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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Yeah, it's Cinco de Zepto. It's

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time once again from the left
hand shoulder of Gitmo nation.

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This is no agenda. Hey,
everybody coming to you from the

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somewhat covert location in San
Francisco, California. I'm Adam

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curry.

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And from a very warm northern
Silicon Valley, the place it

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doesn't exist but does heat up.
I'm John C. Dvorak.

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I don't have my fader box with
me, so I had to do with the

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mouse. Oh, a mouse. Sorry. No,
with the trackpad even worse.

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There's nothing worse than
trying to hit a fader with a

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trackpad. It just doesn't work.

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Where's the fader?

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It's on the software. No, I

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mean, where's the little you
have hardware to do this? Where

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were you

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brought the wrong box? Can you
believe it? I have to. Yeah,

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that's stupid. You know,

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the way I when I travel, I use a
checklist.

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Unlike when you prepare for this
show, you mean Yeah.

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No, it's because I got sick and
tired. I traveled enough. I got

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sick and tired of like, showing
up someplace and realize I

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didn't even wasn't even wearing
a belt.

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What's what's on your checklist?
Is it literally down to how many

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socks and and you

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know, I don't have the amounts
but the checklist has all kinds

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of stuff on it. And it's like,

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it's your man. Let's see it.
Let's hear your checklist.

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I'm gonna let me go get it. Hang
on a second.

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I used to do these.

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You're a pilot. I think Dad
would think that you just do

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them.

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Now, man, I'm an airman not a
pilot. There's a big difference,

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man. We don't. We don't mess
around. Dude.

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airmen usually don't use a
checklist.

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No, and an airman has the
checklist in his head.

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Oh, brother. I guess I know. I
know why your wife won't fly

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with you.

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Okay, travel. This is my
ultimate ultimate travel check.

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It was very long. I

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mean, I'll read part one just do
some highlights.

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Flight boarding pass for
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confirmation number hotels,
confirmation number car rental

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map, a very address of hotel
itinerary contact names and

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phone numbers, business cards,
and acids. Appointment schedule.

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And as no anti diarrheal calls.
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usually carry some acids usually
in my pocket. Because when on

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takeoff, usually on landing
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pressure. I did choose to get
heartburn on landing. So I don't

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know that's very typical, by the
way. Yes. So I have so I had to

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put on the checklist because
I'll be like, oh geez, I don't

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have any. Oh my Oh, my stomach's
killing me. Okay, underwear,

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socks, t shirt for sleeping.
Extra shirt suit, comb. lectric.

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toothbrush, toothpaste, floss
razor women,

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as opposed to the analog
toothbrush.

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Good point. Razor blades, black
tie, always you have to get your

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act. You

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gotta have your black tie. You
got to have if you're a woman,

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you got to you got to have your
little black fuck me dress. And

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if you're a guy, you gotta have
black tie. It's standard issue.

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And I'm talking about a long
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these by the way, almost
everywhere. But a black tie. In

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other words, a regular

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tie, like the one I was wearing
last night, John. Yeah,

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that's black goes with
everything. And you should

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always show if you forget
anything that like if you want

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to bring a special tie that look
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should the checklist fail than
the checklist actually has a

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backup built into it as what
you're saying.

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Right. Logical goes on and on.
adapters.

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So you know me I have a huge bag
that I schlep around with me,

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right? Yeah, that's where I only
have a checklist. I have the

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bag. I just know if I grab the
bag and never write you never

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unpacked the bag. No, of course
not. Because everything I need

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is in its a MacGyver bag. If
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how come you forgot your fader
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I brought my electric
toothbrush.

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That's not the that's not the
answer to the question.

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That was a on fortuitous

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happens. Yeah. Well, I'm just
saying if you had a checklist

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that went on and on, by the way,
here's some other cool stuff.

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And there's like cold weather it
spikes for ice. Shoes, what? You

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know these things you wrap on
your shoes and you walk you

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go run. Like you take those on,
on your checklist.

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It's on the checklist for cold
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subcategory.

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A special sub category.

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Yeah, well, you all forget him.
gaffers tape is on the

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checklist.

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Because in case you break your
arm, or you know because gaffer

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tape can fix anything,

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gaffers tape is very handy and
it's really useful.

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It's the cat's meow.

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And what I do with the gaffers
tape is I actually take a number

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of strips and put it on the
suitcase itself.

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Oh, you're one of those people.
Yeah. Oh that I don't like

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what's wrong with that. It looks
lame.

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You can't tell it's a black
suitcase. You won't even know

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the gaffers tape is on there.

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The what he put it on,

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because I don't want to have a
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the suitcase. I'd packed very
lightweight homeless

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again, you put the you wrap it
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No, no, it's across the back of
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just a big piece of a couple
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you don't take a roll? No, God,
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I think I have a roll of gaffer
tape with me. In who had that

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bag with me, someone said Ah,
shit, man, the wireless mic

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crapped out, Oh, no problem, I
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Anyway, then then another
subcategories processes. So I

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did this. By the way, this
checklist is mostly just check,

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check, check. It doesn't take it
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out of my day to go through the
list. But I always wonder as

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well Oh, geez. I forgot that.
One of the then on the processes

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is stuff like set the lights,
feed the dog water, the plants

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throw out the garbage,

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you have a process list. So
stuff you have to do before you

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leave. Yeah.

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And then one of the things
there's a couple things one,

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actually visibly look to make
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on me because I still valid. I
know, I know. Well, I went to

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the airport once and there was
no driver's license. It was a

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disaster.

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You can't ID yourself and you
can't go anywhere.

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Yeah, heaven forbid, in this
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I bought some, some medication
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And they and I had to show my ID
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I had to sign a waiver and agree
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of it. Because I guess the
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this decongestant stuff is what
they use for crystal meth. Yeah.

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And it was like, whoa.

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Anyway, and I just, you know,
just check the stove, stuff like

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that. But anyway, it was not a
bad thing to had to do. Because

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occasionally, you know, there's
nothing worse than walking out

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of the house driving down the
street and saying, Did I cook in

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this morning?

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The stove, on the stove

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on simmer, you know, that kind
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Wi Fi. I gotta do that.

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I think you should publish this
list. I think that's very handy

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for people who want a baseline
who wants to travel in style,

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like the International Man of
Mystery, John C. Dvorak.

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Yeah, I could,

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I think it'd be good idea.

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There's very little, there's a
couple things that are

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individual to me, but for the
most part, I could just publish

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this thing.

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So dude, a lot of wacky stuff
going on. I've done very little.

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So a couple things. Some
programming notes. We're not

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streaming this live the hotel? I
don't know, something's messed

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up. But we had to get the show
going. So should we just stream

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it live? stream it after the
fact?

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Yeah, why don't you do that?
Okay. I'll do that. I guess

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people that like to listen to it
early before it gets onto the

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network. They can listen to it.

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It'll be very close. Because you
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really crazy this the hotel. And
it really depends on what time

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of course you're on the network,
because you know, it gets

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overloaded, I guess at peak
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speed sometimes is like, like 10
megabit upload speed. All of a

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sudden I was I published the
show the other day, it was up in

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30 seconds. I've never ever
witnessed that. That was cool.

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Wow. Imagine how much time and
energy and how much the economy

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would actually improve just by
the time savings of more

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bandwidth for everybody. Yeah, I
mean, you're I agree.

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Yeah, cuz you sit.

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You wait for everything all day
long. And we're such slaves to

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the waiting.

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I know it should be a top
priority of Obama. I think it

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is. So I'm watching the some
news show. And they're showing

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Obama giving a speech. He went I
didn't hear the speech. But it

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just showed him. I've never seen
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the president. But he's standing
behind a podium bunch of flags

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behind him. The opposed the
podium does not have the

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Presidential seal. And I'm
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an old clip or not. It doesn't
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propodeum has got a sign in
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logo, and then keeping America
competitive written on it. And

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then www Barack obama.com. So as
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decided to just do his own thing
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I keep getting emails from
Barack obama.com. And because I

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you know, I signed up,
obviously, I signed up for a lot

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of candidates, and you signed up
to the to the list, you really

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should sign up, because it's
amazing what you get, you know,

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and there's always organizing
something. They're always

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looking for more donations. I'm
not quite sure how that works.

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Can the President continue to
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president,

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I guess, for his reelection
campaign, he can. Why not?

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And it's not even. It's not even
clear that it's for his

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reelection. And campaign, it's
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well, maybe it's just to keep
the staffers going to maybe keep

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Barack obama.com up and running.
I just find it peculiar.

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What was the what was like, what
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did now that he's doing it,
everybody after him is going to

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do this. There's two things.
There's two things out there

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every present, you know, every
new guy comes along, like Reagan

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came along, and he did certain
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depressed at bay and did certain
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now wants to do that. I mean,
Bush is the only one probably

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never really instituted anything
original. But anyway, so he

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comes out. So Brock comes on, he
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constantly. He's always on the
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to Barack obama.com with his own
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seal. And I mean, it just like,
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know, this is the new standard.

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What is he? What is he talking
about? Well, I don't know.

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were they were just showing a
clip and talking over it. So I

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don't know what he was talking
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something there was a big
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which I just MSNBC had the you
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depresses is breaking news that
they put on these TV stations,

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and in the case of MSNBC, they
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and Joe Biden ordering a
hamburger. And that was breaking

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news. Yeah, it was breaking news
on MSNBC. And they had a gaggle

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reporter on the spot. And then
they had a mic on him. And

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Barack Obama saying, like, get a
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Do you think the audience
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And no, no ketchup? And you have
good you have fries with that?

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And oh, we got these potato
tots. Oh, are they good? And

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often eat a hamburger. We after
hearing all this dialogue, I'm

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thinking, what are they wasting
our time for? What is wrong with

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these people at MSNBC? Breaking
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eats a hamburger?

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of times in these past few
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it, John. It's unfreaking.
watchable. It's just one dumb

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thing after another. It's so so
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Well, these, these cable guys
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the network's during the day,

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there's nothing really nice.
It's all drama that I'm totally

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not interested in. And then you
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looks like every channel is a
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some breaking news or a ticker
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Yes. So the big breaking news
was, of course, Elizabeth

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Edwards going on Oprah. And
essentially, you know, get

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yourself giving her a sob story
about her. You know, narrative.

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running for president they
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couple of interesting facts.
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staff and including some people
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running for president. Everybody
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know, and the likelihood, I
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President of the United States.
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like, unbelievably, it'd be
unbelievable disaster for the

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Democrat Party. Because I mean,
it was already borderline and he

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already apparently, you know, I
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president against Bush. I mean,
he's probably a philandering

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guy, then he was just, you know,
one of those guys, but you know,

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he was, he always seemed like a
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haircut, and he would pick

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parently spend a fortune on on
it, and he'd always and there

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are a lot of clips on YouTube
where he gets all bent out of

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shape, where he's looking in the
mirror. And he's, you're mad at

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makeup artists, you know, and
he's primping himself. And to be

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honest,

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he's a member of the elite. This
is exactly what these people are

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all about. They don't care show
business for Ugly people. How

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many times I have to say it.

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Well, it's pretty Yeah. What's
your favorite quotes? A good

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quote, by the way,

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but it's absolutely I used to
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would crack up. He's like, man,
you're horrible. You dropped out

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of school. You're making 10
times more money than I am. So

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yep, you chose show business for
Ugly people. Uncle Don. There

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you go. He did have a cool red
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Red phones are cool.

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And I picked it up once. Yeah,
yeah. Like I was a kid. You

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know, I picked it up was like,
White House operator. How can I

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help you Mr. Greg? Like, click
on a hung up. Yeah, like, like,

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like that was the right thing to
do. 15 phones start ringing

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buzzer start going. Old days.
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busy here in San Francisco at
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lot of time to prep but a couple
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keep lingering and the the the
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weirder by the day. I don't know
if you caught that. The white

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I'm sure you did the White House
says they will not be releasing

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the pictures of the $300,000
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Well, it's a matter of national
security. Of course. Here's what

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I think was going on, John, I
think that this plane was

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probably filled with friends and
family groupies, Democratic

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Party leaders, you know, it was
a joy ride. And sure it was a

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photo op. It was a photo op for
all the people on the plane.

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Hey, man, come on. We'll go
we'll go bus New York noon, come

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on last week. Now someone was
on. It could have been Biden, I

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can just see Biden's sitting on
the plane with you know, it's a

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joy ride. And by the way, that's
okay. Because that's how

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business is done. And I'm
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that's a it's a tool. It's a
tool of our Commander in Chief,

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our CEO, our chief executive,
you know, a

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man who has a yacht and he puts
all his you know, clients on a

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yacht and they have

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no problem whatsoever. I think
that is absolutely okay. I think

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that's a, it's a it would be I
would be honored and privileged.

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If I were asked to fly on this
aircraft, it is a symbol of the

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United States blahdy blahdy,
blah. But then you can just see

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Joe Biden, the dawn, as you
could just see him with all

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these people like, Hey, watch
this. Go to the cockpit and say,

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Hey, boys, let's buzz man
Hatton.

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Can you loop around the Statue
of Liberty before? It's once

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you know, and that's what the f
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there for protection. It's got
to be something like that.

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Because if the public finds out,
because the public will not

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understand what we do
understand, you know, it's okay,

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this is a tool, that's fine. So,
but this is not transparency.

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That's the that's the same
relieves me the most, you know,

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it's like, Come on, man. It,
it's no big deal. Just say I am

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alright. You know, Barack Obama
was great at apologizing the

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first 14 days. I'm sorry, I
screwed up. I messed up. My

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administration messed up. My
guys didn't do a good job. You

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know, people appreciate that.
Why not now?

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Don't know. I think the
transparency thing is bogus.

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It's obvious. Meanwhile, one of
the things going on, it's kind

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of interesting to me, when I
caught this, and I have a clip

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here, which we'll play is the
Democrats. You know, it's

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interesting to watch. If you
remember, like four years ago,

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people saying, you know, the
Democrats are going to be a dead

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party. They can't do anything
right there. Boehner has, you

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know, the Republicans just beat
him in every way they can and

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the Republicans are on top of
the world. Now the thing is

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switched over to such an extreme
the other way so quickly, which

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by the way, the stock market can
do that kind of thing, too, by

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the way. So quickly that now
according to a couple of polls,

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only 20% of Americans will admit
to being Republicans, you know,

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most of the mainstream
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by the takeover the party by the
extreme nutcases. And then the

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people that are actual
conservatives, whether they're

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extreme nutcases or not call
themselves conservatives, they

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won't call themselves
Republicans. And so what do

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you have to? Do you have to what
do you have to call yourself a

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Republican?

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In the olden days, at least 40%
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a Democrat or a Republican, but
you only have a number show

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lowers almost nobody admitting
to it. And by the

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way, for people who are not
American citizens, and for many

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of you who are there are other
parties you can be affiliated

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with. It is not a two party
system, just so you know, Google

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it is that it's true. Save the
world. It's a one party system.

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Yeah. So John Skoll, my friend.
Welcome to the other side.

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I've always said that you got it
from me. Okay. So anyway, but I

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think that what did one of the
new stories is going around is

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the one based on this clip that
I have if you have it queued up,

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which is from the hardball show,
and I just caught it by accident

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is

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Chris Matthews. Yeah, I think I
might have seen this.

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Yeah, this is Chris Matthews
talking to this Republican from

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the sixth district of Indiana
and the people in the sixth

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district should be ashamed of
themselves for electing a guy

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that's stupid.

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We're gonna go all across the
country with these energy

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summits hear from the American
people and we're going to

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educate the American people on a
21st century Republican agenda

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for the environment. You want

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to educate the American people
about science and its relevance

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today. Do you believe in
evolution, sir?

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I do. I believe in evolution.

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I love it when people We'll
repeat the question, which is so

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obvious like, oh crap ship,
think think think think think

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think think that's probably what
miss him would miss California

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was thinking maybe

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I embrace the the view that God
created the heavens and the

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earth and the seas and all
that's in them. Right? Do you

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believe in evolution is the
means, Chris that he used to do

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that? I can't say but I do
believe well do you believe?

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Did you take biology in school?
Did you take science which is

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all based on evolutionary belief
and assumption? Do you believe

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another The reason I'm asking
this I'm not. Party was

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incredible on science, you've
got to accept science do you

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always wanted to play and
Inherit the Wind? But on the

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global warming issue? I know
that in the mainstream, you're

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hedging. This is why people
don't trust the mainstream

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media. Chris, there is a denial
of the growing skepticism in the

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scientific community about
global warming. Well,

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do you have a global history? Is
there a rising skepticism about

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evolution? Wait a minute, let me
get this straight. So is this

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guy saying that the earth is
warming up or not?

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I don't know what he's saying.
He seems to be just, you know,

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here's what there's a basic
tenant, I think at play here.

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There's a group of Republicans
that are brought in by you know,

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very conservative Christians
that have and you know, this is

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actually a minority of
Christians that believe that the

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earth was is only 6000 years
old. And they, but they're very

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noisy about it. And by the way,
one of these people is George

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Gilder a very famous technology.
Maven, who has a newsletter, and

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he's, you know, desperate tells
people what stocks to invest in,

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and by the way, who is adored by
John Doerr. But anyway, Gilder

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is a part of this, this was some
of the reasons this is

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happening, because Gilders
operation up in the Seattle

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area, I can't think of the name
of it right now. But he just

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pumps in millions into this. And
so this floats around this

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notion that there was only 6000
years old, and dinosaurs were

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here, you know, for a few
minutes, and I guess we lived

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with him and petted him and had
him as pets, and God knows what,

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but whatever the case is, a
bunch of Republicans, there's

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way too many Republicans in
office that are essentially

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ideologues and and I think that
the lot of these conservative

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Christians that believe in this,
and I still think it's a

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minority, I have taken over the
party. And so all Matthews is

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doing and it had to happen long
time ago in California, the

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Republican Party in California
has long since been taken over

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by guys who have a very their
ideological on a religious

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basis, very much like the
Taliban, they won't give in on

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any points. And they just
assumed they don't even want to

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run people that can win. They
want to run people that believe

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what they believe. And so they
can't beat anybody. And that's

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it. Now their whole party has
gone this way. In Texas, for

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sure. In California, for sure.
And obviously in Indiana with

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this bonehead. And so we're
gonna we're just the only reason

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Arnold Schwarzenegger even got
in is because they,

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he kind of was bone in Maria
Shriver know

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it because he snuck in during a
recall election. That's right,

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and they didn't have time to
organize against him after that

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they killed Shandra leaving.
Just keep saying it, keep doing

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this. But anyway, the point is,
is that the party, generally

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speaking, is becoming just a
religious party. So and I know,

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obviously, for the Republicans,
as they say, you know, they're

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scared to death of this because
they know they're never going to

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get elected again. Yeah, this is

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very interesting. Particularly
when you think of the of the

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concept that it's really a one
party system, perhaps the the

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real party, the party behind the
party has just deserted the

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Republican Party. You know what
I mean? And that's why you only

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have, you know, 20% leftover who
have a particular view, which

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they're welcome to have it
obviously, think is very

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interesting. You say they're
just like the Tali bomb because,

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yeah, it sounds to me just as
radical, you know, and, by the

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way, power to him.

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Hey, I ain't got nothing against
it. I just think if people want

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to, you know, if the Republican
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ever get a president and again,
or get the house in the Senate

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back, right now, they're hoping
upon hope that Obama screws up

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so badly. You know, by the way,
they had the same hope upon

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hope, and Clinton got in, and
Clinton just, you know, rode

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them to the ground for eight
years. And if it wasn't for

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Clinton's own personal foibles,
you know, they probably the

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Democrats probably would have
still been in there. And they

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obviously, were also running in
that case, like Al Gore didn't

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help. But the point is, is that
the Democrats could stay in

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forever. If, you know if the
Republicans are gonna go in this

442
00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:42,389
direction and become instead of
the Republican Party, a

443
00:24:42,389 --> 00:24:45,629
religious party, they are the
religious party. So if you vote

444
00:24:45,629 --> 00:24:48,779
for them, you're voting for like
a specific religion that isn't

445
00:24:48,779 --> 00:24:52,139
necessarily what you know,
everybody belongs to. I mean,

446
00:24:52,169 --> 00:24:56,039
not everybody has an evangelical
Christian type who believes that

447
00:24:56,039 --> 00:25:01,019
the earth is was created 6000
years ago. And by the way, we

448
00:25:01,019 --> 00:25:04,049
blog this all the time, and
there's a new, there's in Texas,

449
00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:08,279
there's a good blog post on how
the Texas Board of Education

450
00:25:08,309 --> 00:25:11,939
kind of voted in that, you know,
the Earth was, you know, maybe

451
00:25:11,939 --> 00:25:15,719
6000 years old, just and it's on
YouTube. It's hilarious.

452
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,510
But what does that mean? So
that's going to be taught in

453
00:25:18,510 --> 00:25:19,260
schools or,

454
00:25:19,410 --> 00:25:21,660
wow, that's what they want to
do. I mean, it's, I don't know,

455
00:25:21,660 --> 00:25:24,240
you gotta listen to this thing
yourself. And it's kind of they

456
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,390
were just doing some, they're
cutting something out of some of

457
00:25:27,390 --> 00:25:30,660
the papers. Some of the younger
while the board of education

458
00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:32,490
works with, they have apparently
a bunch of doctrines, and they

459
00:25:32,490 --> 00:25:35,250
have to change this and that
they were kind of getting trying

460
00:25:35,250 --> 00:25:38,970
to push evolution out. But the
point is, is that you have, you

461
00:25:38,970 --> 00:25:44,130
know, the, there's only certain
religions that actually believe

462
00:25:44,130 --> 00:25:49,320
this 6000 year thing. And it's
not the majority of people,

463
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,070
although, every time they do a
poll of the US public now, it

464
00:25:53,070 --> 00:25:55,890
turns out that almost half the
people in this country, don't

465
00:25:55,890 --> 00:25:59,430
believe in evolution anymore.
Because it's, you know, this,

466
00:25:59,430 --> 00:26:04,290
this drumbeat of non outstays
has never been proven, has been,

467
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:10,230
you know, essentially, it were
stupefying the public. These

468
00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:12,780
guys aren't helping things much.
But the problem is when you have

469
00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:15,450
a religious party, which is
essentially what's happening

470
00:26:15,450 --> 00:26:18,750
here, you know, the religious
people don't agree with each

471
00:26:18,750 --> 00:26:21,330
other. I mean, the Luther is
don't get along with a Methodist

472
00:26:21,330 --> 00:26:23,340
and the Baptist have their own
way of doing things. They don't

473
00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:26,430
even think you can drink wine,
even though that's in the Bible.

474
00:26:26,730 --> 00:26:30,450
And you know, so you get all
these kinds of little religious

475
00:26:30,450 --> 00:26:33,030
things going on within the
group. And that doesn't do

476
00:26:33,030 --> 00:26:35,760
anybody any good when we're all
we really want to do is balance

477
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,650
the budget and you know, and
keep out of trouble.

478
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:41,010
So this does kind of flow into
an interesting email that I

479
00:26:41,010 --> 00:26:44,100
received from one of our younger
producers from Gitmo nation

480
00:26:44,130 --> 00:26:47,940
east. James, who is can you turn
on your speakers, John?

481
00:26:48,569 --> 00:26:51,449
Oh, thank you. It's a little
early in the show to say, Yeah,

482
00:26:51,449 --> 00:26:51,509
I

483
00:26:51,509 --> 00:26:56,009
want people to have a drink
early. All right. James is 16

484
00:26:56,009 --> 00:27:00,659
years old. And he's from the UK.
And so this relates back to

485
00:27:00,689 --> 00:27:03,419
crazy shit our kids are being
taught in school I'll just read

486
00:27:03,419 --> 00:27:06,629
this verbatim because it's so
beautiful and I love the fact

487
00:27:06,629 --> 00:27:09,749
that we've got a younger
audience tuning in and and

488
00:27:09,749 --> 00:27:14,699
switching on Hey, Adam and John
today at school in my GCSE

489
00:27:14,699 --> 00:27:19,859
chemistry class let's you're a
high school equivalency. We were

490
00:27:19,859 --> 00:27:23,999
each handed a sheet and asked to
use the internet to research

491
00:27:23,999 --> 00:27:28,259
Monsanto to find out about
their, quote, better way to make

492
00:27:28,289 --> 00:27:32,129
a weed killer, and how they are
improving farming processes

493
00:27:32,129 --> 00:27:36,629
through chemicals. I was shocked
at this early indoctrination of

494
00:27:36,629 --> 00:27:40,469
today's youth by love this kid
by large corporations such as

495
00:27:40,469 --> 00:27:43,319
Monsanto. When I raised this
point to my friends, I was

496
00:27:43,319 --> 00:27:48,209
simply dismissed as a conspiracy
theorist. I've managed to poor

497
00:27:48,209 --> 00:27:52,739
kid I've met I know what you're
gonna go through soon. I managed

498
00:27:52,739 --> 00:27:55,079
to convert one of them to
listening to no agenda, and I

499
00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:58,469
hope more will follow suit
shortly. I just thought you and

500
00:27:58,469 --> 00:28:01,349
John might be interested in
Monsanto's penetration into the

501
00:28:01,349 --> 00:28:04,679
education system. Thanks and
keep up the excellent podcasting

502
00:28:04,679 --> 00:28:07,259
essential that is no agenda in
the morning.

503
00:28:07,950 --> 00:28:11,220
So yeah, well you know, it's
marketing I've been in Monsanto

504
00:28:11,250 --> 00:28:14,550
should be if I was in Monsanto's
marketing team, it would and I

505
00:28:14,550 --> 00:28:18,240
could get and I could actually
manage to do this. Yeah. I'd be

506
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:18,870
all over it.

507
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,330
In that just outrageous, though.

508
00:28:22,589 --> 00:28:25,349
Yeah. Yeah, of course. Well,
it's what's outrageous is the

509
00:28:25,349 --> 00:28:26,189
teacher. Yeah.

510
00:28:26,220 --> 00:28:28,680
Is it part of the syllabus,
though? That's what I want to

511
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,590
know. Are the teacher just say,
Oh, well, you know, this is they

512
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:35,430
must have been marketed. Yes,
probably some folder or some

513
00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:37,080
flyer in the teacher's lounge.

514
00:28:37,469 --> 00:28:41,459
Yeah. Are they out are they give
them a free goodie bag and you

515
00:28:41,459 --> 00:28:43,889
know, t shirt and some stuff.

516
00:28:45,329 --> 00:28:46,499
Some flatware?

517
00:28:48,809 --> 00:28:49,739
flatware.

518
00:28:50,609 --> 00:28:53,459
We really need to get our
flatware

519
00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:57,450
flat where we gotta get Yeah, we
do as a matter of fact. So I got

520
00:28:57,450 --> 00:29:03,990
a note from David Koch, who
donated the 1776 that we ah,

521
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:11,100
yes. Which was 1976. I'm sorry.
Yeah. The 1976. The 1970s You

522
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:14,940
said was a was a 200 year
anniversary. 1776 which it was

523
00:29:14,970 --> 00:29:17,130
that may have been not been the
right. I don't know his

524
00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:21,780
intention was the following. The
first meeting for 1976 is for

525
00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:25,500
Adam. It's the Year of the
original swine flu outbreak. Ah,

526
00:29:25,529 --> 00:29:29,459
of course. Now that I should
have known,

527
00:29:30,450 --> 00:29:34,410
you should have actually and but
the second one he said was for

528
00:29:34,410 --> 00:29:40,140
me, it turns out that 1976 was
the year or the general

529
00:29:40,140 --> 00:29:44,160
consensus is that Mandel bought
began working on his Mandelbrot

530
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,750
set of fractals. That kitties is
what we call a fractal.

531
00:29:53,789 --> 00:29:58,469
All right, so that's these
people who would decide these

532
00:29:58,469 --> 00:30:03,809
things. It's Unbeliev So let's
go over a couple guys. We should

533
00:30:03,809 --> 00:30:06,179
mention this week while we're
here. I really want to do it

534
00:30:06,179 --> 00:30:08,309
this early. Okay, that's cool.
Well, at the end, we should

535
00:30:08,309 --> 00:30:10,859
probably remind people that they
should we, you know, the

536
00:30:10,859 --> 00:30:13,199
donations kind of fell off last
week because we didn't hound

537
00:30:13,199 --> 00:30:15,569
them enough. And so we probably
have to do it twice. And

538
00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:18,660
we have to explain that you
know, there's a reason behind

539
00:30:18,660 --> 00:30:22,380
all this for instance, you know,
we spent an exorbitant amount of

540
00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:26,970
money last night to review the
Four Seasons restaurant

541
00:30:27,329 --> 00:30:31,469
right and that costs money it
does cost money like to make

542
00:30:31,469 --> 00:30:34,649
this you know, some something
that actually pays you know, for

543
00:30:34,649 --> 00:30:37,529
itself and we need donations to
do that and we're not going to

544
00:30:37,529 --> 00:30:42,389
do advertising No. Okay, so
Chris Clark and John Matthews

545
00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:50,249
both that gave us $50 last week
and John Cosme Kazi mono and

546
00:30:50,249 --> 00:30:56,159
Lawrence is it poker folk? And
I'm gonna have to look it up I

547
00:30:56,159 --> 00:30:56,819
may have to read

548
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,580
what is written on a piece of
paper or something. I

549
00:30:59,579 --> 00:31:03,479
wrote it down yet but I my P
looks like it could be an AW or

550
00:31:03,479 --> 00:31:06,719
an F. So it could be it's
Lauren's the rock

551
00:31:06,750 --> 00:31:09,480
pulk or folk, my pee smells of
asparagus.

552
00:31:10,349 --> 00:31:14,219
And he gave us 100 bucks, which
I appreciate and Villanelle I

553
00:31:14,219 --> 00:31:16,139
guess I mentioned his name in
there lifted my

554
00:31:16,139 --> 00:31:20,879
mispronunciations. We got the
1776 guy. We got to 1701 I don't

555
00:31:20,879 --> 00:31:22,979
know what that means. Any ideas?

556
00:31:23,069 --> 00:31:24,899
1701

557
00:31:25,650 --> 00:31:32,340
Some guy Dave, Robert sent us
$6.24 About five times in a row.

558
00:31:33,870 --> 00:31:38,040
What do you think that is? 624
Is there anything? 624? Is that

559
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,340
some?

560
00:31:39,539 --> 00:31:44,879
It's maybe a drug reference now?
No. No, not that I can think of.

561
00:31:45,539 --> 00:31:47,789
And then somebody who obviously
didn't want to get their name

562
00:31:47,789 --> 00:31:50,519
mentioned because they wouldn't
give the 50 didn't get to the

563
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,669
$50 level they but they gave
4871

564
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,020
And now we are all these pre pay
pals big.

565
00:31:58,529 --> 00:32:02,459
Yeah, these are all pre Pay Pal.
thing was just how much was it

566
00:32:02,489 --> 00:32:07,979
for what 4871? Any ideas?

567
00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:11,669
No. I mean, I'm still catching
up to the 2112 which I got about

568
00:32:11,699 --> 00:32:15,209
100 emails from that that was
you know, that's a famous rush

569
00:32:15,209 --> 00:32:18,389
song. I believe that's what it
is to probably the rush fans

570
00:32:18,389 --> 00:32:21,779
have always been so incredibly
dedicated and vigorous

571
00:32:21,779 --> 00:32:25,049
throughout the years, right even
on MTV and because MTV never

572
00:32:25,049 --> 00:32:28,859
played rush never played rush.
If there was two things because

573
00:32:28,859 --> 00:32:33,359
they hated Canada. There was two
things people hated about MTV.

574
00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:35,789
We didn't play a rush and we
didn't play New Kids on the

575
00:32:35,789 --> 00:32:40,619
Block. And the New Kids on the
Block it was always number one

576
00:32:40,619 --> 00:32:46,889
on dial MTV, which was the the
predecessor to TRL it was always

577
00:32:46,889 --> 00:32:49,049
number one because of course the
New Kids on the Block were

578
00:32:49,049 --> 00:32:52,169
absolutely the shit. Certainly
with Marky Mark, you know, they

579
00:32:52,169 --> 00:32:54,509
were cute bunch of kids. And
then we're doing that little,

580
00:32:55,019 --> 00:32:57,059
little thing and MTV refused to
play it.

581
00:32:59,490 --> 00:33:02,520
Well, I guess you know, they had
their reasons. They thought it

582
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,920
was LAME. Well, wasn't it?

583
00:33:06,750 --> 00:33:08,820
Yeah, but I like giving the
people what they want.

584
00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:15,630
So the apparently the World
Health Organization when the

585
00:33:15,630 --> 00:33:17,580
swine flu thing broke out,
there's you know, they made the

586
00:33:17,610 --> 00:33:22,050
the comment that the all of
humanity is at risk.

587
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:26,489
Yeah, this is getting weirder.
Because now of course, in the

588
00:33:26,489 --> 00:33:29,789
United States, it's been
categorized as seasonal flu. And

589
00:33:29,789 --> 00:33:32,609
that they're not only do they
say the world population is at

590
00:33:32,609 --> 00:33:36,269
risk, but they raise their their
level to five, which means

591
00:33:36,419 --> 00:33:39,299
pandemic is imminent. And the
next level apparently the

592
00:33:39,299 --> 00:33:46,109
highest is six, which means
hello, you're all effed. And now

593
00:33:46,109 --> 00:33:51,359
I'm hearing well, you know, the
one that's coming in August,

594
00:33:51,389 --> 00:33:53,459
that's gonna be the one that's
gonna kill you.

595
00:33:54,690 --> 00:33:56,220
Oh, I haven't heard this. What's
this about?

596
00:33:56,250 --> 00:33:59,220
Oh, jeez. Oh, no, now they're
saying they're certainly saying

597
00:33:59,220 --> 00:34:02,490
it in the United Kingdom because
I've heard this from friends and

598
00:34:02,490 --> 00:34:07,890
family. That not where we're
lucky in the UK only 5050 cases

599
00:34:07,890 --> 00:34:11,250
of swine flu and no one actually
in Wandsworth, which isn't too

600
00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:15,660
far from from where the
terrorist is. And it's okay, no

601
00:34:15,660 --> 00:34:18,240
one's dying. We're all gonna be
okay. But the one that's coming

602
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:21,750
this fall, the one that's coming
at the end of the year, that's

603
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:23,940
going to be the big one. That's
going to be the one that kills

604
00:34:23,940 --> 00:34:25,050
everybody, literally.

605
00:34:29,130 --> 00:34:30,030
You kidding me?

606
00:34:30,059 --> 00:34:32,939
No. So I think this, the whole
notion of the beta test is

607
00:34:32,939 --> 00:34:36,119
right. So what you're seeing now
is, here's what I predict. It's

608
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:39,179
pretty simple. Everything's in
high gear. First of all, George

609
00:34:39,179 --> 00:34:45,269
Bush was getting massive props
on that maybe maybe it was Chris

610
00:34:45,269 --> 00:34:47,609
Mack Chris Matthews. I don't
know he was getting massive

611
00:34:47,609 --> 00:34:52,499
props. Because he had stockpiled
bill a couple billion dollars

612
00:34:52,499 --> 00:34:57,389
worth of, of Tamiflu. So oh, all
hail the chief Good job. They're

613
00:34:57,419 --> 00:35:00,209
hooking your buddy Rumsfeld up
before you ever leave. Is the

614
00:35:00,209 --> 00:35:04,049
frickin virus that Tamiflu
stops. So what's going to happen

615
00:35:04,049 --> 00:35:07,319
now is obvious everyone's going
to have to be vaccinated

616
00:35:07,319 --> 00:35:10,409
vaccinated before the big one,
which is going to hit in autumn.

617
00:35:10,649 --> 00:35:14,369
And this is going to be I think
one of the biggest debates we'll

618
00:35:14,369 --> 00:35:18,239
see this year will be vaccinate
or not.

619
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,920
Will you know it seems to me
they have their normal seasonal

620
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,480
flu vaccine, which comes out in

621
00:35:24,509 --> 00:35:28,379
October. Yeah, but we need a
neuron we need we need stocks to

622
00:35:28,379 --> 00:35:29,279
go to China.

623
00:35:29,279 --> 00:35:32,459
What is that just as interim
flu? I mean, what are they

624
00:35:32,459 --> 00:35:35,429
trying to do sell the flu shot
twice a year? I mean, what's the

625
00:35:35,429 --> 00:35:39,509
point of this? Well, I think is
a marketing scheme. Yeah, it's a

626
00:35:39,509 --> 00:35:43,769
marketing. You're make twice as
much money. Sure.

627
00:35:45,780 --> 00:35:51,390
Did you see the rock rushes
stock skyrocket?

628
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:57,660
Yeah. How are we You should have
seen that coming. Hello.

629
00:35:57,689 --> 00:36:00,659
Well, we were reading the annual
reports almost a year ago where

630
00:36:00,659 --> 00:36:03,869
they literally said the imminent
will bird flu is what they were

631
00:36:03,869 --> 00:36:06,479
talking about the imminent bird
flu is is putting a billion

632
00:36:06,479 --> 00:36:09,719
dollars into our pipeline. We're
going to be rich next year by

633
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,249
now while stocks are low. It's
not like you're hiding anything.

634
00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:15,930
I know. But we didn't buy.

635
00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:21,930
Okay, yeah, exactly. We didn't
buy into it.

636
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,150
You know, that's the problem.

637
00:36:25,469 --> 00:36:28,799
So watch for that come to Gitmo
nation West. I'm sure the states

638
00:36:28,799 --> 00:36:32,459
will, will be that'll be the
next. The next story about the

639
00:36:32,459 --> 00:36:35,609
swine flu you watch. It'll be
Oh, well. And by the way, the

640
00:36:35,609 --> 00:36:43,499
CDC, I must have seen 15
Different spokespeople for the

641
00:36:43,499 --> 00:36:47,219
CDC, there. And it was almost
like they were testing which guy

642
00:36:47,219 --> 00:36:50,069
worked the best, you know, so we
had kind of like the doctor we

643
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:52,619
had, you know what, the big guy
in a white coat, he'd be the

644
00:36:52,619 --> 00:36:55,559
doctor, then you'd have the PR
guy. And then some woman who's

645
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:58,499
like decked out with fruit salad
of metals. I don't know what you

646
00:36:58,499 --> 00:37:01,379
get metals for when you're
working the CDC, but she had

647
00:37:01,379 --> 00:37:04,439
him. You know, it was like a
militaristic thing on stage.

648
00:37:05,460 --> 00:37:07,530
So that Yeah, I think that
wouldn't be Italian. So who's

649
00:37:07,530 --> 00:37:10,260
the best who's photogenic? And
they do a focus group afterwards

650
00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:13,530
and figure out who the spokesman
is going to be? Yep. Yeah. Well,

651
00:37:13,530 --> 00:37:15,630
you know, I reminded when I was
in Holland, not to bore people

652
00:37:15,630 --> 00:37:17,790
with more Holland stories. When
we go to these different

653
00:37:17,790 --> 00:37:21,510
restaurants and one case was
obvious. They were practicing

654
00:37:21,540 --> 00:37:24,180
everybody in the restaurant
waited on us because they wanted

655
00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:27,030
to practice some English with
the new employees. I guess. We

656
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:31,440
never had the same weight person
twice in a row. And it was like

657
00:37:31,470 --> 00:37:35,010
15 people one after another
coming up to help us never the

658
00:37:35,010 --> 00:37:38,310
same guy was always someone
different. You know, one of them

659
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:40,380
couldn't speak English at all,
which was hilarious,

660
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,090
but and was the food. Okay.

661
00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:45,990
We'll talk about I'm writing a
report on the food the food.

662
00:37:46,170 --> 00:37:49,890
Okay, good. We had a good meal
last night. We ate

663
00:37:49,890 --> 00:37:54,090
it. Seasons. Well, you know, I
was disappointed overall. Now

664
00:37:54,090 --> 00:37:56,760
seasons is the for the

665
00:37:57,300 --> 00:38:01,200
steak. It was probably because I
was drunk. That's why. Oh,

666
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:07,440
sorry. My mic is crapping up. We
had a lot to drink. Certainly

667
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,160
for for me, you know, Mr. Mr.
Williams. Last one shot.

668
00:38:11,399 --> 00:38:14,159
Yeah, that's true. Three people.
You know, here's a couple of

669
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:17,489
things you should note. Where's
my doggie bag? Oh, shit. Did you

670
00:38:17,489 --> 00:38:19,499
forget it? I know. I was never
good. I

671
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:23,160
saw I saw them with it. I saw
them packet. I bet you I

672
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,620
literally put it right next to
your chair. And you just want it

673
00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:26,070
without it.

674
00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:28,890
Well, anyway, to put it down on
the floor.

675
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,930
Clearly you forgot otherwise you
would have said Hey,

676
00:38:30,929 --> 00:38:32,879
where's my dog? You know, I
always ate that was testing and

677
00:38:32,879 --> 00:38:35,069
was gonna see because usually if
you got what doggie bag,

678
00:38:35,069 --> 00:38:37,229
especially when that was the
last people in the place where

679
00:38:37,229 --> 00:38:40,769
you're leaving. Somebody says
hey, yeah, hey, your bag.

680
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,790
Well, that's points off that
that's a fail actually, seasons

681
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:48,150
fails on that. You can't charge
that much money and then fail on

682
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:53,220
the doggy bag. Exactly. No, the
other one was the art. Let me

683
00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:56,220
just I'll probably gonna say it
before you do our server. You

684
00:38:56,220 --> 00:39:01,350
know, we ordered some some nice
alcohol and there was there she

685
00:39:01,350 --> 00:39:08,880
was not a sommelier. And that
her presentation skills were non

686
00:39:08,910 --> 00:39:09,570
zero.

687
00:39:10,739 --> 00:39:13,529
Yeah, well, suddenly somebody a
parent wasn't working at night

688
00:39:13,529 --> 00:39:16,259
anyway, but we got good wine.
The point is though, I know in

689
00:39:16,259 --> 00:39:18,779
the last bottle, I didn't see
that. I think they finish off

690
00:39:18,779 --> 00:39:21,209
the first bottle but that we had
two guys three of us there and

691
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:26,129
we had a second bottle and they
left wine in the bottle. I was

692
00:39:26,129 --> 00:39:29,279
keeping tabs on it because it
was like, you know, because they

693
00:39:29,279 --> 00:39:31,469
just because when she was
pouring her last round, she was

694
00:39:31,469 --> 00:39:34,049
pouring pouring pouring in that
she and she could have poured it

695
00:39:34,049 --> 00:39:36,809
out. You know and there was not
a bunch of goo in there or

696
00:39:36,809 --> 00:39:39,569
anything. But she didn't she
left it in there for some

697
00:39:39,569 --> 00:39:40,079
reason. And I

698
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,020
was like a glass not a glass
full.

699
00:39:43,590 --> 00:39:47,220
That was at least it was all it
was a good it would have been a

700
00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:50,700
good half a glass full and it
with a normal like a small eight

701
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:51,210
ounce glass.

702
00:39:51,930 --> 00:39:53,520
That should put that to your
lips boy. In

703
00:39:54,450 --> 00:39:58,530
fact, it wasn't that thirsty. So
I was waiting from the Doosan

704
00:39:58,530 --> 00:40:01,740
and that thing disappears. You
know So I guess somebody needed

705
00:40:01,740 --> 00:40:04,950
a shot of wine in the back. But
I thought that was an but the

706
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:07,800
service overall was good except
for the screw ups there. I

707
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,010
thought that the food was
actually very tasty. Generally

708
00:40:11,010 --> 00:40:15,540
speaking, there's a steak house
with a variety of versions of

709
00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:18,720
different steak. And it's
probably as good as any

710
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,300
Steakhouse, you know, except I
think there's a place in

711
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:26,580
Berkeley that has the best steak
in the Bay Area. And I thought

712
00:40:26,580 --> 00:40:29,460
the data place was a little I
thought the atmosphere was a

713
00:40:29,460 --> 00:40:33,720
little funky for four seasons. I
thought it wasn't as ritzy.

714
00:40:33,749 --> 00:40:35,669
Yeah, kind of like they didn't
know what they want to be if

715
00:40:35,669 --> 00:40:38,489
they want to be like Ian
schrager type place, or a

716
00:40:38,489 --> 00:40:42,269
classic four seasons vibe, which
I appreciate more honestly.

717
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:47,129
Yeah. And so you just seemingly,
you know, a Marriott kind of

718
00:40:47,129 --> 00:40:47,519
thing.

719
00:40:48,510 --> 00:40:53,790
Hold on a second. No. No, it was
better than a Marriott kind of

720
00:40:53,790 --> 00:40:55,230
thing. I know the Marriot.

721
00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:59,100
All right. So anyway, but the
point is, is that I was looking

722
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:01,620
at Yelp and the Yelpers they did
a lot of people liked it, but

723
00:41:01,620 --> 00:41:03,720
most people cited the good
service and the service was

724
00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:04,350
attentive.

725
00:41:04,530 --> 00:41:08,070
It was very we had Yeah, very,
very nice servers. She was She

726
00:41:08,070 --> 00:41:10,590
right? Extremely attached and
weird. You know, like, we all

727
00:41:10,590 --> 00:41:12,360
had to taste the champagne.
Like,

728
00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:14,670
I don't get that. I mean, what's
the point of that?

729
00:41:14,699 --> 00:41:17,999
I mean, but you don't even do
even taste champagne. The way

730
00:41:17,999 --> 00:41:21,239
you taste wine for No, no, you
just pour it you drink it right?

731
00:41:21,540 --> 00:41:25,920
Yeah. Especially when it's
served by the glass. You know,

732
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,780
they should be tasting it back
then. We

733
00:41:27,779 --> 00:41:30,659
didn't we didn't buy a bottle.
That wasn't our bottle. No, it

734
00:41:30,660 --> 00:41:32,220
was just three glasses.

735
00:41:32,849 --> 00:41:35,879
I thought I got a refill. Well,
if you got to refill

736
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,920
it, you check did they charge it
for a second glass? I don't

737
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,200
remember getting a refill. By
the time I was signing the

738
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,580
check. I was so flustered. I'm
like, Well, why

739
00:41:49,980 --> 00:41:52,920
like it yeah, I'm a lightweight
you know, I am.

740
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,320
Yeah, it's amusing. So anyway, I
overall, you know, I would I if

741
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,390
you're in if you're staying at
the hotel, you want to get a

742
00:42:00,390 --> 00:42:02,670
good steak. I think that's a
good place to go. That meets

743
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:07,770
quite tasty. The one you had the
Porterhouse was actually quite

744
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,520
delicious. And the rest of the
stuff was good. But there wasn't

745
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,570
anything. There was no fault
with the food. I just thought to

746
00:42:15,570 --> 00:42:18,420
the place itself lacked of good,
like the vibe.

747
00:42:20,429 --> 00:42:22,049
Also lacked customers.

748
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:24,810
Yeah, that's what I think it was
one of the reasons I think,

749
00:42:24,810 --> 00:42:29,280
well, maybe the place the place
wasn't cheap. But the same time.

750
00:42:29,490 --> 00:42:32,460
Yeah, they didn't have it wasn't
a jump in joint I would suspect

751
00:42:32,460 --> 00:42:34,710
that they're probably going to
have to redesign the thing

752
00:42:34,830 --> 00:42:38,040
completely. And I think maybe
it's days is a steak house are

753
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:38,730
numbered

754
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,690
was the was the wine. That is
what was expensive, because the

755
00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:44,220
bill was outrageous.

756
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,549
I don't know, I didn't see the
bill. That was one bottle of

757
00:42:47,549 --> 00:42:51,089
wine was $120. Okay, well, then
it makes sense. And the other

758
00:42:51,089 --> 00:42:52,289
ball was like 80. So it's

759
00:42:53,610 --> 00:43:00,180
alright, then it makes sense. So
what's still I would say value

760
00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:03,600
for money, but I was a value for
money, even without the wine.

761
00:43:03,810 --> 00:43:04,350
No.

762
00:43:06,090 --> 00:43:09,450
Yeah, no, I mean, we've we've
recommended places that are I

763
00:43:09,450 --> 00:43:15,090
mean, compare that to the you
know, sub $100 total bill at

764
00:43:15,090 --> 00:43:19,980
Limone. Place I mean, that's
value for the money lively

765
00:43:19,980 --> 00:43:25,290
atmosphere, terrific food. You
know, I would I would not

766
00:43:25,290 --> 00:43:28,140
recommend the kind of place that
we were supposed to not go to

767
00:43:28,140 --> 00:43:34,290
anymore. But you had your friend
in from Holland is very bright.

768
00:43:34,350 --> 00:43:39,990
She was just adorable. And so we
had to you wanted to show her

769
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:47,340
off? I did. So we probably could
have gone to someplace else. But

770
00:43:47,340 --> 00:43:48,900
anyway, whatever the case was it
so

771
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:52,020
she hated the champagne, but I
guess she was too too polite to

772
00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:55,980
say anything. She saw this she I
love the champagne. It was the

773
00:43:55,980 --> 00:43:57,060
best champagne I've ever

774
00:43:57,060 --> 00:44:00,900
had. Really it was on Rio. He
was really

775
00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:03,960
smooth and she said oh no, I
don't that's not doesn't taste

776
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,540
like shampoo. I guess she likes
kind of the biting taste.

777
00:44:06,570 --> 00:44:09,930
But she likes a chunkier style.
Actually, honoree Oh, generally

778
00:44:09,930 --> 00:44:14,070
speaking is used to be a chalky
style. No, no, very smooth. It

779
00:44:14,070 --> 00:44:14,520
was good.

780
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:17,730
I liked it. I'm not a champagne
drinker either.

781
00:44:19,469 --> 00:44:22,619
But she looks at the type when
you meet demanding Dom Perignon

782
00:44:22,619 --> 00:44:27,059
all the time. Yep, that's that's
how I roll Johnny Boy. Yeah,

783
00:44:27,059 --> 00:44:30,029
well, that'll wreck the bill up.
Anyway, so

784
00:44:31,350 --> 00:44:32,910
I got it. Got it. Tell you
another funny thing because, you

785
00:44:32,910 --> 00:44:35,670
know, we had a very interesting
conversation. In fact, I think

786
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:39,390
did the evening ended an
argument where you arguing about

787
00:44:39,390 --> 00:44:40,230
I was quite loud.

788
00:44:41,969 --> 00:44:44,219
upright, you didn't take a swing
at her.

789
00:44:46,949 --> 00:44:51,539
Don't mess with my country. I'm
very defensive about my country.

790
00:44:51,539 --> 00:44:54,809
And it's an end when people
don't and so he she. I think she

791
00:44:54,809 --> 00:44:58,049
even said this is how it
started. He said I don't

792
00:44:58,049 --> 00:45:02,609
understand America. If you elect
a black president, and

793
00:45:02,609 --> 00:45:06,479
everyone's like, yeah, we're no
longer racist. Oh, yeah. You be

794
00:45:06,479 --> 00:45:09,809
black president, but then you
vote against gay marriage.

795
00:45:11,309 --> 00:45:13,079
As as a connection. Yeah.

796
00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:16,530
And that that was like, you
know, it's almost like there was

797
00:45:16,530 --> 00:45:19,680
this huge switch in the middle
of my forehead that said, pull

798
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,680
here to watch explosion.

799
00:45:25,620 --> 00:45:26,760
Well, I mean, Alicia key

800
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,950
perception that she's
intelligent. That's the

801
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:32,580
perception outside our borders.
That's how it's perceived, we're

802
00:45:32,580 --> 00:45:36,060
seen as wacky. And by the way,
it's as if the entire country

803
00:45:36,060 --> 00:45:38,580
has voted against gay marriage,
which is not true.

804
00:45:39,210 --> 00:45:41,970
Right? I mean, Maine is legal in
Massachusetts.

805
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:47,670
I mean, there's plenty of places
online all the time. And but

806
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:48,750
again, this they don't get

807
00:45:48,750 --> 00:45:51,570
that either. They don't get the
states rights things

808
00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:55,650
that the federal government is
actually subservient to the

809
00:45:55,650 --> 00:45:57,660
states. We all forgotten,

810
00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:00,810
right? If they would get that
they would probably have a

811
00:46:00,810 --> 00:46:05,010
better shot at making the EU
work. Exactly. Because they

812
00:46:05,010 --> 00:46:08,400
don't the EU doesn't, you know,
they there's no acknowledgement

813
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,500
of individual countries rights.
I mean, they won't let

814
00:46:11,279 --> 00:46:14,519
in fact, the Lisbon Treaty will
remove the individual sovereign

815
00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:18,449
rights of each country, right?
What are you gonna say about the

816
00:46:18,449 --> 00:46:18,989
Swedes?

817
00:46:19,050 --> 00:46:22,530
Well, like the Swedes can't put
certain labels on their jellies

818
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,890
the indicating where they're
from? Because it you know, it'll

819
00:46:25,890 --> 00:46:29,310
build it will violate some
somehow insults the Germans or

820
00:46:29,310 --> 00:46:31,920
something like that. Because you
know, if I want to buy a jam

821
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,280
made in Sweden, because they
grow some berries up there that

822
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,160
I like, I can't they won't be
able to label it in such a way

823
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,220
that I'll know it's from Sweden
and not from God knows where

824
00:46:42,060 --> 00:46:46,560
that kind of thing you know,
it's ridiculous and that's and

825
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,740
they you know, the telling the
French how to make cheese. I

826
00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:51,840
mean, I'm sure you know, what's
going to the end result is

827
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,870
they're going to actually at
some point, the EU is going to

828
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:58,800
ban the manufacture of Roquefort
cheese, which is a very is a

829
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,780
slightly poisonous product.

830
00:47:01,409 --> 00:47:04,619
We I think we've talked about
this

831
00:47:04,650 --> 00:47:06,570
Yeah, rock for Diem, which is
the

832
00:47:07,170 --> 00:47:09,390
so what does this have some
poison in there or something?

833
00:47:09,420 --> 00:47:12,660
Yeah, it's, it's usually let's
do enough research. If you don't

834
00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:16,860
make this stuff exactly. Right.
You can cause it's like killing

835
00:47:16,860 --> 00:47:20,070
anybody. But it has a toxic
quality to it. I mean, it's,

836
00:47:20,550 --> 00:47:26,070
so we have to we have to get
into Gitmo nation where

837
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:30,150
something very interesting
happened this week with Michael

838
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:36,030
Savage radio talk show host in,
in the United States. And you

839
00:47:36,090 --> 00:47:38,700
sent me a link to the show,
which I didn't listen to. But I

840
00:47:38,700 --> 00:47:41,220
was listening to the BBC World
Service yesterday morning, and

841
00:47:41,220 --> 00:47:46,260
they had an entire item about
it. And an even an interview in

842
00:47:46,260 --> 00:47:52,350
soundbite with the Homeland
Security. Secretary Jack wacky

843
00:47:52,350 --> 00:47:52,740
Jackie,

844
00:47:52,739 --> 00:47:53,789
Jackie. Jackie.

845
00:47:54,510 --> 00:47:58,260
You want to lay into it? Yeah,
go? No. Why don't you uh, once

846
00:47:58,260 --> 00:47:59,640
you set it up. Oh, I thought you

847
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,740
had a clip. No, no, no, I

848
00:48:01,740 --> 00:48:05,160
wish I were that prepared, John.
That would mean I had an agenda.

849
00:48:05,909 --> 00:48:09,689
So anyway, so what happened was
wacky Jackie put out a list of

850
00:48:09,689 --> 00:48:12,239
16 people that are going to be
banned from the UK because they

851
00:48:12,269 --> 00:48:14,009
simply don't like them.

852
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,470
Now remember, the last time
someone was banned from the UK

853
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:20,430
was feared builders, the Dutch
politician who made the anti

854
00:48:20,430 --> 00:48:24,270
Islamic movie and before that it
was Martha Stewart who was not

855
00:48:24,270 --> 00:48:27,390
allowed into the United Kingdom
because she was a convicted

856
00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:28,050
felon.

857
00:48:30,090 --> 00:48:34,920
So there they named Michael
Savage with in a list of

858
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,240
essential Nazis, Islamic
murderers, a whole bunch of

859
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:42,870
really horrible creepy people
and in Him, because they they've

860
00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:47,670
thought his talk show like the
UK cares, was filled with hate

861
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:49,290
speech or something like that is
not

862
00:48:49,290 --> 00:48:52,950
compatible with the culture and
the laws of the United Kingdom.

863
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:55,289
Right. And so

864
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,730
no one's ever heard of this guy
in the United Kingdom ever. And

865
00:48:59,730 --> 00:49:03,240
why would he? Was he planning a
trip that he filed for a visa?

866
00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:06,900
Oh, they just put him on a
frickin list for no reason.

867
00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:07,710
Somebody

868
00:49:07,710 --> 00:49:09,930
put him on the list. And this is
what everybody wants to know

869
00:49:09,930 --> 00:49:10,800
why,

870
00:49:10,830 --> 00:49:13,980
what the hell that Hello, John.
I gotta blow my nose. Talk to

871
00:49:13,980 --> 00:49:14,700
the audience.

872
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,400
So anyway, the question is, why
would they put this guy on the

873
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,220
list? Who put him on the list?
Because she doesn't know who he

874
00:49:20,220 --> 00:49:23,490
is? She just, you know, had some
students do it, I think is

875
00:49:23,490 --> 00:49:26,940
because it's either, you know,
the big beef that he's gotten

876
00:49:26,940 --> 00:49:33,210
into, was with the that CIA or
the Council of Islamic or

877
00:49:33,210 --> 00:49:36,480
American Islamic Relations,
which is a front organization

878
00:49:36,810 --> 00:49:41,730
for god knows what, but they're
pretty much you know, a lot of

879
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,030
there's just it's a sketchy
group. And but they're, you

880
00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:50,520
know, they managed to was this
car the Council of American

881
00:49:50,550 --> 00:49:54,210
Islamic Relations. And they you
know, they hate a bunch of

882
00:49:54,210 --> 00:49:57,060
people they hate Michael Savage
because he's always harping on

883
00:49:57,090 --> 00:49:59,100
you know, Islamist

884
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,310
they So you're telling me just
telling me this is why he was

885
00:50:02,310 --> 00:50:05,490
banned because of his anti
Islamic attitude? I think so.

886
00:50:06,990 --> 00:50:12,570
This makes no sense. And exactly
what everyone's against. I'm

887
00:50:12,570 --> 00:50:12,810
just

888
00:50:12,810 --> 00:50:16,050
telling you what I think. And
they you know, this care group

889
00:50:16,050 --> 00:50:18,600
is against you know, they've
they've tried to submarine

890
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:24,270
Daniel Pipes who is a editorial
writer, but quite talented who

891
00:50:24,930 --> 00:50:29,760
has a ongoing feud with this
group. And I think that they

892
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,030
have their fingers in a lot of
pies and I think obviously

893
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:36,060
somewhere in the British Foreign
Office there is somebody you

894
00:50:36,060 --> 00:50:38,640
know that's that had you know
there's let's get rid of this

895
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,420
guy let's give him the because
Savage in the care had a lawsuit

896
00:50:42,420 --> 00:50:46,170
that was going back and forth
over some misuse of his

897
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,340
material. And and savage ended
up winning the lawsuit, even

898
00:50:50,340 --> 00:50:54,510
though it was costly to him
against care. And I think this

899
00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:56,790
is payback. I think care you
know, said okay, you think

900
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:59,700
you're hotshot let me show you
something that'll crack you up.

901
00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:03,510
And so they somehow they got
somebody in England, obviously,

902
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:06,360
I mean, it'd be pretty big
organization well funded. And

903
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,210
there's probably obviously
somebody in the hole in the in

904
00:51:09,210 --> 00:51:13,800
the British Foreign Office, who
just watched waltz the name over

905
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,760
to wacky Jackie, who was an
obvious moron. And here, this

906
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,810
guy's got to be on this list.
And, and boom, she puts him on,

907
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,410
and these guys are laughing
haha, this is hilarious. Look

908
00:51:25,410 --> 00:51:28,890
what we did. And meanwhile, now,
of course, you know, the English

909
00:51:29,010 --> 00:51:31,770
are starting to listen to this
guy, because he never did

910
00:51:31,770 --> 00:51:34,770
before. There's a poll that was
just taken by the Daily Mail. I

911
00:51:34,770 --> 00:51:37,470
think he said that, you know,
only 2020. They said, What

912
00:51:37,470 --> 00:51:39,960
should this guy be banned from
England? And 80% of the readers

913
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,920
said, No, he shouldn't? What
would why? Who cares? And so now

914
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,520
I think an investigation is in
order as to why this guy got on

915
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,470
the list. We'll get it one way
versus

916
00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:52,200
But will I even be able to
return to the United Kingdom?

917
00:51:52,230 --> 00:51:56,610
Will I be able to return to the
United States? I mean, this puts

918
00:51:56,610 --> 00:51:58,080
everybody in jeopardy.

919
00:51:58,590 --> 00:52:00,600
Yeah, does this is

920
00:52:00,929 --> 00:52:06,749
and can this guy not be seen as
a part of free press as No, just

921
00:52:06,749 --> 00:52:08,279
a little thing you might want to
mention,

922
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,119
as far as everybody's concerned,
everybody except that of course,

923
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:14,159
he harps on this, you know,
everybody's interviewed him and

924
00:52:14,159 --> 00:52:17,219
talked about this on most of the
networks. And the curious thing

925
00:52:17,219 --> 00:52:20,819
about it, which he brought up on
one of his shows recently is

926
00:52:20,819 --> 00:52:22,829
shows by the way, just now
interviews with other people

927
00:52:22,829 --> 00:52:29,099
supporting him so it's really
boring. But is the fact that Fox

928
00:52:29,099 --> 00:52:33,989
News will not cover the story.
Really. Yeah, Fox News is a bit

929
00:52:33,989 --> 00:52:36,869
conservative, you know, fair and
balanced, blah, blah, blah. They

930
00:52:36,869 --> 00:52:38,729
won't cover it and if we're in
the curious and I don't know

931
00:52:38,729 --> 00:52:43,199
what why. But obviously somebody
at Fox has got the same kind of

932
00:52:43,439 --> 00:52:47,699
hard on for this guy. And they
refuse to even touch it with a

933
00:52:47,699 --> 00:52:50,069
10 foot pole they won't let
anybody talk about It's just

934
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:51,509
strange so very

935
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:54,300
interesting though. When you
when you think about who has

936
00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:56,820
been banned from the United
Kingdom so you have and I'm not

937
00:52:56,820 --> 00:52:59,730
against any religion or any
group of people for anything.

938
00:52:59,820 --> 00:53:02,730
Except morons. I think we should
kill all morons.

939
00:53:04,830 --> 00:53:08,220
But speech you have a hatred
against morons.

940
00:53:08,310 --> 00:53:12,270
So this is another thing that's
in the news is the hate speech.

941
00:53:13,350 --> 00:53:16,770
Regulations. Have you been
following any of that? Oh, yeah,

942
00:53:16,830 --> 00:53:19,530
yeah, so what is it that I
didn't quite catch it?

943
00:53:19,860 --> 00:53:23,790
Pedophilia pedophiles are
protected under the hate speech

944
00:53:23,790 --> 00:53:29,340
act but veterans weren't It was
weird.

945
00:53:29,700 --> 00:53:32,280
Yeah, they these things you know
start going into things like

946
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,870
hate speech which is nebulous at
best. It's becomes

947
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:40,740
but what is wrong with hate
speech? What is wrong with hate?

948
00:53:40,740 --> 00:53:41,430
Right. I

949
00:53:41,429 --> 00:53:43,049
think it's protected by the
concept. Yes,

950
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,570
it should in the United States.
It is protected by the

951
00:53:45,570 --> 00:53:46,470
Constitution.

952
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:48,570
Yeah, I would think I hate you.

953
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:52,290
Yeah. Define hate it was that
hate speech?

954
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,360
I don't know. I mean, I get a
lot of people that think I'm a

955
00:53:54,450 --> 00:53:57,120
crumb bomb for you know, you
know, saying negative things

956
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,520
about the Macintosh and you go
on a forum that'd be some guy

957
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,170
ranting and raving. That's hate
speech.

958
00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:02,099
We should sue him.

959
00:54:02,730 --> 00:54:05,040
Well, if you can get the hate
speech thing to work. Yeah, I

960
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,270
mean, it sounds reasonable.

961
00:54:06,389 --> 00:54:10,319
It's so messed up if this if all
this stuff passes.

962
00:54:11,909 --> 00:54:14,519
And even for one thing is a
definition issue. I mean, what

963
00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:15,059
is hate

964
00:54:15,090 --> 00:54:20,160
speech? How do you define hate
then I guess you can define love

965
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:22,169
as one Star Trek movie sucked.

966
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,630
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, you're
going to jail.

967
00:54:25,350 --> 00:54:27,600
I mean, you know, what is hate
speech. I mean, it's saying

968
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,110
something sucks or you dislike
something. I mean, I know what

969
00:54:31,110 --> 00:54:33,030
it's supposed to be. It's
supposed to be where somebody's

970
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:36,540
just had nothing but you know,
vile invective. But even that is

971
00:54:36,540 --> 00:54:36,810
totally

972
00:54:38,940 --> 00:54:43,020
fine that it's protected. Of
course, it's protected. You're

973
00:54:43,020 --> 00:54:48,150
not You're not allowed to commit
assault. And I don't know where

974
00:54:48,150 --> 00:54:52,200
verbal assault falls into that
category. Maybe. I don't know if

975
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,310
it even exists.

976
00:54:54,659 --> 00:54:59,249
I don't know I'm baffled myself.
So

977
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,630
For verbal abuse you can get
jailed for if you verbally abuse

978
00:55:03,630 --> 00:55:04,410
your spouse.

979
00:55:04,830 --> 00:55:10,410
Yeah. So anyway, so with well,
you might just hate. He's suing

980
00:55:10,410 --> 00:55:13,920
the British or Jackie Smith, in
particular for libel.

981
00:55:15,150 --> 00:55:17,310
Okay, yeah, he does,
particularly if you Souza in the

982
00:55:17,310 --> 00:55:17,940
UK.

983
00:55:18,510 --> 00:55:21,210
Yeah. And he's got lawyers in
the UK right now. Excellent.

984
00:55:21,630 --> 00:55:25,230
Excellent. So I think that would
be

985
00:55:25,739 --> 00:55:32,219
so you think the UK is nutty? In
Gitmo nation West here. Now,

986
00:55:32,219 --> 00:55:35,399
you've probably seen this if you
watch Fox i That's I saw Fox

987
00:55:35,429 --> 00:55:38,999
talking about it. And of course,
we'll put this in the show notes

988
00:55:38,999 --> 00:55:45,329
that no agenda mvno.com The
domestic extremism lexicon?

989
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,360
Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, we have
to post that. This is the thing

990
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,210
that everyday redacted that, by
the way, but it got onto the

991
00:55:54,210 --> 00:55:54,690
net.

992
00:55:55,620 --> 00:55:58,170
So but this is the unredacted
version, I think, right?

993
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:00,270
I don't know. I don't know for
sure.

994
00:56:00,510 --> 00:56:03,780
So it's from Department of
handle Homeland Security. And

995
00:56:03,780 --> 00:56:09,120
it's a definition list from
something called the U F, O U

996
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,820
Oh, what's that stand for?

997
00:56:12,030 --> 00:56:14,370
i There's a dere. It's mentioned
in there somewhere. I think

998
00:56:14,370 --> 00:56:15,900
maybe at the end of the
document, they tell you what

999
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:16,410
that means.

1000
00:56:17,850 --> 00:56:20,010
I'm gonna look at the end of it.
Oops, let me look at the end of

1001
00:56:20,010 --> 00:56:20,670
the document.

1002
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,370
And this is a great document.
People are gonna have to

1003
00:56:23,370 --> 00:56:28,560
download it, it'll be on the
website. I don't it's in their

1004
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:29,550
building because I saw it.

1005
00:56:30,180 --> 00:56:35,430
So anyway, it's it's essentially
it's a tool. It's a reference

1006
00:56:35,460 --> 00:56:38,970
aid is what you know, it's from
time to time to Department of

1007
00:56:38,970 --> 00:56:42,330
Homeland Security releases
these. It's like, it's like part

1008
00:56:42,330 --> 00:56:44,910
of the syllabus, you know, like,
like the educational system.

1009
00:56:44,910 --> 00:56:48,060
Okay, here's something. Here's
the New Encyclopedia Britannica.

1010
00:56:48,090 --> 00:56:53,790
This is the new official use
only. It's unclassified, though

1011
00:56:53,790 --> 00:56:58,650
official use only domestic
extremism lexicon. And maybe I

1012
00:56:58,650 --> 00:57:03,870
should just read the bit of the
intro so you so you get the gist

1013
00:57:03,870 --> 00:57:06,930
of it. Homeland Security
reference aides prepared by the

1014
00:57:06,930 --> 00:57:09,330
Department of Homeland Security
Office of intelligence and

1015
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:14,730
analysis. I've never heard of
that office, which is known as

1016
00:57:14,730 --> 00:57:18,120
ima provide baseline information
on a variety of homeland

1017
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,270
security issues. This product is
one in a series of reference

1018
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:24,180
aides designed to provide
operational and intelligence

1019
00:57:24,180 --> 00:57:27,180
advice and assistance to other
elements of the Department of

1020
00:57:27,180 --> 00:57:30,600
Homeland Security as well as
state local and regional fusion

1021
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:35,220
centers. My friend, John, what's
a fusion center?

1022
00:57:36,659 --> 00:57:37,469
I have no idea.

1023
00:57:38,190 --> 00:57:41,730
DHS and IA intends this
background information to assist

1024
00:57:41,730 --> 00:57:44,970
federal, state, local and tribal
homeland security and law

1025
00:57:44,970 --> 00:57:48,360
enforcement officials in
conducting analytic activities.

1026
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:51,840
This is frightening. This
product provides definitions for

1027
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,620
key terms and phrases that often
appear in DHS analysis that

1028
00:57:55,620 --> 00:58:00,090
addresses the nature and scope
of the threat that domestic non

1029
00:58:00,090 --> 00:58:03,540
Islamic extremism poses to the
United States.

1030
00:58:05,969 --> 00:58:07,679
It sounds like some from the 60s

1031
00:58:07,769 --> 00:58:11,039
definitions were derived from a
variety of open source materials

1032
00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:14,609
and unclassified information,
then further developed during

1033
00:58:14,609 --> 00:58:18,569
facilitated workshops with DHS
intelligence analysis

1034
00:58:18,569 --> 00:58:23,339
knowledgeable about domestic non
Islamic extremism in the United

1035
00:58:23,339 --> 00:58:29,339
States. Okay, I fit in every
single one of these categories.

1036
00:58:29,339 --> 00:58:36,299
Yeah. Including the Black
Panthers. Black. So the second

1037
00:58:36,299 --> 00:58:39,569
one right at the top is the
alternative media, a term used

1038
00:58:39,569 --> 00:58:42,899
to describe various information
sources that provide a forum for

1039
00:58:42,899 --> 00:58:46,349
interpretations of events and
issues that differ radically

1040
00:58:46,349 --> 00:58:49,709
from those presented in mass
media products and outlets.

1041
00:58:50,310 --> 00:58:53,490
Can you be an extremist threat
to the United States, my friend,

1042
00:58:53,550 --> 00:58:54,540
extremists this

1043
00:58:54,540 --> 00:58:59,190
program is now officially in
extreme a non Islamic extremist

1044
00:58:59,190 --> 00:59:00,720
threat to the United States.

1045
00:59:00,750 --> 00:59:01,560
We're mainstream.

1046
00:59:02,639 --> 00:59:05,189
Ooh, I like that. We can fight
it on that, can't we?

1047
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,730
We are mainstream. We got we got
400,000 uniques a month. There's

1048
00:59:08,730 --> 00:59:12,270
more than most newspapers get.
We have a lot of normal normal

1049
00:59:12,270 --> 00:59:14,520
listeners. I mean, not
everybody. We don't have a cult

1050
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,430
we don't have much recept, our
knighthoods and the squire ships

1051
00:59:17,730 --> 00:59:20,400
and some of this crazy British
stuff that we're doing for our

1052
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,160
producers. But essentially,
we're mainstream. So let's get

1053
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,540
over that part. So that doesn't
count.

1054
00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:31,440
Okay. Denial of Service attack
is is listed here. That's just a

1055
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,570
reference. I thought it was
interesting. I picked that up.

1056
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:39,210
Green anarchism. hacktivism. I
like this the use of cyber

1057
00:59:39,210 --> 00:59:42,360
division. He uses cyber
technologies to achieve a

1058
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,080
political end or technology
enabled political or social

1059
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,980
activism. Well, that's the Obama
campaign right there. hacktivism

1060
00:59:49,980 --> 00:59:53,550
might include website
defacements denial of service

1061
00:59:53,550 --> 00:59:56,790
attacks, hacking into the
target's network to introduce

1062
00:59:56,790 --> 01:00:03,960
malicious software, malware or
information. left. I thought

1063
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,850
Jewish extremism was
interesting.

1064
01:00:06,359 --> 01:00:09,179
But what's that a movement on
that list?

1065
01:00:09,269 --> 01:00:13,289
No, no, I'm I don't know, I'm
not on this list, a movement?

1066
01:00:13,439 --> 01:00:14,249
Where Wait, which

1067
01:00:14,250 --> 01:00:16,680
one of these things you think
you are? Okay.

1068
01:00:18,179 --> 01:00:20,279
All right. Well, let me just let
me just go up to the top for a

1069
01:00:20,279 --> 01:00:27,689
second. Hold on. So we already
had above ground, a term used to

1070
01:00:27,689 --> 01:00:31,199
describe extremist groups or
individuals who operate overtly

1071
01:00:31,199 --> 01:00:34,109
and portray themselves as law
abiding. Yep, that would be

1072
01:00:35,999 --> 01:00:42,479
that's everybody. Yeah. Hey, you
abide to the law, you damn

1073
01:00:42,479 --> 01:00:47,609
extremist law. bidi is the
number one is the top is the top

1074
01:00:47,609 --> 01:00:51,209
list. Okay, so here's the list
everybody, and then we're gonna

1075
01:00:51,209 --> 01:00:55,679
categorize everybody. So it's
above ground alternative media.

1076
01:00:59,219 --> 01:01:03,329
Le anarchist extremism, I think
I fit into part of that a

1077
01:01:03,329 --> 01:01:05,639
movement of groups or
individuals who associate a

1078
01:01:05,639 --> 01:01:08,549
society devoid of government
structure or ownership of

1079
01:01:08,549 --> 01:01:11,039
individual property. Now, I
don't feel that way. But many

1080
01:01:11,039 --> 01:01:14,219
embrace some of the radical
philosophy for philosophical

1081
01:01:14,219 --> 01:01:18,149
components of anti capitalist
anti globalization, communist

1082
01:01:18,149 --> 01:01:19,859
socialist and other movements.

1083
01:01:20,670 --> 01:01:24,270
So if you're anti global, you're
an extremist. Yes, yes. So if

1084
01:01:24,270 --> 01:01:26,970
you're pro American and anti
global, you're an extremist.

1085
01:01:26,969 --> 01:01:29,549
Yeah. Well, you're a non Islamic
extremist.

1086
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,730
Yeah, let's I mean, but you're
okay. I just wanted to get that

1087
01:01:32,730 --> 01:01:34,860
straight for people out there to
know All right, so animal

1088
01:01:34,860 --> 01:01:39,600
rights, no anti abortion, no
anti immigration, no anti

1089
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:47,340
technology. No, Aryan prison
gang. We're not anymore. The

1090
01:01:47,340 --> 01:01:51,780
Black Bloc no black nationalism,
Black Power black separatism,

1091
01:01:51,780 --> 01:01:55,050
Christian identity, Cuban
independence, extremism,

1092
01:01:55,290 --> 01:01:58,380
decentralized terrorist
movement, denial of service

1093
01:01:58,380 --> 01:02:06,420
direct. What's direct action?
Environmental No, oh, wait a

1094
01:02:06,420 --> 01:02:08,400
minute. Let me just say if it
says you're against global

1095
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:14,340
warming, maybe you never know.
Now, ethnic based extremist

1096
01:02:14,340 --> 01:02:19,890
group green hacktivism. Now hate
Jewish leaderless resistance.

1097
01:02:20,340 --> 01:02:25,110
Left wing lone terrorist, an
individual motivated by

1098
01:02:25,110 --> 01:02:28,200
extremist ideology to commit
acts of criminal violence

1099
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,700
independent of any larger
terrorist organization, Mexican

1100
01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:34,500
separatism, that's an
interesting one.

1101
01:02:36,659 --> 01:02:37,769
Oh, really? Huh.

1102
01:02:38,639 --> 01:02:43,529
militia movement, Neo Nazis,
patriot movement, oh, a term

1103
01:02:43,529 --> 01:02:46,409
used by right wing extremists to
link their beliefs to those

1104
01:02:46,409 --> 01:02:50,249
commonly associated with the
American Revolution. The patriot

1105
01:02:50,249 --> 01:02:53,489
movement primarily comprises
violent anti government groups

1106
01:02:53,489 --> 01:02:58,199
such as militias and sovereign
citizens. And then the the only

1107
01:02:58,199 --> 01:03:03,359
one that has artwork with it is
the funniest priesthood. And

1108
01:03:03,359 --> 01:03:08,549
they have a Phineas Priesthood
symbol. So they show up, which

1109
01:03:08,549 --> 01:03:10,859
is a p with a line through the
middle. Yeah.

1110
01:03:12,089 --> 01:03:14,639
Like the code or something,
maybe the guy who did the report

1111
01:03:14,639 --> 01:03:15,539
is in that group.

1112
01:03:15,659 --> 01:03:18,419
It's kind of Yeah, that's weird.
It's kind of creepy. If

1113
01:03:18,420 --> 01:03:19,110
you think about it. It's

1114
01:03:19,110 --> 01:03:22,410
a Christian identity doctrine
derived from the biblical story

1115
01:03:22,410 --> 01:03:28,560
of Phineas, which at which
adherents interpret Jesus, which

1116
01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:32,820
adherents interpret as
justifying interracial killing

1117
01:03:33,570 --> 01:03:37,680
followers of this belief system
also have advocated martyrdom

1118
01:03:37,890 --> 01:03:41,160
and violence against
homosexuals, mixed race couples

1119
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:45,780
and abortion providers. But why
that why the logo is here? I

1120
01:03:45,780 --> 01:03:52,440
don't understand that's a little
odd. Yes. Right wing extremist

1121
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:55,110
extremism. And we probably fit
in that a movement of right wing

1122
01:03:55,110 --> 01:03:57,720
groups are individuals who can
be broadly divided into those

1123
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:04,890
who are primarily hate oriented.
And those who are mainly anti

1124
01:04:04,890 --> 01:04:08,250
government and reject federal
authority in favor of state or

1125
01:04:08,250 --> 01:04:09,180
local authority.

1126
01:04:09,209 --> 01:04:13,949
Wait a minute, that's almost 90%
of the Republicans. Yeah. Oh,

1127
01:04:13,979 --> 01:04:18,059
owe people who reject federal
authority and prefer state

1128
01:04:18,059 --> 01:04:20,999
authority are extremist
radicals. So

1129
01:04:21,030 --> 01:04:24,120
anti Islamic extremist get it?
Right, will you?

1130
01:04:24,750 --> 01:04:30,000
Geez, okay. That's our
government at work. Trying to

1131
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,170
criminalize everything,

1132
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:36,450
tax resistance movement. So all
you teabaggers groups or

1133
01:04:36,450 --> 01:04:40,140
individuals who vehemently
believe I love these words,

1134
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,800
vehemently, is it vehemently or
vehemently? No, it's vehemently

1135
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,820
vehemently, which is like
vigorous, I guess, vehemently

1136
01:04:47,820 --> 01:04:51,450
believe taxes violate their
constitutional rights among

1137
01:04:51,450 --> 01:04:56,010
their beliefs are that wages are
not income, that paying income

1138
01:04:56,010 --> 01:04:59,970
taxes is voluntary, and that the
16th Amendment to the US

1139
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,090
constitution which allowed
Congress to levy taxes on income

1140
01:05:03,090 --> 01:05:06,870
was not properly ratified. This
is the IRS got to write

1141
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:10,080
something in here. Members have
been known to advocate or engage

1142
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,230
in criminal activity and plot
acts of violence and terrorism

1143
01:05:13,230 --> 01:05:16,260
in an attempt to advance their
extremist goals. They often

1144
01:05:16,260 --> 01:05:19,560
target government entities such
as the Internal Revenue Service

1145
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,580
and the Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

1146
01:05:25,950 --> 01:05:29,220
was sent when did explosives get
added to the gonna ask you the

1147
01:05:29,220 --> 01:05:32,130
same question? That's amazing.
Then the new jackets.

1148
01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:37,500
So this Alcohol, Tobacco,
Firearms and Explosives that's

1149
01:05:37,500 --> 01:05:40,830
the new moniker. Yeah. Because
you studied that one by us.

1150
01:05:40,830 --> 01:05:41,190
Yeah, it

1151
01:05:41,190 --> 01:05:42,570
used to be the ATF.

1152
01:05:42,810 --> 01:05:45,120
Yeah. Now it's the ATF II

1153
01:05:45,810 --> 01:05:50,520
at feet. They knew they knew
well, maybe they just wanted a

1154
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:54,630
new wardrobe. That's some new
jackets. Let's change our name.

1155
01:05:55,950 --> 01:05:59,580
Violent anti war extremism. Oh,
you can't be anti war. Of

1156
01:05:59,580 --> 01:06:02,250
course, a movement of groups are
individuals who advocate or

1157
01:06:02,250 --> 01:06:05,370
engage in criminal activity and
plot acts of violence and

1158
01:06:05,370 --> 01:06:08,430
terrorism in an attempt to voice
their opposition to US

1159
01:06:08,430 --> 01:06:14,760
involvement in war related
activities. Jeez, Louise. Then

1160
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,280
we get a whole bunch of white
nationalism white power white

1161
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,100
separatism white supremacists
and that's it.

1162
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,000
How come they don't have any
Chinese Tong gangs in there?

1163
01:06:25,530 --> 01:06:30,090
Like there's a dummy there's
Chinese gangs and what was the

1164
01:06:30,090 --> 01:06:32,970
mafia? Is it listed?

1165
01:06:33,030 --> 01:06:37,230
No, of course not. That's Joe
Joe's buddies. Not gonna put

1166
01:06:37,230 --> 01:06:38,490
Joe's buddies on the list

1167
01:06:39,330 --> 01:06:45,150
well anyway it's just it's it's
abhorrent this document

1168
01:06:45,180 --> 01:06:50,850
lovely word that and I think it
describes it perfectly something

1169
01:06:50,850 --> 01:06:53,490
we could have come up with John
if you go to financial crisis

1170
01:06:53,490 --> 01:06:57,660
cards.com Boy boy what a Mr.
This was have you seen this?

1171
01:06:57,930 --> 01:07:00,900
Yeah. That would have been so
turn on your speakers.

1172
01:07:01,469 --> 01:07:05,489
That would do as low as they go.
I can barely hear you now.

1173
01:07:06,570 --> 01:07:08,070
One word headphones

1174
01:07:08,580 --> 01:07:09,330
yeah

1175
01:07:13,679 --> 01:07:19,229
yeah if you're an I actually
have a deck of the the Iraqi

1176
01:07:19,229 --> 01:07:19,829
plane Yeah, I

1177
01:07:19,830 --> 01:07:23,640
have a deck I couldn't resist
Did you get a lighter too? No, I

1178
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:24,750
never got the lighter I

1179
01:07:24,750 --> 01:07:27,390
have a lighter where Saddam is
on the lighter and when you

1180
01:07:27,390 --> 01:07:31,380
click the lighter that he lights
up like like the devil Oh,

1181
01:07:31,380 --> 01:07:33,810
that's pretty neat. Now should
they got out I have it somewhere

1182
01:07:33,810 --> 01:07:38,550
in my Yeah, post it. And I
wanted to mention since we've

1183
01:07:38,580 --> 01:07:43,680
been forgetting to do this, let
me pull this open. The no agenda

1184
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,730
forums had no agenda forums.com
Is that I'm trying to get

1185
01:07:47,730 --> 01:07:50,790
something going there. And I of
course highly appreciate it. And

1186
01:07:50,790 --> 01:07:54,990
they have some kind of what do
they have going they had a news

1187
01:07:54,990 --> 01:07:59,580
contest. Here we go. So I'll put
a link in the show notes to

1188
01:07:59,580 --> 01:08:02,670
encourage posting into Gitmo
nation news category like to

1189
01:08:02,670 --> 01:08:05,370
announce the first ever no
agenda forms get mo nation news

1190
01:08:05,370 --> 01:08:09,300
contest so go check that out at
no agenda forums.com

1191
01:08:09,719 --> 01:08:13,679
They're already haven't thanked
Baba for a long time. Yeah, we

1192
01:08:13,679 --> 01:08:19,109
haven't Katie Martin who posts
this on both the cage match dot

1193
01:08:19,109 --> 01:08:25,079
DeVore act.org And on the
dvorak.org/blog

1194
01:08:26,250 --> 01:08:30,390
and I wouldn't mind if one of
our producers out there from

1195
01:08:30,390 --> 01:08:33,870
time to time if you guys would
try some artwork for us because

1196
01:08:33,870 --> 01:08:38,250
that kind of started to slip
away as well. And you know we're

1197
01:08:38,250 --> 01:08:41,940
always looking for it we always
forget the show title. We always

1198
01:08:41,940 --> 01:08:44,220
wind up calling each other back
oh what we're going to call the

1199
01:08:44,220 --> 01:08:46,980
show and based upon that as well
we kind of search for artwork

1200
01:08:46,980 --> 01:08:50,370
but it's it's more fun when when
the audience comes up with the

1201
01:08:50,370 --> 01:08:53,370
artwork just like this come up
with a couple of jingles John

1202
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,340
nights and nights

1203
01:09:09,420 --> 01:09:18,150
we suck. We suck. Yeah. The
Knights have no agenda will be

1204
01:09:18,150 --> 01:09:20,820
on that next list that
government puts out. Oh yeah.

1205
01:09:20,910 --> 01:09:31,320
Just is they just who is it bae?
It's cute. It is cute. That's

1206
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,120
quite good. You should keep that
one. That's a keeper.

1207
01:09:33,180 --> 01:09:35,580
I'd like the Knights have no
agenda to um, keep well, we'll

1208
01:09:35,579 --> 01:09:38,519
play that again. When another
night arrives. We've only got

1209
01:09:38,519 --> 01:09:45,599
three we need to we need 10 And
we want to phase two. So I want

1210
01:09:45,599 --> 01:09:49,109
to remind people to go to
direct.org/an A or no agenda

1211
01:09:49,109 --> 01:09:55,529
library.com and donate this
week. Keep things going and

1212
01:09:55,559 --> 01:09:58,799
appreciate the $1,500 donations
or take out a subscription for

1213
01:09:58,799 --> 01:10:04,319
24 or $2 a month that's
dvorak.org/in a

1214
01:10:04,470 --> 01:10:08,910
or feel free to make some
artwork make us some jingles

1215
01:10:08,910 --> 01:10:12,780
promote us. And I have to say
we're trying to keep these shows

1216
01:10:12,780 --> 01:10:15,870
under 80 minutes and people like
oh, you're stupid. No one burns

1217
01:10:15,870 --> 01:10:19,350
shows to CDs is not true. I beg
to differ. Yeah, I

1218
01:10:19,350 --> 01:10:20,280
do it all the time. I

1219
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:25,200
do it too. I love it. I have one
of those transmitters. In fact,

1220
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:29,160
I have the official Nokia
charger a car charger slash

1221
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:33,660
transmitter, which you which you
plug in and then you can set the

1222
01:10:33,660 --> 01:10:35,970
frequency and then you have a
little transmitter now these

1223
01:10:35,970 --> 01:10:38,760
transmitters. I know what
Nokia's thinking. But could you

1224
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,580
please put Like a like some
serious wattage in that ship

1225
01:10:41,580 --> 01:10:46,440
because it never ever works.
There's always crackling static,

1226
01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:47,910
you know, it just doesn't work.

1227
01:10:47,970 --> 01:10:50,340
I think it has to come through
the antenna. So you have to you

1228
01:10:50,340 --> 01:10:53,790
have to get some gaffers tape
and glue the phone to the roof

1229
01:10:53,790 --> 01:10:58,050
of your car so it can hit the
antenna nearby. Another good

1230
01:10:58,050 --> 01:10:59,760
reason to have gaffers tape with
you

1231
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:06,870
or just hook us up with some
link love. Yeah, link to us.

1232
01:11:06,899 --> 01:11:10,259
Yeah, we can use a few more
listeners. Yeah, we can more

1233
01:11:10,259 --> 01:11:13,559
than merrier. And you know some
people have already bailed out

1234
01:11:13,559 --> 01:11:16,799
this ad shows too long or they
say we're begging for money too

1235
01:11:16,799 --> 01:11:19,589
much which is which is not true
because we only beg for a few

1236
01:11:19,589 --> 01:11:22,949
minutes out of you know ad and

1237
01:11:23,370 --> 01:11:25,950
if people would rather hear your
audible commercials I mean I'm

1238
01:11:25,950 --> 01:11:27,540
happy to go that route

1239
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,960
you know yeah audible into to
half a dozen other things go on

1240
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,650
and on. I would really like to
avoid that because I think

1241
01:11:34,650 --> 01:11:38,160
there's a flow to this show that
it could be I mean, it could be

1242
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,920
interrupted with a commercial
now and again, but I don't like

1243
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,670
the idea if we don't have to why
would we end public support for

1244
01:11:44,670 --> 01:11:48,120
a show like this or like you
know you see with PBS it's blood

1245
01:11:48,150 --> 01:11:51,450
its lifeblood you know it's a
it's a positive thing and it

1246
01:11:51,450 --> 01:11:54,600
makes people more involved in a
they listened with a with more

1247
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,700
intensity because their
producers

1248
01:11:56,730 --> 01:11:59,550
and look at the difference we're
making Look at this 16 year old

1249
01:11:59,700 --> 01:12:03,480
producer from from the UK you
know kids catching on he's not

1250
01:12:03,480 --> 01:12:05,880
taking the crap that's being
shoveled into his down his

1251
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,750
throat in school you know, and
this and he Okay, he turned one

1252
01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:12,870
person on to us that's one more
and it's not about not that we

1253
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:14,220
have any kind of agenda this

1254
01:12:14,220 --> 01:12:16,770
guy does. You never know this
guy could a one of our listeners

1255
01:12:16,770 --> 01:12:20,790
could end up on a jury while you
are on trial.

1256
01:12:20,820 --> 01:12:21,990
Thank you very much.

1257
01:12:22,260 --> 01:12:26,490
And they might save your ass.
Yeah, could be saved because you

1258
01:12:26,490 --> 01:12:29,520
know, you said something bad
about Monsanto or you. You're

1259
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:30,120
part of, you

1260
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,760
know, a very anti globalist
movement.

1261
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:36,210
You're an anti globalist, and
you're now you know, up for

1262
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:40,530
being found out as a felon and
they probably did make the anti

1263
01:12:40,530 --> 01:12:44,790
globalists sex offenders.
Somehow. I mean, that's the

1264
01:12:44,790 --> 01:12:46,380
latest. Oh, yeah, that's

1265
01:12:46,380 --> 01:12:49,020
the trend. There was an
excellent article in The New

1266
01:12:49,020 --> 01:12:52,020
York Times, John, that I just
wanted to ask our listeners to

1267
01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:55,500
go take a look at because, you
know, while our children are

1268
01:12:55,500 --> 01:13:01,470
being mis educated, we of course
are our daily are indoctrinated

1269
01:13:01,470 --> 01:13:05,880
daily. John Broder wrote his
article seeking to save the

1270
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:11,250
planet with with a thesaurus.
And I just read the first couple

1271
01:13:11,250 --> 01:13:13,530
of paragraphs the problem with
global warming some

1272
01:13:13,530 --> 01:13:18,030
environmentalist believes is,
quote, global warming. The term

1273
01:13:18,030 --> 01:13:20,700
turns people off. Now we've
talked about this because

1274
01:13:20,700 --> 01:13:23,280
remember, it went from global
warming to climate change.

1275
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,610
Listen to what's next. The term
turns people off fostering

1276
01:13:26,610 --> 01:13:31,260
images of shaggy haired liberals
economic sacrifice and complex

1277
01:13:31,260 --> 01:13:35,220
scientific disputes. According
to extensive polling and focus

1278
01:13:35,220 --> 01:13:39,180
group sessions conducted by eco
America, a nonprofit

1279
01:13:39,180 --> 01:13:42,660
environmental marketing and
messaging firm in Washington.

1280
01:13:42,690 --> 01:13:46,320
This this is how the ships being
sold to you. Oh, yeah, instead

1281
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,370
of grim warnings about global
warming the firm advises to talk

1282
01:13:50,370 --> 01:13:55,380
about our deteriorating
atmosphere, dropped discussions

1283
01:13:55,380 --> 01:13:59,520
of carbon dioxide and bring up
moving away from the dirty fuels

1284
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:04,470
of the past. Don't confuse
people with Cap and Trade use

1285
01:14:04,470 --> 01:14:11,070
terms like cap and cashback or
pollution reduction refund. I

1286
01:14:11,070 --> 01:14:12,960
got a hard on John, this is

1287
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,170
good stuff. This is good stuff
Pollution

1288
01:14:16,170 --> 01:14:21,030
Reduction refund this, this will
happen at the supermarket, where

1289
01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:24,180
you're used to getting cash
back, you will be capping

1290
01:14:24,210 --> 01:14:27,180
cashing back and on your
receipt, you will be

1291
01:14:27,330 --> 01:14:31,800
congratulated for money you gave
to the pollution reduction

1292
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:39,840
refund. Something right? When
you buy or when you buy your

1293
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:40,500
Monsanto

1294
01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:43,050
products and your loan, you have
to send me a link to this. This

1295
01:14:43,050 --> 01:14:45,930
is good stuff. Well, if you look
at the show notes, but this is

1296
01:14:45,930 --> 01:14:48,360
what's going on and this kind of
thing. And it's because you

1297
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,600
know, you know people when you
give your donation to

1298
01:14:51,630 --> 01:14:55,110
duart.org/and a you have to
realize that both Adam and I are

1299
01:14:55,110 --> 01:14:59,730
actually involved in the media
in such a way that we know how

1300
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,280
Some of these mechanisms work
because we work with public

1301
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:06,030
relations companies all the
time. And, and they and the kind

1302
01:15:06,030 --> 01:15:09,930
of skills they have and how they
do, you know, grassroots things

1303
01:15:09,930 --> 01:15:10,080
that are

1304
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:14,250
how they do it. And if you watch
madmen, the fantastic series on

1305
01:15:14,250 --> 01:15:17,820
TMC, which is about the
beginning and I was in

1306
01:15:17,820 --> 01:15:22,860
advertising for half of my life
on Madison Avenue at the at the

1307
01:15:22,860 --> 01:15:28,230
highest levels, you will see how
Madison Avenue sold, so they

1308
01:15:28,230 --> 01:15:31,590
sold cigarettes, which is
neither here nor there, but

1309
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:35,670
watch how they do it. It's the
script actually lays it out how

1310
01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:40,290
these huge governmental policies
were put in place by advertising

1311
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,480
agency agencies.

1312
01:15:42,750 --> 01:15:46,200
Yeah. Well, that actually the
the, the criminalization of

1313
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:50,670
marijuana was a public relations
oriented thing that is largely

1314
01:15:50,670 --> 01:15:53,430
done by the Hearst Corporation
and others. In fact, next on our

1315
01:15:53,430 --> 01:15:56,010
next show, I do want to talk
about the fact that

1316
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,950
Schwarzenegger says that maybe
the debate on legalizing

1317
01:15:59,370 --> 01:16:03,150
marijuana in California should
be opened up and I have a bunch

1318
01:16:03,150 --> 01:16:05,820
of interesting information about
that, that I think we'll discuss

1319
01:16:05,820 --> 01:16:06,450
on Sunday.

1320
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:12,720
So Sunday, I will, I will be
back at home base, which means I

1321
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,600
don't know if I'll have enough
time to get sound clips and do a

1322
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lot of show prep. But we'll
we'll be kind of back to the

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normal time. I think I arrived
around two or so. So I should be

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in time. I got to recuperate a
little bit. So maybe we'll do a

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little bit later on Sunday,
John? Sure. But not too late.

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And it'll just be good to be
back at our normal times.

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Yeah, and then we can stream.
Yeah.

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All right. So I'll I'm gonna go
to the office and I'll stream

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this from the office and then
I'll do the upload.

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And I have another interlude
coming out this week. So people

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who like to listen good,

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yeah, I have paid zero attention
to the stream. But I know people

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still listening to it. So that
is highly appreciated. Coming to

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you from an undisclosed crackpot
Command Center in San Francisco.

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I'm Adam curry.

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And from the budget kill bunker
in northern Silicon Valley. I'm

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John C. Dvorak.

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We will talk to you again on
Sunday right here on no agenda.