 00:50:05,580
he had a funny career. I
remember first hearing him when

852
00:50:05,580 --> 00:50:09,810
he was doing he was doing a
bunch of song parodies and

853
00:50:09,810 --> 00:50:13,890
inventions, humorous song
inventions that were extremely

854
00:50:13,890 --> 00:50:16,590
popular for a very short period.
And then he stopped doing that.

855
00:50:16,590 --> 00:50:20,880
And then he became an actor. And
I don't know he's it's just a

856
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,190
strange career. But he went
through this one little phase

857
00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:25,890
where he had this fake talk show
and then I don't know what's

858
00:50:25,890 --> 00:50:26,460
ever come up.

859
00:50:26,909 --> 00:50:29,159
It kind of comes off as like,
he's a comedian, but he's not

860
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:32,489
really funny. He's an actor, but
he's not really talented. You

861
00:50:32,489 --> 00:50:35,309
know? He's just kind of there.
He's recognisable. He's that's

862
00:50:35,309 --> 00:50:36,599
it. He's recognisable.

863
00:50:37,860 --> 00:50:41,430
You Yeah, well, there's been a
lot of that in Hollywood. So

864
00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:45,510
anyway, so that was the best is
show has Willard playing another

865
00:50:45,540 --> 00:50:50,460
perfect role for him. And I
recommend seeing it. If anyone

866
00:50:50,460 --> 00:50:53,580
hasn't seen that movie. It's
quite funny. It's about it's

867
00:50:53,580 --> 00:51:00,270
about dog shows. So what is the
what is the the opposite of Rush

868
00:51:00,270 --> 00:51:05,970
Limbaugh? Can we be that?
There's no real art, you know,

869
00:51:05,970 --> 00:51:08,130
that that people keep thinking.
I mean, I think the opposite of

870
00:51:08,130 --> 00:51:11,700
Rush Limbaugh is actually Jon
Stewart. But nobody really has

871
00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:15,750
been able to go on the left in
terms of the liberal side and do

872
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:19,020
that kind of material. Because
there's an and it's it. And a

873
00:51:19,020 --> 00:51:22,530
lot of people believe it's
because itself, the liberal

874
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,340
people have, like they're the
Chinese people, the liberal

875
00:51:26,340 --> 00:51:30,420
people, people from the liberal
Republic,

876
00:51:31,380 --> 00:51:35,340
the liberal people, they have
painted themselves into a corner

877
00:51:35,340 --> 00:51:39,000
because they can't be offensive,
and they can't insult anyone and

878
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,500
they can't do this. And they
can't do that, you know, they

879
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:42,000
all have to be politically
correctly.

880
00:51:42,030 --> 00:51:45,360
You can't say nice dress, honey,
you know, like we do in Texas,

881
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:48,420
you can't do that you can't be
funny, because then you're then

882
00:51:48,420 --> 00:51:51,060
you're hurting someone's
feelings, you know, that kind of

883
00:51:51,060 --> 00:51:54,240
thing. So you end up with a
namby pamby kind of thing unless

884
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:57,480
you have someone who's a pure
satirist, like Jon Stewart, who

885
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,970
doesn't mind doing that stuff,
but he's not seen as the

886
00:51:59,970 --> 00:52:03,270
opposite. The closest that
anyone comes is actually another

887
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:07,620
right wing guy, but he, but he,
you know, portrays himself as

888
00:52:07,620 --> 00:52:11,100
Oh, he's actually he takes a
kind of a weird position, which

889
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:16,170
is this guy, Michael Savage.
Who's much more entertaining

890
00:52:16,170 --> 00:52:20,220
than than anybody. And he's in
San Francisco Bay Area, and he

891
00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:24,900
just complains about everything.
And he doesn't like Bush. And he

892
00:52:24,930 --> 00:52:27,720
sees Limbaugh and he's the one
that promotes the idea. Limbaugh

893
00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:29,910
is just a mouthpiece. And

894
00:52:30,540 --> 00:52:33,000
well, the only reason I the only
reason I ask is he has no

895
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,150
opposite. Right? But can we get
the could we get that kind of

896
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:40,590
audience because I quite
honestly, I want the jet and the

897
00:52:40,590 --> 00:52:41,340
drug habit.

898
00:52:44,190 --> 00:52:47,340
I can go over the jet, the drug
habit I can do without because

899
00:52:47,340 --> 00:52:50,460
that drug habits actually made
him deaf. Because a lot of

900
00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:55,800
people don't realise us that way
be as deaf, the but oxycontin

901
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:00,150
when used to in an addictive
fashion where you're just using

902
00:53:00,150 --> 00:53:03,000
way too much of it actually
makes you deaf. And it's one of

903
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:03,450
the side

904
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,070
effects it said on the side on
the box. Over years will make

905
00:53:08,070 --> 00:53:12,300
you go deaf may decrease hearing
abilities and can induce nausea,

906
00:53:12,810 --> 00:53:16,800
he would have had to have set it
on the baggie. So if you've

907
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,560
had a hard on and are going deaf
for more than four hours can

908
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,050
talk, please contact your
physician immediately.

909
00:53:22,650 --> 00:53:24,600
So anyway, so he had to have
these implants and all these

910
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,180
other things because he lost his
he went deaf. And in fact, I

911
00:53:27,180 --> 00:53:30,810
remember that period where he
first went deaf and he didn't

912
00:53:30,810 --> 00:53:34,860
have the hearing aids. And I was
less I turned him on one because

913
00:53:34,860 --> 00:53:40,200
I listened to right wing talk,
you know, I admit it. And guys,

914
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,180
because you get a lot of
information from these guys to

915
00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:45,780
be honest about it. Anyway, so I
was listening. I said, Who's

916
00:53:45,780 --> 00:53:49,650
this guy? And I said, this isn't
Rush Limbaugh, this is somebody

917
00:53:49,650 --> 00:53:51,750
else because he couldn't hear
himself because he he's a

918
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:56,880
professional, you know, he was a
DJ, like you. And he and he, he

919
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,000
liked liked. He was a he loved
his own voice. But he had to

920
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,670
modulate it with the microphone.
So you'd be up to microphone and

921
00:54:02,670 --> 00:54:05,700
you'd be talking like this, you
know, like, Hey, baby, how you

922
00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:09,510
modulate people out there should
know that if you're on the radio

923
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:11,340
and you have a pair of
headphones on you can really

924
00:54:11,340 --> 00:54:14,190
control your voice a lot more
because you're hearing yourself

925
00:54:14,220 --> 00:54:16,050
exactly. And you can talk a
little bit of the

926
00:54:16,050 --> 00:54:18,990
more like this. Maybe send naked
pictures.

927
00:54:19,470 --> 00:54:23,250
Anyway, so So I couldn't hear
him so so he couldn't do his own

928
00:54:23,250 --> 00:54:25,590
voice. I thought it was weird.
It was weird. I didn't think it

929
00:54:25,590 --> 00:54:28,380
was him. I thought it was some
phoney and then I found out

930
00:54:28,380 --> 00:54:30,060
about all this other stuff. And
then he got the implants. Now he

931
00:54:30,060 --> 00:54:34,530
sounds exactly like it used to.
But it's funny if you can't hear

932
00:54:34,530 --> 00:54:37,080
yourself and just like people
who are I know a lot of people

933
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,740
that went to way too many. When
I was a kid I worked in

934
00:54:40,740 --> 00:54:44,010
factories and I learned about
ear protection. So I always when

935
00:54:44,010 --> 00:54:46,890
I went to rock concerts I always
had ear protection and I still

936
00:54:46,890 --> 00:54:49,560
wear it and but there's a lot of
people that went to a lot of

937
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,310
heavy metal concerts. They never
worked your protection team.

938
00:54:53,550 --> 00:54:56,970
They're all deaf. And when when
you talk to them, they scream at

939
00:54:56,970 --> 00:54:58,710
you because they can't hear
themselves.

940
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:06,060
Did you leave the lights on?
I've always always worn ear

941
00:55:06,060 --> 00:55:08,340
protectors. In fact, you know
all the roadies at all these

942
00:55:08,340 --> 00:55:11,370
concerts. Every single person at
the show was wearing ear

943
00:55:11,370 --> 00:55:15,300
protection, ear protection. It's
a insurance requirement these

944
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:15,750
days.

945
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:20,070
Yeah, nowadays, but back in the
day, you know, in the in the 70s

946
00:55:20,070 --> 00:55:24,360
and 80s. It wasn't as, as people
were, weren't paying attention.

947
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,790
I don't know. They never, you
know, it didn't help. And I

948
00:55:26,790 --> 00:55:29,700
think this is lost on the
public. It did help when you're

949
00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:33,030
a kid where you could actually
get jobs in factories during the

950
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:36,480
summer. Nowadays, you go around
and you see kids hanging out in

951
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,630
the streets. And so once you
guys get a job, get a job where

952
00:55:39,630 --> 00:55:45,480
they tell you Yeah, I get a job
dude, but like where, but back

953
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,660
in the day you could get work
when you're a kid and you learn

954
00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:51,210
a lot because you were on these
jobs, you know, to learn and

955
00:55:51,210 --> 00:55:54,210
stuff like wearing your
protector taking taking salt

956
00:55:54,210 --> 00:55:55,740
tablets and things like that.

957
00:55:57,390 --> 00:56:02,760
Okay, this just ain't on the
wires. For some reason, the it's

958
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,510
from Clarksburg, West Virginia.
I actually happen to know where

959
00:56:06,510 --> 00:56:10,410
that is, and I've been to
Clarksburg, West Virginia. The

960
00:56:10,410 --> 00:56:14,040
FBI is embarking on a $1 billion
effort to build the world's

961
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,470
largest computer database of
people's physical

962
00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:20,340
characteristics. A project that
would give the government

963
00:56:20,340 --> 00:56:23,190
unprecedented abilities to
identify individuals in the

964
00:56:23,190 --> 00:56:25,680
United States and abroad,
digital images of faces,

965
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:31,230
fingerprints, palm patterns, and
iris scans. There you go. The

966
00:56:31,230 --> 00:56:33,600
FBI will also retain upon
request by employers

967
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,670
fingerprints of employees. Now
this is great. This is just

968
00:56:38,670 --> 00:56:39,150
awesome.

969
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:41,430
Another half hour

970
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,360
related, it's related. Look, the
Department of Homeland Security

971
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,910
has been using iris scans at
some airports to verify the

972
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:51,000
identity of travellers who have
passed background checks. Who

973
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,780
wants to move to the lines
quickly. It's all related, dude.

974
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:57,900
It's happening. They're rolling
it out. They're totally rolling

975
00:56:57,900 --> 00:57:00,720
on this shit out. This is great.
I'll put this link in the show

976
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:03,510
notes. It's like a whole story
on the Washington Post. Why

977
00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:05,280
clarksburg is that where the FBI
is,

978
00:57:05,729 --> 00:57:07,649
I don't know. It's probably
where they can get cheap land.

979
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,489
No idea. No, that's not where
the FBI is. Well, there's some

980
00:57:14,489 --> 00:57:16,229
good football teams in West
Virginia.

981
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:21,030
Well, yes, the Mountaineers
mountaineers, although they

982
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:24,450
lost? Yeah, they would but
didn't they lose out on the

983
00:57:24,450 --> 00:57:26,190
championships? I don't really
follow it but

984
00:57:26,580 --> 00:57:29,910
ya know, they can't get in. So I
got a couple of West Virginia

985
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:34,110
hoodies that now I can't use as
a as a as a one upsmanship

986
00:57:34,110 --> 00:57:34,500
thing.

987
00:57:35,370 --> 00:57:38,520
I've always thought they had the
crummiest logo, that green and

988
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:43,800
yellow kind of like, really
jagged. W WVU, whatever it is.

989
00:57:44,370 --> 00:57:46,740
Now they don't they have the
flying dubby it's actually

990
00:57:46,740 --> 00:57:51,030
gorgeous. Check it out. I know
it and it's yellow on blue. It's

991
00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:54,180
perfect colours. I mean, it's a
really good looking logo. Okay.

992
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,630
Maybe there's an old logo you're
thinking about the but the

993
00:57:57,630 --> 00:58:00,750
flying w which is called the
Flying who is actually a W and F

994
00:58:00,750 --> 00:58:04,650
sheshe. Shove together is it
looks I think is a very good

995
00:58:04,650 --> 00:58:07,440
looking logo. But you know, now
they lost their coach, and they

996
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,470
probably you know, they're not
all over the best. The best team

997
00:58:10,530 --> 00:58:12,720
this year, was Appalachian
State. There's no doubt about it

998
00:58:12,810 --> 00:58:18,090
again. You've lost me. Yeah, I
know. But the two other football

999
00:58:18,090 --> 00:58:21,090
fans in the audience are going
to borax. Right.

1000
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,870
So what are you doing for
Christmas? You celebrate up to

1001
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:27,090
Washington going up to
Washington. Now you're gonna go

1002
00:58:27,090 --> 00:58:27,810
see the family.

1003
00:58:28,830 --> 00:58:30,840
Yeah, everyone's up there
because we got to Delray up

1004
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,230
there. And so like my wife from
the, you know, comes down half

1005
00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:36,570
the time I grew up there half
the time, but she's got to be

1006
00:58:36,570 --> 00:58:39,210
near the deli more than I do. So
I'm down here mostly.

1007
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:42,180
So you're really alone or most
of the time?

1008
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,570
Well, except when the girls are
here.

1009
00:58:45,870 --> 00:58:49,800
Well, yeah, but they only come
down on like the week. Now you

1010
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,420
are in Gitmo, my friend talking

1011
00:58:51,420 --> 00:58:53,250
about the other girls. Oh.

1012
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,230
And on that note, I think we
should we've done another hour

1013
00:58:58,230 --> 00:59:01,950
show in the future. Should we
try and do this daily? Do you

1014
00:59:01,950 --> 00:59:03,990
think do you think people would
show up for it?

1015
00:59:04,410 --> 00:59:07,440
I think if we get a critical
mass of weekly listeners, we

1016
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,500
should because then that I mean,
the only the only money in this

1017
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:13,290
is doing it daily, let's face
it. But you know, I think we're

1018
00:59:13,290 --> 00:59:15,960
gonna run out of material
because we're, although I don't

1019
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,420
think we're the boringness guys
in the world. You know, at some

1020
00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:20,640
point, although the news usually
provides us with more than

1021
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,050
enough information, yeah, but

1022
00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:24,090
but that's that's kind of the
problem. I don't want it to

1023
00:59:24,090 --> 00:59:27,120
become, you know, one of the in
that there's so many shows about

1024
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,670
news, you know, which really
just makes you a part of the

1025
00:59:29,850 --> 00:59:32,760
Yeah, we should be talking more
about society, you know, as

1026
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,160
opposed to talking about like
what we didn't talk about this

1027
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,300
week, which is the implications
of Jamie Lynn Spears is

1028
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:40,050
pregnancy.

1029
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,860
Yeah, now that now there's,
there's a topic. I can't believe

1030
00:59:43,860 --> 00:59:45,180
we overlooked that one.

1031
00:59:45,690 --> 00:59:49,680
Well, I can but you know,
there's it's an interesting

1032
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,280
topic to me because it's, I get
the sense that she got pregnant

1033
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,740
on purpose to get attention. You
think

1034
00:59:56,610 --> 00:59:59,820
it's, you know, it's really sad
when you see people caught up in

1035
00:59:59,820 --> 01:00:02,700
this do business machine like
that? Because that's really what

1036
01:00:02,700 --> 01:00:10,170
that is. They just have no idea
apparently and no one gives a

1037
01:00:10,170 --> 01:00:12,930
shit like Amy Winehouse you know
everyone's just waiting for her

1038
01:00:12,930 --> 01:00:15,600
to fuck up again or die you know
she has been arrested even

1039
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,930
notice who that is over here Did
no one knows who Amy Winehouse

1040
01:00:18,930 --> 01:00:20,670
is you kidding me? Well, I

1041
01:00:20,670 --> 01:00:23,310
don't know who she is now. Now
she's she's been nominated for

1042
01:00:23,310 --> 01:00:25,980
six Grammy Awards. Someone knows
who she is, John.

1043
01:00:26,070 --> 01:00:30,870
Oh, that woman? Yeah, that Yeah.
So hey, this is interesting. I

1044
01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:34,230
just want to put so I have the
Google News page up because I

1045
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:36,120
figure if we ran out of material
get always jump on when he

1046
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,950
starts and the thing just
refreshed on its own, and it and

1047
01:00:40,950 --> 01:00:45,690
it swapped out all the photos.
So they've changed this code in

1048
01:00:45,690 --> 01:00:48,390
this thing. I think I don't
think he used to do that. I used

1049
01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:51,930
to get being and the next thing
you know, it's all the whole

1050
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:52,560
page. What's

1051
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:53,790
What's your top news item?

1052
01:00:55,830 --> 01:00:59,220
What? Well, you had the one from
the mine is the FBI plans. $1

1053
01:00:59,220 --> 01:01:00,420
billion database.

1054
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,150
Right. I just wanted to prepare
under that. No troops search for

1055
01:01:03,150 --> 01:01:06,060
Afghanistan. Yeah. Okay. So it
is the same?

1056
01:01:07,290 --> 01:01:10,980
Pretty much. And then the next
CIA subpoena thing is

1057
01:01:10,980 --> 01:01:14,010
interesting. And rest of it, you
know, just

1058
01:01:14,970 --> 01:01:20,100
Yeah, but it's more it's just
more commenting on the fucking

1059
01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:20,700
news.

1060
01:01:21,660 --> 01:01:23,250
Yeah, no, I'm not saying we
should.

1061
01:01:25,500 --> 01:01:30,360
Okay, I forgot to tell you. I
got the Yorkshire tea that I

1062
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,480
brought home from the office
that they sent me. The one that

1063
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,150
you got for free. Yeah, that was
a Paul Parkinson actually

1064
01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:40,560
arranged that. He's, he has a
show here in the in the UK. And

1065
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,830
he didn't get any free. Oh, you
didn't get anything free. But so

1066
01:01:43,830 --> 01:01:45,750
I tried it out. And I'm like,
and I have to tell you, I don't

1067
01:01:45,750 --> 01:01:50,940
think my palate is sophisticated
enough to really tell the

1068
01:01:50,940 --> 01:01:55,650
difference. In fact, Patricia,
she shunned it immediately said

1069
01:01:55,650 --> 01:01:58,440
Oh, no, I don't like I'd like to
PG Tips much better. And then I

1070
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,310
tried. I did one of the like,
decaf test. You remember the old

1071
01:02:02,310 --> 01:02:06,510
commercials? Hmm. She didn't
even notice it was decaf. And so

1072
01:02:06,510 --> 01:02:08,910
I made it. I made her a
Yorkshire tea. And she nailed

1073
01:02:08,910 --> 01:02:12,420
it. And she said, which one is
this is the regular tea and I

1074
01:02:12,420 --> 01:02:17,730
said, Yeah. Like trying not to
really fib. So she thought it

1075
01:02:17,730 --> 01:02:20,190
was PG Tips. Oh, yeah, I can
taste it. This is PG Tips. But

1076
01:02:20,190 --> 01:02:21,750
it wasn't it was the Yorkshire
tea. Oh,

1077
01:02:21,780 --> 01:02:23,550
you doctor. Yeah.

1078
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,340
I haven't actually said anything
to her about that. But she's

1079
01:02:26,340 --> 01:02:26,760
gonna know

1080
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,890
now she's gonna have you're
gonna get some you're gonna get

1081
01:02:28,890 --> 01:02:32,070
the you know, instead of the T
bone steak. It's gonna be liver.

1082
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:35,460
How do you actually believe that
my wife listens to this shit?

1083
01:02:36,300 --> 01:02:38,220
Well, you're probably right.
It's like my wife doesn't listen

1084
01:02:38,220 --> 01:02:41,580
to anything. I just you read any
of your articles. No, never. No

1085
01:02:41,580 --> 01:02:43,740
never does. And have you written
books? You've written books,

1086
01:02:43,740 --> 01:02:44,190
haven't you?

1087
01:02:44,490 --> 01:02:46,920
Yeah, but usually she has do it.
She has something to do with the

1088
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,400
editing. So it's like she moves
on that way. All right. But

1089
01:02:50,790 --> 01:02:53,280
well, you know, I think you
should check your wife out with

1090
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,700
the thing with a T called
lifeboat lifeboat tea. Okay.

1091
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,150
Yeah, that's an actually a
pretty nice tea. Like lifeboat

1092
01:03:00,150 --> 01:03:03,000
and of course Sainsbury's Read
labels of favourite amongst the

1093
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,110
cheapskates in England.

1094
01:03:04,140 --> 01:03:07,200
Yeah, you mentioned that but we
don't we've we've had that

1095
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,270
before. But still think PG is
better than that.

1096
01:03:09,300 --> 01:03:11,580
I don't like Sainsbury's red
label so much either. I think

1097
01:03:11,580 --> 01:03:12,420
it's bland.

1098
01:03:12,930 --> 01:03:16,380
There are people in America
going with that? Fuck. No.

1099
01:03:16,740 --> 01:03:20,520
Americans are drinking more,
more and more tea. And the

1100
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:20,880
drinking

1101
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,100
like flavoured tea. Have you
seen the selection at the

1102
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:25,890
office? If you just want a
regular tea bag you can find

1103
01:03:25,890 --> 01:03:26,550
hardly find it

1104
01:03:26,550 --> 01:03:29,550
anymore. It's all raspberry.
Have a box of PG Tips in there

1105
01:03:29,550 --> 01:03:30,450
now. Really?

1106
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,520
Oh, thank you. I'm sure you took
care of that.

1107
01:03:32,910 --> 01:03:35,760
No, I don't know who did. But
somebody did. Nice to get

1108
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:43,500
somebody to loot maybe some
shit. All right. Uh huh. All

1109
01:03:43,500 --> 01:03:43,860
right.

1110
01:03:45,810 --> 01:03:47,040
That's it. You got anything
else?

1111
01:03:47,580 --> 01:03:48,540
No, I think we're through.

1112
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,810
I think we're done as well.
Coming to you from the curry

1113
01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:55,440
manor in Guilford in the United
Kingdom. I'm Adam curry.

1114
01:03:55,950 --> 01:03:58,410
And I'm John C. Dvorak up here
in northern California. And

1115
01:03:58,410 --> 01:03:59,280
we'll talk to you again

1116
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,080
next week on no agenda.

1117
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,150
The best and the brightest
served up daily by the sharpest

1118
01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:09,300
minds in content delivery,
Pancho and limelights.